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>Previous thread>>529427252
The day I made my steam page public I fully expected to get 8 wishlists and realize I fucked up everything
My game now sits at 1500+ wishlists
>decompiles your godot game and resells it with a different name
nothing personnel kid
>>529496821>>decompiles your godot game and resells it with a different name>nothing personnel kid
>>529497084how do I solve this...
>Arisu's reaction when she plays my game
>>529497141>the looks she gives you after you ask to be unlocked after a month caged
>>529448147I hope you'll include a sandbox mode where you can just place stuff to smash it
I won't make a game in Godot because Mr. Boss spent all his time babysitting me to show me how to make an assetflip in Unreal instead of teaching me Godot, so I simply can't.
I must always follow best coding practices even though they are actually terrible.
I asked for a pay raise again and they offered to buy pizza if we did unpaid overtime again instead
>>529497257>you better work on that game
I plan to first write the complete lore for the game, then I will write the script with all the cut scenes and the levels.
Only after that i am actually going to start developing the game, pre production must be completed at 100% before the start of development; what do you think about this plan?
>>529497141built for hokage
>>529497587Yeah, Eric is also a world-class composer, what of it?
>>529496814What game? And congrats that's awesome.
I am getting shit DONE for demo day. Look at this skeleton having the time of his life with that broom.
>>529497680>he doubles downbrb, gotta steal some tunes from 90's games, it's a tobymaxxing
https://files.catbox.moe/mmna4f.mp4
>>529497881why have 3d debug text? kek
been gone for a while, we still bitemeposting?
>>529498021>brb, gotta steal some tunes from 90's games, it's a tobymaxxingGo ahead, but we all know you won't.
>>529498021isn't Toby Fox a jew?
>>529498121I wont because I have integrity
>>529498127he definitely looks and acts like one
>>529498331>I wont because I have integrity
>>529496720 (OP)Stat screen is Kinda working, UI still looks like dogshit but meh, still need to add race traits so i'm going to be cribbing from fallouts traits stuff, i really don't like doing UI stuff, but actually clobbering something together feels nice
do we still have the progress bot?
>>529498102I'll turn it into a billboard after demo day, okay? Don't be mean to me.
>>529498662where's the game
>>529498256> techbro CEO is my LORD
>>529498687I'll be more gentle next time
>accidentally went --hard on my git reset when I was going to go --soft
there goes the function I spent 10 minutes to write
>>529498385>integrity is a foreign concept for Toby Fox fanshocking
>>529498752this but unironically
can't wait to live in Thiel's ĖķcĖķoĖķrĖķpĖķoĖķ ĖķhĖķeĖķlĖķlĖķhĖķoĖķlĖķeĖķ liberal paradise
>>529498698goddamnit, my recorders being weird and it's like 30 degrees and i'm melting, one sec
>>529498958>Aggytard unironically thinks he has integrityAnyway....
Is outer wilds really a time loop game?
let me explain.
Time limits existed well before of that. Time limit is equivalent to a death in a permadeath game. it's simply a rule that forces you to restart.
Time loop means you retain the information of your past life of the time reversed. But it's the exact same way in permadeath games or time limit games. you, the player, get better through multiple attempts and retaining information. So the time loop means nothing, except for the fancy animation that puts you back at the starting point and pretends your in-universe character is in on the secret, along with you, the player. it bears no other effect other than the launch code.
Can one tiny piece of forced-rpg element make the difference? Nah. All games might as well be time loops.
Trying to figure out the right scale and size for everything
>>529499218Oh yeah I forgot about this, feels like years
>>529499175>reverse no true scotsmaninteresting self own
Added the solar sail asset to the game, a few bug correction too
>>529499243This is only going to be funny if you repost it exactly 22 minutes from now.
>>529499243Unfortunately the only way to experience true time loop is a lobotomize run. You simply lobotomize yourself a little bit every time you hit the loop. It was in the manual, you should read them.
>>529496720 (OP)nobody ever drew me fanart...
>>529499342What's your Game?
>>529499314Your background looking better than literally every other single thing in your game is too clashy and ultimately gonna be your downfall. Everything looks like a cheap flash game from the early 2000s.
>>529499342That's probably a good thing.
>>529499342only the worst games get fanart. It's called a consolation prize. these fags love to talk about how there's no participation throphies in game development but this place pretty much runs on that whole model
following a blender animation course from grant abbitt and he's so much better than the french alive course guy, people recommend the french guy everywhere but he's a fucking horrible teacher his accent and voice makes it impossible to focus and not fall asleep and he doesn't explain things well
Are there any good courses for more advanced animation i can follow after i finish this one?
>>529498113No we FUCK skeletons in here, quick grab one!
>>529499719This.
>>529499752Idk man I just look at tutorials when I can't figure something out myself and I know what to look for.
>>529499752Just watch some of those "how to make minecraft animation" tutorials.
>>529498021I thought this was going to be a retarded meme, of pure coincidences that sound vaguely similar, but he really outright stole the best parts of the songs lmao.
>>529499342could be worse, someone drew fanart but it was of the NPC and not my main character
like bruh
>>529500528make you're MC more appealing
>>529500528lol that happens to me all the time. Usually means they didn't play the game
>>529500528>it was of the NPC and not my main characterthat should tell you something...
>>529500220The Japanese were okay with it because its a standard practice in Japanese game studios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0SuIMUoShI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5ef_KAZlY
>>529500528ichi the killer...
>>529500625that they didn't play the game?
>>529500528>got fanart>its pornNice
>>529500707But it's wrong when Palworld does it with completely new art and music direction.
>>529500707>Miyamoto is a hackanother nepobaby exposed
>>529500808>they didn't play the gameThat should tell you something....
>>529501120that they didn't have time to play all 60 games?
>>529498662fuck it obs is being annoying and the thing i usually use to get webms won't save the file, here's a screen shot, easy and hardcore mode only allow for one roll of stats (4d6 drop lowest and 3d6 respectively) while normal and pussy let you swap between rolled stats, that, switching between portraits, and name entry all currently work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKK3ksgRqkI
in a just world they would have peak's reviews and sales, also israel wouldnt exist
>>529500595>>529500625she's already a babe, idk what else to do
>>529501060I mean he literally didn't do shit. Ghosts N Goblins was released before Mario and had tonnes of different stuff, bosses, level design.
Pac Land came out even before and had already invented most of these tropes.
https://youtu.be/yvHPE20pPPo?t=859
>>529501560HOLY FUCK JUST LOOK AT THIS SHIT:
https://youtu.be/yvHPE20pPPo?t=1074
They literally did everything.
>>529501560>Ghosts N Goblins was released before MarioWhat is Mario Bros. (1983)?
>>529501560>he can go leftwow
>>529501560Originality is overrated.
>>529501645https://youtu.be/VCl5Fclcgz8?t=123
>>529501645a single screen arcade game like donkey kong
>>529501120...that people play games in genres that appeal to them regardless of quality. I'm sure Bloodborne is a fine game but I'm never ever ever playing it
>>529501645https://youtu.be/VCl5Fclcgz8?t=123
>>529501731Look at the levels themselves. He can drive a car, double jump, glide, drown in water instead of falling offscreen, etc
>>529501984Is she a Japanese racoon dog?
>>529501984you know i gave the benefit of the doubt to the "bocchi" posting but now its very clear that its just one guy forcing a character xhe likes here for no reason
the funniest part is janny tranny doing nothing about it
>also working on mecha game
>>529500707Good inspo actually. If the Japanese (which I venerate) do it, I too shall follow their example.
>>529502285I'm thinking of starting one.
>>529502251it's some mentally ill retard on the level of cris ritualposting due to somy psychosis or OCD obsession. it's too off-topic and too regular and too recognizable to be accidental.
>>529502285>another anon working on a doomed indie genre*rubs hands manically*
I can do it, it's everyone else who can't and won't put the effort in to match me.
Anyone have any info on how bad/good it is to release in the immediate period before/after a steam sale?
>>529502251he likes the attention, ignore him and he will fade away like every retard before him
>>529502528if your game is new, it won't be on sale and people who want to play your game won't expect it to be for awhile
steam sales are so frequent that the before/after isn't a big deal, but I would guess prefer before a sale, since after a sale they'll be playing the games they bought
i was working in the gun's mechanics but end up making mating season mechanics, as you can see the male is trying to woo the female
>>529502528before is probably fine, right after is horrible because everyone delays it until then without thinking that everyone else is doing that too
11th is pretty shit for this reason too
>>529502285who the fuck does that? who the fuck even says shit like that???
>>529502285it better not be another first person mechwarrior like I stg
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uh oh, loony troony
>>529502912it's not first person but Turn-based tactics
hoola hoop based combat
in VR
We should start killing mechdevs on sight
>>529502862is this porn? for shame
>>529503207>tacticsreply SHOO SHOO TACTICS CURSE to break the curse and allow your game to be finished
>>529503383what happened to other people working on tactics games?
>>529503260I would pay to watch jon blow play this
>>529503471They were destroyed!
>>529503263Why, what is your problem with mecha devs?
