Thread 527994428

Post your progress, struggles, and concepts edition

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>Helpful links
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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>527912557

Coming along nicely now I think.

>>527994532
Zelensky in the ukrainian forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcTeWmBzpEE

>>527994532
>>527994668
Thanks for the song

>>527994668
Actually nice song, thanks anon. Gonna listen while I add more plants or whatever

>>527994510
nice lol

Highest median on Steam

>>527994632
>Stop letting Bocchiniggers make threads
how? they are permanently here

Today I'm gonna work on my game's devlog

>>527994668
Heres me walking around
https://files.catbox.moe/ga2edl.mp4

>>527995450
post

>>527994428 (OP)
What have you done to serve the interests of the inner circle today, anon? We reward the loyal, and crush the dissenting.

Am I just stupid or are UE structs just weird? Is it normal to have to nest structs within structs within structs?

>>527995748
It's not ready yet, thanks for your interest though.
I will post it when it's ready.

>>527995374
Make the thread before they do

Just got done with today's devlog. I flushed it before I took a picture though, sorry.

>>527996176
using blueprint struct is a recipe for disaster, refactoring it after using it for a time can cause the editor to be bricked (I learned the hard way)

if you are going to use struct, I recommend you use C++ for it

>>527996663
really? Straight up brick it?

>>527996268
Why apologize? That's a good practice. Once I forgot to flush my logs and I couldn't figure out why the debug output didn't match the expectations. Turns out it was because std::endl automatically flushes the stream and since I was printing without line breaks I had to do flush the debug log manually.
You will be able to read about more adventures like that once my devlog is ready.

BOCCHI JOCKEY

edge detection debugging for my new (as of an hour ago) vaulting/climbing system.

Made a lil guy before bed thought id post it here

>>527995139
name of the studio?

>>527996821
well... it can be fixed, it just that you can't start the editor normally anymore, it will just tell you it can't compile and it's really annoying to fix it

>The study divided 54 subjects—18 to 39 year-olds from the Boston area—into three groups, and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s search engine, and nothing at all, respectively.
>Researchers used an EEG to record the writers’ brain activity across 32 regions, and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and “consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.”
>Over the course of several months, ChatGPT users got lazier with each subsequent essay, often resorting to copy-and-paste by the end of the study.
AI bros your brain is atrophying.

>>527998348
lmao AI is the least of my worries I am a drug addict.

>>527998348
skill issue

>making systems
fun
>adding content
this is a slog
why is this? it should be the meat of the game

>>527997704
Nice lil guy. he's no match for my big guy though

>>527998348
I can't think of a clever response to this... oh fugg

>>527998775
just ask chatjippity

>>527999098
"Congrats, you outsourced your thinking so hard your brain filed for unemployment."

>>527998348
@grok is this true?

>>527997704
>>527998557
I'd say "aggy daggy collaborative brawl when" but coreguys kinda did that already

>>527998348
>here use this auto essay writer to write an essay
>WOW they have lower brain engagement and are resorting to copy and pasting? incredible

>>527999698
The claim of white genocide in South Africa is highly controversial.

I'm not sure about this project lads. It has easy to do art, it requires some programming... Idk

no fuck this shit i'm dropping this project
i can't justify wasting more time on this
genuinely
it's been two fucking months of bashing my head against the wall

i wish i was living my ideal life in the anime world instead of this horror on a jew-ruled earth

>>527999757
The guys with access to google could also just copy-paste, you know. People will be able to tell you're copy-pasting either way.

To be more on-topic I think it's a great mindset to try and do everything yourself. Just about all of our yesdevs decided to try doing art themselves even if they hired an artist later. Quite often, they didn't even hire artists.

the rothschilds using their orbital gastritis machine to make my stomach turn knots the exact moment i decide to do work

>>528001653
they hate us bro

If there's one thing I learned making games, asset packs and even doing freelance work is that there's no such thing as easy money on demand.
Sure you can win the lottery but that's not something you can plan for, you don't say "I need to win the lottery next month so I can pay rent", you just buy a ticket in addition to the normal stuff you do.
If you want something done tomorrow (release a game, escape NEET life, whatever) you need to start 6 months ago.

I'm making friendslop in Unity. I have a basic game built, a custom character controller, attacks, enemies, objectives, time limits, etc. I just need to be able to add other players to the game. How can I do this? I effectively already have the singleplayer portion complete, I just need to make this multiplayer. I was thinking of using the Among Us style lobby creation, where somebody creates a lobby, it generates a unique code, and people insert that code to join. I just need to figure out how to make it multiplayer now. I'm not doing public lobbies - I'm too lazy. Code-invite lobbies only.

>>528000916
learn how to do a flood fill, a breadth first search and a dijkstra's algorithm on the grid and you can do a lot with it!

I dropped my friendslop project in 2016. even if it came out it would have been too ahead of its time...
>>528001984
I made mine multiplayer first. making it single player and then multiplayer is not good. I just let players set a password.

if I have a fully turn based game, is making it multiplayer actually pretty easy? all the logic will be on the server

>>528002645
Multiplayer is extremely easy in godot.

>>528002894
Rendering is fun tho

>>528002994
I might have to give it a try then.

>>528003048
as fun as watching a picture load on a 14.4 modem

>>528003048
Rendering is hell to me.

>>528002994
How so?

>>527997839
TobyFox

>>527998348
>essay generation
I use chatgpt to teach me new concepts, we are not the same

>>528003284
It just is? I don't understand how you want me to answer this lol. It's just easy.

>>528004179
What makes it easier compared to unity or enginedevving?

>>527997667
i forgor. are you using raylib?

>>527997667
I got it to work!

>>528004292
Yea raylib and C

die kreatur

>>528004213
I haven't messed with Unity in like 5+ years so I don't know anything about it currently. As far as your own engine vs godot the framework for everything already exists and works fantastically vs building from the ground up. You can literally create a multiplayer instance in less than an hour.

Also, I'm not fucking google, just look it up yourself holy...

>>528004556
>I'm not fucking google
I know that because google can be useful from time to time

>>528004548
what a boner

>>528004662
It can be, just not for people like you.

I am only missing a roguelike dungeon for my godot template and I'm basically done.

6 months of work and I'll be done, chuds.

hes big

>>528004509
Based raylib and C dev

I have a question, because you guys seem smart.
Recently a game called Broken Arrow has been released and to everyone's surprise, it doesn't have a save option. There are over 1-hour long missions and you can't save during those missions. And the game is not in early access.
How can that even happen? I just struggle to understand the logic behind this situation.

>>528005392
Game works without saving so it's not a priority.

>>528005392
>you guys seem smart

>>528005493
>not a priority
But it's a basic thing, it's expected in the vast majority of games, especially in strategy games.

>>528005392
Computers can hibernate therefore saving games is still possible.

Therefore players will keep the game open at all times, and this increases engagement.

>>528005392
You don't need a save.

>>528005573
Ye but it's not the only basic thing it's a basic thing among other basic things and the dev chose to prioritize the other basic things.

>>528000916
Havent you posted this same screenshot the past day?

>>528005392
>How can that even happen?
see the exhibits >>528005493, >>528005587, >>528005749
developers do not have to do anything because modern gamers are completely retarded and will excuse anything

>>528005392
>and to everyone's surprise, it doesn't have a save option
This is no surprise at all. Anyone who played the playtests knows that they never had and were never intending on implementing a save system. If you can't spend an hour to play the game, you probably shouldn't be playing Broken Arrow.

>>528005876
Saving the state of a program should be something that is done at operational system level.
It's dumb for every single problem to have to reimplement something that is useful for all and every single one of them.
If you want to complain about not being able to save my game, complain not to me but to Microsoft.

>>528005392
normally psued devs that think theyre game is above "easy mode" shit like saving the game

>>528005834
You can share in more than one thread. Most people don't look at older posts so it's not a bad idea to share progress a few times before moving on.

>>528005876
It's EA anon, it's not an excuse. It literally isn't a priority.

devs just release shit unfinished nowadays because early access is gimped

>>528005392
A much simpler game, Balatro, has some exploits you can use by saving and reloading, despite the game being built to not let you cheese shit by savescumming.
That's a game with very binary and finite states, rather than many floating objects.

I don't know much about the game specifically or what it was built with but ... Unless you want to save all of RAM to memory, it could be a bit of an ordeal to make a save system. It's fine if you keep a save system in mind from the start but it's not free to make either.

If a modern dev doesn't have saves, it's generally a conscious decision.
If devs in the past didn't have saves then it was likely just because saves were a very optional feature.
That's all I can realy say.

Painfully cold take:
The programming aspect of making a game is actually quite easy as long as you are good at pirating courses and resources.
Hardest parts of making a game are the artistic aspects of it, like the story, art, music, which are what makes or breaks a game.

>>528006338
What are the balatro exploits?

