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>>530595609>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracyโข. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSJun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA
Jul 02 Warbond Token https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339785321679794
Jul 03 XBox release Aug 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTs9VDm4KAU
Jul 17 Control Group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPZWJw8u_s4
>LATEST PATCHJun 24 1.003.104 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339151333753417
no reds in warbonds is based
but they should have them be MO rewards at least every other month
ANSWER ME NIGGERS NOWWWW
>>530686358
WE NEED A WARBOND THAT ADDS SEX IN NOW!!!!!!
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>>530694903the emote better have a laughter audio cue otherwise is trash
Based on the blog description, and assuming the Swedeistanis aren't just mistranslating their own advertising.
>Unlimited "idle" lifespan. All other sentries have a lifespan somewhere between 2-3 minutes where they deactivate even with ammo remaining, even the Tesla Tower.
>In exchange, the Laser Sentry has zero safeguards against overheating. If it keeps firing, and gets no chance to cooldown, it will just kill itself.
The interpretation I get from this is that the Laser Sentry is intended to be a true additional fire support sentry. It needs you alongside it, shooting the shit it's beaming to keep it from blowing itself up. It can't be left alone or expected to pick up the slack all by itself. But if properly used, it's an effective "permanent" DPS ramp within its own radius, and not a simple burst of damage like with e.g. the MG or Gatling Sentries.
Of course, the major problem here is that laser beam weaponry is only S-tier against bots. The Laser Cannon is AP4, so at the very least the Laser Sentry should also be AP4 at minimum, sensibly it'd be AP5 since it's bigger than the Laser Cannon. They're decent against Squids too, but not as effective thanks to the Voteless. Against Bugs, they're kinda ass.
>>530695035I think that was the implications when they used it in the trailer
It's still a reddit emote though and I WILL be kicking anyone using it in my lobbies
What are the "cheat" mods that are must haves?
>>530695035It does.
https://youtu.be/L8FKZG2lPBw?si=2dEQuDYpfEnhN9AI
>>530695151>All other sentries have a lifespan somewhere between 2-3 minutes where they deactivate even with ammo remaining, even the Tesla Tower.I call vullshit unless they are adding it now. I've found turrets I put down during the initial drop well when we are heading back to extraction. And we didn't take 3 fucking minutes to do the objective.
>>530694795Nah, armor's got diminishing returns. Going above 150 is a waste.
WARP DIVER BROS WHERE WE AT?
PLASMA, LASER, WARP SHIT, WE'RE SO BACK (hopefully, probably not but hey) also laughing mad emote yes I've always needed this.
>>530695614>I call vullshit unless they are adding it now.This has been a thing literally since the 60 day patchathon. The lifespan of sentries was reduced from 5 minutes to 2-3 minutes in exchange for stronger firepower and more ammo.
>>530695657Not anymore it doesn't. They made it linear a few months ago.
I like running around with the punisher and GL what armor is best
>>530695948Oh, must have missed that. I still think it's a waste.
>>530695614>I've found turrets I put down during the initial drop well when we are heading back to extractionliterally impossible, sentries have always had finite deployment time and even on release this is too long for them to stick around.
>>530695891Then why do I keep finding my turrets more than three minutes after they were dropped?
>>530694795over 150? not terribly noticeable assuming you dont get headshot which is hard to control you can usually take one more hit from most non-huge bugs.
>>530695151This thing is just going to be a teammate killer
>>530695841Might be the first backpack to actually rival jump pack but it depends on how long the safe cooldown is.
>>530696031You're still better off with multiplicative % stacking like on the police armor, true, but 200 is solid now.
>>530696114because you're huffing some weird drugs and this isn't happening. sentries despawn after a couple of minutes to prevent over-stacking and to conserve game memory.
>>530695151Its viability will depend on its cooldown. It's F-tier if it has the same basic cooldown as stuff like gatling/rocket/AC sentries.
>The interpretation I get from this is that the Laser Sentry is intended to be a true additional fire support sentry. It needs you alongside it, shooting the shit it's beaming to keep it from blowing itself up. It can't be left alone or expected to pick up the slack all by itself. But if properly used, it's an effective "permanent" DPS ramp within its own radius, and not a simple burst of damage like with e.g. the MG or Gatling Sentries.This is the opposite of what you want sentries to do. Their value comes from being independent damage sources that inflict serious damage on their own that also draws some aggro away from you. You never want to be alongside sentries. You want them to act like a second fireteam that's on a different flank or ridgeline.
>Of course, the major problem here is that laser beam weaponry is only S-tier against bots.Laser weapons are also only good when intelligently aimed at weak points. Their damage output is subpar in a vacuum.
As described it's just a shit sentry. But a shit sentry with a very short cooldown can be valuable in its own right. If this thing doesn't have a cooldown equivalent or shorter than the MG sentry, then it's basically meme unplayable tier. I suppose the raw DPS of the laser might just be tuned high enough to be useful, but based on the current trend of laser weapons this probably won't be the case.
>still no democratic felid allies
But why?
>>530696495>and to conserve game memorySentries to last 30 seconds so the game runs on xbox series S!!!
Any mods that make samples glow or have map markers?
>>530696752We need a faction of sexy felinewomen that were originally bred to be sex slaves for Helldivers but revolted, and now our objective is to hunt them down and dick them back into submission.
THE POINT IS TO SHOW WE'RE FUCKING EVIL
>>530697058Feline women are better as democratic allies IMO.
>>530694618 (OP)The last 2-3 warbonds did nothing for me. They were really lame. But this warbond is so stacked I actually decided to download the game again.
>maxxed out medals despite not participatingThanks.
>>530697058How about breeding farms to procure new patriots after the losses we suffered on Super Earth?
>>530696763>Three firing modes>Sequential full auto with 3 RPM settings>"Shotgun-like" volley blast>Total, literally fires every shot loaded in every barrel all at once, with such immense recoil that your ass gets ragdolled backwardsAlready the best gun in the game. Don't even give a shit about where it sits in the meta.
>>530697058>super earth is le evil>It's actually the UK license meme and the parliament memeNo no no, the aliens are super migrating to earth and super raping the population, but the government won't do shit because the helldivers like having the aliens as pets in their super destroyers.
>new primary can pop hulk eyes
Bros....
>>530697735>Inb4 it's a heavy pen primary
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>>530697496I wonder how high you'll be able to jump with the total-fire ragdoll.
>take nuke pack>look straight down and launch yourself up a level towards the stratagem jammer
>>530697735average slop enjoyer IQ
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Dropping the laser sentry is the perfect time to add pic rel.
>another warbond without the APC, SEAF squad or missile silo
>>530697349Masters of ceremony has been one of my favorites because it gave me the sparkler grenade, which is so strong that I'm not sure when I'll stop bringing it.
The cop warbond was nice for the arcdog and the arc GL, although the dog requires tard wrangling and the GL is dependent on its bugginess working in its favor.
Has it been a year since the last time that we got super destroyer upgrades?
>>530697897>>530697961>Destroying hulk vent in one shot but ragdolls youSounds like a fair trade, even Eruptor need 2 shot to do it.
>equip wormhole
>democracy protects
>gamble diver subclass unlocked
>>530699131displacer and silo were implemented at the same time they are scrapping the barrel of old content thats been in cryo for a year+ now.
>>530694618 (OP)Are voice mods still broken?
What is the new armour passive?
>She still thinks all those leaked things aren't cut content
>>530699131Missile silo is just railgun with extra steps.
>>530694618 (OP)Isn't the control group the people that get placebo treatment instead of the new medicine? This warbond name makes no sense.
We're never getting new stratagems from completing MOs anymore...
>Another two blues and a green
>the new plasma can be used as a mortar like the crescent overseers
Oh boy!
>>530700246If I understood it correctly:
-If you're killed it brings you back to 100%HP but you will bleed out over time. Will not work if you had crippled limbs when you died. Only works once per reinforce.
-2 second stim duration increase
-50% arc damage resistance
>>530700385missile silo is the "fuck that jammer/detector" stratagem.
>>530700579redbros we're starving...
>>530700732That's the new booster I think not the armor.
>>530700539>the warp pack is placebo, this is just the divers having superpowers bcause they're so free
>>530700819No that is the armor. This Warbond doesn't have a booster.
The volley gun will scratch the minigun itch. At least for a while
>>530700986It's not the same, anon...
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>>530700943Ah my bad. I saw the thing in the bottom right and just thought it was the booster.
>>530700579That's what this game needs another orbital that players can throw into the meganests that accomplishes no objectives and only succeeds in wasting your time
>>530700819This warbond doesn't have a booster. They've run out of ideas for boosters.
>>530701194How about just literally any fucking offensive strat, nigger? The nuke strike has been sitting in the files for over a year.
>>530701194We need more precision reds. Precision napalm. Fixing the AOE on OPS to compensate for the HP buff that enemies got a few months back. etc
i bought the parade meme bound last week farming lobby doko
What kind of red strategems would you all want?
>>530701001The pilot of that thing should be a huge muscular black dude who talks in ebonics called Brotha-1
We need an orbital railshotgun
>>530701472give me back my shredder missile
Is there such a thing as a "fire primary" loadout for Squids? I gave them a break for a while, got Freedom's Flame, loved it, then went back now for the MO. After attempting to use more meta shit they're still just annoying and my Crisper has been great for CC and even fucking up Overseers.
Can I just kill the fucks with fire? Take the primary flamer and grab a MG? Seems a bit undertuned with just it and a WASP, though I haven't committed to it yet. Dickle was fun, though.
>>530701481>inbound muh crackas, finna bout to drop the bomb ass niggasaki on dem ladybug lookin muthafuckas shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee*muffled shiet in the distance*
>>530701353EAT is an OPS sidegrade
>>530701472fix OPS. Give me orbital precision napalm. That thunderer barrage or whatever from the first game. Maybe something that's a middleground between the OPS and the walking/380 that just fires the 380 about three or four times at a fairly precise area.
>>530701426well you have a week to farm im sure a few
sc lobbies will pop around the 17
>>530701481>blacks flying planesso thats why we only see the crashed wrecks
>>530701594Here's your "fire primary" bro.
>>530701594Crisper is (unfortunately) basically just a lower magsize Torcher. Everything good about the Torcher can be done with the Crisper, so it can be hard to justify fitting the Torcher into a loadout.
Stalwart + Torcher + Senator (for popping Harvesters and Overseer heads) has been fun for me, though. Stalwart can handle anything the Torcher can't. Would recommend Siege-Ready.
>>530701472Orbital gas barrage, eagle gas strike, gas rounds for the artillery gun
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>>530701731pretty dogshit sidegrade
Just got the news how does this work if I already redeemed a 1000SC stimmy check with support a while back
The warbond gun is based on the metal storm firearms. Which is probably also the inspiration of the helldivers 1 disposeable gun.
>leveling a weapon to 25 so I never use it again
>people still use the EAT
But why?
>>530702286>how does this workIt doesn't, the 1000SC was your token
>>530702286you dont get it, you already got equivalent value to a warbond token with the 1000 sc
>>530702375It's the best expendable AT
>>530702286this is for new customers going forward. no extra stimulus gibs for you
>>530702375i use it on bot blitz missions
>>530702286>how does this workYou read the post and use your brain a little.
>>530702472Why would you want that when there's non-expendable options?
