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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/ -The Old Game
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THE MANHOLE THEORY IS CONFIRMED BY Z-RANK ROOM
>>528365302 (OP)Ah, she has those whore eyes. I bet she wants to get fucked by Kris
Let's be honest, a weird route is just a poorly disguised evil/bad/negative route from other RPGs. Something like embracing Durge in BG3, Swarm-That-Walks in WOTR, or necron worship in RT.
These paths donโt have good endings. They all end badly. Theyโre designed solely to embody everything bad. And that means everything in this path will only get worse for everyone. Everyone will suffer. Because thatโs the point of this pathโabsolute evil.
And bad guys only get bad endings. There are no good endings in the snowgrave route for you.
(You) really shouldn't have fucked around with the doe.
>>528365465Proof kris is insecure about his manhole
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50k or dinner with gaster
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>>528365559>GAY SEX>GAS SEX>GAS TEX>GAS TER>GASTERHOLY SHIT GASTER IS GAY?!?!
chapter 3 was pretty tedious and average to me, but chapter 4 is kino so far. it's been years since a game made me want to stay up until 1am playing.
>>528365593Before or after tax?
>>528365598it's a dagger, retard. it's not a letter T
>>528365643Chapter 4 is the best thing Toby has created.
>>528365643Make sure to get the axe, anon
tennaโs head is asymmetrical
now you will pay attention to that
Ralsei being so weak is a genuine liability
>>528365807So is toriels head
>>528365807Yeah I noticed, I actually kinda like that.
You know how tenna is the embodiment of kris' family? Spamton is an amalgam of kris and FRIEND mixed into a schizo mess
Kris the puppet
Friend the cat
Puppet/cat
>>528365819That is why we are getting Noelle stronger to replace him with. Susie is already re-specing into the healer class, Noelle will be the new damage dealer with Ice Shock.
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Kris = cyan
Susie = magenta
Noelle = Yellow
FRIEND = MY without C (Cyan could be Patience, so this is Freedom without Patience)
Subtractive Colors, making black. aka "taking away the light that isn't there"
Black is called "key" , dark worlds are entered through doors by using a sharp object, kinda like a "key"
Goner Maker / Monochrome copies are both printer related
>>528365807yeah its cute i love my retarded deformed tv im gonna lick him
>>528365669After
>>528365807Is your head symmetrical
Is it bad I am genuinely more interested in the weird route than the main route? Like, I like the characters, I love Susie, I like Noelle, even Suselle can be cute at times! But for some reason, I just get more enjoyment out of discussing the weird route, it is much more intriguing, much more depth and the fact it changes scenes that it seemingly has no reason to change! It feels like there is so much thought put into it and its themes that I can't help but be more drawn to it than the normal route..
>>528365912I take the 50k
>>528365598ManHole to Mancountry
>>528365503>No wilting flowergay
>>528365907I also_____agree
>>528365946Most of this site is more obsessed with Rape Route than the actual game, you'd be among like minded people
>>528365946I think you're just weird.
The new chapters are literally impossible to beat if you have ADHD. Toby must hate his ADHD fans.
>>528365671it's a sword that's clearly mean to become the T in the logo.
Fuck the game for some reason loses audio when my TV goes to sleep on hdmi. I had to leave the game right before the titan fight and theres no sound now. Fucking Roby you retard why arent there any save points so I can relaunch the game? I dont want to fight without music
>>528365503I do think that Weird Route, while absolutely the dark route to go on, will very strong legs to stand on as an experience once we enter the end-game (and if Toby didn't become a coward). I do think with how Toby's team has been handling Kris much better than he did Chara, so to the Weird Route in comparison to the Genocide Run. One may be mantling Hell itself on the chase of freedom but if they hold no shame or doubt, it'll be nothing short of morbid beauty at what stands before and behind them. And if Toby truly played SMT, then he knows that's the high of the Chaos route. To mantle a thousand curses for that which you desire no matter the cost, whether its a better paradise than the gilded cage of Law or a land of carnal and wrathful indulgence depends on where you fall/the game but the fundamental core is Rebellion Until the End.
Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.
I love Chara too fucking much and I don't fucking care.
It's 2025 and we have a vampire AU; notably has Muffet and Monster Kid alongside the bosses
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/131305551
>>528366000>We access Mancountry, Kris's original home through Dr. Eggman>Kris's erased memories of home flooding back and having to fight the distorted neighbors and family he used to know>Culminates with us killing the little shit behind itkino..
>>528365946it feels like a creepypasta but in a good way
>>528366134>The new chapters are literally impossible to beat if you have ADHD.You people can't do anything
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>>528365883>MYKLike.. Mike.. haha bad joke
The new chapters are literally impossible to beat if you don't own a keyboard or a controller. Toby must hate his low net worth fans.
all soul abuse will be repaid in kind when the time comes
>>528366134Deltarune is impossible to beat if youโre blind. Toby must hate blind people
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>>528366152why do you think that when it doesn't appear in the actual game? this is the real game's logo. it's manhole. the dagger is a reference to the original contained within tenna's version. it's actually crazy you don't see that.
>>528366284you using voice inputs or something?
>>528366134fucking how
are you just not invested enough or something because i beat all of 3 and 4 in one setting deltarune had that pussy gorilla grip on me man
>>528366296Ohhh I have a plan for my revenge.
the new chapters are impossible to beat if you aren't real. toby must hate those without corporeal forms
Dude where can I get those mouth joysticks I gotta try Knight with one of those
>>528365946my interest in the routes is the same lore-wise, but i do dig Weird Route's creepypasta feel to it, especially when it feels like the game is slowly cracking like this moment
I LOVE TENNA! I LOVE TV!!
>>528357240im retarded, wtf does this mean
>>528366296>We can still be friends, just say sorry.>One little word, Kris. That's all you have to say.
>>528365946I don't consider it weird considering the normal route just started developing its plot end of Ch3/Ch4 meanwhile Weird Route started being more serious out the gate. It skipped 90% of the preamble that was normal Ch1-3 while putting everything under a different lens. I hope that Toby is able to better balance the routes by making Normal (and Sword) shine on their own once the full game's out, and not have a repeat of genocide autism.
>Alvin mentions that Asgore often visits the church at night to pray for the family and his flowers
>Asgore suddenly appears after Kris's phone call
>Quickly glances at the guitar when sitting on the couch
>The closet in the church that Kris refuses to open
>A large person could fit inside
>The closet in the computer lab
>A large person could fit inside
What if Kris isn't so much in league with Carol as he is with Asgore, trying to help him solve the Dess case in a way that doesn't get us involved because we're beholden (or at least believed by Kris to be beholden) to Carol in some fashion?
>>528365643Chapter 4 was the real chapter we've been waiting for
>>528366315That anon is wrong about it being the T. You can clearly see the T exists in the image though. There's no space for an H or an O.
>>528365503It's not a Twirling Mustache Villain route. It's a creepypasta route. Obviously it's not going to be a "happy" ending, but it won't be "you're bad, you should feel bad", either. It's going to be creepy and scary, with a bit of mindfuck.
>>528366539>>Asgore suddenly appears after Kris's phone callbecause he was already in the house you fucking retard you can see him cleaning the bathroom when you're in the vents as the SOUL
and then after that if you go back to carol's room you see him there saying he has a black shard
Guys what if the annoying dog is the knight? Right at the end Susie knocks off his helmet and it's just the annoying dog under there?
>>528365643Chapter 4 is peak. Its all the best parts of chapter 1 tenfold. The best part of Deltarune is interactions between Kris Ralsei and Susie, not bogged down by shit like Berdly or fapn cakes
>>528366315*spamton static face*
Anon.....it's mantle....the letters are the shadow of the font...like.....it's...a shadow mantle. .
>>528366567holy shit, this almost makes me feel bad for Kris.
I would've let them if they didnt hit me with the FUCKING HOCKEY STICK
...im lying. my empathetic ass would probably let Kris do whatever
>>528366280fuck, you might unironically have figured it out
>>528366539>Asgore suddenly appears after Kris's phone callHe was already in the house
>A large person could fit insideThat's where The Knight (Dess) is hiding
>continuing from last thread
the secret bosses being hard is what makes them satisfying
it's like how a meal you cooked yourself tastes better than one you got from a restaurant because of the extra satisfaction that the effort and skill you put into it was all worthwhile
if you aren't good enough to beat the knight, who cares? you don't even get anything from it except susie dialogue
>>528366789>ManholeI can't believe Kris ditched his friends to play "manhole" I guess he really is gay for berdly
>>528366789at least this is better than your last attempt with the super fucked-up leaning 'A'
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Aw, I forgot how much I love this image.
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Why do I even fucking bother
>>528365302 (OP)I should be happy MTT and Tenna are gonna fuse/fuck/whatever but it makes me angry.
>>528366795they're meant to be skill checks. earn your secret ending.
>>528366834i'm not the anon you're referring to. my husband and i just recognized that it looks like manhole during our playthrough. i don't think it means anything... yet. the part of the game where you wander through the city looking for someone to kill makes me think it will be relevant later in the weird route specifically.
>>528366795I really want to know the age of the people complaining about the difficulty of SECRET bosses
>>528366789>Can see each letter clearly>No H shape whatsoever when we can clearly see where the top and bottoms of each letter is>"The O is hiding"you're silly
Once again
It says mantle.
It is the shadow of the word mantle.
A...
Shadow mantle.
>>528366567Kris deserves this, he wouldn't be friends with her at all if not for us and look how we're repaid.
i'm gonna tear open your manhole
>>528366795Just entitled asshats, hurr I want to play a game but actually not play it just gimme the win conditions
>>528366613> you're bad, you should feel badThatโs exactly what will happen.
>>528366157The weird route is about shaming the player for munchkinism and doing something just because the option was given. Obviously, in this path, you become the antagonist to the game's main characters. It's nothing more than another sermon from Toby about being good and valuing friendship.
>>528366914probably around 40 or 50.
>>528366968and??? how exactly does that stop you now when chapter 1 and 2 didnt
>>528366957I didn't even think about that. every fucking time with Toby fox the pun is what seals it. id be mad if it werent so clever
My pipe dreams for chapter 5's Castle Town
>New Malius fusions (obviously)
>New SpinCake (obviously)
>New dojo fights, including a Jackenstein rematch with new mazes
>Seam finally updates their fucking shop inventory
>Lightners Live has a chart editor and you can easily add fanmade charts for any in-game song
>TV studio expands to add Susiezilla
>Cooking Challenge minigame added to the Cafe, includes all of your recruits as customers
>Sweet Cap'n Cakes have way more songs available and they let you change Castle Town's BGM
>Addisons sell a new version of character tea, including a PLAYER flavor
>Claimb Claws can be used on the cliffs outside of town, if you reach the top you can see Mr. Society again
>The enrichment enclosure in Lancer's room becomes a pet-raising minigame
>Ralsei Rancher
>>528367017My body is ready
WOOAAAH
STORY OF THE WEIRD ROUTE
>>528366957You're MY shadow mantle <3
>>528366968NIGGA ME TOO no one in this general is neurotypical
>>528367090>>Seam finally updates their fucking shop inventoryerm actually he does do that in chapter 4, he starts selling darker candies instead of dark candies
>>528366795The Knight was TOO hard. There was no reason for it to be able to bypass defense entirely to do a large percentage of your max health with certain attacks. Being able to 2 shot is some bullshit and you know it. The other attacks were fine otherwise.
>>528367045>The weird route is about shaming the playerYou people are here too? Good grief
>>528366795>That imageI recognize that AU!
>>528366309Unironically though could a deaf person beat that one fight in chapter 4 that's entirely dependent on audio cues? There's initially visual cues but they disappear after a few turns.
>>528367171So how do you do it? How long did it take?
>>528367137About teas...
WE are that aftertaste Noelle notices, right?
But yeah, I'd love more teas. I think the only reason Toby didn't include them/made them rot is so he didn't have to update them at every pivotal moment in the storyline where a character's feelings about another changes... but damn, a player tea would be sick.
It should heal Noelle 999 on the weird route.
>>528367090I wanna fuse some of my boss items. That's be sick. More armor that actually increases defense instead of like like THREE items across TWO chapters.
So its shadow mantle or Ream
>>528367229Holy shit its SwapSwapSwapPuppet AU!
>>528367192No dude Knight is a GREAT example of Tobyism, it's designed to be a total loss, until you get the idea to try it again because you remember you did some damage and avoided some hits and Toby rewards your GUTS by making it quicker to retry and giving some bonus content for making it through
>>528367258does nothing change if you tell Susie you can't hear the noise?
I got a crazy fucking theory. I think the Old Man in Deltarune and Gerson (the turtle Waterfall shopkeeper) from Undertale are the same guy but in different universes.
>>528367321Umbrashard, achtually.
>Be Noelle
>Cry to big sis Dess that Kris is being mean to you
>Your sister, your hero catches him before he's about to scare you with another ketchup trick
>Serves him right, hope she smacks him hard with the whiffle bat
>Things quiet down
>Hours pass and you still hear nothing
>Decide to check on the two
>Peek in through the door
>Kris being taught doggy tricks and commands
Don't have any good reaction images for this
>>528367192if you're not baiting, how is getting downed in 2 shots a problem when you have so many heals that also function as revives?
>>528367229https://soundcloud.com/therosaic/kingpin-v2
Does anyone else actually hate Ralsei?
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>>528367090>Seam finally updates their fucking shop inventoryNope. He said it himself.
>>528367303What boss items would you fuse, anon?
>>528366296Sexually, right?
If you see me out in hometown, say hi,
But if you meet me in the dark world Iโm a talkative guy
>>528367308Ream my asshole
>>528367375Nope, just you
>>528367258that fight does like 5 damage per hit, you can easily tank it even without a shield
>>528367303Spamton's Glasses with Tenna's tie would be funny.
>>528367380Lowkey castle town is so useless man why did Toby add all this shit in ch2 and then just never update it
>>528366573why does the T have a shelf on it though
>>528367090About teas...
WE are that aftertaste Noelle notices, right?
But yeah, I'd love more teas. I think the only reason Toby didn't include them/made them rot is so he didn't have to update them at every pivotal moment in the storyline where a character's feelings about another changes... but damn, a player tea would be sick.
It should heal Noelle 999 on the weird route.
>>528367509Because he was suppose to die during covid so he would never have to finish it, but since he survived he has to deal with it now
Kriselle relationship sounds so beautiful and ethereal.
