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Chairdog edition

>What is this?
A mass-multiplayer survival game, set in the Dune universe.
A mix of PvE and PvP, focusing heavily on PvP in the endgame.

>Links
https://duneawakening.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/

>Crowd-sourced DD map
https://www.planetologist.app/
https://vps800955.ovh.net/maps_dune_awakening/

shit dead game with no content lol you fell for another funcom scam

ask for a refund you fucking bitch lol i dare you
now get back to building your blocks for no fucking reason
faggots

>>530871505
I already got my refund Joel, but send me one of those ultimate edition keys for filling in your survey

Anyone in Taqwa's Watch have an Arhun Lasgun Blueprint? Need one for the the craft a lasgun achievement.

>>530871505
Dra tilbake over dammen, din feite jævel. La noen som ikke er nostalgisk for fortidens forjævlige MMO-design ta over.

just got an orni scan module but the range is pathetic

what the fuck is this even used for?

>>530873458
shut the fuck up

>>530873458
serves a very specific and useful purpose, you'll understand if you think about it

>>530873458
It's useful for finding resources through walls, specifically in the deep desert going to the big islands and trying to find ore. Also useful for finding small shit like agave seeds. Do a bunch of scanning and then check the map to find them.

>>530873543
How are professionals with public presence allowed to look like this? Overweight and poorly groomed to the point where you feel you can taste his stink through the picture, no matter how far from the truth that might be. It's a disgrace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkFOhOxGppM
>>530873458
you need points in the scanning perk, it's for people that play the game.

>>530800080
>still no mk6 base screenshots but mine
amazing
for a thread full of self-proclaimed dupers nobody but the person who grinded has anything

Is there any point to the other weapons or is it just drillshot #1 for all content?

>>530873458
It's a pretty big scan wdym
Like, in the DD you can pop it on any patch of sand and find like 3 buried treasures and shit

>>530881471
spitdart will take care of most things before you get to drillshot range, drillshot is for melee or heavies you did not see before they shielded up.

>>530881471
Its the only thing you need

>Dev survey
>One of the options for more content you want to see is "dominating others"
Lol, no one wants to play your seal-clubbing experience funcom.

>>530884987
The irony of modern PvP
>every new age gamer wants to grief and 'dominate' others
>nobody wants to get griefed and 'dominated'
The obvious solution is bots, but half the player base hates that, too, because it removes the fantasy of making another human being suffer.

>>530884987
May if the questions were really just different phrasings of "what variant of the Bartle taxonomy of gamers are you?" Funcom STILL has no fucking clue what their player base is.

>>530887205
The solution is balanced PvP. Not one soul will ever complain about duels or arenas.

>>530887205
The obvious solution is PvE, but PvP players are so dumb you might be able to just trick them into thinking NPCs are real players if they fly thopters to spice blows.

>>530871919
God is good!

>>530888925
>not one soul will complain about balanced PvP
Really? Do you know how much people cry and whine about matchmaking that is either skill based or engagement based? Do you know how much people cry and complain about 'sweats' and 'tryhards'? Are you aware that the majority of PvP players thinks they are somehow better than their peers and held back by their teammates?
You truly underestimate how delusional the average consumer is. 90% of people think they are above average in a majority of traits, skills and activities they pursue. If an activity includes feedback that contradicts this narrative, that shit hurts. That's why Call of Duty, Battlefield and others are trying to hide KDR and other metrics.

>>530889821
>The obvious solution is PvE
That's literally what I said. Bots = NPCs = PvE. That's my point, NPCs don't care about being the fodder for players. They don't mind losing, getting dominated and griefed.

>>530887205
I think the solution is something like battlegrounds. Places where people can actually play, enjoy, practice, dominate with lower stakes.
And it fits the lore too, you could have instanced maps with Atriedes vs. Hark vs. 3rd party/smuggler military operations

Cut content?

>>530891239
no, you can do that now, use the welder

>>530891239
No you can recolour your vehicles whenever you want anon. But you probably don't have many swatches unlocked.

>>530888925
agreed le balanced honor du-el where both sides consent and have good sportmanship and they can never have better gear it must always be in a vacuum cuckshed where i have 4 button and they have 4 button and equalized gear that can never be better than mine, and very slow TTK, and then duncan idaho will give me a blowjob if i lose and say i was a good little swordmaster

>>530891526
The number of swatches is what I am talking about. I have only ever seen swatches for armor as a lansraad reward.

>>530891713
Oh yeah I mean I'm sure they'll drip feed swatches as content drops over the coming months. Kinda insane to me that they launched without being able to put on guild colours/emblems on your vehicles.

>>530891713
>>530891853
You must engage with the endgame content to get endgame cosmetics. There are Hark/Atreides, CHOAM, and some Blue quest swatch. They're all in the game. You need to join a guild and participate to receive rewards.

>>530891945
There's like 5 vehicles swatches in total available ingame right now, none of which require you to engage with any endgame content whatsoever.

>>530892081
There's a swatch for every house.

>>530892147
No there isn't. Picrel is the only ones available in-game. Red is the CHOAM one and then you also have the pre-order swatch which is blue. That's it for vehicles.

>>530892413
How do you get the red one? The choam swatch I have is white and orange and it isn't vehicle specific.

>>530892545
No I just mean that it's misnamed in the database. There's no actual red swatch available.

I'm making my first thopter for DD
Mk5 Scout or Mk5 Assault?

>>530894445
Scout

>>530895592
>the hackers were american boomers
>the griefers were american boomers
Why does this thread keep calling them random impoverished nations, whose citizens probably can't afford a PC to run Dune?

>>530895592
What is gf-private even
some botting/farming thing? Or are these dupers

>>530895592
95% positive this is just hopium false-flagging to pretend anything was solved, or a deflection by hack platforms to get the heat off them from thirdies having zero subtlety in a game with broken anti-cheat

that's to say, every other redguides-adjacent board has been dead silent about anything regarding bans and i don't think any are actually happening - we duped a hundred-thousand of whatever the fuck we wanted and had a few people speedhacking, and the only reason anyone stopped was because we quit playing
ironically we only quit playing because the game itself is unplayable, random shit just disappearing from storage/inventory between DD-basin transits constantly

>>530895845
hacking suite, aimbot, speedhack, snipe through walls, steal vehicles/claims.

>spic suspenser belt guildsperg is a duper/speedhacker
why am i not surprised

>>530898052
i know is hard being a terminally-online transgender gamer in today's political climate but you don't need to stalk me over it anon

>>530895813
PC is the poorfag platform

Does turning on your Holtzmann shield do anything vs scout thopter rockets? I'm seeing conflicting data, some saying it doesn't matter as you still go down in 2 rockets (1st removes shield, second downs you), and some saying it takes up to 10 rockets to down you with a shield up. Just looking for ANYTHING to try to counter these rocket kids when I'm trying to solo mine

>>530899860
keep a radar deployed so you can actually see them coming beyond the 200m radar distance and be ready to activate your anti-air trap turrets before they're actually in rocket range
if you haven't found the scrambler chaff module for your thopter yet it's because joel is a retarded dumbfuck who hasn't added any of this stuff despite centering the entire game around air combat

post your base

What happens if a player kill you? Does he get all your loot?

>>530901690
no. you only drop materials from your inventory. blueprints, ores, fuel, stuff like that. you keep all your equipped items and any weapons/tools/armor in your backpack. everything takes a tiny bit of durability damage

So I started running through the research bases and crashed ships at the very start of the DD and it's cool that each one gives a spiced duraluminum blueprint but there doesn't seem to be any fremen caves. Do they not spawn in the DD? I also assume spiced plastic blueprints only spawn in the PVP zone dungions right?

>>530888925
Pretty much true. It works for how many dozens of PVP games on the market already? It's the proven method that works. Unlike FFA PVP, which basically just has eve online as a posterchild, and that game is 90% blowing hot air and talking shit about how good FFA PVP is rather than the FFA PVP actually being fun (It's literally just ganks and batphone N+1 counter ganks)

is there a hud disable button?

also maybe a first person mode for screenshot taking?

These threads will die but not because of any issues with the game but because we've picker up 1 or 2 schizos who refuse to move on with their life and instead spend several hours a day posting in here about how much they hate this Joel guy (who doesn't even know they exist).

This always kills threads because every post about the game itself will be replied to by these people and they will always say something of 0 substance just for the sake of letting you know how mad they are.

k

>>530901487
I let it decay.

>>530910706
we all grieve differently
some are at denial and will never leave
some are at anger
game's dead from dev stupidity. even the griefing chimps quit because of inventory glitches. lmao

>>530909889
F6 for hud disable. I don't think there is a FPV.

>>530912685
Holy hell I didn't know about F6 thanks anone

>>530910706
Unironically, you can visit Reddit any time you'd like. Seriously. It's the hyper-positive echo chamber you're looking for, where criticism is thrown wayside and dissent is outright banned from having a platform. I presume that's where you will specifically end up once these threads gracelessly expire.

>>530913246
There's a middle ground between being hyper-positive and making a post every hour seething about how the game is irredeemable shit and how much you really hate this one guy.
>where criticism is thrown wayside and dissent is outright banned from having a platform
Or you could just post your "criticism" (unhinged malding really) here where literally no one involved with the game with ever see it, I guess.

>>530913501
>positivity ONLY
who the fuck do you think you are

>>530913653
Can you literally not read you fucking retard?

>>530913718
>Or you could just post your "criticism" (unhinged malding really)
you contradicted yourself and that "criticism" has been nothing but things absolutely pertinent to why the game is on that downward trajectory

>first 100 hours
good but not great. questing was ok. contracts were "ok".
>no endgame
the only person who bothered to argue was 1 faggot alone here that hacked, duped, participated in the entirely ornithopter based combat system in DD
>tier 6 pointless and not even a worthwhile goal
if you play in a group any less than 10 you will be making multiple lengthy thopter trips just to deliver building material to a place that knocks your shit down once a week, to collect resources of dubious value. nobody bothered. consensus has been reached that this is dogshit, it is almost a universal opinion. handheld psp games 2 decades old could be played for longer than this game can, and it is meant to be a LITERAL TIME SINK BASE MANAGEMENT SURVIVAL GAME.
>inventory glitching
that spice everyone was supposed to fight over can disappear. wild, now that is definitely worthwhile

things that were fixed
>landsraad
now i can hand in 350 papers for a house stillsuit swatch and 10k. wow. just be sure not to bring all your documents because the guy will not let you specify how many you wanted to give. absolutely amateurish

all of my complaints i've put in the survey.

so what is it that you like about this so much that you're throwing yourself in the way of criticism for it?

>>530914156
wait also that instance that could only have 1 person per server, i fucking forgot about that. what the fuck son

>>530914156
Literally the first 2 posts in this thread are shitposting malding and the last 4 hours of the previous thread were the same lol

Stop playing retard you'll be happier, I probably will when I get bored next week but I definitely won't continue to post here screaming at no one about it

>>530914317
maybe someone should make a thread management game for you. you'd probably like it given you're spending so much time tracking the health of this general. also would you like to answer my question about why you like this game and why you're even doing what you're doing, mongoloid?

i paid $100 for a dune game and it is my actual obligation to tell people how this is not a purchase anybody should make, especially if they liked the franchise.

>>530914489
>i'm a dumb smelly consoomer who had to buy the super expensive ultra gooner edition before i even knew if i'd like the game
lol
>so would you like to answer my question about why you like this game
I literally posted all my reasons last thread:
Interior design is my passion
I just think parrying is neat
And I like camping in my stilltent
Also I feel immersed just being in the game it really makes me FEEL like fremen
The music is good too

>>530914578
>I literally posted all my reasons last thread:
i wouldn't fucking know ANONYMOUS, we're not having a crossthread conversation.
>Interior design is my passion
there are better options, draw them out of a hat for any game with a building grid.

>I just think parrying is neat
what the fuck, the block prompted melee mechanic that existed since tenchuu? whatever then

>And I like camping in my stilltent
the thing you pull out for a minute to hide from sandstorms? what kind of hyperfixation is that? if i said 'i like the binoculars because i like to look at things', does that sound like some compelling reason to play?

>Also I feel immersed just being in the game it really makes me FEEL like fremen
so you have to imagine yourself into the game because it lacks any actual substance?

anyway you got your bumps and a bite and i am going to fuck off and do something else. what a disaster this has been

>>530914489
>i paid $100 for a dune game and it is my actual obligation to tell people how this is not a purchase anybody should make
based

>>530890872
>That's literally what I said
I know, I was making about PvPers being dumb

wut dis do
does it turn me into a lesbian if i drink it or summat

>>530916481
Yes

>>530916634
>It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

>>530917714
Apparently Brad Dourif adlibbed that completely.

>enter wreck or station looking for schems
>chest is already looted
>come back 45 minutes
>chest is still empty
>repeat
>still empty because other players are relogging into the chest area directly to get first dibs on it
Great game design.

>>530921268
They might get loot. But they are not having fun.

>>530922863
>But they are not having fun.
what? they're spending 40 minutes playing a game that's actually good inbetween hopping in to nab free shit from joel's vision

>>530921268
You should wait for them to log in (it's usually at the 15 minute interval marks) then ambush them to get all the blueprints they've been farming in all that time

After getting through the progression ladder as an indie I finally bit the bullet and went hark because I stand for the values of the Terran Republic, also since the few harks i ran into in DD behaved much more honorably than atriedebab zerglings

>>530924958
>also since the few harks i ran into in DD behaved much more honorably than atriedebab zerglings
Funny, it's been the complete opposite for me, but I'm in Europe.

>>530923908
I don't get how people feel safe enough to log out in the middle of a PvP area. Doesn't your character stay in the world for like 5m when you're not logging out in a safe area?

>>530925290
They are dumb and thing nobody will ambush them. But also they are right. If you can get one after he logs you'll have a big payday.

>32.5°C outside
>no airconditioning because Norway
>computer like a fucking space heater
Yep, it's time for Dune.

Well I made my tax haven cube and have destroyed my old base. Ain't much to do once you hit T5 that isn't just trying to grind together a few rocks to make items you'll never use.

>>530926013
My cpu hit 95 yesterday.

>>530925290
its a big desert and most people are shitscared of pvp and just want to loot

it's low risk high reward

>>530925290
If they go close to naked in a scout horni they risk exactly nothing even if full drop pvp is enabled.

>>530925183
>americans think the harkonen are the good guys
That checks out

What do you guys even spent your solari on? I haven't felt a need for anything other than unlocking base buildings/costmetics. I'm getting into T6 now and considering just buying the mats if money is worthless anyway.

>>530931247
I bought a unique schematic once but aside from that I just bank everything. I'm sure they'll release some stupid, arbitrary solari sink in a future patch

I am so fucking tired of the overworld map. Speak to this asshole in Arrakeen, now go to this asshole in Harko, and now back to basin just for a 3 sentence chat, and back to Arrakeen.

Motherfucker who designed this deserves the rope.

>>530931247
I'm saving up until somebody sells some T6 weapon schematics that aren't 2 million solari lasguns.

Where to build endgame base ?

>>530934959
Thereabouts.

>>530934959
Eastern shield wall is my choice. Close to crystals and the border. You can fly the rare times you want to go other places.

>>530881471
Use a sword like everyone who isnt a pussy

>>530934959
eastern shieldwall or the very north west in western vermillion

>>530899860
Its the first one
Ive never had to use more than 2 rockets to kill someone unless I missed or the game glitched out in some way

>>530899860
>Just looking for ANYTHING to try to counter these rocket kids when I'm trying to solo mine
There really isn't. The fact is, even if the shield could absorb some hits, you're not going to be using your shield while harvesting spice for obvious reasons.

