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>>529579548 Calm meditation edition
>What is this?A mass-multiplayer survival game, set in the Dune universe.
A mix of PvE and PvP, focusing heavily on PvP in the endgame.
>Linkshttps://duneawakening.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/
>Crowd-sourced DD maphttps://www.planetologist.app/
https://vps800955.ovh.net/maps_dune_awakening/
https://duneawakening.com/news/dune-awakening-1-1-10-0-patch-notes/#11100h
>Fixed an issue where the ornithopter inventory could get visually empty if a player traveled to Deep Desert, loaded the inventory, left the game, and logged back into Deep Desert.
>Fixed an issue where sometimes players were unable to travel from Arrakeen and Harko Village to the Overland Map.
>Fixed an issue where the playerโs vehicle could disappear if the player got disconnected when traveling between Deep Desert servers.
>fixed visual bug
so duping still works or what?
>>529894113sun was pretty
>>529895224>>529894424That doesnt sound like they fixed the dupe at all
Starting to play with my younger brother in a couple of hours.
Any beginner advice?
>>529898447Pick Mentat or Swordmaster, the whole first zone is a tutorial you'll be asked to delete the base you build there would be my big ones
>>529898568Considering going melee and leaving ranged/mobility to my brother.
Is this a valid strategy?
I heard that melee sucked and was pretty janky when the game launched. Is it in a better state now?
>>529898675both routes are viable, ranged will want mentat+trooper, melee will want BG+Swordmaster
>>529898675I like melee, and it's great against NPCs since your shield stays on while attacking.
>>529898447power in the game works in such a fashion that it is always running at max capacity and using fuel at the same rate, regardless of how much you are using, so don't hesitate to make a dozen blood purifiers or more than one ore refinery if you want things to go faster
>>529898675Woops meant to say *bene or swordmaster.
These two classes are a bitch to unlock. The rest are easy. You can spec and respec into all classes all that matters is how easy the quests are to unlock them.
>>529898735>>529898756>>529898760>>529898872Thanks guys appreciate it.
Would you say the co-op experience is good in this game?
>>529898447make the jump from blood to the dew scythe (big scythe, not the 'reaper' is a hand sickle) for water gathering. Do not ignore your purple vision quest things, they unlock important stuff
>>529898760wait also, you can refill generators from the central fief console, don't manually put fuel cells in generators, you don't have to
when the option to build a buggy turns up, focus on making it immediately complete with an inventory and cutteray, a buggy can mine things 100x better than a handheld ray and carry 20 times as much
but also enjoy it and take your time. the game is fantastic until you are done in hagga basin and after that, you are better off pretending the game is over for now
>>529898961If you like games in this genre then you'll have fun with this one until you get to the endgame, take your time and hope they fix it before you get there
>>529899060What's wrong with the endgame?
>>5298984471. Pick Bene or Swordmaster. You will unlock all classes and can respec for free but both of these are in end game zones and take longer to unlock
2. You abandon the first zone and base
3. You can turn crafting stations on/off, as well as power generators, to save the power cells that get drained
4. sub fiefs require power to prevent storms destroying them, advanced fiefs need power and you have to pay tax, you can live inside a sub fief for a very, very long time before needing to craft an advanced one so dont stress upgrading too soon
5. when building a sub fief, place the device down, then build 2 foundations on top of each other, then destroy the sub fief and put it on top of the 2 foundations, you've now got a lot more height to work with
6. with advanced fiefs you can upgrade how much space you get with stakes, they cost 15k each and add 2.5k in taxes for each, horizontal ones add one giant square in the direction you choose (it takes 30s before it deploys so you can cancel it) and vertical ones add space above and below every single square you already own (and own into the future)
7. The buggy and buggy laser are THE best way to mine and far more important than anything else you can craft or get
8. the handheld sickle is great for water, hold T to see what time of day it is, when you're in the blue zone of the time circle its optimal time to harvest (it'll say poor or optimal when harvesting water), this will carry your water requirements until you get the deathstill from doing the first 8 main story quests (you can rush these at any time, you dont need good gear or weapons to finish them)
The things I wish I knew more of before I started.
Am I crazy or is getting plant fiber in bulk a huge pain in the ass? There's not a tool for harvesting it better that I'm missing, is there?
>>529899216It's basically nonexistant unless you want to subject yourself to roleplaying a sheep for the sealclubbers, griefers and chinese hackers in the deep desert.
>>529899216Progression from the different tiers (copper, iron, steel, ect) is all fun and good, then you hit the last tier and its a huge grind, 3-4x harder than the ones before, and also pointless because there isnt more content to do with that gear.
Still it took me 150 hours before I got to that point, plenty to enjoy.
>>529899418Its a huge pain, avoid using it
>>529898447game is dead, pick another one and move on, sad but funcom chose not to listen to the community
>>529907748>61k on independence dayI mean it's definitely falling as people hit the endgame and learn there is not one.
>>529908167then it would be more accurate to say 'it is dying' rather than 'it is dead'
>>529899418its actually easy; it respawns in under a minute, so pick a convienent patch in the shade and just harvest away. You could use various means to hold down the harvest key and it will do it automatically.
>>529911859And I mostly stopped because we didn't have a /vg/ group and I have no friends. I'm fine with some toxic pvp.
>like 10 billion servers
>only one world has any significant number of players
>they're all condensed into about 4 servers
They should really consider just thanos snapping half the Seitch's in each world desu.
What's the most efficient way to mine plastanium?
Even if you build two temporary bases for both titanium and straw and reassemble a buggy before mining runs, you'll need to haul everything back, being limited by 1000 storage of an assault thopter.
Building a carrier is expensive as fuck and probably not rational for a solo player
>>529916112>What's the most efficient way to mine plastanium?its meant to be inefficient for solos, as T6 is not meant for solos, despite their whining. Its meant for guilds in order to enable and sustain Guild PVP. PVP is meant to be a guild on guild activity.
>>529917018>meant to>meant to>meant toYeah nobody gives a fuck what your "vision" for the game is Joel
>>529916112A carrier can only carry vehicles, and you can't carry vehicles over the overworld map. You could limit how much you have to carry back by refining in DD, but you still have to subject yourself to multiple trips.
>>529919127>and you can't carry vehicles over the overworld map.that's so retarded
being unable to carry passengers or actual cargo on the worldmap is probably my biggest red flag for this game, how the fuck do you just 'forget' something like that as a developer
>>529899418Just run in circles around this formation and pick up all the fibres as you pass them. By the time you've completed one circuit the first ones you picked will have respawned. Spend 10-20 minutes doing that and you'll be set for ages.
Very progressive character, though I would've preferred her also being overweight.
>>529921632>don't darken my doorway again>literally standing out in the open at a busy intersection
>>529921632>Very progressive character, though I would've preferred her also being overweight.>literally just a black harko in harko villagebrain broken
>>529921916Not even black, some flavour of jeet
>>529921632>female talking about giant alien cockGotta admit I was pleasantly surprised.
>>529917116it does not matter what you think, its how its designed. At best, its meant for multiple solos dumping their resources into the same guild container to get enough fast enough. The only efficiency that is common is that since ingots are far easier to transport, you set up a base in the DD for turning ore to ingots, and then before DD wipe every week you transport the ingots and production machines out of the DD. Rinse and repeat on a weekly basis.
>>529916112>two temporary bases for both titanium and straw and reassemble a buggy before mining runsI find it to be easier to just have one base in the E area and do assault thopter runs and use my normal personal mining laser. The rock "islands" over the DD are too small for the buggy to make sense imo.
>>529924023a buggy would only make sense if you made a buggy base on a rock with a node, since you would get more out each rock with a buggy than a personal cutterray, and then processed into ingots at that base. That base would also be targeted for invasion.
>>529923937And the design doesn't work, because no one wants to engage with it.
>>529926481there are plenty of people engaging with it, but not enough for the game to have any legs. It takes some people longer to realize their time is being wasted, they are so conditioned to keep reaching for the items on the top shelf even if its not fun, to stop and think if the items are worth the effort and what they are going to do once they get those items.
>>529885215This is a very common brainlet problem. The brainlets always think in 'shoulds' - you SHOULD play like this, you SHOULD do it this way. I SHOULDN'T have to...
>>529923937Perfect example of the brainlet problem,
buddy it doesn't matter how it's designed if it's not fun. It doesn't matter if you made it so there's only 1 viable way to play, people always have the option of not playing (guess what they're doing)
>They should be like this, it's meant to be like thatcongrats your game is dying, it has no endgame except the PVP and the PVP is just mass griefing and ganking, how did anyone think this was going to be fun to play?
What's sad is that brainlets never course correct, they double down on what isn't working. It'll take some suit looking at game metrics and having a heart attack at 50k peak player drop after only 2 weeks for a 10 year investment game and ordering the morons and dipshits to fix it or get fired.
Have fun with your Elder Scrolls Online friends you incompetent about to be laid off dumbfuck. Here's a should for you: Should have designed a better game.
>>529898675Melee is king so yeah
If you were both ranged you will be in for a harder time
Go 1 and 1 or both melee
So what are some games like this? Should I play RUST?
>>529914152They could connect more sietches to the same DD, that's about all they can do now
>>529921632Her line about, "Oh it was lieutenant so and so that sent you? Then I suggest you rush quickly to someone who gives a shit" was pretty funny
Is he going to die if I allow him to fight Fenrig?
>>529933654>Have fun with your Elder Scrolls Online friends you incompetent about to be laid off dumbfuck.It's kind of chilling how accurate this is... I know a few people that have been laid off playing the game
>>529934371Yeah
Fenring is the top duelist in the universe or some shit and a main character (or antagonist) so yeah, old man samurai is toast if he goes up against him
Tell him to train students instead
>>529934371what do you think?
>>529922053old terra is dead world, you have to be racist with planets and houses now.
>>529934793That they might execute another genshin impact-tier illusion of choice like the one where we attempted to poison some atreides higher-up.
>>529935441How was the Atreides higher-up portrayed? The Harko one you try to assassinate if you're Atreides aligned is cartoonishly evil to a silly degree.
How do I carry more than one corpse at a time
>>529936196Do they ever expire?
>>529936532Nope, I have two chests full of corpses for my deathstills. I call it my murder room.
This is the best vampire simulator ive ever played.
>>529898105They fixed it, just tested it. There may be another method out there but the previous method of going to DD to glitch out your thopter then using that to dupe items has been fixed.
It was good while it lasted, bros...
Are claim spots serverwide or on these sub-server thingies?
>>529940607In DD, serverwide. In Hagga Basin, sietch specific.
>>529933727>Melee is king so yeahExactly how it should be in this game and setting.
Everyone is a melee build, but some melee builds have ranged options.
I eagerly anticipate the balance patches that invalidate melee in a dune game and make ranged the only viable way to play, just as herbert intended.
>>529941217> and make ranged the only viable way to playyou're about 3 very minor number tweaks away from a meta where people can just gravity trap and click you to death with a gun of their choice already, even then you can basically infinitely bully melee players with drillshot guns that force them to dodge or die constantly
call the spice danny cuz they phantoms
>>529943202It's what I expect. The first game I've ever seen with PVP multiplayer melee that isn't absolute ass to play and I'm about 99% certain it's going to be invalidated by ranged builds, just because that's how anything I actually like goes.
Not even the quintessential fact that the lynchpin foundation of the setting is holtzman shields invalidating guns will prevent ranged from dominating melee and balance changes favouring ranged over melee.
are the techlabs in the pve section of DD static or do they change locations every week? Ive only been able to find one of them.
>>529943689i think the biggest mistake was including stupid jedi ninja shit like the bene gesserit teleportation, things like that are effectively 'designing yourself into a corner' when it comes to somehow making it somehow fun to play against (retards teleporting behind you with near-zero commitment or warning is never fun)
one of many systems in this game that in need of a complete facelift if it has any future
The melee is why I haven't quit playing yet
The slow blade mechanic is really fucking good
Improvements are needed but the core idea is fucking legendary
>>529944340BG teleport is a technical solution to what Prana-Bindu body control would likely allow.
PB practitioners could move very quickly
The implication is that you move so fast it appears to be a teleport but no actual teleport is happening
Thats really tough to animate or program well
So you teleport instead
Why is everyone using stillsuits if they suck ass stats-wise? Is the endgame content that easy?
>>529945243they're /fa/ af
>>529945243Native stillsuit is the best looking outfit in the game.
>>529916112probs 1 base on titanium island, 1 just inside e safe zone, do the buggy mine thing, haul with assault, then just mine with hand miner for the stravid mass. much better to get a buddy to make the strav forward base, but even just mining by hand into an assault gets a good amount of both.
>>529945243Everything is stupid easy in hagga basin. Only in the deep desert (not the shield wall PVE labs) do you encounter any enemies that are actually dangerous, and they are dangerous not because of any game mechanics, but because they are bullet sponges that require 10+ hits to kill even with the best gear in the game, and drop you in a few hits if you ever fuck up.
Stillsuits are also the best gear if you're doing anything that isn't PVP - and you are doing anything but PVP 99% of the time you're playing.
And the vast majority of the armor in the game looks stupid, meanwhile you basically can't go wrong with a rubber suit perfectly matching the countours of an athletic and fit body.
>>529945243One reason I didn't think about was convenience when building large bases, guy who was building a large one on the shield wall mentioned it to me
Not the best of reasons but I can see it
>>529945835Yeah stillsuits generally look better but i've rocked that Sarduakar outfit you get with the deluxe/ultimate edition all game. That skin is nice, in the films their armour looks kinda crappy but here it really gets across the empires most elite warriors feeling.
>Grav Nade
>Turret
>Shigawire claw
Yep. Time to rape melee bitches.
>haga basin spends its time teaching you how to dismantle crashed trucks and thopters
>mining laser can step-by-step an entire vehicle in ~10 seconds if you get good at it
>>>you cannot dismantle enemy vehicles in the DD using the above methods at all
>mining lasers don't even have combat capability and don't even have damage coded into their effect
mad. pissed, even.
>>529947721the entirety of hagga basin is teaching you skills and mechanics that don't apply whatsoever to the end game.
Even the PVE mechanics teach you wrong, stuff like parry then slow attack for a kill - well ACTUALLY nobody parries, and the stun from a parry isn't long enough for a slow attack to work anyway, so instead of parrying it's all about draining stamina with guns and abilities and then finishing them off with a slowblade when they can't move anymore. Parrying effectively never comes into it, and slow blades are inherently useless without draining stamina first.
Neither of which are things you're taught in hagga basin. The game trains you wrong.
Stillsuits are generally cheaper and and easier to make also due to less parts and if your going melee armour value is useless to you as your shield is suppose to tank everything unless your getting your ass completely kicked.
That means the only useful stat is the dash reduction value from light but if your exploring extra water and reduced sun expposure is just better. Sure you can take a litrejon to deal with water issues but that takes storage and water is at a premium (with enough resources you can also drain however much water you have stored).
>>529948216TBF Parrying is actually good the netcode is just too inconsistent to rely on it. The only endgame longsword that isn't a rapier gives you stamina on parry which will literally save your life and win you fights in many encounters if you know how to properly use it.
>>529948263You do still want armor for melee builds for when someone stabs you through the shield.
The main benefit of light vs stillsuit is the stamina (2-3 more dashes) and the armor+stab mitigation, which probably doubles the amount of slow attacks you can take.
I think stillsuits should have the dash/stamina bonus personally, like:
Stillsuit - dash/stamina/speed king
Light Armor - good dash/stamina but forgiving if someone gets through the shield with a slowblade attack
Heavy armor - tank damage while shields are down and don't care too much about dashing or stamina
>t6 sword in landstraad reward
>atreides niggers insta complete with 300 spice
green faggots.
>>529948805Don't think it's strictly the netcode, a lot of situations where you could try and use a parry, it gets immediately invalidated by them abilities like shigawire causing you to stumble and be open to their attack instead.
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>have all these great grand plans for the epic cool base i'm going to make when i unlock the atreides tileset
>finally unlock it
>spend 4 hours making a box with some pointy bits
I hate it i hate it i hate it why can't I build something nice that also has space. i think I need to start over but it's kind of a pain in the ass with "diegetic" building (your suspensor belt is about to break!!)
>>529950062prototype and refine my brother
>>529949463True but outside of PvP situations you really should not be getting stabbed, most shields are just way to good. Even in DD where they can potentially shred your shields, played properly they shouldn't actually be harming you which is where the stillsuit advantage really comes into play as you can go on longer expeditions without worrying about water especially as you'll want to be be at max hydration at all times for the swordmaster extra stamina.
>>529950062why are you building so small? also you're always going to be forced into building shitty square boxes unless you start learning how to use triangles - 'rounded' corners are still inherently squarecoded in this game unless you have triangular foundations dashed into your geometrical fuckery
BTW Duncan Idaho is lore accurate in this game for the guy sperging that he should be white.
>"The face remained somewhat round, but darker and with slightly flattened features. High cheekbones formed shelves for eyes with definite epicanthic folds. The hair was black and unruly."
>"She looked at his tallness, at the dark skin that made her think of olive groves and golden sun on blue waters."
>>529950313It's hard
>>529950616IDK it didn't feel small as I put it together or when I'm stood inside but looking at it from the outside I don't even think I'll have enough space for all the big machines. Ughhh this is hard
It wouldn't be as difficult to get motivated and experiment if i wasn't on a timer and constantly needing to fuck around making more plastone
ig I will just scrap and start over, i've thought about moving to the left and building it between 2 cliff faces which might be more visually interesting but could be restrictive size wise
maybe i'm just a not creative NPC type person though, i struggle to visualise it until i start building then it looks like butt
>>529949721True but thats always a battle of attrition, they have 3 abilities and a limited amount of dashes if pressured. Once they use them they will have to use their regular sword attacks to kill you which is what your aiming to parry as even if they've exhausted all your dashes one good parry will allow you to escape as you have the stun and the extra dash afforded by it.
