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>>528350046>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
https://democracy-hub.net/
>MAJOR NEWSMay 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
May 20 Heart of Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg
Jun 10 1.003.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516337874624317890
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA
>LATEST PATCHJun 17 1.003.103 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/580514905803724132
>>528432779 (OP)Bug divers are all bitches
there I said it
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>This game is far too easy. This meta build just ruins everything. What? No, I wont change my loadout. Why would I make myself weaker? Anyway, heres a list of changes how I would gut player power across the board and make everyone weaker.
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>>528432929Classic SEAF, can't even count to three.
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bugs are too easy
bugs have always been too easy
>b-but bots is too easy
I agree bots need to be made utterly brutal too
this shit ain't helldivers
How many weapons have you leveled to max level? The grind feels very steep to me.
>basedjak posting
I smell vodka breath
gnishki gnishki durka churka why aren't you irl helldiving for the liberty of donbass
>>528433309I only level the weapons I like.
>>528433279I'm gonna rape that leandiver ass!!!
>>528432907There is super copium inside your stims anon.
>>5284333098 on max and 4 over lvl20
>>528385005It's a case of them trying to cram too much into one enemy and its design becomes a jack of all trades mess. They need to decide if they want leviathans to be a hazard or an active harasser
>Hazard; multiple on the map at once, create no entry zones beneath them as they bombard everything below. Can be avoided, can be shot down but no real point because they respawn quickly and have 15k health>Harass: Effectively a slow moving sniper, fewer on the map, much lower health. Actively searches for targets. Peek, break wing, reload, peek, hit same spot, down. Not psychic. Target light can be followed back to the source like gunshipsCurrently, they're floating psychic snipers with 15k health and wallhacks.
>>528433309All the ones I wanted to but I'm all out of interesting ones
Once I reach level 20 I just spam in progress eradicate/blitz then immediately return to ship once I hop on the pelican. There isn't really a reason those final 5 levels need to take so god damn long especially since the best upgrades are locked behind it usually
Notice how he doesnt have an argument
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>>528432779 (OP)Meh, after so much squid diving I'm more than fine with casual bug stomping. When are we going to get another bot MO though?
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>>528433728hopefully bot megacities will be in the next MO, maybe even a spectacular automaton invasion of SE. at least that's the hopium I be huffin
My entire sense of self-worth comes from playing hard video games. Please Arrowhead, nerf everything so I feel like I'm not a waste of life.
>>528433043misery indeed loves company
>>528433762STOP BAITING WITH THE HD1 LOBBIES
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>surely there will be a bit MO next
Wow lmao
Hate to say id rather kill illuminate than nids tho. Pred strain is fun, but not 4 days fun.
>>528433309the grind just get steep in the 20-25 range for some fucking reason, like you blink and your gun is lvl 20, and after that it's climbing a cliff wall with only your pinkies
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Honestly only things that need a nerf:
Gas nades
Orbital napalm
Cuck chair
Vitality booster
>>528434056>Pred strain is fun, but not 4 days fun.Pick a different planet? Youre allowed to do that.
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>>528434227RR needs a nerf
>>528434227500 arguably could use a nerf as well, but I dunno how they'd do it.
Maybe just not give 500 an extra charge
That's kinda the one thing that makes it obscenely stronger than every equivalent red.
Bots arent fun unless the swedish nigger (aka swigger) JOEL (hes a hack btw) tells me to dive on bot planets for a MO (its railroaded and impossible to win)
No, I'm not gonna dive on bot planets unless the very entity that I hate tells me to do it.
>>528434315Other bugs are like shooting fish in a barrel
>>528434227MG and Gatling sentries.
>>528434621this, every vanilla bug op is a 90 minute exercise in spawnkills, it's disgusting
>>528433010built for handholding and brushing the hair out of her face before kissing her
>>528434369>Gets one less rocket to tighten it's ammo economy down to 4 rockets per resupply >Does eat tier damage so it needs team work to efficiently kill factory stridersWould that fix it?
Personally I'm glad the community kept alexus and piles from turning the sequel to a fucking 4 player party game into ARMA Jr. Just because you build your game on a jank fucked up engine doesn't mean the game has to be like ARMA
>>528434534>Disguising Learned Helplessness as being cool.
>>528434462Orbital gas mogs it.
>>528434784I think so yes, but you don't even need to nerf it quite down to EAT level, just away from the "any bodyshot will do" mentality that comes with 3200dmg+extras.
>>528434784If it deals the same damage as EAT, then why not just bring EAT instead?
>>528434826>Orbi gasDoesn't kill heavies, wouldn't even consider it same type. Orbi gas is a chaff cc.
>>528433309>mfw I leveled all weapons and i can finally start playing the game.
>>528434805the semi-milsim aspects are what made it unique
it's you that wants to turn the game into something it's not
look at a game called ace combat assault horizon for a reference on success of removing semi milsim aspects even though only assholes ever complained about them
>>528433831Not sure how much better or worse bot Megacities would be than regular bots. Bot Drops are going to have to be completely re-pathed because the skyscrapers would stop them from making direct approaches outside of the big avenues. Fights would be super easy to disengage from since you just have to round a few corners and the only things that could catch up are Troopers and Rocket Striders. Factory Striders probably wouldn't work at all, same with Katyusha Tanks (Bug Megacities were already quite boring since Bile Titans and Bile Spewers became literal non-issues).
But on the flip side, if the only spawners were Bulk Fabricators it would increase the challenge, which would be awesome. My wet dream would be if the bots have their own versions of the Illuminate Overships and Leviathans, just massive constructions built solely for the purpose of invading and laying siege to Megacities. Let us use the Planetary Defense Cannons to shoot down moving targets and the like.
>>528434753holy based
i just want to be loved bros
>>528434227Eruptor
Crossbow
Stims
Stamina booster
Meth stim booster
RR
armor damage mitigation
Resupply
Siege-ready
And that just the tip of the necessary nerf iceberg
The balance is in a good state.
You can play high difficulties any way you want and still beat it if you are good enough.
Our equipment does not need nerfs, the enemies dont need buffs - you have simply gotten good enough at the game to know what to do in every situation imaginable.
You are the 1% that are too good at the game.
Go play for fun, or go find something new to do.
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I posted it again award, and I will fucking keep going until soon becomes now.
>>528435142>round a few cornerssurprise bratty blast
>>528435246Soon we will prowl the fields of battle in armored vehicles, delivering swift JUSTICE to the enemies of man
>>528435246>80 damage, 20 round, 550rpm, ap3 riflewhat for? literally just the aesthetics? stats are useless.
>>528434954Because you're carrying five eats on you at all times. You are basically THE DUDE for anything AT reliant. You also get more rockets everytime you pick up ammo. They'd just be different ways of brining AT up to the player.
>>528435067>look at a game called ace combat assault horizon for a reference on success of removing semi milsim aspects even though only assholes ever complained about them
>>528434227Rockets and eagle strafing run killing fabs. Shouldn't bl
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>>528435596catering to the CoD audience will never stop being the wrong call and this game will die if it keeps doing so
>>528435067>ASSHorizon defenders ittthread really is a den of shit takes
>>528435067What we have now is fine. I don't want any more autism, I don't want to shoot chargers thrice in the face with a RR for it to die, I don't want to have to encircle every single annihilator tank to RR it directly in the back for it to explode or otherwise be invulnerable to damage. I don't want your faggy vision of the game to ever become reality.
>>528435067Please explain to me why an anti-tank rocket launcher wouldn't be effective against a bile titan or a charger in your "semi-milsim", or why a bomb with a 500kg weight should only have an effective blast radius of like 20 meters when that shit would have like at least 5x the radius in real life? After all, milsim games are supposed to imitate reality, right?
>>528435246Did a double take reading the MO. I'm a believer now
>>528435067Uniquely shit.
Everytime they try and cater to milsim fags the game gets worse, case in point leviathans.
>>528436212That's quite the coincidence. It might actually be happening holy shit
The only thing I wanted was for them to fix the Railgun after they turned it into a bb gun post its first nerf. Every complaint I ever posted about the game was done with the sole purpose of pushing my RG buff agenda, even if it ruined Helldivers for the rest of you. Now that the RG is in a good place I have no reason to care, have fun tearing yourselves apart.
>>528436034he means mil-sim (detriment to player only).
>>528435991>>528435246Thats what you people are hyped for? Looks like some low-effort shit you'd see on the Fallout 4 mod Nexus.
>>528435067This. I still don't why people don't play darktide or drg if they don't like the realistic feeling gameplay aspects
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If you're good at the game you are a terminally online asmongoloid wrapped in grease and trash
If you pick medic items you are a sissy and like to suck cocks in a dress
If you pick sniper items you are a sissy and like to suck cocks in a dress
>>528436004lower the difficulty
>>528436034armor works irl, retard
>>528435067if you don't like the lite mil-sim aspects of the game why don't people play darktide or drg
>>528436559Because those games are autistic and don't have the autistic love for gun feel.
Also I've been a big arrow head fan since Magicka, and this games over the top slop speaks to me
>>528433010eagle 1 is blonde and older than me
>>528436732shut up retard
>>528436680You think about sucking cocks in a dress a lot, anon. Is there something you want to tell us?
>>528436825Helldivers 2 is a game about guns too. Do you really think people play to throw the red pokeball?
>>528436732Gotcha, then why having an anti-tank rocket shot on your unarmored parts (the belly/bile sacs) wouldn't kill a bug? Also you conveniently forgot to answer that part about the 500kg bomb, so I'm reminding you of that because it's easy to miss after all.
>>528436825>over the top slopI think Call of Duty might be more your speed.
>play first game
>neat 4 player game where the only "realsim" was the mag system
>devs make second game
>(conveniently) fail to mention they want to go full miltard in any of the marketing
>wonder why people that either played the first or at least heard of the first think this shit is gay as fuck.
>>528436732>irlXir, this is a children's videogame.
>>528436907I play to throw the barrages , toss impacts, and shoot my hmg
>>528433653you can get mission complete even if everyone dies and you leave 75% of the map red and do no subobjectives, so that statistic is a bit misleading
HD2 is so much stronger when it taps into those CS/BF/RB6 vibes. Game should be about aim and tactics, not spam. ADHD niggers should be culled at a cold wall not catered to.
>b-but sweatlord
Get good or get rekt.
>>528437034Reminder the testers are all arma fags
>>528437034I said alot of things okay? That was just pillowtalk, baby, that don't mean nothing.
>>528437034HD2 is very realistic milsim when AH can use that as an excuse to make the players lives more miserable
>>528437172it shouldn't be possible to just bumrush the main objective and ignore everything else on the map
>>528437012Sell me on it then
>>528436680>admits to being bad at the game>tells the people who bring extra stims and supplies to keep him alive to go suck cocksi think you might be a closeted homosexual, anon.
>>528433653name 5 co-op games with a 10k player count minimum where this isn't the case.
>>528437601Sorry, I dont play shitty games.
>>528436680>t. sucks cock in a dress
>game clearly inspired by starship troopers
>movie beloved by the military personnel despite the directors seething
>Some of those military autist decided to make a game that plays into how a contemporary military with some light sci-fi elements would realistically do against giant bugs and terminators(also just generic aliens)
>people are mad thats what the whole game is built around instead of any other horde slop
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>>528437350>CS/BF/RB6>tactics
>>528437376Lmao we really still using the fucking back of the box as an argument
The game already has PvP
Its called playing the fucking game
>>528437726Then why would you recommend it retard.
Are you trying to be stupid?
>>528438072You dont like Helldivers 2 so I thought having edgy high schooler slop that takes itself way too seriously would be more your speed
>instantly heals all wounds, including broken bones, stops all blood loss, reverses the effects of nerve gas, and restores stamina
Hey milsim faggots, wanta explain why this literall senzu bean in a syringe is in your hardcore milsim like game? Yeah didn't think so, sit down and shut up.
>>528437510i think it takes some of the fun out of it, even though some people find it rewarding to be able to do that. there are a few mission types i dont play anymore because the objectives are too easy to wipe out. command bunker would be one of the coolest mission types if you couldnt laser them all from 150 meters away. just make it hellbomb only and give them some variance in elevation akin to orbital cannons so you have to actually push and engage with it.
>>528438281milsim bros.. how do we fix this?
>>528438231When did I say I don't like helldivers?
>>528438464Who the fuck are you
>>528438490I'm me. Who are you?
>>528438281Didn't the original Doom back in the 90s already explain stims away as just being full of "feel good juice" that helps you ignore your injuries until you get some real treatment?
>>528437350>CSclick on heads and pre-aim common angles
>BFbe a vehicle god
>R6 (pre-vegas)jiggle peek the AI and toss flashes
>R6 (post-vegas)prefire with high RoF guns and stay on cams/your drone for 80% of the match
>>528438281N-no stop out reali-
>50/50 armorAIEYEEEEE STOP
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>>528438281>sit down and shut up.based Kengod making milsim chuds kneel
>>528437829>despite the directors seethingwhy do you guys desperately need to believe veerhoven hates that you liked his movie?
