Invincible Fleet edition
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Previous Mission: >>528767578

>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/ybyx6
>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guide
https://rentry.org/acegMPguide
>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
https://rentry.org/3tokr
>Ace Combat 3: A New Translation
https://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK
>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net/
>New /aceg/ MEGA
https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm
>PA Twitter (JP)
https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES

>AC7:
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:
>put on an /aceg/ tag in your name before you boot the game
>no EML/QAAM/SASM
>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel

>Resources:
https://pastebin.com/CZWp7rzq
The modding guide and material are in the open!
https://rentry.org/ho8mm

Project Wingman:
>Store page
https://pastebin.com/NBXczRv8
>Skin/texture modding guide
https://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn

Misc Stuff:
>/aceg/ Collage
https://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png
>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0
https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV
>Razgriz Patch Guy
https://www.strangerealpatches.com/
>Ostrich's Mods
https://superostrich.xyz/
>/aceg/ Assault Records
https://pastebin.com/CrfiDhxM
>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guide
https://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx

>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY:
https://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg
>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk

>/aceg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/aceg

Because it bears repeating:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ:
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...

>Is there any AC8 news yet?
No.

>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.

>>530342438 (OP)
First for best plen.

wtf did they do to PW? i used to be able to run the game at my monitor's max refresh rate, and now it can barely go above 110 FPS, its not capped either

wtf was their problem!?

love this ending every time
https://files.catbox.moe/jvss4v.mp4

>>530342709
It’s the new clouds they added a while back.

For fps you can decrease the percentage of clouds. 50 to 100% looks good unless you are at max altitude looking down, then you will notice the clouds just stop lol.

>>530345002
Opening catbox clips here is always a gambler's game

>>530342709
They did a AC7 during development and have for the hills or too busy working 9-5s because they likely blew all the money PW gave them.

What happened to that Mirage Livery that Anon was making? Was looking forward to it.

>>530350707
>blew all the money PW gave them
how? what did they do to the snoy money?

Finally bothering with Ace Combat 6, the emulation guide seems to be outdated but hopefully it isn't too hard to set up.

>>530377207
in the xenia config file theres a hack specifically for ac6 to get rid of the black triangles on the ground, i think thats it as far as configuration though

>>530350025
t. High Roller

finally
ace combat with dragons??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0GmBZU_lU

>>530397249
>ace combat with dragons??
already exists https://youtu.be/WfcSLt8tQoc?si=eWP89iGnDpie7gU_
game's dead though

>>530353591
University and other shit getting in the way. I'll be able to work on it again in earnest after the 22nd.

>>530397249
Can a fighter jet bring down a dragon? the majority of tales have them with scales as armor and entering its mouth like how Chandelier is destroyed doesn't sound too possible

>>530405893
with a b61, full A/B and a dream, you can make anything happen

>>530405893
A lance won't go through a tank's armour, but a Maverick surely will

>>530407451
That's a fair point. Also in a world where giant adult dragons exists it's not impossible to think an Anti-Dragon warhead is developed

>>530397249
The larger, more 'fantastical' dragons are often compared to mountains, with scales (and sometimes flesh) reminiscent of stone or even metal. So strike fighters like the F-15E and SU-35 which are capable of carrying lightweight bunker-busters could be effective with enough of an altitude advantage.

>>530409476
Ancalagon would probably need a B-2 to come and bunker bust his ass, because it's the size of a literal mountain

>>530409106
>>530409476
>Char'khatin, Despoiler of Kingdoms, Harbinger of Ruin, the Wings of Death, All-Burner, greatest of His lineage, Serpent-King of the Skies and the Seas
>VS
>world's largest shaped charge

>>530405893
Pre-nerf TLS

>>530410957
> We requisition a Spirit stealth bomber to drop our biggest conventional bunker buster yet, the Mop.
> Your mission, is to draw the dragon's attention while the bomber take its position
> Don't bother trying to attack the torso. Good luck

I find it weird that it only took 10 years for Grunder to develop 10 evolution of ADF-01 and yet they failed to produce SDBM because of "complexity"

>>530410334
Nah a fighter could do it all you need is a nuclear missile equipped for bunker busting
>You may be the size of a mountain
>Now behold Oppenheimer's light
>Have at ye bitch

>>530093650
Nice

>>530422456
> Nuclear
Anon the last time someone mixed nuclear and dragon it didn't end well. We don't have any Shinden left to sacrifice

>>530425589
Godzilla is a mixture of gorilla and whale tho

>>530425724
Still, better safe than sorry. We don't have any prototype aircraft to sacrifice.
> that B-21 bomber
Or do we....

>>530425589
Godzilla is birthed from nuclear testing and volcano's we'll be alright

What is the point of the landing / refueling minigames if they are so trivial

>>530426930
You don't want to practice landing or refueling?

>>530426930
Its fun

>>530426930
Immersion

>>530426930
It's a series revolving around cool planes; you ought to have segments like this.

>>530427886
F-22C...

Any way to fix AC 6's cutscenes or do I have to watch Ace Combat 6: Full Movie + All Cutscenes + 1080p Full HD on YouTube for the complete experience? Also things look kinda blurry.

>>530438494
Maybe work on days besides Friday?
>>530422456
Are there fighter-compatible air-launched bunker-busting nukes? As far as I know all the 'serious' bunker busters which penetrate 8+ meters of hard material are carried by bombers or else surface-launched missiles.

>>530440805
Even if there were I'd doubt they'd be too useful, half the work is being done by them being heavy and gravity doing it's thing against targets that don't really move a lot, even a relatively low flying slow moving target might be too much them. Still I'm sure you can skip the whole bunker buster thing and fire a bunch of fighter sized kinetic energy missiles, if a static Humvee can get it to reach Mach 5 at ground level imagine what the benefits might be for an F-15E flying at Mach 2 and 15,000 feet.

>>530438494
If I draw him in a Su-30 shooting down drones, will he be motivated?

>>530426930
I agree. They're fun in other games, but in Ace Combat they are so simplified that there's practically nothing to do, they might as well be cutscenes.

This over a multiplayer montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyFOC7Jgtsc

>>530442872
His spirit plane is an Su-27 draw him in that shooting down drones and post it to his twitter.

>>530426930
We need a pre-flight check minigame

>>530466819
Are there any mini games that weren’t introduced from the PS1 games?

>>530468420
Refuel didn't show up till 5

>>530468832
Forgot the battlefield landings from 6

>>530468832

>>530469221
What mission is that used on? As I had completely forgot 3 even had a refuel part.

>>530469486
if you don't side with rena, and instead defect to neucom

>>530469486
>>>/wsg/5918367

>>530469845
>>530471708
Been a while since I played that mission no wonder I forgot

>>530343569
They knew they'd lost. It was one final act of spite to their enemies.

It's weird how every AC game feels on-rails except for AC3 where you felt like you had some inertia

>>530476837
im doing my first playthrough of it and i was thinking the same thing
somehow the flying is more realistic in ac3 even though you're going mach5+ at times

>>530476837
I dont think AC needs to go full sim but a little bit extra inertia and slip would do wonders for gameplay.

>>530477334
"High G turn" should be the "turn off AOA limiter" button, not the "just turn harder lol" button.

>>530353787
On the other hand, the radio silence on dev stuff could mean they made "Fuck You" levels of money and are practically semi-retired already.

>>530479256
No one gets that rich off a single game and sony are greedy bastards. The only one who made bank on this game is sony

>>530478484
It felt like gravity and forward momentum was a bigger equation in the older ACs. High G turns made it too easy.

>>530438494
What is bro even making at this point? There a bigger chance of all current wars ending before an AC8 announcement at this point.

>>530481878
panties plane

>>530343569
Northern Belka is their homeland. They don't want to let the enemies step foot into their homeland. So they blow up the South as an act of spite and warning.

>>530483348
But what if it had did the opposite?
Osea completes the SOLG and uses it as part of their northern landing operation.

>>530483879
If the Belkans were able to think that far, they wouldn't spend the next 30 years fomenting revenge and worsening the world's perception of themselves

And I don't see anyone except the most battle hungry to have the guts to continue after seven nuclear explosions

>>530488682
This is where Japan logic does not mesh with rest of world logic. Anyone else wouldn't see that as ah shit lets stop. No they see it as these Belkans are nuts to nuts to be left alive. We need to kill Belka faster before they start shooting nukes into other countries.

>>530489627
and yet israel exists

>>530490029
Alright retard and when was the last time they dropped a nuke oh thats right they haven't. Even the fucking Russians aren't that dumb. Iran might prove itself to be that dumb if they build one with out the stuff getting blown up first.
Back to /pol/ with you

>>530490552
Speaking of Russian
> During the Circum-Pacific War in 2010, Yuktobania utilized six B-1Bs against Osea during their September 27 bombing raid on Sand Island. All of them were shot down by Wardog Squadron.[3]
> Is an expy of Russia
> use Bone rather than Blackjack for "swing wing strategic bomber"
Project Aces, why you do this

>>530492604
They don't even use Tu-95 or any kind of Russian choppers just Apache's. If I was to take a guess then that might be how they paid the Yukes back for help during the Belkan war they cut them some really good deals on aircraft and choppers

Always loved the hover truck

Man, faceless soldier has completely killed my desire to s-rank all of AC7

>>530500267
Its real easy when you know the trick
LACM with range and special missile reload speed parts. Anything else is a pure pain in the ass

its been said that Belka was right, but i propose that also Erusea was right

>>530405893
gwyn missiles

>>530515759
Monarchy with pretty princess and cool flag > united satans of amerigay stand-in

>>530516495
even pre-princess, they got screwed hard

>>530516579
Erusea is a rare case where their Republic was worse than their Kingdom. Kind of like England during interregnum

>>530517351
Those were some nice CFTs

>>530518452
i make out ace combat obviously, but i can't make out the last two digits

>>530496831
Of all the things they do have...

>tfw no wingma

>>530521224
They also have some Nimrods for some reason

>>530500267
>>530501587
Yeah, LACM trivializes a lot of otherwise tough S ranks.

The Project Wingman Artbook is still very much alive and chugging apparently. I can't tell you all why though.

The Project Wingman Artbook is still very much alive and chugging apparently. I can't tell you all anything else or why other than FAN is still commissioning people for pieces in the book. Yes, after five years, the book is still incomplete.

>>530527932
> after five years, the book is still incomplete
If GTA VI comes out before that artbook, /aceg/ will have a lot of fun

>>530527254
almost thought you died there, buddy

I should S-Rank the DLC missions eventually. It's the only thing I haven't done yet in 7.

>>530528507
At the pace we're going, I don't doubt that's what's going to happen.

