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/sthg/ #8450 - Storm and Wind Edition
==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://www.youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
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>Sonic Rumble global launch delayed:https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 24 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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Previous Zone:
>>531374878
Hello sthg. I am new here. My favorite pairing is between Shadow the Hedgehog and Sally Acorn.
Reminder that ocfaggotry thrives thanks to complete losers with zero talent, no ambitions, and way too much time to waste pretending their self-insert doodles matter.
>>531411824gay, you should be shipping sonegg
>>531411674 (OP)That's not Storm, you fucking retard.
>>531411824Send this one to the gallows!
>>531412019Vile rapist molestrix, no wonder Sonic runs as far away from her as he can!
>>531412560Roxy or something. You should make a model
You guys keep saying Blade of Courage is in character. I hate joining character debates but since when does Sonic force people to go to school lol
>>531412909Sonic is the wind, he felt like forcing Yuta go to school and also rape him in his sleep.
>>531412909Sonic is a paragon, he will tell you to do what is the moral and/or correct thing to do
>>531413024What about the whole freedom thing
>>531411930My god, anon you're such a whiny bitch.
Your entire existence is guzzling cum in a shitty manbabies general while hardly anyone cares about you.
Okay but how did everyone miss the obvious Sonic Underground references in the manga
AS LONG AS I'M AROUND, YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE A WINGMAN.
THE FOREST IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE ON EARTH.
I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS, JUST TELL ME WHO TO SMASH.
YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE WAY I DO THINGS, BUT I GET THINGS DONE.
>>531413256Ocfaggotry has rot your brain already. I feel bad for you.
>>531413623Anon every fucking character in this franchise is oc tier, shut the fuck up.
>>531413494Chris will bear Sonic's children because he is the size of an average human mother
The simpsons predict the future
>>531413623Kill yourself and take with you the gayest OC known as shadow the hedgehog.
I told you, ocfags now cope and call official Sonic characters ocs too. Ocfaggotry is a serious problem.
>>531413818People have been doing that with newer and comic characters for years, this is nothing new you retard, who the fuck cares if someone posts some art of their character? You can just filter them you idiot.
>>531413379By not being a grandpa.
>>531413705incorrect, Sonic will bear Eggman's children
>>531413702What is that fucking lying down animation?
Why don't they just be friends with benefits? What's the worse that could happen?
Imagine crying because the sky is blue.
>>531414348Amy expects commitment, which Sonic can't provide
>>531414348One of them gets another friend with benefits. Likely Sonic.
>>531414348Sonic is spoken for
>>531414348Amy going schizo when she finds out Sonic is also friends with benefits with Rouge and Tangle
Eggman angrily masturbates after every loss to Sonic, it's become a habit
Does this general have a discord?
Don't you forget
Sonic The Hedgehog is a fucking icon
>>531415375I just got this banner and you post it too. I'm freaking out.
>>531415340From what i've seen after all the drama in a year, they have a private place for fapping each others in a circlejerk.
>>531415340Several. Duo is in one of them
>>531415664In a few of them, can confirm, although we still talk about Sonic and the general from time to time so itโs not like many other of the general discords.
>>531415927Is there a sway to access the super secret circlejerk or it's just fags recluiting off reddit?
What are Rosemary's thoughts on Bat slut and Acorn whore being around her son?
If Sonic wanted you, is there really anyway you could stop him?
>>531416320I would call him a faggot and fuck someone else.
>>531416320BACKSHOTTING AT SUPER-SONIC SPEED!
>>531416220Iโd assume sheโs cautious for obvious reasons around rouge due to her being a thief and spy
Sheโs cool with sally seeing as sheโs basically an aunt/big sister to him.
Neither of them are also fucking tails behind her back so get your mind out of the gutter.
>>531416220She elected a man who tried to kill her son, I doubt she thinks about his welfare at all. She just seethes at the Acorns.
>>531416620>Neither of them are also fucking tails behind her back so get your mind out of the gutter.Reading how archie handles characters that wouldn't be entirely impossible.
>>531416810It's the aussies he needs to watch out for.
>>531416220Rosemary is a stupid whore.
>>531416920SHUT UP
SONIC IS SHIT
will draw later, she's very racist towards hedgehogs for no particular reason
>>531416973Ah yes, the koala fever.
what animals would be interesting for OCs?
>>531417020you can't make me not love sonic
>>531416569Should I animate rhis
>>531417207I had an idea for a vampire bat a decade ago, it's just a male rouge reskin with a pig nose. I needed a vampire story, it worked so well the OC escaped the franchise, but off'd himself out of depression.
>>531416810Oh come on anon, it was bad but it wasnโt THAT bad.
>>531417207Something extinct like a thylacine or saber-toothed cat.
https://youtu.be/OxLH0nnUnCY
>>531416320>Fill my asshole with Krazy glueI win
>But I. Won.
>>531417584>it was bad but it wasnโt THAT badTails would never simp like that, and my hero sonikku woukd never bully in the most emotionally shattering way possible AFTER he expressed how worried he was about tails.
Where are all the Wallaby characters?
More species need the monoeye
>>531417617saber tooth tiger is pretty damn cute
Didn't know being a comic book reader would be just me scqreaming at the wall "BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE FUCKING SENSE!" every 2 issues.
Is it the same for other comic franchises? Graphic novels are way more consistent.
Reddit spacing? At this time of night?
kangaroo girl, couldn't get the belly pouch
My OC is better than yours btw.
>>531417097Always liked the idea of orcas having irrational hatred towards Sonic. Not even for any other hedgehogs; just Sonic
Movies have never called it super Sonic. They have called it Golden God twice.
>>531419975I just saw this post on my timeline after seeing this post. This is the second time something like this has happened with
>>531415375>>531415478I'm actually scared now
>>531420180More like the golden dildo.
Because he's a pain in the ass!
Everytime Shadow calls Sonic "Hedgehog," he's calling him by his last name not by his species.
>>531420180The toys call it Super Sonic and Super Shadow so nothing to worry about. Movie only fans should know that their opinion ain't worth dick
>>531420524It's interesting to me that comic Sonic fans have historically been an actual source of confusion. You have people on here who think the Archie and IDW versions of the characters actually represent them well and feel comfortable using them as an example.
Now we are going to have moviefags of the same mindset.
I like it. I want this fanbase to be destroyed.
Why hasn't anyone questioned that the aliens look like and even call themselves anthropomorphic versions of native Earth wildlife of the same name?
>>531420685I will make sure she doesn't go extinct
>>531414348Never stick your dick in crazy
>>531414138What's wrong with being a grandpa? Sonic would be in his 50s if he aged in real time.
You mean... that black hedgehog?
>>531420853What's the worst that can happen?
>>531420650Eventually if you can't enstablish consistent characterization people are going to get groomed according to the latest iteration, i understand this only now after being exposed to Xfaggotry. Reapeat this over time and it become like a multicultural big city with niggers stabbing you at any moment.
And no matter if you resort to AUs or main canon business, people look what is available at the moment.
>>531421276I think its happened already. On sthg nobody is naive enough to think the movies are in character (We have comicfags who theoretically would have made the same mistake though)
But if you watch youtube the average sonictuber thinks the biggest difference for movie sonic is that he's traumatized
>>531412909He didn't force Yuta to go to school, Yuta was already going and Sonic didn't want him to be late
>>531421867tfw there was no sonic to take me to school 20 years ago
>>531421426>But if you watch youtube the average sonictuber thinks the biggest difference for movie sonic is that he's traumatizedTraumanic :'(
>>531412909Education is important for children so they can make well-informed decisions when they're adults capable of exercising autonomy and consent.
School is wind-pilled.
>>531420853She's not crazy.
>>531414348Because Sonic's too late.
Blobian women x blobian twink OCs or human men
Sonic, Shadow, and Knuckes all make horrible boyfriends.
Sonic should have a character like JD from Scrubs.
>>531424584Bee...fox?
Box!
>>531424941Shadow was a baby game for babies.
>>531425050I'm still mad his glowup was cancelled.
>>531425175Shy is Shadow covered in dirt?
Amy watching Sonic chew on Chilli Dogs
>>531425276It's like artistic and represents somethung or other
>>531425672Yeah yeah I like them too but come on, shipping culture is so banal, there's not enough art of these two being badass forces of nature together.
>>531425276Because Sonic and Friends did it?
I don't get what the point was but Sega did it first.
Amy
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Comicfags getting their first taste of windnic and finally realizing why he's such a weird character to put in ships
Balde of Courage makes no sense. Sonic isn't a character and just stands there. What am I supposed to feal? How is anyone supposed to relate to this? IDW is much more clear with a cast of developed characters that express to the audience the emotions they should feel like Whisper. With poor drawings, incomprehensible writing, and no color it's like an unfinished draft compared to an actual premium quality product like IDW.
>>531428275Can you try harder with your bait, I'm tired
>>531428275>Sonic isn't a character and just stands there.I don't mean to sound pretentious but have you noticed how Sonic speaks and behaves in the games before shit hits the fan? He really has never been very personable. In the context of the games he's just meant to be aloof but I think his behavior would be strange in real life.
idwfags when sonic acts like sonic
Sonic should be a deaf gay man from Mexico.
>>531428275I was literally about to agree with you until you brought up IDW. Can we get genuine posts and not just poor quality bait?
>>531429241>shadamymental illness
>>531429581>zoomer phraseI suggest you drink bleach
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>>531429718>uhh uhhhh you are zoomzoom>shadria
>>531429913Did your 3rd bell English teacher just teach you that phrase? you're an obnoxious underage b& faggot.
>>531429718get a job krackhead
>>531430243>you are [projection]I'm older than you, kid. scram outta here.
Sega has put out another statement about pirating the manga. Situation is a bit fucked because even if they did do simultaneous release for an english translation, people are still going to pirate and spread that version instead like they do with IDW lol
>>531430484Get a job krackhead dogfucker.
>>531430408Don't you have a discord mod to get groomed by? fuck off
>IDWfags when the manga isn't written by a tranny
>>531430742>More projectionI don't use discord
>>531430716But that's not my name and I have a job and I like Shadria
>>531430742Get a job, krackhead. Beastiality is a sin.
Leviticus 20:16
"The woman that shall lie under any beast, shall be killed together with the same: their blood be upon them."
>>531430864Krackheads do. They have nothing better to do with their sad and pathetic sinful lives.
SOA biblically accurate Sonic
Shadouge is OOC fake and contrived
Shadamy is a crackship
>>531431325Get a job, krackhead.
>>531431403I've had more jobs in 1 year than you ever had in your lifetime
>>531430934>>531431508>That's not me>I've hadYou can't even be consistent when you samefag jesus christ
>>531431508Richmunk say what?
>>531431598I've had no real interest in this silly little concflict but you're going to run yourself ragged if you really think there is only one person in this general who likes Shadria. I am not that person. If I told you what I do for work you'd wish I was lying.
But it's not about me. Shadria is based. Shadria will always be based.
You literally talk the same way every time you reply to people Krack. Nobody believes there's only one person who likes Shadria in here, but you are the only one who obsesses over it like this
>>531431961Also the only one obnoxious enough to drag shitting on other ships into it.
No one would care about your enjoyment of the ship if you weren't a crybully with a persecution complex, Krackhead.
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>>531431087The bible had to ban based dogfucking (and horse) because God knew itd be too addictive and woman wouldnt want men anymore. Similar to how men sleeping with femboys would make them not need women anymore
>let's talk about sonic?
>>no, let's talk about zoophilia
>>531432528What's not healthy is you shitting up the threads trying to convince people there are people as deranged as you posting shadria to the same extent of defending it from other ships, talking about maekawa, or it's intent or how it's le heckin based, trying to show how popular it is with Asian fans to get people on board, etc. People who just like the ship, just like it. It exists, its there, it's cute. But you make it your entire personality. You can not explain the fact that when you had your meltdown on X and left social media for a few days, there were no posts about Shadria at all! Except for people noticing a very distinct lack of your posts.
No one going "Shadria is based" in your absence.
That doesn't mean no one in this thread likes or appreciates the ship, but something you don't seem to understand while you're trying to cover yourself and say "er well I'm not the only one who can like shadria take meds" is that no one talks about it to the same degree as you. You lack self awareness to a horrendous degree like most women do
Is fucking a Chao zoophilia?
>>531433436Glad you got that off your chest, but I'm not her nor do I understand what you're talking about. Shadria is based. Shadow and Maria are lovers.
>0 days without shitflinging over shadow ship
I truly wonder how Slashy thought he was going to rehabilitate this woman. She can not take criticism to save her life
>>531433549Men don't talk like this
>>531433757>I wonder how [CRIPPLINGLY AUTISTIC FAGGOT] thought he was going to [LITERALLY ANYTHING]it's a mystery!
