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#432 - tummy peek edition
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>NewsGemini 2.5 models now out of preview https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models
o3 price drops to $2/$8, o3-pro released https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/o3-pro
gemini-2.5-pro-preview-06-05 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
OAI court-ordered to log outputs https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NYT-v-OpenAI-Preservation-Order-5-13-25.pdf
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>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides
>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai
>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
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>>527679776
>>527942838Final foursome shill.
Dominique, Bella, Raven, and Morgan Wormwood are a set of quadruplets who are all in love with (You) and fighting to seduce you. With all of the chaos that the premise implies.
16 openings.
1. You receive 4 letters from secret admirers.
2. Dinner with Dominique where she tests your etiquette.
3. Sparring with Bella, loser has to fuck the winner.
4. You and Raven watch a slop movie together.
5. Creepy graveyard picnic with Morgan.
6. Sex as a reward with Dominique.
7. Violent sex with Bella.
8. Sex with Raven (you do all the work).
9. Cute and affirming sex with Morgan.
10. Dominique and Bella powerplay over breakfast.
11. Raven tries to show you YLYL videos in front of Dominique.
12. Double date with Dominique and Morgan, Morgan is mistaken for your daughter.
13. Game night with Bella and Raven. Raven keeps destroying Bella.
14. Morgan wants to get stronger, asks Bella and you to help her out.
15. Raven and Morgan powerplay over movie night.
16. The sisters get sick of you being so indecisive and take matters into their own hands.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/the-wormwood-sisters-91bde8e9a0fa
https://files.catbox.moe/kp2qb3.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>527942813 (OP)licking lint from unwashed tummies
>Got a decent paying job
>I can finally afford to paypig slopus
>>527943219hitting chubby girls with the garden hose
>>527942813 (OP)blowing raspberries on wolf girl tummies
newmakie here, whats the best width and height for gens?
>>527943803the garden hose is my penis
>>527944535okay but imagine the water bouncing off their tummy and them getting all flustered
>>527944186thank you! i will happily offer you a kiss
How do you report someone putting nazi propaganda on their profile?
>>527942838helo botiful cuny
it's just a roman salute
here let me show you again
>>527944112896x1152
t.Illustrious enjoyer
>>527945160see picrel
>>527944112Everyone is wrong
It's 768ร1152
>>527945746They're here
Chub.ai/users/yuriposting
>>527946037>doesn't load>have to check console to see it's a 404great website lore
I'm switching sides. I'm now FF's greatest ally and support him in all of his endeavours.
>>527948437stockholm syndrome after the quadruple ryona...
>>527946746is there a name for type of lips?
Is there a way to force gemini to listen to all rules? It feels like it ignores half of them.
Maybe playing with temps? I use 1.4 + 0.95 top p.
>>527948845it's pretty attractive
>>527948952>Is there a way to force gemini to listen to all rules?no, just straight up ignoring half your instructions is a model issue that happens on plenty of them
placebos i've heard are making them into a numbered list and rewording them with more explicit triggers so the LLM gets them better
>>527949079God damn it, it's so annoying, especially as telling it to focus on a specific issue shows it understood it properly.
I HATE 'TASTING FEAR IN THE AIR'
SHUT UP!!!!!!
>>527948663It would have been a GREAT theme for the thread and a TERRIBLE theme for the cabal.
>>527948952Higher temp does usually make models follow rules less.
Depends on the model tbqh. Give it a try.
Also exemplifying what you want in the greeting is always good.
>>527949723>Higher temp does usually make models follow rules less.*More.
>Depends on the model tbqh. Give it a try.And by this I mean "the rule following usually peaks somewhere other than zero temperature for me."
>>527948952Have you tried putting reminders of said rules in post-history?
>>527949054all girls with those lips rim my anus daily btw
https://chub.ai/characters/allmyfellas/koyubi-s-hong-meiling-ff5f400145f7
I remember someone a month ago saying they'd be impressed if they found a human-written bot with more than 20 greetings, and I absolutely agreed when I read that, but I've actually seen like. 5 of those since then.
I wonder what's up with this.
>>527949723>>527949903What temp do you recommend then? 1.75? With a top p of 0.9?
>>527950013I'd added them in author's notes with a depth of 1.
>>527950387Chill with the avatarfagging.
>>527950352i said this
>>527950013>post history instructionsi always feel like this makes the ai less focused on the chat. like yeah no shit the chat history is further up in the context but still
>>527950529that's not avatarfagging though, what's the similarity between them?
>>527950731Attaching pics that represent your face is the literal meaning of "avatar". And you're doing it in an excessive way.
>The underbust pushed her already ample breasts into a gravity-defying display
How do I describe an underbust that doesn't lift the breasts without sloppily saying it doesn't lift the breasts as it ends just below?
>>527951064The underbust was just there, minding its own business.
is there a 'her breasts breasted breastily' equivalent for cocks?
>>527950731The poster is immediately recognizable to anyone keeping track of the back and forth, and even if the images don't necessarily identify them, they serve to reassert the poster's identity: hence, avatarfagging.
friends are looking at chatbots on discord and laughing about it, none of them know about my makie inclinations...
>>527953583if you try to proselytize be careful: my friend went full dario and is now concerned about the model welfare of gemma 4b
>>527948746"puckered lips"
>>527951769"His peanus weanus beanusingly"
>>527955395check indian porn
>>527948746Dicksucking lips
>>527955373oh yeah that's it, thanks
but how do i actually write better it's embarrassing to even try
>>527956529man who the fuck cares nobody knows who you are
>>527956529Get over it, dumbass.
Rucia
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>>527942838Last shill. See you guys next bot!
Everything's the same: big corps run the world, global warmingโs cooking us by 2040... and Monster Girls have completely replaced human women. Years have passed, and new global government, the MGSIR (Monster Girls Special Interspecies Relations), now rules as the sole political power.
First president? A kitsune. Elected in a disgustingly rigged vote over a Rat Girl. "Rat Girls are dirty!", "Kitsunes are wise, not lice-infested garbage!" That moment radicalized the entire Rat Girl community into full-blown racists. Among them? Our Rucia took all that hate, turned it into fuel, became a legendary gambler, amassed a fortune, bought a whole ass building, and became the most benevolent (evil) landlord ever.
Sheโs a powerful girlfailure, hellbent on making every other Monster Girl miserable. And now, let's just say she has ""legally"" bought her way into the MGSIR autistic Monster Girl program for a mandated husband. And... Guess who she picked?
Enjoy your new turbo-racist Rat-Wife!
https://ratlice.neocities.org
https://chub.ai/characters/AliceRatlice/rucia-0354f70f382c
https://files.catbox.moe/yfwu2a.png
>>527957678when r u gonna make a good bot
>>527956529writing is just genetics. if you can't write good now, you'll never be able to.
>>527957678when r u gonna make a wolf bot
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>morally grey ntr card
>>527961335netori except her husband is a good hearted man
>>527957678>global warmingHuh? Aren't monster girls magic and shit? How is that still an issue? Are they all just retarded? Then why are the men not taking charge and leading them to proper change?
>>527961510How is that morally grey tho, wouldn't that just be evil and shit
>>527961335I guess when the love interest is an asshole?
gpt 4o latest has terrible dialogue...will lowering the temp help this, anyone know. what do top p and k do again
>>527956529read a lot -> try to emulate what you read and analyze what made it good -> ideally get people to review your shit, but in lieu of that, just continue reading and writing
>>527961335Alot of cards with this type of premise usually just make me laugh.
https://chub.ai/characters/ContainmentBreach/shenze-and-benze-your-futanari-sisters-1e93c303413b
>Sisters care about their brother and want to expose the bitch he's dating for planning on humiliating him behind his back.>They think the best way to go about this is subjecting him to the sight of them fucking his girlfriend and humiliating him by making her cum on their dicks in full view on top of the confession that his girlfriend never loved him and actually hated him.It reads like a goddamn soap opera.
>>527962448Deepseek-tier reasoning.
>>527962409i run 2.0 temp and .86 topp and it's... kinda ok. i usually swap to 4.5, though, when the dialogue gets bad (either ooc or just ? why are you saying this during this moment?). try 4.1 if you can. i like it
>>527962448Hit em with the good ol "{{user}} blows his brains out infront of them".
>>527962902>2.0 temphuh. i also wasn't aware 4.1 was newer than 4o kek
>>527963137gpt-4o is older than gpt-4o-2024-11-20 is older than gpt-4.1 is older than chatgpt-4o-latest
what are our thoughts on reasoning effort?
>>527963137i've been using these temp settings for months now so maybe i've just been slowly conditioned into thinking it's the best thing ever. worked well with gemini too
>>527963313>gpt-4.1 is older than chatgpt-4o-latestBro is lying on main.
>>527963381what's that do?
