MoP IS Classic
>>530226584
>>530249878>Lasted the entire threadLet's go for round 2 my Fellow World of Warcraft Classique posters
is healing fun in mop. have a shaman go enhance or resto?
>>530623578Her new video with the massive knot was awesome.
>>530624205>pubelessHorde wins again
>>530624205>>530624527why does horde have the hottest elf
>>530624527What is the green dwarf one supposed to be? Cause it can't be undead, not even the witch-bitch was THAT conserved
>>530625245Chinese undead. She got shat on for not doing her properly.
wow this thread really fell off
>>530626370heโs still around
>>530623578how is this on topic, you didnt even label it as BTC or something
>>530632978It is how it feels when you play moppy
Anal destruction
>retail this retail that retail retail retail
yeah...
>>530636237I saw people still dying to that towards the end of Wrath. classic players are a unique breed of stupidity. MoP might end up killing the game if only because ToT and SoO filter too many people.
>>530636516I died to the slow moving slimes last time in wrath nax
>>530636516wasn't it funny how the boomers that couldn't handle a challenge fled back to era once ulduar hit?
wotlk is pretty overrated if im being honest. it was the first time i actually got bored of wow classic and just went and played other things
>>530637639>the raidlog mess of TBC and late vanilla somehow wasn'tyou're just blinded by rage is all
wotlk sucks bad BUT all of the new abilities are cool. sigh what couldve been
what the FUCK is crybooming
>>530638336https://streamable.com/9tt97b
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https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali/clip/AmusedBlushingJellyfishWutFace-nPUBiTkn3FTYV6_Q
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>>530638539mark wouldve won with better crit rng
i'm planning on having a glut of free time around the end of the year. gonna need something to do. i heard TBC will be rolling around on anniversary realms. i'd like to be a draenei priest.
1: if i intend to do this, should i make a character now and start farming gold and such, or just buy it
2: will they let me boost a draenei? they didn't last time. are race changes a thing? leveling a priest now and then changing it later would work for me too.
3: leaning towards herb/alchemy, potion spec. MAYBE pick up tailoring if gold isn't an issue
4: male or female. normally i'd say female as i like the taffy pulling casting animation but male draenei look great in cloth
Why do some streamers/high level players have multiple classes of the same exact spec? Is it literally just for 2x loot RNG for weekly raids? That seems pointless
Also pvp players do the same thing
>>530623578>its actually staying upman anything goes as long as you don't mention skin huh
>>530639605i would just lvl a character and farm a little gold now, but i have no idea if they will let you race change or buy a boost
MOP SISSIES
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So I fight against monks in bgs and I have no idea what the fuck they do. They just roll around and spin at me. This normally wasnโt a problem until I killed myself by touch of karma. Do I really have to level one of these things to learn how to counter them or their most important spells? Nobody can give tldr?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/clX45jwAR34MG5gUxwTLdQ/
>wowg
jej
Mop got b-b-BTFO
Total Mop Death
cryniller already fudding in desperation
>>530645878Don't you get it? He's the epic 4chan troll. Imagine what his room looks like lmao
Since you deleted it, you gonna crack down on the evaders too?
>>530642424in all seriousness why would you want to mop after we had mop remix?
>>530639681'normal' wow players do that too, people are absolutely retarded and have broken brains (evidenced by this thread). I saw a comment yesterday by someone who bought gold, boosted 4 warriors and just raids with them every week, why the fuck would any sane person do that?
>>530650765thats not normal
nobody who has more than 2 characters is normal
Why do I see so many people in av with full hit dps gear boes (dsaur, black dragon and nightfall axe) and yet they have no parses? Why are the buying gold to buy this shit and not even using it?
Will brewmasters be poppin in MoP classic?
Don't care about raiding just doing some heroic dungs with randumbs while drinking beers during the weekend.
>>530652123yeah they'll be good
how comparable is the AB tabard rep grind in classic compared to r14? I know queues will be the main problem but I just want to get started
>>530650597Who is "we" ...?
>>530651897Because they can, poorfag
>>530651897Why would people with money grind raids like poors instead of playing the actual fun part of wow - pvp?
>10k gold per character for clearing tbc raids
Blizzy is gonna nerf this soon right?
>>530671037you stupid mongrel. You don't want leather and gear with no stamina for pvp. Nightfall (1k) vs the unstoppable force, hello?
>M-muh monies gibs me advantages over poor 3rdies
Get rekt noobs, nothing beats pure skill and immigrant mentality
>>530672731-my cock.
That's why it is the best expansion.
>>530676573why do you make up demons and then post about them? Who are you talking about here exactly, is it a specific post or something? If you want to bump the thread just post about what you're doing in game right now
>>530637968i think you might be projecting a bit here
Can't wait for Dragonflight classic bros
>>530681973no one played that trash when it was live what makes you think classic players are interested in it?
>>530682147Just wait 5 more years once they've done WoD and Legion classic
>>530682489progression servers end with mop
>>530682623Egregious corruption.
>12 hours to get to 60 posts
>MoP Classic is the highlight currently
Tells you all you need to know, kek.
>>530686372we all migrated to /wpsg/
>>530686496>turtle wonlovumes
Resubbing
what am I in for?
forget fop (furries of pandaria)
who is excited for tbc (tiny black cock) classic in winter 2025?
I realize I'm supposed to be MOP HYPED, but the more I play the more I think about playing on Anni and getting ready for TBC. I guess I'll see how I feel once MoP drops.
I'd actually forgotten how retaily MoP was, simply because Legion onward was just that bad.
I'm having a lot of fun but it's weird how unsocial people seem in this game. I'm new to MMOs so maybe this is just how it is but I'll chat to randoms near me all the time I don't think I've been responded to once. Even the most basic small talk
>a bunch of randoms sprinting around one area to do a kill quest as they spawn. "crowded here huh", complete silence
>see lone mage my level, ask him if he wants my mana potion, complete silence
>wave at people turning in the same quest as me, completely ignored
>comment on how this zone is pretty looking while near like 6 diffierent people, complete silence
>type in /1 about one the quests that I've seen like 5 people come by and do. Nothing
Is /s just bugged or is talking to randoms a faux pas? Is this just an EU thing? Are NA servers more talkative. Even a simple "hi" to a passing person is met with not even a blank stare
>>530682623>Retail/Modern WoW (with my Mists of Pandaria characters)NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>530682623wotlk or an earlier xpac with my mop characters?
qrd
>>530706030Both are shit desu. Get into lifting weights or something. Nuwow (all versions) is permanently cooked.
whats good dps in twilight dungeons. How am i doing 60k dps when my other party members are doing 30k. Feels like a fun server
>>530708178No, no one talks anymore, since all incentive structures have prioritized killing the larger World(of Warcraft) for (cross-servered)instances.
Everything became transactional, as if the pixels are somehow worth losing the larger game.
Retail mindset.
>>530713132I'll ride the short lived release hype as usual.
>>530713246I'm not playing them, but generally pre-patches aren't balanced for low levels at all. Think how some specs destroy low level dungeons compared to others, it's the same principal.
>Two level 85 boosts 0 desire to play MoP
What's a fun DPS class with high APM and high damage?
>>530671980SSC and Sunwell agree impossible to solo tho.
Enhance shaman or frost dk for both high end pvp and pve. I head dks suck this expac and enhance is strong
>>530720032All dk specs are great now due to mastery affecting soul reaper and obliterate damage.
>>530721072How does mastery effect frost DK soul reaper?
>blizzard be like, we need to make controversial changes that alienate our old time playerbase to appeal to new players
>make it so that you have to grind for 200 hours to deal damage
friendly reminder the pajeets bobby kottick put in charge of blizzard are some of the most amazingly retarded people on this planet and that MOP aswell as classic+ and everything they will ever create is DOA.
is there a way to pirate the restedxp addon? enjoyed the 1-20 brain off mode, but fuck paying $25 for the rest
>>530722216>make it so that you have to grind for 200 hours to deal damageYou don't have to do the R14 grind. It's all self-imposed bullshit. Ask yourself if wasting your time doing something you absolutely loathe is even worth it. The only people winning are the ones that aren't playing this shittier, sweatier version of 2019.
>>530724223go to the /vg/ archives and search 'restedxp free' and you'll find something in like 30-60 seconds
>>530725514can you please spoonfeed me one step further? i must be looking in the wrong place because the archives either don't have /vg/ or don't have search enabled
>>530726720https://arch.b4k.dev/
>>530726720I'm in a better mood now you're just gonna search it, see someone saying "google ownedcore restedxp" and be led to this link:
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/wow-classic/wow-classic-guides/974853-r-st-dxp-era-classic-retail.html
>>530721976I don't know what this response is supposed to mean.
>>530708178if you want to chat, join /4, the LFG channel. it's a global chat channel and at least on my server it's always active with conversation. although admittedly, it's rarely related to the game. that or find a social guild.
hardcore might also be more up your alley if you're looking specifically for spontaneous interactions in the world. that kind of stuff is fairly dead in MoP, most people are on autopilot just trying to grind shit out.
/r/ing a Grobbulus census
>>530726917i remember this guide being on a website. does that version still exist?
>100 posts in 2 days
>40 of them are a latinx mop furfag degenerate samefagging themselves
lmao
I play hardcore cause I wanna enjoy the told 2005 feeling of the game. Couldnโt even imagine being a raid logger or panda
>>530708178You pretty much have to play hardcore to get interactions like that, itโs basically an RP server with a brutal punishment, but literally every example you have here would have a social response on hardcore, itโs kind of way i levelled so many characters to the 20-high 30 range
>log on my mage>make water for everyone leaving the current inn Iโm at>on priest and pala Iโll run around saving people >on hunter and warrior I RP mercenary and rent my services for x per quest + my hunter obviously, hunts, then makes big feasts at the inn that I share with passerbys with some ale >on my rogue Iโll literally hang around a chest for an hour just to wait for someone to clear the camp to get it, and Iโll steal if from them Donโt have too good of an RP on lock shamy or Druid yet
>>530734604>no one doing wpvp, corpse runs or running dungeonsjust like 2005
>>530735972The only good wpvp is pre-ranking phases on a fresh server
Obviously a fresh vanilla server > everything else. But we donโt get those too often
Feeling the itch
1-4 MoP
5-8 wait for TBC still
9-0 Hardcore run
>>530734604I enjoy the vanilla experience and raidlogging for different reasons. I just alternate, when I get burnt out on one I go to the other. love having options.
Its 3 like Blizz said, why no AQ turn ins....wtf blizz
>>530736815>Obviously a fresh vanilla server > everything elseis that why it took anni 8 months to beat cata?
You ARE farming the bug mount for your GM/best friend, right? You're not doing it just to get on his good side so he maybe gives you badge of the swarmguard so you can be TBC ready, right?
What are some ways to make some gold in MoP prepatch rn? Preferably a method that does not rely on RNG too much.
>>530739170Go to Twilight Highlands and farm Embersilk Cloth
I forget the area, but it's packed with Humanoid Twilight's Hammer NPCs
>>530739170Run old raids. Bosses give lots of dosh.
>People getting thousands of gold killing old bosses
>Tokens are stuck at 12K because of this
Fuck me, they aren't gunna drop to 5K anymore, are they?
do I delete my level 50 orc warlock to keep the name and relevel it as a goblin or do I >buy a race swap? Or do I just accept the orc life?
