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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
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>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

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>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/
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-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
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-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
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I LOVE TV!!

Post SOVLFUL art

gay sex with asriel

Asriel's college dorm-mate who always sleeps alone in their own seperate bed.

Wave 1: Susie/Ralsei/Noelle
Wave 2: Berdly/Catti/Jockington
Wave 3: Kris/Dess/Asriel

I think Gaster could realistically invent black LED lights

>>528767286
i do wonder if this time we can do the thing, i'll donate 6 of them to the cause
I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV! I LOVE TV!

>>528767319

But seriously, what happens to a Darkner if a ghost possesses them in the Light World?

>>528767606
they turn into a roaring knight

>>528767487
Weak
I pulled through without them

in your headcanon, who has the bigger cock? fem-kris, male-kris, dark-ralsei and white-ralsei

>>528767606
>In UT, once a ghost finds their "true body" they merge with it permanently (making it possible to kill them lmao)
Well, anon, when a darkner and a lightner like each other very very much...

>>528767606
kris

Some schizo in a previous thread mentioned Ralsei might be Asriel's Dust.

I'm prepared to believe, I just need someone to explain how.

>>528767776
ralsei obviously

I believe the morning sun
Always gonna shine again, and
I believe a pot of gold
Waits at every rainbow's end, oh
I believe in roses kissed with dew
Why shouldn't I believe the same in you?
I believe in make believe
Fairy tales and lucky charms and
I believe in promises
Spoken as you cross your heart, oh
I believe in skies forever blue
Why shouldn't I believe the same in you?
You may say I'm a fool
Feelin' the way that I do
You can call me Pollyanna
Say I'm crazy as a loon
I believe in silver linings
And that's why I believe in you!
I believe there'll come a day
Maybe it will be tomorrow
When the blue bird flies away
All we have to do is follow
I believe a dream can still come true
Why shouldn't I believe the same in you?
You may say I'm a fool
Feelin' the way that I do
I believe in friends and laughter
And the wonders love can do
I believe in songs and magic
And that's why I believe in you!
You may say I'm a fool
Feelin' this way about you
There's not much I can do
I'm gonna be this way my life through
'Cause I still believe in miracles
I swear I've seen a few
And the time will surely come
When you can see my point of view
I believe in second chances
And that's why I believe in you!

>>528767776

>>528767776
ralsei if kris is female because he can't stop getting hard
kris if he's male
normally i'd say ralsei negra but i think whie ralsei just because he doesn't stop growing blood starts flowing into his cock again after 16 darkner years of celibacy

>>528767831
Even as far as schizo theories go, that would make very little sense

Im not joking bros
Where do I get more fem Kris art?

>>528766184
In the Green Room check the note by the door (see pic), it will tell you if you're missing anyone or if you've recruited everyone

i think toby is kind of a dick to be frank

this general dried up now
im going back to /smbg/

>>528768154
k

>>528767831
There's never a real explanation, just "dude he looks like Asriel so he must be Asriel somehow."

>>528767161 (OP)
>tfw Dark Place starts playing in the microwave hallway

Kris needs correction

>>528768154
just like my balls dried up after i came inside your mom all night lmaaaaaaooooo geeeeet dunked onnnnn kiddo

>>528767991
>Never finished Lob Corp because I was bad at it
My forgotten shame...

Reminder

Am I the only one who thinks Asriel really is at college and nothing more?

>>528768223
He doesn't even look like Asriel, that's just boss monster racism. Kris points out that they look very different.

>>528767337
his hips are not that wide

>>528768325
>implying I need a reminder

>>528768272
i'm unsure why but the second i saw this image i had the need to pull her up by her hair and punch its face until she had a black eye and a bleeding nose

>>528768396
wronge

>>528768340
what is asriel studying at college?

>>528768396
proofs?

>>528767286
Email >>>>>>> TV

>>528767791
Kinda fucked up that before the Mad Mew Mew update, Mad Dummy only felt true happiness once during the genocide route and this was just canon for 3 years.

>>528768340
No. I also think Asriel's having a normal college life. Otherwise Kris wouldn't be the second most depressed looking motherfucker in town

>>528768467
>what is asriel studying at college?
meteorology/astronomy shit

>>528768323

>>528768396
of course they are, how is he gonna birth human children otherwise?

>>528767414
>some day
the more i see the way he words things, the more i believe that "winning" the game is not just listening to the story and skipping it to the end with mercy and pacification and the more i believe that the real good ending is no longer about moral absolutism but a complex act inbetween mercy and cruelty that changes fate in just the right way.

>toby is aware of dataminers
>toby is aware of how well-received his different routes were
>toby is aware that he can make the good run more than just PRESS X TO MERCY
>toby already made both routes more content heavy than just playing the ambient song on 0,5x playback speed.

i hope it will be good.

do you like kfc in your country?

Is this a normal part of the game or did I somehow stumble upon the weird route? I'm assuming the former.

>>528768340
I fully believe Asriel is at college because we've given literally no reason to believe otherwise, not even the slightest hint

I RAPE TV!

>>528768594
normal
>discord
:|

>>528768325
NO WAY THEY HAVE IT
CANNED FAVE!

>>528768594
You'd 100% know if you were actually on the weird route, trust me. Now leave before you get spoiled.

>>528768703
idk why it saved as that man

>>528768584
I dont like fried chicken in general
Nasty shit, always makes me feel ill for hours when I have it

>>528768594
>gay affirming route
>discord in filename

how could tenna have predicted his little kris would grow up to be so evil

>>528768094
Did I fuck up?

>>528768594
>discord

>>528768873
yes

>>528768091
>1. Pick art site of your choice
>2. Search for Kris Deltarune
>3. Pray
Alternatively, you can find an artist who views Kris as female in some way, thereby making all of their Krises fem Krises.

>>528768928
How?

I can see it in the dark
the question is
Can You?

>>528768952
By attacking somebody, obviously

sorry kris i know youre antisocial and reclusive but i NEED to speak to catty and burgerpants and the green gremlin guy in the mayor hall and the nurse and the bird thing in the library and

>>528768467
Internet memes on his phone. The subjects and whatever are all taken care of by FaveGPT
>>528768584
Never tried it. But I have had fried chicken at a couple other places
>>528768742
>Filename
Heeeeeeeey wait a minute

>>528768873
>https://youtu.be/pwMAauD7nGQ
i thought you were different, anon.

>>528768340
I think he’s at college but I also think he doesn’t like having to go back to hometown. I think it’s strange we haven’t heard anything from him directly when he could just call or text Kris Toriel Asgore or anyone else from hometown at any time.

>>528767831
Your other replies are braindead for some reason
https://youtu.be/9UKQ_9y4bdw?t=1886
This is the main source behind that theory

>>528769125
shit and pooelle

>>528768873
You kill an enemy type once, it becomes lost forever even if you recruited the others. Ralsei explained this back in chapter 2.

Has anyone found the egg man in chapter 3 and 4 yet so I don't have to play through the whole ass game another god damn time before chapter 5?

>>528769073
I like that green gremlin guy's briefcase got katana'd by Carol

>>528767414
Honestly, it was pretty dissapointing how Toby didn't put Catti and Jockington in chap 4, time to cope for chapter 5 (but i doubt it)

The Mike Zone's OSTs are great

>>528768952
You attacked one of them, that's what the "hurt on the job" is referencing.

>>528769186
>links a Youtube theorist
>calls other people braindead

>CRTs will always be relevant for improving the graphics of pixelated games
>flatscreens are consistently doomed to be outdated and replaced, from 1080p to 1440p to 4k to 8k.

>>528769225
chapter 4: on the room where you get to the moss, try to hug the wall, there's a secret passage
chapter 3: it's a whole quest, all i can say is that you must chuck a block into another screen, the small hint at the top left corner of that puzzle will give you the clue of which other screen it is

>>528768928
>>528769008
>>528769104
>>528769224
How fuck should I have known I would be bricked from getting someone it I didn't go full autismo pacifist?

>>528769186
Oh, so I'm the braindead one for not watching a goddamn 1 hour theory video by some chucklefuck with an annoying voice. I see. Cool. Great. Makes sense

did you have a deer meat at a restaurant?
does it taste good?

>>528769504
Because Ralsei told you.

