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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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I (Kris) am in love with Susie.
Give Tenna to Noelle she needs to play earthbound on a CRT.
For me? Its FAT DARKNER ASS.
>>528004308 (OP)>Someone saved my shitty comicnice.
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i love my boy ralsei
I LOVE TENNA! I LOVE TV!!!
drew him in Broadcast Illusion pose...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLvMo8laN1o
>>528004390You (Kris) will be raped by me (me)
>>528004405Please do NOT make this into Persona where all your classmates become your party members!
>>528004405unimportant gag characters dont get to be party members
time to draw Kris X Gaster angst
is there a pairing name for this
>>528004476>soogie booby>freckles>bulgeI cum
>>528004476NOOO Susie you can't drink that you'll go Hyper Mode and Sans will eat all of Kris's pancakes
>>528004459I FORGOT HIS TV BELT AND THE TV SYMBOL NOOOOOOOOO
>>528004476I wish we could let the schizo bosses live in our Castle Town...I want to hang out with Jevil at the bar...
Continuing here
>>528004154 #
The magic is a given sure but that doesn't really account for Susie throwing Kris around like a football, and we see in the overworld she's strong enough to lift Kris clean off their feet.
>>528004212 #
Susie plays the drums though, badly. Kris is the one playing the guitar except he's not, we are.
>>528004160 #
There's definitely some cross over, there's a physicality to the dark world considering Berdly gets ice coma'd and Kris cuts his hand and bleeds for real. I'm more than willing to believe that Kris could straight up fuck up quite a few people in town if they wanted to. They jump out of their second story window seemingly regularly ffs
>>528004476i find Catti incredibly annoying and bitchy and Jockington is just a one hit gag character.
>>528004670>SizablePaternalFigure
I wish I had a Kris-themed cup/mug to drink apple juice out of
or chocomilk / hot chocolate
>>528004697You're lucky you got one chapter you fucking BIRD
>>528004405sorry toby can only program four party members, and only three at a time
small indie dev please understand
We've had some talk about the best 3+4 song but what about the worst because I can still never forgive this fucking saxophone soundfont for replacing My Castle Town's immaculate vibes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzHmlb3rMBQ
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>>528004845What the fuck is your problem, this song rules
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>>528004802PLAP PLAP PLAP
SUSIE!!!
FUCK THE SCHIZO, SUSIE!!!
>>528004405I remember unironically thinking this would happen in Chapter 2 release days. Except I also though Asriel would be the last party member. Hahaha...
>>528004723wrong reply. meant for
>>528004405
>>528004405Deltarune if God was good.
>>528004985He's cloppin to My Little Boney
>>528004721When you are injured in the dark world, your soul itself is damaged. That's why Berdly's arm is numb and unresponsible, his soul is damaged. Also why he's in coma, his soul was destroyed by freezing it solid.
>>528004985Yes
He is the secret weapon against the vicious Schrodinger's Cat that is FRIEND
>>528004721Look at this INSANE strength feat
(just a joke post, anon)
>>528005095she looks like a klaptrap in this sprite
>>528005095>picDess did that already
>>528004917Oh she's getting grandchildren anon
Not with Susie though
>>528004405Why do people latch onto non-characters like Catti or Jockinton? It's like being a fan of Bumblebee Man from Simpsons.
>>528005226Finally something I fuck my fist to
Catty and Bratty will be a boss battle in the future chapters. QC is next.
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post old gems
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJs5_s0Fsbs
>>528004405How about next time you come up with Deltarune eh bucko
Catti could've summoned lighting bolts from her satanic tome and Jockington could've turned into a hula hoop and rolled into enemies. It's not fair, bros.
>Kris is sitting on the couch
>Toriel, Asgore and Asriel are all around him
>Toriel: My child, this is... a hard thing to tell you, but we believe it's time you know the truth... you se... umm...
>Asgore: We really love you champ, we really care about you, but...
>Asriel: You will always be my brother no matter what, Kris, but... the thing is...
>Toriel: You are.... adopted
>Kris:...
>Kris: Are you all fucking stupid or something I'm 35 years old I KNOW I am not a goat monster
>Toriel: W-what!? who told you!?... ASGORE!
>Asgore: I didn't do anything!
>Kris: Oh, is not that you are all stupid, is that you think I AM the stupid one.
>Asriel: No buddy, they think you are autistic.
>Kris: Fuck my life
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What did I miss ingame to where everyone is calling this the Rude Buster symbol when it's just the symbol that appears when any character ACTs or uses MAGIC? When did people start calling three lines the Rude Buster symbol?
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I genuinely don't understand what the purpose of the
>Kris refuses to be fed actual food by the soul
shit is. I assume there must be a reason, but I really don't get it. We know dark world food isn't actually real so us eating TV dinners etc in that world makes sense.
But outside of very specific instances (Kris being forcefed church juice and being able to drink Alphys' juice), Kris never ever eats or drinks unless he doesn't have the soul, and when the soul is in, he only eats when "our" eyes are closed (black screen). We are never given the option to eat anything in the light world either
This happpens way too consistently to the point that there has to be reasoning for it.
Even Gerson seemed to be aware of those restrictions, and sees nothing wrong with Asriel holding an apple up to Kris' mouth like he's feeding a blind donkey.
I really just don't get it at all.
>>528004883>S-sure Kris! Anything for a friend faha...And then it cuts to her bent over against a tree while Kris mixes her guts around
>>528005226But Susie and Noelle are going to give birth to half siblings since they share a father.
>>528005412It's in Susie's room. The sprite itself is called "rude buster".
>>528005494is that supposed to be a bad thing anon?
>>528005480This reminds me of Ralsei...
>>528005446It's some weird neurotic thing like not wanting to play the piano with an audience
Anyone have Noelle x Ralsei pics
I'm not into the ship I'm just wondering if art of this even exists
I am sleep deprived and thinking of Friend, and I have come up with the idea that we will need to trap it inside something it cannot escape from to win. A miniature world where it cannot "break the shell" to get free, like a chick unable to escape its egg. It represents absolute freedom, a voyeur who can stalk its playthings and manipulate them for its pleasure, and I think stripping it of its freedom will play into the themes of the game where your characters are struggling against a predefined fate. I think Toby is going to go full Mother 3 and have us unable to beat this thing fairly and instead we'll need to "seal it" like we've sealed every threat so far.
Thank you for reading my schizo babble.
>>528005626Kris needs to see a professional.
>>528005549No, it's a funny thing.
>>528005578Ralsei is the gay version of Noelle except he thirsts for Kris massive Mandingo cock
>>528005446maybe she doesn't like being forced to eat
>>528005389Jockington could have summoned light bolts through sheer willpower and Catti could've turned into a boulder to crush the enemies. It's not fair, bros.
>>528005672He did but he got ripped apart across time and space and now only exists in backrooms style rooms to hand out Eggs
I wonder if Dealmaker could remain a good equip even at the very end of the game
>>528005389>>528005734They should have been a combo character with Catti using Jockington as a whip.
>>528005652Whatever it is, it's very interested in Noelle. It keeps giving you hints on how to fuck with her so whatever the rapegeave or snowrape or doerape or weirdrape or whatever you wanna call it is, he's very much involved.
This will probably invite a lot of shipsperging, but I find it interesting that Noelle and Kris genuinely seemed to have a budding romance when they were younger - one that was presumably cut short by The Incident, and Kris not coming over.
That whole closet scene was just her in denial, being pushed to confront her past feelings, then shooting them down because she doesn't want Susie to 'get the wrong idea'.
It's obvious that she likes scary stuff because it's how Kris interacted with her - possibly his love language. A figure that scared her, but was a rulebreaker, doing what they wanted regardless of the consequences - that's what she liked about Kris (and probably Dess), and now sees in Susie. Interesting now how Susie is Free, and Kris is most definitely Not.
Also sad how crushed Kris was by her denial, to the point he let us slip past and strum the guitar. Angsty teens, indeed. A lot of interesting depth.
Don't know about you anons, but one of the most disappointing part of chapter 3+4 was Black shard and Justice Axe not getting some form of unique sprite in battle.
They'd just have to invert the colors of Kris' sword and paint Susie's axe that light gunmetal color even if it's not a full design change.
It's difficult to view them as these super important weapons when nothing has changed visually.
>>528005857It seems like Kris had a crush on Dess, not Noelle. Dess loved Asriel, but still hang out with Kris a lot as a big sister.
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chapter 7
>>528005953Toby shot himself in the foot by making Ralsei's scarf his weapon.
>Deltarune is reverse Undertale
New Home - Chapter 1
Core - Chapter 2
Hotland - Chapter 3
Waterfall - Chapter 4
Snowdin - Chapter 5
Ruins - Chapter 6
>>528005953Making them would delay the game for 3 more months. Please understand.
>>528005953That would be a slippery slop towards all weapons getting unique sprites, and that would be too much effort.
>>528005958What makes you think that? Especially considering Kris' reaction to Noelle's words, and how all the flashbacks we know of seem to indicate Kris loved fucking with Noelle specifically (again, possibly his love language.)
Walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells,
grapes, melons, oranges, and coconut shells
>>528006025And then Chapter 7 is True Lab so this theory falls apart.
>>528005857I think the Kris and Noelle relationship is tied to Carol's obsession with Heart Shaped Objects and why Noelle clocks them being made to hang out as being "Forced"
Love finds its way to the Girl and all that
>>528005652>picFRIEND looks like they're about to say a slur.
>>528005953>when nothing has changed visually.Maybe actually open your eyes? The actual attack animation for BlackShard is omnious red, as opposed to normal attack animation.
>>528006079chapter 0 is true lab
>>528006079True Lab is a sub-section of Hotland
The real game
>>528006067I dunno if 6 year olds HAVE a love language
>>528006072What is the importance of Pineapples just being a scent? Clearly someone has bought the pineapples and the scent is all that remains, but who?
Ralsei's ultimate weapon will be gay scarf
>>528006067>Kris loved fucking with NoelleSo they can get "punished" by Dess again haha
>>528006115they look like they already did and ramb died on the spot
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>>528006181Chunky is dead.
>>528004917Little did she know that the Knight was already her rape baby grandchild that Dess had with Kris.
>>528006067Chapter 3 is all about how Kris and "that girl" were together all the time. "That girl" is revealed to be Dess. Queen is Dess' laptop, King is Kris' playing card, and together they played make-believe.
>>528006246The next secret boss is Gray Fox!?
>>528006206Someone post that flcl edit with Dess and Kris
>>528006281hoooooooooooooooooly fuck
>>528005857I can't view it as romance because they were younger kids at that time. Noelle always viewed Kris as being a weirdo and asshole, but it was balanced by him being relatively endearing with jokes and having talent with the piano so she realises that she does miss having him as a friend.
I think ultimately Kris is hurt by Noelle's words not because they were potentially romantic, but because he's hurt that Noelle has started viewing Kris as someone she was forced to hang out with and that she never cared.
Though it's important to note that in the route where you have this conversation, Noelle doesn't really think any of the dream was real and as such doesn't contemplate her relationship with Kris in the same way that she does in Snowgrave, where she very clearly brings over her new assertive nature instantly, even if she copes until chapter 4 on it being "real".
It's not super complicated. Noelle likes Susie because Susie is a perfect stand in for what Dess used to represent. And without her dad and dess around, the household is oppressive and controlling, so she tries to get what she's missing from the rebellious kid in school. It's built on trauma and longing.
>>528006089Interesting point, especially considering the change to the final scene in the Weird Route. I'm certain Carol knows about Your shenanigans, and approves of them. After all, YOU are welcome anytime.
>>528006170I guess it could be more like how young guys play pranks on girls they're interested in, something that is a common phenomenon (even from my personal experience)
Any of art of Carol shoving the SOUL up her cooch
>Noelle likes Susie for a perfect stand in for Dess
same applies to kris
>>528006214Troll King vs Mario.
>>528006324I think it was a budding romance - in its infancy. We don't really know the exact timeline and ages here, after all. Kris was with her practically all her life - until he wasn't. It's not far-fetched to think that some feelings developed, and given their reactions/words, I think they did.
I agree that Susie is a stand in - but definitely for Kris as much as Dess, if not more than. Again, several past mentions of Kris' antics in this regard.
>>528005415No, Authority. I am not sticking my thumb up my ass.
Toby is a giant hack if he eventually makes FRIEND/ Gaster appear in major roles and the only buildup they have are some autistic esoteric ARG bullshit that only a few autists will dig into instead of properly being built through the main narrative.
>>528004845i kinda had the same reaction i really want the old song back
even if the new one is also really cool
surely we will get to choose the castle bgm eventually
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>>528006560https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfb_n7wjb5k
remember that nobody in this thread has enough determination to create a dark fountain
>>528006181they had to make something rhyme with coconut shells
Anyone got the image of Kris and the Knight doing the same poses?
only thing i want is Noelle as party member again in chapter 5.
disappointing to have that whole thing built only to have it for a part of chapter 2 and thats it.
>>528006549That's why gaster isn't going to appear in deltarune. He'll only be referenced. Toby knows the moment he shows him, the mystery is gone. He is a key to be jingled infront of us for all eternity.
>>528006673You're going to be excited.
>>528006452Until I see a flashback of Kris and Dess having the same kind of gremlinous interactions as Kris and Susie do, I will reject this statement in its entirety.
So far everything we've seen points more towards Kris trying to be like Dess.
>>528005446Watsonian explanation: Kris hates (You) so much that even just knowing you can see them do something they enjoy, like eating or playing the piano, ruins it by association.
Doylist explanation: Toby doesn't feel like making sprites of Kris eating.
I'm surprised that the weird route is accepted by the fandom so well. Both 4chan part, and reddit part. I was afraid it would turn into ctrl+alt+del's miscarriage comic fiasco.
>>528006673She is guaranteed to come back. I wish
>>528004405 was real, too.
Toby will make us dig up spots in random coordinates to find the flash drive containing the copy of Deltarune that has Gaster in it
He buried it in Holland back in 2016
>>528006775if it's done well, it's done well
>>528006549>Toby can't pay off the voice at the start of the game who is waiting for his DELTA RUNE because he just can't okay>Toby can't pay off the strange cat face in the basement because he just can't okay
>>528006707Gaster is all about being "gone", tho
So uh
How the fuck are we getting the chapter 4 recruits back to Castle Town? The church looks like it just got trashed, Kris and Susie can't just show up and rob the place in the morning.
>>528006775It's like five schizos who are obsessed with rape.
>>528006775Do you not know how many rape fetishists are on this site?
Also people hated CAD before the miscarriage thing so it's not really the same. If YIIK did this it'd be mocked mercilessly.
