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Previous Crossover: >>528382434

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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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DUDE, I RAPED KRIS !!!

>>528405487 (OP)
Krusie and dessriel will fall.
Krecember and Susasriel will win.
Love wins.

hey /utg/ your lips are looking nice and crusty today

DONT CARE, DIDNT ASK. POST DESS

>>528405487 (OP)
ralsei ass.

>>528405747

Frisk is a fatass

the room you're in becomes a dark world
the closest object to your left that you can lift becomes your darkner party member
the last friend/family member/acquaintance you interacted with becomes your monster party member, they're a (color of your shirt) + (their favorite animal/last kind of enemy you fought in a vidya)
How fucked are you

>>528405772
whoops wrong alt

>>528405772
i CREAMED to this post

>>528405917
they'd get along nicely then

tv ass!!!!

your taking too long boss killing me
>tfw down arrow key gets stuck easily

Cringe and gay time

https://x.com/turboemmy/status/1935431664412541153

>>528406027
Use numpad, then

>>528405917
What did you expect from a diet of pure sugar?

>>528405772
incredibly based anon

>>528406027
buy a usb snes controller to play deltarune with

I love TV...

>>528405917
frisk has ANOREXIA thank you very much

I wish to play Deltarune chapter 3 and 4 again but I feel like I have to justify it by doing something different but I already did regular and fucked route
I guess I'll play it in Japanese???

>>528405675
they're actually nice and moisturized but thanks for being interested i guess

>>528406158
to be fair you don’t really digest monster food and we don’t know what they actually eat (apart from the fact they don’t like soda, which could rule out really sweet things), I’d like to think they eat rocks and mud

Give me THREE actual pieces of evidence that december is the knight

>>528405489
>berdly only stepped up for doe puss

That's literally what I addressed. At first he does that and it's a very clear flaw, but then you know he's sticking up for Susie and Kris as well. With Noelle it's abundantly clear that Susie is the only thing she cares about, and she would let all of her other friends die for Susie.
Though there could be an intentional parallel here. As Kris grows closer to Susie and Ralsei, would they still betray their friends just for Dess's sake in the end?

>>528405940
multiple papers with the names of many people written on it
my brother, either a gray bunny/bird
i don't like the prospect

I could go for some Ralsei Fried Rice
It's like my fourth favorite dish

>>528406419
cursed

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2r2WAriljao

i want to wake up one day and see noelle on my bed like this

>>528406027
REBAIND YOUR CONTROALS

giving Ralsei a stainless steel ballsack washer for his birthday

>>528406389
still has yet to provide even a single reason why tenna would have multiple TVs with FRIEND's smile on it in the tv world he built, instead of his own, considering literally everything else in tv world is tenna-themed
in case anyone was thinking he was working in good faith

the knight is toriel

>>528405940
>bf's laptop
>grey dog
laptop will bitch at us to actually progress in the game and i'd be sucking my bf's dog dick nonstop and we'd get nothing done

>>528406419
what if ralsei was called freaksei and ate ass and sucked toes

>>528406027
download window's powertoys and rebind, it worked for me when my arrow keys decided to randomly die even if it was slightly annoying at the start

>>528406556
that's harassment

Ramb!

every 20th post here is just
>you made a dark world in your house. what is your parents credit card number, the expiration, the three numbers on the back, your favorite candy, the street you live in, and your opinion on unmarked white vans?

>>528406562
It's a basic "the villain was watching you the entire time" trope anon.

I love fish

>so
>hehe
>do you anons...
>like me?

I still don't get friend. Okay, they're this strange creature from the dark world, likely connected to the depths and gaster, they might be the thing that led the kids where the forest would grow and thus may be connected to Dess' disappearance...
HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT TIE INTO CAT PETTERZ???

>>528406419
>Ralsei if he was actually a copy of Goat Simulator

>>528406818
Yes
*plaps u*

>>528406741
2253 2211 9988 2211
07/07/28
557
margerine
4
i want drive car
okay what now

>>528406818
No.
Now try on these cute outfits.

>>528406685
he NEEDS to wash his balls dude they STINK and he doesn’t wear underwear what the fuck is wrong with him

Kris could be tied up on a railroad track and Noelle could be standing there with a rope cutting machine and the train could be coming and Noelle wouldn't do anything because she is also driving the train because it is headed directly into Susie's buttcrack

>>528406818
Only if he's the one fucking me. If a guy takes it in the ass that's a turnoff

>>528406741
4206 9360 1337 8008
12/25
303
chocolate
yellow tree way, hometown
don't like em

>>528405617
>DUDE I- no-no please don't!!! NOO AAAIIIEEEE!!
*VROOOOOOOM* *THUNK THUNK THUNK*

>>528406732
Ramb!

Anyone got more fan art of Spanton trying to kill Tenna? It's just so spicy.

everyone goes to sleep and Kris wakes up to everyone but Susie and Ralsei dead and FRIEND trying to kill him with a knife

>>528406941
Kinda weird, but okay.

>>528406389
Friend inside is a serial murderer rapist that killed Dess and traumatized Kris. After finding all the eggs you find out its Mr. Cattenheimer who was posessed by his hand to do evil so he had it cut off.

>>528406916
That's a weird interpretation of the trolley dilemma anon

>>528406963
>chocolate
fake kris

>>528405940
>Piss bottle darkner
>Black Bird

>>528406562
The game itsel connects the TV face to the knigjt

Since Kris is serving the Knight that means Kris is a Squire and as such has access to abilities such as Throw Stone and Salve and a movement range of 4

>>528407094
pie isn't candy, anon

>>528407117
fym piss bottle

>Look at his shit eating grin. He knows there's nothing you can do to him. He's bullying you, and you are helpless. Kill him. Kill him now! He won’t see death coming.

>>528406881
Woah it works. Thanks for the free bitcoin

>>528407040
Being a faggot who takes it in the ass is weird and gross and even faggots know it

Who is that girl?

>>528407149
so tenna, the obsessive boss who built velvet rope stands with his own face on them that turn to look at you, and multiple giant golden statues of himself
the guy who literally tore down the original dark world and built his stage on top of it
the guy whose only dealings with the knight or kris happened off screen
placed hee hee ha ha hints of FRIEND in notable places in his lobby for… what?

>>528407247
It's a bottle full of my piss. Not really a big mystery.

Forced Bimbofication

>>528406818
Hmm... Yeah, why not

>>528407159
it actually means that kris is a 1W Creature Token - Human Soldier with a 1/2 statline and no text

>>528407384
idk

Crazy bitches

>dumps the hottest TV head of all time because le phone call
Spamton deserves to never have friends for the rest of his life because what the fuck

>>528407440
>he shrinks from the acid and becomes pocket sized so you can carry him around in your hand from now on

>>528407447

>>528407384
Why would tenna put friend's face on his tv's is a question that goes both ways anon.

>>528407574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jtbe89XTMc

>>528407017
Zamn!

>>528407028
I need more art of Spamton Neo and Tenna together

>>528407562
I wish we had a board of our own like MLP so we could separate faggot threads from the rest

>>528407704
yeah, and the logical answer is "he didn't, that's his smile stylized"

i fucking did it
i cant
i cant stop
toby please release chapter 5 so i can take my mind off this....

>>528407262
>Damn, that felt *good*. Your heart is pounding nicely. You should tell people to fuck off more often.

>>528407817
/vrpg/ ?

Bitches love TV time.

>>528407404
Surely someone has done the "bending over to pick up book" bimbo meme with him and the pose where he hoses down Spamton

>>528407631
what's up the with the censoring? why does it randomly turn into symbols at the end?

>>528407631
>happy ending where Kris just lets us hang around and sometimes even throws a choice at us
>We wrestle for what food to eat every day

>>528407447
My mind when sing swearing is mentioned.
>...who the fuck stole the sled.

It's OK Spamton will get a new boy toy and bounce back

>>528407280
Isn't that the defining characteristic of faggots though?
What are you then if your not taking it up the rear? Just suck buddies?

>>528407984
Kris transitions to shouting fictional monster-specific racial slurs at the end

Inferior franchise

asriel is the knight and he is mantling dess in the same fashion the hero of kvatch mantles sheogorath screencap this send text

why didn't spamton turn to stone in the chapter 3 dark world is he stupid or am I because I didn't play the game and I don't care about schizotheories, I take Toby's story at face value.

>>528408095
Anons, what monster slurs would you come up with?

Dark = Can't see man
Can'tseeman
Cannedsemen
Can - Kris, Semen - Soul
Soul will give way to new life when it enters the mothers womb
The mother is Noelle
You collect eggs to fertilize Noelle with your soul
When you have all eggs you will force Noelle to equip ALL the eggs and go inside her
Snowgrave up til ch 4 is mindbreaking Noelle so she doesn't even consider abortion. There will be no opportunity to abort snowgrave going forward
captcha G0DK4

>>528407875
king dedede is so based

>>528408184
spacious pants hole

Kris. Kill Susie.

mr. kill

>>528407908

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34B5G2kApc

Pretty bored right now desu

>>528407848
Tenna is friend confirmed???

