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>>530252352 >Falcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translationshttps://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL
>Kai MTL patchhttps://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z
UPDATED: 08/07
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter Ruan introduction trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_hgREJvkwY
>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west
>Trails in the Sky the 1st website UPDATEDhttps://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/
>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming to Switch 2, PC in Asia on August 21https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/ys-x-proud-nordics-coming-to-switch-2-pc-in-asia-on-august-21
>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky - Character Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlnkFZ4NGI
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter launches September 19https://www.gematsu.com/2025/05/trails-in-the-sky-1st-chapter-launches-september-19
>Trails in the Sky the 1st will receive a new english script that 'Honors the Original Japanese text'https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/04/classic-jrpg-remake-trails-in-the-sky-1st-chapter-confirms-new-script-that-honors-the-original-japanese-text
>Trails beyond the Horizon Announcement Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wfZrV854Q
its it better see a brat get punished or a tough girl losing her power
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HELLO EVERYONE I LIKE ESTELLE AND YOU SHOULD LIKE HER TOO
>>530456602They really nailed the "I'm a nerd faggot" look with Rean.
>>530457218looks like a clown to me
>>530457203But why should I? Characters like Estelle put their butts on display for all to see. I can't respect common whores like that when there are protagonists wearing modest clothing that keeps their butt hidden.
>>530457448What are you on about? Estelle would NEVER show her ass to anyone other than her lover
>>530457218Every guy looks gay in that image for some reason. Kevin is rocking the classic gay look and Van looks like he's the closeted quarterback. Who drew them?
Kai 2 will have more Class VII members than ASO members.
>>530457739probably the same artist, basically Enami's copy cat
>>530457645Estelle must have a lot of lovers then...
>>530459698god i want to headpat agnes....
>>530457149Honestly yeah fair point there really isnt as much of a difference between JK and hags as we think.
Out of curiosity, I looked up walkthroughs for CS1 & 2 and saw that I missed a /lot/ and now I get why people play with guides. But on the other hand I prefer to play vidya blind without a guide at all. I'm pretty conflicted on how to proceed at this point
>>530462238the games are too long and have too little replay value so you may aswell just use a guide and see it all
>>530462369That's pretty convincing, thanks anon
>>530462238they add quest markers for everything from cs3 onwards so you shouldn't miss any quests. might need a guide if you want to max out points or get all achievements
>>530461086Riina... Ester... Ravi...
>>530462791I don't mind missing out on hidden stuff, just so long as the rewards are not necessary for having a good time on Nightmare difficulty. I like to be challenged but don't need to be brutally crushed to have an enjoyable experience
>>530467860While not necessary most likely there's missables that I couldn't imagine not having, or are just too useful.
can't stop cumming to agnes
can't stop cumming to killing anies
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
>>530458885>altina + the ladies look cute and sexy>guys look like gay faggotsPretty based ngl
>>530471435>>530471652she could be your JK daughter your pervert!
>>530461086Estelle shows off her butt willingly
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>>530472534nope she's mine
You will never be loved and desired by a cute and sexy 16 years old high school girl
>>530478782she went out like a bitch i hope she stays dead
>>530479078Anies you don't exist anymore and you're underage regardless, stop posting on /fg/
Just finished Nayuta. it was painfully mid, and I say this as a slop connoisseur who loves every trails and ys game
what other falcomge is worth playing? not touching the 30fps shit but I did install gurumin on 3ds
>>530479704xanadu next is unironically the only non-trails or ys falcom game i thought was actually good
>>530461086Would you tip them /fg/?
That'll be $70 + $40 DLC tip.
>>530481372Nope. They are all on the secret femanon discord. Laughing at you.
>>530481463Ah, I can't WAIT for the Sky 1st Chicken and Sky 1st Cow to be staples of kai 2 and beyond
>>530481463oh my stars sirs but that looking so soulful.. *.* i cannot believe it that we go back to liberl soon....
>>530481463wtf is wrong with that cow kek
>>530481547*punches you hard then grabs your face and burps on it*
the image that convinced me to spend a whole year binging over 10 games
>>530486646you say that and you don't provide a rundown on which hags, flats and whores are the best?
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>>530486646Similar for me I starting playing this because I learn you could look up JK skirts in the game and then I ended up playing every game in the series
>>530490035>its just copy pasted in kuro 2
Post trails in the woke and gay
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>>530492449*raughs* that's right kebin... gotta make sure your resolve is up to the task...
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Thinking about this series in 2025 makes me sad. Sky FC was such a kino game, despite what people say about it being "slow" (SC has much worse pacing anyway) I still believe it was paced perfectly with a good plot, memorable characters, the best antagonist in the series, outstanding atmosphere, and the best twist ending in the series. The earlier games had a good grasp on how to create narrative tension and raise stakes when needed. To go from that to where the series is now, it really makes me feel like they phoned it in somewhere during CS, and they just don't have the writing talent to make the story work anymore. Every plot twist feels like an asspull, every antagonist feels like a joke, character motivations are all over the place, etc. and above all else, Falcom doesn't respect the concept of strong-minded characters sincerely battling over their ideals, despite the series being full of strong-minded idealists. Everybody just wants to get along, every battle is just a "test" of willpower/strength/whatever, and that destroys narrative tension. And as if to laugh at players for not liking this, Falcom went and made Kuro 2, a game that revels in death fakeouts and bullshit stakes while dragging the pacing out to an interminable crawl.
No this is not a reddit post, I'm just venting about one of my favorite games going to shit. We can't have nice things anymore.
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>They fight each other, and possibility get injured for resolve
Emmafag here... It's been a while... I haven't been here since a year ago before Kai... What did I miss in 1 year?
>>530493713nothing new, same old shit but the morale is low because kuro 2 and kai were not very good
Kato died
>>530493128>>530494052Is it a matter of the older games raising the bar too high, or these games just being "okay" in comparison to all the good games? I haven't made it to the Calvard games yet but it can't be all doom and gloom
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>>530494574Kuro 1 is acceptable, decent setup
Kuro 2 is THE biggest skippable candidate of kiseki ever, it does almost nothing to advance the plot and is honestly frustratingly bad due to time loops
Kai is better than Kuro 2 but doesn't go anywhere
so 3 setup games with very little payoff, though I did enjoy a lot of minor scenes in Kai compared to Kuro 2
>>530494839I hated Kuro 2 but Kai just made me exhausted with this series. I feel like Falcom need to do something really drastic to switch it up because I think their formula has just become tired.
Not even Rean can save it
>>530495540I couldn't play Kai for hours straight like I used to be able to for previous kiseki games. It's worn me down too
>>530495576rean is part of the problem in kai though, the guy does nothing interesting because its all being saved for the "next game"
As a longtime slop connoisseur I am confident that I will enjoy kuro and kai surely
>>530495867Even ironically, I don't think you can... it's pretty bad...
>>530495613That happened to me since chapter 3 of Kuro 1, thats when I started skipping entire dialogues, then scenes and never bothered doing connection events, the goal now is finish the games as fast as possible.
I'm done following this series yearly after Kai 2. After that game is out i'm not touching another Kisei game until the series is entirely finished and then i'll just play them all at once.. Maybe I'll play the Sky remakes though unless they fuck those up terribly.
I guess, but his route was more interesting to me and fun. Also liked Kevin's route for the most part. Van's route was so boring, I'd rather play garden lol
>>530496226>unless they fuck those up terribly.*raughs*
I cant wait to see how shit it is
>>530496271reans route was just as shit and boring as the others don't kid yourself, you're just a retarded rean cocksucker so you think everything he appears in is gold
rean's route was less shit to me than the other 2
van's felt stretched for no reason
kevin's felt needlessly filled with pointless conflict
>me and my gf won't kill anymore despite being raised as assassins because... we WONT, ok??? it doesn't matter if someone is committing crimes against humanity and the church has marked her for death for it
>>530495576Rean is the reason this series is shit, what is he supposed to save?
Reans route was boring unless you're a CSfag who basedgasms at references to muh thors and bonds for the 999999999th time. Literally any time the route is about to get interesting they pump the breaks and tell you to play Kai 2.
Kevins route suffers from him being teamed up with the shittiest characters in the entire series who just do nothing but complain and hold him back and it being stuffed with pointless fights.
Vans route suffers from too much padding and Edith but it gets decent in Act 3 when you actually get to explore a new place. Still shouldn't have been as long as it was if they weren't going to do anything with it though.
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mail day came
which should i play first?
>>530496921never seen so much mid in a single image before
>>530496921throw them in the wood chipper
>>530496825Poor rage bait
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>>530497450did literally anything come out of that falcom visit
i was kind of enjoying these mecha battles but the fight against Vulcan's Goliath is extremely tedious, he sometimes gets to attack 2-3 times in a row and when on low health he spams skills and stops doing regular attacks and all I can do is waste time and mitigate. I'm using strength/speed/defense 2 orbs. Is this just how its supposed to go? It aint fun
Im up to reverie but can you guys explain why you like rean? He is as bland as lloyd. Even more bland because lloyd has a lot of preservation and shit like that. What is unique about rean?
My favorite protag is kevin btw. Very tragic character who went almost schizo from guilt and literally created his own hell(phantasma) to torture himself in it forever. He always plays like a clown, never lets anyone know that he is broken inside etc. His arc was about forgiving himself, facing his own fears and guilt, and finally moving on. Kino character. Had more character progression in 1 game that rean had in 5.
Or I can understand why people like Estelle, she always very positive, never gives up, makes everyone around her happy.
What is unique about rean? How is he different from jrpg/anime protag #17158? Genuinely curious, not trying to start an argument. Can anyone describe what you like about rean and what you like about hime like I described kevin?
>>530498816Rean is designed by checklist to tick off every single anime protagonist cliche so retards who've never seen an anime before think he's the greatest character ever made as a result.
>>530498816>What is unique about rean? How is he different from jrpg/anime protag #17158? He's not any different and he's not unique. He was meant to be a self-insert. He is a classical INFJ protagonist, which are perfect fits for this. Lloyd is the other side of the same coin as an ENFJ, people tend to enjoy him more because he's extraverted instead but there's overlap which is likely why you don't like him much either
>>530499061It worked on you though.
https://files.catbox.moe/7iu5rx.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/1xzppo.mp4
Is this "Vankek" in the thread with us right now?
>>530499721https://files.catbox.moe/5up7ta.mp4
>>530498562okay first time i get genuinely annoyed with rean, wailing like a banshee for this guy nobody cares about. he better not come back to life later
>>530499984haha........ he's the only guy who doesn't
NOOO VULCAN… HOW COULD WE KILL A WAR CRIMINAL NOOOOOOO SORRY!!
