Old: >>529894049
Calm meditation edition

>What is this?
A mass-multiplayer survival game, set in the Dune universe.
A mix of PvE and PvP, focusing heavily on PvP in the endgame.

>Links
https://duneawakening.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/

>Crowd-sourced DD map
https://www.planetologist.app/
https://vps800955.ovh.net/maps_dune_awakening/

dead game dead general

>>530304030
ok dead soul lmaooooo
we'd prefer if you'd be quiet and not post your useless bitter shit thanks

>>530304523
>funcom
>soul
only once and they killed it (TSW)

They really need to add an auction house access point in hagga basin

>new patch
>landsraad fixed
>pvp infringed on a little harder
i don't like this trend.

apparantly some small part of D row is suddenly pvp and people are getting their bases raided lmao

brilliant patch

>>530304768
It was about the poster not the game bro. I never understood stupid dumb no lifers circling generals they don't care about and post that type of demoralizing comment like the world has to suffer their personal schizophrenia. I'm about to come back from vacations and I cant wait to slurp Doon Awokening© (non ironically)

Planetologists should get a radar to see where ornithopters are in the Deep Desert.

>>530305098
That was to be expected. DD zones should fluctuate each weeks

>>530305142
>last thread lasted 3 days
tick tock nigga

>>530305390
Any reasonable dev would make it change after the reset, not a day before it. It almost feels intentional because people will be pulling their spice and equipment out soon.

I don't participate in DooDoo so I could care less but this is a major dickmove to PvEfags.

>>530305420
>implying vg generals are what maintain any games alive
You fucking terminally online retard kek

>>530305305
That would give the gankers the perfect tool to locate their prey as well. How would you fix that?

>>530305305
then the pvpers will just have one of their buddies sit on top of a rocket thopter pin pointing any pve player.

>>530306106
Not him but have ground convoys be the main way to move and just make thopters into scouts to find targets.

>>530306049
>he's still coping

>>530306106
>Everyone can see where each other are going
is way better than
>Horde of Ornis (hornis) pop in 200m away with no warning and start launching infinite rockets.

>>530306961
You won't get anything done because the moment you pop in somewhere, you'll have a swarm of hornets moving your way.

It would need a serious range limitation, yet big enough to react to a sudden gaggle of gankers

>be me
>shit for brains, like an actual turd rolling around in my noggin
>mistake recycler for repair station
lmao what is gear good for anyway

>be me
>shit for brains, like an actual turd rolling around in my noggin
>bought this game
lmao what is money good for anyway

>be me
>shit for brains, like an actual turd rolling around in my noggin
>shit on the floor
lmao what is toilet good for anyway

Why do they face your ornithopter towards the edge of the map when you enter a new location from the overworld

>>530308908
why dont you send the devs an email and ask them why the fuck would any of us know

>>530308908
because this game is structured with unreal engine blueprint code and none of their hired apes looked at how any of it works

>incredible amounts of salt from pve players over a mistake
I'm really starting to think that this is a player type that cannot be catered to.

>>530306437
based and sapepilled

>>530313175
wow I'm surprised someone itt knows about cleve. hope restored.

>>530305803
Well at least this means they were working over the weekend. They might be retarded but they haven't given up.

>>530304768
I completely forgot Funcom made TSW as well. Damn that was a good game...should've been single player though. The puzzles were awesome.

>>530312307
That row is the new main dd base area for pvpers so I don't know who you're trying to dab on here

>>530312307
tribalistic stooges like you pointing fingers at your fellow gamers instead of addressing funcom for making a shit game that everyone mutually struggles to enjoy

>>530312307
>I'm really starting to think that this is a player type that cannot be catered to.
realistically, it cant, not with the foundation of the game they made. The entire game is desgined to funnel you into the PVP zone where you are supposed to make your own content while they dribble DLCs out. The things most people like the most about the game (the survival progression) is not something they can extend easily, if at atll, in any kind of reasonable time frame. And even if the PVE majority of the player base is intrigued by the PVP side, their curiosity will be extinguished rapidly with the bugs and lag of features.
If they want any sort of longevity out of the game, they will have to be prepared to lose most of the player base and be dragged on social media as being a failed developer because their only path forward is catering to the PVP side of the deep desert by fixing PVP. And I personally think they would still be too confined by their own design choices to do that adequately for any real PVP to stay.

Where did you guys put your end game base ? I can’t decide on a location

>>530304848
what do you mean? pentashield bases got axed, pvp timer switched to 30 seconds. i've killed plent in that 4s window it takes to rat across the border, now those guys just die.

>>530317331
cliffside near aluminum on the shield wall with enough of a convenient swoop that you can visit sheol with an instant off-the-edge hangar glide
really hard to beat that for convenience unless you find a roleplay spot with a prettier view elsewhere
(idk how you beat overlooking the entire noob desert like a king though)

Are all sniper rifles poison themed?
Any other weapons that can apply poison?

If yes, I'm going to make a poison build even though I know it's shit.

>>530317331
The cliff above crossroads station, just east of the dead electric worm. No real complaints about this location other than it could be slightly closer to the edge for world map purposes. But I prefer to avoid using world map travel as much as possible after spawning in the middle of a sandstorm once. Aluminum is abundant around my base, sheol is a very quick glide south, nearby camp for bodies, trading post to sell stuff is just off the edge of the cliff, drivable path for my buggy, it just works for me. Iron and steel are also immensely easy to farm up here without wasting time travelling all over. The only thing that takes a bit of time to get to is cobalt in the rift, but one buggy trip will last you ages as a solo so I don't mind that much.

>>530319170
Poison rapier is another one, the blueprint is easy to get. Top of the tower at the power plant/electric worm. You usually get the rapier or pulse sword.

>>530319382
Meant to reply to
>>530319128
but im retarded

>>530319128
>Any other weapons that can apply poison?
There is a splitshot DMR type rifle, also a line of poison rapiers.

It's not bad, but very easy to spec resistance rendering it useless.

>>530320346
>>530319128
poison immunity costs stamina and a passive slot. poison resistance merely extends the timer you can be exposed to poison. after which you'll suffer full poison damage and need to bandage or tank it, it doesn't actually mitigate the damage portions.

>>530320917
Counterpoint: spice prescience grains poison immunity.

>>530320917
>poison resistance merely extends the timer you can be exposed to poison

By such a large margin that you might as well never use it against players.

>griefers are running low on people to pick on they are now pushing down people's ornis in the PvE section until its forced to land and then deploy a thumper
Jesus christ

>>530323394
>they are now
been done doing already since beta, it's why you build a lip they can't push it over. if you don't have one, you can expect someone to do this.

funcom hitting youtubers for sharing the exploits they left in the game since beta

>>530325271
It is fair enough to be angry about people spreading hacks though.

>that one guy that screams " OOOHHHHH HOOOOO HOOOO" every night

>>530283109
money laundering, people are moving shit to new accounts in case they get banned for duping. Nothing automated is gonna touch these guys, you'd have to have some people going through transaction logs and saying, "nah this sus as fuck, banned"

which won't happen
I don't think there'll even be bans for duping to begin with, nor dupes being deleted. Funcom's literally powerless to do anything about it and their company leadership supports underhanded activities like cheating, griefing, ganking, and duping if you can get away with it, literally how all their games are built.

>>530325271
and there's stupid cocksucker funcom-branded lapdogs in this very thread that will tell you these incompetent hacks aren't censoring dissent for their new golden calf IP too
shameless

then again i'd be embarrassed if people brought to light that i made a game out of boilerplate UE5 blueprints, too
funcom shareholders would flay their entire studio alive if they could see this game for what it really is, and they know it

>>530326375
>t i made a game out of boilerplate UE5 blueprints, too
Can you provide evidence of this?

>>530302969 (OP)
put /dune/ in the subject you fucking retard

>>530327209
just search dune dumbass

>>530326901
they didn't even try to hide it bro

>>530327514
How does that prove it's boilerplate?

>>530327350
No shit you mongoloid, that's exactly what I did to find it. But I have filters set up to pin/highlight all the generals I visit and include the slashes because if I don't, other generals can be included, like having only "wowg" will also pin "cwowg" generals.

Just put /dune/ like every other fucking general on this board does.

>>530315038
Gear treadmill has to go (seems like they're acknowledging that with T6 to everyone in deep desert), but they won't make the actual hard decision to fix the survival mechanics because they're too invested down the road of convenience.

Bindu sprint, suspensor belts, dew fields, deathstills, shigawire, blood extractors and thopters all need to be taken out back and shot. They're convenient and a few of them are pretty fun, but they make the game so convenient you might as well not play it. Deathstills for example are just a hair short of being a button you press any time you need water. Take it one step further and you might as well just give players infinite water, and now what the fuck is even the point of water survival mechanics in your survival game?

That's the fundamental problem with all of these things - removing important considerations for player survival gameplay by making the game more convenient, but the more convenience you have, the less challenge there is, and the less reason to play anything.

Then there's the other side of the coin - take it too far and remove too much convenience and you've got a chore simulator nobody wants to play.

IMO the perfect balance was in the early hagga basin area. You can't mass harvest water easily or cheaply, you have to travel mostly on foot and you only have a literjon and basic stillsuit so managing your heat and water actually matters. The game has all of its best moments from starter zone to anvil and then starts to get worse from there on as you still only encounter pushover braindead NPC's, easy modes of travel that negate most terrain, and you realize how little environmental danger there really is, with sandstorms, sandworms, and water all being piss easy to deal with; shallow mechanics with no depth to them.

>>530327630
open up UE and spawn a character using a blueprint and tell me what the character is called

>>530329543
Yes. If you have a blueprint get the display name of the actor this is what you get. Your example seems to be getting a corner to help decide if a character is in shelter or not, however. Neither of those things are evidence of some mythical boilerplate.

>>530329543
How did Unreal know to call their character blueprint DunePlayerCharacter? Was it the prescience??

>>530327514
How the fuck did they get my phone number?

>>530330531
you can modify it slightly for your project, the BP in the front stands for Blueprint
I hope this relative to you, high IQ information, helps you understand what you're looking at.

>>530330398
it's an example of what a blueprint looks like, for people not familiar with what a UE5 blueprint is - not what the exact specific blueprint of the character in the game looks like.

I can't wait for your next 30 IQ take; "Uhm aktshully its not a boilerplate if you changed the name" or some such meaningless semantic drivel -
>Neither of those things are evidence of some mythical boilerplate.
oh, you couldn't have made my point any easier.

I can get wanting to defend the game you made, but spawning every actor using blueprints in a live service MMO is not what anyone intelligent, competent, or sane does. There are places and times to use blueprints, this isn't one of them. It costs 20-30x more to run a blueprint than it does equivalent C++; if you're spawning 1 character in your home project, whatever. If you are constantly spawning dozens/hundreds of players and NPC's in and out of existence on a server because your game is an MMO with scene/level/map transitions and points of interests and so on, do not use a fucking blueprint to do it what the actual fuck are you doing

bro out here making shit up to get mad at

Unless they changed the respawn timer on the nodes, all I see is more shitshacks covering nodes in the south.

Building in this game fucking sucks.

>>530332391
You are correct but I think the point is going over other anons' heads.
The blueprint system is best used to create a demo or vertical slice and then you hire real programmers (if t hey even still exist) to turn it into efficient, lean code (though I almost laughed typing that in year of our Lord 2025).

This is a sign of things to come as "professionals" just hamfist bloated code, art, and work in general through and excuse it with something like "just upgrade your PC".

>>530334358
Fear of resource scarcity drives people to monopolize nodes for themselves so they don't miss out.

I think it's more of a psychological issue now - there's probably more than enough resources for everyone in the PVE areas if nobody built on the nodes but everyone has to take an adversarial, "but what if someone else monopolizes it first? I need to own it so I can at least get SOMETHING" because these devs are retarded, don't understand human psychology, and build and change things completely oblivious to how players will act.

They conditioned players to see the resource as scarce, they conditioned the players to try and monopolize the resources, so now even if they outright double the amount of nodes and increase the spawn rate from what it was before, people are still going to build on top of a node to monopolize it for themselves (for the 1-2 hours a day they play), rather than all these nodes being freely available at all times to everyone.

They're gonna need to prevent building over nodes to solve the problem they've created for themselves. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but this company is their own worst enemy.

>need to carry a melee weapon to enter those membrane caves
Retarded game design.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cYPftHKwq7g
this guy's chinese-spanish-indian accent is a little weird, almost sounds american

all the guilds waited until the last minute to drop their retarded votes
shit was at zero moments ago

>>530338090
using guns is rare in the Dune universe, only reason Arakkis has them is due to Sandworms being alerted by the vibrations shields make

>>530338686
Still, there is no reason for you not having some sort of survival knife on you that you use with a button press, instead of being forced of carrying a melee weapon around for it, just for slicing membranes.

>>530338353
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ixW0DFodhKc
this one too, all these guys don't sound your average chinese-indian-mexican what the heck

>>530338090
>not carrying a sword or knife in a Dune game

dumpass

>>530338971
Is the issue you're having with carrying a knife a carry weight thing? Did your knife break just as you got to a membrane or something?

bearded man please give us a way to filter items/schematics in the trading post by rank/mark/mats required. there's a billion low tier things to scroll past and i don't know all the t6 names yet.

>>530334605
How so?

I actually find the building system quite nice for the most part. I do wish there were more options, like half floors and whatnot. I also wish structural pillars actually added support. But aside from that, its pretty nice imo. Full material refund, the ghosting and solido replicator, all quite nice.

>>530339936
I have a disruptor for shields.

>>530340263
No, I dont want to have a melee weapon on my hotbar on all times or in my inventory and putting it on my hotbar whenever I come across a membrane.

>>530338396
duraluminium week tb.h

>>530338686
>using guns is rare in the Dune universe
Considering how this game does guns - with drillshots and disruptors and poison and fire, it feels like they've made firearms too effective and useful.

Why wouldn't you use artillery that spreads mass shrapnel of drillshot pellets over an area to kill everyone even if they're using shields? Or a disruptor burst shell to disable everyone's holtzman fields with the shrapnel immediately following to shred people who no longer have shields?

They missed the mark on this imo. Ranged is actually too viable in this game contrasted with what herbert wrote.

>>530340629
You are that short of room on your hotbar with 8 slots? I gotta be honest with you this seems like a pretty minor gripe.

Anyways, it makes sense that those membranes would require a good blade to tear open. They are supposed to withstand sandstorms after all.

>>530304768
Wrong!

>>530341079
Sure, it's a minor gripe, but it should't be a thing.
"Press E to rip membrane" was all it needed.

>>530312307
The irony of this coming from a (presumably) pvp player is staggering.

>>530340629
>No, I dont want to have a melee weapon on my hotbar on all times or in my inventory and putting it on my hotbar whenever I come across a membrane.
This is a setting specifically and purposefully built around the idea that firearms are impractical and virtually useless in war because of holtzman shields

You are direct evidence they made guns too viable and did not effectively convey what this setting is like to new players.

This is a setting of futuristic knights, monks, samurai, etc. It's techno-rennaissance or techno-medieval. It's not gun-toting cowboys or american spec ops. Shields aren't meant to be like shields in halo or similar where it's just a rechargeable 2nd healthbar. You are, in all practical ways (as described in the novels), not able to kill someone wearing a holtzman shield by using a ranged weapon - the only reason guns are even used on arrakis (in the novels) is because the shields attract worms in the desert so there's a lot more situations where someone doesn't have one or doesn't turn it on.

>die of thirst in base
>deletes inventory
what the fuck?

>>530313434
NTA, but how can anyone with half an interest in games not know about this magnificent specimen of a 'thal

>>530341543
What's even more ironic is that huge swathes of these "PVE bases" on D/E rows are PVP players (who, of course, build in the PVE zone for safety)

>>530341775
You may be the first person playing this game since release to have died of thirst

Thanks for letting me know it deletes all your gear though. I had no idea, I've never even come close to it being an issue.

>>530341609
>This is a setting specifically and purposefully built around the idea that firearms are impractical and virtually useless in war because of holtzman shields
And yet you have loads of enemies that exclusively use firearms.

>>530341884
easy. be a zoomer.