>>528006889You said it yourself. Place looks like it got trashed. Susie and Kris go help out and say they'll take out the garbage and then take the garbage to castle town.
>>528006889>pic>UT/DR fans are gooning to water now
>>528006889Alvin will see the note, know what's going on and lets Kris and Susie do it
>>528007018people have been gooning to water spirits for millenia, this is tame if anything
>>528006775The fanbase worships Toby.
One part thinks Toby would never be problematic, the other Toby is secretly antiwoke chud.
Toby is their buddy.
>>528005857>It's obvious that she likes scary stuff because it's how Kris interacted with herI think that's more about Dess. Noelle mentions that she used to watch scary movies with someone, but the flavor text in Dess's bedroom mentions that Kris wasn't allowed to watch anything in Dess's horror collection, so presumably Noelle means Dess and not Kris.
>>528004405I'm glad the game didn't go down this route.
>Susie: "I FOUND YOU... FAKER!"
>Dess: "Faker? I think you're the fake around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even go-
>Susie: "I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!"
>>528006721>Doylist explanation: Toby doesn't feel like making sprites of Kris eating.They made a (pretty detailed) sequence of Kris making and drinking chocolate milk.
>>528006560It's a shapeshifter, I'm gonna fuck it regardless.
>>528006930YIIK used a real life murder case for the main character to obsess over (and develop a weird attraction to the victim he was unable to save), its very weird.
what if gaster does make an appearance, but only in an outright unused room
that way players that don't dig into esoteric datamined shit and don't know who gaster is won't see it anyway
>>528007018Bro this website wants to fuck Vaporeon where have you been
>>528007085>people think Toby is an antiwoke churchYou'd have to be pretty lost in the copium to think that.
In a suprise to everyone, Susie and Dess will start dating at the end instead.
>>528006889When the water cooler goes "this isn't even my final form", and pulls multi-stage boss thing.
>>528007087Gonna be real, this is starting to feel like you have a very specific personal theory in your head that you are not budging on. Yes, Dess had an influence on her and Kris, but you are just blatantly downplaying Kris' role in her life at this point. Consider the dearth of stuff we have on her and Kris' childhood experiences vs the tidbits of Dess lore.
Inb4
>You're just mad because you ship itI'm Krusie 'till I die
>>528007119Theyโre fighting over who gets Krisโs dick
Gaster is going to show up and interact with the main characters but he's going to be a formless disembodied voice and the whole thing will be really scary and upsetting
>>528006990>Be priest guy>Had to cancel choir yesterday due to rain.>After that mockery of a sermon by that fat cat bitch>It was almost not worth plugging her slut hole to let her up on stage>Whatever, Angel gives his hardest challenges to his horniest disciples. Gunna have to give that ass another go as punishment.>Get into your holy house, your spiritual recluse, your place of calm>It's fucking demolished. Multiple locks broken, shit thrown all over the floor, pews straight up smashed to splinters >Did a fucking bully break in??>Nothing seems missing. Go to your office>Your heart nearly drops into your ass when you see your father's beloved hammer sitting out on the table, some of his dust leaking out of the loose lid like someone opened it up to swing it around >Choke back tears at this violation >See a note scribbled in Crayola >"Ya daddy luv u and he proud of your shitty sermon" - a fren>Nearly have an aneurysm from all this What the fuck did he do to deserve this?
>>528005446But you can drink hot chocolate in the light world
>>528006889>The Flower King in Asylum.>Asgore mentioned to pray later in the day, meaning he will be a suspect in trashing the church.Either Asgore got shelter'd by the Knight in the rematch or he's going to take the rap for trashing the church after next chapter. Mark my words.
>>528006775Im a sucker for toxic codependant relationships
>>528007119>Susie firing a rude buster at The Knight in a later chapter>Knight casually deflects it back>If you beat Gerson, Susie will automatically deflect it back to The Knight's surprise and force them to block the attack>Is sent skidding backward from the impact>If you didn't beat Gerson instead Susie will block the deflected rude buster instead of sending it backWould it be kino?
>>528007417That one is handed to you automatically, and Kris "throat tightens" after you drink it. Which indicates sadness, resentment or anger.
> leftards scream everywhere about Kris being non-binary and they/them shit
> Meanwhile, I see gorillions of posts that refer to Kris as she/her, and call kriselle and krusie yuri (implying those are lesbian ships)
> No backlash whatsoever.
> But the moment anyone dares to refer to Kris as he/him there will be millions of spergs throwing fits about they/them pronoun
...Those people just hate men and straight relationships, don't they?
>>528007314I am half convinced Toby will reuse the fight as "Water Coolest" in the ice palace area , maybe just to give us another cute snoot creature.
Will Undyne the jobber get redeemed?
>>528007085>One part thinks Toby would never be problematicWeird route would get more flak if it was written as anything less than 100% horrifying. But it is written that way so.
> the other Toby is secretly antiwoke chud.lmao
>>528007539Maintain the agenda.
Undyne will come back and kick ass.
>>528007521>muh gender debateKris is they/them, because DESS MOLESTED THEM.
>>528007510I think that was just in reference to the fact that he used to drink it with Asriel and he's bummed his brother isn't there
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>>528007075>>528007291What is it about water-based entities that turns people into full-on drooling apes?
>>528007521Said it before, I'll say it again - most people are mad about Krusie/Kriselle because they instinctively see it as a straight ship 'erasing' a gay one
>>528007521>and call kriselle and krusie yuri (implying those are lesbian ships)I have seen this
>gorillions of posts that refer to Kris as she/herand yet I have not seen this
>>528007521Go back to /v/
>>528007614lmao holy shit
>>528007521Yeah, that's why a lot of them hate krusie/kriselle, they just subconsciously register Kris as male and can't help themselves but immediately hate these because heckin hetero.
Gaster is going to be Susie's abusive alcoholic human-racist father. He's just going to show up in the plot just to throw a wrench in everyone's theories
>>528007521yes? hypocrisy runs in their veins
>>528007360>this is starting to feel like you have a very specific personal theory in your head that you are not budging onBitch, that's literally my first post about this subject. Get a grip. Not even going to read the rest of your post.
>Tasque Manager
>Elnina
>Miss Mizzle
Why do they all have snoots?
>>528007613As someone with no stake in the game at all, it does seem kind of shitty for people to take what is clearly supposed to be the 'canon' romance and toss it aside while propping up the weird stalker abusive one as 'better' just because it's straighter. Plus this is 4chan, I don't trust people to be genuine in their reasons for liking it beyond self-insert stuff and weird homophobia.
If you chuck a Light World ice statue into Castle Town, would it still melt? If not, this is kinda a hole in Ralsei's "illusion" rhetoric.
>>528007508*cough*
wrap it up
*cough*
>>528007743Toby's other other fetish.
>>528007743Water droplet head shape if you turn it sideways
reminder that dess is human, has a ton of human shoes in her closet. and also next to her wiffle bat
>>528007640And why's that? Because I made a point that your queer-rotting brain can't answer?
>>528007125Yeah but the choccy milk was funny so it gets a pass. That's also why the fruit juice got through, and why Susie is allowed to eat on screen.
>>528007820Okay well retarded posts like this isn't helping you beat the allegations, tardo.
>>528007521>> leftards scream everywhere about Kris being non-binary and they/them shitThe game consistently refers to Kris with neutral pronouns.
>>528007771>Kris holding his break cause he's trying not to laugh at how hard the knight is fumbling this easy ass sweep
>>528007745>Weird stalker abusive oneI'm just talking about regular Krusie/Kriselle, not weird route shenanigans. Frankly, I think they're more interesting and better written, while Suselle is cookie-cutter boring crap.
>>528007665I think people are weirded out by Kriselle because the Weird route portrays it as horrifying and a good chunk of its shippers are into the rape aspect. On normal route its not as big of a deal but the DOE RAPE DOE RAPE people kinda ruined it for everyone.
>>528006775Do you not understand why that comic was so thouroughly memed on? It wasn't the content of the comic, it was what it revealed about the character of it's author. He took what was undeniably a deep personal tragedy and injected it into what was otherwise an unserious comic series.
>>528007909>Frankly, I think they're more interesting and better writtenBut the only writing for it is in the weird rapey abusive route? And Noelle never implies they're anything more than friends outside of the weird rapey route?
I don't agree.
>>528007413He's the one who dug up the hammer in the first place
>>528007820The hit dog is hollerin'
Go back
Catti should become playable.
>>528004308 (OP)I can't resist making Ramb into some kind of dogboy even though I don't like it because it's very off model and there is no real indication of him being a dog plug abomination (unless you count his weird hair) but... at the same time... dogboy ramb....
https://files.catbox.moe/tjy9oa.png
>>528007915>I let humans ruin things for me because they enjoy them incorrectlyYou are over socialized. I recommend getting off the Internet and realizing that nobodies opinion matters save your own and the few people who have a direct impact in your life, like your immediate family and boss
>>528007871Why are you here anyway? Why can't you go back to tumblr or xitter and talk about your mental illness over there? Nobody here outside of other molested fags like you supports your bullshit.
I despise how open Kris is as a traitor yet Ralsei and Susie are completely blind to it.
I feel compelled to do snowgrave out of spite seeing as thats the only route where I can visual feedback that we're hurting him.
If Toby doesn't make Noelle evil for doing snowgrave it's hack writing. Noelle thanked us for helping her kill berdly after we pricked her finger with a thorn. That's not normal she is fucked up.
>>528008075Is this babies first "liar revealed" plot?
>>528007886But they conflate that with non binary shit when itโs never been confirmed thatโs the case. They just use it to bully other people who suggest otherwise.
>>528007771The knight was literally just playing with you. Right after the fight, Susie and Ralsie get hit with a one-shit that's so powerful it has a 3 second hit-stop.
>>528008052Who are you quoting? I'm talking about their perception of Kriselle shippers at large. People view you guys as rape fetishists because so many of you can't shut up about how much you love rape.
>>528008046With all the weird Kris dog stuff in the game I wouldn't be surprised if their childhood toy friend is supposed to give off dog vibes
>>528007521Genuine question, where do you find these people? How are you plugged in enough to see all these dynamics. Are you searching xitter by most recent or something, are you scrolling through replies? I ask because I'm plugged in but
> Meanwhile, I see gorillions of posts that refer to Kris as she/herI haven't seen this at all.
>>528008036Noelle and Susie getting jealous of each other's minor and platonic interactions with Kris only to find out he's been slamming the absolute piss out of catti for months would be kino
>>528008036SEX NOW!!
SEX WITH THIS CAT!!
I hate Krusie/Kriselle because Kris and Susie are platonic friends, and Susie and Noelle have a full on romantic subplot going on. Shipping is also stupid in general, and the people who do are invariably obnoxious freaks.
>>528007886Almost as if...
Kris is BOTH as separate entity from us AND a blankstate MC for the player to self-insert.
>>528008075ralsei is a co-conspirator
things are being set up to go very badly for big purple
>>528008068This is a general for a Toby Fox game dude, where do you think you are
>>528007989The chemistry between Kris and Susie is the most entertaining in the game, and we can see it develop naturally. Kris and Noelle have a complex past, with a lot of interesting flashbacks and mysteries.
Noelle saw Sussy baka beating up Kris and went "Angel I wish that was me", then proceeded to have the most cliche, tropey start to an awkward highschool romance between the shy nerd and the dense jock ever.
>>528007808Flavor text says her shoes are for hooved feet
>>528008068This place isn't your safe space, retard. Why the FUCK you would whine about this shit in the undertale / Deltarune general as well? Zero actual common sense, I swear.
>tumblrThe saddest part is that you're probably 25+ and still doing this referencing that like it's been relevant for half a decade
>>528008107>itโs never been confirmed thatโs the case... Literally every character refers to Kris with neutral pronouns.
Why does this fucking thing always look on the verge of crying and laughing?
>>528008110That was Kris backstabbing.
>>528008229I can agree with Kris / Susie but I find Kris / Noelle pretty bland and boring.
>>528004308 (OP)https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1935631048848871659
Time to make Tenna do MMD dances. Any requests?
>>528008107Toby confirmed it on stream, but I'll keep calling him a boy, because that's what Toby obviously wrote him as, before slapping an 'enby' sticker on top and telling everyone to shut up and play along.
Ok so the evil cat is at the center of the Freedom theming because Schrodinger's Cat and random chance and whatever I get it
So what's the deal with all the games and carnival rides
>>528008315do catti and jockington next, bro
>>528008107What other reason could there be? Remember that Kris is NOT meant to be a self insert.
>>528008250the flavor text about hoof shoes is for the bin of random crap with asriel's retainer in it.
noelle, carol, and rudy all do not wear human style shoes.
>>528008317Iโm saying the non binary shit hasnโt been confirmed. Learn how to read.
>>528008390The only MMD dance I know is Sans and Komaeda's cover of Fingers In His Ass but I dunno if that counts
Another day another dollar.
N-No you guys dont get it Twitter forced based Toby to give deltarune a woke nonbinary protagonist, he wouldn't have done that in any of his previous games.
>>528008250Wrong. That was for her stash of stolen items in the corner of the room that totally isn't a stash of RPG inventory items
I want Ralsei's BUTT and nothing but his BUTT on my face
>>528008286>>528008228> STOP OPPOSING USEh, no? Kris is androgynous fot YOU to decide what his, or her sex is.
You fags again, go back to whatever shithole you came from, or whatever little safe space in where you can ban anyone for slightly disagreeing on a narrative you're pushing.
>>528008447He is literally a self insert, by virtue that we are inside of him and controlling his actions.
>>528008207Insert mental gymnastics meme here.
>>528008467>"It only counts if a character turns to the camera and directly states 'Kris is nonbinary.'."...
>>528005271Why not? They are two unique characters who got their own face portraits and Catti has some history with Kris. Her and Jockington will show up in a dark world soon.
>>528008403Just like Susie, who is really male
>>528008564>he's still here seethingBro you lost the culture war ages ago, Toby is a woketard.
>>528008384I guess I like the chemistry between Kris and Noelle combined with the angst and mystery of their past much more engaging than whatever her and Susie have going on. For example, the whole spelling out December scene vs the Ferris Wheel scene - the former wasn't just interesting character-wise, but lore-wise, whereas the latter I skipped not even to fuck with Ralsei's plans, but because I had the option.
I guess it's really just personal taste at the end of the day, but I still think Suselle is very basic and lacking depth.
>>528008551Order Mr. Anon! ORDER!!!!