>>528769469
Total Tenna domination

>>528769073
>>528769320
>Green gremlin
His name is Diaps guy

am i the only idiot that got confused at the lancer controller room? the comment he made about breaking controllers made me believe that you had to somehow dig enough with one same controller to break it and then something else would unlock, the whole retrieving controllers thing confused me too

>>528769504
You'll be fine, you just won't have all the NPCs in your town. That's the only real thing that's affected rn

>>528769504
It’s chapter 3 man

Feacher

So Ralsei is obviously a special case in terms of how darkners work. So what if he's an entity that's always existed and was given form from Kris's will?

>>528769504
try to not be a speedreader next time

>>528769225
Chapter 3 is somewhat complicated, there are hints for how to do in the ball machine or you can just look it up on the wiki. If you already got the Shadow Mantle, you're fucked.
Chapter 4 is easy, there's a long room with stained glass windows. One of the windows has an egg at the top if you look closely. Walk into it a few times and you'll find it.

>>528769504
anon, i am a snowgraver and i managed to spare everyone.
how incompetent are you?

>>528769136
Doesn't Alphys say that he keeps in contact with Kris?

>dess not even officially out yet
>already insanely attracted to her

¿Someone has the link for the current whiteboard? I forgot to save it cuz i'm so fucking autistic and forgot

>>528769515
>(asriel don't fuck it asriel don't fuck it asriel don't fuck it asriel don't fuck it it is tempting but do not fuck it)

>>528769504
Your only option left is to kill yourself

>>528769225
you need a guide for the chapter 3 one

>>528769504
Get a load of this Nubert-less retard

>>528769718
>latin american

>>528769620
I think it's because in the scrapped Big City Board (there was a full gameplay section with it, you can play it yourself or watch it on YouTube) you can get multiple Lancers. I believe it was just supposed to be a callback to that, with no deepet meaning

Noelle

Post fanmade schizoboss art of Ramb please

>>528768340
Do people seriously believe he's not actually in college?

can't wait for the chapter 5 flower boss/schizoboss/miniboss so we get a fuck off krautfag image

>>528769706
Dess likes little boys

>>528769675
Yes, but it was via the internet only and not text or cell for some reason. It’s brought up in relation to the whole “town wide internet outage” thing

>>528769620
>am i the only idiot that got confused at the lancer controller room?
yes

>>528769706
Of course she's not out, she's hiding in the closet.

>>528769504
>how the fuck should i have known
the game literally tells you, you deplete an enemy's hp literally EVER, they're lost

That goat is getting fucked, there's no way around it

>>528769861
I'm spanish, i don't know if that it's better or worse

>>528769945
>dess is still in the closet

>>528769864
EXCHEESE ME?

>>528769887
Yes there have been dozens of theories since even the chapter 1 era that Asriel is secretly X, Y, or Z.

Despite there being literally no evidence to him being anything other than being at college.

>>528769504
>pacifist
>kills someone
Belletard...

>>528769628
>from Kris's will
From both Kris and Susie. Remember, Susie thinks he looks like Toriel, who's her favorite person in town (at least up until the end of chapter 4.) That's why Susie is shocked by the hatless Ralsei reveal at the end of chapter 1.

>>528769520
Only ever eaten venison that was hunted
It's very good if you know how to cook it

>>528769980
forgor to reply >>528769759

You are, by the way. Try not speaking out on something you're clueless about next time :)

>>528769887
Yeah, dead or making fountains for some reason

Every force you create has an echo.
Your own bad energy will be your undoing!

>>528769875
i like the concepts where he's a werewire (would it be a were were werewire?

>>528769489
>>528769643
Appreciated

>>528769675
I think she says he talks to us on the computer but I’m more so talking about the duration of the game. Yes it’s only 4 days but if he’s visiting next week you would think he would maybe tell his parents or Kris something ahead of the visit. Instead everyone in hometown refers to him in past tense, I don’t blame people for making crazy theories about him because it does seem kind of strange, the longer we don’t hear anything from him the more I feel like he’s avoiding us for some reason

>>528770161
Please don't misgender Kris, it's really easy.

>>528769574
>>528769623
>>528769625
>>528769665
>>528769845
>>528769951
>>528770092
Oh well
Gotta live with it then
Is there anybody to watch out for in chapter 4?

>>528770096 (Me)
Also the only established fact about the player is that you've played Undertale, so he looks like your best friend Asriel. So Ralsei's appearance is influenced by Kris, Susie, and (You) combined.

The chess darkners present are specifically a bishop and a knight. For those not familiar with chess, a checkmate with king, bishop and knight vs. a lone king is one of the hardest one to deliver. It's so complicated you might as well offer a draw. Which is why Mr. Society and Horse are looking for a third. Every trio in Deltarune consists of King, Knight and Bishop. In our party Kris is the Tactician(King), Susie is aggressive and unpredictable (Knight) and Ralsei is religious (Bishop). We are going to call this The True and Neo Chess Theory.

Genuinely what did Toby mean by this? The titan spawns too

>>528769504
I understand how hard it is to not want to attack the Pippins, they honestly kinda deserved it(except for the green one).
Can't you just edit your save though?

>>528767319

>>528767353
>>528768202
>>528768692
>>528769606
>>528767337
>>528767831
>>528770161
you are all faggots btw

>went to huge music festival
>place absolutely filled with degenerates, dorks, and flag people
>had buttons of Lancer, Susie, and blunt smoking Ralsei on my camelbak
>absolutely no one recognized it
Deltarune is chudcore now?

When you fight Carol it will be hilarious when she pulls out her giant Katana

>>528770384
The Titans are your fear of the dark
If you saw that thing in the dark you would get scared as hell

>>528770290
>everyone in hometown refers to him in past tense
This isn't even remotely true. Catty's dad talks about him becoming a big shot at college, Pizzapants says Kris should tell Asriel about Pizzarina, etc.

>>528770384
The final boss Titan we fight is going to be a realistic human head

>>528770468
what did i do

>>528768340
Asriel will be the secret super boss for chapter 6, but he wears a disguise, isn't associated with Carol and the Knight and Kris is a worthless fuck to act or damage him

>>528770573
Dess

>>528770468
>Ugh, these faggots in my /utg/
>I remember when 4chan used to be good

>>528769887
He's dead, the Knight, Ralsei, and the purple guy all at the same time

>>528770468
thanks bro appreciate it

>>528770034
better but not by much.

>>528770384
>Flowey acquires souls -> TV display has a human face
>Titan appears -> Appears with the silhouette of a human face
It's a power level thing.

>>528770573
i don't know, i just picked random replies in the thread to see if i could fish up some (you)s
im a bit lonely and very bored :c

>>528769875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdJcfmYvVU This one is pretty cool with de Zelda copy leitmotifs

>>528770234
Yup, werewerewires are the ones without a cable

>>528770491
>>528770384
2 theories that make sense

>Kris's biggest fear is other humans

>Titans are "goner angels" which is why they have big monochrome save points in their design. They are mirrors to the player being the real angel

>>528770469
There's someone with a Chara plush in their windowsill of my work and I don't know them well enough to comment on it.

>>528767319
Snowgrave gets all the kino

Does this work? Can anyone confirm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0gH9Xdumtk

>>528770657
The*

>>528769073

>>528768340
yeah but the surprise will be trans asriel in flame magician outfit

>

>>528770469
Nobody wanted to talk to you about your buttons because you look like you rape deer in the woods

>>528770469
some prideflags are okay.

>>528768467
Game Development. He's working on his final project which is Gaster's DELTARUNE

>>528770470
Her big kitchen katana and the smaller black katana in her room
Or maybe she has both on scabbards on her hip and she uses quickdraw techniques

>>528756897

>>528769706
the fans yearn for tomboy deer, even if we don't know what the fuck she looks like

>>528768559
The game is 100% pushing that true happiness and freedom cannot be attained without pain and sacrifice.
Broken arm berdly being his best outcome is the best example of this. Yeah you can save berdly without him experience any pain, but by doing so you are denying berdly growth. You are denying berdly freedom. Full pacifist berdly is SAD at the library.

we're famous

>>528771023
God I wanna feel her buck teeth graze my cock while she blows me

>>528770721
i want to believe you

>>528770379
I consider any variant of chess theory to be dead, sorry. One of Susie's titles is dark knight, though.
Also, his name is Mr. Elegance, but it's a good thing you forgot so I can remember and check the text dump for "elegance" just in case it means anything.

>>528769073
Looking forward to the scene where Kris punches the SOUL for each time you made them talk to milk looker.