>>530341917
Because Joel is a dumb American who can't conceive of a game without guns

>>530341917
Yes, that's part of what I criticized in my post. This game does a terrible job adapting itself to Dune when it comes to weapons. You really should not have much of an option against someone with a holtzman shield except to run over and stab him.

This isn't like, a tiny little gimmick thing for the setting. It's a foundational lynchpin that ties everything built in the world together. Of all the things to get wrong, this is something they really shouldn't have got wrong.

>>530341913
>You may be the first person playing this game since release to have died of thirst
I think I saw a streamer do it when he was content farming pretending he couldn't find water.

>>530342196
The conceit behind DA guns doesn't make a lick of sense either. Oh, they use darts instead of bullets? Darts are still goddamn fast projectiles that are turned away by the shield, if a fast knife swing won't penetrate you can be goddamn sure a sliver of metal flying faster than you can throw it will.

>>530342673
*won't, goddamn, typed faster than my brain caught up

>>530342673
In dune science magic lets special darts slow down and activate little motors or w/e to push themselves the last of the distance.

So then the game should have had only the dart pistol which would see sparse use, typically when fighting other players over spice on the sand where shields aren't safe to activate... If ornithopters could give ground combat room to breath, that is.

Then just roll trooper into swordmaster and call it a day.

Yeah they're probably gonna change the whole game because you feel a bit autistic about it.

>>530342897
And that would work if the enemies actually use drillshots or whatever to go through your shields, but no, regular old dart spam will take a player shield down because it "overloads the battery" or some shit. Come the fuck on, this shit is canon. You can stand all day at a gun range being shot at with a shield active and nothing will happen.

Should have had. Brakes were cut on release.

>>530343234
It is definitely too late to make the game's combat authentic to dune lore, that had to have happened months ago before players got used to it.

Some retard on the dev team wanted guns to work in dune, so here we are.

Give it a few months and I'm sure the only way to play dune PVP (on the ground in "melee") will be with guns after they nerf melee and buff ranged some more.
This is probably the only game on the entire market that even manages to do a decent melee PVP system that doesn't look retarded and isn't autistic. So you can be sure they will absolutely abandon that and embrace the call of duty noscope headshot linkpark montage audience instead.

>>530340716
>with drillshots and disruptors and poison and fire
Normal guns are more common on Arrakis because shield use pisses of the worms. Poison firearms are a thing: the maula pistol is a fremen thing and uses poison darts (its in the fremkit in Dunc 1, Paul assembles it and points it at Chani when they meet.)
Drillshots and disrupters are based on Stunners (which fire projectiles which slow down to penetrate shields) which is what Yueh used to take down Duke Leto and the Saudurkar used against Idaho in Dunc (and present in the books as well, firing substance tipped darts). There are variations of them in canon as well.

>>530343824
>It is definitely too late to make the game's combat authentic to dune lore,
It is authentic to dune lore with the exception of the lasers shutting off rather than nuking everything when they hit a shield. That authenticity is a problem, though, because it limits variety, and thus becomes boring.

>>530343912
And? These things are being used as an excuse to make the game a shooter. Their viability in combat stretched out well beyond how the books describe their use.

>>530344103
>it limits variety, and thus becomes boring.
I think this is the only actual viable argument for including guns in the game. It's a little more interesting than everyone being a melee build even though it doesn't mesh with the setting for people to all be using guns in every fight.

It's more or less ok right now, because PVP hasn't been entirely solved yet and balance is up in the air, but once the meta cements itself I'm 100% positive this game will be a defacto shooter with some minor melee elements rather than a melee game with some shooting.

Arguably it's already like that because 99% of PVP at the moment is people getting farmed by rockets. Even ground based PVP they let the AA rockets lock onto players, not just ornithopters and they are like acme tracking missiles lmao.

I dunno I think they could balance ranged weapons if they were competent enough. Alas that's probably wishful thinking.

I think Troopers should have better anti-air to defend from Ornithopters a bit.

>>530344868
>Their viability in combat stretched out well beyond how the books describe their use.
No its not, your thinking about that way because 1) the lore that shields make guns useless, which I already pointed out in Dune is true, but on Arrakis gun use is more common because shield use is restricted and 2) the fremen use melee to kick the ass of people armed with guns in their ambushes, but thats more about tactics and technique. Fremen dont use shields, so they fight in melee a lot quicker than trained people from outside of Arrakis (something Paul thinks about when he is dueling Jamis, as he has to adapt on the fly to melee without at shield).
Within the game, a properly geared and trained melee will own a ranged player, because ranged do not have to think about stamina managament (and thus are bad at it), and stamina management is all that matters ultimately.
>I think this is the only actual viable argument for including guns in the game.
the problems is people will feel the desire to progress, and they already have basically all the Dune canon weapons respresented in the game. Thus it will get boring, because there is nothing more to progress on. The game is TOO canon, because it has little in it beyond what is in the books that can be adapted to game mechanics. However, I believe they will add non-canon stuff in the future through the Tlexieu and Ixians, but will have to be careful about it.

dune combat should have sifu-tier complexity to it but we just got bamham auto-tracking button mashing instead
can't even blame consoles for this one since half of the current 'realistic combat sims' have functional pc to console ports now too

I've lost tons of shit just trying to bring things back to Hagga
Just poofed out of my inventory
Hundreds of melange, but that's hardly all
I never duped but now I wish I had

Why not just make flying tanks that fly at 500m and shoot everything to death with drillshots and explosives and poison gas canisters

melee? lmao

>>530343824
Are you too autistic to see that they did it for the sake of gameplay variety?

>>530347579
>Why not just make flying tanks that fly at 500m and shoot everything to death with drillshots and explosives and poison gas canisters
they could, if they could innovate. But the point of the entire Dune series is that humanity became stagnant aftter the Butlerian Jihad, with no real advancement after that because there was no ability to advance beyond what they had without committing literal heresy and having everyone dogpile you. All the tech you see is stale and old because thats as far as things go without thinking machines.

>>530347396
contact your local friendly dupist with evidence of your loss, and i'm sure he will be a bro and replace your losses. except cobalt paste, fuck cobalt paste, stupid heavy shit.

How do you do fellow Atreides supporters

member those anti-personnel scatterguns they were shooting out of the thopters just peppering the ground during paul's assault vs the saurdarkar just killing 10x10 patches of people including their own

>>530347579
Players should have access to gunships like the sardaukar ones. Airship battles, hell yeah. But the balance ooooh the balance

when do we get well designed body types and animations in this game?

everyone's built like an androgynous dickless/breastless twig and animated like a linebacker

>>530348681
>member those anti-personnel scatterguns they were shooting out of the thopters just peppering the ground during paul's assault vs the saurdarkar just killing 10x10 patches of people including their own
Yep. And the reason they could do that at all is because they knew everyone on the sand was shieldless.

>>530348681
>vs the saurdarkar
that scene was Paul and Fremen ambushing Harkos and their spice harvester, not Saudurkar. Hakos had black suits and guns primarily, Saurdukar had white suits.

Have you copped your neon-blue Tabr drip yet, anon? or are you officially a walking L, an unfashionable boomer?

>whole game revolves around traversing and exploration a huge map
>give players the ability to fly from one end to the other in under a minute
why? i feel like this cheapens the entire experience, the game felt gigantic before
that speed feels warranted in the extremely vast (and empty) deep desert, but not in the basin

>>530341913
I just wasn't paying attention, you can't interact with cisterns when you're downed and can't self revive with no water

dunc's reddit is pretty funny right now
a bunch of clanfags are screeching because funcom spawned control points in the middle of random islands before coriolis reset so all their shit got stolen/deleted by randoms in the middle of the night

>We have an alliance, federation, coalition whatever you want to call it with 3 guilds and we all use the same base in D6 for convenience purposes. We wake up to notifications going off in our Discord at 5am that our entire base got control-alt-deleted.
>Sandcrawlers, Carriers, Large Spice Refineries, Spice Generators, Large Ore Refineries, and every single thopter parked on 3 levels of hangars, all gone. Weeks of 20+ peoples time... gone.

I am convinced this game is actually dev'ed by third worlders because how do you allow everyone in the DD to get raided hours before the storm even reset

>>530354231
>Weeks of 20+ peoples time... gone.
Should have gotten a job

>>530354231
Solo players keep winning

>>530354231
They certainly had great timing with this patch.

Next up they'll do something similar in the basin and people will lose their home base too lmao

>>530355729
>spawns PVE control points where you have to wave battle NPCs for landsraad points or whatever
>puts them right in all the major popular base spots along the shield wall and cuts all the giant mcmansions in half
kek
i hope things keep getting worse

>>530349382
everyone on arrakis is constantly dehydrated. can't get fat tiddies without water, sorry bub

>>530354231
>weeks
with 20+ people you should be able to replace all of that in a single day, git gud

>>530358883
yeah, this is actually how it is, fat doesn't exist.

Aside from doing anything with the exchange, what is the quickest and simplest way to make money? Is it still just selling rad suits?

the pvpnigger seethe is hilarious
https://www.reddit.com/r/duneawakening/comments/1lu7uso/due_to_the_conversations_i_keep_having_i_think/

I wonder how the rulecucks who were seething at us dupeCHADS these last threads are feeling now that we're post-patch and unpunished with our 10k spice melange / pastanium medium storages in Hagga while Funcom rewarded their compliance and loyalty by deleting half their DD bases before the weekly storm

>>530354231
Yup, all my and my friends shit is gone from our DD base. We were a small group so we only had a large spice refinery, large ore refinery and a couple assaults and supporting infrastructure there, but all our melange we'd been refining and an additional ~600-800 Plastainium (plus the machines) is all gone. I'm not gigafucked because I have a large ore refinery at home at least, but yeah that'll be the end of this game for us if they don't roll things back or otherwise give us our lost resources / items.

>>530366801
i read through it, it's not even about the control point oopsie, it's about pvp in general, and it's full of pve crybabies trying to tell everyone they're griefing if you don't kill them honorably and people should talk to each other and we can allllll get along.

do bases still get wiped on the A line in DD?

>>530371025
The Coriolis storm hits everywhere in the DD.

>>530370595
There's other threads about the fuck up.
>pve crybabies
just be glad there aren't PvE servers or you'd have no one to kill

>>530371206
Notice how PvPers keep calling PvEers crybabies, yet in the same breath turn around and whinge about how they're so unfairly maligned and how PvEers are ruining everything

>thread propped up only by the few remaining posters spamming about pvp bogeymen
lol
lmao even

>>530371993
Imagine if they turned the upper half of Hagga Basin full PvP. That's literally what happened to PvPers.

>>530370595
>pve crybabies trying to tell everyone they're griefing if you don't kill them honorabl
honestly, I think PVPers should have to land and do the sword to the forehead salute like Duncan did in Dunc and then type in local chat "May your blade chip and shatter" before PVP flag is activated.

>>530372338
>Duncan
>Dunc
Oh shit. DUNCAN IDAHO IS THE KWISATZ HADERACH

>>530372184
Jesus christ, listen to yourself man. The PvPers were not denied any resources by the shrinking of the PvP zone, if anything they were given a more concentrated, target-rich environment where they were more likely to run across someone to rocket spam by sheer dint of density.

that's actually a good idea, to prep players for the deep desert, and make the rift more exciting, south and central and western should be PvE only, the rest full loot PvP.

Lost 500 spice Melanie today going back from to Hagga from DD. Every patch this game just gets worse. Also D6 apparently became PvP after Patch so some people lost everything.

The most stupid thing they did was to cater to PvE plebs that don't dare to go into DD PvP area, that update was rushed and it gave more bugs, we already had bugs that needed fixing. Holy shit I am seething. I do have extra spice Melanie at Hagga but I want back what I lost!

I want to fuck spice Melanie

I want to fuck spice

>>530372184
>Imagine if they turned the upper half of Hagga Basin full PvP.
i kind of expected that with how the game was marketed. i think doing this would actually leave people a lot less shell-shocked by DD in general as long as you left subhuman garbage game design like offline base raiding etc off the table

>>530372979
which one, Scary or Sporty?

>>530373302
I legit thought the entire game was going to have pvp enabled. I was so paranoid for the first 15 hours before I realized only the shipwrecks were pvp.

>>530372117
just did my weekly check up on power and there are so many abandoned bases, some even with multiple thopters parked

>>530370047
Ruining the experience of playing the game for yourself isn't exactly a big own, buddy

>>530372904
>The most stupid thing they did was to cater to PvE plebs
do you really feel catered to in this though
was flying your fag mobile around blowing people up really that essential to your being
fuck off and quit

>>530302969 (OP)
Anyone know why Dune is maxing my ram out and causing stuttering now?
Is it a ryzen issue or some shit?
I have 32 gb of ram it really shouldn't do this

>>530375410
>ruin the game by duping endgame materials
>have your game ruined by spending days of your life farming endgame materials that disappear for a myriad of natural causes
the illusion of choice

>>530376546
The question isn't whether the endgame loop is good or fun though. Ultimately that's what it is, if you don't like it then you're better off playing something else. Acting like skipping it entirely is some kind of big own is kinda silly since all you're doing is shortening whatever content span you might've had with the game.

i declare game dead from stupid and it being too late to turn the ship

every single thing about deep desert, landsraad, no in game guild search, all the "evergreen" post story bullshit. rust audience didn't help but also wasn't the entire problem

>>530376809
>shortening whatever content span you might've had with the game.
bro people's entire week-long hauls of spice and pastanium are just outright vanishing when they try to zone it back into the basin
your righteousness wouldn't be misplaced if the game didn't outright shitblast you in the face for the sin of playing it

>>530375615
Didn't do anything I do maxxfarming PvE and dont care for ganking. Now I am at T-6 and have ton of resources even came at 4th place in LandsRaad. I didn't mind when people shot my shitty MK scouts and I only went with assaulter when it felt more safe.
I want more content for both PVE and PVP. I will just patrol around WormRing areas and shoot people who bother farmers. What bothers me most is loosing 500 spice due to bug.

>>530377493
There's no righteousness, just pointing out that it's kinda silly to act like you're somehow owning people who don't want to engage with exploits when ultimately all you're doing is shortening your own experience with the game. If you're at that stage where you go through hoops to ensure you play less of it then maybe you shouldn't be playing it at all. Just worth thinking about how you spend your time.

man this base can't break down soon enough, bet there's good shit in there

>>530378387
Some clans base is next to mine and they have had no power for 2 weeks, only lost 1/10th of the bases HP so don't hold your breath.

>>530378387
get out of my base, tranny

>>530379669
It's sir

you can't play a female toon and pretend to be a totally straight male. It's kinsey scale 2 minimum, intrusive autogynephilic thoughts and arousal

does serena cosplaying autism or did they not have compound words 100 years ago?

it's not gay to suck men's penises in video games if you both pretend you're female actually

>>530380360
Joke's on you, I'm a solid 3 and comfortable with it.

>>530376403
Whatever was in this last patch it feels like it tanked my performance 20fps or so

Getting the feeling I should drop this game for a year and then check back to see if it went anywhere. I don't even feel like I'm playing a beta or early access, this feels like an alpha test of the game.

>>530380360
I play both male and female characters, can you diagnose me, Freud?

>>530378001
I am owning them, I am owning the devs by not playing their garbage and getting everything for future updates. If they're good then I have resources, if its shit I wont play. I win.

>>530381480
nta but yeah, your diagnosis is faggot

>>530380923
Who is this bimbo

>>530348706
>nose gun
>wing guns
>implying you could have multple hardpoint setups: scanner and guns, scanner and rockets, rockets and gun
>nope let's just delete nearly all vehicle weapons except rockets
The balance indeed.

>>530381557
That's quite the projection

this is what actual pvp looks like niggers

>>530383834
TOTAL VANU DEATH

>25 dollar season pass
>cosmetic
>side story and cosmetic
>cosmetic
>who the fuck knows
What the shit is this? Where is the content? Main story was a huge fucking cliffhanger.

If you ever think you're useless, consider
the ornithopter has headlights

>>530383834
stacking on one faction in a dead game? i'm already doing that in bns neo

>>530383834
Based and planetside-pilled.

