DEFEAT

>Origins reveal trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU48saHVmh4
>Origins gameplay features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8
>Origins - Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MEAKfgMyc
>Abyss - Launch Trailer
https://youtu.be/jn238X1UXoU?si=Yzz2RFhh_fDPOR2B
>Pirate Warriors 4 - Next Generation Trailer
https://youtu.be/GMKNpEASitY?si=yujKnMt-MVyja2mL
>Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kGASsFqQI

NEWS
>Origins spring updates added Photo Mode and various QoL improvements
>Abyss has received new Jin, Atelier, and Samurai Warriors characters, along with a new Traversal Level 6 difficulty and QoL improvements; a new update is currently in development

Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqc
Recommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNS
PS2 game mods: https://pastebin.com/J96YhRu8

>New to the Musou-verse?
The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.
>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel
>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games
>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story
>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history
>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events
>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.

YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.
https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTrivia
https://www.youtube.com/@Klogalous
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollection
https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/
https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/


>FRIENDS:
https://boards.4channel.org/vg/catalog#s=dqg%2F

>PREVIOUS:
>>525820353

>>528407245 (OP)
So what is Abyss like? Who in it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7nJsZWtlBE&t=78s

Can the rank 8 weapons carry you through Ultimate Warrior, or is it better to build a good Rank 7 instead?

>>528411942
UW feels balanced around the rank 8 weapons, I've played a lot on UW and I've never bothered even trying to make good rank 7s. So if you just want to play normally, rank 8 is perfectly fine. If you actually want to be carried, especially through the later stages, you might want to build a good rank 7. Although even that might not be necessary for some of the weapons with really good high-cost skills like great mountain throw.

>>528409294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7nJsZWtlBE&t=78s

>>528411942
Just go for the rank 8 halberd from Lu Bu at Hulao right off the bat, that'll make the rest of UW doable including unlocking the other weapons

wake up babe it's genocide time

So in my WO3 journey I feel like I'm enjoying using Guan Yu the most. I don't even have any attachment to Shu, he's just a complete freight train with a cool weapon type and a simple but effective musou attack. It just lets you delete waves entirely and their officers. Helps he has now yielded me my first five star weapon. Having tonnes of fun but I'm almost spoiled for choice with characters, I guess I can keep playing more. I just get concerned about the cost of buying their weapons and putting growth points in them.

My Guan Yu and Ryu Hayabusa team very comfortably deals with Hard Mode even without promotions.

Goddamn, this was true kino.
I thoroughly enjoyed all 4.5 hours of this two-part film. I just wish the ending was longer. Some of the fight scene editing here and there was a bit choppy too. But still overall an excellent experience.
Also, this ending scene is so gay.
I never realized there was so much homoerotic tension between Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu.

>>528430368
>I just get concerned about the cost of buying their weapons and putting growth points in them.
Don't worry. Gauntlet Mode showers you with money and EXP. And you're gonna be spending a lot of time in Gauntlet Mode later on anyway, so that you can get a lot of the mode's exclusive equipment there.
Alternatively, you can use this guy's farming method if you don't want to do Gauntlet Mode just yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY6Ot9V3kvs
Also, protip: From what I've read in forums, Reach is basically useless in WO3U. You're better off changing that Reach+10 to Osmosis or Absorption, so that your charge attacks can recover musou and HP (both Osmosis and Absorption are pretty much mandatory in Chaos difficulty). Otherwise, you have a solid weapon setup right there.
Before you even tackle Chaos difficulty, you should unlock the gear in pic related. Just so you know, you only need one of the characters listed in each of these brackets in the mission, and you don't even need to use them. Just have them in your party while you're trying to get the item you want, and you'll get it.

>>528437867
Oh, also you need to be on Hard difficulty to get these items. Once you fulfill the listed requirement (kill 1K enemies, etc.), you'll get a notification telling you a treasure has been discovered. Go to your map and the game will tell you where it dropped. Get it and you have your item.

All that's missing here is Lianshi and you have my main Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate team.

>Ginchiyo is built for big Shimazu cock in SW and is molested by Hideyoshi in Nioh
damn, poor Muneshige

>>528413669
>>528417772
I just grabbed the rank 8 sword and halberd. I thought I was under levelled for UW (only Lv68), but YTR was fairly straightforward with the rank 7 halberd from the shop, as was Hulao with my new rank 8 sword.

>>528448294
Twin pikes are also fairly easy to get

>>528449449
I may go for those next. I like the twin pikes, even if I don't have the combos down yet.

>>528449530
Even without using battle arts they can do a lot of damage. Both neutral heavy and running/dodging + heavy are launcher. The former's successive attack rips through shield, the latter's is more for crowds since you'd just run past the officer you launched, but the launcher is still very useful because it closes the gap in the process. What you can do is start holding guard right after the lunge, and then press heavy, you'll get the guard+heavy with spin successive attack, which is much better for juggling. Also a lot of the time you'll want to stop the successive attacks early to hit an officer's shield with the finisher while they're vulnerable, instead of mashing out the maximum having them recover beforehand.

I really like Warriors Orochi 3U, where do I go in the series from here?

>>528458880
Be warned, It's all downhill from here.

>>528458880
Nowhere. It's the peak of the series for old school warriors.

>>528456023
I vote for her.

>>528458880
In the series...as in within Omega Force's Warriors games? You have nowhere else to go. WO3U basically has the best combat mechanics.
If you want a musou game like WO3U that isn't part of Omega Force's Warriors games but still has excellent combat, I suggest the Sengoku Basara series.
Unfortunately, all the good games are in Japanese, so you're gonna have to play with a guide, because even though some of them have English fan patches, they're only for basic stuff like menus. Items are still largely in Japanese.
Of the SB games, you have three choices:
Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes on the PS2.
Sengoku Basara 3 Utage on the PS3.
Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi on the PS3/PS4.
You can emulate all of these. I believe SB4S runs very well on RPCS3, with the bonus of having all DLC content available.
Some of the complex combos you can do there is on par with the kind of stylish shit you can do in character action games like Bayonetta, God Hand or Devil May Cry 3/4/5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFvLSP4Gens

>Try sound test in Origins
>Lu Bu's Theme is at least 30% louder than the other tracks

Is it part of the appeal that the characters never shut the fuck up? I find it really annoying that they won't let me just attack guys and go around the map
I don't mind when they call for help because that's actually important for gameplay

>>528411942
UW is kinda easy with rank 8, you can use unoptimized rank 7s for a bit of challenge

Don't die while I'm sleeping

I want more bodyguard mechanics and customization for Origins 2.
On that note, no more cooldowns or 3 Tactic limits. Give me an MP(Tactics) gauge and the whole list of orders.

>>528475717
I think DW8E had the right idea. Six strategems, and a shared gauge for them that recharges at roughly one unit per minute. But then DW8E strategems include things now covered by items and Battle Arts.

>>528475717
At the very least, I think the "Order to X" tactics should be a default baseline tactic that you always have, with the stages now being designed to accomadate that you always those. I feel it would increase the tactical layer by giving decision of where to send your guards if need be.

>>528474286
*spits blood*

>>528485070
>Order to X
Yeah, I never ended up using those because it was usually easier to just beeline for whatever calamity was unfolding, then run back. Especially when Ziluan being within 20m of someone is enough to heal them. I swear I spent a good chunk of Chibi and Huarong just making laps visiting Wei officers to keep everyone in fighting shape for the final push at the end of both stages.

Is there anywhere that records exactly how much fortitude damage each battle art does? I'm weighing up mastering the various weapon exclusive BAs versus just spamming Ice Luan.

>cheap abyss keeps getting new free content patches
>AAA priced Origins has gotten sweet fuck all

Why are koei like this

Even Red Hare in DW8 feels too slow. I miss being able to equip Charm of Alacrity+20 and Fleet Mail+20 so that I can basically zip around maps on foot at lightspeed without needing to ever ride a horse.

>>528498395
Pretty much all the other highest bravery arts are better than Ice Luan. On Staff and Lance, I think it's more fun and better to lean into their playstyles and (limited) good arts than spending a chunk on Ice Luan anyway.

>>528498669
Abyss requires basically no effort to add to, most the additions so far have just been drip fed from previous games

>>528485070
>>528486285
The orders and formations should both be separate from the attacks like catapult and charge. Put them on the trigger + dpad and don't give them any sort of limit. Tactics like the shield from arrows are never going to be used otherwise.

>>528509367
yeah some are just pretty much useless compared to the others, so I do hope the system is expanded and improved in Origins Part 2.

I hope it feels less gimmicky as well, like your dudes all pulling 50 horses out their asses for a charge just doesn't sit right with me. I'd rather see a return to more robust bodyguard mangement like in 3 & 4 so we can pick their troop types, and that impacts what they can do during the battle in terms of tactics. Troop types/ranks mattering is something I'd like to see return in general, I've been playing 3 & 4 recently and you reallu noticed a different between the troop ranks - private, sergeant, major etc. In the later games including origins, it just doesn't matter because you're meowing them all down like blades of grass.

>>528510485
>Troop types/ranks mattering is something I'd like to see return in general, I've been playing 3 & 4 recently and you reallu noticed a different between the troop ranks - private, sergeant, major etc
I think that's the unfortunate tradeoff for having more enemies on screen, unless you go in the opposite direction from Musou and turn it into something more akin to Mount and Blade where even a high level character should not be engaging more than two or three enemies at a time regardless of power difference.

>>528510485
I think the unnamed officers that you see with like 2 shield gauges are trying to fill that role, its just the gap between them and the regular troops is too large and they just end up feeling like weaker officers. If they made at least one more foot soldier enemy type that was noticeably more threatening than the rest, and mixed them in with the more common troops, it would help bridge that gap.

>>528475717
enemy generals should, at times, have bodyguards as well

>>528517705
They almost had it perfect already with what's there, they just need to work them into more interesting scenarios as well as allowing more dynamic troop tactics. For example, cavalry being a hard disruption unit is great, but they rarely show up throughout the game. Imagine having cavalry show up more often, more shield troop formations covering archers and siege weapons, etc. Origins put in the bulk of the work bringing these elements back to the forefront, now they just need some polish and refinement to truly shine just like going from DW2 to DW3

>>528529897
Yeah I really like bringing the spear wall to stop cavalry, but it's only useful in a handful of stages and at specific points. They've got a lot of great things, they just need to make more use of them.

As for troop types, and player weapons actually, they could do shields properly for once. The shield troops in origins barely feel any different than the non-shield troops, like it's just aesthetics. And the shield wall troops are only in a few specific spots and feel quite gimmicky to fight - noticed you cant even jump over them even if far higher. Shield troops should feel quite different to fight than non-shielded, with clear differences in stats and tactics.

And for the player, It would be interesting to see them done well mechanically. They've already got the perfect block/parrying, so they could add shield bashing, shield charging etc on top of that. Maybe this would be more fitting if they made a slower western medieval DW game or the mythical LoTR crossover, since it would be more fitting to gameplay that wasn't just attack attack attack.

>>528536605
If you're using the staff you can get over them by pressing heavy attack at the peak of the horse's jump. It might work with the sword too, haven't tried.

I think they should merge the AI battle choices of Empires into the main game. I find the replay value of empires is much better because battles can and will play out differently due to the AI deciding on objectives on-the-fly based on whats happening. Meanwhile Origins doesn't even have the random morale factor of the older games, so the stages play out exactly the same every time.

They did toy with formations to some extent in origins, so I think they should fully commit and go fully M&B/TW style and allow officers & player to use various formations like shield wall etc dynamically, based on the situation.

>>528536605
>since it would be more fitting to gameplay that wasn't just attack attack attack.
You pointed it out yourself that shields could be used for bashing and charging. How does that not fit into the category of "attack attack attack"?

