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>>530636514>Official Update 1.1 Streamhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=CaXpbgEgWB4
>TrailersStory trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ULiusPxQG4
>Character banner[7/10-8/7] Yui 5*, Motoha Arai 4*, Kayo Tomiyama 4*, Kiyoshi Kurotani 4*
[7/10-7/24] Minami Miyashita 5*, Shun Kano 4*, Seiji Shiratori 4*, Leo Kamiyama 4*
[6/26-7/24] Ren Amamiya 5*, Lufel 4*, Tomoko Noge 4*, Seiji Shiratori 4*
>Weapon banner[7/10-8/7] Cyber Jammers 5* (Yui-exclusive), Meta Directors 4* (Yui-exclusive), Crime and Punishment 4* (Motoha Arai-exclusive)
4* Weapon: Emerald Charmer 4* (Kayo Tomiyama-exclusive), Death Stinger 4* (Kiyoshi Kurotani-exclusive)
[7/10-7/24] Angel Heart 5* (Minami Miyashita-exclusive),Hymn of Life 4* (Minami Miyashita-exclusive), Demon's Bite 4* (Shun Kano-exclusive), Knight's Reward 4* (Seiji Shiratori-exclusive), Justice Lance 4* (Leo Kamiyama-exclusive)
[6/26-7/24] Phoenix Dagger 5* (Ren Amamiya-exclusive), Machete 4* (Ren Amamiya-exclusive), Lava Flame 4* (Lufel-exclusive), Shadow Crowns 4* (Tomoko Noge-exclusive), Knight's Reward 4* (Seiji Shiratori-exclusive)
>Current events[lasts 30 days after account creation] Take Your Heart
[6/26-7/24] New Contracts
[7/10-7/24] Spin to Win Raffle
[7/10-7/24] Metro of Desire
>Guides and resourcesCharacter building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Kiuchi’s Palace guide: docs.google.com/document/d/1Aan6Y2TD5RgCgLMhYEEfqrF7MCucGs_jJK6Ia9MGWnY
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo
P5X Limited Units Summary Up To 4.1.3: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElyoXLOx4wTXra8kb8TkLRzb2Y7eqMUMivaURupcw5o
>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)>Ensure that these are all filled before making a new guildNetori - 100001547
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Yotsuba - 100046177
General Chat Channel #624
Now that the dust has settled, what went so horribly wrong?
>>530696824 (OP)Threadly reminder we keep losing things.
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>get back from work
>check out the "translated" subbed 1.1 stream
>This appears multiple times
What the fuck is this shit?
Probably just gonna wait and see if Sega will blink first
guys. The review are mixed now on steam. The casuals are waking up.
game is saved. Sega hates when their games are reviewed badly
>>530696824 (OP)>Marian removed from Lufel's business plans for global https://x.com/p5x_alert/status/1943150553107960180>100 gems for maintence 500 less (other servers get 300+300 code)>release the 1.1 english translation stream AFTER the update already came out and just doesn't translate some parts >example "(comments on development)" instead of translating what the comments actually are>daily log in rewards for patches are 7 days of a pull a day instead of 10 days from other servers>removed soft pity>accelerated schedule with no compensation in forms of gems or currency to level up characters(it will cost a lot to get to 80 and get card sets + level them up to 25) but don't worry they're adding all these premium shop packs with the mats to grow your characters!>standard characters aren't immediately added to standard pool after their banner ends(didn't say when)>all the people that shilled that this game is generous are now saying just to play on TW version with english translation patchAlso
>Yui got a exclusive global buff, expected "skip" character to increase fomo even more to bait you into pulling instead of saving for meta (still not worth pulling)
>watch part of the anime to get rewards!
>it's cut up to 4+12+15 parts like a 2009 youtube upload
>can't just let it play you need to manually click start for every part
epic
>>530697019The fact that they kept a 4th task but decided to say fuck it and erase the 4th free reward kek
>>530697175Thanks for reminding me. Forgot to change my positive review.
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Is there negative def in this game
>>530697175I changed my review to negative and hope sega will do something. Game is mixed now btw...
>>530697019the fact that they went OUT OF THEIR WAY to remove the reward, which is 1 (one) golden ticket, is fucking hilarious
>>530697012Genuine answer? The launch not being simultaneous for all regions.
>>530697346Atarus...
P Stachio...
Buracku Wingzu...
>>530697019>not even a limited ticket>still removedHuh?
>>530697012Limited units. Everything should always go into the common pool.
Alt forms should be unlockable through other methods other than rolling.
If you're changing your review make sure to also leave feedback at SEGA's official support site
https://support-p5x.sega.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
They're currently being flooded by complaints since yesterday but can't hurt to add more to the pile.
>>530697526like why? apparently this is a chink gacha too as well. What's with the switch up like this, I expect this garbage from jap gachas.
>>530697019What the hell is KakaoTalk
>>530696824 (OP)Stop bullying Moko!
>>530697209>Parody account bot that gets from d*scord
Good game killed by awful management. Sad.
>>5306970121. Not doing a day 1 global release in the first place. When the game has been running for over a year in CN then players can see how hard they are being fucked in the ass by what was done on CN and what is being done on global.
If you aren't launching your gacha worldwide on day 1 then don't fucking bother.
2. Sega. Atlus straight out stated that Sega was handling certain aspects like the marketing/online elements so all this shit can be blamed on Sega.
>>530697739the publisher is sega unlike the china version which has another one
Drummer girl really just gives a full spread-legged view up there, huh.
>>530697736>*Please note that there may be cases where we do not respond to a particular inquiry due to its contents.You know damn well they're not going to listen to complaints.
>>530697739Chinks are devs but the business side is handled by Japs hence why it's fucking shit.
>>530697739>I expect this garbage from jap gachas.Well Sega is handling the global/JP version so we are getting a CN game with shit Japanese gacha practices.
>>530697209>Bad character got buffed>Somehow that's a bad thing
>>530695987Pure pull income isn't the full story. Most of the time gem generosity is offset by (and is needed to mitigate)
>bloated standard pool where older characters are powercrept into irrelevance>200/300 pulls to hard pity/spark>even if the 5* rates are high there's no guarantee ANY of the 5*s are the featured rate-up on the way to hard pity>no pity carryover so there's no point rolling on a banner unless you have enough to guarantee at hard pity
The new mode gives a lot of gems so that's still good...
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Does the roguelike mode really not have a weekly bonus like picrel?
>>530697739i at least understand why we went from 600 gems to 100 for the maintenance, it's jewish in a logical way, but consciously removing a single golden ticket is really funny
>Miyazawa's theme has no vocal segment
Which set for Minami? Love seems like overkill. Prosperity + Trust for more party dmg seems like the best.
>>530698173Only for first-time clears
>>530698265Nope
they're changing things. yui is the one going to standard for global. marian is going to remain limited.
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>beat the boss
>palace 3 is still in the works, come back soon!
what the FUCK, you had 1 job atlus west, translate the content, how do you fuck that up
>>530698524ok but imagine if they actually did that I think I would quit
>put shitty chars on standard>put good standard characters limited
>>530697945It will take you 20 seconds to do it. Maybe it won't matter, or maybe some dumbass min wage janny has to report to his manager that he's gotten tens of thousands of tickets
>>530698585um we are accelerating the content schedule for global please look forward to it gaijin-kun
>>530698620>shittyyui is actually good after her buff
>>530698620Bro you wouldn't quit. If you were you would've quit right after the recent stream.
I think Sega just doesn't care about Persona anymore....
>>530698585too busy taking away rewards.
>>530698524>stay limited>but no shop deal for pulling herIf true, even paypigs are getting screwed.
>>530698458>NopeWell that sucks, isn't it going to be fucking dead when you get all the achievements? The rewards didn't honestly look that good, like 2 multis?
>>530698764Okay so you think anyone stil playing after that stream is never quitting? What is your logic
>>530698524>they're doing another thing that you would only do if this were a speedrun to EoS cash grab from short-sighted retardsHuh, I wonder what their goal is.
>>530698767they're just being jews like normal
>>530699009Only SEAmonkeys are quitting, so no one.
>>530698886>Well that sucks, isn't it going to be fucking dead when you get all the achievements?That's almost all new content in this game every update
>>530698717proof, I'm about to hard pity.
>>530699009he was talking about you specifically. please quit and spare us your drama.
Nurse Minami better be in that plan 3 dupe case...
>>530699170Just a little over 3 more hours left bro...Trust Sega...
>>530699170dataminers confirmed she got removed bro https://x.com/p5x_alert/status/1943150553107960180
>>530699302>no pics>random twitter post I will wait 3 hours
>>530699302>confirmed>sourceless twitter postYeah i'm just going to wait and see it with my own eyes bro
>>530699302Where's the proof?
>>530699170>get shot in the face 5 times>'surely THIS chamber won't have a bullet'
>>530699302Can't wait for her to be in the JP plan but not the English one
>Raise 2 skills for 4 phantom thieves to lvl 5
>Have multiple level 5 skills on several phantom thieves
WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT WANT FROM ME? WHY IS IT STILL 2/4?
>>530699413>Heheh...you're finally out of bullets. Just as I plann->Sega reloads
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>>530697019you have the same amount as taiwan. korea on the other hand got 4 gold ticket instead
>>530699432the bonus skill levels from awakenings don't count
In 3 hours i will decide if it's worth playing this game further.
But it's not looking good, sadly i kinda liked the game.
I have no impulse control so I really hope Global shuts down so I don't have to deal with the FOMO of continuing to play in case the game gets better
>>530699569At least they had the decency to get rid of the 4th chore box
>>530699372>>530699392>>530699404>random twitter post>reliable dataminer that has made guides for social links with the localizaiton translation>all other things he datamined is trueso we acting like this guy got maxed social links day 1 or he actually datamined it instead
>>530699637mindbroken character collector lol
>>530699571I just wish it would tell me exactly what skills I need to level how the fuck am I supposed to know
>>530699713shut up libtard. wait 3 hours before sperging out
>>530699637SAAR and/or pagpag...
>send Sega a complaint, some tranny janny will surely alert management!
Reminder that Sega listens to one thing and one thing only: C H A R G E B A C K
>>530699785Sex with middle left
>first 10 pull on the event banner
lol that's crazy
>>530699873no, chargebacking on steam would lock your account.
A negative review on steam would hurt them more
>>530699770any skill works
>>530699785why is motoha such a slut
Lot of bootlickers here today.
>>530699873They don't even care about chargebacks. I chargeback'd after hitting 160 hardpity on Joker and I'm not even banned. I play on mobile though.
>>530699962>he didn't make a dummy steam account for a gachaOof
>>530699947you lucky fucker. I went to 80 pulls just to get morgana. im saving my next 50/50 for the next good limited.
in 3 hours this thread will have a massive meltdown
>>530700208What's in three hours?
>>530700208sega is comboing us hard
>>530699785damn
Merope idol when
Lots of metacuck character collecting SEAsisters here today.
>do a 10 pull get Marian
>do a 10 pull get Ryuji
>do a 10 pull get Yui
>do a 10 pull get Yui's weapon
What the hell who needs soft pity when the rates are so good. Is this exclusive to global? Some kind of rate boost instead of spft pity? I fucking love it.
>the roguelike seems like a nice thing to have
>event ends in 14 days
What? This shit looks like it should be permanent
>>530700549where does it say that?