>>530383834
>They've already said no to faction v faction warfare
IT WAS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS HOW TO MAKE PVP GOOD

>>530384512
It works well in the Rift actushutally

>>530384090
Their priorities are all so fucked up. People would pay for more skins player/vehicles and especially more building sets.

>>530384090
>it will be out next year
deadest of the deadest shittiest fucking game ever and steam needs to update their refund policy

>>530384090
That last one seems like another Zone, but it sucks it takes so long to get a new zone.

This thread is tempting me to reinstall PS2, but my old server (Briggs) got rolled over into Soltech and Soltech is supposedly dead and destroyed by chink hackers and I missed a window 4 years ago to transfer to Connery

It's so fucking over

>>530375410
>ruining the experience of tediously grinding for t6 mats

is there any point in making a solo guild to see what this landsraad shit is about

>>530389184
No, it's pointless.

>>530389184
you can get personal rewards anyway probably
if you can't, there is a point

>>530389021
avoid soltech like aids, this new osprey server has better ping if you're in the oceanic area anyway. they've merged everything down to like 1 so people can still play

>>530389184
I'm planning to do this since you can get some landsraad rewards now and I want swatches.

why can i see the outline of my orni's thrusters through my walls

https://files.catbox.moe/672o33.mp4
New dupe tech, this time from worst korea

>>530390095
I sorta wanna keep my high level character and all my certs and my 9.5 ESF skychariot KDR and see how my outdated shit, tactics, and playstyle compares to all these new toys.
Reinstalling now. I'll open a ticket to see if I can get my Briggs/Soltech chracter to Osprey. Maybe the customer support dude will aquiesce if I offer to buy a few months of daybreak subscription or smth

>>530390309
>https://files.catbox.moe/672o33.mp4
I spat out my tea, that is the easiest dupe I have seen in any game ever

>>530390309
just looks like he swapped to using a sandbike and buggy instead of ornithopter, did they only fix the ornithopter and not all vehicles?

Planetside 2 is so dead there is no point playing it because there are no battles bigger than CoD TDM

>>530390876
Not sure how to recreate this, was posted then deleted within 5 minutes without much context. It seems like there's 'shadow'/invisible items in the sandbike inventory that's hardlocking any melange put back into it to 180

>>530390915
I don't think it's the old lagswitch one, didn't see any of the high latency or packet loss warnings on the top right.

>>530391027
Might still be good for a a few hours of entertainment now and then, and just the novelty of jumping back into a game after almost a decade

Some of my fondest memories are dead times in briggs on dead continents, asymettrical, small fights like defending a tower base as a solo character against an entire outfit of newer playrers, guerilla tactics as a light assault, c4ing their sundies over and over again, etc.

>>530391027
before the merge it was but off hours has stuff like this and you do see the old 96+ v 96+ often enough

>>530391058
>Not sure how to recreate this, was posted then deleted within 5 minutes without much context. It seems like there's 'shadow'/invisible items in the sandbike inventory that's hardlocking any melange put back into it to 180
Well there are no third party programs or lag switching, so I think it must use the other method. Have not tested it but it would be something like putting the item in a bike, quitting for 30s, then moving items between the bike, a chest and another vehicle.

why does it look like theres a sandstorm when there isnt one

>>530394748
Coriolis storm ahead of the weekly DD reset

>>530394748
Why are you black?

>>530395991
i'm european

>>530384090
I think their plan was to provide main story for free like every three months or something

>>530396232
Are those also going to delete your thopter if you complete them lmao

>>530348490
What is the strategy in this game?
Join the winning side? Or is there some incentive to join the underdogs as well?

>>530398525
Watch for two weeks, see who dominates harder, join them.

>>530390309
i will do this one
fuck it

>>530390876
>>530402001
>>530393920
How does that even work?

I log in today to start crafting my first buggy and all my armor plates are gone. Nothing else, just the armor plates. It's not just that I have insufficient, I have literally zero.

I know I don't have zero. I've cut up vehicles even in the tutorial biome. What the fuck funcom. Where are my plates?

>>530302969 (OP)
There's like 30 decaying bases around mine, can I really not steal their stuff?

>>530406179
Check all your chests and make sure the output for them are set to the input of the vehicle fab. If this doesn't make sense, just go through all chests and fabs and make sure everything is set to circuit 1.

>>530406276
Once the console is destroyed by the weather anyone can loot it. Really wish it didn't take so damn long.

>>530402789
Dont know exactly, but its the same gimmick usually of logging out for 30 seconds then moving items between containers or using quick grab/deposit

did the coriolis storm hit NA already?

>>530398525
I might be wrong, because I only just started DD (been dragging it out since that's the worst part of the game) but my understanding is "winning" just lets you cast a vote for the specific thing you want.
Once the thing is picked, both sides gain the benefits of it.

So it's not as if the winning side wins advantages that help them to win more.

>>530407581
Storm soon fellow Sleeper.

Did they stop doing coriolis storms on the weekend?

>>530377312
The game feels like 1 competent person did most of the design - all the survival mechanics, stuff like stilltents, getting water, etc. all the PVE area content - all of this stuff feels well designed and integrated together and you really feel that in the early game especially

and then someone else swooped in at the end of development and threw in base building and rust PVP and just fucking wrecked the game

when you think about it, without a base you can't stockpile all this water, the resource tier grind disappears, your vehicle options get more limited without a place to put them, all the survival mechanics are enhanced. There's still pieces missing to make a complete game there, but everything that stems from base building and deep desert PVP just feels like it destroys whatever this older version of the game was building into, and now it's in this weird position where it's just incoherent with two different design styles clashing with each other and it just doesn't work

>>530407581
It hit already

I'm finding far less titanium and stravidium throughout E and below despite what they claimed. Not a single island so far with more than two combined nodes

>>530409916
There's a huge titanium island in mid-DD just like F/G6ish not that far past the PVE to PVP transition. Shouldn't be crazy to get a thopterload as a solo on off-peak, at least I got in and out without problems

But as for that 'increased PVE plastinium', well, 200% of miniscule is just 2x miniscule

>>530406542
Thanks I checked but it's just gone.

Very strange bug. Or maybe the stack got dropped on the ground somehow and disappeared;

>>530407525
Would be neat to know, I'm somehow a hundred spice melange short of crafting the large refinery for the achievement after 80 melange magically disappeared from my base

Any good guides explaining the DD?
Still only halfway through the Haga Basin, but I want to be prepared.

>>530413978
hahahahahaha

>>530413978
Take your time in Hagga, it's the far better side of the game.
DD is an empty wasteland for the most part where you're going to spend countless amounts of time flying around the void looking for T6 resources, spice, or labs/shipwrecks for schematics. Around the halfway point, it converts into a PvP shitshow where people grabbing spice get hit with missiles by invisible gankers outside of their 200m render range shooting at spice circles disappearing in the distance or you get zerged in labs by groups camping the final chest all day ready to call for backup. The better resources and schematics tend to spawn more often in the PvP half though there are rare titanium spawns or a few labs each week on the PvE side. You can get by easier solo by playing at more odd hours in the PvP portion or taking routes around the edges rather than through the center. You'll also get to experience the joy of painfully moving your base materials and loot back home for hours at the end of each Coriolis cycle. Here's the weekly map site that has locations marked
https://duneawakening.th.gl/maps/The%20Deep%20Desert

>>530413978
You loot shit and harvest spice.

If you go deeper then you get better loot and more spice, but it's pvp and at some point you'll randomly get blown up by 5 hornis

The rift is cool as fuck, but why is it so empty?

>>530413978
Yeah, skip it. Its atrocious.

So uh, how do you kill someone in melee pvp in this game? It's a struggle to stagger them once and they can just fuck off and heal. Every single pvp fight I've been in has degenerated into a benny hill chase and ultimately in everyone just leaving. I'm going to try and stack weapons (Burning shotty, poison trishot, poison rapier, 2 or 3 drillshots) so I can burst someone dead.
Is ranged pvp this bad too or is it just melee that's fucked?

>>530417882
The solution is simple, its bring 3-5 friends for every 1-2 enemies. This is the devs intended vision.

>>530417882
>Is ranged pvp this bad too
lol
lmao

it's even worse

>>530417882
>So uh, how do you kill someone in melee pvp in this game?
Crippling Strike bully them until they have no stamina so you can land other stunning skills into a stagger into a slowblade
>Is ranged pvp this bad too
*Kills your build with a single skill*

>play in a different region since all my friends are there
>100+ latency
>impossible to land a perfect parry in PvP even when timed correctly on my end
ebin

>>530418386
that is shit for melee btw, even in group friendlies stagger you or the opponent and it interrupts your slowblade

>>530421808
I'm in Norway, my friend is in Sweden, and our other friend is from Oregon. We all play on a European server. The latency is fucking brutal for our American friend.

what are the explosions I keep hearing in basin? Is it spice spawning or ships crashing? Or both?

>>530425142
If there's a hum accompanying the explosion, it's a ship crashing. If a shockwave spreads through your house, it's a spice eruption.

>>530425142
those are the review bombs going off, joel coded it so that everyone leaving a negative review has their base exploded into spice

>>530428285
That would be too based for his vision

>>530428285
>joel
>coding
hahahahaha
the fat fuck is the strawman figurehead for the studio

>supposed to be able to contribute to the landsraad after a tile has been claimed
>have no option to deliver the items house alexin is asking for
Is this part of Funcom's vision, too?

>>530433012
you hand them to your quartermaster. you collect rewards from the rep

>>530434263
Ahh, I should've figured they'd do some convoluted shit like that.

>>530435236
Yeah it's a weird design, I also heard you can claim your rewards even after the current Landsraad period has expired but I haven't tested it myself

i uninstalled days ago but i still have weird little cravings to hop back in just to fuck around with salvaging crashed ships
they're like little lootboxes full of garbage you'll never need..
i hope they do more of the cool 'breakdown' stuff like the salvaging with crashed thopters/trucks/cargo ships

>>530418759
I like this games ranged combat though.

>>530436384
PvE? Sure.

PvP? How? What do you like about it?

>>530436835
I don't play pvp and don't plan to until it gets major fixes.

>>530436183
Yeah it truly is a shame they were so stubborn about THE VISION instead of just doubling down on the things the game does really well. The fact that there's only a single crashed ship model is really crazy when you think about it, and I guess what's more crazy is that they still managed to make it fun enough that it doesn't detract from the fun of collecting them until you've reached endgame and realized what a shitshow it is.

The game would've been a lot better if they kept PvP as a sideshow with proper duels/instanced combat instead. With most of the focus remaining on exploration and the world itself.

>play on official release
>first three weeks my inventories are stable across multiple bases and vehicles
>Fuckcom tries to fix repair and dupe exploits
>things start disappearing
>can't exit deep desert
>can't log in on northern part of map
>exploits still going strong
Go fucking kill yourselves devs

>>530437771
Every spastic update they do makes things worse without fixing the issue its trying to fix.

Pure jeetcode.

>>530437558
>THE VISION
What the fuck it even was?
LE MAYMAY GUILDS MASS PVP in DD?

>>530437558
Not only is it the same model but the good loot is always in the same location. There should be different hatch location possibilities and randomize what loot is there.

I also think vehicles are a huge area for expansion. The modular assembly is really cool and they tried a bit with the buggy having 2 different rear options but there should be multiple parts per tier, not just a base model and then a unique that has better stats.

>>530440153
Joel's vision was that there would be these massive guild vs guild fights on each server where the popular people (Joel in this case) had a cult of NPCs orbiting them and providing the content

>>530441439
>The modular assembly is really cool
vehicles should be capped to their existing tiers when you first unlock them, it's annoying bullshit having to constantly swap parts in and out because your vehicle is 5% worse than the current material value

the current vehicular assembly system is going to suck so much dick if they ever add more to the game, because everything will have to be balanced and designed around this completely asinine 'progression tier system' that was needlessly inherited into the assembly

ten thousand tiers of mkxxiv wheels and engines
the whole tool and utilities line suffers from this bloated treadmill shit in general, really

>I am no longer a player playing a game. I am a victim to be victimized. Despite it being my own choice, the outcome is such that I could not handle the consequences. I thought the rewards too valuable; that I deserved them, despite my cowardice. My abject terror. Now the loss is too great, alas...I have memories, of what I envisioned, despite months of open beta research available. I thought it would be different!

>>530441904
>massive guild vs guild fights on each server
He's delusional. The ground combat is too jank for that. And the air... Imagine it's just 30v30 horni's throwing rockets at eachother. That just sounds awful.

>>530444637
>Imagine it's just 30v30 horni's throwing rockets at eachother. That just sounds awful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/duneawakening/comments/1lkooig/when_youre_just_a_rat_and_a_battle_rages_above/

there's a few decent videos out there of "joel's vision" already and it's basically the kind of made-by-children quality you'd find on roblox

>>530406179
My armor plates reappeared. Good thing I didn't just waste an hour gathering new ones.

Lol. Lmao.

>>530441904
>massive guild vs guild fights on each server
Was he living in a box for the last decade?
Everybody knows that this shit will almost never happen cause guilds either stack together for even more efficient farming or just dont fight cause they dont want to lose stuff in big fights.

Did a qucik tour of my sietch. Found one small starter base that was open and accessable (taxes were overdue as well), took his solari as payment. Found multiple larger bases that did not appear to have shields (their sub fief consoles were not glowing) and no active power generators, but I could not access their stuff.

My wife Ariste...

>>530447679
pretty sure if it's accessible it means they've actively abandoned their base

>>530450867
yeah in that case it was the only one that showed the permission level number on the door, and it was set to owner. Got 27,000+ solari out of it, so if he did abandon it most likely meant he left the game.

>>530443620
>it's annoying bullshit having to constantly swap parts in and out
So don't? My buggy is all MK3 except for a Mk4 Ray and Mk5 engine.

>>530447679
There's about 2 abandoned bases for every 1 powered base on my sietch now. I don't hear anyone talk anymore in chat either.

dead game

>>530454871
>make the individual sietches small but make a million of them
>only shared space is DD and the cities
Yeah it was bound to happen, and considering how much they're scrambling to let people build on other sietches they don't plan on merging anything anytime soon.

>>530454871
Sietches have on average maybe 20 players during peak hours. During off hours most will drop to single digits.

>>530455769
>merging
How would they even merge? People build their buildings largely in the same spots so a ton of them would overlap.

>>530455976
Low pops sietches get their bases packed up and materials put in a pocket void that they can access and build from. Pax Dei did something similar

>>530454871
On my tour, beyond the ones that seemed to have their subfief consoles powered down, even the real big guild bases in the NE of Hagga appeared to be completely powered down the minimum, with windmills that were no longer spinning but penta shields still up. Granted its a central US server in the morning of a weekday, so many of these big guild bases may have their people in the DD.

>hundreds of decaying bases
>all too greedy to let me steal their thopters
not fair

What the fuck is this 26 gigs patch if they keep fucking up the game in a barebone manner???

>Hitting a small spice field in the DD
>storm still swirling
>get a phone call
>look down to answer it
>second I do another player shows up off-screen and chain-stuns me two feet away from my thopter, taking me from full HP to 0 in 2 seconds
>uses a thumper to destroy my assault thopter with about 500 spice in it
Ok thanks bruv.

The game could have been so cool if they didn't try to force the MMO meme and allowed locally hosted private co op servers...

>>530467926
VISION'D

>>530468298
Yeah being able to ban bugmen cheaters and have your own mods would've made it a 10/10 game desu, maybe in a year or two after they realize no one still wants to engage with their shitty endgame

>>530467926
Um anon you consented by entering a pvp zone

>>530468298
Mods could have done wonders. Funcom is so stupid for forcing the online only mmo bullshit. Maybe it wasn't even funcom, it could just be the dune licensing somehow. Fremen orgies can't be a thing in their heckin modern DUNC. Privately hosted servers + mods could have built up actual communities. You know, people actually working together or having meaningful fights like joel's vision. Instead we got...this.

>>530467926
May you blade chip and shatter

>>530455769
I fucking hope not. There are so many sietches to each server. You only need fucking 2-3 considering every single one of them, has about 2 medium population sietches and fucking like 10 low population ones. JUST MERGE THEM FUNCOM

>Glitched for 3 days straight
>Never lost a single item
>Entire steam foums is people complaining about items randomly disappearing

Glitch chads stay winning

Seriously though the motto glitch early, glitch often always seems work

>>530474216
Anything still working? I'm still some resources short.