>>530702152Yeah but it blows up one structure then sprouts to more shoulder fired OPS from the floor
>>530701472Pelican gunship that hovers/circles and blasts shit for aminute or so but is vulnerable to friendly fire and enemy fiee
Eagle A2A strike that targets flying units only in a wide area
>>530702328How are you supposed to reload this thing, just replaced the whole barrels? Isn't that kind of moronic
>>530702375They play in low enough dificulty that 2 AT rounds is enough to deal with tank armor.
>>530702375EATfags have no sense of right or wrong
>>530702589Because you want to use a different support weapon
You need to think of EATs as a red moreso than a support weapon
ATgod does not concerns with the opinions of niggers
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>>530697058>your fourth faction has arrived
>>530702375You can spam it everywhere and your teammates can pick it up so you aren't cucked out of a backpack slot like you would ve with RR
>>530702375Because they have brains and you don't.
>>530702375EAT + Commando is literally the most efficient anti-heavy/anti-structure combo against bots. It trivializes everything.
>>530702698>Difficulty having anything to do with healthUhhhhh someone wanna tell this D5 nigger how the game works?
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>>530702683better than sending it back to the manufacturer to reload it
>>530702683The shotgun they showed to the army opened in the back. The handgun was never built as far as I know. It's probably why the gun was disposeable in helldivers 1.
There should be an orbital FASCAM strike that dispenses mines from altitude and lays them directly in the walking path of your teammates
>>530703174>Higher dificulty will spawn multiple factory striders at the same time>Two AT rounds>Enough>Waiting for a minute to fire again>On multiple factory stridersNo, U.
>>530697596>tell court that helldiver called me undemocratic after I raped them>helldiver in prison while I can continue to ravage super earth
>>530703407Just ignore the D5 player, anon. Their opinions don't matter.
>>530702001I wish I could like this thing, it should be all means appeal to me and seems better after the fire changes, but fuck it feels like limp ass to use. Much prefer the Sickles, need to get the Scorcher.
>>530702082Solid idea. I figured it was the other way, Torcher just being a lower-mag main flamethrower. Good to know, the Crisper has become my main secondary for the last week.
>Stalwart + Torcher + SenatorDoes sound very fun, but how well does it handle Harvesters? Much more importantly, the fuck do you do against Scythes? Nothing in there can handle it. Maybe swap for MG, I guess. Take an AC sentry too, that's what I did for heavier shit when using GL/supply pack on Super Earth.
>>530703407>>530703648What, is your Quasar suddenly dispensing endless rapid DPS? Not even RRfags are this delusional, you drop a fucking barrage on top of multiple Factory Striders. What planet are you queers on?
>>530703792We are talking about EATs being even slower than the slowest reloading AT. And thus, actual garbage, since it's taking the same slot.
>>530703792>wasting 2 stratagem slots on disposable AT when you could bring a standard AT and a 500kg/orbital instead and be significantly more effectiveHah!
You're a funny man!
>>530703407>sees multiple factory striders>brings up a scenario in where zero support anti-tank options are optimal and then calls the eat bad in this scenariosee
>>530703003
>>530703996>He brings EAT to high dificulty missions
Quasar was funny when they borked it and it became Perfect AT infinite ammo zero drop backpack reload. EAT may have drop but at least it fires when you pull the trigger right away(mostly)
>eat is the best expendable anti-tank
No, that would be the Emancipator or Patriot.
>>530694618 (OP)What's the difference between red and white hit markers?
And if my shots ricochet, do they do zero damage?
>>530703709for me its the sound of the laser rifle that keeps me off, if a weapon sounds like its weak it feels weak even if it actually isnt. Its why I dont like the crossbow
>>530703991Uh since when was the EAT two slots?
>>530703952>We are talking about EATs being even slower than the slowest reloading AT.The EAT is the fastest 4K damage dump in the game, even outpacing the Commando if you don't fumble the double dump. What are you on about?
>Laser sentry has infinite ammo but it can overheat and explode
I hope the cooldown timer isn't ass at least.
I still use Quasar to snipe fabs on bots since it has fast projectile and no drop, but the EAT shooting down two dropships back-to-back is still unbeatable in how satisfying that is.
>>530694618 (OP)>Laser turret.Ah yes, another green stratagem to play the game for me while I AFK on bricks. What a welcome addition to the game.
>>530703407>commando instantly deletes one factory Strider via foot or eye shots>EAT + sparkler grenade to foot kills a second>repeat the hot foot combo for the third FSThat's 3 dead within at least 15 seconds.
>>530704378I assumed you were the EAT + Commando guy.
>>530704378>fastest 4K damage dump in the gameMore, you're not counting the Hellpod itself.
>>530704560No, but EAT + Commando is the certified most busted, brainless way to crush D10 bots, alongside Strafing Run. Take these three and you're so universally good against everything bots have that you effectively have a free 4th slot.
>>530704439Except this one sucks balls. Since it just kills itself if it fires without a break. Which it will end up doing during most breaches or defenses.
"Your health will drain forever." wow nice design right there, alexsucks!
I'm most curious about this new stratagem weapon
Big purifier sounds pretty fun, maybe it'll play like a plasma AC
>>530704384It's an incentive to fight alongside your sentry, the faster you clear enemy waves the less it has to fire and the more time it has to cool down. But I suspect that it'll still auto-expire like regular sentries.
>>530704918All the more reason to bring Stim Pistol.
>>530703174>EAT + Commando is literally the most efficient anti-heavy/anti-structure combo against bots.Why the fuck would I waste two stratagem slots on a faction that mostly dies to AP4, lol. If you really want a dedicated anti tank/anti building just bring a cuckchair and snipe half the map.
>>530704960looks like an unholy mix of railgun/quasar but maybe it can be fired at low charge rapidly to simulate being a scuffed AC.
>>530704918It's such a feelsbad thing to put on anything.
>>530704918Should be until you get stimmed
>>530705086
>>530703709>but how well does it handle Harvesters? i take pyrotechnics grenades and just throw two at a harvester's foot if i want it to die, since the sparks are AP5 and all
otherwise you can just spam senator into a leg and it'll die
>Much more importantly, the fuck do you do against Scythes? avoid friendly fire probably
if you're talking about the squid jet, they fall in like 10 senator shots
>Nothing in there can handle it. Maybe swap for MG, I guess. Take an AC sentry too, that's what I did for heavier shit when using GL/supply pack on Super Earth.personally i find stalwart to be superior against squids since it allows you to be fully mobile against enemies which are almost exclusively made to run you down and which are about 80% AP2/1
other stratagems are your prerogative but i get mileage out of eagle cluster (avoid throwing anywhere within 40m of teammates) and orbital gatling/gas stuff
>>530704918>bring Vitality booster>no more health drainwoah
>>530705318>bring Vitality booster>health still getting drainedwoah...
>>530705617YES, RIGHT HERE
>>530704918They should've made it so everyone drops to the floor in a dying animation if none of their limbs got hurt when they reached 0 health, then this letting you play with the dying healthbar, but without the dying animation. This would stealth buff the limb armor passive and give everyone the second chance they so clearly have been wanting to put in the game since democracy protects.
>shilling quasar over EAT
>passive aggressive troon talk
>muh bot webms
uh oh gucci shitters is back from school and ready to melty for the 4th day in a row
>>530704770For me it's jump pack/quasar/strafing run/rocket sentry
EAT/COMMANDO has more AT firepower, but 99% of the time quasar is enough. Especially with strafing and sparkler grenades on deck as backup. Jump pack is just comfy for map mobility and backdooring bot bases. Rocket sentry is just comfy for when I regroup with my team and find that they've been shitting the bed and have accumulated a blob of ~100 devastators loosely scattered around a large area.
>bringing any other AT other than the Railgun
Uh...
>>530705869gucci whiffer never recovered from that time way off when QC was meta for a month and I called him a quck
I want you to remember that every time shazamniggers were screaming about how the game would fail and it's shit and slop and Arrowhead will never break their own goal of like 10k recurring right before making millions of sales, that Gucci Slippers was there shilling right with them
I want you to remember that when the launch was glitched to fuck & back and the balance was realism for thee not for me faggot shit excused by "muh milsim" autism, Gucci Slippers was there saying anyone who didn't like the status quo must be bad and any reference to the original game was irrelevant
I want you to remember that when retards were insisting Alexus was actually based and not a game destroying money running ukroserbian niggerfaggot responsible for every single bad gameplay decision or undocumented fuckup made, that he was responsible for both tonguing slavswigger balls and insisting this very retardation wasn't actually happening
I want you to remember that after we got patched closer to the arcade balance paradigm of the original- we're not even fully there yet- that he was doomcrying that the game was ruined because he enjoyed having his balls crushed as though running straight into a concealed MG nest on Foxhole, an entirely separate game he could still play for this feel
I want you to remember that as hopium maxxers looked into leaks & datamines and proclaimed that vehicle skins, weapon customization, armor skins & weapon/strat upgrade systems were all inevitable after the sheer commercial success- we're halfway through those predictions as of now- he was right there saying it wasn't possible and the game was already dead and if any of it was added it would be bad because reasons
/hdg/, REMEMBER WHAT GUCCI SLIPPERS DID TO YOU
>>530705130Because Laser Cannon gets cucked by both tanks and cannon towers, and can't destroy Fabricators from range.
You're really underselling how broken two constantly rotating forms of AT are. 2 shots on 60 seconds, and 4 smaller shots on 100 seconds. Zero commitment to either so death or where you drop isn't a factor to your performance, and they can be freely shared with the team.
>>530705785This plus give us the option to rape downed leandivers.
>>530705869But its the school holidays?
>>530706606>leandivershow do they look like again ? i forgor
>>530706467what kind of name is gucci slippers anyway lmao what a fag
I'm done with bugfront and its massive retards for today. There's only so much TKs one can take before crashing out because of the dumb niggers on this front that feel the need to throw orbital napalms and eagles near their allies.
i aint reading all that
is this fag pretending that taking over a year to put in features that should have been in the game at launch is a win?
>>530706625modern 4chan thinks there is only one person that holds an opposing opinion and then gives a name to this fragment of their imagination. Eric, Andre, Snoy, etc.
>>530694618 (OP)>charges plasma into a focused sphere REEEEEEEEE I wanted a big scorcher not big purifier
>EATs are le bad now
Yeah ok niggers going to play the game unlike you.
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>>530707115>gene modded divers with shock absorbing gel in their bodies
>>530707115H-HELLDIVERS!!!
HELLDIVERS... LOOK LIKE THAT???? OOOOOOOOHHH MYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOD
EATs ARE the contrarian pick when there are so many AT options now which perform just as well or better
your two epic shots don't do anything above D6 where armored enemies appear more than 2 at a time
I think I'm becoming a squid chud
>>530707115>Retarded weg proportionsIt's all so tiresome
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>>530707115Got that Halo Reach spartan cake
>>530696257Dev said on Discord(?) that they didn't want it to be a traversal tool. It's more of an 'oh fuck' button I guess but hard to say until we see it in action.
>>530707538 Western Erotic Game
>>530707538Western Ero Game
>>530707115>>530707428Why don't they just add sexy skins to this game? They could make billions and give us content way more frequently. Entire gacha games live off this shit.
>>530707687>>530707742What the hell, sounds like slop shit
is this just a better flame sentry?
>>530706558>This is the unit that makes the EATroon shit his pantsGrim
>>530704361Shit, you have my exact kind of autism, and that's exactly it. You nailed it. It just doesn't sound good, so it doesn't feel good. I have the exact same issue with the Crossbow, I know it's supposed to be great and used it alright, but prefer the Eruptor because the Crossbow just does not have feedback at all to make it feel good to me to use.