>>530741121I ran Kara last night cause everyone is saying this, feel like I only made a few hundred gold. I'm assuming the 25m tbc raids drop more gold but I'm not very geared so idk how it will go, I might try Black Temple or something tonight though.
so far my most reliable method is selling gathering mats. I made close to 10k just levelling a character from 1-80 with herb and mining. intended to farm for my man's profs with him but the dosh is a nice bonus.
>"MoP was peak hunter it was the most fun hunter has been!"
>MM is boring still
>Surv is boring still
Literally what is the appeal to this class and if you tell me BM is the fun spec I will throttle you
>>530745202Mind "most fun" usually means "braindead spec that tops the DPS chart".
>>530745202Peoples definition of fun is topping the dps meter with the least effort.
I missed out on the boost from SoD whats the best way to level to 85?
why can't i give my pets korean names? do i need the kr client?
>>530713246Wow congrats for playing Surv Huntard bro
>>530741782Orc Warlocks is an obvious pick and somehow underrated. Stick to it and if you get really annoyed just race swap at max level if you really want to get worse racials I guess
>start doing pvp pet battles
>every brainlet running valk/idol/crawdad
got almost 60 wins today alone
>>530744360>there were actually millions and billions of people leveling in fresh source:my ass
Is the token going to crash on release?
>>530747972wait till you see my idol crawdad beetle team
easy turn 50 victory
>>530750524Doesn't seem like it, people are running old raids for massive amounts of gold per week. Every single TBC/WoTLK boss is dropping 250-400g ea.
>>530751154Shit can you solo all the tbc raids?!
>>530751607Most of them are piss easy at 85 with MoP talents.
>>530751607That's nu-WoW 101. Why do you think everybody has one DK alt?
>>530745202BM is literally the most fun spec tho. You machine gun arcane shots like itโs an fps
>>530747972its been 100 years but i remember doing the pvp battle cheevos when everyone was new to the mode so i could easily just abuse 3 mechanical squirrel teams to giga cheese everyone for ez wins
>>530749872Go jump off a bridge lunatic
>>530737748I donโt care that plebes follow streamers. Fresh vanilla slaps thereโs literally no version of the game that comes close to it
>>530752708You're probably right. Classic definitely gets worse every expac.
Hello I have a question. So, if the scarlet crusade are all about being anti undead, why are these guys undead? And if I'm undead, why am I killing them?
>>530747972Pet battles are cringe miss animer
>>530756143idk about cata and beyond but the Scarlet Crusade is a front of the Burning Legion. That's why Balnazzar, a dread lord, is the final boss of Strat Live
>>530756143think of them like the white supremacists on /pol/ that are actually latinos and indians.
real talk though, it's been awhile since I've done these quests, but iirc this is in the wake of the Lich King's forces slaughtering the Scarlets in the DK starting zone at the beginning of Wrath. then they get raised from the dead, but still cling to the crusade. presumably seeing themselves as abominations as opposed to the Forsaken who have embraced their undeath.
trying leveling demonology in prepatch and it's kinda boring
I'm level 70 and it feels like I only have three buttons to press. Everything dies before corruption does noticeable damage so it's just hand, shadow bolt and soulfire on molten core. Felguard does a lot of fucking damage.
Maybe I should try Aff or Destro.
>>530747245Orc warlocks are extremely overrated AND stupid, GulโDan was a warlock. Thatโs about it. Only his cultist followers should be warlocks. The rest of the orcs H A T E warlocks for destroying their home and putting them into the situation they were after the war pre-Kalimdor exodus. Only undead gnomes and human warlocks make any reasonable sense
>>530760002goblin warlocks make some sense
Goblins LOVE making deals. Deals with demons? Hell yeah.
>>530757327The truly turned to shit lorewise at wotlk
>>530639605any more feedback on this? i feel as if i'm missing something
>>530767472roll a hunter or mage for comfy leveling and gold farming
If you pick a mage be sure to check which race/sex can do the Slave Pens boost though because I played an undead female and couldn't so I just missed out on the best gold farm in tbc
>>530756143You are a part of the Forsaken, a faction of the Scourge (lead by Sylvanas) that are free from the control of the Litch King (The Burning Legions puppet that controls all of the undead in Azeroth, lore depending on the expansion)
All of the undead mobs that you see and fight in WoW are the mindless Scourge that invaded the Eastern Kingdoms in Wc3 with the help of Arthas and the Burning Legion.
The Scarlet Crusaders were a fanatical sect of humans so much so that they continue their zealotry even through undeath.
>>530767472put as much prep into it as you're willing to, it really depends how seriously you intend to take TBC and how much time you're willing to put into it. if you want to go hardcore, it would be advantageous to start with some gold and resources. at the same time, if you roll fresh with TBC I'm sure you will have no problem catching up and doing all the content if you're committed, you just might be a bit of a late starter and have to put in more effort compared to others.
we don't know yet if the boost will be applicable to new races, although fwiw the boost in MoP is available for Pandaren, so they might be more lenient going forward if that's any indication.
>>530766827meh, I don't think the Scarlet stuff is that bad, the idea of self-loathing undead is interesting enough. there's way worse stuff in the lore, the whole thing about the Scarlets being Burning Legion pawns for example is pretty bad.
>>530768008>race/sex can do slave pens boostwhat is this? i've never heard of a character's sex mattering before
Look what they did to our boy
>everyone said that MoP is the best xpac and everyone would be running back to Classic
>my friends list is dead like it's been since ICC still
>>530770748because mists doesn't git gud till throne of thunder
>>530769070model size matters
>>530768805Balnazzar only killed the crusades leader in besieged stratholme keep, and took his place.
There is no lore that says that the burning legion controled the whole scarlet crusade. If they didnt change this in later expansions/books
>>530761786Yeah i meant vanilla. Goblins are fine
Orc warlock makes as much sense as Draenei warlock
>>530771351>Balnazzar only killed the crusades leader in besieged stratholme keep, and took his placewasn't it also a big plot point in the Scarlet Onslaught story in Northrend? maybe I'm misremembering but I thought in Icecrown you also uncover a dreadlord pulling their strings
>>530770932MSV is pretty fun. I'm looking forward to watching people kill themselves on spirit kings.
>>530760002all the shamans became warlocks under the legion and when they freed themselves most of the shamans turned back but some didn't
and a lot are just shadow cult
>>530771641>>Orc warlock makes as much sense as Draenei warlockat least retoilet added eredar skins for Draenei to correct this
>>530770748there's not that much to do in prepatch to be fair
Fun fact:
The Scarlet Crusade and the Argent Dawn are the fractured Silver Hand order, after Uther and the other paladin leaders were killed by Arthas in wc3.
>>530770932>xhe didn't enjoy bamboozling LFR andies to kill themselves on elegion
>>530681020>shitty baitYeah these threads tend to be like that. Retoilets constantly convince themselves that everyone hates newer versions of the game because they're bad.
Usually the simplest answer is the right one, it's just a bad game.
>>530708773if thousands of scarab lords and corrupted ashbringers enter retail due to this the seethe would be eternal
>>530775476i changed my mind. i want it now
>>530772210As if everyone doesnโt know that?
>>53077547620 weeks of naxx40
1 corrupted ashbringer
it's not fucking fair bros, I'm still mad.
should add mythic+ to moppie
the xpack is already nuwow, so just add the one good thing nuwow did
Vanilla experts, is Azshara a good zone to grind in from 56-60? Most guides say Winterspring but the zone is being camped 24/7
>>530781628Why not EPL and get some AD rep while you're at it?
>>530781628are you a skinner? herbalist? are golden pearls worth anything?
>>530758379I am leveling survival hunter and, believe me, it is literally a joke of how much damage multi-shot does because of improved serpent sting. Itโs crazy dumb the sheer speed at which mobs die, especially if you have a monk tank or healer (windwalker does less damage lmao). Reminds me of lvl 11 fury warriors in time walking dungeons on retail.
>>530781905Playing a paladin on HC and WPL/EPL mobs hit very hard. Most areas here are also being farmed by mages and AOE Paladins. Questing here is also a bit difficult for the reasons mentioned above
>>530782051mining/bs
Legashi Satyrs are not a popular grind but the exp to TTK is decent thanks to exorcism. Just wanted to know if there was anything better. I just wanna get this guy to 60 asap so I can make a priest (main)
hunter alt. should i do herb/mining or skinning/one of those two?
>>530782310Azshara might not be bad for grinding because the mobs are low and you can sell felcloth
idk how the hc economy is though
>watching willE retrospective on sod
>the best feature was the vendor that lets you buy all the runes that you got from doing the whole "discovery" thing
>99% of the vid is about the shitty raids
fuck this playerbase, classic+ is going nowhere when this is what the playerbase wants most
>>530783791>>the best feature was the vendor that lets you buy all the runes that you got from doing the whole "discovery" thingto be fair a lot of the runes were fucking obnoxious to obtain, the "discovery" was a cool idea on paper but wasn't implemented well at all. and especially for things that fundamentally change how your class plays, nobody wants to jump through a bunch of hoops for that. again, having more secrets to discover is a great idea but tying it to player power was retarded, especially when they just weren't that fun to discover in the first place.
there are definitely problems with the playerbase and their expectations but SoD was also just poorly made, the devs have no idea how to develop content for vanilla anymore. the devs are also responsible for making those raids the only thing to do for weeks on end because they don't know how to make endgame content that isn't raiding. classic+ is going to be trash.
no one talking about bwl is a daily reset on anni for the next few days?
>>530783791>the playerbaseMostly retailers remain, yes. I've heard plenty of SoD enjoyers talk of playing current retail. Most of the OG fans bailed when they saw it was just repeating what happened last time. The few that remain on the regular classic realms, for lack of an alternative.
>>530784432i tried it initially and made it to lvl 25 then just quit, definitely didnt want to keep subbed for 8 months to get to experience the full lvling experience and most of the changes were just "make this character more OP" until every class was just pulling 10 mobs became standard lvling experience.
now that the whole thing is out and i see how they jumped the shark with power creep and raids being the main focus idk what else to expect from classic+. honestly i dont even have a dream classic+, maybe keeping the experience of vanilla mostly same but adding some extra dungeons and quests/small new areas to some neglected zones and then some of that SoD -esque "find a new ability" shit, i quite liked that and thought it was the standout feature.
third worlders thinking shitting up my game
which tbc raids are people soloing for gold?
>>530650765At least high level players have the excuse that they do split raids, even though split raiding would be grounds for a lobotomy in a functioning society.
>>530789129depends on class but all are soloable except sunwell
>>530784432>to be fair a lot of the runes were fucking obnoxious to obtaini thought it was cool. Having to do some arduous task to get a good skill is fine with me and it got people out in the world. I played p1/p2 and quit p3 though
>>530784432Vanilla endgame was always only raiding
If you want more play retail
>r13 enhance pvp only chad
>resto os for that sweet x3 SR
>triple bwl reset, maybe I'll try bwl (never done it)
>I don't need anything except the head from nef which it too contested to bother with
Disappointed to say the least
>>530790976>alwaysthe entire game in vanilla was leveling, dungeons and battlegrounds. Only a tiny % of people even got to 60 and even less raided once. Why you such a little rat lying for no reason?