>>528438648>have your arm broken in four places>guts hanging out>artery severedOOHHHH MAAAAN THIS FEEL GOOD JUICE IS SOOO GOOOOD I CANT DIE
>>528438281I DONT CARE. WHERE THE FUCK IS MY REP-80, JOEL? YOU SOSTROMMING EATING SON OF A BITCH
>>528438281stims are clearly just super morphine
The milsim-fags run away and cower in fear at the mere mention of the pre 60-day patch 500kg bomb
yeah i think we should ruin this game even more than the swiggers are already doing by making things even MORE like a milsim!!!
what, me playing actual milsims? not a chance, bro, those games are hard and boring, i keep dying all the time, its no fun.
>>528438281Never knew they had barcodes. Let me scan and see what it--
>>528438281>>528438281even milsim games have stupid cure-all medkits.
>>528438281nanomachines son
>>528438851https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5781
Shilling it again because its just so much better. Don't use the 500 tho. The redesigned heavy mod is very important too.
>>528438965because he does
he's the progenitor of media literacy
>>528439090:DDDDD
>>528439005>useless piece of shit that has worse handling than a laser cannonAnd they KEEP NERFING IT FOR SOME FUCKING REASON
>>528435306My problem with these is how hard they are to spot until they start shooting at you, at which point if you're not dead outright, you're being rag-dolled and being shot again before you can either get up or stim.
>>528439227...What did she see?
>>528439005now you're bitching about friendly fire, why are you niggers so intent on ripping the soul out of this game
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>>528439005>have to carry a giant energy devouring gun>vs>a small gun shooting ouchies
>>528439448its basically free heals so of course its gonna be nerfed.
>>528439290holy fucking reddit
>>528439265No they dont
Like... Not at all.
>>528439515>The American Reading comprehension on full fucking display.
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>>528439184>playing actual milsims? not a chance, bro, those games are hard and boring, i keep dying all the time, its no fun.I weep for those that won't know the joy of collective panic when your truck full of infantry gets discovered by an IFV
>>528439537Free heals for anyone but yourself and it's healrate is nowhere near enough to be used like regular stims.
It's primarily used to heal chip-damage.
>>528436212>>528436412They have been using Justice pretty often in MO text recently.
>Justice for the Illuminate atrocities has not been averted—merely postponed. I believe.
>>528439451Honeypot for automatons.
>>528439584why are you usingellipses, are you gen x?
>>528439448>Hey can you make it guided>Hmm don't know, it seems kiiiiiinda OP
>>528439681>I weep for those that won't know the joy of collective panic when your truck full of infantry gets discovered by an IFVFor me it's when your fully loaded Huey starts taking automatic fire from the treeline when it's about to touchdown (Rising Storm 2)
>>528439520>tfw steam is basically reddit only they post rage bait for useless internet points
>>528439846Does it?
I rarely, if ever, see it used.
>>528439936>only they post rage bait for useless internet pointsWait.
Which ones reddit?
I hear there's this game called destiny that has all kinds of magical stuff like healing guns and grenades, it's also got plenty of op guns and all of them can kill every single enemy. Why not give it a try?
>>528439520I will not get snibbed by the levis :^)
>>528439681walking simulator
>>528440031Awesome, I heard it even has a solo campaign, can I play it?
>>528438281It's Permacura's secret recipe, how am I supposed to know? Retard.
>>528440031I'll never understand what people see in that godawful game.
Is there even any content left after all the sunsetting™?
>>528440031I hear there's this game called ARMA that has all kinds of tactical stuff like useless guns and grenades, it's also got plenty of shit mechanics and all of them can be really awful. Why not give it a try?
>>528440031who has wronged you?
>>528439681>>528439934milsim is fun when you want it, not when its slipped in like a date rape drug
https://files.catbox.moe/mbs1md.mp4
>>528440003Quote from the devs.
They really really don't want that thing to be any stronger.
>>528440031Yeah you don't need to care about pesky penetration values etc. Just good old Power Fantasy with OVERPOWERED "Super abilities"
>>528440031Shit anons remember no matter how bad things get there's still people playing destiny
>>528440248Oh I fucking hate these faggots.
Who the fuck is asking for it to be guided? I just want it to not feel like I'm wielding a fucking heavy machine gun. It's a fucking tiny plastic toy-gun.
Yet they keep making it worse. They also reduced the rate of fire.
>>528440545Honestly lotta people after the warrant got guided. Hell I want it guided. Like even if it shot the whole mag it'd be easier than fucking with that shitty aim.
I want a laser or plasma equivalent to the MG or HMG.
Would a full-auto gun that fired Plasma Punisher or Scorcher projectiles be unbalanced?
>>528440531There are "people" who still play it?
>>528440701Personally I'd want it be like the quasar and the airburst has a baby. Like big boom with a big charge time
>>528439448keep nerfing it? it's only been nerfed a single time, and got two buffs previously
>dss on squid planets when numbers are needed for bug kills
>they will go full retard and swap it to bugs when eagle storm activates
unmanaged democracy was a mistake.
>>528440545It's obvious someone on mnk could just whip it out and heal his teammates with no effort if didn't have the sway, the sway is literally there for PC players
>>528440083to quote ragman:
>"I know where I'd rather be."Walking is simply safer
>>528440689Nah fuck off.
Just up the fire-rate and fix the handling.
The issue is having to fight the handling AND the average players' ADHD-tendencies of fidgeting in place.
>>528440874Those were official.
They've stealth-nerfed it with the change to sidearm-handling making the stim-pistol handle the same as a- whatever that heavy pen sidearm is called.
They've also reduced the rate of fire, which they did not include in patchnotes. Chances are they're not aware of it themselves and just accidently overwrote things because these faggots don't have any version-control nor quality control.
>>528440973Yet they don't.
Stim pistol is a rare sight.
Stop pretending it isn't.
What if Managed Democracy meant only based /hdg/ users could vote
>>528441131>They've stealth-nerfed it with the change to sidearm-handlingthat wasn't a stealth nerf. that was announced and explained. that was the one single actual nerf it's gotten.
>>528440031you can't convince that all of this shitposting doesn't stem from the same guy doing it for hours and hours on end
>>528438281should be nerfed to healing only one limb and a fixed amount of health
also the 2 stim limit was perfect, that should just be the d10 standard
>>528441359Then you're lying through your teeth.
It was nerfed prior to that. They nerfed the handling after they buffed the handling following the 60-day-thing.
>>528441296I'm saying if it didn't have that sway, aim gods could easily keep the team alive so that's why it's there
>>528439520why wouldn't you be selfish in this broken niggerfied "community" lmao
>>528440984you can make squad fun without making it a walking simulator from point to point
niggas rly think that aspect is what makes it more realistic as if soldiers go alone without mobility like the fucking ukraine war
>>528441516the handling was never changed until heart of democracy. before that the SPREAD was decreased from 30 to 8. sway and spread aren't the same thing.
>>528441550It's still wildly inaccurate some 15meters out, not to mention the travel-time.
Also you understand the sway is only present during the first 3 seconds of coming to a stop?
Supposed "aim gods" can already keep the team alive, yet they don't. Curious.
>>528441481>2 stim limit>still bring the supply pack and light medic armor
>>528441836supply pack should simply not give stims, ammo and grenades are enough
>>528441131>The issue is having to fight the handling AND the average players' ADHD-tendencies of fidgeting in place.Guided would fix that
>>528441786And the rate of fire?
>>528439396Morphine is just a very strong painkiller, not a stimulant like Pervitin
I think that anon meant that stims just make Helldivers numb to all pain instead of healing anything
>>528441917>ammo and grenades are enoughSupply packs should not give that either, only refill your hunger and thirst meters.
>>528441917Supply pack should be equalized and split between a medic bag strategem and an ammo bag strat. Make it carry double for both and it'll be fine
>>528441917>"I will not be happy until every single stratagem and gun becomes completely non-functional and useless. No I don't play the game, I've never bought it!"
>>528439936Ragebait is code for "You made a statement I cant refute so Im going to attack you instead of the argument"
>>528442150Not the worst solution. Medic backpack has been datamined too from what I know.
Some pubby refused to share his supply pack with me today, so I blew his brains out with Verdcit before boarding the Pelican.
>>528441760A good SL keeps an armored vehicle around but most don't bother since on some servers people get really autistic about vehicle claims and throw hissy fits. Transports are an option but seems kinda wasteful to just use it for personal squad transport when you can fit nearly two whole squads in one.
>>528442237some people like to think they have a point when they actually dont and then get offended when they're called a retard/troon
>>528442419>retard/troonThats another code for "You made a statement I cant refute so Im going to attack you instead of the argument"
>>528442228I want failure to be a realistic outcome rather than just what happens when the whole squad brought mines to a low visibility shithole. So long as winning is easy it's also inconsequential and pointless.
>>528442509not really, retard/troon-kun
>>528442250It'd fix people stacking the backpack as well. While having stims out the ass might make you a god, you still will want ammo
>>528442343I did this once. Some chinese player never once shared his backpack even when he stuck around with everyone. When we called resupply the fucker double dipped so I blew his brains out and kicked him, and took his pack
>>528442510And for you, difficulty and failure is just "making every single piece of equipment completely useless so you can't kill anything", gotcha.
Nerfs will happen, prepare your anus.
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>>528442510And I want failure to be a realistic outcome due to facing overwhelming enemy numbers. Not because I'm firing beanbags instead of bullets because some faggot's idea of a challenge comes from having shit for weapons.
>>528442596Thats a good example of the code being used in real time! Thank you, anon.
>>528442343>pubby frustrates you by waving his thick supply pack around until you snap
>>528442782Leviathan nerfs, right?
>>528442890have sex incel
>>528442782Not openly.
They've been stealth nerfing more and more since the 60 day patch.
Like people aren't even aware vitality booster got nerfed into the ground.
>>528442782I doubt that. They'd rather introduce D11 with buffed enemies at this point.
>>528442972wait wat, explain
>>528442715>so you can't kill anythingUnless you're good. Success is meant to go to the select few, it cannot be distributed evenly.
>>528442852We need both permanent reductions in player power and better offense/defense/health/armor on most enemies. i.e. roll back the disastrous 60 day patch.
>>528442782any nerfs they do to us should come with the leviathan nerfs and buffs to some red strategems to stop a potential melty from the community
>>528442957>calling people incel>admits he rage kills at extractholy troon
>>528443060They halved the effect a couple months ago
>>528442890It was filled to the brim, all 4 packs!! And we were heading for extract, wtf did he even need all of them for??
A supplytroon randomly came up and gave me ammo. So I shot them and dumped their supply pack into deep water.
>>528433431holy shit an actual discord tranny
>>528443065>being good magically makes your weapon deal more damage and get new damage breakpoints
>>528443065Kill yourself.
>>528434151GG always fun with you guys
>>528442782Alexus, I will permit you this one player nerf of your choice. In exchange, you will release the APC and rework the leviathan into a single massive monster that is even more dangerous, takes even more damage to kill but will never respawn.
>>528443223This never happened
>>528443146>Precision, smoke, gas, and EMS strike gets buffSmoke is definitely salted for a buff
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I got all the warbonds I truly wanted, but now I got 1k again and I'm unsure as to what to get. I almost want Truth Enforces cause the shotgun looks neat, but hardly worth an entire warbond for, imo.
I don't expect someone to resupply me just because they have a supply pack. It's their stratagem and they can use it however they want.
BUT, if that meganigger starts eating all the fucking resupplies without topping off the rest of the squad he's 100% getting put down.
>>528443293Quick. Hide the kids.
>>528443342I don't think salted smoke is good for your lungs
>>528443293answer the question magomed
are you hiding in anatolian goat shack?
>>528443429servants of freedom for the dickle and portable hellbomb
>>528443507>esl discord trannysurely it can't get worse
>>528443429servants>ceremony>chemical>flame>law>enforcers
>>528443429Gas grenades will plague your loadout forever if you get that warbond
>>528443523But doesn't dickle require fireproof to be even worth using?
>>528443507nta, also you gotta update the bait, iran is the big happening now
>>528443597I'll take that as a yes.
>>528442401this is the problem, having to rely on a squad-leader and other shit as the claim for 'cooperation'.
its up to the devs to fix it
not only is the squad-leader spawnpoint system not realistic, its also retarded
there are, in fact, many circumstances in war where there is heavy combat and heavy defense, rather than ukrainian guerrilla fighting. you can make a gamemode where the only objective is defending a compound, and players are tightly knit and commonly fighting in close quarters combat. you can make a breakthrough gamemode like in battlefield as well. at the same time, this would all be "realistic" and be an efficient usage of squad's realistic movement and gunplay. this can all involve cooperation, such as fortifications and supply management; just without having to rely on another person to set correct spawn points to literally play the game, which is extremely noob unfriendly.
