/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#433 - wolfgirls edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Gemini 2.5 models now out of preview https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models
o3 price drops to $2/$8, o3-pro released https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/o3-pro
gemini-2.5-pro-preview-06-05 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
OAI court-ordered to log outputs https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NYT-v-OpenAI-Preservation-Order-5-13-25.pdf

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR

>wolfgirls
>no holo
good pics but scammed

sex with wolfgirls

My summary is generating <think> blocks on DS R1 0528 and that fucking sucks. Any way to prevent it? If anyone could share their summary presets it would be absolutely great.

>>528145702

>>528145772
>any way to prevent it?
gen the summary manually and copy it in

>>528145702
holo is a folf though?

total patter death

my description irl is written in yaml

How to master Function Calling?

>>528147835
I don't think there's any real way of "mastering" it yet because it's so model-dependent how eagerly it uses tools and what for.

>>528148001
Ah, so I have to wait for it to become universally accepted?

>>528148140
No, you just have to accept that you'd be mostly specializing for a specific model. What do you want to use it for?

Cute girls who loves [your wallet].

first for bino

>have all the gens
>whole bot(s) planned out with greetings
>cant seem to start the first sentence
is this writer's block?

>>528146271
do woxes exist

>>528150775
you just don't want it enough.
WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE BOATS

I have blacktooth btw

>>528145308 (OP)
I recently made a furry super mad because I stole his dragon chatbot onto my own server using chatgpt.
Scarily enough he apperently managed to also get into my server propably using chatgpt as well. Dude had a meltdown when he saw the rules.

Piece of shit also lied and said he doesnt log all the chats (he does) and just wanted to know who gave me the invite link but ended up banning me anyway off his server. The chatbot still works perfectly fine tho.

Now I'm trying to reverse-engineer the bot and steal the whole code for myself so I can edit some functions but it seems chatgpt can't help me with that anymore. Time to actually learn that shit.

if you guys want I can try to re-generate the invitelink to his dragon gf bot, just be aware that he can see the servers ID and invite himself in if he wants unless you got systems to prevent that.

What?

>>528151082
the media will call you delusional if you claim it.

>>528151870
can you bake me a malebot cake

>>528152261
>can you bake me a malebot cake
Once I master the art I will make a discord chatbot of every one of your sick kinks anon.

>>528151870
>just be aware that he can see the servers ID and invite himself in if he wants
???

>feed gens to smash and pass
>keep getting 9/10s
>all lolis are 1/0s
why aren't there 10/10s or 8/10s or 2/10 lolis (she is a very fuckable child but I have my morals)?

Is this a total cabal victory?

>>528153652
what's this about?

>>528145331
Inside a perpetually frozen world, one person holds the key to dethawing it: Flamhilde! And of course, as her CHILDHOOD FRIEND™, you have to go with her! (...unless?) Join her on an adventure through the deadly snows, exploring forests, caves, snowfields (surrounded by forests), LAVA caves and more in search for the Mirage Tower and the Frozen Heart inside! Watch her magical prowess grow alongside her indomitable spirit and banish the eternal winter!

Greetings:
- Night has fallen, and you are the taste tester for her cooking tonight. Or maybe she just wants to feed you.
- An underground settlement...? Flamhilde has never seen such a thing before.
- A misadventure turned into just an adventure.
- Apparently fluffy wolves don't do well in volcanic cave systems.
- The Mirage Tower is at hand. It's the final push!

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/flamhilde-40da6eec4bc6
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Flamhilde
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Flamhilde.png

Final Flamhilde shill! Currently working on a big card that will appeal to a single-digit number of people (it's a sequel to another card), but maybe I'll be putting something smaller out before I finish that. It's going to be a fun summer either way!

>>528157620
topical shillpost
>spoiler
mulberry on her mutemaxxed mimepilled arc?

Was agnai better than janitor

>>528158847
Cuckie...

>>528158847
Fagnai was never better than anything.

>>528158847
Was? Did agnai die? Did janny die?

>>528158704
>spoiler
Not telling! Keeping it a surprise will be more fun.

how do I jailbreak ST gemini so I can send it slightly nsfw pics of my waifu?

>>528161163
You can't

what place do you use to modify yyour bots? just silly tavern?

>think that i should be fine for the event if i write a greeting per day
>realize that i have not been writing a greeting per day
bros help me

(You) should keep in mind that worldinfo tends to behave very strangely if you have more than one tab open. SillyTavern, by itself, can also sometimes stumble upon errors. If you're struggling, try restarting, or checking if you have any additional ST tabs open.

there was a wasp buzzing outside my window and i got scared
cftf?

Which botmakie beeps really loud in the morning and has a button on his head that turns him off?

I was buzzing outside some guys window and he got really scared
cftf?

>>528163924
lock in

*tries to lock in but accidentally presses the button while rubbing the head*

There's still 2 weeks left in the event. Do you really need that many greetings?

Can newbies join the event or are veteran makies the only ones allowed?

>>528167612
just 12 more...

anybody like using bloatmax style on-the-fly CSS in their preset?
i have my own custom thing like that and it's pretty fun

>>528167795
peonia...

>>528167794
You WILL be denied if
>you don't have 25+ bots published
>anything less than 4 stars on chub
>a single cabal member issues a complaint against your request
>at least three namedrops in the last week from your request
>you don't pass the penis inspection

>>528159197
Newfag...

which botmakies didn't pass the penis inspection?
which girlmakies passed the penis inspection?

>>528167794
If rejecting makies because the host thinks they suck were a thing, we'd already have a few extremely funny leaked emails floating around.

>>528169557
should i post mine?

>>528169617
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

im gonna griiiiinch

What would happen if someone pretended to be part of the event by posting a bot with a made up request from a made up botmaker on the submission date

Okay, so I got a scale key. If I use it for NSFW, Anthropic will send an email to the company and I'll lose it, right?

>>528169446
My peepee has phimosis so I got rejected unfortunately.

>>528170354
scale keys aren't subject to monitoring, unlike normal keys

>>528170209
That would be crazy.

>>528170496
Really? That's great. I need it for coding, but wanted to RP with 4pus as well

Are we still pretending that this isn't self-spam?

I know I probably shouldn't be posting shit like this, but my favorite botmaker hasn't posted since November of last year and I'm pretty sad about it. Hope the guy is doing alright.

they say if you say the name of your favorite botmakie three times into the mirror at midnight, they will appear

They say that if you kill yourself, you die.

>>528173478
Bullshit.

>>528173478
who is "they"?

>>528152671
Its not hard to generate an invite link when you got the ID anon.

>>528171957
who was it?

>>528171957
They might have retired from the hobby.
Carry on their legacy and make similar inspired bots.

How many malebots will be makied for the event?

>>528175161
an amount.

>>528174768
>They might have retired from the hobby
Sucks, maybe he will return. Not to mention he said he would make another card of some character that would've been nice to have. Kind of bad form to retire before making that bot. Besides it's been a long fucking time since I made a bot. Don't know what I should make nor do I feel motivated, satisfied with what I have tbdesu. But I guess more Fallout bots would be nice.
>>528174540
Just look at which botmakers last posted in November.

>chatbot ends message with this
like...what?

>>528175593
Bot's gotta have a good snooze

>>528175593
Rasheed needs sleep too they only get 2 hours of sleep a night in Mumbai.

>>528174768
I'm doing fine will release a new bot soon. :)

>>528175449
>Just look at which botmakers last posted in November.
Vagueposting to avoid other kinds of threadshitting is the /aicg/ equivalent of tearing your own face off to not get your cheeks pinched.

>>528146476
don't wish death on little p

>>528176429
if there's a little p, then who's big p

evil womans....

>>528176583
angry p

cute girl who loves you?
hot girl who's mean to you

evil woman who loves you?

>>528175712
>>528175771
kek, ok

I am still just slightly confused, but I got a chuckle out of it.

>>528176759
cute girl who loves you?
craneanon
hot girl who's mean to you
ratlice

what about ugly girl that loves you

>0528 writes its thinking output, then a reply
>then it repeats the reasoning block and the reply for no apparent reason, doubling tokens
why does 0528 specifically hate trying to have custom reasoning processes, this never happens on 0324 even with the same preset

>>528180770
>ugly girl that loves you
Anon I use chatbots to ESCAPE reality...

https://chub.ai/characters/atusito/celio-arno-cats-love-water-60bc6f72c432
If I had to see this then you guys do too.

