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>>530961591 (OP)RELEASE HIM YOU COWARDS. ONLY HE CAN STAND UP TO THE MENACE THAT IS MALISS
>>530962061Soon to be in 4k with the new update
>>530961890>TCG can't handle Drident but is fine a monster that's like her but with Blue-Eyes stats, can hit face-downs and isn't OPT.
>>530828338Made me check. Asides from Sillva I didn't see any bans. Losing Sillva isn't a huge deal.
>9k gems
I don't want to build Maliss
>>530962629>TCGthere's a reason why we don't talk about toiletpaper in this general. toiletpaper format and banlist decisions are just fucking retarded
>>530962629TCG doesn't seem to unhit anything unless there's support coming out to shill
she'll be chilling with electrumite until Konami JP decides to give us support and forces the gaijin to free her
>>530963045It's not really a deck its just an engine that can be slopped into either the White Forest lore pile or the Illusion chimera stuff
but yes both of those are pretty good
>>530963045People typically don't play it pure, and instead just use it as an engine in White Forest or Snake Eyes(which is much of its intended purpose) but pure Azamina is actually a pretty competent deck, there's just very little information on it in English.
>>530962061i'm so fucking mad at myself for having used 10k on exodia when installing MD instead of them... missed alt art and special pack...
>>530963942Last year's anniversary bundle always comes back during the next year's anniversary bundle so you'll have another chance. That's also likely when they'll add the new Sky Striker cards.
>>530963565>>530963643I ran into some guy playing what seemed to be a mostly spell/trap deck with Reasoning and them and it seemed pretty cool
>>530963942good. latefags piss me off
>>530963045Azamina isn't a deck it's part of White Forest but can be used as an engine. Pure Azamina where you use it with sinful spoils cards and transaction rollback is actually good and resilient based on the few encounters I had with it.
>>530964104I'm waiting for the next anniversary just to grab the Dark Magician bundle
>>530964110Yeah, that's a build that comes from China I'm pretty sure. It uses a ton of the Azamina traps that nobody ever uses alongside shit like 3x Sinful Spoils Struggle, multiple Hallowed Azamina, etc. There was a video on Billibilli that functions as a guide on it with a bunch of high level replays showing off what it can do, but I don't know how to find that since I didn't save it.
>>530964475>I'm waiting for the next anniversary just to grab the Dark Magician bundleanon...
>>530964624NO logic in not having it back with the new support
>>530964475DM bundle was the 1st year anniversary, and it only came back on the 2nd year, not the 3rd year so don't get your hopes up. I'd expect Blue Eyes to also not come back for the 4th year since that was the 2nd year one.
>>530964741Yeah but it will be HIS time when the support comes?? (not really lol)
>>530963385Astrograph came back to 3 in MD, probably going be unhit soon.
Not mention that generics got banned, so less reason to do froot loops.
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>>530965142It'd be a good time to add one of his other alt arts.
Personally, I'd want the Power Pros alt art, the red Arkana one, the original manga one, or this one.
>>530965401OCG might copy the MD banlist (like they just unhit Knightmare Goblin iirc) but TCG won't
>>530965634TGC actually had chronograph at 3 while OGC limited. Honestly I don't see any reason for any pend card be limited or banned at this point.
>>530965601That would be a nice compromise. Good picks desu. This would look pretty cool coming out
>>530966105Chronograph was NEVER hit in the TCG though
The points isn't about game balance, it's that once something gets his in the TCG it almost never gets unhit unless they're selling new support (plushfire, dragon rulers, etc)
And Electrumite's case is completely unique, its not banned for any game balance reason it's banned because the guy in charge of TCG personally doesn't like the card. So these cards are likely never coming back until he retires at the earliest.
>>530964104I see, so early feb I should get another shot, got it. Not as dramatic as I thought but still far away.
Received the Branded structure deck since a friend recently relapsed into playing YGO. Is Branded as complicated as I've been hearing or is it worth investing in.
>>530966747it's very difficult to play and really expensive even after the free shit they give you
it is good in basically every format ever though and its one of konamis favorites so it gets a never ending supply of busted new cards every 20 minutes
>>530966747Branded is a deck that's very easy to pick up but difficult to master. People commonly call it Braindead because of how many people pick it up and do relatively well by doing only the most obvious lines. Some youtuber released a 10+ hour guide video that became a meme so people joke about it being stupidly complicated that you need that guide.
>>530966747Kinda, you can go for piss easy line that is doing something then search brandon fusion for usual mirrorjade line.
Optimal plays are quite tricky, but once is done it have ton of interactions or recover from virtually anything.
>facing ninja using dm loaner
>nice back and forth
>blocked from summoning dragoon multiple times
>actually performed ritual summon
>actually pulled dark magic attack off that clear his backrow but he still got ninja fusion on field and the sex ninja that can negate
>suddenly time limit win
NOOOOOOO
THAT WAS THE BEST DUEL I GOT ALL WEEK IT CAN'T END LIKE THAAAT
OMG YES I LOVE having EVERY card in hand negated. I especially LOVE when they discard Eva to add even more negates. Can't wait until they add a region lock to this fucking game holy shit. Tired of playing against asian tryhards jesus christ
>"it's just an event bro why so mad haha :^)"
People play events to avoid cancer strategies and play fun decks. Crazy concept I know
>>530967918This opponent hasn't touched MD since its release weak.
>>530967918how the fuck did you lose to this
>>530966421Honestly it's downright hilarious given that TGC have pends completely neutered due lack of generics.
Monkeyboard came and people predicted whole Armageddon again, nothing fucking happened, best placements were due melodious and that lasted like 15 minutes.
Can you negate flip monster's effect if they were flipped face up because of an attack, and are going to be destroyed?
Because I'm thinking pots might not be worth it if they can be negated.
>>530968032Did you fucking read my post? Every card that I activated got negated by that herald ritual. When it discards Eva, it adds even more fodder to negate with. Literal cancer
>>530969119>Can you negate flip monster's effect if they were flipped face up because of an attack, and are going to be destroyed?If your negate says to "negate the ACTIVATION" then you can use it during the damage step
otherwise you can't
Mimighoul looks really fun but is it gonna feel like CBT to play
>>530967918that's a blast from the past
>>530969119Jars aren't worth it because they aren't good until they add some synergistic cards that enable them beyond shit like Book of Taiyou and A/D Changer. Your opponent being able to use Baronne or Apo on them is the least of things to worry about.
Will there be any more missions for this festival later?
Or will they just roll on with the next one?
>>530969374Nah, it's fine to play. It needs one more good draw to not feel a bit bricky, and Mimighoul Maker's RNG aspect is annoying but that's about it. Occasionally the opponent will be able to out half your setup because of something like Droplet sending the monsters you gave them to the GY but that's usually not the end of the world.
>>530969374Mimighoul is unplayable in this format with everyone running 3 copies of Dominus Impulse mate
>>530967918Bro this hasn't been good since MD came out
maliss is just purrely again
>>530971149there are real outs to purrely
it's time... to ban a tenpai synchro. it's the only way to kill the deck.
it's time... to have sex with raye
>>530961591 (OP)>removed HIS site>pedo threadoh boy, a schizo OP
>>530972492Disregard, the dumbass copy pasted it wrong
They didn't even update the new pack
But they made sure to have the spoiler in the OP
I love Swordsoul I love Ecclesia alt art I love my wuxiaGODS
>>530972916Why is she smashing that poor guy's fruit stand?
>maliss doesn't give a shit about maxx c
>every other deck does
wow Im so glad I'm being kept in check!
>>530973414>>maliss doesn't give a shit about maxx c??
>>530973414Modern decks are build to play around handtraps. Next meta pretty much punish any sort of handtrapping.
you could paste a gay furry poem in the op and I wouldn't notice
I'm surprised people even look at it
>>530973576the traps let them do whatever the fuck they want on either turn
they still get 2 non-target banishes without committing anything
I'm so fucking burned out
How many more years of 30 minute turn 1 FTK combos do we need before they do ANYTHING to change it?
How long has it been since anything at all meaningfully changed in the meta besides changing the name of the top combo deck?
why does every modern yugioh card read like "if this card is summoned you can add an 'x' card to your hand, you can send an 'x' card to your gy and summon some other bullshit. If this card goes to gy you can add blah blah blah to your hand'
so boring, whats the point of archetypes when they all do the same thing
>>530973623>Next meta pretty much punish any sort of handtrappingSounds good. Board breakers are back
>lingtong had an imperm, veiler, nibiru (no way for me to play around it in the event without apo/baronne) and lotus, + another imperm for the vortex dragon I still made post nib
yeah that's gonna be a report for me, dawg
>>530974096Because decks need to get their cards to do the unique things their decks do.
>30 minutes into the game
>reports are already exhausted
>>530974063It's coming my man. The meta tards that loveeeee long ass combo's are going to bitch up a storm soon. The wave of fast, simple endboards is soon approaching.
>>530975671whatever happened to the new lore deck in OCG, artmegia or whatever? I feel like I barely hear about it compared to k9, vanquish soul, dragon tail, maliss and ryzeal etc
>>530976267It just got a second archetype announced. That's it.
>>530976267It still has not received its lore approved branded fusion equivalent so people don't care
>>530975671It's impossible to make everyone happy.
>release decks with short simple combos like CenturionOH MY GOD, I HAVE TO WAIT 30 MINUTES WHILE MY OPPONENT JACKS HIMSELF OFF TO END ON A FULL NEGATE BOARD
>release 1 card endboard decks like Millennium AnkhOH MY GOD, MY OPPONENT JUST GETS TO DO ALL OF THIS.... FOR FREE????
Some people just spend more time bitching about the game than they do playing it, and think that anything more than normal summon+set traps should not exist.
>>530976928>release 1 card endboard decks like Millennium Ankh>OH MY GOD, MY OPPONENT JUST GETS TO DO ALL OF THIS.... FOR FREE????literally nobody cares about what exodia itself does, people just dislike the floodgates they abuse
Every day I become more and more radicalized by Called By the Grave
This card somehow manages to trick people into thinking its not the single most broken card currently legal. And yes I'm saying its worse than Maxx C
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>>530961591 (OP)at least my dumb deck can compete against dragoon loaner
>>530979361>Aroma Rikkabased, how well has it been working out for you
>playing the event
>first enemy was on fiendslop and maliss
fucking back to ranked already you dumb fucking cunts
>>530967330>braindeadSome dude activated mirrorjade, sent an albaz fusion and negated the mirrorjade with another of their albaz fusions. The sent card activated for another combo and since the mirrorjade's ACTIVATION was negated it was ready to fuck me up on my turn. I don't know why it is called '''"braindead'''" but that entire combo appeared out of nowhere.
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I was thinking about making a Rikka deck too since the Sunavalon loaner on the Rikka gate was kinda fun to play if you didn't brick, so I tried looking up some recent lists on MDM and I gave up, those lists are too expensive, look like they brick a lot and also are some kind of slop soup that's too chaotic even for me.
>>530971713Ban both syncros, genroku and chundra, summoning and kaimen. That perhaps knocks it off a tier
>>530979149Ban it in all formats.
>>530980403That's something that people were doing when Rindbrumm first released then everyone dropped that combo because it's too vulnerable in some way, I forget. It's neat though.
>>530980476most Plant Link decks are just like that, they don't really exist on their own, kinda like Insect, I'm trying to make a deck work where I don't have to go into Sunavalon cause I feel like that's where a lot of the confusion comes from but I feel like it'll be worse off no matter what I do
>>530980476Plantlink is boring because it's a very long linear combo that ends on so many interruptions that you can just yes click through your opponents turn so the unique parts of it don't matter.
>do event
>going second stun decks everywhere
alright
>maliss fiendslop troon took literally 20 minutes to finish
>scooped when saint azamina hit the field
that's good you little cunt bitch. never come back
>>530979502it usually fares better with marjoram synchro for the targeting protection. But with rikka princess i can bait or even negate dragoon. And magnolia is destruction protection against dragoon going first and non targeting banish going second. So it has been good.
>>530980476Btw, this is what I look like.
Any other new players?
216b08b3
Campaign codes please.
