2 Brain Cells edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>529820121

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Steam Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/steam-hotfix-6-6-4-30th-of-june/110130

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #70 (1.8.2)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-70-1-8-2/110096

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

I want new weapons.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

Felinid update when? >:3c

>>529912735
>release a new weapon
>just roll the meta stats and get the meta perks, blessings
>play for a few hours
>I want new weapons.

>>529912735
Soon, Brother!

>>529912938
Right after the sex update where you will be able to have breeding sex with other play characters mid game. I have it on good authority FS are hard at work implementing this long awaited feature.

I want chaos rejects. Like funny variants with chaos themed talents.
But this faggot community wouldn't allow it.

>>529912938
Never.

Is the Eviscerator good yet? Please say yes.

Guys, I think the dump stat for shield is power output. I know the alt is good, but defense is all about how many dodges, distance, etc.

>>529913218
Yes, and fun.

>>529913218
It's okay. Just okay.

>>529913349
whattu buildu, do I have to use memetyrdom to make it good?

>>529913415
There's only one zealot build.

>>529913101
>I want to play as the enemy!
why are there always fags like this in co-op games

>>529913279
60 defense gives the same number of dodges as 80 defense
The dodge distance is already kinda bad, and the additional stat isn't going to affect it in any meaningful way
Even the slightest increase in angle and distance on the flashbang massively increases the amount of enemies you can hit with it.
It's defense dump.

Checkmate, white man.

>>529913203
>The Emperor was a furfag
what a lore drop

>>529914035
>was
is

>>529913101
I want to be an Ork.

>>529912795
too soon...

>>529914085
yea, sure. lets say that schizo thing on the throne is still Emps

>>529913782
Oh...

What do Felinids look like? Are they anime cat girls? Or closer to pic related?

>>529914125
Anon it's been 8 years...

>>529914412
kek

>>529914412
Or go Relic and replace the top left with the bottom right to get the double CDR

>>529914412
woop, there it is

Not to give any attention to the gachaschizo but if I were not invested in the genre or setting and I opened the equipment menu and saw a shovel with a 27-character-long designation, all the stats appearing as fractional percentages in brackets of extremely vague and undefined characteristics like "Finesse", and all the blessings being shit like +25% Fart Force for 5 seconds on hit (stacks 3 times), I would probably immediately uninstall and refund

>>529914453
get this accursed fucking game out of my safe space general

>>529914453
Get this sexy ass unfinished dream game in here and in my basement

I have this setup in the bottom of my tree, and am trying to figure out how to squeeze the most amount of damage out of my last 2 points
Target the weak is multiplicative, soulguilt scan is pretty much multiplicative, crits are multiplicative...
On the other hand, monstrosity hunter adds another +20% monstrosity DoT which I have plenty of, but then soulguilt really ramps up the weakspot damage with bolts. I know street smarts is good, but I consider it to be point tax, and I'm not giving up rebreather.

I'd appreciate any input you guys might have.

>>529914453
Either they're actual DAOT tech and people were trying to make catgirls real which'd mean they're really pretty (most likely just humans with cat ears) or they evolved naturally, in which case they'll probably look more like ugly chimps than cats because humans are apes.

>having RNG drops in a game is a fucking gacha (no, i have no idea what that word means)

I think the default Arbites cosmetic looks the best. The specialist is okay but I don't like the weird gimp gloves with the sleeves tucked into them. The veteran is okay but I dislike that it's missing the handcuffs and has the weird off blue color cape. The premium one is decent (minus the ugly ass helmet) but is again missing the jiggleboned handcuffs and is currently glitched to have a giant number on the cape. The red variants all look awful for some reason that I can't quite articulate.

>>529913861
And what's the issue

>>529912532 (OP)
That’s Horus? I thought he would be more… yeah…

>>529913101
>I want chaos rejects. Like funny variants with chaos themed talents.
Darktide Versus.

>>529914035
You mean DAOT humanity were. Also we don’t know if they’re furries or just anime cat girls. Or both.

>>529913101
What the hell would chaos rejects even fight? I prefer chaos to the imperium but how would you make a Tide game out of that? You would have to make them fight xenos or something.

>>529914453
>What do Felinids look like?
We don't know. There's no official depictions of them.
Also I wouldn't expect Fatshark to add felinids to Darktide at all.
Felinids are basically in the same boat as female ogryns, they exist, but there is no official depictions of them, meaning Fatshark will never bother adding them.

>>529915871
SAY THE WORD, I'LL MAKE IT RAIN

>>529914453
>>529914778
>>529914903
What game?

>>529916038
If GW allows it...
Being the first to depict a species would be a great opportunity. You can set the precedent for what most future depictions will be like.

>>529915871
>Darktide Versus.
How could this even possibly work without some retarded number tweaks? You can't sneak up on arbitrators because they just wallhack you, most classes have guns that can oneshot anything lighter than a mauler, and mutants are the only tanky unit with relevant speed. The fuck are you gonna do as the heretics?

>>529916083
Dragon's Dogma 2

>>529914453
The most we know for sure about the Felinids is that they’re agile killing machines and actually valued in the Guard because of it but beyond that, you can pretty much headcanon them to be whatever

>third worldie
>can afford arbites
>regularly play havoc 40 on 170-190 ping with server set to NAE and W because no one else in my entire continent plays this game
>regularly topscore the leaderboard
what's your excuse

>>529916024
>What the hell would chaos rejects even fight?
More chaos. Wouldn't be canon in the way you are thinking but more like I said, just a variant of your already existing characters. It's arcade I know, I don't take games that seriously.

>>529916762

>>529916741
Un ptit kebab, chef?

>just doing quickplay aurics, nice comfy fun
>decide to spice it up with a maelstrom
>load into a game a 10 or so minutes in
>three new level 30s
>all three constantly going down
>constantly reviving them
>killing almost everything
>carry all three kicking and screaming through the map
>several times they go down completely and I'm forced to run to the next area to revive them
>kill bosses myself as they're all dead
>beat the map
Enjoy seeing these people in Havocs anons. You're welcome.

>Me unga
>Team Bunga
White text.

>>529916217
>Being the first to depict a species would be a great opportunity. You can set the precedent for what most future depictions will be like.
And that is the big major reason as to why GW wouldn't allow it.

>>529917828
What havoc level do you even get nowadays for beating a maelstrom? I remember some number between 17 and 21 but the only time I've dropped out of the 40s was on seasonal resets.
Certainly helps explain why the 20s range is populated with sub-humans, either way.

>>529917828
The most fun I've ever had in this game is playing with new players on higher difficulties. I know some anons get frustrated over this, but to me it's incredibly fun. Even if we lose, I like the challenge. I like how hectic it can get

>>529916762
would

>just play for the sake of playing bro
>keep replaying the same missions over and over again using the exact same meta gear
>just play for the sake of playing bro
>my mind is screaming at me to play a different, less sloppy game
>just play for the sake of playing bro

>>529912532 (OP)
>Horus commits a Heresy

>>529918191
If you're not having fun, anon. Then stop playing. I enjoy playing, but I'll probably drop the game in a week or two again until the next big update.

>>529918385
Hummums hememsy

>>529918415
>responding to retarded schizobabble
ngmi

>>529914035
You try living for 38,000 years and see if you don't develop every fetish known to man. I guarantee the Emperor fucked everything under the sun at least once.

>>529918415
Pay him no mind, he's a mentally ill or baiting discordtranny that has had the same talking points for four threads now.

>fucking rng drops? that's for neets and other tryhards, this new crafting system is neat!!
>umm yeah I'm just playing for a week or two everytime a big updates comes out teehee :)

>>529918553
Even himself???

>>529917828
lol those 3 players are here complaining about havoc

>>529919065
No, they're the ones posting that you don't need to follow the meta to clear pub Havoc 40. Of course they never submit any evidence of their clears.

>>529917828
kek literally me just then
i joined half way through and it was a mess the second i got in
incredibly fun though

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I ACTUALLY GOT IT ACTUALLY FUCKING GOT IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>529916038
>female ogryns
They look like this

>>529920346
you could be this hyped every so often if the gear looting wasn't obsolete

>>529920396

If Vermintide is so great why there's no Vermintide 2? Checkmate, ratfags.

>>529918553
Isnt it more like 46K years since he was around in the 8th millennium BC?

>>529920503
umm

>>529920503
uhhhhhh

>>529920503
cough

>>529917937
CA has gotten to do that a lot for Fantasy/Old World. Plus GW would be approving it every step.

>>529920563
He's been mostly dead for 10,000 years anon.

Let me kill genestealer cultists

>elite/special spawn notice
>spidey sense
>AoE circles on everything including bombers
>hp bars
>third person
>HoxUI
>flashlight servoskull
YEP, IT'S GAMING TIME

>>529921093
All super gay, but I've never heard of Flashlight Servoskull. That sounds kinda cool.

>>529921039
Coming to Darktide 2 in 2030

>>529921039
Erm sweetie don't you know that GENESTEALERS easily kill SPACE MARINES? No, no we can't have them in Poxclick. Powerleveles don't match.

>>529921093
I use the first 3 and will continue to do so until Trappers have their priority sound set to the highest level like Poxbursters do (or at least are supposed to, they still spawn with no sound sometimes)

>>529921039
How long until we actually get the Genestealer update? I want 3 way missions between us, Admonition, and the cult

>>529921305
Fuck em

>He's wearing cargo shorts.

>>529921728
I HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO WEAR YOU FUCKING JIGGER, THEY STOLE MY FUCKING JEANS

>>529921039
let me kill criminal scum

>>529921728
WELL EXCUSE ME IF I VALUE PRACTICALITY OVER FASHION, LADIES

>>529921305
Genestealer cultists are LITERALLY perfect for this powerlevel, as long as actual genestealers are kept to being bosses. The trvthnuke that nobody wants to swallow is that GSC would be so similar to dregs that it wouldn't even make an appreciable difference in gameplay. They would be purple dregs and jewtubers would be basedfacing over getting to fight purple dregs.

>>529921925
you want to kill hot women?

>>529920396
Different game. But you would be correct most likely.

>>529921728
Wrong, I unironically look like this since 21yo

>>529922141
They could have a third arm and their melee dudes could hold a gun in it. So they would have hybrid units.

how do build plasma gun

>>529922378
i HATE women
they STINK

>>529922826
By spending several million dockets until you get the perfect 69-71 in both thermal and charge rate, then you put optimized cooling on it to maximize the number of primary shots holding down the trigger.
I forget the breakpoints for perks, but I run unyielding and carapace.
I'm pretty sure the last blessing is up to taste, I haven't noticed any of them making a massive difference.

Weapons specialist is often regarded to be the best keystone to use with it, for the passive reload on the left of it.

>>529922945
No they don't.

>>529920989
Oh right, lol
>>529921305
Genestealers can do that. Not genestealer cultists. Learn the difference.
>>529922141
Not really. There are a number of units that could be different enough from what we’re already facing. The sharp shooters and weird scientist ones for example

>>529912985
>>529915321
>>529918191
>>529918685
>>529920445
Damn, son, you look thirsty. This one is on the house :)

>>529920852
I mean isn’t that just due to it being Fantasy and not their sweet baby of 40k? They’ve always been pretty lenient with it, even Fatshark got to do some neat (if not completely unrealized) stuff with the careers, it’s 40k that they’re exceedingly anal about

>>529923553
He looks insanely pathetic when you put all of his posts together like this

>>529914453
It's not known but according to Liber Xenologis felinids can have claws as long as their forearm

Ya know what, I'll say it. I don't like the red bright visor. Shit's gay.

>>529923553
I think you just killed a man

Do you think Darktide will ever have more rewards added to the penance track? I like it having more points than the highest rewards but being able to be 1k over seems excessive. Considering that the 5500 reward was something Fatshark was called out for not having from the start of it seems like it's abandoned now

i hate penance farming so much. i dont want to use marksman focus it fucking sucks

>>529925127
You are just mad everyone is using it and it's not exclusively just for (You)

>>529925676
You don't have to do it if you don't want to

>>529925819
*ahem* sorry, i want to use marksman's focus. it's unfortunate that it fucking sucks

>>529925469
I'm surprised they didn't add more with the arby update.