And hoping that you can flick it on before a ganker's orni renders is dubious at best.

>>530934959
bottom left corner of Sheol like a man

>>530934959
Like, real endgame? Close to the edge of the map so you reduce travel time for your tedious weekly material shipping.

I started on Solatia for the 4chin guild but it disbanded. Now I want to restart from scratch, knowing I don’t want to PvP and farm peacefully in DD, should I go to a low population server or stay in Solaria ?

>>530940965
What's the difference between mk5 scout's glide speed vs the mk6 glide speed, assuming inactive booster/storage module, not rockets?

>>530940965
Solaria is one of the more active servers, if your really want you can switch to one with a quarter of its population.

Just look on https://dune.gaming.tools/server-status

>>530942523
goes from 170 to 180

I find that most of my gank deaths occur when I fly my thoper from node to node mining. I'll just be mining a node and boom, rockets.
I want to just park a mk4 (with mk6 wings) near an island mostly hidden, then just run around on foot mining and depoting back at the thopter. That way if they start rocketing the thopter, they don't hit me as I'm not near it. If they start shooting me, its easier to get away with shiggywire. I'd also instead keep a full mk6 with booster in my backup tool so if I do have to zipline away, I can drop it, hop in and boost away for safety.
Dumb idea? Kind of a sacrificial thopter

>>530947662
The longer you are out there and the more locations you visit, the more chance you'll run across someone. If you have a sacrificial horni already, wouldn't it just be more efficient to go balls deep to a big mining node and get in and out in a few minutes?

>>530948305
Well that's kinda what I mean. Drop the sacrificial thopter say, on the ground at one of the big titanium islands. Then instead of flying from node to node, just run node to node. I always die when I'm standing right next to the thopter mining and they rocket it, getting both me and the thopter. I'd rather they make the decision to go for one or the other because its easier to escape that way I feel

>>530947662
The best tactic is to wait until the devs patch out the garbage FFA PvP entirely

>>530948614
there really should just be pvp servers for those who want the full base raiding, bandit ambush experience.
honestly, the server I'm on is super chill, people in the deep desert just choose not to engage for the most part.

The closest I've come to an altercation is when I skirted too close to a control point, and an assault thopter took flight from next to it as a "hey fuck off" gesture, to which I obligingly fucked off.

>>530949520
mine is mostly cool in the morning until summerschool lets out. we've got a few people who run around in the afternoon constantly ganking and thumpering. It wouldnt be so bad if they weren't using aimbots and speedhacks, but they do so and even blatantly stream themselves doing it.

Just made it to DD, at what row PVP start?

>>530951882
halfway through E

If some dudes gank you next to a spice field but leave your thopter intact, how likely is it that they left your thopter alive so they could gank you again when you respawn on it?

>>530952713
very. Never respawn at it. They want you to respawn at it so they can fully destroy it and leave you to be eaten by the worm

>>530952713
Thump...thump...Thump...

>>530951882
Also keep in mind the crashed ships are PvP too. But they got good loot and are short.

>>530954789
Thank you. Yeah I just went to grab my thermoelectrics for my buggy cutteray mk5. Is it possible to carry 2 vehicules controller, 1 for orni and 1 for sandbike? I just wanna mad max bike DD bros....

gotta say orni controls are really fun!

>>530956105
Only one vehicle can be in your pocket dimension at any time. The vehicles are also limited, I believe it's just the buggy and the scout orni that can be stored.

The sandbike is not good for the DD. Not even for the PvE section. It's just too slow and there's too much verticality.

>>530956386
the bike*

definitely not the buggy

>ctrl+f Orni
>9+1 results
please
please call them thopters

>>530960107
horni thotters

Whoever told me to farm the testing stations in the doodoo desert, what the fuck is wrong with you

Expertly baited, I suppose. These things don't drop shit.

>>530960107
Feels like only about 15% of the thread read the book(s)
And that's gonna be comparatively high already compared to in-game or the subreddit or something
zoomers don't read

>>530960107
thopters doesn't really roll off the tongue

it's orni or horni, deal with it

>>530960107
>>530961849
omnicopter is both easy to say and sounds close enough

It's all so tiresome.

>>530964615
dupers being banned btw (lie)

Perhaps thopters should not be storable in the backup tool. Perhaps that’s both immersion breaking and imbalanced.

>>530891523
>>530891526
>>530891945

You are disingenuous faggots. The photo clearly shows house vehicle swatches that are not implemented in the release. No, they cannot be unlocked from the endgame content or Landsraad. The blue dasher swatch is from the Ultimate Edition.
If you played the game, you would know this.

>>530926013
After the client update 2nd week, my computer would overheat daily in this summer heat. Now I'm running low graphics and spreading out my play sessions like a brokenigger.

>>530967760
Maybe read the replychain before you sperg out, autist.

>be told the Landsraad grind is painful to do solo from friends and other players
>wasted a majority of my life playing WoW
>finished 3 in a day and about to do a 4th
>Currently gathering 600+ duraluminum to craft suspender shit for the 5th
The color swatches really need to have better variety. They are a bit sucky and its all the same dull colors but at least its a fun grind. I got nothing else to do except slowly chip away at DD plastinium/spice and making solari

>>530964615

>>530968486
Its funny anyone says that lansraad is for anything other than solo given that rewards are based on individual contribution.

>>530968741
They need to prioritize releasing the third faction so I can rock the boat without going Harko.

>>530968415
No.

>>530968486
600 enemy kills or so is a bit painful

>>530918861
That's awesome, it sounds like it would fit perfectly into Herbert's world. 1984 movie is not a perfect adaptation, but it has a lot of good stuff in there. The fan edit by Spicediver is very good,

>>530969605
Oh it definitely is but I'm just so used to shit grinds in other MMOs that I've grown accustomed to it. You just gotta abuse spawn rates and rotate around their main base. Listen to a background youtube video or audio book to entertain yourself as your brain turns off. I'm not looking forward to doing the atreides and hark troop ones since there aren't many places to kill them and they are in pvp zones

>>530961129
Those stations have a large box with blueprints at the end. Usually 3.
If you didnt find it that means someone logged in there and loots it by logging in every 45m or whatever and out

>>530898052
that's a lot of cope for not knowing how to play the game. everyone who's better than you is some minority who has wronged you. you must be so afraid.

Steel gear okay for electric worm place?

>>530978665
Should work, just be careful. Bring sniper if you can.

>>530979446
Never leave home with out it. I feel like this game has a bit of a stealth archer thing going on.

I've done everything I can in basin so I'm not exploring the beginnings of the DD. Sure is nice people can build houses around ore nodes.µ

Devs didn't have any foresight about people being dicks did they

>>530979736
From the sounds of things they were counting on it.

>>530979736
>>530979881
People being dicks was their Vision(tm). Then reality hit, and they realised the market for people enjoying having people be dicks to them is miniscule.

>>530979736
> building houses around ore nodes
Was not an issue when the DD was 80% pvp. Used to be your could just knock down the house.

>>530979736
Build a buggy shack 2 islands away from an ore-rich island. You'll have more ore than you'll want to transport\refine.

>>530981032
Wouldn't that just cause griefers to blow up the building. Or my buggy for that matter.

*mongolian throat singing*
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe...as long you both consent to PvP with normalized template gear in a 1v1 setting."

>>530981598
Make MK3 buggy + MK6 cutter. Take the cutter with you when you're done.
You mine x3 per node what you would get with a hand cutter. In 1 run you'd have 3 hrs worth of haul, and spend your time leisurely moving it to your safehouse.

>>530981598
>>530982820
I recommend building on the stravidium island, since the fun police usually hang around titanium. With how heavy titanium is, I just mine that by hand rather than build a 2nd buggy hut.
I go for titanium when people are being hit at the spice rings, and am sitting on 5k stravidium fibers right now.

>>530975453
everyone gets their own chests in testing stations
at least in the pve part

down 22k peak player pop from last saturday

86k peak concurrent players, we've got 4 weeks at this rate, probably closer to 8 weeks, before pops are sub 10k.

What's the plan, funcom?

>>530981956
Controlling the spice is for houses, the emperor, the spacing guild, the landsraad in general to deal with

it's not for some random dude on arrakis and his 10 man guild of tweakers. You don't even understand the setting you're talking about.

and it was foretold, the Lisan Al-Gaib will bitch a LOT, like a LOT, on 4chan

>>530985364
I don't think they have a plan.

>>530985364
honestly, most games can comfortably exist on a 'small' community of 5k-15k people
the problem is this game has no longevity for even smaller numbers like that, for reasons that have been regurgitated endlessly
>haha cope lole 5k
i play private servers for most games and 400-2k people is a surprisingly large number when you're actively engaging with most of them

>>530982820
>Paul and his son the ultimate hackers that are freinds with the devs to not get banned as long as their golden path attracts more viewers on stream

If you have to move stuff around from DD to hagga, wouldnt it be best to use carrier+buggy mk6 storage

>>530989069
You're not looking at this from the viewpoint of someone running a business.

You cannot pay salary for 500 devs, plus maintenance costs of your server infrastructure, and marketing, and your own fat bonus paychecks you don't deserve, if your playerbase is peaking at 500 concurrent per day.

The hundreds of thousands of dollars in overhead costs and paychecks just keeping the lights on every month necessitate a certain floor on the amount of people playing your game. You might be making $100k-$400k per year per 1000 concurrent players (5k - 20k unique players) with an ARPU of ~$20. I'd say a good ballpark is $100k per 1000 concurrent players.

Funcom with probably $20mil - $40mil in yearly expenses (nevermind paying off debt from investment, nevermind the necessary profit margin to make investors happy with returns from this beating ~6-8% avg in the stock market), needs upwards of 1 million unique players (~50k - 250k concurrent) JUST TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.

Now it definitely isn't their only source of revenue so it's not total corporate death if concurrent players drops under 50k in this game, but it's not looking good. Their choices are going to be - spend more money and invest more in the game, or start firing their devs to cut costs.

>>530991121
You can't - buggy can't transition between zones on the ground and carrier can't carry the buggy across zones either.

It's incredible how ineptly done the entire lategame is. This goes beyond "bad launch" and into "what the fuck have you been doing for 6 years?"

>funcom...funcom ur gonna fail
it's a swedish company, this was a massive success for them any way you slice it.

>>530993197
Norwegian.
Source: am Norwegian.

>fly over some control point or someshit by accident
>bunch of angry hornets lift off and shoot rockets in my general direction
jesus christ relax you fucking muppets

>>530993470
same thing

>>530993470
>Source: am Norwegian.
my condolences

>>530992475
>You're not looking at this from the viewpoint of someone running a business.
>You cannot pay salary for 500 devs
the game sold ten bajillion copies, where did all the money go?
why did they launch a live service 'MMO' with no subscription fee? i'd unironically pay some premium goy tax just to have a base set in stone and not having to play the obnoxious tax/fuel minigame

>>530993757
Swede: noun: Swede; plural noun: Swedes
An inhabitant of Sweden; a person of African descent.

>>530993910
>why did they launch a live service 'MMO' with no subscription fee?
Because they launched another survival sandbox and people can't understand it.

>>530993858
It's okay, at least I'm not a Swede.

>>530992475
Cheques already cashed and they gave up their freedom 5 years ago to Tencent (whom now use Funcom profits to send spies and buy up real estate for bribes in the states).
I thought I was buying one of he last US based games and IPs but didn't realize it was Chinese owned until I already supported it and now it's illegal internally to do anything about the hackers that happen to be in SEA or say anything about a good children's book series about a talking bear.

>>530994784
kek i wonder how fast you get banned if you do the tienamen square pasta in front of a chinese speedhacker

>>530993910
If they sold over a million they've probably cleared the dev costs for the game and made a net profit (also beating other investment options) I would hazard a guess at something like $30-$40mil expenses over 6 years for just dune, and profit from launch sales reaching ~$60-$90mil.

They SHOULD be in a good position financially, and if they cut and run from this game will make a tidy profit with very little fuss. The trouble is whether continued investment is worth it when player pop is dropping like a rock. Another $5-10mil invested over the next 2 years isn't good if it's just going into a black hole of a game with 10,000 concurrent players and making a fraction of that money back.

>>530995447
There are actually some really good aspects about the game, the story and PvE stuff and resemblance to Dune is among the best if not the most immersive you can get but those sorts of setup with stage and set pieces, acts and scenarios to animate and script out etc probably take a lot of time to make.
If they can get he ball rolling on a perpetual gameplay loop I'm sure they can have a high retention, people play TF2 or Skyrim to this day with thousands of hours dedicated to them so it's not uncommon to try make some sort of anchor with what they have already.

PvPers want to duel with eachother, constant engagement right there. PvE there's a strong base building to grow from, customization is in some capacity already. I don't have any real suggestions without requiring like a year of setup but some things are there already but maybe the paramaters can be shuffled around a bit to find something new.

>>530997405
They should rush npc convoys in the deep desert for pve players to raid.

>>530997405
>people play TF2 or Skyrim to this day with thousands of hours dedicated to them
due to mods and community servers - both of which are why conan exiles remains relatively active to this day as well
neither of which this game has, and probably will never have so long as they insist on the weird pseudo-mmo system

How do I collect personal contribution rewards for Landsraad?

>>530999386
Talk to the house rep wherever they are in hagga or the social hubs / DD before the weekly reset

now I don't feel bad about getting 3 of these in my H8 DD chest

>>530979736
>Devs didn't have any foresight about people being dicks did they
Devs still don't have a deposit all button for water, what do you expect

>>531000551
You sure the reset is meant to affect it? I had no internet for the last reset, and was able to collect rewards when I came back Tuesday night.

>pop some tranny running out of lab with 3x disruptors
>had 190k solari and 6 pincushion hats
>starts screeching about how cringe we are
good farmin, i'm up to 22 hats.

>>531007389
>22 hats
are you sure you're not the tranny?

>>531007389
adept or piters?
pincushion kinda sucks anyway
seems like T6 recipes are weighted for trash
got enough ix leggings and albatross mk6 to last multiple playthroughs

On the topic of t6.5 itemization
So far I've gotten
>pincushion +dart resist
+light and heavy dart, but it cancels out by being light armor since you lose the total armor mitigation, I guess in effect it's a dash stam buff while having the same dart resistance, kinda meh
>softstep, halves worm aggro
pretty nice to be able to walk around a spice field or shuttle wreck without caring too much, the -45% feels huge even though logically most of the threat should be coming from the compactor
>ix -10% dash stam
pretty great, just with the leggings you can get to a near neutral dash stam 1.4k mixed heavy/light armor set

then you have this shit
>circuit -10% energy usage
I didn't test it yet but I also have the engineer passive that gives -9% energy for 8 skill point investment. This one pair of gloves alone is better than a final skill and 8 skill points. Assuming they stack, and assuming they energy savings work on shield usage (haven't tested or see a definitive answer if that's the case, but logically it should), then this is head and shoulders above other stuff.


>>531006491
Not sure, just assumed. If rewards do roll over, then that's great and unexpectedly compassionate dev design from funcom

>>531007808
dart for every man, with focus fire they get permastaggered and die in like 2 seconds, dodge, staggered immediately.

