>Everdark Nightlords informationhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/the-everdark-sovereigns-have-emerged-elden-ring-nightreign
>Nightreign official wiki and guides, beginner/advanced tips and trickshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring-nightreign/wiki
>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1014
>Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/e24o74.jpg
>Main Information Documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta
>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit
>Interactive Maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between
>Miscellaneous Nightreign Datahttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4
>Group Passworderg
Touch Bloodstain:
>>530889585
>>530925179 (OP)Can you spank a doll, or no?
Why is the Revvie confused
>>530925179 (OP)>Alternate pass if you don't want to play with discordniggerg
>>530925401Thank god they finally fixed the giga lag if you open the menu after the NIGht lord is defeated
>>530925401>multiple 3bars>zero flaskserm
>>530925316Someone threatened to spank her and she's trying to explain that:
1) she's not a kid
2) she can't feel pain
3) she can't feel embarassment or humiliation
>>530924543>All casters can do more damage and have more uptime on damage, it's just that they're also dependant on rngYou have clearly never played in any good all melee comps yet.
Birdman actually is very powerful
A random raider left at day 1 but we still managed to duo everdark knight
Stop birdman hate
>>530925579guardian is good into fulghor because his shit is conventionally blockable
>>530925715>>530925579I wouldn't say guardian is good into Fulgjor but rather he is one of the bosses that Guardian has an easier time being able to block.
Blocking isn't all that helpful to your team
>>530925579Duo is great for the tanks because there's less aggro splitting and lower stance thresholds. Tanking actually means something when it's just you and one deeps.
>Elden Ring Greatshield gameplay
>impenetrable fortress, can just hold block against endgame and DLC bosses, Fingerprint has great elemental resistances so almost no chip damage
>high STR to wield Greatshields means high damage with heavy infused weapons, that can be anything from rapiers to great lances
>can use the deflect tear on top of all that for super strong guard counters
>regular roll
>can 2h or dual wield any STR weapons if needed
>Nightreign Guardian gameplay
>get guard broken by random mobs even when using greatshields unless on the shitty stance, even purple shields have terrible resists
>no damage, lowest scaling of all melee characters
>no damage bonuses for guard countering from class abilities or passives, can do a charged guard counter with one weapon type and that's it
>worst roll in the game
>often forced to dual wield halberds to deal any damage, which looks beyond retarded
I'm just glad that Raider/Colossals didn't suffer from the same fate.
>>530925960yeah that's what i mean
>>530926087if you could get guard counter latent powers on relics this would be a different story
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why is it only 2/3 passives are actually useful?
>>530926087This may shock you anon but you're supposed to do the shield stance of Guardian. That's 1/3rd of his character.
if you don't get an average of 950k runes per game, you're chump change.
based on where we find their armour, which class made it the furthest? Confessor garbs are found in mt gelmir, for example.
>>530927478you never find the wretch's armor so they became Elden Lord
>>530927478samurai is in dragonbarrow which is a high level area
anyone else feel like they're throwing if they go down even once?
>>530927478vagabond (wylder coded dude)
>>530927478>>530927632You can get Wretch by equipping any armor and then taking it off again.
This proves all the other classes are just Wretch NG+n runs
>>530927735he made it to mountaintops which is pretty good
>>530927698But that could mean he got lost too
>>530927735That brings up an interesting question. Do any of the Nightfarers have what it takes to be Elden Lord? Or a more pointed question, how far does each Nightfarer get, in Elden Ring, from the Chapel of Anticipation?
>>530928132guardian could never be tarnished because marika hates anything overtly to do with the crucible
>>530928132I think lorewise they are all worthy, but their personalities might cause them to sway from the goal of becoming the new king consort
>>5309277181bar is just a free heal
anything more and you're throwing
>>530925234If you want splinters stuck in your palm then sure. Spank away.
>>530928132They're all stronger than the tarnished
>>530928132Raider doesn't care about anything except fighting, but without Marika coming down to seduce him herself like she did Hoarah Loux, he'll just set up shop in Limgrave and help stray Tarnished now and then.
I think Executor is the only one who really has a chance, not because he's better than anyone, but because of his admiration of the Erdtree.
all my PS sisters are eepy...
Which mechanic should have the Elden ring spiritual successor
>Thirst bar
>Bullet time when perfect dodge roll
>FFV-like class system
>Something like Megaman X that if you defeat one boss the zone of other boss change a little
>>530928659Oh damn. That clever brat is spankproof.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T928kJvqTlo
>>530928959deafeating enemies by landing on them should squash them flat like in Mario
>>530928264>guardian>not the guy larping effeminate Crucible Knight that can turn into a crucible dog
>>530928959Fingerless glove meter
>>530928959Arousal status, works like madness, look at a female for too long and it builds up, let it hit max and you push her down and rape her, works on bosses too
Should I do a glass cannon NG+ run with sore seal, scar seal, scorpion charm and Rakshasa set?
>>530928959Black myth wukong style perfect dodge that leaves a exploding shadow and parry mid combo mechanism
They tried to make the fights more """exciting"" by giving the bosses endless combos which are just shit, when if they wanted to keep the fights good and dynamic, they should have gone sekiro or monkey games route
>>530896182Are you atleast working on it?
Is Bell hunter/ Elmer of the Briar buffed in N**htslop? I can't see how he could be such a problematic run ending meme boss in Nights lol when he was perfectly manageable in Elden ring
>>530930657sometimes this guy just dies when he falls off the horse, idk why.
>>530930567it's less that he's buffed and more that his red-eyed variant spawns in the same location that a bunch of low-level shitter bosses do
it's like the equivalent of trying to kill the dragonbarrow one straight out of limgrave in base ER
>>530930756anime is so weird
>>530930712just like in real life
>>530931083"Look"
You seriously should be able to figure out the rest if you play the game.
>>530931083There's no need for a translation, retard
>>530930712It has to be intentional since it happens almost every time. Same with the redmane on the tower dying to fall damage, it is intentional.
>>530928959>>530930354The grab counter in nightreign is already getting pretty close to a perfect dodge kind of system. Wouldn't be surprised to see it be expanded on a newer game.
>>530930657darkness wylders are always so cool
why are all of wylder's skins are just recolours with the tiniest barely noticable change to the helmet
>>530927914how is that relevant? they all got lost and died
>>530928132none of them have the ambition to take the throne. in terms of powerlevels they're all off the charts honestly
>>530931443I use remembrance the most. I just use Darkness that run to match with my Duchess
>>530931391cute vamp
Why does a large percentage of people use the t-pose gesture? Is it some way for discordtroons to signal to each other?
>>530931504Because all characters are like that
>>530928959DEFLECT
GIVE ME FUCKING DEFLECTS
>>530931607Not Revenant, she gets the best most unique skins
>>530931601idk i just block all the ones that do
>>530931601when games glitch out, characters usually do a T pose so it's just a funny thing to do with your team
>>530931601Are you retarded? Golden Order Totality homeslice.
>>530931601T-posing is le funny so normalfags love using it. It's not that deep.
>>530931702No one calls it that 'cordxister
>>530931601It's just an emote?
>>530931656No she doesn't. Look at the little mike outfit and it is just the normal one with a head shawl. Look at the darkness one and it is the same as her normal one but black.
Every character's dawn/darkness variants are 99% the normal outfit in different colors. It isn't just wylder it is for all of them.
Even Raider's giant boar head darkness skin is still just his normal skin in a different color and different headpiece.
>>530931593>my Duchess Not beating the sex pest allegations, Mush
>>530931776Its fine if you didn't know that is what the gesture was called tourist.
I don't know if it's optimal, but playing skill spammer Duchess is pretty fun
>>530931790>statement followed by a question markGet your test levels checked bro.
>>530931920It says what it's called in the menu, but no one calls it that outside of loretrannies like xherself
>>530930567It's motly the castle basement version. His red eyed version is strong enough to one-shot most classes even on higher levels without damage negation, and the small room +the pillars with the fucked up camera doesn't help either.
As a field boss or top of the castle where you cna actually see what's happening he's more than doable.
>>530931993>Get your test levels checked bro.I can lift more than you
>>530931993I told you its fine you don't have to cope at me like this.
>>530931851I plead the fifth
>>530931827>it is the same as her normal one but black.Brother you need to get your eyes checked
>>530932072Deserved. I don't like xer posts.
>>530931941try caster duchess! its amazing if you find full moon or even a basic spell like the shotgun into restage
>>530931941Carian Slicer is your friend.
>>530932072>allegedly high tier Revtard>dies from just runningSo this is the true power of doll cope?
>>530931941easy on the baked goods
>how it feels pretending I don't main Executor when my friend who's lukewarm about anything that isn't Marvel logs on to play and only plays Executor for the "parry god" high
>>530932707friends don't let friends throw runs. slap him.
Will I get my ass banned from the erg que if I pick rev and I only have one game on her?
not sticking around for long, I got yet another ban for RESPONDING TO a post, about DEI specifically type A and B in Elden Ring
and then another while I was banned, somehow, for typing in the feedback since there is no "the mods are assholes" section to report them anymore.
I'm leaving. enjoy your corpo israel cocksucking website
>please wait 120 to post
and I won't miss you.
posting the thing again because I just don't care anymore and I hope you kill yourself one day.
>>530932781No but we will be having sex after beating the boss, the amount of times you go down will increase how much I hate fuck you
>>530932772if you mean me my winrate is fine on other-
nvm i just checked im actually fucking dogshit
>>530932972alright my recent winrate isnt so bad though
Was that Cerberus nigga put there as the first boss to drive the point that the game is made for multiplayer? If so, then fuck. Got cheesed with Ironeye on coop and I'll never look back. I assume I can truly play solo now that that bunshin dog is out of the window.
>>530932852I'm not negative gaming I swear
Cum now, touch the erect penis and travel to the realm of pleasure. I will not be far behind. We will meet again.
>>530933119If you can't solo 3dog, you will keep on struggling
>>530933154Cute virgin rev, lets play together okay? I'll be gentle
>can't play nightreign on family share anymore
what the fuckkkk
>>530933208>what is maris
>>530933208From what I've saw, only the beamspamming faggot is as spastic as Naruto dog.
>>530925316not enough doll sex
>>530931601it looks funny
>>530933318A huge roadblock for new players that can't figure out how the fight works and don't bring ranged?
>>530933419literal snoozefest
>>530933234okay, later bby I'm busy now
>>530933419>element start on Ironeye>+Elem ATK upsCouldn't be that bad
friendly reminder to rev pickers to not fucking summon the pumpkin head during bossfights or i will stand afk till it dies
>>530933208That's okay, Queen Marika hopes that we continue to struggle unto eternity.
>>530933613>or i will stand afk till it diesso 3 secs?
>>530933613this nigga can't deal with crystalians when there's a pumpkin on his screen
>summoner character
>all summons are paper thin unlike levelled summons in ER
?????
If you start to throw the match by picking Rev, I will lowkey sabotage the run.
I might show up a bit late to boss fights, I might ping things in a way that leads to suboptimal routing, when you go down, I might *miss* my reviving attacks in a way lock-on could be blamed, I might aggressively go for ever gaols, I might just waggle my stick around, I might attack the wrong boss, I might prioritize flasks above all else...
I will not buy you candy because I need to buy stuff for myself.
Just little things that could be excused by being a mid player, but now you're left wondering if there is more to it...
>>530933606Nah, it's fully deserved and very funny.
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>>530933771I'm not left wondering anything because I don't play with you faggots.
so who is slandering revenants? eu lunchtime or early morning west coasters?
>>530933156i dont know what this means other than "i associate rev with cunny"
which like, based, but what the fuck is a cunnybell and why are you revving it
>>530933867chasing you dumbass
>>530933867Dogging around.
>>530933854Is it slander when it's true?
There is nothing it can do another class can't do better
>>530933867Taking a shit.
>>530933970I cut the part where we looked for 10 seconds as he was missing from his default location because I figured people would be smart enough to realize he's clearly coming from past that ruined wall, retard.