>>528767606
tenna turns into a cool mecha mettaton will pilot to kill their enemies (tv critics)

Reminder Kris IS Susie's puppy

>>528771090
then let's not forget gerson.
i remember him telling us that the prophecy is not a set-in-stone thing and how we may define it ourselves to some degree.

i wonder how much leeway we get.

>>528770469
deltarune is big, but the world is waaaaay bigger
and probably people who play deltarune are also too shy to approach strangers, even if it's just to compliment you

>>528771014
That's adorable

>>528769073
WE HAVE TO SEE PIZZAPANTS KRIS. EVERY DAY. UNTIL THE PROPHECY IS COMPLETE.

>>528770384
Miss Mizzle dialogue
>Again you pray! With renewed vigor, but now your hands shake with carbonated nerves
>And fear drips down your face in painted horror.
>You beg not for salvation by my purity, but
>For fear of some ugliness you see reflected in the glass.
>Once again I shall show mercy, but no more.

>>528771153
starwalker foreshadows it
>unoriginal starwalker looks like titan
>titan is monochrome
>copies are monochrome, but ORIGINALs
are colored

>>528771103
a)literally who

b)it's not a conspiracy if it's true

>>528771335
I really wonder what the complete Shadow Crystal object is in the light world

A Lens, Screen or Mirror all make sense

>>528770920

>>528769875

>>528771090
Berdly would've kept all his character development if Kris and Susie hadn't told him it was all a wacky dream though

>>528771450

>>528771335
>>For fear of some ugliness you see reflected in the glass.
Shadow Crystals...

>>528771434
mirror doesnt make sense since its translucent, not reflective

>got to huge music festival
>accept that there will be plenty of degenerates and alphabet people
>see a genuine in the flesh /utg/ faggot with buttons and stickers of the characters and all
Nope

>>528769073
This is actually really important to making Kris realize how important they are and how much everyone loves them and why they shouldn't commit suicide just because the Knight told them to or whatever because Pizzapants would be really sad

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>>528771492
Wait

The complete item you get by completing them will turn on the camera in-game and use it as a battle mechanic for the true final boss
literally "you as the angel"
toby is already testing the mic
it's logical

>>528771459

>>528771014
That is a seriously good Ralsei, on-model face but manages to not look weird, especially in that style and next to Kris.

This is how I imagine Kris looked the entirety of chapter 2 snowgrave route

>>528769520
Only missing a ring

>suddenly, I receive raspberries
I love raspberries! I can't decide whether I like them more than strawberries.

What about you, /utg/? What is your favourite fruit?

>>528771618

>>528771739
i like raspberries but they go off in a day tops. the humble grape is sturdier

>be huge music festival
>hope for nerds to show up
>they are all degenerates, dorks and the lgtv community
>only two nerdy faggots in the entire festival
they didn't even make out

>>528771687
PROSNEED

>>528771687
kris in general is giving me mixed signals.
>is implied to have smiled during snowgrave in ch2
>works with the knight
>has a tismfit if we rape the doe

this bitch makes no sense.

>>528770161
No? It was me! Stop this crap

>>528768559
I'm not sure if I like the "in between the lines" half Pacifist half Weird route. If this is really the game's secret to the best ending it needs some very good directions on how to make it in later chapters because doing an aborted snowgrave, keeping the Thorn Ring and crafting the Twisted Sword require some metagaming to even consider doing

>>528771090
Hospitalized Berdly doesn't really act any different than library Berdly.

>>528770384
It's the forgotten man

>>528771345
That reminds me, what if the eggs have to do with the Fallen Star? The first egg room is just after the room with the star enemy with wings that you "defeat" by ringing a bell, making it fall to the ground, which is also soon after that room with the black and white Ballerinas/Ice Skaters with a noticeable crooked leg. Maybe in universe ringing the bell and causing a star to fall triggers repressed memories to start coming to the surface?

>>528770469
A lot of the hype from deltarune died down

>>528771014
Cute
>>528771739
Asrielfags are my favorite fruits. Ralseifags are nice too

So Goodsmile is definitely gonna release a Tenna nendo right? What will he look like?
tbdesu I'd prefer if he got a Nendoroid Doll because they're bigger and more articulated and it would pair well next to the Spamton nendo

>>528771739
I do enjoy raspberries but my real love is strawberries when they're in season and ripe and plump and sweet and juicy

>>528771987
We just don’t know

>>528770384
the chapter ends with a CHAOS DUNK, dude. it's a reference to Barkley, Shut Up And Jam: Gaiden

>>528771894
for the mantle to defeat the knight, you need to do the sword route which does not count as genocide but does seem to count as kills.
the game actively speaks to you about how much of a scumbag you were in ch2, talking into your consicence.

the existance of the shaodw crystal being locked behind what seems to be a 0 hit boss battle or game content that eases into genocide is telling enough that things are no longer black and white here.

we will need these crystals later on.

>>528771894
you get to see everything malius can make by the beginning of chapter 2, twisted sword included
if you're playing the full game at a minimum the sword route would hint at how to start the weird route, and once you've also done that it's just a matter of "huh, wonder what happens if i just get the thorn ring and dip"

What stuff?

So where are the humans?

>>528772158
the dessapearance

>>528772227
Mancountry

>>528771794

I think the Titans are misunderstood. They are not a force of absolute blackness. They're force of the night. Sure it's dark at night, but there's stars, and moon there. The night is also a realm of dreams.

>>528771934
It's decent support for the fallen star being Gaster (fell into his own creation, wingdings hints around it) , but (you) and Dess can also work, it's hard to tell currently.

>>528771934
Fallen star is referring to a celebrity who "fell" and became a nobody. That's where the knight's dark/star typing comes from; whoever the knight is was a big shot and now isn't. Kris has a huge fear of being a nobody and going nowhere in life, it's where the strange "big shot" theme stems from with ramb saying shit like "stay here long enough and you'll learn that freedom is only for big shots"

>>528771894
>keeping the Thorn Ring and crafting the Twisted Sword require some metagaming to even consider doing
that's the idea I think

>>528768984
Kino.
What would Lil' Cal turn into if he got in a Dark World? Straight up just Caliborn?

>>528772227
Elsewhere
Carol pre-denies all human applicants trying to move to Hometown because if Kris is the only potential cage with human parts that makes the prophecy easier to manipulate

>>528772227
They are around
I like to think the city is mostly mixed and humans have no reason to go to some monster majority backwater village

>>528771848
Kris is fine with killing Darkies, but doesn't want to put Berdly in a coma. If nothing else, it'd probably interfere with the Knight's plan if the dark worlds rack up a body count and people get suspicious.

>>528772268
yep,
The titans we see in ch4 are nightmare titans , or alternatively, "monochrome titans" ... Dreams without Hope.

Our angel form will probably be a Gold titan looking thing. Hopes AND Dreams

in ch1 you recruit everyone (except starwalker) no matter what
ch2 gives you sweetcap'n cakes even on snowgrave (also trashy and queen)
ch3 gives you lanino and lanina regardless of what you do
but jack apparently dies if you don't recruit every optional encounter in chapter 4, and gerson/the titan will not join either for obvious reasons
why is chapter 4 the only chapter where you can forgo recruiting anybody

>>528768559
I doubt Snowgrave will lead to anything good though, however funny the best route being the one where Berdly fucking dies, I doubt that's where the game is heading.

>>528772320
>>528772284
yeah it could even be Asriel but I still shy away from the "asriel actually is dead/gone/in the dark world and not at college" theories desu

I’ve been reading pornwha and hentai for the plot unironically.

>>528772260
nope, mancountry is oops! all ruddins
and one eggman!
unless the entire human population in deltarune was reduced to kris and a single mistery man

Weird route:

>>528772578
I stopped believing the "mancountry was a full country of real humans" stuff once I realized it's all just Papyrus jokes

>>528772560
Sans winks and says we'll see papyrus when asriel comes home. If asriel was always home but shying away from his parents it would explain the wink

i personally subscribe to the theory that starwalker is one of the only native denizens of the pure fountain and is way stronger than he lets on

>>528769073
I don't care what you think is good for you Susie, I AM giving you a harem ending.
You are banging the dinosaur
You are banging the deer
and you are banging the fucking bird

>>528772426
I hate those boombox bots like you wouldn't believe.
>literally unkillable unless you act nonviolently
Lanino and Elnina crash the game if you can actually take them down as well.