>brick eyes getting gaped even going first
KWAB
>>530976928No one complains about Millnium being "free" they complain about the 3 fissure and 3 macro cosmos they run
>Braindead ruins another event
Holy fucking shit dude
>>530985935People absolutely do complain about boss monsters being summoned off of one card.
>>530986463But not Exodia Incarnate because he restricts you to just him and his Millenium beatsticks
>>530986651>people don't make unreasonable complaintsDo you really believe it?
>>530986775When he came out people here were saying he was bad because he required 5 garnets and 2-3 soft garnets. The deck only ever did well on ladder because it could cheese free wins with floodgates. All he does is act like a consistent solemn for anything threatening the floodgates. He was never an issue. The actual millennium monsters rightfully got a lot of complaints after the meta became fiendslop turbo
>>530987183>people don't make unreasonable complaintsDo you really believe it?
>>530987335If they're unreasonable you ignore and it's a moot point. Sounds like you're grasping for a gotcha
>>530961591 (OP)Has anyone made a mimighoul Jar deck?
Wanna get that deck out win con title but wanted to se suggestions
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>>530987835The entire root point was that it's impossible to please everyone because people will always complain even when it's not reasonable to do so. Pointing out that they're not being reasonable is a complete non-sequitur. You can't say that "No one complains about Millnium being "free"" just because it's unreasonable to do so when people absolutely have done that.
>>530963045Saint Azamina is a 10/10 pseudo tower Floodgate
>>530988289No you look at the reasonable complaint people are having an not the outliers. For instance the people complaining about games taking way too long and their interactions being meaningless and then you verify that by- I dunno - being the lowest it's ever been despite (or probably because) a highly talked about combo deck?
>>530988626Which complaints you think are reasonable is a whole different discussion than which ones people make.
>>530988626by looking at the player count being the lowet it's ever been*
Grasping at the outliers to win on semantics is very much a fallacy. "Wow this 110 degree summer is awful" "BUT SOME PEOPLE ENJOY IT SO YOU'RE WRONG"
>>530988851If 100% consensus is the requirement to do anything then nothing will ever be done and is a petty copout as a requirement to win an argument just so you think you can be in the right.
>>530989150You still are completely missing the point. Stop being so autistic.
>>530988316I look forward to strategies with Azamina too. Fuck 0/0 monsters
I'm convinced Sky Striker exists just to waste my time, I hate this deck
I sure to love sitting here, dealing with a single monster that wipes my board and doesn't actually do anything, with every negate they could need to prevent me from doing anything else but just watch
I'm sure someone's gonna come out and say "lol why are you losing to this, are you shit" and it's not about whether the deck's good or not, it's just got the most obnoxious grind game I've ever played against
luv Ninjas
hate bricking
simple as
playing a deck that doesn't need a normal summon and uses lava golem is fun
>>530989252But you're the one autistically focusing on hypothetical unreasonable people as a gotcha?
>>530989737>Infinite negate into OTK deck>wtf this game sucks>Grindy deck that doesn't OTK you>wtf this game sucks
>>530992040I would prefer if they OTK me, cause then I wouldn't waste 4 turns of
>set monster down>gets negated and snatched>end turn>blows up monster>end turn
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This card is a bigger cancer than any handtrap in the game.
Why the fuck would you give the going first player even more tool to help them when going first is inherently more powerful than going second?
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Could someone explain to me what happened?
Was it the Chimeratech?
>>530992897read megafleet
>>530992170Sky Sissies should be able to OTK you pretty consistently. Maybe it's a bad player or one who bricked really bad.
>>530992954Why is it not in the first line that states the 'ingredients'? Can all the ingredients be from the opponent's board?
>>530992956Not him striker has to hard draw Raye + Linkage into an open board to OTK
>>530993127>from either field
>>530993187You know what nevermind. I'm not blind and you are just being condescending.
>>530993282Anon this isn't some obscure interaction or ruling that requires explanation. The text of Megafleet literally explains everything you need to know.
It sends cards from the EMZs to summon itself
>>530993136It's more than that. Raye or one of her searchers + Engage.
>>530993282>Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards from either field to the GY.An older card "Chimeratech Fortress Dragon" also has this exact same text
"Alba-Lenatus the Abyss Dragon" also has the same text
>>530992170In no world chinks jerking off 20 mins per turn over empty boards are better than Sky Striker players
>>530993136It's not much of a problem with the bullshit hands the shuffler tends to give them + they have Engage to search any missing pieces whether they want to OTK or not
>>530993687Yes but usually you need to go into Kagari/Hayate early to break boards
If the striker player went first and summon a link 1 in the EMZ the OTK also need double linkage access without using Kagari
>>530992263I hate it too but if it had to go then maxx c has to go with it
>>530994274your terms are acceptable
>>530994274Okay but what's the catch?
>>530993537I think if you read my posts without assuming I'm a retard you would have gathered that I have an idea of what caused the interaction and why.
I was asking for clarification since this game doesn't format it's card texts much or use keywords or anything. Hence asking why the "formula" of the special summon isn't were it usually is.
Also field isn't defined on the card. And the opponent's side of the board isn't explicitly mentioned.
I'm asking for the why not just the how.
>>530994576no catch. better chance for your handtraps to resolve and I can play my graveyard dependent decks safely
>watch daily Duel Live
>Maliss loses to Battlewasp
So I'm a monkey can explain when I wanna end on crypter vs firewall ? Like it is a going first vs second thing or?
>>530995078The 1 card Dormouse line ends on Apo + either Terahertz or Crypter
You always go for Terahertz if you play it but if you don't play it then just go for Apo + Crypter
If you have 1 spare material like a random Bystial you can link off your Crypter into the OG Firewall, on your opponent turn you GWC/March Hare your White Binder to banish Ransom and Crypter and co-link them with your OG Firewall to make it live
>>530995651i haven't been doing any of that shit my guy, Time to go watch more combo videos
Is there an ok or maybe strong deck that has short but sweet combos? I saw a Maliss full combo and I don't want to just banish -> summon -> banish -> summon (repeat 5-6 times) for 10-15 minutes...
if its on the cheap side better.
>>530996032just save for Ryzeal it's the next tier 1 deck and its far less combo heavy than maliss
Might've been my most satisfying win ever.
Went 1st but Malice opp had like 3 fucking openings in hand and kept comboing no matter what. I was almost sure I lost until I took a look at his points and realized summoning Gargoyle with Stand Up tribute gives me a lethal. It was even better since it was my derank match
>>530996150Well I'm using the Dark Magician deck from the event and its pretty easy and intuitive, should I build that meanwhile for ranked?
>>530996032Ryzeal soon and Dragontail in 6 months or something.
Also Swordsoul if you're not a new player and already got it from the campaign code.
>>530996032there's literally only 1 viable deck right now. wait 3 months until it gets barely meaninful consistency hits and Ryzeal can sorta keep up with it
>>530996273Sorry anon but Dark Magician is kinda ass
>>530989760Played Ninja for months without getting bored, it's so flexible and slips out of everything (when you don't brick)
now I play Goblin Bikers, I will rape faggot Ryzeal players until they explode when those cards come out
>lose coinflip
>no handtraps
>opponent sets up some PUNK Crystron comboslop endboard with a million interrupts
>win anyway
I love this deck so fucking much
so at what point am I supposed to negate a Maliss player doing Maliss things with my handtraps?
>>530996708maliss can't be interrupted it can only be floodgated
resolve maxx c, fuwa or lancea or scoop
>>530996708stop the normal summon. if they can dodge it or keep extending, then they just wanted to win more than you
>>530996517well I came back in with the presumption that neither my childhood favorite dark magician nor my teenager favorite gravekeepers were going to be viable anymore so I don't feel bad.
>>530996708Imperm the normal summon and pray
If they have ANY extender then you need 3 low impact handtraps
Yes, their starter + extender beat 2 handtraps it's fucking stupid
>>530996708just accept your fate
>>530996708You have better chance of winning if you doxx your oponent, travel to their place and send them to shadow realm in the time they are doing their coooomboooo
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>>530994589>why the "formula" of the special summon isn't were it usually is.The fusion materials or "formula" is where it usually is. It is the first line:
>1 "Cyber Dragon" monster + 1+ monsters in the Extra Monster ZoneIt perhaps looks like effect text because it is a long line. But i can assure you, if the first line is not the formula for a fusion, it is the summoning procedure for it.
Why do I only draw charmies when going first?
>>530998378you need to spend more money on the game
>>530996708>modern deck>HandtrapsLmao. You going love when next set punish your handtrapping on top of doing usual shit.
>>530999157The next meta all have in-engine handtraps, which is a good thing.
>>530998093It's okay, this conversation has run it's course. I just needed confirmation since this game doesn't think formatting card text is important.
For a new player, information is not presented as expected.
>>530999436Honestly if a card with 2 lines of very simple text is filtering you then this probably isn't the game for you
a lot of lesser known cards in md are glitched but nobody even knows or cares
won a duel yesterday due to it, and lost one just now too
>>530999369Yummy doesn't...
>>530999640Yeah, Yummy is dogshit
>>530999750I can see why you'd think that if you're shit at this game.
>>530999595there are some bugged cards but they don't get fixed unless japanese players report it
>>530999551>Asking for clarification is being filteredYou gonna pretend that the way things are worded in this game is intuitive now? I don't think even you are this deluded are you?
I think even the most invest
>>531000124invested players of the game recognize this is a pain point.
>>530999436I'm a new-ish player too and I think the formatting is fine.
For Extra Deck monster it's always
>first line of text = material>second line of text = any special summoning method or restriction
>>531000124You asked for clarification, you were given it, and you still seem to be trying to start an argument about it for some reason
I still don't understand what exactly you think is unintuitive? The materials and the summoning condition are written on the card in plain english.
>>531000316It doesn't apply to all cards but I think for that card in particular it's a little awkward.
>first line of text = materialSo it doesn't specify where the materials have to come from so the assumption is cards you control on the field.
Sometimes you get cards like Timaeus that states that the materials of fusion monsters can come from other zones. So you play that card that allows you to use material from outside the usual zone and you pay the material cost.
But in the case of Chimeratech Megafleet, it's ability to use material from your opponent's field is don't "pre-stated" so to speak. Worse still, it is detailed within a 'condition' or restriction as you mentioned.
>Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck)A downside
>by sending from either field to the GYan upside.
Doesn't explicitly mention opponent's field, for a game that usually overly explains it came across as odd. It then follows with, 'to the GY'. THE graveyard? Whose GY? Their respective GYs?
Sure, you can discern the way the card works but it
>>531000629You didn't give jack shit. You told me the effects of the card which as you said is written on it and I told you I understood as much.
There is no argument. I told you the conversation has run it's course and I am commenting that the formatting is confusing if you aren't already familiar with the game. What are YOU arguing about? That the card text in this game is without issue?
This deck is too hard to play I have too much free will
>>531002043>. What are YOU arguing about? That the card text in this game is without issue?Yes?
Some obscure rulings or interactions might be complicated but this absolutely isn't one of them. Every single piece of information you need to know about the card is right there in front of you and you're bitching that you weren't told about the effect THAT IS WRITTEN ON THE CARD
mikanko and yubel are such corny and lame decks
idk how its not basically considered stun
>>531003282mikanko doesn't even play its field spell usually
>>531003081Cool, keep thinking that. Like I said, I wasn't interested in continuing the back and forth with you anymore. You were the one that insisted.
>>531002043ive read this like 3 times and I still dont understand what the problem is
>>531003584There is no problem, if you don't think there is one. Don't worry about it.
>watching a replay
>he does anaconda dragoon pass
>opponent's turn
>he imperms the anaconda
>uses dragoon's negate on the imperm
>opponent follows by super poly
I love gold
>can't get self ftk combo off going first so leave myself to die in one hit
>opponent does some moves and then surrenders after a long pause
I don't understand. I didn't even have any cards in my hand.
>>531002043I guess your main problem is your insistence on combining the description of materials and the summon procedure.
To which I just need to show you Super Polymerization.
All fusions are inherently capable of using monsters from either field as materials if you use the right summon procedure, and unless explicitly mentioned otherwise.
In Super Poly case, the summon procedure said you can use monsters on either field, so you can use monsters on either field.