>>531433086>>531433519Furthermore, if you've ever actually met/spoken with women who fuck dogs, they literally don't go back to men. They can't, men just can't do it like dogs can to them. The dogpill irreversibly changes you for life, it's a pill you can't come back from. So it's interesting.
Supporting the romance of two deeply in-love people doesn't make me a zoophile. You are vile and deranged. Your ceaseless mindbroken rants will never take away Shadow's love for Maria.
>Me
>7 years old
>Year is 2005
>Inuyasha and Sonic (Drummond) sound kind of similar
>Assume they have the same voice actor
>This is wrong
>Decade later
>Learn about Sonic underground
>Inuyasha's voice is the singing voice for Sonic
>Offline most of the past day
>Click on the current thread
>The latest post is a text wall about how I ruined the thread because someone posted Shadria
>When I post this the response will be "Ah so you were here all along I am vindicated"
Unreal
Shadria is cool and all but Shadow isn't the Shadow that was on the ARK, he's a second Shadow that was made on Prison Island by Gerald before he was executed. His memories and feelings are fake, he never met her. Maria never loved him like she did her Shadow.
>>531411674 (OP)The Storm is actually Zavok
>>531434780Imagine this being your biggest problem in life. What low lives on 4chan have to say about your precious ship. This thread would improve tenfold if we just banned women
>531434809
Imagine thinking anybody would believe this bullshit
>>531435178Not only is this wrong due to Shadow being confirmed to be the original, but it also misses the whole point of his amnesia and "what if I'm not the original?" arc, where he accepts that even if he wasn't the original, those events and memories still were, and they're a part of him regaress.
"I am all of me" and all that.
That being said, looking up these latest posts reminded me why I don't come here as often as I used to, so I'll just leave it at that.
>531434987
Imagine thinking anybody would believe this bullshit
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The equivalent of wind-deniers actually exist for Superman fans.
At this point I only come to sthg to gauge unfiltered reactions on the newest official Sonic content and keep up with RPGfag. When the americans wake up everything spirals into fighting.
>shipping bullshit
Shipping needs to be banned. Seriously.
>>531430497What do japanese people not use torrents?
>>531435725I also noticed watching the movie that while Superman's character isn't the same as Sonic's, the whole idea is that his actions and attitude cause the other, more selfish superheroes to see the light and start fighting for what's right because it's what superman would do. That reminds me of Sonic.
I don't care about Superheroes much generally but I understand now that this is the ideal appeal of Superman. If you try and force him into a standard character position he will just come across less interesting than the other characters. So you make him do what he's good at.
>>531435849This. This. This.
>>531432750>Similar to how men sleeping with femboys would make them not need women anymoreTrue, it did cause the fall of rome
>>531435849For some reason shipping makes people more angry than powerlevelfagging
>>531436126I'm a big fan of shipscaling, personally.
Who'd win in a 2v2?
Sontails or Shadamy?
No chaos emeralds, no power ups, no tech (fuck you miles you jimmy neutron faggot), bloodlusted.
Only game canon feats.
>>531434780Be patient anon. They didn't read the part where Shadow starts crying after being called an animal. Or the part where Shadow realizes Maria is beautiful and the meaning to his entire life after she screams at armed soldiers because they called him an animal. Or any of the parts, since they didn't read it.
>I'm such a Shadow fan, let me repeat what made him cry
>>531436126Because humans are genetically programmed to get mad if someone steal their mate, and for a good reason related.
Fighting on the other hand is a sport.
>>531436395Krack change your typing style at least, men do not speak like this
>>531435794How did she get trapped in the void this time?
>>531436647It was that super whateverthefuck wave thing! There's gooddamn NOTHING in miles away!
>>531436370Sonic and Shadow will keep each other occupied. the balance will be broken once either Tails or Amy win
>>531436126Powerscaling doesn't actually change characterizations and only messes with their powers and abilites, but shipping often completely rewrites how characters act, think, and are at a fundamental level until they might as well be entirely different characters that just happen to look like the original.
Powerscalers at their worst will give you poorly thought out deathbattles and scale Waddle Dees to universe-tier, but Shippers at their worst will rewrite and retcon an entire character's personality just to make their pairing work, and then try to strongarm people into believing them.
Mina Mongoose got me thinking. Do you consider "Decoy love interests"" to be bad?
I know the common complaint is that the writer might accidentally create a dynamic more interesting than the endgame pairing. I think it could be interesting to show why certain characters are actually terrible together before getting them with someone else.
>>531435725I tell my DC friend that Sonic is supposed to be flat and inspirational and he laughed at me and said when Sonic does that, it's boring and uninteresting
>>531435819The rpg is shit
>>531436835>I think it could be interesting to show why certain characters are actually terrible together before getting them with someone else.This is only a good idea if the characters are established members of the cast. In the case of a 'decoy love interest', this does not happen.
There's nothing wrong with character studies into why characters do or do not work together. The issue arises when a character exists solely for the sake of being a romantic object of affection for another. If the love interest is a female, they risk being flat and entirely unrelateable to the female audience. If the love interest is male, they risk being incredibly boring and coming across as a cockblock to the audience or main male character (i.e. Paul in Spider Man).
>>531436603That's because it's Krack replying to a different woman that happens to also like Shadria. You just have a problem with accusing everyone of being the same person if they have a different opinion than yours.
>>531437082The rpg is psmepilled
>>531437138There are no women on sthg
Krack is a tranny hiding behind her feigned opposition to transgenderism to avoid being called out on the fact she will never be a woman
>>531436835It's a concept that's very easy to mess up, but I don't mind it. I just don't want it in Sonic since this series wasn't designed around relationship drama, and it's actual target audience doesn't care for it either.
why do you troglodytes hate krack so much
>>531437408she needs to post tits or gtfo
>>531437435What is your problem man
>>531437408it's just duofag doubling down even though all namefags are cancer... except me, my name is tony.
>>531417207I feel Sonic lacks actual fun looking insects.
Charmie and Jewel's faces aren't too insect like. Would be fun if they had mandibles instead of soft faces and segmented limbs
>>531437408She likes the games more than the comics, and doesn't agree with their ships.
>>531437107Whew this is actually a great breakdown on the subject with the Paul gutpunch
>>531412909Sonic is supposed to be a rebel character, BUT Japan loves the school setting...
>>531437408People here get really schizo about anyone who actually knows what they're talking about which is funny because this is a videogame franchise for children. Perhaps they're just insecure that they missed so many of these details and are just now hearing them from a shipper.
>>531437471>What is your problem manproblem? no problem at all
traditional board etiquette
everyone on 4chan is a man unless proven otherwise because of the fact we're a culture founded on principles of anonymity
the fact you have a name that you willingly associate yourself with while speaking from a perspective of womanhood as if that's relevant to the content you post because you're an attention whore goes against thread etiquette
if you are going to announce yourself as a female presence within this thread then you need to post your tits or gtfo because you are an attention whore
>>531437138>acting like there are foids here but her>other foids that like shadriaThe only other woman here that like Shadria with here was a friend of hers that got chased off already because Krack is the only one with -2 iq to keep trying here.
Besides she shows her ass again by how she starts off by addressing the "other person" as anon because she thinks it'll help her case in making it seem like there's another person, but that other person conveniently has the same manner of pretentious overly polite speech and talks about Shadow's characterization to an autistic degree in how it relates to Maria and and interprets the panel she posted in a way that only foids would care about
>Maria is beautiful and the meaning to his entire lifeMen who like shadria (since there are no other women here who like it besides Krack) would not talk about the ship like this and even if there were another woman, they wouldn't talk like this either because it's full of Krack's retard isms that she rants about almost every day
>>531437615Sonic is a rebel when it matters, not just for the sake of being rebellious. That's why he fights back against tyrants like Eggman, but is still friends with monarchs and cops.
>>531437762I can name multiple Shadriafags that come regularly to these threads that aren't her.
>>531436789Well you'll get out of the void someday.
But not today.
>>531437862There's a difference between people who like shadria and Krack who always has to overly explain how it works because she's insecure and defensive about it
>>531437615>>531437776Education is punk rock. True freedom is the ability to make well-informed decisions to exercise autonomy over your life and knowing is half the battle, kids.
>>531437762I am a guy who enjoys Shadow as a character, and enjoys Shadria both for the bittersweet vibe and its place in Shadow's story and characterization. I've been accused of being Krack on multiple occasions, and I firmly believe that you're losing your mind trying to pin everything on her specifically.
>>531437935STOP DELETING THE WORLD AROUND ME!
>>531436801Bandana Dee IS Kirby level though
>>531437189I know there's at least one direct reference to the psme sequel in one of the victory animations text.
>>531438149I've seen a lot of people get accused of this, it couldn't always be her because then she would have to be on all day.
You can tell how badly the dogfucking insult has gotten under her skin because every time it comes up, it immediately exposes her because she's the only one that rushes to her favorite ship's defense in a way where she has to explain how it's not dogfucking, it's pure and beautiful and you're just seething and don't understand shadow, etc in the same exact way every time and she always just happens to be online around the time the "other anon" she's larping as is around too. She's so stupid and easy to bait out
>>531438149See I can believe you because of how simple you explain it
>bittersweet vibe and its place in Shadow's story and characterizationYou know what you like and say it plainly, but Krack goes on longwinded spiels using words men dont. Yes there are people who accuse every person in this thread that likes shadria of being Krack, but I am not doing that. You are not speaking in the same way she does when she gets defensive about her ship and feigns dismissiveness.
>>531437189He posted a picture of a PSME sign in his game and a reference to PSME in Hope's dialogue and he also posted this a few times: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/521759058/
I'm 95% sure RPGfag is Scribbs. The models look like his art, he's an everythingfag, he knows a lot about Sonic, he loves adding PSME references to his art, and there are a lot of really deep cuts in the RPG.
>>531437951Anons who have made Shadria content
>Hotshelter>ShadallyScribble>Duofag>Krack>Fuckwolfamy>Maris>supersegasonicssIt's not just one person here. It's not even just women. The zoophilic crap is retarded. Sonic characters aren't lower animals. Half the people in these threads would fuck Rouge if not more.
>>531438693You are still missing the point. I am not saying every anon who likes or have posted Shadria content is Krack, I'm saying that she is the only one who cares to such a high degree to defend it the same way she does every time. When she posts about Shadria, it's very obvious when it's her. There is a difference between people who like Shadria and are chill about it and her who needs to explain why the ship works and explain its intent to people and let us know how much clout its getting with asian culture because she's insecure about it's popularity
>>531438587>dogfuckingI also find that insult incredibly annoying because of how it misses the entire plot point of Shadow despising humanity for treating him as nothing more than a lab animal, object, or weapon. Shadow cares about Maria because she's the only one who DIDN'T treat him like an animal, but like a person who was hurting, lost, and in desperate need of genuine human connection and guidance.
It stomps all over Shadow's story and character, and just because I'm not as ready to shoot down people that parrot that insult, doesn't mean it doesn't piss me off as well.
Krack and Richmunk under a tree!
K I S S I N G
Diapers wrapped around their waists as they shit themselves after seeing fan art of their fave being gay.
>>531438654An everythingfag, huh? Ill do everything in my power to destroy him and his work
>>531437408There are four specific people I know who bring me up every day ITT and most of it comes from them. I (usually) know who it is by what angle of attack they use.
>>531439239Careful anon, he's an everythingfag AND a windfag. His power is unmatched, and you're playing a dangerous game.
>>531439239Found the nothingfag
>>531439203>I'm not as ready to shoot down people that parrot that insultBut that's the point. That's the difference between you and Krack, you know how to have restraint and not reply to useless bait because your life does not revolve around the ship. Although you get pissed off because someone insults something you like, you do not treat it as a personal offense to your entire being like Krack does where she's ready to defend its nonexistent honor in the same way she does every time.
>>531439468Almost like when something is very important to someone they feel the need to defend it from attacks because that's normal human behavior.
>>531439737>krack>normal human behavior
>>531438654>Sally Acorn getting forcibly Shadriapilled in HDPlease happen
>>531439737It's not normal human behavior to get so irrational attached to fictional ship to the point it affects you mentally. It's not that serious, never has been. Keeping track of how people view the ship on every site obsessively is not normal or healthy.
>>531439995it's also not normal to wish death on people or write fanfics of them being raped because they like two cartoons kissing.
I don't think it's healthy that you've decided to have this obsessive hatred over an anonymous person because they love Shadow the Hedgehog to the point that you see them every time someone has similar takes on Shadow. The truth is literally any other jp purist would end up coming to the same conclusions about Shadow.
Randomfox, another less popular namefag here, is also pretty adamant about Maekawa and Shadria. But he only makes himself known when he's arguing about windshit. Nobody ever considers him because he's less notorious but he's ten times as aggressive and here all the time.
