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>>531308371
Am i allowed to downplay dirt still?
>Runeniggers now have 30+ heal, multiple infinite scaling cheap board clears, board flood and T10 auto win
>Portal has Karula for even more artifag beta cancer
>aggro and roach is dead
fun meta incoming, nothing changed
Turn 1(1): whatever
Turn 2(2): Luminous lancer
Turn 3(1): Valse
Turn 4(3): Zirco evo
Turn 5(4): Luminous mage
Turn 6(3): Dogs
Turn 7(3): JENO LEVIN
Turn 8(5): Amalia or Amelia+ luminous
Total of 22 at best this can be played at 9 for free super realistically 10. I'm thinking they might be cooking
Not looking good swordbros what we desperately need are answers to lesbo, Alloute and Kuon. She helps in other midrange decks when its no super vs no super but you generally don't want to drag the game into a topdecking fiesta. If you need to deal with wide board Apollo is just superior.
My GP opponent outplayed me really hard here
still won
>>531327648With a perfect hyper-optimised curve you can play her and have the rally activate on turn 7. But that's god draw territory.
Dirtbros, what do you think Boostards will still be stealing our stuff for themselves? I hope the bronze and silver cards dump more sigils to make hoarding them for Mordecai easier.
I await the day of Dirt.
>>531327770You literally can't
>>531327359 (OP)It's always morally right to verbally, physically and sexually assault Runesissies.
>Don't want to commit to a long game that I'll stop playing when the pack drops in t -2 days
Anyone got some suggestions
Isn't set two just gonna be Portal and Rune land again
>>531327559Honest haven will save us
Abyss will be unplayable dogshit in set 2. No, the revealed neutrals and the revealed 6pp zombie will not salvage this garbage in the least. Playing the new abyss golds and legs will be straight up bait and actively make your deck worse.
It's over. Time to sit this one out.
>>531327848turn 1 coin play a 2pp card that gives you 2 bodies => 2
turn 2 play a 2pp card that gives you 2 bodies => 4
turn 3 play a 2pp card that gives you 2 bodies + quickblader => 7
turn 4 pitslut evo => 10
turn 5 lumimage => 14
turn 6 lumimage + coin out a coachwoman => 20
>>531327903everyone but dragon and abyss got a bulk of good cards
>>531327559Keep crying faggot. I'm gonna keep playing Rune anyway.
Haha... Imagine the melty when Set 3, when rune get new spellboost legend...
>>531327829I will play dirt when it has its own version of deal 20 face from accumulating dirt they haven't print the first damn thing
>>531327829I wish dirt mordecai wasn't the pink live*twin but some cool magic monster...
>2pp spell give one follower on the field +2 attack and -2 defense
love this card. one of the best designed card in the game so far and it's just a simple neutral bronze.
Are we not getting Erika next set
>>531327903Portal is going to stop being budgetcraft with all artifact running the 6 drop leg, all puppet running the 5 drop leg and artifact potentially running a few of the 5 drop
this whore is the new leader?
Half of the set is revealed my predictions
TOP TIER (not ordered)
Artifact, Spellboost, Sword, Fairies
MID TIER
Dirt, Puppets, Storm Haven, Abyss
SHIT TIER
Everything else
>1-1 in the group A finals so far
>in the third game, all 3 of my cerbs are in the bottom 20
Fuck you, KMR.
>>531327652how much crystals do I need to pay to get the disconnect opponent button
>>531327701>Blood used to be much better by itself, the shadow aspects seem to take the spotlight yet they also fail to deliver.KMR has fucked abyss because they don't have enough of either their shadow or blood abilities. Blood currently has the makings of an aggressive wrath deck but with NONE OF THE VENGEANCE/WRATH cards to give them that midgame power spike that they need to close out the game.
The shadow half of abyss has some mid-late game plays that can get some decent value. Especially ones that don't need evo points. BUT THEY HAVE FUCKALL IN THE EARLY GAME TO STABILIZE. Zombieman won't save control abyss. Abyss didn't need more help in the turn 5+ zone. Abyss needs options to staunch the bleeding and stabilize in turns 1-4.
>>531327652got you sweating there though
>>531328306sorry gaijin, tanaka needed that match win not to jump off the work office tomorrow
I'm in A finals. After how many wins should I concede drop to get the legendary?
We should start pre-emptively bitching about Cerb right now. She's gonna be a menace next set
I need a bronze 2-3pp werewolf girl with rush that does something please. I trust the plan.
>>531328560if you get the seer globe and use it to animate something before vialing that's worth about 1/3rd of a leggo. I'd say that 1/3rd of any leggo is as nice if not nicer than 1 random leggo of an old set
>8 mana do nothing
>Only useful if enemy has no board
>You'd rather setup Amalia on empty board into Albert
Its over sword didn't get any relevant card
>>531328204sex with angels
>>531328401what do you mean you don't actively 2-1 yourself with reaper's brick?
what do you mean you don't want to kill followers with rage??
what do you mean you don't have a follower on board to draw with 2pp soul brick?
what do you mean you don't want to use your 3pp wincon setup as 2 damage removal to stabilize???
what do you mean you don't have cards in hand??
>UNGA BUNGA ME GO FACE
>1 (one) 5/5 put a ward down
>concedes
Is there anything more stupid than face dragon?
>>531328560you dont get any legendarys in group A
>>531327652were the complaints about disconnect hacks actually real?
>>531328240>Tier 0Satan Climb with Norman
>Tier 1"Pure" Spellboost>Artifact>Roach
>Tier 2Ward Haven>Puppet/Midrange Sword>Fairies
>Emerald TierAbyss Control>Dragon Ramp>Aggro decks
>>531328694You put this into an albert turn and they MUST have a removal from effect or they're eating 17 damage. 19 if you evo'd him. 20 if you super evo'd him.
I'm really burned out of ranked grinding in this game
is there anything else in this game other than constructed ranked matches?
yesterday I played on the knockout table for my lobby daily
it was the most intense and draining sweaty mirror match I've played in a month
feels like every other card game has something to do other than constructed 1v1 netdeck battles
>>531328897Amalia is just a better setup for albert turn and is more versatile
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Now i wait to build a wall.
>>531328560Legendary was B finals, dummy.
>>531329119Both are ridiculously good.
I don't know what swordfags are crying about.
>>531329113We get draft next month, until then not really.
>>531328401They know next set Ruleyne will be able to stall the fuck out of everyone until Cerbussy can clean house and Valnareik will be boosted by Beryl, Rage and Balto on top of her own Lust followers. Meanwhile all the other Omens will only have what they get in Set 3 for their archetype.
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Close enough welcome back Immortal Thane
>artifact and rune are still the deck to beat in the upcoming set
>>531329286>haven and sword downplayer
>>531329234NEW APISS LEGENDARY
Shitbert, 10pp 1/3
Storm, can attack twice
Fanfare: deal 10 damage to your leader and 3 damage to all other allied followers. Then, gain +1 damage for each other allied follower that survives.
>>531329113Give the AI a funny deck and play vs them.
The bot's roughly as good as an AA Sapphire player.
How Zwei and 3some card going to help me as puppet? Turn 5/6/7 is where board vomit and killing blow begin.
Why are Artifacts so bullshit with their stats:effects? All their ships can lose 2/2 in stats and they would still be good card because their effects are always relevant, and the followers that summon them can afford to lose stats there as well.
>>531329234Its doesn't do anything other than being a removal bait
>>531329413It's one of the two pet crafts.
What's the verdict? Are we back yet?
It's not possible to have a portal rune meta next set because portal obliterates rune without any chances for rune to fight back
>>531328737I bet angels are kinky as fuck
>plays 2 0pp cards
>don't really have lethal
>opponent quits
sapphire btw
>>531328867>>531328240Umm where's fish dragon?
>>531329551The verdict is that the silvers and bronzes will save abyss while all the legends and golds are unusable dogshit, other than maybe the new dark general being barely usable.
>>531329413They have to be future proof since Portal will use the same tokens even after multiple expansions of powercreep.
>>531328120Good to see cards with multiple ways of use, but I hoped we would have a couple months of more vanilla stuff before ramping things up.
>>531328749>5/5 wardhmmmmm..
i wonder who could possibly be behind this post..
>>531327359 (OP)When do they spoil the bronzes and silvers?
There's gotta be deck defining shit there right? Buncle, Teachings, Puppeteer are all the reason their decks win!
>>531329762portal update reveals all bronze and silvers
>>531329639Swimming with the fishes
>>531329762they usually just dump the rest of the cards day before expansion
>>531328120"He" grows stronger....
>>531329580Nigga Rune v Portal is 2/10 Rune favored.
>>531329119just run both?
>opponent has boardAmelia, trade
>opponent has no boardYurius
>opponent might have aoeYurius
>opponent might have single targetAmelia
now you're safe to drop Albert because there is no way they answer your turn AND defend against Albert.
>>531329678Ginsetsu is playable if you can make it to 9pp. Doing that is the question.
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>>531324341IT WORKED BROS THE TIME TO GRAND PRIX IS NOW 3 WINS NO LOSSES BUY BUY BUY
attached in the bottom left was my STRONGEST opponent
>>531329973Making it to 9pp shouldn't be difficult in rune's meta ;)
>>531329973>Ginsetsu is playable if you can make it to 9pp.She is too slow for what she does. At 9pp, clearing the board doesn't achieve much when you should be trying to win the game by that point, and pretty much every craft can kill you through a bunch of do-nothing 3hp wards that don't even have aura or barrier.
my prediction on aether having a ward was correct so i predict there will also be fourth element follower (guardian of fire) with ward
salefa - water
aether - wind
maeve - earth
>>531329903there is a significant problem with running cards that are simultaneously expensive and situational
especially in a deck which doesn't run a billion draw sources
holy shit first time conductor actually gave me a win directly
>>531328401>Print a bunch of self-ping cards for Abyss>Print none of the payoff so the self ping is purely a downsideThe merge was so bad, they didn't even give Abyss something unique like the sanguine keyword so it's just a half-assed class merge.
>>531330136the sad fact is that ginsetsu is best against abyss and only another ginsetsu can reasonably clear it
>>531329989group b was comfy as fuck. easy sleeves, free legendary, it's the good life. group a was a trap.
>>531329113This is why we need mahjong!
>>531329580>It's not possible to have a portal rune meta next set>both giga cancer and only 1-2 slightly unfavored matchupsok
>>531329973Haven consistently makes it to turn 9 with setup to kill in two trurns through wards and still loses to Satan 100% of the time.
>>531329683they barely even play the damn things since they always get duplicated
if they needed to adjust stats to compensate for powercreep, they could easily just make future duplicators add +x/+y
>>531330345Yeah, that's literally the only matchup where Ginsetsu is useful. Except Abyss will have a 0.1% playrate in set 2, so there's not really a real reason to run an anti-Abyss tech card in your Abyss list...
>>531330295You'd be surprised at how often this happens, this card is lowkey busted
I'm cutting her as soon as next set hits though, she's a prime odin target
There IS a chance spellboost rune will run that new legendary isnt there
>lost to elves because I ended on alpha castle to 19 health instead of 16 health with double castle
Question: If you have a complete compendium by sheer luck as a F2P+ (100 pack), wouldn't make sense to spend all your Rupies this format so you can stock up on Vials with all the lego dupes so you don't have to worry about pulling legos for classes you don't want in the next expansion?
>>531330460spell tumors already use ER and it's only 1 cost, he's an instant x2-3
>>531330459It's been 2 days since I started playing this deck and she never won directly. Indirectly by making the opponent use resources, sure. But directly is a first.
Usually she just dies like a bitch immediately to whichever of the 10000 removals in the game.
>>531330459She's a fraudulent card that wouldn't do jack shit if it were popular enough to play around
Is Rune going to be tier 3 so i will feel very good for dropping it for a while atleast?
I am gonna do my final tomorrrow and accept whatever happens happens
Diamond was the same rank i am now in Topaz btw
>>531328120This legit looks like it could be a staple. Cheap removal for early game while late game giving +2 to one of your finishers. I suppose some classes just don't really need it though.
>>531329973you can very easily survive to 9 if you make it your goal but doing that doesn't actually win you the game
not only stalling is autoloss to rune and pretty bad vs forest, haven has access to a better lategame as well
suppose you can try farming dragon/sword aggrotards
>>531330460If there's another card that gives a big spellboost then maybe but otherwise it dilutes your Owen pulls for something that doesn't further your gameplan of spellboosting.