>>530705194>Pyrotech nadesI need to get Ceremony for that on top of the drip and passive, honestly. They seem like the exact nade I want. Good to know, I forgot Senator could do that too, had issues with it post-sway bullshit.
>Squid jetFair, though that's another reason I was thinking MMG. Just a little more punch, not like there's true AT needed. Except Leviathans and unless they ever change their spawn bullshit there's zero reason to kill them, anyways.
>Stalwart & StrategemsYeah, I ran into that in early Squids what with the lack of shit to need heavier anything to deal with, but now it just edges it out. I see MMG much more suggested now, just definitely better than HMG at any rate. Shame Siege Ready wouldn't help the reload.
Strategems were a big question of this too, didn't know to spam Napalm for the flame theme/synergize with the armor or what. Gas stuff for sure, Orbital Gas is nasty and low-cooldown. Add a guard dog and this'll be fun.
Also, general question for anyone, is the flame armor useful at all outside of niche applications? I was taking it religiously after being annoyed with not being able to use the strat flamethrower walking forward, but honestly now outside of Dickle it feels very, very niche like walking through my own Napalm. Like it's an intentional strategy you have to aim for that isn't particularly game-changing.
>>530707948Noticing a distinct lack of killing the tower in this webm.
>>530707915Unironically yes
>>530707371maybe on bots, meanwhile:
>sticks beacon to charger, dead>oneshots bile titan>oneshots other charger>magdumps impaler forehead>no more heavies in a d10 bug breachwhat a hard faction!
>>530707371They'd be OK if you didn't have to extend them when taking them off of your back.
>see bile charger>swap to EAT>wait three goddamn years as my geriatric diver casually extends the tube>die to charger just in time to actually shoulder the fucking weapon RR is superior for the simple fact that you can just point and click the stupid thing, let alone all the other bonuses like having more than two shots.
I bring EAT+Commando to plebbitor bugs to shoot at bug holes
>>530707915It will probably have 200 range like normal lasers do, so yes. Flamer sentries also have a tendency of lighting themselves on fire and killing themselves because these devs are retarded and don't playtest their game.
Is EAT useless if you don't have the ship module that insta launches support weapons? It takes so long waiting for EAT to drop when you need it.
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EPG bros...
>>530707371>Still regarded as a high A-tier stratagem against bots by the literal sweatiest solodiver Youtubers>N-NO, THEY'RE BAD BECAUSE... BECAUSE THEY ONLY GET TWO SHOTS>Ignore that bots almost never pressure you with meaningful forward advances, and if they did, the RR would also become a worthless stratagem against them because you'd never be able to reload
>>530708058And this is why you don't reply to the underage moortuguese pajeet, nothing but bad faith arguments.
>Bot & Bug Bricks
>Pretty clear and simple, hunker down, bring Sentries & Mines, take out drops, etc.
>Pretty smooth, don't hate them as much as everyone else seems to but definitely cozier pace
>Squid Bricks
>Practically fucking impossible bullshit, barely any voteless and they get wiped quick
>Four harvesters drop on top of each other, six Fleshmobs rush in, eight fucking flying overseers
>Then two Scythes constantly strafing
>Inevitably get overrun and generators blow
Why? Why is this like this? It's like everything awful about the faction at once. How the fuck do you beat it? I use the same if adjusted tactics between normal bricks and their special weaknesses, and it doesn't do shit. Maybe ABR or something? The fucks are just simultaneously tanky and precision/required/DPS checks to make that any fun.
>inb4 Swedish hostile programming causes the Laser Turret to overheat faster when players are near and overheats slower when enemies are near
>Restore Air Quality mission.
>Pick FRV and RR and just drive around popping the mushroom.
>Extract in sub 6 minutes.
Comfy.
>>530708817>squid bricksall you need is gas mines and grenade + hmg emplacements, can take whatever antisquid primary you want
hmg emplacement can shred like a dozen harvesters and the GL emplacement rapes literally everything else
gas mines are perfect CC for bricks, you shouldnt have many issues
>>530696752>>530697058I personally prefer canid auxiliaries
Will you be joining the list?
>>530708817bug bricks are a snoozefest
bot bricks are kino as long as nobody is shooting down ships
squid bricks are alright.
>>530708605>B-but the youtuber says-Opinion disregarded.
>>530704282I just wish it wasnt so fucked in terms of durability and cooldown, I wanna be a pilot bros
>>530709492Metafagging D10 solo-divers have more authority on what's good than you do, even if their lives are pathetic to behold.
I use EATs consistently on D10 bots, always have. I'm always leading on objectives, because I have the freedom to dump my shit into bases on the horizon and not care about ammo economy.
>>530708058>>530708791>This is the unit that the EATroon thinks you have to bring 2 AT stratagems for. Giga grim.
>>530708817are you high
all bricks are piss easy
the HMG emplacement + MG turret alone can borderline solo the entire thing. Are you level 50 or something?
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odst warbond next month retards
>>530710037>See, it's completely toothless if you just don't stand in its firing radiusWow, this is pathetic. Is Portugal that lacking in studs to fuck you that you seek attention here?
>>530710037>he didn't see the obvious turretGucci-bro, not like this...
>>530707371What are your alternatives?
>RRwell duh its better
>QCone shot every 18 second under peak conditions, but you're completly exposed while charging for three seconds. this shit ain't dealing with AT-ATs unless your sniping
>commandoworse DPS all around
>500kgtwo uses every two minutes, can't deal with the heavy spam
>OPSrequires direct hits, gets fucked with by call-in modifiers, cooldown of 70 seconds or so
>ORCcan't oneshot AT-ATs, retarded targeting, cools down for several centuries
>orbital laserhigh TTK on heavies, retarded targeting, long cooldown, limited uses
>rocketpodslol
>>530708817Here's how to faceroll squid bricks. It's extremely easy and makes for an exceptionally dull mission. Like all brick missions really. I really wish that they'd remove bricks outright because it's slow and boring and a lame waste of my time.
You only need two stratagems to completely and utterly cockblock everything in the squid reinforcement waves:
>Grenade wall emplacementIt has a very short cooldown and gives you a grenade launcher with a 60 round drum. This completely and utterly obliterates absolute everything in squid drops with the sole exception of the harvester. Which is countered by
>EATJust spam a bunch of EATs on the ground near your grenade wall. Use the grenades to vaporize everything that isn't a harvester then grab some EATs to one shot the harvesters.
that's it. You win. You've got two more stratagems to play around with. Maybe toss some AC and MG turrets vaguely off to the sides of the field where they drop in. Maybe spam some mines along the approach to you. Maybe wear a shield diaper. Maybe toss an MG sentry into your backline where the only enemy that it can possibly engage are random stringrays that spawn.
>>530707371insane post
take your meds
>>530710037Whatever you say gucci, a single EAT callin still destroys everything slightly dangerous in a d10 bug breach. What a joke faction, even the squids are harder.
>>530710181Man, i always hoped for it, but i never believed it had an actual chance of happening.
>>530710037What's the point of acting tough like this when we all know you're a sissy with a tight ass just begging for a strong man to stretch you out?
>>530710215Exactly.
>>530710545Is Halo even still popular? It hasn't had a good game since Reach.
>>530710181>>530710545The ODST crossover is obvious, the question is: which Halo weapons are we getting?
>>530710430>one shot every 18 second under peak conditions, but you're completly exposed while charging for three seconds. this shit ain't dealing with AT-ATs unless your snipingThat sounds like a skill issue.
>>530710650Well, i think there's plenty of old Halo fans (like me) who want to see Halo shine again, despite like you said, not getting a good game since Reach.
>>530694618 (OP)>ApollonianMINOTAUR!
MINOTAUR!
MINOTAUR!
>>530708817flying nigger actually
>>530710650Master Chief is the 23rd highest rated skin in Fortnite, out of a total 2278. He stands next to Spider-Man and Deadpool in terms of rankings. Halo is still a cherished memory in people's heads. It's just that people had the sense to move on after 343i fucked the franchise into oblivion.
>>530710668If it were to make the most sense, it'd be the silenced SMG and silenced pistol from the ODST game. And then the armors would be the ODST variants from 2A and 3/Reach seen here
>>530710545
>Xbros join
>See over $100 worth of warbonds
>"woah, this game is p2w"
>3/4 of them quit
Screenshot this post, it's gonna happen just like this
>>530711187Uhm sweaty it's not p2w, you can just grind for 300 hours to earn it all for free!
>>530710668Odst smg and Sniper rifle as primary. Odst pistol as secondary. Rocket launcher as support weapon (no backpack)
>>530711187Of course it is. Xniggers aren't exactly intelligent, after all. That's why they are niggers.
>>530711187>Another live service game alienates new players with an overwhelming cash shop>Except this cash shop contains actual game content>Except this game isnt even f2pAbsolutely insane, the greed spoke about in the bible
>>530711187The only people that I know who own xbawkses are people that don't buy games. They just play whatever gamepass tells them to play.
>>530711187That's why I always said they need to add a prostitution system where newbie Helldivers can sell their digital asses to old experienced vets in exchange for super credits. It gives a reason for vets to spend SC and a way for newbies to get easy SC.
>>530711187Normalfags love microtransactions dude
>>530710215>>530710268>>530710590>>530710542This is the hill that the EATroon will die on to defend bringing 2 AT stratagems to a joke faction
Owari da....
Some of y'all chuddies need this reminder
>>530711968face le heckin wall
>>530711440The Halo sniper rifle would be great as a primary considering how it works.
>4 rounds per magazine>5 spare mags>Colossal recoil because you're not a SpartanI know it didn't have recoil in 3:ODST either, but that felt more like a concession considering no guns besides full auto weapons had recoil in any of the past games. You could easily balance the Halo sniper in Helldivers by making it a massive, unwieldly monster that's completely useless in close range due to horrible handling, but in exchange make it heavy armor penetrating and just decimate anything you shoot.
>>530711968No, i don't think i will
>>530711968Dying on the bug farms for super earth is just the same as dying for kikes in the mudlands
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>>530712316Spit yo shit my nigger
>>530711968As if reality is so wholesome.
>>530710545Be honest.
If given the option, would you replace your super destroyer with a Halo ship?
been a while since I played this
has there been an update to the chinese arrows?
>confidently wrong for 3 days straight while getting absolutely BTFO'd at every turn
>is portuguese(which sounds fittingly close to porch monkey)
Could not be me in the slightest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPFiKEm-oNI
>Democracy protects
>Double Edge
>Stun Lance
>Arc 'nade
>Warp Pack
>Plas Epoch
>500KG
>Mortar Sentry
Yep, it's Dare Diving time.
>>530713006worry not, with the mass of brazillians moving into the country, soon 'portugal' will simply be the name of the 27th state of Brazil.
EAT is nigh certainly among the top 5 most used stratagems. You can really tell they smoke all kinds of tricked out drugs in old poortugal.
>>530711968>they don't realize they already live in a managed democracy and that it embodies the fullness of an existential Hell
>>530711187It costs like 5 bucks to get every warbond if you pay a cheater.
>>530713370>EAT is nigh certainly among the top 5 m-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>530713929>make believe stats
>>530713263>he forgot about the peak gamble core strategems
I thought we agreed that Quasar ranks dead last in its class due to laughably long cooldown
>>530707235Spot free'd up 3/4
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>>530714454quasar is the weenie hut jr of support weapons
>>530714454It's a convenience pick when you expect to be carried by more responsible AT-carrying teammates.
>>530714454Shitty players don't understand, all they see is no dropoff and infinite ammo.