In Chimeratech Fortress case, you're using its own summon procedure that is listed on the second line of text saying you can use monsters on either field, so you can use monsters on either field.
They can of course specify it and said "monsters from either side of the field", because you can only summon Chimeratech using its own summon procedure unlike Alba-Lenatus, but I imagine they want to keep it open enough so future cards that interact directly with the materials listed on fusion monster like Over Future Fusion still works.
Because monster in your deck is not monster on either side of the field after all.
>>531003282I like the idea but it does feel kinda ass to play against
if Mikanko wasn't so goddamned expensive I'd look into it more
im so sick of HERO faggots and their 30 minute turns
>>530993127>Why is it not in the first line that states the 'ingredients'?Because the first line that states the ingredients is JUST used for that, to list WHAT monsters are allowed. Even for fusion monsters that require monsters from certain zones, the *default* is always only monsters you control. That's why the subsequent lines tell you it is allowed to use from the opponent's board.
If you feel that's a failure of formatting on konami's part, you have to bring it up to them.
> Can all the ingredients be from the opponent's board?They can be if they have a one cyber dragon and one monster in the EM zone.
this event is ass, whats the point of it
>>530999941It's so fucking bad. Plus the theme is straight up retarded. Piss boy zoomer energy
Why does lacrima's burn had to be so fucking high? 1200 fucking points is a lot for a random burn at the end of the effect list.
I waited 20 minutes for my turn just to get a third copy of a card that can be activated once per turn. I fucking love the shuffler
>>531008859Thank you. An actual attempt at explanation.
I will also add that this was my first time encountering a 'contact fusion', so the lack of a fusion spell confused me. Also, apparently summoning this way doesn't count as a fusion summon but "just" a special summon. Despite the monster being labeled as a fusion monster.
>the subsequent lines tell you it is allowed to use from the opponent's board. Now that it is explained to me I guess it does. But on first reading, it can be taken to mean that it HAS TO be 'first summoned' via stated method rather than it CAN be first summoned via stated method.
And the tutorial taught that the 'must first' term is used to specify the way in which the first instance of summoning 'has to' occur, not that it also 'allows' it to be summoned via stated method.
For all I knew, there could be fusion spells that allows the targeting of the opponent's board to fufill Chimeratech's 'condition'.
>you have to bring it up to themI wasn't looking to bring it up to anyone.
It was just that 'just read the card bro' was deeply unhelpful.
>>531008490Read this after. Thanks for explaining and providing context.
But yes, after some googling I found the source of my confusion.
But I will say that while I conflated the two, I wasn't insisting on anything.
In fact, above, someone described that 'materials' line as >not the formula for a fusion, it is the summoning procedure for it.
I think it was a reasonable assumption I made given that this game does not format it's card text almost at all.
Again, I didn't really care to litigate over the card text of the game. Was just seeking clarification.
We need more card rarities, maybe a stat tracker like TF stranges.
>Never farmed event for titles
I want to keep being lazy but I also want to show off cool titles
>>531012512>We need more card raritiesshut the fuck up konami shareholder
>>530963942I had a great anniversary pull that I built Exodia and Fiendsmith by accident while rolling for Azamina
>>531011806I guess we can leave this to rest, just one thing:
>...this game does not format it's card text almost at all.That's not just a failure on md's part, the real cards have the same problem. Look at the card on the left of
>>530998093the effect text is just multiple continuous sentences. At least the text on the right has line breaks. The cards in japanese don't have that problem. Effects are numbered and line break'd
In conclusion if you want to know something about the card you have to read the ENTIRE card. I know it sucks but it is what it is.
>>530965601>>530966271This is the best DM variant, and I wish we could get it.
Bros, how long until Ryzeal comes out?
>>530973414Are you retarded?
what happened to shaddoll? what happened to branded? why is every single match against a dark magician that's doing a dragoon pass? i'm fucking dying of boredom
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most fun match I had in some time, bro was one card away from exodia
sex with Sky Striker Aces
>>531015923verte dragoon is in one of the loaners. you better rev up those droplets and santa claws
>>530973706In order to set up White Binder they need to summon at least 5 times and it's extremely sub optimal.
In order to set one trap they need to special summon at least once abd all they get is one banish.
What the fuck are you bitching about here exactly? That you didn't draw 20 cards because the Maliss player didn't go full combo on you under Maxx C? That you have to play through one extremely predictable Backrow interaction? Just quit the game if you don't like people doing anything on your turn. Game's like Pokemon limit the turn only to the player playing it, maybe that's more your style.
>>531015582I don't like the white background it hurts my eyes. 10/10 look though
>>530975032You know they don't check those at all, right? My user name has been HITLER with two swastikas at each side since the game launched and I'm sure I've been reported a million times, and nothing's come of it.
>>530995060Your fault for believing idiots calling it a Tier 0 deck. Maliss is shit going second as well.
>>530996708You can stop it with Imperm and Ghost Belle if you know how the deck works. Most people are retarded and imperm Red Ransom though.
>>531016273It's nicer on paper. I have it in Japanese, it's a very nice card.
>>531016816It's tier 0 unless floodgated. Everything is shit going second except for They/Thempai and Atlanteans.
>connect to duel
>I get to call the coin flip
>pick going first
>five seconds pass(options are greyed out meaning for the duration,meaning I chose what I wanted
>you are going second!
Nice fucking hack, you utter faggot.
>>531017703>It's tier 0 because I said so!!Hmmm....
>>531020345It's tier 0 because of usage. That's how tiers work
>Fusion x Link Festival
>Rituals are all legal
huh, don't remember if they were also legal in previous events like this
>>531021834rituals don't go into the extra deck
>>531020594Nope. That's wrong actually.
>>531022678Tiers are organized by usage. It's currently the most played in both tournaments and ladder
I realized both of the decks I built are actually underwhelming and only cheese out a win via floodgates (HERO and Swordsoul Tenyi)
>>5310227761) you got any sources for Maliss being a Tier 0 deck, that isn't just your asshole. Because currently it's not defined as Tier 0 in any well known Tier list. And it's never been tier 0 in any paper format either.
2) You're wrong. Tier 0 isn't "usage" you fucking moron. For a deck to be Tier 0, it needs to CONSISTENTLY see over 66% representation in the TOP CUT of tournaments.
Maliss is currently not seeing that. It's not even reaching 40% in weekly tournaments.
Tiers aren't a popularity contests. Tier 0 doesn't mean a deck is extremely popular, the power if the deck matters a lot which is why tournament placement is what's looked at. Pic is random tournament results I pulled from MDM. If you've got any source showing Maliss meets the criteria for Tier 0, I'm happy to look at it.
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>>531023259cheesing is the name of the game anon
>>531023619>Tier's isn't usage you moron>It's representation (usage)
>>531023619>Tier 0 isnt usage, it's usageYou do realize this is basically what you said right?
>>531023923>Statistics from shitters down in Bronze counts toward muh tier listUh huh.....
Show me proof of Maliss being Tier 0. Go ahead. If you can't, then you're gonna have to stop dilating all over the thread because all little girls trigger your PTSD. Words have meanings, and they don't care about your feelings.
>>531024370tobefair usage in the top cut is a bit more specific. For ladder usage in master rating would be more representative. Untapped hasn't updated their list yet but most of my matches have been against Maliss. The only reason they're being held back is that the turn 2 player has up to a ~34% of drawing the turn skip
>>531024516Xister, you're the one getting into a tizzy because someone said your crutch waifu deck would be tier 0 without lancea
>>531024370No, I know what I said, but I know reading is hard for samefagging retards like you that don't know what Tier 0 means.
>consistent 66% of top cutNow show me evidence of that. Not hearsay from what some faggots on YouTube said to clickbait idiots like you.
>>531024673Still waiting on that evidence. Where is it?
>>531024901Go play master 1 ranked and then count how many players are using malpiss
>>531024981So you DON'T have it. It's all imagined.... GOT IT!
>>531024981>It's Tier 0 because I said so!!
>>531025089imagined just like your gender. The original post said tier 0 without being floodgated which pretty much true which doesn't even imply that it's currently so you are schizoing over nothing
So, it turns out Maliss decks are super weak? I haven't won once with one.
>Maliss
>Maliss
>Stun
>Maliss
yeah, I'm done for the week
>>531025484Sure nigger. All this hype was about nothing.
>>531025328Tiers are organized by usage yeah
>>531025381>In my hypothetical imaginary scenario it would be tier 0! Because I said so!!Yeah ok.
In my hypothetical imagined scenario without Lancea it's not tier 0. What are you gonna do about it?
>>531025627How did you manage to lose to Maliss?
maliss is only good because it can draw into maxx c and can abuse impulse
>>531025661You got any proof of it being Tier 0? Show me the tier list.
>>531025668Nothing because because there's a 42% chance you'll never be posting again. It would be tier 0 without lancea just like how you would be a man even with bottom surgery
>>531025650Correct. Stop getting your opinions from idiots on YouTube.
>>531025801and apollousa
>>531025627just don't play ranked. I have seen enough maliss enough for a lifetime.
>>531025807If you want proof play master ranked 1 and above
>>531025820>It's tier 0 because I said so!!Your attempts to gaslight people mean nothing you seething troon. Imagine malding over little girls in a children's card game. Surely there must be better things could be doing with your time instead of getting angry at pictures.
>>531026082You are literally the getting they/their panties bunched up in your axe wound because you misread a post and doubled down on they/their schizo rant?
>>531025952Can you show me the proof?
>>531026249You can find the proof yourself if you're not a shitter stuck in platinum
Maliss isn't Tier 0. It's a soulless Tier 1 deck.
Nothing compares to HIS site showing Ishizu Tear at 60% powerlevel; while Tear fags were downplaying it.
>>531026368Anecdotal evidence isn't proof. Can you at least show us your rank. Go ahead.
>>531026471>60That's still not tier 0. Also the original image had it at Tier 1, but the troons malded so badly someone made an edit to suit their delusions.
>>531026605>60% of the meta game isn't Tier 0nice b8 m8
>>531026684You might wanna look up the definition for Tier 0 again. It's 66%, two thirds, not 60%.
>>531026757>Tier 0 is 66.6790%, not 60% according to my arsewe'll never see that Tier 0 deck again Tear fag
>>531027017>Numbers don't matterFacts don't care about your feelings, you malding troon. Get over your PTSD over a card game already. This is pathetic.
is there a going second deck people will just scoop on the normal summon
>>531026471Oh shit my birds used to be meta
>>531027101>mate, it's Tier 0>"AIEEEEE, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT! TROON!!!"lil bro really fell in love with a shitty mill deck lmao
>>531027185Use the loaner with dragoon in it.
Mating Pressing Purrely...
>>531027303Yeah, so much so you needed to edit an image that originally showed it as Tier 1, lmao.
>>531027513>you edited that image that's been posted for months blud's really trying to aurafarm by gaslighting
just put the fries in the bag and keep it moving
>>531027185I got it by just playing Alice
>>530989737>get to do the most optimal combo without a single interruption>still loseIf I let you build your most optimal endboard and wipe your ass, its honestly just skill issue at this point.
>HIS optimized maliss decklist has 3 superpolys
fuck I still don't have it
>spent all my gems building Maliss
>10k total
>Already back at 4k
Lmao. Feel sorry for all the dudes who couldn't build the deck cause it was "too expensive." I don't even care about Ryzeal either, I don't plan on building that.
>>531029369dailes + event ? I'm at 3k, what did you do more ? Ranked ?
>>531028521Makes sense for Bo1. Maliss struggles going second. Super Poly is always a decent board breaker, and you have the extra deck space. Terrahertz is a meme. Crypter line is much better imo. Plus, because of Crossout, you're likely also running your own Lanceas as well, which helps for the mirror.
What's with the odd pricing? Is there some hidden meaning behind these numbers?
>>531029369I'm already back at 9K, and that's without collecting any of the duel pass rewards. I'm half tempted to open some more Malice packs to try and get some royals.