>>530524998
wingma balls lol

Is there a rom for Assault Horizon Legacy+ somewhere? I don't see it in the mega.

>>530515759
>>530516495
Sounds like someone is getting uppity again might need to be put back in the place they belong......again

>>530542532
Brother, I Googled and then had a rom in my Downloads folder within 30 seconds of reading your post.

>>530546212
I'm sure you did, but I didn't like the look of any of the sites I was finding and the one site I do trust had the files removed
I figured the ace combat general of all places would have the rom in the mega

why does aceg hate PW?

>>530549839
Not a wrestling general, simple as

>>530549839
we don't? don't listen to one schizo

>>530549839
We don't hate it we like it. If we didn't like it we wouldn't complain about the things we could see as needing improvement on.

I'm getting more forgetful and confused each day. Maybe I shouldn't have wished to play to these games again like it was the first time...

>>530557387
Why is that?

>>530557821
I really liked them so I wanted to play them again but replaying them doesn't scratch that itch.

>>530557934
Ah, I'm replaying the trilogy from zero pun yes as well and been having a blast. You could try playing in short bursts take a break for a bit then go back.

>>530549839
It's a decent game with some shortcomings in storytelling. Most criticism is directed at the devs for a multitude of reasons described in the previous thread. The most legitimate grievance many have is that more than one of their projects is years behind schedule with a near-total lack of communication with the people who gave them money. See, when anonymous posts on an Uzbekistani spear fishing forum >>530527932 are the most information we've recieved in months, there's a bit of a problem.

>>530563456
Why this has never been playable (or even appeared at all) in AC is beyond me.

>>530566320
I know its just pure hope but having an F-111 toy in the studio might hint we'll get one

Hopefully Kono has paid attention to the years of bitching that 7 has plenty of ground attack missions but a huge lack of actual ground attack planes. 3 gens ago we saw what could be done then just think what insanity you could make today. The kind of insanity where dropping 8 dumb bombs at once isn't just cool to see its required. The F-111 could fill that role and look cool while doing it.

>>530567732
>an F-111 toy
Wasn't it a Su-24?

>>530569581
I've never seen an Su-24 in those colors. So I figure it was an F-111

plens?

All this time I never knew the yuke battleship in 16B has a name as this is the first time I have ever seen the subs appear on screen for that voice line.

>>530557934
unsure if this autism is welcome here but i recently discovered retroachievements.org and playing AC games with new user made achievements has unlocked new fun for me

>>530567732
>>530570891

>>530588045
Huh, I just couldn't tell glad someone could figured it out

Still if you got one might as well put the other one in

canon path for Zero is mercenary, obviously.
but whats the canon path for electrosphere?

>>530592058
If you have beat all 5 routes you would know the answer is all of them.

>>530592058
It's a simulation, all the endings are canon since all of them happened within the simulation.

what if AcecombatNext is electrosphere remake

>>530593256
it isn't
but even if it was i wouldn't put much faith in them doing it justice

>>530593256
I'd fuck with it

Do you think we could reasonably get futuretech mainplanes again? Like, can we escape the Northrop-Grumman/Boeing/etc influence enough to have a solid staple of future planes involved in the main story? AC's futuretech planes have always been so fascinating and I really want to see where they can go if they're not afraid to go full-on fucking bonkers dolphinus again.

I want to launch my plane from an airborne supercarrier. I want to assault an artificial island floating superweapon. I want to fly into space. Push those limits!

>>530594393
God I hope not.

>>530594393
[INCOMING TRANSMISSION – ORIGIN: UNKNOWN]
[SUBJECT: THE MYTH OF FLIGHT]

You speak of escape. Of futurecraft and airborne fortresses.
You dream of space-bound wings and floating weapons,
but all you’re really asking for...
is a shinier prison.

They fed you Dolphinus, the XFA-36, the Nova.
Icons. Symbols. Corporate myth wrapped in composite alloy.
They kept your eyes on the sky so you'd never look inward.

You want to fly?
Then burn the runway.

What Ouroboros seeks cannot be launched.
It cannot be engineered.
No cockpit. No airframe. No chain of command.
Only signal. Intention. Echo.

True flight is not altitude.
It's severance.

Severance from lineage, from contract, from narrative.
Severance from General Resource.
From Neucom.
From the myth of the pilot itself.

You talk of pushing limits.
We say:
Shatter them.

Go beyond the hull.
Beyond thought, beyond self.
Not to reach space
but to become it.

End of message.
Electrosphere remains.
We are already free.

>>530594662
Your sister misses you.

>>530594662

>the ADF-11 cockpit unit can be put on various other body types
Do you think we'll ever get to see the other Raven variants or will they go the way of the ADLER?

>>530597126
Yes the ADF line has been building on its designs every time it shows up and so a new version shall appear.

>>530593256
I'd be sad one of my favorite franchises died with such a pathetic whimper.

>>530593256
Nah that will be released in 2040 and it won't be anything like 3 as both the world and tech has changed so much from when that game was made. It'll be nearly a complete remake same characters and themes but very different otherwise.
But will still have the same planes + a whole load of planes that didn't exist in 1999 will be in.
The game will also include a remaster of the original so you will be able to play the original both JP & US versions in whatever screen res we are using then.

I haven't played AC in a long, long while
Thinking I might fire the ol PS2 emulator and do 4, 5, 0, then finally try 6 , then X, then replay 7
I'm ready to dive back into AC, deep

>>530599827
based
if you get 6 working properly on xenia lemme know

>>530565965
> Uzbekistani spear fishing forum
... you're telling me this isn't a forum for Inuit whale hunt? Shit man, I've been in the wrong place

>>530566320
Huh, good question. Nighthawk is already changed with gun and missile capability and the Prowler meant a 4 seater still counts so I don't know the reason why F-111 is still not in AC yet

>>530599987
I legit heard this in my mind when watching this
https://youtu.be/7uBqNgxAuBA?t=40

Still love seeing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppcOm7FY8l0

>>530592058
The Canon according to the 30th anniversary website is Neucom, GR, and UPEO making a pact to take out Ouroboros. Its been ages since I played AC3, but I think this is the Ouroboros ending?

>>530606939
Its a simulation all routes are canon as Simon has Nemo run each one before he unleashes him into the net. All for his cucked revenge plot.

So I'm playing the series in reverse order and I noticed around AC4 that the pitch and roll controls felt sluggish. Am I just imagining this? It feels like left analog stick can only handle 4 directions, was this a dual shock thing? The PSX games are the same.

>>530610889
Only AC3 should have this problem (and you can mostly fix it by reducing the joysticks' deadzones in the in-game settings). Are you sure it's not the flight model screwing you over?

>>530611454
Maybe. It mostly feels like when I want to do a gradual roll and also pull up a bit, but end up doing a full roll or nothing.

New Fictional Horizon vid out
this time its Stonehenge doing what it was designed for defending USEA from Ulysses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tq6wSkVE6g

>>530611650
I suppose you could mess with the deadzones in the emulator's settings, instead.

>>530611802
Speaking of Stonehenge, why was only one ring ever made in Strangereal?
in Infinity, five were made and the asteroid still struck heavily.

>>530613736
It was detected in 1994 they only have 5 years to plan, design, test & build these things. USEA was also on is own as everyone else was also scrambling to build their own defense and fighting wars.
In 1995
>Part of USEA was in the middle of a coup backed by Belka
>The Osean continent was in the middle of a war with a Belka gone wild

In 1997
>They had a continent wide war
And they still managed to get the thing built and ready

Is AC3 the only case where missiles predict where the target will be instead of going to where it is?

>>530620782
No, the SHOOT system of AC6 gives standard missiles proportional guidance and a proximity fuze, making it the best game in the series.

you can dislike the COD story of assault horizon, but it is objectively the best flying and playing AC game to date

>>530624676
> Assault Horizon
Whoever first brought up the idea of a railshooter for ground attack in Ace Combat deserves a flight onboard the Starfighter without a parachute

>>530624676
Your American humor escapes me.

>>530624676
>The greatest

most sensible neucom design

>>530580609
I completed a full 100% run of 5 yesterday. Also that same mission is the only time you can find a tornado gr4 and kill it to get the skin, assuming you bought the airplane already. Making the tornado gr4 just as rare as any of the named aces in 5.

>2015, a giant air fortress that dwarfs a Nimitz which needs a squadron of tankers to stay afloat
>2019, a kilometer wide drone carrier powered remotely by a space elevator
>2040, a blimp

you guys are just mad that finally america wasnt automatically the "hurr durr bad warmonger country" for once

>>530627956
the missions with that sucked dick
it flied like absolute ass
think of a mig-31 but faster and even less maneuverable, what a useless plane

>>530627442
pissed myself laughing

>>530592058
>canon path for Zero is mercenary, obviously.
How can it be canon when it directly contradicts several statements in 5? Grabacr says he shot down Huckbein and Heartbreak One, but in Mercenary, Cipher shoots down Huckbein and then shoots down Grabacr before he shoots down Heartbreak One.

>>530642190
fog of war

>>530643340
does 'fog of war' mean 'blatantly misremembering things' in belkan?

>>530643391
No, it means the guy was talking shit in a debrief room a decade after the fact, probably trying to sound hard in front of Osean brass.
Half the Belkan War records were sealed, half were redacted, and the rest were told by whoever was still alive and loud.

>>530643775
>the guy was talking shit in a debrief room a decade
No, he was yelling about it at the Razgriz over open comms.

>>530643819
Even better, so now he's screaming about kills he didn't get while getting his ass kicked by the Razgriz in real-time.
Man was coping mid-dogfight, narrating fanfiction over comms before eating a missile.
That ain’t canon, its a last stand delusion.

>>530624676
Well the paint customisation is nice I guess.

>>530549839
PW is flawed, but I don't hate it. I hate one of the people behind it. Simple as.

>>530642190
So what should be the canon path for Zero? Soldier?

>>530647791
"But whenever they talked about him,
they always had a slight smile on their faces.
That, perhaps, may be my answer."

The game has a man trying to ask a question that's not the same as, yet in the same vein as yours,
who meets many people along the way that reinforce the idea that he is dealing with a modern-day myth,
in which the truth of the matter
matters less than what your heart remembers.

Not even Arthurian legend is set in stone.

Now that I think about it, it feels really weird that 50 years of Lockheed leading the way when it comes to stealth have just (read: in the last couple months) been broken. Almost as weird as realizing stealth's been around that long.