>>528367286I'm a housewife aka unemployed so I broke it up into 5 hour sess over 3 days. Forced myself to stop and do house chores
>>528367442He's such a fag though.
>>528367514sword animation. its because its the sword
>>528367258>could a deaf person beat that one fight in chapter 4 that's entirely dependent on audio cues?It asks you if you can hear it first for a reason. If you can't tell where it's coming from or distinguish between the sounds, you keep the visual cues.
>>528367509I will Toby a break on this one, I'm sure he had alot of ideas that development just got in the way of
And, tbqh, I'm still hoping all this recruitment is gearing up for a total war for the final boss
Hey check out this sweet trick
>>528367509donโt worry castletown is going to get a major overhaul in chapter 5
>>528367375What kind of monster could?
if toby actually did everything he wanted with castle down the game wouldn't be finished until 2050
>>528367375For sure, but I don't hate him. I just wish he would put the hat back on is all.
>>528367192Knight is a solid fight, aside from the poorly telegraphed hitboxes on the sword tunnel attack. I can barely play baby games like Mario and I still beat the Knight.
How will (You) fill Ralsei's room in the Chapter 5 room designer minigame?
Idk why but Downloading Deltarune through steam led to a chain of events where my copy of windows 10 started having a schizophrenic episode and was missing several essential system files.
I think theyre unrelated but it really sold the idea that chapter 4 weird route was a mistake
>>528366860Damn I miss him
>>528367630>>528367654 Yeah Iโll cut him some slack since the chapters themselves are good. Trusting the plan on that ch5 overhaul tho
>>528367571>5 hour sess over 3 daysNot for both chapters, right? Maybe I'm not playing long enough. There's something else I rather be doing right now but I keep seeing artists I follow start to draw porn. Maybe I should just mute them and come back when I'm more dedicated?
>>528367371Because you can't use them as revives. You need ACTUAL revives, remember? Only Kris avoids swoon.
The problem with the knight is it cheats compared to everything else so far. Jevil, Spamton, and Gerson are all hard but fair. It's genuine tests of game skill, inventory management, and allow you to use your equipment to mitigate things.
With the Knight, it's doing true damage that bypasses your defense and Swoon prevents you using food or waiting for your party to recover on their own. Even with the Mantle, you're struggling a fuck ton and you need every body you can get to soak damage and to generate TP for the rude buster.
>>528367703It won't be finished until 2050 anyway
>>528366296Oh, you don't know WHAT I'd do. You wouldn't want to know.
>>528367703I hope we get full deltarune experience by 2030, started playing/being in undertale while 15, ending it while 30, crazy shit, or at least the last two chapters should be in 2030 if we get ch5 next year...i dont want to wait 10 years for final two chapters please Tobias
>>528367725The ice E cube and nothing else Ralsei sat on the seat cushion so I couldn't take it.
>>528367587>He's such a fag though.That's the best part
>>528366890Is it because you want to be the one fucking him?
>>528367375It's urksome that I have to pretend he's a boy when everything says otherwise but no
>>528367725>no bed>ice e statue>tenna statue>1-to-1 model of Krisโ โball of junkโ >glow in the dark ceiling stars>move talking hat rack into roomthat would be all
>>528366778Why would december be a large person retard, the hilidays are tiny
>>528367380Well where's my fucking biscuits? Stupid cat.
>>528367725Nice! Where's the cuck chair?
>>528367401>>528367506Spamton's Glasses with the Tennatie, maybe Jevilsknife with the new Hammer you get from Gerson, Jevils tail would be funny with the ribbons if you could trick Susie to wear it.
>>528367767you can use them as actual revives for kris, using a deluxedinner on kris will bring them back to 60-80 hp i don't remember, and you can just get susie the mantle to drop her damage to only a third, 10 rude busters later and you have the dub
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I love this
>>528367862Looks pretty large to me
>>528367758yeah just spend time off twitter n shit and come back once youre done. dont rush it nor chalk it up to impossible because of adhd lole
Hey /utg/ post
>Your fave
>Your credit card number and the three numbers on the back of the card
>>528367826It genuinely enrages me. He's weak in every way and completely useless. He adds literally nothing of value and only exists as cumbait for dumb pedofags like you.
>>528368009>He adds literally nothing of valueHe is worth 32 MSRP if you sell him to seam.
>>528366567So the Field of Pink and Yellow really is gonna be the Festival and all the jealousy imploding on this love triangle
>>528367957the problem is..
Kris rarely gets hit unless the other two are down already
>>528367716I beat the Knight too. Doesn't mean I don't recognize that it's still badly designed as a secret boss.
>>528367957You're not using them for Ralsei, who's a body for generating TP, and Susie, who's the main damage dealer. Besides, I LITERALLY addressed your point in the second sentence.
>>528368009Titansei theory comes true and you'll eat shit. He has insanely powerful magic he's holding back on that he's going to unleash soon.
>>528367842>when everything says otherwise?
>>528367971The style of this drawing is so good, I love that SOUL design.
>playing fangame where you play as susie when she meets noelle in her dark world bedroom in chapter 2 snowgrave
>the gaster voice calls me by the name i chose specifically for my snowgrave file in normal deltarune
>>528367893Government mandated fluffy boys for all single men
>>528368004Tenna
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Why is the Knight so OP? Why can they turn into a ball?
>>528366778Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy the hand pushed back, this makes it sounds romantic when it wasn't
>>528367834Iโve known him for a day and I want him to hang out at castletown longer. That MTT adoption window is too fucking small
>>528368156Of course Tenna would fall for Spamtons credit card fraud
>>528368183Oh that's fair. I kinda agree desu. I understand why Toby's friend misses him
>>528368093If Ralsei turns out to be a Titan, I'm kicking his shit in for dying so many times to Jevil
>>528367875>Where's the cuck chair?Your hypothetical Ralsei Room now contains 1 (One) Cuck Chair. What else would you put in it?
>>528367846Very good, anon.
...would Ralsei sleep in the junk?
>>528368183I refused to give him up despite his protests. He's going to stay in my Castletown and he's going to like it.
>>528368009Oh, you're terminally /v/tarded. All becomes clear now.
>>528368058that's a good thing, it means kris doesn't have to worry about going down again and they can keep healing susie who draws all the aggro with her massive defense
>>528368064ralsei isn't important in this fight, did you notice how he has no dialogue but susie does? he's expected to go down, that doesn't make it a bad fight
>>528367767shrimple guide:
save revivemints for this fight
equip shadow mantle on kris
Kris is either defending for extra tp and less chance of down or using mints on downed ppl. never attack with Kris. free turn for whatever you want. use the ACT that makes the soul faster on turn 2, defend first turn for the easier time getting that first rude buster.
practice to get better at dodging. if you need to, spend a few attempts with everyone defending to practice patterns. watch the way other people dodge them and try to replicate if you're having a lot of trouble. Kris being up is first priority, since they already take less damage and can be healed without revivemints.
make sure all your healing items are as good as you can get: all your revivemints, tension items if you NEED them, deluxedinner, etc
repeat practice until you don't immediately ultradie
if all else fails repeatedly, there's always a cheat engine.
>>528368282Thank you my autism subsided.....for now
>>528368108what fan game it sounds kino
>>528367996That's fair. It's literally only on one account too so its pretty avoidable. I'm just very susceptible to MILFs and evil women and the vague impression I get is that Chapter 4 has both. Noelle is also my second favorite character. I honestly couldn't care less about Kris or Ralsei.
>>528368183If we give away Tenna, who will be The Kings jester?
>>528367606Oh, I didn't realize that changed the fight. I should have done that since I'm bad with audio cues.
BWOOOOOAAAAAAWWWW
BWOOOOOAAAAAAWWWW
soooo, why did susie bleed
>>528368315>>528368269I've never used /v/ a day in my life. "Cuteness" is the fetishization of helplessness. All Ralseifags are pedophiles.
>>528368320If he goes down that's an extra body that won't soak damage and a loss of 16 extra tp per turn. He's important in that regard. Believe me, letting him stay dead was what usually ended up killing me because I wasn't getting off that all important rude buster damage as often as possible.
>>528368324Already beat it.
>>528368401>Oh, I didn't realize that changed the fight.
>>528367703Whether 11 hours or 11 years, I will wait for Ralsei Rancher
>>528368446Because she was cut
Oh I just remembered
The one anon who said they'd post their Gaster schizo dream never did
>>528368004Starwalker
6.1.11-5.3.1.1-8.4.14-21.13 (5.7.7)
>>528368446from shattering the prophecy violently, right? gerson used his stick
>>528368446Sans gave her a free ketchup bottle and she was saving it to share with Kris after the adventure. It broke when she shattered the Mural.
>>528366778What fucks me up about this bit is that they know exactly where we can't see but Kris can. How do they have that knowledge?
>>528368446Composition diffรฉrence between DR and UT monsters
>>528368461Not to mention that he's useful for reviving Kris or Susie. That's important too.
>>528368510They were taken too soon
>>528368334deltarune frozen heart
it's on gamejolt
Is the Knight harder than Sans? Cause it took me like a week playing on and off to beat Sans and I don't want to bother if it's on that level.
>>528368345ok i feel you my brother
you could also do the Pomodoro Timer method but honestly thats a little rigid for vidya. still if it works it works
The Roaring Knight? Hard? Try to beat Dark Demon from Demon's Crest, why don't you?
>>528368573I read that as "Is the Knight harder than Santa" and thought you got Chapter 5 early or something
>>528368446She's an experimental human/monster hybrid.
Her parents were dragons
her adoptive father was gaster
>>528367725>Ralsei plushie>ICE-E statue>Tenna statue>ladder>couch cushionsBest I can do
>>528366296What's between Kris's legs?
>>528368461he's nice to have alive but what i'm saying is you don't need him alive to win
>>528368573I've seen people compare it to Sans in terms of difficulty.
>>528368446considering how every lightner, human or monster, has access to determination for opening a dark fountain, i just assumed monsters in Deltarune function differently, like being able to bleed
>>528368573not even close, scrubs are being filtered because it's new. in a few weeks they'll stop whining.
>>528368501The line in japanese is along the lines of "everyone gets bruised"
>>528368460>"Cuteness" is the fetishization of helplessness.This says more about you than anything else.
>>528365302 (OP)Sorry about this, buddy, but:
crappstablook.
>>528368573The Knight's attacks are more punishing and some are harder to predict, but it's also a DPS race instead of being a set number of turns like Sans, so if you can keep up your offense you can beat it much more quickly and have less attacks to dodge
>>528368717>deltarune frozen heartMore like Deltadeltadelta
>>528368717And bruises form from blood flowing into the damaged muscle.
>>528368659Dess. Kris is crying but Dess remains glued.
>>528368573Debatable, I say no way jose, Sans hits like 95% of the entire box
>>528368573in my opinion knight is easier than sans because it's shorter and you can heal while attacking
>>528368270>Your hypothetical Ralsei Room now contains 1 (One) Cuck Chair. What else would you put in it?Ralsei plushie & the various outfits on plushie sized mannequins
Cute bed (1 person so that any potential cuddles have to be real close)
A shelf going around the bed corner, holds various things like plushies and an extra set of glasses
Big life sized animal/monster plushie or two, can be used like beanbags
A wooden wardrobe containing various outfits Ralsei is often too embarrassed to wear
A full body mirror
A makeup table
The lighting would be very dim and gentle
>>528368717You realize the game isn't originally written in Japanese?
>>528368710>not even closeSans is easy. The Knight is of comparable difficulty to Sans and has harder patterns, it's just a shorter fight.
>>528368573Knight is harder* in the sense it has harder attacks, imo. BUT Sans is a longer fight and much more endurance based, there is much less you can do to prepare for sans besides some small gimmick items, the knight can be prepared for and you have a party of three meaning you can heal and attack.
Sans is harder overall, however.
>>528368581>Pomodoro Timer method>if it works it worksThanks. I might get some actual use out of this. Right now that I'm just gonna quit if I lose this current battle and come back to it later.
>>528368592>>528368828This is Burgerpants/Pizzapants story
What is Gwei supposed to be
>>528368781everyones trying to figure out if the knight is Dess, Asriel, Carol, Rudy, even Asgore or FRIEND....
the character it actually most closely resembles is Mettaton EX
Makes me think it's a construct made by Alphys or at least, using this universe's True Lab equivalent
>>528368460Pedophile here. Ralsei would most likely attract the "Femboy Audience" which are adjacent to Lolisho/Grapetrain people. They are distinctly pedophilic, but unlike the Paraphilia/Fandom side of the community, they're very quick to refuse any connection in order to save face. They are the type to spam such phrases as "I love Children!" "Breeding Boys!!" While undercutting themselves with an obligatory "Fiction isn't reality" argument repeated nearly every day
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kino, Nice Cream Goy being a bard (i think?) is awesome
God I wish this were real, Tobias Foxford plz make it happen pretty pwease-
>>528369076Yes thats the gate, thanks for recognizing it
Clearing out my room in anticipation for Tenna pillow...what is HAPPENING WHY IS THINKING ABOUT TENNA MAKING ME WANNA CLEAN MY ROOM OF ALL THINGS?! is...is this how normal people function?
>>528368698And I'm saying that him being alive makes the fight much easier. He soaks damage from Susie, he can generate TP, he can revive Kris so Susie doesn't have to waste a turn, you're losing out on important TP generation when you want Susie to be spamming Rude Buster as much as possible.
You only need to graze 18% tp(34% without him) per turn to make sure you get a rude buster off if he's alive. You don't have to waste a turn of Susie's to revive Kris to have as backup to revive Susie if he's alive.
Him not being "needed" doesn't mean he isn't important for a normal run of the Roaring Knight.
Technically none of them are "needed" if you can do a no-hit run but nobody is expecting that. Your logic is flawed. Plain and simple.
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>>528368009You sound like this
>>528368941Your honesty is appreciated.
what will people who jobbed to knight say when there are multiple harder fights in the future
>>528368923This needs acknowledgment
>>528369191The Titan and Gerson were infinitely easier.
>>528368845Very nice, anon. Tell me more about what's in the wardrobe...
>>528369264talking about future chapters
>Kris
>Dess
What's their relationship?
>>528369168CLEAN IT UP!!!
Imagine if he really walked into your room, a place where you expected him for, how long has it been, a week? And itโs still not straightened up!!?? Anon, you need to make him impressed, light some candles too
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>>528369306We'll have better items and equipment.
