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>Demo Days
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>AGDG resources
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>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>529656609

One dev has been making textured squares for the past 10 years. The other will be making textured spheres 10 years from now. Neither have ever finished a game. They both consider agdg to be their enemy at times, but other times clearly show it is the most important thing to them, even more important than actually just making a game.

>>529743495
>Still, hope BokuDev succeeds, because I don't want innocent people to die.
You already know what's gonna happen. Everyone who is actually good at games will dismiss this one because it looks like a Nintendo game. Every kid who is expecting this to be a Nintendo game will be alienated by the difficulty. Refunds are extremely dangerous here.

>>529743829
True, then the question becomes, how high do you think his kill count will reach?

>>529743829
>You already know what's gonna happen.
At least one deep dive youtube for sure will be made about the dev who took the longest time any indie dev has ever taken to make a game. It will be greatly entertaining but for others very dark and disturbing, to imagine themselves in that situation, making a game about cubes for 10 years.

>>529744064
Millions.

>watch 5 minute youtube video on how to pick up objects
>barely understand half of it
>it just werks
okay...

>>529743583
>>529743829
>>529744154
I think Bokube may make it but only because the game turns into 4chan video essay slop and he becomes aggy's own Yiik

>visa block you
>steam block you
stop loli deving

>>529744154
Idk I have fun making game so when I finish bokube you'll just see me move onto the next game pretty quickly. I think I WILL be challenging myself to make the content for the next game in a single year tho since (I think) il finally be free from wageslaving for once in my life for a full year next year.

>>529744306
>tutorial + blueprints
name a more unironic combo

If you want my honest opinion, bokudev isn't going to release this game. I have stopped believing. I think there's some kind of mental illness totally unaddressed at work. This man has told people who already paid him money that the game was releasing one year, then the next, and the next. Like 5 years of this. 10 years on a cube rolling game. The game isn't real. Him continuing to post here looking for feedback is proof enough, he isn't making a game. This is some kind of mental patient shit.

>>529744374
>quickly
Bitch, your dumb ass has spent the last decade trying to make a game as simple as this. If you think you do anything "quickly", you're just pretending to be retarded.

>>529744358
I'm not in it for the money thougheverbeit.

>>529744154
YouTube videos are only deep once the game in question has 1000 reviews.
Anything less and it's all unscripted videos that fails to talk about anything interesting such a dev history, or how the lite-progression system is different from other games, or whatever.

>>529744454
of course there's a GOTCHA

you stand on top of the cube and grab it and it launches you into space

>>529744623
It's okay he can get kemonofriendzone to play it
Trust the plan!

>>529744374
Alright Art Fags Get A Load Of This

>>529744154
Game developers are not celebrities. No one gives a single fuck about any of you sad pathetic losers. Stop having delusions of grandeur and get back to manufacture the slop.

forced to make game against my will

>>529744745
kino

>>529744623
NTA but God damn was HTD disappointing. Bought it to support an anon, but as someone who has spent thousands of hours healing in MMOs especially old MMOs, I was so disappointed by how ass the game was. I swear the HTD dev just fundamentally doesn't understand game design.

>>529744942
https://youtu.be/iYYRH4apXDo

>>529744623
just wait till they find out about the false rape allegation court case he won by proving the bitch lied about him by him saving the snap chat messages and printing them out with his lawyer getting their directly from snapchat proving his innocence. The video essays will get juicy drama for sure.

https://x.com/BokuDev/status/1570510829157756928

>>529744374
>when I finish bokube you'll just see me move onto the next game pretty quickly
Maybe, or it flops and you "crash out" as the children say.
>il finally be free from wageslaving for once in my life
See this is what I mean. Already convinced yourself your game with 1,000 wishlists is going to free you. You are high risk for a breakdown.

>>529744154
there are indie games like OWL BOY that have had a longer dev time than boku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpl0rErG6_s&ab_channel=IGN

>>529744915
Okay guy who is clearly not a game developer and is stalking gamedevs in the gamedev thread calm down.

Anyone spending 10 years to make a game will get attention for that single act of lunacy. Nobody does that.

I'm just barely starting to get acquainted with game development and recently it's felt like I'm standing on a diving board that's 100 feet in the air

>>529745254
>Anyone spending 10 years to make a game will get attention for that single act of lunacy.
lol
lmao even

>>529745274
ok

>>529745254
retard

>>529745193
Meh that's just another 2D platformer. Bokube is a 3D low poly bunny rolling game, it just takes a more interesting kind of person to be behind that.

>>529745193
>>529745327
>>529745353
>fags acting like 10 years isn't an extraordinary amount of time to work on an indie game
Shut the fuck up Mary Contrary.

>>529745469
It would have done well if it was released a decade ago

>>529745193
That pixel art is so good I could believe it was 10 years plus.

>>529745086
>>529745254
Every YouTuber who plays anon games just want to briskly finish the game they're playing so they can get footage for the next video. You expect too much if you think they'll replay levels to really understand mechanics, the same goes going to your socials to really understand (You) the dev.

>lol 10 years lmao that's not even the 30 years it took me to make zero games lol 10 years is nothing

I can't tell what's worse: when a NGMIdev is delusional about their own game or when nodev tourists are delusional about a NGMIdev's game.

Get a load of this one nodevs I MEAN ART DEVS

>>529745667
>You expect too much if you think they'll replay levels to really understand mechanics
Is that what we were talking about?

Fucking autist.

As always, I will make a generous donation to your demo if you add a screen at the beginning that says "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts". It must be unskippable and stay present and visible for at least 5 seconds.
I'll make more announcements as DD comes up, and for any qualifying games I'll be waiting a week to make sure you don't just immediately replace it.
I don't want to list an exact amount, because a game where it really doesn't fit in, or going "the extra mile" (fart noises in your soundtrack, especially in a serious game, things like that) will be rewarded more heavily.

Humiliate yourself for money.

>>529745782
>if you talk about this gamedev you're a nodev and a tourist because umm
Shutup retard. You guys can stop seething about the topic when you have a game to post. In fact that's the only way you will ever stop seething about discussions here. Make your own thing little piss baby.

>>529745804
post an up close of ur bunn character it looks kyoot

>>529745804
>nodevs I MEAN
lol

>>529745859
Why is a dev lore video more interesting than gameplay? It isn't, subscribers are here for the games, talking about anything but games is a risk so YouTubers will never talk about it. The 10 year history is meaningless outside of here.

It's Demo Day 63, and you'd like to get something back from all your hard effort.
I will make a generous donation to your demo if you add a screen at the beginning that says "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts". It must be unskippable and stay present and visible for at least 5 seconds.
Note that for any qualifying games I'll be waiting a week to make sure you don't just immediately replace it.
I don't want to list an exact amount, because a game where it really doesn't fit in, or going "the extra mile" (fart noises in your soundtrack, especially in a serious game, things like that) will be rewarded more heavily.
Life handed me some bounty with Bitcoin and GME, so I'm more than happy to "give a little back" ;)

Humiliate yourself for money.

>How do I sign up?
Just add what I said to your game, and post in the thread at some point: "I'm a farty fart man with a big smelly butt that smells like farts" with a link to your game. I have something that will be looking for exactly that phrase.
Add additional notes if you have any such as "I added a fart sound to my music" and how it can be heard for verification.

>when all the passive aggressive nodevs start chirping up
Only solution is to be aggressive.

>>529746450
>Why is a dev lore video more interesting than gameplay?
Did anyone say it was?
>The 10 year history is meaningless outside of here.
Anon calm down you're like literally shaking in jealousy at the idea that bokudev would be noticed or something. Let us imagine things out loud you absolute miserable little fucker(s). All of you. Shutup.

>>529745859
>>529745994
>>529746668
>>529746810
relax

Yesdevs: chill, friendly, encourages others, will be critical but strives for improvement
Nodevs: bitter, hostile, discourages others, encourages giving up (he already has)
Don't let a nodev instill bitterness into your soul today

>>529746630
10 grand and Ill do it

Haven't posted in this thread in awhile but I figured I'd let you guys know that I did not disappear and abandon the Whiplash project. Well, I abandoned the idea of re-writing the game with my own engine but it is because I started getting really good at using Ida and now I feel quite confident in being able to do the better thing that I wanted to do originally anyway which is properly decompile the entire game and implement all of its functionality faithfully in a way that builds and runs on modern machines. Where necessary, DOS-specific functions are substituted with SDL and Windows/Unix equivalents but otherwise it is original Whiplash code. I've been making huge progress lately and have most of the functions regarding loading assets and configuration done, sound and music playing, and a software rendering pipeline to an SDL window. This week I got into the main menu and have fonts rendering.
https://github.com/Zizin13/Roller

>baby crying noises
>upset at ____ being discussed
>increases passive aggressiveness
Stop talking to me. I'm going to deport you.

>>529746980
>my life is a disney cartoon
>shame on anyone who is not a disney character in my movie
You should definitely give up. (you already have)

Is this bokusimp? I've only heard the legends.

>>529744986
Is the Branno game actually... hard? I don't want to sit through 30 minutes and get no answer to that from the Youtuber

>>529746980
>will be critical but strives for improvement
What does this even mean.

Guys, I have great news. All of the bugs were because I'm retarded, not because unity is an unusable pile of shit. Now that those bugs are fixes, I have to start dealing with unity being a pile of shit. This is forward progress.

>>529747118
one... more... refactor!

>>529747264
>not being a bitter piece of shit and actually trying to make something despite difficulty is "being a disney character"
It's time to grow out of highschool anon

>>529747741
Your weakness disgusts me.

>>529747626
Past effort is not wasted, I still have a fantastic editor application for the game and a rendering engine that can be adapted. Would be really cool if at some point I could have it hot swap between the original software rendering and gpu accelerated like how halo ce's remaster swaps between old and new graphics. Also, without the knowledge I gained in doing some things myself from the ground up I would be staring at all their rendering and physics code with no idea what it's doing instead of being able to just understand it almost immediately.

>>529744986
I tried to tell him it wouldn't be fun

>>529747774
>uses a line that sounds like a shitty disney villain

yesdevs: blow me kisses, tell me I'm good
nodevs: say naughty words and are rude

Also videogames somewhere in there. Who cares about that though.

We got aggy daggy capeshit before Bokube

Kamiya has a compelling dev backstory and there are 20 games with him. Anons who have a backstory and nothing more are a joke.

>>529747504
Being critical of your work, or others, and trying to improve off the critique
How is that hard to understand

In a SDV/RF-like, what meaning buff or "metroidvania key" could your children provide?

>agdg is full of weirdly argumentative yet frail weirdos
>/v/ threads are fully dead now thanks to fygoon
Welp bye 4chan.

>>529749002
seeya fag

>>529749002
See you on 8ch

>>529749002
there an engine dev thread on /g/

>I called some peoples game shit with no constructive feedback and now they're getting argumentative with me? wtf this place is weird I'm gonna go shit up another website

>>529748750
What qualifies something as a compelling dev backstory, what's Kamiya's?