>>531225948 Alright I did now
>>531329162she can heal me for 4 anytime
>>531330686Rune is going to be tier 0 with an 80%+ winrate against every other deck in the meta. Set 2 completely removes all weaknesses rune had, making it virtually undefeatable short of gigabricking.
>>531330683She is popular though. Been rising a lot this past week. Even parachan turned to running her.
>>531329389>The bot's roughly as good as an AA Sapphire player.No fucking way most players are more retarded than the retarded AI in this game
>>531330640It's not a bad idea, in reality it doesn't really matter what you pull on because you'll get vials and if you're missing set 1 cards it's not like decks are going to stop using most of them. So just pull on whichever has the leaders that interest you more.
>>531330813>Rune is going to be tier 0 with an 80%+ winrate against every other deck in the meta.>undefeatable short of gigabricking.I have no idea what's going to happen.
HOWEVER, this post seems like prime material for screenshotting and laughing later.
>>531330813I am still gonna drop it for the best alternative, Spellboost is so fucking shit to play
>>531328120I play mummy, I evo mummy
I play this on mummy
I go face
simple as
yooo I got early access to the new expac!
Uhh EudiePlappers bwos did our leader quit/banned?
>>531330672Several decks don't play a lot of unconditional removal/bane
Dragon has nothing, Forest only has lily (+ maybe olivia can be strong enough), Rune relies on massive william/storm blasts
>>531330813You retards really think Owen is a legendary and Norman will be auto include 3x in spellboost lmao
>>531331157can't be kaleido'd obviously
>>531330990I predict that the ONLY thing Rune will have is a good matchup against the real tier 1 deck Ward Haven
and possibly other decks making adjustments to also combat Ward Haven will lead to Rune having a better time against them as well
>>531329113>muh netdecksOpinion discarded.
>>531331273Rune is going to get fucked by ward haven bro
>>531330813Just jump into rune yourself too bro, i'm getting real tired of your screeching every day
>>531330813Holy shit you need to get a grip
I know sword players are retarded but this is not normal behavior
>>531331325Very nice, anon. Glad to have helped.
the rarest Lloyd you'll ever see
I see the rune defence force all assembled here today.
>>531331476Take your meds already. You guys have been seething about Rune all day.
>2-2 in A finals after geting the usual high rolls from SKILLED rune and forest players
>got this garbage
What would I have gotten in B?
>>531331120Most of what I face is portal, they have silvias up their assholes, puppet assassin, orchis, bullets... But yeah, 2 days is a small pool to measure, especially since I haven't been playing all day or anything.
The match prior to that was a mirror and he took down a 24 conductor with a 15 blast and a 10 evo'd blade destroyer. I won the match and I do consider this an indirect win for conductor, that's an evo, an unbricked blaze and a turbo blast he had to waste.
Which decks are featured as the gp winners? Is it random?
>>531331569Bold of you to assume it's more than 1 person
>>531331476Bro, don't get mental illness from digital card game of all things. At this rate, it'll be too late when set 3 drops and spellboost got their legend again
>>531331610handpicked by KMR himself
>>531331569>a cancerous combo deck that is the devs' pet deck so they give it extremely overpowered cards compared to other craftsGee, I wonder why people wouldn't like it.
>>5313315973 wins in B(against literal d through b rank topaz and ruby players) gave 3 card packs, a random legendary, and the same sleeves as group a.
>>531331826>extremely overpowered cards compared to other crafts>Isn't even the best deck in the formatYou are mentally ill.
>>531331569all decade*
FUCK RUNE
Next set will be my test. If it's as bad again I will quit and play something else.
Anyone know if Wuthering Waves is good? I missed the train on that.
>>531331569And I will keep doing it. Completely effortless. Get cancer Runenigger, btw.
Wallet haven will be S tier trust the plan
>>531331683If they still seethes everyday when set 3 drops, they'll officially be /svg/ resident schizo
Most schizo starts as normal shitposters you know
>>531331919KYS, rune downplayer.
>>531331569>>531331919kill yourself runenigger
>>531331941It seems right up your alley go play it
I want to apologize to all those who I treated horribly while climbing masters. I was stressed and in verge of tilting, but that doesn't excuse my unsportsmanlike behavior.
I am sorry.
set 2 is the smallest set so its better for spamming pulls
>>531331943She'll see play, but not this set.
>>531332054but I want orchis (twice)
>>531332054PROS
>smaller so vial farming is viable>all three leaders are cute girlsCONS
>90% of the legendaries are bricks>could just craft the few good cards from the deck and just save
>>531327359 (OP)I'm collecting a list of takes /svg/ is making for the next expansion so far its
>Abyss will be shit, both their leggos are shit>Spellboost rune will remain t1 because of 3pp gold>8pp Earthrune legendary is 8pp do nothing>Sword is DOA, Yurius is shit>Ward Haven will be T1>Roach and by extension forest is fucking dead>Fennie and dragon is shit because it's a 8pp do nothing>Artifact portal T1 because of Karula>Laura is a shit card>3pp board clear for rune is nu-william>Reina is a 7pp do nothing>6pp Earth rite leggo will be used in spellboost>Abyss bronze and silvers are the only cards able to make abyss T1
>>531330307Meanwhile in SVE
>BP11pp 2/2 F:If Sanguine is active give this follower +1/+1
2pp 3/2 F:If Sanguine is active give this follower +1/+1 and Rush.
4pp 5/5 F:if Sanguine is active give this follower Storm
6pp 6/6 If Sanguine is active this costs 1pp less. Necrocharge 10: This costs 1pp less. Engange: Destroy an enemy follower.
>BP23pp 3/4 F:If Sanguine is active recover 3lp to your leader and draw a card.
2pp 2/2 At the start of your end phase if Sanguine is active draw a card then discard a card
And of course BP5 gave us this which I'm now suspecting will be turbo nerfed in Set 3 because we haven't gotten a single fucking Sanguine/Wrath or Vengeance payoff.
>>531332048you owe me sex for all the abuse, only then will i forgive you.
>>531332054Set 1 has Orchis and Albert
>>531332030It's not even the best deck in the format. I don't think I have ever seen someone get this butthurt about a deck that isn't even the best.
I guess it's because shadoba is f2p but this general really attracts the most mentally ill 3rd worlders on all of /vg/.
>>531332048Eudie forgives you! Just keep in mind for the future that there is always another person on the other side of the screen. Have fun and keep it casual! Maybe you will make a friend. :)
>>531331943She should have just been a 4pp 4/3 storm with a downside fanfare like lose 2-3 hp or whatever. Then she'd be a really good reanimate target, which would alleviate a lot of concerns about the Blood and Shadow merger, as she'd play to the strengths of both.
Right now, she feels absolutely fucking awful to reanimate, which just emphasises how the merger of Blood and Shadow was an absolute and utter failure.
>>531332054uhhh the average vial you get don't change though
if you want to vial maxxing, just do it on the set with your favorite leader tickets
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Holy shit bros. I was expecting a 0-2.
I managed to win against 3 portalcraft somehow.
>>531332048no reason to stress bro, you literally can't lose points.
>>531330640If you want any of the leaders or full arts keep spending your rupies on Legends packs until you get it. Every free pack we get from tomorrow until Set 3 will be Infinity packs and there's only 77 cards so you'll likely fill that one up too!
Am I just particularly unlucky or is rune prone to bricking more than other classes?
I know it sounds weird it has draw and everything, but I don't remember bricking this often when I played roach, or midrange sword, or midrange abyss, or puppets. Those are literally all the other decks I've ever played. None of them do I remember bricking as much as I brick with rune. Not even one. And trust me I remember every single fucking match I lost due to not drawing roach.
why do people play aggro sword now instead of midrange
how is taking out a 1/3 that spawns board of taunts and amelia a good move?
>>531332317>4pp 4/3 storm with a downside fanfare like lose 2-3 hp or whateverThat would have single-handedly been enough to make most Abyss decks run 3x Juggler.
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>>531327829Give him back!
>>531330859Mirror match it with one of your decks and see.
>>531332602> roach, or midrange sword, or midrange abyss, or puppetsWhops for got to add face dragon to that list. Also played that deck and also didn't brick as often.
in the most boring portal mirror topdeck war waiting for orchis of all time it's gay
>>531330367Always has been.
>>531332680>how is taking out a 1/3 that spawns board of taunts and amelia a good move?hitting face faster and winning before late game decks rape you.
aggro is dead in 2 days btw.
>>531330859The AI is not particularly retarded for simple straightforward decks like say any sword. Add to that the fact it has VERY suspicious draw rng that makes you wonder if it's not picking exactly what it wants to draw and it can often be harder to face than most master diamond matches.
>>531332689and now that same card bricks juggler making it even worse than it already is
Me when the new runecraft leggo isnโt spellboost
>>531333076Yeah, their design team feels really fucking retarded.
>>531332602Rune has a lot of high cost combo pieces that it needs to get down with lower cost cards. There's 3 separate brick conditions
>don't draw early game cards>don't draw early dclimb vs midrange of slower decks, this is death in the mirror in particular>don't draw satan by turn 10 (also death in the mirror)It's not necessarily Rune only, something like Puppet basically needs 2 Orchis in hand and can also brick on their early game and lose but Rune is unique in that drawing some of your best cards late has them be literal bricks because you top deck a 18 cost cast, a 10 cost card, or a 7pp 3/3 rush. Or a 6pp 5/5 do nothing if William didn't get boosted.
>>531332680kills tumors and portards faster
So there wasn't a season 0?
>>531333007>suspicious draw rngIt's not draw rng. It's hand warping. The AI doesn't have a hand in the traditional sense. Basically picture an AI holding 5 cards to have 5 blank cards. It can play any of them as any remaining card in the deck.
>>531333007i gave the AI my aggro sword deck and it always goes 2nd and just rapes me.
>>531332861i've been waiting on one of two orchis for ages now, now 10 cards in my deck 8 in my oppponent's
>>531332680Aggro is about winning, not fun
>3pp spread damage across the entire board
>6pp deal damage to the entire board
according to cygames, a 5/5 body and better effect is worth an extra 3pp
>only played Rune since WB launch
>Exhausted my brainpower from playing in Grand Prix
>Decide to do Ranked match dailies on face dragon instead
>It's literally free wins no matter what play you make
So this is the game you faggots have been playing the whole time, huh? Just summon Otohime every single turn and the opponent can do nothing about it? And you have the gall to complain about Rune? Pathetic.
Huh some archetypes got clearly more representation than others
>>531333442I had a retarded match vs puppets the other day where all of my cerbs, olivias, medusas, and satan were my bottom 10 cards and his orchis/liams were right at the start of his bottom 15.
>>531333442These are the most fun type of matches imo
>>531329989>>531330367>>531332943For the average player, or even the average player in this thread, group A is a bit of a trap but I can live with missing out on a legendary for the chance at getting a special title as well as guaranteeing that I get the sleeves.
If we actually had one try a day at the finals then sure, group B would be preferable for almost anyone, but if it's truly a one and done deal like people are saying, even with the most favorable odds, group B seems like too much of a gamble. I rather have the guarantee of group A most of the time.
>>531333294where do i find these news?
>>531333442turn 21
dumb bitch ruby couldn't find orchis but at least she found lethal
>>531333709normally i'd agree but my internet was shit for like 7 hours so i'm only getting to do my four ranked wins for dailies now
>>531333656>keyword without a central purpose = archetypelmao, none of those abyss categories are deck archetypes
>>531333242Yeah but I come over here and fags are typing shit like "rune bricks 1% as often as others" like some dude literally wrote in the last thread.
My personal experience has been that I brick MORE than others. Not less.
>>531333442How is that even possible?
>>531332602>Rune>Bricking>Literally half the deck draws cardsYou rolled the iq dice and lost
>>531333656Wow, look at the correlation between having coherrent archetypes and having competitive decks. Who would have thunk it. Maybe they should have released a complete fucking launch set.
>>531333934Yes that's abyss in a nutshell maybe some day they get enough cards it becomes central enough
>>531333613good luck because you have absolutely no way to win
>>531333656Not even sword flood runs Ernesta, too much of a brick most of the time
>>531334040>>531334023Case in point. This general is kind of garbage isn't it?
>>531332220>Shes having hardcore yuri with angelsNANI?
>>531333656What an awful categorization. For example, why are storm dragon and intimidate dragon separate? Some of those cards get played in only pure ramp, while others only get played in pure aggro.
