TOOOOONKING edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>530034875

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Aliens: Fireteam Elite
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Felinid when? >:3c

>>530110372
>I just find that Castigator's is much better for playing with shitters because "OH FUCK" moments happen more often.
I'll take your word for it, because I've only played h40 arbitrator with established groups where this didn't really happen, but do you have any specific examples for how it's useful in a way that BTL isn't? I don't ever want to find myself under gunner fire, and if I do, I'm sliding out of it or flashbanging them with shield. I assume it's for getting a res off, or standing in fire while cornered, but neither of those are safe even with stance up either. BTL beats every melee situation, also gives you toughness, and lets you dodge flames and trappers, so I've always figured it was vastly superior in all but a handful of niche situations that I'd rather avoid even occurring in the first place.

>>530111234
nta but I think BTL is actually better because it gives shitters more breathing room. Stops them from getting overwhelmed in the first place. BTL + shield gives you so much CC you can save your team quite easily from crusher/rager or whatever swarms.

>>530111176
never, you will enjoy being a lanky eldari and eat it

>>530111427
Yeah that's exactly what I've been doing on my dog build, and it's pretty wonderful.

>>530111512
I wish they added Aeldari

>>530111234
Just being overwhelmed in general. I know Flashbang Shield and BTL can also solve this problem, but Castigator's is a guaranteed survival. And if you fuck up, which happens or if you just get unlucky, Castigator's will again guarantee your survival. It also stays on if you get grabbed, netted etc.
BTL is insanely powerful though and in a lot of situations, better. But I like to personally build for the worst possible situation because I can deal with most everything else on my own,.

>>530105929
>>530106426
Bro, this is Kharn...
I mean fuck there's a 2nd pic of him with his dick bulge in the camera.

>>530111626
The short cooldown is amazing. BTL -> flash x2 and by then BTL is off-cooldown again.

>>530111981
Oh yeah bro? Where is it?

>>530111981
Prove it.

>>530112140
>>530112146
k

>>530111846
Interesting. I disagree with your preference to take stance for reasons previously discussed, but I can see where you're coming from, thanks for taking the time to explain.
I definitely respect it a lot in the context of shotgun builds taking the support nodes, but I can't seriously bring myself to use that gun with its atrocious sprint speed.

>>530112039
Never mind the addictive amounts of mobility you get from just using BTL to cross more distance or to swim through hordes blocking your way. It's like if ogryn bull rush were spammable.

>>530111703
It’s too big a leap right now.
Sexy cat ladies first

>>530111176
Never. Felinid has never not once had any kind of official art of them. Ever.
Do you honestly think Fatshark will be the one to give them their official appearance?

>>530112262
Would

>>530111981
>>530112262
Slaaneshi propaganda. Kharn would dress or act like this

>>530112304
>:3c

>>530112346
Same.

>want to play Dog Build
>but also really like melee
>the combination of both is insanely point heavy
>really want to choose Break The Line
>Break the Line also requires an insane investment, at least two points after the first point to get it
>really like having the four toughness nodes around shield plates and walk it off
>feels insanely comfy on havoc
>kinda want dog bleed because it's meant to be a dog build and it instantly applies max stacks of bleed on pounce making it insane damage increase for dog, but it's way too far out of the way
>end up being forced to ignore that so I can make my build work
>now it's basically just a generic melee build and dog kinda just exists

>>530112935
Is this too light on melee damage talents for your taste? The only node I'm really missing is soulguilt, but you could sub out the point in rebreather for it, or ditch the cooldown reduction in BTL, or both.
Can obviously go the other aura if you ditch canine morale, but that's kind of a major reason to bring the dog, and I don't value the +10% damage (additive btw) nearly as much as 27% constant TDR.

>>530112935
you don't need to put the two points into BTL, if you're trying to get toughness back from BTL you built arbites wrong, especially dogbites

>>530113363
Why bother fully loading up BTL? If yo uwere running Forceful with the strength increase, I'd get it 'cause the CDR would make sense there, but it really doesn't need any extra nodes.

>>530112935
>Break the Line also requires an insane investment, at least two points after the first point to get it
It requires no investment at all

>>530112935
An anon in the previous thread had a Dog Build using Castigator's Stance you could probably rework to be good.

Probably something like this...?

>>530113367
I assumed he wanted the two point for cooldown reduction? I know Execution Order has Cooldown reduction too but hey, can never hurt being able to spam this shit.

>>530112935
I got you
You won't miss the other blessings. Put confident strike on it and you won't need or even miss the other toughness talents

>>530113507
>Why bother fully loading up BTL?
The range increase. It makes a big difference for crossing distances, especially rushing through lakes of fire. The cooldown reduction is right there for just one point, and lets me do >>530112039 basically constantly.

I agree with >>530113367 on the point of toughness, but the margin for error in havoc is pretty slim, and it serves as a nice safety tool nonetheless. I value consistency over peak performance, and this build can theoretically afford to take all of the multiplicative damage nodes for maximum bang per buck, while only giving up a handful of additive damage nodes that aren't all that important, or gimmicky.

>>530113363
How good is target the weak actually? Would it be okay to swap it for go get em?

>>530113860
>How good is target the weak actually?
Very.
>Would it be okay to swap it for go get em?
No, you ditch rebreather or BTL cdr for that, and even then I'd rather have soulguilt instead, because letting the dog off the leash makes it take significantly longer to pounce the correct target for remote detonation. Go get em is good, I prefer to run without.

>>530113860
After having played to Havoc 40 with a Dog Build, I'm actually not a fan of Go Get Em. The damage increase is useless. The real reason to choose it is that it increases it's agro range by about 3 times and it'll start to mainly target range, but it also counts pleb trash as ranged as long as they have a gun, so it'll ignore a line of gunners, reapers etc. for some random group of trash.
I prefer to use my own pinging.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>530114096
that sounds like it's going to get patched, assuming they ever find out about it

>all these anons getting Razor-Jaw Augment
Is that shit even worth it? I know it gets a bunch of bleeds up instantly on anything it pounces, but it can only hit a single enemy at a time. Maybe that's good for lower level difficulties, but wouldn't it be better to put points into your OWN damage or survivability instead?????

>>530113363
>keeping protocol
but h'why?
Monstrosities aren't even an issue. They do barely any damage. You can block 90% of what they can do.
The only real bosses of note are the captains, which again can be blocked. But your dog can't mount them, so it does less damage, making it a more worthwhile talent, that is, if it counted towards them, which it doesn't.
So why?

>>530114457
>but it can only hit a single enemy at a time
lol
you know how your dog bounces a bunch of enemies around when he leaps through the air?
8 stacks on all of them, and for some reason 16 stacks on anything he takes to the floor, which means with razor jaw your dog's killing potential on anything smaller than an ogryn jumps through the roof, meaning more pounces more often

>>530114457
It has a small radius attached to it, that is just large enough to kill clown cars of gunners. It also seems to count for the entire flight path of your canine ICBM, so when you send that shit flying through a conga line of enemies, they all start bleeding.
It applies a fuckload of bleed stacks on anything it hits, and thus significantly increases the dog's damage.
The dog can solo monstrosities with it. Likely faster than your randos with their useless builds.
The only downside to razor jaw augment is that it's currently bugged and doesn't have any kill attribution, meaning it will sometimes not trigger any related talents.

>>530114664
>So why?
I also take this build into maelstroms, and randos would wipe to bosses if I don't kill them in seconds. That's the main reason.
in havoc, it's a little less important, but I have learned to fear corridor burgles, and would rather not let them become a problem. Remote detonation helps a lot, but it doesn't solve the problem entirely. But you're right in considering it a flexible point. That one would definitely want to go into soulguilt instead.

okay I tried the build the anon gave to me last thread for the psyker, its okay but damn brain burst feels so slow to me now but thats probably me not playing psyker for a long time should i switch to assail

>>530114847
Fair enough. And yeah, I can see it being worthwhile with random idiots.

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Since it seems I got a bunch of Arbitrator anons here - is the Cooldown Reduction on Break the Line (Targeted Brutality) worth it if I have Execution Orders Malocator?

I'm kinda point heavy and wouldn't mind dropping some points for more utility.

How good is dogless Arbitrator?

>>530114962
>should i switch to assail
In the tone of the autist in the previous thread, but actually serious this time, not bringing psykinetic aura is the closest thing you can do to griefing with a psyker build, and assail locks you out of it. Be aware of that.
>but should I?
Absolutely, it's pretty fun. Make sure you take the cleave to the right of the auras, it applies to assail. Empowered psionics is also a given, and stick with the elite kills one, it lets you completely shit on an infinite amount of ragers. Just make sure you bring actual anti armor in your weapon slots, because assail is worthless against it.

>>530115207
How much do you value 20-30 pocket smites per mission?

>>530115196
>is the Cooldown Reduction on Break the Line (Targeted Brutality) worth it if I have Execution Orders Malocator?
Yes, because more is more better. It reduces the window in which enemies have the opportunity to do anything because you keep shoving them to the ground. Is it worth it over multiplicative damage nodes? Depends on how much you value damage. Keystone crit, soulguilt, and target the weak should probably be in every such build just because of how the math works out for them.
If I could pick only one of CDR or range increase, I'd always take the range increase.

>gunlugger ogryn double dipping the ammo box

>>530115207
It's good. But I find the utility of it not being there not worth it.
Dog will kill random guys sneaking up on you. Get you out of dog pounce. Can stun everything outside of a Boss or Monstrosity or even those if you have Remote Detonation.

>>530115135
>SNORTY MORTY
Geg

>>530115515
Double dip the ammo box is the most nigger thing you can do in this game.

>>530115468
>range increase
Really? I've never been in a situation that really warranted increased range over basically halfling the cooldown.

>>530115207
Very strong with or without

>>530115135
wtf why the hate for dorn :(

>>530115670
>your retarded teammate went down
>a bomber/flamer just blocked your path
>they're about to bleed out, if only you could get there in the next 3 seconds
BTL through that shit, barely take any damage, survive any resulting chip damage from reviving the guy because you didn't have to stand in the fire.
Same deal for your feet getting cooked and just getting out of there.
I actually feel that the cooldown is fine without the cdr node (with execution order ofc), though I obviously prefer taking both. I don't regret dropping soulguilt for it, but maybe I'll try >>530114664 suggestion to drop the 30% to monstrosities in favor of soulguilt and see how that works out.

PUT THE KARKING BOOT IN!

>>530113363
No Weight of the Lex? It's right there.

>>530115135
The more I look at this the more I agree with it. That said I can’t decide if I like or hate Perty for being so spiteful and going to such lengths to show it.

>Rank 26 smigger in havoc 35

>>530116615
Didn't have points for it. Is worse than alternatives.
Weight of the lex is additive damage, so it's mathematically inferior to soulguilt and just clicking heads, so that would take priority.
If moving multiple points around in that build, it would be my next choice. It is very good.
That said, I'm actually not 100% sure whether the keystone crit, soulguilt, or weight of the lex comes out to more damage, but I have a feeling they're all very, very close. On this build, I chose crit over soulguilt because I won't always be hitting heads.

What the fuck first a device crash then a disconnect

>>530116905
Then I join another game it's just bots

Are there breakpoints for Toughness Damage Reduction???

I don't know if I have enough or if that's even a thing?

Is it possible to move the "+50" from the gold toughness so it doesn't overlap with my ult indicator?
Also can I remove the "[F]" under the ult indicator?

The new mission board is atrocious to look at and the "reworked" difficulty tiers is dumb as fuck now all the glue-eaters who were too retarded to know about the auric page in the first place are going there without ezven knowing how to push a fucking poxwalker I hate sweden I hate the swedes and I want this country nuked to glass

>>530117123
>Are there breakpoints for Toughness Damage Reduction???
No relevant ones that I can think of, and it's difficult to quantify because most forms of damage reduction stack multiplicatively.
A quick google search found a plebbit post that might help answer your question: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/18pv08c/As far as I'm aware, small toughness damage reduction nodes in the skill trees stack additively (this is mathematically superior for damage reductions, meaning the more of those nodes that you take at the same time, the more effective they are, but ultimately the impact is relatively minor because we simply don't have enough of them)

>>530115208
I think I’ll stick to having psyk aura because its too valuable combined with cooldown reductions, having the flamer staff is so delightful to deal with condensed mobs, also is wildfire a meme?

In Vermintide 2, specifically Cata difficulty, is Ironbreaker useful? Just beat a mission and my stats were awful, but there were a couple of hairy moments where it felt like taunt was really useful, but I I'm worried I'm just getting carried and not really contributing.

>>530117997
>is wildfire a meme?
It's not great, but it can generate more stacks of warp siphon using the soulblaze node, which is one of the main reasons to take it.

>>530117824
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it on taking more than one of the Toughness Damage Reduction Nodes in the middle of the Arbitrator Tree or which one is better than the others.

I'm leaning toward Canine Morale, but I'm unclear if the node triggers if someone else kills it. I also know that Bleed Dog is currently bugged and Bleed killing something doesn't count as me or my own damage, therefore it wouldn't trigger. I also don't know if anyone else killing my pounced enemy while in coherency will trigger the node. The other point is that the other two talents are very close and easy to get but I'm not sure they're worth it. Of course, if you're good enough, technically none of them are worth it other than being travel nodes and happy accidents, but I'd rather know the exact numbers.

