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>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-04-2025-update.70156/
>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.
>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc
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>>530275607
leavers in every other game now
Same problem heroes for various patches like Geist, Warden, Seven but now Shiv and Abrams are unkillable, and Mcginnis has tanky turret nests certain heroes can't even kill. Nothinburger patches that probably don't actually reflect how the game will be in the future just to placate the few people that stuck around after 90% of the playerbase left due to garbage choices.
And while all this is going on there's a super secret real playtest that only pros and streamers have access to, and they are all the devs will balance around. Fuck this garbage.
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
Agreed, which is why Valve should add a hero with Kindred's appeal to wash out the DEI stink.
>>530782557 (OP)Could've at least posted the gif
>>530783469The issue is that the most dishonest heroes are the strongest and it just makes the game unplayable. McGinnis and Geist can sit back on top of a building by a walker and spam turrets or bombs and shove waves infinitely for the entire game without any consequences. Bebop gets lucky with a hook and gets a free kill because yes. Shiv and Abrams, like you said, don't die. I guess I'm playing more out of habit at this point but this is actually a really unfun game, everything feels so janky and off still, and it's just designed to keep making you fail even if you get really good at the mechanics and macro.
The overwatch general was nice enough to welcome us and you guys decided to make another thread. That was very rude of you guys.
>>530785612I don't say this lightly but /owg/ might unironically be one of the worst generals on this board. And that's a high fucking bar.
>>530785797you're not wrong and this is coming from someone who has been there since ana released like 8 years ago now
that being said this one is not really all that much better. same pointless spam, same hopeless optimism that is destroyed by valve themselves time and time again, same outbursts at anyone that tries to warn about their development patterns. At least they've got the porn to justify it even if it has brought even worse posters than this place.
>>530786014idk bro this general hasn't quite seen literaly race porn spam for hours on end nor does it have resident bot that just posts the same images over and over years. And we talk about the game so actually shut the fuck up what are you even talking about
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post your select screen anon
>>530783624How do you know Haze is black
I knew I was e6 and not archon!
>>530786303But it does? One with haze and calico, amnother with lol chimps pics
MM is clearly too broken, why won't valve do a rank purge every once in a while?
>inb4 they dont care about ranked anymore
Yes but it shouldn't take too much effort to just ask people to recalibrate every season or so
>>530792307ritual posts are not even close to what i was referring to. There's no way you consider these posts on par with literal scat porn and image spam. What is your agenda?
I love throwing bola at Lash.
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>>530787123LOOK
At the picture
SEE
The black woman
>>530787037pocket yam and shiv all purple
devs should be shamed simply because they claim this is a playtest yet allow
>constant creation of smurfs
>said smurfs frequently just abandon games that aren't going their way to go to next account
they just don't give a fuck unless you're on the streamer patch
>Try to watch gameplay
>Guy playing Bebop whining about other laners being OP
>Various random videos of people stacking on smurfs just stomping shitlow lobbies
>Complete whingefests all game
>People putting on some fake gay streamer persona parroting the same gay shit again over and over
I understand this game is dead but jesus christ, why are these faggots all so insufferable?
>>530792848I dont know I dont care for any other general on this board
3-4 am queue is wild, just pure shitlow. hilarity ensues
>>530787037ivy purple shiv yellow mokrill and seven white
>>530800753>Try to watch shit>see poopwooooooooow
Can they please fix grenade aoe indicators? this problem has been in this game since the start iirc. The indicator disappears on slopes or elevated areas.
>>530784165valve can't make appealing sexy furries
post the down-faced squirrel and i'll kick your balls
>want to play deadlock
>remember that I'll have to jungle or crate hunt 50% of the game
>don't want to play deadlock
The only fun part of the game is the lane phase
>>530813762for me its midgame brooling when gun feels less shit
>>530809452McGinnis is strong this patch with her turrets, further stalling the game forever. What the fuck is going on at valve, no one likes 50 minute games where you farm
>>530814767mgcinnis is balanced in the doorman version of the game
you are playing a fake playtest designed to test the limits of what a player will tolerate
>add 1 more set of towers to lane
>place all jungle creeps along the lane as a fallback if your team is behind on souls
>keep crates as a source of souls while rotating
or
>no crates
>can only farm jungle on the enemy side of the map
>keeping camps on your side alive gives passive soul income
>losing a tower will make camps in the area neutral and killable by anyone but the passive gain is lost
would that work?
yoshi is not actually icefrog, it is the cartoon persona of the gnostic demiurge, summoned and hire by gabe newell to torture the lost souls of TF2 trannies who keep calling him gaben
>>530809452if you are jungling 50% of the game you are literally throwing, unless you are one of the deaignated jungle jannies
>check global rank on hero I just started playing
>top 300
>i'm archon
lel
Vyper is the most fun gun character in this game.
Valve needs to add cuter heroes to this game. That's an undisputable fact.
>>530823290>add cuter heroessure, if they leave our goblin as is
>>530809376This is some real fandom cringe, well at least its not gay
>>530823703this general has to be the most joyless in the entire site
>>530825846this general isn't that bad, a lot of others are propped by porn spam and bots (fgc threads)
>>530825915didn't say bad, just joyless
any time anything that isn't doomposting, coomposting or bitching about a game gets posted there's some tard calling it gay and cringe
>>530825846Vidyagames are a serious business you know. Also twitter memes suck
>>530826239if people stopped giving (you)s to obvious baitposting things would be 100% better but tards can't help themselves.
>load into game
>half the retards go 1/10 every match
ugh, what happened?
>>530826720if icefrog was my dad things would be different around here
>>530823485Me when urn and noones coming to help
>>530827765But he isn't because he is my dad. I keep asking him to nerf Ivy from time to time
>>530828593"daaaaaad, nerf ivy and lower cooldown reduction by 1%!"
"sure thing kiddo!"
Does anyone have any boltmaxxing tips? I've accepted that Im never going up in the ranks and just dedicating my life to mastering the way of the bolt
>>530828815And he does it everytime! Best dad ever
>>530833967He sucks the will to live and enjoyment of the game from every opponent, in lane or after it yes
>>530809376I like it when anons draw fanart
>>530835413WARDEN HAZE 7 MINIMAP
>>530835682can he do that without farming the whole game though?
>>530823290viscous is cute shut up
don't worry...we're getting like, 30 heroes in just a few days! any second now....
>>530795640this but sleep dagger
I used to like playing this game but I'm bored of it now. I've tried every meme build I could think of to excess.
>Gun McGinnis hasn't been going the best
>Bite the bullet and attempt Turrets
>A little after lane and right after maxed Turret level, Vyper is getting shredded by two (2) turrets
>On their own, as in just the turrets with no other outside input
How the hell does someone even let this shit happen to them?
>>530797010Yeah but that could just be a bunch of smoke and shadowy shit around her, what if she's like Irish or Asian underneath in actuality
Tl;dr she might be covered in black, but she might not be black
In case you retards didn't realise Haze cannot be black because SHE IS NOT HUMAN
what if....haze was actually debra wilson? and MadTV era debra wilson when she was hot
>>530845421debra wilson is the patroness
>>530844459>How the hell does someone even let this shit happen to them?the turrets themselves have dogshit sound design for the guy getting shot
in a game with actually pretty good sound design like this one they go wayy under the radar so instead of the player going "OH SHIT OH FUCK" like in tf2 whenever you hear the BRBRR of a lvl3 sentry spotting you you just get the little pwteu pwteu as your health plummets to the marianna trench
>>530840909But how else is he going to suck the farm from his team then?
>>530846609good point, yea the turrets need to have way better sound feedback
>>530845421nah, haze would work best as way moer abstract smoke-like creature compared to what she is now. Like a ghost who can barely keep itself and its clothing/weapons together
>>530842806This but Slowing Hex
>>530846609They were wide out in the open in the lane and I was off in the secret shop buying shit and I see Vypers HP bar plummeting. I don't even think I had any friendly troopers either.
god what a fucking DOG SHIT patch
patch preview we're removing ivy
a good sinclair is so strong but Ive only seen one
>>530850989I tried playing sinclair and it felt like I got good rabbits off but my damage done was always sorta mediocre because I was going bolt build and it felt like it was so fucking easy for people to just dodge my bolts half the time. It felt like I would come out of lane really strong for a few minutes then fall the fuck off and if somehow it went late I'd be good again but only if people forgot spellbreaker exists.
>>530850989A stack with a Sinclair is an absolute menace, if they can all coordinate around rabbit
>>530851185the sinclair I saw bought alch fire and winter blast, maj leap, t4 cd, lightning scroll, would be everywhere and tp to the clones after pushing a wave, had an ult every 30s. no one bought slowing hex or curse
God I hate the jungle, it's not even worth interacting with anymore and the team that doesn't realize this is the one most likely to lose. The whole map is covered with shit that might as well not even be there.
>>530851925yea i hate the jungle, like, what's the point? yoshi should add a DDR minigame or something
>>530845057You're not human gaylord, also learn to directly reply instead of being cute about it
>>530851336yeah like the rabbit amp is fucking insane with shit like lash/dynamo. the whole downside of someone being faster while hexed goes away when they're inside a blackhole or knocked up
>>530851649rabbit amp, alchemical fire and winter blast giving damage amp as well. sounds painful.
>>530853508Or Vortex, which all sinclairs is building nowadays
>download deadlock
>delete deadlock
>re download deadlock
this costs valve hundreds of dollars, we will avenge artifact!!!
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>>530860931You should check the replay to see how much the enemy team seethed at that kek
>>530861180does replay save voice coms? Ive never noticed
>>530861427It saves all chat and ally chat so if they typed anything you can see it
JUST LET ME PLAY WARDEN
FUUUUUCK
>>530860931The glorious team's arrival and mnK being cucked out of the ult, absolutely perfect
>>530860931If you're gonna catbox it why still remove the sound?
>>530862463I was in a call with some friends (still soloq tho) and want to be anon
>>530863730>dude I must discord my friends while I play!!!least homosexual kelvin
>>530866431I'm sorry you don't have friends
>>530867387It's okay but please fuck off
>kelvin players also groom sexually confused discord teens while playing
damn
>>530866431Why are you such an ass for no reason
>is that a gamer app that people use to vc with their friends while they play deadlock
>AHHHHH IM GOING INSANE
kek
>>530870381real gamers use mumble
I miss the old item system because I actually bought gun items then. Now it's cultist sacrifice MAYBE and that's it. I liked just having that free slot for things like mystic shot and spirit resist shredder
>>530870063>>530870381I'm not gonna ask again
>>530845057I mean, niggers aren't human either.
>>530845057Wouldn't that mean Infernus isn't black either?
>>530871353People still use Mumble? Idk I stuck with Teamspeak for the longest time but basically all my friends switched over to Discord. Really isn't that bad if you use it for its intended purpose
>>530875742discord is more or less openly monitored and feeds everything to federal agencies. not a big deal if you're some valve dev in a official capacity, but I enjoy real privacy
>>530845057Someone on this site claiming blacks are human? 4chan has fallen, billions must complain
>>530875742Discord also fucking sucks and has too many pedos and trannies in it, just use steam voice chat instead
>>530881919That's your own problem for being friends with pedos and trannies, what are you doing using any server that isn't just you and your pals?