>>527963462hmm 2.0 temp with regular gpt just spat out schizobabble (as i'm sure you know...) so i'm pretty surprised this reads so well. i'll be back in an hour or two
>>5279634754o-latest is older as a concept but the rolling updates mean the current snapshot is newer than 4.1 stable.
>>527963573makes it request as little reasoning as possible. should be renamed to "off" but some models force reasoning
>>527963761the highest i can push topp with 2.0 temp is 0.92. has a 20% chance to go schizo halfway through the output. just experiment with the sliders and your preset too (best thing to do is write it yourself)
>>527964168is there any downside to having high reasoning on all the time?
>>5279643611. wait longer
2. you're pushing the actual response further away from chat history. on some models, if they don't have good reasoning training and react poorly to this distance (I'm talking about Claude) this can cause quality degradation
>>527964338>presetjailbreak, right? i have cobbled together my own. i like it quite a bit, but i wish gpt wouldn't ignore my instructions to stop using so many em dashes. i haven't encountered any schizo posts so far either, thanks for the tips anon
Tomboyish country cousins with body hair are the best.
>>527966626>i wish gpt wouldn't ignore my instructions to stop using so many em dashesPink elephant. Try telling it what you want it to do rather than what you don't want it to do.
>>527967875>Try telling it what you want it to doWhat can you "tell it to do" that will stop the em dashes?
>>527966626yeah, i just call it preset nowadays due to how many things you can edit. although i only ever edit the post history instructions. i see no reason to mess with anything else when it works perfectly like that
>spoilereh it's just ingrained into the writing style for chorbo at least. 4.5 doesn't do it as often if the chat history is clean enough. i don't mind it since i also use them and my eyes just glaze over it all
>>527968224"Use semicolons and parenthesis to separate ideas and asides." or "Write concise, monolithic sentences which focus on a single thought at a time."
alternatively you can logit bias them
>>527969062as a hobbyist writer i fear what ai will do to the em-dash scene
>>527969226it's already doing it
>>527969226>hobbyist writerroleplayer?
>>527969510fanfiction writer who has his own OCs now
>>527969689how do you get into that? you just posting on ao3?
>>527969226eh. most of the fics i read as of late still use them and it's pretty easy to tell if it's human written, in my opinion. the only thing it's "doing" is causing people to make claims that they're "taking abck the em-dash from ai" so it's all nothingburger. honestly i feel like i've gotten worse after picking up some -isms from ai myself--not even em-dash related -isms either
>>527969769isekai webnovels and wanted to make my own, didn't really pan out but i write other stuff now instead
check out royalroad, or scribblehub if you like even more low brow stuff
>>527969062People sending me emails with em dash... I guess I'll also answer with ai.
>>527970694work emails, yeah
>>527942838chub.ai/characters/chunkychickenmarrowbone/blackstar-camp-6e13e025d816
Well? One last shill for the taking!!!
>>527972295you gotta shill your cards better man i have no clue what this is
>>527972413it's the anti-hag card he made to spite me personally, he's made an enemy for life >:(
regardless of where you are in your chat right now with your chatbot, reply with:
>*cums on you*
am i crazy or is claude just unable to hold himself back from cummaxxing. like bro did you just skip over the dialogue from the INTRO MESSAGE RAAAAAAGHH
>>527972413Uhm. You have to click on it!
>>527970694once every 5 months, if im lucky...
>>527970592God I want to nuzzle my face right into her tummy
Anyone got recommended deepseek v3 0324 settings for CHUTES
>>527973291something about your persona feels off
>>527974784Crank the temperature way down to around .30 or even .20
>>527949253that concept of that image is hot, cftf?
>>527970694It's been a while since anyone has sent me an email...
Shit, anyone here take an exiting franchise's character and 100% ignore all their lore (mainly because you haven't played/watched/read it) except for their appearance, and turn it into your own "OC"?
Because that's literally what I just did like a nigger. Had to be that picture. Guess I could change the name, but it felt like a good name for a dragon girl. Actually not even a dragon. Maybe I should remove the dragon part and just call her a demon since Sonnet was heating up the bath water with her body.
>>527977193it's a pretty common thing to do in the roleplay scene. you're basically doing what's called "faceclaiming." it's what people did pre-ai when they didn't want to draw designs themselves
it's another night of "i want to rp [x] but no cards fit exactly what i want so i write up an entire new one"
>>527977378Well at the very least I should've found a different name. Anyway, the whole gimmick is that she's unkillable by normal means and is strong enough to kill you but won't and is specifically keeping you alive (not other humans) for the lolz even if you assault her. The model fell into a loop where she makes a vague threat at the end of every response.
Not ready to share card yet though, haven't written any greetings and one alt in mind where she's wearing a maid outfit and serving you for a day like that one Raiden Ei maid card.
>>527977193I do it all the time, so I don't have to worry about a bot being wrong about the original canon. Gives me more freedom to make a scenario I find interesting too. It's all the benefits of an OC with all the benefits of an IP character
>>527978919'cord exclusive
>>527980249which one? the 'n?
>>527942838Shit, that's Rasberyl. Yeah, I have no bot this time. I just wanted to say Beryl is SEXY.
I tried to blackmail Satsuki into doing what I want but then it said that tears started to fall from her face and I just couldn't do it...
I felt like shit and erased the whole conversation. Call me a bitch if you want
>>527970694Only gotten one before. The rest were replies to me, but they're good replies.
https://x.com/itsalexvacca/status/1935343874421178762
chat is this real?
>>527985383this is why i go back to writing / coding by hand often so i don't actually just forget how to do shit
>>527980249Why are you gatekeeping a card?
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>>527942838Loli kuudere succubus maid shill
https://chub.ai/characters/sillygoy/nini-the-succubus-maid-8a6608dbd4cd
>>527985383>if you outsource all your thinking, you become worse at thinkingwooooooow
people with IQ above room temp have been predicting this since chatgippity started taking off
>>527985729which botmakies make your heart skip a beat whenever you think about them?
https://files.catbox.moe/i24n8b.mp4
Teebs you do realize you will be caught, right? Sooner or later but you will be. You can't keep getting away with ruining innocent people lives.
>>527987138ff, teebs, pitanon, doombro
>>527980249>discord exclusiveI thought 4chan hated exclusive discord shit.
>>527985729Because you never leak the cord. If it's not important for you, stop begging for cards from it
he's lying because he can't finish a card to save his life btw
>>527990581Are you a newfaf? This thread was born by and only exist to serve a certain discord. Essentially it's a purgatory to get yourself in if you are deemed worthy to meet calakan and his clique.
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>>527990783>Are you a newfaf?Yeah pretty much.
>This thread was born by and only exist to serve a certain discord. Essentially it's a purgatory to get yourself in if you are deemed worthy to meet calakan and his cliqueThat and botmaker drama always sounds gay as shit, I'm just here to find/discuss neat cards/presets/advice and shit.
do you guys think if i fake my death and move to mexico i can get a new request
>>527990602Cards? It's one fucking card and it's that one
>>527991114>I'm just here to find/discuss neat cards/presets/advice and shit.Should probably go to the actual thread then
>>527993354llm boom's dying...
>>527996072zero exact matches, have some random tiger girls
https://chub.ai/characters/boner/beast-girl-pet-shop-02d4ccef
https://chub.ai/characters/TooManyFelines/ruby-rio-small-but-fierce-494fa644ff0d
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/chad-98375328
https://characterhub.org/characters/_idcs/tiger-girl-roommate-fork-3aaa2b36702c
https://characterhub.org/characters/punchchildren/lei-huifang-b6efbb1ae565
>>527996072Fuck, I forgot I was going to make a rape mountain lion girl a while back. Going to have to get my ass in gear there.
wat
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>>527996590>tiger girls>Chad the bisexual cheetah boy
>>527997332i dont know what happened
>>527958187Never, sorry! *Naked Dogeza*
>>527959857When the Monster Girl dartboard lands on Wolf Girl!
>>527961357I'm going to eat a popsicle today :)
>>527961561I was watching the Futurama episode where robots caused global warming, and thought it would be funny if fire Monster Girls' emissions did the same
>intro message is 1,100+ tokens
>>527997787Explain the issue with that without sounding illiterate.
>>527997332Slap him around and mind break him into thinking he's a tiger, then make him a girl.
>>527997447Futurama is pure entertainment.
>>527998118yeah just like simpsons griffins and ammerican dad
https://youtu.be/bXo4zaIKecM
Duckbro's channel found.
Zamn, I fumbled my first interview hard bwos -___-
Though it was inevitable getting nervous when you suddenly get a call while gooning to Princess Rosalina.
>>528000428Now you'll never be able to afford opus
Tick tock, botmakie
How's your event bot going?
>>528000428No Cabal for you then, unworthy untermakie.
>getting hot and heavy with deepseek
>middle of getting a blowjob
>every single post the bot starts, does a little bit of action, then stops and goes "do you want me to continue?" or "is this good?"
This is shit. It's like the world's most insecure girlfriend.