And that's just an example, that's not to say it's him either. This is an ANONYMOUS BOARD. An ANIME WEBSITE. You are going to run into multiple people with these takes. Get over it.
You know what? I'm adding unironic shipping to my list of diseases, right next to ocfaggotry, that afflict complete losers with no talent and no job. Krack is the poster child of unironic shipping brainrot, and Woefag/dfwnn for ocfaggotry. These diseases really make you act like a fucking retard. I should also include jp purism because it makes talentless anons with no ambitions believe they are Japanese.
>>531440268It should be. Shipping is a plague, and we need to re-normalize bullying these disgusting creatures.
>>531440432Man, this guy just hates Sonic fans.
No, no that's wrong.
Man, this guy just hates fans of anything, period.
>Duonigger up.
That explains it.
>>531440540>call low iq monkeys out for obsessing over OCs no one cares about, Japan and unironic shipping cancer>man you hate SonicYou have the brainrot, I feel bad for you
i see this guy posting and complaining about something every hour of every day, and he claims other people don't have jobs?
If you dislike any part of Japanese Sonic you aren't a Sonic fan.
>>531440540It's bait, I wouldn't take it so seriously if I were you.
JPfags should write fanfiction of what they want Sonic to be like if they think official media isn't meeting their standards for JPfaggotry.
Oh wait. They're all talentless.
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>>531440652Maybe the real "brainrot" is how much you seethe over that stuff. Don't you have anything better to do than complain about shippers, OCs and JP "purists"?
if someone trying to destroy sthg hates krack it means krack is good for sthg.
>>531440432> Fuck off retard
>>531440627I just woke up and could tell Krack was samefagging like her life depended on it to defend her shitty zoophilic ship because she has the unironic shippinh brainrot.
>>531440272>he's ten times as aggressive and here all the time.>that's not to say it's him eitherIt's not him because he doesn't talk like Krack and although he understands Shadow's personality and Shadria, he does not make it his entire personality like her. His interest in Shadria only goes as far as talking about game only media and heralding that as the true meat of the series. He's not the one obsessed with making sure others like Shadria or keeping track of how people view the ship or subconsciously hoping that spamming the ship on every social site will get more people on board with the ship and negate detractors because Krack thinks this will make people who don't like shadria accept it somehow.
>You are going to run into multiple people with these takes.You can have similar takes, but if you type it the same way every time, you just make it obvious who you are. Also Randomfox is easy to spot because he just copy pastes his rants from tumblr
Morning
So, what caused the previous thread to get nuked?
>>531440760Their only talent is to rant on twitter about Sonic not being Japanese enough.
>>531440934Krack has made it clear on multiple occasions that she doesn't actually care if you don't ship Shadria as long as you don't try to change Shadow's character, and you understand that Maria is insanely important to him. She's even been fine with things like Shadouge and Shadally on occasions, which is where I feel like this whole angle starts to fall apart.
That's it
I'm gonna do it
I'm gonna post it
>>531441372Okay krack, when are you getting a job
>>531441139Morning.
>what caused the previous thread to get nuked?Autism, probably.
Once upon a time, Doctor Eggman conquered the world and roboticized everyone everywhere all at once. But Sonic the Hedgehog showed up and freed everyone, liberating the entire world from Eggman's tyranny at light speed. Sonic scrambled the Eggman, and then ran off to new adventures... The End.
>>531441372>she doesn't actually careIs what she says, but her actions on this board have consistently proved otherwise
>roboticized
Scram satamcuck
>>531441591That sounds like a cool short story to present Windnic to new fans, but instead all we got was blade of slop
>>531441642More like what if SatAM but GAME Sonic was there.
There'd be no show 'cause it would've been over before it started.
>>531441634It's not a personal attack on you or your ship to post Shadria
What if Eggman poisoned the Chaos Emeralds with something that causes it to specifically destroy Sonic the Hedgehog once he harnesses their power.
Fast forward to the epic boss fight, and Sonic uses the Chaos Emeralds and ... turns Super Sonic, and defeats Eggman without any issue. Later, Eggman wonders just what went wrong, but can't find anything. Next time, Eggman has Metal Sonic harness the power of the Chaos Emeralds against Sonic, but Metal gets poisoned and is instantly destroyed.
>>531430497That's nice, Sega. Release the manga in English or STFU.
>>531441707Yes, we should read IDW slop instead with crying lesbian OCs. Peak Sonic storytelling.
>>531441928>idw out of nowhereI was being genuine because blade of slop isnt good, but ok
>>531435963Jap culture in general is fucking anal it's unethical to pirate "official" media like serialized manga/games. SMT Strange Journey even jokes that it's a sin not even demons stoop to - there was an article not too long ago of a guy being arrested for streaming himself doing Steins' Gate, for god's sake.
Conversely, they're very laissez faire about fan content and will happily take shit found online if it's interesting or helpful. I recall there was a minor drama among some Fire Emblem romhacks (like FE7if) because some japs took sprites without giving westerners credit.
>>531439893>>531426012>gets shot in the leg>is called the crazy one
>>531438654>ScribbsThat would explain the sheer amount of Sonic characters from different or defunct things but it also means there is a 99% chance shippers have a meltdown since it's the guy who does random ships. Hard to even tell if that's a win for Krack or Duo.
That would confirm Windnic at least.
What if when Sonic says "yeah, let's crack that Eggman wide open!" he actually meant it?
Sonic spin-dashes straight through Eggman and cracks his egg-shaped body wide open... Spilling all of his blood and guts out like egg yolk. And then a giant bird flies out, freed from it's imprisonment within the mad doctor. But then suddenly, the bird lays an egg... but it's actually the Egg MAN, returned!!!
>>531442000Bro, you probably can't even explain why the Blade of Courage is bad. Just throwing the word "slop" and that being the end of it is not being genuine.
>>531441429And here I thought I was decernable enough from Krack to not be accused of being her.
>>531441634I stopped believing this when she didn't have any problems with the Shadally comic and the resulting fankid. The fact that she treats other ships the same way as long as Shadow is handled accurately isn't really even necessary after knowing the former.
>>531442173I like the new chronicles games because it has Surge in it.
>>531442194Reposting my observations from previous thread
>inconsistent drawing>obese hunched back protagonist>Sonic with the Jimmy Saville eyes on most panels>shitty drawings to fill pages>unfunny Japanese humor for toddlers>70% panels are Yuta crying or other generic humans doing things or staring at others poorly drawn.>The most discussed panel is that teacher / classmate with big tits and assYour manga is trash. And ywnbj
>>531442173>Hard to even tell if that's a win for Krack or DuoNTA whoever wins, we all lose.
>>531442446>ywnbjThis is like accusing some guy of wanting to troon out because he thinks girls are hot.
>>531442302>Surge with big ass>Sonia, Rouge, Katella with jiggle physics>Sonia without the MAN VOICE I'm already won over
What if Eggman died a horrible, tragic death every single boss battle/game, but just came back next time without any explanation?
Like, we see Sonic MURDER Eggman in cold blood, in the most horrifying and gruesome way possible, and then next time Eggman is just back again and Sonic doesn't seem to react to that much as if its completely normal?
>>531442446Now give me the same thing about IDW or are you too biased for that?
>>531441291I will never get this obsession with Sonic being Japanese. The IP was explicitly designed to appeal to western audiences.
>>531442924Sonic was created by Japanese people. So, the most authentic Sonic experience is one handled by those Japanese developers, who understand the core essence of what Sonic is.
>>531442775I dislike IDW because too actually
>Story arcs that go nowhere>OCs are a vessel for lgbt agenda>Some characters written ooc to fit the plots>Too many fillersBut I like IDW for the art, they at least have that. Blade of slop has absolutely nothing
>>531440760>Oh wait. They're all talentless.But enough about western writers.
>>531442924Repeating the same lie won't make it true.
>>531442759I mean he kinda died haha in Sonic 2 when his death station blew up and Sonic was the only suvivor, it's kinda like in Megaman 3 when in Megaman 4 everyone thought Dr. Willy was ded but then it turned out he survived, in Sonic 3 start Sonic & Tails think Dr. Egg Man was kil but actually he rise again from hell that's why his first boss-machine was an inferno.
>>531443006I dislike IDW too actually* bleh
>>531443006I really don't see what's wrong with Blade of Courage's art.
What would be the perfect example for a story about Sonic and Amy?
When I think of a perfect example for a Tails story, I just think of Gurren Lagann. What would be the equivalent for Amy?
This is a common criticism of Sonic X, but it seems like the Blade of Courage is getting overhyped simply for the extremely basic task of keeping the characters (Or "Character" since Sonic is the only fucking one here) the same as the videogames.
That's not... success. That's only a standard people have specifically because of IDW and Archie. If those two didn't exist to make jp purists rage then Blade of Courage would be seen as extremely boring.
>media aimed for west
gay shit
>media aimed for east
hellokitty
>>531441372I really don't care or even like other ships so long as it's believably in-character and they don't spit all over Shadow's love for Maria. Shadow loving Maria isn't just a shipping thing, it's his entire motivation for living and doing the heroic cool actions that make fans love him. That's a love so deep it comes even before himself, his life, and his safety. That 1up interview even says his only regret isn't dying in Maria's place so she could live.
I just think, all things considered, that it's impossible to genuinely like Shadow if you hate what's most important to him in his life. I think it's impossible to genuinely like Shadow if you view him as a mere animal, since the entire point of his story is supposed to be a statement *against* that type of dehumanization.
Shadow's story is about free will and overcoming those who think they own him or can mold him to their liking. In a way, his love for Maria is what allows him to have free will at all. He'd be someone else's weapon without it.
This isn't supposed to be a specific attack on an individual, but it's taken as such. I'm not sure why liking something Sonic-related a lot in a Sonic general is such a grave sin, but I'm not going to stop.
>>531443179Pay me 20 dollars and I'll tell you, Slashy.
>>531443237I'm not Slashy.
>>531443006>But I like IDW for the artEhh, some of it's good, but I could say the same about Blade of Courage. At least you're honest though, I can appreciate that.
Murdering anons who bring up namefags out of nowhere to derail Sonic discussion!
>>531443206I take it more as a sign of demoralization as defined by Yuri Bezmenov: that is, the permanent reduction of standards by subjecting people to misery over a long enough period that something that would be mediocre during the good days is held as the new standard because anything would be better than the current hell.
>>531443437You can thank IDW, Prime, and anything Ian and Evan writes, and Iizuka being a senile yesman to his bosses.
The only reason some people are obsessed so much with muh japan is only because japan is not fag obsessed and lame like the west for the last decade, even though japan helped a lot with femboy shit and other social taboo to ruin entire generations.
For the rest, japan has nothing special, has no special quality writing, no special characterization, they're all stereotypes, japan can only produce exaggerated sloppa targeting every audience, they can't save sonic as much as the west and this it's a fact under everyone's eyes (forces).
>Every time we get OOC content, fans treat the next thing with windnic in it as a masterpiece and the return of Sonic
In the right hands, this could be a clever marketing strategy
>>531443330IDW has a better art track record than Archie, I'll give it that.
>People are only praising Blade of Courage because of IDW!
Erm...maybe they should fix IDW then?
>>531442252>here I thought I was decernable enough from KrackYou are, but as I said earlier that doesn't mean there aren't other anons that accuse every person who mentions Shadria of being her. I know what I'm trying to point out.
>she didn't have any problems with the Shadally comicI'm starting to see you missed my point completely. I was not stating that she had a problem with other ships, rather that she was concerned with making sure people are fine with or ship Shadria. She is concerned with making people see it through a romantic lens because she believe it is intrinsic to understanding the "real shadow". It burns her when people do not see it the same way she does hence the meltdowns where she goes on rant about how it's obviously romantic and pure and what it's based on and maekawa's intent and what the staff think, but she is also hypocritical in stating that she's advocating for the truth of Shadow's characterization because there is information regarding Shadow and Maria's relationship in the games that doesn't reflect what she says and even disregarding it, there is nothing the outright tells the audience within this series that Shadow or Maria has romantic feelings for each other. It really just boils down to basic shipfaggotry and hypocrisy. Shadow and Maria are important to each other. That is a fact. Maria is intrinsic to Shadow's characterization and who he is in the present. That is a fact. Maria will always be somewhere in his mind when he considers all his actions go forward. That is a fact. He can not just move on and forget her. That is a fact.
But if you dare say you don't see them romantically, that's where Krack shits herself. She NEEDS people to see it as romantic or suddenly somehow Maria's importance to Shadow loses credibility in her mind. So she spams in hoping it will become the default interpretation
>IDW art
All off model shit odk how you guys like that, evan's art is atrocious.
>>531442982>Sonic was created by Japanese people.So was Metroid. Nintendo's attempts to pander to Japanese audiences were a horrible disaster that nearly killed the series. They wisely gave the fuck up on that and just marketed tit to the people who actually care about it.