Looks like Warriors Abyss is finally implementing that one suggestion pretty much everyone has been asking for. You'll now get a consistent King's Cauldron as a reward after the Lu Bu/Honda clone boss. Say goodbye to ending a run with like 20K tears of blood leftover because the game refuses to give you a King's Cauldron later on in your run (but it sure loves to give you one near the start when you're only like 2-3 floors in).

>>528546651
Those kind of abilities are reactional, situational. In Origins as you cutting down 50 - 100 dudes easily with one short 3 second combo, there's probably not going to be many situations were you'd think of using a shield bash instead other than for the sake of it for fun.

However if things were a bit slower and combat more deadly, those kind of abilites could make more sense for pushing back troops to make space, or charging through etc.

>>528547773
I'm just saying that there's no reason why a shield bash can't also mow down 50-100 dudes, when there's nothing stopping any developer from designing a shield bash to work that way, ESPECIALLY in a series like Warriors where even "weapons" like guitars, flutes or billiard balls can be used to mow down 50-100 dudes with ease.
The only thing stopping a developer is this outdated notion that shields are only parrying/blocking/defensive tools instead of objects that can be used to wreck things.

>>528548363
of course they could add a shield bash that knocks back 50 dudes KOing them like a shotgun, but then it's just serving the same role as your normal weapon

>>528437867
ty anon i'm following the general guidelines in the video, rocking a Xiaohu Dun, Goemon (he funneh) and kaguya team (trinity, trinity, bounty). Dun is the frontliner since he's got a pretty good moveset and musou attack as far as I can tell.
hearing reach is bad makes me sad, i enjoy seeing the absurd hitbox it generates, but i'll kep that in mind.
I still haven't figured out how best to use musou with characters who don't just use it for a big attack (I think most of the Dynasty Warriors characters do this).
Yeah Demon mask and the other items are for sure priority i just keep putting it on the back burner, I could easily get those items.

Ty anon.

>>528550610
Here is the full list of treasures: https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Guide#Warriors_Orochi_3

Be sure to at least get the Iron Gauntlets. It's pretty much mandatory and the single best piece of equipment in the game and maybe even the series.
Also, Gold Gauntlets+Demon Mask+Vestment of Voidance. Equip all three so that you can block anything that isn't a grab with zero problems.
Musou Armor can be either really good or really bad. It can be good if you've got an Absorption setup to quickly regain health when a dozen archers hit you. But it can be really bad if you don't have any situational awareness, because you gain full hyper armor and don't flinch when projectiles hit you. So it's possible you end up dead before you even realize what just happened.

Dun is very good. As is Kaguya. Haven't used Goemon though and I never will, because he's ugly.
Be sure to pay attention to the passives that all characters have. They can be extremely valuable, like passive HP or musou regen for characters you aren't currently using in your team. You can go into the Officer Info menu to see pic related.

>>528550610
>>528559489
Ooops. Wrong image posted. This is what I meant to post.

I'm not hitting page 11.. you are!

>>528485083

The single worst thing about DW8XL is getting trolled by gates closing just as you're approaching them.
Then you get to see them open again as you back off to another area.
It's like Looney Tunes.
And even if you were to get to the gate before it closes, the game stops you with an invisible wall that prevents you from passing.

ARISE WARRIORS

>>528413669
>great mountain throw
I just unlocked that. That BA is ridiculous, even without the double tap glitch from launch.

My wrist is starting to hate me for playing these games, I wish I was less prone to mashing

>>528599163
It's why I appreciate Warriors Abyss allowing us to hold a button instead of mashing it to go up in a normal combo or charge combo.

>>528591325
The grab that the fists have is right up there with it. The spear's dragon BA and the twin pikes throw BA are great too, and they don't have to directly connect to come out. I've whiffed the GMT and gauntlet's grab by trying to hit extreme musou officers as soon as their shield gauge appeared but before their animation was actually finished, wasting all the bravery

>>528605242
Yeah, I have noticed occasions where I've hit an enemy officer when they're supposed to be vulnerable, and they just super armour dodge out of the first or second hit. Happens a lot with halberd, but at least Halberd has the C6 that interrupts most attacks.

>>528559489
>>528559728
thanks, so how do I get more slots for the treasures? promotions?

>>528612412
>so how do I get more slots for the treasures?
You mean upgrades like from Charm of Alacrity+1 to +2? As far as I know, it's just doing missions, with harder missions awarding you higher plus versions. They go up to +20.

>>528613594
no i mean, i can only equip two treasure (plus saddle) right now but in WO3 screenshots I see more slots open up. I assumed that was something tied to some progression mechanic.

Unrelated but has anyone here played the Medieval 2 Total War 3 Kingdoms mod? I remember playing as Cao Cao and having an endless onslaught that I mostly solved by using horse archer mercenaries. I'm only bringing it up because I remember, besides Cao Cao himself, my main problem solver general was Xiahou Dun. And now I'm using him a lot here as well.

>>528409294
>>528407245 (OP)
So what is Abyss like?

Hot damn, Sima Yi is insanely strong in this game. I distinctly remember back before I began even playing Warriors Abyss all the posts saying that Sima Yi can carry players to T5 easily. Well, I now know they weren't exaggerating.

>>528618675
>i can only equip two treasure (plus saddle) right now but in WO3 screenshots I see more slots open up. I assumed that was something tied to some progression mechanic.
Oh that. Yeah, you need promotions. You get two 2 extra slots after your first promotion and another 2 after your second promotion. In total, you max out at 6 slots after 2 promotions.

>>528621429
Just another rougelike but with musou mixed in this time.

>>528622442
What exactly makes Sima Yi so strong? I'm looking at his traits and while they're all pretty good, except maybe his shorten summon cooldown while below 50% hp, there's nothing that seems that particularly game breaking

>>528630351
>except maybe his shorten summon cooldown while below 50% hp,
That didn't even factor into my run at all.
What makes him strong is how well he synergizes with ice. Freezing enemies slightly charges musou. You also get free 50% extra damage from frozen enemies. Any character with that sort of free 50% extra damage from [insert elemental status here] is bound to be amazing.
Then there's also him getting a free extra Wisdom emblem every time you pick Wisdom from one of those random emblem orbs that drop during levels. It's why my Wisdom was maxed out so easily.

>>528632806
>>528630351
Oh, and I forgot to add: His moveset is largely stationary and filled with round AoEs, so unlike some characters who have movesets that involve them constantly zipping around (like Wang Yi), resulting in them sometimes being difficult to handle when trying to melt down a boss with a broken barrier, Sima Yi's moveset is perfect for doing just that.

>>528621429
>pick an officer for your character
>go through 33 floors (28 of which are for fighting mobs and 5 are for fighting bosses)
>beating each floor rewards you with a choice of an emblem to boost a stat of your choosing alongside an accompanying officer to summon to do a single attack that goes on cooldown
>the summonable officer also has various passives
>your run is basically creating a character+stat+summon synergy that can create an overpowered build that melts through floors and bosses
>each run generally lasts between 45 minutes to an hour
>beating a run with a character unlocks the next tier of difficulty (there are a total of 7 tiers of difficulty, including the base tier)
>the higher the difficulty tier, the denser and crazier enemy waves become (with bosses often appearing in regular floors in weakened forms on the higher tiers)

It's super fun. On lower difficulties, you don't even have to care about minmaxing or character tiers all that much. The game is still very balanced at that early phase. And even if you have zero interest in going to higher difficulties, you still can enjoy casual runs with 100+ musou characters.

Does DW6 deserve the positive re-evaluation it's been getting lately?

>>528437867
>>528622442
He was even more busted before that one update.

>>528650413
It does a lot of cool things
Just a bunch of not so cool things too

>>528547458
I once had a run where I finished it with 50k tears unspent. I was freakin' mad when that happened.

>>528661843
A braindead obvious solution to this problem would be to have any leftover Tears of Blood be converted into EXP so that you can speed up the cumulative leveling process to LV500.
Or alternatively, allow players to carry over the leftover Tears of Blood you had in your previous run so that you can use it in your next run.

>>528657559
Was he nerfed in an update?

Feels good cutting down 7 minutes from my previous T3 run (>>528011442).
Having 8 points in Skill emblems as early as possible makes all the difference, because the extra fireballs you get on his C2 EX and C5 EX (that you can only get with 8 points of Skill) jacks up your musou gauge like crazy fast.
If I had better RNG in missions and got fewer "kill the miniboss" missions in early game, I probably could have cleared this run in 42-43 minutes, because fighting miniboss missions when you're only in world 2 and barely have any semblance of damage in your build is a pain.

>>528447230
I think Hideyoshi gave Ginchiyo Amrita aids and that’s why she died

everything and everyone is getting a fighting game these days, Koei-Tecmo should make a DW fighter again

>>528650413
eh, so-so

>>528650413
Renbu and the bizarre weapon choices for most of the cast are a huge albatross around the game's neck, along with less pressing issues like the over the top fantasy character design or the RNG horse grinding. I can't consciously consider it the worst game after DW9 released, and I know a lot of people would rather play it over DW2 as well, but it's still hard for me to totally handwave something as fundamental as the combat being bad and praise the stuff it did well.

Just bought warrior abyss. Is Emna... a dude?
Besides that, I was playing with Kenshin Uesugi and he would randomly summon a stand but none of his skills mention that. Is that info tucked away somewhere?

>>528669452
IIRC Sima Yi attack boost against frozen enemies was bugged, in that it was giving a way bigger boost than it was supposed it. That has since bern patched

>>528704346
>Is Emna...
Yes

Nineji

Are there no heroes left in this thread?

>>528704346
Kenshin thought he was the reincarnation of Bishamonten who was known as a God of War in history. Dude literally just summons himself because he's got a big ego

>>528704346
>Is Emna... a dude?
He's one of my boywives, alongside Ranmaru and SW5 Ieyasu and SW5 Takakage.
>Besides that, I was playing with Kenshin Uesugi and he would randomly summon a stand but none of his skills mention that. Is that info tucked away somewhere?
I'm assuming this is your first Warriors game? I don't say this to insult you. I'm just saying that WA basically uses movesets from previous Warriors games, and in those games, it was explained that if you press a certain button with Kenshin, he gets a temporary stand that doubles his damage. In previous games, it was pressing R1. All "special moves" were bound to that button. But since the controls in WA have been adjusted, there are no special moves bound to R1, and instead his stand is integrated to his moveset.

Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce has my favorite Taishi Ci design.

Perfect timing, I was looking for a thread to test my new bump on.

Abyss update formally revealed, adding Ryu Hayabusa, Ayane, Momiji, and Rachel from Ninja Gaiden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjTMOVMMWr0

>>528763761
Abyss is my favorite Asset Reused: The Game.

Tadakatsu being the Japanese Zhang Fei/Lu Bu would make Keiji the Japanese Zhang Liao right?

>>528772996
They built him up so much in Warriors Orochi as a big bad when he was working for Orochi like Lü Bu only to have him be a big nothing in SW

>>528734275
That is the most based shit ever.
>>528740896
Yeah I picked it up on sale the other day. I wasn't expecting much but was surprised on how fun it is.

>>528763761
Interesting. We got the NG characters before we even got Lianshi or some of the Orochi characters like Taira, Da Ji, Hundun or, well, Orochi himself.
Not that I'm complaining.
I just hope we eventually get those characters in the future. We're in hell after all. Having Hundun causing chaos in hell would be thematically appropriate.

>>528763761
WTF these unique tactics are kind of crazy.
And of course Ryu grants 4 emblems. Why wouldn't he?

>Warriors Abyss gets 4th major content update in the 5 months it's been out
>meanwhile, in DWO...

>>528763761
That Zhao Yun costume is the only reason I ever bothered playing Sigma 2

>>528784036
To be fair it's virtually all reused content in an already very cheap game

>>528784036
DW:O updates actually take some effort, and koei doesn't do effort for free so it would have to be paid DLC. And it seems like they might go straight onto Origins Part 2 instead of doing an Xtreme legends style expansion.