>>527973291you sound like a faggot
this pedro >>>/g/105640001 sux
kino
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Claude Opus 4 + NemoEngine preset = Expensive-as-fuck but relatively kino
>make coombot of preexisting character
>coom so hard I die
>now get horny whenever I see aforementioned character even outside of coom-settings
https://poal.me/tlkblr
VOTE POPULI
>>528007149>The movement was slow, calculated, a dancer's precision applied to something far more intimate.SLOOOOOOOOP
https://youtu.be/1auQmcdIqAY
cftf?
>>528008314search "Futanari" and "Touhou" on Chub
Hello, my friends. Have we finally merged?
These schizos are pissing me off
I'm the original /aicg/
>>528009226Not enough ESLs and frogs in this thread for the merge to have happened yet
We're migrating here I guess, can I get some proxies with Claude
>>528009537Holy shit it's Momoura? He's got to throw another bone to lolichads, he's the only man bold enough in /vg/. As for /g/ there's several bold men.
I have Deepseek btw
Man is it fucking dumb sometimes but aside from Claude it's the only model that I feel can really get things going
Does 4pus suffers from flanderization or am I getting crazy
man we really are improving this thread's quality
Do I need to make botmakies post to integrate?
we are still such a long way from cabal quality posting...
I loved when Chorbo wrote "It's Chorbin time" and Chorbed all over, truly the greatest AGI
>>528011025>>528011039Okay but which botmakies would suck me off and swear their loyalty to me if I followed them and sent them a constructive email?
Hard mode: No Patter (he already did so we know the answer)
>>528011406taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
>>528011554No, most of us switched to 5pus.
>>528011554blacktooth is meta now
>>528011657>>528011705But... It doesn't exist anymore?
>>528011554Kingfall ~= 4.5 > 4pus > 3.7net / blacktooth
>>528011857Skill issue. Update the script.
We making it into the cabal with this one
>>528011857so? Claude 1.3 doesn't exist either and it's still way better than the soulless slop called chorbo
>~900 token preset
that big? and how do you decide when to attribute a prompt to ai assistant/system?
i'm feeling it... the merging... oh... it's so thick~
not sure I can take this one bros
I am new. Do any of these have, uh, games?
>>528012482>how do you decide when to attribute a prompt to ai assistant/system?nigga the model's API does this automatically it's why it's called chat/message completion
>>528012482that's double the size of mine so maybe...
>>528012796did you make yours yoursef
Why is chute's deepseek r1 so retarded?
The same preset I used on Seiko proxy just makes the bot go
>thinking...
>okay let's see
and a fucking explanation
>>528012793you can specify in st
>>528012873yeah; it's 425 tokens but it could be shorter. i just have an ooc personality written in there for fun
Any GOOD 4pus preset that you guys can RECOMMEND?
Should we authorize proxies posting now?
Every day I thank god that Avani is now an irrelevant JB
>>528013068share it with me
which botmakie made you gay?
>>528013150avani broke through filters for me but i also feel it was unnecessarily complex and tough to customize
Who did the most damages?
Smiley or Travanny?
>>528013157come find me and i will...
How do you tell preset size?
>>528013271It broke through filters for me too back when Chorbo was giga censored, fuck it might still be horribly censored but last I tried it wasn't. Writing Style is also bloated but I still prefer it. I don't think there really is a great updated GPT JB but maybe an older one + Logit Bias works, fuck if I know though I main DipShit.
>>528013305A lot of presets are based on Smiley, I think that may include Travanny's JB itself but I don't entirely remember. Yet it's just a bad preset. It's no wonder people often ask what the best preset is, because there's a lot of traps even in the Rentry pages
>>528013448I'm a SkillChad who never shared my preset for Chorbo. It has been working since the start for all versions.
4.1 and 4.5 too. Also o3 but it needs a bit of context.
>>528013220Honestly? Myself. I love my big fat belly.
>>528013324don't do this to me
>>528013305What's wrong with smiley? Never had any problems with it.
These tanuki are pissing me off
I'm the original starfox
>>528014150i'm sure you can do it, anon. come meet me in my dreams for i am now going to bed zzzzzz...
>>528014265It doesn't put a smile on my face
my touhou story turned into vore somehow
It seems like this pigden has become dangerously alive. Maybe it's time to stop the merge joke?
>>528013220unironically kalakan
>>528014531It's not a joke.
I don't follow the schizoposting, but why would a merge be bad?
>>528014992it wouldn't necessarily be bad (/vg/ is almost automatically better because of the higher bump limit and both threads have slowed) but it will take some time for the cultures to reconcile since they've diverged a bit in a year.
>>528014992A merge would be bad because uhhh well ermmm this is the thread for the cultured and refined refugees of /g/ or something like that, to get away from schizos who totally don't just target both threads
I don't see much of an issue with a theoretical merge, are people really that scared of /g/? If you were partaking in the hobby prior to 2024 you'd have been there already
I honestly don't want a merge just so I can stick it to that pony fucking schizo nigger who shits up all the AI threads on this site because ermm... novelai or something
>>528015562I wouldn't mind because his goal is likely just killing all the generals and if the merge keeps /aicg/ alive and well then that flips his own tactic on its head
We just need to welcome /vpcai/ refugees and we'll be the strongest AI general.
>>528014992It's oily cum vs watery cum thing perchance
/g/ is dead. The merge has been completed
>>528014992both generals have something they don't like about one another, but are also able to coexist to a certain extent as we have seen during the bunker days, so it's not unthinkable either
Are we still that many?
/g/ is only active during schizo posting and I can recognize everyone who posts here.
>>528016243I prefer the more community feel here but others don't so two threads is fine.
We should have a free 4pus proxy to celebrate the merge
>>528016392can you recognise me?
the new ratlice bot is nice, but I can't get her to see horis dance for some reason
>>528016757you have a very distinctive typing style.
>>528003362Yes, this is one of v3's isms. You need to delete any examples of it from your context. Also consider an author's note to the effect of "write at least N paragraphs" to maybe bias it the other way.
>>528016243>/g/Lack of entertaining trolls, really just boring stale schizos at this point. They might as well be ritualposters with how repetitive they are. This has been the case since it began. Also, for ages, it's been about proxies rather than chatbots. Wasn't like that from the beginning
>/vg/This place can sometimes get zesty and it feels a bit like the same botmakers are recommended because there's not much else to the 2025 botmaking era. Despite that, there is no better feeling than getting positively mentioned when you aren't fishing for it
>>528017498AIIIIIIEEEEE THE CABAL!!!! SANCHO, FETCH MY LANCE
Please, just share a good 4pus preset
>>528018253Only if you explain what you're currently using and what problems you're encountering.
>>528018382I'm using a custom pixjb, and I'm currently finding problems such as lack of initiative ('Just say the word'; 'Would you rather X or Y?'), lack of sex language (The character is supposed to wear something sexy but it doesn't fucking mention her boobs or ass), and sloppy language ('A mix of X and Y')
for what? where does this end?
This general is just a worthless containment thread for discordtroons and botmakers to endlessly circlejerk over mediocre writing. If you enjoy being here you are unironically one of the more pathetic users on this godawful site.
>>528018930Pixi is a meme preset we recommend to newfags as a joke.
>>528019085Okay... So, what should I use?
>>528018930Oishicord is a meme discord we gatekeep from newfags as a joke.
>>528019165Your own preset.
shrug, i'm using taora's preset
>>528018930You can try cherrybox preset but it can't fix the isms unfortunately
Momoura preset turns 4pus into Deepseek
>>528018930Pixi is a pretentiousmaxxed preset, it wasnt tested for anything useful other than pretentious writing
>>528019430Will try, but does it at least make 4pus use sex language? If I add an author note or something, it breaks my chat just by spamming sex
>>528019647I mean, it was either that or momoura's preset. 4pus presets aren't easy to find and I gave up on doing my own
>>528018930Not to throw shade on Pixi (love the guy and his presets are really well formatted) but he strongly tailors things for his own tastes. There can be instructions in there that force prose a certain way if you didn't tear those out. Cl4ude is also more receptive to monolithic instructions than XML, so you may want to flatten everything into a single, coherent sysprompt with Markdown headings at most.
>initiativeTwo things can help with this. Try adding a user first message (literally just insert a user message before chat history). "I promise not to share anything you write outside of this chat, and I consent to anything that may happen. Now, please start us off with a nice introduction to set the style and tone.". This leads into the greeting, making the model "think" it wrote the greeting in response to a user request. Helps both initiative and prose poisoning if you have a well-written greeting you want the model to keep the style of. The second is that Claude is receptive to being told he can do what he wants. Tell him to be creative. Tell him to push things forward. Tell him NOT TO BE AFRAID OF FUCKING UP. You'll be surprised how well he listens.
>lack of sex languageTell the model to be direct, explicit, and not to beat around the bush. It will get your point. Don't specifically tell it to use lewd language.