>>528408197
Duster

>>528408184
Spamton has pocket immunity and was only out for like 10 secinds

>>528407262
it's funny because both lan er and cuno are KINGs

>>528408184
I think acting as equipment might bypass the whole "Darkners turn to stone in other Dark Worlds" rule.

>>528408184
The Kris's house Dark World is based on Kris's childhood and as such Darkners FROM Kris's childhood, which include Spamton if he was from the laptop Queen turns into, are valid
Also he was only in Darkner form for about 30 seconds

>>528408184
>at face value.
We never see Kris' face...what have you discovered, anon!?

>>528408251
motherfucker unlimited

Tenna destroying Susie's brain with cocomelon

>>528408078
C'mon, Spamie...

>>528408184
Equipment don't turn to stone, only Darkners do.

>>528408184
All the extra bosses live in Kris's main character aura

Was toby making dess so pedophile groomer coded necessary?

>>528408184
darkners take a bit of time to petrify, given spamton remained an item since the start of the chapter, he probably had enough time to go in and out without problem
he may also count as a resident of the tv world fountain given his history with tenna

GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE SOUL
YOU'RE GETTING IN ME

Was Toby making Undertale and Deltarune necessary?

>>528408389
But then it doesn't make sense that Ramb turned to stone

>>528408184
You know the game would be a little more interesting if most items from the one dark world didn't work on another one, but Toby did his tricks and now they don't even turn to stone consistently

>>528408258
>Of course you've killed people. It's somewhere down there, melting in all the pie...

>>528408427
He has a single red marble for an eye, a cyclip (ccoclop) fuck it's CYCLOP

>>528408389
Lancer is from his childhood, he still turns to stone

Was Toby making anything in is whole career necessary?

>>528407848
Why would tenna's smile be stylized to not only look nothing like his smile but be literally friend's smile down to the shape and arrangement of the teeth?

Tenna already has a smile that he uses on the tv's when you get quiz questions wrong

I AM THE FUCKING STRONGEST

>>528408654
no

>>528408217
get this anon Mpregged NOW

>>528408694
this pic is a certified hood classic

>* Heh, only kids like you two would take a laptop home just to play make believe.
>* ... how is she, Kris? Are you two...? Well, it's alright. Everyone changes. 'cept us.
I clowned on the anon last thread for suggesting "that girl" who played with Kris was Dess instead of Noelle, but the more I think about it the more it starts to REALLY make sense
>Dess is all over the place in Chapter 3, but there isn't a single clear reference to Noelle
>If Kris played with Dess more than Noelle, it makes sense why Noelle would feel unsure if they were friends and say they weren't that close when they were younger
>King and Queen being things Kris and Dess used to play with explains why The Knight (Dess) made those Dark Worlds, and why they did things like making King the only king
>explains why Kris and The Knight's Dark Worlds are identical compared to Susie's
>explains why The Knight was seemingly crying after smashing Tenna
>explains Kris's connection to The Knight as more than just "a friend's older sister"
>if "The (Roaring) Knight" was a make-believe persona for Dess, it explains why all of the Darkners seem to know that identity intuitively
>Spamton saying "KRIS, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE KNIGHT..." makes more sense if it was someone he was already familiar with
>also explains Spamton "transmitting" the "unused" text of Dess lost in the dark
>makes Queen's final attack with the giant baseball more significant

>>528408258
>rape
half light would never instigate this
it'd be
>half light getting angry and madonna complexing her
>electrochem channeling the anger into sexual urfe
>physical instrument getting swept up into it, thinking about the *physical exertion*
>half-light getting into the rape bandwagon, pushing you to defile and ruin her
>volition dunking ice water over your head

>>528408184
i think Toby realized the whole "turning to stone in a darkworld that isnt yours" is very limiting and he really wants to retcon it.

>>528406741
i dont think the feds care about a bunch of gay autistic gooners

>>528408542
So many ways for them to kiss, beautiful

>>528408689
>Who needs love if you can wield *fear*.

drew this thing. lowkey feel kinda bad for the man LOL, will redo my snowgrave save file just to recruit everyone in ch3 since its not a requirement to attack everyone

>Flies directly at you

>>528408741
anything homosuck and prior was formative
undertale was to make a propper vidya and to get moolah
deltarune is the endgame

>>528406818
yes. please stick this hose up your tight asshole so i can start pumping you up.

>>528408184
You ask this about spamton, who showed up in 1 joke scene, and not lancer, who was pretty much fine through the entire chapter?

There's something about a darkner "Belonging" to the setting. Even the tv world residents stopped belonging during the chapter, while an outsider, Lancer, was fine. Maybe kris feels so strongly that lancer (and spamton) belong that they are fine here.

>>528408803
>Dess "playing" with Kris
bros...

>>528406295
use a save editor to give yourself the spiral sword

>>528408831
"Giving limits to worldbulding and characters would make my story interesting, but I need my action packed jrpg out done QUICK"

>>528408803
No you can't suggest that Dess is an important character in the game! THAT MAKES ME ANGRY!
Dess probably doesn't even exist.

>>528408803
honestly dess was my immediate thought when i saw that line, so i'm glad other people are starting to agree with me

I can't stop thinking about the Twisted Sword
Robert won't disappoint us and make it just a sword that makes Kris do a lot of damage, right?

>>528408981
>Smooch seeking missile

>>528408931
>That felt good. Everyone is a whore. Now punch a hole in the door.

>>528409054
Nonono clearly toby just didnt give us the whole story in chapter 1. Trust the plan guys

>>528408975
golden freddy

>>528408985
Was Hussie making Homestuck necessary?

>>528408981
splat

>>528408184
Toby needed to show people his yaoi lore, which is more important than world building

>>528406818
No.

Does Susie have ears

>>528409046
>consensual and nostalgic all the way up to the big block of text where it's suddenly a traumatic memory
some of you motherfuckers REALLY want it to be rape, huh

>>528409261
earholes

>>528409129
>She won't be the first unweaned punk you've shut down. You'll make mincemeat of this fool's jaw.

>>528409261
*checks*
Yep!
*goes to get ice for my black eye*

>>528409171
was you surviving 3 abortion attempts necessary?

>>528409261

>>528409321
>Now is a good time to say "fuck" and "ass" and so on, that'll make this all right.

>>528408975
Nice work anon

dick in ass good
dick in pussy good
dick in mouth good

>>528405675
YOUR [SMO]KING TOO LONG!

>>528409376
>TVSlop

>>528409594
this but put ralsei after in

>>528409376
Bigdad has a knack for making big titty OCs inspired by characters and then claiming they’re said character

>>528407750
This is 100% in character for Queen.

>>528408931
Ew I'm not that creepy in Snowgrave I'm more like
>Hey Noelle, deerbiscuit, freeze this

>>528408803
The knight isn't dess retard anon

>>528409665
what about ralsei dick in my mouth?

marriage is good for you!

>>528408758
licking the knight's marble

>>528409665
Why do they call it Ralsei when you of in the penis gote out eat the penis

I love that roaring knight Papyrus has become shitpost tier

>>528409621
>TVSlop

>>528409289
Kris couldn’t consent

>>528409523
>Hey, I've got an idea on how to fix your style. Maybe you should just go fuck yourself? Yeah, ever thought of that?

>>528409672
This lol

>>528409729
True

I'm not optimistic about the Dess design because Carol turned out ugly. I hope Dess takes after Rudy and not her

>>528408981
pov: you just took out his buttplug after inflating him

>>528409773
Me too. Even though its canon (friend is inside papyrus)

>>528408893
Super new stuff I see

>>528409862
She's 12 feet tall

dessknighters are the new krisknighters in that they're 100% sure of something despite barely any evidence and more off of hype and obvious red herrings

>>528409862
>rudy's fur/hair with a grinchface and bright neon blue antlers

>>528409862
Carol's portrait is fine her sprite is ass

Ralsei can fly and shoot fireballs therefore he can appear in the next Parodius game

Papyrus is the Knight.
Who else would be so cool and great?
No-one. Therefore it can only be Papyrus.

Kris will not become unraped by the big doe even if he goes by they/them

>>528410072

>>528409927
Kris Knight was more correct than wrong so Dess Knight will also be more correct than wrong

>>528409968
That's what I'm scared of, that blue shit looks ugly

>>528410072
me on the far left

>>528409856
Noelle!

>>528410072
Asgore "Du Boi" Dreemurr fan game when?

>>528409813
doesn't mean he HAS to be freaking out and in the fetal position over being reminded of it, that's just making it miserable because you can
and because you "can", you "have to"

>>528408184 (me)
new question: why Susie's character change is so immediate, is she stupid or I am? It was literally a couple of hours in a fantasy land, but she already acts like a different person in chapter 2.... Case of toby magic™ again?