I dont want to play and I dont want to jack off, I'm withering away bros... go on with out me
Drifter will:
>Have some sort of means to reload his 2 round shotgun without suffering a reload timer or even rounds reload like Abrams
>Have some sort of mobility skill, I'm hoping a teleport like Vampirebat but faster and ground-locked, like Shiv dash but dialed up and not causing damage but giving him some sort of temporary buff after using it (and if it is a teleport, serving as an ability dodge)
>have a transformation ult, I'm just not sure how to do it without it just being Yamato ult 2.0
>>530890484>Have some sort of means to reload his 2 round shotgun without suffering a reload timer or even rounds reload like Abramsthey can just make him reload fast
>>5308904840/3 are correct btw
What are you even suppposed to do if one of your lanes starts losing their walker before 5 minutes? Do you just abandon your tower and try to help? It basically would mean you give up a tower for free. It feels like an unwinnable game when that happens
>>530890484he has a motorcycle and drifts everywhere instead of walking
they call him the drifter because he feeds the lane, throws walker, and then disconnects early
>deadlock should have more shooter elements!!!11
while the farming can be boring at times, you really, REALLY don't want shooter mechanics to reign. CounterStrike has had a perpetual cheater problem for the entirety of its existence, making pub play nigh impossible, because the average shooter fan cannot imagine losing due to a lack of skill. He HAS to use aimbots and wall X-ray vision. Do you really want Deadlock to have those players?
I think having 6 second stun magic burst spells will seem heavenly after some of you play CounterStrike for a week straight
>ritualist
>get commends for doing great or mid
>make a build that skyrockets me to archon and oracle games
>fucking top on everything post game after a win
>0 commends
why is it like that
>>530898934>play a hundred ranked games>uninstall>check back on my match data a year later with a VAC url reader addon >1/3 players banned for cheating in the past year>wind up getting pulled into playing again with some friends>climb to supreme>literally at least 2-3 cheaters in every 2nd game>even load up replays to confirm and I'm right every time>uninstall>come back for CS2 which is apparently better>It's not
>>530898934there's a middle ground between dota and cs, it's called slow projectile weapons
but shitfrog will never do that because muh denies please won't anyone think of the denies
>>530900489fuck denies
I refuse to believe anyone likes the deny mechanic, its easily the worst thing in the game. Worse than last hitting
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>heard this ingame but somehow only the last part
>thought viscous was making a steins gate reference which would fit perfectly
well now I'm disappointed
>>530900489we already have slow projectile weapons, you can still aimbot with slow projectile weapons
>>530900596doesn't help they're completely inconsistent too
>shoot enemy orb as it comes up>enemy shoots their orb like straight up close to a second later>they get the confirm>shoot my own orb as it comes up>instantly denied somehowand this is standing right next to it so projectile speed isn't even a factor
>>530902809i mean tf2 rocket launcher/grenade launcher tier slow projectile weapon not lelvin's gun
starting up deadlock before bed is always a mistake
>try 1 game on shiv
>just stop taking damage and randomly chunk everyone for half their hp after my rage bar is full
>gun rapes people from a distance even though it's a shotty
>press 4 even when i think they aren't below the threshold and they just seemingly always are and get constant chainkill
is there a reason people downplay this hero lol?
>Queue into a game
>One of my lanes is Paradox and Dynamo
>Dynamo pauses and asks to swap lanes
>Don't want to swap because i like my lane, nobody else swaps with him
>Both him and Paradox die like two minutes in
>He yells in the mic that the lane is unwinnable because its two supports
>Abandons the game
very strange
>>530906857Why do people think paradox is a support when she has no ally targeted abilities and usually just goes for the braindead big damage carbine build?
must be something wrong with the servers, I'm in asia and sometimes it reroutes me through vienna.
>>530909576why are you in asia?
>>530898934We already have russians with aimbots and wall x-ray vision. Nobody's asking for the game to become valorant. They just want the bullshit point and click CCs and nukes to be turned down a little.
>>530890484>transformation ultnever fucking ever happening even if it'd be ultrakino
too much work for nuvalve bro. they tried with shiv and it clearly didn't work for them
>>530910806viscous has a transformation ult
>>530875613No he's black, even back in Neon Prime
>>530910919when you say "transformation ult" i figure an actual install ult that switches the kit around for something else or boosts it to high hell rather than locking you out of it like viscous' until lvl3 where you can just spam it
if we're calling that a transformation ult you might as well call kelvin's icepath one too
>>530911404nigga if your transformation mechanic is only as deep as a form of movement that does not CHANGE the rest of your kit in an unique way at all then it's not a fucking install
>>530911297>>530911839>installwhat is this zoomer speak
>me when i get multiple commends after a game
>>530911297doesn't Yamato have that?
>>530912082it's fighting game terminology for an install super (one that transforms you into a different/more powerful character)
>>530912547now that you mention it yeah
doesn't really feel like it most of the time though but you're right. i still don't believe they'll ever do the kit changer version of an install though. wayy too much work for nuvalve
>>530912716they just did some stance character for dota that does that
>>530913318kez is more complex than fucking invoker and you want them to port him to the game that's having trouble with fucking qop and wk?
>>530913445i was replying to the guy whining that nuvalve doesn't do anime crap kits
GOOD RELIABLE SOURCE TOLD ME PATCH IS THURSDAY OR NEXT TUESDAY!!
TRUST THE PLAN
>>530915649no, this is me
>spirit heavy team
>wipe enemy twice, break into base drop patron
>can't finish so back off
>enemy team is gun heavy
>wins ONE teamfight after we fuck up
>breaks into base, shreds shrines and patron, shreds weakened patron before we can even get out of spawn
fuck this. I just want to have fun playing characters who feel different from one another instead of just shotgun/machinegun press m1 but you are literally throwing if you do this. Why even have abilities and cool items in this game when just stacking gun damage + fire rate is better every single time? Absolutely retarded design. No wonder everyone is leaving
What are some other uphill battle sissyphean characters in the roster? Pocket feels like an easy 1st to get out of the way.
>>530918236Pocket is really good with this patch though
Remove nigfernus from the fucking game holy shit
i was under the impression lash was one of the harder heroes to play in the game but he's probably the easiest spirit nuker at least among the ones i already play like pocket, talon, calico
>>530920446please describe in detail how he raped your team
Do you build infernus into narutorun T3 or early ricochet?
just got mcd breakfast. now its time to game
>>530928071who are you talking to
What made infernus so strong anyway? He was one of the most honest characters before shop rework, although obviously a bit annoying but thats just DoTs in general
One more week until the big patch, mark my words
>>530928142Don't bother, most of these people are inept when trying to communicate with others
>>530930559Vague posting through your life is pretty sad
>>530928475keep it up, you'll be right eventually
Is Deathy good for this game's future?
Do you think sending Yoshi nudes would get us the game release faster or slower
>>530906429>is there a reason people downplay this hero lol?like anything people want to continue abusing it and honestly think they're not talking to people that get raped by it daily
experimental branch testing is happening this weekend but my buddy won't leak anything
>they still didn't revert the fleetfoot nerf on ivy even though she was B tier at best
not playing your game yoshi
He's still here (I knew this cuz I see him in my games)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIbqSkqtFic&t=14s
>>530942481pretty good movement
stacking both of the dash-jump items on hybrid heroes is fun as fuck
Valve needs to add cuter heroes inspired by anime to this game.
>>530942481Buy an ad.
>>530944730Good news anon they're turning viscous into totoro just for you.
>>530944730I'm watching yet another video, here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLwVMFC-nhQ
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melee items due for a nerf, base stats are too good, stack them on any hero and youre a beast at 15m
>>530942481I respect that he's just a movement freak. He also had a good point about build diversity. The cope is that Valve at this point don't give a fuck about such things as they're just trying to pump out content and refine the aesthetics.
>>530946771>they're just trying to pump out content and refine the aestheticsso far they've tweaked balance 100 times for every new content they've added
>>530906429>is there a reason people downplay this hero lol?not everyone has the brains to aim properly or manage his rage bar/bleeding. easy as it may be, there are ranklets as far as the eye can see
>>530928196>What made infernus so strong anyway?new shop makes it so if you don't want to, you don't have to build gun. lot of Infernus builds just start, and usually continue, with just being super tanky and his damage output is able to keep up with it. that and the above point I made to the other guy + the fact that a lot of ranklets seem incapable of counter building (debuff remover)
I'm really tired of playing spirit builds and doing 0 dps to objectives and midbaus
>winning streak?
>lets fix that
>>530949265if only there were some cheap item that increased your effective damage against objectives that could also be upgraded to improve your econ
>10 wins in a row as Lightning Scroll/Escalating Exposure Seven in Ritualist
>just build for spirit and W+M1 walkers and anyone in my path
>Infuser into ult when it gets spooky
How long can I get away with this? Till Oracle?
open beta tomorrow and no hype? wtf i thought we were believers
>>530957102I check into this thread once every 2 hours and have been doing so for months, do not do me like this man
>>530956727People in Oracle build knockdowns so yeah
>Go away
>Cuddle with cat
>Go drinking
>Come back
>not even a dozen posts
grim. thanks for the cool patch yoshi please keep nerfing a C tier character while your nigger DEI lineup reigns supreme.
Can somebody invite me to the build?
83450220
>pocket on team seems to have a hateboner for me
>has fewer kills/ assists, more deaths, and less objective damage than me
>>530968091There was also a point in the match where they have rejuv and there's a couple of enemies pushing one lane I'm in (around walker area, no walker) and pocket wants me to join him in fighting them. I refuse and barely make it back to base while one of them chases me.
I just wish this game had a nice comms mode where only nice people could chat
>>530958958both nigger women have been nerfed and are shit tier now, all that is left is infernus and his 1.2k afterburn damage with 20 gun hits
>>530949423id fucking seethe so hard man
>>530967561Shut the fuck up racist
>>530976997He might be racist but you are rude!!
>>530946416Play gun instead, look at people self-stunningt hemseves while parrying, shoot them in the face and laugh
>>530967561Nice
>>530968091Pocket players are seriously mentally unstable in my experience. Figures
>>530949423Of course, its the afk farming OW tourists, I'm surprised one of them isnt Seven
if this game is to do well it needs to be able to run on neets toasters
>>530782557 (OP)Sex With Vindicta
>>530982375i want to fuck cute female anon neets shitting hole
the "add coach to deadlock" thread is dead. deadlock is forsaken.
>>530983920its not 2011 anymore. coach, shrek, and the heavy arent the pinnacle of humor.
>>530949423These KDAs should legitimately be a bannable offense or at least give you a timeout on the game.
>>530825846this just unlocked a memory
got in a game with bananas only and he just ran it down all game and finished like 3/12 and got mad, run it down syndrome
>>530987946why remind me that paki fuck
>>530949423were they just constantly pushing a single lane while everyone else played defence to make up for effectively being 6v4?
>>530988724nta but vindicta seems unlikable as all hell, personality-wise. Now Ivy on the other hand...
>>530989172come now anon, imagined sex with a blue-skin smug / disinterested girl has been a loved fap by all since ow launched
>>530989172Furries are strange (in a bad way)
>>530990142Ivy isn't even furry
>>530989678She's ugly and needs a remodel or a least a facelift
>>530990435Semantics really, everyone who is attracted to non-human animal things is a furry, there's no need for further elaboration
>>530991693if anything I think she's way too cute and it doesn't fit her personality or backstory
>>530992269>>530991693good news for both of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjK1HXe46E
anyone else think theyre kinda...
rescue beam feels like a troll item now it's so bad
>>530993557I thought pocket was supposed to be a girl in disguise
>>530993821being able to tardwrangle some retard out of a sure death will always be op, even if the healing is shit
>>530994003>guy who has only seen Mulan
>>530991693If they changed her completely, you'd complain like what happened with Ivy or Yamato
>>530992704Oh hey! She looks a bit more spookier now, that looks even better
>>530992704She looks like a bitter femcel now and that's sovl
>>530989678sex with a desinterested girl is fucking dogshit though
you can really tell when someone just isn't kissing you back
>>530992704Tone down the neon glow and it would be great
>>530993557One guy with a cursed artifact giving advice to another guy with a cursed artifact.