>>530116650
I had an unironic smigger in my h40 yesterday, it worked out alright honestly but it still felt super weird to see it at that level
You just can't escape them at the end of the day

>>530118687
A dedicated smite build with empowered psionics and the rending node on the left can deal surprising amounts of damage in havoc 40, while still being a smite build. Played a couple games with one, was pretty impressed with its performance. Obviously immediately swapped off it when modifiers with immune enemies showed up, and was a really good psyker on other builds as well.

>>530118405
>I'm leaning toward Canine Morale
If I have the dog, I'd almost always prefer to path left rather than right, and voltaic mandibles is a must take anyway. The TDR on the right has less uptime, the dog counts even chaff kills and buffs everyone. It's kind of a no brainer. I don't mind giving up 10% additive damage for it, aura or not. I'd instead ask myself whether losing the 10% additive damage could affect any breakpoints for my ogryn or whatever, but that might be overthinking it.

>>530118076
I never liked "tanking" classes in Vermintide 2 simply because they lack proper ratclicking power.
But I don't know enough about Ironbreaker since I never played it.

>>530118687
>I had an unironic smigger in my h40 yesterday, it worked out alright
This one plays as expected

Before the update I would constantly play at 5 in the morning (eu) and never struggle to get games or teammates, sure it could take a couple minutes for someone to join but there would always been someone. Since the update dropped I have done at least 3 mission completely solo and it just keeps happening. What the actual fuck did they do to the matchmaking? The game has more players than it had before yet this never happened in the past.

>>530111981
>draw girl
>call it a boy
it's still a girl I dont care what the artist says, I have eyes
maybe if he was a real gay he would draw men but he's drawing girls so he's not actually gay

I miss green circles

>>530119418
you playing aurics? Grinding up to aurics is incredibly grindy. If you're doing 1-2 games a day and lose some (like the average player would) you'll be like, halfway through damnation by now

can someone tell me what a "smigger" is please

>>530118076
Ironbreaker is useful, but it is important to leverage Ironbreaker's already high defensive power to be as aggressive as possible. Playing Ironbreaker as a support tank or the like is a massive waste of what Ironbreaker can do. Grab a killing weapon and go to town. Use the taunt for the damage reduction and go ham for the duration.

>>530119628
Smite only psyker who don't know how to fight and will drop like a sack the moment they have to actually play the game.

>>530118076
very useful, you can be very aggressive and trade hits
just don't think you're a "tank", you're not

>>530119959
I see, I never thought of it like that.

>>530115135
Why was Sanguinius apparently so well beloved anyway? Wasn’t there literally a Necron Lord who fashioned a face mask after Sanguinius’ in his honor?

>>530119959
To follow up, what weapon do you think best fits that mod for Ironbreaker?

Fucking great. My solo HISTG run just got fucked up by my dog pushing a poxburster at me so i landed on a daemonhost

Is Shield Plates good?
It seems insane because it works on Gunners too. And not just elites or specialists. Even just Scab Shooters. The dregs who die in one hit.
Block a single shot, get three seconds of regen. Plus on Monstrosities or Captains, it's pretty much up permanently.

Ogryns seem to be crashing. Every single time one leaves mid game for no apparent reason, there's a little stutter when it happens, and then they don't rejoin (leaving us others to play with a bot).

Is it just me or does it seem lately fatsharks servers are lagging considerably?

>>530121482
I crashed on loading into a havoc game on ogryn last week. Three times back to back, only working on the fourth attempt. Other guy in our group also crashed around the same time, but we couldn't figure out if it was somehow related.
I couldn't figure out what caused it, either. I've played the same build and same cosmetics since, and haven't had any issues whatsoever.

>>530120518
Standard weapons:
Greathammer is the standard middle ground option. Good single target damage (the best against chaos warriors), and good crowd control. But slower at clearing hordes
Great Axe, good single target damage, good trash killing. Poor control. You'll need strong footwork on cata, but high damage potential,

DLC
Dual Hammers. Excellent at staying alive. Good at clearing hordes. Heavy1-blockcancel for decent armour and monster damage. Can never go wrong with Dual Hammers.
Coghammer. A middle middle ground between great hammer and great axe. A little better horde clear than the hammer, a little better crowd control than the axe. Strong option if you have it.

>>530121863
>>530121482
take the trinkets off your weapons if you have this issue
fatshark fucked up

Every single time I focus on boss killing power, there's some dude that erases them in like 4 seconds.

>>530120918
Shield plates is good. All of the toughness over time nodes are good. If you already have all the token multiplicative damage nodes near the bottom, you can potentially afford it. Going top heavy is very good defensively, you just have to make concessions somehow. Shouldn't be difficult if you run no support nodes in your ability.

>>530121848
The worst I've experienced was the party function straight up shitting the bed. Minute long response times, or complete failures to join a party. That's about it. Actual missions were mostly fine, but I've also had the rare server crash (which are supposedly fixed now).

>>530122031
A good build can handle horde clear, mixed hordes, carapace, monstrosities and snipers all in one without making all that many concessions to anything other than fun. You shouldn't really have to focus on boss killing, just incorporate it in your build somewhere. No need to run full FotF or stealth with a thrust weapon, when a las weapon with infernus, or bolt weapon with puncture will do the job adequately.

>spawn in with most of health corrupted
>seconds later a team mate doesn't push burster and i die

>>530122107
Maybe it''s just me
I can't even dodge or switch weapons reliably because the game is rubberbanding so badly

>>530122292
Yeah great, that's not psyker.

>>530122581
Psyker has access to bolt pistol, las pistol, recon las. All of those are great against bosses. I understand not wanting to run some stupid gun on psyker, but there's some decent synergy with assail.
Flame staff is probably the next best option. It's why I like putting unyielding on mine, but it's not strictly necessary.
I'm unsure what other boss damage options psyker really has. I ran chain axe for a while, and that was... fine, but I'd rather have a knife or force sword with block if I can help it.

>>530123005
>there's gunnigger psyker and uhh
Yes thank you, very enlightening. I know.

>>530122031
>every time i (specialize), i (get punished)

hmmmmm

>>530122581
Just use a melee weapon that can do it nigger there's like 8 of them
what the fuck melee are you using?

>>530112935
I would go something like this if you want BTL. I know the distance node is good, but with this set up I end up using BTL like 80 times or more in a single havoc game. Which is utterly insane.
You can probably try getting rid of Shield Plates, I mostly only put that in there because I find it a pretty nice and comfy node to have if you need to play more defensively for whatever reason.

Alternatively you can drop BTL and grab castigators and use those two points for more utility. Grab Imposing Force and Rebreather. Now you're basically immortal.

I think the honeymoon phase is over for me. Sick of seeing arby players unless its someone I know already. So many shitters running around now

>>530125878
>3 years of the same four classes
>TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE PLAYING THE NEW CLASS
lol, wait for the zealot/psyker/veteran reworks then I guess
I'm gambling on Brunt and by extension moebian steel weapons (reds) by the end of the year

>>530126084
I played ratclick through every new career release and at worst you would be subjected to only one shitter. Instead it's 3 now on the most OP career release to date

>>530126084
>moebian steel weapons
Based and Archiepilled.

>>530126084
>wait for the zealot/psyker/veteran reworks then I guess
>I'm gambling on Brunt and by extension moebian steel weapons (reds) by the end of the year
Rest of the year is just us getting few weapons in september and 1 new map in december.
I wouldn't even expect class reworks

>>530126292
>I played ratclick through every new career release and at worst you would be subjected to only one shitter
Lol you fucking liar, every game would be half empty because people would only want to play the new class.

>>530126292
>>530128025
What a massive design flaw. Vermintide can't die quickly enough

>>530115135
>alpharius and omegon
stop pretending they were good

>>530126292
>the most OP career release to date
Sister of the Thorn was the most OP and its not even close.

>>530128889
shut up fag alpha legion for life

13 more snoretis trials and I'll never do them again...
>but what if they update it
they won't

>>530122107
>If you already have all the token multiplicative damage nodes near the bottom
Which ones are those? I thought every damage multiplier stacked additively with other damage modifiers and multiplicatively with strength. Are you just talking about Target the Weak?

Anyone played this recently and able to tell me what's causing all the short (<1s) freezes? Is it just when stuff spawns, and there's nothing I can do about it?

>>530122487
Just got spawned in auric with one ogryn player who started a mission solo and left all the bots way behind. So I and a bit later all the other players appeared in the biggest shitshow possible and went down real fast. At least ogryn didn't complain, but still.

>SEXUS CHUCK NORRIS ONE O FIVE
What did he mean by this?

>>530130894
She's gonna choke you out with a classic Lex technic of wrapping her thunder thighs around your face.

Holy crap, Louis
It's Dirty Harry

>>530128025
honestly that was the case I just played with premades too often so I never noticed it the way you would pubbing

>>530131127
Lmao, manlet.

>>530131127
That backpack looks really good with the red armor, probably the only setup that has made me like the red armor.

I want a spacefarer felinid themed reject with orbital bombardment ability etc etc

>>530130894
Guild ERP meeting at xroads, 1:05 server time

>>530131127
>female armor has a codpiece
lmao

Is it possible to run through Vermintide 1 solo?

>>530133117
Yes. Though you will have to gear up all your characters if you want to drag the bots through higher difficulties.

>>530133105
Yes? do you think being shot there would be any less of a problem for them?

>>530133434
>he thinks codpieces are protective
lmao

>530133614
>he thinks they aren't
For being a midwit I hereby deprive you of a (you)

>>530133950
No need to get upset anon I'll explain it to you
see the parts next to the codpiece? Those are femoral arteries. If you get shot or stabbed there you die. The codpiece deflects blows and projectiles into it, so it's the opposite of protective
The actual purpose of a codpiece is just a fashion/male pride thing. It's not meant to actually be functional armor

>>530134127
also I should add, it's funny that a woman is wearing one because it implies she has a penis.

>>530134127
We do engage in melee combat too, but are you seriously talking about functional protective armour in 40k? in that case you should probably talk about how there's no lower plate for the chest, or how literally every other set of armour in 40k is complete bollocks and wouldn't actually work all that well and was designed to be cool looking, and easy to make a mini of forty fucking years ago.

>>530134127
You're thinking of a stabbing attack aimed at the groin. Shrapnel and bullets/lasers would not deflect to the side. It's minimalist armor that fits wherever it can without impeding movement. You might as well be complaining about the bare midriff rather than trying to make any complaint about the effectiveness of the codpiece.

>>530134335
>but are you seriously talking about functional protective armour in 40k?
No, that's why I said it's funny that the anon said it's a protective codpiece.

>>530134410
>You're thinking of a stabbing attack aimed at the groin. Shrapnel and bullets/lasers would not deflect to the side.
Shrapnel and bullets would, but you're forgetting that we literally do fight people with stabby weapons

I'm not complaining or anything btw, I've no idea why you guys are making it seem that way. A female wearing a codpiece is about on the same level of funny and nonsensical as a man wearing boob armor

>>530134127
It's just a hanging flap of metal attached to the belt you retard, play the actualy game where you can rotate your character model and do exciting things like see it from the side.
Real Codpeices are about as subtle as a brick.

>>530134521
>Shrapnel and bullets would
No, that's not how physics work. It's an almost flat plate. In no world is a ricochet going to magically go into the thigh from there.

>>530134549
Codpieces like that existed so I'm not sure why you think this is a meaningful difference

>>530134626
>It's an almost flat plate.
Lmao even in your reductionism you couldn't get around the word "almost"
"almost flat" aka angled (wow!) will redirect force
At this point I'm gonna stop responding because I've no time to argue with some stubborn retard who will die on a hill about something he's obviously fucking wrong about lol. Armor codpieces as a statement were literally
>my dick is more important than my life
because the blows literally redirect into your femoral artery. You can screech all you want about how it's ACKSHUALLY REAL PROTECTIVE but the reality is
>it's first and foremost a fashion statement anyway
>armor doesn't matetr a ton in 40k anyway
>if it did matter that codpiece would get her killed
>she's wearing the equivalent of boobplate but for men

>>530134903
the blows will skid off the chestplate and gutshot you, they'll slide off your helmet and into your neck, that huge pauldron would make you unable to raise your arm, the chestplate isn't designed well for shouldering a firearm at all and would be very awkward, yeah no shit this discussion is retarded.

>>530134903
I'm not reading all of that. That's not how ricochet departure angle works. You're an idiot.

woah damn, someone should let armies and police forces across the world know how stupid the ceramic chest plate is!
just look at it! the bullets will deflect right off into your ribcage and the subclavian artery!
idiots!

Yeah it's important to note that Carapace armour is not medieval steel armour, no matter how steel-like it looks.

>decide to play kf2 again after years
>people keep enraging scrakes before taking care of trash zeds
>fp+scrake
>people still enrage the scrake before killing the fp
it's now 2025 and some people have no idea what their classes do and just want to shooty shooty bang bang, fml
>still having fun bailing them out of their stupidity because of nostalgia

>>530135696
You're probably honestly better off playing the first game.

