DDepression edition

>Demo Days
Curent: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-62
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>530207468

I'll do it. I'll make a game. You'll see.

GABENNNNNNN SHOW ME THE WISHLIST DATA GABENNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>530294609 (OP)
oh wow an offtopic thumbnail size tranime in the OP during DD
epic

>>530294909
its 0

>>530294954
Non tranny thread >>530294785

>>530294954
Post DD depression is a common meme newfag

TRVTHNVKE: unless youre a lucky genius you only have 1 good idea in your lifetime, if you execute poorly on it its over
this unc made ghost in the shell and nothing but flops after that and ran back to making p*rn

>>530295121
Maybe if his art wasn't shit lel

>>530295121
I've posted at least 5 g-
Oh, good ideas. You're right, I have great ideas.

>>530295121
You just outed yourself as a pleb that doesn't know Appleseed

practice gratefulness, it'll make the process more enjoyable.

don't put off your happiness until you make it, be happy that you get to even make games.

Being a nice dev didn't work. Maybe being an evil dev will? A dev-il.

I just imagined a tall red haired woman with nice overbite eating a frozen treat with her teeth near my inground pool..... this is who I want to work on my game with me....

>>530294974
>averaging 15+ per day for months
>"ummmm yeah bro actually it's zero teehee"
kek, I love nodev seethe in the morning

youve heard of wasteland bites
but have you heard of
wasteland bus?
hehehehe

>>530294909
Why do you need to see it?

>>530297129
Neat. Is this a horror game?

>>530295121
Wrong, everything Shirow did pre-hentai was certified kino.
He chilled out and just drew hentai after an earthquake destroyed his studio.

Any of his series could have been the mega-hit that GitS was.
It comes down to releasing the right thing at the right time, with the right energy.

GitS took the groundwork of Appleseed and then solidified it with better plots and cyberpunk themes from William Gibson. It's about building off your previous successes, unfortunately games take too long to create.

The only reason anyone even knows GitS is because of the anime film, which took huge liberties with the source material anyways.

Anyways to tie it back to gamedev, you need to make your own luck. Be ready when the opportunities come.

>>530297129
crunchy ludokino

>>530297152
Are you retarded?

holy fuck babylonJS sucks dick for making vidya

why would I use this barebones Unity lmao what the fuck is this

It's great for websites 3D products and shit, but for WebGL games? fuck no

>>530297129
>low poly. de-saturated colors, CRT filter
Wow, feeling daring today, aren't we? I for one look forward to seeing the 8 trillionth game with this exact look and nothing even slightly interesting or unique about it. Good work soldier

>>530297129
>wasteland bus?
desert bus? yeah I have

Women love my game
Aggydaggers hate it

what does any of this mean?

>games

is it unethical to dev during demon day ?

>2 posts in the last hour
Wow, aggydaggy is genuinely dead.

Metroid.

Total demo downloads by country, bullish or bearish?

>>530301070
all me ;)

Sometimes I see a cute image of some anime girl but then I remember that it's actually game art I drew and someone else is just using it as their avatar image and I realized I tricked myself into liking something I'm not supposed to like

>>530302512
Get a grip, the Japanimation is rotting your brain

>>530302842
I'm sorry, I'll go back to self-loathing until someone tricks me into liking my own art again

>>530301070
The most successful DD games around here get what, 5-10 downloads max? Lol this is an absolutely insane level of mogging. Unrecoverable mog

>>530303130
it reaches a point where the numbers don't even compute with the cretins here, they hand wave it away and make some excuse as to why they're not actually eternally mogged and btfo by this

i will dev.. tomorrow

I remember occasionally reading this thread like a decade ago. How is it compared to back then? Less active I guess but are people putting out more or less games than back then?

>>530314695
full of schizos >>530294785

>>530297601
No. Now answer the question.

>>530314695
More games, less quality, more malicious posters.

Can I finally be on the pasta? I've been keep tracking of most of you and the curator page is quite nice to look at it
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/39041835/

i have an idea for a game, but i'm a turbo brainlet with no dev experience. between unity and unreal, which engine has the most resoures available for a retard to make a game that heavily utilizes procedural world generation and procedural animation.
i want to basically be able to build mechs that you can just slap parts together so something like pic related would sort of work out

bump

Vibe coding is great, chuds.

:D

>come up with a good name for your vidya
>look it up on steam just to be sure
>the search returns a 3D UE5 horror turd that sits on 5 reviews or is never released at all
>[repeat the above 5 times]

>>530344689
Cris what the fuck are you doing now?

how do i get good at character design

>>530357657
a hex editor so I can hack kof 2002 rom.

>>530360286
step 1: be female

Dad, are you in the inner circle?

>>530333227
It used to be Unity. Not sure nowadays.

>>530360286
Where is this from?

Haro Everynyan!

Devil Spire dev here. Devil Spire Falls, the open-world sequel, passed #1000 top sellers on Steam, so I can say I've made it!

This wouldn't happen without your help and honest feedback on the game, and my previous ones, throughout the years, so I wanted to thank you all with some keys!

And remember, WORK ON YOUR FUCKING GAME, and we'll all GMI!!

>>530421708
Based

>>530421708
thanks for the free game! I actually bought the first a few days ago, really fun.

>>530421708
Thanks, bro, and congratulations! We all gonna make it!

>>530356714
Two games can have the same name on Steam

>>530421708
gz dude well deserved for all your work

Give gamers what they desire.

>>530454919
you posted this already and nobody responded

I wish I could just kidnap an artcel and make them draw all the assets for me. Keep them in my closet and feed them dog food.

>>530421708
Is Steam having a slow month or something

>>530333227
To do this right you are going to have to do it yourself, so basically any indie friendly 3D engine. Unity, Godot, unreal.

This guy has a tutorial on procedural animations in Unity though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPoeNZZ6H4s I hope you are good at math anon

And just like that another two sellouts get kicked out of what was once their company.

how do i cut all contact with the outside world (except for my mom and going to the store) so i can focus on my game
i guess i just want to quit the internet mainly, which is impossible when i have to make my game on a computer

>>530463736
I did this for an entire year and while it was lonely, it was also the most productive I have ever been.

What I did to make sure I stopped coming back was I went to /g/ and posted a shitty thread. They frequently hand out 30 day site-wide bans on that board, so once I got banned I didn't have a reason to keep coming back.

>>530421708
>5 codes
>only 2 thank yous
>tried some, taken already
You other guys could at least have made it obvious if you took a code -_-

How long do you think it will be in early access?

I don't even know if this is a reasonable thing to worry about on multiple different levels, but I've been making small games just as learning exercises for a bit now, starting with following tutorials into doing my own. I think it's mostly been going well, though it's a bit of a hard thing to judge because I don't have a point of reference for how far along others may be after having worked on this stuff for the same amount of time or whatever, but something I've become increasingly concerned with since I started making games without tutorials is that I've become more and more reliant on AI to help me.

Early on I tried to just figure stuff out with documentation or what I could find online, but when AI works it works well enough that it feels like it really outclasses any other options for figuring stuff out. I still hope to actually feel like I understand what I'm doing and maybe even like I would be able to make the kind of small projects I'm doing now without relying on AI someday, but I often worry I'm just getting the AI to do everything for me. I never copy and paste code and try not to proceed from any topic unless I feel I understand what some script is doing, even if that script is just repeating what the AI gave me, and I even try rewriting what the AI gave me from memory a few times sometimes, but I still worry I'm over-reliant on it. Is this even something worth worrying about so long as it's getting results?

>>530467101
If you're at the point where you could be doing most stuff by yourself without having to look up documentation/tutorials/forum questions, then it might be that AI is stunting your growth. But if you'd be still be using tutorials, then it's the same shit, might as well use AI if it's quicker

>>530464130
We need chicken jockey part deux

>>530467101
It will be a problem once you try to make a bigger game. AI isn't much harm for small shit

>>530467101
Colleagues at my company plop shit directly from ChatGPT into the codebase. As long as you understand what it's giving you, you're fine. Just be aware of how easily it hallucinates nonexistent functions and mixes up old and new versions of libraries.

>>530463518
This is why I'm a solodev

>confront my dev rival
>me: "It's almost like you're working in binary, and I'm working in trinary"
>him: "More like try-hard-nary"

How did they make this?

Today I gave everything a uint32_t identifier.
14 bits for flags, 6 for Area, 6 for Room, 6 for Entity/Object.
That's 64 total areas, 64 rooms per area, and 64 entities/objects per room in an area. With a bunch of slots leftover that can be repurposed.

I also made a time system that has around 4million ticks for 24 years of game play (it's an artificial cut-off, could add more or increase by an 'era' or something), with 12 months and 12 days per month. As well as 8 enums for early/late morning/afternoon/evening/night.
Getting down the UID system will help before I move to some kind of basic markov-chain weather system that's area-global, and incorporating light level with time that's global-global.

>>530294609 (OP)
bros...
I have this idea on my head to make a game, but I barely know stuff about programming (I learned some c and c# at school, but just basic stuff).
How should I make a game to put it on steam? is there any recommended way to "start making it"?
Last time I checked, there was a lot of hate against unity (I did some stuff for personal use for android there before).
Also, are there any legal repercusions if I leave users use their own "sprites"? I'm thinking of making a game which will allow you to add your custom skins somehow to some objects, but seein how this could maybe... be missused, I'm wondering if it'd make me at fault if someone uses a dick pick as a skin, and then uploads it as "this game has dicks on it".

>derek.bmp

Hello /agdg/
>post progress
no

i love working in s&box a lot but i dont give a SHIT about garry's "platform" at all, theres still major breaking changes happening, theres and still no word on valve giving the OK to standalone games
i cant go back to unity bros, i cant, ive seen the light and its beautiful

Yall ever asked chatgpt for game ideas?

>>530516723
No you're a retarded nigger

>>530520451
Put one of your dumb ideas into and see what it says

>>530516723
Yes. The weirdest part was seeing how interested in helping me just like make a game the answer it gave me made it seem, compared to AGDG that would have just ignored my question.

>>530294609 (OP)
when you dont know if your ghosting shader is working or it's just v-sync fucking up his shoe

>>530543328
He's too fast, your display just can't keep up.

>>530543692
jej

>>530329645
Fine by me but there's no coordination, you'll probably have to go and add yourself

>>530484002
you might not be in a retard-off with a "rival" if you knew it was ternary

Where did all the orblikes go?

well aggydaggers ?

reminder that tiny triangles stall the gpu

Do you guys only do AGDG demos or actually work on other jams on itch.io?
Some of them look interesting and might actually make you do work.

I want to work on my game but I badly have to take a massive shit
But a repair man is supposed to come to my apartment any minute so I can't go to the bathroom
Any dev tips for this situation?

so are the top games from 'cord ? I've never seen them posted here except ninja game

>A point and click/VN style porn game about being sexually harassed
Is this unironically a good idea?
There are so many f protag games of this nature, I'm assuming a lot of the market is self inserting.