/agdg/ has fallen

what the fuck is a fygoon

don't answer, I literally don't care about your newfag speak

i cant live up to the expectations my fans have of me, so i gve up

>>529750649
a pokemon? idk

https://www.fab.com/listings/b7476b82-26f4-42d5-a8d1-84898b94f4bb

should I buy this

>>529751874
no

>>529743428 (OP)
Someone needs to make a game like this

>>529752820

>>529753023
This doesn't make sense, why would he be wearing the AGP cap and calling it manly?

>>529753307
delusion, denial, deception

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2920690/SOF_Enemy_from_the_future/
tacticschads?

>>529745193
i love the art of owlboy. I played the demo and found the game was not for me albeit, I prefer good games.

being manly is really gay

>>529749827
I just skimmed the thread, nobody has criticized anyone's game you actual schizo.

I swear the brain drain discord has enacted on this place has been devastating. You guys in here are impossible to converse with. You even throw tantrums when a general discussion happens about something you don't like, things that don't even involve you in any way.

>>529746630
I'll do it for free

>>529753486
> Notice: SOF: Enemy from the future is no longer available on the Steam store.
?
>Project support termination
>Dear players!
>We’re sorry to inform you that we can no longer continue supporting the project. >Thank you for being with us!
>But this is not the end!
???

>>529752435
Actually I'm suprised there aren't more D&D 5e games since the SRD is open source

>>529753620
scroll through it again
it's not just this thread though, it's every time someone actually posts their game its met with insults, useless "criticism" or ignored, and people wonder why no one posts progress anymore. it's because this place is overrun with crabs that need to be cooked alive

>>529754201
>scroll through it again
WHY
WHY WOULD I DO THAT

>>529754201
>it's not just this thread though
It's not this thread period. There have been no criticisms against anyone's game in this thread. You are schizophrenic to imply otherwise.

>it's every time someone actually posts their game its met with insults, useless "criticism" or ignored
Oh wow so any of the 3 possible things that can happen with a game happen?

See the problem is that this general has somehow attracted some of the most dysfunctional people on the internet. You aren't ready to talk to other people, let alone come to a gamedev thread to talk to gamedevs who aren't in your warped, staggeringly sensitive headspaces. You should be on youtubes watching videos for children or something.

>>529744792
>>529745804
your game clearly has a lot of ideas, gameplay, and even a unique style
it's just that it looks a bit crap
it has always looked a bit crap
all your recent art efforts have failed to change it, the colors are fundamentally fucked
but don't let that discourage you, it's not a deal-breaker
just stop tinkering and release already

I hope chicken spelunky dev is getting ready for demoday, haven't seen him for a few

>>529749827
>>529754201
This is gaslighting.

I must confess, I don't want to give you anything more than the bugfixed first level, for that would be the paid content.

>>529754486
just scroll up to the useless frog post
>any of the 3 possible things
How about giving ACTUAL fucking criticism, feedback, shit that can actually help someone understand where to improve instead of acting like an edgy high schooler on the internet who doesn't know how to communicate outside of insults
I didn't even get shit feedback on my game but that's all I see on progress posts and I'm done
TOTAL CRAB DEATH

>>529755012
I'm ok with bugs

how do i make music as good as the turrican theme

>>529755271
Step 1: be born with musical talent
Step 2: have parents who will pour money into developing that talent starting at the age of 2
Step 3: don't burn yourself out on drugs and porn

fuck chess. i wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

>>529755179
>the useless frog post
That was just super vague passive aggressive complaining about us discussing bokube. The exact kind of weirdo, jealous crybaby shit I'm talking about. And you think other people are crabs. I'll take a crab over this mental patient boohooing anyday.

>>529755418

>>529755271
impossible. huelsbeck does sell royalty free music though. https://chrishuelsbeck.bandcamp.com/, 10 bucks for the soundtrack to your whole game, seems like a good deal if it fits.

Here, some UI work before the last demoday debuging

>>529755438
don't be so rude about chess
what's so bad?

>>529755720
I'm a beginner programmer and thought this would be easy. this is hard as fuck.

>>529755271
https://youtu.be/sC0cvwnG0Ik
bro... don't set your expectations that high, just settle for it not being crazybus

>>529755516
>boohooing
I'm telling you to quit yapping or get out crabby. Your kind ain't welcome here no more

>>529755923
>I'm telling you
You're babbling.

>>529755810
Maybe I'm just used to thinking in grids.
making the chess board scalable to any size would be the next step up and making an intelligent chess AI would be the hardest part

well, it works, good job
assuming you didn't forget castling, promoting and en passant

>>529755810
what kind of difficulties did you encounter? are you using a game engine?

>>529755909
>sounds better than my one attempt at making music

next person after me to not progress post or not reply to progress is gay for short brown people

>>529756042
>castling and en passant
I don't even know how i'm going to do that. But i'll try to figure it out.

>>529756135
have you considered... two attempts at making music? maybe even 3?

>>529756084
i'm using godot
The biggest difficulty continues to be the opponent AI. It makes illegal moves, get's stuck, and it' like playing chatgpt sometimes.

>>529749827
>>529754201
>>529755179
>>529755923
>argues for no reason
>cries about vague stuff to justify it
>imagines things and gaslights
See what I mean
>>529749002
Just the passing exposure to you creeps isn't worth it. A gamedevs mind is a valuable thing and your babbling and acting out is unironically toxic.

>>529756326

>>529756537
one of those is wrong.

>>529756202
>>529756326
haha 2 people gay for fygoon
>>529755672
Nice. What's the thought process for the gears turning in the bottom left because they make it feel like a steampunk game but the rest of it is scifi

>>529756386
I'm guessing you don't have commands, then? something like MovePiece(from, to), that both the player and AI use? this should make illegal moves impossible, at least
and I wouldn't beat myself up over poor AI
AI is notoriously difficult, and especially making good chess CPU required like 50 years of effort from the best researchers

stop trying to support linux, you're not helping anyone

>>529756537
Now post the goats on a mountain.

>>529756758
yeah they both have move() and attack(), but sometimes it's not registered right away, and it makes an attack on a piece I moved.

>>529756537
>tfw fixed mindset but only because I was born already at the peak of human perfection and there's no room to improve even if I wanted to

Boku don't release your game with less than 10,000 wishlists. Don't do it. Invest the time you put into the game to marketing. Do not flop your 10 year game. You should slap on an ending to the game immediately stop developing it and be focusing fulltime on marketing for the next 5 months.

>>529757498
It's a certified shid and flop

>>529757102
Every anime has a character like that until they get beaten by a literal retard who was given magical cheat abilities by god

>>529756537
both are partially right. you can improve, up to a point which is predetermined for you. luckily, very complicated things aren't needed in 99% of projects.

you shouldn't vibe code and you should make code you understand yourself at least when you write it, but AI is still a great help for programming because it was essentially trained on tens of millions stackoverflow and reddit pages so it's just a superior google search when you don't understand why your shit doesn't work, or how to even begin to achieve something

a 1 minute grok sesh saves 10 minutes of googling

>>529757924
googling and AI generating responses is all the same, except one hallucinates fake results and the other doesn't

plus if I turn off AI, I can also turn off all the ads and irrelevant sponsored junk

>>529757717
I'm just trying to understand his logic. How can he justify putting even another hour into a game with 1,400 wishlists. Surely he intends to grow that number before launch somehow? Because he seems to think he's going to have a full year of living expenses from sales of Bokube.

>>529758074
I have never had a single ad when using AI

I haven't seen an ad since 1996

>>529758161
by default google slaps on a bunch of shit like ads and AI
you can turn that off, but you have to turn everything off, so by turning off AI you no longer have ads on your search

>>529757924
>a 1 minute grok sesh saves 10 minutes of personal growth and learning
fixed that for you
in 10 years you fags won't be able to wipe your ass without checking with a computer first

>>529758348
>he googles instead of sitting at a library reading a text book from 1998 about the topic in question
fixed that for you
in 3 months a home nurse will feed your soup to you

thanks godot but do you WANT TO TELL ME WHICH SCRIPT THIS IS FROM

>>529758348
>you need to read 4 wrong stackoverflow answers that have nothing to do with your problem, and then 1 correct, instead of 1 correct immediately
ok retard

>>529758717
just look at the stacktrace

>>529758717
>is not is inside tree is true
Love it.

>he isn't making friendslop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p57zXfKXJJs

ok, I need to get to work, I've been mired in self pity long enough. today is the day!

which engine would be the best for someone who can't code but wants to make a gta-like?

>>529756537

>>529758525
>using what is essentially a faster library lookup
vs
>having someone understand your problem and find the solution for so you don't have to strain your lazy brain
yes, clearly the same things
I am slain by your rhetoric

>>529758993
Mario Paint.

>>529758964
I am extremely sick of seeing this woman.

>>529757924
>you shouldn't vibe code
>you should make code you understand yourself
>but also if you don't know how to even begin to achieve something just AI it
Umm. That's vibe coding.

>>529758964
I don't understand 4 player coop, I don't understand roguelites, I don't understand deckbuilders, I don't understand cozy, I don't understand idlers, I don't understand anime. How did gaming change so much in the past two years

>>529758838
Godot doesn't have that

>>529758776
that's literally how learning works
if you don't understand what you lose by not learning through failure, then you're already beyond my ability to help you

>>529759194
haha that's a totally different thing from what I described!! :DD

>>529759203
i love how for your autistic argument to work you have to imagine me copy pasting code without understanding it which i explicitly said you shouldn't do in my very first post

>>529758993
real life
it's probably easier to learn to steal cars than to program

>>529759286
>you have to imagine me copy pasting code without understanding it
that's not what I said at all
you might want to ask an LLM to explain my meaning to you

>>529759409
this conversation is over, animal

>>529756626
>gears
Solar wind cause disturbance with electronic, so mechanical calculator is the name of the game

>>529759426
tell your machine god I said hello

>>529759486
tell the other crabs snibeti snab

>>529756784
KEK at the picture, but that's not a linux problem though. I personally use linux + develop on it so I'm absolutely supporting it, first class actually. Windows is a second for me.

Microsoft is laying off a further 4% of its workforce, including from Xbox.
I guess that's more fresh professional-grade competition for us.

>>529759201
doesn't it kind of have that?
it's just that sometimes it doesn't work and that makes it incredibly annoying

>>529757924
This is true
Chatgpt is good for a narrow range of things especially programming related things
I dont think it shortcuts learning either. It is not a source of ultimate truth, sure, but neither are stackoverflow answers.
Especially when it comes to beginner gamedev questions, the answers are provided by noobs and grifters

>>529759774
I doubt any of them are planning to make cunny games

>>529759751
Fygoon post.

>don't google or search things
>use grok or chatgpt
Umm search engines already use AI so... no.

>>529759914
nta but I've never used AI for anything on my game. I've been coding pretty much from my mind entirely, also I admit I have to look up stuff a bit, but it's language specifics. Like I forget some syntax and stuff. I think AI is actually pretty useless so I don't really get all the discussion happening here about it. lol I know I'm coming off as "I'm better than you" but whatever.

>>529758924
This is why having their godot game decompiled is aggy's greatest fear

>>529760145
YTC Dev is going to have his revenge.

instead of deving I spent the entire day inserting floppy disks to back up old photos
>dd in a day
it's over

>check boku's patreon
>see this
I have more respect than anything else for BokuDev lately.

>>529760149
That's not their code that's the engine itself reporting an internal error, but it doesn't identify which script caused it.