>>531334131they had a second orchis and sevo'd her so i died lmao. was not expecting them to stall as hard as they did
>>531333794In Group B I went 3-1. The first match I lost, it was a mirror where I bricked very hard, my other 2 were low ranked swordbabs(one was using way of the maid) and the last was ramp dragon. In general, the pool of players in Group B is going to be a lot worse. If you don't care about cosmetics then Group B is generally better because you get more card packs on average and you have the chance at a legendary. The best example is that at 0 wins, you at least get a card pack in group B. Group A only gets the sleeves and if you don't care about the character on it, those are worthless.
>>531333656>roach elf>not combo elf>twinkle, lilly and brush not inStop
>>531334190You have 40 cards in your deck
20 of them draw other cards
The rest are board clears and your wincons
You cannot brick unless you keep doing retarded mulligans
>>531334291because that guy put tought into his list while you shitpost the whole day
>>531334291I'm only putting cards that actually ramp into ramp
>>531334190Don't worry, this guy
>>531334040 thinks every time he beats rune player is because of pure skill, not because their hand is nothing but dclimbs and destroyers.
>>531334190>This general is kind of garbage isn't it?Just don't reply to the obvious shitpost.
>Lose first game against Sword
>Sure whatever
>Second game vs Forest
>Draw Cerberus a turn late, already a bad sign
>Try to play her next turn
>Fucking breaker trips, disconnecting me
>Try to reconnect to game on my phone
>My turn ended and the ghosts vanished
>See him beginning to do Roach bullshit because I only have 12 life left after he roached me the previous turn
>Close game
I expected my GP run to be a failure anyway. Honestly I wouldn't have won that game regardless.
>>531332602i legit cannot recommend Rune for ranked because trying to climb ranks with it can really be shit below AA+ Master
As soon as you hit Sapphire in AA you cannot already play Rune in ranked because you start facing decks that rapes you too often
Ruby and below you are masochist for playing Rune and get farmed by every aggro deck camping it
>>531334574>Rune>RapedJust play the 3 cards that heal for 4 and dclimb
>>531334190Yeah. I think it's because shadoba is f2p. That always attracts the biggest schizos on 4chan.
>>531334393Which is just stupid because ramp support would include the cards you are ramping to. This should be obvious.
>>531332740its really bad at artifact
>>531334346Combo elf would mean the entire craft
>>531334574Stop being bad
>things abyss needs to do if they want to draw 2: call your friend on a visit and rip their soul out, crucify yourself on the cross, go visit overpriced whorehouse and get STD
>>531334023They don't play Rune and they forget the matches where Rune bricks and they win on turn 5 or 6. But the matches where Rune high rolls stand out in their memory. Spellboost is a very strong deck but it's often not as easy to pilot as /svg/ will have you believe where Rune always has double anne into double kuon with a bunch of destroyers dropping. Sometimes it is like that though and it is as straightforward as Sword.
>BWEEEEH RUNE IS SO WEAK
did i d-shift into a different dimension?
I haven't seen anyone itt flexible their 5-0 Group A title, is it really that rare?
>>531334818Bro just drop the cutie with draw 2 fanfare
Runegawd btw
>>531334818>conveniently forgetting the 3pp neutral spell?
>>531334482nvm we win those
>>531334807play the game retard
kill all runeniggers
fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>531334672I'd be fine separating cards that lamp and cards that you play after you lamp shrugs. The more actual lamp the more you can consistently play what you lamped for
>>531333442Noah should +1 all future puppets
>>531327829I've played Dirt this expansion and people wildly overestimate how hard it is to hoard sigils. You regularly finish the game with a huge surplus.
The legendaries answer the two biggest issues in the deck, card draw and a wincon. That said I'm still not sure it'll be good in the expansion because puppets and ward haven both look like big issues for it.
Let me drop my 1pp draw 2 heal 2 spell that also deals 2 damage to your table for fun
>>531334937nah, the RDF are always here for a few hours everyday
>>531332317The existence of Ghost Juggler is already limiting design space
>>531335009>pay your month's salary to have a day of do nothing
>>531332602It does
You have to learn how to properly mulligan in this deck and not be too greedy
Rune is
>not popular in tournaments
>not at the top of master ladder
>does not have the highest winstreak
>isn't even the most played despite according to /svg/ it's nearly impossible to beat and has zero weaknesses
ok
>>531335089the new draw legendary with pascals card is probably really strong on turn 8. it makes 2 6/6 wards with barrier and leaves behind a 16/16.
>>531335252doesn't have to be good to be cancer
So are we seeing all the cards tomorrow?
won 2 GP matches before losing to 2 runeniggers
fuck you niggers
>>531335252Don't let 1 or 2 schizos' rambling influence you
90% of the anti-rune shitposts are obviously made by the same 2 people it's pretty obvious and the same posting style each time
1-2
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I was finals fodder...
>>531335252This is because roach is the only deck with better matchups than rune, rune is a 10 leg deck while roach is all golds and they have less than 2 days before they have a common unwinnable matchup
>>531335375now that's some real kung fu
>>531335252>getting the biggest buffs in the expansion
>>531335375Top seems more than bottom considering they have to make the artifacts too. While bottom is just braindead spam ramp and removal.
>>531335407https://poal.me/ze0ced
prove it
>>531335446i don't think ward haven is unwinnable, roach is already clearing fuck huge wards and haven will probably board lock itself a bit with amulets so roach can just sit back and draw/get pp for a couple of turns without worrying about lethal if haven can't drop jeanne.
>>531334831>>531335252>but low rollsWith 3x owen and cutting miranda rune will always have annegrea, kuon, and satan on curve going second or 1 behind curve going first
>>531335049Come and fuck me, you wont!
>>531335273I don't believe in the gold. I know I said surplus but it's like 5-8, not 10. I'd much rather burn big chunks on Lilianthem, she only needs 4 up on 8 to be impossible to remove for most decks.
>>531335661The wards its killing don't have aura
>>531335660Really makes you think
>>531335235>You have to learn how to properly mulligan in this deckI don't think it's a mulligan thing. Parachan leaves a destroyer on his hand and draws an early game. Anon might leave destroyer on his hand and draw 2 more destroyers and 2 dclimbs followed by a cocytus.
>>531335375>Top seems more than bottom considering they have to make the artifacts tooLOL. LMAO. The only thing needed for alloutte to assemble the artifact is for you to play ANYTHING during the previous few turns.
Also
>ArtifactsYou're assembling ONE artifact my dude. You never actually risk the finished product.
>>531332206you forgot the most important take: this expansion is going to kill the game (which is incorrect, the game is already dead)
>>531335252It's the most expensive deck, extremelly boring to play unless you're obsessed with combo, and it's only bad MU is the cheapest deck that the top players and streamers adopted because it makes for better content.
If you like playing it you gotta accept you're the bully everyone else hates playing with and own it.
>>531335680>play owen>evolve owen on 4>get 2 more owens>out of evolves when you get to play anne on 6
>>531335659>considering they have to make the artifactsdamn, I had to play a few 1/1, 2/2, and 2/3 to help protect me while I set up.
And it is STILL more than spamming ramp cards and a few removals.
Says a lot doesn't it? It's funny how people diminish things from decks they don't like and try to boost things from decks they do when literally all dragon was doing early in that pic was using a 3pp card, I even added removal too.
Holding hands with Edelweiss
>>531335252>All falseClassic runedownplayer
>>531335891I am obsessed with gambling
>>531336045>Upplaying artifactsLowest win rate currently
>>531335375dont forget to upvote
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1m0cla2/cygames_doesnt_playtest_their_own_game/
>>531336160no bros wtf...
>ramp
>more skillful than ANYTHING
lmeow
>>531336160sv1 barely ever broke 20k
>>531335891? it's the most fun deck because every game is drastically different with the random spell costs and dshifting into random hands that you have to figure out how to use.
>>531336160we really need a new shadoba anime to save us.
Counterpoint: Rune is fun, unlike your piss baby board control deck, meant for Hearthstone-brained niggers, spics and seamonkies.
>>531336282it's because nips didnt have to use STEAM back then, retard
>>53133616043k playing
SV1 peak was liek 22k
Dead game
>>531336160I don't blame them I'm quitting too because I'm tired of fighting rune and roach
>>531336365> Rune is funOnly when spellboost plays midrange and dirt plays aggro burn
Right now Dirt is underground and Spellboost is DShift royal gambling shit
>>531336325>every game is drastically different>grea>grea>kuon>kuon>satan>dshift game over
anyone else scared that the next set will kill the playerbase
im so scared that haven will ruin and slow the meta so much that the playerbase will quit and turn to another game like hearthestone, pokemon pocket, or even mtg
like so scared rn
>>531336409I went 3/2, but 2nd loss was slightly irritating because I knew I guaranteed lethal in 3 turns but went for the greedy play instead and got punished for it
>>531335252Rune is annoying sometimes, but Portal and Haven are my absolute worst match-ups. Fuck robots, puppets, birds, and ESPECIALLY priests.
>>531336325Prove you play the game right now.
>>531336187of course it's a r*ddit post, probably still crying about Orchis over there
>Brick brick brick
I'm tired, bros
>>531336535Oh please, people say this shit every expact, get a grip
>>531336365>piss baby board control deck, meant for Hearthstone-brained niggers, spics and seamonkies.That's just rune though?
>>531336523Literally this I'm so tired of rune
>>531336356We do but it needs to be based on this game's format. It's going to be doa if they do their own thing again or try to tie it up with the physical card game nobody plays
>>531336365Rune literally is a piss baby board control deck, have some self awareness you shameless fuck
>DUDE THIS CRAFT WILL BE UNPLAYABLE DOGSHIT
>DUDE NOBODY WILL BE PLAYING THAT CRAFT
Can't wait to lose every game to it because Tananka is trying something new so Cy bricks tf out of my hand.
Is there even matchmaking in Grandprix?
I AM THE GRANDPRIX CHAMPION I LOVE HUOHUO AND HYACINE AND FUUKA YAMAGISHI MY WIVES
>>531336523yeah I hate facing rune because that's how it feels to be in the other side, when you play rune every game feels different even though playing these is your only goal but reaching there feels fresh every game as the rune player so I enjoy using the deck myself
>>531336680imagine anime eudie...
>>531336592>fuck robotsGladly
>>531336741Yes! With other players in Grand Prix!
>>531336848im imagining it right now
Had a fucking match where rune player thinks until 1 sec before times up and what did he drop? Fucking Anne and Grea, why the fuck he's taking so long to think at 5pp?
>>531336937he's roping because tumors are subhuman
ok
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>>531336535Pokemon isn't an actual card game, nobody with any self respect plays that shit, it has zero decision making.
Hearthstone is irrelevant in 2025, nobody cares anymore.
MTG is the only real competition but they are kinda too busy killing their own game for the sake of profit to be a serious competitor currently.
I guess there is yugioh as well but that is just auto play shit with zero fun value or decision making.
>>531336937hes watching anime while you seethe
>>531336796>loves Fofo>runesissychecks out
>>531336796basedbasedbasedbasedbased
>>531336741not really, but getting to group A in round 2 and 3 filtered out all the super low RP players
>>531336796>runenigger>group byikes
So the grand prix finals are really one try not once a day?
I really think the only reason I managed to perform as well as I did was because I was pretty calm thinking I have 2 more chances even if I lose so I managed to fool the desire detector.
>>531336937>match where someone from X craft ropes to 1 second before dropping (anything)OMG WTF
THERE'S NO LOBBY TOURNEY THIS WEEKEND
WHERE ARE MY GIBS????
>>531337332Itโs Tuesday
>>531337309brainless runetumor
>>531337367look at the lobby tourney schedule
>>531337264i mean group a was full of tryhard forest players, it makes sense they sent rune players to b.
>>531337332Anon, I know you're a NEET but at least keep an eye on the calendar.
>>531337332Nigga the new pack releases on thursday. You'll be swimming in gibs at the weekend. New deck. New events. 10 packs for free. New BP. Etocetora etocetora
>>531337419Theyโre hiding it because the icon is from the new set it was there when I played on Sunday with a question mark
>>531336937clearly roping you on purpose lol
>>531336365I don't think Draw-Go gambling is fun bro sorry
healing is probably the most unfun mechanic to play against, more than board clears, more than wards, more than banishes, more than
>>531337569New bingo. New raffle. Etocetora etocetora
>no rodeo sleeves? guess I have to speak to you veeeery sloooowly
So, what i am supposed to remove to make space for owen and the new 2pp spell?
