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>>527969412Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/>https://deltarune.com/#news>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6-Writebins
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>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg-/vg/ League team
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fingers in his aaaaass
finger in his aaaaaass
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I LOVE TV! SAY IT WITH ME! I LOVE TENNA!!
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/8BUKHLVCJio
I am here for cool art and fat asses
>>527986626I put his top balls in my mouth.
the final boss of deltarune
Asgore will have his moment.
>>527986626I'm gonna be honest, on my first playthrough I didn't see how anyone would be attracted to the TV. He didn't strike me as a particularly sexual being
>>527986626I FUCKING LOVE TV!!
Final Boss Checklist
>Angel
>Kris
>Knight
>Carol (Non-Knight)
>Noelle
>Dess (Non-Knight)
>The Tail of Hell
>FRIEND
>Gaster
>Vessel
>Some literally who who appears out of nowhere in the last 30 minutes
>>527986626I LOVE TV!!!!!!!
Someone explain this image to me. Why does he wear the briefs?
>>527986732You didnt notice his gigantic ass when he bent over to spray Spamton?
a rare blonde dess before i go to bed
>games ending is a montage of smaller ending depending on what you did, including who Kris ends up with
>Not only can Kris end up in a relationship with Susie, Noelle, Ralsei, or when Berdly, and even a polycule, but Suselle is straight up not a possible ending no matter what you do
Imagine the meltdown this would cause
>>527986759The angel is us so I really have no idea how they're gonna actually banish us if we're allowed to fight back because we're beyond cracked. I could see a kris fight in the weird route but the gap in power between him and US makes me thing he's gonna need some sort of insane asspull. We've already fought the knight so idk.
Guys, what if, ultimately, the "Freedom" theme of the Shadow Crystal stuff ends up being not for us, but for something worse.
What if Friend really is something truly demonic, just taking the appearance of a friend in the dark to manipulate the Knight/Dess into spreading the Shadow Crystals to the heroes, all so IT can be freed in the end somehow?
>>527986856Probably not as big of a meltdown as the lesbian ending will cause
>>527986923who cares, kris will commit suicide and be with dess in the dark...
>>527986747>>527986798AND THE TV LOVES YOU!!
>>527986732He's a lab grown tumblr sexyman, but i understand that not everyone can like him, but man he's so cute i can't stop thinking about Tenna
>>527986759Forgot Susie and Ralsei
Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.
I love Chara and want her to break me.
>>527986917given how the standard Schizos are directly connected to Gaster in some way or another (Gerson still unsure just know he has a crystal) I wonder what his affiliation with FRIEND is given that Friend is now officially more mysterious of a character than Gaster himself
>>527986635freedom motif makes me splurt my brogurt fucking everywhere man ough
>>527986917Every copy of Deltarune is personalized after Toby shoved a real life biblical-grade demon inside it and the entire plot is slowly unboxxing its shattered form across millions of game copies to unleash it back into the real world
>>527986657I too am here for the fat butts
I read that Undertale is supposed to the ending to Deltarune, how does that make sense?
>>527987024>ralsei becomes realBASED
>>527986626I DEGLOVE TV! (So I can clean his outer casing, fix his wires and add soft insulation padding to reduce electrical issues)
>>527986917>>527987013I think Friend is a malicious bug in Gaster's code and we were brought in to fix the bug
RALSEI IS A BABY AND THE BABY IS YOU
anyone have any actually funny images with the original
starwalker
>>527987128which youtubers theory is this?
I think Friend is just a higher tier schizo. The other guys are bums.
>>527987013I wonder if FRIEND is somewhat like our Soul - it can only interact with the world in limited ways. So far at least. But I view it as a voyeuristic figure in general.
>DEVICE_FRIEND
>Your Best Friend
>>527987172i had one where he curbstomped something but lost it
>>527987128>Ralsei was adopted by Asriel and Dess in the past>their parent is the dead titan in the cliffs area from chapter 1>Ralsei is trying really hard to be a darkner as a parallel of Kris wishing he was a monster instead of a human
FRIEND IS A DOG NOT A CAT
>>527986759The Tail of Hell is FRIEND's for sure. The lost children followed it where the forest would grow. FRIEND has appeared in every Dark World Roots location so far, so presumably he would also appear in the real Roots: the shelter, or at least its Dark World. I believe that the FRIEND is definitely involved in the disappearance of Dess. It's also possible that as a DEVICE, this was part of Gaster's plan to ensure that the prophecy is properly subverted (to have a new future), which then also implies Dess was an original member of the prophecy.
Susie is built for Tender human kisses (and also the ones where she shoves her tongue down Kris' throat)
>>527987192https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhv55ss0B4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfro9XfU1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUcThHVbrXY
The shadow mantle quest feels like it's going to bite me in the ass later on
>>527986626I love small tv!
>>527987253friend is a buddy
>>527987172found this in arch, one of my old arts...ahh the memories...
>>527987396It'll be worth it for the Ramb boss fight
>>527987253>hatched from the Man's egg>Man's best Friend
I hope to see gote dreams again. Goodnight.
>>527987185Is FRIEND supposed to represent something or be a metaphor for something? What is toby meant to be trying to teach us
>>527987272I've seen a few posts that assert Dess and Kris following the tail pretty confidently. and while i love the idea i have no clue where it comes from. Is it completely speculation or is it suggested somewhere?
reminder: your choices don't matter!
Spamton is evil and vindictive and manipulative and deceitful and hypocritical and I will pet him as he rests on my lap under a comfortable blanket and digests three big burgers that I bought for him
>>527987547My choices do matter, and I will tear Kris and his life down to the ground with bodies
>>527987447I like the spin on the purple soul mechanics here
>>527987468The message of Undertale is "Try not to kill, and try not to be killed."
I think its too early to say what Deltarune is about but it seems to be primarily about willpower and defiance against fate. To that end, I would say that FRIEND is likely a thing that seeks absolute freedom and views the entire world as its playground. A toxic Friend in name only that seeks to control you, that stands as a contrast against your true friends that support you.
However, I am no theory crafter, only a humble ass lover, so I will probably be wrong.
post your cutest krises and/or susies
>>527987627Absolutely based, feed the evil
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>>527986626I love TV!
I can't stop drawing his fat ass
>>527987504It's a metaphor for when dess told Kris to focus on her tail while she was bouncing allat culo on his little penor
Brown soul fight.
Press X to shit. Z to fart.
>>527987806please draw more of his fat dumpy...
This man is so greasy that if you shined a light on him he would flashbang you
>>527987842Toby, hire this man.
>>527986917>Seam goes to purify the crystals>"You see, Lightners.. what I do to these crystals isn't quite purifying them.">"It's more like a trade.">"And when I give it light...">"It gives me dark.">" 'It?' Haha, what am I saying.">"It's rude to talk that way about someone.">"Someone who's listening.">Seam's missing is filled up with yellow, and pink creeps out from behind his button>Smile wider than ever
>>527987013>>527987097>>527987185I'm cooking up a theory. I need to make a big conspiracy board image for it.
>Dess gets trapped in the Dark, hearing a scratching sound for years, driving her to the brink of madness>In her isolation, she needs someone, anyone. A FRIEND.>She thinks back to her stuffed toy when she was little, Seam (Asriel has a drawing of Seam, Dess has frayed yarn and buttons in her stuff), a smiling cat with one yellow and one pink button eye each.>The scratching stops>Suddenly, from the Dark, a face emerges. One eye pink, one eye yellow, big grin.>It tells Dess that it's a FRIEND>It tells her it knows a way to possibly get out of there.>All she has to do, is make a deal with it and it'll be her humble servant>Darkness embraces them>The Knight steps out, with Friend hovering in the shadows behind>Dess plays her role as The Knight normally, but Friend gives her other instructions, other temptations>They go about messing with the Dark Worlds and spreading Shadow Crystals>They ruin Jevil's mind cause Dess was jealous of him being friends with Seam>They mess with Spamton then abandon him, with him trying to appeal to them again by making himself up to look like FRIEND>They steal the Shadow Mantle and force Kris through a traumatizing "game" to provoke them and get them to fight for real>They do not fuck with Gerson, he's too powerful>And so on>All so the heroes will get the Crystals together and overcome and adversity the Knight could not for some reason>And by doing so, the Knight and FRIEND will eventually steal the Freedom for themselves>Though the Knight doesn't know that once this is over, FRIEND won't need her anymore.
>>527987842Using TP to let out a massive fart blast that lets you jump over attacks
Just found out I lost my job. Can I have some pics of the funny deer character and the human hanging out together? Regular or snowgrave works. It doesn't matter.
In Undertale, you, the player, don't exist, it's either frisk or Chara who's in control depending on what you do, I'm beginning to suspect it's the same in Deltarune, except now it's Kris and Friend. I believe the soul has a direct connect to the friend, the "friend in me" as it were
>>527988009Got none but I hope you good luck on the job hunt.
>>527987627We love our short king
>>527988075Thatโs literally false.
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>>527987804Not so evil when he's busy being fat, sleepy, happy, and eggnant (he is still evil he scams people online)
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im too dumb to theorize
>>527988075>still trying to convince yourself you didn't do genocide routeCome on, anon. Take responsibility for the narrative.
>>527988009Does this count as hanging out?
>>527987997>They steal the Shadow Mantle and force Kris through a traumatizing "game" to provoke them and get them to fight for realI think they're genuinely amused by the Lancer Fan Club and delighted at the chance to interact with Kris.
I wonder what the "You were used up" segment relates to regarding Friend's plan for us. I wonder if its after Kris or the Soul.
>>527987385Dess already did that with Kris
>>527988116>>527988205I still think I'm right when it comes to deltarune
>>527987504In the chapter 4 egg room, one of the philosophers says (scrambled up) "Lost where the forest would grow the children followed the pointed tail. The poor children!" I'm making a small assumption that the lost children in this case are Kris and Dess. The prophecy text says "They'll see the tail of hell take crawl," and as posted last thread, a cut sprite keeps the point.
Beside that, Gaster has 666 motifs and is associated with the Devil, so calling his home (or at least a place deeply associated with him, thanks to the garbage noise) Hell would be fitting. So, the FRIEND, a part of the DEVICE, which is a cat (with a tail), would have the Tail of Hell.
There's more things in here about what traumatized Kris enough to go to therapy and see the forgotten man, but that all just points back to the "forest," what with the trees, and not so much the roots.
>>527988192we know numbers
>>527987685Instructions unclear
Distracted by viro ass
>>527988278We literally get connected to Deltarune through Gaster.
Thatโs canon, in the game.
>>527988334A good thing to be distracted by!
>>527987272>Susie's dad is a big fat asshole dragon with a pointed tail that looks like King's (remember King literally says the same line as Susie and back in ch1 everyone assumed he was a stand-in for her dad)> the poor children followed a pointed tail into the bunker and Dess was lost there, this was a witness report>Susie's dad was assumed to be the killer because of his tail, and exiled from town, but in reality he was innocent and it was FRIEND who did it>FRIEND was summoned by Catti and Noelle hatching a quantum Man Egg inside the Cat Petterz game, and is a demonic entity that tempts people with riches and success by RNG manipulation and also lures them into the deep dark>FRIEND is associated with Susie's Dad's beating chair or whatever in her apartment because Susie's whole life was fucked up by her dad being framed for the incident that was really caused by FRIEND>It's also why Susie is ashamed of her tail
>>527988297the fucking egg room
Of course. the egg rooms are one of the few things i havent gotten around to doing yet and they're of course the only egg rooms where actually good stuff is in. Thank you, anon.
mmmmm...cake...mmmyumyumyym
>>527988009wishing you the best for the future, anon
>>527988505Kinda shocked I havent seen one of these for Spamton and Tenna
>>527988501Why she got her whole doeussy out?
>>527988009Always another job, anon, hang in there
i had a small fave
who had a fat fave
who had a big fave
who gave birth to many faves
mmmm....mmm..msnorfsnorfgmfyjgmgugm
>>527988573There could be one for both of them honestly, three versions counting S.NEO
>>527988601>>527986810Ralsei has worn progressively less clothing since chapter 1 so this is still possible
>>527988601CรUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
>>527988501I know the feeling. Had to do Chapter 3 three times over before I actually found the egg there. At least in chapter 4 it's a lot harder to miss.
>kris dw colors are a reddish color and cyan
>toby loved touching himself to vriska x terezi
>terezi is his fave
>vriska is a flamboyant abuser who takes center stage in the story
>the knight is a sassy powerhouse who takes center stage in the story
>terezi cant live without her abuser who she searches across time and space for after she ditches her
>kris does whatever is needed to find her
>dess
>who is the knight
Moldesster confirmed
>>527988698why does he have aphrodisiacs
>>527988494Everybody thought that Queen was a standin for Carol and look how that turned out.
Him saying the same line as Susie doesnโt make him parallel Susieโs dad, it makes him parallel Susie before she went on an adventure with Kris and Ralsei in the Dark World. She goes from Krisโ bully to standing up for him.