>>530791259Except it was only raids. There are a handful of useful items from dungeons and they just get outclassed by later raids
BGs are worthless if you aren't going for high ranks
Leveling was just filler to milk and extra month out of new players before they quit
>but people who literally didnt login didnt raid!That doesnt change what the endgame was
>>530791649>being autistic maybe that was the endgame on paper but the game didnt really play that way. for the vast majority of players 'endgame' was just whatever you wanted it to be
>>530792115The game did play that way, dungeons were worthless and raids were everything
>for the majority of playersLiteral children do not change game design. Raids were the endgame, kids being dumb doesnt change that.if you want to not actually play the game and not actually progress you can do the same shit in SoD, same shit in retail and same shit in every single MMO and wander aimlessly if you want, nobody does because they aren't 12 anymore.
>a few streamers and zerg guilds thought they could get ahead of the curve for le bug mount and clear the first 2 bosses of BWL before broodlord head quest becomes available, allowing them to get summoned to quest giver then summoned back to raid to kill and loot
>lo and behold! they are locked to a raid ID where the head won't drop because the raid ID was generated before quest became available
>beg daddy blizzard to have BWL reset daily for rest of the week
>blizzard caves
Typical. Now the question is whether the zerg guilds and streamers thought their clever little plan to save 10 minutes would work, or if this was all part of their game of 3d chess so more of the officers could complete the quest and get le bug mount.
>>530793026yes we're not 12 anymore but you said vanilla, which was 20 years ago. People didnt buy the game and think "damn i need to hit 60 so i can play the endgame"
Why are classic "players" like this
>>530793134who cares? when i see someone ridin' bug i just think theyre pathetic and know they dont have sex
>>530793187What children think doesnt change the game design
You level up, you raid, thats the goal. People who weren't children and came from other MMOs understood that
Raiding is the vanilla endgame, fullstop. If you want more retail is there
>>530793310Because the trend of blizzard bending over backwards for streamers and zerg guilds needs to end.
>>530793672I have only done zg/ony in anni a handful of times and i play all the time
>>530793134I don't understand why they just didn't integrate the SOD change. They handed everyone rank 14 but this is apparently too much.
In SOD they let the gong be exposed for 2 weeks after the gates were opened and the invasion minions gave rep so you wouldn't need to farm bugs.
>>530793672What children think doesn't matter, what you think doesn't matter, only what the developers thought matters and the developers never intended for "endgame" to be the sole goal of a player. Raiding is only technically the endgame because players decided that raiding is the endgame. One could even argue that PvP or solo farming with BiS gear is the real "endgame".
If you just want to run raids go play an instant level cap pserver with free preraid gear in your bags on character creation.
>>530794003Raiding is the endgame because it is where the highest level of rewards are. Players didnt decide that the game devs did
>solo farmingDoes not have better rewards
>pvpRewards are outclassed by raid loot, never mind that the nature of the vanilla pvp system makes r14 untennable for most characters which makes the rewards for pvp even worse
>>530793272typical alliance coomer
>>530794305youre stuck in parsing number mindset lilbro and your failure to understand any different viewpoint is a clear sign of autism
>>530794994there is no viewpoint or mindset, objectively the best gear and hardest content is all in raids, Naxx specifically. That makes it the end of the game. this isnt a player opinion, this is a fact of the game design
Youve sunk 20 years of your worthless life into one of the most shallow video games ever created and youre desperate to avoid the fact that it was an extremely shallow and linear vertical progression game
>your lives are worthlessand the game is shallow
Okay my guy, sorry i wont give you a (You) but its time for you to go to bed
>>530795914>no argumentof course
>we should give arguments on how our lives arent worthless and how the game isnt shallow for some reason
>>530796102normally people would dispute that but I guess you cant LMAO
just an hero and save your parents the hassle
He is arguing with the world
And he thinks his life has meaning from speedrunning raids in a 20 year old game made for prepubescent teens playing on 56k modems.
>>530795594>i've been subbed for 20 years>i even raidlot of assumptions there bud. i play wow because its fun, when i'm bored i'll play something else
Look, he is having a meltie
>>530795594>trying to act superior to anyone when his life is clearly devoid of the attention he craves so he posts stupid arguments in /wowcg) for repliesnot a good look
>>530797008>I play WoWevidently not
>>530797003I dont play shitnilla because its a bad game, nice cope though
still not an argument
>BWL literally has daily resets now
Legit lvl 255 funserver territory.
>>530788859>can't recognize german >thinks he's not a 3rd worlder
>>530798224All because some streamers and zerg guilds thought they could cheat in their race to get the cockroach mount lmao
>>530798803ESL on EU servers is auto 3w status. of course i know what language it is lmao
>literally oneshotted a rogue with triple wf, hoj and darkmoon card while i was 2%hp
based basedface moment
how do activate the pet bar in moppy? its just not there
>>530800598Hunter pets are just bugged as all hell. The pet bar is there on warlock.
>>530801305im a donkey kong and my ghoul is just afk lol
>>530800598go into your spellbook, to the pet tab, and drag a spell out, the pet bar will appear and you can drag stuff to it.
>>530799303>99% of EU is 3wok globohomo
I can't fucking sleep
Patch 5.1 for World of Warcraft was released on November 27, 2012
My screenshot suggests that cross-realm outdoor content was with the release of MoP, for the screenshot was taken 6 weeks before 5.1
Did Blizzard forget? Or are they going to try and milk us all for server transfers STILL?
I wanna make a forum post about it but I'm perma'd
>>530801684I was obviously implying that speaking non English in a 40 man av is retarded but you've clearly shown your esl brain on this one
>>530801793it was with mop release, yeah.
at this point they should just merge everything into two mega-servers honestly.
>>530802591>globohomo thinks speaking your native tongue is badclearly you're just mad your native non-english tongue isn't popular enough in gaming circles, mohammed
>>530802891its more the fact that at least half of the 40 people cant understand what youre saying you autistic retard. I reckon youre, POLISH
>>530802776>they should just merge everything into two mega-serversThey cornered themselves with the mono-faction PvP servers, they'll hate a merge into a server with actual PvP.
>>530803318dont really care if some redditroons don't understand what im saying, i take every opportunity to chat up my countrymen in global chat, globohomos seething is just bonus.
>>530803441just introduce war mode and merge into a single server, fuck it
>>530803958That's probably the best option and what they're doing for Classic+. They tried (again) to "force" people to do wpvp with SoD and anni and they failed (again) since people just switch layers until they find one dominated by their faction. People just don't like PvP.
>>530804120>they failedworld pvp is alive and well on anni? why do autists live in this black and white world. i dont even have a layerswap addon
>>530804330>my own personal experience is all the reality, you autistsI'll tell you to get some self-awareness, but you literally can't.
>>530801613thanks bra that worked
>>530804484i just killed 5 60s while getting my 4 herbs for +100hp in fellfood 5 mins ago
>>530805365>more anecdotal evidenceThanks for proving my point, I guess.
>>530805586>you tell me it doesnt exist>i tell you it existed 5 minutes ago???
>>530805997How would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?
>>530806250i fast until lunchtime
>>530806250Idk I've never not had breakfast so I don't know how that would feel
>>530806250But i had breakfeast
good idea to have both herbing and mining on the same character in MoP or no? more shit to loot seems good but the time you spend mining is time you could have spent herbing so perhaps it's not even better? maybe having a crafting profession instead of mining for example would be more value
>>530784432warlock runes that require you to spend 160% of your max hp as a sacrifice then fight a demon were really cool
except for the part where it was buggy as shit and frequently just wouldn't work
>lmao you losers still haven't figured out the meta glyph yet it's very hidden>uh are you sure this isn't just bugged>we can confirm it is not bugged you guys are just idiots>it was bugged>it was also incredibly easy to find literally just a quest chain you get after doing a quest everyone would have done if it had worked
>>530810368why must you post like this? Tranny chasing is pathetic even if its ironic
>>530810956Tranny chasing is thread culture doe
from an enhance shaman purely pvp anni perspective do i want +18 spell damage or +30 ap on my shoulders? shocks are how i kill when i'm not windfurying but 30 seems like a big number
>>530814996imagine being this mentally ill as a 30+ year old man
>30+ years old
>plays classic worlo
So everyone here?
>>530815508yes exactly except we're posting asinine shit for whatever reason you do
>>530816657thats because you have severe mental illness. no one here cares about game population wars, except you. Which as a 30+ year old man is pathetic behavior
I don't play osrs nor worlo btw, so I win.
>>530816912in that case when i meant severe i actually meant completely insane. why are you here posting about it then lilbro, need someone to talk to?
gym brapper vods and clips were deleted
you're a whore javela
>>530818734its probably him who spams it all the time
Remember when people hyped up MoP like it was gonna save Classic
How the fuck did the game go from fighting iconic characters with significant Warcraft lore implications like Kel'Thuzad, Illidan, Arthas or Neltharion to dude lmao China pandering with Pandas n shiet ?
>>530821070>>530819692This is how low this general has gone. We are discussing MoP on wowCG
>>530638336A "cryboomer" is a pejorative term used online, often in gaming communities, to dismiss or criticize someone who is perceived as complaining or being overly nostalgic about older versions of a game, or about changes in a game that they dislike.
It's a combination of "cry" (implying complaining or whining) and "boomer" (referencing the Baby Boomer generation, often used colloquially to describe someone who is out of touch, old-fashioned, or resistant to change). So, a "cryboomer" is essentially someone who is seen as an "old-school" player who complains excessively about how things are now.
>>530636516>MoP might end up killing the game if only because ToT and SoO filter too many people.cata was more popular than anniversary. the filtering happened long ago. cata players will do just fine in MOP.
>>530676573>Get rekt noobs, nothing beats pure skill and immigrant mentalityso it's just jeets left on anniversary now? makes sense.
>>530823515After Mythic raiding gets introduced by the end of MoP it will be over though.
>>530823759Jeets have never played wow. It's iranians and Singapore etc. jeets do online scamming instead
>>530756143Those are technically part of the "Risen". Scarlet Crusaders killed and raised by Balnazzar
>>530823774Mythic raiding only happens in MoP during WoD prepatch and it makes SoO easier
>>530804120>>530804484>They tried (again) to "force" people to do wpvp with SoD and anni and they failed>my own personal experience is all the reality, you autists>I'll tell you to get some self-awarenessCould tell you the same thing. On my server in SoD (Crusader Strike EU) there was a ton of world pvp. STV, BRM and AQ were all crazy during their respective events. And I haven't even participated in all of them personally, people posted tons of screenshots. Horde dominated but sometimes the Alliance would gather together and drive them back and then hold all of the best spots. It was great.
>>530819692Remember when people joked about how people would unironically be excited for MoP classic in 2019
>>530793672Why does there have to be a goal? If anything the goal is building up your character, raiding is just a means to that end. Also originally MMORPGs were played by actual roleplayers, just people using a video game to chill and have fun(though probably mostly to jerk off with other men)
>>530828049>in SoDIt kinda worked for SoD due the low amount of layers. I doesn't work for Anni. Again, Blizz have the raw data and there's a reason why they're already abandoning the system.
>SoD
the first phase of SoD was the best time i'd had in an mmo since wotlk.