>>530934190he spammed dodge twice and ended up on the other side of the cliff
Nightreign would be aperfect game if it wasn't for the PUBG zone shrink shit
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>>530933613sorry, I might do it.. gives me damage sometimes and helps stun..
>>530934281Most likely, just pretty nuts, he was pretty far from his spot
>>530934491matches already last 40+ minutes even with good players
without shrinking it would be ass, nobody has time for 2 hour matches
>>530934491Whoa, hey buddy, that's actually extremely wrong.
Nightreign would be a perfect game if there was a PvP mode/arena and if maps, bosses, and queues were *actually* random instead of pseudo-random.
It's 9/10 as is though. I'm just scared the fun will run out.
>>530934582I love Revenants
>>530934491game would be way too easy otherwise, people would just farm forever then go to day 1 boss near lvl 15. unless maybe they added to the map overlay area lvl, then players can make choice to try beat an area underleveled or just progress to the next day.
>>530932843lmao bye chud, you lost
>>530934491>>530934651Nighreign would be better if it were a 4X turn based strategy set in Star Wars and using AD&D rules for combat encounters.
>>530934736Not him but lol you lost at the ballot box and gaming is going through a crisis because in great part of how unpopular your ideas are.
>>530934491Horrible take
>>530934651>Nightreign would be a perfect game if there was a PvP mode/arena and if maps, bosses, and queues were *actually* random instead of pseudo-random.WYM pseudo-random?
Anyways I don't exactly ache for PvP, in spite of being a Bad Red Man
>>530934869>projection: the postI play old monster hunter games, obscure dreamcast emulated shit and rogueliked dude, I am doing just fine. There is only a handful of newer games that are coming out which I look forward to, like Nioh 3 I guess
I keep getting lucky with the whole:
>1 character skill/2 character specific slots
>1 or 2 flat stat slots
Like picrel, I will take it. Obviously this would be ideal if the Faith was replaced with Vig/End +3 like my others.
>>530925401uhmm why do you guys have 2 frenzy spells against the boss with 20% damage resist to fire..
>>530932843how the hell you manage to get ban while the damn dsg spammer manage to keep coming back everyday.
>>530935038>projectionProjecting what? Chuds are winning bidly in the gaming scene. Simply not going to be concord-types and win.
>I'm totally normal dude Stop concern-trolling them tranny-chaser.
>>530935165>hop on the internet>make anonymous post with retard claim>don't provide any evidenceit's really that easy
I will enter erg queue as a revenant soon, be warned
>>530935282Can you carry me?
Nightreign just needs an alternative mode where instead of the rain being time based, it's choice based
Each time you complete a boss, several other points of interest nearby get covered in rain
With as extra difficulty if everyone dies in a point of interest, it gets covered in rain
Would be a new approach to the game, rather than rewarding rushing through as many bosses as possible, it would reward carefully clearing out each point of interest and searching it for loot
I don't think I can lose to the everdark trio anymore unless my teammates do absolutely nothing
>>530935183>chuds are winning bigly>tranny tranny trannywhat are you, 17? Christ dude
I called him a lost chuddy because its funny to point and jeer at realpolitik-brainrotten tards like him
>>530935345I am the one who gets carried..
>>530935467i like that idea
>>530935520princess carry or piggyback?
>>530935643both are acceptable, I'll toss lightning spears or something from either position
>>530935467There's still the problem, like an anon said up there, the games are 40-50 minutes as it is with completely rushing. A gamemode like your post, as fun as it'd be, can go on for at least 90 minutes.
>>530935467and defeat the entire point of "hop on a quick ER session". So it almost definitely won't happen, unless Bandai bullies them into expanding the game. I wish the game was more loot/build based, so I'd like that
>>530935980>I wish the game was more loot/build basedunironically not enough cool rng for long term playing
100 hours in and you've basically seen most things
>>530932843moaned @ the idea of someone mad about DEI being nerdmad, thanks for the orgasm
>>530934846i'd take 4x nightreign
>>530934908you select the boss you fight at the end, for one
generation is not random, there are a limited number of seeds (double digit) per boss and within those seeds there is massive overlap (like each Nightlord only having two or three Day 1/Day 2 bosses
keeps, camps, ruins all have 1 or 2 bosses by type so you say "ah yep thats a fire camp I know that can only be chariots or redmane knights", could use WAY more than just 2 variants, especially if we're willing to use "Elite Soldier" as a boss for some of the camps
shifting earths no longer being random after heolstor fucking SUCKS
as far as pvp goes I really just want to deflect players with Executor's guard, though DS3 arena brawls were some of the most fun I've ever had playing video games
replying to multiple posts is troon energy
good shit bros that was easy
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>>530936308yeah im trooning out rn
>>530935183this u
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>>530936432rest well eepy
>>530933660the single digit Iq rev will usually ult when the screen blocker is alive so thats 20 seconds of me standing on the sidelines watching your summon do 5 damage per swing (it swings once per minute)
gg executor and ironeye
I swear centaur gets easier every time
>>530936229>you select the boss you fight at the end, for one>generation is not random, there are a limited number of seeds (double digit) per boss and within those seeds there is massive overlap (like each Nightlord only having two or three Day 1/Day 2 bosses>keeps, camps, ruins all have 1 or 2 bosses by type so you say "ah yep thats a fire camp I know that can only be chariots or redmane knights", could use WAY more than just 2 variants, especially if we're willing to use "Elite Soldier" as a boss for some of the camps>shifting earths no longer being random after heolstor fucking SUCKSEh I just mass-select everything unless its a shiny new Everdark boss so it works fine for me
Then again I also just used Short Ritual Chalice in BB
>>530936350im not your bro, sis
>>530936541hey that's me
I'm single digit iq rev
>>530936645yeah rn im just queuing everdarks for the currency which is kinda rough cause they're only rotating them in bits right now (which i like for content, bad for random generation)
queuing for "everything" in that sense is queuing for 2 which does not feel random whatsoever
it would make sense if i didnt care about the currency, though
gg revenant
for anyone who has a morgott invasion, you can see the red orb on who is being targeted. if you are being targeted, do not stand on a grace, since any enemy (like margit) on or near a grace will deactivate it
also do not run into the courtyard with pot trolls if you are the target of a morgott invasion
tl:dr, go somewhere where it won't be ass to fight morgott. not sure if people are panicking, trolling, or like the challenge, but i frequently see people pick the absolute worst places to fight morgott
>>530937012who is crodie talking to?
>>530935898>>530935980Oh yeh I didn't mean for it to become the main game mode, it would go on a long time and the idea behind this would be that you "can" play it with randoms, but generally speaking it's a mode for at minimum password teams
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man if this was +1 use instead
so the end game of the relic gacha is:
>roll a perfect relic after spending 5 million murk
>a paranoid schizo from erg screenshots it and posts it here saying its cheated
>you are now blocked from the password queue
Hmm, today I will fabricate scenarios in my head to get upset over
>>530937054>who is crodie talking to?>for anyone who has a morgott invasionyou a bot or something?
>>530937170do you know who crodie was talking to?
No one "has" morgott invasions, its a thing that happens.
He might as well also say attacking things is good.
how about multiple everdarks in a row with no flask replenishment
that would actually be kind of hard with erg even
>>530937287whoever wrote this bot needs to work on it a bit more before having it go public, i can't understand what it's trying to say
>>530937397You are really insecure about anonymous posting lol.
>>530937332make it one flask for each everdark defeated
nice staggers wylder chads
>>530937536He probably thought the bot thing was clever and not insecurity. Probably severely under socialized and didn't realize how it looks.
I wish Wylder had some skins that didn't just look worse than his default/remembrance.
Real ER has almost caught up with Nightsloppa's player numbers
Nice
>>530937536every other post here, even the garbage ones, is easily understandable except yours, and you don't even sound like a non-native english speaker, you sound like a badly programmed chatbot
nobody says "crodie"
i was obviously initially talking to the revenant i had played with, since i started with "gg revenant"
when someone says "has a morgott invasion", it is referring to players who experience a morgott invasion event while playing
"He might as well also say attacking things is good." is actual illegible gibberish
>>530937536>>530937751sorry, not trying to be clever, trying to give feedback on what is either the poorest attempt at communication i've ever seen or more simply a poor quality chatbot
why even respond to someone talking to people they just played with if you weren't one of those people? weird behavior
>>530937751nta but that did really look like a bot
>>530938071both of
>>530937751>>530937536are the same "thing" posting
i am actually jesting about it being a bot, i know it's actually just some attention-starved schizo or tranny or brownoid or other flavor of subhuman that isn't here to talk about games at all but to just be annoying
Man I just realized the Ancestral Followers consolidating power into the big deer spirits is their own version of Gate of Divinity shenanigans.
>>530937901Ain't been interested in going back to Elden Ring. For however much Nightreign repeats itself, I don't find myself like I did with Elden Ring wishing it were better at every fucking turn.
I got Nightreign yesterday and have been playing it since. Fun game, but it seems kinda too easy. You can't really fail in day 1 or 2, and even messing up and dying is barely a setback. The nightlords seem to be the only challenge, which is a shame considering they're at most only like 10% of each run.
>>530938235Sort of like a passive version of the hornsent and their divine beasts. Adds extra irony when you learn who the ancestral followers are.
>>530938235But in what way is Nightreign even better?
>>530938561nta but i'm not playing base NR until i can get recluse imported into it
I get that the bell bearing hunter is strong, but I wish people wouldn't chicken out so much from fighting him. We were level 10 at the castle and people STILL turned away and ran when they saw him in the basement, come the fuck on. He's not THAT strong.
>>530938626You can already do that
>>530938424>most of the fight is spirits fighting each othervery awesome
>>530938686only visually. i'm talking gameplay. all of the NR -> ER import mods so far, every single one, has gay retarded easymode changes.
>>530938561None
Nightreign exists for streamers and cosplayers
I wish Revenant had relics that changed her summons into some stronger, cooler versions.
>>530938678he really is THAT strong but yeah it's still no reason to be a little bitch
>m-muh but but it takes too much time its not OPTIMALwho fucking cares, the game is easy
>>530938561Less to get frustrated about. When I'm sprinting in Nightreign, I'm just sprinting. When I'm riding Torrent in ER, I think
>Man he's just a glorified vehicle. All that stuff about "Torrent has chosen you" and "Torrent had your measure from the start" is meaningless because Torrent doesn't actually have any character. They could have taken some cues from Shadow of the Colossus, and Miyzakai is a fan of Fumito Ueda, but they didn't.or
>Why do we take a stupid fucking teleporter to the Haligtree instead of having been able to climb down there ourselvesetc.
don't sleep on sonaf reclusebros the art slaps
>>530938561elden ring is a great game but if you want to have a complete playthrough you gotta allot hundreds of hours
nightreign is a short experience where you can complete a match in less than an hour and scratch that itch
>>530938857Yeah having to replay 40 minutes because you died to something you have never seen before is definitely not frustrating compared to a game not letting you survive a 100 feet fall because it wants you to find an acutal path
>>530934491let's be real it's gonna be boring
we just need more shifting earth and map seeds
>>530938847all the relics are way too safe and not roguelike enough. give me some crazy bullshit
>>530938984You can fight as many bosses in regular ER in 40 minutes as you can in Nightreign.
If at least there was the mixup argument but Nightreign is a failed roguelike and always has the same shit too.
>>530939010>we just need more shifting earth and map seedsyeah
but also why not reuse more of the bosses? the boss pools for everything are so damn small
I get not wanting to reuse story bosses and named characters, but there are still a whole bunch of other unused ones.
>>530939104>give me some crazy bullshitYou've probably never done the throwing knife build, or the throwing pots build, or the max arcane build (changes every class).
>>530939151what bothers me is collecting flasks and upgrade tools and shit
it's boring
>>530939254i'm actually looking for some good pot relics but i don't have any
max throwing knives is objectively shit
max arc doesn't work, it doesn't change hits to inflict status in most casts
>>530939151Not about fighting bosses, but having a complete playthrough of a game.