>>527988613because she's supposed to be wearing jeans but because they werent christmas colored I didnt color them (same reason for Asriel's pants there)
>>527988009lost access to most of my shit but this one consistently makes me cackle
What happened to "KRIS DROWNED" like ben drowned or something
When your life has taken toll
And you've lost all self control
And the ocean swallows whole
All your hopes and dreams
I'm the voice inside your soul
That's still with you in the cold
You and I shall never be apart
Don't forget
I'm with you in the dark
>>527988724Waiter, there's a handsome little guy in my salad
Thank you
what would Muffet even do in deltarune? make out with Spamton?
I hope chapter 5 is more forced Suselle interactions so I can spend have the game hearing Noelle scream about how much she wants to tongue punch Susie's fart box while Susie goes "Marriage? What is that some kinda food?"
alright, I've been on long enough i'm starting to get a headache. goodnight, all.
I think Deltarune's omega super-duper secret all eggs and all shadow crystals hyperboss will probably be harder than Sans
>>527988935I was so hoping she'd be the Holiday maid but it turns out that's FUCKING ASGORE
>>527988842i'm a DESS DROWNED believer personally
>"because i'm with you in the dark with your heart as my mark which shall guide you the way through the waves"what else could the waves be?
stronger than you (random ass NPC nobody cares about response)
>>527986642>how they compliment each other or actually care about each other on some deeper level. I'm still not sure if this is actually the point and that it being totally shallow and meaningless is actually a commentarySusie is big and tough. Noelle is small and weak. Susie is loud and rebellious. Noelle is quiet and meek. Susie is dominant. Noelle is submissive. Susie is oblivious and cool. Noelle is needy and obsessed. Susie is independent. Noelle is codependent. Susie is poor and down to earth. Noelle is rich and sheltered. Susie is more free. Noelle is trapped. Susie is a self aggrandizing sadist. Noelle is a self hating masochist. Susie is predator. Noelle is prey. Susie is top. Noelle is bottom. Susie is masculine. Noelle is feminine.
So we're supposed to assume based on "opposites attract", based on fetish porn aesthetics, based on heteronormative dynamics and cliches you've already seen a billion times, based on some idea of mandatory "justice" and revenge.
And yet it just doesn't really work. In fact it ends up seeming so much worse because of this sort of thing. I guess Toby thinks the characters as symbols will mean people will have to like it, that with these cliche themes we'll all just feel compelled to say it has substance. And it's so stacked that we have to wonder how the fuck Susie could be interested in Noelle at all, aside from this fetishy angle of dominance and conquest.
Imagine you nerd character ends up with jock character so surely everyone should love it, right?? No, that's fucking silly.
Strict adherence to these kind of mandatory theming is probably a big reason why romances feel so fucking banal, while friendships come across as much more organic to the point that people just wish they wish romances could be like that too.
>>527988842When you fall into the first Dark World you hear the sound of running water before Kris wakes up.
The song from the sea.
Kris is blue for some reason, people who die from oxygen deprivation (ie drowning) turn blue.
I donโt know if it means Kris drowned before or something, itโs just some things that make people think they might have.
Don't forget is a piano solo
Kris is the one who sings don't forget.
>>527988916Mmm...spamlad...
What if this is an actual prophecy and not just a sign saying this is the "statue gallery"
the crossed out humanoid figure might symbolize a Goner, and the name is in all caps like Gaster stuff.
Also, the negative space kinda looks like a FRIEND but without the smile
>>527988935Sell donuts. The forgotten man is a spider!
>>527989079Imagine you have a nerd character who*
>>527989129>*Temmie is the one who sings don't forget.
>>527989079>So we're supposed to assume based on "opposites attract", based on fetish porn aesthetics, based on heteronormative dynamics and cliches you've already seen a billion times, based on some idea of mandatory "justice" and revenge.wat
>>527988659If you do the spamtenna secret, gifrel will show up in the chapter 5 bakery where spamton will be stress eating over tennaโs death
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>>527988328i have a "undertale revisit" deltarune chapter theory
speaking of muffet what do you guys think she sounds like
>>527989183>GALLERY playing before main boss fights>sounds like Gaster's piano theme>dead pixel in each main boss fighthmm
>>527989183Oh itโs definitely more then โthe heroes have to go to a gallery at one pointโ.
https://youtu.be/L0MAep7ml3A
>>527989129I'm fully expecting a Kris + Dess 'concert just for us' cutscene at some point where they play a duet together.
>>527989209I want to smooch him so bad
>>527989157HEY [INFANT] IT S [4PM]
TIME FOR YOUR [[Beautiful head!]] FLATTENING
All the secret fights that use different SOUL modes have some relation to the original users.
>Spamton NEO - Mettaton NEO
>Hammer of Justice - Undyne
So when blue soul happens it will have some relation to Sans and Papyrus.
Grandpa Semi reveal?
>>527988774The universal mom thing? People are still on that and consider it canon now that toriel drinking is canon.
It's mostly annoying because like... these chapters are going hard on darkners being their own people, so the "universal mom" stuff is just going "actually queen isn't a person with thoughts/feelings or desires, she's just a stand in for all the character's moms."
That and like, so who's mom is the one that loves playing mobile phone games and likes "standing" in rooms via pressing themselves up against two walls? Or who is she imitating when she's digging through ralsei's castle looking for food embedded in the walls?
>>527975309>>527976021Finished it, enjoy the viro ass
https://files.catbox.moe/eqw6kl.png
>>527989450so she sounds like a valley girl?
>>527989256High pitched anime girl voice
>>527989343where are the pixels in Tenna's and the Titan fight
>>527989413>Tenna's weird head shape is due to him trying to flatten his headOh no...
>>527989458I think Toby just intended it as Noelle going from a meek doormat to standing up to someone trying to control her. Same reason the Berdly arc is in chapter 2. I think people trying to turn the Dark Worlds into Silent Hill trauma representations are kinda making stuff up as they go.
>>527989256Kind of like Shinobu from Monogatari.
>>527989476i'd do anything for some viro ass
>>527989476I feel like this viro is trying to tell me something...
>>527989627lmao
>captcha: P8OOP
>>527989458People are still running with that? Why?
>>527989458Oh my god the game literally says darkners are formed from concepts and stuff. Its fiction in universe. Of course its derivative. Susie is mildly inspired by a bully that gave toby a stiffy, does that mean she canโt ever do her own thing? Same with tenna, heโs obviously based in large part on the divorce. But he can still do his own thing. Especially when it comes to other darkners. Spamton or lancers relationship to these people is not really based on anything in particular is it?
>>527986856the fuck is polycule. sounds like something you should see a doctor about
>>527989627I've got me a craving for chicken drumsticks...
>>527989476Wonderful, thank you...but now I'm even more hungry for ass...
>>527989423Grandpa Semi is the eggman
"not to important, not to unimportant"
"room between"
both of those are puns on the word "semi"
and it's a forgotten character who can only speak in a "beta" version of the world (mancountry)
>>527989423Papyrus schizo?
>>527986464 (OP)Why is Kris the only human in Hometown?
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>>527989241just because i don't talk too much about theories doesn't have to mean i have zero theories.
>>527989183it's a prophecy saying there is a gallery, which there is
>>527989803The stork got confused and took them to a monster only town and everyone just ran with it.
>>527989803Kris killed every other human there
>>527989737Polycule means relationship that's more than 2 parties (such as FMF/FFF/MFM/MMM for possible triangles). Also not wrong but I am most biased party.
>>527989476Very spankable anon
>>527989750gote ass > all others
>>527989157Noo Tenna don't cry, i love you the way you are!
Why's it feel like Chapter 3/4 gave us more questions than answers
Only questions it really answered was "What do the Knight and C look like"
>>527989803I think Deltarune takes place in a timeline where the monsters won the war.
Humanity isnโt dead or anything I just think they live relatively segregated.
>>527989627I NEED to see this birb's nuggies get plapped
>>527989921I am an equal opportunity ass enjoyer. But I have nothing against the goat. All asses are wonderful!
>>527989752>tfw you realize that man.ogg has grandpa semi's motif
Toby keeping the characters as monsters in the Light World instead of going with his original "Humans in Light World Monsters in Dark World" concept makes things so much more confusing when you're still playing as a human but everyone else is a monster and it's never explained why.
>>527989967We learned a lot, weโve just been given even more questions, and things have gotten more complicated.
day 5 of waiting for Tenna to arrive, still no progress on the package tracking, im going to lose my mind if he isn't here by the end of the week...
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The whole Hometown is a conspiracy. There are multiple villages like it all over the world. These villages exist only to cultivate human souls.
The roaring knight opens up dark fountains so that the soul can close them and empower itself. It keeps doing this over and over until the soul has grown ripe.
The prophecy is the template these towns use to go through the soul-cultivation process.
Once ripe, the soul will be harvested and used as a weapon by the monsters.
>>527989613All that stuff is there, tenna's personality is based on the family's divorce after all, but treating them as ONLY that aspect of their characters is weird. So where does tenna/mettaton fit into him being a metaphor for the dremurr divorce?
Which is especially weird since even silent hill 2 has a whole "dlc" about maria that talked about who is outside of being a metaphor for jame's wife.
>>527989079Everyone who hates Noelle (and I mean REALLY hates Noelle not just the regular aiieee my ship amount) has some weird hang-ups or headcanons
The first Deltarune character only the mentally stable can enjoy, bravo Toby
>>527990030I hear it, a little. Doesn't that part also play in the traffic jam? The forgotten man is in the traffic jam.
>check utg
>see honryposting slop galore
grimstone.
>>527989967Anon I think you forgot how obnoxious the "Kris is OBVIOUSLY the knight" theories had become
>>527990050Itโs really not that confusing.
Going into the Dark World just changes your colours and gives you a cool outfit and weapon that you want.
Nothing about you changes physically besides that, besides the whole magic thing.
Itโs why the Knight is so mysterious, theyโre definitely fucked up looking in the Light World too.
>>527989183>gallery>as in gallery of rogues, or as in art gallery>Kris went to art therapy and drew the man behind the treeIb reference incoming?
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>>527990141be the change you want to see, ask me a question about the game
>>527989157Cry Tenna because I DONT love you the way you are, I only want to look at you until you are least double your size
>>527990229What is the best ship?
Oh no the Ambyu-Lance stuck a big needle of Antivirus Juice on Virovirokun's butt and completely deflated it to normal size
>>527990141>check /v/>its yet another stealth thread filled with images from r/deltarune that gets deleted in under 400 postsIt could be worse
>>527990229Why are there so few goats? These things have so much sex appeal that by all logic they should be swarming the world.
The knight is the forgotten brother of the Holiday family, Nicholas Holiday
Carol accidentally killed him and is trying to cover it up
>Rudy is the knight
It's dess, not rudy.
>>527990252That's a bit harsh, you should let him associate eating food with positive feelings...
>>527989050>what else could the waves beWaves were the battles, and the battles were waves.
>>527990102Itโs not just that, Tennaโs the way he is because he was physically around for all the shit that happened in the Dreemurr house. He wouldnโt have abandonment issues if everybody didnโt stop gathering around him as a family.
>>527990301dont fuckin joke about that
>>527989368>plays in chapters 1, 2, 4>doesn't play in chapter 3why?
>>527990301I kinda wanna see Viro with an above average juicy sized butt but not an obscenely massive dumptruck like all these fanarts recently give 'em
>>527989752Why would Grandpa Semi be giving Kris eggs?
>>527990330>The Knight is the secret holiday brother who Carol accidentally ran over>Ralsei is the secret Dreemurr brother Asgore accidentally roasted in the oven to dry off after a bathIs there a secret Cattenheimer brother too
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>>527990258asriel x chara/frisk
ralsei x kris
goats x humans
>>527990327we have no idea what the deltarune world looks like outside of hometown, so there could in theory be alot of goats in the deltarune world
Should I draw fat assed short stacks viro with a fat juicy and plump pussy lips :thinking:
>>527990448I stand by my โweโre going to go back to the Dreemurr house Dark World because we were explicitly told the whole place was totally different before Tenna took overโ thing and that thereโs an actual boss who just didnโt show up during the Chapter.
>>527990481>Is there a secret Cattenheimer brother tooFRIEND.
>>527990086I [HACKERMANED] into your [ORDER NOW] rerouting him to my [TRASH HEAP], now he wonโt be [CUMMING FROM YOUR HOUSE]
>>527990576>still no way to confirm if Ramb the powerstrip is physically gone from the Dreemurr householdERAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
The goat is the animal of Satan, a creature which is the parallel of the lamb of a spirit of oppression and wickedness compared to a spirit of love. Toriel, the goat monster, abandoning the church to do debauchery with the skeleton - the figure of death - is intentional. Toriel is the Antichrist, and (YOU) are the angel to set the house right.
>>527990463I believe this is what you want
>>527990127They would hate her if she weren't interested in romance, or didn't play some kind of subordinate role to Susie
>>527990797Just a little thicker
>>527990792I think these posts are way funnier after that thread a few days ago where half the general revealed they came from broken homes. No wonder Sans upset you guys so much.