>>530499984I'm not a Rean fan either but I mean Lloyd did the same shit. It's just a faggy thing Japs love to do with their protags.
>>530499486So people like him the most because he is self-insert? And like other protags less because they have more personality so harder to self insert?
>>530498562What difficulty you are playing on? If its not nightmare, then its skill issue and you just suck. Be patient with hp recovery skill and constantly heal yourself, literally impossible to die.
>>530499486>>530500786These 2 are either retards, samefagging or the pinnacle of falcom npcs.
lmao.
>>530500786Listening to anons is pointless, none of them have ever written any story in their lives
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>>530496921Tokyo Xanadu was surprisingly fun.
>>530501150Fanfic anon did
As did fapfic anon
>>530486646All these exposed tits and I always am immediately drawn to Vita's covered ones
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Been a few days since I posted nisa gems.
Another nisa trashy "punched up" humour attempt. Millium says "十年五年約束だよ"
Millium says "ok, 10 years, thats a promise!"
No sugar daddies, nothing about being broke etc. Why add this? Millium not funny enough?
>>530513562No the trannylator was projecting and only lives in CA due to their sugar daddy chaser paying for their bills
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Millium should have died in CS 3 btw. I like her as a character quite a lot but that epilogue in cs 4 with them somehow giving millium her body again made 0 sense. Nobody ever dying is probably the worst part about the entire franchise and cs arc in particular.
>>530513870her turning into a force ghost was retarded lol
>>530514001yea that was dumb too but I kinda made peace with it but then when you see throughout cs4 that apparently everyone on courageous survived again, george is forgiven again, crow didnt die again, its already infuriating, but that epilogue with her new body was just a cherry on top with how falcom is too cowardly to kill any of its main characters. Completely ruined cs 4 ending for me.
>>530513562This one is an annoying case because if there wasn't constantly shitty meme other ones I wouldnt care about this one as much because its still kind of in character.
>>530503432Proper feminine panties fitting for a princess
>>530513562It’s consistent with how xseed localized her in cs1 and cs2 but yea I prefer a more faithful translation. Hopefully horizon is better translation than reverie daybreak 1 and daybreak 2
>>530519880A smack on a wet butt makes it hurt more because of the friction
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The only other boss that made me so pissed off was crow mecha in cs 1. This faggot cube is literally cheating and no strategies work. He just does his meteorite rain, everyone stunned, then oneshots everyone. With my team composition I cant even combat it.
>>530527720why would i forget the only character to shit on renne hes a legend
Tacoman wouldn't reject Agnes
Why do people shit on Van rejecting Agnes? Rean rejected everybody.
>>530529642Rean didn't reject anyone because cs4 confession scenes never happened to begin with. Rean is a faggot, but it doesn't justify Van for being a faggot as well.
>>530496551Hamilton is the biggest Mary Sue in Trails history
Literally every faction except the Church (and even then not all of it, and the ones who side with her will fight other Church members over it) loves her
>>530496551>>me and my gf won't kill anymore despite being raised as assassins because... we WONT, ok???That's reasonable, it's just when they force that on Kevin that it's bad.
Disgaea 7 and HoriSwitch2 LEs still completely unsold
>>530496921Both games are enjoyable. You can't go wrong with either
>>530496921That's two bad games. I'm so sorry. If you have a Switch 2, go with Nayuta. TX2 is listed as incompatible with the Switch 2 to the point you can't buy it on the eshop as I imagine it has game breaking bugs.
>only 30% off for daybreak
Come on nishit
A reminder that Daybreak wasn't good, it was different and therefore came across as refreshing
>>530536804>it was differentNot really. The big difference is that Van openly killed people before the whole thing was retconned later on but the rest of the game wasn't really that different to Cold Steel.
Calvard should have been TX2, where Van is a fixer in Tokyo.
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>>530501164Oh you're the latter, 2 retard npcs.
>>530542039this trash is not as hot as you seem to think it is
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>>530545145impressive, massive thighs
>>530531714>join assassination mission>refuse to assassinate in said missionWTF KEVIN! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US?!
>>530524607>>530525214>>530542039I wish that most women had tits like this
I wish most women had tits and bodies like this
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Haha... Rean lives rent free in my head...
>>530549929not canon, never will be canon, and will be forgotten
>>530547439They said to Kevin at the start that they would do it. Kevin's own fault.
>>530550424doesn't make it less stupid, desu
>>530471652This is amazing. We need more butt press content
>>530543876Do you have full image set of this?
Estelle is about to be cucked
https://files.catbox.moe/cksjdo.jpeg
Making Van kids
van drives a truck
this is false advertising
https://files.catbox.moe/8qyf83.jpeg
I don't want to cum anymore
Funny how Vankids want him to be NTRman when the truth is he is scared of stocking it in a woman and can't commit.
Nobody was talking about Quatre, the tranny Van associates with
>Joshua?! Haha, Ban-san was showing us around Edith
>>530563669We know Vankid
>>530564076I don't care about Van thoughever
You can pair any girl with Van and it'll still be a great pair. Just shows how much rizz a single man can have.
Quatre isn't a girl Vankid
>give Van the best harem in the series
>you can't romance any of them
Captain Steal-Yo-Girl has arrived!
>>530550424Kevin's route as a whole was really bad. I did enjoy kevin route 2, but route 1 is just a fucking "test your resolve" bullshit and act 3 was pure unfiltered dogshit, it's like the writers completley gave up, even AI could write a better less contrived conflict and outcome
>>530496551>rean's route was less shit to me than the other 2Rean's route had no effect on the plot whatsoever, nor any reveal at all. Out of the three she was the most dispensable one
>Fake sky >Don't tell Van about it, and Van see it too anyway in the last hours>See the black mecha>Van see it too anyway in the last hours>Learn about Kevin wanting to kill Hamilton>Don't tell Van about itAll Rean did was fight Emilia, Shizuna and Kafai, who had no agenda whatsoever, beside already being on the good guy side
>>530565070Wait for Van's final episode part 3 (raughs)
>>530522685Imagine Elaine acting like a helicopter parent around Agnes and being annoying to her at the beach it would be so hot
>>530569764Isn't YKF on board with Hamilton? Either way I agree that Rean had nothing really to share with Van's group, plus Van already learned about Shizuna's fight in her connect event. In Rean route 3 when he learns about the plan he's already blocked out of grim sharten. Kevin on the other hand deliberately didn't share anything from his route 2.
Van is really the most OC do not steal character in Trails. Strongest ability from the jump + unique gameplay no one else gets, knows practically everyone and was retroactively involved in prior events yet no one remembers him, one of the most popular legacy characters simps for him immediately, abandoned his friends for years mainly his GF who became a model and star of the Guild yet never has had one romantic relationship besides him since then, main party only sticks around for him, special lineage that’s so special the writers forgot to include it in the story.
>>530570146Didn't he throw his diabolic core into nothingness? How can he still feel muh demons? Falcom even nerfed his super sniffer which i assumed was due to losing the connection with vagrants zionist.
>>530565681kek @ last part
>>530575053im glad falcom fixed her bum
No matter how hard it gets or how doomed it looks always remember that Kiseki has the best butts and the games aren't afraid to show them off. They cant take that from you.
>>530547439They don't even have to do anything, Kevin is the one doing the killing, they just get in the way for no fucking reason
>>530581639Guys I don't think Elaine is mid anymore
>>530581639Post-op tranny?
>>530583085damn i think i might be gay now
>>530587332>literally brings up trans out of nowheregenuinely get some help
>>530587776is it gay if he can turn into a functional girl?
>>530570567What makes you think you'll be opposing Hamilton in the long run? Every faction, including half the Church, is up her ass
>>530590035because falcom needs another conflict and boss fight? also we don't know what ykf is truly after, that old fuck sure knows a lot about what's going on
>>530569764It sounds more like Rean had a lot of stuff but because there needed to be a Kai 2, Falcom made it so there was little to no communication between groups.
>>530590352Rean route 1 is filler/fanservice
Rean route 2 is just a build up and half of it gets resolved in Shizuna's 2nd connect event
Rean route 3 is actually decent and does answer some questions relevant to the plot
>>530589409Cute canon couple
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Reana mutt...
>>530589734yes infact trannies are more gay then gay men
>>530582949This camera angle really shows just how much of their butt is hanging out
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>>530592858how is Quatre a tranny if he can become a functional woman?
>functional
Proof? Otherwise it's just a mutilated femboy.
>>530595836he clearly stated his body undergoes transformation if he doesn't take the pills, if he can grow tits, his dick will shrink into the clit
Why does idiots and 3rd worlders like cold steel and rean so much
>>530596909can he get pregnant when he's off his meds
Why do Vankids like Quatranny so much?
>>530596909By that logic the female Rean shit isn't tranny shit because it's "functionally" female
Quatre is effectively intersex, he takes medicine to suppress the tits but he has both a vagina and penis down there. So yes it's safe to assume he has a functioning womb
>>530548746Altina has the best body in existence
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>>530597065there's still a lot we don't know so... im honestly not sure where they're going with quatre stuff, like he was ok with living as a boy but now he doubts himself because he's attracted to van, and van just told him to do whatever the fuck he wants, it seems like falcom will give us a choice in kai 2 to turn him into girl or not because there's no other reason for them to keep pushing quatre's identity crisis shit
>>530600117Catgirl footjobs
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Loli Laura love
>>530559348>>530561093Estelle must have enjoyed it a lot...
How many people do you think post here? 15? 12?
>>530601632probably 10 at most
>>530601632In our heyday we got over 100 unique posters. But now? 10. Maybe less. Excessive low quality posts drove everyone away.
>>530602592why is she so horny
>>530603024She has daddy issues because of her absentee father and she projects it onto older men. Many such cases.
>>530602592>Hakuleg >Draws Anies x Van smut >Also Hakuleg>Draws Anies getting shadow tentacle raped by Jolda (and liking it)
>>530603698I'm kinda tired of Rean x Towa slop, would be nice if hakuleg started drawing more characters.
>>530604524Hakuleg should draw Rean x Altina unironically
Just did Shizuna’s second connect event in Kai and damn, they’re not doing canon romance after that lmfao. Kondo just can’t help himself. Every girl needs to like Van, huh?
>>530606758what did you expect after crossbell and cold steel
>>530606758I feel like Shizuna was shoved in due to her popularity. Even though i like Van x Shizuna dynamic falcom were probably going with only Agnes and Elaine at first. I remember Kondo said in the interview they had to increase Shizuna's screentime in Kuro 2 because of her popularity.
>>530606758Canon romance makes any other girl a waste of time. Unless I can't romance a heroine I have no interest in her. Falcom needs to bring back the harem. Probably I'll care again for the series.