>>528368501That might be figurative speech
>>528368553Wasn't there a rabbit kid that specifically asks Kris if it hurts to be made out of blood, implying they themselves aren't made of it?
>>528368465I'll never be a true gamer like Berdly
>>528367375No, it's just that like most cute boys he's at his best with tears down his face.
>>528369191>we need more accessibility in video games!
>>528368846do you think japanese UT/DR fans autistically analyze english text like weaboos do with moonrones (even tho it's not the main language)?
So Gaster was studying Dark Worlds in UT, right?
>>528369251This should of happened
https://files.catbox.moe/la7v4b.mp4
>>528369186Some things you just gotta be honest about or otherwise you'll have a 6 year discussion on Ralsei that just never ends. Thats usually why shitpost wars happen, everyone is wrong to begin with
>>528369354the damage is based on what items are available
>>528369414Humans aren't made out of blood either. The kid is just retarded.
>>528369328>KrisFrightened of her fury but likes playing music and making mischief with her
>DessThinks Kris is cute but annoying since she'd rather smack lips with his big brother and he gets in the way with his shenanigans
>>528369328Big sister figure. Nothing else please dont say anything else
>>528369330>A weekGOD I WISH...but something like that yeah...
>light candlesdamn I want him to be real but not THAT bad...he shall be real soon though...soon
Tenna would say:
>Damn BITCH you live like that?!and he'd be 1000% correct
https://x.com/CalzoneCave/status/1935850997789647149
Even if this is intended to be a joke the editing and audio design is REALLY good. The way they made Asgore's theme blare through is cool as fuck.
>>528369495The other fights will be designed around the intention of having people beat them, unlike the knight.
>>528369470something even darker. sans shows off his achievements. teleportation, wormholes, psychokinesis...
>>528369550the knight was designed to be beaten, that's why she drops a shadow crystal which is implied to be important to collect
>>528369617Sans won't be relevant to the more important parts of DR's plot.
Post Ralseis you don't see every day, please!
>>528369168>is this how normal people function No but who fuckin cares like if mentally imagining Tenna praising and pampering you after taking care of yourself and your room then allow it!!
I thought Balthizard was a popcorn machine when I first played
>>528369273Disgustingly cute ones of various kinds, like the TV Time outfits, dresses, well fitting overalls and such, but nothing too lewd
>>528369663How about a reversal?
>>528368717Speaking of the japanese localization
>chapter 3>One of Tenna's lines seems perfect for a Gamecenter CX nod with some slight alteration in translation>check translation>It's exactly what I was thinkingkek
>>528369542Asgore really needs a hero moment like this, although it would be kinda funny for this to be the THIRD chapter in a row where an adult saves the kids from an unwinnable fight.
Y'know, now that I think about it, every chapter ends with a fight you can't win that someone else has to save you from.
>>528369664you say this so confidently, but why?
>>528369679I don't think I'd ever have realized what he was if I hadn't played Darkest Dungeon too much.
>>528369649>Fight that doesn't obey the normal game mechanics>Cheating by doing percentage health>Boss fight after a boss fightIt rewards you for beating it but the intent is for you to lose
>Kris can't take listening to Sans fuck their mom anymore and jumps out the window
>Runs away to Castle Town, figuring Susie went there too
>Opens the door to their shared room
>Finds Ralsei comforting Susie with his dick
How do they kill themself?
>>528369550Wait until Seam becomes a secret boss.
Orange/Light Blue Soulbros I don't feel so good...
>>528369191I jobbed but I had the determination to keep trying until I won, I'll do the same for a harder boss too
>>528369719I'll say it for many, many anons.
>W H Y C O U L D N ' T I T H A V E B E E N M E ? ? ? ? ?
>>528369797Seam deserves to beat my ass though.
Hey can someone post the pic of Miss Mizzle showing her panties
>>528369812oh, look! the ending!
>>528369743Because he's cringe and hasn't done anything but be slimy and smug. Also it would be the most boring thing imaginable to have him hijack the plot at this point with the zero set-up we've had for him. People just want him to be important cause ~muh genocide~ and because he's a fan favorite. At best he'll be a side character that info dumps about Gaster
Also Toby is my uncle and told me.
>>528369784>Susie sleeps in an imaginary world that can't even feed herHow depressing
I just want to goon to the fluffy boy desu
>>528369781At first. But the real intent is for players to beat them eventually which is why Gaster asks you if you want to keep trying if you load the save again.
>>528369784Choking on Ralsei's dick and refusing to come up for air. Ralsei is desperately begging Kris to breathe and is yanking his hair to get him off but to no avail, Kris dies choking on Ralsei's dick. As per the prophecy
>>528368923>>528369216okay, I will acknowledge it:
SERIOUSLY what the fuck is up with the Knight? I realize asking that question in a setting where full-on magic exists is stupid and we'll get some sort of answer eventually, but really what the fuck how is a (supposed) Lightner suddenly able to go fucking Samus morph ball and shit? Is the black shard material just that OP that a Lightner can make themselves look like a freaky-ass skeleton whatsit and levitate in the Dark World? Is the fake-out that we have the order of operations backwards and the suit is somehow engineered to allow Darkners to (briefly?) take physical form in the Lightner world?
>>528369663>>528369549I'd grab her and stuff her into an iron maiden and smash the thing against a tree repeatedly
>>528369514You know what? Straightening up your room and lighting candles isnโt enough. You need to have a nice dinner (but nothing too brave or foreign, keep it suburban) and a warm rose petal bath ready for him as SOON as he is out the box. Heโs a star, after all.
>but heโs a TV!!! He canโt go into waterAh, ah ah, itโs the thought and romantic gesture that matters
https://files.catbox.moe/hlrpy7.mp4
>>528369842stay strong brother, there's still 3 chapters left that totally won't be used on blue soul instead even tho it's awesome
>>528369679I only recognized what he was because of The Binding of Isaac.
Same with most religious references I see, actually...
Huge load for the doe ho-ho-hoe~
>>528369863ahhh, sans has you played like a one note instrument. you're basing this off of like 3 interactions, imagine touting that sans would have no big place in undertale's plot because all he does is make jokes with his brother in snowdin.
I didn't need to see that.
>>528369884Even Seam says you aren't expected to beat the Knight. You're just wrong, dude. Toby expected only a small percentage to actually beat the Knight.
I [Proceed]ed like that earlier
>>528369987Thatโs really really hot anonโฆ
>fight significantly easier than sans wasn't intended to be beaten
lol
>>528369729What's the line?
>>528368893Y'know what fair point
It even looks like him
>>528369928My guess was that it was Kris's original Soul, but that ignores the fact that Kris has had a birdcage for the soul since before the game even started so I'm really not sure.
>>528369987damn kris that's nasty
>>528369953Sorry but the player loves Ralsei more than Kris. The little shit is teaming up with the bad guys and is the one who will hug Ralsei or comfort him. Kris only comforts his friends when the soul is outright torturous and evil to others.
Kris a SHIT. These are OUR friends not HIS.
>>528369673>mentally imagining Tenna praising and pampering you after taking care of yourself Hell fucking yeah! it's pretty early for me now, but i'll start cleaning soon while the TV will be blasting various shows in the background to keep me going (for now its playing BoJack)
>>528369945>Straightening up your room and lighting candles isnโt enough. you NEED to imagine him taking care of you...make a tulpaftfy
but anyways, for now i'll stick to slowly cleaning up the room and tidying it all and taking care of myself more i suppose...
>>528369987Seriously I would like to do this to that one picture of Miss Mizzle if anyone would kindly indulge me (I won't post it here don't worry)
>>528370003Except that Sans was all over the fucking place in UT. I think he was literally encountered in every area after the ruins, was heavily featured in promo stuff and had a ton of foreshadowing lines even as far back as Snowdin that acknowledged he was aware of our abilities. None of which exists in DR.
I DONT like Jerma Spamton
Sorry!!!!
>>528370073Most people didn't beat Sans either.
>>528370226he was intended to be beaten by GOOD PLAYERS
or at least DETERMINED players
>>528370090I feel like if it's an extracted/science-fuckulated Lightner's SOUL, it'd be Dess for all the other various reasons and hints (and maybe Rudy but we have no idea what the rules for monster SOULs is in this world and we probably won't until either the second we find out what's up or briefly beforehand to let us feel smart)
Do you think we'll have to kill Ralsei and Susie on the weird route, or will we be able to force them to join us?
>>528370208I'm a fan of tom kenny spamton
>>528369729What's the GCCX reference?
>>528370298The Sword game foreshadowing didn't bode well for them.
The message of Deltarune is going to be "If you like freedom that much, why don't you go outside?"
I still can't really get over how Ralsei's more than likely been sleeping on the floor of a dark empty room for the past four nights and however long he's been in Castle Town despite likely being more than capable of decorating it any time he wanted.
I knew it'd be empty, but I didn't know it literally wouldn't even count as a bedroom.
>>528370273If all you've played is UT and DT I could understand this thought but you've clearly not played enough games to see a boss fight that a dev doesn't intend most people to win.
Horny posting anons are my favorite kind
>>528368941Cartoon characters don't correlate to real life shit, especially a furry like Asriel. No one's "saving face" just because you don't want to be alone in embracing being a sick fuck.
>>528370298I expect the player will be forced to kill them.
>>528370185>Toby even made her gay with Tasque ManagerSeriously what's with this guy and his yuri fetish
>>528369735>Y'know, now that I think about it, every chapter ends with a fight you can't win that someone else has to save you from.huh
Well, technically you beat King fair and square in the "neutral ending," Ralsei casts Pacify on him in the cutscene
And in Chapter 4 you didn't actually need Gerson's help at all, he just saved you the trouble of breaking its shield again and pushes you toward the answer (which, I guess is consistent with what he did in the whole Chapter, so I can't be too annoyed about it). Kris/the SOUL is still the one that defeats the Titan.
>>528369930>Kris crying in anger after the biweekly doelestation session
>>528370298Judging by the mantle minigame, we'll have to kill everyone
>>528370372i played mother 3 and that game had an enemy in the lab you weren't supposed to beat but i did it anyway, pretty tedious though with such high hp
>>528370432If you could put anything in a game and know that it would sell like hotcakes regardless, you would put your fetish in it too.
>>528370432You literally can't see them interact in game
>>528370226Thats a straight up lie. Discounting the people that didnt do the Genocide Route, most people that reached Sans were committed enough to finish the route. He's not *that* much harder than Undyne either, just has a very memorable opener
>>528370085One of his lines went from roughly "You can learn everything you need to know from TV!" to "Everything I Need to Know, I Learned from Television!" which is a nod to an old CX segment from the 2000's
>>528370023>Even Seam says you aren't expected to beat the KnightWithout the Shadow Mantle, which we didn't have when we talked to him in chapter 2 you speedreading moron.
>>528370336I don't know how it isn't obvious to everyone that it's going to be "It's more about the journey than the destination".
>>528370336>why don't you go outside?It's miserable and hot out, that's why
>>528370381Wholesome Posting Anons Are My Favorite Kind
>>528370487I think you're overestimating how many people actually did and then BEAT the genocide route.
>>528369784I can comfort Kris with my... whatever the vessel has.
>>528370526It was 116 degrees in Arizona just earlier this week
>>528370023Seam is a pessimistic bitch that doesn't believe in you
I ask again, anyone got any Spamtenna dubcon fanfics or doujins?
>>528370298If we genuinely have to make Kris kill them I don't know if I'd be able to go through with it
Genocide was fucked up and made me feel bad a few times but I straight up do not want to do that. I don't want to see what happens that badly.
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>>528370645I can't believe Dess went evil just because Carol told her that she needed to share Kris with Noelle.
>>528370336It's more nuanced than that. Escapism and fantasy are good to an extent and the happiness they bring is worth remembering and cherishing, but you shouldn't be afraid to move on when the time comes. Tenna's story pretty much spells it out.
>>528370383Not really alone actually its a sizable and diverse group of people, and the ice is already shattered like glass due to how social stigma works.
I'm just saying there's a lot of people who delude themselves. Assume you are different and that there is no real world appeal for these real world concepts when applied to fiction. You'd be silly to think that's how all or even most people work. It's more than likely the distinction is a shield. You're not gonna deny that most people would lie about such a thing, yea?
>>528370667A dude straight up jacking off and cumming on a picture of Noelle
>>528370667Anon shooting a load onto Noelle Holiday (real)
>>528370667Anon came on a picture of Noelle
>>528370667dude jerking off onto a picture of noelle
>>528370645Cuckdoe watching her slut of a boyfriend become the college carousel...
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im gonna be real, my favorite posters here are the mild thread personalities. not being overly obnoxious abt it but you can see individuals over time. the guy who says good morning in British time with the same ralsei breaking down door image every day.
>>528370564, with the berdlys and caps. etc etc
>>528370594Can we put the SOUL on "vibrate"
all that talk about soul sex earlier just makes me want to reread suplex of the heart
>>528370684This is also the message of Skies Forever Blue. All things naturally end, so cherish those memories.
Reminder that the Undertale SOUL would beat the shit out of the Deltarune SOUL
>>528370823sorry, you're going to have to move it around manually. spam left and right. its a minigame
I don't give a FUCK about Kris. He's a shitlord traitor. Let ME bond with the fictional characters.
>>528370735High quality gems? On this site?
>>528370615Why would anyone live in Arizona
STOP WANTING TO FUCK KRIS OR PROJECT FUCKING KRIS THROUGH DESS OR SOMEONE ELSE ITS WEIRD OK PLEASE STOP IT
It's still up if anyone wants to contribute, i went to bed and woke up to many greats arts, love you guys
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>These are OUR friends not HIS.
But I only like susie.
>>528370090>Kris has had a birdcage for the soul since before the game even startedThere's nothing indicating that the birdcage has been there a long time. For all we know, they got it just before the start of the game and used the wagon to drag it home from wherever they got the player SOUL from.
>>528370913where the hell do you think you are nigga
>>528370889my SOUL is undertale has naught even a single EXP albeit
>>528370663I had fun killing all the Undertale characters but I don't know if I could do it in Deltarune. Killing Susie would feel really weird.
>>528370717>>528370728>>528370730>>528370754>>528370771https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/v.vg/filename/Noelle%20sop.mp4/
>>528370889don't powerscale them until deltarune is finished so we can see what crazy shit snowgrave gets you
Kris shoving the Soul inside their ass.
So this might be obvious by now but
The Delta Rune itself is:
>The Triangles = The characters, Kris, Susie, and Ralsei
>The Angel = The Angel in the prophecy. Not Noel as people theorized.