>>527990939The problem is not in he who tempts, but in those who gives in to temptation. Sans is still really funny as fuck lmao. Hell yeah man, fuck that goat
So Alphys wanted to feed a cat, but then was filled with regret when she saw a cat drinking her milk saucer. ...What did she expect? We never saw a single non-sapient animal, it's been either monsters or darkners.
How the hell is Tobert going to fit all these locations as Dark Worlds in three chapters
>Noelle's house
>Flower King
>Susie's apartment
>Kris's House (True Form)
>Maybe the Festival
>The Shelter
>>527990939Dude I've been saying this for years. People use Toriel and Asgore as proxies for their own parents. It's why people so desperately wanted them back together at the end of Undertale
>>527991050Toriel makes pancakes. She's not using Berdly's eggs and her own milk.
>>527991064Simple: the darkness will consume the earth. Chapter 6 will be an open world darkworld of the entire town occuring during the roaring
>>527990887>Headcanon caused by weird hang-ups
>>527991079i'm not certain anyone did, they just wanted toriel to stop being mean to him
in ut he was fine being friends
>>527991064The middle of town will get a dark fountain in chapter 5. Carol and the Knight manipulate Asgore into making one. Screencap this.
>>527991050Does Annoying Dog count as a regular animal or is that technically still a monster somehow?
>>527991138Well she's buying from the store, where THEY get those is up for debate
>>527991079See I just wanted them back together at first because I think divorce is a very ugly thing, but I think theyโre just completely incompatible at this point. Toriel just keeps dipping whenever Asgore fucks up, whether he means to or not.
Dude should move on.
>>527991202thats GOD, anon
People who say Kris's gender is vague to be more relatable are getting it completely backwards, Kris being non-binary makes them less relatable to most players and that's a good thing because Kris is not the player.
>>527991064Chapter 5 will be longer than 1+2+3+4 combined
>>527991191I was there for the Torigori shipping wars man
It was hell
>>527991064I am somewhat convinced chapter 7's hometown will be lost in darkness and will involve a multitude of smaller warped dark worlds before the finale.
>>527991202Annoying Dog exist both in the Light World and the Dark World, so it's some sort of cryptid or some shit.
>>527991064>Noelle's house>Susie's apartmentnot much forshadowing those places being dark worlds
>Maybe the Festivaloutside, doesn't really make sense
>>527991279I believe it will be long, maybe not THAT long but long. Theres a reason Toby couldn't finish it in time
>>527991212Sans gets them from his Grandpa.
>Where he does get those?From behind the tree, duh.
>>527990626NOOOOOOO!!!!! YOU LITTLE MAILMAN SHIT!!
Kris and Dess are both knights and the penultimate boss fight before the final boss.
>don't really get super sad over Asgoriel and just want them to have happier lives for the sake of themselves and their family
>feel bad and want Spamtenna to get back together but learn from their mistakes and grow as a throuple with me
I am gay and retarded
>chapter 7
>asriel comes home from college
>"Hey Kris, check this out"
>makes a fountain
>>527991138>her own milkdo you think she breastfed Kris when he was a toddler?
>>527991064i don't understand why people think the festival will be a dark world.
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>>527991478Toriel kept her breast milk in bottles for Asriel in the fridge once he started teething but Kris got into the supply for himself since he liked the breastmilk - when asked about this Kris blamed Asgore and thats why they got divorced
>>527990904I spat out my air
>>527991565They think Asgore is going to have a mental breakdown and make a Dark World. I dont buy it and since when could you make a Dark World outside in the daylight anyways? They've always been indoors.
I get why Kris does much less damage to the Knight during the boss fight since theyโre working with it but why do they start doing more damage once Susie and Ralsei get Swoonโd?
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>>527991478obviously
better question: when did she stop
>>527991402>Chapter 6 finale>(You) in Vessel, Susie and Ralsei VS Kris and the Knight, convince Kris to rejoin the Fun Gang for chapter 7>Alternate route lets you join Kris, and instead you play as Kris, The Knight and Ralsei against Susie but get an early ending because the prophecy is fulfilled instead of being broken like how the Lord of the Hammer ended at chapter 6Would this be Kino and Ludo and whatever other superlatives there are
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>>527991771she still holds his hand when they go to school together, so...
Tenna but he goes through a spoid phase after getting back together with Spamton (for the 97th time) and gets the tattoo
>>527991685They actually like Susie and Ralsei so they still get a little pissed off
Krisselle fans are doomed to be labeled as bigots for all eternity.
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>>527991661I think we should start thinking outside the box since Toby did a lot of things we didn't predict. Just because every dark world has been inside doesn't mean all of them will be. Besides, it could happen at night, too.
>>527991685Our desperation makes him hit harder. Literally us going "Kris you better start locking the fuck in RN NIGGER"
So can a ghost lightner fuse with a darkner? What would happen when they exist the dark world? Death? I have no mouth and I must scream? Or determination fuckery?
>>527991891would you rather be a bigot or a rapist
>>527991685Is that real? I thought it was a hoax
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>>527992000i see trips in your postnumber, nice.
>>527991891NOWS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG OT
>>527991685Kris thought that the knight would stand down once his friends are SWOONed. It doesn't, so Kris goes "oh shit".
>>527991927If we're going by Undertalian Ghost Metaphysics then I think the Lightner Ghost would then just be fused with whatever real world object they fused with within the Dark World, and turn back into the Lightner-Darkner fusion upon re-entering a Dark World
So if Mettaton fuses with Tenna he'll be a cool(?) android with two minds in the Dark World but just a TV in the Light World
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>>527992063Nice 2023 /utg/ meme
I want Berdly, Catti and Jockington to be playable. So they and Ralsei can watch the stupid Dreemur/Holiday/Dess drama happen while standing awkwardly around
>>527991269This would make the game better if it's the case but so far nothing particularly favors nonbinary over ambiguous
Maybe in a future chapter
Lets say I go into the Dark World and while inside, I cut off my hand. Is that hand now a Darkner and does it come to life?
>>527992245Thank you I worked really hard on it
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>>527992236Like a floating TV with a face and everything? Or just trapped inside TV with no way to interact with outside world?
I want Asriel to show up in the Dark World unexpectedly and his Dark World form looks kind of like Hyperdeath Asriel and he fights with you (Forma de Vessel) side by side against the Knight and Kris.
>>527992260>Berdly, Catti and Jockington join the party>Get a full party swap screen and ability to equip each character with dialogue for each item>By the end of the very same screen something so awkward happens that they all leave the party permanently
>>527991772The joke I would do with this is you're on susie/ralsei's side, but you can't act since you're just a disembodied soul, so after dodging kris' attacks they have to act without your input.
>Dodge his attacks>Susie and ralsei tried to flirt with kirs... they aren't very good at it {+5 spare}>Dodge his attacks but take damage>Susie heals/ralsei lies down and asks kris if they want to push him {+3 spare}Though I'd have a secret end of the fight where you purposefully kamikaze damage till susie/ralsei go sown and kris surrenders in order to not kill them, like toriel at the beginning of undertale.
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>>527992343It won't become a darkner unless you seal and reopen the fountain, since then your perception of it as an object and no longer part of yourself will update in the light world
>TV-sized dinner portions
yummy...
>>527991891if I cared what twitter lesbians called me I wouldn't be one in the first place
>>527992442Toby wouldn't be so cruel would he?
>>527992506Interesting. Then my next question is, why dont your clothes come to life? Instead they warp and shift into equipment.
>>527992442Toby... don't do this for a cruel joke...
>>527992343Once fountain is already open, a dark world hand is just a hand. Your equipment do not become darkners when you throw them out, after all. (the reverse is possible, see: Lancer)
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>X-Slash is actually Kris and Dess's combo attack
>>527992442I'm still waiting for Lancer to join our party
Monster Kid and Snowy join the party, even though nobody wants that
It's funny how every straight male character is presented as a pathetic joke or a victim of some sort except Gerson. He's just built different.
>>527992570They're still considered a part of your person and not separate enough to be a darkner. A shirt lying in your drawer could be a darkner, just not the one you're wearing.
What I'm interested in is what items become equipment/items/etc and not darkners. Is it because they are only seen as "usable" by a lightner as opposed to something with its own will and personality?
>>527992570not everything in dark worlds turn into characters, it seems somewhat arbitrary what things do or don't
what happens if you take an object that is definitely a darkner and not equipment and wear them into a dark world
ie, ralsei goes to the light world and turns into the headband, kris goes back in while wearing said headband
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>>527992683Sans is plowing your mom, what are you on about mate
>>527992458Susie can still hear your commands even if Kris isn't present. See: downed Kris battles, absent Kris solo Susie battles, solo Susie solving puzzles, etc. She just ignores them if she does not like them.
>>527992729in that case then kris would just enter a dark world with ralsei on his head. you can see this with lancer and kris's pants hole
>>527992683i don't remember there being anything wrong with the dogi
>>527992717>>527992729Very interesting, thank you. And I imagine in that second post scenario you'd "seperate" as the transition occurs, since the card castle objects enter Castle Town as flickering bits of light back in Chapter 2.
>>527991269I think the problem is that with any concrete answer you validate someone's self-inserting in a way that giving no answer doesn't (1). Think of everyone that advocates for it on the premise of "representation" (2).
>1Everyone's simultaneously correct and wrong because there's no right/wrong answer vs a hard correct answer = it's right to self-insert him.
>2A huge portion of representation is about having heroes for the parties that don't feel seen. Giving them an idol they can self-insert/inspire to be.
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Was it ever explained why all darkners can exist in castle town?
It took me a bit long to fully realize. I didnt see the cleft chin or little facial hair or whatever it is on Ramb's chin, and maybe i was blinded by what i thought was fancy hair and the accent but I thought Ramb was a cute pluggirl at first instead of a plugboy. I was a bit disappointed that I ended up not getting by super british shopkeeper lady that calls me "luv"
>>527992729You get Ralsei equipped, but Ralsei can permanently leave your inventory at any time he wants and turn into a fluffy boi.
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>>527992907"Castle Town's Fountain is made of pure darkness" according to Ralsei.
I dont trust him I think there's a fucking leak from the Shelter or something, why the fuck is the most important most pure fountain in the school supply closet?
>>527992907You bring their objects to the broom closet. If you're wondering why they don't turn to stone it's because the fountain is more concentrated there than the others.
"Castle Town's Grand Fountain is made of pure darkness.
As long as it stays flowing, any Darkner can live there."
>>527992919That's apparently not as uncommon a thing as you'd think, picrel
>>527992989It would make sense that the school have emergency tunnel to the Shelter.
>>527992989i might headcanon that castle town can accomodate any darker due to not having any sort of setting or theme for them to not fit in to, since it's in a supply closet with absolutely no sentimental value to anyone
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There are people who cannot beat the knight. Think about this
>>527992919I thought Ramb was a sweet old grandma, yeah. But now I read his dialogue like Ringo Starr
Anons what would you do if you had another person inside you trying to control you?
>>527993102But who made it? Has it just been sitting undiscovered for years? That's what Ralsei made it sound liklike. But if someone made it recently, surely Ralsei would have encountered them or know about them.
I'm still on my crack theory that Ralsei's object form is the horns, and he was lost in the Shelter when Kris was younger.
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>>527993169A Friend Inside Me?
>>527993169Anon, every person have that. It's called "brain".
>>527992919i hate to admit i got bamboozled into thinking the same thing at first
>>527990389you deserve better, marathonbro
at least you've got deltarune
>>527992907Castle town is a storage room, so all sorts of things "belong" there. Lancer and Rouxls turn to stone in the library dark world because playing cards don't belong in a library computer room, but they don't turn to stone in the dark world based on a spare classroom or a family home because those are places where you would except to find playing cards. If Ralsei is based on an object it would be the sort of object one would take anywhere, so he never turns to stone.
That's my theory anyway.
>>527993268thats not another person, thats just you
>>527993169You are a collection of chemical responses piloting a meat mecha
>>527993239"Horns" theory got a major blow against in ch3-4.
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Ralsei was gonna tell us what he was but Susie interrupted him. So it's not something he's hiding
>>527993324If that were true the remote Kris stole wouldn't have turned to stone since that remote fit in with the TV world. I think the petrification rules as we know them will end up getting clarified further in later chapters.
>>527992683What'd Jockington ever do to you, man?
>>527993324lancer does turn to stone in kris's house though
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>527993465Jockington is a joke character. No one has ever liked him non-ironically, including you.
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>>527992683>Gerson>straightHe had Jackenstein doing maid role play for him
So where did all this goat-posting/asriel-posting come from? thats like half of this thread of just images of him
Toby does have a tendency to repeat character archetypes. We have two "nerd girl x tough tomboy" ships and like three or four "loser guy who thinks everyone is hitting on him or tries to hit on everyone but everyone is disgusted by him"
Ralsei being the horns is funny to me within the context of chapter 2 and 3 and making kris say they REALLY want to go to the festival with ralsei.
I need art of kris wearing the headband around the festival, getting on the ferris wheel by themselves and just sitting stone faced as it goes around. Toriel even notices and is sorta weirded out seeing kris wearing them again, meanwhile ralsei is in a mind palace blushing/freaking out because kris is essentially taking him on a date.