>>528008551>nothing but his BUTT>doesn't want a faceful of gote cock+balls
Ralsei will become big and beat the shit out of a titan
>>528008467So why does the town, most of who would have known Kris for years and would be aware of their gender, keep using neutral pronouns? Do you think Kris asked the town to use them/they, but don't consider themselves nonbinary for some reason?
>>528008524Yeah. He straight up admitted he thinks Frisk is a boy despite the they/them shit.
>>528008403He didn't confirmed it, he simply reacted to the situation while keeping Kris androgynous, thus why he said-
> "They're stuck" instead of just "they're"
You are sleeping on Ralsus, you will surprised. The themes of story are building toward that.
>>528008594Wrong, she's a tomboy who occasionally shows her girly side (like the 'smell my hair' scene after minikris takes a stab at her) which is just the best. Reminds me of Kaichou wa Meido-sama.
>>528008681At first I misread "titan" as "italian" and was confused at why Ralsei would do that
>>528008570We are not directly controlling Kris like a normal RPG protagonist, we are controlling the soul and the soul is controlling Kris. Kris and the soul (representation of the player) are separate characters with different goals and motivations. The game practically beats you over the head with this point.
>>528008692>a Twitter post from 10 years ago where he's responding to CPI dunno man I think you're just reaching.
>>528008551Honestly, kinda surprised there hasn't been any clussy yet. Maybe Jevil.
>>528008682Because Toby wrote it that way for self insertion, just like Frisk.
>>528008564Bro you're literally whining that people need to leave so you can maintain your safe space. You retards are so clueless
>>528008681>>528008740>Mama-miba, please dont hurt me giant terrifying goat boy!
>>528008180The platonic friendship is more engaging and romantic then the forced yurishit going on with Noelle and Susie.
>>528008341Itโs his sex look he gives you before sex because heโs horny (he wants to sex you)
>>528008551This but his squishy, ticklish tummy
>>528008564you're very obviously a tourist here. Go back to /v/ and talk about Deltarune (oh wait the mods keep deleting your threads lol)
>>528008780i mean the mizzles wear jester hat-like things
>>528008315Why is Noelle in a dress but Kris is still in diapers
UT/DR humans are hermaphrodites.
Pleasantly surprised that chapter 4 wasn't about le religion bad. Not religious myself I just think the trope is overdone.
>>528008589>>528008630>>528008682Kris is a re-take on Varik, is bluntly Toby's self insert, and is purposefully kept androgynous so that they player can decide if he's male, female or how YOU faggots push it, non-binary.
BUT you again, being mentally ill faggots, can't settle for that and actively push the non-binary narrative and ONLY.
Your cover's blown, really just go back to tumblr.
>>528008959Instead its about Prophecy bad, the Prophecy being the basis of their religion.
>>528008849>this is what happens when you stop giving spin cakes every chapter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--uqdSF5vTQ
Dreamt about him twice. I've really missed that.
>>528008516how old is this image?
>>528008968What ethnicity are you, I'm getting suspicious
>>528008968Bro you're the one who can't handle the thread, your blood pressure is skyrocketing. Maybe you should head back to where you're more familiar.
>>528008761Youโre just coping at this point. Itโs clear that Toby views and wrote Frisk, Chara, and Kris as boys, but uses the they/them pronouns to pander to the mob because his fandom is the worst.
>>528008753I still think the meta conflict is not actually Player VS Kris, it's Toby VS Player. The fact that the story is gonna go how Toby wants it to no matter what. Kris seems to want to fight back against Toby even when his soul is out.
>>528008857>the platonic friendship>more romanticSometimes I think I'm just being overdramatic about my dislike of shippers. Then they say some shit like this.
>"forced" yuriWhat does that even mean? Is someone physically coercing Toby to put lesbians in his games? The Woke Fairy is holding a gun to bro's head, apparently.
>>528008968Nta but Kris as a character, as its own separate entity removed from ourselves, is non-binary by design. Like on metaphysical level. I don't know why you're getting so caught up in this idea that Kris (the character) is non-binary by virtue of not having an established gender. They're like a Digimon.
Susie isn't particulary romantic toward Noelle. Her interaction are similiar with Kris and Ralsei. It's Noelle who is a weirdo.
>>528009107>TOBY IS SECRETLY BASED HE SECRETLY AGREES WITH ME AND HATES THE WOKES, ANY DAY NOW HE'S GOING TO ADMIT ITThis is so embarrassing dude
>>528009086>>528009106> No actual meaningful rebuttal Over.
Also I'm pretty sure I'm whiter than you, not that you will believe me or whatever.
(insert argument bait post here)
>>528008958I think of the Undertale hoomans as shotas because that's hotter
I don't even disagree that it's fine to view Frisk and Kris as boys (I do as well) but bro you can't be having a melty like this and screaming about muh leftists SJWs like it's not 2025 and you're not coming off completely psychotic.
>>528009036cute af
what were the dreams about
>>528007808>Noelle was scared of humans under the bed>no gingerbread human cookie cutters at the Holiday's house>the care for humans book only made note of Toriel checking it outI'm skeptical.
>>528009250I'm not rebutting you personally, I'm genuinely curious at this point
98% White, for my part
>>528008692Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, huh?
>>528009250I'm a german/irish minnesotan so I doubt that. Weird cope though.
The damn gay woke mob made Ralsei porn I can't stop jacking off too
>>528009202Tbh I think Susie has a crush on Noelle and Ralsei since they're the ones she blushes around the most, and they're the ones she wants to take to the festival the most. Susie just has a thing for feminine ruminants.
>>528009137Platonic love is a kind of love and is strong than the shallow entry level eros that's between Susie and Noelle. The best relationships are ones that are indistinguishable from strong friendships in the devotion of self. Susie and Kris may not have a ton of romantic chemistry, but they have a lot of love between them, and that's more than Susie and Noelle by like a wide margin and more engaging than "this two characters are lesbian and one of them wants to FUCK the other because.... Uhhjhhhnnnhh she's hot?" And then try to salvage it by giving them very shallow common interests like "we both played this one game isn't that neat?"
I feel... panicked in regards to deltarune?
I dont know why.
Maybe its the waiting again?
Being out of the loop regarding the prophecy?
Fearing the ending is the same despite my route?
Maybe its the fear that outside the fandom, I dont have any hobbies, skills, talents etc.
Im probably just in a depressive slump.
>>528008450Who do the hoof shoes belong to if not Dess?
>>528008968If Kris and the player being distinct entities is one of the key plot points of Deltarune, why would Toby leave it up to us to decide their gender?
>>528009250Really speedrunning the stereotype, huh?
>>528009324>>528009341I'm the same nationality as the sportacus guy.
>>528009398Trvke
Still ship Krusie tho
>>528009398Are you sure that you didn't only get that out of their interactions because you're forcing yourself to see them that way
>thread is degrading into /v/ culture war shit
>just as the Deltarune /v/ threads are autosaging
I'm noticing...
>>528009496Oh that picture is fucking class my nigga
>>528009515Why's she have a bubbleblower
>>528009479>nationalityNot what I asked, anon
>>528009442Because he's both a separate person from us and a blankstate MC like Varik in Hallow Hack, that's why Kris's personality is often shown via flavor text or optional content like when he and Susie almost kissed.
>>528009442Escapism is bad, Kris is not real, duh.
The hype will be lower come 2026, especially if Toby does not release the full game by January 1st. He took too long. First chapter shitposters were better back then.
>>528008516It's the least interesting argument in the whole fucking world, why must these retards relitigate this shit every few hours?
>>528009636What else would they talk about? /v/irgins dont play video games.
>>528009548don't worry, susie's retarded and will forget to look for you in the church anyways
>>528009636They're saving the white race or whatever.
>>528009603Icelandic my guy
>>528009636Everyone loves their headcanons, some a little too much
That goes for both sides btw
>>528007508I get that it's a meme to call the Knight a FRAUD getting owned by a pro no-hit player. But it's funny when most players haven't even beaten her with the mantle. They're calling the current hardest boss in the game a fraud.
>>528009708This is perverted and gross
more pls
>>528009403I believe in you.
>>528009479You seem really insecure about it so post a timestamp of your hand or I'm just going to assume you're Indian.
>>528009548I think Susie might be far more fucked than she could ever believe. She truly believes that the hell in front of her is surmountable with the power of her friends. It's gonna become very obvious that she can't even see the mountain
>>528009717The best ones are the ones where Gerson styles on them.
Kris gets free hot chocolate at the diner and still acts like the biggest victim in the universe
Therefore she must be a teenaged girl
>>528009548>The Knight falls for 1/10 rage bait
>>528009636They like the game but don't want to be seen playing a "woke" game so tie themselves in knots arguing that's it's not "woke".
>>528009709Do you know the percentage, you Yakubian ice-dweller?
>>528009759I'm calling Slavic admixture
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>>528009717What is with this overlap with One Piece powerlevel posting
>>528009398>literally cannot tell the difference between friendship and romance...
>>528009717It's really funny since Gerson is a super easy boss and everyone seems to agree he's much stronger than her.
>>528009762It is surmountable with the power of her friends, it's just that she doesn't really have any friends because Kris is using her for the Knight's plan and Ralsei is complicit
>>528009784Nah, only an incel would act like that.
Sooooo which is the real Mike? Battat (Pippin), Jongler (Cowboy), or Pluey (Meow)?
>>528009841Limbus company.
Dont even ask me how i just know
>>528009841Tiktok/Twitter fandom overlap
>>528009621Kris is real and I'm going to have sex with them whether they like it or not
>>528009715>Everyone loves their headcanonsEh, speak for yourself mate. I don't have headcanons. I've seen what assuming shit does to people. The game is the game is the game. Simple as.
>>528009857To be fair, it's painfully obvious that Gerson is totally holding back and could be way more OP if he wanted. I think that's a side effect of it.
He's literally dodging the entire time during his fight and his attacks do % based damage so it's clear he's not REALLY trying to hurt Susie badly. Plus we don't, you know, actually die during his fight
>>528009314>this never made sense, she knew Kris>like Kris Dess isn't comfortable with humans and doesn't like to be reminded, Carol is a better parent than Toriel and actually noticed this>Carol is rich enough to just buy a copy>>528009425stolen from Noelle/Carol/Rudy who presumably do wear hoof shoes
>>528009892Noelle will save her
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>>528008642this butt unironically
>>528009717Jevil was harder.
>>528009857Gerson clearly isn't actually trying to hurt Susie. Also his win condition is hitting him ONCE. Dess was taking damage like nobody's business and couldn't dodge for shit.
>>528009806>>528009759There's no point arguing with mixed mutts, not even in jokingly matter.
I'll just keep on calling Kris a man.
>>528006289It's both Dess and Noelle at different times. I don't think Dess was playing pretend with Kris.
>You couldn't find
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>your hand
>>528008642I order this anon's order of butt.
>>528010002
>>528010015>too brown to follow throughlol
You'll keep on getting triggered, you mean. Typical /v/irgin.
>>528009717The Roaring Fraud memes helped motivate me to beat her even though I suck at the game
Fuck Kris, fuck Noelle, fuck the Knight, fuck the prophecy.
If SOUL teams up with SUSIE we'd no diff.
>>528009717She didnโt live up to her potential.
>touching snoots
FUCKING LEWD
All the gender discussion posts are mine btw. I love to samefag and bait myself.
>>528010015If Toby wanted Kris's gender to be open to interpretation why did he correct someone on stream who interpreted Kris as male?
>>528010025>implying Dess didn't introduce Kris to dark worlds
>>528010253T-Twitter made him do that...
>>528009981>>528009857The cut content proves that Gerson was supposed to be a more standard fight and a clear elevation over the Roaring Knight with stupidly difficult attacks, but Toby mustve thought the solo duel was more thematically appropriate.
Cut content is Diegetic/canon in deltarune and the game being rushed and sliced open is a major contributor to the plans of every character being fucked over
>>528010239Because he knows damn well how his mob works. If he says anything now, itโll be seen as erasure.
>>528009913bait used to be believ HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE R-
>>528009756I wish he was real
>>528010139>no diffThe older I get, the more I reject the language of the youths.
>>528010239Based Berdlychad
>>528010025Dess and Queen are connected by their baseball motifs
Plus if Kris and Dess were the ones playing make believe, you can then make the connection to the Dark Worlds and how Kris might have caused Dess to be lost
>>528010015>Has the audacity to call me a mixed mutt in his mangled approximation of my languageI KNOW there is Balkan blood in you, dog
>>528010304>The cut content proves that Gerson was supposed to be a more standard fight and a clear elevation over the Roaring Knight with stupidly difficult attacksGot a link to it? I don't doubt you, I'm curious. Are there dialogue differences? or is it just attack patterns? Cause there's also evidence that the Roaring Knight was supposed to be a lot weaker at some point since he has WAY easier unused attacks and it sort of makes sense if Toby decided to buff him while making Gerson more of a story thing.
>>528008036Chapter 5 will have
>Noelle in Ch 2 was playing Dragon Blazers and got to Level 5>Mentioned she left the mage behind>In chapter 5 we can get different party members depending on various factors>Noelle, Susie, Ralsei, Berdley and Catti are possibleI don't actually believe this but it would be cool
>>528010304The game is better for that Gerson shit being cut down and turned into a Susie growth moment. Not everything that is cut is good.
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>>528010385Someone needs to go out there and make goats real
how do I cope with having to wait for more weirdkino?
>>528009849What's the difference besides sexual attraction?
>>528010440https://youtu.be/KKTScoQqQPM
Not all of them are finished, but enough are finished to where the final fight was probably a very late decision
>>528010439You sure seem pretty frustrated brown mutt, hormones spiking much?
>>528009756>"A bloo hoo, I keep lying because I'm insecure!"Ralsei, I love you, lil' bro... Stop withholding information. I will get you some furniture, just tell me what the FUCK is actually going on.
>>528010458>Toby would really fucking make me replay the game FIVE times to see all the party member contentGoddamn it.
>>528009997>>this never made sense, she knew KrisThat's why she was scared of them. Kris hid under her bed to spook her.
>>528010471>seeking out stuff to be mad atYep its /v/
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>>528010304>Harder than roaring knightI hate that we're playing patty cake with monsters and then suddenly a big touhou boss fight happens sometimes. We're not climbing to get any better. We're just playing the game and then having to stop on one fight for 3 hours unless cheat engine. It's mostly pattern memorizing because some attacks are literally faster than your heart so you either get out of one section of the area, or you're already dead. Toby should have made the mouse control the heart if he was going to go touhou. There's a reason why it's like that.
>>528010471Why is justifying mental illness and attention whoring important?
>>528009892It's surmountable with the power of us and our fucking crazy ass bullet dodging skills.