What is the purpose of giving the witch's brooch to the signboard? Just to dupe the relic?
>>530939346Max arc isn't about statuses it is about pumping item find high enough to actually notice drops happening. It changes how every class feels. Knowing you will have a brass shield as wylder or a jellyfish shield as guardian is dope.
Throwing daggers is shit, but its a wild build to test yourself with. kukris count as throwing daggers. Throwing stones build with gravity chunks is fun too.
In general, the goofball builds that aren't max arcane don't need to be dedicated builds. Putting the Fell Omen Fetish on as your 3rd relic makes your already established build now have a pocket throwing dagger option.
>>530937901ER's replay value is on a completely different level.
Nightreign doesn't really have any build variety and only has a small fraction of the content.
The relic system also doesn't change much outside of generic stat increases.
Nightreign doesn't even have a STR/FTH character, which is by far one of the most prominent archetypes in Elden Ring both amongst players and NPCs/Bosses.
gg Wylder and Recluse that fulghor fight was a disaster lmao
>>530939508In birdbrain's quest he can choose to break the brooch or not, the resulting item will be different. It is the only one or the other option in all the remembrances so you will miss out on 1 relic regardless.
The signboard option lets you alternate between broken and unbroken versions, not both.
>>530939593the codex doesn't say arc affects item discovery
prooves or stfu
I will be fapping to fat revenant now.
Reminder that if you queue with erg and you haven't cheated your relics to be as optimal as possible, we WILL block you for throwing. "Bad RNG" isn't an excuse to be a shitter anymore, and erg only accepts the best of the best.
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>>530939908stats don't work the same in NR
prove it affects item discovery
>>530939721I just don't understand the purpose if the remembrance is already completed and both of them have the same effects. Is it merely cosmetic?
>>530929598I thought about a porn parody game of Dark Souls in the past and came up with a lust status effect. Basically, certain attacks by enemies would build up the gauge and once it's full, your character is basically stunned by orgasming on the spot, losing FP. Enemies would be programed to take advantage of this by performing special grab attacks while your still stunned.
I was surprised when I played Elden Ring and saw that madness was almost exactly what I thought of back in Dark Souls III.
Two beautiful trans queens and one noob who hasn't had to try in a long while.
>>530939970even doe theres dozens of us
>>530939995different lore
>>530939995Different descriptions giving a more complete view of the lore surrounding it.
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>recluse used ancient magic to make the baby
>it's a humanity from dark souls
what did they mean by this
>>530940039sometimes hundreds
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>can't find a match with randoms on ps5
Is it over bros...?
>>530929598>a status bar that you want to actively increase ON YOURSELFcrazy that there is no such thing if you think about it
>>530940115ER is the ds3 painter's painting
>>530940246no, that's bloodborne
>>530940172what is seppuku
>>530940172Beasthood in Bloodborne.
>>530939970Are these good enough?
>>530940309BB is after DeS
source: i made it the fuck up
>>530940246Then why is ER neither
very cold
very dark
nor very very gentle
?
>>530940309Bloodborne is what happens when you delete Magic in Demon's Souls
>>530940346>rally>evergaol>taking attacks>prayerfulgood
why the fuck are you using baron relic lmao
>>530940172Bleed on Recluse with her relic. Once she has her period she gets angry and has more attack.
There's that Recluse relic that causes bleeding with art and increases your attack power. Does attack power mean spells as well? What about abilities like increasing attack power when there's bleed nearby, does that affect spells as well?
>>530940172Poison builds in ER would poison themselves to get the buff from the mushroom head.
The madness kvetching wants you to go loco
yem it up troon it up yem it up troon it up and then 'oop it up with the yemmy gemmy slurm bbc girl at tiff unf unf unf yeag
>>530940506"attack power" is all damage dealt
lord of blood exultation also increases general attack power too yes
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>>530940318I figured. I got dc'd from 4 or 5 my last few expeditions at the night lord. I haven't had issues this bad since launch and I am sick of not being able to finish a match
>>530940469I am addicted to seeing big numbers when I crit with a colossal and I do enough stance damage that I usually control when I can move for a critical on any enemy in the game regardless of who I am on a team with.
>>53094045099.9% of ER's reality is utterly cold and utterly dark since it is mostly about the cosmos. The points where it isn't about utter cold and darkness is the 0.1% that happens on the planet.
>>530940506"attack power" is a pure damage boost, no matter the source, so yes it works with spells/incants
I haven't played Duchess yet, how are you meant to play her? Just as a weaker wizard that jumps into melee when out of FP?
>>530940671she spams skills or sorceries and is invulnerable with dodges, it's very simple
>>530939151>Nightreign is a failed roguelike and always has the same shit too.Not really lol, you just don't play that many roguelikes as well.
None of them are bristling with insane variety and you can see nearly all the shit they can offer in first 20 hours EXCEPT traditional roguelikes which I am 99% sure you haven't played and don't account for when talking about "roguelikes".
>>530939254>>530939593I tried it.
Sadly consumable builds are quite skewed for solo as with coop the boss health pool rises but the (admittedly quite fucking impressive) amount of damage you do with pots/stones/knives/perfumes does not, due to limited slots you can take.
A relic that makes consumable infinite and make them cost FP or at least a relic that grants %chance to not consume them a-la Nioh would improve their performance dramatically.
Also Cuckoo Stones > Gravity Stones. Cuckoo does about 550~ damage and that's without any damage buffs.
Kukri are pretty good too.
Perfumes are semi-reliable to get, common drop from treasure chests.
>Nightreign doesn't even have a STR/FTH character, which is by far one of the most prominent archetypes in Elden Ring both amongst players and NPCs/Bosses.Even if they add one, it wont change the fact that all the STR/FAI weapons have been completely revamped to be almost fully STR. Same for DEX/INT weapons.
>>530940598I think its the multiple everdark lobbies. the game's matchmaking has been shitting the bed since that update.
You'd get errors here or there before but since the 2 everdark lobbies got rotated in the issues have compounded 10 fold.
>>530940671Same as all the other classes except she dies in 1 hit regardless.
>>530940635That 99.9% doesn't really make for a goodly home.
Paintress knows better than that
>>530940780The point is sort of that the painting takes on a life of its own outside what the painter wants. There's a whole reality in there that isn't seen from the POV of the painting.
Abu Gung and the pomegranate.
i dont understand how bosses just dont drop orbs so often. its like 1 a game. how fucking hard is it to program logic to guarantee a drop? between that and the completely broken lockon system i have no idea how this piece of shit was released in this condition
>>530939516Yep, cannon of haima is so fucking good at reviving, Revenants might want one of these too for the same reason
>muh failed rogu like
Why do I get the feeling the anons posting that have no idea about the Berlin Interpretation?
>>530941021revenants never want intshit.
>>530941015I've only ever had it happen in laggy games.
>>530941015>bosses just dont drop orbs so oftenhuh? that has literally never happened to me
>>530941096the damage doesn't matter idiot
>>530941021revenant can go fuck herself
>>530941015Happened to me once or twice. One of those times being when the match was giga laggy. Maybe its tied to your internet?
>>530941059never heard of it
>2008 dev conferenceokay, grandpa
>>530941152I never spoke about the damage. Revenants don't pick up intshit.
If you go down I'll use my claws to get you up.
>>530941059I am a retired Aralgeean
>>530940759, I am aware of what it is. I wish I still had that image for a quasimodo servant from Redeemer comics grasping a giant tome with "Berlin Interpretation" captioned on it lol
>>530941215Get off my lawn before I call Pthumerian Descendant
>>530941245man you are stupid
All the seethe Revenant causes here just makes me enjoy playing her more
All the seethe Revenant causes here just makes me enjoy fapping to her more
>>530941308i'm almost 40 just sayin you're gonna need to use a less obscure reference if you want someone to get it
>>530940759>None of them are bristling with insane varietyYou can play binding of isaac 100 times and never have the exact same enemies in an area
While not every game has to achieve that level, you can at least give half a shit to try maybe because it's not like the material for it isn't there. Souls has a shitton of bosses you can use for this type of game and it's like they insisted on picking the lamest ones too
>>530941317No he's smart not wanting to waste his entire fp bar doing something his r1 attacks do just as fast.
Rev players know they have the best reviving tool as their starter weapon, you don't know that.
>>530941438claws are dead slot
>>530938841>Nightreign exists for streamersi keep seeing a schizo in youtube comments repeating this phrase ad nauseum, you wouldn't happen to be that guy would you
>>530940924>painting takes on a life of its own outside what the painter wants.That's a bit of a cop-out argument when the lands between are clearly the center of the hypothetical painting.
Might as well claim Forza Horizon is that painting, just evolved.
I hate the damn merchant in this game so much. huge (20%) + normal discount (10%) relic and they still try to outjew me with the 99 pricing tactic. 30% discount for 5,000 should be 3,500 not 3,599 you damn frenzy idiots, go burn in hell. Marika is right to bury all your clan in the depth of sewer.
>>530941562It isn't a copout, its how all things work. You as a person are more complex than anyone is ever going to understand. That paradigm exists for all things.
The notion that there is more off the edges of the frame of a painting has always been a thing people have mused upon. If videogames are paintings on a screen people wonder what is over the mountain in the background. The theme of wondering about the unknown you know exists out there in theory has always been a thing humans have done.
>>530941390>You can play binding of isaac 100 times and never have the exact same enemies in an areaBinding of Isaac had about a DECADE of fucking updates and DLCs and expansions, if you wanna draw comparisons draw them to the release date version. And release version (or the flash version which I played ages ago) didn't have that crazy of a boss variety, not including the final boss (being always the same).
TBoI is also a HORRIBLE example how to run your roguelike, the metaprogression is absolutely dumb and you're better off minmaxing your unlocks with a wiki opened if you wanna have an optimal save.
>and never have the exact same enemies in an areaYou literally can.
>Souls has a shitton of bosses you can use for this type of game and it's like they insisted on picking the lamest ones tooDaS2 ones are an ass to port.
And they likely didn't wanna make the game feel too much like Dark Souls with ER dressing, but vice versa. That said nearly every non-remembrance boss IS in ER. I think it'd be better if they used remembrance ones too, but I understand why they didn't for muh lore reasons.
>>530941630anon discovers multiplicative stacking
>>530941630>>530941937if anything, you actually get a penny more than you're supposed to
>fromsoftware can't into floating point and currencylol
>>530941630He can tell you are a noyghtfarer and is giving you the vat all noyghtfarers receive.
>>530941630>raider main bad at math>blames jews
>>530942135The phoenicean guy blaming other semites is peak irony
>>530942135Just 3 INT things
>>530928959Almost every new mechanic in Nightreign AND Duskbloods needs to be in the next big souls game or I'm going to feel cheated.
>>530941506No but I doubt only that guy and me say that because it's literally what the game exists for
i still dont know how raider's skill work exactly? sometimes you tank a lot of hits and he does the slow all staggering wind up and sometimes he doesnt
is there a timer so that you dont spam it every time?
surely somebody has already figured it out right
>>530942516And sporting events exist solely for ticket resellers.
Sounds retarded when you act retarded.
>>530942602use your eyes
it's the long wind up when the ability icon is glowing bright blue
taking damage builds that up; once you've taken enough damage it becomes the strong version
>>530942602You haven't figured it out by playing yet? Damage threshold.
>>530942602After taking a certain amount of damage, the skill becomes charged and you can see something like a wind aura around your character. Using the skill then will trigger the stronger version.
It doesn't actually have anything to do with taking the damage during the skill specifically.
>>530942729>when the ability icon is glowing bright bluei have literally never noticed that
>>530942602>surely somebody has already figured it out rightliterally everyone but you. You might want to get a check up by a medical professional, unironically.
>>530942824Obviously lol. Schedule a doctor's visit soon.