>>530700494My schizo theory is that they cranked the rates during the backlash period. I got Marian + Weapon in 10 each.
we have 2 slots open... first come first served
>>530698269Can you explain how handing out less than a single roll for multiple patches worth of maintenance is logical?
>>530700879reread what i said calmly, ESL-kun
>>530700494>>530700836I also got 3, 5 starts in 100 pulls and wondered if they did something...
They're actually asshurt that people can pre-plan their rolls due to being 14 months behind and actively try to fuck the global version over because they think it will make them more money lmao
>>530700494I got a second Rin on my immediate first pull and Marian within 40. I will continue to assume I was just lucky.
>>530700494Thanks, you convinced me to quit for good.
>Game started 2 weeks ago
>Already 3 different banners
What are they doing?
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>>530700836>My schizo theory is that they cranked the rates during the backlash period. I got Marian + Weapon in 10 each.I had to go the full 160
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>>530700494Went to hard pity for a second Ryuji dupe
>SEA version has the same publisher as CN version
I can't wait for it to have more generous rewards than west/JP. The meltdown is going to be so funny
>>530701293Wow another one all the way to 80, everyone is so unlucky to miss the soft pity that exists!
>>530697012>>530697019>3 posts in and 2 of them are doom trannies shitting up the thread alreadyYeah, comfy times are over. We're never getting this place back because of these estrogen filled niggers.
>>530700864I would come but 1 day leave guild cooldown
>>530701475It’s the same as global except more expensive packs
>>530701293I just need... 4 more rolls...
>>530701646Went under the radar for a little now the serial shitposting discord is gonna try here too.
If only this site had some kind of... moderating force, that could ban people for doing this.
More likely to get modded for calling out jannies not doing their jobs though.
>>530701070>They're actually asshurt that people can pre-plan their rolls due to being 14 months behind and actively try to fuck the global version over because they think it will make them more money lmaoWhich is strange because most people would have skipped Yui and Minami even if they didn't know what was coming next. They aren't exactly popular and have had barely any screen time. Minami doesn't even have a social link. Of course people were going to wait for like, Makoto and Futaba.
>>530701646>get multiple pieces of objectively bad news less than a day ago with more as the day progresses>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT IT
>>530701914It's also a gacha and healers are massively undervalued in gachas.
>barley any motoha, yaoling or riko hentai
I'm disappointed in you guys
>>530701475Sorry buddy, SEA also got the soft pity text removed. Maybe you'll end up being right on everything else, but my money is on SEA just copying every single decision from Global/JP but a week behind
wanna pull for YUI but I just hit 50 and don't even have enough mats to level the teams I'm already using :(
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>>530702338Not enough mats you say?
Is it worth it to send an AP on Chihaya's shenanigans?
If i don't like the direction that the game is going it means im a tranny now? Like, how much are you being paid to defend shitty behaviour from SEGA and Fatlus?
>>530702601StoryGODS won.
>>530701914i don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but minami isn't what i'd say "not exactly popular". people are still begging for her social link
>>530702601Full on meltdown and trolling, skin browner than excrement.
so who the fuck do i need to pull for. im still doing Palace 1 but do i need Joker? Yui? Nurse? I already got Ann. Pls help sirs. How do i stay unbricked
>>530703021Whoever you like.
>>530702549Total crapshoot. You might get a big bonus to your next social link activity or stat boosting activity. Or you might get something completely useless like doubling the gems you get on a specific realm of repression stamina activity (I got it for the gems one then never used it again)
>>530702101blame fatlus for not commissioning artists to get the ball rolling
>>530703021skip everything for now, rates and gem income is too low. if you care about "being bricked" then wait for chord and oracle, maybe pull for queen too.
>>530703021Pull for who you like.
Skip who you don't.
Simple as.
As long as you like some characters along time along the way, you'll be fine I'm sure.
>>530703021you dont really need anyone. Just pull for who you like
>>530700864I'm 50+ and I left my shitty guild before you made this post, maybe I'll make it in if you don't take total newbies. I'll have '/vg/' in prof
what element is summer Moroha?
>>530703374we're casual, but we did finish like top 80 last guild boss
>>530703497Blessing, because that's what she is
>the yiddish practice of having an unremovable UI alert on the shop
Do they realize that shit is more likely to make someone pissed off and drop the game than to randomly buy things to make the alert go away?
Of course they don't, they're the lowest form of subhuman parasitic scum.
>tfw pulled all limiteds the first 10-pull but still no Rin
Bros...
>>530703794It's removable tho lol
>>530700104hey, I thought this was a gacha, not a charity case. now I got all the standards and just missing potato miku
>>530703794That's for the daily free bag, just take it
>He didn't reroll for good seed to get all future limiteds in one tenpull each
Bricked...
Sooo if i wanted S. Motoha now i NEED to pull for Nurse-chan? Fuck my life man.
i cant beat the oberon/titania fight in metro of desires
why is minami banner 13 days but yui 27 days?
>>530704000Poorfag behavior who will probably uninstall once they reveal Minami isn't part of Lufei's Plan 3 KEK
>>530704140She was supposed to be added in standard banner after hers is gone
>>530703829>>530703979No, this is a different one.
This is a "1" rather than the "!" for new stuff or the daily bag. And nothing in the shop is flagged as "New" or anything either.
Could be a UI mistake after clearing the 2nd boss.
>>530704224Nah you're right, there's nothing you can do with the discount pack cancer unless you buy it or wait it out.
so is this game not f2p friendly?
>>530704224Those are for the limited time packs after you clear something or pull a standard character, they go away forever when the timer ends
>>530704318It is if you play the Chinese or Korean version
>>530704318If you want a F2P friendly version of this game download the TW version and install the english translation fan patch
>>530704349cute women and cool men
>>530704318It is if you're not playing to be a character collecting metatard.
>Poster: Red Haired Pirate Annie
>Title: Pirates of Curly-Hair Anne
what
>>530704318It is literally the least f2p friendly ever of its type if you want to do anything outside main story content
Hoyo games let f2p clear everything, this will not
>>530704318Global version is designed to milk Western piggu wallet
>>530704467not him but how do i do that? was considering playing the global and tw versions for fun
>>530704535It's a shitty pun, true hallmark of all trannylators
>>530704467>mtl>translationkill yourself
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I'm doing my part.
>>530697209>removed soft pitylmao DROPPED
>>530704467>and install the english translation fan patchDid someone update things and actually translated the text or is it still auto-translated incoherent crap?
>>530704648I did it myself a week and a bit ago because I was sick of being lied to by faggots telling me about how it "actually is" on the older servers. Meanwhile I haven't hit hard pity a single fucking time on TW.
This is the TW download page: https://www.p5x.com.tw/
This discord has the translation patch: https://discord.gg/p5xworldwide
Keep in mind it'll probably take you a long time to download, My download speed went down to a fifth of how fast it usually is.
>>530700957So, in your opinion, what sega is doing is extremely logical, yes? That they're somehow getting the most revenue they can out of the playerbase by giving them absolutely nothing while simultaneously speeding through all the content
>>530704948>>530704817TW's translation isn't MTL, they've done thorough translations on all the personas and skill descriptions and working their way through all the story stuff. It's still not perfect but nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
Do they not specifiy if a character is limited or not on their banners?
So hownis Yui? She was apparently buffed for global. Is she worth it?
>>530705579Every new character added from now on is limited.
>>530704535It has to be her pubes, right? it has to be.
>>530702549do 10 for the phantom den rewards of giving more crit chance
>>530705625All that changes is that her FUA buff lasts 2 turns instead of 1, it's not going to change things.
>>530705027You are a bugman
>>530705131thanks, do you still play the global version with it or have you just moved on to the tw version? also any guides about the new stuff in tw that global doesnt have?
>>530704948TW has all the important things (item/skill descriptions etc) and most of the story manually translated
>>530705192exactly what i meant by that, good job anon *pat pat*
>>530704318The story can be beaten with whatever but yes the online stuff is extremely anti-F2P. Even if they attempt to reverse course at this point it's too late.
>>530705826Yui is all about FUA though... Buffing that helps her a lot
>>530706008>the online stuff is anti f2p>borrow your friend's OP assist for whatever you're struggling with and scrounge up whatever shitters you have to do the restEasy max rewards every week
>>530705919I'm playing both currently. I'm skipping the story in TW while playing it fully on global and taking it a lot slower on TW since there aren't any level gates and you get pushed to level 31 instantly on first log in
I've been playing the TW version blind outside of the translation patch. Probably worthwhile to look into a guide on what characters to aim for.
I've also been using the 80 pity banner so far to prove a point, but the 110 pity banners are the way to go.
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Remember to post your feedback
>https://support-p5x.sega.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=47495901058585
>We are currently receiving a large number of inquiries.
>>530706372ch1 ch2 and ch3 are manually translated. Ch4 not yet
>>530706157Show your velvet trials clear.
>>530705998Now could you explain the part how you think it's logical or what
>>530706375I already sent a ticket but you're seriously coping so fucking hard that Sega will actually listen and take this feedback into account.
>>530705309>>530705940Shit... then I'd have to start from scratch becauseI played in the korean server...
Well, whatever, I'm willing. If the global situation doesn't get better in the next few months I'll jump ship.
You guys got a download for the translation patch? I wanna bookmark it.
is her name bui or yui, I am confused
>>530706860bui is her code name
>>530706778Ah, I just saw
>>530705131.
Any direct links though? Discord invites can break anytime.
>>530706860Yui, pronounced as Bui.
Why are they so stingy. Like damn would a few tickets and gems really cut into their profits that much
>>530706778https://github.com/JayJay34/P5XTranslate
>>530707009Sega just does not know how to manage their live service games.
>>530706860Her name is Yui, the tulpa shadow is called BUI.
Did you make the trial? She says "Perusona dio" as in Persona Duo, Bui is a persona with a persona.
>>530707009No, it would do the opposite and generate goodwill which would cause people to spend small amounts more often. Try explaining this to the schizo ojisans at Sega though
>went to hard pity
>got Riddled
it's over
Stop wasting your limited rolls...
>>530705131sorry but last question, is it pc only? im on mobile
Character: Musubi Matsukata
MMO Avatar: Yui
Phantom Idol: Bui
Persona: Apseudes
>>530706663>Why are you complaining on /veegee/, you think Sega reads here?>Why even send official feedback, you think Sega reads that shit?I don't know what else to do. I hope they read it, I hope they change some shit, but who fucking knows, maybe they'll just truck along and change nothing. I'll just go play something else if that's the case.
Just EOS this game and release it as a standalone Persona title, streamline the confidants, reduce the grind and it could be a solid 8/10 game with all content released and with the gacha shit gone.
Is this normal for sega gachas? I've never played them besides maybe a sonic title or two.
>>530707009If you look at the decisions from a "how can scrape away as much as possible" perspective, then it makes more sense.
Change soft pity to be shit, means everyone speds 3-7 more pulls on every banner, means they might spend to get those final pulls they would have had.
Change maintenance rewards and remove redemption codes. 2-3 banners every patch that now need to be supplemented by paying.
Accelerate banners and postpone adding to standard with no actual timings given, to induce FOMO
remove 3 pulls from the patch login events.
Jumble up the values of all the synergy rewards and put more on the final steps of the synergy so people feel the need to speed earlier into their playtime.