The last origins patch might actually be it.

>>528792127
It's still quite the contrast when people paid an AAA premium price for Origins, but its the much cheaper roguelike that's getting free content updates.

It costs nothing to update the game so that you can replay missions solely as companions like Zhao Yun or Guan Yu.

>>528795625
Depends on how its done. If it's literally just replacing Ziluan's model on the screen, sure. They just have to make sure that in battles were those characters already exist, you start from their position.

However if they were added as actual new characters with their own skill trees etc, that could be more work than you might think.

The weapons poll they did back in January makes me think DLC is coming, it just might be a fuller sized XL-esque DLC they can't actually sell as XL because of Capcom patent trolling.

>>528805964
>they can't actually sell as XL
Can't they still just use the name?

Post your favorite tunes from a musou game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07MevCwwoA

>>528831125
I was glad they reused this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc_VYR9oe20

>>528795625
When they announced that last update months ago I had thought it would be this and maybe a thrown together free mode menu.

>>528831125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At_s67KTIOM
Origins' original tracks are so good, I think it's one of the best soundtracks in the series

>>528685618
I'd play it, we need more 3D fighters

>>528831125
ryu hayabusa's remixed theme from wo3 is really good

>>528805964
My guess is a big expansion adding some new routes alongside a switch 2 port

How the fuck do I play Xun Yu in Abyss? I understand the gist of his moveset, but I suck at application and couldn't possibly figure out any nuances.

New Transcendence feature coming in the next update
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/1938165192120266933

>>528884997
Yo what the fuck? That's actually a game changer.

>>528884997
Yo. finally the bottom feeders are playable!

>>528895062
>80k a pop

You think we'll get anything for the 25th anniversary?

>>528898590
80K is literally nothing. As you go about grinding to get a single character to LV500 to prep him/her for T6, you're gonna be swimming in karma embers. I'm glad we finally have a way to use karma embers for something other than just unlocking unique weapons.

>>528884997
Oh, looks like cumulative levels have now been raised to max out at 750.

>>528909280
if its anything like what Dragon's dogma 2 fans got while waiting for a DLC, we will get a thanks & free .PNG file

>>528916304
That's about what I expect

Qin Shi Huang First Emperor of China or Liu Bang The Peasant who became his dynasty successor which one could make a better Warriors game if done properly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-xbh_q0RoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBgawuphf8

>>528928740
I’ve always vouched for a late era Warring States period musou/ROTK type of game or if that’s too obscure, do a End of Qin/Chu-Han Contention musou/ROTK game

>>528916304
Sho hasn't fled the company after Origins disappointed everyone so we should avoid that fate at least

>>528932547
A musou game based on Kingdom, a Warring States period manga that's really popular in China, makes too much sense for Koei to make probably

Steam Summer sale is up.

One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is 75% off.
Is it any good?
I know nothing about One Piece and have never played a One Piece Warriors game.

>>528950748
Or should I get OPPW3? That's 90 percent off. The reviews say the PC port is insanely buggy and prone to crashing though.

>>528950748
nice

Page 10 in an hour jesus

I'm enjoying Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes so far on PCSX2, but I'm surprised that there is basically no charge attack system. Even Fate/Extella Link has a charge attack system.

He won.

Damn, what a difference

How useful is 33% reduced charge time in Origins? I'm guessing it's great for Podao, but that about the other weapon types? Does it work for Lance given its particular charging mechanic?

>>528990870
I never tested it, but lance is based on how many hits you take I think, so not sure how it would work

>>528990870
I don't know if it reduces the amount of hits you'd need to absorb but I'm not sure that'd even be a good thing. Most of the time, I hit the max endurance before an officer is done attacking, so the charge interrupts them but doesn't break their shields because they weren't vulnerable.

>>528988951
right is what Hideyoshi would have you believe in the noh plays where he starred as himself

>>528988951
Man vs. Monkey

>>528988951
Genetics

Are you able to skip around doing the mix of saving Dian Wei and Guo Jia to unlock all the cutscenes for Wei in Origins, or do you have to replay the whole stretch of missions every time?

You can now spend Karma Emblems to raisr level cap
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/1938542777341743219

>>529037114
Replay twice from Ch.3 keeping both Dian Wei and Guo Jia, and from Ch.5 for only Guo Jia to unlock everything

>>529037151
Another excellent addition. Now please make it so that any leftover Tears of Blood gets converted into cumulative EXP. Because even with the new addition of having a guaranteed King's Cauldron after the Lu Bu/Honda clone, you'll still likely have ToBs leftover after spending them all. Even if it's only like a 10K > 1 LV conversion rate, it'd still be useful.

>>529040008
Thanks, I'll just blitz it on Historian difficulty

>>529037151
Is there a release date for the update yet?

>>529070305
Burger day

>Persona 5 Strikers 2
>Final Fantasy Musou
>Dragon quest 3
>Zelda Musou 3
>Gundam Musou 4
>Tales of Musou
>Pirate warrior 5
I can see 2 of them happening the ps6/Xbox/switch 2 gen , at least a new Zelda (previous consoles had one each), and PW5 if OP end before the gen is over.

I got Battlefront 2 for cheap and it's making me really want that Star Wars musou that they've mentioned wanting to make. The Clone Wars would be perfect for it.
>>529074894
Didn't they already announce a new Zelda musou not made by Omega Force?

>>529037114
>>529040008
Wait, does that mean you have to do the Wei storyline three times to get all the cutscenes?

>>529077068
Not the full thing, but you would have to replay a large chunk of chapter 4 and the beginning of chapter 5 because of 2 cutscenes

>>529085909
What about Ooo and Shu? I'm guessing a similar deal for Sun Jian/Ce, but Shu only has one hypothetical flag that's just before Chibi anyway.

>>529091384
Wu doesn't have any special cutscenes you need to go back for, it's just completing the bonds for Sun Jian and Ce. And yeah Shu doesn't actually change anything. Speaking of bonds though, you will have to go back to chapter 1 for Zhang Jiao's

>>529091384
It's only Wei because they have one cutscene that only plays if Guo Jia is alive but Dian Wei is dead in chapter 5. I suspect it was worked on first given it has the most fleshed out hypothetical route and has the proper bookend to the story ending with a Guan Yu fight.

>>529094195
So the quickest path is...
>Play Wei historical route
>Rewind to save Guo Jia only, get cutscene
>Rewind to save Dian Wei, play full hypothetical route
And yeah, Wei route feels more fleshed out compared to Wu. Haven't played Shu beyond Battle of Jieqiao.

Not a fan of how you're limited to only 2 specials at a time in Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes.
The movesets are already limited with how you don't have any charge attacks.
You don't even have any special R1 attacks.
You have an 8-hit normal string.
You have your 2 specials. (Granted, some of them have special properties that can allow you to change the way the attacks work, but it's still essentially the same move.)
You have your musou.
You have light and strong attacks as aerial combat.
That's it.
I heard that Sengoku Basara allows you to do some crazy combos, but I guess that's for later entries. Because this entry is very barebones in character movesets.

>>529098638
I only have experience with Devil Kings, but apparently the combo didn't become fully cuhrayzee until 3.
DK would be a decent option gameplay wise if the game wasn't so stingy with EXP and new skills. You get a prime attack that for some characters acts as a second combo, but you don't build meter from hitting enemies unless you prime them first.

>>529102148
Yeah, that's what I thought.
SB2H also has this priming system, but instead of building up musou meter, it's for altering every attack so that it counts as two hits instead one, so that you can more easily reach a 500-hit combo that puts you in a special state where you do more damage and attack faster (sort of like rage mode in Samurai Warriors 4).
On paper it sounds interesting, but goddamn are the "priming" attacks janky as fuck, not to mention a "primed" enemy is barely primed for like 2 seconds. Unless you've got your opponent primed near a wall, then the pushback from attacks that prime enemies means that you can only get 1-2 hits on a primed enemy.
I think I'll finish all the main and side stories, and then I'll move onto Sengoku Basara 3 Utage, after which I'll go to Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi.
I can't foresee myself spending any more time on this game than that. I sure as hell won't be grinding characters in SB2H to LV99 and grinding for coins so that I can unlock everything. The game is just too simple. It's also surprisingly animation-focused in terms of responsiveness. You can't do things like jump cancelling or dodge/guard cancel your normal strings.

too lazy to go through and count how many total unique stages origins has given how many are so large they're chopped up and reused all the time. i'd have to guess somewhere around 15

>>529114912
>YTR
>Luoyang
>Si Shui Gate
>Hu Lao Gate
>Xu Province
>First Battle of Puyang
>Xiapi
>Baima
>Guandu
>Mt. Bailiang
>Conquest of Wu
>Mt. Xisai
>Luijiang
>Subjugation of Huang Zu
>Sanjiangkou
>Guan Yu's escape
>Eight gates
>Bo Wang Po
>Changban
>Chibi
>Huarong
Those are the main ones that get chopped down for smaller stages, and there's also
>The castle siege defense stage (in chapter 3, with Taishi Ci for Shu and against Lu Bu for Wei)
>The large castle siege (from subjugation of Yuan Shu)
>The smaller castle siege (Wan castle)
>Stage from Liu Bei's escape at Xiaopei
>The more open field (from Dong Zhuo vs. Yellow Turbans in chapter 1, and Gongsun Zan vs Yuan Shu in chapter 3)
I think that's all of them but I'm going mostly off memory. Changban and Sanjiangkou might actually be the same stage but I'm not 100% sure because the playable areas never intersect, the very end of Changban just looks like it could be in the same area. And I have no idea where the Zhou Yu stage at the end of Wu chapter 3 is from. Honestly I didn't realize there were that many because they're cut up pretty often like you mentioned.

Not yet

New time attack-esque mode called Void of Ephemerality is being added
https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1938885086403011057

>>528784036
I wish they put all past costumes into it instead of just DW3, SW1 and the modern day one. That would be nice.

Any recommendations for good east asian genocide movies with focus on military strategy/tactics, or alternatively the female characters?
(I've seen red cliff and watched the three kingdoms series.)

>>529130735
King’s war is about the end of the Qin and the period that comes after

>>528993440
Yeah, I like the concept of the lance, but it's so hard to use in practice because of the mechanics of breaking fortitude. Maybe if it did slightly more health damage to make up for the slower offensive potential due to all the charging up and not getting able to trigger assaults reliably.

>>529132658
From what I can tell, the lynchpin of Lance at higher difficulties is the Tenacious Heart battle art, which puts you the red state outside of charge attacks for some amount of time. This allows to tank damage and more easily get the full charge. Combine it with other Battle Arts like Vengeful Stormquake and Battle Cry Blast and you get this:
https://youtu.be/G9C06f2U63U?si=gjd3iiXUSQyHRzW7

>>529137428
Right, that seems a lot more fluid than how Lance performs just trying to use the fully charged attacks normally.

If they made Dynasty Warriors Origins 2 what would be different from one?

>>529143929
Maybe focus on the post Chibi period. You can still call it 'Origins' because the three kingdoms still aren't proper kingdoms/dynasties until after Fan Castle. The problem is picking an end point. Fan Castle involves all three kingdoms again, but only gives you a decade to work with versus the 25 years covered by Origins, even if quite a lot happens in that decade. Anything after Yiling is just Shu and Wu attacking Wei from two completely different directions.

>>529145001
What about CAO Pi and his Five Armies who was supposed to invade Liu Shan? That had all three of them.

Had a brief nightmare that /eagg/ archived again

>>528950748
>>528950929
yeah avoid the pw3 pc port. and if you just enjoy musou, go for pw4, feel free to skip the cutscenes

>>529126951
>rewards are crystal saplings, according to the Twitter post
I hope this shit adds to cumulative levels as well. Anything that helps speed up the cumulative level grind is good.