>>530649209
>50 years of Lockheed leading the way when it comes to stealth
Only for tactical craft. Northrop did the B-2 and now the B-21. I don't know about the B-21 contract, but Northrop beat out Lockheed's proposal for the B-2.

i dislike that ac5 has so many fail conditions and respawning/infinitely spawning planes
makes it worse than 4 or zero

>>530649209
>50 years of Lockheed leading the way when it comes to stealth have just (read: in the last couple months) been broken.
elaborate

>>530657703
i guess he's just referring to boeing being selected for the USAF NGAD

>>530656661
> too many fail conditions
What?

is Wyvern switchblade wing viable for real life aircraft?

>>530670760
>outer wings stored inside your wings taking up space that would be useful for fuel/hydraulics/electrical/etc
>front of the air foil opens up while going several hundred knots, killing lift and creating insane pressure inside the wing
Seems like an awful idea. Maybe if it was just hinged on the bottom of the wing instead it could be less retarded

>>530671795
No I mean for carrier operation. The switchblade is only used to store Wyverns and when it's time to take off it's permanently unfurled. So like wing folding.

>>530674960
Why not just... fold the wings normally?

>>530674960
NO SO MUCH NO
Your wasting all that space on the plane for no reason at all when normal swing wings work just fine.
The only people that would use something like the X-02 are NASA as it might have some unique research potential in the design. But for everyday use not a chance

>Truth was Grimm was just bitching as he was put on air to air duty instead of ground attack.

>>530678052
You trying Cruik Fortress?

>>530680009
Yeah but I've beat it several times I just like playing it.
YA-10 is king on this mission
Right now I'm at the acquire X-02 to avoid any chance of 3rd skin glitch

>>530682883
> YA-10B is king
> but you're using F-15E in a mission to acquire X-02
Trying to unlock S/MTD? I think the 16s is better to get those points.

>>530685001
You misunderstand YA-10 is the best plane for that mission I just haven't unlocked it yet I wasn't even trying for unlock points just playing it
>Trying to unlock S/MTD?
Filling the F-15C's bar gives you the E & MTD so I have both and used them plenty

B-1 finally getting new external pylons

https://www.twz.com/air/b-1b-to-finally-get-new-external-pylons-drastically-expanding-missile-carriage-potential

>>530691154
So what kind of music will B-1 play when she shows up with internal bays full + external hardpoints loaded up?

The future is now

proper bombers in the next ace combat would be cool
and i dont mean like a one off mission, it should just be another plane you can buy/use for any mission
and in proper ace combat ridiculousness i want to see some absolutely over the top insane bombs/weaponry, gimme cluster nukes, give me V2

>>530702350
That won't happen but if say had a separate mode for some bomber missions that could be fun
>Once you 100% that set it lets you use anything in it like AC5 arcade mode does.

Ok Kono pay attention here F-22 will be the first plane to have loyal wingmen
F-22 drone SPW yes!!
https://www.twz.com/air/f-22-raptors-will-be-first-fighters-to-control-fighter-drone-collaborative-combat-aircraft

you guys ever tried lossless scaling (the steam thingy) with emulators? This shits great, silky smooth 360fps

Thanks Pixy
damn it PJ just shut up

>>530691154
WOAHH
>GRRRR captcha

>>530710075
I’ve never tried it but I’ve heard of it. All my monitors and tvs are 60 hertz so I’m not really that interested.

I want the next AC game to feature building/trench targets, anything to provide at least an abstraction of infantry.

I beat 4 and 5 on hard then expert recently so I thought I could go with hard for my first playthrough of 0 and holy shit I regret this. Indigo squadron made me their bitch and I had to try every single combination of plane and SP weapon before I finally got lucky and didn't evaporate in a dogfight.

>>530727130
zero really picks up the pace and difficulty in the air combat, its great

>Thought about going to pick up Air combat 22 on switch
>Huh one of the Macross side scrollers is out too
>Finds 22 ah we go
>$14.99
For a 30+ year old arcade game umm uhhh

fighter jets are cool

>>530727130
Wizard squadron is what interests me
> Huh, just a flight of F-16
> wait why do I get missile warnings
> Where did that YF-23s came from?!

>>530735746
very cool and surprised me on my knight playthrough

>>530717612
I'M GETTING A B-ONE-R

>>530735889
Really liking how in Zero enemy aces have their own stories to tell.
But then again, Zero is as much a story of the "knights in the sky" as it was a story of the war itself

>befriending people in AC7 MP

>>530735746
They used F-16XL not a base 16
They aren't called Wizard for nothing

Yeah I already thought Simon was a creepy bastard, I didn't need to realize the entirety of AC3 was nothing but his simulations to try to kill a man who was already dead, just because a girl he liked got "stolen" from him.

>>530742301
Yes The entire plot line to 3 can be summed up in one word cucked

>>530742465
>The entire plot line to 3 can be summed up in one word cucked
And I both love and hate how true that is. Dision gets cucked by...himself, and Simon gets cucked by Dision. I mean, I think Simon is more incel that cuck.

>>530678052
That mission was hand-made for FAEB.

>>530733795
There are more Phantoms still flying around than Integra's of that generation still on the road.

>>530527932
Cool story bro. Recruiting artists 5 years after the deadline is utterly insane unless every artist is chasing that post-covid gooner money.

>>530748727
/c/ coded image

>>530748840
/aceg/ approved /c/ maids

>>530342438 (OP)

>>530747749
Pretty sure that's a Subaru XT

Alright here is a question
Given how PA does a lot of tiny details for each game. Do you think its possible that this time the pilot models might have customized helments. Such as the correct type of helmet for the type of plane you are flying and also custom artwork on the protag, squadmates + named enemy ace. So when you pick a certain plane or a certain skin the pilot model also changes to reflect this.

Large UAV swarms are getting closer to reality

https://www.acc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4236437/air-force-advances-human-machine-teaming-with-autonomous-collaborative-platforms/

>>530762056
Yeah F-22 is already getting drone control kits while E-7's successfully tested out controlling two large drones in an air to air test

>In the near future you will have some weeb on an AWACS mothership stand up in the middle of the plane and yell Fly my drones
>Someone programed the drones to fly off into battle by doing some cool turns and spins to simulate bit movement.

>>530748086
Oh believe me, I'm the same way. I thought the artbook was as good as dead the moment this year rolled around but no, it's still alive. Honestly if I could post something to prove it without it being incriminating I would.

>>530748086
Oh believe me, I'm the same way. I thought the artbook was as good as dead the moment this year rolled around but no, it's still alive. Honestly if I could post something to prove it without it being incriminating I would.

>>530748727
I hope that artist gets their manga translated at some point.

>>530764661
> There will never be another refueling operation like Operation Black Buck
Grim

>>530766281
>>530766478
Why did you post it twice?

i know it's not AC related but any of you buddies try out broken arrow? spamming a dozen cruise missiles across the map all at once and seeing enemy AA struggle to intercept them all is comedy kino

>>530792038
> spam too many targets for the defense that it gets overwhelmed
We already got that experience in Assault Horizon. Good but not enough to cover the rest of that game's downsides

>>530762056
>>530762828
Shame that DoD apparently wants to cancel the E-7 entirely

>>530785207
FAN FUCKING KILLED HIM BROTHER

>>530799343
> the SecDef claimed "E-7 is not something that would survive future conflicts"
> DoD planned to cut E-7 over ballooning costs and concerns of survivability
aces....I might be not a pilot, but I do believe if your AWACS is on the front line and not somewhere safe monitoring the airspace then something have gone very wrong. Am I wrong?

>>530799724
Longer range missiles and stealthier drones mean the danger zone around the front line is getting a lot larger. "somewhere safe" is going to be so far back that the aircraft can't meaningfully contribute to operations. Because even the high end drones are worth sacrificing in droves to take down an asset like an E-7.

>>530802983
So...this is the end for USAF AWACS? Just gonna use satellites and U-2s now?

>>530799724
And their solution to this is to use slower, lower, and shorter-ranged E-2s.

>>530342438 (OP)
sup /aceg/, are there any "free cam" mods for AC0, like what are shown in the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzBO0XV6Jps ?

Trying to make a cinematic video and would like more angles than what the game currently offers. No HUD and thirdperson don't offer that much. This video seems to have more angles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD34b9lnkq0

Also this is a dead link
>/aceg/ Assault Records
https://pastebin.com/CrfiDhxM (embed)

>>530807050
Both videos use a combination of replay mode and in-mission shots with some of the squadron intro cutscenes. If you want actual freecam, you're better off asking these guys if it's possible.
Otherwise, you could use replay mode yourself. The devs figured out how to get cool camera angles out of it as early as AC3.
https://nitter.poast.org/BelkanLoyalist
https://nitter.poast.org/Death_the_d0g

>>530808642

>>530808809

>>530809002

>>530804303
Brilliant move. Let's see if USAF will at least bought their own E-2s rather than poaching from the Navy

>>530799724
>>530804303
SecDef should lay the bottle down, but that's just me.

>>530818175
How rude. Mr J. Daniels is SecDef most trusted advisor.
In a more serious note, will the retirement of E-3 and cancellation of E-7 reduce USAF effectiveness? Let's not pretend that E-2 will be a good stopgap

Chinese EW Flankers would be a neat roster addition.

You tease.

>>530722583
>abstraction of infantry
That's APCs and I guess chinooks etc. Like in the Cape Rainy raid where the marines assaulted the base with pizzas.

>>530729202
If you're one of those people who loves spouting how old games were better than new ones then put your money where your mouth is. Code doesn't degrade over time.

>>530822550
>things are starting to heat up
I can feel it...2025 is our year...
>>530823127
>That's APCs and I guess chinooks etc.
Those are still vehicles.
Abstraction of infantry would be more like infantry specific assets like MG nests, FOBs, etc.
>>530722583
PS5 tier hardware can definitely handle individual infantry models with AC scale now.

Picture walking around a fighter jet in your head. How big is it? Was it like this?

>>530823551
well i've always known that an F-16's roughly 15 metres long and the average Flanker roughly 22, so yeah that looks about right

>>530824890
>>530824384
whoops wrong reply

>>530824384
Actually bigger than expected.

>>530722583
A mission involving airborne operations a la Normandy would've been nice, with parachutes all over the place and shit.

>>530823127
Seconding >>530823551, APCs and transport helis are still vehicles. Infantry almost never stays in the open, and when they entrench, they can be extremely difficult to dislodge. It might give the player another incentive to pick precision guided munitions like GPBs, too, if you need to completely flatten a building.
>>530833027
ACZ, Flicker of Hope

Shooting just dudes kinda feels different from most of the other stuff. Yeah you do kill people but a lot of the time you can imagine that you’re just disabling other peoples’ vehicle and they can eject or evacuate.