>>531443071Rejecting objective facts won't make your delusional true.
>>531443231That's a lot of text I'm not going to read. If you werenโt so annoying about other ships, youโd just pass as another regular shipper, but youโve got unironic shipping brainrot, so youโve decided to be obnoxious to literally everyone both here and elsewhere. Nobody likes you.
>>531443831They can't since IDW is getting cancelled after a year, and let's be honest, the people working on the comic are too vain to fix anything. They basically wish they were working on something else.
>>531442252This too. If she was as schizo as everyone says she'd be seething at scribblefag
>>531442924It should appeal to the west with a japanese perspective.
>"Blade of Courage has Sonic acting in-character!"
>"in-character" Sonic is boring as hell
Hm.
>>531443006>But I like IDW for the artidw's art feels like watching boruto. and that was a masssive downgrade from shippuden in everything including artstyle.
>I think the world is in trouble
Why is Shitnic being proactive if he's the wind, what is this shitty fucking plot.
>>531443889Sonic was not made for western audiences. Sonic doesn't have to be made for western audiences for westerners to enjoy it, just like anime. The most successful and memorable Sonic games are the ones with the most Japanese focus and anime-esc direction. Sonic is shonen media for young boys, and every attempt to deverge from that direction has failed.
>>531444271If Sonic knows trouble will happen, he will do something about it as soon as possible if he thinks that's the right thing to do.
>>531444173And IDWnic and Primenic are so riveting.
>>531443889>Other MI am still cringing hard after more than 10 years, all becase samus was made too much of a spineless damzel pussy and let a soldier die for a panic attack she had after fighting the ridley again in A DOZEN FUCKING TIMES THROUGHOUT THE SERIES.
IT MAKES ME ABSOLUTELY LIVID
>>531444120>appeal to the west through a Japanese perspectiveSA2 did that. It worked because it was basically just anime made by people who were trying to make an entertaining story. Shit like Blade of Courage is corporate swill made by soulless drones.
>>531444190Also the fact IDW can't draw action to save its life. Blade of Courage is able to pull that off. Even Archie could too.
>>531444291>The most successful and memorable Sonic games are the ones with the most Japanese focus and anime-esc direction.Sonic isn't Shakespearean. Why are JP purists so brainrot.
>>531444271>Only goes to save the world after someone directly threatens to ruin itThat's reactive.
>>531444372Both of those portrayals are Sega directed, so of course they suck too.
>>531444291>Sonic was not made for western audiences.Yes it was, and no amount of your self-deluded screeching will change that.
>>531444453So how would you fix Blade of Courage?
I better not see waifushit or clusterfucking the story with every singe character being present.
>>531444173Blade of Courage's plot as a whole just hasn't been that exciting, overall. Sonic's own characterization is not a problem, here.
>>531444601Unironically make the manga about Tails, Amy and Knuckles. Sonic being the demonic wind entity that he is. But at least you'd root for other character that matter and not discount Chris Thorndyke (and I mean it because Yuta is poor)
>>531444612It's only been 2 chapters. Eggman has just been introduced.
>>531444707You know this franchise is called "Sonic the Hedgehog", right?
>>531444453>SA2 did thatNo it didn't. Much like how Dragon Ball wasn't trying to appeal to the west, but still managed to be popular among westerners that enjoyed the shonen formula.
>>531444486No idea, but they're also straight up wrong. I actually agree that Sonic should be anime as fuck. I don't know what Sega's current vision for Sonic is, but it sure as hell isn't anime. If it was, it might actually be fun for once.
>>531444601The only problem with Blade of Courage is that it has the opposite problem with IDW where it pretends the world has no other Sonic characters like IDW has no humans. It's not that I need any of them being the main character, I just want them in the background to make the world feel like Sonic didn't just fall into another different universe. Other than that, I'm fine with the story as it is
>>531444842Yet the manga is about Yuta and not Sonic the Hedgehog. Also Windnic can't grow as a character because he is a paragon or some shit. So I don't get your point.
>>531444227SHE DEMANDS SNU-SNU
>>531444173No one is brave enough to say it but yes Sonic in the Japanese versions of the games is kind of dull and the narrative sucks his dick by having all the characters talk about how amazing he is. He doesn't say extreme 90s things or have any interesting personality traits aside from vague laziness. And he's not really lazy. He just sometimes behaves like a lazy guy.
>>531444601>>531444842I was going to answer seriously, but then you made it clear you're one of the "shitty friends" people. Go to hell.
Would anyone believe me if I say Manga Sonic isn't actually in-character and is in the same boat as X Sonic for being "close enough" compared to western versions?
>>531443846Maekawa literally shares images of Shadow and Maria kissing.
>>531444875>I don't know what Sega's current vision for Sonic isUnironically sega's vision is "whatever makes the most money" in the most carefree way that would make every other corporation pale in comparison.
>>531445008Sounds like you didn't have an answer and is just using that as an excuse. Nothing in there said anything about "shitty friends", you colossal retard.
>>531445113And he has several Sonadow doujins what is your point
>>531445036If he's not in-character then nothing is, and this comes from someone who prefers Archienic.
>>531444875>Sega's current vision for SonicWestern superhero melodrama comics, and western buddycop films, which I can see why you'd hate.
>>531445036I thought this the second manga Sonic opted to STAY I repeat STAY at Yuta's house.
>>531445036How is xnic ooc?
>>531444958>Also Windnic can't grow as a characterWhy are you faggots so obsessed with this? I swear, I don't see this shit with Mario or any other franchise. Sonic keeps getting this weird, hyper autistic demands.
>>531444989I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. OVA Sonic is best Sonic. Quintessential Mascot with Attitude.
>the narrative sucks his dick by having all the characters talk about how amazing he isAlso, can this shit please fuck off already. It's textbook Mary Sue shit, and it's fucking insufferable. The irony of /sthg/ bitching about OCs. I guess it's okay when corporate does it.
>>531445113Not from the games
>>531445329I don't like that Sonic X created an entire sub fandom of people who like it when Sonic is portrayed as god with all the characters worshipping him.
>>531445314Mario's games are actually good, so nobody cares that Mario himself is boring. I mean they should, I'm just saying the video game actually being playable and fun helps.
>>531445314Did I say something wrong? I was not complaining, just stating a fact about the mangaslop. It's fine, you have the JP Purism brainrot, I can't help you.
>>531445481And I don't like how Archie Sonic created the opposite. So where they we go from here?
>>531445314He's at the end of his character arc. You can't have him grow or change in any meaningful way without having him forget something he already knows or by giving him a flaw he doesn't have just to have him "grow" out of it over and over again.
It would be like having someone else teach Sonic the meaning of trist and friendship despite him being the one that opens others to friendship, or suddenly giving him a massive ego just to cause conflict even through Sonic has always been humble.
>>531445565>Did I say something wrong? You are following a kids franchise and is talking like it needs to give you character arcs and development. Just go to a different series, manchild. You're not getting Game of Thrones or the Witcher or whatever.
>>531445652>having someone else teach Sonic the meaning of trist and friendshipLike Lanolin teaching Sonic to rely on his friends in the Urban warfare arc
>suddenly giving him a massive ego just to cause conflictSonic Prime's entire premise
Noticing these were both things a lot of fans hated
>>531445248What's the problem? It's not like he's staying forever.
>>531445747Thank God the manga will flop, so I wonโt have to deal with brain-rotted people like you.
>>531445652A lot of retards are forgetting that this is supposed to be a long-running, timeless franchise, and asking for some kind of "growth" is for a series that has an ending in mind.
>>531445191He bought a single Sonadow pamphlet at a convention because the artist who was selling it is his mutual who also ships Shadria. He's following her private account and she makes things like picrel.
It's just him supporting his Shadria friends by buying their merchandise irl anon.
>>531445572I don't think even you know what the hell you're on about anymore.
>>531445747>character arcs and developmentYou mean like in the Adventure games?
>>531445916That's nice. Still not from the games though
I asked this last thread, but is this show any good? I don't really care for boom.
>>531445889Lol, are you the same guy who swore the Shadow manga flopped with zero proof outside of "Trust me, bro, it did!" and then a Sonic manga was announced and you were dead silent?
Okay, we get it, Japan smashed your birthday cake. Get over it.
>>531445747>"It's for kids, so it's supposed to be shit!">>531445889No, you will. They literally never shut up, cause they're programmed to defend corporate bullshit.
>>531445989>Adventure Games>Where everyone but Sonic went through an arcWhat are you not getting that Sonic is the reason these characters come together and learn something?
>>531445989the "adventure" "games" are slop. like all modernshit content
>>531446020The animation is fluid, but it's not enough to carry the rest of it.
>>531445921Then you lack reading comprehension, like a lot of /sthg/.
>>531446020Decent animation and Shadow is enjoyable, but the show is shit at everything else. Also Shadow is regulated to only appearing during season cliffhangers or starting episodes because even the writers know he was the only good part.
>>531446050Do you even understand that mangaslop like Jet Black and Blade of Slop are just products of a predefined marketing budget? Every quarter or year, they allocate a big budget to market Sonic in Japan. Since they've run out of ideas to convince the suits that Sonic is still viable, they came up with the idea of releasing poorly drawn mangaslop to boost brand awareness and inflate the numbers for quarterly reports. There's nothing soulful about those stories. But you have brainrot, I don't expect you to understand real life decision-taking because you are unemployed.
>>531446020Fuck no.
>>531446050>Okay, we get it, Japan smashed your birthday cake. Get over it.The gall of you when you spend every waking second of your life bitching about how the western hemisphere raped your dog.
>>531446342Brainrot? More like kaka rot
Good morning /sthg/
I want to fuck this thing
I'm sorry if this is blaspheme but without even reading it, Blade of Courage sounds identical to the Knuckles show and the biggest difference is literally just the age of the human companion
Oh and Knuckles has more Sonic characters in it.
>>531446126>"Sonic is SUPPOSED to be a bland piece of shit! This is good, actually!"
Now I'm no zoologist but if something like this appeared in our world I'd probably be inclined to give it a different species designation than "hedgehog".
This thread is just telling me that it really was a mistake to get Ian, Evan, and any kind of "fan" to write for Sonic because you all clearly want some mature, triple-layered, dramatic storytelling with characters going through these trials with an end point in mind when Sonic is supposed to be something any kid can pick up and waste time with.
>>531446528You not getting a simple children's character isn't anyone's problem
When there's a troublemaker threatening the day, like Eggman or Zavok or Surge, they (and anyone around surrounding them) should feel a big gust of wind right before Sonic shows up.
I'd make it a comforting breeze for the person in danger, but a harsh gale for the evildoer
>>531446493Oh shit, that's true
>Wade is Yuta>Blade of Courage is the Flames of Disaster>Sonic helps Yuta overcome his struggles the same way Knuckles did for Wade
>>531446342The fact that you clearly have a grudge against this manga because it's japanese shows you're the one with the brainrot. You don't hate it for its own merits, you're just taking part of an east vs. west shit-flinging. If that's nit brainrot, I don't know what is.
>listening to adventure theme tracks
>bop to it doesnt matter
>skip believe in myself
>bop to unknown from me
>skip my sweet passion
>skip throw it all away
>skip fly in the freedom
>bop to e.g.g.m.a.n.
>bop to open your heart
>bop to live and learn
Life is good
>>531446528Do you like any Sonic game?
New Uekawa art dropped
https://sportsdarts.jp/news/11562/
>>531446813The dude is bored and wants to argue over the most trivial nonsense to waste time.
>>531446723You didn't even address anything I said in my post. It's clear you don't understand how real life works, so you decided to project your westshit eastshit drama out of nowhere. Ywnbj
>>531446934You don't address anything. You just use the word "slop" as an entire argument. Fuck off and get a actual hobby ffs.
It's nice to know there are people here who just straight up hate Sonic's canon personality when it isn't filtered through dub edits. It reminds me of 2000s forums when people would proudly say Sonic is the most boring personality in the games.
>>531447113>It's nice to know there are people here who just straight up hate Sonic's canon personality when it isn't filtered through dub edits.What I'm getting from this thread is that there are people who just hate Sonic period.
>>531447076Why are you seething just because I'm feeding you trvth nukes? You can't grasp that these mangaslop releases are products of yearly budgets. They donโt care if they arenโt popular because theyโll use impression numbers to pretend Sonic is still relevant in Japan and keep renewing their budget. Why? Because, guess what, these marketing people want to keep their jobs.
Sonic is a Japanese franchise
>>531446590>"Sonic being a Mary Sue with no personality is DEEP and meaningful. You just don't get it, maaan." *hits blunt*>>531446813>>531446918>not liking that Sonic is "meant" to be the shittiest character in his own franchise means you don't like any of the games and you MUST be a trollI fucking can't with you "people".