So what's the source of picrel from yesterday's thread?
>>531336325>tumors really believe thislmao
Really the deck for 80 IQ subhumans that they play so they can feel that they are good at something
Runebros... I don't want the new expac to come... We were comfortably sitting on tier 2... Now we will swim with the abyss shitters...
>>531337054>I guess there is yugioh as well but that is just auto play shit with zero fun value or decision makinglol
>>531337712That's obviously an AI pic
>>531337534>>531337441it says the 26th you retards
>>531336592The Haven matchup isn't that bad man. This isn't Darkness Evolved.
>>531337712Its clearly slop anon.
Grand prix is way too much effort for the rewards you get
>>531337648I love proofs of being the og like these
I'll give it an hour or so for new decks to his SV wins. It should be some easy farming for a bit using a nip deck while everyone else experiments with shit.
>>531337718So what's the most fun deck in your opinion?
Consider pic. What do you play?
I already won the match by the way.
What deck should I make in the new set?
Am trans btw if that matters :3
>>531337769with proper haven it's a face race instead of stallfest
>>531337897you burn through any kuons yet nigga?
>>531337879Any deck that requires more than 80 IQ to play
>>531337897depends, did OP shift already? do I still have 2 kuons in my deck ?
>>531337897Satan, you can DClimb into lethal next turn if he doesn't kill you first.
I have a question will I be able to get the Anne and Grea sleeves again or are they gone for good from the shop? I would pay $5 for them but not $80 for 5 bundles to get them.
>>531336365>Rune is funIt is the deck with most dopamine for sure.
It feels like an ADHD version of the blue/white decks in mtg.
You just have access to every tool ever with no drawbacks while other decks have tradeoffs. Meaning, highest overall card quality as well.
You are also a low variance deck because your deck cycles so much as part of its core gameplan.
Portal is fairly similar in this regard.
Those two carfts just don't seem to have a defined drawback or weakness as far as I can tell so they are fun to play.
Most other crafts are limited by their supposed identity.
Haven has the potential to be the third as it also has a wide variety of high value things that are under it's umbrella.
>>531337897Kuon shift since theyre not 0
in case sarefa anon is here, here's more fanart for you
>>531337897These are the 'difficult choices' runeniggers are always bragging about?
>>531337678You wait for the pro to make the deck
Just know the PRO isn't even planning at the moment to have 3 Owens in despite how OP is according to /svg/ experts
then it's 1x of the new spell and MAYBE, one Norman
>>531337754>>531337770>>531337783Damn, they're getting really good nowadays huh....
>>531338050Feel like roach is the only deck for that since you have to math shit out.
>>531338039>>5313380542 kuons in my deck that was the first one I drew all match
OP didn't dclimb, still has +1pp
>>531337915rune, portal, or haven
>>531338072They're gone, both the 10-step crystal pull rewards and tournament rewards are limited.
Was temp hp ever printed in the old game?
>>531338210Yea but also the pic you posted looks bad even for slop
>>531338181This looks like a clown list desu.
>>531338174emerald player detected
so I just finished all 50 ranked wins achievements on steam
here's what I found out after playing each deck semi extensively
Most consistent deck: storm haven
this deck got me to sapphire and kept me there for the remainder of my wins, from which I quickly dropped out once I switched decks
Easiest to play: sword
no surprises there
Hardest to play: forest
no surprises there either
Most fun: lamp dragon
I refused to play face dragon because face dragon is a joke deck, I found ramp really fun to play, feels like playing an underdog story arc in an anime every match
highest winrate: other than haven, it was puppet portal
it's very, very powerful and easy to use, and highly favored in the meta. noah, orchis and liam solve 99% of your provlems
lowest winrate: rune
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but rune just doesn't click with me, it's supposed to be an autopilot deck but I struggled VERY HARD to win with it, despite netdecking and copying the playstyle of everyone I saw
>>531338240I gotta send it can't let him get to the next turn
>>531337897Kuon,Dclimb and hope for the best
>>531338375Yes, rune players drop to emerald as soon as they play something else.
>turn 4 grea
>Turn 5 grea
>Turn 6 grea
>Turn 7 kuon
>Turn 8 kuon
>Turn 9 kuon
>Turn 10 satan dimension into anything into win
What a fun interactive experience
>>531338358the neutrals are placeholders you dumbshit
2 Owen
1 3pp spell aoe
1 Norman/Conductor
With ward haven being realistic 3 William are absolute required
>>531338181>Mammoth>Lens >GuildThis guy took some crack this morning clearly
>>531338240Kuon climb for sure then.
>>531338240You canโt make a judgement on that you have to dclimb because he has more options to summon the 6 and 5 satan guy after his climb for 16 damage or kuon kill you. Late game rune is always rng
>>531337737I played that shit for a while and it's unfortunately true.
Decks live and die by their archetype and how much support they get. No real unique deck crafting or anything of that sort, maybe one or two tech options at best.
And every archetype is basically played one very specific way with some very specific chains you basically always follow.
And going turn 2 and having to watch your opponent play solitaire for 5 minutes straight is the literal opposite of fun.
A card game that basically is determined in the first two turns is never going to be fun. The only reason people play master duel is nostalgia. Yugioh as a card game works much better as a single player experience like those Nintendo DS world tournament games rather than anything actually competitive.
>>531338503*blocks your path*
>>531338392Rune is the thinkin' mans deck. All the seething is from sword and abyss players who like to whine but not disclose what they're playing cause they know It's an actual braindead deck.
>>531338396Say you send kuon then dclimb and get another kuon. That's still 19 damage only. He's seeing next turn.
>>531337897kuon and GAMBLE BABY GAMBLE
>>531338392>Most consistent deck: storm havenStopped reading there. That's bullshit and you know it.
>>531327925>Abyss will be unplayable dogshit in set 2It's like that in set 1 so no difference.
Just realized Rodeo can spawn the new heal 10 amulet, probably still not good but it would be funny.
>>531338132Thank you, much appreciated
oh shit sisters they sell real rodeo sleeves on the cy shop but only for those who have obtained them
>>531338392>I don't know what I'm doing wrong but rune just doesn't click with meSame, one day i get to Diamond, the next i am back to topaz, and then back to diamond again
It's not fun or consistent on a ranked ladder
>>531338503>T1 coin Coachwoman >T2 Coachwoman>T3 Vase>T4 Pitslut>T5 Pitslut>Albert>Centaur/tentaclesVery interactive and fun
>>531338510Idk about the 3pp spell since it's split damage. 2 owen instead of 3 means you can't draw 2 owen out of evo but I think running 3 will still be fine until this happens to me. I was running 2 will but now it has to be 3
>>531338606nice 1/10 highroll
No but really why does Nio blow himself up when I evolve something?
>>531338647yeah I know I gotta find one of the other d climbs and hopefully a shiki or something in between
>>531338503>keep run's board clear the entire game>they're at 2 health>I'm at 20>they somehow shit out a 15/15 Kuon, 6 points worth of healing, D climb 3 times and throw down satan>I play rune becasue I'm tired of it>never once see any of those cards
>>531338746Wow another season of unplayable dogshit! Thanks cycuck!
>>531338841read the fucking story
>>531338756>Idk about the 3pp spell since it's split damageSince it's split and random pings it will at the very least eat a barriered wall an kill someone too possibly unless it's very wide with a fat body and dice roll most ping on it
>>531338746>Lesbian Sluts>Pure maiden>Dorky Slut>Angry Slut
>>531338746Love me Excella and Laura. Don't even care what they do.
>>531338746>5/3 storm for only 4pp >Also activates blood's class mechanicLiterally better Albert
>>531338210the future is AI
>>531338595>tried to get into yugioh>OP spends 20 minutes on their tunr>spends another 15 on my turn and shits out a board of 3500+ monsters>I can't even play a card
>>531338595First two turns of yugioh last longer than
4 rounds of an SV tournament. What you're describing is very similar to the Link to Covid era decks which is true for that era. Before Links the game was a lot more involved and post 2022 they decided to change the card design in a way that skill expression got rewarded again. But yeah 2017~2021 was exactly what you've described
>>531338746>3 cards that are worse than existing cards but slapped on higher rarity>1 card that's just two already existing cards slapped together except worse in 90% of the situations
i am here once again showing emerald gaming and asking what did i do wrong (besides keeping that sniper guy on the board for so long)
https://litter.catbox.moe/jcjfrijhxsxabm5j.mp4
>>531338843You're a real gambler aren't ya
>>531338920It's probably *random* the same way Glade and araragy
>>531338952>Dark-beige handSea Anon...
>>531338994Portal is a unwinnable matchup for sword
>but-No,stop
>>531338946in reality: 3/3 storm for 4 if you put reasonable effort into it, otherwise 1/3 or 2/3
>>531338392I got the 50 Rune wins with only 2 AnneGrea and 1 Kuon.
>>531338952It's honestly pretty impressive how far it's come, still easy to spot like 99% of the time but yeah
>>531338841His AI/personality whatever you call it can be in four of his robot body copies at once, and he mass-produces them whenever one is destroyed. He's not a combat unit, so he can just suicide bomb his bodies into people. Dreizehn just blows up his production factory when he's down to one body and he decides to die fighting instead of surrender.
>>531338746The funny part of charon is that her reanimate 1 cost will never come into affect until cerberus has been played
>>531338746If you think about it, Dork general is half a Cerb. Cerb gives you 2 damage per follower, Dork gives you 1 damage per follower.
>>531339003That's the matchup first to 10pp has to win because if you dont the other lad will
>>531338920It's distributed damage, which means it will start damaging from the oldest unit first.
>>531339184and I got my 50 abyss wins first with no cerberus or medusa
but that was back in D and C rank, notice how I didnt mention abyss? that's because I was beating noobs with shit like fighter and mammoth
Abyssniggers will downplay this.
>>531338872You have to be the protagonist to play Rune.
>6 cost portal card
>summon beta with ward and canโt be destroyed by effects plus a body that can attack twice that has to go or you lose
>6 cost abyss card
>ohhhhh you summon 2 3/3 they come back though look at the spooky ghouls are you scared yet ooooooooo
>>531339004So not random at all? Are we really doing this again?
>>531339204He's dead? Laaame.
>>531338994Go face whenever possible. You cleared some low level shit that could have stayed on the board for a few more turns. You need to have portal close to lethal by the time they bring out Orchis. There's very few decks that can survive the 2x Orchis/Gundam. Sword is not one of them.
>>531339334>6pp do LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHINGkarula rapes this
>>531339334>turn 6 do nothing>turn 7 remove 1 threat and hit 12 face leaving 1 wounded on board>this is supposed to be goodyou have never played abyss.
>>531339334Requires several turns of setup and perfect pulls but yea it can be good, but not as good now that everything has ward
>>531339334Is this poor man cerb? The fuck is this?
STOP SAYING "DO NOTHING" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY'RE CARDS YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO IF YOU'RE BEHIND
>>531339334They could already do that with Cerb. I guess they can send dogs to the face on the following turn instead now though.
>>531338994>turn 4Should've sniped their guy, keeping board presence while you'd be denying some from them. Would also force them to coin for Alouette on his turn 4 to answer you. Everything derailed foward from that play
>>531339630you are never behind against abyss
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>>531339391All of Dreizehn's brothers are dead already.
>>531339706I am behind Medusa alright.
I have come to realize the game is actually pretty decently balanced. Sure there are clear highs (Rune) and clear lows (Abyss). But knowing how to play against the best of the best can give you a decent chance with almost any deck. And even abyss in the right hands can be a serious competitor.
>>531338994way of the maid valse was fucking terrible
cut that card from your deck
Does your rank reset with new expansion?
havensisters...
https://x.com/eightzhuan/status/1945164778361790754
Does it happen to you too? I never had double Winged Statue on turn 4
I'm A2
>bricked against two face dragons
<fought 4 puppet portals, got assraped by 3 and last one i somehow outlasted
>lost a haven mirror because they drew into lapis and they were playing control
>Got stalled out a by rune long enough for them to get satan and the healed off all my damage by having two sagelights
>internet died out when my last game was against sword
>get demoted to emerald
finally.. where i belong
Where are the fucking titcow cards? Is this just loli central?
>>531339334>we have Gremory at home
>>531339158More damage is great no matter what.