>can't sit for more than 10 seconds without randomly clicking the field
I unironically fried my brain with TikTok, texting my gf and browsing this place all at the same time
>>531029604the usual mtx bs so you can't ever buy whole number
>>531029596needs an update with lancea
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what's even the point of this shit
>>531029596this retarded image falls apart when you realize all those cards are hand traps and are in the GY. Nothing of them are on the field to get nib'd.
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>>531030178the one that got nibbed are those gals
is one mula and two suruya enough to build tenyi
>>531030178They're cheering each other on a job well done in the GY while the rest of their team is on the field
>>531030172monarch support
I'm playing MD on steam, how do I link my steam account to the phone client?
>>531031259maybe if the gy effect actually allow any attribute
otherwise if you just want to put 2 tribute on the field i surmise there's like, better way to do it
>>531029512>Maliss strugglesJust stop
kinda dumb question, but do I still get to add mine to hand if I guess mine correctly but not my opponent's
>try a random deck in the sims Destiny Board
>think "wow this deck's really fun and goofy, I kinda like it"
>look up all the rarities
>costs 6-9 URs at minimum, not counting craft only cards
happens every time, I'd experiment more if it didn't cost me an arm and a leg
>>531023619>it needs to CONSISTENTLY see over 66% representation in the TOP CUT of tournaments... That's usage
>>531032690>costs 6-9 URs at minimumthat's like, most deck
prolly only the likes of true draco and megalith can get away with no UR
>>531020594>>531022776Holy fucking retarded. Tiers are based on powerlevel, with tier 0 being nigh unachievable because there can only be one singular tier 0 deck across all time until it's surpassed (which is literally Ishizu/tear). Until a deck can beat a fully unlimited ishizu/tear deck consistently, nothing else will ever be tier 0 again. The most anything can be is tier 1 otherwise.
>>531032815I don't need no UR but when all the URs in archetype are 3 of's it puts me off from actually investing into the deck
I know it can be so much worse, I've seen Mikanko decks and that shit's obscene
>>531032690this is why you experiment in edopro
To put this into perspective for every retard ass schizo in this thread, Tear was still winning through a format with shifter to 3, whereas Malice loses on the spot to lancea. There's a clear and obvious difference in power between Unlimited Tear and Unlimited Malice.
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this is some memetastic list holy shit
>spell card monster reborn
>skipper
>tb-11
>dharc
Why they are taking forever to announce new MR?
>>531034843Konami doesn't want to shill for a new anime and they can't make something power creeps Links without making the game genuinely unplayable.
>>531034965They moved anime to rush.
>>531033000Powerful decks get used and appear in tops and the usage is how you classify tiers
>>531035234Yes. They would rather just restart Yu-Gi-Oh from scratch than knowingly ruin what they have now.
>>531032340It's worse. Taketomborg is either a soft garnet or a brick. You need to run 4 cards for the package to be worth it while you can just slot in one or two of those quickplays
okay super poly is fucking stupid
I still won the match because the fuck you gonna do with a mud dragon and I could just bring my monsters back from grave anyway but holy fuck cards should not say you can't do anything in response
>>531034965Why does it have to be power creep and just not a general rule change that lower the power level of the game.
>>531035738>holy fuck cards should not say you can't do anything in responseWhy not?
>Decide to blow the dust off my Gravekeepers deck
>First duel is against someone playing Shiranui
And I thought my luck was shitty.
>>531033336>downplaying/history revision by a typical Tear fag
>>531035906Its an interactive game
>>531033336The only decks that can really exploit shifter on that list are stun, floowandereeze and exosissies. Exosissies were weak back then and still were after their support. Shifter's effects take two turns so a deck like Branded would be potentially skipping its own turn if it ran the card. Unlimited Tear is still the strongest deck so it's not a great comparison. A better one would be Spyrals since unlike tear that deck didn't necessarily turn the game on its head. Malpiss is just postmodern nu-gi-oh design introduced with Tear and Snake Eyes without the deck it was supposed to be competing with present in game and with other decks being neutered. It'd probably be tier 0 if Lancea wasn't so easy to slot into most decks.
>>531036959How is he a Tearfag when he's saying Tear was fucking broken with it's biggest counter card being at 3 didn't change the fact it was still the strongest deck in the game by a wide margin?
>>531035665i mean, there's prolly dozen other way to put two monster on field
>>531036959how is it revision when in no ban list tournies tear is meta defining along with the ftks
>>531037380Monarchs don't run the Extra Deck since having any turns off their floodgates. A single card that offers two bodies and an additional normal summon for water (which monarchs can easily search) is very efficient. Monarchs, however, are kind of ass. True Draco might like it.
>no mention of Tear 0 btw
I'm noticing
>>531037852the extra bodies might be kinda nice yeah, Dinomight fits the Water search and he's always a 3 of in the deck, I might have to test this to see if it's worth bothering with, would the tokens count as Monsters or Spells? if it's Spells, Master Peace might get some value out of that
>>531038138Token are monsters.
Ok, this deck is pretty neat. I was able to fuck a pend player by using subversion to clog his pend zone. Fuck pendulums.
>>531038261unfortunate, still good for the rest of the monsters though
>>531038261>Tokens are monsters.except when they aren't monsters
>can't become XYZ materials >have to stay when Evenly'd since they can't be banished face down
>>531039304They are, they can't be used as materials be be banished face down because they can only ever exist face up on the field
Do they ever rerelease old alts
I play danger dork world for fun sometimes and I'd like that yeti variant of Bigfoot
>>531039304Xyz material is fucking weird man
>attaching Eternal Soul as Xyz material doesn't trigger the destruction because it never leaves the field>but being detached as Xyz material also doesn't count as leaving the field so Eternal Soul still doesn't trigger>doesn't count as monster so detached material won't get banished under Fissure>but still counts as monster for Drytron
>>531031776I only play on PC but I think you have to use the konami code or create an konami accountor something.
>>531033495it's just one of tasuku's lists
>>531033495>spell card monster rebornGood vs called by and can be used as a pseudo called by. In a meta where games are decided by it's actually clutch. You'll most often use it as an extender for link climbing or denying resources.
>dharcGood in the mirror match
>>531036985Exactly. Negating interaction is stupid. The fact the Super Poly can't be negated means there are more options to design cards around that fact. It also forces players to put up layers of interaction with the Backrow and graveyard, rather than set up a board of unbeatable boss monsters with tons of negates. It's totally fair. If you're getting blown out by Super Poly that's on you. You should have stuff in Backrow and GY as well where it's not an automatic loss if two of your monsters get removed.
The people who want Super Poly gone or changed, are the people who don't actually want interaction.
>>531036959Mindbroken retard.
>>531046569being negatable in the standard way allows for much more interaction and deck customisability than needing fail safes in place for such a specific scenario that can't be negatable normally, what are you on about?
>Face ashened
>They die to ash
>>531046817>Saying "no" to your opponent is interaction according to this retardConversation over. I'm not going to bother.
While I understand not wanting to use the Turn A as it's genuinely annoying to type, is there any reason why Localizers went for "Maliss" over literally every other option available to them like:
>M4L1C3
>Mal-ic3
>M4lice
>MAL1CE
etc...
Like, the archetype is meant to be Malware + Alice in Wonderland and both of those references are completely lost in the localized name, unless I'm missing something here. Who was in charge off this decision, and why did they do it like this?
>>531047587>everyone should have the same shit in all their decks or they just shouldn't be able to do anything at allFiendslop player right?
>>531046569>rather than set up a board of unbeatable boss monsters with tons of negatesSuper Poly doesn't stop this from happening at all lol
>>531047768tcg localizers are ass at their job. more news at 8
>>531046569Super poly is completely uninteractive and a shitty silver bullet card. It is far more than just anti-negate, it is anti-all interaction with upside.
Like droll, the only times it seems healthy is when the meta is unspeakable aids.
>>531046569>The people who want uninteractive cards gone hate interaction??????????????????????????????????????????????
>>530973414>Any deck thatโs not a trap deck not giving a shit about Maxx C>and even then, getting Maxx Cโd sucks major dicks on those as wellAverage Joshua Nigger Schmidt viewer.
All of the faggots fear mongering Malice are the reason why itโs gonna actually become โT0โ because theyโre literally forcing people into playing it or using 3 Lancea.
Many decks that can deal with Malice but faggots like you, Josh and Farfa just cannot understand it. Havenโt lost any Malice game on Branded. Tearlaments even fucking beats Malice if you know what youโre doing and thatโs a GUTTED Tearlaments.
Fuck all of you ruining the game with your dogshit fear mongering. Ryzeal will warp the meta more than Malice ever will because itโs the better deck. Malice only won shit after Ryzeal got nuked and they got @ignister support.
>>531049113It's extra funny cause Joshua is a massive dicksucker for Ryzeal, and that deck is going to tear the format apart. Especially once it gets Mitsurugi.
>>531049113>theyโre literally forcing people into playing it or using 3 LanceaYeah its the community doing this somehow through magic powers and not Konami releasing another busted fullpower deck with no prehits
>>531049510Do you remember to breath without a YouTuber telling you to?
>unironic maliss downplayers
>>531049414Ryzeal ain't shit.
>>531049510I havenโt used a single list with Lancea to beat Malice. Iโm not pretending you never lose against it, because even a shit deck like Swordsoul can push your shit in if they high roll and you donโt interrupt.
But branded doesnโt need Lancea to trash on malice for example.
>>531049414Yeah Ryzeal Mitsurugi is gonna be massive PAIN. However I still want Mitsurugi to come soon because itโs actually fun to play โpureโ.
>>531049746/thread
All the Malice hate is because they hate Cyberse slop. Which again, I can completely respect and understand. But Ryzeal is what ruined the format lmao. Malice has been hyper fraudulent and couldnโt win shit.
>>531049746Show me one thing that makes ryzeal overpowered.
>>531049875Watch the deck profile videos yourself, retard.
Ban every single Link-1 monster
>>531049970So, you've got nothing. Pathetic.
and why in the fuck is fiendsmith event legal
>>531050225sad concession
Chimera is fucking bullshit and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>plays into fuwa
>scoops on my turn
ok then
>>531050602Itโs unplayable going second so thereโs that I guess.
>>531050871According to someone that compiled last DC data, apparently Chimera is basically reverse Tenpai kek
A whopping ~80% chance of winning going first but only around ~30% chance of winning going second.
Whereas other actually competent deck got 55-60% chance of winning both going first and second
>>530996657mermails ability to break boards always surprises me
Easy climb
What are we playing for Under5? I was thinking Evil Eye but they banned all Links
I've got Goblins but its also kinda scuffed without the level 6s
>>531052535Congrats on your climb. Canโt be assed to play into Masters, I prefer the funny decks I encounter on lower ranks.
For the under 5 Iโm gonna be stuck with the loaners because they banned rollback for Paleozoic. And no, it wasnโt just to Burst cheese, the deck just doesnโt feel good without rollback anymore.
>duel some dude with a korean name
>he plays prohibition
>spends like a full minute doing nothing
>calls avramax
>when i'm playing mekk-knights
death to all asians
>>531052713>I prefer the funny decks I encounter on lower ranksIt's not too bad honestly. It was about 50% the usual meta stuff and 50% random shit
Why the fuck fags who play hero decks always take all their fucking time to play?
Their combos are not even that hard to remember FFS.
>>531031776look for the data transfer in the settings
>>531053721Okay, colour me surprised then. Pleasantly so. I didnโt expect such a deck variety. My other friend has been sandbagging gold for so long when she used to be in Masters. Maybe I should tell her it stopped being cancer up there.
>>531052535>>531053721does this deck really dumpster Maliss that hard??
>>531055263It feels like it dumpsters everything right now. I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen anyone else playing it
>>531055263Everyone is maining Lancea which doesn't really do anything against the deck
Maliss will dominate the moment everyone stops overpreparing for it
i think nibiru should be banned.
is maliss even fun to play with all the lancea/roach/fuwa minigames?