>>530994003Ok fetishposter
>>530994881>If they changed her completely, you'd complain like what happened with Ivy or YamatoYou don't know me, I'd rather have an undead who is actually undead-looking and not an OW sniper girl clone. Currently she talks way too much shit for being just a blue girl with no shoes
>>530996220How would you redesign a ghost sniper then
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>>530997130Option one: actual ghost features. So translucency, undead forms, clothing could stay normal so she doesn't end up and half-visible hard to see silhoutte
>>530997130Option 2: literally just this, but wth a long braid and a sniper rifle
>>530994098it's not the healing, it's the massive cd and shortened range
For as long as I've played this game I sure suck at it
>>530997756too much soul, valve would be too scared to do this unless it's an evil character you're not supposed to like in the first place. And also they would lose about 80% of 4chan players
>>530997397>>530997756You know what that's fair, honestly though I'd probably make her a bit more phantom esc, made her a bit more transparent and give her more ghost like abilities rather than just having her be a sniper, but I can't hate what we got.
They definitely could benefit by making her a bit more spooky than she is though.
>>530998545Vind is a revenge-driven revenant already and multiple heroes question her murderous methods, she isn't in a good guy camp as is
>they would lose about 80% of 4chan playersOh shit, all 6 people on here which actually play the game? How would they ever recover.
Btw picrel is another worthy option, part undead, part normal, to maintain the appeal while still showcase her being gnarly and inhuman
>>530998425Game's not worth playing only when you stop having fun in it
>>530999603>I'd probably make her a bit more phantom esc, made her a bit more transparent and give her more ghost like abilitiesThis would be a great design since all undeads we have don't look too undead atm. But we have a ghost figure already, Haze, tho she also needs a serious visual improvement to look like a smokey creature rather than a black hoe in adidas
all the barriers scale except guardian ward, what is this rip off
I feel like this is gonna be another patch where people whine about the usual heroes like Haze and Wraith while tanktards reign supreme. I wonder why it is no matter what the actual meta is, people relentlessly seethe about M1 heroes, is it because some people came from actual MOBAs and are aimlets?
>>531000894you are just making up a headcanon to get angry at and feel smarter, people have been bitching about shiv, abrams and calico a lot
>>530999646>Oh shit, all 6 people on here which actually play the game? How would they ever recover.bother that's like a 30% hit to the playerbase right now we literally cannot afford to lose them
me irl
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>Play support dynamo
>Absolutely fellate the living hell out of the infernus and shiv on our team that are doing well
>Rescue beam, guardian ward, heroic aura, warp stone ulting key targets
>Get called a chad multiple times by my team
>Win game
I have become the most bottom healer bitch ever known to man, and it is 100% the most fun way to play this game rn. Just tunnel your carries into fights, spoon feed them heals and shields, and watch as the wins roll in.
>>530995492how do you know? prostitute?
>>531002214yeah
easiest way to realize casual sex with zero connection to the other person is pretty bad too
>>530999812Haze is more like a shadow creature which is cool but she's more akin to the Shadow People concept rather than a straight up ghost or ghoul, with how many apparitions are around it's kind of surprising how uniquely different Vindicta is to the rest of them
>kelvin
>first 6k item
>curse
y/n/?
>>531003916haze is more like a smoky "man in black" than a shadow person.
I'm not a meta abuser but everyone feels so weak right now, nobody really feels fun to play. I build full gun on McGinnis and I shoot at a bebop with no additional bullet resist and it takes a million shots to kill him, everything just feels like a wet fart
>>530997756Looks like shit.
>>531005227that's why you don't build gun, and also never 1v1
you buy burst and constantly 1v3 people so they die instantly, if they don't then there will be enough time for the entire enemy team to appear because the TTK is so long and you'll get fucked
>>531005227this is the end result of trying to merge a moba and a shooter into the same game
either gun is so powerful spirit doesn't matter or it feels like fucking dogshit to use
>>531005227Bebop is just obnoxiously tanky for no reason, we're back in a green meta as well
>>531008798do you just hang around these threads to whine about how gun scales?
>listen to bebop jazz
>it just sounds like some retards playing for the first time
I don't get it
>listening to hero duo voicelines
>geist shit talks homer
aw hell nah, valve writers better not be dissin my boy homer
>Infernus builds exactly zero spirit items
>Has the highest spirit damage just from afterburn alone
>Fucking mulches tanks and supports
>Has a free get out of jail free card with his dash
>Chase him and you die
>Don't chase him and he gets away scot free
Make it make sense valve.
>>531014805>dash acts as both a get out of jail free and an unpunishable rush in option to chase you, with extra damage to boot>"Hurr, just buy debuff remover">against a character with so much rapid fire that he reprocs all his DoT instantly once again
>>531015027>>531014805He got nerfed, retards. Your fellow poop rankers have moved on to complain about turret McGinnis.
>>531015138>X is strong now so Y isn't a problem anymorePeople like you deserve to have their femurs snapped
>>531015138>He got nerfed, retards.About as much as Mirage got nerfed
>Just remove his ability to proc mark at long range and completely ignore the fact that if he's right in your face he bursts you down with huge gun damage with bonus spirit damage for free, just like infernus gets
>>531015378he got a 30% reduction in afterburn damage, that's not negligible
>>531015461and how does that effect everything else we've talked about?
>>530928196don't trust that retard, nigfernus was strong because of the boon update making it that he doesn't need to build spirit to deal damage with Afterburn. Infernus just had to build gun.
>>531009901this might surprise you but there's more than two people in these threads
this is the first time i'm actively complaning about gun. i usually just butch about how dogshit boring midboss and jungle is and how lacking the hero kits themselves are
>>531017432right, jungle should be like a minigame and then the midboss a turn based rpg battle
>bro we need more minigame sloppas
No thank you, reddit.
>>530950059tried it and this is an ok stop gap but it's still nothing compared to a dedicated fire rate whore like haze/vyper. being able to shove the wave and do boxes is good value early and cult sac to farm the 3-2-1 camps is nice
raven and slork have their new VOs, or am I late on this?
>>531025550they've had voice acting for as long as vyper has
>>531025995that's what I get for not paying attention to hero labs
>>531026064no reason to pay attention to hero labs, killed off in favor of a second playtest for selected players who give good feedback
>>531025550There's been some new stuff with Oracle talking to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfhJj0cBAJU
why does this game feel like a social experiment where the developers are testing how long people will stick around chasing the dragon of a reasonably good game that happens 1/50 times while getting fucked in the ass repeatedly for the other 49?
dota was like this years ago. do i just need to be a masochist to enjoy this slop?
>>531028349every online competitive game is like this
>>531028349>dota was like this years ago.>wasit's still exactly like that
>>531028349deadlock follows the usual dota formula: do not expect good games on the weekends (starting friday night) or on holidays.
I feel like people shitting their pants over the balance are just being stuck with bad teammates in solo Q
I cant stop playing and idc what the "health" is so long as I can q matches I am like a crack addict
>"We made changes to reduce the amount of snowballing"
No you fucking didn't. Deadlock devs are fucking hacks, holy shit.
i wish there were was prompt for corner boosts. i do them pretty often, just not intentionally. and it sucks that melee cancelling shmoovement was basically removed. i enjoyed having the option available to me even if i didnt use it much
>>531028685>le it's just bad over weekends maymayi'll never understand the people that believe this. you'll get paired with retards and forced into 50/50 no matter the day or hour.
>>531028812what amount of balancing can they do to stop your lane mate from immediately going for heavy melee spam and getting parry punished every time?
>>531028893buffing cube cooldown
>>531028349https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yBHDvKUw
is there anything more pathetic than trying to flex being eternus in deadlock
hey, man. congrats, you're at the top of a game that's not even feature complete, is still in invite only.
>>530785797wrong
/lolg/ is worse. that entire general is unironically just avatarfagging and ERP
>>530787123>>530844501you retarded trannies will do every single bit of coping in the world to justify playing a black woman.
balance has gotten so atrocious I can tell which team is going to win before the game even starts. if the game keeps going in this direction (and I see no reason to believe it will change) I do not think it will survive another year. I honestly think the devs do not care anymore and are putting in the bare minimum until someone higher up at valve pulls the plug on the project.
>>530866431>rabidly seething after getting an answer to a question because other people having friends makes you violently upsetwhat an epically cool lone wolf! you're NOT a friendless loser!
Valve should add heroes with this kind of body type to the game.
>>531030612>balance has gotten so atrocious I can tell which team is going to win before the game even startsNo you can't lol
>>531028893I don't think that's what's happening here
Also once an Abrams gets properly stacked up, you can parry him 6 times and still never get anywhere with his HP bar
>>531031465its not even hard. or are we going to pretend like some heroes aren't objectively better than most others
>wuh abwams op???
do you retarded faggots never buy anti heal
one spirit burn and abrams ceases to exist.
get a capacitor and turn off his 1.
God, you guys are shitters.
>>531032347>Downplaying one of the heroes that's benefiting most from the recent patchYeah yeah, let me guess, Mcginnis is weak too?
>DOOD YOU DONT BUY COUNTER ITEMS There are soft counters and hard counters why do you retards pretend counteritems are all the same and every hero is countered as hard? Disingenuous subhumans, probably all meta abusing so you downplay whatever hero you're getting boosted on.
>>531031328What if Boho has this
>>531032278>still isn't naming the heroesafraid of being outed as a poo ranker lmao
>>531033584Seems more like a bookworm bodytype to me.
Wow Wraith is hot dogshit now I'm even better off playing Haze
>>531036335>>531040847>Jersey accent alchemist with love handlesYeah I'm thinking it's peak
>barely any chinese players are actually in deadlock currently
>leaker say valve is preparing a ton for a big asia launch which is why skulls are getting cut
>and why character models are getting less western-ish
Its over
>>531036335>>531040847we literally only have a picture of her face and she looks like the kind of chick that would use a victorian dress what the fuck are you people talking about
>>531041329can't WAIT for the inmmediate shittification of the artstyle with dozens of poorly made chinese mythology inspired cosmetics!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE PARTICLE VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>531041447>>531041329i already expected this when mcginnis got cleaned up and why pocket looks like a kpoop cuck and viscous is a goofy goo tourist and ivy became cuter
then we got thighigh vampbat, angsty pretty boy frank, boho, bookworm, etc.
i FULLY expect a Chinese hero that's from the Triad
>>531041574Frank looks great fuck you
>>531041345It's called Speculation, don't knock it
>>531041673Frank looks like a fucking sadboy fabio
>>531041574relax, kino is still on the menu
>>531041329>Entire playerbase asks for hot characters>they listen to the playerbase>THEY ARE APPEALING TO CHINKS!!!retard
>>531031328Get the fuck away from my game, the last thing I need in DL are disgusting fat bitches
>Having ugly heroes is...LE GOOD
Valvedrones are demented
>>531043069>>Having ugly heroes is...LE GOODthis but unironically
not everything needs to be porn
Dota devs already got their barabait.
Fuck off you fags.
Give us qts.
Its kind of amazing that the valve name alone has managed to keep this at above 13,000 players
I think if this game was made by any other company it would be at zero players
>>531041710don't you have some hl3 next week videos to make, mcvicker?
>>531043440a thousand times radder than current vindicta and it actually looks like a vengance ghost of someone who was burnt at the stake but they would need to swap her VA cause it wouldn't fit at all
>>531043604>moba macro game without controlling like an RTS>movement that even the biggest detractors of the game agree is great>unique art style that isn't just trying to be hyper realistic or fortnite>every culturally relevant pvp game has been around for a decade (or is an entry in a series that's been around even longer) and has grown staleis it really that surprising? or are you just being disingenuous
>>531044064not him but
>>moba macro game without controlling like an RTSnot a good thing for dotards and leegfags alike as you can see by the vast mayority of players being fucking overwatch players
>>unique art style that isn't just trying to be hyper realistic or fortniteyou fucking know it's going the fortnite route don't even try to pretend otherwise. the only reason it hasn't yet is because valve is slow as shit when it comes to updating the game, you could genuinely just place the models of the characters that are already finished like dynamo and mcg into a fornite match and they'd fit better than some of the fucking actual crossover skins they currently have there.