>>529502862Wow, he's just like me...
>>529503571there's too many of you and you're collectivizing like a mafia to make things worse for everyone else here
>>529503471every single one gave up. check https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/ no tactics games...
>Creates a game in Godot in a few months to learn the engine
>Becomes a millionaire and has a merch deal
Never nodev.
>>529503662>there are too many devs>in AGDGHAHAHAHA
>>529503729his previous 5 games were not godot?
based and greek yogurtpilled
>>529490484
>>529503714I have trust in myself to not scope creep
>>529503890He used Unity until the fiasco happened then he switched to Godot.
I ain't cut out for this jobby, I'm in way ova my head here.
How did old games like the snes Final Fantasy games and Chrono Trigger do cutscenes?
>>529503993What are you "cut out" for?
>>529503993name the last thing you did, it can't be all that hard
>>529503268modified glass material
2 layer slime mesh
fresnels everywhere
anime outline
>>529502285>mechacoward's choice
go full robot or bust
>>529503974so did they...
>>529503996https://github.com/everything8215/ff4/blob/main/cutscene/cutscene.asm
>>529503729This game is multiplayer, peer-to-peer, similar to Webfishing, and was also made in Godot. Why didn't it have the same IP leak hacking issues? The game files can be just as easily decompiled.
>>529498662What game is this?
I think I found the objectively most miserable amount of wishlists to have using analysis and scientific studies.
It's 3000 to 5000. Not bad enough you can just release it and not care, but not good enough you're guaranteed success.
It's like following a rainbow to a pot of ... POOP.
>>529505003even 30k is not enough sometimes...
>>529428130>>529428225>>529428291yes, sardines are good. you have to not get the cheap 50c can ones, those are trash and have no fat i.e. are not even healthy, if you get the $1.50 cans of sardines those are good and you put them into noodle soups so basically you get the noodles packet, in a bowl with water microwave it until soft, strain the water mix in the flavour packets if it has dired vegetables ya dun goofed choose a better noodles next time but chuck em in anyway, then you can put some hot sauce, ketchup, mustard sauce, mayo, fried egg, and then the strained can of sardines (always get sardines in spring water, never oil, they put the drier sardines in the oil and those are lower quality) and you mix it around and it it, its great. hot kimchi noodles are best with the sardines. I add the sardines cold but you could also re-microwave it for 30sec after adding the sardines to it if you want.
>>529505003the amount doesn't matter, it's momentum
all the people who wishlisted 3+ years ago forgot and don't care anymore
>>529505163that's not what saint zuk says
https://howtomarketagame.com/2025/01/27/do-wishlists-get-old/
>>529504504>Webfishingis web fishing a fotm that i never heard about that got owned by if statements, or is it just that one anon sperging.
>webfishing>mouthwashingI dont like these gayme names, seems kind of sus...
i'll just rip off vampire survivors, can't go wrong with that
>>529504226full robot bust
>>529505327https://store.steampowered.com/app/3031100/Wizard_Blaster/
your game still needs to be good
any progress, jusha anon?
Start boofing coffee. It changed my life.
That was scary aggy daggy. Was laying in bed when suddenly breathing in a little too deep would make the mid and or lower left side of my lung or chest area hurt. I'd have to stop early to prevent a worsening pain. I have had this happen before and iirc I once had it for an hour where I couldn't get a deep breath in. Also felt a lot like that one time when I had pneumonia albeit I'm not sure the diagnosis was accurate. Well anyways I accidentally breathed into too deep and felt a popping sensation and suddenly the pain went away. Took a really deep breathe just now and felt something very slight. Just sharing, this stuff is scary and nerve wracking.
>>529506520Maybe you should see a medical doctor.
>>529506520Supposedly it can happen if your stressed or anxious. The work on my game has been stressing me out and I usually avoid working on it. Idk if that's the cause but I generally do feel stressed and anxious. Any other anons get stressed or anxious from gamedev? It's usually hard stuff that does it to me. Also if I'm being lazy about working on my game, it stresses me out since I'm not making progress towards finishing it all while time is moving forward.
>>529506520this once happened to me while taking a shower and i almost blacked out lol, was probably the closest ive been to dying
If you're white, you should let your audience know since they'll be more likely to support you. Whites just get away with more shit that's why a majority of them are grifters. Asiandevs on the other hand don't have this luxury and have to make up for it with actual hard work.
>>529506520I see my hexes are working
>>529496720 (OP)i don't want to draw right now
i just don't want to
fuck it
i want to program something cool
i want to exert violence >:/
fuck this video shit
i am mad >:(
>>529506938What is the proper way of letting them know? Should I hide a black sun somewhere in the starting area?
>>529506520Heart palpitations, you have 2 more weeks.
>>529507069Make a devlog with your hands typing on the keyboard if you don't want to show face.
What do you think the right size for these guys is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMHQEk5Wgv0
thomas reminds me of the whites that i interact with on a daily basis who make everything about themselves
>>529506520You're not long for this world. Let me guess, you are covid vaccinated? I know two people who passed after a similar "popping" sensation in the heart since 2021 (thoughbeit one of them was quite old) something about air pockets and micro tears, I don't really understand the mechanism of it all.
If I were you I would not exert myself until you can see a cardiologist you likely require a stint.
>>529504696Ink Sea (dunno if i'm gonna actually call it that but eh), it's my RPG based on the tabletop system machinations of the space princess, so far i've gotten player stats, race traits and a semi-usuable world map system working,having a lot of fun working on it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rj1ejRAU-U
what does his wife think about his female protagonist?
>Your games success hinges entirely on the whims of this person
How does this make us feel?
How is it possible for some people to become millionaires making games when they're 20, while others like me are still struggling in their mid 30s? Are we not doing the same craft?
>>529507628take your meds
>>529507658you could ask that about literally anything frogboy
>>529507628>the success of my game depends on a basedfaced bald hobbitgrim
>>529507628Actually it's another person I'm relying on to completely alter the course of my life and future based on what is effectively luck.
>>529507628My game's success hinges entirely on how much porn japanese artists make of my main characters.
I don't know which thread that user is in now but I'm ready to be paid.
>>529507658ANONYMOUS YOU FUCKING RETARD WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION EVERY FUCKING WEEK BUT YOU IGNORE MY POSTS
YOU ARE NOT CUT OUT FOR GAME DEVELOPMENT. YOU ARE A NORMIE. YOU NEVER CARED TOO DEEPLY ABOUT GAMES, YOU WERE NEVER ALL THAT CREATIVE, YOU NEVER WERE GOOD IN ANY OF THE DISCIPLINES REQUIRED TO MAKE GAMES. YOU ARE ONLY DOING THIS BECAUSE YOUR LIFE IS A DEAD END AND IT'S TRENDY. YOU ARE A NORMALFAGGOT. YOU ARE A NORMALFAGGOT. YOU ARE A NORMALFAGGOT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkO8rYcXZXY
Just one video, please. That's all I'm asking for, you don't even have to like the game, you can call it total shit, just one. With over 50 thousand views preferably of course.
>>529507628>after NL's video, he's been selling at least 5000 units per day
>>529507929He looks like the gayest motherfucker in this solar system
New Kinno just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYZnS3nNw8
>>529507628your games success depends on whether or not you were born white
>>529507231Depends on what game is this what their roles are. Are their bosses? Bigger. Is it turn based? Not too big
>>529508195Supermarket Simulator was made by a Vietnamese rice farmer
>>529508195BiteMe games will never succeed
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these view counts gave me renewed hope, thank you branno
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When I make a million off my game I will put it all towards tracking down the BiteMe games team members and eliminating them
>>529508724Idle games don't need as much marketing as other genres
>>529508085I just want to pull on that ring.
Made infographic for consent, moving onto building
>>529507231way too early to be thinking about that.
>>529507628That is probably not true.
https://x.com/AntangSoftware/status/1939766313234440702
isn't this nigga from here
>>529507372> generic looking dude> professional studio, lighting, etcgrifter detected, opinion rejected
>>529506853Were the breath's really shallow? For me it seems to have been precordial catch syndrome.
>>529507519>Let me guess, you are covid vaccinated?Nope.
>>529507628I'd rather Sseth play my game. There's another 2 youtuber's I'd like to see play mine though they are nowhere near as popular as Sseth so I don't know how much they'd help with sales. Would still be entertaining to watch them play it.
>>529509212He's a nigger and we hate him
>>529506520I have had this maybe 20 times, though not in the last few years. "precordial catch syndrome"
>>529507876I'm literally a 30 years old virgin, social outcast who has been playing games his entire life, while Toby had a shitton of sex at Homestuck conventions and still became a millionaire when he was 19 years old or something. Same with Hopoo and guy who made Lethal League.
>>529508085ngl hes kinda cute
>>529509669that's called a 'failed normie'. It doesn't make you a special artistic genius capable of dealing with the most complicated artform invented by humanity as a one man team
>>529509284is he generic looking? i would say he's in the upper end of white males
>>529508898I'm going to tell you this here because I've scoured the entire internet and you don't have any kind of social media presence besides the steam community page. I know you're working on Interrogator 2. I know that you released Interrogator without telling us and I know that it's now delisted from Steam because you didn't get enough data. I hope you know what you're doing, and you're really going to have to think about presentation and marketing this time around if you don't want the same thing to happen again
>>529509779a failed normie is no longer a normie. Stop being an idiot.