>>531056986Nibiru is dogshit in current format anyway
>finally got the Ryu-Ge cards, never actually looked into it that much but it had Dinos in it so I'm obligated to build the deck
>just realized it wants 3 Melody of Awakening Dragons
Might as well build Blue-Eyes while I'm at it I guess
That deck will never stop getting support anyway
>>531056340It does turn of Minstrel and that stops you cheating Barrier Statue out the deck
But yeah compared to other decks it isn't hit THAT hard
>>531059772that's like, free from the structure deck, no?
meanwhile blue-eyes needs like, another 12 URs from the secret pack
>don't want to build Maliss
>can't build meta decks because missed out on limited secret packs
Being a returner sucks
>>531060172hold for deadnamer hopefully should be a month or two
>>531060093Yeah as far as I know not many of the UR from the SD are actually used in modern BE
I already have 2 each of the Primite UR at least
>>531060172fiendsmith is still meta?
>>531060621no
for all the bitching about it it disappears from the meta immediately upon snake eyes leaving
almost as if it was never a problem
>>531059772>>531060528Actually I just noticed modern BE themselves don't even use Melody anymore, fuck!
>>531051167I think that depends on the build/endboard.
I would say the FS build or Super poly build has better going 2nd chances, but a lot of chimera's chances to play is more or less driven by the fact if they have a fusion spell resolve or not.
But where their turn 1 is just stupid is mostly with diabelleze which is a pseudo quick play flood gate or they just destroy the first spell you set (outside of the handrip they do off of king of the phantom beasts)
But the deck can put up different floodgates based on the meta, wangu, the dark barrier statue, end of anubis, protector of the sanctuary
Kashtira is more bullshit than Maliss, the latter just feels more annoying because of the 10-hour long combos
>>531061874NTA, but Ryu-Ge in Dinos is very strong, just a lot more consistency. While its maybe not as strong as the scrap endboard, but it's less bricky overall, give more layers interactions with more backrow. The biggest appeal is having an omni negate live before oviraptor hits the board.
That's not even getting into the fact that Ryu-Ge can be used in other decks and builds, so you can get more mileage with the investment. Pure is kinda ass without 3 extrav or prosp, but it is functional.
>>531062718I find Kash to be trivial due to the lack of real protection and playing into Nibiru a lot to get to the Shangri + Arise combo.
I understand why people hate it, but itโs not negate city at the very least.
>>531052535Umi stun, hope you guys don't bring shark.
>need to do missions
>opponents surrender as soon as I go first
LET ME PLAY
>>531065339I still wish we would be able to get our dailies from casuals and rooms. The result is the same, we have to play the game no matter what.
>malpiss player combos for 10 minutes
>ends on terahertz AND apo
so basically, if you don't open Lancea against this deck, just scoop.
>>531065475Best way for me personally to get dailies is Live Twin. If I go first/don't get interrupted I'm guaranteed the special and link summon daily then no matter what all I need to do is the solo daily.
>>531065595>if you don't open Lancea against this deck, just scoop.Even if you do open Lancea remember they have exactly equal chance of drawing Called By/Crossout as you do of drawing Lancea so it doesn't even matter :)
>>531065595Yes. Other handtraps do nothing. Board breakers do nothing because their board isn't even on the field by the end. They will have drawn into maxx c or droll so you will get turn skipped. Enjoy.
>>531065665Yeah Iโve been using Paleozoic and usually one game is enough for 6 dailies. Granted games can be longer than you on Live Twin.
Sometimes people instant scoop if I managed to mill a rollback and burst with paleo names. Us scooping not counting also sucks, especially when the time has been used.
>>531065983>Us scooping not counting also sucks, especially when the time has been used.If your clock hits 0 it still counts. If I get what I need for dailies and the opponent is winning anyway and they stop me from obviously speeding up my suicide or try to combo on me for no reason when they have game I'm timer stalling them for 5 minutes before it's over.
>Feature Match
>Player with 60 cards gets double charmies 2 times in a row
Is Jeanpaul secretly Chinese?
>>531066780>white forest goes full gas through double charmies aka FULLL MAXX C and still winsunban the roach right now
roach did nothing wrong, it's fair
the japs were right all along and retarded faggot TCG "influencers" incessantly whining were wrong (obviously)
>>531035330That's exclusive to MTG. Usage rate < Winning percentage.
>>531068562>>white forest goes full gasthat wasn't full gas they synchro'd exactly once. droll did most of the work
Did the guy who made the bad art mod ever do another round of entries? These were great, I wish people would make more of them.
>>531070561countered and done.
>>531027185I'm using blind second IDS so I ended up completing this without even noticing they made it a mission until I checked later
which is more autistic?
>yugioh players arguing over the definition of tier 0
>yugioh players arguing over the definition of midrange
>Win coin toss against Chinese opp
>Summon Cook with one Exodia
>pass
>Opp also summons cook
>Expect luck vs luck pass game
>Opp is just playing timelords stall burn
Lame.
>>531071279Midrange is exclusively an MTG term.
Tier 0 isn't debatable, just faggots and their e-celebs think it is.
>>531071864one Exodia piece in hand*
>>531071129That's a big hat
Newfag here, can someone explain why my opp just surrendered immediately after normal summoning Gimmick Puppet Little Soldiers?
games where both you and your opponent get shit opening hands end up being the best ones
>>531072738because you normal summoned Gimmick Puppet Little Soldiers
>>531055263handrip and statue dumpsters everything, not just malice
>>531071864and luck vs luck pass game is what wouldn't have been lame? you both need a beating.
>>531072964No, my opp normal summoned.
>>531072738>puppet FTKWE OUT!
>>531073878oh
then I have no idea
either he misclicked something or didnt have combo?
>>531074016I don't think I will be watching HIS tournament this week. I couldn't stand another top 16 of entirely Maliss vs Maliss
>>531072738What did he send to the GY? Maybe he missclicked and surrendered out of shame
>>531073574It's the thrill of the draw.
>>531074176blame Konami for milking autists
>>531074301He didn't send anything. He just surrendered immediately.
>>531074708Probably accidentally didn't activate.
I had Yubel ash my Purulia, activate Throne and then surrender.
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>>531072738You probably had a handtrap which he thought was imperm that would've shut down his FTK
>maliss player is a troon
>>531071279Like the other anon said, midrange isn't a concept in Yu-Gi-Oh, and it's stupid to try to apply that to the game.
Yu-Gi-Oh deck types look more like:
>Going First Combo>Going First Backrow/Control>Going SecondThe points of interaction and styles of play in Yu-Gi-Oh differ so vastly from MtG or other Tempo-based TCGs that it's pointless to use their terms.
You're better off identifying decks by their preferred point of interaction be It hand-traps, Backrow, Graveyard, etc... or more importantly whether the deck likes going first or second.
>>531076736In my experience, it's Maliss haters who are troons.
>>531077386sorry anon but I'm commenting on the livestream. there is an actual troon playing maliss.
>>531077501I just saw that feature match. Are you sure that's a tranny? Looked like a biological female to me lol
>>531079237dios mio... la creatura...
>>531079237Biological female.
>>531079237The big hands and kinda broad shoulders leads me to believe that this is an actual tranny. Why does it matter to you anyway though? Tranny or not, if someone is good at yugioh, then they are good at yugioh
>Pak got BTFO
Spreadsheets confirmed total dogshit
>>531080179>If you don't make it in top cut, you're behind
>>531080491Jesse even did better than him and he's not even taking this seriously since he has a title to defend
>yubel vs mikanko
i cannot think of a more boring matchup
>>531080963Most mirror matchups are scuffed
>>531080113Btw, me on the left
>>531049746>Toilet Paper chartyou lost blud?
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Devilish
>three matches in a row I draw the true light and the field spell in the opening hand
is this a fucking joke?
>>531084979THIS MF PLAYING DUEL LINKS!!
>Set my music to opp's field music
>Exodia opp with Madolche field
why do you guys have trannies saved on oyur pcs?
what is the next labrynth buff card (aka powerful and noteworthy normal trap) in the pipeline now that Dominus came out?
if it's not maliss it's tenpai. like there is no other decks in the entire game. what the fuck is this format and how is tenpai played as if it was never hit
>>531086994I wish I could separately choose which decks I want my opp's music to play on.
I don't care if they release something 10 times worse like Maliss. Fiendslop will always reign supreme as the worst thing ever created.
I don't understand how people are climbing in this format. Every game is just so fucking sacky jesus christ
Hate Tear and Maliss, but love Fiendsmith, what that makes me?
>>531086414It combos well with going first tenpai
>>531089302But are you even trying to climb? Iโve been sandbagging plat because I canโt be assed anymore. I just get gems for cards I want and thatโs it. Ladder is boring to me, I just wanna play with friends.
>log in
>normal aluber get brafu
>brafu make albion into lubellion discard high spirits into mirrorjade
>lubellion eff tribute albion place lost
>end phase set banishment add high spirits to hand
>opponents draw phase banishment eff summon albion make ladd
>win
>collect gems
>log out
>>531089302I climbed up to plat 3 rn with sylvans(I only play 1-2 games a day). I think it's literally a matter of just playing the game
>>531089498>>531089780What if I don't actually like playing Yugioh?
>Can't even do my dailies because people keep scooping the moment I play a maliss card
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lool, some destruction protection really goes a long way in stopping the dumb dragoon
>>531089302What are you playing?
>>531091808Go for master. It's a lot more gems.
>>531091837Dragoon is such a fraud shit card.
So... why is Parallel exceed at 2?
He's unlimited in all other formats.
>>531092716mathmech was really good for like 2 weeks over a year ago so they limited diameter and semi'd parallel
they've just unhit diameter so I'd expect parallel back soon
I have noticed that Blue Eyes players just refuse to surrender and are always inclined to waste time. Why are you activating Nibiru and going TY-PHON when I'm just gonna have like 6 effects to add everything back in the end phase? He has nothing in hand but a vanilla blue eyes and he still wants to play. Sure bro go Tyrant but clearing my board means nothing because it will be rebuilt just the next turn. Could you just fucking fuck off?
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>>530961591 (OP)>gazillion gems into the pack>no march harehow important is march hare for malice? i already wasted too many gems, i don't want to waste more and was thinking of running the malice deck without it
>>531092716>>531093135It was semi'd to stop it from being a small world bridge AND being an extender at the same time. If it is at two you use it as a bridge OR as an extender, but can't do both
>>531093868you need her. just do the pass and get the crafting points (CP)
>>531093868you can replace her with bystials, that's what people were playing before March Hare came out and they serve the same purpose
but obviously March Hare is better because she's searchable in-engine
>>531093832>I have noticed that Blue Eyes players just refuse to surrender and are always inclined to waste time.They waste time even if they have lethal on board. They all think they're in the anime.
>>531095009If you can't climb with Maliss you might be braindead
>>531064412what do you even use for the ED since all links are banned? the only good xyz I have for it are stealth kragen and abyss dweller
>>531095091Well he could be since Malice, unlike Troonzeal, is hard to play properly.
People think weโre in a tier 0 format but most people canโt play Malice properly. Next meta will be much MUCH worse since even a donkey can win with Ryzeal
So I finished crafting my Maliss deck but now that I'm playing it I found out that I hate playing the same deck as everyone or a deck that is too powerful...
Should I create a new account and make a more off-meta deck or should I stick with this account and spend 1 month grinding gems to craft a new deck, not sure.
it's hard to overstate how fucking annoying vanquish soul's playstyle is. the absolute worst of all time.
>>531095091>If you can't climb with Maliss you might be braindeadBro every single faggot on ladder is running lancea and chaos hunter. How the fuck am I supposed to climb when mouthbreathers just tech against my deck and I can't play the game?
Should I? I bought the bundle and another pack to see how lucky I got. I got 7k gems left.
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>>531096519NO! STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY PETDECKERINO!!!! IT HAS NO NEGATES SO IT'S KINO
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EPIC TURN 0 PLAYS WITH HOLLIE SUE
>>531096926>Bro every single faggot on ladder is running lanceaYou have exactly equal chance of topdecking Called By/Crossout as they do of topdecking Lancea this has literally 0 impact on your ability to climb
>>531096926knightmare link for chaos hunter
called by for lancea
you are running the current best deck in the game
stop complaining that people are running silver bullets designed to stop you and start drawing your outs like everybody else does when they draw lancea
>>531096946>142 UR dust>459 SR dustBricked account
>>531097270>IT HAS NO NEGATES SO IT'S KINO>I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EPIC TURN 0 PLAYS WITH HOLLIE SUEThis but 100% unironically
>>531097270The deck is absolute cancer on par with Kashtira. Fucking disgusting to even look at.