>>530608035I'd tell you to fuck off and play cold shit, but at this point falcom already messed the whole romance for Van, so might as well go for harem.
>>530605873I doubt it, hakuleg only draws Rean with Towa and Van with Agnes. There're also pairings like Juna x Musse, Elise x Alfin, Ash x Tatiana and so on.
Would be funny if Atlus will recast Akemi Kanda (Estelle's original seiyuu) to voice Nanako in P4 remake unlike falcom haha.
>>530513870>I like this character>I wish falcom made her dieI never understood westoids' obsession with wishing for beloved characters to die. Is this some form of shizophrenia or other mental disorder?
>>530610563I wish falcom wouldnt have put her in a situation where her not dying and then getting her body makes absolutely 0 sense. I dont have any issues with no characters dying and lighter tone overall. I do have issues with characters dying and then magically coming back alive. Especially if its happening over and over forever.
>>530611490>makes absolutely 0 sense.Made sense to me, anon. It was all explained.
gayorg is a tranny janny
anyways, only COOM will save kiseki
>>530603024Ban-san is too sexy for her to handle.
>>530604524I was so upset when he finally drew Risette and it was just a bit of underboob.
>>530618486gay
too much focus on rean. he should be doing that to towa. I don't wanna see him half naked and her fully dressed
counterpoint: hakuleg is based, actually.
>>530618612>man and small woman engaging in sexual activities >gayCloseted much
>>530618486you can easily tell this was drawn by a woman
>>530620290gay.
The focus is Rean's body when it should be Towa's.
>>530618612i assumed hakuleg is a fem artist. a based one.
>>530620581You fucking know its the truth.
>>530620605Correct.
>>530620235>>530620829Are you saying this because it's so easy to self-insert as Towa for you?
>>530620836god what i would give for a handful of agnes titty
>>530620836Is shoving fingers into mouths a fetish for women?
And I noticed that Elaine doesn't get much lewd art.
>>530621209Reanafemanon can you confirm or deconfirm?
>>530620605Yeah okay THIS is what im fucking talking about
not gay
>>530621509Hands are way too small.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/nis-america-saw-a-large-scale-decline-in-profits-in-the-past-year/
Puto 2 flopped bigly
>>530621613What's that supposed to mean
>>530621950>During the past fiscal year, they released The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak, Reynatis, Ys X: Nordics and The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II.literally all flops kek
>>530622191thumbnail made van look like he had a horse face
full pic is somehow worse
Are there any other examples of S-Craft cut-ins with totally different art like this? This is really neat.
>>530621453https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=hakuleg
there are plenty of those, but the majority is towa being a dommy.
>>530620235>the short Asian chick fantasizes about a handsome tall man and flat little woman engaging in carnal activities Guess that tracks
>>530622404which is hot and based.
>>530621950nisabros... how could we let this happen?
>decides to test picnicfags resolve
>busts 2 out stigmas
>*shits, pisses and cums*
>>530622775how to kill a character in one scene
>>530622404this is gay again
hakuleg loves nippleteasing clearly, although i still don't know what she meant by having jorda finger Agnes' nipple
>>530622761this fat cow needs correction
>>530622887Shows how little you know. The right amount of gentle teasing feels great.
>>530621950awesome that will teach their localizers that fan translations are better and that they shouldnt be bundling up all the dlc to purchase preventing people from buying individual outfits.
>>530621950dang I wonder if fan translations is unironically fucking over NISA? Like I guess a good amount of people dont double dip. Or the whole daybreak 2 localization with rizz and pronouns(from daybreak 1) caused people to not want to purchase daybreak 2? Regardless I do think they took way too many liberties with reverie, daybreak 1, and daybreak 2
>>530622761im glad hatsuu is gone, i'd take the rizz editor who doesn't censor shit over rizz editor who censors
>>530622775the fact that Kevin+picnic squad is considered an even match against Rixia+Letty+ 2 Alfins pisses me off. didn't fake Rufus wreck the SSS+Wazy+Rixia? the power scaling is so fucked.
>>530623552the games are flopping because falcom don't make good games anymore, has nothing to do with le translation shit that probably 100 people care about
>Reanasis schlicks to Hakuleg's smut
Somehow this is the least surprising thing about her...
>>530623109So fingering a nipple is better than pinching it lightly? In what world lmao
>>530623601the power scaling was always bullshit
kuro 2 is the most retarded one so far
>the games that flopped in JP flopped in EN too
kekypow!
>>530623601the power scaling never made sense
>>530621950Kuro 1 sold decent out of all these, but the rest were flops
Ys x flopped, kuro 2 flopped, disgaea 7 flopped, also fucking Reynatis lmao
>>530622775Haven't seen a Kevin this raped since the sweltering summer of '92
>>530623842It's the variety. Going right for light pinching isn't always that fun. Sometimes a bit more buildup and teasing, extending the foreplay, goes a long way.
>>530624557KEVIN GRAHAM WAS RAPED IN THE SUMMER OF 1192
>>530624797If what I'm hearing is true... KWAB
>>530624632Sure.
But who the fuck pinches and rubs it?
It looks goofy as fuck. Just rub it with a finger, then two, and then move to pinching.
>>530624557>>530624797Never thought I would see Nashposting on /fg/ of all places.
>>530624845fufu, sasuga wa kondom-dono
>>530625817Given Calvard's flop status, Anies leaving forever to become part of Kou's harem seems even more likely.
>>530625991Fufu, even if he loses he still comes on top
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>>530625817This general would be more based if it posted more Xanadu.
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AI anon, if you're still taking requests, will again ask for some stuff with Clara
>>530623483it depends we dont know how many people are not double dipping who plays fan translation. But regardless ps5 dubbed users are the majority if im not mistaken unless steam is the more NISA sales. Then again the fact that NISA chose now to take down fan translation for kai means that fan translations do have some effect on NISA sales
>>530621209yes some like to bite hands too
>>530626534You should wait for brownoid posting hours then, SEA monkey
>>530626534Yeah but only if it's the good Xanadu games.
>>530626595Reanasis can you confirm???
>>530626575NISA's regional prices are fucked up. Fan-patches do damage NISA to some extent, since NISA's doing everything in their power to alienate players with their troonslations. The only reason I care for NISA releases is for durante's pc ports.
>>530626010holy shit is that why towa is TX? Kondom you devious grandmaster!!!
Just checked article, sales only fell 3% but profits and revenue fell by like 60%, so there are other factors at play.
>>530627118nisa also put out way more games last year than the year before
>>530626929you can put kuro 1 and kuro 2 fan translation in NISA ports. Im very curious how much damage fan translations do to NISA. But then again even if they didnt exist I assume NISA would still be in this same predicament unless there was a huge amount of people who bought daybreak 1 but didnt buy daybreak 2 or not going to buy horizon
>>530621950hopefully this means english dub gets taken out from trails so theres a higher chance localizers do a better translations and trannys cant get hired to play actual women characters
>>530627118Like what? NISA only publish games, unless falcom's licensing fees are getting bigger
Even in western spaces, barely anyone talks about the Calvard arc even though Daybreak 1 and 2 have both been released and Horizon has been announced. 90% of the discussion is still about Sky and Cold Steel. Calvard failed to gain an audience in Japan and it failed to gain one here. Trails fans all like to extol the virtues of how amazing the "interconnected series" is yet Sky and CS are all they actually care about.
>>530627118maybe regular DLC buyers decided not to buy dlc for daybreak 2 due to the expensive bundling of them? prices for that game,reverie, and daybreak 1 did get too greedy compared to CS4 and CS3 because cs4 and cs3 you could buy the dlc separately
>>530569764>Rean's route had no effect on the plot whatsoever, nor any reveal at all.This is correct, im mostly just saying I actually liked it relatively speaking. It was still mostly a waste of time but I had some fun with it
>>530581639>halothat's bleached archive
>>530627515isnt azure the most liked western game?
>>530627118I remember there was an article about NISA being the reason for Nippon ichi software survival, because NIS will die without NISA since they keep making shovelware games that don't sell at all
>>530598494God altina is so cute
>>530627697If it was then why does it barely even get talked about? Barely anyone talks about Crossbell and it's been localized for years at this point.
>>530627515>Even in western spacesDefine "western spaces" and show me an example. On r*ddit and xitter people talk about Calvard arc because of the recency bias and other than that I only see sky remake talks.
>>530627720I hope there will be people getting fired especially the people who made daybreak 1 and 2 localization so that way they fall behind and we can keep getting fan translations for the CLE port
>>530627515people talk about calvard arc but only complaining and dooming if agnes will be the romance with Van canonically. For sky remake its a bunch of people being happy theres a female MC that doesnt have ryza or yumias tit size. But yea people in west to talk about calvard though. Some tourists are happy calvard is reducing the tropes they didnt like from cold steel and a lot of rean haters love van
>>530610563>wanting a story to have actual death and consequences when it makes sense is mental illness and a "westoid" traitThis is what HRT does to your brain.
>>530627515People are waiting for me to start Daybreak. Sorry about that, bro.
>>530610563It's not about wanting every character to die, it's about wanting things to be consistent. If a character dies, they should fucking die. If you don't want to kill characters off then just don't and write around it. No one cares that no one dies in Sky because they don't constantly shove it in your face and bait you with fakeouts like they do in CS and Kuro. Either kill off characters or don't but don't try to have it both ways.
>>530627118so can you explain because I dont know what those numbers are good or bad? Is NISA at risk of shutting down or having to do extreme budget cuts and downsizing?
>>530628570azure does this too
Sky remake barely gets talked about in chink and jap forums like baidu or animanch thoughbeit. For the western fanbase I mostly lurk on twitter for the fanart and all I see are Van, Rean and Estelle profile pics.
>>530628852dude you have to avoid the people with estelle profile pictures those people ARE CRAZY!!!! Im warning all of you they are terrible and exhausting
>>530628628Wait till horizon comes out. Switch 2 fiasco might bite them in the ass, but I highly doubt it'd kill NISA. Falcom games are the best selling games for NISA right now, because everything else flops even harder like Reynatis.
did hatsuu say if shes involved with localization of beyond the horizon?
>>530628959I just I said I only lurk for fanart, I don't interact with fags on twitter.
>>530629395Not really. She's a voice actress now. I think she voices someone in ys vs trails in the sky game everyone already forgot about.
>>530627724She is truly perfect
>>530629697wait what? like full time qualified voice actress? how? she did localization for so many years how did she become a VA. Can anyone just be a VA? is there nepotism?