>>530713929I'm surprised people even still use diaper shield outside of eagle storms. Reactive defense like that shield is far shittier than proactive defense that is the brap dog.
>>530714284helldive dot live is based on a bot that autojoins into d7-d10 lobbies and copies the stats into a sheet before disconnecting
funnily, you can see literally every screenshot it's ever taken in case you don't believe it
>>530711968One of my friends send me this thread.
They unironically think that the Starship Troopers setting is making fun of right wingers.
I can't even fathom the level of mental gymnastics you'd have to be on to think this, even for redditors that seems insane.
>>530715303It intended to. The problem with this sort of media is it consistently makes the "bad guys" look cool and justified.
>A common crutch point is that the Federation "faked" the asteroid hitting Buenos Aires so they could recruit more people for the war>Except it was actually the bugs as confirmed by Verhoeven himself in the DVD commentary
>>530714796It has its merits. The dog can't stop a bullet coming from 100m away behind you nor can it prevent you from flinching right before you fire your AT (especially nice for the quasaars with their long ass windup).
>>530714454Quasar technically gives you more shots per minute, which puts its theoretical long term Anti-tank throughput above its peers.
>>530715303It's because of the confusion over the movie.
The author of the book made starship troops about his vision of an ideal libertarian society (at war).
A communist who hated it and thought it was evil made the movie in an attempt to prove people would be disgusted by it.
>>530705130>mostlyyou may now proceed to dilate, slippers
>>530714782It is though. I use it on blitz exclusively, but I can see where it comes from.
>D10 have multiple hulks presence at any time>Call commando>4 dead hulks if you lucky to hit the eyes multiple time, 2 if not.>100 seconds waiting, same shit with EAT at 60 seconds (you have to pick up the second launcher which may be blocked already)>Use quasar>15 seconds cooldown>4 dead hulk per minute
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>>530715526>the bugs totally planned to attack Buenos Aires by making a cross-galaxy trick shot where they bounced an asteroid off of a battlecruiser that deviated from its scheduled routeVerhoeven understood Star Ship troopers so badly that he's wrong about his own fanfiction.
>>530715526No the problem was the fact that the director didn't even read any of the books and hated it. Whilst the writer loved it and wanted to make a faithful adaptation to the novels.
>>530714284>>530715016It gets worse.
>check helldive.live>supply pack+quasar is top 3 on both factions>is also gucci's favorite pickUh oh...Could it be that he's just a shitter metaslave that can't play the game with anything else and seethes and teamkills when he sees others doing well with other weapons? And he only gets 500 kills on bugs even with THAT
so pathetic lmao
>>530715526Yea, and you know, the fact that everything in the setting is libertarian utopia thinking.
>>530715641>The Director was a communist There is no way.
If this is real we live in a simulation and a very funny one at that.
>>530716039>quasar suppack>"meta"i...
>>530716039RR will always be the king
>>530707115>>530707428I need a clan elemental to crush my head between her thighs
>>530715710>15 seconds cooldown >+3 second charge time>actually only 3 dead hulks per minute, assuming you have one chasing you around at all times and aren't wasting any of the uptime
>>530715581Yes but it also eats up your s.weapon slot full time, whereas with EAT+Commando you can just use the Commando to pop hulks, turrets, tanks, snipe bulkfab vents, EAT for fabs, striders and even bring a third s.weapon strat like a laser cannon to shoot gunships/use as a primary because you're powerleveling the Constitution or whatever.
>>530715673>Unarmored tanks die to 1 strafe, armored tanks die to 2 strafes or 2 pyros or 1 thermite or AP4 heatsink if it's not facing you>Factory strider dies to 3 pyros/2 thermites or get neutered by shooting the miniguns with AP3You first, botnigger.
>>530696114False memory bias, you aren't actually timing it
Go into a mission right now, throw down a turret, check the time, and come back in four minutes
>>530716594What, as opposed inputting strat, waiting, and running for it. It's convenient and you don't have to be bogged by stationary reload like RR does especially under heavy fire like bot drops. I'm not using it on regular mission since commando is enough, but on blitz the infinite ammo is more convenient since you don't know if you can finish it early.
>>530716039Didn't you say that EAT was meta? Wouldn't that make (You) the meta slave, retard-kun.
D10, lobby chooses
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>>530715710killing multiple hulks within 15 seconds once every minute is better than killing 3 hulks over a minute.
and doing it at the press of a button is also better than doing it by holding a button, if you bring quasar for hulks you might aswell bring laser since it has the same time to hold down th button to kill a hulk.
>>530716969>Furry nigger>VAC banPottery
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This is unironically the only thing I care about in this warbond and maybe the plasma too actually, but the rest is just meh.
captcha : AYOYX
>>530716925The main point was that you're bad at math and retarded because you're overestimating the shot output by 33% by ignoring the charge time, but complaining about a stationary reload under fire is hilarious when you're advocating something that has a significant charge time where you need to poke your head out of cover and be on target while praying to not get flinched while the RR deletes the first target instantly and then you can be behind a rock if you need to delete a second.
>>530716685>>530716950No matter how much you seethe on cooldown, bugs will never be a hard faction and you will always be a moortuguese shitter that can only use crutches, gucci
Back to the foxhole clan discord with you
>they finally add a laser turret with infinite ammo
>it will blow up when there's more than 5 enemies around
Honestly, I should've expected this.
>>530717536>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>530717462You can do something else while it recharges though like paying attention to chaff units or running away, instead spreading your butthole to commissar or a 2nd hulk.
>epoch will be a better quasar since it will have an unsafe mode
what will the cope be? drop? projectile speed?
>>530714579Restarted
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>>530717878>I have to run away from the second hulk for 15 second and find a way to distract him long enough not to die during my 3 seconds of stationary charging>if there is a third hulk or other heavy, I get to repeat this!>clearly this is the superior option
>>530717954Drop and damage fall off most likely
does the new warbond helmets have voice distortion or am I just hearing things
>>530694618 (OP)>minigunshotgun that is also the meme punt gun one anon always wanted>zap grenade 2 arclectric boogaloo>fuel rod gun mega purifier>telefrag pack>infinite chaffwipe laser sentryAlexus is dead in a ditch somewhere, for real this time
>>530718228>I have to run away from the second hulk for 15 second Botxisters, not like this....
>>530718228You don't have to run away. You just cower behind one of your big, brawny teammates, letting them protect you.
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>>530718141Join us! We're fun to farm with!
>>530705869>>530706252>gucci niggersREMEMBER WHAT HE DID TO Y
>>530706467oh nevermind you're already on it
If there's a halo weapon I want it's the classic shotgun
Give it medium armor pen and I am happy
>>530711968Only retardditors could miss that Managed Democracy isn't a fictional dictatorship but rather is literally how the west already functions
i can't overstate of good it feels to know that the "person" samefagging and who has been shitting up the general for over a year is some jeet-adjacent brown that obsesses over larping in a fucking milsim
Nerftroons, this is who you are represented by.
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>it's ap2
kekmao
>Want the closest thing to an all arc-build? lmao best spent 3000 SC on
>Cutting Edge for the Blitzer and Electrical Conduit armors
>Force of Law for the De-Escalator grenade launcher and K9 Guard Dog
>Control Group for the Arc Grenades
>>530706818you know how you might have been stuck on naming a character in some game as a kid and just picked some flavor or thing you like? this is the equivalent for a brown person that collects as many sneakers as he can afford with every paycheck
>>530719757You need more?
>>530704292>>530719605You can fucking google that in 3 seconds.
>>530719757What is? The volley gun?
>>530719749a jeet adjacent brown in a country of semi browns who no doubt disdain him and who is somehow almost all of the worst posters in the entire general simultaneously
he needs to be BZZZZT'd stat
>>530719962yes you can see variable rounds ricocheting off a dev chest in the trailer
Everyone assumes the crossover is halo themed, watch we're getting the retro lancer and COG armor.
>>530719605Red means you penned and did full damage.
White means reduced damage cause the armor value meets.
Ricochets do nothing unless they bounce and hit a nearby enemy.
>>530704292You get a white marker if their armor value is equal to your weapon's penetration. You deal 65% damage as their armor is still somewhat effective.
You get a red marker if their armor value is less than your weapon's penetration. You do full damage.
And yes, if you don't penetrate you're doing nothing.
>>530719771oh but i thought you didn't mind paying, piggie? guess you should have been grinding with the bros while you had a chance
>>530720171but what if I want the regular lancer so I can casually BBBRRRRRRRVVVVVVVRRRRRRRRRRVRRRRRUUUMMMMMRRRRRR through bugs and give berserkers a taste of their own medicine?
We're gonna get the sticky nade.
Things that I wish that they'd fix with the UI.
>Make it more apparent how many spare magazines are remaining for the gundog. It can be impractical to count the small black magazines on the backpack during a hectic fight amidst the commonly very poor lighting conditions in this game.
>I wish that the cooldown timers for your own stratagems were displayed when you open the map.
>>530719757And? AP2 is perfectly functional.
Give us an enemy with AP10 armor all over its body and no weak points
>>530720583>DOWN IN FRONT!
>>530720452>He thinks AH can fucking code the chainsaw bayoneteven if by some miracle they did do it it'd be buggy as shit and you'd probably clip into an enemy and get warped into the shadow realm or launched into the terrain at mach 5
>>530720171only if they add crouch sprinting
Halo update.
Light armor is the H3 marine armor (warbond)
Med armor is the 3:ODST armor(warbond)
Heavy armor is the H2/3 mersder jerf armor (cash shop)
New passive armor effect for all 3 is a slow passive health regen after not being attacked for X seconds.
Weapons are med pen H3 assault rifle (warbond), heavy pen H1 pistol (warbond), Antitank H2 fuel rod cannon (warbond), and heavy pen energy sword (cash shop).
Stratagems are non-backpack energy shielding (takes less damage than the pack shield to pop, can only regen when not being damaged, but recovers faster than the pack shield) and calling in the pelican to provide fire support in an area.
And UNSC paintjobs for the vehicles.
>>530720045Well it shouldn't be too bad despite that. As I imagine it does a shitton of damage to compensate. Plus it has [Shotgun] mode with 7 shots. And [SUPER shotgun mode] with one (1) shot.
>>530719771why would you skip the arc thrower in your arc build
>>530720754>can't kill a dev with chest shotsnah it's a pointless handicap
>>530721046Best AH can do is an ODST set with the smg.
343 Designs too
That'll be 800 SC sir.
>>530720824>scream, charge, apply chainsaw to stunned Charger face>immediate physics yank to rocket along and completely explode its back armor, launched at a 45 degree angle>fly five straight seconds before crashing headfirst into a mountain on the other side of the mapmy spinal discs: crushed, my vertebral column: stolen
>>530721046YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS i want to be the master chief
>>530721267Thank goodness devs are only on one of three factions.
>>530721046>He thinks we're getting a Master Chief skinNot even Halofags are asking for an MC skin.
>>530721331Your pants: shat
>>530719757none of the bugs require ap3, you retard
The ODST armor and silenced weapons will finally give stealthfags what they've been wanting all this time
>>530721807why did you shit my pant? Who shat in my pants? My shat should not be pant
>>530721267Bro, your legs?
>>530722037please no I want a properly themed hellranger warbond
>>530722057they're not okay
>>530721802This, what the fuck is this retarded shit.
>>530721802I don't know what else they'd do for the obligatory cash shop armor, I welcome an alternative.
Who are the anons I should know to KOS? I remember there being a pink list but it was blurred (I was on it for SC farming)
can all the halo fags please fuck off, your franchise is gay dogshit
>>530722710Pilestedt himself confirmed with a pic that Master Chief shit isn't happening. Someone else post the pic, i don't have it.