The Angel is the player. If this game is predicated around a game ending Toby saw in a Fever dream in 2011, I'm assuming it's been an impact on his psyche for a while and that it might be based on something Toby has seen in real life.
I'm 100% betting it all represents the ending as a meta-plot contrivance ala Earthbound's ending where the player was tricked earlier in the game into giving their real name in an extremely forgettable event, and then the player's name is brought up again at the very climax and they are made into a "character" that helps the protagonists defeat Giygas. The player becomes "the Angel" and directly stops the Roaring while directly bringing closure to your issues with Kris.
We only see darkness in the scene where Ralsei shows what the "angel actually looks like" and it's because it's meant to be a dark screen with the player's face reflected in it.
Deltarune ends with a meta-plot trick like Earthbound/Mother 3 with the player SOUL itself - as it has already been doing in Weird Route and other places - becoming a direct character. In some big meta-twist, you, the player's name, will be spoken at some point in the end and (You) resolve the ending of UT/DR in some meta plot device. This also will resolve the multiverse built by Gaster involving Undertale and set the stage while resolving the reset multiverse of UT, being both an ending and a prequel to UT explaining how Sans knows 'the player', he recognizes you as the SOUL from DR.
No idea how this ends with the delta rune ending up in UT's timeline though, maybe just a coincidence
>>528370913anon what the fuck are you talking about? womp womp? you're playing the lesbian furry game ofc people are going to be into rape and unhealthy relationships
>>528370942Thatd still be before the player got involved. Kris would have no real idea of what we're actually like, but he very clearly doesnt like us to start
>>528370913Androgynous characters are so cute though! And they're such a tsundere, it's irresistible!
>>528370896given that the soul, if making the right choices, is genuinely the only person on susie's side through everything you might get your wish
Watch as skies forever blue spoils Susie's end game as Susie x Player
>>528370913>STOP WANTING TO FUCK KRISMake me
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>>528371005oops, didnt see it
also whoever drew Tenna with cat ears, my life is yours...
>>528370895finally my snaptap keyboard will see some use
>>528370698Sure people lie, same way some furrys are actual zoophiles, same way some completely vanilla religious seeming people molest their kids, it's not something you should assume.
>>528371007Banishing the player would SUCK.
>>528371053Man I hope. I'd love for Toby to acknowledge we're the only one actually making Kris sociable and likable.
>>528371053Susie would absolutely attack (you) and take you out of Kris, only for Kris to betray her right after to get the plan back on track.
>>528370104man at this point the only character I have any faith in is (and I suspect this is the intended feeling) Susie
because there's nothing that pisses me off more than people who don't tell you the whole deal
>>528370336I don't know how you can see basically any scene of Susie interacting with Lancer/Ralsei/Gerson and think the game is going for a trite "escapism is... le bad!" message
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>baste
I dont see the cactus needle in her arm, non cannon.
>>528371134Maybe not. But i think its closer to a coinflip than the odd one out, especially with the way some people talk online
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>>528371232Sure keep thinking that and I hope you tell the wrong person someday.
https://x.com/turboemmy/status/1935431664412541153
>>528371158Yeah it's going to be a slightly uphill battle, but after all you need a soul to seal fountains. She HAS to give you a chance, and you'll prove youre genuine wont you?
>>528370913Filthy doe hands typed this post
>>528369184I sound less faggy than that.
>>528371079It's a tragedy that as Kris aged his prankster bullying of Noelle didn't evolve into sexual bullying
>>528370801THE SMEGMA CHIN
>>528371253...am I going to get murdered?? what
>>528371412That doesnt involve fake blood, spiders or electrical outlets so why would they care
>>528370913Anon, we all know Suselle is endgame and Kress is the sad bitter ship where both of them die.
I swear, you people see pink and yellow, and think, oh! A friend!
>>528370913Kris typed this post
>>528370896Only good post Iโve read with a picrel of kris attached, based, based, BASED
imagine being so fat you look at a computer and think about sex
>doe is for ____
snowgraving nerds.
>>528371520this is true, but I really wish it wasn't. suselle is unbelievably mid. just about anything else would be more compelling in terms of plot and character development.
>>528371559Why would Kris care
>goth Noelle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l2hA8g1cNvQ
>At least 5 months until chapter 5
>At most 18 MONTHS
I'd almost have preferred no release window since at least I could just assume it's going to be another 4 years and forget about it.
>>528371041Kris equally dislikes the SOUL regardless of what you actually do (on the normal route, obviously.) Their issue with it seemingly stems from the lack of control rather than any specific issue. Presumably they had some idea of what shoving a foreign source of willpower into them would do.
>>528371007While I agree with your post and think it would be a good thing if it played out like that, I will say something:
When I played Earthbound, I used my real name.
When I played Undertale, I used my online nickname.
It was a good thing I did so and I will forever consider Toby a dickhead for making you name the first fallen human, the biggest villain in the game.
It is the reason why I used a fake name for Deltarune.
Fuck you, Toby Fox!
>>528371320Absolutely, after all if she realizes she was actually friends with me and Kris was lying to her the entire time then I got myself a loyal ally
>>528371586Tenna, we know you are mad at spamton for using his laptop to browse red boards instead of watching porno tapes on you, but you need to go to a shrink, not 4chan
>>528371445MOLESTING HUMANS
>>528371731The problem is that the soul is SUPPOSED to be Kris and not a separate consciousness but for some reason it is and they're actively working against each other.
>>528371586Surprised people still reference Dobson in 2025
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Opened up the /doe/ thread out of curiosity and was reminded at how annoyingly autistic it is. I get being annoyed at the tired rape memes, but there are a group of people there that try to police anything they find personally gross to them and drive anyone out that disagrees with them. I'd like to say that not all Noelle fans are like that, because I'm really embarrassed to be associated with those people. And yes I'm a bit autistic too typing all this but I blame the meds I just took to help me sleep. Sorry.
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>"When I played Earthbound, I used my real name."
>i've played undertale and it's better than earthbound because earthbound is bad.
ok dude.
>>528370663>>528370963UT Genocide was easy because they unironically deserved it. Frisk can canonically remember every time that they're killed. Expecting a child to "keep a certain tenderness in their heart" and set all of these adults- who gutted them, ate them, immolated them, and took their soul- on dates was bullshit from the start. The ending with Chara was awful because it tried to invalidate Frisk/player's feelings with >you were possessed lol
In DR, Kris is emotionally, physically, and maybe sexually abused by the monsters in their life. I wouldn't be surprised if they were ready to go Geno until Susie became their friend.
>>528371935if you hate gross things why do you go on trash?
>>528372018For the same reason Noelle likes to scare herself
>>528371158Yeah, but she'll realize the player is the good guy as long as you're not on the weird route. After that, you'll battle and re-recruit Ralsei, and then do the same for Kris to reunite the gang. Each fight will be harder than the last, both in terms of attacks and how hard it is to convince them to join you.
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>>528372010>In DR, Kris is emotionally, physically, and maybe sexually abused by the monsters in their lifeJust grow up, none of this was that bad.
I looked through the ch3 board 1 quizzes to see if the Ralsei and Susie's assigned guess answers gave any interesting insights into what they know and... not really.
Susie's favorite Smashing Fighters character is purple dragon (at least of the options presented)
Ralsei wrongly thought Kris's favorite food was chocolate.
Ralsei surprisingly missed a lot of questions that someone as attentive as him should have gotten: the show slogan, Pippin's name, and the name of the forest surrounding Card Castle stood out to me.
It really seemed like the kind of place Toby would sneak something interesting. Oh well.
It only just occurred to me that Rouxls's dance is the Monkey dance from Johnny Bravo.
I will now always read his lines as Bravo in my head.
>>528372141Ralsei doesn't actually know everything about Kris or even Asriel because he's actually an object of Susie's, most likely her safety blanket
https://x.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1936420003261370854
>>528372062>and then do the same for KrisDamn it but I don't *want* to reunite with Kris. He has been nothing but mean to me since the day I took control of his life.
Kris and Noelle having a good time at the self harm party
Jevil aint' working, switching back to sans.
>>528372061It Turns You ON?
>>528372141the most interesting answer was the ralsei plush price, where ralsei thinks his value is lower than eight dollars, sad!
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>>528371828>and they're actively working against each other.are we actively working against each other? so far i feel like we're just doing what kris actually wants us to do. they're just pissed about our existence.
>>528372247Why else would you go to /trash/?
>>528371935those threads have no value outside of archiving (which /doe/ can't even do properly, unlike /sus/)
remember, trash is a containment board
>>528372010>and maybe sexually abusedPlease play the game instead of believing random fetish posts here
>>528372010>and maybe sexually abused by the monsters in their lifeHeadcanon
>>528372315>(which /doe/ can't even do properly, unlike /sus/Elaborate
>>528372275do you not see him plotting against us, stopping us from getting information, cooperating with the enemy, and being generally antagonistic to us?
>>528372220This will happen in the final Knight battle
>>528372010toriel and papyrus are pretty much the only innocents in the entire underground. toriel actively tries to stop you from getting into danger, and when you are determined to do it anyway, tries to make you prove you can handle the danger. papyrus is a literally just an innocent child in a dystopian world.
>>528372230go back to jevil posting.
>>528372141The thing that I found most interesting is that Ralsei takes so long to answer the Lancer question and is willing to get it wrong (unlike Susie).
>>528372224Forcing Kris to kneel before the power of friendship is the ultimate revenge
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>>528372405would be crazy if Lancer IS the real prince of the dark
>>528372354their greentext archive got report-nuked by some discord raid
>>528371462No, Just Kinda Confused?
Or Perhaps Surprised?
I've Never Read An Anon Say Something Like That
https://files.catbox.moe/0hxpg6.mp4
What would be the thematic/narrative point of the Weird Route if it just ended with "Great going idiot, you tried to get a better ending for everyone and just fucked up everything around you."? Because that's where it seems like it's going with Ralsei openly wondering of whether or not it's worse than the prophecy's ending.
Does Kris retain full facial autonomy? I'm pretty sure we never get to influence his face besides the close your eyes scenes.
>>528372508Report nuked how? Did their service provider pull the plug or something after receiving a bunch of reports?
>>528372534>you tried to get a better ending for everyoneI don't think anyone doing the weird route is trying to get a better ending "for everyone"
>>528372360my point is that kris is working on their own thing regardless of what we want. we actually have no opportunity to work against them really apart from maybe the weird route but we don't even know what's really going on there.
>go back to jevil posting.
Does not give me the stimmies I need, sorry.
>>528372546Probably. The player has no reason to control his face and it seems like the most consistently expressive part of him, even if we can't see it.
>>528366134I got ADHD and I had a great time. Git gud scrub
>>528372405Lancer is just "the pointy-headed one" in the prophecy. Also Ralsei is racist against other Darkners.
the thematic narrative of weird route is freedom and the ends not justifying the means
I love when people draw their OCs to ship with a character
>>528372010Chara became swayed to murder because of us and Frisk. Buying Friskโs soul and possessing them is just a consequence of that
>>528372558That's how it usually goes. That's how a lot of greens were lost when pastebin went apeshit and purged the nsfw.
>>528372670I hope one day we get a full Darkner Uncle Ruckus moment out of Ralsei.
>>528372607doing stuff they don't want us to do IS working against them, anon. the fact they stop us at every opportunity in noelle's house is proof of that.
>>528368009That's because he hasn't been forced to deal with FRIEND yet.
He'll come around, just you wait...
>>528372694I hate that. Either pick a character to ship or draw a blank anon
>Susie slammed Kris in a locker? A-OK!
>RALSEI TOLD SUSIE TO STEP ASIDE SO HE COULD HEAL KRIS? RALSIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
Actual Twitch Chat opinions
>>528372476I don't think Lancer meets the alone requirement for the Prince hero.
Really seems like it actually was Ralsei all along or was supposed to be Asriel.
>>528372765NTA but t's essentially a self-insert, no?
>>528372316>>528372346To play devil's advocate, I guess you COULD interpret the therapy sessions as relating to a SA, and with the Weird route, a continuing cycle of abuse with the given metaphors. But that's not happening.
>>528372528fair lol (I am strange)
...the catbox makes me wonder what the heck a personality reversed Susie would look like. respectful but uncaring, maybe?
>>528372719I anticipate the inevitable ralsei crashout SO MUCH
>>Kris vs Dess
>Describe it
Gerson saves kris and BTFO's dess.
>>528372768who are you quoting vigger
>>528372694Of course Gaster has to be taller...
>>528372694(Canon X OC) IS THE WORST
>>528372141>Ralsei wrongly thought Kris's favorite food was chocolate.How did Ralsei make that mistake while simultaneously knowing that Kris likes butterscotch pie?
>>528372717So much was lost when Pastebin did that, not to mention randomly privating stories for accounts that have long since become inactive. Thank god AO3 became the replacement, Pastebin really drove away a ton of users due to that bullshit.
>>528372534Mindraping Noelle multiple times clearly isnโt a good thing. Berdleyโs reaction spells it out even for the most autistic, forcing the ring on her as she backs up and begs you not to is the point of no return
>>528372534>you tried to get a better ending for everyoneI doubt Toby is writing it with delusional retards who think everything will be epicly subverted in mind.
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>>528370813Numbers and ESL berdfag #2 are both retarded and having them as your favorite posters is a sign of a low IQ.
>>528372768People tend to hate Ralsei and find justifications to do it
>>528372862ralsei seems more-or-less limited to the dark worlds. we've seen chocolate heals Kris more, but we haven't really seen any pie in dark worlds, so... maybe that? or ralsei has Undertale knowledge and thinks Kris is Chara?
>>528372862Much like me, he got Kris confused with Chara
>>528372808Maybe A Kuudere?
>>528372661Fight where all our allies get SWOONED one by one, with Kris being the only one left standing. It culminates in Dess allowing Kris to clash with her one last time before letting herself be defeated and finally put to rest.
>>528372534Weird Route is made to be wrong
it's terrible
it's forbidden
it's monstrous
it's unthinkable
it's necessary
>Numbers and ESL berdfag #2 are both retarded and having them as your favorite posters is a sign of a low IQ.
If you have me as your favorite then you have a massive penis. 12 inches and shit.