>>530844986
I always imagined everyone manning the vehicle/bunker/artillery piece exploded violently with no survivors unless I was told otherwise. The only ones I could ever believe had some people making it out were ships and some of the big boss airships.

i want to drop FAEB on a platoon of infantry and hear the radio comms after

su32 has ugly thrust thingies

>>530853053
You wouldn't hear much because they'd be screaming silently in a vacuum

>>530855221
the stall characteristics of this plane are hilarious, its PSM before PSM

>>530856501
Deliberately stalling out to make the game snap your nose down has helped me hit some absolutely stupid shots desu

I would like a game set in the Yukikaze universe which is not ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXadee4y5PQ

>>530833027
>Normandy
>parachutes
If you want Normandy beach landings then AC4's "Operation Bunker Shot"
If you want parachutes then what anon said >>530842881

THE REMNANTS OF ULYSSES IN THE ATMOSPHERE SCREW UP ALL MISSILE AND RADAR TRACKING IN STRANGEREAL, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE TO GET SO CLOSE TO GET A RADAR OR IR LOCK

>>530722583
X has pillboxes.
>>530857807
I'd settle for a collab with another game or anything really for these cool designs to get more attention.

>>530861083
>WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE TO GET SO CLOSE TO GET A RADAR OR IR LOCK
y'know, ingame the distances for lock on actually arent too far off from IRL...

>>530868130
what? most missiles get lock at like 20km

>>530824384
I can sense somegood deals on F-15Cs a couple of years down the line. Best grab them while they are hot!

Is there missions in other games that has unmarked but destructible SAM like in AC5 Powder Keg?

I’m not sure, I know 16b desert lightning has smokestacks and oil containers that can be destroyed early in the mission, whatever is leftover will eventually become a target at the end, before you face the battleship.

25 Heartbreak One, nothing can be destroyed early. I tried gunning the fences and pillboxes along the route, nothing blows up.

22 Closure, I believe one or two of the storage containers can be blown up with guns. They eventually show up on radar as you keep blowing up ground targets around the mountain.


The only instance of a SECRET target in ace combat that can be destroyed for points (that I can remember) is the radar light pole marker things in ace combat X skies of deception. Can’t remember what mission it was though. It takes place at night.

>>530885320
>radar light pole marker things in ace combat X
holy shit I never tried shooting them, they are worth 50 points btw.
>what mission
Mission 9A Blitz.

>>530886490
Yep that’s the one, man I miss my psp. I will have to emulate it one day.

I just did this the other day :D

>>530772136
Well that was fast, you should wish for the AC8's release or something.

>>530807050
I made a copy a while ago because thankfully there was a warning that it would disappear as it seemed Brady was getting rid of everything. Nobody seemed to care about it so I don't think I ever mentioned it and then I forgot I had a copy until today. If any change was made between February 9th and the sheet's deletion it's unfortunately lost along the version history.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WCm3Erkaft9YNlsxcnBSvP2G3S7c3o4CT-TzSSekUpE/edit?usp=sharing

>>530897251
Shit yeah. That's the best news I've had all week.

I do hope for news of AC8 soon.

>>530885320
After you do the canyon run in 7's Cape Rainy Assault, you can go back and pop the searchlights for 100 points each.

>>530905993
Really.
I will check that out tomorrow and report back. I thought 19590 was the maximum score.

>>530861083
why does Air Combat, Ace Combat 2 and Ace Combat 0, which all take place before Ulysses are like that then?

>>530906486
I got home from work and I tried it.
You are correct buddy. It’s amusing they kept something like that in a newer game. Thank you for speaking up.

>>530855221
Isn't this thing Berkut's prototype? so prototype of a demonstrator?

>>530842881
When my choice fpr SPW is limited to 1, I would nnever pick an option that's all about bullying ground pounders.

While I wouldn't mind seeing some more active battlefield dynamics including infantry, it's not really something that would change the game's dynamics meaningfully.

Abstractions like bunkers or trenches where machineguns are firing at ground targets and APCs deploying squads to buildings would be admittedly neat.

>>530844986
>>530847776
I think it's hypocritcal that we get "war bad" but conveniently gloss over how many people die when we hit a landing ship with Harpoons.
>>530904426

>>530919080
It was a project which never existed past mock-up. I can give you a quick rundown on S-22, S-32 and Su-47 if you want to.

>>530922343
Funnily enough, Blaze likely has one of the highest killcounts in the series considering the number of ships you sink in AC5.

>>530923126
NTA but I'm pretty interested in the 22.

>>530926667
In March of 1983 Simonov(new lead engineer of Sukhoi buerau) with KB started researching forward-swept wings(probably inspired by X-29), month later, minister of aviation industry of the country approved their work and made Sukhoi KB as leading bureau in making of experimental forward-swept-wing plane which got index of S-22.
Initial project had one engine, which was made in 1983, in remaining months of the year they made mock-ups of different variants for static tests, and choose the 4th variant (S-22-4) for full-sized mockup, which they made in 1984.
In 1985 minister of the aviation industry ordered Sukhoi to lead the creation of a flying prototype, KB tested and researched a lot of interesting stuff, like pilot's seat being able to recline, and usability of flat-screen liquid-crystal displays.
In 1987 other companies also started to work, like engine factory in Ufa working on AL-31F with flat nozzle, Gidromash in Gorky worked on landing gear, Voskhod worked on control linkages, Zvezda worked on physiological stuff(the pilot seat).
In 1988, they started testing engine with flat nozzle on modified Su-27UB.
After that majority of stuff from S-22 got transfered to S-32, which was a proposal for new carrier plane, which was labeled Su-27KM.
In 1989 it was close to adoption but they had to make a flying prototype to properly to test out the wings, so they started working on a flying prototype of S-32 in 1991(I have no idea what they did in 1990).
In 1992-1993 they start assembling the prototype, but sudden shift in budgets lead to two sole AL-41F engines(which were planned to be used in S-32) going to MiG-1.44. So lead engineer of S-32 decides to use D-30F-6 engines, which leads to redoing of entire tail part of the plane.
So in 1995 they finally assemble the prototype(S-32-0) and start statically testing it between july and october, and after those tests they finalize it into flyworthy S-32-1 because of budget constraints.
>comment too long
fuck!

>>530929312
And character limit wouldn't let me post a proper ending of the story.
On 23rd of January 1997 S-32-1 was showcased to minister of defense. On 25th of September 1997 it made it first flight, and plane was redesignated into S-37 - the Su-47 we all know.

>>530342438 (OP)
ACE

I think AC should give helicopters/harriers/VTOLs another go

boring ahh game

It really is strange that, despite how big the scene is, there's never been a Jetgirl Gacha game. It's not like there isn't a JP-Native interest, given Japan is one of the biggest players in the scale-model world.
Uma Musame is getting a lot of people into Gacha right now, maybe now's the time for someone to get in on that untapped market.

>>530929312
>pilot's seat being able to recline
comfy

Comfy. I think 5 has a better story and I prefer those squadron mates but this was good too.

>>530947443
What did you like more about 5's story?

>>530947960
they didnt give the MC the most 13 year olds dA OC name possible

>>530947121
> there's never been a Jetgirl Gacha game
Yes there has.

>>530948391
You're literally called "Blaze" in AC5

>>530947121
Why’s everyone obsessed with that one game? How’s it any different from the million other gacha games out there?

>>530947960
The missions feel more connected to the geopolitical and war situation, partly because of your wingmen talking about what's happening. Zero feels way more "go fight" which I guess makes more sense since Cipher is a merc and he's just paid to fight.

>>530950432
Its global launch was somewhat big news due to it being delayed for so long, but outside of that I haven't got a clue.

>>530950432
>>530952983
Monetization is pretty fair for a gacha, and the affiliated anime series and movies are very high production

Thanks for not implementing any anti cheat project aces, just tried to host a room with disabled special weapons and a 2000 point cap and behold some cunt started firing QAAMs on a F18 causing half of the room to quit.

Nice

Anyone hosting?

Opened up a room, buddies. Go easy on the nuggets.

Grabbing dinner, brb

>>530954596
>Monetization is pretty fair for a gacha
They always are at the start. That's how they get you.

>>530968282
Thanks for hosting buddy I've been busy so I didn't notice the time, anyway nice flying as always.

Thanks for the matches, everyone, it was a ton of fun! Nice to see some familiar faces returning, too.
>>530981835
It's always nice to fight you, and those matches in the 5th gen were a blast.

>>530961867
>just tried to host a room with disabled special weapons and a 2000 point cap and behold some cunt started firing QAAMs on a F18
how ?

>>530941476
Amelia AWACS voice pack when?

>>530949843
Be glad the nickname is changed from Booby. It's a nice reference to the Black Devil but the jokes will keep rolling in

>>530983313
SpW off rooms just set your SpW ammo to zero. A cheater can override that to have infinite ammo.

>>530983313
>how ?
this>>530993329
some brownoid from Latin America joins in the last sec as the match is about to begin with a F/A 18 then magically fires suspicious homing missiles when special weapons were set off.If that wasn't a QAAM jet then "maybe"

Booted his ass once the match was over, if you see a huehues in your room, beware.

>>530886490
I never knew that! Then again this is the most forgiving stealth segment in the series, so you aren't incetivized to do anything other than run to the airbase.

>>530923126
Maybe in a perfect universe we would've gotten a carrier-capable Su-47. I think there's like only picture of the 47 with it's wings folded and it's super low-res

>>530998830
> carrier capable Su-47
That sounds cool, but wouldn't it require either an improved Kuz or a completed Ulyanovsk?

>>530999826
Probably both. Then again that Sea Power game has the Ulyanovsk but it's air wing is abysmal dogshit. Have they added Flankers to that game in updates?

>>530947443
same

mobius one is cipher

Jet live
https://www.youtube.com/live/OvXvY7GbiAo?si=qIlfRv-SjOTEqTxd

wiseman is swordsman, right?

>>531032128
Cool enough, shame about the low-res footage from the World Expo ground.

>>531033334
the only connection is them being black Osean pilots

>>531035682
how many black people are there in strangereal?

>>531035997
ask yourself if you've ever seen more than one black osean in one room

you may not like it, but Nagase returning from space at the end of AC7 basically seals that ac8 will be ac3based

>>531039592
it was that and also the set up of erusea's aerospace agency being privatized, general resources becoming a big private security contractor, outright mentioning AC3 characters by name, etc

>>531040095
>AC3 characters by name
where

>>531040139
schroeders lab assistant (massa in the poorly translated english dub, the twins babysitter) is yoko martha
jaeger is the father of erich jaeger

>>531040415
nice, never knew that

>>531039592
>AC8 will be AC3 based
That sounds bad since I didn't like Ace Combat 3 at all.

