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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
May 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
May 20 Heart of Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg
Jun 10 1.003.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516337874624317890
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA


>LATEST PATCH
Jun 17 1.003.103 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/580514905803724132

first for seaf chan

>>528285413
No, it would be too strong. Instead I want it and the game to be overhauled to make it perform like an actual Javelin.

1. Give it fire modes for direct attacks and top-down attacks. Then modify the body parts on bot heavies so that they have a hitbox on top with weaker armor and which has less HP and can be fatal. This also has the added benefit of giving other AT weapons another combat option where you can try to get close to and above a heavy to try to kill it in one shot.

2. The projectile has a double kinetic penetrator that inflicts two consecutive but separate instances of damage. This means you can break armor and then damage the internals, which lets it kill bug heavies and Harvesters in one shot, but against really thick armor it just expends all that damage to attempt to break the armor.

3. Give it the Commando laser as another fire mode, so you can choose to laser-guide the projectile directly instead of relying on the homing lock-on.

And on that note, also give the Commando a fire option where you can launch all four rockets at once.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243547334438/76561197987223994
3/4
3rd for ARBL team killing!

Around these parts we respect Helldivers.

>>528286406
gross slop

>>528286661
Rude!

>>528282220
gg(?)

>>528286824
kill yourself

Around these parts we eagerly await Justice's imminent release.

>>528286857
Nah, don't wanna.

>>528286850
>projectile goes past ship
>projectile explodes on backwing
this game is made by fucking retards

>>528286276 (OP)
>whole lobby's lean running light armor

>>528286938
Next week, i believe ...

14th for better seaf chan

>>528287147
desync
the player hit the backwing, but the recording player's PC registered it as missing
desync was corrected and reverted

>>528287007

I want to breed SEAF-chan

>>528279564
ggs

>>528287423
what was her problem

>>528287362
And you felt the need to declare your lust because...?

>>528287351
perhaps you may be correct however i still stand by my previous statement

>>528287481
she's a tendie

>>528287576
yeah fair
there's a few ways to do netcode for games that handle this much shit at once, and the way they do it is pretty fucky wucky
personally i'd still take its quirks to having to deal with high ping genuinely ruining lobbies

>>528287481
she realized too late she just sold an xbox game to an obvious playstation-haver

>NOOO, THERE'S LESS THAN HALF THE PLAYERS FIGHTING THE MO, THIS MEANS THAT SQUIDS ARE A BAD FACTION!!!!11

Or, consider that it's just bad GMing and everyone already gave up on the MO because it was unwinnable. Joel started the planets out with a horrendously high decay rate, and somehow expected us to liberate the equivalent of five planets within five days against a global 3% decay rate. It was a forced loss from the get-go, and I'm kind of surprised that everyone tolerated it for as long as they did.

come up with this nigga's stats and role in the automaton roster

How long, do you think, until they actually enable this shit?

>>528287816
I have Mo fatigue. I only play whats fun. I don't care about the shitty railroaded story anymore. Especially after how hard they tried to railroad battle for SE and how weirdly it ended.

>>528286559
I feel like itd still be ass, the ammo on it is still really low

>>528288014
>fake ass AI slop
probably never?

>>528288116
>fake
Nice try ironsights.

>>528288116
You faggots will call anything AI if you don't like it.

>>528288014
that magic squigger doesn't die immediately /hdg/ won't like it

>>528287816
no it's definitely the leviathans and zombie roster fatigue

>>528287576
>>528287351
the airburst also has a detonation radius, the firing player was far enough away to have the rocket arm. the projectile particle continuing on is just a vfx bug

>>528288387
why do you keep pretending zombies aren't a popular enemy trope

>>528288014
Squids seemingly juat got their own front so probably relatively soon in swedish terms. Maybie during the next warbond? They look pretty finished so it cant be that long
>They look pretty finished so it cant be that long
Yeah I know just work with me

>>528288116
Its not ai. It looks literally nothing like ai. I know you're upset because you were wrong but this is childish

>>528288116
Jega, is this true?

>>528288548
a decade ago, sure

>>528282220
3/4
bugs D10
Teamkill goodness

>no hulk jetpacks
>no automaton warships
>no automaton war striders
Why are bots forgotten

What does this thing do, does it only stun and nothing else? Why would I bring this over thermites?

Adjudicator or Reprimand?
Modded and all that the Reprimand beats the Adjudicator on the numbers that matter for clicking heads, however, using both guns the Adjudicator feels better to use and I have had much more fun and success using it than the other.
What gives?

>>528288751
you would never, the entire warbond is DoA

>>528288751
you get four (4) of them, too
amazingly worthless

>>528288751
Throw it at friends

>>528288751
Yes it just stuns
>Why would I bring this over thermites?
No reason. It has an aoe but you'd do better with the stun grenade. Its good for flesh mobs and nothing else.

>>528288751
It stuns multiple times and on a small radius. I actually like it. Like, its not "meta" or anything, but the game is easy anyway so.

Do fucktards not know to disable their fucking shock-dog when holding points like extraction?
How fucking hard is it to press 5 and NOT chain-team-kill all other players over and over?

>>528288032
I feel that the low ammo count would be fair if the weapon was given the ability to one-shot the vast majority of heavies in the game if you use it right. Right now, the Spear's higher damage per shot over the Recoilless doesn't matter because you can't target weak points, but these changes would give it a solid advantage in almost every situation. For instance, choosing direct trajectory against a Bile Titan that's facing you or using the laser designator would let you one-shot it with a headshot when previously it could only happen if the Bile Titan was far enough away and you angled the shot correctly. Factory Striders still take at least two shots to kill and even then only if you manage to get it facing you head-on so that the lock-on causes it to hit the head. It can't kill Harvesters in one shot because of their layered armor, but if given a double penetrator it could at least crack the armor and maim it in the very worst-case scenario, leaving it easy to finish off with other weapons.

>>528288801
Reprimand has extremely aggressive damage falloff over distances above 20m.
Adjuducator does not.

>>528288801
>however, using both guns the Adjudicator feels better to use and I have had much more fun and success using it than the other
Then why are you asking? You're literally doing the "Just watched/played [THING], what did I think of it?" shitpost.

>>528287926
like everything else in the game or the "ebin leaks" caused by ironfaggot - purely to cause both /hdg/ and reddit (whats the difference) to get mad about something.

MAJOR FUCKING HAPPENING: THE ILLUMINATE HAVE RAISED THE PURPLE FLAG OF PUNISHMENT

I REPEAT THE ILLUMINATE HAVE RAISED THE PURPLE FUCKING FLAG OF PUNISHMENT

SUPER EARTH IS ABOUT TO GET NUKED

>>528289040
Shut the fuck up niggertranny

>>528288801
the reprimand is an smg and has a ton of damage falloff, adjudicator doesn't

>>528288931
you know you can just walk up to a teammate and stow their dog by killing them

>>528289182
You got me all wrong, my Aryan brother

>>528288801
1. The Adjudicator has a 30-round magazine and better customization options.

2. The Reprimand is a SMG and thus has really terrible damage falloff.

Use the Adjudicator if you want to fight at standoff range (beyond 30-ish meters). Use the Reprimand if you mostly fight at slugfest range (inside of 25 meters).

>>528289124
>Everyone will feel it

>>528289029
>>528289207
>>528289341
So that explains it. I apologize I didn't see any damage falloff stat ingame

I feel like the leviathan was added only to blow up my turret sentries. My poor gatling sentry was annihilated within 5 seconds by a teleporting leviathan every time I called it in.

>Alairt is going to get taken in a week and two days despite half the playerbase diving on it
The fuck?

>>528289446
It isn't explained in-game at all, you're supposed to read patch notes and watch developer videos to know how half the shit in this game works.

>wake up
>still no medium siege ready armor
life is such a joke

>>528289423
https://youtube.com/shorts/hQITkIaC-EE?si=h7EuLUN6R9ItXol9

>>528289446
No these faggots literally have a full slew of autistic stats like that, but they decided to NOT show them to the players because they wanted us to use weapons because they're cool and not because they're good ))))))))))))))))))))

>>528287816
>Or, consider that it's just bad GMing and everyone already gave up on the MO because it was unwinnable
Its both

>>528288751
damn on first glance I thought it was a melee
a morning star would be pretty kino

>>528289469
It has 2.2 million HP, whereas normal planets have 1 million. We're basically being asked to liberate the equivalent of four and a half planets within five days, and right now we're at one and a half planets left.

>>528289561
>>528289643
>LE BURDEN OF LE KNOWLEDGE
We dota now

>>528289631
That's on purpose, same reason there's no democracy protects light armor

>no heavy unflinching

>>528289631
If you just care about the faster reload speed, Reinforced Epaulettes is what you want.

>>528288014
july with a new biome
trust the plan
Q

>>528287816
Squids fucking suck and most people don't know shit about the galactic war mechanics or don't care
Personally I'm taking a break from the game until tuesday brings about something hopefully new like bot cities

>>528289805
For what possible raisin?

>>528289879
I want the extra primary ammo. So much of the fun of many guns is taken away by having to be so miserly with the ammo, for me.

>>528289446
There's something like 50 stats for weapons, most of them are hidden from the player. Unless you're a chronic patch-reader you wouldn't know about bullet drag and how SMGs got stomped into the dirt with it last month.
>>528289710
Why am I not surprised?
I'll take "laughing at squidfags" as a consolation prize, at least.

>>528289641
>you're a bot
>your first engagement with the Helldivers
>you drop with your bros, huge drop too. Full of hulks, two factory striders, lots of devastators and shit
>see two drop ships getting blown out of the sky, one factory strider smashing into the ground
>you make it alive, explosions and gunfire everywhere, a hulk gets stuck by some weird spikey grenade and explodes
>the factory strider that survived gets his chin machineguns sniped by some dude you cannot even see
>suddenly you hear a maniachal laugh coming at you
>its a fucking Helldiver
>he stabs himself with some weird stuff and starts running full speed, shrugging off multiple hits
>wait, what kind of backpack is that ?
Fuck bots.

>>528288116
Doomsissys coping about it being AI now? Lol. AI can't do that yet and to get even close to it would be quite expensive and time consuming. Making that the old fashioned way would require a lot of work and I doubt there's someone willing to do that much just for the lolz.

lmao found this in my clips folder

>>528290525
>Mothdiver flying too close to the bug zapper
Lmao.

>>528288014
>Enemy actually seems competently made with good and clear attack indicators and most of all seems like a fun addition
LMAO never, this is fake as fuck. Swedes would never be able to make anything even half as good, at best it's just restored cut content than the current AH will never touch for whatever fucking reason most likely because they genuinely despise their players for liking good design rather than the retarded "milsim" (as in milsim but only when it inconveniences the player) shit.

Super earth lost.

Been gone for a minute, is the napalm airstrike still useless?

>>528290069
>>528289631
This has me so freakin' PISSED OFF I even went and opened a ticket!!!

Could the Omnitrix work as a strategem?

>>528288751
the entire warbond is for people who hate fleshmobs and think this will help them

>>528290915
>enemy that you can slowly sidestep to dodge
>well designed

>>528290974
It's great, I bring it on bugs often.

>>528290948
>t. Illegal broadcaster

>>528291186
I like the warbond because I love Arc Weapons

>>528291185
This is the most autistic thing I've read in like 2 weeks.

>>528291169
only after they fix it giving ammo to non primaries

>>528290090
But these 'tubers say Reprimand is now OP because it's now a laser pointer and the Knight is a better Stalwart because of the mods

>>528291417
That's fine, I want the effect for primaries, not support weapons.