>>529951265start by planning the foundation first before anything else - keep elevations in mind and plan for an exorbitantly oversized garage to house all your huge refineries and ten foot tall tacoma trucks
actually you might want to start with building the hangar first, since that shit eats up a retarded amount of space - something like 80% of the floorspace for picrel ended up being hangar and garage with conveniences laid along the way
>>529952476where do you get those worm statues?
>>529952476Thanks anon I really appreciate the help
>>529952476>, since that shit eats up a retarded amount of space - something like 80% of the floorspace for picrel ended up being hangar and garage with conveniences laid along the wayThis was their design attitude in Conan too. You weren't even meant to have an enclosed base.
>>529921164Took me a while to get around to this but this spot is amazing thank you brother
>>529957076I got the same tip from this thread, I just made the pic. Just passing it on.
Why is it so hard to see ornithopter crosshair
>>529958454idk man my eyes work and even if it's a uniquely difficult moment (maybe you're trying to fly into the sun or something) you can just look at your speed/altitude delta and the attitude of the thopter body
Is there a big difference between the factions?
>>529964815Only aesthetically. They play exactly the same.
>>529959178pretty sure she has a massive (120cm) cock
>>529964815yeah, atreides pretty much dominate every server, harkonnen is full of edgelords that that want to make everything look like ASUS ROG TUF gamer gear and the difference isn't even close
>>529965174>>529966779So no differences rewards wise?
I assumed Harkonnen might get good melee stuff.
Do you need to be on the same faction to play together?
>>529952476>found an abandoned base>looted clean through>wall mural and sculpture were still there>plopped down fief console>could move the sculptures>tried running back to my base with the mural in my build tool >disappeared halfway back home for no reason>go back to the mural>can't move it anymoregg no re
>>529967429There's no player power behind the factions. The only exception is the Landsraad where the winning faction can sometimes vote for special access to a vendor that sells unique schematics, but you can find those in the DD or on the market anyway.
>>529968587They really did half bake it a bit. But apparently npcs from houses attack each other?
>>529950965>epicanthic folds>dark skinSo he SEAnig or Polynesian or something? I mean, Jason Momoa is at least partway there by virtue of Austronesian connection
Anyway, by Frank Herbert canon the sight of his ass cheeks flexing while climbing can make women cum from 100 meters away
>>529971814>But apparently npcs from houses attack each other?They do, but it's semi scripted in the sense that when a player gets close to a specific base that triggers a spawn of X enemy type who will attack the NPCs hanging out at the base. So in the shield wall you'll have Atreides and Harkonnen troops attacking the bases, and in other areas you'll have the different type of scavengers attacking each other too.
It's kinda strange we can't attack those flying ships when we get thopters.
>>529971829I would think the whole "olive skin" bit makes it very clear he looks east Mediterranean, which would also be in keeping with the broader inspiration for Dune.
>>529945243you can spend a long time not fighting at all
it lets you ignore hydration for a bit
>>529977216he's not wrong about the retarded draw distance
>>529977928yeah even in hagga. why can't they just have a low af res thing show until it gets closer
>>529977216"pvp" niggers are one loss away from being this guy too
if someone was killed on foot, the complaints would be halved at least, cause you can at least attack them
>>529977216He isn't wrong, the idea that PvP is optional because "you can run away" doesn't work when the draw distance means you can never see someone before they start attacking.
>>529978441Yeah I don't see why they don't hardcode thopters or vehicles to have a engine max render distance LOD, even just a 2D sprite or something. Should be pretty simple and easy to implement. Would make DD scouting more interesting than just a crapshoot
>>529979140That part falls flat when he claims 10-20 seconds elapsed since he last checked. Head on a swivel doesn't mean take 20 second breaks to stare at your inventory. Probably looked down right as he was coming in, shat himself in rage, leading this experienced PvPer who knew what he was getting into to create a 15 paragraph manifesto on why he shouldn't have died.
What can I do now that I'm atreides rank 5
>>529977216>reddit help me>i got pvped
>>529982309Buy equipment and vehicle skins/colours and furniture
>>529981512breddy gudd :DDD
>get to final cutscene, zatara still calling me off-worlder
glad he got shanked desu would've done it without compulsion
>>529977216He's right about the retarded short draw distance.
is this just reskinned conan exiles?
>>529983657No because this game has no female body types or nudity. So if you're gay and a prude it's close, otherwise no.
>>529981414>leading this experienced PvPer who knew what he was getting into to create a 15 paragraph manifesto on why he shouldn't have died.But that isn't what he was saying at all. The draw distance is an issue, and you nitpicking the timeframe of his example to discredit the whole post is kinda unnecessary.
I've never left Hagga and never going to
>>529950062it looks like the start of a cool base, the garage ground floor. Build into the cliffside beside you and plan vertically
Is there anything worthwhile to farm and sell in hagga basin
>>529986380there's many worthwhile things to farm in hagga and sell on the exchange if your server isn't dead. anything annoying to get like industrial pumps, important schematics, worm cult items etc
if server is dead best things to sell to vendors is I think industrial lube and radiation suits if you'd rather farm resources to craft and sell items to npc's
>>529983964how's the combat compared to Conan
>>529985402you should at least visit haarko and arakeen. they have quests there to do
Will I get free stuff if I join a guild
>>529965626Good, she should
>>529989341much longer ttk than conan, and there's a soft auto-lock that bugs out sometimes and makes you feel like you're playing QWOP but no giga lock-on dagger spam like conan or armor piercing red dragon bow people sniping you from 100 meters. even the sniper rifle has less range than the conan bows.
>>529991052is conan good to get into as a solo
>>529992448it's a traditional survivalcraft game where you can play solo, set your own settings, install mods to your hearts content, all pve
>>529992448>>529992941and if you mean pvp, plenty people roll fresh chars, speedrun levels and setup catapults and solo raid bases from a catapult tower while you're offline. there is pvp scheduled servers, but more often than not you'll just find your shit broken into when you're offline.
is melee viable in the DD PvE solo
>>529994509sword is the pve weapon of choice easily
>>529994509Solo the sword is best since you have to engage multiple enemies at the same time with no one to peel aggro off of you. Kindjal and Dirk are dueling weapons, and the Rapier kinda sits between them and the Sword. Using Retaliate with a sword will burn down entire groups of enemies and its utility for later-game quests can not be overstated, especially the one where you go to the crashed ship and Old Carthag.
>>529994509Enjoy running around in circles as you slowly whittle down all the mobs in each wave.
Any tricks to raise/lower a tile slightly when building while keeping it cohesive with the rest of a build? I remember in Conan Exiles there used to be some tricks with ladders and pillars or something.
>>529994509Ranged+Melee > Melee > Ranged
So if the spice sand is black it means it's all gone?
>>529994509drillshot for swarms of shielded heavies/fighters and sword for everything else works for me
bene gesserit and swordmaster skill trees synergize well. i wouldnt even bother with trooper stuff other than movement abilities, ranged dmg still feels strong without buffs
>>529950965>>529971829>>529976824>Duncan Idaho figures prominently as a warrior in the first Dune book, often in the defense of young Paul and his family. He's described as having "dark skin", a "round face" and curly hair "like the fur of a black goat".>UHM ACKSHUALLY EVERYONE IN DUNE I PALE WHITE WITH LIGHT EYES AND EVROPEAN FEATURES ALSO THE FREMEN WERE WHITE TOOtotal haven't-read-the-books faggot death
>>529999482>if the spice sand is blackthat means your gpu is dying, lil tranime bro
>>530001257>anon has never seen a Mediterranean caucasianlove how every smug liberal retard reads 'dark/swarthy skin' in novels of olde where blacks are the absolute last thing on the author's mind and instantly inserts the darkest motherfucker they can into it
>>530001876he's pretty clearly one of those dark mediterranean types, but that doesn't mean he's white. he's swarthy as fuck. not even liberal, I'm a white nationalist
>>530001876>blacks are the absolute last thing on the author's mindArabs are at the front of Herbert's mind. No where did I say Duncan was some sort of black. You're the only one that brought it up LOL
>>530002369sry i'm just still a little heated over the recent timeline where people were unironically advocating for african aragorn due to a single line of swarthy mentions
i hate books and the people who read them
>>529996308you can use halfwalls for it I guess
>>530002616It's okay man, and I only listen to audiobooks and haven't "read" a book in over a decade. That way I can enjoy it while cleaning or in bed all comfy with the lights off and getting immersed in the world
>medditeranian
>epicanthic fold
lmao didn'treads are pathetic babies with stunted phrenologic understanding
I'll admit that Leto is Spanish though, the whole Atriedes line is of Castillan/Gallician extraction, that's pretty clear in the material
>27k years into the future
>HE DUN BETTER NOT BE NO N WORD YA HEAR NOT GO ON GIT BOY
>>530005848this but unironically
you nigger lovers can genuinely go fuck yourselves
If Conan were here the Defari wouldn't be half as uppity as they are now...
They need to add more titanium nodes
Harkonnens are the wytest wypipo and they're also the evillest in the dune universe
therefore there's a clear correlation between wyteness and catoon villian retard evil
QED
wypipo lmao
Yeah 28 Imperial Sardaukar pulling up in black T7 assault ornithopters
'Thopters landed
Anon's base is under siege under lock down
Imperial Sardaukar are gonna fuck fresh fremen butts
Looking for Feyd-Rautha
Gonna fuck Feyd-Rautha's e-boy butt
Yeah wild buff
Cool Imperial Sardaukar gonna fuck fremen butts
Deep desert isn't very fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz6S-UqDq4
>First tip
>rebind whatever slot you put your construction tool on to "B" because he uses "B" to build in other survival games.
>never take off your construction tool
The devs actually listen to this idiot?
seems like repair exploit got fixed as well
>>530013794jej
You know i see a good bit of whining about people having to equip individual tools for individual tasks like building and schlorping but I feel like the diegetic approach adds a lot to immersion
>>530007958I can tell you're larping because only whites have read Euclid.
>be islamaphobic
>play dune awakening and watch dunc 1 and 2
>start to think islam is actually cool and based
uh oh...
bi la kaifa!
>>530014787Just remember that the islamic culture Herbert fellated doesn't exist anymore.
u guys need some mentat training, some discipline, you can still be a dumb little gangbanger wannabe fighting over colors of clothes and skin, but it has to be with houses now okay? you can roleplay racist little chuds in universe, assuming you play the game at all.
>>530014787It's based on some small subsets of culture that happen to have become islamic.
None of the cool bits stem from it.
>>530014224Pls don't be true
I don't mind the dupes being fixed, but I need my full repairs
I love this schlorper! It's so useful being able to schlorp and full up my jons.
>>530016332Uhh pic related
>>530015957it was fixed, tried repairing my mk5 torch earlier. which means i gotta respec since i dropped all the durability savers for damage.
>>530015273>fellatedDid you even read the fucking books
love catching people logging into the loot rooms, so much loot
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dupebros...not like this.
I assume if I delete my subfief to move the locationslightly I won't get refunded any of the 50k solaris I spent on stakes?
>>530017965Assuming this isn't fake, I doubt they will want to ban anyone. This has had 0 impact on anything but removing paying players does.
>>530018082I fucking hate this system that punishes minor mistakes, it's not my fucking fault that all the good aesthetic build spots are taken up by some retards 4x4 CHOAM shelter shitsty
FUCK
>>530017965Yeah and this is their discord advertisement, I think its safe to say they're lying
>>530018556>This has had 0 impact on anythingnigger were you asleep when they fought tooth and nail to force this game to be online only and pvp only JUST to make sure players would participate in their in-game economy? there's no cash shop. you're the product and you fucked with their money. you're right that they probably won't VAC ban you or anything but you're definitely getting sent on a short vacation at a minimum.
>>530019129>Brings up vac in a non-vac game
>>530018938>noooo wtf this concept art isn't exactly how the game plays in actuality!!welcome to gaming
>>530019168good thing i said you weren't at risk of being VAC banned then, you pedantic little faggot.
>>530019171>Look at Nightreign advertisement>Its 1:1>look at helldivers advertisement>Its 1:1>Look at MH advertisement>Its 1:1>Look at Dune>Its a straight up lie Yes, scummy devs are scummy its true
>>530019278hope they find a cure for your autism
also you can do everything shown in that dune pic btw just not for very long before the worm turns up
>>530019417>also you can do everything shown in that dune pic btw>Tanks>Tanks with flamethrowersYou're such a dumb nigger its hilarious how far that corp boot is up your ass lmao
>>530019417oh fuck off lol. i'm not even that anon but
>okay so the promo ad is fake, but you're autistic - hah! got 'em!what a fucking a fag you are lol. i'm going to doompost 10 times just to upset whatever weird denial complex you have going on.
i am back to palworld and it is actually good now
thankyou dune for failing to deliver on this premise that 20 other games did
>>530019628It's fucking promo art you aspergers victims
I didn't even notice the flamethrower tank because I don't care that much however there's several things shown in this image
>people running, doing on foot combatcheck
>people using spice harvesterscheck
>people flying ornithopterscheck
>people flying carryallscheck
>spice bloom mushroom cloudcheck
>crashed shuttlecheck
>flamethrowercheck just not mounted to a vehicle
>tanksno, that's not in game!!!!!!!! they're hecking misadvertising to me hecking save me advertising standards authority!
>>530020178I bet you don't notice most things. Now shush shitposter.
>"Patched" the vehicle inventory bug
>It actually isn't patched
>Its now more common
>Everyone is now just losing stuff left right and center and complaining about it everywhere and being told to avoid vehicles and inventories entirely
Drop the solo/coop servers already
>>530020740Was that really the best you could come up with? Rhetorical by the way I know you lack the intelligence to do anything but follow whatever authority figure is above you which is why you slurp Funcom cock. Now post again sheep.
>>530020821?
I don't know bud I can't understand the level of disingenuous you need to be on to genuinely think that one vehicle from the promo art not being playable is an issue worth dedicating any energy to caring about lol
>>530021114>Gets called out >BacktracksThanks for conceding.
>>530021181>ahah! you admit that one of 8 things in that image isn't in the game that means its fake and trash and im justified in really being buttmad and pained over a nothingburger! checkmate chud!well done anon, you "won". hopefully this brings you some fulfillment
You should both kill yourselves, to be quite desu with you familia.
>>530021569na familia? dune reference?!
>>530020778?
I was having the inventory ghost problem and it fixed it for me. Looking through the discord, there aren't any recent reports of the inventory issue. The last two days where it was an issue, there was a big 600+ post thread and new threads being made about every five minutes. So doesn't seem like it is an issue atm.
Can we recustomize characters yet?
>>530023243i think that was mentioned at some point as coming in the future but that was before they realized their endgame issues and switched all hands to putting that fire out.
>>530023243No :(
Apparently they're gonna add it but I've not seen any proof of that
>>530023335>>530023350Thanks, guess I'm gonna keep my helmet on.
>>530020178You can't just call them out like this bro, now everyone will know that they don't consider anything but the 5% of the game that they engage with the true actual gameplay and everything else is irrelevant at best
>>530024410no one else here has autism, speak friend, what do your autistic eyes see in that post?
New potential dupe. No idea what's going on and I'm too smoothbrained to understand. Maybe double clicking the stack and pressing E at the same time to quick deposit delivers it twice? No idea. Would be funny if another dupe was found so quickly after the 2nd dupe hotfix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1LV-pgBNg
>>530020178You don't often fight in the deep desert unless you are flying in dune. Certainly not on a buggy.
>>530013794>never take off your construction toolYeah, he appeals to pve players. It's his audience.
Another day... another solari...
>>530017965If they ban me for it good, if they remove my duped shit, good, i'll quit.
I've lost too much shit to bugs and hacker bullshit to care about this game.
The only reason I'm still around is because the dupes let me recoup my shit.
>>530027070Looks like he's lagswitching.
wreck of haphaesteus is the worst mission ive ever played in any video game. holy shit
Buggy cutteray 3 is supposed to be able to mine aluminium right? Think I ran into a bug since it says so on the tooltip but failed when I tried.
>>530027980Even in pve, I'm not going to waste a slot on something utterly useless outside of my base.
>>530029614no
rule of thumb, buggy cutteray can only mine up to the level of thing it was made of
cutteray 3 is steel
you need to use hand cutter to bridge the gap between buggy rays
>trying to find new location for my base
>anywhere remotely useful already has property on it
>>530029771Thanks bro, was hoping I could skip the upgrade and go straight to Orni but guess that's next.
>>530030289you can skip the upgrade by either farming loose aluminum (on the ground by nodes or from drops/chests in the aluminum region and building it from that or by farming elite chests which drop mk4 buggy parts in the aluminium area (which is how I got mine)
>>530034753Or just hand mine the Aluminium with a T3 cutter ray?
>>530030289you can go straight from start to orni as your first vehicle. There was a guy that made a new char and left the starting area as soon as he could craft respawn beacons. He used the beacons to cross from the starting area to the O'Odham on foot. He then farmed research stations there. Within four hous of start he had farmed full t4 weapons and armor, and was able to build a scout from a combo of parts that dropped from chests and buying the remaining with solari from traders.
>>530035021that, but if he did not want to do it that way, he could. You can progress through drops instead of mining, its just slower.