>>530901487

HEROkonnens working hard to spoil this board for Agaydes.

chinese mexican hackerbros? our response?

last week Atreides owned every single tile.
every harkon player was either considering quitting or rerolling somewhere else and apologizing to their friends after convincing them to play on this deadass shitshow. i decided to make a guild when we didn't even have 5 on the list. then gave it our all with a few of my friends. we couldn't do any of the t6 stuff because we're only barely scratching at DD, nobody knew why this hell this 'line' lit up after thinking we had finally secured victory with 13 votes. turns out, buried in paragraph 4 of 11 in a hints infodump a hidden gotcha victory condition exists. none of us expected this, we all feel extremely cheated and demoralized.

>>531021273
>ultimate guild v guild endgame challenge where you're expected to blow thousands of plastinium, build vehicles, weapons, and advanced supplies at industrial-scale quantities, hunt hundreds of specific enemy types, in coordination with your faction across the werver
>hidden tic tac toe victory condition in the last minutes
you gotta be shitting me, joel's vision, lmao

The game has mostly positive reviews on steam, and mostly positive reviews by critics. They sold enough copies to pay off the costs of making the game for sure. My expectation is that they will trickle out the content they've promised so far to us, and by this time next year we'll probably have way more end-game content to explore. They won't "abandon" the game. The servers also don't cost them that much to run if they shut down over half of them eventually (which they will).

>>531023183
b-b-b-but the steam charts

>>531022665
Meanwhile on my server Atreides had a line within hours of the servers going up after reset and have, since, claimed the entire board just to add insult to injury.
I'm sure no cheating was involved and Joel's vision has been realized.

>>531026830
>Atreides had a line within hours of the servers going up after reset
How many hours anon?

>>531023183
They'll scale everything back and put a skeleton crew on the game. Probably like 20 devs or something max.

Might actually be what the game needs

>>531027346
They had a line when I logged in to make my deep desert base which was like 8 in the morning, in my timezone the server went down at 1.

yes, big guilds have bases spread across the map right in front of house turn-ins. welcome to week 1.

>>531027820
You do realize that's only possible if all 5 nodes revealed on the very first day were all in a line. Only 5 specific nodes are added each 24h.

>>531027929
You only turn in at your quartermaster retard.

>>531028136
You do realize you can bribe the npcs to tell you their requirement before they get revealed each day right?

>>531028246
How is that relevant to either of the comments I made in the post you linked?

Do I need to do the full assassin's handbook quest line to access buying from players on the black market

>>531028895
Here's your post again.
>>531028136
>You do realize that's only possible if all 5 nodes revealed on the very first day were all in a line.
You said it's only possible to win Landsraad on day one if all five revealed tiles are in a line, which is not true. I replied and corrected you. Now you're shifting goal posts.
Next time don't be a snarky faggot about a topic you doin't even possess basic understanding of.

>>531029201
Knowing what the houses will ask for doesn't change how many are available per 24h. Even if you knew what every single house was going to ask for you can only turn in items for the 5 that are made available each day / previous days.

Care to elaborate on why you think you would want a base near each house rep?

>>531026830
>>531021273
Harcucknens sneedthing.

cross-server battlegrounds doko...

My biggest issue with the game is that the T5 area isn't really the T5 area.
Sheol has no labs, it has minimal loot chests, most of the T5 schematics can only be found DD and many T5 recipes require DD parts.

In Hagga, progression basically stops at Shield Wall for those things. Sheol is basically a nothingburger.

what the FRICK is wrong with hygiene standards in arakeen these days??
uhh CHOAM?? Care to EXPLAIN YOURSELVES?

>>531020785
>my first pvp experience
>we had no pvp and it was amazing
>not even tension from maybe getting pvp
Also a new meta is apparently forming where solo andys are treated as second class when they roll up with their compactors and guilds with crawlers chase them off.

>>531045702
>new meta
That's been happening since the first week.

>>531021273
we did almost exactly the same thing on my server. greens won last few weeks, this week we tried, and actually pissed away 600 spice unlocking two of the tiles. we were way ahead as reds, but they got on at new tile unlock time, and almost got a row to win, but the blocking tile was a hand in one and i guess they ran out at 50k worth.

>>531046150
But now pve players have their needs met and this is their new thing to complain about.

>>531048563
We'll never be done complaining until the entire DD is PvE or there are separate servers

>>531048563
>>531049365
Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight(between PvEers and PvPers) but even I can see that the implementation of PvP in this game was terribly executed. Nary a hint of it throughout the entirety of Hagga Basin and lots of emphasis on the conflict between Atreides and Harkonnens and then boom, full factionless PvP outta nowhere. It just doesn't make sense.

>>531049558
V I S I O N

???
why tho?

>>531050313
Because they don't know that the decree is bugged and only applies to the first and last refine in a stack. If you refine 100 plastanium, 98 at them will go at normal speed.

>>531050460
i really wanted those circuit or whatever gloves on the armour vendor. i'll be donating to the enemy next time, at least they won't fuck up the voting.

>>531050460
I will manually craft only two at a time.

>>531049558
Yes but now it's just terribly implemented everything and we are dangerously close to no pvp at all.

>>531051470
That may honestly be a better solution until they get their act together and design a PvP mode/area/whatever that is actually fun and rewarding.

Is there any Euro public server without Russians?

>>531053962
Sadly no, they're fucking everywhere.

>>531053962
What did the Russians do this time?

Not racist, just don't like 'em

>>531054129
))

>>531054171
My guess is, usual Russian shit. You can always tell when they've infested a server.

>DISCOVER a shifting desert that offers infinite exploration. Coriolis storms reshape the Deep Desert, turning familiar ground into treacherous, unknown territory. Every week, players race to be the first to uncover new locations, dangers, and rewards.
Will YOU be the first to uncover new locations and rewards in the Deep Desert?

>>531062567
>tiny map
>same locations every week but with slightly altered resource nodes/loot
>sinkcharts worthless because everyone knows what they need only spawns further in anyway
I applaud your vision Joel

>>531063459
Okay, I see that didn't land, but check THIS out:
>PVP is always optional. Participate in major ground-and-air battles in the Deep Desert or support the efforts from behind the frontlines through PvE activities like crafting to secure power in the Landsraad. Play politics and make decisions that impact the whole server.

>>531065353
>Play politics and make decisions that impact the whole server.
ugh, it's even stated in-game to that affect when it's untrue
>>531062567
>turning familiar ground into treacherous, unknown territory
you know in China they pay for their internet usage by the hour?
their MMOs are balanced around traversing large empty land to waste as much time as possible and jack up cafe internet bills

>>531066675
They also pay for their MMO subscriptions by the hour.

What if they made the DD pve but also way more dangerous? Im talking about sandstorm dealing 3x damage to your base, sandworms jumping out of the sand to get thopters (sandstorm radiation forcing you to fly at a max altitude of like 500 feet), sunstroke dealing raw HP damage as well as water damage ect ect...

>>531062567
Oh boy let me get my binoculars and sink charts so I can scout all the cool stuff

>>531074109
Sandworms in the DD shouldn't breach at all. They should simply home in on you so the moment your gauge turns red you really need to GTFO instead of just leasurely picking up the remaining 4 spice piles before you casually fly off. Or maybe there simply shouldn't be a guage at all and you'd need to deploy a thumper far away first.

>>531074109
wow more thopter-centric design for my thopterdune: orniwakening videogame! i love flying! i'm fucking thoptering!!!!

>>531074109
fuck the DD, give hagga activities and expand upon it but we know its just going to be new regions you have to fly to so Hagga becomes a desolate place people only speedrun through to get out off

>>531074168
whooooa WHOAAAA WAIT
THIS PREFABBED ROCK ISLAND HAS A... A CAVE IN IT?
AND THE CAVe, get this
HAS THREE ENEMIES IN IT AND A CHEST

>>531076125
If you're lucky it has FOUR enemies and another, "hidden" chest that's literally just up on a ledge.

>>531074109
If it's just PvE then everyone just flies an assault with cargo. Doesn't matter if the sun does hp damage, you can stock bandages in your assault. And water. And a radiation suit.

>be farming titanium in the doodoo
>some dummy in a buggy races towards me
>tries to run me over
>shigawire myself over the cliffs
Kek. Never thought I'd see a fucking buggy in a low density spot in the desert

>>531077074
I always thought it'd be funny to make some technicals w/ friends and just drive around shooting people but I know some sweaty faggot in an orni would ruin our fun in minutes.

>>531077310
i too thought the game could benefit from some combined arms gameplay which is widely regarded as pretty fun to do. looks like the game had the foundation for such a thing

oh well
*floats 20 minutes tapping w and s in the faggot bugplane*

>>531074109
what about getting a few rocket thopters in hagga, and shoot at that big ship that goes past sometimes, and it spawns a small raid type boss or encounter in the crashed ship for pve people. give it good rewards, similar to dd stuff, bit of spice, maybe some skins or something. hard enough for a group of 3-5 people to be challenged.

i'm reading a lot of what ifs but what is realistically going to happen now?

everyone should be basically post scarcity now even for spice and plastanium, and even blueprints. the DD now serves absolutely no purpose
the landsraad house swatches being for each individual type of armor is cancer too so i guess nobody will have all 3 of every house yet but does anyone even fucking want them

>>531078630
I suspect people will at best farm up a bunch of spice malange to be ready for future patches and then eventually stop playing if the devs don't add a true endgame anytime soon. Which will not happen because lolfuncom.

>medium spice field
>me and some dude land as soon as it pops
>neither of us have rockets
>
>he drops a thumper and leaves
Even the PvE players are dicks

>>531080440
i've been thumpering normal sandblows in hagga just to fuck with people
what else is there to do really

>>531080440
molded by Joel's vision

>>531076567
Simple fix, make sandstorms more common so you can't just fly around casually in a carrier, you need to actively know where you're going. Make it like a 10 minute window between sandstorms.

>>531081935
>Make it like a 10 minute window between sandstorms.
That's a fucking awful idea and I'm glad you're not a gamedev.

>>531081935
making things more annoying is not the way to go about this

Solo rat here. I finally mined and refined some plastinium. What's the best thing to use it on first? Mk 6 horni wings for more speed to outrun gankers?

>>531074416
There shouldn't be a gauge, you should have to watch for worms nearby. Your gauge should be the sound of a worm, the sand being kicked up by it moving around, and the static lightning around it. Have your friend in an orbiting thopter warn you when a worm is close, check with binos from a tall sand dune to check if worms are nearby, and if you mess up and one of them is, it eats you with no breaching and no warning.

they implemented sandworms in the dumbest possible way and the game is never going to be fun playing around them until they change that decision.

I too find the implementation of sandworms fangless, they do not feel threatening at all, they feel dopey and retarded.

I was thinking about getting this game and came here to gauge people's opinions over it. Is it worth picking up?

>>531084682
>What's the best thing to use it on first?
unique lasgun or homing missile to buttfuck scouts when they get up in your business

>>531088261
It's great until you reach the 100 hour mark or so but endgame and pvp is seriously lacking.

I thought buildings in the PvP section of DD became vulnerable for a few minutes after a sandstorm? I was taking cover behind a cuckbox and figured since I'm here I might as well loot it so I tried cutting out a wall (tarl cutterray) but even after 5 times depleting my power it still hadn't broken the wall. What gives?

>>531084682
You can already outrun gankers even with MK 5 wings. If they really are out to kill you, they'll spam rockets on you while you're harvesting spice.

>>531088261
It's a themepark game, basically a solo experience for 60-100 hours worth of content, none of it difficult or challenging. I don't think it's worth picking up in its current state unless that's all you want. For $15, sure. But it's ~$70 depending on country and it's just not worth that price tag.

And especially don't buy it hoping they fix or improve anything. Like 1 in 20 companies ever manage to do that. Treat this game as what you see is what you get. It's a mediocre themepark ride with unchallenging mechanics and pretty much exclusive solo play until you reach the deep desert where it then flips over and becomes the stupidest multiplayer griefer/gankfest you've ever seen in a multiplayer game, and no tools to get you into any sort of group as a solo player so you'll be permanently at their mercy until you start browsing outside the game and looking for groups on discord.

Expect: Survival mechanics that you stop caring about 15 minutes into playing, lots of tedious back and forth quests where you fight enemies for 5 minutes and then travel across the map for 40 minutes, over and over and over. Farming mats to build better machinery to build better parts, none of which you actually need or care about as they just become higher number buff items rather than meaningfully unlocking new gameplay mechanics, and of course FFA PVP that's as toxic and uninviting as it's possible to be, with people griefing your thopter into worms, ganking you 4vs1 if you try to grab loot from a shipwreck, shipwrecks that are permalooted because people log out in them and set timers for the loot respawn and then respawn grab and log off again, and PVP across the desert being 99% thopters shooting rockets at each other or at defenseless seals on the ground with no way to defend themselves from it.

>>531089071
What makes you think a cutteray, made for breaking down solid structures, would be the correct tool for destroying enemy structures? You obviously need the lasgun for that, because PvP bricks are made from material strong enough to withstand cutterays made to harvest the materials they are built from. Get with The Vision, fucker. You very clearly have not earned to engage with PvP, you need to grind for full Tier 6 gear first.

>>531089974
this fucking game

>>531087837
They start feeling threatening once you realize that there are several bugs that make escaping from them impossible.

>>531089071
You need to use weapons to damage vulnerable structure. Ideally a lasgun or rockets that deal with it quickly, but every weapon should work.

>>531089974
>>531090353
>>531090414
The worst part is that cutterays and lasguns use the EXACT SAME TECH, lasguns are just beefed up versions of it.

>>531088261
>>531089891
Disregard salty fucking retarded posts like this and do your own research. The devs have released a roadmap for upcomming content that addresses all the shit this autistic faggot brought up in his stupid rant. He will now, without doubt, really to me with some worthless fucking strawman argument thinking I give two shits what he thinks or feels about anything. This thread is full of pissed off discord trannies and redditors.

>>531044567
He's just visiting the bank and then probably paying his taxes, anon.

>>531091383
>x is bad
>NOOOOO the devs are trying to address some of the concerns in the future because noone could have anticipated any of their ideas being stupid you're wrong
Yeah, I guess we shouldn't complain about anything because the devs have concepts of a plan to fix it after the fact. I concede

>>531091383
>roadmap

is conan any good?

>>531091383
>posts roadman strawman to defend devs
>doesn't even try to pretend the issues aren't exactly as presented
>preemptive ad hominem, accusing others of strawmanning before they say something
Mental illness. Why do you defend companies? Are you a Funcom fan? Do you think they will suffer for their mistakes? What's your play here?

>>531092296
tastes of salty coins

>>531091383
>roadmap
huh? where?

>>531092296
The only thing I know about it is my erp friends play it and they do a lot of erp so I suspect it's an erp game

>>531091383
>the roadmap
may I see it

>>531088261
fuck no
t. 200 hours, hated 100

>>531088261
Depends on what you are looking for.

If you are looking to occupy your time for a few weeks with decent (not spectacular) single player gameplay in a Dune setting, and the pricetag seems fair to you, go get it. Even most faggots that hate and reviewbomb the game played it on average for 60-100+ hrs after all.

If you are looking for a lasting pvp/pve MMO with a captivating endgame look elsewhere, or wait to see if devs are able to salvage the pretty much flawed beyond repair endgame loop they created. Being funcoom I doubt they will.