If you then apply those 10, 20, 30 pulls over the course of a month on a million accounts, you see how much everyone loses and might make someone spend a bit more because they're close to having enough
So can you just do an infinite amount of runs in this metro of desire rogue like?
>>530707394I got 1 Rin, 1 Yui and 1 Marian just off of the limited packs lmao
I still have over 100 rolls saved
>>530705192NTA but going full mask-off p2w jew just runs gacha games into the ground. You want to make the f2p and dolphins feel like they are being treated well and can keep up. Because if they quit the whales will get bored with trying to ineffectively wave their dicks at each other.
Like Mihoyo games are also stingy, but they do a good job of making it LOOK like they are helping new players with consistent free login pulls, soft pity, and good communication.
>>530707685Damn you really put into perspective how much global is losing out on
>>530699785sex with bottom right
>hit the sword ice weakness
>follow up attack autotargets a fake sword
>letting the follow up timer run out still does a follow up anyway
cool
>>530708283>not manually choosing your 1 Moresngmi
How much longer until Plan 3? I want to be around for the fireworks.
>>530708283Yeah gotta turn off the autotarget 1Mores. Always should've but now it matters.
What did I miss since yesterday, boys?
The food critic kicked my ass
>>530709618You can stop trying to restart the conversation over and over ago anon, just scroll up
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what level do i have to be for this? or do i need to beat the 2nd palace?
>>530709702it's a side quest unlock, I think you need 30 or 31
>>530709702I'm just chilling til reset before doing any of this.
>>530709702You can do it before beating it. You have to change your mission by clicking on it in the upper right. If it doesn't show up you may have to do some of the palace.
>>530709816>Missing like 3 rolls on the lucky draw thingBRCKED
>>530709816You're missing out on 5 ball rolls if you dont do the trial before reset (1 hour 36 minutes)
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its over, goku won...
>>530709816Lotto machine event has a daily for doing a metro run. Took me like 5 minutes to unlock and 5 to do a run.
>>530710102>up 34 spots at 7th placePeople love Minami
>>530710102>7th in Japan>16th on SteamEOSbros....
>>530710102it's doing a bit too well gentlemen...
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Where's the metro mission?
>>530710271>>530710102Pretty good considering this was an easy skip banner. Everyone is saving for Chord.
wow unironically I think they are just trying to pump and dump this game for all the money they can get and then shut it down. Literally they just had to copy and paste the shit from CN to Global and they'd be golden, but no they shit on global for what?
>>530710416isn't that a second palace sidequest?
>>530710416Maybe you need to beat Palace 1? idk
>>530710524JP/Global is making more than CN as it stands, why would it shutdown
>>530710102>beat by a 11 year old dragonball gameOld man Dokkan marches on
>>530710102This is pretty bad. I guess we are fucked.
I will forgive them if the minami dupe is still in plan 3
>>530710672>Game makes more money on first month than some random month 1 year+ after launchI would hope so
>>530710519only brainless metaniggers do that tho
If you want to get a free 10 pull, just make us top1 in stores again :)
>>530710672yes but that is old content they already made, they are just going to slow down CN content since it barely has any sales, speed up the banners on global and squeeze every last penny they can. once it catches up they might do a couple of patches if there are still retards who stayed on global. if not they eos after recouping all the money they invested keeping CN afloat.
>>530710004>>530710034>>530710126I meant the subway universe.
I logged in, got Yui, did boss 2, etc.
so how often do I pull if I'm strictly f2p? I was looking at the store and everything is too jewish for me. except maybe the monthly but being honest I'm racist and the Chinese getting better treatment than me an american makes me feel like I don't want to give my money to sega.
it's weak of me I know.
>why don't you quit then
I really like persona and atlus did the scenarios so it's a good hold over until they drop the p4 remaster/remake or p6.
>>530710849>>530711026Japs spent like 2 million in 4 days in June. They're gonna carry this gacha and all you will be able to do is sulk lol
>>530711085only pull for the characters you really, REALLY want. unless they're reverting everything they've done so far, but lol.
>>530711085Just pull for whatever character you like, it's not that deep. You can get through the game for free as long as you don't have character collection autism and need EVERY new thing
>>530711085>so how often do I pull if I'm strictly f2p?Chinese version you get a guarantee every other banner. Here it's a pity every 4 banners. You have to decide if you want to metaslave or roll for favourites and even then, you won't be able to get all your favourites with luckmaxxing.
>>530711085We don't know now. all the previous assumptions were that we are getting similar treatment to CN, with similar patch timings, orders, events, codes, etc. But we aren't. They are shaving pulls both character and weapon pulls, speeding up the banners, and holding back standard units being added into standard. from everything we see right now, f2p isn't worth it. I wouldn't spend the monthly now either. I wish I hadn't but I was naive in thinking we'd be treated fairly.
>>530711275>you won't be able to get all your favourites with luckmaxxing.just be picky with who you like lol
>>530711275>Chinese version you get a guarantee every other banner. Here it's a pity every 4 banners???
just skip all females, there you can get everyone :^)
>>530711146even cucked japs won't stand for being 2nd class citizens in comparison to chinks and gooks.
>>530711379fucking cuck
>poorfags acting like they know how to run a company earning millions of dollars each month
You can hate sega for what they did but acting like you know the business and will "eos" a money making machine makes no fucking sense.
>>530711524boohoo, cry more character collector cuck lmao. feels good not coming to this game just cus it's a gacha
So, how would no Minami in plan 3 or 4 impact how you see the game? Why would they even do such a thing?
what the FUCK does this mean
they need to stop using AI translations jesus christ
did they nerf the palace 2 boss from original release?
>>530711904unlock those 2 big and shiny unlockable things and see what happens next
>>530711652>how you see the game?They are being stingy fucks, they are already speeding up the banners, not offering compensation and even the basic freebies are getting gutted. why even continue if the company is willing to treat us like shit.
>why would they even do such a thingThey are running a pump and dump. they might not even dump it however since so many cucks are defending sega while getting raped up the ass.
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>used up all my gacha luck on the fucking event
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Just seems weird to do this when gacha addicts know what cn got
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>>530711602>oivey wanting the servers to be equal is just because you're poor goys!Or, you know, it's just because of basic ethics.
I know that concept may seem offensive to your culture though.
>metro is just a copy paste of hsr simulated universe
why
>>530712163They are hoping gacha casuals that are willing to try it because it's persona will get duped into staying long enough to get their pockets drained.
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>The villain is evil because...he's ugly
>>530712163Why not do it? Persona is too big of a franchise to fail. Poor Tribe Nine did one fuck up and it was lights out.
>>530712197Oh, there are more prizes? I really should get used to how shit this game's UI is on controller.
>>530712336kek, realistic
>>530712137>he didn't swap to the plat card box
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Kek this shit is beyond greedy. I don't think I've seen a disparity this big in rewards between global and vanilla release before
>>530712336He's just like me.
>>530712238because this whole game is "HSR, but persona"?
>>530712225you can be mad about them fucking over global but saying shit like this
>>530711026makes zero fucking sense
The whole idea of a Persona 5 gacha is a little ambitious to be nice about it. The original is almost 9 years old, Royal 6, the spinoffs are over and didn't get that much traction and it doesn't have the same pull with Normalfags that it had during it's peak. If you're some lil zoomzoom stumbling through the google store, are you really gonna start with a gacha game of the fifth game of the series? That might be a little off-putting. Meanwhile the game offers a watered down version of 3 to 5 and people can just go and play those titles when they feel the itch.
Why do people simp and shill for multi million dollar faceless corporations?
>>530712565How does it make no sense? they started in CN thinking, CN LOVES GACHA AND IT'S PERSONA! it flops over there, they are overly generous to atleast keep them afloat, they know the global market is around the corner. first month on global btfo what they make in CN. they have all this content already made so if we accelerated it we don't have to make so much content for CN since they don't even make much money for us. then when they catch up they can just eos with bags of money.
>>530712902because it makes (you) angry
>>530712565>you can be mad about them fucking over global but saying shit like thisWell I didn't say that.
But you DID say
>>530711602>poorfags acting like they know how to run a companyWhich has nothing to do with anything beyond being a cockslurper who deflects to
>oivey you should be happy playing the same game, paying more, and receiving less, and if you aren't happy it's cuz you're poor, aren't you!So do fuck off.
>>530712902I may or may not have shares
>>530712964brownoid behavior
It brings me great pleasure to know you suffer because what you believe to have been your game was stolen from you by "unfair ethical practices from the global side".
>>530712902why do people bitch and moan on 4chan instead of giving feedback directly to the people who can do something about it?
>>530712902mentally ill whales.
>>530712902Probably a community manager for 5x unironically
just dropped another 100 dollars on the game
>>530712902Why do gachacucks obsess with needing to have every character instead of just enjoying the story that requires 0 pulls?
1 hour and 7 minutes until we crash out
yeah fuck you i should have went with merope
>>530713136Pathetic. I gave the head localizer a sloppy toppy to keep up the good work and to delete Minami's dupe and weapon from the next 2 Lufei Plans.
>>530713171why do you obsess about what others want? if you don't want every character cool grab a noose and hang. nobody gives a fuck about your opinion. we play live service because we want more content, we want the new character. that's the point of a gacha.
>>530713136Alright, but like, you're wasting your money and also telling all of us about it.
Nigger, it's your money. You do you, use it however you want, but there's no need to act like a clown and tell us that you make poor use of it.
>>530713136Good girl. Enjoy your YUI
>>530713331cry more then, gachacuck gambling addict monkey. regular humans that simply came for more persona stay comfy lol
>>530712902I am taking part in the SEGA shareholder meetings
>>530713352Why would you spend money on luxury goods and services without being able to tell anyone? Do you only wear old used clothes and a shitty 87 Camry? And do you not groom yourself at all?
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So the UberEats gig economy worker is the bad guy right?
>>530713460>regular humansdon't talk like you. Fucking autistic sub human tranny.
>>530711340yeah i regret getting that daily gems thing, how quickly my opinion soured.
>>530713040That means you have an extremely pathetic life.
More pathetic than any of ours.
By all means, keep making these statements that reflect the type of person or subhuman you really are so I can laugh from afar.
There is no fucking way they're gonna remove shit from the plan. I don't give a fuck what dataminers said or how jewish they've been so far.
>>530713565Yes, he hurt Polter
>>530713565it's your math teacher
>>530713576uh oh, gambling addicted gachatroon upset. cry more about feeling betrayed and scammed by a corporation, retarded ape
>>530713619Only 1 hour and 2 minutes more until we can laugh at your coping SEAfood asses
>>530713565can i ubereats some waffles?
qru on the third plan rewards
>>530713701>SEAmonkey calling anyone else SEAkek
>>530713295Damn, so you're the fairweather kind of dirt bag huh
When it's good, it's great. When the partner is in a rut you leave them high and dry
>>530713108that's the funny part, it's not even whales. But other f2ps.
>>530713841free dupe for a standard 5*, free weapon for a standard 5*, cn gets it when Minami is already a standard. So we'd get minami's a1 which is a 20% def pen and her weapon for free. They changed the timing of the plan for global for no reason other than to possibly remove access to a early power spike for accounts.
You can watch the story on youtube. The gameplay is ass anyways.
>>530714187a2 is a power spike for ann, unless you need ryuji right now? otherwise you'll get him eventually.