>>531339974Master points reset entirely, rank doesn't.
Group drops by one unless you're in diamond in which case it drops to ruby.
>>531340040It's a combo that I rarely manage to do, I have more luck with ambush than 2 winged and 1 avian.
>>531339525nigga amulets are a trade of your own hp for massive payout later
if you played haven you'd understand
>>531340205in set 2 this board gets destroyed on turn 3
>>531339875This first expac will be the most balanced it will ever be, yes. And no, Abyss is better than Dragon and Haven by a lot
Uh so rune lategame is actually just gambling?
>>531339721God i want to impregnate factories of tetra so badly
>>531340315you will never be able to validate that claim since abyss will absent
>>531340403Rune's whole gameplan is gamba
>>531339464noted
>>531339683yeah when watching the replay i thought it was bad, tunnel visioned hard on the enhance
>>531339884good replacements?
>>531340403rune lategame is winning
would unironically make face dragon 10x better
>>531340403always has been
>>531340450welcome to the sleeve team sister
>>531340539I miss her, one of my favorite dragon arts from SV1
I went against 2 artifact portals and a rune that highrolled me with multiple blazes on turn 5 so I lost my group b games
>>531340539will this game reach yugioh levels where each card draws each other?
Sword is 100% favored against Haven, fuck retards who say otherwise
>>531340539>super good draw card would make a deck betterWow, dragon players are megaminds.
how is it that we got zero new aggressive cards to use vs rune, and instead got a bunch of midrange value cards that rune will rape?
>>531340716Brovski, your sarefa?
>>531340715SV1 is way worse than Yugioh in that department. Shadoba is basically "what if hearthstone had yugioh card design"
>>531340539Her dragon orbs are huge
>>5313408191 isnt gonna do shit
>>531340819>3/3 do nothinglol
>>531340745>He wants more aggroIgnored.
>>531340716lol barriers/wards you got there, would be a shame if they were all instantly cleared
>>531340907i either want more cards that can get under rune, or nerfs to rune, no deck has a good rune matchup besides forest.
I love having sex with terrible cards
How do I get over buyers remorse?
>>531340715Yes, just like SV1. The only question is when. My bet is that they'll give a few classes cards like that by Christmas.
>>531340885>heals sword early aggression>clears sword's entire career>leaves a ward behindThe meaning of "nothing" has really warped this past few weeks
>>531340716yeah as a sword player the only way haven beats me is if they draw 2-3 salefas
>>531332602it bricks all the time because you need to draw your big spellboost targets in the first couple turns or you can never use them
even if it has tons of draw, the draw order is important unlike other classes
so for the millionth time it's an rng gambling deck in every way and when you win with it you just got lucky and when you win against it you just got lucky
>>531341062>deals 0 damage to facedefinition of do nothing
>>531341028stop being poor
>>531341028What did you buy?
>>531341028you cant have buyers remorse if you dont spend money?
https://x.com/mura__sv/status/1944210166892965895
How is this okay?
>>531340716Who even says that? You spend all the time clearing boards with haven and eventually get killed by albert and that's if you even draw enough chalices and jeannes to clear the board.
>>531340819>NOOOOO!!!! HAVEN KILLED MY EARLY FOLLOWERS AND HEALED 3 AND WAS FORCED TO TRADE INTO MY ZIRCONIA FOR AN EMPTY BOARD WTF?!!?>oh well time to play my luminous mage, dogs, leto and amalia and amalia and amalia :)
>want to play sword next set because Yurius looks cool
Itโs owari
>>531339658>super evolve reina>deals 13 damage with the extra 1 from the chip>super evolve cerb next turn, deals 7 damage with the extra 1 from the chipgg boys, easy.
>>531341291fuck you. 10 hours of loading stupid twitter page for a gameplay video of some retard.
>>531341291>portal player's board is completely empty on turn 5well the retard didnt pressure forest at all so of course he lost
>>531341291How about instead of throwing random wards you actually setup a board that kills?
it's stupid that aether doesn't give wards rush
Haven can do pretty well against rune and uhhh, sword sometimes?
>>531341901haven can higroll and win or lowroll and die
I am pretty sure sword has more bodies to throw into the grinder than haven has wards
>>531341386>I drew perfect curve but my opponent didn't and he losesWhoa, so this is how a sword player thinks
>>531342081obviously but one ward clears five sword dudes on evo
>>531342081Yes, but haven can wipe your entire board using a single card in 3 or 4 different ways
>>531342254and how many times can sword keep doing that?
So ward haven is control the game early with your lions then play wilbert and aether and keep playing aether until your opponent runs out of cards to clear your field and you win
>>531342081Sword has very efficient removals for big threats(Samurai, Jeno) or even wide boards with cards like Amalia. If they get Cyclone Blade back then they'd tear through Haven's wards..
>17 damage and an army out of nowhere
balanced game blissard!
How shit are you to lose to haven as sword lmao
>>531342384Yeah, you control the game if you draw perfectly.
>>531342384The dream is Wilbert into Aether into Jeanne for board presence + clear.
>>531341512>die before cerb because you ignored their board on 6
>haven downniggers woke up
>>531342451despite popular belief, haven WANTS to lose wards.
>>531342472>Letting rune get to 10You deserved to lose.
>>531342472>wins>complainsyou are a literal crayon eater and this isn't even your first time pulling this shit
>>531342472Why are you crying you still won retard
>Go 1-2 against clown decks like Sword and Artifact
>You're out LOL
Yeah I'm done with this semen slurping shit game
>>531342604you legit mentally retarded if you lose to haven
>>531342656yes because that is somehow considered a brick for the rune player
how disgusting is that
>>531342472I fucking hate portalniggers
>>531342472>still wins because has the most broken card in the gamelol
Thoughts on buying a second account (atleast 2 leaders) to mess around on/farm low ranks? I kind of want to then again I could just hope to get another one on my main.
>>531342672>Runenigger pretending Rune can dielol, lmao
>>531342690I'm sorry to hear that. best wishes to you where ever you may go
>retards here inventing their fairy tale 3 turn setups that assume their opponents are braindead and are doing nothing
>>531342472>no satan+dclimb>no double kuonrune unironically bricked
>>531342472Bro your most honest, well-balanced and thoughtfully designed card in the whole set, Orchis, Newfound Heartโข?
>>531342750And here I thought rune mirrors and haven mirrors were retarded
This is a new low for CCGs
>>531342604>He gets farmed by HAVEN
>>531342875>EoSI dont think this is as good a idea as you think it is
Xpac goes live for NA on the 16th or morning of the 17th?
>>531342875Me when illya was meta so I used all my thingies on summer suzume to counter her
>>531342690>he didn't purposefully int to get into group B
>>531342750richard nixon would call this an anti-game
>>531342865abyssbabs do be doing that
>>531339334
A lot of people are hyping up Aether but she pulls from deck so if you draw too many 2 cost cards she will only summon 2 or 1 to the field and not 3. If you are able to clear her initial turn every subsequent Aether is significantly worse off
>>531339334ok but what do you do about haven's wards?
>>531340315The vast majority of card games are more imbalanced to start target than less
>>531343316i think arthur sword had that same issue, the arthurs would become much weaker after the first.
Why the fuck are there so many BMers suddenly? I had 3 opponents who skipped their turn for no reason when I bricked
Why didnโt they give puppet portal any good 5 drops? Iโm still forced to run that shitty golem that creates more with evolves.
>>531343391hmm no how about we make it multi-target instead
>>531343446what craft do you play
>>531343391>complaining about 1pp 2 damagelol
>>531342865Reminder to never craft a deck if theorycrafters cannot articulate a wincon other than "bro just get a 1 in 200 game highroll"
>>531338980>post 2022 they decided to change the card design in a way that skill expression got rewarded againThe only thing yugioh rewards is paying 300-500โฌ a month or two on the newest broken shit and learning pre-built linear combos unfortunately.
It's a lot less enjoyable than shadoba at its worst.
People blame Cygames and KMR for shit, but konami outright spits on the playerbase especially in the west.
>>531343472bronze/silvers will save us trust the plan
>>531343472we got Zwei
Roach won't exist as a primary wincon next expansion, so we dont have to worry about that
next expansion should be massive board verse/massive board wipe verse into crazy aggro finishers
will i get to pick 2 starter decks if i still havent picked my first?
>>531343446Boredom
BMers are extremely insecure just don't think about it
>turn 8
>opponent drops pic related and end turn
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>He is losing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=553KchwVYk8
https://files.catbox.moe/b1eb4g.mkv
Please tell me everything I did wrong, I'm tired of being a shitter. I only ever see Forest in tourneys and never get any practice against them.
Am I supposed to trade puppet for 1/1 on t2? Was it too crazy to leave the 5/5 up and try to race?
>>531343493>>531343538BURN IN HELL RUNE FAGGOT
>>531343809dragoniggers will downplay this
>>531339721The new shit is so inferior for each it's insulting.
>>531343809If this garbage ends up being playable/mid-tier I'll eat my fucking shoe
>>531343809>turn 8try turn 5 instead
>>531343627thats why you get so many bmers lmao
Rune is the least liked class to play against
>>531343809more like dragon drops this on turn 6
>>531343924That card is so bad like what are you going to do against like Ralmia summon this wait for next turn
I think i just played against the only dirt player in the game.
>Try to impregnate a portal girl
>she laughs at my futile endeavors
Bwos. . .
>>531343958No you won't but what you can actually do is lick a small bit of your own cum from your thumb. Deal?
>>531343809>doesn't affect hand>have to rely on topdecks
>>531343809I summon Wilbert
>>531344183I do that every other night
>>531344008Dragon drops this card eons before Ralmia comes out
I think that card is way better than what people think
Dragon just needs one more good ramp option and it's good
>>531343924it's only good if dragon gets a way to mass draw cards, preferably while discarding their current hand. wasn't there some aldos combo like that in sv1?
>>531343817>roach fag has 8 cards left
>>531344369your super evolved twilight drake?
>>531344369Fate hand was 2pp discard your hand draw same number
Do I get orchis homescreen if I redeem her ticket?
>>531343817he would have won if he hit face with otohime the turn before last
onononono......
Itโs a shame there is only one deck type per class compared that to the bazaar and hearthstone
>>531344624-gons worth playing
>>531344468that's altered fate
how long will our autistic game last?
>everyone else i know managed to get to sapphire and idamond with Haven this season
>have so massive fucking skill brain issues i got mogged out of ruby all the to way emerald by all the portals, swords, face and a few ramp dragons on my way down
>demotion match to emerald was with a portal player who kept spamming emotes at while i was fully bricked
There is no saving my retarded ass i'll just accept my fate in emerald and stay there
>>531344753someone will deck out.
>>531344624this card isn't good
>>531344624>draw 2 and healliterally better than rune's 3pp draw
>>531344791Source? Is it a man?
I am going to drop both of these fuckers on your head on the same turn and I am going to laugh
I actually think aggro abyss will be good next set like I know there is a lot of meme combos but the sheer quantity of them means youโll get one off. Then with good cards like Cerb Gravy and the snakes your opponent will get low pretty fast
>>531344791what deck are you using for haven? either your running a pretty suboptimal 1 with like zero jannus or you keep getting tilted and rage-conceding
>>531342935>new low for CCGshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nvc1OCWOEc&t=17100s
Chess Runecraft mirrors were a literal staring contest where passing was often the optimal play
I hit A0 today and have been getting shit on ever since.
I hope I don't fall out of Diamond before the expansion forces me back to Ruby.
>>531344369A crest drawing cards passively is also good
Since we're STILL fucking missing a 5 drop:
>random ass dude>shit/shit>Fanfare: scratch his ass>Evolve: Add Crest: draw a card, if you're in overflow, draw 2
>superevo effect: the worst dogshit you've ever seen
Yep, it's Abyss time.
>>531345060>Storm and reanimate (pp cheat) are dogshit?
>first player
>can't drop your bombs before second player due to coin
what the fuck were they thinking
>>531344821I think I win...?
>>531345060At least it's not haven where your sevo serves a single purpose of not destroying you follower when you cum chalice.
>>531343809Fennie are you ok?
Are you ok, Fennie?
this general gave me a fetish for cumming inside of robogirls while they make fun of you
fuck you guys
any doujin recommendations?
>>531345173its kind of a shame eudie went into portal even though she fits, some decks would have gotten way more value from her draw and evolve crest than portal
>>531345225>topazbro still thinks going second is betterlol
>>531343809Right now the only way I can see her being playable is one Draconic Strike discount into Draconic Berserker Sevo for stabilization.