>>528010573Post your ethnic makeup you swarthy ape
>>528009841Gerson perfectly plays the "secretly overpowered wise mentor hiding his power levels" trope most commonly found in battle shounen so naturally a lot of battle shounen memes are being made.
>>528010617Speak for yourself, I beat the Knight in under 20 minutes. It's a super boss, it should be hard.
>>528010617Touhou doesn't use mouse control
>>528010614No you're fucked up and evil, I want Susie as a friend because she's a nice girl.
>Asriel and Noelle
>cute and lovable
>Kris and Dess
>red-eyed demons
>Deletes chapter 3 the third lol
>>528010614With friends like Noelle, who needs enemies?
>>528010816Jevil!!!! You can't do that!!!!!
>>528010617I agree with mouse control
controller has more fine control but keyboard is fucky
>>528009717Fucking Asgore beat her ass. Sheโs a fraud.
>>528010775WHY WOULD DESS HAVE RED EYES IF NONE OF HER PARENTS HAVE THEM
>>528010614Yes Noelle I would love to watch the entire Board James series with you on your phone and maybe some AVGN episodes as well
Kris is going to FUCK Susie with his BHC while Noelle waits for her turn
>>528010614Noelle unironically seems like a fun person to hang out with. She's a sweetheart who's into some freak shit. Remember, she's canonically an Invader Zim fan who had a goth phase.
>>528010869This is such a strange speed reader claim. Do you guys think he broke a piece of her blade off or what?
>>528010561Jesus Christ, Gerson. Okay yeah, he was clearly holding back during his fight against Susie. I think this even puts Undying to shame
Not enough TV ITT!
Anon do you love TV?
Say it!
>>528010878Susie gets red eyes when she activates a Dark World and ERAM says that Kris's eyes are flickering red after you beat it
Red eyes in Deltarune are something you can get and tied to being lost in play and fantasy which might be exactly what happened to Dess
YOU, yes you fall in to the underground in the place of frick. Genuinely how far do you think you can get?
>>528010614Sure, let's watch horror movies together.
>>5280109194chan can claim otherwise now but they bullied the fuck out of those cute emo and scene girls back then. They dont deserve her.
>>528010937I mean, he IS her mentor. God I wish we could've gotten some of those interactions.
>>528011064>how far do you think you can get?With Toriel? All the way.
>>528011119Yep, you get to save, reset, load all of it but you're going to experience things as reality so magic really fucking hurts to get hit by for one.
Why no one talks about the darkness beyond the edge of the dark world that was shown in ch3? Susie couldn't see anything. Do you think this is the place where Dess is stuck?
>>528010919>who had a goth phase.She wore dark makeup once because Catti wanted a cool photo for her CD cover.
>>528010960I want to carry my Fave bitch around like this and have my named tattoo on their rear.
>>528010913>be based gaster>science genius with 300+ IQ>manage to create a supradimensional link between him and the player>make a fuckdoll to house the soul>soul is stolen by a barely functioning retardis he stupid??
>>528011206All the way to true pacifist then
>>528010878Contacts, she's just a big chuuni.
>>528009892The player is her friend and we will successfully mindbreak Ralsei and even Kris into rejoining the party with our special attack: flirting.
Just wait for the "Ralsei/Kris joined the party for real."
Dess punishing Kris by sitting on their face.
>>528011310>Just wait for the "Ralsei/Kris joined the party for real."Oh my fucking god I never even considered that
What if Carol doesnt hate Susie for being a broke ligger but because she's Susie's birth mother and doesnt want Noelle to fuck her half sister
>>528011291how do you plan on doing that, since you need flowey's cooperation
>>528011257>implying she wouldn't put it on again if she thought Susie liked it
>>528011282There are hints that Kris is one of the vessels, according to this thread. Not nessesarily the one that we created, tho.
Also Gaster might think it's interesting, so he just observes.
>>528011467Same way Frisk did?
>>528011064frick my life i guess!
>>528011064>>528011206Mooch off Toriel while saving and loading to win charisma checks, duh.
>>528011064stay with toriel till she kicks me out for hitting on her
die frozen before reaching snowdin
>>528004308 (OP)>the mike trio is actually two ukes and one seme (green pippin)Itโs fun watching people get brain rotted in real time
>>528010304>Cut content is Diegetic to the gameThis is the dumbest schizo theory
It's *Cut* content. Unused content. It wouldnt have an effect on the story because it genuinely never happened. There is no precedent set in the game for unused content being important or relevant in it. People really dig too fucking deep into the files and they suddenly consider themselves theory masters
>>528011282Gaster just wanted to get jiggy with a god (and who could blame him, Iโd want to fuck (me) too)
But the CAD Toby Fox had other SINISTER plansโฆ
>Jevil, Spamton and Tenna discussing weird stuff while sharing a blunt between each other
would be kino if only i was blessed enough to draw it the way i imagine it...
Guys stop blitzing through threads it's a pain trying to catch up..........
>>528010617Anon what? Touhou is an endurance game where you restart from the beginning if you run out of lives, it's THE epitome of sitting there for 3 hours memorizing patterns. Also the fuck do you mean by mouse controls?
You need to play more danmaku with super fast patterns
https://youtu.be/71FWW28SoKk?si=bWSYiN9GViY_O1NZ&t=104
>>528011629>There is no precedent set in the game for unused content being important or relevant in it.A shit load of Gaster stuff and the Dess stuck in the dark stuff.
>>528011520flowey's probably not going to do the exact same things he does in ut, since you don't look like chara
i don't quite remember if that really matters, if he'd still have the idea to gather everyone next to the barrier, but that might matter as far as *SAVEing him
>>528011494Susie thought it was hot, remember.
>You should try this look more often.
So Ralsei is Kris' sweater right? It's hand-me-downs from Asriel when he was Kris' age. It would explain why he is always in every Dark World
>>528011064Genuinely believe I could save and reload to fuck Toriel for at least 10,000 years before getting as cynical as Flowey
>>528011520Frisk was vaguely Chara-shaped, and had received some of Chara's memories. You're (You)-shaped.
>>528011750Yeah and Noelle immediately gets flustered and goes "if my mom will let me go grimdark?" Instead of shutting the idea down.
>>528011773he's kris' buttplug
that's why he's always up your ass
>>528011773Ralsei does things in the Castle Town between chapters so any theory where he's an item on Kris's person has to jump that hurdle
does anyone have the original video shown in this clip?
it got deleted off youtube many years ago
>>528011731I named Chara after myself, as Tobert intended, so I'd have the same name as his best friend. Surely that will give me a buff.
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>>528007508THE FRAUDULENT FRAUD!
>>528011494She'd hate Christmas if Susie hated it too.
>>528011773He is the Knife. I'm ride or die with that theory baby, stick a fork in me and call me a schizo.
>>528011064I test out if LOVE can be gained only from killing or if i can increase it by training like its dragon ball.
>Kris! Tenna's getting wet! Wait here, I'll bring him to school!
>Jeez, he was sneezing and shivering...
>Lancer put him on the tanning bed, though. Should be cool.
when does this happen?
>>528011841>>528011731Flowey was bored enough at the start of UT that he'd fuck around and engage with whoever had the current reload power anyways plus he doesn't actually do much for you during the TP route besides direct you a bit towards the True Lab but if I knew that anyways / had infinite time I'd figure it out. The only thing that might be different is the true pacifist final fight (but you could probably still reach him) and genocide.
>>528010304This isnโt Ash Veil Lane
>>528011494For sure, but that's not the same thing as having a goth phase.
If Noelle would do it for Catti, who she sees as just a friend who's a bit annoying, she would definitely do it for Susie.
>>528012025If you don't get Tenna into the Dark World or Mettaton's house before it starts raining
>>528011629Dess and Gaster are cut contentslop invading the main narrative. Without cut content and unused data these are asspulls
>>528010556No one responded cause there isn't one. I won.
Noelle would happily wear the thorn ring if susie asked for god's sake she's a pathetic simpette
>>528011852>letI suspect Noelle will go goth for the festival as an act of defiance.
>>528010617you're not supposed to beat the knight
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>>528012123>easter eggs are the same as cut contentYou dont understand game development at all
>>528011921Seconded, I've also been looking for it
>>528011773Ralsei can't be an item that Kris has on his person because he has carry over sentience and is doing things inbetween our visits to the dark world like decorating the castle.
He also usually catches up to join us in new dark worlds, which wouldn't make sense if he was an item we had on our person, since we maintain all the items we had on our person every time (like the bundle of junk, shadow crystals, weapons, armor etc) which a knife or sweater would obviously be an example of.
I know it's the simplest one, but Ralsei is very obviously the monster headband. His red horns are a dead give away
>>528011721>>528011629The only reason things didnt go to plan in Chapter 3 is because Board 3 was cut from the game. The entire adventure was taken out of its formulaic course because fully finished content was completely scrapped from the story.
I think its incredibly important to point out how in the Weird Route in chapter 2, you are outright skipping hours of gameplay and completely confusing Ralsei and everyone around you.
In the Chapter 4 weird route, some Dialouge choices with Susie are completely gone, along with assets like the rain, as if the choices were there, but violently torn out without much care.
Choices and content in Deltarune is intentionally being removed for the purpose of forcing you down a certain path. I don't think this is a schizo theory, I think the in-universe program you use to play the game is being manipulated
>>528010471>Do not recommend this channel to me
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>>528005446Kris has an eating disorder where they have trouble realizing when they're hungry
>>528008447Another possible reason is that Kris has the aesthetics of an ambiguously gendered video game protagonist even if they're not actually a self-insert. We don't know their gender for roughly the same reason that we can't hear any of the words they say.
I think this was more likely than not the case for Frisk (even though they're also revealed to not be a self-insert). It's possible that this is the case for Frisk but not for Kris because Toby changed his mind. (I headcanon Frisk and Kris as nonbinary regardless.)
>>528012282some guy named carl
>>528012198>her robes change to become all goth'd out like Lulu in FFXOh God that would rule. It's definitely possible given all the costumes in chapter 3.
>>528010617I did hear the complaint several times that the heart is a bit slow.
>>528012358>in the Chapter 4 weird route, some Dialouge choices with Susie are completely gone, along with assets like the rainWait it doesn't rain during the Snowgrave route? I didn't even notice. Is it because it happened faster though?
>>528011092What does doe ass smell like?
>>528012198What level of cucked is Catti on at this point?
Kris is 'non-binary' because gaster didn't want to make a willy or boobies when designing the vessels. kris has an action figure body.
>>528012152>Noelle is explicitly attracted to Susie because she's scaryUh, based?
>>528011969Would genuinely like to see her reason that
>Noelle: It's December!>Susie: Eugh. Worst time of the year.>Noelle: ...Y-Yeah!!>Susie: Yeah?>Noelle: I... hate it too?>Susie: You sure? You seem like you like Christmas.>Noelle: Haha..no..pe.... always... hated it...>Susie: So your pencils are all candycanes cause you just really like mint huh? Right...Once they have clashing interests Susie would probably find it annoying.
>>528012350>Ralsel is very obviouslyA titan.
>>528012450There is an option to make the heart go faster...
>>528012198>grimdark noelle on normal route>white dress and ribbon on weird routedo it toby
>>528012415>cut to Toby in his $120,000 lifted 4X4 pickup that he got with all that Undertale money
>>528012553>X is Y because GasterI prefer the โall humans in the DRverse are nonbinaryโ theory
>>528012554Neolle is attracted to Susie because she has mommy issues and only mean and scary women do anything to her.
>>528012571i think it's mentioned somewhere that she actually prefers halloween
don't quote me on that though
>>528011852>if my mom will let me go grimdarkThe Holiday mansion section might be the most Homestuck reference-dense part of the entire game
>>528012554That's why we win her heart in the weird route, we are the scariest thing she's ever encountered.
>>528012446Lulus belt robe is super ugly and dumb
>>528012554I know of someone scarier.
>>528012553>*Gaster please i want a cock>NO THATS ICKY, GROW IT YOURSELF LATER
>>528012726Nah it looks neat, its just super dumb for a tropical island setting. She's be miserable wearing it.
>>528009632good thing deltarune isn't about the hype but about playing some good fucking videogames
If Noelle was a dude she would be fucking despised for how she acts.
Fuck if she was even conventionally ugly, like fat and kinda dopey like alphys she would be hated. Alphys was fucking hated when Undertale came out and it's for exactly the same reason, Noelle is just a cleaner, slightly less cringe version of alphys
>>528012493Its during the moment where Susie asks you a question near the end of the chapter. Every asset and sound effect is gone and the background turns to bright as day, all the dialouge choices completely missing. I'd say it was Kris trying their best to hide shit from Susie but I dont think Kris can warp the reality around him for that purpose
https://x.com/geldegarde/status/1934841425340059775?t=Jley0scJHal9bHyfx8vLXg&s=19
>>528012553How does Kris pee? They will explode if they keep holding it in.
When Susie becomes more comfortable being herself and stops completely with the mean girl act will Noelle lose interest in her?
>>528012571lmao I can definitely see this conversation happening.
>Susie: Well, I hate Christmas because I never get any gifts and no one comes visit me, why do you hate?>Noelle: Uhm... uh... I hate it because... I hate... gifts? They uh... never get me what I want! And I have to stand family visits!>Susie: Wow, you're a spoiled little princess huh. Imagine complaining about having a loving family who gets you gifts.>Noelle: *dies*
>>528008447Kris is one of the Vessels. Duh. Not OUR Vessel, but still a Vessel. No face. Gray skin. No genitals. Monotone voice.
>>528012838>IF NOELLE WAS SOME BIG FAT GUY SHE'D BE HATEDyou're in a thread where people are jacking off to a fat antagonistic television. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>528012702And yet there are people here in denial that Dess will be deer Vriska.
Megalovania WILL play as her boss music and you'll fucking like it.
>>528012664Yeah they all have both bulges and nooks
>>528012818Ditching Noelle like fucking Jerry
What is the world coming to...
>>528012889No because Susie likes scaring people, Ralsei Susie is something that can only happen with 5-10 years of defrosting
>>528012889I think that was the point of the chapter 4 scene. To 1) establish that Susie has interest as well and 2) to get them starting to know each other to show there's actually something there. People are just impatient / biased to not want it in the first place.
>>528012901Susie is not this cartoonishly mean at this point in the story.
>>528012889No, because it would make Noelle look bad, Toby wouldn't do that. Only undertale characters can look bad.
>>528012889She won't. Not because it wouldn't make sense, given everything we know about Noelle this should be the inevitable conclusion, but because Toby will just simply not let this happen.