>>531097401>>531097441So just draw the out for lancea each time it's activated against me, got it. I'll work on my drawing skills in solo mode
>>531096519>>531097950keep crying bitch nigga
>>531053721this nigga making pie charts
>>531098091It's not about "drawing skills" it's a mathematical certainty that, assuming both players are on 40 cards, your chance of drawing the out is exactly the same as theirs.
So Lancea has 0 impact on Maliss' overall winrate.
>>531096946>I have 7k gems>and MAYBE enough dust for 5 crafts>I have given no indication of whether or not you have out of archetype "staples" like 2x Gold Sarc or Link Decoderdisregarding some obvious issues, anon I don't get you
why do you have to ask?
either
a) you're a metafag, in which case you know to craft it now and milk it for all its worth or wait for Ryzeal
OR
b) you love ALICE and would do anything to play ALICE'S virus hacker deck and shouldn't need to be told to spend the rest of your gems and dust
Shoutouts to Trickz who was kind enough to sit through 50 turns of nothing for the deckout and putting me one deckout closer to never having to suffer playing Cook ever again.
>the only secret pack with Super Poly is the Evil HOMOs pack
ugh...
I guess I'll keep pulling the SHS pack to complete my SHS engine and dust what I don't need
i miss back when ygo monster cards weren't just effectslop and just regular monsters with lore as the text
$1k Tourney Qual! Tier 0 Maliss or Countered?
>>531099394yugiboomers opinions are valid and should be taken into consideration
>>531099464>nullifies any attack>Not actually immune to battle damage/destruction
>>531099394Yugioh wasn't good until Synchros
>>531098809I'm a returner that haven't played for almost two years so I don't know if my old decks can do anything in ranked. I got most of the staples except the newer ones.
>HE said Casual mode is a failed mode where fags scoop if they lose the coin flip
is HE right?
>>531101109>I don't know if my old decks can do anything in rankedthat depends entirely on what your old decks are, however:
DO YOU LOVE ALICE OR NOT?
if "yes" then the answer is easy, full steam ahead with your 7k gems (save your mats and keep in mind S:P is super duper generic)
if you like robot transformers with flames on them and rank 4 slop more than hacker Alice in Wonderland cyberse spam, you might wanna hold out for Ryzeal
>>531101427>is HE right?If HE said so, then it MUST be right. Hajime!
>>531101725My other decks are Dragonmaids, Lab, and Mathmech. I'm not sure how they fare in current meta.
Is liking bunny girls a good reason? And I wanted to save my gems for Dracotail but it's gonna be a long time until they're released.
>>531102304>LabLab is still relevant and typically will be at least somewhat with varying success, tons of potential variants, always able to slot in the new hot or freshly discovered trap tech (Simultaneous Equation Cannon for example ruled the day but isn't good now in Maliss meta)
you will directly benefit from Impulse crafts with Lab
>>531097950I really can't understand this sentiment. I missed it when it first came out, but it was always a fun matchup when I played against it, no matter what deck I used, and I always went for the VS duel lives if I saw one. It was fun enough to play against that I ended up crafting the whole thing, and I'm so glad I did. It's been so much fun to play, for like a year and a half now.
>>530961591 (OP)>Leave the malisp trannies to me
>>530979149Nah fuck you faggot. We need 3 cbtg and 3 cross out hand traps are what ruined the fun of the game.
>>531103239raping faggot Ryzeal players until they explode with Goblin Bikers
>>531100037Yugioh peaked at XYZs
>>531104535>nooooo I need to do my 30 minute combo uninterrupted kill yourself
>>531103213>activate quick effect>show one card, two cards, three cards, four cards>tag the monster out>show one card, two cards, three cards, four cards>tag the monster out>summon an unaffected tower>show one card, two cards, three cards, four cards>destroy cards on the field>tag the monster out>show one card, two cards, three cards, four cards>summon a monster and burn for 1500 damage>end turn>opponent's turn>activate quick effect>show one card, two cards, three cards, four cards
>>531104621Yes retard this is how yugioh was before you trannies came into the game and complained you can't play through your opponents board.
>>531101427Anyone got nudes of her? Can't find any just the stripper shit.
>>531104771>only trannies wanted to leave 15 omninegate SHS metawhat a bizarre hill to die on
>>531105673>wah wahh im bad at yugioh and I need to play on opponents turn to win gameThat's what you sound like when you defend handtraps. There are already good boardbreakers that can be searched with thrust. Handtraps are just sacky bullshit that never needed to exist.
>>531101427he is, only thing casual mode is useful for is complete proficiency tests requirements with jerry-rigged decks
>>531105851Nigger why not just play Pokemon if you're opposed to the literal fundamentals of how yugioh works?
>>531106497>muh fundamentals I promise you I have topped more events than you played this game longer than you. You can pick up goat and not deal with any of this hand trap bullshit even Edison handtraps are way more reasonable than shit like niggerblossom.
>why not play faggotmon or magic troonBecause I don't want to deal with summoning sickness or any of that shit I want to play cards out of my hand.
Yeah back when yugioh actually took skill and not relied on you sacking your opponent with hand trannies.
>>531106771just admit you're bad holy shit
>>531106771>You can pick up goat and not deal with any of this So why aren't you? Nobody is asking you to be here dropping your shit takes
Nothing is stopping you playing goat except you
I promise you I've won a world championship
People who say they like GOAT will do literally anything to avoid playing it I swear
>>531105851Handtraps were literally made to combat combo because of just how cancerous combo is. Board breaker barely matter because of the amount of negates and floating effects they have. And can you really call any other playstyle tranny when a literal tranny is the face of plants(sadly) a wombo combo deck.
Why are chinks letting me win duels with my selfTK deck?
Is it worth coming back for miminiggas? They looks cool
>>531105851>There are already good boardbreakers that can be searched with thrust. Handtraps are just sacky bullshit that never needed to exist.Anon if all handtraps were banned tomorrow the best decks wouldn't be building a board at all, they'd literally just FTK you before you even get a draw
>>531107327I play goat but play Edison way more now especially on DB. Way better and no hand tranny bullshit.
>>531107303Unironically I topped an SJC and am consistently in top 5% minimum in rated MD. Handtraps ruin the game and you are bad if you think otherwise.
>>531107158Solved game.
>>531107117Post rank. I am better than you.
>>531107973That is because Konami is lazy in banning ftk decks. Has been an issue in older formats with exodia too. Handtraps aren't the solution the solution is banning the ftk decks.
>>531103239>Malice trannies>Troonator literally kills itself with the quick effect to dodge stuffThe only tranny coded thing here is Ryzeal. Oh and Memento.
it's that retarded schizo that starts a retarded argument every day isn't it
>>531107524Again sounds like a skill issue.
>plant trannyIrrelevant and deck is bad anyway.
>>531108183>I play goat but play Edison way more now especially on DBOkay? Go enjoy that
>consistently in top 5% minimum in rated MDSo you play a game you despise constantly and are here to blame us for it?
Nigger why are you here? Who are you trying to impress?
finally a event where flame swordsman is viable
>>531108392>looks like an actual monster that this game was founded on>named deadnamer>btfos labtroons>btfos malisp troons>both decks look like waifuslopI can smell your axe wound from here, sir.
>cute girls
>troon! troon! troon!
what mental illness is this
>>531108470The point is this is what yugioh should've been not relying to playing on your opponents turn and if this is the way konami intends to go forward I want an MST like card that nukes your handtraps from the hand before you can play them so I can commit to my plays.
>>531108409>Again sounds like a skill issue.It's not the matter of skill but a matter of the health and fun of the game.
Is it worth it trying to climb ranked without playing Maliss?
>>531108843>The point is this is what yugioh should've beenidk how many times I can explain to you that there is no force on this earth preventing you from playing the formats that YOU like
And not a single person who plays modern gives even the slightest of shits about your boomer complaints about ash blossom
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>>531108795>cute girlsYou will never be a real woman. Cope and sneed.
>>531108974I climbed last season with pends, just a matter of winning enough coinflips.
>>531108974I just had the easiest M1 climb of my life with Mermails
>>531108645Your mechanic is literally trans coded you raging homo. I donโt make the rules.
Memento kills itself like trannies. Detonator kills itself like a tranny.
Itโs simple gameplay to IRL translation.
>>531108910>>531109065Its not fun to get nibiru'd, ashed, maxx c, fuwa, imperm on the rare chance you don't get a cheating chink and actually get to go first and why we need more anti-handtrap cards or make decks so powercrept to where they are completely insulated from them. Neither will solve the issue whereas board breakers are not respondable and let both players play.
>>531109290its not fun to watch your opponent FTK you and have no response
>>531109065dude it's literally a schizo who just starts arguments over retarded shit every day, he stopped for a little while, he was already outed as a retard multiple times
>>531109290Boardbreakers are even more braindead than handtraps
>>531109252waifu tranny projecting and coping this hard because he can't cover his 5'o clock shadow. This is what the average labtroon looks like and no amount of coping will ever be enough when people find your corpse and identify it as a man, you pedo. He is also into maLISP too. You are all the same.
>>531109290You think it's fun watching someone build a board you can't do anything about? Combo is a single player game. also how the are you dying to nib ash and the like when any modern combo deck can withstand up to 3 handtraps on average?(not even counting the direct counters)
>no you're a tranny because you like [insert thing nothing to do with trannies here]
>no YOU'RE a tranny because YOU like [insert a different thing that also has nothing to do with trannies here]
>repeat to infinity
>>531109598You aren't getting ftked though you just suck at playing through your opponents endboard. Massive skill issue.
>>531109926>Kurikara is braindeadNo wonder Konami had to dumb down the game for people like you.
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>>531107951The deck completely breaks when your opponent uses Dominus Impulse because your opponent will no longer be able to activate the Mimighoul monsters you gave them.
Guess what deck currently mains 3 Dominus Impulse.
>>531110058That's the thing though that will be logical end game for handtrannies, playing through 4+ handtrannies.
>>531107303you had 2 years to do that Chinksuku. give it up already
>>531109993The average Lab player goes to a YCS cosplaying as Arias and makes it to top cut btw.
Youโre still the one defending a literal tranny card, shounen nigger lmao.
Reminder YGO has had more waifus than your tranny mechas since inception but nice revisionism.
>>531110376>og yugioh had more waifusYou're just lying now only harpie lady and dmg. You can count on like one hand the amount of waifu shit was there vs cool monsters like summoned skull. Anime moe faggotry is a tumor on nu-gi-oh.
>>531110551Summoned Skull isnโt a tranny mecha that kills itself thoughbeit. Which is what that shounen tranny was implying and defending.
>>531109290The best yugioh is played when you handtrap them enough so they're forced to make a half-board that you can play through with your engine.
Activating 2-3 boardbreakers without caring about their board at all is not fun for both players.
Obviously the best way to fix this issue is reducing the powerlevel of the top decks but that obviously will not happen without banning hundreds of cards.
>>531110791Stop sucking joshua schimdt's dick, faggot. That guy isn't even good he plays stun.
>>531110892>Didn't even refute any of my pointsI accept your concession
Now that it's been a week or so, how good is Swordsoul this format?
>>531111629If you can turbo out Protoss youโre good.
>>531111629Floodgay turbo and it's more consistent now with the new tenyi
>>531111264Hi Joshua you will never top an event or even be top in a dc cup without stun. How does it make you feel?
Have you guys noticed that most decks in the OCG are releasing with in-archetype handtraps? Is this the future of Yugioh?
>>531112356yes and its a good thing
>>531107951Yes, still fun and cheap BUT
>>531110230 is right. Also the hit to Snake Eye Oak hurts so now you have to roll Lyrilusc or Purrely for cheap lvl 1 bodies.
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They're next for support right
I hate White Forest slop so fucking much. Either play it pure or don't fucking play it.