>>531344904>only heals at 7pp
>>531345225now imagine the second player's perspective if coin didn't exist
>>531328867> Norman> ClimbingThose 2 words doesn't belong in the same sentence
>>531343904You're fucking crazy if you let Forest hit your face early and doesn't heal after that.
Assuming perfect hand, 10PP Forest can 20-0 you. Doesn't mean they need to wait until turn 10, they can use extra PP and Super Evo Carbuncle gives 3 PP, so playing Carbuncle actually gives them 1 PP surplus. For 1 less PP they usually lose 2 damage.
The only way to prevent them doing what they want is by pressuring them early, throw out multiple Wards with >4 HP, or have a Ward with Aura.
>>531344979Pretty sure its a pure skill issue on my end since everyone i showed the deck to said it was fine
>>531345383Never mind he got to pull griffon before me. Dog shit FAGGOT game.
>>531345482Wish she at least had a better stat line so you could contest towers. Lapis is already hard to establish in a deck that can blow up the board as she lands and with a much better stat line. I don't know how dragon could feasibly play Ho
>>531345395Do you mean Filene or Galmieux?
>>531345206>storm on another vanilla follower, use superevo to deal 9 to face while ignoring board at 10ppyep it's dogshit.
>reanimate 3 next turn do nothing since it doesn't have rush or storm not even get ward from the card that summoned it since it's long gone because enemy that didn't "do nothing" yep it's dogshit.
thank fuck roach is dead in 2 days
>>531344718Fuck i am going senile
Honestly abyss is better off rotting in the gutter forever. Nobody wants a cerb meta, it will be nearly as bad as wonderland blood.
>>531346052fuck off nigger
>>531345406bro... your aura wards?
>>531345787>pretending it can only be used on one specific target?
Why does Dreizehn dress like a whore
>>531345578Tigers NEEDS TO GO OUT
>>531346052They call me low
>>531345578The deck is fine, but it's still bottom tier deck. Just try playing more aggressively and try finishing games on turn 8 or turn 9.
>>531340403Rune at 10 pp is auto win
Only way Haven beats me is because I've forgotten some of their cards due to rarely facing them so I get surprised when they play some literal who that wins the game.
>>531346165Isn't she Eudie's sister or something? That would explain it. They're both turbowhores who get run through by everyone entering Shadowverse Park.
>>531344982i remember that fucking match
>won BIGLY
haven
portal
rune
sword
dragon
>lost BIGLY
forest
abyss
>>531328867>Satan Climb with NormanHe won't be used at all
Rune is going to set 2 with just having to craft 2 Owen and thats it
No, dirt still has no wincon, Norman is a step in right direction but the Anatema is a complete meme
>>531346383cock dick and balling
>>531345578I highly doubt you need 3 featherfalls, could take 2 out and slot in soulcure sister/maeve/rodeo instead
>>531346282It's funny how easily you can differentiate people who are just being turbo shitposters out of spite and people who are legit discussing things.
can i play pure artifacts next set or do i still have to run orch*s and p*ppets
>>531346162>best case scenario is dogshit>but what about the worse onesAnon... I'm running out of descriptors for how omega dogshit the other options are...
>>531346525orchis is still the most broken card in the game can't not play her
Official set 2 meta changes: (pic rel is last meta)
Tier 0:
> Artifact (1=>0)
Tier 1:
> Spellboost (1.5=>1)
> Ward Haven (new)
> Midrange Sword (2=>1)
Tier 1.5:
> Puppet (2=>1.5)
> Control Fairies (new)
Tier 2:
> Roach (1=>2)
> Aggro Sword (no changes)
> Abyss (no changes)
Tier 3:
> Face Dragon (no changes)
> Storm Haven (2=>3)
> Dirt (new)
Everything else is rogue.
Artifact niggers will downplay this in 3, 2, 1...
Bros if I switch from Rune to another class, am I going to become as bitter and jaded as you guys? When I outskill, outplay, outvalue, and control the board the whole game only for them to Satan d climb astaroth, am I going to start making posts in here calling them slurs? I just want to get along...
>>531346625Most broken card in the game currently is roach lmao
>>531346568Just let go of the blade bro lmao.
>>531344923>4pp and 5pp do nothingsoh no...
>>531346525You still have to run Orchis and you should probably still run the 2-drop puppeteer
>>531346656you didnt outanything if you let the rune get to turn 10
also you never played rune you fucking poser
>>531346525thats just like playing runecraft without anne & mary+kuon or forest without roaches
>>531344923remember when people said garyu was a op card day 1
>>531346679it's ok puppetbro no one cares if you play orchis but stop deflecting
>>531346780He is his deck is just dogshit for 2 set.
> ramp> no ramp card
>>531346498Please refer to the honest gameplay chart before downplaying rune or the people tired of it
>>531338503
>>531346780I still think he is
it's just that ramp is incomplete at the moment
If you can drop Garyu on turn fuckin 5 consistently it's be crazy
>>531346768how is playing spellboost without AG the same as playing artifact without puppets? they're two different archtypes compared to a spellboost card being in a spellboost deck.
>>531346780He is an OP card
>3pp
>Do nothing
How is it fair the dragon has to literally do nothing while runenigger gets to do something while also boosting
>>531346936>>531346909>>531346845not even top 5 8 cost card in game
>>531346643> 2pp do nothing> 6pp do nothing> tier 0
>>531333801https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/
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>Tojo sits at my battlespace table
>He's playing portal, slaps down his puppets with nothing on board
>4 turns in randomly just quits the game
>As soon as he's out of game he goes to another table
Tanaka had a tantrum I guess
>>531346972>3 cost>Draw 2>SpellboostxD
>>531346972because if you werent topaz, 1 extra pp next turn would be a massive deal to you because you'd know how to properly use it instead of wasting it like you do in 90% of your games
>>531346972I don't get why nerf oracle this badly
What's your excuse now rampkeks?
>>531346273>bottom tierwait what? i thought you guys were just shitposting about that, didnt think it was true.
I had been doing that a bit more but it feels like i get slapped/gotten more retarded whenever i try to not let games drag on
>>531346490i did get rodeo yesterday but do people use him at all? looks most haven players i see avoid him like the plague. but yeah, i can try out soulcure/meave as some extra insurance
>>531346972don't look up dragon oracle from the first game, you'll be pissed.
>>531347124petcrafts (rune) had their base cards buffed
non petcrafts (abyss, forest, dragon) had their base cards nerfed or unchanged
>>531347110>because if you werent topaz, 1 extra pp next turn would be a massive deal to youit isn't because my opponent still evolves before me
>>531346643Puppet will stay the same, it got far less than the good decks but the bad decks got even less.
>>531346808She's obviously good in Puppet but they're talking about Artifact where her effectiveness has a ceiling. Eventually they'll want to drop her for something more valuable for the Artifact wincon.
>>531346780He is actually a pretty good card, as with lot of Dragon cards.
The main problem is there are only 6(SIX) cards that can ramp you up in the game.
>>531345427Andojing
Take a look.
>>531347126>won in sapphire waow
demoted in the next hour
>>531347018Orchis
Amalia
Bayle
Ralmia
Cerberus
that's my top 5 right now for 8 costs
Ramp gets more support and Garyu is easily on there
>>531347126>>531347221if he can stay there after 5 games I'll kneel
>>531347031> auto x3> do nothingPeak Artinigger argument
>>531347327>>531347431can't demote if you don't play
>>531347126Wtf is wrong with Rowen's face
>>531347364cerberus over ralmia
ralmia is good but you cant just drop her
in suboptimal hands where you arent finding your artifact gen or had to play some raw strikers early shes gonna be way worse
Hear me out. A dragon card that boosts your PP in the NEXT MATCH.
>>531346643Based list desu
>>531347128main value i've seen from queueing into haven players is being able to ditch whatever shitty card that isnt relevant and immediately putting 3 amulets from the deck onto the board instead of drawing+playing them
>>531347364>no way where's kuo->realize he's 7 drop
>>531346643I wish i could see all these tier 0 artifacts because they all fucking die to any nigger running a face deck and thats 90% of players
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Abyss bros....
Why we have to suffer for the blood sins...
I fucking want to get rid of that brew so much but it's also so needed
>>531347745Kuon is carried by 7 cost, if she was 8 she wouldn't be anywhere near as good
>>531347770Try using your healing cards, d rank.
>>531347770i think artifact has the best matchup into aggro of any deck
>>531347781Who's suffering? I'm pretty optimistic
Is Garyu really even a ramp card?
>Ramp into him
>Can't SEVO
I guess if you can reliably drop him turn 6, he's just a better AG
>>531347126Holy shit he actually did it
>>531347679at least ralmia builds a board you have to answer
cerb does jack shit when dropped on nothing
Don't worry, dragoncucks. we'll reach a critical mass of ramp cards, then ramp will be meta for a set, before one ramp cards rotates out and it goes back to being shit.
That's how it goes in sv1, and each time it happens, it's more cancerous than spellboost since they don't balance 10pp neutrals around t5 10pp.
>>531347770Illiterate bro...
>>531347781>Shadownigger downplaying Eachtar and Soulsquasher
>>531347124I think their official statement was that it was very difficult to balance around but they couldn't nerf it was an evergreen basic so they moved it to 3pp to make adjustment easier
>>531347890The 6 cost healing card? The one that i can play 1 turn after im dead at turn 5?
>>531347679yeah good point
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Just one month in and I already can't wait for season 6 to introduce Rotation and throw Orchis out. I'm so tired of puppetfags always, ALWAYS having two of them ready for turn 8 and 9 (or 7 and 8 if they go second), and there's absolutely nothing you can do. It just kills the board and half your leader. I genuinely prefer playing vs Rune at this point. At least they have to get to turn 10.
I really hope there will be less Portal faggotry in season 2, but apparently it's looking grim.
>>531348021How about you just remove ramp shit which is always cancer in card games and just give them other fun mechanics
>>531348021But they also nerfed the draw?
>>531348014Wait did we get a functional Soulsquasher reprint?
>>531347709His Kung Fu transcends!
abyss card design be like
4pp 2/1
fanfare enhance (7) deal 5 damage to your leader
evolve add skeleton to your hand
super evolve summon skeleton instead and give it rush
>>531347973Was Ramp Dragon ever meta?
I only vaguely remember a deck that used Zell to OTK that got nerfed
>>531347128>I had been doing that a bit more but it feels like i get slapped/gotten more retarded whenever i try to not let games drag onThere's still stuff like knowing that you can usually leave your ambush guy against puppets and buff him, as they usually haven't got an answer to him. You can super evolve him and even use chalice then as he won't die. There's also combo where you leave your chalice on the board and the the next turn you sevo griffin and then use chalice for easy board clear and face damage.
But the best advice I can give is just go face because the longer the match goes the lower your chances are to win.
can't believe I got ratio'd by a bbc poster
>one cost targeable removal on par with reaper
>good aoe
>bane on fairy
roach only needs one of these to still be playable next expansion
first one might not be good against heaven, but it'll make sure that forest can rape Rune consistently
forest can only lose against Rune by not being able to kill 8/6 behind ward
>>531347770The thing about artifact is that it's actually pretty hard to play optimally but it's very available to start. When you see high diamond masters piloting it it becomes apparent how fucking busted it is very quickly
>>531347973Ramp at its peak relied mostly on neutral leggos.
We would need cards like Saha, Israfel, Lucifer, Bahamut, and Zeus back. Ramp is gonna be shit for a long time.
>>531347945It's the same as Sibyl back then, you also couldn't play her if you ramped early. You kinda want a balance in ramping of that makes sense, sometimes you have to play something else in the meantime.
>>531347945Kuon physically can't clear his board too
Too bad it's impossible to draw a single ramp card with how much KMR fucked us over
>>531348014There is objectively nothing wrong with Eachtar. He is just a cool midrange build a board guy.
>>531348087The 5pp artifact you can summon for free?
9 hours until maintenance
13 hours until the new set is here
>>531347857a t6 coined kuon often requires so many resources to clear. only haven and rune really have great answers.