>>527993327Here's an old Soviet cartoon where a girl's body rebels against her: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4PyQUUERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPL5Hkl11IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobVFldn6As
Which do you prefer?
>>527993324I still don't get why Ramb turns to stone
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>>527993574we love our hubby asriel
>>527993630
Holy shit I finally fucking did it
>>527993540>he didn't talk to Jockington in chapter 4That snake is a true bro and a better person than you.
>>527993590You did not just compare Burger Pants to Rouxls, did you? Anyway, who are the other one or two?
>>527993540He said that he respects my game for sticking by Susie even if it makes me the world's enemy so I like him unironically
>>527993637Ruder buster mogs both.
>>527993630where/how do you even find this
I will say if Toby makes Bratty and Catty a couple instead of best friends I will understand the pain. I love Catty.
>>527993672now do it mantleless
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>>527993672Now do a no hit for Kris' coughing fit.
>>527993717Berdly and Aaron
Rouxls got a W recently though so maybe he's out of the club
>>527993649The "original" game's screen glow keeps his left half from petrifying, so there's that. If you don't play, he's fully petrified by that time.
Do you think Kris would sacrifice Susie to bring back Dess?
>>527993649>Kris played with him as a child but he lost his purpose when Kris grew up (possibly because he's a British power strip which makes him useless in an American home)>The side of him that faces the TV World where he was never useful or wanted is petrified>The side of him that faces the game, which is tied to Kris's childhood and the person they used to be before Dess disappeared, is alive
>>527993540i like jockington unironically and know he's one of the most important characters in the game and will feature heavily in chapter 5.
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can't stop thinking about Tenna...
>>527993919your pic sounds like cope, but I love your cope and support it
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the four faves of the favepocalypse
I love seeing SNEO/Tenna art, especially stuff like this
Why didn't Lanino or Lanina or Jackenstein drink Almond Milk
>>527993904If we don't "educate" him? Yes.
>>527993769>>527993837If it turns out you need to do it mantleless for the good ending, I'll put the dog down myself.
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>>527993904Maybe at first. Now? I dont know. He seems to genuinely like her and comes across as torn about his promise at the end of chapter 4.
>>527994071Most likely you'll lose Nubert, and Castle Town won't have a game console. That's it.
>>527994080Thanks for posting with me, fren!
Can't wait for Susie to find out Kris was doing shit behind her back and we get a kino friend fight and the return of Vs. Susie
>>527993983The Lighting Is Swag And The Shading Is YOLO But These Pathetic Scbimbrlo Men Look Rather: Underfed
Please Correct This
>>527993919Catti being jealous of Susie because of Noelle is a red herring
The real jealousy will come from Kris keeping the Dark Worlds a secret from her but sharing them with Susie, and this will make Susie feel like top dog until she finds out that Kris was actually working with the Knight this entire time
>>527993904that was the original plan, kris just fucked it up by getting attached to her and now he doesn't know what to do
not that it was possible to avoid getting attached
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i have been goteposting for about 40 minutes straight now, i am thinking i stop myself here, i need to go to the grocery store anyhows, thank you for posting with me goatfren, i wish you a continued good day, see you later! :)
>>527994172lol i was just about to stop posting too, thank you bye bye
>>527993574Tbf he is very hot
>>527989545I havent seen one in tenna's yet but there's a stray pixel in the wrecked church after the titan
ok but why is ramb british
>>527993291>>527993052>>527993162thank god i can draw whatever the fuck i want
>>527993393worth the headbutt
I don't think Kris was going to jump to die, a jump from the second story wouldn't kill them. Probably just going to run away from home and do something
>>527994232Tenna has a dead pixel on his screen in the fight. Cute beauty mark...
>>527993983>Tenna is Conquest because he wants to overtake all other media>King is War because duh>Spamton is Famine because he is unemployable>Ramb is Death because he didn't even get to do shit before dying
>>527993983These are all HELLA based, except king. Awesome art.
>>527987460I had a dream about Ralsei, I almost forgot but your post made me remember thank you!
>>527993983Once A Weirdo
Always A Weirdo
*Sips Tea*
>>527994353I figured Kris wanted to go out and follow Susie but then gets pulled back by the Evil Phone and it was like a torn between two loyalties sort of thing
>>527994185Spamton's the only one there who isn't a fat fuck
>>527994336If that is the S rank treatment I wonder that the Z rank treatment would be
>>527994372None of them will be Famine on my watch.
>>527993993I agree...it's fun to see Spamton somehow closer in size but either more or less dominant.
>>527994539yeah i thought this was obvious and was surprised that people were interpreting it as a suicide thing
he's going to talk to susie (probably to confess) but then he gets the REMEMBER YOUR PROMISE call and is caught between his double trucies
Even the wokest of the woke youtuber/streamers will "mistakenly" refer to Kris as a he only to be corrected by their chat and go "oh whoops my mistake of course of course how could I forget duh of course they are non binary yes of course of course."
>>527994639>people were interpreting it as a suicide thingWhat? That interpretation never occurred to me until now because its fucking stupid. Kris could easily survive that fall anyways and if he was going to kill himself he would use that knife he has on him 24/7.
>>527986685drew this yesterday
https://files.catbox.moe/xfyjl3.jpg
just thought the soul should be on this team too
I also have a fun idea to draw Kris trying to make a dark world in some fucked up place, like a sex store or a room after a furry orgy, while Susie tries to stop them
Maybe someone has better suggestions for this scenario
>>527994713susie has it by that point
New theory.
I see it commonly referred to as The Soul but let's reframe it to be The Angel. Ralsei has basically said that we're ultimately going to banish the angels heaven in the end but that would also include us The Soul/Angel. He still needs our help to get to the end but this might explain why he constantly sends us away so he can talk to Kris alone, so they can make a plan to deal with us when the time comes. Additionally this would also make sense for why Ralsei tries to get Spamton to shut up about cutting the strings because we The Soul/Angel are watching and Ralsei doesn't want us to learn how.
>>527994747Wait did she never give it back?
>>527994545nuh uh according to Reliable Internet Sources (Me, DeviantArt) they are practically wasting away and this will not do at all. get the SpinCakes
>>527994703I feel like you're inventing things in your head in order to get upset at them
>>527994735cute kris balls and butthole
>>527994639Beyond anything, his room is only on the second floor. Hell, my brother's use to play a "game" where they'd jump off the roof of the shed onto the ground, and that'd be the same height as kris' room.
As long as you don't land on your neck it's kind of impossible to die from 1 story up.
>>527994765not onscreen, no
>>527994735Thanks for posting it, I missed it yesterday.
Also that poor bed
>>527994775I'm just watching a lot of Deltarune videos/streams. It's very amusing watching nearly everyone slip up and call Kris a he at some point.
Isnt all Deltarune shipping inherently NTR? The characters dont want to fuck You (the soul), they want to fuck each other.
>>527994841Huh, I guess I just figured Kris got it back. I wonder what kind of scenes toby has in mind if she still has the knife?
Every single character design ever made is improved by making it a woman
>>527994713Some were at the time, was also when it was heavy into the Mom NTR interpretation due to how soundbites lined up to a drunk goat getting boned. Another aspect to consider is that we might not also know how long a fall would need to be to be fatal (you think we have experience dropping 5 feet?).
>>527994906Weird, I'm watching tons of streamers too and it hasn't come up at all.
I don't care about overworld sprites and they're GAY.
> Kris is a few inches shorter than Susie
> Kris is also taller than Noelle, Berdly and Ralsei
Here's your canon heights.
https://files.catbox.moe/tbwbll.mp4
>>527994978Sorry, Buddy
But That isnt How It Works
You Cant Improve Perfection
>>527994978wrong
femralsei sucks
>>527995039>(you think we have experience dropping 5 feet?).I mean I do, I remember doing that kind of thing all the time as a kid. Kris is still young and spry his knees can still take it.
>>527995072TRVTHNUKE.
In all my Kriselle art I always draw Kris like almost a head taller than Noelle...
Also I make Kris as twice a broad as her to really show that masculine and feminine difference between them.
For /jp/ anons: how well do the jokes translate? Any major changes? How was the general reception?
>>527990086Anon did you actually order a CRT?
>>527995087>.mp4>Also only audioBruh
>>527994978What about Kris?
>>527995072Canon height is great because Spamton feels fucking horrifying in being able to crush kris' skull between his teeth like a horror movie.
>>527994917>The characters dont want to fuck You (the soul)*blocks your path*
>>527994841>inb4 SOULless Kris goes to retrieve the knife from Susie at night>voice, gait, mannerisms, speech patterns are all different>Susie gets suspicious>Culminates in Susie saying "You aren't Kris, are you? Who are you?"
>>527994978Hard to improve on perfection...
>>527995229It's a video Anon.
>>527995279susie's retarded ass would NOT figure it out even if kris outright told her
>>527994978>Every single character design ever made is improved by making it a femboyfixed
>>527995149>femralseiso regular ralsei?
>>527995217no...i ordered a bodypillow and it still hasn't arrived...
>>527995372What about Ralsei?
>>527995246>>527995072That reminded me that Papyrus is like 5'7
>>527995341Susie is street-smart. She quickly figured out that something is going on on the weird route, before the glitch resets it.
>>527995403What about Ralsei? What else does he need? A fluffier chest?
>>527995505I think Ralsei could do with a new hat
So what the hell is the deal with Kris' Hand? Lot of hand imagery in general, but with the 1225 gachapon room, it's getting hard to ignore. Did he kill someone with said hand? Did his hand get cut off and replaced with something else, or healed by unnatural means? Does he have a demon living inside it like some chuuni? The fuck is going on?
Susie will be the end boss of a major chapter, specifically chapter six as hinted by Gerson saying she holds the white pen of hope and can write what happens in the sixth chapter. There's no denying this, I fear.
She will reconcile with Kris in the normal route and die in the weird route.
Anyway, bosses are:
Chapter 5: Asgore
Chapter 6: Susie
Chapter 7: Dess
Chapter 7 Weird: Kris
Chapter 8: Noelle
reminder that femboys and twinks belong to tomboys and mean girls
dessriel and ralsie are the endgames
>>527994917No, people ship characters without self-inserting. Fujos exist for a reason
>>527995402Oh based as hell, post pics when you have it
>>527995582I think each chapter he should have progressively less clothing
Any drawanons willing to make a Tenna version of this thanks in advance
The map sprites are fake, Kris is actually as tall as a truck and extra muscular and has big boobs and Susie is small enough to sleep in a shoebox
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meh...im trying to combine Tenna with Filip from Maya Bee, man i forgot how bad i am at this...
>>527995658When we'll see his tail?
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>another /v/ Deltarune thread was deleted
VERY INTERESTING
THEIR LOSS IS ALL BUT CERTAIN
AND YET
THEY PERSIST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nVxMBaJKP4
Holy fuck
>>527995613My theory is he lost it during the Shelter incident but it got replaced with a copy from a Goner.
I think Kris always uses the same hand (his right) to rip out his soul, if so, that's the hand that got replaced and it's what actually allows him to dig into himself and pull out the Soul.
> Weird Route ending
> YOU got your vessel...
> YOU encounter Kris in what's essentially will be the last corridor of Deltarune
> He finally got his soul back...
> He is filled with sheer hatred of YOU...
> That hate is filling how with DETERMINNATION to stop YOU...
> A yellow save file appears near Kris
> He saves, overwriting YOUR save file
> Fight starts
> GADOBADORRER starts playing
Kino?
burgerpants: slightly buchhy
icecream man: fucking jacked
>this is what susiefags are into
What if Kris made a Dark World in a room with a copy of Marathon: Infinity?
What would Mjolnir Recon No. 54 with Durandal do?
>>527995613Okay let's think logically here. This is what we know about Kris:
1. Family: Toriel, Asgore, Asriel. Childhood friends: Noelle and Dess by proxy of her being Noelles sister and Asriels friend.
2. Kris was always a trouble maker and liked playing pranks, specifically scaring Noelle.
3. Kris used to play the piano.
4. Something at some point happened to Dess.
5. Asriel leaves for college.
6. Kris started acting weak and dejected.
7. Kris stopped playing the piano.
8. Kris is working with The Roaring Knight.
We can infer that the reason Kris most likely stopped playing the piano is in relation to whatever happened with Dess which in turn could be in relation to whatever happened to their hand. Maybe an injury has prevented them from playing the piano like they used to. When they play the piano in chapter 4, they fuck up the first time and Susie pressures them to play for real. I don't think Kris was playing poorly on purpose, I think an injury is hampering their ability to play properly.
>>527996007>picDess did that already
>>527995963KRIS STOLE MY BOYS HAND?
>>527996038Susie is just diet Dess.
>>527995963Whatever The Incident was, I'm certain it had something do do with his hand, and I'm also sure it has something to do with him pulling out the soul using it, literally reaching inside himself without even damaging his clothing.
>>527995965> GADOBADORRER Oh god I real hope so, Kris is literally just a re-take on Varik, if not just Kris' being Varik's son or something
>>527993940SMOOCH SMOOCH HUFF KISS HUG SNIFF
So uhhhhh where the hell is Kris's original soul?