>>528289469
The liberation boost from the cities makes the calculation wrong. Looking at the previous planet each city gave a greater liberation boost than the previous one with the last city giving something like 20%.
>>528289983
Optimistic today are we? Bot mega city invasions are close but we just got squid mega cities and it's obvious that they want to push the squid narrative forward. Although, I guess a bot MO would be possible if we lose the MO.
>win MO
>squids retaliate due to their losses, pushes cult faction closer
>lose MO
>squid front calms down, bot attacks
Either way, summer vacation just kicked off so expect slower releases for a couple of months.

>>528279564
ggs

I can't wait for caliber discussions when different ammo types become available

>>528289631
medium SR never ever
PP with sleeves never ever

>>528291848
Sometimes I forget how long and how many words/letters the french use to name their stuff

Do you rike the new city based liberation system? Do you rike the squids? Do you rike the squid MO?

>>528291169
>whoops, we've had a medium siege set available since the warbond's release but we must have forgotten to add it to the live game! this will be remedied in the next patch!
how mad would you be?

>>528291169
med bois stay seething. Either be a big boi or a lean machine.

>>528292258
Not mad at all, I'd just be happy it's available now. Given their track history, I don't expect new armor sets of old passives to be added for 1-2 years at this point.

haha alright joel it's time to ease up on the squid resistance buddy wouldn't want people to think your MOs are rigged, would we?

Why tf did swedeniggers nerf the warrant?? I can no longer lock on striders

Which Warbond should I buy next?
>Freedom's Flame
>Truth Enforcers
>Servants of Freedom
>Masters of Ceremony
>Force of Law
At this point I ran out of Warbonds I really want to get and 100% everything else.

Dumb question, but does the Eruptor/xbow destroy illuminate ships like a grenade if you shoot it inside the doors? Dropping in 1 minute :(

>>528292554
yes

>>528291795
Best case is Bot mo with mega cities. Then we get cults.

>>528292474
no refunds

>>528292595
ty king, I owe you 1 (one) sloppy

>>528292547
Flame, Enforcers or Servants if you want to get nice stuff.

>>528292547
Servants of Freedom gets you the ultimatum, I guess. I'd probably pick up Freedom's Flame for the Cookout, though.

>>528291169
They'll tell you to fuck off because it's not a bug report

>>528293035
damn I was about to ask them to add sex

/hdg/ is playing in the 4cc vgl divegrass tourney in 5 hours.
we are playing to determine the "biggest jobber of the tournament" award
whether it's going to be us or persona general, that's on the team.
I'll make another post 30 minutes before the game starts

>>528288931
I always recall my ARC dog when the team groups up, and I call down extras for my teammates whenever I can.

>>528292849
Cookout good? I find it underwhelming now compared to other shotguns with mods

>>528293229
we're winning this time for sure

>>528293298
It's my go-to on predator strain, and work using on illuminate depending on your kit.

>>528293298
It's a fire shotgun with enough stagger and pushback to lock down two stalkers or alpha commanders at once. It doesn't kill them as fast as other shotguns due to lower direct damage, but it does kill them while also being superb against chaff thanks to setting everything on fire.
A lot of people underrate it. It trades damage for survivability.

>>528287926
Explosive railcannon, full-auto.
Faster than an FRV
Requires AP7 to damage.
Respawns instantly on kill.
Despawns and respawns if it loses 10% or more of its health.
30k HP.
Half of its body is invulnerable to damage.

>>528293035
They acknowledge feature requests.

>>528288014
In 3 months, but they'll be changed into Overseers and Voteless.

>>528293905
Also, it has better ammo economy and the wide spread actually helps it in this case, since you just want to spray and coat mobs with the DOT rather than outright kill them directly. It's my go-to if I'm bringing a RR on bugs.

>hop on an emplacement (any emplacement)
>hop off
>can't fire primary/support-weapon/secondary
I'm sick of this game.
Sick of these easy as fuck to discover bugs just making it through.
Sick of fucking swedes.

>>528294619
Find any exploding barrel, pick it up and then throw/drop it, that fixes it.

>>528294619
I'm sure they'll fix that one as soon as they fix the customization menu crash.

>>528294619
Don't stim while on the emplacement

>>528295087
And don't run out of ammo on the emplacement either.
Also make sure to let go off LMB before hopping off.

>"hey yall. I work in game dev so what most likely happened is that they did see it but didnt have enough time to fix it because deadlines or it didnt matter because it didn't affect gameplay

>>528295328
also make sure its not a monday.
and that mercury isn't in retrograde.

>>528295087
>>528295328
>>528295451
Actually just don't use emplacements.

>>528294619
get back on and then off again, weapon fixed

Nice MO and faction you stupid fucking Swedes. Next time maybe dont let the intern from India make new units.

>>528294619
play swedish games, win swedish prizes. just be happy they have yet to find a way to transmit surstroemming over tcp ip, im sure thats what the entire god forgotten country is working on.

>>528292436
Its not rigged in the sense that Joel deliberately wanted us to fail. Rather, its swedish incompetence since Joel is testing the new liberation system in production like a fucking gorilla nigger.

>with each new update the shit they break increases
how did they manage to fuck up input delay so badly?
>nade, stim pack, reloading, all have been fucked with
there is 50%+ chance the game will ignore any of those inputs until you spam them
and don't get me started on ragdoll -> get up from prone
why is there a full second delay on that, why do I have to lay there like a fucking lemon
oh and somehow adding another gun that can't shoot after reloading, you'd think they'd figure that shit out by now
and then they fucking add flesh mobs that have hurt box force field that extends a full meter, maybe more from the model
AND the fucking clipping enemies into everything. HOW do you fuck that up, each thing they clip through is a prefabbed asset, it would be as easy as fixing one of them and it would fix every single other one
are swedes even worse at coding than russians

>>528296284
I remembered a few more
>animations of legs or torso getting stuck
don't remember that on launch
the fucking audacity to release leviathans in the stay that they are
>0 weakspots
>0 ways to disable guns without heaviest AT weapons
>it spawns like a common enemy
>stratagems made to deal with this shit can't target them

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243564603365
D10 any

>>528296490
I honestly think leviathans had been released with an armor class above all AP that we have then they would be more well received, because then there would be no question that they're meant to be a stage hazard and not something you try and kill.

>>528296564
failed

>>528295976
Hey now, the interloper is fun and the mortar squid just sort of exists. So it's at least one good unit, one meh unit, one bad unit and one awful unit!

>>528296879
People would have hated them more actually. As its an invincible roaming enemy that one shots you and mechs/vehicles. It was a rare move of forsight to make them killable

>yet another armoury crash
what is it about this one function of the game that's impossible for them to code

>>528297168
sorry full :)

>>528296284
They are working on an abandonware game engine with no technical support. The only reason they are using the stringray engine is that it was first dev'd in sweden and they have a stick up their ass about using a swedish made product. If they used actually supported engine like unreal then the number of bugs would be crushed.

>>528288801
Lib pen with a drum mogs the 2

>amendment have modelled ironsights
>they're not usable
fucks sake

Lobby when

>>528288931
I bring shield generator when running a dog so I don't kill all the level 30-80s that walk in front of me, and I just stay outside of it with the dog, haven't killed a teammate since. Just remember most of these guys tk with it intentionally.

>>528297624
I like how the LibPen shoots, I just don't like the TTK for it. Yes, I am a controllerfag, how could you tell?

>>528287926
I'm thinking 0% accuracy, slowly walking to you with a 1 tappable head

>>528297624
>60 damage
Ew
Keep your limp dick gun to yourself

>>528298836
Sir, your eruptor/exbow is that way

>>528299023
I sure will, lmao

Are we playing in the /vg/ cup today or are there no more games for losers like /hdg/?

>>528291169
Just run the heavy Siege Ready with the jump pack, that's what I always do now.

Can finally enact revenge on these flying assholes

>>528297204
there's nothing wrong with flash mobs do you get angry that chargers need AT to take down efficiently? bring explosive weapons

Let's go blow stuff up anon, democracy decides our foe.

>>528300000
Alexus get

>>528300213
Fuck's sake, get in here anon
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243566747662/76561198040375859

>>528288801
You weren't fighting bots, since the Reprimand hits an important breakpoint of one tapping dev heads while the Adju needs two bullets.

>>528299701
You can just shooting them with Medium Pen, anon

>>528300000
Checked TRVKE

>>528300000
>there's nothing wrong with flash mobs
*wallhacks into the platform you're standing on and slaps you to death*

>>528300000
There's so many way to fuck them up really. People are fucking babies.

>>528300810
Shooting with a Machine gun or Anti Material Rifle just gets me killed and I have to survive like 4 bombing runs in total before they go down

>>528301460
Unironic skill issue. Like at most you get it at the second pass.

>>528301274
Nobody thinks they're hard, mister strawman builder
They're just annoying as fuck

>>528301274
it's a low effort buggy as fuck enemy
>the heads aren't a weak spot
>clips through everything
>aoe damage area

Whats up with that?

>>528301576
>>528301591
The clipping is real, yeah. But otherwise they're fine really. I love unloading into them with my bros. Its fun. If you want shit that dies in a couple bullets go back to bugs.

>>528300000
NTA and I can kill them just fine but I still feel they are way too tanky. They have the same body HP as a fucking bile titan.
They should have a similar spawn rate to harversters, rather than spawning in the numbers they currently do.

>>528301572
I'm still learning so it's all good

>>528301790
If you vote for it it crashes your game.

>want to level other guns
>the whole time I'm using them I keep thinking about how much more fun I would be having with the Eruptor
>but if I use the Eruptor I'm wasting exp that could go towards leveling other guns
...

>>528301857
>LiveLeak

>>528301851
Worry not, I always vote with the blob

>>528301797
thats not what's being said about them
it's a misleading design
>glowy heads that get destroyed when shot
anyone normal would expect that thats a spot you shoot for extra damage
but in reality it's not

>>528301239
>This shitty bugged enemy just bugged itself into the place I'm standing on
>Should I climb down so that it follows me and unbugs itself so I can kill it?
>No, let me just get close to it like a retard so it kills me and I can complain about it

>>528302008
We're back to
>charger's butt isn't a weakspot
gaslighting from Arrowhead. I feel at home.

>>528300000
The game spawns significantly more fleshmobs than chargers, chargers have weak point, fleshmobs have the same health as a BT, and they spawn as low as D3. Nothing about the illuminate or their spawns changes above D3 and they balanced all the new units for megacities

>>528301945
It's just cute this time, anon.

>>528302057
only on /vg/ you'd find someone blaming the player for a dogshit game bugs

>>528301857
>Liveleak
Shan't be clicking

>>528302178
We're bored.

>>528293229
You better win. Sweden shall suffer no defeat or else Joel will visit you when you least expect it.

>>528302178
I'm blaming you for being a retard

>>528301274
yeah like
explosives, explosives, some explosives and this explosive thingamabob
very interesting gameplay

>same HP as a heavy
>ragdoll attacks
>no weakpoints
>bugs through walls and platforms
>spawns in chaff numbers
>CC is very inconsistent against them
And people will call this good design

>>528302395
Just focus fire on them with your bros. Knight, Stalwart, MGs in general, anything really. Explosives work well but aren't NEEDED.

>>528295328
>>528295451
stimming while on the emplacement is what actually breaks your weapon though
also stimming breaks your melee attack animation
also stimming while on the emplacement breaks your characters skeleton
also stimming while on the emplacement then opening your stratagem menu to fix your weapon not firing fucks up the visual ergonomics of your weapon, but not its actual ergonomics

nothing gives me squigger fatigue more than seeing a dozen fleshmobs in one area. I can kill them. I will kill them. Doesn't make any of it fun or interesting, they're literal anti-fun blobs unless you carry one of two explosive weapons and this ONE primary that is so fucking overpowered that I can't find any joy or interest in using it at all.