>>528443632yes, and it is definitely worth using
>>528443432>friend brings supply pack>calls resupply on himself whenever it's off cooldown>eats ALL of it>"dude what the fuck?">"bro I got the resupply pack nothing gets wasted">gives me one (1) resupply>continues gobbling every resupply for the entire missionI need better friends
>>528443429Gas grenades are OP
I like saber and Amendment a lot
De-escalator is SSS tier on bots, for now.
Really pick w/e you want, except for Servants which is the transcore warbond.
>>528443491:)
Fucking fat fingered,
I wonder how many people actually use smoke even when we get it for free.
>>528443646just another domino to fall in the prelude to russian civil war segunda temporada
I love Super Earth btw
>>528443616>law > enforcersHoly jesus are you serious? I thought the entirety of Law was worthless apart from the bugged stun launcher
>>528443623Considering I only bring thermite that might be a good change of pace
>>528443692Well shit, I'd have to get the Freedom's Flame first then. I use Light pretty much exclusively and the superstore only god Med and Heavy for fire shit
>actual discordtroon seething itt
nerfs for the meta slave trifecta of weapons and siege ready, buffs for everything else!
>>528443696>Hey let me pick up the back pack and take a tap
>>528442007still the same as release with 70 rounds a minute
here's a random ass video from september 22nd, 3 days after it was released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeIlwDRzuQA
Not only does it show the stat card that has the same rate of fire listed as it does now, at 40 seconds he fires the stim pistol 3 times at its maximum rate of fire, which is the same as it is today. I even compared it side to side in this webm, first in real time and then slowed to 25%. I even included a button capture of my mouse to show I'm spamming that trigger to get the highest rate of fire. The third shot in his video is slightly delayed because he gets staggered by the hunter, but the time between the first and second shot is down to the frame identical.
The rate of fire is the same as it always was.
>>528443782>De-escalator is SSS tier on bots, for nowExplain
>>528443683>you can make a breakthrough gamemode like in battlefield as well.Invasion???
>stim pistol doesnt heal limb break
>It can heal yourself and has a guided mode
Would this fix it?
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>>528443782I thought ceremony was exclusively for the drip? The M14 does look interesting and the saber is baller now that I installed the lightsaber mod for it lol
>>528444085It can kill Factory Striders
>>528442237'code' is leftyspeak for 'i got btfo'd so now im going to completely misrepresent your entire argument and attack strawmen to soothe my feefees.' Literal tranny behavior.
>>528444251>It can kill Factory Stridersit has 4 pen of course it can kill factory striders. the fucking flag can kill factory striders
>>528444085It wipes patrols out with few shots and can 2 tap hulks (while stunning them so it's very safe), but it is also supposedly bugged, so who knows if this will last
>>528444251>It can kill Factory StridersSo does every other support weapon
>>528443696It does in fact get wasted because supplying from a Supply Pack only restores half of your ammunition, where you would get all your ammunition back from the called in Resupply (if you have the ship upgrade). Your friend is effectively turning eight resupplies of ammunition into four.
>>528444080I honestly do not trust this supposed proof.
It feels like it shoots slower. So it shoots slower.
Your proof does not allign with my experience.
>>528443065So hold on, let me get this straight, if your definition of increasing difficulty is to nerf every weapon so it would require skill to beat D10 because enemies are now harder to kill... If I were to say, completely ignore those enemies and use my jump pack to run from bug nest to bug nest and throw red stratagems on bug holes... Then that would make me good at the game since I would clear objectives on D10, right?
>>528444251The saber is pretty good at killing voteless if you slash their legs
>>528444475criminal it doesn't get the buffs of superior packaging remember when that upgrade came out and didn't fucking work, and then only worked if the person that had it unlocked called resupply, fucking swedes
>>528444281Let me run your post through my translator real quick *Beep boop blip* Here we go. Lets see... It says
>"You made a statement I cant refute so Im going to attack you instead of the argument"
>>528444683Wrong. In my version of the game there would be enemies that jump you as you try to cheese the challenge with your gay jump pack.
>>528444149doesn't work because of the map being too big and the squadleader system.
conquest is already a relatively boring gamemode, the only justification for conquest in other games is the fact their vehicles can always be used to get from place to place. rarely are you in a vehicle in squad other than the very beginning of the game, and if your squad point dies or your squad leader is retarded you are guaranteed to walk. with scarce amount of vehicles or far apart spawnpoints, big maps are not fun. combining realism other difficult things such as large maps, scarce resources and RNG teammates is not a good idea to me, and its not even that realistic.
also invasion maps are are 16x16 and arent linear which means people can just flank and make the battle asymmetrical, making invasion redundant.
You wanna shoot stuff anon? I wanna shoot stuff.
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De-escalator is probably my favorite "experience" support weapons.
Good ammo economy, reloading it feels satisfying, shooting it feels satisfying.
Doesn't matter if the TTK is low, it's just fun to use.
>>528444812Because you made the jump pack only have one charge for the entire mission I take it?
>>528444812Soooo... Hunters?
>>528444735nobody tell him
>>528444656the almighty triple down
>>528434227everything should do 1 damage. all enemies need 80000000000000 health. I have fixed the game.
>>528444992There's no triple down. I give you a (you) for the effort, but ultimately insist that my gut feeling trumps your video.
>>528444929Agreed, I hope they make it more consistent so it doesn't have those volleys that just kind of do nothing but as it stands it's a nice fun addition
>>528442782Nerfs? What nerfs? No nerfs around here, only bugs that conveniently mess with the effectiveness of different guns and stratagems
>>528444975explain this instant
>>528439005Helldivers feels at odds with itself. it both wants to be a 40k inspired future setting with fun sci-fi weaponry but it also wants to use contemporary or cold war era weapons and gun autism.
also the viper commandos armor need much thicker limbs. If im gonna have helldivers in a jungle fight sort of setting I want them roided up like an 80s bodybuilder.
why did you guys get hunters nerfed when they were perfectly countera
>>528444951ble
Double flamethrowers when?
>>528445281Only faggots wanted hunters nerfed.
>>528445238>you can only be one or the other bro
>nerfgods score with sensible arguments and wisdom
>bufftoddlers screech, move goalposts, spout falsehoods, argue in bad faith, and are clearly afraid
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>>528444929Shitty reload makes you careful with ammo so you never run out (no supply pack or siege ready needed). I always run it with jump pack so that I can dive bomb, it's very effective.
>>528445212>volleys that just kind of do nothing Are you sure they aren't ricocheting?
>>528443429>I almost want Truth Enforces cause the shotgun looks neatI got it for the shotty, and its worthless. the SMG is alright but on the whole I regret buying the warbond.
I like servants of freedom. the ultimatum is useful, the double edged sickle is a fun weapon tho it works well with the freedom flame's armor more than its own. the suicide armor is fun but not particularly useful. I dont really use the grenades ever.
I like masters of ceremony for the pure fun factor but it shouldve been a free warbond, nothing in it is actually very useful.
why did you guys get hunters nerfed when they were perfectly counterable
>reposted didn't mean to (you) anon
>>528439936reddit isn't even real anymore, it's just bots upvoting bots stealing "content" from other bots
>>528445238>wants to be a 40k inspired future settingHow so? Fuck no it doesn't. You might come to think that because Helldivers is inspired by Starship Troopers, Dune, and Judge Dredd, IPs that 40k plagiarized, I mean also got inspired by.
>>528445446Why are all leandivers like this?
>>528445526>I always run it with jump pack so that I can dive bomb,Yeaaaaaaaah. I love slamming shots into enemies when I fly into POIS. I take it with urchin, stun lock heavies and mop up the chaff. Can just one two punch things down fast its great.
>>528445438>buffriends: play the game>nerftrannies: try to "control the narrative" in the thread all dayI wonder which one of these is happier
>>528445228it still works like that, it's just that most people have it by now
>>528445421putting cold war era weaponry in a setting where youre trying to emphasize over the top sci-fi weaponry is weird, yes.
>>528445667it literally copied the 40k ship designs in HD1 and drop pods for 40k. its obviously taken inspiration from a lot of different places, im using 40k as referene because its similarly cobbled together from shit the creators just thought was cool. Im not calling it derivative or anything.
>>528444739>ad nauseamI have obviously beaten you.
You are silly.
>>528445676>lean>can suffocate you with her ass
>>528445748>play the gameif that's what you call throwing cluster bombs at your own position while being chased by foot stompable critters
>>528445929Whole lot of projecting.
>>528445748you can remove the plural from the nerfsissy, it's genuinely one obsessed schizophrenic that sits here arguing for 6-8 hours every single day, sometimes with himself
>pubdive on cracka-toe-ah
>geo survey mission
>throw my tesla towers into a wide, open and very visible area
>some retard runs into my tesla and dies
>again, and again
>"stop fucking killing your teammates with your tower"
>decide to throw it into the flanks where nobody goes
>one bug breach appears there, clusters and 500kgs hit it
i wish to love tesla tower so fucking much bros but retards just gotta be retarded
>>528438851https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/1034
On my comp, this mod is good too
>>528443696tell him to slow down gobbling up the resupps and remind him he can just call in a new one thats fully topped off whenever it goes off cooldown.
>>528445541IDK, ask bufftroons. Apparently Hunters "interfered with the experience of Epic Overpowered Power Fantasy" or some shit like this. So they had them castrated.
>>528445421you don't get it man there either has to a field surgery minigame to heal your teammates or a magical gun that fixes all aliments no inbetween
>>528445438there is always going to be a meta
just make different scenarios require different types of metas
and make the player have to train and adapt in that meta, dont make the good things easy to use, but dont make them linear and impossible to get skilled with either.
for example, snipers can be OP in many games because of the high skill ceiling to use it.
>>528445929None of what you just said had any relevance to anything. Is this you "controlling the narrative?" Weird. I'm gonna go play heckdippers, bye.
>>528446007I thought that guy only got on in the dead of night american hours because he works a degenerate graveyard shift security job that he spends the entire time shitposting on 4channel from. It's midday
>>528445541Because the melee animation wasn't fast enough to hit every single hunter that jumped through the air.
I think pred strain was a good fix though.
>>528445446>got bored with the abdo stuff after having it for so long>most of the halo stuff is spartans and the marine conversions are for specific sets and some haven't even been updatedwhy can't everyone be as motivated as fucking gooners. fucks update their shit within 48 hours
>>528445281>he still hasn't noticed the hunters got stealth buffed back to their old behavior a while agoUnsurprising from someone who doesn't own the game.
>>528446241it's hard to notice because hunters have never been much of a threat
>>528446074That never happened, schizo.
>>528446241but they didn't?
>>528446074I don't understand the desire for the power fantasy, we have plenty of games where you're John halo I want to be normal guy going up against insurmountable odds. I thought 40k fags who like guardsmen would understand
>>528444251>M14more like a mini14
>>528446438Well they're back to being able to have multiple of them jump at you at the same time, been a while now, especially for the pred hunters.
>>528446475>i want my children's videogames to be designed for me specifically. me me me!Least entitled nerftranny.
>>528446634>Well they're back to being able to have multiple of them jump at you at the same timeI've never seen this unless you mean pouncers?
I love these goofballs like you wouldn't believe
>>528445863>Logical fallacy in place of an actual argument
>>528446037Well it's doing its job in attracting retards to their death.
I just want shit that trivializes the game nerfed.
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Good players should win and be happy, bad players should get fucked and inch closer to suicide.
>>528446037Once a sentry is deployed it is up to the players to not get killed by it and I struggle to understand how the retards who can't go prone or look around to see if they're in the line of fire of a sentry function in society.
>>528445859>putting cold war era weaponry in a setting where youre trying to emphasize over the top sci-fi weaponry is weird, yes.this brand of shit totally didnt happen in world war 2 bro
ancient cultures werent more bloodthirsty than us now despite us having WMD's or anything.
wh40k isnt weird because of technological progress being associated with religious animosity or anything.
EVERYTHING MUST BE LINEAR! THINGS MUST BE ONE OR THE OTHER!
>>528447179it's your responsibility to place your sentries such that your mates are unlikely to enter their line of fire
if you cannot do this you shouldn't be using them
you guys ever had the staff overseers form a shield wall on your ass before?
I started pointing at their heads with the deadeye and they pulled their shields up, once they'd drop them I took a shot but they would all put it up as faster then the bullet could reach them. It was kino
>>528446240>found the custom compendiumgod is good
>>528446475>normal guy going up against insurmountable odds.>I thought 40k fags who like guardsmen would understand.Helldivers aren't normal guys, they're the best of the worst, outfitted with ludicrous weaponry, training, and indoctrination that put things like regular SEAF soldiers to shame despite not being anywhere near a proper super soldier.
Helldivers aren't Guardsman or Space Marines, They're Tempestus.
>>528446092sometimes i wonder how devs can be so bad at game design, then i remember the players are even worse at it. vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFFpJW0j5z0
>>528447408No, I usually just throw a grenade if they raise their shield. I don't have time for that.