I need a level designer...

Veteran indie dev says success on Steam these days is impossible to predict: 'Why did Balatro take off? You could write a million f***ing essays and none of them will be definitely right'

>>530557923
Ranking is done by itch. I've seen a good amount of those posted here.

>>530557923
Shanghai gold and Kyubu Kyubu are posted here all the time

Threadly reminder that a screenshot of a retarded post is still retarded and you shouldn't engage with it just because it has been screenshotted

>>530301070
heres mine
i bring the whole world together in harmony

>>530295121
good ideas come from actually learning philosophy, politics, religion, economics, history, literature, mythology, game design.

You wont get good ideas if you don't understand what entails a good idea on a archetypical jungian framework.

This is like claiming that you only have a single good drawing, or a single good story to tell, instead of learning the fundamentals of those skills.

It's time to get real

>>530557923
you would be surprised but some of them are the most unpopular
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/530112781/#530159660

aw, it is what it is

>>530559352
>would tear their own hair out if they saw the sort of derivative garbage this place outputs
>And then you have the balls to try and act like this place is some sort of bastion of free thought?
>I want you to be a little more honest with yourselves.
>Use your brains. Think outside the box.
Again, it's good to know that we're getting an agreement.

To the guy from the last thread complaining about lack of native UMG controller support in UE, the below plugin literally saved my life. It's a pain moving all of your existing widgets to the new UINav parent class and it's not perfect, but my game works perfectly on my steam deck and xbox controller without any issues at all now

https://github.com/goncasmage1/UINavigation

>>530333227
My advice is that left that idea on the backlog and focus on developing skills.

You're asking for an idea that clearly is not a begginer product.

Both unity and godot can do it.

Your issue is actually more related to learning CS and math with a bit of learning low poly, more than something related to unity and godot.

I've literally made tools that read the hardrive and some dude made a MIDI daw, another guy made a basic operative system clone and another made a 3D pixel art renderer with godot.

So clearly godot can do what you want.

>>530559619
Thanks anon.
I wrote my own years ago.
I just think it's a stupid oversight by Epic.

>>530490886
unity

close the thread and get work done

>>530559759
It is definitely an oversight and something that caused me an unbelievable amount of seethe lol

Learning math and CS fundamentals is great, and make you stop being a tutorial boy into a gamedev programmer artist.

you can do shit like proc gen, utility goal oriented AI, shader magic, interactive procedural music that reads a MIDI file.

But only if you actually spend time learning autismo wizard shit.

>>530294609 (OP)
GUYS GUYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O19mDanbJM

>a fully 3d game
>on the NES
>in 1989
what's your excuse?

>>530558539
Kind of yeah. You can see what makes games successful but it is impossible to predict what will be the next big thing on steam. Shit no one outside of valve has a clue how the algorithm works. The video valve put out "explaining" how it works was full of lies too, like
>We'll never give a banner to an early access game
and
>AAA games don't get favors
Then SMITE 2, an early access AAA game, got a banner a couple months later.
They changed their mind I guess.

>>530560347
>fully 3d
no

>>530560391
yes, it even has the vaporwave 3d palm trees

>>530558935
what even is the ranking? a lot of the bottom games have a ton of comments which i assume correlates with views/downloads, and the inverse for some of the top row games

>>530560382
if vs was priced at $10, it would have way less sales. alot of people were wiling to overlook it's flaws because of its price point. $5 is also seen as a low investment price to give a game a try past the refund window.

>>530560809
example?

>>530556723
no time for jams

>>530560809
The ranking is global, it’s not specific to the jam. At least it didn’t use to be. Seems there is some new tech that tries to detect entirely new uploads gaining traction, and boosts them. Idk if globally or just in the jam.

>>530560809
It's like views, and how new the game is. Unlisted games are always on the bottom.

biteme is getting closer to the gmi territory. i can't wait to spit shine the bowling balls and pins once it comes out for hours on end.

shut the fuck up cris

>>530561108
bro comes up with "new ideas" more than cris does

>>530303130
Nah, e.g. Ctesiphon’s charts have been posted now and then, the game gets a couple downloads every day on itch even off DD. The same is true for all the coom games at the very least.

>>530557923
Yes this is all discord trannies with the exception of NinjaGame (local GMIdev) and Alchimera (whodev outsider tranny)

>>530561108
let me guess, job simulator with horror elements?
also
>buy an ad

>>530560607
>>530560607
>can literally see the isometric grid
is this baiting?

you could have used like, the NES version of Elite or whatever for this post.

So many devs copy what already exist and think it's going to be better because "they" made it. That's just the ego talking. Nobody will give you more than a single glance, so make it count.

>>530561108
Their Medieval Nazi Zombies idea is decent.
Dunno why they don't throw everything they've got into that instead of fucking around with a bunch of shit ideas.

>>530561485
>Their Medieval Nazi Zombies idea is decent
I don't even know what you're talking about but I already know you're retarded

Is this code good enough?

I can't trully automatized with functions, but I still feel like a pajeet writing this.

>>530561481
Originality is overrated.

>>530461797
>I hope you are good at math anon
it's called AI, anon, use it

>>530561618
They're making a COD nazi zombies clone but set in medieval times. I don't think they've shown it off yet.

>>530561714
where's your successful "clone but worse" game?

The old CryEngine that released around the time of Crysis 3, now that was a good ass engine. It's a shame you can no longer use it or find it anywhere.

>>530561823
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1492070/Sker_Ritual/
something liek this?

>>530561875
CryEngine 5 is good too.

>>530561823
a competent dev could make a fun game out of that but, be for real, its marnix lol

>>530561823
appealing to /r/eddit is a sign of desperation and it never works out because the group you're trying to market towards doesn't buy video games

Threadly reminder that even gamedev success can be a trap.
Imagine your game earns you 10 years of income. Would you quit your job and start making games full time? If so, you'd have fallen into the same trap I did.
The crux of the trap is the time you spend as a gamedev will count against you if ever need to get a job again. And the ironic thing is the more successful you are, the more dangerous the trap will be unless you earn enough money to never need a job again.
The only way full-time gamedev would be sustainable is if your games keep earning you at least a year of expenses for every year worked... until you're literally 75. And I do mean literally. When you're 72, you'll need to sit down and make a game that earns you 3 years of expenses. Anything short of that and you'll eventually run out of money. And when you do, you'd have been 10-15-20 years out of the job market and good luck getting a job with an employment gap that big.
When you run out of money, it can take as little as a couple of months for your life to be ruined. That's what happened to me. I found myself broke at 45 and no job for the past 15 years except making games. And I'm looking at 30 more years of having to survive. I can't get job interviews, I can't afford to keep working on games, and I'm too old to get into trades. My life is probably fucked because my first project earned me 10 years of income and I quit my job like a dumb ass.
Anyway, the point of this is to warn you: DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOBS UNLESS YOU EARNED ENOUGH MONEY TO NEVER NEED A JOB AGAIN. If my warning saves even a couple of you, it's worth it.
And remember that I'm not trying to discourage you from making your game, just from going full-time before you get fuck-you-money.

>>530561664
Do you have a SWE degree? No? Then who cares, if it works and doesn't slow down the user's computer then it's fine.

>>530561916
I dunno anything about that game but I think it's more like the traditional nazi zombies where you need to defend a location, board up windows, etc. And no guns. Just polearms, swords and bows.

I've been thinking of making something similar but it would play like Dark Souls/Elden Ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDILAYlYJLg
Why would you pay $700 a year to be taught by a person who doesn't even know what he's doing?

>>530562036
i'm more concerned about the fact that im still a toy maker at 45, i'm just using this as a way to branch out into something more respectable

When will I know that I need a loading screen?

>>530562072
Why do non coderfags don't care about improving their coding skill?

Is not about functional code, is about getting better.

Why do non drawfags don't care about improving their art skill?

Is not about beautiful art, is about getting better.

>>530562519
>he's not grinding all his gamedev skills at once

>>530562636
>his name is Cristian Ceron

>>530562036

I have an idea but I can't really tell you guys what it is. Just think rocket league 4v4 but the physics aren't as tight and more similar to pong. What challenges am I going to run into besides getting a playerbase?
I will be paying for dedicated servers since it'll be a competitive game so what else is there to be concerned about?
Want to mention that I have no experience in making multiplayer games.

>>530561858
Sorry, I'll leave making "worse" games for you.

>>530561664
Looks fine to me. Not sure how else you'd do it in a better + more readable way

>>530562783
make pong first then multiplayer pong and then keep expanding it until it fits your vision of the final game.

>>530562773
>5 year gap
It's so fucking over.

>>530562773
>retard doesn't know how to do corp to corp contracting/consulting with his tech skills
that's just natural selection. being 45 is a boon when applying to a consulting role, they refuse to hire young guys for those roles

>>530562519
Dunno. Personally I can't understand at all people that don't try to improve.

Game developer Eric Barone, known as ConcernedApe, told Anadolu Agency (AA) that he started developing games while looking for a job after completing his computer science education. He grew up playing games and loved games that offered imaginary worlds to explore, and that he developed his "dream game" Stardew Valley by drawing inspiration from his childhood love of gaming.
"The world can be chaotic and stressful," Barone said, describing games like "Stardew Valley" and "Harvest Moon" as "relaxing and healing." "Going out, going to work, all of that can trigger the urge for people to come home and relax and escape to a place where they feel comfortable. You're looking for something to relieve stress. So it depends on what people are looking for in their lives. But as the world gets crazier, maybe people are looking for a comfortable escape," he said.
The developer stated that he viewed the blurring of the line between reality and the game world as a negative, emphasizing that people should remember the line between the two worlds.
Barone explained that he is concerned about the digitalization of many things in the future, where everything is done through the internet, phones, and screens without interacting with people, and pointed out that this is socially negative.
Barone stated that he is not advocating that games should be abandoned completely, but that the effects and consequences of this habit should be considered.
According to Barone, the fact that so many things are digital right now diminishes "the spirit of being and living."
"People shouldn't allow themselves to be completely digital," "It's funny, but as a game developer, it's my job to create fake digital worlds for people. But I still think it should be like a toy. Something you mess with every now and then and it's interesting. But our main focus in life shouldn't be to exist in a digital metaverse. It's not good for people and it doesn't make them happy in the end."

>>530562918
You know what, that's not a terrible idea. I have the vision but I wasn't sure if I was capable of doing so coding wise. I'll start with 1v1 first then add more players once it gets working.

>>530562773
Just fucking lie bro, nobody's checking your credentials anyway

>>530562773
can't you mitigate this by doing some volunteer work?

>>530562773
Just say you were in a comma for 15 years... that's my plan at least.