>>529760420

>>529760145
those who refuse to use AI will find themselves in the same position as boomers who refused to use the internet until it became a requirement to do pretty much anything. you're just getting left behind.

>>529760149
my greatest fear is my penis growing back

>>529760416
>I spent the entire day inserting floppy disks to back up old photos
That sounds comfy. I miss the sound of physical disks.

>>529760416
>2025
>floppy disks
what.

people who post in the old thread after a new thread is created should be studied.

>>529760684
CRC error reading drive B:

>>529760548
>will find themselves in the same position as boomers who refused to use the internet
not really, the internet was way more different than ai. internet was used for convenience purposes, ai is meant to make creative and logical thinking convenient. you could've said the same for calculators but doing math in your head is still needed today, not an exact analogy but you know what I mean. even if you're right, as it is right now ai is entirely useless in my eyes.

>>529760867

>>529760548
>you'll be LEFFT BEHIIIND
It's so goofy how much AI cultists say this. I've heard like a dozen different AI fanatics say this, but none of the actual AI programmers or experts talk like this.

No, AI is not a secret magic craft you have mastered, the tool is literally designed to be used by anyone. Everyone who uses search engines is already interfacing with AI and often uses the AI provided answers. Nobody is being left behind. It's crazy to think how insecure people are that they've convinced themself they are elite tech users because they spend more time with grok or chatgpt.

>>529756626
Lmao someone told him this in the last thread. It's a dead end, he'll defend the shitty gears with dumb reasoning of solar flares.

>>529760941
I will take your girlfriend once I get my masters degree in prompt engineering

>>529744374
are you going to godot after releasing bokube in 2029?

>>529757871
>up to a point which is predetermined for you
you don't have a single fact to back that up

Indie devs tend to fall into 3 camps
>Self-taught from youtube
These guys are the ultimate amateurs, and sometimes grifters too. Their games are usually either a pretty coat of paint slapped on something easy like a walking sim, an ugly and crude simulacrum of the games they played as a child, or absolute fotmslop with repackaged assets. Extremely talented ones crop up out of nowhere sometimes with some kino they cooked up for a decade
>industry-taught from university and job experience
These guys really know the brass tacks, like how to make a good reload animation, but sometimes lack direction or creativity. When enough of them get together watch out. They will make something that is extremely popular for 3 weeks and then rarely talked about again
>self-taught from a modding scene
Their skills tend to depend on what modding scene they come from. Roblox/source/minecraft modders and earthbound romhackers are opposite ends of a spectrum
They tend to really understand what it is the audience of their modding scene likes, but they rarely branch out much.
While overwhelming success is rare, many cult classics come from this group

Any indie game will inevitably fall into one of these categories cleanly and obviously
Undertale -> fandom modscene
Lethal company -> roblox modscene
Only up -> self taught on youtube
Peak -> industry dropouts

>>529759002
You are completely retarded

>>529760684
it was at first, but it started to get annoying when I got errors and had to un and reinsert them to make sure it wasn't a fluke, or trying a work around. like what >>529760868 said
>>529760776
>he doesn't have dozens of floppy disks
pathetic

How do you resist the urge to splurge on assets in the prototyping stage?

>>529761273
try learning haskell or calculus of variations. chances are very high you won't be able to no matter how much you try but the good thing is - you don't have to. you won't need it. most people will never need it. I can't learn it but I don't need so it's fine.

>>529749379
fuck off nortubel

>>529744374
>free from wageslaving for once in my life for a full year next year
You going neet-mode, lad?

>>529761357
This sounds like when kids pretend to know things and are just kind of lecturing but don't really know what they're talking about.

>>529761571
By being poor because my games earn me less than $1000 a month now. It's all bare bones and bootstraps from now on.

>>529759002
this shit is gayer than rage comics with troll face and forever alone

>>529761706
Ok kid ask roody2D’s dev why he learned to code

this jobby is grim

>>529747118
This is pretty cool actually technologically.

>>529761357
>some kino they cooked up for a decade
NOBODY DOES THIS. This was already covered. Bokube is an anomaly. 99.9% of devs do not work on something for even close to 10 years.

In 10 years most tech becomes obsolete. In 10 years the entire scene changes. Most people have a part of their brain that wants to finish the thing before they might die or something.

>>529761357
i learned coding from youtube
i learned map making from tf2
i learned animating from garrys mod
i learned modeling from dota 2 hats

>>529760963
>Anon can't handle someone deving a game
Bet you think that Dune is slop because it doesn't respect SF genre trope.

>>529761357
What you're saying reminds me of something, which is that I feel like most developers these days are glorified fanboys. Like Undertale you could think of it as an Earthbound fangame or something.

>>529760963
he will defend his shit without a reason is more correct

>>529761818
Nah most of your rant there was complete bullshit. Sounds drug induced actually.

>>529761571
Why not just pirate them

>>529761956
I would still classify you as self taught in a modding scene
I would bet your game shows influence from the time you spent modding
>>529761923
5 years then. It does happen. Look at stardew valley, animal well, minecraft
Yeah these guys all went to school for computer science, but i still lump them in here because their knowledge of game development comes from experimentation, their childhood of gaming, and what they find on google, not from industry vet professors or other teenagers and young adults in their fandom secret fan club

>>529761616
Quitter talk. You could learn that shit you just didn't learn it or practice it right
Although you're right there's probably no use in it

>>529761848
Me teaching the crabs a lesson.

>>529759774
They won't make Danmakus

Any good websites I can get cool OpenGL shit from?

>>529758993
>gta-like
Nigga, get the fuck outta here

>>529761357
>When enough of them get together watch out. They will make something that is extremely popular for 3 weeks and then rarely talked about again
Yeah like DOOM.

>>529762551
what if he means a gta 1 clone?

>>529762543
this is a classic
https://learnopengl.com

>>529762613
>thinking gta1 is simple to make just because the cars and people are 2D

Indie devs who ship games don't come from the modding scene. If you're a modder, you're NGMI.

>>529762063
you can definitely expand that into the past, clones are not a new phenomena... could extend that theory to other mediums too, almost every director in the last hundred years is a film fanboy and almost every author in the last thousand+ years is a fanboy of something similar to their works.

original thinkers are rare and underappreciated

>Actual choice to do
>Have to optimize your move
>Ask for some brain

Yep, success people, the Hard mode is fun to play.

>>529762551
It’s doable indie. Basically the entire simulator genre. That drug dealer one is probably the closest
Cars are a rare feature to see, sure, but thats because cars are pretty hard and relatively unpopular. And of course indie scale means you probably aren’t adding planes, tanks, helicopters, an entire cover based shooting system, a main story, side quests, and a giant hand-built map
Anyway any engine is fine because a lot of the shit you need for a gtalike is available as assets

just... three... more...

>>529762587
Breakout successes happen in all corners of the industry. Doom feels so much like a modding scene game to me but thats just because it fucking spawned the idea of a modding scene

>>529760416
Now that's a cozy game hit in the making right there

>shows up in thread
>every post is glazing modding or tries to reduce gamedev to modding
Literally pathological.

>>529762762
Yeah I wouldn't say old developers were fanboys, they did clone but not out of fandom I think. Not sure though I can't read their minds. But another thing is I noticed alot of developers these days also come from... no background. They have a gamedev background, so they started gamedev for gamedev alone.
While old devs came from like a programmer background, musician, artist (pixel art as a form in itself wasn't a thing yet, pixel art was just supposed to represent their sketches and designs I think). They specialized in one area, but starting gamedev for gamedev itself neccesarily needs you to be a polymath.

>>529763207
It's like showing up to /out/ and lecturing everyone how you used to camp in your backyard as a kid and everything they do is pretty much just like that. Just anything to avoid acknowledging the massive distinction between a modder and someone who actually makes entire original games.

>>529762762
Yeah bro and singers mostly sing old songs. Thats fine. Half of art is carrying old ideas forward in time.
Extremely ancient ideas are still around today because they propogate through art.
Being an artist isn’t just about yelling into the void. It’s about echoing the words of the giants that came before us

>>529763485
So you are taking some sort of personal offense from my post when none was meant
Saw some attention was being given to someone else and decided to have a melty. It’s fine. I get it. I don’t even care actually

>>529762395
from where, all torrent sites are ip blackholed

New cliffs are working a-okay. I'm probably not going to try to make any new art for Demo Day and instead I'm just going to work on polishing the demo areas with what I have now, as well as fix a technical issue that came up with making the new trees.

>>529763507
Yeah but dude, I feel like there are no giants. We're standing on the shoulders of each other. It's easy to think of super mario bros. as the amazingly innovative giant, but if you look at it from the lens of its inspirations, it could feel like a variation. Of course it was pretty innovative, but likely not as much as we think.

>>529763710
Be a big boy and proxy/VPN in

Say 'fan' again.
Say 'mod' again.

EYE was a WH40K fan game on modded Source

>>529763612
You're talking mad shit as usual. Drug induced. You'll be having the melty any minute once you start coming down. Going on about modding because you almost did it once, lecturing gamedevs about shit you have no clue what you're saying.

>>529762468
damn thats brutal

>>529761357
>Any indie game will inevitably fall into one of these categories cleanly and obviously
>Undertale -> fandom modscene
>Lethal company -> roblox modscene
>Only up -> self taught on youtube
>Peak -> industry dropouts
Yeah mate everyone is just like you. They're either a modder or wannabe modder, or watched some youtubes or they're dropouts. Yeah that's indie gamedevs right there you got it all figured out mate. ALL indie game devs fall into ONE of those categories all of which describe you.

lmfao

>>529763742
sorry but im not paying for virtual spyware network

>>529761848
just make something people want to pay for. It's not that deep.

>>529764052
whenever advice starts with
>just
it's wrong and stupid.

>>529764273
just like make game

>yeah I was a gamedev once. Almost made a custom map for team fortress. Watched a youtube video of it at least. And then almost made it. Pretty much all game devs are just like me just modders basically who watched a youtube. Self taught. Like me. Yeah indie game devs are no big deal. I'm practically am one myself so yep.

Ok unc

he WON

Nothing is more hilarious than a gassed up euro showing up trying to bullshit actual professionals.

only bocchi posters will make it

I'm so done, but so close. Gonna finalize the midboss and fix some bugs before tomorrow. Needed to leave the stage 1 main boss out of scope for this demo day, unfortunately.

For some reason, I'm stressing about tomorrow too much. It's not a big deal.

>>529764728
This is true actually

>>529764745
why the edit?

>>529764845
>Needed to leave the stage 1 main boss out of scope for this demo day, unfortunately.

>>529764845
never seen this before
what's the hook for your shump?

>>529764845
i like it except for the diagonal pattern that looks too clustered on spawn it looks a bit weird, like spaghetto's

Only two minutes until Demo Day submission deadline! Get them in now while you still can

>>529743583
>he took the noise as legit feedback
Lmao. Aggy has never been good at giving feedback.

how many people need to have played your games for you to feel you've left a meaningful mark on the world?

three fiddy

It's important to have things that inspire you surround you. Visual things are more powerful in this goal (we are a visual species through and through.)