>>530942902you literally only use that skill in the middle of a fight, not my fault the effect is barely noticeable
Kissing my doll wife while wylder watches
What are some guarenteed markers for a run failing
>>530943109lvl 2/3 invaders
>>530942992Everyone that misses what everyone else caught thinks it isn't their fault.
Schedule a checkup.
>>5309431042 boys kissing
that's hot as fuck
>>530943109>teammmate skips starter camp
>>530943109headless chickens
>>530943190>Schedule a checkup.why?
>>530943109having naggerman on your team
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erg is to good
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gg you twos
>you can force the final boss door to open and it resets a cheater's marais and vengeance stacks, completely fucking them over
uh oh sneedbros, i dont feel too good...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nightreign/comments/1lxyanq/this_is_what_happens_when_you_reset_a_cheaters/
>>530943109Somebody picks rev or bird.
>>530943454>the cheat actually leftlmao
>>530943104As the sloppy wylder, it was indeed very cute
>>530943336bad brain scrombles
>>530942516That would have failed then because nobody is watching that shit
GG Revenant and Ironeye. That felt like an easy run.
>>530943454does it reset legit buffs as well?
>>530942992there's a really loud visual and audio cue, even if you don't notice the icon
>>530943109recluse not using Arc on grouped enemies and using Arc on single enemies
>>530943451Oh wait before I forget
Rev, your ult stops deathblight buildup and it decays over its duration
You don't have to tank that
>>530943109>skipping the starting camp>skipping regular field bosses>picking up staff if there's a recluse on the team>not dropping weapons other people can use better>level 2 mine and they're not an executor Most other things can just end up being "shit happens"
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>>530943716was comfy enough despite the circle dragging us around a bit
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Just got this as a reward. If I ever play Revenant, I'm gonna be accused relic editing, aren't I?
>>530943109>evergaol relicsi'm stealing that stone sword key
the DLC Nightfarer's skill will just be the Firelink Greatsword exactly how the Soul of Cinder himself uses it, screenshot this
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>>530943964with that? Probably not
But I for sure will if I ever play with this equipped
>>530943964no, that's pretty whatever
post damage isn't even good on her imo, unless you get elden stars, so at least there's a hint of synergy there
>>530943734it does apparently, its a bug that affects all stacking buffs
>>530943878I realized, was distracted just now.
>>530943878>picking up staff if there's a recluse on the teamIf it has Night Maiden's Mist I am picking it up for earlygame and IDGAF, its as good on me as it is on Recluse. In fact its probably better, if I am Ironeye.
>>530943964That's a solid 550 murk right there. Nobody will ever suspect you got 550 murk off of a CE'd relic.
>>530944102Post damage is 10/10 on everyone but recluse and ironeye.
Since rev has such low hp you save on flask sips a ton having post damage recovery.
Her attack is also a huge arc so you can recover all the lost hp in an attosecond if you hit multiple enemies which you'll always do if there are multiple enemies.
>>530943964>holy attack power+0wooooaw
>>530943998>>530944065>>530944102I just realized it's not the damage buff on ult one. If it was that one instead, then what?
>>530896459That's awesome. Here's hoping more anons in this thread will find their cord eventually.
>>530944294rally works on spells so it's not terrible
>>530938841I need to see revenant cosplayers feet NOW
>>530944359Then the glaring flaw would still be the holy attack +0
4.5% damage iirc
rework cord's end the reward is ass
>>530944359still no.
>>530944436The time investment on casting usually makes the spell hit after the post-recovery window. Ironeye can also just have a sword in his left hand but it still isn't great.
Every other character benefits massively from post-damage recovery. It might be too overpowered honestly. A build with it and a build without it will play completely differently.
I don't like jump attack spam, it's lame as fuck.
Can I still play a raider?
>>530937901If only it weren't for their letting ER servers die all the time psyop to make people play their paid mod
>>530938235>Man I just realized the Ancestral Followers consolidating power into the big deer spirits is their own version of Gate of Divinity shenanigans.God damn. That is crazy.
>>530938435Are they refugees from the fallen Nox empire? Spoonfeed me pls if I'm wrong
>>530934582Jesus. 429 wins out of 490 runs. You must be insanely good at Revenant. What’s your build?
>>530942231We think raider is Phoenician?
>tfw played an absolute shitload of solo runs while new to the game pre-nerf and now people are wanking winrates
>>530943109more than one person picks Executie
>>530944663Yeah, of course. He does lots of other things besides that
>>530944587It was never about the loot, anon.
>>530944638>window is too longthat's just not true unless you're 0 stamina
>>530944923Norse-Igbo, his father was from Wales.
>>530945017I don't think about winrate at all. Onto the next expedition
>>530944663raider can use most quality weapons with the same AR as wylder, fist weapons are cool
>>530943454Lmao it even resets evergaol buffs, it's a tool for retribution but also for griefing
>>530945017that's right slut
Your winrate will forever be inadequate
No I won't post mine, just know it's higher than yours.
probably
potentially
>>530938857>>530938984>The only pro Nightreign arugments are based on having severe ADHDTiktok caused this
>>530944709Nah. The ancestral followers are called shamans so they are most likely what is left of marika's shaman tribe after hornsent collapse.
The interesting part is that they are passively doing what the hornsent were actively doing like a science. Where you can see a clear character flaw in the hornsent's supplication to their divine beasts you can see genuine reverence in the ancestral infant skull.
Just another background broadstrokes element that once again prove the hornsent deserved what they got. It also shows that Marika probably isn't a good example of a shaman, the rest of them didn't quite operate like she did.
>>530944923Do you think that? If you translate the fantasy game back to the real world influences spurring it the guy that conquered half the world's oceans in the bronze age would be the "sea peoples" that we now recognize as Phoenician raiders. I said it matter of factidly in my post because I assumed everyone could work back from the fantasy trappings pretty easily like how we all accept the merchants are jews based on the context clues. Everything with raider points to him being a sea people raider - a Phoenician.
you ever notice how Raider's pillar ult can do the same thing as the pillar made in the fallingstar beast fight? You ever notice how the fight plays out when you realize it works this way? Pic related.
>>530938561He has SOTE derangement syndrome (and doesn't understand the lore). Those "people" are not rational actors
>>530930354Eh, they already have the deflect tear in SOTE, which I used to great effect and much to my enjoyment. As long as they expand on that and are interested in more fluidity in combat, I'll check out their next entry for sure
>>530945337You're dishonest
>>530945353of course I forget the picture
>Hornsent deserve what they got
Marika is the one who made them start stuffing people into jars though
>>530945780what made you think that
>>530945353>they are most likely what is left of marika's shaman tribe after hornsent collapse.more likely a case of convergent evolution, since the ancestors are more "primitive" cavemen types that use blue INT magic instead of the holy FTH stuff that is associated with the Hornsent and Shadowland shamans. reminder that the japanese word for Marika's people that gets localized as "shaman" is actually the same one meaning "shrine maiden"
>>530945780No their culture was always fucked. They turned spirits into bombs before they even grew out of their most primitive trappings. They were always an inherently flawed people, collectively.
Their natural mode is spite and scorn.
>>530938561it's a comfy coop experience that provides a nice challenge unlike ER coop, and it's seamless
>>530945875shrine maidens are shamans. You don't understand etymology like you think you do.
Naturalborn means bastard.
>>530945860who do you think built the divine gate?
>>530945461>
NTA but NR is just more fun lol. Same gear, better combat, cooler characters and abilities. Faster, more condensed, more adrenaline-fueled, high octane. And it is tailored for coop too
>but muh customization!I am all for personalization, but I dare you show me your "original" build, it's likely gonna be
>cookie cutter stat spread>fashion is either waifu or worlds most blandest knightYour only point could be idk, invasions.
ER coop is seamless too if you never leave Limgrave lmao
>>530945353That is actually really insightful and I'm inclined to agree with you, this part about the ancestral followers being shamans. Regal Ancestor Spirit is such a great boss, especially the OST. I love the underground areas in general. Thanks for such an interesting answer.
>>530945545Jesus christ man, this is a lot for me after getting home from work. But I think you hit the nail on the head. I don't really give much thought to this stuff but I'm always happy to read from someone who is.
>>530938561Its genuinely fun, challenging, with secrets and variety.
>>530928959Hunger mechanics
Bosses will have a stamina bar so they can't just spam moves
>>530946069how does that relate to what you said
>>530946069Because they couldn't get to a higher level than putting a divine spirit into their strongest duo warriors.
Curseblades exist because the hornsent canonically jarred their own people at one point and it always failed.
>>530946067Neither do you. Vortex means Woe.
>>530946149it's not, you still need to do every cave twice if you want the loot
>>530946172There's a lot of mesoamerican influence in the lore this time too. Lots of feathered snake imagery associated with the nightlord and Quetzocoatl is the god of the dawn and dusk in mesoamerican faith structures.
There's even a concept in mesoamerican cultures called the Nahaulti. It is a person that is bonded with an animal spirit to give them a 'completeness' which we see happening in elden ring (and other souls games) pretty consistently.
Most of it is lost in translation as it is refined into a fantasy concept but the parallels are staggering.
>>530946664they have em as nightfallen but yeah
>>530946664That's just Rotted Woods without the trees though
>>530944923autists can't understand fantasy unless they equate it to real-world history. every race is actually an analog for jews or whites or chinese or whatever, and i will stretch the truth however much i need to justify it
>>530946174*evolves from a lowercase poster to an uppercase poster*
Use critical thinking.
>>530946217Jarring people is normal. Everyone does it. Marika genocided the Hornsent to cover up her own crimes, and then still kept jarring people afterwards and pretended it was a based and cool burial instead of a punishment.
>>530946664It's called Rotted woods dumbass spic e-beggar
>>530946664no.
More cities. Noklateo is better than any base game hidden city. Could do variants of Haligtree, Hornsent tower etc
>>530946664That's... That's Rot Forest?
>>530946760you said that marika FORCED them to do the jarring? what piece of lore led you to believe that?
>>530946664Why couldn't you have written that sentence out yourself? Why did you have to attach a twitter screenshot for no reason that say the sentence for you?
>>530946664Nah we should get something really cool like a mohgwyn / ancestral woods shifting earth.
>>530946664*Clap* More! *Clap* Shitass! *Clap* Poison! *Clap* Swamps! *Clap*
>>530946856he's a zoomer or below, writing is foreign to him
>>530946856Because it's funny showing off they're dumb and don't know that it's already a thing
>>530946760Marika jars people because she grew up in a culture that jarred people. You can see a repeated pattern of the failings of her empire being borne from the failings of the hornsent she learned from.
You don't hear of jarring from ravenloft or eochiad or the reedlands or the badlands.
>scarab runs away and I miss my running attacks
alt f4
>die twice to the same enemy
alt f4
>open first evergaol on day 1 and it's some retarded enemy
alt f4
>miss the jump against the fire chariots 2-3 times
alt f4
>level lost
alt f4
>level lost (locust)
alt f4
>morgott invasion
alt f4
>troll castle + bell bearing hunter in the sewers
alt f4
>3 churches on 3 different corners of the map
alt f4
>mountain shifting earth
alt f4
>>530946689Color coded infograph and everything! Thanks anon.
>>530946172>variety>NightreignA bot posted this
>>530947059Thats not an answer
And anyway I think it makes more sense if they were building the divine gate already but Marika snuck in and used it
>>530947059post lore from the actual game, not your own prior post
>>530947236Why would she have to sneak in when she runs the place?
someone finally deleted the other thread
>>530947225>Discord names Oof
>>530947336That's not an answer and
>>530947271
>last chest I open right before night 2 has "successive attacks negate damage" for my dual-wielding build
I love looting
The old Souls community would leave when someone picks Ironeye because they don't want illegitimate free wins.
>>530947336still waiting for you to post some actual lore
>>530947447I don't remember ever seeing those names before.
>>530947406Hey, I know you are new.
Just wanted to tell you that threads that fall off page 10 are archived!