>>530135174
would you unironically defend a man wearing boob plate using this same autistic argument

>>530135492
notice how its flat and not angled into your vitals? yeah...

>>530131127
Did not expect this to cause an argument

>>530136030
a non potruding codpeice is a gender neutral peice of armour, it's just a crotch covering dude.
I mean what the fuck do you prepose is a feminine version of a codpeice exactly? whatever you come up with is still going to be a codpeice, because all that means is "crotch covering"

>>530136143
They are curved.

>>530134335
>every other set of armour in 40k is complete bollocks and wouldn't actually work all that well
Not really. There’s plenty of real practical and effective armor. And even when it isn’t that’s kind of the point.
>>530134903
It does matter. Maybe not on the lower level but there’s a reason people bother with it at all.

>>530136236
Well there's an anon who wants to bring up his frustration with the notion of a female codpiece literally every time an image of arbites is posted, soooo

OK boys, Carapace, which arbites wear, is made of Ceremite, which is a ceramic, which means it absorbs blows, not deflect them.
things do not "skid off it", I know it looks metallic but it's not.

>>530136261
No? it only exists on male fashion
stop coping

>>530136391
Never noticed, but it made me look up armors that were specifically made for women

>>530136510
Ok, so tell me, what do women wear if they happen to be in armour and wish to have a covering to prevent them getting hit in the fanny?
tell me the word you would use for that peice of armour.

>>530136261
btw "cod" means scrotum, not crotch lmao

you guys are crazy man you can be abjectly wrong about the most simple, straight cut shit but you cannot accept that you didnt know. you have to cope and argue for hours about it. learn some fucking humility mate

>>530136515

>>530136569
not codpieces, those are male fashion
stop coping

>>530136515
Generally copies mens armour for the most part, Women weren't in armour enough for their fashion to wind up influencing it the way mens fashion did.
When Joan of Arc was put on trial on trumped up charges they tried to stick her with cross-dressing among those charges.

>>530136391
you can literally go in the archive and see it was never brought up before. you are just severely butthurt that you're wrong so now you have to invent a fantasy story about how its my obsession and shit. actual real narcissist shit

>>530136746
Answer the question faggot.

>>530136887
what the fuck answer do you want from me you daft cunt? you want me to point towards historical examples of female armor? doesnt fucking exist you retard
women have never worn a codpiece because it means BALLSACK PIECE and is FOR MEN you utter stupid fucking cunt

>>530136780
I figure they used male design with female fittings. A cod piece can be removed or added, so the question is whether women would wear one
>>530136515
This image seems to have a space for a codpiece

>>530137050
Unlikely for them to wear one of the huge ones that some dudes got ahold of, and really it was one of the more... peripheral peices of armour, usually the faulds would just hang down over the crotch with some mail.

>>530136569
>what do women wear if they happen to be in armour and wish to have a covering to prevent them getting hit in the fanny?
Disregarding that women dont wear armor and never have (it is a fantasy setting after all) the answer to this is overlapping faulds. Groin and armpits are a weakspot on any armor for mobility reasons, armpits moreso because it was easier to overlap a skirt over the groin.
Codpieces by the way are purely decorational. They dont serve a real purpose and are just an adaptation of a male fashion trend into armor. It's pretty weird for a woman to have that

>>530136780
>they tried to stick her with cross-dressing
Based. We should start doing that again.

why does he have a codpiece? with the black carapace on he's a ken doll, completely flat down there

>>530137414
They do have some real use actually, basically for people who are going to be on horseback a lot long faulds in the middle can be fucking awkward, and you know, decorative as they often were, it was still *steel*.

>>530137673
It's a male pride thing, same reason chudette wears one

You're all fags.

>>530134716
To be fair, if a chick manages to work her way into a swat team or something she's going to wear a groin flap too.

>>530137937
I think it's more apt to say that fatshark is lazy as fuck and just reuses all the models

Is shooting the beast of nurgle the only way to deal with it if you're solo?

>>530138237
No

>>530138237
No you can just side dodge the spit. Dodge slide to be sure

>>530138237
I mean you can stab it too, it only eats you if you get vomited on first.

>>530138317
>>530138332
>>530138354
so I take it arbites shock maul without the dodge boost is just so goddamn slow at dodging it feels impossible

>>530138085
Well yeah obviously, that's why all the outfits look like shit and are way too slender looking despite wearing what should be fairly bulky armor. All the early outfits have fucking pencil thin ankles that look so weird.

>>530138465
No its about the same as everything else, you can dodge it fine with shitty ogryn shield dodges too
The timing is a bit awkward cause the vomit is like invisible. I recommend you get the creature spawner mod and mess around until you got the timing down, its hard to practice in game

>>530138465
Dodge slide

>>530140307
Yeah I just did it. It works but it's totally not worth it because then you're just eating the corruption as you circle around him. Ah well.

gayldari ranger scout when?

>>530133614
Thats where she keeps her copy of the LEX

>>530140818
Never. Sexy cat women who milk my penis at the end of the game in a fun minigame first.

>>530122487
>this but its the very start of the mission

>spawn in to mortis trials, entire team nearly dead, all 4 charges of the med station used, no med crate to be seen
>wave 1

Fix your fucking traintracks, fatshark
Failing a dodge because of a railroad spike sticking out an inch too high is insufferable

>sorry your mission just ends for no reason
and am I supposed to be ok with... this?

So I'm working on a Crusher "Bruiser" build where I basically spam F when I can into any crowd I can get stuck into.

Any way I could make it better?

1/?

>>530142889
2/?

>>530142889
>>530143091
3/3

>>530142889
>>530143091
>>530143218
lol

>>530142889
>>530143091
>>530143218
3 posts
1 word
YIKES

>>530142482
What?

>>530111981
WOULD

>>530143587
game just kick entire team out of mission during the end of havoc

>>530142889
>>530143218
>>530143091
I don't usually like bullying anons, but is this a joke?
If you want to spam BTL, then why not Execution Order with Malocator? This is literally the no cooldown option.
>perfect block node
>all 3 small travel nodes
>no Target the weak which is multiplicative damage
>no Soulguilt scan or Weight of the Lex for again most massive multi damage nodes in melee

>>530143717
Honestly I'm not very good with builds. But thank you.

>>530143794
I'm sure you can optimize that build further, it's just an example of what you'd be aiming for a good nodes to consider.
And since you're looking at constantly stunning or staggering, I'm sure you're also using Shield, right?

>>530143928
I'm trying to use the Crusher.

>finish the mission
>get the currencies
>realize that after I get enough of them I'll craft the meta shit and never have an incentive to actually play the mission again
>alt f4, refund
almost wasted money on normalnigger slop

>"old loot system was better" anon isn't american
good to know

>>530144248
yeah, I'm White. Americans (non-whites by definition) prefer the crafting slop

>530144119
YAAAWN. Oh, you're still going?

for fucks sake these story missions are killing auric

do I actually need anything else from forceful?

>>530145110
fatshark dropping unstested shit so they can pretend they deserve a salary-episode 5771

>reinstall sm2 because new update
>play for a bit
>remember why I dropped it
gameplay is king man, back to darktide I go

>>530143928
Sorry my match was beginning. I should say, I'm trying to use the Crusher mainly because variety's sake, but I'm down to use the maul/shield since it's p great.

>>530145432
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Such a shame. I had such high hopes for it.

>>530145432
for me it managed to run much much worse than Darktide. The early campaign level had a mud in minecraft textures, audio bugs and a pajeeta screaming in my ears

>>530145432
casinotard, just sounds like you don't enjoy playing video games

>>530145432
I've enjoyed it, but it doesn't have as much staying power as ratclick and modern darktide

>>530145432
you guys just aren't playing it right, every single time all I hear is complaints about parrying and "cinematic" executions when that shit hasn't been the case for months now
use a block melee weapon, faggots

Why is everyone fighting in melee in WH40k, are they stupid?

>>530147702
because warp

>>530147702
chainsword go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>ratclick
>are they stupid?
>prefering the crafting over looting
>tranime
any other giveaways of being a redditor?

>>530147956
keep practicing, you've got a long way to go still, kid

>can beat a DH with maul and board
>can't do it with the single maul
is that really a good enough reason to run the shield instead? I like the single maul's movement so much more

>>530148169
the single one will get nerfed hard, dont rely on the crutch, become as shield god
>does more damage per swing than a fucking CRUSHER
fair and balanced

>>530147702
Because it’s effective? And also badass.

>>530148608
I don't think they're going to nerf shit. Ogryn rework, now this. I hope fatshark is sick of catering to havoc 40 tranny streamers and is going to just make the game fun.

>>530148608
Single doesn't even have good cleave and horde clear takes 5 business days in high intensity havocs, even pick becomes better at horde clear
It doesn't deserve a nerf

>>530147702
Also, it's not quite like Dune, but it's a little bit like Dune where shields and armor is so advanced the average ranged weapon just scratches the armor. Therefore super sci-fi melee weapons exist to give units an excuse to go into melee combat.

>>530149418
*stares in 2.25x cleave readily available on the right side of the tree*

>>530148817
>I hope fatshark is sick of catering to havoc 40 tranny streamers
Okay but what about Auric enjoyers? Because right now it's a joke. Can't remember the last time I lost a match.

>>530143665
server crashed and burned

>>530147702
drive me closer

>>530149637
I thought it was about ogryn

time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..

>>530150086
plap

>>530147702
You can't fix all the problems just by shooting them all, you know.

>>530147702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knHguBTfXI

toughness or health for psyker?

>>530130178
>Which ones are those?
Target the weak, soulguilt scan, efficient killer, and you pick up two additive damage nodes along the way anyway.
Sorry for the late reply I was literally asleep.

jesus fuck i tried using the ogryn shield+taunt but just can't get over how it feels like using a nerf bat

i'll stick with the pooper scoopers

>>530151167
Three additive modifiers, even. I forgot that execution order adds another +15% lol what a stupid skill.

>>530151202
Are you using light attacks?

>>530150987
toughness, also holy shit arbi is a toughness machine if you take all the relevant talents there isn't any moment where you not get toughness/have a toughness DR/some kind of other toughness thing running

>>530151307
no, maybe i should screw around with the shield blessings more

>>530151325
as long as you are hitting/killing you are invincible yeah

>>530151348
Skulkcrusher and brutal momentum. Spamming the first heavy attack is by far the best way to use the shield

>>530151502
oh, that makes more sense

>>530147702
It's called WARHAMMER not "Stubber 40K"

>>530151502
Don't forget about light 1 into heavy 2 for cleaving through dense hordes without carapace.

>>530151898
Fuck off with this shit

>>530151949
Even brutal momentum H1 with buffs doesn't headshot kill chaff under some havoc circumstances, having infinite cleave to apply bleed to everything is better. It's niche, but it's worth mentioning. Never mind that it also more reliably staggers everything in front of you. Pushing is also good for this.

>Havoc 40 True Survivor ROOMBLER joins
>Sprints ahead blasting and leaving a bunch of half dead enemies everywhere
>Gets ledged 200 metres away and INSTANTLY disconnects
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

>>530152134
We have already been over it
Heavy 1 does the most damage and can be dragged across several enemies and since only kill shots trigger brutal momentum then you want the highest damage attack and then you drag it across the horde

There is no variety in the attacks. H1 is the strongest in every single situation

>>530152385
>and since only kill shots trigger brutal momentum
Yes anon. That is what I addressed in the post. If you weren't an insufferable, illiterate, retarded and autistic FAGGOT you would be able to conclude what I meant by it. Some people here actually use weapons in practical scenarios instead of theorycrafting hypothetical scenarios that only exist when enemies have several damage taken debuffs and you have a breaking dissent nuncio arbitrator AND ecclesiarch's call zealot in the party.
H1 is the strongest in nearly every situation, not all of them.

>>530152860
Are you talking about the arbites shield?
Because i am very obviously right about the slab shield. There is no theory crafting, this is from hundreds of hours of experience with the slab shield and very simple math

>>530153054
yeah lol maybe in aurics

>>530153169
Kill yourself

>light attack retard going at it again

>>530152134
then you would just spam heavy attacks without the light attack

>if you don't play meta you are a retard
alright, I understand why the "people" here are in favor of crafting meta shit instead of looting it. They watch better people on youtube and copy them, but they are too shit to compete with other human beings so they stick to the AI horde smashing. I can't fathom how you can wake up every morning while knowing you are an inferior human being. Honestly, why dont you just off yourself? Like, seriously, why dont you just end it?

Do you guys think felinids have bigger tits than human woman or smaller?

>>530154509
Smaller because they're sleek DEX builds, but I'm sure there's some abhuman gene that makes them have massive milkers sometimes

>>530154509
they got 8 sloshing jugs, ready to service 8 anons

>discussion about nerfs and buffs
this is a pve game, if players get out of hand, why not also buff the enemies?
now let us fight chaos space marines already!

>install mod that shows how much ammo someone took/wasted
>retard took 27% ammo from ammo crate
>not even a second later
>retard took 1% ammo from ammo crate
Just, why? It didn't matter at that time, but what compels these retards to do this? That shit happens regularly, too, especially in snoretis trials.
>ammo crate just sitting there for an infinite duration
>duhhh gotta top up for 15% ammo

Why does my dog keep missing the fucking pounce? Every time I tag a gunner or anything my dog just completely fucking misses the leap and doesn't kill them.