I love handtraps
not even mad when my opponent does it to me, it's basically a universal game mechanic at this point and something to take into account when building decks and is an overall net positive addition to the game
preparing for maliss was a goddamn mistake. I'm getting raped by other decks and bricking on that fucking lancea when I could have had useful cards. I hate BO1 so fucking much. absolutely fucking unplayable game
>>531114531new tcg raven card is indirect support and it both searches doombroker and/or shits out a free libro ritual body. ashlan is also fun if you can get mystigirl effect on your opponent's turn for some interaction. im also mixing in the new psychic support for extra memage and searchability
>D/D/D player had sex all over a Maliss fag
I kneel
>>531112356ideally every archetype would have its own layered interaction and then they could ban all the >90% usage handtraps
>>531084979>activate both>now you only have 1 spot left for S/Tfor what purpose
Counter traps should be made more powerful, but also more specific and you should have to draw them. Hand traps should be rarer and not be usable in every deck, you should have to have a specific type or attribute to use them. Also, unban pot of greed, there's no point anymore.
>>531112356Yes.
I love when I can just open all engine cards and still win going second instead of praying I draw 4 handtraps with and 1 card starter to even have a chance
>>531112356in-archetype handtraps and boardbreakers are the coolest shit ever I don't get why it's taken them this long to start making them commonplace
optimal accessories to broadcast to bronze V that i'm a braindead waitfutard while I rank with maliss?
bonus points for retarded tech suggestions
>>531120054all the maliss cosmetics, duh
>bonus points for retarded tech suggestionsa small myutant engine
>>531118343>and you should have to draw themyou had me, and you lost me
We're only 10 days into Maliss format and I'm bored as shit desu
>>531120294No search effects makes the game more random, more random means it's more fair.
>>531112289I got mine done on day one by playing Crusadia OTK.
You can do it, Anon.
I would like to see traps used more, and games taking more than 3 turns.
>>531123384Play stun then.
>watch yugituber playing on gold/plat rank compilation and them making fun of people who dont know how to use their decks or instantly scooping/bricking
>"hey, this seems like a good place to relearn how to play the game or play with my weaker petdecks"
>9/10 I get matched with someone playing a high tier deck and comboing for 15 minutes straight and ending on 10 interuptions and a floodgate
Why do these guys cherrypick their replays like this? Anyone who actually plays on the latter would release how full of shit they are.
Memento seems ok now that Blue Eyes meta slaves are jumping on maliss. Got to Diamond 1, but a push to Master will be difficult...
>>531124470Master Duel is so cheap to get into that even new players can make top tier decks, there really isn't an "easy" rank
Honestly you're more likely to see dumb shit in Master 1 once people have no reason to climb anymore
I really should have done the spell counter and gemini lifetime missions before I reached a point where I could de-rank
I wish casual was an option for missions
>>531125762Yeah, the game is pretty generous with new accounts, so i even see tier 1 decks in rookie. They could try to improve match making so there's more satisfying games where it's less one-sided
>>531126793MTG had a starter deck only mode that this game really ought to steal but Konami seems to fucking hate the idea of new players getting into this game
Why do combo fags complain about people surrendering but then when people actually let them go for lethal they proceed to jerk off further?
>>531128072>Konami seems to fucking hate the idea of new players getting into this gameKonami seems to hate the idea of fun in general.
>Maliss retard completely messes up
>still has ash and handtraps to fall on
I hate that every deck is just made for retards.
>>531126294Just farm them during events.
I did Gemini during the 2008 event and the spell counter one during the level limited one.
Regarding the Gemini one, Super Double Summon (and by extension Gemini Summoner's effect) doesn't count towards it.
>>531128235>when people actually let them go for lethal they proceed to jerk off further?When I was new I lost a game to some magnetic turtle or whatever the fuck I'd never heard of against Tear one time
Never gone Battle Phase without a negate since, its nothing personal
Loaner decks were a mistake
>>531128072A structure deck only mode would be awesome.
>>531129402I hope Maliss is in the next loaner deck.
>>531128875You are not ready for Ryzeal
>>531128235You have never gotten Mahaama'd or had Battle Fader used against you. Once some bullshit like that happens, you will always set up negates before going for lethal
>>531131269Enjoy getting Waboku'd at the start of your turn.
>Orcust won the TCG NA WCQ
OCGbros?!??? I thought Orcust was shit
>>531093868You've got enough cards there you can dust to complete your March Hares and the rest.
Zombie Field X2
Mantis X2
Berserker X2
Battlewasp Synchro X3
Tenyi Synchro X2 (you only need one)
Hearts Crypter X2 (you only need one)
Eto X1
Assault whatever spell x1
Grand total, you get 150 UR dust, which gives you 5 crafts:
3 March Hare
1 Maliss in Underground
1 Dormouse
>>531131937>English toilet paper is better than Japanese toilet paper thanks for the tip. I'll pick some up tonight.
>>531095091And what can Maliss do against Lancea king retard?
>>531097401
>>531131937more like...maliss lost AGAIN
How good is the VS support? Thinking on if I want to skip out on making Ryzeal and just make a VS deck instead
>>531132119VSK9 is the best deck in the game
It's a long way off though you can easily build Ryzeal then save up for it
>>531097401Except Maliss also struggles going second.
So already, 50% of your games are pretty much a dud.
Of those 50% around 30% of them, your opponent will draw Lancea
Of those 30% around 15% you will have Called by in Hand to negate Lancea. Great, so I lose 85% of my games!
Oh, but Maliss also auto loses to Maxx C and Fuwaloss.
>>531132106>And what can Maliss do against Lancea >Quotes post explaining exactly what it can do against Lanceawhat did he mean by this
>>531129310>>531131269Yea sure I have battle fader when I have 0 cards, crashed my monster into yours with no gain while you have 3 extra negates on your side.
>>531132234>>531132119VSK9 is the strongest deck since Tearlaments.
>try to stop a tenpai subhuman from summoning magnamhut to not search
>he had the white dragon and the spell anyway
I wish reporting for cheating ever fucking worked
>>531132321I don't get these posts. Do you think everyone else is just pretending to make it to Master 1 with the deck just to trick you?
If you're losing 85% of your games with the literal best deck in the game then that's on you
got this royal. I will fuck you up, sprights
>>531134179lol this fucks up maliss and ryzeal
I made a room for the next event
>>531134179WHAT IS THIS ANTI-RYZEAL FLOODGATE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FLOODGATE IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR PLAYING IT
>>531133075That's the nature of silver bullets. Math is Math. The odds of you opening the counter to Lancea when your opponent has it is lower.
Pic is more accurate numbers.
And that's not factoring in Maxx C either, or Maliss going second.
Overall Maliss's total winrate in the meta from Lancea alone is 41%
>>531134326>malisswhy the fuck would they made them all a level 3 anyway when they can be literally any other level
>>531134449>The odds of you opening the counter to Lancea when your opponent has it is lower.No it isn't? 3 Lancea vs 3 Called/Crossout
>>531134808I see you failed statistics class.
you have a dice
opponent have a dice
the chances of you rolling 456 is the same as your opponent rolling 456, which is 50%
but the probability of both of you rolling 456 is NOT 50%
it's actually 50% of 50% which is 25%
>>531134886Waiting for you to explain to me how 3 is actually less than 3
>>531134918Bingo
>>531134808You and your opponent both have a 33% chance of opening the card.
However, 66% of those games, Lancea won't show up. You will draw Called By in many of those games.
Thus the odds of you having Called By/Crossout when they have Lancea are not 33% but in fact 11%
Meaning, you will only counter Lancea 1/3 of the time that it's played, and Lancea will be played 1/3 of your games.
Thus 1/9 games you successfully counter Lancea, while 2/9 games are an automatic loss that you can't do anything about.
That's not factoring in Shenanigans like a second Lancea being played, other floodgates like Chaos Hunter, Maxx C, Fuwaloss, etc.... or losing the coinflip.
But all in all 2 out of 9 games, you're going to be hitting surrender immediately because there's nothing you can do.
>>531135069I mean, if you could read:
>>531134918>>531135486What's 1/3 x 1/3?
You should have learned this in middle school, you reprobate.
>2 roach
>3 ash to counter roach
>3 droll to counter roach
>2 called by to counter roach/ash/droll
>1 crossout to counter roach/ash/droll/called by
that 1/4 of maindeck slots just to counter roach
can purge negate roach?
why did this part have to exist. why is my wife fated to be abused by slop decks in all forms
>>531136048could be fun in an argostars deck...
>all these words to explain why you can't climb with the strongest deck in the game
>>531135839if they have a card on the field, yeah
wait, why would you use impulse in maliss if they're all DARK
>>531136275I wasn't the guy saying you can't climb. But you are playing with a deck where 2 out of 9 games you're going to lose no matter what.
>>531136216The Argostars in that summon from the backrow aren't considered monster cards. Just like how the D/D/D Deus Ex dude can suck up specifically "monster cards", so it can devour pendulum scales when you activate them.
>>531136461purge is what turns off dark lil bro
>>531136461Read the card.
You won't escape judgement that easily
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lmao what a bitch
>>531131956imagine if MD was like the new shadowverse, shit wouldn't survive one month
>>531134504not level two because spright, not level 4 because level 4 is busted on its own, not level one because there's a lot of level one support too
>>531134401Unlike fusion link where i can adapt any of my decks, I have absolutely no idea what to play for under 5. I may have to use the loaners for the entirety of the event.
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>>531134401there's no room
>>531137526I deleted it because no one showed up and I wanted to look for other rooms
>>531137526I will play the shark one and I'm sure that's all you will face
I have a strong feeling this next event's ladder is just going to be 99.9% loanercucks. I hope you're ready to deal with Naturia Beast turbo
>>531135486>However, 66% of those games, Lancea won't show up. You will draw Called By in many of those games.For some reason you're making the massive assumption that opening Called By/Crossout is bad when Lancea isn't in play. That just isn't true. Opening Called By going 1st is exactly as much of an instant win as resolving Lancea
>>531138090Yes, by me going first and pass on kragen
I'm gonna play Ghostrick and Umi Control in the event.
Why should I or shouldn't I put this in my Maliss deck?
HE says it sucks but 46% of the lists on HIS site are still using it
>>531138090>had been planning to start building a Purrely deck>but it wasn't gonna be soon>this event dropsI'm playing loaners purely because I don't have any other options
>>531138090>OTK you with Assembled NightingaleI'll be fine
>>531138943You can try beauty pass.
>>531138778DeGAYed is retarded. It's a good card to help you extend and protect your monsters from HTs if you open it so they resolve. It also opens new combo lines off of Rabbit.
OCG plays all 3 traps, and there's little reason not to.
>>531138449No, I'm not.
I'm only calculating the odds of opening Called By to counter Lancea. Everything else is irrelevant in this conversation. Called by and Crossout are staples. Everyone runs them. The fact still remains that 22% of your games are a guaranteed automatic loss to Lancea. This fact has not changed.
>>531138778dkayed doesn't play the game. I would take anything he says with a massive grain of salt.
>>531137097they can make them all have different level instead
>>531138449>Opening Called By going 1st is exactly as much of an instant win as resolving LanceaLet's see:
>Go First>Opponent: Lancea>Respond: Called by>Opponent: Second Lancea because it's not OPT>LOSEOK...
>Go First>Opponent: Lancea>Respond: Called By>Opponent: Ghost Belle (as it's good against Maliss)>LoseNext
>Go First >Opponent: Lancea>Respond: Called By>Opponent: Maxx C>LoseLooks like the opponent has way more options to respond to trying to counter Lancea than Maliss has to counter Lancea:
3 Ghost Belle
2 Maxx C
2 more Lanceas
3 Fuwaloss
That's 10 additional cards, giving them much higher odds of having a second response, vs. Maliss opening the second Called By or Crossout. Of those 10 btw, 7 are staples in every deck this format, and Ghost Belle is a generally good card for any GY focused format.
Sure doesn't seem like resolving Called By is "just as much of a guaranteed win" as you're making it out to be.
>>531141472that is a lot of text to say very little
>>531138778After we got March Hare this card isn't necessary.
You can do the dormouse 1 card combo without using this card, it only makes your white rabbit combo better.
People don't play it to reduce the number of "bricks" in your deck as this card by itself isn't a combo starter.