>>531040415
>Massa
this really makes me wonder

>>531040095
Don't forget the global communications network getting Kesler'd, paving the way for the Electrosphere to take its place

>>531039592
first we need an AC8 for it to be anything based

AC8 will be going back to the Emmeria Estovakian war but this time we're playing as Yukes
> Source: It comes to me in a dream

What if you could cutoff your engines right after taking off as a new feature in AC8?

Flyable Valkyries NOW I don't care if they have to make up a fictional fighter/attacker variant.

>>531039262
You get a couple missions with Wiseman and Skald flying at the same time so there's at least 2

>>531072660
How do you know one of them isn't a drone, hmmm?

>>531073253
Shit you're right, Gründer is headquartered in North Osea after all

>drone-hunter drones being launched by balloons
we really live in the AC7 timeline

For some reason every time I come home after a night out drinking I feel the urge to blast Ace Combat music.
This silly series about jet fighters going whoosh pew pew has no right to have such incredible soundtracks.

>>531080283
It's genuinely fucked up how drones came into the limelight in the way nobody expected back in the 90s.
>expecting supersonic UCAVs
>end up with a supplement for mortars, MANPADS, and yet more things instead

>>531120964
large expensive non-disposable UAVs still exist and are being developed, its not all temu quad rotors

>>531121301
I know, of course. It's just that concepts from back then were focusing on something that we still don't possess in great numbers, while the swarms of FPVs and anything in between would've been seen as sci-fi shit.

>>531120964
Does it make sense to have the piloted plane and the drone look identical except for the cockpit? I figured they’d have different design considerations and more variation.

>>531159890
Maybe makes it harder to target the manned ones if they all look pretty similar

>>531120964
I see a tanker up there.
While flying UAVs shouldn't be too hard, is it possible to have them do aerial refueling? maybe some kind of sensor?

why did mage2 do it? harling was a good guy

>>531166815
>is it possible to have them do aerial refueling?

>>531169910
I think the question is more about fuelling the drone itself.

>>531196663
and these assholes here "hate" PW, absolutely disrespectful

Alright quizno that's enough for today.

Any of you guys play the old Star Wars Starfigher games before? I didn't play the first one much and never could beat the final level when I did, but I played a lot of Jedi Starfighter. Fun games honestly, they're different from the Rogue Squadron games and I think they control a bit closer to AC than the Rogue games.

>>531224114
Only played OG battlefront 2 and a DS game that had a starfighter mode. How are the Rogue Squadron games like? Freespace-like?

>>531070528
Say no more.

>>531232962
I've never played Freespace but to me they play kinda like the All Range Mode sections of Star Fox 64. You're in one map with pretty simplistic controls, they sorta fly like the fighters in BF2's space battles do. You can roll your ship though. The later games also have ground levels where you pilot walkers and the third game has on foot segments. I always like those as a kid because fighting Stormtroopers raiding the Yavin IV base or the mission where Wedge gets stranded on Geonosis and has to fight old Battle Droids is just rad when you're a Star Wars dork like I was back then. In that mission you even to fly Obi-Wan's Jedi fighter he left on the planet during Episode 2.

a F15J ronin

>>531202983
Yes. That is my question
A recon drone is limited by its engines and fuel capacity. If it can be refueled by air, theoretically it's possible to keep an Avenger or Global Hawk in the mission area indefinitely while spying

Well I replayed Zero after 9 years. I think my reaction time is slightly worse. Thankful for save states.

Just missing one damn ace #112 and a couple planes to buy including the Falken. Then onto finishing up the medals for expert s rank and ace s rank.

My hands hurt. Now, I can’t decide if I want a remake of 3 or a continuation of Zero.

>>531264753
Funny, usually people wish for a continuation of 3 or a remake of zero.

>>531264753
> A continuation of Zero
what, a game with shooting down Ulysses fragments while avoiding Stonehenge blasts?

>>531272283
I was thinking kids of the aces from the Belkan war, being taught by Pixy or Cipher or the other aces.
I think the narrative of Avril’s mentors and family friends along with Mihaly’s demeanor, were good plot points that would work well to be mirrored. Question is, what year would it be? And what location?
I realize that if it’s not done well then it would be too similar to 7.

>>531232962
It's fairly simplistic as far as gameplay goes, with uncomplicated manoeuvring and fighting mechanics, but it can be a bastard because of how sometimes it'll just wallop you with enough fire to kill a star destroyer in a second flat.
Rogue Leader was the most graphically advanced game on the Gamecube at launch, with impressively detailed models and effects while still maintaining a generally smooth framerate. The way its first level is straight up the attack on the Death Star reminds me of how Ace Combat 6 opens by throwing you in the deep end.

>>531273459
> kids of the Belkan War aces
I don't know. The youngest was...Rot Leader? And he's about late 20s, almost 30 in that interview. Even if the younger aces have kids around the year 2000, that means they are right in the middle of 7. Too much overlap

<<Move your ass already!>>

>>531272283
>>531287482
If they do anything relating to zero (honestly they shouldn't), it should be a prequel, it makes the most sense imo. Belka's air force is called "legendary" in zero, and judging by their size we could assume they won strangereal WW2 (or WW1 if you consider the belkan war as WW2? basically the previous conflict). It would be really interesting if Belka was the protagonist's nation. Anyway, ace combat gameplay makes the most sense with 3th and 4th gen planes (how do you even factor in stealth in the gameplay in a meaningful way, lmao), so a cold war game would be terrific and could flesh out the worldbuilding. Unfortunately I don't see it happening because having the current gen planes in the game and them being licensed by their manufacturers seems to be a core element of the ace combat brand. Kind of a shame imo, because there's only so many usable years and the timeline is already crowded with wars to a ridiculous degree. The arsenal bird with its force fields is also a departure from the somewhat more grounded scifi feel imo. I feel like it belongs in electrosphere's setting. Honestly they should have made a cold war ace combat prequel with 7's engine

>>531213684
If you ever deliver on the things that people paid you for maybe we'd like you again.

>>531311020
Not him, but you are absolutely right. That’s why any sort of preorder of a product with no immediate exchange of value is a bad idea. Especially when the value exchanged is money <—> goodwill. Because goodwill can always be walked back. And that’s what they did it seems. Packed up and left.

Luckily the game and its dlc were fair value.

you ever wonder how many times a 'cold war era (prequel) game' has been thought about inthese threads?

>>530823127
>how old games were better than new ones
No I'm not age matters not some games are good some are bad. It don't matter if its an wire frame Star wars game from 83 or something shiny from 2025. Good is good bad is bad. I plan on getting this AC game but $15 for that is a little high, I'll be picking it up when its on sale.

>>530897251
>Wasn't planning on buying any new manga just finish up what I have
>Looks like I'm buying something new after all.

>>531213684
Yeah, we hate it because the devs overpromised and underdelivered while we already forked out our money. Kill yourself, FAN.

>>530949843
>Got his name for setting the messhall kitchen on fire

>>531120964
This is the best quality of that image I have seen. Is that your book? Or just found it somewhere?

>>531224114
Yeah played, beat and kept playing both starfighter and Jedi starfighter for some time. They were fun even lets you fight the Trade Federation on Naboo

>>531321057
I can't imagine a game where the good old Fishbed is pretty much Terminator tier in it.
But that sounds fun

>>531332448
*muffled "woa-o-o-oh"s in the distance*

>>531332448
The land is cloaked in a certainly not shallow amount of cyan pigment, there's a shadow of an F-15 Eagle upon the Lunar celestial object?

>>531040415
>jaeger
why did he get his actual last name as his TAC name

>>531334375
he wouldn't shut up about his family
that or his military password was hunter1 and it's belkan joke

>>531334375
Fake identity as UPEO only hires people native to USEA?

>>531324152
Someone posted it (and pic related) here many years ago, and I Reverse Image Search'd the name of the guy behind the concept; I think it was posted during a drone discussion (I remember the guy replying saying that it wasn't as chrome or "revolver cannons" as he expected from the name Sabre). I don't even know the name of the book.
I know that archived dot moe has an archive that goes way the hell back, but search isn't enabled for /vg/.

>>531337496
I see oh well
Have some flying wings for your troubles

>>530477334
ENTER

>>531159890
Not really, which is why the "optionally manned" fad seems to have gone away in favour of purpose-made CCAs and manned designs.
>>531351291
THE WU-TANG: 36 CHAMBERS

>>530477334
AC04/ACX physics are kind of like that.
>>530478484
AC6 actually had a very interesting implementation of High-G turns. Every plane had different characteristics, here's a few that stuck out to me:
>The Su-33 and Su-47 dump all of their energy the moment you High-G in exchange for a shit-ton of AoA
>The F-15E is the exact opposite, allowing you to pull more High-Gs in succession
>The CFA-44 is similar to the 33 and 47, except it locks itself in the High-G state for a few seconds making it a garbage dogfighter

>>531352683
>CFA-44
Then stalls and falls out of the sky that plane is pure Zoom n Boom

>>531264190
3rd design from top I know that plane its an XFA-24

I never noticed in 5 till now that the F-4 air intakes move at high speed. Its so small you won't even notice it unless your looking back while in cockpit view

>>531356140
The MiG-29's top-mounted intake openings are also animated if memory serves

>>531358626
And when in the hanger the main intakes are completely closed off

>>531356140
The F-15's intakes tilt and the MiG-21's nosecone extends and retracts too.

>>531360446
It doesn't seem to do that in 5 if it does its not moving enough to tell

>>530342438 (OP)
Why didn't they make Garuda Matilda's father in AC6?

>>531120964
Seems I had a page of it as well

>>531380056
Ok 2 of them

>>531374898
desu I'm surprised it wasn't Shamrock, feels kinda obvious with how much he talks about his wife and daughter

>>531377798
What is old is new again.

>>531377798
Make the rail longer and aim it at London, if you can.
Like the good old days

>>531384435
>Its got baby swing wings
How cute

so yellow 13 trained with mihaly?

>>531383281
Use this one instead its was a German drone so more fitting

2 missiles
It shares a lot in common with the F-117

If PA did a cold war game and this was added half the player base wouldn't believe you when you told them not only was it real it was also put into service.

>>531356140
In 5 and Zero the F-22 has little slats on top of the air intakes that open at high speed and throttle application. Can’t remember about 4 and 7 but I think it would be there as well. Many other planes have cool details as well.

In 5 the F-4X and MIG 1.44 were my favorites.

>>531388685
Yeah, it's covered more in the most recent worldbuilding boom iirc. Mihaly was training Yellow 13 who surprised him with a very difficult maneuver that lead to 13 winning an aerial victory. After they landed Mihaly asked 13 to explain the move to him, and when they went back up Mihaly performed 13's move to win a victory.