The words of Joel carry deceit. Ibn qirtaiba.
whats the point of farming for hundreds of hours for a pretty base when theres nothing else to do? why didnt they have a mechanic where your base can be attacked by NPCs and you can defend it with your own NPCs like in Conan?
why did they make another Conan for 7 years but with none of the Conan mechanics and content?
what a waste of time for the devs and players
>>530039232i really enjoyed dune but im about done with it. Going to buy conan now.. which dlcs should I get? does conan have a main story like dune awakening? thanks
>>530037730i understand, wali
>>530039232In theory, you supposed to find guild and participate in group PvP in DD.
>join game last night to get some stuff cooking and run a couple quests
>someone is hovering a thopter looking at the base my friends and I made
>go out and say hi
>they are my neighbors, also Harko, in a somewhat bigger guild
>turns out our base is known in the Sietch because it looks badass and the back section looks like a giant sword
>give them a base tour
>they let me tour their base which is also cool and we share base building tips
>hop in discord with their guild
>roll 8 people deep into a DD spice field and get a shitton of spice, get in a little rocket scuffle with some Atreides who were butthurt about us telling them to fuck off
>they teach me a lot of tips and tricks about PvP in the process, like always keeping a scout thopter pocketed so you can bug out if youโre shot down, what to color our thopter so fellow Harkonnens wont attack us, etc
>look forward to playing with this group again and introducing my friends to them
Man I havenโt had a good multiplayer PvP experience like that in years. Iโm now convinced people who bitch about DD PvP just donโt know how to interact with other people and make friends. Itโs a whole different game when you have homies to get spice with.
>picrel is our base
>>530042325Every time, fuck
How to fuck do you find a fitting server?
I'm checking populations there: https://dune.gaming.tools/server-status
And then going though what language the population speaks there: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQNdaf8MDKx0IMCZlrdqHuO0bIhMRDcj1pFs8pBw778iirFw1QRgcX-a3LOyW3LwhBq5l50enjm6nCk/pub
No clue if any of that is actually accurate though.
>let my younger brother pick the server a couple of days ago
>"there's a big Amsterdam server"
>check it in the list today and find out it's full of cyka blyat
lmao dead
zerg spergs will insist this was somehow the fault of people that wanted to mine plastanium
You don't even have the excuse of playing on console or some retarded shit. You're actually taking a picture of your monitor and phoneposting.
>>530014689wow anon you really are an ace detective, im sure someone would unironically be spamming "wypipo lmao" here sans for like 2 particular genuinely schizophrenic people on the site
>>530044707Iโm not home right now, sowee your baby eyes canโt handle some slight blurriness
>>530042325DD on my server is over run by chinks who's assault thopters can somehow cross the DD in a matter of seconds and the only interaction they provide is swarming you, shooting you down and thumping your corpse for good measure. Some people are just exclusively negative to interact with.
>>530045259What the fuck does not being home have to do with taking a picture of your monitor?
>>530045353Damn Iโm sorry your server sucks. My server has grief squads as well but only one hacker that everyone knows about. Are you on a high population server? Ours is pretty low
>>530045591I snapped that pic earlier to show a friend, Iโm not home right now so it was the only picture I had of the base for posting
>>530042940Anyone?
Absolutely clueless which server to pick.
Or just pick one with a good population and ping?
>>530044707>>530043045this is what normiecattle thought process looks like
this is the person dune is made to appeal to
the thoughtless phoneposting photo-of-monitor-posting wageslave gamer that's too preoccupied by his societal slave status to have any critical thoughts of the game and the lack of its contents
we're not the main demographic anymore bros........ it's over....
>>530045776>I snapped that pic earlier to show a friendYou can't send it to them on your desktop? Are you tech illiterate?
>>530045818Low population IMO is the best. Thereโs still plenty of people without the bullshit that comes with having a packed server (people walling off resources, ugly cube bases everywhere you look, etc)
>>530046264Why does this bother you so much, zoomer?
>>530046417>shit all over the floor>shit your pants>pee someone else's bed>live like a fucking animal"Why does this bother you so much, zoomer?"
based behavior, honestly
>>530046417>zoomerI'm 32, laughing at retards that take pictures of their screens has been a thing since smartphones existed
>>530041768During my entire leveling process, any time I would come across another player I would say hello over voice or text and they would just keep on like I didn't exist. One time a guy actually responded over voice, but he just asked if I knew where a quest item was. I might as well be playing with bots.
And this isn't just a Dune problem. Every game is like this now.
>>530046417>zoomerZoomers are the tech-illiterate ones.
Every PC boomer knows how to use printscreen.
>>530042325>Man I havenโt had a good multiplayer PvP experience like that in years. Iโm now convinced people who bitch about DD PvP just donโt know how to interact with other people and make friendsMore like you're one of the lucky people who doesn't have a completely garbage server community infested with just hackers, griefers or both.
Thank you to the Anon who gave me building tips yesterday, I managed to make something I'm not disgusted by using some triangles.
It's still a bit too small and a little boxy but I've left room for expansion as don't see myself hitting T6 anytime soon and want to avoid a huge tax bill if I can.
In the meantime I'm moving my operations here and will start shuttering my old base, which I'll miss.
>>530047093But anon, why would you use ingame chat when you can use discord instead?
>>530048460looks great, anon
>>530042325you sound like a massive retarded faggot without a prtsc key
>>530040034sounds like a dev desperate to get more money out of people
>>530047093It's amazing to look back in hindsight that world of warcraft came out at this perfect moment where people were willing to actually engage in an mmo and chat wasn't super censored yet.
Now we get this crazy scenario in dune where 30 pve players will be hunted down individually by one or two gankers.
>>530047093>any time I would come across another player I would say hello over voice or text and they would just keep on like I didn't exist.because they have no way of knowing you aren't some faggot streamer trying to get a free content interview/harrassment window out of them, or some sort of psychopath trying to befriend and take advantage of them in some way
welcome to low trust society where the only winning move in human contact is to simply not engage in it
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Finally had enough of Funcom's bullshit and duped my way to T6.
Now to wait until they either ban me or release more content.
damn, they fixed the repair bug
>>530049801Thank you. I'll continue to work on it over time but for now I'm doing interior decoration.
I wish the game had some enemy creatures we could fight instead of just people.
When Stilgar said to Paul in Dunc that there was giant trapdoor spiders, was that real? Or just him BSing Paul?
I love fighting giant spiders.
>>530051754Considering hackers can now claim ownership of your base with an exploit I think you're in the clear.
User generated dungeons. Think about it.
I have some duped mats and I really want to get all t6 achievements out of the way. I don't think I have enough to build everything in the Basin, but hauling the resources to the desert also doesn't seem feasible. Any suggestions on how to get that shit out of the way?
>>530019129Remember to thank the one man who might be able to save this awful game.
>>530030289Yeah people are overvaluing the buggy. You can just build an aluminum mining outpost on the ridge with a sub fief that has nothing except water and an ore refinery, and get the biggest bike inventory you can afford, then do quick hauls. Water will be your bottleneck before aluminum does, and later on a good cutteray with thopter is enough.
t. I have a buggy and I rarely ever use it these days. I also skipped the buggy at first for thopter rush and never regretted it.
>>530056527Giant as in actual big spiders, not fantasy Shelob sized anon
Is it possible to farm titanium solo?
where do you actually find a fucking guild in this?
the discord is no good, the server i picked was called fucking arrakis
>>530062852it was ironically before the pve zone change
>>530062852yes? just go in the dd and click rocks that are shiny
do that 9000 times and you will have the funny epic tier 6 item that you have no explicit reason to have created in the first place
poggers
>>530063762I can't find the rocks though
>>530063870go beyond row E-onward
the 'pve zone' of the deep desert is just joel shitting in your mouth out of spite, don't bother trying to prospect it
>>530063870They're usually in and around the F row, same with the other ore you need. Just make a base in the middle of the map in the E row where it's pve and then fly east and west in the F row.
Just logged in and all the wall on my base were missing
>>530064154How many days do I have to build a base before it wipes?
>>530064440resets tuesdays so from now like idk 2-3
>just breached 79% mostly positive
let's goooooooooooooooooo
Well, i had my fun and dont see any reason to play further.
>>530065580idk how but i'll assume normies are either midway or finished with the plot stuff and left, and a lot of the endgame complaints will never apply to them
>>530056527Dune doesn't have any alien life except the sandworms (maybe)
Everything you see are animals from earth but evolved for arrakis' environment. Arrakis potentially had alien life before the sandworms turned the planet into a desert (if you go by brian's novels) otherwise I think it's safe to assume arrakis always had sandworms based on frank's novels.
Dune is set 20k-25k years in the future from now, with mass colonization of the universe beginning ~2k-5k years from now. The butlerian jihad occurs about 10k-15k years from now and basically shuts down interstellar travel for a few centuries until people discover spice enables prescience enables space travel again. (not completely shut down travel, it just got a lot more dangerous without spice or thinking machines)
The definitive stuff from Frank's novels only:
20-25k years in the future, Paul is born
10-15k years in the future, the butlerian jihad happens
Sometimes before the butlerian jihad mass interstellar colonization occurs. It's plausible but not explicitly stated that thinking machines can fold space (in herbert's later novels in the series, technology enables folding space without spice)
People (not thinking machines) being able to fold space without using spice is a brian herbert thing. Arrakis being a lush planet before sandworms is also a brian herbert thing.
The lean into zensunni wanderers = arabs is also not entirely correct. The religious foundations are sunni islam and zen buddhism, so you can safely assume some kind of ethnogensis of south east asians with arabs. Think Saudi Arabia/Egypt + Thailand/Cambodia/Burma. However, it's a syncretic religion (and persecuted) and not fundamentally ONLY these ethnic stocks, but they should be the primary founding influence. By the time this game happens, they have had some 9k-10k year of evolutionary adaptation to arrakis (nevermind e.g. salusa secundus)
>>530068814>Dune doesn't have any alien life except the sandworms (maybe)"Laza tigers" are a thing but i forget when/where/how they pop up, some sort of ecology project gone wrong
>>530065580>>530068562Once normies start hitting the PVP zone and endgame en mass the steam score is going to drop like a rock. I think that'll start in earnest in about 2-3 more weeks as normies mostly play weekends only and are still fucking around in hagga. I'm predicting ~65%-70% in the long run for the steam score. Better if they patch and update the problems away, worse if they patch and update more problems in. (So far they are patching more problems into the game, not fewer)
This is what being a retarded fat brown eyed oaf of a design lead who thinks old school MMO design is good, actually gets you.
Most people don't want to play cutthroat Eve Online/Rust/whatever brazilian/chink/russian infested garbage where everything revolves around lowest common denominator griefing and ganking alongside mass cheating, botting, and hacking. Nobody has ever found griefing and ganking fun. Eve Online has a virtually dead PVP scene in reality (As anyone who actually plays it can testify to) because losing shit is so punishing and fights are just ganks determined almost exclusively by numbers or gear with only a tiny sliver of player skill existing. All of these dusty discarded past games paint a pretty clear picture of mechanics that are not fun, everyone hates, and don't work.
The fact they chose those mechanics in spite of all evidence to the contrary screaming how bad they are is astounding, and why I shit on the stupid fat fucking design lead. Man you had every goddamn thing in the world telling you this wasn't the way to go and you did it anyway. You deserve being called a fucking retard.
>>530069827They're an earth tiger species evolved/adapted to selusa secundus
>>530070018>the steam score is going to drop like a rock.you are vastly underestimating the 'reddit gold' wholesome chungus gamers who play for 4 hours, accomplish nothing, and proceed to praise the game as the greatest thing they've ever played (alongside the 30 other greatest things they've ever played) whenever they're asked about it
bitches love their participation trophies
>>530070442Some of that I honestly think is a defensive mechanism, like "no this game is good, I didn't waste my money on it"
It's not about the game, it's about their own egos and trying to not look like a fool to others
>>530063870titanium this week is G6 top left, the rocks to the right of that spot are a mix of stravinium and titanium. pretty sure there is an island full of titanium in the top right of G4 by the lasgun lab.
>>530070638I love seeing the "I got my 100 hours out of it" cope
Like buddy, they didn't make this game for you to get 100 hours out of it. This is a 10 year magnum opus, they put half a decade of effort into it. You're supposed to be playing this for thousands of hours.
Anyone treating this as just a quick one and done game and they "got their money's worth" is objectively saying the game is an utter failure at what it set out to do.
>>530070018it could have been good and that is what bothers me so
it could have been good if it was fucking anything else than what it was
i don't necessarily want to be atreides or harkkonen, but if it was faction vs faction, that still would have been better. better still would have been minor houses you elect to fight for once a week (which would have been better than landsraad)
and air superiority being everything, no matter what, which made everything prior to it meaningless
it isn't the materials that bother me though that didn't help. because what value are the materials really? make that giant spice reactor to do fucking nothing with or the giant ore processor? nobody needs that shit and now after 3 duplication methods or even more being out in the wild for weeks, materials are categorically not a fucking reason to be in the DD. they can pretend to be misunderstood or something but the truth is they were either lazy or fucking stupid
>>530070901also true
the thing after 100 hours is missing
like it isn't there, the plot finishes and all that is left is to fuck off somewhere else
>>530068193Any idea what could have caused it? Is all your stuff in your chests etc. still there?
>>530071797Everything else was there but my walls and a water tank was gone I think it was a bug and not a raid
>>530076298Kinda sounds like it, yeah. Sucks that it had to happen to you, did you at least get stuff back up and running?
Just built the plastanium tier lasgun and did not get the cheevo for building a lasgun. Flew in and out of DD too and reset the game. Anyone get this one yet?
>find a wide open area, build a box.
>tuck yourself into complicated terrain and build a convoluted tumorous growth from the cliffside.
which way do you choose sleeper
>>530082263>tuck yourself into complicated terrain and build a box
Why aren't there any cool caves to build in
>>530083143they'd need more than just generic UE5 store assets for that
>supposed to have extra emotes
>go to inventory, hit A for loadout and C for emotes
>it opens an inventory on the left that's supposed to have the extra ones you can slot in
>they're nowhere to be found
Is there a fix for this?
>fly 30 minutes to deep desert
>Farm 2 titanium nodes
>die from rockets and lose a day's worth of progress
What's the point
>>530083143I like the ones where there's a big flat empty area in the middle of a tall spire of rock.
>>530085881to give a brazilian monkey you have a 35 IQ advantage over a half chub at killing you while you're defenselessly mining a rock and unable to run, fight, or react to him in any reasonable way
>>530083143Caves only work in Conan
Anyone crying about PvP and "griefing" are crybaby niggers, kill yourselves.
Game was fun for like 100 hours but the state itโs in is fucking unacceptable for a full release. They need to start offering refunds.
Why is nobody selling thermo responsive ray amplifiers
>>530087774Game is ruined the moment you enter DD
>>530083143there's one on reddit from yesterday thoughbeit
>>530088413game is ruined the moment your character knows how to magically assemble a laser-cutter out of a pile of slag metal and rocks
the progression is completely fucked and you spend all of half-a-tutorial existing in any form of 'stone age' struggle before every convenience completely solves itself for you
the entire thing needs to be recooked from the ground up, it's all inherently fucked
>>530088698It's fucking twenty thousand years beyond our time, scrap metal can be assumed to be sufficiently advanced that it's not that unbelivable to assemble a functional but wobbly laser cutter from shit you pick up from broken technology.
>>530070018>oooOOOOoooOnce the NOOOORMIES4chan pretending this is some hidden contrarian gem
>>530088698>>530091213Fuck, even the Fremen use technology that is, to our tech level today, complete science fiction. You have to readjust your approach to the material, man.
>>530091213This.
Hell in the books they hide out in some abandoned harko bunker that is over a thousand years old. Fresh food and everything thanks to the tech keeping everything like new. Its not unbelievable for scrap from ships to turn into a shitty laser that can cut stone. Or for those ships to also conveniently drop fuel cells we all need lol. Dune never really describes any true stone age style tech like bows afaik, but it would be nice if the tech progression were slower than it is. Even though it fits with the lore to jump up in tech quickly, gameplay wise it would be more interesting if it were slowed down imo.
>>530088698>'stone age' strugglenever played conan but I'm guessing you're saying this because you're comparing it to dune? you must be a fucking moron.
>>530086071no but seriously
what did they mean by this game design
like they just expected players to enjoy getting instantly blasted by rockets while trying to farm the 1 of 2 titanium nodes currently existing on the entire map?
>>530048460That's a nice Atreides base anon, gj
>>530092154God forbid we have gameplay that accurately reflects the technology level of the setting, I guess.
>>530092787We should all be tourists here, like real niggas. Dune game? Nah, its just survival slop and nothing more.
Only doomposting is allowed here.
>>530087948make them instead using normal ray amplifier and plate
Ornithopter storage is going to be disabled at some point with how abuseable it's been lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIzEnDfVRg
>>530094154>cheating your way past all the content
>>530094916That would be a valid argument if the game had content.
>>530094916Being zerged by an entire guild with rocket thopters in DD is not content
Can I carry everything I need in an assault ornithopter to make a forward base in DD?
>>muh lore
Yes, you dumb faggot
>>530095941Is he meant to look like an annoyed steroid clit?
>>530095852Depends on how big of a base you want and what machines you want. You will likely need multiple trips with an assault if you plan to do any refining there as you'll need both water storage and water production in addition to your refineries (not counting power generation as you can probably just spam t1 generators with a few windmills for a solo base).