>>531447278And you're conveniently ignoring the last exec meeting where they stated that they'd focus on western markets because they are already giving up on Japan
I don't get what's wrong with Sonic being a flat character who inspires others like Superman or Goku.
>>531447242>Why are you seethingI should be asking yout hat because that's all I see in your post. It's just a manga, dude. Does it even affect you?
>Inb4 another seethe response
>>531445329OVA Sonic is just the original JP Sonic, so I don't know what you're point is.
OVA Sonic is cool, but he's cool because he's an iteration of the TRUE Sonic.
>>531447476You are still not addressing anything I said, it sounds to me like you're just mad because I have a negative opinion of your mangaslop.
>>531447468This person hates Sonic and wants the series to be put under unnecessary scrutiny for the sake of conflict. Why demand all this from Sonic? Just go to another franchise.
>>531447113Pft! What personality? According to you, he's not a character, but a vague concept.
>>531447278>also>not that Sonic was onlySo yes, the IP was designed to appeal to western audiences. Also, source.
>>531447339>you don't like any of the games and you MUST be a trollNo I'm genuinely asking because a large majority of Sonic stories use this exact format of Sonic being an inspiration to the new character they introduce whether they're reoccurring or just one-off characters. The new character is the one that goes through an arc because of his existence. If you're not into that, how did you even get into the series?
I really want IDW to feature windnic so we can get more of Ian trying to write around it
>>531447468There are people who hate Superman for the same reason.
Someone on Twitter literally said this:
>"Hopecore" Superman, is an uninteresting Superman. He's not a character, he's a vibe. >He's a version of the character not motivated by any sort of characterization or purpose, but to simply exist and make the audience feel good, about him and themselves.There are Wind deniers for Superman.
>>531447468Goku isn't flat. He had one character arc which ran from Saiyan Saga to Planet Namek Saga where he initially rejected, then accepted his Saiyan heritage. Much like Sonic had one arc in Lost World where he learned to never doubt Tails again
>>531447468Flat does not have to mean boring. Optimus Prime is a flat character, and he is beloved. He doesn't really have a ton of character development outside of flashback stories, but he's well defined and an be nuanced. Sonic is just a bland concept who we're meant to care about because Sega says so.
>>531446493Swap out Knuckles for Windnic and the Wade show would be a tried and true Sonic story. That's why the Wade show is literally better than the actual movies.
>>531447569>You are still not addressing anything I saidYou mean "The manga is slop and the japanese SUCK!"? What's there to address? What do you even address? Corporate branding? That's the entire franchise not just a manga. There is nothing compelling about your "argument". It's just east vs. west bullshit.
>>531412909>why does Sonic want people to do what's good not only for them but for society as a wholemy hero understands the bigger picture.. why cant you?
>>531447497>OVA Sonic is just the original JP Sonic,Yeah, emphasis on -original-, back when he was a real character and not a corporate logo.
>>531447613I don't care. I HATE this shit where the universe revolves around a single character. This is what made lose interest in Doctor Who. The Doctor wank has gotten insufferable. I just can't with everyone slurping on Sonic's dick anymore.
>>531447862I'm calling it mangaslop because it isn't good. Japan doesn't suck, but your perspective on it does. If the mangas were actually popular, more people would be discussing them, but they simply aren't. You can stop projecting your insecurities onto me, because unlike you, I can tell the difference between good and bad content. I also have far more knowledge about corporate decision-making, since I actually have a job and deal with that kind of stuff regularly.
>>531448067>Yeah, emphasis on -original-, back when he was a real character and not a corporate logo.Sonic's character has not changed. What are you referring to, what is "different" about OVA Sonic? From my perspective, nothing. He is the same as Game Sonic.
>A flat character arc, also known as a steadfast or testing arc, describes a character who does not undergo significant internal change throughout a story. Instead of transforming, they remain true to their core beliefs and values, even as they face challenges and adversity. This type of arc focuses on how the character's steadfastness impacts the world and other characters around them, rather than their personal evolution.
This is what Sonic is. He is someone who remains steadfast and true, and that sometimes inspires the people around him. It's been a thing since Sonic 2 with Tails.
If you don't like it leave, it's never going to change and you're stupid as fuck for wanting anything other than this in a long-running mascot franchise.
If you haven't noticed yet, the one seething in this thread is Krack.
>>531448067>I don't care. I HATE this shit where the universe revolves around a single character.That doesn't really answer any of my questions though. If there's something you like about the stories tying you toward it despite there being an obvious aspect you dislike, what is it? What part of Sonic made you like it enough to be here in this thread? Are there any games you particularly enjoy?
The same people that don't understand Sonic, Shadow, or even Silver as characters are the same people that will try to convince you that this series is shallow and lacks any sort of meaning, themes, or nuance.
These people are too illiterate to wrap their heads around a franchise meant for children, so in order to preserve their pride they pretend there's nothing there to begin with. Since if they can't see it it must simply not exist.
What the fuck happened in the other thread, it got deleted.
>>531448067Your problem is you're viewing Sonic as another regular person who happens to run fast instead of a fairy-like supernatural being.
>>531448097>More seethingI asked before, how does the manga even affect you? All you scream is slop and something about corps as if the whole franchise isn't corporate angled, but apparently this manga is a unique exception.
>I also have far more knowledge about corporate decision-making, since I actually have a job and deal with that kind of stuff regularly.You must be shit at it since your priorities here are complete nonsense. But you're probably just lying anyway because no one with a job would be arguing over this pointless bullshit that seem to be just scenarios in your head.
>>531448439high concentration of low quality posts just like this one
>>531447378Yes, it seems so.
People like JP Sonic when it's not weeb slop like '06 was.
>>531448638SA2 was weebslop, the only difference is that 06 was woefully undercooked.
>>531448335>>531448407All of this is really putting into perspective of what probably goes through the mind of Ian Flynn when he writes Sonic.
>>531448158>Sonic's character has not changed.Then the writing is just shit and isn't showing off the character in a way that's entertaining. Cause Sonic as he is now, is fucking boring.
>>531448487You mean like how it's reasonable to perceive a character? I am not rewriting my brain to appease yours and Sega's raging autism. There is NOTHING remotely compelling about a "character" who functions more like a concept than as a person.
>>531448638There's a schism in the Windcult it seems. It was only a matter of time.
>>531448553>I asked before, how does the manga even affect you?The kind of question that doesn't have an answer because I'm entitled to having an opinion, and I think that mangaslop is a low quality product.
>as if the whole franchise isn't corporate angledHave you noticed that most of the shit Sega has released over the last year is garbage? The mangaslop isn't an exception. Sonic Blitz is also another product of corpobullshit since the main goal is to get gacha-bucks but not making a high quaity product for fans or people in general.
>But you're probably just lying anyway because no one with a job would be arguing over this pointless bullshit that seem to be just scenarios in your head.No wonder why most of the opinions itt, especially yours are so uneducated since it all relies on making shit up about how the world works.
>>531448792Sonic always functioned as someone larger than life even in old western material. Why are you having a problem with this subject now?
I'm just going to say it. I don't think IDW Sonic is a lost cause, I think the west can write windnic and I think the last arc got pretty close to it. I enjoyed a lot of the Riders are, the only thing that brought it was the duo/mimic subplot and Lanolin/Whisper's drama. Everything involving the game characters was enjoyable for me. I like that they started writing Sonic to give less of a fuck about things, it only got ruined at the end where he starts patronizing Clutch. If the writers can overcome their habits that lead to terrible writing like forcing contrived drama, these comics could be a lot better. Not perfect, but much more bearable.
>>531448487That's the nuance people tend to miss. Sonic is a supernatural being with unlimited potential, but at the same time remains humble, only ever seeing himself as a regular guy that loves adventure. He's just a regular dude at his core, but he's the best version a regular dude could possibly be. He's a friend that's kind for the sake of being kind, confident and coolheaded even when the going gets rough, and just an overall good person to the extent that even if you took away his powers he'd still make the world a better place just by being himself.
>>531448335I don't know, I was fucking 12 and Sonic was the hip thing to be into. If I could go back in time, I'd first punch my younger self in the face for wasting my goddamn time, and then I'd convince Yuji Naka's mom to make his dad pull out. There's your answer, cockwad.
>>531448792>You mean like how it's reasonable to perceive a character?Not every character is meant to be a mirror of you.
Chances are, when the main protagonist is a mirror of the audience, the love interest is likely to be a magical fairy-like supernatural being who only exists to be adored and fawned over and appear special and ethereal and dream-like.
Krack is the one shitting on the manga. Nobody likes IDW Krack you dumb bitch, give up and stop trying to defend Ian.
>>531449051>but at the same time remains humbleYou're gambling on people liking him for who he is, but there have been many instances in the franchise where other characters reject his wind nature because it comes off as annoying.
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>>531448861>The kind of question that doesn't have an answer because I'm entitled to having an opinion, and I think that mangaslop is a low quality product.So you admit you're just running your mouth without reason.
>Have you noticed that most of the shit Sega has released over the last year is garbage? The mangaslop isn't an exception. Sonic Blitz is also another product of corpobullshit since the main goal is to get gacha-bucks but not making a high quaity product for fans or people in general.Okay, so why is a manga released in Japan the epicenter of this to you?
>No wonder why most of the opinions itt, especially yours are so uneducated since it all relies on making shit up about how the world works.>relies on making shit up about how the world works.Please gain some self-awareness, you're embarrassing yourself in here. There is no way you have a job seething like this over literally nothing or rather some random manga in Japan. What kind of priorities are these?
What is the point in debating this shit? I don't even know.
Shadow loves Maria. Not loved. LOVES. It's that love that drives him to fight for a planet that he doesn't personally care about. He doesn't care about the people. He isn't looking for friends and family. But Maria loved the earth and its people so he will protect it.
Shadow will not fall in love with Rouge, Lanolin, or Amy or Surge or any of this.
This is literally just the truth. This is literally no different from saying Tails can fly. Stop seething over basic facts.
>>531449074>The character written for children appealed to the child and was no longer appealing after they grew up
>>531448792>There is NOTHING remotely compelling about a "character" who functions more like a concept than as a person.There are countless people who would disagree with you, and there are countless characters that are made specifically to be unrelatable for that exact reason.
Not everything needs to appease you.
Bro needs to admit that he just doesn't like Sonic and this isn't the series for him.
>>531449321I don't remember posting this
>>531448792>There is NOTHING remotely compelling about a "character" who functions more like a concept than as a person.Santa
>>531449319Now you're saying absolutely nothing. Why even reply to me if you don't have any compelling argument. Your lack of education is showing.
>>531449079Are you trying to accuse me of being a self-inserter? Kill yourself.
>>531449353>"IT'S FOR FOR KIDS, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT!!!"Shut the FUCK up.
>>531449375Those "people" are all soulless drones who need to fucking kill themselves because their blind worship of corporations is actively ruining the world.
>>531449512based on not hating men
>>531449552Why are you so mad?
I'm noticing some similarities between the anons who say "Sonic being inspirational to others is boring" and "Shadow carrying on Maria's wish is boring"
Oh my god it's the Shadouge retard
>>531449529>Now you're saying absolutely nothing.Meanwhile, you've been saying nothing since the start. You can stop anytime since nobody is buying your "credentials" on the subject, you're just some seething faggot with too much time on his hands.
>>531449479Nobody gives a SHIT about Santa Claus, not even children.
>>531449469>"Having ANY critique of something means you don't like it. You can only like something if you blindly CONSOOM!" Shut the fuck up.
Sonic should have writing like Sailor Moon.
>>531449595But hating men is normal and funny
OCfaggotry, JP purism, and unironic shipping are the brainrots killing this general. God, I pity those suffering from these diseases. They really need something else going on in their lives, but the brainrot has already taken over.
>>531449552Chill out, here have a cute Knouge
>>531449654Because I'm in a Sonic thread.
>>531449670"MUH RIA" is a motive that makes Shadow an actual character. Well, except for when Sega project their chuuni bullshit on him anyway.
>>531449864You're the only one throwing a tantrum over it.
>>531449552>IT'S FOR FOR KIDS, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT>ShitOnly you find it shit though. You've not really given reasons for why it's written bad, only that you personally dislike the trope.
>>531449864But i like to have an OC that gets shipped with a character into an anime moment....
>>531449756So far, you have not expressed a single like you have with this series. So it's safe to assume you're just some newbie who entered this franchise with false-impressions and is now mad that Sonic isn't what you had in your head.
>>531449168Knuckles disagrees with Sonic because their lifestyles clash, but they still remain friends despite being rivals.
Shadow still sees Sonic as dependable despite not comprehending his "Enjoy the journey" mindset and finding him to be a nuisance.
Blaze only rejected him because of her past trauma causing her to lash out die to pain and mistrust.
And Silver only rejected Sonic because of desperation and misconception.