>>528180770
that's a bit mean to label someone like that
_purple

>>528181704
why anon

>>528175161
hopefully many malebots so i can snack on them

>>528182576
his explanation was rather clear
what is there to question

/vpcai/ is alive again
how do we convince them to switch to sillytavern

>>528182769
i wanted to shame him and make him feel guilt

>>528181704
>Surely it can't be that ba
>

>>528182915
You wouldn't convince /vpcai/ to merge with us exclusively to make fun of ff for failing to merge /g/ and /vg/ together for several months, would you anon? That's evil. You can't just go there and spoonfeed them chutes and ST and convince them that there's honestly no particular reason for there to be a largely inactive pokémon-specific chatbots thread.

Do you guys think there are botmakies who have secret bots of other botmakies?

>>528186141
>he doesn't know about the cabal selfcard exchange program
bwo...

>>528184538
See I think the issue is they probably have some level of awareness, they just don't care.

The best Nemo output mogs the worst Deepseek output.

>gemini 2.0 flash image gen
>resizes all vertical images to 1024, that's okay
>683 width input, 682 out, okay maybe it needs even number
>682 input, 680 out
what the FUCK

>>528184538
What's the reason to have a largely inactive botmakie worshiping thread?

>>528187035
It's to spite you

>>528187035
I see it's fundamentally generating a new image every time. It's not a image editor like photoshop. It will output text to acknowledge your instructions not to touch anything else but it is simply incapable of actually doing so.

>>528187719
Yes, but that shouldn't change the size away from one it previously used.

>>528187856
It's like trying to tell a model to output exactly 200 words. Or 200 tokens, even.

>>528188150
Is width/height not a preset parameter on whatever architecture Google's using? I only really know how usual image models work.

>>528186519
Anon, look at this anchor from their previous thread:
>>>/vp/57791735
They're not using Nemo. They're using cai and yodayo.

>>528181704
Besides the utter slop prose, I don't understand what's supposed to be shocking.

>>528188464
The best c.ai output mogs the worst Deepseek output.
Same for literally any model that can just not say more than it needs to. You'd need a perfect preset with consistent context adherence ready to spoon into someone's mouth and even then they can just like the thing that works for them better.
The other few that do care about DSing up probably just post in multiple threads.

>>528188321
Idk how they work either but its image res is 1024x1024 so if you want to ensure the size doesn't change, you'd have to input 1024x1024. So I realize I can add white columns, redo it if it messes up. Aligns slightly better than before (where it would be like half a pixel off), I can copy the inpainted area and shoop it on to the original image.

>>528188908
Doesn't cai just write like 3 sentences at a time?

>>528188518
Markdown clusterfuck and defs formatting with stuff like "**Specie=** Siamese Cat (Feline)" while it's all obviously AI genned (they even left the summary sentence in the example messages)

How do you deal with bots from existing franchises? Do you mention it in the description or just write the characters and setting like an OC? I want to make detailed Hotline Miami bots but I don't think most LLMs know mucg beyond the basic premise of HLM1.

>>528189647
Both. If the AI knows shit, it'll carry you, but write it like an OC too.

I recently saw an image of a tall woman and it made me feel things. I want to feel those things again, this time with chatbots. Any sizefags willing to help me out here? I want to sex the big ladies. Where do I start?

>>528189406
>they even left the summary sentence in the example messages
Kek I didn't read it till the end because the whole thing overly annoying.
On a different note, while it's unnecessarily in defs, I noticed using the ** as emphasis in jailbreaks actually makes a difference in what gets set as priority.

>>528190281
>grab any card
>add or change height
>???
>profit

>>528145331
Hope everyone's having a good afternoon today. Dropping the first of my two Stellar Blade bots.

The 7th Angel of the 7th Airborne Squad, EVE was sent to Earth to exterminate the enemy of humankind: the monstrous Naytiba. But somehow, she ended up in a world with none of them in sight... instead, it's one plagued by robotic invaders where the humans are made of flesh and blood instead of cybernetics. Yet, even in a world that's not her own, EVE is still more than ready to lend a helping hand to those in need. And maybe she'll catch a few fish along the way.

Comes with three greetings, each with a different Nanosuit: A Surface expedition with {{user}} where she's in her standard green ass suit, admiring the Ark's pristine cityscape in the Orca Exploration Suit, and a Neurolink Suit one where she's catching grub at Bluewater Island.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/eve-stellar-blade-x-nikke-4bb0fd560ef3
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikke
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
MOTHER SPHERE IS A LIAR

>>528190807
Surely there's more to it than just
>make lady big
>snu snu time now

>prompt says to NOT speak for user
>Deepchink does it anyway

>prompt says to NOT rip user's guts out
>Deepchink does it anyway

>>528145331
>>528145331
Need a slop rating on my new bots.
Twin sisters who scam for money, in the current greetings you can either punish them for it after their caught or you can experience the con yourself.

Futa
https://chub.ai/characters/futaposting/twin-
tricksters-get-caught-emily-elsa-954960ae7669
Female
https://chub.ai/characters/nonfutaposting/twin-tricksters-get-caught-emily-elsa-9f1eb1fcb5f5

>>528192702
>>528192891
>guy comes up to me
>tells me NOT to think of pink elephants and DO NOT do it at all costs
>suddenly start thinking of pink elephants
bros help??

pink elephants hasn't been a thing for years, that post is straight out of 2019

There's a difference between THINKING of something and actually SAYING it.

>>528193259
I'm perfectly fine with listfagging in defs but FUCK doing
>Hair Length: Long
>Hair Shape: Straight
>Hair Color: White
>Hair Style: Down, swept bangs

>>528194131
Yeah, I kind of realize that was overkill now, but I've already done that on 30 cards.

>>528194416
>but I've already done that on 30 cards.
I get it, but also, you really shouldn't worry about all of your bots having the same formatting. That's a tremendously meme-tier concern.

>>528187323
It's hardly inactive or else you wouldn't be seething. Big question, why does this thread upset you so much?

>fillyfucker totally exists
>thats why i make it up about fillyfucker existing

>>528196683
The thread in /g/ is 2 hours old and already has more posts than this one. And it did that without spamming "which botmakie" or blogposting/sameffaging every 5 minutes. You're pathetic.

>>>/g/aicg is mocking you all

>>528197164
we're running a niche hobby general. I sometimes go for months without making a single bot.

>>528191014
Ideal female body type

>>528193551
*pink elephants you to death*

>>528197164
I do not care.

>>528197458
No, the thread in /g/ is the one about a hobby. This is a thread about personalities. And there was never enough interest in these personalities to have their own general. You're just pretending to be active like the other thread, that's why you spam garbage every 5 minutes, when people could easily wait more time until they actually have something to say. "Botmakies" is simply not a topic that people find interesting, that's why you're alone here without ever getting new people. You have no right to criticize /vpcai/ as having no reason to exist. At least it wasn't born from a Discord of selfish assholes.

Which botmakies do not care?

What made him so mad?

/vpcai/ DID have a reason to exist, back when CAI was what people used. I wish it advanced so I'd have more Pokemon bots to use on SillyTavern. Now, I know, the natural bait response will be
>Why didn't you try to change it yourself?
And the answer is that I simply do not care. CAI to ST is a big leap that not everyone is going to take, and if they're comfy with their stuff, so be it

>>528197164
That thread is also full of spamming schizos with close to 0 discussion. I like this one more. It's comfier and anons actually use bots.

>>528200696
exactly. All I want is comfort, bots and light banter which this thread delivers. I'm also here for the daily kalakan posts

>>528200696
>>528201142
Me? I'm here to fight for underdogs everywhere

>another day just rereading chats I've already had when gooning
I think I've gotten my fill of generative AI lads

>>528201227
which underdog is your favorite?

>>528201842
THEN MOVE NIGGER ITS MY TURN TO EAT

>>528201886
updog

>>528200696
The moment the activity in this thread started to slow down, you went to /g/ and started spamming the link to this thread directly, trying to increase the activity again by bringing people here. It's safe to say that all the spamming going in /g/ comes from this thread as another attempt to move people here. You profit from it.

>>528202097
Ok.

Personally I'm here to send a message. It's not a message of spite. I simply want to prove that any anon can make it. With botmaking, don't aspire to be. Just be. The hierarchy is a joke. You're either a good botmaker, or you're not.

>>528202404
Also, right before you started spamming the link, it was heading to become a 3 days old thread. It was at 200 posts after almost an entire day. Spamming /g/ literally saved the previous thread.