>>530714187The uninstall button
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Is this worth it to get Key for my Ann team, or is a better new fire unit coming out soon?
>>530713108No it's usually whales that raise a stink about this. It doesn't make a lot of sense since these paltry amounts of tickets and gems are .000000001% in the money they dump on these games but if they get gypped slightly they drop support for a game.
>>530712336>villains' motives are more sympathetic than the protagonists'
>A bunch of retards screeching at each other about dropping the game but refuse to do so
>>530714148That was me with Limbus Company. The MD mines were too much for me so I dropped it and said I'll watch on youtube if I actually cared about the story (it was serviceable) but these days I just go on /lcg/ to see how they feel about it and I still get to enjoy the Mili tracks at the same time as everyone else (once a year at this point).
>>530713942nah this is my tough love
i could never abandon my best electric user
(fuck you ryuji)
>>530714148The gameplay is like the best part of it for me...
I'm still enjoying the game. There's no content locked behind a pay wall, get good faggots lol
>>530714405its like keys kit was specifically designed for buffing ann's damage, a bit like rin & joker
>>530714148Only third worlders "watch the story" on fucking youtube lol.
The gameplay is fun, anyways.
>>530713619>Minami released in CN>Plan 3 released next patch (I think), Minami moved to standard>Plan 3 had a selector for any (standard) unit's weapon, now including MinamiNow it makes perfect sense why CN had Minami's weapon in plan 3 and why global doesn't
>>530714652same, enemies actually have fun gimmicks to solve, reminds me of SMT
>>530714730Why? You're removing grindan and paying money for the aspect people praise these "good" gachas for
>>530714821Why did we get a bunch of other qol stuff and buffs at launch when CN players had to wait then?
so is this a good roll? i also got yui
>>530713672Tell me about the Raven cosplayer in GM_Construct.
>>530714850some of the gimmicks are stupid though. like the boss that becomes null to damage. after the first fail i just brought a demon with almighty to spam after all hits became null. and yes I spaced out the mobs that reset his immunities.
>>530714947Because Sega are a bunch of retards, that's why. We don't have the 110 pull guaranteed banner, do we?
>>530714897>paying moneyI'm not paying shit either way. Who pays money for digital things?
Watching a shittuber go at their own pace will always be inferior to reading it yourself.
>>530715037All of the Joker buffs came included already at launch for global
>>530715041CN didnt get it right away though.
>>530714507No it's one or two niggers endlessly flaming eachother and turning it into braindead tribalism. Go back to the first half of the previous thread before they woke up and you can clearly see the before and after of one faggot spamming over and over.
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Wait you don't get the previous ranks rewards? Everyone just get 100 gems?
>>530713136Based whale, thank you for funding my game
>>530714187Ryuji, you can get A2 Ann from the plan 3 awakening selector especially if Minami won't be on it.
>>530715114>>530715190LMFAO that's not a buff at all?
and this is "buffed" joker? he is barely better than Ann outside of the guild boss. and he's gone this week.
Was developing this game a money sink for them? Doesn't even seem particularly amazing although maybe it is by phone standards or something
>>530715332I doubt it, most of it is reused P5 assets.
I still don't have the mech twink everybody says is imperative…
>>530715205Yes. Sega are choosing completely arbitrarily what things to give to global right away and what not.
They are choosing to give plan 3 early, and choosing not to give the better pity. They're being fucking retarded and they come off as greedy kikes, which to be fair might actually be the reason why they choose to give some things early and some not
>>530715458yup and we should lynch anyone that said this would be f2p friendly. literal bait and switch.
>story sucks
>gameplay are daily chores
Replay persona 5. Stop wasting your time on this
>>530715242>100 >whalethat how much mid spenders would give, anon...
>>530715632Kasumi will save P5X for me. I hate playing P5R for Kasumi only for her to join way late into the game when you've already almost beat it
>>530715632no nigga. i'm not a autist that can replay games and enjoy them
>>530714971If you're happy then that's all that matters
>>530715332It's an Atlus developed game, they reuse assets as much as possible. Feel like they put more into composing all of the new music than most stuff
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By the way, did you know that CN version gives 100 gems every 5 stars in velvet trials and not a ramping up 50->100->150 like global?
the miyazawa fight was a pretty good boss. interesting gimmicks every phase and visually cool too.
>>530715632the gameplay in p5x is unironically better than p5x, no sp management autism, demons have unique passives which help make gameplay different, each party member has a unique kit that helps the team out in specific ways instead of being a gimped MC persona stand in. Quality of life brough in earlier instead of weeks into a social link like auto killing weak shadows. no calendar system so no calendar autism.
>>530715292Why is it not a buff
>>530715632I already replayed it a few months ago. The gameplay in p5x is pretty fun regardless and also same as
>>530715729
>>530715978because it's a accelerated banner, a buff to a universally skipped unit simply to induce FOMO. In what world is 3 banners in 2 weeks a buff? a buff to their pockets maybe.
>>530715936>gameplay in p5x is unironically better than p5x, Retardbro...
>>530715892>significantly reduce rewards gotten at the start of your gameplay from synergy and other one time rewards>put it all in the endgame max level contentThis is what I'd do if I wanted to maximise FOMO and EoS in 6 months.
>>530716154God you're so fucking retarded
what are the best teams for the velvet score attack and guild boss?
Did jannies delete posts in this thread?
>>530716157>retardbro...okay list why p5r is better than p5x. you know what I meant when all my points were why p5x>p5r gameplay wise.
>>530715632I've played Persona 5 three times.
Look at the bright side. We are getting palace 3 next month
>>530716273Explain why they went out of their way to remove early methods of obtaining gems without deflecting
>>530716323You really are retarded....
>>530716263whocaaars we don't have the currency to pull and they are buffing random units before they arrive to Global, i.e. Yui. so our meta could be completely different to established meta from cn
>>530716263ToT i love lavenza butt
should I not do the metro mode right now and return later? Why have me unlock it just to say this?
>>530716576It means you can insta-kill the enemies. The localization team is working very hard and trying their best
>>530716576it means you could instakill shadows if they are weak enough. not that they can instakill you. why would you even think that unless you are esl?
Pretty ballsy of them to do this at the start. You usually do this once they've invested enough time and money for them to quit
>>530715892So Global gives more gems?? I thought we were being cucked?!
>>530716948Sega does what Nintendon't...At least we had to wait until Dragalia...Lost...
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Is there any chance I can buy the 5* weapon case as a f2p or shoud I just blow my currency on the jewels?
>>530716948They didn't expect the Global/JP versions to be this popular while being a year behind I think. I'm just hoping they course correct and realise they could sustain these servers easily without all of this bullshit.
Jap businessmen are not known to be intelligent or use logic though.
>>530717087It's the same amount, but it's backloaded so you don't get shit at first and need to beat the hardest difficulties to catch up
>>530715910Why do banevaders even do this lol
>>530717087To make it easier to understand for you, here it is simplified:
>CN gives 100 gems, then 100 gems, then 100 gems>Global gives 50 gems, then 100 gems, then 150 gemsThe gem amount is the same, but now you have to wait exponentially longer to obtain the same amount of gems that CN got very early on.
>>5307171944k jewels is 40 pulls, more than half pity, on weapon banner. I'm really not sure that's worth it when you could get the selector weapon you want on losing the banner weapon instead.
>>530717386Oh, so essentially don't be bad at the game. Got it
>>530713672Why is she doing it?
28 more minutes until Sega redeems itself and all of you SEAflippagwagies apologize
>>530717567You are not getting to the end of the reward trees for any of those challenges for months.
Do you even understand what you're looking at or are you just trolling?
>>530715913But is his song is good as Kuichi’s?
>>530716263>VishnuSame as last week
>AtvakaMotoha, Yui/Marian, Filler
>>530717721the fag doesn't play the game
>>530717690What’s happening in 28 minutes? Daily reset?
>>530718009People can look at what Lufei Plan 3 gives
>>530717690More like 28 minutes until /p5x/ melts down...again...and again...
>>530716263SoS: Yui
Guild Boss: Yui
You rike?
>>530718009people are coping that marian is in lufel plans 3/4 but datamine says it isnt already
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>>530718418Time to leech off of the Companio whale again and take their Yui.
>>530718575even then, it's a character dupe, not a character. So even if marian was there, they'd still have to pull her first LMAO
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What do these stats do?
Wait do retards actually think the nurse is on plan 3 when it's been confirmed she won't come to standard until later? Lmao seapaggies are stupid.
>>530718673Getting a dupe + weapon without having to roll again makes Marian a much more appetising target to roll on to begin with ironically.
Reminder they're doing this to make things fair for everyone so people that look at gacha wikis don't have an advanatge vver casuals who can't google okay.
That's the real reason for sure
>>530718418I dont have yui... do I need healing or light dmg?
>>530718929>CN gets all of the content a literal year early>this is a bad thing actually
>>530718836There will be more dupes/free 5* weapons later too. So it's not a big deal
>>530718929>We want to minimize the gap between GL and CN>As part of this effort we are making balance changes to GL that are not in CN versions of the game
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HAIRY HAG PUSSY!
HAIRY HAG PUSSY!
HAIRY HAG PUSSY!
>>530718929Is this seriously what they said during the stream? I refuse to believe they are this daft
>>530719048why do you assume that? we are already not getting a dupe and 5 star weapon, if they are stripping rewards during the initial phase why would they suddenly be generous down the line?
>>530718929So they are doing this so the ones that have had the game for a year won't complain?
That doesn't make sense.
>>530719197I highly doubt they're removing the dupe and 5* weapon entirely. They're removing it for the absolute best target to receive it (if the datamine is true, we'll see in 15 minutes).
You're right though in that there is no reason to trust we aren't getting fucked in the ass yet again in the future.
>the last login bonus that gave plat and gold tickets went away when there wasn't a time limit on the event
Uhhh?
>>530719197we are getting it, it just doesnt include marian because she's not in standard yet
>>530718929>FUCK THE GWEILO! PREASE DON'T HATE US, CHINKS! PREASE KEEP PAYING AND PRAYING OUR GAME
10 MINUTES UNTIL NUCLEAR SEAPAG MELTDOWN
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Atorasu West Desu.
Mari ga arimasen.
Prease pay more.
Yoroshiku one-go fakku yuuserufu
>>530718929>1.1 livestream which is supposed to be for the global/JP audience goes out of it's way to kowtow to the CN region while saying that's why we're being fuckedAre you fucking kidding me
>>530718929Nice photoshop, seanig. Post a link and timestamp to exactly where they said this. Oh wait, you can' tbecause you made this shit up.
>>530719323It kind of makes sense when you realize how fucking ravenous CN players can be, but the game isn't even all that popular in CN so Sega is essentially fucking themselves over for nothing.
>>530719509that completely defeats the purpose of plan 3 and 4 and you know it. they are purposely gimping what we get compared to CN even tho they just stated
>>530718929 wanting to "minimize" the gameplay gap between global and CN. they are literally laughing in our faces.
>>530718929Why didn't they do a single worldwide launch?
>>530719943Why is the West playerbase such wimps?
>>530719765That's not what it's saying at all. They're saying it would be "unfair" to the global players who didn't know that Marian is getting added to standard after her banner because they just spent all their gold tickets without knowing.
Then they don't actually advertise the fact that she is getting added to standard at some point so those players won't know later anyway, but that's beside the point.