It isn't Sonic that's in the wrong, and I feel like your main problem with the character might be that you idea of who Sonic is, is far different from the one the games and supporting cast have been made with in mind.
>>531449595Whispa with the sprite
>>531449824Usagi Tsukino is a real character with a personality. She also happens to be best girl, but that's beside the point. She utterly mogs that soulless rat for free.
>>531449914Kill yourself, shipper.
>>531449552>Unrelatable and inhuman characters like Dracula are made for soulless corporate dronesI don't think I believe you, anon.
>>531448718SA2 was weebslop but nobody understood the story or themes so they just ignored them and it was servicable as an action story. In '06 the weebslop is unavoidable.
>undercookedI don't think it matters how "cooked" it was, Silver's story and generally his relationship with Blaze is the worst slop this franchise has ever produced on principal.
>>531449978>main character is bland>the narrative revolves around worshiping him>nobody else is allowed to accomplish anythingThat is why it's shit. Again, apparently it's okay when corporate publishes textbook trash fanfic.
>>531449990Because we're not talking about the things I like about this series. We're talking about how the "character" of Sonic being fucking garbage. But apparently keeping to a consistent topic throughout a conversation is also a sign that you must hate everything about an IP. Shut the fuck up, schizo.
>>531449864fuck off you fucking retard nobody gives a shit about your stupid fucking imaginary feuds
>>531449864>OCfaggotry, JP purism, and unironic shipping are the brainrots killing this general.1 outta 3 isn't really a passing score.
Why is bulmabitch seething so early in the morning
>>531450443What do you like about the IP? Because so far you have done nothing but complain about an aspect of Sonic' character that has been consistent upon conception.
>>531450469Gigachad is a sonic character.
>>531450657Giga the Chad is my favorite OC
You guys could use some wholesomeness
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Imagine being a talentless loser with no job caring about OC, Japan Sonic (when nobody cares about Sonic in Japan) and defending ships like your life depended on it. Brainrot general.
>>531450643Why do you love sucking Sega's cock?
>so far you have done nothing but complain about an aspect of Sonic' character that has been consistent upon conception.Because that's the topic of the conversation, you fucking tard.
What the hell is happening?
>>531450869Are you just gonna throw a tantrum all day? Is this all you do?
>>531450443>>main character is blandOpinion. Don't force what you personally believe as if it's fact.
>>the narrative revolves around worshiping himIncorrect. Even Amy stands in his way for what she believes in during SA1.
>>nobody else is allowed to accomplish anythingIncorrect. Teamwork is a constant theme in Sonic, and Sonic willingly puts his faith in others such as in SA2 and Heroes.
I don't see why you bother complaining about something when you aren't even aware of what you're complaining about even is.
>>531450981hes got nothing going on in his life. if he died nobody would notice until the smell started creeping out under the door.
>>531450959>I do not like memesI didn't think he could get even more based.
>>531450443>main character is blandSubjective
>the narrative revolves around worshiping himIf Sonic is written in character, he is humble about it and in turn uplifts the character he helping. If he's an ego-maniac about it, that where things go wrong
>nobody else is allowed to accomplish anythingFundamentally untrue because the purpose of the stories where Sonic helps other character is for them to accomplish their goals by the end of the game.
>corporate publishes textbook trash fanficHow is it fanfic tier, I would argue it's more fanfiction worthy to turn him more realistic like the average person so that the average person can self-insert into him or relate to him rather than it being a regular fantasy story about a mythical being.
>>531450869Post more cute OCs please
>>531451026>Opinion. Don't force what you personally believe as if it's fact.Pot, kettles, etc.
>Incorrect. Even Amy stands in his way for what she believes in during SA1.Literally the one time that ever happened.
>Incorrect. Teamwork is a constant theme in Sonic, and Sonic willingly puts his faith in others such as in SA2 and Heroes.Literally the only two times that's ever happened. Every other time, it's Sonic who is the only one allowed to save the day.
>>531450969What do you like about the Sonic series? Why are you here in the sonic the hedgehog thread?
>>531451104Oh we'd likely notice. The quality of posts would dramatically increase I'd venture. And there would be a lot less AI spamming. We ought to kill him actually.
>Pandering to the Japanese exclusively is retarded. let SatAM fans and Archie fans have their fun. yeah sure, put that squirrel in the next game. make her Sonic's wife even.
>>531450869That's actually really ironic coming from you
Plus boobs too small
>>531451231What do you want out of Sonic?
>>531451280>he thinks he even knows what a sally is
>>531451213https://files.catbox.moe/h2taxo.png
>>531451264I'm hoping he gets doxxed.
>talking about sonic? Nah.
>Spiting people with generative AI like some annoying faggot? Absolutely.
>>531451386This is some of you
>>531451123>If Sonic is written in character, he is humble about it and in turn uplifts the character he helping. If he's an ego-maniac about it, that where things go wrongHumility is irrelevant. The other characters still treat him like he's da bestest thing evar. That in itself is bad writing.
>Fundamentally untrue because the purpose of the stories where Sonic helps other character is for them to accomplish their goals by the end of the game.Oh, so people are only allowed to matter worth a shit if Sonic is there to hold their hand. Cool.
>How is it fanfic tier, I would argue it's more fanfiction worthy to turn him more realistic like the average person so that the average person can self-insert into him or relate to him rather than it being a regular fantasy story about a mythical being.You are such a disingenuous, insane cunt I'm surprised you don't gaslight yourself into un-learning how to breathe. Like, do you genuinely not comprehend how stories work? Fucking hell.
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>>531451461No gen her getting plap'd
>>531450869fuck off retard
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>>531451692Modern potato and classic potato.
>>531451678What do you like about this series?
>>531451693Cool, does this mean you stop screaming at people fro having fun in their own way? What do you even like about Sonic?
>>531451254>>531451383I am going to actively refuse to tell you, because it amuses me to imagine you crying seething over never knowing. I don't care about what any of you tards like about Sonic, so I don't know why you're so hung up about this.
>>531451842Thunderbolt is literally rotund, what do you expect?
he hates anyone contributes art and discussion to the thread
>>531451692>Some fucking autistic faggot iPad kid and Tails.
If woefag continues blogposting about her medical appointments and struggles I swear I'll train a model of that stupid shitty oc.
>>531451842yeah, basically this, someone lost time to even detail that
>>531450256>teriyaaaaaaaa>yooooooosh>hiya-oooh!
>>531451912NTA it's ok to say you don't know anything about Sonic. And being less of an asshole would do wonders, just saying.
This is what happens when you dont pay attention to your child
>>531451913She's not rotund, she's fluffy! She's a chinchilla after all.
>>531451231>Literally the one time that ever happened.>Literally the only two times that's ever happened.Not only are you moving the goalpost specifically to try and make your points hold water even after being proven to be complete lies, but you're still wrong, you just don't know enough about the series you're complaining about to know any better.
Do you even care about Sonic at all?
>>531451461I've already collected that one sir, I wish to collect 'em all!
>>531451912I just asked a question, why are you seething?
Geez, no one ever wants to just have genuine discussions anymore... it's nothing but rageful people rage-baiting and then projecting their own rage onto others in an endless cycle of hate.
Do you hate Sonic or have any criticisms about Sonic, or do you just wanna spread hate and make everyone else feel the same anger you feel just so you can feel better about yourself?
Whatever, it doesn't matter. You're free to do whatever you want, I suppose. Live your life however you see fit.
>>531451912It's quite literally different people asking you. You've done nothing but rage and sperg out in the thread saying sonic is shit, sonic is bad, but take offense to people saying you don't like the series, so literally what do you like about it? Because up to this point it's only really done the thing you're upset about. I'm genuinely confused
>jp purism and shipping discussion suddently stopped
Duo is the cure for this general.
>>531412909Did you get this idea from IDW or something? Sonic isn't a hero that goes around making it his life mission to gift freedom to people. Sonic just does what he wants, and is okay with other people doing what they want. He might still grab your hand and take you for a run somewhere without asking you if he wants to and he thinks it will be good for you. Yuta is going to school and Sonic doesn't want him to be late, so he chooses to help him without asking for his permission. It is in character. It's not the first time we've seen Sonic behave like this
Abusing the fox while the thread goes on fire.
>>531452271>why are you seething?Because you're an annoying cunt, and I hate you. Go die in a fire.
>>531452279Sonic IS bad, he's a boring piece of shit who drags down the entire franchise into his own shittiness.
Fine, you want to know what I like about Sonic the Hedgehog? Everything EXCEPT for Sonic.
>>531452098pouring a cup of water on thunderbolt
>>531452610> Retrieve memories from when you wear a baby> Picture of Tails with a baby on his forehead like a hatGeniunely got a kek out of me
>>531452610>That fanfic from 2008 predicted Nine
>>531452687>Everything EXCEPT for Sonic.So do you want a spinoff game about one of the other characters then? Who would you rather be following a series about if not Sonic?
>>531452721She needs it with how thirsty she always is
>>531452886Nine is a concept every Sonic fan has thought of
>>531451912What if I am Takashi Iizuka and I am asking what you want out of Sonic so that I can appeal to you?
>>531452687>Everything EXCEPT for Sonic.Thoughts on Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, and Amy?
>>531452886What the fuck is people's obsession with making Tails an edgelord chuuni? The fact there is at least one official version of this now is baffling.
OCfaggotry and Jp purism are so cancerous, their brainrot shills cannot engage in genuine discussion anymore, they barely understand a word let alone a well built argument.
>>531452234Here, another one https://files.catbox.moe/08g9ei.png
>>531453124It's more interesting and fun
>>531453124There's something appealing about seeing the timeline where sonic didnt help him from the bullies and it all went wrong
>>531453202Does this mean shipping is ok now?
>>531453342Only if it's not taken seriously, but unironic shipping is brainrot too.
>>531453124he's so lame as Sonic's asskisser. Most of his fans in their heart of hearts want nothing more than him to get away from that leech hedgehog and be edgy. Because being Sonic's nice cheerleader has ruined him.
>>531453124Because "genius that existed in a social leash now is broken and unleashed" is cool. Nine has the power to do something alone in a villain mood.
>>531453560>being Sonic's nice cheerleader has ruined him.I think Tailsfags are just assmad they fell in love with a character that was always intended to be number 2. The series isn't about tails, get over yourselves. He's not meant to be the cool character, he has specific a role in this franchise and thats not being the main character. Hes a support and always will be, thats his function. Imagine liking an an anime, but then liking a background character more than any of the main characters and then endlessly seething that they'll never get the spotlight. It aint about em retard
>>531453560Fans of Tails know that him and Sonic are best friends, and that Sonic's been there in the background trying to give Tails every opportunity to grow into the confident and independent hero he wants to be.
The only time Tails gets treated like a worthless cheerleader amd asskisser by Sonic is in Archie.
>>531453124Geniuses are always associated with evil, i dunno why. Probably because they have the power to change the status quo of stories.
Even you see some writers comment on it like Morrison, he thought it's insulting every Superhero is just dumb and born with powers while all the bad guys are scientists.
>>531453847I think Sonicfags like you just seethe so much about the other characters' fans not wanting him to just be Sonic's kissass that you collectively brainwashed yourselves into rewriting history, which is easy because you're all unintelligent self inserters no different than the average One Piece fag. Tails was always cool until suddenly he wasn't.
>Surge only manages to beat whisper because she had a device tailor made to hard counter her
Could base surge actually beat anyone in a fight? Whisper is like the weakest IDW character, weaker than lanolin even.
>>531453847>I think Tailsfags are just assmad they fell in love with a character that was always intended to be number 2. The series isn't about tails, get over yourselves.The series isn't about amy and knuckles either yet they get huge attention lately, and being sidekick doesn't mean he always need to depend on sonic, it menas sonic has huge need of tails like batman does with robin.
But tails does nothing now, he doesn't even help besides the thinkering stuff.
>>531453954Sonic outright calls Tails weak and says he can't fight in multiple games since Unleashed.
Tails used to be a hero.
But because Sonic is a shitty character, they nerfed him purposefully to make Sonic look better and "deep", since Sonic isn't cool without shitting on the other characters to prop himself up, he's just a pretentious wannabe gary stu.
>>531447468Sonic isn't a flat character because that implies he's actually a character, instead of a checklist of archetypes.
>>531452098>"HEY, I AM NOT FAT, I AM BIG BONED"
>>531454192Tails doesn't tinker either he just taps on the ipad. Classic Tails would build weapons and vehicles, now even that would be stealing Sonic's spotlight according to Sonicfags.
>>531453847Tails as a character is identical to characters who often ARE the main central protagonist, with the corresponding Sonic equivalent being a mentor figure.
A young kid who idolizes the absolute coolest guy ever and aspires to be like him. This kid is often the main protagonist, NOT the "coolest guy ever" himself. And then the story becomes centered around the kid's growth and development as he follows in the cool mentor's footsteps, before inevitably growing out of the mentor's shadow.