>>530563297
there are about 10 trillion ways to mitigate this problem if you arent retarded, that guy is just a loser if he's even a real person and not just a troll persona

>>530563393
that's my favorite copypasta here

Arguing that some games are like "life simulations," Barone pointed out that activities such as building houses and interacting instinctively please people.
However, Barone pointed out that these games, described as a "comfortable escape," provide an "escape from reality" and that there is a risk of spending too much time in the virtual world.
Barone, the game's developer, emphasized the importance of how games are developed and used, saying that game developers must take responsibility for "doing the right thing."

>>530563125

>>530559050
>>530301070
How do you check per country downloads? Is that a google analytics thing

>>530563768
steam

>>530563297
like what?

>>530562964
>>530563393
you sound like a recent graduate nepo baby who got a job at his dad's college buddy's company

>>530563694
Get a friend to lie for you.
>Oh yeah he totally worked at blizzard for 5 years. Yes I am the Mr. Blizzard thank you for asking.

>>530563019
If your game is going to be 3D, then start with 3D pong even if the camera is top-down.

>>530294609 (OP)
wait, did this retard keep bumping his moldy thread for 2 days with garbage throwaway posts KEK

>>530563615
>writing a post like it's some filler article in a 00s game magazine
i hope you hate yourself as much as it seems

>>530562783
My hot take:
Official servers + matchmaking + competitive only makes sense if you sell MTX on players.
If you’re not going the MTX route, just release an official dedicated server that anyone can host; and host only the master server yourself.
Your game will not have players, so you will need decent bots.
For netcode, if you have no experience, you will either want to get deeply familiar with the topic OR find an extremely easy to use off-the-shelf solution. Fortunately you will only have 8 players and 1 ball, so it shouldn’t be too hard to set up. – Look into the trade-offs of different solutions, obviously you will want something that optimizes for local perceived latency, else driving the car will feel very bad.

>>530562121
>It's a Thomas posts a video from his podcast as a real video Episode

-_-'

>>530563842
>like what?
Contribute to some open source projects? Duh?

Is it true if your game has skeletons that it can be sold in chyna?

>>530564263
Yes.

Barone noted that people should take responsibility and be careful not to become addicted, adding that money is made through addiction.
He also mentioned that the games he likes are somewhat addictive, emphasizing that their fun nature is a result of this, which is why people keep playing the games again and again. He pointed out that games technically have an addictive quality, and that the reward system, in particular, affects the level of dopamine in the brain. He said that in some games, providing immediate rewards for an action "hijacks the brain," and that accelerating this process too much can be problematic. He pointed out that achieving goals in realistic timeframes in games shouldn't be artificial, saying, "If you get the reward too quickly, it might not be easy for you in the real world. It's a bit difficult. You have to work to get the reward. So if you've trained yourself to expect immediate rewards for everything in a video game, you're going to have a hard time when you get out into the real world. But if you have to actually work for rewards in the game, it trains you to know that you're going to have to work a little harder to get the reward." He emphasized that products should be promoted honestly, that if people were interested, they would try it, and that it was important that people were not forced or directed to do so.
Barone, who stated that otherwise people would be pressured into making their choices, said, "At this point, you become a kind of 'drug dealer.' You try to get people addicted to your game. And when they get addicted, you start taking money from them. I feel bad about doing something like that. It's not the right treatment."
Barone also pointed out that friendships and communities are formed with other people, and that the sector provides many jobs; new fields such as Twitch streamers and professional video game players have emerged.
According him, the "soul" of businesses is being destroyed when they are focused on making money.

>>530562121
Honestly I wouldn't pay Thomas Brush for anything. Every year he makes me lose a little more respect for him.

>>530564035
tranime freaks have no lives

>>530507263
>>530510182
>>530516723
>>530532652
>>530543328
holy shit this is making me laugh so hard, this guy kept bumping this for days LMFAOOOOOO
this is fygoon tier behavior, hell maybe not even fygoon is this pathetic. well thanks for the laugh reading your posts, vindicated in never taking feedback from the schizos in here

>>530563842
ask for work for nonprofit organizations. all you need is prove that you can work with other people.
>>530564001
it's 2d topdown and there are ball physics similar to breakout.

When do we get the big Thomas Brush takedown by Coding Jesus. When Jon Blow.

>>530564306
isn't he the guy that made airpear? his game flopped because he's a bad gamedev, so why listen to his advice?

>>530562121
Poisontale actually looked cool.
He should go back to that.

>>530564306
He thinks he's HIM.

>>530564605
Thomas Brush is actually successful, so it's a good thing he doesn't listen to the unsolicited advice of random /agdg/ posters.

>>530530284
I'm hoping to submit next DD mayhaps

>>530564436
Thomas doesnt' pretend to be good at programming or game design. He says he's shit at both.

NEETdevs are nepobabies

What's harder, being a successful game developer or being a successful Game Dev Guru type youtube channel?

>>530564450
It flopped because it was a low effort project prompted by stardew burnout and probably the desire to get a little income stream going to help out with the bills

>>530564691
It does look cool tho...

>>530562279
you're in entertainment, just like George Lucas or Quentin Tarantino or JK Rowling. the main difference is you're making interactive entertainment and your potential ROI is much higher than theirs.

>>530564645
this guy was so dumb. he could have used billions in heroin money to hire lobbyists and think tanks and make a counter to AIPAC.

>>530564383
wat

>>530564930
whichever one you're worse at

>>530559902
do I need to pay some license to publish a game on steam?
where can I check he prices?

>>530565224
https://unity.com/products

>>530565224
you don't need to pay anything until your game earns $200k a year.

>>530564306
Cool. Source?

>make the game you wanna play, they said
*sighs* fine, i'll re-implement blender

>>530565224
I'm glad I don't have to worry about this shit anymore

>>530333227
>procedural world generation
what, are you gonna make a roguelike or something? I feel like this is a common trap to fall into

trying to make an /egg/ game though?

>>530564930
I feel like the youtube thing is harder to find success at.
You need to be decent at gamedev + physically attractive + charismatic.
And even then the top youtube devs really don't get that much in terms of views.
Thomas and Code Monkey get like 10-30k views. Juniperdev (even with the attractive female buff) gets a couple hundred thousand.

>>530490886
>Also, are there any legal repercusions if I leave users use their own "sprites"? I'm thinking of making a game which will allow you to add your custom skins somehow to some objects, but seein how this could maybe... be missused, I'm wondering if it'd make me at fault if someone uses a dick pick as a skin, and then uploads it as "this game has dicks on it".
If the modification is only local (not propagated to other people via multiplayer or so) - completely irrelevant. Cf. all the Morrowind futa mods and what not.
If it’s supposed to be publishable: Look into Steam Workshop, it’s the whole platform for UGC already laid out including moderation, legal, etc.
>>530565224
Maybe you should explain a bit more what kind of game you want to make, Unity is not worse than other choices, but look into shit like GameMaker or ClickTeam Fusion which are a bit simpler, perhaps sufficient for your idea if it’s just 2D.

>original plan was to make it PSX so I can get it out quick
>start thinking how much more effort it would take to bring it up to modern standards using assets and all that

Am I making a mistake?

Man. Hard to concentrate on game dev when the fucking leaf blower guy is out there all day every day. He is out there so often that my noise-cancelling headphones ran out of battery, haha.

>>530421708
How long did it take to make?

>>530565793
why are leaves falling off in the middle of summer?

>>530565793
Leaf Blower Simulator where you gotta annoy as many people as possible

>>530565129
This is the plot for my videogame any resemblance to real life events is just a coincidence: He had lung cancer, he didn't do 9/11 if that's what you're implying his second in command was moving the jihad to Palestine and was immediately assassinated, Bin Laden was at a hospital in Qatar or UAE iirc during 9/11 but he refused chemo, he originally denied any involvement and only in his "tapes" years later say he did it. He died a few years later in 2006 or something from the cancer, the Pakistani president of that time Benazir Bhutto announced it on tv and got killed a few days later.

>>530563842
>you sound like a recent graduate nepo baby who got a job at his dad's college buddy's company
crazy levels of projection going on here

>>530421708
We're all going to make it.

>>530565923
It's not about leaves. In america it's common for cities to hire landscaping companies to go around with a leaf blower every day to clean up trash and dust.

>>530565793
he's actually working for a living while you're in your room making toys and gooning

>>530566129
LAMO

>>530565164
yeah ok you just randomly decided to bump a dying 2 days old thread LMFAO

>>530566143
Hey you never know, the game might make some money. What is "gooning?"

>my game engine finally reaches the point where it can render photorealistic liminal spaces
>the liminal space genre is dead

guyth i dont have a story for my game, just good art and environments. and exploring and stuff.


>>530566349
kek no its not just add stupid hazbin hotel/dandys world/amazing digital circus or whatever the fuck retard coded characters and retardsll love it

The meta just changed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDILAYlYJLg

can you get people to play your game even for free?
if not, how are you planning to sell it?

>>530562036
Being broke is better than being corporate.
Besides, I've proven to myself that I can make my money last a long time and live frugally if I have to. I've proven I can invest as well if I have to. I've proven that I can make money even when I had worse skills and that I'm making more and more so even if AI does become a problem, I'm vastly outpacing the development of AI (which, in my own experience having tried it before it became popular, has progressed at a sluggish pace anyway)

Even if the exponential growth of gamedev continues, my competitors will be years behind me in skill.

nigga I'm boutta GO KEKOO

>>530566020
>the Pakistani president of that time Benazir Bhutto announced it on tv and got killed a few days later.
Kino
>>530566129
The absolute state
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy_MtgvoL5w
>>530566349
Who tf cares, I wanna see your game on DD

>>530565625
I want to make something like "moon landing", but instead of having to land on a planet, it'd be launching a rocket from one planet to reach another, and the gravity of other planets would affect your course.
I want to have many rocket boosters to help on the launch/impulse/derection which will detach after the gas runs out on each of them, but I was thinking about letting the player to use custom images to have "funny looking rocket/boosters".
I'm not a fan of using pixlelart, but neither I'm an artist, so I'm still wondering how to make it (maybe start with simple 2d pixelarta and see if changing that to another thing would be good after having something working).
I'm not too connected to the actual published games so I'm not sure if anything like this already exists.

>>530565518
please elaborate

>>530566908
sorry I don't engage in homosexual /d/iscord behaviors

Whatever happened to this game?

>swedish death cleaning simulator
>will writing simulator
>coffin builder simulator

>>530566794
so how many reviews do all of your games have in total so far?

>>530567123
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63/rate/3663721

crazy that 2 games can copy another and get a totally different reception
void war is a 1:1 copy of ftl with warhammer coat and the pigs love it, signal is a 1:1 copy of RE with blame! evangelion coat and the transbian xisters love it
really makes you think long and hard about the randomness of the jobby

>I'm good at art
Are you really? In the first place, a good illustrator refers to him or her self as an illustrator. He or she doesn't use the blanket term "art." Doing so is indicative of a person lacking both technical skill and practical experience. I would love to see your "game" that has "good art."