>my class was powerful but no guff from being a healer
>darnassus was a hub for the first time
>using low level consumables
>BFD was a fun little raid, Akumai was a cute boss
>the crafting quest finding the big light crystal in the mountains
>helping people crack rune quests
I have it on good authority that they will not be making any changes to TBC. This includes the most sought after change, raidwide lust/and or sated debuff.
>>530837705need a role for the raid leader's gf to play
>>530837821It's going to be tough finding so many resto shamans, people were making them left and right because it was a braindead easy way to get GDKP handouts.
>>530837659eles sham in wsg in p1 sod was one of my favourite wow moments of all time
>>530835254>already abandoning the systembut it's still in place on anni and it's not going away. What are you taking about?
>>530837705>raidwide lust/sated>SoM xp and mob leash nerfs to kill carries/boostingDo we really need anything else?
>>530837821I thought the raid leader's gf plays spriest, not shaman
>>530838621I had a warlock buddy who lost his guilds first and only phase 3 skull of gul'dan to a shadow priest. The argument was that she hadn't gotten anything all phase and that she was due for something. Mind you this chick was a fucking green parser and already had gotten 4P before a couple of the warlocks did.
>>530838609Classic+ and doing jack for MoP. Get with the times, old man.
>>530839212shadow priests enable parsefaggotry is why
I just wish I could xfer from hardcore to nightslayer instead of being forced to play on pve
>>530835254>>530838609how many layers are there on anni?
What happened with warlock tanking in MoP? Was it just a meme? I saw Glyph of Demon Hunting but did it end up being a nothingbuger? Can you even set yourself as a tank in LFG?
>>530840254you can't queue as a tank. but i remember in the original mop having a warlock tank for me. they suck at snap aggro but a rogue or hunter can help with that
Can someone wise tell me where closest the mailbox is? I'm horde and I don't want to hearthstone back to undercity then fly for 10 minutes back to burning steppes. The iron dwarves didn't seem to have a single one
>>530841495kargath has one iirc
>>530840084>how many layers are there on anni?They're dynamic but there's usually 4-6 minimum (like 4AM) which lead to a lot of disgusting layer hopping shenanigans.
>>530843372layering just fucks world pvp events, right?
>>530692797where is he? last epoch hype video 2 months ago.
>>530840084>how many layers are there on anni?more than one which makes it retoilet.
>>530844550Layers fuck with everything. Want to farm? Better layer hop. Leveling record? Better hop layers. Ran out of mobs during normal leveling? Layer hop. A guy from the oposite faction higher level than you? Layer hop. Two guys of the enemy faction? Layer hop. Gay addon detects an enemy rogue? Just layer hop. Might as well play retail at that point.
>cryboomer bwl run goes bad, he dies and half the raid wipes
>viewer asks him if he ''whippered'' (using whipper root to heal himself)
>cryboom spergs out tells viewer to commit suidice irl
>nukes the vod
>to this day if you say the word ''whipper'' in his chat you will get banned
> <Eternal> World record video drops
>has clip of our cryboomer telling a viewer ''kys irl''
>dali contacts the uploader begging to remove it
>gets removed
LMAO, lol even.
https://streamable.com/yyrena
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>>530846061https://clips.twitch.tv/SquareRichLEDMcaT-y_t17DrEUd6G59sF
what is a cryboom?
>>530846272>what is a cryboom?'niller, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
If I play solo self found, how quickly will I regret my decision?
>>530846013Don't forget you go to the random vendors and then layer hop
>>530846013>Layers fuck with everything.yes, that's why classic isn't even an mmo, sadly. sorry, but the original idea was having everyone in the same persistent game world, instead of having everyone in their own lobbies. it literally ruins the definition of MMOs. otherwise, there shouldn't be "realms" to begin with, and just do universal layering, but again, this isn't an MMO. it's counterstrike.
>>530846562>noooo but if my server has less than 2000 people that means it's DEAD even if that's what real vanilla servers capped out around, we NEED the megaservers!
>>530846272post the other times he's said it too
>>530846562It could work if the system were better, like layers affecting just small areas packed with player and you couldn't just hop layers at will, but right now their system is too exploitable. And, as usual with Blizzard, if you don't abuse their flawed system it puts you at a disadvantage, whole shit sucks.
>MoP prepatch
>not popping off
>>530846741>we NEED the megaservers!not what i said, was it?
i can be specific. what you want are reasonable-sized servers on one layer, up to ~10k players. but not much in excess to that as all open world locations become way too contested. but going down to 500 players per faction is also acceptable and better than layering.
server merges are also better than layering. it might be okay as a 0-1 months solution but blizzard has chosen to never make it go away, which isn't ideal for community and immersion.
>>530851556I'm sorry I didn't meme to greentext my post
>>530847234>it could work if the system were betterthey could just use phasing where needed which is a circa 2010 technology for blizzard. i agree that there is a place for layering in early zones on any decent pop server, but beyond that it's just not necessary.
blizzard has adopted the laziest of all solutions with megaservers AND layering. understandable from an admin perspective, worst option for the players. as per usual.
>vortex pinnacle at dusk
Kino. I wish the game had a faster day/night cycle
>>530851081>raidlogsthe only thing they have left
>>530857536Looks pretty cool.
>>530822736i'm just asking a question
>>530852036>blizzard has adopted the laziest of all solutions with megaservers AND layeringI'd do the same, Classic and Anni cucks will gobble anything so why bother? Nobody in the current dev team cares about WoW and the shareholders are happy with the short term profit.
>>530846428self found is the only real way to play HC. I had a lot of fun till about level 38 but then playing super safe just go so tedious
>>530855145I remember when it was actually dark at fucking night. Still annoyed they changed it
>>530860482>classic and anni cucksas apposed to retail chads? Out of the bunch anni players are the only people I would ever want to talk to irl
>>530861215>retail>chadsGood one.
The only "chads" here were the SoD dads and it's over.
Both anniversary and Mists, if I want my dick sucked more, do I just run tank
>>530861750Is that a pic of you, a reddit meme pretending to laugh while dead inside? It checks.
>>530840574maybe I'll just buy the glyph start queuing and just announce that I'm the tank.
Might be funny
What would happen if I resubbed and started a warrior on an anniversary server?
>>530862071Hunter and keeping lw/skinning up to date with my level (kino)
>>530867697Who doesn't hate the frog? Outside Reddit, normalfags and social media aficionados, I mean.
>hey anon MOP prepatch just dropped for classic didnt you say MOP has the best PVP?
>sayless.jpg
>still mad they moved my vanilla main to the burning shit pile expac
>roll disc priest
>"NA east"
>right back in the saddle gy camping you in wsg like i never left
>get purple tacospeak dm during wsg
>no thanks i mow my own lawn
>jaja
>jaja
>jaja
>check world chat
>jaja
>jaja
Did all the mental patients stop pretending to be women and start pretending to be mexican? Either way this arena season is going to be free as fuck. The ones who dont get deported mid season have shit ping.
>>530869152if you spoke espanish youd know they are still pretending to be women
>>530867697i remember everyone posting this guy back in 2013
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is there like an addon to autoblock fence hoppers?
I hit 85
what do I do for catchup gear?
>>530869152>country collapsing into a sea of mexicans >"great, this children entertainment is going to be easy!"Do Americans really...
am I a cuck for farming bugs 24/7 for an entire week just so my guild master gets his scarab lord mount while I get shit all?
>>530872387did you ask him if you could get the second bug mountie at least?
>>530872387do you like the dude and is it entertaining? if either one is yes, then sure
>>530871218buy 377 pvp blues on the AH and reforge them, or run heroics if you're broke. then queue for twilight heroics.
I wouldn't put too much effort into it though since it's going to be replaced pretty quickly with MoP anyway
>>530871469Live a charmed life of no responsibility or stress in the mcmansion your dad threw his back out building for me. While a high-end cocktail of pharmaceuticals suppresses the memory of the now ruined horse pen we had to keep your siblings in before they finally agreed to leave?
Yes.
It was the smell you see, nothing in the world stinks like you people. I'll never forget it.
>>530873295The dumbest thing is the Theramore scenario requires ilvl, the pre-expansion catch-up event. Was it like this in original Cata? I can't remember. Actually retarded.
>that instant 45k kill command and pet bite 20k right on top of each other on a magie
Pure kino. You know it hit when they donโt release for a couple seconds
Addon fags, question. Can i use the existing chat filters in wow to write an addon to auto block all non english? maybe some other key phrases too
I want to at least get all of the non en-us keyboards and accent marks. should be easy. I'll post it somewhere funny once its working for some entertainment.
>>530876381On eu you can occasionally see a guild ad in trade chat in a balkan language or some other and no one gives a fuck.
On na you see a non english post in trade chat and everyones jimmies get rustled. Why are mutts so racist?
>>530877101>you can occasionally seeThis is why. There are basically "dedicated" ESL servers that they collectively chose and chat becomes monopolized by that.
I remember retail Illidan became Chinatown. It was LITERALLY unusable with the addon.
user_x88yxqt0zy1xa5fo Has had what we needed the whole time. works like a charm too literally ICE for wow. A true gentleman and scholar.
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>>530882542Without, rather.
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Welp, SoD is officially in its death throes.
>>530884849It is. A shame, I wouldn't mind raidlog SE a month or two more but MoP release its going to kill it for good.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXSi_9xDQCM
Home.. was it ever real bros..
>>530851081>all those rets
>>530884849doesnt it have the same pop as era?
>>530891094that's what he's saying yeah, it's dead
>>530891094No, it's arguably worse. There are no more bots supplying people with mats and consumes.
So this is enough to get flagged for a mute on the battlenet forums.
Forums are full of trolls and gdkp shills (gdkp discussion is banned btw) but I call blizzard out for pandering to streamers and cop a flag. Lmao.
>>530898249>only a muteCriticizing out streamer overlords should be a banable offense. Hardware ban, unlike botting.
>>530898249Next time dont use "fucked up" for tone
>>530890704Holy fuck this is unbearable.
>dude what if I put text on the screen only for special setences like I'm quoting Milton >"It's peace" while talking about mario and mom calling you down for spaghetti diner (not exaggerating)I like video essays about video games but it doesn't get more pretentious and retarded when people use it as a platform for somber surface level underage tier scripted musings.
But what can you expect with a title like that, even intentionally keeping the "I" lower case like it's meant to seem more earnest that way. This is masterbatory nostalgia wank at it's worst: basically a woe is me blogpost but framed around a video game. I can't imagine actually enjoying a video like this, maybe 13 year old me browsed reddit he would've liked it
>"I didn't want nostalgia, I wanted the feeling of nostalgia">comparing wow feeling different to family events feeling different>"ughhhh people get... older. WoW.... also gets older. But... memories of me not old playing not old wow... forever"Please kys, I want my 6 minutes back
>faker thought he was the best mid laner going in to the tournament
interesting
SOMEONE ON NIGHTSLAYER HAVING A MELTIE OVER BEING CALLED A RETARD HES DELETING ALL THE MATS FOR THE WAR EFFORT. NO AQ40 BROS.
https://www.twitch.tv/raztoki
https://www.twitch.tv/raztoki
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Live streaming himself deleting thousands of mats that wouldve been turned in for the war effort to open aq40 gates!