>>527995965If you lose can you only do the fight again if you delete the save and complete a whole new save file?
Alright Alright. I wanna know opinions. All characters in Undertale/Deltarune are now girls. Which one is the best girl now, according to your own judgement.
Guts = Susie
Griffith = Dess
Casca = Kris
Demons watching the rape = FRIENDS
>>527995442see gote
post gote
>>527996275He always has been a soulless 0 personality faggot
>>527996280I will never forget nor forgive 4chan for throwing her away in chapter 2 after lusting after her in chapter 1.
>>527996027I agree that everything stems back to The Incident, but you're inferring stuff that may or may not be true at all, just conjecture. I will say that your second point is unlikely to be true - Kris plays just fine after ripping us out at Noelle's house, and you can play the song Susie gives him completely fine until the very last note. Also, Kris slams vigourously down on the keys, he doesn't try to play at all.
>>527995613>>527995963>Rudinn in the Chapter 3 egg room: "Copies are monochrome, until you color them in.">Washing Kris's hands after painting in the Chapter 4 egg room: "Between your fingers, a faint gray crease glittered stubbornly." "...You can never wash it all away."
>>527996379People love Susie after Chapters 3+4. Her stock has never been higher.
>>527995627but the femboys and twinks are all fucking gay :(
So on the Weird route. Kris throws the heart in the cabinet under the sink and then visits Noelle to remove the thorn ring and try to tell her things are gonna be alright. The tires still get slashed. In the normal route they obviously don't need to visit Noelle, so where do you think they went? The amount of time left is the exact same.
>>527990060>We learned a lotLike what? That Kris and Ralsei aren't the Knight?
The homosexuals are awake
>>527996383The first time you interact what the big piano Kris fucks it up. Either intentionally or not. Susie then asks Kris to play normally because she was told they can. Yes you can play just fine but in that specific scene KRIS is playing, control is taken away, all other instances are YOU playing.
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>oh... uhh... sorry Noelle. But i'm not really into girls like that. I don't see why we still can't be friends though. Right?
>>527996391AH, nice catch. It's always the little details, the specific wordings. Of course, it's referring to the graphite, which is why it glitters, but that could be a good interpretation.
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>>527996453not all of us...
>>527996548We learned Dustners are a thing
We learned about the true prophecy
We learned the Roaring Knight's goal isn't necessarily the Roaring
>>527996560Yeah but the real fags are over on /v/ arguing about twitter.
>>527996479I thought they did it after the TV Dark World at some point before they wake up the next morning. I guess when they were meant to be washing their hands makes more sense though as it was the middle of the night and Noelle probably wouldn't be awake.
where can I find a girl like this?
>>527996052Vessel....Vess.....Dess
omg, dess was a vessel
>>527996661local women jail
BOOHOO I AM KRIS AND DESS AND SUSIE'S SMELLY PUSSIES RULE OVER MY FUCKING LIFE ABLOOBLOOBLOO
>>527996593>"But I already have Kris as a friend, why would I need another one?"
>>527996586Sorry, I'm a bit confused here - what point are you arguing? I'm saying that it's not because of an injury that Kris fucks up playing.
>>527996661Nowhere unfortunately. Modern culture has completely destroyed women.
>>527996290It'll be like omega flowey, BUT with a choice to either let Kris win or beat him, which will result in two slightly different endings
>Kris is obviously the knight! Was the big thing after 2
>Was wrong
>Dess is obviously the knight! is the new thing after 3/4
>>527996661In fiction and nowhere else.
>>527996784And I think Kris does have an injury. It might not even be related to the incident. There's blood on the floor, always carrying a knife, bites their own hand when questioned about piano stuff. When they finish playing the big song they even collapse on the piano. Kris isn't well to begin with and there is clearly something wrong with their hand.
>>527996858They are both Knights and you are getting fucking wrecked by X-Slash during their boss fight.
>>527996858The Kris Knight believers were wrong about Kris being the Knight but they were still right about a lot of things.
>>527996858so why the fuck did her sword look like a baseball bat at first
>>527996940>bites their own hand when questioned about piano stuff.that's because they need to shut (You) up in any way possible
it's obvious they're still very passionate about the piano, on the normal route they force a cough out so they can't say it and on snowgrave they just bite
I bet her donut and meow meow taste sweet like nectar
Time for autistic pattern recognition
Every chapter's either secret boss or main boss hints at the next boss
>Spade King hints at Queen in Chapter 2
>Spamton hints at Tenna in Chapter 3
>The Knight hints at the Titan in Chapter 4
Chapter 5 will be a boss with some similarity to Gerson, an armored warrior, so Asgore. More support for the "Boss3" thing. Hopefully he has something more interesting going for him because just doing Undertale again would be a little
underwhelming.
>>527997075You can be passionate about something you can't do anymore Anon.
>>527994169Losing Nubert would be a fate worse than death
>>527997095* Tastes like Rotten Gl-ASS.
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>>527997054Same reason you have PURIFIED against the titan spawn
>>527997125How does The Knight hint at the Titan?
>>527997095>You felt something hovering close behind your head.
>>527997125>Spade King hints at Queen in Chapter 2No, it was Jevil who mentions Queen.
>SOON, THE "QUEEN" RETURNS, AND HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS...
Cutscenes in Deltarune are Diagetic and switch between all characters who are capable of having a SOUL, I.E being able to be controlled by the player (Susie, Noelle, Roaring Knight)
Ralsei uses this in-universe quirk to sneak information to Kris without the Player being aware of it
>>527997197Both pure black creatures of darkness, and the Knight directly shows up to make the Titan.
>>527996940Kris plays multiple songs on the piano back to back at Noelle's house. His hand isn't physically injured. Yeah, there's definitely something wrong/odd with it, but it's not something that mundane.
As for why I personally think he's fucking it up (different argument), I think it's because he doesn't want an audience (including us) while he plays, for whatever reason. He's pissed when he fucks it up in front of Susie because it makes him look like he can't play it. It's only at Susie's urging that he finally does play. I think his movements and slumping at the end are more from a great emotional release/catharsis, and that the issue with playing stems from mental roots, not physical ones. Which also ties back to the CH4 Egg room, he's in therapy.
>>527997135yea, but Kris is also still very obviously great at piano, playing the big plot one in the church and then the good handful of songs he plays in the kitchen
>>527997226NEEDS RAPE CORRECTION
>>527997226The GOAT
Gay
Oily
Anime
Twink
>>527996301Still Spamton and Tenna.
>>527997252Not talking about dialogue but thematically or in terms of aesthetics.
>>527997243soft and bouncy
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quick jack cause he was supposed to be included but didn't fit in the canvas
>>527996940>>527997287Its a reference to mr toberts wrist injuries
i've forgotten about this project for solid 2 days...
>>527997394I love funky pumpkin man
Using one of the silliest/happiest people in the setting to teach you how to play one of the biggest antagonists was neat too
>>527997425Rudy isnt sassy enough
Kris made Noelle watch The Blob (1988) with him and then set up a trap that dumped hot slime on her when she left the room
>>527997425https://youtu.be/KWdt93AGz-c?feature=shared
>>527997263I wouldn't consider either of those things hints. With Jevil I can predict there will be a character called Queen easily. With Spamton it's obvious there will be a character called Tenna. The Knight just showing up would've never had me predicting Titan, it just doesn't feel like it fits.
>>527997287>>527997296Brother is FLAILING on that shit at Noelles. They hesitate and make mistakes. There's hesitations, micro pauses, mistimings. It still sounds good but it's exactly the kind of issues someone that's GOOD would suffer from if they had an injury that prevented them from playing 100%
>>527997425i believe in toby, he has the mandate of heaven, dessknight and krusie or no romance ending, thats all i ask for toberto-san
>>527997394When Susie said that she's not sure how we'll smuggle him into Castle Town my heart sank
Free my boy
>>527997426I was waiting for that to be brought up, this is referenced in CH4 by Gerson IIRC in a more general sense as something holding you back from accomplishing your dreams - I remember something about trying to fly with only one wing, and realising you can fly with no wings at all. Anyway, while it's definitely got something to do with the debacle, I doubt he's self-inserting THAT literally.
>>527997476>U SULDN'T COME HEREI cheered, I shouted, I fist-pumped the air, I cried, I stood and cheered.
Who says Jevil was talking about Queen from Chapter 2 and not a Titan Queen
>>527997426I thought this was stupid at first, but a guy who's entire identity is his music would probably find his hands failing him harrowing enough to think about constantly
>>527997582This also compounds with the idea that Kris probably suffers from some sort of anxiety on this and why they don't want anyone to watch them play. Only pressureed by Susie do they go all out. The time at Noelles is off screen so nobody can see the struggle.
>>527997426They/them my ass Kris is both Varik 2.0 and Toby's self insert
>>527997560The Roaring graphic that Ralsei shows in Chapter 2 has the Titan we fight alongside two giant Knights
>>527997582My mom's pretty much an expert at it and does it for a living, trained professionals can and do make mistakes, especially in rather casual environments
Minor mistakes do not mean his hand's fucked up, it just means he isn't playing perfectly which...makes sense because it's not really all that common, especially since he's had (You) fucking with him for some time
>>527995072>tall KrisI'm gonna vomit
>>527997582That's Toby playing, more to the point, that's how a LOT of people sound when just riffing casually on the piano, they're not going to play perfectly, there's going to be a lot of stop starts and improvisation even if they know what they want to play.
>>527997674>They/themKris got molested by Dess and changed his pronouns to they/them.
>>527997582Kris could also just be out of practice, they haven't been to the Holiday place in who knows how long and that's where the piano they normally played on is
And also maybe Kris just isn't a piano virtuoso but has only average skill
>>527997641I'll be the first to admit I physically stood up from my chair and shouted, "Toby, you magnificent fucker!"
>>527997582Or because he's out of practice. Doubt he'd do all that while being so injured he can't play a single note beforehand, yet all of a sudden belts out all that shit back to back. His hand isn't injured, I'm sorry to rain on your theory parade.
>>527997582Keep in mind it's Toby playing the piano, and Toby actually does have an injury that prevents him from playing 100%.
>>527997754Where did this copypasta originate? I've seen it posted for years.
It's from Homestuck isn't it?
>>527997782Correct so Kris has an injured hand
Speaking of Kris and piano
What the fuck's the deal with pianpian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aVeVBPeYAc
>>527997785Have we had any 'normal' looking art of Kris like we do for some of the promo images for Undertale?
>>527997818He's got a Goner hand.
>>527997712I'm sorry for you being a manlet
>>527995246Yeah, canon Spamton's height is creepy when you think about it
Yet like 90% of people either draw him as a tall tumblr sexyman, or a little baby gremlin
Shouldn't he be Rob or Bob Fox? Toby is short for Tobias
>beat deltarune
>save and cure Dess
>Kris watches Suselle and Dessriel happen in front of them
It's gonna be really fucking funny when Kris gets the phone call in chapter 5 and Susie over hears it because Kris drops the phone cause their hand cramps
>>527997794https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxyZaZlaOs
here's proto tenna for all tvfags
>>527997861Still can't believe this made it in the game after being forced into fansongs for years
>>527997872I think this is the one and only piece of Kris key art and it was probably made just for this Famitsu article
Underrune doesn't really do key art in general
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>>527997872I think this LINE sticker is the most normal looking official art of Kris there is
>>527997706It's been long stated that Toby has an injury himself and we know Toby was the only playing. I think it's clearly meant to showcase Kris isn't 100% in all facets, why include all the hand imagery of it doesn't mean anything? It clearly matters
>>527993687I love them so much
https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1935631048848871659
it's peak
>>527997976This lines up with TV World being composed around the same time.
>>527997976>Tenna was supposed to do GeddanROBBED I TELL YOU
ROBBED
HE WAS LEARNING HIP NEW THINGS FROM SPAMTON
>>527997976I'm trying to learn 3D now for a game and I fucking hate it. I will use Toby as my guiding motivating light, as I've done in the past.
>>527997674Toby will come out as they/them
Just like Hussie
>>527998000Trips of... whatever is happening in this image
Mr. (Ant) Tenna!!!
He took 9 years to make!!!
>>527997976>Tenna was invented before Spamton but got cucked into being the lazy knock-off because of Toby's shitty release schedule.
>>527998235no, sus is the other party member
>>527997861Not to get faggy about it but this is probably the only way Kris gets to express their emotions of being trapped in a hopeless situation with no control. Whatever program we're using to control the soul, its too limited to properly play the piano. That is the only real thing we can't take away from them.
>>527997582>if they had an injury that prevented them from playing 100%Because Toby is playing it, and he has an injury IRL
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I keep thinking how crazy Chapter 4's egg room was, and the buildup to it. Absolute shitton of lore hints. Kris is in therapy for some reason, tries and fails to draw something repeatedly, paints an egg tree over the mess, and very metaphorically washes his hands. That, and the tail of hell, "the poor children", all that shit combined with the new Sweepstakes stuff, I feel like we're really starting to get some blanks filled in here
>>527997910Toby doesn't want to assume Kris's sexuality so he won't pair them with anyone.