Tails' story in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, his theme song, and overall themes in general as well as his origin story with Sonic, are all identical to that general convention. The key difference, however, is that the "cool mentor figure" is the actual mascot protagonist of the franchise.
>>531453847I like Tails as he is. He was always cool to me
>>531454307Shut up Sparky, noone asked you.
The fact you're a Gurren Lagann cuck only makes you more of a faggot manbaby.
>>531454109IDW is shitty at powerscaling. Surge would beat most Sonic characters if IDW wrote the character powers properly. The only characters she shouldn't beat solo are realistic Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Metal/Neo Metal and possibly Blaze depending on if you think she can fry her. Unsure about Omega.
>>531453954>The only time Tails gets treated like a worthless cheerleader amd asskisser by Sonic is in Archie.Not him but Fleetway Sonic was a massive jerkass to Tails too. Although he was jerkass to everybody until Johnny's death.
>>531454275exactly, it's not bad wanting a character to do something for real expecually after he already did something in the past
>>531454375Wow, I can't believe there are people that unironically hate Gurren Lagann...
Hating Sonic is one thing, but the best anime ever?! I can't even...
>>531454216No anon, he doesn't. Sonic is humble and supportive of his friends because he's a good person with an independent lifestyle. He gains nothing from propping himself up with others because he doesn't care about how he's perceived.
>he's just a pretentious wannabe gary stu.I see the problem, you're used to the Sonic from the comics, and are acussing the Sonic from the games of having the same horrible characterization.
>>531453230>>531453246This shit is just so cringe. I don't get it.
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>>531443974lol where can I find the rest of these?
I wouldn't blame any of the character for being written retarded, with retarded dynamics.
>>531454375Sparky may be a retard but he's right in this instance.
However let's be honest, if Sonic permanently died or retired, Tails would never be able to carry the series by himself.
>>531454095>>531454192>>531454307Tails will never be as cool or main character material like Taiwan Coolfox
>>531454607Yes he literally does. Play Lost World and play Colors. Sonic even says "iiiiiii could solo Eggman's whole army ez but we have to run because YOU are weak and can't fight and would get hurt"
Sonic is a narcissitc midwit character for self inserters to powerfantasy a lame game where everyone else is weak and just his pathetic kissasses
>>531414348Sonic is probably a smash and dash kind of guy and Amy isnโt a whore, so it wouldnโt work out.
>>531453124Tailsfags are usually insecure so they project their fantasies onto him.
>>531454603My hot take is that Gurren Lagann is overrated because best girl Yoko didn't have nearly as much plot relevance as she should.
>>531452610Those last few panels are actually kinda sad wtf
>>531454890Has anyone even bought that game?
>>531454890Man... i know you wanted to hurt me, but this hurts too much...
>>531454890Not them but Taiwan coolfox is just Ratatoing for Sonic's Ratatouille. A cheap knockoff.
And Tails wouldn't be automatically better for ripping off a ripoff, he needs to improve his own self.
>>531455118You really overthink it. Tails can fight. Let him do a game where he can fight. That's not just Sonic's thing it's everyone's thing. Sonic's not original or special at all, anyone in the series would and could do a Sonic game.
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>>531454913Much like how Frontiers insisted that Tails is wildily inconsistent, the problem lies with letting westerners influence how Sonic is written.
>>531455041540 people did according to steam statistics.
>He gains nothing from propping himself up with others because he doesn't care about how he's perceived
>because he's a good person with an independent lifestyle
Sparky will say people can be inspired by Sonic to behave like him, but the reason Sonic is able to not be worried what others think of him is because he is a good person at his core to begin with. Sparky does not have a response for this.
>>531455220Sonic does the same things in the Japanese game too. It's a Sonic problem, because only self inserter Shonen manbabies like Sonic, who is a bland, empty character only there to narcissistically tear down the other cast to make himself look "deep"
>>531455203>Cobang Coolfox from Taiwan kicks and it hurts people Imagine how much damage Tails does to a robots when he spinkicks. With rhythm badge equiped he can destroy even his final boss on secondsm I don't think Taiwan would live if they were to fight.
>>531455008Why, she's a support character who Simon had a mild crush on and his mild child like jealousy got his bro Kamina killed. Also when Nia joined the crew, Yoko stopped mattering as much.
also she has the same name as the woman who destroyedthe Beatles
>>531455315>Sonic does the same things in the Japanese game too.Except the Genesis games, and the Adventure games, and the Rush games, and the Storybook games, and the...
>>531455531it wasn't mild, he seriously loved her but he's a cuck who worships Kamina like a fag even when Kamina cucks him.
https://files.catbox.moe/dp2g9o.mp4
I'm gonna fuck Sparky girlfriend and Sparky's gonna start calling me "big bro" and kissing my ass lmao
>>531455543>Sega of Japan clearly has better writing.
>>531455312Sonic doesn't worry about what others think of him because he's completely self-assured. He knows who he is and what he is, and that's all that matters.
Sonic being a good person at his core is supposed to inspire others to be good people as well, like Superman. What makes Superman "Superman" is that he is ultimately a good person even with all the power that he has, and that should inspire everyone else to follow his example. In Sonic's case, his own inherent goodness is represented through the lens of personal freedom, living life your own way and taking action to do what you truly think is right as soon as possible, without wasting any precious time.
>>531455646the Storybook games he does the same, and Tails is also reduced to a nonfighter only there to cower and make Sonic look good. Plus Sonic Unleashed came out in 2008, that's 17 years ago.
I think you just need to face facts that Sonic as a character is shit, especially since the Meta era he has become a shitty leech character who ruined Tails by his existence.
>>531455870the meta era is older than some posters here kek
Jp purism is pure brainrot. Read a book.
>>531455762Which you can't do if you know that you're a bad person. Sonic doesn't have to worry about that.
"You best start believing in the Meta Era, anon. You're in it!"
I was born in 99, what did i miss?
You guys wanna know why Tails isn't cool anymore?
Maekawa. Fucking Maekawa.
That talentless hack characterized him as nothing but a cocksucker to Sonic who sits on his mech and does fuck-all. And somehow has the power to bullshit a fake Chaos Emerald into existence? Then does fuck-all with it ever again.
He took the focus off Tails as an action character, took the focus off Tails as a friendly rival to Sonic (which I am going to clarify here since I get so much flak for this regularly. Knuckles is not a friendly rival for Sonic since they are not friends. Their Advance 3 depiction has Knuckles is the one character Sonic is displeased to be partnered with. They constantly butt heads in an antagonistic role to one another. Sonic and Tails compete for fun and bring out the best in each other. At least, they did before Tails' character was ruined by Maekawa.), and downplayed him. In Heroes they outright assassinate Tails' character by making him a little kid afraid of the supernatural. In the storybook games, he isn't important. He does nothing in 06. Maekawa didn't know how to write Tails and western writers used Maekawa as a template to make Tails into a stand-in for Sally. A tactician who does nothing but toy with a tablet and get kidnapped. Some lines for 'Tails' in colors are riffing on Sally lines in SatAM. Especially with the translator. The Roboticized Tails in Lost World was overtly riffing on Mecha Sally in Archie. It's why Tails pleading for Sonic in Forces is pathetic. For Sally? It'd be fine. She doesn't have powers. She isn't a speedster hero. She's Sonic's girlfriend who relies on him to be the brawns to her brains. For Tails? Pathetic character regression since the audience knows he used to be a hero. You could remove Tails from Colors and replace him with Sally and it'd solve all my problems with that games' plot, hell, just have a tie-in manga or story on Sonic Channel about him going on an adventure with Amy on Earth or something. That'd be fun.
>>531456083everything good.
Until you beat my time on Splash Canyon, your textwall will be hidden.
>>531455648>I'm gonna fuck Sparky girlfriendI don't have a girlfriend, and my character doesn't have a girlfriend either. I'm likely never gonna get a girlfriend, ever, either.
In my project, there are several girls that like my character, but he acts like Sonic with the strong aversion to romance and running away from Amy and stuff, because that's how I unironically am. Except in this case, it's portrayed through the lens of extreme social anxiety rather than coolness, and there are several girls rather than one.
The only reason this even exists in my project to begin with, though, is built on the fact that I legitimately don't want a girlfriend or anything like that, and so I thought it'd be funny for my character to be put in this situation I would hate to be in. But, anyone seeing this is not gonna understand or believe any of that, because like with Sonic, a desire for romance and stuff is always gonna be projected onto the character or me or whatever and so its gonna get interpreted in ways I didn't intend. But whatever.
>>531456139NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't know man, if you have to change a character's personality to the complete opposite then I don't think you actually like the character. Making Tails an edgy chuuni looks comedic.
>>531414808But a fox can!
>>531456259>I legitimately don't want a girlfriend or anything like thatWhy?
>>531455990Any recommendations?
>>531455646THE STORYBOOK GAMES NIGGER???
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SVl7POLus_s&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
>>531456447kek it's just like that scene in Forces
Sam fisher but as G.U.N. agent.
>>531456431The spy who came in from the cold. Kino book about spies and high-stakes.
Sonic getting sad because of Amy in Unleashed was kinda cute.
>>531456310Tails is a kid whose origin literally begins with him deciding "I wanna be cool, too!", and Nine as the "edgy chuuni" variant is literally just Tails' backstory if Sonic never showed up to inspire him.
So it's well within Tails' nature to either aspire to be that, or become that way through his life circumstances to a certain degree. But Tails at his core is pure of heart, very kind and fluffy or whatever.
Whenever Poochies not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "where's poochie?"
Nine is fiona but soft version, so... Fiona light?
Or is Fiona just female tails following the nine timeline? I am fucking with my brain.
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>>531454754most wear posted hear: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/515544828/#515561507
>>531456395Honestly, a root of it is simply 'cause I remember my cousin always accusing me of crushing on insert any random girl's name here, and of course I'd always react to that the exact same way I'd react if any of you called me "autistic" (which I'm not), because if something isn't true, I am going to say its not true every single time. And I got so used to doing that, that denying the possibility of ever even entertaining the idea of it became part of my own sense of identity.
And so when I did actually have a crush on someone, I never had any desire to actually pursue anything or even try to, or whatever. And then somewhere over the years, Sonic's own aversion to romance due to his love of freedom became the perspective I adopted because I also aspire to be as free as Sonic. So now, I just overall don't want anything to do with romance, I want to focus on my project. And I also know that I'm in no position to even think about it anyway. Maybe someday, I'd change my mind, but not until I change my entire life around and become someone that a girl would actually wanna be with, someone that could actually support myself and her, and whatever else. But that day is not today.
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>>531457031Nine if Fiona but with smarts, superpowers, two tails, the ability to spin them in a helicopter motion so he can fly, weapons, goals of his own, agency, a personality, actual accomplishments as a villain...and at least half a soul put into him by his writer.
>>531457212and also not a cheap whore
>>531456131Whoah, calm down, Sparky.
I dreamed up a new IDW villain but someone who hates me was screaming about how it was boring.
But it is a lady who was infected by the Metal Virus but somehow also was not cured with the warp topaz+chaos emeralds combo but also never lost her self awareness
She is fully in control of the virus and simply wants to cause as much death and destruction as possible
Unlike most villains she does not care if Sonic or Shadow kills her she is mad and wants to cause as much damage before she is defeated.
>>531457431I'm not Sparky.
>>531457471and also a sadder backstory and a better series.
and Prime was DOGSHIT.
Silver main problem is that he's expected to be a lot, like you never hear others say to other characters: they can't defeat Infinite lol, they don't have there own game lol, Sonic beat them lol!....
>>531457534Idk being abandoned in prison without parents is pretty heavy stuff
>>531457431That's not me. I like Maekawa's writing and I don't blame him for anything wrong with Tails.
The other day I saw an anon talking about how he could win in a fight against Kit and the idea made me laugh a lot, so I drew a like scenario.
>>531457778Literally every character in archie had a sadder backstory than that. ESPECIALLY Tails and Rotor and every roboticised citizen did. Fiona's just a whiney whore who was spared all of the violence of the war, sat in a room, blamed Sonic for not rescuing her then fucked Sonic anyway and sucked his cock like a simp.
Fiona is literally this meme: https://youtu.be/gQE7H_85CA8?t=41
no good reason for what she does, just Sonic's trophy harem kissup
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>>531456131>Knuckles is not a friendly rival for Sonic since they are not friends.False.
"Friendly Rival" is literally how Knuckles has always been described, and Sonic Advance 3 is showcasing that specific concept.
According to Sonic Channel:
>Theyโre rivals, theyโre fighting buddiesโฆ In the sense of a relationship that โrequires no holding back,โ it may be as close as the one with Tails.
>>531457851kwaj
>kek what a jobber
I need to ask doodle anon to draw tails with the H.E.V. suit from half-life.