I'm so much happier since I left this putrid shithole and all the retarded dingleberries that live here 24/7.

>>530567294
I see

>>530567390
You never left you're still here and the place is bad because of YOU>>530567497
>Anonymous 07/09/25(Wed)10:15:00 No.530567497▶

>>530567380
retard

>>530567176
I try to avoid reading reviews because I'm soft. I have no idea how many reviews I have.

>530567752
>replying to it
retard

>>530567806
Me too. I used inspect-element / adblock to block the review score section of the steam store pages, and the review space at the bottom of the store page.

I also don't even check the steam community posts, except for the pinned bug / technical support threads I created, and I have those bookmarked so I can go straight to those threads without seeing if anyone created new threads.

The only thing I track is sales

I give up, actually.

>>530567984
what? he's a retard

I am glad I've been making my own inhouse toolset of gamedev apps for godot since february.

Finally I would be able to make a JRPG in a weekend with them.

your NGMI transcoded feedback is dogshit and I'm ignoring it

>>530568038
>>530567806
I do this but not because I'm afraid of some retard's bad review or whatever. I just straight up do not care what you think of my game. I spent years making this thing and I know it better than anyone else.

Your surface level "feedback" is even lower than worthless to me. I don't care what you think about how a character moves or some surface level game mechanic. That's the point of the game. Players are cattle to me. They will eat whatever I feed them.

>>530568590
go away

>>530565603
my idea is mostly just about post-apocalyptic exploration. finding parts and resources as you go from an unending wasteland

>>530568728
I'm just, I'm just not gonna read your review

>>530568961
go away

>>530568854
im gonna stela that thanks

>>530569065
fine gosh

>>530567806
so... you wouldn't say you don't even have a game?

does anyone here actually use git?

fuck gamedevs

>>530569596
NO FFUCK YOU NIGGER

>>530569596
wtf, she has bazonkers ?

I'm out, fuck this hobby.

>>530569596
why tits so big?

>try to make a good looking 3d environment in blender
>it's literally impossible
it's over

>>530568038
I check absolutely everything except for reviews and pirate threads. Those specific things can keep to themselves.
I didn't expect to get replies validating me

>>530569157
I have a game.

>>530569128
I came back. I missed you guys

I’m so O for outta here because it’s so O for over

>>530570086
Why pirate threads? Isn't it a good thing if someone liked the game enough to pirate it?

>>530316257
>more games
i hope you arent counting the discord-only games

>>530570531
If it's posted in the thread then it's not discord-only, genius

>>530570385
The less someone pays for a game, the more brutal and unfair they'll be about it.
There are no customers worse than the ones who paid nothing for your game. If you think the cuphead journalists are bad you've seen nothing like the braindead mongoloids that post in pirate threads.

>>530569687
shes working age

Is gdevelop good? My only skill is drawing and programming hurts my brain I'm dumb.

>>530570824
That's a foreign concept to me. I thought it would be the same as if your game was free on Steam. They're a lot nicer if a game is free. But if they have to pay money for it, then they're a little more harsh.

>>530561329
never seen paloodev in the discord server

>>530571038
It's definitely not like that. Your paying customers are the kindest. They not only have the generosity to actually give you money but they like your product enough to put money down for it.

If they don't spend money, they're not invested. They're bums loitering and looking for something to satisfy them. They don't care much if the game succeeds or fails.
They feel entitled. They're demanding. Should ask what someone's experience at a soup kitchen is. Serving hobos free food likely has the same problem.

I just found and read a demand moments ago where someone was demanding another content update for free players.
It's been 1 month since the last free update.

>>530570804
like the demo day page isnt flooded with discord only shit, when its supposed to be a 4chan jam. being a retarded splinter group off agdg doesnt count

>>530566289
sir this is a general

Progress time. Post-DD edition.
Revamped the entire companion summoning mechanic. Made it more like a rogue-like where you can reroll by sacrificing items from your inventory to get better, or worse, options.
I restricted the summoning to only 1 companion per summoning tile to force the player to explore and find more summoning tiles.

>be neet
>actually got serious about making a game
>quit all my coping mechanisms
>lost my friend
>getting older
>life is worse than ever
if i fail at this i might actually kms.

i love scope creep that probably doesnt even work and will probably end up regretting

>>530561329
i'm not in the discord albeit

>>530571884
>>530571928
>posting progress on the bocchi general

>>530572020
At least they got progress to post :(

show me your opening movies agdg, you do have an opening before the title screen right?

what is with gamedev and degenerate pedophiles

what spells or abilities would a cum witch have?

>>530572338
giving birth to black children of course

'cord is here (you can tell by the pedophilia and boshart the reddit mention)

>>530572496

>>530571928
Hey you're not supposed to make a game about selling potions, that is my turf

>>530572012
Yeah you are retard. We can see you posting your trashy game and sucking up to the cool kids literally all the time

i think tower defense is the most meta genre

>>530572338
I don't have an answer for you, but I just had an idea for a minigame you could add.
You play as the ovum fighting off sperm, Vampire Survivors style, if you fail the cum witch gets pregnant.

Maybe the discord posters are the real agdg...

>>530571908
>if i fail at this i might actually kms.
don't fucking fail then

>>530572308
high test
high IQ
Slav, Brahmin, or Ashkenazi

>>530573184
>stealthily tries to lump pajeets in there

>>530573386
that's the joke, they're all subhuman
im afraid you're NGMI

>>530561329
I'm not an outsider, I only posted once pics of my models few days before demo day because I didn't want to be seen as whodev. I post here regularly, I just don't avatarpost.

The raylib community is similar to agdg. Ray asked on twitter for people to send footage of their game to feature in his 2025 raylib showcase video. I sent footage, but he didn't use it because I didn't post it in the discord. You need to be active in discords for everything now, and I have discord fatigue.

>>530574245
> and I have discord fatigue.
Yeah and the message notification but it doesn’t show which server or dm it was in

>>530572496
fagtroon moment

>>530574245
This is why I refuse to make a discord for my game. It's so faggoty. You do not deserve 24/7 access to the dev of your game, go share porn and shitty tranny memes somewhere else thanks

My game has progressed from hobby, to jobby, to just plain old job. It's over.

>have to watch an entire 100% longplay [no commentary] let's play of Undertale and Deltarune to make sure I'm not inadvertently stealing any jokes
I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY GAME!!!!!!!!

>>530575651
The meta is to make a discord for your fans and join it, but barely ever post so you can be worshiped as a mysterious king figure

>>530574245
Man I need to get my dogshit game in one of those showcase videos

>>530576185
Have you tried making a good game that people want to showcase?

>good
doesnt exist

seeing what people actually spend money on will radicalize you

>>530576778
check the popular incoming section on steam if you want to become misanthropic

New stuff to break. Kludge Demo's up if anyone wants to try it.

>>530572338
sperma dentata

>>530577359
I want that bot that fights back

>>530575939
This hobby really is just for people who were complete losers in high school and are desperately seeking to be at the top of a social food chain for once in their lives. Holy shit. Lmao

>Devil Spire Falls already got more reviews in 2 days than Marmoreal got in a year
What is it about the Early access open world survival sim with crafting and base building formula that sucks players towards it like bees to honey?

>>530577967
or people that just have fun making games

how many discord friends and connections have you made?
>tfw only 2 after this year...

>>530577972
He had an existing playerbase of thousands of players, for starters

why doesnt anyone want to play as my self insert protagonist?

>>530577967
Do you realize you're talking to a future milionaire?

>>530454919
kannadev, how can I get good at 3d modelling :/ I want to make qt anime models for my game.

I need help.

I have a point-and-click adventure engine I built, but I want to add animations to the background image of each scene.
Like add a fire animation to the empty fireplace.
Has to be like APNG or similar, displayed in browser. Do I have any options here? Maybe I'm thinking of this the wrong way?

>>530577359
I haven't seen this yet but this is gmi material

>>530577972
People love low skill repetitive boring busy work. Not trying to slander his game just the genre. It just attracts a lot of people. I couldn't tell you why, I don't get it. Good for him, though I hope he has much success.

>>530574245
>Compilation of some projects made with raylib and shared on raylib Discord community.
>Compilation of some projects made with raylib and shared on raylib Discord on August 2024.
>Compilation of some projects made with raylib and shared on raylib Discord on June 2023.
It will be next year anon
>>530576185
There's even a sudoku

>it doesn't work

>>530561226
this image is outdated

>>530578080
If that were true you wouldn't be completely obsessed with the idea of ruling over a bunch of retards in a discord server lawl

>>530294609 (OP)
Progress report for my game, Wagie Run
>First section 1 (from start to checkpoint 1) of the level is done + furnishes
>Still stutter whenever new sound clip played

Next progress, will be section 2 which spans from checkpoint 1 to checkpoint 2. The map will narrow down, and the player will traverse along a mildly packed alleyway and walkways filled with props and fellow waggie NPC that stands in your way as obstacles.

>>530577359
This looks really promising ngl

>>530577359

>>530575939
I've made a Discord for my fans but there's only me in it???

>>530578708
Same but also like 8 bots trying to get me to sign up to their scam service.

>>530572338
Testicular torsion

>>530577701

There is one in the tutorial, I have a lot of enemy types planned

>>530578665
Why is this not a phone game

>>530578912
I am planning to release it on android after the PC tho

>>530578912
this reminds me how i tried going through the app store for games and one of fthe top ones was a shitty katamari ripoff
is it that easy to make bank on phone games

>>530577972
>>530578414
The hoops you people have to jump through to avoid admitting that marmoreal just isn't that great lol

can someone code my cutscene and dialogue system in godot?

>>530561226
>>530578579
Now imagine doing a compilation of all his ideaguy moments or his prototypes. I thought to save them once but at the second screencap I got bored kek

I made a discord for my game, but it was just me until a weird guy joined who liked talking about psychedelics. Finally someone else joined who seemed to like the game, but he caught us in the middle of a conversation about shadow people or something.

>>530579224
https://github.com/dialogic-godot/dialogic

>>530579330
remember when he tried making a porn game with the ultra low poly block people and got banned because he posted genitals? that dude is going to hurt someone he needs to be locked up

>>530577359
this looks viral. Which engine?

>>530579141
What are you talking about? I said literally nothing about marmoreal you fucking schizo. I actually had to look up marmomeal and I wanted to say something positive about it just to piss you off but fortunate for you I think it looks like shit. Don't @ me faggot

The crabs all say it's perfect until it releases. Then it's the worst ever. GET A FUCKING JOB IDIOTS.

>>530578350
Anon you made the engine, only you can answer this. The only advice you can get it general advice you should be able to deduce on your own like "well you can draw each sprite in succession to simulate an animation"

>>530579784
Whoa man just take it easy.