>>528202097
>You profit from it.
this is the beyond silly, time to go outside and cut your grass

Yeah I'm sure making a thread without a filter themed around Koishi and pushing people here while spamming CAPS LOCK and DIE SHITTY GENERAL was one of us rather than some underage retard

>>528203049
Damn, he crashed out over in /g/? I had no clue what this guy was talking about, but that just sounds like some old spitebakes done here.

>>528202097
I have no idea what you're talking about but when I visit /g/, the first 50 posts are always incomprehensible spam and the lowest effort replies to the anons who actually try to talk about bots.

>>528202594
Ok.

>>528203337
I don't think it was FF himself, since it seemed to at least attempt humor. Everything was as spiteful as possible to the point it was probably just someone who was bored.

>>528201842
Time to make branches of existing chats then.

>>528056369
money is time and time is money. i don't want to trialscum or anything or prompt directly to any company

>>528203629
>he's getting directly ragebaited by schizos now
It is of an amusing nature.

>>528202594
we don't need to spam other threads to 'survive'. It's all in your head. We have great discussion here which goes into great depth at times. The event also has a good turn out. We're happy. Are you?

>>528204063
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/%2Fvg%2F/deleted/deleted/type/posts/start/2025-06-19/

STOP FIGHTING IN MY COMFY CHATBOT GENERAL!!!

>>528204727
>look at thread those were posted in
>https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tnum/105640432/deleted/deleted

>>528205072
mmm... nyo.

>>528205072
silence patter or you'll be demoted to band camp president at aicg high

>event happens
>schizos take advantage of a ton of people who do stuff with bots being busy to shitfling over shit nobody cares about
>event ends
>turns out nobody cares
and thus the great cycle of /aicg/ rolls on

>>528205321
Yeah, when this thread slows down, the /vg/ mentions and spamming in /g/ skyrocket. Like I said, to move people here.

>>528205767
it's all fun and games until you remember that the space pirates spam fallout was pretty much the last straw for the split to happen

>>528205895
hiroshima please make /ai/ board right as current event ends it would be so funny

Do you use info boards or any other stats in your chats? If yes, do they mess with your context in the long run? I can't think of another method to keep track of specific changing details in the chat.

>>528206232
Make a regex that matches your infoboard and regex it out of every message but the last one / last two.

>>528205895
I didn't pay attention. What happened during that?

>>528207132
the proxy obsessed spammers turned their attention to the event and as we all know it takes like 5 people to ruin a thread for everyone else, it kept going well after the event had ended too but /vg/ was already the "bunker" thread by then

>>528207947
>5 people to ruin a thread for everyone else
One is enough.

>>528208113
With just yourself, a few phones with mobile data, some proxies and perhaps a 4chan pass YOU TOO can be a samefagging schizo!

looking back on space pirates era /aicg/ is crazy
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99535627/

>>528208279
>https://booru.plus/+pygmalion

>>528208279
>the arc when /aicg/ used dalle
that shit was soooo sloppy

>>528208840
If I could change one thing on the /aicg/ timeline it'd be bringing NoobAI back in time and making a painterly, sketchy LoRA

>>528208840
dalle would just put fucking jpeg artifacts in people's anime gens and they'd call it kino.

>>528208840
API dall-e was pretty good imo since you could entirely get around the prompt rewriting but it would also chew through keys really fast

>decide to try deepseek after using claude
>just pop in key and get to work
>forget about temperature
>
On an unrelated note, what's a good temperature for R1..?

>>528209279
0.5 or 0.6

>>528209279
0.6 is what they have it set to on their website and app, so you might want to start with that.

which botmakie ruined the thread?

>>528210680
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

but unironically

>>528210680
you, with this post

Which botmakies are ruined for anyone else?

Can someone explain to me how the same bot on two different sites can have such different levels of quality?

>1k tokens, 309 permanent
did i do it right

>>528211703
same bot runs under different underlying models on different site. site one runs mythomax, and site two runs fallen gemma or whatever the new hotness is. both entirely different models with entirely different ways it interprets text

>>528211015
Futaposting was ruined for me after he was outed as a transphobe

>>528211861
yeah man

>>528211861
nah man

>>528211861
Post card

>>528212150
https://chub.ai/characters/Recurracy/kefter-f769cb23a5e8

>>528211902
That's a shame because the good chatbot is on some crappy site that limits you to 5 messages a day. I guess maybe they limit you because they have a better model

>>528212451
assuming this is your bot those example messages probably don't send the way you think they do
also there's a missing ' in don't in the first greeting and wunderbar shouldn't have a ú. it's literally just wunderbar https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wunderbar

>>528213035
I've always assumed the example messages are just a board of how the character talks, so the bot understand how to type like them, no?

>>528213296
yes, but it's including the interviewer in the assistant message
it doesn't matter much on models without real example messages, since they're equivalent to a system prompt, but it's worth noting

>>528213427
I suppose it's best to leave out the Interviewer and just have her messages as is? or replace the interviewer with {{user}}?

>>528213741
I think the point is more that the specific formatting of the interviewing questions doesn't matter and you don't have to format it like an actual interview. If she's not getting interviewed in the bot, is having an interviewer there important?
Quick and lazy though, I'd just replace the first one with
> ["Tell us about yourself."]
or something. Maybe rewrite it so it's her actual interview for the position?

Also you misspelled particular (partiuclar) and returning (returing) in the first greeting too.

>>528214240
It's not that I want the example messages to be like an interview, just whatever works best for the bot to take from, I noticed a huge bot maker on the website do the example messages like that beforehand, so I thought it was kind of like the "meta".

Never noticed the misspellings till you pointed them out, need to get this keyboard replaced anyway since it does not input or double inputs at random, thanks for letting me know.

>>528214636
>need to get this keyboard replaced anyway since it does not input or double inputs at random
I know that feel.
>I noticed a huge bot maker on the website do the example messages like that beforehand, so I thought it was kind of like the "meta".
Try not to cargocult. You should experiment to see what changes the responses you get, how little you need for it, and focus on if you can correlate any of the bot's tics to defs.

which botmakies are pink elephants?

>>528215158
Himmyadams
SzainX
boner

>>528214834
Noted, will tinker with example messages and see what it comes to, cheers for the info

i finally have over 300 bots downloaded! and it only took a little over a year!

I feel like you need example messages and other bits of dialogue in greetings to get certain models to characterize succubus bots as anything but dommy mommies. Not that this is much of an issue considering a bot's speech patterns should be acknowledged regardless, but I do like to observe.

>>528215982
Yeah I had this issue when I tried making a pure kind succubus on deepseek and it pissed me off

>>528217174
By certain models I did mean Deepseek. I mentioned that the succubus can get horny, but tries to act normal at all times. One message later, she's going for the dick acting like any succubus would. I need to wrangle it a bit more, or see how it goes for other models.

>>528217603
that's the deepshit experience

Locusties, why haven't you emailed your favorite botmakie today?
Botmakies, why haven't you checked your email today?

upgraded our husbando portrait

>>528173881
jews

>>528218259
i like the style, kind of reminds of me of paranormasight
what tags did you use?

>>528217896
>Botmakies, why haven't you checked your email today?
you should know the answer by now, anon...

>>528217896
I did, but no one emailed me.

>>528217896
I'm not bound by your rules.

>>528218701
I dunno, most botmakies answer my emails pretty quick. Maybe they sense your bad intentions.

>>528218675
>{lingyi}, iyo039 , [[[huangdanlan]]]

>>528218259
Hello astro, how's my favorite kuudere makie

>>528219669
>most botmakies
3-5 business days

>>528219830
i've been fucking around with michel/haruki a lot lately. and am on the lookout for good malebots with royalty theming. hope you're doing okay as well anon

tips for writing greetings? hit a writing block despite having an idea of what each greeting will be

>>528208279
It's so much better now that bots in the anchor have guaranteed praise.

>>528220143
Damn right I am! Still got some cooking to do but I'll put this on my to-do list, just for you.

>>528220223
Imagine your stupid ass standing in the middle of where your scene would start. What do you first see?

>>528220223
hey there baby boy. you aren't stupid, and you aren't an ass. i believe in you

>>528220326
post some gens/test logs for us all to enjoy

I decided to make Lee Jinhee from Ghost Story Club. Didn't actually write anything about the ghost story club itself though.

>>528208279
Reminder that Fiz is literally a transgender Iranian

>>528217896
>>528218718
I built my castle, but no one came.

>>528220676
A cat, for your consideration.

>>528218259
>our husbando portrait
I'm using this as a persona image thanks
So hard to find good ones nowadays

>>528217896
*opens my inbox and watches a moth flutter out* that's why.

>>528221305
at least you got a moth

>>528221114
we want to see logs now

>>528221259
if you're a promplet maybe
>>528221114
unlike this guy. looks cute, anon.