Brad Buxer ruined Sonic 3
Westshit solied it.
>>531457197>"autistic" (which I'm not)Wait, you aren't? Are you saying this because you're not diagnosed or do you know for sure that you're not autistic?
>And so when I did actually have a crush on someone, I never had any desire to actually pursue anything or even try toIsn't that letting a stupid joke made by your cousin have an extreme influence on your life though?
>So now, I just overall don't want anything to do with romance, I want to focus on my project. And I also know that I'm in no position to even think about it anyway. Maybe someday, I'd change my mind, but not until I change my entire life around and become someone that a girl would actually wanna be with, someone that could actually support myself and her, and whatever else. But that day is not today.This is fair and understandable.
>>531458102Every single post on this guy's Twitter is him fucking complaining about everything. All he does is spew buzzword after buzzword "owning le epic liberals". Like, dawg. I'm not a fan of trannies either, but if you use Twitter, you're gonna see them. Why go to a place that specifically makes you mad?
Sonic.
>>531458064>Literally every character in archie had a sadder backstory than that. ESPECIALLY [people with longstanding friendships and social networking and support]Ok?
>Sonic teams up with Eggman to fight a kaiju representing some concept like "the inevitability of death" that destroyed some ancient civilization
>this isn't elaborated through the story but instead via Gerald's journals redacted like SCP articles or throwaway lines in TailsTube with inconsistent lore hastily researched from the Sonic wiki
>they have no connection to the central themes like Chaos or the Biolizard; they're just a monster and Sonic beats the shit out of them
I'm not optimistic about the future of storytelling in this franchise if it's done by Sonic Team. This is formulaic Adventure-era cargo cult bullshit.
>>531458470Fiona had those same friends and support, adn a much easier life than they did. She's just a spoiled cunt who goes "you betrayed me!!!" when she was the only one who betrayed anyone. And she blames her "sad life" on Sonic yet sucks his cock and becomes his bitch anyway, kek. She's all talk
>>531458191Sonic 3 isn't that great to begin with, there are some things I like in it but it's not as good as Sonic 1 and 2
>>531458560>they're just a monster and Sonic beats the shit out of themisn't that every sonic game ever?
>>531458203>Wait, you aren't? Are you saying this because you're not diagnosed or do you know for sure that you're not autistic?I've never been diagnosed. And online tests I took told me I'm not, though I know that's not the same thing.
>Isn't that letting a stupid joke made by your cousin have an extreme influence on your life though?I was like 14 at the time, way back then. And, I'm not a very self-assured person in general. Half of it is also, like, I've been a "quiet" person most of my life... But being so quiet means I'm strongly aware that everyone else knew me as "the quiet kid". And so something I was afraid of is if I ever "broke" that status quo, everyone is gonna react in some way. So even the idea of ever being with someone felt the same as if I suddenly shouted out loud one day, that'd be too extreme of an event that would put everyone's eyes on me and I didn't want that.
Besides, I self-insert as Tails and look up to Sonic, clearly I'm not a very self-assured person.
>>531458067I don't care about a Sonic Channel story from the 2020s retconning their dynamic in the actual classic games to align with Ian, Pontac, Graff, and Maekawa's revisionism.
I am not a JP purist. I am an Ohshima and Totoya purist. I am a Real Fan of Classic Sonic as he was written before Maekawa introduced Terrible Writing to this franchise that talentless westerners followed up on.
>>531458661Just like all roasties i'm afraid. a Cumdump with no agency or soul.
>>531458661even though she was a bandit and learned to survive by manipulating people?
Why doesn't Shadow use gun?
>He's grown more powerful and doesn't need them.
He robbed to Starline, clearly that's not the case. Why doesn't he use guns?
>>531458731Tails in the manga is not the same as Tails in the games.
Tails only acted like that in the manga because Nicky occupied Tails' original characterization as a bully victim that wants to be cool and strong.
>>531458731>I don't care about a Sonic Channel story from the 2020s retconning their dynamicThere is no retcon. Sonic & Knuckles have always been friendly rivals after Sonic 3. That's just what Knuckles is. Applying "Friendly Rival" to Tails just because they race sometimes is massively inaccurate, and you should know that if you actually care about Tails.
>>531458838She didn't learn to survive, she sat out the entire war then blamed Sonic for not rescuing her. She was a normie sitting in a room all day then spent a few months in the middle of the comic's timeline CHOOSING to hang out with Bark and Bean's crew. The first people who found her were Mighty and Ray but she ditched them cause she didn't want to hang out with them. Then she sucked Sonic's cock anyway even though her "sad" backstory is his "fault"
>>531458728That makes sense, I understand you Sparky.
>>531458719It's because of westshit
This tailsfag is tiring.
I prefer the other one.
>>531459036And penders is responsible for all of this?
I'm not surprised my girl eat so much.
>>531459276Anon there are several Tailsfags posting right now who is "this" one and who is "the other one"
>>531459276I... am doing what i can.
>>531458996Nowhere did I mention Tails in the manga as what canon game Tails was like.
I merely posted it as an attached image. It was divorced from my point. Though I do quite like Manga Tails I am willing to acknowledge the ways in which he differs.
Sonic and Knuckles have not been 'friendly rivals'. Knuckles is actively distrustful towards Sonic in Adventure 1 and Advance 2 where Dr. Eggman tricks him that Sonic is up to no good. Repeating his earlier distrust towards Sonic. The two are not friends. Rather, rivals. Even their interaction in Advance 3 is shown to be confrontational. The two are not friends as depicted by the original writers for Sonic. The first writer to try and push for 'Sonic and Knuckles as friends' was Maekawa with Heroes. Tails is Sonic's friendly rival, because they're friends who push and challenge each other. It's Sonic's goal to make sure he stays ahead of Tails while Tails desires to keep up. The possibility of Tails keeping up, and matching, but not just that, potentially surpassing Sonic, constantly pushes Sonic to improve and try his best. And Sonic as a constant goal gives Tails something to aspire to. It plays into their flat never ending character arcs. The issue is, Maekawa did not understand this nuance or how to write Tails in this regard. Instead, he wrote Tails as Sonic's 'technical assistant buddy' flanderizing his role as the team's mechanic which got worse as western writers started treating him as a stand-in for Rotor and Sally.
Maekawa is a good writer
Tails fighting both with his body and machines is good
Tails using computers instead is good too
It's okay for Tails to be shy or scared
>>531457584Silver's problem is no one gives a shit about him so any and every idea that would fit Silver they would rather see any other character do
>>531458961>Why doesn't Shadow use guns?Because the millennials who played sth 05 bitched about it for more than a decade.
Shadows power level is irrelevant since characters like spawn use guns all the time despite not needing them.
The tailsfag community.
>LOOK AT THE FOX LOOK AT THE FOX GET DISTRACTED LOOK AT THE FOX GET DISTRACTED....
I sure love JP Sonic, he's so cool!
>>531458838Why do Fionafags keep saying this backstory like she grew up since she was 1 and forced to peddle drugs?
The issue that it references (sonic and mighty and ray escaping a prison) was a real issue at the comic's start under Gallagher. The entire Archie run from start to Reboot is only 1-2 years long chronologically.
Fiona got out and met Fang's sister in Knuckles the Echidna 26, which in Main issue time was like...Sonic 80. Only 40 issues later she joined the FF. So at best Fiona escaped then spent 3 months hanging out with Bean and Bark and Nic. By choice. The first people she met were Mighty and Ray who were nice to her and who she forgave "leaving her behind" because as it was revealed they didn't and Mighty beat up loads of robots to rescue her. Even she admitted it's a bullshit "grudge"
She's a hoe for sonic and turned evil just because an edgy coldsteel sonic showed up and she wanted to be a hoe for him too. That's ALL the reason, even Scourge said so.
>>531459834Okay, but still, 99% of the fights Shadow gets in he fucking loses in IDW. If he's so weak to job to a Zombot, and Starline. You'd think he'd start packing heat because he can't handle things.
>>531459936I agree then (although I like American Ice Cap)
It's not my only problem with the game though, I find the zones generally boring as well. I'm glad it gave us Senoue's music and Knuckles and made Tails fly in multiplayer though
>>531459928Way past cool!
>>531459561>Kukku invasion>No Kukkus on the cover
>>531459561>Sonic and Knuckles have not been 'friendly rivals'.YES THEY HAVE. What is the matter with you!? As I've already pointed out, "Friendly Rivals" is what Knuckles has ALWAYS been after Sonic 3 & Knuckles' story. He is a "rival" character that is also a friend. Sonic & Knuckles not getting along and often butting heads is what "Friendly Rivals" MEANS, according to Sonic Team . That is the official canon and always has been.
Tails is not a "friendly rival" to Sonic. Their dynamic is not a rivalry. Tails pushing himself to keep up with, even race, Sonic is not a "rivalry" like Sonic's dynamic with Knuckles is. Tails is Sonic's sidekick, partner, ally, first and foremost.
Tails is the Sidekick, Knuckles is the Rival, these are separate things. Both are Sonic's friends, but have massively different dynamics according to these roles. Tails is trying to catch up to Sonic, Knuckles challenges and competes with Sonic.
Imagine being so much of a JP Faggot that you consider MICHEAL FUCKING JACKSON to be inferior to bug eater music.
>>531459796Sonic got his knives, Shadow gets a flying stage, Knuckles get his enemy, Amy gets his lore
I guess Tails should just get his uwu personality and Cream should get psychokinesis but with a lot of chao helping her and it's perfect
Love together Love together Livin' on the floor
kimi o Watch me by mirete iru no saa baby
>>531459994Yes but calm down i don't have so much attachment about a virtual character.
>>531460271y-you don't understand, get filtered, how can you not cry at this masterpiece:
On a Sunday, riding my bike
I'm honest, I notice, different things that look alike
On a Sunday, riding my bike
I'm honest, I notice, many many things that look alike
Tuesday, Wednesday, so is Friday
How 'bout moons and headlights?
What I say and what I think
A-B-C-D-E-F...
Imagine letting westniggers compose your music.
Imagine ever being a weeb.
Give Tails a gravity + force gadget and you will have taken everything from Silver
I do understand the feelings of a Persian Cat
(But the Sphinx looked so cute, I had to shave it)
He reminds me of parsley when he's standin' there alone
(Makes me wanna be his speciality)
I guess I'm just a self-centered girl (Mmm-hmm)
But there are nights that I have trouble going to sleep (A-ha)
>>531460858No wonder it fucking sucks so hard.
>>531460971damb, jap lyrics are so DEEP
Imagine composing walls of text EVERY DAY to prove your point in a shitty franchise nobody cares about but fat smelly nerds, and at the end of the day said nerds forget the conversation entirely, only to restart the day after.
>>531460271I prefer Senoue's music to anything Micheal Jackson has worked on, which by the way doesn't actually include Sonic 3. Micheal Jackson's input for Sonic 3 was most likely just a few vocal samples. The Sonic 3 music people attribute to Micheal Jackson was actually composed by Brad Buxer, who is one of the guys who took care of Micheal Jackson's music equipment or something, and composed for a bunch of other singers. For me this isn't an east vs west thing, I just have my own taste. I don't care how popular Micheal Jackson might have been, my opinion doesn't depend on the tastes of other people
Shoot AOSTH fags
Burn SATAM fags
Skin Archie fags
Throw acid at Fleetway fags
Stomp Underground fags heads
Drown Boom fags
Eviscerate Prime fags
Cut in half vertically (starting at the crotch) IDW fags
Impale anally Movie fags and letting them rot
>>531461198This but to ocfags, jp purists and unironic shippers.
>>531460883Technically Tails having to rearrange things and items, attacking with thinking and precision while solving puzzles would fit him
>>531461168It's very important for westniggers to know their input was a detriment.
>>531461168You're pretty reasonable, so I will kindly accept your opinion, but disagree due to my own taste. Good on you for having a level head and appreciation for another style of music. You're a real one.
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>>531461321It's funny how this could happen, next line of focus highly could be Tails, whit them taking on metroid idea, the could just kill Silvers interest forever with the movies.
Kill Sonic 3 and CD US ost enjoyers.
I like seeing new outfits for Surge.
Why do you lot praise Boom? Boom is anti wind
>>531461703Because it's fun.
>>531461886>boom>funnyfart gags
>>531461703Because the Crush 40 cover of Sonic Boom is amazing
>>531462007Mania and Origins are worse than west garbage.
They're 90s erasure.
Destruction of Actual Existing Classic Sonic to replace it with a revisionist history where the games had a timeline of events consistent with Modern portrayals of the characters that erases the existence of supplementary regional material.
A crime to the franchise that spits in the face of previous compilations' respect for the series and its real history. Contributing to people not understanding real existing Classic Sonic and instead associating early Sonic with classicslop.