>>530579993
we need to have a more Drake and Josh approach to Game Dev in this new era.

>>530579993
If I wanna pop a blood vessel over the internet, I can and will. Don't @ ME

Dude it's taking me longer to draw all the assets than it took me to write the engine. Fuck what everyone says, asset creation will always be the bottleneck

>>530569596
I don't remember her nenechis being so big.

>>530580242
that's why you rip assets

Is a Sims-like possible in Godot?
Or must you make your own engine?

>>530580242
True. Most games are not hard at all to program. You need killer art, a great idea, and lukewarm coding abilities to make it big as a dev.

>>530578350
>Has to be like APNG or similar, displayed in browser.
You mean your engine is basically a website? Or what? I think those fancy new image formats like WEBP have animation support, too?
If your engine is not a website but just a regular thing built on SDL or similar: You probably want just a static background and then put spritesheets into certain places, research the technique if you don’t know it, it’s very simple, basically you split your animation into 16 images, for example, and then just change which one you display every 100 ms or every 400 ms, whatever makes sense.

>>530580306
Nenechi's binaries are bloated.

>>530579763

Unity.

>>530580425
>Is a Sims-like possible in Godot?
>Or must you make your own engine?
You have to write your own game engine in assembly to make The Sims. No but seriously yes you can make it in Godot, Unreal, Unity, SDL, etc, etc, etc.

anyone here exclusively play pvp games? what kind of games should you make if you play these?

>>530580625
this looks like it's going to be a hit

im going deaf. i had this before but would never last more than a day

>>530580917
what is "this"

>>530580425
Start with Pong.

>>530580908
A PVE game, probably.

>>530580805
thanks. I'm trying to get this thing shipped fast so that I can fund the big game I'm working on with enginedev.


>>530581024
I can already do that using just SDL.

>>530580493
If your engine is a website you can also use canvas elements and then apply the spritesheet technique.
To be precise about spritesheets, the idea is to put all steps onto the same static png in e.g. a 4x4 pattern and then only change which origin from that texture you cut out. Though for simple cases you can also just make 16 different textures.
>>530580908
A game that is hard to make, so you can show off your prowess and win Demo Day!

>>530580994
one of my ears stop working and lose 70% volume

>>530581117
>thanks. I'm trying to get this thing shipped fast so that I can fund the big game I'm working on with enginedev.
Good luck, if it's a good game I would buy it. I love the sims but it sort of looks complicated to make competently.

>>530580917
you have a wax buildup in your ear

>>530581389
clean your ears bro

>>530581117
>Sims-like
>I'm trying to get this thing shipped fast

>>530578579
it would look the same anyway

>>530581445
Good luck to you too.

>>530581604
It's a cozy coded sims-like which will attract the cute audience and be a Godot flagship showcase and I'd like to also release it on Switch.

Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
About 700 games in the week around your release.
AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.
Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)

Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."

Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.

>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025
Hahahahaha

H O B B Y
O
B
B
Y

>>530581727
>It's a cozy coded sims-like which will attract the cute audience and be a Godot flagship showcase and I'd like to also release it on Switch.

Generate a /agdg/ game here
https://app.base44.com

37 games release on the day mine releases and ranking by followers i am #10 on that list
that said, i am low on the "relevancy" list on steam, if this metric is based on release hour then everyone releasing before me is not making a wise choice

I am now 19 months into my 2-month side project.

how to mek gem?

>>530582640
Buy my course and I will tell you

>>530333227
so mecha spore, maybe doing lots of building minigames will eventually get you there

>>530582640
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1752089716901022.webm

>>530581774
https://voca.ro/17IQLveH7Z4x

im amazed that high budget games still leverage robotic animations despite having access to mocap studios. its just an observation I had while playing metaphor (its not that great of a game). its so unbelievably fucking jarring to watch a fully mo-capped scene and then watch characters either do a 180 degree turn slowly without and stepping or poorly blend between generic talking/idle animations.
im literally going rokokunigger just to dab on these retarded lazy ass japs and animate as much as I can

>>530583852
Is Atlus really all that high budget? They’re certainly not up there with the studios that work on games like FF7 Rebirth.

>>530583976
persona sold like hotcakes they cant not be triple A at this point

anal sex with bocchidevs

>>530581774
I'll do it
You'll see

WISHLIST DATA TOMORROW WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>530584869
da-who?

Empty rooms and faded screens
Another day begins
Just me and lines of perfect code

How do I get over my nervousness?

An online .io-like Pong game where you can 1v1 people, but it's a 2D volleyball game.

>>530585129
GIVE ME
THE FANART
THAT I DESERVE!

>>530585682
MY GENIUS WAITS
FOR ALL TO SEE

NO MATTER WHAT
THE CRITICS SAY

THEIR WORDS JUST
TURN TO DUST

>>530585486
Actually, even more .io-like, make it a 2v2 game.

my games 9 year anniversary was yesterday

>>530421708
Does this run on idtech? I'm thinking of using a low-poly engine for my open world RPG game I'm working on.

>>530586293
What is your Game?

>>530586293
Sorry I missed it. I'll post the fan art later.

>>530586369
https://ineptdev.itch.io/hair-recieve-bullet
google "the witness"

>>530586882
Why is this thing taking so long to develop

>>530587019
idea deficit

Can I project the performance of a small open world game by simply spawning a certain amount of boxes? like 50k maybe. no physics. besides drawing the level there'll be few npcs with simple logic so it won't be a drain. I think that covers the heavy hitters with my planned gameplay.

>>530587182
you just need to start building the game and profile as needed.

>>530587182
>Can I project the performance of a small open world game by simply spawning a certain amount of boxes?
okay, why would you want to do that instead of physics

>>530578108
None. I'm shy and have no twitter or discord attached to /agdg/. Though I do see some anons I'd like to be friends with like Marmo, Dungeon Watchers dev, and Kyubu Kyubu dev for example. There are more too.

>>530587340
What possible big redesigns can there be to improve performance? I know about chunking but nothing else besides.
>>530587487
Because the map is mostly static and very few items will have physics act on them at some point so it's negligible
boxes only simulate drawing polygons

>>530582271
At least it's not 6 years.

Some people here have been working on their game since 2015 (10 years) and they're still not done...

I had to cancel the main project to facilitate completion of the side project.

>>530588137
What's wrong with you guys? Majority of you are using Unity or something, right? What's the big idea

>>530578108
Only two people. All-time. I didn't know but beforehand but they were both transgender and dating one another. They kept trying to convince me that I was AGP and kept posting things I was uncomfortable with so I deleted my entire discord account. I haven't had a good experience talking with anyone through discord, so I don't think I will be creating another account.

>>530588278
Mental illness

I have been working on my project for 11 days

>>530582271
Like 3.5 months in mine and it is basically my main project now. The estimate was 9 to 18 months. I've done so much on the backend and I'm hoping my estimate was right because I am not going back to my former main project any time soon. I've fully realized it is NGMI.

>>530587340
I still don't understand what profiling is

Alright I've already decided the game I'm writing up a design document on will flop, so I've started a side design document.

>>530588554
>I still don't understand what profiling is
thomas plz

>>530588554
just using a profiler to monitor numerous performance statistics of your program.

The sedentary lifestyle inherent in the game dev hobby has caused me to develop high blood pressure.

Friendly reminder that gamedev is a lottery. Every game released on Steam has the exact same odds of making it, regardless of quality. Good games do not exist. Bad games do not exist.

Are you spending 10 years working on your magna opus dream game? It has the exact same odds as the asset flip made in 2 weeks.

Just like buy lottery tickets.

H O B B Y
O
B
B
Y

>>530566483
I say this all the time. I tried to make everything about my game unique and it's added so much damn scope it was never truly worth it.
I do it anyway for fun / the experience but it isn't worth it.

Also
>his 6 figure game studio
That's ... Pretty modest, really. It feels like Thomas Brush is always trying to make himself up to be a big shot but in the grand scheme of things, he's really just kinda small. I know plenty of people around the six figure or greater mark.

>>530588278
you try making a game, it's not easy. unless your game is just a clone of an already popular game then sure i guess all you need to put into it is time and not brainpower.

Thanks everyone!

>>530586326
Godon't 4head

>>530459387
Nah just the SUMMER SALE

>>530565879
2 years to get all the mechanics in

>>530464827
Was gonna be like 2 years, but now I can update it forever!

>>530566483
>clickbait thumbnail, title and accompanying 4chan post
wow take me from this timeline immediately

>>530589000
It's not a lotery.

It's like opening a restaurant.

Are u making a coca cola with hamburgers near the fan club of coca cola with hamburgers lovers?

Then you will sell.

Are u making a vegan brocoli losing weight smoothie for the club of meat lovers?

Then It doesn't matter if you're making the best brocoli smoothie of history.

>>530588491
tca-bros, we got caught

>>530589260
Something else to consider:

Are you making a coca cola with hamburgers near the coca cola with hamburgers restaurant? They'll go to that one instead of yours :0

>>530577972
uuuuuh cuz my game is actually good!?!?!?!?!?////

I actually almost flipped when I realized the kind of game I was making. But since I focused on making it all dynamic, almost imsim like, and allowing fun... I guess it went more the way of a Daggerfall-like You Can Do ANYTHING type of game rather than a generic, saturated and boring "watch bars fill up farming mats for hours" slop

>>530589402
That's assuming that you're only capable of making [existing restaurant, but worse], and that you'll never be able to make [existing restaurant, but better]. This is true for many here, especially you Cris, and that is why you'll never make it.

>>530589679
Well. As an amateur, you are probably only capable of making [thing, but worse] at this point in time. So it's a helpful creative exercise to try and put a spin on it, like thing but worse but also does this one thing better. Or maybe it does one thing that the original thing doesn't even try.

>>530589402
but there's a million ways you can prepare a hamburger and make a coca cola clone.

You can still make a chinese, an italian, a japanese hamburger.
And make the coca cola into something like a lemonade, a japanese sake.

Or put some cute anime maids to serve the food.

>>530584503
this is why i show up to the agdg meet ups

oh my gooooooooood just make a fucking game, yeah more than quality matters but you aren't corner cutting your way into success

>>530589850
Not everyone is a schizo of stagnation like you.

>>530589132
when you select the cat race in the character creation screen and the select a human you still have the equipment restrictions applied

>>530590162
yes you are

Are there any Rehab Room style channels about indie dev? I need some game dev blackpills.

>>530590091
>but you aren't corner cutting your way into success
I will sell 500 asset flips. I will corner cut so hard you will wonder if I was a chinese sweat shop.

Oh shit, it's "Hurt" on max volume day today

agdg seriously need to go beyond playing AAA games to have original ideas.

>>530590227
Whatever helps you sleep.

>>530590284
Great idea, anon! Why not 1000 though? 2000 whole steam appids!