>>528372915anon, you're on the retardation website. how have you made it more than ten minutes while equating "I like patterns" to "I am retarded"
Knight is Susie's nobody Exsius
>>528372862that or you cant just say its fuckin pie flavored cake, ralsei has to work with what hes got, and all hes got is the box of urinal cakes left in the supply closet. It's like if you tried to give me a Spaghetti flavored cake, what the hell am I supposed to do with that
>>528371202>Quiet people piss me off I feel like that's a thing coming, but we already had a Susie
>WTF DON'T YOU SAY ANYTHINGMoment with Ralsei
>>528372915>ESL berdfag #2Who?
>>528372993that'd fit really well, actually. now that I'm thinking about it, a personality inversion gimmick could be pretty interesting for a dark world.
>>528373047its almost kind of. weird
>>528373105kino
avatarfagging is gay. gimmickposting is gay. i intentionally change up my writing style every few posts to disguise my posting habits. my achilles heel is that i don't have a wide array of images i can attach to my posts
>>528373024But Kris and Dess work together...
>>528372010>The ending with Chara was awful because it tried to invalidate Frisk/player's feelings with >you were possessed lolfor 99% of the game chara is just along for the ride. Chara only possesses Frisk in the end because Chara learned from Frisk's example that the correct way to be a good person is to kill everyone you meet without mercy and is looking forward to doing that together for eternity, only for you to make Frisk suddenly back out and reject Chara for no reason.
If you never do a genocide route, Chara never learns this, and stays just a backseat narrator in Frisk's thoughts
>>528372862But in that screenshot, he still mentions chocolate first. Kris really likes the Choco Diamond in chapter 1 and there's no opportunity to eat ButtsPie in the dark world, so Ralsei has a distorted view on Kris's preferences. Same reason he thinks Kris tea tastes like blueberries (because Kris is blue in the dark world), while Susie thinks it's apple juice (like their shampoo) and Noelle thinks it's cinnamon flavored (like the pie.)
sorry i've actually been avatarfagging as dave strider this whole time
that's why i have all lowercase and no punctuation
is that ok with you
>>528373198Rare tennafag L take. OCs are obnoxious and grating to look at. My condolences for your bad opinion, Tennaqueen/king.
The less Chara and Gaster have to do with Deltarune the better.
>>528367045"Munchkinism" is a Neutral Route (minimal to no sparing), tho. Not a Weird Route. Weird Route is about secrets, glitches, and sequence breaking.
>>528373415This is the fucking Gaster game what are you talking about?
>>528373298images are reused enough here nobody is going to notice anyway. unless you for some reason have a stalker anon there's no reason to bother putting that kind of effort into it
>>528373372I don't care how many times people reference it, im not reading homestuck
>>528373404You're just embarrassed to draw your own OC with fave
>>528373428OCs suck and thereโs no getting around it
>>528372719>>528372808Excerpts from an interview with Ralsei:
>I wake up at about a quarter to 5 every day, that's about 12 hours before most Darkners get up!>I am a very spiritual person, I start each day by thanking the light man for the sun rising, the land I walk on, and the air I breathe. I also apologize for Darkners, lord knows they aren't going to apologize for themselves.>As you can see, I enjoy building shrines to certain special light people who are important in my life. This one's dedicated to Susie, great light woman. Didn't take shit from Darkners, Yellow lizards, nor Skeletons. This one here's dedicated to Kris Dreemur, the most SOULful pianist to EVER live!
>>528367090>>New Malius fusions (obviously)Not going to happen until you recruit a bread-baking expert
>Lightners Live has a chart editorIt's not a dev's job to make (You) a editor. That's fandom's job.
>>528373602still yearning for your dead bitch huh
>OCs suck and thereโs no getting around it
you are the titan and ocGODS are gerson.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rp4tGqRhWA
>>528373657Nah I think that's Dess.
especially if she's got guitar string wires connected to stuff
>>528369470he was studying determination and injecting it into various things. Along the way he discovered how to make purer and purer darkness as a byproduct. Presumably from injecting determination into inanimate objects and/or the ground itself
they say he 'fell into his invention' but that could just be what sans and papyrus believe happened, or even just the way sans decided to tell it. Could be at the bottom of his machine he opened a dark fountain and fell into the depths. could be he turned himself into a hyper darkner of sorts, a being too far removed from the light to actually be seeable except in conditions with negative amounts of light. Either way, his existence got scattered across the macrocosm
>>528373427best homestuck character
>>528373276Sounds Interesting In Paper
But How It Would Be In Practice?
How Would Characters Change Or Grow, If Their Personality Suddenly Switch Inside The Dark Worlds?
>>528373643time is canonically our bitch and tenna shows up in castle town before you give him to le ghost, he is literally alive
>>528373720experimenting with determination, the thing specifically specified to be what lighteners infuse into their blades to make dark fountains
>>528373731Dave fucking sucked, dude. He was just Hussie's self insert and that got really obvious and annoying after a while.
Striders as a whole suck ass.
>>528368243god he's so swole
>>528373792hussie's self insert? you mean vriska?
>>528373459Toby would be wise to keep the game theory bullshit out of it. Secrets and Easter Eggs are fine but if Gaster was unironically an important character it would age horribly.
>>528372862How much does Ralsei ACTUALLY know about Kris, anyway?
He knows about the clasroom, but does he think his skin is naturally blue due to the taste of Kris' tea?
Doesn't sound like a fuckup a headband that Kris had as a kid could possibly make.
>>528373637But there's a partial chart editor already in the code, they just need to finish it.
>>528373775probably something celeste-ish? probably more along the lines of "the source objects of these darkness is an image of the lighteners created with malice, so they function as the worst traits of the characters"
>>528373415As Goner Kid said "Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same... except you don't exist?" - there will be no Frisk nor Chara
>>528373785that post wasn't about tenna
>"best homestuck character:
>not caliborn
lies
>>528373731Oh I thought it was some Undertale Deltarune guy I missed
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>>528373824Vriska is Hussie's waifu, not his self-insert
>>528373825Not really. The Deltarune website had wingdings in it years ago before the first chapter demo even released. It would be terrible writing if all those hints were just for nothing.
>>528373847sorry i havent read it in 6 years
is this better for you
>>528373882the game saved the creation info of the vessel. it'll be used later
>>528374016God I fucking hope so
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>>528373957(me) forgot the relevant image
>>528373957How is it "terrible writing" if by your own admission it existed before the game itself existed? Or rather, how is it good writing if it doesn't exist at all in the game's narrative?
>>528373825Gaster's already an important character, he's the voice at the start of the game.
The best Homestuck character is Jade, who got unfairly treated by the narrative later on because Hussie broke up with the girlfriend he based her on. Let's all pray that Toby doesn't get dumped by whoever he's dating.
>playing Deltarune the fighting game
>go online
>Kris
I disconnect
>Susie
I disconnect
>Dess
I disconnect
>play against anyone else
I have a great time
>>528374096The best character is Jack and itโs not even close, Anon.
>>528374063The first person you talk to in the game is Gaster himself and the character creation process is literally called Goner Maker.
https://youtu.be/435XovwgMQ0
This shit goes hard
And honestly it might not even be that far off from the later chapters of deltarune. In a vibes way I mean, the story and themes are completely unrelated
>>528373825Too late
The guy talks to you at the end of ch4 and says "My Deltarune". Even the most typical casual fan at this point would be thinking "who's this narrator guy and what's his deal" and would want to see that payoff. We already have a bunch of non-meta mysteries anyways this whole game is already "speculationslop" so what's another cryptic mystery gonna do.
>>528373957So you want the game to age horribly is what you're saying? 20 years from now nobody is going to remember that shit. >Well you see the true mastermind being Gaster is actually a huge payoff due to secrets pointing to his significance since Toby's first game Undertale in 2015
>The best Homestuck character is Jade,
*loud incorrect buzzer*
>>528373874I Know Jack Shit Of Celeste. So Lets Just Say, "Sure"
But People Did Say That King Space Was Kind Of A Representation/Mirror To Susie Herself In Some Kind
>>528369671
>>528374096the best character is an inanimate object
I refuse to specify which
>>528374096The best character is Skittles McGee and you know it.
>>528374173>no jevil on this listgee who could be behind this post
>>528373825the gaster deniers will never make sense to me. cmon, the entry 17 sound? darker yet darker and dark worlds? using the name boots you? etc etc
the information in Undertale and online will not be vital to the mystery. they will be supporting evidence.
>>528374254I have plenty of green dogcock images to prove you wrong but I hardly need to put in the effort
>>528374251Toby doesn't give a shit about the game "aging horribly". There's the entire Mike boss and a fucking Amogus joke for crying out loud.
Is it normal for a low-fidelity pixel art RPG to take so long to make development started 9 years before WWIII
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>just saw Tenna fan art where he has a blueish tongue
The sexyman fandom tropes NEVER die
>>528373697Good morning, fren! Did you sleep well?
>>528374189You answered none of the questions, wonderful, instead, I am told some letters are assumed to be Gaster, which has yet to have any relevance beyond replacing Annoying Dog as a Toby insert
>>528374213>speculationslopIs there anything that isn't slop
>>528370662There isnโt a lot of dubcon gifs of them on aO3, but I have a few that are explicit/mature I could link that are good if you want.
>>528374373>everything's gonna be fire
>>528374318How Can Ditchu Be So LAZY Sometimes
>>528374357blame Toby's goner hand. The piano ate his real hand and he had to go to Gaster's to get a new goner hand. It sucks at doing anything. That's why the game's taking so long to make
>I have plenty of green dogcock images
That's sad.
>>528374439Autocorrect mb, I meant fics instead of gifs
Deltarune! It took 12 years to make!
>>528373825I agree with you. The ties to Undertale are the worst thing about Deltarune.
DR is such a good story it's almost hard to play knowing that the ending is just going to be
>SANS! HAHA! SANS UNDERTALE! GET IT?
>>528374348It starts to make sense when you realize Toby has been abusing this mystery to build hype for his unfinished game
>>528374437You have a brain. Use it. There are actual characters in Undertale mentioning Gaster by name, and Toby strongly recommends playing Undertale before Deltarune. The idea that Gaster is some collective fever dream hallucinated by the fandom is pushed by tourists like you who only became a fan of the game very recently.
>Nothing kind of mysterious matters or will have payoffs because uhhhhh just because okay
I think these are the guys who got mad that the Shadow Crystal bosses didn't "follow the pattern properly"
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>>528374386yes, i slept well, thank you fren. how are you today?
>>528374448INFERNO!
>>528374173>get a clueless noelle or spamton playermmmmmmmmmmmm free fucking ranking points
>>528374357Yes, redrawing everything to look worse takes at least 3 years of development time. That's why the game is good.
>>528374318Funny thing about this Ditchu artist, he "exposed" his girlfriend for drawing 'problematic content', abusing his audience into mass reporting her patreon and substar and such, cutting her off from monetizing her work.
This was widely considered to be abuse and an attempt by Ditchu to deprive his girlfriend of agency and money.
>>528374448Where did his horns go
>>528374173>Noelle is finelol
lmao
>>528374589Average Discord drama, who cares
One of the rare times I'm glad to a permasingle dude
Is there anyone who still doesn't believe in reverse UT after Chapters 3 and 4?
>>528374595Confiscated by the IRS
>>528374549Gerson alone already disproves the "no payoffs because Toby's a troll who loves subverting expectations" folks. He was mentioned several times in the first chapter and there's a scene with his son standing next to his grave in chapter 2 that clearly teases the events of chapter 4.
>>528374589well i didn't know that, i just remembered that fun sprite animation
Gaster x Player will not only be canon but he will reach through your computer screen and touch your face in Real Life
>>528374561I'm doing great! Slept like a log.
just realized, if chapter 5 is a town-wide dark fountain, then burgerpants might actually meet a darkner version of pizzarina
>>528374670I did but "Field of Pink and Gold" with an "Inferno" and an Asgore focused chapter has be second guessing it. That doesn't sound very Snowdin-y
>>528374665>Discord dramaThis word doesnt mean shit does it
Guy gets shot and raped in the back of an alleyway, dumb ass discord drama
>>528374713are allowed to suck his fingers
>>528374750>>528374670Chapter 5 will diverge in different fountains based on the route
Weird route will have ICE-E's
Normal route has Flower King (Ruins)
>>528374750only on weird route does it resemble snowdin
>>528374578You keep saying that but I keep turning you into an ICE-E cosplayer, Nerdly.
Considering how fast things escalated in Chapter 3 and 4 I'm expecting townwide fountain in Chapter 5, Roaring in chapter 6, and Angel's Heaven fever dream in Chapter 7
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>>528374719glad to hear! i wish you a continued good day fren.
>>528374686ralsei no !
that's not lean, that's denatured alcohol !
>>528374549Some people think theorizing about anything is inherently cringe and wrong even if the work clearly encourages you to do so. They've all latched onto the Mike fight as proof that Toby really does hate theories, just like them, and will prove them all wrong out of pure spite, when it's clearly an affectionate parody at worst and even has some minor ties to important mysteries.
>>528374546>how is it good writing if it has nothing to do with the story?>how is it bad writing if the game itself hasnt been made yet?>use your brain!Since you don't have one yourself, you can't answer these at all. Gaster is a noncharacter. What are the motives? Personality? "Good writing."
https://youtu.be/MAfd02R8W-U?t=1340
>killing the singing cat in sword route's last dungeon section plays the weird route jingle
>no other kill in this section does this
But why
>>528374713will he set fire to the rain?
I think Deltarune isn't meta enough.
There needs to be interlude chapters where characters in the meta layer sit at a table and discuss what happened during the previous chapter.
>>528374903Catty will definitely be killed on the weird route.
>>528374793Well damn I didn't say that
>>528374750The Holiday mansion is cold and has a garden, the Flower King has a fridge for the flowers, if it's the Festival it might just start snowing
There's good reasons for all the potential chapter 5 spots to be cold at least
>>528374903singing cat is catti
If i cast my fishing rod in a dark fountain then can I catch a fish from the depths?
The Goner Grass in Man Country is Papyrus and Sans's original world, with "green grass, and..."
>>528374919Oughh.. cold pussy....
>>528374942the purple one who plays the guitar and sings isn't the singing purple cat?
>>528374903>we will kill Catti
>>528374862Thanks! You too!
>>528374902We're only halfway through the game. We don't even learn who Asriel is in Undertale until near the end of the Neutral route. The difference here is we already know who Gaster is from Undertale, and it's clear that he has his hands all over Deltarune if you aren't some contrarian retard who thinks Toby puts stuff in his games for no reason.