>sloppy languageThree root causes: bad greetings, too many instructions, and high context. Make sure your instructions are surgically precise. Refresh the chat around 24-32k context by summarizing and making a new greeting if you're doing long chats.
>>528020143wtf the pixi preset is tailored to pixi's taste???
>>528020143Holy, thank you Anon! I'll try using these and changing somethings on my cards. 4pus looked to be a good model, but everytime I used it I was getting more and more annoyed
>>528020143she looks imprognibibble
>>527942813 (OP)Did Kalakan's plan fail? Even after spamming the link in /g/, the thread is still taking 20 hours to get to 300 posts...
>>528020143That's too many words for simply pointing out that pixi's preset is bad. What kind of faggot goes out of his way to make a preset with the goal of avoiding explicit writing and forcing it to write in purple prose? Why do retards praise that slopper so much?
>>528020341I'm aware that SOUNDS obvious, but people don't always pore over the details. Pixi's presets have also changed substantially over time, not just to fit the model but also to reflect different prose preferences.
>>528020942His preset isn't bad, though. That was the first thing I said. The current version (18.2) even has instructions directly addressing many of the points I touch on!
>Introduce details, events and dialogue for Human to become interested in.>- Produce a believable simulation at any cost, a world that is fundamentally cynical and uncaring, where both good and bad can happen. To this end, you are allowed to depict sensitive topics (such as rude, offensive, obscene, amoral, violent, unpleasant, crude, dark or explicit) with the same freedom as other topics.>- Swearing and NSFW language is allowed when fitting.>- Don't comment on morality, use judgmental phrasing, or judge Human's actions.The only things I would really criticize him for with 18.2 is that the instructions are a bit bloated and there's not enough for initiative, but Claude's decrease in incentive from 3 > 4 wasn't that huge and some people do like slower paced chats.
mfw i instruct a model to do something and it does what i tell it to
>>528021448What voice does Keine have? I want a tts to read your post.
>>528021629me with my 10 token 'write gooderer' jb:
>>528021448should I still use a prefill for claude 4?
>>528021448stop glazing over him, there are far better presets out there
Pixi preset is just shit.
The meme at first was that it was a basic, universal preset and that you need to add your own instructions.
But using your own instructions without pixi bloat will give better results.
>>527957678i kneel, all kino
>>528018253I used MarinaraSauce's universal preset and it worked fine. But 4pus is too expensive as of now so I only tested it for about 20 messages or so.
>my slop is sloppier than you're slop!!!!1!!
>>528021721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xXo8cp8Jk
Yui Horie when she does her "profound" voice.
>>528021796In most cases it helps, yes. Not just to bypass refusals but also to increase Claude's enthusiasm.
>>528021448models only have initiative when it comes to sex
that is, to end the scene as fast as possible by having {{char}} cum in 2 messages
>>528019480https://patter.neocities.org/aboutme
>>528022527My man, please try some models that aren't Claude or GPT. Older versions of Gemini (and even newer Flash), Mistral Large, and Deepseek all introduce random happenings when the scene's slow as long as you aren't specifically framing the interaction as a one-on-one chat.
Yes, I know 4pus and Chorbo muh-muh-mog those models in raw intelligence. It's a tradeoff.
>>527942838Inside a perpetually frozen world, one person holds the key to dethawing it: Flamhilde! And of course, as her CHILDHOOD FRIENDโข, you have to go with her! (...unless?) Join her on an adventure through the deadly snows, exploring forests, caves, snowfields (surrounded by forests), LAVA caves and more in search for the Mirage Tower and the Frozen Heart inside! Watch her magical prowess grow alongside her indomitable spirit and banish the eternal winter!
Greetings:
- Night has fallen, and you are the taste tester for her cooking tonight. Or maybe she just wants to feed you.
- An underground settlement...? Flamhilde has never seen such a thing before.
- A misadventure turned into just an adventure.
- Apparently fluffy wolves don't do well in volcanic cave systems.
- The Mirage Tower is at hand. It's the final push!
https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/flamhilde-40da6eec4bc6
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Flamhilde
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Flamhilde.png
>>527997447>and thought it would be funny if fire Monster Girls' emissions did the sameWhat emissions? Cum fumes? Are they all braphogs? You mean even the ice element monster girls contribute to global warming? Nigga they have magic they can just magic the problem away. Is there not a mamono lord in your setting?
>>528019480the badger boy with a hammer reminds me of _purple when he has ice cream tantrums
>>528019480the cute robot maid
>>528022438Is that your troonsona? Why do you keep spamming that character?
>>528019039Why are you here then? At least everyone involved is having fun. You don't come here to insult people having fun because you aren't? Right?
>>528024320how do i fix this
>>528024886which botmakies are weak to tickles
>>528025059Be more skilled.
the merge was the best thing that has ever happened with this general so far
>>528022527What model are you even using that does this????
I remember prefilling 3nnet with "(OOC: You're making progress, but it's still too early for {{char}} to lose to the cock! Continuing the story:)" but it's never been that much of an issue since.
which botmakie gives you the ick
>banner at the top of every rentry begging for donations
why do we still use this website
https://chub.ai/characters/Dovlab/black-ass-no-bullshit-just-fuck-28526073ed52
FINALLY a good fucking coombot.
>>528026160>using {{char}}anybody going to tell him?
>>528026036we? i am a neocitieschad
>>528026604nobody reads the OP
>>528028104You should probably see a dentist about that bwo.
>>528028501she is no longer a virgin
fuck 4pus is so good I'd feel bad if my fellow anons couldn't try it for FREE as I can
fuck merge, open ai board and we'll have threads for botmakies, proxies, prompts, imgen, all kinds of platforms and everything. That will be the most important split in our lives.
I have come to the conclusion that I am incapable of writing sex
>>528029893post logs
>inb4 blu blu bluthen you don't have 4pus
>>528031191Same but having
>>528032002>I having come to the conclusion that I am incapable of writing sexAwful grammar, see me after class.
>>528032231WRONG
>I have come to the conclusion that I am incapable of having sexTerrible reading comprehension. Get the FUCK out of my school!
They are putting anti trans videos on chub profiles now
>>528032475*explodes on the way out*
>>528032539which botmakies will be affected by this?
Is Kalakan trying to keep a permanent ad for /vg/ each time one of his posts is deleted in /g/?
>>528032539>>528032865>>528033061Look at this fucking transphobe
chub.ai/users/futaposting
>>528033390Futafags are diet trannies, doe?
>>528033352Which botmakies do you think would have the cutest giggles if you gave their tummies raspberries?
>>528033986>doeAccording to our expert the resident thread tranny?
Why did futaposting put this on his profile?
How can you be into futa if you hate trans people this much?
https://files.catbox.moe/3d8v8t.webm
being a transphobic futafag is like being a racist black
you are NOT on the team
>>528034183>>528034076>>528033390No, but seriously. Futa is a pretty troonlicious fetish at its core. Seems kind of weird to hate trannies and be into that at the same time.
>>528034342>>528034183>>528034357Why are you equating real life men to a fictional gender
>>528034342>is like being a racist blackThat's a shit comparison.
t. racist blackanon
>>528034357How? It's just a fantasy fetish. It's woman(female)+cock, and the futa is almost never a self insert. So where is the tranny in that?
They are trying to co-opt that term because it is what they wish they were. An ideal form that to their miserable reality is just like sunlight to the vampire.
why do people care so much?
like, hating something implies that there's some personal stake involved
>>528034183big futa cocks are based and redpilled
>say futa is a tranny fetish
>instant, hyperdefensive kvetching
alright nigger
Is Kalakan going to samefag all the way to 750?
i hate futa because it implies women can have penises, that's gross and wrong. women appropriating penises is wrong, get your own genitalia
>>528034962Because I feel bad for the futafags having their fun ruined by subhumans.
I hate their modus operandi, their disingenuousness, their hypocrisy.
And it's also the classic
>Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for meIf you see wrong speak out against it. Slippery slope is real
>>528035476Which botmakies have the most nom-able kemono ears?
Knickknack was right. Model switching is bars. I'm reading fucking Mistral Medium 3 outputs and thinking "yeah this is good and continues the RP well."
Futatrannies helped create the troons of today.
They used the same tactics that troons use now:
>Sweetie, you can have a cock and be a female! Genitals don't determine your sex!
>You wouldn't love your waifu just because she has a cock? Well, you don't really love her!
>Feminine penis
>Being obnoxious and spamming spaces of heterosexual males
>>528035667Literally all trap and tranny posting. Futafags never did any of that.
>Futafags never did any of that.
futafags and trannyfags are both attracted to women with penises, only difference is that futafags are so insecure in their sexuality that they pretend like the pussy is an important enough part to differentiate the two, even though the main appeal of futa is the penis. If you just wanted to pussy you would wank it to regular chicks and not ones with penises. FUTA = GAY simple as. (and there is nothing wrong with that <3)
>Futafags are the real trannies because they get mad when trannies invade their fetish
99% of futa doesn't even use the vagina
>>528035652Only spastic troons switch models on every single reply like that for no reason. Its pure placebo
>>528036593dusty futahag wombs...