>>530095852Yes, if you count "carry everything in an assault thopter" as meaning "you can do it within a dozen back and forth trips"
Building it out there is easier, but taking things back isn't
>>530096097that's basically what he turned into for a few thousand years, yeah
>>530096097yes
"My body is about seven meters long and somewhat more than two meters in diameter, ribbed for most of its length, with my Atreides face positioned man-height at one end, the arms and hands (still quite recognizable as human) just below. My legs and feet? Well, they are mostly atrophied. Just flippers, really, and they have wandered back along my body. The whole of me weighs approximately five old tons."
>>530097536I know the lore of Leto II, I was just questioning the artistic interpretation.
Does PVP mean I will be hostile against atreides if I'm also atreides?
>>530097792The pvp areas are a free for all. Not faction based whatsoever.
>>530095941>>530097648These look much more grotesque than the description implies, and he looks like he is being eaten by a worm instead of turning into one.
>>530098556He's basically a fusion of sandworm and human and grotesque. The only part of him distinctly fully human is his face. Everything else is covered in sandtrout/morphing into sandworm.
>>530094916no one here is doing this. the only guy that posted proof he even plays is the anime fag, the bimbo, and the imaginary brownguy who actually plays the end-game properly with friends and guilds. everyone else seems to be a /v/eddit doomtranny that wants to nitpick every aspect of the game as it continues to sell copies and probably quit the moment their game journalist level fingers hit aluminum.
There's a video for this thread!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKjXp24mh0
comfiest part of deep desert is hunting and salvaging the crashed ships even if it's just unnecessary tier 5 stuff
i kinda wanna reinstall just to hunt down more of them, damn
>>530103870I tried recruiting some mexicans for you, but so far no luck. Everyone sounds like a boomer or Valorant eboy and three girls. Two of them are typical base moms organizing and building. One of them is a bloodthirsty murderer that kills even friendlies if they don't use voice chat.
>>530105442Bugged worm deaths is why I'm too scared to do anything in the open now.
>>530095941This is what my gf looks like after playing WEGs all day. (She's trans).
Are you scared of minorities? Well here's the cheatsheet of where people decided to go unofficially. Notably, EU seems to have a large roleplay population on Mycenae.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kq9etHlvOX9wEXYldxfy8gz5d0E-gBz4ncF7nWjTMKI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Did the Mexicans spread your asscheeks in the DD? You may have been on EU-Buzzell or EU-Icarus, US-Chains of Karak, US-Limbo, US-Greed. See which minority child blew your asshole apart and raped you mercilessly!
There's something weird and possibly exploitable for a weapon dupe. Equip 1 weapon. Have second weapon in inventory. Have skin (u) on equipped weapon. Hover over second weapon and press left control to compare second weapon to equipped weapon. Drag second weapon onto equipped weapon, press u to customize it. I had no icon. I selected a skin. I then had two of the second weapon. The second weapon overwrote the equipped one. Then I opened up the exchange and they were back to original. I think if you quickdeposit the weapons you might overwrite weapons with what you want, thus duping weapons. Didn't try it. Let me know how it goes.
>>530107086>ArakkisFucking unplayable.
>Arakkis
Fucking unplayable.
Somehow I have repaired an Adept Kindjal to full. I picked it up from a chest at half dura.
>>530109417Did you put it in a chest, delete that chest then pick the dropped kindjal up from the floor, then log out for at least 30 seconds?
>>530110580No, I looted a chest, got blown up by a mine but didn't die, looted 3 more chests and got in my thopter. When I got back to base it was full dura. I somehow unintentionally got a full repair on that knife, but not the armor piece I looted in the same poi.
so whens the great scoliosis storm that wipes Hagga clean from crackden shacks
>>530107086I know I've myteriously gotten 2x of a quest reward before, like two thufir's best, I have the extra in a chest. Might've invertedly done something like you described
Man, they made Feyd Rautha strangely more likeable than anyone on the Atreides side
>>530114647devs obviously like harks. You can tell because they have hair in this game, unlike the recent movies. Hair instantly makes people more likable.
Sorry bald bros. It's true.
Also, Piter's VA really killed it.
>>530115310Well, it was more that they gave him personality beyond being a one dimensional psychopathic killer. I mean, he still is a psychopath, but they at least made him reasonable and amusing
>>530115310i dc'd before the final hark cutscene and it just completed the quest automatically, couldn't see the scene again, and left the quest items in my bag.
>>530114647still a faggy, limp-wristed deviantart e-boy compared to my nigga Sting
>>530116946Eh, still more book accurate than Feyd Baldtha at least
>>530117268the only harko in Dunc that was close to book accurate was Rabban. Dunc Vlad was no where near the talk your head off evil clown the book shows him to be. Dune 84 got him a lot more right.
Also, just how hard is it for any of these adapters to give Chani red hair? They never do.
>>530102625quit crying retard, you made a game that nosedived in quality and stopped being fun to play
either unfuck it or quit and go flip burgers for a living
>>530102625>it can't be that thing bad>it is a conspiracy where people will take time out of their day to hate this 1 game very specifically for absolutely no reasonaverage IQ on the internet resembles the dip in world IQ so i can believe you are actually this fucking stupid
>>530121727"smart" people stick around in post-mortem 4chan /vg/ threads being doomtrannies about games they already quit or never installed? what college did you go to?
>>5301026251st Saturday: 175k peak
2nd Saturday: 161k peak
3rd Saturday: 133k peak
4th Saturday: 108k peak
The game is losing 15-30k players per week.
Predictions:
5th Saturday: 86k peak
6th Saturday: 66k peak
7th Saturday: 50k peak
By the 2nd month after release, I expect the 8th saturday peak to be ~35-45k.
All they were planning on doing from here on out were some nice cosmetics, tileset DLC's, maybe a mini haga basin with +40 hours of story content.
Instead they have to basically finish their game. 6 years of development time already spent on this and it wasn't enough.
I think suits are gonna cut their losses, put the game on life support, stick with the DLC plan and then basically kill the game after a year.
>>530122258>steamchart chuds outthese are 40 player servers, if there's a gorillion players you'll never see a gorillion players, it'll just make your populist buttpussy quiver, forever seeking validation for not playing video games.
>>530122471You sure get defensive over your game crashing and burning
You know instead of coping about how it's uhm aktshully a success becauze u can play on a 40 person server (without mods no less lmao!)
There's always the possibility of putting in a lot of hard work and unfucking your game so that people want to keep playing it
>>530122667>over 1 mil sold>reviews rising like kwisitz haderach while trannies doom here
>>530122178i'm not even going to engage with you like you're a functional human being but something you are saying seems to come up a lot in a variety of games.
"doomtrannies"
seems like faggots have coined this term at some point to pull out whenever the corporate slop they are currently eating gets criticized for things that people are entirely within their right to criticize it for. in this case, the endgame
see, you're some worker drone brained concoomer fuckwit. do you even know why you're browbeating other people who want the product to be better? when you leap to the defense of this company, what is it in service of? that it continues to be dogshit?
at any rate, no, saying something is doing poorly is not "dooming". sorry you're a mindless hypebeast that took it personally that people didn't like what they got.
>>530122775Reviews are actually dropping, it's gone done I think ~3-6% since release and is now under the 80% mark. I just recently left my own negative review, in fact.
>>530094154>ANOTHER dupe glitchFucking lol
>>530122928it can have another negative cause the resident thread faggot seems to want me to do that
>>530122803>>530122928no you didn't, you have to purchase the game. you're some jobless /v/ trannoids who don't play games, just watch streams and reddit posts.
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>>530123114the game has lesbians, ugly females, girl bosses and you're telling me reddit doesn't like it? i wouldn't know personally. and twitch streamers don't like it? i wouldn't know, i haven't watched that either. but you seem to know all about it
>>530123294>"i'm not reddit, you're reddit" - redditfrogposteramazing
>NEETs with no lives finish game in under a week, get mad at there being an end to their dopamine and now must shitpost everywhere in desperate attempt to recover from their drug addiction
And other unremarkable stories coming to you now
>>530123426oh by the way, i made this thread, i will not make another lol
>in our DD base repairing our walls while a full raid tries to lasgun their way in
>vg thread: THE GAME IS DEAD! STOP IT! THERES NO ONE PLAYING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM LEAVING A BAD REVIEW AHHHHHH THEY MADE ME BLEED MY OWN BLOOD NO ONE DOES THAT
>>530122775It's a great IP and the presentation and early-mid game is good, especially the early game before all challenge in surviving disappears.
Word of mouth got a lot of early sales before people hit the lategame, but now they're starting to hit the lategame and everyone's opinions are flipping. It's a shame really, if the game stayed as good as it was in the first 1/3rd into the latter 2/3rds it'd be a 10 million+ seller, I 100% believe that.
It's when you hit that mid-lategame that you realize all the buildup you were expecting out of it evaporates, everything is super easy, there's no challenge in PVE, and the PVP is literally straight out of some griefers wet dream. Even as a PVP player in other games I basically haven't been able to experience anything fun in this, despite how good the foundational combat mechanics are, because the entire framework around PVP is so bad.
The point the game really misses it's fist step is right after the starter area in hagga basin. It's excellent up to your first base around anvil, and then the problems start cropping up a little bit more and more. By the time you've moved again up to the shield wall/aluminum area, the cracks in the game are really starting to show - thopters, bindu sprint, shigawire, leap belts, dew reapers, deathstills, decaliterjons... all basically invalidate every environmental challenge or introduce massive convenience so that you never worry about surviving. You get your big final base built, ready for the deep desert and that's when it really hits, the game stalls out. Even before the deep desert it stalls out, but most players don't really recognize that and tie everything to just the deep desert alone as the culprit.
No, the game stalls out massively once you're in the aluminum area, the mystery is starting to evaporate, the difficulty vanished 50 hours ago too, you're not finding new challenges anymore, it's all the same stuff with no replayable dynamism or challenge.
>>530124208i actually didn't mind the aluminum and had an autistic base plan for it
3500 storage inventory is enough for 120 aluminum in 4 medium ore refineries (30 seconds each so it comes to an hour), which with 4 deathstills or 2 upgraded deathstills, you had exactly enough water to run everything for an hour using all your water and all your ore in a perfect loop. and every buggy trip took roughly that long maybe.
all for nought. all the autistic math was in service to me just doing that forever and not bothering with DD, though i did force myself to try and like it
>>530124567oh to clarify i did get like 300 plastanium by myself using literjons to dump water at DD which i had a medium chemical refinery and ore refinery at. but the back and forth trips were actual cancer and the changes made it longer. there is no reason to want to advance any further if you are playing with friends (my friends all quit before getting to DD and they never even got to sample the """"""""""""PVP"""""""""""")
>>530094154>works like a charm>easier/faster than previous since no need to log out or go to DDwhy are chinks so goddamn powerful. Norway doesn't stand a chance
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CAN YOU GET THESE GUYS OFF THE TOP OF MY BASE WITH YOUR DEAD GAME PARAGRAPHS THEY'RE NOT STOPPING, MIGHT BE BECAUSE WE HELD THE LASGUN LAB ENTRANCE ALL WEEK SO FAR BUT DANG
>>530123656>i will not make anotherthank you
>spawn in from world map
>fly up to get some height
>see this
rip lil bro, arrakis was too much for him
Does the replicator copy everything you place in a base? Like crafting stations? or just walls/floors/roofs/ect.
>>530129528Only the building parts, no placeable machines or storage are included.
>>530127974guy forgot his hover pack broke twenty minutes ago
I got myself 2000 plastinium 3000 spice melange and a full set of regis incl. missile launcher with the new lagswitch dupe
It's not cheating; this is my just and rightful share of the wealth as a solo player so I can compete in guerilla war against zerg blobs in DD
>>530131985You can dupe full stacks with the new method and LARP'd an incredibly small amount. Ask Grok or ChatGPT to formulate realistic material numbers for you since you can't see the costs without purchasing and installing the game.
>>530132128>You can dupe full stacksNo you can't retard you're limited by VBT-able vehicle inventory volume. A single scout thopter's storage worth per lag switch
I mean, obviously I could do it for hours and fill tons of medium storages but I don't need to, and if they're gonna start banning, they'll hit the most obvious targets via telemetry, so hoarding up to 'autistic, but theoretically possible' numbers is the smartest way
>>530109417Something to do with using the world map after looting an item, had the same happen after looting the chests in the small pvp wreck in SW Sheol and leaving via world map afterwards
>>530132128being a smug retard doesn't work very well when you're uninitiated with the subject matter yourself, anon
>>530133395>>530133395Don't worry, you are in no danger having not bought the game.
>>530133807>>530109417try something?
drop a half-repaired/half-red item at the edge of the map, give it a sec to 'cook', pick it up off the ground from the little storage box it makes, get in your thopter and enter the world map - see if it repairs in similar fashion
>unpaid beta testersthanks funcom
i think the 'nobody else played' guy is actually here from somewhere else, and doesn't play, and this is all some meta humour gen z thing or trolling or some bullshit
>>530088698Retard. You pick up a Fremkit, the Fremkit is your backpack and has a "personal fabricator" in it. You're feeding the raw materials to it and its spitting out the cutter presumably after breaking down the metal and 3d printing it like we literally see happen on the other fabricators in game.
>>530136069301 hours is absolutely unhinged what the fuck
>>530136069>>530136148damn I've been slacking. losing two assault thopters to """"""pvp"""""" in the dd really put me off playing in the last week or two
>>530136069I dont have a job and have been playing non-stop and even I didn't get this level of fucked
>>530136069>stellar blade>first descendant
>>530140831Don't listen to him anon, you've got good taste in gooner games
I've never played TFD but I've played with TFD players if you know what I mean.
>>530140831>>530141189i'll have you know my oblivion was also a gooner game.
>>530142630i played it and not for the tits and ass, but because i missed the boat on warframe and liked the gameplay
it looks like it is peak gooncore more than it already was with those bikini skins though. like fr i was an enzo main and the gunplay felt good
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>>530143180To be honest generic coomer fair like bikinis don't do it for me but Hailey and Ines' outfits really do.
Yes I only wear a stillsuit in Dune, how could you tell?
>>530143180enzo was meta in groups for a long time, then got replaced by an ammo pack dog
>>530143865you can't just stack every damage buff he has and enduring legacy something to death anymore? they did my boy wrong then
where the fuck is the doon discussion
>>530143865>>530143963It's over Dooners, us Gooners own this thread now.
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>>530143963there is nothing left to be said
>>530143963you guys hate discussing what i'm doing
>>530144275post about it so we can call you brown
>>530144275you are doing that but i wanted it to be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfkK51dYUbI
not that gay shit
Is it really that easy to make money in this game?
>>530144307well, we got raided by another alliance trying to take back control of labs. they killed one base, gloated about it (one guy was there) and we had an all out brawl when they tried to take our fob in front of the lab which they discovered was far from empty. a lot of them got away sadly, either by pocketing their thopter and suiciding or making it out of our range. the lab is still ours and we dropped 4 thopters. no one tried crawler farming today. one of our guys has 27 lasgun schematics, i have 11. after their raid fell apart we mostly repaired and dueled a bunch, people logged. been ganking solo for two hours.
>>530144521early days of ps2 were fucking SOVL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQE6UWjGQnQ
>>530145070it was amazing and any time i get a hint that a game might ever facilitate that experience again i go for it
imagine some large combined arms fight in dune, where all the tanks you made were off a factory line you organized for some massive war effort. could have been kino
we definitely got the ps2 a2g thing captured though, cause DD is exactly what that feels like with even less counterplay lol
>>530144856looks like you just made 600000, so that was pretty easy
also duping exists and people are worried their accounts will be banned so they're buying second accounts, duping, the laundering the money with the auction house lol
The fact there's like 15 contracts in the game and one of them is the bullshit Lasgun one is nuts to me, when I started I really thought that these would be randomly generated after you complete the named ones.
Imagine planetside except you can't use tanks or ground vehicles for more than 500m before it gets instakilled by environmental damage and you can only use air transport everywhere and also fighters had 5x the health and moquito hellfire rockets had 500 ammo instead of 48
>>530145938>I really thought that these would be randomly generated after you complete the named onesIt would be too convenient and thought-through.
>>530146020I have like 500 hours in PS2 and I can assure you that piltos made the game ass to play half the time regardless.
>>530146209It would seem so, I know it would be low effort and lazy content that most people would shit on but I just like having a purpose to run a lab or cave.
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>>530146020i would pay $100 for that incredible gaming experience
>>530144856Always has been, which is why PVE players whining about DD to build T6 gear never made sense. It's far easier to buy the stuff to make T6 gear than actually manufacturing it.
What the game really needs is actual arena PvP for 1v1 and groups. Add in some ranking system and that'll keep at least some of the player base sufficiently busy until the next DLC drop. Ideally also with no durability loss when you compete.
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>never used a crysknife
>need to die to the worm a second time to get one and i never made that mistake again after my keeb disconnected and sent me on my sandbike into the worms mouth
>no idea what they do just assume theyre a knife like any other
>get zantaras
>equip it
>hit one guy with a shield
>instantly breaks without literally ever doing any damage
If I'd known it instantly broke and wasn't able to be fixed I'd never have used it at all... I love heirlooms in games.
>>530147389i did that too
Update on the spice spider base.
Not really sure what is going on here.
What the best area for my endgame base ?
>>530148337i chose eastern shieldwall, close access to tarl cutterray schematics and world map border is a 10 second flight, and i can enter the map from 11 o clock and my base is 300m up a cliff in wormsafe sand. though it's mostly just a dragon hoard for all my DD loot these days.
If i leave by bike outside in enclosed / sheltered area and log off, will it be fucked up once i log back in if theres a sandstorm?