>>530154654
>8
Fuck that. I get all of them to myself.

>>530155197
>kinda low on ammo but not enough to really start worrying yet
>also a guy has an ammo crate so it's not a big deal
>he drops it when we get to an objective
>keep shooting
>everyone takes one
>okay, last one is mine, I'll get the most out of this ammo I have left
>turn around
>no ammo

>>530151502
H1 -> H2 is fine as a loop. Even H1+ 2 light attacks work.
I've done H40s just doing that and it works.

I don't use H1 block cancel because I just never get the timing correct with the block. So I might as well just use H1 -> H2 loop.

>>530152860
>>530152134
you're too nuanced for /copeg/. We need simple.

>>530155197
>I'm the best player in this match, fuck everyone else, I'm carrying anyway
or
>there are better players than me in this match, I'm jealous, they can deal with low ammo anyway
There are other reasons too probably, but it's always ego and lack of teamplay experience

>>530154861
>why not also buff the enemies?
Because buffing enemies = nerfing all weapons.
The power of a weapon is only relevant in it's relation to the enemies. If we only buff and never nerf we end up with weapons doing 5 000 000 damage vs enemies with 20 000 000 HP.

I just did a test with the arbites shield against 50 ragers and i won
No ability
No dog
No blitz
We need nerfs. This isn't healthy

>>530156457
I sometimes double dip the ammo boxes when I'm playing ogryn and me and my team are holding a point like on aegis station or ascension riser, so I just mag dump while bracing my ripper gun. It's fun to do and very effective.

>>530156646
seems fitting for warhammer 40k

>hmm let's design a super difficult mode for the peak gamers
>should we give specials new abilites? give elites some tricks? make chaff do something neat? introduce some unique enemies?
>nah let's nerf the player, bullet sponge the enemies and give random "lmao this unit now ignores a mechanic completely loool"
damn I wish I were a game designer, they seem smart

>>530156921
Double dipping ammo crates is fine, even expected under certain circumstances. If I'm on a build that barely uses ammo, I'm just going to walk past the ammo crate in favor of a small ammo pickup or two and let the ogryn have it.
But what fucking brain damage compels someone to pick up 1% ammo, as the only vet, without field improv, and probably at full grenades anyway because these sub-animal troglodytes use neither grenades nor abilities anyway?

>>530157010
>we need to make Mortis Trials more challenging
>2 DEMONHOST AND 9 MONSTERS AT THE SAME TIME + TRAPPERS AND A WAVE OF MUTANTS
Not saying it's hard but damn is it their only way to spice things up?

>>530155197
Some people are just retards.
Some people are hateful spawns of statan who want to see the world burn.
Had game like that yesterday. An arbite suddenly said "FUCK YOU" in chat. Nobody understood what he was upset about.
Later when I placed the ammo crate at the final area, that little faggot took all of it. He didn't need it, he just wanted to be a dick.

>>530147702
cuz melee combat is way more exiting than holding down a trigger?
not that they don't do both

>>530156206
Actual fucking subhumans. I just barrel them first chance I get.

>>530157065
Yeah, that's weird I agree.
Some people are just dumb.

>530154448
Holy shit he's getting desperate for attention

>>530156206
That's why i take early. Won't risk it

>>530157010
>>530157165
>Not saying it's hard but damn is it their only way to spice things up?
Adding actual game mechanics and messing with enemy AI to make them more challenging would require more than tweaking a number or two, or modifiers that take maybe a dozen lines of code. It would require that someone who actually plays the game and understands game mechanics have a creative thought. Didn't fatshark lose their combat director some time ago?

>>530157010
I liek killing many many things

Commissar Dukane owes me sex.

>>530156847
>block
>use shield special
>hit enemies
>block again when they recover
There is no amount of ragers that can kill a shield arbites

>>530147702
it's cool

Nurglers are the worst things to face in battle

>>530157449
Yes. The guy quit and then founded his own studio and then went to work with Arrowhead on Helldivers.

>>530156847
Weapons are supposed to do well against specific enemies. Nothing wrong with the suppression shield countering ragers. In a real mission there's a bunch of other stuff to deal with at the same time.

>>530158365
>Weapons are supposed to do well against specific enemies
What is the shield weak against?

>>530157449
>Didn't fatshark lose their combat director some time ago?
Not this again. People must have totally forgotten how unbalanced the game was before he left. Knife zealots had 90% damage resistance. The Flamer could kill literally everything in seconds, including bosses and crushers.

>>530158407
Crushers.

>>530158407
I don't think it has any major weaknesses. Horde clear isn't great, but serviceable.

>>530158530
That's missing the point. The original discussion was about the challenge mode and game mechanics that would make it interesting, when fatshark just lazily tweaked some numbers and half-assedly added bullet sponge modifiers.
Would you rather leave that kind of stuff up to the people who play like >>530100876 ?

>>530158530
The game is worse balanced than then.
There was OP shit but it was few and far between. Now it is just OP shit everywhere which make the games worse.

>>530158530
And every shitty weapon in the game was made under his direction
>assault chain sword
>pre buff tactical axes
>pre buff devil's claws
>pre buff eviscerator
>pre buff thunder hammer
>pre and post buff crusher
>pre buff slab shield
>power mauls
>headhunter autoguns

>>530158675
I would hardly say that it's weak against crushers. It's one of the strongest human anti crusher weapons

>>530158675
It's pretty fucking good against crushers. If they take too long to kill, that's a build issue.

>>530158728
Same for this. Horde clear is good, just not excellent. And it doesn't matter because everything just gets perma staggered. With a half-decent build, chaff stops existing and mixed hordes take about as long to kill as with the other classes, but you're practically invulnerable during.

>>530158981
I think the weapon is strong because the class is strong.

>new weapons are good against everything
>old weapons had niches
>old weapons will get buffed until the shredder autopistol can kill carapace
>then the game dies
you know it to be true

>>530159202
>shredder autopistol can kill carapace
This was fun as fuck. Shame you weren't there.

>>530159153
The crusher still feels like shit

>>530159153
This is true, but for a class exclusive weapon, the class' power must be accounted for.
Even then, it's clearly better than virtually all of the melee weapons arbitrator shares with the other classes. Old shock maul may be the exception here, but I don't value its strengths over having a shield and flashbang.

What's the most annoying psyker staff for non-psyker players in a match?

>>530159371
Flames because I can't see shit
Ground pound because it keeps throwing enemies out of my melee attacks if aimed incorrectly
Bowling ball because most psykers using it spend half the mission hugging the floor

>>530158757
I just don't understand why people assume the previous guy wasn't just like >>530100876 because he clearly didn't understand balance.

>>530158817
Back when "he" was in charge, most weapons were trash, while few weapons were OP.
Today, most weapons are good, with a few weapons being OP.
That's an improvement.

The pickaxes were the first weapons made under the new combat director
That's a W

>>530159510
I find it hard to disagree, but we also got havoc, and that is a complete embarrassment, game design wise. Lazy number tweaking does not make for an interesting challenge mode.

>>530159627
havoc is indeed a mess

>>530159510
>Back when "he" was in charge, most weapons were trash, while few weapons were OP.
>Today, most weapons are good, with a few weapons being OP.
No, it's the same today as well.
Only weapons that are good and don't suck dick are stuff like bolter, plasma, dueling sword, combat axes and great swords. Rest of the human class weapons are ass and nobody uses them because there is no point.
Ogryn is the only class where all weapons (not power maul) are usable, but that is only because ogryn as a class is OP.

>>530159575
And they are overpowered shit which turns the game into a snorefest.
You could damage on pickaxes by like 20-30% and you still be 1 shotting all enemies that aren't elites or specials.

>>530159575
based New Wombat Director

>>530160030
t. Sniveler

>>530159916
>Only weapons that are good and don't suck dick are stuff like bolter, plasma, dueling sword, combat axes and great swords
Plasma used to suck
Duelling sword wasn't available
Great swords didn't exist. You might be talking about heavy swords which aren't any good

>>530159916
There's a couple more, like power sword, force swords, recon las, las pistol, the buffed combat shotguns (yes, even in havoc) and revolver (which is still good, despite having suffered power creep).
I agree with what you're saying btw, but a lot of it also has to do with how much more efficient is for a build to be fully generalist, and how that shapes the weapon selection meta around it. If killing armor weren't simultaneously so important, yet ammo inefficient with ranged weapons, can opener melees would see much less representation. Unfortunately outside of havocs, I have to assume with 100% certainty that my retards can't kill even a single crusher, let alone five, and in havoc they have so much HP, and I have so little ammo, that not bringing a can opener melee is borderline griefing.

Did anything change with the Damnation and Auric difficulties themselves, or is it just different how they're presented to you now? Like is the enemy health and damage scaling still the same between them?

>>530162453
They're the same overall, but three important changes happened
>Power creep
Ogryn received enormous buffs to make him keep up in havoc 40, arbites are designed from the ground up to be good in havoc 40, they absolutely dominate the normal difficulties as a result.
>Mouthbreather infestation
The absolute DROOLERS who couldn't find the auric page before, are now all joining your games (including maelstroms), as well as retards who think progressing through the difficulties is some major achievement, not realizing they were carried and corpse dragged to the finish line.
>Story & inferno missions
I don't even know if inferno is still going on, but that is/was basically just ventliation purge with extra fire enemies, which is the equivalent of low intensity. Story missions are more intentionally paced, which translates to easier.
Both of the above are/were available on auric difficulty and can be quickplayed into.

>>530119462
Today I will remind (((them))):

>>530162912
the face alone is girly as fuck

the heavy stubber feels useless desu
yeah it's an ogryn sized sniper, but the ogryn is too big for a sniper, and all his gun-focused talents reward him for shooting away like an ork

>>530163734
I used to think the same, and still think it's a bad gun, but it's one of the best gunner, reaper and sniper removal tools pure melee builds have available. All but the heaviest mark are basically useless, and that one can two shot reapers in the head.
Never ever hipfire it, it's pointless. Don't even bother with bodyshots in most cases either. Don't run it with PBB or any semblance of a ranged build. Just unga bunga your melee until a problem shows up that you can't melee, and it'll be your best friend.

>>530163908
>Just unga bunga your melee until a problem shows up that you can't melee
but wouldn't I want a rock instead for that?

>>530164110
Rock is slightly faster to swap to and nice for removing trappers and mutants, but you're not killing a dozen gunners in an entrenched position, and this is likely to happen multiple times a game. It also can't reach snipers if there's a fence or a ceiling blocking the way.
Rock also locks you out of using either grenade, which can be considered a downside. I like rock. I like both grenades.

Zola owes me stinky sex

>>530164240
I see, thank you

>>530163908
I sweared by Kickback until I started encountering way too many fucking retards who wouldn't shoot at gunner stacks that were outside of my effective range or would just not give a fuck about 3 trappers rushing at us. Heavy stubber solves those issues, with a little help from rock.

I liked it more when Aurics had their own separate tab. Made them feel a little special.

H40 again

>>530157245
This animation looks so goofy what is this from?

>>530165679
you spent 5$ just for a joke?

>>530165840
Secret Level (Amazon) episode 5: "And They Shall Know No Fear"

>>530165912
poorfag spotted

>>530165840
Why goofy?

>>530165840
The amazon secret levels episode.

>>530166037
Looks like he is made of rubber flailing his arms around like that

>>530157245
Nigga was aura farming with that headbutt

So in darktide what's a decent melee weapon for veteran? Something that can do decent at both crowds and speicals/elites.

Do characters with eye implants have HUD?

What drives players to sprint back across the bridge to save 1 team mate who got trapper'ed because he decided to jerk off opening every box ignoring the new enemy wave?

I feel like they should demote you from Damnation if you do shit like this. I was carrying these fools through multiple near wipes to this point but I relax for a second turning around to find out where they went and this crusher pack triple overheads me out of nowhere.

Streamers n reddit crying that Arbites is too strong obviously don't play with randoms its like daycare as an Ogryn.

>>530167243
Shovel does really well against crowds and "okay enough" against small numbers of actual threats, but it's too slow at killing armor.
Power sword is really unwieldy, but with power cycler it's really effective clear, and sunder lets it cleave through carapace.
Dueling sword is the metaslave's choice because it fucking deletes most actual threats while having reasonably decent horde clear. Veteran doesn't really have the stamina management to do enough pushing with the dueling sword to be quite as effective at clearing chaff as it would like to be, but you can make up for that by taking relentless strikes (the strength blessing) and flak.

>>530167243
Rashad.

>Lost my last 8 havocs

>>530167471
Probably think it's teamwork and that everyone else will go help too.

What happened to the columnus? I remember it being pretty damn strong but I don't see anyone using it. Did it get nerfed?

>>530167571
Holy h*ck is that a 4x 80 and 1x 60 stat distribution?? Oh and you could get the exact perks and blessings you wanted, Emperor bless the crafting system!
Rock and stone or something, fellow redditors!