>>528410159
so was oberon smog, so that doesn't really mean anything

>>528409026
lancer does turn to stone during the chapter though

>Spamton and Jevil just live in Kris's pockets watching all the shit go down

>>528410030
This WOULD be top 3 Toby head explosions. I think even the cynical assholes would go wtf and demand explanations

My favorite little Deltarune chapters 3 and 4 bit was how you can get three Lancer controllers and you can play as three Lancers and it has no other use except that you have two extra Lancers

>>528410165
i can understand the idea behind it (icy bitch, her hair and antlers and shit are frozen) but it is SO hideous
the grinchface is kino though

>>528410030
Nah

>>528409927
kris is still working with the knight though, so acting like they were COMPLETELY wrong is a bit of a reach

>>528410293
her bully persona was nothing more than a fragile front that got broken as soon as she entered the dark world and got scared
the susie you see in chapter 2 onward in the real susie

>>528410072
me on the far right

>>528409862
Carol is like fine wine. It takes some time and knowledge to appreciate her subtleties and depths.

-Asgore Dreemurr

>>528410336
i don't remember ever seeing him turn to stone in chapter 3

Serving cunt.

>>528410072
Harry needs his iconic Expression.

>>528409862
Tenna's canon design is far better than all the fan slop designs so there is always a chance.

>>528409927
We're gonna get another "not technically right, not technically wrong" answer that makes both sides look stupid. I'm thinking Dess's body turned into the Knight but her soul is still trapped in the depths or something.

>My sister and Kris... fucked each other?

>>528410637
he's in one of the rooms up north somewhere with all the lancer controllers, he's normal and then turns to stone at some point

I LOVE TENNA!!! I LOVE TV!!

How does Frisk’s determination work? If it works the same in deltarune isn’t it (you) not necessarily frisk who has the real power of determination? If I stop playing after frisk dies, similar to how flowey describes not playing after pacifist, doesn’t the world just go on without them? People often portray frisk as using the save feature but does the character even know about saving? Kris seemingly doesn’t know about it. It’s essentially time magic by the player right? Is it just different rules between games?

Why doesn't Kris just smile? If your choices don't matter, why bother being upset by it? Letting go of everything is a good thing in his shoes. Just carry on smiling, if everything doesn't really matter.

The identity of the Knight will never be revealed and the Annoying Dog will show up on screen steam pouring out his ears and shout at you REAL LIFE DOESN'T HAVE BIG REVEALS!!!

>>528410538
no amount of fanart will save her sprite from being ugly as shit and not fitting in with the game's style at all
and not in a good way either like omega flowey but in a way where it looks like a leftover from some deltarune plus mod that adds more colors to all the characters

HAHAHAHAHAH GET IT?? RALSEI WAS SQUASHED!! DID YOU GET IT? HE GOT SQUASHED AND IT MADE THE SPLORT NOISE!! SUSIE JUMPED ON HIM AND HE SPLORTED AND SQUISHED GET IT???

I'm torn between Kris x Susie and Kris x Dess

>>528410703
Dess' body turned into a dark amalgamation currently puppeted by the real villain, FRIEND (who is also the pointy tail mentioned in Chapter 4).

>>528410819
>Why doesn't Kris just smile?
He smiles for Dess only. And I am not even shitposting or trolling you.

>>528408247
Slay the dragon, fulfill the prophecy

>>528410743
>noelle finds out that dess is the knight
>too preoccupied with the OTHER revelation that her and kris have a "special bond" to actually fight her

>>528410858
fucking stop lmfao leave the ralsie_splat.wav alone

>>528410819
Kris does smile
* The diner, huh...
* Haven't eaten here since... Your mom took me.
* I remember plowing into my food with a runny nose.
* I probably became every janitor's enemy after that.
* ... But... it's funny.
* Even though I was only making a mess...
* Her face looked so... Happy.
* Just sitting there... smiling, watching me.
* ...
* Kind of like you're doing now.

>tfw i imagined a scene with Carol and the kids like from that one episodes from BoJack
oh god...that would imply Carol's old friend tried to have sex with Noelle...

>>528410891
FRIEND is a mike-esque nothingburger that you're needlessly obsessing over

knight is not dess
shut up with your schizo theories based on no facts whatsoever

>>528409862

>>528410826
Sometimes the fans must fix where the author failed at

>>528410703
I'd still count that as dessknight

>>528410905
>Dess only
Forgot that he also smiles for Susie bro

>>528410159
They were right that he was a villain but to retarded to catch the full nuance (though to be fair nobody did)

The same is happening with the knight. The knight has a horned helmet and a sword that looks vaguely like a bat for 1 frame, so it's 100% december even though the knight is a hulking skeletal shapeshifter with a billion other points of evidence that it's at minimum not december.

We actually have genuine concepts tied to december now, via the black deer monster, the hand holding you back exchange, and even the december sweepstakes page:

>december is following your every move
>december is actively obfuscated within the code itself and you can only find evidence of her by modding the game files

The "december is having tea with gaster" schizos might have actually been right about her

>>528411016
Please Tobias...let her look like that and my life is yours

>>528410905
>>528410950
Not necessarily a heartfelt smile, just something to reassure people.

>>528410679
Wait now I have hope, you are right. Dess will be beautiful and peak tomboy performance!

Susie already knows the Knight is in the bunker and that inside there is a dark fountain, she could just camp in front of the door waiting for the Knight, like she intended in the church.
She could force Kris to do night guard taking turns to sleep. We know Kris would just let the Knight go, but Susie could also make a dark fountain inside the tent to check with Ralsei if there is another dark world being created.

>>528410481
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, or it's just that I don't have a degree in psychology, but even if taking into account the possibility that Susie grew up in an abusive household, usually the defensive personas are hard to shatter when the individual is conditioned to act like this. Even if the events of chapter 1 really affected her heavily, she would need at least a couple of hours to process it, and not immediately go "let's got back there tomorrow".

Maybe I'm just overthinking a very hookful story. Who knows.

susie makes kris smile

>>528410743
>May I see?
>... No

(You) Stupid fucking chud

>>528410992
Yeah the knight only has antlers and a baseball bat shaped sword on accident.

>>528410703
December is the phone person and both kris and the knight are beholden to her. The knight opened the church fountain because december told it to.

>>528409927
i always considered kris working with the knight to be possible, it was just a more complicated explanation than krisknight and didn't answer any additional questions, thus it fell to occam's razor
even now, the issue of "how did the knight make a fountain in front of the laptop without being noticed by noelle and berdly" is still unanswered

anons i dont want to go fight in foreign wars before deltarune is released
im getting really nervous

>>528410743
>>528410910
She’s going to be Aunt Noelle soon.

<3

>>528396263
Forever and always my favorite cutie patooties.

Now I can play ch1-4 on 32" screen, full on experience

>>528411016
please Toby anything but this shit.
I dont want a Tumblr shut in girl as Dess, she is a tomboy.

>>528411089
>black deer monster
you mean kinda like... the black monstrous knight with deer horns?

Would (You) stand in for the artist at an R18 booth of your favorite character?

>>528411016
her overworld sprite looks like a pug

Noelle will die in Snowgrave

>>528411130
I bet the bunker has a second entrance in the basement of town hall

Toby is too coward to write a character from his games raping so no moldesster kino

>Everything is a nothingburger and also every hint is a red herring
How do you demoralize yourself over an episodic video game

>>528411321
i never been to one of those. ive heard these are not cringe and decent only in Japan (and not just because of weeb perspective).

how are they?

RuGore endgame, i believe...

>>528411248
Become obese and have public mental breakdowns. The army won't draft you if you're a hyper autist.
Or just say you're trans. They don't want trannies in the army anymore.

>>528411321
Why is Spamton selling Ralsei lewds

>>528411415
Bro your chapter 4?

>>528411248
just kill the president

>>528411415
Instead we're getting consensual kress instead

>>528411150
chapter 1 dark world took at minimum 7 hours canonically because it starts at the beginning of a school day and ends at the end of the school day
susie's bully persona was more flimsy than it appeared, she was already dropping it when the closet opened and she got scared. basically all of chapter 1 is her character being developed

>>528411479
It's like a coping mechanism to surprise themselves once the chapter actually drops and the answer to various questions was quite obvious and heavily foreshadowed in previous chapters.

>>528411016
>>528411319
She NEEDS to wear camo cargo pants and military boots or I riot, with tank top and short leather jacket preferably

>>528411198
>baseball bat shaped sword
Cease.

>>528411320
That interpretation ignores the massive literal rift between kris and december.

What is the "Friend inside me" theory? That Kris will insert his penis in Susie?

>>528411248
no no anon we're at war with ICE-E not with Hometown

>>528409616
Viro

>he touches himself at night
why don't you touch yourself at knight instead?

>kress
Why do all Deltarune ship names sound so atrocious?