>>every culturally relevant pvp game has been around for a decade (or is an entry in a series that's been around even longer) and has grown stalenigga i don't play competitive pvp shit anymore and even i know this just isn't true for the people still playing them, but even then there's still new competitive pvp games being made and being pretty popular every fucking year. valorant is just 5 years old last month
it 110% is just valve's name carrying this whole thing atm. the entire fucking reason there's still a competitive scene in the first place is just because they're desesperately hoping to be on the ground floor of the new international. same with most of the twitch streamers, they're just hoping it blows up. it is entirely a fucking grift.
>>531044479There's literally no overwatchfags playing this game anymore it's all leaguedrones and dotards. Overwatch players all went to rivals
>>531043440Looks neat, thanks for posting
>>531043762Noone was burned at Salem, but yeah
>>531044479>not a good thing for dotards and leegfagsthis is a nonstarter. if someone were to make a top down or 3d metroidvania, that wouldn't appeal to many purists who think they should all be side scrollers, but that wouldn't make it a bad game nor does it mean it wouldn't appeal to anyone
>you fucking know it's going the fortnite route don't even try to pretend otherwisei refuse to engage in your pessimism and doomer posting. simple as.
>valorant is just 5 years old last monththe fact that the most recent example you can think of is half a decade old just proves my point, especially when it's just a rip off of csgo
>>531043224Wanting good looking characters has nothing to do with porn, valvedrones really are deranged huh?
>>531045527>my desire to have characters i want to jerk off to has nothing to do with me wanting to jerk off to themcurious
>>531041329This explains why they got rid of the soulful Cheat Death icon I guess
>>531045634Yet again you're the only one bringing up porn and masturbation, are you a porn addict by any chance?
Surprised this hasn't been cancelled yet. They dont seem to be doing anything to overhaul the game they're just carefully carving away at a pile of poop to make a big poop statue
I like the game and the concept I am just hoping an actual competent dev makes a copycat and I don't have to be at the mercy of nu valve and their army of dickriders
>>531046175And here we have the rage baiter anon, going from thread to thread, general to general, trying desperately to shit on games people enjoy, yet he will find no joy or meaning forevermore.
Though he shits and farts lazy comments from his rear end, trying to implore that the devs hard at should give up on a project that's been in the oven for years, to which they reply, nevermore.
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>>531047762I was hopeful for the game until their ideas of changes involved moving the big laser monster guys back like 5 feet instead of reworking laning and adding melee heroes. A moba-like without varied heroes is really really bad. Requiring everyone to have top tier mechanical skill in not only laning but teamfights is just a failure of a model. Then on top of having to aim you require people to have good macro sense on where to farm, where to push, when to teamfight and helping your teammates. Their idea of a mid game objective is picking up an urn without being able to use your weapon instead of copying stuff from Heroes of the Storm. There's only one map instead of multiple terrains. The game just fundamentally does not make sense. The devs must just be happy to get an easy project to take salary from and not care if it's actually good in the end or not
Is public builds section abandoned?
Top daily for some heroes is just irredeemable garbage.
>>531048056>this game hates buttonmashing monkeys so it's bad
Did Valve just get better at preventing leaks or is there genuinely just no content to leak anymore because the development stalled too hard
>>531050698when the item update leaked, it was using placeholder art still
they only update the other client with gameplay changes, and character models we've seen are just what they forgot to scrub from the files
>they dont know about the yellow lane coast line rework
>>531051141Idk, most of the art did look like that when the update dropped, it just got changed over time. Either way I do hope you're right tho
>>531043440i thought vindicta was hanged
>>531031328this is literally dynamo
>>530995862>Tone down the neon glowno
i love playing wraith and haze because it makes me feel so valid as a transgirl <3
>>531061593omg literally same xister!!!
whatre the chances we can get a classic dlg inhouse again
this patch is fucking shit why would anyone want to inhouse this patch is literally going to kill the game 100%
reply to this post if you would inhouse with the retard gang from here again.
For the love of god please reinstate the russian server am tired of hearing orcish tongue in my EU serv
I am so glad I am American and at worst i'll maybe encounter a singular spanish speaker in 100 games instead of being a euro and dealing with games filled with R*ssian subhumans.
>>531071514apparently austrilians have to deal with chikns
>>531041329BASED China about to save this game from artifact-tier player counts.
>>531072306why? don't the Chinese usually get their own servers due to how dense their population is?
>>531043440Looks like slop.
>>531042773>>Entire playerbase asks for hot charactersbarely anyone was asking for this, you brain rotted porn addicted freak.
people are asking for game fixes and content than "I NEED MORE GOONER BAIT FOR MY MELTED SHIT BRAIN!!!!"
>>531072919Nobody was asking for ugly DEI slop, valvedrone.
>>531072919I think the word to use is
>appealingAs this guy says
>>531073184, DEI slop is usually bland and unappealing. Poor character design that doesn't draw you towards the character. I want to feel something towards the character I'm playing as.
Valve scrapped Neon Prime because it was full on deislop. If they smell chinkmoney they're gonna pivot even more.
>>531001949I tried, got some fun but my dear fucking mates hardfed an haze
anyone who uses the word "DEI" unironically isn't worth listening to because their minds are poisoned and they literally cannot think rationally. it either has to be a white man or a very hot white woman with no clothes and literally anything else is "woke" to these retards.
>>531074062Sorry bro but you're a retard. NP looked THAT bad. Barely above Concord.
>>531074062most of these cunts defend the likes of stellar blade. on the other hand you also got troons like
>>531072330 so it's two kind of retards feeding each other
>>531072306isn't the bane of the australian the indonesian?
>liking cute heroes = troon
Valvedrone logic, everyone.
>>531074415League of Chink is infested with your kind, you pretend having any standard while letting vanguard run in your pc
>>531073371>I want to feel something towards the character I'm playing as.>"I need to have a boner thinking about jacking off to the character i'm playing later, you don't understand! it's very important to gameplay!"what the fuck is wrong with these people
>>531074415avatarfagging as a girl is what's sus
as someone with 7k hours in dota 2, deadlock already does a better job with appealing hero design
the only real stinker is grey talon but his voicelines are cool enough to enjoy playing him
>>531075056we get it, you don't like her because she's a black woman.
now make up whatever retarded cope you have to pretend that that's not the reason.
anyone who says neon prime looked good is legit blind
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>>531074970hoodwink mogs every deadlock design.
>>531075383Your bnuuy hero, sir
>>531075431hoodstink was the only hero release I was upset with until kez
the pinnacle of dreamworks slop nu-heroes that people complain about, abilities and color scheme were just a different flavor of windrunner and appeals to furfags who defend her to this day
>>531075196Wrong.
I like Wraith especially her cooler redesign. Calico just looks like shit. Ugly ass forehead.
>>531075196Sheboons are uninteresting designs, period.
Has anyone ever had their game crash while trying to make a build? (moving around the UI elements etc)?
Went hundreds of hours with no issues, then the day I decide to try exclusive fullscreen with reflex disabled, this shit happens...
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need grappler female character with huge tits
>>531081239Only if she's also a futa
>The year is 2029
>Deadlock dropped
>And yet, nobody but 10 autists are playing it actively anymore, everyone else has moved on
>2 of those 10 players make 15 different video essays on the game that everyone watches, and Valve is praised for their genius while already starting to neglect Deadlock while working on their next title
>>531075431hoodwink is shit
>>531075531they better makr a cute jackalope girl with a bhop ability
>vampire
>witch
>sandman
>frankenstein
>creature from the black lagoon
>the blob
>werewolf
next hero is a mummy
>>531082197Absolutely based
>>531082197Make her horse as well and it's a deal
Cute and funny character in Deadlock when
>>531044870Youre mentally ill.
>>531074062You're just as bad by pretending it's ALL horny retards rather than people tired of seeing intentionally ugly/bland designs
>>531075138i like her, she looks like she's from samurai jack
>>531074221malegeist and wraith look cool
>>531083401We need an Indiana Jones whiptard as well.
Or maybe a Lara Croft dual pistols?
>if you say the game isn't absolutely perfect in EVERY WAY you are LOW RANK!!!!! mentioning that the game is hemorrhaging players means you are BAD AT THE GAME!!!! NOTHING IS WRONG EVERYTHING IS GOING PERFECTLY THE GAME IS A SUCCESS
honestly I thought valvedrone was just an insult for people who like valve games. I now see they weren't kidding about this slavish mentality
>>531090645No one calls this game perfect you schizo
>>531090645I used to play SMNC, this is doing pretty well for a dying game.
Lady Geist x Blacked collab soon
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>>531090645>hemorrhaging playersum, its been pretty consistent for the past 6 months
>>531091145Jan and May were the lane and item updates right?
I just want new fucking heroes and maybe a new game mode
>>531091013Whenever I or others criticize this game, people who are likely in this thread right now say that the game is fine and sometimes say it could even be shipped as is with no changes.
>>531091145oh we're just ignoring the 90% drop off of players then right sorry forgot I had to do that to talk to the people here everything is fine trust the plan. update in 2 weeks as usual but for real this time trust me
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>>531091145I still like it but due to lowish player count you either get people who dont really know how to play or the sweatiest match in your life.
>>531092578>and sometimes say it could even be shipped as is with no changes.Genuinely no one believes this are you insane
Most people here would even say that valve should have never gone public with it
>>531091490new gamemodes should probably be reserved until the player count climbs a little more, because currently they'd just divide they playerbase or be dead
new heroes should be the priority thoughever
>>531092578well when you say hemorrhaging, that implies that it's currently happening. if you're just referring to the drop at the start, why not just say that?
>>531070775took a 3 hr nap and youre the only one. inhouses from here are dead 4ever, F
>>531092818>Genuinely no one believes this are you insanelurk more
>Most people here would even say that valve should have never gone public with itI say this
>>531093195I did not know that the term hemorrhaging used in this context strictly applies to a 6 month time period and not, say <12 months. Lost 90% of players in 3~ months but that's not relevant because it wasn't in the past 6 months so everything is fine update in 2 weeks my dad works at valve
>>531093649>be me>get cut>start bleeding>time passes>cut has healed>scabbed over>still say im bleeding>get mad when someone says "looks healed to me">actually be (you)
where do you guys get this notion that the player base dropped off, it used to be way lower before the map/shop rework it's objectively higher today with 1,109 live matches at 3pm on a sunday whereas months ago it'd be 300-500 AT MOST.
>>531090645Trvthnvke that buckbroke the valve drones.
>>531094370retarded analogy but really what should I have expected. barely retaining a tenth of the player base is healing? I want whatever you are smoking
>>531090645GIGA BRUTAL TRVKE OWNING THE VALVE SISSIES!!!!
>>531095757so you're just esl?
>hero name is mirage
>Not a single ability related to creating illusions
>Sand motif
>Creates whirlwinds and teleports
>Djinn
>No wishes
Remove mirage
>>531095932he turns into sand before he turns into a nado if you watch close
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>>531074415>liking cute heroes = troonThis but unironically
>>531085837Is this the key to get players to return in droves?
>>531095893initially I wrote a response explaining my point to you but I realized you don't even understand your own analogy let alone my reply. I can't teach retards anon I'm sorry you are just going to have to stay confused
>>531097139>i have a response that would totally win me the argument i just dont want to use it because...?
>>531085837Campo Santo would never allow it.