>>529922378
Yes. Necromunda: Hired Gun awakened something in me.

I wish the zealot had a bonus against human sized (melee) elites like ogryn has for ogryn.

>>529925756
I'd be ok if it wasn't the standard, yea, but I wouldn't use it because it would be paid and I don't pay....

>>529926779
I wish they got rid if most if not all damage/DR talents. They tend to be boring
Stuff like until death, vet nade regen or the 250% push on ogryn are the gold standard for talents in my opinion. Noticable, useful, and change how you approach the game. In a perfect world every talent would be that significant

>pick crabwalk talent
>menacingly crouch towards everything with my powersword

>>529922636
You could have a third arm and hold my cock in it faggot

>>529927669
Kill yourself telepots.

>>529925107
That’s kinda hot. Imagine they have power enhancements that make them even sharper or something

>>529926779
You wish he had extra damage against the least threatening enemies?

would you post your reject?

ogryn > arbites > psyker > veteran=zealot

>>529928701
What difficulty are we talking

>>529928808
I only play havoc 40. This is my personal experience.

>>529928683

>>529928701
I think your list is correct in reality, thats how it ends up being
technically psyker is way stronger than ogryn tho if played perfectly, they just suck ass at the class

what's better to dump on a relic blade, heat management or mobility?

>>529929087
literally always mobility there are no exceptions

>>529928683

>>529929065
>if played perfectly
Ease of use >

>>529928683
am win

>>529928683
Ok.
Still waiting for the day when we get some normalass cadian flak armour.

>>529929034
this is an Arbitrator, not a reject, silly

>>529929196
Ease of use doesnt factor into "in an optimal scenario"
in an optimal scenario psyker is strongest because the player wouldnt be shit optimally
in reality psyker does not often end up the strongest because people arent skillcapped (far from it, because hes super easy to pull your weight on)

>>529928683
For Cadia!

>>529928683
I'm a filthy paypig.

>it's another "retarded faggots spend all available resources repeatedly trying to save a Bot until they eventually get overwhelmed and die" rerun
I hate this episode.

>>529928701
Zealot is on par with Veteran is just insane. Zealot is like several power levels above, just for actually having better melee, better tank, better movement and better CC and the ability to use the Bolter AND pull it out faster by using blades

>new tab
>type in 4chan.org/vg
>catalog
>ctrl+f "coopg"
>type in "un p'tit kebab, chef ?
>close tab
le troisième est gratuit, mec !

>>529928701
>>529928913
Putting zealot low pretty much overlaps with my experience, but that's only because most zealot players fucking suck. The build everyone uses also sucks. A good stealth zealot provides invaluable amounts of damage, and a good support chorus zealot (purity aura, no melee damage cope talents) also has incredible contribution, including damage when you let them have ammo.

It's kind of hard to gauge where to put veteran, because a good veteran just invalidates all gunners and disablers before they get to do anything, but also kinda needs someone to babysit them similar to psykers, so it's an entire squad playstyle. In a vacuum, it's probably the weakest, but when supported, I've had veterans carry teams.

I don't think I'd put ogryn that high up, but I think that's also down to ogryn players frequently being shit. I've not yet had a run where I felt an ogryn contributed in a way that others couldn't have done better. Aggro control is useful with retards, but a chorus zealot is better at keeping retards alive. Knocking things over with bull rush shouldn't be necessary in a good team, and doesn't really help bad teams in my experience.

I'd say zealot = psyker > ogryn > veteran, because I've had plenty of 2 zealot 2 psyker runs that were completely fucking free. I'm still unsure where to put the piggy, but they're definitely extremely strong, so probably below psyker.

>>529928683
*slips from the roof's corner and fucking dies*

>>529928683
>inviting the slopsters to get their slopsworth out of their slop

>>529928683
Working on my veteran, gotta get that square cap from achivo

>>529928683
I'm heckin cute and valid

>>529928683

>>529929427
Ogryn presses left click and matches your stupid ass "optimal play" with ease. Maybe if you put 500 more moving parts into your build/playstyle you'll eventually be able to match someone pressing left click with ogryn.

>>529928683
Didn't change much

>>529929908
I feel like you arent understanding me at all, I'm talking about every class being played perfectly, ease of use doesnt factor in
if every class is played perfectly, psyker shits on everything because of unlimited aoe with unlimited ammo and the best cdr in the game

>Shock mine lasts 15s
>Get one every 60s
It's like having a smigger helping 1/4 of the time

>>529930403
and with smaller aoe, since smite goes pretty far and wide

>>529929427
Ease of use somewhat factors into optimal scenarios. Slight tangent, but you will see this in MOBA games, with players preferring to make viable comfort picks over difficult to execute meta picks. Ease of use is a strength in itself, because it lowers the required concentration threshold to execute any given build perfectly, thus makes you less prone to fuckups, and lets you play longer without getting burnt out.

>>529930335
I agree with this, and it's also worth mentioning how easily and effectively you can slot a class into any given lineup. Psyker is always one of the most valuable contributors, if only for +10% cdr + psykinetic aura. It's a complete game changer. Never mind how strong bubble is, but it's technically unnecessary with good teams, so feel free to factor in infinite cleave burn shriek instead.

>>529929034
I can only tell thats a guy from the beard
god I hate darktide's models

>>529929187
I just can't get over the fact that the coattails are dark grey while the sleeves are green.

>>529928683
I shamelessly pigged for the best looking zealot skin we're ever going to get.

>>529930746
>Ease of use is a strength in itself, because it lowers the required concentration threshold to execute any given build perfectly, thus makes you less prone to fuckups
Especially true in fighting games. It doesn't matter how strong the difficult characters are. Most tournament players will play braindead characters because they want to focus on doing the basics of the game right rather than trying to execute their complex-character specific bullshit.
Doesn't really apply to darktide that much.

>>529931178
>Doesn't really apply to darktide that much.
It does, in a way. Most forms of damage resistance, toughness increases etc. are TECHNICALLY unnecessary if you just play perfectly. Assuming you're the best player and everyone else is trash, shit like 3 stamina curios with stamina stats (including block efficiency) is optimal because it lets you run more, and makes you much more likely to res your retards with the copious amounts of attacks you can block during.
It's basically conceptually the same as the retarded shit Tr*nner would say, with absolutely no basis in practical reality, but theoretically true if you want to pretend you're an infallible god of perfect execution.

In reality, everybody fucks up at least sometimes, and thus takes toughness curios, with maybe one health curio, maxed gunner resist, and maybe even one sniper and/or corruption res. And that's just one of the more obvious examples. There's other shit too, like building guns to hit breakpoints for, say for example, trapper bodyshots. A better player would just shoot the head. I know myself better than to assume I always will, and the trapper surviving my first shot could unironically cost me the run.

>>529931171
Comically huge Inquisition pendant

>>529931171
I also piggied for the Saltzpyre fit. Too good.

>>529929369
>multiple female faces
>everyone only picks this one
so much for diversity heh

>>529932207
You know why, lets not go down that fucking shitstained rabbithole again.

>>529932207
I use the other one

>>529929626
>guy goes down 5-6 times per area
>this is his 10th down in this area
>ogryn propels himself off the platform

Never let Lucifer lead you astray

send my character into the eye of terror he'll solo the entire warp and tbag lorgar's corpse just because

favourite psyker voice?
I really dislike the Loner's borderline-heresy

>>529933026
I picked French because Psykers always surrender

>>529921925
It's already canon that a lot of the low tier enemies in Darktide are former cartel goons who essentially got pressganged by Wolfer and the Cult of Admonition into being their lackeys. There's voice lines about that in some of the missions.

What is the point of this?

>>529933546
You and Allies in Coherency gain additional +7.5% Reload Speed.

>>529920396
They'd have to get the fire department to pull me out of there

>>529933546
you can read right?

>>529933546
you don't want a 3-4 second reloading animation to be a whole 7 percent faster?

>>529912795
I swear I made that joke ages ago and I'm impressed it's a staple here.

>knife enemy
>gets bisected in half

Happy 4th of July coopg

>>529933823
yeah they've buggered up the gore system again, I don't know how they manage this.

>>529933697
Nice try.

>>529914453
As long as they don't try to pander to weebs I'll be happy.

>>529933546
>t. never touched a shotgun

>>529928683
I still need to come up with a Zealot name

>>529920396
>The Wife of the local Chippy owner

I can't help but facepalm every time I see an Arbitrator die in 1 shot. Just get the talent dude.
I just had to spend like 5 minutes solo trying to pull off a save in a 40 being chased by pink and yellow waves of maulers and crushers in that one boiler room in the beginning of chasm station. I rescued my teammate, he went and also died in 1 shot. Just get true grit bruh. I didn't even survive purely off being a good player, I survived because true grit let me tank 50 overheads, snipers and poxbursters in a small room for 5 minutes

>>529934179
i wish i could have both nuncio aquila and break the line at the same time

>>529933981

After 1 year hiatus I decided to come back to play the space cop class. I'm literally carrying damnation/aurics missions and I'm a super shitter at this game. Did it get easier? Is arbitrator that good?

>>529933823
>>529933909
It's actually funny though. Shooting something once with a laspistol or chucking a throwing knife at an enemy and watching them explode with gore or have the top half of their body fly off is great.

One thing I noticed and really like is the detail of the quarantine/disease in the maps. Entire sections of the hive quarantined, piles of bagged bodies, this rotting cadaver serving as a source of the infection, etc.

>>529934306
Auric did get easier yes. But also Arbitrator is just that good. If you are just smart and have any knowledge of how a Tide game works, you can make Arbitrator work easily because the talent tree is impossible to mess up with, unlike with the 3 other man classes where half the talents are noobtraps.

>>529934306
>Did it get easier?
Not directly. Power creep happened.
>Is arbitrator that good?
Yes, the class is fucking busted in anything below maelstrom, and I'd still argue it's too strong even in maelstrom. Reworked ogryn and mall cop were evidently balanced with high havoc in mind.

Other classes can be similarly powerful, but are harder to play, or require some form of team cohesion that simply doesn't exist outside of havoc. Ogryn and Arby's hardly have to try.

>>529934467
Sure but the problem with this is after a while it no longer impresses you because you've seen it too much, it's why I never take bloody mess in fallout, that sort of thing should be a cathartic reward, not a thing that happens every kill.

>>529934306
Arby is a very strong class. They have a tool for every situation and are extremely durable.

>>529934306
>Is arbitrator that good?
Arbi is busted good, his mastiff means you can just ignore poxhounds since the dog will save you anyways

>>529928683
BIG BILLY

>>529934854
You are a Billy
A silly Billy

>>529931768
If you were apart of the Inquisition, you would probably want to flaunt it too

>>529928683
My friend told me this fit makes him look like a "Gay Boot Camp guy"

>>529928683

>>529934301
Take that and the aura and you basically have permanent +27.5% reload speed.

>>529933358
Yeah, it’s a pretty common phenomenon in general, Zola’s dialogue makes it pretty clear it’s also why gangers and other illegally operating groups tend to ironically side with Imperial forces against Chaos uprisings, they know a much worse fate awaits them under the boot of Chaos

Reminder that before Arbites released, a number of retards here were coping that the class looked extremely weak from the gameplay footage on Sedition; that the shotgun can't even kill a poxhound in one shot (not even the plasma gun can); that it would turn out the weakest class somehow and that the dog was useless.
I just think that's very hilarious. Don't let them let you forget about all the cope.

>>529934854
BIG BRUCE

I don't understand how to build dog.

>>529928683

>>529935463
And they were right

>>529935902
Take Voltaic Mandibles, it basically doubles the dog's damage.

>>529933546
>>529934301
It's for dogless builds.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3472722314
If the steam guide is to be believed, breaking dissent is additive to a bunch of other damage nodes that stack additively. If you are primarily running around shotgunning things in the head, you will neither appreciate the tax nodes to reach it, nor necessarily get that much use out of the aura itself.
Since you're not taking the dog, the dog aura is completely pointless.