>>531141472Ghost Belle is only good against Maliss if you pair with another handtrap
Otherwise it does nothing
>>531142574what are you even gonna belle
white binder?
>>531142932You Belle the choke point, yeah. There's several points where you can Belle to stop their entire game plan, White Binder is one of them, yes.
>>531143541but didn't they summon apollo before white binder
>>531143629Depends on their combo line.
>>531138778You need it to use the field spell effect that boost Maliss link monster's attack.
What are you guys playing for under 5 event? I am gonna be playing an adam pile with block golem
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kek, you can draw FOUR off an apollousa with this card
>>531147467Gonna give Mimighouls a try
>>531152576Or draw 3 repeatedly.
I don't know why I'm only getting matched with rookies in the event. It's not fair to them or to me, having to exclusively face the DM loaner and every match being a Dragoon pass.
>>531160597if you think about it, dragoon turbo is a decent tutorial to ease new player into modern ygo
it's dark magician, so it got the sense of familiarity going
it only needs simple combo to reach the endboard
the endboard is simple and not too overwhelming
and going against dragoon itself teaches you how to work through disruption, and to be creative with your outs
also teaches you to read your opponent card lest you waste all your shit futilely
it's still feels like, 10s ygo, but that's already halfway here
how the fuck did I get the title from the fusion/link event using only HEROs?
>>531130074except not all structure decks are created equal, theres a lot of useless shit in them
>>531128072Konami hates the idea that modern isn't the only format to play so they can't sell a new meta deck
>>531162684because nobody wants to sit through your combo
is fluffal good? i want to make a cute deck but I dunno
maybe madolche
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>>531141472>>Opponent: Maxx Cand now you're pretending ash and droll aren't being played at 6 copies vs 2
>>531167298yugitubers are saying that droll is useless in this format though
>>531168987Droll is LITERALLY always good and cancer. Very few decks can circumvent the downside of not getting to draw and search. You can droll yourself with Malice to stop Maxx C or Charmies and you still end up with a board.
Some dude drolled me on Branded and I still ended with 4 cards in hand I grabbed from GY.
But your average deck just dies to droll just as much as it dies to Maxx C.
>>531169615>But your average deck just dies to droll just as much as it dies to Maxx C.this isn't even remotely true
for any deck that dies to droll you can name 20 that die to the roach
>>531169615Maliss, BE, SE, Fiendsmith slop all don't care about Droll
>>531170393which means all of them can run it as a maxx c out
>>531169615Droll only prevents searching to add to your hand and only after allowing one search. It's not a good card.
Do I just surrender if skill drain is flipped
like what the fuck do you do
>>531167298Droll still draws them one card which is an additional hand trap they could draw into.
Ash is the same as always. Except previously you had 6 cards ready to tackle Maxx C, now you only get 3, because Called By and Crossout go to Lancea.
Also, you're saying you need a three card combo to be able to play the game, listen to yourself and how ridiculous this is getting. The odds are still in favor of Lancea on its own winning the entire duel, and this playing out 22% of your games. No other deck has a silver bullet this bad they gotta deal with except Maliss right now. Which is exactly the point being made.
>Hurr you can't win with the best deck!!You have a guaranteed loss ratio of 22% compounded onto your usual stats, lmao. The fact that people are trying to argue against this basic math is ridiculous. Maliss would need to have a winrate of over 70% like Tearlaments to offset the drawback of the silver bullet.
>>531169615that's retarded. droll is just a mild inconvenience to the vast majority of even remotely meta-adjacent decks
branded doesn't die to droll
maliss doesn't die to droll
fiendsmith doesn't die to droll
memento doesn't die to droll
snake eye doesn't die to droll
tearlaments doesn't die to droll
labrynth doesn't die to droll
swordsoul doesn't die to droll
unchained doesn't die to droll
blue eyes doesn't die to droll
centurion doesn't die to droll
mathmech doesn't die to droll
the list goes on
Apparently when your opponent sees salamangreat and Maliss cards together they bail.
>>531170734do you genuinely think everyone else but you is just pretending that maliss is good?
you are the only person who can't win with this deck man jfc
>>531170695Get rid of it with your spells and traps.
>>531170695Summon big beater. They canโt really do much against a Legatia or big 4000 dragon.
>buy the Maliss special bundle
>get no Maliss SR or UR cards, just a bunch of Battlewasps amd Tenyi stuff and a few copies of Liberator Eto
Guess I just wasn't meant to be a Malissfag
Is Liberator Eto any good for anything
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>>531171013my big beater and removals requires an effect
>>531170894The point is that people's complaints about Lancea being unfair and unfun as it decides games on its own way too often are completely valid and justified. As it's backed by mathematical proof.
22% of your games you're going to lose and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.
You're just defending this shit cause it nets you free wins, and you let some YouTube hype man talk you up into believing Maliss is some Tier 0 menace.
The deck is powerful, but the gap between it, and everything else in the format isn't big. There are ways to stop it without Lancea, but no one is bothering with that, because Lancea alone will win you the game.
>>531171029DINOMORPHIA SUPPORT
>>531171202this is the shifter argument all over again
if you want to get rid of lancea konami need to not print decks that are instant FTKs unless you drop lancea
don't even try to pretend that maliss' full ceiling endboard is breakable
>>531171202Donโt bother with Lancea defenders. Theyโre a lost cause.
Just wait patiently until we get the REAL cancer deck that doesnโt die to one card, aka Ryzeal. Then theyโll bitch and moan and realize Malice has always been a fraud deck. Only managed to do shit AFTER Ryzeal got nuked and getting the @ignister support.
>>531170695Your Drillbeam?
>>531171351>don't even try to pretend that maliss' full ceiling endboard is breakableSo you mean a combo that has to go completely uninterrupted, opened a perfect hand, and Maliss went first?
This isn't exclusive to Maliss.
>>531171351>this is the shifter argument all over againShifter got brought down to 1 for that reason exactly. And Shifter has additional drawbacks in that if you draw it after playing ANYTHING at all, it's a complete brick. Drawing Lancea after playing Maxx C or Ash or doing your combo isn't bad at all of the format benefits Banish decks.
>>531171526Donโt tell him if Swordsoul goes first uninterrupted and shits out Protoss you canโt play the game.
The power level of โweak decksโ is still high enough to push your shit in so the whole โa full uninterrupted endboardโ point has always been disingenuous.
>>531171526>This isn't exclusive to Maliss.when did I say it was? its just degenerate combo FTK deck #5000
which is why nobody is gonna take you seriously when you cry about losing with the best deck in the game
>>531171696Right, so why is it ok for Maliss to be forced to lose 22% of the time?
That's what you're defending here.
This entire discussion happened because someone was complaining how impossible it was to climb the ladder with Lancea in the format, only for idiots to jump him for
>Hurr it playing best deck!!Only for me to defend him with mathematical backing.
I feel like most people are pretending Maliss is tier 0 so they feel morally justified in farming free wins with Lancea, because if they admitted the card was broken, it'd get hit, lmao.
>>531171202>22% of your games you're going to lose and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.This is meaningless unless you also calculate the % of games where you're going to WIN and there's nothing your opponent can do about it
Which is far higher than 22%
>>531171928We can calculate that actually. Though I'm pretty sure the game and other apps are keeping track of the winrate.
Maliss has a "guaranteed win" with the right combo, going first, and that's mostly cause people haven't learned the matchup yet. Going second, the Maliss winrate drops to like sub 40%
>playing pure fire king, opponent makes me go second
>combo off on THEIR turn
>they scoop in response
this deck is a hell of a lot of fun
>>531172072>and that's mostly cause people haven't learned the matchup yetlmao actually delusional
>>531171924Itโs the Joshua Nigger Schmidt effect. Iโve been shitting on this faggot since Malice was a thing in TCG because heโs been fear mongering and having major double standards as per usual with his Jewish fat fuck ass.
Look at all the fucking tournament Numbers and notice Ryzeal making up to 70% of the total decks in some cases and heโs still bitching about Malice and justifying floodgates like itโs a moral duty.
Itโs a moral duty to make it so Malice doesnโt have fun and floodgate them. Then he cries once someone flips TCBOO on stream.
People who subscribe to his way of thinking are lost cause. You cannot hate floodgates and justify them at the same time, that only makes you a disingenuous faggot. Now should Konami make OP decks with infinite gas? Thatโs another debate, but Iโll keep defending Malice against that one thing, floodgate being justified. Never will I defend floodgates like those retards do.
>>531172072I was able to beat maliss uninterrupted with fucking phantom knights going second
Sure, my hand was good, but the deck isn't unbeatable
>>531170734yeah i honestly didn't think it was THIS bad against Lancea. Mind you, I'd still invest the 14k gems I did on Maliss since its a waifu deck but yeah, I wouldn't been so hyped by knowing this.
Oh well, plenty of good waifu deck coming in the next 6-8 months who dont have that problem (white forest new supp, k9, dracotail, dragonmaid new supp, sky striker new supp).
>>531171928Well, they have to go first for that. So it's not higher than 50%
From there, we can subtract the % of times you get Lancea'd, so we're down to 28%.
From there, subtract the games you get Maxx C'd/Fuwa'd.
After that, calculate the times you DIDN'T open the "guaranteed win" combo. Which btw, is Normal Summon Dormouse or Cheesy Cat + Bystial.
Also, you have to pretend Dormouse didn't get Impermed.
All in all, the % of games Maliss outright won and the opponent couldn't do anything about it looks like less than 10% if we're being generous.
>>531172137I mean, you're never going to learn the matchup by shotgunning Lancea every time you see Maliss Sleeves.
>>531172304The thing is Konami will see the stats themselves, and see how many free wins Lancea has against Maliss, and how it also gatekeeps every other banish deck as well like Swordsoul Tenyi which just got new cards, or Chrystron which got new cards last pack, etc.... and they're gonna do something about it.
My money is on Lancea getting hit sometime in the near future.
>>531172304>Itโs a moral duty to make it so Malice doesnโt have fun and floodgate themthis but unironically
>He rates Malice the Tottenham of YGO decks
>He forgets Ryzeal won most tournaments and even decks like memento before Malice did anything at all
>Malice is already outdated despite the @ignister support and Ryzeal nuked
>>531172304Lancea is as cancer as Shifter except literally any deck can run them instead of 2-3 decks
>>531172536>Joshua Buttsniffers
>1 card combo wombo pseudo FTK deck
:|
>1 card combo wombo pseudo FTK deck but anime girl
:o
>>531172386>Also, you have to pretend Dormouse didn't get Impermed.if you're unaware that Maliss can dodge all targeting negates then no wonder you're only maintaining a 10% winrate jesus christ
>>531172536best top 2 deck
at least it will be a good deck against Ryzeal
>>531173014LORD TYPHON WINS IT AGAIN.
>>531172810>droll should be banned because it stops my honest SHS petdeck from FTKing you
>>531172914If you opened the trap card.
That's a two card combo.
>>531173014TY-PHON rarely matters except when it does
Remember this is Maliss with everyone and their mother maining Lancea.
This is the equivalent of playing Snake-Eyes except everyone can run Shifter with no activation condition and it only applies on your turn.
>droll should be banned
Correct
>>531173162except lancea only hits maliss bad
and people only use lancea because everyone and their mother use maliss
and now you need to think long and hard why everyone and their mother use maliss
>>531173371>and now you need to think long and hard why everyone and their mother use malissBecause Alice in Wonderland is extremely popular.
>>531173472not long and hard enough
>>531173371I'm just saying how broken Maliss because it still performs this well even when everyone is main decking Shifter
>>531173607Are you say Alice in Wonderland isn't extremely popular?
>>531173737not long enough
not hard enough
not long and hard enough
>>531173656fair
will still be downplayed tho
Dragoon should not be legal
>>531173143or literally any other extender
the odds of you opening that shit while i open none is less than the odds of mine opening any other extender while you open imperm
I sure am enjoying fiendsmith.event
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>>531176873I really should've either crafted live twin or roar or just run with exodia
but man, seeing all that hits on my slop is just so discouraging and dragoon turbo is just so much easier
JUST FUCKING BAN BRANDED FUSION ALREADY
>>531173889You sure seem to enjoy thinking about long and hard things when we're talking about little girls.