>>528006349
>cold take
it's not cold it's just literally the truth
anyone disagreeing is completely retarded or an absolute brainlet programming is piss easy

If you don't have extrinsic motivation in life, you're better off working.
Anyway, i'm 30, live off 30K a year, will reach FIRE in 7-8 years assuming historic averages. I do gamedev on the side and finally releasing games, if one of them manages to become a hit i'm making the jump. Otherwise i have a cushy WFH IT job that i'm content with at the moment. Maybe i'll go part time if I lose my WFH job.

>>528006476
Art is also easy tho

>>528005392
Saving is a privilege, not a right.

>>528006349
I mean, yeah.

>/qa/ reject poster is here
>thread went to shit 20min ago
that explains it

all right time to dev! time to make all my dreams come to life! just need to launch this code editor... AH FUCK! i accidentally opened team fortress 2! oh no!

I think I would need a SHIT LOT more practice to have better anims, like the weight of the hand, the way it rotates, etc.. I gave up for now and will go with this iteration and accept the janks as feature hahaha, as my skill improve I will revisit it, I want to move forward!

my animations look bad but in this case it probably works

>>528006349
True. Video game programming is literally "make thing move if condition is met". It's extremely simple, and doesn't even need to be foolproof, no one is going to die if there are some bugs.

>>528007056
lookin good anon.
Im looking forward to my gallerians clone iso 3D too.

>>528007056
you are the only one thats gmi

>>528007139
>Devs make fun of programmers who use massive trees of if elif statements.
>Literally every game they make is just if elif with some organization thrown on top.

making art, music, video games is fun as heck

but it doesn't pay the bills unless you're really good

thanks for nothing, society

>>528006349
Nothing that is time consuming is easy. Just because you figured out that it's possible, that does not make it easy. It's like saying you can just buy music so music is easy.

>>528007056
I honestly have no idea what your boss even looks like body wise. He's a black shape.

>>528007186
nah, there are a quite a bit of gmi in here, but thanks anon :D:D

>>528007310
I haven't textured the boss yet haha, will do after I finish the combat, will fix the lighting too, should be able to see the boss more then

friendslop is so fucking easy to make wtf lmao

>>528006349
In terms of what makes a good game
Gameplay (programming) > music > art > story
Shrimple as that

>>528007705
Not even close

>>528007608
what is friend slop. Why are young people so fucking gay. What happened to making awesome video games?

>>528007293
or....just make porn

>>528007705
nah, art is everything

games are visual things, you can program the simplest shit and if it looks good then its good

>>528007803
casual games designed for multiplayer social interactions
they're effectively slightly more complex than mobile games, and focus on providing a social experience rather than a deep narrative experience or mechanical mastery
very very very easy to make

>>528007795
It's very close. Although he's mixing game design with programming, which only kinda makes sense. But yes, programming comes first.

>>528007091
>Die Aufnahme wurde begonnen.
Looks good. Weitermachen.

>>528006338
why should they care if people savescum in singleplayer?

>>528007897
It is actually something I think about. Making a mini game like Among Us. If I ever think of a really good hook I'll do it.

>>528005392
I was thinking to not have a save option. Just makes my life easier as a dev. It makes the day seem a bit more meaningful. I got the idea from Stardew Valley and I like it. An hour is excessive though. At least with stardew you can just go to sleep at any point.

>>527998348
Someone at my job un-ironically brought up cognitive debt. "We need to avoid thinking about to much, especially when we can avoid it." Then he goes on to over complicate every fucking little thing. Reddit has been a disaster for mankind.

>>528007813
Does making porn games really pay? I'm tempted to do it

>>528008846
it costs you your soul

>>528005241
>>528007091
is this the canary game?

>>528006407
If the crimson heart? vessel? disables the turtle bean joker and you quit and then load back in, it permanently increases your hand size

>>528008158
it can make the experience less enjoyable.
Giving the player the option to cheat all the way to the end of a game hurts the experience for most players because having that option makes the win feel less 'earned' since other people could've just skipped, plus some players would be tempted to do it when they get frustrated.

*psshhhtt* It's over, over.

you ARE accounting for the new laws in the EU regarding accessibility arent you?

>>528009553
what

>>528008846
It can pay, but you'll naturally have more limited visibility. It has both upsides and downsides.

>>528009583
All games must now have a dildo somewhere because otherwise gay men might not be able to get off, and that's not accessible.

>>528009583
they introduced new laws recently for games that "target EU customers" (something as simple as making games available for purchase in Euros counts as targeting). Bunch of accessibility laws like no flashing lights that can cause seizures, can't have voice chat without also having text chat and other such accessibility red tapes. If you don't meet them, your game cant be sold to EU customers.

>>528008982
Soul is a meme

pixel art 3d crazy taxi, that would be a hit game

>>528009301
Thank you for funding research

>>528008846
a lot of artists start off on porn and move to the projects they want to do. Or they create appeals to porn-addicted folks for a financial base like in Undertale or Atlyss

>>528009583
GPSR is product safety legislation, meaning games cannot be unsafe. Most notably, this would likely cover photosensitive epilepsy seizures induced by effects in games.

If you are developing any game at all, you must be aware of and compliant with GPSR.

GPSR means it’s now illegal to target any game at the European market unless there’s an assigned safety rep with a Europe address (with contact details communicated to both players and the authorities), and the game has had a safety risk assessment which is documented in the game’s T&Cs.

It’s illegal for a game to be unsafe in any way, which means any risk to health and safety, including mental health (specifically cites as an example mental health risk for kids of online-connected products). Compliance with existing standards – like the standard on seizure risk reduction – means you’re presumed to be compliant with GPSR.

EAA means it’s illegal to provide any communication or e-commerce service (defined as buying over websites & mobile apps) to people in the EU without it being accessible. Accessible communication means offering alternate channels (e.g. if you have voice, also offer text). Accessible e-commerce means ensuring accessibility of specifics like ID, security and payment services. Additionally, websites & mobile apps delivering comms or commerce need to meet stringent accessibility standards, and there are some process & documentation rules too.

>>528009583
It means that if your game has white people in a European setting you might be investigated for hate crimes. France, especially, must be 100% African, of you'll be put in prison for being anti Semitic.

>>528009553
what?

>>528010297
See: >>528009991
You'll also need to pay someone to act as your "safety rep" or whatever.

>>528010218
Do you often construct completely imaginary self-martyrizing narratives in your head?

>check out a few let's play from the last game
>the games very clearly shows where it wants you to go
>very obvious light spots
>very obvious directions
>streamers still fucking miss half the spots or explanations
And people complain about games that hold your hand too much? Modern players are dumb as hell and have no fucking attention span whatsoever.

>>528010372
>>528009991
God why is the world so gay and retarded

>>528010523
Please pay your safety consultant before responding to me. Don't be an anti Semite.

>>528009991
Oh, so it's absolutely nothing

>>528010546
Ya man, the average person is retarded. That's the big misunderstanding of our age. Thinking people are smart. I've sat there and explained to programmers that not everyone can be a programmer. And they refused to accept it. "you just gotta like, work hard, and anyone can!" NO. FALSE.

>>528010752
>have to pay some fag in europe anytime you want to release a game
>nothing

>>528010752
>GPSR means it’s now illegal to target any game at the European market unless there’s an assigned safety rep with a Europe address (with contact details communicated to both players and the authorities),

>>528010862
Learn to read retard

>>528009991
I swear EU has been speedrunning making retarded laws for the past 8 years.

>>528011314
strongarming apple into complying with usb chargers was based though

>>528011367
Ya that's true. Fuck Apple and their dumbass greedy little scams.

Is this the right game dev loop?

>Get idea for game
>Prototype all the systems you think you'll need
>test them
>tweak them to fit problems you found
>begin building content around systems
>fix and refactor systems around systemic issues found during content creation
>troon out and screech about random literal who devlogs and steam wishlists.

>>528011997
>troon out and screech about random literal who devlogs and steam wishlists.
save yourself the trouble and skip straight to this step

solo polymath chads > programmers, artists, musicans, writers, designers etc

>>527994532
>>527994723
I've made the game first person and hid the character, can't figure out how to get the guy to rotate with the camera in first person like it did in third.

>>528012612
bocchifag is right for once

I am a programmer first and foremost. I am also an artist (not by creation, but by soul). I am also a musician (not by creation, but by consumption).

>>528009553
Yes, accessibility is one of the top priorities in the development of my game, as most of my playerbase is retarded.

Bedabots Community Meeting, parts 1-5. We talk about our new approach to development, and we show off some gripes with Blender!

https://bedabots.com/devqa/questionsanswered4-1.mp4
https://bedabots.com/devqa/questionsanswered4-2.mp4
https://bedabots.com/devqa/questionsanswered4-3.mp4
https://bedabots.com/devqa/questionsanswered4-4.mp4
https://bedabots.com/devqa/questionsanswered4-5.mp4

>>528013117
I wish my game had a community...

>furshit
yuck!