>>530167802

>>530167471
>but I relax for a second turning around to find out where they went and this crusher pack triple overheads me
Never turn back for your retards.
That's not to say to rush forward and speedrun blitz through the mission of course, but if you're moving forward at a steady, constant pace and killing everything in the way, and your retards aren't keeping up, that's on them. Always focus on yourself first, so shit like this doesn't happen. They will never do anything useful. In fact, you're likely better off without them, because they'll magdump poxies and then jew all the ammo away from you.

>Streamers n reddit crying that Arbites is too strong obviously don't play with randoms its like daycare as an Ogryn
Arby's and ogryn are both too strong, but tards are gonna tard. Imagine if they were on a more normal, mortal class like psyker or veteran. They'd be dead before the first wave even shows up.

Try loading up a scoreboard mod and playing one of the babby difficulties on arbites with a pure dog build, and do nothing but block with your shield. Then proceed to watch the dog outperform the average tard.

>>530167243
I honestly really like the shock mauls and devil claw MK IV

My dude :3

>>530168085
>they'll magdump poxies and then jew all the ammo away from you.
That's true they got me with that a few times in the starter spire section.

>Try loading up a scoreboard mod and playing one of the babby difficulties on arbites with a pure dog build, and do nothing but block with your shield. Then proceed to watch the dog outperform the average tard.

No need for that. On Zealot I was soloing a boss when the other guy alive with me rage quit thinking we would wipe. The bot that replaced him actually did a better job surviving the crusher pack that spawned so it took pressure off me to revive the others and we won.
Yes the bots that are worse than the Dog did a better job than an Arbites Andy.

It just makes you wonder sometimes.

>>530169449
Im sad everyone thinks i am raging when i really do just assume the bot will do a better job than i am at that moment

>>530170446
Why are you even playing in those missions in the first place, when you're so confident a bot would do a better job than you?

>>530171053
are you some kind of souless machine that your assumptions and confidence never changes

>>530171053
That's me playing Psyker sometimes.

>>530140439
if you do one direction only the corruption dissppears before you slide into it

>>530167802
you've been trying this shit for 6 hours today already

>>530171624
6 hours each day for a week now.

>>530171053
Some days i just eat shit constantly even in aurics and i have no idea why.

>>530167243
Veteran doesn't have good melee weapons
Shovel, rashad, chainsword, powersword are all at about the same level. There is duelling sword mk4 crutch which you could say is the best just like every other class.
Rashad is busted on arbites because of their stupid op tree but it's nothing special on veteran.

>>530168085
>don't open boxes and run forward like a dumbass
>why they jew all my ammo!
Every single time

>>530173051
french

>>530173051
>get bottlnecked by the map forcing everyone to group
>open box
>nigger at 99% button mashes the ammo bag faster than I can even look at it

>>530167243
The knife is good with bleed, regular shovel, chain axe if you abuse piss toughness knockback.
I like the last mark of heavy sword because it allows me to pop heads and hordes more defensively.
I don't like the Power Sword because it feels like it's tickling everything without its special mode. The shock maul with Skullcrusher Hammerblow feels better to me because at least it knocks enemies back.

>>530173240
I have seen ogryns do this a lot and they aren't even bad at the game they're just trolls

>>530173493
that's racists, everyone does it equally often

>>530173493
Yeah I do ths. Stop using your guns and fight like a man.

>tag enemy for dog to remote det
>"teammate" kills that enemy and only that enemy
>tag another enemy
>"teammate" kills that enemy and only that enemy
>everything else is left standing while the other retards return to their epic duels with singular poxwalkers
What causes this phenomenon?

>>530173847
Dogshit game design. Dog ping should simply be its own keybind and not show up for teammates.

>>530173051
They were next to me till we got to the other side of the bridge then the third somehow got trapper'ed across it.
I had red ammo that entire run because as an Ogryn I don't need ammo anyway with the Bully Club so I let them take all the ammo because they needed it more than I did.

In fact every time we saw an enemy they would spam grenades like a group of pensioners throwing bread to the ducks for some reason.

There are far fewer boss spawns in havoc 40 than in the lower levels

>>530173847
>"gaaah look a trapper kill it!!!!"
>kill it
sorry?

Nobody plays psyker in havoc anymore...

>>530174354
I still spam bubbles. Maybe if you're lucky enough you'll get to play with me.

Wish they would add Helbore Lasguns and Helpistols which mog the boring Plasma Gun

>>530174142
Is H30 harder than h40 or am I a schizo retard?
Three different H30 missions I hopped into had like 7 different monstrocities on top of the twins spawn in just one single fucking room, and I fail those way more often than I have ever failed any H40s which seem to be smooth sailing

>>530174484
Hellguns*

>>530173240
I do this intentionally if I know my team just dumps it on poxies anyway

>>530174306
>ping deep into infinitely dense ball of maulers
>smigger pulls out his gun and magdumps it, and only it, getting no collateral kills whatsoever, and griefing me out of being able to remove the entire group of enemies with remote det
>twice in a row
>he went back to smigging after each ping

>>530174484
Yes anon everyone playing vet has been asking since the game launched but fatshark will never give you fun guns to use

>>530175969
just play the game instead of playing dog commander
problem solved

>>530175969
you told him to kill that mauler you can't be mad at him for it. I didn't know anything about the arbys guy so i probably do this a lot. Among 20 targets im going to start with the glowing one.

>>530176467
>literally everything anyone ever does must be directed at me, for I am the main character
>I'm too retarded to put two and two together on how a class' mechanics could possibly work
I see, thanks for explaining how an actual retard thinks.

>>530174484
Hellguns would overlap with recon lasguns. Just give them Hotshots(totally not the same thing) and go all in on cleave with them. They are going to gut plasma cleave anyway so it won't overlap

>>530176676
anon your character usually literally goes "raaaah someone kill that (marked target)" what are you talking about?
I'm sorry i never noticed your precious doggo ticking down the enemies, im too busy actually killing them.

>>530176676
>the devs put the ping button in this co-op game so that I could use it to communicate with my bot dog and no one else
that's just sad

>>530176914
>im too busy actually killing them.
You mean eating an overhead, going down, and quitting before you can be revived because you think a bot would do a better job than you, right?

>>530177113
>everyone who disagrees with me is bad at the game!
get over yourself

>Not using pings because they're there to warn others of troublesome specials that you couldn't get to.

I swear I'm the only one that thinks of the team.

I'm honestly surprised Fatshark survived long enough to make such an amazing game like Darktide. Vermintide is such a dogshit game with terrible systems and atrocious marvel tier characters that I have no fucking idea how anyone could play it.

>>530177307
also on that note, am I the only one that knows you can ping while downed?

>>530177345
Weak ass bait. try again faggot.

I wish the characters were more marvel, i miss the constant saltzpyre sienna tsundere flirting.

>>530177345
nice bait, everyone knows that the crafting system completely breaks any form of replayability darkslop could have had. This change from looting to just crafting the meta shit may be the most retarded change any game has ever done in history of the gaming industry

What do you call it when bait responds to bait?
Is this some form of inbreeding?

>>530177864
It's what bots do when they don't get enough engagement. They just reply to themselves and pretend to be different people to make it seem like people are biting.

slavoids shitting up the thread again
>>530177864

>>530177864
A bored schizo.
Every general has at least one or more incredibly bored anon who doesn't know how to just close the thread and do anything else for entertainment. Some generals are incredibly bad with this.
Anime themed MMO generals specifically are infested with the worst of a single anon spamming hundreds of bait posts per thread even if no one replies.
There was one anon who got a b& in the pso thread and it turns out he was 500 out of the 650 existing posts. so the thread basically went straight back to being fresh and new

>>530177307
nah that's why I use them too, arbys ping shows up a different color so depending on the situation i just let the dog go murder it
>>530177443
I don't see it often but it's helpful

mandated edict: mating press

>>530174425
bet you're a cute guy

>>530178682
These mental disorders are so sad to observe.

>>530178682
>500 out of the 650

>>530178682
>500 out of the 650 existing posts

>if you disagree with the echo chamber then it means that you have a mental disorder!
do redditors even have brains? like there is no way an actual human being could be this fucking retarded

>>530178752 >:3c

>>530178974

Two Zolas, in fact

>>530178774
it's the beauty of 4chins, you get pure unfiltered opinions which can lead to some interesting discussion and you get the people literally nobody would talk to given an option

holy ducking shit these arby fags just rush through all the fire and everything without care, shrugging off the hits with the shield and shit, fucking hell what a gay Atoma Prime

How the fuck do you play a staff Psyker without killing yourself? They all feel like complete shit.

>>530177443
>get surprised by trapper in the middle of doing something else
>ping trapper
>dog kills it
It's nice

>>530179097
First you have to get good

>>530179097
try managing your peril

>>530179097
Have you tried trauma staff? It doesn't require teammates to cover your ass. It stuns EVERYTHING and has pretty good horde clear.

>>530179269
>>530179246
Killing myself in real life, not blowing the fuck up. Do blessings really make such a big difference when it comes to them like with combat axes?

>>530179409
there are hotlines for this. stay strong

>>530167471
>damnation
baby crying about other babies

which dog do you guys use?
i use the one where his faced is taped to a metal box

>>530179097
just zap all specials away with lightning and them touch your "staff" or "sword" to relieve pent-up aggression, bro

>>530179330
Tried voidstrike, voidblast and inferno. Strike and blast charge way too long and honestly feel kinda clunky to use, while inferno feels like less satisfying zealot flamer.

>>530179409
Yes, blessings let you actually deal damage

>>530178942
you're more than welcome to use the old crafting systems, none of them have been removed fucktard. You could run exclusively emperors gift weapons, only rely on melk for upgrades, play shopclick every hour looking for a high roll. Nothing is stopping you
ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for brownies

>>530179515
Go away havoctranny nobody likes you

>>530179687
Inferno shits on hordes of things when built correctly, use the zap staff for special/elite targeting

>>530179927
auric dude

>>530179068
Feeling like joining the Moebian 21st?

>>530179687
Try voidblast. The explosion stuns everything in a 20 mile radius so you don't even need a melee weapon with it. Just explode your feet.

>>530179990
15 more games then I can shit up your pristine lobbies. Probably the same calibre of players.

>>530180116
>so you don't even need a melee weapon with it.
This is a blatant lie, because it deals absolutely pathetic damage to bosses, so you are physically required to bring a melee weapon that can kill them, because the odds of your teammates having any way of dealing with monstrosities are so low, I would bet good money on it.

>>530180310
wait what? 100? since when?

>>530174142
Maybe it's completely broken, at 20-25 3 captains with 2-3 monstrocities at the same time is the norm
I thought it was because of retards pushing too far and triggering extra spawns, but after watching some havoc 40s on twitch they don't get this many bosses for the whole map, let alone one room. Like one of yesterday's chocobo's runs had 0 bosses, the one before it had only 1 scripted boss. The following runs had like 2-3 bosses and it was a shitshow, when they got a captain and a monstrosity at the same time they were losing hard but before they could all die they crashed the server lol

>>530174306
>"gaaah look
>my screen is literally pitch black
This game is made by swedes, let's not pretend you can actually see enemies without cheats

>>530180337
Oh right just bring a duelling sword or whatever. But the staff has good horde clear and can CC any amount of elites so you rarely need to melee stuff.

embiggened hammerhead will never give us a weapon pack for $10

>>530171253
oh I was circle strafing him way too much, I see
what an absolute nonthreat, it's amazing how educational the creature spawner mod is
it's frankly dumb that boss 1v1s aren't available in the meatgrinder or even REQUIRED to be beaten to enter certain difficulties

Is the RNGslop guy still going at it?

>>530181774
Every day for the past week, around this time +/- 3 or so hours.

>>530180003
So this is how it happens, huh?
i need a loving hug...

>>530181924
Tenacious lad.

>>530179851
>just gimp yourself while everyone else is running around with the crafted meta shit
also, you could have spared yourself the embarassment of using the reddit meme, but you just had to prove that this general is filled with barely sentient normalfags

>>530179851
Wow another braindead redditor doesn't even know how to make brownies, wow. start by melting some chocolate and butter together—try not to burn it this time. Mix in sugar and eggs, and then fold in flour like you actually know what you're doing. Pour the batter into a pan and bake it, but don’t expect them to turn out perfect; we both know that’s a stretch for you.

>>530179068
>be arby
>have shield and maul
>huge horde comes up, I am surrounded!!
>in a panic, I press the alternate fire button on my mouse
>now the enemies are simply not allowed to hit me for 5 seconds

>>530182784
>>in a panic, I press the alternate fire button on my mouse
It's worrying how accurate this is, because there is no way some rando would do this on purpose.

>>530182784
>you can do this twice and it instantly recharges upon blocking one or two attacks

@coopg is this true

>>530183093

>>530183093
>The new class is great. And that's a good thing.

>>530183093
I mean the game shouldn't let people subsist in the hgihest difficulties because classes stopped having a skill floor, that's gay and retarded

>talking about the skill floor and skill ceiling
>in a fucking PvE horde game

>>530183093
where's the line between skill floor and OPness?
Shitters can run arby and have a good time up to and including auric.
Put the same shitters in the shoes of a psyker and they'll hit a wall when Assail is out-scaled by damnation.