Another game where pubby called down napalm mines on a civilian evac
>>530722363>"I'm not african, i'm nigerian"
>>530722901>cuckstationfags can have their helghast (most iconic part of killzone) but xboxchads can't have our master chieffuck snoy and fuck yall
>>530722859Eat shit nigger
>>530720754I wouldn't know. I haven't used an ap2 simce, like, the game released.
>>530722710See
>>530710545The gold visored ODST is the design from the ODST game/Reach. The designs around him are the models from Halo 2 Anniversary. Both of these designs could happily make it into a Warbond, and the precedent for the one collab we have with Killzone is two skins.
Other than that, people would just want some of the basic UNSC weaponry. The SPNKr maybe as a stratagem, the BR or AR, the silenced SMG or silenced pistol etc.
If we got a Halobond it'd probably have spartan armor but not specifically master chiefs armor
>>530723071Fuck you retard. It would be fucking retarded. We're Helldivers, read that again, HELLDIVERS. We'll get ODST shit. Soiling MC's armor by giving it to random retards would be beyond stupid and would look stupid too.
Please hang yourself, literal 14yo faggot.
>>530723076https://x.com/Halo/status/1940063106798907838
ok tranny
>>530708817lower the difficulty
>they've forgotten ODST exists
When's the new warbond and can anyone link me a video of it? I want to know if warp pack will act like hd1 emergency warp or is it controllable warp.
last time I used AP3 was Scorcher on squids. imagine being a cucked pen value that is outclassed by AP4 and outdps'd by AP2
>>530722904>extracting against plebbitor bugs>hear "calling down a sentry" while I'm busy holding back the swarm with my blitzer>turn around just in time to see that pvt dumbass dropped a Gatling sentry smack dab in the middle of our defensive position>it wipes half the team before I can destroy it.I don't know how these people remember to breathe.
>>530723536July 17th. Warp pack is controllable. Safe on first warp, deals damage on second, kills you on third. You can wait so its safe again.
Doesnt sound super useful, but looks mega fun
>>530723438shut the fuck up bitch
if you can have your helghast we can have our master chief
fuck your ass sony bitch
im glad cuckzone died btw
>>530723715medpen simply is what makes the most sense for your primary slot, similar to how heavy pen makes the most sense for your support slot
>>530723438>Soiling MC's armor by giving it to random retards would be beyond stupid and would look stupid too.You don't care about that, stop acting like you do, zoomer.
>>530723765>Doesnt sound super usefulIt was shown in the trailer damaging enemies both in position A and B upon use. It's an instantaneous jetpack that also has a damage component, and the option to hit an instant second jump if you really need it. It's a straight upgrade.
>>530723827You're a fucking retard, dude. I played CE on release, bought all the games up to Reach, and Chief would be retarded as a skin in this game. The ODSTs aka Helljumpers are the mirror analogue to Helldivers.
>>530723931if I already have ap4 SW, I don't need medpen for anything because my SW already deals with it
>>530724039youre a faggot and a bitch
fucking retarded bitch
i bet if i pull out my cock right now youd suck it you little fucking bitch
get your lips on it slut
>>530723765>>530724030IMO it depends on how practical it is for scaling vertical spaces, and how much control we have over the precise destination point.
I'm unsure how that will play out. The cooldown timer is important too. It may have similar potential for backdooring bases that the jetpack allows, while also having the utility of being a rechargeable grenade to telefrag things with. Can a well placed teleport close a bughole? Can we blink in place to double-hit a charger/fleshmob with both entry and exit telefrags?
>>530724084and what do I need light pen for if I can have medpen instead?
>>530723765Oh I have whole week to get the last 200 something SC for the warbond, nice. Sounds pretty good too. RAZOR CHAIN FROM HD1 FUCKING WHEN. HEAL GUN WHEN. SINGLE USE ACTUALLY USEFUL MECHS WHEN
>4th faction is made up entirely of bad Indian CGI
>tfw autocannon chad so forced to permawear peak physique
>>530724039>I played CE on releaseYou weren't even born when CE released.
>>530724121>unprompted homosexual fantasy
>>530724121brown underage post
the longer this game goes on the more I realize Arrowhead aren't nearly as competent or intelligent as I believed them to be
>>530724446I have used autocannon for 1000 gameplay hours and peak physique for 0 gameplay minutes
>>530724293majority of bugs and squids who reward light pen with higher ammo cap faster fire rate or more damage? bors if you have a better hand eye coordination than your grandma as well.
medpen is literally the most useless pen value with like the distinction of being "great for consoleniggers who go for the hardened parts of enemies" and even that point, the ERUPTOR just brutally shitcans every medpen weapon in terms of power and efficiency .
literally 0 (zero) use case for ap3
>>530724586They really cooked for the base of the game, the gameplay, how good it feels to shoot and kill stuff, like all the basics are fucking solid. But it seems like everything else is shit and/or undercooked.
>>530724465The world didn't start with you, zoomer.
>>530723827>if you can have your helghast we can have our master chiefA Spartan's survivability would be so far in excess of a Helldiver's it'd be comical. They have fucking carbide ceramic grafted into their bones.
>>530724039Shut the fuck up Gucci
>i'm fucking posting in the same thread as people born in the 2000s
Please shut the fuck up, we won't get a Master Chief armor, it would be retarded, the end.
What if instead of master chief it was master chef with a big cooking hat
WE WANT THE MASTER CHIEF RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>530724675>bugs>squidssorry no my mother didn't drink during pregnancy so I can't take those factions seriously
there are zero upsides to light pen vs bots other than longer mags and higher ergo which you shouldn't need as the aimgod you proclaim yourself as
>>530725227Go download the mod then, retard.
>>530725384stfu i want you to see it faggot
>>530725227more like master queef
lol!!!
you must be some 10 year old retard to think master chief will be in the game
think for more than one nanosecond
would sony be okay with a halo crossover?
>>530725469Underage behavior. Go play fucking Fortnite you nigger. There won't be a Master Chief armor in this fucking game.
I don't want a Halo crossover. I like my Helldivers.
>>530725640then remove helghast armor fucking bitch
why do i have to see snoy slop in my game
fuck killzone and fuck cuckstation
faggot
>>530725629A really dumb question considering the game is coming out on the Xbox next month. Very likely half the reason this is even happening is Sony saw the $ signs regarding a Halo collab which was the most requested collab across the fandom.
hello i am mastur ch33f lolololol
>>530725318name one medpen weapon and its use case on bots.
I bet 100$ paypal that either the eruptor, or any respectable light pen weapon will do better for that use case.
>>530725726you mad, killzone > halo
am not even a snoy
but you fags keep going on and on and on about your gaylo
snoys didn't say a thing and it was a nice collab
>>530725807taking down gunships at distances beyond 500m
>>530725726See, you can tell this individual is brown because Arabic and its offshoots use staggered sentences that almost resembles a fucking haiku.
>>530725830definitely a snoy
xbox won cuckstation boy
>>530725726Holy shit you fucking underage schizo, its a game literally published by playstation. I'm a Halo fan and even I know you're fucking retarded and delusional. Whats wrong with you ?
>>530725830lol hahahaha killzone is dead and buried while halo is still alive
and now snoy's only good exclusive shooter is coming to xbox
XBOXCHADS WON
>>530725890eruptor is better
>>530725954>>530725830>>530725726>He's just arguing with himself now
>>530725954>hahahaha killzone is dead and buried while halo is still aliveI wish Halo were dead because it's a shuffling undead abomination now.
>>530725954you wish halo was also dead instead of being the shitshow it is now
>>530726001glorified grenade launcher with bad effective range
galactic war? no
console war? yes
>literal console war underages browns in my thread
what the fuck
>>530725890laughably inefficient. you'd need 2-4 mags that a laser cannon or AMR or AC could do in 3 shots/3 seconds
>>530725935you sound like a giant sissy and a bitch
>>530726169DCS downs gunships in 6, Deadeye in 4 hits
>>530726083but still better at taking down gunships at 500m+ than ANY ap3 primary in the game without exception
>>530726297And you are 14.
>>530715526>It intended to. Arguable. People say Verhoeven made it so but I'm pretty sure that's not what anyone really saw. Unless you go into deep super-cope theories like "it's all propaganda (which are stupid too - propaganda shouldn't show your soldiers getting clowned on so easily, and they had live news coverage getting literally eaten because they were so dedicated to delivering the truth) it really doesn't hold water. I don't like to use additional content like dev commentary as arguments but that's where half the arguments about "it's making fun of fascism t. Verhoeven come from anyway, and there the writer (Edward Neumeier, also made RoboCop and the Starship Troopers sequels but we don't talk about those) says he liked the book a lot and he and many people did their best to portray it faithfully.
It is fucking retarded Starship Troopers even became controversial that way.
>>530726308eruptor does it in 1
sorry ap3sissy.. make room for the giant cock of the ap4GOD
There is no console war retards, 99 out of 100 divers ITT play on PC. You're feeding la creatura portuguesa's latest samefagging and disruption scheme.
Modders have got their hands on the warp pack, seems a bit buggy though
>>530726548Moortuguese faggot just can't stop fucking the thread up
medpen smalldicks fear the BEC
>>530710668Slienced SMG
Automag
AR or BR
SPNKr or Stanchion for support
>>530723827uh oh gucci slippers melty
>>530726348you got proofs of hitting something with eruptor across 500m because that's pretty good
I'd wager your longest shot with that abomination wasn't even half as long
>>530725758bing bing wahoo
>>530726872just because you're trash at the game and you need your medpen crutch doesn't mean everyone is dogshit as well
>>530724763It's got Star Wars Syndrome. The further you explore the setting the more you realize how shallow and infantile its audience's interpretation really is. Not saying George Lucas is a genius or anything, but a valid argument can be made that the Republic deserved to be destroyed because it sowed the seeds of its own demise. The Jedi were ostentatiously hypocritical and ineffectual, but they're the "good guys" and everyone sucks their dicks.
Helldiver runs down the opposite side of that lane. The faceless deathsquads are intended to be portrayed as the bad guys despite the fact they embody heroism because they're propped up and abused by an authoritarian government. From Arrowhead's perspective they're "brainwashing" you and you must be dumb if you see any positive qualities in these soldiers that are fanatically pursuing what they have been raise to believe is the right thing to do.
tl;dr Jedi are gay, Helldivers are heroes, and the "media literate" are about as sharp as a dull butter knife.
>>530727051>buzzwordsis this thread just filled with underages
>>530727151uh oh AP3 MELTY!!!!!
medpen small dick is insecure again!
>>530727051making the all around smarter choice isn't exactly the same as leaning on a crutch
Is there a point in having more than 54 ergonomics?
>>530708319>Is EAT useless if you don't have the ship module that insta launches support weapons?no, it just makes it better. EAT was perfectly usable when that upgrade didn't exist (and that was when heavies spawned more frequently too) so it's still perfectly usable without it now
>>530727242the all around smarter choice is the eruptor. all of the advantages with no downsides. ap3 has no place in the meta currently.
>>530708319It's useless with all the upgrades.
>>530727368supermassive cope
what relevance will Eruptor have once there's a heavy pen DMR?
>>530727135On the subject of Helldivers being heroes. Helldivers have canonicaly chosen to liberate a planet of sick children (for no reward), over a planet of anti-tank mines
>warbond announcement
>thread immediately filled with retards
>>530727368Using the eruptor means I'm not leveling any other primaries so no.