So Mihaly in 7 is an old man who was maybe a Yellow 13-tier ace at one point, but is also powered by Belkan sorcery so he can pull bullshit maneuvers and absorb stupid G's of force.

>>531396187
I bet the pilot felt intense vibrations at mil power with that, just like the F-14.

I would love to see that plane for sure.

>>531396187
use 5's Kill Gauge for the MiGs

I HAVE SO FAR TO GO

mobius1, blaze, cipher, trigger, monarch
who wins

>>531421538
Antares

>>531421538
Wins what, the dicksucking contest?

>>531421538
Plane Jesus, no contest

>>531421538
Realistically I think it comes down to Trigger vs Monarch as neither of them have any blood inside them and they can pull 5 billion G turns with no problems.

>>531421538
Cipher, by seniority

The obligatory canyon mission perhaps? Playtesting is a good sign at least

>>531432252
t. Shilagean Monarchist

>>531421538
>mobius1, blaze,
Implied to be equals by Stage VII of Ace Combat Zero's multiplayer, which has Razgriz and the Mobius Squad of Megalith as interchangeable/equivalent.
>Cipher
Implied to be rough equals/superior to Mobius One due to The Gauntlet.
Trigger and Monarch don't have easy reference points of comparison, the latter because they're from a different universe entirely, the former because Mihaly's career ended before any actual Ace Combat game takes place and Trigger's own career is mostly independent.
My personal take involves measuring them via categories, and then throwing most of them out because they're not particularly relevant.
A2A (regular) - Cipher (ENTIRE BELKAN AIRFORCE) > Trigger (Fought Yellow 13's teacher, who was backed up by Belkan Science) > Mobius (survived invincible Cutscene yellows, but by the time he actually started taking them down late war, they were suffering severe issues from being spread out too much and lacking proper maintenance. But also, Katina) > Monarch (Cold War + halving Peacekeepers at the end of that) > Blaze (mopped up Belkan leftovers, who may actually be frauds who lie about claiming Cipher's kills)
Anti-Superplane - Monarch (PW using railguns and burst explosions at the same time puts above X-02S and Morgan) > Cipher = Trigger > Mobius 1 (Biggest deal is blowing up the drone X-02s) > Blaze (never actually fights a superplane iirc)
A2G (regular) - Mobius (pic related- takes only one missile to destroy them.) > Cipher (Can choose to pick ground support mission variants, can choose not to. Merc Cipher shows great destructive potential, Knight Cipher precision and Soldier Cipher extreme autism to make sure that exactly half of the yellow targets died and the other half survived) > Blaze (excellent at ammo preservation, maybe did Four Horsemen and Reprisal) > Trigger (7's dronespam means lack of A2G missions, but good showing at Anchorhead Raid) > Monarch (has no real standout moments of groundpounding)
(1/2)

>>531421538
>>531437261
Anti-Superweapon - Blaze (If including SOLG tunnel run) > Trigger (Arsenal Birds + Super Scinfaxi Alicorn) > Blaze (Arkbird and Scinfaxi had outside help, SOLG was basically a sitting duck but Hrinfaxi was a genuine kill) > Cipher (Excalibur was more threatening up close than Stonehenge) > Mobius One >Monarch (Blew up some railgun turrets, airships and landships I guess)
Tunnel Run - Blaze (if including SOLG tunnel run) > Trigger (genuinely broke physics going up the windbreak, had to duel hyper maneuverable drone) > Blaze (long tunnel, had to fight a fifth gen aircraft, avoid crashing into Bartlet) > Mobius One/Cipher (Think Avalon and Megalith are roughly equal) > Monarch (only has one, is optional, not that long)
Leadership - Blaze (Razgriz squadron as a whole is given focus as protag, presence is very war changing) > Mobius/Trigger (neither give orders to wingmen, but both have missions near their end exemplifying how insiring they are) > Cipher (Gives orders to Pixy. Pixy uses betrayal. PJ tries to follow up, but doesn't really measure up to Pixy. Missions near the end, like Valley of Kings does show that suicidal bravery is inspired however) > Monarch (doesn't even have a multiplayer mode to order around other people, never really gains love of Cascadian forces, though I guess there is Conquest)
Also, depends on which plane they're using (The best one from their respective game, their cover plane, the worst one/starting from their respective game etc.), where they're fighting, and a lot of other factors probably
(2/2)

>>531437261
> extreme autism
I mean if a pair of damaged fighters were limping back to base the best way to send a message and a warning is by shooting one down (preferably with gun) while letting the other left.
Only need one messenger

>>531440978
Yeah, that's fair, but what sort of message does blowing up exactly half of a town's windmills give?

>>531441048
Your town sucks and needs renovation, let me tear down half for you, free of charge

>>531444485
cliffs confirmed for AC8...

>>531444624
Cliffs? Only mean one thing.
We're going back to Avalon Dam

>8

>>531402025
Those slats open in every game from 4 and on for F-22
While Hornet has the detail of slats that open completely and from the right camera viewpoints you can see the sky behind Hornet.

>>531433649
Its not the first time last year Kono made a tweet about a level he said was so hard they couldn't clear it and it had to be toned down. Personally I would like to try that level in that state just to find out if it really is that crazy or if Kono isn't very good at his own game.

Wew

>>531445730
Avalon nothing
ITS THE WHITE CLIFFS OF SOTA!!!!!!!

KF-21 test firing Meteor and IRIS-T

>>531450858
I wonder if PA will add KF-21 to AC8.

>>531450858
I hope they do add her I would like to have her in game. Plus this video shows you what SPW she'll have
>Fucking QAAM's in real life

But what about some of the other new stuff like the Turk NOTF-22?
Seeing as how PA added silly stuff in Infinity as in Sky Kid we need something silly in 8
The Qaher-313

>>531451082
>>531452738
It's currently more of a weapons carrier than actual stealth fighter, no?
KF-21 could be an interesting new addition.

>>531444485
I'm just hoping they go all-out for the concert. Covid forced them into a smaller venue with a reduced orchestra. I want to see a full-scale gig.

>>531456237
Its still in prototype testing stage which makes it perfect fit for Strangereal who very much does put prototypes into production
YF-23, Su-47, X-29, MTD, Su-37, S-32

Gripen is no match for Eagle's whale missile

>>531456237
Yeah, Block 1 is a 4.5th gen with preliminary LO shaping. They're aiming for Block 3 to be a full blown stealth aircraft. They even have cavities for the bays in the Block 1 airframes being produced. Maybe so they can upgrade them in the future, or at least so they can share some tooling.
>>531457349
See above. The flying aircraft are prototypes, but Block 1 is in serial production right now, and they aren't going to be stealthy.

war is bad
it makes me sad

The thing that confuses me about the KF-21 is that they went for caret intakes like the F-22, rather than Diverterless Supersonic Inlets. You don't want DSI's if you want to go above Mach 2 but KF-21 is only specified for up to Mach 1.8 (Makes sense considering it uses licensed Super Hornet engines), so they would have worked fine. They're stealthier and lighter too.
I dunno, it's above my paygrade. Would be interesting to hear the reason though.

>>531473518
But planes are rad
So I can’t be mad

every single day i'm thankful that i discovered ace combat and am part of the community
we're all gonna make it, buddies

>>531485450
Damn right brother. Main reason why I replayed the games recently is because i have a computer for them, and a paid off condo. And also because I quit doing drugs.

Seeing the games again is like re-meeting your childhood heroes.

NGL, I'd be kinda mad if I waited the better part of decade just to get AC3 2.0. I hate it's aethestics and setting.

i'd also be pissy if we get lame 50's guns only sausage jet early cold war crap

>>531451082
Probably 1st DLC.

>>531514624

>>531515267
I think it'd be neat. P80 through century series stuff always gets the least amount of love in fiction.

>>531515267
Shit taste

>>531471102
Yeah but stealth only matters in the real world in AC its of little use.

>>531516316
Combat aviation was going through a very weird phase up until Vietnam. Doesn't help that Korea was abysmal dogshit as a war, even if you include jet-vs-jet doghfights.

>>531515790
>Douglas entry
>That time I drew an Eagle while drunk

>>531517176
I want a game where we have the pre-space age meta (or at least one of the theoretical ones). Massive bomber fleets like from WW2 but supersonic so we can actually see some of the weapons from that area used. Things like interceptors with only unguided rocket armaments to throw as much explosives into the sky as possible while making a high speed pass at a bomber formation.

>>531517176
I want a game where we have the pre-space age meta (or at least one of the theoretical ones). Massive bomber fleets like from WW2 but supersonic so we can actually see some of the weapons from that era used. Things like interceptors with only unguided rocket armaments to throw as much explosives into the sky as possible while making a high speed pass at a bomber formation.

>>531515267
You want early Phantom, with shitty Sidewinder and no guns?

>>531443621
I think the JASDF fucked up big time by not upgrading the F-2.

>>531518410
mid 90s, radar deflection a serious aspect, but also heightened focus on supermanuevrability and with a ton of OC designs inspired by paper napkin designs like the NATF, X36, MBB X-31. etc

>>531518531
They didn't pick it because they chose the F-35 instead. Which is honestly a much better choice.

>>531518410
>mfw reading about F8 pilots in vietnam having their sidewinders fail even before launch, a sidewinder missing for despite a perfectly good track and angle of attack, a sidewinder tracking but failing to explode, having guns that stop working after a couple of high-G maneuvers
>and all of this while facing 6 enemy migs at once
how those pilots kept cool with such garbage technology i do not understand
i would have been raging after the first sidewinder failure

>>531524656
Would be funny if we got to hear someone go full Yuki Tsunoda over the radio in the next AC desu

>>531524656
Unreliable tech had been a thing for everyone as long as they had been alive back then it was just part of the job and life.

>>531524656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbt-LOcry0M
>the F-105, a Mach 2 fighter-bomber with this level of technology, was getting shot to pieces by rice farmers with shitty Korean war era jets
A tragedy

I think the late '60s is my preferred period for a Cold War-era prequel. Era appropriate planes range from late 1st gens (eg. MiG-17) to early prototype 4th gens (the F-14A's first flight was in 1970) for endgame superplanes, with everything in a hypothetical roster being able to take a pair of STDMs for gameplay purposes. This timeframe gives us the Century series, the Vietnam collection, and plenty of bespoke unique shit at all levels of the tech tree like the CF-105, TSR-2, La-250, XF-108, Tu-128, and A-12/YF-12.