>>529510015the category of failed normie exists to separate them out from the real autistic statistical outliers
>>529510097are you the ass eating workshop poster?
>i can't do anything other than code
sign of a failed normie
>>529507876>>529509779>>529510137There's nothing wrong with being normal.
>>529510013You're not wrong anon, I will need to get down to marketing soon enough
Good detective work too
i cant do anything, once my game releases they'll see how much of a fraud i am
I do gamedev because it's my only hope
You do gamedev because it's your LAST hope
we are not the same
>>529509669There doesn't exist a single worthwhile game made by someone with that kind of CV. Especially not by a solodev. The mental ailments that lead someone down that part in life also prevent them from creating something of worth (or anything at all)
>>529507850Made it fancier
>>529511256I don't even watch anime, but for some reason this specific video is stuck in my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GElj3l14mc
>>529511256I can't. I don't have the mental strength. Game isn't even out for 2 weeks and I've been sleeping and eating way less due to the stress. I'll probably waste away into a shitty skeleton by then.
>>529507850>>529511427you need to be gunned down
>>529507876This guy kinda seems a bit retarded. Takes 15 minutes to be like, ya, indies are hard to succeed in, you gotta be uhhh, good at it, and it takes time. Who is this video for?
>>529507876the best bet for people like him (and me) is to make friendslop
>>529512127>blind man makes photography game
>>529507876>>529510731>>529511961I don't understand why Jon sucks Elon's dick so much, but he's better than most of these e-celeb pussies.
>>529512105Did you know it's harder to take risks when you're over 35 than under?
https://youtu.be/IjqNSHT26gI?t=14
oops forgot the link
>>529512257It's actually pretty easy if you made money in your 20s instead of being a lazy cumstain
>>529512214Sorry, I don't know who those people are.
>>529510763then your father got divorced in his 40s and lost all of his shit
>>529512195pardon? normies who don't "care about games" are generally social gamers
they're not the type of people to play singleplayer games out of enjoyment for gaming, they just rely on gaming as a social platform
i guarantee you, normies who make games are best suited for making social co-op games
they suck at making "real" games, but have enough experience and passion for social games that they'll be able to at least make something fun they can play with their friends
ask them to develop a narrative, polish mechanics, improve progression systems, and make their assets cohesive, and they'll fail, because they don't care about any of those elements of gaming
ask them to make a game they can play with their friends and have fun messing around in, and they'll likely make something much better
this is at least my perspective on what normie "fake gamers" should do if they're insistent upon making games
what other experience do they have with gaming? why would they make something they're not familiar with? why not make something that's in alignment with their passion, even if they don't know exactly what their passion is?
>>529512474>then he became abusive and started beating the shit out of you every nightmany such cases
>>529508767chill co-op maid anon
>>529505820my god i can't believe someone called for me lmao, see you at DD mate!
sounds and ui gonna be a bit unfinished okay :( i'm also stressed out about the dialogues, happy with the combat feel tho :D
>>529512550I wasnt paying attention, thought it was about the 30 yo khv
>>529508085I've been a nodev for the last couple of days, but this got me out of that slump. No way I'll let creatures like this make better games than me. Start devving aggies.
>>529512602assuming he gets custody which he won't
orthographic or perspective camera for a pokemon-like game?
>>529512679nicee. this is going to win dd. Calling it now.
Why didn't you guys wrangle my shitty debilitating autism in? You let me run wild making incomprehensible slop. Shame on you.
>>529512868change it depending on which day of the week youre playing on
>>529512868orthographic is a meme and feels unnatural to the eye
>>529512994Just Like Make Game.
>>529512868The one on the right
i like my game but i don't think other people will
gonna finish it, release it, and learn from the experience
>>529512550You're right, and this makes me think more than ever that a huge percentage of /agdg are these kind of 'fake gamer' normies. Osur and Bigguydev are 1000% like this. They don't seem that interested in games as a medium and just hyperfixate on the kind of casual slop they are used to
>>529512679Follow up to this
>>529374335>I am nolifer I can basically go all in on this, since the start, I have been studying and doing game dev for 12 hours almost everydayHow do you stay focused for that long? I'm a nolifer aw, and I do like 4 hours on a good day. That's insane self discipline.
Learning is the hardest part because you have to soak up new information and try to understand it. Can't chill and do it while listening to music.
>>529507929>>529508085this whiteoid troon has no morality, it doesnt think about doing whats "right" or making gambleslop that ruins the market and tricks pigs into wasting hundred of hours on a game that deserves less than 10 top because of decades of refined skinnerbox psyops, we're in the jewish century and these are the kind of people who "win"
>>529513451I am a fast learner and believe me. It always comes down to believing in your vision at the end. If you are not grown in an environment where taking risks is encouraged, then your mind will be your worse enemy.
>>529508085Why do people mutilate their bodies with stuff like piercing/tattoos?
>>529513721Don't worry, they all get killed in the end
>>529507628>slay the spire but horse girlsis it really? or is this just tuberslop
>>529513129fygoon is a true dev
marnix is a normie dev
let it be heard and understood
>>529513856He did put a photo of his piercing in his game and it reached a high level of success so maybe it's us nonpiercinghaver gamedevs that are in the wrong
>>529512127>>529512550HOLY SHIT this makes so much sense. It all makes sense now. So this is why some people only buy certain games if they are popular and walk past them otherwise. On the one hand it's the social proof and not wanting to waste time with something that is disliked by the in-group. On the other hand it's because some people only play games (even pure single player games) as a social activity. They do it so that they can talk with other people about the game or experience the online community or watch videos on it etc. If a game has none of that they skip it even if it's the greatest game ever made, because their priorities are completely social and have nothing to do with the pure gameplay experience in the first place. There are people who play games because it drowns out their mental problems. There's people who play games because they enjoy the process. And then there's people who play games to participate in the social element. How did I not realize it until now
>>529514249I don't know, specially since we had a thread themed about the Bartle's Taxonomy of Player Types just a couple days ago
>>529274515 and it literally typifies the "Socializer".
>>529514249>some people only play games ... as a social activity>they can talk with other people about the game or experience the online community or watch videos on it etc>their priorities are completely social and have nothing to do with the pure gameplay experience in the first placeyou see this very frequently with the dark souls community
>>529513993No idea who marnix is but fagoon isn't a true dev because he's lazy and incompetent. If he actually spent 5 seconds being better than a day 1 everything then I'd say he's a real dev if not still a huge piece of shit pedo faggot though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxq4Am5jafg
I honestly think this is an amazing idea.
:D
>>529514249The inner circle operates on the same principle. They pay attention to the games of the devs that participate the most socially in the community and forget about the games of the ones that don't. It's all socially based and has nothing to do with the games themselves. I'm starting to think anon was right.
>>529514249It's not that deep. 96% humans are literally animals controlled by environmental condition.
They will gladly call something slop, but will do a complete 180 if there favourite streamer plays it, or it becomes mainstream.
Unity? Godot? Nah nigga we using ALLEGRO
gamedev equivalent of this?
>>529512550>>529514249The /tv/ analogy of this would be Squid Game or MCU movies. They are garbage but you don't watch them for the quality, you watch them so you can talk to people about them and shitpost on /tv/. Social-based products are a real thing
>>529511256thanks kita chan
>>529514483it's important to note that bartle's taxonomy was created specifically for MMORPGs, not all games
and even with this category, the majority of players are socializers
i think "real gamers", people who play singleplayer games out of pure passion for what the game provides, are actually very rare
even hyper-linear slop on roblox, like grow a garden, or steal a brainrot, has multiplayer lobbies, so you can look at what other people are doing
the social aspect of gaming, even singleplayer games through their communities, seems to be very under-discussed amongst devs, yet it's arguably the most important aspect for success and positive retention
>>529514748kek, wtf is happening
>>529514095Should I get a piercing?
>>529514829SHIT, so that's what the discord server meta was actually about
>>529512257That makes no sense. I am so stable in everything in life at 35 that I can pretty much do whatever I want.
>>529514748grifters always lose in the end
>>529514829>taxonomyOpinion Rejected.
>>529514838blud is crying anytime someone criticize israel
>>529514748Thomas Brush every time he mentions money
Sasquatch B
Marnix when he does a post-mortem
Nubbydev in 5 years
>>529514838peterson has baked his brain with ketamine despite his entire persona being "uhh just deal with it lol"
all of the games i want to make are fucking stupid
man
>>529514829It was made for MUDs but now it's applied to single player games as well
>>529514483It's one thing to notice that post in passing and another to deeply understand what it really means and how it connects to everything
>>529514872No. Work on your game.
>>529515220cool. make them. stupid games are so hot right now.