>>529145001
I think they have to bite the bullet and go with the tried and true Wuzhang/Hefei Castle final battles, unless they want to go DW7 again and throw in Dongkou as a final battle against Zhang Liao deal for Wu.

Thoughts on Fate/Samurai Remnant's version of Zhou Yu?

>>529171861
I fully expected to hear a post about how he’s some anon’s boywife #5

Just because we're a supply post doesn't mean we can't fight!

>>529147314
Never happened. Cao Pi adopted the "Wu first" strategy. He never had the chance to attack Shu.
>but muh romance
Didn't happen in the novel either. They just make Wu refusing to support the proposed invasion as the reason for Cao Pi adopting the "Wu first" strategy instead of the historical reason.

Jus got into Dynasty warriors for the first time after getting into the whole Rot3K lore through Total War and got way too deep into it.

I'm currently downloading Origins after playing the demo. What exactly am I in for? Are there like a lot of equipment progression and stuff? How does faction allegiance work, if at all? Won't I have to pick a side at some point? Do I get to play with/along the heroes from the faction I ally with? Is there any deviation from the story? Do I get to change the course of events?

cheers

What power level do you need for first Abyss clear? Made it to the 4th boss @ ~100k and was melted.

>>529189084
>What exactly am I in for?
A game spanning the period from 184 at the start of the Yellow Turban Rebellion up to 208 with the Battle of Chibi, told from the perspective of a nameless amnesiac swordsman with a bit of his own OC lore sprinkled in
>Are there like a lot of equipment progression and stuff?
You'll unlock different weapons over the course of the story and continually unlock upgrades for them, though that mostly consists of different moves or just basic stat boosts
>How does faction allegiance work, if at all? Won't I have to pick a side at some point?
For the first two chapters of the game, you play with everyone on the same side. In chapter 3, the three kingdoms split off and you can start choosing whether to side with one kingdom immediately, or sample each of their missions. You have to fully max out at least one kingdom's completion to proceed to chapter 4 where you then have to commit to one kingdom for the rest of that playthrough.

You'll also automatically have a checkpoint at the start of chapter 3 you can reload at any time to play through the other kingdoms rather than having to redo the first two chapters again.
>Do I get to play with/along the heroes from the faction I ally with?
Yes
>Is there any deviation from the story? Do I get to change the course of events?
Very little in Origins. There's a few alternate decisions you can make mid-battle in a few lategame missions on each route that are hard enough you'll likely need to come back on another playthrough to do. If you do all of them, you unlock a 'better' ending for each faction at the end, but this is all very minimal stuff: no extra characters, levels, etc. It feels like something they tacked on late in development.

>>529190765
Wait, this only goes up to 208? I mean I guess it's called origins, but it barely goes into the three kingdoms period proper.... To be fair it's probably the most fun part anyway so whatever...

>>529190987
They cover a lot of battles that have otherwise been ignored by the series or briefly rolled into another conflict due to the smaller timeframe. You get a lot more buildup to events like the YTR, Dong Zhuo's reign of terror, etc. compared to past games where you might get a single cutscene, stage, and two sentences of loading screen blurb before it jumps forward 5 years.

>>529189345
I don't know exactly how power levels are calculated, but what's most important for damage output is making sure you have a good combination of emblems and officers.
What was your character and how did you spread your emblems?

>>529181860
The base system in 5 never felt like it did anything

>Have fun playing Warriors Abyss on my desktop
>Want to play it with a laptop on the go
>Game slows to a crawl when the enemies swarn in
>Check system requirement
That's a surprisingly high hardware requirement for an asset flip of a PS3 game.

>>529194319
That can't be right. I can play it just fine on my PC with my GTX 1060 6GB and my AMD Ryzen 7 2700x that's like 8 years old right now. Granted, I have to lower some settings to get it run at 60fps relatively smoothly, but it's still pretty damn smooth like 95% of the time.

>>529195978
Your rig is like 5x stronger than a PS4. Warriors Abyss requires hardware that is much closer to PS5 in spec than PS4.

Is this a Wei, Shu, or Wu general?

I think I'm done with Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes.
Finished all the main and side stories after about 8 hours.
I looked up some videos of people playing on Extreme mode and basically nothing changes about the characters.
The AI behaves essentially the same. They don't become more aggressive as they often do when you go up in difficulties in a Warriors game, nor do their numbers seem to get any denser.
The named officers just do more damage to you and can kill you in about 3 hits even if you have max HP.
Your characters also don't fundamentally play any differently.
Oichi for example is still incredibly slow, clunky and basic in her moveset. The only difference is that now she has access to equipment and items that make her damage output absolutely busted.
I also looked up the full list of equippable items on an old GameFAQs guide, and unlike some of the amazing items in Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate (like the one that allows you to sidestep cancel charge attacks or the one that gives you omnidirectional blocking), I couldn't find a single item in SB2H that does anything even remotely close to being as transformational as the items in WO3U.
At best, the items are gimmicky, like Maeda Keiji having a special item that causes regular enemies to dance if you do a taunt on them.
But I want to be able to do freestyling combos, and this game does not have that. So I'm moving on to Sengoku Basara 3 Utage. Hopefully I can get what I want with that game.

>>529198212
What are the hardware equivalents of PS4 and PS5 nowadays?

>>529194319
What is the switch performance like?

>>529205950
Pretty sure the western internet space as a whole is Wei territory.

>>529205950
Bold of him to show up alone, this general

OK, just installed Sengoku Basara 3 Utage on Dolphin emulator.
Barely 5 minutes into trying out characters in free mode and this game is already a million times better than SB 2 Heroes.
>you can now dodge cancel your normal attack strings and your specials
>instead of being only stuck with 2 specials, you now can now have 5 different specials (you can modify these specials further by pressing the normal attack button, similar to how you could modify them in SB 2 Heroes)
>better yet, you can freely cancel and chain between each of these 5 specials
>judging by the empty slots in each character's Super Arts menu, you probably have up to 3 different Super Arts that you unlock as you level a character up
>you now have 2 different rage modes to choose from in the battle prep menu

If this is the kind of improvement SB's dev team was able to make in the course of just one sequel, then I cannot wait to see what kind of complexity lies in wait in SB 4 Sumeragi.
A shame that some characters I liked in SB2 Heroes (Hideyoshi, Musashi) aren't playable in this game.

>>529175228
Any anon is welcome to claim him as long as I get Xiao Qiao

https://x.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1939247467968495984?t=l3gHzMHFWHypaH2rqqkfhQ&s=19

The absolute state of DW Origins

>>529245139
God damn my 25$ investment is paying off.

>>529245139
I was a bit excited for a second when I read "training hall" and assumed we were actually getting a training mode where we can test character DPS using different loadouts and see what kind of combos for officers and emblems and shit work best. And maybe also allow players to try out characters before doing a run with them.
But I guess this is fine too.

>>529245289
It truly is. Even if you never plan on ever going past T0, just doing a full T0 run with each character once is going to take you about 70+ hours, assuming every run is about 45 minutes.

>>529245139
And to think, we still have a few more days of reveals to go, since they're unveiling one new thing per day on social media until the update comes out.
Please give me my beautiful wife. I don't mind if we get her crossbow or her Mandarin duck hook moveset. Either way is fine. Just give her to me with an option to have her wear her DW7 outfit.

>>529245139
And still no Ma Dai.

>>529245289
So is mine. I've also bought costumes after the fact and don't regret it one bit

>>529246445
>>529246583
The dream is dead, I would say. This has gotta be the final update. Sad not all of our mains made it, pic related(?).

>>529233096
That seems like a pretty big assumption.

Let's put it up to a poll
https://strawpoll.com/GJn446adYnz
https://strawpoll.com/GJn446adYnz
https://strawpoll.com/GJn446adYnz

>>529249165
>tfw my mains were Ma Dai, Deng AI, and Lianshi, and Cai Wenji
I swear to god they specifically made these cuts to fuck with me.

>>529249165
Very unlikely. As I mentioned before, there are still Warriors Orochi characters we haven't gotten (pic related), alongside a number of other characters that are series staples that have already been listed above me.

>>529250619
This is a Jin board, anon.

>>529251252
Neat copium.

>>529251626
Jin is just Wei for chronic hipsters

>>529252663
You're not welcome on this Jin board autist

>>529250619
heh

>>529242201
But what about the planned foursome

>>529252663
Incorrect. Wei was an evil illegitimate regime that attempted to usurp Han, whereas Jin was the legitimate successor of Han. The correct succession line was Han in Shu as an extension of Han passing the mandate to Jin, with Liu Shan surrendering the Mandate of Heaven to Emperor Wen in recognition of the Emperor's glorious benevolence and virtue.

>>528950748
>>528950929
only issue i had with PW3 was somehow related to a codec pack i had installed, once i figured taht out o removed it and it ran fine
PW3 has a more solid roster imo but no idea how a non fan would feel about it
PW4 has better quality of life changes but less "content"
supposedly there's also another DLC on the way but last i heard about it was the survey they sent out sometime in february
anyone got an update on that?

>>529277116
PW4 isn't even scheduled to appear at Bamco's summer showcase which they just announced. So, they aren't really in a hurry to show stuff to us. Maybe at gamescom, or One Piece day.
PW4 has more content than PW3 as of the Koby and Roger packs' extra logs by the way.
Just need them to add an Egghead map with the next-gen characters because damn.

>>529262739
Still on, it'll be their parting gift

>>529272623
Whatever makes you sleep better at night

>>529250619
RESULTS INCONCLUSIVE

Do any of the Nobunaga's Ambition games have good/interesting Tea Ceremony/culture-based mechanics? Just finished the Hyouge Mono manga (enjoyed it although it was hard for me to keep track of all the characters towards the end, can definitely see why it was considered infamously hard to translate at the time too. Was cool seeing such different interpretations of characters I've seen in SW and focus on things from the era not really focused on in SW) and wanna play something involving it now
I'm aware that Sen no Rikyu is a secret character in Kessen 3 (but only in the Jap and Euro versions of the game?)

>>529250619
Dong thread

>>529304913
At least we can all agree Shu is a clown show

>>529224997
I wouldn't know but according to youtube comments, the game basically lags all the time on Switch.

>>529214358
GTX 760 and GTX 1080 Ti respectively.
My laptop uses Radeon 780M igpu which is about GTX 970 equivalent.

>>529214358
GTX 750 Ti and GTX 1080 Ti respectively.
My laptop uses Radeon 780M igpu which is about GTX 970 equivalent.

Is it just Origins or is it a franchise thing to have all one-on-one interactions feel super gay? I'm not being paranoid am I? This shit sounds really gay. Even the direction of the scenes....

>>529327618
The dev team is filled with fujoshii which was reflected as early as DW6 where characters were redesigned to be as zesty as possible.
This time around the director was neglected to oversee the writing department so the fujo get full creative control.

>>529327618
>I'm not being paranoid am I?
No, it was so noticeable that the producer was directly questioned about BL in an interview

Page 10, with might that rivals all under heaven...

From what I understand, Saika is one of the strongest characters in the game. And after having tried him out, I can understand why. He has arguably the best hyper attacks of all SW characters. His regular charge attacks are no joke either.

>>529327618
It's sorts counter balanced by the female bond events coming across as pretty thirsty as well. Hell you arguably cockblock Lu Bu from getting with Diaochan and he barely cares.

>>529310173
Lord of Darkness is the only one I remember where they were a major mechanic, and even then it wasn't really that deep.