Ok everyone shut the fuck up about the obvious animeshit bait, here's a real damn question: are deadlock forums even active anymore?I know devs can be seen there from time to time, but there were absolutely no replies and reactions in the last few months.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIbqSkqtFic
>he likes deadcock's movement even mpre than titanfalls
Wew
>>531098421I want to have sex with boho
>>531098940Cool that he's still playing. Most of the bigger names that made anything Deadlock related dropped it after a couple of weeks.
>>531093334I don't get why people don't wanna do them, seems like an obvious staple of a general like this, in a game so small in players. I had fun when we did them way back.
>>531102296We probably barely manage a dozen posters at any given time so you'd need 100% participation to fill up a lobby. And I didn't like playing them because half of the people that joined were total ass and would just feed someone that would steamroll
>>530898934There's more to a shooter than aiming. If anything, making the ttk way longer than it used to be has made the game more aim intensive. There's less evasion, less positioning, less movement, less flanking, all of it is now just CC some schmuck and beam them down. This game is now all stat checking and no deathmatching, it sucks.
>>531095893you're just gonna pretend like you're stuck with the same amount of blood after you're done hemorrhaging then?
>>531098421Depends on the subforum. They pay closer attention to experimental, but they do still look at public from time to time. The map devs are the most responsive to feedback.
On a date, she's a bit odd
I finally won after a mass loss streak and all it took was playing as the most obnoxious Sinclair ever, double rabbit, Silence wave, Curse, Vortex Web. Maybe next time I should try Disarming on top of it
ummmm open beta sisters wasn't today supposed to be the day
>>531105386Its sunday nigga
>>531105386Why do you keep parroting this shit? There is no open beta in sight, there are no leaks and never have been
>>531102296they were fun despite what
>>531102706 mentioned, but to go from a dozen willing players to 2 is pretty sad
>>531098940Funke made a vid which got almost a mil views but did nothing to the playercount, no need to hype this one either. Idk what it takes to give the game a sizeable pops growth, but youtubers and streamers don't bring it any kind of lasting attention
>>531103604Except we get no news from the secret playtest, so whatever feedbak or even the logic behind their decisions remains to be seen. Wish we got at least some explanations as to why one or another change is made, imagine how much of our feedback goes to waste since it doesnt allign with devs' plans for this game or their design philosophy
>>531108245>"hi we'd like feedback on our motorcycles">"you should make bumper cars instead!!!!>WHY DIDN'T THEY CHANGE TO MAKE BUMPER CARS
>>531108445Did we ever get an elaboration on why the 4 to 3 lanes change happened? How many anons here and on discord or reddit or whatever are seething in vain about this because there's some part about MM or balancing which just doesnt work in 4 lanes, which why things are different now?
Sometimes I'm just really curious to know how or why such drastic pivot is implemented, and we will never fucking know
>>531108992I think most agree the game was better in a 4 lane configuration, but I think newer players being left in a solo lane couldnt deal
>>531108992>80% of solo lanes asked for a swap at the start>duo lanes could just send someone over and fuck the solo laner in the ass if they got an advantage>even with no interference, many heroes were just better solo than others
>>531108992i think a part of it was people with shitty computers lagging from all the additional trooper spawns along with what everyone else said
>>531109320No fuck no, I played only a little while before 3 lane change but people were crying and complaining literally every match like this guy said
>>531109437Being different doesn't equal being better, but the map is too cramped as of now and mid cathedral was pretty to look at
>>531111246Trooper pathing is still fucked, not as bad as like 3 months ago but not fixed yet
>>531102296Im very glad inhouses are dead, turns every general into namefagging and fill it with retards who think it's a Discord server
>>531108992>Did we ever get an elaboration on why the 4 to 3 lanes change happened?I feel like half this general was people complaining about doomed solo lane matchups and getting suddenly ganked by 3-4 people, now its all been memory holed and solo lanes were the best thing since sliced bread
>>531108992Ask anyone who isn't one of the casuals who only plays every now and then if they liked solo lanes and they are going to say no
>>531109437literally none of this is fixed by making lanes 2v2 only, the only difference is that now you're stuck with an INTing retard for 10 minutes with no choice but to stay there
>>531113585if you buy monster rounds you can still shove and gank with decent success
>>531113970yeah which is why you see people ganking all the time right lmfao get fucking real
if you wanted to have people not gank so much all you had to do was balance the soul economy like they did AFTER the solo lanes removal
>>531113932the 10 people valve hired from the firewatch game who apparently are able to control the entire company with their woke ideologies
>>531114168people are retarded but you can be different
>>531114703letting your guardian and even walker fall just to try and get a few picks from another lane simply isn't viable right now. you won't be able to go back and forth between them while sucessfully engaging, but even if you were the soul economy straight up makes this the worse option for you
>>531114897that doesnt happen tho
>>531113932The retards who made a walking simulator that gaben liked, so he allowed them to kill dota.
>>531107406the average retard still thinks it's hard to get in the build
It's frustrating that the lower ranks are pretty much either players who have good micro but terrible macro, or smurfs. Had a couple games just now:
>first game, take 2 towers with little resistance, we lose one with a teammate jungling right next to it
>second game is just determined by a single player (smurf)
>>531108992Game was a lot more stressful due to the micromanaging in 4 lanes, which hurt the new player experience. At a high level, solo lanes were "freeze the lane until you duos can gank," which wasn't a fun time. The map was nothing but long corridors because the lanes took up 80% of the space, which left little room for interesting design.
>>531116407> Be me, in pisslow> Players have terrible macro but good micro> Climb up to Oracle V, look inside> Players have good macro, but terrible microWhat the fuck, where are all the good players?
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>its my first time playing Holliday
>whats YOUR excuse?!
Nigger, you point the gun and pull the trigger on the enemy.
You displayed that kind of skill when you moved your mouse pointer on the Deadlock icon and double clicked it.
>People are still parroting "m-muh solo lane got ganked and nothing happened every time so that means it's bad"
Even if that was true, stalemate lanes STILL happen even with duos where you're just waiting for a gank, and NOW 100% of the time you are tethered to someone that could be a complete mouthbreathing retard, this is a shittier alternative no matter how you look at it.
>>531116762All the good players left to play other games. All that's left now is a few Overwatch rejects. I'm sure some will come back when the game releases.
>>531108992With three lanes i already spend most of almost every game having to play lane janny because people wont push waves, it was even more obnoxious with four
>>531116762Phantom and above, Oracle and Archon sometimes have good players because I think some people are genuinely hardstuck but the vast majority are just dogshit and severely lacking in one area. Emissary and below are complete memes, at least in my experience. Below Emissary is at least fun cause it's basically constant BROOLING but for some reason Emissary and to a lesser extent Archon has bad players that think they know what they're talking about so they commit to the most retarded gameplans and stubbornly never switch up what they're doing, true midwits.
>>531107406there's not going to be one singular moment that will completely undo the first impression normies had to the game
there were too many brainrotted zoomers who saw it as just another hero shooter, cynical millennials who saw it as just another moba, and bitter half life/tf2 fans that were mad valve 'chose to work on this instead of hl3/the heavy update' (as if valve is an indie company that can only work on one thing at a time)
>>531117378All the good OW players are Eternus though
>>531117951There are no good Overwatch players playing Deadlock regularly anymore. They almost all moved to Marvel Rivals when that trash released.
so is seven ever going to get a meaningful nerf or is he just going to stay broken because he's one of the devs pet heroes or some shit
The game was way more enjoyable when there wasn't a Mo and Seven in every game.
>>531115678Actually true there are still so many comments like "I wish I could try it out/get an invite"
>>531118335Rivals has been kind of falling off, both games have been at weird standstill for the past couple of months, I say this as someone who was playing Rivals from Season 0
>>531117374They didn't even try to nerf the gankslop heroes.
>>531121523>Rivals has been kind of falling off,X to doubt, OW is dead in the water for sure, but not marvelslop cmon
I've seen people saying it here a bunch of times, but the game seems to do just fine, why would it be falling off anyway?
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>>531117374trvke. the sad truth is that the removal of solo lanes did fuckall to fix the problems people had with them, and now those problems have been moved to duos because you're FORCED to play them.
Just make the laning phase pointless to fix this shit-OH WAIT it already is
>>531126502Laning is the most important it's ever been?
>>531126570and it's still fucking pointless
a lot of you guys underestimate just how useful it is to just scream at people, every single time I've bothered to just tell a shitter to stick in a lane and baby sit it while the adults handle the match they listen and end up silently farming themselves to just not exploding or roaming needlessly.
Yell at shitters. Be the shepherd your team needs.
>>531128786NO! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!! I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO MAKE CALLS IN A TEAM BASED GAME!! MY TEAMMATES SHOULD KNOW WHEN A MISPLAY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.... B-BECAUSE THEY JUST SHOULD OKAY?!!!!!!
>>531128786i am south american, most players are brazilians or peruvians, they are so arrogant that they would rather throw the game than listen to a teammate that is begging them not to feed haze on lane
>>531114228>>531115560Interesting, I'm surprised they haven't been doxxed yet considering how popular Valve is
>>531114334:(
>>531125292You'd be surprised, the thing is it kind of comes and goes in waves, people are always super excited for the next seasons and right now S3 is popping off a bit with some of the improvements made, but people typically wind down during the second half because as of right now at least and even more so in Season 2 and 1 there wasn't enough to go around with the content, we still only have like 1 Doom match (Death match) Map.
But on the plus side, it's doing a hell of a lot better than Overwatch has been for years at this point.
remember when this general was constantly rent free over rivals saying it was going to be DOA and would die harder than deadlock?
>>531133980Nobody expected valve to shit the bed this hard and make the game into a boring ass MOBA.
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>Rivals
Sexy women with big butts
Fun gameplay
10 minute long matches
Simple effective movement
>Deadlock
Ugly DEI women
Sweaty gameplay
hour long matches
Movement that you have to watch 5 hours of videos then 1000 hours of gameplay to understand
Rivals deserved the win.
>>531134261retardo tf2 tourist
the first thing people knew about this game was that it was icefrog's new baby
>>531134298from your description, i just take that rivals is for troglodytes and deadlock for thinking people
>>531134298Holy TRVKE. The mentally ill valve drones aren't gonna like this one.
>>531134298>Whines about DEI>Posts an Asian womans asslmao
I'm baking my first bread, hopefully it doesn't go to shit.
>>531135961em bro we still have 250 posts
>>531136118No an actual bread, with yeast and stuff
>>531134298God imagine if Yamato looked like this.
Instead...
>>531134298>Movement that you have to watch 5 hours of videos then 1000 hours of gameplay to understandMovement is not that hard, and the majority of high mmr players are complete trash at movement. I do agree that the guides the community makes are a waste of everyone's fucking time.
>>531128786nigga if i had to bother to get on mic and actively be a nuisance towards others just to stand a chance i'd rather fucking lose
>>5311089924 lanes had nonstop soul economy changes every other patch
>>531134298Rivals is flopping unfortunately
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>>531137073I mean they are planning to try her other concepts now
>>531137486these concepts are like literally a fucking year old by now
when exactly are they gonna stop planning and actually start doing again
>>531134607>Being such a Valvedrone you fedora tip in its defenseLmfao
>>531137706I mean she's probably being reworked and focus tested first if anything
>>531138327why would they rework their kit when they haven't given any indication that they even plan to do such a thing in the first place
>>531138939Not the kit retard, her appearance, the thing we just discussed
>>531139518then what the fuck are you even saying?
>these concepts are a year old by now when the fuck are they actually gonna do them?>well they'll probably want to do them first???????????