>>528772562
i like to play porn games and forgo any kind of sexual interaction for as long as possible, trying to see how far you can get into it before you're forced to fuck something to progress

>>528771894
Unlike other anons, I'm pretty sure aborted Snowgrave is not the intended path. I've played it and the way it snaps back to the normal route is just way too jarring to be what you're "supposed" to do. I personally believe that there will be a second opportunity to get a Thorn Ring, maybe in chapter 5 since it's flower-themed, and the early appearance in chapter 2 is meant to be part of the weird route's "sequence-breaking" feeling.

>>528772426
Well Jack would've been the mandatory recruit slot but he gets killed
There's probably going to be some endgame thing where all the Darkners you recruited come together and the forcefully recruited Darkners all get bits that were elaborate enough to not cut or mandatory for logical progression of the scenes

asriel walked in on dess showing kris how to smoke weed

>>528772562
Kris….
>>528772737
Berdley….

>>528772690
Why does he turn to stone in the church dark world?

>>528772332
>its a sword.
>but swords are held by kris
>sword has a trance down effect
>requires some materials that we don't even know how to get.

two things:
>kris will equip it to weaken the influence of someone (maybe us?, maybe someone else) from him.
>THE GIRL WITH HOPE CROSSED IN HER HEART is seen holding a sword.
>maybe if she was to hold it she would not fall to some sort of influence?

>>528772562
Name?

>>528772679
But asriel's Reputation isn't ruined. He's still a big shot according to everyone in town

>>528772158
>"YOU KNOW... ASGORE'S.... THING."
>"HE'S AN ALRIGHT GUY IF YOU DON'T COUNT HIS OBSESSION WITH... YOU KNOW WHAT."
>"I DON'T WANT TO GOSSIP BUT ASGORE SHOULD REALLY STOP FOCUSING ABOUT [RETRACTED] SO MUCH."
At this point, I don't care if Asgore molests kids.

The True Thruple ending:
Susie, Kris, Noelle
Toriel, Asgore, Sans
Berdly, Catti, Jockington
Catty, Bratty, Pizzapants
Undyne, Alphys, Alvin

Toby told me this in a dream.

>>528771450
I want beat Peddles into the dirt with my bare fists.

>>528772845
>>528772690
What if it's one of The knight's save points

explains why it's gold in all the fountains we've seen, but stone in Susie's fountain

Fuck the flowe

>>528772845
because he's retarded

>>528772905
he's making a flowey army and putting them in the trash around town, it's connected to the thorn rings

>“Throuples”

>>528772845
He turns back to normal again, IIRC he's one of the Darkners that helps save Jackenstein by making a big pillar with their bodies.
He's the Original

Starwalker
He can do what ever he wants

>>528772227
Elsewhere. They're likely the majority of the population considering that the Disney version of Beauty and the Beast gets referenced and that story would make no sense if the characters were all monsters.

>>528772918
Berdly x Catti sounds fun actually

>>528773035
Yeah, I don't care. If everyone is going to dance around the issue so hard, they might as well get slaughtered in their sleep.

>>528772850
>you get the last shadow crystal in snowgrave so seam can give you the pure crystal
>kris forces noelle to give them the tornring
>kris rips you off from its body
>kris starts making a beeline towards malius
>you have to outrun that little shit in soul mode before it achieves freedom

>>528768272
Wiffle correction

qrd on babykris?

>Festival Dark World
>Jevil sees a carousel and can't help himself from fucking off for a bit of the chapter

>>528773212
Kris, but smaller

>>528773212

>>528772426
>Titan
Well, you *do* purify the Titan.
>inb4 Ralsei is with a white baby in Ch5 Castle Town

>>528773206
Crazy how she killed him and that's why he now has (you) as a replacement soul. What a bitch.

>>528773212
it's kris, but, like, even more molestable!

>>528772918
none of them can match the power of the inevitable Quadrouple (rouxls, clover)

>>528772158
I think finding Dess is supposed to be too an easy a guess and I'm guessing based on the superhero comics and cowboy show he liked that it actually is being a fan of hero comics and shows, including power rangers and sentai, and it'll show up in the light world segment of chapter 5.

Jackenstein says in his battle dialogue he only shows up on festival night, which could mean it's a Halloween allegory or that a haunted house is part of the festival. Halloween fits the time of year based on the trees, so if we see light world characters dressed up in costume in a fall UT/DR newsletter I'm thinking Asgore will show up in costume as well for a festival that'll act as a county fair, halloween, and maybe the Millennial Fair from Chrono Trigger.

>>528773203
>https://youtu.be/hWWVWfQW1H4?list=RDhWWVWfQW1H4
SORRY KRIS, ITS BIPOLAR DISORDER TIME.

>>528773212
very quick

>>528773212
Evil creature

>>528773487
fuck this got me

>>528773329
>inb4 Ralsei is with a white baby in Ch5 Castle Town
that actually sounds funny
>the previous bosses taking turns with who takes the purified and pacified baby titan for a stroll across castletown

>>528773487
is this how he lost his hand?

>>528772227
underground in the bunker

>>528772320
>a celebrity who "fell" and became a nobody.
could be anyone. mettaton?

>>528773212
they wore diaps

>>528773487
why would asgore/toriel/asriel do that

>>528773487
If Asgore had done this from the stard he'd still be with Tori.

tenna and his they/them son

The true endgame pairing is a quadrouple with (You)/Kris/Susie/Ralsei.

>>528767319
i actually really like toony stuff that exaggerates even already somewhat toony designs like this, but i just can't get into this weird obsession with making susie even MORE weird and big and gross and fugly and disheveled and strangely-shaped and unwashed and so on and so forth, it feels like weird virtue signalling like "see, I would love susie just as much as you guys even if she was EVEN grosser and uglier and weirder"

reminds me of the obsession of virtue signallers drawing black characters ugly as absolute fuck and thinking it's making them come off as a better person rather than an asshole when most black people wanna be drawn not ugly as fuck i imagine

i got stabbed 3 months ago
(totally not self inflicted)
felt like hot water/ wetting myself
im good now, they let me out of a psych ward
i think im okay now

when did kris go from loving tv to hating tv and why does he take it out on poor tenna who only wanted to help

>>528773843
we know, dess

>>528773748
>tfw i can only get her to wear the bow in the TV world when susie switched our controllers.

>>528773843
i remember when i used to want to stab myself a lot

>>528773748
>drawing a scary monster like a scary monster is le sjws at work
you bitches are exhausting

>>528773843
Do it right next time.

>>528768690
>>528770080
Did y'all forget in chapter one everyone mentions that they have to tell Kris to pass along any messages to Asriel because nobody but him can get in touch? Isn't that a bit suspicious?

>>528772845
it was a statue in his honor, he is the real prince from the dark.

>>528773843
You should play Deltarune chapters 3 and 4

>>528773203
Except Kris can't exist in the Dark Worlds without a SOUL.

im such a worthless faggot

>>528773937
>scary monster
False premise.

Susie calls it a tree when you go out of bounds while Tenna's not around at the end of board 2.

>>528773843
>totally not self-inflicted
>anyway on a completely unrelated note: they let me out of the nuthouse!

>>528773984
>Do it right next time.
well i kinda got scared
i mean stabbing is pretty hard on my mental health

How does everyone already know what Dess looks like?

Noelle not existing makes me want to die daily so thanks for that Toby.

>>528774110
scary things can be loveable. that's kind of the point of undertale, most of the monstes would be freaky irl, but are kind.

pov: you are a piece of chalk

>>528774020
It's not suspicious when you consider that Asriel's girlfriend mysteriously disappeared and he probably has bad memories associated with Hometown because of it

hand it over... that thing... your heart shaped object...

>>528773421
Superhero dark world sounds fun

>>528774139
Assuming that she takes more after Rudy.

>>528774139
because we're big brained video game connoisseurs?

>>528767831
this has already been a popular theory for awhile, and it seems viable on the surface but not so much if you think about it more than a little bit. we know now that the 'monster dust' creepy stuff in early ch1 and ch3 is most likely just actual lumps of dust turning into barely-formed proto-darkners and not actual undertale dead monster dust, and more fully-formed globs of dust become actual real darkners like rabbicks and ribbicks. Monsters seem to bleed in the light world and not turn to dust unless they fully die, which as far as we know could just be cremation remains in this world, and even when THAT is animated into a "darkner" it becomes just the actual real lightner alive again temporarily as we see in chapter 4, not some weird semi-doppleganger. We know that when examining the fridge with susie in early ch4 Kris points out numerous differences between Asriel and Ralsei, so Ralsei isn't just literally Asriel 'alive again'. And all signs point to Asriel really being gone for college and not 'lost' or 'fallen down', everyoen's prepared for him to come back soon and there's no evidence he's even secretly come back since then to randomly die in the school storage closet.