Some player bases I've used as landmarks are starting to wither away. Where once was a giant minecraft quality penis, is now ruins. Thanks, Joel.

>>530474679
I havent tried any methods for about 2 days now, once people started losing items. Just to be safe

Mainly just been refilling my generators and waiting for the game to be more stable

Also been trying to find the cheat/exploit that lets you change permissions so I can delete the stupid guild base next to mine

>Spent 2 hours last night with a friend flying from rock to rock to find T6 mats
>found 1 of each
What a great game, how fun, much enjoyment

Reminder that Funcom never financially recovered from AoC's botched release.

>>530481087
mine into a scout or if you're good at booster/flying, an assault. there's islands past e covered in t6 mats. if it looks like trouble, leave.

>>530482481
Our server is absolutely saturated with players. When we were in just the PvE part of the DD we saw at least 50-80 people flying around. Some were even following us (we were in an assault) watching to see if we triggered PvP zones. So it really just isn't worth it. It isn't fun to fly into a zone to get blown up, if it was ground based absolutely but not missile spam bullshit.

>>530481087
>>530483840
On populated servers you might have to resort to trading for stuff. I know guilds will sometimes accept things like bodies for materials since they have so much of it and are more interested in saving time transporting bodies for water.

>>530484394
>>530484394
>I know guilds will sometimes accept things like bodies for materials since they have so much of it and are more interested in saving time transporting bodies for water.
That honestly sounds like a heap of fun, but how would you even trade it easily? You can only trade window 2 bodies at a time at max, it would be slow as hell if you brought an Assault with bodies in it.

>>530484594
I guess if you trust each other you can just bypass the trade system entirely which is what my friends did on my server. But yeah there's a lot of improvements needed with the game systems to support this stuff

>>530484889
I guess bodies are pretty much worthless to lose and if they scam you so be it you won't trade with them again anyway. But I like this idea thanks anon I will give it a shot with a mate.

>>530468298
>High cost of living always online
>Section 8 housing with chinese cheaters
Doesn't make sense, this game doesn't have to be a live service at all. Could have even left this as is with private server hosting and a dev kit for modding and it would've thrived like any Bethesda game before it. Throw in some random DLC build kits and cosmetics or zones for that income from a bigger install base.
Are they trying to be Helldivers that also doesn't need to be always online live service?

>>530486480
>Are they trying to be Helldivers that also doesn't need to be always online live service?
Helldivers is a random group coop game where you jump in and out for 20-30m matches, its not comparable at all.

This is just some idiotic ancient 90s gaming philosophy on how 'epic' guild warfare is where you have rosters and forced play sessions for hours a week just to stay competitive. That dogshit which died years ago because everyone got bored of the zerg meta and having a second job. The devs just haven't woken up to the fact people have enough bullshit in their lives that they don't want to engage with even more bullshit when they play games which is why all good games are simplifying (i.e. Helldivers).

>>530485072
Good luck anon, I think the game is great but held back by an unnecessary endgame vision. Hopefully with a few updates they can figure out what they want to do instead of the half-ass attempt to appease both sides they're doing right now.

>>530487108
>Funcom
We're fucked.

>run into rando chinaman in t5 CRBN suit in the deep deep desert
>look at each other for a beat, assessing threat, then a siren blows and enemies start spawning en messe
>me and a random chinaman facing off 100+ T6 mercenaries in the H8 raid-level DD lab
>alternating abilities, warning when I put a turret up (since he's not in party the turret attacks him as well), shigawiring in to help each other when we get chainstaggered by 5x melee enemies
>in the climactic moment, have 6x enemy heavies + flamethrower clustered together, I take out the regis rocket launcher and start 'nading and he helps with the nades
It didn't seem like it would end but it did. We split the loot, t6 unique assault wings and boosts, pretty gud
Fun fight, good rewards, even leveled up and made it most of the way to the next one. May your blade be keen and not shatter, rando chinaman

>>530489636
cool story but it sounds like propaganda similar to Gran Torino, showing you how nice it could be if you let the chinamen live nextdoor 10 to 1 and nothing but good asian superstitious karma will happen to you.

>>530490538
Honestly asia server is so sparsely populated, player TTK is so high and T6 enemies are such sponges that I've had nothing but spontaneous cooperation so far from the chinese or whomever, they switch to English pretty frequently too even if they don't respond via prox voice (i guess shelling 100 USD for a western game means the worst scum are filtered)

me pointing my regis drillshot in warning against enroaching gooks and chinamen in the DD

how long does it take for t6 chests to respawn

>>530496664
An hour

started new charter and used this base here on the map. had to cut off part of the square. I got no clue how it's supposed to fit in an adv. sub

>>530467550
They have versioning problems and an amateur dev team -repackaging half the game every update and reintroducing bugs that were fixed by their last patch 3 days earlier - these are telltale signs of a bad dev environment where versioning isn't setup properly.

When are they going to add a barber shop so we can change our bimbos looks?

>>530468298
I legit would play the shit out of a procedurally generated valheim version of dune awakening rather than this slop
The only thing I'd be missing out on is the ground PVP mechanics which do look pretty cool, but it's not like I get a chance to play that kind of PVP right now anyway.

This whole game is like one giant missed opportunity. They're SO CLOSE to having something good but what they actually threw together in the end is schizophrenic and bizarre.

rando chinamen are a gift
refreshingly innocent and earnest compared to the compainly, bitching-to-dev cynicism of the westerner
i'll do everything i can to protect DUDU's smile

>>530487108
Ground PVP mechanics are a good baseline although I think they go over the top with the abilities
PVE mechanics are great but need a lot of tuning to make everything less convenient/unchallenging

The deathstill problem giving players infinity water for example could probably be solved by moving all the NPC's into PVE dungeons.

Remove all the little camps everywhere and put a time investment floor on getting a corpse and that'll shift like 20-30% of players to windtraps instead of deathstills. Reduce the amount of water per body and increase how long it takes and it'll help kill the ubiquity of water further and make it feel a little more scarce again. Would also indirectly buff the exsanguination tools which also basically go in the trashcan once you've got a deathstill.

Still doesn't solve the primrose fields and dew reapers though. That's something that was made for a world exploration game where you don't have a base with a 1000 liter cistern in it, nor a need for industrial processing chewing through all your water. They are instead designed around an entirely different game where you have a stilltent, and your only source of water for the entire day is harvesting it from a primrose field and if you don't, fuck you, die. (Or perhaps sit in your stilltent until the next morning) but it really doesn't work together with the bases + cisterns + deathstills + windtraps.

>>530501472
Considering how the characters look and the lack of emphasis on character appearance, maybe a year from now when they get the first expansion out the door. If you're lucky.

If they actually gave a shit, something basic could be done already. Baldur's Gate 3 has this exact same issue, but since the game could be modded people fixed the problem in the first week, and then the dev team solved it like 6-8 months later officially.

So that gives you an idea how much these people care about your bimbo dressup simulation

There's actually a fuckton of emphasis on character appearance for a openworld survivalslop, given the amount of (surprisingly comprehensively animated) quests and story stuff. I know I wish I spent more time on the sliders once I'm seeing my ugly-ass dude stretching for the umpteenth time with Ariste and Zandara on the Salusian Bull couch

Don't worry, even when they do add a barber shop to customize your character, all you'll be able to change is your hair color and makeup. If you made a goofball retard you're permanently stuck that way :)

>>530502307
What they should do is add new harsher maps and leave hagga as the you can use every tools OP zone. It baffle me that DD is not entirely ground base for a start

>>530504982
>It baffle me that DD is not entirely ground base for a start

>>getting run down in your loaded buggy by south american sandbiker squads yelling for you to pull over or die in broken english
>making all-or-nothing desperation routes through worm territory just to try and shake them while bolts and lasguns spray everywhere
>hiding in the cliffs and sniping raiders off their bikes to steal their shit
instead we get 200m draw distance in baby's first rocketcopter arena, and a zone designed exclusively around air superiority
thanks joel

>>530482403
a game with thongs, big breasts, sexualized emotes, and topless nudity in an MMO was unheard of and going the opposite way of what gaming has birthed: man-faced, androgynous, if not downright purposefully ugly females, in video games today.

i rolled with SA's guild, Hordes of Goonheim, and we did the tier 1 raid and then it disbanded. by myself, as an assassin i was abusing the full combo animation skip bug that happened when pressing a charge move and a combo's final press, unleashing one-shot damage in about .1 seconds. people would just watch me wind up a combo in the air, charge and they're dead. also had a tortage twink for ganking.

>>530505830
That sounds so much fun by simply subtracting something. Im early into jasnium and I still dont want to build a thopter because it seems to trivialize everything while sandbike riding is kino

>>530506425
sandbike and buggy are great

I wanna drive the buggy across the dunes and set up my little fremen camp somewhere with a tent or maybe some camper attachment on the buggy

The game is screaming for exploration content and gameplay like this instead of deep desert 10vs1 thopter gank squads with portugeuese, chinese, or cyrllic spammed in the chat

Honestly the flight, energy mechanics, netcode, handling, and just general feeling of 'thopters are wonderful. It's just the game implementation and how head and shoulder above every other option they are that make them affect the game badly

I hope the next level of progression map will have an environmental thing that totally grounds them and is designed around ground transpo
The mad max scenario >>530505830 described sounds great

>>530506909
I really like the thopters, they are fucking amazing

but they fuck the gameplay so hard and I don't know how you'd fix that and also keep the thopters

like if you made the world 100x bigger so it felt like it actually took effort to travel, that just makes any ground travel obscene in comparison.

most people suck at thopters and don't realize that there's always a net positive energy gain if you vulture nose pitched up slightly then press w periodically.

Laughing at these ganker retards ineffectually chasing me with their all black t6 scouts from I to E in DD burning fuel at high alt while I coast at 800m without a drop spent

>>530507040
If you had wind, that could at least make travel by thopter difficult.

Make some areas so windy it constantly pushes thopters in a specific direction, give them gusts, add damage from slamming into things. Make it dangerous to fly in some conditions and people will choose to use ground vehicles instead.

Category 1-2 sandstorms where it just reduces visibility and makes flight dangerous, for example. Rather than simply screwing everyone over.

Feels like the sandstorms should also be actually shoving objects around too.

Why the fuck is this thread full of reddit spacing retards?

>>530508201
>reddit spacing
disdain for proper text formatting means you're a retard, sorry anon

>>530508201
Cause people here read books you illiterate faggot

And stay mad

Lol

>>530508660
They're not using "proper text formatting" you fucking retard.

>>530508756
Kill yourself

>>530509019
Did you just use a reddit space inbetween you two replies ? Damn
fucking actual nothing-to-say retards like you should just lurk forever. screaming reddit on this shit website is overdone. go touch grass

>>530508201
xir stays up 20 hours a day asking chatgpt to search for things to cry about because he gives pve suspensor blast tutorials and bad melee advice, having never set foot in the deep desert, perhaps never even purchasing the game. doomtrannies always insert "le enemy game" into their posts. here it's planetside 2 and conan. in poe it's diablo. in diablo it's poe. the doomtranny always points to some other game and says "that's better, come home white man!"

>another reddit/tranny boogeyman crybaby out of nowhere
Its all so tiresome

we should shut that guy up by posting our full mk6 bases as proof we play the game

>>530511928
everyone's probably too busy having fun to post theirs, we'll try later

>>530489636
Aren't there usually gank squads waiting for solo playeres like you dudes at the testing stations?

https://duneawakening.com/news/developer-update/

RIP dupers

>>530524105
>https://duneawakening.com/news/developer-update/
>I might be getting my shit back
Just when I'd finished moving/sorting everything to quit, they pull me back in.

is it still a cube base if I cut out a chunk of the cube?

>>530506909
>t's just the game implementation and how head and shoulder above every other option they are that make them affect the game badly
the problem with thopters is that while rockets used by thopters are entirely consistent with the source material (which is Dunc, not the books), 1) a movie is different from a game and 2) they dont have all the things shown in the movie in the game. They are beholden to the movie, but in Dunc, roockets are only depicted in an air to air role. Dunc 2 shows what they want PVP to be, in the Fremen ambush against the the Harko spice harvester, where a thopter is shown with a weapon that operates essentialy like a stream of rockets does in the game (the mounted auto shotgun thing) and its used to great effect to mow down unshielded Fremen. But thats a scripted movie scene. Players are not playing the same way as depicted in the movie, and are not following or are constrained by a script. The devs built a game that is very movie accurate, but that does not make it a sound game.

>>530524105
>https://duneawakening.com/news/developer-update/
"We have zero tolerance for the type of player behaviour that has an impact on the experience of other players,"
Removing PVP, then?

>Friend breaks into some guy's base in PvP DD after sandstorm
>Owner comes back and is circling him in a thruster scout thopter trying to keep him in sight
>Figure it's unlikely I'll kill a thruster thopter before he runs away or pockets, but head out in my rocket scout to help
>Reach the base and he's hoovering low with his his back to me
>Dive on him
>He lands and gets out the same moment I loose my first salvo of rockets
>Immediately killed
>Lasgun his orni to death and leave
gg no re kiddo

>>530526338
the new region will be pve, they said this like two dev letters ago. they also said everything that was already in this letter, focusing on bugs and stability rather than producing pve content for the time being. the pve area in the south DD is covered with so much titanium/strav now that even with people building shitshacks you can fill up and farm med spice fields to your hearts content, if you still actually play the game.

>>530524105
>hundreds
This stuff has been done by thousands at a minimum, probably tens of thousands.

They're just banning the most egregious cases and letting everyone else off.

>thopter eaten when it glitches into the ground on spice sand
>devs talking about refunding vehicles lost to bugs
>so mad after it happened that I closed my bug report without submitting

Welp. Probably not getting that back. Oh well.

come home white man

Half my loadout just disappeared from my inventory lmao wtf is wrong with this norge kusoge

Yeah fuck this lasgun and a couple of unique weapons gone

Don't quit guys there is still a 10% chance they can fix this and turn it around

>>530508201
>>530509019
Fuck off tourist. Double spacing has existed for centuries.

>>530524105
>did the durability fix glitch on some unique story items I'm never going to use again, just to see if it worked
>they're sitting in a chest and I haven't even looked at them in a couple of weeks
>still kind of nervous and considering just dropping them on the floor and logging off

what the fuggggg all my gears disappearing guys dead game

>>530533669

I just wented into the deep desert and lost it all, fuck this game

>>530525289
Yes embrace the cube

>>530525289
This makes me wonder if it would be possible to make a hollow cube with huge pentashields replacing all the internal walls, with a big open space in the middle.

what resists are you supposed to run in your cores? chill?

>>530538678
Wrong general?

>>530538779
ya, doing my dailies on TFD

Does anyone know if the voice cooldown reduction ability works with litany against fear or others like weirding step and bindu sprint?
It seems like the cooldown reduction would only be working on the more plainly stated voice commands in that tree.

>>530541879
only works on stuff under the voice tree

Ive been warned about funcom incompetency but holy shit this is bad. I didnt engage with DD yet (thanks lord) but now im forced to drop the game out of boredom. I made an excellent base im proud of but I dont even want to go resupply that shit every 20 days. What a fucking mess of launch

>>530544985
You're not going to play the game even once every three weeks?

Alright boys, time to see if I got banned!

>>530547095
>not even a warning
Kek eat shit, reddit.

OH NO I HAVE BROKEN THE RULES AND AM SUFFERING THE CONSEQUENCES? HOW SHOULD I HAVE KNOWN IT WAS AGAINST THE RULES TO BREAK THE RULES? FUCKING REDDIT

>>530548931
Time to take your meds, schizofriend.

What kind of jank is this

>>530549194
Time to stop the niggardly behavior

>>530545140
Well the last 3 weeks has been a total regression. I guess I could just power off everything in my base and let 1-2 generators running and swap to other generators each 20 days. I think I got 50k in the bank so I would see need to go farm money for taxes. Doesn't sound all that fun now does it

>>530549461
The important thing to take away from this is that the repair bug is back lads

>>530549903
There's nothing wrong in gaming the system, especially when the devs are actively shitting in your mouth once you reach the Deep Desert.
Enjoy farming for the next 100 hours only to lose it all to their sheer incompetence.
All part of the vision.