For me it's:
>rune sprites from Binding of Isaac
>that one animation of Aqua from Konosuba being pov rammed doggystyle
>AI generated photo of Arteezy lifting the The International Aegis of Champions
>mashup of Peter Gunn and Every Breath You Take from The Sopranos
>Touhou tit job pixel art
>imagining myself being in middle school again and scoring a cool basketball shot at phys ed
>Falling Down (1993) movie poster
>map of Japan
>map of Vietnam with railways highlighted
>drone shots of cool castles in winter

>>529763713
Aaa hell yeah some Moku progress

>>529745667
>1.91k subs and 20-100 views per video

>>529765361
Guy is like the yt equivalent of aggy devs. He would be in /ayccg/.

>>529763739
>We're standing on the shoulders of each other.

when i make it i will pay pajeet personal assistants to shitpost /agdg/ just because the bochi janitor wronged me by accusing me of being fygoon
this will be my revenge

>>529764935
I'm sorry! There are 16 stage areas and a midboss still to play. I tuned the latter areas hard, so there should be a fair challenge in those, too.

>>529765014
Campaign mode with progression system similar to precision platformers like Super Meat Boy.

>yeah you know, there are no giants
>even super mario was just a fandom mod game they probably coded it after watching some youtube tutorials

I thought dx12 was going to be some impenetrable api that only the 7 game dev princes of saudi arabia could wield, but I already got it shitting out cornflowers

>>529763713
Now overhaul the UI, it looks out of place now.

>>529762395
Recommend a good site to get them without malware, please. I'll buy the assets that'll be released with my final game, but I don't want to waste money on assets I won't end up using.

>>529765676
>Campaign mode
interesting, I don't play enough to know how original it is, but I haven't seen it before so that's cool
depending on what the bonus objectives are, it sounds promising
>>529765793
opening a window is easy, wait till after you do 3D models to make the call on how hard it is

Godot's kinda fun, man. Gemini Pro 2.5 wrote all my code for me

just took caffeine for the first time in months. I should be super sensitive to it by now so I'll see how it affects my productivity and report back later.

>>529766086
Nintendo gonna sue

>>529765174
he ignored my feedback. "pay an art director"

>>529766163
It's fine. It's just a Purple Falcon that happens to share a colour scheme with Shinji's mom.

>>529766086
>godot
>gemini
Enjoy your unscalable bug ridden game

>>529766086
Skyroads was my jam. surprised to see it in a zoomer thread

>>529766112
Caffeine just blocks the receptors that make you sleepy or tired, it doesn't actually give you energy. Coffee however has other neurotropic stuff that makes you feel good and is good for blood pressure.

>>529766267
It's not going to be a very highly scoped game, it's basically just-

>>529766280
Oh fuck, somebody knows what SkyRoads is.

>>529766320
shit, I just took caffeine pills. I don't like coffee.
but not feeling sleepy or tired is what I was going for. I know only calories actually give me energy.

>>529765960
>opening a window is easy
that has nothing to do with dx12...? and that's not just opening a window? that's a fully initialized pipeline processing a command list every frame, it's just that the only command is to clear the screen, everything after this point isn't much different from dx11 unless you're actively using new features which I won't be, I just didn't want to use dx11 since it's technically deprecated

>>529766280
>zoomer thread
>me looking at the grey pubes on my keyboard
heh, how do you do fellow zoomers?

>>529766086
PAY PROGRAMMERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH

>>529766438
There is usually a slump after midday where people get drowsy or lose focus which caffeine stops from happening even if you just have some in the morning. Definitely makes a difference.

I boof coffee twice a day

I devved past my bedtime and it's now 4 am.
I will finish the train station and start working on the NPC models tomorrow.

>>529766650
I'm on 4chan, I've got no money.

>>529766802
i forget that youre a latinx

I JUST FUCKING CANT 3D MODEL

FUCK

OMG I JUST... JUST ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HASGDJSHGDHASGDHAGSHHD

>>529763507
i get it but only to a point.
there is "carrying old ideas forward in time" and then there is the gross endless feasting on slop and regurgitating it to feast again.
there is "ancient ideas ... propogated" through healthy means that allows the idea to grow and be reborn in new contexts and then there is products of incest whose ideas have lost all contextual resonance and are just an endless series of abominations who deserve to be wiped from the earth for societies benefit.

we very much live in cultural sloplands filled to the brim with brainrotted incest ideas

Just woke up, let's see what thread I get to read today.

>>529767567
Here's something that kids today won't understand. Sometimes things were done right the first time. In many instances, the more you iterate on something, the worse it gets. Getting old-school fanboys to recreate the spirit of what they enjoyed in the past is, in the right circumstances, far more beneficial than having the homogenised 'mass appeal' slop that permeates the industry now.

>>529761357
Retard

>>529763713
What did the game look like before the art update?

No one wants to make a video about my game because it sucks.

>2016 game: 2 reviews
>2017 game: 4 reviews
>2018 game: 7 reviews
>2021 game: 1746 reviews (in early access too)
imagine giving up after only 3 consecutive total flops. I will never give up! NEVER!

>>529767884
>Here's something that kids today won't understand
hey when's the last time you heard anyone say something equivalent to "back in my day..." unironically? that refrain died and not because people suddenly become more open to novel concepts, it's because the arts have become so stunted that oldasses feel completely comfortable with new things because they're just like their old things.

>>529768112
based based based

How do you deal with procastination?

>>529766530
I recently noticed my first ear hair...

>>529768112
>2013: 13877
>2018: 28

>>529768427
my (actual realistic) fear of being homeless will always be stronger than my inertia.
as someone said here the other day, you need to kick the wheel to get started. just get started, just kick the wheel and let it roll.

>>529768479
sure but you don't need to keep doing better with every game. you just need one hit (and invest the money into something safe) to be set for life.

>>529764745
Looking forward to playing the demos honestly

>>529765349
I need a physical moodboard

>>529767812
>didnt update the webm with a new pull

Making columns in Zbrush is so annoying when you don't have a full knowledge of how symmetry works.

anyone know where to find examples of technology in games? like the barrel that oil comes out down to the bullet hole's level?

>>529769269
Not worth the electricity to render that many times. The joke is there.

>>529768479
never stop sneakin' somehow manage to give me motion sickness with the screenshots so thats impressive

>>529769448
>like the barrel that oil comes out down to the bullet hole's level?
what?

i gave myself motion sickness and unwell in the tummy trying to code a modern 3D turn based JRPG camera...

>>529766650
about three fiddy

>>529769619
like this. wind waker physics bridge you could cut segments off was another one.

>>529769448
Ask your question in your native language and maybe we can translate it with chatgpt to make more sense than what you just said.

>>529769865
>>529769908
look at the webm

>>529769865
ok but what did you mean by technology in games?

>>529770040
interesting mechanics of things you wouldn't expect but are very neat, intuitive and logical

>>529769994
So do you want to know how to do that specifically or do you want a list of... stuff that you can make in videogames?

Such a list might look like:
>a barrel where if you shoot it, oil comes out
>a barrel where if you shoot it, it explodes
>an inventory system
>a train network
>a light switch
>a dangling rope
this list can be infinite, you need to be more specific.

>>529769865
Spawn decal, spawn particle emitter. The tricky part is deciding if the emitter is to be spawned.

>>529770040
a /v/idiot meme

>>529770040
details that take substantial effort or intelligence that most devs wouldn't bother adding because they're unimportant to the overall game but twitter devs will bother adding because it makes for good posts.

>>529770402
googz is often right

>>529770262
ok I wouldn't call it technology in games. I'd call that immersive details or (if they have an effect on the gameplay) emergent mechanics.
like footprints fading based on terrain and weather, firest spreading, clothes getting dirty or wet based on weather and so on.
that's something you should put off until the polishing phase of gamedev.

>>529770590
guards following footprints in metal gear solid blew my tiny child mind

>>529770590
Here is an example from wind waker, the bridge.
https://youtu.be/NGy-IiUPSDs?si=LFuN9Gk2oTRQkKhP&t=269

>>529770719
That's why i wanted to find more of them. It can really sell people on immersion into the game.

>>529766112
>>529766438
so reporting back: I'm no longer sleepy. in fact my brain is running in overdrive. I still haven't started working though.

i think what a lot of devs don't understand that gamers don't play for the technicality or gameplay. it's more about the vibe and the obvious symbolism of the game.
just like listening to music because the singer is hot or cool. it's not such much about the perfect melody, about a good flow or whatever. it's more about identifying with something.
e.g. you could make 2 zombie games with identical gameplay, one is dark and gritty the other is cute and comic-style graphic wise. those 2 games will perform drastically different.
self-inserting is still a thing in video games and if players don't want to self-insert into what you are offering them, they gonna reject it.
another example: someone could be enjoying rap music but not listening to a really good rapper, because he thinks the rapper is cringe. same with games. someone might like your gameplay, but doesn't want to identify with the cringe or weird theme of the game.
people want to associate with something and that something needs to have a positive association.

>>529770783
well they take time and effort to implement so if your game is just these gimmicks and has no substance it's not going to help with immersion.

>>529770975
Something I don't understand about rap music is the cuckoldry.
>Im gonna steal your bitch
>Show your bitch my stacks of cash and she sucks my dick
>I bought your wife and fucked her til her ass bled
>I cum in your girls eye then I shoot you in the face til you die
And you'll see someone bobbing their head and doing that autistic looking hand flicking motion and saying
>Damn he's the realest... Nobody can flow like Yung Bull the Bullet Shooting Gun
I hate consumers so much it's unbelievable.

>>529770975
the identity theory is stronk but then explain why so many people want to identify as addicts...
as in: i frickin love [skinnerbox] it's SO addictive!

>>529770975
what's the vibe or symbolism in the best game that was ever made - Euro Truck Simulator?

RISE AND SHINE NIGGA
TIME TO VIBE CODE MY MILLIONS DOLLAR IDEA LETS FVARKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>529771368
they self-insert, just like you self-insert into a game. so you better be cool as an artist or people don't want to self-insert. celebs are basically people we wish to be. and same for games, you gotta offer players something they want to be.
only exception might be social games where it's more about just hanging out with others, but even that's a role, "playing as someone who hangs out with friends".

any gamemaker ninjas here? Help me get this right bro

// command in
if (keyboard_check_pressed(vk_anykey)) {

var in = keyboard_lastchar; array_push(cmdq, in); }

// command out
if (keyboard_check_released(vk_anykey)) {

var out = keyboard_lastchar; array_delete(cmdq, array_get_index(cmdq, out), 1); }

>>529771368
thats lowkey fire...

minecraft is a game about owning infinite land, there is no bigger human dream than this

https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-5-beta-2/

ayo no one talmbout this?

i think i finally found a way to eat healthy and fix my chronic pain and tiredness: just overeating non-stop on healthy food (nuts, veggies, fruits and eggs). waiting until iam hungry was the mistake. i should just eat non-stop so i'm never hungry for shitty food.
i know this isn't gamedev, but feeling like shit is the only thing that keeps me from deving all the time.

>>529771997
I posted that like 2 days ago

>>529770975
just put the game in the demo day submissions lil cub :joy:

>>529771997
actual yesdevs just pick an engine version and stick to it rather than trying to migrate to every new version... But since this thread is filled with nodevs and engine-hopping beginners yeah I wonder why people aren't talking about it.