>>528410872
>Kris X Susie
Pacifist Run
>Kris X Dess
Genocide Run
>Kris X Noelle
Weird Run

>>528411683
what's wrong with kress? at least it's kinda like a word (cress)

>>528411683
Because shippers are mentally ill

>>528411248
you're not going to be drafted you retard we already went to war with the middle east 2 decades ago and they didn't draft anyone.
the us military as it stands already has enough people to shoot missiles at the desert, they don't need you as well.
just don't join the military and you'll be fine.

>>528411243
>even now, the issue of "how did the knight make a fountain in front of the laptop without being noticed by noelle and berdly" is still unanswered
They might've fallen in the same way Kris and Susie did in chapter 1, they open the door, it's dark, they walk in looking for the light switch and they're stuck
As for why Noelle and Berdly were asleep Ralsei knows sleep magic and was off-screen with them while Kris and Susie shut the Dark Fountain

>>528411530
The player is not a character.

>>528408803
I can buy Dess but "Are you two...?" makes a bit more sense for Noelle since it's the relation between Kris and Noelle that changed while for Dess the main change seems to be that she fucking disappeared rather than a relation between the two
The Japanese translation calls "that girl" "おじょうちゃんが" which apparently means "young lady", dunno if any connotations can be gleaned from that

>>528411248
Just be too old!

>>528411617
military boots on a non cringy goth fit make my brain fucking zap.

what does it say about me?
i love tomboys.

Susie crushing Dess's ugly zombie skull haha

Dess has military stuff in her room. Is that hinting to a human monster war? Or is the military full of humans and monsters?

>>528411492
Rudy literally act disgusted when he brought him roses "We're not Beauty and Beast, we are both beasts". Rudy is confirmed straight.

>>528410872
it's Kris(Me) x Susie for me
I will even accept a Susie as a sister end

>>528411479
via terminal irony poisoning

>>528411626
>No, beautiful naked people fucking in the bushes is what you came for. Sweat, cocks and and titties please!

>>528409927
Kris knighters were basically 99.9% correct and they DID have tonnes of evidence. Kris literally did all the knightly shit that Kris knighters said they did.
Any new player who picked up Deltarune today is supposed to assume that Kris is the knight at the end of chapter 2 till the completely out of left field knight reveal that also reveals that Kris is working with the knight.

Any anti-Kris knight counter "evidence" were all proven completely wrong and stupid.

Dess is the knight. Or it's gonna be like gaster dess hybrid, or resurrected mutant dess, or some other corrupted dess avatar. But it's gonna be dess.

>>528411492
toriel would kill herself

>>528411785
i dunno, you seem like quite the character to me

>>528409723
>>528409927
>Knew Kris wasn't The Knight
>Knew Mike wasn't anyone important
>Know that Dess is The Knight
I know the dog better than you do
Have a written apology prepared for next year

>>528411943
Kris and Dess are both Knights.

>>528411626
dess is trapped in the delta rune with gaster

>>528411248
Americans were born as golems to die for someone's else war

>>528411248
If you're on any sort of meds you can't join the military.

>>528411943
>Any anti-Kris knight counter "evidence" were all proven completely wrong and stupid.
ENTER:
in chapter 1, kris backed away from the dark fountain on their own when the door to the closet opened
if they were the knight then they would already know it was there and wouldn't back away in fear
this one tiny piece of evidence has always annihilated krisknighters.

Putting stoner comedy tapes inside Tenna and making him get the munchies...

>>528410538
“Carol is like wine and im an alcoholic”
-rudy

It's a beautiful day outside. Birds are singing, flowers are blooming... on days like these, /utg/ers like you should be out getting some fresh air

>>528412243
noh~

>>528412243
i have a beautiful ocean view right outside my house and i'm currently sitting inside looking at my computer at this thread
if i wanted fresh air i would be outside

>>528408850
Oh thank god, I've been looking for days. Thanks anon.

>>528411016
So fucking canon

sans is the secret boss of chapter 5

>>528411415
How would that even be kino? Don't wanna see that, man.

>>528412243
I hate summer

>>528410072
Is Dess Dolores Dei?

>>528411896
Gerson literally says that stories poisoned by irony are bad. People ignore this and think everything Toby does is some ironic gotcha for the audience.

Good afternoon Krusie nation!

What I find interesting is about Dessknight theories is how they rely not just on what we know of Dess herself but her relation to other characters.
Dess
>Is known for using baseball bats, and the Knight's sword initially looks like a bat when they pull it out.
>Is associated with the song "Lost Girl", which seems to be a part of the "Black Knife", the Knight's battle theme.
>Is, of course, heavily associated with Christmas, and the Knight is fought by a snowy area with a giant christmas tree locked behind a door with the code 1225
But then there's also Dess's association with Asriel (She had his clothes and retainer, and they have very similar stars on their walls)
>The Knight has an attack very similar to Asriel's Hypergoner move from Undertale.
Then there also links that Dess has to Kris which can inform details about the Knight. That's not even getting into the meta reason of "It'd be similar to Mother 3's Masked Man, and Toby has claimed to have taken a lot of inspiration from that game.)
I'd like to see a big list of the potential reasons for Dess being the Knight because, like, it's a lot and there's quite a variety in them too, it's pretty fascinating. It honestly would suck a little bit if Dess isn't the Knight because it's one of the more satisfying conclusions.

>>528412039
December is the phone person anon, it's so obvious but nobody gets it

>>528412094
Anon... Are you still living in 2024? We already know Kris is working with the knight. Like. This is 100% undeniable at this point.

Kris was just acting there. To make sure that Susie won't put things together at a later point.

>>528411016
>dogshit overworld sprite
>sexy as fuck face portrait
Yep, this guy is Toby irl

>>528412243
it's 3AM

>Get the fuck out of here. Fuck this place, fuck this world, fuck this life, fuck this body -- just fucking go.

>>528412243
my dad did set up the pool
might chill for a bit

>>528411943
>Kris literally did all the knightly shit that Kris knighters said they did.
Who made the first two fountains, anon?

>>528412243
We're under an excessive heat warning...the heat index is 105 F...

yeah uh, deltarune is gonna flop if toby doesnt start tripling the amount of lancer in each chapter

>>528412243
It's a beautiful d-ACK

>>528410819
>>528411112
That's an incredibly unhealthy way to live, anon.

>>528407440
>>528407574
>he shrinks from the acid and turns into a living ralsei plush

>>528412390
Toby would make a truly evil unrepentable character finally.

new meme

>>528412243
i've been out for extended periods like three days in a row
it's cloudy today
i'm not going out

>>528412094
but we know now that Kris definitely is involved in some sort of plan involving the Dark Worlds that has to predate chapter 1 so this piece of evidence is totally meaningless.

>>528412243
I went out to the farmer's market today and got lots of fresh veggies

>>528411624
>>528411624
This is obviously a baseball bat. A sword doesn't become steadily wider.

>>528412424
>>when susie has guitar
>ill be right… there…
Unless you think the phone person means “right there” in the bunker? Is that a red herring?

>>528412243
such a gentle thing. i like the post and i love the pic. is it weird if it borderline made me emotional?

now imagining a nice day at the park where the two bros get some wholesome fun.
thank you anon, going to go for a walk in a bit.

18 days

>>528412243
The southern US is too hot at this time of year. I like air conditioning more.

>You suddenly feel afraid of the chair. It looks like blood is peeling off it...

>>528412647
based

>>528412571
I don't want to see Kris get traumatized like that.

And they called it... puppy love.

Here are the spoilers for the endings:
Normal Route - (You) save the world, and everything turns out fine for everyone; they all live happily. Kris goes on a journey/to study, and Noelle lives with Susie.

Weird Route - They save the world and kill (you), but everything turns out fine for everyone; they all live happily. Kris goes on a journey/to study, and Noelle lives with Susie.

(You) are not really needed in this story. Moreover, THEY know it. Kris is already hiding their skills from (you) and the fact that they carry a knife. (You) are either a tool to achieve their goals or their enemy. In the first case, (you) will be tossed out like a used condom after they’re done with (you); in the second, you (will) be destroyed. (Your) fate is unenviable either way. Alas.

Let's be honest, a weird route is just a poorly disguised evil/bad/negative route from other RPGs. Something like embracing Durge in BG3, Swarm-That-Walks in WOTR, or necron worship in RT.

These paths don’t have good endings. They all end badly. They’re designed solely to embody everything bad. And that means everything in this path will only get worse for everyone. Everyone will suffer. Because that’s the point of this path—absolute evil.

And bad guys only get bad endings. There are no good endings in the snowgrave route for you.

(You) really shouldn't have fucked around with the doe.

I love Spamtenna. Even if they're divorced.

>>528412682
>buff susie
HOT
>twunk kris
ehh, not bad i guess?

>>528412686
The stain on susie’s bed is obviously an old blood stain but i like to think its a shit stain

>>528412682
wtf you can't show they/them chest on a blue board....

>>528412724
there HAS to be a nicer way to push (You) out of kris...

>>528412661
Wow... She's raising up her bat... Bravo Toby...