>>530550817
I'm just taking a break instead of cheating

can't believe so many anons had D6 DD bases, specifically, the only sector that was affected.

>>530551442
D6 was right next to the big E5 spice field. I guess that's why there were so many people there.

>>530551442
>>530552496
It was fucking city; even the other islands nearby were still busy (and those in other sectors).

I was remodeling my base and somehow deleted 3 chests that had 200k solari and all my best gear and tools. I didnt notice until it was too late and the items despawned. Ive noticed that sometimes when demolishing walls and stuff it will delete the items behind the wall instead. This game has been really pissing me off lately

>>530555868
always remember, wali
it is better to be pissed off than pissed on
ibn qirtaiba

>>530559223
>it is better to be pissed off than pissed on
So true. Bi-la kaifa.

Is Tier 6 even worth it or should I just stick to 5 and chill in the basin?

>>530561523
Right now I'd stay away from DD until they fix people losing items when travelling to and from the DD
Looks like it's still happening

ahhhh if i want the cool atreides military outfit i need to buy TWITCH SUBS for someone???

>>530566726
hey thanks for the gift subs, welcome to the wolf pack big dawgs!!
>pogfaces at the camera like a trained animal for 5 seconds
whoahhhhhh!
>returns to adderal-burnout thousand yard stare at monitor

>>530567136
Thank god you can do this anonymously because i need that fit

>>530568704
You run around a lot in social clothes in Dunc?

>>530569993
No but I just think it's really cool. Yes I know it's a garment transmog.

>>530561523
>Is Tier 6 even worth it or should I just stick to 5 and chill in the basin?
Tier 6 is not worth it because Tier 6 is entirely about the DD and the DD is about Tier 6. Unlike all the other tiers, tier 6 has nothing in it worth the grind unless your in the DD grinding t6.

>>530568704
I would not pay $10 just so I can have a social outfit transmog that you have to manually switch to every time you go to the 1 social place in the game that will have all of 3 people in it if you're lucky and they will just zoom past you to do whatever they're doing without a care

>>530574390
I would because I'm mentally ill. If I could pay 100 to get the stupid swatch and Muad'dib pet from pre-order that I missed I would.

>>530574390
I'm sure with updates they'll add a better outfit system so you can switch between them on the fly.

>>530576397
nah buddy devs fail to add the most basic shit into their games even with literal years of time to do it. You won't get a better outfit system or appearance editor in this game for probably 2 years after nobody plays it anymore.

basic bitch simple shit like this which a modder would get out the door in a week always takes devs years to do

>>530561523
The basin becomes way too easy after getting 6 gear. 5 is enough where you feel powerful and accomplished but not overpowered and boring like being level 100 in vanilla Skyrim.

>>530508201
Its a reddit tier game, what do you expect?

>>530582176
Calling things reddit tier is reddit tier

>>530585280
fr fr no cap

>>530302969 (OP)
Im still cracking up at OP's image
Good humorous choice

>>530551442
They do it on purpose, like tricking people to eat rancid seed oils that smell like dead cockroaches. If the most popular spot to build a base in the DD were A5, they would've done it to A5.

>>530561523
T6 doesn't even help kill the NPCs despite the massive stat inflation as they are bullet sponges. Supposedly some of the best gear is still 5.5 purple sets in hagga.
Flying in DD is just burning up your time until you somehow get a crawler to snowball all the spice you'll never need again in a day.

Is the item fuckery fixed yet?

>>530593720
lol
lmao

>>530593803
How to dupe, then?

>>530593895
same old thopter method works except you use a buggy/sandbike instead
>but how do i do dat
youtube has at minumum ten pogfaced grifters that are very excited to show you with a step-by-step tutorial

>>530594339
Oh, gotcha. I'll see what I can find.

>>530590821
Everybody loves Ricardo.

>>530594339
Fraudulent, YouTube gives nothing except outdated thopter shit

>>530596245
funcom's been sending out copyright strikes on anyone posting videos

>mfw my gimp brings me a new chairdog for my septic tank house.

>just reached aluminum tier
>game still fun
How much longer until it crashes and burns?

>>530596818
depends on how many friends you made along the way.

>>530596818
You can keep going for a long time if you stick to the achievements that don't involve T6 materials, finish up all contracts, go deep into building a huge base and a full T5.5 purple loadout. The disappointment comes from solo / small guild players trying to grind for T6 or engaging with Landsraad tasks.

>>530597056
I've seen the endgame described this way several times and it seems no different than any mmo ive ever played. You either join up with some zerg for pvp/raids(are there even any?) or you live on scraps.

>>530594339
>just do the old thing but with a sandbike or buggy
>step 1 was flying a thopter in and out of deep desert to prep which cannot be done with buggy or bike
>step 4 was using the backup tool which cannot be used on a buggy
Does not compute

>>530596902
I'm playing together with my brother.

>>530597279
Not enough for DD unless you are extremely careful. More pain than is worth it unless you can get a dozen or so more.

>>530596740
Isn't that the one uncle from the addams family

>>530597232
If that's your perspective you should be fine, I guess? Nobody is shitting in your soup here.

>>530597279
Depending on how dedicated you are and/or how willing you are to engage with dupes you can go for at least the T6 cutteray to finish all contracts, but to build all T6 vehicles as a duo is near impossible even with dupes.

>>530597430
>>530597474
I mean when we reach endgame we can try looking for a guild, but it might not be an option with the retarded server/sietch system.

>>530597436
That is prime Harkonnen ubermensch stock.

>>530596740
chairdog?

>>530597602
How many players can a single instance even support in this game?

more observer parts coming up, still far from making your base not look like shit

>>530597681
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Chairdogs

dune wiki posting can be almost as funny as star wars wiki posting

>>530597803
So they DO know what people want

What's the DUNC Awakening equivalent for this?

>>530598204
I think this same thing about Alien3. I think it's a damn shame that Fincher disowned it and it's probably my favorite entry in the series after the first one.

>>530597232
The difference is traditional MMOs encourage group play throughout the entirety of the game, while Dune has almost no tools for finding people/guilds and doesn't really encourage you to until you reach T6. It's a rugpull design.

>>530598456
I think the take in the screenshot is retarded as fuck and goes well with shitting on DUNC for no other reason other than to be contrarian. Don't necessarily disagree with Alien 3 being an okay entry to the series.

I wanna fuck my axlotl tank but she loose af
what do

>>530598772
Submit a warranty claim and enjoy a tighter replacement

>>530598712
They should have made the various dungeon things way harder and encouraged grouping up to beat them. But with the combat as it is I feel like that would make them into damage sponge slogs.

>>530597232
>I've seen the endgame described this way several times and it seems no different than any mmo ive ever played. You either join up with some zerg for pvp/raids(are there even any?) or you live on scraps.
Your not wrong. Pretty much every MMO has two broad tiers of equipment; stuff used while leveling/overworld and stuff that is used in instanced/endgame content (and where the term "gear treadmill" is applied). This game is the same. There is no need for T6 stuff in Hagga Basin at all, even the weapons are not going to give you a noticible improvement over T6 in Hagga Basin because T5/5.5 is already OP for it. All the other stuff is meant to enable group play for the current vision of guild on guild PVP action.

>>530598972
>>530598972
>They should have made the various dungeon things way harder
Absolutely not, considering NPC difficulty means tons of hp and getting swarmed by a combination of melees who try to stagger you and heavies that pelt you with ranged attacks that take you from 100 to 0 in 2 seconds if you ever run out of stamina.

>>530599225
this. If they want to go down that route of design, then they have to go further down the path of the trinity and introduce tanking, etc.

>>530599525
That would be a quick way to absolutely trash the game mechanics

How to ACTUALLY make the NPC's fun to fight:
Improve their AI so they do things players would do in a fight and aren't so simple that the only way to increase difficulty is turning them into bullet sponges

If they can't manage to do this, they need to fuck off from touching the combat mechanics and just accept the fact they will never have good PVE encounters with NPC's. The absolute last thing this game needs is shitty and retarded MMO "trinity" bullshit that has not worked well in a single game that's done it.

>>530598204
>>530598456
>>530598732
DUNC 1/2 is a better movie by far, but its also the least faithful adaptation, which I would be fine, but some of the bits that DV changed were because he was a coward that did not want a Muslim cutting his head off. And he apparently is going to jump the shark big time becaue the latest rumor is that Dune Part 3 is a combination of Messiah and Children, and those two works are pretty much the opposite of the kind of material that DV should be adapting to a visual medium.

Lynch's Dune was a more accurate to the book at the expense of its quality as a movie.

>>530600254
>How to ACTUALLY make the NPC's fun to fight:
>Improve their AI so they do things players
Why would they do that? No one in this space actually does that because they can just whip out the well worn manual of MMO design tropes. ChatGPT can probably write all the approrpriate code for it by now. No one has improved enemy AI like that; the biggest innovation in the last 20 years in that realm was rollslop.

>>530600502
DUNC 1 and 2 are not even in the same ballpark. The first film is head and shoulders above the majority of most modern entertainment.

>>530597920
While we're on the topic. What is this thing?

>>530597254
>>530594339
Your response?

>>530600885
Some random shit so that general audiences know that Dune has random shit such as that in it and more importantly to show that the Voice can command it even if it doesn't understand the language being spoken.

>>530600838
eh, I guess I disagree, but only because I dont like either one of them for different reasons, but DUNC is more entertaining and visually appealling (and just feels like Dune most of the time), but should be labeld more as being inspired by Dune rather than being an adaptation of it. Lynch Dune did a lot better job with being accurate to the books material, but that does not mean being accurate makes good movie; its too stilted and reliant on exposition shoved into odd places. When I watch Lynch Dune I feel like I am watching a play of Dune rather than a movie.

>>530601763
>I disagree with DUNC being the better film
>also here's why DUNC is the better film
I don't understand

>>530601998
by "first film" in >>530600838 , I took it as referring to Lynch Dune, not DUNC

>>530601763
I last watched Lynch Dune as a small child and just remember having my mind blown the whole time.

>>530602172
Aaahhhh, gotcha. I meant DUNC Part One is a lot better than DUNC Part Two.

>>530602269
for its time, yes, it was definitely a spectacle. I am old enough to remember it coming out and even following its production in Starlog. I suspect part of its poor reception was the non book reading audience feeling it was trying to ride on the success of the Star Wars franchise, which is ironic.

>>530602376
I like DUNC 1 more than 2 as well, but the opposite seems to be the case in the minds of the general audience. 2 had more battle scenes and explosions, thats probably it.

>>530602708
I read somewhere Frank considered suing George Lucas. Not sure what came of that. The similarities are interesting though, and is exhibit Z in George Lucas being a hack.

>>530601763
I'm conflicted on it. They both take liberties with the source material but one thing that I can say for Lynch over Villeneuve is that the changes seem concessions for timefitting/making the film a single cohesive story whereas with the new movies the changes seem to be based on ideology.

I can totally see the argument for how Paul summoning rain at the end fits with the changes to "folding space" in the movie and why that was necessary to put a nice little bow on it. It's worse than the book, but whatever I get the point. But I don't think anyone will ever be able to convince me that token Kynes or shrew Chani etc were necessary changes

>>530603525
Star Wars had many inspriations, big and small, but Dune was a big. Herbert's estate/son/whatever would be better served in sueing Games Workshop, since 40k is by far a larger, more direct and egregious rip off that Star Wars could ever be considered to be.

>>530602954
Yeah, DUNC 2 was just more accessible and compromised. It had a lot less depth, fewer nods to the original material, less extreme pacing and as a result it was much more palatable for general audiences. I don't know how many times I've had people complain to me about the Fall of Atreides scene dragging on for too long when it's literally one of the best uses of the actual audiovisual medium of cinema in modern film. Obviously pretty much all of that is lost if you watch it on your phone, but that's hardly the fault of the film or director, that's like saying a 5* meal isn't enjoyable when you're shoving it up your ass.

>>530603556
>one thing that I can say for Lynch over Villeneuve is that the changes seem concessions for timefitting/making the film a single cohesive story whereas with the new movies the changes seem to be based on ideology.
I agree
>But I don't think anyone will ever be able to convince me that token Kynes or shrew Chani etc were necessary changes
I agree. The thing that sticks in my craw the most is excluding jihad as a term. DV being a Frenchmen pretty much seals it for me as to why he refused to use it. He is on record as someone that hates dialog, that fine, so why replace a word with two words? Did not want to get the Charlie Hebdo treatment, thats why.
Also, ive mentioned elsewhere in this thread; Chani has tawny red hair, yet no adaptation makes this simple fact apparent. Zendaya would have been pretty close to the perfect Chani visually (other than her face being too fat) if she had dyed her hair.

Console version when?

>>530606869
couple years after they get to a 1.0 release (they are still in beta).

>>530604639
>tawny red hair
So auburn?

>>530607409

>>530607694
Nobody has a natural hair colour like that.

>>530597920
>noooo the game can't have anything but human enemies or it'll be breaking canon!!!!
>literally bioengineering mammalian organisms into massage chairs

>>530607409
in practice, it would be a stawberry blond, probably. Just not whatever black or dark brown all the Chani's have had on screen.

>>530607919
Just fucking make her ginger then

>>530607802
>Nobody has a natural hair colour like that.
>in a game set on an alien planet 20,000 years in the future, with people running around with Eyes of Ebad and shit
so? I did not write the book.

>>530597803
>second campaign
Would it fucking kill them to put up a steam announcement that there was a first one? I fucking hate Funcom doing this shit with Conan too.

>>530608040
And they failed to do even that in every adaptation on the screen. Its such a simple thing, for a character that only has a sparse physical description to begin with (skinny, elfin face, tawny-red hair, and because she is Fremen, tanned skin).

>>530600885
Tleilaxu body horror
they do all kinds of whacky shit, like making zombie clones of the same guy for tens of thousands of years to bang hot women, and then activating their Zoolander programmering with singing dwarves.

I hear they sell pretty good replacement eyes, though.

>>530607906
3D printing car parts is already breaking canon.
Then again, how exactly does a thopter manage its individual wing BPM in a setting with no computers? Is this all kraut space magic? Am I going to open up one of those spherical joints and see the inside of a G-11?

I think Frank Herbert was one of those guys who wrote about computers without really understanding a single thing about them, like many iconic science fiction writers before and after him. His focus was on people.

>>530611152
They have computers, just not "thinking machine" ones, meaning AI.

>>530611152
>a setting with no computers?
the likeness of a human mind =/= computational directives

>>530604639
Villeneuve is from Québec not from France dude. Not saying you're wrong about him playing it lite for the hollywood industry just that he has nothing to do with France's Charlie Hebdo saga culturally

>>530611152
The idea of machines with humanlike reasoning and decision making skills has been around for much, much longer than our current understanding of what makes an "AI". Thinking that Herbert wrote out of complete ignorance of what a computer is is, itself, ignorant.

>>530611960
It takes a special form of Francophone cowardice to curse by 'Tabarnak' but to be too much of a pussy to say 'Jihad'

>>530611472
>>530611667
I'm pretty sure even a hand calculator is religiously proscribed, hence having mentats to give calculations. We're not talking a sensible removal of rampant AI, we're talking "jihad," where people burned their IBMs in effigy across the stars. Beyond Animatrix level shit.

But then also I've got this thing that prevents molecules from vibrating at me past a certain speed, and this anti-gravity belt. Because that shit is just a matter of boiled water and clockwork I guess. The only thing that I can think to make it make sense is "the thinking machine-era humans laced themselves with all kinds of wild nano-tech and post-bulterian humans are now utterly mutated to superhuman capacities" but I also refuse to read anything by Brian Herbert.

The best way to read Dune is to read Dune, and then stop. The distant second best way is to read Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, solely to get to God Emperor of Dune, and then definitely stop. The second we reach "Chairdog" territory, the setting has become something else.