>6 cost
>Heals 4
>Rune uses 6pp
>Heals 8
>Somehow sylvia is broken
>>531348283That's not right it's in the 17th
You abyssissies love killing yourselves don't ya
>>531348105She's the only card I really want to see nerfed
Give puppet better tools but quit stacking so much power into one card it's retarded. Puppet does NOTHING without orchis and pretty much instawins if it plays more than 1
Getting double orchis'd turns 7 and 8 got old real fast
>>531348202dragon was dropping nuSatan on t5 which was more cancerous than whatever rune is doing right now
>hehehehe I'm so smart I'll just pass my turn board empty so he doesn't have leth-ACK
>>531346643How did spellboost got better when it hardly got any new usable cards? Not memeing you, i am genuinely curious
Is Owen supposed to be super good?
>>531348202It was tier 1 in Starforged legends
>>531348087if you play alouette alpha on curve face dragon loses
if you play raw fortifier on curve face dragon just loses
>>531347945Even if let's say you drop him on turn 6 that's 5/5 + 4/5 Ward + 5/4 Rush that they need to clean up.
Thought lesbians are annoying? He's literally them but with 3 bodies.
>>531348275>The 5 pp heal me for 3 and dies next turn to a 1 cost spell that deals 16 damageAh yes my op healing gone just like that...
>>531348283there is a whole 24 hours to add there retard
>>531348480So rune is an aggro deck now?
1. Have you ever pressed the rematch button after a game?
2. Have you or your opponent ever accepted a rematch?
>>531348480theres no way you play artifact and struggle with aggro
>>531348226Im aware of that, dont worry. guess its just combination of me not being aggro enough + unlucky. I'll just keep forcing myself into the grinder then
probably should just take a break until the next set if the groups and ranks are being rolled back by one level
>>531348587I did accidentally
>>531348414miss boner..........
>>531348587Yes
Yes
I've never lost the runback.
>>531344982I miss that deck and the one with adamantine golem
>>531348587Yes but i only accept dragon and haven rematches there's no way in hell I'm willingly playing against the other crafts
Who is the hottest leader?
>>531348587I used to rematch people but I can't be fucking bothered these days cause the decks am playing aren't water tight
>>531348202Starforged ramp was top 1. Not quite tier 0 strong though
>>531348429Owen is an auto x3 and help with the biggest problem the deck is facing which is early game aggro. Even if the enemy kill him with a 3 damage spell, that's some PP not going into another follower to hit your face with. His mere existence buy you like 4 LP. Late game he help unbrick your DClimb if you have an evo point to spare.
Overall he is not alou 2.0 broken like what artifact got but he fills in what sb is missing.
The chaos flame is usable too.
>>531348587the first thing you should always do after a match is review your replay and identify all the suboptimal decisions you made
you cant do that if you rematch
>>531348429Rune is either not moving an inch or actually fall off
Not getting literally FUCK NOTHING is awful in a new set meta.
People meme about Dragon or Abyss getting nothing but Rune got 1 gold and nothing else (both legendary are unplayable since dirt has no real wincon or structure yet)
>>531348839Was there ever another tier 0 deck in SV1 after Bloodcancer got nerfed?
>tfw you evolve a card to make more stuff survive Glade
I like to think the forest player appreciates my brain power before opting to play Lily instead...
>cannon is good against everything
>except rune
>keep getting farmed by rune
it feels so bad
how do you beat rune on artifact if they open miranda wind blast
>>531348802Easily Dreizehn. The sword slut would be alright if her armor didn't look so retarded.
If non-standard leaders also count, Daria and Cerberus are hot too.
>>531348954if you count Alice decks, those
>8pp 4/4 do nothing
What's her name /svg/?
>>531348951Spellboost and portal arguably already have a complete deck it's fucking difficult to add anything new that isn't downright broken.
>>531349010I don't think you can beat rune as artifact unless they somehow brick
>>531348884>Owen is an auto x32x
Parachan placeholder deck has max 2x owens
>>531348884Fair, but deck space is kind of tight, gotta see what i will remove
>>531348951Thats what i assumed yet everyone here preaches as if spellboost got anything past a new ward and maybe the new spell
Can I get ticket in 1-1 roll? Or is it only available in 10 rolls?
>>531349096sometimes they also lose the astaroth coinflip and you can kill them then
>>531347709What do I need to do to get this look when I'm old?
>>531349217it's any single card in any pack other than daily free packs
So are we getting nerfs and buffs, or cygames will do nothing?
Does gundam only need 2 secondform?
when does tanka go on his morning commute?
heard that's the best time to Q
of course only abyss gets 9pp do nothing lose game next turn
>>531349010You need Brickwright Resurgence and Ralmia for that sadly. Just focus on making Betas and use Orchis to chip on their HP.
Against Rune your wincon is unironically Betas, Gundam is too unreliable since you always assume they will Satan DClimb once they get to 10PP.
>>531349327TRT, weightlifting, hair care and money for nice clothes
Maybe hagtards aren't the biggest downplayers in this game, huh.
>>531349441>rodeowhy are they shilling this shit card
>>531349497Why are they so afraid of creating good abyss cards?
>>531349516how do i play doomwright after they drop kuon on me
>>531349070Seductress Vampire(or Gorgeous Sexy Vampire in Japan)
I only play forest, portal and sword, would adding abyss to my rotation be a mistake?
>>531349441Remove one rodeo for one big bird and that is basically what I play.
>>531349621because it's removal that thins the deck of worthless draws in the late game?
>>531349516I've tried beta spam they just clear the board every turn and somenow have enough pp to heal and leave something on the board for me to deal with i hate rune so much
>>531348587yes against decks I'm statistically favored against
yes against retards I'm statistically favored against
>>531349750The problem is that it's 7pp
i think im dropping sylvia for AF i dont wanna run so many high cost in the same deck
>unironically like kung-fu guy over Filene
Heterobros... Go on without me..
>>531349709considering that everything of those but portal dies in the next 1 1/2 day, yes.
>>531348202Tempest of the Gods was literally just Ramp versus Eachtar the expansion until Dragon got nerfed harder than Shadow.
Most of the best dragon decks were always "play a bunch of storm/burn shit with some ramp". Phoenix roost Ho-chan was probably the other decent one I recall that was a real big dude ramp deck. That deck also had way better tools than what dragon will get with the new Ho-chan. The current problem is dragons ramp cards and card draw right now are dogshit.
>>531349639Unironically because of unconditional face damage
>>531349113What Owen also do is let you mull away your kuon, AG, etc for on sb spells, which are better to hold on to from turn 1, because you can just tutor them out with him.
>>531349919that's natural, kung fu man is cool as hell. i'd use albert over marie too
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>>531349926I'm going to keep playing forest. The first thing I'm gonna do is craft the forest leggos...
>>531348587I got highrolled by Dragon once and he rematched me, so I played again and won, and I requested another rematch so we could do a best of 3 but he declined, I just imagine he had to leave.
>Neutral legendary "Do Nothing" x pp amulet
>Spend all of your remaining pp
>give this amulet x counters where x is the amount of pp spent to play it
>cards with cost x lose all of their effects (spells do nothing, amulets are literal bricks and followers become vanilla follower with their base stats)
if i get filene i will main dragon not matter what
>>531350150do you get points for a rematch?
>>531348587i used to when i lose, but 95% of the time they won't accept, especially the chinks. I always accept because I feel obligated to as a male and give the opponent a best of 3, provided they don't just run away at 1-1
>>531350109Oh yeah, lol what were they thinking
>>531346643Ramp dragon is at least t3 it's not THAT bad
>>531349672Well that's the problem for current Portal, you don't have anything to do on Turn 6 & 7 so Kuon will almost always swing the tempo in their favor. Karula will kind of remedy that though next set.
>>531349847Yeah if they somehow got Destroyers to throw out for free while chaining lesbians then you probably lost the game there.
>>531348202I miss neutral ramp so bad, to this day
Can't believe they not only printed two ward haven legends, but they also printed storm haven support, and literally nothing that would've contributed to amulet haven. They must've considered the Rodeo Skullfane package complete with set 1 while planning
I liked float portal but I guess they don't care and just made Karula an artinigger
>>531347770artifact rapes aggro wdym
>>531349441good for what? getting your ass kicked by everything?
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>>531348802Dreizehn > Cerberus > Marie/Kaori in my opinion
>>531348249i had a rune emmylou + annegrea on 5, evo the emmylou, and all five of my fairies died and the match was unwinnable because opponent had annegrea, ward, 4/4 emmylou, golem on turn 5.
>>531350291You played ramp cards and you played ramp pay offs. Ramp is ramp, big bombs are not the key factor else every midrange control would be ramp.
>>531350627>loses to apollo
>>531348802Arisa and Marie
why does kaori look like a nigger but have a japanese name
I did it lads, I won all my matches in the B bracket
>>531350770she's Okinawan
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>>531350770She's okinawan.
>>531349497>orchis rapes my face on turn 8 but doesn't kill me>summon ginsetsu to destroy and heal for fucking 4>still in lethal range>second orchis rapes my facewhat a worthless card
>>531350021>mull away anns&grea in any matchup but rune to gamble them with possibly wasting an evo on himLol
This general is so mindbroken by rune you fucks made this guy the most overated card ever released if you keep it up
>>531350770Okinawan(Japanese nigger)
>>531348202Poseidon + Masamune was one of the most retarded shit ever made. Ramp always abused neutral legendaries the best since they can cheat them out early like Sahaquiel.
Do we have one more day to do Grand prix?
>>531350746Love to see a roachnigger lose.
>>531348954Unlimited Artifact, but nobody takes that format seriously anyway. There are only 3 restricted cards in the format and Portal has 2 of them
>>531350021bro you're keeping anne regardless to clear the fucking board so you don't die lmao.
>>531348802Eudie > Orchis > Luna > Arisa
>>531351031You owen deez nuts
>>531351031The only playable card rune get this new set
>>531351051I play forest out of necessity and I like tempo so I'm hoping for fairy tempo to be good next set so I'm pretty sure he had lethal somewhere in turn 8 but a missplay in turn 6 costed him the kill
>>531350770Okinawan. You can tell they're just supposed to be tanned Japs because the only difference is skin color. When they're supposed to be black or brown they draw them with exaggerated features like Mjerrabane
Is each expansion gonna have some coomer friendly leader like Feetlene?
>>531351187fuck i shouldve been spamming that in the shitter ranks
>>531350985nigger:
>:(nigger, japan:
>:O
>>531350770No she doesn't, and Japanese people can get pretty dark
>>531351237I'm sure the Aether alt will be her bent forward with her tits occupying 90% of the art
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A is the nigger of ranks
tomorrow.. the kickening..
>>531351527im AA and it does not get better
Why didn't they reverse the Cerberus censoring if they're going full coomer mode anyway
Now's your last chance to predict Grimnir's effect.
>mull for salefa
>no salefa
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>531350797I haven't seen a single post showing off becoming A bracket champion, looks like it's a LOT rarer than I thought it would be
>>531351605Can't wait, unironically. I'll be able to free up a slot in my guild.
>>531351816A rank filters people who couldnt get 4 wins in both stages so obviously only the best of the best will show up there
>>531351884jeanne storm and ronavero
>>531351884By throwing out Mainyu and keeps feeding it drugs.
>>531351884Focus on healing and the only way they can win is Satan combo, you usually win before they can pull that of inb most games
>>531351816its just luck
the format isnt long form enough to be skill based
even the pros arent getting 5 wins
>>5313516723pp 2/3 ward
enhance 5 deal 2 damage to enemy board
enhance 10 deal 5 damage to all enemies, if allied odin was played last turn reduce that damage by 3
>>531351816Here, bro. I have a fully globed playset of AnneGrea now.
>>531352084Who is this semen demen?
>>531350714well, apollo is a 1/2. My hand could handle a 1/2. What I couldnt handle was a 2/2, a 4/4, a 5/5 ward and a 4/4 that also wiped all the fairies.
>>531351884mainyu to waste their heals, clear kuons and go face.
it's not forestcraft
>>531351884early game mainyu into birds to the face.
>>531351884Pretty decently. You just aggro out since your damage is resilient to their removal and they typically represent few enough threats that you can set up Jeanne burst
>>531352186>I have a fully globed playset of AnneGrea now.Shit I need to use these, I even have the special kuon cards and daria
>>531329397You play Zwei and your shitty 1/1 Puppet hand before their turn 8 bombs. Then you kill using your Orchis turn 8 and 9.