>>531092478
you can speculate on the psychology of people like that faggot forever. it is an enigma, i have never cracked the code. product is indistinguishable from themselves, criticize the product or the company and you've criticized them.

retards say people are paid to post on the internet, and it would make sense to be like roadmapfaggot if he was paid, but i don't believe he gets a fucking cent for his service. truly bizarre

>>531088261
i rather enjoy it, yeah. currently doing dd stuff, my server is really quite chill tho. i've never even been hit with a rocket, just a warning shot near me. my friend has been shot at and hit by a rocket when he was flying an assault doing mining, but he trivially out-ran the rocket scouts

This made me laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQm05Caoi7Y

Where do I get that lasgun that everybody's talking about? Is it a unique schematic from the desert?

>>531099532
I found it by accident in one of my storage containers. I don't even know how or where I got it from. Maybe a hacker flew into my base and gave it to me for a laugh.

>>531099532
You get one from the quest at the Crossroads Trading Post in Hagga for turning in a MK6 cutterray. Otherwise, yes, you get the blueprints from the DD.

>>531101048
It's definitely not something you can unlock in the research tree and the schematic costs 300k on the auction house on my server.

Whats the broke-ass alternative to break down bases quickly? The vulcan gun?

>>531088261
200 hour, but I will start over, my character is ugly.

>>531101902
Are you sure?

Think back to the quests. Are you REALLY sure you want to do that all over again?

How often do you relocate your main base? I just got my ornithopter and spent an ungodly amount of time autistically transferring my shit from southern hagga rift to mysa tarill

>>531075186

Good, the whole Basin to myself.

Is it just me or are bases incredibly underbaked? Right now they are just overly complicated crafting stations and storage sheds. Let us put npc vendors or something in them at least fuck its embarrassing referring to these glorified homesteads as a 'fief'.

>>531108549
I like building stuff, but in terms of gameplay I think they are actually a net negative for the game.

>>531106232
first basic bitch base in tutorial area
first real base around aluminum/iron
final base close to edge of map to cut down on travel time for deep desert shipping

>>531091383
>lol
>lmao even

>crashed ship 10 feet from rock island
>jump onto top hatch to grab some loot
>jump off to the side
>start rubber banding so horribly i literally cannot move
>unstuck doesn't work
>get eaten by worm

Okay, never touching one of these again. Got it.

>>531097849
okay that was pretty good

>>531114825
shiggy diggy wire can get you out 90% of the time

>>531115343
it cancelled the cast, even tried dindu sprint too

>>531114825
Never jump on top of these death traps. Cut the smallest panel on the side and loot that from the ground, and only that one. If it can't be reached, try with your suspensor. Never try to climb these pieces of shit.

>>531106232
Twice. Once from tutorial zone to iron zone, once from iron zone to aluminum zone.

>>531115770
The top has the best loot

>>531114825
Put your suspension belt into your inventory before landing. Even a split second of its use will dramatically increase the worm attraction. Without it, just walking/jumping you'll find it takes forever for a worm to come to you.

>>531117170
sounds like Big Worm propaganda to me bitch

>>531117170
If you're dead you're not getting any loot.

>>531117895
>>531118332
See >>531117265

I've never had an issue with it, take your belt off, land on top, shoot it, fly away

>people have trouble getting on top of the ships
what are you guys talking about
i must have done that 100 times
panel on one side, climb, panel on top, get in thopter and fly to other side so you don't get wormed, 3 and done, leave. this is 1 thing that DIDNT glitch for me

>>531118643
they fucked it up in one of the recent patches and you have a significant chance of just rubberbanding all over the ship while being unable to let go

>>531118765
oh
something else got made worse somehow by them again?
well i believe you

>>531114825
>Land on top of the ship to harvest the upper panel
>fly two feet onto the left and harvest that
>fly back over to the other side and harvest that
>if too high clinb on top of thopter and hover next to the ship to cut/loot
I just pretend that touching the ship with my hands will kill me.

DOON
or
DYOON

>>531119285
>fly
>and hover
It's like you're TRYING to bait the worm.

>>531119843
Hovering with the suspensor belt does absolutely nothing visually to the worm'd meter on my end and I have never struggled with harvesting all 3 panels before a worm shows up. It's basically a fine art as I can strip down the ship in like 20 seconds now.

>>531119843
>Shai-Hulud at computer.jpg>>531119843

>>531120038
The wormsign indicator is in no way an accurate measurement.

>>531121180
Nah it's fine. use the hover as much as you like. Nothing bad will happen, trust me.

>>531121415
notsureifshaihulud.jpg

>>531119285
>Land on top of the ship to harvest the upper panel
>immediately begin spazzing out right round baby right round around your thopter
what now

>>531049558
>>531051470
Actually people are just PvPing, and gathering

>>531121649
I saw that reddit clip too, he jumped instead of pressing E, then never pressed ctrl to let go.

>>531126168
ctrl doesnt work, only shigawiring out of it or running out of stamina

>>531126253
I mean his mouseover literally showed press E to enter vehicle, and did not. Just jumped and flailed around til a worm ate him.

>>531126353
The prompt shows up, but you can't do shit about it.
>t. have had the same bug too, thankfully not in an emergency situation

Love the game, but have some big criticisms

>Try to immerse yourself? Hundreds of shitty hoboshacks scattered all over the place
>No truly cooperative experiences outside spice harvesting, very lonely game
>Difficulty in PvE is mindless, no need for friends, which is ok in most places, but not all
>PvP is 90% Ornicopter, 10% everything else. That isn't the point of Dune, combat should be very personal and close range.

And yeah, I have 150 hours in it already.

>2x bashars 2x salusian vengance
yep, that's a good drop

>>531126972
the amount of just flying my orni on autopilot must be like 98% of my time in the DD, pvp or not

>>531114825
>be funcom
>have a game called conan with jumping, climbing, rubberbanding bug
>years go by
>never ever patch the bug

>release new game
>the bug is in your new game too
>makes some gameplay mechanics outright useless/impossible because of how bad and buggy it is
>over a month in and still this bug isn't patched

I suspect this jumping climbing rubberbanding bug will exist for the rest of the game's life, because nobody at this company is competent nor cares.

I'd bet there are zero players who have played for more than an hour that do not have at least a single point in trooper for the grappling hook. It's an autotake. way too good as is. no point in even making it an option.

>>531131794
>mfw you get 200 skill points
>0 restrictions as to which abilities to invest in
>to switch between active sets of abilities you have to entre the menu
Ability bars were too complex of a concept to copy from MMOs. I'm assuming devs are now baffled by players requesting this, and will obviously soon release a roadmap detailing how they will incorporate this outlandish feature into the game by 2040.
I'm getting bitter reading people defending this shit

You got to admit though the game is pretty

>>531133295
>incorporate this outlandish feature into the game by 2040.
sorry billy, too complicated for console players
hourly reminder every kneecapped "why is this missing/so watered down/outright retarded" feature in this game is because they're designing around console release

consolenigger subhumans should be killed, in order to improve the general genepool

>>531134121
wow that definitely looks like every other unreal engine game on the market, i'm clapping and upvoting (this is beautiful)

somebody shiddied their diapers they're so mad. they're taking away all the shit on earth. what is he going? shiiddy diapy 3?

>>531134231
oh I see

PC was just the open alpha test for the console beta release

>>531134939
Yes LOL it is like that because you can't equip 12 abilities!!!! So true!!! Dune is like this!!!!!!!!!! So much this!!!!!!!

>>531135179
You can tell it's like that from just the UI design and how stupidly simple so many of the mechanics are, as if they were built for retards, which they evidently were.

fallout 1/2 esque random encounters and discoveries on world map travel doko...

>>531135179
>add ability bars
>can only switch ability bars when all three abilities are on cooldown or have slot cooldowns carry over across bars
I'm assuming you're trying to introduce the strawman of me requesting 12 abilities to be available at the same time, but I was very clearly talking about a UI change, not access to 12 abilities simultaneously. It should be easy to implement access to more than one ability set without having to go to the menus. Many games have figured it out.

>>531135471
You will chase the same spice blow texture and the same static shipwreck model and you will be happy about it.
Don't like it? Go to the PvP map for slightly larger versions of the generic spice field model and an epic much larger version of the same generic spice field model, but this one has a different worm animation!

>>531136131
>it's clearly there to balance and not let you swap on the fly no matter your point investment
>i want to swap on the fly whenever i want so i never get assrammed in PvP with my PvE mobility build!
yeahhhhh. nah.

>>531062567
>a shifting desert
Is it, though? What exactly is shifting here? Do we get different rock islands or is it just the loot rotations and resource nodes?
>treacherous, unknown territory
What the fuck are they talking about?
>New dangers and rewards
What did they mean by this?

>>531134376
Damn, and you can't even get a job lmao

>>531136552
>>531136552
>it's clearly there to balance and not let you swap on the fly no matter your point investment
What the fuck are you talking about? It's standard practice to switch abilities, and you can unlock every ability. Why would the devs allow you to waste points on abilities they don't want you to use, especially if there's a respec function?
Are you saying going into my abilities and switching them out – WHICH THEY IMPLEMENTED A COOLDOWN FOR – is an unintended exploit? I fucking hate you and you are either stupid or a retarded rage baiter.

>>531136552
Are you aware you can currently only swap out abilities that are on cooldown, meaning the devs must have thought about this and want to allow ability swaps? Are you aware that literally every PvP player is currently swapping abilities on the fly?

>>531137782
>>531137567
>poster A says there is a cooldown
>poster B says there is no cooldown

When swapping abilities that are on cooldown, you get a notification that you can't do that, until the skill is off cooldown. If there's a way around it, yes it would be an exploit. Are you intentionally being retarded?

>>531137913
>strawmans something about 12 abilities available simultaneously
>hey, there's a limitation to how swapping works, meaning it's intended, how about we streamline the UI around those limitations?
>OOOH MY GOOOOOOOD ARE YOU RETAAARRRRRR
You seem upset, and your reading comprehension fucking sucks

>>531137028
The treacherous, unknown territory and new dangers and rewards are players attacking you and loot you get from them. You see the devs are outsourcing content to what they hope will be organic pvp gameplay.

>>531139572
You want to swap abilities at the press of a button. this is on the fly. They won't do it. I'm telling you why. You are failing to comprehend. I am correct and absolute. It is in fact, you, who are mad, angry, feeling, disgruntled. You are feeling human emotion! English? Is this guy ESL? I don't understand him.

>>531140174
You can currently swap abilities on the fly. You must open a menu and swap them out manually, but you can do that in combat, while mid air, with half stamina, low power. The only prerequisite is for the ability to be on cooldown. People are using this as a way to swap between abilities on the fly to utilize more than three abilities in an encounter. I want this exact capability with the same limitations to be accessible without having to access the menu. Why is this an unreasonable ask?

>>531140391
>You must open a menu and swap them out manually
Yes, this is not on the fly. You must stop, open the menu, and swap it all manually. Thank you.

>>531140626
What do you mean by that? I want to retain the ability to switch between abilities without having to leave combat. This is currently very possible, and just for simplicity's sake – the video posted >>531097849 shows how the guy does this mid air in PvP. To my understanding, that is on the fly, but I don't mind using a more precise definition. I want the mechanical capability to swap between abilities whenever they are on cooldown to be made more accessible. Please explain to me why that is unreasonable. Do you think putting this ability in a menu is a good way to make the game more skillbased? Is menu navigation during combat a skill you want to express in this game?

>>531141012
When a mouse advertises on the fly DPI switch, it means you click a button and it swaps. That's on the fly. I see where your ESL confusion is coming in. You think because he's flying in an airplane, it's on the fly. That's not what that English expression means. If there's any other English expressions that are confusing to you, just ask instead of attempting to attribute your own definitions to phrases and words that already have dictionary defined definitions. Perhaps ask an AI chatbot to assist you.

If anyone at the end of tier 5 is thinking of abandoning your base, putting stuff in the bank and retiring to one of the social hubs for awhile, your bank is 30 slots/1500v. Three adv death stills, two large cisterns, a medium ore refinery, and the parts for a mining buggy come out to 20 slots and 1250v. I can give the materials breakdown if anyone wants them. Anything other than that (beyond your personal equipment, perhaps a bit of fuel) would be a matter of convienence for you.

>>531141282
>further strawmanning, with some ad hominem thrown in
Go fuck yourself

>>531141357
The person having accessibility issues because he doesn't want to navigate UIs making fun of controller-friendly designs is never not funny. Perhaps it's time to learn to use a controller so that menu skill expression doesn't impede you, rather than asking the game to be changed for you in a specific way.

>>531141282
>on the fly means pressing one button
Should have consulted a dictionary. Or maybe an AI chatbot.

>>531141619
>unironically using the term 'menu skill expression
So this is why introducing ability bars is not acceptable for you?
Also, I haven't mentioned controllers or consoles a single time, that was someone else. I don't care why the game has shit UI, I just want it to be better.

>NOOOO the game doesn't suck there is a ROADMAP
>NOOOOO the game doesn't suck clunky UI is meant to cater to elite players
Where the fuck did these people come from?

>>531141793
There is obviously an advantage you'd like without having to utilize the means to do it. You pointed to the video, you talked about skill expression. It's a balance feature.It's by design. If you want to do it, swap in menu.

>>531141975
/v/ troon meltdown in real-time right here guys, negative review score soon.

>>531142069
Thanks for answering my question, only took 30 minutes of angrily posting at each other. I guess I just feel like locking the option to swap out abilities in the menu only makes it tedious instead of actually impacting the 'balance'. It's similar to how I would like the building tool to not take up a hotbar slot. It's just inconvenient, nothing more, nothing less.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GFa5Pg0G1PI
i dunno about people talking about ornithopter PvP, seems holding a testing station results in endless pvp encounters from people rushing back from respawn beacons/checkpoints.

>>531141975
pretty sure it's like 2 dudes and one of them is the sperg with fantasies of raping people in wow

possibly they are also devs or marketers for the game

>>531145836
It's all part of the vision

DD chat is so full of drama queens holy fuck I hate pvpniggers so god damn much

>>530901487
Fondak 3.0
Went from an Atreides\Brutalist military garrison to this. Hoping the next Faction is smugglers.

>>531146481
and the people that hate the game, crosspost from reddit and /v/ and twitch and youtube without ever posting screenshots of the game itself, downtalking the company and CEO like it's a blizzard game and everyone's out for Jo-el, having racist meltdowns and PvE fantasies, those are the real players.

>>531148646
>having racist meltdowns and PvE fantasies
I do this but I also play the game

Some tranny in my DD server was going on about how Frank Herbert was an idiot for not considering parasols as a solution to every problem in the Dune universe. Typical stuff like "oh, only a straight male wouldn't think of something as simple as a parasol" and "Clearly, only straight men worked on Dune." Bunch of stuff about how middle eastern countries are idiots for not using parasols too.

They went on with it forever. I was out there for like two hours, flew back to Hagga, went and had lunch, and by the time I got back, they were still on about it, posting paragraph after paragraph. It seemed like everyone else gave up on trying to argue that direct sun exposure is not the cause of every problem on Arrakis because nobody else was saying a word by that point.

Or they just ran off everybody, which I guess is a fair tactic to getting the entirety of DD all to yourself.

>>531149985
>paragraph after paragraph

>>531149985
parasols probably work great when temps are in the 90s-100s range and it gives your body a chance to regulate temps. not so much when it's Arrakis sitting at a blistering 150f, much greater than Death Valley's peak of 134f. even without direct sunlight you're looking at only a few minutes before your core heats up enough to stroke out.

>>531148646
I don't hate the game, I'm still playing, and I will ridicule people going to war online for devs or companies any day of the week.