>>528301837
I've had 6 spawn rapid-fire during civi evac alongside cresceht overseers while helping cadets on a 4, followed up immediately by two stingrays.

If the next patch doesn't buff the Urchin, I'm gonna piss in my sink.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243570839339/76561198126520852
D10, Robots.

>throw firework grenade
>it kills 2 fleshmobs
people really are struggling with them...

>>528302683
I fixed this by dropping something and picking it back up.

me after annihilating 139 overseers, 54 fleshmobs, 5 leviathans, 15 stingrays, and about a thousand voteless in under a minute using nothing but libpen on burst mode, strafing run, and the one true flag
>this isn't fun

troons
>JUST TURN DOWN THE DIFFICULTY THEN?!??? E L E M A O GAME A LITTLE TOO HARD FOR BUBBA? JUST PRESS Q A BUNCH STOP WHINING GAME IS FINE INCEL

>file.png (formerly horny.png)
opinion disregarded

>>528302713
they're a lot less of a chore to kill if you have the combined firepower of the rest of your team with you, you know
fleshmobs are the solofag filter

>>528303336
Based, that's why preds are the best enemy in the game

>>528303336
i don't know what kind of lobbies you find yourself in where you move as a chain gang but that's not how the game is ever actually played on d10
if you have some magic knowledge that will let me tardwrangle every pubbie i come across please let me know

So why do people think Purifier is better than Scorcher? Kinda curious. I've only used Scorcher so far and it melts Overseers and Flesh Mobs really well.

>>528301945
>>528302258
It's actually safe and pretty cute.

>>528300000
Just use gas grenades anon.

Yes, the game should punish for going by yourself

>>528303282
Everytime i see this image i wonder if those weird horny things are hard or soft, they look so fleshy.
I get the urge to grab them and try and snap them off.

>>528303149
FVLL.

>>528303690
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT

>>528303601
you have control over your own movements. find another pubbie or a pubbie duo and stick with them instead of also running off on your own

>>528303696
I also wanna grab em but for different reasons

squids are just boring, anyone can learn how to burn the cosmic turds, it's just that people don't like doing it. you can nerf the leviathan a hundred times and people will not stop calling it a slop design. fleshmobs are just chargers with bullet sponge build in place of armor. just super lame. fun to kill for the first three times.

>>528301837
My take on fleshmobs, they're a retard check. But not against fleshmobs themselves. They're a retard check against the watchers. There's no good efficient way to kill fleshmobs. They're just fat stacks of HP. With other enemies there are achilles heels that you can target to defeat them both quickly and with a minimal expenditure of ammo. But fleshmobs are just HP bloat. Some weapons like ABRL, WASP, and AC can kill them quickly, but at a sizeable ammo cost. Laser weapons can kill them ammo efficiently thanks to providing ranged ways to ignite targets, but it's still a time inefficient way to kill them. Fortunately they're not exceptionally common as ambient enemies. There might be two in a patrol, or four in a POI/objective. All pretty easy to keep under control. But during a reinforcement wave a good 8-12 of the fucking things can spawn, and that can just overwhelm your ammo supply as an individual.

Compared to marauders and every bug that can call for backup, watchers are both extraordinarily rare and extraordinarily conspicuous with their disco lights. But retards still manage to run off and pose for selfies with the damn things. Perhaps they still haven't realized that watchers are the only enemy that can call for backup. Because of this shitters are a MUCH bigger detriment to a team vs squids than vs bugs or bots. When you have a shitter or two running around both triggering reinforcement waves AND failing to contribute meaningful damage vs those reinforcements, then you reach a situation where eventually there's just mathematically too much HP bloat for one or two good players to chew through. We just don't have enough gun to keep up with maximum reinforcement rate fleshmob spam.

Pay attention to your games. There is a night and day difference between games where your teammates just spend 2-3 bullets killing the watchers when they appear, and those where they trigger reinforcements constantly.

>>528301857
I love cats so much.

>>528303970
No, I'm heading for the nearest objective, don't try to make me out to be the problem.

>Difficulty 7
>Breakcore playlist on
>Bots
Yep, it's casual fun time.

>play coop game
>doesn't want to cooperate
what causes this?

>>528303601
>>528304525
so why don't you have any friends to play with?

>play coop game
>equip zap dog

>>528304691
Solotrannies need more than 5 reinforcements and need to abuse the spawn limit.

>>528304824
they're normalfags and stopped playing a year ago like everyone else

>>528304691
This game doesnt encourage teamwork

>>528303970
Helldivers are unreliable. ARCDOG is my friend.

All right, listen up chumps, because both Joel and the Helldivers Companion website are failing you right now.

The addition of cities to planets means that the percentage decay rates are irrelevant. If a planet has cities or towns, that means it'll have more than just 1 million HP, which means that it'll be harder to capture.

Let's take a look at Veld, for example. Now, when you fucks see a 0.56% decay rate, you might immediately assume that it's easy pickings. But that's not true, because they added two cities to it, one Town and one Megacity, which drastically increased the planet HP. Factor in that increase in HP, and what you're actually looking at is 1% decay rate on a planet that has almost twice as much HP as a regular colony planet. This means that it's going to be almost four times harder to liberate than if everyone went to Gar Haren instead, which has no cities and thus regular HP and an actual 0.5% decay rate.

So the next time you armchair generals decide to decry the Blob's incompetency, do a bit of math beforehand to see just how fucked things really are.

>samefagging begins again, this time in the form of incessant coopfaggotry
im noticing

>>528304625
What in the hipster fuck is breakcore?

>>528305007
Where is this information displayed in game?

Sometimes I like to reply to someone in 2 mins after the post was made to make people think theyre samefagging.

>>528305153

>>528302713
This wouldn't be as big of a problem if people like me didn't keep gas and fire surgically attached to bug loadouts. Every single new enemy they added with megacities is a hard counter to emplacements, specifically the HMGe, which were extremely strong on squids because they didn't have a single counter to them except for Harvester laser dice rolls. Crescents, Fleshmobs, Stingrays, and Leviathans all collectively shit on that.

>>528305007
Doesn't change the fact that this MO was possible but squids suck so much that less than half the playerbase is on them despite the MO. Hence the MO failed.

all me btw

>>528305149
Ultrakill gay music

>"SPONGEBOB, ME BOY! YOU DROPPED A NAPALM BARRAGE ON ME WHILE IM STUCK IN ME CÚCK CHAIR! AAACK ACK ACK-- AAAHHHH AHHHHH AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>>528305149
zoomer / tranny music, unironically

>>528289124
Fuck am I supposed to do? I'm literally locked out of the game cause it's too big for my old computer

>>528305324
the grenade launcher emplacement still fucks up squids hard. It fucks up voteless, it fucks up overseeers, it fucks up fleshmobs. It's not great vs harvesters but whatever. You can kill those with something else. The only problems are that it only has a 180 degree field of fire, and the game likes to spawn voteless 5 meters behind you in cities.

>>528305149
Genre off-shoot of drum and bass with some dashes of post rock, happy hardcore and electronica. Thematically centered around CRT crunched 90s anime OVAs and old gaming devices like the PS1.

>>528305879
Breakcore has for too many roots dipped into the early 90s to be considered "zoomer" music. It's specifically birthed around the early 30s age group.

>>528301857
>Liveleak
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v4EpidcV7Bw

>>528303282
>you: I hate the frequency and volume of these things on higher difficulties
>them: those things are all less frequent and fewer in number, if they appear at all, on lower difficulties
that's what's actually happening

>>528306061
I dislike them from a game design and aesthetics standpoint

>>528305007
How do expect anyone to see throught this bullshit war full of rigging and esoteric mechanics?

>>528306061
good afternoon saar

>>528305364
The Blob struggles to liberate a single planet at 1% decay rate within 24 hours unless the DSS is there. This MO was asking the players to liberate four and a half planets at 3% starting decay rate, within five days. It's basically a rerun of the last squid MO where Joel asked us to liberate four planets in four days, with two of them starting at 3-3.5% decay and then everything eventually dropping down to 1% over time. It simply isn't possible unless you get 80% of the player base on the planet constantly, and everyone donating samples to max out the DSS effects instantaneously.

The simple truth of the matter is that not only does Joel suck at math, but these squid MOs are scripted losses.

does the extra 25 armour added to unflinching help it reach any breakpoints

>>528306061
>>528304386
It's the watchers. Shoot the watchers. Fleshmob spam can only happen if the team fails to kill the watchers.

>>528302683
That is not what I'm experiencing.
It will not resume normal firing operations until I find a different weapon all together.

>>528306172
See >>528305302

>>528306286
I wouldn't be surprised if they expected 80-90% of the playerbase to flock to squids again like during the Super Earth invasion. Which would've made the MO possible.

>>528306402
yeah

>>528306402
>breakpoints
This isn't some competitive MOBA bullshit, you fucking moron. Survivability is survivability, all it does is make you a bit harder to kill while not penalizing your stamina or sprint speed. The question you should be asking yourself is, do you use the map radar feature and like the extra armor and resistance to aim punch enough to use the armor over whatever other passive you might otherwise use.

>>528306861
>Survivability is survivability, all it does is make you a bit harder to kill
>wear armor with 50 armor rating
>get 2 shot by a warrior
>wear armor with 75 armor rating
>still get 2 shot by a warrior
what value, then, is the 25 extra armor rating? if it doesn't actually make you harder to kill then what is the point of it?

>>528307179
Well for one, the 125 armor doesn't get two shot by warriors.

>>528304625
For me? It's 825hp

https://youtu.be/v0ZLguFSlc0?si=acfbRWwAbMgtMQh3

>>528307469
but regular 100 armour rating armour doesn't get two shot by warriors either

someone post one of these korean automaton waifubait waifus

>>528306861
>i get REALLY REALLY MAD when people take the game i like a little more serious that i'd like.

>>528307179
That extra 25 armor comes in handy when you get ragdolled so that you don't die on impact.

>you can face-fuck hulks with the new shock nade launcher in less than half a mag
I love this thing more every day

Theres taking the game seriously and being an autist.

>>528306861
brown

>>528303149
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243575621488/76561198126520852
crashed, new lobby.

Protip: walk leisurely away from you enemies until they die.

>>528304625
>>528307481
Insanely based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beoNy4MMHTc

>>528307179
You're making the assumption that you're always going to be at full HP in every encounter, you're always going to be facing exactly one enemy on flat ground with no obstructions, you won't take any damage to limbs that will affect all of your other actions, and you won't try to stim off the damage at any point.

Stop trying to optimize shit and just play the fucking game. Yes, the extra armor rating will make you take less damage, but it's a fool's errand to try to anticipate exactly what it will help you survive. Will taking explosive damage cause you to consider instead wearing Fortified or Ballistic Padding? Is the 4 less armor rating compared to B-24 Enforcer going to be a deal breaker?

>>528308239
>that last, desperate delayed shot on the eye to kill it
KINO

>>528308039
you peaked at videogames years and now you get mad at people who disrupt your 'comfy' gaming by using their heads. im sure if i control-f'd your entire chat history you've said 'casual' like a thousand times.

>Projecting

>>528304386
The thing is that you are 100% correct and I agree with you completely, but the execution is so bad that the game would be better without them because they work with all of the new units in the exact same way, and all of them would be substantially less threatening without at least one giant sponge to distract you. Probably why you can't blow their legs off either, it would make them pointless.
This is all in preparation for stealth attachments and stratagems. If you'll notice, every new enemy is specifically catered toward making getting seen as punishing as possible. Indirect fire, flying enemies that pursue you aggressively, even the bugs have the devency to circle you first.

Nice of da princess to invites us ovah for a picnic, gay luigi?