>>531134298you literally just described why deadlock is better in every way
and before you say anything yes that includes the lack of porn bait characters, because i don't want coomers in my game
>>531140438>because i don't want coomers in my gameyou fucking retard the ivyfags have been there from the start
>>531140594ivyfags dont play the game
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>build meme shit
>still bully the fuck out of dynamo in lane
>he rushes refresher and superior duration
>solo ults me twice with it with bebop
>manage to gtfo with 20hp
>has a vendetta against me the rest of the game
>win
>team angry at him for tunnel visioning me
AAAAAH HA HA HA GET FUCKED TRANNY DYNAMO PLAYERS!
>Non-ugly women = porn
Why are valve drones like this?
>>531141273Unironically because they're the coombrains. They can't think or see hot women without immediately jacking off.
Men from the rich and powerful to the working class have been using beautiful woman as a dressing since the dawn of time and they're not flipping out their dicks and whacking off in public.
Car companies put hot women around the car.
Sports use cheerleaders.
Advertisers put their products in the hands of attractive women.
Famous popular artists do paintings from nude to fully clothed.
It's the most natural thing ever yet retards have turned it into some insane political thing so all women must look like
>>531137073
>>531140717i play the game
i finally got an ivy build that works post patch
>>531108992100% solo lanes. I played a lot during the peak of the alpha (may 2024 -- October 2024) and when the game started getting to 20k+ players, EVERY game had a player crying about having to go to a solo lane and begging to be swapped out. EVERY game. I guarantee you at one point it was probably the biggest complaint Valve were receiving.
>>531143504>Gankslop meta makes it so people want out of solo laneHoly shit, stop the fucking presses!!!
>>531115678>>531121518the majority of mobatards are friendless losers that are too afraid to beg randoms for invites.
>>531137180>>531143504These two.
It was basically both casual and "pros" bitching about solo for different reasons.
At the same time the soul mechanics were geting fucked with on a monthly basis.
>game rewards farming 24/7 ignoring fights and only doing the minimum for defense
what the actual fuck are they thinking? who wants to play this? they needed to tone down the moba shit months ago who even likes this
>>531140717>ivyfags dont play the gameanymore
>>531149551The desire to see my numbers go up is inevitably drowned out by my overwhelming urge to kill people. Every time there is downtime in a match, I have to drink 1-2 bottles of water to wash down the frothing from my mouth. I have to listen to my teammates playing therapist like I escaped from some kind of asylum, telling me to calm down.
I don't want to be calm, I want to keep burning until all that remains is ash, I have enemies, I hate farming.
>>531140717Nerfing their hero every patch does that, retard.
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>>531140717Still here, just running spirit almost exclusively now
>>531140717half of the ecelebs for this game are fucking ivyfags, retard-o
>>531150393I was gonna call bullshit but I forgot all the faggots I don't like actually do play Ivy alot
We should go to 5 player teams and have one of them be a dedicated jungler. Gigabuff kill souls and jungle souls for the jungler and giganerf jungle souls and boxes for everyone else.
>>531091145Pretty much this...
>Hey new game!>oh what the fuck this is a alpha>how do I grind for skins?>man the arts not done? sheesh Ill come back latter
Deadlock was kino when the game only had 1.5k players and matchmaking was scheduled.
The worse of the game at that time was that retarded autist catgirl and sex with abrams posters.
I became a Holiday main by accident because even when you have nine characters selected if one of them is Holiday there's a 90% chance you're getting her
Pocket seems like one of the more fun heroes but he also seems like he requires 5x the effort of most other heroes to be equally effective and i just dont want to play as a high APM massive spastic for 40~ minutes
pocket is literally just press ult and you're done thats it thats the hero how the fuck did you get filtered by that?
>>531153125How do trannies just infest things like that? Right from the get go there was that catgirl retard meowing in the mic every game.
I assume it's because every big streamer now basically has to put up with their shit or be canceled. Like you can't just say "Okay shut the fuck up you're not a girl you're just annoying just play the damn game" because then you're immediately crucified by everyone in the lobby vying for social credit points and then eventually all of heckin reddit for telling the tranny larping in game to shut the fuck up.
>>531158094You've hit the nail on the head nigga. Thank god donald trvmp will force detrans or 41% all these trannies.
>>531156150>pocket is literally just press ultTell me you're in Alchemist without telling me you're in Alchemist
>>531158639He doesn't even know how to reply to posts lol.
>>531117714It literally might take me another 1000 hours to get into Emissary and I might suicide before then
you're tarded enough to get filtered by baby's first ult bot. you dont deserve a (you).
Just hit Oracle 2 tonight. am I good yet?
>>531160220depends, what are your thoughts on referring to pocket as an "ultbot"
Valve needs to add a kitsune hero to Deadlock. The chinese audience demands it.
>team mates can't press F
>auto loss vs abrams, shiv, bebop team
great meta, great mechanics
>>531161704it's the meta and mechanic's fault that players cant push a key on their keyboard?
>>531161735after playing this game for months, I don't like melee and I don't like parry. parry is simultaneously ridiculous punishing while eating a heavy melee chunks health more than just shooting people for the first 20 minutes, it's not satisfying, it's not fun, and more often than not it's just a random snowball depending on how good or bad your teammates at this one thing are.
half heavy melee damage, make rebuttal parry the norm, halve parry stun, and give a succesful parrier a weapon bonus damage or something.
>dude just make heavy melee do half damage lol lmao im trans btw
why do whiners always have the worst ideas?
>>531162390hey, if you wanted to know why 140k people dropped this game like hot dogshit there you go
i know it seems obvious that deadlock is set in the early 1900s but my money's on it being set much later than that, and that the world has just entered a state of arrested development due to the introduction of the supernatural
sort of like medieval fantasy rules, where the medieval ages last hundreds or even thousands of years with no noticeable progression in technology
>>531162595nigga i'm the first to say the game's popularity dropped like an anvil because it's awful but to think it's because of the melee system of all things is the most retarded take i've heard in a while. if you dislike melee so much you know what you can do? buy one of the dozens of melee res items currently in the game, stay outside of fucking melee range, actually try to parry for once in your life. if you're having trouble GETTING parried then it's a nonissue because you just ignore the system entirely and build something different then, the fuck is this? It's like complaining gun is garbage because you can't aim.
>queue up game
>we win, 3:1 kill ratio
>queue up game
>we lose, 1:3 kill ratio
>repeat
literally every game is like this. for every twenty stomps I get maybe one is actually a close game and I'm not even exaggerating at all. I remember making the same complaint nearly TEN months ago. there is absolutely no way that nerfing item cooldown or re -valuating soul splits whatever have that much priority over this dogshit matchmaking. 100k people dropped this game but the concern for the multiplayer is item balance? these devs are out of their fucking minds. you can edit items and heroes all you want after you fix the glaring problems right in front of your faces.
>but its a playtest
its a playtest but instead of addressing a core flaw with our mutliplayer video game we have to pander to the concerns of FOTM metaslaves
>>531163556queueing at midnight and waiting 5m+ to find a game without having the competitive checkbox leads to this
>>531162950I think there's a radio voice line that says the game is set in 1943
Its fascinating how we're nearing, what, 15 years of MOBAs being a popular genre and most discussion still boils down to "team ooga, me booga". It's always "i'm losing because my team can't parry", "i'm losing because i don't have a solo lane". You're not winning more because you're not good enough. You're the only constant in all your games. This has been true for WC3 Dota, and its still true now, but dunning-kruger will still dominate, even a decade from now.
I really hope they put a range limit on Haze's and Infernus' passives. Actually have these retards play instead of shooting from a distance to stack debuffs.
>>531166798true but the number of mistakes you get to make compared to your team always seems skewed. die back to back and it's gg meanwhile your team has been chain feeding. every moba is like this too.
>>531167605Even if it feels like that, all you can do is to play better. Aim better, learn movement, study better players, improve your skills with your hero. Improve as a player and you'll win more lanes, you'll help more lanes, you'll make more plays and you will open up opportunities for your team. Play better and you will win more. Its either that, or blame everything on factors you can't change, and resign yourself to defeat while telling yourself that nothing could have been done. Just like in real life, its this decision, between striving to improve or blaming everyone else that defines who are the true losers.
>>531166798Wish more people had this mindset instead of giving up at the pick phase because lil baby didnt get the hero he wanted. Well this and people crying about ranks in here are clowns
>>531168191Nigger shut the fuck up and wait, leaks dont matter
i only lose because team bad
>>531167854it's perplexing that I can have thousands of hours collectively across many mobas and the number of times where I've been carried and my mistakes didnt result in an immediate loss is like a 1-2% but in every game I'm in I feel like I am the 1-2% for my mouthbreathing team
>>531162093shooting someone for 2 seconds does more damage than melee for 90% of heroes and you don't have to get literally next to your target and face tank their abilities to do it
Melee is a meme that solely exists for artificial hype during laning phase
>>531171507Melee is the most cringe playstyle simply because of how janky and dogshit it is
>>531140717I do, just not Ivy. moved to Pocket and McGinnis since these faggot devs fucking despise build diversity and want to shoehorn her into a forced support cuck playstyle while also nerfing tether every other patch (it's okay when McGinnis does it!!!!)
>Ivytards still whining
Lmfao
Man I just want the hero patch to come out already so everyone can collectively seethe when their hero gets reworked
>>531177516Troons love Ivy though?
>Rework slots so you can actually go all in on one item type and stack damage
>Everyone that isn't one of the hard meta heroes of [current patch] hits like a wet noodle anyways
Bravo Valve
My game has been crashing every 10 minutes. I upgraded my PC and reinstalled my operating system, and this motherfucker still keeps crashing. Pls help.
>>531177535I know for sure Abrams isn't going to be reworked at all, best Valve can do is adjust numbers so it doesn't matter
>>531172818Lmao McGee was getting a nerf after nerf for some time. Honestly her playstyle is the most unfun in the game, even worse than mirage, not gonna care if they rework or delete her
>>531180643Her kit is utterly cringe and whenever she's good it's a sign the meta is dogshit
>>531176762i'm fine now, i finally found a build that works
just rush kudzu max and spam ult on cooldown with CC for free kills
there should be hero voicelines sometimes depending on items
>Mirage when buying carpet: Hmph, haven't rode those since coming here
>>531182647shopkeeper already comments on mirage carpet
"a little on the nose, but you do you"
Playing against a haze is a fucking nightmare
4/5 of my last 5 losses have been because of cheaters on the other team, 3 of the games had the same guy blatantly doing it, last one had a guy who is top 50 on his heroes sneaky doing it but confirmed on replay
will valve ever address the cheaters or will they emperor has no clothes the whole thing
>>531183882>will valve ever address the cheatersrumao
>>531180609Same, specifically feels like it happens on big hits or damage instances in a 15 meter radius
>>531184428yeah but what happens in a future where electronics become cheap and widespread enough (more than they are) and these games are filled with quite literally millions of chinese, russian, south american, indian etc hackers? Escape from Tarkov but in every game? How do you even maintain the facade of pretending to have a legitimate game
>>531128786I've been banned 3 months in a row for a month at at a time for doing this by the way.
>>531143470Yeah? You wanna share it? I tried this
extended mag
close quarters
fleetfoot
intensifying mag
titanic mag
point blank
healing rite
rescue beam
extra regen
healing booster
knockdown
warp stone
as for flex
sprint boots
enduring speed
cd
duration
range
It didn't feel great. I think you need to go monster rounds, titanic magazine, slowing bullets and fleetfoot or something. It didn't feel like I particularly did great damage. Intensifying is just dog shit on her I guess. And point blank didn't apply well up close.
It sucks how you need to go fleetfoot and drop an active now just to not have absolutely dog shit move speed while firing.
>>531154936On the brightside, you'll never have to play anyone else
They seriously need to go ahead and revert the CD item to what it was. Game feels dog shit.