>>530629524good. Your doing a good thing. Trust me when I stopped interacting with persona fandom whether its reddit, twitter, youtube etc. the games became so much more fun and more enjoyable. Trails is fine for fan base for some sites because its smaller audience. But trust me I do not touch twitter for anything. So im glad you only lurking for fanart, your gonna have a better life with jrpgs this way
Quatre is an unbelievably bad character. Wow
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>>530629697you would think with all this drama with VA strikes and AI, people would consider switching to a more secure job. pic related.
>>530629862https://x.com/Hatsuu/status/1890093139236647289
Don't ask me...
>>530630490ugh
another pirated NISA title for me
>>530629862My guess is perhaps she has a portfolio extensive enough to impress someone. Plus, it's a fighting game bro.
I mean Agnes' English VA did a TON of fan voice over.
Ditto for Elise's VA; she got her start in the internet and was a big name, not unlike Nyanners, back in the late 2000s.
Except unlike Amalee and Nyanners, Rina-chan actually started getting roles with her biggest (and how I learned she actually got into the industry) being 2B.
>>530630736nyanners denying her 4cuck past is so pathetic lmao
>>530630571just play with jp voice
>>530630736Oh, forgot to say: Rina-chan actually works as a VA primarily, while Amalee and Nyanners are streaming which hey, good for them; probably the least demanding lucrative business at the moment.
>>530630736yea but Im sure at lease elises VA got training or classes or some shit unlike hatsuu since elise does VA full time
>>530631079who's to say Hatsuu didn't? Plus, she probably got the work for this game done in a day, 2 tops
>>530600117Need to eat her brown kitty ass
>>530600117"We need to replace Emma"
>>530631782https://www.imdb.com/name/nm14730724/
She apparently voiced Fiona, but her imdb is kinda empty.
>>530632008Read that as
>"We need to rape Emma"
>>530632361Loli catgirl Celine raping big magic milkers Emma does sound kinda hot...
We should talk about Noi's cute outfits instead.
>>530632301see thats what im saying english dub actors for anime and jrpgs just dont get enough training or experience before being put in roles. some of them even hire inexperienced ones for main characters. How does someone with hatsuus minimal experience get to be one of the characters rather than from the pool of over a thousand english vas in california who are more qualified and have more schooling or classes
>>530632301Her voice is pleasant but not something I'd ever recognize.
Guess her biggest role is Anila in GBVR
>>530632872They're very cute
Reanafemanon we still know you schlick to Hakuleg's porn
>>530632685>>530632926These are cute actually. Got any more?
>>530632824idk, could be she has a big portfolio of her dubbing her voice over anime for fun/done fan projects, maybe she works for cheap? I just don't what the big deal is. Not everyone is Troy Baker, Laura Bailey or Ben Starr lol
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>>530632008If Emma and Celine were the same character Emma would have had to be Rean's canon love interest, I imagine. Not that I'm opposed to that in anyway, mind you.
>>530633340im not saying she has to be those levels of VA but there are many many Va's that have more experience and more qualifications and classes than her. How does someone who is a localizer almost most of their adult career suddenly is able to VA one of the fighters in a game. Not an extra like in cold steel which btw she easily can do since she worked at Xseed so that job was easy for her to get.
>>530633096I guess that could be it. hopefully NISA lowers its budget and takes out english dub from trails games
>>530633449Don't you fucking "And?" us you slut! You think you're too good for us huh?! Out there taking Chad cock but still coming back here to get creamy to Rean railing Towa's tight cunt HUH?!
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>>530633576Again, could be she has a padded resume, could be she is cheap.
Could also be nepotism but I am not buying because I think casting is delegated to production companies, the only one I know being Cup of Tea productions. So it's not like because she localizes at Xseed that Xseed casts her because again, I don't think that's how it works.
>>530633956We used to be a real general... now look at us...
>>530633956When is this even from?
Im on the intermission, how much hours wise is left of kuro 1?
Wasnt a fan of chap 3+4, so much retreading of haji to the dot pretty much
>>530633695Christ almighty im fucking the fairy
>>530634146for cold steel 1 she was casted because she works at Xseed as either editor/casting. Im talking about the ys game that shes voicing. But yea your idea about her being cheaper could be it. thats the only logical reason I can think of but then again there are probably Va's as expensive as her or cheaper that have more experience. theres just too little on her voice acting profile
>>530634779Not until I'm done with her, bud
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>>530633956>Hatchet Stone>CalvadolGive it back...
>>530634691Its from a better era…
>>530635313back when we thought the calvard arc was gonna be good haha......
>>530633956WAIT A FUCKING SECOND IS THAT THAT REANASLUT IN THE MIDDLE?!
>>530635619more of these?
>>530635619would let these two noble whores milk my cock like it's going out of style
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goodnight /fg/
>>530636047You get your slut ass back here!
>>530635619any more bunny girl pictures in CS3 CS4 in game model?
>>530636047kissing the homies good night...
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Was curious to see how NISA localized some nicknames. AIda nickname is 火喰鳥, which they translated to Flameeater. The fantranslation said Fire Bird. Both seems wrong, since 火喰鳥 is cassowary or whatever japanese equivalent is.
>>530636908wtf is cassowary
Ys I and II are on sale for 5 bucks. Are they worth playing?
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>>530637778yea i looked it up. what a weird, niche nickname for somone
"largest flightless bird that can kill a human" doesn't really inspire awe or fear lol
>>530638143It's an Australian dinosaur. Complete with killer claw.
>>530636047Fine, good night Reanasis.
I don't understand how sales only dropped 3% but revenue dropped 60%
that doesn't make sense if every game they release.is 60-70
>>530639385probably means that they spent a lot of money on stupid shit
>>530639385Increased production costs from 2 games a year? I have wondered how they are going to manage...
This year it is a rerelease and a remake. Next year presumable Kai 2 and TX? Or maybe Kai 2 and another rerelease/remake/remaster
>>530639385yeah this isn't a case of flopping. in fact it shows that even with all the retarded esl controversaries they only sold 3% less. it's gotta be something else
>>530639831add to this Kato's funeral, maybe?
>>5306347375 and a finale
>>530639385having an english dub. English dub is killing NISA. after reverie they should have stopped english dub
>>530640857???????????? literal fucking schizo nonsense. all the fucking games NISA has made have english dubs and the union rate hasn't changed in years.
actual retard
>>530640974oh wow a dub player. you do realize there are companies who dont use english dub to save money right? like the atelier games and the past digimon games
>>530640974maybe their revenue couldnt keep up with the dub costs compared to before? or some voice actors are more expensive than others
>>530641221>oh wow a dub playertoday i learned that knowing the basic econimical fact spending the same amount of money on two things doesn't raise or lower costs determines what language you play games in
>>530641482the way you responded made it seemed like you took it personally as a fellow dub player.
just finished Trails of DB and really not into any of the characters. I either actively disliked them (Quatre, Feri) or I was neutral. I guess Judith and to some extent Van are the only ones I liked at all.
Do you think I should just bail on this arc until Horizon and go start the Trails from Zero arc instead? I’ve beaten Sky/CS so far
>>530641906>nigga skipped the series peak
>>530641906We may have opposite tastes because if you disliked or liked DB's cast less than Cold Steel's then I don't know how much of this will apply to you given our opposing sensibilities, but to me, the Daybreak cast is a considerable step up from the CS cast especially in DB. And I think Zero and DB are probably the most similar beginning games in the series.
>>530642935Tbh I think I played sky before zero was out. Played the CS games when they came out and I don’t think I knew zero existed
But yeah I’m going to play zero now just wanted to vent about DB1. also the combat was bad too imo. Cs and sky both far better in every way.
>>530643319Which characters did you like the best from Daybreak? I genuinely think none of them stand up to the CS main cast in any entry
>>530643846My favorites are Van, Judith and Agnes.
I really like Elaine, Risette, and Shizuna.
I like Feri and Aaron.
I am indifferent to Quatre.
I dislike Bergard.
To put that into context: I have no favorites in Cold Steel and the only characters I really like are Towa, Fie and Sara. Most I am indifferent about or dislike?
>>530643319I disagree, I think daybreak 1 and CS1 are more similar. having a home base trista and edith and going around calvard to different cities and learning about the disputes like nobles and commoners and white supremacists and immigrants even though that part isnt as emphasized. And almata and ILF are organizations that use the white supremacist and nobles for their own objective. van and rean both have self sacrificial tendencies and has to be told by their teammates, aaron and jusis that their self sacrifice has a negative effect and that people do notice what they do to themselves. But there are many details that are different of course thats why there are many people who think daybreak 1 is night and day compared to CS1 because they probably like that theres no harem or they find van more charming and interesting than rean
>>530644537Disagree completely, the school vibe of CS1 is half of it and that is completely absent in Daybreak. The ways several organizations, especially underground ones, impact a place are the more important things of Daybreak, and those are similarities it shares almost uniquely with Crossbell. I think all MCs except I guess Estelle but Joshua does count, are to a certain degree self-sacrificial and I think Rean is the king of that with no one even close to stealing his crown.
The only point I agree with is how racism parallels nobles vs commoners.
>>530645219van literally traps himself to the middle between the world and the beyond thats pretty sacrificing plus often times he would overuse, or get out of control with his grendel. Pretty similar to rean. and yes the school part isnt in daybreak but the base and the going all around calvard is pretty similar to the field studies and them learning the land and the cultures of each town and how it impacts calvard. the only organizations in crossbell are revach and heiyue and dg remnants. the game was about crossbells corruption and how to stand up to it despite it being there. Daybreak 1 is embracing that the gray area and the middleman between surface and underground is needed. the way almata and ILF like I mentioned before is similar to how they gain power is pretty telling as well
on the racism note with Daybreak 1 that annoyed me as well, or it went over my head. Usually racism or anti immigrant sentiment has some sort of impetus to it and then it’s transformed into bigotry. To me I didn’t understand the racial conflict in DB. There was no explanation as to why people were moving to Calvard except for the dancer sisters. And there was no reason given at all for why Elaine’s father was anti immigrant. Bad guys always think they’re the good guy but there’s no explanation for the racism in DB. If I missed it let me know. It was a lot easier to understand the class dynamics in CS
>>530607048Honestly yeah I should’ve seen it coming for at least Shizuna. She’s been sucking Van’s cock since Kuro 2
>>530646369You didn't miss much. Nobles hates commoners because they thought they are inferior to them. Just replace Nobles with White Calvardians and Commoners with non-white Calvardian, and you get the same plot.
do these bracer optional monster hunts ever get interesting i feel like they just design the most annoying unfun enemy and then just make 5 of them and say fuck you
>>530645873Crossbell City is the base of operations and you explore the state itself to find out how it's doing, what troubles each area etc.