>>528308720
I do not think that stealth attachments would do a lick to help us. It doesn't matter if 99% of the squids see us. It matters if a watcher sees us and has time to take a photo. We don't need to hide from watchers. We just need to shoot them.

this stupid mangrove planet is actually easier to drive on than any other planet ive tried so far.

>>528308239
>>528307481
how can you listen to this shit

>>528306527
I've said it before, this game is in big trouble if the rest of the squids as well as any future bot and bug units won't be a bit more interesting than the great host cringe.

>>528309951
Hits different when you're locked in.

>>528309951
at least they got over their hideki naganuma phase.

>>528307481
I generally don't like to listen to music while helldiving since sound can be an important way to keep yourself alive but when I'm just farming SC I tend to listen to stupid shit like this
https://youtu.be/rTeVz6rP6r4?si=yfQVDrc0LlxKnq4g

if you can't handle squids at their zombie slop state you don't deserve them at their mystery niggas state

illum divers are so hot

>>528309875
Check "enable high quality mode", 3.9mb file size limit, and try to set the highest bitrate possible without going over the limit when you make a webm, anon.

when I helldive I listen to the gran turismo soundtrack :)

>>528309970
The leaked footage of squids looks DIMENSIONS more interesting than what we have. To the point it makes me question what the hell's the point of current squids

>>528310268
i always use high quality and 3.9, i leave the kb/s blank though.

>>528310268
>>528310410
it's a 51 second webm
it shouldn't exist at all

>>528309875
the trees stop you from getting cocky

I wish there were a reason to binge this game again, new ship upgrades could do it, it's been so long...

>>528310489
ive seen 2 min long webms of game footage at higher res be perfectly clear. wemb4retards just requires esoteric knowledge

>Zoomer cant find enjoyment unless hes on "da grind!!!"

The orbital airburst is complete shit and has no purpose in the game.

>>528310696
the esoteric knowledge is
>not a lot of moving elements, like the fucking rain, grass or everything else that may and will fuck with the bitrate
that's it

>>528310318
>To the point it makes me question what the hell's the point of current squids
AH is probably trying to figure out how to balance the chaff and mid level stuff before they add in the hi level stuff.

>>528310681
Have you not been leveling your weapons?

any leaks on what the next ship upgrades will be?

>favorite cape
>doesn't match any armors I like
pain

>>528310806
It's an orbital shotgun and the input code is nice and snappy. I like it.

Why are weapon levels locked and don't go infinite?

>>528311212
He literally doesn't play the game so he wasn't aware of the customize system. He's probably not even in the thread anymore, and won't be for another few months, when he'll return to make the same post and leave again

>>528311519
same reason why there's a cap on medals
so you don't grind out future content in advance

>>528311501
It fails to kill anything even when the beacon is right on top of a a group of enemies. It does not fucking work.

>>528311640
I think this happened after Heart of Democracy, before it would rape anything near it and now the burst is too spread out which leads to it missing.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243579071037/76561198023232654

lobby decides

>>528310132
Naganuma literally hasn't been relevant since Ollie King.

>>528309951
If you don't like that, you're either <20 or >45, no inbetween.

>>528312101
full

i humbly request your finest webms

>>528312310
2 slow I guess..... :(

>>528311402
Yes. They showed them (accidentally?) In the heart of democracy stream

>Pounces you

>>528312515
I know they did that, but what are they, what bonuses do they give?

>>528312515
Upgrade pictures were leaked a year ago already.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243577743780/76561198001481307 d10 predator bugs in super cities

>>528312412

>>528312412

>>528298868
wow, that's genius. we should build an entire faction around this

>>528312412

>>528306861
I was just asking chill, i was rocking the bloodhound and chud armour before any of the changes to unflinching

>>528312669
Fitting >>528312548

where do you get the lobby link?

>>528240428
pimp my gun

>>528312659
full

>>528312659
>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243577743780/76561198001481307
fvll?

>>528312659
stop filling up so fast goddamn

If you dive from a great height, do you take less damage?

>bro I called in the pelican but you weren't supposed to get on it gosh you're so darn stoopid

>>528313089
yeah, up to no damage at all if you land on your backpack

>>528313145
hope xe sees this bro

>>528312412
people shit on the arc thrower for being a TK machine but exploding crossbow cunts are ten times worse and they don't even fucking know it

>>528312412

>>528313362
>Medic armour
>Not using stim pistol
Deserved.

>>528312412

>>528313458
pretty sure it wasn't out yet

>>528312895
Go to your steam profile page. Right click and copy link on the join game button.

Is there something about ballistic sidearms (besides Senator) I'm not getting? Their mags are too small to be effective, they don't do enough damage, and you're not allowed to hit anything beyond 10m. Why wouldn't you use a GP, Ultimatum, Loyalist, melee weapon, the new Dredd pistol, or Senator every time?

>>528312412

>>528312412

>>528313651
Verdict or peacemaker if you're all about 1337 xtreme skillshots i.e. sweaty tryharding
anything else if you play for fun

>>528311640
It used to have a tighter radius and would reliably splatter everything within the AOE. Then they "buffed" it by increasing the radius without increasing the number of cluster munitions within the radius. So now it is unreliable against enemies but might splatter any helldivers within 50m.

Just use the superior orbital gatling instead
>but the code
Is just you spinning your fingers around the directional buttons like a spinning gatling gun.

>>528313685
what the fuck

>>528313651
Talon mogs most of those most of the time

>>528311501
more like orbital birdshot. They should double the shrapnel in the airburst, maybe it'd consistently kill chaff then.

>>528314093
Also a way better choice, forgot about that one.

>>528313902
Verdict is good precisely because it's not hard to use. Just mag dump whatever is nibbling you.

>>528314335
Why though if I can just yeet a GP or Loyalist charge at it?

>>528312412
It's been a while since this

>>528314421
that would kill you

>>528310410
Lower the framerate. 30 fps is plenty for a webm for a Mongolian underwater basket weaving forum.

>>528314507
I got my primary for anything close by though.

>>528312412

my urge to use the suicide vest is rising

>>528312412

>>528312412

>>528314487
oh man release impliers were something else
>could instakill you
>or could throw you into low orbit
>unlimited range
>ragdoll fest even if you survived
EoF more like EoS

>>528312412

>>528314852
https://youtu.be/BqpUbD5YDz4?si=GTshNTt7koVqZ4ar

>>528312412

>>528312412

>>528314210
orbital team kill strike
forgot to record it hitting a rock and the shrapnel killing 3 teammates 50m away

do you think we couldve taken the squid planets faster were it not for megacities

>>528312412

please god give the squids more mission types, they're already boring with their unfinished roster but the lack of objective variety is mindnumbing

>>528313685

>>528312412
.

>>528315674

>>528315902
shut up you entitled nazi, you already got 4 new enemies and mega cities

>>528313651
As far as I can tell, they're basically for people who forget that they have a sidearm and who only want a subpar "backup primary" that the use when their primary weapon is completely dry.

Senator has ap4 usecases. Talon is practically a pocket DMR and is the king of quick draws. Dagger is basically a pocket smg for mopping up chaff with some ranged fire damage edge case uses. Loyalist has good AOE/dps potential. GP is for closing bug holes. Ultimatum is for when you want a pocket orbital precision strike.

>>528315674
I hate that my friend who plays this game thinks that airburst is a god tier orbital. I'm pretty sure that it's one of the things that records phantom kills for the big kill counter skull, which makes him think that it's the best. Meanwhile it's constantly splattering teammates and never killing the important targets.

I only use the Reprimand and Verdict.

I am God's strongest 14mm Warrior.

>>528314487

>>528316459

>>528316547
but the verdict and the reprimand both use 12mm rounds, not 14mm....

>>528312412

>>528312412
back when the eruptor was a god cannon

>>528316835
>The gas-operated, semiautomatic P-113 chambers the 14mm "Rapid Deliberation'" the largest centerfire cartridge of any magazine-fed pistol.
Reprimand has the same damage and to be an SMG it has to fire pistol rounds, it fires the same cartridge.

>>528312412

>>528316459
>hear about the alleged malicious shrapnel that ACCIDENTALLY decides to go for helldivers
>think its bullshit, try it out
>almost get killed or TK people outside its effective radius
its not even a good orbital anymore, ever since orbital gatling got buffed. you could throw an airburst on a bug breach and lock it down, now theres no reason not to use gatling or gas.
>>528316835
anon, the verdict tells you its in 14mm when you look at the description.

>>528312412
2

tried the revamped peacemaker and if nothing else it's perfect for taking out voteless legs in one shot. don't know why it sounds like it's got a silencer, though

>>528316853
the good ol' days when gutting striders was still a viable strategy

>>528311453
Matches the peak physique medium armor well

>floor flames used to light you on fire instantly the moment you stepped on them
>Just wanted them removed from flamethrower because that'd finally make it good
>Newest patch, floor flames can't light enemies on fire, and take a good while to light the player on fire

Well shit. This feels a lot better, but it did nerf a lot of fire strats like crisper and napalm nades.

>>528291494
Reprimand no, knight absolutely.

>>528312412

>>528301460
If you're having issue with recoil then you could try running engi kit or something. During the battle for Super Earth that was always my go-to; just dig in with the HMG set to max ROF and hope I won the staring contest. It was about 50/50 on whether I would die to the wreck though.

>>528303696
They're probably bony but supple, like newgrown deer antlers.

>>528301460
Run out of the way before you start shooting bro

>>528317361
It's a bit too clean cut and formal for how rough around that edges that armor is, but the color does, yeah. It's hard for me to run anything that isn't the matching cape for that set too, with that neck shawl thing that matches it.

>>528317017
I've tried to get him to try gatling and gas. He thinks that both are F-tier unusable useless garbage somehow. He doesn't trust his eyes. He trusts the damned kill counter skull. I suspect that airburst is counting it's kills multiple times for that counter, or that it's bursts are just good at snagging killing blows where gatling and has leave more room for friendlies to snag the killing blow since they pump out damage steadily over time instead of putting out spikes of damage.

He also thinks that strafing run an unusable joke stratagem. I don't have the right words to knock sense into him.

>>528306407
>*calls in reinforcements from behind a four story building*
Nothin personnel, diver

>>528315674
Shits funny.
Honestly airburst is pretty good on bots in my experience, it's kinda like a better Gatling.

Personally wish they just split the airburst into 4 charges and gave it like a 20 second cool down per charge. Maybe narrow the cone a bit and have some bullshit gyro projectile like weighted or some shit, so it's able to freely rotate and point at the ground before airbursting.

>>528316979
>>528317017
but the actual projectile assigned to it is 12mm. They're also called different things.

Anyone down to host SC farm?

>>528312412

>>528303282
I mean
If difficulty only modifies spawn rate, and you're not having fun with the spawn rate...

I've occasionally lowered the difficulty when I want to try new builds, but I like high difficulty squids with mobility builds. They punish you for taking fights, so you gotta keep running and gunning.

>>528318372
i'd join an SC farm lobby
not sure if any of the arrow mods are still working though

>>528318267
>bacon flavored apples detected
tomorrow is a sunday but as god is their witness, this will be fixed before the end of tomorrow

>>528303221
Feels p2w at points.
Same with the gas nades. Like sure they solve the problem, but it feels dirty using em. Granted gas is worse by a wide margin because it just trivializes everything.

>>528318563
They are

>>528305324
Only problem is that they're bugged.
Same with melee.

>>528317151
After using the warrant endlessly I could never touch the peace maker.