>>531148646
You're a genuine nutjob

>>531147696
I like listening to them go off in chat

it's like a personal radio station drama, and new every day

>>531145836
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GFa5Pg0G1PI
Who is this faggot, I've heard this voice speak with unearned authority before, here he is struggling to stay alive with several people protecting him, whining about the fact he might die and trying to blame rubberbanding or some shit. What a pathetic loser, why are streamers like this?

>>531145836
What else are the PVPers supposed to do? Patrol resource islands for an hour?

>>531159060
looks like it's the group complainer talking in vc, but the main player/recorder/streamer is someone else

You know I can deal with all the bullshit ganking and whatnot in the DD but they really need to fucking fix people logging off at the final chest in a dungeon. I'm fucking sick and tired of fighting my way through a ship and the final chest being empty.

How fucking hard is it to force people to spawn at the entrance of a wreck?

>>531167383
sorry chump, gameplay has been meta'd out of the game. i WILL camp chests. i WILL not fire a single shot. you will NOT find me because the game is jank and i can sit under the world.

>>531167863
I even stayed for 30 minutes watching the chest from behind some boxes. Didn't see anyone but chest also didn't respawn.

Guess it doesn't respawn if someone is around the wreck.

>>531167863
actually you won't even believe the shit i can do but i am NOT telling you because faggots will tell on me. yah you can be in walls, floors, can't shoot through them though but you can come and go as you like

>>531168173
how would we tell on you when we dont know your username, dumdum

>>531168340
nyo it will get fixed probably and i will have to go back to logging out while climbing up a wall like a house spider or something dumb!

btw look up when ur looking for people if u aren't already

>>531168907
>it will get fixed probably

I'm kind of surprised there aren't any hobo shacks near the massive titanium deposits. Like, none.

Can you not build there?

>>531168131
It has to be that. Some other guy said he was waiting in front of the chest for over 90 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lorktS9beWk

>>531169582
in the PVP area bases can be destroyed by other players for 6 minutes after a sandstorm hits them. So unless people keep building them they get taken down in short order. Aslo, such shacks are built to harass players in the PVE zone, where the deposits are sparse

>>531171701
My idea would be to put up a hobo shack and some chests to just stockpile the ore and then before a sandstorm hits pull it all out to my actual base.

Bunny, Valby, Gley, or Sharen to build next?

>>531172101
Oops, wrong general. Dune soon tho.

>>531171957
oh, in that case it Monday. Weekly wipe is about to happen and a lot of people pull out of the DD on Sundays to make sure they have their stuff out in time/have time to do it on a weekend.

>>531172101
Haven't played in a few months, but Valby was pretty good back then and not a lot of hard work.

>>531084682
You'll need a mk 6 cutterray for a quest in basin. Pretty sure that requires about 50 or 60 plast, and you'll get a good weapon out of it to wreck buildings and vehicles in PvP if that's your thing.

Its my first week in the deep desert. How does the corriolis work? Is it just instant death when it starts or can you still move about and loot other people's shit?

>>531174810
the "apex" of the storm is when the actual wipe happens. In NA, it will be at 0500 CDT tomorrow (a bit over 23 hours from now). However, the winds start to gradually ramp up through the day, until they are at Hagga sandstorm level, making it diificult to do anything after a certain point before the apex hits.

>>531175554
Hagga also gets hit, for a couple of hours around the apex it's impossible to do anything because visibility is fucking zero.

>>531173517
does it have to be a full health mk6 or can I use it a bunch then turn it in?

>>531176010
full, i believe. The lasgun you get back is actually the cutteray you turn in with modifications.

>>531176010
it needs to be pristine, I think it's even mentioned in the description

>>531178086
iirc pristine meant no permanent repair damage and you can die holding it and still turn it in

>>531178703
lol yeah I suppose that makes sense because funcom

I finally understand why this game's launch is such a shit show.

They're staggering the release schedule - PC launch, iron out the bugs for the real launch on console with the meat of the content. It's got a console UI because it's a console first game and the PC is just for beta testing. That's also why there's no modding - they need to keep the codebases as similar as possible to reduce the headaches in versioning. So no PC UI, no PC modding, this game is all about the console experience.

All the signs are there. When the game sells even better on console it's going to be the only thing they cater to and for. The game will be built around console player issues and nobody will give a shit what the PC version of the game is like. It's not even the real game version and who cares if there's dupes or whatever, the real release is on console.

I now understand, the spice has granted me Joel's vision.

Is this your new angle after trying to claim hordes of third world minority children are tearing your anus to pieces and realizing they can't afford PCs to run this game?

What 'new angle', schizo? Console release is slated for 2026, this PC release is the alpha test to iron out the mechanics and get all the content polished for the big console release.

>>531182872
>>531171687
Whenever you purchase the game, someone made a nice tutorial for you, don't have another tranny meltdown paragraph spam moment, okay?

lots of schizo's in this general

it's funcom, everything that's happening is standard operating procedure

>>531185068
Tell me more about funcom's standard operating procedure

>>531185217
tldr release diamond in the rough and then never polish it

>Fly to hagga from town/DD
>spawn in the middle of a sandstorm
What do you do in this situation?

>>531188383
Pocket thopter and bindu sprint to nearest rock

>>531188660
Can't pocket an assault.

>>531188925
I guess either eat it or fly back out

>>531188383
I use Storm Tracker so never had that problem.

>>531188925
get in the assault as a passenger; you'll take relatively minimal damage to the thopter when it's not flying and be sheltered inside

>>531190146
You're just trying to get him trapped with the assault passenger bug, aren't you.

Am I the only one who has been having a legitimately fun time in PvP?

>>531191980
No, there are plenty of other idiots out there.

>>531191980
this game's PVP is almost as dry as eve online's

Quite simply, nobody likes ganks or griefing except gankers and griefers and even they start bitching immediately once they're on the receiving end - and this game's problem is that the PVP is designed around ganking and griefing entirely, instead of interesting let alone fair matchups between players that both sides can actually enjoy or even participate in.

4vs1 ambushes in shipwrecks or 8vs1 thopters vs some spice farmer is plain and simply shit PVP design, full stop.

>>531191663
>You're just trying to get him trapped with the assault passenger bug, aren't you.
I've never heard of that bug before; I've sheltered in the co-pilot seat due to a similar circumstance. Situationally I don't think there's anything else you can do besides pray it's almost over or die to the sandstorm if it's not.

>>531194356
stilletnt

>>531191980
PvP is fine when it's consensual
the new -> mid player experience is a ghost town due to end-game structure, not once did i run into another player in a shipwreck
in DD you're locked into small rooms for ages and open yourself to being gang raped while already having a train ran on you
>just make friends!
yeah, wouldn't that of been a neat possibility for the last 100 hours

>>531193404
>griefing based multiplayer experience
almost gta 5 levels of bad, at least the griefers are rewarded in this game!

>>531194592
>the new -> mid player experience is a ghost town due to end-game structure
Not just end game structure but the structure of it in general.

deep desert can have ~500 players in it, your sietch can do ~60, and on a high pop active sietch that means at any typical moment there's only 5-15 other people active, across 9x9km; so not only are there absolutely zero tools to group up and play with people in your sietch (already evidently against the griefer/ganker game designer preference) but you're almost never going to run into someone anyway. Especially with ~500m render distance for vehicles and ~200m (less?) render distance for people on foot.

But it makes more sense when you realize: >>531181560
They have no mechanics for grouping players together because they're expecting you to use xboxlive friend requests and the like. The game was designed wholly and entirely around being a console game. Xboxlive already handles friend requests and friends lists, so why implement that in the game?

>>531193404
>this game's PVP is almost as dry as eve online's
as a longtime eve vet, almost no game has the appeal of eve PVP. Eve PVP is about the thrill of risking loss or causing someone else to lose their time spent building out a ship. Thats why ganking carebares in hisec is a thing, they bitch the loudest. Most every other game PVP is just pointlessness, especially this one, since TTK is so long that fighting other PVP'ers is a chore.

>>531195639
i tried to get into EVE once, but the progression was a literal cliff
the first combat missions you'd do had you fighting 2-3 ships that could barely scratch you
all fine and dandy, do some mining, make a some money, buy a brand new MUCH better combat ship, equip way better shields and weapons
get all geared up, ready, foregone conclusion i'm going blow through the next combat mission, warp in..
immediately surrounded by 6-8 fighters blasting me with kinds of new tech, they're just as strong or stronger than me..
like wtf even is that game, that was the first non tutorial mission and it went in dry af

>first weapon skin they release (and it actually looks pretty cool)
>locked behind a fomo building competition with limited prizes
Amazing

>>531194523
A stilltent is an equally good option if you have one on you (I've never carried one because there's always somewhere to hide unless you're in a spice field).

>>531196731
That lego set looks like it'd easily be $200-$300, not a bad reward at all.

>>531197443
The lego set is worth 170 dollars. 3 people in total can win them. I really dgaf about those kind of things but adding in-game cosmetics behind this limited reward scheme is so fucking dumb it's making me want to just uninstall.

>>531196714
>tried to get into EVE once, but the progression was a literal cliff
well, the real progression issue for most of its existence has been that progression was literally time locked; your skills progress in real time, and there was no way to increase that except long ago there were a set of skills that increased learning speed, so they became defalut to acquire and train first, which slowed shit down even more. What you are describing, honestly, is easily solved by grinding the right missions while you acquire ISK and train skills, then moving on and up.

>>531196714
also, without getting into the weeds of eve combat, traversal and speed are life until you get geared up. You simply use orbit an enemy with an AB on so their shots dont hit you (and other ships cant really hit you as well) while hitting them with weapons that can hit despite that traversal (its why the caldari kestral with light missiles was the level 1 goat back in the day, trivialized all level 1 (and some 2s) because you just orbited at like 30km and killed them with missiles.

>>531196714
Eve's combat is probably the single worst part of the game. They built up everything else in the game (to little actual success) because the combat mechanics are utter dogshit.

You'll come across some retards who pretend it's got something else going on but it's almost literally just:
1. Your shit fit counters theirs
2. You brought more friends than them
3. You hit the orbit button and weren't a fucking retard about it

Corp fleet combat is just whoever has the most ships/players/alts with a 10% element of good communication/organization by fleet commanders, and lots of time dilation so the fight takes 2 hours instead of 10 minutes.

Solo PVP is almost entirely just spending 16 hours fucking with probes and trying to be sneaky/fast to get 1 kill and it's 99% of the time some carebear who doesn't even put up a fight, just dies. Sometimes you hit bait and get jumped and counterganked and in that case you were just fucked unless you smelled it beforehand.

There is very very very little about eve's combat that requires player skill. Most of the "player skill" is just the shitfit you made and the friends you brought, not any decisions made in combat itself. People will tell you it's more involved than orbit and cycle guns/gear but 99% of the time - no, it isn't.

I haven't touched the game in probably 6-10 years now, but I bet you it's exactly the same still. They could never bring themselves to do anything actually good with the combat in that game. The closest thing to something interesting I saw in eve's combat mechanics were the new jump destroyers moving fleets around, which theoretically gave some interesting plays, but I quit around then and never saw if it panned out or not.

>>531199397
solo eve combat is 99% about ganking PVE fit ships in various ways, with the 1% reserved for ganking another ganker while they are AFK or otherwise not paying attention fast enough.
everything above that (small gang to fleet) is ruled by one principle: focus fire.

>>531149985
Isn't just "travel at night" a better version of a parasol?

Does anyone have any recommendations for survival games with pvp? Besides Rust.

>>531203451
too bad that strat doesn't work during the day

herbert really got it wrong with stillsuits

on a dry planet sure, but not a dry and hot planet
humans dissipate body heat through evaporative cooling which requires sweating to work. It's the only way you can stay cool in an environment that's hotter than your body temperature (37C). Average temperatures on arrakis are almost always over 37C, which means you need alternative active or passive cooling if you can't sweat. There is no other form of passive cooling besides evaporation that would work.

And stillsuits should be bright and reflective, a high albedo and high reflectivity to reduce energy absorption from the surrounding environment

Unironically the radiation suits are more appropriate stillsuits than the stillsuits are.

The only way these stillsuits could actually work on arrakis is if they have active cooling systems like a refrigerator does.

>>531206104
Bro are you regarded
You still sweat in a stillsuit it just slurps it all back up alongside your piss and shid and feeds it back to you.

>>531209876
the only one slurping piss and shit is you regard

>>531209876
no he has a point
the body is evacuating the water which heats and then evaporates
if the water never evaporates off you and goes away, it doesn't work. gimp suit would just be cooking you inside itself

>>531211124
it's cooled by spice melange, I don't gotta explain shit

>>531211124
>if the water never evaporates off you and goes away,
the water could transfer the heat to whatever 20,000 year in the future fabric its made from, which could then radiate the heat. The fabric is the radiator.

>>531213787
in fact, I imagine the fabric is a bit thick, and is porus except for a hard, sealed outer layer. That outer layer is whatever radiates the heat.

luckily the humidity levels of Arrakis is basically non existent, so there should be no issues with the evaporation process working. so it comes down to the futuristic material science >>531213787 or w/e the hell this guys talking about

>>531214631
well, you show a radiator on that AI slop. A radiator of that sealed surface layer could have microridges, vastly increasing the surface area and allowing to radiate more effectively. No idea why stillsuits are usually black, though, that would just absorb heat from the sun. Should be white like in your pic.

It's all sci-fi doohickey thingymabobs, don't dwell on it

>>531214004
>>531214631
bro you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

you don't get evaporative cooling without losing the water. You can't use radiators because the ambient temperature is higher than your body temperature, radiators would literally work in the opposite direction and heat you up

>>531222025
oh no, my scifi game is ruined now

I'm sad Jodorowsky's Dune never got released. Modern film makers are fucking cowards putting out slop by comparison to this guy.

https://youtu.be/BqGwiAyaEfs?si=tmXVZfmgsfm_c9-o

>>531226672
https://youtu.be/j5rqGBeqX08?si=e41DsPDiUjmuorns

It looks fucking amazing. Fuuuuuuck imagine if we were playing a Dune game based on this instead of the boring formulaic shit we got instead...

>>531227897
this is just AI slop

>>531230764
are you fucking retarded?

>>531227897
>imagine if we were playing a dune game based on the source material, which are the books, which is what dune:awakening is based on

>>531238670
>which is what dune:awakening is based on

>>531238670
>which is what dune:awakening is based on

ASIA AND OCEANIA BROS
TELL US WHERE THE NEW DEEP DD LABS/WRECKS ARE

>>531193404
"i have zero friends" the post

>>531238670
>imagine dune based on the books
>jodorowsky, "YOU MUST RAPE THE BOOK. THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR FILM."
>imagine

Jesus christ some anons in this thread are stupid as fuck.

>>531251924
midwit hands typed this post
'fun with friends' is the most hollow and bottom-of-the-barrel design defense, you are a domesticated cog

>>531252229
yup, friendless loser spotted. yahtzee, that's a bingo.

>>531252378
nta but i had four other people playing in our little clan and it did little to nothing to deter the standing issues frequently spoken of this game

>>531252620
nta but i also vaguely vague vagued a vaguepost that are the frequent happenings in dune posted here directly from reddit.

>>531252805
it's an honor to be mentally ill here with you, midwit-anon

>>531253141
np, we can all see exactly when you doomtrannies started infesting the thread. you're all so obvious. run back to your resetera discord for backup now.

Is it just me or do T6 tools have generally dogshit durability compared to T5? I swear my cutteray and battery are getting wrecked much faster with just regular use.

>>531254262
Probably intentional, to keep you "engaged" with the "endgame" for longer.