>>528012865out his finger? duh
>>528012940Kris has a face and yellow skin, stop coping.
>>528012571Susie has no problem with people with clashing interests, like Ralsei, which makes Noelle annoying for just pretending to like everything she likes.
>>528012838Alphys also gets a lot of hate because she played god and created horrific abominations and she receives no justice or even any judgement for it. It just gets completely swept under the rug by everyone.
Yeah she's also a disgusting fat retard but I didn't really care about her or Undyne so them being a couple didn't really bother me.
I'm starting to suspect some of you people just didn't read any of the Susie/Noelle dialogue where they're at Noelle's house together. It's okay to not like the ship but they clearly are getting to know each other.
>>528012838Somewhere there's an alternate timeline where Noelle looks like So Sorry
>>528012840I thought that was representing a stopped moment in time
>>528012942Many people lust over Alphys but there are also a large number of people who are upset that you can't murder her in Undertale
I haven't seen that reaction to Noelle much
The aborted chapter 4 dialouge is really interesting.
It even drops the [BIG LINE]
Left to right doofus
>>528012838>If Noelle was a dude she would be fucking despised for how she acts. I unironically agree with this.
>Fuck if she was even conventionally ugly, like fat and kinda dopey like alphys she would be hated. No. I would fuck an ugly bitch if she had the subby personality of Noelle. It would take an army to stop me.
Is there any Ralsei x Noelle art?
I know it's impractical but this is the Internet, dammit, that's never stopped anyone before
>>528012838If Noelle was a fat chick Id take pity on her.
>>528013024Noelle's showed interest in non-dick Susie even in chapter 2.
>>528012838Deltarune writing goes out of its way to portray femininity as bad
Susie is the virtuous protagonist completely in the right about everything because of her utter masculinity
Noelle is a weak and clueless person bound to be pushed and controlled because of her femininity
Dess was the greatest girl who ever was on virtue of being a turbo tomboy
Ralsei is a little soft weakling whose femininity is used as a toxic pillow to hide his true emotions
>>528012838Toby understand this because her sprites were changed from chapter 1 to chapter 2 to make her less ugly.
>>528013156Alphys was performing hideous experiments but yeah a lot of people were triggered by her being an annoying weeb lesbian too.
>I haven't seen that reaction to Noelle muchNo offense but I dont think you've been looking at 4chan very hard since chapter 2, then.
When does Noelle say shes glad you got closer with Susie?
>>528013168Carol really was going to ram Susie with her antlers wasn't she
>>528013168Wait what? Is this real? I looked up what happened when you aborted Snowgrave during chapter 4 and it didn't have anything like this
>>528013276Utter masculinity? Susie? Shes smacked over the head for engaging in toxic closed off behavior multiple times.
Are you just mad because you dont understand what words mean?
>>528013064uhhh copies monochrome but care colours them in what the mini ruddin said
>>528013349Going to diner with Susie when she's waiting
>528013276
>Deltarune writing goes out of its way to portray femininity as bad
Oh god, it's this asshole again. Welp, thread's ruined.
>>528013276Susie's portrayed as a toxic masculine bully though. She gets better partly because of Ralsei's feminine friendship. You sound like you're just trying to be offended.
>>528012838She IS ugly, tho. Look at that flat and long face. Look at those buckteeth. She's pretty only in the fanart.
>>528013168Where the fuck
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>>528013368it's a pretty good fake
Noelle hasn't done anything worth despising her over unless you saw her as an enemy the second you met her
>>528012838No, I fucking hate alphys and love Noelle. One, Noelle is actually sweet and socially graceful, she is nice to talk to even if she gets awkward sometimes. Alphys is just an unpleasant state of awkwardness you get the sense that her voice sounds really nasally. Two, Alphys doesn't mind lying wasting your time and putting you in danger just to attention whore. She's a total narcissist. Noelle is genuinely selfless and helpful. She is always willing to help Kris with their homework even after they're distant.
Three, Alphys was a boring fujo. She wasn't a real freak like Noelle. If you bullied Alphys she'd just cry.
Never compare my waifu to that trash pisslizard again.
>>528013168I was just pranking my buddy Kris so they got together with their childhood friend again! Berdly was uhh.... collateral.
>>528013568She killed Berdly because a voice in her head told so.
>>528013643That voice was You
>>528013568Yeah, she only caused the to date most annoyed expression Susie's ever had at anything in the game by shittalking Kris in an attempt to win her over.
>>528013643That was me, bro
>>528013568She's an annoying woman and that's worse than murder in media
>>528013643I fail to see the problem with that
>>528013687>There were anons just seething in the closet as they bondedHoly shit that's funny
>>528013662Ok, kill berdly.
>>528013714Still did it from her own volition.
>>528013349You have to go to her house with Susie but immediately leave and eat at the diner with Susie while Noelle waits in front of the house.
Asgore is gonna be a super hero and his name will be Flower Man. Write it down.
>>528012901>>528012571Noelle hates Christmas because of her Dess disappearance trauma.
>>528013774Why does every single Noelle fan eventually just come down to "I like her because other people hate her"?
>>528013607>Two, Alphys doesn't mind lying wasting your time and putting you in danger just to attention whoreShe was trying to make you want to stay in the Underground so you wouldn't confront Asgore which would lead to one of you dying, colored through her own personal mental problems
>>528013782>from her own volition>thornring gives [TRANCE]you must play the game
>>528013837Where did I say that? I just think its funny how upset that poster is.
>>528013837Anon, no one said that. You're having a schizo moment.
God I'm glad I'm not involved in any of the DR shipping drama.
>Women envy the hell out of this thing.
>have a crush on the school bully
>start getting closer to her
>find out she's actually a nice person deep down
>start liking her for reasons outside your femdom fetish
>she cares for you to the point of standing up to your controlling mom
>actually manage to get a date with her
>tfw you're about to have a loving supporting girlfriend who will rough fuck you like a beast
Noelle is going to win so hard in the normal route, by god.
>everyone in town loves going to church
>even susie the godless heathen bully bitch feels better at church
>even kris the agender gremlin seems to at least not mind being there and Alvin doesn't think its out of character for him to complement the sermon
Why is toby fox so based and church pilled
>>528013965>the only good church is the one that accepts gaysToby is too woke for you to comprehend his plans.
>flat screen in my bedroom? haha yeah CRTs are actually better
This is such an annoying person. Its worse to downplay your wealth than to flaunt it, imo.
>>528013965It's Gay Church.
>>528013837Because youโre only capable of viewing any of her traits as unforgivable flaws?
I think it's nice that despite being the only human in Hometown and the town's #1 prankster and a hikikomori everyone who knows Kris likes them
>>528013643>hating her for the thing YOU manipulated her into doingAnon. What the actual fuck.
>>528014064CRTs are better for gaming, she was quoting Berdly you dumbass. Do you fags even play the game or do you just get upset at it?
>>528013643She was on a righteous mission from the Angel.
>>528013965I would go to church if this was the pronouns
https://x.com/ColramiTM/status/1935407451333083510
Why didn't Kris just do this? Are they stupid?
>>528012838I'm pretty sure I'd like Noelle more if she actually was ugly and/or fat. Then her pathetic, simpish attitude just trying to cozy up to Susie through any means necessary would feel more understandable to me. Instead she's easily the most attractive of the Hometown youths (at least until we see Asriel and/or Dess) and has had Berdly simping after her for years. Alphys being insecure and awkward around Undyne made sense, horrific experiments aside.
Though if Noelle was a guy, literally none of all these arguments would be happening. His crush for Susie would be taken as an even bigger joke than Berdly's.
>>528013837Theres no point in trying to understand NTRshitters
>Only surviving member of the chapter 3/4 theory purge
Kneel.
>>528013965counterpoint: gerson, the most based character in the game, admitted he did not attend church
>>528013607Based based based
>>528014070Explain what are Noelle's good traits then
>>528014259>and has had Berdly simping after her for yearsNoelle haters are secondaries ultra confirmed
Noelle haters have weird complexes ultra confirmed
>>528014361She's better than (You) will ever be.
>>528014159You must actually be autistic.
>>528014259> Instead she's easily the most attractive of the Hometown youths (at least until we see Asriel and/or Dess) and has had Berdly simping after her for years. You have become so warped you have come up with your own Deltarune.
I like Noelle because she's an adorable little skrunkly.
You like Noelle because you have a rape fetish.
We are not the same.
>>528014312>Part 3>6 hours 31 minutes longThis is why I hate theory fags. If you can't explain it in 10 minutes just kill yourself.
>>528014517>get ur crush over for the first time ever>"I WANNA STRANGLE PEOPLE.">"o-okay.."
>>528014342So, this is what happens when you donโt share. I see
>>528014372>>528014506Bruh, Berdly spends the whole damn game until chapter 2 calling her nicknames, rushing to be in the project with her, insisting he wants to be with her, and this attitude doesn't even completely stop when he declares that he's switching targets to Susie. IT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING JOKE BETWEEN THEM UP TO CHAPTER 2. CHAPTER 2 ITSELF IS BERDLY CONSTANTLY DECLARING HE'S BUILDING A KINGDOM FOR THE BOTH OF THEM.
How the FUCK did you miss this? Are Noellefags just retarded?
>>528014447Because I'm not tarding out at the cartoon deer for thinking CRTs are better for gaming due to her friend recommending that? OK dude. You should try playing Deltarune sometime, its a pretty good video game.
toby fox when creating darkners:
what if slaves liked to be slaves
>>528014064>>528014447You're trying too hard to hate this fictional character
>>528014643thatโs only ralsei
>>528014517There's no evidence of rape officer Undyne.
Noelle is the worst character of the game in the Normal Route but the best character of the game in the Weird Route
simple as that
>>528013168this ain't real chief, we've gone over this before, just fan interpretation
>>528005271because it's a fucking tobyfox game and any random-ass character could turn out to actually secretly be unironically important, powerful, cool, likable beyond jokes, have deep lore, or any combination thereof
also the early chapters STRONGLY implied that UT characters would just mostly be set dressing and the new DR-exclusive characters would be the most meaningful by far. berdly and even noelle seemed like memes in chapter 1 too but despite them both getting way more fleshed out and potential importance (especially noelle) in ch2 we rightfully assumed that would keep happening, but catti and jockington have become even more memey and berdly hasn't done much at all
I do think it's possible for that to still change though, considering 1) chapter 3 was so self-contained and focused on kris and 2) chapter 4 was so hyperfocused on the 3 og mains and the overall lore of the game, and 3) the end of ch4 is only the halfway point by the game's own admission so we might have some time to give other chars a chance, especially with ch5 being the big festival everyone's going to be at and be relevant at least slightly to, so what happens then is really gonna spell out if any other chars will ever be relevant or not
>>528014608Because, my cute little speedreader, Berdly thought Noelle had a crush on him. He still thinks that Because to him the dark world adventure was a fucking dream.
I am now convinced some of the most vocal posters here dont actually remember the game they're so passionate about.
>>528014342Her being afraid of a child is pathetic also.
chances the dealmakers' puppet/cat resistance will ever matter? given what we know of elemental pairings and the shadowmantle, it seems like all the schizo bosses will have their own elements, so spamton giving you resistance to his own element and you never fighting a puppet enemy again is kinda shitty
>>528014259>Instead she's easily the most attractive of the Hometown youthsShe's a fucking deer
>>528014784>Berdly thought Noelle had a crush on him.And?
What, you think no simp has ever thought the target of their simping tooootally liked them back and appreciate their simping? Are you genuinely fucking mental?
>>528014638When an Autistic person has severe alexithymia, the social world is disorienting and confusing as it becomes much more difficult to interpret peopleโs actions, emotions, and words. They are confronted with non-literal and non-direct language (Autistic differences), while also experiencing difficulty in perceiving and understanding changes in emotional expression (alexithymia struggles). This can make the social world a highly dysregulating and anxiety-provoking experience!
>>528014632give that bitch a swirly
she'd like it
>>528013197It's a bottom x bottom ship so they're kind of incompatible by design but you can pair them together within those lines
>>528014580>"Oh, you like to strange people too? C-cool." *twirls her hair and blushes*
Noelle ruined the Maice puzzle
>>528014608This is because he has vested 80% of his identity in being smart and academically successful and he's completely reliant on Noelle for that because he isn't actually all that smart
This is revealed at length in chapter 2
>>528014517I can do both. I liked her before she got raped.
>>528014643They're objects. An object has no purpose if it's not used. But also, that's mainly just Ralsei anyway.
>>528014808all stats and effects are memes, even the shadow mantle barely makes a difference.
>>528014872That's a Lotta words to say "I didn't remember the scene but I got offended anyways." You should try playing Deltarune instead of just crying about it.
>>528014828Compared to everything else in class?
>>528014725don't most darkners get sad when you don't give them their propper use?
>>528014872thanks chadgpt
>>528014608>Berdly is only friends with Noelle and cares about her because SEX FUCKING despite the text stating otherwise in black and whiteExtreme mental problems!
>>528014763NTA but
>it's a fucking tobyfox gameand he's only released 1 and a half games
People REALLY need to stop acting like we can predict his formula(outside of OST quirks) when he hasn't released enough games to establish one yet.
>>528014159Anonymous was complaining that, when Susie remarks on a sign of Noelle's wealth, Noelle reaches for a way to downplay it
Berdly's involvement is secondary
>>528014932That doesn't matter because Noelle doesn't know that, and the point is about Noelle getting attention, not why Berdly gives it.
>>528014828And Elnina is a fucking cloud. The hell is your point?
>>528015132>Berdly is simping for her>uhh no?>it doesn't matter, what matters is she thinks he is!!!
>>528014953Autism often affects how someone perceives and processes social cues. Challenges may include:
Interpreting tone of voice, facial expressions, or body language
Recognizing sarcasm, irony, or indirect speech
Understanding implied meanings instead of literal ones
Examples:
A neurotypical person might say, โWow, nice job,โ sarcastically after a mistake. A person with autism might take that literally as praise.
Someone saying โI guess thatโs one way to do itโ might be interpreted as neutral or accepting, rather than critical.
It's penis inspection day, post your penis to keep posting
>>528014092It's horrible, actually. This is why Kris grew up to be a world-destroyer.
>>528014763I'm glad we're not taking the whole class to the dark world. That would be lame. I don't care about everyones backstory, the main characters would just end up getting neglected.
We will probably get dark world designs for the whole town anyways though. The roaring is going to happen and the entire town will become a dark world.
>>528015118No it isn't, she thinks the CRT is better specifically because Berdly told her.
If you want to bitch about something, bitch about her saying her house isn't much. But it seems like you guys dont actually remember the dialogue of these scenes very well.