D10 lobby decides
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243585409740/76561198027910192

>fleshmob piles
>voteless ceaselessly lunging at you and spawning behind your back, clipping through buildings and destroyed spawners to run at you constantly
>observers with hair triggers spotting you for 0.05 seconds before initiating reinforcement calls
>elevated overseer(s) are just accurate enough to fuck with you
>the moment you try to hold ground the THUNK THUNK THUNK of mortar fire begins
>leviathans firing at you from 200m away because fuck you

>>528319651
mod?

Which language should I play this game in? The one with the most Kino dub

Y'know, pacifier doesn't seem that bad when you value not getting shot over killing something .
Been using it with jet pack builds, and it usually lets me get in, buy time, do what I need to ,.get out.

It's especially useful on bots because I'm guaranteed to stun shit. Break points could use an improvement though, like even using it efficiently you're doing worse than the guy shooting torso with AP3.

>>528319651
sabrina sex

>>528319762
I privately comissioned conversion of SPAS gfl2 model to hd2. It's gonna be public very soon. There are some issues here and there.
Also we FVLL

>>528319713
I just take greens to aliens to draw aggro for me. Made my experience drastically better. Most squid units can't do shit to buildings, and you can focus the ones that can.

>>528319651
FVLL

>>528318540
I see a lot of rundivers just running until their teammates clean up their messes for them.

>>528320327
>pouncer seed
>see one of our teammates just constantly running away from pouncers pressuring him
>shoot them off him a couple times
>watch him spin around and eruptard himself on two pouncers

/hdg/ team is playing vs /pg/ AFTER the next match.
~40 min + setup time.
tune in at
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
to watch /ourboys/ job hard or rape.

>>528320327
>Get shit done n complete the mission
>Timmy in a corner drawing all aggro with his nigger annihilator setup is having a fun time
Sounds like a healthy game.

>>528320692
Have we won anything yet

>>528320826
nope, but we're on track to win the spoon award.
which signifies the WORST team in the entire tournament

>>528320598
In his mind the extra pouncers just despawned due to his running. He doesn't realize that you carried his ass.

>>528320826
>>528320938
We won sovl.
All our characters are inside jokes and culture surrounding the game.
The weeb shit is just pedo-bait.

>>528320826
Hearts and minds.
But no games

I take it all back.

Illuminids are fuckin easy. Its the randos that can't kill an overseer and get overrun by tripods that are fucking trash

>>528313651
for idiots that fell for noob trap specialist primaries like the medpen DMRs and need a cope gun that can be somewhat relied on when their shit capacity primary fails them which is pretty much always

>>528321168
the organizers were talking about giving /hdg/ best aesthethics award.

wow the 2x scope for the defender smg fills up your entire screen.

>>528321168
this

>>528310758
The children. They yearn for the mines.

>>528310758
>lived through 20 years of new slang terms
>gets mad when the generation after them starts making slang terms

>>528321363

>>528321168
the models also looks awesome in comparison to the other boards

>Zoomers mad they cant enjoy something for the sake of it
Imagine being this mindbroken by corpos.

>>528321759
sadly millennials who are now approaching the sweet age of 40 were the last generation with somewhat of a culture of their own

>>528320692
we play at home? i what to see the /hdg/ field

>>528321759
>>528321909
>in your mid 30s
>circlejerk about how much cooler you are than children

>>528322156
yep.

>>528322202

>>528322156
new stadium curse = /hdg/ loses

>>528322202
it's not like we weren't lame, just not nearly as lame as this.

>>528308720
Interlopers know where you are at all times so stealth is pointless. Leviathans probably operate in a similar way and slowly gravitate to player positions regardless of the shitty spotlight.

>>528313651
There's some use cases.

>AP3 ones like verdict or talon can pair with ap2 primaries on bugs
>When you're support weapon isnt a damage supplement like recoiless, pistols are extremely nice depending on your primary.
>Bushwacker has a nice niche to it with the stagger.
>Talon is just generally an amazing side arm due to it effectively reloading itself.
>A lot of drum weapons like jar have abysmal reload speeds, and pistols are solid for killing chaff efficiently. Even more so than the warrant

Most pistols also lose all sway the moment you crouch. I usually run revolver, and just crouch and headshot elevated overseers.

>>528322354
NTA but this is so profoundly sad to me. I caught just about the tail end of the era of original games and now it's sequel remake remaster reboot or fucking trend-chasing extraction shooter/battle royale slop.
The only new games come from indie devs, which feels like such a tremendous waste.

>>528322543
bots are the only faction with non-bullshit detection and awareness mechanics, possibly excluding mortars

>>528322354
The indie scene more than makes up for the AAA slop. Everyone these days has a home computer, with 100 dollars you could get your kid a sizeable steam catalogue and set them for life.

>>528321909
here's your millenial culture bro. WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB!
Justin Roiland's a millenial right? Eh who gives a fuck

>>528322649
>a tremendous waste
fitting title for our age
all the wars, all the economic woes, all the crab-in-the-bucket, asshole contest cultural rot, all of it wouldn't have to happen if people decided to be more disciplined and hateful towards degeneracy

>>528322354
I remember when people were blown away by Crysis graphics.

>>528313651
They are secondary weapons. You should be wielding your secondary at most ~10% of the time. Having a small mag is not a problem if all you need is to evaporate whatever stalker is on your ass so you can reload your primary.

non-utility secondary weapon niches go as follow, in order of most to least important:
Senator: Senator
AAAAAAAAA KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT: Verdict, Talon; relatively high DPS, very spammable weapons, AP3
Chaff clear when your primary or support isn't great for that; redeemer, crisper, peacemaker
melee: melee
doodoofeces without reasonable use case: bushwacker

>>528323013
>oh yeah bro just play shovelware gaming is le saved
lol

>>528322786
>cannon turret decides to just snipe you from 200 meters
>super fortress brothers turret decides to whack you out of nowhere
m-muh bots

>>528323410
Crysis mogged in more ways than graphics - and in some ways still do.
It features a highly interactable experience with destructible environments and physic-based systems. AI is also impressive compared to the garbage we get today.

>>528322354
>popular slop for boomers
>popular slop for zoomers
whats the difference

>>528322354
It's unreal how stagnant videogames are, the only thing that's getting bigger are the prices and filesizes

>>528322354
disingenuous. you could have put oldschool runescape in all three millennial panels

>>528323618
200 meters is basically cqc range. Why would you get that close to a turret without destroying it?

>>528323410
it still mogs most 3xA games

>>528323689
>Multiple games and genres for Millenials
>Fortslop for zoomrs for 10 years
>"Its the same, btw"

>>528323689
>medium-defining titles
that shit was prime cut digital crack and made games what you know them as today

>>528323447
Honestly they could get away with doubling the damage of the bushwacker. Or just halving the reload speed.
It's FUN with cowboy armor, but the fun shouldn't be armor locked.

>>528322354
I remember server browsers. I remember loading custom tga files as sprays. Now everything is matchmaking slop, big brother is watching your chat history, and people are paying money for Karen approved sprays.

>>528323618
Gunships and factory striders also seem to have obscenely high visibility radius.

>>528324175
>people are paying money for Karen approved sprays
there's a whole gambling industry for the Karen sprays (and five minute gun texture mods) anon

>>528321391
>most sovlful game on the board
how did we do it bros
how did manager-kun convey it so well?

>>528322354
>selects the most popular games of their time
>completely ignoring the ocean of dogshit that existed, because...it wouldnt fit her narrative
>"but htur hudhru hfkasdj at least its not FORTNITE...heh...hegh..."
Lets ignore other games that came out in the past 10 years, like HELLDIVERS 2, Battlefield 1, Monster Hunter World / Rise / Whatever the fuck is now recent, MGS V, the actual uprise of Payday 2, Deep Rock Galactic
Just to name a few.

History is a flat fucking circle, niggers will go on about how MUH TIMES WAS BETTUH while wearing their nostalgia glasses, ignoring that the current times are more important to focus on than whatever happened in the past.

>>528323472
>indie
>shovelware
some (particularly liberal slop story games) might be, but this is a much more apt qualifier to what comes out of AAA these days

There are tons of great indie games to come out in the last 10 years. Rimworld, Undertale, Deltarune, A hat in time, Hollow knight, kenshi, Noita, Oneshot, project wingman... probably more but these are the ones I have in my steam library

>>528324251
you can smack down gunships with ease from an actual kilometer away if visibility allows. you can kill them with your revolver, oneshot them with a primary gun. their weapons are useless. if you also make them blind and deaf you might as well turn them into noninteractive skybox shit.

>>528307782

>>528324629
Ye you can, It's more a point about how inconsistent their detection is

>>528324251
>Gunships
Just prone bro, how are gunships even real. They have ridiculous hearing as in, hearing you moving when prone if above you but they are blind as a bat if by themselves, patrols are a non issue.

>>528324519
whats annoying is that millennials absolutely know better but are still willingly becoming just as hypocritical as their parents.

>>528323618
Honestly I've never been merked by a cannon turret without either fucking something up myself or getting screwed by a squad member.

I thought the bunker turrets were bullshit for a long time (and sorta still do) but I wasn't aware you could blast them off with AT.

Hey /hdg/, the divegrass team is about to kick off against Persona General in a couple of minutes

https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

>>528320692
We're up next!
get in faggits

>>528324802
Humans are a product of their environment, anon. You cant blame the monkey for trying to beat other monkeys with a stick if thats what papa and mama monkey did, because it never got taught to know better.

>>528324984
Let's fucking go, at least give a last show before oblivion.

>>528324796
Its more the spawners, if you take a shot. Regardless of alerting anything. It will barf out a gunship that instantly knows where you are.

>>528324684
this is her now
would have worked better with the other one but it's fine I got tired of waiting

>>528325094
Ah well, that's the usual titan spawner for example is just an UAV.

>>528324984
chat loves us

Memes aside, what are the practical uses?

>>528325474
Super Jihad.
Run into the middle of a swarm of enemies and boom, 50-100 kills and situation defused.

>>528307782

>>528325474
its a hellbomb that doesn't require you to do a hadouken first.

>>528325474
making jammers, detectors, gunship fabs, and cannon missions easier on the timer and reinforcement budget
not super much of a point on squids or bugs other than killwhoring which is gay and boring

>>528325474
it's fun and I like it

>>528325474
I wish that it had a shorter cooldown

>>528325474
run up to the stratagem jammer and skip all the steps to disable it
can speed up destroying gunship fabricators, orbital cannons, anything that would require calling in a hellbomb
yeet it at a reinforcement drop, call it a day.

>>528324980
help it's just a black screen

>>528325474
>https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
Detonating strat jammers without needing to disable them & call a hellbomb in
Detonating gunship fab without needing to call a hellbomb in
Detonating an orbital cannon without needing to call a hellbomb in
Detonating the illuminate monolith without needing to call a hellbomb in
(all of the above are much safer, faster and more versatile alternatives than using the normal hellbomb)
running into a bug base, dropping it and running out, closing ~8 bug holes instantly, including titan holes
running into a bot drop, dropping it and killing just about everything on it

>>528325474
Stealth builds.

If I'm doing a scouting build on bots I take hellbomb pack and jetpack. Find a jammer and just dump it off next to it and leave.
It's honestly really convenient on bots as a problem solver, and when I link up with the team I typically can sneak under the bot drop before it arms and prime the hell bomb. Then I just do this on repeat for the entire mission.

If you don't take a backpack and feel confident with your loadout, it's also probably one of the best slots for just a fuck this.
Also great for monoliths.

>>528324980
>>528325926
Guess I'll have to watch it on tw*tch

>>528325474
1) It's kino
2) I love it
3) It makes several objectives much easier
4) Run away from a fubar situation in style
5) It's really fun to sacrifice yourself for a slight gain

hdg is home team

>>528324519
>MUH TIMES WAS BETTUH
Yes, it was. Now shut up and downloard your 50 gigabyte one day patch and decide which flavor of smear you want your visuals to have.