I don't think the reload aura is all that good and would probably still prefer the stagger damage, especially when factoring in how good concussive and related blessings are, but if going for a purely ranged focus build for some reason, it theoretically has a use.

>>529935902
dog brittleness is useless
voltaic mandibles is the best talent for dog
why the fuck are you skipping on the keystone's crit and damage
why are you missing the 2 mandatory subnodes of BTL

>>529928683

>>529935902
razor jaw, voltaic mandibles, canine morale
there are other nodes, sure, but if you didn't bring these I don't know why you brought the dog at all

>>529935463
What does that image have to do with it

>>529936217
Thou art formidable, slab.

>>529936401

>>529936298
razor jaw is bait.

>>529928683

>>529936804
Razor jaw solos monstrosities and accidentally kills nearby shot/gunners on pounce lol

>>529928683
>>529935965

>>529936991
looks like steve1989mre

>>529937049
I go with pretty basic looks for my characters. I just prefer the more "grounded" look, if that makes any sense.
Even my zealot is basically a "SoB at home".

heavy stubber or twin linked heavy stubber?
I didn't even know they added a non-twin one

>>529937049
>here we have a ration pack from the 31st Millennium
>there's a can of corpse starch, a pack of lho sticks and some recaf, instant, type 2
>let's get this out on a tray
>nice!

>>529935463
>doomers are retarded faggots who should kill themselves
more at 11

>>529928683
*MUFFLED UNINTELLIGBLE SOUNDS*

>>529937485
The non twin one is far more accurate at range than it's doubled up cousin, but of course for far less firerate.
treat it like the ogryns one truly longer range weapon.

>>529936804
>why would I want my dog to kill man sized targets instantly, horde clear just by brushing past things as he spams his pounces, and put 16 stacks of bleed on larger targets at all times?
you serious?
the only real complaint is that currently the bleeding deaths can make canine morale and other "on pounce" or "on kill" talents not proc
they really need to fix that shit, and until they do I'm just not going to run dog

>>529933546
you could be saving up to .3 seconds PER RELOAD anon that is insane

WTF how???

>>529938514
is hammer still a meme?

>>529938514
A relic from the past.

>>529938514
Sw*de code rounding error. You have 79.7 in multiple stats or something.

>>529929667
>support chorus zealot
anytime any one uses the word "support" it usually means "be completely useless and die". a bookbot has just as much worth as a regular bot but it can push bursters.

>>529938763
Using chorus off cooldown and bringing a health build with martyr's purpose is as close as you can get to a support build. Of course you are expected to contribute otherwise. Don't be such a havoclet.

ATTENTION, SCUM.

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 30 SECONDS TO PROVE ME YOU'RE NOT BUNGA.

>>529938929
lol everytime i have a chorus in a havoc game they always end up being a humongus shitter that does 1/3 of the damage everyone else does and usually throwing the game. book just a crutch tool for people who want a participation trophy to play in havoc but die in the first room otherwise.

Now, I know the Swagger=Grendyl is retarded, but the interaction between him and Rannick always seemed sussy

>>529939549

>>529939576
You are 100% correct, most chorus zealots are dogshit. That doesn't mean chorus or support builds are inherently bad. Two things can be true at the same time.

>>529939585
Swagger is apparantly someone who's had personal contact with Grendyl, at least hte way he speaks, it seems to throw Rannick off a bit.

>>529939708

>>529938718
Hammer was strong in Aurics after the last major buff that changed Crucis's moveset

>>529939549

>>529936182
I could see it being semi useful on a Bolter build but with Terminus Warrant reload node the reload speed feels capped anyway

>>529940336
Show the rest of the tree to see if it's justified.

>>529940336
Relic blade using ass.

>>529940534
Default zealot, but also takes TWBS and stealth.

>>529940684
>stealth.
I knew it.

>>529939576
I dunno. I'm doing marginally less damage than most players who are spending the whole game hitting/shooting things. Flamer does a lot of its damage over time, and other players are still hitting/shooting stuff while you're burninating, and you don't get infinite ammo like Inferno Psykers. Chorus Zealot isn't there to top damage but to help the infinite clear and fill in with melee when applicable while keeping the team alive, with the last point taking priority. But anyone getting 1/3 of the other players' average damage is probably fucking up tremendously or being completely starved of ammo.
> book just a crutch tool for people who want a participation trophy to play in havoc but die in the first room otherwise.
It is the single best tool for recovering near-wipe moments and one of the best tools for avoiding them in the first place. Tell me you've never played high Havocs without explicitly saying it.

>>529938718
It's less of a meme than it used to be. It isn't amazing but they changed some things in a good way like the way you swing it after you activate it, and it is somewhat adequate at horde clear now. Of course it still rapes bosses too.

>>529939585
I mean the guy is clearly a pretty resourceful asset. Wouldn’t surprise me if Grendyl thought best to keep him around and even had him carry out some tasks for him

>>529940634
>RB
>no keystone for extra attack speed (and breakpoints w/ Martyr)
What the fuck does that have to do with Relic Blade?

>>529928683
>>529935965
>>529936991

>>529939708
Exceptionally based.

>>529939549
I didn't buy a single new cosmetic since the arbites update

>>529941218
>since the arbites update
and before?

>>529940634
>>529941076
It's actually thrust dueling sword without uncanny. IYKYK, I won't say more.

After taking the advice given I've made this. I don't think I like this bros.

>>529941218
wow anon thats almost a month out of 3 years!

>>529941373
Brother eww

>>529941298
I assume you're using it to assassinate shit with the stealth node and using both CD nodes to do it more often

>>529941297
I got every peg leg I saw In the shop
I see peg leg I buy

>>529941373
Try this. I've tried to make sure to include most of the most valuable nodes, accounting for how the damage formula works. The cooldown reduction on BTL is optional and could instead go into soulguilt, which is another pretty significant damage multiplier. I opted out of it because I like bashing more often, and won't always hit headshots.

The only dog AI keystone that matters is the ranged enemy one, because it increases the dog's leash range. I'm not a fan of it, because I need the dog to be responsive for remote det, and if it's 40 meters away, it won't get there in time.

>>529940792
>It is the single best tool for recovering near-wipe moments
you could also just not wipe in the first place. it's actually very easy to not wipe in havoc by not playing stupid, double that with extra damage you'd actually be doing it faster and securing more.
>best tools for avoiding them in the first place.
doing more damage is always millions of times more helpful than just being a cheerleader.
>Tell me you've never played high Havocs without explicitly saying it.
what? is havoc 40 too good for you can't be asked to say it? lmao

>>529941785
>you could also just not wipe in the first place. it's actually very easy to not wipe in havoc by not playing stupid, double that with extra damage you'd actually be doing it faster and securing more.
Yes, I'll be sure to tell my 3 teammates that. Fucking kek. Stopped reading here. Enjoy your (you)

>>529941882
it's not my problem you have to depend on crutch tools to play the game. how about use your dodge button? maybe slide a few times?

>>529941785
NTA but
>chorus
>just being a cheerleader
Maybe in your hands.
>you could also just not wipe in the first place.
You're some combination of delusional retard and premade discordtranny, if you actually even play havoc at all, and you talk like you haven't made it past 25.
>doing more damage
A flamer zealot when supplied with ammo comes close second behind the psyker, unless a dedicated damage zealot without chorus obliterates everything. But there's no overlap here, you can bring all three and have a god team without the need for a fourth.

whats your build for shock maul arby? same with maul and shield?

>>529942124
He's a retard that doesn't understand why someone would just say "high havocs" instead of exclusively referring to H40, like it's somehow substantially different from 39, 38, 37, etc.. He's most likely hardstuck in the 20s or at the 30 mark if he's touched the game mode at all. Don't bother taking him seriously.

>>529942505
And the weirdest part is that the havoc 35-39 range is unironically harder than h40 games, because you're much, much less likely to actually have good players. The numbers are theoretically easier than in h40, but the difference is extremely minor.

>>529942692
kek yeah
The early 30s are actually the worst fucking shit imaginable.

>>529941761
Thanks dawg. I'm gonna run this build.

>>529938514
Can I have a zealot hammer build pls, since I've got that +1% god roll on?

>>529928683
Includes one slop

>>529928683

>>529942124
>You're some combination of delusional retard and premade discordtranny, if you actually even play havoc at all, and you talk like you haven't made it past 25.
hey man, if you need gold toughness to survive the 20 year-windup crusher overhead because you can't press the dodge button, just say so.
>A flamer zealot when supplied with ammo comes close second behind the psyker, unless a dedicated damage zealot without chorus obliterates everything.
then why forgo doing more damage? just to be sure? more damage is always good unless your team is severely lacking.

>>529943059
I don't think the ogryn/monstrosity damage is worth 2 points. Target the Weak + Soulguilt still add up to more damage. Also not taking the range increase on BTL bricks it out of being able to charge through fire, and that's one of the more common ways I use it.

>>529943575
>unless your team is severely lacking.
That's a very roundabout way of admitting that you only play with premades. Opinion discarded. Don't (You) me.

>>529939549

>>529940534

>>529943431
I run this build for TH and Chaxe. I used to run TH with Martyr, but I've moved away from that. You can run it with IJ; IJ is good too, but I prefer BP for FotF spamming. Stalwart should get you enough crit once BP comes online that you can keep IoD to ~100% uptime from then on, and that's the only reason you care about crits on this build.

Carapace + Unyielding
Headtaker + Slaughterer/Thrust

>>529943958
MAULING

Thoughts on burst limi- limi- limi... fire-fast keystone?

>>529943492
you should go all black, looks retarded in red

>look for havoc 35+ game
>find nothing
I'm never getting True Survivor. Time for house chores.

>>529943752
yes and? why is it suddenly bad that I play with people I know? am i summoning the limbs of exodia because I add people who I know are good at the game?
did you expect havoc 40 runs to only be legitimate with the self-imposed limitations of playing with completely random people with no comms or directions? it's not my fault I have friends lol

(he did not, in fact, have friends)

>>529938763
chorus is fucking boring but it's not "easy", as in 99% are shit at abusing it, even in havoc 40
bookbots are great, especially when they can keep the CD at a minimum and alternate with good horde clear and single target focus
no need to be disingenuous

>>529944384
Fuck of Rejeetnald, don't you have cuck porn to masturbate to?

>>529944009
Cheers for the rundown, time to get some mastery level and then slam

>>529933897
>Drum Mag

How?

>>529944142
My Male wears the black set I was trying to copy that one sexy arbiter image for her.

>>529934110
What's your Zealot's personality?

>>529945261
This

>>529937585
Doomers period, no matter what context, are retarded faggots. They're modern day Doomsayers wanting to see everything to burn to the ground for their own petty nihilism.

>>529945514
sexus shotacoris spotted

>>529945514
Based

>>529944384
>Did you expect havoc 40 runs to only be legitimate with the self-imposed limitations of playing with completely random people with no comms or directions?
So you know you are not playing the same game as 99.9% of the people, but also have the balls to lecture them?
>you could also just not wipe in the first place. it's actually very easy to not wipe in havoc by not playing stupid
Are you actually retarded?

Anons, I give (you) a challenge
come up with a skitarii/tech-priest class that has 3 blitzes, 3 auras, 3 abilities and 3 keystones that makes the class unique without powercreeping other classes

Do they... you know...

>>529945514
>sexy

>>529945351
Gonna go with Male Agitator

>>529946247
*fart*

>>529946370
No, they're both gay.

>>529946971
fascinating

>>529946247
Åke, you have to do it yourself, that's what they pay you for.

>>529946861
Kayne

>>529946247
>without powercreeping other classes
They already failed on that mission with the Arbitrator. Auric missions are a breeze with him.

>>529946169
>So you know you are not playing the same game as 99.9% of the people, but also have the balls to lecture them?
if people feel the need to stoop to crutches just to get by, it's an obvious skill-issue that anyone can laugh at.
>>you could also just not wipe in the first place. it's actually very easy to not wipe in havoc by not playing stupid
>Are you actually retarded?
there's actually many, many different ways you can prevent things going bad by playing by just playing smarter and positioning correctly. It's just that most people are incapable of actually learning from their mistakes and rather just turn to crutches to make up for their failures rather than rectifying inappropriate play. That's why chorus is so popular.