>>530727181>500mlooks more 150ish
>>530727534ALARM ALARM
AP3 MELTY DETECTED!
EVERYONE VACATE THE THREAD!!!
AHAHAHAHAH
WHAT RELEVANCE WILL ANY AP3 WEAPONS HAVE ONCE THERES A HEAVY PEN DMR?
>WHAT RELEVANCE WILL ANY AP3 WEAPONS HAVE ONCE THERES A HEAVY PEN DMR?WHAT RELEVANCE WILL ANY AP3 WEAPONS HAVE ONCE THERES A HEAVY PEN DMR?
>WHAT RELEVANCE WILL ANY AP3 WEAPONS HAVE ONCE THERES A HEAVY PEN DMR?medpen melty!
>>530726872>you got proofs of hitting something with eruptor across 500m because that's pretty goodDon't eruptor shells self-destruct after a certain distance? I don't remember when because it's beyond the average engagement range in this game, but I think that they destruct at some range less than 300m.
>>530727709260m
t. webm poster
id like to see him down a gunship with an AP3 from 500 though
>>530727602It should be noted that in order to "praise" players for choosing heroism the company decided to virtue signal. It wasn't enough that Helldivers actively subverted Arrowhead's expectations, they had to throw some paltry sum at a charity and act like THEY'RE the good guys.
>Trooncord continues to schizo out on random posters
>>530727784more mag capacity and higher ergonomics ratings, same as light to med pen
>>530728252so if light pen is better than medpen at ergo and mag and fire rate
and ap4 is better at damage and pen value
what place do ap3 have in the meta, other than being a shitty jack-of-all-master-of -none gimmick pick?
what stops me from bringing an ap2 primary with an ap4 support?
>>530724586You didn't figure that out at launch?
>>530728494I mistook some accidentally based plot elements for intentionally based plot elements.
>>530728830my fuarking hero
>>530728485>what place do ap3 have in the metabeing higher damage and more reliable than ap2 without any drawbacks of note
you do not need long mags nor generous ammo economy and max ergo, those things are what has no place in the meta anymore post the disastrous 60 day patch
>>530715762To be fair, in Helldivers it is all humanity's fault.
Much like this thing I'm currently watching is humanity's fault.
https://youtu.be/k_bKjwoLUP0
>>530702375>You can kill 3 heavies with it if youโre skilled enough with the hellpod countdown or sticking it to the enemy.>You can spam it everywhere and essentially allow teammates who ran out of AT can just grab one and solve the heavy problem>Quasar bros can borrow your unused EAT in case they missed instead of waiting another 15 seconds>Dont have to deal with having to run across the map to grab your gear when you died because a solo retard decided it would be funny reinforcing you on the other end of the mapEAT is enough for bugs on D10
EAT + Commando is great if youโre going for porta bomby on bots D10
Commando is better than EAT for squids since harvester and stingrays just takes one commando shot
>there's fetuses in this thread that think Master Chief is some holy sacred religious figure to never be desecrated
He was desecrated in his own games from 4 onward. He's in fucking Fortnite doing the floss dance. If you think Microsoft is above whoring him out into a Helldivers armor set, you're delusional.
With that said, we're still not getting him as an armor set because AH does not have the kind of money Microsoft would demand for that to happen. A random generic spartan armor set, maybe, and that's already a huge maybe. But Spartan-117 in his iconic green MJOLNIR armor? No chance. I don't even think AH would want Master Chief in their game. Not for rude reasons, but he is an Xbox icon, and AH is all about the Sony. It would already be lucky enough if we actually get an ODST -and exclusively ODST content- warbond.
>>530729161Nice copout.
we've established that ap2 shits on ap3 on bugs and squids but I can tell you that it shits on ap3 on bots as well.
other than being less ammo efficient, they have no drawbacks.
they offer bigger mags to clear troopers and chaff.
they can leg dump devastators if you're shit, and their headshot ttk is equal or better than those of ap3.
they can blow up strider rockets
they can kill hulks through the vent just like ap3.
ap3 primaries have NOTHING going for them other than being able to kill a rare enemy that's either spawned with a map setpiece secondary objective or a planetary modifier.
AP3 really has no real use-case on bots.
>>530729584again, ap2 offers no advantages of note
>*Grabs your dick and teleports away with it*
How do you respond?
>>530729792you said it yourself.
mag size
ergonomics
less recoil
fire rate
ap2 has all the advantages
Cold Planets? Iโll take Quasar
Any other planets? Iโll take EAT instead
>>530729161Technically, enemies that match ap2 receive something like 35% less damage, so they deal the same damage to like half the "light armor" roster as medium ap.
>>530729810Defect to the automatons, get a cyberdick, then track down the bratty leandiver that did it and brutally rape her.
>>530729810Wait does this mean we can finally get into bunkers as solos? I know if you don't open the doors you can't interact with stuff inside but maybe Swedes will change it?
>>530730020name 6 enemies that are exactly ap2 go
>>530729810look again, you never grabbed it, it is too small.
>>530729895do you know what "of note" means
other than the recoil, everything you named is barely relevant, QoL shit
just conserve your ammo better
just tactical reload
just aim faster
just don't stoop to magdumping
>>530730281they are still clear cut advantages though. you didn't refute the point, you just said that ap2 is just a bit better than ap3.
I'll accept your concession though
Didn't played this game for like 3 weeks, I forgot how fucking awful the performance is on this piece of shit, feels worse than before.
>>530730038>Defect to the automatons, get a cyberdickhttps://youtu.be/G8Ifaeff0mA
>>530729303>EAT is enough for bugs on D10You can instantly tell this post was made by a botnigger that has never seen a heavy bug seed.
>>530729989For me it's more like:
>Am I using a jetpack? Quasar>Is it a blitz mission where I expect my pubbie teammates to somehow waste time and run out the clock? Quasar so that I'm not left high and dry after the destroyer withdraws>Bug mission where we'll be closing a mega nest? EAT as an extra option for closing the BT hole. EATs in general tend to be a bit better vs bugs since the EAT pod is good vs chargers, and BT's tend to pivot 45 degrees and block their face with their legs while the quasar is charging.They're all good enough though. None of them are throwing.
>>530730631dissidence is the question
fire is the answer
>>530730631Bugs? Torcher
Bots? Torcher
Squids? torcher
>>5307307192 people bringing EATs and literally no other AT on anyone else is more than enough for a heavy bugs seed though.
I play d10 only.
Remember when they "updated the AI to do more calculations" but it did fuck all except make performance worse
>>530730075Surely ah have prepared for this possibility
>>530730412you will take another while to accept this but when arrowhead blew the lid off player power to appease reddit and removed all incentive to be clever about your resources the perviously crucial efficiency of ap2 primaries lost all value
>>530730075the items don't spawn until you open the noor
>>530730720Ignore the niggers in the thread, all the AT options are good except maybe Spear.
>>530731042>AP3s only advantage is being more ammo efficient and conserving resourcesyou will take another while to accept this but when arrowhead blew the lid off player power to appease reddit and removed all incentive to be clever about your resources the perviously crucial efficiency of ap3 primaries lost all value
>>530727534nta, the eruptor will continue to bolt out huge fragmentation rounds with not good ergo & gyrojet ballistics. a primary heavy DMR or light AMR/primary AT rifle will be slugging out bolty AMR/HMG caliber bullets or falling block single shot AC shells respectively which will both be better for accurate weakspot sniping and refire rate, with superior ergo and ballistics in exchange for no or shitall splash/okay splash but less ridiculous frag. They'll all continue to have their objective use cases as well as 'it just feels right to me' fanbases plus further considerations based on what secondaries and supports they're being paired with.
also I don't think any of this pen warfare is real it's just gucci niggers trying to distract from his being a moortuguese resident racial jeet
>Boots up the game.
>Plays exlusively D7 and D8
>The word "meta" doesn't exist in his vocabulary
>"Hmm, this weapon look fun, I think I'll use it"
I exclusively use the Quasar in all content.
>>530731258>>AP3s only advantage is being more ammo efficient and conserving resourcesthe irony is that this is wrong, ap3 is just reliable and easy to use
>>530731282oh saar.
I can assure you saar.
the pen warfare is VERRY real saar.
there is not scamming going on here saar.
legit bidzniss operashun saar.
Trust me saar, I am from macrosoft.
do not think the pen poster is the ironic, saar.
he really thinks his gun is gooder.
Trust me on this saar.
>>530731603so if its easier to use why does it have shittier ergo and slower reload speed than ap2?
if its more reliable why does it have bigger recoil and lower magazine than ap2?
Ah it seems I was mistaken. The warp pack actually has a higher chance of killing you if you spam it.
>first one
Safe
>second one
Minor chance of instant death
>third one
High chance of instant death
Basically any warps beyond the first warp has a a chance of killing you.
Gamblemaxxing
>>530731258Eruptor just isn't fun, let it overpen straight through a fagstrider I still won't pick it
>>530730719Nah. You don't need any more than EAT for bugs. 3 Heavies every 55 seconds is more than enough and I say this as a bugnigger who dives mostly bugs and squids.
>Oh shit there's an impaler!Thats why I bring Strafing Run only for impalers or far away bug holes if I ran out of nades
>3 Chargers chasing your ass!That's why I have this baby for killing the whole horde and chargers
>2 BTs!By the time I finished killing the chargers and impalers, I can call down another EAT to kill one with the hellpod then instantly kill the other with EAT
Look man, I dont mind Quasar. I bring it when it's on a cold planets. But even on the heavy bug seeds where there's 3 Bile Titans and 5 chargers pop up in a single breach, I still don't have a problem since I always bring Strafing Run, Gas Dog and EAT for bugs.
>>530731153Spear needs some love. Its only real thing was killing fabricators and then they killed that. I'd honestly rate RR as the 2nd worst simply due to the opportunity cost of taking it.
Don't get me wrong. RR is probably our best "dedicated anti-tank man" support weapon in terms of raw tankbusting power. But we just don't see enough heavies on D10 that need an anti-tank weapon to kill. We haven't ever since AH nerfed enemy spawns and buffed our kit. I think it is arguably gross over-commitment to the anti-tank role and that greater value can be achieved with stuff like EAT/commando/quasar that allow access to different backpacks. Doubly so if you're playing with pubbies that will probably waste the resupplies in the middle of fucking nowhere.
>>530731909who asked if its """"fun""""
fun is just a buzzword anyways to justify using garbage content
>>530730887>2 people bringing EATs>*has his ball bounce into a patrol*>and literally no other AT on anyone else>*fails his support weapon clown juggle and gets overrun*>is more than enough>*gets run over by charger*>for a heavy bugs seed though.>*respawns and gets farmed again while running to his EAT pod*>I play d10 only>*ragequits and makes a post about how his team is retarded*
>>530732126things that never happened for 200 please
Wow fhe punisher fucking SUCKS on preds
>>530732046Nice LARP post. See
>>530732046You don't play the game retard.
>>530732126I'm so sorry that this happened to you.
Why is this general always so angry
>>530732126I understand that this happened to you, but that doesn't mean it happened to other people. other people are not you.
they aren't clumsy retards who call in their stratagems into a patrol or breach.
>>530731079They spawn just fine. If you leap through the door to clip through it in first person you can even see them, it's just that they're not enabled as pick-ups unless you actually open the door.
>>530732126So now we are just making shit up?
>>530731890I'm not sure if it's gamble maxing. The descriptions sound like heat meter to me.
>1st jump from a cold statesafe
>make an additional jump without first cooling downthe helldiver catches on fire and the heat meter is now in the danger zone
>make an extra jump again without at least cooling out of the danger zoneBOOM.