>Netori whale has no YUI a6 on assist
Less than 5 minutes until hopekeks get blown the fuck out
>>530720031You can still use plan 4 for a 4* like Shun's or Leon's weapon. And you can use a dupe for Ann, doesn't p5xg say that A2 Ann is OP AND NOT POWERCREPT?
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>>530719939it's literally in the livestream nigger
>>530719939ruh roh
https://youtu.be/nxtr-KuvQC0?t=3389
>>530717212if they were using any logic at all they would've launched the thing simultaneously to begin with
>>530719939Retard.
https://youtu.be/nxtr-KuvQC0?si=3Iz41VISdJSs6Oea&t=3399
>>530720354>Persona X-Stream ver. 1. 1This might be the worst title for a game's update preview I've ever seen
>>530720326>>530720354>the cock sucker suddenly not replying on cooldownmany such cases.
>>530718929So instead of giving compensation standard rolls to earn "goodwill" towards the casuals who never knew any better they decide to just fuck over everyone?
>>530720609wow schizo nigger much? Just admit you are wrong and kill yourself
>>530720714i'm saying the faggot is suddenly not responding, shitter.
it's so fucking over bwos
>>530720124>That's not what it's saying at all. They're saying it would be "unfair" to the global players who didn't know that Marian is getting added to standard after her bannerAbsolute bullshit. They specifically say they want all regions to feel fair and that it isn't if there's a difference in knowing what's coming or not. Which can only mean it's unfair to CN for us to have knowledge of future banners.
They go out of their way to APOLOGISE for witholding Marian and hoarding golden tickets for her, not the other way around.
If you were correct, they would have apologised for not saying Marian is coming to standard sooner instead but they did no such thing.
SHOW THE RECEIPTS. MINAMI 'S WEAPON IS NOT SELECTABLE. FUCK YOU NIGGER SEGA DEFENDERS
>>530720610Yeah it's a pump and dump. EoS is planned and they are just trying to get the most amount of money they can before they fuck off.
FUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK I AM GETTING SCAMMED
Here's how they can add her in
Incredible display of incompetence.
Like, fuck man, PGR pinched like 4 rolls at global launch and lost a shit ton of momentum. What made Atlas think they could get away with this shit?
DON'T REDEEM. THEY WILL ADD HER TO THE SELECTOR ONCE SHE ENTERS STANDARD.
>>530720936lmao it's joever
>>530721020No one ever gave a flying fuck about PGR
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>It's actually removed
and their main objective has been revealed
>>530720936No... Not like this...
>>530721020At least PGR actually apologized and gave extra actual worthwhile compensation by boosting all the daily/event rewards and shit. P5X isn't going to do any of that it seems.
I can't wait for random people to redeem the dupe thinking it's a character.
Stop being spoiled
Aceept what you can
>screenshotting reddit
the absolute state
Now I dont feel as bad for not pulling Minami anymore. Easy wait until its on standard.
You had to have been mentally disabled to think it was going to be in the pass after they went out of their way to remove Minami
PUMP AND DUMP
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They will roll out one final palace for CN, rush us to it and then announce the EoS they've had planned since the start.
>>530720865The slide on the screen isn't really related to what they're saying about Marian. They just threw it in there at the end when talking about the difference on event timings that's mentioned in the 2nd paragraph of the slide.
They think that people who had prior knowledge of CN timings and banners have an unfair advantage since they've been saving gold tickets since launch for Marian and they don't want that. Yes, they're being fucking retarded since people will save anyway and they aren't clearly communicating to everyone when/if Marian is coming to standard, but what can you do
Everyone at Sega should get dragged into the street and tortured to death. Fuck this game and fuck this company
open up your wallets, you third class pieces of shit.
I am completely demoralized
>>530721412good for the story honestly
lmao you guys were actually retarded
>>530721701>Yeah i'm just going to wait and see it with my own eyes bro>saw it with my own eyes after 3 hours>"erm heh... you were saying"yeah I did exactly what I said I was going to do.
>>530721570I did spend money thinking the game would be fair and last a long while. now? not a single penny more even if they change directions. I'm done.
Meh glad I held off on buy anything, even the monthly login bonus. Not worth putting money into this. I'll just play the story mode and sit on my pulls until Makoto shows up so I can roll for waifu
I guess I'm not pulling anymore until things get fixed, if they even do.
I'll just enjoy the story and events for now
>>530720936>Just save the chest until Marian is added to standard pool>Surely it will be retroactive
JP'S GONNA FREAK Hopefully. I regret buying the monthly + bp and ann dupe
As always, global players are ungrateful fucks that want everything given to them on a silver platter. This change was made to minimise the game in gameplay experience as casn be seen
>>530720326. You are all freaking out as if there's no SSR selector but it's still there!
End of service? More like end of week LOL
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>Image shows gems
>Doesn't actually include gems
Please please please tell me the CN version actually has gems as reward here
i got 53 hours out of it but it was fun, fuck sega and their jewish tactics seeya bros
>>530722082wow are you literally me? bought the dupe and monthly to have enough gems for the level boxes, was thinking of buying another monthly to have enough gems for the level 50 box but now? fuck that shit.
you think this game will eos like tribe nine?
>>530721701Playable merope when?
>>530722291See you next thread bro
>>530721701I want to rim Merope's asshole so bad.
>66% mixed reviews on steam
it was 71% like a few hours ago bros...
>I spend $100 in this kusoge
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all this pretty much confirms soft pity is gone, people just assume it was schizos but with evertything else they've done soft pity is likely removed too
>>530721561mindbroken SEA third worlder
>>530722470No it can still be saved. Tribe nine was doomed from the start with that ugly art style
>>530722705it literally is. i just hit 80 today. it was insane going 1 at a time from 70 and reaching 79 before it hit.
>>530722470it's going with the same fate as black beacon, their gobal version died after they showed favoritism only for the cn version
>>530722574Pathetic SEA players are finally starting to wake up and clock into their hate bandwagon shifts.
>>530722753Cope harder
It's fair
It's balanced
Stop bitching
>>530722705You can just ignore the trolling brown subhuman defending the game, everything bad about global is true.
The selector shit makes no sense, what's their endgame exactly? Is there really any chance in hell that this would get enough FOMO whales to compensate for all of the good will it's going to burn up? This isn't even milking dumb ameriburgers, it's fucking japs too. Is Sega retarded?
>>530722705No anon, what you're seeing is just anecdotal evidence. Just because any mention of soft pity is removed and too many people are hitting hard pity does not mean it's gone. It's called confirmation bias so please be respectful to the devs/publisher.
>>530723028Cry more, poor shitskin.
>>530722470My confidence is pretty low at this point. I'm thinking of the scummiest option where Global will speed run through CN content to "Catch up" and then once we catch up they will EoS all of the versions at once.
>>530722705Did anyone still doubt about it? That wouldn't ever become a topic if we did have.
>>530723084Sega knows burgers and japs won't do shit. They're (rightfully) more afraid of what the deranged chinks are willing to do if they so much as get slightly upset at being treated worse than other regions.
>comfy thread
>sea launch
>general turns to shit
I told you
>>530723084They must think that Persona is a strong enough IP that the game will persist. Still, it's all to chase short-term gains so it probably is a pump and dump at the cost of some reputational damage.
>>530723248based seaCHADS not like the globalcucks that slurp everything
>>530723248no I think the general turned to shit because global players are getting treated like slop eating dogs compared to chinese people
>>530723084They're simply being retarded. In both versions of the game the rewards is "technically" the same, a standard 5 star dupe and a standard 5 star weapon.
The difference is that in CN, by the time this reward got added, Marian was already added to the standard pool, so naturally her rewards were also included.
I would assume it's an oversight, but that just means the GL team is led by incompetent retards, which is hardly better than malicious kikes
The claims that soft pity isn't gone were always sus. iirc, other games usually have a handwavy thing about how "blah blah blah, the cumulative rate is [something %]". In this, it's just "There's a rate for rolls 1-79 and then another for roll 80".
>>530723248you'd be completely right normally but in this specific case it would have turned to shit regardless, with how awful the game launch actually is. prime shitposting material.
>>530723236what do you mean they would be upset about being treated slightly worse? they got dicksucked this whole time in CN with generous rewards, events, scheduling, etc. so treating global equally to what they got would be treating CN worse? delusional bullshit
>>530723329>They must think that Persona is a strong enough IP that the game will persistIt is. Do you see the comments on youtube and
>redditsaying it's "not that bad"?
>>530723248How do we stop them?
>>530723432this so much. suddenly I have respect for seaCHADS over ameriKEKS
Yeah nah gonna back to HSR and jerk off over Phainon. Fuck this shit
>>530723572Even Reddit is up in arms about the unequal treatment. It’s unironically over unless they 180 and just give us the same shit those godless communists are getting.
>>530723572What exactly is bad about not having any story content locked behind gambling?
>>530723572I know people said the loss of soft pity isn't that bad but I doubt they'll keep saying that now. That makes me interested in how the 110 banners will function now. There was no way in hell that there wouldn't be soft pity there but now? I don't even know what to think.
>>530723460correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the proof that soft pity exists come from that one discord screenshot? and doesn't the screenshot simply say that global has the same pity as SEA (basically global with a one week delay) and not CN/TW/KR? I never understood why people used it as proof for anything, but I may be misremembering.
>>530723997The shit that Global is already pulling they won't even give the 110 banner.
man what a fumble. first gacha game i've had any fun playing, 80 hours sunk in two weeks from exhausting all the content i could, so much potential. really hope some jap kyoani's out or something so these retards feel the pressure to stop treating global like shit
>>530723997I don't think the CN version of 110 banner has a soft pity. I could be wrong about that though
Why would a character not on the standard banner yet be in a standard selector
just leave a negative review. That's the only thing sega will listen to because less people are willing to play if the game is rated negatively
>>530723856Why would you assume no story content is not being locked behind gambling? They just showed us they are willing to change things in global so CN doesn't feel it's unfair, CN will get mad if global is able to enjoy story content without spending money and pulling for the patch's limited character. pretty stupid of you to assume they'd bring over the content unchanged from CN.
>>530724298Yeah, I agree with this Sega executive!
>>530724043Other way around but yes, basically the community manager said the SEA version has the same mechanics for soft pity as the global version (aka it doesn't exist)
Swapping awareness so you can hit big powerspikes at A2 instead of A3 is how you rebalance global to compensate for the accelerate schedule. When I noticed that, I had a lot of faith this would be a good global release.
I feel like people behind rebalancing genuinely tried to keep the game balanced for global players despite the accelerate schedule, but higher ups at Sega are probably pushing for cucking global in every other way out of greed and/or ineptitude. Shame.
>>530722470Why? Because Minami being added to the plans and standard pull have been delayed? No. Global/JPN are STILL going to pull more money than CN even as things are. Only f2p tards are shitting their pants right now.
>>530724375Just left a positive review.
The next survey is gonna look interesting for sure
>>530722470Don't fucking say that, man. I came here FROM Tribe Nine. I spent a MONTH trying to beat the final boss the rhythm game's hardest song only to get the EoS announcement a week later. I still have an outstanding art commission for that fucking game that won't even matter anymore because her game is fucking DEAD AND GONE. I'm not mentally prepared to handle a second loss of something I actually love and enjoy.
I'm getting close to 80 on the standard banner. Give me a couple more tickets and I will confirm if soft pity exists or not.