>>529508195>your games success depends on whether or not you were born whiteno but walking simulators talking about muh depression are 100% made by crackas
>>529513451>>529513738 <- not me (pic for proof)
I'm just bored... either I do this or I'm just bored out of my mind.
>>529515649I gotta add one thing tho, I love making game, like REALLY love it. That helps also.
>>529515373Can I get one as a reward once it's finished? I think it could help me meet alternative women
>>529515397yeah, i see no other way to proceed
it's simply impossible for me to make something i don't care about, even if what i do care about is absolutely retarded
wish me luck lol
>>529516251good luck anon.
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Every gamedev knows that the secret to thrivin is knowing when to jump the project and knowing when to keep
>>529516015I guess so. But you could also use magnetic ones and save getting pierced for nothing if you don't manage to get any girls.
Alright finished a quick render.
nubbys number factory was a side project btw
>>529517017his wifes butt must be tiny
>>529512474He gave up living long before the divorce. All my memories of him are yelling at TV, or explaining it to me (the only time he spent time with me) that the thing I asked for is actually not necessary, and in truth I didn't really want it at all.
>>529516602that's neat. but why?
What is the furthest you can subvert players expectations about your game without ruining your game.
>>529517548My players expect a playable game and instead I'm giving them slop dogshit kuso trash.
>>529472494>>529473150proof, with a monster can for scale
https://files.catbox.moe/veu56h.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/jveyk3.jpg
i broke his leg instantly so i had to glue it back on, what a pain. should have made him bigger
>>529511256I wish I had this, thank you Kita
>>529517794shouldnt you wait until the game is out before making merch, norgolb dev?
>>529518028the merch must flow
>>529516259Was just listening to this guy again. He's barely keeping it together. He's realizing that not only do other game devs make far better games, but that they make better youtube channels as well. "Your youtube is WAY better than mine because it's just, it's just so FOCUSED." *holds back tears...
I hope his twisted tower game sells well so he doesn't paint the walls with his brains. Think of your family Tom, it's ok if you're not great at making games.
>>529517794>should have made him biggerr/functionalprint
>>529518139i think he'll be alright
>>529518179just need make the legs jointed, then add some servos and a waterproof camera
hook it up to an llm and boom profit
>>529514954Really? It makes no sense? Are you dumb?
Another dev who made shitloads during the indie goldrush.
>>529518139Can you give me more details. I feel like this part applies to me except in terms of speed at making games and better quality:
>He's realizing that not only do other game devs make far better games, but that they make better youtube channels as well. "Your youtube is WAY better than mine because it's just, it's just so FOCUSED." *holds back tears...
>>529518514They're not good devs. They were never cut out for this field
>>529518514>making an RPG alonedont do this
>>529518514i cant comprehend how someone cant complete something so simple in such a long period of time. its a shame all the money goes to those with no ambition.
>>529517525Shitposting. Some anon in here was begging on how to find a slot machine asset for their game and we told them to make it because it's easy.
>>529518514I suspect ambitious projects like this get this ending more often then its talked about. Wonder whats going on to cause this kind of stuff, poor dev management skill? Not a high enough programming skill? Lack of content ideas?
>>529518680It was just Thomas prostrating himself of some random dev like usual. I wasn't making any deep point.
>>529518917eyup
and then the majority that do play will only play for 30 minutes
>>529518773If I don't then who will
>>529519014Probably just a person taking on too much responsibility. Idk how people try doing Art, Programming, Music. It's a rare fucking person who can do all that AND deliver a content filled game. I feel like Stardew is a good example of what's possible for a single dev. If you look at what actually launched, Stardew was not FULL of content. I mean it had farming, and the building to rebuild, and relationships. So a good game by all means, but really take what features he has and realistically think about it, it's not that much. And that's really all you can hope to do if you're alone. It's going to take 5 years to have a core system and a few side systems.
>>529518917I buy games as charity
>>529518965>>529519238is this why games can make so much passive income now? Gaben deserves the 30% in that case. This means that people are buying games they would never buy otherwise, and it's only possible through steam. It also means that as long as you impress your core fanbase you don't have to deal with any complaints or requests from over HALF of your buyers
>>52951891770-80% of players are roleplayers and socializers.
They don't play games to overcome dificult things.
The issue is designing games where you can't skip things so everyone reaches the end.
Games are still designed for killers when less than 5% of gamers are killers.
>>529518917this is false, 25-35% won't play it
>>529519462>it's not that much.Yeah looking at my last game it felt like a lot when working on it but then Id grab all the assets and it just didnt feel like a lot. Not even 50 different enemies worth. Yet it took me so long to develop the game and it hasnt even been finished.
>>529519828eyup its great!
also make sure to never support linux
they are a tiny minority but will make up like 90% of your bug reports
>>529518917like 70% played mine but i think most idled to get cards so obviously im an outlier
>>529518838>i cant comprehend how someone cant complete something so simple in such a long period of timeHe literally got rich off a game he made in 4 months (with some extra updates in the months after).
Money is poison and it kills your hunger to "make it".
Though I should mention an RPG game is never something "so simple" to make.
>>529518917As long as they don't refund it...
>>529498662based jetbrains enjoyer
>>529519982To clarify, I do think SDV was a solid well rounded game with a good core system + complimentary systems. BUT on paper it's not that much. Like, how many enemies did he have, how varied was combat? Very few, and basically no combat variation. Bombs and sword is was 99% of that system. Then the friend system is just giving people items. And again this isn't bad, it's just something to think about. This "simple" stuff takes a lot of time.
>>529517525>>529519005If you check /v/ he's in there making excuses on why it's somehow impossible for him to do.
an incremental tower defense game is the only game i can think of making right now
Wow, my game is NOT liked.
>>529521970Yes (and socialism killed it)
>>529521863[By whom?] [Citation needed]
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SO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE IN ME I'LL DO MY BEST AND NEVER GIVE UP
Years from now in your millionare home you're going to reminesce about how you forced that deckbuilder mechanic into your game and you will feel ashamed of yourself
front mission 3 clone but full mech graphics instead of sprite things inbetween attack animations
>>529507876I don't disagree with what he's saying at all, but he's trying to sound very elitist for someone whose game looks like absolute shit, and doesn't play too well. His game was a success because it's horror, the lowest common denominator in every type of entertainment.
There's definitely devs that could get away with being this sincere and condescending, but he's not him. He got lucky.
>>529522903>game with multiple routes but the decision is 5 minutes into the game and the game is 100 hours longwhat were they thinking
cris shitting up /mu/
>>>/mu/126881997
how do i make an RCTlike better than the original ?
>>529522731Years from now on, in my makeshift hobo shelter near the trash dump I'll reminiscence about the time I had a computer and wonder if I should have added deckbuilder mechanics to my game.
>>529523179is it even possible? unless you code it in binary.
6 ways to 7 is actually fun
>>529523636I am not learning craps
i think that not wanting to play any game is the source of my current gamedev block
it should be ready enough for demo day
>>529524038oh, i thought the guy came up with the bet types, didn't know the game already exists...
you ARE making a Yakuza-like, right?
>>529525005There are Japanese people in my game does that count?
>>529514838Grifterson is a whimpy faggot again (it's only the 3489th time). It's fucking hilarious how failed human beings will listen to this joke and think that the retarded drivel that comes out of his mouth is in any way meaningful.
>>529524038this. it's crap!
>>529525005Nah.
I have an idea for a game set in Japan but it would be horror focused.
What is the equivalent of /fit/s gains goblin in gamedev?
>couldn't even figure out how to place the feet on a rock
>>529525565remember when he had a complete meltdown and said he's quitting games for good, but his mormon handlers didn't like that, so they forced him to make another game.
and all of a sudden, he's ignoring the fact that he had a meltie on youtube?
>>529525565The indie goldrush rewarded so many mediocre games
>>529525565it's a stylistic choice, incel
I am struggling so much to make my game's art original, it is always overbaked and incoherent shit that nobody would pay any (ANY) money for.
Also you know, in order to evaluate if something is coherent you need to fucking draw it, and that takes time.
Seriously fuck this shit, I am so fucking done.
I wasn't meant to participate in consumerist society, spending my days cooking slop for braindead manchildren.
Fuck.
20 fucking years and I have yet to be thrown a single fucking bone.
>>529525532you don't make gains in gamedev
>posts eceleb
>hey, look at this guy! let's insult him!
>>529526512This but unironically
If you don't like yourself, you can't like other people.
>>529526421cris, don't be so hard on yourself
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>>529474994Thanks!
The game has multiplayer and it even works. Ideally I want it to be mission-based with additional coop and some pvp maps
>>529526834I like myself so much that there aren't any leftover "likes" for others.
I'd say sorry, but I don't like you enough to apologize.
>>529526834I hope making a good game will finally enable me to like myself
>>529525565To be fair IK was a pain in the ass back in Unity 4
>>529526834Correct. They like my game, and I'll like them back. Respect is two way street.
>>529525868That's not exactly what happened.
He made a ton of money.
Felt that he was stressing himself out with deadlines and all that shit for no reason now that he was financially stable.
And said he would return to making games if he had a good idea.
Thoughts on stuffing your game into any and all loosely related jams to get some feedback?