Apart from the mafia, you have Erebonian and Calvardian tensions in the government and felt by Crossbellans caught in between, and that's without mentioning government corruption on both sides of the Diet. Sure there are differing goals to learning about the political state of Crossbell and Calvard, but again how differing organizations impact them and exploring said organizations is a big part of that and I think that's largely missing in Cold Steel since you only need to know that the Reformists is where Osborne lies politically, which is to say with commoners. In CS exploring East Erebonia is more about learning whether a certain place is more aligned with nobles or commoners and why.
Plus it continues bringing up shit the DG cult did which only Crossbell really focused on.
>>530646369The racial conflict is evident since Zero. East Street looks chinese and it is meant to represent Calvard. The established people of Calvard start feeling displaced by eastern immigrants. I don't remember why they have so many chinese but the "middle eastern" looking people migrate because that part of eastern Zemuria is becoming desert and losing water; I think this is mentioned as early as CS3.
I think the elevated racial tensions are the way they are because white Calvardians feel they didn't get what they fought for when they turned a country into a republic. Remember, Calvard toppled its previous government not too long ago.
>>530639385It means that NISA is spending their money on something big. It's like how Falcom's revenue tanked after Kato's funeral. Best guesses is that they're poaching a big license or two, or more realistically it's to do with NIS collapsing and NISA having to send over more money to them as a result.
>>530621950I'm not buying shit nisa when the fan translations are better. I'd consider it if they put it on sale, but they don't. THe most I've seen fucking hajimari on sale for was like 25%. Fucking kikes.
>>530647703>I think the elevated racial tensions are the way they are because white Calvardians feel they didn't get what they fought for when they turned a country into a republic.It's more that Oracion types wish that they could be on top again.
>>530621950Doesn't seem to be related to Kiseki's sales. I wonder what NISA are spending the money on.
The last year being a down year isnt exactly a surprise too. We need to remember it wasnt too long ago that they released the 4(zero-haji) games back to back which inturn caused a huge profit margin, even the japanese report for that year massively favored western sales over chink/asia sales
And going from Kino monstrum to prod nordicks and Reankino to vankuso shows on the sales too, give the people what they want
>>530662620Big Licensing probably.
Gungho doing to NISA what NISA did to XSEED is funny. (Same day releases from Gungho where NISA provided multiple platforms and dual audio)
>>530663023For what though? On their website NISA only seem to have Kai, Disgaea 7 Complete, and a R-Type collection that seems to have no concrete release date. It feels like NISA would have announced a big get.
>>530633340I'd like to port my folio into her project, if you understand what I am alluding to
>>530629862Her website says she had a lot of training.
https://thequeenworks.com/#voiceover
She got her start in more official VA work in Shadowverse.
>>530641325How expensive can the dub VAs be, they just keep hiring youtubers for a hot dog and a handshake
>>530670326AmaLee actually voiced a lot of characters over the years. Van's VA seems to be getting more roles as well. Isn't Bergard voiced by the guy who voiced Lee from the walking dead and shit ton of other characters?
>>530670637Damien Haas was already in much more high profile projects than Kiseki before he played Van, like being a Fire Emblem protagonist, Fortnite, and Delicious in Dungeon. Bergard is the Lee VA, yeah. He also did Bayonetta.
>>530672832Oh it's the guy from smosh? I think he only recently started voice acting. It's also funny how jap cast of Kuro are pretty much all A-list seiyuus. Daisuke Ono, Chiwa Saito, Jun Fukuyama, Kuroda, Big Boss etc
>>530674937I think Falcom does that as a way to advertise their games as the west doesn't really care about voice actors as much. Like how when Nolan North was in everything it was something that people made fun of.
>>530676196A-list seiyuus have idol like statuses in japan.
Kai no kiseki also had some kind of event with Ono Daisuke and Quatre's seiyuu on tgs
>>530663023Nordics and is better than Monstrum Nox just like how Van's games > Rean's games.
>>530683006NTA Ys X has a better combat, but i enjoyed ys 9 more overall. Calvard is a mess, but it has one good game i enjoyed which is kuro 1. CS1 and 2 were decent, but cs3 and 4 were abysmal dogshit i had to force myself through.
>Sky 1st chapter bracer edition sets are all sold out
:( Ah well. They were probably sold out in June already
>>530684638just wait for the next revision that comes with a switch 2 game keycard
nobody but you will be buying that
Trails beyond the Horizon switch 2 limited edition is still at 100% stock on NISA's shop
PS4 and PS5 versions has been sold out twice after another restock
>>530685143It was still a good decision to delay it, thoughever. Yeah it will probably never sell all that well on Switch 2, but Kondo and his cronies can worry about that, haha...
>>530627118What article?
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/trails-developer-nihon-falcom-sees-sharp-drop-in-half-year-revenue-but-maintains-positive-annual-forecast/
This one with link says 43%
>>530685345it might do well digitally but i doubt it, nintendo 2nd and 3rd party games keep flopping on switch 2 due to key card shit
>>530646369It's just wypipo bad anti-white bullshit like you'd find on a Netflix show
>>530684864Wanted the PS5 one. I don’t think I’m getting a Switch 2 until Hyrule Warriors whenever that is
>>530686219I am waiting until Xenoblade 3 and X get Switch 2 updates or releases. If 1 and 2 also got them it would be a dream come true.
>>530621950>sales fell by 3%>in a year when they released *TWO* Trails games and Ys X: Nordics>"Calvard is a massive success in the west!!!!!"
Pyss Xs Proud Chuds, epstein killed himself edition
>>530685861it honestly felt that way to me too. Literally “racist are evil, because… they just are, okay?!” No exploration at all into why some Calvardians would feel a loss of culture/tradition or perhaps their side of the economic debate, like they felt immigrants were taking over the economy or whatever. It felt so forced. In Cold Steel and other games you were given the reasoning behind the class divide and you saw both sides.
I wonder if a lot of it is the translation because there’s other cringey netflixisms like how sexuality and gender is addressed in the script as well. The script for example spelling out that Melchior is gay is painfully cringe inducing. Show don’t tell.
I hope racism isn’t even a theme of Kai. Don’t tackle an issue like that and half ass it. One thing that could have been interesting is outlining religious differences with the immigrants. That has more potential of understanding both sides of a debate.
>>530687684It's not the translation. Sometimes the translations make it worse, but the overall idea is the same.
>>530665938Huh who would have thought. Doesn’t sound like it but hey I guess she has
Question:
Ouroboros is supposed to be pretty secret organization that only the highest echelons know about. Why do they fly around in vehicles with massive Ouroboros logos on them? Even in SC this bothered me.
>>530688160She could be lying though to pad her resume or at least putting more classes than she actually took in reality.
>>530688192Fufu... wouldn't you like to know?
>>530687684https://youtu.be/kIopo-6D7mU?t=1243
>>530688192My guess is because when shit hits the fan there is no need to be discrete. Because let's face it: not like anything ever happens when they reveal their card. And it's not like the general population knows; there are no news outlets or books on Ouroboros.
>>530688973>muh more realistic>releases the single least realistic politics of any arcHoly shit. Crossbell was what mature looked like. It has a country caught in geopolitics, it had the "rebel leader" not being a good guy, it had political corruption and even went so far as to reference bad actors using pedophilia to blackmail politicians.
That is mature. Not the laughable trainwreck that is Calvard.
>>530687684>Literally “racist are evil, because… they just are, okay?!”This is true, though. If you want more a reason, racist people have lower IQs too.
>>530690331>racism bad also fuck wypipowhy are you resetards like this?
>>530689524I partially agree, but Crossbell had dogshit one note antagonists aside from Dieter. I stopped caring about politics and internal conflicts in kiseki after cold shit. Calvard is worse due to falcom trying to explore real world issues in the unrealistic way. Japs know jack shit about real life immigration problems, so they basically copied commoners vs nobles from cs into Calvard, but replaced it with white supremacists and immigrants. I don't think kuro games are explicitly anti white like wokefag, it's more about finding a common ground and that everyone should live in peace and equality. Japs are always afraid of going into controversial topics unless it's about religion lol
>>530690474Most of the heroes in the series and Calvard are white, though. And I don't hate white people. So what, you want chinese racists so you stop your bitching or what?
>>530690484I disagree about Ian and Arios, desu. They literally could rewrite causality to get their loved ones back and make sure it never happened again. Mariabell though is trash.
Also, calling Calvard like commoners vs nobles is an insult to Cold Steel. You had good nobles. You had Machias getting dunked on for hating all nobles. You had the argument for nobles made which was more than just "we are superior cause we nobles HURHURHUR", about the importance of embracing heritage and the importance for nobles to use their privilege for good.
So basically they took a pretty much dead conversation and treated it with 100 times more nuance and fairness than something that is actually happening now
Foomers just fuck off and leave us in peace, you clearly hate the series anyway so what's the point of wasting your time here discussing something you dislike. I hate pokemon, why would I waste my time in their general. You're all weirdos.
racism is stupid but white people arent bad
the indians are
>>530690760Not him but that would be useful. or at least give the reasoning for why white characters are racist. Most racism has a reason behind it like stereotypes. They don’t even tell us why the easterners and middle easterners are looked down on from a racial perspective. It’s too surface level, but maybe it seems deep to a Japanese audience to even include it. To me it’s lazy as hell.
>>530690964>disagree about Ian and Arios, desuThey would be ok if they didn't get talked no jutsued in like 5mins by Lloyd. They're dogshit antagonists without any backbone. Gerard unironically felt like a breath of fresh air considering most kiseki villains were akshually "good" guys.
me? I self insert as roido
>>530690964Ignore him, the way he talks makes it seems like he plays cold steel and calvard with his brain turned off because he has a gag reflex to the 3D models
I think I decided to go ahead and play Daybreak 2. What do you guys recommend for builds? I think I might try to play it with Quatre as my healer. I don’t like him but maybe if I force myself to use him more in 2 then he’ll grow on me.
Jesus I want the costume DLC to put my male characters in the formalwear but the price is insane.
>>530690484The fact that you think the calvard stuff and cs stuff is the same shows you just didn’t give a shit about it and you stopped paying attention or reading. Surprised you still play this series if you hate it enough to not actually read the content
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>>530691662>What do you guys recommend for builds?pic related or skipping the game
>>530691662Just put Van, Agnes, Risette and Shizuna is the best combo. It's easy to break the game with Van alone tho.