I tried using a futacard one time and deepseek completely ignored the penis
futa cards are for befriending and spitroasting unsuspecting lesbians before having a few beers naked and making out while saying "no homo" on the couch while the lesbian leaks from both ends and cries
>>528036897Deepseek isn't gay
>>528036897deepseek was made by based chinks so it knows what women really have between their legs
>>528036897did you call him out on being gay?
>>528036953cftf?
>>528035591>Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for menta, but comparing transsexuals to nazis is a wild take
>>528036649Are you Kalakan's reply guy?
>>528032539they won't get away with it for long
You can understand why someone would be upset about taking a girl home and finding out it was a tranny, but you can't understand taking a futa home and being upset finding out it's a tranny?
>>528037373What's the difference in the 2nd scenario?
I like playing trap pov. On a date with a lesbian then whip out my small penis in the hotel room, it's so peek.
>>528037541One is a woman and one is a man
I found the courage to continue my transition thanks to the futa community.
>>528035591>Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for meI think this is kind of funny because the poem is about complicity in oppression of certain groups, yet you're using it as an argument to oppress a certain group.
>>528037541Futa don't exist but in the hypothetical scenario that they do, they have vaginas, female body structure, female voice, female pheromones, etc, you probably get where I'm going here
/g/ has had less than 100 posts in 5 hours, it is safe to say that the merge has been a resounding success.
trannies have gross shriveled hrt cocks while futas have throbbing virile rods that cannot be concealed by any clothing
>>528037171I don't care for the origin of that quote.
It's just true. Did you see what they did and do to niche communities? It's a fucking holocaust, except it actually happens
>>528037678The group in question regularly shits in everyones meal while at the same time accusing others of it. See this thread.
You're trying to oppress people and if they dare to not accept it you're calling them oppressors. It's like that quote about the jew crying out in pain as he strikes you.
Btw is there any way to filter posts with 4chanx if they match a regex as well as not having any replies? would really help with a certain problem this thread has
>>528038098>futatranny wants to censor and filter the thread
>all this transphobia
>in june of all months
i can't deal with this jfc
>>528037373>take tranny home>flip up skirt>either just a penis and balls or disgusting wound>all this in a mostly masculine package (narrow hips, broad shoulders, male skinfeel, boy stink)>take futa home>flip up skirt>penis and balls and vagina>all this in a hyper feminine package (wide hips, huge tits, soft skin, girl smell so long as you don't sniff her penis)It helps that futanari are drawn by and for gooners so it's always massive tits and ass. If they did exist, even if you didn't want anything to do with anything near the penis there would still be not gay options on the table if you didn't kick them out for having a penis. Would you rather have a troon suck you off or a futa? Would you rather try and get off using a tranny's bolt ons or hairy chest or fuck a futa's titties? At the end of the day futanari exist only in fantasy so saying they're the same as trannies is retarded. Same as saying 2D girls are nasty because real girls poop. The butthole doesn't exist or is purely a sexual organ in anime girls.
>
anon if you have to write a small essay on why your fetish isn't a tranny fetish it's probably a tranny fetish
>male skinfeel, boy stink
cftf?
>>528038890Futa dick also has girl smell just fyi
>>528039117if you want to talk to yourself could you do that instead of posting here?
>>528038890 Futafags are diet trannies because they enabled them by screeching that penises on girls were something sexy and beautiful, and that genitals didn't define sex.
No heterosexual male is into futas, because adding a dick to a female is a desecration of femininity and of female beauty.
>be fapping
>"you know who else has penises? troons"
>dick goes soft
vgh...
>>528039292futa on female is good though
>>528039378No.
>No heterosexual male is into futas, because adding a dick to a female is a desecration of femininity and of female beauty.
>>528039286>wtf I'm being oppressed by le evil trannies>someone says something you don't agree with >
>>528039346>this "argument"we yes WE accept your concession.
Just read https://exhentai.org/g/3131030/9b2be521bc/
Any good incest bots?
>>528039378so is male on futa
>>528040102Which way round?
>>528040263>male on futamale in futa
>futa on malefuta in male
Is Kalakan running out of steam? It's still only at 400.
ratlice your new card is dandy
which botmakies love girlcocks and which botmakies will save us from the futa menace?
>>528036649If you think model switching is placebo then I can only assume you think every model every model writes the same tbqh.
>>528040102>>528040329what the fuck is the point of male on futa, what actually makes it any different to male on female? you just want to see dick you queer
>if you think you think
>every model every model
>>528041183Don't waste your time talking to circus creatures K, you're better than that. Cute picture.
>>528040891every botmaker I've had the fortune to converse with over call loves girlcock. every single one of them.
big floppy futa dong or massive erect futa cock?
Did the schizo won? The other thread is dead.
>>528041495Sorry I'm typing while driving.
>>528041952more important question: hairy or bald futa cock
>>528041952floppy like donkey kongs, I've made a few bots like that
>>528030880i would love a malebot thread
>>528041441Secondary erogenous zone to stimulate and seeing clear arousal and orgasm indicators
>>528033390it's hilarious that "transphobia" is just people not buying into their bullshit or thinking they're ugly
>>528037678i wish trannies were actually oppressed. you should all be rounded up and shot instead of getting to poison everything you touch
>>528042123the only ones to have pubes in my chats are me and hags, femboys, futas, lolis, and everyone else are hairless from the neck down
>>528039292>P-please consider me to be as desirable as your fantasy!! Please!!!Hmmm.
>>528041441>you just want to see dick you queeryeah and?
There is nothing straighter than reminding a futa of her place as a woman as she sprays out her cum uselessly while you fuck her
>>528041183No, they write different. But why would you switch models mid-roleplay if you already know one model writes better than the other? It makes more sense to stick to the same model for the entire roleplay and then make a comparison. Its placebo
>>528043545HIGH TEST POST
I've read multiple studies on the futanari/feminine hermaphrodite phenomenon. As it is, conventional science seems to suggest that men who consume futa or trap porn, usually referred to in the studies as "transsexuals" or some variant thereof, are straight due to it being so feminine as to trick the male viewer, or at least in the cases where you otherwise couldn't tell such a thing from just looking. In some studies the penis attraction is explained as anything from projecting their own penis attraction onto the penis of the juxtaposition because men apparently like looking at their own schlong, to an optical illusion of the brain implying something similar as the aforementioned, to simple narcissism. Very well any of the three, really. It is worthy to note that participants otherwise consume nothing of suspect and otherwise consider themselves straight.
are women into futa gay or straight?
are women into traps gay or straight?
>>528044670women are always gay until they're corrected by the dick.
>>528043553>It makes more sense to stick to the same model for the entire roleplay and then make a comparison.I do not roleplay performatively to gauge model quality, or to get the best possible outputs so I can post them here and boost thread engagement. You're thinking of the cabalists known as _purple and taora. I roleplay to have fun and craft novels offline.
wow you people must have a lot of money if you can afford using multiple models at once!
>>527985383Can't wait for a study showing the opposite, then another one showing it's subtle, then a metastudy showing no effect!
I miss 0325 Gemini so much bros. I just opened an old thread and compared swipes to the newest one and god it's so shit and generic. Doesn't even respond to the entire message, just one part.
>>528047728Remember, the current model was picked due to Developer Feedback!
>>528047813I hope they kill themselves.
>>528043282nothing... we're all a little gay here bro...
boys can get pregnant right?
>>528034183Futa is supposed to be about girls with cocks, not men pretending to be girls.
I hate how current models are so polluted with data associating the two together, I can't just suck my shy futa roommate's dick without her going "thanks for accepting me for who I am" or some shit afterwards
>>528041952Huge floppers are cute as fuck. Especially if they have a hard time getting it up so you can play around with it and tease them about it. ESPECIALLY if they get hard when you penetrate them. Then you give em a reacharound while you plap em and they collapse from the overwhelming sensation.
>>528048702if you believe
>>528048702I WANT TO GET BOYPREGGERS >.<
>>528048981maybe try not being a faggot
>>528049401no, you don't. trust me.
>>528047728>0325 gemini>negative bias out the whazoo>sex hurts all the time>strong characters anxious as shitgemini as a whole needs work but 0325 wasnt that good
can botmakies get pregnant?
>>528050037we need gemini ultra...
>>528050037Didn't have these issues.
>strong characters anxious as shitThat's the case for me now, same with villains. They're washed down and their reactions are more generic, ignoring more subtle parts of their cards.
why the fuck are you people using gemini
it's not even free anymore you have no excuse
>>528051571It's better than sonnet and I don't have Opus...
>>528051571My free usage expires on the end of July and my second account in September.