It's much more obvious that Asriel and Dess had sloppy crazy teen sex in that closet and Ralsei was formed not from piles of Asriel's dust, but piles of Asriel's cum. He's Asriel Jr., or Asriel II as you can name Onion-san. And you can ship Kris with his own nephew.

>>528773857
>when did kris go from loving tv to hating tv
when dess went missing and it was just a constant reminder of what used to be

>>528774120
I dunno if that's foreshadowing for a weird orange spiky tree that we'll run into later or if it was foreshadowing for the orange Hometown forest trees later in the Sword Route

>>528774139
I saw toby's desk in a dream

>>528774225
That's assuming she actually disappeared and didn't just die in the lake saving Noelle and the latter just repressed her memories of it, in a parallel to Kris' repressed memories.

>>528773843
don't do it again. Take care

>>528774203
imagine being kris and having to receive the most heartfelt moments in your life from a bitch that looks like this

>>528773937
No offense but they can be really bad about extremely noisy designs (vomiting every flag color they can, never just one piercing it needs to be 5, so many clashing colors to give your eyes cancer, etc.).

>>528774120
>>528774389
>Where the Forest Would Grow is actually the Lake because a flood happened

Can't wait for Kris and Dess to perform X-Slash on Susie

>boss literally just texted me about a mandatory meeting he forgot to send reminders about
Should I go or just ignore it and stay home masturbating?

>>528774389
Water guy from Half Life 2's intro energy.
>They put something in it to make you forget.

today i was gonna come late to work but spamton's theme woke me up from my dream

>>528774175
Trve

>>528774363
That one event really did fuck up absolutely everything in this entire town and all these kids' lives forever, huh? If Gaster had just left this one dimension alone it would've been paradise, but no. Gotta get all up in "his Deltarune" for whatever freaky business he intends.o

>>528774624
stay home masturbating ONLY IF the semen is tributed to asriel

Has anyone drawn Ralsei just standing in his empty room all this time when we arent around?

>>528774257
no

>>528774139
it's just fanart anon

back during chp2 some people used to think dess was a dude.

>>528774541
>They'll see the tail of hell take crawl
>Children followed the pointed tail
>Hell's roar bubbles from the depths
>All this snow and ice stuff and the date 12 25, the lake could have been frozen when it happened
I see where you're going with this

>>528774541
The fuck does the Acorn mean Toby

>>528773857
Have you never felt a sense of emptiness from something that used to bring you joy?

maybe it was because you used to enjoy it with someone, maybe something changed with you.
maybe you just became more aware of yourself.

it does not matter, but what matters is that you have lost a bit of yourself.
maybe you miss someone.
maybe you miss something.
maybe you just matured past "enjoying" it.
whatever it is, you will never go back to those days when the sun felt warmer on your skin and the world felt lighter underneath your feet.

try hard drugs. everyone enjoys those!

>>528774598
I need x slash back so bad, Kris dont have anything special

>>528774802
ready for dess to be a FTM?

>>528773206
>beats him so hard with plastic bats there's a goddamn dented one in her room and he can't stop worrying she's gonna hit him over the head even while fighting her as the knight
>still comes back for more every time
this isn't correction at all, it's... degeneration!

>>528774793
yuss

>>528774876
Kris already fills that role

>>528774832
Acorns are tree eggs

>>528774349
>Toby went out of his way to make Kris clearly see Ralsei as different from his brother
>It's still incest
damn it

>>528774257
I wouldn't hesitate for a second.

>>528774104

>>528772339
The lord himself, complete with epileptic 8-ball eyes

>>528774349
>It's much more obvious that Asriel and Dess had sloppy crazy teen sex in that closet and Ralsei was formed not from piles of Asriel's dust, but piles of Asriel's cum. He's Asriel Jr., or Asriel II as you can name Onion-san.


Makes sense to me.

>>528774876
>deltatraveler actually being correct for once
haha no

>>528767831
Chapter 4 basically confirmed Ralsei is some kind of Tulpa made my Kris. Even other Darkners think he's weird

>>528775065
Hot

>>528774538
that's fair, i just feel not drawing susie as a cute barney-daughter isn't automatically bad. cause her design clearly isn't meant to be conventionally approachable in the first place. i'd liken her to one of those bullies in a teen movie.

>>528774689
we don't even know if hometown is real place or some shit gaster stuck together in a lab.

>>528773748
It's just an exaggeration of their features you homo, does Noelle look ugly there? Christ.

>>528771909
haha wouldn't it be funny if the Forgotten Man is just Heats Flamesman

>>528774824
What if the codes represent the date, time, and year of Dess' drowning? Assuming she was on the lake on Christmas, and 2202 is using 24-hour time, so it'd be 10:02 at night? If the unused dialogue is from Dess, then the light she saw could've been the moon.

>>528774876
>Is FTM
>dead
toby really mastered poetic drama.

>>528775216
*Piss-Shitman

>>528774876
>dess took the trans bullet so noelle could be cis
true sister love

>>528775216
isn't he called flames hotman?

>>528775236
if it's somehow 1997 I'm going to fucking lose it

>>528774873
>Kris dont have anything special
Seriously, where is he going with this? Any special abilities aren't unique to Kris, but the Soul, like sealing fountains and unleashing light. Susie takes away anything they could have, like the act ability or the power croissant if you get it first. Their only unique abilities show up with violence, x-slash on weird or the sword on sword route. Is it some deep commentary on how they're only good for being a vessel or violent tool or something?

i still dont think i could tell you why this tiny dipshit warms and wounds my cold lifeless grey heart
it's a fucking video game why am i crying?

>>528774876
Dess will be MtF as a tribute to deltatraveler

glort

>>528775068
Cool. I wonder of he'd be wearing different clothing or not.

>>528775479
Do you see him as an extension of the character with either Ralsei or Deltarune Asriel?

so uh guys.
when will we fight the overpowered chair in susie's room?
>tfw people keep calling it a cuck chair for no fucking reason.

>>528775484
>>528775251
the only character that got explicit hints about potentially being trans is Asriel (smash main surprise)

>>528775574
splort

Is deltarune date 2021 or 2027?
The festival is similiar to halloween and it's a sunday also ralsei manual says 202X

>>528775626
idc about the cuck chair

>>528775251
KEK

>>528775631
explain

>>528775474
Kris sucks at everything other than piano which is why they won't let (You) play since you could potentially upstage them. They also seem good at video games, but (You)'re probably better at that too. Kris just sucks.

How would the mechanics of a cuck chair boss fight even work? It watches you fight someone else?

>>528775696
plap

>>528775703
At this rate its gonna be retconned to 203X

>>528775251
Then why aren't you dead?

>>528775704
but i love my schizobosses.
>appears in the ch3 newsletter
>appears in ralsei's illustration
>is mentioned in the gacha machine
this thing's going to be serious trouble.

wow guys this beta is crazy

https://files.catbox.moe/w3aolv.png
open

Hey niggas what have you eaten so far for dinner or in my case for breakfast no i dont live on a different timezone i just eat late

Kris is a furry

>>528775373
babymaking faggotmachine

>>528775925
don't call ralsei that

>>528775890
unfortunately i am just ugly, not trans.
however fortunately my outside beauty reflects inner beauty.

>>528775857
You have to fight your own party members while it watches

>>528776021
I treated myself with Pizza Hut cause fuck it, basic pepperoni and sausage

>>528775621
I don't know how Ralsei or DR Asriel are supposed to tie back into UT Asriel if at all. I don't think we have enough of the game to come to any conclusion.

>Kris when he finds out he’s being piloted by a 28 year old mexican

Why does Toriel think Kris is a friendless loser?
He seems to have a pretty good relationship with all the other kids in the town basing on the dialogue

>>528776021(me)
i for instance i'm eating bread with omelette or however its written

>>528775962
This is (LightWorld) Kris with their hand down their pants, masturbating to thoughts of Ralsei.

>>528773748
You're getting too twisted over the school bully being drawn like the school bully archetype.