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gurney halleck tried to fuck his sergeant's feet
>>530149413God I get it, I know she's not supposed to be a bad person, she's got PTSD or some shit but Oh my GOD did she wear thin on me. She's so bitchy, disrespectful, and I'm on what I'm guessing is her final quest and she STILL WANTS ME TO GET HER DRUGS? I figured by now she'd have character arced into being a straight laced trooper again.
Also calling me "boot" like I've not killed a bajillion people for less.
>>530149308If it says sheltered or enclosed it should be fine.
>>530149308If it says sheltered, it is fine, but be warned that other players and shove things around a little by ramming their vehicles into them.
What do you call the crystals that make duraluminium? I can never remember their actual name, so they alternate between Pripyat, Fukushima and Chernobyl crystals.
>>530149413Learning that Halleck is a foot man seriously ruined my day
im sort of stuck in the hagga rift with a full inventory. How long does stuff stay on the ground? I can get out by clearing my inventory, storing my vehicle, flying up , putting my bike down then going back for my stuff, but im afraid to lose my precious loot
>>530151614Not very long, but if you're interacting with the loot bag at intervals it gets pushed back
>>530151614>>530151709If you get out of draw range it's irrevocably lost though
>>530143931gun descendants powercept the shit out the game, and it's not even close, and they won't nerf after the backlash of ines nerfs.
>>530151614Do you not have the pokeball gun
>>530152060>did not understand the assignment
>Every single issue with this game is solvable had they just given players single player/coop servers and the DD had been filled with AI combined arms warfare that was faction v faction
>>530143963I prefer dyoon
>>530151996yeah but my bike was full as well.
I managed to get unstuck and drove out of the rift, so we're all good
>>530152419we can sit and wait for that to happen
probably not while playing this though
as duping infinite resources is entirely a thing you can do, so the only reason you wouldn't do that is to brick your account when everyone has 99999999999 solari and 99999999 plastanium
I just learned that the "observer" build pieces are twitch drops. Faith in humanity dwindling.
Can
>>530154594The game isn't just about building, anon, there's plenty t-
Oh nevermind hahahaha
kinda shit that you can zone into the basin right in the middle of a sandstorm, no warning on the map or anything
>>530155026i just lifted into the air because the sandworm was coming, sandstorm be damned
>>530136069sheesh, and I thought I put a lot of time into this game.
I tried to do some PvP for the first time but just couldn't hit anyone with my blade.
Even if it wasn't 2 on 1, I doubt I could ever land a hit because they just dodged regardless of what skill I used on them.
Where did it go wrong?
are they planning on adding more planets to the game other than my desert, my Arrakis, my dune?
>>530160023The game should have some sort of a system where you can practice pvp before risking it all in the dd. Like how in wow you can do skirmish arenas before arenas, or even just battlegrounds. Here you spend 100 hours of never having to face another player and then you're thrown into the deep end of the pool where sharks with 300 hours /played are fucking you in the ass
>>530160023You shouldn't be using the heavy attack unless they are out of stamina or stuck somewhere they can't dodge. It's too slow and easy to dodge out of. That's why all the PvP faggots use the rapier since it has a lunge making it able to hit people who dodge away. The goal in melee is always to deplete someone's stamina first before worrying about doing damage to them.
>>530160741you can do what in wow?
the only thing I remember of wow pvp is running around stonetalon mountains only for a max level rogue to corpse camp me for about three hours until I finally went to bed
>We will deploy a patch on with some changes and fixes 7 July
What are the odds it has no changes and no fixes
>>530160961bro ive never understand people who this. Or, in the /dune/, people who use their guild to gang up on solo or duo players. What the fuck is the point. I've always enjoyed pvp for the challenge and the prospect of getting better. There's no fun or challenge in just curbstomping people
>>530160023You have to break their poise to land heavy attacks
>>530158583you think one hundred hours is a lot?
>>530161529It's the same mentality that leads people to only try to bully someone that they perceive as weaker than them, behaviour as old as time
>>530160023bring a life scanner when heading into pvp dungeons. would have let you know they're there waiting. and try to get out of the habit of dodging into them to close distance or away to make distance, waste of stam. use air dash instead or shiggawire or just sprint. other advice posted here is good, need to be very careful of stamina management.
>>530162572How does the meme go again? In funcom slop, 100 hours is an eternity, in a good game, 100 hours is nothing at all.
>>530163164>satisfactorydoes that dogshit have actual blueprinting yet or is it still the shitty cope grid things
>>530164197They added blueprints like three years ago, but you could only blueprint a fairly small box and the prints wouldn't connect to each other, requiring manual conveyor and powerline and pipe connecting between prints. With 1.0 they added larger blueprinting, but still no connection until the 1.1 patch (just a few months ago). Now it's alright. Significantly better than it was.
I love camping. I really wish they'd buff the water gain in this, or make it so it carried over between deployments. You could just make it work the exact same as a stillsuit.
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>>530160741>system where you can practice pvp before risking it all in the ddThey have an idea of this with all the hagga shipwrecks and Sheol, but in practice, I've never seen another person in them even at primetime.
In a better world, we'd have Harkonnen fighting pits with PVP and waves of team PvE ala Conan's purges with exclusive rewards for both sides along with spectating tournaments.
Is the tleilaxu bunker the last MSQ? Can I uninstall?
>>530166407Yes and I'm so edged for more ugh
I wish they'd at least wrapped up the main threads
What is the point in even having pillars if they're basically impossible to use? Why is this even a mechanic?
Guys, I think feyd-rautha is gonna ntr us with ariste...
Ghola cock isn't enough to satisfy her...
>>530165156Yeah the tent is great, wish the game had more incentives to explore on foot rather than taking the vehicles everywhere
>>530166882Well if you start from the ground and not from above you wouldnt have stability issues
>>530167476Duh but then you can't align things because they're not snapped into place.
The good news is some janky bullshit you could do in Conan works here too so I managed.
>>530167320Ghola pussy, on the other hand.
if I was a ghola I'd give my penis the nickname 'rigor mortis'
when i deleted my character to remake my hair, i expected my claim would disappear, but it remained until a server reset and then disappeared, leaving the building intact.
i wonder if accounts are getting banned as we speak, people are stumbling on bases chock full of materials and solari.
https://www.reddit.com/r/duneawakening/comments/1lsyziw/i_just_came_across_an_abandoned_base_and_found/
>>530170725>ban people for duping>leave the duped payloads waiting to be claimed by random passerbyjoel's vision
>>530170931I mean the bases (and the mats inside) will be destroyed by the sandstorms, but ofc if people find them before that then it's free loot
This is the first game I've ever played where there are people whose only goal in the game is to troll, grief or otherwise make the experience miserable for other people, and to then clip those events and upload them on their 10 subs channels to farm 150 views. It's like stepping in to a zoo and watching less intelligent lifeforms for the first time.
>>530172060my favorites are the ones with 'production value' that doll up their seal-clubbing like it's the sickest shit ever that they're effectively performing suplexes on toddlers while a darktide track blares in the backdrop
bless their fucking hearts, i love gamers
Wait, I'm about to be banned for duping?
>>530172402anomynous will pay for his CRIMES
>>530172402>Wait, I'm about to be banned for duping?funcom current lipservice is that "they have full player-tracking widget control" over deterministically snooping player data, and that they're apparently aware of everyone who has ever cheated ever (omniscience)
very very few people currently claiming to have been banned and zero proofs given with each one that pops up, so who knows
conan, their previous survival slop title, went its entire lifespan with basically no consequence to the wicked - so who knows really
>>530172323>doom music kicks in>you and 3 of your friends heroically take down this random fag in a stillsuit crying and shitting in the middle of a tiny spice field>guitar squeals as his body evaporates into vapour from the plasma and concussive force of 100 rockets
>>530170725How come sometimes when i come across abondomed buildings you can loot the chests, but sometimes it says you dont have permission? The amount of time that has passed since decaying?
>>530173296God that's hilarous
Joel's vision is fucking inspired
>>530173296>>530174514>you and 3 of your friends heroically take down this random fag in a stillsuit crying and shitting in the middle of a tiny spice fieldcanonically how the sardukar wiped out the fremen in this timeline btw
>>530172060>>530172323>>530173296ikr? i've killed so many people i'd have hundreds of those clips if i cared about taking them. i like to whisper "hail sithis" while executing.
>>530172060First time playing with chinks?
>>530175696they're both literally referencing youtube videos, probably searching "how to dupe dune awaknig"
>>530172060>and to then clip those events and upload them on their 10 subs channels to farm 150 viewsYou've never seen those "lvl60 rogue camping redridge with 128kbps linkin park" videos on youtube back in 2006?
Goodbye old base, you served me well for like 70 hours.
That Anon who said you either build an open area box or a cliffside rat warren was actually pretty spot on.
so I got to late game and now everything requires an inordinate amount of melange
is there an efficient way of getting solo? small spice fields seem so ineffective that it would take dozens to make anything at all
large ones just have people throwing rockets at anything that comes close
what do?
>>530173024>>530173276Not banned yet, I wanted to wait for the next cycle in hopes of 25% crafting cost reduction before I ship my shit to deep desert for the achievement crafts but now I'm rattled...
>>530176452Those were always the exception rather than the rule. So far everything I see in terms of Dune video uploads related to PvP it's ONLY that.
>>530170725Niggas are quitting because the game is shit too.
I like this game a lot :)
>>530176452i did that as a fun pastime without even making videos. all i had were rogues and rogue alts across a dozen servers. my best geared one was my general rank MC geared rogue in vanilla (true vanilla), then i'd gank all over outlands, especially newbies in hellfire, would drop right into the inn. people would log on their mains and get clapped too. wotlk i ganked all over the daily areas. oh yeah, all the rings of blood type events were good for ganking lowbies trying to get weapons. it wasn't even fair how i did it to 'em in cataclysm, my guild decided i needed the first fangs of the father, and i had a heroic vial of shadows. fully geared players getting globaled by procs. MoP i camped the pvp vendor on the wall while a druid tanked the guards, just beat the shit out of players trying to buy their gear.
>>530176767For 99% of melange requirements, you can just farm something else and buy it outright from the exchange for around 1k/ea, at least on Solitary. Running Sheol back in Hagga in a radiation suit, grabbing the four blueprints from hark base up north, the large shipwreck, shaitan's cave, and the southwest most ship can be quick cash especially with the irradiated slag sweetening the run. Diamondine Dust is also an easy run for cash every hour even if the market for it is overly saturated now. Undercut aggressively so your shit sells in a decent timeframe, about 20% under or a real price if things are so inflated nothing's moving
For the biggest shit like the large ore refinery or large spice refinery, you may wanna farm the spice yourself and refine in a medium refinery preferably to soften the cost. At awful hours or early early mornings, you can typically go unmolested in DD grabbing spice from medium blows without too much headache. I was able to grab about 17k sand with my scout this morning from 5 to 7AM before DD started getting hot.
>>530178056I think people like you have something wrong in their head.
>>530178056Sounds very jewish.
Joel was stimming so much over his vision for 6 years that he forgot to make an actual game.
>>530178869No you don't get it as long as 99% of the playerbase roleplay as NPCs for the remaining 1% the vision works perfectly
>>530178557>>530178575other people's anguish brings me great joy, i don't know how to feel about it, except stab more people in video games. if you can imagine how overpowered unnerfed vial of shadows and fangs of the father was, i was 10x stronger with much weaker opponents in aion and tera. my slayer would tear through groups of shitters. oh warhammer age of reckoning, we were so dominant in battlegrounds people just left or afk'd in their graveyard. i played a witch elf and there was lvl 35 proc daggers that didn't have the concept of ppm, meaning they proc'd with witch elf procs, also no concept of ppm, leading to ridiculous chain procs that pierced armor and shredded tanks instantly, combined with an AoE kidney shot called On Your Knees! and if they moved? armor piercing bleed damage, they died faster.
>>530179106Sounds like you were bullied as a child and you're coping with the trauma by inflicting the same kind of meaningless suffering on others in a medium where you have a chance.
>>530179438oh not at all, i actually was a bully myself up to about 8th grade, but zero tolerance policy is a bitch. stabbed a kid in the neck with a pencil, poured glue on some mexican kids head, poured soda on a hawaiian faggot and shoved him into the trashcans, full bodyslams and headlocks in british bulldog, three guys jumped me once and took my hat and was playing keep away, so i pulled a 5 inch lockblade and held it to one of their necks and they gave it back. i kept them in my sleeve usually.
>>530179106Yup, definitely jewish.
>>530180027Is this guy serious?
The fact you weren't too embarrassed to hit post after typing this is insane to me.
>>530146020air niggers were the worst thing to happen to planetside
I even gave it a try to see if it was actually "fair and balanced" like the airniggers said it was, 50:1 KDR just blasting people on the ground, I was an absolute fucking noob all I knew to do is point and click at people and boost away if they had rockets and hope I don't run into anyone A2A and I was going fucking 50:1, I can't even imagine what the actual airnigger KDRs were like
imagine seeing that kind of gameplay and going, "wow I want that for my game too except even more lenient we'll remove all the anti air options and force people to be on foot if they're on the ground"
I cant' fucking believe people who think like that exist
>>530150856its ok my sietch is white, trannies, but they're white
>>530180027Woah I am so incredibly impressed and intimidated, I hope I never come across you in a video game or real life because you would surely kick my ass considering how badass you are. A real life main character, one might say.
>>530154594Trust me it's a good thing you don't have these, they cause massive performance problems at long draw distance and it's definitely an issue they will never fix.
>>530180027This is about as believable as the holocaust. Your jewish power fantasies are pure cringe to all us normal people.
ah sarcasm, but those bitch tears keep flowing when you're on the ground and full of loot, no bravado.
>>530160023I had a feeling rapier was going to be defacto PVP winner due to it's range and attack speed. There's no reason to use a knife over that.
They should have kept it sword/knife only, rapiers the best of both
>>530160023you're bad and don't know how to use suspensor blast right.
>>530165285because sietchs only fit 60 people at once max and most only have 10 people in them online at the same time you realistically speaking never run into anyone in hagga and never run any risk of pvp anywhere
still, FFA shipwrecks and shit in hagga wouldn't have changed things, you would have nolifers camping them if there were enough people to support it, and it would still be a 0 to 100 situation for the majority of players.
yet another thing about PVP they massively fucked up in this game.
>>530181037a more-responsive parry would be the solution to rapiers imo, they have a super predictable attack pattern that would play right into it
it's goofy that you can't engage with the block/parry mechanic at all if someone causes a single frame of 'stagger' animation from striking your shield
>>530174350can't loot them unless the subfief console is destroyed or they stopped paying taxes
them failing to power their shields just means sandstorms wreck things but its not until the console is gone that you can actually loot or claim
>>530181037They should give daggers more slow attack damage due to how you could more easily place your blade.
Swords should be focused on normal strikes with actual combo movesets.
And rapier should stay as it is, more range means more reliable slow attacks and poise shit.
>>530180923>doesn't deny the jew allegations I knew it. I can spot your kind from a mile off.
>>530182957i didn't deny being a mexican, indian, or chinese either, so at the moment i'm a jewish mexican indian chinese pvp man, according to the thread.
>>530181850All that's going to matter in melee is reach and poise dps, slow attacks being better with a knife will never make up for not landing those slow attacks in the first place.
Right now its
Knife - better slow attack, faster attacks
Rapier - better reach, faster attacks
Sword - group parry
of these, sword is garbage (except in PVE), knife is passable, but rapier has everything you actually want.
Something like a spear would almost definitely be even better, as it would have fast attacks and even better reach with no downside they could implement in the game (it gets caught on fucking everything in a tight space).
>>530183535it's possible you might be the problem if you so easily accumulate unfortunate titles like this, anon
at least you're highly cultured now
>>530183535Nah you're a kike. If you get the opportunity you should kill yourself.
>>530183896it's not even approaching half the anguished cries of DD chat, they claim i'm griefing them when i'm not even online according to my guild.
>>530184408It would make us super duper mad and angry if you killed yourself. Please don't do that we would all be SO MAD!!
>>530184956When you're done seething, don't forget to kill yourself!
>>530185320i post with spergs on /vt/, you're gonna have to try a little harder than reddit babby's first uncensored post.
>>530184408I like how you're implying we are the people you are preying on in the game. Most of the people here either don't engage with deep desert or just go about their business there. You thinking generals are full of average shitters is pathetic, and the fact you're conflating us shitting on the non existent end game with whatever the fuck is happening elsewhere is hilarious.
>>530185607Uh huh very interesting, so when will you be killing yourself? Before or after lunch?
>>530185615i am well aware most of you are too scared to even enter a hagga basin pvp wreck. also yes, you're all bad. if you were good you wouldn't cry. good people don't spend all their time crying about how they want 1v1 honor fair duels then turn into a bitch and back down when offered.
>>530186109What are you even going on about? Again mixing up whatever the fuck you're reading somewhere with these generals shitting on the lack of endgame content. It's not like people are posting sob stories here how they are getting railed by you the PvP god. No matter how hard you try things aren't true just because you shout them real loud.
>>530186518your tears are falling before me right now. that's how i see it. that's how i'm enjoying it. you're crying, and i'm basking.
>>530186109>>530186746Ok but when you kill yourself this afternoon can you do it on stream? Thanks a bunch, have a nice death!! :D
>>530186746Case in point. I'm doing okay, but you choose to tell yourself something to try and feel better about yourself. That's fine, I suppose.
he says with massive butthurt melty from the anon above him
>>530187295Lots of idf are killing themselves due to ptsd. Join the trend of your fellow jews! Kys ASAP! :D
>>530187853>the average shitter itts reaction to the mere thought of being pvp'd in a pvp zone
What am I supposed to do here?