>>530612249
Yes and no. I'm a Québécois myself and we have a strong culture of self-laugh. Tabarnak (Tabernacle) is just an item from the Church. This debacle over Jihad is more about the public perception of white people shitting on their own historic religion (catholicism) and walking over eggshell when talking about other ethnicity beliefs. Have you seen the public sphere since 911 ? Its simply dumb DEI shit as usual nothing more

Villanueve originally wanted to call it crusade btw, it was that way in the DUNC 1 trailer

>>530606869
The UI is so retarded I literally thought this was a PC port of a console game

>>530561523
T6 refineries are worth if you have nothing else to do and like number going up (big ore goes from 7 per alu down to 4, spice is 2x as efficient and cooks in 10k sand batches, med chem is also like 30-50% better too).
Carrier is nice to have and serves some limited function in hagga

The trendline for this game is sub 15k concurrent players within 3-4 weeks.

The redditors are delusional and can't accept it, many of them even look at these trendlines and think the game is doing well lmao, but what are the devs doing? This game was going to be their 10 year live service game and it faceplanted within 2 months.

If it took them 6 years to reach this point I don't think they're turning this around within a single month.

Time to brush up resumes I guess.

>>530615357
Pic related btw.

I am an avid redditor and never installed this game.

My PC can't even run modern games.

I just shiddy my diapies in every new game thread to make myself feel better.

>>530612438
Messiah is definitely worth reading. Short and fun to see the results of Paul's Jihad and his power levels. The first book ends very suddenly and doesn't let you appreciate the ramifications. I always recommend reading the first two books.

So basically wait untill night time when there's no one playing to farm in the DD since peolle just gank all the time.

>>530616967
See I feel that Messiah is terrible, because it A) Does Chani so dirty and B) Forgets that Paul's prescience extended into awareness of the present moment, not just past and future, he knew when the Emperor's ship was in orbit, unless I'm misinterpreting something. Also the idea that Paul was beaten because his future sight was blinded is dumb as fuck, his whole triumph in the first book is to throw himself away from clear futures and into the chaos, where the Guild navigators were too dependent on their future sight, to the exclusion of all other senses. Paul going "oh woe is me I must walk this shitty path" for 329 pages while Alia fucks her zombie uncle is honestly a huge waste of these characters and their mythos.

The best part about Dune is it stops telling the story after spending the whole story telling you EXACTLY what happens when it stops. There's no need for any further continuation, the story was perfect, but people always want more, and Frank Herbert needed to eat.

>expect The Glutton to be a "bloogy woogy woo I eat people" bad guy
>he's actually Dune as fuck and a super interesting character

I honestly wasn't expecting the writers to have put in this much effort for the open world survival-crafting game, but here we are.

>>530615357
>>530615903
Why are you retards so obsessed with the active playercount of games that aren't based on a monthly sub fee or regular content updates? It sold more in the first week than Conan did in a whole year, and they didn't abandon that game. I know you love to doompost but you really gotta bring something better to the table than this steamcharts garbage.

>>530621045
Yep I went in to the main story (and frankly the whole game) expecting it to be eye-roll and typical throwaway survival game garbage. Instead they have some surprisingly good writing and honestly 10/10 VAs for almost every NPC.

>>530620136
>the story was perfect
it was, but it was not the full story of what Herbert wanted to tell. Or felt he could tell and get money for it. Remember he sacrificed a good bit in order to become a novelist, might as well make as much of that as possible when he could. That being said, Dune has a good enough ending that the other books are not necessary, but the overall arc of Paul and how he ends is ok, especially how it ends, and it also acts as the setting for an overall greater story with a differnet message than the Paul arc.

>>530623191
It simply shows how bad this game is doing for what it set out to be. Even these threads are on the verge of dying with 1/10th the posts they were getting just a week ago. What I actually want to know is what this dev team plans to do about their collapsing playerbase.

Are they just going to plod along like this is what they actually wanted? Will there be huge revisions to make the game fun past the 60 hour mark? Will they introduce a moratorium on base decay to make it easier for people to come back? How are they going to bring players back to the game having already lost over half (and likely within a month, >90%) of their launch audience before they've even got their first content update out? How is a live service game going to make money to justify its continued maintenance costs without a large pool of concurrent players eating up the bits of overpriced DLC they shit out? What could this studio even do to resolve this mess if they lack the talent to do anything more than tweak numbers, destroy player inventories, and create more dupe bugs?

There hasn't been any serious reassurance that they recognize problems with the core game design nor that they have plans and ideas on fixing it, and past experience people have had with this studio suggests they just pretend problems don't exist and double down on what doesn't work out of egotistical bullheadedness. Is that going to be the case with Dune: Awakening too? From what I can see, the answer is yes, and the company is continuing to fail to assure me otherwise. They can't even effectively communicate with their customers outside of the discord.

>>530625345
>There hasn't been any serious reassurance that they recognize problems with the core game design nor that they have plans and ideas on fixing it
The first community update posted was an entire page of them recognising that the vision and core design (for endgame) didn't work out. Are you just LARPing as a shitposter or did you not look at anything they said?

>>530612996
Thats just called a symbolic inversion which is rampant in everything now. Consider yourself lucky that DUNC, for a worldwide american blockbuster, didn't had more of this perpetrated revisionist shit.

I don't get why they have to walk on eggshells desu. Fremen are cool, takfiri niggas are cool, didn't everyone watch Saleel al-Sawarim and all those fire ISIS execution videos?

Instead of celebrating Islamic mujahid coolness you have these retards going 'B-BUT CHRISTIANS ARE THE REAL BADGUYS YOU GUYS BUTLERIAN CRUSADE' without prompting

>>530627592
Then you clearly don't have a clue about the political landscape we're subject & poison to from the Western World, sorry.

>>530628275
I bet the jews in Geidi Prime (canonical) who are responsible for this...

Is this game fucking dead yet so I can remove my bookmark to this general, jesus christ

I played Conan Exiles a lot, and I like PvP. Will I enjoy this game? All the back and forth bullshit in the community is giving me mixed signals

>>530628563
The game has great fondation but its poorly used by the dev. The endgame is completely broken and detach from your first really great 100 hours. Dev seems to have goodwill and good communication so it still have good potential long term. If you go by the ratio of 1$=1 hour of game enjoyment and like Dune then you should definitely get it. Just treat it as a solo experience and don't rush a ornithopter to kill your sens of exploration too quick.

>>530627592
I can probably get a fatwa against Dune issued by a Shia imam by telling him the following: the book is about Muslims being manipulated over thousands of years by female Jesuits to believe certain signs are used to identify the Mahdi, and the reason they did so was to create a support base for a false prophet they wish to manipulate. They call this false prophet a name derived from the Kabbalah. This false prophet leads the Muslims on a jihad that kills millions/billions of innocents.

>>530629272
That sounds about right for FunCom honestly. Dune is great, I read all the books as a kid and like the Lynch movies. I always play games solo so that parts perfect for me. Cheers, anon!

>>530629517
That's why Fremen Zensunnis are cringe faggy simps who worship Bene Gessussy like IRL Sunnis worship Aisha cunny

Meanwhile based and redpilled Zenshia Tleilaxu know how to treat a hoe correctly and turn bene gesserits into Axlotl tanks

>>530629856
>like the Lynch movies.
keep in mind the games visual aesthetic is derived from the modern DUNC movies, not Lynch.

>>530632084
tell that to my three jawed sandworms bub

>>530635179
well, except that. Its probably that way purely as a tribute to Lynch Dune, would figure the DUNC worm was easier to model.

>>530636828
dunc worm is really disappointing in this game. I heard it was out in the big spice fields in the DD and went out my first time, waited around to see it.

It's just a little peak. Like barely pokes the edges of its lips above the sand before it goes away. 0% epic.Puckers up like a bleached blonde anime girl giving a goodnight smooch and it's gone.

then I got blasted out of the sky by half a dozen thopters

>>530625345
Someone explain to me how the fuck it's even possible to be this fucking retarded. Are you fucking high bro?

>thread is days old
wow i sure was a 'doomtranny' when i was saying this wasn't going very well

>>530509735
when this cocksucker slithers back, i want an actual apology and for them to suck my dick out of its socket. fuck yourself bro.
try to say 'game needs help' and get told i am a tranny. fuck you. now you and your 30 slant eyed friends can rocket the sand when you're the last 30 left. fucker

>>530628559
3-4 weeks and it will be, there's nothing they could possibly change to fix it in that timeframe.

>>530638321
tbf the only people left playing this are third world grifer squads, small friend duos, and casual dads who put in an hour of gathering 2 stacks of iron with a hand laser and calling it a day

all the big groups basically quit as soon as they started getting their melange and other shit completely deleted from the game during map transitions.
you can see a reflection of this in pretty much every other discussion board for the game - the only ones left are the lemming sycophants that are too retarded or too slow/casual to actually reach the relevant point where the game starts to fall apart post-aluminum (or more precisely, post-thopter)

>>530628563
I would say no, not in its present state. Unlike the other guy I don't consider 1 hour of playtime worth $1. I typically spend $15 on a game and get a few hundred to a thousand hours out of it, so this game is actually very expensive in comparison.

The initial portion of the game is relatively good, but you're also led onwards thinking more things are going to open up while also getting more challenging and more interesting and more involved, but it never does that. It actually slowly crumples on itself, and by the T4-T5 point you're starting to realize the game's never really going to clinch together.

A lot of redditors complain about the deep desert, but the problems the game have started before you've even left the basin.

IMO save your money and give this game a pass, revisit it in a year to see if they fixed it, and if they haven't, shrug and move on.

>>530640349
damn pity too. only hurts because it was good until it wasn't

>>530640712
Yeah I was having an unironic blast, then I wasn't. It was like a switch went off and nothing that I previously enjoyed was fun any more once I saw past it all and how poorly thought out things seemed to be. I still managed a good 150 hours for 50 bucks so I can't complain too much, I just hoped for something more meaningful in the end.

>>530641095
>>530640712
The game stopped being challenging and unpredictable and rewarding.

No new stories to experience, same formulaic unchanging and deterministic process to deal with water, sandworms, NPC's, and sandstorms, PVP that does its best to make engaging with it cost more than you get out of it.
If they added another hagga basin to the game with completely new content but without changing any of the game mechanics, you still wouldn't be able to get through it, because the content itself isn't the problem - it's the game's inability to directly challenge and consistently hit on the things that drive people to play videogames. The novel unpredictable experience and the problem solving you do is what was actually fun and engaging, and now its become rote and that lack of dynamism and novelty has translated into boring.

Jaime Greisemer talked about this two decades ago in Halo, with "30 seconds of fun", and Halo definitely succeeded at that. In fact, doom was fun for a very similar reason: Both games gave every enemy type completely different behaviour and capabilities from every other enemy type, and Halo took this a step further and actually randomized squad composition so that every playthrough and encounter was meaningfully different every single time you played. Fighting 3 elites and 3 grunts required different weapons and strategies than fighting 5 jackals and 1 sword elite. This kept the game refreshing, dynamic, novel, and replayable.

Dune: Awakening doesn't capture any of that dynamism or replayability. The parts of the game that could do it, have been either over-simplified (sandworms, sandstorms, NPC fights) or made too convenient (water, travel).
Without any dynamism to the experience, your brain isn't finding it rewarding anymore. You did this already, there's nothing new to learn. Now you are just wasting energy and time and your brain doesn't like that - so it becomes boring to you.

>>530623391
>some surprisingly good writing and honestly 10/10 VAs for almost every NPC
KITTEN KITTEN KITTEN KITTEN

>1.5 hour downtime
it's almost daily at this point
I wonder what they'll break this time

>>530654693
Pajeet roulette.

I shoulda bought stellar blade

it's called zazen

>>530664735
Eh. I thought it was like a 5/10. Would have been a 7, maybe, except the story massively broke down in the final act. Like absolute nonsense.

I'm still having fun not gonna lie
Interior design is my passion
I just think parrying is neat
And I like camping in my stilltent
Also I feel immersed just being in the game it really makes me FEEL like fremen
The music is good too

>>530646687
She was the exception to the rule

So I finally got to the point where I need significant amounts of melange to progress gear, which means Deep Desert. Am I missing something regarding the gameplay loop there?
- you raid pve sites, but they are all single time loot on lengthy respawn, with no way to know if site was recently looted until you get to the final container
- you farm titanium and stravidium either in drips and drabs or by risking going to big islands
- you stare out at the desert looking for spice blooms - because you can't hear them happening unlike in the Basin - and hope to get there first and get out alive without getting blasted to bits by vulture swooping scout thopters that load in for you 2secs before firing rockets
- how often do mid and large blooms happen anyway?
- you fly around the desert looking for pre-bloom bubbling and wait fuck knows how long from nearby island to get a minute head start on it, assuming no speedhack cunts online at the moment

>>530685649
Correct. Welcome to The Vision

>>530685818
Yeah nah I'm good. I'd probably swallow this cock for a bit longer if I had a way to get meaningful amounts of spice with active gameplay - maybe limited extractions during pre-bloom bubble phase? Or anything else? I guess I had my money's worth Hagga phase was quite fun to do.

>>530685649
Your endgame loop depends entirely on whether you're playing in a group or not and how big / active the group is (you can also you know.. make friends in game).
>- you raid pve sites, but ...
You can often (but not always) check from the exit to see if a chest is up.
>- you farm titanium and stravidium either in drips and drabs or by risking going to big islands
Yep; consider taking a group to look threatening (like an animal pack), and scouting larger islands to see if anyone's home before committing.
>- you stare out at the desert looking for spice blooms ...
Kind of not really. Other than blows close to the safe zone line it's not usually THAT competitive for spice except during the most active hours (YMMV depending on server, I'm going based of my relatively busy DD historically). You can usually find old medium spice fields that have only had 1 person touch them or sometimes not at all during less busy hours. Even for large ones if there isn't already a group there most(?) people are usually pretty chill.
>- how often do mid and large blooms happen anyway?
Less often than before the DD pve expansion but still pretty frequent, though they feel scarce sometimes.
>- you fly around the desert looking for pre-bloom bubbling and wait fuck knows how long from nearby island to get a minute head start on it...
If you see the pre-spice bubbling it's usually less than 5m out. This isn't really an intense race like you feel it is either.

>>530686343
The actual endgame being resource collection is kinda ass so I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to bother, but I will say your specific concerns aren't really real and seem to be made of other people's public complaints reddit complaints. I think you should make some plastone and go build a small base out on a D or E pve island and try to actually play / interact with people before writing it off. Worst case scenario your apprehensions were right and you stop playing anyway.

>The actual endgame being resource collection is kinda ass so I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to bother, but I will say your specific concerns aren't really real and seem to be made of other people's public complaints reddit complaints. I think you should make some plastone and go build a small base out on a D or E pve island and try to actually play / interact with people before writing it off. Worst case scenario your apprehensions were right and you stop playing anyway.

NO JOEL I AM NOT LEAVING THE BASIN

>>530688938
I know it is very tempting to just go " Redditor lol" in these situations but that's all my personal insights after ~2 evenings living out of a shitshack in pve half of E5.
>Rocketed to death in a blink of an eye on a small field despite trying to be on guard
>Near death experiences on Titanium island nearby
>About 50% rate of success on lab/wreck looting (I do like the fights even if enemies are tad too spongy)
>Not a single med bloom witnessed

>>530689750
How DARE I suggest someone actually play the game before preemptively giving up based on reddit complaints and other retarded posts.

>>530692061
>preemptively giving up
Why are people on here consistently pretending anyone voicing issues with the endgame are parroting third parties?

>>530692308
Because strawmanning is just soooo tempting, I guess.

>>530692061
that is ok i forgive you

>>530692308
you're interacting with the failed family generation who grew up in single mother homes with youtube father-figures on their monitor being their only general narrative in life
their entire way of thinking is inherently bricked

>>530692861
You don't NEED a failed family to be a fuckup, I managed it all by myself, even without social media.

I just put my base in suspended animation for the moment, have enough fuel and solaris to make it last a year, I'll just log in from time to time to pay taxes and top up the generators.
Anyone else doing this?

>>530692308
>Why are people on here consistently pretending anyone voicing issues with the endgame are parroting third parties?
Usually because they admit to having not interacted with it at all or are green as fuck. On top of that nobody is defending the end game; there is no endgame. It's just materials donations for landsraad and a slow grind of t6 mats and spice to harvest more spice / bps. There is no pinnacle activity or organized event to use any of the gear on.