>>528374916doctor who just had an episode like that lmao, not even joking
Sans is not allowed to do the glowing eye thing in Deltarune.
>>528375003CattY.
CattI will take revenge on us though so we probably kill both
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>>528374958Are they revenants, or did Man Country also have skeleton monsters who speak in fonts
>>528374916>(You) and Gaster stuck in a room theorycrafting until he learns how to make his DELTARUNE active for one more day
>>528374903Isn't that just the puzzle solved jingle for that area? Killing that particular cat activates all the white cats which is necessary to Proceed at least
>>528375024heh, but i am allowed to do the glowing bone thing, if ya catch my drift kiddo
>>528374981Anons always mix up Catty and Catti
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>>528374956You'll just fish out a friend.
>>528375040Honestly, the 2nd is just as likely
Beta Papyrus was "RAISED BY A NEWSPAPER" (monochrome)
and called himself a "MAN's MAN"
>>528374501 https://archiveofourown.org/works/66677269/chapters/172021750
https://archiveofourown.org/works/66773572
https://archiveofourown.org/works/66558763
>Citywide fountain
>Sans's house is near the middle of town
>We're due for a blue soul fight
Uh oh.
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I'm really, really curious about how the apparent Hometown massacre is going to work in-game
Doing it as a bunch of random fights wouldn't be very scary at least
>we are going to murder catty to piss off catti and then kill her, too
WEIRD ROUTE KINO
>>528375013>we already know who Gaster is from UndertaleIf you have cultural osmosis yeah. If you just played Undertale blind you wouldn't have even heard the name Gaster because he is literal hidden in the files bullshit.
>>528375168>Beta Papyrus was "RAISED BY A NEWSPAPER"I thought that was just Toby's reaction to genuinely naming a character "Times New Roman"
lmao
https://x.com/JustSiter/status/1936494535703433696
>>528375223Kris summons the Titans and uses the Roaring to genocide everyone.
>>528375191The SOUL color fights have all been replacements for ones in Undertale we missed so I dunno if it's gonna be Sands Underdale of Stronger Than You fame
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>>528375249No, you can encounter Gaster followers randomly and hear about Gaster's story without even looking at the files. That mystery man speculated to be Gaster? You can even enter that room he's in legitimately without manipulating the game files.
>>528375265>Neat character jobs and is instantly killed off to prove how powerful some other faggot isIm getting tired of this
>>528375265>Every time the Knight is getting pushed Kris has to run in and save its assThere has to be some shonen agenda thing this corresponds to right
>>528375296I hate this shitty Asriel design so much. So glad Ralsei exists so people can draw actual cute goat boys.
anyone got sauce on this pic posted earlier? couldnt find the artist at all
>>528375013Since you cannot admit there is no writing for Gaster, but bring up Asriel, let me finish that thought FOR you: Asriel ALSO was a noncharacter, until, by your own words, the LAST part of Undertale. So now IMAGINE I had an idiot tell me in the Mettaton portion of Undertale, that it's the dead prince who is behind it all! We can talk about the writing when it is WRITTEN, but as of right NOW, absolute headcanon that Toby uses to get suckers like you to do the imagination work for him and hype up his game
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>>528375191You think it'll be Sans? How cute
the most unfunny video ever created
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiePjdunvAU
>>528375265>powerscaliong arguments in the commentsanime makes people retarded
>Play Undertale
>Wow wee what a video game I must find out more I better go talk about this online
>Who is "Gaster"
This is the canon playthrough that leads into Deltarune
>>528375332we did miss catching Sans off guard and killing him in one hit
it's going to be funny, trust me
>>528375445Asriel is plenty cute too, he has that 90s/early 2000s big brother vibe
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>>528375524Gaster beats Goku
>>528375462You're the retard claiming that Gaster becoming important later on is bad writing because it goes against your headcanon about Toby being a troll who just puts stuff in his games for no reason other than to bait theorists.
>>528375223You sacrifice Hometown to fulfill the last part of the prophecy rather than killing everyone individually
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>>528374096the best homestuck character is spades slick
>>528375462go back, bulmashart
>>528375462Different person here, beyond anythingt I will never understand why you and alot of other people act like toby is some troll, and I can only assume the jokes about when he lived in andrew hussie's basement has rotted people's brains.
Yeah man, I'm sure toby roleplaying on social media everytime a new chapter comes out is some le epic meme!!!!!!!!
>>528375191It's obviously a full power Papyrus fight with his real special attack.
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if we're doing the theory of "missed undertale fights"
chapter 2... mettaton neo... yellow soul...
chapter 4... gerson... green soul...
chapter 6... gaster... blue soul...?
This is going to be the longest year ever
The mystery guy you talk to at the start of the game who has Gaster's Theme playing when you meet him and also has all the 666 Gaster stuff associated with him in the code in the game that keeps referencing the Dark Darker yet Darker thing the dude from Entry 17 talks about has had more dialogue and appearances so far than Flowey had before the end of the neutral route
>>528375747No bulmabrap doesnโt even like this game, he just comes here to socialize
>>528375697why is it spaced like original starwalker
>>528375794Chapter 5 since reverse Undertale is in play
>>528375783Please Toby, that's all I want
>>528375462People literally predicted Asriel being important and Flowey after the UT demo long before the game released.
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>>528375892explain this theory to me
Toby might as well confirm that Sans is Ness too. Get all the hecking game theories in there.
>>528375896>The literal mascot of the game is going to be important!Yeah, no shit. Even when I first played it as a 10 year old, I instantly predicted that Flowey will be the final boss.
>>528375654And you're the retard who seems to think some sprites and music files is a character, or worse, some text that prompts up outside the main narrative is a character. By your logic, the "Game Over" words are a character. Maybe Toby has some secret plans for Mr. Game Over! That would impress you, right? Omg he's in Undertale AND Delatarune what does it all mean?!
Keep sucking Toby's cock
>>528375794gaster's stats are stupidly high so that can't be it
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>>528375961https://litter.catbox.moe/irewiwhjy00ufgin.mp4
>>528375920Deltarune chapters follow Undertale's in reverse
>Chapter 1 - New Home>Chapter 2 - CORE>Chapter 3 - Hotland>Chapter 4 - Waterfall>Chapter 5 - Snowdin>Chapter 6 - Ruins
>>528375809And why would anyone know that shit unless they are terminally online?
>>528375985No I meant people with only the demo to go on predicted that Flowey was Asriel and was related to Toriel.
>>528375956>Toby might as we-ACK
>>528375994Gaster is a character. We learned his story in Undertale, you know, the game Toby recommends first time players to play before Deltarune.
>>528375479No, Grandpa Semi is the Eggman
Not too important, not too unimportant. Semi Important. Always "between" two places
>>528376042Terminally online game
>>528375809This doesn't seem true but maybe it's just because I autistically replayed the demo over and over when it came out so I saw all the variations of Flowey's monologue at the end of the ruins
>>528376071>ACKbegone, /v/tard
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>>528375920Chapter 1 - New Home
Chapter 2 - The Core
Chapter 3 - Hotland with the TV stuff
Chapter 4 - Waterfall
Chapter 5 - Snowdin
Chapter 6 - Ruins
Chapter 7 - Outside
Chapter 0 - True Lab
>>528376041chapter 3 has nothing to do with hotland, in fact it's cold according to susie
case closed
>>528376132Cooking show, Quiz show, red color scheme, desert/tropic island themed areas
>>528376132>chapter 3 has nothing to do with hotlandretard or baiting? you decide.
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>>528375994It's incredibly unlikely that anyone will stumble upon the eggs in Deltarune in their first playthrough. Doesn't mean they're not important.
>>528376171I have to respect this guy for liking Asriel and the โAsriel is literally Ralseiโ theory so much to repeatedly draw it out multiple times.
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somehow you fags make on topic discussion more obnoxious than off topic gender discussion
>>528376282what a nice girl
So until the berdly fight where you actually kill him how is Snowgrave "evil"? None of them are real
>>528376076Then stop wasting time and answer the questions. Motive? Personality? Halfway through the game, remind me of his role? Or is it all non existent until this supposed revelation that we will get in 5 years or however long Toby can string you along? And you say this is NOT headcanon? How is it anything but
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>>528376198Don't forget the literal video game you play on a TV just like Hotland
>>528376306you're bruteforcing Noelle's character development
>>528376306Back to the Expedition 33 threads with your ass.
>>528376291Two genders, also bis are cheaters and just confused gays
>>528375351NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED NEED!
>>528376306You have to it intimidate Noelle into freezing puzzles, something Kris doesnโt want to do, so youโre hurting both of them, which messes up Noelle to the point of complete subservience.
>>528375223something like this maybe
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>>528376309All we know is that Gaster's involved in the story, and no, that isn't headcanon as there is an armada of evidences supporting it. We don't know the full extent of his role because we're only halfway through the story. Is that hard to comprehend?
>>528376198what desert tropic island areas are in hotland? and what paralels to waterfall are in chapter 4? this seems like reaching
>>528376414this is the creature that will impregnate susie
>>528376306Stop being racist against your own kind, Ralsei
>>528376309Now do this with Frieza you retarded /a/ tourist
When you look at the code there's the line
>I, your humble servant, will follow you to the utmost
Then, there is the vending machine which has the item SMILE (in all caps, like a lot of the other secret-related tracks) with the description
>Always at your humble servive
Which then stops selling them after the boss fight where you fight bunch of smiling DEVICE_FRIEND-looking enemies
It seems that datamining is already intended within the confines of Deltarune and we are meant to make a connection between these two facts
>>5283763061. Noelle is real
2. Darkners are real as long as the Fountain is open.
3. Obviously no one is going to arrest or lynch you in real life if you play other routes, so...
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>>528376517Yeah, Friend isn't literally Chara but it's the "chara side" of Kris
>>528376535Can you post the one where itโs revealed Ralsei is Asriel
it's not gay unless the souls touch
Speculation on where the Twisted Sword will be used?
>>528376463>literally waterfalls everywhere>Gerson>green soul mode fight>telescope>walls covered in lore
>>528376645I actually think it will be used to separate Dess from the Knight (which is an amalgamate trapping her soul)
>>528376645Something approximating a neutral route where you spared berdley
>>528376645Considering we only need two more crystals to make a pure crystal? probably chapter 6 and 7.
>>528376415No one gives a shit about Kris, that little Antichrist demon bent on the world destruction that gets uppity despite stealing our SOUL from the Vessel.
But yes, be nice to Noelle.
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>>528376590Checking my folder, it doesn't look like I have a revelation picture. I don't think I have that one.
>>528376645opening a dark fountain inside a titan instead of banishing it
>>528376463Tropic island is a hot climate, was meant to refute the "Susie says it's cold" comment or whatever
Also see
>>528376378>and what paralels to waterfall are in chapter 4? Gerson from Waterfall, using Undyne's theme, blue color scheme, most serious part of the game so far, piano playing, Spooktube in Napstablook's house is Jackenstein's theme
>>528376565Burning Eyes is the Chara side of Kris
FRIEND is to the Dark what (You) are to the Light
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>>528376456Finally we get the true answer, which is all we know, is that he's involved. Absolutely nothing beyond that. Noncharacter.
>>528376516Evil galactic tyrant who wants to rule with an iron fist because he's a cocky warlord who has not had any challenges to his power and relishes in it. Motive and personality in one sentence. You guys are too easy.
>>528376691Within a few days Susie became Krisโ best friend, they like their family, and even Noelle/Berdley to an extent, I think assuming they willingly want to end the world and donโt have some higher purpose in collaborating with the knight is presumptuous. We donโt even know if Kris is the one who stole us.
>>528376719Also a lot of literal waterfalls
>>528376687We Need Only One More
>>528376786I think I will stop here. Thanks for posting with me!
>>528376801Kris knowingly helped a knight to start The Roaring in Chapter 4 by summoning a Titan. This has no excuse.
>>528376842horrible repugnant little creachur
>>528376748>FRIEND is to the Dark what (You) are to the LightI am excited for Deltarune PvP
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>>528376910thank you too fren! :D
>>528376645To open the secret path to [H E A V E N]
>>528376940Hey, that's infighting!
Everytime I heard the word polyphobic I become 3% more of a nazi
>>528376463>what paralels to waterfall are in chapter 4? this seems like reaching>Green soul fight>Gerson>Prophecy>Telescope>Falling Water that pushes you down>Prominent Water>Interactive Piano>Maze in darkness you illuminate briefly to navigate>Clanking armored footsteps>Tutu>Tea healing items>Mid point of the game There's probably more connections i'm missing. It feels undeniable to me.
>>528376940Wait what PVP? Is that some leaks of chapter 5 are we getting PVP?!??!?
>>528376748Susie might have more light than us, tho
Battle Against a True Hero will be remixed as part of Susie's battle theme if Kris fights her in the weird route.
>>528376984Polymerization *fuses with chairiel*
the final boss will be FRIEND, right?
>>528376517>I, your humble servant, will follow you to the utmostIt's simply Chara accepting the fact that he is your playable CHARActer in any game. If Chara were in Deltarune, he would start to feel jealous of Kris to player.
>>528377030does the Knight have more Darkness than FRIEND?
>>528377107The Angel
FRIEND might be the villain pulling the strings but Noelle as the Angel will be the last boss
>>528377080>Battle Against a True Hero will be remixed as part of *Berdly's battle theme if Kris fights *him in the weird route.
>>528376645There will be a "second" opportunity to get a thorn ring in chapter 5, which is flower-themed to some degree. This is actually the intended way to get the ring. Spamton selling you the ring in chapter 2 was just creepypasta sequence-breaking. You also have to get the fifth crystal from the chapter's bonus boss. Then you have to fight Seam to get the purified crystal. Finally you can fuse the sword and use it in chapter 6 or 7 for, uh, something. It has similar stats to the Black Shard, so maybe you need it for another Titan fight.
>>528377027Maining Lancer those dweebs are gonna eat my bike
How do you get to the bits where the voice is gets really excited about you almost beating the Knight, anxiously waits for HIS DELTARUNE, grimly remarks that the world was thrown into darkness when you give up on a game over and also summons you into the world in the first place and then think he has no personality, goals or role
since ralsei also has fire magic
hes the one who will become jealous
>>528376309MOTIVATION: As the one to whisper the prophecy to Ralsei, and from his connections to demonic symbols and numbers, we can gather that he is in some way opposed to the "Angel's Heaven." It is unknown what banishing the Angel's Heaven will lead to, as Susie smashes the last panel, but we know that once it's banished, the Angel will meet with its desire, and both Light and Dark worlds will be saved, implying that Gaster wishes to keep these worlds safe. Furthermore, as the one that contacts us to play DELTARUNE, and through many other symbollic parallels, it is easy to assume we are meant to take the role of The Angel in this prophecy much like both Susie or Noelle can take the role of The Girl.