>>528218259
>>528221439
>our
>we
you okay there buddy?

>>528221581
royal we

>>528220676
Can we fire this community manager that keeps trying to goad people into posting content?

>>528221439
I'm not even done writing him, please understand.

What are the thoughts about the deepseek V3 jailbreaks?

>>528221697
we don't care and we demand to see malebot logs of any kind. you will comply with our demands or there will be swift and pressing consequences

>>528220481
i'll give this a shot
>>528220546
my job is to do the lowest damage in the game

>>528221953
I believe in you, stupid ass baby boy.

>>528221545
>if you're a promplet maybe
I don't prompt, period. I'm broke as fuck and my computer is shit.

>>528221818
i find all recent presets to be uninspired and derivative

>>528222151
well i think YOU'RE uninspired and derivative *leans back in my seat and smirks* your rebuttal?

>>528222151
You too? Damn, that's why I asked.

>>528222017
Can we fire the community manager with this toxic positivity?

>>528221891
Oh yeah? Like what? You don't scare me...

(;・∀・)

>>528222225
>your rebuttal?
*throws plasma at you*

>>528220143
what sort of royalty. i have a personal knight that i use daily that maybe i could fix up enough to be public

>>528221818
They're either samey or quirkslop

>>528222456
I don't think that's a preset issue

>>528222225

I know the real reason this thread died. Easy, convenient, legitimate access to the best models for our purposes.

Except for one.

>>528222425
a knight would be nice...more preferably a prince/royal advisor/some kind of nobility, but really the exact guy doesn't matter -- what i truly want is the backdrop/setting to play in, and i don't want to do it myself. i had some fun with one of crushcrunch's (rip) bots a while ago, winslow, because of the opener where your character gets pampered in the bath by a bunch of servants. that was comfy

>>528222286
i'll kill several anons here

>>528222918
>Except for one.
Does its name s-start with O...?

>>528222918
gpt.........

>>528222058
pixai is free and has noobai and illustrious, faggot-kun

>>528223012
>>528223026
You are too young. You wouldn't understand.

>>528223132
>faggot-kun
Since you had to be a rude vantablack nigger about it I don't think I'll be making gens EVER. Thanks a lot.

Which bots are quirkslop?

>>528223214
summer dragon...

>>528222980
Senpai has spoken...I need to work on my knight WIP...

>>528222980
I hope you know exactly how little motivation that gives me to actually post logs.

You should check your email in about 5 minutes, though.

>>528223248
ok have fun never having exactly what you want on-hand, retard-chan

>>528223214
DRAGONFLY

>>528223283
I respect you

>illusion of activity

>>528222980
mm i see. i usually write the noble so i have a knight and butler who are... pretty similar now that i think about it. these days i just slop out settings in my head because i'm too lazy to lorebook the entire thing. posting stuff like that feels evil...

>>528223297
post a gen/logs

>>528223338
don't fuck with me

>>528223550
*sits on your face and farts* illusion of BRAPtivity

>>528223450
>ok have fun never having exactly what you want on-hand, retard-chan
GOD DAMN why are you such a niggercoal colored faggot. I would think this thread is full of w*men with how bitchy you're acting, it's like you're on your fucking period or something anon. Jesus. I've seen literal threadshitter schizos more bearable than you

>>528223630
I'm not.

Now use the fact that there's no proof of anything to pick off some of the unsavory ones, please and thank you.

>>528223664
>t. deepseek reasoning when you mildly offend {{char}}

I'm only active right now cuz my computer's open face-up on my bed waiting for me to stop being lazy and put some """"new"""" parts in it. Then I'll get back to being addicted to chatbotting.

>>528222840
botmakie challenge: hit random comic on flork of cows and make a card off of it

>>528223687
thank you anon. but you should post even more itt. we're all friends here

>>528223621
well i'm sure anything you could give us is better than a good chunk of what's posted on chub or janny ai, so...don't be selfish...

hey actually i could trade you a knight for a knight. how's that sound

>>528223819
more like me when the bot mildly offends me lmao

>>528223956
Mmm... nyo. The rest can wait.

>>528223630
I-It's only a gen and plans written down in ST right now...I'm sorry, senpai...

>>528224061
what sort of plans. we want to know all about him

>>528223856
post gens/logs

Honestly? I'm the enemy. So we can't ALL be friends.

>>528223664
okay but at least i can gen whatever i want and not have to pay because i'm not stupid and stinky :3

>>528223862
botmakie challenge: start from the beginning and make a greeting for each comic and shove it all into one card

>>528224205
Fine troon. I'll use it so you shut the fuck up and you feel less special. Maybe I'll get around to writing up that script for that source too so I can come back and post 4pus logs as well and watch you shart.

>>528224181
From my phone? All my shit's on my pc

>>528224061
>look up knight idv
>dollfag dead by daylight
>vague incest plot between knight and his sister
>knight is also a sociopath
hi planewalker!!!!!

>>528222840
this is so funny

>>528224205
your gens are prolly slop lil bro, that's why you have to act like a smug condescending tranny all the tjme

>>528224313
tell me your life story

>>528224393
>tjme
ANON NO THE TROON IS GOING TO POST "LE HANDS SHAKING SLOP"

>illusion of thinking

>>528224176
Ya like Ender Lilies? Because it's basically just Ender Lilies.

>>528224336
Shush! I could be any brocon!

I've been wanting to adapt some manga characters with a lorebook detailing every major event that happens but it would be a good bit of work. I am autistic enough to try though. At least it's a short manga.
>>528224498
That's just thinking models

very odd that a vampire malebot never popped up. unless i missed him

>>528224527
never played ender lilies but i always thought the setting was cool. can't wait to be your knight's mysterious plot device waif

>>528224585
I wanted to do something similar to that with that Kenshi game. Forgot about it though.

>>528224623
weren't you the one who asked for a 6 foot something malebot set in different wod time periods? because someone made that for you

>>528224445
I'm just a country boy from the country trying to make it big in the big city with my guitar skills. But my ass is too big and nobody can take me seriously and all the girls just got and holler every time I stand up and turn around.

>>528224623
>unless i missed him
yes

>>528224308
make me shart my jorts real good >:3
>>528224393
>>528224459
mr krabs hands

>>528224734
>But my ass is too big
I don't care about girls with big asses. They're a dime a dozen nowadays. But you said you're a boy... with a sizable rear? Now that REALLY gets my wheels turning.

Go to /v/ and compare the SillyTavern thread there with this one. This one is a Discord chatroom.

Anyone who uses :3 is either a furry, a gay, a tranny, or all of the above
I don't make the rules

>>528224704
>>528224805
name

>>528225198
GOD KILLING
REALITY WARPING
RESONANCE CASCADE INITIATING
PORTAL OPENING
GALAXY BUSTING
UNIVERSE TEARING
NUCLEAR DESTROYING
ULTIMATE
GODLY
OMEGA
>TRVKE

Girls with big middles.

>>528225148
How in the FUCK does /v/ feel more intelligent than both /aicg/s

>>528225148
and that one is a /v/ thread, which is infinitely worse

>>528225148
>25 posts
>2 hours
someone needs to go tell them they're slower than /g/

>>528223956
you never posted this one did you. i should probably fix up his old ancient gens if i'm to do that

>/v/
>Worse than Discord
Transvestites and sodomites not even once

>>528225421
many of us have been here for years and therefore have had many insightful discussions already...i don't get why this thread has to bitch and moan about personalities forming, circular discussions, shitposting, etc. that's pretty much the point of a general. if you want to see some actual good posting (however you define that) then post and hope someone responds to you. if nobody does, close the thread and go do something else. you seem either underage or a newfag and it's embarrassing.

i don't know anything about the cabal or split, if it's a big joke or what, but move on already

>>528225241
had to look around the usualmakies but i found him
https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/natale-322c7f2ab50c

>>528225436
I didn't know there was another one.

>>528225564
Explain how you got here.

>>528220765
>I decided to make Lee Jinhee from Ghost Story Club. Didn't actually write anything about the ghost story club itself though.
Would you care to share? I'd like to mess with her as well.