>>530904516Kek. What a retard.
>>530890704>>530903789Actually I take it back, donโt kys. I actually hope you link other videos in this genre of content even though this one happened to stink. Itโs fine if you like it or relate to whatโs being said, there was no need for me to be so mean to you good night
>>530904516why did he get called a retard?
>>530905503So it was trumps fault
Mutts are retarded
>>530905503ok yeah thats pretty retarded
>>530904761>>530905437>>530905628>>530905657Turns out the megafaggot constanza had his hand in this. If you know this guy he's a massive turbofaggot.
Hey guys professional gamer SalvDali here! Recklessness! Poggers! Let's go! Excuse me while I deepthroat this corndog on stream!
>glug glug glug
>hehe it's funny cause it's like a cock haha!
Remember, do not mention whippers in my chat boys! It makes me angry!
https://streamable.com/yyrena
No one is clicking on that
>>530906693I clicked on that, what are you some kind of newfag that doesn't see embeds? lmao.
>calls others newfag
>uses reddit-approved addonslop
ngmi
>>530905503Can't believe these dolts exist. The third worlders are going to eat their lunch so quick.
>>530906383>that picNot escaping the e-bf allegations any time soon.
I might just say fuck TBC and play Last Epoch.
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are class trainers bugged in the starting zones? i cant learn spells
horde or alliance for anni? whats the faction balance on the megaservers?
>>530909918pretty 50/50 on nightslayer. if ur oce come ally otherwise either
>>530910101NA. leaning towards PVE. i'm not afraid of pvp servers but i don't have the time to put up with being ganked. i know its actually rarer than people say it is but its still annoying
>>530909394in MoP you learn spells automatically
>>530911492>learn spells automatically
>>530911492yeah, the rxp guide (which is labeled mop) just thought different and confused me
>>530904516good news anni sisters, now you have more time to grind out bug mounts for your gm! get to it
his channel got banned or soemthing lol
>>530913224Write that one more time, we didnt read it the last 100 times you wrote it.
can you really tank twin emps with a single warlock? if so, how?
>>530915673Presumably use your pet to tank one away from you. Probably demo with a felguard? Just guessing.
>>530857536Kara chess event? What about it?
can a fresh 85 prot pal solo tbc raids or do you need ds gear
>>530918996generally you want to be ret except for the last few bosses of bt
illidan will probably just kill you solo though
kael is much easier as ret
Jekliks crusher proc any good in pvp (enhance sham) ? I love the way it looks and apparently I can proc of anything including itself
never played a monk. so the gimmick of this class is rogue but you can wield a 2h? i always felt this class has a shitty and weird class identity.
they shadow buffed resilience by another 15% in pvp. Why did they stop posting changes. Also i heard they stealth nerfed a bunch of classes like hpal and surv hunter
>>530925523surv feels like trash
i feel a lot better in marks
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why dis nigga outside his lair
>>530926414You are playing a niggered version of the game
>>530928330i am
but the bigger question is why that nigga had 10 times the hp of any regular enemy.
i couldnt solo it at appropriate level and had to wait for this random other player in full heirlooms to come by to have a chance, really fucking weird
>>530671980nah they've agreed that the gold economy in a video game is slop not worth preserving since the WoD expansion, and we already have WoD style boosts.
Transmog runs will be BiS for MoP and passably decent in WoD/Legion.
all mage specs feel like shit to level
which feels least shit?
>flask of titans because I'll be pvping in av all day for insane honour
>actually get hate messages from my own faction for flasking
180g isn't much for 2 hours of fun. What's their problem
>>530926414Because in Cata's Azeroth everything must be placed conveniently so leveling is optimized and max level is reached asap.
>>530624527>once the blood elf joined the horde they became this roughThis is why you keep seeing belf poppin out of nonwhere,their women became breeding cows and their males became testosterone machines, they learned from the orcs in order to survive.
>>530937432>replying to your own post from days ago because you're a coomer retard
>YouTube is cracking down on low effort slop and react channels
Oh no no no no bros what will shitvix whozu and gigaboo do now? will they actually have to....play a game?
i want to scrape off a blood elf females red toenail polish with my teeth
>>530939585says who? their little TOS updated mentioned nothing specific as to what kind of channels they would crack down on, besides obvious spam. nothing that brings in 100s of thousands of views is getting cracked down on. it's all about ad performance quality as that's the only "objective" quality benchmark they have.
blood elves are the only women to take care of their feet
you just know all other races have stinky crusty soles
>>530941346>undead girl jokes "I'd paint my toe nails, but I don't know where they fell off"
giving everyone free r14 was a MISTAKE
>>530942351its almost like they thought they did, but they didnt
>>530941346Elves have naturally perfect feet.
>>530939585I don't know either of these channels. You know that if you watch slop you get recommended slop?
>>530922621No one cares about cool pvp meme weapons? I'll have to try it myself then
>I just paid someone 900g to make an ony group from scratch and hr the head for me because I couldn't be bothered
gold buying has broken me but I can't ever go back
>>530934728Arcane for dungeon spam Frost for soloing. Frost becomes decent for dungeons in WotLK some time, you can swap and test. You need crit gear for Fire.
>>530950359>destroying the game for everyone for the smallest sliver of convenienceWalking in Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard's footsteps I see. Those are well worn.
>>530954173If blizzard banned bots I wouldn't be buying gold for x10 the price and would either farm or just be poor. Cant blame me. Every single player that 'parses' is buying gold for consumes/world buffs
>>530954552>NMPWe love our declining trust, don't we folks. Embrace the schadenfreude because we're special, and they're not. #Biwinning
>>530955143well yes. If you had a first world job you'd understand. ยฃ10 is really nothing but 1k in game is hours of farming. That said, im not proud of the ony head and only usually buy gold for epic riding and twinks
/wowcg/ how can you tell if your guildies actually like you? How do you tell if when they talk shit its just ''banter'' or they are actually ripping on you cause they dont like you?
>join voice chat
>no one greets me
>they greet others
>often get shit talk my way when i bring it up ''its just banter man!''
>no one whispers me ingame or dms me in discord
>feel like i could dissapear never log back in and no one would notice
im just a young autist that doesnt know how to socialize well, i just want frends!
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>Nightslayer US Horde
>Pic related
When the fuck did this become normal?
>>530961528It's pretty normal for a guild to rest 1-2 items if they are pugging people.
>>530961409if you have to ask, people probably arent too crazy about you
>>530962229the good news is these people are not your friends the same way coworkers or sportsteam players are not your friends or family so they ultimately dont matter
>>530962431>the good news is these people are not your friends the same way coworkers or sportsteam players are not your friends or familyUm...about that....I dont have any of that.
enhance shaman is so fucking fun. In the same game a full pve bis (with hand of rag) enhance was just running north when he couldve been oneshotting people like me, weirdo
>>530961409I bet you are so insufferable honestly. I don't even have a guild because why would I have e friends
>>530963805Thats kinda mean but ok.
got someone to make their name "die(you)"
if I resub will someone play with me?
>>530967121are you a cute girl?
>>530967528Use your imagination.
>>530967945i can do that without involving you already. what do you bring to the table?
>>530968056Playing World of Warcraft.
Anyone know what the plan is with the BWL reset reverting at 7 eastern today? Does that mean I can run a BWL before hand and still be on the daily reset so I can run another one tomorrow or Monday? Or will the lockout get extended
>>530968113again i could play worlo by myself. are you fun to talk to? will you be buying lots of gold to twink our characters out?
>>530971264>will you be buying lots of gold
I caved and started a solo self found hunter. Played a little over an hour and hit 8. It was pretty comfy. I'm sure I'm gonna go crazy over my lack of bag space. I bought a 6 slot bag with silver I had saved up because I really felt like I needed it. Bought a bow upgrade from a vendor. Took skinning/lw and now I have to pick between vendoring my stuff and leveling LW. Kinda nice.
>>530976564It seems so, I was in the middle of a dungeon wtf
>>530976701Was just about to finish my run reeee
Where the FUCK are my servers
I was just executing murozond
>>530976701How did all servers go offline lmao, oh Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard. Servers have been dog ass since they became dynamic cloud shit or whatever. I remember it first being terrible in BFA.
Surely they will reimburse my sub, right?
Right?
>>530974382Did you died?>
>>530977490No. I was about to get on but if blizzard's servers are being shitty I might play hardcore later and just level my warlock for MoP
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How does he do it? They've literally never achieved anything, the GM/MT is terrible at the game, how does he have a cult-like following?
>was farming some retard with a sunflower stall team
>server shutdown
nyoooo
>rogue-only since 2019 classic
>stopped playing for cata
>coming back because I loved mop
>mained WW for the whole expansion and beyond
>dont have the drive to level up from 1
>everyone and their mother probably(?) playing WW anyway
Do I rogue or WW bros? I'm horrible at choices like this
>>530983679last census i took had monk being the number 1 class being played and it was double the second highest
What the F*CK is going on with these nigger servers
One week until MoP expansion release?
You, are not prepared.
is she coming back for mop? tbc? epoch?
>>530984197For the first few days there, every group was (You) and 4 monks. Not nearly as bad at higher levels, and everyone has multiple alts this go-around.
>>530984617Who is this snowbunny?
>>530984981How do you know she skis?
>>530984981it's a bbcsnowbunny
Not looking good, Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard.
Still no Invincible or Mim's Head...
>>530984997so we're on Faerlina lads? Or is /ourthread/ stuck on Grob to be big fish small pond?
>>530983679Who drew this?
>>530984997We're all on Mankrik doe
>>530986247I shan't be playing PvE. I'm sure you understand.
I've been leveling on Pagle and haven't seen any beanerspeak in LFG or trade chat. I don't care if it has a smaller population Bene this is a huge upgrade
>>530986345It's that or be stuck on dead Grob with 1k people. The massive PVP servers are monofaction.
>>530986345"""pvp"""""" servers are 99.1% faction A and 0.01% faction B, they're in fact pve servers as well
>>530986519>>530986540Surely the numbers will increase with mop
Surely
Are horde shammies still going to get sucked off if they heal in TBC like in vanilla?
>>530986601The only hipsters that roll on the other side of monofaction are arena kids that can gear without others.
>no servers currently available
???????
>>530986973They're not prepared
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Hilarious how Era is poppin off again.
The amount of retards tying to "correct the record" on every Blizz narrative in the forums now is hilarious.
Reminds me of the spastic that spammed here. Wonder what they pay.
I just want to do pet battles man ...
>>530987717Just go look at them. There's endless "formerly green-tier" posters arguing for every stupid Blizz decision, and attacking anyone questioning them, often personally.
i still have an 85 boost from soddy but i dont want to use it on
>Mop is fucking dead
Apologize to Sneedvun
>Another hour added to maintenance
>>530990291>maintenanceMore like fixing the catastrophic failure that just occurred
>>530990291Some ms pajeet broke the servers
I absolutely love how they can call this a "scheduled" maintenance lmao, just schedule it 5 mins before shutdown, fuck em
Retarded anime shitposting
>watch documentary slop on youtube
>it's about pumpers and trannies
lmao, just like my 'nilla
https://youtu.be/dCydPd_lbyE
>>530977004>dog assdog is a made up streamer safe insult word. Cringe for using it
>>530991436It's almost 12am on a Saturday. You should be having sex instead of playing wow
>>530993851BRUDDA JOKERD COMING, NO?