My favorite Zhao Yun design

>>529356535
Yeah, that's true, but there are far, far, fewer females in the game because of the source material so those feel way less distracting. I mean of the 2 females in the game so far, one shouldn't even be able to talk the first time you encounter her and is like under 10 for most of the game (Sun Ren) and the other technically never existed (Diaochan). It's like they were so desperate to try to balance it out that they even turned a lot of the guys into females. I mean the doctor kid that's your companion? I was a good 10h in before I realized that was a dude because an NPC used "he" to refer to him.

I understand that it's a japanese anime culture thing to have dudes look super effeminate but they seem to really go out of their way to make as many of the heroes look as much like girls as they can.

I guess my question is : who is this for? Who is the demographic of people who are really into Rot3K and ALSO into heavily homoerotic fanfics? Don't answer that.

>>529366918
>who is this for?

>>529369629
anon....Am I supposed to understand any of that?

>>529370097
It's a Famitsu questionnaire for DW9 and over 70% of the 3k responses were from women. Dynasty Warriors is for girls

the amount of updates Abyss is getting now with more to be shown, while origins has gotten nothing is low-key fucking me off. People paid a lot of money for origins at launch, yet it doesn't even have basic shit like a proper free mode menu.

>>529366918
>I guess my question is : who is this for? Who is the demographic of people who are really into Rot3K and ALSO into heavily homoerotic fanfics? Don't answer that.
>>529370261
> Dynasty Warriors is for girls

Apparently, the same is true for Sengoku Basara.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dynastywarriors/comments/14kn8w3/a_kind_of_indepth_look_on_why_sengoku_basara_is/
There's just something about musou games that attract women.

>>529366090
It's the coolest one. Origins is second place for me, the silver armor just looks great

https://x.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1939615142339334484

Abyss chads...

>>529374393
Very nice

>>529370261
>>529371475
well fuck me then, I guess it makes sense then. I guess they also make the few women super thirsty to throw a bone at the few male players? I can't imagine the female playerbase would be to keen on having beautiful girls all over their hot twink MC's dick...

>>529374393
Bye bye originskeks, the rest of us are leaving for greener pastures

>>529374923
It's no different from Yakuza games. Those are also very popular among women.
Women just like stories about the friendships, conflicts, brotherhood and just general relationships between handsome young men. They can basically fill the gaps with romance and their sexual fantasies.

>>529375331
>Yakuza games. Those are also very popular among women.
Really? Those are some of the most masculine games to come out of the east lol

>>529375450
You really need to look up how fujos operate and what makes them wet.

they better be working on a large expansion for origins with multiple hypothetical routes for lu bu, yellow turbans and dong zhuo, a Free Mode + using companions for whole battles and more weapon types.

It makes no sense that they're doing so much for Abyss and nothing for Origins despite it selling over a million copies in its release month at AAA pricing.

I know that Hyrule Warriors is considered a great Warriors game that isn't Dynasty/Samurai Warriors.
But what about the other ones like Fire Emblem, Arslan, Berserk, Dragon Quest, etc., etc?
Which of those ones are good?

>>529381694
Three Hopes
One Piece PW3 and PW4

>>529377597
Wait for DW's 25th anniversary as well as TGS

>>529377597
It makes sense that Origins weapons (most exhaustive movesets in musou to date), and whole expansions with new voicelines and whatnot, would take longer to put out stuff than Recycling: the game.

>>529377597
The only new content for abyss that would require any effort is what two atelier movesets? the rest can be done by one guy in his free time.

>>529386294
>Origins weapons (most exhaustive movesets in musou to date)
????? wait you're telling me that the other games have even smaller movesets?

Ayane overview
>Her Unique Strategy "Mugen Tenshin Style" increases the attack power of heroes possessing the "Speed" emblem by 50%. This ability serves as a core asset when building a ninja-themed team.
>Ayane's Player Hero Trait:
>Increases her attack power by 7% for each "Shinobi" emblem she has. Ryu Hayabusa has three "Shinobi" emblems of his own, so if you form a bond with him, your attack power increases by 21%!
>Additionally, by using Transcendence on Ayane, she gains the "Grace" emblem and a trait that restores health for every 50 enemies defeated.

https://x.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1939609861450617106

Despite my initial negativity towards Gauntlet Mode, I've actually come to really like it.
I still don't like the removal of switch combos.
But the mode is still engaging as a way to learn how to play every character independently by using their individual toolkits to the fullest, especially since the upper ceiling of difficulty in gauntlet mode is far higher than any story or DLC maps, so you really have to know how best to use your character.
You also really have to make use of parries to pacify crowds, particularly if they have that scary purple aura that lead even generic peons to 1-2 shot you.
Not to mention you passively get like 200K money and a ton of orbs just by playing a single map for half an hour, alongside materials for the best weapons in the game.

>>529381694
I'm mixed on both FEW games
FEW1 feels like a lesser HW1 and I think the weapon triangle is so strong that it feels like a monkey paw wish granted to the people that want more and more control over more characters in musou, you spend so much time just swapping to the menu to order people around so they don't walk into a disadvantaged fight and get instagibbed that you never get into a groove with the actual gameplay
Three Hopes is better about this element but I find both the story and the gameplay for every route falls off in the second half, just tons of filler battles trudging to the end. It probably has the best implementation of clones I've seen in musou though, universal character traits that can actually change how you play two characters even if they have the same class

>>528407245 (OP)
I feel like I must have misinterpreted something or done something wrong. I'm playing Dynasty Warriors Origins and all the bonds seem to be romances? Is there a way to keep it platonic?

>>529418980
It’s all platonic don’t worry

>>529387118
huh? Dumbfuck

>another month until 25th DW bday

It feels so long away... bet they don't even have substancial origins update for it anyway but Abyss will get another 10 characters and some new game mode.

Maybe they will announce Origins Part 2 is in the works, which would be nice at least.

>>529429930
Does it have Sima Yi? No? We do not care then

>>529432897
Anything after Chibi would assuredly have Sima Yi

>>529412894
>and I think the weapon triangle is so strong that it feels like a monkey paw wish granted to the people that want more and more control over more characters in musou, you spend so much time just swapping to the menu to order people around so they don't walk into a disadvantaged fight and get instagibbed that you never get into a groove with the actual gameplay

Sounds like a much worse version of DW8's weapon affinity system.

Here's your DW Origins new "content", bro!

https://x.com/mojhonJP/status/1935999738194825717

>>529451210
Affinity was all on-screen combat pertaining to you, the weapon triangle affected everything and it was suicide to go into a disadvantaged fight, so you'd have to constantly order your other characters around to stop them from charging to their deaths. I don't get the urge for people that want to control 4 characters or even everyone on the map outside of Empires, musou isn't fun to me when half of every battle is just going into and out of the menu

In Origins, how does the game calculate EXP gain for the weapons you didn't use? Is it just a small percentage of whatever your main weapon got?

Is there a reason why Imagawa Yoshimoto is almost always depicted as a flamboyant idiot?

>>529478878
Other than SW5, his only real role is to get dunked on by Nobunaga.

Bump

>>529493560
Does anyone have like a YouTube link to that BAAAOO sound effect without anything else?

>>529432897
No one cares about Sima Yi lil bro

>>529432897
Origins Pt. 2 will go up to Wuzhang Plains, so I'd assume yes it will have Sima Yi.

Is DW6 worth a go? I only ever here about the renbu system, but how's the battle sim compared to 3 - 5 & 7 - 8?

I hated how objective focused 7 & 8 were, the maps were basically linear in how they play out with objectives being thrown at you every 30 seconds and nothing happens unless the player goes deal with it. Origins is a bit better, but still misses some battle sim stuff from the early games like individual officer morale (courage is too static, it's not comparable), officer morale raising and lowering based on X number of troops dying, officers having fininte troop counts, lieutenants fighting under officers, small random factor to officer starting morale etc. 4 also had a kind of hidden relationship system between officers designed to make battles play out differently, but not sure exactly how it worked.

Rachel showcase:

https://x.com/musou_abyss/status/1939972256245088743

Unlocked Traversal Levels are now universal
https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1940010087470571958

Ah shit, I had no idea /eagg/ was back, guess I should have guessed with Origins and Abyss dropping that it would return.
>>529482297
Nioh 2 did him some justice too, helps that he has the same VA as Frieza.

>>529512828
>back
We've been dead prematurely like 3 times.

>>529512828
it's on the brink of death multiple times a day, and now OriginBros are getting jimmy rustled by AbyssWalkers getting constant free updates for their game while origins gets nothing.

>>529514039
To be fair if your general doesn't have one of these elements
>anime girls to lust over
>gacha to spam nonstop posts about
>schizoposters having constant meltdowns
It's on the brink of death multiple times a day, that's how modern /vg/ is

>>529514039
What are you talking about? you keep making these posts alluding to some rivalry that doesn't exist

>>529508795
About time

Yo, where da Wu bitches at?

>>529533606
you have to wu them first

>>529508795
Took them long enough. People have been asking for this since like day one.

>>529499329
It's worth at least trying. The renbu system sucks but the reason it's been getting more positivity recently is because of the battlefields.

>>529533606
Across the river

>>529550180
The bitches won

>>529496971
projecting cuck

>>529381694
Berserk one feels really low effort and rushed
You didn't mention it but the Persona 5 one is maybe their most high effort spinoff so far, also probably wouldn't appeal to anyone who doesn't already like Persona 5 though

Is there like any period accounts of there being any province/commandery from the Han empire that produced the most beautiful women?

>>529562295
that's rich coming from the guy who cares about the least interesting guy from the whole period whose only accomplishment was outliving all the other more talented and interesting figures by essentially being a turbojew

>>529564609
we're not talking about ieyASSu here blud

>>529563418
I don't even consider P5S a proper musou game. It uses the same combat style but otherwise it's an ARPG. I'd be shocked if we didn't see another one since it's one of the best selling Persona games period, not even just for their spinoffs.

>>529564920
they are literally the same person thoughever

>>529566379
you sound like you stan someone who got owned by based sima yi. it's been 1800 years, now let it go

>>529567443
owned by Sima Yi? Literally who did he even own? Nigga didn't do shit his whole life. I don't even know why he's regarded has some sort of brilliant mind from the time. Name me a single accomplishment of his that involved direct competition with anyone noteworthy

>>529569016
t. zhuge liang

>>529569770
Zhuge Liang is cringe but he at least was doing stuff. You can keep going through all the strawmen though, the people I found the most interesting were long dead by the time Sima even showed up

>>529533606
>country bumpkins

I'll need at least 50 of these in the game by December, hurry it up Omega Force.

>>529353826
Are Hyper attacks just chains that start with "Y/Triangle"?

>>529583116
Yes. Those are Hyper Attacks. Specifically for Samurai Warriors characters, like Saika Magoichi, Sanada Yukimura and so on.
The Dynasty Warriors characters don't have any Hyper Attacks.

>>529580141
What's Zhuge Liang have to do with it?

It's up to Chinese modders to give us new Origins content now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqwvHo_JibU

>>529564609
>outliving all the other more talented and interesting figures
That's the ideal plan

>>529621208
Oh I'm not hating, the guy didn't do shit and manahed to get his bloodline on the throne. That's about as bug as you can win with as little talent as possible. Great for him, it's just not very interesting for anyone else.

>>529632230

>>529602331
I don't care for model swaps. Have modders done anything interesting in terms of modding the actual battles (like making the allies side not tiny) or simulation tweaking?

>>529633043
>modding the actual battles
Anon that's what the video is showing

>>529633616
whats different apart from the model swap for MC and character swaps for officers? troop counts and the scripted officer movements look the same as the original stage to me, just with the original officers swapped with other officers.

>>529633982
Yeah that one is mostly showing the officer swaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_w1wSVcDnU
This one shows new behaviors with Yuan Shao's entire force advancing at Guan Du. There are more videos showing tweaks to morale and individual courage.