>Jesus I want the costume DLC to put my male characters in the formalwear but the price is insaneYou can easily enable costumes by putting blank files into your dlc folder. DLC costumes are already in-game you don't even need creamapi
>>530691662>Jesus I want the costume DLC to put my male characters in the formalwear but the price is insane.nissy DLC is easy to pirate on PC
>>530691781The fact that you think it's not the same makes you a retarded brownoid cold shit eating subhuman
>>530692178nta buy if I was brown I'd objectively be a superior race to you in your shitty Calvard arc
>CS and Calvard politics are not the same argument:
>Also, calling Calvard like commoners vs nobles is an insult to Cold Steel. You had good nobles. You had Machias getting dunked on for hating all nobles. You had the argument for nobles made which was more than just "we are superior cause we nobles HURHURHUR", about the importance of embracing heritage and the importance for nobles to use their privilege for good.
>CS is like Calvard politics argument:
>"UR BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111"
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>>530691245I mean, to me it makes sense some of the white Calvardians are the racists.
>natives to their land and they feel their land is being overtaken>racism at its core is just xenophobia, or fear/hatred of different things, something Japan is very known forI don't know much about Japanese ethnic discourse, but to me it is silly that a mostly phenotypically homogenous country tries to talk about racism. To me it seems they did an about face regarding their racism towards Chinese and Koreans, where you probably have "intellectual" racists writing diatribes regarding why such peoples and cultures are inferior to them, and then they got nuked and the country changed and now it's just "racism bad." Or at the very least "we should tolerate people that aren't obnoxious even if they are foreigners."
At this point it's too late to want them to change this since it is a nearly 20 year old plot point and they wanted this to be the conflict that defined Calvard. To me, the best they could do would be showing some racist white leader and maybe the leader of an easter jaeger corps reach an understanding; they absolutely hate each other and each side has killed people belonging to the other side, whites learn about the struggles out east, the jaegers learn about the government struggles and displacement whites feel and they find some common ground.
To me adding racist Chinese/Heiyue fucks would just come off as some sort of /pol/ parody lol.
>>530691662the only times kuro 2 is challenging is when van isn't in the main party, here's my build
you can kinda spam s-crafts again with it due to delay quartz and the damage is insanse
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>be an enforcer
>You do not care about the plan.
>You do not have to obey the Anguis or Grandmaster.
>You can leave whenever you want.
>You might get some cool Artifact from the Grandmaster.
>You can fight against Ouroboros even when you are still a member.
>Grandmaster likes you anyway.
Why even be an Anguis at this point?
>>530692354Look at the way than anon talks you could for sure tell he has no media literacy. The issue is some fans think the games that don’t mention or reference star door 15 is shit because they are obsessed with rape and think it’s the deepest thing and can’t find anything else interesting. So when zero and azure reference that they think “kino”!!!! But when cold steel moves on from that they stop paying attention
>>530692613eat your tamale spic
>>530692635>I don't know much about Japanese ethnic discourseneither do i, however, I can say as a non-japanese person when playing on japanese servers, such as FFXI, which launched with japanese servers that non-japanese players eventually started their launch with... if you're not japanese you are subhuman trash. They would say things like "JP ONRY" and "NA too weak" among other things
Caveat, if you try to speak japanese they may actually like you. It seems respect goes a long way for japanese people
Another anecdote, Sega seems to obviously hate non-japanese servers and shuts down Phantasy Star Online (or PSU) servers early and also withholds updates/delays updates for them. Additionally in a similar vein on FFXI, bugs only got fixed if nips complained where NAs could complain for years and the bugs would never get fixed. Except if it's an NA exploiting a bug, then it gets fixed instantly. If nips exploited bugs it wouldn't get fixed.
>>530690760I wanted the Calvard that the previous arcs suggested. Unfortunately that does include the terrorists.
I wanted the Calvard where factions pulling for their interest causes lack of social cohesion. I wanted a Calvard WITH low social cohesion instead of Kumbaya land that's occasionally threatened by terrorists.
I wanted the Calvard where the revolution was morally gray, too. Where Gramheart winning on an anti-immigrant platform was not retconned because people on the ground had racial tensions that would naturally come from teh entire population of a region just crashing into yours whether you like it or not. But nah, das raycism.
Imagine if 3/4ths of Mexicans decided to cross the border because their country had a climate crisis... But if you complain you're a literal terrorist.
>>530692754Counterpoint: I have never seen an anime game broach the subject of rape with the restraint Trails has and have it be poignant too. Usually the Japanese make shit regarding rape more visceral and they just show a destroyed person that survived the event.
And nothing CS does is expounded upon that well.
You CSfags really are going on a crusade regarding why it's so deep because you discovered subtext this year or something. All the games have subtext, the difference is that you don't need to focus on just subtext to find the juicy bits, and that's clearly the case with Cold Steel.
>>530693385>I wanted the Calvard where the revolution was morally gray, tooI think calvardian revolution was barely touched upon in 3 games. Kuro 2 had Auguste, but he died like a bitch before explaining anything. We only know that revolution was built on "lies". It's fucking insane how we still barely know Calvardian history after 3 games.
>>530693385>Imagine if 3/4ths of Mexicans decided to cross the border because their country had a climate crisis... But if you complain you're a literal terrorist.Only evil people would complain that mexicans were in America because Mexico became uninhabitable.
>>530693385I can't take any of you seriously because of how hyperbolic and extreme you are. More than the already hyperbolic games.
There are literal terrorists and just chuds in Calvard.
>>530694278>look, a country just can all travel to another one and the other country just has to shut up, ok?Somehow, if I said all of Korea going into Japan, you'd sing a different song.
>>530694780>ugh, you wanting things to .. like.. be good! Just shut up and eat the slop like me OK?>>530693934Where does it say it's built on "lies" other than previous arcs? Auguste? Hardly a credible source
>mexico
Nice fanfic, but reality is funnier:
Americans moved into Roma and Condesa in Mexico City, middle-lower class areas that got gentrified and now have basically a lot of little cafes and shops with everything in English, and the displaced Mexicans had a bit of an unruly protest over that this weekend. There have been cases of racism in the areas too by foreigners, by the way.
Something like that could also happen in Tokyo, a city with a lot of foreigners trying to live there and ever-increasing living costs.
>>530693227Jp onry was a thing in FFXI because NA players were worse at the game for a very long time and didn’t take advantage of many of the gameplay mechanics. The language difference just solidified that divide. Things like reaching a camp and strategizing in the game required more communication than the auto translate feature could ever allow. It had nothing to do with racism or cultural differences, but it is interesting how people were so divided despite playing side by side.
>>530692635No xenophobia and racism usually comes from cultural stereotypes which are often true, or historical conflict such as regional/territorial disputes. Overcoming racism is about accepting the cultural differences and the fact that people are ultimately individuals.
To me it sounds like you are pretty unintelligent IRLZ, so it makes sense that you would be with the laughably childish racial commentary in Calvard arc. Because you think racism is as simple as hating someone for being different which is pretty much the extent to which Kiseki racism is explained
>To me adding racist Chinese/Heiyue fucks would just come off as some sort of /pol/ parody lol.That would actually be good, to outline perceived reasons for racism towards easterners, there could be extremist Easterners that were also racist towards the ethnic Calvardians. Anything to flesh out the cultural dispute would be good, because not all of us are simply as you, mentally. In the precious Trails titles, the perspective of different social classes is explored.
>>530696360>It had nothing to do with racism or cultural differencesplease don't pretend to be retarded, unless the one nip I made as a friend who spoke great english just lied to me, at least on my server (ragnarok) it was primarily racism and secondarily avoiding the retarded PS2 players. According to him only the AHs were fucked up on PC launch of NA. I started about a month ish after NA launch and can attest to how shit the consolefags were
I guess new players didnt know the value of gil and just fucked it all up which honestly understandable, it's not like they could have known
>>530696360>you're dumb because you disagree with me!And I'm simple minded? Look up the definition of irony; I hope you can parse it.
>>530696835NTA, but if you think that
>100% of racial tension in the world is white people who are racist based on nothing but white supremacyis an adult take, you are in fact a stupid person. Hope that helps.
>>530697104I never said that or even implied that, and the fact you think only whites hate others for looking different than they do says more about you.
>>530695371You'd have to be a sack of shit to let a country die because of your selfishness.
I don't look forward to games tackling racial tension because a lot of times it's surface level shit like "poor immigrants gets bullied by le racist assholes" while not even attempting to talk about or show what changes immigration causes on a country's culture or politics
japan is so good at xenophobia they practically invented it
>>530697309I don't. You know what does? Trails
>>530696835Well sorry but you are simple minded if you are reducing japanese views on different types of foreigners to “theyre xenophobic or racist” and you’re making my argument for me. There’s always a context to these cultural disputes such as historical conflict and grudges between groups, or racial stereotypes, or media propaganda. But we can’t find anything like that in kiseki’s racial commentary, so it shouldn’t even be explored. I’m against racism but if you think it’s ever as simple as disliking someone for looking different, then you are objectively retarded.
>>530697309Why the fuck are you mad at people who are calling bullshit on how Trails portrays the situation then?
why do they love eggnes so much
>>530698517>icon>legendhuh? she doesnt do shit before muh reset
>>530698517imagine hatsuu reading this and seething
>>530698517Hate it when westerners use pop culture lines when talking about jrpg character it just feels off and forced
>>530697975You are objectively retarded if you think racism is the direct result of stereotypes and cultural differences. You don't know anything about biology. Humans are primates. We make sense of the world hierarchically and that translates to: you look like me so you're good, you don't look like me so you're bad. You're putting the cart before the horse; stereotypes and cultural differences are used to supplant the real reason which is simply and intrinsic. Just like how it is intrinsic that most men like pussies and boobs and most women like dicks and balls.
>>530698812haha not the first time
>>530699409Oh yea this is the post that pissed her off. She even called Elaine a “lead character” shows how much she knows the game she works on
What if the reason hatsuu stop editing after daybreak 1 is because she hated Agnes, but NISA's higher ups and marketing team were Agnesfags?
>>530699490likes are easy to do since its non-committal
it looks a lot better for elaine that it does for cucknes but who really gives a shit about xitter?
>>530699614If that’s true then Agnes is the best character ever for shutting out that hag
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In Trails from Daybreak, both Kilika Rouran and the boutique NPC are canonically female characters voiced by real life transgender voice actors (men who identify as women). Also, the term “spill the tea” is used by multiple main characters in the English script, and the main conflict of the story is caused by white supremacists funding Almata.
Has Trails gone woke in your opinion?
>>530700089>Also, the term “spill the tea” is used by multiple main characters in the English scriptwhats the significance of this?
also its not falcums fault that NISA disrespects the source material and humanity at large
>>530700089idk, is that really any more or less woke than 4 games of blatant fujo lovers and multiple girls that schlick to it? i mean it is literally gay smut
Also, been meaning to point out how often "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" is used in Reverie.