>>530947447What's the difference if the Discord is made up from the same people as from here?
>>530947504nice no true scotsman sister
>>530947541i've been here since 2006
Fulghor's attacks are so retarded, how the hell did they think it was a good idea to allow him to spam his dogshit malenia impression tardout
>>530947504low HP is a good way of balancing strong ranged classes. People still get hit and struggle with Ironeye and Duchess
>>530947475>drop weapons with successive attacks restore fp and less fp needed for skills passives for duchess and revenant>retards dont even pick them up probably because they are regular weapons was with erg too, dumb whores
>>530947453>>530947536You're supposed to use critical thinking. Who was the leader of the Hornsent during Marika's time. It's never mentioned, so who could it be? There's only one answer.
>>530947609aztec lore is sick tbqh i used it for my ancient evil in my ttrpg campaign
>>530925316Because the artists drew the wrong eyebrows on the wrong sides.
>>530947604moving a pig from one place to the other, still makes it a pig
>>530947734Who was the leader of the merchants?
>>530947660I guess a lot of people are so clueless they never consider weapons being dropped for the passive rather than the weapon type itself
>>530947734>devil's proof argument
>>530947753I really hope we get some kind of Jaguar warrior guy that uses clubs as a nightfarer.
>>530947841Arguably Shabriri but they disowned him as a cope.
to that guardian in the everdark fulgore match with terrible pathing that 3 bar'd immediately and folded at every boss and also spent 80% of your time alive in the final boss fight practically afk, sitting on a warming stone only to three bar again
fuck you
>>530947734let's not forget how you haven't posted a single piece of lore to support your theory (because it doesn't exist)
>>530944780wdym build
I just get carried a lot..
seriously wdym build, relics?
>>530947841Make your choice.
>>530947734>It's never mentioned>There's only one answerIf it's never mentioned then it could be basically anyone, unless you have some wikibrained perspective that only explicitly named established characters can fill roles in the societal structure of a fictional world
Do "attack increase per evergaol" passives stack?
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>>530945353>Nah. The ancestral followers are called shamans so they are most likely what is left of marika's shaman tribeNope
>The interesting part is that they are passively doing what the hornsent were actively doing like a science. Where you can see a clear character flaw in the hornsent's supplication to their divine beasts you can see genuine reverence in the ancestral infant skull. Every single culture in the Lands Between treats the dead in a way that makes them converge.
Dead spirits were guided by Rosus to the Crucible and then wash into the Realm of Shadow where the Shamans would grant birth to the newly formed larval tears growing among spiritgraves through the Rune of the Unborn, while the most valiant bodies and souls were burned in the Helphen Keep as Hero's Burial equivalent.
The Ancestral Followers are separated from Marika's Order and replaced that process with convergence into aspects of the Crucible that can resonate with spirits
>>530938235>Man I just realized the Ancestral Followers consolidating power into the big deer spirits is their own version of Gate of Divinity shenanigans. Took you just 3 years to realize Elden Ring is about Casuality and Regression, with the many coming from the divine and being sacrificed to reach up to the divine.
What did you think Rykard was doing?
>The hornsent deserved what we gotYou retarded Plebbitors are completely clueless. Marika used the Hornsent herself, with Leyndell being an ally of Belurat during Godfrey's lordship, and subsequently betraying them and dropping spiral tower culture for Golden Order Fundamentalism.
>>530944709>Are they refugees from the fallen Nox empire?Lol????
>>530947894Yes, the weird madness spirit that isn't a merchant was definitely the leader of the merchants before madness came to the world
You are dumb
>>530947734>Who was the leader of the Hornsent during Marika's time.Either Hornsent Grandam or Midra before the Inquisition turned on him. Both have some good evidence showing they were important people in the culture.
>5 gaols and Libras power with 200k runes
oh my
>>530947637His longer combo has terrible tracking, you're meant to dodge behind him to avoid it.
>>530947971You haven't posted a single piece of lore to disprove it.
>>530947917>japanese in profile name>andy and leyley>guardian>name Ive never seen on erg beforeYeah, that's a block
>dlc character is revenant's human form which is a man
>>530948142You gave away that you're trolling with this post, too obvious!
Why does 4chan say the last gen' has 0 replies? I tried to check it earlier and it said it archived at 460, and now it's showing 0.
>>530948048You do know that the merchants use madness spells right? Them saying shabriri was spreading slanderous lies is them lying themselves.
The twist to merchant lore is they are exactly what you think they are in the end.
>>530948142a devil's proof is not a real proof
>>530948180What is this even supposed to mean
>>530948237because a mod deleted it and every post in it.
>>530948252>>530948235*Starts rollspamming the moment I ask for proof*
>>530948176i don't know if it was more amusing or frustrating watching fulgore do the sky rain attack knowing that guardian would instantly die because he clearly did not understand how it worked and would just sit under it without even steel guarding
>>530948317There's a skellington inside the doll. It could be a man or it could be a woman. There is no revenant before the doll mind you, it would be an entirely different person.
Boc the seamster or his mother canonically made every article of clothing in the Lands Between, because they are the only seamsters mentioned in the text
I'm still mad about this laggy desync dogshit run, give me back the 45 minutes of my life you just wasted FS.
>>530948054The other passives that don't stack are greyed out, are you certain?
>>530948406this is getting boring
>>530947631>since 2006if that were the case, you'd be okay with casual racism
>>530948339I actually believe this given current trends
>>530948546that's also a no true scotsman
from the completely and utter inability to argue without committing an informal fallacy, this is probably either a brainbroken west coaster or a zoomer, possibly both
>>530948442I glaze manual aim ironeyes like others glaze revs. Love seeing those guys sniping headshots like codpros.
>>530948064man, being a named character in ER must be so tiring, you're responsible for literally everything that happens in your immediate environment
>uhmmm achyally das a dat one logical fallyacy!!!
>>530946069The Hornsent?
The Hornsent who hunted Marika's people to extinction to stuff them in jars
The Hornsent who live at the base of the Divine Gate they obviously built by piling the bodies of Marika's race that they stuffed into jars
The Hornsent that worship and utilize the Divine Gate and its magic extensively throughout their entire civilization
The Hornsent who regard Marika as a hated enemy for taking the power of their Divine Gate.
There's absolutely nothing anywhere that suggests Marika had any hand in the creation of the divine gate beyond the obvious fact that her family is probably plastered into its walls.
>>530948747I love that it doesn't make you like unlock on, so you can swap between aiming and not really easily
oooh i was right on the money with that one
Surprised we did as well as we did considering how bad the drops were, but this still stings
>>530948804Warranted when the game structures it like that. Why is Midra's wedding painting held in Enir-Ilim if he is an apostate that is being hunted in an inquisition? Because he wasn't always an apostate.
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>>530948282think I have some updates to make to some of these sets
in general I just use whatever incant school is strong vs the boss or I feel like playing, usually the better ones if I don't trust my team at character select, or the very generalist ones
How did they know I was west coast and have brain damage?
>>530948891Oh look an actual argument. You're right that makes sense.
>>530948176presented without further comment
Which skins do you think look the best for each character?
For me it's
>Wylder
Default / Remembrance
>Guardian
Dawn
>Ironeye
Darkness
>Duchess
Dawn
>Raider
Remembrance
>Recluse
Darkness
>Executor
Default
>Revenant
Default
>Be revenant
>summon sebastian infront of boss
>use ult
>sebastian does nothing
>get hit, despite still having time on the ult, die
>okay fine...
>another boss
>summon sebastian
>teamate suddenly does down
>use ult
>sebastian does nothing, teamate does not get revived
>*sigh*
>>530948891No no no you see, the Gate couldn't have been engineered by someone the text doesn't explicitly state by name. It has to be one of the 30 characters we already know about. If not, I'd have to actually use my imagination in making lore theories instead of connecting red string on a corkboard to the same handful of photos
>>530949127hey I got this guys remembrance done, he didn't down i think when I ran with him at all tho, was a fast enough run even with a bit of scuffed routing for the remembrance
Do you like playing solo? Feels too lonely and "empty" for me
>>530949160stop playing on your third worlder wifi
>>530949147>WylderDawn
>GuardianDawn
>IroneyeThat guy with the hat
>DuchessDarkness
>RaiderDarkness
>ExecutorThey're all pretty ugly, but default, Darkness and Dawn look good while running though because the hair flows and stops being a greasy mullet for a second
>RevenantDefault
>>530949091i have 19 years of experience
>>530949127>jeet_throwing_himself_under_the_wheels_of_the juggernaut.mp4
>>530949127>That revenant getting hitlmao, cursed run
>>530949342Never tried it since the game is designed for multiplayer.
>>530949127whats wrong with being new to a fight?
>>530949342Yeah, playing with randoms is more interesting, since you get additional RNG on whether they're shitters or not, making games more varied.
GG bros. Not even a horribly laggy match can stop triple Wylder.
>>530949127>That blackflame whifThat's why you are simply throwing by palying rev, you need to get clooe to bosses to attack them, and getting close means getting hit especially with fulghor, as a rev you'll go down instantly then you are useless, pick a better class, atleast recluse has better range options for magic
>>530948992Lovely. Thanks for showing me anon! I love that one relic you have with the powered up allies and family on ult with max hp up with 3 medium shields. I actually love that on her cause it’s so much hp.
>>530948747manual aiming is actually always worse than just lock on shooting because the Imrpoved Initial Standard attack only works on locked on shots (you should have 3 of them slotted on your relics)
>>530949579Nothing, but ergchuds need their win streaks to brag on the internet, so they seethe if anything goes wrong
>>530949579More likely a discord troon trying to throw as guardian to support a meme.
>>530949669Headshots deal huge damage to enemies. Lock on to wormface and plink at him while I aim at his head. I'll kill him faster.
>>530945875"Miko" doesn't just mean shrine maiden--it's more complicated than that.
Shinto is a shamanistic religion. Miko are supposed to be the children of a local god and a human. They channel their parent deity in rituals so that offerings can be made to them, to appease the deity and get good harvests or avoid natural disasters or whatever, and channel their parent deity during the act of conception, so that their offspring will inherit its divinity and succeed them as Miko. They're the equivalent of vestal virgins in various ancient pagan religions--or the divine prostitutes of ancient Babylon (which is probably the intended comparison). This probably shouldn't be hard to wrap your head around when the phrase "divine invocation" is literally a centerpiece of the DLC.
This whole practice was outlawed like 200 years ago, which is why in modernity, Miko is synonymous with "teenage girls that clean the shrine part-time," but the "maiden" part of shrine maiden refers to their virginity, not to their gender.
It's a different nuance of 'shaman' compared to the indigenous "communes with nature" shamanism you get from WoW or other popular western fantasy, but it is still shamanistic in the literal sense.
>>530929236https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjltM2qv_0
>>530949653Are you a Revenant main?
>>530948957The wedding painting isn't there in every version of SotE. There are about 300 different "seeds" of the DLC that are randomly distributed between player keys. You just happened to get one that has it, in my game it's a portrait of a Divine Beast Warrior.
>>530949127>that full r1 chain + reprise doing like 200 dmgduchess sucks so hard
>Newfag doxxing and shaming
>Accusations of logical fallacies rather than simply providing evidence that someone is wrong
Atleast it isn't ERP
the "gradual HP recovery flask" should make the healing animation itself as fast as bloodborne to be good
no slow sipping, just inject directly into the veins
>>530929236>>530949875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWaB4PXCwFU
>>530949771>Headshots deal huge damage to enemiesyou're wrong but thats okay you can play how you want
>>530949579there's being new to a fight, then there's playing a the hardmode version of a boss while dying to the easiest to dodge of their easymode movesets as the hardest to kill character, taking full damage and dying 3,almost 4, times to the exact same move without learning, and doing all this while playing with the /erg/ password
it took me seeing others run away from gigadel in the phase transition once to learn the tornado gimmick and i am not smart or good or experienced as souls games
>>530949127You get what you deserve for playing on the erg pass with discord troons and newbies from fextra
>>530950005It's just bad either way. It's actually counterproductive. Slow healing should be a debuff and not a buff
>>530948493I hope you realize any names like that are getting reported by me for being unfunny
>>530950106Dude I'm not going to get caught in some faggy argument with someone that thinks getting headshots isn't worth it with Ironeye.