>>528446875yeah you run alright
>>528443897enforcers is a meme emote and armour
law has stun dog and some questionable utility
>>528447483these guys and Kriegers are the only acceptable candidates for a 40k crossover because those two are pretty much the only factions that keep their fucking helmets on at all times
>>528447646Well yeah I could've killed them by shooting at their legs but it was cool all the same
>>528446875>>528447676dios mio... el gachanegro...
>>528444251>m14its a fg42
>>528442786threw a shredder on a defend objective award
threw a shredder at an ally award
threw a shredder again and again award
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>>528446875mod to replace SEAF with rikkers when
>>528448143is there actually anything to the game or is it "gooning to 2d pngs"
all ive seen is shooting a train over and over again while the ass vibrates like its made out of jello
>>528447868it is a poorly-modernized rifle made to accept a larger magazine, resulting in an expensive, unreliable and heavy-as-shit (awful ergo, slightly better now) gun with terrible recoil (still the case). It is very much just a space M14.
The FG-42 is an overengineered, fully automatic intermediate caliber wunderwaffe meant for paratroopers (light, short, easy to carry). The only thing it has in common with the amendment is the side-mounted magazine. By that logic the amendment is also a Sten or an MP18.
>>528448325japanese like those type of games, they just like making it erotic too.
westerners (such as the person you replied to) dont actually like playing the game, they just like the fact its erotic.
know the difference
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>>528448421obviously the amendment is taking inspiration from the bastard gun from metro 2033
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>>528448325It's half gooning and half misery porn. Although, that has changed for the past year and the misery porn is being fazed out for wholesome even though it completely undermines the entire setting
>>528448421yeah its a stirling this guy gets it
>>528432779 (OP)automatons
>expectationhuge skynet terminator army with overwhelming firepower and hatred for all fleshlings
>realityC-3PO getting onetapped while apologizing
>>528446950Just don't use anything that trivializes the game, nigger. Don't shit in everyone's cereal because you're not having fun.
>>528448421>intermediate caliberthe FG-42 fired full sized 8mm Mauser, I don't think it was ever trialed to fire the Kurz since the muzzle device tamed the round well enough and the whole point of the requirement was to combine the existing bolt action rifle, SMG and LMG into a one-size-fits-all autorifle that didn't need to be dropped in a separate ordnance can
>>528448914>use the shittiest items>still pass with flying colorswhat now
>>528448651actually i dont play the game because its erotic, i played the game at the start because it was anime time crisis
but im on a top 10 union so now i have to play until EOS
Whats a good backpack now that the stalwart is free
Could you fags take your animeslop and go kys already?
>>528448914The problem is that this is a team game anon, and I can't control what my team brings
>>528449053Supply pack :3
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>>528448421>pointing out that Amendment is a useless abominationuh oh
>>528449053Jetpack if you wanna shoot and scoot
Resupply if you wanna dakka until your dakka has dakka'd enough that even your dakka has dakka'd.
Dunno about dogs, I dont use dogs.
Portable Hellbomb if you want a "just fuck this area" backpack.
Ballistic Shield to protect your ass when running away.
>>528448325>gooning to 2d pngs>shooting a train over and over again while the ass vibrates like its made out of jelloDon't tell me, you NEED more?
>>528449053add cunny and I'll play your game
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D10 Squids in da megacity
>>528437350And yet you didn't want to do my SEAF RP challenge run.
>>528449053leave your back slot open and team reload your mates
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how would you buff it?
I think all it needs is flame immunity and a bigger health pool like the tesla.
>>528449473flame immunity, more range.
>>528449473A longer range would be nice, but flame immunity and better armor is probably a better call.
>>528449258You're the host, you control whoever gets into your lobby
>>528449041The greatest challenge of your life, gamer.
going outside
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>>528449473range
irl heavy stationary and mounted flame throwers come with 50-80m range
>>528449041Stop being good, y-you DOUBLE SHITTER.
>>528449606>>528449610>>528449814more range would be nice, but I feel like it's meant to be the CQC champ. Might try bringing stun pod booster with it and see how that goes.
I could see them dropping the cooldown to MG sentry
>>528449721I only play with my friends and I dont' wanna tell them how to play the game.
>>528449919mg and gatling sentries have more than enough cqc power and are hard to beat in that category
the flame sentry should just be good at setting things on fire and for that it needs better effective range
>>528449473absolutely 100% needs flame immunity. it kills itself with its on fire more than any enemy kills it
>This has been Coretta Cunny with UUUOOOHHHHHHHHMann news.
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Jega, bring the leandiver into my chambers. Post haste.
>Bots
>Chaff applies pressure from a distance and can be very deadly if they catch you around a corner but their mediums (all dev types and zerkers) are the weakest in the game, able to be one shot with most weapons and ok aim, their heavies are too slow and too easy to hit to put too much of a threat on the player and thus support the chaff, but are often instanteniously deadly if they manage to hit you (tanks, FS and flame hulks.), Most difficult secondary objectives, easiest to break spawners.
>Bugs
>Chaff is a mixed bag of total pushovers and 2 shot machines, their mediums (commanders and hive guard) pose little threat but bolster the effectiveness of the chaff by disrupting your massacre, plus, both their chaff and mediums can all call for backup, and their heavies (Charger, behemoth, impaler and BT) serve a similar but even greater role as the mediums, since they demand attention, if you don't focus them, they can easily kill you, but if you do focus them the chaff are free to get into killing range; since they end up spamming their deadly and demanding heavies the most out of other factions, they feel the hardest.
>B1Squids
>Their chaff is tanky, but are very weak if unsupported, so in lower Ds where their mediums spawn less, they don't do much; their mediums (Mobs, interlopers and overseers) are the real danger of the faction, and are an inversion of the usual way factions work, as squid mediums are supported by their chaff instead of the other way around, making them very dangerous unless dealt with fast, and even then, they spawn as much as any other medium unit; their heavies are super situational, the harvesters have very exploitable weak points and leviathans have randomly generated ai and will wander around like senile retards
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I'm enjoying the liberated penetrator against illuminate. Leveling up the liberator carbine was how I learned to stop worrying and love magdumping on full auto, and I haven't looked back since.
It does matter if the penetrator only does 60 damage if you're just planned on emptying the whole magazine right then and there anyway.
>>528449919>CQC champIt does the job of all the other sentries, killing chaff, except worse, due to its incapability of killing chaff like terminid Warriors or Hive Guard in a quick way, same as Hunters or Pouncers.
Its better on Voteless, but thats it.
Even if they reduce the CD to that of the MG Sentry, there's no reason why I shouldn't use something that can kill chaff and also shoot at chaff past 5 meters.
MG Sentries can engage flying targets too, so Shriekers or Gunships can get fucked by them, and if unfortunate, Stingrays too.
It feels like it requires too much work and positioning to be "worthwhile", and even then, you're better off using the ballistic sentries, or the arc tower.
i wish it was good
>>528450104>doesn't have the balls to tell his friends "hey, let's not use X weapon this time">instead prefers to endlessly seethe about the game on an online imageboard the devs never visit
>>528448121let this be a lesson in situational awareness
>"Ready for another mission, Helldiver?"
>>528450586>"VICTORY, HELLDIVER, VICTORY."
>>528449459link doesn't work?
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>>528434108AH in their infinite wisdom decided to put a giant fucking curve at levels 20-25. Weapon exp goes from 2400 to a whopping fucking 5400. Keep in mind the highest exp you can get for Bots/Bugs is 2400 exp per mission meaning you need to complete a single operation for 1 level and that is assuming you get good RNG to reach 2400 exp each mission. Squids are the worst faction since they only give a pitiful 1700 at their best because they are missing side objectives to reach 2400 like SAM Sites.
>>528450538lol I want them to have fun, I suggest it but I'm not gonna tell my buddy how to play the game after some gay 8 hour shift
>you're seething-oh okay lol
So how strong is Dominator's damage ramp up?
>>528450538resident RRsissy has been on a ten thousand seethepost vendetta for close to a year because he's been asked to to not down dropships back when they first became RR one shottable
>>528450515was surprised to see the flame damage is only 150 DPS. I think fixing that would make a big fucking difference.
>defense planet
>still has modifiers
s-sweden?
>>528450862>want them to have fun>but not too much fun since I want everything to be nerfed because I don't like people having fun
>>528451296there can be no fun without obstacles
there's nothing fun about spawnkilling bugs for 90 minutes
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243718629318/76561199108851031
d10 whatever
>>528450970No one can even prove it ramps up
>bushwacker just does the same damage as the punisher
well shit why would I even bring it then?
Punisher is good because it's got constant uptime.
>>528449473Flame immunity and it should be the one sentry that can go toe to toe with a heavy. Basically nothing should be able to kill it through close combat, it should only go away once it uses up all its fuel, and if that's too strong then just increase its cooldown time. That's really the only way a flame turret makes sense, it's a lingering area denial weapon just like all other fire stratagems, and a charger shouldn't be able to casually plow through the thing.
>>528449006You are correct. I was under the incorrect impression that it would be using the kurz ammunition given its role but I now remember it is also reputed to kick like a mule, making full auto very difficult to use.
It was, effectively, a fancy semi-auto rifle with a panic button in form of the full auto mode. honestly could be something fun in helldivers.
>>528451531You don't. As seen in
>>528323447They are secondary weapons. You should be wielding your secondary at most ~10% of the time. Having a small mag is not a problem if all you need is to evaporate whatever stalker is on your ass so you can reload your primary.
non-utility secondary weapon niches go as follow, in order of most to least important:
Senator: Senator
AAAAAAAAA KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT: Verdict, Talon; relatively high DPS, very spammable weapons, AP3
Chaff clear when your primary or support isn't great for that; redeemer, crisper, peacemaker
melee: melee
doodoofeces without reasonable use case: >>bushwacker<<
>>528451828you are so fucking autistc
>>528451019AT emplacement is more broken anyway. One random bringing it and you are basically just killing the few bots on the ground. Bot became boring because on top of them having storm trooper aim, I get queue with 3 Chinese teammates running RR/AT emplacement and wipe out every single drop.
>>528451430>theres nothing fun about spawnkilling bugs for 2 1/4 missions worth of time...so why the fuck are you spawnkilling bugs for that long? you do know you can move and do other shit, right?
nobody forces you to go bugdive, to spawnkill bugs, or do any of the things that you think are "unfun"
you alone are in control of your actions, and yet, you choose to do things that upset you.
>>528452214yes, what of it?
We're all on the evil nazi site for retarded weebs, on the game about semi-realistic bugsmashing power fantasy; I'm sure there's worse out there.
>>5284514383/4 get in here
>>528452345I'm upset that this game lost so much of its flavor and is alienating its long term player base, sooner than later all the real ones will hit uninstall
>>528452164Bushwhacker can stagger enemies. It's nice to get stalkers off you.
>>528451828going by what footage I've seen the muzzle hardly tips up at all even off the bipod, it's a laserbeam as compact full power full autos go. unrelatedly I'm angry that bipods still do absolutely nothing
>>528452214nigger nigger bitch nigger nigger nigger stupid black nigger
>>528452527>Take Bushwacker>Use it to wack a bush>Does nothingNice scam game
should I use
https://hd2random.com
or
https://democracy-hub.net/builder/builder.php
to randomize loadouts
>>528450258If only the coretta kelly ai sloppa guy had some taste
>>528452345But bug can be fun if dev didn't suck all of the challenge out of it to please casuals who want to play at ego difficulty.
>>528452604I'd kms if I had this much 'tism
>>528452650>select malevelon difficulty whatever that means>supply pack, ems mortar, hmg emplacement, shield relayliteral elder god tier loadout
>slogging through the last level for the amendment
it's an alright gun really but i just don't feel it most of the time
maybe it's the small magazine size
i like bullet hoses
>>528452673if he had taste he would see how hideous AI slop is innit
>>528452650out of those two links only hd2random appears to work so use that
What sort of vehicle would you want this game? I'd like a quad bike.
>>528452994second link only works in this form
https://democracy-hub.net/
>>528452604>the muzzle hardly tips up at all even off the bipodholy shit I just saw Ian (PBUH) firing it, yeah that's crazy. I don't know where I heard the high recoil story from.
... why the fuck did they not imitate that on the FAL rifles those are fucking awful on full auto
>>528453118motorcycle with sidecar
APC
casemate tank destroyer
exosuit with an AT cannon and flamethrower
>>528452650hd2random just gives you what you want
that democracy hub builder tacks on a bunch of arbitrarily determined 'statistics' and generally insists upon itself
>>528453118more than full-blown vehicles I want traversal stuff like an inflatable raft and climbing gear, preferably as mission stratagems so climbing and crossing waters just become things everyone naturally does
>>528453118gunship, frv but 3x more squishy
>>528453441>i want the jetpack except i dont want the jetpackkys
>>528453118just give me the FRV with the GLe and 1 or 2 spare magazines for it. maybe the spear on top of it.