>>527997946>People saying Toby referenced this in the comments
>>527998174I'll try my best...
>>527997910only one thing to do in that situation
>>527998370>Kris hangs themselves>just like irl troons
Predict 2000s memes Toby will reference in future chapters
>>527997976No fucking way lmao, that's amazing. Makes me wonder if Toby has more planned for him.
MALEVOLENT antagonist VIOLENTLY restrained by powerful opponent
Suselle is Kris's punishment for trying to use Susie in the Knight's plot and maybe sacrifice her or something
Dessriel is Kris's punishment for blowing Dess up in the first place
Kerdly is Kris's punishment for eating the whole pie
>>527998498You should do that, I would like you a lot more if you did.
>>527998321it's wild how fast the egg rooms went from
>oh ok this is kinda neat but there's not much to go off here, it's probably gaster i guessto
>WHO IS THE FORGOTTEN MAN WHAT IS MANCOUNTRY WHAT DID KRIS SEE BEHIND THE TREE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE POOR CHILDRENsadly the price we had to pay for this was fucking so sorry coming back but it was worth it
About the piano thing, even when there's a UI to genuinely play the thing with the giant piano, it's still not actually enough. Makes you wonder how much of this world you actually have access to, if your perception of it is actually wrong
>>527998505There is absolutely no way Deltarune does not end without a Bad Apple somewhere.
>>527997910Perfect setup for KrisSOUL, the superior ship.
>>527998505Toby has to put an ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US reference in there somewhere
Even if Toby absolutely fucking botches the pairings by the end of the game I have faith in this community to keep outputting the content that I want to see.
>>527998608Wait where is so sorry? Did I miss them?
>>527998630https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXXKQ_nl30
It always surprises me how gay this board is. I don't mean this in a good or in a bad way. Just as a matter of fact.
Bros, I can't lie
Even Susie x Ralsei is better than Susie x Noelle. By a lot.
>>527998608Yeah the weird lore suddenly in the egg rooms is some of most interesting and mysterious stuff in the game. Toby better have real answers for this shit.
>>527997910Kris already has everything they need right here.
Kris being able to repeat songs he only heard by ear is some absurd shit like come on Toby your self insert isnt THAT talented
>>527998505ariel needs legs
>>527998728Where the fuck did this play
>>527998000FUCK YOU MAKE THE GOATS KISS AAAAAA
>>527998720They're in the Art Therapy egg room but invisible because the rooms totally black. Dialogue makes it clear they're So Sorry.
>>527998782This is a good one
>>527998753That is because Susie x Noelle is nothing but "horny deer"...
Noelle is so sallow that when she drinks "herself" it's just water for her.
>>527998782This is about FRIEND
>>527998780The Card Kingdom, the Cyber City and the TV World were all a part of Kris and Dess' make believe playtime
Kris probably wrote those songs theirself
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>>527998734gay game
gay website
gay thread
gay goat
I'm in a cuddly mood for Spamton.
>>527998834Small Mike's minigame on most versions.
Cowboy Mike's minigame on Switch 2.
It has the Freedom Motif because we're the Schizo here.
Speaking of Kris playing the piano, of the songs they play in Noelles house one of them is Rouxls Kaard and I think that's crazy. It either means:
1. It's a known song in their world
2. Rouxls Kaard blares it when they fight and Kris just loves it
3. Rouxls Kaard is the phone caller
>>527998734Its a gay website so that checks out
>>5279987344chan anons are often the internet equivalent of prison gay
>>527999016maybe kris imagines all the music we hear in the game
>>527997978what fansongs was it in
>>527998964>Fandom edition Hey RETARD that made this in 2021, he literally can turn into a several hundred foot tall giant
>>527998782>>527998913>FRIEND birthed titans/darkness/7 chapters from its 7 vaganias>it's a primordial mother/spawner of shadowy thingsOh god
>>527998608Yeah, it's definitely tied to The Incident, but what actually went down? That one revelation a few threads ago might have shed some light, the Breath of Fire 2 plot having a lot of similarities. From what I can gather, some children (Definitely Kris, probably Dess, possibly Asriel and Noelle) followed Hell's Tail (anal beads with a mouse pointer, whatever that is) into the forest and got Lost Where The Trees Would Grow (Lost near the Shelter? IN the Shelter? Which may or may not have been a Dark World at the time, but if it wasn't, definitely became one afterwards) and something bad happened (the poor children!) which required Therapy, part of which was art therapy Kris did, involving him trying and failing to draw something in pencil, then painting a Dark World egg tree over it. And something to do with Roots. I might be missing a few things.
>>527998970Who the fuck is small mike who the fuck is cowboy mike who the fuck are you talking about
>>527998608if so sorry is stuck in metaphysical hell (as he should be) then muffet's definitely gonna be a relevant character in a chapter
>>527999164lil bro didn't do the Mike fight................
>>5279990164. Kris wrote Rouxls Kaard's theme
I do think that the music is probably just diegetic in the Dark Worlds though.
>>527999206Both So Sorry and Muffet got little references, Muffet got the GoldWidow from the donation box
The Forgotten Man sounds so much like Gaster but i know for a fact the game will pull some horseshit like "Ah actually the forgotten man is the Father, Gaster is the Son and the Soul is the heavenly spirit"
i just think Asgore has too much of a "Tumblr bara" design. he went from intimidating, stoic king to loser hippie fatass.
>>527999095They are referring to REGULAR neo here though not the GIGA neo who gets the big bulge and shadow crystally dark purple armor...i think. Anyways i want to rub spamton neo's neck and pet his head and kiss his heart on a chain what a cutie patootie
>>527999016If you play it on the piano in the dark world in front of Susie and Ralsei, they refer to it as Rouxls's theme song. So that song definitely plays in-universe.
>>527999080If you play Rouxls' theme on the Organ, Ralsei will know it's his, so he hears it too.
Granted, I can easily imagine Rouxls having something blasting his theme out that he carries around with him.
>>527999206Muffet also got referenced in Chapter 4 though so I doubt it.
If Toby makes fun of us for thinking Gaster would be a character I'm emailing him a zip bomb
>>527999263He was never intimidating, his Undertale king outfit looks goofy as fuck. Bitch isnt even wearing shoes.
>>527999080>>527999016Ralsei recognizes Rouxl's theme if you play it on the piano.
Also, if you play the Dark Sactuary music on the piano, Susie goes "hey I recognize that", which causes Ralsei to get confused, and then Susie says that she heard Ralsei humming it earlier.
So at the very minimum, Ralsei can hear the music for some reason, but it doesnt seem like Susie can.
>>527995669I hope this suffices anon
>>527999336Spamton will swallow the zip bomb whole and rub his swollen belly as it explodes inside of him and makes him burp
>>527999227I legitimately do not know what you're talking about.
>>527999424https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXtivMDqt0
>>527999250the forgotten man can't just be gaster because the forgotten man tells us he's only capable of speech in mancountry and gaster talks to us during the knight fight
he's probably some sort of copy or shard or whatever of gaster
>>527998860Shit lol, you're right, "Art Club"
>* Right, this is where we draw pictures, and don't kill each other!Lmao, he remembers getting murked. That, or it's even more meta-clues/secrets. Or both.
>>527999424after you finish chapter 4 go back to the entrance of the dark world and then head right into the beam of light
>>527999442just keep wandering around the door room
>>527999390I fucking love it. Thank you.
>>527999387Why's Ralsei look like he should be on the cover of those "How to Draw Manga" books from the 2000s
>>527999327>>527999330Speaking of which, if you play the sanctuary BGM, Susie says
>Yeah, that's right. Ralsei was humming it earlier.So Ralsei can apparently hear the background music, but Susie can't.
>>527999390>>527999529wait herse without the line in the cente r if rgot aoubt hthat
>>527999250Goner Maker, Knight death, Ch1 Game Over, Ch4 ending = UT Gaster.
Egg Man = DR Gaster.
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What is (YOU)r schizotheory that's held together purely by the
>*Freedom Litemotif?
Kris is a cocksucking prodigy
The best cocksucker in their town
>>527999263>he went from intimidating, stoic kingasgore was never an intimidating stoic king
maybe at some point in undertale's past but we only ever see him as a loser hippie fatass who tries to put on a show for you
>>527999442Kickstarter character, he's not coming back.
>>527999580No that was Asriel, though Kris was a close second
>>527999552You're so powerful
>>527999119He got that friend(s) inside.
>>527999579There should be a version with Penumbra Phantasm
>>527999754AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
LEAVE THIS BOARD!
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>>527999580Asgore is the all time record holder
First time poster in here, still trying to figure out how to draw Tenna but if I could figure out how to draw Spamton then it'll come over time...may draw Spamton soon too who knows
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>>527999016>spoiler>Rouxls calls random numbers and says shit in a different voice>everyone goes schizo after answering it for too long>inb4 the Rouxls = Gaster theory starts to make sense
She get diegetic on my metafiction until I Ludonarrative Dissonance
Gaster meanders through different fragments with bernkastel and theyre best friends
You can have sex with any Undertale or Deltarune character, but the only ones you can have sex with are ones that have fights you can no-damage.
a very, VERY scary Toriel! oooooohhh!! be scareeeddd of her!!!
>>527999952Looks like I'm fucking Flowey
>>527997979Kris is a girl confirmed???
>>527999963>draw different character>call it characterwhat compels people to do this
>>527999897Why the FUCK are their faces so similar it's actually pissing me off
>>527999896pippins are great, thank you anon
>>527999952can I fuck Chara or Kris
or more accurately
can they fuck me
Neutral on spamswatch but swatch serving big shot spamton/having post-fall spamton work as the leftover cafรฉ food disposal was pretty hot
>>527999952what if the character doesnt have a fight
What if Burghley is his real name and people just call him Berdly.
What if the medium sized icons and only the medium sized icons on Fave's PC suddenly turned blank
Schizo Theory:
Ralsei can hear the ingame music, and Susie cannot
This is implied in chapter 4 where she only recognizes the Dark Sanctuary theme from Ralsei humming it
>>527994639>caught between his double truciesI wonder if Kris was supposed to go alone into that first dark world and there was already a whole plan laid out about it all, but then Alphys sent Susie as well and she fell and that was completely unexpected.
I've also got a theory that the Dess disappearance event involved her and Kris falling into a dark world, and something happening there that left her trapped, probably for saving Kris. So now that Susie entered by accident Kris feels double responsible about protecting her, making them torn between whatever promise they made before the start of the game and having a chance to protect someone else, made even worse by that someone becoming closer and closer.
>>528000272I literally already said this not even 50 posts before you
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>>528000097It's intentional, I guarantee you that Rouxls will be the final fucking schizoboss of the Deltarune or the one before final final boss, there's no way he's NOT important, he appears in every chapter, does stuff, conveniently blocks paths, can use rules card duh, looks awfully like Gaster, sometimes says cryptic shit...either final schizoboss or he's the Knight or someone working for the Knight, there's no way he's just a huge joke character...i mean he can be but i feel like there's more to Rouxls than just being a mockup...
Schizo theory:
Ralsei is sus because not a single goat character has been honest to the player in any of the Toby Fox video games all the way to the end
>>528000204Then you can fuck them
Rouxls can be the Knight of Puzzles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cecil,_1st_Baron_Burghley
>Lord Burghley
>William Cecil, 1st Baron Burghley (13 September 1520 โ 4 August 1598), was an English statesman, the chief adviser of Queen Elizabeth I for most of her reign
Deepest lore
>>528000379I still think he's going to accidentally get all the Shadow crystals and be the last schizoboss with unlimited power that he doesn't even understand..it's the perfect setup to give what seems like a bumbling idiot ultimate strength
Hey so I just did chapter 3 and have questions.
>can all characters in the dark world just travel freely? I thought lancer was a gag and exception but roulxcard does it too.
>who's the pink tv guy? is it meant to be the past version of mr.tenna? does he hate bigshot because kris and the others moved on to laptops and gaming, and spamtom represent the sales clerk, or computer or something?
>i had to look up a guide to get the egg, is it meant to be this convuluted? does it have a deeper meaning? like the secret room you got to by pressing left on that single enemy was weird as fuck. it took you to a weird map that i assume was a fake game kris made with 7 aces to win a card game but i don't get anything beyond that.
>what's up with the bunker? i remember seeing it at the end of chapter 1 but you couldn't do anythjing with it. why the does the character in the game try not to go there, and it messes up your controls? is it like we the charcter and kris are different people?
>the plug ramy seemed to know kris opened the portal. why? why did kris open the portal and do all this shit? is it to reconnect with their sibling that they miss?
>is ralsei meant to be asriel, kris made note that they look alike? susie and ralsei's initials in the game is ASS RAL, which sounds like it. Are susie and ralsei even real? are they meant to represent kris' sibling? like this could all be a fever dream.
>is the knight one of the deers like noelle's mum or dad?
>what's up with the ice magic stuff? are they talking about the snowgrave route? what about the white and black cloaks? also who's the bat?