>>528776187
She's neglectful.

>>528775474
Susie likely will learn to how to close dark fountains with her HOPE, and Ralsei will start to use his fire magic for high dpt. The cage with human SOUL and parts will become obsolete.

>>528776187
dumb asocial weak hummy child could never have real monster friends

>>528776156
i see

>>528775853
t. vessel/gaster

>>528775809
we haven't seen Asriel and the Tenna Quiz surprises you by intentionally revealing that his smash main was the female sword magician, not the yoshi.

Could also just be referncing his relationship with Dess though who , if being the knight is a sword magician of sorts

>>528776187
Either because Toriel has no idea about his social life or maybe he is kind of a loner despite being in good terms.

>>528776187
Because, before the internet outage, Kris needed to be walked to school daily and apparently never spoke to anyone and also kept going online to talk to Asriel all the time.

>>528775474
According to the Mantle boss Kris has (had?) violent tendencies and liked kill enemies for EXP types of games, and for Kris and the Knight's co-operation to make sense Kris must already have been familiar with Dark Worlds before chapter 1
What do you suppose a child with violent tendencies who thinks a Dark World is just make-believe would do in there

>>528776324
The human SOUL can dodge.

Such a King at this moment that his portrait forgot his right arm was disabled

>>528776021
i'm about to eat cheese & ham pasties and i had homemade chocolate milk w cookies this morning c:

>>528776335

>>528776021
gonna make chopped liver with curry
hope it comes out good

>>528776187
People like Kris fine but they're not really in contact with people outside of the bare minimum anymore
Susie talks about how friendless Kris is in one of the chapter 3 dialogues so it's not just Toriel

>>528776351
It's okay. Even though Kris sucks, I am still going to forcibly redeem them through the power of friendship once I get my real vessel back. Whether they like it or not.

Do you think it's an intended reference or just a coincidence?

>>528776503
It seems his left hand in that portrait

>>528776519
it ain't fair man...

>>528776324
Kris can be the bard
>>528776351
Definitely vessel, Gaster thinks Kris is very, very wonderful.

>>528776361
why isn't the thought boobie coming off from kris though

>>528776386
>he gives you this smug look when he realizes you want him

noelle speaks french in canon

>>528776551
don't forget to soak your liver in milk for a while

>>528776635
Does Seam have Tenna's fan mail on the right shelf there?

Either I'm unlucky or fandom culture has gotten a lot more tainted by irony and an unwillingness to genuinely enjoy things.

>>528776635
There's a lot of evidence that Dess and/or Asriel made Seam

>>528776635
Intentional

>>528776548
I really like when artist draw Kris armor like it's latex or a wet suit

>Kris used to be close friends with Noelle but stopped hanging out after what happened with Dess
>After Kris left Noelle by herself Berdly took their place, even renaming the cactus named "Krismas" to "Tsuntsun"
>The first thing you do on weird route is make Kris give Noelle an evil brainwashing wedding ring and then tell her to kill Berdly, Kris is said to have partially enjoyed this
Hmm

>Dess wants to crackle with freedom but her mom doesn't let her

>>528776672

>>528776635
There's probably only so many ways to draw a sword anon

asriel dreemurr? more like hyper dreamy~~
lmao gottem

>>528776819
ah, all the known pieces in chess
>king
>queen
>knight
>bishop
>flower
>knife

>>528776728
Cool, french is a really cute language when girls speak it

>>528776519
>>528776335
That's pretty good.

>>528776920
i dont think kris enjoys you hurting berdly, hes annoying but they seem to be friends at least.
and kris goes and gets berdly to the hospital and trys to keep him well heated of his own inititive

>Weird route
>Kris acts like a miserable fuck as you try to kill their friends
>Normal route
>Kris acts like a miserable fuck as you try to stop thie attempts to kill their friends
Pick a lane you freaky kid. This is why nobody likes you.

>>528777082
>>528776819
I think Asgore is more likely to be a pawn than a rook.

>>528776519
Cute, but I still don't get why Carol would keep her daughter trapped in the shelter.

>>528776519
>>528776648
These are sweet, but I'm thinking that Dess isn't going to be so nice once we really find her.
She's going to be like Flowey was. Her time in the Dark fucked up her mind and made her merciless.

That's one part of many why I think the voice in the Sword Route games is Dess. It's the same kind of cruel and dark world view as Flowey presented in Undertale.

>>528776946
>Daughter, only I am allowed to crackle with freedom!

>>528777007
>gets fucked
lol

>>528776861
>incredibly detailed horse sprite
this is where chapter 3's dev time went

>>528777082
It's funny how that one map both confirms and debunks chess theory

>>528776861
how is ralsei doing this

Deltarune's normal route is about telling Kris Dreemurr to stop fucking around get their damn life in order

>>528777291
>>528777007
who is this emo goat?
this fuck isnt even in the game
stop this fanfiction shit

>>528776792
Yeah, it's certainly building up that way.

Which also then feeds into the theory that Seam and Friend could be connected. Either fully being the same or that Friend is mean to look like how Seam originally looked.

>>528777239
i'm fully expecting her to be an edgy nihilist myself, but at the point of the story we're at now it's nice to at least pretend they'll have/had a happy reunion

>Dess is lost in the game code
>Go into folder
>Drag Dess.obj from Purgatory folder to Main Game folder
>Crisis resolved

>>528776861
just learned you can jump in this minigame, although it's useless afaik

>>528777103
Perhaps, the reason they're a miserable fuck is beyond the scope of (our) presence.
>>528777437
Shapeshifter

>>528777324
It will all be worth it when we re-unlock Ralsei Rancher in our Castle Town

what's the chess theory deltarune equivalent of en-passant, castling and queen's gambit

>>528776021
coffee and cookies

Reminder to abort snowgrave route before we kill noelle so you have the true doending

>>528777451
People forget that Hyperdeath Asriel is actually maximum dweeb-pilled and not a super hot femboy.

*punches kris's stupid face*

>>528777103
Your job is to make them less miserable no matter how hard they try to stop you, good luck

>>528777649
I dunno if we're gonna be able to finagle our way out of Using Noelle up, that jingle seemed pretty final

>>528776861
The furries are having a field day with this....

>>528777705
t. anyone in this fucking game

>>528777649
You had your chance to abort already, anon

>>528774139
i thought it was very early to assume things up to recently since we hadn't seen what Carol looked like and for all intents and purposes Dess could've been a fucked up Gyftrot or half-gyftrot or something, but with the new chaps not only do we see Carol is a (mostly) normal deer-person too but there is a very normal looking silhouette of dess in the tv flashback, plus we get to see all her clothes and accessories in chapter 4 directly, so it's VERY easy to assume exactly how she looks now, only real question is hair color i guess but since Carol/Noelle are blonde and visual balance in a similar-looking family is nice, she most likely matches Rudy's hair color, which the vast majority of fanart already depicts

>>528777528
Mike, is this real?

>>528777679
>super hot femboy.
that would be this guy
pic related

>>528777649
>we keep predicting you have to abort snowgrave at reasonable points for it to work out in the future
>the actual answer is DON'T KILL NOELLE FOR NO REASON LIKE A TARD

>Wow, Susan
>I can't believe Kris and the Knight just backstabbed your ass

>>528777532
>just remembered we were promised outfit customization in chapter 2
>ralsei rancher will never be real

ramb=rook (denied chance, knight took too long, whereabouts unknown)
gerson=bishop (denied, uninterested)
chess theory still alive, baby

>>528777779
the ammount of ralsei horse donut porn i've seen is astounding

>>528777649
>>528777771
>before we kill noelle
It's just a little ego death, her body will be fine. More or less.

>>528777649
You cannot stop the kings chariot

>>528777239
Even then, she goes easy on Kris in their fight.

>>528776187
because they stopped hanging out with people a while ago and she noticed that. all their friends mention that they became distant at some point.

>>528777103
LMFAO

>>528777103
Anon this is just angsty teenager behavior
Remember that Kris is the adopted child and had to watch an apparently very hard divorce all while dealing with the trauma of whatever happened in the woods
I doubt Toriel really knew how to deal with all this shit on her own either

>>528777821
It's not

>>528777814
>pic
Holy fuck finally a cute Dess.

>>528777814
still massively dessappointed in toby for not making them gyftrots

>>528777902
The thing that makes me seethe is the shelves specifically labelled for keepsakes that you can't collect any keepsakes for. Maybe when the second timeloop releases in 2035...