>>530692861
This is a boomer game retard

>>530693464
i converted everything to solari (which everyone duped the shit out of anyway)
it will be enough for a merchant buggy if i ever play again

>>530693464
>Anyone else doing this?
no lol
you're a literal data livestock statistic at this point that joel and his cronies can point to on a graph during their monthly shareholder humiliation ritual
stop falling for 60gb+ compulsory dripfeed games that eat up your storage and time under the premise of hollow obligation

>>530693464
I'm planning to. Maybe I'll go for small fief tax heaven instead. How are taxes calculated anyway?

>>530693778
an base advanced sub fief is 4000 solari, it goes up from there based on extensions.

>>530693778
8000(?) for fief
add 2000 for every extension
paid automatically from the bank
the fuel is incredibly likely to run out before your money does

>>530693721
>>530693778
valid options, I just wanted to keep my base, even with a replicator i'd be a pain in the dick to place correctly.
>>530693743
I have the space and the time to do as I do, stop being a resentful fucking faggot for every single one of your replies, you histrionic fucking faggot.

>>530694080
btw, you can always deconstruct your production buildings/workbenches and just leave enough generatos for your pentashield, the consumption will be almost null at that point, 4k fuel cells would last you for a long long time, but yes, you still need to log in to fuel them and Im pretty sure the tax payment is not automatic, cant really tell. Either way I can do both things in under 5 min.

>>530694789
>you can always deconstruct your production buildings/workbenches
you dont have to do that, you just disable the power to the machines/gens you want to shut off in their settings.

>>530694789
i could be mistaken about it being automatic actually, i did it manually once and read the bank could do it but maybe they meant you could pay from there

>>530695425
from what I have seen/experienced, its not automatic.

>>530694318
>>530694789
>>530695395
>>530695425
Or you can just ship enough raw materials and shit to restart later to the bank and enjoy booting shit up again in half a year without the hassle of remembering to log on in the meantime.

>>530693464
Sort of. I am living in a tax evasion sub-fief, so I just have to keep generators running. Currently I'm still open to try and grind up on some of the remaining achievements, but at least the T6 materials for the large spice refinery, sandcrawler and carrier are pretty fucking daunting for solo.

>>530695395
Oh didn't know that, welp good to know for next time.

This general is still alive...?

>>530665549
I wish it would go on discount, looking forward to finally playing it

>>530676971
Yeah the game is fun whenever you take it slow and ignore the actual video game mechanics (i.e. progression)

>have female character
>Paranoid has the same hair style and color
pottery

>need to kill some miniboss for some quest
>dungeon already cleared by someone else, including boss
>log out and back in an hour later
>either still not respawned or someone cleared the dungeon again
Brilliant game design.

How is this even fucking possible, there's like 15 players online in my sietch.

>>530703921
is it the "Making a Martyr" one? If so, that one is still bugged (target is in a different station) even though they supposedly fixed it.

>>530704830
No I don't think that's it. His name is red scorpion

>>530705079
ah ok, that dude in the underground bit of a station, in a little fort made of scrap.

>>530703318
yep...

Just got these from two nearby shipwrecks in DD PVE. Is this about the best one can get from there?

>>530712404
You absolute buffoon.

heres your new twitch drop parts bro

>>530714247
That's awful.

>>530714247
The stairs are okay.
Past few years twitch drop content has been dogshit, but its for the best, the service needs to go.

>>530640349
this is accurate, I am a casual dad playing this game about 2 hours a day, doing exactly what you just described, I haven't even left hagga basin yet and I've been playing since pre-launch. I'm just now about to reach T5 stuff. I got my first ornithopter a few days ago.

I love this game and my kids enjoy watching me play it.

>>530718410
based dadgamer

>>530712404
looks like they're from A row, which drops tier 5, B row and beyond drop tier 6 unique schematics. you must go deeper.

>>530714247
Do the "windows"/doorways look any different from the other side?

>>530714247
>go to twitch
>put on some random channel that promises drops
>mute tab
>go take an extended nap
>back 2.5 hours later
>1% earned towards first drop
What the fuck man?

>had twitch stream in the background all day for the shitty drops
>finally able to play the game myself and see the drops
>only now do I realize the stream I had on didn't have drops enabled despite saying so in their stream title

How do I report 80 Grit for duping?

>>530731115
worked for me

How does this transmog system work? Do I need to craft a piece to unlock it as an option or does finding it in a chest or buying off the exchange also work?

>>530730712
its the same either way

>>530732786
Bleh. Thanks for taking the time to show me though!

>>530329543
They are called BP_
Because they are blueprints, all actors are (always) blueprints. Its the naming convention every professional uses.
T. GameDev

>>530734220
Ok Sanjay

UH OH STINKY

Steam is down

>>530735879
>use the same chinese gold-farmer name for both characters
what did he expect

>>530740339
Are you stupid

>>530740502
no, just too much spice.
this shit got me seein' genghis in my genetic memory
this shit got me witnessing jihad, brother.
DISENGAGE! DISENGAGE! DISENGAGE!
this shit ain't nothin' to me, man.

>>530735879
I'm glad cheaters are being banned but I'd really rather just have locally hosted single player games or dedicated servers so I can just play this game alone. I have a total fetish for solo MMORPGs like SPP Classics and Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning. I'd run a local EverQuest server if I could just so me and my friends could be the only niggas in Norrath.

>>530742557
DA would be perfect for it too, and if they gave us some more tools you could make the world/weather much more hostile to keep the survival experience alive past the point of getting vehicles.

They said they're gonna add like, more side quests and some kind of big ass dungeon in the DD.

holy fuck will you soloniggers PLEASE get out of my MMOs

>>530746252
alright then, POOF, there went the entire remaining playerbase as groups and guild players are already long gone

>>530747535
my group is still playing sweaty

>>530747932
waiting hours to gank some solo player barely qualifies as playing

>>530748448
do you really think only solo players are the only ones that hate this game's """""pvp"""""

Dupe status: yes. Banned status: no. Dupe early, dupe often.

Just dupe responsibly, that's all it takes. More than enough to meet all your needs but not retardedly obvious and server economy-breaking
If the gms see someone with 100k spice melage that's an obvious banhammer, but someone with 5-10k can scoot by with plausible deniability

>>530748874
I've been out to DD a few times and only met pals so far.
I honestly think having no huge spice blooms outside of PvP is a huge mistake.
People should be more confident going out with their spice harvesters and carryalls and form impromptu spice crews. The draw distance is too shit for spotter craft to be there for anything but nearby worms.

The real problem is that a huge portion of the players have no desire to engage in PvP, but are forced into the area if they want the most efficient path to the end-game. So the population must inevitably end up in a place where you're less inclined to interact, meaning people either stay in the basin or come to DD but avoid interaction with other players.

Luckily there's a mostly intact honor system with regard to spice crews, and I haven't been in a fight with anyone. It's the other reason I feel they should just give up on making spice a PvP zone, no one wants to fight in that area as far as I've seen, we all just want to get our spice, and there's plenty to go around.

>>530749182
>>530750689
>mfw I duped just enough to build everything
>mfw roughly 100 spice melange disappeared so now I'm short
Sad

>>530751569
Just buy it in the exchange, dupers are unloading to try and escape the b&

>>530750876
I've spent one or two dozen hours in the pvp areas of DD just farming ore and spice, no desire to pvp if there's risk of loss. I've only died twice and it was to faggots waiting until I got out of my thopter to blow me up with rockets. Both times, my assault thopter was thumpered. A lot of the players in my DD are chill but there are some guilds that aren't sadly.

so once i'm comfortably in t5.5 / t6, got all the vehicles I need, i have a large ore refinery in my hagga tax haven house and everything, all that's left is cosmetics, twitch drops, and landsraad swatches?

>>530754562
>landsraad swatches?
>solo player
hahahaha

>>530754562
How the fuck did you get 1000 spice melange as a solo player? Dupe central?

>>530754726
>hand in 9 full suspensor belt to quartermaster
>get swatch and some t6 schematic
pretty easy and quick to get many of the rewards from landstraad solo. only shit ones are stuff like kill thousands of some npc type or hand in 5000 steel ingot or 200 ship manifest.

>>530754562
Level 200, tax haven base and vehicles is pretty much the end of the game beyond roleplaying.

Which is what I'm doing, acting as a water boy for the DD flying in 15 bodies at a time and trading them for any T6 materials/cash people have. Its comfy.

Week two of having a subfief built over adjacent Stravidium and Titanium nodes in a pve area so I can safely farm by setting an alarm every 45 minutes while playing other games.
I of course have a buggy with a mk6 cutterray built inside to increase gains. Waiting until we get the Landsraad crafting discount before I refine.

>>530759614
How much of each and/or how much ore you projecting to make from that?

>>530746252
I love group content, but have no irl friends, Dune failed to create mechanics to promote in-game player operations so no fuck you I will solo and its the devs fault.

>>530732786
>>530714247
Its annoying that this is clearly a fully finished set and they're dropping them piecemeal over what will end up being months and months.

>>530732786
>Lets put in a window
>And then put a giant fucking piece of metal in the middle of it
What were they thinking.

>>530759702
While other gaming, I put in collectively only a few minutes tabbing over whenever my alarm goes off to fire the laser, plus a bit of time at the end of the week hauling spoils home.
About 300 ingots a day on a medium refinery.

>>530757795
There's spice spawns in the basin. You can also get some sand from some POIs like station 60.

>>530760210
Yeah, but I was short 10,000 spice sand. Fortunately, I had also stashed 500 duped melange in the bank that I forgot about, so the chievo for building everything should pop on next login.

>>530759791
You don't have friends you met from other games? Christ dude.

>>530762659
Most of you people are weird

>>530765961
go and stay go

>>530758553
>>530754562
what the fuck is a "tax haven" base

>>530766552
5x5x6 tax free sub fief

>>530766552
sub-fief console base that doesn't pay taxes
I never built on an advanced, I hate the idea of paying a c*rrino padishah emperor my hard duped solaris

you can fit everything in a sub-fief if you're smart about it, save maybe for an advanced vehicle fab and a large spice refinery, but for the former I just made a temporary vehicle factory next door using my second sub-fief slot to get my t6 thopter stuff

Everything powered down in my tax haven base means it only consumes 24 fuel cells a day to keep shields up against sandstorms, and needs to only be reupped once every 20.5 days.

>>530766552
normal sub fiefs (the first kind you build) dont pay taxes. Advanced Sub Fiefs do. Advanced Sub fiefs are bigger by default and can be expanded, but normal ones are limited to 5x5x6 square build area.

>dupes to the point where resources and money aren't of consequence anymore
>still builds an ugly piece of shit concrete rat bunker just to avoid taxes
for what purpose

>>530767795
because in order to keep a fuel generator base powered, you need only log in once every 20 days, press E at the subfief console, hold down y to fuel the generator, and log off again. Howvever, in order to pay taxes, you have to fly to Arakeen or Harko, walk over to the imperial tax dude, and pay him.

I love my concrete Advanced CHOAM sub-fief shitbox tbeych
Essential, rugged, utilitarian. My first base after leaving hagga south that I kept upgrading and addding floors to, expanding into an open 'thopter bay, deleting and rebuilding the console to eke out more vertical space for the higher grade refineries and fabs, etc.

Feels a lot more satisfying and lived in than all these cookie cutter atriedes guild bases with the copy-pasted reddit domes and eyesore-level amounts of pentashield.

>>530769134
dont they take money from the bank automatically

>>530769209
The cope of every player who sucks at building

>>530769617
eh, feel free to disagree, but I like my base much better than others I see.
Why don't you post yours, if you're so good at building?

>>530769757
I don't have one, I live in my guild's base

>>530769962
>guildcuck

>>530769458
no

>>530769209
i liked mine too
it makes sense
these people are building palaces in one of the most hostile regions of earth
in all practicality, people would build a concrete bunker cause that is what arrakis deserves

Anyone have screenshots showing what the swatches look like for the landsraad houses?

holy fuck these cunts camp shipwrecks even at 7am (I thought I was fighting an NPC)

>>530769209
>Start game
>Make shitbox
>Get further into game
>Make another shitbox
>Get even further
>Elaborate fancy multi-stake base with hours of work put into it not making it look like a shitbox
>Reach the end of the game
>Return to shitbox
I am sorry shitbox posters, I was wrong. You were blessed with hindsight I never had, no taxes, more than enough space for multiple buggy/thopter/assaults and plenty of room left over for a storage, crafting and leisure floors.

Im already loving my new and final shitbox, having the garage be on both the ground level and above a cliff means I can use it for my buggy and thopter at the same time.

>>530784335
i admire your artistry anyway, i wouldn't be able to make that

i like brutalism unironically though and what people call depressing i like

'oppressive atmosphere/jewish' my ass, this looks peak

>all that trouble for THREE bashar's command
you'll gotta be shittings me

true gigachad move is building massive, elegant bases in the deep desert every week

>>530786263
Brutalism is great, people misunderstand it because they think it just means ugly, which to be fair many soviet architects who copied brutalism did a terrible job at it. Good brutalism has to play with light and thats what most of them miss out on.

>>530786856
>he wanted the kharpov

>>530628563
>I like PvP
many such cases have been claimed here, but they also claim to hate the pvp in this game, also no one else is ever posting their mk6 base but me, and i was called many names for being in a guild. this thread is full of alleged solo players who are disgruntled.

>>530786856
that impure extractor tho, for your boy who still collects blood

>>530692308
probably because they give full on pve suspensor blast tutorials and don't know anything about the end game just "THE CHINESE HACKERMANS!" with a screenshot from the front page of reddit.

The heck is this about suspensor blast anyway? I never used it and I don't really consume content slop for the game.
>>530786953
Can an architectural style that relies on light hitting it just right really be called "great"?

>>530797073
>thlop!
someone posted a clip of themselves eating shit in a DD lab, i said they don't know how to use suspensor blast, someone proceeded to give a chatgpt description of how utilize it because they have no idea about what people are doing in DD for weeks now. they don't fight, they don't duel, they don't gather spice, they don't play the game. larpers who claim they're in mk6 but can't post their bases.

>>530793501
>>530798016
>enraged spic returns
>anyone who said anything bad is part of this wild conspiracy from reddit to make it look like shit
you'll be playing in your faggot blue sand all alone in a week tops

here is some chinkshit baseslop that has been out for a year

if dune had a sandbox endgame with basebuilding and survival elements, where did all the people playing it go?

oh no, don't tell me there was no plan and it was dogshit?

Jocasta is so cute.
I wish I could get her outfit so many of the npcs have cute outfits.

>>530754726
I only started doing Landsraad 2 days ago and I already have 2 stillsuit swatches as someone at T5 whos never even been DD

hurr durr kitten im such a bich meow murrr kitten kitten

The endgame for carebears should have been some sort of city management and local politics ala Star Wars Galaxies.

How is he not getting eaten?

>>530809358
Suk doctors drive without rhythm so they won't attract the worm. They also neglect their turn signals the fuckers.

I wish we had a real way to traverse DD on a buggy and mine that titanium without these expensive ass carrierthopters.
Managed to drive all the way in a pvp zone - good job, here's your 3000 ore cargo.

>>530358883
>everyone on arrakis is constantly dehydrate
>can't get fat tiddies without water, sorry bub
This is why I liked the book: the Fremen women were extremely sexual.

On raiding abandoned bases: Keep in mind its pointless unless and until the fief console is destroyed. If you find what appears to be an abaondoned base but you cannot access anything and cannot find the fief console, or you find the fief console but its more protected than anything else in the base, its almost certain that the rest of the base will be destroyed before the fief console. Even if the fief console is well exposed, a lot of the stuff you may want to grab may be destroyed before the fief console. I have one that is on the roof, totally exposed, and taking damage, but everything else is being wrecked in the meantime.

>>530807407
I have not done the Landsraad at all because I cannot; if you have not aligned with a faction, its locked out for you. Im waiting for Smugglers.

>>530819494
I don't even understand the criteria of what makes a game abandoned.