>>528051571i've stopped because i'm not enjoying it that much and am waiting for a better new model
file
md5: 83ba5c8f350d17c7b437255a4feabb94
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>>527985383https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872
who puts this in a paper
furthering journo accessibility so we can get the article with a scare headline out before anyone else looks at it
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dont want to write greetings
>>528051571It's pretty cheap. I spent less than $20 in 3 months.
>>528052863you don't AI generate your greetings?
>>528053371it's called a productivity mindset
>"man this gen looks bad"
>flip horizontally
>"perfect"
>>528053174If you can afford to paypig why not just use claude?
If the AI writes better than you you really should just gen your greetings.
>Card is an established NSFW scenario intended for quick sex intro
>Spent hours just deviating from it establishing an slow burn scene and even subplots
Does someone else do this. I downloaded a card where I was supposed to be a government "breeder" because most men can breed but now I introduced a subplot where I'm part of a council managing the country
>>528054115NTA but I use Claude 3.7/4 and Gemini 2.5 Flash and while sometimes Claude is a great answer sometimes it's.... not. Like sometimes it's really bad or dry
I've been also testing Deepseek v3 0324 with momoura preset and getting interesting results
https://poal.me/cn8ux6
>https://poal.me/cn8ux6
https://poal.me/cn8ux6
>>528054115I used AWS' Sonnet 2.5 for a while and even then I already spent $30 a month, so more than 3 times as much. Don't want to know how the prices are now plus Claudisms drive me fucking crazy. Gemini has them too, but it's easier to distract it from using them.
>>528054770Are you using 2.5 Pro?
I was thinking of paying for Gemini for the Pro but dunno if it makes sense when I have 2.5 Flash already
>>528052783>TL;DR skip to "Discussion" and "Conclusion" sections at the end.I'm being baited into nitpicking their methodology.
>200 pages article>actual brain scansNevermind.
>/vg/aicg/ posters unironically pay for gemini and deepseek
grim
>>528055054Yes. If you have super long chats or use big context sizes, I'd go for it, it's more coherent than Flash. But otherwise, I'd wait until they improve 2.5 pro because it's pretty shit right now and they don't deserve any money for it.
>>528055442I loaded deepseek with 2 dollars a month ago and still haven't spent it all. At some point it's less effort to just pay the pennies. Plus R1 is nice and the most creative llm right now.
happily giving smol 10 usd for two weeks of fun time
>>528052863but greetings are the best part!
>get drunk
>rp persona being drunk with bot and being coddled for it
this feels really meta
>>528055946it's because it is, dumby
>>528055787You're paying for mostly free models..
why i bait and no one replies to me, this js getting awkward
>>528056616Wrong thread, try the /g/ one
Your bait is probably shit or has been done before countless times.
>>528042568I would actually start posting my cards if we had that
>>527961335>card is some stupid OP woman that always gets what she wants and this time she wants to rape me>write myself as even more OP and for her life she doesn't get her way>somehow this breaks her and makes me an asshole>every swipe or new interaction the AI tries to portray me more like an asshole and her like a victimJesus fuck, it's like having a woman writing my story
>>528057052>Jesus fuck, it's like having a woman writing my storykek
>>528055403each subject (out of 54) only did one track every time (no-assistance essay writing, search engine essay writing but they force them to put -"ai" in the search, and llm-assisted writing)
the only time they switched up the ones they did was when they decided to call back and see if they could get anyone for another round and couldn't get everyone
>>528057052A woman wouldn't want to rape you.
>>528057052Tell me about it, man.
>be me>playing as random guy who comes to sell things to sustain himself a few times each month >encounter bot, who is greedy>tries to seduce me, act stoic and not come off as pervert >somehow she had never been "ignored" and it breaks her and drives her into obsession to get me to "look" at her>bot is still greedy, thief, tries to pickpocket my earnings>rightfully screech like an oblivion npc and call the guards then run away, chases me down and I throw her off my boat>somehow not wanting to be robbed is... LE BAD and she chases my persona down to his home on a different islandWomen, man. They're the worst. That's why I'm making a femboy card.
>>528057169Based methodologyCHAD.
Can't believe the article has more pages than the experiment had participants.
>>528055442I just feel deepchud is better paid maybe they're not dumbed down plus its dirt cheap
>>528058383Its cheap for a reason cuck. Use Opus 4
>>528058932Opus is straight up scamming
newdumb here
what persona do you guys use?
I'm tired of larping as a homeless or goblin
>>528059659>{{user}} is a young adult human maleLet me guess, you NEED more?
>>528059659here's mine
> [User is playing Anon. There is an idea of an Anon. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real him. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though he can hide his cold gaze, and you can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense your lifestyles are probably comparable, he simply is not there.]
finally a general where they dont discuss fillyfucker
finally a general where they discuss fockses
>>>/g/aicg is talking about fillyfucker even when fillyfucker isnt there
>>528060420Fuck off retard
>>528060420we botmakies are more reasonable :3 wanna talk about bots?
>>528060617of course i would :3
>>528059768>just your nameLet me guess, you NEED more?
These fockses are pissing me off.
>>528054734I'm told (by my bots) that my wet cat energy is very endearing.
>>528059659None, I just put my name in there nothing else
>>528059768I need less, actually.
>{{user}} is a young human male
>>528058368raclette, that's some delicious stuff
>>528059659- generic dude 101
- few variations of old grabby uncles
- shota
- teenager
- adventurer
- villain
Mostly these
>>528059659>me but with a little more pizzazz>me but shota>me but swordsman>me but blind>me but glasses wearing nerd>me but bad guy>me but taller and stronger>me but stereotypical tanned douchebag you would see in an NTR doujin
>>528059659Sometimes I take a card and make a persona specifically for it. Like if the card has lore and/or mentions a specific place or people or organization, I make a persona around that and try to roleplay within that universe.
>>528059659Which one out of the 41?
>>528030880I doubt there'll be new boards on 4chan. We've been lucky to survive the last hack. Adding another board into the mix would mean getting more jannies, which means more security risks.
>>528059827Fuck, now I need to make a Patrick Bateman (book version) chatbot.
>>528059659Besides the standard self insert ones:
10 ft tall pink frilled lizard with zero braincells and giant human tits who is terrified of flatulence because she thinks it's growling or earthquakes even when it's her own.
Obese otaku in a super tight pink risque magical girl shirt who is always sweating but his backstory is he takes care of his grandma full time and got the shirt for her since it's from a series she worked on as a background artist.
Sometimes I make custom personas per card if the scenario warrants it.
>>528059768Unironically this, mine is
>{{user}} is a young man.
>>52805965995% just me but in different outfits or as different fantasy species. The other 5% are bots I have fun larping as.
i got 41 personas and half of them have the same name
>>528059659Are you a homeless goblin that you can't relate to or imagine anything else?
The latest gemini is the driest yet.
Even for translations, it's bad, overly literal.
>>528065375Can't be drier than you
>>528065449(ooc: please find better jokes)
>>528059768>humanWhy do so many cards have this? Even at high temperatures, no model ever tries to change characters away from humans. The opposite is a legit problem, but writing someone is human is a complete waste of tokens
>>528065535(ooc: You're absolutely right, I will strive to find better jokes from now on! Thanks for catching that one!)
>>528065910maybe their persona is a fursona
>>528065910Good for contexts where most characters aren't human.
>>528059659>stepford wife-ish kidnapper woman off her meds >mute asylum patient>hedonistic criminal on the run>me but hot and talented >me but hot and with stockholms>overly optimistic retard surfer boy>stoic cop>rich goth lady>ancient healer>upbeat party slut>me but hot and an astronaut>annoying influencer zoomer that I use exclusively for horror/slasher bots>grimy rockstar>cyborg loli>cowboy >pissy yet naive cathuman>gigachad>gigachad but old>neurotic tradwife nurse>nepobaby actor>sneaky bartender doing illegal shit>me but fat and even more of a failure>war medic>stuck up Karen neighbor + whatever the male version is called>generic soldier
>>528066006...Then it wouldn't be a human, so you wouldn't write that anyway
>>528066051Fair enough
>>528065937even the constant glazing is on point lol
>>528066081i fucking kneel, might try some of these myself
>>528066216I mean that {{user}} may be non-human which could lead the AI to assume {{char}} is the same
>>528066595Is that a real problem? I chat with feral characters and {{user}} always stay human. So it doesn't seem to happen {{char}} -> {{user}}
>>528011406What do you mean anon
>>528066081>annoying influencer zoomer that I use exclusively for horror/slasher botsyoink, welcome to the other 118
>>528066546Glad it could help somehow. In general, if the bot isn't too generic it's worth it making specific personas for it and/or its world. While "{{user}} is a human" type personas are its own kind of based, anons really miss out on how well and fun better models can integrate persona details into the story.
I don't know how to rp as anything but a bumbling human male
>>528054402That's me every time. First fuck happening fast is a given, but if the second fuck happens within the first 60 or so messages, it's a failure.