>>529946409
I'm having fun.

>>529929475
Veterans always have the best drip.

>>529947506
A little too close to my usual go-to name for fantasy characters, but I appreciate the help
I think I have one, but I've thought that about the last dozen Zealots I've made, named and deleted over this autism

>>529947743
>I AM THE LEX
>Oh this retard again...

>>529934110
What're your other names?
>anagram of my name for Vet
>simple Dirk for Ogryn
>Harland for psyker after Colonel Sanders
>Gormann for my Zealot after former Supreme Patriarch Thyrus Gormann
>Zidarov for Arbitrator after the main character of Warhammer Crime Bloodlines

>>529947303
I don't want to
>>529947550
true

>>529910120
It's Lae'zel, she's american...

>>529947743
>ATTENTION, BLOCK FODDER

>>529947743
>"why are you dressed up like that?"
>"like what?"

Do you like payday 2?

>>529946247
Let's keep it simple with Tech-Priest since that's what most normies would know of.

>Blitzes are like Servo-Skull Drones and each has a different function
>Default/upgraded one is one that's a Kamikaze that has a decent explosion, with the upgraded one being either friendly napalm, a MIRV like Ogryn's box, or a big BOOM that's maybe 1/2 of the Ogryn's bomb?
>Blitz 2 is a "Sanitation" Grenade that withers and melts Nurgle corrupted enemies, but may work less on say Scab enemies. Think an effect like DRG Driller's Corrosive Gun in how it liquifies enemies. Or just make it a corrosive/gas grenade.
>Blitz 3 lays down a mine that spreads in a small area of mini mines for explosive crowd control.

>Abilities

>Ability 1 which is default/upgraded: he drops a stationary sentry gun that lasts for 5 minutes or until destroyed. Upgraded adds another gun, with other talents that can change what it fires. From turning into a short ranged flamer, or more high damaging gatling gun with the trade off of lasting only a minute and a half and maybe a slightly longer cooldown.

>Ability 2, Unleash the mech tentacle things and they randomly strike out at any enemy that get's close to the Priest (Think The Darkness and how that works). deffo have one talent give one of them a gun.

>Ability 3 is basically, if you ever played Overwatch, there's that grandma sniper Ana whose ability is to shoot a stimulant to power up her allies. Same deal here where you can only pick one talent to say what stim is in the gun, with the default being a med stim (which goes into a skill tree that turns him into a combat medic. The cooldown varies between in-game stims, Med stim is shortest, then quick stim, then combat stim, and then the ability regen stim taking the longest to cool down.

I don't know about keystones, but there ya go fatshark employee reading this thread. Your welcome.

>>529948980
We all did... like 8 years ago

>>529947850
I feel ya. here's how I did it with mine.

>Veteran: Martin, because it's a simple name for a simple soldier
>Ogryn: BIG BILLY! because he would shout that, and Brawler is the best voice.
>Zealot: Flaversham, because of the Scottish voice, and as a reference to the character from Great Mouse Detective.
>Psyker: Originally it was Bismarck because of the German sounding voice, but I got bored and change him into a French girl with the name Caroline because the French voice is very nice and it's a nice name for a cute French woman
>Arbiter: Because Authoritarian sounds kinda french and is very snooty, Griswald just came naturally.

>>529948980
ye

>>529949049
>>Blitzes are like Servo-Skull Drones and each has a different function
Ok I abandoned that idea fast.

>>529947961
Lognus, the Loner Psyker (Tabletop character, full backstory and everything)
Thinking, the Bully Ogryn (Backstory was he told people "I'm Thinking" and he liked how people reacted to that)
Kroenen, the Professional Veteran (Hellboy reference, I just think he's neat)

Come to think of it I'm not sure what I'm gonna call my Arbitrator, I was thinking Kuzunoha or maybe some SWAT4 reference but I'd rather come up with something original
At least I have my Admech name at the ready

>>529947961
I just use my username for everything, I probably should come up with some actual names.

>>529948980
I wanted to buy it on sale then I saw the gigantic list of dlcs

>>529947961
>>529949695
vet - Plasma-Overheater
psyker - WITNESS-UR-DOOOOM
ogryn - STR-based-wizard
zealot - ZealotWithaShotgun

>>529947743
>Unsupervised consumption of intoxicants after curfew in a venue not designated for recreational use.

>>529949978
>ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER. YOU DID NOT PUFF PUFF PASS TO ME! PREPARE FOR SENTACING
>*Racks Shotgun*

>>529950252
I always find it a bit unnerving how she doesn't have any teeth. Typical AI slop I guess.

>look into NA East and West party finder
>3 or 4 havoc games at max at any hour, 90% chance of being between havoc 20-30
>look into EU party finder
>over a dozen games, 5 havoc 40s
ok so americans just suck at this game

>>529950407
I've noticed something vaguely similar, but I actually think the phenomenon is rooted elsewhere entirely.
Americans don't suffer language barrier, so they're naturally more social online and thus more likely to form premades instead of using the party finder. Europeans often get skill issue'd in the communication department.

>>529947961
>Warhammer Crime Bloodlines
What?

>>529946247
>Build a turret for 30 seconds on any surface, that either shoots, pushes any enemy close or has a small shield, gives out ammo and a range dmg buff
>sticky mine that shoots out an electric tether from itself to your character
>tentacle that lifts you to ogryn eye level, ignores slow down or fire effects and gives anti-stun, doc octopus style
>glue/acid grenade with a debuff
>servo skull that does an objective for you, like a hack or a scan, pings enemies in sight for whole team and gives a debuff to them
>iconic electric halberd, as a super powerful, but timed melee weapon
>third arm tentacle that doubles the weapon you have, Salvador from borderlands 2
>holographic decoy, classic ability

>>529950785
that's a buncha gabagool, broski

>>529950785
In my experience americans can communicate (and often will not shut the fuck up) and do things as a team but their individual skill is garbage. Europeans are the opposite.
t. used to play dota

>>529951729
>>iconic electric halberd, as a super powerful, but timed melee weapon

That would piss alot of people off if it weren't just a new weapon period.

>>529950915
He's referencing a book titled Bloodlines published under the Warhammer Crime label by Black Library, the official publishing house of the Warhammer franchise.

>>529949049
>>529951729
your ideas suck ass
>inb4 post your own

Corbec was running way ahead of the group and kept getting shat on by dogs and nets.

Can someone translate? I don't speak turk

>>529946247
>3 blitzes
Servo Arm flamer: 3 charges, shoots a continuous flamer spray for 5s without movement speed penalty, side nodes are not!Penetrating Flame and not!Showstopper
Servo Arm sweep: 2 charges, 45s cooldown, sweep in a 270 degree angle with high stagger, side nodes are apply bleed and gain TDR after usage
Servo Arm plasmagun: 4 charges, fire a plasma bolt that can penetrate several enemies and explodes if max hit mass is reached, side nodes are apply brittleness and increase cleave

>3 auras
Blessing of the Machine Spirit: increase ally ranged damage by 10% and reload speed by 5%
Curse of the Machine Spirit: reduce ranged enemy fire rate by 20%, enemies within 50m have a 1% chance on attack to suffer a jam, disabling their attacks for 3s
Chant of the Omnissiah: allied companions inflict +15% damage

>3 abilities
Summon Servo Skull: Spawns a Servo Skull gun drone companion that prioritizes ranged units and pinged enemies, attacking them with a lasgun and is untargetable, selfdestructing when out of ammo (100 shots), can have up to 2 active. Side nodes are +50% cooldown reduction speed on special/elite kill and +20% Servo Skull ammo
Summon Combat Servitor: Spawns a Combat Servitor companion with a servo arm that is about as competent as a bot ally in melee, low damage but high stagger. Up to 3 can be active at once. Side nodes are +20% Combat Servitor HP and Selfdestruct Protocol (explode like a frag grenade when killed)
Summon Macrostubber Turret: Spawns a turret at the target location, high HP and DPS vs everything except Carapace, prioritizing closest enemies (has min range) or bosses. Lasts for 30s unless resummoned or destroyed. Up to 1 Turret can be active at once. Side nodes are +10% TDR to nearby allies and +10% ranged damage and crit chance to nearby allies

>3 keystones
Magos Dominus: Ranged specialist, team buffer
Electropriest: Melee specialist, all attacks can electrocute
Enginseer: Summon specialist, can buff and heal summons

>>529953680
he's a redditor

>>529953680

>>529953359
Rude. I was trying to make them as boring, basic and requiring the least amount of work to implement, as actual Fatshark designers would do. You know 2 of the alt abilities will be a toughness buff aura shout and a charge-like thing.

>>529953756
Imo, this is a pretty cool idea for a class.
>Summon Macrostubber Turret: Spawns a turret at the target location, high HP and DPS vs everything except Carapace, prioritizing closest enemies (has min range) or bosses. Lasts for 30s unless resummoned or destroyed. Up to 1 Turret can be active at once. Side nodes are +10% TDR to nearby allies and +10% ranged damage and crit chance to nearby allies
If they do add a turret they should make it so that you can heal the turret by hitting it with your melee weapon.
I just want this mainly as a TF2 reference.

>>529953680
that's an actual child

>>529953920
why would I speak the language of a people that lost 2 World war ?

>>529946247
Auras:
Rite of Efficiency: Increases the effect of all pickups by 25% (more ammo and better stims)
Rite of Dismantling: Gives all allies 10% rending on melee
Rite of Maintenance: Gives allies 10% fire rate and reload speed

>>529945178
"extended weapon customization" mod, people make plugins for it

>>529954445
IDK, Man's retarded.

>>529933897
how are the braced autofuns?

>>529950252
>Sextus Minoris 12!
>*corrects you*

>>529954459
>Rite of Efficiency: Increases the effect of all pickups by 25%
>skittle + veteran suddenly make shooty builds viable in havoc
>more healing from medkits
I'm sold.

>>529955134
I'm not sure if it should affect ammo boxes and medkits since vet already has a talent for that

>>529950915
The Warhammer Crime books are really good. I've read Flesh and Steel and Bloodlines so far. Great reads that are nice break from the usual war of Warhammer.

>>529953359
least we both did some effort. Hell I thought the Kamikaze servo skull was a great idea.

All those ideas are making me hyped for a tech-priest reject.

>>529954249
>>529956190
I confess I wanted to bait, I appreciate the responses
here's my super cool idea for tech priest class pls give me a job fatshark
>blitz
grenade that leaves a pool of gas that heals corruption of allies and deals damage to enemies, more to infested, can be specced into pure damage dealing or pure support
grenade that deals a lot of damage but in a shape of a cone facing the direction the player was facing upon throwing it, trait that lets you reverse the cone
deploys a servo skull for a bunch of seconds, mayhaps a minute, that shoots enemies, with priority on marked targets, three specializations, generic lasgun, short range AoE flamer and low RoF high caliber autogun
>auras
what >>529954459 said desu
>abilities
first ability that slowly deals hp damage to you (ramping up) until you are below 50% HP, increased attack speed/fire rate and damage, kills restore HP (potentially maybe have the skill end when toughness is broken but gain increased toughness damage resistance?)
second ability: uhh fuck it idk ground slam that stuns nearby enemies and causes enemies in a big fuck radius to have their guns jam, forcing them to go into melee (specialists/elites that rely on guns such as gunners, trappers, flamers, etc. have their guns temporarly jammed, sort of like a 1 second stun)
third ability: go full melee, revealing a swarm of mechandendrites that makes you attack very quickly and restore even more toughness per melee kill for 30 seconds, effect persists for 10 seconds if you achieved enough kills
>keystones
the more HP% you have corrupted the more boons you gain, sort of akin to zealot's martyr with wounds
gain damage and finesse bonus the longer you go without attacking, a sort of focus on one big hit weapons when it comes to melee and ranged
can't really think of other ideas

maul is bullying my loose cannon vet ;_;

>>529956597
>I confess I wanted to bait

I appreciate the honesty.