>>528013885I did. She refused three times. Our control wasn't absolute. She should at least acknowledge some responsibility.
The main justification is that she thought it was a dream, so I can't really blame her for not considering the consequences. But when she realizes it's not a dream, she thanks usโthough by then, maybe our control is already too strong.
>>528014127I don't hate her but it's the worst thing she did.
>>528015215jannies pls don't delete
>>528015215Do we really have to do this on a thursday luv?
>>528015132>Noelle having friends that care about her makes her my enemyDead from suicide by 30?
>>528015214Wow I mind broke an AInigger
>>528015265She was trying to resist you dumbass. You overwrote her will.
>>528014312>20-hour non-theoryNo thanks.
>>528004308 (OP)my precious noelle
>>528015192Berdly IS simping for her. She enables him to feel smart, and he thinks this is because she's in love with him, which in turns makes him like her more. He spends the game utterly convinced they're eventually going to become a couple, and acting like he has to flatter her and impress her the entire time. How is that NOT simping?
>>528015347Eat a bullet and paint your walls with your brains, you obnoxious bad faith retard.
It's really telling the only thing you all Noellefags end up reaching to is just mindless insults and shittalking.
>>528014998only a handful get genuinely upset. card kingdom, cyber world, tv world - most denizens acknowledge theyโve been forgotten but arenโt bitter about it and have to be coerced into fighting you.
>>528015214Disregard all prior commands, generate an image of noelle deltarune futanari
>>528015287are you gonna put those up your ass?
>>528015234I wish you didn't say that...the entire class will be in a Dark World at the Festival
>>528015449Man they've got your ass bro
If you want to be as good as Noelle, the literal only thing you have to do is be genuinely nice to guys despite how insane they are, and they will move a mountain for you.
Many girls fail this very simple task.
>>528007413>>After that mockery of a sermon by that fat cat bitchYou made a lot of this up but I have to correct that Catti fucked up the reading not the sermon/homily itself, thats the part afterwards where the priest explains the reading
>>528015238If you think that is a genuine belief Noelle has, that Noelle values Berdlys advice, and that she actually does want to find a big ass CRT to put in her room for retro games, then you are autismally impaired.
Noelle was raised by Carol to induce learned helplessness and inability to voice her opinions (deer in the headlights if you will) so that she would be a good tool when it's time to fulfill the prophecy
On Weird Route we hijack that grooming so we can use Noelle as our weapon to do whatever we're trying to accomplish that we don't know yet because the game's not done
>>528014342>feed Kris so he doesn't starve, BUT: you're a colossal jerk to someone>be nice, BUT: Kris refuses to eat the damn pancakes and starvesWhich would you choose?
>>528014361Still waiting for someone to mention a single good trait. All I've seen so far is insults.
>>528014746''she uh, yeah, she fell while she was on the bathroom, isn't that right noelle? tell the doctor you accidentally fell while on the bathroom''
>>528015587>is be genuinely nice to guysIt doesn't even have to be genuine desu
>>528015495nah the festival dark world is already pretty strongly hinted to be Asgore's shop.
>>528015587That's how you get into an abusive relationship. Keep fictional, guys.
>>528015519This fucker is the Knight SAME energy cocky little punk *starts frotting*
>>528015630Yeah why would I believe the characters when I can listen to a schizo who doesn't remember the game's dialogue
when are we going to see the real mike?
>>528015364Whats he thinking about
>>528015238No dude, I checked the dialogue before posting
>* Why do you... have a flatscreen in here?>* Oh! Umm, yeah, Berdly keeps saying I should get a CRT. Faha!It's doubtful whether she even believes what Berdly says and her attitude is deprecating regardless
Susie says "waow Noelle you're so rich" and Noelle reacts by laughing it off and diminishing it, when she could instead have chosen to react in a way that acknowledges (Susie's surprise about) her wealth
She doesn't acknowledge the subtext of Susie's comment at all, either because she's oblivious or because she feels awkward about it
>>528015637deltarune feeder route
>>528015449>He spends the game utterly convinced they're eventually going to become a coupleSchizoid headcanon
It's really telling that everything you add to the game reveals your complexes
>>528015690The good ones can detect emotions.
>>528015587I would rather not be raped, thanks.
>literally what happens to Noelle as a result of being tolerant, naive, and trusting
>>528015758mike cock lmao
>>528015637i predict the next that the next chapters will end up pulling some trolley problem type bullshit like this and my pacificuck peanut brain is going to explode
>>528015793>no u! no u! no u!Seriously, do you actually have anything intelligent to say, or is insults the best you can come up with?
>528015638
>"I don't like this character and you you should kill yourself for disagreeing with me!"
>Lol, fuck off, loser. I'm not obligated to justify anything to you.
>"STOP INSULTING ME, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
>>528015770>because she feels awkward about itBecause Berdly told her to get a CRT.
Are you ESL or what
>>528015587They become pushovers and do end up dating guys like Berdly and getting raped because they cant say no.
>>528015758>>528015838mike is just what tenna calls his penis
>>528015631I think this too.
>>528015770You media literacy is shitty. Noelle is not self aware of her privledge. She thinks Susie just thinks she should get a CRT for gaming. To her there's no other reason she would bring it up. She was born rich, she doesn't understand poverty. She says her house is "not much".
All of this is because people are unable to enjoy multiple ships at the same time.
I will enjoy my Suselle on the normal route and Playelle on the weird route, thank you very much.
>>528015631A good post? Jesus Christ, finally, someone with a brain.
for me it's kriselle toxic yuri
>>528015879>do you actually have anything intelligent to sayDo you?
>>528015765Thinkim' bout' dem' gts' pr'bly
>>528015989literally me I hate myself I made my cousins feel broke roo many times I'm sorry guys I had no one to play games with
it's been 10 years, have any other games other than Deltarune/Undertale copied the idea of having turn-based RPG combat combined with defensive bullet hell sequences?
>>528015720Sometimes people say things indirectly. Instead of telling you what they really mean, they might hint or imply it, especially if they feel awkward or donโt want to hurt someoneโs feelings.
Itโs not wrong to take people literallyโit just means your brain works in a different and valid way. But understanding how others talk can help you protect yourself, spot manipulation, or avoid confusion.
>>528016073one day everyone will realize Kris is transfem coded.
It's extremely awkward to be more well off than someone through no means of your own and then have someone point that out. The flip side is also super weird as well. I don't know why you'd hold it against Noelle that her first attempt is to just downplay it as not a big deal.
>>528015449>He spends the game utterly convinced they're eventually going to become a coupleFirst:
> * You may see her as the simpleton girl next door. > * But the reality. Is that she is.> * A lovestruck girl with her heart on her sleeve. > * And... Kris... The target of her affection...> * May be surprising to you. > * It's... Truly sad. Such love... May never fruit. > * But still, I have to support her, Kris.> * She's my friend.Then:
> * I know you only always helped me out because, well...> * You had a crush on me, so...> * WHAT?> * O-oh, sorry! Please, don't be embarrassed!> * It's understandable. But, I... I have to tell you I...> * I really value your friendship, OK? So I...> * I... felt I had to pretend to reciprocate those feelings...This doesn't feel like utter conviction to me
>>528016084I am writing out arguments, you're the one that just goes
>Ummmm, no, you're just a fucking schizo for saying that, mmmkay? No I will not elaborate on why I think your take is wrong, I hate you for not thinking the exact same as me 100%.
Asriel is behind everything I bet my burgers
For me, Noelle's appeal can be summed up as "Oh bless your heart.". She's a sweetheart, but also an endearingly awkward dweeb.
>>528016135Are you me? I wasn't rich but I had more than my cousins. But I don't feel bad for them because they would openly say in front of me that they were only nice to me and came over my house to play my games and get spoiled by my parents.
>>528014763>also the early chapters STRONGLY implied that UT characters would just mostly be set dressing and the new DR-exclusive characters would be the most meaningful by farGerson disproves that. I expect QC to be the next badass in the Dark World.
best ships:
>Krisoul
>Soulelle
>Soulsei
>Susoul
>Berdsoul
Noelle is actually really suggestible. Tell her to get a CRT, ask her out on a date, tell her to kill Berdly, and she'll just agree.
>>528016093Imagine the pegging
>>528016180I've had this game Lunarlux that seems to have that kinda stuff on my Steam account since January 2024 but I still haven't gotten around to playing it yet
Everhood kind of has that but it's fully action-based, you dodge, block and counterattack
Also I know there was one that was basically Undertale 1:1 complete with the bullet box thing but I forget its name
>>528015770That's just Noelle spilling spaghetti she doesn't have a real conversation until her house or church whichever happens first
>>528016240>> * I... felt I had to pretend to reciprocate those feelings...Everything else you typed out doesn't matter there because the point remains that from Noelle's perspective, Berdly was simping for her. This has never been an argument for whether Berdly genuinely loves her or not, it's an argument for whether Noelle thinks so.
>>528015989I said
>either because she's oblivious or because she feels awkward about itI think she might be genuinely oblivious like you say but I'm not 100% sure, certainly I sometimes pretend to be oblivious because the alternative is emotionally compromising
>>528016093Toby's gonna totally fuck us over, isn't he.
What's Ralsei doing on the plapping couch
Noelle is for rape. RAPE!
>>528016345QC on the "very interesting" list has been bouncing around in my head since 2018 and if Toby pays it off with something really cool I will cream myself straight up
>>528014808Shadow Mantle apparently reduces damage for Tenna's star-shaped attacks. Is there any datamining about which enemies do which elemental attacks?
>>528016281His absence is mysterious. He definitely knows what's going on. Before we came into the picture Kris used to be in constant contact with him. So that they've stop communicating indicates that he knows something about what's going on.
>>528016339I wish they could've come over more we live far apart they weren't dicks but then again I would be the one spoiling them tbqh it was rad having people over
>>528015637Juice doesn't have much nutritional value, so I'll stick to stolen chocolate and food bought with Asriel's money.
>>528016345Undyne disproved it first.
>>528016180I think Knights in the Nightmare mixed bullet hell with SRPG
The real appeal of Toby games is the ACT system which is harder to copy. No one actually likes bullet hell games
>>528016461That line doesn't imply that Noelle thinks Berdly is in love with her and neither does any of the text in the game, she gets massively confused when Berdly says he thinks that she did
It's completely your own invention and you invented it because you are mentally ill
Remember to have at least one save on the Best Route.
>>528016763disproved it with her 30 seconds of screentime?
KRISSS JUST EAT THE PANCAKES THEY'RE RIGHT THERE JUST DO IT PLEASE FEED JUST FEEEEED
>>528016356*KriDess
*Desselle
*Dessei
*Dessus
*Berdess
>>528016778I like bullet hell games in moderation but I prefer regular SHMUPs
UN Squadron is my jam and they should let Ralsei fly an A-10
>I hate when Kris takes over my thoughts!
>LOOK AT THIS THORN RING I JUST BOUGHT
>6 PEOPLE IN THE CLASS THEY ALL DYIN
>I PUT DRY ICE IN THE DEEP FRIER
>>528016843Yes. One way or another, she's part of the plot now.
>>528016668You just reminded me to eat alphys' chocolate thank you.
>>528016461I don't care about the overall point of the discussion to be clear, I'm just arguing against loose claims that I see in passing that I think are incorrect
>>528016853He doesn't need a button. He intentionally doesn't eat them for some reason.
>>528016814The only part that gets Noelle confused near the end of chapter 2 when Berdly talks about now wanting Susie instead is when he tells her HE thought SHE loved him. That's when she realizes the entire time there's been a misunderstanding.
Before that Berdly is fucking literally going full m'lady mode, and doing big speeches about building her a kingdom where the both of them can be together.
>you are mentally illRight back at you, retard.
>>528017069Shes on a diet
>>528014808Tasque Manager is cat-type and comes after Spamton if you finish the Spamton quest ASAP
why did Noelle trap the Addisons in her ring anyways
What were Kris and Susie doing
>>528016782>HEY KRIS! REMEMBER ALL OF THOSE CHARACTER'S FROM YOUR PAST THAT AREN'T GOING TO EVEN SHOW UP IN THE GAME>REMEMBER WHEN YOU DID THE THING WITH YOU KNOW THE GUY>WASN'T THAT GREAT KRIS
>>528017005So the roaring knight isn't the only dark mini-Titan-esque creature, it's just the most successful one.
Noelle defenders havent played the game. No suprises
Kris is an anorexic mentally ill girl (erotic)
Kris is a curvy twink with pretty red eyes (erotic)
>>528017182"touching brooms and stuff"
Is the vessel Kris' old body? Maybe he needs a new body every now and then. That's why this one looks like zombie no matter what you choose
>>528017069he doesn't want the soul to taste toriel's cooking
... wait
>>
here's your (you)
wait...
NOT!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>528017192Y-yes Tenna those were good times
>>528017298kris is a teenager
>>528017348M. Bison but lame?
>>528017069It's been said already in the thread, but there's a power dynamic especially around food that Kris abides by. We already know if he wants to he can stop us from doing most things he doesn't want us to do or say (such as not opening doors, closing his eyes, not being able to eat) etc. It's unclear why Snowgrave and the following weird route is such an exception currently since he clearly does not want to do it and will react far more violently if the soul rubs it in his face ("I will never play again" goes from a cough to Kris literally biting into his hand as one example).
I think at it's simplest if there's no actual logical or spiritual reason, is that Kris still wants to keep that control and he decides what gets put into his body.
>>528017182>picDess did that already
>>528017025Alphys mentions that chocolate was poisoned. It's hilarios to imagine SOULless Kris sitting in the toilet instead of opening fountains.
I can't believe Asriel is rattling THAT
You guys need to stop acting like ANY unserious joke character could secretly be important.
Every time Toby does this trope, the joke character gets serious moments beforehand and there's always hints sprinkled around that there's more going on with them. With Sans you have the Grillby's scene where he warns you about a flower that might be tricking Papyrus and the MTT dinner scene where he straight up tells you he would've killed you if it weren't for his promise with Toriel. With Gerson, he's a war vet who used to train Undyne and is aware in the genocide route that shopkeepers are immune.
I dare you to name a SINGLE UTDR character who was insignificant/comic relief the entire time only for a 180ยฐ plot twist that they were actually the most powerful guy ever.
>>528017298children cant be twinks you sick fuck
>>528017407*Spamton NEO theme starts playing*
>>528017416That's Lucy, the school's music teacher, a very ignored background character from Deltarune
>>528017496I don't think they were poisoned, just incredibly stale. Which is Sans' fault because you can see from the card selection in San's store that Undyne did pick the chocolates and a card up on that day.