>>530183723
I mean what do you think the difficulties do if not introduce a skill floor

rate my totally special and unique arbitrator

>>530183895
YJK

>>530183723
yeah? fucks wrong with you

>>530183947
delete this...

>>530183954
he uses vibe based logic and thinks that's the words have no meaning, and rather he thinks they shouldn't be used in this context because the vibe they give doesn't suit it.
He's basically just going
>skill ceiling? skill floor?
>but this is a pve game. It's not what skilled players typically do

as for why he behaves and thinks like this? Skin color. You see it often with the swarthy types

>>530184152
yeah, and you can say that shit is food because you can eat it. You got to be brown dude, it's funny how there is always some form of projection in these kind of posts

>>530167243
Combat axe is my favorite.

>>530184371
hmm. naaah. his post was better

>>530184371
>instant food analogy
>doesn't even relate to what was said, just kind of loosely fits the vibe of the message
Yep, I struck a nerve

>>530184371
Only indians think of eating and shit at the same time, way to out yourself, Rahim

just double-checking, dagger is still only good on zealot right? veteran doesn't have the right talents to make it function? do i also need to be a macronigger or is it functional without giving carpal tunnel

>>530183895
Just goes to show that Fatshark 100% should've added more free cosmetics with the arbites. Many of the penances don't have a proper reward and it's just +10 or +5 penance points.
They also should've updated the commissary, that shit hasn't been updated since it was first added. It' honestly disgraceful.

>instantly samefags
embarassing

>>530151167
>>530151283
Ok, gotcha. You had me thinking that maybe one of the additive modifiers was accidentally multiplicative. Thanks
No worries. I just woke up myself

Predictions on next weeks cash shop items?

>>530184827
It still works pretty well on vet thanks to the untranny strike, but it's worse than on zealot. Way worse.

>>530185045
We know that the Arby is just getting a shitty recolor of the current premium slop coat. Beyond that I'm not sure if they found anything in the files.
Could just be a re-run for the rest of the classes.

Holy fuck playing only Arbites since his release and leveling up my Ogryn beforehand made me fucking regress as a player. Finally went back to my vet and psyker and holy shit I never played worse. Arbites really is fucking braindead as fuck.

>>530183093
>unironically referencing clown farming posts

>>530183781
>Assail is out-scaled by damnation.
What did he mean by this?
Assail+recon lasgun is the strongest build for most auric maelstroms (excluding maybe the melee one)

>>530185351
Yeah they feel like paper by comparison with far less of a margin for fuckups.

beam staff for psygger doko

so is the Nuncio Aquilla actualyl worth it with the 70% DR "bug"?

>>530185351
Yeah. Similar happened to me when I went back to my Zealot. The insane toughness generation of Arbites lets you be completely careless.while you murder everything with your S tier weapons.
It's similar to what Darktide as a whole has done to me. I play far more aggressively in it than I did in VT2, due in part to constant Ironbreaker passive, and I bet I'd get shit on for a while if I went and booted up VT2 right now.

>>530185351
Yes, arbites can handle so much more you basically forget how to play safe.
What's worse is that evey single ogryn is now a rumbler fag who's like
>here have a grenade that removes all the poxies so you can't sustain toughness while fighting mixed horde anymore

>>530185976
In Aurics? Meh.
In Havocs? Yes, it's very handy.

>>530185712
>>530186028
>>530186138
I'm just going to finish up my 100 games penance and I probably won't touch him ever again. At least Ogryn is kinda slow and big, so you CAN get fucked up by gunners.

>>530185351
Same, came back to the game for dogman, leveled ogryn and now I'm getting smashed as a my original psyker character. feels bad man

>>530186214
Yeah, im currently building a H30+ build, was gonna use the frag nades but the Dog is honestly too useful, especially with its Bleed, Shock and Toughness regen

>>530186440
Yeah I haven't played him in several days. I'll probably get back on him soon though 'cause I do enjoy playing him. Definitely not gonna main him though because holy fuck. He's just obscene with no real drawbacks to his kit. I got absolutely raped trying to go from Arbites to carrying Aurics (other 3 were obviously new players) with a TH build. Ended that game with like 700 damage taken or something and a couple pops on my Holy Rev. It was messy as fuck

>>530186916
>frag nades
I keep seeing people put the nades in their havoc builds over dog explosion or shock mines, and I don't get it. The nades seemed kinda meh when I used them in Aurics, much less Havocs. Meanwhile you can Puncture explosion or stun an entire avenue of approach. Is there some trick to them that I just haven't gotten?

>>530185174
i really dont like this insinuation that a weapon's only value is entirely extrinsic to its own capabilities. what a fucking retardedly designed blessing dude

>>530184827
Veteran has a cool unique build he can do with the combat knife. Put uncanny + mercy killer on the knife and use the talent that gives you bleed stacks per hit. It ends up being pretty high damage

>>530187426
They are really good for removing enraged Elites and mixed hordes, but you need to give the dog up because you really want them with the nade regen

>>530188917
Huh. I'll have to give them another shot then.

>>530186440
You don't even need to aim at gunners you just toss a grenade in their general direction

>>530188875
Zealot also has a talent to apply bleeds on melee attacks too, albeit he needs to crit, which isn't hard all things considered.

>>530188282
well I ran it with uhh either finesse or riposte and the bleed on crit blessings for the longest time and it worked pretty well, but I changed to bleed + untranny due to the fucking volume of armored enemies.

>>530190057
meant precognition, I forgot how the blessing was called.

>>530187426
Nades have very high stagger on demand and you get 4 from a pickup
Dog detonation is useless without bleed from bolter and even then it's too weak in high havocs
Mines are decent but take too long to deploy and I don't think their stagger is as strong as impact grenades. Impacts stun plague ogryns.

>>530184827
>>530188875
>>530189727
does psyker and/or arbiter have any way to apply bleed? If so, could make a whole team (zealot, vet, ogryn, psyker/arby) built around spamming bleed

>>530189727
It would be silly and inconsistent to try this on a zealot, the point is the 100% bleed on hit

>>530190605
>psyker
Iirc only with the knife while using lacerate
>arbites
Dog with razorjaws.

>>530190605
chainsword with bleed blessing

>>530190605
Bleed caps at 16 and can take a while to kill tanky enemies, have the psyker or zealot aplying fires for the best dot team.

>>530191921
bleed + fire + soulblaze + skullcrusher from arbibi

that should do the trick

It's time to massively buff the shredder attack on chain weapons. It's so risky having to stand close for that long. The risk doesn't match the reward. Increase the reward pls. Thank you.

please send this to fatshark^

>>530192648
They should give them a knockback radius maybe some kind of flesh explosion a bit like the power sword or maul.

>>530192872
certainly an idea worth exploring. Either as a passive for all weapons or a fancy blessing.

>>530193163
Well its a charged special attack the Arbites shield gets it why can't they

What was Hadron getting out of that freight train that was meant to be kept secret from Rannick?

Reginald just called out telopots holy fuck

>>530192169
Noooo my FPS, potato PC can't deal maths, please do not redeem Sah!!!1

>>530194112
no he didn't

>>530193909
one embarassing snapshot of Hadron at the christmas party

>>530192648
Enemies around you should cower in fear every time you are chainsawing the guy

>>530192648
Just give them the same heat gauge relics swords have. When you have it revving it has increased cleave and applies bleed on hit which can be increased via blessings.

>>530194434
aoe suppression while shredding, added to the list

>I AM A WARRIOR

>>530194452
They need to give power swords that first, having to hit a fucking button every 2 swings is annoying as shit.

>>530195118
Based. Keep the fire alive.

>>530195119
True, both should get it.

>>530194452
that would make them the same weapons. I want them to behave somewhat differently

I am...a warrior ;)

You're a rat.

He is a warrior...? Domp it..

Give me more free aquilas, fatshark

>sleepy time for India
>thread dies

Fucking around right now with what i want to pick for H40, but im not sure what to grab for the last 3 talents so suggestions would be nice
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f53f212-c02f-4244-a5a9-57e5150ad29d/trash
Honestly, everything in Arby's tree is just good, having choices is hard

>>530182618
kek

>>530199265
what are you even doing

>>530192648
you can dodge out of the shred now, you're not locked in place

>>530199265
Try this instead.

>>530201056
I'm fucking retarded. Swap the 10% melee damage node at the top for efficient killer keystone node.

>>530182618
>—
heh

>>530195706
>I want to press a button compulsively after every two swings because
>...it's different okay???
Just give the Relic Blade to Veteran or change the Power Sword to function like it, NOBODY likes this shit

>>530202009
Anon is talking about chain weapons, not the power sword.
Power sword should get the heat gauge, and there's some hints about that in the game files since dataminers found a new, 3rd power sword variant.

Chainweapon special still suits them imo, but it needs to be tweaked with more damage and maybe even some form of damage reduction when using it since currently it's extremely easy to die while using the special because some poxwalker came up to you and attacked you.
Also they really need to fix the Opportunist thing, it's such bullshit that you don't get the Opportunist's rending benefit even if you use the rev up attack and it staggers the enemy.

>>530195706
You could still have them at least chew into armored targets when hit but I'd like to just have my chain weapons revving for more than one hit. Also increase the engine sound by 100%.

>>530200646
u're mom
I always feel theres better things to grab other than the Forceful stuff without actually going for that capstone talent
>>530201056
>>530201262
Will give it a shot, thanks

>>530203129
What can be better than killing shit in less hits?
All this extra toughness regen is reduntant on arbites when your toughness bounces right up, especially the tiny amount you get from specialists when you get like twice or triple that from every hit

>>530199265
Impact frags suck, the damage falls off really hard in red/purple 40s and it gets even worse if you're not running lone wolf for the regen, and if you are then stun mines just do way more. Run the dog explosion, it still stuns bosses.
Concussive is very debatable without a skullcrusher melee, personally I don't like it even with one because you already stagger so much with all the impact bonuses on the tree. If you're really worried about bossing you can keep it though.
Voltaic mandibles sucks MAJOR ass, I have no idea why it's shilled so hard. Go into the psykhanium and test it out by itself with no razor jaws, it's at best 100 extra DPS on one single target. Razor jaws not only does much better it also applies in an area and it triggers constantly now that it's been fixed. Save your points and go down the extra ammo instead.
Cleave sucks, take the small impact node instead.
>>530201056
Your top of the tree is almost perfect, but the bottom side is half retarded. 75% cleave on push will only net you one or two extra poxwalkers hit for the minimum damage that's at best 10% of their max HP in an auric and half that on a 40, and force of will only works per attack, not per hit. Cleave is one of the worst bonuses in the game, it won't increase your cleave damage, you'll only hit a couple more things for the minimum damage possible, and arbites doesn't even have anything that doesn't scale down as more enemies are hit, like ogryn's batter. Target the weak is nice, but you could go for 15% melee damage and impact on the first target hit, and 15% global damage for 5s after a heavy attack, both of which are more universal and work off of normal play.
Rebreather is worthless outside of pox gas in which it becomes a must have S tier node.
No soulguilt scan is nigger tier IQ. 16% power just for hitting heads which you should already be doing, and it's multiplicative to all the other damage nodes. And yeah, move the 10% melee damage to efficient killer.

>>530183626
Aurics are mid.

>>530202009
The problem is that power sword is worse than a fucking dclaw when unpowered, unless you sacrifice either brutal momentum or power cycler in favor of slaughterer, both of which are too fucking good to not take. It needs a rework so it can actually kill things outside of the special and push attack into light combo; relic actually has nice breakpoints on maniac and flak when empowered and it's only carapace and unyielding that you can't truly touch without the activation.

>>530199265
Retard

so all of this is so grand daddy brahms(grendyl) can steal shit from atoma to repair his oxygen machine and the heretics are just an excuse (maybe a manufactured one) ?

>>530203902
You are right ofc, i was mainly thinking of situations where there is nothing to slap in open rooms with gunners, but now that im thinking about it you approach those differently anyways
I was considering True Grit like the other anon said, but i dont think its worth it with the Nuncia Aquilla atm, testing out Rebreather right now because holy gas did i just have a Toxbomber round
>>530204394
I've had a easier time with Impact Nades than the Dog Nade so far, especially since half the time i cant position the dog properly in time for it to be worthwhile, on bosses its easy yeah
Voltaic Mandibles is mostly used to grab Canine Morale, but its a free shock on enemies for your Blessings i suppose, will take the Impact node though
>>530205034
Thanks for your very insightful comment anon, here is that (You) that you so desperately wanted :)

>>530204394
Oh i also forgot, Concussive is mainly to apply Stagger things to Enraged/Stagger Immune enemies
Iirc its bugged with Skullcrusher anyways and only lets Skullcrusher apply once

Without a doubt, the dumbest motherfuckers playing auric are in mortis trials

>>530205295
Honestly I face so much constant bullshit in 40s that I'd take true grit over target the weak. Silent bursters, ninja crushers, stacked snipers that staggered their shots instead of shooting at the same time.
>>530199265
Oh I forgot about the curios. You ABSOLUTELY want 3x ability cooldown reduction no matter what. More break the lines, more aquilas, both of them are highly impactful. The small toughness and health perks aren't worth it honestly, I'd go for stamina regeneration or even max out revive speed if you feel comfortable with arbites' 0.5s regen delay.