END GOAL: To banish the Angel's Heaven, for an unknown purpose. To lead the Player to the completion of this story, for an unknown purpose.
PERSONALITY: Cold and critical, analyzing and gets straight to the point. However, when it comes to "his creation" named "DELTA RUNE" he seems to come across as loving and emotional, sometimes even sexual as though he climaxes at the mere thought of seeing the experiment's end result.
ROLE: Handler of the saving system menus, assistant in the creation of The Vessel, previous Royal Scientist from another dimension. Creator of the DT Machine's original blueprints, and creator of the Gaster Blaster.
>>528377149So why are they destined to fight the Deity they're worshipping from the same religion where the prophecy came from?
So the Knight will 100% join our side by the end right
It's the Magus of Deltarune
>>528377215The prophecy is something constructed by outside forces and not meant to be followed as a religion
>>528377190The big bad of ch5 will "steal" susie and kriss away from ralsei making him jealous
>>528377156the berdley version will be the SBaHJ remix
the real remix will be saved for when Susie unlocks Dragon Install
>>528376645Probably a Hollow Knight situation where you need to obtain it to fight the true final boss.
>>528377190this works if the twist is Asriel coming home for the festival
>>528377190Jealous of what?
>>528377192I can't wait for Chapter 7 when all of this is in writing in the game and not schizocanon we have to assume just, because
>>528377215They're breaking destiny, that's the whole point. It's like Sin in Final Fantasy X
>normal route bad ending
Noelle is the final boss after you defeat and kill the Knight
>normal route true ending
You fight Dess and Kris as the penultimate boss fight. FRIEND is the true final boss who pulls the strings.
>>528377192This is the exact type of autism I hope Toby keeps away from Deltarune. He's older now. He should know better.
>>528377030Our light destroyed a Titan though
>>528377176Kris is following the Knight's orders and is fighting our control AND our party members to do it
If we give them a weapon that lowers Trance on the normal route it might be a way to the bad ending route where the Knight wins or something
>>528377321hasn't it been confirmed he will be back for the festival since ch 1? and according to burgerpants its literally "tomorrow"
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
kris and susie in the light world are yellow and purple
thats's why those are the freedom colors
So does determination in Deltarune still have the power to stop death (de-termination), or is it Undertale-only thing?
It might be ironic that Undyne in UT have enough determination to be immortal, but her body can't handle it. And Undyne in DR have both determination and a body that can handle it, but DR!determination can't fight death.
>>528377301But the prophecy is part of their religion's doctrine, which is why it shows up in the church's Dark World in the first place.
>>528377345Of this
*grabs dick*
>>528377357"Banishing the Angel's Heaven" is part of the legend though.
>>528377390Deltarune fans when colors
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human man... hand it over... that THING... your fat DETERMINATION...
>>528377215Their religion does not have a deity.
>>528377301>>528377215I'm like 90% sure the Prophecy is Entry 17
>>528377390Susie is purple not pink.
FRIEND is trying desperately to give us a Vessel with the FREEDOM to kill.
NEO, MiniKris, Noelle...
All attempts by FRIEND with only one succeeded just barely through Asgore's complete nullification of Kris's disposal of the ThornRing via his kind gift of the Roses.
This reminds me of that one time I watched gametheory.
Fellas, where do you think the Weird route is going?
I want to hear your craziest theories
Noelle is the yellow
Susie is the pink
The jealousy comes from them, and it starts the end
Again and again and again and again and again
Fighting The Knight, they have a pink background. Suspicious.
>>528377513Pretty sure Alvin mentioned the Angel at some point as their object of worship.
>>528377390if you use CMYK (subtractive color), combining Magenta and Yellow form Red
(Our) color
>>528377408it might still be Undertale rules where the most determined in a given area can reset, and thatโs just Kris
>>528377535close enough bitch
BREATHTAKING.
I SHALL CALL HIM... MINI KRIS
>>528377623The beep noises you hear in Snowgrave? Radio signals to aliens. Aliens come to pick up all the frozen Darkners so they have friends. But we give away all our friends, so we end up alone :(
>>528377537The FREEDOM were offered specificaly to Kris. In a fight with titanspawns the narrator, upon killing (not acting) the enemies will say something like Kris finally became himself implying that Kris likes to hurt enemies
>>528377720take your meds, Lain, you're hearing voices in the telephone wires again
>>528377643No, the save points talk about "shine" and "power". Not determination. Also they're white.
>>528377027Queen needs to be nerfed, her massive thrashing robot is able to go 1-on-1 with Gerson <\3
>>528377740>upon killing (not acting) the enemiesI acted and still got that message
>>528377623We make Kris act on all of their worst, most horrible thoughts that they've been trying to suppress until everything's been Used up and they're left as an empty shell
Freedom as doing whatever you want to whoever you want until all your desires are spent
INTERESTING
VERY
INTERESTING
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YOUR HEADCANON SHIP IS DOOMED TO FAIL
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YET YOU STILL PERSIST
[ Proceed ] [ Do not ]
>>528377623In the end we (the angel/the soul) are going to get shafted by the Kris-Knight-Carol alliance for whatever reason. in the Normal route, there is probably going to be a way to fight this that leads to a 'normal' ending.
Weird route is going to have us fight it immediatly, with the angel possessing Noelle in a way they never fully did Kris, probably leading to Noelle doing some fucked up shit upon her own family at our bidding.
Freedom isn't free
Freedom costs 105 TP
>>528377784Because act leads to enemy death
Ralsei wanted you to attack the Titan and not be pacifist which means from Chapter 5 on we have Ralsei casting Fire spells of great power
>>528376842horrible repugnant art style
>we get chapter 0 (flashback chapter)
>we play as kid kris with dess, asriel and noelle
>asriel has a green icon like ralsei's
>dess has a red one and if you invert it, you get kris's color
bros...
>>528377754He said craziest I am in the safe space!!
Kris, the Silent Knight, the Human
Noelle, the Holy Knight, the (Monster) Girl
Dess, the Roaring Knight, the Prince* from the Dark
vs.
Vessel, the Human
Susie, the (Monster) Girl
Lancer, the Prince from the Dark
[Ralsei could replace either Prince who knows what that scheming little fluffball is up to or even hopes the outcome is going to be]
>>528377881it leads to banishment and doesn't make you stronger
>>528377897we get to see the kids follow the devil's tail into the forest (aka the mouse cursor)
>>528377838The FATE of Deltarune and its characters are of the world but we are infinitely superior to what it says will happen, and we can change what will happen rather it be through our choices or mutilating the code. Proceed.
https://files.catbox.moe/7e8af8.png
ASSERTIONS:
Dess is the Knight, 100%.
Dess either isn't in control of herself or is being forced into this, there is some kind of person pulling the strings
HYPOTHESIS:
Susie is the Dragon, the antithesis of the Prophecy. The Prophecy will end with us fighting her, somehow. She is not one of the original heroes.
50/50 on FRIEND being a red herring or the actual omega evil secret antagonist we all thought Gaster was
FRIEND somehow drove the schizobosses to their madness, ERAM is *not* FRIEND. Gaster is the voice we hear in the SURVEY_PROGRAM, as well as when the player loses to the Knight and persists, A Man is his own character, perhapse Deltarune's equivalent of Gaster, whereas Gaster comes from the Undertale universe
FRIEND has narrative and aesthetic connections with Flowey.
Pink & Gold have some greater symbolism. Hopes & Dreams? Something related to FREEDOM?
There will be sx endings, or major paths. They will all ultimately fulfill the prophecy in some way.
NORMIE Route: Playing through the game as normal, not every egg, not every crystal, no other secrets, no weird route, nadda. The ending will be unsatisfying and maybe a little fucked up, but not...too much. Toby wouldn't want to traumatize the normies.
WEIRD route: I don't have to explain this to you
Aborted WEIRD route: Perhaps, this will be a way to break the prophecy, somehow. The TwistedSword seems to be of incredible importance.
FREEDOM route: Same as normie route, but you gather all the shadow crystals, somehow falling into Seam's trap, getting an ending worse than the prophecy, in some ways. Maybe you will be free, though? Or, or perhaps, this is how the True Angel is awakened, rather than Noelle mantling it
TRUE FREEDOM: As I stated prior, but with the addition of all seven eggs, and the sky mantle. Throw in the TwistedSword for good measure. Somehow.
ASSHOLE route: Same as NORMIE, but you recruit no one.
>>528377891Why is he such a anti-titan racist?
>>528377912Ma'am, this is a Wendy's
What will happen when Penumbra Phantasm doesn't show up
>>528377891>Ralsei is a Titan>Ralsei will use fire magic All good theories I like
>>528377924It's not about strength, it's about how to destroy the enemy, not befriend him
>>528377631At the beginning of chapter 4 at the church when you can tell him "bangin' sermon my man" the other options talk about the angel.
>>528377935WAIT tail is a homophone for tale, meaning it could be read as following the devil's tale, or a fake prophecy?
>>528377897Do they include the scene where Dess rapes Kris
>>528377408We don't know yet
>>528377535Yellow and pink, Gerson says Gold and Pink, who do we believe?
>>528377891What's Ralsei's equivalent of Snowgrave spell? There's no way ge doesn't have something *lethal*.
Hopes are yellow and Dreams are pink
>>528377537What is up with this asgore thorn ring theory what does that even mean? Is it literally a ring made from a rose?
>>528377965Because he is one
Would the fun gang enjoy playing Deltarune?
>>528377838*dropkicks the Proceed button*
>>528377893That Asriel is Ralsei and a bloodplay fetishist/Kris molestor, I think itโs meant to be repugnant
>>528377897>Asriel finds a baby titan and raises it>calls it "ralsei"
>>528378058>this much self loathingPoor gote, I can fix him
If Ralsei is the prince and he's a titan then who's the king of the titans?
>>528377378There's not enough information about what "trance down" does to draw a conclusion. It could also mean that the player is less restrained by Kris's sandbagging, or that it weakens the connection enough for the SOUL to escape Kris's body on its own, etc.
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>go left
free and infinite goat sex, no drawbacks.
>go right
become hydrated, but at the cost of deltarune being delayed for 10 years.
which way human man?
>>528378053the ThornRing is a rose thorn
rose imagery from the first Ch4 Weird Route scene
roses are in the trash
Spamton lives in the trash
the ThornRing is just a regular thorn in the light world
Asgore gave us roses right before seeing Noelle again
>>528378064the holiday mansion scene has susie mention playing a game that sounds really similar to utdr and she mentions being annoyed that the npcs were upset when she killed enemies
>>528377758they're goner save points
we're "coloring them in with care" like Kris's aces. They turn gold at chapter completion in the menu
>>528378050Why's this make sense
>>528378064>Susie: WHY IS THERE SO MUCH TALKING?!?!
>>528378134>bloodplayso, a criminal?
>>528378176trance up makes noelle our obedient slave, obviously trans down would have the opposite effect?
>>528378190deltafags dont deserve to be happy, go right 500 times
>The FUN event in Undertale that was added shortly before the Deltarune chapter 1 release where although you never met "Suzy" the time for your meeting is "Fast approaching"
>Doing this FUN event also adds the "Don't Forget" drawing in Sans's lab
>>528378237Well yeah but heโs already one for molesting kris
>>528378050Friend is baiting you with your hopes and dreams? or symbolizes when those can be bad things
What if Mysteryman in Undertale was never Gaster's true appearance, but FRIEND was
Maybe what Gaster looks like these days
>>528377956If the mystery man is Gaster Undertale why is the theme of when we first meet the guy called Another Him
>>528378265Undertale was just a promotion for Deltarune
>"IT IS ME, YOUR FRIEND GASTER!"
>"Where is egg man?"
>>528377643>thatโs just KrisWe literally overwrite Kris's save file in chapter 1, we are the ones saving and loading.
>>528378050ANSWER
KNIGHTS BEAM TO TORIEL WAS PINK
KNIGHT AURA WAS PINK IT'S NOT EVEN THERE IT STATICS
SUNLIGHT IS HOPE
YELLOW CHURCH JUICE
so why are monsters able to use magic in undertale but not in the light world of deltarune
>>528378494Because Undertale is a chopped up reimagining of Deltarune
Did Toriel forget about the slashed tires because the Knight blasted her with pink radiation
>>528378378dude's everywhere, it's probably just another piece of him but this time it's one that's more tangible and can talk in something that isn't wingdings
>>528378429>"oh I forgot about him :^)"
The game resets when you try to input "Gaster" as a name not because he's mad, but because even his name was erased from existence. You can't type something that does not exist
>>528378494Because Undertale is just a game that Aariel coded for Kris while studying at university
>>528377956>Dess either isn't in control of herself or is being forced into this, there is some kind of person pulling the stringsBy what evidence can you say that with certainty?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KRIS DON'T FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PURPLE POORFAG DINO
>>528378546she doesn't say anything about the slashed tires to kris or susie because she doesn't want to alarm them
>>528378584The Masked Man connections. Also, the voice in the code which is clearly Dess.
>>528378494Good Ending: Undertale is a wholly different universe with different rules
Bad Ending: Undertale is some kind of warped Dark World version of Deltarune and everyone in there were actually just warped versions of their real selves (Don't do this one Toby that would suck)
>>528378546Sans probably pumped them full of air
>>528378571Thats an easter egg and the game was unfinished
>>528378494Deltarune has fake monsters and/or humanity neutered monster's magic capabilities. Noelle has ice magic that has light world consequences, maybe it's the beginning of reawakening monster magic
>>528378640>Also, the voice in the code which is clearly Dess.I wouldn't get too comfy with that idea just yet
If the game gets really meta it could also be some off-screen character and it's like a "if I'm not in the game right now I don't exist" thing
>>528378649The Dark World has a unique interface, while Undertale and the Light World have a standard interface
>>528378649Toby already said he won't fuck with the Undertale world or retcon the happy ending
>>528378649Toby confirmed that Deltarune won't affect Undertale's ending in any way, shape or form.
kris' search history
> summer vacation college when
> sharpest kitchen knife jello
> diy bath bomb
> how to use magic
> video game piano tutorial
> video game piano tutorial
>>528377972People will remix it into the final boss theme to cope
>>528378562of course
as soon as his existence is visible, the world of NUTDEALER obliterates the evidence out of existence
you can have a piece of him but as soon as it's officially "Gaster" it's gone and you're going with it
if you're named Gaster then tough luck kiddo, you don't exist anymore
good thing spoken words aren't physical or else there wouldn't be any Goners in the first place
>>528378584The Knight weeps after killing Tenna
>>528378024https://deltarune.wiki/w/Organikk
>The tale which must be followed.>The tail which must not be followed.