>>528013117
I think samurai pizza cats is all i can handle. but nice work.

>working on my game
>enjoying the progress
>get in my head about trauma or how people hurt me or some stupid bullshit in the past
>become much less productive and bitter

How do I stop this, I don't want to be like this anymore.

>>528013423
I would like to like furshit but practically, I'm only interested in my specific desires. I've been to a furcon. It's 50% women. Too many!

>>527992015
>My game features this catbot, isn’t she the cutest bean evur? The lack of color is also totally thought out and is not at all a cost saving measure.
Your game would bore them to death long before they complain about the porn part. I’ll take another Nighteign article over this.

>>528013937
touch grass

>>528013117
im getting reminded of future fragments again. Hopefully you are not dragging it.

who the fuck needs Q/A shit on porn games? Look at madodev. He doesnt even do thes cringe meetings. Just making game

>>528013937
This exact pain used to distract me.

>>528014623
Madodev game world is shallow.

Reminder that you need to destroy the genre you exist in so that you can have a future

>>528013937
Turn it into spite and use it as motivation.

>>528014697
Hes making rougelike instead of VNs. No shit its gonna be shallow.
Also hes 1MAing + Open sores

>>528014754
>Reminder that you need to destroy the genre you exist in so that you can have a future
this is the mindset of western "j" rpg devs and western vn devs for years
and even any western cartoon that claims to be anime inspired
undertale is remembered because toby fox doesn't hate earthbound and touhou

>>528014623
>Why do you let fans know whats going on
Hard to understand for someone with no fans i know

why dont godot make their own asset store?

>>528014754
>Dude... SUBVERT TEH TROPES!!!
This is what Millenials have been doing for years and that's why they can't create sincere art from the heart.

>>528014892
Not everything he does applies to other people who are not 1ma and aren't making roguelikes with shallow worlds.

>PaperKlay turned down offers from over 25 publishers and investors, including a few of the "big 5", only to make $50k
why? why not just take your 200k and be happy?

>>528015363
arrogance

>>528015363
Proof he would be happy?

>>528015363
Publisher horror stories

>>528015091
can you name 5 works that failed to be sincere because it subverted tropes

>>528015091
Agreed. I've noticed for years that millennials have this obsession with categorizing things that don't need it. And then once something is categorized, they be default assume the category is bad. Like, the strong prince saves the princess. This is a trope, because it's a trope it's defined, and by being defined it's bad and must be flipped. There's no reason to flip it, it's just obvious to the millennial. So we get games like Diablo 4 "Did you know it's GOOD to be evil? MUAHAHAHAHAHA" And it's like, what the actual fuck is going on here. Why is this such shit?

Instead of just not telling the prince story, and telling a different story, the prince must now be a rapist or something bizarre. Like they could just tell a story of a strong mother instead, like people have always done. Or a love triangle, where they choose between what their family wants, and what they want. But hey that's a trope and it's bad, so let's make your dad a rapist and your savior is a random drug dealer.

>>528014919
Having everyone namedrop you and not Earthbound is in fact erasing Earthbound from people’s memory, why do you ask?

>>528015091
My game will be immersive instead of subversive.

>>528015683
Why do you need him to spoon feed you.

>>528015972
because you're full of shit and so is he

I really really want to post something negatively about myself and my game... but I won't.

>>528016032
Just post something positive instead

>>528016153
There is nothing positive to say about myself or my game.

>>528016030
Can you show me 15 examples of tropes being subverted and it turning out well? Fucking faggot

>>528016196
kek, i knew it

>>528016249
There's probably been 5 flops as a result of flipped tropes in the Star Wars universe alone in just the last run of films and their spin offs.

>>528015826
>>528015091
You do not need to be like le heckin quirky whole some 100 game like Undertale and subvert tropes of the genre, you literally could just take EarthBound, improve it in every aspect, and drop it and people might like it the same as UT. I think that's what anon meant by "destroy your genre"

>>528016340
>uhh this one franchise has flops and did some subversion or something
you are SO full of shit lmfao

>>528016187
I didn't say it had to be true.

tactics game, square vs hexagon grids?

Even if I made it it wouldn't even be fucking fun

>>528016397
>you literally could just take EarthBound, improve it in every aspect
but that's what he did?

>>528016442
This is why you need people to spoon feed you. You're retarded. It's always the case that people yelling "Source! Source!" are stupid. You always reject the source and then wallow in your own shit. Fuck off. And yes, Star Wars subverted tropes, massively under performed and caused massive damage to the franchise, and they did it repeatedly across spin offs. You can't just say "lolololol" as a response to that.

>>528016579
Square.

we hate sources here, anecdotes only

>>528016736
All these words could have been a simple list of recently released works, but you chose to have a meltie instead.
Methinks the hole you're digging will make future archeologists very curious.

>>528016678
Undertale barely resembles earthbound outside the art though? Its standout feature was subverting RPG tropes.

>>528016678
Can you invest money to buy a house in Undertale? That's my favorite part of EarthBound.

>>528016952
"Methinks"
lmfao fucking dork. "I was proven wrong so now all I can do is wallow in my own shit haha" Exactly as predicted.

>>528016951
"Is it raining?! I DON'T FUCKING KNOW I'M NOT A METEOROLIGIST and the rain I feel on my body is just a lived anecdote I can't take into account FUCKKKKKK!"

>>528017093
>"I was proven wrong so now all I can do is wallow in my own shit haha"
But... that would be you? Notice how you're more interested in this meta conversation, whereas an honest person would have just given 5 examples by now.
Textbook liar.

>>528015363
Best to avoid dependencies.

>>528017231
retard

>>528017247
"Continues wallowing in shit, declare victory despite doing nothing but asking to be spoon fed." Typical.

Cowards and idiots.

>>528017334
Coward.

>it will rain today
>how do you know?
>because it rained yesterday

>>528017360
Do you sometimes say anything valuable, or is it always uncreative drivel that a highschooler can come up with?

>>528017586
it rained yesterday and is going to rain today so whoever said that originally and you quoted it, theyre right

>I will dev today
>how do you know?
>because I devved yesterday

I just want respect for my game, is that too much? Fuckers.

>>528017635
methinks. drivel.

Could you be anymore basic with your fake smart people words. Why don't you call me a dolt next, you fucking nobody.

>>528014754
>Reminder that you need to destroy the genre you exist in so that you can have a future
What does that even mean?

>>528017784
If your game is hot, I wouldn't mind caressing it.

>>528008374
thanks, just threw my computer out the window

>>528017784
You can start by releasing the damn fucking game.

See this? That's rogue, isn't it beautiful? The tropes of this genre were subverted and what's why all the current rogue-likes failed.

>>528017780
hell yeah

>>528016397
Modern gamers would spit out a modern Earthbound and demand that you put in a SPARE button. That you put in something else aside from the old ticking health system.
The Kalemonvo train of thought leads to nowhere.

>>528018151
Leads to a released game

>>528018151
Yes, if by "gamers" you mean "normies"
I think you can add more stuff, that improves the overall experience, and it doesn't have to be a gimmick like the SPARE button. The ticking health system of EB wasn't a gimmick in my opinion, but something that geniunely changed the gameplay style.
And this is what I was saying, EB isn't a perfect game, so it could use alot of improvements (when I played it the most piece of shit thing was the inventory), without any gimmicks or trope subversions.
I think gamers demanding something new is fully understandable, but yeah it doesn't have to be gimmicky.

>>528018879
>3 month to make one model
huh

>>528017834
You either take all of the source material's ideas and chuck them in the trash or you get this. Anons call you a clone and the polite people say the game "doesn’t try to revolutionize the genre."

>>528018971
Who the fucks only makes 1 model

>>528018151
"The Kalemonvo train of thought leads to nowhere."

False. The game released, sold, which is better than 99% of you. It also left the Dev with marketable skills and proof of knowledge. Meaning if he ever needs to, he could likely fall back into being an employed Dev. Again, putting him above most. It was pretty beautiful game with some advanced features. Very commendable.

The problem with actually making a new game is that 90% of steam's audience only plays games to drown out intrusive thoughts so anything that requires thinking and learning is venom to them.

>>528018995
>You either take all of the source material's ideas and chuck them in the trash or you get this.
So what you're saying is...don't copy/clone an existing game? Why didn't you say that then?

>>528019489
I admit it is asking someone like me a lot to have to learn some non intuitive control scheme and a bunch of logic just to play a game these days. Tried playing Heart of Iron IV and just couldn’t.

I did play a lot of Helldivers and Stardew though. Still love a great game. But it’s hard to dedicate time to something you’re not sure will pay off.

I added double Uzi to the game, some weapons I have in the to do list are the rocket launcher, flamethrower and gatling gun.

>>527998348
Was this research made for people who can only every think about something if a research was made? "People who are given tools to do things with less thinking, think less" is something anyone could have told you.

Also, forced essay writing is probably the most boring academical task one could be given. No wonder that by the end of it they've learned to bypass it.