>>529635103
Thats more like it. There's "army advance" mods going back to the ps2 days that make all the officers advance instead of waiting for scripted events, I wonder if that modded guan du stage is achieved by doing the same thing or if its achieved in a different way. Would be kinda funny if the ps2 code is still there in some way as late as origins

>>529622652
His track record under Wei isn't exactly "not doing shit" (though struggling against Zhuge Liang despite having vastly more resources at your disposal isn't the best look) and I think you're underselling how closely fought his struggle against Cao Shuang was as well how adept at politics you'd need to be to take over a whole state without causing all that much instability.

>it's another "Liu Bei is useless" episode
Fucking retards. If the objective is 'no allies can fall', why the fuck are you splitting up? I never had these issues saving Cao Cao, and the Sun patriarchs have the decency to have scripted deaths.

>>529637450
All I read there is that he was a massive jew who can worm his way into a position someone else earned by their merits

>>529641538
First stage of chapter 5?

>>529564920
I am here to dispel the slander that Ieyasu is just a fat fuck that ate the cake because everyone else died before him

>had the foresight and balls to immediately goes independent following Okehazama instead of continuing sucking up to the Imagawa
>put down rebellions both from his own retainers and the Ikko-Ikki sect in the area following his independence
>at Anegawa, was the one ensuring victory for the Oda-Tokugawa alliance while the Oda was getting their shit pushed by the Azai
>had the determination to execute his own heir (and the wife that he probably was on bad terms with anyway) to ensure the survival of his clan
>absolutely could have let the Takeda passed by without a fight, ensuring that his clan receives no loss but still decided to pursues the Takeda anyway, which in hindsight, was an absolutely retarded move, but still...
>following Nagashino, was one of the main players force that help Nobunaga putting the Takeda out of their misery
>was objectively the winner out of the Komaki-Nagakute against Hideyoshi, and only came out of the conflict empty handed because Nobukatsu requested for a truce behind his back
>had the foresight and balls to abandon his home province to settle in and develop Kanto region, which both make Hideyoshi not being wary of his ambition as well as consolidating the base for the Tokugawa Shogunate later
>following Hideyoshi's failed Korean campaign and late life madness, was charismatic enough to convince half of the country to follow him and overthrow the Toyotomi. Which, to be fair, a lot of people only followed Ieyasu because they hated Mitsunari's guts, but still...
>had the foresight to retire his position as Daimyo to his son, instead of waiting until his death like most other Shoguns do
>managed to hang on to life long enough to put an end to the Toyotomi once and for all and only die one year after

>>529654432
woah that was really insightful bro (I didn't read)

>>529651721
Yeah. I got through it by taking the left path, and using the halberd to smash everything quickly.

>>529654432
>>had the foresight to retire his position as Daimyo to his son, instead of waiting until his death like most other Shoguns do
This was normal I'm pretty sure, Hideyoshi couldn't do this because he didn't have an old enough heir lol
In a supposed letter from Akechi Mitsuhude, he talks about retiring officially and letting his son and someone from the Hosokawa clan lead the country while he works behind the scenes, like how Ieyasu did after he put in son in power. Nobunaga wanted to do something similar with his son too.

>>529654432
He’s a pudgy fat fuck who ate Nobunaga and Hideyoshi

>>529659970
The point is that Ieyasu did it almost immediately after seizing power because he saw his peers failing to do so before.

>>529661957
who do know that the other dudes had to actually build a power base from the ground up both administratively and militarily to be able to beat much larger competing powers and they both were incredibly active and instrumental to those goals often putting their own bodies in the frontlines to accomplish said goals, right? What did fatman do again?

Outlasting your rivals and enemies is a legitimate achievement because of how many idiots blew it from positions of power. The Wei dynasty could have easily fallen into the same state of corruption and paralyzing infighting as Wu did if the Sima clan didn't right the ship.

>we fight Ziluan in Origins pt. 2 as our CAW
>he randomly pulls different weapons out his ass just like we could while playing as him in part 1

This prediction will come true in early 2028 when Part 2 releases as an early cross-gen title for the next consoles & PC.

>>529659970
I think Ieyasu was pragmatic, just that this point wasn't anything special. Mitsuhide and Nobunaga were killed before they could consolidate their rule over the land before handing control over to their successors, and Hideyoshi had all sorts of issues even getting an heir so the option wasn't on the table for him

>>529677694
Could totally be a Nioh 2 situation again, they let you play as a CAW and later in the game you fight the protag from the first game where they expect you to cum and shit yourself from excitement or whatever

>>529680061
yeah that's whats gonna happen I think. It's just a question of, is he an enemy that has vanished and became jaded, or is he a friend who tests us in a passing-of-the-torch fight. I'm leaning towards the latter.

>>529681845
I doubt they'll characterize him much, probably have him always pick an opposing kingdom to whichever you choose

Dian Wei.

>>529677694
I could see it happening. Bailuan already has the same parry as the player

>>529183559
What do you mean it never happened it happened in Dynasty Warriors 9 went 5 separate armies was supposed to attack them for five separate directions but they dealt with all the armies.

>>529518565
>anime girls to lust over
They need to re-add Lingqi, Dong Bai, and the Qiaos so that we might survive

>>529581143
Kasumibros...

My wife is so damn beautiful. She's here to grace /eagg/ with her presence and keep it alive.

>>529693925
So Bailuan v2?

>>529744531
She looks like she weighs 60 pounds in this pose and outfit

>>529744531
Thank you anon's wife

>>529744531
sir, I'm sorry to inform you of this, but your wife thinks about another man 24/7

WEW

>>529765809
Those ten people working on Abyss must have really love the game.

Alive

Abyss is the future of the series!

Liu Bei...my hero....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UhSsPhIpqM

Nioh 3 being a prequel that has the Takeda clan as the main villains/antagonists means that we'll very likely see (and maybe even fight) a younger Yukimura.

>>529789338
Nah... A lot the signs hint that time travel is involved (yet again) so anything goes, really. Plus, despite what SW would want you to believe, Yukimura has barely anything to do with the Takeda, he was barely 6 when Shingen died.

>>529793859
Not the first time Koei had done it, but I like how Yukimura's story in SW1 starts a few years before he was even born.

>>529093593
So, assuming I've completed the historical routes with zero Fate Altered events:
>Replay Chapter 1 for Zhang Jiao's bond events
>Skip ahead to Shu's Changban to defeat Cao Cao and trigger the hypothetical, then play through to the end
>Rewind to the start of Wu's Chapter 3 to save Sun Jian, then continue on to save Sun Ce and get the hypothetical ending
>Rewind to the start of Wei's Chapter 5, save Guo Jia, get the 'Guo Jia but Dian Wei dead' cutscene, THEN rewind to Escape from Wan Castle and save both Dian Wei and Guo Jia

>>529789338
Doubt the Takeda are the main villains, more likely just one chapter focuses on them.

WO4 Susanoo being broken as fuck on a horse is such a weird design choice. Susanoo having a mobile version of his C4 sorta just turns him into low key invulnerable due to how fast he is and how much 360 range the rainstorm has

>>529778741
Until tomorrow.

>>529822194
Cope

how you holding up saars?

>>529796267
Yeah that's about right. For Zhang Jiao, he appears after the Battle of Guangyang, and he'll eventually give you training you need to do to progress his bond. Remain in chapter 1 but go to the story select and replay whatever battles you want to finish them. After you finish his second set of trainings you can skip to the start of chapter 2 and he should be in the hidden village. You can skip ahead a few times during Wu's altered fate too, after you save Sun Jian just go straight to the altered fate reset point at the beginning of chapter 4

>>529789338
he’s got aids

I want sexy 3D art models of Warriors people who are female doing sexy stuff,

>>529848318
same

Playing DW7XL for the first time made me realize that my biggest problem with DW8XL isn't the weapon switching (though it feels like shit and is clunky).
Nor is it the terrible juggle physics that makes aerial combos often inconsistent (because it's also a problem in DW7XL as well).
It's the goddamn affinity system and the design implications of it.
A game with a rock-paper-scissors affinity system like in DW8XL means that officers have to be designed in such a way to push players to use that system. It leads to the following:
1. It means the shitty hyper armor they get when you're in negative affinity.
2. It means they attempt to block your attacks more than in any other DW/SW game I've ever played (as a way to force you to use the R1 switch attacks to easily break their guard).
3. It means that the game needs to find a way to reward you for getting positive affinity (which is by giving you Storm Rush as your biggest non-meter-based source of damage when you break their blue shields).
4. It means often deliberately putting yourself in negative affinity to passively fish for those blue switch counter attacks as a way to get damage and combos started so that you don't waste time hitting an officer that's constantly blocking.
I've only played through like 2 hours of the Wu story mode campaign missions in DW7XL, and I'm already having way more fun than I've ever had in DW8XL, simply because of the lack of an affinity system that means that the aforementioned problems I listed are no longer an issue.

Does Musou Orochi Z make Warriors Orochi 2 obsolete? From what I understand, Musou Orochi Z is basically Warriors Orochi 2 but with way more content. The only problem seems to be that Musou Orochi Z is only in Japanese.

>>529858037
IIRC, English releases of WO2 on PSP have the new levels added for MOZ, but they don't have WO1 built into it like MOZ.

>>529860949
Are the PSP versions of these games capped at 30fps like the PSP versions of Armored Core games (such as Armored Core 3 on PSP being capped at 30fps versus 60fps on the PS2 version)? If not, then I don't mind trying out the PSP versions emulated on PPSSPP.

>>529857493
The affinity system always felt like a bandaid designed to justify weapon switching. The reason weapon switching was added in DW7 was to make up for the fact that the game wasn't going to have as many weapons as there were characters. When DW8 fixed this by having enough weapons for all the characters, that meant weapon switching had very little reason to still exist, hence the affinity system was added to still justify its inclusion.

>>529862207
Can't recall the frame rate, but there is a big drop in graphical detail that can't be fixed via upscaling. Most obvious is Cao Pi holding up a closed fist in his idle pose.

>>529863358
Yeah, the affinity system in 8 pretty much compels you to use two of the same weapon but with different affinities, instead of actually mixing and matching like you would in 7 or Strikeforce.

>>529863358
Strangely enough, it's the same director. I really hope this affinity system was just a half-assed bandaid solution like you mentioned instead of something he originally intended for DW7. Because it's such a horrendously bad idea.

Patch notes are massive.
The abyss grows.

Combat feels so much faster in Origins when you unlock Disc of Huanglong.

>>529870684
>tfw I'm at work and won't be able to play until like 8-9 hours from now when I get home
Hopefully traffic isn't too awful tonight. I know it's gonna be awful because traffic is awful everyday in my country, but I hope today will miraculously be one of those days when traffic is less awful.
I want to play Ryu and Momiji so badly.

HOT DAMN

>new hyrule warriors
>it's more Breathslop
What's next for the spinoffs?

>>529875614
I can see them doing DQ again. It's almost time to start the marketing for DQ12 anyway.

>>529875614
Warcraft if they ever get their heads out of their asses and stop making failed mobage

>>529875614

>>529882831
A Mortal Kombat warriors game would unironically be kino. It and other spin-off games like it would be precisely what the franchise needs to help it get out of its current rut.

>>529876409
A WC3 adaptation would be kino, easy to slot in like 4 heroes per faction too for a reasonable roster of 16 for a new spinoff

>Khazan the First Berserker gets a free update that adds a female version of the character

Why can't DWO get a female Ziluan? Hell, just give the female version the same outfit and make her face girly with a long ponytail. And have some employees record some vocal grunts and screams for battles. How hard is that to do?

>>529887468
Khazan only got that update because it flopped and they're trying to get the gooner audience that helped stellar blade.

>>529887468
>give the female version the same outfit and make her face girly with a long ponytai
Zhuhe is already in the game, anon. Just swap her and Ziluan if you pick FeMC at the start.

Please....I need time to go faster so that I can go home and play this damn game.