>>530810174
the game really needs no-fly zones, because of anomalies, or anti-air, or whatever really, to give us reasons to use bikes and buggies

>>530820993
A game or a base? The game is already abandoned. A base may not be intentionally abandoned, but if the fief console is not glowing blue, no shield protecting the base from the elements is present, and thus sandstorms will gradually wipe it away. This may be more prevelant for higher end bases now because of the ban waves for cheating that are ongoing. I have one candidate for looting that is in T6 but the fief console is located on the outside edge of the interior, adjacent to an exterior wall, so it may mean it gets destroyed before all the goodies in it are.

>25 minute round trip from base in Hagga to E-sector base in DD
>have to haul 20k volume worth of shit back to Hagga
>assault ornithopter can only store 1.5k
>pockets can only store 0.1k
>build carryall thopter
>no inventory

You know, I don't think I actually need this shit. It was a fun game. I'll check it out again in a year or so, see what's changed.

>>530822035
the DD is not designed for solo. Hauling shit back into Hagga is desgined as a group (guild) activity. Its amazing how many solos are refusing to accept this core design principle of the DD and are beating themselves to death over it. None of the stuff in the DD makes your life in Hagga better to the extent the grind for it requires.

>>530822035
You're supposed to have a guild help out with bringing items back to hagga to make fewer trips. Plus you only need enough resources out there to make a medium chemical refinery and a medium ore refinery to make plastic, an advanced deathstill and a blood purifier for water, and like 2 large wind turbines to power your shitshack refinery. that's not alot of actual weight.

>>530822570
>>530822739
>play in a (large) guild
to then do what exactly

is there only 1 poi that has atreides mobs in haga basin?

So yesterday was the 30 day mark. How would (You) rate the state of the game?

>>530823724
Gather resources in bulk because you have a carrier thopter and 4 guildies in rocket scouts to protect it so you can divy up the loot and kit everyone in full t6 gear and deny access to other players untill they wish you cancer in global chat.

>>530825487
>Gather resources in bulk
wow
>because you have a carrier thopter
WHOA
>full t6 gear and deny access to other players
pls i might drop dead of fucking excitement of gear checking people i already outnumber

well anyway that sounds like dogshit, gl

>>530824891
nobody in my 20 odd friend group plays, 0/10 for me

I'm approaching the end of T5 and my quests and I dread going into the doodoo desert

The I-5 ship is always empty, probably have to make use of my asian timezone and wake up early when there's nobody around.

>>530826197
Just don't fall for the proooooogress meme and the game will provide you with gameplay for quite some time.

>>530827546
what other gameplay is there but grinding the next tier of materials and spice after all the quests are over

>>530828124
Build a cool community with friends somewhere.

>>530824891
I've completed all the quests except a couple capstones. I've done a bit of the dogshit pve dd. The endgame was like Warframe's first year: dindu sprint and speedrun to collect resources, whether that's mining or POIs. I have full 5.5 and a t6 weapon. I log on now to update orders on exchange, check every now and then for rotting bases and run the occasional POI. The sand zones seem horrifically buggy, hagga or DD, so I get my sand from POIs. There isn't anything to do. The game was 10/10 before ornithopters. It went to 3/10 once I got one and 1/10 once I completed all the quests. The transversal/movement in the game is the best I've ever seen. It's even better than New World's "see that? You can climb it. Anywhere" but gets entirely negated by ornithopters. The flight mechanics are cool, but sandbike and worrying about the wurm was so much more fun.

>>530829086
you could do this in a game that has actual structure and system to it though
dunc's endgame is too-literal sandbox 'make believe' where you have to genuinely imagine whatever you're doing has some sort of purpose to it because the developers forgot to (or in this case deliberately-neglected to) fill in the blanks

>>530766552
if you build a basic sub fief, the kind you used ot make the first base in the tutorial, like >>530767212 said, you are limited to 5x5x6 within the shield, but you dont have to pay taxes on it.

>>530825768
>well anyway that sounds like dogshit, gl
exactly. DD and T6 are interconnected, the only reason to be in the DD is T6 and the only thing that sustains T6 is the DD. The DD might as well be an entirely different game.

>>530406276
You can. I just found an empty base fully stacked with just about everything and tons of loot.

>>530831645
you can squeeze a half wall on top of all of it if you want absolutely the most you can get

i didn't even try that around the perimeter but you might get marginally more space using half blocks

>>530406276
>>530819494

>>530832403
i logged in and bumped their player count by 1 just to check and there are no half roof/floor tiles, disregard this actually

>>530833660
also, besides this, there is some good info on a reddit thread currently about this topic. Once the fief console is destroyed, the land is unclaimed, which means while everything is up for grabs, it apparently also means that the base and its content take a lot more damage from storms than it did when the fief console still existed even in its unpowered state. So you can monitor a decaying base for a couple of weeks, watching it slowly decay, and then a day later it almost completely gone the fief console finally died.

It feels like the only thing to do in the end game is either be a dick or move things back and forth.

>>530834073
is that sandstorm damage specifically or does base health just go down over time?
also if it is sandstorm damage, do things get damaged uniformly or does stuff like outer walls go first?
just asking for autism reasons

https://duneawakening.com/news/dune-awakening-player-survey/

have at it

>>530835573
>what I love
peacefully farming
>what I hate
Danger.

>>530835532
sandstorm damage only, I believe. Things get damaged based on their exposure to the storm and their durability, though by my personal observations, most machines are less durable than walls. Another example, I am monitoring an early T6 base that has two scouts and an assault parked between them in its open air hanger. Both the scouts are throughly destroyed, but the assault only shows a bit of wear. I also had an early t6 base that was decaying for a week, then finally the subfief console was destroyed but not before most of its machinery was destroyed (still got some good stuff from some chests), but by the next day only a single foundation remained.
If you want to make a base resistent to them, there are places in Hagga you can build a base where the entire base is encased in a shelter zone. The build your console on the ground surrounded by foundations and the rest of your base.

>>530835573
>This information, when contrasted with in-game telemetry and online sentiment, will help us make more informed decisions about future changes.

All the happy pve players makes me wish we could actually group up and start hunting them.

>>530828124
Do all achievements, including the 500 kills for each faction, build an awesome base and two tax free sub fiefs, semi-RP expeditions from these bases (e.g. leave the thopter at home for once), use the stilltent to wait out sandstorms, try different builds, explore the deep desert for the vibes instead of the resources...

>picking every answer in the survey that focuses on PvE
Total PvP shitter death

Joel should really watch this talk by the current game director of WoW. He says it took him and the team like a decade to finally realize that when it comes to live service games, your vision doesn't matter once the game has its audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f223_Km7qc

>>530841496
>WoW director
Why the fuck would anyone listen to these retards, they're constantly tanking the retail version of their game and have resorted to repeatedly re-releasing the older version of WoW to stay relevant because their new content can't satisfy anyone. If anything Joel should look at Blizzard as a cautionary tale of what NOT to do.

>>530822570
>>530822739
nah, that's a retarded excuse for lazy and stupid design. You don't see eve online requiring the entire corp get up on sunday to each individually haul 1000m3 to move shit out of nullsec. You get one or two logistics guys with an actual transport that carries that shit, or you contract it out to a logistics guy

this shit? It's fucking stupid.

>>530841939
>tanking the retail version of their game
lol

>>530824891
I want a refund

>>530841496
Don't most people admit retail wow shit itself chasing some ultra conveience/sweatlord crowd?

>>530841496
I think that's wrong. The director's vision should matter, the problem is in this case the creative director was retarded.

>Log in
>exotic blood extractor is gone
>check my chests
>can't find it
>go out into the DD figuring it got eaten by the inventory bug
>have an extra compactor i don't remember making
>slurp up some sand with it and head back to hagga after a bit
>the compactor I had in my hotbar that I was actively using physically transforms into my missing exotic blood extractor, fully useable
I shouldn't be doing a load of spice before bed.

>>530842316
>ultra conveience/sweatlord crowd
What? That sounds like two entirely different things.

>>530842352
You should give it a watch

>>530842398
It's the devs who are doing spice.

>>530842260
>all the server communities are dead and they need phasing to keep zones populated
>t-t-trust me guys it's more popular than ever!!!!
WoW cultists are so fucking braindead it's embarrasing. Someone really should conduct a study on them one day

>>530843494
>Uhh here are my talking points from the shitshow was warlords of draenor and don't forget how bad shadowlands was!!!!! The game is still DEAD because I said it is, okay???????? TWO MORE WEEKS

>>530843882
Keep making graphs that start after the monumental decline post-wrath, it clearly makes you feel better about how dead that game is lmao

>>530844241
I don't think I ever claimed WoW is at an all time high bro. Keep repeating those same stale talking points though. The person I replied to said they keep "tanking" retail even though it's made a huge comeback starting with Dragonflight. Is it at 12m subs like it was at the peak of Wrath? Of course not. Is it dead? You're a fucking moron if you think so.

>>530844998
>stale talking points
Kinda rich coming from the guy who uses a fucking sloptuber's made up estimate chart as some kind of official source for subnumbers.

>>530845145
The numbers are estimates, but the trend lines are from Blizzard. Keep deflecting though.

>>530845285
Estimates based on blizzard's latest reports, which are all MAUs (not sub numbers, because they stopped reporting those after they nosedived). So there's no deflecting, just deconstructing your pathetic narrative. Fuck off back to /wowg/ if you want to shill that garbage.

>>530842668
You would think but the group that wants to run +15 keys and the ones who hate not being able to get their instantly overlap a lot.

The House Wydras swatch is a better House Atreides swatch than the House Atreides swatch.

>>530842137
>You don't see eve online requiring the entire corp get up on sunday to each individually haul 1000m3 to move shit out of nullsec.
that because Dune is constrained by its IP. And Eve is not. Until you get into this ships that actually go into space, a carryall is a big as it gets. And its consistent with the lore of the game, since Harko village sorta sucks because they have to depend on ornithopter shipments because they dont have a spaceport. Its not bad game design just because you dont like it. Its not supposed to be convienent.

>>530845556
My guy, I conceded the numbers listed and said to look at the trend lines, which are subscribers, not MAUs.

>>530842260
War within likely sold less than a million copies because they have not published any milestones.

>>530841496
>when it comes to live service games, your vision doesn't matter once the game has its audience.
its almost lke the fucking customer is always right, since they dont have to give you their money. Basic fucking business. Its why game devs suck in general.

when does DD reset exactly? if I want to be a turbo rat and be the first one to wall off tit/starv nodes

>>530845963
Do we really need to go through the back and forth about this? The sub trend is going up because they released classic, which also requires a sub. Using that as an excuse to say "Look retail is more healthy than ever" is really dumb.

>>530766349
kill yourself you self righteous faggot

>>530846258
>classic
Classic does not have more players than retail thoughever.

>>530845998
The story of WoW is they abused a customer base that was trapped from sunk cost fallacy until they were not. Thats the entire AAA game industry, really. But once the spell wears off, there is now too much competition for a customers time to rely on their old psychological tricks. I automatically discount anything by a AAA developer in current year because I automatically know its going to be pointless slop.

>>530846209
https://www.planetologist.app/

look at the top of the screen, adjust the drop down according to your server location.

>>530846413
Oh really [current blizzard employee] privately told [blizzard content creator] that the game is doing better than ever? Well damn I guess that settles it, they'd have no reason to spin the narrative to suit their ends after all. Shame that despite being [more popular than ever] they just cannot seem to find a way to present that with any actual data. I wonder why, maybe because misrepresenting this with data is actionable and the shareholders would hold them accountable. Surely not that. Surely it's all true, we should take their word for it.

>>530786896
It's not even hard to do this with the way you can just copy a blueprint of your base and plop it back down after the weekly reset.

I thought it would've been cool to have an extravagant ERP den of whores in the DD somewhere. Still on the fence about setting that up on my server somehow.

>the people screeching 'doomtranny' are wow spergs
i KNEW i had read 'you don't play the game' and 'stop dooming' somewhere before

wow it was the EXACT SAME shit there what the fuck. these spergs are the ones saying 'post tier 6'. no fucking wonder they like the literal nothing at the end of this shitshow.

The colours match perfectly what were they thinking?

>>530847027
Every single point I've replied to in this thread has also been "I made it the fuck up," do you not see that? The difference being I actually play the game and can tell you from my experience, it has not been constantly tanking in terms of people playing nor qualify of gameplay. It's been consistent good changes since they finally realized how much the game had been ruined from SL and before.

>>530847554
>I actually play the game
Oh don't worry no one ever doubted that.

Is there even a fucking purpose for this general to continue existing other than for salty faggots to bitch and complain about a dead game? You faggots realize there are other video games that exist that you can focus your time and attention on? Fucking move on. MOVE ON. Forget this piece of dogshit and just MOVE. ON. WITH. YOUR. LIFE.

>>530847256
still only a stillsuit swatch which is a bit of a waste

>>530846703
is this when servers go down or go up?

>>530847554
fuck off lmao

>>530847809
WDYM? I only ever wear a stillsuit.

>>530847743
>>530847901
I accept your concession that you have no idea what you're talking about and just repeat the same shit you heard 10 years ago.

>>530848184
stillsuits are pretty much only good for pve stuff. Really, you never have a time when you really need water like that.

>>530848256
Yes we know the go-to response by blizzard cultists is "I win because I said so". You don't need to justify your sunk cost fallacy any further.

>>530848184
I wish it was a regular armor swatch you can apply to all the different armor types, like the harko/atreides ones

>>530848256
hey freak if your game is doing so great why're you here defending it and not there or at least in the fucking general for it

>>530848389
Yeah but its immersive and press f to sippy is fun
>>530848454
When the landsraad changes do they not offer different rewards? I assumed they'd have a light and heavy one too

>>530848435
>sunk cost fallacy
I hadn't played the game for multiple years and came back for Dragonflight. I take multiple breaks per year when content winds down and come back to have fun with my guild with the new patches. It's perfectly fine if you don't like the game, but to say dumb shit like the game is dead and constantly tanking makes you a retarded faggot.

>>530848537
Why can't I do both? I'd been logged into WoW for a couple hours including right before I posted the link to Hazzikostas' talk. Hopped off to have a late lunch and catch up on some generals. Waiting for a friend to log in before heading onto Dune this weekend.

>>530849841
i'd pull out the parse information for you but they don't release that or player count either and you are, like most blizzdrones, a stand in for some marketing staff or whatever the fuck it is that drives someone to stand in defense of a faceless corporate entity.

there was no reason to think the playerbase would ever increase again, let alone due to dragonflop, let alone any title after. fuck off

>>530836446
You can already tell they don't have their heads screwed on right because they're asking people to choose between things that aren't mutually exclusive and stuff like "do you like first person or 3rd person more" are on there. Can you imagine them turning this into a first person shooter? Holyshit does it take an incredible amount of idiocy to even consider that for this game and setting.

>>530849841
>It's perfectly fine if you don't like the game, but to say dumb shit like the game is dead and constantly tanking makes you a retarded faggot.
No the one who's a retarded faggot is you. I just didn't want to bother wasting my time explaining my stance on it further because as we've already seen cultists like you aren't interested in hearing anything to the contrary of your make believe bullshit. Further confirmed by the fact that you use debunked and garbage 'charts' to support your case lmao. The fact is the game is less popular than ever, the world is completely dead outside the main city of the current expansion as well as SW and OG. Do you think I give a singular fuck about how many cucks like you raidlog or keep their sub running because they're incapable of resisting the FOMO of the trading post every month? They caved and started to bend over backwards to satisfy the 0.00001% of faggots who do m+ and world first raiding, because that's the ONLY optics the game ever gets these days. And in the process they killed off the casual playerbase and drove them elsewhere.

Very well, I accept both of your second concessions.

>>530850971
Good, now go accept daddy Blizzard's cock in your axewound and stop shitting up this thread.

>>530851191
All of this spergery because I said Joel should listen to a WoW dev on why his vision doesn't matter. The mere mention of WoW truly riles up you weirdly vehemently anti-Blizz cultists. I'm not going anywhere, because I still have fun playing Dune and will be here until that stops.

>>530851456
Yes you're right I am biased against them because I think Blizzard has done irreparable damage to the video game industry with their more recent game designs. Not to mention bastardised their flagship title with garbage like the p2w token and in-game cash shops.