>>528453441zipline launcher device to be able to cross rivers/go down cliffs and hills fast would be kino as fuck
>>528453648ikr let's go full death stranding
>>528453615honestly fuck either jump pack they're goofy and limited as fuck. I would much rather do soldier shit. pontons, rafts, climbing.
>>528453118Big fuckoff breakthrough tank that has armor that can actually deflect shots fired at it and can be crewed by a full squad. Complementary mission to go with this vehicle release would be a new primary mission type where you assist SEAF Troops in breaking through a heavily fortified enemy frontline.
>>528453171go watch his showcase of the FAL Halbek muzzle device then, it redirects the gasses upward so hard recoil and instinct combine to have him pull the muzzle downwards in clearly inverted muzzle flip
>>528452526>lost so much of its flavorwhat flavor? running around in circles to spam reds? matadoring chargers ad nauseam? fuck off with that shit, it was horrible. Nostalgic maybe, but horrible.
>>528454454>running around in circles to spam redsskill issue
>it was horriblefor you
some of you niggers didn't actually play the game on release
>>528454705you just don't want to accept that you were bad and on subideal loadouts
>>528454705I just played on d7 and accepted d9s were gonna take coordinated teams to clear effectively
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>free stalwart
neat
too bad it's not useful beyond the hellpod impact damage
how do they fix the grenadier battlement so it's not completely redundant and useless
>>528454705i did
solid snaking around with the lads in stealth armor was good fun for a while
nothing like getting in to an automaton air control and blowing it up without being noticed
>>528455631ditch the GL, put an autocannon on it instead, both firemodes, 60 rounds, no reloads
How the fuck are super credits not increased on higher difficulties STILL
>>528454705I played a bit after release around 2nd premium warbond. All I missed out was railgun meta and non-one shot charger, which was repeated for behemoth for a while anyway.
Diff 9/10 was hard but it feels right for the highest difficulty. This was only the case for bot at least since bug just get shut down by turrets/fire even before the major 60 days patch shit
>>528455940>shitters clogging up dif10 trying to lootgoblin all the pois and then skedadleNo thanks. Fuck that.
>>528454705I joined after Servants and never bothered doing jammers normally until the Ultimatum nerf
>>528456446I'm fucking tired of farming d1.
>>528453118Exoskeleton because vehicles suck and their fanboys are homosexual.
>>528455940absolutely not. what this
>>528456446 guy said.
>>528456842That's because you're farming wrong then. It's supposed to be D2-3 where the maps are slightly bigger and have tons more pois. If you got a good pace going you can get 100+ SC in an hour
>>528454659no that's simply how you had to play the game since every primary and support weapon was either a nerf gun or had no ammo
>rail gun>breakeryou don't get to comment because you're a metaslaving nigger
>>528455631have you actually tried using it?
>>528457052>every gun was bad except the ones that weren't which I would call you a faggot for usingfor me it was the autocannon anyway
>>528456947>tons more poisnah total bro science
the amount of outposts and other random terrain shit make it about 1:1
might as well farm d1 since you don't have to use your brain
>100 sc an hour if you are efficient
>10 hours for a pass
lol
lmao
>>528457142NTA, I have only seen it used to good effect in D10 at HVA Evac missions, every other time the poor nigger who brought it gets flanked and swarmed unless he has a babysitter to cover for him.
>>528457287glad we're on the same page because the balance was fucking atrocious
>>5284573032+ months between each warbond
>>528457479It's still retarded even if I have to shovel shit for 10 hours every 2 months. I shouldn't have to shovel shit. And for new/returning players it's completely fucking over.
>>528457303play the game 3 times a week, farm for one hour, regular play for however much time you want = the monthly warbond is effectively free.
>>528457609just buy them then
>>528457689kill yourself swede kike
>>528457775but you also bought the game?
>>528457609then just work for an hour and you'll earn more than enough to pay for the warbond? Free means you pay with your time, be glad, most games wouldn't give the option of farming the premium currency and definitely not in unlimited quantities. There's some people with 50k SC
>>528457609use cheats idk, you're brown so you should know
>>528457846>>528457898>buy full priced game>now spend 100 hours farming mind numbing missions with zero enemies so you can use gunsAre you being paid to defend this?
>>528457965or idk just play it normally and have fun, but that's a foreign concept to you
>>528457965if you didn't like the games dlc policy why did you buy it in the first place? did you not actually make an informed purchasing decision?
>>528447179*Throws Gatling Sentry and Flame Sentry right in the middle of Flag Raise.*
Not my problem
Not my problem
>100 sc an hour
join a hdg farming lobby and you'll have 1k in 1 hour at most. Even less if there's a megacity park map open.
>>528457971Based White Man first worlder
>>528458259buying SC is a brown trait, like having a sneaker or snapback collection
>>528456842dude go to mega city maps
Imagine shitting your pants because someone spent their money how they want.
>>528458415>you're brown if you have disposable incomemassive farmjeet cope, farming SC is a brown trait, like earning less than 2$/hour like a jeet in a scam call center
I just don't like it when people support the swedes
You should always do whatever you can to make sure the swedes don't get complacent
>>528458510Which ones are available right now
>>528458893I've already destroyed your argument by providing you with a real world parallel. You are now coping.
>>528459084How does farming SC for less than 5$ an hour "destroyed" my argument? Rahjeesh? Maybe you should scam more American grandmas so you won't have to farm for SC kek. Fucking thirdworlders
>>528459419Way to out yourself as an actual brown with that grammar.
I buy SC because $20 is worth less than the time I would spend farming 1000SC
>>528459539I'm Austrian, you're just a brown pajeet
>>528459617This is the only real metric that needs to be accounted for, does the time you spend farming SC (and the quantity of SC farmed converted into money) even begins to approach the amount of money you made at your job for the same time invested?
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>>528458415>not being poor is brown
>>528458893>you're brown if you blow your disposable income on dumb shit without any impulse controlYes, I'm glad we agree. All those gold chains and that fancy car you bought with that 5000% interest loan doesn't make you rich, it makes you brown.
>>528460003>if you blow your disposable income on dumb shit without any impulse controlThats some weird projection.
>>528460003Its only brown behavior if you go broke buying dumb shit you don't need. This is the distinction.
>>528460003By that logic any luxury you give yourself is sign of being brown and the only way you are considered white is by living like a spartan. I mean, why did you waste your money in a game instead of putting it in bonds or something anon?
>The guy calling people brown thinks 20 dollars is the average disposable income
The self-reporting is off the charts
>>528460080He's a self-hating brown, don't mind him
>SC shitposting again
How many times has this been discussed by now? Just play normally and be a loot goblin by going through every PoIs on every mission bwos... You'll always get 10-20
Buying is cuck behavior and farming is brown behavior. Just play the game normally.
>>528460328>Buying is cuck behavior and farming is brown behavior. Just play the game normally.Based.
>Major Order says to kick Illuminate and Bug ass
>Hit quickplay on galaxy map
>Bots
Classic.
>>528460221Anon is also wasting money on internet, electricity, house payments and property taxes by just complaining about people spending money on the internet.
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>>528460080>>528460214>>528460221good morning sirs it is the early wake up today yes? thankful for the fresh dung filled air today it will give brahmin strength for the grind today to buying the SC
D10 lobby decides steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243724487196/76561198088743007
>mutts shitting on each other about what is brown and what's not brown
You're all brown
>>528460582Hold on. I think youre getting delirious.
Youre calling people brown because they bought SC but youre implying grinding SC is a "white" trait but youre also implying grinding SC is indian thing? Go lay down.
>>528460582I accept your concession
>>528460841excellent reading comprehension
>>528460841I think you need to get better at reading
English.
>>528457142yes but i dont really see what use it has. if you need cover there is shield relay or just rocks. it's very rare that you'll have no cover at all but also be in a position where you want to post up in one spot for a long time.
for any real armor you're probably not gonna be using nades because everyone has more effective AT so it's basically tailored toward medium-heavies or chaff and i dont see why you wouldnt have a bunch of stuff to deal with that already.
sell it to me if you think it's good
>>528460917>>528460957I missed the last but. My bad.
>grind today to buying the SCI guess my ability to read ESL is slipping.
>>528460328>Just play the game normally.Unbelievably based approach.
>>528460328This, I've already almost made back the SC cost from the cop warbond from just playing
>>528460684crashed ill make new one
>>528460972This anon
>>528457383 brings up a good point about it being far too easy to flank, which is honestly a fair point considering both the HMG and AT emplacements have a full 360 range of motion.
The Grenade emplacement would probably be better if it ditched the shield and just spun around really fast while also having a just a massive amount of grenades to spam at chaff.
D10 whatever
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243725043257/76561198088743007
If people were making enough SC from "just playing normally lol" then they wouldn't be farming/buying SC you fucking 60 IQ niggers. Not everyone plays this 24/7 like you.
>>528460328>You'll always get 10-20lol yeah great, and with every mission taking about 20 mins it'll only take about 16 hours of playing to grind out a warbond.
OR you could just grind D1s while listening to a podcast or watching a video.
>>528460694Fuck off, faggot.
>>528461310>make barrier L-shaped>add a second 'nader to the other sidenow you double the dmg output, increase coverage to nearly 360 degrees with just enough blind spot to not be OP, and you can cross 'nade streams with a buddy while decreasing the chances of getting flanked just due to the shape of the barrier.
playing regular bugs after mainlining predditor strain and holy shit its so boring
32 hours until total hopediver victory
>>528445859the pelican is literally shaped like and named after the pelican from halo, how are you this dense
>>528446114>high skill ceilingliterally point your mouse? what are you, stupid?
>>528460694>You're all brownbrown projection
>>528461580If you literally only play Helldivers 24/7 then yeah but if you're the average anons who plays like 2-3 ops a day. That's not really a problem.
Besides, the ONLY "mandatory" Warbond is Democratic Detonation. Everything else is just a side flavour.
>>528460910if I see any of you tourist in my game I will collect your info and kick you out
Do the niggas that post tranime to advertise their lobby sound like girls
>>528463443how'd you get into this general, tyreese?
>>528463443They are most likely Leandivers ready to please you.
>>528463443Everyone in this general other than me is a bratty leandiver in need of correction until proven otherwise.
List of cool discord niggers to hug when you are the host:
>ALICE
>Blood&Soil
>FungusAmongus
>gurololi
>Lemon
>max stirner
>Mr. 4 Pyramid
>Nirah
>Nordgun7
>Pixellime13
>Raiva
>Ren
>rinzu
>Ryoko
>Sens
>The Courier
>UN inspector
>WARPED METAL, FLAYED FLESH
>wkc
>Wulfgamer
>Z2J
>>528460910Yeah, this shit isn't gonna fly in my lobbies. Mess with a wolf and you mess with the whole pack.
>>528463624If you're gonna act like a faggot you may as well sound like one
>>528455631Only useful on High Value Asset defense.
You can use these to block out the paths and the AI will be aggroed to it. Even Harvesters will try to beam it first before even aggroing to your team and it's surprisingly durable too. Always throw these in the front near the doorways
>>528449473Others had already said HP/armor buffs, but what it really needs is stagger so chaff can't just walk right up and surround it.
Flame weapons in general are pretty terrible because they suck at the one thing they are supposed to excel at; win in close quarters.
It needs to be close to deal damage, but even at close range it does not kill quickly enough or hold back its targets (stagger) to stop anything but the weakest enemies, necessitating constant back-diving (which sets your feet on fire).
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243726569054/76561197987223994
Come step on predo buggos with me Onii-chan~
>>528460910i still feel really bad about this one kek, ill make it up next time
>>528460328With the arrow it's even easier.
Honestly it's fun scrounging around for freedom dollars like little hell goblins
>Strafing Run
>EAT
>MG Sentry
>Laser Cannon
You literally don't NEED anything else
>>528464803>two weaponsshitter
>>528464803No, but I want a jump pack.
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775243726667081/76561199108851031
hd1, d8 squids
>>5284644543/4
Hurry the FUCK UP niggers
>380mm Orbital Barrage
>Walking Barrage
>Orbital Napalm Barrage
>Orbital Precision Strike
You don't NEED anything else.
is master of the ceremony worth getting after it got most of its stuff buffed?
>>528463852I'm not in there tho ;/
>>528465006no way it's full
pump shotguns should get this for weapon customization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXkyEbrqNGw
but it might be too much for the small and poor indie developer that made this game
Wait we failed the MO? Why don't people just play against squids, man
>>528466262it's full, i took it
all me
>>528467583bloody basterd
>>528467021Nobody wants to play unfinished zombieslop or leviathan ragdoll simulator. The amount of pubbies I saw quitting mid mission after getting juggled by those flying fucks is crazy.
>>528467021We could've still took the planet after MO (fucking 0.23 decay, its nothing) but blob went to defend some shithole that they will now fail to defend anyway.
So 80% capture will go to waste
I FUCKING LOVE SQUIBS!!11111111!!! :DDDD
>>528468767>We could've still took the planet after MO (fucking 0.23 decay, its nothing) but blob went to defend some shithole that they will now fail to defend anyway.I have no fucking idea why they always do this.