>>530590246
Jonathan Blow twitch streams

>>530590403
Dissolving melatonin tablets, strawberry flavored.

when ur code works

>>530590391
Originality is overrated.

>>530590916
Unbelievably cute and adorable.

cool little visual effect with animated color palettes
i use the sin of elapsed time to ease between two different color palettes for the tileset, but i use a noise texture to offset the timing so that different positions have slightly different timed glows, makes it look all woozy and stuff

i went to the grocery store for their job fair like it said in the paper, and they didn't know what i was talking about
i went to the city job center for their skills assessment, and they discontinued it a long time ago
i went to apply for a bakery job and they already hired someone
i failed out of the all expenses paid bootcamp
i failed to get into the second bootcamp
i didn't get contacted by the venture capital company
but my engine works

Is Godot good?

>>530591216
familiar artstyle
post more pls

>>530591216
Can't wait to play this game in 6 years when you finish the first map

Gamedev is only a lottery when it comes to who comes up with an idea first. Everything after that is pure skill.

>>530591730
No, but it's the least bad.

>>530591730
yea

>>530591924
It’s not as good as unity.

>>530591834
First area is almost done at this point and I’m targeting October’s nextfest for a steam demo with the completed area

>>530591632
I can't believe that NASA killed this guy's wife just for this lame science experiment

>>530591920
>>530591920
>Gamedev is only a lottery when it comes to who comes up with an idea first. Everything after that is pure skill.
fort minor

>>530592093
Miyamoto is lucky he came up with the idea for Super Mario Bros. before anybody else, but it wouldn't have mattered if the game was slop.

You technically don’t need a game engine when modern tools like Raylib exist.

>>530562036
>>530562773
Just stay in academia.

>>530591998
Yes, but Unity also has way more bad that cancels out any additional good, and Unreal is a step even further. The decision is how much bullshit are you willing to put up with to have access to those extra "good" features. If you're not even going to make use of those "good" extra features, then you're better off going with something less.

>>530592208
I was just referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUvlSxoichA

>Gamedev is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
>Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
>Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
>And a hundred percent reason to play my game (Sike!)

Professional game developer here. I thought I would swing by and see what you guys are up to. I’ll be here for a little while, so let me know if you need anything. Thanks.

>>530592208
Celeste outsold Super Meat Boy.

So far this week I've been implementing item use but I only I realized just now that I need to implement a party system first.
I think I'll take a little break before continuing.

>>530592867
I'll take fries with that thanks

>>530592867
tell me how I into marketing.

What are the most interactive agdg games where you can interact with the world in myriad and unexpected ways? Where you think “hmm I wonder if I can do this crazy thing” and five minutes later go “ahh I can do this crazy thing :o”

i just had a short moment of realization. what i long for is community. that what i work on matters to someone. it sounds cheesy, but the feel of sitting alone at home working on something just for myself felt sad. just like being on a lonely island, completely alone, building stuff you cannot share with someone.

i wonder what it'd be like having a bunch of bros in real life who are into gamedev and you fuck around with prototypes and funny ideas and show stuff to each other. i imagine this to be kinda fun. just like doing counter-strike training sessions and trying all sorts of weird strategies or doing fun dumb shit.

maybe gamedev is more fun with friends, just like games are more fun with friends.

maybe it's not important to collect all the income for yourself, maybe it's more about collecting all the good memories and having fun with bros.

i don't think you can force this though. just like you can't force relationships with women. usually you just stumble upon this shit or not...

i was just thinking about some cool ideas again, but somehow it feels like they don't even matter. it'd be like painting in the shadows. without a spotlight, your painting doesn't even exist. it takes light to see a painting. without other people, your game doesn't really exist.

don't call this a blogpost, it's not like all your other shitposts are any more meaningful..

>>530593365
>huge block of text

Whatever happened to that Aggy-chan game, did the dev give up?

>>530588137
wrong. I started my game in 2017. I'm not done because I didn't make pong first.

>>530590916
How do I 3D like this?

>>530593745
He's in jail rn.

>>530294609 (OP)
Demo Day was fun, here's a collage of the games I played. I didn't spec into art, so don't expect much.
Keep up the good work, and never forget to just like make game!

>>530593287
I don’t know, I’m not in the marketing department. But I can tell you that our marketing department has went through two restructurings. The first marketing department did almost nothing and was comprised of friends of the chief of staff. They received preferential treatment and were the only employees who were allowed to work remote. They used the company card to eat at expensive restaurants twice a month. The board of directors fired them and the chief of staff. The second marketing department was hired from scratch and the new marketing manager was a narcissistic liar who used chatgpt for everything including his resume and he was really good at interviewing. Unfortunately he didn’t do anything except “delegate” and kept begging the board to create new marketing positions, insisting that he could actually do the things they were demanding of him if he had “just one more employee.” And he kept doing that every month until the marketing department was the most bloated department in the building. He was fired because he kept yelling and verbally abusing his subordinates. The department itself was gutted too.

We have a running joke in my company that the marketing department is cursed because the company keeps filling those positions with charlatans who don’t do anything. So I suppose my answer to “how do I into marketing” is get really really good at deceiving people who have lots of money into believing that you provide any value at all.

>>530593365
there are gamedev-only BnBs

What corporate sponsorships have you reached out to for in-game ad campaigns?

>>530594167
Nice

>>530593365
Despite the internet being created for and facilitating connections to other people all over the planet, it seems increasingly hard to get an online friend or acquaintance.

>>530591920
first adopters like me usually flop because the mainstream havent adopted our genios way of thinking yet

>>530593287
Shadow-drop your game on steam with zero fanfare or announcements.

>>530594167
jenny wins again

>>530593365
me and some friends used to dev in my garage a long time ago. Had some couches that often had friends-of-friends sleeping on them, jank-ass TV that just played an endless stream of horror movies mostly, mini-fridge, computers.
This was back in the day where you'd often just knock on your friend's door to see if they were around. I can't imagine how young people meet each other anymore. From what I've seen I suspect they mostly just don't. To them typing at some discord groomer is exactly what a friend is.

>>530593745
He posted a cute train like a week ago.

>>530571854
kek you kept bumping your thread for 2 fucking days, pipe down

>>530593365
>>530594695
Sounds like a personal problem. Plenty of people are able to make real online friendships. For example, my little brother's main friend-group originated as a MapleStory guild. He regularly goes to IRL meetups where a bunch of people fly in to cities like NYC, Vegas, Vancouver, or Tokyo for a weeks vacation at a time. Just about every high-performance MMO guild I've joined also contains a friend-group like that who have people that met online, but will meet up IRL.

>>530594695
you know, back in the 90s nothing ever got dusty, but now if I'm not using a gaming console every single day it's covered in dust every time I go to use it

I think it's global warming

>>530595583
It's chemtrails

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGQYbm6qRPE

its godover

>>530595583
>*loudly blows dust out of my nes cartridge so it reads*
sorry what were you saying?

my game going to have a Kingdom Hearts moment...... people will seriously cry...

character chewing mint gum and sliding with white shoes

>>530593745
why do you care about pedophilic "games"? why not ask about my game instead?

>>530596031
>why do you care about pedophilic "games"? why not ask about my game instead?

>>530593326
>play demo of recent AAA game
>level starts
>hobo immediately drunkenly talking at you
>go up to him and press E
>nothing happens
yes it was a movie game

>>530594167
>I didn't spec into art
heh

>>530594167
Hey, thanks anon!

>>530596283
Every aspect of video game creation is an artform. Referring to the act of illustration as "art" is indicative of someone who is not good at illustration.

a Neighbors from Hell-like in 2025....

>>530596438
Shut up retard, you're bad at everything

>>530595583
anon, your mom used to dust while you were at school...

>>530596762
Nuh uh!

>>530596031
does your game appeal to base human instincts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJMhmn_VMmE

your future, inner circle 'cord pedo troon
i will never give you the GMI feedback, I will ENJOY watching you FLOP if you ever release your hugboxed turd

>>530595726
Must've read the licensing agreement and realized that using Godot means supporting MAPs Rights

>gf wants to open our relationship
i will finally have more time for gamedeving

>>530596951
nigga literally called his game... wait for it...
no seriously youre gonna wanna fucking sitta down for this
...
ready?
fucking "space survivors" lmao

>>530597075
fuck off

>>530597089
ive seen worse (timothy and the dark forest)

>>530596951
Bro... how do you make this game and expect people to buy it?

I wonder how his Steam Library looks. Full of space arcade shooters?

zombies ate my neighbors but its 2025 so you don't actually know or care about any of your neighbors and they're probably disgusting freaks you don't agree with politically anyways

https://youtu.be/BFAx6Y5pCKM?t=715

why is every white mormon making a hollow knight clone with no art skills, no game design skills, no writing skills
like what the fuck make a gambling game or a pedo game, why the fuck do they think making hollow knight is easy?

>>530593745
killed by nortubel for not including a shota

>>530597510
>gambling
I don't bloody think john smith allows it!

>>530594167
Cool, my first fanart.

>>530593365
embrace the schizoid hermit ghostdev life

>>530595546
I will only buy Aggychan 3D if the dev allows me to panty peek.

I will only buy Aggychan 3D.

'cord is here

>>530594167
very nice anon! hope you enjoyed the games

we indie now
I'd show the more-enemies edicts but things are broken since they expect fixed enemies

the hard thing isn't to come up a good idea, the hard part is to recognize a good idea.
if you don't know that gold is worth something, you'll just think it's a worthless piece of metal and will just walk by.
"don't cast your pearls before swine" literally describes this, as pigs cannot recognize that pearls have worth.
it actually takes knowledge to recognize a good game idea.

he wonned

i have ideas that are technically good, but personally meaningless.

>>530598615
is that AI?

>>530599085
I prayed for my game and it flopped spectacularly more than people thought it was going to flop.

>>530599085
The problem here is there are entire conglomerates out there ritually praying for me to fail and while my prayers are worth as much as theirs combined (+AND MORE), I can't do it all on my own.

>>530599282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jJJcacnGVI

>>530599453
Amen

Thoughts on a mana-like? How do I get cute character models for the player? Enemies are easy.

>>530597510
its either hollow knight or ori of the blind forest, something about those games speaks to them.
both have all white protagonists for one.

progress

>>530599756
just use godot-chan

>>530593365
damn that's crazy and also I made a near-idrntical post to this a year ago. it makes a tiny difference to post on forums, it makes a small difference to join a jam, and it's pretty huge to meet people irl

>>530599819

>>530600109
there's a channel called "PRCLive" and they did some 100% oblivion speedruns and it's pretty chill to watch because they are a bunch of friends. imagine this but with gamedevs.

>>530333227
Are you prepared to spend 5-10 years learning gamedev before you're able to produce anything of quality?

>>530592208
Even then miyamoto was in a unique situation when making mario. Nintendos US chief at the time fucked up when making radar scope leading to a commercial failure. Miyamoto came in and was basically told.