If there is RNG involved in suffering a penalty, it looks like there is a middling period where the penalty is combustion rather than instant death.
>>530732463because this game, while unique and less stale than its contemporaries, is still a massive letdown and a reddit tourist trap
>>530731285This except D10
>>530732463because you keep making the most obviously retarded and wrong bait claims like
>bugs are hard>ap3 is good>eat is badetc...
>try to land my hellpod on bile titan
>phase right through it and deal 0 damage
Lame and gay
>>530732463There is a jeet that is shitposting to stir things up. This would be apparent if all of the boards had thread IDs.
>>530732843firebomb hellpods moment
>>530732463Because this general's populace has an overlap with /coopg/'s populace.
Bugs?
>Strafing Run
>Gas Dog
>EAT
>MG Sentry
Bots?
>120mm
>Hellbomb
>EAT
>Commando
Squids?
>Strafing Run
>Gas Dog
>Commando
>MG Sentry
That's all I ever need for each front's D10s
>>530732645Might wanna take 5 minutes to cool off, big guy; I'm just a bystander watching the monkeys throwing their shit at each other.
>>530732093idk you seem to believe your argument is made for you by implying that if pen value were so important then Eruptor should be everywhere but it's just not a very versatile or convenient gun
ap3 primaries on the other hand are excellent, Deadeye, Reprimand, Adjudicator, DCS, all deserve to be A tier minimum while you wanna say they are not "da meta"
yes they are hard to ammo manage and don't come with massive ergo rating but calling them bad guns because of that is retarded, you ammo manage and aim them and get some extra power for it what's not to love
>>530729810Anyone wearing squid tech gets a 500 kilo tossed at their feet
>>530733192Why do people keep bringing MG sentries (and then barely using them) instead of jump packs anyway?
>>530733192Bugs
>EAT>MMG>500kg>gatling barrageBugs
>jetpack>AMR>strafing run>120mm barrageSquids
>I don't play squids
>>530733192bugs?
>amr>supply pack>eas>rocket sentrybots?
>amr>supply pack>eas>rocket sentrysquids?
>amr>supply pack>eas>rocket sentryyep, i'm ready
>>530733453based omnidiver
>>530733251course you are. the mommy coming to the rescue with
>STYOP FYIGHTYING>DYO NYOT BYULLY MY OTHYER PYERSONALITY OKYAY? HYE JYUST MYADE A SILLY CLYAIM
>>530733297Not him, but you basically can just use the eruptor everywhere. The thing is top tier and extraordinarily versatile. But there are a variety of different viable builds that you can assemble to defeat D10. The game isn't very hard ever since AH submitted to the bufftroons.
>>530733373*teleports behind u*
Nothin personnel kid
>>530733297>talk about fun is more important than meta>get discarded >start talking about metagosh you're so easy to control and push around...
Stop arguing about armor pen and anti-tank weapons. Instead answer this: Is Unflinching armor a crutch now?
whatever happened to the chinese SC beacon mod? got back after a long break and it crashes the game on launch now, anyone got the updated file?
>>530733653I didn't say to stop fighting though. I just asked why this general is always so angry. You're actually so angry that you're making up headcanons to justify staying angry. Really, take 5 and then get back to it.
>>530732645>>bugs are hard>>ap3 is good>>eat is badThese are all true DOE?
>>530733978you got btfo in an argument and now you're pretending to be a third person coming to the rescue of the losing side.
this is obvious.
>>530733818you haven't discarded anything I said, you only frantically denied it with flimsy arguments boiling down to something looking like "muh strider rocket muh superior chaff clear"
>>530734150I don't even know what argument you're on about, but if he got you this mad, he was probably right.
>>530734163whatever you say, Billy Bob.
I stopped taking your argument seriously after you said that ap3 is more fun than ap2 and that's why it's better
>>530724586Typing out a comment like this is the true mark of a retard, so.
>>530732645most ap3 guns basically everything except warrant are good tho
>machine gun is available on the ground without strategems in all urban areas
oh let me guess you need "more"
>>530734293you got me so good wow.
I am seething and fuming right now.
oh no I am being attacked by a >third party for being mean to the legally distinct anonymous! I better calm down and stop bullying this very hurt anon whose fee fees are in shambles.
okay mom, I will stop, pinky promise
>>530734491Yea I do need more, you by my side bro.
>>530734491>Drop into squid megacity without a support weapon>MG's are always available right?>not a single fucking MG to be found in the squidformed city.>Just lots and lots of explosive barrels.Now I just drop with a support weapon. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>530734491Your average pubshitter couldn't adapt dynamically to using anything that isn't already in their loadout.
Yes, that means they won't pick up your EAT even if there's a Charger right there to shoot with it.
>>530734315ap3 is more fun yes, but beyond that it's also just higher dps and more useful
>Light pen weapons
Plenty good options that are all more than serviceable. Use them if you enjoy them.
>Medium pen weapons
Plenty good options that are all more than serviceable. Use them if you enjoy them.
>Anti-tank
Plenty good options that are all more than serviceable. Use them if you enjoy them.
>>530734528I still didn't say to stop fighting, so I'm not sure why you keep saying that.
>>530734702ap4 is higher dps and more useful tho
>>530734778only if we're talking support weapons
>>530734892senator>adjudicator
just saying
>>530733908Everything in this game has become either a crutch or a wheelchair.
It's a reddit game that panders to mentally disabled casuals.
>>530735062For some reasons anons have this weird tribalistic autism that their weapon must be the best one because they use it, and all other weapons are unequivocally shit.
>>530735019to me Senator is not worth skipping Verdict, Loyalist, and the big dick utility sidearms for
>>530735291to me Adjudicator is not worth sacrificing my big dick eruptor or a good chaff clearing light pen powerhouse, just so I can "bodyshot" enemies instead of taking 0.3 seconds to aim at their weak area
>they're still schizoing out on random posters
>>530735543>chaff clearing light pen powerhouselmao you need a different game
gucciNIGGERS is losing it
I have taken to just stealing support stuff from fellow divers, shit like guard dogs and shields
you WILL wait another 2 minutes and I WILL enjoy your strategems, rarely ever does anyone bother to drop multiple supports so they can cry about it
>>530735617name a chaff unit that light pen cannot clear
>>530735560Everyone that isn't me is the same guy.
>>530735727you're retarded
90% all chaff get spawnkilled, you don't need a dedicated chaff clearing weapon, really just use whatever
>>530735659I drop arcdogs for teammates
>>530735621makes me miss bullying the discordtrannies. but he's such a fucking moron and replies to every bait. it's too funny how stupid he is.
>>530735727>Weapon can only clear non-threatsSwitch to pistol.
Displacer Pack just feels like a straight upgrade over the Jump Pack. It's an instant disjoint that bursts enemies with plasma damage both at the entrance and exit point. Not only will it break targeting and deals damage, it can be used at least twice in a row completely safe with no drawbacks before having to wait for a cooldown.
I use the stun baton to clear chaff.
It's fun.
>>530736253okay then I can use eruptor. based.
ap3 is dogshit then if all chaff is dead.
eruptor just kills heavies wayy better than any other primary
>>530736507who cares, killing heavies is only still a contest of who has the fastest deploying shit, no skill involved
protip: Eruptor does not deploy fast
>>530735659>ping extra supports>ping bunkers>hey does anyone wan->no response>pubbies continue to walk past with their eyes glazed over
>>530736385Holy fuck imagine Nirah in a lobby with it.
He would just be TKing everyone with it while teleporting his tight little leandiver ass around.
/hdg/ lobbies about to get nuked.
>"dont bother with viper commandos everyone takes the booster all the time"
>look at 95% of my games
>no experimental infusion booster
>>530736794Don't worry, the pubbies will bring extra lives and slightly faster pelican 1.
>>530736794there's no reason not to get every warbond
>>530736720ap2 deploys faster and has better ergo and reload speed than ap3
>>530736794Experimental Infusion is basically the 4th slot take after HSO, vitality booster, and stamina booster assuming your pubblies are relatively smart. Personally I think it's better than stamina.
Also that advice is pretty outdated now, because attachments have made the carbine really nice.
>>530736724Bunker callouts that get ignored should be punishable by a 10 minute ban. Fucking BLINDS ASS FAGGOTS REEEEEEEEEEEE
>no new red stratagem in 9 months
>enemy roster relatively unchanged since January
how does this game have more than 25k players
>>530736724Reminder: A non-negligible portion of the human species has the same IQ as a chimp.
>>530737281it's been the same "fun" for a year
>>530737229The ban system doesn't work. This has led to online being actually fun. I hope they never fix bans.
>>530737408Yup, still fun
>>530737408There is a lot of new players because they removed the region block thing sony had.
>>530737492ok but where is the content
>>530737229It's not sloptide.
>>530737807Holy fuck do I hate darktide. Everything feels llike shit and the illuminate reminds me of it. Fuck the illuminate and fuck darktide.
>>530737807Ok where is the content
>>530737162Liberator carbine is pure sex and what the base game liberator should have been. Reward players for not going crazy with magdumping but also have enough power to putdown a hunter leaping straight for you.
I watched a guy sit on a rock and fully charge a railgun shot only to blast one of those tiny green bugs
>>530734352Thanks for your opinion.
>>530738314Sometimes, you only have to be faster than the slowest guy.
>>530737229this game was castrated by UN directive, which is why Pilestedt walked. it'll collect as much money for Sony as it can until it dies.
making a newfag lobby, anyone interested to help?
why cant i enter the game
i havent called people niggers at least i think i havent
>>530714796for bugs I would agree, but against bots the gas dog isn't going to be flying 60 meters to fart on that devastator or that hulk
>t. laser cannon main
D10, not sure which faction, maybe bots
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>>530737259here, now
>>530740268full
we fight for israel
>>530716594you don't need to count an extra 15 seconds for the first shot because it's off cooldown ready to go.
>first shot: 3 second charge up3 out of 60 seconds
>second shot 15 second recharge + 3 second charge up21 out of 60 seconds
>third shot 15 second recharge + 3 second charge up39 out of 60 seconds
>fourth shot 15 second recharge + 3 second charge up57 out of 60 seconds
so yeah, 4 dead hulks in 1 minute.
>>530717075laser cannon doesn't kill fabricators, can't take on cannon turrets from the front in a pinch, can't kill a factory striders cannon turret, and requires a nearly a full cooldown or a battery swap to kill factory striders in the same amount of time as the quasar can. quasar is a very strong pick on bots.
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>>530739787
>>530741020modded divers in shambles
>Le X is better than Y
I'm good with X, Y, and Z, why should I care
Hover pack + de-escalator, my beloved duo.
>>530741287You shouldn't.
Those arguments are for retarded monkeys with autism.
>>530740390>and requires a nearly a full cooldown or a battery swap to kill factory striders in the same amount of time as the quasar can. quasar is a very strong pick on bots.quasar+a sparkler grenade or two can quickly destroy a FS foot.
alright you retards, d10 bugs
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241702736461/76561198093731758
Can someone less mentally ill host a lobby?
>>530742774its how this works, you post tits to get people to click
>>530742752Defense is the ONE mission you can always bring Mortars to, I don't know what that retard is smoking.
Did he meant to say not to bring them to Extermination missions?
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>>530742774Beggars can't be choosers.
>>530742752You can sort of get away with it on defense missions. But they're still C-tier at their very best. Just pretend mortar sentries don't exist.