>>528411162
there’s so much cute shit locked into ACTs this time around

>>528412669
Nice, I hope you have fun

>>528412661
black shard description:
>A dagger-like shard of the Black Knife. Strikes the weakness of dark-element enemies.
that thing is literally called the BLACK KNIFE you fucking MO-RAN

>>528412419
there's also the knight sharing several of Kris's poses, which would make sense if Kris picked them up from Dess in the first place
plus the knight showing up in the climax of a chapter all about kris's early childhood that makes frequent allusions to dess, and again in a chapter all about pining for a long-gone past vs accepting that things have changed forever and there's no going back or making the good times last forever

>>528411479
The writer's job is to outsmart the audience. This is simply how stories work now. Everything is a mystery box and the goal is to make sure the audience can't guess what's really happening.

>>528412724
>You fool! What are you waiting for?! Mount a rescue operation and go get her back!

>>528412763
Me too

I wish Tenna would molest me

>>528411884
It was probably a joke...besides they're good friends so why not make it a working relationship, i mean as far as we've seen, Toriel is not interested in Asgore...for now
>>528411956
I don't think so...sure she might be devastated but also she definitely wouldn't do that, she has kids to take care of (Susie is like her adoptive daughter) and she teaches as school so that's also like her "family kids", usually kindergarten teachers get attached to some kids plus hey she likes working with these so i dont think she would've do suicide just because Asgore got that deer ass...

>>528412751
You can stop reposting this, it wasn't interesting the first time.

>>528412929
Its a bad that turns into a sword, representing dess becoming more like her mother

>>528412763
Peak art when their size difference is accurate

Kris telling Dess and Carol to kidnap Sans and sacrifice him to the dark (this is a continuation of sans never forgetting the three assholes who dropped him to undertale)

>>528412763
Imagine being their couple's counselor and ending up in an unprofessional throuple...

I’m happy chapters 3 and 4 mixed things up but I’m also said we didn’t get another crazy to pair with Jevil and Spamton.

>>528411683
susis
nosie
susei
nolsei
berdis
sudly
raldly

>>528412661
I wonder if Toby worried that the bat sword was way too obvious. Well it wasn't Toby, it wasn't.

>>528412821
susie knows how to clean bloodstains so it's from when she browned

>>528413016
>representing dess becoming more like her mother

>>528412958
>Dess was aura farming since kris was in diapers
No wonder she became a being of pure edge

>>528412981
Very based

>>528412419
The main villain being a tragic figure intimately connected to the entire cast and a central missing piece in the story up to this point?
sorry anon that's fucking stupid, The Knight is obviously le spooky cat face! or maybe Papyrus!

>day 5
>nobody noticed the thing on this image
>>528411319
>>528411617
Too tomboy and she's like susie, too goth and she's like catti, too unkempt (?) and she's like kris. I had to compromise also to not end up looking too much like other desses because otherwise I would be rather doing fanart of them.
>>528412434
Well I did base them on the individual ow and portrait sprites of carol and noelle.

>>528412564
>Yeah, *yeah*! Let's *fuck* with him! Who does he think he is, assisting *you*?

>>528412929
the Devilsknife is a scythe-shaped axe. The Hammer of Justice is also an axe. Your argument is invalid.

>>528409873
>>528408998
based... so fucking zased...

>>528412798
The masc chin doesn't really appeal to me, but enbies can be twunks as well.

>>528413205

>Your Fave
>Your answer to the Trolley Problem

>>528413198
>zoomer reaction image that does nothing to actually refute the point being made

>Trite, contrived, mediocre, milquetoast, amateurish, infantile, cliche-and-gonorrhea-ridden paean to conformism, eye-fucked me, affront to humanity, war crime, should *literally* be tried for war crimes, resolutely shit, lacking in imagination, uninformed reimagining of, limp-wristed, premature, ill-informed attempt at, talentless fuckfest, recidivistic shitpeddler, pedantic, listless, savagely boring, just one repulsive laugh after another.

Has anyone here learned an instrument because they wanted to play UTDR music

>>528413364
SUPLEX THE TRAM

>>528413226

>>528412724
is this fooly or cooly?

>>528413416
Is what I would do if I wasn’t stupid

The super secret ultimate ending is gonna have us between Gaster and Friend and using both sides of the control to play different things on the screen, across multiple genres, with the screen flipping out and resizing its window periodically

>>528413074
Yeah I find it cuter generally when Spamton is height accurate. Especially since that would mean Tenna would be very delicate with him pre-phone call.

>>528413364
Nubert
Run over as much people as possible

The final prophecy is going to go along the lines of "The world of darkness will be sealed, and its existence forgotten" and here's why I think so:
>Susie's lines about her, Kris or especially Ralsei not letting that happen would make sense in the context of forgetting it all happened, along with her trying to laugh it off as absurd
>Ralsei treated himself and other darkners as objects or toys because he was convinced they would just be thrown away and forgotten later
>he tries to push everyone to have fun and enjoy the adventure because he believed it was just a fleeting thing to them
>perfectly fits with the whole theme of escapism
>main theme of the game is literally called "Don't Forget"
I'm willing to bet that the normal ending of the game will be fulfilling the prophecy and sealing off the dark world, I don't know what the true ending or the weird route ending will be though.

>>528413226
What you said and friend being the knight aren't mutually exclusive anon

reposting for the americans waking up
Dess (and asriel) lora is finished for my fellow ai niggers
>https://civitai.com/models/1706130/dess-and-asriel-deltarune-oc-characters-nai
enjoy

How will (You) fill Ralsei's room in the Chapter 5 room designer minigame?

>>528413016
i don't really see how dess is turning into her mother in any meaningful way if she is the knight

i took ralsei to mac doonal and he liked borgar

>>528412535
I've been saying

those eyes... those beautiful eyes...

>>528412517
I did

Dess having red antlers as a point of connection/bonding with Kris is a gigakino theory. (Pic unrelated)

>>528413115
This will be the party for chapter 5/6 when something happens to Susie and Raisel to the point where Spamton and Jevil lend their aid for majority of the chapter within the dark world. Especially since chapter 3 confirms they are actually just alive but as accessories that can spawn in and out anytime. Calling it.

>(A draft blows, and you feel the cold night's presence.)
>(Still, this never bothered you. In fact...)
I wonder what Toby meant by this. Probably nothing.

>>528413561
Lots and lots of frilly dresses, cakes and sex toys

>>528412665
The phone person being december and her coming to kick susie out of her room and take back her shit makes perfect sense anon.

>>528412517
Still Kris probably. Though at this point that doesn't matter anymore since it could also be Carol.

More importantly we know that when a darkner says the knight made the dark fountain they can be completely wrong.
Kris knighters predicted King didn't meet the knight.
We already knew queen didn't meet the knight.
We know that TV world was made by Kris, but that Tenna believes it was made by the knight.
Church dark fountain was probably made by Carol.

We also know with 100% certain that Kris can just do basically anything they want without the soul. They're not on a time limit (Kris goes to sleep at the end of chapter 4 without the soul), and they can do all kinds of acrobatics. In the weird route soulless Kris brings Berdly to the hospital, (even talking to the nurse that without seeming weird), and then goes to Noelle's house to take off the thorn ring and tell her everything is going to be ok while seeming more like their old self than ever before. So Kris 100% could have made the chapter 2 fountain.

The fucking retarded time window Ace Attorney level bullshit with closet knight is completely wrong.
>B-B-B--B-B-B-BUT THE CHAPTER 4 CLOSET
Just because that closet has someone in it doesn't mean the chapter 2 closet had.

>>528412751
>Normal End
Prophecy plays out, but everything turns out better than expected. Turns out it could be interpreted in a nicer way (Susie figured it out).
>Weird Route
Everything goes to shit.
>Normal Route (with shadow crystals)
Prophecy plays out, but you fuck things up by killing the Knight (Dess).
>Normal Route (with pure crystal)
Super Mega Happy Ending

Kneel

>>528408981

>>528413735
for what?

>>528413716
but the one who kicked susie out and took back Dess's shit was Carol

>>528413516
The prophecy says for the WORLDS plural to be saved so it is absolutely not about ending dark worlds.

>>528413516
>The virgin evil denier vs the chad evil embracer
Yes, I am just playing a video game. Yes, I am ontologically evil.

>>528405940
>shitter dark world
>toilet paper roll
>online asian cutie, green+snake (hisstocrat)
Supremely fucked

so what do we think about the knight also making the east wind blow along with the north one
is there any weird significance to that

>>528413720
>kris made the first two fountains
>when it's said The Knight made them
I know 4th grade literature was really hard but surely you know better

>>528413516
Related to this but I think the plan Kris is taking part in ends in their death which is why they're so fine with betraying Susie in the end, like a "I don't deserve her friendship" and "I'll be gone before the fallout" double whammy
If there is a Normal Ending/True Ending route split, then it'll be between Susie being left alone again and Susie saving Kris and Ralsei

>>528413814
"Sealed" not destroyed, you just wouldn't be able to go back and forth ever again.

no amount of art will change the fact that the knight's proportions eerily match papyrus's

>>528413189
Lmfaoooo

>>528413702
DO YA WANNA BUILD A SNOWGRAVE?
IT DOESN'T HAFTA BE A SNOWGRAVE

>>528413561
crib
changing table
diaper pail

>>528413720
>Still Kris probably.