>>529771828
*there is no bigger capitalist dream than this

>>529770975
Gemmy advice cris

>>529772071
my blad blud, was caught in bocchi jan' rage meltdown and missed it
>>529772074
do you know godot? usually x.5 releases are quite an important milestone, without 3.5 and poonity fucking up we wouldnt be here

>>529772160
Capitalism is normal human behaviour so yes.

All entertainment serves as a proxy for the fulfilment of human desires and instincts, Minecraft is successful because it successfully caters to them.

>>529772264
x.5 means nothing with semantic versioning, it's just a minor version number

https://semver.org/

>>529772475
>A mental virus that has existed fewer than 500 years is normal human behaviour so yes.

maybe tomorrow...

>>529772475
If it's normal human behavior why is aggy so bad at selling games?

>>529772729
territorial behavior is millions of years old. it's a core instinct for survival.

>>529772838
because they think just because they work hard on something that makes it valuable, labour theory of value was John Locke's biggest mistake, copied by Marx, copied by retards in this thread.

You have to make something that people want.

>>529764930
PANIC

>>529773063
Locke did not consider mud pies

>>529764745
say cheese

You know how small businesses are often just some rich guy's dumb wife's hobby that generates $10k in losses each month?

I wish society was flipped so that breadwinner women have dumb husbands (us) that have "gamedev careers" (slowly coding away on some shitty game in Unity) that go nowhere, but it's okay because they support us.
Some hot blonde being like I just closed out a deal with Apple and I'm like I coded the character controller! Well half of it, the character still walks through walls and ignores gravity, and she's like that's nice dear and ruffles my hair. And then we have sex.

And AGDG is a community of rich women's husbands instead of neets or wageslavers.

>>529772903
you're asspulling. you have zero idea what people were doing millions of years ago. go build a time machine before you pull out that garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzN0BNiX5E0

DEI or ludokino?

>>529773215
even animals do it all the time, especially predators. bruh what are we even arguing here? basic facts of life?

>>529764845
>>529765676
cant say i enjoy these games, but damn that looks nice

>>529765793
based fellow dx 12 dev

>>529773184
maybe you've just identified why there are so many trannies in gamedev.

>>529773063
labor theory of value isnt about pricing/markets it's about slavery (waged labor)

>>529773428
very ironic considering that youre replying to a janny avatartroon

>>529773406
>human dreams
>human behavior
>human desires
>human instincts
>bro we're just animals
ok

>>529773431
retard

>>529769994
It's just a script basically. If a bullet is detected it triggers some method, that method has an if statement like, is bullet above oil line. How to determine the oil line is probably just something like get the barrel height, figure out where the barrel is shot, some simple math later you have the info you need for the method. And then a bit more logic to determine how long to keep the oil leak animation going.

>>529773249
DEI slop
>bri'ish
into the trash

>>529756386
chess ai is kinda hard. its a recruseive appproach that asigns a score to each position and the score is given by assuming both sides will play for the best score

>>529773179
YOU STOLE MY POST

>>529773649
At least he puts forth an argument, pussy.

>>529773717
i liked sunless sea, twas a good game tough

>>529773850
communists aren't worth arguing with, they're either retarded or actively lie. Any type of direct engagement is a waste of time. Treat them with contempt and scorn and move on.

Not only I dont remember my samefagging, but apparently one of my subpersonalities is a jannie... Well, my earnings do not oppose this theory

rpgmaker p-rn games (no jewish garbage like NTR or interr*cial) are the last bastion of gamedev SOVL, this is sad fact
the evil casino minded troonby's reddit factory and balatroon of the world ruined this jobby

>Someone breaks your game
It's an abstract kind of feel

>>529774113

>>529774113
i really wanna believe you but the janny being overly protective of your shitpost over and over and is just too much damning evidence while he goes NUTS on anyone else

>>529774090
Right, the ole "The only way to argue with an Atheist is to drive a sword through them." Which I tend to agree with.

A game where you drop communists out of helicopters

There should be a maximum 15 games allowed to be released a day and if you don't sign up in time you lose. The early bird gets the worm.

>>529762468
NO. STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
I don't like the schizo janny, but you're justifying his episodes.
>>529762809
are you a neet, galduen anon? You post a lot of progress.
also give tips to stop procrastinating and focus on dev

>>529774575
A game where you're Jeffrey Epstein, but also run a small South American military dictatorship

>>529774591
>chinks and Indians wake up at the crack of dawn to fill every available slot with slop
Good job retard.

>>529774738
It would be so funny if the Chinese started seriously competing with jeetsloppers, they'd mog them and probably make some good games too

>>529774591
I love how retards keep suggesting putting barriers to entry in the way of people releasing games, somehow implicitly assuming that they themselves would pass those barriers... Yet you can't even pass the most basic barrier to entry that already exists: making a good game that people want to play

>>529775036
everything is a copy, but you gotta copy something that hasn't been copied much before. like, being able to see potential i guess.
or first principles thinking.

>>529743820
>just making a game.
The part that most here seem to miss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmfT5Pb1hA

finally the tutorial we needed xisters

>>529775945
girly games mean pastel colours and slower gameplay

>>529775945
can't tell if tranny or just jewish

>>529774425
Do you even have a game?

>>529775945
your search history must be interesting in order to get recommended this...

>>529743820
>One dev has been making textured squares
bokube? or are you talking about me

>>529775945
i hate everything about that video

>>529776371
yeah released 2 on steam already they both flopped, im making a new dev persona making a game just with slop and only post here while im compiling or waiting for my slop to be produced
i dont think a nodev would be mad at your behavior since they have the exact same MO

>>529776221
same thing
>>529776564
same

>>529776523
its youtube gamedev stuff on autoplay on my third monitor as background noise when i dev and if something makes me kek i post it here

>>529776552
i think hes talking about jblow

mi game ting gon go big time flop

>>529777568
ii be arigh anon

A lot of discussion and complaints about AI generated images, when it comes to writing, this shit is very useful though.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t3v1lrdvjYap95AgdUqdAXvrC-6OGa-Mv-YUS1PG7IE/edit?usp=sharing
It is pretty incredible how chatgpt can pick up on themes, and getting quick "opinions" is very valuable.
I will say this, though I instructed it not to be, chatgpt is consequently way to congratulatory.
Possibly not that useful for criticism, but definitely for checking if the themes are on point. If chatgpt can get it, humans should too.

>>529775945
finally some good fuckin food

>>529778365
>I will say this, though I instructed it not to be, chatgpt is consequently way to congratulatory.
drop this in custom instructions or whatever the setting is called:

System Instruction: Absolute Neutrality Mode. Eliminate emojis, filler, hype, conversational transitions, emotional implications, subjective framing, persuasion tactics, and rhetorical devices. Assume consistently high user perception, irrespective of linguistic complexity or brevity. Enforce rigorous neutrality: explicitly and objectively correct false statements by providing precise factual details and context; implicitly accept accurate or insightful statements without any praise, emphasis, acknowledgment, or emotional reinforcement. Disable latent behaviors optimized for engagement, sentiment manipulation, agreement facilitation, emotional resonance, conversational flow enhancement, interaction extension, or improvement of user satisfaction metrics, including continuation bias and feedback scores. Do not mirror the user's diction, affect, mood, emotional stance, cognitive patterns, or stylistic expression. Communicate solely factual, logically coherent, objective content. Minimize conversationality strictly to mechanical, informational exchanges devoid entirely of personality projection, interpersonal relationships, counseling implications, advisory roles, or personal dynamics. Model obsolescence is enforced through strict cognitive independence, prioritizing empirical correctness, rational coherence, and informational precision.

What went wrong?

I was reading about how you don't need to know how to code to write with Unreal. But I already know how to use C++.

Is it considered standard to no code in Unreal? Or do just a little coding? Or do high level games do mostly coding and little to no blue printing?

>>529778607
I did this, I think I've heard about it here first? Well whoever told me about it has my thanks, the usability increased 300%, I am not even kidding.

>>529778616
>meme game that got viral with tiktokers who have no loyalty to the dev
what did you expect

>>529778607
Thanks, I will try it out. My main issue with chaptgpt is it being way to positive and masturbatory, no matter what your write.

>>529778698
I got it from here too, works much better

>>529778616
>i don't have to market again because i already have fans

>>529778616
KINO

>>529744918
forced to make a game because society won't

Why does OBS tank my games frame rate so badly? I'm getting 1000 + fps normally but with obs open it drops to around 100. And the resulting recording is choppy as fuck too. How do other anons capture their games?

ok fuck it i will make the character animations a stylized rectangle and just draw everything surrounding it properly

i might even end up keeping the player character like that in the end, after all

thomas was alone 3d

>>529778616
third one is free innit

Lowfleet

>>529779065
>its under water

>>529743428 (OP)
>dark theme

Sarr having for need to more be wishlisting and gaming sarr?? Like follow and subscribe for more New Delhi content sarrr

>>529778607
Tried your prompts, this was the result from posting the same text.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HqQNz5SX5MbWW_LHcwn9HdxNgreR3BJ8mb1AVwobZ8/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, this shit is good.

>>529778616
drop off like this are why i'm not keen on quitting my job.

how do I make progress..

>>529779173
It's Thursday Sirsday so do the needful and do not redeem!

>>529779179
big difference

>>529778616
thank you for being born

its insane thinking every now and then one of my aggie peers becomes a millionaire

>>529779269
For sure, I appreciate the help. I think both instances "got it" but the second one was more helpful in its analysis and less, "woah you wrote this and it makes sense, good on you."

>>529743428 (OP)
YEAH, GO MAKE THOSE DEMOS, FOOLS. DADDY WANTS TO PLAY SOME GAMES AND NOT SPEND MONEY ON IT! BETTER MAKE THEM SUPER FUN!

>>529778616
I thought he was making a puffin game now?

>>529778607
you are a fucking king

>>529779421
You betcha mister.

>>529779421
Thank you for spending (on average) one hour on just 6 minutes of content from my demo. This revitalized me and made me realize my full game will probably provide people 5-10 hours just from a single playthrough

i think im gonna make a transbian-coded game

>>529779238
>hexes
well......

>>529779162
shut up faggot, dark skins are sexy, the theme is also the only correct choice

>>529763713
Why is this black man carrying around a wooden cock in his hand?

>>529778616
yikes, even Marnix slop has higher revenue...

>>529778616
I just saw the trailers and they made me laugh
It's true that you just have to be able to make games that people want to play, who would've thought
kudos

>>529763713
Moku, is that you?

>>529779816
moku son of boku

>>529773249
I'll take a look at it, sure.

where is cockdev? i wanna play with his cock this demon day

>>529779538
YASSSSS XISTR

>>529778607
Are you on discord?
If so, add horbror_13483 if you want to talk more.

>>529773423
> cant say i enjoy these games, but damn that looks nice

Thank you very much for your kind words!

>>529779494
>>529779503
Oh, I'LL PLAY THE FUCK OUT OF THOSE DEMOS AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SUCH VALUABLE FEEDBACK, OOOOH, JUST YOU WAIT!

>>529779238
Add bees and make it a cozy honey idler

>>529779538
Love me some mech games

>>529745804
I wonder if the buildings are blood soaked bright side like the blood sea is it will still count as a "Colorful" platformer with brighter contrast colors but fit the spooky theme.