>>530742752Well you can say they blow up mines needlessly at most, but then again those mines are probably never getting stepped on anyway.
>>530742752Tesla Tower + EMS Mortar is better than Mortar + EMS Mortar
Other than that I don't see why would you avoid picking Mortar, especially on Defense snoozefest where nothing even gets close to you
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>>530729584ap2 jobs to spewers and is annoying to use against hive guards so ap3 wins by default
you will now proceed to cope in the face of objective truth
>>530742752nah
mortars are still a menace even on defence missions
>>530742752Why the fuck is this asshat going into melee range during defense missions? The mortar picks a target, then shoots in front of it. If you are in front of the monsters during defense missions, then everything is FUBAR or you are purposely walking into the enemy formation.
>>530738583I still don't use it very often because the model glitch that happens when using the 4x scope pisses me off AND ARROWHEAD STILL HASN'T FIXED THE GUN DISAPPEARING
>>530743364>sitting on top of the outer wall>bug breach spawns right below you just outside>get ragdolled off the wall from stray mortar shots that fired before the bugs even got out of the groundit happens all the fucking time, especially on the map with the double cargo container stack
>>530743623Stop being danger close to the enemy. You have guns.
>>530742752Only true for bugs and partially squids (due to wall clipping enemies). Assuming you have a mission with actual spawns they will be getting gibbed by hunters and scavengers because they're retarded and will keep running into places bugs were just standing.
Is there any option to decrease fog?
I can't see past 10ft.
I don't want it gone altogether just cut back.
>>530742752He's right. Rocket sentries are more effective.
>>530743623>Bug breach spawns just besides you>Instead of backing away so you don't get killed by the mortar, the gas strike, the incendiary grenade or the orbital napalm your teammates will throw at you, you decide to waste everyone's time and reinforcements>It even "happens all the fucking time" (read: you're a moron and never learn, and will eventually spergout about you being a shitter)Kicked
Does the 30% stealth bonus actually do anything or is it just a meme?
>>530744325Yeah it makes you 30% stealthier.
>>530744076You go to a planet that doesn't suck ass
>>530737242It's like 70% of the world man, we're fucked. It used to be okay because they were segregated to their shitholes and poverty but now they're taking over the civilized world with their numbers and strangely ever-present immigration support, guides and handouts.
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>>530744076the game desperately needs some form of night vision or a fog-clearing strategem
>>530744775I do not prefer this design
if I see some one bring a mortar sentry, doesn't matter what missions it is, I simply just kill it while the person who called it in isn't looking
>Every fucking planet is foggy
Is this what Sweden is like? Is it a perpetually foggy shithole?
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>>530745102Understandable
>>530744791You can have a fog-clearing mod and a night vision reshade filter
>>530744517>You go to a planet that doesn't suck ass>go to green planet>has green filter and heavy fog>go to yellow planet>has piss filter and heavy fogevery planet you go to has too much fog and some manner of piss or shit filter heavily applied to it.
I just wanna go to a planet and not get hit with a sepia filter like i just crossed the border to mexico in an early 2000s movie
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241704489360/76561198931226109
bots
>>530740390If we're doing dumb math like that which discounts the fact the stustained shots per minute is 3, the RR is two dead heavies in 8 seconds, and 4 in under 30.
However, you'll note he actually stated "per minute", not in a minute, which is the sustained rate of fire which is one shot every 18 seconds or just a hair over 3 shots per minute, assuming you're perfect about using on cooldown.
Ready and looking for a SC Farming lobby.
Who wants to join?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241705311925/76561198039845988
Bugs?
>>530745337no
I want to need to strategically select a loadout that fits the environment
someone explain warbonds to me. should i be buying shit from one in particular?
>>5307455832/4
Need some more gamers
>>530745727You want something Swiggers already said they scrapped because they couldn't be arsed to implement
>>530744517he is on Silf, where you are going next Helldiver.
>>530737023I don't have enough superbucks...
>>530745909Buy Democratic Detonation, then buy whatever looks good enough to you
>>530708320The real crossover we need. Give me an EPG and a Legion and I will give you Slif in a day.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241705768834/76561198311885451
Medal/SC Farming I don't have arrow mod but pls pick up medals too
>SD personnel are piss tested weekly
How much weed are Super Earth's citizens smoking?
>>530746878ok but what are they
>>530710545>ODST warbond ends up being Xbox exclusive How mad would you be?
>>530747119literally FAFO
>>530747040they're testing to make sure the staff take their government mandated doses of amphetamine salts
>SEAF artillerly
>Dropping package, package acquired, dropping package, package acquire, dropping package, package acquired, dropping package, package acquired, dropping package, package acquired, dropping package
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>>530747119Wdym "what are they"? Can't you figure it out yourself? Something wrong up there? Well, don't worry about it, you only need to clic- press right trigger
>>530746537No I'm not, my Democracy Officer said I could go on leave after Veld!
>>530747272>There are people that still don't know that picking up and dropping the artillery shell isn't faster than just carrying it normally now.
how can gaijin studios script and model multiple 4K vehicles every few weeks, but it takes more than a year to release an APC that a roblox dev could create in less then a day? i dont give a nigger shit about a couple weapons, i do good with every weapon
where is the new free content?
>>530747119they're themed sets of unlockables. you buy a warbond and then you can unlock the things in the warbond with medals.
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>>530746942>get in here nowget in here now
>get in here nowget in here now
>get in here nowget in here now
>get in here nowget in here now
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>get in here nowget in here now
>get in here nowget in here now
theres like a WHOLE NEW GAME in quantity of content they said would release but never did. nigga HIRE MORE PEOPLE AND INVEST IN YOUR HIT
>>530747272>SEAF artillery>I get yelled at for loading static fields and smokeI just want to get the objective done ok
>>530747119Each is a pack of items (weapons, boosters, armors, stratagems etc) you buy for Super Credits. Then you unlock the items in them with medals.
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Warbonds
>>530746942closin it up dead thread
Would you use an augment slot for instant pod drops? Both divers, supplies, and turrets
>>530747884You VILL look for the hidden mini nuke while the site is crawling with multiple titans and hunters and bile and orbital napalms
>>530747791The pajeet who runs Arrowhead now was bragging on a podcast that he actually didn't hire that many new people when the game exploded.
>>530747884Disgusting. I will personally execute you if I see you loading either of these shells before any of the other varieties.
>>530742752I thought the same thing until my team did what I thought impossible.
Simply dont let the enemy get close to you.
>>530748119>The pajeet who runs Arrowheadas a newfag that explains everything to me instantly
>>530748119>"I could have saved the game saar, but I needed to buy new toilet"
>>530747791>Sweden>InvestKEK
I don't like using the flamethrower anymore. It use to kill things in a couple seconds with direct flame, but now its all damage over time and you have to wait 4-5 seconds kill something. Might as well just use the crisper or torcher instead of the stratagem.
>>530697058>Alien civilian casualties>Enemy resistance increasesWould be rad.
>>530748692But they said "Flamer mechanics reverted"? And then they "buffed" it? And then they "reworked it so it deals proportional damage"? What do you mean it's still 100x worse than what it was before? :^)
>>530745286>>530744775>>530743012I think it's kind of funny how you can clearly tell how furry artists have never drawn anything other than default anthros because all their designs have muzzles, including some (like the stalker) that are supposed to be arthropods
Flamer oppression is real
Flamers rise up
>>530748692thank buffniggers for wanting it to be an AT weapon for some retarded reason
>>530749081Tbf stalkers (as well as all the bugs) do have something similar to a muzzle
>>530748692Yeah, it's basically only good for applying flame DoT. You just puff shit with it instead of full spray.
>>530749348I'm not seeing it.
>>530747736basically, but the point of calling them something else is A) consistency with the setting, and B) they're not time limited
>>530741682>Consistently get over 500+ kills on bugs per game because of how stupid good this combo is.It's gonna be sad when that slav Alexus nerfs this support weapon.
>>530750043ready for war with russia
d10 Squids -
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241707627163/76561197977922760
I got until the top of the hour then I gotta run
>>530730916Specifically just the bots. There was literally no discernable difference in unit behavior.
whats the best planet right now for SC farming? dont say vernen wells because its not
>>530710650>Is Halo even still popular? It hasn't had a good game since Reach.we got a fucking killzone warbond
>>530739787thanks for the fun dives from a first timer
>>530750273oh cool-
>squids
>>530733192>bugsidk what it is but I feel I have to take gas. Orbital, dog, even mines sometimes.
But never the sterilizer.
I cant believe the squid cultists (everything I ever wanted from squids) aren't in the game but dollar store zombies are
I cant believe squid zombies (everything I ever wanted from squids) aren't in the game but dollar store cultists are
I can't believe squid women (everything I ever wanted from squids) aren't in the game but bug women are
>>530750490owning squid fags, I crashed btw lobby back open
https://youtu.be/yZjPXRNghQw
>>530750814What's wrong with bug women?
how is sc farming against squids? also ANSWER ME
>>530750298
>>530751013nothing, but I wanted the other type of women
>>530750273New lobby, other one crashed to desktop, donnno if it changed 1/4 Squiggers
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241707938618/76561197977922760
Doppiong in, join whenever
Why does everyone pussy out when its extermination?
>>530751121Oh, carry on then.
>>530730916Now instead of just shooting and mostly missing they calculate every single point in space where they could shoot to miss. That'll be 40 fps, sir
>>530751450Because it's fucking boring
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Lobby, democracy decides
Want to finish the police warbond.
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I have failed two d10 pred bug missions, in a row.
Whats a good loadout for these fuckers?
>>530750824>no fun allowed: the faction
>>530751450>Exterminate>Blitz>BricksOk bro I have better things to do like having fun in another operation
>>530751327Pool's closed, its full
>>530751893BALLISTIC SHIELD
USE THE FUCKING BALLISTIC SHIELD SO WHEN YOU TURN YOUR BACK YOU DON'T GET ASSRAPED BY HUNTERS AND PREDATORS
>>530751993More like
>no shitters allowed: the faction
>>530752063>no shitters allowed: the factionOdd way to spell predators
>>530751893knight/pummeler/lib conc
verdict
gas nade
orb nap
machine gun turret
RR
orb gas if u really suck that bad, otherwise 120
if you cant do it with this idk what to tell u.
>>530730719>this argument againItโs all so tiresome.
>>530752063>Call in stalwart and press m1>very high skill
>>530747520surely it's still faster because you sprint for the half second you are dribbling it
... you WERE sprinting while dribbling shells, right anon?
>>530732321No it does not. Slap on a full choke and sim for the head.
ive still not felt the need to use the duckbill choke
does the Fire Hellpods boster lowers the damage of the hellpods?
>>530734394I choose my primary (and everything else in my loadout) by thinking of what would round out my toolbelt better
If Iโm running the commando/rr on bots, Iโll probably pick the diligence to 1-2 tap troopers and get devastator headshots
But if Iโm running the laser cannon, sure Iโll take the reprimand for close range engagements
Choose your primary by what you want/need to round out your loadout, not because ap2/ap3 is โbetterโ
>>530735515They realize that the rocket pod targeting takes place the moment the ball lands instead of when the rockets land, so they keep using it.
>>530702082Bring the crisper with the ballistic shield, and use it to clear groups for cheaper than your primary. The crisper also has the added benefit of being able to shoot behind the user whilst they run. Giving them the ability to ground fire it whilst on the move.
>>530745490>>530746261SC FARMAN HERE
GO
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>>530731882Cause it's bait for retards to use that don't know or care to hit weak spots
>>530714375anti-personal mines are way better at it.