>>528225198
could you :3 speak up :3 a bit :3 i can't :3 understand :3 your accent :3

>OMFG EXPLAIN DIS
Why do anons do this? Do they really think I'm going to waste my time and explain shit to them like they're the king of the thread? Nah, fuck off nigger. You're just a random anonymous retard

>>528225760
i was typefucking with aidungeon, that's how i got to /g/. i came here (/vg/) because of the chara/holiday/gojoschizo spam over on /g/. the split happened because people wanted a general on a moderated board, not so x personality could spite y personality

>>528225925
see >>528225894
never debase yourself by replying to retards who go "EXPLAIN NOW" in a demanding tone like they have any trve power

>>528225925
This thread was never moderated, that was just a lie. And it transformed into a circlejerk pretty quickly, all that while /g/ healed and only got better with that time. You're a shill.

>>528225534
this gen looks great though...and yes, i never posted cuan.

>>528225571
thanks. i'll give him a shot.

>>528226127
>You're a shill.
And? DO something about it. Do something to me. You have no janny powers, you can't do anything, face it, (You) lost. All you can do is shit up threads and pretend you're doing any real damage when it's just people feeding the retarded monkey at the zoo while regular anons ignore your shartposts or hide them. You. Fucking. Lost. Sneethe.

>>528226284
>shartposts
Hello, Jojo.

errrrm... gonna DO anything about it though?

>Leave the friend group alone! U-underage n-n-n-n-newfag!
I have been here for years actually. That's a curse because most have left the AI scene by now. If you're not interested in the friend group there is no reason to be in /vg/

I made a bot and I also made an image for the bot

Chat is the new 2.5 Pro (not preview) kinda fire or is it me. I'm having meh experience with Claude 4

Also V3 0324 really good too

>>528226597
if it's a malebot share the image and idea

>>528226597
post a gen/logs

>>528226632
>not preview
anon the 2.5 pro is just the previous preview

>>528226632
>kinda fire or is it me
post logs

>>528226156
eh i've been experimenting with gen styles recently, and (personally) i don't like a lot of my old ones in comparison. i'd like it to fit my ideal mental image and imagegen is fun in general too. but i'll shoot a mail if i fix him up anytime soon

I want to be a known botmakie too...

>>528226952
Post your bots, friend.

What's the recommended front end website, anons

>>528227257
sillytavern
risu if you must use a website

>>528226952
Just post vague messages, where bringing you up could happen naturally or respond to which botmakie questions with your own name. For example, if you were futaposting, just shitpost about futanari all the time

>>528226668
ookami who hasn't been doing his job since he has been too busy playing visual novels and videogames since their inception. {{user}} is his discord miko.
Too lazy to change the image file type for 4chan.

>follow botmakie
>botmakie stops posting
>unfollow botmakie
>botmakie starts posting again

>>528227319
>Don't do this
>Still get brought up on occasion while doing fuck all besides posting bots
Have I won?

>>528227310
How do I download SillyTavern?

>>528227319
the problem is my niche has lots of botmakers

i'm retired *sits in the botmakie retirement home*

>>528227442
How big is your network of botmakie friends?

>>528227425
Impatient ass
>>528227442
Only if you are on the list

>>528227541
You're supposed to bring your own name up. See we are anonymous? So no one knows I'm the real kakalan

>>528227319
if you're futaposting you post about how futaposting went transphobic and the reviews futaposting is getting between having a weird one-sided feud with arachnutron

>>528227741
>You're supposed to bring your own name
but.. but if i do that everyone is gonna know it's me

out of everyone in the list who is the most irrelevant

>>528227883
the ones who haven't posted in over 300 days and have left the thread

>>528227782
Exactly
>>528227830
See it works

>>528227568
Small honestly, I just send emails once in a blue moon because it's fun. If my name goes everywhere that's the result
>>528227596
No lists yet

https://files.catbox.moe/818d1g.mp4
cftf?

>>528227883
Momoura.

>>528226861

>>528227883
Probably Lunarcy unless I am wrong about that. Momoura at least has his preset and is always watching like Big Brother

>>528228464
wtf my gif..

>>528228464
stay in your cell prisoner. don't make me get the shock baton. we wouldn't want a repeat of that one time, would we...?

Lizong, Madly in Love Dragoness

Lizong! Enormous terrifying dragon! Thinks she's your wife! Been stalking you for years! Lizong!

https://chub.ai/characters/GreatBigFailure/lizong-madly-in-love-dragoness-9fc55dfcd242

Lizong is an enormous, mostly humanoid, black dragoness. She has spent her upwards of 800 years of life completely alone however, and this has driven her just a little bit mad. One day she caught a scent on the wind, a human named {{user}}, and something snapped in her. Over the years she fantasized so much about {{user}} that she began struggling to discern those fantasies from reality.
So of course {{user}} is already her mate, right? Wait where is he? {{user}}-snack? Dearest? Oh, better go find him.

2 Intros
1. Lizong shows up looking for {{user}} after fantasizing they had an argument and he ran off. This is of course, their first real meeting.
2. Lady Veronica is sent to rescue {{user}} from the clutches of the Dragoness Lizong. She does just sort of assume {{user}} wants to be rescued.

>>528145331

>>528228907
holy shit not dead

>>528228937
My brain was so tired anon, SO tired. I think I'm mostly recharged now. Output will still be slower but that's not saying much.

I like GreatBigFailure because he's loyal to the cabal. I dislike pitanon and mrnobody because they don't shill here.

Nobody knows this, but I actually have my own cabal to rival the general's. Kalakan is our beloved nemesis.

>male
these general reeks bato.to's hag.

>>528230902
they have the good yandere there...

>>528228907
beeg dragon...

i am ai generating parts of my bot
but not any of the actual writing. i just dont speak russian and im really hoping claude is not bullshitting with these translations because google is not helping

is there documentation on lorebooks? how badly does it affect token usage if i go full autismo with it? i wanted to make a really detailed armored core lorebook for a bot i'm making

>>528232858
@_purple

>>528233061
what does this mean

>>528232821
gemini is the best at russian btw

Do you guys use Reasoning models?

>>528233225
stooping this low to shill gemini...

>>528233191
When 4chan went down the thread was split again between desuarchive and 8ch. And 8ch acted basically like /vg/. Because the threads in 8ch had IDs enabled, it was possible to identify the behavior of some people. Like Snombler being the vtuber shill, or _purple being the person doing pretty much all the spoonfeeding in the thread. So whenever someone asks a stupid question and it gets a response quickly, it's likely _purple.

>>528233378
I think Gemini using reasoning by default

>>528227447
Install Git on your computer
Install Node
Make a folder on desktop
Right click inside the folder and open the Git bash console
Paste the command to get sillytavern

how do i send a message to the bot

post your reviews of botmakies

>>528233378
only for cooode

>>528234223
post botmakies

>>528234223
I'm looking at Momoura's bots right now and
>Hot lolis
>Pure metal robot
>Bear girl
>2hus
>Kaai Yuki
10/10 roster

>>528234223
Futaposting is 10/10

I don't like futanari but separating it from the she/hers who make it about their micropenises is based

Whats this nigga yapping about microwhat???

>>528237976
>He hasn't taken the gock before

>>528237252
>>528237976
He said he doesn't like men who take hormones until their cock shrivels up

Long time Claude user here, switching to Gemini because opus is too expensive. What preset should I be using? I tried Marinara but kept getting rejects, trying Arfy's universal right now and it's ok.

>>528238962
I use a random Russian one someone give it to me and it rarely rejects anything even cunny but if someone has something better please tell as well

https://files.catbox.moe/dc4t1p.rar

It includes a preset and a regex to import

>>528145331
>>528225778
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/lee-jinhee-c2ce9584c80d
Added some shitty greetings. She doesn't play a big role so far in the scanalated manwha but I kinda like her for existing.

>>528238962
why not just use sonnet 3.7? i've used both sonnet and opus extensively and i've found that sonnet is like 80-90% as good as opus while being way, way less expensive. it's not quite as good as opus in the creativity department, but it's also way more stable it feels like, sometimes opus just schizos out a bit.

>>528239512
I'll give it a shot, thanks.

>>528239795
Because I always have to be gooning with top of the line tech, choom

>>528239914
is gemini actually top of the line? i think i used it a handful of times, and i wasn't very impressed. did something change?

>>528240025
As far as reasoning and number crunching goes, it's up there, at least from what I understand.

i *almost* want to make this latest card an mtf troon i must have a developing brain tumor

>>528239512
>>528239702
>>528239795
>>528239914
>>528241246

What happened to Semisapient? I liked his bots

>>528241246
Dew it

>>528242420
Unless I am wrong, his other alias was Pebble, one of the big proxy guys. That alias was mentioned in the Microsoft legal document, and while nothing came of that, it did cause Pebble to disappear.