>>528304386
>watchers are both extraordinarily rare and extraordinarily conspicuous with their disco lights.
Are people like you playing a different game?
I keep hearing this claim that watchers are very rare, that squids are easy because they never get reinforcements because it's so easy to pop the occasional watcher that shows up.

Yet when I play watchers are one of the most common enemies. Not only are they common, I very frequently encounter watchers traveling in pairs or even occasionally groups of three, or occasionally even watchers converging upon your position from multiple directions.

How can watchers be rare yet I routinely see them flying in pairs?

After disabling mouse smoothing the gun play (and frames) improved dramatically for me. Are there any other settings I should fuck with?

>>528326243
>50 gigabyte one day patch

yeah with your 40mb/s internet and your 50 dollar 5tb M2 drive.

>>528325234
no...

>>528326440
Who the fuck allows mouse smoothing to be on in the first place?

>>528326243
>it was better, because...it just was!!! shut up!!!
SHUT UP, GRANDMA, TAKE YOUR PRUNE JUICE

>>528324980
Manager-kun,
Can you make the ball slightly off the origin point so it constantly bounces around a bit as it rolls?
Also, I would've loved to see the players who haven't played yet in this match since the team is already dead so conditions don't really matter.

You think they're ever going to add faces?

So what setting do I have to change so objects aren't doing this?

>>528328275
anti aliasing

>>528326198
it's over

>>528325474
The better question is, what aren't the practical uses?

>destroys objective buildings, no questions asked
>kills any enemy within range of the explosion, no questions asked
>25 meter death radius, no questions asked

While it is true that it's most useful against bots due to how their bases and reinforcement waves work, it's still super useful against the rest. You can kill 90% of a Heavy Bug Nest and everything in it, leaving just one or two grenade tosses to finish it off. You can instantly delete a Cognitive Disruptor to alleviate one of the biggest headaches squids can put out on the map, you can make a single entryway to a Monolith and remove it instantly, and so on.

>>528326198
actually fuck off with this if you're going to make us a laughing stock

>>528326439
Are you just really fucking bad at math or something?
>Bugs
Every single scavenger, warrior, pouncer, hive guard, and alpha commander has the capacity to call for backup. If you don't kill all of those targets within the opening moments of an engagements, then one of them will quickly call for backup. You can fight hundreds of enemies in each match that are capable of calling for backup. Maybe a thousand+ in longer matches. Also, in any fight near bug holes, it is possible for a fresh bug to spawn and call for backup with its first breath. Often you can't even stop the reinforcement call because they're behind a rock or something.
>bots
It's just the marauder enemies that can call for bot drops, but there can still be a dozen or so of them in a patrol. Like the bugs, nearby fabricators can create marauders that can call for backup as their first action in life. The bots also have big fuckoff huge eyes of sauron objectives designed around calling in reinforcements against anyone within hundreds of meters of the objective. You can still end up killing multiple hundreds of marauders over the course of a match. Again, like the bugs, often you can't stop the drop because the marauder is inside their base or behind cover of some sort.
>squids
The only thing that can call for backup are watchers. There's often one flitting about, but sometimes they move in PAIRS!!!91!. I've even seen THREE of them at once before. They announce their presence with their disco lights, and need to fly within ~30m to take a photo of you. They hover up above most obstructions that would have hidden a scavenger.

Watchers can not spawn from UFOs and call for backup with their first action because they do not spawn from UFOs. You might see a few dozen, maybe 50+ watchers, over the course of a mission.

Reinforcements are practically facts of life vs bugs and bots, but it is realistic to completely cuck squids out of reinforcements if people just pay the fuck attention.

JOHN HELLDIVER GOT A SCORE!

John Helldiver is my hero

>>528328275
Double check what resolution you have it at too. Are you sure that's your monitor's native resolution?

>>528328428
5 minute cooldown makes it impractical to use against just enemy formations which is sad.

DESTROY JOEL

FUCKING JOEL RUINED IT ALL

Democracy has fallen

>>528319651
3/4 again last hop in!!!

Launch Joel into the gloom.

So when do we give Joel the ol' concrete boots and throw him in the Ganghes?

>3 games
>3 losses
Just like in the war

>>528305007
>people have been complaining about dogshit liberation rates all year
>makes them infinitely worse right afte bungling the SE defense
What the fuck is AHs problem?
why can't they just let people capture planets outside of MOs for fucking once
the only time we do it's when there is no MO and there's no invasions

>>528329314
s-SHUT UP

What are some """"classes""" to this game that aren't just different flavors of shooting.

>CC Champ
Just have every CC option available and stop enemies from shooting you and your teammates. Basically gas builds and EMS.

>Sword n Board
Ballistic shield on bugs and illuminate, just take all the aggro while your team clicks stuff off you. Really strong with DOTs because you just put everything on a timer and you wait it out.

>Scouting / Stealth
Run around, find all POIs on the map. Sniping them with nukes and early marking things like stalker layers. Then taking backshots on enemy units when your team pulls all the aggro.

>Recon
Not so much a build, and not really built into currently. But marking targets and watching the map to make call outs. Pretty close to stealth, but its more active fights.

>Medic
>meme

Any I missed?

>>528326198
JOEL!!!

>>528326198
Next time we will do better

Managed democracy has spoken, we must kill Joel.

>>528329426
I'm partial to
>Nukediver
hellbomb backpack, 380 barrage, 500kg, OPS
if you don't have a massive explosion happening every 30 seconds, you're doing it wrong

>>528329606
>Accepts death
>Survives

>>528329061
>Are you sure that's your monitor's native resolution
Yeah I'm still rocking the 830x351

>>528329426
heavy weapons guy / demolition diver
large calibers and explosives only

>>528319651
ggs
>>528319762
apparently he uploaded it at last
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5940

>>528327015
I just gave you 2 reasons in the post you responded to.
Zoomers are a lost cause.

>>528329750
I hope we have replacementes for him and sugarcoat next time, they were both jobbing every single match

god i love open field combat

All the webms really shows how small tweaks to a biome can make it feel very different. Tweak the lighting, add some fog, slightly different vegetation and skybox and boom, completely different feeling. Arrowhead did a pretty good job when it comes to making the planets feel unique and I've yet to find any major faults with the procedurally generated maps which is surprising.

AIEEEEEEEEEE WE'RE THE BIGGEST JOBBERS ON THE BOARD

owari da...

>>528330336
I blame Sweden

poast lobby

>>528329780
>>528330082
based.
while I'd say it's more a build than a "class", barrage spam is really satisfying.
120 honestly has some solid chip too for heavies, and paired with support weapons you can give your team a lot of easy breakpoints.

>WoodChipper
Soften up heavies for easy cleanup by allies.

>Nukediver
Blow up POIS and board clear.

I also recommend this mod if you want a beefier barrage. I disabled the 500 KG.
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5781?tab=description

Scythefags, what's the best upgrade for the heatsink? Heard it's better to fire longer now since the fire DOT buffs over a shitty cooldown. Apparently the buffs it gives is worse than the bigger magazine

>>528330451
Super owari da...

>>528330247
rep guns and resupplying mechs could elevate this game so much, i hate swedes

>>528325926
It doesn't work on brave for some reason, hasn't worked since yesterday

>>528330636
Fuck. That explains it.

>>528330292
>I've yet to find any major faults with the procedurally generated maps which is surprising.
yeah I've had like 2 bad gens in the 1000 hours I've played. Which is fucking insane.

>>528330543
bigger heat sink. Even the contrarian fag in our group couldn't defend the shorter cooldown. It'll be amazing tho once we get double edging.

>>528330093
>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5940
Bro forget the skin this is the most embarrassing part what the fuck is THIS

>>528330636
>>528330735
i just opened it on brave and it worked fine

>>528286276 (OP)
>Doing D9 bots in the snowbox with my level 30 friends
I also learned the swedes broke the hug emote and it kicks you back to your ship if you accept a hug

>>528330876
you pressed the return to ship button next to the cryo tubes

>>528330834
Because right now there's the wraslin side event which is streamed on youtube and yt embeds work fine. The vgl is streamed on twitch and brave has been blocking twitch embeds.
It's easy to get around by opening the twitch stream on another tab and using PiP to overlay it on the cytube page where it should normally be, anyway.

>>528330543
Double capacity heatsink and angled foreskin

>>528330876
>He fell for the oldest trick in the book

>>528330247
Same

How often is divegrass anyway? Once a year?

>>528331303
Twice.

>>528330876
Ah, to be level 18 again.

>>528331298
PS2 looks so cool, too bad the actual gameplay is getting farmed by aircraft 90% of the time

>>528330876
>tasteful fog via blizzards
>environmental hazards are simple but effective
>natural and unnatural cover
snow maps are peak

>>528331534
It's better than it used to be but yeah, there was a phase of the game where liberators and ESFs were way too strong at anti-infantry. Killed the game's pop, in retrospect.

Favorite sight?
Trying to figure out which of the short sights I like the most.
4x is easilly my favorite ADS sniping scope, but I can't really say I'm partial to any of the reflex/holo sights.

>>528331654
his fault for not already having that dev killed desu

>>528331654
Look out

>>528330543
The larger heatsink is superior. The spin up delay cucks any chance of the hastened cooldown option being competitive. This would be different if the swedes were intelligent and would have combined a removal of the spin up delay when using the +cooldown rate heatsink. But the swedes don't play their game above d5.

lobby doko?

>>528331069
I wear I was far enough away, I was on the stairs
>>528331371
124 actually

>>528328275
This just happens when you turn the AA off at 1080p. Idk why but it's preferable to having the game look like smeared paint I guess.

COME ON HDG
SCORE SOME FUCKING GOALS

>>528332025
your diver is starting to become more automaton like, is there something you wanna tell us?

>>528332025
holy sex

>>528331298
>attacking VS
it's a good thing this webm doesn't show what happened to the TR

>>528329750
Done.

As I told the streamer, I'm sorry I couldn't get any wins.
I really wanted to hear that anthem but I guess life just says no.
I hope you enjoyed the models, music, placeholder stadium (I had something more grandiose in mind but couldn't be done in time) and you had some entertainment from the matches.
Hopefully next VGL will go better.
t. Manager

>>528332025
stupid robot...

>>528328323
>>528331906
>>528329061
I play at 1440p at native resolution with AA disabled. I turned off AA when the character model started shimmering in that weird way after an update a while back. Do I really have to turn it back on so models aren't loading in their low poly versions up close?

>>528331665
I was there when this shitshow launched, back when there was no reward for doing AA damage, vehicle kills gave you less XP than killing a dude and asshole pilots would jump out, deconstruct their ESF and /suicide just to spite you while pods had an AoE half the size of a base
God I hate ESFs and Libs. God I hate how garbage AA is because muh deterrent that's only allowed to kill braindead pilots.

>>528317151
They fucked up weapon sounds since last patch. The Quasar has went from being mute to now not firing at all. The Stim pistol is also silent

>>528331874
>124 actually
Same shit really, you're not considered human before level 150 around here. But thats okay.

>>528328275
turn on AA, use your cards internal AA, use reshade AA, or bump your res to at least 1440.

>>528332025
there is nothing helldivers about this

>>528331534
The high time to kill ruined this game. It devolved the combat into just having big outfits zerging blobs at each other Zapp Brannigan style. Would have been 100 times better if the TTK was more like red orchestra where one guy with a heavy machinegun would wreck an arbitrarily large blob of guys fucking about in an open field with no cover like that.

>>528331303
You can check this page for more info in general
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League

>>528332202
Yeah they got sucked off by the tranu sovergayty and NSFW isn't allowed on /vg/

>>528332264
I remember when they finally added certs for doing AA work, good times with the boys.