>>528000441And he's not honest either, he knows the prophecy since the very beginning and he hasn't said anything.
>>528000359Schizo theory;
No you didnt
A dark world opens up in Ice-E's
Pizzapants falls in love with and fucks a Pizza Darkner and they have Twilightner babies together
Asriel killed Dess after she got pregnant with kris' child.
>>527996379I didn't "throw her away" but damn if chapter 2 didn't make me butthurt.
>Pick Susie to give the gift to.>She gets super flustered and starts trying to reciprocate in some way.>Ralsei even plays wingman.>Damn, that's a serious, genuine romantic mome->Noelle enters scene.>Susie instantly forgets what JUST happened.>They spend the entire rest of the chapter having the most painfully awkward and slow romance scenes and derail the whole adventure.>Noelle even has the gall to get upset about Berdly doing the same to her, but funnier.
is beardly awake in chapter 4 if you killed in chapter 2?
>>528000272Chapter 1 already established that Ralsei knows the game's control scheme and Susie doesn't, so he's probably fully aware of all of the "game-y" stuff we perceive in general.
>>528000379>Beware of the man who speaks in hands.
When the thread begins to blow
and the posters start to glow...
don't forget
to go play Everhood
>>528000668>derail the whole adventureIt's was one ferris wheel ride
>>528000668>>They spend the entire rest of the chapter having the most painfully awkward and slow romance scenes and derail the whole adventure.Susie and Noelle have like one scene together after that
>>528000749Why are his hands in the dialogue portraits a lighter shade of blue than his face
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>>528000575>obtains all crystals>becomes the ultimate neo form>doesn't do jack shit because his brain is the size of a peanutkek
>>528000749yeah that's what i thought when i first saw these sprites...Toby...
>>528000803maybe he's actually grandient-shaded?
...like his head and upper torso is dark blue while his hands and feet are lighter blue? or maybe it's intentional...
>>528000775>>528000778I count the bedroom conversation and the ferris wheel ride as two separate scenes, mmmkay?
And they spend the rest of the adventure just n-n-n-nonstop s-s-s-stuttering about e-e-e-each... other??
>>528000996He gives himself the biggest ass imaginable to get back at Tenna
>>528000854yeesh
let's see who got
>>528777777
>>528000760I already played both
Rockin' cool games, the Everhood 2 soundtrack is the only thing that can stand up to the Deltarune one in recent memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOUZJxpb7E
>>528000760what is everhood and why is ralsei trying to shill it to me?
>>528000854It's always gachaslop...
>>527998753>evendon't insult my OTP
>>528000775>>528000778He's not wrong tho, if you consider that Noelle's conversations there led to Susie and Berdly almost opening another dark fountain before Ralsei calls them all retarded and reminds them that's a BAD thing
>>528000617YOU WERE THERE FOR 23 YEARS YOU KNEW THE PROPHECY AND YOU SAID NOTHING!
They call him the prince from the dark and yet he doesn't even have his own furniture, I just think that's interesting.
>>528000601>q1no. rouxls is in chapter 3 because he's still in kris' pocket.
>q2that's tenna in the video game, same as every other enemy (every entity in the tenna segments is actually someone backstage plugged into the game)
>q3idk i don't do eggs
>q4we don't quite know for certain, but almost assuredly involved in the dessappearance. kris refuses to go near it either because they don't want to approach it in the game or because they don't want you to see what's inside.
>q5the hell do you mean, "portal"?
>q6no. everyone who knows asriel and has seen ralsei (kris and noelle) make constant reference to the fact that there are differences between asriel and ralsei. it is not just a 1:1 copy. susie is definitely real.
>q7the exact identity of the knight is unknown. prevailing theory is that it's in some way dess/derived from dess, like the masked man from mother 3.
>q8yes, it's telling you about ch2 weird route. since ch2 was originally meant to be released alongside ch3-5, it's likely that this was meant to be how people were supposed to discover it. dunno what gou mean by bat
>>528000379What do you mean he is not important, chapter 4 would not be finished without his help
>>528001103Only 0s on /vg/, other big GETS get skipped here
>>528001224>blaming fucking Noelle and Susie for Berdly being a spergWEW LAD
>>528000721Not only that, he's aware of the player, too, given all the "let's close our eyes" stuff. Wonder if it's just because it's in the prophecy somehow, or if he sees even more than he lets on. He's definitely still hiding something. ("So that's why")
>>528001208>>528001281>>528001304my bad...didn't know other gets are skipped, welp the gachaslop won either way...
>>528001291???
Berdly isn't the one that comes up with the idea, he's just the only one that had his hands free
>>528001381You might as well blame Queen since she's the one who wanted them to make Dark Fountains.
>>528001269In the thumbnail the titan looks a bit like gaster.
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>>528001224Out of all the things I've seen people get mad at Noelle over this is the strangest
>>528001424Someone posted an image a bit ago where the titan's face wings folded look like the gaster sprite, i cant unsee it now.
>>528001517I mean when they're not folded. Look at the thumbnail and squint a little.
>>528000601Gonna be real, the answers to most of these questions are "We don't know yet" or "Read it again, slower this time"
>>528001424>>528001517could be coincidence, could be not
>>528001587no i see it, its more clear to me when folded but unfolded i still see it
>>528001628cool as fuck art btw.
looks like disco elysium
Gaster showed up in my piece of toast
>>528001419No, that's retarded
Dude, Noelle says she's literally happier in the dark world, Susie suggests not sealing the fountain, and then all three of them get overhyped and try to open another one before Ralsei snaps them back to reality
Queen isn't even part of that conversation because that's the moment she's offline, recharging, and only speaks up after Ralsei lore expositions all over everyone to reveal she had no idea what dark fountains even do (which Susie did because he already explained in chapter 1 that they will bring untold destruction and the only thing he reveals on that second round of exposition is that the titans are part of that)
>>528001716>Dude, Noelle says she's literally happier in the dark world, Susie suggests not sealing the fountain, and then all three of them get overhyped and try to open another one before Ralsei snaps them back to realityNo, Berdly tries to open one. I have no clue why you're trying to blame Noelle for this one. And not even blaming Queen at all? You're a weirdo, dude.
>>528001496haters gonna hate, anon
>>528001831>No, Berdly tries to open one. I have no clue why you're trying to blame Noelle for this one.Because he fucking does it FOR Noelle, AFTER Noelle gives reasons to open one, AFTER Noelle agrees to opening one
How the fuck is this such a difficult concept for you?
>And not even blaming Queen at all? WHY WOULD QUEEN HAVE BLAME FOR IT, SHE WAS ALREADY DEFEATED, HER PARTICULAR ATTEMPT AT OPENING DARK FOUNTAINS WAS ALREADY OVER
>>528001334>>528000721>>528000441Schizo theory: Ralsei will climb out of your monitor at the end of the game and become real. Each copy of the game births a personalized Ralsei based on your ingame decisions.
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What did he mean by this?
>>528001716Noelle didn't brainwash Susie into wanting to cause the Roaring, Susie didn't know about the double Dark Fountains causing the Roaring in the first place (and neither did Noelle or Berdly) and had obviously preferred the Dark Worlds over the real world since chapter 1 so of course she'd be down for a plan to expand them
>>528001978Probably OMORI, like he already posted about some time ago, lots of similar character's traits and story beats
>>528001930In the true ending, you get a loaded disk which you can shove into your Fangamer(TM) Ralsei plush to make it come to life
>>528001978first concept of spamton's character probably
>>528001716>and only speaks up after Ralsei lore expositions all over everyone to reveal she had no idea what dark fountains even doNoelle doesnt know either so why are you blaming her? She got told it was a dream anyways.
>Kriss and Dess perform X-Slash together
>they can nuke almost the entire dark world
So, a Grand Door connects neighboring dark worlds. A beam of light is an "exit" from a Dark World. Then why TV World and Hometown are connected by a Grand Door? Is Hometown itself a giant Dark World?
>>528002046>Noelle didn't brainwash Susie into wanting to cause the RoaringWhat the FUCK are you both hallucinating, who the fuck said that? Of course she didn't fucking "brainwash" Susie into wanting the Roaring, neither of them fucking know about the Roaring
What is with you people and this wierd fucking persecution complex? The point is that they almost opened a double fountain because Noelle said she would like one until Ralsei reminds Susie that's fucking stupid and explains to everyone else why that's bad, every other piece of garbage you just typed there is just shit you just put in my mouth on your own
>>528002148Well Susie and Ralsei use DoubleHeal to heal all the damage so there
>>528002208>Of course she didn't fucking "brainwash" Susie into wanting the Roaring, neither of them fucking know about the RoaringSo what's the problem, what are you getting mad about and why should we hate Noelle for it
What if Gaster was a bad bitch?
>>528002316>what are you getting mad aboutThat Susie completely fucking forgets what the whole adventure is for just because Noelle get wistful about it
>>528002078>restock plannedAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
>>528002328She probably wouldn't look like the slop you generated
I honestly really didn't expect a Titan to show up so early
Probably one of the biggest surprises of CH3+4
Shame the fight was kinda lame compare to Tenna, Mantle, Roaring Knight, and Gerson
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>>528002328look I know it's slop but that underboob cutout is activating something
>>528002204Grand Doors are normal Doors in the Light World. The only reason the first one we encounter leads to another dark world is because the fountain is literally in the next room.
>>528002208>because Noelle said she would like one until Ralsei reminds Susie that's fucking stupid and explains to everyone else why that's bad,How come you're blaming everyone but Berdly lol
>>528002368The same Susie you just admitted didn't know about the Roaring and prefers the Dark Worlds over the Light Worlds and who might very well not have seen the adventure as being about closing the Dark Fountains herself
You're talking like you think Noelle talked her into betraying you or something instead of Noelle thinking the Dark Worlds are fine (she has no reason not to think otherwise) and Susie agreeing
>>528002442Then why Castle Town and the Crurch have beams of light as an exit instead of Grand Doors?
>>528002641>Castle TownSpecial grand fountain of darkness
>ChurchI dunno and honestly it feels non canon given how dogshit the town is, its just an excuse to let people go back to your town and fight Mike. Lorewise it doesnt make any fucking sense how you can warp to Castle Town via a beam of light. Frankly I kinda expect it to be moved to chapter 5 when that comes out.
>>528002641The Church doesn't have a beam of light.
>>528002641Beams happen whenever we exit the Dark World, because we're literally travelling into the Light. It happens when moving through a Grand Door into the Light World, and when sealing a Dark Fountain.
>>528002641The Castle Town light beam is special, when the special bonus one in chapter 4 that might not even be canon shows up Susie says something like "That looks like the light in Castle Town" or something like that
It also plays the same sound as in the Deltarune title screen which might be important
>>528002454Ok anon, for one second, for just one second
Assume I'm not trying to "blame" anyone here
Assume that nobody has talked about "blame" at all except you
Assume that I just brought up an objective, clear fact in the game, which is just that Noelle talks about how much happier she is in the dark world and that makes her, Berdly and Susie all almost derail the whole adventure and open a second fountain
I saw it, everyone in this thread saw it, you presumably saw it assuming you've actually played the game and aren't just going off of Noelle fanart
Now assume someone, anyone, simply repeated what just happened
Now answer, why you think this is an attack on Noelle in particular, and why you're lashing out this fucking hard about someone JUST summarizing what happens in the game
>>528002620>The same Susie you just admitted didn't know about the RoaringShe didn't know what it's called, and she didn't know about the titans, but in chapter 1 Ralsei already explained the dark fountains will destroy the world
>You're talking like you think Noelle talked her into betraying youI'M FUCKING NOT YOU FUCKING DERANGED SCHIZO, I'M JUST SAYING I HATE HOW TOBY TRIED TO PUSH THE NOELLE ROMANCE SO HARD THAT SUSIE LEGIT TRIED TO DESTROY THE WORD OVER A "WHOOPSIE, I FORGOT"
HOLY SHIT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU TWO TO MAKE YOU THIS FUCKING THIN-SKINNED AND PARANOID
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>>528002750>>528002761church has a beam of light connecting it to castle town
>>528002750When you reload your post chapter 4 save it does
The family's fighting again...
>>528002813Honestly, that's probably just so Toby can get us to the fight he made for the fans as a treat based on all of our Mike theories, I don't think it has any major lore implications
>>528002454NTA but Berdly has done nothing wrong in his entire life
>>528002792>I'M FUCKING NOT YOU FUCKING DERANGED SCHIZO, I'M JUST SAYING I HATE HOW TOBY TRIED TO PUSH THE NOELLE ROMANCE SO HARD THAT SUSIE LEGIT TRIED TO DESTROY THE WORD OVER A "WHOOPSIE, I FORGOT"She didnt know the world would be destroyed though? You just sound super pissed at the romance and its making you tard rage.
>>528002803Did Toby just say that so obsessive fans would dig through every tweet from 2016
>>528002813>>528002827Oh I considered that non-canon as it only appears after you load a completed save and it's only to let you in the bonus Mike room. I don't blame anyone else if they want to argue that it is canon though as it's in the game to me it's just a player convenience thing though rather than lore related.