>>528009553
>>528009991
that's steam's problem, not mine

>>528018879
either esl or underage

>>528020267
Right. It's just propaganda. If Chat has done anything it's exposed how 95% of people are npcs who don't value learning or knowing anything about the world. They like money, that's it. That's all they care about. Money. Complete animals.

>>528020234
>It's fun because you uh, shoot the same guy and there are no unique arrangements of multiple enemies
Put on the YouTuber's shoes and you'll understand everything about your game

>>528018879
That person is obviously retarded but
>full commercial rights
This one is common, all artists do that. And this is exactly why I'll never commission an artist.

Good Morning /agdg/

Glad to be here. I love you all and this place.

>>528020978
おはようございます。

>>528020819
I already know that, but this game have only like one month in development and I only made one enemy to make sure that everything is working fine. When I finish making weapons I will start making maps and enemies.

>>528020862
It's why I like Fiverr. Yeah it is 5% more expensive (for me, it's 20% for artists) but I have all rights, and I've got their ToS to fall back on.

>>528020862
>>528021491
"Full commercial rights" obviously applies to you the commissioner, are you guys dumb?

Chocolate represents that which is delightful. The haunted castle represents the allure of the unknown. The ghosts represent the imprint of the past. All of these things are important. However, don’t think for a moment that, because this game features ghosts in a haunted castle, it is an evil or negative game. On the contrary, I intend for this game to be positive, uplifting and life-affirming. However, if Stardew Valley mostly channeled the energy of the sun, Haunted Chocolatier channels the energy of the moon. Both are vital.

cuterisu in the thread!

>>528020978
Καλημέρα.

I JUST HAVE TO FINISH THIS PROJECT

>>528022674
same...it drives me insane but i have this fucking job to do...

>>528021671
>full
>except* one of the most important part
I should be able to do whatever I want with the character I commissioned.

>>528022880
NTA, Re-selling an asset is not one of the most important parts. But I wouldn't hire them based on principals of ownership.

should be able to commission fiverr models and then re-sell them on unity asset store for profit by way of units sold. Right?

>>528022880
>except* one of the most important part

>He comissioned the artist just to start re-selling the comissioned work
are you retarded

I have thought of the greatest idea for some gamblingslop. But I won't share it.

>>528023170
>>528023235
>buy food. can resell food
>buy tool. can resell tool.
>buy house. can resell house.
>buy art. plz think of the artist!!!

I am starting to think it's better to delusionally run after your goal, thinking you're going to be rich and successful, and just deal with the fallout if you crash into reality on the way there, than losing momentum by thinking "well it might not do great, best not to get my hopes up, I'm just getting experience is all" and just slowly walking to the finish line.

>>528023707
When will you guys realize that creative work and physical work are different? I already realized this a while ago and it explained alot of things.

>>528023534
so you shared that comment for what reason

>>528006349
Couldn't agree more.

>>528006592
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>528023827
I'm proud of it

>>528023831
>he thinks art is hard
Skill issue.

>>528024208
>He thinks art is whatever looks good to him
NGMI.

>>528024387
>art isn't whatever looks good to him
Skill issue.

>>528023771
Better than the cope I created, which is that I am destined to create my game, and thus I am in no rush, because if by chance I die early, I will simply finish my game in the afterlife.

OKAY...I need help.

I want subtitles to display alongside audio at the same speed and timing that the words are being said.

My thought so far is to tokenize each word and have them added to a label alongside the length of the audio itself, but that hasn't been quite right. What would you all recommend? I was debating doing it based on when the audio picks up, like a minimum decible level or something.

This is in Godot btw.

>>528024505
>I-if it looks good to me then it works!!
>Hmm after working on my game for 2 years it ended up nothing like what I expected it to b-b-but whatever just publish!!
Ok retard keep on dreaming.

>>528023771
Ya, finishing something is useful and the universe rewards bravery. Metaphysics.

>>528024810
Just git gud, it's that easy.

>>528024652
>My thought so far is to tokenize each word
Have you tried this? Did it also give you timestamps? It seems like a good idea.

https://github.com/linto-ai/whisper-timestamped

You'd only need to do it once then save the timestamps into a file.

>>528025240
>https://github.com/linto-ai/whisper-timestamped
this is very interesting, does this require an API key though?

>>528025540
uhhh, im not sure. I've used whisper before for another project and it was a local model then.

>>528025045
That doesn't make it easy. All I'm saying is it's much harder than simple game logic even if your game is a massive multiplayer AAA it's still easier to code than design an art for it, because the former is a priori, the latter is a posteriori.

>>528020234
>here's the girl's face in the ui!
>remember?? She's the character!
>I need to make sure you never forget the "appeal"
So tired of games doing this. And ironically I did it in a previous game.

>>528025891
Weak

>>528020234
Xir >>528025884 is right, you know
You need the next stage of appeal

>>528025883
It does. Art is easy when you don't have a skill issue.

Your game should require the player to make hard ethical or moral choices.

how many games has this bitch made? why should i listen to what she has to say?

>>528025883
Why are you stupid bro. What point are you trying to fucking make here. Fucking waste of time. Like you're not smart enough to make a massive multiplayer game so what are you even talking about? Do you even know what you don't know?

>>528026460
hahaha the joke is that penis goes in the vagina

>>528026460
None, but she has some good takes. Like her video on co-op games being a goldmine.

>>528026640
An alternate experience I actually had: I tried taking this advice, spent around a year working on 2 small projects I wasn't particularily inspired by, gave up from lack of motivation. Then returned to my 'dream game' concept I thought was too much, and it's the most fun and inspired ive ever been making games. Sometimes you just gotta follow your dream despite it being the bad advice. I now have a little prototype im excited about and cant wait to flesh out.

Took a bunch of time off devving, but I'm slowly getting back into it. Currently working on an enemy that splits up into a bunch of smaller enemies.

>>528018879
>full commercial rights
does this mean the artist isn't allowed to sell the asset in a cheap unity asset pack?
Because that's what I want. Is that greedy?

>>528026791
Cute!

>>528025729
I'm bookmarking this for now, currently working on a demo for a kickstarter so I'll be doing a lighter implementation, but if things turn well I will be using this. I really appreciate it anon

>>528025891
does this actually happen

>>528026887
It's not greedy no, but you'd need to find a different artist. You should probably go to a 3rd world country and find an artist who isn't smart and have him make shit for you. Not some uppity established artist who has demands and shit.

Buuull fucking shit. I started with my dream game. I failed. I learned a fuckton more and way faster than if i started with fucking snake or asteroids. Now I am a kickass dev who can do whatever the fuck I put my mind to.

>>528026638
konichiwa dude

>>528026638
Literally be devving while wearing heavy bayerdynamics

>>528026762
You would have likely gotten a lot of finishing one of the small games. But at this point just cut losses and make your dream game.

I was on the side of just make your dream game, but given that you need to market and make a steam page, and that has it's own meta to learn, it might not hurt to make a small game. And that's the path I chose. But if you already went that route and didn't like it, then ya, just make your game.

>>528018879
i would do all of that for FREE i just want recognition...

>>528020234
cosmic-call likes..

>>528026381
Being able to do it doesn't make it easy.

>>528026472
Why are you sperging out at me? You sound like a triggered retard.
>What point are you trying to fucking make here
The nature of coding is akin to a puzzle essentially, you simply need to fill in the gaps until the system works. Whereas with art and creativity there's no "destination" for a lack of a better word and any principles you can follow can only be obtained by first-hand experience and knowledge of the medium (e.g exit button should always be at the bottom for example, shake effects for collisions/impacts, menu design, game design, game art, game music etc)

>>528026887
Retards cannot see past their own butthole. That's why they screech their narrative about muh pajeet who wants to resell the art for free.
A literal common situation is a company making a full product with said art, find a client interested in it, and the art just being included in the package. It's not about selling the art by itself, it's about being barred from selling your final product and losing a client because you made the mistake of commission something from an artist with an inflated ego.

>>528027283
Konnichi-hi!

>>528027492
"Why are you sperging out at me? You sound like a triggered retard."

Because you keep babbling about programming being easier than something else. And it's fucking STUPID. And not only is it STUPID, it adds nothing. Like ok bro, making mmo's is an easy task, that's nice. Show your fucking game then.

uhhh codelets...?

>>528027872
this is for 3 animated 8x8 sprites btw

>>528027872
Wait, you can raise money on itch.io?
Maybe I can finally make a game

i know what to code but i dont want to code or do anything, not even fun stuff like visual stuff (ADHD and depression)

>>528027786
Are you genuinely arguing coding is harder than game design?
>making mmo's is an easy task
I didn't say it's easy, I said it's easier than designing music and art for it.

>>528028131
then find what interests you and try to make that instead dork, go the other way.

>>528028148
I'm genuinely saying you're retarded and will never make anything of note because you're stupid. If you'd like to prove me wrong, show me your precious fucking game designs.