>>531350627that's basically the same scenario
no glade, no may bounce may, no lily against annegrea on turn 5 is also one kind of the losing pattern
forest just can't deal with crazy one turn tempo swing currently against 3+bodies on board
best we can do is:
>turn 7 Olivia+ fairy+may sevo>turn 7 Carbundle sevo +May +Lily +whateverForest just doesn't have consistent one card tempo swing post turn6
so you're always stalling for t8/t9 OTK, which you can't always assemble on time
one Kuon-tier 7 drop for us can just make all the differences, and instead of giving spellboost, it gives us 0pp cards
What card are we crafting from the free leggo?
I am going to use the three legendary packs I saved up for the new set. I am kinda sick of getting legends rise dupes
>>531352835Diana will be a Portal leader.
>>531352812Idk, waiting to see what I get from packs first. If I get a leader ticket that's going to decide what I play before any legendaries as well
We know you're only pretending to be retarded
no (you) for (you)
>>531351032Yes
>>5313516723 play point
2/3
Ward.
Fanfare: If you've unlocked super-evolution, deal 1 damage to all enemies X times. X equals the number of times that allied followers have evolved this match.
>>531352934those are legends rise leggo packs
you won't get cards from the new set
>>531352812Nigga what's the point of asking this right now? We don't know yet.
I'm unironically retarded
>spellboost didn't get a new wincon
It's actually joever. Kuon and Satanclimb are too slow.
>Won 25 of my last 30 games
bros... I've forgotten what it's like to lose
Bros... I need the new cards now...
>>531333570Lose to a single Ward or Heal: the deck.
unintentionally bmed a player because I was calculating whether they had lethal next but but actually I had lethal right now...
>>531353308not bait, just not meant to be taken 100% seriously
i didn't realize rune players were so sensitive though
NO LOBBY TOURNEY THIS WEEKEND
>>531353450lmao fucking gottem
>>531342750reminds me of bahamut into bahamut into bahamut into bahamut
>>531352753well Lygma can swing tempo by killing two 2 healths and locking two other cards and killing the fifth card, the issue is she won't work against ward haven because aura is a well designed mechanic.
double orchis into gundam is the most retarded shit in the planet and whoever designed portal hopefully gets cancer
>matched with artifact mirror
>fag has the GP title
>he plays a perfect alouette > sylvia > orchis > ralmia curve
>I draw no alouette no sylvia and no ralmia
in awe of this dude's skill, truly deserving of that title
>>531353450happens to me a lot
and to my opponents more often (they miss)
>>531353432Thanks! She's really pretty
>>531353601I have a full art card and I didn't spend a cent.
>>531353659you forgot their 1-3 drops into alouette into silvia
>>531353792He has leader, full art and animated sleeves from another leader
>have orchis in hand
>play like a braindead moron to pressure my opponent and get him in kill range
>win
its that easy
>>531343446I have skipped my turn a lot after other people skip because I'm bricked up too and don't want to waste my puppets and removal spells playing them on an empty board. I hope people don't think I'm bming.
>>531353915I have a leader too. So in theory he only got a bit more lucky than I did to get the sleeves.
>>531354004this only works vs sword and maybe forest
>>531346972The worst part is there are no 4-5s good enough to justify it. Unlike rune, you don't have a hilariously unfair stabilizer like grea. Agro decks eat you alive if you leave yourself open for two turns.
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Reminder luck is a skill
>>531354216liteerally works for everything
>>531354216Works against rune
>>531354004Playing to calculated lethal is way smarter than the average portal play of dump everything on curve while playing board and just hope that you have lethal at end game
>>531353824eudie is so fucking stupid. imagine playing a cuckoldcraft like sword when portal mogs your entire curve.
>>531354258I will pretend I didn't see this
is earth rite getting any support?
>>531354004>play a perfect round only to notice later on that I actual had lethal if I evod right>opponent gets lethal but doesn't attack face, notices it afterwards and quitspure skills
>>531354280>>531354329>alpha heal>lose>sylvia heal>lose>sagelight>lose>cerb/ceres>losei mean maybe if you get 8+ damage in turns 1-4
>>531354258God damn, congrats. Hopefully I can improve my luck for the next set. I'd be really happy with the new fairy or dragon leaders.
3/5
I have a feeling this will be the last one
>>531354453It got some very good cards that directly address their problems but might somehow still be bad despite being an entire deck of pushed cards because the expected meta counters the shit out of it
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>Whenever an allied Departed follower enters the field, give it Ward.
So only skeletons?
>>531354654Anything reanimated gets the tag
>>531354654anything that gets reanimated has the departed trait
>>531354654Burial Rite gives Departed to whatever it revives
>>531354453loses too hard to spellboost (soon to be the only S tier deck), unplayable
do they ever give easier leader tickets
like for 5th anni maybe they let us spend $30 to pick one directly
>>531354453the best dirt curve is still anne grea into kuon
>>5313548643 years from now if your account has Rodeo sleeves they will let you choose one
Which class had the cutest boys in SV1 ?
>>531354654>reanimate (1)are we going to start running bats? there better be some godly 1pp bronze/silver next set.
>>531353624Lymaga might help, but it still needs testing
I've been thinking about "whether Lymaga would be better than Olivia now" when I was playing, and
I find that draw2/heal2 actually helps a lot
3 globes used
I feel bad now
>>531355065no, just play a skeleton before her
>ralmia's artifact summoning prioritizes the first ones in the list from left to right, not the order you select them in
>my striker artifact gets sent to the shadow realm
This just costed me the match. Absolute garbage design. If I were playing this card game in real life I'd be able to choose which one to banish from lack of board space.
>>531354258>mfw I see this after hitting pity without a single rng ticket
>>531354654Skeletons, Ghosts, anything Reanimated, that new zombie token that was revealed
>>531355129can you make a webm of the arts?
>>531355236>that new zombie token that was revealed6pp and this is 5pp
>>531355191>there are only 2 cards that even produce skeletons>if you're playing the new 4 drop storm you don't even wanna drop your 0pp skeleton on board just randomly
>>531351816I saw at least 2 or 3.
>Abyss buff
>Dragon buff
>Portal nerf
>no rune nerf
>>531355194so it's based on the order in which they were created
literally nothing wrong with this
>>531355371your bonemancer?
>>531355236ghosts banish and cannot be reanimated
>>531355460>schizo babble
>>531354958Anne is crazy but Kuon is actually pretty awkward in dirt
>8pp 4/4 do nothing
I don't think I have ever seen a worse card in my entire life
>forest was good
>suddenly everybody gets wards from ass
I can tell kmr got rekt by forest pro and had a melty
>>531355526>it's based on the order in which they were createdThat makes sense, but it's specified nowhere at all
>>531355615Next motherfucker who says "do nothing" to any card at all is gonna have to suck my dick
>>531355550yes, bonemancer and mino
Those are your only sources of skeletons.
>draw neither and reanimate (1) does nothing
>>531355631These sets get designed months in advance you moron
>No rune nerf
They are not even hinding it anymore
https://fes.shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/
>>531355730>>draw neither and reanimate (1) does nothingBetter than bricking cerberus
1pp do nothing
2pp do nothing
3pp do nothing
4pp do nothing
5pp do nothing
6pp do nothing
7pp do nothing
8pp do nothing
9pp do nothing
10pp do nothing
>>531351816It's genuinely really difficult to just win straight like that
The most aggravating about haven is not that it's boring to play against, but rather that the people who play it have convinced themselves that it's a weak deck and they are geniuses for winning with it.
Are ranks and groups being reset after this season ends?
>>531355615Check out Ralmia 8pp 2/2 do nothing
>>531355869Very accurate description of lamp dragon gameplay.
>>531355827Why would they nerf the third strongest craft?
Reminder that if a card isn't doing 20 storm damage to face in a single turn then it's basically a do nothing card.
heheeheee, what's wrong swordkek ?
>>531355828>put 1 drop in deck>brick your wincononly in abyss
imagine if roach lost storm if you had played a fairy before
Thinking about it, Ho-chan will stack so if the game goes on long enough you could get 2pp genesis dragons. Can't think of any actual practical use for this but it is an interesting thought
>>531355886i just flat out threw
i'm still upset about it
>>531355993Ranks never reset, only master levels
Everyone drops one group, unless you're Diamond, then you drop two to Ruby
>>531355993Rank doesn't reset. Group will drop by 1 stage.
>>531355729*schluuuuuuuuuurppp*
>>531355913>implying its not a weak deck when haven niggers lose to everything under the sun except for rune trannieslol
>>531355827Wait we have info of the balance changes?
>>531349019Alice was the first bloodcancer deck.
>>531353373>too slowgood thing the game just got slower with tons of wardspam, healing, barriers, aura etc
>No storm
>No draw
X pp: Do nothing
Ho-chan
>Mana halving is an unfair and unfun mechanic to play against so she needs to be shit
D Climb
>Doubling your mana and drawing 5 cards is a fair and fun mechanic to play against so it should be top meta permanently
>>531356149Yes. When you people loses to this card, you will be ashamed of your words and deeds
>>531356183Better than me, I had a fucking circuit breaker trip and knock me out of my final game in Group B earlier.
>>531356409Someone on the sv design team is a blue nigger who liked that turn reset blue card
>>531355615check out the 2pp spell do nothing
>>531356183I feel you, throwbro.
>>531355827what is this even? There are no changes listed to any of those cards. For some weird reason there's also the exact same amount of cards from all of those 3 listed crafts which seems like a weird coincidence
do i have to bake the bread again
>>531356239Sure nigger, just a coincidence that the winner of my lobby tournament last weekend was haven and all the runner up 3 wins were haven too. And that the first faggot to post his 5 A rank GP wins in this general was haven. And I'm also sure more people are playing haven because they just discovered how much they like the archetype rather than because they realized it's fucking cancer.
I can't believe this trash is getting buffed next expansion.
>>531355615at this point we should call it "Dragon Do Nothing" rather than ramp
>>531355869Typical Abysskek gameplay
WHAT'S THE POINT IN RAMPING IF ALL YOUR CARDS ARE SHIT?
>>531355827>>531356272>>531356621are you guys retarded faggots thats a pre release preview of cards
>>531356526i could live with this because its not your fault
mine was just 60 second timer causing me to do something objectively incorrect and stupid
>portal player plays like absolute dogshit all game
>still wins
jesus fucking christ, you fags should be curbstomped
>>531356713you dont get it bro, you get to your 8 cost do nothing cards earlier so you can do nothing earlier rather than later
>>531356717stuff like +1 hp and +1% follower crit chance as rewards for winning battles
>>531356656Anyone who has been redpilled about Haven's fuckery is an ally of mine
Visual effects for cards that have "At the end of your opponent's turn, destroy this card"
>They are still trading into doomwright
>>531356656you need to stop playing sword. it sucks.
>>531356751now that makes much more sense than anything balance related
>>531356656>brownoid babble
>>531356832I bet the jap would go TANOSHIIII if they actually added something like that
>Go on loss streak
>No longer upset about it, just wanna play more games
Shadoba... TANOSHI!!
>2 more months of artifact being tier 0
It's over.
>>531356846You got me in lethal range? Just let me click my healing amulets. I don't even need a target for them. +1 +1 +1 by the way here's a bird fuck you.
>>531357041artifact loses to rune (the only tier 1 deck in set 2) so it's dead.
>>531356682IT'S NOT EVEN A FUCKING DRAGON
>>531355615>If this was rune>7pp>7/7>Fanfare: Half the cost of your deck and hand(round down)
>>531356717In the first game, there was a tab that you could check during matches with things like
>Total followers that came into play this match: XSo you didn't have to manually track it
>>531355198Could be worse. My "lucky" chest was Albert. Sign me up for 100 more Legends rolls I guess...
>>531356183I threw getting into A finals and got to B instead. Probably for the better honestly because even if I didn't missplay, I wasn't even close to getting five straight wins in any part of the event.
>>531356149Ho chan into Twilight into Ho chan into anothe twilight into 3 genesis
>>531330813Look at all the carried runebitches downplaying in the replies, goddamn.
They should have made overflow when you have reserve PP and give Dragon cards that let them store PP instead of just give them another one
>>531331273Ward Havenโs out against Rune is Aether superevo into Aether superevo. Have 2 Williams back to back or die to Jeanne buffing whatever sticks.
Outside of that juncture it should be dogshit against spellbitch since it canโt aggro it and spellbitch doesnโt care about stalling.
>>531356656>>531356846Haven are like the Amish, quietly putting on this humble simple man act but secretly amassing wealth and power and resources and will fuck you up