>>528002919Berdly isn't bad he's just annoying
>>528002792>but in chapter 1 Ralsei already explained the dark fountains will destroy the worldIn a text dump that Susie wasn't even listening to and that you can skip outright
>I HATE HOW TOBY TRIED TO PUSH THE NOELLE ROMANCE SO HARD THAT SUSIE LEGIT TRIED TO DESTROY THE WORD OVER A "WHOOPSIE, I FORGOT"And I'm saying you've got mental problems for getting mad about that or see that as "pushing the Noelle romance," especially when it's not a "whoopsie I forgot" but "I want these Dark World adventures where I'm happy to go on forever"
>>528002927>She didnt know the world would be destroyed though?I don't think I can get past the wall of bricks that is your brain after already saying like three times that Ralsei already told her what happens when the dark fountains open in chapter 1
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>>528002734it also allows you to play the chapter 3 minigames
if it weren't there and you finished chapter 4, the only way to play them would be to start a new save and sit through the entire church sequence
>>528002974NTA, but I think the one with the wall of bricks for a brain is Susie, she probably just forgot lol
>>528001978https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ghostrick
>>528002974Ralsei said all that while also being like "oh but my dark fountain is fine :3" I get why Susie would be confused.
Also Susie wasnt paying attention in chapter 1 for Ralsei's tale, if you played the game you would know that...
>>528002734>>528003035Yeah, I assume it was a last minute addition so people could easily play minigames until chapter 5 comes out. They still need to patch in a chart editor for the rhythm game and the two other physical challenges though.
>>528002974he said some shit about the earth shidding and farting if the "balance of light and dark" is broken
even now it's still not exactly clear if too many dark worlds actually does anything bad, just that opening a fountain in a dark world is bad
and that was at the very beginning of chapter 1 when susie really didn't give a shit
>>528002967>>528003094>In a text dump that Susie wasn't even listening toBy that logic I guess we can no longer expect the plot to make sense at all since now every character can just claim they weren't listening to the important plot reveals in posteriority, even though they were there, and clearly WERE listening. Susie doesn't leave that scene until Ralsei has already finished explaining, and she fucking fully understands later that by going with Lancer she's joining the bad guy side
She even fucking taunts Ralsei over letting the world be destroyed because what does she care, but I guess you guys just filtered that part out of your brains to fit your argument
>>528003178>music shop is closed>chef doesnt make a new spincakeHonestly they should revamp a lot of shit in chapter 4.
Why the fuck was Gaster being so freaky on Twitter before the chapters launched
Chapter 5 will be the big Castle Town update to keep us busy in the wait for Chapter 6/7
>>528003221>Susie doesn't leave that scene until Ralsei has already finished explaining, and she fucking fully understands later that by going with Lancer she's joining the bad guy sideShe immediately leaves and blows off Ralsei so she obviously wasn't taking it seriously back then. You're rusty on your chapter 1 details, my friend.
whats behind the center door inside the dark world prince's dark world castle anyways
and why is ralsei the prince who is the king
>>528003178I saw @Cerberaa on Twitter making headway
>>528003408I assume it leads to the fountain itself
>>528003328And you're still ignoring the fact that Susie openly acknowledges that it will destroy the world and uses it as a taunt
The fact you're still trying to argue by ignoring this is honestly astounding, at this point you could be bashing your brains out over a wall and still insist it's reality that's wrong for not recognizing there's a door there no one else can see but you
>>528003408It's called (You) Town for a reason
>>528002813It connects Church to outside world, Anon. We go directly to Castle Town because Susie said to not to dally (i.e. walk around town is time-skipped).
>>528003234I'm hoping that they'll make up for the shittiness of Ch4's Castle Town either with a patch or by making Ch5's Castle Town really, really good.
>>528003408Ralsei isnโt a prince. Ralsei is an advisor, a guide
Lancer was the prince
>>528003467>And you're still ignoring the fact that Susie openly acknowledges that it will destroy the world and uses it as a tauntBecause she's not taking the hero stuff seriously at all. She doesn't take being "a bad guy" seriously at all either, she just fucks around with Lancer. Good grief dude, all of this because you were triggered by lesbians.
>>528003557skibidi muffet
>>528003408>who is the king(You) are the king/queen/whatever.
Note the crown symbol above the locked door with a big-ass heart and angel wings. Plus the town is literally named after you.
>>528003576Susie doesn't even freak out about having actually saved the world and being a hero for real until after getting Ralsei's lecture on the roaring
>>528003576And apparently she didn't take becoming a hero seriously at all either, huh? Since it takes like one scene for her to forget why she did it. I guess Susie just doesn't care about anything at all and will destroy the world out of sheer forgetfulness, huh? And we shouldn't get mad about it at all because... because if you do you're just triggered about lesbians?
>>528003665I dont think that anon even remembers Susie's excited reaction in the computer lab, he seems to be genuinely fixated on the Suselle romance and it fried his brain.
>>528003528but he goes like 'hello im ralsei the prince of homestuck music i mean the dark castle'
>>528003202The ch4 prophecy's wording make it seem like Sun's light caused darkness to accumulate underneath Earth's surface. I dunno if it's poetic or literal
* Guess we can seal the fountain now, right everybody?
* Everybody?
* Queen... she said...
* "Choose the world that makes you happy..."
* I... don't want to live in a world ruled by her.
* ... but, if that wasn't the case...
* I wonder if this world... wouldn't be so bad?
* Huh?
* ... Susie, don't you think so too...?
* I... uh,
* Now that you mention it...
* Kris, isn't this world just... BETTER?
* We make so many... friends here. Y'know?
* I've never... had an adventure like this before.
* With axes... and battles... and magic.
* Where everything can be healed with a little spell.
* And no matter what happens...
* No one tells us what to do!
* Gosh, yeah!
* S-so, even if things were really scary just now...
* ... I mean...
* So is there any reason not to...?
* Not that I can think of.
* Me neither.
* Then, Noelle... let THIS be my real apology!
* Concentrating my will into this blade...
* I will make a new Fountain...
* And unleash a bright future!
* A future whose brightness... is born from DARKNESS!
* What...
* In the world are you all doing?
* Well, we thought we would just
* Stop.
* I mean -
* Stop!
* Do you realize what will happen if you do that?
* I... we'll... just...
* You'll bring the Roaring.
Here's the full interaction, just so we can all brush up our knawledge
>>528003721>Susie's excited reaction in the computer labAre you seriously fucking equating
>Hell yeah, another chance to have an adventure and save the world!with
>Hell yeah, let's fail the adventure on purpose and get everyone ever killed!?
>>528003496It'll probably grow again when they take everything (except Gerson) to Castle Town.
Also new recipes from Malius after Chapter 5's Dark World is finished since we should find the Breadmaster he wants as the Egg Man confirmed Chapter 5's world will have something connected to wheat as the room to look for to find him again.
Honestly it really feels like certain parts of the release suffered for not having 5 alongside it, which was the original plan.
>>528003732Thatโs called lying anon, he does it a lot.
>>528003808You're so upset about lesbians its made you unable to read English
>>528003732I like to cum
In my Mercedes Benz
>>528002075Not possible that tweet was in 2014
>>528003787Why didnt Ralsei just speak up at the start instead of waiting like a sperg
>>528003858What scene are you talking about if not the scene where Susie tries to enter the computer lab, sees the dark world gate, and gets excited?
>>528003956For Dramatic Effect, he's a sucker for a good scene
Suselle will be canon and Kris and Dess get fucking destroyed by Susie.
Is there any implication that being in the dark world makes Kris and Susie stronger or can they just do all that flipping around shit and fighting for real? Like could Kris fuck up most of the monsters in town?
>>528003970If only there were some context clues, like the post I replied to talking about the scene I'm also talking about
>>528003956Flabbergasted that they were even thinking about doing such a thing
>>528003956Wasn't he off screen or knocked out or something?
>>528003956He hates Berdly and Noelle so he just tuned out whatever they were blabbering about.
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>>528004071No he was just sitting there like a freak
>>528004071He was pressed up against Kris' body, full contact
>>528003956they intended to make a dark fountain, it may not have been obvious that berdly intended to make one in a dark world until he was about to do it
just making more dark worlds is something he'd whinge about but not as immediately panic-inducing as inadvertently making a titan
>>528004034The monsters can use magic in the Dark World so it seems to give them an appropriate RPG protagonist power-up
The Weird Route will probably involve doing something really bad that lets Kris and Noelle use their Dark World powers in the Light World
>>528004034They're not doing real fighting in the Dark World they're doing JRPG battles. Unsure what that means for their actual athletic prowess.
>>528004024>Kris and Dess get fucking destroyed*Kris gets spared and Dess gets purified
>>528004034Susie can't play the guitar in the light world, so the dark world skills do not translate.
>>528004054The fact you're just vagueposting now and refusing to actually explain clearly what scenes are you using as proof to make actually talking about this point as difficult as you can tells me all I need to know. Fucking retard.
>>528003956He can't even conceive what they were planning to do until Berdly raises his axe because of how fucking retarded it is.
>>528004034Nothing is actually said about it but I've always headcanoned that Kris and Susie get much fitter and faster down there, I suppose Berdly and Noelle do as well.
That said, Kris has a knife and some serious fucking aim so he could give it a good go at fucking up Hometown.
>>528004212she can't in the dark world either, she used the drums
>>528004240The fact that you dont remember the scene where they wake up from the Dark World in the computer lab tells me I know more about Chapter 2 than you do
>>528004130fucking make one yourself for once you lazy retarded piece of shit
>>528004034As far as we're aware, magic doesn't exist in the light world currently, outside of Lightners being able to summon faountains. There are monsters obviously but it doesn't seem like magic is used daily like it is in UT.
We know monsters can still be inhumanly strong, with Undyne benching cars and Susie being able to grab a knife by the blade as if it's nothing. If Kris is actually strong in the light world, or if him being a human gives him power in the dark world that he's holding back remains to be seen
>>528004034Yeah, there's no way they're all moving like that in the Light World - take Gerson, dude was a blacksmith turned author, no way he's teleporting behind you, no way Kris is casually scaling a Titan
>>528004212She doesnt play guitar in the dark world either unless im seriously misremembering something
>>528004024>Suselle will be canon and Kris and Dess start fucking.ftfy
>>528004212Susie can't play guitar in the dark world either
>>527986464 (OP)sans is so lucky
To be honest Susie can't really play the drums in the Dark World either
>>528004276>where they wake up from the Dark World in the computer labWhat about that scene? At that point the whole argument and adventure is over. What is there to prove from that, that Susie had fun? No shit.
>>528004212She was playing the drums, and even in the concert minigame in castle town after Chapter 3 she's still regularly messes up.
>>528004154The magic is a given sure but that doesn't really account for Susie throwing Kris around like a football, and we see in the overworld she's strong enough to lift Kris clean off their feet.
>>528004212Susie plays the drums though, badly. Kris is the one playing the guitar except he's not, we are.
>>528004160There's definitely some cross over, there's a physicality to the dark world considering Berdly gets ice coma'd and Kris cuts his hand and bleeds for real. I'm more than willing to believe that Kris could straight up fuck up quite a few people in town if they wanted to. They jump out of their second story window seemingly regularly ffs
>>528004302I would guess SOUL can use it's light trick in the light world, too. I'm not sure if we can "shine on" other characters to power-up them in the Light World, tho.
>>528004429That's the joke. Not being able to play the drums has never stopped a drummer before.
>>528004243Oh fuck you're right I forgot about his aim the kid is a fucking crack shot at throwing shit. They have that Mexican mom aim
One thing I fucking noticed:
Thereโs no panels about closing dark fountains in Chapter 4. In ralseiโs version of the prophecy, it has a lot about it, but there isnโt actually a single panel at all about closing a dark fountain.
>>527991269its funny though because Kris is obviously a dude
>>527999585Its implied that immediately after Chara and Asgore's deaths he was furious and on the warpath, and simply mellowed out over time. The weapons/armor you find are the equipment used by previous humans who fell down, and each is found in roughly the place where they died. Given their placement, Asgore was most likely very proactive when the first human fell, but over time his anger cooled off and he became less willing to follow through/disgusted with himself for letting his anger lead him into murdering innocents who didn't do anything to him. Eventually culminating in the Asgore we see who doesn't leave his castle desptie knowing a human is around and obviously keeps trying to delay the fight
>>528003467seeing you get so mad over this has made me change my opinion from thinking suselle is annoying and wishy washy to thinking its based and hoping that when suselle happens in the game's full release you'll kill yourself
>>527999119Wait if this ends up being Echidna from the code...
I'm a little disappointed that my "Noelle's House looks like the Overlook Hotel from the Shining" theory didn't come to pass but we still have the cold hearted parent.
>>528004938Banishing the angel is kinda implied to be related since the "banish" Action used to kill the titan is the same light animation as closing a fountain
>>528004243>>528004610Kris's pitching ability and knife skills make me wonder if he has part of Dess's original soul while we aren't controlling them
>>527999952Tasque Manager my beloved
>>528018642I'm sure Kris already has a Shadow Crystal with them