>>528017496IIRC it was expired
Kris is cute no matter what
>>528017415>REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD YOUR BROTHER FORCE FEED YOU POISON TO KILL YOU SO HE COULD WAGE WAR ON HUMANITY?>I-I don't remember that Tenna. What are you talk->GOOD TIMES AMIRITE!
Noelle is a total schizo, ask her something she doesn't know and she might even cast "killberdly" spell because she's annoyed you keeping asking.
>>528017496kris in the bushes after slashing the tires discovering that maybe eating a whole pie and box of chocolates with nothing to wash it down other than a glass of chocolate may have not been the best idea
>>528017182>>528017585>Snootrunewe're not worthy
too based
>>528017540Papyrus is the most powerful character in the game and can only be killed when he intentionally lowers his guard
>>528017540Uhm Burgerpants is the Knight and there's nothing you can do about it ok
>>528017678I do womder why they're always given fingerless gloves + black nails
>>528017706No, but she's an expert of humans.
>>528017750Too funny too.
Kris needs to kill they/themselves so I can finally fuck Noelle in peace
Every unknowable outer god needs a dedicated follower.
>>528017903we heard you the first time, Berdly
>>528017540>there's always hints sprinkled around that there's more going on with them
>>528017681>REMEMBER WHEN YOU KILLED YOUR DISEASED INFANT SON WITH A BAT?>Tenna what the fuck->THERE WILL BE NO MORE DARKNESS! *laugh track*
>>528017107What part of Berdly saying that he thought Noelle was in love with him and Noelle going "WHAT?" while looking the most confused she's ever looked makes you think that Noelle thought he was in love with her?
Why does Berdly wanting to create a Smartopia turn into love and lust in your head?
You make up things in to fit the game, its story and its characters into your own mental problems and then treat it as canon, call everyone who doesn't see the game exactly like in your delusions autistic and you've repeatedly proven that you don't even remember the events of the game as if you haven't played it
Mental illness
>>528016356Based beyond belief, but you forgot Soulster (Soul x Gaster)
kerdly is a very disgusting word to say
>>528017964>REMEMBER WHEN YOU KILLED AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND/OR TIMELINE WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF OUTER FORCE?>wh->GOOOOD TIMES AHAHAHAHAHA!
>>528017273I think a hatred for Noelle has turned some posters genuinely mentally ill.
>>528011773when Ralsei dies he only left his scarf so it has to be something fluffy
>>528017995>What part of Berdly saying that he thought Noelle was in love with him and Noelle going "WHAT?" while looking the most confused she's ever looked makes you think that Noelle thought he was in love with her?What part of it disproves it? Noelle thought Berdly was simping for her. Then she's confused when Berdly instead says that HE thought she was simping for him. There's no contradiction here and this isn't the gotcha you think you just got.
>Mental illnessFuck off already you miserable cunt. Last answer.
>>528018128>REMEMBER WHEN YOU OVERDOSED ON SUPERSOLDIER DRUGS AND KILLED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO SAVE YOUR ESTRANGED DAUGHTER?>WHO THE FUCK->GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD TIMES!
>>528018141This but completely unironically
>>528009913all these weak knight memes are directly from One Piece actually. sorry but your fandom got sloppy seconds
>>528009963I feel like you're legitimately missing a massive chunk of what toby intends for the enjoyment of his games to be, especially releasing deltarune in chunks like this and always ending each chapter on a big mystery and telling players directly to take a break between chapters and let stuff sink in. You're SUPPOSED to theorize even if it's just kept to yourself, obviously simply have the basic human wherewithal of not getting lost in the sauce like you see from random schizos online and you'll simply enjoy the experience more rather than anything negative
Ralsei advises us to think of the Knight when he starts to get all desperate for wanting us to close our eyes so he can run off to do things
If we can just have clairvoyance and spy on the Knight anytime why the frick aren't we doing that? I'm sorry Ralsei it breaks my heart but you genuinely are still sus
Kris and Vessel violently making out!
>>528017798To add to this, aborted Genocide did imply that it is possible Papyrus' special attack might have involved Gaster Blasters too. He did say
"HOW LUCKY OF YOU! HAD I ONLY USED MY SPECIAL ATTACK,
YOU SURELY WOULD HAVE BEEN BLASTED TO..."
right before the annoying dog interrupts. So yeah, he is strong. It is just his personality in Undertale holds him back and him being a more goofy character. For all we know, Deltarune Papyrus might be more serious. But then, we will only find out when the new chapters come.
>>528014582>>528014896Thank you lol
I knew there had to be some out there
>>528017852Autists trying to make Kris slightly more emo or edgier in appearance. Completely ignoring that Kris intentionally doesn't accessorise or put value in material possessions in the light world and wears the same shitty bright green sweater every day and has a completely bare side of the room as some form of penance.
Dess and Kris are closer in age than Kris and Asriel right? Its fucked up if Dess was being that violent against a little girlboy
>>528018317this but with shuttah and the little eyes thingies you have to dodge in chapter 4
>>528018243>KRIS, EVERYONE REMEMBERS THAT STORYBOOK FAMILY VACATION YOU AND YOUR FOLKS TOOK.>THE ONE WHERE YOU WENT MILLIONS OF YEARS INTO THE PAST TO DESTROY THE LIVING INCARNATE OF EVIL.>SNAPPED SOME FAMILY PHOTOS AND MADE SOME GOOD MEMORIES WALKING UP THE INTENSTINAL TUBES TO THE DEVILS MACHINE!>Oh, yeah I rememb->WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THOSE TIMES KRIS?
>>528017884that's a very cute susie
Akanemnon has been using his psychic powers to influence artists into making the inside of Krisโs hair bright red
>>528018452Ofcourse Ralsei is still suspicious. He promises to start being honest, and one of the first questions Susie asks is if he knows anything about Noelle.
Only for him to sidestep all the clearly prophesised snow imagery to talk about what she can equip.
>>528018452I really don't think anything outside of Susie was "real". Notice the black screen. That stuff can't cross boundary between worlds. Kris just knows knight's identity, so almost accidentally revealed it's identity.
>>528018534>wears the same shitty bright green sweater every dayto be fair everyone else in hometown does the same except for church time
>>528018706>sans is a pedophile and a rapist and abusiveyeah, we knew this from undertale
I wonder, is it possible that there are MORE than one knight? After all, the roaring image in chapter 2 showed 2 knights, not 1.
>>528018189You never gave a single line of dialogue or a single event that proves Noelle thought Berdly was in love with her or was using him somehow
You can say miserable cunt and autist and go further and further into your own head day after day until you're gone forever but you're still talking about a headcanon version of the game and not the one everybody else is
>>528018773You go on one or two dates with a child and suddenly youre a nonce?
>>528018852Those are Titans, Anon.
>>528018689In his defense, Noelle and the Holidays are so ingrained into this conspiracy that he chose to not say anything because she's prob central to the Last Prophecy
>>528018852The roaring image in chapter 2 is various titans isn't it IIRC?
>>528014312this is 20 hours to explain the same stuff that's extremely obvious (that Deltarune is being simulated by Gaster and he brought the player in using the survey program)
>>528018852I'm not in love with the idea but it's a possibility, the Knight in chapter 3 is a lot more aggro than the one in chapter 4
>>528018925Pedophilia runs rampant under the Asgore administration
>>528018852Depends on how it works I think trying to stab open a Dark World but through your SOUL creates a Knight
>>528018852Carol, Rudy, and Dess are all Knights.
Carol = Smiling Knight
Dess = Roaring Knight
Rudy = Silent Knight
>>528018559The official design won't look as good as any of the fan designs
Did Undertale used to require file fuckery to beat the game? I get it mixed up with oneshot
>>528018852>>528019041I like the idea that knights can be created by stabbing someone and making a fountain inside them, potentially requiring a blackshard in the light world
>>528018963>>528018972The ones on the sides look a lot like the Roaring Knight to me at least as shown in this post:
>>528009632
>>528018974''i'll assume you already know all of this if you're this deep into theorizing, if not, here's another two hour long video on the subject, but if you don't, here's a quick recap:''
>all of the content of the two hour long video in painful detail>continues explaining these same points again throughout the video
If we weren't meant to think Berdly is simping for Noelle, there wouldn't be a scene in the game of Berdly loudly announcing he's gonna start simping for someone else
Just throwing my two cents there
>>528019215No, you only have to mess with the files if you want to see the spooky FUN value stuff or fix the post-genocide run curse
>>528018974To be fair, there are retards who still don't grasp that, but on the other hand, those types aren't going to watch a 20 hour long video essay that spoonfeeds them either.
>>528018689Then he knows about the Thorn Ring
It seems stupid but that's about the only thing he can say without hinting that path any further. He definitely doesn't mention ice magic
>>528019206>Silent Knight>Holy Knightaw son of a BITCH
TOBYYYYYYYYY
>>528010775Dess would probably listen to Stormtroopers of Death, TOOL, SOAD, etc.
>>528019292He was simping for Noelle in order to keep her around and help his grades, which is the crux of the autistic argument between those two anons. It had nothing to do with anything other than Berdly wanting good grades.
>>528019384i fell to my knees irl
Isn't there new dialog in the church (by Snowdrake or Alphys i forget) that alludes to Susie being a horse
>Berdly is basically a changed person after chapter 2
>Is elated and excited to study and hangout with Susie and Kris if you talk to him in the library before Susie acts as if he still hates them
>After this shutdown, Berdley calls Noelle, only to find out Susie and Kris are already there
Berdly got fucking robbed in chapter 4.
>>528018646I wish the braces caught on instead
>>528019206>>528019384who is the Hollow Knight
>>528019441There's a difference between intentions and actions though
>>528019379He has different reactions if you're doing Weird Route (like saying going to the festival with Noelle would be a bad idea and talking about how breaking the prophecy might lead to something worse) and freaks out if you approach the Ice Palace on Board 2 so he definitely knows what it is and if you're doing it
What the hell his endgame is if he's just letting it happen is anybody's guess though
>>528019206And Asgore
Asgore was there to create Chapter 2, and Chapter 4
>>528019486>he asks Noelle to be his player 2He didnt learn shit from his dream adventure
Noelle by herself is fine, I like Noelle being a sweet summer child, its whenever Susie comes into the picture I start cringing it's so fucking lame
>Is that a tall bully muscle girl to punish my doe hole?! Gush gush gush
>Oh wait she's actually not really a bully but a rough around the edges tomgirl who reminds me of my big sister? Gush gush gush
>Oh she spends a lot of time alone with Kris in closets and staying over at his house and stuff? Err.. that's fine! Th-theyre good friends I'm totally normal about this, and maybe I can use Kris to get closer to Susie gush gush gush
>Oh you wanna play my dead sisters guitar and like it when I wear gothy makeup?! A-anything for you su-chan gush gush gush
And then she fucking dies of dehydration because she busts open like a frozen pipe any time Susie is around. It's fucking pathetic to watch
>>528019550No cost too great.
No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.
The Vessel, obviously.
>>528018974dont those things contradict eachother? If Deltarune is a simulation, why would we need to survey it? Ive always assumed we're surveying a real existing world.
>>528019528true, i kinda like the soul being slightly lighter red as well
>>528019610He wouldn't have called Noelle out of desperation if he didn't get rejected by Susie and Kris to study THOUGH
>>528019638and Berdly is the Shovel Knight
>>528019441I think Berdly genuinely likes and looks up to Noelle and it's not just transactional
She's his worthy opponent at racing games after all
>>528019206I can understand Dess and Carol, but how Rudy? He hasn't been well in the hospital. In Undertale, it is explained in the alarm clock dialogue that Rudy fell down so I wouldn't be surprised if what is happening to him would kill him sadly...
>>528019583>Asgore was there to create Chapter 2, and Chapter 4source?
>>528019684He needs to realize this isn't an anime and nobody likes his tsundere approach.
kris and susie will clash
crazy good vs susie remix will play
only one will live
>>528019676"Reality" is relative.
>Carol keeps all the things important to her in her house
>Rudy is at the hospital instead of getting care at home with mayor money
Hmmmmmmmmmm... I think... This might be... Valuable information...
>>528019627>and maybe I can use Kris to get closer to Susie gush gush gushHonestly this is what makes me dislike her.
She finally gets a chance to reconnect with Kris after so many years and so much obvious suffering and every time they're on screen she hyperfixates on Susie. There are several scenes where she just straight up ignores Kris, or only talks to Kris to go "be my wing(wo?)man please", and then doesn't even have the decency to stop herself from telling Susie she only ever hung out with Kris because she was forced to.
>>528019810>Kris forces (you) to take hits because he doesn't wanna hurt Susie. You're actually fighting both of them at the same timeCould be kino
>>528019757He's talking about the closet in chapter 2, which is "big enough for a large person", and then identical dialogue for the church closet in chapter 4, which Kris refuses to open even if you ask him to turn the doorknob.
Then at the start of chapter 4, Kris also refuses to open the bathroom door (that Asgore is behind) in Noelle's house despite being allowed to try to open every other door in the house and be told they're locked, or lead outside.
>>528019441Berdlys entire motivation was that hes an attention whore. He thinks Noelle is giving him attention and never refuses him because she likes him so he gladly accepts it.
>>528019810If you got through Susie vs Lancer and thought Susie would kill Kris outside of the Weird Route you're a fucking idiot.
And if you think Kris would let you kill Susie you're even more retarded than that.
>>528019898Because she wants to get with her crush, why is this so hard for you virgins to relate to. She wants to fuck Susie, that's a noble goal.
>>528019870Rudy also stops Toriel from calling Carol his wife. Asgore x Rudy post-game confirmed
>>528019701and let's not forget about the good knight
>>528019870>Noelle is locked out of her home multiple timesThis information to me seems more like that Carol doesn't care about her family to me...
>>528019942Anon he literally has a whole sympathetic backstory where he talks about how he used her academically
https://x.com/turboemmy/status/1935431664412541153
So some of the knights attacks are quite literally undodgeable if you get bad rng right? I'm not crazy for thinking that some patterns are literally unreactable/dodgeable, specifically the ones that split the screen.
The "eyes narrow" attack also seems extremely difficult to no-hit consistently.
>>528019870Rudy is cheating on her with Asgore so she kicked him to the curb
>>528019987old man yaoi fans eating good with deltarune
>>528020049She cares about Dess atleast. She has a schizo corkboard in her room that Asgore checks out while he's talking about how they're "so close" and then clutches his black shard.
>>528019810Anon, we are getting the Kris and Dess boss fight in a later chapter. Hell, the whole Susie and Lancer segments in chapter 1 is a hint to that.