Classic or Cata Classic for casual play?
I played bit of classic when wotlk was launching, went up to level 50 then quit
I like how it takes a long time to level up unlike retail
Which one is better for a casual guy who plays like 1-2 hours per day?
>>530984997I'm back on Grobb
Having played retail, Demonology warlock just feels kind of incomplete in MoP right now. Is it gonna get better at 90 or is it literally just an extra cooldown?
>>530994120depends how much you want to get done. mists has a lot more QoL and things to do at endgame but its nothing you can't do on retail
>>530993923>ORLANDOCOMING
>LMGDCOMING
>BLACKPALADINCOMING
>>530993773I don't care what your e-bf says, I've been saying dog shit forever. The last time I regularly watched tw*ch you could say straight-up slurs on it.
>>530993913Its fucking almost 01am Sunday, how does it feel when superior europeans from the future talk to you mutts?
>>530993923>>530994567streamers are stand in friends for lonely pathetic men
>>530994387Problem with demo is until it went full on minion summoning, it had no identity. The transform gimmick/imp swarm/hand of Gul'Dan was just a bandaid and never really worked
>>530994391oh I forgot MoP classic is coming soon
Is it worth to make a new char on Cata Classic now or wait for MoP to drop if it changes anything?
>>530994947we're in prepatch already so only thing that will change on the 21st is Pandaria opens up and level cap raises to 90. so you may as well get a head start now if you want. levelling is pretty quick right now, not as fast as retail but faster than previous versions of classic, you can probably knock out a decent chunk before MoP launch even if you only play casually.
>>530994738no cap? sheesh
>>530994947you already missed cata. mop sucks for leveling up a new character. talent points every 15 levels... what a fucking joke. idk if blizzard knew this at the time, but people enjoy spending talents every level as a reward for leveling up. lol, retards.
>>530961409Don't feel too down. I get it, it can be hard to make connections with people, trying to find that elusive middle ground of "interacting enough to not be boring but not being annoying". Being likeable doesn't come easily to everyone but you're in luck, anon, you don't have to tolerate this case. Leave the guild and join another one and try again.
>>530996381by the time of MoP, Blizzard wasn't putting any thought into the levelling process except how to make it faster so people could spend less time in it, they were developing solely for endgame.
>SoD officially dead
>Anniversary beyond shit and going to nosedive within a month
>MoP is absolute garbage, even with the boost
I never thought I'd see it happen. They were right, the only thing that could kill WoW was Wow itself. Maybe they'll have some info for us about Classic+ in August at Gamescom. Guess I'm unsubbing for the next 6-8 months till TBC.
What is more difficult - heroic raiding in MoP or in TWW?
>>530997329maybe ask the retail thread retard
is it worth playing monk if I have no expectations of raiding and just want a fun class i've never tried? or should I just make my main for the 100th time?
>>530997329Usually raiding gets progressively harder for the encounter autists, so CE Mythic in retail will be. Also why they're backporting Great Value M+ to Classic. They're addicts to their playstyle and can't enjoy anything else.
>>530996381> people enjoy spending talents every level as a reward for leveling up. lol, retards.Yes, thatโs why they gave you literally everything built in while leveling, retard.
>level 30 warrior in vanilla: literally 3 keybinds >level 30 warrior in mop: 21 keybinds
>>530994740I meant pm but I'm drunk so say sorry
>>530997960Sure, monks have a lot going on so if you like the playstyle it will never get boring.
>>530994740whiter than you mutthamed.
Is there even a skeleton dev team left for MoP? How is it even buggier than Cata?
Are the NPCs to rename demons in Cata/mop?
>>530961409my 10 man group during WOTLK had a lot of banter, most of it was in good nature and I had a really good time there. but there was one guy who over time the banter directed at him became more and more mean spirited until it became clear that people genuinely didn't like him. the group eventually split because the larger guild imploded and pulled everybody in different directions, and the 10 man ended with basically everybody ganging up on this poor guy. he didn't really do anything wrong, he just made himself an easy target for people's frustration if that makes sense.
I ended up being the one guy he felt he could confide in cause I tried to stay out of the drama, and he basically told me he thought it was just friendly bants the whole time and was blindsided that people actually disliked him. although it was pretty obvious from the outside.
anyway, if you feel like you are that person, I hate to say it but you probably are. don't take it personally and just look for another group. as other anon said, it's hard to form connections, especially with a bunch of internet strangers who you don't really know. I've had groups with amazing social chemistry, I've had groups full of tension, and I've had groups where people barely socialize at all. you just gotta keep trying until you find somewhere you fit in.
>>530997329I have AOTC on every MoP raid and I can tell you that Retail is a million times harder than anything MoP classic can offer
>>530998726The muttoid seethes as he larps as a non immigrant white man
playing hunter on vanilla
Do I want both bite and claw on my cat pet? Is one better than the other, or will my pet run out of focus if I use both?
>>531002114You should probably bind the lower dmg one of the two and selectively use it while the other is on cd.
That way you have better control of pets focus. But idk, i dont play huntard.
>>530998416>Yes, thatโs why they gave you literally everything built in while leveling, retard.that's not what RPG/MMORPG players enjouy enjoy, mr. dunning kruger. the proof is in the pudding, as boomers like myself like to say. they did this because it makes it easier to balance for niche end-game situations, while throwing out the baby with the bath water on a core genre mechanic.
this is why blizzard went back to not just having talent trees, but having POE-style non-linear very complex talent trees in current. and by "went back," i mean they helped pioneer this concept to begin with during games like Diablo 2 and.... drumroll.... The World of Warcraft.
this is how you know you are objectively wrong and desperately trying to cope. blizzard not only reverted but drastically improved upon the concept of having choice while leveling, as opposed to nothing like they thought would be a good idea for MoP.
here is why i prefer having talent trees, as opposed to being handed chores of learning new spells while leveling with no choice involved.
1) it doesn't feel rewarding
2) picking talents is fun
3) having to analyze and pick b/w different options forces you to develop an understanding of game mechanics and tradeoffs
picking talents when leveling a character is fun.
having everything handed to you and thereby turned into chores is not fun.
TL;DR picking talents or other methods of progressing your character every level is a core and fun game mechanic and you are retarded for even trying to justify the MoP experience in this area.
cheers my unintelligent and incorrect friend!
Am I stupid for not doing these missions? I don't really know how to do them and I'm intimidated by them because I tried the dungeon finder once, was so embarassingly bad I got kicked after getting flamed in like 5 minutes
>>530998416also, the second half of this, re:
>level 30 warrior in vanilla: literally 3 keybinds >level 30 warrior in mop: 21 keybindshas nothing to do with talent trees, now does it? that's the topic, not the number of keybinds. the number of keybinds is an entirely different and unrelated topic that you are trying to conflate with having impactful character progression choices while leveling. a dishonest form of argumentation.
As a developer you should NEVER listen to your retarded playerbase for suggestions.
Only egoless pajeet developers (slaves) listen to player feedback.
First of all: I made the game, i make the game and you play and stfu.
Thanks for reading
>>531003985they're grey so not really much point in doing them now because you won't get xp. I doubt you will even be able to queue for those dungeons anymore since you've levelled past them.
what are you doing that got you kicked so quickly, I know right now all the sweats are levelling so there's some higher expectations. but it's not *that* hard. just queue as dps and follow the group if you don't know what you're doing. as long as you don't go afk you should be fine.
>>531004119You get a new ability every 4 levels, idiot. Thatโs the point. Itโs all already baseline. And sure dude, people really got excited killing boars for 2 hours to get rewarded with a 1% bonus to frost damage spells
>>531004465You didn't comprehend his post
>>531003710I agree with you but my autism won't let me ignore that Blizzard didn't make Diablo 2, they bought it from the original team and gave them funding. David Brevik and his friends in their basement invented Diablo 2's skill trees and then consulted on WoW. Blizzard got lucky. It kind of helps to explain how they've fallen so far when you realize they haven't made anything good themselves since WC3
>>531004738Blizzard is a brand and publisher retard,
There were multiple blizzards in one
>>531004980Playing word games doesn't save you from the fact of what I posted. Concession status? Accepted.
>>531004465>people really got excited killing boars for 2 hours to get rewarded with a 1% bonus to frost damage spellsyeah, they did actually. even if the talents themselves weren't always that exciting (they were rarely as bad as your exaggerated example though), it's about giving the player a feeling of choice and character progression at every level. it feels good and there's a reason that players resisted the MoP talent changes so much and Blizzard eventually went back to a more complex talent tree.
the MoP talent system is fine at endgame, maybe even arguably better. but it sucked for levelling and marked the point where the game's development became solely focused on endgame content.
>>531005070Clueless how the world works
>>531004410I did follow close. I think I drew too much agro which caused me to die. Then I had trouble getting back to them and got kicked. They said "rogue do something? Useless" and then kicked me. I think I'll just stick to solo questing for now.
>>531005178Reread the post
>>531005273NTA but the problem was just that you had trouble getting back and they refused to rez you I guess then. Most other groups should be fine.
>>531005273I see. sounds like just an impatient group, don't let it get to your head. group content can be intimidating but most people aren't actually that unforgiving. I would give it another shot if you intend to do any group content at some point, it's better to learn the ropes at lower levels then struggle at endgame.
and yeah like other anon said it's probably just cause you were taking awhile to run back, in the future if you die don't release right away and somebody will probably rez you. but again, just sounds like you got an impatient group. brush it off and try again, don't let assholes get under your skin and ruin the game for you. it's not all that bad, I promise.
>>531005117>DUDE so like you get free choice!!! Free choice to spam frostbolt for 96% of the leveling journey from 1-60!!!!KYS. No matter how much you cope, mop leveling is STILL superior to vanilla based on specialization selection alone
the path of a ret chad is not easy
>>531006416>mop superior levelingEnjoying babys first mmo without the rpg gaming experience are we?
>>531006416every day I thank god retards like you are stuck wasting your life here instead of developing video games
>>531005776>>531006227>sounds like just an impatient groupThey all ran at the mobs like it was a race and there were a lot of them too, maybe playing rogue made me view the game too meticulously but it was very much a "keep up or be left behind". I wasn't the only guy who died and even he had to ask how to navigate the dungeon (so I like to cope and say this particular dungeon was on the more confusing side). I didn't get lost, I sneaked back to where I died and they had raced on ahead (but there were still mobs everywhere somehow). There's probably a way to check where your party is on the map but I didn't have the foresight to learn it beforehand. This all happened in less than 4 minutes, we all ran into, two of us died, and they kicked me before I could sneak back to them.
I'm already level 55 so I fear I might've missed the chance to learn this stuff in a lower stakes environment. When I make a new character I'll make a greater effort to attempt these early dungeons. It doens't help I'm really unfamiliar with all the multiplayer features (I didn't know people could rez each other)
So Timeless Isle has inter-faction pvp, right? Even if you play pve server you can wpvp there against your own faction? And playing a mono-faction pvp server won't cuck you from wpvp there anyway? I still can't decide what server lads...
>>531009308yeah with how players are these days your probably going to have full guilds flagging up and farming you for bloody coins or whatever the currency was for the first 3 weeks
>>531008023>anni: 9.8k players WORLDWIDEWhat copium are you smoking lil bro?