Try to agitprop post somewhere else.
>>530950127Zzzz go back to dsg
>>530950106i don't know about huge damage, but it makes pot trolls trivially when you shoot them in the head
>>530950159having slow heal, then drinking a flask and getting intentionally grabbed is a legit strategy that's why i am getting grabbed, i swear
>>530949819>It's a different nuance of 'shaman' compared to the indigenous "communes with nature" shamanismthank you for agreeing with me
>>530950106the standard headshot damage bonus is 30%, 50% for gladius. that doesn't outdo 3x initial standard attack but i'm not a fucking cheater
>>530949641you speaking of whiffs reminded me to make a webm of something amazing
>>530948493I just played a game with Naggerman and it was laggy too.
>>530949342I like it sometimes for challenge. I get scared playing solo and I feel lonely. I like playing with randoms more. Playing with friends is really fun, but it’s also too easy. Randoms keep it fresh and well random lol.
>>530950118That's why it looks like someone intentionally trying to throw the match after 45 minutes, which is something we deal with here.
Specifically centered around guardian copes for a specific reason also.
Nothing about it looks like it is actually some newb in our queue with us, especially since we know that leak was fake and didn't result in people joining our password.
Need your opinion, erg.
I won against Gigadel with randoms as a Guardian, which was nice, since I was on a losing streak with him recently. Now I want to go through all Nightlords with a character I didn't play a lot recently. Should I go Guardian for the guard counter fun (even though the game only gave me GC passives when I played Duchess past few games) or Executor for all things dex?
>>530949965you can't just make a baseless claim then challenge the other side to disprove it
>>530949965You're an actual fucking retard with that second point you God damn moron. I'm not arguing with made up shit or shit that didn't reply directly to the main argument
The only reason I go down is because I'm still locked in animation for 1 frame too long or targeted out of absolutely nowhere or am one pixel too close to the boss's attack range
All my downs are bullshit
>>530945353>Nah. The ancestral followers are called shamansShaman is the term used for those who can call spirits to them.
In the modern lingo they are just called spirit callers/wraith callers.
Both Marika's tribe and the Shamans of the Ancestral Followers can use sound to attract/call spirits, something that even the player does by ringing the bell of shitters.
>The interesting part is that they are passively doing what the hornsent were actively doing like a scienceYou don't understand Elden Ring at all. All of Elden Ring is literally inspired by the singular panel of Griffith piling up bodies to reach divinity. The Gate of Divinity was created WITH HORNSENT bodies for a Goddess and a Lord to be reborn. And Marika usurped their grace, which is why she's seen taking it from the bloodied funerary shroud that depicts the Goddess and Lord embraced in many statues in Enir-Ilim.
It's an HONOR to have your body used to create that Gate of Divinity. Farum Azula is literally made of Dragon and Beastman corpses. Recusants fight for the honor to join the Family of Rykard, the jars are meant to collect corpses of champions and then break to feed the spirits contained.
Only when this is imposed upon the other cultures like the Godskins taking numen flesh to mimic the ritual sacrifices of 7 Demigods Eiglay did or the hornsent jarring people for ascetic rituals this is seen negatively, and this unleashes hexing curses for which the Hornsent used special caterpillar masks .
Marika is every bit as responsible and left Messmer as sole target and veiled the Land of Shadow to escape such curses
>the hornsent deserved what they got.Nope, they are not any more guilty than any people
>>530938235The Horns just become resonant with spirits and wraiths, allowing the deer to absorb spirits. The Omen do unwillingly the same with cursed wraiths which in fact torments them. Malenia's lifesteal created a a similar entanglement of horns by collecting all spirits in Caelid for Miquella
>>530950441whichever works best for ya.
>>530950539I surprised you didn't mention input queuing.
>>530950361Lol, what goes through these people's minds?
>>530949752Only time I have publicly seethed at someone in here is when our executor got the fucking carian scepter and didn't drop it for duchess
>>530949579These niggas have 150+hours in the game
>>530948891>There's absolutely nothing anywhere that suggests Marika had any hand in the creation of the divine gate beyond the obvious fact that her family is probably plastered into its walls.Except the Gate of Divinity is made of Hornsent corpses
>>530950691That too actually, my raider skill and ults never activate properly when I press it after attacking
>>530950539i feel like executor's katana animations are the absolute worst, or maybe i am just that dogshit
every single attack feels like it has dead animation space for way too long and any enemy can react and hit me before i can block/deflect/roll unless i play like a superpassive reactive bitch
>>530949625>>530950365i have no idea what's going on. I play with erg often and it's only messed up today
>>530950578Very insightful and well-thought-out post, anon. The lore of this game is so incredibly intricate, and posts like these really help me to understand and appreciate it more.
Is there a reason people always take the red path to the left and never the teal path? If we go to this evergaol day 1 and we don't have purple weapons yet I always try to ping it but always the other people just go left and I have to either end up going down there alone or just give up and follow them
Idk if I'm missing something that makes this more inconvenient as a small detour
>>530950578>pic related>primary colors:>black and goldum, ackshually anon, the gate was made by maliketh
>>530950969His crits also take longer than anyone else because they wanted cool flashy animations for it. Critting with him feels terrible once you are past the neat animation mentally.
>>530948891>the Divine Gate they obviously built by piling the bodies of Marika's race that they stuffed into jars
>>530950932>the magical thing that makes horns grow has horned corpses in itWow.
>>530950538>>530950458Marika has a clear motivation for assisting in the creation of the divine tower as well as the fact that she was able to use it and knew how to use it. You are the ones making a baseless claim that she's entirely innocent in its creation.
>>530951157wouldn't that be a good thing for your team? long criting animations= more free dps
no?
>>530951138You have spoken the actual truth. Lorelets will try to refute this but will inevitably fail.
>>530951208So Miquella also helped make it?
>>530951208I don't know shit about marika
>>530951208where's the lore that points to marika forcing the hornsent to make the gate? post it
>>530951092Some tranny YouTuber said caves are bad and not all the discord sisters refuse to run caves
>>530951092Bad routing. I see the same thing but going east then west underground too.
Some people have 'evolved' past needing +2 stones so they don't want to ever go into a mine anymore.
Same people that route poorly hold onto their +2 stone until day 3 instead of upgrading on day 1.
>>530951060>leaked everdark soverign valiant gargoyle footagespoilers, anon
>>530951092not only that but right next to the teal path cave entrance is a boss spawn that can frequently be an easy boss, like scion or nightrider or that fucking cunt ass red dog
people take those paths and other bad paths because they are retarded
>character skill cooldown
>ultimate art gauge
how much do those give? are they worth it?
>>530951092I just don't want to
while we're talking about headcanons i like the slut marika expanded universe
>>530951282Not really, what tends to happen irl is you do a long crit animation on the last mook enemy of a camp and watch your 2 teammates run off to the next POI as you finish your animation.
You are now behind them, and will get further behind them with every crit you land.
On bosses you want someone else to crit so you can get free dps spam with bleed as executor.
>>530951398Literally nothing and no
>>530951398spreadsheet in the op
10% at +3
i'm losing my mind birdbros
>>530951092Only revenant keeps her starting weapon. Every other class chooses to switch to a found purple weapon.
Dogshit revenant, learn to play the game.
Seriously, people like that make me want to play with randoms again
>>530951551>clearly get deadangled>complainalso
>pick raider vs deadangles: the boss>complain
>>530951301Considering his powers, it's extremely likely that Miquella helped mind control the Hornsent into building the gate for his mom.
>>530951398They can be worth it but some characters don't even engage with the system so you have to think smartly.
Character cooldown on wylder with the +1 skill makes it something you can spam literally all the time. On raider it lets you combo chain your retaliates as your stamina depletes very cleanly.
>double grapple then jumping ultimate with wylder on a downed teammateorgasmic
>>530951551you gotta unlock camera and free aim at where the damage source will come from, which was behind you
>>530951092Only executor keeps his starting weapon. Every other class chooses to switch to a found purple weapon.
>>530951570>ironeye bow>guardian shield>skill gems on raider/wylder>status katanait's duchess and recluse that replace their weapon 100%
>>530951301He copied Marika, its original user.
>>530951313>>530951321Why didn't the entire hornsent country stop Marika from using it? The dlc trailers are publically available I'm not going to link them to you.
>>530951186Nope, the Crucible currents makes Hornsent corpses grow horns, period. Those are horsent that have been merged. Enir-Ilim is instead built by corpses of the Eternal City/Rauh, the fallen Empire that has a much more advanced architecture and culture and that. There's zero indication that the Hornsent used shamans to create the Gate of Divinity
>>530951636guardian i mean
>>530951092I've done that a couple of times
context of the run matters as whole matters
>>530951742Wylder and raider don't keep there's that often. They get too much value out of other relic effects
>>530951515Spreadsheet is ass to read. I hate google docs so goddamn much.
>>530951641my man you don't understand the timeline at all lol.
>>530951795that's another devil's proof, lol
>>530951795Nigger faggot I wasn't even apart of this fucking argument you nigger this is why you nigger faggot should have replied to the nigger you were seething over to begin with you stupid nigger
>>530951856im going on vacation, maybe ill unfuck it on the plane ride if i get bored
>>530951802I love those little stairs and doorways into alcoves on those statues on the right. Such a nice touch for the hornsent.
>>530951551Yeah, that's why guardian sucks, just like parrying you never know when it actually works.
>>530951795oh my god it's this faggot and his dlc trailers
lmfao
again, dude?
>>530951965it's a fucking schizo, he has a whole blog and website and begs for money for his takes on fromsoft lore, lmao
>>530951617what character do you main?
>>530951636I could flood the thread with like 50 of these
>>530951705>do retarded camera gimmicks so your character's main function, functionsdamn guardian truly is a meme
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you wouldn't fuck a doll, would you?
>>530952069NTA but I main revanant
>>530952008No it's not your fault anon. You've done great. It's google docs that is the problem.
>>530952123Nope. Anything else? LELKEK.
>>530952123I absolutely would, I wouldn't even touch a real human female, disgusting creatures, a pure doll is the best
>>530952123at this point I would fuck anything that consented
>>530951742a good passive is worth more than all those exept maybe ironeye bow because it's a bit harder to get bows with the right element
>>530952158>NTAlol
>>530951802Enir-Ilim was constructed by the Gloam-Eyed Queen using the corpses of the demigods her and her Godslayer cult genocided. You can't just make corpse architecture out of anyone, they have to have aspects of Divinity like the Hornsent and Shamans do. The Rauh people had no connections to the Divine, as indicated by their Golems and other mechanisms being powered by Meteorites instead.
>>530952240no it's not, it's the spreadsheet author who made the column width retardedly long and with and with no consideration for user experience
>>530951923>A video exists of me walking into the presidents office and setting off a nuclear bomb. Nobody stops me and I have the code for it.>I don't have to think about what the implications of that are, I can just parrot a meme "logical fallacy" over and over again and pretend that I somehow magically randomly got the code and nobody stopped me for no reason>>530951965Finally showing your true intelligence
>>530952302Maybe anon If you Capitalize even More words in Your posts, other Anons here Will take you More seriously
>>530952341you can imagine all the hypotheticals you want, that won't change that you haven't posted any proof from the game
>>530952302>You can't just make corpse architecture out of anyoneNox cities disprove this.
>>530952382I'm just copying the Verbiage of the other established Lore Schizos here, anon.
typing in all lowecase doesn't get you respect and (you)s
>>530952437The trailer is publicly available.
>>530952341Retarded faggot nigger
>>530952382I used to capitalise every word when I was a kid, it just looked better that way
>>530952461We are unironically used to the guy that tries to derail all lore discussion with woo woo nonsense. He has literally 0 effect here now.