>>530700089NISA has gotten worse at casting and hired mostly novices for their cast. Howard wang as Aaron and Fennoy as bergsrd was a few of the experienced VAs for at least a decade. But yea NISA started more DEI and hired vas that barely sound like women to play women characters. Those vas barely get roles anyways so you don’t have to worry about hating them in a lot of jrpgs
>>530700089>spill the teathat's a common expression raj
why would Van end up with Elaine when she is always a huge bitch to him? In a realistic scenario Van just ends up with Agnes because she’s nice to him which would trump Elaine’s childhood friend advantage. She still fumbles the ball with her rudeness, nobody would wife her and put up with her cruel outbursts, besides a beta cuck.
>>530700492God this image is based falcom had soul before calvard where they reduced the fanservice to appeal to the west
>>530700653i dont think i've ever heard anyone say it IRL (i'm an amerifat that lived on the west coast)
but it's meaning is somewhat easy to understand at a glance
>hiring new voice actors is bad
>they have to hire the same 10 voice actors every anime used for the past 20 years
>>530700807There’s a bigger pool of voice actors but NISA chose to hire some vas that don’t even sound like women.
Please Falcom bring him back as a playable character in a future Ys game like you did with bringing back Geis in Ys 7. Hummel is too cool to just be a one-and-done character.
>>530700807nobody said that, tranny
>>530700749I've only heard girls saying it somewhat ironically.
>>530701016>vas that don’t sound like womenBecause they’re not. Theyre literally trannies. different vocal chords
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>>530701360Yea I know I was stating why they weren’t the best options for Kilika voice
>>530700702>the westThe west has an age gap fetish?
>>530701587the only way to tolerate it is to pretend kilika is canonically a tranny ingame, because it is impossible to pretend that voice is remotely female. honestly with how many weirdos there are in kiseki, this solution is ok.
>>530701801it does but its illegal now
>>530700662>why would Van end up with Elaine when she is always a huge bitch to him?not after kuro 1, but the reason is because elaine is the only one van has showed romantic attraction, but even then you can argue it's him feeling guilty after he dumped her like that
point is we don't fucking know what van actually thinks about other girls and romance in general due to muh deemuns and falcom needing him to be a blank state in case of harem
>In a realistic scenario Van just ends up with Agnes because she’s nice to him which would trump Elaine’s childhood friend advantagevan already rejected agnes, but he still views her as someone extremely important to him, kondo said that the heroine "race" isn't over yet so we'll see
>She still fumbles the ball with her rudeness, nobody would wife her and put up with her cruel outbursts, besides a beta cuck.elaine isn't really rude, she puts on tough act but she's really soft inside and wouldn't want anything more than just to be with van, agnes on the other hand is the opposite, she appears soft and kind but she's actually really stubborn and hot headed, did you only play the first game?
>>530701801Besides that falcom did reduce a lot of the tropes and stuff that people didn’t like about cold steel. The Pervy lesbian, the harem(this could change in Kai 2), accidental boob on face. Like I don’t think calvard arc will have beach mini game date simulator or magical girl lol
>>530700492>idk, is that really any more or less woke than 4 games of blatant fujo lovers and multiple girls that schlick to it? i mean it is literally gay smutcold shitters don't like when you point that out, anon...
>>530701801I mean westerners loved the kawakami and joker romance in p5 but hate ohya so it’s not necessarily the gap but more so the personality. People like Agnes because she has more screen time than Elaine and you get to see her go from a quiet but determined girl to a determined girl who will not take shit from people especially if they insult her husbando. Plus westerners have played like 10 games of this shit in reality the van and Agnes doesn’t faze people any more than the agate tita stuff. It’s just tourists complaining that are in sunk cost
If desertification happened and a mass exodus happened like that, it would be a massively destabilising event, it could cause the outright collapse of the host country. In a world like Zemuria Calvard would be begging for everyone else to take a few to lighten the burden
But then I remembered that immigrants are magic people who have never committed an evil act and are better than white people at everything
>mare hijacks Yume
>How can she do that?!
>She just can, lmao
Riveting. Impeccable writing.
>>530702174>The Pervy lesbiangood, i fucking hated angelica shit, but i fear this garbage character might return in kai 2 because she and gayorg were foreshadowed
>accidental boob on facewhat are you a fucking middle schooler? you want the same shitty trope repeated in each game? you already had Judith flashing her boobs to Van and the strip club scene which are unironically the highest viewed kiseki videos, it has like million views on cginferno channel
>>530702925I’m just stating that falcom did reduce the stuff some westerners didn’t like to answer the other anons question. I didn’t comment on whether it was good or bad
>>530702174>accidental boob on face.Kekaroo.
Judith's entire character is being walking gooner bait. What are you talking about?
They should kill off Feri. It’s too late to convince anyone to care about her, she has no back story it seems besides being related to Kasim. Might as well kill her and give Agnes and Van some character motivation as a reward for players putting up with her for 2 games.
>>530702694The only country that could maybe host them is Liberl. Crossbell is barely getting back on its feet, leaving them in Erebonia would cause another war and Calvard is the most powerful and rich country in Zemuria.
Nice to know you like immigrants that much, but personally I like Van and Agnes more than any immigrants introduced, like Feri or Shizuna.
>>530703123Yea but I’m saying more people in west would prefer a confident women(not high schooler) showing cleavage than the high schoolers getting a bit of lucky ero
>>530703297>kasim, formerly known as the strongest
>>530703061>I’m just stating that falcom did reduce the stuff some westerners didn’t like to answer the other anons questionThen I kneel to falcom. Because what you listed were a fucking dogshit tropes for baby's first jrpg. I'm glad falcom is doubling down on the age gap romance, you know the only thing that truly matters.
The pervy lesbian is fine as long as the most of straight girls react creeped out. iirc the weird thing about angelica was her playing mama bear to everyone and the girls being fine with it. some would be, most wouldn’t. Yes I’m thinking too hard about this
>>530703297Feri is cute and has made me laugh the most after Agnes, so I don't want her gone.
>>530702689>westerners loved the kawakamiReminder that she was, and prolly still is, a whore.
>>530703123imagine the smell...
>>530703638I don't outright HATE Angelica like most Youtubers, but if she was gone I would not complain one bit or miss her.
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>>530704061I just found her really annoying, playing all cold steel games back to back only made me hate her and this arc even more. I wish Gayorg fucking killed her.
>>530703638My biggest issue with her is that she was a fucking retard.
>>530704495gayorg isnt fat enough in this pic
>>530704495Well he's killing her tight noble pussy, if you know what I mean, haha...
Angelica was less annoying than Musse
>>530703379you know i'm being sarcastic, but I don't think that immigrants are morally perfect supermen who are good at everything. Trails does.
>>530703638No, the problem with Angelica is that she isn't groping enough tiddies like Shirley.
>>530704021Nasty ass bitch.
Do any Crossbell arc characters even appear in Daybreak 1 or 2? Or is it just Sky and Cold Steel cameos
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>>530705081Nah.
I don't like anything regarding Juzelith de Cayene and her galaxy brain bullshit, but even with her relentless flirting she is more fun as a character than Angelica.
>>530705397the fuck are chinks smoking again
>>530705971Rixia, Cao. You can see Xin in Kuro 1 ending.
In Kai there's Jona Sacred cameo he contacts Van at the final chapter and updates him grim sharten instead of Altina. Van also knows Tio. You'll also see Lloyd's uncle in Anchorville.
>>530705971Elie's dad is from Calvard so I am guessing she will eventually appear with the OG 4 of the SSS.
>>530700089I don't really care if trannies voice act as women.
>>530700089Only retards use eng dub. That's why they get the cheapest shitters around.
>>530705081Angelica only redeeming quality is her master quartz.
>>530705081Musse doesn't even come close to how annoying Angelica is. You can put Musse in her place fairly easy, if Rean wasn't a faggot and started showing her who's in control she'd turn into docile little slut.
>>530707597He kinda does that in once scene in cs4 in pantagruel
>>530707597fucking whore i'm about to give you what you want, so why not smile a little?
>>530707597Got the full image set of these?
Rixia isn't in Daybreak. Yin from Trails from Zero is.
>>530703638The problem with Angelica is not her trope but where the trope is being used. Her trope is the whole senior that dresses in the guys uniform and flirts with the girls and calling them”koneko Chan” and having a harem. This trope character would be like 17 to 18 years old flirting with 15-17 year olds. The problem with how cold steel does it is that you have students like fie and Millium who are 13-15 so when Angelica flirts with them or talks about raising them to be her ideal mate it then sounds super sus than what the trope is supposed to be. It even goes beyond that when her 21 or 20 year old self hits in tita, a character people remember as little tita from sky. Angelica is a trope that’s used in a different setting then where the setting is usually is. It doesn’t help that most westerners that play trails or jrpgs don’t watch a high variety of anime or sometimes they don’t even watch anime at all which is weird to me why they pick up these games in the first place
>>530708416Zane is in Daybreak, Zin died in the war
>>530708939>don’t even watch anime at all which is weird to me why they pick up these games in the first placeusually being recommended sky as some of the goat rpg lists. then get sucked into being a franchise fan because it has a fleshed out world map/history like middle earth/game of thrones etc., although that is becoming less coherent in the current arc in my opinion. lack of effort
>>530709649Fair point I’ll admit. I never thought about the sky recommendation that’s a good point. I always assumed all tourists only started jrpgs because of ff7 lol that’s like one of the most famous gateway jrpgs if im not mistaken
>>530707597Exactly she's the kind of girl to act tough and dominate until you raise your voice a little or grab her butt then she becomes completely obedient to everything you say.
>>530708939The I don't like anime or Japanese stuff but still plays tons of JRPGs pipeline I will never understand.
>>530708142https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130466386
>>530710309Dam it don’t have piv account. Any other site in right find these. Appreciate you linking regardless
>>530708939Get outta here tourist.
>>530710569lol I don’t have a problem with it I’m just explaining why people might have a problem with her. I won’t play these games if this stuff bothers me I came into these games knowing what I got into unlike tourists
>>530710309Pixiv Musse bro is the goat
>>530710220It starts from ff7. And people expect all the games to be like that. Now it’s going to be expecting jrpgs to be like expedition 33. Ff7 is a gateway jrpg. Sky also has hella “cringy” anime jokes but tourists brush it off because there’s a female lead who’s more agressive and sassy due to xseed liberties
>>530710220yeah, i also noticed that people complain about Agnes x Van and the age gap romance in general a lot more after Kuro, meanwhile Rean x Altina doesn't get as much hate and controversy. r/fagcom had a crash out over headpats again...
>>530710963Rean and altina is an optional choice plus it wasn’t really a romantic bonding event just more so Rean is happy altina could have those emotions. The whole father daughter narrative is there as well due to denial that Altina can be sexualized by falcom and fandom.