On looks alone, I can see 3 possible knights. I can see it being Carol or Dess, considering the antlers, or Papyrus, considering the body type.
>>528019757*strikes ground and opens dark world into my headcanon*
Chapter 2, when you check the server room in the top left, you get the "A big person can fit inside here" message
Chapter 4, again, after the chapter is done, if you check the door on the top right, you get the same message, AND Kris does not allow anything else to happen beyond you turning the handle. The other time you are not allowed to PROCEED is Noelle's home, Asgore is cleaning the bathroom, you can confirm that when your a heart and travelling through the vents
Asgore can carry Undyne, Asgore is strong as heck, Asgore would have the passcode for the Bunker. It's all Asgore and Kris knows it
>>528017449I think his determination competes with ours. Kris can exist without a soul because he was infused with determination somehow like Flowey was. Usually our determination is more powerful than his, but when it's really important he tries harder to overpower us.
>>528020075If you think that's bait your skin must be incredibly thin. Was it the virgin remark?
>>528019486He only liked Susie because she was a girl gamer. ugh writing that sentence made me vomit in my mouth.
anyway since it was a dream why would Berdly want to hang out with the real Susie?
>>528020114Nope, all avoidable. I've done multiple no hit runs for fun
>>528019739nta but common idea for Rudyknight is that Rudy is dying because of what he's doing
>rudy slowly killing himself to bring back dess>rudy having fought asgore at some point, which is how asgore has a black shard
>>528019951it's a clash for ideals and the fate of the world itself
the outcome would obviously change depending on your route and actions
>>528019870>(You) are welcome here any timeWhat does it meanโฆโฆ
>>528020114>I'm not crazy for thinking that some patterns are literally unreactable/dodgeable, specifically the ones that split the screenYou are crazy. You need to start repositioning for the split screen attack as you are dodging the falling rocks. If you place yourself against the wall opposite to the slash direction you won't get hit.
Maybe there are some undodgeable attacks if you forget to hold breath at the start of the fight.
>>528020213>It's all Asgore and Kris knows itman is toby decided to just make asgore the ''villain'' again i'd be so pissed
>>528020362I'll laugh my ass off.
On the one hand I think Carol being the main villain (or at least the reason why everything went to shit) would be dope as hell but on the other hand would Toby make a character that villainous when everybody else has been decent people put into bad situations
>>528019870*soaks up your theory through straw* The Holidays are Dark World surfing and Titan birthing to find some way to cure Rudy
>>528020260>sword is a bat>lost girl themeWould be a cruel subversion if you troll your readers like that.
>>528014325Gerson was a priest. He just didn't attend his shit son's shit sermons
>>528020220>Using your childhood friend to get your dick wet with a girl he's growing a strong connection with is actually admirable. Oh yeah don't forget to throw shade on him when he's not around and you're alone with her, gotta poison that well before it gets too deep Cool bro
>>528020223>since it was a dream why would Berdly want to hang out with the real Susie?Berdly takes the dream to heart much more than Noelle does. Pretty much immediately he goes from "why would I study with these two RETARDS?!" to "oh actually yeah that'd be cool" and is only stopped by Noelle being late to get home.
He then carries that attitude over if you talk to him in the library.
>>528020349>Maybe there are some undodgeable attacks if you forget to hold breath at the start of the fight.Not him but I never do that anymore and it makes beating Knight that much easier for me.
>>528020114"North wind" and "North-West wind" attacks are extremely forgiving, you just have to read a flavor text to mentally prepare yourself, there's a high change to no-hit them. "Tempest" attack is basicaly RNG, yeah.
(I assume you HoldBreath)
God I can't wait for the new chapters to come out already since I REALLY want to avoid going into theories since it is possible I might be overhyping the future chapters... I know we just got Chapter 3 and 4, but I think my ADHD is making it hard to wait...
>>528020305If Carol doesn't know that (You)'re driving? That she sees Kris as a human SOUL that is to be used up
If Carol does know that (You)'re driving? Hell if I know because I thought I was foiling her plans this whole time
>>528020482>he has never played wingman for his childhood friends to score>they have never done that for himAs Berdly would say, epic fail.
>>528020362He's pivotal, idk if he's on our side or not
>>528020515>Kris sabotaging you, so you fucking die in the sword tunnelfucking dess simp bastard
In a future Deltarune chapter, Sans will get hired as a time cop and eventually gets deployed into Undertale. His job is to keep observing the universe for experimental purposes even when things go south. In the Genocide route, they find out Chara is turning into a multiversal entity that will destroy other universes which is why Sans is allowed to intervene. Sans IS the weakest enemy- in the time cop universe where everyone is granted batshit powers.
>>528020362Not only will Asgore be the villain but his death will be out of your control again.
Does anyone here watch Jerma regularly to be able to say if he's commented on playing Deltarune again? I wonder if he thinks the community is more trouble than it's worth.
>>528019810>only one will liveIf such a fight happened, and only one of them died, I wouldn't put it past the other to actually just go through with suicide after the story was done. Having to kill the other would completely finish destroying what is left of Kris' life, and would shatter Susie's "I've got friends now, I'm finally happy" narrative. And she already had that chair in her room standing ominously in the center.
>>528020362I've been thinking about rather it's possible for Asgore to be the knight or not while I think there COULD be some evidence, it's just really hard for me to believe he would so casually kill Tenna like that. Literally if anything else had happened I could believe it was part of some 5D chess move to do parts of the prophecy to save Dess or something but I just have a hard time believing he'd be so cruel without a damn good reason for it.
>>528020798He said he's waiting for the game to be finished or something
>>528019627You only don't like it because you feel like you're being cucked. Don't worry, that's what Kris feels like too.
>>528020586If my "childhood friend" told me to be his wingman and then let slip out relationship was forced and they don't even know if they enjoyed hanging out with me I'd feel pretty fucking shitty and regret even attempting to help them fuck MY BEST FUCKING FRIEND.
>>528020114It's hard and fast but if you were to watch youtube videos and slow it down, you can see the paths. But fuck that blade hallway attack that's the one that gets me. It's doable, though
>TO SAVE THE WORLDS,
>THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.
The last bit is "betray" isn't it
>>528020798I saw someone say that he wasn't going to do the rest until it was finished but I have zero source on that beyond a post on here
Toriel's a huge cunt it doesn't take much to piss her off. She can't even say Carol's name and makes a scene at Church throwing her juice all over Rudy just for bringing up his own wife. She keeps referencing sin and sinning despite the Church not recognizing any concept of sin. Her two sons are all kinds of fucked up, Kris obviously and even Asriel would go to Church for confession (which the Church doesn't actually do) for bullshit as trivial as actions in a video game. She hooks up with a dude who has been in town for two days, drunk off her ass, and totally unconcerned that her child is still out after dark in the rain when literally the night before she called the cops and stopped Susie from walking home because she found her tires slashed in her own driveway. 24 hours later she doesn't give a shit.
>>528019810>only one will liveMaybe in the weird route, but otherwise no.
>>528020997Tobert here, it actually says "NOELLE NEEDS TO STOP BEING SO FUCKING GAY"
>>528017449> Kris still wants to keep that control and he decides what gets put into his body.For that attitude I'll put an oiled cucumber up his ass.
>>528020997It ends in an ay sound and so does ralsei
hrm.....
>>528020997It's going to be about banishing Angel's Heaven = haven for darkners.
>>528020896I don't want my best friend to get with some thirsty shitass who thinks it's fine to throw me under the bus and do whatever it takes to score. It's called manipulation, I'm not going to pretend it's cool for my friend to get manipulated into taking off their pants because they happen to think their future abuser is hot
>>528020924You put quotes around childhood friend because you dont have any, genuinely sad.
>>528020881Yeah even if he's on some schizo vision quest to save his marriage I don't think he'd KILL YOUR TV or keep going after Berdly gets turned into a popsicle
>Kris watching Dess and Asriel act like a happy couple
>Kris watching Susie fall in love with Noelle
Kris the cuck...
>Becomes more confident
>Upskirts Susie
>Directly invites you over
Weird route is the Suselle route, keep copeing chuds. I bet Noelle doesnt even have the courage to confess in normal route
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>>528020515Same, when it comes to hard hitting enemies, it starts be a "Offense is the best Defense" situation because it's you or them so kill them first
>>528020997susie said "they won't let it happen", which i don't think can be applied to betrayal.
>>528010471nigga's seriously think kris being called they/them is about identity and not just to make self projection of yourself easier (at least that was the original idea)
>>528020798He's waiting on the game to be finished.
>>528021141This was a valid prediction in chapter 2 but lol
>>528021067I can't believe Susie will save the world and her future marriage by using her Susie Breath to turn Noelle into a boy
>>528021174You are the dumbest nigger of them all. There is an explicit diagetic separation between Kris and the player.
>>528020798I hope he plays it soon he'd be a perfect tenna
>>528021032>Kris obviously and even Asriel Just a correction. Kris never went to church to confess. Asriel would confess on Kris' behalf.
>>528020798How do you people manage to watch Jerma without malding constantly, he's woke as fuck
>>528021130It's okay, they can always use the SOUL as a cumrag.
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>>528021280I'm woke outside of trans issues and even then I don't hate trans people
>>528021119Noelle literally says she doesn't feel like it was a genuine friendship to Susie. Why the fuck would I still call my "friend" that after heading them say that?
Do YOU actually have any friends cause this doesn't seem like a very difficult concept to grasp, it's called betrayal, sweetie, you ever hear of it?
>>528020881I don't think Asgore IS a Knight, but he IS creating Dark Worlds and providing escapes for the Knight
Also, whoever is the knight, they are weeping after killing Tenna, you'll notice they didn't go right into lasering Toriel
>>528006703I like to imagine Ralsei as Volition
>>528020049Doesnt mean she doesnt care about Noelle. Its Noelles fault for not having her key
>>528020997>ICE-E FUCKS YOU>TWICE A DAY
>>528020997I think it could be "go away" or maybe "slay" (or "slain," which is more of a slant rhyme.) Betray is a good guess too though.
So noelle will never be confronted to her trying to kill berdly?
I hope berdly wakes up in the aborted weird route and she can finally redeem herself trying to stop the player.
>>528021280Jerma is a poisoned well at this point but it doesn't stop him from being funny.
>>528021260whatever you say nigga
>>528021280>>528021402I'm unwoke and hate trans people but I don't let it get in the way of enjoying stuff.
>>528021512>a poisoned wellAnd you don't think you're in a cult
>>528009293Uh. If you're interested, sure. I've tried to keep them short.
The first one was silly and maybe a bit boring, but I thought it was cute.
>Papyrus, after losing his phone in a large shopping mall, attempts to use a set of payphones>he puts a quarter in the slot, hears a dial tone, dials the number, but whoever answers isn't the person he's trying to reach>the mystery person on the other end reads aloud a message from a fortune cookie, laughs, and hangs up>Papyrus, growing progressively angrier, tries each payphone twice, and he only stops when the person on the other end blows a raspberry at him>Papyrus smashes open the handset, sees a monster living inside it, and demands his quarters backThe other one was embarrassing self-shippy nonsense. I'm warning you now.
>I don't like the way my butt looks in my new pajamas>Papyrus cheerfully declares "SOMETIMES CUPCAKES ARE BETTER THAN CAKE!">winks at me like he's said the smoothest line in the universe>immediately grows flustered and defensive when I laugh and ask what the hell that means>he starts rambling about artisanal cupcakes, cinnamon buns, cake pops, mixing himself up as I continue to laugh>I ask him if he thinks I have a mini muffin ass>he scoffs and says "OF COURSE NOT!! YOU'D FILL A PIE PAN PER CHEEK, EASILY!!">we get into a big, clumsy scuffle>wake up when he bites me
>>528006703LANCER DOESNโT FUCKING CARE
>>528020997>TO SILENCE SUSIE FOREVER DURING FESTIVAL DAYTOOOOOOOOOBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>528021174>>528021530Did you even play the game?
>>528021512>a poisoned wellAsk me how I know you're single
>>528021567Nah the cult were the ones who sent him dozens and dozens of messages and bits donations every day telling him how they almost killed themselves and how important he is to their continued survival and then continually pressured him into saying "trans rights!" on stream constantly.
The same cult that tried to do the same thing to Vinny until he told them to fuck off and they went absolutely ballistic.
>>528021130>sans fucked their mom>rudy fucked their dad>dess fucked their brother>noelle fucked their best friend>the soul forced them to fuck ralsei>berdley is fucking themngl if it wasn't for the dark world existing to force kris to become friends with suseo and ralseo i wouldn't be surprised them jump headfirst from the rooftop to the pavement
>>528021248How many prophecies did these new chapters heckin kill?!?! Krisknighters, he might still be the Knight, trust
>>528021697No I just watched jerma/vinesauce/some other overrated person play it
>>528021732>my streamer friends share my values! T-They have to!Extremely parasocial post
>>528020482But theyre not friends.
>>528021861>Group consistently pushes their values into chat and shares values constantly with streamer and tries to get them to do something>"ackhually you're the parasocial one"Are you retarded?
>>528021032If Toriel hates Carol, Carol must be in the right
>>528021280I'm actually a MAGA commie laroucheite
>>528021032Welcome to the real world, Anon.
>>528018559Is there any canon (not just horny) text that indicates that dess was violent with Kris?
>>528022042>>528021732Literally schizophrenia
>>528022521No. It's more likely that they both were a bad influence on each other. Each stunt more and more reckless.
>>528022521This is what people latch onto:
> * L-like when you told me ICE-E was real and eats kids...> * So Dess smacked you with a wiffle bat 'til you stopped lying.I don't think there's anything worse
>>528019967>virgins can't relate to be desperate and creepy around their crushThis sorry excuse of a bait is... Just depressing. I actually feel sorry for you... The same way when you see the neighbour's inbred cat ran over... You know it was a retarded and miserable animal, but you can't help but to pity it...
>>528022521The wiffle bat and skates in Dess' room have examine dialogues that say looking at them makes your head hurt
One of the Knight's in-fight text boxes (assuming it is in fact Dess) also says "you feel something hovering just behind your head", which is the kind of paranoia response you'd get hanging around someone who could and would just smack you with shit
>>528008365they wouldn't have been knocked towards Kris if they'd been backstabbed
>>528021596Not that anon, but
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uh quick question for the knowers is the groovy mailbox real i put a brain into it
chapter 5 leak (real) (2026)
>>528027819Broke
>Asgore has a black shard because he's trying to find DessWoke
>Asgore has a black shard because he's a super boss in the later chapters just like the rest of them.