>>529527807The guilt and anxiety of charging naive devs 300 dollars for a gamedev course. Thomas Brush doesn't feel this guilt, which is why he's a sociopath.
>>529528138Why not just go to a bunch of discords for some vaguely related games and ask people to try it out?
>>529526998this shit is my jam
>>529528138I've only ever worked on one game and I prepared it to release on demodays so I've never really had problems getting feedback
I guess just beg your friends
>>529528196Do you think his course is worth it? Maybe there's good information, $300 isn't that much?
What's the best game engine for vibe coding? I want to just point the Cursor agent at a directory and get most of the boilerplate shit done so I can focus on the fun parts. Please no bully.
>>529528452>he fell for the #ad
>>529528383I cant' speak to David's course.
But for Thomas I would be extremely skeptical.
Anyone offering courses for Unity, Godot and Unreal for a single price probably doesn't know more than a surface level about all three.
>>529528638Pretty sure he's outsourcing the curriculum to some thirdies
>>529528850I would ask for a refund immediately if I found that to be the case.
>>529528640>>529528510What? Cam I not just do unity or something since it's c# code and then just plug in the script files to my components?
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I have an idea and need programmers
>>529529938do tell, bocchi
>>529529938What's the pay?
>>529528452>so I can focus on the fun partsdefine what's fun for you
https://youtube.com/shorts/59iVfmi5xls
>>529530195>Youtubers are melting your brain. (And you don't even know)
>>529530195Story, art, level design, gameplay mechanic tweaking. I don't want to learn to design an AI or study trig so I can get a sprite to face the camera perpendicular regardless of position on screen. That's the opposite of fun.
>>529530536Just make Doom/Quake Wads.
>>529530542Nice! But... What is "it"?
>>529530583Nah I want to make an iso action RPG that's actually horny instead of some sage horny bullshit. I'm going for unsafe honey.
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>>529530704>stop asking questions!
>>529530371All social media, doomscrolling, porn.
>>529530536If you're good enough to catch someone's attention, you could try looking for someone that is willing to do those things for you for free.
Like here:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/529175947/#q529177471
>>529529563oh, sorry, I meant Super Wienie Hut Jrs.
>>529531912a miserable little pile of amateur waifus
>>529531912the opposite of marmofake.
>>529528138yeah i heard some guys are making a jam this friday they're all gamedevs from a hacker website its gonna be cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goOrHPDjEZU
need a godot gf to make the shartdew killer with so bad vros...
trooniper nodev posting, which means that marmoshart woke up
Why can't i make a game that feels like using Winamp with waifus?
>>529532823Does she have a BF?
>>529532934cris did you abandon the japanese learning game already
>>529529938What'cha need help with, anon? Maybe I can share some Bedabots code to make it work!
>>529532487enough with the asian women
>>529533434>vedditor tourist doesnt know abou the bosci nodev shitpostsanother one
KEKYPOW
I love tall tastefully lanky curly red haired freckle duck bunny overbite nice front teef woman and I will make game with her.
>>529533434Yes Bedabotdev, I need help! I need to see the biggest pair of robot tits in your game so I know what I'm dealing with.
>>529533814FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
reminder that notch's wife is a billionaire despite not making minecraft and at this rate shes gonna have more money than him since hes spending it all
get married BEFORE you make game
Can't believe she met the saint himself
>>529533971wish I was notch's wife
>>529533814>>529534038are all of them nepobabies or just her, schizo sleuths do your jobs
>>529534220>are all of them nepobabies or just her, schizo sleuths do your jobs
Testing the momentum system
trooniper nodev does give nepobaby vibes if im being honest
if you listen to xer you're being mislead by someone who never struggled in xir life, on top of beinga w*man (no good game comes from them)
>>529534698@grok translate this from incelish plz
what do chinkmen use instead of twitter?
>>529535043misskey, weibo
>>529535043there bilibili but thats more youtube
>>529533847Okay! Anything gamedev-related you need help with, or will that suffice?
https://litter.catbox.moe/o74p24exst2fqfrd.png
this guy ->
>>529535226 gives me fygoon vibes, like great value fygoon
>>529535226That's good for now, thanks!
blud thinks we are youtube wikia
My hexes worked. Pirate Software is finally getting cancelled.
Tell me your secrets right now. How do you focus on gamedev and work on your game for hours without procrastinating?
REVEAL THY SECRETS
>>529535980by having the weekends be completely with no restriction.
assuming you can work on your game for at least 8 hours per day during the work week.
>>529533814The guy in the middle is polymars, another zoomer devtuber. I doubt they're dating.
>>529534220>emily pitcherthat's a pretty white last name. Is she a hapa? I can't tell. Also skimming through her website she doesn't even do any coding for her game. Stolen valour.
>>529535917use a blessing on me, anon. I think someone hexxed me. I have not worked on my game for the last 3 days.
>>529535980>How do you focus on gamedev and work on your game for hours without procrastinating?I withhold music from myself, I only listen to any whilst working on my game.
Also paper plus classic notebook does help with organizing stuff
>>529535672too young for you
>>529535193If only I could register on misskey.io. Now I have to make my own instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WVZaIVn7OM
mandem really said: imma give my MC the least amount of aura and rizz
>you really thought you could get away with spaghetti code... AGAIN???
>ah ah ah
>not today anon-kun
>>529536672>cris has to pay 2 people 2 dollars a monthwhere do i get in on this racket
>>529536672I...I thought you were supposed to get paid on patreon, not the other way around?
>>529536672I WILL surpass him.
>>529536512this'll have 500 reviews day 1, all from people who have bought both fields of misteria and stardew valley and played both for 500 hours already
>>529536546agdg should take inspiration from dragon ball DS visual style
>>529535441okay, you're taking it too far
don't compare people to that person or Cris
>>529537320 juniperdev's...
JUNIPERDEV'S WHAT?!
WHAT DO YOU NEED
>>529534664Did you remove the celestial bodies orbiting?
It's boring when they're static
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2142790/Fields_of_Mistria/
why is this only 18k reviews
proof that nepobaby games get botted reviews and botted score
>>529533386Not really, I was at my dentist and was idea guying while at it.
>>529537849>Stardew Valley but worse and ugly
>>529535980Enjoy the process
I'm finally starting to realize how much of a retard I am for ever thinking game dev was going to free me from wageslavery. The estimated net revenue for a $10 game with 1,000 reviews is barely over $100,000. Before taxes too. That's 35 THOUSAND sales by the way. I consider $100k to be the absolute bare minimum amount needed to actually feel like I've "made it", and even then it still isn't enough to buy a house in my country (third worlders need not reply). I'd still be a rentoid.
So even after I've managed to strike gold and make a game people actually like, I'd need to immediately start working on my next game, because that $100k is going to dry up real quick unless I want to go back to wageslaving. But would I really have enough of a fanbase at that modest level of success to guarantee my next game will provide me with anything more than a few thousand dollars? Can I bank on lightning striking twice? I don't think so.
Feel free to laugh at my stupidity for not just thinking I had a chance at making it, but making it to the level that I'd achieve true freedom. I don't even want to be mega wealthy, I just want to be able to quit my job with some feeling of security to keep making games.
I honestly want to make a game that feels like winamp + isekai + reading old newspapers + reader digest from the 60's + typewriter ambient + 70's terminals + 80's anime.
>>529537713They don't move when time is stop.
>>529538369just move to some expat heaven
>>529538369as long as you learn this within the first 6 months and not after years.
>>529538054shartdew tranney looks like a rpgmaker porn game
pipe down
either you become rich with your hit game or you might as well not even release any game.
no stardew valleys wasn't erics 10th game release. no minecraft wasn't notchs 10th game release. no schedule 1 wasn't the 10th release.
at least poverty is harsh and truthful, middle class income is just eternal copium in fear of not hitting rock bottom with the poorfags. at least poorfags can handle it and don't have to enslave themselves out of fear.
>>529536672i apologize to cris
>>529537596calm down juniperdev
gamedev is basically a lottery. you can either spend all your time on one lottery ticket, or make a lot of lottery tickets
>>529536337do the opposite of what nortubel does
>>529538369https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtYvcIjvoQ
Why the 30% Royalty Devs lose to Steam Doesn't Make Sense
if it's a lottery, how come devs like Landfall Games and Grizzly Games keep making hit after hit?
>>529539437yeah just looking at all the random 2D platformers that blew up randomly because they won the lottery...
oh wait, none of them blows up :DDD
>>529539521it's not a lottery, the other anon is just a fucking dumbass with low IQ who can't recognize patterns. when you can't recognize a pattern you believe it is randomness. that's literally the definition of low intelligence.
imagine going to a doctor and he says "if i can cure you is literally just a lottery, because there's no obvious pattern in your symptoms" - i know your finger is swollen, but if your finger is really the problem is just like playing the lottery. maybe it's your anus?
>>529539493Valve cultists don't care. They're the modern console zealots.
you have to make what you want to make.
and what you want to play...