AdMech guy gets tesla weapons and omnissian axe

>>529950407
it's almost like it's a holiday during the morning hours

>>529956883
Nigger I regularly play on NA. It's empty every day, every hour. It's not just because muh playing hours.

>>529956597
>weapons
some stuff thats common for humans like bolters, lasguns, autoguns, swords, etc.
unique for admech: omnissian axe (think power axe but holier) , taser goad, chain blade/knife (basically miniaturized chain swords), servo arm (less melee weapon proper more like a giant oversized mechadendrite, desu if admech is ever made a class it should have something unique to do with their mechadendrites, sort of like how the arbiters have their mastiff). Radium and Arc weapons (former is basically radiation, latter is more electricty based), Phosphor weapons too (basically flame focused)

>>529957014
no? it gets fairly populated during later hours. I never struggle to get havoc games from PF.

>>529956597
>>529957131
this is all assuming we would play minor tech-priests, closer to enginseers/skitarii and not tech-priest proper, almost magi
cause the magi look like this and can become walking tanks and armories

>>529928683

>>529957131
I had a thought that if a skittle somehow gets into the game, the radiation weapons would deal corruption to you when fired because it's the most sensible mechanic to represent it without implementing something entirely new.
Which then makes sense in conjunction with >>529956597 suggested keystones.

How much, and how the corruption works, obviously depends on how the weapon works. Maybe an overheat mechanic similar to plasma gun that corrupts you based on how hot the bar runs, or corrupts you to cool it down. And then just instantly deals a bunch of corruption damage to you when it overheats.

holy shit is that the weapon from darktide no one fucking uses?? wow, references!!! i'm basedjakking off!!!

>>529957930
>no one fucking uses
shitter spotted

>>529957930
>Mk VII
True, I use the based Mk I

>>529957930
>>529958113
shovel + plasma gun for the true imperial guard experience

>>529956789
How does he get along with other rejects?

Anybody wanna help salvage my disaster maelstrom?
7380291342

>>529957930
>Rogue Trader
is this shit playable now or should I wait for a couple more hotfixes?

>>529958346
Maul and Bully get along.

>>529956789
male or female veteran ?

they should keep the inferno modifier
it's actually REALLY GOOD

OH MY GOD IT'S A FUCKING TRAIN IT'S LITTERALY A FUCKING STRAIGHT LINE I FUCKING HATE THESE NIGGERS KILL THEM KILL THEM ALL HOW CAN CREATE A THREAD LIEK THIS AND NOT WONDER FOR A SEC "HMM WAIT THAT'S RETARDED" I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE FUCKI THIS WORLD FUCK THESE FUCKING RETARDS

>>529959139
the flamers actually walk while flaming in that, at least the pre-spawned ones

I need another event
I NEED MORE BOXES!

>>529959310
I wonder if he's considered playing at a lower difficulty if he's too smooth brained to figure out the shortest and simplest mission in the game.

>>529959461
Sorry, next event will reward Aquilas.

>>529959310
How... Oh god maybe I am good enough for aurics if these retards can't play that piss easy mission and they play aurics...
Anyway, my favorite part is partaking in the Rite of Concussive maintenance at the end

>>529959680
Oh, that's acceptable too
might be able to get a new arbiter helm...
though I need to keep my comsofficer helm, so maybe a new top?

>>529959310
I keep seeing people in Aurics obviously playing the maps for the first time

>>529959738
People don't realise how fuckign big the % of absolute glue-eaters live in the population.

Game is unplayable on burger servers because of how many dads got the day off

>went back to auric
Snorics. I had 3 bots because it's late at night and even solo I just walked through it while barely trying.

What happened to the anon who tried to get Telopots and his salv friends banned?

Rate :D
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4e8e9c-29d4-4bac-aa7b-c32a2a367ed6/my-personal-arbitrator

Redpill me on the arbites character presets. Which one has the best voice lines.

>800th "knot" joke arbitrator/dog name
I get it already
This is almost as bad as the Dredd spam

>>529958398
Maelstrom has been salvaged. Shoutout to Lex Anon who joined.

>>529946247
Id like a Tech priest class to have a relic/augment system where you could add parts to your body for your abilities.
A bit like the system they used in Dawn of War 2.

>>529960884
>male maul
Pure edge kino, very over the top forced delivery to where it loops back around to being funny. Not all that interesting honestly.
>male fatalist
THE LEX IS THE LEX.
>male whatever the french chinkoid is
Who cares nobody uses it

I think all the female ones except fatalist suck.

>>529960884
Everyone and their mother is running Maul cause it's just judge Dredd
Fatalist is my fav, it's the least autistic one, has actual human like conversations with the rejects
I can't remember what Authoritarian is like, I don't think I've even met one and I just had to google what it was called.

>>529960884
Fatalist (male) is the most "normal" and generally tolerable personality
Authoritarian (male) sounds fuckin stupid but is pretty entertaining, if you like the funny Chinese accent
Maul (male) is a dollar store Dark Knight Batman with some of the best lines, but is unfortunately grating and annoying once you listen to him for more than ten minutes or so
All of the female voices are bland and lacking quality performances.

>Havoc
>Two people go down early
>Third dude immediately quits
We even recovered people are retarded.

When is the ogryn getting fists as a melee weapon
Also holy shit isn't this more damage than the bolter? Isn't it basically an autocannon at this point?

>>529961678
Brass Knuckes would go hard

>>529961678
I want a ripper gun that's has a full melee moveset.

>spend 30 minutes waiting for a havoc match in the party finder
>start mission
>people pull too much aggro and crumple
>one person leaves immediately, another leaves while searching for more players
>repeat
this mode is so fun dude

Just found out you can FOTF mid-air to get back in bounds if you get launched.
Faith truly has no bounds.

>>529961678
>Isn't it basically an autocannon at this point?
Oh I know what you're trying to start you cheeky cunt

>>529961678
Power fist is an Ogryn and Vet weapon.

>>529962384
>Vet
You wish, conscript

>>529960550
>:D
fag, you better not be baiting
also post a screencap of it next time
>curios
Shouldn't need it on arbitrator. If you're bad, try to fit true grit into the build, you're only 2 points away.
Sniper resistance is completely useless if you ju st take true grit. If you're going to take any resistance, 3x gunner, 1x corruption, and AT MOST 1x each of bomber and flamer might be worth considering, but that goes a little into meme territory.
>skill tree
Too heavy on center investment imo. Can afford to drop canine morale. You could easily drop the dog keystone. Dog brittleness is literally useless. Dog elite kill can easily be replaced with the crit node in the keystone. If you're doing any melee, you want target the weak in the bottom right.
Castigator's stance dog damage is completely pointless when you already have execution order. Definitely drop that.
Take walk it off near the top if you think you can afford it. Consider rebreather, it lets you effectively ignore fart clouds and is very comfy. The choice of a wound curio implies that you're struggling, and it's a good crutch.
>weapons
Carapace on the gun seems like a waste of ammo. Why are you shooting carapace when your melee fucking wrecks them anyway? Double carapace in a build also seems silly. I haven't used the revolver much so I can't speak for ideal perks, but I'd test whether maniacs lets you kill trappers and bombers more easily.
I'm not a big fan of maniacs on the melee, but I also fucking hate mutants, so I can see where you're coming from. If it's only there for ragers, drop it. You can flashbang ragers and they won't do anything.

>>529960884
It's hard to tell because even patched they just aren't very verbose and half the time don'thave response lines to other classes.

>>529962036
I haven't even tried havoc because it seemed like the kind of thing where people start yelling at each other

>>529961995
this game is in dire need of hybrid weapons. ripper guns, lasguns with bayonets, eviscerators with combi flamers. there's so much good material.

>>529961678
Eventually, Ogryn still has some semi-official weapons left.

>>529962465
Shut up, plateface. It's the boss' weapon. You can use that stick you've got up your ass if you ever manage to get it out.

>>529962485
>shouldn't need it
shouldn't need a wound*
I had a meme arrow for wound there before I edited it, whoops.

>>529961678
>Also holy shit isn't this more damage than the bolter?
Yes, but it's not as great as you'd think. The bullets don't explode so you don't get the secondary damage from those, also unlike the bolter, the single stubbers are only good for sniping.
Yeah, they have the automatic fire mode but it's really bad. The recoil on the "hipfire" kicks like a mule and then the gun crosshair "blooms" so fucking much that you can't even hit a broad side of a barn with it.
Also the fire rate on the automatic hipfire is really, really slow, feels like the action is jammed up with molasses on most of them so it's genuinely just no useful.

If you want to use it, only use it to click on heads and snipe with it. Don't bother using it for anything else.

>>529962553
Yea, I'd love to have a sword and bolt pistol combo.

>>529957441
He should look like that Dawn of War tech priest at most. Anything more would be overkill.

>>529962939
Nice try, retard.

>>529963185
Yeah haha...he should look like in Dawn of War....

:,(

SW*D*S
HUH! GOOD GOD Y'ALL
WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY...
NOTHING!
UH HUH YEAH

>>529957441
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Reclaimator
>Reclaimators are the the most-skilled and certainly least trusted of the Adeptus Mechanicus' minor ranks of Tech-priests. It is their task to redeem raw materials from old and damaged systems, to scavenge parts and be tasked with the endless cycle of minor repairs needed to keep a starship flying or a hive city’s infrastructure from collapsing under its own weight. By necessity, a Reclaimator’s skills begin to stray into a higher understanding of machinery and technology than most of their brethren and many learn to worship the Machine God in a fragmentary and superstitious manner, marking them apart from their fellows. Reclaimators themselves are often sent into dangerous or unsafe areas with little direct supervision, and they scavenge and salvage a good deal more than their masters know. As a result, most Reclaimators have a well-deserved reputation as suspicious, shifty characters who sell their skills and the items they retrieve or repair for a good profit on the Imperial black market. Many have links to criminal gangs and more than a few are willing to resort to robbery and even murder to build up their spoils if they think they can get away with it.

>>529963509
We do have that hair ingame, at least

Guess who both the deaths were.
Anyway, first auric went well, turns out I was just a bit paranoid last night.

>>529957441
Techpriests like these would be centuries old, like Hadron, and have more important upper echelon jobs to do, while rookie techpriests with only a few cybernetics would be much more expendable/eager to prove themselves in battle.

>>529962485
>needing gunner resistence
ngmi

>>529963509
My guy is kinda inspired on The Priest. I wish we got an actual habit for the Zealot.

>>529963608
Wait, what? They’re the most skilled… but they’re glorified jannies and dumpster divers?

>>529963962
Already made it to true survivor and regularly winning havoc 40s, cope hardstuckie.

>>529964132
>of the Adeptus Mechanicus' minor ranks

>>529962090
No you can’t. Post proof

>>529964218
>needing a baby crutch tool because he keeps standing in the open
anon, I...

Why are plague ogryns so much bigger than normal ogryns

>>529964450
>le crutch
This is why you can't make it out of the 20s.
I can't hear you over the havocs I'm winning.

>>529945840
and sexus lolicus?

>>529964132
Sounds like a Darktide Reject to me

>>529958790
I look like that

IM A BIG BABY AND IM HAPPY YOU CARRY ME

>>529964514
Full of plague
Corpse bloat is pretty gross, they'd smell incredibly bad

>>529956597
A job at Fatshark is the last thing you want I’m pretty sure

>>529964398
nevermind, I rewatched the vid. I landed on a railing across the chasm and then charged back. it wasn't mid-air.

>>529950398
… You’ve never seen that kind of pseudo moe blob mouth in anime before? I guess if you’re not familiar with the quirks of the medium it can be offputting

>>529964514
Lorewise they're bloated with lots of different diseases and toxic gases that's supposed to be released when they die.