>>531196731
Yeah this pissed me off too. Its clear they have mountains of cosmetics sitting there waiting to be drip fed.

>>530901487
I gave up paying taxes, now just debating if I drop 2m on buying a large ore refinery and medium spine refinery.

>>531255694
And at least one entire set of building pieces.

>>531256189
I would be fine if all of this could be purchased, its the fractured drip feeding thats moronic. It does nothing to attract people to social media and it just pisses off players in a game that lacks content.

still testing skylight and bounce lighting ideas

If jodo is this enthusiastic talking about rrrraape you can bet your ass he wouldn't pussy out about saying 'jihad'

>>531255694
Yeah it made me uninstall the game, the atreides uniform for twitch subs was already pushing it but at the very least that one was available for everyone without any bullshit arbitrary and artificially limited contest reward system behind it.

I bet he would've made the harko guard jessica scene really fappable, maybe even full penetration

he would've invented the entire mom ntr genre

>>531259083
Devs underestimate how much this sort of bullcrap ruins games. Just sell it and then make people grind for it.

>>531258778
I was playing with something similar, having angled walls helps a lot for catching natural light.

>>531196731
pretty sure conan did this kind of stuff too but all skins were available later in other ways. if i remember right, that is

>>531259608
Yeah it might be the case that they intend on releasing them later for everyone, but even so we're already in a situation where we have a grand total of 0 (zero) skins for your weapons, and they decide to release the first one in some bullshit marketing community contest. Just pisses me off

>>531259608
>Here is X
>Can I have X
>No, you had to do Y which was a time limited FOMO event
>But I want X, I'll pay or grind extra or something
>No, we have an arbitrary plan on how we use X to keep people playing
>I'm out
>Where did everyone go?
Just put the god damn content in the god damn game. This is why HD2 will have hundreds of thousands of players next year and Dune will be dead as fuck, bad faith design choices melt your player base.

>>531259540
the first basic building set has high albedo angled walls (sandstone color so they reflect warm light) and they're very thin, I found them the best for bouncing light but the choam ones should be good too if you like white or want it brighter

>>531259924
Yeah I only played with the Atr pieces but I should play with the others more, I wonder if the Hark smooth pieces for example do well because they're naturally shiny.

>>531259914
>This is why HD2 will have hundreds of thousands of players next year
bold assumption with sony permanently breathing down their neck
hd2 devs exist on a constant cliffside of decisions that can kill their game overnight due to all the retarded shit their japanese boomer overlords shove onto their desk

>>531260287
Na Sony has fucked off ever since the Killzone disaster. There hasn't been a word or push from them since, hell the Xbox release proves they're clearly not influencing it anymore.

>>531259914
>HD2
Helldivers?

>>531261115
Yes

>>531222025
What if the future sci-fi fabric has a very thin layer of gas in it that supercharges the endothermic effect of transitioning your sweat into vapour, with lining that absorbs that vapour into the catchpocket via the tubing?

>>531226672

can you start making bases in DD right after apex hits or after server restart in the morning?

>>531263529
weird shit like casting handsome pristine patrick steward as the scarred and haggard gurney halleck are symptoms of lynch's complaints with the film
even back then meddling corpo shit would force 'big names' into roles just for publicity at expense of the contents

lynch wasn't filtered so much as he was leashed and collared every step of the way

>>531264101
>patrick stewart
Even at the time I found it hilarious, I was only passingly familiar with the book back then, but I knew enough to know that Patrick Stewart was an absolutely slapheaded casting choice.
Also for the role of Paul, who was a literal teenager for most of the source book, they chose the most 35-year-old looking man in the world at the time

>>531264084
You can build bases whenever the servers are online. The wipe is on its own timer, and there's an in-game countdown for each server. What makes you think Fuckcom would be competent enough to sync the weekly wipe with the daily server restart? How many online games do you know that require a DAILY FUCKING SERVER RESTART?
Yeah, thought so.

>>531264909
I just assumed wipe and restart are at the same time, I'm only interested now because of the dogshit changes that made every faggot shit up half the DD with bases walling off every resource.

>>531263337
it doesn't work

in the best case scenario you are just dumping body heat into your catchpockets until they reach your body temperature

The heat you are getting rid of through evaporation is going into the water being evaporated. If you trap and condense that water, you get all the heat back too.

>>531265425
Could it be cooling you by circulating the water you expend around your body in thin capillary-like tubing pumped by the movements of your body?

https://www.planetologist.app/

new DD survey data coming in

>>531266248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfB9cYPh6xk

also, there is a book called the Science of Dune, which has chapters dissecting various tech in the books by PhDs, and there is a chapter on stillsuits.

>>531266248
no, there are only 2 ways I can think of for them to cool down on arrakis if they're keeping all the water:

1. Storing body heat into something, somehow. For example, having an ice cold tank of water (water is pretty close to the best coolant in existence already) and you circulate that over your body until it reaches its heat capacity for the environment
2. Active cooling like a refrigerator

evaporative cooling is stupid effective, you quickly dump waste heat into the environment and you get lighter doing it and it works even if your environment is hotter than you are
the only catch is you have to let the water go

if you do not let the water go, you cannot benefit from evaporative cooling. That's the tradeoff.

>>531265425
From what I understand the cooling from sweating comes from the energy being expended to evaporate the water, not by transferring heat into the water. I'm no expert, just getting unreasonably interested in the thermodynamics of this for no particular reason.

>>531267335
This answers my question here >>531267843, I was just too late. I guess if the core issue is power, we can just assume solar energy or some type of miniature fusion reactor. Maybe the suits are made from material that can somehow absorb solar energy, and that's why they are dark.

well?

>>531268637
>The weight of a kindly dev is a fearful thing. Do you understand, Wally? Mia Khalifa.

>>531268079
it seems that the Dune power tech is sufficiently advanced that powering a stillsuit would be trivial, at least based on the movies. Cant remember if the books actually address it.

>>531268079
the thing about evaoporative cooling is that all the water is doing by evaportating is transporting heat; there is nothing stopping the fabric medium of the still suit taking the place of the air, the water phase changing within the suit and the heat released from the suit while the water is condensed and maintained. As the book snippet intimates, material science 20,000 years in the future (the snippet is wrong about the 13,000 years) makes it very believeable that such a fabric, with water pumped around by body movement and/or capillary action, could exist.

>>531271392
I honestly don't know why you're still going on like this, you have absolutely zero idea how heat transfer works and you keep ignoring what people tell you to spout this nonsense over and over again

Just look up some videos or talk about it with chatgpt, at this point you're being retarded on purpose.

do nodes respawn if you put a roof over them?

>>531271682
>>531271392
i like his speculative discussion posting fuck you
talk about how holtzmann magitech shit works next, i still don't get the magic that makes fully 3d-covered shields and suspensors operate in the setting

>>531271392
Yeah, I guess my concept of a thin gas layer was more naive than the assumptions made by Herbert. He was further along than I got in 10 minutes of thinking, which isn't a surprise.

>>531271682
People who like sci-fi tend to be interested in the feasibility, limitations and opportunities of advanced tech beyond what's achievable right now. If that somehow steps on your toes, you might be in the wrong place.

>>531272197
It's idiotic nonsense

>>531272197
Same principle that allows Jedi to wield laser swords that somehow stop being lasers at an appropriate length for a sword: space magic.

Bi-lal kaifa (Wali!)
Bi-lal kaifa (Wali!)

Hit or miss, guess rockets never miss huh?
You got no guild friends, I guess nobody'll miss ya!
3x disruptors on your shields, hasta la vista
Gon' thumper your scout and dab like Wiz Khalifa

>mfw I just don't go out during daytime

Marathon looks better than this dogshit.

You cannot argue with me.

>>531274250
I'll stop now

didn't read grokslop paragraphs

>debating about realism in science FICTION

Is too risky to go loot stuff in the DD pvp with assault mk5 + thrusters + storage

Managed to wall off 1 strav and 1 titan node near each other for this reset.

>>531276991
yes, because 'it's magix so it works xD' handwaving is for boring dummies over in the fantasy aisle

>>531271731
Yes, though I had some fuckyness going on this DD where nodes didn't respawn if they were touching a floor or foundation. It was still easy enough encasing them safely with a bit of trial and error on the first day. 1% chance they actually fix cutting of resources tonight they won't

>>531277127
>Assault
You'll be eaten alive and your assault thumper'd by a scout swarm if you encounter the wrong group of faggots at popular hours. It's safer to take a scout with storage, and it's safest to take a scout and thrusters(extremely homosexual). You can always make one of each and drive both out with more vehicle backup tools

>he didn't roll on a dead server with zero scout swarms

>>531278798
Why?

>>531279570
i did this and i got really fucking bored because the only danger was the shitty buggy flying worms that love to teleport 200 meters above the sand and the new flytrap-glue shipwrecks
it's bad when the only thing imposing on you is developer incompetence

>>531280006
>log in
>click on 2 nodes with buggy
>log out

>/vg/ can barely keep a general going
>eddit is 'ead
>game is at half player count and falling
Wish you all luck bros wasn't worth the 6 years dev time

imagine being DUNE: THE VIDEOGAME and fucking fortnite of all things mogs your shitty cosmetics

>>531287975
Left has been dyed some shitty swatch

>>531288072
the model itself still looks like complete ass in comparison to a one-off cameo product

>>531287975
>imagine thinking right looks better somehow
but also
>imagine paypigging the deluxe edition [spoiler solely[/spoiler]for the shitty movie stillsuit

>when you realize stillsuits are useless and water discipline doesn't matter anyway
crying crocodile tears into my hajra literjon mk5 rn

>>531290023
I'm going to imagine being able to type while I took your bait, too.

>>531276991
many things conceived of in fiction become the blueprint for things that later existed

life imitates art like art imitates life.

or at least it is something to talk about. not much to say about the minutiae of the game anymore.

>the mercenary shitbox virgin vs the Atreides tax evasion chad

'triedes structures look like weaboo dogshit tbeych, and everyone uses it, so it's super basic
harkonnen color/lightness balancing doesn't look right, too dark against the landcape
advanced CHOAM is peak brutalist and realistically utilitarian design

>>531296469
yeah honestly everything felt kinda weird going from choamshit to atreides super imperial megastructures
player wealth and base function just doesn't warrant that type of architecture at all when every player home is effectively just a garage sweatshop and none of the smaller utilities or cosmetics have any function or reason

Actually building harko will be a good trick to do well in that upcoming building contest
nobody's gonna do it but they're gonna have to pick some harko winners / runner ups for equality's sake

>>531297436
mixing harko-treides is probably the ticket to winning unless they go with some memeshit like a pixel art grid base or something
all the building contests in other games keep favoring low effort shit like that over actual structures lately, some kind of mind virus going around

>>531196731
So I am seeing a trend here that you mostly see in cash shop games where all the cosmetics that would normally add a lot of life to the game by having players grind for them are instead being given out via twitch drops and other bullshit people hate to give dune the illusion of popularity. I noticed the second set of observer shit hit twitch when the game really started dipping.

paint for chome set when

First time looking at the auction house and holy shit what the fuck is wrong with people?

How is one spice melange only 1700 shekels but a stack of plastone 44k? Do people even buy this shit?

>>531317870
>swatches for building pieces
that'll be 10 gifted subs and watch for 3 hours on twitch to enter a luck of the draw for one lucky winner that stopped playing long ago, please

I'm about to make my first solo DD FOB that will act as a large airpad/storage/minimalist survival essentials (no refineries). I figure I'd share this as a guideline for others.

Adv Fief (40 metal)
Fuel generator x4 (180 metal)
5 storage (225 alu 40 silicon)
Deathstill (60 steel 28 silicon 32 complex machinery)
Medium Cistern (60 steel 30 silicon)
Small Chemical (45 copper)
Pentashield (2 steel 20 cobalt 6 calibrated servok)

1000-1500 granite
500 fuel
260 metal
100 silicon
45 copper
70 steel
40 cobalt
225 aluminum
12 calibrated servok
32 complex machinery
1 corpse

Probably able to carry everything in one assault storage trip then use scout to gather stuff in the Northern PvP region and use assault to haul back to Hagga from the FOB

>>531324121
Prob the new fix for the repair bug so get your repairs in if you're using it

>>531325470
I assume you're playing solo? You don't need an advanced fief. A 5x5 hoboshack is more than enough.

>>531325482
There's a new repair bug? Or did one of their rollbacks make the deconstruct container / loot all / log off for 30 secs thing work again?

>>531325726
I have a friend that plays here and there so I wanna make sure its large enough to fit 2 Assault on the airpad. Beside why not use adv fief if the corallis storm is gonna wipe it before taxes are due

>>531325470
I never saw the logic in a 'storage' DD base where you don't do any refining to reduce total volumes
I mean, every trip you save by bringing your stuff to the FOB instead of back to hagga is gonna bite you in the ass when it's monday, the wind's getting sandy, you're lazy, and you have to do 20+ back and forth trips on an assault orni like moving house IRL

It's just so will-sapping and tiresome

>>531326195
With the last patch they rolled back the previous fix since that caused the items disappearing from inventories

>>531326518
Oh nice, time to deconstruct and get my ornithopter to pristine again

>>531326238
You do you dude but I'm telling you, hauling shit back and forth every week will wear you down.

Eventually you're going to just want to build a minimalist shack where you refine your ore and your spice and that's pretty much it.

>>531326425
Because transporting is easy and I just don't feel like dismantling all the base and fancy refineries at the end of each weeks either. Just wanna get my t6 mats and let the base rot by the storm. My bud can help me with transport so its not gonna be so bad. If we were 3-5 players I'd do what you said certainly.

>>531327337
Wrong general, Helldiver

>>531326906
Ill consider medium ore/medium chem/
spice refineries. I just didn't want to start dealing with power output and shit

is titanium not 45 mins respawn?

>>531326425
>I never saw the logic in a 'storage' DD base where you don't do any refining to reduce total volumes
I tried this last time, and it went about the same if a little faster just from having more experience moving shit, aka making a second base at cliff wall near the exit with scout rapidly taking apart the shack and running goods, then assaulting everything back to hagga much faster than flying it through DD proper.
You trade the time and headache spent running out refinery materials cobalt paste my beloved and fussing with filters/corpses for water instead for more trips in the end running your spice/titanium back home in the end.

>>531328538
>I just didn't want to start dealing with power output
Make a shitty tower/cube on the outskirts of your property and fill it to the brim with baby scrap metal generators. If you have a buggy out there, it gets even easier when lasering a handful of batteries is enough to power your base the entire week. You can throw the batteries into any storage and fill them all at once from your fief console to make it really braindead without having to actually interact with the 30-40 shitter generators

>>531328916
>oh yeah then you're gonna need more water to process ore/spice
>so more advance deathstill + expensive refineries and cistern
>so more power output
>need to start bothering with corpses along t6 mats in your 500 scout storage
>dont forget to build, dismantle, transport all that shit weekly to save effort bro !

Yeah nah
Now i just wonder if I do my storage spot near row E or stick close to A B

>>531330030
If you're worrying about hauling corpses, you can put your base near a testing station or wreck and just grab some fresh corpses there.

>>531330030
Flying from A to E is like 10km. That's quite a significant distance if you plan on gathering a lot of spice or ores.

Do people have more than one base?