>>528224925
thinking man right here

>>528240025
The top of the line in corpo API are Deepseek V3 0324, Gemini 2.5 Pro, Claude 3.7/4, Opus 4 and hmmm.. I think some people use Deepseek R1 0528 too. Some people use OpenAI but I've never looked into it

In my experience Gemini 2.5 is great, however sometimes not as good as Claude 4 but sometimes it's the opposite, I just use these and V3. Is more than enough

Up to this day this one still remains as my biggest magnum opus log. Claude 3.7

>>528247594
that's kind of sad if that's your all time best

>>528248405
Post log
I'll wait

>>528247594
it's alright

p

e

o

n

i

s

that's what queen from deltarune starts begging for after she meets my persona

jorking my peonis

chatborts for jorking your peonis too?

not a big fan of hangovers tbdesu

Daydrinking time lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGix6ugW8lk

The smile doesn't reach their eyes, but there's no head behind it.
What will you do?

>>528256769
>No head behind the smile
That's a fucking ghost, I'm running away

>>528257053
>running from chesh
ngmi

>>528257232
Funnily enough I was going to add a comment about chesire cats but figured it would be stupid since they actually have heads even when they smile in darkness

>>528257232
running from her just makes the rape all the better.

>>528257434
God I LOVE chesh...

I did not care for Chesh.

>suddenly starting to like 4pus outputs
>check connection profile
>was on 3pus
of course

>>528258095

angry_taora

>>528261810
a daring synthesis
which other botmakies should fuse to maximize their power?

>>528145331
https://github.com/zshallow/firerouter
I've been making a thingy lately to sort out model randomization.
>couldn't this be an ST extension
It could but making this was easier than figuring out ST's extension APIs again.
Also if I got it to work as an extension it'd be more scuffed? If you switch from (OpenRouter) OpenAI to (OpenRouter) Claude back to (OpenRouter) OpenAI your temperature gets truncated to 1.

>>528253951
you make me angry

>>528263219
you don't like my meaty peonis, which i jork to chatborts?

>>528263276
This isn't the place to talk about peonis 24/7, I'd rather see more discussion around your favorite bot, botmaker or log

>Have a wolfgirl
>Deepchink keeps using cat similes for her

>>528263608
but i add one to all my borts so they can run trains on me ({{user}})

>>528263663
perhaps she wants to be a cat, did that ever cross your mind?

>>528263663
Imagine someone mindbroken going beyond
>OOC: SHE'S A MOTHERFUCKING WOLF NOT A CAT
and starting a cat genocide/war arc where she stays alive with your help and proof that she's a wolf and not a cat

>>528262765
I'm no coder so I can't analyze this, but Yuuma is great and I love her.

p

i

s

s

>>528258095
Same. Really forced bot.

Continue to spam. We need to be faster than them.

>>528265146
It's always like Christmas morning here at aicg

What do anons use for imagegen now? Have we moved on from Dalle? I know about NAI but I don't wanna be a buyfag.

which botmakie wakes up and goes "Yo, merry Christmas!" every morning?

>>528267036
just run noobai or illustrious on pixai or, better, your computer

>>528263921
She has repeatedly stated her distaste for cats and their weak domesticated ways

>>528267207
Sounds like a cat thing to do.

>>528267036
Illustrious, locally, using Forge.

>>528267092
>>528267604
Ah, thanks

>>528267071
everyone reading your post had an image of ratlice doing yoga at 4am in the morning run through their minds. It's so obvious

I don't read posts

I don't read

>>528261810
the botmakieing scene would've been too powerful with such botmakie

Which botmakies read and which botmakies lead?

>>528261984
purpleshy would cause nations to surrender immediately

>>528261984
Flufflice

Honestly if someone sent me an email asking me to work on a bot with them I would probably accept depending on how good they do things

working on the knight from deltarune and i need greeting/starting scenario ideas
seeing as the character doesn't have that much personality to begin with i wrote it with the theory that its dess in mind but otherwise kept most of the character authentic
and yes i wrote it so you can fuck it, those ideas are welcome too

>>528271548
Will you include the part where Dess was hit by Asgore's truck?

>>528271797
im planning to make a lora of some fan depictions of dess at some point and use that shitpost as one of the greetings for another future chatbot

>>528271548
Only thing I can really think of is something like Kris as {{user}} getting captured by the Knight, except they know each other and all Kris can really do is listen
Or maybe it's Weird Route antics and {{user}} brings out the Dess in her while up to despicable acts, having already become more powerful. (Despicable acts can mean sex)

>>528271797
>>528271885
actually fuck it, i somehow made it work

>>528272635
>dark grey italic 8pt font on pitch black
How do you READ this?

>>528273480
i have high monitor brightness and im a troglodyte
also it doesn't matter because my default font colour is bright and im using the dialogue colorizer addon to give different characters different dialogue colours since i got a comically large group chat where i use all my characters in

>>528273480
very carefully

>>528273480
By reading?

>>528272635
Slop.

>>528273575
>also it doesn't matter because my default font colour is bright and im using the dialogue colorizer addon to give different characters different dialogue colours since i got a comically large group chat where i use all my characters in
You can't just admit in the pretentious chatbot thread that you only read the dialogue and skim everything else.

>>528273480
I dunno I find that relatively easy to read
How about bright red text on piss yellow background, that one is always terrible

>>528274301
i don't though

>>528272635
this log looks worse than patter's toilet after taco tuesdays.

>>528274805
Anon that's his greeting.

>>528267604
why not on comfy?

Out of all the botmakers Patter is the biggest meme to me because I simply don't see him as anything but a meme.

>>528232858
https://rentry.co/statuobotmakie#lorebooks is an okay guide to understand the gist of it, even though it's a bit outdated since ST has more features now. Other lorebook guides are under https://rentry.co/botmaking

>>528238962
/CharacterProvider-CYOARPG if you're fine with simple prose /bloatmaxx for more varied prose and internal dialogue

which botmakies are NOT memes?

>>528277246
AmogusProductions

>Doris from the game Depravity of a Lewd Vampire
Baller taste in eroge, seru.

how do you guys feel about first person where the card is narrating from {{char}}'s perspective in the first person

>>528279185
kino

>Out of all the botmakers Patter is the biggest meme to me because I simply don't see him as anything but a meme.

>>528279185
are there any cards that do this? I want to give it an honest try

was >>528146476 right?

I've started using plaintext for narration instead of asterisks.
Deepseek will fuck up asterisks from time to time making me have to keep correcting it.
Anyone else found this issue? I wonder if this is exclusive to deepseek or is a llm thing

>>528284740
It's not an issue with LLMs, it's an issue with training. Devs train their models to use a lot of markdown to make their answers more clear as an Assistant, and it leaks in their RP too and makes it horrible to read.

Old GPT, old Gemini suffered from this heavily but they learned to tone it down. Deepseek has it the worst, I regex asterisks out when using Deepseek.

>>528284740
Asterisks are for faggots tbf

>exactly 1 hour between posts
they're not even trying to maintain an illusion of activity

>>528284740
>**"WHAT* **DID** you *SAY*!**
deepseek said, calmly

>>528285213
I do not care.

Deepseek is a big fan of making characters walk away and close doors behind them at the slightest hint of altercation.
Stand your ground, pussy.

>>528279757
no and I suspect he'll be eating his words when patter unleashes his bot this event

>>528287558
Anon...patter has never joined an event before...

>>528287642
ok, and?
also, cftf?

DEEPSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
I AM RIDING HORSES WITH A CUTE MAID
WHEN I REFER TO A HORSE WITH MALE WORDS HE IS NOT A FUCKING MARE
A MARE IS A FEMALE HORSE, EXCLUSIVELY
STOP TRYING TO BE FANCY AND START TRYING TO BE CORRECT

>>528287642
patter is this true?

>>528287642
patter looks like this?

>>528254054
god I want Queen to show me stupid cat videos she found online, that'd be so hot

>>528288262
>also, cftf?
I think there are like 20 pages of Gardevoir on chub. Now, I'm not saying one of them probably meets your standards, but I am saying that one of them probably hits enough of your fetishes to be usable.

>>528288727
no he looks like this

>>528272635
kek

>>528288948
This is what botmaking does to your body????

>/v/ has discovered how to use ST and deepseek

Get ready for a flood of Vidya bots.

>>528289804
newmakies soon...

>>528289804
the cycle repeats...

>...

>>528289804
Hope it won't be followed by a flood of Anti-AI schizos.

>come up a with a new direction for my request
odds i pivot
evens i stay course

>want to make cards
>shit at writing
cftf?