>>527994532
>>528012720
>>527994723

All is going well, moved to first person, fixed blurriness of the textures (with the help of a fellow anon) and now I just need to add a menu / settings

Good morning /agdg/. Sadly, I did not die in my sleep and so I have to wake up to this shit.

>>528028340
>mindless seething
Lol ok.

>>528028565
No, don't hide. You said programming is easy. So where is your beautiful code, that fit your needs like a puzzle. Do you have anything? Have you done anything?

>>528027872
>another asset pack that is just portfolio bragging
>will still be in """"""development"""""" in 5 years
>for a pack that got barely anything to make an actual complete game
it never fails to amaze me how scummy the artists on itch.io are

>>528027872
i'd rather learn my own art or hire someone to make something out of a sketch that i made, games that use asset packs have no identity.
imagine the asset pack used in vampire survivors was already used in another popular game before it.

>>528028064
False alarm, turns out it's just a way to sell bundles with a sales goal, not some crowdfunding thing. My game will have to wait.

Please give me some ideas on what to change for the better graphically?

>>528029539
Make the hanging plants appear sooner, so they're not suddenly popping in all at once.

>>528029539
I can't improve it... It's perfect...

>>528027872
Hmm. is this guy a popular fella? Gives of free stuff so this is a kind of giving back?
I want to believe it's demand, but it's too good to be true

>>528029539
you makin a braid-like?

>>527994428 (OP)
i want more games that look like this
and with male characters like this. I feel like every indie game is about loli with a cape/poncho

>>528029630
ah thank you! I didn't notice that!. I will just cull the tiles a bit further out from the screens edges, that will fix it.

>>528027689
Anon what does "full commercial rights except reselling the model" mean to you?

>>528029805
mina the hollower.
if i had that level of artistic skill i wouldnt be making a game with that ugly gbc color pallete desu

>>528029539
It's still ridiculously dark. I didn't even realise that white thing was giving off light at first. At least, I think it is.

>>527998348
I'm not sure if 54 people, 18 per section, split across a 20-year gap, in a specific geological area can be taken as a solid sample size and it also wouldn't surprise me if people started to just copy-paste if you're writing a SAT essay every month and you can just delegate it to the AI, although it seems like they had to perform other tasks as well outside the essay writing?

Whatever the case, many are mentioning how there's a 'right' way to use AI, for research and consulting, which I agree with, but even seasoned Developers at large companies have expressed that they've felt a neurological-like fatigue from using AI tools. So it's worth taking this as a warning that you should take a break from prompting at least twice a week.
What's really concerning is that they only tested adults, but every kid growing up now has a phone with some kind of LLM. Makes me think everyone is betting on the AI takeover because AI-induced cognitive decline will necessitate it.
>>528008504
>Someone at my job un-ironically brought up cognitive debt.
>Then he goes on to over complicate every fucking little thing.
My favorite thing about modern development is that React/Typescript developers continue to beat this drum despite being one of the largest sources of complication in a code base, management keeps trying to introduce 'agile' with the most complex Kanban boards possible, and NOBODY thinks about how the business actually makes money and tries to focus on that.

>>528029642
made me smile
>>528029781
I guess so probably more like spelunky but with infinite generation

>>528029539
the getting up animation isnt as fluid as the climbing animation

I'm fantasizing about that 1 player count being a big youtuber recording a let's play again...

>>528029539
Edge/Rimlight on the blocks like acrolyte

>>528026791
It's nice to see you again, I hope your warioware-like is going well.

>>528029539
it's honestly already good and i want to play it because making a rooster in a suit-character in such dungeon makes me ask so many question

- who is he
- what kind of world is this (everybody is a chicken in it???)
- why this buisenessman-guy is in that dark dungeon?

Also idk what you trying to convey but adding more broad shoulders can make your chicken look more cool and stylish.
But im not sure what is your idea.
If chicken played as a joke - leave it like that (skinny)

Here i tried to draw what i mean.
PS:
Btw i love how you did his suit blue. This really makes the main character to pop up on that dark background

>>528026791
>fairy mc
gmi, gmi indeed

>>528029956
>if i had that level of artistic skill i wouldnt be making a game with that ugly gbc color pallete desu
You will never have artistic skills to figure out how to draw a sreenshot in a gb-palette so don't worry, anon.

The AI can now do battles off screen, win/lose them, and can get injured. That was one of the last major hurdles with the AI, so that's fun.

>>528027872
What's the point of having a sales goal bundle vs just having a normal bundle? Does it expire after some time? Does the artist promise something else in addition to the assets?

>>528030001
I am trying really hard to balance that, because I want the dark areas to feel scary, and the fully lit up areas to still feel a little dreary.
>>528030072
Yeah I haven't added that one yet but it definitely needs to be done.
>>528030208
That is already in it, but its kinda hard to see in the webm/without light sources close to the tiles.
>>528030447
That looks cool! I do want him to be able to get some upgrades (double jump, wall jump, some items you can use and both throw as weapons e.g. the shotgun can only be shot twice, but then you can throw it as a weapon as well) so maybe I can make him get ripped as an upgrade and make him punch way harder haha - I can't lie he does look cooler like that lol.
I can post about what the rough background/story of the game is or I can keep it a secret until demo day.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/353540/Stephens_Sausage_Roll/
a game like this could be price at $30 and still sell in 2016

>>528031130
forgot the webm I made for this post

Why is there a female protagonist tag on steam

Why isn't there a male protagonist tag on steam

Why do we live in this cursed timeline

>>528031398
Long forgotten agdg game vagante might have something to take notes on idk

>really want to work on my game
>have to do boring job.
>keep thinking about my game and feel terrible which makes me unproductive and i work slower and do less
>which makes me more depressed
>so i do shitty job and don't do anything for my game and get less money because im being paid per hour
might as well just leave my job and do games. at least i will be happy
it feels terrible
i dont wan to do this job. what is this life.

>>528030720
game looks like crap tho

>>528031743
Male is the default. Steam is sexerst

>>528031320
I'm still debating if my game should be 30 or closer to 25.

>>528030447
STUPID NIGGER WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THAT PITIFUL EXCUSE FOR A "GAME" FANART BEFORE YOU GIVE ME ANY!? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU DROOLING SUB-GORILLA-IQ RETARD YOU ARE DEAD YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD

>>528031965
haha

>>528031937
You know what's cooler than 24?

>>528031320
>next two games are flops
the 2019 algorithm change truly murdered the indie industry
now the only games that do well are streamerbait slop

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1127660/Mask_Quest/?curator_clanid=44937201

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1127680/Hypnocult/?curator_clanid=44937201

>>528032041
STOP LAUGHING YOU USELESS MONKEY WASTE OF LIFE YOU ARE NOTHING! YOU ARE NOTHING! YOU HEAR ME? NOTHING!!!!!!

>>528031965
Relax, clearly he just loves cock

>>528031743
Because tags are user contributions and users didn't bother enough to make the male protagonist tag a thing.

>>528032110
24.99?

>tfw forgot something small weeks after working on it
>>528031965
I feel this often. /agdg/ has no taste when it comes to gaymes.

>>528032156
what if his first game was his magnum opus? like suda51 with killer7

>>528032340
Twennyfaaaaive

>>528032265
huh?

>>528031743
because 90% of games have a male protagonist.

>>528029539
a squish anim when he lands

>>528031828
no it doesn't you retard

>>528032859
um sweatie didnt you look at the image? cleatly notgood

>>528033004
>He doesn't know about dev music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blv9qVYlioY

>>528031965
i just think that chicken in a shit and with a shotgun looks cool

>>528032649
Feels good that my game is on the 10%.

>>528005392
use-case?

>>528033187
>anons 4 day side project gets cool fan art already
schizo meltie inbound

>>528033187
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>528033509
Enginedevs are too powerful.

>>528033187
>>528030447
Ok, now this is starting to get annoying.

my games won't make me any money
and that's okay

>>528033641
the nodev recoils at the sight of progress

>>528033187
Don't mind the envious nodevs, post more fanart from AGDG game.

The only game I can think of making is an Only Up style game. Not sure why. Nothing else interests me. Will work on this.

>>528033757
i'm sorry, but you fags make shit for the worst looking games. the /v/ loligame never got any fanart at all and it's better than 90% of the garbage here

>>528033187
KILL YOURSELF. I'm FUCKING TIRED OF THIS FEMINIZED OVERSOCIALIZED GAY ASS MADE UP HIERARCHY THAT ONLY EXISTS TO DIVIDE PEOPLE. YOU DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE. YOU ARE MAKING THE WORLD WORSE FOR EVERYONE. YOU ARE THE POISON THAT IS DESTROYING THE WORLD. IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF EVERY PERSON WHO WANTS TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE TO KILL YOU. THERE IS NO VALUE AND NO MERITOCRACY HERE. A FUCKING STRUCTURE BUILT ON FEELINGS AND HIGH SCHOOL TRIBALISM. REMOVE YOURSELF FROM EXISTENCE SCUM. YOUR PARENTS NEVER WANTED YOU THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SUCH AN ATTENTION SEEKING FAGGOT

>>528034009
add horror elements and sprinkle it with some bit of crafty buildy

>>528033683
Any game worth playing is worth paying for. Your games are not worth playing.