>>528777649
There's no way aborting snowgrave in chapter 4 dont make play something like neutral route, you killed Berdly for nothing in that timeline

Why is Noelle such a silly?

>>528777484
I don't get why everyone thinks "UNUSED" has to be actually concurrent with the time of the game.
If it is Dess, she went missing years ago. The UNUSED text starts from the person first finding themselves lost. Feels much more likely that it's a flashback/history of her time in the Dark.

>>528777098
The thing in the Mantle game that knows Kris well enough to want to see their eyes flickering red again said that a part of Kris enjoyed Snowgrave, especially because they could say it wasn't really them doing it, and in the chapter 4 egg room we go to an art therapy session where "we don't kill people"
If all the dialogue options we get are Kris's ideas and the Weird Route options are things a part of Kris wants to do but also hates themselves for thinking about then everything checks out

why do people assume that noelle's going to be in the next chapters dark world again?
is it really just because there's unused dialogue? why would they include that for a chapter that's not out especially as each chapter is it's own game so there'd be no need to have it ready in the code.

>>528778168
You can warm him up though, so there's an option to potentially save him.

>>528778295
She acts innocent but she literally is a freak, she literally told Susie she HAD to walk behind her and kept looking at her ass in Chapter 2.

She's the deltarune equivalent of a horsegirl.

anyone can traslate

>>528778295
Severe emotional suppression

>>528778386
>someunholy abomination starts puppeting your body around and making you into the worst version of yourself against your will
damn that actually somehow makes snowgrave even WORSE for kris

>Kris starts laughing before the chapter 3 credits roll

>>528778358
We went too meta, you have to dig in the game's code to find it so people figured the origin is similarly meta. It is probably a flashback.

>>528778458
>She's the deltarune equivalent of a horsegirl.
you don't think they actually want to fuck the horses, right?
...RIGHT?!

>>528778440
You still killed some monsters for nothing, I dont know if you can save them

>>528778295
>>528778458
noelle has a lot of repressed sexuality. and anger. and grief.
really, noelle has done nothing but repress her baggage since dess died.

>>528778386
Are we sure that the Mantle game is always talking about Kris and not the player? I still think that the sewer level is an abstraction of the genocide route in Undertale.

>>528778614
It's okay, they're not real

>>528778358
Because Spamton says in real time "Help" while in the glitch mode. So The Lost Girl is still lost

>>528778660
The lines about a sour face and the red lights read as if it's reacting to Kris' expression.
>>528778575
What the fuck?

>>528778605
I'm saying Noelle seems nice but they behave wild whenever they can get away with it, she simps so hard for Susie.

>>528776970
YOU ARE SO FUCKING LUCKY I DO NOT LIVE IN YOUR WALLS TO FUCKING CHOKE-SLAM YOU INTO A NIOH/MINECRAFT/FINAL-FANTASY BASED DARK FOUNTAIN YOU ABSOLUTE ANIMAL! FUCKING BRING RALSEI ALONG SO THAT HE CAN HEAL YOU WHEN I START SHOVING THEM UP YOUR ASS!

>>528778660
>The same part of you that enjoyed yesterday.
>Knowing you could say it wasn't really you.
I don't think it makes sense to say this about the player when you're the one pulling the trigger and Kris is the one who can say "it wasn't really me"
At least I don't think there's any player out there that did Snowgrave and thought "Damn Kris is crazy why did they do that"

>>528778539
It's going to get worse too
Kris might not have really cared about Berdly but sooner or later (you) are going to kill or at least coma someone Kris really loves.

>>528778775
>yokai watch reference in 2025
it persists

>>528778775
dont know how to explain it but that Susie sprite is the most accurate art of her i ever saw. even if its pretty much tracing over an expression she has in the game.

>>528778653
>sexually repressed
>expresses herself in the most annoying way possible
>makes oppressing her feel gratifying.

>>528778358
yeah i never understood it, especially the poeple who think that UNUSED is proof that dess can't be the knight
you have to presume the dialogue is dess AND is happening concurrently AND she was just completely unaware of herself for like half a decade until randomly starting to question where she is now

>>528777484
OneShot in a nutshell

>>528778840
It's the "part of you" bit, specifically. It works for Kris saying "the player made me do it" but also the player saying "the game let me do it." It also depends on whether Kris even knows what the shadow crystals are and what they're called.

>>528778358
>chapter 3 dialogue
Hm

Dess is lost within the Knight and she is Kris's friend.
A... "FRIEND INSIDE" if you will

Spamton? me

kris already lost the only other true gamer in the town dont make him lose anyone else

Hello?

>>528779217
I will kill pizzapants. Don’t try and stop me

>>528779169
>Friend inside me

>>528778978
Oneshot was kind of neat and I got really into where it was going initially but I felt underwhelmed by the end.

>>528777572
>en-passant
Kris backstabbing Susie
>Castling
The Knight summoning a Titan (a big stone tower or Rook if you will) early to act as the area boss (or king) and run away
>Queen's Gambit
Double Trucies

>>528778358
>Then the door slams behind me.
>And everything goes black.
So the Knight is the one who slammed the door behind Susie and Kris in Chapters 1 and 2 right?
I've not seen anyone mention it but it's the only logical takeaway.

>>528778295
>>528778458
Don't forget about how she takes a water bottle to school, but saw Susie using the drinking fountain and just *had* to get in on that after her.

>>528768428
crying won't undoe you

>>528779292
NO THATS HIS MALE ROLE MODEL FIGURE NOOOOOO

Dumb question but is Toby the only big indie rpg creator to actually make a new game? I dont know if Off, omori, one-shot, lisa and others actually made other games

>>528778940
I love faithful art.

>>528778519
>[First panel]
>I heard from Kris that it's you, Spamton!
>How could you ditch me! You goddamn spam mail bastard!
>[Second panel]
>How nice you've become tiny like nice because I've got a mountain's worth of stuff I wanted to say to ya.
>[Third panel]
>I've really got a lot I want.
>A lot I want to tell ya...
>[Fourth panel]
>Please don't go anywhere, Spamy...

>>528779292
* Lie and pretend you care

>528779464
>can't even name the creators
kys

>>528779464
Lisa is a series of games. Though I don't know if the creator still does gamedev after going insane.

>>528779217
I will make Kris blow up Catty with a stick of dynamite
No more cat babe kisses for you

Fish I wish

>>528779434
It's kinda interesting that if you use the water fountain multiple times it gets colder.

The Woody shit is funny but Creative Freedom is legitimately a banger and the creator should use that character elsewhere outside of just being Deltarune fan content.

Asriel is in the bunker
>prince from the DARK
>Kris would obviously work with him no questions asked
>has a hidden browser history Kris won't show (you) in chapter 2, just like Kris won't turn the doorknob in chapter 4 after the church has been rid of its dark fountain
>has motivation to open fountains if searching for the lost December
>cutaway shows knight outfit is just that, an outfit, so the antlers are part of it
>removes the helmet and Kris immediately cuts away
>analogue for Earthbound Claus fight when Toby is a hack who loves ripping things off
>Tenna says he switched to playing as the sword magician (notably a female character, similar to the knight)
>has the same blurring effect as the final Asriel fight in Undertale
>laugh very reminiscent of Flowey's
Anything else obvious I'm missing here? I feel like it has to be him.

im eating cheese & ham pasties
they're quite good

>>528779464
Everhood 2 came out
I dunno if Everhood 1 is BIG big but it's somewhat popular in the indie game crowd

>>528779665
Because you're waking up the cold in the water, dumbass.

>>528779642

>>528779642
noelle getting raped by kris is okay as long as susie is there raping her too

>>528779636
she'll probably die, you know that, right?

I LOVE TENNA!!! I LOVE TV!!!
also my keychains arrived and one other thing i will post separately soon...

>>528779464
Oneshot creator had a successful kickstarter for another game last year. I think there's a demo available

>>528779763
no clearly the water fountain is magic

>>528777451
>tertiary using the same character as the emo goat who never played undertale is bitching

>>528779532
Wow...so cute and romantic. Thank you!

https://soundcloud.com/directed-by-dreams/freakshow

>>528777451
Secondary?
>b-but he didn't actually look like th-
He's in the game and not fanfiction, so your point is null. Stop being a retard

>>528779757
If Deltarune ends like Everhood 2, Toby's safety will be at risk.