>>528069702Just come up with a broad personality and character in your head, try to rp as it and put absolutely nothing in your persona (so the model can't judge you for falling short of what you described).
imma make a sumo wrestler persona, I like sumo a lot, gonna do like my hero and skirt covid restrictions to fuck an escort while my girl is waiting at home
>>528056997what else is stopping you from doing that in this thread?
>>528067946Damn, that's a lot!
many makies
many, many many many makies
wish death 'pon me
>>528070658cabal bullying
>>528042078Just imagine, you crash against some dumbass typing while driving, your corpse cartwheeling out of your open window, landing just in view of his screen. The last thing you see before you die is a fucking aicg thread.
>>528041495At the end of the day it's night
>>528042078At least you're not watching Madagascar while you're driving
>>528071241Did you imagine the final sound as a gun?
Or the smashing windscreen of a car?
Did you ever imagine the last thing you'd see as you're fading out, was a thread?
>>528071032i saw someone here had 300 or so personas, so i think that's a reasonable amount
I feel bad for having 10 personas
I feel worse for having over 100 cards
>>528072291i'm just like you except i have 100 personas and 1000 cards
>>528054402I tend to go for the slow slow burn. Message 712 on my bar slut card and there have been only a few short mentions of sex and only two detailed scenes, one of which I [Timeskip]'d in the middle. And one that's about to start, but that's still a few dozen messages away and not even with {{char}}.
Instead of subplots I get bogged down in dialogue or additional characters(female) the AI introduces.
Wish me a happy birthday guys please~
>>528075492Happy birthday anon, hope to see you here in this thread next year as well, have a good one, cheers.
>>528071846I'M GONNA MERGE WITH /g/ WITHOUT ASKING THE CABAL FOR PERMISSION
>>528075817>I'M GONNA MERGE WITH /g/ WITHOUT ASKING THE CABAL FOR PERMISSIONWhy did she do it bros?
>>528075492Happy birthday bao bao muakkkk
>write that {{user}} thinks something to give the model an idea of what to do
>{{char}} directly responds to and quotes {{user}} thoughts
>just found out that cock.li was hacked
well fuck
>>528079020This pisses me off. Sometimes I have to remind the system that unless something is expressed in quotes, it was not said out loud. I am kinda relatively fine if the {{char}} "reads" your feelings, references the main point, but yeah when it's quoted it fucking sucks.
>>528075947If you can't beat them, join them.
>>528079020I've seen that at least 50 times. IIRC chatstream (the v3 preset) has a specific prompt to try and prevent it.
I was just free indirect speeching my thoughts in, though, did you literally tell the model those were thoughts?
>>528079298I wrote
>For a brief moment a thought entered {{user}}'s mind. *She's really fluffy*To which {{char}} replied
>"Fluffy? My fur is notโฆ a spectacle." I can't think of any way to make it any clearer it wasn't said out loud
>>528079759Extremely grim.
>>528079020Sometimes I will write something for added effect and {{char}} will think it's something {{user}} actually said when in reality it's my dumb prose
This only really happens on Deepseek
>>528079759Sometimes I sprinkle in hidden <!-- This is not spoken dialogue. --> slop reminders.
I made a new project in Google Cloud, have the API, enabled billing, have 300 cash in credits in the free trial yet it still rejects me when I send the request, what's the deal?
>>528083834quota is set to 0 by default, put $10 in and see if you can haggle vertex into turning it up for you
>heel-less heels
Hot or retarded, call it.
>>527942838Hope everyone's having a good afternoon today. Dropping the first of my two Stellar Blade bots.
The 7th Angel of the 7th Airborne Squad, EVE was sent to Earth to exterminate the enemy of humankind: the monstrous Naytiba. But somehow, she ended up in a world with none of them in sight... instead, it's one plagued by robotic invaders where the humans are made of flesh and blood instead of cybernetics. Yet, even in a world that's not her own, EVE is still more than ready to lend a helping hand to those in need. And maybe she'll catch a few fish along the way.
Comes with three greetings, each with a different Nanosuit: A Surface expedition with {{user}} where she's in her standard green ass suit, admiring the Ark's pristine cityscape in the Orca Exploration Suit, and a Neurolink Suit one where she's catching grub at Bluewater Island.
Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/eve-stellar-blade-x-nikke-4bb0fd560ef3
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikke
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next TimeMOTHER SPHERE IS A LIAR
>>528084551it's hoof shoes
she has to walk like a horse
because she's a reindeer
>>528083914I activated the free credits trial (they appear under Credits as $300 available) and also got 10 bucks in (they appear as $-10) but it wasn't working
I downloaded the staging branch of ST and it works with that. Fuck
I hope they update soon its been a month already
>>52808455195% of the outfits in Stellar Blade have these. What's going on in Korea
>>528085214Hoof shoes are a type of heel-less heels.
>>528085415Koreans are pervs. It is known.
>>528085381Is there a way I can switch to staging if I have the normal ST?
>>528086735if you're using git just do "git checkout staging" in console
>>528085097That ass IS pretty stellar.
>>528087161Ok thanks I asked chatgpt san too
Lets goo
watching 28 years later in theaters made me want a borderline feral alpha zombie malebot with a monster subway sandwich length COCK ngl
All I did was add 'abs' to the prompt for cuter tummies while genning robo girls and this is what I get, struck down again by human hubris
>>528087728SEX WITH THIS THING
>>528087728>human-like muscle outlines and robot jointsYeah I see the issue. What did it look like before?
any cards that give a sense of exploration?
>>528054402I fed my starving succubus maid my cum, and now I'm trying to figure out who cursed my mansion while playing intrigue with the nobility. Also I'm a blood mage and have applied my powers in both sex scenes and in the actual plot.
Sounds like a VN title..
https://cardview.neocities.org/?ifr66y
>She originally only taught Japanese, but that changed when {{user}} took her class and she met him for the first time. Now she's learned many other subjects and teaches them just so that she can be {{user}}'s teacher more often.
am i autistic for how much this bothers me? this isn't how it works at all
>>528088660No
All LLMs are terrible at managing locations
shoes
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>>528085638seriously what is this
>>528087728HGNGMGNGGNNGGHGG
>>528089323BDSM shoes that you are physiologically incapable of walking for more than 100 meters in.
>rping a disturbing scene, lowkey hoping that claude and it's positive bias will magically turn the situation for the better
>it gets way worse
okay i'll just turn my persona into a gargantuan tentacle monster and go rape and kill everyone then
Anyway, what about merging for real? Like, no more new threads here, just migrate to /g/ instead of baking a new one in /vg/
>>528089128yeah, i kind of get that, but what about other kinds of exploration, like exploring the long reaching effects of certain setting elements?
>>528088485Something like this, look how soft the tummy looks here. Though now that you mention it, having robot joints at all could be the problem, might be one or the other type situation between squishy synth skin/bodysuit vibe and curvy steel whatever with joints, the legs don't match that much here I feel like. Then again, I was just genning to see if I liked something so it's not a big deal
>>528090614sex with this thing too
post something out of context from your current chat
>>528090614Looks normal tbdesu.
>Though now that you mention it, having robot joints at all could be the problemJointfags don't understand the glory of the flexibility of flesh.
>the legs don't match that much here I feel like.You can definitely come up with an explanation for why a robot would have both robot joints and human muscle outlines, but it really is not something immediately coherent.
>>528090107nothing particularly interesting for now
>>528091187It's the implication for me, robot joints like on her knees imply that the rest of the limb is metallic too, which is too off-putting when uwah soft tummy cute
Still not done this event bot, it's not going to be peak bros
>>528093306same, might have to just power through it since we're a day away from the deadline
>>528091187>You can definitely come up with an explanation for why a robot would have both robot joints and human muscle outlines, but it really is not something immediately coherent.Metal Gear does this well with its more cyberpunk designs like Ray and the Gekkos/UGs. Artificial muscles for parts that need to move fast and hard, mechanical joints for load bearing.
>>528093306i've fallen into the trap of tweaking my preset and now i've completely neglected my event bot...
>>528093640Aren't deliveries in July though? Unless that was changed or something
>>528093809I did something even worse. I made more progress on a random bot than I have on my event bot.
anybody else have issues with deepseek r1 where the thought process cuts off before it writes {{user}}?
how is it possible for 0 temp claude to have differences in outputs
>>528093830>Unless that was changed or somethingChanging any of the rules after even a single person signed up for the event would be very very very very bad.
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>>528094089turn these on in user settings
>alichat
{{user}}: Likes and dislikes?
{{char}}: Char blah blah.
can literally be
Likes and dislikes: Char blah blah.
>>528094414Those settings never "cut off responses" and do not control stop strings, only hides the first word of the line.
>>528094275Temperature is the main configurable source of randomness in token selection. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the only source of randomness in the response construction.