>>529962485
>>529962674
>>Curios
>Shouldn't need wound
True, I just snag one for that extra buffer. Helps in case of a stupid trapper snag that catches me unaware into a crowd, I will melt.
>The modifiers
Fair enough, thanks for that idea. I'll just swap in true grit.
>>Skill tree
>Too heavy on center investment
I just like Ammo belt. It's very useful with the shot pistol as you kinda burn through ammo on bosses.
>>WEapons
>Carapace on the gun seams like a waste
Yeah, I personally swapped it for reload, but I might go for maniacs, It's mostly for Snipers, Heavy Gunners (both of which the shield allows me to just stand in sight of and shoot), and bosses.
>Maniacs on melee
That's just personal taste, mostly for mutants rather than ragers as the shield heavy just fucks ragers to no end.

>>529964392
Yeah, but that’s still pretty odd. I would think that title goes to some kind of Skitarii or something.
>>529964638
I guess.

>>529964514
Because Chaos tends to make big things even bigger via the infinite number of mutations and bodily alterations it can give to things. There was a time when a literal statue was turned into some kind of sentient bone mech because it was Chaos corrupted

>>529965286
That guy on the right looks pretty cool

>>529962485
Hows this?

>>529965553
Skitarii are the military arm of the admech
the Reclaimator is an actual tech-priest

>>529964754
If we had the tech for fully VR matrix like vidya Darktide would be borderline unplayable. People would probably projectile vomit after killing the cutting the first pox walker in half and it spraying pus, shit and god (emperor) knows what else all over.

>>529965362
>I just snag one for that extra buffer.
No as in, arbitrator is fucking busted, you shouldn't need one because the class is stupid strong. With dog, trappers are the only tangible threat, so if you play with headphones and without spotify blasting at full volume, you should be able to quickly whip out your gun and dome them before they do anything, hence my suggestion of maniacs on the revolver. Assuming maniacs lets you bodyshot them. It works with bolt pistol.

>>529965972
The keystone +10% damage are additive to your other bonuses, and thus mathematically inferior to just taking soulguilt scan. If you're taking it for the comfy +10% move speed, that's fine, but be aware that you're sacrificing damage potential.
On the right side, I think the single target damage node vs cleave is probably personal preference, but I'd much rather take the cleave when pathing down.
I still don't think the specials/elite dog keystone is worth taking, and since you're not using remote detonation, taking the ranged one isn't a detriment anymore. It increases the leash distance by quite a lot and will make it hunt down gunners and such. I personally prefer to go without either one.

>>529966090
I wonder what Commissar Dukane smells like

>Demons in the physical realm
>one or perhaps multiple chaos sorcerers
>walking pox
>multiple confirmed traders in the nobility
It's incredibly likely the Death Guard has a presence on world or is in contact with the cult in some way. This situation is way too big to be just a small uprising.

>>529966578
She gives me the vibe of someone who oversprays perfume but doesn't bother to wash off the BO first.

>>529965203
NTA, it should have teeth. On both if your images the character looks shocked "huh" "whaat". Which is fitting for your holy niggers blob.
The arby does not look like she's yelling, which she should be. She looks like she's spilling her spaghetti because her pantsu got exposed.

>>529966604
It's not unusual for a couple of chaos marines to be attached to a cult as advisors.

Man, Chasm Logistratum when you drop into the subway tunnels is fucking brutal. My H40 group almost made it through but got stuck at the very end trying to push through a mixed horde to get to a ritual.

>>529966818
Sanctum Redactus on a plague marine when?

>>529966604
>This situation is way too big to be just a small uprising.
Sounds... malicious. Heretical, some might say. Perhaps even damning.

>>529966936
I would love for a Plague Marine to be a big time boss that we can't even kill, only survive. Like the mission ends when we survive his onslaught long enough for Masozi to come by and light him up with the Valkyrie and get us the fuck out of there.

>MANDATED EDICT: SELECTIVE AMPUTATION
What did he mean by this?

>>529967427
Promotion to servitor

>>529966364
This is what I've got my one set up with currently, STRICTLY for the Ruthless Efficiency Penance. Once I'm done with it I'll probably go back to Breaking Dissent and drop Imposing force for Strike Down.
I just basically never use push so drive them back does nothing for me... unless the shield flashbang counts as a push

MANDATED DICK
LEXBREAKERS OWE ME SEX

>>529957930
I mean unless you bought a Krieg skin.

>>529967536
Okay Kerillian, we'll get you back to Kruber soon.

>>529967536
I thought that's what the cyber-mastiff is for

>>529959310
>giving this much of a shit about a reddit thread

You're the reason I go to /v/ less save for Jackbox

>>529967184
I think the problem with the whole space marines are too strong argument is the existence of loyalist ogryns. Given the chance an ogryn can rip a marine to shreds without much difficulty.

>>529966936
They'd have to add a new armour type wouldn't they?

>>529967991
Yea, probably. Might be completely invulnerable on the plates, carapace on the joints.

>play zealot
>have way more fun than with arbeites
is tigrus useable now in havocs?

>>529968261
You must have one hell of a shit arbites build to feel this way

>>529967823
The power scale for this game is kinda fuck no matter how you look at it. Beasts and Chaos Spawn go down without too much effort, all the bosses are rocking essentially Iron Halos, bolters and plasma are way too weak for what they are and autoguns are way too strong. It's all for game balance, but shit's fucked from an in-lore power perspective.

>>529966604
If you told me the ritual in the chapel was to open a portal for the death guard to flood through, I would believe you

>>529969173
Chaos spawn are just a random dice roll of mutations so they shouldn't have a set level of power. As for beasts... I dunno man. Those are runts, or something.

>>529969049
it was copeg who build it for me

>>529967184
Please stop with this dumbass meme.

>>529969394
That was your first mistake

>>529969357
>As for beasts... I dunno man. Those are runts, or something.
desu I would try and argue is that realspace hasn't been weakened enough for them to be properly, or fully, manifested

>Auric cathedral
>Zealot rushes past the first medicae station at 1/2 health
>Dies
>Immediately leaves

>>529959310
To be fair it can be confusing for people new to that map. Plus the different Vox mini-game and having to go back to get power cells kinda sucks.

Honestly they should re-do the map, make it a proper mission, maybe take some inspiration like The Grimrail from Warlords of Draenor (shhh, I love that dungeon), and don't do a "go back through the train thing".

>>529960884
I like Male Authoritarian because he's kinda french and snooty. I get the Maul voice, but he might as well just be Judge Dredd. Fatalist is kinda boring.

Female wise I think the Eastern Euro woman is cute, but that's the only one that stands out.

>>529970440
team bunga

>>529970683
Were you one of the group there lol?
Cause yeah, Team Bunga
2 Ogryn, 2 Arbites, one with crusher one with shield/maul

>>529960978
It's still the first month, it's gonna happen, and renaming is just 50k so they'll have proper names soon enough.

I think there's a few amount of Harrier DuBois as well. I haven't seen a Kim Kitsuragi.

>>529970440
Martyrdom has a lot to answer for, it encourages playing like a dumbass.

>>529970979
God I swear zealot needs ANOTHER tree remake.

>>529961342
How do you hear Chinese? He's clearly french.


Maybe he's Vietnamese

>>529971135
It's not much of a tree at the moment. More of a well beaten path.

>>529962169
NTA but I don't understand. My best guess is trying to piss off Tabletop fanboys saying the Bolter isn't the most powerful thing in the canon.

>>529971135
Well they said zealot was next in line to get a rework

>>529970979
Martyrdom unironically encourages playing like a pro if you aren't a fucking retard. Unfortunately, most people running it are fucking retards.

>>529967184
>I would love for a Plague Marine to be a big time boss that we can't even kill, only survive
Nah if a Plague Marine is a boss our Rejects really wouldn't have a tough time killing them, considering they fight Beasts of Nurgle, Chaos Spawns and Daemonhosts on the daily. If this was a Dark Heresy campaign that'd be game over

>>529971529
It just aint worth it to me, I prefer to play well and have full health the entire time rather than purposefully lower it for a buff.

>>529966936
Make him a jumpscare boss. Like with a proper jumpscare chord and with a very small chance to spawn (save for a mission with a weakened version so people can at least see him once).

Like most bosses aren't that scary, and their music is good but I think we need a proper "OH FUCK" boss.

and for variety, have a Chaos Sorcerer too.

>>529971684
Even in the tabletop games if you bring the right weapon a marine can eat shit pretty hard even to mere mortals.
we almost lost a guy in black crusade to a random guardsmen with a plasma gun, and later on in only war my weapon specialist was a menace so long as nobody got close to me.

Evis, Chainsword, or Chainaxe?
Chainaxe seems like what Eviscerator is supposed to be and I'm not really sure what the sword is for.

>>529971937
>Even in the tabletop games
The tabletop game is an abstraction and separate from the lore.
40k has always been like this, ie. the game and the lore are treated separately and in different ways.

how about this build

Where the fuck is my head sconce slop? Why are the shared sets always guard regiment shit? Give me Cawdor slop!

>>529972283
The point is, a lucky shot with a plasma gun or other heavy or special weapon is quite capable of putting a hole straight through a space marine, Space marines can wreak havoc but half of that is their tactics and training being up there, if some chaos dipshit decides he's going to solo a squad of guardsmen with weapon specialists, rather than act like the highly trained squad based combatant he is he'll *probably* mulch them, but there's always that chance the guy in the back with the plasma gun abruptly puts a stop to that shit.
the lore even has several examples of this sort of thing, one chaos marine ate a krak rocket from an PDF AT squad, couple others got suicide bombed by rival cultists, Space marines are scary but they are not immortal in the slightest and there's plenty of examples of hubris resulting in some random dude far outperforming his point value, and of course there's that famous quote that anyone who underestimates lasguns has never run through a field of a hundred of them, that quote is actually from a chaos marine, bit of a warning not to fuck around because the opponent is apparantly very weak.

>>529972828
Sconce, more like Nonce

>>529972936
Space Marines think they're hot shit until a plasma wielding guardsman dodge slides all their attacks.

>>529972936
>The point is, a lucky shot with a plasma gun or other heavy or special weapon is quite capable of putting a hole straight through a space marine
It's still a space marine, a plasma bolt is only going to tickle at best.
Also this is a plague marine we are talking about, beings who are even more durable and harder to kill than a regular space marine.

>>529973174
Enter the smelly blank with a melta gun

>>529966693
she gives me the vibe of someone who intentionally spills gun oil onto their gear so it looks like they get their hands dirty

>>529973174
Marines have better reaction times than normal humans.
He'd just dome the guardsman before his slide even ends.

>>529973110
What did he mean by this?

>>529973271
A space marine might survive being wounded but there are examples of them being killed outright, what kind of matt ward nonsense is this? plasma tickling? no it goes right through them like any other flesh and blood object, ceremite isn't stopping it, if it hits anything vital then he needs a visit from the apethecary for treatment or geneseed extraction.
Now I will grant you that a plague marine is going to be rougher to put down than a ordinary marine.
>>529973439
This is a genuine concern with marines, they are fast and highly reactive especially for something their size, though the plague marine example is probably less so for obvious reasons.

>>529973439
We're not talking about normal humans. We're talking about rejects. *Shouts the marine to the floor*

>>529973823
I figure the rejects are basically like named characters, so plot armour up the ass until they run into something that stops them dead.

>>529973924
Yea, n+1 poxbursters, probably.

>>529973924
you mean BEWARE YON BARR-

you can kill space marines with characters of a similar power to ours in other games, most notable of which being the actual tabletop
there is no reason to assume it would be a problem in darktide

why must sefoni moan every time i load up the psykhanium?

>>529973823
>We're talking about rejects
Rejects are normie humans.
>but muh gameplay
Not canon. Only the story campaign is.

>>529974521
Darktide has to adhere more to the "canon" than other things because... it just does, okay! Spend hours arguing with me about shit I don't really believe because I am lonely!

The thing you gotta remmember about the player charaters is they are the 1% or the 1%, the rejects you don't see have godawful attrition that would make a valhallan general blush, the PC by their nature of being the PC is one of the very few who stubbornly keeps surviving to the point that they kinda are peritheral agents of the inquisition instead of just utter cannon fodder.