>>528779894
where did you get these made

>>528779894
So cute!!! Where did you get the first one?

>>528779894
I love how autistic this community is, you guys are alright sometimes, don't come to the Festival tomorrow

>>528780036
I love this guy art so much, even with it being OOC

>>528777532
Cool ranch is better, right? Anon?

>>528780036

>>528779894
cute!

>>528780131
I have come to accept and appreciate how Everhood 2 ends
Probably because I really like Shade

>>528779689
I think people want to force Asriel into the plot unnecessarily when he's already doing enough for Kris's character without actually being on screen.
And thematically he serves as the one example of actually moving on instead of becoming an obsessed conspiracy theorist like his father, a recluse like his little brother or an overly horny doe with severe memory repression like his missing ex's younger sister.
It does not have to be him.

>>528780173
Eram is so hot

>>528780324
The problem with that sort of thing is
>Asriel
>moving on
Literally that's the thing he struggles with the most in UT as Flowey. He can't move on from Chara and defines his entire life around them.

>>528780456
This isn't Undertale.

>>528779381
Did you play to the true ending (Solstice)?

>>528780324
>I think people want to force Asriel into the plot unnecessarily when he's already doing enough for Kris's character without actually being on screen.
Asriel is 100% involved in the plot anon. Minimally he was there when December disappeared, if we're going off the hints in the story and the ARG.

>thematically he serves as the one example of actually moving on instead of becoming an obsessed conspiracy theorist like his father
Asgore has a piece of the black shard. He isn't some crazy conspiracy theorist. It's clear nobody believes him because he saw some crazy dark world shit related to December's disappearance, but that's the thing: he's RIGHT.

>>528780529
Yes

>>528779689
I hate that Asriel being the Knight makes sense because I don't knog if I want the main bad guy to just be that doofus again

RAUGHHHH STOP MAKING KRIS HURT PEOPLE AND HATE HIMSELF

>>528778575
Little fucking bastard

>>528780497
But the characters are still basically the same at their core, retard. The game is literally beating your head in with this over and over

I just woke up, checked the magma, loved seeing all the new work on there. Spamtenna marriage drawing is peak

>>528778149
>you can't collect any keepsakes
You can though. You can get Susie's statue and Ice-E statue in Chapter 2, A Tenna Statue in Chapter 3 and a Ladder and Couch Cushion in Chapter 4.

>>528780173
Manhandling Mantle's Manhole

>>528778575
THAT LITTLE SHIT
I KNEW HE WAS GETTING [Hyperlink Blocked] IN THERE
ASSHOLE!!!

>>528780134
>>528780167
aliexpress, just search "tenna" and there should be a couple of results, i picked the ones that I knew would arrive within 2 weeks
>>528780182
>don't come to the Festival tomorrow
o-ok...but what if i wanna
>>528780284
thanks, there are two more keychains that should arrive soon as well

>>528780603
I will make Kris tell Catti that they only hung out with her to use her and left because her stupid magic wasn't real and that they've been making fun of her behind her back for years and years

>>528780591
The knight isn't the main bad guy.

>>528779891
She'll just end up in the hospital since she's frozen like Berdly

>>528778575
>>528780713
why is kris such a profressional doe-wooer?

>>528779891
I know that
She died in Undertale after all
She even died in some of my nightmares
I think I need a drink

>>528780731
I wonder if aliexpress will produce a tenna plushie like their deformed goblin spamton

>>528780753
>this is an option
>Kris will actually make it harsher than your choice implied

>>528780173
CAUTION! This character's identity and gender are unknown at this time, fondle this ass at your own risk

>>528778575
I will see their NB bussy dead until the end of the game.

>>528779217
The only gamer Kris needs is (Me)

>>528779689
>>528780591
The answer is right in front of you

The knight is a Dessriel Amalgamate

>>528780352
U
t.
g

>>528780125
>I can vividly recall the moment when I fought him all those years ago
My heart... OH MY GOD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA3Ks8NLS-Y&list=RDHA3Ks8NLS-Y&start_radio=1&ab_channel=TobyFox-Topic

>>528780868
>tenna plushie like their deformed goblin spamton
yep...probably in a month there will be offers with the deformed plushies...i'll buy it

>>528780607
Asriel in Undertale never reached adulthood. I think it's a bit hasty to assume the personality flaw he had as a child will remain true in Deltarune.

>>528778946

>>528780897
after how she talked to susie? i wouldn't doubt it

>>528780930
How does a disembodied heart play videogames?

your final challenge: watch this in it’s entirety
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kq_gkOs3Y4

>>528780897
>Kris says something so mean and out of pocket that even Susie has to step back and go "What the fuck is wrong with you dude"
I can see this happening for real

Kris in Deltarune is peak LTN blackpill. Silent, no agency, stuck in a normie town with no halo. Puppeted by Chads and Stacies, no escape from the script. Toby Fox spitting truth: if you’re sub-HTN, life’s just a soulless cope.

>>528780125
>He's in the game
Is he? Where can I find him then? What are some of his lines? Any screenshots?

>>528781195
HTN? Hypertension?

who would win?
>Roaring Knight (full power)
>Captain Strong (Super Ultra Mambo-Tango-Foxtrot Martial Arts)

>>528767831
Why would Ralsei be anything from Asriel directly? His character development is about being his own person, and Kris even hates when people compare the two- either for personal reasons or for their investment in Ralsei’s self esteem. Asriel isn’t even dead. He’s off at college, and literally nothing in the story has indicated otherwise.

He’s either going to be a tulpa made by Kris, or a special darkner made by the prophecy’s writer (Gaster or whoever it will turn out to be).

>replaying chapter 2, with mods
>trying to do the new ass route
>tasque manager keeps suffocating me with her ass until i die
literally how are you supposed to get past her? stupid game.

>>528781420
what mod is the ass route

Boy I sure am glad I've never hurt myself in any way

>>528780864
sorry man, you know i don't mean to piss on you.
the shard foretells a dark fate for your hero.

>>528781501
HEY PATRICK!

>>528779894 (me)
HE'S HEREEEEE, FOR REAL THIS TIME, ON A PILLOW!
IN HIS FULL GLORY AND ALL...TV MAN, THE NUMBER ONE!!!
I'm so happy right now, genuinely happy

>>528780131
>Gaster: I just really like battles

Wait, Frisk is possessed by both Red Soul and Chara? Isn't that a bit too much for one dude to handle?

>>528781632
You need to get cologne that you think he'd wear and spray it on the pillow for the full experience

>>528779090
Kris works for the knight. Knight's blade (somehow) drops a Shadow Crystal.
>>528781632
Looks nothing like Mr. Ant Tenna

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59775913/chapters/172637635?view_adult=true

>>528779689
It's DECEMBER nothing else makes sense

>>528781719
I hate off model fanart too but that absolutely looks like him.

>>528781701
Player does not exist in Undertale. Red Soul is Frisk's soul.

>>528781256
>Any screenshots?
I literally posted one, you subhuman 30IQ retard

>>528781701
nothing is too much for our strongest soldier
miss that lil fella

>>528781803
>>528779689
I think whoever cracks the code of how all the loose plot elements tie together will figure out the knight's identity.

>>528781632
Very nice, anon

>>528781632
God. I hope i can get mine soon....hngnnggngn

>>528781880

>>528781885
Deltarune?

>>528780632
But none of those appear on the shelves specifically labelled as being for keepsakes

>>528780897
I can see it

>>528781467
i made it up, i was just joking

>>528782027
>/utg/ - Undertale/Deltarune General
>Undertale
God you're even stupider than I thought.

>>528778575
>>528778840
>>528780713
>>528780849
>>528780910
This is blatant misinformation. Kris doesn't use the laughing sprite in the ending at all. They stand there totally still after stepping back when the door cracks open.

>>528782009
>said the fan of "third entity" theory

>>528781632
WROW!!!!! I'm happy for you, enjoy! Hug him close at night so he doesn't get lonely :)

>>528781885
No you posted a screenshot from Undertale. I'm asking for a screenshot from Deltarune. I know you seem to be struggling with this but they are actually different games.

>>528782119
>>528781420
thats rookie btw

>>528781501
Head needs to be longer

>>528781120
By possessing a teenager

>>528780591
toby absolutely will make that nigga the final boss two games in a row

any fanfic recs?

heh

>>528781715
Eau de Ozone for that fresh CRT aroma