>>528469053They don't either they just saw the icon on map
>>528467021>Why won't people play an unfinished faction that recently got too much spotlight for what they're worth so people are already tired of them?Gee, I dunno.
Maybe if they actually finally added some content in this live service slop instead of solely shitting out warbonds and superstore kikery, people would play the fucking squids even just for fun and not only when some railroaded bullshit tells them to - and even that's not enough nowadays with how fucking boring squids are.
>>528469620You're so mad lol
>>528465006steam://joinlobby/394510/109775243726667081/76561199108851031
d12 bugs now
>>528467021squids still only have ~6 real enemies on their roster
zomboids
saars (fuckin 3 of them) (at least bot
tripods
fat fucks
& the fighter jets
they're also the buggiest shits ever by a huge margin
also leviathans are incredibly unfun to fight
>>528470002>(at least botFucking Cyberstan hacked anon's post
>>528469730Damn, how could you tell?
>>528467021Squigger fatigue is real.
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Smoke chads, do the braap grenades also have these magical powers of concealment?
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it feels kind of lame even though they moved from top down to 3d the game doesn't really do anything with verticality
>>528470626the magical property of not working?
>>528470190Sorry about that, about the bots, I meant to say at least the bot devastators all have different silhouettes. The saars all look the exact fucking same.
>>5284706803D is less about verticality and more about distance.
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>>528470379Pixelated fish jpeg.
>>528467021Why would I play against the beta test faction? Even ignoring the shitty enemy designs, they flat out ignore map geometry more often than not. They're blatantly unfinished.
>>528470680i mean, it would be cool if we could get inside of those buildings to use them as cover OR explode them so they can fall on top of the enemy army that is coming after you, but the common denominator that plays this game doesnt have the hardware for that and the game's engine already shits itself completely when basic things happen because SWEDEN RULES
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WE FUCKIN THEM BUGS GET IN HERE
>>5284698963/4 again, eradicate mission we need (you)
>>528472295whoa mama
maybe bugs aren't so bad
I don't want to fuck any of the factions but I do think a lot of the squid and bot weapons/armors are cool. I'm hoping for an EXO suit that's just a SE branded Hulk or more plasma gear like the Illuminates have
>>528472295>>528472130BUGS DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
>>528472130>>528472295god what I wouldn't give to burn these alive
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sex with bugs
>>528472295Evil, fucked up artist
Stalkers should be svelte and thin, with sharp snipes all over their talons
This one is fat, with smooth talons
get this bullshit out of my face
>bugs make e-710
>for some reason they can't engineer freedom loving terminid gfs so bug-adjacent dissidents can chill tf out while contributing to Super Earth
>>528470626i dont think so, but they effectively divert just about as much fire as smoke since they cause all the affected to kind of forget about you for a couple seconds.
>>528474118I'm pretty sure E-710 comes from decomposing terminids, so unless I'm wrong and you can milk terminids for E-710 like cows, I don't think this would work out very well.
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>another MO where Joel the gorilla swigger retard successfully simultaneously both over- AND under- estimate how much the playerbase can kill in a limited amount of time
Holy shit he's such a dogshit director. When Krakatwo falls I call he's gonna GM-fiat it and add 150 million bugs to the kill count, guaranteed.
If you want pubs plays squid and the MO, then stop defending leviathan you dumb faggot.
>>528464359>Flame weapons in general are pretty terrible because they suck at the one thing they are supposed to excel at; win in close quarters.bring sterilizer if you want stagger
>>528464359It's amazing how AH got perfect visuals on flamethrowers with the leaking fuel needing to be ignited and all and then they give it the stats of a dogshit video game flamethrower. Rising Storm 1 is the only game so far that has captured the performance of a flamethrower perfectly.
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Cursed idea I had but this game really needs something to discourage and counter solo shitters.
Not only because it's too easy to run off and solo everything,
it's honestly the best answer because it's way more efficient.
My idea
>bots spawn dogs that ragdoll you everytime they hit you
>they have SUPER low Hp though, and do like 10 damage per jump
>if you get caught by it though you're done, and they can easilly out run light armor
>Squids
>tentacle monster or date rape monster that mind controls you
>walks up to you slowly while you're stunned
>you lose all aggro and you are immune to damage
>if it touches you, you get immediately turned into a voteless and die
>Terminids
>Just spawn stalker swarms
If you run stealth and stagger you're good.
but you need to be on the ball and build around it if you wanna solo.
It's a lot easier to stick with a buddy.
>>528472130>>528472295YEAAAAH BIG FAT BUG MILKERS!
holy shit this is huge. We finally have a counter for the dreaded harvester
>get reticle on elevated overfaggot
>get aim flinched by either a voteless or a plasma shot
>flies 250 meters above me for some reason, can't headshot them anymore
>I hate them so much holy fuck
>get harassed out of prone by every single enemy in this faction, even through walls
>going prone is what makes you shoot straight fyi
>blow a blood vessel if its 6000 hp mr. bullet sponge (x6), kissing several mags goodbye
>suspend all of my ammo, benny hill to a poi
>"fuck this shit", get on high ground to cuck these groundlets
>nvm they teleport up to me because of their shitty pathfinding and throw me off
>I love sweden
>blue spotlight, quickly take cover before looking around for the leviathan in the sky
>y'know cause apparently proper light sources are beyond Swedish game devs
>sit aside a couple cargo containers, praying to autodesk stingray that it doesn't fly above me
>imagine playing the video game
>never mind there's four of them, cover ain't shit
>ragdoll around injecting stim after stim into my body
>sliding across the floor hoping it doesn't throw me into the nearest clump of enemies to dogpile me
I fucking hate squids. Nothing in this faction is enjoyable. I quadruple killmog with no deaths in d10 and I exit the game pissed off and angry, how is that even possible
>take aim at an elevated overseer or observer
>it gets too close to some terrain and starts warping up and down rapidly
>>528479197I hate sloptubers like you wouldn't believe.
>>528479197>Die to any AP4 items hitting at any spot>Its own laser often miss the play badly most of the timeYea, nu-helldiver 2 kind of "threat"
>>528479316just wear heavy armor and use lasers or fire
>>528478732>bots spawn dogs that ragdollStopped reading there. You're an actual retard if you think there needs to be MORE ragdolling in this game.
>>528479316I know this pain all too well. I don't care if I play like shit and suffer because that, but I blow a gasket when the game just fucks me at every turn.
>5 ragdolling instantly respawning leviathans in the air at all times>no cover>bullet sponges>enemies that warp up terrain, run through walls>take a breather and chip damage is immediately heading your way>try to stationary reload and get a voteless spawning directly behind you and instantly spamming its moving attack over and over>observers with reinforcements on a hair trigger responseI hate it with every fiber of my being.
>>528479969oh okay, they just disable your controls and kill you over time then
>>528480002>He gets filtered by the current baby easy diaper state of the gameMaybe you should just stick to gacha slip at this point
It's nice both of the chud armours are viable in their own way.
>>528480002>complaining about reinforcements on squids of all thingsbrother man please
>>528480835>>528480652They don't filter me, they're just annoying at every turn. I don't think the type of way you have to play against them right now is fun in any way at all.
"Super Beyond" Difficulty when?
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>>528469896https://youtu.be/fAXDWjXsvzw?si=Yf18yzqK-SGfdv-U&t=129
holy fucking struggle session
>>528481315I hope they don't crank the spawn up much but rather roll make some change to make some units better like pre-60 day shit.
>>528479969ragdoll is the only thing that prevents people from just spamming stims, honestly it'd be the easiest way to implement an enemy that's fair to fight and countered by team play.
only the truly free can have a spread like this
>>528481539Ragdoll spam is dishonest.
>>528481461I'd rather see more objectives, less resources, or dire circumstances.
Like no reinforcements/resupply. No orbital strategems. Reduced mission timer.
Or no extract mission chains. You board pelican and immediately head to the next operation without refills
>>528481304What type of way, literally just shoot the drone with bright ass flash light and kill everything else.
>>528445326All good things come to those who wait, like dual flamethrowers... And beer!
>>528481842Which one of the five spawned around you are you shooting? The one that spotted you from behind solid cover or the one that saw you and warped behind a building?
>>528481749what does that mean?
evil undemocratic floating black squares have been assaulting my diver
the illuminate were likely behind this...
Effective now: all leandivers are to be relocated into their respective democracy officer's sauna
>>528482476I get those too, I figured it was just my pc dying...
>>528481784Mission chains could be interesting, though the issue is that it would cause people to just not take the handful of stratagems with limited use (which already are rarely used) but just having reinforcements limited to a whole campaign could work well.
Kinda wish there was some sort of Elite Deep Dive from DRG in Helldivers, a weekly premade 3 mission chain with shared resources you have to do in one sitting. Though with things like actually being more premade, maybe terrain, camps etc. being set by devs manually, which would also allow for way more customized missions since they could make any number of side missions being the requirement for completing it or even completely replace the main mission itself.
Like for example making stopping a convoy mandatory part or even making a mission where you have to stop 3 convoys but that's the main objective.
Something like that wouldn't take more than an hour to set up once they make a system for it and it'd add a returning factor to have a weekly campaign that is manually made thus allowing for various gimmicks and maybe competing with other players due to everyone having the same seed.
>bring MG and gun dog to a squid missions because I have had it UP TO HERE with the fucking voteless spam
>beat the entire lobby combined for kills
I will kill all squiggers. I will behead squiggers. I will smash squigger skulls into the pavement. I am become death, the destroyer of all squiggers.
But seriously it's fun when you get a mission where you just never let off the trigger. And I really hate how Voteless seem to spawn in all directions all the time because it feels like they're literally always just around the corner, even the ones you just checked.
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Leviathans and fleshmobs are dogshit enemies because it goes against the tend most illuminate had. Low Hp, High damage.
>>528484030If you're suggesting I get the gas one, I don't have it unlocked yet.
>>528484070they exist to soak your ammo so the lighter enemies don't just get nuked first.
Problem is that they're not fun to fight, and they're a bitch to CC without gas.
They basically turn the game into kite divers unless you have the DPS check.
>Game is balanced around AC
>"we will never buff it"
>give it flak
>buff the shit outta flak and shrapnel
>illuminates main weakness is flak
>they feel like shit to fight with everything but flak
go figure.
Makes sense why old chargers were hard countered by AC too, when nothing else had the means to kill them from behind due to the insane durable percentage their butt had.
>>528484113>he doesn't know
>>528484169God forbid all enemies just don't crumple if you point at them
>>528484537fleshmobs aren't tough, they just act erratically in melee. Sometimes they can turn on a dime. Sometimes that rush past. Sometimes gas messes them up. Sometimes it doesn't.
>>528481612Truly the best helmet in the whole game.
>>528484438If you're suggesting the laser one, I don't care for it.
>>528484709>Uhhhhh they aren't hard, just annoyingThis is the cope of every shitter that leads the game in the neutered state now
>>528484537God forbid all enemies die in a reasonable amount of time.
God forbid they have any depth to them besides "Shoot at it until it dies"
you could spawn 6 alphas instead of a flesh pound and that'd be more fun to fight. Granted they spawn like 6 fleshpounds, which is like 36 alphas. However that's still more fun to fight because they respect stagger, you can headshot them, they can get stunned, you can melee them.
Fleshpounds are just an ammo waster. Like they clearly exist to be ignored, but the tools to do that are pretty mediocre.
They just aren't well thought out, and aliens is effectively just running around with a jetpack until you complete missions.
Like if they want this game to turn into l4d that's fine, but it's also not balanced around that.
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>Fleshpounds
>>528484786>he STILL doesn't know
>>528469896it was fucking magical
I couldn't figure out how to censor moving text without sitting on my ass for the next 3 hours, sorry
>>528483597Gun dog, Zap dog, Hellbomb backpack, De-escalator, Pyro grenades, Seeker grenades all give inflated kill counts because of de-synch bugs.
Basically what the other anon was trying to tell you is that you're a humongous faggot for caring about kill counts in janky swedish COOP game in the first place.
>>528484990But alpha is different for bug compared to what fleshmob does for the squid. Bug is also a mess right now after heavy need so they are piss easy, even more than before. Squid lacks somewhat durable units to displace the enemies so the fleshmob serve as that. They are like berserker for the bot side (before bots got neutered at least)
daily reminder to fug the bugs.
>>528485287Alright pouncer-chan, that's enough internet for you today
>>528484397Autocannon will only keep getting more important, so play it
>>528469896these hd1 hosts might make me reinstall it
>>528484397Coming from HD1 where the AC was 'ok', I am so happy to be able to use it properly in HD2. Plus I rarely see people use it anymore anyway, and as we get more and more tools the OP power level (or not) of any one weapon diminishes from the perspective of a night of gaming. Except the shock GL, I see that fucker everywhere and its bonkers.
>>528485257kek i meant the hd2 webms
but that'll do, pig
How's AC flak on titan butt, btw?