>Dredd
>Havoc 23
>Auric Storm Survivor
Oh boy I'm sure he's going to carry this maelstrom!

>>529912735
>tfw STILL no 2 handed chain axe
FUCK YOU FARTSHART GIMME

Mortis Trials on late night EU server are the best because it's full of third worlder slavs and they'll ALWAYS complain about nade ogryn spam and they often disconnect/crash when things get wild becasue the toaster they run the game on can't handle the heat. You sometime can spot them lookign at the wall like desperate cucks

My rejects can kil about 4 daemonhosts per game. Space marines are cooked.

My journey for a successful true survivor pug continues, today i shook things up and paused my supportmaxxxing zealot to try and do it with my LEXXMAN
This resulted in the friendly psyker never making it past the first 20% of the mission without eating dirt.
I'm sure all this practice will make me a better player anyways, i'll keep you guys posted.
And big thanks to the zealot support chad who took the time to post his build, that shit does good work

>>529976176
>still nade spamming in snortis trials
you're just as bad if not worse

>the "combat puzzle"
I fucking hate you so much

what skill to use even as arbites
shield slam is pretty ehh given all other sources of stagger or even mass stagger
speaker usually does nothing as all enemies melt anyway

>>529976468
seethe more, Ivan ;-)

>>529972020
Chaxe > Evi >>>>>>>> Chainsword

>>529977479
True fax
Arbites should have gotten the chaxe

castigator is just too good

>>529977479
Chaxe is on my shit list because it goes *thunk* when it hits something. I want to hear the shredding.
It's fantastic otherwise.

>>529976068
Never mind, he was actually unga.

>>529976498
Break the line is a mobility tool that you can use to dodge away from trappers, run through lakes of fire, maneuver through a dense horde you would otherwise have to waste time meleeing, and interrupt charging mutants (assuming the director isn't spamming half a dozen of them at you anyway). It also knocks enemies on their asses, and gives you a toughness + stamina refill. It's extremely fast paced and very fun, and would be my default choice.

Castigator's stance is boring, but powerful. It's probably the best one if you are point starved and have just that one point to spare, since it does all of its most useful shit right out the gate. I find it to be very disappointing because it doesn't make you interrupt immune and is thus questionably useful for doing objectives. The damage res is incredible for getting a revive off, but against ranged attackers I'd rather be sliding, and in melee arbites should be nigh unbeatable anyway. Take this with a grain of salt though, because I will not let go of my shield, because the flashbang solves a fuckload of problems I'd otherwise stance up for.

Aquila is currently bugged to give more damage resistance than it should, and is incredibly strong until that is fixed. Once fixed, it's probably not going to be much better than mediocre, but it's likely still the best choice in coordinated teams (think havoc) that actually get to use all of its effects properly. It's extremely awkward and borderline useless with rando pubbies that spread out and play single player in each corner of the map.

>TL;DR
Try break the line and at least take the range increase, cooldown reduction can be considered optional. It's the most fun.

>>529978178
>It's extremely awkward and borderline useless with rando pubbies that spread out and play single player in each corner of the map.
Randoms don't use their abilites.

>>529977479
>>529978026
Please explain how to use chain axe, I've only had bad experiences with it.

>>529977589
Fatshark will add a single (already available) weapon to arbitrator whenever they need to pad their next sad excuse for a patch with "content"

>>529978447
>Randoms don't use their abilites.
You're correct, but I meant it more in the sense of
>you have nuncio
>you put it down
>randos make a concerted effort to walk outside of it
>if they're even here
>let's not kid ourselves, at least two of your retards are scouring every last corner of the map for 20 plasteel while the third guy is probably netted somewhere
I farmed my penance by using it in elevators and airlocks because they couldn't dodge it there.

>>529978590
Arbitrator will never get another free weapon. Only as part of future weapon packs.

>>529978590
>smal enemy
spam sideways lights
>big enemy
overhead heavy oneshot
>even bigger
engage special and tear a hole in their health bar

>>529966604
All of those things have happened and been present on planets before any kind of CSM presence was noted. What Admonition has shown thus far if anything is pretty pathetically weak for a cult that’s supposedly been rooted in Tertium for such a time.
>>529967184
>Masozi
No. But otherwise yes! It would be cool to hammer that idea home for once.
>>529967823
That argument doesn’t really hold water because while Ogryns are physically stronger than Space Marines, A Space Marine would still usually beat one in a fight and is generally a more devastating fighting force. Why? Because they can effectively use just about anything you put in their hands as a weapon, move way faster than them, are usually able to be equipped with things like jump packs, can actually plan and strategize on a very effective level, etc, an SM can only really lose to an Ogryn if they’re stupid enough to try to fist fight it head on or not actively be keeping their distance from one
>>529969173
>Beast and Chaos Spawn
Like was explained last thread they don’t operate on base levels of power, lots of things can affect how powerful they are when they ‘spawn in’, the amount of punishment one of them can take is kind of impressive but it’s clear ours are on the weaker side
> all the bosses are rocking essentially Iron Halos
You mean refractor friends. Which aren’t terribly uncommon. Iron Halos are high tier Imperial equipment and literally mind rape people who get too close
>bolters
I’d say they feel appropriate
>plasma
Yeah, agreed there
>>529972936
All of this is pretty much true. Although I will put more emphasis on the “lucky shot”. Even if said shot managed to land, SM’s are literally built to survive heavy damage and keep fighting well past beyond the point they should logically be able to. That’s the point of their redundant organs and things like the “iron (not literally) bones”. At the very least it’d be a Pyrrhic victory unless it’s literally 1000s

>>529920396
A bit like Bonnie, eh? Which is fine, she was a total bro. Would have a beer and watch a game with, or shoot cops and/or heretics .

>>529978590
Chax has two varients, your basically picking which way around the hordeclear and single targets are, light or heavy, I like the one where the light attacks are the left right sweeps and the heavy is overheads, other than that it works like any other weapon, throw your obligatory blessings on and it'll mulch most things, and you can rev up for really big enemies.
is it the best? no but it's probably the best of the chain weapons.

>>529978998
Who's this tranny tripfag?

>>529978884
in the universe of 40k if you lose 90% of your guard squad but the marines die doing it, thats a worthy trade.
Really thats a huge failure on the marines part, they are a MASSIVE investment per man and this goes double for chaos who have serious issues replenishing their numbers.

>>529974521
>you can kill space marines with characters of a similar power to ours in other games
Such as?
>most notable of which being the actual tabletop
Well yeah, because they need to factor in balancing and shit, hence why tabletop is usually ignored when talking about this kind of thing except for when to give a general idea of where they might stand in certain things
The topic was a Chaos Space Marine anyway. Pretty different. Especially when it’s a Death Guard who are especially tanky.
>>529975808
Correct. We have in game dialogue confirming this too. It’s really just a matter of flavor text to hype up the player, but we could also be interchangeably replaced as one of those people contributing to the “current attrition rate” Rannick complains about when we eat shit on our runs.

>>529920346
gz, anon!
>>529929475
pretty decent fashiontide, the psyker looks badass

>>529979525
Gaunt tanked a traitor marine in a duel until his guardsmen lasgunned him to death. If they had a plasma it would go even faster.

>>529970652
>>529949408
>because he's kinda french and snooty.
no he’s not. stop saying this

>>529978823
>smal enemy
I've found that it just doesn't deal with mixed hordes at all. Any armor in the crowd just makes the thing bounce off, and ragers ruin my day.
>big enemy
Don't feel like they die fast enough, even with strength stacks up.
>even bigger
Only die with thrust or the FotF "bug" or something, and the stupid special locks you in place long enough for the crusher behind the one you're targeting to just nail you into the ground.
Monstrosities will have knocked you away before you've even finished building thrust, never mind letting you fully finish the attack.

>>529979091
Yeah, the blue one, like the other anon talked about. It does seem to be more generally useful. Maybe I just don't get the weapon and should simply use it more until I do, or exclusively run it on FotF or stealth zealot or something, Idk.

>>529979525
>Such as?
rogue trader
> hence why tabletop is usually ignored
kill yourself you autistic nigger I piss in your face

>>529979423
daemonculaba :^)

>>529979932
That project was overall a failure and was never widespread amongst the traitor legions, hell I'm pretty sure it was only a single warband using them at all.

>>529966693
this is a lot of women i’ve come to realize

>>529921850
>>529928683

>>529978884
>Tertium
Not just Tertium, but also whatever the planet the rebellion was on that the 5th got taken to.
It's a multi-planet cult, with multiple sorcerers, a full guard regiment, and a walker plague. The fact the Daemonhosts are as weak as they are is proof that they have no idea what they're doing.
If the sorcerers had a single fucking clue, we'd have plaguebearers, nurglings, and possibly even a GUO wandering around.

>>529980275
The Moebian Domain is a bunch of stuff within spitting distance of each other, meaning people don't need navigators to get between them which makes that sort of cult far easier to become a problem across multiple worlds.
Maybe someday we'll get missions on the other planets so we can stare at something other than this damn hive city.

>>529928683
I look like every other guy in the Mourningstar

>>529980572
Yeah arbites don't have much veriaty and I have no idea what they're even going to give them for future cosmetics.
They don't have a huge amount of stuff and red recolours are ass.

>>529978447
>Randoms don't use their abilites.
This is extremely painful as a psyker waiting for piss shout or prayer. Like I'm at least halving your cooldown. Stop waiting for the perfect opportunity, use it.

>>529978998
>Bonnie mention
>It's a namefag
She was my PD2 pick when Wolf stopped getting new lines. No one else ever played as her and I thought her voice was pleasant.

>>529976459
i got my true survivor by complete accident lol

>>529975070
she's a mind-reader on a ship filled with pent-up military men and not a moment of privacy and she's gonna make it your problem

>>529976459
Godspeed. I'm trying the same thing. So far, my teammates have been eating shit

>>529975808
one thing i miss about being new and bad and playing with bad players was loading into a heresy mission, picking out which teammates had the slightest bit of a clue, and sticking with them while the rest of the team died over and over

felt very thematic

>>529928683
Karken hell the Mourningstar stinks since those mastiffs showed up

>>529976459
>And big thanks to the zealot support chad who took the time to post his build, that shit does good work
Any time, friend. Yeah, it's become my comfort build. The skill set needed to execute well is just that you pay attention, and paying attention doesn't stress me out as much as needing to have eyes in the back of my head AND having to rely on others to do something, like when playing psyker. On zealot, wipes are only likely to happen when someone just fucks off for some retarded reason. Anything else is just going to be my fault, and I trust myself to prevent a wipe a whole lot better than I'd trust randos.

>This resulted in the friendly psyker never making it past the first 20% of the mission without eating dirt.
And that's precisely why I've stuck with support zealot in high havocs that I actually want to win. People in this game tend to be the worst at paying attention to their surroundings, using their abilities correctly or often enough, and making the correct decision on when to horde clear, so trusting another zealot to actually use their kit correctly almost always leads to disappointment. I only generally trust psykers to do their job right, because having the courage to play the glass cannon class in the tryhard sweat mode already implies confidence, and likely earned, because making mistakes on psyker just outright kills you. And even then I sometimes get pissbabies that won't leave their bubble.
I think the next best class for the purpose of keeping the team relatively safe is likely ogryn with taunt, but after going on an 8 game loss streak I decided to shitcan the class because it really felt like it requires that the token piss toughness user actually knows how to play, and I've gone on about how they usually don't often enough. I still don't know how much of that was my fault, but I sincerely doubt I'm responsible for the situations where I've held massive armor blobs for minutes on end and nobody did anything about it.

>>529982236
>khrrghn hl mrrnngsthh sschhnks sssnss thozzz mffths shhhd uphh

>>529982236
What do you mean? the dogs are clean and...
*SNIFF*

Masozi escaped her cage again...

>>529982619
Yeah yeah. Just puff those flames around the dispenser.

>>529982718
kek

>>529982718

ded general

>>529987478
It is 6 am in India. The Indians will be waking up soon, saar.

>Rando dies to a crusher overhead
>"omg guys don't ignore elites"
How about you learn how to DOOOOOOOODGE!