>okay listen, we have like 1000 cabinets here
>they're all full of a shit game that no one in america likes.
>nintendo japan fucking hates us anyway
>We know you're shit at programming and more of a designer
>good luck

how he managed to make donkey kong in that situation is nothing short of a miracle. But at the same time not many people get put in a situation where they have free reign to work on thousand machines and regardless of what you put out the company has to ship

Spent the last month drawing assets for a character with a hat that has a prominent star on the front, only to remember that this hat is globally used by communist regimes. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement with this character but it will be impossible for people not to draw those conclusions due to my smooth-brained overisight. I mean it looks exactly like a communist cap lol. Now I have to redo everything.

>>530601023
just don't make them act like a commie, dummy

>>530601023
No one gives a fuck about a star on a hat. If they do sell it to them. If people get pissed off just say you thought it looked cool.

>>530558539
The best you can do is look at the common things in games that do go viral. A lot of it is something new, not necessarily unique but fresh or different enough that people want to play it when they see it. They also tend to be games that are good to stream but also fun to play and ones where watching a stream doesn't detract from your own experience of playing it. I'm sure you could spot more if you started studying what went viral.

Now of course that doesn't mean that having those elements will guarantee going viral but it's something you can increase your odds with if you do it properly.

>>530593365
>>530594695
>>530595303
I'm going back to school hoping to maybe meet other people, but all the CS classes available are online.
There was one in-person class last semester but it was cancelled from low enrollment. This time that class is almost full.

>>530560347
>>530560607
that's all sprites dumbass

>>530601518
I honestly think theres a measurable correlation between games that look fun to play and make engaging stream content. I remember that flappy bird game that randomly blew up, only did RIGHT after pewdiepie played it on his youtube channel.

Shit like balatro, peak, etc, every single one of them get free advertisement from clout chasing streamers all playing each others games. I'm wording it harshly. But I think the free advertisement is a huge aspect these days.

>>530562036
if you earn 10 years of income you can invest 8 years of it and live off the proceeds along with the tail of your game sales and hopefully some profits from future releases

How to get desperate fanboys that buy whatever I put out? I've seen a few gamers that just desperately latch on and will defend the dev/game no matter what even when they get screwed over ie shutting down the game because it didn't make enough money, abandoning development for years, or leaving it with game breaking bugs. How do I get this audience of desperate fanboys where I could unironically get away with charging them $49.99?

>>530578665
why would a wagie run in traffic?

always having hobbies that nobody else likes is the story of my life

>>530601776

>>530602132
It's a copypasta, don't pay too much attention to it.

https://x.com/nupsume/status/1942893681389814027

reckon it's possible to have a purple palette without ending with a transcoded game? back then it was a pimp color

>>530588137
actually a lot of the long time projects have come out now

boku is the only one still working on his shit from wayback then

>>530602763
And a good more than half of them have cancelled their projects. Actual releases are rare, cancellations are common.

>>530599819
AI sloppa

>>530602459
make them feel like buying the game is buying a personality they can adopt.

>>530601518
that's pretty accurate, even gaming streamers look for these type of games while waiting in q

Why is there a guy here defending nepobabies autistically? Like why would an amateur gamedev do that?

>>530602556
Don't bother, you're arguing with the kind of person who will attempt to poorly summarize what some eceleb told them about DOOM not being "real 3d" despite not even understanding the basic premise.

>>530601956
>But I think the free advertisement is a huge aspect these days.
Absolutely. Making a streamable game that doesn't ruin the experience for the viewer should be a consideration when trying to make a game to succeed. Streamers and tubers having so much fun that the viewers want to play the game is just about the best kind of marketing you can have these days.

>WE SHOULD ALL MAKE STREAMER SLOP
you can tell it's veddit indian/biz/ tourist hours

>work on a game for 3 years, hop
>work on a game for 2 weeks, hop
>work on a game for 2 months, hop
>work on a game for 2 years, hop
>work on a game for 4 month, hop
>work on a game for 3 years, hop
I don't even remember 'cancelling' my games, maybe I figured I'd return to them...

>>530602991
meds

>>530602459
be a girl, I literally show off how I got my nails done on X and get wishlists lmao

I will have tall red haired curly haired overbite gf work on game with me and also bite frozen treat with her front teeth by my pool.

>>530603181
no that is literal 2d sprites there's nothing about it that makes it 3d it doesn't even use the chip that star fox used

>>530603326
I feel like the majority of the people who say that are the ones making the itchio "horror" trash that thank up the Most Popular page.

I'm new here, what's a nepo baby and why is there a guy constantly blogging with Bocchi images?

>>530603386
What I want to reply to you is against US laws.

>>530603334
I officially cancelled two of those recently by deleting the remote git repos and archiving them on local storage. Felt weird but at the same time also felt weird to have those git repos that I haven't pushed to in over 2 years.

>>530603354
sloppa has melted your brain

>>530603498
see
>>530602556

>>530603386
If you truly are a female, let me be the first to welcome you to /agdg/ and assure you -- the misogyny is mostly just banter lol (mostly, though there are some bad eggs here of course.)
Anyhow glad to have you aboard, it's great to get more females involved in a traditionally male-dominated field. Have fun and let me know if you have any questions!

fave dev posts is the post mortem where they did everything right and dont know what went wrong
and then they post their game and its like "winnie pooh: five nights at winnies"

>>530603334
You spend 10 years like this and then you start to wonder what the fuck are you doing with your life.

>>530603579
nepobaby is a fake indie dev that got pushed by the system while still pretending to be indie, kinda like industry plants they usually have to do something in exchange like promote LGTB shit
the bochi avatarfag worked on a game for 10 years, the game was widely popular in here getting tons of praise but when it released it was a complete flop and ever since he started spamming that tranime here as cope, he's been mindbroken by the flop since he even invested money to pay a (pedo) 3d modeler to make models

>>530603659
you posting pics like that doesn't fix your 60 IQ

>>530594167
WHY DO YOU NEVER MAKE FAN ART OF MY GAME REEE

>>530603579
over the years this thread has attracted a number of schizos who mindbroke themselves with their failures in gamedev and now all they do is post here all the hours that they're awake shitting up the thread

more recently some pedophiles have attached themselves to this general which is chasing away legit devs and further decreasing the amount of gamedev discussion and progress posting

>>530603945
marmo barely posts here anymore, the current bocchi poster is a copycat

I never claimed to be marmo, you guys did that

>>530603709
link one, I would enjoy a chuckle

Why did Marmoreal flop?

>>530604852
because it was never going succeed and the dev couldn't see it

>>530604448
doesn't matter as long as the creature doesn't post game it's marmoshart in my book

Marmoreal dev here. I got picked up by devolver digital! Wooo!

>>530604852
woke dev

>>530604852
The gameplay loop wasn't fun, the effort wasn't there, in every aspect. Animations had issues, things that could have been fixed easily were not, it all adds up to a feeling of the devs not caring which I'm sure they did, that's just what comes across, also the gameplay loop wasn't fun.

>>530604370
it's literally just kannadev and alicedev aka squareanon, both from 'cord btw

>>530603334
Here are Heinlein's 5 rules. All I did was replace "write" with "dev".
> 1. You must dev
> 2. You must finish what you start
> 3. Don't go back to make changes unless it's by editorial demand
>4. You must put it in the market
>5. You must keep it in the market until it sells

Now that this got popular, can we say that mech games are a viable genre?

>>530605207
This is what happens when you remake the same game multiple times as you're learning instead of making smaller games. The dev became blind to the game's faults. He was trying to improve it but never managed to do it proper because it was the only thing he ever worked on and as such his gamedev learning stagnated.

Look upon my werkz, ye nodevs, and hang yourselves.

walking animation

>>530605683
prompt?

>>530605608
Looks like generic fotm korean goonslop, let's ask again in a year.

>>530605683
Ok, you have my interest.

>>530604852
Isn't it not out of early access yet?

>>530605660
>game only has a command line interface
>uses 16gb of RAM and still has performance issues
Unity devs lmao

>>530605683

>>530605608
do you have millions of dollars to dump on the art to have a game full of sexy 3d koreans?

>>530605660

>>530605683
please tell me you made that

>>530605683
I always even people who can rig and animate well. How do people do this shit without losing their mind? I'd be having issues with the thighs/buttocks phasing through each other or if I was animating this.

>>530605838
Ah so that's what's going on.
Well, I think Steam gives you another visibility boost when it exits early access, so who knows.

>>530605683
I will now buy your game.

https://youtube.com/shorts/bqFnPe0IX_8

she's giving some good advice for Godot, what's the point of not statically typing ever then? why is that a feature

>>530604852
It has positive reviews but, you know, steam is a litter box and every gem is buried under mountains of shit and sand. For every success there's 50 failures and while some obviously deserved to fail many were games that would have done quite well a decade ago before Steam became a litter box. Marmoreal is one that would have done well a decade ago.

>>530606220
>It has positive reviews
Aren't those all from his friends in the discord though

>>530606291
Yes. But that's because the game was good enough to get a lot of fans from /agdg/ which is a feat in and of itself due to how you guys shit on everything.

>>530606291
yes the same people who heccin go nuts at that ass walking animation
it's the gooner incel troon kiss of death, if those people like your game it's over for you, same happened to that military tactical game
both marmoshart and it would've done much better with a non AGP gooner aesthetic

>>530605789
>>530605848
Am I missing something? I was getting Armored Core + Gundam Versus vibes from the game so I thought that was why it got popular?

>>530604852
game doesnt really seem fit for early access

>>530606554
>AGP
>gooner
>incel
Listen to yourself man. Get offline for a week and go to the gym.

making a hotline miami ripoff with anime chibis

>>530606568
All people talk about are the gooner avatars and ERP, only a minority cares about the mechs
In fact gundam's f2p overwatch clone also died very quickly, mecha is just too niche for normaltroons past the awe of the designs they just flee

Took me an entire day to make a functional options menu with json saving and loading functionality that can remap the game actions.

But I am glad is now on a separate project inside a folder I can copy paste on other projects.

capitalism only works if you are winning.

>>530606638
Why not? Asking for a friend...

>>530606786
This is cool. A lot of people dislike tweening animations, but I dig them.

Games need appeal

>>530606895
its supposed to be a primary linear story based game, no? players aren't going to pay for half a story (or in this case 25% of a story)

>>530607132
Ah, I shouldn't do this. With how slow development is going, I was thinking of releasing my relatively linear story game in early access and continuing the story in the form of release patches.

>educational video
>17 yo boy starts talking

education is dead

I need to release it...

>>530606803
if true that sucks. why can't people just accept /m/ into their hearts?

Last time I heard Marmoreal made over $60,000 on Steam. Regardless of how long he spent working on it I would still like to have that kind of paycheck because it's a lot better than nothing. I am jealous, for real.