>>531187774yeah it really slows me
>>531188067I genuinely couldn't tell you one fucking person that was like "oh man cooldowns are out of control you know what would fix this? doubling the cost of the CD item"
>>531188148my biggest problem is people like infernus dealing gun dmg and spirit dmg
>>531188148if item cooldowns aren't that important, then why not just stick to the t3 CD item?
>>531188237They are important. Have you seen rescue beam?
>>531188312then pay the support sissy tax and buy trans cooldown
casually having unstoppable on a 40 second cooldown was stupid
>>531187774if you don't use many item passive/actives the tier 4 isn't needed, also flat 30% CD is pretty neat and it's still worth the cost
i would give it a little boost more still, like +2 extra ooc health regen or +10 spirit or something
>It's okay this item was overnerfed because braindead gun nigger builds that wm1 people exist
>>531188218>buy QSR>rape everyone all game with 20000 spirit damage They need to rape the scaling on this super hard so you're incentivised to actually build spirit power items if you want it to be a significant source of damage. It's bad enough it reapplies instantly if you tip someone from 50m with 1 bullet and applies all the debuffs in the world if you want it to. He became a big issue when they made spirit power be given to people innately through leveling. Heroes like him benefit most from that change. And it's no surprise they're all raping the meta.
>got put into a ritualist game as seven because the matchmaker just gave up and threw me into a wheelchair elo game
>lane partner is a warden who obviously also isn't ritualist
>get guardian by minute 5
>roflstomp the game and get the highest stat in every category
this matchmaking is really good!!!
i'm sure that fresh install infernus is really going to want to keep playing the game!!!
haha, I wonder why there is no new blood in this game!! it sure is a mystery!!!
>>531168191You guys are too toxic to be deserving of any leaks.
>>531171507This, but parryslop.
Anyone got a tier list for which deadlock heroes are the most racist?
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I'm taking a little break for a while, the current meta and state of the game isn't doing it like it used to, not sure but I need something fresh
>>531196012Whenever I get fatigue from playing something intensive and stressful, I start playing something boring and grindy. It's oddly refreshing, it's like going outside and taking a hike.
>>531187353i usually take the times in the order you see this
i gave up on building gun completely, it's not that i didn't try since after having some initial success with this i figured i might as well try adding monster rounds and kinetic but it went terrible
vortex web is extremely optional most of the time i don't buy it, rest of slots depend on the game state
>>531198480>i usually take the times items*
also the imbue targets for expansion and compress are kudzu and (generally) air drop respectively
>>531162975>buy one of the dozens of melee res items currently in the gamenobody buys melee res items unless it's part of the build, especially with the cut down item slots now. they need to fold the melee res into actual green items into random items nobody buys
>stay outside of melee rangenot even part of my complaints about melee
>try to parry never said I couldn't parry either
>it's like complaining gun is garbagethe crux of my complaint is early stage melee is too strong and too bursty, it should scale more
Leaks are inherently irreplaceably important to this game right now. Let me elaborate:
Every single new online multiplayer game right now has a means of progression, or any sort of acknowledgement of the player, of the fact that he's been playing and a thanks for their support. Be it cases, skins, badges, levels, new content, anything rewarding the player for their loyalty and dedication. One could argue ranks fill that spot in Deadlock, but the low player count make it very hard to rank up, and it's especially impossible if you play with friends worse than yourself.
Why spend 2-4 months investing time in a game only to MAYBE be met with an update that rewards you with new content if you can just play something else in the meantime? That's what most people have been doing. And even if it's just a playtest, I do believe that not having any players around to play the game will impact how much more resources Valve will consider dumping into this game. Remember, the game still has to be a financial success at the end of the day.
Leaks kind of push that to the side a tiny bit by reminding the player on a weekly, or monthly basis, that their time invested into this game will be rewarded at some point even if they aren't seeing it just yet.
>>531200090>reddit spacing
>>531200095It's a playtest, the ""reward"" is that you are able to play it at all. That is your motivation, that is your investment. Anything past that is you just being entitled or lacking an attention span. You are not the kind of player the game is looking to please if you need keys jingled in front of your face every 2 weeks to keep you engaged, that is a personal failing on your part
>>531200503I was gonna call you a faggot but then I hovered the post and it really is ultra reddit spacing, not even good formatting, just flat out a reddit tourist.
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>>531203716deadlock sisters...?
NOTHING'S WRONG NOTHING'S WRONG LOOK A REDDIT FORMATTER, PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT THE PLAYER COUNT AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
>>531200095If you want to be rewarded, post feedback in the forums. They retreated to a small group of trusted players in a secret build because all the players did not give any feedback, which means they are in the dark for what players want out of the game.
>>531203716I don't see how this negates anything I said
very good general fellas. keep it up
so are they just refusing to balance seven at this point or what
He's mediocre outside of pisslow.
build knockdown, you retarded low elo faggot.
>>531208517>58% winratelet me guess, you one trick seven
>muh winrates
I guess shiv isn't cancer broken right now too huh? stupid handless monkey.
>>531208517>>531208608Seven has been highest winrate multiple times over the past few months and hasn't dipped below top 5 even in the highest elo
>B-BUT KNOCKDOWNDebuff remover exists and his ult isn't the only cancerous part of his kit he can do literally everything and has great scaling. Meta abusing subhumans love to downplay their cancer huh?
>>531210434i just lost the game
>>531213240should have played McGinnis
>>531203716This is literally about how many people an alpha playtest should have. The mistake was going many times higher than this to begin with
>>531216864if dane wasnt such a retard the game wouldnt have even been made public knowledge until at least 2026-27
>>531208442The roster is too small to balance hypercarries without making them useless.
>>531198480In my experience taking headshot booster into cold front is pretty fucking good on Ivy. The bursts of damage enable something that otherwise just doesn't happen on her. Arcane Surge is strong. EE is really strong on spirit build. I feel like transcendant cooldown is sorta too much to burn early on. This build of yours is relatively light on item CDs so building it so early feels wasteful. Superior Duration enables rejuv steals with stoneform, improves debuff duration on your ult, and even helps out your kudzu denying area for longer. Really adds up between arcane surge proc and that. Definitely introduce EE into your build here. Prioritise Vortex Web over Arctic Blast. Take those later. Get EE Rapid Recharge up first then worry about luxuries.
>>531218289>f dane wasnt such a retardthe game might've been shelved internally
you never know
>>531216864Okay but hear me out. The difference is that back last July those 6500 would've been white people. Now it's russians, jajas and the few people autistic enough to still suffer through dealing with both of the former.
>>531202660>You are not the kind of player the game is looking to please if you need keys jingled in front of your face every 2 weeks to keep you engagedit's a live service slop game, retard, that's BY DEFAULT the kind of audience deadlock is looking for.
>>531219431>white people.>burgers>white
>>531219864yes. in 2005 the entire internet was white americans, white europeans, and japanese people (honorary whites). letting developing shit holes have the internet ruined everything.
>>531219864dont let them turn you on your brothers. white yuro and white burger infighting is what they want.
>>531219982shitskins were using internet since 90s retardo
that includes you btw
>>531219863Except if that were the case they'd already be selling skins for characters and have ridiculous battle passes or monetization behind it, Smite 2 is arguably the only other comparable game in a similar situation by virtue of it being a moba and in an open-beta situation and they have half the playerbase and twice the cosmetics and roster.
>>531220193As an Irish guy it makes me laugh when people sit there and ask am I okay with British people like there's still some sort of conflict there. We both stand against the same enemy now.
>>531220470Revisionism. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if you're Jewish.
>>531219431TRVTHNVKE.
>>531219864RU ape hands typed this post
>>531220531>like there's still some sort of conflict thereis this an IRA approved post?
>>531220684Just a reminder that multi billion dollar company Valve has tried not once but twice in two different games to shove russian pigs into their own special gulag queues. And they only backed down because of accusations of 'racism' when all the orcs screeched on the forums about the horrors of being forced to play with one another.
>>531219431Why do you think theres a secret club build to begin with
its so funny how theyre gonna add a palestinian hero on full release
>>531221359>call russians niggers in my pubs>proceed to not get invited because I'm 'toxic' to retarded russians>better invite trannies with bad takes on game design instead!
that guy nerfing ivy every patch?
russian
>>531221402they should add kabbalah magician too
>>531221359It's been leaked before. We know it exists.
>>531224202>kabbalah magicianhe won't be jewish though
we need a Crowley spoof casting greek curses or something
>>531224331yeah no shit that's not what he was saying
>>531220504are
are you seriously suggesting that they're not going that exact same fucking direction as soon as the game releases? fuck me even as soon as they do a public beta?
just look at how bad dota is with this shit retard, what the fuck are you even saying?
>>531219260>This build of yours is relatively light on item CDs so building it so early feels wastefulit's worth noting that the pic there is usually not the final build
most of the time i got for some active that counters some fag on the enemy team like return fire, debuff remover, silence wave, warp stone etc. before getting rapid expansion/spirit lifesteal/charges, or infuser just to gigafacetank teamfights with kudzu
arctic blast is extremely strong CC for securing kills both early-mid and late game, and i basically always buy EE when the game goes for long enough
Metro is actually braindead
>>531220504Both tf2 and dota2 cosmetics system is complete dogshit propped up by mentally unwell gambling addicts and the hats are ugly due to chinks and children addicted to shity shit. Remember the game for what it is right now, you will miss it
>>531230412ofc he is, its an OW player
>>531226598Assuming Deadlock lives its gonna be a while before the hat degradation hits
It usually starts off normal until Valve just says fuck it and goes particle crazy
Which makes the community skinmakers follow suit
>>531233430nigga it took dota less than a year to add that fucking retarded cowboy set for ursa which went completely against their rules
do you really think they're gonna have any sort of self restraint this time around?
Zesty gay pink Abrams skin, carrying a vogue magazine instead of his book
>>531234581red succubus (male) abrams dressed in demonic lingerie
>>531230572Not even in like "get the right answer but slower" way, the man will spend 3 days thinking about something and its still retarded
>>531235217I got the perfect Abrams skin, he even comes with his own book
Ivy in a playboy bunny suit
>>531230412theres a reason he was run out of ow, even they couldnt stand his ass
>>531234104Picrel should be reposted any time someone suggests that community cosmetics and valve's tactic of implementing them is a good idea
>>531234581>>531235217Normal Abrams would unironically look sexier, its more fun and classy to leave something to the imagination. You can already find a mod for him which simply removes the coat, its all what it takes to raise interesting thoughts in people
>>531235478just like blizz delayed OW2 and it still came out shit
>>531164425I play mostly at prime hours and its still like this. but you are right, late hours just make it worse
>>531226598I'm not saying that they're not going to have cosmetics retard but if their entire goal were to bring in as many consoomer sloptards then what exactly is stopping them from doing it months and months ago as the game surged in popularity/word of mouth more? They're clearly capable of bullshitting some quick outfits for everyone since they literally already did so for Christmas, but not only have they not repeated this type of event they also don't even let you wear the skin anymore to rub FOMO in people's faces. Everything they do with this game is intentional, if they wanted heaving retards like you jumping up and down for this week's Vindicta Bikini Summer Fun Collection Bundle + Battle Pass then they would have done so already.
im just happy that there'll be 0 community input for skins you faggots have been completely poisoned by shit like fortnite and would genuinely throw your allowance for le ebin kino anime skin on any given character
>>531238309>then what exactly is stopping them from doing it months and months ago as the game surged in popularity/word of mouth more?80% of the visual assets being blatantly undone and/or in need of a rework entirely
can't really sell cosmetics when the fucking base isn't done yet, can you? even scams like multiversus understood this.