When people start discussing the lore and it is going well someone always throws themselves on the tracks to try and derail the discussion.
The train simply barrels thru them.
>>530952461Revenant mains deserve frilly dresses and sleepovers at Yys' house
>>530951157there are no different crit animation durations lmao retard
gg Wylder and Wylder that was pretty easy
>>530952545>he thinks he gets respectLMAO
you get (you)s from people 100% calling you a faggot, a retard, and a nigger, and to kill yourself for your shit takes
>>530952557be specific
>use critical thinking>it's publicly available>[hypothetical]are not arguments
>>530952568I command you to recant your racist ways and delete your posts out of shame.
>>530952631This is my first time posting about lore here.
>>530952452The Nox are also related to Marika's people, so this doesn't disprove anything. It's all connected, maybe someday you'll see it for what it is.
>>530952635I don't wanna get molested by her boyfriend...
>>530952653gg Wylder, sorry for always lagging behind
>>530952785I'm going to rape you
>>530949651you won't really get 3 med shields often with actually useful passives
but it's a funny line I like
>>530952653>>530952847kek I knew it was 3 wylders when saw the first post
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Why Bell bearing hunter so cracked in nightreign? But really, fucker’s out here killing me in three hits and having a shit ton of health, fucking Elmer man
>>530952898it's basically a tradeoff perk, what if you ignore the rng passives and go for something you know is always good like extra damage/fp/hp
>>530952967gotta get those bells
can't be a weak ass pussy when you huntin' those bells
gonna get me some mcfuckin bells
>>530952740We know, it is always your first time posting here. We get a new anon doing the same thing every day its normal.
>>530952775No you don't get it, there are corpse structures all over the world because people have done various rituals to try and attain godhood using sacrifices. The divine gate creates corpses in sacrifice and the nox cities have it due to attempted nightlords. They aren't the same rituals at all.
Ever notice how Enir-Ilim is literally unfinished with its corpse pillars not reaching the ground in some places and the hornsent switching over to jarring shamans after they kept getting curseblades jarring their own people? That is all the evidence you need to show that the hornsent didn't always jar the shamans and weren't forced to. They chose to move onto jarring shamans.
>>530952967what i want to know is why they made pages in the poison ruins the hardest mobs in the game
>high poise>auto crossbow one shots you
>>530952631all lorefags are simply different kinds of retarded
>>5309529673 hits? One-shots many characters below lvl 10 or even higher
>>530952717anons like you aren't the ones I'm trying to bait with my Totally Plausible Lore Theories
>>530953150you're doing this shit for money and you're a fucking nigger for it
buy an ad
>>530953078Real, fucker isn’t even the boss of the poison ruins, he’s just there to fuck you up
>>530953078>be guardian>level 2>go to a ruins>it's a page+perfumer>R1 the page>it backsteps and in the time it takes me to get out of the animation it launches a volley and oneshots mei nearly fucking altf4'd out of sheer shame. like holy shit it's so strong.
>>530953019It's legitimately hard to find 3 med shields
thanks for the carry, I did not notice my golden lightning fort fell off and tanked the blast for fun
>>530953078Those guys are torch hollow tier. They will kill you out of nowhere
>>530953087Most of them tend to be educated autists with a small counter-culture of low functioning autists that rage against the educated ones out of spite or shame at their own ignorance.
We dealt with it a ton when base ER launched and anons that knew of esoterica and gnostic themes could break the game's lore down pretty easily and then that spurring a massive amount of copes from people that didn't know what esoterica was.
Crabs in the bucket phenom happens in almost all things.
>>530952728Okay let me break this down for you because you're pretending to be too retarded for a metaphor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6uT8wGtB3yQ&pp=ygUQc290ZSBkbGMgdHJhaWxlcg%3D%3D
In this trailer, Marika takes golden strands from an alien pussy and uses them to obtain godhood from the freshly created divine tower.
Let's solve one thing at a time. Why is nobody stopping her from doing this? Logical answers only.
>>530952302>Enir-Ilim was constructed by the Gloam-Eyed Queen using the corpses of the demigods her and her Godslayer cult genocided.Source? Your ass?
>You can't just make corpse architecture out of anyone, they have to have aspects of Divinity like the Hornsent and Shamans do.You, in fact, can as many in game everywhere do
>The Rauh people had no connections to the Divine, as indicated by their Golems and other mechanisms being powered by Meteorites instead.Rauh was such an advanced civilization that they build the Golem Constructs that are everywhere in game and the mechanism that protect the Catacombs. The affinity with gravity is exactly due to gravity being the downfall of the great Empire that was before the Horsent stumbled upon the ruins of it like Barbarians. The Eternal City was in fact completely destroyed by the spell of Eternal Darkness and the whole thing mirrors the Empire of Gaiseric which was destroyed by God overnight due to the invocations of the a sage that was held in captivity on top of the Tower of Conviction.
>>530951092Me and two other PSNanons took the cyan path after the evergaol last night
>>530952967He's got a complete moveset.
Close-range option, get the fuck off me move, constant long range aoe, one-shot drill option, large health pool, and on top of that spawns in an area with much weaker bosses.
>>530953319in the dlc we will have a sword and board guy
this was once revealed to me in a dream
>>530925316rev up the Revenant
>>530950181I'm sure it's because its unfunny and totally not because you are a triggered libtard, no sister! It's also a good thing it's not me or a friend of mine, then fag.
>>530953393nothing is worse than this fuckin asshole changing aggro midcombo
>>530953393i still fucking love seeing someone dip down the stairs of the castle and then immediately pop back up and leave. it's all I need to know to just turn around and do something the fuck else.
>>530953430I'm convinced the sword and board guy is going to be a prototypical Link translated into ER.
>>530953340because she killed them
if you really think i'm going to debate/spoonfeed you after you spent over an hour acting like a moron then youve got another think coming
>>530953481Why does the nightreign report button scare you so much
>>530953319the wood chest in the Castle talisman gatehouse almost always drops a shield, usually a medium due to how many more medium shields there are.
the Lordsworn soldiers frequently drop their Brass Shields.
and shields appear very often in camp boss orbs, which have agnostic loot tables that aren't class dependent.
>>530953489>in spell cast animation>bell cunt hunter suddenly switches and does charge attack towards me>can do nothing but accept my down
Gg Rev/Wyld sorry I was lagging behind
>>530952898you will never be
the
sweet kind caring
loving cheerful hopeful
amazing beautiful clever
innocent trustworthy forgiving
yume
none of that could ever describe you
>>530953553wylder already has the hookshot but yeah maybe
>>530953340>In this trailer, Marika takes golden strands from an alien pussyIt's a funerary shroud
>>530953553>>530953663shield surfing/bomb jumping pls
>>530952967>>530953393>>530953489bell bearing hunter and crucible knights are the hardest enemies in nightreign
not because of their moveset, but because the god damn wylder/raider that has aggro keeps rolling around him in a circle and taking his already wide swings and turning him into an unpredictable death tornado
>>530952967Was his name Elmer? Elmer in old english means noble but he’s not the noble of the briar, he’s just a bell bearing hunter, his lore is hard af, was there to executed by the guys of the castle he is in but he just killed them all and took over the castle and kicked out the remaining niggas and is now just chilling there
>>530953393I forgot he's also got a gap closer that also oneshots
>>530953568damn she just 1v1'd an entire country. that makes so much sense. i cant critical think! I can't critical think! its the devil's proof!
>>530952967He packs a punch while having near infinite poise.
But the main issue is that he has those giant range sweeping attacks, which can very easily clip everyone in the party, even ironeye or casters standing far away.
Plus he can do a 180 degree turn on his drill attack, which is frankly quite bullshit.
>>530953662>clever>yumesecondary
>>530953430That's literally Wylder or Guardian or any melee that decides to pick up a sword and board but the archetype already exists in Wylder.
>>530953579Why does the n-word scare you so much sis?
>>530953663I'm thinking he will have tool bonuses that are stronger than the normal ones. A unique throwing pot passive for bombs and his straight sword starting with storm cyclone for the 360spin link does, with a passive upgrade for sacred blade so it is now the maxed master sword.
Give him an unique flask upgrade bonus to simulate fairies in bottles.
Queue up niggas!
All bosses.
>>530953880she is very smart you just dont know it yet
>>530949669>manual aiming is actually always worse than just lock on shootingIroneye mains (real ones) play on a mouse and keyboard. They don't miss.
>straight swords
why are these even in the game?
>what if there was a shitty version of a greatsword that doesnt stagger
>i do not look like this
god damnit...
>>530952302>You can't just make corpse architecture out of anyoneYes you can, the whole point is that people are made of runes, or stardust as Ymir calls it
>>530954091I feel this way every time I think about Duchess' dagger
>>530953994she's pretty dead anon
>>530953078The 3 shot crossbow was always a killer in the base game, too. Remember that one corridor in Raya Lucaria? Always filled with bloodstains from people getting one shot by the page.
Fortunately Wylder rapes him easily, since you can just hook him when he backsteps.
>>530954207Yys is a discorder, she only uses erg
>>530952123nicer body than Ranni I suppose?
>>530951636You do realize deadangling is not intended right? Outside of pvp it was MUCH less common in previous soulsborne games as well. Genuine ER b-team lazy design.
>>530954091they are stance damage specialists. they are the best overall guardcounter weapon if you're using a shield due to the very reliable attack angle and extremely fast speed. you also get extremely good sword-specific skills such as storm blade and square off. i used one as a side weapon on my first playthrough (int build) and it was great.
>>530954260Well that guy is also a Leyndell page not a purple trash one so he's many levels higher than the rest of the enemies in Raya Lucaria. He's essentially a miniboss in a corridor with an uzi, not just some page.
Found out the difference when I wanted the golden page outfit but already razed Leyndell.
>>530953773Elmer is also the name of an esteemed hunter of late Western mythos, known for his curse to pursue an immortal shapeshifting lagomorph for eternity as punishment from the Gods for his insatiable lust for the hunt. FromSoft once again showcasing their profound understanding of classical literature and history
>>530954214Duchess with daggers is really good at proccing successive attack effects and rally hp recovery.
The moment I get that passive I just start mashing everything to death.
>>530954317made for big black tits
>>530954354it's bad design but you should be aware of it and try to dodge instead of standing there like an idiot
>>530954327No way, Ranni is absolutely perfect because she's completely flat
>>530954239>>530954393girls are better when they're dead
>ironeye
>teammates are revenant and wylder
>they're both pingers
>they ping different routes
>they both spam-ping
is this what its like to have divorced parents
also
>i don't ping all game
>we do rot forest without the blessing, killing all bosses before finding it
>we also do night 2 boss
>i find the tree with the blessing of rot
>ping for the very first time
>get spam-pinged by both who want to go to the fort to get the location of the tree that i already found
guys chill plz im ok being led and being a bottom but i never pinged anything, if im doing it there must be a reason
I used to dislike ES Adel because he moves around too much and the visual clutter but the tornado is a really fun and unique mechanic so I like the fight now. lmao3bug is still my fav
>>530946664>he hasn't had the caelid invasion event where SWARMS of dogs and crows rush you
>>530954571my condolences
>>530954527That Guardian isn't me but you are a retard making excuses for a gltich lmao
>>530954604>I used to dislike ES Adel because he moves around too muchsame until i found out he always just comes back to you
dont rush after him, let him rush at you
>>530954465I haven't seen any successive attack passives in two or three expeditions.
>>530954685i literally just said it was bad, illiterate. you need to play around it.
>>530954683they weren't all bad, one of them gave me radahn's greatbow
but they were super loud with their pings all game
What are some less obvious skill/art use cases?
I know Raider can stop a Fallingstar Beast charge with his art, and that his and Wylder's arts can also break the statues with smithing stones. What else?