>>528331654
Zap!
- Storm Spirit

>>528332025
Stop avatar fagging.

>>528332025
Go back to /pso2g/

>>528332250
use your card's aa or reshade. Anything is better than the default TAA because AH chose the worst version of TAA that is blurry dogshit.

>>528332304
I'd be 150 but I can't stop playing RoN and Squad

>>528330754
spas-12

>>528332025
Can you please kill yourself

>>528332241
you did good, anon
thank you for your hard work

>>528332025
You should try making a bug or squid girl next

thoughts on this video?
Kinda impressive how well the visuals hold up even when the game gets dilluted like this.
https://youtu.be/x6x69yRmIYA?si=IUAkDP9bvOh79aQ9

>>528332148
He's already told us. He has an autistic backstory about how she was the project of a dissident scientist couple and has been co-opted by Super Earth to live-die-repeat as a Helldiver as recompense for her creators' undemocratic ways.

Not that I can really throw any shade about autism. Honestly I really miss dumb OC culture cause it's kinda neat to see what headcanons other people come up with as long as it doesn't descend into powerwank.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243594685129/76561198018575476
I'm feeling like some bots 10. Come join!

>>528332241
can you make the away kit the cheesediver armor?
i will tune in next league if youre fielding the team again

>>528332250
Your options are Reshade AA or 1440p supersampled. Maybe 4k native res assuming the game allows you to select it like it does on my end, even though I'm using a 1440p monitor. Doesn't fuck with the window scaling or anything as long as I'm on borderless fullscreen.

>>528328525
>Every single scavenger, warrior, pouncer, hive guard, and alpha commander has the capacity to call for backup. If you don't kill all of those targets within the opening moments of an engagements, then one of them will quickly call for backup
Except it's ridiculously easy to kill those chaffs units within the opening moments of an engagement t if people pay attention, so it works both ways. Literally all you have to do is interrupt their animation and you cancelled their reinforcement.

A unit that you routinely see traveling in groups leading patrols is not a rare unit. Is a hulk a rare unit? Watcher's aren't rare, and this idea that you can magically shut down every watcher patrol 100% of the time but struggle blowing through chaff bots and bugs before they can call in reinforcements is a joke.

>>528332479
Finally getting paid for doing AA was such a nice thing, before then I did it only fueled by sheer spite

>>528332767
I think its less about the OC nonsense and more so its tied to AI gen.

>>528318065
>thinks that strafing run an unusable joke stratagem
You can't help him.

>>528332929
I wanted to add the other B-01 variants for the match against /smtg/ actually but my computer exploded a few days before that.
It will be done for the next VGL though.

>>528332767
>spoiler
Nta, but I feel that

>>528332721
Unironically a valid way to play if there wasn't visual glitches like invisible mines or the bile spewer projectiles disappearing. Game is clearer than the current game with AA.

>>528332264
I like the AA balance in war thunder better. One hit, even a something minor like a clipped wingtip or damaged control surface can lead to a kill. The "deterrence" is the threat of instant death if you disrespect the AA, and not a slow whittling of HP.

Granted war blunder fucked it up at the very highest tiers where 4th generation fighters + fire and forget weapons are involved. But at lower BRs a talented SPAAG with good aim that is patient enough to wait until planes enter their no-escape zone can swat planes down. Ofcourse the best air defense is still having dedicated fighters flying CAP missions.

>>528333128
god bless
thanks for putting on a show and not making the games 1-1 slurpers
smtg can suck 50 cocks

>>528332845
FVLL, alive thread

>>528332241
Thanks for your hard work Manager.
Could you replace Joel with SEAF squad? (3 guys in SEAF armor sitting on eachothers shoulders)

>>528332241
Petition to add "Lower the difficulty" as a player.

>>528332767
i feel Helldivers is a very strange place for making OCs, considering the constant death they go through. outside of making them a clone/robot how do you make a consistent character

>>528333026
>Is a hulk a rare unit?
Compared to stuff like scavengers/pouncers? Yes. They're much rarer than scavengers.

>>528333254
To be blunt I never got deep into WT. I picked it up to play tanks and stopped it when I got revenge kamikazed by some guy I killed every other match
Fuck CAS. Why does every tank game has an anti-skill class like that? WT has CAS, WoT has artillery. I just wanna drive tanks without getting cheesed to death by shitters that can't shoot straight

>>528332148
>>528332767
My John Helldiver is in a permanent coma on Super Earth with his brain plugged into a remote control, and all the frozen bodies onboard are repurposed bots shoved into damaged Helldiver uniforms. He feels the mental shock of death every time one gets broken
/autism

>>528332241
>>528333353
This idea is genius.

>>528333537
Easy. My OC just won't die. Lady Luck and Lady Liberty is both on his side.

>>528332531
Its been forever since I've heard that. Im actually reinstalling cyberpunk. Summer just gets me in the mood for it
>>528332717
But I like the robot.... I'm also not creative enough to make a squid or bug cute.

>>528333537
You just say they're The Guy, or name them Yossarian, or you make peace with the fact that they're gunna get got on a drop at some point - probably to something stupid - and just haven't yet.

Really the slapstick nature of death in the game probably helps a lot with tamping down on 'my dude is a BAD. ASS.' sort of character wanking since every player has been blown up by dumb bullshit a hundred times. I see loads of OC that just gives the divers a complete blindspot to death since that's the default attitude in-game, excepting when said divers get really protective of SEAF personnel.

what should I as a newer player bring to the squid front? and What about the others? I only have some progress on the one standard warbond.

>>528334085
That's ok, I like the robot too

>>528289465
Based leviathan.

>>528334365
I run autocannon and sentries for squids

>>528333587
We're not talking about compared to, we're talking about across the board. The claim is that watchers patrols are rare. They're not rare. Watchers are a common unit that are routinely encountered roaming around the map.

>>528333537
go the comedy route and have every helldiver act extactly the same
have a helldiver having an argument with someone, die, and the new helldiver that gets reinforced pick up exactly where the other one left off.

>>528334365
Squid overseers have ablative armor. This means you want high firerate guns to peel it off before you can actually damage them. Or you can use any explosive weapon to bypass it.

>>528333512
if it stays relevant until september, it will get in
i'm thinking of "you need more?" as new player as well or a rename of "arrowhead" to it

oh by the way, look up for the /vg/ league friendlies within 2-3 months when we can play again
this time not for stakes, just for phun

>>528334085
Man, I should finish my Cyberpunk playthrough.

>>528334085
Goy.

>>528334365
The MG can handle every enemy besides the Leviathan
Hell, even the liberator can kill everything that isn't a harvester, interloper or leviathan

>>528334365
Medium or heavy pen solves everything on Squids. If you like the MG or HMG and have good recoil control you can kill whatever walks in front of you; Trench Engineer's armor passive helps with doing this as well since it gives recoil reduction. My loadout for Super Earth was
>Trench Engi
>Liberator Carbine
You can take the basic Lib tho, it's just slightly slower RoF
>Secondary of your choice
Default pistol is fine for dealing with a couple voteless and getting time to
reload
>grenade of your choice for killin' ships
>HMG or MG
>supply pack
>eagle strafe
>MG turret or some other AoE clear, I also like 500kg, or orbital laser if I don't trust the squad

General tips
>Overseers (big aliums) have ablative armor; crouch and concentrate on hitting then center mass over and over so you break one section and don't spread damage all over
>fleshmobs have no weak points, dump damage into them until they die
>Harvesters (tripods) are weak where the legs connect to the body, break one connection there and they die. HMG and MG can do this
>Stingray dies to medium pen, just choot 'em

>>528334894
>stays relevant
it will always be relevant as long as people complain about an enemy being "overtuned".
and AH aint nerfing leviathans in the near future
"Lower the difficulty" is basically evergreen
>
any invitationals? like weegee circuit? or is that only in spring?

>>528332241
C'mon man we really need a SEAFie on the roster

Got critiqued by the fashion gods earlier, does this look work together or against itself?

>>528335445
The red on the helmet kinda clashes.

>>528335189
I think they already confirmed more changes were coming for it on trooncord for next week's update but I doubt they will be that significant

>>528335512
fuuuuaaark

>>528333050
I remember when the T2 striker launched and was lock-on instead of dumbfire, there was a whole squad of people at an airbase absolutely obliterating any vehicle that even got close with a steady stream of tiny rockets. that and holding the crown despite having zero other pieces of territory during the beta

>>528335189
>and AH aint nerfing leviathans in the near future
I wonder about that. If they're monitioring the community outside of their hugbox and the low participation in the last two squid MOs they will do something to them.
Honestly I think they just need a complete rework. Ragdoll spam and instant death sucked ass a year ago against bots, and it sucks ass now with the leviathan.

>>528335445
If it wasn't for the red it would work well enough.

>>528335512
>>528335787
Lots of non-red sets have red visor helmets, though.

>>528335189
>any invitationals? like weegee circuit? or is that only in spring?
maybe weegee
nothing certain, we'll have to see
>>528335398
>>528333353
I'll consider it.

>>528335740
bots is still ragdoll spam but its actually fun to play

>>528333081
realistically how many police officers do think it would take to deal with 1 hulk

>>528335916
Ragdoll spam is still annoying, but at least rockets respect cover now unless they're chicken or barrager rockets

>>528335445
Try Deputy helmet

>>528335930
All of them.

>>528335445
This game could really use a dynamic color system.
We don't really need customizable skins, just having a helmet change to match the texture and pallet of the armor would improve fashion diving immediately.
Hell just having the accents change would be enough in most cases.

And I honestly doubt they don't have the original files to just make them compatible with this system.

>>528333652
CAS is a necessary evil to counteract people camping in unapproachable sniper spots.

>>528335916
>get separated from squad because a strider ragdolled you to the other end of the map
>game turns into a guerilla warfare sim as you try and link back up while picking at objectives
It was pretty fun but holy fuck I went really far.

The annoying part about getting ragdolled on other fronts is that it's usually just a prelude to a stunlock and dying helplessly. On bots it's disruptive but not usually leading into a ragdoll->ragdoll->ragdoll->death true combo.

do you guys buy battlepasses.
getting 1000 supercredits orgainically takes for fucking ever.

>>528334707
>We're not talking about compared to
NO, we absolutely fucking are talking about compared to the rest of the enemy's force composition. Watchers, the only enemy capable of calling in reinforcements, make up an abysmally tiny percentage of the number of illuminate forces within a mission. In comparison to bots and bugs where the majority of enemies in the mission are capable of calling in backup.

>>528335787
>>528335512
>>528336258
Why not EMBRACE the red?

>>528336431
people here just grind with the arrow mod

D10
Lobby picks but not squids

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243597118802/76561197999417031

>>528336431
I do because I like supporting the devs.
It's getting a bit easier to get super credits now with cities though.

>>528336431
most of them are skippable.
just get detonation, polar and urban.
the others only if you like something that's in them.

>>528336431
>He missed the park raids

>>528328275
reshade, I use the following shaders
>SweetFX (just get the whole suite, they won't all be used)
>iMMERSE MartysMods, SMAA only
>CShade DLAA
https://imgsli.com/MzkxMjgz 1440p native rendering, no AA or sharpening in the game
messes up text a little bit but not enough to be noticeable in game, though you will notice it if you use a monitoring overlay

>>528335740
Levis would make more sense if they were like strider convoys. A finite yet powerful enemy force. The problem with leviathans is that they're just stage hazards. It isn't worth killing them because a new one just took its place.

>>528334894
good god dont encourage that samefaggot to spam LTD for months

>>528336483
2/4

>>528336431
I grinded 50k credits with the old replay mission glitch, I bought everything and I'm down less than 10k.