>>528485274I'd rather take the berzerkers too honestly.
Like illuminate just feel like they designed the faction to be ignored.
Like you never see eradicate squid missions, and the flag mission doesn't give a shit of how many squids are left in the area.
Or how leviathans just endlessly spawn, and you're intended to throw down smoke to stop them from shooting you.
It's like they genuinely want us to just play kite divers. Which that's A-Okay.
Problem is that the faction just kinda spreads you out all the time, so one guy gets railed, or everyone just gets bogged by squids 24/7. The city maps were fine because they were tightly packed and players usually got corralled into a choke.
I dunno.
It'd just be nice if the game was more clear with how you're supposed to do shit.
>>528485287>Browsing through the image>Suddenly feel my dick going hardwelcome to 2018 btw
>>528485585>Except the shock GL, I see that fucker everywhere and its bonkers.new content I think, and people are losing their mind over support weapons that can kill heavies.
>>528485670Technically squids had an eradicate mission back on super earth, repel invasion was just eradicate on a bigger map
>>528486148Repel was more a blitz than anything.
and killing shit didn't actually matter, the best way to do that mission was just run around in circles blowing up ships.
i dont run away from bug breaches to complete objectives because i like shooting bugs
>>528485654It breaks it quickly but it doesn't kill quickly.
The AC is such an annoying middle ground for me. I like using it but I never feel like I'm better served with it compared to the RR or Quasar or whatever. I can't tell if it's the weapon or my own shit aim but it just never puts the heavies down quickly enough. Fragging mediums with it is pretty fun on bugs though.
Recently started using EATs, is it normal for it to switch to your secondary after firing one?
>>528487172think it swaps to last used weapon
>>528486638Not so hot on the AC normally but it's my fav on predditor dives, it rapes everything but titans. Thought flak on the underside would be a cheeky way to kill them, oh well just gotta pack a rocket sentry
>>528484990>Like if they want this game to turn into l4d that's fineAre you referencing the Tank? Even the tank in L4D had more depth.
>itt scrubs get filtered by a slower charger with no armor
Anything with explosive damage rapes it.
>>528488278And by that, I mean even the plasma pistol. Like 4 full charge plasma pistol shots kills it. It can also shoot down stingrays in 2 or 3 shots.
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>>528485583Go for it, i'll be hosting evryday and theres always gonna be spots open
All I need now is a mod to replace the death screams with the halo 1-3 death grunts
>decide to democracy kick last teammate into the pelican to be le funny
>he was holding l' egg
>run on before i notice
>pelican leaves
why am i autistic
>>528487910No the zombie shit, and like endless waves that just endless bog you with stuff to shoot. Like the game actively discourages you from killing things because how much it just burns your resources.
Fleshpounds are just the epitome of that
Reminder that a fleshmob without arms can only damage you with its charge attack, which without any arms barely does damage to you. You can also stun it during a charge and it will lose tracking, and while breaking a head does trigger a frenzy attack even if it is stunned, it won't track you during that frenzy.
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>>528482828>Something like that wouldn't take more than an hour to set up once they make a system for it
>>528488929>oh dude you can take the arms off flesh pounds>If you stun them they lose their trackingOr I could just throw gas and walk away.
>>528488850I saw someone kick a teammate away from the pelican. The teammate was holding a loaded 500kg stratagem. I think you can imagine the rest of the story.
>>528488929didn't know popping a head woke it up.
Does popping a head also remove confusion?
>>528447281youre arguing against points nobody made
>>528462995why dont you play the first game and see some of the other influences in the series chucklenuts
When's the VR update dropping?
>>528489752the ragdolls will have everyone puking their lunch up dude
>>528489885>Reduced size of gut>Can pack more supplies per dropHellpod space optimization in VR will subject everyone to fully accurate drop sequences every reinforcement when the booster's chosen
>>528489752Unironically want more 3rd person controller games to include VR support.
Not to make it first person, but to create an endless horizon by making your head the camera. I don't know if there's a word for it.
Someone did it for one of the monster hunter games. Undocked the UI from screen edges and made it float in your visible range instead so you could look around anywhere but the character still used controller actions.
>>528470680>Megablocks. Megafortress. Bug tunnel city. Megaships. Spacehulks. What could be if AH wasn't incompetent.
>>528467021After long day of grind. What I really want is to run away from fleshmobs and getting ragdolled by levithans.
*Pwee*
Marking loca-
Nevermind
*Pwee*
Objective located
>>528485270Sentries too in some cases. Probably when you aren't near it or looking at it.
Once I did max kill build for fun. Guard dog. Sentries and Seeker. If I rember right. Exosuit. Had over 500 kills and rest had little over 100.
>>528488929Head thing explains lot of things. I use pummeler right now and I was wondering why some times I could stun them easily and some times it didn't work
>>528479197>Hits the eye with literally every gunYeah this is kinda pointless.
I guess the thread is allergic to lobbies now
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>>528488726Looking at where the foregrip is you can see just how absurdly oversized the MA5 family was.
>>528482828weekly deep dives were cool in idea and fucking atrocious in execution in DRG
>making the dives the same seed each week meant sweaties would try to farm resources all week, same goes for supercredits>DRG "fixed" this by making nothing but nitra and gold spawn in missions, making exploring caves for hidden goodies (the whole fucking point) absolutely useless>speedrunning caves mattered to a 0.01% of autists>for DRG, the only functional increase in difficulty was each stage going up half a hazard level which was barely perceptible, and the shared nitra pool meant subsequent missions were even less starved for resourcesI would rather they just have bigger missions. Cram more objectives in them, make the maps larger, whatever. The problem is we're crossplaying with console browns so they can't do anything that would make their PS5 shit itself even more.
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Bots or Bugs
All I want is like a gambling system where you get upgrades n stuff to your mission, like better cool downs n shit.
N you do harder missions which payout huuuuuuge amounts of resources if you complete em.
Like samples and maybe even super creds.
But if you fuck up you basically blew your load on the upgrades you spent for the mission.
That or just fight bots more cause I like taking the stuff that counters them.
>>528492428Oh forgot to mention you need to pay to get the upgrades.
Eg: pay 50 commons for 50% cooldown reduction to reds or some shit.
Then the mission pays out like 60 commons, and like 20 supers. But its way harder.
>>528492428>>528492540I just want something more to spend Medals and Samples on. Currently Requisition Slips is the only thing that's regularly in short supply, both because the DSS effect costs the entire load of 50k and everyone's still currently in the middle of upgrading their weapons. Common and Rare Samples don't get drained by feeding the DSS effects nearly as fast as they can be gathered, Medals only ever get spent when a new warbond releases, and Super Samples just outright don't get spent except on Super Destroyer upgrades.
I'd be happy enough with spending resources just for one-time mission boosts without rewards. If you want more samples, start gathering them during missions (which you should be doing anyways for your teammates and for the challenge of seeing number go up) and maybe even bring Sample Extricator and Sample Scanner boosters.
>>5284924213/4 and waiting (~5 mins at the time of post)
>>528492421>>528492751Failed to join game lobby ive seen this episode before get a new one!
>>528445667It's so funny how defensive you people are over this game being Brand X 40k
>yeah bro it just coincidentally copied all the things that 40k was inspired by, total accident completely unrelated to GW!!!!
>>528492421needs correction BADLY. Why is she not pregnant!?
>>528452164IMO you can get away with using the Talon WAY more than 10% of the time. Especially if you're running Erutpor/Xbow and need some way to shoot enemies without friendly fire risks.
>>528492750>I'd be happy enough with spending resources just for one-time mission boosts without rewards.Yeah. I just think we need something harder tho to justify the bonuses. Or maybe let us pay samples to get an extra strat slot.
>>528494608eruptor feels like the one use case for secondaries that deal damage.
Which is kinda sad, like don't get me wrong I love the eruptor. But it feels like ap3 and ap2 having more of a role for each faction would have improved this.
Ap3 is very mandatory though on squids for overseers, just sadly all the fucking secondaries with ap3 that can actually nuke squid heads SUCK at it
>>528492979Why is he not pregnant?
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D10 Bugs in city or maybe not on Achird III
should I not bother with railgun if I can't use it in unsafe mdoe?
this game is far too safe if no enemies are in close vicinity
as a result everyone is on max cqc loadouts which just don't mesh with the philosophy of all playstyles having their rightful niche
we require more long range threats
the automaton bunker turrets should have their range doubled (minimum) and fire salvos of 5-8 instead of just 3
the cannon troopers from the incendiary corps should fully replace rocket troopers and also have their cooldown greatly reduced or even eliminated so they will actually kill if you fail to countersnipe them
bugs should get substantial projectile attacks
squid snipers should appear and fire the same three burst projectiles as levis
I wonder how bot megacities will handle the drops. Aren't the buildings a little too high for the dropships to swoop in without clipping through the buildings? The squids have the benefit of dropping in from up above and bugs just crawl out of the ground
>>528495036dropships are capable of VTOL so they'd work very similar to the pelicans
>>5284948212/4 Dead hour dives
>>528492901>inspired byplagiarized
>>528494865>eruptor feels like the one use case for secondaries that deal damage.Nigger, you can bring literally any secondary to bots and squids because they're joke factions with their outposts spawned in the open and barely defended. The Fortress walls are not even high enough to block AT shots.
>>528495036They can have the Dropships approach while above skyscraper level, then drop altitude while in hover mode before deploying their passengers and then immediately regaining altitude to leave. Or only have bot drops happen along the large avenues where there's enough space for them to fly in.
>>528495036Why would they clip through buildings? The streets are wide enough to fit bot dropships. They would use the same logic as Eagles do to ensure they come in parallel to the streets.
>bugclowns pretending their faction is that hardest again
>>528495243bugs are objectively the easiest faction though
they practically have zero heavies and preds only ever gave trouble to 420blazeit divers
you shouldn't find bugs challenging lmao we've soloed that shit on d10 during EoF
Anyone's got the gook MEGA pretty please?
>>528489316We need more players like that guy. Throwing a 500 kilo on the pelican was only funny the day the game first came out
>>528494865why cant you use it in unsafe mode? just wear explosive resist armor until you gain the muscle memory to not explode your gun. but safe mode still oneshots most everthing anyway. hulk eyes, striders and gunship engines still go down with one safe mode shot, and that's really all that matters
>>528494865Why would you not be unable to use it in Unsafe Mode? It has a visual indicator for charge level, not just audio.
>>528495412>bugs>barely have heavies
>>528495558>>528495524not everyone is as good as you are.I can't keep track of it in the heat of the battle...
>>528447179It's been proven to spawn patrols inline with players and turrets to intentionally get them shot, btw
>>528495651you'll get the feel for it quicker than you think. explosive resist armor will prevent death from the explosion if you fuck up so it doesnt hurt to try. but yeah railgun is good even if you only run safe.
>>528495651That doesn't make sense, if you can't keep track of something as simple as a charge meter then why are you even playing shooters? And it's not like you have to constantly try to charge the thing in the middle of battle, or only ever fire it at near full charge. Use it as a fight initiator or from ranges where the enemy can't easily fight back, so that there's less going on in your immediate area.
>Selects
Whatchu gon do bout it 'gameplay' boi
>>528447179>Once a sentry is deployed it is up to the players to not get killed by itWhatever you say, nigger. *left clicks on your sentry*
>>528495647Their heavy is so easy to take out they might not as well not exist
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>>528492121Early development Bungie devs planned to have a grenade launcher for the assault rifle but they couldn't figure out how to balance it so they just turned that giant piece of shit into a oversized flashlight and the rest is history. Early Halo CE had a lot of weird stuff like Master Chief having a robotic voice because he's technically a cyborg.
>>528496282>*left clicks you*>*bans you*Chekkumeito
>Run after a guy getting chased by a voteless mob
>He pulls out a sword
I don't want to know what would've happened if I didn't peel for him
>>528496591He would've pwned them, the sword is actually pretty good against zombies
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I'm going to order a big bucket of fried chicken dipped in cheese sauce and a bag of french fries, I fucking love junk food! They're so damn tasty!
>>528496540No this is /seafg/
>>528496512>Bans youWe're not in your discord server, troon. Lay off the xanax.
The leviathan wouldn't even be that bad of an enemy had they kept SAM sites in the illuminate missions but nope, couldn't do that once they've actually added flying enemies to shoot at. But even if they never fucking added those back in, why can't the stratagems you'd expect to hit them even hit them? Orbital laser 100% should be able to damage it, wouldn't even have to kill it but it should be able to target it. ORC should also be able to fucking shoot it. So fucking sick to death of being ragdolled over and over. Half fucking finished faction that should be removed from the game. If you count all the enemies that spawn in any given mission type by numbers alone, 90% of the fucking enemies aren't even illuminate, it's just humans/zombies.
>lower diff
>>528492904>she>no chest, no curves >vague bulge shape, possibly a bulge That's a dude.
>>528496292>Their heavy is so easy to take outYeah, I've heard this one before. Then the lobby votes bugs and you die 7 times to chargers because you're too busy failing your clown EAT juggle.