Every time one of these trash talking "top PvPers" get challenged to a fight they always chicken out or get their ass whooped. There's a very identifiable trend between people having a compulsion to talk trash and being bad at games. It's probably why Dune attracted a lot of them, since sealclubbing is incentivised.
>>530188706The office just received a call from your mother, she needs you to go home and kill yourself.
>>530188706No, I'm telling you to kill yourself because you are jewish and therefore you deserve to die. Glad I could clear that up, I don't want there to be a misunderstanding.
>>530190109can you tell the guys who call me juan i'm uhh, gankstein or something?
>>530190607Just use a trip
>>530190728oh it's this doomtranny. no wonder you're looking for youtube videos to cry over.
>they're klillin le heckin innocent gatherers and posting clips! we're talking about pve endgame btw!
>>530190607The only thing we should call you is "the recently deceased" because you've finally done the right thing and killed yourself.
Are daggers just trash?
I'm using that blood drinking unique dagger from the first area, but the standard sword seems to be outpreforming it.
>>530188884prior to last week, there was a bug where the target you need to kill was actually a low level melee mob in one of the end rooms of a completely different research station north of there. If nothing spawns there after a time, they did not fix the bug probably, so follow this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIOIB-KrqKo
>>530190903The fuck are you talking about
if you want people to call you gankstein use a tripcode, this describes how they work for newfags: https://4chan.org/faq#trip
>>530192059i don't, i'm mocking you but you're too dumb to understand, but that's the usual here. you can add as many names to your tushy tumult pile as you want, they have as much meaning as calling a dog a cat.
>he doesn't realise everyone is making fun of him
>a-a-actually I'm mocking you all
kek
>realise
>confirms he's actually the same exact trannoid with a "we" in his pocket
>>530191895Daggers aren't trash, you're just running into standard garbage MMO design principles with leveled loot. Those exsanguinating daggers are actually somewhat desirable for the low level players who haven't got deathstills yet (you will run into higher level versions eventually), so they have utility on top of being ok for PVE (when they are properly leveled).
Swords are better for PVE but only because you can parry 1 dude and the 4 other dudes around you also get stunned by it. This really only matters in the deep desert PVE/P zones where you have to deal with 3+ melee guys trying to play grabass, but since most of the PVE in the game is piss easy and you don't have to worry about multiparry against a horde of enemies through virtually all of the content, I always found daggers more fun just because the attacks are faster.
For PVP the rapiers are better because they have dagger-like attack speed combined with reach, making it harder for people to dodge out of attacks.
>>530192284yeah, I can tell already that you're the resident thread schizo
>>530192284Nah, I'm gonna need you to wear a big yellow star on your shirt so I can make sure to remind you to kill yourself in case you forget. Thanks in advance
nothing like dunenon assblasties while farming burning singularity reactors in the morning
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Dear new 4chan users: A passive-aggressive non-quote reply is counted as a Super Triple (You) and is regarded as the fastest way to show you have lost the argument entirely, that you acquiesced to defeat, there is no greater loss state. It's equivalent to being eaten by Shai-Hulud in game terminology. Whoever does it first, lost everything.
>>530193829Just shut up and post more TFD.
>>530193829>mfw spamming bosses because I still need some better components
There should be mini bosses on the map like conan
>>530196060>posting this bald retardLiving embodiment of 'as long as you pretend to know what you're talking about and say it in an authoritative tone sheep will believe you'
>>530199794there should be bosses in general. i feel like they tried to create a few, but they just ended up being normal enemies with a slightly bigger health pool and nothing to distinguish them from the mooks
more things that modders would have solved in a month if these dumb bastards didn't insist on The Vision
>>530200923The problem is that most devs are retarded and think boss = normal dude with more hp
bosses are enemies with entirely unique movesets, it's not about them being bullet sponges
so much game design must be getting done by jeets now who don't know fucking anything about anything
>>530199959His armor video criticizes some dude's build that mixes armor types, attacking him for "not know what he's doing" meanwhile the bald retard is the actual moron who doesn't know what he's talking about, as the guy was building for PVP from learned experience in PVP, not from crunching numbers in excel, and realized what's most important in PVP is actually STAMINA and not EHP and built around a stamina/EHP compromise, not dart vs melee damage like bald retard thought.
The guy's in insufferable arrogant prick, you can just tell.
>>530201474I was actually subbed to him on youtube for a long ass time until he started doing Dune stuff and I realized how insufferable he really is. He's little better than that thor guy everyones hating on now.
>>530201474I mean he made a video about the PvP area saying "It's not that bad" because you can "just fly away". Kinda tells you all you need to know about how much he actually plays the game rather than crunch numbers in excel.
>>530201172>The problem is that most devs are retarded and think boss = normal dude with more hpMostly, though its more accurate to say adding more hp pay is the absolute easiest way to add "diificulty", and thus saves on dev time. There are some VERY simple mathematics underpinning most game design decisions of that type, and devs are their own worst enemies when it comes to picking innovation and effort over economy of effort.
>>53020192090% of that video was showing how to get away with the scout and the last bit of the video was agreeing with the position that PVP was ass. He is insufferable, but its his schtick.
>>530202638The problem is that all he looks at is the stats of things
>oh this has more speed therefor you can escapeThat's great and all, but it doesn't really address the fact that 99% of all deaths to PvP in the DD is getting blasted while you're on the ground because the limited draw distance doesn't allow you to see an incoming threat in time. It's a bit like Joel and his vision, sounds great in theory, but it doesn't play out that way.
I'm guessing the guilds were removed from the OP because they no longer exist? What servers are still popular if I want to start a new character?
>>530202963>That's great and all, but it doesn't really address the fact that 99% of all deaths to PvP in the DD is getting blasted while you're on the ground because the limited draw distance doesn't allow you to see an incoming threat in time.thats 100% true, but your only real defense against that as a player is not to be in the DD at all. Him looking at numbers (in the right context, which does miss often as in the PVP example mentioned already) is usually all you have that is player actionable. The things that players CANNOT act against is what is killing the game.
>>530203260https://dunestatus.com/
If language matters, some EU guy made a spreadsheet of various EU servers and the predominant languages. You'll have to google that one yourself though, I don't have it saved.
>>530201920Yeah, I distinctly recall him saying "if these guys just dropped their spice harvester we would've left them alone" and then immediately after that says his friend dropped a thumper on the guys' destroyed thopter making it very clear that no, they wouldn't have been left alone if it was just about resources. Because doing shit like thumping a guys' ride doesn't get you anything, it actually costs resources to do that for zero material gain and they still did it, which completely invalidates his prior argument only seconds before saying they'd leave players alone if they just dropped their shit instead of "greeding" (trying to get away from gankers).
>>530203260The way the game is designed you unironically want the lowest pop servers for optimal play as there are virtually zero good/beneficial interactions with other players available to you. Either you go in with a guild already in mind, or fuck you. There's no in-game tools to matchup with people, DD is shoot-on-sight, most of the lategame loot is first come first served so everyone including your friends are competition for loot, and there's no repetitive replayable content unless you enjoy every fight being in 5vs1 ganks.
I'm on a relatively popular server and the only net benefit I'm getting from that is seeing all the funny salt in DD chat every day, and I guess seeing everyone's formulaic NPC box builds.
>>530203449His context for the video was that "people are scared of nothing" in the DD area. I agree with some of his conclusions in a vacuum, like the fact that you most definitely can fly away from rocket thopters now. The problem is that it's not representative of what is currently taking place in the DD and so acting high and mighty while calling the people who don't want to go there pussies and retards is just stupid. The guy tries way too hard to be edgy and rude for no reason.
>>530203870>Yeah, I distinctly recall him saying "if these guys just dropped their spice harvester we would've left them alone"Hah yeah that video example he used was awful to support his point, even his usual fans made fun of him for it.
>>530199794Fuck no.
Conan bosses were just HP sponges without any interesting mechanics.
>be newfag, go into this game blind
>scared shitless of sandworms
>eventually learn the mechanics and it's not that bad
>unlock bike
>woosh around to next area
>hmm red areas on the map, what are these
>makes more noise
>like, a lot more noise
>ok.jpg
>go about my business and occassionally swoosh over these red areas if I know I can get away with it
>swoosh over one at supersanic speed
>it's not noise sand, it's quicksand
>fucking fuck me
>get off bike and barely manage to avoid drowning
>worm is roaring meanwhile
>grapple and sprint for my fucking life
>just barely get to a safe rocky area
>sandworm pops up right behind me and stares at me motherfuckingly
Excuse me, I need to go change my pants now.
Rip my bike tho
>>530203870I thought I heard the devs mention they were going to add large raid instances in the DD at some point which would greatly expand on PvE content so players have more of a reason to leave hagga basin.
>>530205072Quicksand is scary, almost got me a few times too
>>530205000Thralls made them fun to engage with imo, and exploration in general as well. In a pokemon kind of way, what thrall might we find in this area, ya know? Plus the fact that thralls didn't drain legendary gear durability, which further boosted how good bosses were.
Dune really needs some kind of base defense mechanic, like the purge. I liked building up an army of thralls to defend my base. Dune bases just feel pointless by comparison. I finally got around to starting my mega base but gave up before I started expanding because whats the point? I only lose out on money that much quicker due to taxes and as a solo I simply do not need massive space. I'm seriously tempted to just downgrade to a basic fief tax haven.
>>530205072if that happens again and your bike inventory is empty, you can save it with the backup tool
>>530205873>Thralls made them fun to engage with imoNot really.
Its basically "boss is 10k hp and hits for 100 and thrall is 4k hp and hits for 400" at this point.
Just two sponges hitting each other for 10 minutes.
>>530205325Yeah, andl I noticed after looking at the map more closely that the indicator of quicksand is a bit different so I'll be a lot more careful now
>>530205950There was an inventory module on it stuffed with carbon so that wasn't possible, and to be honest I was more concerned with getting eaten than my crappy level 1 bike that was already falling apart
>>530205192I don't see how that helps the game honestly.
I don't think these devs realize that the carrot they're dangling in front of players is not only ephemereal but the players recognize it is, too.
Sword+n+1 doesn't keep the game interesting long term, it's dynamic replayability and challenge that does.
The duping issue thankfully exposes how stupid it was of them to think they could design a game based on replaying to get a better weapon rather than replaying because the core game elements are fun to engage with.
>>530160023>Heavy armor>Spam dodging when no slow blades are trying to pierceIf nothing else changed that's the only way to survive while letting your small staminia pool regen, I think you spent like 80? just running off at the end leaving you open to be finished off. You're only 100/100 stam and hp, not the proobable 140/140 that they are spec'd into and unforunatly you didn't land any parries.
I'm sure you can learn alot from this one experience, you even got to PvP on foot lol.
>>530205325I really don't like quicksand, very binary, uninteractive, and stupid mechanic. They abandoned its existence pretty quickly past the starter area, thankfully.
Even as easy as it is to avoid, avoiding them is itself simply annoying. They add nothing interesting to exploration due to their binary nature and ease of avoidance. They should be less overtly dangerous (not simply hit it = fuck you) and harder to avoid. For example, only dying to that shit if you get stuck 30m inside it, not literally on the edge. With more time to do something about getting stuck (like maybe calling a friend over with a carrier thopter)
Then put them in the occasional ditch between sand dunes and you've got a mechanic where it's relatively easy to avoid them (stick to the top of dunes) and also easy to get out of/survive them unless you do something retarded like catapult off the top of a dune into the middle of one - and even then, you have avenues of escape and time to get help crying in chat or something (which itself increases player interaction and is good for the game).
What they've actually done is just retarded. Brainlet jeet level of game design.
What's the easiest bulk resource to sell below t6?
>>530209709refined aluminum because it sucks to harvest if you don't live near it and the refinement process takes an entire evening for any decent haul of it
lower-tier ores are mostly pointless to try and sell because they're so easy to acquire by the time a player is conscious of the market existing
>>530209709Depends on your server, check the market for duralu
>>530172060I've played ATLAS at launch at first in a small group then a mega guild.
I literally fought Chinese cheaters, beating them in the first week as melee, naked and spec'd into combat while they had plate, aimbotting recoilless rifles, pistols and more numbers with lag and duped ships. I STILL beat them, almost every attempt they tried to destroy our base I wrecked them with melee combos and constant target swapping as they whiffed their shit weapons and guns at me.
Know what happened next? They copied me. I showed them how to use the melee fighting build that was wrecking them for days until they had people change their own builds to try beat me with my own build.
There was no real tutorial TikTok/Shorts for them to copy at the time because it was being dumped on and made fun of for content by streamers as they weren't bribed.
All that to say, there is no chance for innovation in this game. YouTubers/Streamers trying to make content will define the experience people will have when running into other players most of the time.
Like the person above that shared their first PvP fight, did he use heavy armour because that one video told everyone that its better to use heavy armor because you're being shot at while you try use your blades, gimping your dash stamina and blade defense bonuses from light armor as he got poked to death?
'DD isn't so bad do not be a pussy video' then fly into their guild region 20 to 1 so they can make a dime off your shit being eaten by a worm.
I want to experiment but it doesn't matter because have to be in a shitty chopper spamming rockets, a la running around with a tamed animal with a canon on its back carrage in Atlas.
Cheating and copying is Chinese/Indian culture and Funcom has to clean up after them because Tencent is their owner and didn't develop an alternative raid or activity that doesn't involve pushing other people into the piss sand.
Dev resources are now put into safety locks against the Chinese but ban US/EU.
>>530211396funcom being a tencent lapdog sheds a lot of clarity on why this game is the way that it is, actually
wow
yeah alright fuck any hope for the future of this title
>cheeeating is sooooo chinese guys
t. the thread that's been bragging and slurping up dupes and exploits
>>530213432there hasn't been a single anon boasting about stealing people's vehicles and hacking entire bases
perhaps the others were right when they insisted you need to play in traffic, anon
>>530181302nta, but how might one use suspensor blast right?
>>530214024apparently only the chinese abuse suspensor blast, sorry. someone forgot to tell the entire DD. luckily we have a guy posting week old screencaps from youtube shorts to update us on what's really happening in-game.
>mentally ill contrarian behaving like a passive-aggressive woman
love to see it
>>530214685>>530196060i accept your concession of defeat.
i have an immunity dog saved to my pc that says bald grifters can't influence my reality, try again pussy
>>530214571Man put on a fucking trip already, you're actually more toxic than the people you keep whining about.
>>530216037it'll be some new minority spreading your butthole in a PvP game next hour. just go for it. you told your atlas LARP. the chinese were firing mortars in the mountains halfway across the map and spawning ghost ships and hacking vault codes and infinite weight sinking ships and killing players in pve areas with building hammers. i'm glad you could LARP another game, probably watched moonmoon play. and the biggest hackers of all in ark/atlas were the developers, everyone knows this. if you played.
>>530214024Well, look at what it does: Slows people down, and (doubles their dash costs?)
It's more of an offensive, rather than defensive weapon. You get up in someone's face, blast them (it's fast enough they will almost never dash out of it) and now you've got them slowed down for your own attacks. If it also doubles their dash stamina cost then they're in an even worse situation for your followup attacks.
If you're going to use it defensively, then suspensor blast when surrounded and shigaware out to safety I guess.
The suspensor blast feels like it'll be less effective once people adapt and stop panicking from it. The correct response to the blast is to parry, instead of panic and dash out. For that reason it'll probably end up less useful as people gain experience and PVP meta evolves. More of something that works against noobs only.
>pedantic retard is a moonmoon viewer
holy shit lmao
>state of the game is so bad the thread devolves into this cringey shit
I'm half tempted to cry samefag, but I honestly don't think it is.
>>530216942>>530214024no, you hold suspensor blast and have infinite poise, can't be stopped or stunned or rocketed and when it ends it goes on a 2s cooldown and you press it again and stay unstunned, everyone in DD uses it, it's essential for surviving rocket spam. bro gave a tutorial on pve suspensor blast, hasn't even sniffed a spicefield it makes him crap his diapers so bad.
>>530173296Holy based. I bow to Joel's vision!
>>530213432Don't goad people into spamming and shitting the thread up with Chinese ruining everything.
>>530211396>Cheating and copying is Chinese/IndianIt's really how hard to overstate how chinese will suck the fun out of these kind of games. The average megaguilld of westerners might have a minimum of mercy on you but the chinese will just go fucking all out from day one.
Funcom should release a mobile app to check the status of the items I'm trying to sell
>>530223269another anon said it best with something along the lines of chinese culturally being led to believe in the integrity of only the results and never the process - the way they defeat you doesn't matter so long as you are the one who loses, they have no national sense of shame when it comes to fraudulence
i thought that was pretty neat
>asian servers almost dead population-wise compared to NA/EU
So wait, not only do the Chinese only play these games to be menaces, but they don't even play in their own region?
>>530225073It's sleeping time in Asia
I find it weird that everyone is all 'find the fremen' like they totally disappeared when in the books/movies it's basically an open secret that tens of millions of them live in the supposed 'uninhabitable' southern arrakis, it took the atriedes like one week on-planet to realize this, paul figured it out by himself even quicker, every guild navigator knows this and wink wink nudge nudge whenever they lie to the harkonnens or emperor that sattelite surveillance is 'impossible' down there. It's like the worst kept secret ever
>>530226416planetwide their population is probably less than 10 million
and that's before the sardaukar went around genociding every sietch they could find, which is what has happened in this alt history of the setting
>>530223938>chinese culturally being led to believe in the integrity of only the results and never the process - the way they defeat you doesn't matter so long as you are the one who loses,its why gatchas are a thing in asia, as well as pay to win. They dont believe in gettting things through merit or effort, only having the thing matters, so they have no problem burning money for something.