>>528034137
>>528034169
damn thats craazy

Guys rate my first ever pixel art.

>>528034280
contrarian retard

So why is the FULL CAPS retard angry this time and why his posts are never getting deleted?

>>528033683
if you had 5 dollars in your pocket and you were hungry, would you buy a sandwich or you game?

>>528034291
redraw it right now, using itself as a reference. it'll be better.

>>528034291
sonichu

>>528034291
10/10

>>528034214
yeah that's kinda the allusion lol

>>528034370
cause he's spitting facts

>>528034370
no game

>>528034370
It seems fully deserved.

>>528034137
Serves them right for being /v/ instead of AGDG.

>>528034617
NO ONE WHO HAS NO GAME WOULD EXPEND THIS MUCH ENERGY TO RIGHT THE WRONGS OF THIS CURSED THREAD. THINK, FAGGOT

>>528034849
I can not comprehend the mentally ill mind

>>528035006
IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE TRUTH OF WHAT I'M SAYING AND THE DEEP PROBLEMS OF THIS COMMUNITY THEN EITHER YOU'RE UNDERAGE OR MENTALLY RETARDED, AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO FUCK UP YOUR OWN LIFE SO YOUR WORDS MEAN NOTHING

>>528032670
Perfect! thankyou!

I added the water back in.

>>528033187
haha cheers <3


>>528031965
>>528032265
>>528033512
lmfao gaybo

>>528035206
haha

post game and I'll draw you some fan art, spergio

>>528029539
more contrast, the bright bits should be brighter while the dark bits can remain dark

>>528035308
https://nrasko.itch.io/the-frydarian-tale

>>528035308
>doxx yourself for a promise that holds no weight
words are wind, retard

my game has no rule 34... nothing on e621....
it's over

>>528035447
What is your Game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYqYbeRKAPI
zukowskis game

>>528035403
well, I guess you're just gonna have to keep seething then

>>528035239
>he takes the side of the disruptors over the side of truth.
You're a gay oversocialized slime. Your life will go nowhere. You're a husk without a soul and without autonomy. Your wholesome chungus agreeable socially conscious routine would be more at home on reddit. Good luck with your life because with a deficient brain like that it won't be long before you fuck everything up for yourself

>>527994428 (OP)
Devs, when will you elevate your game's diversity and finally represent siamese twins?
It should be the next step after vitilogo

>>528030002
I'm not totally anti agile, although it is a problem when EVERYTHING is agile. If you're making a big new critical system and you don't know what you don't know, it's dumb to try and put that in a box, estimate it, and rush it out. It's better to just let a senior dev spend a month on it, not force any arbitrary check ins, and get the fucking thing working as it should. However, on the flip side, some devs are pieces of garbage and need to held accountable. I overall enjoy agile. But like I said, have seen instances where it fucks shit up.

>>528035683
Seeing how you react to others getting fanart, I'm starting to think you never deserved any. And I'm glad you haven't gotten any fanart, because you really don't deserve it. You should develop yourself before developing any games.

>>528035730
https://youtu.be/xoIkWyL2t3k?t=3431

>>528035730
This is un-ironically a good idea. Imagine an enemy general being this. That would be fucking funny but also un-nerving. "This fucker has 2 brains against my one. Shit!"

>>528035447
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=project_nortubel+

>>528035683
post game lol

>>528035730
siamese twins is peak coop slop

>>528035239
>>528033512
>FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Sorry anon i was just really inspired by an idea of a chicken in a blue suit exploring caves
i think it looks cool

Remember to have a real ethnic diversity of anime girls.

:D

>>528036060
I'm a better human than you are, and in the long run I will get more fanart than 99% of devs here. The general trend I'm observing is that I'm only being treated like shit here, while people outside are much more generous and amicable towards me. This place is a cesspit that rewards feminine clownish behaviour. There is no global ladder of game quality. Every single dev who falls for the social hivemind pays for it in some way. Here's a word of advice: both in business and in art it's detrimental to your well-being to be aggreeable, and too many of you are aggreeable. You're like skittish women, huddling to the herd at the first sight of danger. You're afraid of going against the grain. You're afraid of being ostracized or disliked or excommunicated. This makes you closer to women than men. And in case you never knew this, women suck at building lasting and successful things. The fear of social rejection always ruins you in the end.

I think my destiny is not to make games but to make toys! Maybe I could have a little business on Etsy or something selling little playable dioramas with a mix of clay sculpting and 3 printing.
What do you think?

>>528036703
dioramas with tiddy waifus? might work

>>528033187
>>528036587
Epic reddit moment. The schizo is Darth Vader and chicken man is like Harry Potter and our brave agdg heroes are the Avengers. We're really sticking it to Putin sisters!

>>528036703
Go for it. It's probably a growing business. Toys for adults. I just bought a Roman Soldier for like $90. It looks bronze but I think it's just resin. So looks great, actually low quality, but awesome looking. Everyone wins.

>>528036624
Fygoon?

>>528035239
interested in the technicals of your fluid system...
did you follow any paper/article?

>>528037169
That's what I assumed as well. Some boring troll attempt, with some attempt at humor, but falling short. Mixed in with some attempt to prove they understand social dynamics and are above the average person, while saying nothing of actual substance. The mind of a mid to low intellect mad man. Fygoon.

>>528037028
ummm..based???

>>528031398
cool game

captcha = wvhvg (vg)

>>528037427
Fygoon?

Is chicken man /ourguy/?

>>528037237
very basic fall-and-spread system, similar to minecraft except source blocks of water don't exist, that's the only difference, pretty much the same way any falling sand game does it, except my pieces of sand are not single pixels, they're 12x12 pixel sprites so I can give each water tile its own height depening on how "full" that tile is of water.

>>528038341
lol

Ok, bros
I am ready to start my game dev Journey
In order to make money, ofc

What s the most sought after indie genre that hasn t been doberman to death and back??

>>528038457
good luck man

would a Dungeon Keeper-like work in today day and age ?

I'm making a Dungeon Keeper -like.

>>528038457
>In order to make money, ofc
hobby

>>528038457
Pong-like

>>528038548
Any idea for the direction I should take?

>>528038457
space station 13 clone
yandere simulator clone

>>528038692
genuinely no
you'll only make money if you're patient in this industry
there is no fast money in game development
but if you're willing to invest years of effort into making a good game, then any genre is viable

>>528038692
Start with Pong.

>>528035950
>It's better to just let a senior dev spend a month on it, not force any arbitrary check ins, and get the fucking thing working as it should.
Yeah skunkworks shouldn't be subject to fictitious accounting, misses the whole point.
>However, on the flip side, some devs are pieces of garbage and need to held accountable.
Remote work and AI has made this problem so much worse. People are either working multiple jobs on the low or are getting past weak interview processes with AI and then totally failing to do any actual work.
The easiest way to one-up the job market right now is to actually learn the programming language you're using and creating small side-projects.

>>528038814
Schedule 1 looks like a joke of a world injected with a set of 3 well tought sistems. It doesn t look that hard

>>528038457
Pong contest with visual novel and rogue like aspects.
plot twist: your enemy is... you...

>>528038814
>any genre is viable
That's actually not true. Genre is the number one most important choice if you're looking to make a commercially viable product, as foretold by our lord and savior.

>>528033641
>>528037028
>>528031965
>>528034169
>>528033512
try making an actually good game

>>528038861
As a matter of fact I will do

>>528038341
hahahahahaha
>>528036587
based
>>528037517
based
>>528037521
ty


thanks for the pointers fellas.

So what exactly is stopping me from completely vibecoding my entire game?

>>528039096
Kind of wild that the best genres to pick are some of the easiest to make. Sim games are the #1 best selling games for Indies. That's a dream.

>>528039804
scalability, but just vibe code it with that in mind and you'll be right mate

>>528039804
Nothing. You solve problems. If the problem is solved, it's fine. People are slowly learning that not all code must be Silicon Valley level genius shit. You can write easy to understand simple code. It's ok.

depressing.

>Make small solodev games quickly, test them out with Steam demos and pick the viral one
>Actually spend years and hundreds of thousands on masterpieces. That's the only way now
>Actually just do small things that make OK money and you might be able to stack up enough non-hits to keep going

>>528039542
i fucking love such games where you can destroy walls. Like in Noita
please work on this game and finish it and release it.
just keep the character. i wont play as any other boring character like knight or anime girl.

>>528040150
I could easily see Thomas getting his cheeks busted in prison. Dude humiliates himself for no reason.