>>530607330
tank you for comming to my bideo. today we will educate yourself on stayt masheens

>>530606291
The real game dev success was the agdg discord friends we groomed along the way

>>530607562
But how much money did he spend paying his artist? It's important to factor that cost too

>>530603918
I'm making games... I could have spend the same hours on PUBG, glad i was doing something kinda productive/skill building at least.

i HATE nodevs

>>530606568
it's a shitty pvp game with coomer mecha pilots

sometimes i feel like life is just one big cope to deal with the fact that nobody cares if you suffer or die. internet is just to feel all cozy and to talk to people, yet deep down nobody cares about others.
everybody is just this one realization away from turning all wild because he realizes it's a singleplayer game on hardcore survival difficulty.

>>530608025
Why

>>530608089
It depends on how how you look at it.

>>530608025
>he said, posting on /nodevgeneral/

>>530605683

>>530606096
You think it's gonna turn around when it'll have a couple years on EA with no reviews to show for it? People will take one look at it and see it as the shovelware it is.

>>530605683

>>530608089
Uhh, no... Plenty of people care if I suffer or die, that's why they feed me and similar.

today i finally fixed a ton of stupid errors that were flooding my godot console but not really stopping it from working. in the process i found that my little function i made to reset the eyes so when a scene starts they arent mid blink wasnt working properly yay progress

>>530606431
>good enough to get a lot of fans from /agdg/
it's just his friends giving him pity reviews

>>530608272
I have no idea how early access on steam works. My understanding is that sometimes games sit there for (((years))) and then some algorithm picks it up, either via steam itself or through the dev's twitter account or a youtuber finds it and it snowballs upwards

>>530608471
He has a lot of friends

>>530607981
But you haven't released anything. When someone asks you what you've been doing what do you tell them? That you're a game developer? What do you say when they ask for the names of your games?

>>530607562
>$60,000 on Steam
that would mean he sold 1k copies off of 39 reviews. and thats from a full priced sale BEFORE Gaben tax

>>530608674
I tell them I'm an illustrator(that is my dayjob)

>>530607562
>Last time I heard Marmoreal made over $60,000 on Steam
In euroland it's priced at 12,49€. Let's assume the average price is 6€. He would've had to sell 10k copies. 39 review game selling 10k copies? Ain't no way lmao

'ate games
'ate gamedevs
'ate gamers

>>530608674
>When someone asks you what you've been doing what do you tell them?
Software engineer or some vaguely tech-worker sounding thing

>>530609073
Marmaskus-sama....

Most high quality AA and AAA released today can't even sell a million copies despite the market being as big as it's ever been.

>>530598523
nice

>>530608480
Algo would only pick up something after release if there's a sudden spike in activity that's large enough to suggest the game going viral. It will get a tiny visibility boost when it goes 1.0, get a couple more reviews and then go on to get 0-1 sales per day.

>>530609251
One of these days I'm gonna just do a calculation and see how many copies I have to sell to be viable x a development time estimate

so did boku release his game? or was he just farming attention with his art polish stuff

>>530608674
>sorry I signed an NDA

>>530609073
Didn't realize I was posting in AAA Game Dev General....

>>530608849
I didn't know marmoreal was priced at $60

>>530608465
still waiting for your strip mahjong to finally release

>>530609527
You'll get there.

>>530608849
>>530609565
shit 4k copies, even more egregious from 39 reviews

>>530609251
Most AA studios never regularly sold 1m+. 100k sales on release week is a great success for a AA studio. The sustainable AA studios that have been regularly pumping out good games for decades operate on only a few million dollars per year expenses while shipping a new title ever year or two, so each title only needs to make them a few million back.

if life throws 100000 depression at me and i still dont wanna kms, what would life be like if it'd throw 100000 luck at me? (gf, money, frens, health, adventures etc.)?
would i die because my brain is regulated for misery?

>>530609978
im trying ive got my to-do list with calendar entries marked for each date on the month if i can actually hold to ill finally get it done!!

>>530610158
And Gaben takes another fat 30% on top. And they have to pay publishers, marketing ads, accountants etc.

How is this industry even sustainable?

>>530609251
Market is bigger but not hugely so. It just looks way bigger on paper. Zoomers play way less games than millennials and a large portion of the player growth on Steam has been from thirdies who spend very little on games.
I'd bet anything the market for premium games is smaller than it was a decade ago. Most people on steam are playing ancient premium games or F2P skinnerboxes.

brown elves

>>530610560
What part of "expenses" do you not understand? Oh, right. You've never had a job before and are clueless as to what it takes to run a business.

>>530610252
how is it lucky if youre still alive
world is a fuck

schedule 1 was weird. insane hype for 2-3 weeks and now completely and utterly forgotten like it never existed.
almost surreal.

You know that show "Hell's Kitchen"? /agdg/ and the extended indie gamedev scene feels like that. There are too many retards with zero business acumen trying to start a small business. That's what all of the flops boil down to.

Me? I'm the Gordon Ramsey of the gamedev world.

>>530610565
>Zoomers play way less games than millennials
Is this even true?

minecraft, 7daystodie, kenshi, terraria, dont starve, factorio etc. - all those games almost feel like science fiction compared to current games that are released. if those games wouldn't exist and you'd tell someone about games like this they'd tell you something like "nah that's not possible with unreal engine".

can't formulate better what i mean. it's just like, modern devs don't seem to try making games like that anymore. if they wouldn't have been made nobody would even try right now.

>>530611426
>23,274 players right now
That's more players than all /agdg/ games past and present combined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i7evBtUZDM

Spent the entire day coding a functional game options menue.

pls rate.

a dream game is a game you dreamed of, not thought of. it means a game you dreamed of in your sleep.
it's "i had a dream" and not "i had an idea" or "i had a thought".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT82gFzkRvg

>>530611426
Keep in mind this is the audience you want to create games for if you want the big bucks. The adhd-brained kind who will forget about it a month later.

If my game fails its because I got unlucky. If it succeeds its because I put in the hard work.
Got it?

>>530612060
I already gave it a thumbs down

collapsed bridge

>>530612060
>cris has remappable keys before I do
fuck... at least I have a game though

>>530605683
>>530605972
yeah
>>530605978
thx but its not perfect though Im still learning
>I'd be having issues with the thighs/buttocks phasing through each other or if I was animating this
add more geo, or maybe are the weights

>>530612146
my dream game involves me, naked, with a boner chasing elmo down an endless dark alley

>>530612198
Not gonna watch the whole thing, just skim through it. So Blue Archive encouraged players to leave reviews on Steam?

I don't have a dream game. I just have some ideas I think would work well if I fleshed them out. Not telling you them because I want to work on them next.

>>530612535

>>530612198
This is less manipulative and fake than the reviews on marmoreal. I'm reporting the game to valve right now.

>"yeah, I'm making a rogue-like"
>it's and idle clicker shit with a cash shop

>>530607562
Where do you retards come up with these numbers? He made like 4k after steam tax, and owed his artist minimum 3k so its very realistic that he walked away with net $1,000 (or less) from 10 years of work lol

im making a game that is unique and there is nothing like it. im ready for my 3 steam reviews lifetime.

>>530612952
>cash shop
lmao nobody here knows how to process payments to implement a cash shop in their game

>>530613117
gross revenue is before taxes and fees, he would have made considerably less than that after the fact

>>530613117
Oh, maybe I misremembered

>>530612198
This is the biggest nodev faggot with the shittiest takes Youtube has to offer. Never link him again.

Writing up my game's pre-mortum.

>>530611770
Most kids and young adults (zoomers) are stuck playing forever games, gacha, BRs, co-op survival, builders etc if they actually play video games. The other chunk is on Twitch and YT and they don't buy or play games, they live solely through para-socialization of watching streamers and youtubers.

As for millennials they are stuck playing shitty mmos like WoW or Sony movie games.

That means the market for new or interesting indie games is extremely small, about 1-2 million people worldwide probably. To break out requires crashing into the other markets by having some e-celeb play your game.

>>530612952
At some point, "roguelike" changed to mean any game with upgrade trees, which is weird because roguelikes traditionally didn't have upgrade trees.

on the path to becoming a neneposter...

>>530613343
Gamers aren't playing only one game at a time.

>>530613259
>Oh, maybe I misremembered

>>530613478
retard

>>530613606
Nah I’m not going crazy, someone definitely said in a previous thread that he made $60k

>>530613516
???

>>530613585
How do you play more than one game at a time?

>>530613478
diablo was the first roguelike and it had upgrade trees

>>530607562
Why are you lying? Marmo retired and moved to Japan. He's eating free range eggs and shitposting instead of pushing updates. Wagmi bros.

>>530613516
Raylib is so last year. SDL3 is where it’s at

https://files.catbox.moe/rdvnst.mkv
https://github.com/Zizin13/ROLLER
3D CAR 3D CAAAAR 3D CAR 3D CAAR

What's the point of the steam tag system if everyone just puts the vaguest popular tags they have for their game?
>let users moderate themselves
>they cheat the system
Wow what a shocker, valve!

>>530614407
doesnt have the same mechanics outside of the dice part

>>530614371
maybe does Valve have software to know if the tag matches to the game?

>>530613739
i wish NeneEngine was real
i wish nene was real, id marry her

>>530613726
Sure marmo probably cope posts about how much he made due to extreme shame but all of that data is public you can check for yourself on gamalytic which uses play count to estimate actual players. He released with 10k wishlists too btw lmao. Under 0.5% conversion rate, worst I have ever seen from any game literally ever no exaggeration

>>530598615
Did he?

I CAN'T DEV BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CRT MONITOR

>>530614371
I changed my tags to mirror games that were similar to mine/my target demographic and I instantly saw a massive increase in traffic. So yes they matter. The tag manager even lets you preview which games you will potentially be shown as a "More like this" option. You retards are given every single tool to succeed and still fail miserably. Pathetic.

>>530613117
squareanon played both sides and came out on top...

>>530614945
CRTs are shitty

>>530599076
Plushies doesn't get hives

>>530613516
Hell yeah raylib.

A waterpark game with 2000s SEGA summer vibes, juicy tomboy lifeguards, placards everywhere, fresh-looking water shader, hot older sister-type shop seller, romantic storylines, mini-games.

You play as a young gentleman who took up a summer job the waterpark.

>>530614945
16:10 is pretty good too
>>530615093
cope, they are good shit especially for watching old anime or video games, it looks way better

>>530615728
I'm not coping, I have one right next to me. I would never work on it, that's crazy dumb.

A survivors-like game but it's actually called a musou.

>>530614371
The tag system and review system are dogshit and everyone knows it but valve is too lazy and cheap to care.
At minimum you should get a community ban for knowingly tagging shit wrong or leaving troll reviews. Like if a game says it requires windows and you leave a negative review saying
>This doesn't run on linux >:(
that should be a ban.

Honestly CRT shaders make my LCD renders look so much better.