>>529539950yep, having a personal identity is the key, not random ideas. that's why ghetto poorfags are rappers and not country singers. same vice versa.
if you don't align what you do with your identity you'll be seen as a fraud and fail.
>>529538383I saw that the other day. didn't catch the name.
>>529539446Finish a game?
>>529539105True.
Just take your shot and move on if you fail.
>>529539437>gamedev is basically a lottery. you can either spend all your time on one lottery ticket, or make a lot of lottery tickets
ppl say there's so many good games yet they all fail. meanwhile i don't see any good games. maybe i'm just blind or so. i genuinely think schedule 1 was better than all those 2D indie games. like, i don't really see all those good games that fail out of bad luck. maybe they serve a niche, but then yeah, if you go for a niche, then you are just a niche game, ofc you not gonna hit the masses.
>>529539437third worlder mindset
if the game you want to play can be made by one person it means that your game isnt good
>>529541205if your pizza can be made by one person it means that your pizza isnt good
If you can't make a good game with 1 person, you have a skill issue.
>>529541335>Making pizza is the same thing as making a game
>>529541408nigga you have 3+ years time to make your stupid ass game. what the hell do you do in those 3 years that cannot be good in the end?
with early access you can even stretch it to 10+ years.
>>529541538Who said you had to spend 3 years on a fucking video game. The original Binding of Isaac was made in 3 months.
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Exterminate all animetroons with a flamethrower
anime is an inseparable part of gamedev
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yee down with the animetroons wahooo burn them dooown
how do I get good at character design?
What's with all the Japanimation in this thread
>>529542286>how do I get good at character design?
how does it feel to make a game with SDL ?
>>529539446yeah but HOW to godot????
>>529542596https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOhfqjmasi0
>>529542464this but in a gay retard voice
>>529542781Now to make my FE clone
>>529542924>FE clone>he doesn't know
I was watching a video about ham radio language, and I'm like, wtf, a radio operator would be 100% KINO as game mechanic, wtf.
Imagine a world war Z ham radio operator VN.
that would be 100% amazing.
>>529500528the druidess with the booba?? POST IT
>i-i can't believe it.
>this will revolutionize the industry
>ehehehehhehe
https://youtu.be/Tgh8cL2mYEY?si=BjYh3rZSnEZ_9fjf
top comfy
>>529543059always has been
>>529543059anime website, now stop seething
>>529543732>He says on a video game board
>>529543732it's all two or three posters spamming this off topic shit because they get off derailing the thread
>>529543850>He says on an anime video game board
>>529543928>>>/a/and stay there
>>529542464Bare-bones, simple, satisfying.
Anons will seethe that you dare enginedev or be happy with a small game
>>529543928>He says on a video game board that created to contain League of Legends and Dota threads, two Western gamesAnyway
>>529544090/agdg/ literally stands for Anime Game Development General.
baka!
>pew pew pew pew
I have anti anime fatigue.
>>529542464pretty comfy though I quickly realized I'm too midwit for c and ran into hard to debug heap corruption errors when trying to make a decent sized game with it
>>529544094>>529544438there's something telling me to do it bros
I want to make simple game from scratch
I know it won't be good
I know its pointless but I want to do it so bad
Avatarfagging doesn't make you cool or interesting.
Attention seeking female behavior.
>>529544601facts, but they will never admit it
>>529514548Keep posting this cat and daigo picture cristobal. They are funny.
I know creating a 3d platformer is a bad idea commercially. But I'm not even sure that's the main genre.
You control a guy on an island on the day of the apocalypse and have to manage your time and island resources to survive it.
You'll have to discover the order of things to do, object interactions through experimentation and exploration of the island to find interest points. all this while wiping until eventually winning.
Should I try?
>>529544806>You control a guyYou already lost me.
>>529544806>Should I try?of course not, trying is the first step towards failure.
me? im with the lizardman on this one
>>529545005we don't care about your gay crush
>>529544584Hell yes anon do it!!
This is a hobby, and the point of a hobby is to enjoy it. You'll learn so much.
It feels great to finish a small shitty game and have anons play the demo.
I recommend raylib as it has more high level features that will help a beginner. But SDL has more low level functionality so you can make your own choice.
>>529545412now I want ice coffee.....
>>529544601(((female))) is what they want you to think. that's a man, nigga. it's all trannies.
>>529545495make one for me
>>529545495What a coincidence. I just got back from making one for myself.
>my game will never have this much soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqxwy3F4JEI
>>529539437its a lottery ticket but making a good game gets you more rolls
>>529545726Just add one key ingredient
How do you make token collecting/turning in exciting and fun? Basically, kill a bunch of enemies, at the end of the level a UI pop up tells you that you earned x number of tokens. Walk over to NPC and another UI pop up lets you click a button to turn in the tokens
But there were no actual tokens, there was no feeling of earning and achieving, and no dopamine released via the turn in (although a juiced up animated XP bar and level up sounds/effects can help with this)
Any thoughts? Yesdev, nodev, and idea guy opinions all welcome
Post your dev inspiration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLk6Wbq4SA
Gamedev is like poker. You fold hands until you find one within your range, and then bet time and effort into making it. Even with bullets, you're not guaranteed success, but your odds are overwhelmingly higher.
Gamedev is not a lottery. If you believe so, that is because your IQ is too low. You have no clue how to interpret the hand you're playing. You might as well be playing blind.
>>529546223Did sweet baby finally update their copy paste material?
Now I see why you guys hate the 'Goon. He was right about everything. Sure, he is not perfect, but at least he is a tried and true yesdev who is the embodiment of whimsical adventure, deep lore, and solid messaging for the entire family to enjoy.
>>529546398even if you make them green floating orbs or something, you gotta tune into the caveman brain and give us physical, attractive-looking things to collect and spend that are shiny and/or interesting. and give us satisfying, high-pitched "clinking" sounds when they are collected (and maybe make consequent pickup sounds go up in pitch slightly)
Every single tranimeposter you share this general with is eventually going to end up like Chris Chan did
The only reason you won't hear about it is because none of them are as high profile as him
deving with alcoholic father in the background screaming some random shit
>>529544295>>529543329>>529536546>>529530542reminder that naked Bulma scenes in anime were shown when Bulma was like 14-15 years old, so any DB fan is a pedophile in US jurisdiction
>>529546950doesnt chris chan have a cute gf?
>>529546398The act of collecting doesn't have to be fun. the rewards have to. players will get excited on their own by the potential rewards each time they spot a collectible.
>>529546984my condolences, personally we left and it worked out okay, I hope you feel strong enough to post about your game next time
>>529535980crawling in my skin on loop
>>529547112>personally we left and it worked out okayI'm moving out tommorow so it's ok
>>529547047I watch Ocean Dub. No noodely involved. Just fully closed human.s
>>529545726its soulless as fuck though. basically kongjaks.
>>529546398you need a limiter.
Basically the best fit for collecting without combat is a level time limit.
>>529542464it feels good to flex on godotroons and unity/unreal jeets
>>529545280If SDL ends up being too harsh on me, I will use raylib
>>529546398>>529546935>>529547096>>529547714So in all of these examples there does need to be a physical act of collecting it seems. My issue is over-loading the player with collecting too much. Item drops, coin drops, XP drops, etc, it almost becomes too noisy and less impactful at that point. Hmmmm....
>>529548262you can use something like collect the most tokens in 60 seconds, as core non violent combat alternative.
browsing this thread and actually reading what people write will retrain your brain and it'll make you think like nodevs
>>529548262The key is the ups and downs. Small reward for small enemies and huge reward for big enemies. Disproportionately huge like an ogre that's as tough as 5 orcs would drop 15X as many tokens as those 5 orcs. That way the swings between big and small rewards can really drum up some excitement.
>>529548924If you give equal value to each comment then yes but I wouldn't recommend that.
>>529549193law of mere exposure
>even if i worked for 4 years and the game was a flop, I would have learned so much, I would have grown as a person and I would have the dignity of like, I had finished a project and I feel that is important too and that can, you know... if you keep that going, eventually, you're really increasing your chances of something happening... it's better than doing nothing!
https://youtu.be/83DYlsJoaFk?feature=shared&t=4032
>>529549521you cannot force this mindset, you need financial security to have it
>>529549652If you don't at least have short-term financial security, you should not be wasting your time with game dev.
>>529549521the only ways ive learned and grew while making this game are obtaining useless skills like programming and animating
the ony thing that will happen when i release this flop is i'll have wasted the years i was supposed to be doing things with and end up poor and worthless forever
>>529546223I prefer this.
https://kiwi.web-sdr.net/
Imagine making a game off this.
>>529549652>>529550005>>529550047cris youre not a nepobaby
nepobaby advice doesnt matter to you, just like chad advice doesnt matter to you, just like dubai prince advice doesnt matter to you
>>529549521nice to be able to say this after you've already succeeded
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slime friends
>>529549521I was already grown when I made my game though, I didn't suck at pixel art like eric so it's hard to say where I improved...
>>529549521Says the guy who never had a soulcrushing 9-5. Working part time at a pretzel shop doesn't count
>>529550434Is it his fault you're a pussy? Sell drugs, loser. Get a bitch to support you.