>FRESH HYPE FRESH HYPE>canโt even get 25k players at peak >literally canโt even beat out cata, the worst expansion, in the final week, in the worst raid of the entire expansionAutistic little loser doesnโt realize the most important thing to a game is actually MAKING MONEY and nobody wants trash add vanilla as we have seen time and time again
>>531008450>They all ran at the mobs like it was a race and there were a lot of them toothat's par for the course right now, MoP classes are overtuned for vanilla content so people are just blitzing it
>I sneaked back to where I died this is probably why you got kicked in all honesty, sneaking is slowww. and there's no reason to sneak if your group has already cleared a path through the dungeon. if there were still mobs around they would be avoidable if the group managed to get ahead of them.
in any case, like mentioned just wait for a rez next time, even a sweaty speedrunner group would probably rather rez you than wait for you to run back.
>There's probably a way to check where your party is on the mapyes, just press M to look at the map.
>I'm already level 55 so I fear I might've missed the chance to learn this stuff in a lower stakes environment. actually, it might be easier once you hit level 60 funnily enough. TBC and Wrath dungeons are very simple compared to vanilla. a lot of vanilla dungeons are quite labyrinthine if you don't know your way around, in subsequent expansions they're pretty much just straight hallways so you're not going to get lost. I would suggest giving it another go after you hit 60. but, at the end of the day it's your journey, so do whatever you're comfortable with. I know it's a lot to take in but diving in is the best way to learn, don't let one bad experience ruin it for you.
>Opera GX getting ads on lolisports
I had one friend shill this thing like a year ago. Considering it's now getting advertisements on esports streams, is it a meme now?
>>531010576>made up schizo autistic screechingTake your meds mentally ill furry transformer
MoP is CRAZY retail, I'd forgotten so much. Legion+ was just THAT BAD.
Looking forward to TBC.
>>531014639What's so bad about MoP? I quit retail in early cata, before LFR. I quit because I was starting college and my new raid leader had serious anger management issues.
>>531014639idk, it's obviously very far removed from vanilla at this point, but it's pretty much just as far removed from modern retail WoW. this period of the game is really its own distinct thing.
So I decided to follow your guy's encouragement and try another dungeon as I just got a quest for the sunkencity. I actually went into the instance not realising it was a dungeon and lost a 1v1 against a basic enemy. Still, this made things easier when the queue finally got me a party. The other time I tried you don't even get time to SKIM the quest. This time went really well though, no incidents, just focused on backstabs and interrupts, no hero nonsense. Having trouble with the quest though as this lord itherius is not spawning where he's meant to be.
Also is this game just really unsocial? Even a simple "hi" at the start of the dungeon is complete ignored. No "gg" or anything at the end. It's like i was playing with bots
>>531012282>sneaking is slowwwI'm a subtlety rogue, I sneak faster then I run and I would've died if I didn't sneak with all those enemies. We weren't even that far in. But yeah everyone's playing like they've done these dungeons a 100 times. One thing I didn't get was when they would just ignore some groups of mobs (that would still attack them and often me or their minions). I don't know if I had that much fun but I'm certainly more confident at doing these quests now
WoD is closer in terms of design to MoP than it is to Legion. We're most likely getting WoD then Legion.
>>531015478>is this game really unsocial>everyone's playing like they've done these dungeons 100 timesUnfortunately, these statements are true. I'm glad you gave it another go though.
>>531015478>picThat's why classic posters are so heavily against pve queues. The community just dies.
The majority of retail WoW players are solo gamers, and that's why Delves are a success.
>>531015478>Also is this game just really unsocial?Unfortunately devs decided to prioritize convenience over the world, every single time. When you couldn't just easily dispose of your teammates and grab new ones, people were much nicer and more sociable.
Retoilet players posting ITT
I play both classic and retail
Imagine wasting your money by only playing half of WoW
>>531015478>I'm a subtlety rogue, I sneak faster then I runah fair enough, I haven't played rogue in ages, I thought sneaking was slow.
>One thing I didn't get was when they would just ignore some groups of mobs (that would still attack them and often me or their minions)probably just pulling several packs of mobs so they can be AoE'd down all at once. like I said classes are overtuned for that content right now so people are doing massive pulls. it's a bit intimidating if you're new, but yeah.
anyway yeah people don't really talk to eachother outside of guilds and people HAVE run these dungeons 100 times. the game doesn't really have much intake of new players at the moment, these are all people who have done this countless times and just want to get through it so they can play at max level with their friends. don't take it personally. if you want more socialization, join a guild or you might be better off playing one of the vanilla game versions. the latter has sweats too but generally more people looking for the social mmo experience.
>>531007816WoW was already baby's first mmo for having an auction house, no exp or item loss on deaths, solo grind spots all the way to max level, etc.
It's a good thing that mid slop got casualized further into a regular video game.
>>531017398Im looking forward to not seeing your posts ever again im day or two
I think the next seasonal server should be more like old school MMOs. XP loss on death and more inconveniences.
>>531015478what server btw? i'd play with you but i'm going to have to catch up if so
>>531017214I really appreciate your amicability. I was half expecting you to call me an idiot at least a few times. I'm a little intimidated and ignorant when it comes to stuff like guilds being completely green when it comes to MMOs but as I approach level 60 I think I'll give it more thought.
>>531017845I think it's Pyrewood Village EU. I hear there's a new expansion coming out so I hope I run into at least a few anons.
Vanilla into TBC
Priest or shaman for healing?
>>531018721if you're looking to raid shamans will be in high demand. otherwise, i'd do priest personally and shadow priest is more fun than ele shaman
>>531018721You need 5 shamans per raid but CoH output is pretty insane and people will suck your dick for PI. So it's really up to you.
>>531019632do priests run disc in tbc?
they say fresh is like a first kiss
you don't know how long it's gonna last
>>531020476about 2 weeks before it becomes cancerous
>>531020578Two weeks of no lifing was all it took to get most preraid bis and do one kara before i quit last tbc
>>531008450sounds like you got the prison wing of BRD
that one is a weird one because the actual dungeon is huge but that particular 'wing' only requires you to kill the boss immediately to the right to get the LFD rewards, so groups will generally just pull everything to that boss. It only takes a few minutes to complete so that is why the group was most likely impatient. I can see how you would die and how you'd get lost coming back, that particular one is an exception and I wouldnt worry much about it.
>>531023346I was already unwilling to go hard on TBC after trying to no life Classic just once.
I see now why the based elder millenials were quitting this game by Cataclysm in the original run.
>hardcore
>join group
>pretend to afk last room before Doan
>watch utter panic ensue
>group flees to the exit
>I know the respawns are up
>3 people die the rogue vanishes and I hearth out while theyโre running
Fucking hilarious. The best part is that you canโt ban people for it and EVEN IF THEY DO all it costs is a sub to redo it again and i know Iโm ruining someoneโs week possibly month by having their characters die at 30+
>>531020476Fresh lasts until PvP ranking is unlocked. It then goes from fun world PvP to deathballs farming everything for honor and ruining every single zone
>>531018721Depends if you know rogues/mages or warriors
can pallys put on the dress in tbc or are they outclassed
>>531024969iirc holy paladin is the unmatched tank healer
>>531023346Kara was such a masterpiece. They don't make 'em like that anymore. Just "easymode" of CURRENTRAID
>lvling as arcane in the prepatch
>lvl 10 monk + lvl 10 arcane mage
>the arcane mage literally 2 shots enemies while the monk needs 10sec per mob
what a joke
>>531025117Mages have always been the king of lvlers whatโs even your point
>>531025094I found that one run that i did tedious and speedrunny, we cleared everything in one go.
I remember fondly of tanking kara when i was 13 in a shitter guild where we wiped on prince a million times for some reason (just didnt have enough dps probably) and it was the most fun i had in wow.
That green dragon boss was like a maze to figure out, etc.
>leveling as combat 80
>5 point eviscerate does 5-6k
>switch to assass
>mutilate does 5k main hand 3k off hand
>dispatch procs crit up to 20k
>poisons tick for half of a fully charged eviscerate
what the fuck
so Faerlina is taco-niggers, right? Is that why you all said Grob or Mankrik? PvE hurts my soul but maybe it's fine for a shitpost expansion...
>>531025631Yeah I just meant the design. Spooky mansion is kino beyond belief. It had so much care put into little things, and it was a 10man for everyone.
Now they don't care about any casuals that aren't pet collectors.
>>531026163Every NA Classic server is mostly Latin America, most first worlders stopped playing a while ago
>>531027590No it's just Faerlina and Benediction (the pvp/arena player servers). There might be one or two guilds on Mankrik/Pagle but nowhere near the same.
is there any oceanic servers for the anniversary realms?
Whatโs the most fun and RP hardcore class to play?
Iโm thinking Dwarf Hunter, Undead Rogue, Tauren Shaman/Druid or nelf warrior
Ffs there are too much of you fags playing on thunderstrike atm 8 cant quest in peace
>>531016289>That's why classic posters are so heavily against pve queues. The community just dies.>the community in question: >invites sent out manually>hi. Hi. sup>*clear dungeon*>ggs, bye
>>530898249eat shit frosstfire you nigger hahaha
>>530944521It's true, they need them for running through Ashenvale and climbing trees.
is frost dk a fun class in mop?(pve)
>OP 3 days, 8 hours ago
HAHAHAHA
Is it still worth making darkmoon cards or are we too close to MoP for the trinkets to be relevant?
>>531049429I can't imagine using so many materials to make something that gets replaced at 87
>>530756143>So, if the scarlet crusade are all about being anti undead, why are these guys undead?Blizzard predicted the chuds trooning out in 2010
If Hogger is so good, where is Hoggest?
>think about coming back for MoP
>everyone on my bnet only plays retail or anniversary now
>thread is 3 days old
Well it was a good run
>>531051253you got the entire server to group up for one picture? awesome sense of community
>>531051253woah 60 people in one image? definitely not dead as fuck even though this thread is almost 4 days old
>>531051253>the most popular MoP server has 1/3rd the playerbase of Nightslayer during the worst phase of vanilla>w-we aren't dead bros...
>>531051253Incredibly dead if you couldn't find more people to SS in a hotspot like that
why are MoP servers like this? do people just sit in Org all day between queues? is this why people think mop is poppin off because Org is overflowing with a third of the realm? it sure looks like retail to me.
>>531052891>do people just sit in Org all day between queues?welcome to WoW since Wrath
>>531052891>only 27.4% of the pop out in the world, most of them botsbros... "world"? of warcraft or is it wait for queue craft?
MOP sisters how did it get this bad? maybe only fresh is the real deal huh
>>531052018the genera, is dead because of schizos and i fighting. it's not that reflective of the health of the game (although classic is losing popularity- all versions of it)
>human warrior
>always doing stupid strafing while fighting
you're not going to get behind me and you just look retarded
>>531053149>Anni>the game is sitting in the capital city to queue AV until r14, buying gold, and only logging in during raid night Bussin
>>531055402the whole of the classic player base bringing their retail minmax mindset to classic is just awful honestly. Parsing is so gay I can't believe it caught on like it has
>>531060990I kind of understand it, they're just trying to find another way to make vanilla enjoyable. The PvE content is so easy that, especially if you're not much into PvP, the game has nothing to offer besides raidlogging.