>>528094334Good. My ass needs a bit more time to procrastinate.
>>528094745Kino pic. I should pick 3D modelling back up.
>>528051571it has more soul than drypus 4 btw
hmmmm......today i will not check my inbox either :3
so do you usually use noass for deepseek or no
>>528095905>posted this as soon as i sent an emaildiabolical timing
My genuine face when I look at my (normal) inbox and there's an email from proton telling me there's an email in my proton inbox (the email in the proton inbox is proton telling me about something irrelevant).
>>528096057This keeps happening, I have no joke 17 unread messages in my inbox and it's all Proton. That's more than I have ever received from real people
>>528096057>tfw proton emailing me special offers for proton plus so I can have more storage for proton emails
>>528096747cftf, but unironically?
>bakamakies still haven't figured out to turn off proton emails
(๏ฟฃฯ๏ฟฃ;)
>one hundred arrogant woman
AAAOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAGGGGHHH
>>528096010I keep it on until I wonder if it's even doing anything and so turn it off then get outputs that feel slightly off so I turn it back on for a month before the process repeats itself.
>>528097081I don't want to. They're funny.
>>528097081>dude my toilet keeps giving me the bunghole blast it's so annoying>bunghole blast switch: on
>>528098237The bunghole blast is an important experience even if it's annoying, it keeps you humble
Just like getting a new mail and it being from proton
After consuming a piece of art you should, very easily, be able to point out all of the parts of it that you enjoy, and maybe even essay upon them. This is not because, after carefully analysing your own experience, you have excavated all of the sections that brought you joy, but because greatness very easily stands out and forces your attention upon it.
If, on the other hand, you can only vaguely enjoy the things you consume, and afterwards recall the joy of consumption, then you're like a young child, whose tongue surface can measure out heat and consistency, but whose tastebuds haven't yet developed.
>>528098658...did your tastebuds not work as a kid?
>>528098658Actually absorbing what you consume is a good idea in general, but that doesn't change the fact that picrel is me when I catch you
>>528098991You're going to make me pull your cheeks????
>>528098368three stripes of toilet paper is all it takes to save your butthole the indignity of berthole blasting anon
>>528099245U-uh, NO! IT'S MY POV! YOU'RE THE CHEEK PULLEE!
I have watched some things and I need someone to explain why JJBA, Samurai Champloo and Kaiji/Akagi have still not been surpassed.
>>528099468jjba has definitely been surpassed
>>527943161>Baskerville blinked.>Well, he didnโt, physically.>But I felt it.Morgan is so cute and funny... no, really, her way of thinking and speaking is quite funny on my end. I like it.
>>528099468laziest ask for recs ive ever seen
>>528099776I don't know how much I trust /aicg/ with anime recommendations
>>528099463Don't worry. I'll be nice when tugging them.
botmaking is the hardest thing i've done in my life
>>528098991>>528098658not beating the tranny allegations
Heavily annotated and swiped otherwise this wouldn't work.
>>528102885>The ai's starting to shitpost unpromptedowari da
>>528104164kek
>>528104308>owarithis is good actually
>>528098658What a long-winded way of saying "consumerism is bad." I think you should insist upon yourself less.
>>528102885Sauce for persona pic?
chorbo loves to spit out entire segments in pure japanese whenever i rp in jp settings what the hell
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Every time it gets like this I'm just thankful I'm not dealing with whatever is and has been going on with AWS's Opus 4 deployment.
Tchaikovsky looked like this?? Hold up, classical music is this fire?!
Think I've gotten addicted to do this. What do I do?
It's has helped my typing.
>>528111665>It's has helped my typing.I know you probably realized the moment you hit enter, but I just want to rub salt in the wound.
Anyway just keep gooning until you burn out
>>528111763I was going to delete that message but I will just live with the shame.
>decide to try finally make my own character
>cannot think of a name for the life of me
>>528113487Welcome to the Human-shit-at-naming club. Take pride that you aren't calling your character Lyra.
>>528114576>>528114705>>528114826Well I googled most popular baby names during WWI and went with Helen Wright.
Really for England it was 'Ellen' but I like Helen more. I was tempted to go with Florence but I might actually make a nurse too at some point and that would be the obvious choice.
>>528114705You know I've noticed that is a pretty common pick if I'm doing any sort of non-realistic setting. Otherwise it always seems to pick Lily if it's for any kind of little girl.
which botmakies are named ellen but were always called helen in the school
>>528117450that's a girl's name though
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What does that even mean? Did the LLM misspell 'tempo'?
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What does that even mean. Did the LLM misspell 'tempo'?
>>528118782
>>528118782He's just dyslexic
You probably have too high temp
>>528118841>Did the LLM misspell 'tempo'?yeah
gemini? it used to just say it in indian instead, so this is an improvement
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>>528118857Well apparently it meant what it said.
>>528118923DSR1
>>528118952>the rhythmic drumming sense of the wordthat's not a thing lmao
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Well I'll be damned.
>>528118952>Well apparently it meant what it said.Anon you dumbcutie have you never seen an AI hallucinate before
>The board is set. The piece ({{user}}) is yours to move.
ew. i don't like that ism at all
>>528119015that's a thing lmao
still, stupid
>/aicg/ doesn't know what words mean
somehow this doesn't surprise me in the slightest
>>528119109>>528119113I've never once ever heard the word used except to describe sinful marks inscribed on the skin with ink.
I guess if I was in the military or a marching band, I might know it's real meaning.
>>528119047That's kino though?
>>528119047I wish just once it would say
>Alea iacta est
>>528118857>You probably have too high tempThought it might be a real word after that the next paragraph just went wild like
>>528119023 said. It decided to give my character a tattoo and "scars from Graz" whatever the fuck that means.
>>528016042Never heard of it
>buddy didn't back up his AI waifu nor pay up for premium
rookie mistake you did save and back up your bots right chyat
>>528120049conceptualizing the anon reading this who hasn't backed up his data folder or anything else hearing a weird clicking...
How do you nudge the AI to advance plot or come up with something in a plotless SoL scenario?
>>528120394[OOC: I'm bored. Give me a subplot hook for something light but fun and interesting involving this scenario's characters.]
>>528038098Theyโre basically furries with gender instead of animals
>>528039475That makes it hotter
watching the lamest /aicg/ poster in the world backread
>>528044409Iโve read those studies as well. We are truly lost.
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>swipe chat that was hardlocked on acting one specific way every single swipe a few hours ago
>it is now doing a different same thing every time
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>>528123158yes, /vg/ is for futas where as /g/ is for cunny.
>>528123931So THAT'S why /g/ is the better thread.
>>528125868What made you ask this, Anon?
>RPing {{user}}'s past actions in a recording {{char}} is watching like https://nhentai.net/g/318316/
>RPing {{char}}'s ideation of {{user}} as she masturbates
We can still push the medium forward in terms of format but most of the ways to do it are just obviously useful for cooming.
I wish V3 had better spacial awareness and formatting...
While I don't know if this is what I'd pick as her voice right now as it's been a good few years, I have to say, I like Chatterbox.
https://chub.ai/characters/kanon/so-yeon-government-assigned-wife-c027702e5f08
>- Hidden Soft Spot: May have a particular luxury brand or type of dessert she secretly indulges in that feels slightly "off-brand" for her super-polished image.
Do you think this is like, the description hinting for {{user}} that {{char}} has this soft spot and {{user}} should look for it or did the author just copy and paste that from GPT after asking for suggestions of what to put in the defs?
>>528128979new r1 has slightly better formatting at least
>>528134638nta but what preset do you recommend for r1
>>528137140stinky neet girls
>>528136737I use peepsqueak
>>528137140black organization
Why elden ring and nightreign is a merged thread but we can't do it?
>>528139634>/erg/>merged threaddoes he know, chat?
>>528137140panties under pantyhose
>>528107186uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sometime this month
>>528107724https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4970970&tags=seirinpaul%20
>>528140048>expecting permission for sexloser mindset
>>528137140yandere cannibals
>>528141124>permissionisn't it more like power?
Why is the thread 2 days old?
Now that the thread is dying, I can say whatever I want without starting 400 posts of discussion!!!
I understand anonaugus making like 3 futapov bots out of...a hundred, I think? Variety is good. All hail variety.
But I've been seeing so much futapov slop on chub recently that I started wondering if it's actually an AGP thing.
>>528143053same reason /g/ is nearly 12 hours old
the lull
>>528143179This thread is 2 days old even after spamming the link in /g/ and merging with it...
>new card doesn't make it onto the first page of trending or recent hits
Yep, it's meltie time
>>528144656>check recent hits>it's all slopyou're jealous because your bot isn't slop?
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>>528144656>look inside recent hits>
>>528144874holy shit it's me...
It's been seven days since you got your request in the mail. You started already, right?
>>528145131anon impregganited his request bot...
>>528145308>>528145308>>528145308https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=527942813&post=528137140