>>529550321looks cool i really like the iridescent effect or whatever its called
>>529550557not gonna lie you deserve a good beheading, hope you get it one day
>>529550005Right. When Alexander invaded Persia people often say "Well he was a prince who became King, it was so easy for him!" No, he had to sell off most of his land, most his property. To the point it worried his companions. "Alexander, what have you left for yourself?" Alexander "My dreams." He got his financing in order and then went to war. He didn't just launch himself into war, 1 foot in and 1 foot out. Get your shit in order and then do it.
is this jobby evil? the majority of big indie devs are metaphysically evil
what does it mean?
I hate how successful crumble is despite being a shit human
second wind shilled him
just before that he was on one of the summer game fest secondary streams
>>529551306Alexander was literally a nepobaby thoughever
>>529550086my next game will be adult man + little girl ludokino
>>529551483Right, you're the anti Eric schizo. You're mentally ill.
>>529550661this post perfectly captures the duality of the average agdg poster. Incredible
>>529551476lots of evil people are doing well in the indie gamedev space, hmmmm....
>>529551483If you're not a nepobaby, you're NGMI. This is a nepobaby jobby. Losers like you need to go back to your warehouse job.
>>529551476nepotism rocks doesnt it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfI3GRQbV0s
Do you ask for random ideas of shit to look up on chat gpt.
>>529551897Right, you're the anti Crumble schizo. You're mentally ill.
your daddy paid off 80% of your kickstarter lol we already know
bot some more twitter and reddit posts you fraud
>>529551376The world is evil, it's everywhere
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LMFAO
Are you doing all you can to get jacked and live your best life, to make your best game? Are you doing all you know to be right and ignoring everything you know to be wrong?
these are grown men in their 30s 40s gossiping about each other btw
>>529506520as someone with chronic lung diesase, i got used to every now and then nearly passing out from a sharp pain when trying to deep deeply...
usually i just wait a bit and try again and goes away by itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJggZec6qqo
say what you want even if he was a nepobaby and got a lot of free marketing he worked hard on putting all the chances on his side
how many devs are too lazy to have coop in coop centric games? how many dont think of having an easy moddable game? sure you wont get the same attention from the (((((medias))))))) but still
>>529551980>Bench Power SuppliesAt first Ive thought we are entering /fit/ cris arc
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The organization distracted me once again. I didn't make any progress because I binged the sopranos and mushoku tensei. I don't know why the organization tries to distract me, but they won't succeed. I'm on to their tricks now.
can we go back to bocch posting?
>>529550661inshallah brother
>>529552471We aslo pretend to be japanese highschool anime girls
>>529552574>>529552624>>529552681very organic posts, nothing to see here citizen
>>529548403look at that forearm/thigh ratio and that pixie cut
lets summon his enemy, the 'goon
Alhamdulillah, brother Eriq Al-Baruni has blessed this thread. MashaâAllah
>>529552648what organization?
>>529553195MashaâAllah brothers
madodev still posting here? he sounded very depressed last time i saw him
i guess that making porn games takes a toll on your well being, unless you're a psychopath
>>529553195Bismillah brother
Labbayk wallahi as long as we stand our deen can never get broken by the murtaddeen
>>529549521this is true if you actually enjoy making games
oh no, my game flopped
fuck it, i learned a lot
i'll just work on another one
vs
oh no, my game flopped
my get rich quick scheme failed
time to commit seppuku
back to my miserable wage cage
anybody who doesn't understand his perspective is likely ngmi
what kind of remote job can you find if you're good at gamedev
I mean generally, not just in gamedev field
>vibe coder
>programmer
etc
>>529554249>vibe coderconsider suicide street shitter
>>529554428get with the times sir prompt engineer is a legit job now sir do the needful
why does /agdg/ suddenly hate vibe coding?
>>529554538Maybe some coders seething that art skilled devs that aren't good at coding can now just like make game without having to hire them
What do you anons think of the movement?
/agdg/ -> 1000 posts about how hard it is to make money
/prod/ -> 0 posts because people literally gave up already, they don't even discuss it anymore
>>529554842On your prototype grind texture material, find "tri-planar" and turn it on.
>>529554842why do people always make wallruning when trying to "improve" fps controller?
(ignore the old wemb I attached)
which audio track do you prefer? Not so much about the style, but in terms of how the track sounds:
https://vocaroo.com/17xHISsLExqs
or
https://vocaroo.com/1oHdYhYons9R
Top is generated in Unity using pureData synthesis, MIDI, and Tracker module files. Bottom is purely done in a Tracker.
I like the top better, but it takes a while to make them. Doing stuff just on the tracker can be anywhere from 30 min to 2 hours to have something decent, whereas doing stuff in Unity takes around 3 hours minimum (first programmed on the Tracker, then pureData and MIDI needs configuring, then plug it into the custom editor I made, then generate at runtime)
Plus side for generated in Unity - takes up almost 0 disk space (5mb right now. I'm guessing around 25-50mb total once the game is complete) vs the Tracker mp3 files which are anywhere between 3mb and 10mb each.
Thanks, have a great day!!
>>529554920100 games release on Steam every day, while 100,000 songs release on Spotify every day.
>>529555168it'd take you 200 years without sleeping to listen to all the music released last year
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>>529554538because i don't want these street shitters making PRs to my projects
>>529554971
>>529554842jumping out shouldn't turn you towards opposite wall that drastically, keep the camera in the direction you're running, other than that its cool
also your wells are missing the turning wheel to lower/raise the bucket
I farted and blood came out
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>>529555457How is this related to video games?
Imagine for a second you had a do over and could start working on gamedev early enough that you could release a single full fledged complete game between 2015-2017. Ie you get sent back to ~2010 with just enough time to finish and release the game in that tiny window. Do you think you could succeed and make a 3000+ review game?
>>529555457stop masturbating anally
>>529554962Hahahaha thank you anon. I have a bunch of CSGboxes with test.jpg added to it and called it a day.
>>529554971Because I want wall running and wall kicking. I am not trying to "improve" the quake controller I am making the game I want to player which is like csgo surf but you are killing thing while you do it, Im adding it so when you are in a tight arena you have more options for movement.
if you call yourself a gamedev and can't write C, your only option is suck starting a shotgun
>>529555794with my current knowledge yeah
i was pretty dogshit back then, and now i am less dogshit
>>529555457Concerning. Might just be a hemorrhoid(s). Have you been sitting for very long periods of time (eg sitting and devving for 4 hours straight, or gaming too, basically sitting too long)? You need to get up and walk more frequently. Usually hemorrhoids make themselves obvious within a few days. Could just go get it checked. Just dont sit for too long. Even if you're crunching to make your game make it to demo day, its not worth it anon. It's just demo day, take a break. Same with staring at the pc monitor. Even if its an intense session of drawing, you need to take a break for your eyes sake, and probably neck too. Go get it checked though
>>529555457Never trust your farts
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>tfw you start making assets reliably and they're not dogshit
what the fuck im learning
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>>529557548Sure you are, Cris.
There's not yet a game about water jousting between anglo pirates and new grenada teams meanwhile they're being cheered by Vanuatu water musicians set in Venice in the quatrocento.
Those people who tell you not to take chances, they are all missing what life is about
Ctse
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A little redo of Ctesiphon and it colonial BG
>>529490053Iv literally been spending like a week turning down normals x1000 you're blind and trolling me instead of giving me some REAL feedback.
remember.
mix and step for shaders > if statements
>>529558617stop driving yourself crazy with this stuff. thats my advice to you, the game looks good enough already.
>>529559167NO IF I CAN GET THE LOW POPULATION OF ANGRY JADED WHITE MEN ON MESSAGE BOARDS TO LIKE THE GAMES ART that WILL 1000000x ITS APPEAL TO NORMIES AND GAMERS. EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS DOWNSTREAM FROM THE CHUD ON A MESSAGE BOARD WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT or NOT
>>529558781This only matters if you're maxing out the GPU, like in a shitcoin mining or AI training situation.
>>529558175whenever those people say that stuff I just imagine a rotting corpse and think "These people think playing it safe is going to prevent the grave?"
No, you prevent the grave by being so weird that the entire world dissolves.
And that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to end this world and its rot. I'm not playing nice with it. I'm not saying its part of a good plan anymore.
In the impossible scenario where she never comes to me, I'll stay alone. I will never let this illusion win.
>>529559383whoa blast from the past
Boku like from old-ass /agdg/? Like 10 years ago?
You working on a sequel or some DLC or something?
>>529555794Yes definitely. I could cut scope and save months of time and it'd probably still sell well.
>>529559558i am just implementing best pragtices...
>>529559781whodev humilliation ritual
>>529558617Palm tree looks cool
>>529559781this is a unique art style
good jobbbbbbboooooooooooooo pardner
i'm making a text-based idle game
imagine making a rogue-like beat em up couch co-op with balatro-lite mechanics and with an early chiptune style pixel em up art style?
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As always, I will make a generous donation to your demo if you add a screen at the beginning that says "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts". It must be unskippable and stay present and visible for at least 5 seconds.