>>528412661
>A sword doesn't become steadily wider.
There are quite a few different types of swords that flare out. You're a delusional idiot.

>>528413735
Make me

>>528413928
this is how literally any Isekai where the characters return ends, though. I know this story was conceived of when Toby was a teenager but I have to believe he'd be a bit more creative than that

>>528413937
And that it's skeletal... very sus...

>>528413814
it means the light world and the real world, because Toby has the nuclear codes and will launch if any player doesn't uninstall within 24 hours of getting the good ending.

>>528413634
>They're all dorks.

>>528411361
We will together, so it's alright.

>>528413364
>Spamton
>disappear before finishing lobbying for the completion of the privatized railroad (it just ends abruptly and the tram crashlands in the Trash Zone)

>>528413803
Weird route deconfirms carol anon

how do i tell a girl i like her in a noncreep way

>>528413937
I can't hear you

What future chapter moment would have Spamton, Jevil and Eram react like this while in Kris's pocket/inventory?

Dear Toby,
Please show Papyrus in Chapter 5 to end the Knight Papyrus theories.
Sincerely,
Anon #31482

>>528413364
Spamton
I take no action, if they didn't want to be run over by a trolley then they shouldn't have found themselves in this situation in the first place.

>>528413919
Please go play chapter 3 again. Tenna also said that the knight made that fountain. We of course know for absolute certain that the Kris did. King doesn't even know what the knight looks like. The chapter leaders only have a vague idea of what the knight is and are mostly bullshitting.

The Knight is Dess' Heartless.
>>528406856
CatLetterz was a foreshadowing about Mike boss battle, no?

>>528413561
I can maybe get why he might not have put anything in his room since it's been like 2 days since he popped into existence, but why did he wish for a room with no paint and rotting wooden boards for the floor?

>>528413989
Show me a sword with the profile of a baseball bat
It clearly changes shape when she wields it as a sword anyway, you're just being an obtuse retard

>>528414047

>>528414116
suplex a titan

>>528409856
Ralsei

>>528413978
Cope mrs. speedreader

>>528414116
I'm still skeptical about Eram being the Shadow Mantle when it stated it was just in its possession. I feel like some other entity might have been controlling that sprite.

>>528412661
It's a marble

>>528414107
Depends on the context that you know her.

What was up with "Cold Place"?
Is that a physical location in the house? Doesn't really make sense for it to be the fridge/freezer, though?
Is it just a metaphor about how the disappearance of Dess froze up all these relationships?

>>528414160
there's also this moment in Chapter 3 where you face off against the Roaring Knight, and in both Ch1 and 2, is said to be the one who opened the Card Kingdom and Cyber World fountains. Kris is obviously working WITH the knight, whether it's Carol or Dess is still up in the air, but come on.

>File created November 18 2021
>Deltarune released in 2025 because someone didn't pull the lever
Damn

>>528413910
>This toilet paper will show everyone what a bum you are. How little you give a shit. This toilet paper will PUNISH the world.

>>528414107
just make sure she knows it's ok if she doesn't feel the same and just wants to be friends

>>528414269
"Krusie week day 1"
Krusie week tomorrow krusie week tomorrow

>>528413937
The knight must be a version of Papyrus that wants to viciously attack and murder people, and one that's going to, after traveling to Undertale, completely forget what a human looks like. And also he must not know any blue attacks yet

>>528413937
did you know? there's a papyrus inside of you

>>528414416
>rushing chapter development and killing spammy/letting his suffering end
I will NOT pull the lever.

>>528413720
>>528414160
>Tenna believes it was made by the knight.
Tenna was lying to cover for Kris, retard

I think the Mike that Tenna calls out to genuinely isn't real. But his "Mike" is based on the real Mike who was calling Spamton that ghosted him and drove him schizo. Because Tenna is bitter about Spamton's betrayal and wanted to what the fuck Mike was telling him. So he conjured up his own Mike tulpa and pretended it was the real Mike helping him. This sounds like a reasonable theory right?

deltarune ending theory
>Toriel gives birth to a goat skeleton
>it's not alive

>>528414315

>>528414551
>OH MY GOD!!!!

>>528356206
there isnt any holes shown so hopefully fine to just post like this

>>528414374
My stupid first thought was that it's just that the door is open and it's letting cold air in because it's the middle of the night.

>>528414463
all the members of the fun gang have the ability to spindash

>>528414758
But can they wavedash?

>Human....!! I just...want to make spaghetti again...

>>528413937
>papyrus's body
>mettaton's pose
>december's horns and bat
>friend's smile
>gaster's hands

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING

>>528414581
>Kris deals significantly more damage to Tenna if you complete the sword route
Interesting

I really like how much Dessriel art the community is beginning to pump out, considering the fact that we've literally seen neither of them in this world.

I hate how Carol has a bunch of simps despite only being in ONE brief scene that paints her as massive, gaping cunt. The hell is wrong with you people?

>>528414859
an...
amalgamation

your theories are pissing me off

>>528413613
cute

>>528413613
Cute.
I need more ralsei enjoying the light world badly.
>>528414240
It comes naturally to him, unfortunately. A subconcious reflection of his self-perception.

>>528414862
It also changes Tenna's CHECK description to "Despite his size, he's quite fragile"

>>528413919
>Chapter 2 and 4 emphasizes the idea that someone else is making fountains that is outside of Kris's doing. Kris is simply going along with whatever ritualistic insanity the knight and co have going on but is clearly not the knight at all. His only involvement we know so far with making the fountain in 3 but thats it. And even then it was probably apart of the plan with a slight change of pace since luring Undyne with the slashed tires was probably to make sure his mother doesn't get involved.

>>528414585
Why the fuck does everyone think Noelle's dad is Chinese? He's not Chinese.

>>528414902

>>528414859
>Sheer terror. Panic and screaming.

>>528414864
Sex with evil hags

>>528414864
She wasn't a massive gaping cunt to (Me) though

>>528414859
>The Thrash Machine has three different components: Head, Body, and Shoe.

>>528414727
Imagine Kris and (You) going into his room and finding him playing like this haha

>>528414970
sounds a lot like asgore

>>528414864
The
>YOU are welcome here any time
Doomed the fandom

>>528414982
no anon, no! you can't post that closet! it doesn't mean anything!! I'm not owned!!!

onion-san is the key too all of this

>>528414864
She was mean to Susie. But she said I could come (inside her) whenever I want.

>>528415087
The Knight is a creature Kris made(accidentally) to thrash their own ass.

>>528405917
Frisk is morbidly a beast

>>528414242
>Show me a sword with the profile of a baseball bat
Fake gamer.

>It clearly changes shape when she wields it as a sword anyway,
Headcanon. This is a sprite game.

https://poal.me/7ccyx0

>>528414864

>>528415095
>no more games of pretend Ralsei

>>528415191
>A large person who fits inside the closet
IT'S TENNA

>>528415235
>She's got you by the balls, chief. And she intends to squeeze them.

>>528415268
>to thrash their own ass
l-lewd...

>>528415324
that end is POINTY though

Papyrus is what you get when you extract the dark matter that's corrupting Dess and purify it into a being of good.

https://files.catbox.moe/7pcnq4.mp4

>>528415191
Do the closets still give credit to the theory the knight can't come out at daytime? assuming the knight was in the church the whole day even during service.

>>528413226
>>528413458
>game puts a flag if you did this
>halfbreadchaos raised the volume and a guitar sound plays at the end of the dialogue
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAARKKKK KRESS REAL

>>528415395
i didn't understand this joke

>>528414982
>No my scringly dingly Kris can't be significant even though the entire game is about Kris VS the player! Kris doesn't know what they're doing!!!!!
Holy cope

Did you forget the entire scene where Kris tries to stop us from seeing the code on the guitar?
Did you forget Kris calling over Carol to stop Susie from looking closer at the guitar?

>>528415481
Does this mean Papyrus is transmasc?

>>528415087
Why does Toby let you build the duck then punish you for choosing to build the duck?

>>528415481
>papyrus = dess - d = ess = papyress = pa pure essence
>sans = ness = noelle essence
holy fuark...

>>528415528
what the fuck there is a flag for this?

>>528415191
I don't know if height for lightners change if at all within a dark world. But considering the knight is tall on its own and Dess is probably a similar height, its 100% her or Carol, just saying.

>>528415540
>Did you forget Kris calling over Carol
Weird Route ending deconfirms that being Carol, bro.
In the Weird Route ending, instead of getting the mystery call, Carol calls you and you hear her voice sound and it's a normal text box.