>>530724412Are you stupid? None of the story content in CN required gacha characters. Doing something like that would unironically get them in trouble in Japan.
>>530724623Sega isn't going to read the fucking tickets, feedback, or survey at all. How retarded are you faggots thinking those things actually matter?
>>530724570whales only spend money if there is a community of f2p to gloat at. if f2p leaves so will whales.
>>530724412>Why would you assume no story content is not being locked behind gambling?because it isn't in the chinese version, so why would it b-
...wait a sec bros
>>530724684P5X won't EOS but you'll probably wish it had, unless you're a whale of course. Then you'll still have fun and nothing really changed for you.
>>530724770This won't happen and nobody is quitting either. Everyone talks a big game but no one ever leaves.
>>530724720>Doing something like that would unironically get them in trouble in Japan.they've already gutted the game in every other way and japs have done nothing
>>530724684>tsuruko poledancing guy is still aliveit's nice to see a fellow /tng/ refugee out in the wild.
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>>530724719Want me to test for you? I'm thinking of dropping the game anyway so might as well
>>530724720are you stupid? they just showed they could give a rats ass about Japan and global, you are assuming story content will stay the same and clearable with any units. But that would be unfair to CN because global/jp has foresight so better up the difficulty. they literally said they will tune game balance, the game was too easy on CN so global will have the difficulty increased. just swipe and pull. this is what you want afterall.
>>530724719That's not what soft pity is
I will still play the game but man I hope they fix it
>>530724720Modern Japs are fucking spineless, no shit they'd just tank this. This isn't Nanking or Unit 731 era Japan
>>530724537thank you anon, glad I wasn't being a schizo.
>>530724908I spend a bit here and there, not much, but it's something. The original goal was A6 Futaba, but I don't know if they'll let me save enough before she releases with this schedule.
>>530724942Still hangin' on, yeah. It's been a rough bit though since my relationship of nine years ended in May and it's been a lot to process. I saw they released the story stuff, but I didn't really want to go read it because then I'd just be even more upset over how grossly mismanaged it was.
>>530725025They literally just gave global exclusive buffs for Yui retarded seanig
>>530724928>>530725025>They dont know gacha laws
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Soft pity is working great, I don't understand what you fags are complaining about
no minami dupe sucks, but her big powerspike in CN was A3 which is now A2 for us so it unironically balances out. she was never in the weapon selector in plan 4 btw. you fags are sperging out over nothing/ignorance of how balance in CN worked
>>530725025>We have pre buffed Joker>Yui is buffed
>>530724908I'll still have fun as a F2P since nothing is locked behind the gacha mechanics lol
>>530725356Ive seen this exact same screen shot 15 times now, good job changing the MD5 every time.
>>530725206how does that disprove anything I said retarded nigger? for patch 1.2 they will make the story require a defensive ice attacker, Oh who is the limited character? the boss will be unbeatable unless you have Yusuke or overlevel the palace by 10. They will keep doing it until EoS
>>530725356It's a feature unique from other gachas!
>new content is literally just Simulated Universe
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>>530725498ok another one then
Ok what if i want the best team for Summer Motoha i need:
Nurse
Chord
Right?
>>530725515>A defensive ice attackerShun
>>530725431How does this disprove anything? okay we get buffed units? your point? soon they will buff story content's hp and damage and introduce the newly buffed limited that you must pull to clear the story content. That's the only way CN will think it's fair for Japs and Burgers to experience p5x
>>530725515sure they will, in your head maybe. meds SEApag
>>530725603Except it's limited time and doesn't offer any extra rewards after getting all the achievements, so it's even worse
>>530725732with 5 dp points, counter will clear 3, and if you don't knock him down he kills your party.
>>530725654>Not Minami's banner>But the standard banner you've been sitting on for probably days now because u think when Minami gets added you'll just drop 1 gold ticket and get herok lol
>>530725392Maybe I'm coping because I redeemed the monthly gibs in the cash shop, but this does make it feel less bad. That being said I don't think they considered this when they made the decision to leave her off of the cognite selector. Was she really not on the weapon selector? Does anyone have screenshots of the CN version of the plan 4 reward?
>>530725743>They're going to fuck with global by making everything harder>Yet everyone is buffed since they require less investment to reach specific break pointsNever mind the fact that story content has always been balanced around the freebies. You're just making up imaginary scenarios to get mad at now.
>>530724129Yes you're absolutely wrong, and the only reason more people don't speak up about the banner disparity is because no one rolls on the 80 banner unless they're doing a content meme.
Soft pity starts at 70 on the 110 banner and usually leads to obtaining the character in 85-95 rolls as per a TW poll. with the absolute worst being at 100.
I couldn't play between reset yesterday and now, how bricked am I?
>>530725603>Simulated Universe>With less rewards>More restricted and lame achievements>Inventory cap on blessings so you don't get as crazy buildsbasically the same thing
>>530726058Just uninstall at this point
>>530726029>Never mind the fact that story content has always been balanced around the freebies.Right, they would never change things from the when they went on the CN server.
>>530726138I dont think I will, HSR sister
>>530726181>Kiuchi and Miyazawa are balanced around Motoha/Shun>But the third palace is definitely going to be balanced around Yusuke and not RikoAre you even listening to yourself?
>>530726191isn't that the name of kirito's sword
>>530726017CN selector is just "any standard dupe/any standard weapon for a character that was in standard when plan released". So technically it's the same in global. I'ts just that Marian is not in standard, so she's not in selector. E.G. new 4*s are not in the plan weapon selector either.
>>530726191It’s what the game calls Navigators for some godforsaken reason
>>530725515>ignore what they actually did that contradicts me they will do my headcanon instead For someone that hates browns so much you sure have identical if not lower IQ
>>530726384Right, they would never change things from the way they went on the CN server.
>>530725929Ok, here's my limited pulls. My Joker was on hard pity too, but it's not visible here.
Pages 1-8 are all non-5*, so I got Minami on pull 80. I can post them all if you think I got 2x 5* with exactly 80 pulls
>>530726612>C-certainly they'll fuck with the story on the third attempt
>>530726691>falling for bait and spending time doing thisHave you not noticed he's been shitposting for hours?
>>530726691That guy is shitposting for the sake of it you don't have to give him more material
This is stressing me out and making me sad. I'm gonna go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure instead.
kek pr*dw*n STILL has her A2/A3 awareness skills wrong. no fucking wonder you retards are freaking out so much if you get your info from websites like this. you dumbasses probably still think you need ann at A3
>>530726571are you the low iq nigger? who cares if they buff limited characters? we have an accelerated banner scheduled and shaved gem economy. they could buff every character yet you won't be able to pull the characters you need. The buff is useless unless it's to the 4 stars you get for story progression. understand retarded faggot?
>>530727121you don't need any character, story characters are free you subhuman third world monkey
>>530726985a2/a3 change doesn't matter retarded faggot when we have an accelerated banner schedule and 0 compensation gems.
How do you faggots have such bad luck?
I got 2 jokers in 50 pulls, and Minami in 30 pulls.
>>530727121Every fucking unit got buffed when they swapped A2 and A3. You're inevitably going to roll dupes for 4*s when you decide to roll because the pool is very small.
>>530727279>i-it doesn't matter that they aren't gibbing us a free copy of minami just because our version requires one less copy of minami for her to be S tier sustaintop zozzle. they are jewing us hard on gems tho true
>>530727263>can not readstop replying you esl gigaretard
>>530727353a nothingburger "buff" wow of course the burger would slurp it up.
It says I can hang out with Tomoko but when I go to her usual spot she's not there. Anyone know why? The time of day is right.
>>530727446>A nothingburger buff>Needing to roll one less dupe for units to hit their stride is a nothingburger buffRetard
>>530727121The more random bullshit you make up the better the case we have for sending your entire race to the gas chamber
whats skill rotation using the nurse i got her from assist, is it just 3>2>3>3>2>3>3>2?
>had to go to hard pity for Yui but got Minami in 30 rolls
I mean setting the weapon gacha aside I'm pretty sure I can get every character in this game at a lower or similar cost to reverse 1999
>>530727528Sorry little guy, she’s “busy” right now
>>530728076With what? She has no friends aside from Motoha and she can't even play baseball anymore.
>>530728054How's the napkin math on that looking for you, money-wise?
>>530728076yeah she's in her room being depressed
>we really REALLY want you to understand that this is a timeloop story
Yeah I get it you hack writers. You don't have to make it this fucking obvious.
>>530727353That buff is very insignificant for lots of people. Mainly the guys who just roll for 1 copy of a character to have them.
For 4*, you want A6 anyway.
I would never roll 2 extra copies of a limited character anyway, so I really don't care if A2 and A3 swap places
I could potentially get 2 extras of a standard unit, but I also can get 3 copies, just depends on luck. Yes, it's a little better, but it's really not a huge change considering it only affects a subsection of units and you need to get lucky/unlucky to get copies of the same unit anyway.
This is most relevant for spenders/savers who want a powered up version of their "main" or "waifu", so they can stop at A2 instead of having to go to A3
I want to pull Tomoko's toenails off one by one.
>>530725603And that's a good thing.
>>530728054I could try to meme building pity but frankly my like A2 Mona now is very solid and I'm getting Summer Moko.
Minami does nothing for me and I don't have any particular attachment to her.
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>>530728436Based slammer.
>>530728337they are being retarded on purpos anon, hell some people are happy we only get 1 guarantee every 4 banners instead of every 2 like CN
I'm coping with Sarasvati Wonder...
>>530728290Wonder is a product of Lucifer (Lufel). As punishment they are put in a loop trying to save the ones they corrupted on the real world (the menaces).
My theory
>>530728567Waiting for my Companio to roll Yui so I can yoink her for the FOMO content.
>>530728337you're saying this because your version of the game is the one where characters get huge powerspikes at A2 instead of A3. can you fucking imagine the melty if chinks had this instead of global? the grass is always greener
>>530726558I wonder how much worse the English translation is going to get as they get more and more rushed. Most of the game is already written in Japanese and all the voice work is done, so they can blast through the content as fast as they want to.
How fast will joker get powercrept?
>>530728967Obviously it's better to have the ability at A2 instead of A3, but I honestly wouldn't care if CN and GL both had the same system. I would think it's weird, since Hoyo games have the passive skill ups at 3 and 5.
Yes I would Melty if CN had ability at 2 and GL at 3, but that's because GL is already being shafted in so many other places that it would just be adding to the pile of shit
>>530728967Didn't the asian versions actually update to have this corrected? I thought this was a change that happened in CN and we're getting it earlier.
>>530728559Says the biggest retard in this thread right now.
>put Yui buffs on Joker
>Joker takes multiple turns
>Yui consistently gets several follow-ups
Fun duo for the current Subway Universe
>tfw byakko using def dagger doing more dmg than any of my teammates on chapter 2 boss
>>530729205The next Curse DPS is Berry. She just released and she doesn't powercreep him because she has a different niche.
>>530729232Yeah, they swapped A2 and 3 at some point (according to Lufel) but didn't make the change retroactive. We have it on every character from the start for consistency.
>pump and dumpsona x
gonna stick with umas instead lmao
no fucking way they're selling beef bowls for 280 yen
>>530729620It's a very small beef bowl...
I have a1 joker
Is there a way for me in the future to a2 him without summoning?