>>530954828there's a noklateo skip with stela
>>530954828Sniping downed teamates from afar with Ironeye's ult, using Rev's ult to stay in the rain for longer
>>530954828wylder can do some acrobatic shit with his aerial ultimate. theres a way to do a skip to get into noklateo with it early or something but havent been interested to try
>>530954828Executor can parry tons of stuff you wouldn't think he can from nightlords.
That nigga can parry BBH weapon art spam.
Duchess has B Faith?
Bro drop that shit and put it in Vigor
>>530952123I want to kiss her.
>>530955008Yeah, it's pretty insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gziv3fzMVvA
>>530954828oh yeah, you can drop off the bird in crater and use two mark skill charges to go straight to magma wyrm
>>530954828Immortal March also affects trash mobs spawned with Necromancy and also makes them do their "super moves" like it does with Rev's family summons
GG Duchess and Ironeye. Volcanos are always nice.
Another Steam crash or it's me?
Smelter Demon is the most fair boss in this game.
>>530954828>I know Raider can stop a Fallingstar Beast charge with his artguardian can also stop the charge by simply using steel guard
makes you feel cool and powerful
Miranda Flower is the most fair boss in this game.
>>530952302Marika is the Gloam-Eyed Queen. The 'Gods" she and her Godslayers exterminated were the Hornsent's warriors. Remember, the Hornsent's greatest use Divine Invocation to channel the spirits of divine spirits from within the Gate. These are what were all-but wiped out.
Marika wielded Destined Death to slay all divinities but her own and claim the Gates power for herself, and then her Shadow turned against her, stripped her of the power she had used to claim her dynasty and made her the slave-goddess of the Greater Will, a puppet queen for the Fingers to rule by proxy. This was, of course, the plan all along. Maliketh's purpose was always to betray and enslave her, and she just didn't realize the trap until it was too late.
>>530955440>>530955493both correct if fair = absolutely nonthreatening dogshit
>>530955491>makes you feel cool and powerfulGuardian IS cool and powerful.
why this
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So, having played him a few times and even beaten a couple nightlords on him...
Is Executor just a bad character?
His kit is schizophrenic. I feel like they vastly over-estimated the value of his cursed sword deflect, and were afraid of making the rest of his kit good out of fear of making him overpowered. So you have a passive that might as well not exist because you never want it to trigger outside of maybe sepukku, and an ultimate ability that is decent but doesn't gel at all with the core character mechanics or concept so there is no synergy there.
And the cursed sword doesn't even seem to be GOOD. Let me be clear, my problem isn't with the deflects themselves. I beat Sekiro, I know how this works. My problem is that while its very SATISFYING to no-hit a field boss with well timed deflects, in Nightreign this is a losers strategy. You are wasting the most valuable resource in the game: time. You can only use deflect in a separate stance, which makes you slow as molasses and that you have to switch into, and your 'reward' for deflecting enough times is an attack that is only worth using at low levels. But the time that you are facing enemies where the ability to deflect their attacks is actually worthwhile, the charged up blade is nowhere near good enough damage to justify the skill and time investment needed to use it reliably.
I've had better katana guy runs on Duchess and Ironeye than on the character thats supposed to be built around them, because it genuinely feels like he's in the wrong game. Other than the dopemamine hit of the "wow, I'm such a cool gamer!" moment that comes from deflecting a bunch of attacks, the only thing he contributes is a naturally high arcane, which you can use without ever interacting with his defining abilities and indeed feels like you are better off pretending only his ultimate exists most of the time.
What am I missing?
>>530955658He is cool. He is not powerful. Needs some buff, or maybe rather others need some nerfs, because the game is too easy anyway.
>>530955560this is a good theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSRMWw8Y_0
>>530955118very cool but probably not viable outside of solo. and whats the point anyway? getting a bunch of high level weapons you cant use til day 2
>>530955560Very fascinating read. Love Maliketh's OST, so it's always cool to hear his lore is equally awesome.
I cannot read Adel at all.
>>530954760Even things like damage reduction at full hp and damage reduction after getting hit work well, because she can immediately get back to attacking, and her dagger moveset is so fast that it can recover even from bigger hits through the really effect.
>>530955756no no silly, all his power budget is in him having a real Arc stat unlike every other character, and in his ult which literally does everything. massive total damage. full heal. faster movement and better dodges than normal. heals allies. long ranged aoe. close ranged aoe.
>>530955560kek he even had his discord friends try co-signing
>>530955560>Marika is the Gloam-Eyed Queen.Yeah, there is no possible other option that raves about destined death that could fit...
>black character (recluse)
>furry character (guardian and executor)
>trans character (executor)
woke
So which one is it nowadays? erg or niggerg?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJXn357oVaY
I've been ignoring this vid because I figured it was just bandwagon shit and I don't know who the dude is, but it's pretty solid so far. Actually inspiring me to try more backstep dodging.
>>530955987not using a racist passie and erg is gennie culture so erg
>>530955987lol 2fa doing work
>the wylder
>the
so thats not his name? its like descriptor like "cowboy" or "mercenary"?
>>530955987I switch between both
>>530955987erg for discord/dsg/fextra/reddit
niggerg for /erg/
holy inorganic shilling, buy an ad.
>>530956097just like every other nightfarer
>>530955756>Is Executor just a bad character?yes but most people who play him just abuse broken status so they don't realize it. surprisingly, taking mechanics from a solo game (Sekiro) and dropping them straight into a 3 player game doesnt work out so good.
what they should have done is made his passive be the Deflecting Hardtear effect, and have his skill only be the "riposte" with his sword that charges on deflects like how Raider's charges on damage taken.
lmaoing at erg users
niggerg it is then, let's play
>>530956095catches him every single time
>>530956097They all are like that. The guardian. the recluse. The duchess. The raider. The executor. The revenant.
>>530955923So I was right, then. You play him for the arcane, and pretend nothing else outside of his ultimate ability exists. Just mentally blot out the other 2/3rds of his character sheet.
>>530955756No you are right, feels like they didn't know whether he should be a dex/arc edgelord or a dex/fth crucible samurai like he should have been, so he's kinda both and underwhelming in both aspects, but in total is a very safe middle ground. Not amazing, not terrible. Now he feels VERY undwhelming unless you are running a multi-stat starter/relic setup or dont get a good bleed drop.
>>530956154marika used her god powers to split off the gloam eye onto melina
>>530956265right
tho his passive is actually rather powerful, it's just ass to trigger
>>530956241>>530956262yeah but all the other ones are actual words with a meaning. "wylder" appears to be an in-universe specific term
>>530956358uncover the feet.
>>530956358Best skin in the game. She's literally me. If I were short.
>>530955964>black, trans AND a furry (Execuckolds)*
>>530955757there is not need for nerfs in a pve game
>>530955780spiderman (2002) was so fucking good dude
>>530956515he has such a weird face lol
Wilder
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>>530956409it isn't. Just an archaic spelling of Wilder that you don't recognize. The Iron Menial pronounces his name the same as Wilder.
currently 2/3 for all bosses, password erg
>boot up game
>get here
i may have left the game too quickly yesterday
>>530956510i really like dawn guardian
>>530956358>Dawn Revenant is an incarnation of MarikaThis changes everything
>>530956594>>530956682>page 5dsgtroon is becoming increasingly desperate
>>530956712I really like that one too. Husband material. Dawn Rev is 10/10, Dawn Guardian is 9.9/10.
>>530956358CUTE CUTE CUTE, I WANNA KISS HIM!!!
>>530956807i prefer friede skin
>>530955756He's carried by the fact that status are absurdly strong in Elden Ring, also he has Raider-tier offensive stats even without the ARC.
His skill and Passive are useless, the dog is awkward but very good.
>>530956602If I remember correctly, the Iron Menial doesn't have the wine-whine merger, but I think everyone could still understand him saying hwere instead of where without subtitles.
>>530956845If you aren't playing Into The Wilder from the Death Stranding 2 soundtrack while playing as Wylder you are fucking up.
>>530955756I basically only use his deflect stance when I get aggro from some enemy you're better off not attacking at all and letting your teammates hit it in the back.
Bell Bearing Hunter, mostly, maybe a Crucible Knight
I guess I also use the "going into stance" deflect occasionally for some big attack that would otherwise take way more stamina or effort to avoid, but then immediately go out of it (or use the "going out of stance" deflect if there's some follow-up)
but yeah, using roll-attack with your regular status inflicting katanas is usually better
>>530957016He pronounces it wilder. The mispronuncition would be something akin to 'will-der' instead of 'wild-er'.
The game correctly uses the right pronunciation.
I will NOT say it is some ESL failing, archaic terms are archaic for a reason - no one uses theme anymore.
>>530957160> "going into stance" deflect>going out of stance" deflect nta but what are these?
any footage?
>>530957305pulling out and putting away the cursed sword is a deflect
>>530957305Doing the unsheathe or the sheathe to put suncatcher away has parry frames built in. Spamming it quickly gives you 2 parry setups.
Footage isn't neccessary since it is how the game works.
>>530956358She looks much more feminine here
does the term wilderness come from wilder?
>>530957305clicking the skill button already works as a deflect
It can make executor god tier if you have good knowledge of enemy patters - just unsheathe on first attack from a combo, sheathe on the last one, and in between attack with your normal weapon
>>530955987>>530956090this dont use the racist passie erg is gennie culture
>>530949439incredibly based post
>>530957594wild, wilderness and weald are related.
>>530957594you can find out anything like that for any term by googling "[term] etymology"
>>530957594Wylder is called Tracker in the files; it's just a fancy way of saying Hunter that the lolcowlizers decided to put in.
>queue with erg
get the usual anons who are consistently good at the game 90% of the time
>queue with niggerg
get C and D tiers who keep dying or deal no damage
yeah why even bother with the new pw, i'll take the risk of playing with randos thank you
>>530950361what the fuck lmao
>>530957748that doesnt get me (You)s bud
>>530957748Fake news, I looked up the etymology for Naturalborn and there was no mention of Bastards
>>530957957I know, but if I posted a typical screengrab of google like I normally do for you esls you'd also cry.
Being stupid is the root issue.
>>530957997>brony gets upset againkino
>>530951551Honest to god, fighting Adel as bird is pure suffering. If your positioning is bad, its so frustrating get dead angled.
>>530955887You are such a loser.
>>530958724based bird carrying a revenant
>>530958724>not wearing the patriot Dawn skinNgmi
>>530957032DS2 sucks get better taste
>>530957253Dumbass
>>530957594No dumbass
>>530949439Kek
>>530959627Never played the game, only heard the great song.
>>530956358Looks meh. They could have done better
>>530955987Get a better fetish faggot
>>530958646How so? For expressing a positive opinion of something in ER instead of whining about a boss being "artificial difficulty" or whatever? Not everyone here is a cynical asshole like you.
Show me your relics for a caster Duchess
>>530961167You mean spamming a good aow with alot of fp ?
>>530961167if you're just looking for "the best", its
skill does increased damage
skill cdr +3 as many times as possible
evergaol AP
slicer damage as many times as possible
and then whatever your preference, unless you can fit heolstar relic+the above, in which case you run heolstar relic
does not matter what weapon you use whatsoever, caster or otherwise
>>530960783Trying too hard.
ggs rev and wyalder, sorry if i played a bit goofy at times
>>530962356looking fot actual, not optimal
>>530959674I guess that’s better but still
>>530928438>lore wiseKill yourself
>>530934491>would be a perfect gamepeople like you will never reproduce and that’s a good thing
>>530941015no refunds
>>530945353> that we now recognize as Phoenician raiders.They weren’t Phoenician retard, they were Greek
>>530946758Unironically true. Kill these lorefaggots.
>>530946689Meds you actual freak.
>>530947753>used it for my ancient evilChecks out
>>530948651Crying because he’s right
>>530948741Obsessed retard with no rebuttal
>>530948817Based
>>530948891Lovely headcanon. Try substantiating it any time now.
>>530949819a little less ChatGPT next time thank you
>>530950578>>530951078don’t samefag your schizo posts
>>530960783estrogen fueled meltdown