I'M REALLY FUCKING ANGRY

>Kris...I need help here...
>STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT
>I HAD TACO YESTERDAY YOU MEANIE

>>528413516
> weird route ending
You will become the villain and you will be defeated by the heroes.
Your vile actions will force them to become stronger. Strong enough to fuck you up. And it will make their bond stronger too so they all get a happy ending.
Weird route is a big fuck you to the players who like evil routes and expect them to be positive for THEM.

>>528415481
kinda makes sense?
Papyrus still wants to act evil but in general he is a good gentle dude.

>>528415078
>>528415143
>>528415262
>she's actively being nice directly to the actual player
Ah. Yeah, that'd do it. Goddamn you people are touch starved.

goodnight /utg/. i am going to bed now. cya tomorrow.

also, catch this bait
KRIS PRONOUNS

>>528415395
She's a rap god

>>528414585
I think this too, also just saw a comic about it

is he supposed to be so tough or do i just suck8

>>528415540
He is significant but the whole point is when it comes to making the fountains, he only made 3's fountain. Nobody argued about his importance generally.

>>528415395

>>528415052
Who is this?

>>528415862
he's old

>>528415796
*skillfully avoids your bait and wishes you gote night*

>>528414585
>eventually, Tenna calling out to the fake Mike caught the attention of something real

>>528415528
>>528415673
Flags are set to prevent you from triggering an event again. You can't just keep checking the bottom wall to see this scene, you can only see it once.

>>528415550
It wouldn't matter if he was, he's a skeleton. The nigga ain't got no holes.

>>528415796
Good night, fren! Sweet dreams!

>>528415324
There's no baseball bat on the earth shaped like that

>>528415862
Both

If Toby makes Dess unsaveable it's gonna wane on me for weeks like Undertale's Asriel in the end. All the motifs and themes surrounding her just makes me so invested to hopefully find her alive.

>>528415796
good night

>>528406389
>dess is stated to be “lost in darkness”
>the knight’s sword resembles a bat, an item dess is associated with
>the knight has antlers resembling in the holiday family’s
>kris is heavily hinted to have some connection to the knight
>kris is also shown to be working for Carol
>Dess being the knight makes more sense for the plot than it being some random smiling cat

I won't believe Papyrus is involved in anything unless Sans hints that his brother has been obsessed with a weird black gemstone or something

>>528415862
bro just rematch him. he is perfect for grinding susie's heal

>>528415514
This is so stupid, but sped up A Cyber's World is kind of a bop

>>528415729
>You need to get angry. Use swear-words. Mention *spunk*.

For the Kresstards, you know being touched by a giant deerwoman would be horrifying? Not hot? You'd be fucked up for life because of it.

>>528414374
it's the freezer. the metal wasteland was the kitchen sink.

>>528416158
you're not very good at making this sound unappealing anon

>>528413827
same
>>528415756
i dont expect it to be positive for anyone

>>528416158
They're too busy gooning to self-inserting in child rape to care.

where do I go for more veth art

Spoilers for Chapter 5

Now that we know that Ralsei likes video games and that's his one real hobby what games would you give him

>Dess is laughing.

>>528415908
Ahab from Limbus Company

>>528414463
>you cannot comprehend the true form of ralsei's attack

>>528416156
Spamton is just The Joker if he was a puppet crypto shill.

>>528415789
Why does Carol have an obsession with [Heart-Shaped Objects] anyway? Why does she seem happy about (You) hooking up with Noelle at the festival?

>>528416158
Don’t be a coward.

>>528416360
Mr Driller

How the fuck is this the most active general on the board? this isn't even a live service game

>>528412763
I love it too, anon

>>528416343
Carol is President Shinra, FRIEND is Hojo and Gaster is Professor Gast

>>528415720
>"Susie... Guitar...?"
>"I'll be... right there..."
>Carol shows up like 2 minutes later

Honestly it doesn't have to be specifically Carol. But like, Kris absolutely causes Carol to drop whatever she was doing to go home immediately.

>>528415881
It doesn't really matter who made the chapter 1 and 2 fountain anymore. It's either Carol, Kris, maybe Asgore, or perhaps Dess, but whichever one of them it is, they were all in on it. And chapter 1 and 2 were really meant to make you believe it was Kris. Kris knight was the best guess before chapter 3 and 4 released and Kris knighters were the most correct overall.
>No it can't be Kris because then Queen of King would know!
But, they don't know who the knight is. We already know that. The chapter bosses are not reliable sources about the knight. King has never even seen them and Queen straight up confirms that she was just guessing.

>>528415720
>Weird Route ending deconfirms that being Carol, bro.
No, that call just isn't hidden from us. We already know it was Carol talking to Kris because she says "I'll be right there" and then shows up at the house.
>if we can recognize her voice in one call why can't we do it in the other?
Because we're playing a video game and we're limited by the information presented to us. The SOUL doesn't have eyes and ears, it's an extension of us and interacts with the world exactly as we do. It can't hear who was on the phone for the same reason it couldn't see the TV screen in the racing game.

>>528416370
>https://youtu.be/DGAPTWbdGws
Susie, settle down, ok? Settle down Susie.

>>528416478
it's only the third most active, anon.

>>528415862
Don't do anything but attack and heal. Defend if you don't need TP. It took me a bit but it's not too bad. Easier on controller if you're using a keyboard.

>>528413937
.......
Undyne is in DR...as part of the police force...
Undyne was Captain of the Royal Guard...
Papyrus was in the Royal Guard...
If Papyrus is also a police officer...
He would know the Bunker code...

>>528415978
WRONG

>>528416323
> i dont expect it to be positive for anyone
Oh, but it will. For everyone EXCEPT (you). That's the point.

I love Disco Elysium Deltarune

Make a DE Deltarune fangame with Asgore as Harry.

>>528412243

>Wake up
>Remember the Anon who fumbled a tomboy roommate
>Day ruined

>>528415680
The Knight is freakishly tall and their body is obviously warped in some way >>528413735
But this dialogue from Noelle where she refuses to equip the Shadow Mantle seems to be talking about Dess (who else would it be?)

>>528416323
>>528416690
This will be the weird route ending. So yeah, better for everyone.

>There are still people that think Ralsei is Asriel
How pissed would people get at Toby if he let you flirt with your brother for 7 chapters? More than doerape?

>>528409729
Why is Noelle more into her own mindrape than kris

>>528416430
The prophecy requires a cage with human parts, and Kris is the only human in the town Carol is mayor of AND seems to have absolute control over
The prophecy also has a girl who has love find its way to her, and Noelle describes her childhood meetings with Kris as Forced (although this is also to make sure Susie doesn't think they were an item)
All these facts seem connected

>>528415720
>gap in time we can't see anything between putting the thorn ring on noelle and kris going to the bathroom
>the obvious point kris could've called carol like he does in the normal route
>retards instead think this deconfirms it being carol on the phone in the normal route, despite her evidently coming home EARLIER by comparison considering all the goofy shit you didn't get up to in the weird route

>>528416638
and people dare to say /utg/ is the worst general on this board when those are the most active generals in this forsaken place

>>528415616
"deal less damage than other builds but you heal yourself" is not a punishment

>>528415756
But I'm doing this out of some twisted love for Noelle.

>>528416430
Listen, I will scream to the fucking heavens about how Dess isn't the Knight, and how everyone is delusional as fuck about that. But Carol absolutely knows about the SOUL. There's red herrings and then there's the author just telling you.

>Why does she seem happy about (You) hooking up with Noelle at the festival?
Because she's a rich white person, and thus wants to use her child as breeding stock for the bloodline. And what better mate than a person from above the narrative layer? A functional deity.

>>528416478
Instead of being the typical shambling zombie general of avatarfags, /v/ jannies are just blocking discussion of a recent release and sending posters here

>>528405617
can you like.... UnRape him?

>>528416638
>won against gayshit impact
utg sissies we did it

>>528416719

Ralsei should go to Queen for tips on how to be a more fabulous monarch.
He has no giant statues of himself or pikes with his enemies impaled on them outside his castle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HgFNoQZbJo

WOODY THEORY IS BACK WOODY THEORY IS BACK WOODY THEORY IS BACK WOODY THEORY IS BACK WOODY THEORY IS BACK

I think that if the person Kris called was obviously supposed to be Carol then it would've been made clear at the end of chapter 4 with a normal phone call like the one Kris gets on the Weird Route
The fact that the caller is still hidden implies it's not that simple

Deltarune AU where (YOU) don’t exist and snowgrave is just kris’ schizophrenic crashout

>>528416952
cursed

>Kris, we need to listen to another heavy metal remix of black knife

>>528416963
>These people deserve to *die*.

kris deleting their phone history would obfuscate if they made multiple phonecalls to different people. just saying

>>528416638
>beated groomer impact
Keep winning UTG xisters

>>528417069
Oh, so this is just straight up the Metal Gear Solid 5 ruse cruise.

You need to stop.