Wake me up when they add Lianshi and Ma Dai.

>got Mature Yukimura weapon when testing Yumia
I won

Tadakatsu has a Flower of War emblem now?

>>529903904
He always has it IIRC.

first run with the new patch. went from only being able to kill enemies with musou attacks to clearing enemies faster than they can spawn. bosses still deal a fuckton of damage, i almost lost to gouma phase 2 as the spinny lasers deal like 140 damage per hit.
also fyi if you complete a challenge at a high level, you get all the rewards from the previous levels

>>529906526
How do you feel about the state of T6 now? From what I understand, most people didn't like T6 when it first came out. Are characters now properly balanced to deal with T6?

>>529910030
it's much better now, i can kill bosses in 2-3 barrier cycles instead of 20. boss fights aren't some hour-long test of endurance anymore. the generic soldiers are also much easier to kill so the normal stages go by a lot faster. i think they probably balanced the old T6 around the transcendence system but transcendence wasn't ready to ship with the patch.
also, they added ultrawide support

>>529914732
Have they changed how that extra boss barrier works on T6 to make it less frustrating?

>>529915137
it takes much more damage from summons now. it's not very different from a white barrier now. i think they also reduced boss health a lot so you don't need to break the barriers as much

>>529915320
Nice. These bosses don't have anywhere near enough moves/patterns to keep them engaging for more than 2 cycles.

Goddamn that patch note is the longest I've ever seen in my entire gaming life.

Damn, Ryu is really fucking broken.

If they make a Dynasty Warriors 10 eventually who might be good female character to add to Shu people or Wei people or Jin people ? I'm not going to say Wu because that would be the Tigers wife or the jungle people because that would be the king and the demigod daughter which would give Guan Suo to girlfriends but some of these canon female love interest or composite characters on multiple real females as it is.

>>529938861
Accurate to how he is in WO3.

I think Abyss just needs more maps per region, or maybe even randomized maps, to be the best vampire survivor clone out there.

Hello /eagg/, Tomohiko Sho here!

I wanted to personnally apologize for the lack of news regarding future updates to Dynasty Warriors Origins. But I am now ready to make an announcement.

A new paid expansion will release this fall, modeled after the fan-favorite Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate model which you all loved and thanked me for. In this expansion, control Ziluan, break dozens of pots, and stand in front of anchors waiting for them to get destroyed by the palm of your hand! Yes, you could say that Infinity mode was a bit of a test run for this ambitious and modern expansion.

What's that? You're asking me for what now? Free mode? Other playable characters? More movesets?...

Haha. Well, this is it for now! Please look forward to more announcements sometime in the next decade!
Happy 25th anniversary of Dynasty Warriors to you, /eagg/!

Damn they split the costumes into two $12 packs. Can you get them with karma in game?

>>529957302
Eh, the best one is the formal ninja pack anyway.

>>529954528
Thank you Sho-P!

>>529957302
>mfw just spent 56 bucks for 4 abyss costume packs

>>529954528
Sounds good

Tenji?

If you buy the costumes, does it automatically unlock the unit?

>>529975278
Yes

>>529858037
If you know chinese/japanese, yes.
Otherwise no
Remember to disable frame skip if you're on PC. Omega Force is incapable of implementing that shit properly.

>>529975278
It lets you play with them, yes. However you'll still have to spend embers to unlock them on the tree, in order to have them as allies during a run

This dude is crazy. He's got tons of pre-current patch runs of T6 with insanely fast clears.
Like this one of him clearing T6 with Kenshin in 31 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAFbhNbVbEw

>>529944552
Ryu is probably the most powerful character canonically across all of Koei Tecmo's IPs.

You know what Omega Force should do for their next Warriors game? Borrow that "create a structure" shit from Wild Hearts. Use it to allow players to create their own ramps, ladders and platforms in battlefields to provide them with new pathways and shortcuts. You know, just like in real-life battles of armies setting up ladders to get over walls and shit. Of course, add in risk versus reward. Make it so that enemies can steal these ramps and use them against you.
This would make Omega Force's often maze-like battlefield designs so much less frustrating while adding extra strategic elements to the gameplay.

>>529991821
They could bring back different base types and tie structure materials to supply bases or something to distinguish them

>Valiant Steed Blitz can interrupt enemy officer red attacks
Holy shit. Halberd was already OP, but this is just ridiculous. I can empty Xiapi Lu Bu's fortitude in one combo if I have enough Bravery.

>>529875614
Sonic.

>>530003708

>install RPCS3 to try out DW Strikeforce
>the game runs smoothly
>but for some reason no music plays
I can get combat sounds and every other sound in the game, but the music simply does not play.

>>530008917
Try this. I was having the same issue with DW6 and this fixed it

Hayabusa's C3 is ridiculous

>>530009634
HOLY FUCK, it worked. Thank you!
I would never have guessed that you needed to CHANGE THE FUCKING CPU SETTINGS to deal with an AUDIO problem. Goddamn, software can be so confusing sometimes. Like again how does that even make sense? A CPU setting to make sure MUSIC works?

>>530009634
>>530012785
Welp. Now the game is suddenly slowing down like crazy. Thanks anyways.

>>530013296
Damn, sorry anon. You can try messing with different SPU Decoders because I think the sound issue is only linked to the PPU Decoder, but I don't have anything else. I just looked up Xenia gameplay and it seems the music cuts out there too.

>>530001556
I think Twin Tiger Blast with the wheels can too

>>530019993
OK, you want to know what's weird?
So I installed DW Strikeforce on the latest version of RPCS3, which is v0.0.37-18070. And I got that no-music problem.
But then I remembered that about 2 years ago, I played God of War HD on an older version of RPCS3 with zero issues. I combed through my old external hard drives for where I saved that aforementioned older version of RPSCS3. I found it. It's v0.0.32-16682. Pic related.
Just out of curiosity, I tried to see if DW Strikeforce would work right out of the box.
You can see where I'm going with this.
It worked.
It worked flawlessly.
No music problems.
The game ran 60fps.
It baffled me.
So I basically copied every config single setting I had on this older version and tried to have the exact same config setting on the oldest version.
I still suffered the no-music problem and the audio crackles on the new version despite all settings being the same as the older version.
But whatever.
I'm not gonna even try to make sense of any of this. It works flawlessly on the older version, and I'm not gonna complain.

>>530028057
I'd actually emulated DW6 on my old PC and didn't remember running into this problem back then, but I just assumed I'd forgotten about it. Guess the newer versions actually are busted

>>530028057
I have had weird regression issues with RPCS3 as well. Games that ran flawlessly a year or two ago are buggy as shit today.

>>529987012
untrue.

>>529954528
/eagg/ is saved

West Asian Genocide General when?

>>530052191
Ongoing

The heavens have forsaken us!

>>530027749
I'll give that a try. Turns out VSB can even interrupt officers in rage mode.

>>530109930
Zhenji!

>>529871910
It makes the Podao unstoppable, you can instantly get to max charge using Fierce Focus for only 2 bravery total

We must hold out

WEIKEKS

I think it's high time we get announcement for SW Origins. SW5 came and went like a wet fart.

>>530140418
SW5 sold well apparently, though it didn't do Origins numbers

This has a lot of cool designs for the historical characters, and the devs work their asses off to improve the barebones game at launch. I hope it gets more buzz.

Tenji...

Wow, when the patch notes said that they changed the animations, I just thought they made them faster or something, but they actually give the attacks brand new effects, like Guan Yu's C2 now conjure up slashes of flame, or Zhao Yun's C6 conjures up flying dragons. What the fuck, I thought this was just Reused Assets: The game? I am very pleasantly surprised.

>>529137428
So after a few days, I can confirm that Tenacious Heart is pretty much compulsory for Lance on UW, but that plus Vengeful Stormquake lets you pull off some real bullshit. I wasn't as good as the player in the video, but I can handle anything that's not time limited on UW. Now I just need to learn Podao, Staff, Gauntlet, and a gameplan for Wheels that isn't just 'spam neutral strong and evade strong, turn into a blender'.

>>530169574
>Podao
Probably the best weapon in the game when you're using Fierce Focus non-stop, that's why it's so broken when you get the Disc of Huanglong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFLEdI2yX8M

>>530141141
Then why didn't it get an expansion like an Xtreme Legends game? Or any kind of DLC updates?
Fucking hell, I hate Koei Tecmo so much. Someone needs to buy Team Ninja and Omega Force from them.

>>530160495
what is this?

>>530168609
You're right that the added animations are new, but they've also been making similar minor adjustments to character movesets since day one. After all, WA doesn't have manual jumping or R1 moves, so a lot of movesets that involved jumping and R1 moves had to be adjusted to fit into WA's way of designing moves.

>>530186083
My impression of SW5 was always that it was kind of a lower budgeted title with a younger dev team, so perhaps there wasn't any plans for DLC unless it did gangbuster sales

>>530187917
Can't really verify whether the entire team is younger, but at least the director and the lead game designer are both older veterans:
Director is Jun Kawahara, who also directed Spirit of Sanada and was lead designer for SW4: https://www.mobygames.com/person/405816/jun-kawahara/
Lead designer is Daiki Watanabe, who was also one of the game designers for SOS, SW4 and SW4-II: https://www.mobygames.com/person/710009/daiki-watanabe/
But you're probably right abut the whole:
>so perhaps there wasn't any plans for DLC unless it did gangbuster sales
Just Koei Tecmo being stingy cunts, as always.

>>530187184
Three Kingdoms Mushouden. It's kinda repetitive and the writing is very obviously machine translated so they feel very stiff or sometimes just plain confusing, but I'm having fun somewhat.

The recent Hokuto No Ken anime announcement being revealed as CGslop made me super depressed, but also made me want to try out the HNK musou games.
Are either of the Ken's Rage games on PS3 any good?
Thinking of emulating them on RPCS3.

>>530188427
Going mostly off from this
https://twitter.com/bk2128/status/1364911308747907076

>>530186083
I wonder how well 9's DLC sold, and if it didn't sell well, if the reception to the multiple season passes it had chilled KT on going ham with paid DLC for their in-house games after that. Wolong might have been the same way, since Rise of the Ronin also didn't have any DLC after that game's more middling reception compared to Nioh

>>530201052
9 sold enough to get Koei to release an Empires game 3 years later.

>>530201864
Same deal as 6.

>>530188832
First one was ambitious for Koei at the time, kinda slow (as in actual gameplay speed) and rough around the edges, the potential for it to be fleshed out more was there
The sequel felt very low effort, many more playable characters but the overall game just felt like it was thrown together quickly compared to the first one, probably is a better game overall though even if it doesn't build on the original the way it could've. The Dream Mode or whatever it was called has fun fanservice for fans of the source material

>>530188832
HnK and Berserk musou are probably the lowest effort spinoffs KT ever made.

>>530213251
Gundam Musou 3 didn't even have map designs, every stage was a bunch of boxes connected by narrow corridors

>>530213450
That was just in vogue at the time, with DW8 and SW4 following not long after.

>>530212406
What about the combat itself? What sets the Ken's Rage games apart from other Warriors game in terms of combat?

I spent $24 for my wife.

>>530217283
Was it worth it?

.

>>530225554
It was not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmKugOSO55g

>>530168609
Nagamasa is also another one who got a massive change. Before, he just used his usual C5 where he slams into the ground, but now its been swapped for his old C9 where he shoots out tornadoes.

>>530244641

>>530136307
Is there any particular reason why Huang Gai lets Xu Zhu go at Huarong? Maybe it's a oddity of the translation/dubbing, but he's super nice about it, like they became friends offscreen during the five minutes he defected to Cao Cao's forces.

LOL

>>529957302
>>529958568
>>530217283

...so this is why they're smashing out so many Abyss updates while leaving origins for dead, t-thanks guys

>>530277172
Maybe if they let me play as a cute shack girl than a fucking OC twink, then Origins would be getting updates.