>>530729565>Yeah, they swapped A2 and 3 at some point (according to Lufel)?
Anyone had that pic for level 40 personas?
>>530729746how would we know? the rewards are different in global and CN. CN had a anniversary where you could choose any limited character. Will we get it? who knows.
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why on earth would you design a character with a 35% chance to perform their core ability?
Do you actually need a dedicated healer or is Marian just there as filler?
>>530730343>needNo, you don't "need" anything other than the characters they give you for free.
>>530730331She gets more consistent FUAs from her Skill 3 and her Highlight.
>>530730331You're supposed to use her Skill 3 or Highlight to make it consistent.
>>530730331Because you can get record scores by starting over and over until you win at rng. Bring gacha odds to the battles themselves.
>>530729432how good does joker stay? worth pulling?
>>530730605I have him and honestly no. he was good in the guild boss but you can borrow someone elses joker. in general content he is fine.
I’m too autistic to send the calling card before I 100% the palace and I’m only at 32% on the 2nd one, how bad is it to clear?
>>530729871You're looking at the wrong language. That's also not fixed on a lot of their English pages yet, for some reason.
https://lufel.net/character.html?name=%EC%95%88&lang=kr&v=2.0.0
https://lufel.net/character.html?name=%EC%9C%A0%ED%82%A4%20%EB%A7%88%EC%BD%94%ED%86%A0&lang=kr&v=2.0.0
Given the massive backlash, do you think that Sega will try to appease JP players?
>>530731209They’re probably working on console versions to get more money if anything
>>530731209nope. what backlash? they will tank it and keep playing. simple as.
>>530731279They just like me
>>530731090it's the case in korean too. i admit i haven't played CN/KR in a while but unless lufel is out of date then A2 is still the skill increase and A3 is the new passive
>>530731262this is making it so I'd pirate the next persona game guilt free. I'm getting my money back one way or another.
>>530731018Not complicated or anything, just takes a while since it's huge.
>>530731279>nope. what backlash? they will tank it and keep playing. simple as.I love being this delusional. FGO devs were forced to make an adjustment when they added a system that the Japanese fanbase hated.
>>530731464...why would you ever have guilt from pirating in the first place?
>>530731018Gonna take you hours. You also can't clear it floor by floor, there are items in later floors you need to unlock other parts of earlier floors.
How's the auto-battle AI this retarded in the Metro, holy shit
I picked Ryuji's weapon instead of Ann's. On one hand, I got the 100k+ damage in a single hit achievement, on the other hand FUCK
>>530731597I am a fatlus enjoyer. but after this fuck off.
>>530731639Sorry but you will have to play the game
>>530731596fgo is a jap gacha catering to japs. p5x is a chink gacha that is speed running EoS and draining any dime they can off of japs and global. it's not the same situation.
>>530730769thanks, my team isnt that good but maybe i should save for the future anyway
>>530731982>headcanon out of nowhere
>>530731639>Beat all enemies without having to fight>Fight boss, put on auto battle and go take a shit>Come back, Joker is almost out of mana and the bosses are almost full hp>Play manual and kill them in 2 turn cyclesI don't even know what the boss mechanic was. I think the 2 bosses healed each other if you didn't kill at the same time or something
>>530731639Can’t be any worse than the auto battle for recollections kuichi not targeting the cheerleaders
>the ring in the stuff they gave after maint raises motoha's link by 500
can it go to waste or do the points stack up even with a personality block?
>>530732575The points get counted towards your progress for the next levels even if you can't unlock them yet.
>>530732679might as well throw it in then. For all i know raising ranks to 15+ takes more than 500 points.
>>530732193He's been doing that all day anon.
>>530732193quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck. It's a duck.
Why does the Campanio want us to beat up Hindu gods
>That little butt shake Minami does when she's waiting on you to select her action
MY FUCKING DICK
>steam still at 20k plus players
AHH PEOPLE ARE LIKING THE GAME TOO MUCH. AT THIS RATE SEGA WILL JUST TANK THE HATE WAVE
>>530730240You will get an anniversary EOS.
>>530733160Merope's the one who made her so what did she mean by this
>>530733134SMTVV had too much of a boner for them, so we swung back in the other direction.
>>530733160the jiggle is kinda crazy too...
Wonder's not right in the head.
>>530731464same
>but denuvothere's ways to pirate thanks to steam refunds
>>530733215did you really think global would care? it's persona who cares if we are 2nd class citizens and CN's buckbroken bitch
>>530733215This is nothing compared to the scam of Shadowverse Worlds Beyond, and I assume WB is still strong for the time being despite being the most shameless scam fake rerelease of a game ever.
>>530730240>It would be unfair for people that have knowledge of this anniversary gift>So Global servers won't get anythingthank you sega-sama
>>530725392I sincerely think you could ask people outraged over the selector debacle why they're mad and they would just give some intangible "i want more gibs". Zero understanding of how the games are balanced differently, just seething over fewer handouts.
CN needed 3 pulls plus the free cogni for her to be meta, we just need 3 pulls so we can use the cogni selector to buff up Ann (who can also hit meta status with one less dupe btw) or maybe Ryuji (same thing, only needs A2). People are mad about this? If I was a chink I'd be fucking seething that westerners get to speedrun the game's contents while every character has been buffed to hit powerspikes much earlier with less investment/pull luck necessary. I don't know why they're being so reserved with gem handouts, that seems pretty lame, but otherwise global version seems fine from where I'm standing. Not pulling for Marian's banner btw, holding for standard here in like a month or whatever.
>>53073321520k is nothing lmao
>>530733215>from 40k peak on the first day to 20k nowumagods keep getting new peaks and they retain players better
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>>530733710>I sincerely think you could ask people outraged over the selector debacle why they're mad and they would just give some intangible "i want more gibs". Zero understanding of how the games are balanced differently, just seething over fewer handouts.>CN needed 3 pulls plus the free cogni for her to be metaJust make things the same in both versions.
Imagine doing this much hoop jumping and goalpost moving to slurp for no reason whatsoever.
Literally just make the same stuff the same in all regional versions.
Copy
Paste
Ain't that complicated.
And it's entirely fair for people to be pissed off at the disparity.
>>530733860Umakeks have to keep the game open for five hours just to auto the dailies.
>Crepe part time work
>Customer asks for strawberry crepe
>Lufel says bake the batter, put in the strawberries, then the cream, and wrap it all up in the crepe
>bake the batter
>add strawberries
>put in the cream
>wrap the crepe
>wrap with paper
>Lufel says it's not great
Did I do something wrong? Or is this just the localization being shit again?
>>530734080Localisation is shit. They missed a step, you actually need to put in kiwifruit second, then follow the rest of the steps
>>530733710are you retarded? the fact is they are speeding up the banners JUST so they can fuck with the account power we SHOULD be getting. They just had to translate and move things over 1:1 for global. But no. and now we are even getting less gems, less time to save, more banners up at the same time. why would anyone give a fuck if now we only need 3 copies of a unit instead of 4? our currency is so fucked we will only be able to get 70 pulls worth of gem every patch. 3-4 patches to get ONE fucking copy. so where the fuck are we getting copy 2 and 3 to hit this mythical powerspike?
>>530734080>Did I do something wrong? Or is this just the localization being shit again?Same happened to me and I was sure I got the order right, on that exact event I believe.
>see top players ranks
>all whales
sasuga
Not being able to change your party in the Metro is fucking ass
>>530734239Why were you expecting otherwise in a GACHA game?
>>530734239Yes? Are you some retard that thinks a f2p can compete?
>>530734239>check the whale ranks>it's full of whales
>>530731446Yeah, "didn't make the change retroactive" means that they didn't apply it to old characters like global is getting. Looking through all the character pages, it seems like the change happened at 3.0.1 (Mont).
>hang out with Merope
>she immediately starts assaulting girls with questions with no time to answer them
>>530734408Gotta build around the boss and hope the mid bosses and possibly unskippable normal encounters don't screw you over.
>>530734515I loaded up my TW version of the game, and yeah the old characters still show A2 as +2 levels to skills.
Oh TW also got 300 gems for their patch update + their login event for the new patch is 10 plat tickets and 5 milicoins.
>>530733985You know, I don't even disagree that I'd prefer if things were just done identically to CN if not just because having to adapt to all of the balance changes and differences in rewards/compensation is a lot more stressful than just getting to autopilot using meta knowledge of how the CN version was paced/balanced. That being said I think people are more upset that they think this version is worse or that their accounts are in a worse state than CN accounts were at this stage in the game's life, not that there's a difference between versions period. I'm not seeing "why is the balance different? I'm confused and angry", I'm seeing "REEE GLOBAL IS TREATED LIKE SHIT, I'M NEVER PLAYING AGAIN" which just seems like overreacting from people who just see that we're getting less gibs and feel like they're flatly worse off for it.
>>530734236You don't need multiple copies of meta limiteds, those are OP units at one. Any dupes are just gravy. You didn't have a shot in hell at getting A3 for limited units in CN either just because they got like 10% more pull currency per patch cycle.
The passive at A2 buff benefits 1) 4*s hitting big power spikes earlier so we can smoke side content more easily and quickly and 2) standard 5*s like Ann and Marian hitting meta levels with one full less copy which is a massive deal.
niggers you know they win no matter what with this approach
>if the players flee they milked as much as they could've in a short period of time
>if player count and spending remians strong they know they can get away with minimum effort and maximum jewery
>>530734876>m seeing "REEE GLOBAL IS TREATED LIKE SHIT, I'M NEVER PLAYING AGAIN" which just seems like overreacting from people who just see that we're getting less gibs and feel like they're flatly worse off for it.To be fair when you're getting to whalebait shit like "oh you might need 3 copies of the limited unit than 4", you're already skipping things that apply to 99% of players.
It's fair to say that between the speed-up, no soft pity, generally smaller rewards, delayed move to standard which in turn makes a character ineligible for a SSR selector... like all that shit adds up and is tangible.
Some whale jerking off his A2 vs A3 whalebait just ain't it, and there's frankly no reason to acknowledge or bring it up except to "Uhm Ackshually" for completion.
>>530734876it's not less gibs? where the fuck are you getting this from. it's the blatant treatment of global as 2nd class citizens. They are fucking us bad for zero reason. I'm just glad they went mask off in the first 2 weeks rather than 2 or 3 months down the line when we are invested.
>>530735115>Subway Sissy has a vocal song>Evil Eater doesn'tQuality is already in freefall
I don't get why you guys are seriously trying to discuss accelerated content shitposts that came straight out of a decade old SEA playbook for gacha games
Just insult them for being the worst kind of yellow and let them melt down
>>530734920You know what would have been an even bigger win? Building a strong playerbase with a very strong IP without having to resort to any of this at all.
I honestly don't think they expected anywhere close to the numbers they got for the new regions. It feels like they expected them to fail. The jewery is one thing. But so little time and effort has been put into any of the actual community management. Do you know that all the old regions get patch notes in advance + dev commentary?
It's funny because some changes to global (pretty much everything unrelated to pull currency and rates) are actually really good, lots of QoL that took a long time to be added to older versions. The only shit change outside of the pull currency fuck overs is the level gating.
But it's all overshadowed by everything else and zero real communciation on all of this shit.
>>530725498Here you go just happened to me.
I hate the flame wave shit in the subway mode like you wouldn't believe.