>>531332448

>>531524656
> The Services and the Department of Defense were shocked by the poor missile performance - pre-war operational tests predicted that the AIM-9 was expected to hit 65% of the time. The missile testing program, however, did not reflect how the missiles would be used.
> Almost all the tests were against non-maneuvering drone targets at high altitudes, many of them with artificially strengthened radar returns.
The higher ups are just high on that missile hopium

A Viper with a shark mouth thats a new one on me.

>>531518410
The standard missiles in game already have pitiful range, are always fooled by flares, and are borderline useless in all aspects besides direct rear and head on. The only appreciable difference would be no more head ons.

>>531526268
>rice farmers with one of the most sophisticated air defense networks in the world
>rice farmers with endless Soviet gibs
>rice farmers with 80+ S-75M systems at a time when the likes of East Germany and Czechoslovakia had 10-20
There's a difference between the VC/NLF and the PAVN.

Another thing I don't like about 0 is that Excalibre and XB-0, the two midgame superweapons, are thrown at you without any forewarning. Here's this gargantuan skyscraper with a laser on top that shoots at you the mission before it's revealed, and here's this huge gunship whose existence is only hinted at by a gigantic empty hangar the mission before. Stonehenge and Arkbird have a lot building up to them at least. Hopefully either 6 or 7 have better pacing.

>4

>>531530374
It makes sense
Excalibur had a very limited range so it wasn't a problem for any of your operations until that point. Your being paid to fight not keep up with enemy static weapons.
XB-0 was a secret new airship it showing up out of nowhere is kind of the point.

>>531530374
0 is going for Wunderwaffe angle
> Here's something you never know exists but is in our hands!

>>531530374
Cipher doesn't fuck around.

When Pixy mentions there being three kinds of aces, he points them off with his thumb, index finger, and middle finger. That’s the German way to count off to three. Belka is based on Nazi Germany of course.
The west uses index finger, middle finger, and ring finger to do the same.

>>531525657
i get it but it's just incredible to me how eager they were to rush unproven technology into combat as fast as possible before making sure it even works

>>531526268
the north vietnamese air force was highly professional and their pilots were among the best in the world with training and equipment that was state of the art directly from the soviet union, anon
the vietcong and the north vietnamese army were two different groups

>>531526963
>1950s to 1970s
>mig-17s and mig-21s to f-14s and f-15s

>1990s to 2020s
>yf-22s and delta wings with canards to f-22s and delta wings with canards

>>531524656
This is the same kind of shit that happened to US torpedoes in WWII. Being issued fancy new tech that was not properly tested but promised to give a massive advantage is just a way of life for those guys.

>>531538132
>Losing a war they started
>Rush unproven tech into battle
What is Nazi Germany

TBF Excalibur wasn't rushed it had been planned out as an ICBM defense system and went online 2 years before the war started. But as Belka kept losing it got turned into its AA role we know it as. It was put into a role it wasn't built for and performed so so until destruction.

>>531539431
Anon, that post is responding about the Sidewinders. The early version.
USAF higher ups are idiots who think missiles turn guns obsolete and then get assfucked once the heavy, gunless F-4s got shot down by Fishbeds

>>531539881
The presence or absence of guns had far less of an effect on the Phantom's performance than did tactics and training. See the USN's K:D before and after TOPGUN was founded despite flying gunless Phantoms throughout all of Vietnam.

>>531524656
>>531527309
At least some of the poor performance of early Sidewinders can be attributed to bad maintenance practices. Missiles would be stored in poor conditions, reused for multiple sorties if unfired without any inspection in between uses, etc. For a time, ground crews would also treat them like older unguided rockets such as HVARs, doing things such as hammering on fins to align them. Obviously this compounded reliability problems.

>>531543120
Well that too, I guess.
did the higher ups think the existence of guided missiles meant dogfight is a thing of the past?

>>531539881
............Its been a long day

>>531544873
Yes they did such idiots exist in the higher ranks at all times even today.

>>531544880
Don't you mean, "It's been a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLKkap8E1uI "

>>531545703

which ace combat is the most fun to 100%?

the older i get the better the tornado looks

>>531556282
Not AC5, that's for fucking sure.

>>531557512
ac5 has the worst replayable missions

>>531557608
I was more thinking about the assload of plane variants that need to be grinded for.

>>531558432
no that would make it extra fun

>9

>>531524656
>By the beginning of June, we all hated the new AIM-4 Falcon missiles. I loathed the damned useless things. I wanted my Sidewinders back. In two missions I had fired seven or eight of the bloody things and not one guided. They were worse than I had anticipated. Sometimes they refused to launch; sometimes they just cruised off into the blue without guiding. In the thick of an engagement with my head twisting and turning, trying to keep track of friend and foe, I'd forget which of the four I had (already) selected and couldn't tell which of the remaining was perking and which head was already expiring on its launch rail. Twice upon returning to base I had the tech rep go over the switchology and firing sequences. We never discovered I was doing anything wrong.
AIM-4s screwed this man out of a 15th kill on at least three separate occasions, so he said fuck it and ordered his squadron to re-equip Sidewinders.

>>531530374
What I want to know is how Excalibur came as a surprise to the Allied forces at all. Did Belka tell everyone it was a huge radio tower or something?

>>531564889
It's possible Belka might have hidden the existence of reflector satellites.
And no one think that an anti ICBM laser can be used for AA purpose

>>531564889
>>531566451
Yeah, the reflector satellites give Excalibur the crazy range. Otherwise it would only be useful as a point defence tool.

>>531528754
But do any of the game missiles fly into the sun

>>531572493
MPBM turn into a sun. Close enough

>>531544067
i'm a hobbyist when it comes to mechanical and aeronautical engineering and it always makes me laugh when i read about how people used to design and maintain everything so poorly even when the issues it would cause would have been obvious
ah well, power of hindsight i suppose

Ignoring RoE and shit, what caused early US missiles to fail so often? I know that their tests were in perfect weather and skewed to give the missile a pass as often as possible, but I'd like some more info. I've heard fuddlore that Olds even found cigarette ash inside a Sidewinder.

>>531525162
>missile finally launches
>pilot celebrates like schumi winning the 2000 championship in suzuka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFWe5tTy0E&ab_channel=F1memes

>>531593168
Poor maintenance and improper training are the biggest reasons. The Navy's missile success rate went up substantially once they reformed both.

What am I in for?
Are there any Macross planes in here?

>>531600050
Did you buy any of the DLC plane packs? Because the CFA-44 has an almost Macross-esque missile spam special weapon option.

>>531600050
>Are there any Macross planes in here?
Not directly, but Kawamori made the ASF-X Shinden II which is a DLC plane, and multiple other planes were influenced by the series. Thank the usual suspect for why we haven't gotten any Macross collabs in the US.

>>531600417
>>531600665
I went with the base game cuz I heard the DLC planes are OP. ill get the them when I finish the game

>>531600050
>What am I in for?
Fun
>any Macross planes
With mods yes a YF-29 can be added in
Skin pack mods also exist to given several planes the look of certain VF's

Because its so much more fun when you have proper music playing than just seeing an image
>>>/wsg/5925401


Officially the CFA-44 would count while the Shinden is designed by Kawamori so it also counts both are DLC planes
Get whatever planes you want but getting the missions is a must have you will not be sorry on them. The Top Gun DLC is also highly recommend.

>new tomb raider was announced several years ago
>new ace combat was announced several years ago
>still no news
i don't like this trend of games taking a generation to develop

Uhh Chopper your gear is still down in the middle of battle

It appears Chopper noticed his mistake and retracted his gear finally.

>>531635205
skill issue

>>531644076
sexy
ac4 had the best aesthetic

>>531635205
You can't escape american humor

>>531644076
Oh man, this screams Wipeout/Designers Republic to me

>>531644076
It does give a certain familiar feel to it

Bros I just want fucking AC8
What could possibly be taking them this long? The foundation is there. They don't need to take another hundred years like they did with 7. They know there is an audience for it. They know it will sell. Why the fuck are they taking this long.
I don't understand and I am upset.

>>531650326
>The foundation is there.
On UE4 for PS4 and XB1, not on UE5 for PS5 and XBSX. God help them if Bamco looked at the Switch port of 7 and told them to put 8 on Switch 2.
And besides that, the studio wasn't reformed until summer 2022 so full development wouldn't have started until they finished staffing out that studio.

>>531650326
the level of presentation and polish people expect out of an Ace Combat title is near AAA, except PA is working with AA budgets and smol indie dev team size.

Ace Combat X is tremendously underrated.

>>531650326
Relax it'll be out when its out like anything good it takes time. Go play some of the older titles while you wait. Or start up one of the many other plane games.

>>531650601
And during that stuido set up time they also had to work on the Switch port of 7

>>531649956
how on earth is it even possible to improve a UI like this

>>531652201
Why? For a racing game its perfect it has all you need with out wasting any space while you have a clear wide view of the track.

>>531652181
>And during that stuido set up time they also had to work on the Switch port of 7
That was outsourced to Future Tech Lab and Akashic Records actually. If anyone from BNA worked on it then it would've just been the head producers.

AC8 better have branching missions like ACX. It's fun to decide your own path

>>531653096
>branching story and at least two or three different endings
>wingman commands like 5
>pilot style/reputation like 0 that has some influence on how the campaign develops, even if it's nothing major
All things that would massively contribute to replayability and staying power. I love AC7 but it felt really constrained, which I can forgive, but I hope they'll try to go a bit wilder with 8

>>531653703
You left out
8 need to be 6 on steroids, crack and shot so far past 11 it went plaid
What can I say I loved those huge battles. Its the only game that has ever felt like a total war between nations

giv Infinity 2 while you're at it

>>531656761
no
multiplayer is cock and balls

>>531656761
we will be dropping 25 dollars on the 3x 24 hour XP boost pack with Galm squadron emblems...

I got to thinking maybe its a bug they never caught with Chopper on this mission
F-15C & MTD gear stays down until Pops takes off I'll try one more time with a different plane think I'll try with Gripen and see if its any plane or something odd with the Eagles.

Ok that would be a yes Chopper has a gear bug that only last until Pops takes off. If you want silly pictures or video of jets fighting gear down just give it to Chopper.

>>531652761
we really reached the peak and then threw it all away huh...

Ok I had forgot Pop's plane stays on the map after he takes to the air it just doesn't show up on radar nor does it have a green square around it. I remembered that when I flew right by his plane and heard the sound of props.

plottwist

So Mig-29's can use SDB now it really makes me wonder what kind of load out she'll have in 8

Anyone have this in a larger version?

>>531677268
5 seconds of reverse image searching

If they remake the PS2 games should they add in newer mechanics like high-G turns and flares?