>>528378640Fair enough. I definitely think there would at least need to be a dess split (dess who is corrupted vs dess who is trapped inside) or some sort of repressed metaphor thing for dess to
So anyways your in some manner right. I guess im being pedantic about the wording
>>528378243Thorn ring isn't Trance up, it's Trance circle/ring.
>>528378659Not the only things sans pumped full
>>528365807i still think tenna should have been dressed like two-face
some of you arenโt even perverts you just have normal sexual desires that you are ashamed of
>Undyne is kidnapped and gone
>No one gives a shit beyond "huh"
That's... kinda sad.
>>528378965>Susie is the only one who gives a fuck about her
>>528378965She's been gone for like a day
>>528378965They just think she's run off, she's probably done it before.
Alphys is concerned
>>528378807Good point. Even if the knight isnt crying its something like drooling (which would show inebriation or a trance like state)
>>528379057guess we know what the twisted sword's for
>>528378287Friend is a good guy
>>528378943Half-mask like phantom of the opera?
Bubbly route
I drink Dr Pepper and feel the rumbling in my tumbly
>>528379104FRIEND is implied to be behind Spamton, and Ramb and possibly more
>>528379057*nods knowingly*
>>528379172>helping Spamton's business succeed is bad>helping Ramb have fun with Kris is badFRIEND is unfairly maligned
>>528379102Oh crap i didnt think about that. With how much focus there is on swords that makes sense
>>528379115It's been 10 years, and people still believe that Chara has red eyes
>>528378965The town is considered 100% safe because of the Mayor so most of the town isn't worried
Alphys is new in town so she's pretty stressed out (partially because she thinks she got stood up)
Napstablook is also pretty concerned
Asgore knows Undyne and should be worried but is potentially in on the whole conspiracy so who knows what the deal with him is
I'm more concerned about what made Toriel drop her fears about the tire slasher if it wasn't just a few too many glasses of wine
Mike is a red herring is a red herring
Friend is mike.
Friend will be inside me real chapter 5
It is the truth.
>That's... kinda sad.
that's oddly relatable
Ai roleplaying with fave.
Ethical or unethical?
>>528379430FRIEND IS FLOWEY DELTARUNE
>>528379320why is everyone saying yellow instead of gold
>>528378214>They turn gold at chapter completion in the menuThe menu stars look completely different though
>>528379452Imagine the robots rise up and they read your hottest chatlogs in the courtroom. Your final verdict is death by penis explosion chamber
Final boss is Susie with a Toby hypersexual technicolored Vs Susie musical experience
Extra final boss Friend with a catchy Muffet style banger
Snowgrave final boss is another SOUL with the heaviest metal jazz fusion using all the tricks, Rude Buster EX, X Slash EX, Self Healing, Knight attacks, attacks from all the Darkner bosses
>>528379452AI chatbots don't work for Undertale/Deltarune characters at all, Toby characters talk too uniquely for it to ever replicate
>>528377918What could possibly make Lancer fight on our side instead of Susie's?
>Ralsei will use fire magic
Did people totally ignore that Ralsei already used fire magic in Chapter 4?
>FRIEND only appears in the normal route of chapter 2, not the weird route
>FRIEND has a cameo in Mike's minigames, which are only unlocked by recruiting everyone in TV world
You guys will regret your words and deeds when it turns out FRIEND is a good demon.
>>528379602Ever is a strong word
>>528379602A while back spamton typing quirk was contagious and kept infecting other chatbots
>>528379646That feels like something Toby would make a joke about
>>528379582I really don't see killing susie being the true good ending unless it's You on Susie's side vs Kris
>>528379620He only does that in an *ACT I think people mean as an offensive spell
>>528379731The prophecy has us by the heckin balls...
>>528379658Initially, the eyesockets were empty, but this was changed so that the cards would pass censorship
Where do (you) stand on the triangle anonymous?
>>528379795>pass censorshipThat's an assumption made on your part, all we know is that Toby asked them to be changed to the red eyes
>>528377040What's the name of this artist? I forgor
>>528378024root is a homophone for route. it's the only reason i can think for roots being important.
>>528379582>Extra final boss Friend with a catchy Muffet style bangerwait so Friend is just a chill cat who likes playing tricks on people?
such as the tea cup ride and the mantle fight?
>>528379846>noncanon pronunciation
wish schizokris was more common
bro legit thinks hes possessed
>>528379812All three are shite
So in the exact middle
>>528379284>>528379795Chara has red eyes when they possess Frisk
>>528379452 (me)
I meant to ask is it gay to suck asriel's cock if I want to roleplay as dess
>>528379812Somewhere between prince and shaman, never been a fan of wizards or mages
>>528379859>the tea cup rideI take
>>528379640 back, if FRIEND is responsible for that fucking tea cup ride then it's the most evil fictional character in existence.
>>528379793well yeah but the Prophecy is not the "best" ending , that's breaking it
>>528379892>schizokris>"Dess told me to rape Noelle"
>>528379941Putting my tongue in spamtongโs mouth
>>528379941>Holiday>sucking dickdisastrous
>>528379789Yes it's only an ACT but i proves that Ralsei can use fire magic if he wants to. Just like he can fly when he wants to or just one shot other darkners.
>>528379914These are Frisk's eyes. In souless pacifist ending Chara shows that he is inside Frisk and opens his eyes so you can see Frisk's eyes for the first time. The skin color remains unchanged, which means that Chara did not transform Frisk's body into his own; he simply made his smiling face and opened Frisk's eyes
If Kris wanted to date Susie why didn't they let us use their phone so we could show her the Board James playlist first? Are they stupid?
>>528380060>SOUL starts referring to Noelle as "Elly">starts shredding the 2 string guitar
>>528379616nothing, we're the ones who "defect" from Kris to be with Susie and Lancer (just like Susie did to BE with Lancer in Chapter 1) because The New Improved $!$? Squad says FUCK THE PROPHECY (and also I would also accept being in The New Improved Lancer Fan Club)
>>528380151But Frisk also has Charaโs blush marks when theyโre possessed
>DESS IS TAKING OVER MY MIND!
>ASRIEL, PULL YOUR PANTS DOWN!
>>528380098He never flied, just floated. It's like a helicopter vs air-cushion vehicle.
Canon media in the Delatrune universe
>Dragon Blazers
>Cat Petters/Petterz
>Super Smashing Fighters
>Minecrap
>Ice-E
>Mew Mew Kissy Cutie
>The Symptons
>The Blurfs
>>528380319Sure, but eyes are Frisk's. Given that Frisk and Kris shares same appearance, they have congenital red eyes
>>528378593>>528378809I now respect asgore a little more
susie being half human would still leave her with human parts, being part human
>>528380409Cat Petters is the movie Cat Petterz is the game
Also Jongler is both a cat in Cat Petterz AND has his own book of Jongleing and Other Tricks
>>528380409How could you forget the award winning Lord of the Hammer
>>528380076wtf? tenna, is this real?
>>528380409>Blood Crushers>Super Mario World
>>528380410Frisk and Kris are totally different. Kris is AU Chara. Red eyes are demon eyes, neither Kris nor Chara have red irises normally, their pupils glow red when they act like psychos.
>>528380480those are susie's hands
they're clawed with 4 fingers
you got it
I've finally beaten the knight without the shadowmantle. I have it but I wanted to see Seam's dialogue about it I can finally play chapter 4
>>528380475>Asriel: "who's dess?"
>>528380657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg2PD-dwsIw
>>528380614maybe its not human parts
maybe it's just "human soul" and "parts"
>>528380409The Mantle/Manhole game?
>>528380486Other way around, Jongler in Cat Petterz is named after the famous Jongler magician that published a book about Jongleing and Other Tricks. It's a reference to Houdini and his Handcuff Secrets book.
>>528380409>cool skateboard game>Tales of Snails>unnamed Green Eggs and Ham equivalent>comic about hot demon guys>Astral Wolf
What did Kris have on the original save file that we overwrote in ch1? An embarassing photo of Asriel at the holiday christmas party?
>>528380590Kris shows red eyes when he does a somersault in a jump. Sometimes, while walking normally, you can catch a glimpse of his red eyes.
Frisk and Kris have red eyes, but the former's eyes are always closed, while the latter hides his eyes under his bangs
>>528380727Non-man's holes are welcome too!
>>528379965I love Weaver's stuff so much
>>528379965Noelle looking like one of those thumb mutants from spy kids
>>528380392How is him floating different than flying? With the examples you gave there's a practical difference in how they operate. For a living creature I can't see the difference.
Good Greetings Fuck
I come to divulge secrets never seen
before from within toby's tumor , I bequeath chapter 4.5 we made noelle taller in the face and smaller in the waist
proceeding to destiny unite the soul with asgore's truck or tv. The glands of Dess create shadow crystals through machines sucking on her off. She is loud, Tony's Trick!
Kris' Smell-o-vision DLC will be included have a chance to smell dess glands. And Flowers! And Ralsei's dirty disgusting putrid puss filled wounds hand [[[Dripping]]] {Coming!}
Tony's the only way to stop this.
Thanks and have fun - Shigeru Miyamoto
is there any cool art of Carol with her katana?
NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR DEAD SISTER, NOELLE!
>>528380702>>528380614Yeah I either believe this picture is Susie and they're a hybrid , or it's Kris and Kris's body is actually made of Dog parts somehow
>>528380727Do romhacks of Dragon Blazers count
My name is Carol Holiday yo
>>528380871...Max height? One is a single metre, other is a whole atmosphere.
>>528380702human parts can also refer to humanoid limbs
susie and noelle have human parts but jockington doesn't
>>528374589> attempt by Ditchu to deprive his girlfriend of agency and money.Good
>>528380934Is Mantle a romhack of Dragon Blazers? There's no Fireshock like in Noelle's game in either Tenna's version or Mantle. I thought Mantle was a Zelda parody and Dragon Blazers is DQ/Final Fantasy
>>528380968We can't prove one way or another if he could go higher though.
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>>528381023Jokington have two eyes, mouth, brain, spine. All perfectly good human parts.
Carol has one big katana in the kitchen and one smaller black katana in her room
Her Dark World class is ninja and she can dual wield like all good RPG ninjas
Karen with a katana is a genius concept unironically. Bravo Toby.
>>528381120but can he (point and hearts come out)?
>>528381121she also has snowflake shurikens on the wall
>>528381090>shuffling a sandwich like scooby doo
>>528381098Who knows. He might even be able to teleport like Rouxls Kaard
>>528381090i can only picture dess playing with play-doh
>>528381052It's got the exact same Glaceir ice palace that Noelle talks about in the ARG, plus when you encounter enemies in the Tenna version you go into turn-based battles that Noelle says are "like Dragon Blazers" in chapter 2
I think it just makes the most sense as a Dragon Blazers romhack that Asriel never finished and is being fucked with by Dark World magic
>>528381101Is that THE M. D. Seeger?
>>528381203Why's this Spamton look like one of those caricatures those guys draw in boardwalks
>>528381121This but unironically
>I had to stay totally out of sight, Holiday family ninja style>(It's Noelle's absurdly dangerous ninja weapon collection.)
>>528381243ARG is not canon. Toby himself said it.
>>528381074https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK2-xKKyuoY
>>528381217Kinda fucked up that Rouxls can just do that. He can also fuck with the battle screen. Rouxls is the most powerful darkner and the moment he decides to stop being a joke character we're fucked.
>>528381284Who said I was being ironic
I am excited for the Ninja Carol fight where she starts pulling minmaxed Dual Wield X-Strike Spellblade bullshit at you
>>528381121>fight Carol in the dark world>her battle theme has snippets and motifs from Let's Fighting Love
>>528381391To be fair, almost every boss fucks with UI in some way. Tenna even does the exact same thing.
>>528380657Took you long enough
>>528381473Tenna does it because he was given rules cards by Rouxls.
>>528380873Cool and new deltarune facts
Is there any art of Flowey and The Knight on a date
>>528381529Not really. Tenna have Contracts. It's Tenna's thing, independent from Rouxls' Rule Cards.
why does the knight cry shadow crystals?
and why do we need to collect the knight's tears?
Fill in the blanks.
The Beatles XXXterday.
>>528381615https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFG6WrYFCe8
Shit I gotta lock in. Iโm up against base form rulls carrd (not joking around)
>>528381316Proof next thread?
>>528381809>Kris PROCEEDs to use the knife to kill Asriel, Dess and himself
>>528381809>Kris stabs Dess and kills her
>>528381905where are her clothes?
>Kris's aura farm pose isn't available for the acid ride
tragic
>>528382002Frfr Kris is gonna have a skibidi crashout unc
>>528381316It's not as canon as the game but when Noelle talks about the ice palace Glaceir from Dragon Blazers where there's a repeating room maze where she and she alone can find a scary door and then in the game you go to an area with the song Glaceir where the Noelle-shaped thing leads you through a repeating room maze to a scary door surely there's some kind of hint there
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>>528381875https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/release-time/
>>528382053I need Kris to do an edgy pose for the funny swan ride
>>528382113>quotes around the word canon>nothing critically importantSounds like it's basically canon, just extraneous to the game
Undertale Expanded Universe
>>528376063Itโs impressive how much of UT was predicted from just the demo, like people immediately picking up on the kid in the intro being a different person than the kid ingame unless you played genocide.
>missed out on the Mantle in Chapter 3 because I forgot to go into the S Room a second time
>complete the chapter
>do Chapter 4
>feel unfulfilled because I never defeated the Knight for the third Crystal
>too stubborn to do Chapter 3 again
>defeat the Knight without the Mantle on an old save after 6 hours of trying
Feels good. I'm gonna do Chapter 4 again on that file right before 5 comes out.
>>528382180Basically lore-relevant, but things did not actually happen. Noelle didn't actually see ch1 Kris and Susie's scene canonically, but ARG provides the answer to "what if she did see it?".
>>528376254well who else would he be :)
Noelle pregnant.
Just consider.
You know exactly who would be the father.