>>531333186
yes, but you can have only 3 subfiefs max

>>531325470
>DD
>Deathstill
regard

>>531334048
Its to fill your literjon so you can stick around. Bloodpack and blood extractor is better left at home since they weight a lot together

>>531334658
>just carry the 75v body instead
lmao, build a windcatcher you gigantic dumb dumb
and if you're not processing stuff in the DD there's no reason for you to build a base
hit up the A row stations like the pleb you are and take your mk5 recipes back to basin

>>531335414
Lol look at this hardcore gaymer right there. A regular deathstill cost peanuts like a windtrap so who gives a shit about that small intricacy. If anything you're the one getting "filtered" here

LMAO

>>531336838
>shai hulud left parasites in his ass
>the sun fried his braincells
you can only choose both

>>531337407
Listen up sand cupcake, just lurk and let your gay ass general died with you since you have no clever insights or wit to your game. Fucking nu-terminally online loser I swear.

I think it is funny every time an atreides talks to my dude as if he isn't a pinhead looking geidi prime pyon wearing full Harkonnen livery

dune more like doomed
hope the positivity hype squad is still here to wag their finger at people for complaining about the sheer amount of fuck the endgame was

>>531344190
but muh pvp

>>531344795
um ashhully
>*assembles squad of 1 gorillion helicopters*
its the pve fags that caused this
>destroy 1 hapless fool that just wanted to play the game
70% playercount down because they made DD pve
>bravely thopters that guy's thopter
if only they were good at the game or gave it a sincere try
>flies on to do this to every single person that crosses B

>>531344190
The playerbase is gonna keep bleeding until new contents arrive. What they can do to redeem as much as they can;

-Make a harsher and arrid zone with ornithopters disable (snow map?)
-add pvp arena
-add a Atreides vs Harkonnen PvP zone mix in with NPCs
-never go further than t6 in gear treadmill number and start to introduce new weapons and tools as sidegrade like helldivers
-drop any exterior FOMO gifts like twitch and shit

Outside new zones to play around with I just don't know how they could make the endgame "everlasting and fun" outside some form of non punishing PvP so people can start dipping into that without fear of losing items/item durability. Open PvP with losing your stuff should still exist in parallel. Space combat would be fun too but that's a stretch.

>>531344190
As the player count continues to drop off, the only ones left will be the players who actually enjoy having nothing to do, so you will see increasing amounts of positivity

I could get behind their idea of pvp in the DD but they have no combat mechanics for this.

Orni rockets rockets rockets is so fucking barebones

>>531345965
Valheim does a pretty good job on exploration with a combo of procedurally generating more map, the game in general looking beautiful, and the combat, survival, and exploration feeling good. So traveling around to new biomes by ship or on foot altogether feels fun and not a chore.

Zomboid is more chore-like, but there's still a lot of fun in driving to a new town to try and loot some nice gear you need while working around the zombies and planning ahead for small safespots to rest or sleep.

I think in this game, if they can create expansive environments to explore mostly on the ground, get rid of worm timers so worms actually patrol and you can avoid them, and make the general survival aspects a little more thought provoking and challenging - e.g. you can't just plop a fief and a deathstill and farm 1 of 10,000 NPC's dotted on the map for infinite water - and there's neat and useful stuff to actually find, then they could have some fun survival and exploration elements that work in the game.

anyway there's not much point thinking about it because it's not going to happen, there will be marginal improvements over what the game currently is

>7 traps give over 1m water per day
fuck farming corpses holy shit

>>531347738
Idea 1;
>Giant underground map that used to be a radioactive burial site 10 000 years ago
>no more radioactive emission but any life down there is mutated (baby worms, humanoid/worm hybrid zombie enemies)
>an actual Boss/Raid
>cant extract blood since its radioactively corrupted
>suspender disable
>sandbike/buggy only and a new vehicule to drill around

Idea 2;
>A super long desert corridor that you have to enter at the bottom and exit at the top, so you're on a journey. Something like 3x15 squares
>0 vehicules allowed (bring your stilltent)
>make 1 worm patrol 3 squares per row so players have 2 other squares to move around until it come over
>constantly in red hot sun and have to survive with few patches of dew, making stillsuit welcome
>npc enemies riding buggy/sandbike with rockets/chaingun patrolling around, mad max style (obv players cant claim those)
>rare super fremen npcs that are super dangerous but might carry water on them

>>531351589
but you got to farm the filters and that is vaguely annoying and can't afford to ever run out of water or you are stuck

>>531351589
they have different use cases. The water traps are good if you refine big batches infrequently. But feeding just three adv death stills gets essentially the same amount in 7 hours. Both require maintenance.

>>531351589
also, if your circuit is full, your still going through filters on the wind traps.

it only feels like you're using a lot of materials to make filters because you're using low quality shit that sucks down grass, you actually use less with the better shit. so upgrade and gitgud.
>there should be a snow map
motherfucker, the lowest the temps ever get on Arrakis is 40c/104f.

>>531352483
there's ice caps in the books

>>531352483
>stranded by the dune IP
yea we know, but it would be fun. Just make it another planet IDGAF

>>531267105
the idea is that you dont have to cool by evaporation since the inside of the stillsuit is cooler than your body and actively pumps away your body heat and that's possible without any hydraulic system whatsoever, in fact with modern technology. car refrigerators use it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_heat_pump
in case of the stillsuit its whole area would be one giant Peltier cell, however for it to work the outside of the suit would have to be hotter than ambient temperature on Arrakis which is the retarded part but i guess you wouldnt burn your hand if you touched your leg since it has good heat insulation kek

>>531351995
>>531352262
Maintenance is only twice a week for traps, for a solocuck they are ideal imo.

>>531353092
wait to figure out where 'Dune' is in the Dune universe

I only use traps in the desert because meatbag logistics sucks over there.

For basin though, I know when I'm about to go on a (dur)aluminum crafting spree and need a lot of water so I can easily toss in a half dozen corpses that will have been turned into smoothies by the time I get back with the raw materials.

Is this the ultimate endgame base?

>>531354052
scout needs to be in the vbt

Is the infantry rocket launcher worth making?

>>531354052
how'd you fit an extra triangle

>>531357210
There's 0 reason to not use adv fief in DD. Hobo shack are only good in permanent hagga

>>531357210
Just started building squares from the very corner of the subfief and then found out you can build triangles. Doesnt help very much tbhdesu, just adds a bit of style with these neko ears.
Here's an outdated variant with triangles on two sides, now I've removed them from the obscured side and just placed two rows of directional turbines on the ground

>>531296152
>put up a stack of spice at lower than the market price
>buy everything I want
>able to pay my 10k every 2 weeks for the next year

I still respect this most eminent respect to the most important of all Fremen traditions: Tax Evasion.

>>531354979
It can do some damage through shields and is good against orni's. But you want the regis launcher or pic related. Regis and Way can almost take out a wing in 1 missle.

>all these quests and a mk6 cuttery (as new)
>you're not allowed to repair the weapon because you don't know the blueprint

What the fuck is this, Funcom?

>>531361541
Beautiful. I suppose you get 1- 2 hit by missile while on foot ? They really should've made a earlier rocket for T5

>die in a shipwreck because a melee player came out of nowhere and backstabbed me
>respawn for a revenge match but find a Chinese player who says he avenged me and asks me what I dropped so he can give it back to me
I hear complaints about Chinese players in this game, but I've had more positive experiences with them than not.

>>531362053
>They really should've made a earlier rocket for T5
feels like it was a month ago now that fat faggot said he was going to put one in but i'm assuming they've had some difficulty navigating their jeetcode given how much shit they've broken by patching the game already

>>531361934
It's funny how just about every mission is about items that are as much worth as taking a shit in your pants and scooping it out when asked to deliver, and suddenly this one particular side mission asks you to deliver a fabergé egg
so yes, what the fuck is this, Funcom?

>>531364085
get ready for a reality where you are the 3rd worlder

>>531362053
>on foot
first missle is on the ground to hit, otherwise you always suspensor around in the air while shooting, In air you become a VERY small target, some people are getting good enough to hop our of their scout, pocket it, and shoot missles the entire way down. a friend of mine likes to ride on top of my orni and only use lasgun and shoot missles, its becoming very effective.

>daily server restarts
>practically daily downtime for inexplicable updates, half of which just break the game more
>nothing gets fixed
Man, these devs really know what they are doing, don't they?

>>531372181
what non-trannies do: log off, wait, log on, keep playing
what friendless trannies do: cry

>>531354052
No, you fucked up by not making your sub fief 6 blocks high.

>>531361431
I have 5 million solaris in the bank and I still refuse to pay the emperor.

the tripleshot lab is HOT, pvp all day

>>531372358
What are you talking about? I rarely play these days, as I have reached endgame (i.e. fuck all to do), but every other time I log in I get a notification the server is about to restart or shut down for some shit.

>>531276991
retard

Nobody cares about fiction having fictional things, they care about internal consistency within the fiction and when you start making shit up on the spot and not following through on the stupid shit you make up, the entire setting and everything you wrote turns into incoherent and unpredictable garbage where nothing happens logically or reasonably, but instead entirely on the whims of a given writer, which then destroys the suspension of disbelief

its why every good fictional setting will set up some kind of macguffin to accomplish what's necessary for their setting, and then leave everything else the fuck alone and proceed with the story as "what if this macguffin existed". This is what dune does, with two major macguffins: Prescience and Holtzman fields. Everything in the setting stems from these and herbert tries to follow their impact on future humanity without constantly fucking around and changing definitions and making up how things work completely different from how they worked earlier.

Herbert doesn't do anything to change the laws of thermodynamics in his stories. Energy is still conserved, the laws of thermodynamics are obeyed. The problem with stillsuits and heat is an oversight on his part, he never considered that evaporation is how you cool off in an environment hotter than your body temperature and that a suit which prevents evaporation also prevents cooling off.

It's nevertheless very straightforward to resolve: Simply use active cooling systems. If you have the energy to run a portable holtzman field you have the energy to run portable refrigerators in your suit too.

>>531369615
>all the way down
try the horizontal 'planetary' belts if you haven't already, you can basically keep in the air forever with them and it's a lot easier to 'catch' someone on the back of your thopter if they're using it

>>531372984
you must login between 6:30-6:59 UTC every single day then, crazy consistency.

>>531373061
i ain't reading all that. im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

how do a lasgun and holzman shield make explodey tho wheres the enriched uranium

>>531334048
I don't get it

We ran a deathstill in the deep desert just fine and had more water than we could use

>>531369076
what do you mean "get ready"?

It already happened thanks to mass immigration

>>531373061
>internal consistency
Continuity doesn't matter to companies and making this much sense gets in the way of marketing campaigns that ragebait fans so these arguments never rise to the top and the people who make the decisions are making money one way or another regardless.

>>531373773
Why hasn't it been utilized as a power source? Atomic explosions from a little shieldpack and a handheld laser? I could run an entire city off that reaction. Why isn't everything being run off little lasers setting off holtzman fields? Even if reliability is an issue, there is a point where enough shields and lasers in parallel will create the reaction and offset the energy costs by orders of magnitude

It violates the conservation of energy unlike that other anon said and basically allows infinite free energy

>>531375252
It's too unpredictable. It can just delete the laser wielder and shield user, or it can set off a fucking tsar bomba.

>>531375504
Ok so what? I just run them in parallel

1 tsar bomba in 1 million interactions will still pay for those million interactions and then some

>>531375787
Building a structure to contain such a blast would be prohibitively expensive, even in space-magic future.

>>531376067
We can do it already. Something as simple as pushing a piston (e.g. project orion, which uses nuclear bombs and a piston to generate electricity and thrust) would be able to generate enormous amounts of energy and that's with 1950's technology, not year 26,100 technology.

>>531375252
>Shields and lasers do not interact
This single line would have stopped any of this stupid lore inconsistencies

>>531353865
>I only use traps in the desert because meatbag logistics sucks over there.
>Offered to trade dead bodies for any T6 mats
>People fucking clamoring over each other to get some
Jesus I didn't realise it was so hard/hated moving bodies

>>531351771
I also saw this on reddit my dude

>>531377424
It's not hard, it's just time intensive to go back to basin, slaughter some bandits, load them up, travel back, and then put them in the blender every hour compared to putting some filters in a building.

>>531378548
I dont mind, it gives me ore without having to risk anything and loading up bodies being a water boy is pretty fun

>>531377175
Someone probably pointed out to herbert that a laser could go through a holtzman field and be used to kill people, circumventing his idea that ranged weapons don't work anymore. So he thought of the quickest and easiest solution to that problem: Obviously if you shoot a laser at a holtzman field it kills both people and maybe even kills everyone.

Problem solved

Retrospectively the laser light just not going through a holtzman field probably would've been better. It's not like in-phase light waves are super common anyway.

>>531378837
Or make it bounce. So it kills the operator. Same effect, no nuclear easy bomb for everyone.

>>531378548
You don't have to go to hagga to get bodies

there are NPC spawns all over the deep desert

>>531378467
hence the filename

>>531382167
>reading file names
Very reddit of you

>>531382345

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuOOAiGhLYE
more PvP tips for when some of you eventually get PCs that can run modern games

not watching your shitty video, put the fries in the bag

>>531373169
>implying server restarts are the only downtime
Why do people insist on defending Fuckcom?

>>531385513
grrr THE DEVS....aiyeeee BLIZZZZZZZARDO KOJIMA YOSHIP MATSuOMOTOOOOOO JOOOOOOEL YOU DID THIS SERVER DOWNTIMES. FUCK!!!!!COM!

just go back to resetera or some other thread you're doomtrannying in.

p.s. the servers are provided by nitrado. just like conan. you can buy minecraft servers from them.

>Laser heavy sucks
>Gatling heavy sucks
>Plasma heavy sucks
>Shaitan's Tongue
>Only takes a couple seconds to start fire DoT which deals huge damage
>Completely obliterates enemies with shields
>Ammo is pretty cheap and Tongue isn't expensive (on my AH at least)
>Any time I got overwhelmed switched to GRDA just to stagger enemies and keep them off me as I re-positioned
Seems wildly underrated imo especially for any content with massively tanky enemies like the DD labs. I'm 99% built for SM/BG melee build so I have double the normal stamina which made it easy to keep dodge around. Plus the trooper underslung reduces the movespeed penalty almost entirely.

>>531386149
mix flamethrower with the mentat gasbomb and soldier's snaretrap shit if you really wanna see things melt behind a shield

>>531385740
You seem riled up, why do you feel the need to run defence for companies that don't pay you? I don't understand...

so uuuh any reason our main boy Zantara is the only one with a rocket launcher capable of taking out thopters, which would be a believable method to create no-fly zones enforced by hostile NPCs or territories

>>531388603
>implying the game code can handle NPCs with rocket launchers
There's a reason the only time you see Zantara use a rocket launcher is in cutscenes

>>531389035
it's weird because there's very distinct anti-air turret props on some of the harko/atreides faction bases, the models are there for it but the.. everything else, isn't
it will be fun reading some vengeful memoir of one of the devs whisteblowing about how much shit was missing/cut from this game when the inevitable layoffs start pumping

>>531387904
Thats a good idea hadn't thought of adding in the mentat gas for easy poison too

>>531389601
There's also Atreides ornithopters parked in Arrakeen equipped with laser turrets instead of missile pods. Lots of things in the game that are just set dressing.

>>531388603
>rocket launcher capable of taking out thopters
it takes out a fucking CHOAM prisoner transport.