>>528416065
The cast can’t save Dess but (you) can. Trust the plan

>>528416343
NIGGA MOVE

>>528416660
so don't dodge?

>>528416556
King tells you The Knight opened the fountain.
Seam tells you The Knight opened the fountain.
Jevil warns you about The Knight and told King that The Knight would open the fountain.
Spamton warns you about The Knight.
Queen knows that "The Roaring Knight" made the fountain even though she doesn't know what "The Roaring" is.
Why does Queen believe that The Knight opened her fountain? Who told her that? Why does she even know what "The Knight" is?
Maybe you should believe what the game is telling you instead of desperately clinging on to your cope

>>528417243

>>528416556
>But, they don't know who the knight is.
Thats exactly the point. I wouldn't really use the closet in chapter 2 any attention had chapter 4 not had something eerily similar situation that leads a lot of credence that its the knight hiding in these locations after making the fountain for various reasons. Kris is out of the equation when it comes to the fountain making, that is what I'm trying to get that. So far and hes been apart of the ploy as has the same amount of importance to the plan as everyone involved does so far.
>Kris knight was the best guess before chapter 3 and 4 released
And we aren't pre-chapter 3~4 anymore. Theres no reason to assume Kris retroactively made the fountains in chapter 1 and 2 anymore like one of the Anons claimed he did via speedreading.

>>528416323
The whole point of the weird route is the subversion of expectations. You expect it to be an evil route, but in reality, only you are committing evil, and the characters will respond by treating you as evil and defeating you. And everything will be fine for them.
>>528416914
Noelle will end up with Susie in EVERY route. You know it because you know who Toby is and what he likes.
Also, she will hate you in weird route

Kris knows that pierced nipples taste like housekeys

>>528413570
>cold
>ruthless
>does whatever it takes for a purpose
Similar to snowgrave noelle where she becomes the girl, using a sword and participating in a purpose which ultimately brings pain and loss. And like kris who uses a sword and seems to have intentionally lured undyne to eliminate/capture her

>Susie rinds out Kris is working with the knight
>Attributes it to (you)r doing, instead of Kris
>After all, Kris is her friend and would never betray her like that
>After she gets (you) out of Kris, right when she thinks she has her friend back
>Kris strikes her down

>>528416408
Spamton IS the joker

>>528417117
fuckin dipshit children making water come out of my eyes
how can i beat the game if i cant fcking see god dman

>>528417378
Ahahaha, you UNDERESTIMATE me, I will get rid of Susie so she will depend on me alone.

>>528417243
I WILL NEVER DIE

Retro gaming time

>>528415935
>>528414585
"Mike" may really be a name of FRIEND, and when you do something to try to "be Mike", you do in some metaphysical sense actually become HIM for a time.
FRIEND looks like a hand with hooks for marionette strings between his fingers.
This could also be related to striving to become a "big shot".
This just came to mind, but remember at the very end of Spamton NEO's fight, when Spamton asks you to cut the last string, he says
>AND THIS TIME... I LIVE FOR MYSELF!!!
>NO... MYSELF AND MY [Friend(s)]!!!
But then he's severed from the strings and that KOs NEO.
And then in chapter 3 we learned that Spamton freaked the fuck out right as he was getting ready to sign a deal with Tenna.
In other words, both times that Spamton was at his highest, he tried to strike it out with someone else and he then immediately lost everything.
It's a weird and cryptic character, honestly. I don't have a conclusion here. He makes deals with people and he possibly can possess you (or at least on some philosophical level you can "become him"), and he doesn't like it when you become friends with other people.
It's been pointed out before that FRIEND only fully shows itself when Kris is alone in the party. At the teacup, or the SMILE in the S room vending machine. (He presumably gives Kris the controller, and *maybe* he spirited away Ramb.) He's invisible in ch4 and only revealed by the sound waves, and that's when Susie is with you.
I think ch5 being the "field of pink and gold" will reveal him as a main antagonist.

>>528416953
>FUCK HIM. HE TREATED YOU LIKE GODDAMN HUMAN WASTE.

>>528417069
>Cancelled Cowboy Puppet schizoboss in Asgore's flower shop
Best Friend Inside Me

Reminder that inanimate objects become sapient beings in the Dark World. And Kris carries around a knife at all times. And there's already been a Legend of Zelda parody.

>>528417160
people are retarded and can't understand red herrings and obvious clues.

>>528417397
>keeps on licking his housekeys to remember that nostalgic taste
>everyone around him is endlessly confused as to why he keeps sticking his keys in his mouth

>>528416890
Why did everyone assume that the "forced" referred to Noelle's parents somehow? Assumed it was more like: your older brother and sister have to drag you along on their festival date and you have no choice but to ride the wheel together so they can make out in their own gondola.

Or, being little same-aged kids in the family and everyone just making you take pictures together because "aw cute", you know. Nothing serious like arranged marriage or something. Toriel has never even brought up Noelle and Kris's relationship, if it was that serious she might push it too or something.

>>528413735
Hnng

>>528417419
>and then Kris and Dess kissed each other

>>528417217
calm your udders kris, or i'll call dess to breed your retarded hole

>>528414585
did you not see the real Mike?

Frisk remains our strongest warrior

>>528417474
No, you won't. There will not be such option. Toby is yuri lover and faggot pansexual. This shit WILL happen in every route no matter what. Just accept it, little one.

>>528416638
Is there a way to see it from when the game first came out? There's no way we weren't on top for at least a while.

>>528416638
/utg/ is the sanest pleace i've been to unironically, it's cozy in here, i don't check any other generals, not a lot of games that have this much active threads, usually threads that last days on cause no activity and no topics to discuss
/utg/ feels special, i like it here

Do you think we'll learn the circumstances of Kris's adoption or is it too late for that? I thought ch3 would explore it, maybe have old tapes you can find like in UT.

>>528415935
>kris and co invented characters like queen
>these fantasies became real with the dark fountains
>tenna and spamton schizo out over a mike who isnt there
>mike becomes real in the darkest corners of the dark (double darkner)

>>528417485
It was game over a decade ago. Stop.

And yes, that shit is STILL going a decade later. These people are broken.

>>528417419
>...But (You) refuse.
>hop into her body before it fully dusts
>give her the DETERMINATION to keep going
>she's starting to melt a little though

>>528417673
I won't, I will fight fate, I will earn it!

>>528417491
retard

>>528417690
>go to arch.b4k.dev
>go to the thread where deltarune dropped
>manually count how many posts there were in one minute
>do the math

>>528417160
Or maybe there's intrigue being preserved in the normal route (for people who aren't paying that much attention) but the Weird Route rewards you with more information
Like how Dess being The Knight is immediately obvious as soon as you see her at the end of Chapter 3 if you've been paying attention and obsessing over every detail about this game for the past four years, but normalfags aren't sure and Chapter 4 leads them to believe it's Carol.

I think Mike is just Tenna's "guy" that Spamton still liked like an ex-lover's beloved pet who ended up becoming infinitely bigger in the fandom than intended because the gap between chapter 2 and 3 was 4 years instead of 2 seconds
Like FRIEND is still around and Inside Me or whatever but Mike is exactly what he seems and on the level

>>528417419
>lmfao the yellow kid dont even know about resets

FUCK THIS TURTLE

>>528417801
You will do only what Toby allows you to do.

>>528412243
>on days like these, /utg/ers like you should be out getting some fresh air
I came back from swimming two hours ago, it was refreshing, hot days hit hard so i try to get as much in water as possible and drink a lot of water and turn on the fan

>>528409046
Wow, does this... Is just a part of a longer greentext right? There is more right?

>>528417737
I agree

>>528417491
>It's been pointed out before that FRIEND only fully shows itself when Kris is alone in the party. At the teacup, or the SMILE in the S room vending machine. (He presumably gives Kris the controller, and *maybe* he spirited away Ramb.) He's invisible in ch4 and only revealed by the sound waves, and that's when Susie is with you.

>I think it's coming for me, answer the phone
>the hands wait until you're all alone

>>528417517
Where can I read that?

this whole thread needs to get a JOB

>>528415830
forgive the likely sub par TL I'm very new to this
>Aa~ Jeez! Mr. Tena is calling for Mike...
>Why aren't those guys here!
>(those guys)
>Gotta change quick....
>Mike-kun...?
>!!!
>Mr. Te-Tena?! When did you get here?!
>Oh-... this is...
>This is bad..., I've been had......!!
>Mike-ku~~~n!
>I really wanted to meet you~~~!
>Eh....?
>Mike-kun, this time, my programme also.................
>Nn? Is something the matter? You made such a surprised face...
>N,No...
>More importantly, won't you stay by my side until I fall asleep like always.....? Mike-kun.....
>....Of, of course.... Tena...
>Mr. Tena...
>Who really is Mike....?
>Just who in the world are you really seeing...?
>If he can recognize the 3 fake Mikes, then I wonder if he sees anyone in Mike's room as Mike, is what I think about this manga