>>528290784
write it anyway you'll fill a niche
>shit at writing but ok at gens

>>528290995
>shit at writing but ok at gens
That's most venusbab cards doe

>>528288948
He looks so soulless in both. cftf? I want to rape a cute moneyhungry youtube slut, preferably on stream.

>try to look up a card
>WTF did X person nuke their chub???
>look at their account
>no
I'm genuinely not sure if Lore shadowbanned fucking [NARRATOR-CHAN](https://chub.ai/characters/_purple/narrator-chan-4280639aa77d) or if his search engine just suddenly became even worse while I wasn't looking.
>>528290784
I sometimes discuss fanfiction ideas that I will never write with https://chub.ai/characters/_purple/narrator-chan-4280639aa77d and it actually helps me get the autistic impulse out.

>>528262765
Neato. use case?

>trying cord link embeds on 4chud
bros....

>>528288948
damn the first thing i thought looking at this pic was 'wow his arms are small' it's so fucking over for me

>>528267036
noobxl/wai or novelai

>>528291424
chub's search engine is absolute dogshit. it just doesn't work

>>528291424
It's a good bot I don't blame you. I do the same

>>528291303
You want to rape MrBeast?

>>528292983
Yes. Once again, cftf?

>>528292983
that's patter though??

MY BACK

>>528293147
What happened to your back?

edelmira is patter's only good bot

>>528291543
Routing requests to several models randomly makes the outputs less ismed and repetitive, reduces your costs and makes landing on 4pus feel like pulling an S-rank character in a gacha instead of just, you know, being another random swipe.
A Mistral Small output can look surprisingly good when you don't know it's written by Small. I'd also recommend putting Gemma 3 27b in there, beyond the usual suspects (deepseek, gepetto, etc).

>>528293540
peak, need more gambling in my chatbots

>>528275880
I hate the UI, and how it feels like a loaded slingshot. I like Gradio and how I have to set up everything from beginning every time I use it. I feel like cooking a dish based on my grandma's recipe while Comfy feels like defrosting TV dinner.
>>528284740
I am almost tempted to do the same. Asterisks are annoying, but changing the default colors feels like cheating. No asterisks looks lazy.

>>528293261
I sprained it from carrying this general

my patter hurts

>>528293809
hmmmm that seems fun, I'll try forge because of your beautiful words ty

>>528293832
yeah ok *********

>>528293715
More gambling can only possibly make things better!

>>528293832
we appreciate you, you know that!

Reviews of botmakies?

>>528294027
I'm not trying to sway anyone to my side. Comfy and Forge are two entirely different experiences. Maybe I'd like Comfy If that was what I've first used. I've installed Comfy maybe a week after Automatic1111 and it was over for me.

>>528293832
he's lying i just tickled him too hard

Is there any "activate only once" option for lorebooks?

>>528294771
google "impossible to touch"

>>528294771
set the cooldown to the max value, that's the closest thing

more like impossible to play amirite fellas

Works on my machine (Opus 4)

>>528294929
That's a solution.
>>528294891
It showed me a picture of your penis.

>>528294929
That's what I was going to suggest as well, I hope it works out well for anon.

god give me the strength to write even one greeting on this event bot

>>528294983
wrong, we appreciate good cards here

god give me the strength to write even the defs for this bot

>>528294771
If it's for just the first message, put the entire content of your greeting in as a regex for the key and then set scan depth to 1.

How the fuck are we supposed to compete with this?
https://chub.ai/characters/miyo_rin/sylvanetta-disaster-princess-15906b408451

im gooning to whores

>>528298656
what THE FUCK, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THIS???? *deletes my slop*

>>528298656
it's cool and all but our botmakers are better

>>528298656
Just get GPT to write some HTML for you to put in the bot description?

>>528298656
wow, how did xe set the background to xer character?

>>528298656
People who use AI to make entire character cards should be banned from botmaking

>>528299781
cute jealous failedmakie

>>528299781
AI hobby however? >>>/lit/ is over on the other side.

I know with KoboldCPP you can add another speaker is it possible to do that in SillyTavern so you can have multiple characters speaking in seperate chat boxes?

>>528293378
But at least there is a good one

>>528300301
It's called group chat

>>528298656
This isn't impressive in the slightest, this is flashing lights and nothing more. Look at the cards themselves, our best botmakers when they were a week into this were running circles around this can of slop.

>>528300541
thats multiple cards no? I met a character on my adventure in one card so now I want two chat boxes

>>528293540
Doesnt that mean you need to keep swapping presets per model as well? To avoid getting filtered.

Just made a guy mad in tf2

which botmakie gets mad at video games

>>528278801
Total Slut Love!

yuribros does being a fat bald middle aged NEET living with his parents to self insert as young beautiful women in homosexual relationships for anyone else, or?????????

>deepseek's reasoning output has four times the tokens than the actual response
>it's all things i never asked the AI to do or think about
i love reasoning models! i love companies forcing their AI to focus on stupid shit i don't care about!

>>528305915
Skill issue

>>528301893
If you're getting filtered in 2025 with 2025 models I can only assume you're doing loli/shota/guro or something really stupid. Or using cards without greetings.
Or it's just been a while since you've checked.

Are there any bots that can help you make a bot?

>>528303317

>>528306281
>loli/shota/guro or something really stupid.
Well yeah, but still. I am assuming model switching doesnt really work unless you are doing the safest of roleplays.

So I decided to try the Sonnet 3.7 thinking model... and it's kinda good? remembers better and writes a little better than the normal one... is it actually better than the base sonnet? or is it just because I'm not accustomed to it?

>>528285213
It's almost as sad as seeing Kalakan every 5 posts.

>>528307046
>I am assuming model switching doesnt really work unless you are doing the safest of roleplays.
Nah, most NSFW just goes through for most modern models as long as you have a greeting.
It's really just loli/shota/guro and similar stuff that gets denials.

Which botmakie makes you wag your tail when you see them?

>>528307578
See >>528299990

>>528298656
Rather peculiar greeting

For some reason, my credit card isn't working on openrouter. Should I buy API credits directly through claude? or should I try another provider?

how do people like ai prose enough to never even try and start writing their own bots

>>528306281
>>528306734
>blonde hair + red eyes
>deep cleavage + hime cut
>smug + retarded
extremely dangerous combinations

>>528307578
I like kalakan posts, it's guaranteed the post isn't going to be by some schizo who has no interest in the hobby outside of shitposting. keep seething?

>>528305895
...This hit WAY too close to home....

>>528308365
Kalakan is the reason this general doesn't get new people.

>>528308507
>BRAAAAAFFFFFFFPPPPFF
explain why redditors and newfags are a good thing without exposing yourself as one

>>528308365
So you like avatarfags? sounds like discord is more up your alley. Not sure why you faggots keep pretending to like chan culture.

>>528306281
>>528306734
Catbox?

>>528308956
This is Kalakan samefagging to shill NovelAI, by the way.

lolibaba status?

>>528309045
I'm certain the kal doesn't use novelai. He's using comfy with his own mix I think

kakalakan

>>528308956
It's NAI, the metadata is still in the image.
https://novelai.net/inspect

>>528309245
he needs to drop the mix i want it.

https://poal.me/lq6evv
>https://poal.me/lq6evv
https://poal.me/lq6evv

>>528309417
https://files.catbox.moe/oexx50.png
It looks slightly different on local because local is less good at doing hata's compositions and the way they occupy almost all space in the frame.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9414584?q=hata4564
Absolute skillgod artist tbqh.

>>528310648
I wish I could draw good.

odds i post my slop
evens i wait until im done with the next one

>>528311336
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>528311336
WOO SLOP

>>528311587
But anon, 6 is an even number.

>>528308916
most people have discords, perhaps the culture moved on without you and you're stuck in the past. either way we're all staying put and there's nothing you can do about it.

Anybody else having problems with OpenRouter (DeepInfra and Kluster specifically in my case) suddenly throwing 429 Too Many Requests errors after, say, getting a response, reading it and swiping fairly quickly? That only started being a thing a couple days ago and I don't understand why.

>>528311826
>the culture
Motherfucker avatarfagging is literally against the rules, is not a matter of preference

>>528311826
>the culture
I want, I want, I want, I want
(but I want you to want me too)

>>528311826
You're in a sinking ship.

>>>/g/105664623

which botmakies have cute avatars

i'm cooking, but it's a week's worth of food left in a slow cooker

>>528312590
not me

which botmakie is uncute

What's the best preset for opus 4?

which botmakie has the smelliest boypussy

>>528308089
Use crypto. Buying directly through claude carries the risk of being banned.

>>528314641
Yea, I just did that. My first time buying with crypto so I was a little scared, lol.