Vanilla just doesn't have enough content to satisfy most modern MMO players. This is why it's nonsensical to do anything right now except wait for Classic+ and play Epoch in the meanwhile.
>>531061984Just don't play then. For me the journey is leveling and pvping and once I'm done I just stop playing. Parsing is OK without worldbuffs but it's not enough to keep me entertained long term at least
>playing turtlewow
>"don't worry bro just ignore the 1000's of issues and things get quite fun you'll see"
>not great but not bad
>need some gold, start gathering
>time to sell stuff
>1 single AH scan takes over 2 hours and that's just for scanning
>another 25 minutes to check for latest auctions and post
>"yeah it's a bit slow huh? xD~"
I swear, people that play this are under some heavy duty copium. They have blizzard's dick so far into their asses that everything turtlewow related is amazing and completely immune from any sort of criticism.
>>531062372>ah addon user>is retardedA tale as old as time. Just shift click the item and post yours for cheaper
>>531062332an MMO, at least as it was originally conceived in the 2000's, was supposed to be a virtual second life. a lot of people still treat it that way. unfortunately 90% of MMOs are trash so many come to vanilla wow as one of the few good ones, but realize it lacks the mechanics to be interesting past the 300th hour
>>531062372don't forget the p2w cash shop that will drive turtletroons insane if you mention it
>>531063601what are you winning?
>>530793134Can you incels name which streamer guilds and can point them out with evidence?
>>531052891it's prepatch
there's nothing to really do except queue dungeons in the capital city or quest
>>531060990>a classic player playing classic makes them a retail playerthe biggest wowcg puzzle
>>531072768Genuinely dead, it had a small spike in activity when they announced the free boost for MoP but now the only people left are a handful of guilds that can't let go because they're full bis with 5 ashbringers in raid
>>531073773>the game that's over is not getting players anymorewow holy shit how did that happen
>>531073846Yeah no shit, the guy asked what was happening so I answered
>>531073846>Saying that when Classic constantly pulls numbers
>>531072714You must be really lonely that you make things up for (yous) but I'll give you one because I'm feeling pity. What I said makes perfect sense and I'm right. Those players played wow vanilla and played retail as it progressed, bringing back their minmax mindset to classic
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1lyv574/what_went_down/
What's the drama now, what did blozzard do now?
Why are Moppers in such denial? shit is dead. You sit in org with 1/3 the realm pop and another third are in dungeons. Holy fucking retail-lite batman. Moppers are just disabled retail players who can't handle +2 keys. Imagine playing on those ancient second rate mop realms lol
>>531036397lots of oce players on nightslayer. don't play maladath (the actual official oce server) it's completely dead sadly
>>531074529>any classic version "pulling numbers" after the second raidkek, bur even
>this thread is just people seething over versions of wow they dont like 24 hours a day
no wonder everyone moved to the other threads lol
What if they let invasion mobs give reputation and leave the gong up for a month wouldn't that be fucking funny that all these losers would lose their 200k gold investment
>>531075380What's is sis yapping about
will anni realms progress through all the expansions again? im thinking about trying them out if thats the case
>>531075380So by that (Retarded) logic of yours, there are no pure classic players because lots of them played through tbc, wrath and cata
>>531076330Tribal monkeys fighting over different versions when in the end Blizzard doesn't give a shit because it all counts for the MAU
>>531077051Original Trilogy players know what time it is
>>531078508what about warcraft 1-3 players?
>>531078756what about super mario bros?
>>531078834>mario out of nowhereyou dont really have any point to make, do you
>>531078952what does warcraft 1-3 have to do with world of warcraft? that was the point, you esl monkey. Let's include Zelda.
>>531079076>what does warcraft 1-3 have to do with world of warcraft?
Torn between Hunter and Warlock coming back for MOP. Also never played MOP back in the day, so this'll be a first. Which way, anon kun?
>>531079820I probably prefer lock because I hate focus, but hunters are pretty OP in MoP with their immune and moving steadies
>>531079820SPriest or bust
>try vanilla again because why the fuck not and I'll pick a noshoes shaman this time
>it's the most fucking fun class in the game
Bros, why didn't you tell me noshoes shammy is the most fun class?
>salvdali threatened DMCA because someone put his sperg out telling a viewer to commit suicide irl in their youtube video
lmfao.
>>531076173Don't post the chart or he'll fucking LOSE IT
>>531079442>couldn't argue against ityyyyyyup
Why the fuck is hyper spawning still in the game?
>bro it's safe to just kill the target don't worry we will randomly spawn at least 4-6 mobs when you're at 50% health and out of reousrces
>>531090302>what do the games wow is based on have to do with wowits clear you just want attention so here you go friend
>>531083109wait until you can oneshot alliance trannies with either elemental mastery or windfury. No greater joy
>>531090302>games that backstory and major characters come from
>r13 so decide to do some wsg
>it's still just professional flag carrier faggots with full consumes
so tiresome
>>531090828>>531090951he's a retard that brought super mario bros in a wow discussion, pay no attention
>troons in LFG is still trying to claim nontranny girls play this game
Are there any normal non dead servers that have a balanced population for mop? I have no idea what the numbers or faction balance is on the classic servers atm.
feels nice that being cunnyphile is now okay since trump is one
Damn anniversary really fell off huh
>>531091056R13 and triggered by consumes and people who know how to play the game
The state of pvp where everyone gets handed welfare ranks
>>531095345'nillers never enjoyed pvp in equal grounds
that's why they flock to low level zones to kill people instead, or catch people off guard, or outnumber them
>>531095806>pvp on equal groundsYou are getting outplayed by people who know the game better than you, deal with it
>>531095345I've done wsg exalted multiple times but that doesn't change the fact that three letter name 'professional' fcs with huge egos doing there little jumps is lame as fuck.
>>531096445>nooo I'm unable to use the same consumables they do even THO they're available for everyoneLet's get you back to searing gorge now
>>531096849Schizo we are in agreement
>>531097446>i only see what i want to seeyup
>>531097483Getting this triggered because i ganked you
They gonna fix the broken HD texture pack anytime soon? Wish they would just separate the armor parts from it.
>>531042143I love new players!!!
>>531098173There's like two people left working on MoP and there's still major game bugs when launch is right around the corner. It's never getting fixed
>>531096849>swipes my credit card and uses 5000g worth of magic dust>consumes are fair!noob confirmed.
>>531099542>noooooo i have to buy magic dust?, i can't farm that myself, the only unique source of that is in the AHand then he says "noob"
lol
lmao
rofl
How was ele shaman in mop? I cant decide between that or mage.
>>531099957>doesn't even know what magic dust is
>>531100627is farming a lvl 19 npc too hard for you or something?
>>531100901ah the revisionism card i see
Is there any point going for herbalism if I have alchemy on Anniversary? Since bots are flooding the market
>>531101164Yeah herbalism is gonna be the only one making you much gold.
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/wow-classic/wow-classic-guides/974853-r-st-dxp-era-classic-retail.html?s=51c972ee6f0d2dbc412d3dcab8af8b13
Will this work for MoP classic?
>>531101895...
nigga how dumb u iz? use epvpers nd muggafukkin google dat shieeeet nigga
>>531101895Yes it will get you all the way to 80 at least
>>531100901explain to the class what's the source of obtaining Magic Dust?
>dmf made the queues shit again
Log off other dps
>>531100339Enhance was better IIRC, but Ele is still decent.
Playing classic lowkey feels like playing private servers, its like... what is the point, it does not feel "official".
>>531109530It's because of the fractured community. Too many iterations of the same game.
>>531109530You're right, especially because the devs are purely funserver devs at this point. Its just where everyone plays, so.
>>531109530Yeah I first noticed that with SOD, even though I had a blast on it initially. Blizzard is just milking everything now at this point.
>>531110564and addicted retards will eat it up anyways so they have no reason to stop
>>531110742It's the only product like it. MMOs are too expensive to make in the West anymore.
>>531111790MMOs are a dead genre, its a miracle that shit like FF and Retail is somehow still standing
meanwhile
>new world>lost ark>Ashes of creationtopkek, 2 more weeks for THE ONE
everyone always says MMOs are a dead genre but no one can explain why beyond saying "le every game is online now" as though the only thing you do in an MMORPG is wave at other players
>>531112629New cope is brewing
>>531112629Because the developers killed the online worlds for convenient gachashit.
So now everyone just plays gacha. The crack to MMOs' cocaine.
>>531113789Essentially. MMOs have leaned into casual slop mechanics instead of doubling down on their own qualities and the qualities that birthed them. But that doesn't mean the genre is fruitless. The developers are just cowardly and short-sighted.
>>531114115>The developers are just cowardly and short-sightedAnd insanely lazy.
>>531113802>namedropping yourselfshut up cuckold lol
>>531042340thread needs moar wowo wawa feet
>replying indirectly
woman?
mop kinda sucks so far idk. it would help if the devs could make stuff work but they seem to be struggling.
>>531076791it'll reach WOTLK from leaks we got a while ago, if it maintains popularity then it'll definitely just be classic #2. seeing as it appeals to the people who missed the classic launch of 2019 and it drops updates at a faster rate than the first classic I can guess that it'll last past WOTLK, if not then I'm certain it'll let you transfer to the main classic. I gave up on classic #1 since I started in late cataclysm and playing mop just feels like I'm late to the party, anni feels like the way to go
>>531115402>seeing as it appeals to the people who missed the classic launch of 2019bunch of reject fags lol
servers only had 40 players total at Silithus farming bugs for their GM
AQ in 2020 completely overshadows anniversary
>>531115401I'm still torn between resubbing for this shit or not. I never actually experienced Mists back when it first released, so that's mostly why I'm even considering coming back.
>gatekeeping words now
ain't no way
>>531116002it's a very 'meh' version of the game IMO. The PvP was decent, but that's about it.
>replying instantly and indirectly like a woman
flustered AF
>>531116002It's alright if you like the "rotation game" but this go-around made me realize the only reason I saw it in better light was because Legion onward was just so abysmal.
It still has some of the Wrath-Cata class design, do that will still be fun, but the population is also declining which makes the embittered parsie lifer element that much more condensed.
>Projecting
Concession status: accepted
Dungeon grinding in MoP classic is literally a fucking meme. You just deathball the entire instance. No cc, no pulls, just run into everything and nuke it down/rinse repeat
>>531117781Yeah, it birthed the M+ meme with Challenge Modes, which became wildly unpopular by WoD, so they put gear rewards in the them from Legion onward.
>>531112629Because nobody wants to invest 200 hours just to have โfunโ. If you want to autistically grind you can do it IRL. People play games for fun.
>>531119472if you're only having fun at max level that is simulatenously a (You) and the developer's problem
>>531117312I've heard Mists was the greatest time for PvP. How true is that?
>>531119741Absolutely and unequivocally, this. Unfortunately it comes with the normalfags who are there strictly for the gacha elements and their money.
>>531119994The classes are very fun because they have so many abilities. It's very homogenized in the "everyone is op" kind of way, so yes the PVP is fun. But it's wholly separate from the rest of the game. Like I've always said, they should have made an arena server years ago without the """bullshit grinding""" like
>>531119472 these types lament.