Van and Agnes and Agnes crush is more displayed in the story itself and could possibly be canon
>>530710402no he's only on pixiv, make an account it's pretty easy, otherwise you'll be missing out on a lot of kiseki coom
>>530711223Forgot to mention Rean and altina could change in Kai 2 but for now it’s tame and altina is more vague and doesn’t talk about it a lot even though it is kinda obvious she sees Rean as someone more than a friend or teammate
>>5307113614chan here gives a lot of coom from character models with modded outfits plus ai anon and gelbooru gives decent stuff. But yea I heard good things about piviv. I recently started using kenomo which didn’t need an account to view images
>>530711223Yeah you're probably right. Agnes is literally pushed by the main story, while tourists pretend that Altina is daughter coded. No wonder these fags hate Agnes so much.
>>530710569>Masked crow>Needed an entire gay sequence to get him back>Masked Angelica>Just bonk her, lmao. lol
lmao
>>530710905You’re living in 2005 if you think new gamers are still getting introduced to JRPGs from FF7 in best of lists. Zoomers will not play FF7-9, they are too hideous to look at even with an open mind.
>>530710905>FF7Ah, yes. The 30 year old game.
>>530711535pixiv is 99.9% japanese fanarts and ai (but you can easily disable ai art in settings), danbooru and gelbooru mostly repost art from pixiv, kemono is good for art that is locked behind the paywall
it's also pretty easy to ask for the request in there
>>530712208I’m talking about the older people that play trails when I’m talking about ff7 gateway
>>530712376Poor van. He will die of aids.
>>530712208Good amount of the tourists are older white people so ff7 could align but regardless good amount of these tourists want games to be like that, a less “weeb animefied” game
>>530712208Maybe persona 5 is the new gateway jrpg for modern audience since 2016-2024? Or has it changed to expedition 33?
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>>530711960Oh you thought we are done with the masks? No we got more for you.
>>530713130>We just copied the masks from that one conflict, haha>Only one though>And gave it to this girl!I'm clapping so hard.
>>530712698is that even true? I don’t know anyone older than a millennial who got are into Kiseki, and even they are much too young to have gotten into JRPGs through FFVII.
>>530712867Yeah it probably can’t be overstated how big of a gateway JRPG Persona 5 was. I would assume it also led some people to Cold Steel specifically too.
A lot of Nintendo users probably were introduced to the genre from Fire Emblem Three Houses as well, also with a school/social system iirc so it could be another game that could easily lead people to find Cold Steel.
>>530712208>Zoomers will not play FF7-9my friends young zoomer nephew played FF7 after playing FF7R and
he liked the original better
>>530713817Persona 5 has qualities about it that tourists would hate like the harem and the age gap romance options and futaba. That’s why I said ff7. Ff7 doesn’t have the “school setting” and it has less of the cringy anime tropes that tourists hate that’s why I’m suggesting ff7 or any final fantasy is a gateway game for the TOURISTS specifically. The conversation that led to this topic was about me being surprised a good amount of Jrpg players that play trails are unfamiliar with these tropes or choose to play these games despite absolutely abhorring it
>>530710963I am very curious on if Estelle x Joshua will get hate with the new game once people find out they are step siblings or if it will get brushed off because Estelle is a strong character.
>>530711223>>530711714This is something that is often over looked. How much can the audience lie and head cannon things. People will bend over backwards to make things not true to the point where they wont get mad at the thing unless the plot is to blunt or someone tells them to be mad. Its like recently when people got mad at Gura came back with a new loli model as an indie. There were tons of outrage for her long time donors even who kept saying crazy shit like how they assume she was forced to by hololive to be a loli and hated it or that every girl would pick and oneesan model if they wanted too but are forced not to.
FF7 > falcom
Also, FF8 was one of the first RPGs with a military academy setting.
>>530714549>because Estelle is a strong character.kek
>>530712867Persona is hard to say because al the games sell way less then people think. Persona is full of people who just like the characters and art and never play the game more then any fandom and its why it manages to be worse then trails still.
>>530715437She is not support and combat and wins fights is what I mean. The kind of people who will say Nezuko is a strong well written character because she fights more.
>>530715315This is why I don’t interact with persona fandom no Reddit no discord no 4chan not twitter(i don’t use twitter anyways). The persona games are much more fun without interacting with that fandom at all
>>530715487It's the same for Kiseki. Trophy and achievement data is similar.
>>530714061>played FF7 because of RemakeDoesn’t count.
Who would win, Thors or Balamb
>>530715731>playing 100% of the game after playing 1/5th of the game doesnt counthmm...
>>530715487True, persona fandom is a larger number of tourists and players so the fanbase of course will naturally be worse because there’s more haters. I’m really curious what atlus Japan or west intend to do with persona 4 rewind. What kinda changes they will keep or change. I don’t mind too much because I will always have golden to enjoy but it’s interesting to see what scale will atlus change shit
>>530714549Estelle is the genki girl trope. She talks back to people she’s athletic and she doesn’t take shit from people. She’s the type of character that feminists and tourists would like. The fact that xseed added extra spunk and sass to her helps appeal to them. It’s going to be interesting to see how tourists and Sky fans will react to gungho Estelle since they aren’t using xseed script
People are more likely to check P5 and this probably going to piss people off, but what VII was to Gen X and Millennials is what P5 is to zoomers and gen alpha. You are also forgetting that anime is way more ubiquitous, no longer literally demonized and more socially acceptable. Hell in the current year if someone wants to play a JRPG that isn't very anime they'll get recommended Expedition 33.
I don't think zoomers and gen alpha are really going to bat much of an eye at some of the more Japanese persona shit; the anime they watch isn't limited to just shounen or magical girls anymore.
>>530715893I assume they wont do much with persona 4 because persona 3 remake was still the normal amount of things changes compared to 5. Persona 6 will be the real tell.
>>530715768FF characters are God killers, no one in Kiseki has anything on them. Put another way, Kiseki vs FF is like pitting Hunter x Hunter characters (Kiseki) vs Naruto/DBZ/Bleach characters (FF).
>>530715648I feel like that's going to be a big complaint about Estelle unless she's rebalanced for First to be an offensive character. Her main use in the original games was Earth Wall and spamming a skill literally called Motivate. I might be forgetting something, but does Estelle even have a fight where you can say that she was a significant part of the win? I feel like the closest might be the Loewe fight in FC that you don't have to win.
>>530716542This is true yes. This is the good of humanity and the fact that most people don't actually care about stuff like that much and just like doing stuff they think is fun and cool. Everyone else is talking about the dark side of humanity. The people who are mad at everyone different then them. The zoomers who have been groomed into view everything as a culture war. The ones who view a famous person telling them something as law and hating it just because of that.
>>530716805Kiseki power scaling is fucking whack thoughbeit. You'll never know what will happen next. Van who "died" to fucking Hale of all people, potentially can be on mcburn's level via grendel or his demon.
>>530716805roido just has to yell really loud and he can kill a god
>>530717512He died to a bomb. It's not like he fought her.
>>530716805Azure Demiourgos and Great One Ishmelga are basically gods.
>>530716803I agree, I think they will change the nurse not hitting on protag though. Since they did a similar thing in p5 for those homosexual guys and ryuji. I’m curious if they will change the pageant scene though that one is a divisive one. I had no problems but I’m not sure if atlus considers that one problem
>>530684864Still funny they killed the ps4 version when there's still clearly a lot of people on PS4 as seen
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>>530717671It's still bullshit. He and Aaron died to some weak ass chink assassins and Ashen. The fact that Kondo unironically thinks that writers put all their effort into making all these dead ends believable gives me no hope for the future.
>>530716803Persona 4 is too controversial with Kanji, Naoto, and Hanako. Add in the potential for gay Yosuke and they could change a lot. At the very least they'll probably scrub stuff like Yosuke being afraid of Kanji because he thinks he's gay.
>>530715809He would’ve gotten filtered like all the other zoomies by the hideous graphics. Doesn’t count since he cheated by playing Remake first and already knew he’d like the characters.
>>530717530no wall is high for roido-san.
>>530717512>Potential manKek. Grendel or not he gets obliterated like a bitch.
>>530718253Those xiongwhatever guys felt pretty strong in Kuro 1.
>>530716805The balamb gang would get to the grandmaster and kill her in a single game, lol.
>>530718083a lot of people still see no reason to go from ps4 to ps5, this console generation is fucking sad and xbox is dead as a console
>>530718513van is a feika
>>530718083I would have bought it on PS4, but I have to buy it on Switch now. I can take solace that the Sky remake was designed for Switch but hopefully I can finish Calvard on PS4. The Switch 2 will probably run Kiseki fine, I can't imagine Falcom developing the next arc with the PS5 in mind.
>>530718287They might make it more vague but I dont think they will do anything exterme like make Kanji straight up gay or make Naoto Trans
>>530718287hanako and yosuke not being afraid of kanji I can see them changing. But how is kanji and naoto controversial theres nothing offensive about them?. loud minorities only are butthurt by them because they are not lgbtq its not offensive for a character to not be lgbtq
>>530718784No reason to switch to ps5 when most good games are still coming out for 4 including trails. also the human eye cant even tell the difference between 30 fps and 60
>>530719679>human eye cant even tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 It's this some poorfag cope?
>>530717512haha van needs a training arc
>Van in gameplay
Tankiest protagonist in the series
>Van in cutscene
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>>530719597You can't bring up Persona 4 without someone mentioning Kanji and Naoto, and how they're totally gay and trans. Because of western outcry, Royal changed the gay guys to pushy fashion people. The massive western outcry means that there are going to be changes to Kanji and Naoto's plotlines. Whether that's trying to make what they actually meant in the original more clear or buckling to western pressure.
>>530721279Van has jobbed less than Bean, thoughever
>>530722279He jobbed to fucking Halle of all people.
>>530722279Rean didn't die like 13 times.
>>530722478who knows... considering all the 19998 resets
>>530722279Rean didn't die multiple times on his own game.
>>530719474It literally negates their arc if they do that it makes no sense narrative wise. It changes the story of their palace completely and the point of overcoming the shadow. It’s ironic that the tourists are doing exactly what the shadows are suggesting to do when that’s not the point of the game
>>530722478There is a loop where Rean does lose to ishmelga loge or great one and the sin value isn’t that high so grand reset takes place later than 1209, and I think that’s risettes and Novartis’ loop
>>530723009Going into past loops makes it that everyone has probably died countless times.
>>530722279>thougheverWhy am I seeing shit like this more and more?
>>530721279He is assuming the position that describes what exactly the heroes and heroines are in this series: bitches. Bitches who are meant to be broken in by BOC (Big Ouroboros Cock).