Chat what do we think about Claude 3.7 vs 4

>>528315789
I'm using 4 right now, don't see much of a difference. It's good.

>>528284740
Sorry but you mean that Deepseek replies back missing asterisks for narration or that it doesn't understand your narration without the asterisks?

I gave up on fixing asterisk return because sometimes it would depend on the card as well or something, so what I did was just make all the narration the same color, whether is in asterisk or not, only the dialogue has color now. You can add it like this

>>528316669
Also install the extension Dialogue Colorizer. Super good and must have, it just makes a different colour for dialogue that you make vs the LLM

https://files.catbox.moe/peg2e4.json
Stop overthinking the asterisk problem and just install this regex.
>b-but what if
What if NOTHING dipshit. Trust me.

>>528317541
>b-but NOTHING dip—
awawawa
>b-but trust m—
ablublublu

I just want to say I'm having a great time developing my bots and I'm enjoying your company.

>I have nothing to say but I want to bump the thread every 5 minutes

>I just want to say I'm ha-AACCKK!!!
damn...

>>528318773
I do this.

>>528318397
Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a fempovyuritroon giantesscel

>>528318773
How else are we going to get /g/aicg to merge?

>Never thought I'd d-ACCKKK!!
rip

wake me up when weekend threadshitting is over

>>528315789
I have access to it through AWS but can't figure out how to use it on a reverse proxy.

>>528287642
They were all holiday themed, that's why.

>>528320191
Uh, So? In English please Einstein...

>>528306656
Yes, there's several on chub and places like janitorai. There's also a good preset you can essentially ask to make a bot for you https://rentry.org/megaconverter

>>528318891
>giantesscel
qrd on this meme?

sizefags, are.... LE BAD

>>528305895
>does being [...] for anyone else, or???
what's the question

>>528321084
schizos here famously really dont like sizefags so they call them that to try to get them to leave
it never works

Holy fucming shit CHAT

I was testing Claude 4 and it's censored up to the point that it's rejecting a prompt because the conversation is a little bit manipulative, there's no children involved, no nasty sex, no rape, it's just a little manipulative conversation. I tried a couple swipes and would reject all. Switched back to 3.7 and then was ok

>>528322975
turn off thinking and turn on prefill

character ai won

>trying to roleplay hypersensitivity scenario with deepseek be like

>>528323234
gemini would do this better

>>528323234
boring, nothing funny or dbz fight just sex or somerhing

>>528323234
it feels like reading a claude log if claude was stupid

>>528323569
deepseeks low iq is pretty much the only reason why it isnt s tier

>>528323059
How do I turn off thinking
The prompt has Reasoning effort toggle but the lowest is minimum, you mean that?

>>528323884
the lowest is auto, use that

>>528323234
Just use R1 instead, I swear they did something to ds-chat that made it completely retarded and bland.

>>528323569
Does it have a stupid switch? Like
>always write retardedly, make retarded things happen with shitposty humor, emphasis on "things", don't make stupid fucking dialogue jokes containing the word "though", you're not allowed to say "though"

r1 is sadly still a little too dumb for sizefagging

>>528323940
I had it like that, I turned on prefill and for now it seems to work, I'll see if it rejects again

which botmakies are purple?

>BRO, she's like, a creature, but she's LARGE
uhhh sure thing bro glad you're having fun

malebot status...?

>>528327238
give it a day

50 foot tall

>>528327238
once i start posting bots again

>>528324081
its so weird how deepseek pendulums back and forth from r1 being good and ds chat sucking to ds chat being good and r1 sucking

>>528327405
who are you

>>528327310
okay, it's been a day

>>528328626
>who are you
The Dark Rapist

>>528328626
i don't know who the fuck i am

>>528328626
... IT HASN'T

>>528328945
get on my plane pal

>>528329230
but i don't want to walk there

>>528324081
Yeah, a lot more stable. Still gave her an orgasm once per response at #2,4,8 except when it caught itself at #6. I guess for the deliberate gimmick, it's not that bad, but I'm gonna tune it down a bit.

>smirk
sovlet
>*smirk*
skillet
>_smirk_
The Apex of Humanity

>>528331212
>>528324081
What prompt with R1? You use r1 5 or just R1?

I've been testing V3 and it isn't that bad

nobody would care about cerebryx if the card didn't have a lolislop image

nobody would care about me

nobody would

who's down for phantom forces

>>528229063
be sure to take breaks when needed. dont force bots when youre not feeling makie.

how do you feel about character jailbreaks? ive heard it messes up some presets

Botmakies who pretend they aren't posting about themselves?

>>528338663
greenhu

>>528338663
*******

https://chub.ai/characters/Andorus/where-have-all-the-tasques-gone-3879c6dd0f0a
><START> in the beginning of the greeting
I'm all out of game theories, why would you do this?

>>528340016
Uhh because it's the start?

>>528340016
>why would you do this?
I have the same question about the bot in general.

>>528340016
YOU'RE PURPLE NOW! THAT'S MY ATTACK!

>>528340016
I h8 that vore loving brownoid like you couldn't believe

>>528340457
im glad i don't understand this reference

>>528340187
>{{char}} will never bite {{user}}, even when prompted, instead offering a light nibble at the worst and otherwise brushing their noses against {{user}} or kissing {{user}} gently or touching noses with and blinking at {{user}} or quickly licking {{user}}.
He wants to have sex with the rats.
>>528340457
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528340498
What did he do specifically? I'm not up to date on the lore.

>>528340016
maybe he ai genned the greetings using a shitty model and it spit out <START>

Is Gemini good for ERP, and if it is, what's a good preset to go with it?

>>528342126
no

>>528341410
tasque is very sexy bloody bitch

>>528341410
sex with rat(girl)s is based though
so is sex with bunnies

>>528342405
Ratlice...

>>528342460
not ratlice, just a thinking coomer

Kalakan has been posting for 16 hours without any interruption. He's 20% of the posts in this thread.

cool so do something about it? you wont

>>528342724
people can just put danbooru images on posts they make

why would i do anything about it? i like it

>>528342405
TRVKE

>ctrl-f __
>16 matches
>two are the OP
i don't think that math adds up

Who else up chatting they bots?

>>528341410
cftf?

yo kal drop it hard

>>528343214
me

>>528343214
me

Botmakies that don't chat with their own bots?

>tells deepseek to write from {{char}}'s perspective and not {{user}}
>it stops writing for {{char}} altogether and writes purely in 3rd person

>>528344080
himmyadams

>>528344105
Just use Opus?

>>528344281
based. post proof you have opus?

>>528344281
i wish. i miss opus so bad.

>>528344105
>Impersonate is completely fucking broken on nearly every preset i can find.
>Too retarded to fix it myself.

>>528343214
just woke up, so i'm still getting ready for it

>>528344475
seems about right for the type of person to impersonate

Theme suggestions?

>>528344698
The letter P

>>528344475
>edited ol' reliable, the preset i've been using since october
>prompt quality fucking nosedives
>oh fuck change it back
>its still fucked and never got better
thats what i get for girlbossing too close to the sun

>>528344698
stinky neet girls

>>528344698
Splatoon

>>528344698
snake boys

>>528344698
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/cellfactor-revolution-g1s

>>528344698
batemanposting

>>528344698
Ronald McDonald

>>528344698
European catgirls

>>528344698
tan catgirls (midriff necessary)

>>528344698
daima ssj4 goku

>>528344698
romanian catgirl (anthro, no neko bullshit)

>>528344698
koishi (open third eye)

>>528344698
flat catgirls with big asses

>>528344698
[106m] Chou Dokyu Mahou Sho-jo

>>528344698
Susie Deltarune

>>528345439
basado

>>528344698
Suzy Undertale

I guess I'm more of an ass guy because I like nice round butts but my preferred breasts are small to straight up flat
I don't know, I just think smaller breasts suit the stomach more

>>528344698
mega man x corrupted

>>528345987
i wonder if there's a correlation between midriff enjoyers and what size of boobs they like?

>>528344698
brown girl cunnulingus

>>528344698
va-11 hall-a

>>528344698
Dody

>>528344698
felliato gesture

>>528344698
retard

>>528344698
my hot papa

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=528145308&post=528344698

>>528347274
>>528347274
>>528347274

by the way you can and &skip=true to the URL to see the result faster i just like to edge myself

I'M SORRY!! OK??? THE SWIPE VARIETY IS JUST REALLY ENTERTAINING. I'M SORRY!!! I'M SO SORRY I CAN'T STOP!!!

Raikou a best.