>>531389601
>>531389981
>The idea was clearly to have bases with anti-air on them in the DD
Bet they're shitting their pants now everyone told them FFA PvP sucks

>>531389601
Why is that weird? It needs to be in the universe, but they couldn't get it to work, or didn't even try. This is true for much of the game.

it's a good thing my buyer didn't know that battle rifles are steaming dogshit

>>531390149
it's weird because it coincides with as you said, dozens of other half-finished half-ideas that are just sort of slapped down as an afterthought in the background
we can only offer optimism that they do Something with them eventually in the meanwhile, but the continued tortured existence of conan exile's development makes it hard to believe

oh yeah, you guys seem mega receptive to pvp, surely you'd love getting torn to shit by a wall of turrets for wandering too close, while guilds send in carriers with fodder buggies armed with missiles to empty your turrets offline and wipe your entire base clean.

>>531390745
Literally no one is saying its a good idea faglord, more that its stupid they didn't add it to PvE

>>531390426
They're not great but at least they have a weapon skin :)))))

>>531392948
I bet you every single gun has a Hark/Atr skin right now sitting on their stupid computers and they're going to drip feed the lot through a thousand hoops

What if the missle in zantara's missile launcher didn't just high explosive but actually a miniature lasgun, like the improvised cutter you can make out of 10 scrap metal, that triggers on an impact tamper to shoot into an active holtzman shield

Actually, why are all projectiles not using this, it would be incredibly effective and cheap. You could take out starships for a few bits of scrap metal for the improvised cutteray lasgun and a common holtzman shield

>>531393853
I'm certain they have building sets, armour and weapon skins as well as entire vehicles (tank) among other things just sitting in their vault ready to be dusted off whenever their marketing department thinks they need an engagement boost.

>>531393884
Cos it just doesn't work like that mkay?

>>531326906
That's to what i have been reduced. I just refine (since Plast is lighter than the ingredients) and store any items I pick up in the Desert in-between water runs.
My Hagga base was built for mass deathstils, so I have found it easier this week to just bring 10 decaliterjons whenever I come back from Hagga.
So far I've spent more time refining sandflour in the DD since the worm reaction time when harvesting is longer than Sheol.

>>531386149
>>531387904
I tried using that shaitan's tongue shit and it doesn't do anything, enemies with shields still close in fast and melee stunlock before they manage to start getting the DoT, what am I missing?

>>531396741
Pressing the dodge key apparently

>>531396741
shaitans tongue my anus
t. Duneman

>>531396932
>Don't just take enemies out the normal fast way, backwards kite forever while wasting tons of an exotic ammo type

>>531397428
It takes less than half a mag what are you doing

>>531398269
How many stacks of this gel am I supposed to fill my inventory with?

>>531398529
I cleared a lab with 1000, its not expensive to have on you or make. That basic ass shotgun blows through more ammo than the flamer does.

when you think you're safe in the chest room remember to look up

>>531398754
Shotgun's kinda shitty too though, outside of pvp

>>531398979
Very much so, bleed is nice, if you can proc it

>>531398974
>Shiggy claws bento box sprints and arrow to the knees out the door across the map and into a different time and place when this game was good with all the loot
shiggy

>>531399115
you forgot
>places pocket mk6 scout with booster and blasts into the stratosphere in 0.001 seconds
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Fast.

>>531400070
Dont even need a thopter once you get bento box sprint to level 3 that shit is ridiculous

>>531373087
thanks for the tip, ill test it out

>>531390531
>we can only offer optimism that they do Something with them eventually in the meanwhile
Misplaced, as the reason for not implementing more systems and having the existing systems interact more and better is how poorly implemented the systems are in the first place. As someone else keeps pointing out, they have to restart their servers every 24 hours, there is massive rubberbanding with tiny, limited server population, strict limits on asset placements (e.g. lights) etc. I am no developer myself, but I can recognize the jank is deeply routed in the foundations of this game, and many underlying issues will likely never be fixed, as that would require a full rebuild.

>>531398974
This reminds me of how even camping in walls with glitches is somewhat lore accurate.

>>531414374
Worry not, we are hard at work watching UE5 blueprint tutorial videos. These problems will be ironed out in a jiff.

- Joel, maybe

>>531416925
yeah the CEO that sits in Cohh's stream all day is working in coding, that's exactly what he is doing, they are like this, that is how they make video game.

>>531386149
The heavy weapons being ass would be fixed instantly if they switched to being emplacement weapons and were made stronger.

I don't think you'll ever be able to make the laser work and I seriously do not understand why they even included it in this game. I would've just left it out entirely.

>>531418883
>CEO that sits in Cohh's stream all day
...that explains so much. The game is probably very cool for large streamers with huge communities happy to orbit them. Too bad it's shit for the average player once you get past the basic progression.

>>531386012
isn't that the one dude who got super fucking fat and then overdosed on ozempic and went back to normal

>>531400464
excuse me its called DINDU sprint

>>531419197
>The game is probably very cool for large streamers with huge communities happy to orbit them.
mfw realizing the entire game is built around the concept of a platoon of betamales in rocketcopters orbiting their father-figure streamer while he vacuums spice in a golfcart harvester

Just spent 20+ hours grinding to get a tier 6 thopter just to lose it while my game crashed while flying it over the deep desert. I had it for less than an hour. I submitted a help request. Will they restore my thopter or just tell me to go fuck myself?

Losing that thopter after all the hassle I had to go through to get it just made me think about what I am actually grinding to do now. There is no real content outside the hagga basin. As a solo player if I decide to try some PvP content 20 minutes of gemeplay would cost me 20 hours of grinding. Even if the PvP was actually fun and not just Temu warthunder that kind of time trade off just isn't worth it. If I go and grind another tier 6 thopter from scratch, what am I going to use it for? The Deep Desert is just long commute times in between a few ship wrecks or rock islands with resource nodes.

>>531423038
where were you after logging in after crash? when i crashed a while back flying, i was standing next to my thopter on login. tier 6 thopter is for the 10km/h extra speed when gliding and boosting, and really nice for the extra handling, but if you're crashing frequently enough to lose it probs should just use T5. and definitely don't go picking rocket thopter fights in it for pvp. go to triple shot dungeon for ground pvp this week.

>>531423038
Why would you even bother with a T6 thopter, its like a 10km difference. Large ore and large spice refinery are the only two things that actually matter in T6, everything else is worthless.

>>531398974
>Sit in chest room
>Hide behind any weird space
>Use water scanner to detect players
>Once they enter; drone attack
50% of the time its work 100% of the time

>>531419812
>What do you MEAN our players hate this content?
>You get to fly and be attacked on twitch! Look how fucking cool this is seeing a warm of dedicated boys and their daddy stomp on this smaller guild!

>>531424245
>8 man squad spiced up scan you back

>>531424398
Spice giving wall hacks is the most idiotic shit, in fact the entire limited time spice buff is retarded

how do thumpers actually work
like
if i shit one down somewhere relatively nearby does that mean i can harvest spice without him showing up to wreck everything

>>531423914
I had my DD base set up on a rock island near a shipwreck in the PvE area. I loaded back in standing next to the shipwreck but with my thopter gone. Teir 6 is a bit faster and with better handling. I've never crashed like this before. I've heard that there is some area in the DD where people on my server are organizing their own battle arena for PvP duels, but past that what content in the end game is there to enjoy? If I grind back to replace what I lost, what am I going to do with it?

The annoying part is if I take a break from the game my base and all my shit will get deleted. It would take me 90 minutes minimum to take the best stuff out of my DD base and put it back in my main base in Hagga. If I don't play for long enough my base and all my shit in Hagga will get destroyed. So I can't go inactive for a few weeks or months to wait and see if the bugs get fixed or more content gets added. As it is now I would normally just take a break but if I don't move my shit out off DD by Monday night my best stuff and my character's load out get deleted. If I come back to the game in a few months all my shit will be gone.

I honestly regret buying this game after all this. Hagga Basin was decent enough, it would be fine if I could play it on a private server as a single player game like I did with Palworld. After spending so much time grinding myself to the end game just to find it devoid of content I now have a character and base I have to play every once and a while just to avoid losing what I already have.

>>531424183
I spend so much time in the thopter I wanted the best version of it. It's the item I use most in game.

>>531424827
>I spend so much time in the thopter I wanted the best version of it. It's the item I use most in game.
And now you don't have it, an extremely likely event in a buggy shitty game. Should have built that large ore refinery.

>>531424754
You place thumper
Worm goes to thumper
Worm eats thumper
Worm bugs out and eats you/leaves you alone/goes to other thumper/goes to random other guy/disconnects from reality/starts flying through the sky/causes a BSOD

Both those last two are not jokes, they've happened to me.

>>531424827
so you got to mk6 end game and instead of just crafting 20 wings and some thrusters/engines you made a whole thopter?

>>531424983
What exactly is the point though of trying to now go out and grind for a better ore refinery? What late game content am I building up for? Is it reasonable to expect to lose something I worked so hard for to the game shitting itself?

>>531425143
Yeah, I had the materials for it and I use it constantly so I wanted the best version of it.

>>531423038
They seem to be giving people some stuff back, whether you get yours is a crapshoot.

>>531425292
>What exactly is the point though of trying to now go out and grind for a better ore refinery?
Because it dramatically increases the amount of ingots you can craft, its far more efficient. Its also forever safe in your base and when you decide to stop playing, safe in your bank or on a thopter parked in a city.
>Is it reasonable to expect to lose something I worked so hard for to the game shitting itself?
While you're right the game shouldn't have bugs, this is Funcom, this game will forever from this day to its last day be a buggy shitshow of a fucking mess where you WILL die and lose everything and it wont be your fault.

Which takes us back to your original point; build the god damn buildings, they're more efficient and they're safe.

>>531425717
he lost a thopter not a buggy

>>531425717
The buildings aren't safe if I stop playing though. If I don't touch this game again after tearing down my DD base everything will be gone in a month when the generators power down or my taxes become overdue. I can''t just bank the large ore refinery though since the bank in the Choam exchange can only hold the components and has a limit on volume and slots. It would take me hours to tear things down and try and bank my best stuff at Choam if I wanted to go inactive with the possibility of returning later if the game improves.

This is a single player PvE game for most players, except that you have other people grabbing up all the best real estate for base building before you get there and if you want to take a break all your shit will be destroyed when you come back.

>>531425292
I joined an established guild advertising in DD chat, after a few days they basically threw me a full mk6 kit and vehicles and said I had to match their colors or I'll get shot on sight but I dunno what you were meant to do. Lansraad and guildplay seems like the obvious, intended choice.

We ran out of duraluminum for rocket crafting once, whole guild rolled out in buggies and we had med storages full in half an hour. I tore down my Anvil base and never made another, I just live in our DD base unless we're hauling back.

>>531426208
I could potentially go inactive for a longer period of time if I where in a big guild. Guilds have a total player limit though and I'd just be taking up space even if I bring in a bunch of resources as a starting bonus. There is effectively no way for me to take a long break or quit the game without losing everything.

>>531426564
I have no concept of permanence in character/bases for this game, because it does not exist.

I never expected it or expect it, I've rerolled half a dozen times to find the server/people I play with now.

>>531372640
How could I make it higher? It already uses all the available height as is - trying to place even a half slope below the ground results in error messages, and the foundation was built as low as possible

>>531426943
build the first sub fief console, plop down 2 or 3 foudnations, delete sub fief console, rebuild it on top of the foundations so that the Z level starts from higher

>>531427067
Aren't these initial bottom parts going to decay over time?

>>531427215
No, they'll still be inside bounds. There's like 2-3 z-levels of 'allowance' when a console gets put down, I guess to account for cliffs and natural ramps and stuff. But most of it is wasted on flat ground unless you do the console rebuild I described

OK funcom, I found the fucking control point.
Sadly the 'ceepee' is out of reach, floating ever so tantalizingly above us.
Are you trying to tell us something here?

Also, what the actual fuck am I supposed to do for this quest?

>>531426670
scan it

Uh... Hark bros?

>>531424439
Sometimes it bugs out and gives you permanent wallhacks, too.

>>531423038
>Even if the PvP was actually fun and not just Temu warthunder
Not enough leaked classified info

uhhhhhhhh atreides bros?

>>531425834
>he lost a thopter not a buggy
Im talking about ore refinery buildings you dumb twat

>>531426154
Make any excuse you want anon, you can easily save a large ore refinery and fucktons of other stuff at the bank. You lost a thopter we get it its very sad now make a report and dont make a stupid mistake like putting all your effort into something you cant afford to lose, its a good life lesson.

>>531430617
The way people will turd polish for any game they have sunk enough time into blows my mind sometimes. A glitch robbed me and somehow I should have seen it coming. Maybe it's all for the best to just drop the game now. I would have to perform upkeep and pay taxes on my base while I wait for the devs to throw together some kind of decent end game. Fuck this broken mess of a game. The devs want an mmo people will play for 10 years while most people treat this game like a solo survival game. Most people will drop this game over the next few months. I hope the devs figure out a way to let people move characters and items in between servers, because by the end of the year most servers will be a ghost town.

This game reminds me of Fallout 76, a broken multiplayer game most people treat like a single player game that most people drop after 3 months. Just like Fallout 76, its drop in concurrent players will plateau and even though more content is added into the game few new people will start playing.

>perma repair still werks
norgniggers gave up lol

>>531432262
well before you quit post your activity log showing your DD thopter being in danger/destroyed in DD, should all be logged

>>531426154
>It would take me hours to tear things down and try and bank my best stuff at Choam if I wanted to go inactive
you legit only need a buggy with a mk5 cutter/storage and a thopter parked in the lot/stored in a tool and you'll be able to rebuild rome in a day upon your return
all the dd shit will probably be vastly reworked by the time anyone's ready to stomach this turd again in a year or two, assuming they actually do anything with it and it's not just an eternally-damned pile of UE blueprints and desperate jeetcode (a fucking miracle)

>>531432860
Not a bad idea. A stored scout thopter and a broken down buggy stored with Choam would be enough to rebuild with. I'd probably save some of my components and better items and gear. If I fly my assault thopter to Harko Village and log out for a year there, will I be able to keep it safe at the airport there? I wonder if anyone has tried that before.

I'm already on low maintenance -24fuel cells a day subfief notax mode but I imagine even logging once every 20 days will be a chore once I'm fully disengaged.

Probably can have a fuckton of stuff ready if I consider personal inventory, bank, parked assault with full storage in arakeen, VBT'd scout, then selling everything I can't keep. You could always forego the most weight inefficient shit like cobalt paste with the view of just farming quickly once you get back or buying from the open market

>>531419484
The Mace Windu Sprint

>>531433297
game is up, post that activity log.

>>531433298
All of this sounds like the best way to go inactive for a long time right now and keep the most stuff. Would take hours to do but for all the time I've sunk into getting this shit whats a couple more. The game might be something better in over a year but I don't feel like playing to keep my base up until then. I can't think of another game that forces you to keep playing just to keep what you have outside of freemium mobile games.

>>531433505
Don't know what is so hard to believe about what I've said that you need receipts for. It's late at night now and I have work in the morning. When i get home I'll grab a picture of the activity log with my phone or something just to make your autistic ass happy.

>>531433689
because we've had a disgruntled redditman LARPing stories he hears on reddit and youtube and twitch and can't post screenshots of his endgame base "that we all have cuz we're dupers!" a week or so post-launch when the game hit its peak and sales broke 1 million and it became popular to hate the game for the contrarian 4chan mind.

>>531434124
Delusion. I praised the game for the first 100 hours, and I have been shitting on it relentlessly since hitting the brick wall. I have never been on reddit regarding this game and I don't use social media. Go fuck yourself.

and he'll never find that base screenshot