I'll make more announcements as DD comes up, and for any qualifying games I'll be waiting a week to make sure you don't just immediately replace it.
I don't want to list an exact amount, because a game where it really doesn't fit in, or going "the extra mile" (fart noises in your soundtrack, especially in a serious game, things like that) will be rewarded more heavily.
Humiliate yourself for money.
Adding a cow-pet thing because why not. You interact with a weird cow, cow gives itself as an item. You use the item it spawns cow menu.
For the full release I will probably make this cooler, now its more or less slow cookie-clicker with weird rewards.
>>529555096probably 17xHISsLExqs
just because it gives more room to kinda think I guess
the game seems a little slower tempo than the noisier one
>>529560467is this what billionaires do for fun?
i would never ever date a brown gamedev
>>529560467how will you prove that you'll actually pay?
>>529560551Not a billionaire but let's just say I got real lucky with Bitcoin AND Gamestop
>>529559880In some situations, branching is better, or it wouldn't exist as an available operation at all. Modern GPU architectures will warp or predicate those if statements, running both possible results in parallel and flushing the incorrect one. While this wastes more total cycles used, but those cycles are completely in parallel, and will in fact improve performance, so long as the available cores aren't saturated. This results in a lower latency and frame time at the expense of a few extra cycles.
>>529560467>As always, I will make a generous donation to your demo if you add a screen at the beginning that says "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts". It must be unskippable and stay present and visible for at least 5 seconds.>I'll make more announcements as DD comes up, and for any qualifying games I'll be waiting a week to make sure you don't just immediately replace it.>I don't want to list an exact amount, because a game where it really doesn't fit in, or going "the extra mile" (fart noises in your soundtrack, especially in a serious game, things like that) will be rewarded more heavily.>Humiliate yourself for money.
>>529559794>>529559383>Gay mutt not sucking the dick of white men challenge impossible.
>>529560619I won't. That makes it even more of a risk for the squealing piggies who go for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCd6PfxOy0Y
>>529560467Where do I sign?
>>529560790You meme but if a dev caters to white, center to right leaning any race of man, or asain men. Basically a dude bro audenice as much as possible that games quality raises 100x and if he is purposely trying to jew them by making a game that dispeases them that game lowers in succeess by x1000
The only reason AAA survived doing the latter for the last 10 years was because jew elites funded them with capital to make bad games that pleased them with garbage gay leftist politics.
>>529560972After releasing the demo just say in thread "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts" along with a link to your game.
>>529560467define generous donation
Why can't you have more than one Publisher? It would give your game bigger reach. If your game fails due to a publisher you can't simply move to a different publisher?
my game will only use an all white color pallete
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AI 3D generation is getting scary good bros. The topology is still ass but genuinely this might actually replace sculpting.
>>529561239what, like 50 shades of gray?
>>529561259Can't wait desu. We'll get to the point where I can make Elden Ring on my own.
anons don't do it, don't debase yourself
you are not farty fart men, you are yesdevs
>>529554538What is vibe coding?
>>529561462Its when you just go with the vibes and poop in the street
>>529561063>The only reason AAA survived doing the latter for the last 10 years was because jew elites funded them with capital to make bad games that pleased them with garbage gay leftist politics.I still remember when a congressional testimony revealed the Federal Reserve (owned by Jews) was literally printing money and giving it for free to woke (and jewish owned) organizations (the exact phrase in congress was "organizations with ties to Israel") and a few of them mentioned were AAA game studios creating woke games and Hollywood movie studios etc. Afterward this testimony was suppressed so hard I can't even find a trace of it anymore.
TLDR: The Jew Federal Reserve was printing billions/trillions in free money and giving it to Woke Jew Organizations to destroy society.
>>529561462using AI to code 100% for you
>>529561063>if a dev caters to white, center to right leaning any race of man, or asain menYou're making a game with an art aesthetic catered towards literal children (4-10 y/o). Games for men look like picrel.
>>529555394Thank you anon!
>keep the camera in the direction you're runningWouldnt that be weird? The idea would be to kick off the wall so it would be in the normal direction from the wall. Like your turning to the side?
Maybe I should make it an option
I only watched the first video and thought that I had to model the rest of the well myself, had no idea how todo rope [\spoiler]
>>529561462It's basically when you ask AI to write you a script a dozen times and it keeps producing garbage results and you eventually just write it yourself.
t. Watch Marnix "vibe code" on a stream
>>529542286good color scheme
>>529561645>House Flipper
>>529559929Yeah I dont post that often, I don't usually have anything to say or to share. Also cus my self esteem is low so sometimes I'll write a post then delete it.
>>529560061Thanks, unless it's sarcastic. I spent a while on the shaders, maybe too long
>>529560513thanks, yeah it's pretty slow paced of a game.
>>529558617I think this looks pretty good. it's like a blocky super mario sunshine.
Maybe adding some outlines would help add some contrast, especially in larger areas that use similar colors, but overall I think this looks good, especially if you're going for a gamecube or dreamcast style for color
>>529561462>>529561595A key part of "vibe coding" is not only having AI code for you but also you aren't supposed to manually check the code yourself afterward either, you (or the AI) test the product and if any bugs/errors occur you ask the AI to find and fix it but hardly ever do you yourself look at the code.
However I tried vibe coding and in practice it does not work for anything beyond very basic and worthless projects. The AI quickly becomes confused and enters and endless loop of fixing one bug while causing another.
>>529561063How's your AMC doing? lololol still waiting for it to pop? How much did you lose?
Probably doing about as good as your Mojito-cat clone, huh
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1262140/Rangok_Skies/
This game looks good. Why do you think it performed poorly?
>>529540640nortubel is finished though
>>529561914SHUMP is one of the worst performing genres, right next to 2D puzzle platformers. Also >Mixed
>>529561259So it will replace the fun part and will left you the cleaning like a jannie?
>D-DOES THAT GAME LOOK LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE CARTOONS?! IT HAS TO BE GOOD THEN!
>>529561293no like it will be a blank screen
Why the fuck do people love job simulator games so much?
do you enjoy playing your own game? is this the game dev version of masturbation?
>>529562248back to SomethingAwful
>>529562767At least SomethingAwful didn't get hacked by literal teenagers uploading a .PDF file
>>529496720 (OP)>the guy I commissioned at pixel art is ass at itWell, a shame I'll have to throw him in the trashbin. He was nice, but he's gotta go.
>>529561063this sounds like an ai generated an average /v/ post
so many boxes ticked
get more creative if you want to be a schizor
when eric mentioned nubbys in that podcast it got another 2k reviews
why can't videogames look like autismo EE SOVL simulation over gay faggot normie shit like waifus or fucking lolies or AI porn.
>>529562709Jobs were originally fun and fulfilling until boomers allowed karens to ruin them. Job simulators fulfill the fantasy of what jobs would be like if women didn't exist in the workforce.
>>529562902you mean the sharty?
>>529563053So you're saying I'll be successful if Eric plays my game, enjoys it, and mentions it on the Bobby Lee podcast? How can I make this happen? What other games does Eric like?
>>529561910I switched over to $GME long before that trash CEO fucked over his own share holders. gamestop has been good enough to always go sideways and slightly and slowly up since then still holding strong honestly.
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it's so fucking hot bros
4chan is the constant in your life that is the reason why you ngmi
>>529563479He also enjoyed Balatro. Make a game where every UI element is animated and makes fun sounds. Numbers grow into bigger numbers accompanied by flashing lights.
>>529505327you mean Reelism
can a solodev make a gacha game or do you need connections to lawyers and bankers to pull it off?
>>529563479you'll be successful if you embody the metaphysical good, bro
>>529561857People say that here and iv already said this and il say it again; super mario sunshine has so many locations/areas that have strange 3D models and bad textures especially the last areas that if someone looked at them and you didn't tell them it was a mario game they would have thought it was agdg anons bad godot project.
>>529563053big W for the nepobaby for.........*checks parasocial offtopic tranny shitpost*... signalboosting the already viral fotm gambleslop of that bomb, wow xisters lets make this post again a few times everyone is gonna love it!!!!!
>>529563948don't think so but it helps, i'm trying to make a gacha too but i think i'll be okay as long as i'm transparent and follow the rules
what gacha are you making?
>>529564226Like this pic. Holy shit nintendo must have rushed the development of this game. Iv never seen a behind the scenes development of it but all 4-5 of the last locations look like ass that I can assume ahead of time it was rushed.
>>529564190Number go up = more metaphysical gooder.
Honestly Boko has the right idea
Just keep this a hobby, work on your dream game your whole life, and then there's no pressure it's all just an enjoyable pursuit in your spare time.
I admire the 10 years of work he's putting into the rolling around game
>>529564438Based Tony poster
>>529563948>can a solodev make a gacha game or do you need connections to lawyers and bankers to pull it off?
>>529563754his head is so wide
>>529564860It needs to be in order to contain his massive brain.
>>529561857it's okay anon
the posting is appreciated
>>529556043No honor in digging a hole with a teaspoon