>>530204768
You know I know people tend to not have any foresight whatsoever, but what do you think is gonna happen to Havoc 40 soon if the mindset of
>never nerf shit, only buff it, it's a pve game, who cares if shit is OP
continues?

>>530206298
I haven't had that many issues with heavy burst damage yet since im still in 33 atm, but i believe you and throw it on
Gonna change my curios too then, i figured with Malocator the 12% wouldn't be too impactful
Is max revive speed actually worth it? I remember reading a while ago that 1 hits a good enough breakpoint like 1 Stamina Regen does

>>530204394
>Your top of the tree is almost perfect, but the bottom side is half retarded.
Just post a screenshot of your build.

>>530206598
DS + Plasma + Arby's stick nerfs will be plenty for some time, and the former two are guaranteed.
Ogryn can wait until zealot gets his deserved talent rework to cull the bloat nodes.

I don't like the inferno special event.

>>530206968
Even just a nerf preview that accidentally leaked on the chinese website turned their steam ratings into mixed, right before their DLC came out. I don't think they're ever nerfing shit man.

>>530154509
They can have and be both. Abhumans can vary pretty widely in features

>>530207373
Recent ratings.
It was a big ol' nothingburger and most people didn't care.
It's coming.

>>530207373
Honestly, for a PS nerf they should just ship it alongside the meltagun. Give the cuhrazeee cleave to melta and make the PS charged shot AoE blast.

>>530158221
They are. You just spend the whole fight throwing up.
>>530119462
That physique is a little too mannish to be the case

>>530206664
I used to think revive speed was really bad, but I've changed my mind on it after trying it out. Havocs are so unbalanced against you, and require the entire team to be not only among the best of the playerbase but also to play at 100% the entire time, that losing even one guy can have a serious snowball effect. If your team has three defensive abilities like shout, taunt, book, or bubble then I don't think it's needed, but if your team is being cheeky and rolling with only one or even none then that faster pick up when someone goes down lets you get away with a mistake when otherwise some stray shooter would have gotten through all of your toughness and stunned you out of the revive or even possibly downed you as well.

>>530207810
*PG

>>530157245
Damn. That was pretty awesome.
>>530165840
>>530166405
Disagree. I think it’s the most fluid best looking animation 40k has gotten to date as an adaptation
>>530167458
Some do. There’s a lot of information that can be fed to them through it

I've been using this for havoc, r8

>>530206968
>Arby's stick nerf
this one isn't happening

>>530174425
>jjkucksen
go back

>>530207810
Bro they literally were gonan nerf DS along with the arbites release and people still threw such a massive tantrum they had to backpedal instantly
it's NEVER going to happen

>>530179851
>gif
Good to you still around bud :)

>>530208193
If you put confident strike on your weapon then you can skip some of those toughness regen nodes and go for true grit and weight of the lex

>>530208461
Cope, DS is getting nerfed no matter what. It's the only weapon I 100% agree on nerfing.

>>530208461
Wrong.
>https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/610914203288475763

>Future Balancing Pass
>While not included in this round of changes (and not the only tweaks considered) these are on our radar for a future balancing pass.

>Duelling Swords
>We are currently undertaking a comprehensive rework of the weapon, examining every aspect. While a damage reduction is probable, and will likely contribute to the solution, our aim is to bring its power level in line with other weapons while reinforcing its player fantasy and raising its skill ceiling.

>Plasma Gun
>We recognise that the Plasma Gun's primary attack presents an issue. This often leads to gameplay revolving around quick attacks, bypassing the intended trade-offs associated with the potent, yet volatile, secondary charged attacks.

Posting their tentative changes to Chyna was a mistake, which they further followed up by saying the changes therein are not final.
Again, you're wrong.

>>530183895
I wish I had that dog skin…

>>530208719
Some nerfs do need to happen but lardshark needs to resist the urge to nerf multiple aspects of a given wepaon or class at once because they tend to overdo it and send whatever it is straight into the dumpster and then ignore it for half a year.

>>530209050
get to pouncing on niggas then

>>530150656
>easily breaks on anything
>easily clogged with debris
>useless piece of metal without a chain
yes, Warhammer is really fantasy even in the future

2 more weeks, they'll surely nerf the dueling saber now

What is the most fun non-dlc class?
I've just started playing and went for a Psycher but he feels omega boring, I've just unlocked the Force staff so maybe that will make the gameplay more interesting

>>530209471
when it comes to what class you should play the real answer is all of them, but don't judge any of them too hard until you hit level 30 and have real builds to make, and can actually get the different weapons.

>>530209131
>because they tend to overdo it and send whatever it is straight into the dumpster
>and then ignore it for half a year
This last part is what gets me the most.
The nerfs and potential buffs wouldn't be such a massive fucking issue if Fatshit could push out ACTUAL HOTFIXES where they tweak weapons on a timely manner.
I fucking hate how retardedly lazy they are.
Bit of a tangent:
It's the same with class talents and abilities like VoC, people have been pointing out for 2 YEARS that giving a vet an ability which is 360 degree AoE stun which staggers ALL enemies, even BOSSES, and then shits out piss toughness which makes the entire team invinsible for like 15 seconds and the vet can spam this shit every 10 seconds is HORRIBLY balanced.
What is Fatshark's solution? Fucking buffing the thing by making the cool down shorter, and then they make a retarded gamemode which is practically designed around all the OP shit.

It's so honestly baffling to me that a game studio can SOMEHOW fucking function like this and somehow are capable of keep this rickety ass, buggy, ever crashing, fucking game chugging along.

>>530195443
only good character from that gay game

Patch status?

>>530209050
Ok, Cruella

>>530211247
It's coming very soon, they will nerf everything

>>530209471
Psyker is probably the worst leveling experience. But all classes are pretty fun and unique. Gameplay at level cap is pretty different from when you're leveling up due to the talent trees and even without perfect stats max level items are a lot stronger.

>>530210823
What, you don't enjoy the approach to balance being to just say fuck it and throw 20 crushers at you and make every weapon and build that can't handle that dumpster tier?

>>530211247
2 more months. Devs are on their post-patch vacation

>>530211712
but what about the post-post-patch vacation recovery?

>>530211247
>https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/summer-announcement-2025/110380
Vacation'd as fuck.

How have they still not fixed the fucking eye augment crashing your game as arbites?

>>530212038
no fucking way what a bunch of fucking lazy fucks

>>530211823
Shit you're right. Add another month to the counter

>>530212038
>expect one hotfix in july
>last hotfix was june 30th

it could be released tomorrow or july 31st

>>530209471
Veteran is my favorite cause I'm a Guardsmanfag, its gonna sound like a cop-out answer but all of the classes are fun in their own way.

>>530212038
What the fuck is their vacation time like? I get a lot of people taking time off, but how does it lead to them saying don't be mean while nothing happens for a month or 2?

>>530212038
>release DLC in a half-broken state
>a handful of really important skills don't work correctly even after a hotfix
>mission replay still isn't in, essentially making some content nearly inaccessible (twins fight)
>maelstroms can still completely vanish off the mission board for upwards of 15 minutes at a time
>huge player numbers, yet some matches are still half empty and never fill up
>go on fucking vacation without fixing any of that

>>530212667
>tomorrow
nah mate they have to recover from the weekend

>>530212970
they give them like 2-3 weeks that they can take off whenever they like in summer
this leads to a situation where all summer long at least one guy you wish was around will be missing, effectively washing out the entire summer

>>530213067

>>530212970
Nordic countries let workers take around 1 or 2 months off as a vacation.
Many obviously do this vacation in summer because winters in north europe are cold, dark and boring. I would know, I live here.

Darktide feels so weird to play compared to Vermintide 2. I don't know why exactly, I haven't played Vt in a long time but something feels... off. I think it's how the character moves. It felt smoother in Vt, also I've always known where to expect the enemies from in Vt, in Darktide I get caught off-guard often. But I've just started playing, so maybe it will come naturally with time.
I don't know if it's this feeling which I've described or if the game is actually harder but I've been killed/brought to low hp a few times and in Vt I felt like I could solo the hordes

>>530213825
>in Darktide I get caught off-guard often. But I've just started playing, so maybe it will come naturally with time.
They spawn from where nobody is currently able to see, with I believe a minimum distance to the player unless spawning inside of a designated spawn point inside a wall, as far as I know.

>>530110883 (OP)
Is that supposed to be an Ogryn? Why so small?

>>530177864
I call it, "Please just fall for my idiot trap so you can get angry for my inane reasons".

Some messed up people just see the rest of us as suckers.

>>530213825
alright I've just opened Darktide and I'm in the hub area, there definitely is a built-in input lag.

>>530214302
Walking in the mourningstar is not like walking in missions

>>530125582
holy shit finally a fucking decent build posted here

>>530178682
Christ that's just depressing. No wonder the post always come off as like "passively miserable".

>>530214302
sometimes it feels like it with some ranged weapons, but nowhere near as bad as built-in input lag on mourningstar
it will go away in game, idk why they even did it in hub, the controls are completely different actually when you're in 3rd person view, you are incapable of strafing or going backwards

>>530214479
this is, like, the most generic arbites build
samefag?

What the fuck did they do to the mission board while I was gone for a few months why are Damnation and Aurics new separate things?

>>530214649
this is quite literally samefag:the general. Just look at the few discord niggers spamming the "crafting is better than looting" cope. You can't convince me there are more than like 5 actual human beings that think that rolling the base to get the meta stat distribution to then apply the meta perks a good system

>>530214649
>samefag 17 hours later
I just opened the thread retard, why do you think I picked such an early post
it's not a generic Arbites build for this general's standards. You niggers do retarded shit like ignore BTL's two mandatory nodes all the time.

>>530214841
They were made separate

>>530215070
>ignore BTL's two mandatory nodes all the time.
Fucking retard

>>530214096
maybe its a design choice so people wouldnt gun everything down

>casinofag is still at it
Lmao

>>530215092
>why are these things separate?
>they were made separate
muttmerican posting hours

>>530213825
It's opposite. Darktide feels a lot more "smoother". Vermintide has a bit more depth in some sense to it with stamina management being actually important.

Darktide is the better game, but it does have bigger problem of turning into just mindless button smashing. To put it in other words: Darktide feels like a hack'n slash -game, while Vermintide feels more like a brawler.

>>530148608
>>530148169
They're not going to nerf anything about Arbites lol. You guys exaggerate just how often Fagshart nerfs anything. It's exceedingly rare.
Still I think Arby Maul and Shmaul are stupidly close in use. It's just preference really. They did a good job balancing them out against each other. Both have great TTKs and both offer something over the other.

>>530215425
I'd play VT but Darktide has the superior talent trees and more aura shit to buff up teammates.
Also why are there so many stats, what the fuck do Strength and Finesse damage do?

>>530215258
Case in point. You niggers genuinely think that +25% more ultimate uptime, which means you have the +25% damage, and potentially the +25% strength buff from Forceful, and also the hard CC from the ability itself a quarter more often, is somehow not mandatory. Not to mention the on-demand toughness and stamina recharge on Havoc due to the mass amount of elites and specialists. If you use that ability without the subnodes you either play in a casual difficulty or you are a troll.

What's Magos Kharib's secret project and how does it relate to the Tertium conflict?

>>530215808
Strength = Damage, cleave and stagger
Finesse = Weakpoint and critical damage
You might also see the term Power thrown around, it means the exact same as Strength. Fatshark used both at some point for no reason, which just generated further confusion.

>>530215921
i want to fuck that rat

>>530215884
>on Havoc due to the mass amount of elites and specialists
Anon, copeg has proven time and again that only a tiny number of users actually play above havoc 20, because for however much this general likes to pretend they're good at the game, most of these niggers are hardstuck. Just look at the amount of cope and seething whenever havoc 40 talk is going on. All the retards come out of the woodworks to trannypost because someone better than them can play the hard mode they'll never even reach.

>>530215409
They are separate because they made them that what. Are you slow?

>>530213067
I'll never understand these posts. Yes, Fartshart is a shit dev for these things to make it past testing, I fully agree. But do you actually expect people to pass on their vacation because the live service video game has bugs?

>>530215884
>bro, you can have super duper uptime with these 2 talent investvments and all you have to do is skip 2 talents that give you +30% damage literally all the time, bro
That's how you mongoloids always do it

>>530216169
>Just look at the amount of cope and seething whenever havoc 40 talk is going on.
People love talking about H40, it's just that lately there's been some dumb faggot who's non stop seething about
>aurics are pointless
>aurics arent fun
>if you play aurics you have mental retardation
purely to be inflammatory and it kills and poisons the discourse.e I'm not sure if it's you, but if it is, then what the fuck kind of reactions do you expect with those kinda posts lmao. The problem is first and foremost the autism there

>>530216169
lmao as soon as my 20 week thing was done I no longer had any incentive to play Havoc

>>530216359
>But do you actually expect people to pass on their vacation because the live service video game has bugs?
No, but I would expect, first and foremost, that a major update isn't released in a semi-broken state. Then I would expect that management has the necessary foresight to release it with enough of a buffer window before vacation season, so they can fix any minor bugs. THEN I would expect to leave behind an actually competent skeleton crew during vacation to hopefully maintain the servers and whatever.