>>528040150
t. retard here I meant to use this pic

>>528039096
That's not quite what Mr. Z says. Certain genres have a greater probability of success but almost every genre does have a viable game or two in it. There is just a higher chance that a mid survival craft sim job horror game will make money than a mid puzzle game. But excellent puzzle games, excellent metroidvanias, etc. still can make it. It's just hard mode

>>528040380
Spiderweb software is not something to look up to.

>>528040624
I'd argue he's the highest quality standard most of us could live up to.

i'm making a visual novel
without the images

>>528041042
Look guys we got a real Tolstoy over here..

>>528041042
that's called a novel i think

>>528041042
Same, but I am also dropping the novel part

>>528040590
No, that is exactly what he's said many times in many different interviews. Genre is the number one most important thing to think about. You shouldn't try to play on ultra-hard mode as a beginner trying to ship your first commercial game. Get your head out of your ass.

OKAY SO I want to display a line of code part by part alongside audio. One anonw as gracious to give me an audio ai analyzer but that's a bit too heavy duty for what I'm doing

Right now, I have a AUDIO SPECTRUM ANALYZER appending the next word for the RichTextLabel text dependent on magnitude. My issue now is that I want to add in BBCode to the text as well.

Currently, my idea is to create an array of labels added at a specific word indice when the word would be displayed. So it would be stripping the original phrase using RegEx, splitting it into an array, finding the instances where BBCode exists, adding those to a matched word from the split array, and finally adding it back to the text that is supposed to be displayed.

>>528040150
I wonder if he'd pay me to fix his shaders + rendering?

>>528041196
Genre is the most important choice but I was correcting your assertion that not every genre is viable, in the strict sense of the word. I have met Z in person and done his masterclass, I know exactly what he thinks about this.

>>528041302
What the fuck is BBC ode? Fucking cucks and their fetishes

>>528041426
>I have met Z in person and done his masterclass

>>528041426
is Z in the room with us now?

>>528041426
Practically speaking, it's not viable. e.g. You will never make a successful PvP hero shooter as a solo indie dev. That's just retarded. Instead, if you really want to make a shooter, make some friendslop PvE-coop shooter or a narrative-driven shooter.

First time attempting to pixel art.
Very painful. I thought learning to draw would help. But I feel like it didn't.

>>528035730
Wait... That's my fetish!

>>528042016
learning to sculpt will help

>>528042438
For 2d sprites?

>>528042016
Dude just draw.
it's literally all you have to do. Also just draw pixel art. do what you need.
step by step

How difficult should I make the puzzles in my game?
It's not a puzzle game, but there are some puzzles in the area.

Right now, the only puzzle in the game is in the library. You need to put the books in the right spot of the book case, but it's pretty easy.

I don't want that to be the only puzzle in the game, but at the same time I don't want the additional puzzles to be as easy as that one.

Tell me what you bros think, currently trying to get the walking sounds back because now they just play for longer than I walk. https://gofile.io/d/z37h5Q

>>528042645
in time you will understand....

>>528042750
keep in mind that your players are normies

do them as difficult as Resident Evil 2 Reemake puzzles and youll be fine

Is now a good time for another Portal clone?

>>528042701
I can tell you probably use a drawing tablet. Lines like these are hard to get with a mouse. I might need a tablet...

>>528043049
>I can tell you probably use a drawing tablet. Lines like these are hard to get with a mouse. I might need a tablet...
wait what
you don't have a tabled?

Obviously get one. It should be N1 step. Lol...
im using
also don't get memed into buying an expensive screen-tablet.
Im just using XP-pen. i can buy Wacoom or screen-tablet but i just dont want
(also prepare your butt - it will be burning because first week trying to understand how to draw with your hand while looking at screen will be awful...but then you will quickly adapt)

>>528042750
If there are puzzles in a non-puzzle game I'd say they should be pretty easy. You can only get away with difficult puzzles if the game is clearly advertised as being about that, otherwise players are just going to get mad. Think about the level of stuff in Hogwarts or God of War. Or kek even Bioshock Infinite like >>528043004

>>528040624
He is

>>528042990
would it be worth a playthrough just to see how the puzzles in that game are handled?
And are they different from the ps1 version? That's the only version I've played
>>528043004
So I should just solve the puzzle for the player? lol :(

>>528043049
not him, but they're a good investment even if you aren't an artfag, especially if you buy a used one made by Huion or XP Pen.
Decent as a second monitor and you can program the hot keys. I use mine for level design in Unity and the hot keys are assigned to commands on "Prefab World Builder" (its an editor asset for placing objects)

>>528043707
addendum: if the puzzle is part of a "secret" or some easter egg challenge it's ok to be hard out of the blue. What I originally said is moreso if that puzzle is apart of the main game path and a player is forced to get through it.

>>528043049
>>528043487
Even if you're a total poorfag, you should get a screen tablet. They're as cheap as $150-200 nowadays. The time you'll save is well worth it.

>>528033187
>>528030447
>>528036587
>>528042701
niggerfag nodev attention seeker

>>528043487
>>528043915
Thanks for the suggestions, I hope I will get to it eventually :)

mashallah

Success breeds jealousy.

>>528039542
>water doesn't extinguish the fuse

>>528034137
>the /v/ loligame never got any fanart at all
If you mean aggy-chan I made fanart of her awhile back

Reminder that enginedevs are nodevs and are eternal crabs.

>>528043949
>>528043707
That makes sense, thanks. I do have the hogwarts game on steam, so I'll give that a try to see how they do the puzzles.
I do have 3 secret areas in the game so far, so maybe I'll try making a difficult puzzle for one of those.

But I don't want to just add them for the sake of adding them, the one in the library section, while easy, makes sense as to why it exists in the game.
I guess I'm gonna have to give this a bit more thought. Thanks guys.

>>528044046
>Even if you're a total poorfag, you should get a screen tablet. They're as cheap as $150-200 nowadays. The time you'll save is well worth it.
Screen tablets suck as and just a meme. money won't make you a better artist.
just fucking draw.
All you need is a digital pen with pressure. (so ...pretty much any tablet would work)

Also screen tablets killing your wrist. If you see artists talking about their hand being dead after 30lvl - it's thanks to screen tablets.

>>528044046
post art

>>528039804
>vibecoding
what the fuck does that mean?

Dress fygoon up as a clown and crucify him

>>528044649
having AI code everything

What's a better tool to start learning music? BeepBox or Reaper?

>>528044308
Do you have a collection of all your agdg art?

>>528044405
I'll do it. You'll see.

>>528039905
What's stopping me from pasting my entire code into chat ever time I want to add shit?

>>528045136
i would pay money to see them having sex with each other

I will never get a f-art

>>528045201
fuck up

>>528045201
He's called Spiderweb Software because his anus is full of cobwebs.

>>528045232
What is your Game?

>>528044523
Don't draw with your wrist. Use your bigger muscles. It's a retarded waste of time and energy to use shitty hardware when there's better hardware available nowadays. I started on a Wacom One, which was tiny and forced me to draw with my wrist. Then, I got some cheap Chinese non-screen tablet. It was mostly alright, but on one out of every 50 or so strokes, it would freak out, jump slightly, and force me to ctrl-Z which got real tiresome real quick. Then I got the $200 XPPEN 13.3, and instantly I could just always render whatever stroke I intended. Maybe it depends on the person, but I never really got the hand-eye coordination down of drawing on one thing but looking at another. I'm 10x more accurate if I'm looking directly at where my pen is.

>>528045201
I would pay money to not have to see it.

>>528045519
>Don't draw with your wrist. Use your bigger muscles.
so...draw with my dick? hmmm...

>>528044523
>Also screen tablets killing your wrist. If you see artists talking about their hand being dead after 30lvl - it's thanks to screen tablets.
skill issue. I use a Wacom 24" screen tablet for 7-8 hours a day at work and have never had an issue with hand cramps.
The problem with people getting hand cramps is that theyre faggots and think every tube-shaped object needs to be held like its a dick.

>>528045519
>but on one out of every 50 or so strokes, it would freak out, jump slightly, and force me to ctrl-Z which got real tiresome real quick.
such stuff don't exist these days because it's a different market (idk maybe if you buy a 5$ tablet but those dont exist) and people dont sell ultra glitchy garbage anymore
the XP-pen i posted is fine to start.
that guy didn't even decide if he wants to be an artist. Buying expensive screen tablet in such situation is a stupid idea.

>>528044917
Nah. They're all scattered across my pc. I wouldn't know where to post them.

>>528046168
this, just buy a big one, screens are for retards that didn't practice their drawing skills on paper and pen first.

>>528045006
Based

I don't think I like games anymore.

>>528045006
? Take your meds

ran a code analysis in my project. no errors found or warnings.

>>528046656
ooo chuddy mad

>>528045017
It only remembers like 600 lines last I checked. Maybe it's a bit more these days, but I doubt it could handle 2k.