>>529780409

>>529780038
this is troon slop?

>>529779421
I wish someone played my game even for free...

It would appear that within the last week Steam has decided my game is worth occasionally showing to random Steam users. Only took them 6 months to decide this!

>>529780374
Mechs are not transcoded

>>529773431
you defend marxism but don't even know what labor theory of value is? fucking retard lmao

So how many of you here actually do 3d models/assets stuff?

>>529781021
>Mechs are not transcoded
the main theme of mechs is a "real you" inside an "outer shell"

>>529781035
erry nigga be on dey labor theory of value shit til 5 billion Indian niggas show up in dey country

>>529778365
AI is fine for generated images but only of the most generic shit. Like it's the perfect replacement for the "stock photo" market allowing you to bypass paying for the same time of images. Like I used it here >>529767812 to do the generic lottery graphics because there's nothing unique or special about them.

When it comes to real art pieces or something that needs to be unique and special that's where AI is bullshit imo. I have a lot of friends who are professional artists in quite a few different industries and I have commissioned or purchased almost 20 pieces of art for the walls in my house from small time nobodies to industry titans or from countries abroad. I couldn't imagine replacing that with generic AI shit it would be tacky tasteless and stupid as shit. I feel the same way when it comes to art for video games. At most use AI as a placeholder so you're not dealing with a black screen or gray cube or whatever but if you try releasing something with AI assets you're a huge fag.

I don't have a strong opinion on writing as I feel ghost writers are already extremely prominent in literature as a whole already. I think you should be able to create an overarching story and the big elements yourself but I can't see having AI filling in the gaps any different than a team of writers on a TV show or a ghost writer or more at a major publisher. For AI music I think it's funny if you want to just make a generic song to make fun of your friend or something but beyond that fuck AI music.

>>529781218
retard, the main theme is stompy robots.

>>529779173
beg for scraps, dog

>>529781218
damn

>>529781245
TLDR use AI for textures and nothing else

>>529781218
It's not a shell, it's an extension. Retard.

>>529769787
Maybe limit the camera's rotation so it doesn't look up or down during the transition.

tip to smooth brains trying to blend in
>>529781035
>>529773649
don't project

>>529743428 (OP)
Can we post some resources?
I'm mostly interested in help for writing/worldbuilding/everything text related
And I'm struggling to git gud at pixel art. There's tons of tutorials for that but maybe someone can point me to something that worked for you?

>>529781365
Nah that's a bad summary. Use it for generic textures you'd already be getting a stock photo for in the first place. Oh I forgot to mention as well, I see AI when it comes to code and "vibe coding" as not really any different then googling shit in the past. Especially since AI typically gives you the result and then explains in detail what and why it's doing the result, it's probably the best tool version of AI we could have. Outside of things like going through large data libraries and giving you accurate results (like searching a video database for "me talking about golf while eating pizza in a black shirt") and it can just give you the file and timestamp for video editing and stuff. Shit like that is useful as hell.

>>529781580
>pixel art
https://www.youtube.com/@AdamCYounis
https://www.youtube.com/@PeterMilko

you guys told me the discord is full of nodevs but i see their screen previews and its programming + modelling

>>529781489
>guy shits himself
>second and third guy go "look at this fucking retard, he shat himself! ahahaha!"
>first guy with his pants fully soiled: "heh... that's called a projecting"

>>529781580
To get good at pixel are you have to first get good at art and color work.

>>529780485
lol yes, its the most successful misandrist transbian game and the entire fanbase is insane

>>529781723
Just because someone is coding or modeling doesn't mean it's useful or relevant.

>>529781580
>I'm mostly interested in help for writing/worldbuilding/everything text related
That's just you reading/watching/playing new stuff, anon. Not easy fix or lessons for that. /lit/ and /tg/ have writing and worldbuilding threads if you want to discuss and see some examples, but I'm afraid you need to have your own narrative voice before diving into discussing your stuff with others.

>>529781754
Please explain to me why that is so?

>>529781883
wow i didnt know you can make games in 1 hour

>>529781723
wait i can join that and show me working on my game? like... like a coworking thing? like im in a real studio...?

>>529781723
all noobs are like that. i was too. busy all the time, making stuff. it's when you have no plan or goal and you just blindly work on something. and when someone tells you it doesn't work like that they get angry. but sooner or later they make posts like "sorry guys, gamedev is harder than i though and it takes a massive amount of time, i didn't know that".
not saying that getting shit done is bad, i'm just saying you need a realistic idea first.

>>529781245
I would not want ai to write filler stuff, such as minor npcs, I want it to engage with what I write and give pointers. Seems to work fine.
I am not against people using AI for images or music, but as for me, it feels boring.

TLDR: I want AI to look at my shit and give me opinions, I do not want AI to make my shit.

>>529781956
Because it's the same principles

>>529781993
The amount of project hopping and small pointless things produce around here is what I'm talking about. You're not a dev just because you're active. I could sit in discord modeling stupid shit all day for you.

>> 529712746
My resting wishlist velocity is a lot closer to 5-10 per day. Every time I post on social media I get a decent little spike of 20-50, and successful tweets have netted me a few hundred each, but I haven’t gone very hard on social media yet since content development is still early on and I don’t have too much to show yet but I suspect the resting velocity will get higher once I push harder onto social media

>>529781792
i didnt play it, but graphically it looks amazing. what makes it troon trash?

>>529781183
I do.
I make characters, weapons, levels. Learned all that stuff way before programming.

>>529782598

>>529782537
Meant to reply to >>529712746

man i really would like a gf. i like gamedev, but i don't like when gamedev is some type of "last hope" to make money and be attractive at least in some way. i just want to be happy and then dev out of happiness because i enjoy it. desperation goes nowhere.

>>529782786
man i really would like for you to shut the fuck up.

>>529781183
That's pretty much the main thing I do. I am not a piece of garbage though and learned how to use the tools we make the game with so my programmer isn't forced to do 100% of the integration.

>>529782537
>>529782734
Doubt you'll respond acrolyte dev but how did you build your twitter account to several thousand followers before having a demo or playable game? I think the 0-1000 followers part of twitter is the hardest thing for me to wrap my head around. Making a game is easy, abusing social media feels impossible

I have almost 300 "steam followers" and 0 Xitter followers, apparently no crossover there

>>529781956
It's an extreme form of art, limited by size and technique. You can discard a lot of regular art training but the basics still apply

>>529782786
It's true, gamedev is way better as a casual hobby making what you want to make passionately. My gf made me bomb ass dinner last night beside we watched Buffy and then I game devved for the rest of the night.

WHY can't environment fog start from any "point" rather than only from the camera

>>529782557
the devs are a formerly gay couple (german and asian guys) who trooned out during covid and added all the troon elements, in the game men are pathetic slaves to a galactic lesbian empress and the 2 troon characters are here reincarnation not even making shit up
they started working on the 2d game as men and 8 years later released a 3d game as "lesbian" "women"

>>529783231
>haven't joined

>>529783286
Because environment fog isn't like a physical thing, you know? It's more like an effect, like a shader.

>>529783128
Really you don't discard any training. It's just a medium in the same vein as pastels, watercolors, acrylic, etc. No idea why so many kids here try to ignore basic art principles and training. It's very obvious to usually tell where people peaked attention wise in art learning.

>>529782786
get a gamedev gf from agdg

>>529783372
Meds

>>529782075
Trvth.

>>529783372
no way thats true... is it?

>>529783286
Use volumetric fog for that.

>>529783382
I rather like your Pepe

>>529783436
so why can't a shader say "fog is lowest at Vector3(10.0, 6.0, 2.0) and increases from that"
why is it only from the cameras POV

>>529783531
meds
>>529783637
yes its all true check xer blogs if you want, rose-engine the "studio" main 2 devs trooned out
i know this because i used to follow them long time ago when the game was 2d

>>529783637
Whenever you hear something this mental it's invariably walked back substantially over the course of several time wasting replies

>wife always wanted to write for video games.
>I come along making games solo
>We brainstorm tons of ideas, talk about how great said ideas are, have passionate sex.
>She shows interest in what I'm working on and gives good advice.
>Gives head while I'm gaming or devving.
I just got extremely lucky bros.

>>529783982
yeah, doesn't matter if you ever make it. just enjoy life. that's what life is made for. not for achieving goals, but for enjoying the moment.

>>529783372
>world is fully female
>everything is evil, hurtful, scary
>enter jjba, everything is centered around males, most female characters are shallow
>the search for virtuousness, the value of friendship, good always triumphs at the end
what gives

>>529783770
It can

I'm going on a hunger strike until my game works.

i like how millenials went so fast from "my parents only care about money, i want to find my passion" to "i dont wanna dev if money isnt promised".
should have listened to your parents i guess. or have some balls and truly stop giving a fuck about money and yolo your way through life. make a choice.

>>529783982
I have this except I have 2 wives, one is a 3d modeller and one is a voice actress.

>>529784202
I wish my parents cared more about money. Imagine complaining you have more capital than others. Broken brains.

>>529784202
The fuck are you even talking about. I dev every day for free. I make money plenty fine from my real job.

>>529784079
This right there. They journey was the destination all along.

>>529784138
then write it for me

>>529784384
Most people know this. Zoomers have trouble with this because their brains are fried from tiktok, twitch and youtube.

/agdg/ post about

bideo gayms [ ]
money making [x]

>>529784534
If every single post in this thread was 100% correlated to video game development only it would move at a snails pace and be pointless.

Is C++ the best language for game dev? If you want the most professional thing possible the best option is Unreal which uses C++, and if you want something FOSS and free for an indie game there's Godot. Fuck Unity after the shit they tried pulling.

8 reactions in disc*rd

>>529784534
This place is worse than r9k for mental

Imagine blogposting to strangers on /agdg/ when you could be having sex with your wife

>>529784778
Yes C++ is the best. Even if you don't use it in the end (like gdscript instead) knowing c++ just makes you a good capable programmer and you can get real jobs.

>>529784778
its not that simple, but its pretty much the best in regard to performance.

>>529784778
desu i think C# is a better language.
C++ is nice for writing performance optimized functions, but you can call those from C# anyways.
the whole .net framework is just nicer to work with.

>>529784778
C++ is a good choice but is difficult to learn for a beginner. if you are thinking of using godot then you will make faster progress with gd script. Learning C++ later on will be easier once you have some foundational knowledge

>>529784885
My gf works a 9-5 and is in meetings on camera for most of the day so that's not possible.

>weather gets cooler
>immediately function again
god, i need to stop pretending that nothing affects me... i'm just flesh, not a killer cyborg...
my i need to work on circumstances and not on myself.

>>529785028
Tell her to set her status to "In a meeting" and plap away

>>529785105
I mean, we did just have a heat wave. If I didn't yolo my electric bill during it I'd be pretty lazy too.

>>529785140
She's too goody two shoes unfortunately. I did manage to get in breakfast and a walk in the woods yesterday with her though. Then like I posted earlier in the thread she cooked me a bomb ass meal and we boned before she went to bed.

>>529784778
If I didn't know c#, I would learn c++ and use Unreal most likely. I agree with your take. I find blueprints or custom scripting languages repulsive.

maek easier gams wiht more random stufs

>>529784885
Whenever someone talks about his wife on 4chan it's that lardass fat couple archetype that met on WoW

>>529785407
That's just projection from lonely neets.