>>530735902>take blessings>the flame wave now gives you giga shields and makes you super unkillable
I think it's time to go back to genshin
What are route tickets for?
The Metro difficulty modifiers have to be a translation error, right? No way it's just +5% HP and +5% Attack? Surely they missed a 0?
>>530736112spin the wheel event
>>530735831>He hit 79/80 on joker's banner then waited for Marian's banner to carry over the pityDoesn't count
>>530736143It also increases the enemy levels, which is much more significant
I don't even know why they bothered with the effects on the level up difficulties desu, they should be for the max level extra difficulties like HSR/ZZZ does it
>>530735289Spinning "this 5* character only needs 3 copies to be meta instead of 4" as whalebait rather than a f2p friendly change to compensate for the accelerate release schedule is an... interesting argument. Although I do think they're whalebaiting hard by not specifying if/when Marian will be added to standard.
>speed-upWe'll see how this plays out long term, but for casual players this just means more content faster which is fine for them and whales don't give a shit either. The only people who are mad about speed-up are people who want to be meta but still be f2p (I'm also doing this, but let's be reasonable, this is a minority of players).
>no soft pityShitty if true. We'll likely never know for sure but anecdotally pulling in this game does feel worse than most other gacha to me.
>generally smaller rewardsProbably the worst part about the global release aside from the lack of communication. It's the one thing that they're utterly failing to adjust for to compensate for the accelerated schedule, and ironically they seem to be going the opposite direction by reducing rewards.
>delayed move to standardFundamentally pretty understandable as compensation for the accelerated schedule. If she's added to standard any later than on a 2 week delay though, that's scummy.
>which in turn makes a character ineligible for a SSR selectorAgain, not really relevant since she hits meta at 3 copies now (CN needed 3 pulls + selector, we just need 3 pulls so the selector isn't necessary). If we did get a selector, that would genuinely be unfair to the chinks since we'd need only 2 pulls for a meta unit.
>>530735350Less gibs is like 90% of what people have been seething about for the past 48 hours. Where are my codes, where are my maintenance gems, where are my selectors, where are my tickets.
i have ann and ryuji A2, but ryuji only has a 3* wep while ann has 4*. Which wep should i pick from the luffel 5* rewards? Is anns better or should i use it for ryuji to get better?
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It's over...
>>530736207Oh, no wonder i couldn't find a use for them within the mode.
>>530736502When mods have to address doomposting you know the gacha is fucked lol
>>530736502>seganobody actually running the game is involved with that reddit at all
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>>530736528>picrelis this not you? literally arguing a2 is whale shit but now you are saying a2 is actually f2p friendly change? you are just spewing bullshit and trying to play both sides
>>530736214got Joker on my first 10 pull rerolling but nice try schizo-kun
>>530736502NO NEGATIVITY IN THE DOJO
>get the prayer board item since it has three good outcomes out of four
>they don't tell you that the bad outcome has a higher than 50% chance of occuring
>>530736502didnt they just state they'd allow players to discuss the negatives about the game?
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!fuck off, lynch all mods
>>530737026>You can talk about negatives>People running around calling each other cucks and doomposting instead of any meaningful discussion
Lufel Plan status? Was Marian removed?
>>530737365>Calling it the cashgrab it is is now doomposting
>>530736502>Mod apologises for locking and deleting anything even remotely negative>even more bad news gets revealed and sub inevitably gets flooded with disappointed redditors>Mod immediately switches back to a vague "be too negative and perish" stanceAlso, it's not a reviewbomb when there is an actual tangible issue with the way the game is being handled. That's just called leaving a negative review with reasoning.
>>530737429>Too lazy to read the image and instead argued based off shit you made up in your headThey were complaining about people spamming EOS EOS EOS EOS EOS like a bunch of parrots
Yo what? is this normal? we have new banners already? but joker has 13 days remaining and there's two new units on seperate banners?
Do I need Yui's 5* weapon or is 4* good enough?
>>530737662Enjoy the accelerated schedule
>>530737365>meaningful discussionlol I'm sure you can get back to this is my waifu posting next thread
>>530736859I guess you could say I'm playing both sides in the sense that standard 5*s and limited 5*s should be evaluated differently in terms of economy.
Characters getting a new passive one full copy earlier at three pulls is f2p friendly for standards. You want to get units like Ann and Marian to their second passive, and we get that in 3 copies rather than 4. That's very good for GL f2p players. For limiteds though, it's still going to be really unlikely and/or expensive to get more than one copy let alone 3-4, so the GL buff to awareness passives doesn't really impact them much. The buff therefore isn't a big real for limiteds because 1) they're already very strong at one copy and 2) getting them their second passive is unlikely whether it happens at A2 or A3. In a similar vein, it wouldn't matter if you were on CN either, your ass is likely not getting Joker's second passive without a lot of luck or money. Neither the A2 buff (GL) nor getting an extra few hundred gems here and there (CN) will help you there.
tl;dr for 5* standards I'd argue GL is better off being able to hit meta with one less copy, for 5* limiteds it doesn't really matter one way or the other because you are unlikely to get their second passive f2p on either version of the game. Less gibs feels bad but ultimately will probably come down to like 10 fewer pulls per patch. People are literally throwing shitfits out of the irl equivalent of like 75 cents worth of meta jewels.
>>530737506>>530737531lol, OK that's the last straw. Fuck Sega. Guess I'm sticking to HSR still.
>steam is dead on a thursday
time to do dailies in Fortnite in the Rock Band mode I guess
>>530737662Accelerated release plan to catch up with CN, with unfortunately less resources.
They're speedrunning EoS on Global.
>>530737662Wait for Minami to be added to standard
>>530737638>The game won't EoS because I say soConvincing reasoning, fagtron.
Is there a tier list for weapons?
>>530737871Personally? i'm playing Starsector
Slam Jam
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>>530736528>Spinning "this 5* character only needs 3 copies to be meta instead of 4" as whalebait rather than a f2p friendly change to compensate for the accelerate release schedule is an... interesting argument.Bruh 99% of the time in these games, players are at 1 copy, maybe 1 weapon or whatever. In extreme outlier cases with some whalebait power spike at the 2nd or 3rd copy, you get people to go that far.
It is very rare.
>which in turn makes a character ineligible for a SSR selector>Again, not really relevant since she hits meta at 3 copies nowThe fuck is that fuckin argument?
Fuck off with that shit.
Making her ineligible for a SSR selector or something is strictly a massive Fuck You.
Don't try to Uhm Ackshually some fuckin whalebait or weird RNG shit "hrrrr shes only meta at 3+ copies".
I have zero ways to convey a response to that which don't involve telling you to fuck off repeatedly.
>>530737871Is SSJ4 Goku in that game yet? I started playing when Doom Guy was in, returned for a bit when Snake got added and then Master Chief came back, but haven't touched it since.
This is the worst handled gacha I've ever seen
>>530737778of course you need the 5 star, it gives the party wide attack buff to make her not a waste of a slot
>>530737850not even 10 fewer pulls per patch, it's a lot less because of the soft pity situation. it's probably 15-20 pulls less that you get to use on the next character you want to pull for. that adds up with each patch that comes.
>>530733710>CN needed 3 pulls plus the free cogni for her to be metaMarian's A1 is the damage buff. A2 (A3 in CN) is an output buff for the single target heal. I don't think that's nearly as relevant as A1.
I haven't played the other version so I don't know though
leave a negative review on steam and hope for naked dogeza by tommorow
>>530738047No it's still just Goku with the face that's just off enough to feel wrong and Goku Black
>>530738227Shitskinned subhuman
>wizardry gacha was managed better than Persona
Crazy.
>>530737871>in the Rock Band modePOST YOUR BAND CLUB PROGRESS RIGHT NOW
>>530738225A3 Marian is the one that's meta, not A1.
>>530737915About that? is she not a proper 5*? her banner is half the length as Yui's? but they don't make it seem like one is stronger than the other and she's not a 4*.
>>530737827>>530737893Oh it's a turbo accelerated schedule, that's awkward.
>less resourcessurely after people point out how silly that is we'll get events to compensate with the speed we're going?
even ignoring the pulls, the resources requirement alone would cripple people.
>>530738371They've been "secretly" removing some negative ios and android reviews. They won't apologize or give compensation
>>530738108I've seen worse. Nothing is ever going to top the Idol gacha release being announced and then the EoS notification being served on the same day.
This is just typical JP/SEGA stupidity and they have done this dozens of times over the last decade. It's honestly on the verge of being a mental illness how they handle their properties
>>530738416>game had literally no new content for months Yeah that's probably an SEAgger's wet dream
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>>530738437I could be wrong, and I'm citing Prydwen here of all things, but this is saying A1 is most important and the cons section says she should be spamming skill 3 (not the ability buffed by her A3)
>>530738416Theres a fucking wizardry gacha? How much of that fanbase would even translate into gacha players? Sounds pretty doomed to me
>>530738723>PrydwenStop citing them
>>530738449LOL nope they are saying tank it like a good cuck and spend money. they are giving us less gems, less compensation from patches, no codes from livestreams, and pushed lufel plan 3 ahead so they wouldnt have to include nurse in it.
>>530738807Ok, give me a resource that says A3 for Marian is the meta then, because like I said, A1 is the one that actually buffs her damage. From my experience, that's the shit that's actually good for healers to get, so I'm inclined to believe them on this one
>>530738624How is that worse? that's actually for the best. Hey we know this game is shit so we will tell you right now we are EoS. they could have kept quiet and spammed bundles in the shop and then say they are EoS a month or 2 into it's lifetime.
>>530720936slurpsisters... what's our cope now?
>>530738416lets not get a head of ourselves now..
>>530738012>Bruh 99% of the time in these games, players are at 1 copy, maybe 1 weapon or whatever. In extreme outlier cases with some whalebait power spike at the 2nd or 3rd copy, you get people to go that far.For standards? I disagree. They throw a lot of golden tickets and selectors at you. It's dead simple to have Ann at meta for global because you only need 3 copies. Luckshit into one, grab her from one selector, grab her from the cogni, done. Luckshit into one, buy the $15 goyshop one, grab her from a selector, done. Much cheaper and easier than it was on CN to get Ann to meta. Same goes for Marian.
>The fuck is that fuckin argument?Basic arithmetic..? If you were playing on CN when Marian was added to standard and didn't pull her from her banner, you needed to pull her three times as a standard then use her cogni selector for her to be meta. On GL, if you have a similar goal, then you also need to pull three copies (no free cogni, but she hits meta with one less dupe so it evens out).
>"hrrrr shes only meta at 3+ copies".I mean she is. Sustain just isn't that important, let alone a suboptimal unit.
>>530738142I'm keeping an open mind that the increased schedule and dubious pacing with rewards will cause issues down the line. So far it's fine imo (because Yui is ass and Marian will likely be standard pretty soon), but of all the complaints people have about GL so far, people should be very vocally upset about how reserved they're being with jewel handouts despite how fast banners are coming. It just feels bad to feel like you have to constantly skip and ignore banners because they come too fast and you have too few free pulls, and it'll get really messy here in a couple months with Chord/Queen/Futaba/S.Motoha all just flying in one after the other if you can only pull like 60 times a patch f2p.
>>530738801It's surprisingly a really good game. The gacha portion is ass but it's borderline irrelevant.
It's a single player game first and foremost. It's also the hardest gacha I've ever seen.