>>530277172
The massive update is completely free, and you can barely see the characters in-game due to all the clusterfuck happening all at once. The costume DLCs are definitely just for those who are willing to spend money to support the game.

I really hope we get to play as different officers in DW Origins 2. So many cool designs in DWO that deserve to be brought back.

>>530300364
>Sun Jian for ants
No wonder he got crushed by a rock again.
But yeah, considering most of the famous officers are using the same movesets as the player and companions, it wouldn't take that much to add them to the mission replay mode at the inn. You'd only miss out on club/fan/throwing knives users.

How would you convince Lu Bu to take her daughter's hand in marriage?

>>529564609
>>529569016
>>529646257
Emperor Xuan of Jin was the single greatest man of the era. He was the wisest, most benevolent, most just, and therefore most interesting man, which is why he inherited the mandate from Han and was blessed by Heaven to overthrow the evil Wei. To the south and east he humiliated Sun Quan, to the north he destroyed Gongsun Yuan, and in the center he punished Cao Shuang and slaughtered all the evil Cao clan. Only in the west was he checked by Zhuge Lord Wu into a stalemate due to the lingering blessings of Han, but as Han was waning, it could be said that the glory of Zhuge Lord Wu was passing to Emperor Xuan as if Emperor Xuan was the heir of Zhuge as well as of Han. The only men that could even come close to the glory of Emperor Xuan was his sons Emperors Jing and Wen.

Abyss is amazing, but they overdid some characters. I get it, Ryu Hayabusa is a guest and they want to shill his games, but he is too OP to be enjoyed and he doesn't feel like an Abyss experience

>>530306849
I think they listened to the complaint that high Traversal enemies are too much of damage sponges, but buffed the characters way too much and now you can just melt the bosses HP in minutes.

>mfw Hanzo in the Speed buff Training Hall
>he just fucking zoom around and massacre the place like a mini tornado with his Hyper C6

So which was the better final battle in Origins?
>Cao Cao's Huarong Path
>Cao Cao's hypothetical Chibi
>Sun Quan's Chibi
>Liu Bei's Huarong Path

>>530316738
Wei Huarong Path, no contest

rpcs3 & dw6 crash to desktop when a stage begins, any ideas?

Buffed me to no end that Yoshimoto didn't have the Master Archer emblem before. Glad they fixed it by making him unlock it with Transcendence.

whats next

>give post update Nagamasa Azai a try
>he's ok
>give him transcendence
>he's very nice
Now he is no longer shit like he was before the update. He deals damage. I'm proud of my boy, he's gone so far

>>530214956
First one had a decent combo system but the game felt so sluggish that I didn't really enjoy it personally, I know some people liked it. Has really lame platforming sections in there as well. Also every character has a unique gimmick ability specific to them, Mamiya's was crawling through small holes in walls with the camera zoomed into her ass lol
Sequel was more of a plain old musou game gameplay-wise, albeit a low effort one but it had many more characters playable

>>530326431
Dynasty Warriors Origins 0

BAOOOOOOO

In retrospect, the /eagg/ field trip to visit Cao Cao's grave wasn't the best idea.

>>530381973
I would split off the group and look for Lingqi's.

>Koei making DLC for Nioh games
More....MORE!!!
>Tecmo-Koei monetizing DW 7, 8, and 9 post-launch
MONEY, MOTHERFUCKERS. GIVE US YOUR FUCKING MONEY
>Tecmo-Koei providing post launch support for DW Origins
small indie studio, pls understand

>>530385078
They gave 9
>THREE Season Passes of content
>a F2P Version with weekly rotating characters and option to buy specific ones
>a fucking LEGEND OF GALACTIC HEROES collab
Koei was on fucking crack with DW9 monetization.

>>530385926
They probably went in with the project assuming that having it open world would 100% guarantee it to be a success. I'm glad they got proven wrong.

>>529654432
Nah, you're flat-out wrong. He was a fat fuck who only succeeded thanks to outlasting everyone else. It's precisely how everyone else describes it. And his attitude regarding the Christians that echoed Toyotomi's was not only misplaced, it was downright damaging to the entire country on the whole. His gross overreaction to the Okamoto Daihachi incident set a precedent that would basically solidify Japan's isolationism and plant an insidious root that would grow over the next 200 years with each subsequent shogun Shit that Nobunaga would get flak for historically Tokugawa gets a free pass, all because he managed to worm his way into unifying the country for more than 200 years. He got to his position simply by being the last one to survive, expediting backhanded deals, winning over traitorous generals, and being a merciless, manipulative little womanizer whose ego didn't quite match up with his intelligence.

>>530385078
>>530385926
>>530388602
And they never made playable Astor
gets the noggen joggin

>>530388602
Why do people still cope like this, 9 still sold 730k units in its first year, even 9E did good enough for them to actual report the numbers which they rarely do for empire titles.

Can anyone try DW6 on the latest build of RPCS3 and see if it will load into stages without crashing?

For me the game itself loads fine into menus, can get the pre-battle map screen, but when stages actually load as soon as the short stage intro FMV ends, the game & RPCS3 crash to desktop. tried on different stages, same thing happens.

>>530402189
Assuming you're using the latest version of RPCS3, have you tried earlier versions of RPCS3? I am currently playing DW Strikeforce, and as I have written earlier in this thread, whatever problems I had were gone by simply using an older version of RPCS3.

one of the rewards from the treasure challenge reworks all treasure effects

>>530403828
Wait, I don't understand: Don't Unique Tactics become active anyway as soon as you meet the requirements?
Take pic related.
If I have 4 Toyotomi emblems and 5 Wisdom emblems, the Unique Tactic is active regardless of whether I have Hanbei in my formation or not, right? Or am I wrong here?

Where the FUCK is Ma Dai?

>>530404294
you need to have the character in your formation for the unique tactic to be active
you can test this by putting him in and out of the formation and seeing how if affects your attack percentage in the menus

>>530404653
in the corner watching Ma Chao & Wang Yi

>>530404787
Goddamn it. I've been wasting so much time making sure to activate Unique Tactics that aren't in my current formation.

>>530402492
well fuck, i just tried a version from 6 months ago to test, and it works perfectly now. I've checked the forum & github, seems no one has reported anything related to DW6 having an issue on newer versions

>>530412820
Yeah, like I wrote earlier in the thread, my older version of RPCS3 from like 2 years ago can play DW Strikeforce just fine. But the latest version leads to an issue of no music being able to play.
RPCS3 seems to just be weird like that. Different versions can be like a night and day experience for how well a game works.
Glad it worked, in any case.

>>530398895
>9 still sold 730k units in its first year
How much did it cost to make though? Rhetorical question but still. Previous games were on 2-2.5 year dev cycles while there was a 5 year gap between 8 and 9. Origins also sold 1 million copies in a month for comparison.

/eagg/ has lost the mandate of heaven...

>>530426914
When did we ever have it? January?

>>530300364
I didn't like that they removed his helmet in 6-8 but the longer hair actually looks cool on him, so I didn't really mind it this time

>>530305631
tl;dr

the duels in dw6 are so bad. what kind of game designer thinks giving enemy officers 10X their normal defence stat to turn them into massive damage sponges is fun? And why does the enemy side get to have multiple officers coming in and out of the "duel" whily ally officers standing around at the edge and don't do shit?

>>530454287
It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every single time. What are the odds?

>>528407245 (OP)
DEFEATED

>>528407245 (OP)
Whatever happened to the Pirate Warriors 4 next gen update? I haven't heard anything about it after the trailer.

Predictions for the DW bday?

>Origins DLC?
>Origins Part 2 confirmation?
>an old title like DW5 ported to PC/modern consoles?
>DW 2 - 6 all ported to PC/modern consoles in one bundle?
>lol none of that, here's another Abyss update

>>528407245 (OP)

Why DEFEATED ?

>>530483714
>Origins DLC?
Probably more free skins at best.


>Origins Part 2 confirmation?
lol, lmao even

>an old title like DW5 ported to PC/modern consoles?
>DW 2 - 6 all ported to PC/modern consoles in one bundle?
Sho has been tweeting about making older games being available on modern consoles so a ports are more likely than ever. Though it's hard to know if it's gonna be HD Remaster Bundle or they are just gonna port and sell them separately like how they did with DW7, SW4 or WO3U.

>>530447381
The hairstyles they chose for 6-8 were either shit (like his spiky hair in 6) or just bland (like his plain cuts in 7-8). He should have had head decorations/hats like Liu Bei/Cao Cao, because otherwise there's not enough balance in the composition of his design.
The long hair finally balances it outt.

>>530491114
Because we hit page 11 and died overnight, and we've been straying dangerously close again today

>>530483714
Not expecting much, but some sort of modern port would be nice and not too unlikely like the other anon said

mortal combat challenge reward increases chance of missions
this one's pretty hard, enemies deal double damage and there are no peaches. i recommend mitsuhide + cao cao for healing

>>530493651
He did a poll asking for which specific title people wanted most, so if they do anything it'll be a DW5 port since it won iirc

>>530532290
>DW5
The game where they started making the common mooks AI to do nothing but stare at you?
That's lame

>>530532290
5 would also probably require the least work of the ps2 games since it already has that HD 360 release that was Japan exclusive

not today

>>530549660
They need an old Sima Yi model already.

>>530559549
Next game will probably end at Wuzhang Plains so it won't be any time soon

>>530456158
Plus you get hit back every time you touch the surrounding soldiers

Just got back from the timeline where Yuan Shao won at Guandu, who won Hyperwar II in this one?

>>530570854
He was around before that, he will 100% be an UNPC in Origins Part 2

>>530592186
Yeah but I don't see him getting an older model unless they go beyond that. Guan Yu was basically the only character that actually aged in Origins

>>530594946
I figure we're going to get the aged versions of every character in Origins 2. The proper facial hair for Liu Bei, Cao Cao, Zhuge Liang, etc. hell this is probably the one time they could justify bringing Sun Quan's beard back

>>530594946
Was I imagining it, or does Huang Gai's hair get slightly greyer during Origins?

>>530604926
They definitely will for the characters who were in Origins, I just don't see them making an aged model for all the characters that weren't.
>>530625367
I didn't notice it, but I could've just missed it. I wouldn't be surprised if he got something more given that he never does much after Chibi

>>530466364
This is untrue. The bad guys won when Wei destroyed Han.

Where are the reinforcements?!

Page eight, when are we getting a moveset for the mangrate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqDb8bpUKHU

I honestly thought they forgot about these

Who're your favourite Abyss characters? I like Lu Xun, his transcendence set makes a lot of sense, his attacks are fun and he has a very good musou attack. It's not like those for some other characters where it's not worth pressing outside of emergency, it's 3 quick taps with good damage and far more reach than the animation implies, he's fun.

>>530668178
Outside of OP characters like Mature Yukimura and Ryu? Rachel. The OG is probably Sasuke.

Just purchased One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 and all of the DLC.
Goma nona nom!

>>530663815
I learned recently that Lu Bu theme was originally the theme of DW2's opening edit
https://youtu.be/ViFaZyQ2EhE?si=QbkhNVROH4_jWsuw

>>530684439
It was originally supposed to be the overall series theme I think

>>530668178
Kenshin. Probably the strongest and most fun he's ever been in any Warriors game.

An Origins DLC is said to be hiding behind behind Hu Lao gate

>>530705001
hopefully

I fell for it...

>>530719613
dang

>>530719678
Han?

>>530727797
Who?

>>530719613
I don't get it

>>530559549
The age gimmick is played out. Sacrificing coolness and character quantity is just not worth the added realism.

>>530705001
If you get 99999 kills at Hulao Gate before killing Dong Zhuo you unlock Liao Hua