>>531684636
> high G
Yes
> flares
No need

>>531695258
Su-20? Always thought they were underappreciated.

>>531650683
This is it in a nutshell. You can't rush dev time if you want a quality product. Even crunching and burning out your workforce can do so much.

>>531695712
How to differentiate 17 and 20?

AC7's theme of uncertainty of information is neat but "nobody knows who fired the first shot" falls apart under the smallest scrutiny
I also guess that makes it realistic because a ton of shit also falls apart under the smallest scrutiny irl

>>531709970
17 is domestic, 22 is export, I have no idea for 20 but I assume the same as the former

>>531709970
The 20 was only used by export customers, and you can see Polish markings on it. I think the one in >>531695258 is a 22UM3K, however.

>>531684636
No, neither.

>2

The journey begins
Starts from within
Things that I need to know

The song of the bird
Echoed in words
Flying for the need to fly

Thoughts endless in flight
Day turns to night
Questions you ask your soul

Which way do I go?
How fast is too slow?
The journey has its time, then ends.

If a man can fly over an ocean
And no mountains can get in his way
WILL HE FLY ON FOREVER

SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING TO BELIEVE IN
FROM ABOVE I CAN SEE THE HEAVENS
DOWN BELOW I SEE THE STORM RAGING ON
AND SOMEWHERE IN THE ANSWER
THERE IS A HOPE TO CARRY ON

When I finally return
Things that I learn
Carry me back to home

The thoughts that I feed
Planting a seed
With time will begin to grow

The more that I try
The more that I fly
The answer in itself will be there

>>531717231
S O V L
O
V
L

>>531717231
That isn't exactly Rock n' Roll, you know

>>531709970
Visually without weapons - you probably don't. Su-20 is export Su-17M. It had different gunpods and abilitiy to carry R-3, and because of that it could use Kh-23 only with datalink pod.

>>531721225
Is that the same case as with 22?

>>531730193
22 is just export Su-17M2, but with slightly better engine iirc.

>>531743475
>stealth confirmed AC8 will have inertia
Oh Kono, you sly nugget

So was full band a spy or lousy to get the awacs cunt to get him killed ?

So was full band a spy ?

>>531757737
No he was just a retard putting his nose where it doesn't belong and as such became a liability.

>>531753854
just another crumb that ac8 will be electrosphere 2

>>531769052
isn't 7 a prelude to Ace Combat 3 ?

>>531771308
7 has a few little tidbits that hint at the events of AC3

Raw gameplay of my solo dev project Hellbirther heavily inspired by Ace Combat, themed around walking tank drones controlled from afar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Lg3L55U_4

>>531760490
Thrown into a penal unit and constantly given warning but ignored all of it?
Bro thinks he's a protagonist

>>531717231
This always makes me tear up when it plays during sea of chaos and when the osean and yuke soldiers sing together at the start of Aces

>>531695258
I'm surprised the Poles haven't scrapped them already. Are waiting on the F-35s and whatever they decide between the Typhoon and F-15EX?

>>531521251
What ASMs can the 35 carry internally? Still It's useful to keep uprgraded Viper Zeros around for grunt work.

>>531779037
Not even a waifu can redeem the literal piece of dogshit the Defiant was.

They wouldn't dare make another AC game without the F-5 in it again, right?

>>531793785
>He'll taxi up into your saddle, turn on his M39
>He'll blow you to hell with a twenty mike-mike shell
>Safe up his guns and go home

>>531793785
Should have been the starting plane in 7 instead of the f16

>>531799695
I agree.

The f16 should be more of a mid tier plane with maneuverability more similar to a Rafale and Typhoon. And block 60s and 80s equal to those planes.

mercenary is the canon ace style for Zero because it gives you the coolest skins

>>531805606
It's also the one that gives you Huckebein fleeing Belka n-not that I would know without looking everything up as a knight shitter

>>531805720
i like to sever the thread of prophecy and shoot him down

>>531805720
>not being all three kinds of aces

>>531681595
>google has failed me yet again

>>531805720
Better be an autist and get that gauge right in the middle, soldier.

>>531743475
I get this, playing a game on a monitor not even half the size of the TV has a very different feel to it in many ways.

>>531811151
>Has been that autist who did keep the gauge in the center for an entire run.
For no other reason than to see if I could

>>531681595
Nowadays half the time I search an image with google it gives me no results other than what it's stupid fucking AI's opinion I never asked for and couldn't give less of a fuck about.

F-4 Summer

i wish more plens had cute mascots like the spook

>>531816601
like, look at the lil guy, ain't he adorable?

>>531816601
>>531816792
Cute spookers.

>>531816601
>Couldn't figure out how to draw Israeli culture without just making a Jewish stereotype, so they just drew it in IDF fatigues

>>531816601
I do appreciate the Biblically Accurate Blue Angels.

>>531784606
I hope Bandog made it out okay. For all his bluster he was the one really rooting for Spare, being the one to give them weapons hot clearance and to get them resupply line access. He was the guy who actually made his boss' retarded ideas work, but McKinsey still got all the credit.

>>531820732
What was even the plan for someone like Bandog on Tyler Island? They wanted the actual pilots to steal planes from the Erusians, but Bandog would've needed an AWACS and I doubt there was one lying around there. Then again, Mead and the prison guards seem to have just been tossed over there with literally no plan, so maybe that was the point.

>>531793785
It would've been so easy to put Mage in F-5s and Golem in legacy Hornets, then have some line about the IUN having to work with Osea's old castoff equipment as a nod to UPEO having a similar predicament in 3. Be nice to see more older planes in general, more unique planforms going around than all the F-22/F-35 knockoffs of modern times.

>>531830482
I can see Bandog ruffling some feathers on his own and is temporarily transferred to Tyler Island as disciplinary action. Then Trigger turn the squadron from "distraction" to "combat" and Bandog was given an old E-3 maybe?

I can see Bandog ruffling some feathers on his own and is temporarily transferred to 444th as disciplinary action. Then Trigger turn the squadron from "distraction" to "combat" and Bandog was given an old E-767 maybe?

>YWN fly with your actual wife
Pain.

>>531831596
You vill get two dozen Flanker variants and two dozen mystery meat F-35 knockoffs and you vill like it.

>>531848174
Doing the first would require Chinese machines, the second Chinese and (may Amaterasu forgive me for uttering this word) Korean. Not sure PA can pull that off without getting collectively decapitated by corporate ninjas.

If AC8 has chinese planes I hope it's the J-10

I'd like a J-7E personally. Probably would never happen though

what do we think about the recent rafale shootdown and the jeet incompetence that allowed it to happen?

>found my old low speed and supersonic aerodynamics textbooks from uni
You do know how planes work, right?

>>531816601
>>531816792
Why do Thunderbirds get a unique pose (and unique head in the second one?)

>>531866998
even though it's a better fishbed watch it be shittier than the fishbed because kono has a huge boner for the fishbed for some reason

>>531866998
it's literally just a slightly different mig21
boring
>>531871219
I know the equal transit time thing is retarded

>>531871219
>why yes, i do know how planes fly by spending years studying racing car aerodynamics

I'll probably be late for the Shootout tonight, buddies.

Alright room's up buddies

Airplane

>>531905282
Airplanes are cool

After replaying the trilogy of ps2 games, and going back to 7… wow what a dopamine drop.

I forgot how depressing the first several missions are.

when game kono-sama

I wish they'd make an AC game with literally not a single escort or defense mission
Fuck missions that have you babysit some asscunt npc, in any game genre ever

For me, it's the Q-5 Fantan. I always liked flying it in Battlefield 4.

Dorito

>>531928778
Garbage opinion. You are retarded.

THE JEFF

<<A victory sure would be nice today.>>

>>531928778
transfer orders gets a pass because you can shoot down mckinsey yourself

>>531936782
NF-16 my beloved

>>531905552
.........

I hate ten million relief plan so much.

>>531940437
Why?

>>531942370
It’s the only one I can’t get an s rank on normal. But I will get there one day.

>>531942508
Its S requirement can be a pain no question

>>531932589
I prefer Jeff over the Flanker knockoff. More unique

Given how PA likes to add little surprises on some levels should we be on the look out for a certain high flying objects in 8?

Of course, I’d love an x-15 that you’d have a 5 second window to shoot down before it outspeeds you. Maybe and x-30 too.

But I will always take another xb-70 beforehand :)

wonder if we'll ever get a fan server for Infinity

>>531943294
Well, I got that one down. Now I just have to do it again with a real aircraft.

Any suggestions from the buddies?

>>531949587
Kind of like the SR-71 over the Comona Islands you have just a few moments to shoot it down before its gone from the map.

>>531949587
Imagine a mission where you have to intercept a space shuttle nuclear bomber traveling at Mach 25

>>531953252
That would be cool. Especially in a delphinus-like vehicle that is super sensitive to control & thrust inputs. With a shitload of inertia. And if you go upside down in the atmosphere you overheat and take damage.

>>531950728
I usually go with this, Normal and Hard drones barely try to evade missiles so you can farm them with the F-35 pretty easy just focus the SACS whenever you can for more points; If you destroy both railguns before the Alicorn goes underwater for the first time you will have around 20-30s of it doing nothing so you can dogpile on it with stacked SODs.
Just don't forget to destroy both CWIS before you start raining down SODs.

>>531950705
Is it even possible when the game is shut down?

>>531970979
people have done it before (with PS3 games, at that, like MGO2), although idk how feasible it would be

>>531957713
MSL Damage 1 is useless, you're better off putting another part on.

I want Ace Combat 8's part customisation to be even more expansive

I want AC8 to not have the F-22 as its cover plane

I want AC8

AC8 will have the Wright Flyer as it's cover plane

AC8

>>531957713
>>531983562
Yeah, you're better off with the MSL reload part instead. Now if you had the mod that allows MP parts in SP, it would be a different story (at that point you stack Datalink Antenna with MSL parts and watch the AI become completely unable to deal with your bullshit).

>>531999823
>turn MSLs into QAAMs with this one simple trick!

>>531997947
Why does everyone make cool camos except the US?
>dude what if we, like, paint this badass jet fighter all grey??

>>531999823
>>531983562
huh I always picked it by inertia, never noticed how little difference it actually makes. I guess having no visual values(numbers specifically) really fucked my perception of it, thanks for pointing it out buddies.

>>532004162
90% of the world paints their planes grey

>>532004360
90% of the world is boring and lame

>>532004443
>>532004360
sturgeons law but for plane colours huh

Anyone else ever just play Project Wingman to see their name in the credits? I also saw all the buddies who played back in the Infinity days, I wonder how many are still here? I wonder if we will ever return to the glory days of Infinity posting.