>>530226416Do you know how few people 10 million is for a fucking planet? That's the equivalent of the population of fucking Togo, which is about 50 square kilometres tiny. 10 million for the native population of a planet is pretty much extinct.
>>530226717>the sardaukar went around genociding every sietch they could find, which is what has happened in this alt history of the settinglol
to which the ingame dialogue states "they killed thousands", meaning they effectively re-treaded the books in making the emperor seem like an out-of-touch retard celebrating a victory over decimals of a total population
either it's a mishandling by the writers of this game or a deliberate nod to the true population remaining in the millions - it's hard to tell with funcom incompetence. (funcompetence?)
>>530227308it's just how arrakis is described, sietches number most likely ~15k people for the big ones the way they're described in the books, definitely smaller than 100k. The planet itself just doesn't support a lot of people in general and the source material doesn't do a good job conveying there's any more than hundreds of thousands / low millions of fremen.
It's kind of weird juxtaposed against the fremen somehow killing 60 billion people in Paul's timeline
>>530227320this. When the game says they wiped out the Fremen, they mean they did the same thing that Feyd did in Dunc 2, slaughtered a bunch in the north thinking that was it. Even REDACTED thinks they are in the south.
>>530228091Is it, though? 5 million fighters trained from childhood and driven by fanaticism, equipped with space tech weaponry, led by a guy who can literally see the future... they should be unstoppable.
>>530223082shut up dumb faggot ass retard, they do that shit themselves, they're euro spergs, all they do is bring up race.
>>530228091>>53022830260bln / 5mln = 12,000 kills per person, but it's not like they did all of that with chrysknives, most of those deaths are probably from war-triggered devastation and deprivation like in most conflicts
AFAIK messiah also mentions that Paul's Jihad glassed 90 planets leaving them totally uninhabitable, and conquered like 500 more. Those numbers are easily reachable if they're starsector saturation bombing
>>530228302Yes it is, because 5 million does not beat even 1 billion let along the hundreds of billions that would be required for a 60 billion death toll.
I don't think you understand how numerical advantages actually work, nor what 1 billion vs 1 million actually means.
>>530228663The only way you can get a 60 billion death toll out of the fremen is if the fremen are not actually the ones doing all the fighting. The only thing that makes sense is some kind of alliance cascade between houses calling each other to arms and then escalating to full scale nuclear war within the entire landsraad and the fremen are more of a catalyst or a sideshow and simply swoop in at the end to claim the throne rather than being a military force that can actually kill like this.
Paul's prescience can help but he can't be prescient everywhere all at once for a million soldiers against billions of enemies to turn the tide of every small conflict or squad level action.
>>530228696what the fuck are you even talking about anymore anon
>number does not beat numberwhy not?
>number bigger.but space tech weaponry and lore and--
>no. number bigger.????
>>530228663In all real wars, a ratio of 3:1 basically guarantees victory for the numerically superior force.
Even with prescience you could maybe stretch that an order of magnitude, being generous 2 orders of magnitude, but you're suggesting upwards of 3-4 orders of magnitude and that just isn't happening. No human force in history can manage something like that.
I 'member that funny little exchange between Paul and Stilgar or whoever after his Jihad going something like
>I'm studying my Kwisatz Haderach memories for this guy named 'Hitler', he killed 6 million
>Whoa, 6 million, really Mau'Dib? He must've been very skilled and had advanced weaponry to get that many personal kills
>No, he gave orders to his people to kill 6 million
>Oh, that's it? That's not very impressive, I've killed much more than that in that case
>>530229164https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift
"Just over 150 British and colonial troops defended the station against attacks by 3,000 to 4,000 Zulu warriors. "
>3-4 orders of magnitude and that just isn't happening. No human force in history can manage something like that.there's a handful of other cases like this where a small unit repelled thousands of lesser forces in more modern times, and hundreds of historical tellings from pre-blackpowder society where funny shit like the roman phalanx could cockblock an entire legion
>>530228696I don't think you understand how war works. It's not like they lined up and fought 5 million vs 100 billion. The overall death toll is racked up over time, with the Fremen essentially steamrolling every single enemy due to their superior training, fanaticism, disregard for rules and prescient leadership.
>>530229164>>53022897360 billion isn't combatants, I'll bet it's 99.9+% civilians. Under ritualistic kanly combat in the setting it seems like totalenkrieg is pretty alien, which is why Fremen society and Paul's Jihad could be effective.
I mean, In the climactic showdown in the novels and DUNC 2 the Padishah emperor brings to bear the largest concentration ever of Sardaukar legions of... 300,000 total soldiers. Kind of a pittance for a galaxy-spanning emperor-of-emperors, don't you think?
Besides which, Paul always had the spacer's guild by the balls with spice/Arrakis control. He could always bring his full forces to bear, attack from orbit, etc.
The numbers make sense when you look at them
>check out dune streams
>literal girls going into the deep desert with no fear gathering in scout thopters
>biological women
>unafraid, scanning the desert, not a care in the world
Why did you let little girls beat you to the deep desert?
>>530229720Stop trying, faggot. You're not riling up anyone here. Everyone who cares already has their T6 gear, and your 'PvE crybaby' boogeyman is a fucking strawman you really really want to exist. People are discussing Dune lore while you are trying to stir up more fake PvP outrage. Go fuck yourself and maybe post on reddit how you beat up PvE by ambushing them in shipwrecks or something. Pathetic fucker
>>530230031Can you give us the lore with more of your PvE skill usage tutorials?
>>530228091>t's kind of weird juxtaposed against the fremen somehow killing 60 billion people in Paul's timelineDuke leto says the reason he's going to arrakis is because the fremen are more elite than the sadauker if he can get them to join him.
>>530230341This. If memory serves, the Atreides forces were very well-trained, and held up surprisingly long against the Sardaukar. The Fremen were the only force who could stand up against the Sardaukar in even numbers, which was unheard of, and they then received additional training from Paul and Duncan. It's a bit Warhammer-esque, but the Sardaukar are essentially the baddest motherfuckers out there and still get bested by the Fremen, which makes them essentially unbeatable.
>>530229624no amount of fanatacism or training gives you 12k to 1 kill ratios buddy, you live in a delusional capeshit fantasy world if you think that's how war works.
>>530229509these are single battles, not wars, and are not 3-4 order of magnitude differences either, which would be 150 vs 150,000 to 150 vs 1,500,000
>>530229696What the fremen end up doing would be breaking the rules of kanly
altogether I think herbert kind of wrote himself into a bit of a corner with getting paul to take over the known universe, because the logistics of it don't add up with the existing fremen population, and rather than write a book about it to explain how that shit is possible, he just skipped over it and said "it happened" and the reader is left up to imagining how that could be possible
again I really think the only way this works is some kind of internal subversion/political play in the landsraad that gets out of control WW1 style and the fremen actually play a much smaller part in the deathtoll, more as opportunists and catalyst for the conflict rather than something like fremen vs the entire universe.
>>530229696>>530228973I haven't read the books and it seems like none of you have either. I doubt the books say 'a few million fremen killed 60 billion'
>>530230698Paul's Jihad broke Kanly on day one, that's sort of the point.
Kanly, the Faufreluches feudal system, the Landsraad, the Emperorship, all of that represented stagnation and a civilizational evolutionary dead end, which is the reason why Paul saw the need for his Jihad in the first place (and why Leto then needed to continue with the Golden Path). He was playing under a different ruleset with an entire desert ISIS takfiri culture bred and primed for total war, and the numbers show that.
The one thing he didn't do is break the Great Convention on atomics, since he couldn't afford the Great Houses doing a last ditch effort to glass Arrakis in retaliation, but everything else was fair game. And besides, being prescient, he can forsee all the plays and counterplays and escalation.
>>530230698What's so hard to understand about technology being the primary killer? Nobody is envisioning 'capeshit' type combat here to rack up kills, it's literally dropping space tech tier bombs leaving entire planets uninhabitable.
>>530230984This, it's not like the books implied a bunch of Fremen went planet to planet and stabbed billions of enemy combatants.
>>530231391>This, it's not like the books implied a bunch of Fremen went planet to planet and stabbed billions of enemy combatants.Yeah exactly, it would have been nukes, starvation, civil war, collateral damage, collapse of spice lanes (meaning no food could move between planets), ect.
So what's the likely course of the in-game story in the updates? We're going to find Stilgar but then what? Secure the Fremen's allegiance towards your faction? The whole find the sleeper thing was a schizo plant by your makers so now that we've become 'self-aware' or whatever what's the motivation to keep looking for them?
>>530231749>So what's the likely course of the in-game story in the updates?Apparently the third faction is smugglers who want the war of assassins to continue because the chaos lets them profit. Fremen are obviously not dead, and just hid down south so probably we will follow in their steps and be able to learn more from them like worm riding and sand walking.
But beyond that I think most of the story points will just be more nothings taking place in the war between houses which I find the least interesting because its just a story of stalemate.
The sleeper is your original life that the ghola was made from, 'awakening the sleeper' is awakening your death-memories. It's so obvious and telegraphed desu
The south desert map might actually be interesting if there was some 'atmospheric coriolis storm' effect thing that nixed all 'thopters and forced old school ground traversal and worm avoidance again
>>530230984the books directly state the largest sietches were something like 5000 families, I can't recall the exact wording of it. It more or less puts a hard ceiling under 100k for a sietch though. The number of sietches and total population is never explicitly stated, but everything about the planet suggests millions, probably less than tens of millions, and largely around the north pole. Billions is very unlikely, but even if you assume 1 billion, that's not enough.
Dune: Messiah -
Paul glanced at the reels in Korbaโs hands. Korba stood with them as though he wished he could drop them and flee. โStatistics: at a conservative estimate, Iโve killed sixty-one billion, sterilized ninety planets, completely demoralized five hundred others. Iโve wiped out the followers of forty religions which had existed sinceโโ
โUnbelievers!โ Korba protested. โUnbelievers all!โ
โNo,โ Paul said. โBelievers.โ
โMy Liege makes a joke,โ Korba said, voice trembling. โThe Jihad has brought ten thousand worlds into the shining light ofโโ
โInto the darkness,โ Paul said. โWeโll be a hundred generations recovering from Muadโdibโs Jihad. I find it hard to imagine that anyone will ever surpass this.โ A barking laugh erupted from his throat.
โWhat amuses Muadโdib?โ Stilgar asked.
โI am not amused. I merely had a sudden vision of the Emperor Hitler saying something similar. No doubt he did.โ
โNo other ruler ever had your powers,โ Korba argued. โWho would dare challenge you? Your legions control the known universe and all theโโ
โThe legions control,โ Paul said. โI wonder if they know this?โ
>>530232142Adding in sandwalking and making vehicles less viable in a different region would be cool yeah. I want reasons to pull my tent out more often.
>be Fremen
>live on Arrakis, the harshest desert planet
>endure sandstorms, scorpions, no water
>train in Weirding Way & pranaโbindu martial arts
>become elite warriors beyond Sardaukar
>get led by Paul MuadโDib, messiah dude with prescience
>Paul controls spice > controls Spacing Guild > chokes off enemy travel
>use Guild ships to deploy thousands planetโwide
>nuclear/kinetic orbital strikes level infrastructure & sterilize worlds
>no big armies needed
>swords & knives rule bc shields + lasguns = nuclear boom
>guerrilla blade fighters win
>have Fedaykin death-commandos, fanatical and loyal
unleash jihad
People already had this conversation 20 years ago on SA.
>>530232501Sandwalking? Thumpers? What's that?
>dindu sprint + shigawire spiderman + suspensorheh, nothing personel... shai-hulud.. guess i'm too fast for you even on foot ;)
>>530232667Thumpers are garbage the way they work right now. All they do is make the worm appear faster, it doesn't distract for shit
How do I go about collecting 500 of each enemy faction? I'd like to prioritize high value locations with the best possible look for each, and I'll try and rotate through factions so I don't go insane before hitting the numbers.
DUNC
md5: 3662269805e6cf7c232796040c8aaab6
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>>530223938There was someone just a few threads ago defending them saying it's stupid to have any sense of working toward something to accomplish and only the result matters.
In that line of thought it makes sense why they never invent anything and just wait for tutorial Americans and Nordic/Germanic nations to create and innovate everything first just to copy.
Reminds me of that Elon Musk meets China's richest man or something? "Don't worry about jobs, you will have jobs. I'm not worried about AI, for me I call it Alibaba Intelligence."
>>530232158Ok? You're trying to say each person who died was stabbed, that isn't how it worked.
Just built my carrier 'thopter and sandcrawler and my 'build all vehicles' achievement did not pop up. Am I missing something? Buggy, Sandbike, and the scout/assault 'thopters are done too.
>>530234529Quit, restart, load the game up, ect. My achievements usually load the next time I play.
>PvP video
>Its another guild/group stomping some solo/smaller group
>Every single comment is calling them out as being cowards
I don't think I've ever seen gaming heal so much
>>530233751No, I've stated pretty explicitly and multiple times now that the only way this war could have worked is if the fremen DIDN'T go around each stabbing 12k people each directly (or even indirectly), that a war of this scale would have necessitated non-fremen to be involved somehow because the population of arrakis simply doesn't support the creation of any kind of fighting force that could kill 61 billion and conquer 10k planets while numbering in the hundreds of thousands to low millions (if you really stretch things and are generous to fremen pop)
the only way it works is if the fremen are not actually doing all the fighting but are only an element the violence that is happening.
>>530234949Yes, thats what everyone is saying. Thanks for agreeing I guess.
>>530234949You know the atreides army didn't pop out of existence because paul hung out with the fremen for a couple of years, right?
>>530234949It's not low millions, it's low tens of millions, Stilgar himself says 10 million in the first book.
And Paul definitely recruited more. The Fremen/Fedaykin were his cor, fanatical followers, but the Mau'Dib Cult grew to something much more universal (much like the Imperial cult of 40k). Not to mention all the disaffected pyons or house minor joining for pure opportunistic / overthrow the current thing purposes
you guys ready to haul your full mk6 bases all the way from E row to Hagga?
>>530235931I've done it for three weeks now and I'm pretty done with it desu. I knew this would become an issue with the whole weekly reset thing but people claimed it was necessary for the DD to function.
>>530235931i can't fucking do it anymore
whats out there can be destroyed
>>530235931Why the fuck would anyone engage with that sort of "content". It sounds insanely tedious and boring. If it was a monthly thing maybe, but even then what is the POINT of any of this T6 content? It just doesn't make any sense at all, they could have at least made it so the first few rows had T6 mats but only required T5 gear, then beyond those rows all T6 mats were protected by T6 enemies which you needed T6 to deal with. Now you have a way to bridge T5 to T6 and a reason to have T6, to get larger quantities of T6 and speed up production and grinding.
>>530235619>>530235698Well I'm glad to see we're finally moving away from "fremen could do it by themselves"
>>530235262No, it really isn't what everyone is saying. People in fact are now arguing that fremen + atreides could pull it off as we now move the goalposts slightly. I simply do not think so. Not even if the atreides had their own billion soldiers to pull from, and thus its not really a fremen jihad anymore, but an atreides "jihad", and which is just not very likely considering they could barely beat the harkonnen and this would be the harkonnen + emperor + entire rest of the landsraad + entire rest of the universe vs just Paul, fremen and atreides, this scale of conflict that involves conquering over 10k planets, is going to have required a significant investment on the part of tens of billions at minimum, if not hundreds of billions, and dozens to hundreds of planets.
It simply doesn't track nor make sense for the fremen to play any significant role here on the part of actual violence. Whatever happened had to have involved significant amounts of manpower BESIDES the fremen and house atreides. Whether everyone was directly aligning with Paul or simply some kind of all out war between various factions, or religious pograms that didn't even directly involve house militaries - who knows, but its still a numbers game, and Arrakis and Atreides just don't have the numbers.
>>530237262nightmares of conan sandstone shitboxes and single foundation everywhere has brought forth this system, guilds that quit three weeks ago would finally be powering down now, assuming every member left
>>530237284>No, it really isn't what everyone is saying.It isn't what you want people to say because then you can't rage mindlessly at nothing.
Its a book anon calm down.
>>530237508what does the dog even do
>>530237760auto-pickup and auto-dismantle by default, old hagios sheepdog was given a heal, the retriever periodically gives ammo
Are there npc vendors in the deep desert?
>>530237986No just the flight girl
>>530237854those sound useful but i really don't want the visual pollution of having a fucking labrador or whatever running around me as i'm being shot
maybe i don't reinstall
>>530234690Already tried that, same happened with the 'craft a lasgun' achievement, did not get that to pop. My theory for that one is that Funcom did not program the plastanium tier one to count for it. Thanks for the help thougheverbeit.
>>530239578Steam achievements just seem fucked, I dunno why. I first went to the DD like 2 weeks ago and I still don't have the achievement. I don't really care so I haven't looked at what else I might be missing.
>battlepasses come about just like in Conan for cosmetics and shit
>one is called The Western Woods
>its House Ordos stuff
checkmate purists
How many shots with The Ancient Way does it take to down a scout thopter? I cant find anything online about how the damage interaction works with thopter armor values. Ancient Way says it does 913 damage, and a Mk 4 thopter cockpit is 1500 armor, so is that just 2 shots? Or is there damage reduction somewhere in there
hmhm
md5: 1abb37b144aaac98815f74988bfe29c5
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>first descendent for me - 700 hours including beta, $150 spent
>one human for me - 660 hours, $70 spent
then finally
>dune awakeningโข, joel's classic mmo inspired masterpiece. 6 years of development, one of the most famous science fiction settings of all time
>$100 aud
>100 hours
they didn't make the game
>>530242907>audyou are just another fuckin Joel
>>530244471?