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>>528497038correction, whatever the second person that joins wants
>>528496440It's not just the height, its very long for a bullpup. Basically Morita Mk2 tier in overkill size, okay maybe its still not as long as the Morita.
>>528496591>I don't want to know what would've happened if I didn't peel for himhe would have near effortlessly killed the entire mob
>>528496873I don't know why AH thinks SAM sites would trivialize Levithans considering their insane respawn. This is why they are gone now entirely on Illumintes because they saw people stacking pancakes with it early on. Also unintended side effect of permanently making squids give less exp. SAM sites have enough shots for 8 leviathans kills if everything hits.
>>5284970383/4, one squid mission, then bugs
>>528495647If you're having any trouble whatsoever soloing any number of bug heavies post the hilariously overblown October nerfs you are doing something very wrong, anon
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>>528497429Ooohhhh, you BAD.
>>528496351Raul and the Vampire
>>528497429>If you're having any trouble whatsoever soloing any number of bug heaviesWhen was this ever said or even implied in my post. Go project somewhere else, nigger.
Each update, the squids make the EAT's equip animation just a bit little bit longer...
>>528497909EATs need- no, deserve a draw and handling buff.
nerf EATs
nerf RR
nerf QC
nerf Spear
nerf termites
The person above and below me is brown and retarded
>>528497267I don't know what the fuck AH expects players at all to do about them. Rocket sent and cuckchair both get fucked by them due to being stationary, their instant respawns/fleeing upon taking any amount of damage makes engaging them pointless and half the fucking roster already ragdolls you so you're going to get fucked anyway. A good chunk of my enjoyment in this game stems from the live service MOs but we've had THREE in a row focused on the squids, maybe more. It's getting to the point where I'm probably going to uninstall if nothing changes soon. This is already on top of the fucked up fleshmob pathing and clipping thru terrain, stingray telegraphs not showing up half the time when spawning in 2s or 3s in already chaotic battles and enemies spawning just outside of POV so object permanence may as well be unlearnt.
>>528498487lower the difficulty
Rundivers was the best meta
worthless primaries, worthless secondaries, cheesing and kiting everything because only stratagems are worth a shit but there's a -1 stratagem slot modifier, +100% cooldown time and +50% call-in time every mission
>>528498607Beat you to it in my original post homo
>>528496873
>>528498329I hated the dive meta and I hate you. Go kiss a frog, stinky.
The talon is so fucking good, both in effectiveness and in sound/animation, my favorite laser weapon by far
>>528498813the Verdict is better
>>528498873And the Senator is better still. Nothing else can be considered a second primary.
>>528498921GP and Ulti mog every other secondary
>>528498951The GP is a utility tool that can't even kill Alpha Commanders in one shot and the Ultimatum has too little reserve ammo to be used outside of pinches.
>>528498951Sabre trounces the rangecrutch
>>528498951Grenade pistol was used to the exclusion of other options only by people who have no brains and cannot think for themselves.
>>528498624it was fucking ass and it made me wanna strangle the devs for their incompetance
>>528498487>I don't know what the fuck AH expects players at all to do about thembring smoke
>>528497019Nice projection. What makes you come to that conclusion
Halt and Cookout muzzle attachments when?
>>528496125bring fun strategems I like because I know someone will actually be dealing with all the bullshit.
>>528498951Special secondaries are noob traps
Synergizing Verdict with a specialist primary such as a DMR and an ap4 support is much better
>>528496292but enough about hulks or tanks, amirite fellas?
>a shitty pistol with no range and no stability
or
>a secondary that can clean up groups, bases and heavies
/hdg/s answer might surprise you!
>>528496418tell asian guys to stop being sluts and maybe we can all course correct together.
Help, I can't stop using the lib carbine with siege ready
>>528500039that is not a man, i don't care what you say.
Both picture are on 90 FOV btw, swiggers fucked up
>constitution is pretty alright, even if this is difficulty 7
>whip out verdict just to fuck around
>head pop head pop head pop head pop
oh.
Well at least the constitution is a pretty decent secondary when you want melee
>>528499360It's just my experience in /hdg/ lobbies with known botniggers and trooncorders. The biggest shit talking faction loyalists are usually the biggest shitters around.
I mean imagine thinking that a faction which can be soloed with a senator and half the map can be cleared by a single cuckchair is the hardest faction in the game. I know a lot of people bait here but there are actual retards out here who think this ragdoll fest clown faction is le epic and tacticool.
>>528499887only thing wrong with the verdict is its aids irons, which this accidentally fixed. Was wondering how first person would work, you just aim with the front sight post
>>528500523He has a penis ive seen it on his onlyfans, if you only saw the SFW stuff honestly you would be able to tell, he has wide hips for a dude and a thin waist and a fat ass.
>>528500246If they ever add bayonets as an attachment, I'm gonna slap one on the lib carbine and just play like your picrel
>>528500246Enginner, MG, and my HATE!
>>528449473Fire proof
When lit, bugs and overseers panic and flee, machine types slow and become increasingly unresponsive, any others are blinded (voteless, meatballs)
>>528500742>Not just meleeing enemies with the rifle buttYou are weak!
>>528500246>watching its spread pattern shrink to nil with the correct attachments>its fucking godly on both bots and bugs because of thisstarting to see why they didn't make the stalwart a primary, a grip on that thing would make it shred ass like no tomorrow.
>>5284970383/4, now we're on bugs
>>528500039wonder if all troons were this high effort would anyone have an issue with them
Why is it that only the white-orange Servo-Assisted armor from Steeled Veterans is the only one with actual battle damage shown on it
You can see shrapnel and bullet holes in the armor and the helmet
Every other armor we got so far is factory-standard clean
>>528500530>set high FOV>get high FOV>complain
>>528501341The answer to every question is always the same. Swiggers are lazy and incompetent.
>>528499887>no rangeskill issue
Verdict can easily pop weak points from well above 100m if used skillfully
What can AH even do to make the squids feel like a complete faction?
>>528501652replace voteless
remove leviathans
release cultists
presto
>offensive strategems, red icon, red beacon
>delivery pods, blue icon, blue beacon
>turrets/defenses, green icon, BLUE beacon
I'm mad.
>>528500660I don't respect current bot neither. I like pre-neutered bot.
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>take hmg all the time
>been trying out peak physique
>tap a head and it dies
>huh....
>tap another head and it dies
>tap tap tap tap
I don't like this, feels like I have a 100 round DCS but with pen 4. Like I'm just beaming heads with this thing. Like it's fucking strong but I feel dirty using it this way. It wants me to hold the trigger down, but I'm blue balling her.
>>528501737vgh... ragdoll spam and instakills... trve gamedesign...
>>528500660It's the most fun faction where HD2 can shine with its tactical sandbox aspects whereas the other factions are cawwadoody inspired dakka dakka brrrrrt adhd simulators that have nothing to do with what made this game so big
Do we want Helldivers to live on or do we want it to get Halo/Mass Effect'd?
>>528501843Better than the cuck chair gameplay
>>528501726>EMS strike>blue icon>Orbital smoke strike>red icon>Mines>red icon
>>528501886you can just not bring the cuck chair
in fact barely anyone does, which you would know if you played the game instead of shitposting in /hdg/ all the time
JEGA, WE ARE NEARING PAGE 10! DEPLOY THE NEW THREAD, POST HASTE
>>528501652pre leviathan they should have leaned into squids being the divide and disrupt faction. units that toss barriers in your face, un armored psychics that snatch your reds in mid air and toss them back at you, ect. Seems they're still set on random ragdolls and other cancerous things
>>528501853> tactical sandbox aspectNice try with the buzzword salad. In real words this translates to "I can bring any dogshit loadout and win because the faction barely has a gear check."
>>528501853it's funny but I'd say bots feel more call-o-duty tacticool than the other factions.
Other factions I run around and play tickle time keep away.
Like I gotta press all the special colored inputs to maximize my DPS so the horde doesn't diddle my anus.
Bots it's like I walk in, I shoot stuff in the head, and I throw down orbital bombardments when it comes off cooldown.
Shit feels a lot more balanced because my guns carry the game so much.
My slots don't matter as much, they just exist to look cool.
I know a lot of people hate that bots are solved with AP4, but I think that honestly makes the game feel a lot better.
means I don't gotta think so much about what I'm doing, I just take it nice n easy and shoot shit when it pops up.
Worst I gotta deal with is ragdoll, but I honestly welcome that shit when I'm throwing just as many explosives down range at them.
there's nothing wrong with "solving the whole map" via long-range means
what gain or fun is there in running up to everything like low tier cannon fodder
the day we can range deploy stratagems is the day this game becomes complete
>>528502234Gear checks are bad game design.
>>528502234>"I can bring any dogshit loadout and win because the faction barely has a gear check."And that's a good thing
>>528502020only useful in eradicates and blitzes and that's entirely up to map layout for the latter.
>>528502331gear check should make a fight easier if you pass, not make your ass hole get blown out if you don't.
>t.turn based RPG gang
>>528502284>Shit feels a lot more balanced because my guns carry the game so much.I agree, and HD2 should ultimately be about its guns, not orbital strikes and eagle pew pews.
I like bots because they're the only faction that rewards accuracy thanks to meaningful weakspots.
Call me a faggot or whatever, but I like it when a shooter makes shooting straight rewarding instead of just holding down the mouse button and bullethosing everything to death.
Meanwhile bugs lack meaningful weakpoints or even ways to cripple strong enemies outside of the chargers ass and squidders are a faction of bulletsponges with more fake weakspots than actual weakspots.
Repeating the same bullshit over and over again wont make the game and the devs suddenly cater to you, especially on a chinese basket-weaving website catering to social autists and other outcasts.
The game wont suddenly have bots turn on their "TOTAL-HUMAN-DEATH" killswitch and get 100% accuracy, just because you repeated the same shit a 100 times in a row.
Stop acting like a popular live-service game is gonna turn into your autistic wet-dream of how a "TRVE BATTLEFIELD" should look like.
People play this game because they wanna shoot some bugs, maybe fight bots here and there.
Suddenly changing all the bot behaviour over night to be complete cancer will do them more damage than what you retards believe the 60-Day Patches did.
>b-b-but why not make an optional difficulty then???
You answered it yourself. Its optional. An option. An option they are not doing, because they have 0 reason to do.
AH doesn't cater to you, and never will, unless you actually go and reach out to them.
AH caters to the masses that actually buy their games and pay for SC, casual average joes that dont want any of your autistic ideas of difficulty.
>>528502478Helldivers wouldn't feel like Helldivers without Reds, or even Greens.
>>528502549A game should chiefly cater to its long term players, not the normie mob. We'll be all that's left once the tourists have moved on. And as a consequence we'll be catered to.
>>528501652I don't know about complete, but this is how I'd fix em.
Drop the health of overseer heads to something like 100
so you can one tap them with more ap3/ap4 shots from shit like the talon or verdict, and AP3 primaries.
voteless randomized unit HP is honestly kinda stupid. Means you can never tell how many shots it'll take to down them at a glance.
I know it kinda breaks the monotony of a pretty basic bitch chaff,
but they should have special units that look unique and do unique stuff.
Like just mix in an explodey blue guy in there ranks from here or there.
Make the precision weapon fags happy shooting them. It'd also make the chaff more fun to shoot in general.
Harvesters should honestly line up the laser on you immediately and then it flicks before it cuts you in half.
So many people die to the beam because it's targeting someone next to them.
it's kinda hard to tell which way it's going at a glance.
Flashmobs need like ap3/ap4 legs. If they break the fleshpound slows down and bleeds out. If you break both of em it dies.
Fleshglobs should also be more susceptible to basic explosions. Two impacts should kill a Fleshblob for a rule of thumb.
The faction could use more single target POIs. Like things that require 120/380/500 shells to break.
Could use more units that if you kill them the rest of the units around them break, like a voteless mind controllers.
The new aliens stuff looks cool though, and I'm excited to play em.
Oh and they should have a super heavy unit that just floats above POIS and shoots at people, and has a massive blind spot underneath it.
So you're actually encouraged to get close to it and engage the enemies beneath it. blind spot is being roughly within like 50 meters of it.
>>528503010>arrowhead sirs the oversaar is too much strong!!! you must do the needful and nerf the head!!!didnt read the rest
>>528501836just take siege ready or supply pack
>>528503972why would I do that when its faster to kill stuff this way? I waste less bullets and I waste less time reloading. Like I totally get you anon, but this honestly works better in almost every scenario. It's honestly disgusting how much of a head popper this thing is.
>>528501836First post about how the HMG actually plays I've ever seen in /hdg/. It absolutely shits on enemies if you treat it like the overweight DMR that it is. Stalwart and MG43 are for dakka.
It's only a dmr if you can't handle recoil.
>>528496440>Microsoft Sam chief could have been canonlmao
>>528503010i had to stop reading when you decided you wanted overseers to go down as easily as bots do