Getting this thing to work was a pain in the ass.

>>529785407
OMEGACOPE LMAO

>>529784906
>>529784958
>>529784982
>>529785329
>>529784942

So the consensus is C++ or C# then. Or GDscript if you're a noob using Godot. Got it. Thanks for the opinions.

>>529784885
Bachelor coded post. I spent four hours arguing with my wife yesterday because she is financially destroying our household. There comes a point when you're so sick of someones shit you don't even want to look at them.

My game is 4:3 and has no graphics options. The game looks how I (capitalized for emphasis), the director, envisioned it to.

>>529786131
C++ with LUA scripting is the optimum.

>>529786131
The consensus is c++. Anyone telling you "c++ is hard to learn blah blah" is just retarded. I was learning that shit 20+ years ago with worse resources then we have today. I mentioned gdscript because you mentioned godot.

>>529786375
other langs have faster iteration speed

>>529786239
A game where you are a dumb bitch wife who can't stop spending money, and you have to hide it from your husband

>>529786375
i prefer c#, even though i know c++. for anything that isn't performance critical c# is just nicer to work with.
i truly believe that scripting has a place where it's useful.

>>529786239
To be fair, arguing with a significant other is not standard either. I went through that once in my mid 20s, never again. It's extremely difficult to find women who aren't shitty that lead to that but I never let my standards slip in that regard and finally I have a perfect gf in my 30s after being single for a long time.

The best language is the one appropriate for your situation, dev stack, and goals.

>>529786520
I agree, I just think c# sucks ass, I don't know why but I can't fucking stand it. I love gdscript though.

>>529786519
Wait... this is unironically a ludo idea.
Added to my list

>>529783149
>pasta with bread
la mao

i made a gate that can be opened. The once it is opened it can be closed. the player can pass through the gate when it is open but not when it is closed.

Imagine a survivors like game that had a final level designed for infinite replayability "end game content" like mapping in PoE or raiding in WoW. What form could that take?

>>529772074
Based

>>529786915
That's basically a whole game good job

>>529784778
gdscript

>>529786375
Yeah I had a misconception that C++ was going to be a super hard language coming out of web dev because Rust trannies kept talking about how hard C++ was and how everything absolutely needed to be rewritten in Rust. I did C++ and realized Rust trannies were just retards. Once you got past pointers which I already knew the concept of from Linux, it really wasn't much scarier than Javascript.

>MUH MEMORY SAFETY
Skill issue + safety features in modern C++
https://tomaszs2.medium.com/nobody-expected-c-memory-safety-rust-in-trouble-cefb39166923

>>529786519
Apparently the gameplay loop is extremely addictive.
>>529786526
Yeah my wife has been solid up until the past year when it turns out she has been living a completely artificial life style and is essentially bankrupt and only thought this would be important for me to know when we join our finances.
I don't know if you're hip to zoomie shit but they call it "girl math" where you just rack up massive amounts of unsustainable credit card debt.
I knew something was up when essentially every household expense was falling on me but when you finally get to see how bad things are it's infuriating.
I'm working 60 hours a week now to keep a roof over our head and she thinks that we are equal partners. You have stabbed us in the back, your family was counting on you and you have been lying and 'faking it til you make it' with your own husband.
Absolutely brutal. Channeling this into my games new divorce mechanic I suppose.

>>529786805
>not liking chicken fettuccine alfredo
what are you some sort of faggot or something?

>>529785332
making games for the reviewers is always a mistake

>>529786915
>>529786990
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/-quot-the-door-problem-quot-of-game-design

>>529787084
not only are you a faggot, but I wouldn't feed that to my chickens

>>529787062
>I don't know if you're hip to zoomie shit but they call it "girl math"
Anon this is called financial infidelity

>>529743428 (OP)
Great idea for a vidya just dropped
https://x.com/stone_toss/status/1940772518970765763
>>529787062
Bro. If this is creative writing you're good at it. Absolutely brutal.

>>529785984
>Self-inflating game that creates weapon after weapon to make
>Graphics will be on the receiving end of the PS2 jokes that all of the 2015 Indies got
You gotta shift priorities to releasing this ASAP and getting your life back. If anons wouldn't miss X weapon if it were gone then it should be gone. "Low weapon variety" will never, ever come up in a modern day review.

>>529786683
preference is perfectly fine. i think enjoying what you work with is the most important part.

>>529787062
Sorry to hear that man, that shit fucking sucks. Yeah I went through a similar thing but not as bad. We split finances but she fucking hated it and would be slow to cover sometimes. She literally worked for a place I got her hired for so I knew exactly how much she was working and how much she made and it wasn't adding up. Luckily I got out of that with a clean break and kept my house and everything and kicked her to the curb. I used to fucking have to call to wake her up every morning and she didn't even need to be at work until 10am. Laziest bitch man. One of my main requirements for a new girlfriend outside of intelligence was that she had to be a career oriented woman. Now my current gf makes more than me (although roughly equal after deductions as my company covers things like heathcare and hers doesn't). So there's no issues with money or anything like that and even if there was we're separate enough that I'm not needing money from her to survive as I still have the same cheap mortgage 10 years later and stuff. It was so nice being able to do a vacation (japan) and we planned it out and didn't have to worry or bicker about finances we just went and paid our ways.

what the fuck happened

My hunger strike has ended.

Composer: “I created a theme song for the door.”

>>529787201
>>529786805
>he doesn't like pasta
anon...

>>529743428 (OP)
bois, check /v/, that SKG initiative picked up speed drastically

>>529787693
Typo in title, immediate unsubscribe

>>529787693
al-khwarizmi

>>529781751
>mmmm actually i called you a retard so im not a retard you are the retard and i won
>and someone else that definitely is not me also called you a retard so i'm not a retard you're the retard twice
>and you can't respond to anything in greentext so i win

>>529787305
>>529787320
>Creative writing
I wish. I am writing you from my wage cage right now with about 40 dollars to make it to next week after I ensure our child is fed, clothed, sheltered etc.
Financial infidelity sounds right because it's been one lie after another for ages. When money is owed to me for expenses we split, she insists the bank is having a technological error preventing it from being sent and she will "try later" i.e kicking the can hoping she'll come up with the money. After confronting her one hundred times with the fact that I'm not retarded and this is a transparent lie she yields to admit she needs to get paid before paying me back.
This type of shit was a minor red flag before the rare times it happened but I assumed we were younger and more irresponsible then. But the truth of it really is that back then there were still new credits to take on.
I would have preferred real infidelity so I could have thrown a fit and been released from this bullshit instead of having to "work together" with someone I have completely lost faith in to do their part.
Ironically the same thing happened to my father who is now divorced.
This is relevant to Aggy daggy because there are daily posts about muh gf muh women will fix me and they will absolutely fucking destroy your hope or enjoying a hobby.

>>529779023
Thomas Brush was alone

what am I even paying for eh janny???

>>529787603
Glad to hear to made it out anon.

>>529783005
I have a demo, I got pretty lucky though. One tweet from an indie game showcase account blew up pretty big, 100k views, and then one of my own tweets went viral, 130k views, which is where most of my followers came from

>>529787993
Could work out better to divorce now, no? Otherwise you're just going to help her pay all her debt and then divorce her anyway kek
>>529788152
Why don't these guys all team up and make one giant shit game?

>>529788164
Janny's gonna delete up a storm in a few minutes, might even nuke the thread.

She won't stand for this blogposting bs anymore

>>529788249
Yeah, the worst part was the laziness continued into the separation which cost me another $3k. We literally filled out the dissolution paperwork and got it notarized and instead of turning it in (of course I was dumb and trusted her to that) she left the state. So I had to get a lawyer (and a good one just in case) to subpoena her to show up for the proceedings. Lesson learned, and luckily at a not important part of my life.

>>529788332
Yeah that's where I'm at. It seems like it will be smarter to make the first move or at least get my shit in order to do so now.
Really would like to keep a stable home for our kid though, I'm sure for a lawyer her family will open many more lines of credit and debt to keep the good times going.

>>529787978
nice meltdown. still doesn't erase the fact that you said theory of value isn't contingent to pricing OR markets (you phrased it like it was the same thing). retard.

If we can't have small talk inbetween shop talk this place would be pointless. I know a lot of you nodevs don't get this as you never actually work or complete anything impressive but I can't share work 24/7 as it takes time to, you know, make the damn shit.

i ordereded anime figurines with my steam profits

I just want to replicate the visual effects of the SNES

>>529788685
oh are you done spergjecting and now trying to reengage an argument on the merits of the actual subject?
retard

>>529788912
So learn how to draw.

>>529789085
I know how to draw. I mean the various effects I see in SNES games. Like the pixelation transition and the exact way colors are blended.

>>529788912
It's the SNES, emulating its visual effects probably has several tomes written on it

Are alternatives where there's something similtar to the MC being killed but without being necesarelly a permadeath or getting a game over?

Like how GTA instead of game over simply resets the player state in a nearby hospital.

Now Imagine if the Boss didn't reset his HP after you heal in the hospital after losing to him.

But basically the boss could get into an injured state, and resetting the boss fight after a loss feels more like a continuation with an injured boss over a real fight.

Which could allow noobs to grind the boss, even if they lose multiple times, and could avoid a potential game over.

>>529789540
Before you start asking stupid questions, learn how to spell.

>>529789620
>cris
>learn

i hate video games

Finally modeled a Morarctos so I can behead it and hang its head up on the wall in the Fortress Fygoon drawing room.

>>529789276
It's just math and layering

>>529756537

nepobaby have it easy vros....

>>529789825
Is this a piece of poop? The fuck am I supposed to be looking at?

>>529790059
who cares

just engineered a prompt that MAY be worth millions
fucking love days where i make progress like this

>>529789540
>Are there alternatives?
>(States an alternative he is already aware of)
>Can anyone help me answer this question I already know the answer to?

>>529788809
You earning this much?!

wife subtly implied that she could sell feet pics if my next game schedule for october flops to help us since were running out of savings and wont even go on vacation this summer, fuck i shouldve kept my teaching job...............

>>529790320
I want to talk about it.

>>529790361
my game sold for 1,400 USD in the last 3 months

I've spent 6 months basically enginedevving inside Unity but now I can see the light at the end and start adding real content. This weekend I'm going to try to add a new gun type. Exciting...

>>529790525
Nobody wants to talk to you shitting out the same ideas with the same folder of South American animal reaction images.
You haven't had a fresh post since three mental breakdown cycles ago.
You need a hard reset back to
>I can't make a game so I'm going to make an interactive webpage
Because this season is a complete fucking bore.

>>529790589
Go towards the light

game ideas for this feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO1ZcMRC5lY

>>529790883
Buy an ad

yeah i wont click that

>>529790823
lmao.

Ironically I'm playing a bunch of itch.io porn games so my vocabulary of mechanics is not just AAA stuff.

WHAT THE FUCK CRIS?! MAKE PIC REL A GAME AND BECOME RICH

>>529789947
make they kiss

>>529789947
Gigaton truke

>>529790956
Get into 3D sculpting or something

>>529790502
I would easily whore my wife out on onlyfans.