I assumed he was norwegian, like most of funcom?
>>530244471if you're the resident half sane nigger could you not bother replying to me
>>530244741nope Australian like that other retard
>>530242046house ordos is a better addition to dune than anything frank herbert's kid has shat out, so please, be my guest
>the game is so good that we have nothing to talk about but thread enemies
alive game
You'll know the game/thread is dead once the main topic is the "ERP is the real endgame". Trust me on this, I've lived through too many generals
>>530246412can't even ERP in this shitbox game because funcom completely stripped it of any immersive tools
>>530246412lol while absolutely true, i don't see this game having an erp community
>>530246412>Game only has androgynous "body types">Implying it will ever have an erp community despite thisYeah nah, this game is doomed.
>log in
>Please find a safe location to log out. The server will be restarted in: 34s
Well alrighty then.
>>530244741Just because they're a Norwegian company doesn't mean they can't have employees from other countries.
>>530248165Obviously, but its still a safe bet regardless. Would you also call me out for thinking the average genshin impact dev is chinese?
>>530247907yea you're right, traditionally degens never mod games to change body types
>>530248556You've got a point, but Joel is not a Norwegian name.
>source: am Norwegian
>>530247907>removed tits and dicks from conan Failed game, failed series
hmmmmmmmmm after a month you'd think they'd add something with the hundred million dollars they made or whatever
>>530251330The fact it took them 6 years to produce what this game is, in a pre-made game engine that does all the really hard shit for them, tells me nobody on the dev team really cares about the game or takes anything they're doing seriously. The sheer amount of dead weight on the team must be staggering.
Just look at the character names when people log out - boilerplate UE blueprints. They are literally playing with pic related instead of doing actual programming in an IDE because they don't know how. This is what unreal engine is actually doing to the industry. Turning game making into some toddler shit for jeets and retards because they can't wrap their heads around anything more complex than that so we've got stuff meant for rapid prototyping going direct to fucking production. How much of the game is made like this? Quite a fucking lot I'd bet. All these dupe problems? I bet they're using blueprints for everything, including vehicles, and don't know how to modify the interactions between vehicles and the boilerplate network code because it's all opaque to them. Nobody actually wrote code, they're just connecting blueprint nodes together until something works. They probably don't even know how to convert shit to C++ to actually debug and fix anything considering network performance has actually gotten worse ever since they started trying to solve the duping issues.
I bet theres a lone junior white dude desperately trying to learn/figure out how to do any of this shit to unfuck the game while everyone else is throwing up their hands going "saaar we can't fix it saaar".
>>530256532>boilerplate UE blueprintsoh holy shit
>>530256532Same shit Bethesda did with Starfield is just offload most of the work to India and SEA in general. A lot of their team leads and vets quit because they couldnl't wrangle the pajeets to do their jobs and main studio had to keep redoing their work from the imported contract work.
That's all these big studios are nowadays is club members keeping eachother employed until they're all axed and their rug is pulled under them as the work keeps going to China because even if they do know how to do their jobs and have the experience, they don't offer a tax deductable credit like a pajeet does with an H1B ticket.
Doesn't matter if John had been MVP carrying the team for years, Rakesh, Sanjay and Patel are gonna take his workload and they can just run their tasks through it because John was dumb enough to make things so streamlined and easy to do he can be replaced by the propriety tools and workflow he helped produce or in this case, UE5 being the generalised tool that college kids are taught.
>>530246529>funcom completely stripped it of any immersive toolsYou can say the same about every aspect of the game.
Everything is extremely barebones.
>>530258546did UE5 actually kill gaming?
there has been 10 pump and dumps on it that i've played in a mere 2 years and all of them seemed to barely function
>>530256532I genuinely hope to god they are not actually using blueprints in production. Holy fuck their versioning has got to be an absolute clusterfuck
>>530232006The sleeper being us is obvious because when they put out an update they say "Hello Sleepers!". They spoiled their own plot point with patch notes.
How does the skill respec reset in DD work, again? You have to leave through a different zone than the one you entered through?
>riding in buggy with friend
>shooting up camps and outposts, draining the corpses of blood and throwing them in the trunk
>gholas just wanna have fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRr5EasAq84
>>530259908that's how it worked, I don't believe it works any longer
>>530261728Dang. The 48 hour respec limit is such bullshit though.
>>530256532If they built the game around blueprints it's done and over. Whole project is cooked.
Kind of ruined my night because I had this sort of hope that they would actually fix problems with the game and get somewhere with it, but this indicates they have no foresight at all and are accruing the kind of tech debt that will make the game impossible to maintain after a year, especially with the kind of turnover this industry tends to have now.
It's no wonder they can only manage a few dozen players per server shard. If they refactored the game so it didn't use blueprints virtually every facet of it would be running better. Genuinely the most amateur shit I've seen this year by "industry veterans". This is timmy's first unreal project levels of amateur. And by a "veteran studio" with literal decades in the industry and millions invested into this game. Genuinely unbelievable.
>>530259645It's not UE that's the problem, it's just a tool. The business culture and people running everything into the ground to save a penny are the problem.
When are they going to fix the issue with people building bases on top of platinum nodes in pve zone
>>530180251I was an airnigger destroyer as soon as I could get a MAX suit with the double AA guns. I'd just sit around and blast them out of the sky constantly
damn, bro shidded 6 paragraphs over UE5 and made it a story about the white man saving a group of minorities. he sees them everywhere. these doomtranny fantasies are wild.
>>530263898i'm surprised you want to be liked so bad when you play this game like a total cunt anyway jeet
>>530249114The nuance here is that they usually change the body type to be something that is actually attractive. As it is they simply made a sexless Conan Exiles.
>those cute little abortive yelps female enemies do when you kill them
instantboner.jpeg
damn i wish there were thralls and sex slavery mods in this game
SERVERS DOWN THIS IS BULLSHIT
>>530262098I wouldn't despair just yet, they seem quick to act on game balance and adjusting core stuff like the DD PvEvP regions and scout thopter balancing. We can only hope they still have a coding savant that they didn't need to convert into a tranny to keep their job and carry the software side of things and just needs some time to pivot from whatever is not working.
>scour the PvE sections of the DD
>find ONE titanium node
>it's covered with a nine-block shitshack with a nice big pentashield so you can see what you're being denied
There's no way the PvE changes to the DD aren't some kind of "punishment" from Joel for RUINING HIS VISION or some shit. Reducing ore spawns by 80% in the PvE sections, making them respawn on a 45-minute timer and not giving them no-build zones or a simple "subfief nearby? spawn somewhere else" logic, it just feels like it's hand crafted to make PvEers suffer.
>>530270765oh fatty is not a very nice person, there is no question about it
>>530019276>mentions a thing that cant happen as part of their point>pedanticyawn
>>530270765Well at least they responded to the backlash quickly. Yes it's a bandaid attempt to fix it but probably all they could do short notice.
I just hope they're working on more permanent solutions
how many duperanons will log in after this patch to find themselves b&, do you think
>>530274401like, five
Just the ones bragging about it openly because the anticheat isn't doing shit
Newfag here. How do these pvp wrecks work? Is it just your Sietch (so like, 10-20 players across the entire fucking map), or is it like the deep desert where it's all sietches of the server?
I've visited the same wreck like 5 times now and sometimes the NPCs are dead but I never see any players.
>>530234690>>530239578>>530241619I got an achievement for climbing up some high as fuck mountain when I was nowhere near it like 3 hours later.
Shit's fucked but honestly it's steam achievements so who cares.
>>530256532>This is what unreal engine is actually doing to the industry. Turning game making into some toddler shit for jeets and retards because they can't wrap their heads around anything more complex than thatGonna play devils advocate here and say that the reason people are doing this is because it's quicker, especially for new recruits or less experienced programmers. Sure blueprint is less efficient, and doesn't require the same level of understanding as writing the code in C++, but if it takes 2-3x the time to do the same thing in C++ you'd be complaining about that too. AI is going to further change the coding landscape so get ready for coders that can't do any real coding at all in the future.
Any Euro Duners looking for a new recruit? I am getting to endgame and don't know if I will be able to do Landsraad fuckery as a solo
https://duneawakening.com/news/dune-awakening-1-1-15-0-patch-notes/
>Tier 6 resources can now be collected across wider areas in the PvE part of the Deep Desert.>Added a chance of a different selection of Uniques drop in PvE loot in Deep Desert.>We added an element of randomization to the respawn timer of unique loot containers in the Deep Desert."""PvP"""sissies just keep losing
>>530274706Just your sietch, so you'll probably never encounter a player let alone one actually looking to PvP in Hagga. The only time you really run into conflict are fags camping the final loot chests of dungeons in the PvP regions of Deep Desert
>>530275976unironically based
those are great changes
>>530274706In your Sietch its local only, so that shipwreck is always flagged on for PvP in your web zone.
Someone else probably has been there very recently or may have been hiding.
There are random attacks from the opposing faction so NPCs could be fighting eachother there too.
>More DD balance notes>Less of an iron grip on nodes and resourcesDevs are cooking, I'm betting the game is going to be carried by smaller guilds of friends by several or even a dozen and not so much the streamer mobs later.
>>530275975I forgot how big the badonkers can get in Conan
>>530276246That's not even max size, they can get ridiculous even with vanilla proportions.
>>530275976Changed Landsraad tasks to allow for Kill and Delivery Contribution to happen after the task has been completed but awarding only personal contribution. (i.e., which faction won and how many guild votes were awarded are unaffected by contributions made after the task was completed by one faction)..
i will unironically stop bitching and play again now
>>530263473burstermax can't kill airniggers only drive them away
You need literally like 6-8 guys in bursters to have a chance of actually killing an ESF
The best anti air weapon is an A2A ESF, after that it's probably those 7 shot tracking rockets TR have, and then AP cannons from tanks and then other G2A launchers. Way down at the bottom of the list would be skyguards and burstermaxes, only marginally more effective than people shooting with their rifles.
I mean I haven't played planetside in like 3-4 years now, but that's what it was like when I stopped
>>530276764i started playing it again an hour ago after a long break, they merged more servers, you can still have fun with it
>>530275976>Changed Landsraad tasks to allow for Kill and Delivery Contribution to happen after the task has been completed but awarding only personal contribution.FINALLY
>>530276764Yeah that was my first thought too, you could get crazy points on it but generally you weren't scoring kills.
>>530275976>you'll probably never encounter a player let alone one actually looking to PvP in Hagga.Well actually I was approaching a wreck and heard an ornithopter landing. The asshole started sniping at me immediately so I pulled out my bike and fucked off.
What do you even get from killing someone at a wreck? The chest is instanced anyway, no?
>>530275363blueprints are fast to do, but they're bad for performance (especially for the server), they get complicated and messy fast, and you can't do proper versioning with them so people end up overwriting changes other people make, which kills productivity of your dev team. The versioning problems alone are why you shouldn't use blueprints in production. It is purely for testing out and sketching ideas, it is not for building games out of, even if other retards keep doing it that way.
If this studio is using blueprints for spawning characters they are almost definitely using them everywhere else and that would go a very long way towards explaining all the problems they're having with performance, network code, dupes, and bugs, and probably also explains why sietches max out at 60 players. I would bet the deep desert maxes out at ~540 simultaneous pop likewise (60x9).
Genuinely they might be able to 1.5-2x their simultaneous pop numbers per server if they stop spawning everything with blueprints. The overhead of doing that on the server's gotta be insane.
Mind boggling stuff, this is not a serious studio run by guys who know what they're doing if they really did throw the whole game together using blueprints. That is legit insane for a studio with 20 years experience making MMO's.
>>530278212chest isn't instanced, even if you're in a party with someone you get 1 shot at the chest between all of you at the PVP wrecks, it's not like the PVE labs where everyone gets loot.
>>530278212No PvP area chests are shared loot, and you drop anything you picked up inside
>>530278473>>530278696oh I guess that kinda made sense then why he bullied me away
still it feels like a very shitty pvp system
>>530279209>still it feels like a very shitty pvp systemNew to Funcom games?
>>530279361yes
shouldn't expect much out of the deep desert pvp I take it
>>530279575Do you enjoy being solo and 6-10 flying vehicles suddenly popping into view from a ludicrously small draw distance and bombarding you with rockets before you even have a time to react, then seeing them land next to your wrecked vehicle and plant a thumper to attract a worm to completely destroy it without even looting it first? Then you'll enjoy DD.
>>530279575deep desert pvp basically doesn't exist
it amounts to
>thopter squad of 10+ ganking you with rockets before you can react to them>3-4 guys camping in PVP wrecks ganking solos who wander into themThere's not much else going on
>>530279575it was real bad but now you can mercifully ignore their fumbled, actually unfathomably shitty attempt at forcing you to do it
(You) may wanna check your DD base right NOW, FUNcom apparently spawned some PvP control points at new islands so niggas are getting raided.
They also redid resource nodes so all the titanium and stravidium on my island is gone
My only PvP in this game was at a shipwreck in Hagga where the guy couldn't figure out how to cutter open a door so I did it and then he ran in and took the loot. I attacked him and felt bad as thought loot was per person and my chest just hadnt reset but apparently no he did straight up steal from me and I regret not killing him and leaving.
>>530280454I accidentally riddled some guy I thought was an NPC
So 2 threads ago there was someone saying The Spice Rats are on Solaria Tabr. Are there people still playing or am I doomed to solo till I get bored?
>>530282234game is dead im afraid :/
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Do people buy shit at this price or is something else going on?
I will keep the thread open, maybe there is someone on a Europe server that still plays
Another wander in the night
Let me paint the view
insecure buggys and thumpers
Letting them be eaten by shai hulud for you
I'm not out in the day
But never fully gone
Going to be back again
Until the coming of a dawn
>>530283109Probably trying to fleece dupers
>>530283161seriously though, the /vg/ guild apparently fell apart immediately after creation because nobody could get into the servers when they were full so he started inviting randoms or something, not sure it ever was active and not sure why it's included in the OP, I think everyone here just plays solo
Did they actually fix the new dupe? Nothing about it in the patch notes.
Then again, they never said anything about fixing the perma repair either
>>530285582>I think everyone here just plays soloI play with two friends I got to know from other games and have been playing with for years now, it's pretty comfy as a small guild.
>>530286237Yeah me too, I meant more that there is no thread zerg guild
>>530286407That's a good thing honestly, those tend to be fucking miserable experiences to be part of.
>personal shields are common as hell, almost every fighter has one
>cutters can be made in 15 seconds by anybody with a few pieces of scrap metal
>cutters are lasguns
>anybody can make a nuke in 15 seconds with a personal shield and few bits of scrap metal
how does the world still exist, lore-wise. Improvised cutters don't have the 'safety mechanism' bullshit btw
>>530288248The uhh.... spice melange works in mysterious ways.
>>530286237I am looking to farm and explore the rift, if you have space in the comfy small style guild. My friends don't like the future desert themes
They need to get rid of the overworld shit
>>530289127They probably plan to add more to it to justify it existing, but yeah right now it feels kinda pointless.
>>530256532I don't know what you are trying to prove because I can't really make out the blueprint but that interaction is a pretty common mistake because it's displaying the display name of the actor which gives a nonsense string like that in a shipped product but not a test version.
>>530259746Why? Blueprints are plenty effective. It would be dumb not to use them for the surface level stuff.
>>530283161>>530285582I will gladly play with anons but I'm waiting for the first major patch they release to try balance out pvp.
>>530291557>balance out pvplol
lmao
>>530291557you cannot "balance" 10 dickbags firing a hundred rockets at you the moment they spot you
Where should I go to get a bunch of complex machinery to build the various fabricators?
>>530291887Ironworks buildings in the vermillion gaps. They come in groups of 2. Half a dozen guards and a loot chest/generator that has components in each.
There's also testing station 10 but that's a lot farther and the dungeon also takes a lot longer to complete, but it does get you more parts and other loot as well.
>>530291887The various ironworks around the map.
>>530291839>>530291702Yeah you can. That balance might be removing rockets from thopters completely, but it's better than what we have now. Just let the new way to take down flying vehicles be a ground rocket direct hit forcing it to land.
>>530292532There needs to be counterplay to getting ganked. That's literally all we need.
A ground based proximity sensor that detects aircraft because the draw distance isn't reliable. A few seconds invulnerability shield for an orni with no weapons. I don't fucking know. You just want solo players not to be sitting ducks.
>>530292758Planetologists should be able to scan for where Ornithopters are in the DD or have some sort of radar.
>>530293362So many options yet they choose none. The pvp are is dangerously close to becoming a containment zone nobody in their right mind goes to.
>>530294258>nobody in their right mind goes into the deep desertlore accurate.
has anyone worked out how much they randomised the loot box timer as per the patch notes?
>>530292532>That balance might be removing rockets from thopters completely,Absolutely not going to happen, since they have them in Dunc.
>can't play
>leave base without power for 5 days
>expect it to be gone when I log in
>still there
>vehicles still in perfect condition
>lights still on
What does running out of power actually do?
please for the love of God give us a way to filter out all the trash schematics on the trading post. filter by tier / mk, please bearded man.
>>530295727your base parts might need some repair.
>>530295727Maybe the coriolis damages it?
A fucking gay homo faggot nigger retard made this quest.