In their current state, fatshark are already on a fucking skeleton crew keeping the game on life support. Leaving one or two guys behind achieves fucking nothing.
I obviously know not to expect anything from these swiggers but it's still fucking embarrassing.

>>530216450
You don't have to skip any damage talents. 5 seconds is easily the difference between life and death in this game, even Auric players should know this.

>>530216694
>THEN I would expect to leave behind an actually competent skeleton crew during vacation
Just sounds dystopian to me, imagine living in a society where you can actually get people to give up their vacations. It's humans, not mindless worker ants

>>530216450
>all you have to do is skip 2 talents that give you +30% damage literally all the time
That's not how the math works, though. A lot of +% damage nodes are additive with each other, meaning they mathematically don't compete with the ones that stack multiplicatively, like crit, weakspot damage, enemy damage taken, etc. and every good arbitrator build has a virtually permanent +55% additively stacking damage buffs up just about 100% of the time. +30% damage isn't +30% damage here anymore. Never mind the part where having virtually 100% uptime on BTL's damage buff has a similar effect. You're obviously weaker than you would be during BTL's buff if you had those extra nodes, but you can also BTL twice as much and buy yourself a lot of safety, thus consistency.

Losing 10% effective DPS without actually losing any breakpoints is an easy concession to make to buy yourself infinitely more consistency, and claiming otherwise is retarded.
Obviously this assumes you already take soulguilt, zealous dedication, efficient killer (I sure hope you're taking execution order, else you're outing yourself as a shitter), and target the weak, which are the mathematically superior skills in the tree.

Darktide really needs a Chaos Wastes type mode. They seem to be inching towards that with modifiers but they just need to do it already. It's been 3 years.

>>530216359
I'd expect them to not schedule a vacation immediately after a major update, or that major update right before a vacation.

>>530217314
It's hardly far fetched to discuss with employees whether they'd be willing to shift their vacation window to a different time of year, and potentially compensate them with better pay. Nor is it far fetched to have a "B team" of sorts, potentially in a different region entirely, that can take over when the "A team" is on vacation or whatever. All sorts of businesses operate this way.

>>530217442
>darktide needs to be vermintide
listen to yourself

>>530217552
In most affluent european countries worker protection is very strong. People have the right to take their vacations during summer, which is when most people want to take it, so most industries lay low for a couple weeks around this time
That said would it really be smart to schedule everyone to get off work before the update is out then work on it after vacation? Just sounds like a lot of "where the fuck was I again" to me

>>530217732
it literally does

>>530217732
Exactly. We've been saying this since 2022.

>>530217732
I mean I agree with him tho, having a roguelite mode would be kino.

>>530217782
no. darktide needs more 40k. inject the 40k juice. it's too little.

>>530217620
>>530217740
Then drop the fucking update after the vacation so it isn't flapping in the wind, The point is that dropping a huge update and then being absent is a stupid way of doing things, there is not a game update under the sun that doesn't require some aftercare these days.

>>530217782
so uhhhhhhhh just play vermintide ???¨¨´´
>>530217876

>>530217956
Honestly I think I will, it's been 3 fucking years and the game is still mid

>>530218037
>doesn't do it
meanwhile I play both games like a chad

>>530217732
He's right
It should've been Vermintide in space

>>530216540
>I'm not sure if it's you,
Nah, I play aurics all the time and enjoy them.
I also play havoc 40 with some regularity and vaguely enjoy it, but find it too stressful to invest all that much time. Still got my true survivor with randos though.
>The problem is first and foremost the autism there
The problem is more that of peak Dunning Kruger retards speaking about shit they don't even hypothetically understand with the fullest confidence, then resorting to nigger levels of shitflinging because they can't hold an actual conversation, whether it is because they can't explain their supposed points for a lack of understanding, or because of some crippling ESL language barrier.
Autism isn't a problem when the person in question is correct.
/coopg/ is usually autistic and wrong.

>>530217909
>Darktide Chaos Wastes
>takes place on space hulks
Wish granted.

>>530218128
that cant happen because we are fighting For Atoma!!!

what I want is trench warfare like what the elfland map in vt2 examplified somewhat. going through an open field warfare.

>>530218272
>Dreadnought drops out of warp outside Atoma following the dark ritual
>Rejects and Arbitrators go to investigate
problem solved

>>530218371
ok cool. make it dark and cramped, and add terminators, genestealers and tzeentch demons that split into more spleench spleemons

>>530215921
seems pretty obvious he's keeping great grandpappy brahms alive
probably because great grandpappy brahms has some "upon my death, rape my soul and obliterate the mourningstar" demon contract

>>530218371
I forgot, also add a soundtrack where someone emulates vomiting over and over like in a certain thief merchant game.

Does the Power Level of the weapon matter in Darktide?

>>530218702
it's jsut a numer that shows how far from maxxed it is

>>530218512
Genestealers have been hinted at and so have dark eldar

>>530218861
Will I be able to play as a hot dark eldar girl?

Valuable Distraction: On, For the Lil'Uns? Selected, Slab Shield? Ready, Bonehead? Frying

I love playing as Bullgryn, literally just throwing myself into a pack of maulers in Auric levels and just tanking it all. I have been playing this for just 1 month but it feels fantastic.

>>530218702
there's no legitimate reason it shouldn't be 500, resources allowing

>>530219082
you will be allowed to play as a body type B uggo that uses male cosmetics

>>530219201
poste builde

>>530219201
I could never get into shield. Having to cancel the heavy with a block is too complex for my brainless ape brain. I end up clearing havoc 40s just fine with karsolas heavy spam.

>>530217956
What... what do the rat brain sounds reveal?

>>530219260
>dark eldar dlc comes out
>body type B is hot as hell
>voice 1: OI M8 ME MINGE IS ROIGHT ITCHY
>voice 2: OI M8 ME MINGE IS ROIGHT ITCHY (voice like a construction worker who chainsmokes 5 packs a day)
>voice 3: OI M8 ME MINGE IS ROIGHT ITCHB (male voice)

>>530219584
>>voice 2: OI M8 ME MINGE IS ROIGHT ITCHY (voice like a construction worker who chainsmokes 5 packs a day)
Hot

>>530219584
I want this exact dialog

>body type
darkslopper humiliation ritual

>>530219379
I will be honest Anon I haven't tried Havoc yet, just been playing Aurics. Don't know what to expect if I ever decide to jump into the Havoc experience, is that how you get the red tier weapons I see in some of the videos?


Also continuing to be honest, I really don't try to go for some combos and will just spam light ones to stack bleed on heavier targets or spam heavy to clear hordes. Will always try to be in front to taunt anyone shooting at the group and will hunker down every so often if I can gather most machine gunners to target me.

It sometimes almost feels like I just turn my brain off to play as Bullgryn effectively, but like I said I haven't played Havoc yet so I don't know how good it is.
>>530219273
Sure Anon, here

>>530220223
Terrible build
Post your weapons

>>530220223
>shield build
>doesn't take the two nodes in the far bottom left above the keystone
anon... I beg of you.

>spawned in mid game
>immediately started heading in the wrong direction

>>530220223
I consistently clear havoc 40 with this build and karsolas. Headtaker/Slaughterer Carapace/Unyielding

Just got 750k

>>530220624
Could be worse.
Could've responded with slavbabble then left.

>>530218371
You mean a Space Hulk

>>530220891
750k what?

>>530220306
Ahahah sure Anon, here.

>>530220435
Get stuck in and won't give in? I have considered it really, mostly get stuck in. It does look like a good boon for the team, I will see in the future, so far it has been working so well I didn't really care to change anything.

>>530220882
Thanks for the suggestion Anon, I will have to check first if what I am using will get through an Havoc lobby at first but I will remember this.

>>530221591
Put brutal momentum on the shield instead of opportunist

>>530221591
>Get stuck in and won't give in?
No, implacable and no stopping me! You're supposed to use heavy attacks almost exclusively with the shield.

>>530220882
I approve of this build

Does this game have a pity I did 80 pulls and got nothing

>>530221970
lower your standards

>>530220882
I kinda wanna take focused fighter but I can only think of dropping beat them back or frenzied blows. Worth it or not?

>ranged dodge on crit
What the FLAP

>>530221772
I will consider it Anon, thanks.

>>530221775
Ah I see, not much use to me. I mostly just use lights and heavies depending on how I feel like during whatever I am facing. Thank you still Anon.

>>530221970
for godrolls I legit find it better to just check brunts shop every hour rather than piss away all my dockets.

>>530221970
what game BWO

>>530221772
i really really fucking dont like this whatsoever. what is the point on an extremely high cleave weapon having slightly more effective cleave? bleed already does the vast overwhelming majority of the work in that regard anyway. is it literally just for the situation where you have armor mixed in with hordes? losing what is functionally 162% toughness generation-on-light-attack is a huge blow to eHP/durability.

mother FUCKER why do light attacks have to be considered such atrociously unusuable dogshit in this game? is it wrong to not want to have to spam heavy attacks every single attack string?

Wait, Psycher's Seer's Presence doesn't stack? it's literally a 2.5% buff? that's shite

>>530222821
Pick a different weapon

>>530222261
This talent is the difference between a Psyker that knows how to play and one that doesn't. If a Psyker in your team isn't using this talent you shouldn't play with them. They're the people that think Psyker is squishy

>>530223581
id rather turn the difficulty down

Do we get a Drukhari enemy faction expansion with our Aeldari class DLC?

>>530223729
Right after jeanstealers.

>>530222821
>why do light attacks have to be considered such atrociously unusuable dogshit
Skill issue, negro.

>>530223868
meaningless copout

Wait where are the Maelstorm missions? I was away for a week, did they get merged into something like the auric difficulties?

You know, maybe zealot deserves to have relatively trash toughness generation for having several meter generation options?

>>530224223
they're in my pants after analyzing this image

>>530223729
>an entire teaser about desperate elves trying to contact a rogue trader vessel
>ah yes, clearly this means we'll get elves as an entire enemy faction where we kill thousands of them at a time
you serious?

>>530224336
the way you speak about their distance covering skill as "meter generation" is really poetic

>>530224482
Oh, you.

>>530224348
Enjoy getting your hips blasted by the female Ogryn Anon, tell me how Jurgen felt afterwards.

>>530224223
>Wait where are the Maelstorm missions?
Fagshart did an oopsie woopsie and now maelstroms can sometimes not even show on the mission board. Free update btw :)

>>530224463
Retarded enough to fit just right in 40K

Do you people unironically play heresy maelstroms?
Because not even once have I seen auric maelstrom missing.

>>530225043
You don't play enough. I almost exclusively play auric maelstroms, except when I'm doing havocs or quickplay with someone who prefers those. Maelstroms can and do just fucking vanish until most of the mission board has reset. It's rare! But it does happen.

You know what? Despite Grendyl's obstinance in trying to do whatever the fuck he is trying to do Rannick is doing quite an average job for someone that only has the equivalent of a Penal Regiment going against a Nurglite Cult + a traitor regiment with Daemon reinforcements.

>>530224463
>>an entire teaser about desperate elves trying to contact a rogue trader vessel
?? where

>>530226017
female CM's onlyfans page

>>530226017
In the new Mortis Trials lore for Brahms. There's apparently an Eldar ship in the sector that's been trailing the Mourning Star but keep their distance. Morrow thinks they might want something if they haven't been hostile yet and Rannick is annoyed at xenos being cryptic.

>>530225964
Interrogator Rannick getting worfed by some literal who no-name paranoid faggot inquisitor that is either too much of a pussy, or too much of an antagonistic retard to show his actual face really rustles my jimmies something fierce

>implying Grendyl actually exists
>implying it's not just Rannick who uses the idea of Grendyl like a lighting rod
You guys aren't paranoid enough to be proper inquisitors

>>530226545
Isn't the current theory that Grendyl is actually papa Brahps' ghost or something?

>Start blowing myself up
Time for eeps

>>530226975
>not taking crystalline will and +1 wound and sleepwalking your way through your fuckups like the most based of retards

Is it just me or daemon hosts are so fucking easily aggroed recently

>>530226823
It’s a theory based on next to nothing >>530225964
That’s some art of him and I agree.
>Daemon reinforcements
Not daemons. Daemonic beasts at best.

>>530226761
How can Rannick be the Inquisitor when he's clearly the true traitor

>>530227354
He's an inquisitor playing an interrogator who's subtly a true traitor but he's only playing the true traitor to make the true traitor come out to light.

>>530227315
I'm not aware of any changes to daemonhost AI, but doesn't nuncio aggro them with its massive suppression?
Also half of all players atm are blindly blasting their shotguns everywhere, power creep cop allows retarded tourists to infest aurics without going down too often to stop having fun, and most players just plain don't pay attention.

I've personally taken to just intentionally aggroing and killing daemonhosts in inopportune locations because SOME RETARD will always trigger them without fail, and then everyone panics.

>>530212970
>>530213231
>>530213513
Hasn’t FS taken like 4-5 months off at a time in the past before though?