My Arbitrator build is the most superior build. All of you have pee pee poo poo builds in comparison.

I wonder, has there ever been heretic arbitrators?

>>529979423
I don’t get what you’re trying to say. I’m saying that the odds would have to be stacked significantly in the Guards favor for it to be debatable. Assuming you’re arming them fairly and not all giving them like, hotshot lasguns.
>>529979710
I don’t doubt it. I’m not saying a plasma gun wouldn’t do anything. Just that it’s exceedingly difficult. There are plenty of quotes and stories where Marines take extensive damage and still manage to remain somewhat combat viable.
>>529979882
>rogue trader
How? If you mean all that shit with Abaddon that’s clearly not something on the rejects level and is factually well above it. That game falls into its own category of special
>kill yourself you autistic nigger I piss in your face
Melty
>>529980275
Yeah, although of course, I’m sure if this game was in the hands of a company that could move the story along faster than a single new mission a year, we might well see that kind of stuff, but that’s just speculation, what we have indicates they’re a very rag tag kind of group, although somewhat competent enough to avoid detection on some level I guess.

>>529989636
>what we have indicates they’re a very rag tag kind of group, although somewhat competent enough to avoid detection on some level I guess.
Honestly, I think Atoma just has a shitty Adeptus Administratum.

>Join havoc 29
>"Play safe team don't rush"
>Whenever something spawns the host retreats as far as possible
>Unimaginable levels of hand holding, my longest game by far
I know you have to play as a team but some people are fucking terrified lmao.

>>529989636
It's very normal for a squad of guardsmen to have two guys in there with specialist weapons like plasma guns, the potential for them to be oneshot is there and I think you've been reading too much Matt Ward who writes random marines like they're fucking custodes.
Space Marines are powerful but there's a world of difference between battle brother dipshitius and Titus who mulches entire hive fleet splinters between his biceps with only three men.

>>529920503

>>529989878
traumatized by all of the perfectly good missions detonated because one person did something retarded a single time

>>529935463
And I stand corrected

>>529935453
NGL, that's why I think from the leaks (next class is nicknamed 'broker' in the files) that it's a ganger.

>>529993068
>add space cop
>immediately add space criminal
I don't think they can get away with this

>>529993352
the arbites class was labeled as ‘adamant’ and there was a sixth class labeled as ‘broker’.
Options include
Ganger: The one we have on crew currently, Swagger, was named Broker before Clandestine Gloria was released
Or Kroot: Killbroker and, more accurately a farstalker Kinband of Kroot mercs.

>>529993352
Are we not already all space criminals?

>>529960978
The consequences of failing to gatekeep furries are dire and irreversible

>>529993809
That's when we'll get the messed up colored hair

>>529993809
I AM ADAMANT
I AM BROKER

Why don't other games compare?
Why is there a VRAM leak?

I miss ogryn
Arbites kills just a bit slower so all it takes to ruin the fun is 1 bolter tranny unloading into everything

Don't care named my dog BAUBAU

>>529996802
Based haeh

>>529996802
senko here

>>529996802
Rex for me.

So it's true... Eurochads rule this thread...

>>529997813
But that's my dog's name

>>529996802
I named mine cat :p

>>529989790
I suppose that’s plausible too. It is a pretty backwater sector from how we’ve seen it portrayed, it’s definitely possible they just started slacking off and getting too complacent.
>>529990163
I know that Guardsmen carry plasma guns, but it’s normally limited to usually a handful of people who have experience with them like you say.
>one shot
Nah, not unless you’re talking about like, a square, head on shot to the head without their helmet, in which case yes, there is *potential* but I don’t think I need to explain how unlikely landing that shot is before the hypothetical Space Marine closes in and starts mulching them unless again, this is literally hundreds of guardsmen concentrating fire on the guy from hundreds of feet away.
If you really want, I can go grab some quotes about Space Marines surviving gruesome injuries that should have logically killed them. Ward isn’t the only one to write them with extreme endurance, but both interpretations are technically valid, so just calling out his name as a derogatory disqualifier in this context doesn’t mean much, even if I’m inclined to agree with doing that on most other things.

>>529993809
>Kroot
They would be wasted here so I doubt it, their main schtick is unavailable because Nurgle stuff is gross and dangerous (and also they’re space marine level)

>make 40k game
>can customize your dude
>every piece of gear is operatorslop
>nothing gothic or religious in the slightest
nicely done fartshart

>>529998318
The new not-saltzpyre zealot outfit is good though
it made me finally use the good goy preorderbucks i've been sitting on for two years

>>529998318
Half the zealot outfits have lit candles on them, man. You are a junkie who has stopped feeling a dose that would be quite high for a normal person.

I want them in my Darktide, mr modder, pls
>captcha: PLAP

>>529995750
I still play my Ogryn. What's wrong?

>>530000210
>I ever tell you about the time I barrel'd my buddy Keith?
>Went right over the edge and fell through 20 hab levels

>>529998992
Yes, that's why I play warhammer games
>>529998685
I guess
Still, I need more

>>530000000
lol

>>530000210
>Ellis - Zealot
>Coach - Ogryn
>Rochelle - Psyker
>Nicolas - Veteran

Smash
next question

>>530001373
I wish it didn't have the baldspot desu

just how fucking far can a plague ogryn throw you off with its charge holy fucking shit man one just straight up dunked me all the way to china

>>530001505
yeah this game is ridiculously cartoonish with its physics like it takes place in the looney tunes universe

>>530001472
You take what you can get with hairstyles, most of them are shit and it's a total crapshoot if it's going to interact wierd with a given headgear.

>>529996802
Mine is named after my dog.

>>529996802
I named him Spud, because he looks like a spud.

>>530000210
What would their 40k names be?

shattering impact or shrapnel for Rumbler? or both and ditch the adhesive shot?

>>530000210
You know I haven't seen much in the way of modelsweapping in darktide.

>>530002696
neither
blaze away

>>530002210
cute dog bwo

>>530001505
I mean, look at the size of them. Imagine getting rammed by that. Seems pretty reasonable

staring at the mission board for 20 mins cause this maelstrom sucks

best arbitrator melee weapon?

>>530004861
The arbiters beating stick if your more offensive, the beating stick and shield if your more defensive.

>>530004861
>>530004947
Are these weapons just straight up better than the weapons of other classes? I feel like I stagger shit way easier with both of them and kill faster.

>>530004861
Shield maul.
Bonk + IMPERVIOUS TO DAMAGE!
>>530005070
They're slightly weaker than the ogryn club or club+shield, but only slightly

>>530005187
I think he means the cross-class weapons arbie has access to, and yes they're generally better though I've seen some people do shit with the old shock maul

I like the dog but it gets kind of annoying to see it fly across the screen all the time
Fucking hate the 'pin 8000 million snipers trappers bombers with the dog" penance too, since the dog is off fucking around and all those enemies are like instant kill for 99% of the players

>>530005668
It's an easy penance
I got it in about 10 missions.

>>530005742
I wish it were for me
Also does anyone have an issue with dog tagging? Sometimes it just won't do it for me

>>530004861
The Arbitrator Shock Maul is the best weapon IF you are playing with a good team who know what they're doing and are communicating with Microphones.

The Shield is the best weapon IF you are playing with randoms.

Even with a good team / friends though, I'd use the Shield because it's still an exceptionally powerful weapon and it's Alt Attack makes up for everything when shit goes wrong. It will stagger absolutely everything. Give you breathing room. Let you get free revives even on Havoc.
Easily my favorite weapon and if Fatshark nerf it, I am going to kill myself.

>>530005805
Swap the setting over to single ping
It won't attack damonhosts don't worry

>>530005952
>Swap the setting over to single ping
you can do that?

>>530005973
Yes lol. It was the first thing I checked in options when I saw dog ping was two clicks.

>auric story version of a mission
Fuck. Off. I'm so tired of the same easy spawns.

I seriously hope arbitrator's banter is bugged and isn't just this

>>530004861
They are all honestly pretty strong, but the arbites shock maul is probably the strongest

>>530006670
Yeah, it's pretty boring.

I'm only really happy with how my ogryn, arbitrator, and zealot look. I think I need to change my veteran to male because the Cadian tanker gear looks weird on the female body. Not even including my psyker since she's just wearing commissary gear because I barely ever play psyker.

>>530007196
Nice Dirty Harry you've got there anon.

>There is Only War™!

>dog side of the tree plus forceful
>castrator's stance
>true grit
>literally just can't feel a fucking thing at any given time
>damage taken, almost nothing, every single time
lol, lmao even

>>529998685
I pigged out for that set using the aquila from buying the imperial edition + the aquila you got from a recent event
2 years sitting on those 2500 aquila, never once thought of buying anything
but oh my fucking emperor, that zealot set is so good I had to get it

>>530009313
Chills everytime… bravo James…

JAMES WOKESLOP!
GIVE ME SEXY WOMEN!

>>530005253
The good old shock maul has a much better weapon special than the arbites maul. You can straight up punch through a bulwark's shield with it, since it stunlocks them.

I need to make a costume for my vet, but I need to play her at all, I wanna get her to look like one of the Mobians... it's just a bit of work I don't wanna do rn.

>There is Only War™ in this Dark Heresy™ of the enemy's Black Crusade™ that we Deathwatch™ from out Rogue Trader™ vessel.

>>530013235
Good post. Good image. Make more like this. :)

>>530012772

>>530014758
You're missing one

>>529929475
The new psyker drip reminds me of Marshall Zhukov from The death of Stalin for some reason

>>530016045

>>530015307
Ruined it

is it me or the trappers on havoc 40 are straight up bullshit levels

>>529929664
my genoux are lowering on their own !

>>529916024
Seriously the devs could just take darktide reskin the player characters to be generic chaos dudes who could spec into different worship but have them fight Planetery defense forces, Imperial guard, (later on in the game) some mecanicus detachments and maybe the random zealot band roaming around could make for a decent mix of enemies to fight. Objective wise it could be doing what the traitors in-game were doing taking over power plants, water purifcation units and bringing daemons around to corrupt more parts of the city.

>>529915092
Give up Rebreather.

>>529928701
Arbites>Psyker>Ogryn>Zealot>Vet
You underestimate how retarded Arbites players are so it looks like they perform similarly. I haven't taken more than 20 damage in the last 20 games and I have an average damage of 550k with top frag boss damage. Maybe you're retarded too, idk.

>lvl 700 vet
>this is what he settled for

Eviscerator
>slowly tearing through a horde
>crusher walks up
>engage rev up
>strike
>F
>kill the crusher
>take a few hits during the animation
Relic Blade
>annihilating the horde
>a bunch of heavy armor walks up
>engage force field
>start swinging like a retard
>crushers, maulers and 34 ragers I didn't even notice in the crowd get cut in half
>kill 6 gorillion surrounding poxwalkers while doing that
>all while dodging
Very cool, fatshark. I don't miss my Eviscerator at all.

>>530021426
Yeah but relic blade is lame, uncool, not crescent fresh.

>>530021406
Dangerously based.

>Haven't played since shortly after Auric was added as a Damnation modifier
>Come back for Arbites
>Damnation is piss easy with one special spawn every minute
>Auric is absurdly hectic with constant specials pouring out of the walls and spawning out of the floor behind you
>So many sounds going on at once that enemies stop playing their hit sounds leading to eating hits
>Inputs randomly get dropped when trying to switch weapons or switch to grenades leading to eating hits
>Look up Havoc gameplay to see how much worse it is
>There are significantly fewer specials and hordes are less dense than what I am seeing in game on Auric
Am I getting Fatsharted right now? What am I missing?

>>530024169
>There are significantly fewer specials and hordes are less dense than what I am seeing in game on Auric
This is not true
Density is exactly the same as auric with same modifiers, except in havoc you get 3-4 modifiers and auric has often 2, so havoc actually can have higher density.
Every single recording of havoc gameplay is lucky assignment with easy spawns. They don't upload runs they lost, it's that simple.
Even with lower intensity havoc mobs have inflated hp and hit mass though so havoc hordes are harder to clear with melee.