>>531238309>Everything they do with this game is intentional
>>531238926>80% of the visual assets being blatantly undone and/or in need of a rework entirelyThe map and store all looked remarkably shittier 7 months ago, and yet they still put out Christmas skins. This is also why I brought up Smite 2, they're equally unfinished but have the benefit of UE5 making it pass off as more than barebones, and yet can still find it in themselves to put out skins for characters that they add to the game a week earlier and battle passes. If they wanted to, they would.
>>531238523>genuinely throw your allowance>allowancesir, I have a salary
>>531240596it is your employers allowance to you wagie
>>531240556Christmas skins were a meme
If my post ends in 3 then frank this week
If my post ends in 7 then no big update for 6 weeks
>>531246225when does the steamdb depot get spammed with updates?
>>531246225>>531246551store asset update 2 hours ago, which means a new banner and blogpost
very likely
>>531246816Was the last store asset update when they added the 4 shitty heroes?
>>531246868No it was the item update, but it also happened when they added the 4 heroes.
>>531246973Oh right I forgot we got a blog post for the item slop
>>531247062the item slop was the best update we've had since the test opened up
this should be the big hero update though, we're gonna hit 15k again this week!
>>531247234Nah they'll just nerf M&K and move on
Whoever said emissary is the best rank to queue into is a fucking retard. its ritualist with a different coat of paint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OdAH3YWAeM
Shhhh... Our God is speaking...
New meta is on the menu...
Why does Mirage build Mystic Regeneration?
>be playing a game of 8inch uncut dick Warden
>haze starts spurging out over the mic because he 1v5'd in enemy jungle
>look at map, no one is pushing objectives everyone is farming
>notice its 40 minutes into the game
>immediately have a brain melting epiphany
>holy shit this game genre is actually a dead end waste of time where you spend 30 minutes preparing to pvp for 1 minute at a time
>suddenly my whole perspective is instantly shifted
>feel disgusted and realize ive actually just wasted all this time
>realize this game will never be balanced, it will always be meta shifting quicksand
>now I can't unsee and can't change my perspective back
>this shit is actually just stealth gambling
>MOBAs might actually be the most objective waste of time out of every video game type there is
Welp fuck, epiphanies fucking suck man. I can't go back no matter how hard I try, the fun is gone
>>531249410Because djinn mark procs it, so shooting someone with 1 bullet provides him 4 hp regen per hero. He basically gets 8 free hp regen in lane
how to play infernus this patch
>>531250772Same as before, just mildly less effective
>>531246816>>531246973Store asset update means... those update posts?
The store update post is for a blog post in which they tell us they're delaying the next update.
>>531251424>>531251226yeah its basically the ones with the huge banners
not the key jiggling number changes
>>531246225I'm sorry for being dumb but what exactly does this member list tell me?
Hopefully it comes out tomorrow, i have shit to do later in the week
>>531251872red name = Valve developer.
If you're ever wondering if a big patch is ACTUALLY imminent, check the Discord. ~80% of the developers will be active on the Discord the day of the patch.
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new update wishlist?
>frank, priest, VB and bookworm
>hero labs reworked and put into matchmaking
>artpass for base interior
>lash, wraith and vyper models
>>531253517>girlfriends added to deadlockplz yoshi
oh boy the wave of seethe because of the model reworks is coming again
What we do is none of your business, faggots. Stop spying on us.
>>531253517I want a model for sinclaire
I think Mirage 3 should not auto-pop, and must be manually pressed in order to deal damage.
>>531253517I just want new heroes
>>531256647i think ur gay LOL
>hey look it's yoshi!
>pops affliction teleports out
>won't commend you back after you commend him
don't meet your heroes...
>see anon at gym
>he's sucking cocks in the showers
>won't make eye contact after you cum in his mouth
don't meet your heroes..
work on your fucking game yoshi.
>>531261576>go to gym showercouldn't be me
>see anon
>He's a faggot
...as expected
So are we expecting a tuesday or thursday drop for the patch?
>>531262256patch? they're going to announce that they're gonna focus on other projects and sunset the game
>>531246225this happens every monday during patch week. good catch, anon.
>>531262256depends on how many red names we see tomorrow morning pst. more reds = higher chance that the update drops later in the evening.
>>531262897>>531262256surely you niggas aren't actually expecting a patch this week
surely you don't have to be teached this lesson AGAIN?
they're actually announcing end of service tomorrow
>>531262995hopium is a hell of a drug, man
you guys really put the "dead" in deadlock.
>>531262995we're gonna get a patch eventually(tm) and the last two majors were separated by two months
if they really uploaded a new banner it makes sense that they'll have something for us soon
Patches won't fix the underlying issues.
>>531264893>the unofficial community made sub 2k tourneys are the thing holding the updates backjesus h christ someone get a paramedic here this guy is overdosing on that copium
So what's the cope going to be once they actually go public beta and the numbers stay overall the same?
don't worry, this will be the patch they finally balance seven
>>531265472That deadlock will be saved once it hits 1.0
>game is totally dead guys
>you guys aren't getting a patch this week
>umm actually patches wont save the game tee hee
YOU ARE HERE
>im not having fun SO QUIT HAVING FUN!!!
damn even the doomfaggots are on heavy copium
why is the skybox so low again
i feel like i shouldn't be hitting my head by doublejumping on some buildings
>>531265472umm vyper is supposed to have big milkers
instead she should have a twin brother who's built like this
and yes he should also have a crush on lash like his sister
>>531265592is the patch in this room with us right now? how about those player numbers? surely you wouldn't mind posting them... right?
Why come every day to the dedicated thread about a game you hate only to say that its doomed and will fail? What drives someone to be so dedicated to something they dislike?
>>531266215i'm just helping this thread along to bump limit faster. do wish the best for the game though.
>>531266215i like the game enough to be interested in it's development, acknowledge that it won't do well enough to hold valve's attention in the long run, and at the same time get schadenfreude from seeing the game fail time and again because of valve's obvious pattern of behaviour and the community being some fucking how blindsighted by it every single time
in other words: if you weren't so obnoxious about it i wouldn't be here.
I tried Geist Ult Reverb meme build and it seems horrible to play. Never low enough to use ult until you're out of range or dead.
>>531266695Do you genuinely have nothing better to do with your time than to shitpost in a thread about a game you want to see fail?
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>>531262256No way it's this week. It's next week earliest.
>>531266928i do like how you somehow got that i wanted the game to fail out of that, spectacular reading comprehension there anon
>>531265472Notice when the game peaks
Its all NA and some EU
China has yet to bite at Deadcock
>>531267257I don't really believe that you don't want the game to fail, because if that's true your obcession makes even less sense. I really wish i could understand what fuels schizos like you, the FF obcessed guy on /v/ or the many others that exist on 4chan. I can't imagine caring so much about a videogame to the point where i'd dedicate so much time shitposting about it. No matter what you say you clearly have some hatred towards deadlock or maybe valve, or you sublimated some frustration in your life into this topic, because people don't dedicate themselves so much to something if there's no strong feelings involved. You've been here saying the game has no future and will be abandoned for months. Surely you understand this isn't normal?
>>531267595>why do you do this>explain why>HMM NO I DON'T BELIEVE YOU I WISH I KNEW WHY YOU DO THIS BECAUSE SURELY IT'S *headcanon*genuinely meds, now
also you're assuming for some reason i'm the only guy here who shares these opinions. see
>>531267123
>>531267593I kind of wonder if the setting is the problem? Like what cultural investment would Chinese markets have in this very specific alt history NA noir setting? It's not something you can really fix by checking ethnic boxes on the roster. To be clear, I'm not advocating to change the game heavily to attract that audience, just saying I believe that there is a significant barrier which prevents it from getting any traction with it.
>>531268684i don't think there's many chinese nationals hanging around the parts of the internet where deadlock invites were spreading
also they hate ugly characters so they wouldn't even give the game a try until launch where they can spam boho every match
>>531268684all the gacha crap aimed at the chinese are all technically alt history or sci fi settings, but they just want goon bait so the backstory gets drowned out
maybe the game just isn't that appealing to begin with? it's not like ruskies made a dent into the player numbers despite of how much people bitch about them
>>531268684they just need to add appealing characters rather than DEI slop to have the most important market on lock.
>>531269562Maybe it's fun and people complaining here just aren't the target demographic
>>531268684>I kind of wonder if the setting is the problemMore like Valve hasnt bothered shilling it to chinks yet
Its also why the heroes are getting their designs smoothed out thoufh
>>531270347yea lil bro the 14k that remained out of the 200k+ that tried it are i'm sorry to say
>>531268684I think you misunderstood my post
I dont mean to put any judgment calls on the chinks
Im just saying that for the playtest its mostly been NA and EU so far
Expect Perfect World to go full throttle when Valve gives them the goahead
>>531270494>valve>shillingI swear it's like you don't know fuckall about them. They DON'T do marketing.
My hot take is that I think the game will do fine if they keep updating it post-launch, and I think the team working on the game actually enjoys it so it won't get abandoned for years.
>>531271146Some of them must be happy to be freed from the dota and cs mines lmao
>>531268684The entire game is ugly monsters and demons.
Go look at that infamous poll Riot did for League.
>WestVariety of monsters, cute little creatures, ugly dudes, hot dudes, and hot women
>EastAll hot human/human-like men and women
The east just don't like varied designs. It's why all their gacha games are just selling off humans with multi-colored hair.
>>531271834Must be why all the new heroes that got leaked were all semi attractive dudes and chicks
Even fucking Frank who is supposed to be Frankensteins Monster turned into a pretty boy
>>531271146We'll see.
I still hold to this day that Artifact could have actually been a 50k -- 100k consistent playerbase if they actually bothered to just release a few more expansions.
The moment the first expansion failed they just threw up their hands, tried to reinvent everything and failed the small niche that actually loved the game, then gave up.
Imagine if that happened to Deadlock.
>Release>~10k players>Valve announce they're abandoning the original moba concept instead of making content>Release it as a hero shooter that attracts no audience>Abandon it
>>531272040i don't have to imagine it; that's exaclty what half of the fanbase is currently asking for. and what you describe is exactly what's gonna happen.
>>531272040Nah.
Artishat was FUNDAMENTALLY unfun.
Deadlock on its most base level is actually fun.
>>531272040the problem is that artifact was richard garfields child and valve just followed along
they didnt have a main driving force within the company itself
>join game
>guy on mic telling everyone what to do is playing ginnis
>goes 1-6
why is it always the ginnis dudes who try to play captain but then suck dick?
>>531266841Skill issue, obviously you buy items to close the gap when you're in threshold
>>531272810>they didnt have a main driving force within the company itselfpic related
>T-THAT DOESN'T COUNT!!didn't save blunderlords either
>>531273865unironically correct
valve originally wanted to hire drodo for it since they made the original mod
so blunderlords was just a pet project by a handful of devs there that really liked autochess
Since we're at bump limit I propose that we make no new deadlock threads until the patch
Goodbye everyone
>>531274421so blunderlords literally had internal company drive yet it didn't help them at all
clawed my way back into oracle boys
>>531276693if seven then your real elo is alchemist
>>531272040Oh so you're here shitting on deadlock and hoping for its demise because you're the /v/ artifactschizo who still hates valve for it to this day, seven years later. God, that's just bizarre.
>hero I play a lot and am good at
>put against players I'm much better than regardless of hero
>hero I rarely play at all
>put against players I would struggle against on my main(s)
what the fuck is this algorithm?
>>531279625??? I love Deadlock. You're being a schizo.
>>531249614They really need to do something about the farming problem. It really sucks the fun out of the game.
>>531270724I ain't related to you nigga
On a 9 game losing streak and I don't know what to do
>>531283347Wait for the patch
>>531276693>been playing spirit/beam kelvin>do well but braindead team>go gun kelvin instead>keep winning/carrying>climbed back to oraclefeels good man.