>>528336483
3/4

>>528336483
full

>>528335445
cape doesn't match, different shade of green, white and yellow not seen on the rest of the armor

>>528336431
I played with a dude from this general btw ages ago that could somehow spawn SC bundles. I still have over 20k SC since that day happened and it might last for a quite a while if I don't waste it on superstore slop.

What is the most game changing warbond?
Not "oh this pack is really strong, or this gun just kills everything."
What is a warbond that actually changed/fixed the meta?

>Steeled veterans
>Senator lets you play bots without an ap4 support weapon meaning you can actually deal with the insane hulk spawn rate

>Cutting Edge
Stun grenades enable nearly everything. But they've fallen off a bit now that call in time is negligible and everything staggers enemies.

>Democratic Detonation
Like the senator, this pack basically eases off on the amount of AT you need to bring to factions like bugs where so many heavies spawn, and players specced into AT might not always get the job done.

>Viper Commandos
Peak physique is arguably one of the strongest passives in the game and should be a gold standard for how armor passives are designed. The armor carries every support weapon from mediocrity to viable if not incredible.

>Freedom Flame
Torcher is basically a primary flamethrower, it doesn't have the raw DPS but it lets you rebuild your kit around it and use that extra strategem slot to mitigate the flamethrowers weaknesses

>Chemical Agents
Gas is honestly the strongest CC in the game right now, to the point where it's effectively broken. You can clear level 10 bug erradication missions with a supply pack and gas grenades easilly.

>Servants of freedom
Again like senator and thermite, ultimatum basically frees up any AT problems

>Borderline Justice
Hoverpack carries the flamethrower/torcher into god status on bugs and illuminate. However with the prevalence of consistant stuns the mitigation isn't too important.

>Force of Law
Urchin acts like a more "balanced" version of gas, enabling slow TTK weapons to actually perform without just taking raw immediate damage. It seems like every warbond is just trying it's best to slowly pull us away from taking rockets.

Looking at it, I'd probably say viper commandos.

>>528337151
Well, screw it then, I'll just wear my favorite cape with this armor regardless if it clashes or not. It's hard to match this armor set but it's the only medic armor I like, unfortunately. The others look like mascots for toothpaste companies.

>>528334946
NTA but I also reinstalled it recently too as I got phantom liberty
I cannot reccomend a netrunner build highly enough. I've gotten cyberware that restores health on enemy kill, then use the perk that costs health instead of RAM, + a bunch of other shit
I walk into any encounter, press E, then hack literally everyone around me to death in seconds


guuuuuh helldivers

>>528337991
this person is not very good at the game

>>528301857
The only weapons that are truly wasting exp are the killzone guns.

speaking of retarded cyber shit.

I hope they double down on the "cyber" armor when they release a stealth warbond. Like give us a katana primary, active camo backpack, and lean more into stuff like the drone master.

>>528337991
>Steeled Veterans
The Senator wasn't actually game-changing when it first came out, because AP4 wasn't given to it until long after release and the AT vs. heavy problem was resolved in the 60-day patches. In fact, the Breaker Incendiary was the prime reason to have the warbond because it was the de-facto bug killer weapon of the game.

>Cutting Edge
Stun Grenade + OPS was a core setup in the early days due to being the sole guaranteed method for killing heavies. Punisher Plasma was also one of the stronger anti-bot weapons since it could stagger Heavy Devastators through their shields and kill Scout Strider pilots from behind their metal box.

>Democratic Detonation
In the very early days, Grenade Pistol and pre-nerf Eruptor were godly. Thermite was literal dogshit until it was given anti-tank capabilities, while Exploding Crossbow got slightly nerfed and then massively buffed into the monstrosity it is today.

>Polar Patriots
Literal dogshit upon release, it's only good now because they finally completed the Purifier and buffed the Tenderizer and Verdict.

>Viper Commandos
The strength of Experimental Infusion was only due to there being so few viable choices for flex boosters (it being the fifth warbond ever to be released meant it got its foot in the door early). Everything else was incidental, and nowadays there are more options for boosters and you can just get Medium Peak Physique from the Superstore.

>Freedom's Flame
When it got released it was abysmal dogshit because fire weapons had recently been "nerfed" in Escalation of Freedom (they didn't actually get nerfed, just fixed, but everyone put the blame on the wrong cause). Only things worth it were the Cookout and Inflammable armor.

>Chemical Agents
Again, abysmal dogshit upon release. Stim Pistol was worthless due to inherent spread and slow projectile speed, Sterilizer and Dog Breath were also shit, only the Gas Grenade was worth it.

>>528303282
how can you use burst fire?

>>528338998
that sounds gay, splinter cell/metal gear inspired stuff would fit a stealth warbond way better

>>528339248
Didn't entirely mean on release, but current meta.
Stun grenades were insane on release though, I'm kinda surprised they haven't brought back heavy stunning.

>>528338883
My eruptor has been 25 for weeks...

Ultimatum is retarded and they'll never balance it and you will always be put in teams where everyone else uses it. So yeah it's Servants of Freedom.

How is this MO not finished yet?

>>528339383
Why not both?

But you're probably right, following the trend of warbonds we'd see.
>Decent Armor: Splinter cell MGS bodysuit with bulging biceps that's light armor
>Meme Armor: Guille suit with like a little flower on the top of the helmet, it's medium armor
>Cyborg edgy armor in the store with a primary katana

>>528337991
in no particular order
>urchin
worthless meme item
>hoverpack
worthless due to aim bob
>peak physique
good but overrated
>senator
absolutely does not let you play without a real support weapon. It's a good weapon but 100% a cope pick in this regard. Lets you deal with hulks reliably, though. This is the one thing it has going for it.
>torcher
come on now, the secondary is genuinely a better pick
>ultimatum
the supreme shitter secondary. Worthless pick - If you need to use it to deal with AT you already deserve to die

>>528337991
Detonation by allowing you to have explosives in your secondary or primary slot to close objectives is by far the most game changing warbond. The grenade pistol alone allows far more build diversity then needing to dedicate multiple stratagems or your support weapon to closing 10 hole bug nests.

Swiggers, automatrannies and squiddies get in the oven now.

>>528337991
>>528339248
>Truth Enforcers
It was and still is okay. Halt and Dead Sprint got some decent coverage in the early days and Dead Sprint was even heralded as the booster to supplant Experimental Infusion since the HP penalty became negligible when stacked with Vitality Booster. Reprimand had its fans back in the day as it does now, but there was a huge outcry at the time because it was an SMG that couldn't be one-handed, literally the only one. Unflinching perk was worthless upon launch, it's okay-ish now because of the extra armor rating bonus.

>Urban Legends
Still the top contender for best warbond in the game. Siege Ready and Armed Supply Pods were considered top tier in the new urban tileset, melee weapons were a new addition, the Sparta Kick emote was fucking great, and AT Emplacement remains the strongest stratagem in the game hands-down.

>Servants of Freedom
Still top tier even after various nerfs. DE Sickle is still absurdly strong, maybe stronger now than at release; the Ultimatum was busted as fuck because it could kill Stratagem Jammers and still be affected by Hellpod Space Optimization and Siege Ready; Portable Hellbomb still remains one of the biggest game-changers.

>Borderline Justice
Great fun, but nothing to write home about. Deadeye supplanted DCS for best marksman rifle in the game, Talon is okay but nothing spectacular, Hover Pack is fun but not meta-changing.

>Masters of Ceremony
Abysmal dogshit, and still is to this day. Who the fuck thought a melee weapon in the stratagem slot with no real benefits would be a good idea? The only good thing from the warbond is the Reinforced Epaulettes perk, and only after the massive buff to it.

>Force of Law
Still not convinced this warbond actually does anything. I like the De-Escalator even if it's not that good, since it's a revolving chamber grenade launcher (they could have just made it a reskinned Grenade Launcher and kept the belt feed mechanism, but they didn't, and I appreciate that).

>>528339704
>absolutely does not let you play without a real support weapon.
>Worthless pick - If you need to use it to deal with AT you already deserve to die

Every non AP4/AP5 support weapon benefits immensely from taking any AT secondary/grenade.
You cannot rely on reds to do the job for you at higher difficulties, and you need a pocket answer if you're paired with a shitter.

Hell you don't even need to take a support weapon on bots because of this. Thermites and senator will be enough, and you can just run supply pack primary to kill everything else.
This also allows players to type into roles more, players can run AT and feel like they've got a responsibility in the party without everyone fighting over using their AT first. Having innefficient AT kills changes a lot in this game.

Honestly unless you run nothing but recoiless I don't see how you think this way.

>he left without giving a hug
grim

>>528340075
Grenade pistol was pretty substantial, like practically mandatory for bug holes. It did kinda overshadow the utility of grenade launcher and eagle air strike though. I'd be mixed with it, but it did enable stun/gas nades.

>>528340234
>Still not convinced this warbond actually does anything.

Give it time. FleshMobs have a unique trait where if you stun them for even a half second lose control of their tracking and just run past you. If they add this behavior into more enemies, it'll be a substantial pack. Seeing the pacifier do this to fleshmobs repeatedly kind of 180'd my opinion on stun weapons.

Oy vey it's annodah lobby
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243598451122/76561198040375859

>>528340285
So which heavies do you use the Senator on?
Using a supply pack means you're going to throw thermites on 99% of the armored stuff and leave the Senator for hulk coinslotting only. Obviously it will work but it's not because of the Senator.

>>528340286
Sry. RP makes me anxious

how would (you) fix the passive ability problem

>>528340774
Full

>>528340797
Hulks, and gun ships.
>Obviously it will work but it's not because of the Senator.
wait what do you mean by this.

Like theres no bot threat that chases you that needs to be immediately killed, outside of hulks.
Everything else you can let your team handle, and you can even defang factory striders for your allies. I guess it's just something you only notice if you're playing with buddies for a good while and want to let them have their moment of glory.

>>528341313
Let use just swap armor passives around. I'm tired of seeing the same dozen armors everyone uses.

>>528341313
It's fine siege ready niggers should suffer being metafags

>>528341313
I'm glad you asked anon

>Make armors into "class identities" or build anchors like they intended them to be
>Figure out what the armor is meant to do
>Find meta's and responsibilities each faction presents now that we have access to the full roster.


Like lets take medic armor for instance. Imagine if the guy with medic armor stims himself, everyone around him gets stimmed.
Then have it work the other way around, he stim pistols someone and they get healed,
or better yet just give medic armor an active regen that gets higher the more people they're healing.
They can keep the extra 2 second stim time, just so medic armor keeps it's crutch status.

Then you can do cursed shit like grenade armor buffs the explosion radius of all grenades,
and up tiers their AP. It also gives you full resupply on grenades.
Remove the recoil reduction, and give them 50% explosive resistance.

Like I don't get how this is so fucking hard for them.
The only excuse I can see is that they don't want to do a balance overhaul until every enemy is introduced,
as the meta won't be set in stone until then. But it's been nearly a year theres really no excuse.

>>528341313
there isn't a problem unless you have an unhealthy attachment to a certain passive, in that case get help

A normal distribution tier list of all the stratagems, with slight bot bias.

Ordered as orbitals, eagles, support weapons, backpacks and greens.

>>528341313
Buff weak passives and boosters

>>528341313
Let us have our applewood smoked bacon.

>>528342197
I have an unhealthy attachment to drip

>>528342115
Game doesn't need the magical bullshit so prevalent in other coop games

Warning! You are in range of enemy artillery!

>>528342254
I think the wall should be placed higher

>>528342450
Why?
Unless they just want this game to be a sandbox milsim, and even then giving armor passives floors to make more builds happen would improve the sandbox nature of the game.