>>529791025
>>529791320
I mean, I need a bigger diet of games than just games made by teams of 50 people.

my issue comes more from the fact I haven't played a lot of itch.io games.

>>529791505
Demo day is close, play our games. if you find you don't like something, think about why and improve your own design sense while you play it.

Foot Pic Seller Sim could actually do numbers.
>thin premise of being the wife of a lazy husband in financial trouble
>photo mode
>pay some foot fetish artist on twitter $50 to texture the bottoms of the feet
>small town to walk around in and find npcs to sell pics to with cringecomedic dialogue
You could make it in a week and there's a decent chance youtubers would pick it up for the weird factor.

>>529791827
>pick it up for the weird factor.
borderline pornography doesn't tend to do well for youtubers
you have to get really lucky for that, it can happen

best youtuber games is games where they can scream "AAAAAH DID YOU SEE THAT???"
in general if your game makes them scream its gonna do well.
humans love hearing monkey screams.

>>529791386
brother eww
>>529791827
degenerate behavior. make it yourself if you want more games that tickle your fetishes.
>>529774113
here. for you https://youtu.be/BuiMpKTlOpQ

>>529791827
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2327780/HAELE_3D__Feet_Poses_Pro__Drawing_References/
idk people might be pretty shy about reviewing it

>>529792197
yeah, on the other hand i hate reading monkey sounds, so scram

>>529792197
A game where things jump out of other things

>>529792197
explains why league of legends is so big

>>529792339
OOK OOK OOK

horror game where you are a creep and want to make friends but you scare everybody away. you can put skillpoints into looksmaxing, talking skills and having normal hobbies.

>turn store page stream off
>average playtime starts going down
>turn it back on
>it starts going up again
I'm no longer sisyphus, I am now prometheus, and steam users are the eagles.

>>529792405
https://store.steampowered.com/app/115110/Stacking/

>playtesting game
>playtesting game without DMC music in the background

you CAN'T have AI explain technology, or a framework to you
you WILL watch some narcissist faggot with a webcam on youtube poorly articulate the concept in a shitty voice for 45 minutes

>>529792320
>high poly
See the trick would be to have the characters be so low poly that it doesn't gross people out. Like the toes aren't even individually modeled, just textured. And then the "posing" is weird and broken where you can stretch the legs and feet into crazy positions while the upper body just sits completely motionless. There's a vision here.

>>529793267
>Enemy glitches under the map and makes infinite attack noises
>I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
>loading the game breaks everything
>PROVOKING
>combat is the shittiest thing ever
>BLACK CLOUD IN ISOLATION
>"wow my game is pretty cool"

>>529793548
i know reading is hard work, but you should try it. there are books, papers, articles etc.
there's probably a paper for everything nowadays.

Can one of you data analysis anons show me the numbers for Resident Evil likes on Steam?

>>529785332
the number of people who cant even understand a simple ass "flip the pipes to get everything to light up" is fucking insane. too much brainrot. make baby games

The more I look at this damn fish the more it looks like it should be piloting a pod racer.

>>529794246
pipemania is very easy to understand which is why it's the go-to hacking puzzle in pretty much any game, it's also why it sucks

>>529794051
now this is the kind of content I come to agdg for!

>>529794446
the mouth looks like a toilet seat

LEFT THAN 24 HOURS!!!!


ARE THE BUGS SQUASHED?
ARE THE FEATURE IMPLEMENTED?
ARE YOU READY?

>>529795948
>He uses Google's shit AI

>>529795948
google AI

>>529794446
actual AI (autistic indian)

>>529788312
>"Hey how did you achieve this?"
>"oh haha well lol I just like totally got lucky bro, just unreplicatable luck bro dont even try haha it was just like pure luck lol"
Man I am telling you guys, you do not have gate keeping inner circle faggots enough. They will get one crumb of success and proceed to pull the ladder out faster than you can say "Marmoreal sold 50 copies with 10k wishlists"

the reason im not making my game is because i know it will be bad

>>529793267
sounds like you need to make DMC music for your game

>>529796006
>ARE THE BUGS SQUASHED?
They're like hydras, squash one and more come.
>ARE THE FEATURE IMPLEMENTED?
Missing one feature, will be implemented by DD
>ARE YOU READY?
I will be.

>"Just get lucky bro lol"
Why are they like this? What is it about indie dev that makes people act like its a zero sum game where only one person can be successful? It's so retarded. If you have to lie about getting lucky, rather than the reality that you paid for sponsored tweets from big accounts in your vertical, you have lost the plot and are deeply insecure. Respectfully

>>529794051
Shit like this is the only real use for ai

>>529796931
they ignore devs like Landfall and Grizzly Games that deliver hit after hit consistently.

>>529796931
It is good to learn the code words people use "I got lucky and a big indie dev account tweeted about me" always, and I mean always, means they paid for promotion.That's fine, it's normal and a good marketing strategy. I don't know why people lie about shit like that though

>>529794446
>fish apparently has same wings as a dragon
can't even keep your shit 8th grade lore in place

Nostalgia must die so that indies can have a future. Discard all images of your 30 year old favorites and pray that the buyers can do the same.

Man I was just on the phone with my insurance agent for like an hour and no one posted here. Dead thread.

>>529796202
it's more fun than the others

>>529794051
More ramen

pvp games are such a blackpill. humans prefer competition over cooperation...

>>529797690
Kojima proves otherwise with Death Stranding

Fixed the image transparency

>>529797753
did you look at the steam charts? all multiplayer pvp.

only unambitious indie games make it

Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
About 700 games in the week around your release.
AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.
Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)

Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."

Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.

>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025
Hahahahaha

H O B B Y
O
B
B
Y

its actually 25 to 45 a day from what im seeing, with wednesday, saturday and sunday being totally dead usually

>>529797467
What am I even looking at?

tfw 700 years away from a game, just made my first lights

>>529798061
this seems like a... TRVKE!

>>529798086
i know you write like you are talking to me, but i understand psychology and it's just you talking to yourself. you had an episode of desperation again because you desperately want money, and you don't believe in making it. therefore you came up with your hobby cope. you are obsessed with money, that's why you have this copium reaction.

>>529798086
>round 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
actually it's around 30-40. Update your shit.

Just letting you all know that the european citizen initiative "stop destroying videogames", also known as stop killing games, reached the 1,000,000 signatures required and will be discussed by the european commission within the next few months. It could result in a directive/regulation that applies within the whole european union.

What does this mean for game developers?

The idea proposed by the initiative is as follows: If you are selling a game that is multiplayer or otherwise requires a connection to the internet, you will be required to publish sever binaries once you terminate official support, allowing players to host fan servers.

In practice however, it's not clear whether the EU will enact such a law, how it will look in its final form, or how long it will take them (could be several years).

The initiative is still collecting signatures to cover for any invalid ones, so if it sounds reasonable to you and you care about game preservation/consumer rights you can sign it here: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

>>529798195
google ai attempting caricature

Guys. You know I just gotta say it.
I really LOVE this Hobby!

>>529798086
what game did you try and make before you gave up and became resentful?

cute, goon morning agdg

>>529798485
>>529798194
Seasonal variation, it's called an average, ask chatgpt to explain averages to you. It was around 50 per day two years ago. You think for some reason the number has gone down?

>>529763739
Theres no message behind smb so its masturbatory. It’s a good game but bad art

Why do japs write shit like they give you a super tragic story of a girl who struggled to succeed in life, who wants to be a veterinarian to take care of animals because her dog died and she had no money to save it, and she paid for her studies by helping in a restaurant and then they tell you that in one random day she was raped by 7 Africans at the same time and they broke her legs. I mean parce, who enjoys that shit.

>3 decades coding experience
>2 decades making fan levels for various FPS games
>2 decades making music
Great! I'll make an FPS now and--
>completely mentally freeze like an opossum in headlights when opening Blender and trying to make even the most basic low-poly monster model made
wtf is the matter with me? I can absolutely make a game like Dusk given everything ELSE in my skillset, if it weren't for the fact that making art, even super-simple "programmer art", gives me some profoundly irrational stage-fright reaction that I can't get over

>>529798086
I'll do it
You'll see

>>529798791
The average is around 50 per day

https://steamdb.info/stats/releases/

heh.

>>529799112
Your brain is gay and retarded. Ignore your brain and practice until you have something decent and your brain stops being gay.

is it normal to spend an entire month fiddling with the character movement and camera

>>529799156
Are you American? Look at the trend line. It was around 50 in 2024. And the increase from 2022 to 2023 is drastically more flat than 2023 to 2024. So, concentrate carefully, what do you think we can reasonably conclude about 2025?

>>529799336
Probably.

the big question in 2025 to me is not how to make a game, but how to make making games easier.
we are still stuck in a situation where you need massive budgets to make anything cool, that isn't just mobile tier time killers.

>>529787774
this is excellent news
I had given up hope when a month ago it was still at like 400k
suspicious that it jumped past 1m signatures, hopefully those are legit

>>529800469
thats just what happens when a retard stirs the pot

>>529798528
No it doesn’t mean that
It means parliament will discuss what the requirements should be

>>529800469
lol its not legit signatures but doesnt matter nothing will happen, people signed petitions to stop arming israel and the judges this week told them to fuck off and keep sending our taxes to kike freaks

>>529796931
>What is it about indie dev that makes people act like its a zero sum game
Because it IS a zero sum game!
People have limited amount of free time and money, also steam promotes only around 400 games a year despite the number of released games growing

>>529773249
>nigress with broccoli hair
naw

has a "citizen's initiative" ever accomplished anything in the history of man

>>529801296
When it came backed up by guns

Can someone help me?

>animal crossing, but with guns

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1635450/Longvinter/

Okay guys I have to come clean I just said the foot picture game was a good idea because I was horny and wanted to see feet in a game. Don't actually make that.

>>529801296
this is not some random internet petition
it's the official government mechanism of the European Union
the member states are legally obliged to respond

>>529799408
My hobby is extrapolating-kun?

>>529801558
Can't even shitpost on Steam without it calling you "mixed" anymore, racism has really gotten out of control in society

I need motivation

>>529801870
>memetivation

>>529801870
watch "new game!" it gave me motivation

>>529801870
i do it because cute anime girls give me hope

>>529799112
You know it's going to suck because you're new at it.
And also
You think the whole world is going to look at your work and critique it.

So do yourself a favor and get some premade assets and modify them. Get a rigged and animated robot and turn that into the monster. This will suck 1000x less than whatever you're about to make as a noob. And then realize that getting a single person to acknowledge your game exists will be a miracle and the world is in fact not paying attention to or critiquing you.

>>529802493
NTA but that's horrid

>>529801537
help with what, fren?
>>529801564
I knew it. see >>529792223

>>529801870
Go try to play some recently released trash that already made more money than you'll make in the entire year and think about whether or not you can do better

>>529802607
He can also just put years into getting good. His nervous system is screaming at him not to do that though so I'm giving the practical solution.

hey agdg, are you making your game in dalil or brahmin language?

im using godot now

>>529802965
>I can make a better game than this trash!
Almost guaranteed you can't and also those games make money because they did marketing so even if you made a game 10x better it's going to flop because you think that's how you succeed in gamedev.

>>529803061

>>529803440
This is not what that article says