>>528044523
>>Also screen tablets killing your wrist.
You're not supposed to draw with your wrists unless it's drawing finer details

>>528047026
Really? Why the fuck is that?

>>528045519
What tablet would you recommend for someone without a laptop or PC to connect it to?

I decided shitty pixel art is my aesthetic. Thank you for helping me out, /agdg/. I promise next time I'm here I'll have a game to show, hopefully one that makes people's eyes bleed.

>>528047163
context limits, it takes a lot of computer power to generate responses
unlimited prompt size would damage the hardware

>>528018879
this is why ai have mog you out of existence
metahumans win again
we dominate you brutally

>>528047237
IDK. Try asking >>>/ic/dtg/ but it's far cheaper to just get a laptop + a screen tablet.

I honestly should make my own anime girl low poly generator for myself.

>>528047026
I was able to get chatgpt to figure out a bug in my Godot project by posting the full project as a zip and telling it where to start looking. It'll figure out other relevant files on its own to figure out the context.

>>528044874
BeepBox is a whole lot simpler but is really only good for chiptune music.

>>528044874
FL Studio.
>>528044649
its when you code with a vibrating buttplug in your ass. All of the best programmers do it.

>>528044874
Musescore

>>528044704
I spent 30 minutes making this instead of working on my game

>>528044308
nice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAX0trP3hIQ
Love this guy.

>>528026640
>common knowledge that was broadcasted everywhere 10 years ago
wow

ship enemies
beside going from one screen edge to the other, I couldn't think of any smart behavior for them, their job will be to soak the damage and saturate air with bullets and missiles
still need 2 flying enemies for dd

>>528049270
you understand what this have implication for right?

>>528050069
No..?

I think I'll make a puzzle game. It's something I'm a fan of as a non-gamer (I play games but I'm not obsessed with them) and it's relatively easy to make I assume.

"puzzle game" means literally nothing stupid normalfaggot

Holdin'

14 days..... 14 days and i can't bring myself to do a g**damned thing....
i don't deserve a single download.....

>>528050410
Do it. Just remember creating something is always hard.

>>528050067
Why have you decided to allow it to stay in place instead of making luftrausers-like?

Added a trinket between working on other things. It lets you view the enemy's stamina, which works pretty much the same as your own. I might make it so lots of enemies will get extra moves if you reduce them to below half hunger. Like it'd be cool if they get desperate and get a grab move that lets them bite you for huge damage, reducing their hunger.

>>528050721
It's temporary for deving only.
It's easier to test with gravity off.

>>528051013
>couch co-op.
ngmi

>>528050903
your game's combat is cool and its main selling point. keep it up anon.

>ALERT
>ALERT
Thomas is reviewing demos again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Geh0RYU80

How do you go from this

>>528052410
Any aggy games?

>>528052547
... to this?

I should be sleeping right now so I can work on my game tomorrow.
But I don't want tomorrow to come.

>>528047929
oh interesting, good to know

>>528052547
>>528052606
Dread of the consequences of your inaction
>>528052614
I know that feel... In the result you will be procrastinating today an tired tomorrow

My game ideas are nothing but trash.

>>528053304
Here are some good ideas: https://20_games_challenge.gitlab.io/challenge/

>>528044216
Looks gmi

>>528050543
work on you game today, sis. Do something so you break the streak. Do it right now!!

>>528052410
> generic looking dude
> high production quality
grifter detected, will not watch

>>527994428 (OP)
How do I ensure my main girl is punk enough but not too punk? Any connoisseurs here that can point me in the right direction?

>>528045006
Right now I don't have that much time to waste, but when demon day is over I'll take the time to save all the seething that this game is making because is hilarious.
>>528050543
picrel sis

>>528053127
>>528052614
>>528052606
fuck bocchi and her lewd sexual mammary glands

0 and i kms myself some day
1-4 i'm successful
5-8 i'm unsuccessful
9 i change the world

>>528056703
rolling for 0

>>528056880
You got what you wanted but at what cost....

>>528056880
n-no it only applied to my post
it says im going to be successful
get your own future

>>528030447
>Badass chicken guy
You know what? Based.

>>528057060
arisu when she sees a tiny white pecker

Bug fixed itself

>>528056880
>>528057060
>>528057070

>>528057216
why does the anti arisu poster hate white males?

>>528056703
hmmmm!

>>528057292
because brown people suffer from cute aggression

>>528052259
Thank you.

>>528057070
Sorry sweatie, you're going to be successful then kys later. It has been rolled

>>528012612
i hope i will be naturally good at music production when i get to that step

>>528017784
*spits gum on your head*

currently at 3 characters designed for my fightan game, need another 12 to be competitive but i feel creatively bankrupt because of extended social isolation

>>528059629
Nice.

>>527928853
Ahem good sir, its called le-banjo-le-kazooie voice or as an alternative i might accept mumble-y/rapping, not “miside bit bops”, thanking you very much kindly sirs.

>>527939261
Ive heard that if your environment is cluttered it affects your mental energy and hormones. I know for a fact you gotta choose how to spend your mental energy every day because I've seen the difference its why i always try to go to bed before 10pm now and get up at about 6:20 am, for me i can do thensame thing in about 15minutes at 7 am that would take like 45min yo over an hour anytime past about 6pm, and i also noticed that having a proper desk you can sit at and lean over vs sitting in the couch with one of those laptop mini lap cushion desks makes a difference too i didn't think it would but the physical act of leaning forwards and not having to look where to put the mouse and where to lift and place everything every-time you need to get up just helps you to lock in without realising it without any extra effort. And dont even get me started on gooning or noting down new thoughts and ideas… there goes hours of no work

>>528026791
There are two ways to win: either defeat all of the split-up enemies, or leave just one, and he'll run away in fear.

is anyone messing with reinforcement learning an ai to play your game?

>>528018151
>>528018584
>>528018792
>>528019259
Kalemonvo is a game that was created and grew in an environment defined by the context of the covid pandemic and the inner circle's regime. Osur learned very little because in fact he built his entire game with very little resistance, so he never had to do much self-reflection. I've seen how he discusses games and how he thinks about his game. It's clear that the guy learned nothing. It's highly likely if he tries to make another game it will shit the bed and he won't know why

>>528053991
Make her try to act all cool, but every now and then she accidentally trips and falls or does something silly.

hitori the obscene bocchi

>>528061691
osur is a fucking normie. lost all respect for the guy

>>528061348
Neat!

Tfw a corn asset pack you bought off FAB adds 4000 drawcalls to your scene with only 10 stalks placed.

>>528062453
THIS NIGGA BOUGHT CORN

Made with midjourney. wtf bros.
https://x.com/nickfloats/status/1935537513025728849

Not clicking

>>528062497
Uncanny valley

>>528062085
Nice bocchis

>>528062725
that's my fucking wife you're talking about, guy

>>528061691
>>528062290
*Sewer of Currymongrel

>>528062497
>>528062983
why is it yellow?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-rejects-copyrights-ai-generated-art-lacking-human-creator-2025-03-18/

AI cucks????

>>528047026
with claude you can either point it to a repo or upload files manually
I regularly do a "make this less shit" prompt and generally get quite a few things that can be improved or fixed

>>528063685
>fed lines
>piss filter

>>528062083
No I mean, how do I dress them?

Godotters is there a simple way to create a sprite ghosting effect to show my pixel art character moving at high speeds? My character is composed of multiple sprite2D nodes

>>528020267
Science is about proving obvious things to make them verifiable evidence. You are the kind of guy that would never come up with gravity and forever believe Earth is flat because its obvious. Yeah, sure your intuition tells you that people who use ChatGPT are fucking retards, but other people can think it helps people think better or some other dumb shit. The point is that you can now show people proof that AI fags are stupid and lazy and you can write about it in other scientific papers.

>>528065920
There's literally a built-in Godot thing to do just that and it's in animatedsprite somewhere.

>>528065357
Leather jacket, pleated skirt, fishnet stockings, thick-soled leather boots, white tee shirt with or without print, heavy belt, (spiked) collar.

>>528065920
As your character moves, spawn top_level snapshot duplicates of each Sprite2D that your character is composed of and create a tween that applies any effects you want and then calls queue_free on itself.

>>528066642
Thank you anon. I shall put your wisdom to use.

If you modify a sound can you still use it without invoking copyright?

Deltarune sampled the mario “Mama Mia” and was able to be sold, does that mean it’s acceptable?

>>528067251
In copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major copyrightable elements of a first, previously created original work (the underlying work). The derivative work becomes a second, separate work independent from the first. The transformation, modification or adaptation of the work must be substantial and bear its author's personality sufficiently to be original and thus protected by copyright. Translations, cinematic adaptations and musical arrangements are common types of derivative works.

>>528067127
My stated idea of punk is twenty years in the past and more of the "I like the punk scene but don't care for being sloshed on cheap booze"-kind. Just as a heads-up.

>>528067530
Exactly.