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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00
https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020

>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers
https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA
https://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU
https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
https://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc

>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuM
https://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_g
https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk

>Guided weapons statistics
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78

>What tanks have thermals and their generations
https://thunderview.net/thermals/

>Someone sending you runes?
https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

>Dank Bants
https://files.catbox.moe/iufhcc.txt

Reminder: stacking boosters is against the spirit of the game

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vao5I9lLGE

catch my vikhr...

dead leviathan dead general

>>531476492
>BBC Russia

>>531477108
>see 3 letters
>instantly thinks of big black cock
>OMG THEY ARE SO GAY FOR THESE THINGS I JUST THOUGHT OF IN MY BRAIN
>I'M DEFINITELY NOT A FAGGOT

Someone posted some spanish dogfight guide about the lines you take in fights and I can't remember what it was. Anyone have the link again?

I am squidley

fuck off phly

>>531314884

>>531478298
>china makes cap infantry
true frfr
they be bitches

do I bring JDAM or Paveway?
which is easier to use in actual matches?

>>531478298
>play game
no

Should I grind the 9.0 or 8.0 Strv 103?

The 8.0 seems to be better since it's facing much weaker opponents?

>>531478298
>top guns

>>531478298
>cope tech
vftf?

>>531477894
Not familiar with the exact text you have in mind but just google air-combat maneuvering manual or something similar. Blesse's No Guts No Glory is pretty good too.

>>531479463
Trans-90Male

Play the M103

>>531478298
>problem engine
kaput
>>531479531
what vehicle is that?

>>531478298
>iris bots
>russia great true

>>531478298
>match german without thunder cas
Please, for the love of God. I beg you.

>>531479141
wuts the difference?

>>531481273
C has better round and slightly better armor against HEAT.

>>531481273
One gets a special ikea cope cage in the front thats supposed to catch atgms but it's not modeled in the game that well

whats the next battleass vehicle?

Is the proto Cheese Wedge (Strv 103-0) any good?

>>531482103
cute little fences he got - ⩊ -

am I blind or is there no way to check whether the weapon system has dual feed or not?

>>531481273
8.0 one gets an APDS. Annoying to deal with, but slightly inaccurate at long range.

9.0 one gets laser rangefinder and APFSDS, and its an absolute nightmare to face if its sniping you from cover.

>>531482363
358mm apds at 8.0 looks pretty bad from where I'm sitting

>>531482363
Its alright. If you get a map that enables you to snipe. Most 8.0 rating maps are very small so it can have bit of a tough time, but the trolly angled armor on it will certainly ruin a lot of peoples days in a downtier.

Play the T-10M

>>531479141
8.0, at that BR the armor works well and there's a much better lineup at 8.0 than 9.0.

>>531483836
the 103A also gets an LRF at 8.0

>chinks get a t34-85 with better engine, better transmission and a free dshk at 5.7
>dogshit regular t34-85 is also 5.7
fucking why?

If a bush in the environment can block your vision, a bush decoration should block you vision too. Simple as.

>>531485418
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>531485073
Didn't you know? China won ww2 singlehandedly :^

>>531485073
Every single Chinese vehicle in the game is under-tiered to appease the hive.

>>531485418
It does in sim

>>531485852
IT SHOULD EVERYWHERE ELSE ALSO REMOVE PLAYER MARKERS FROM REALISTIC THAT SHIT IS NOT REALISTIC YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN PIG

>>531485073
>foldered vehicle
>minor upgrades
>functionally same gun and armor
how much do you actually see that particular model

Top tier Swedebros, what MBTs are you running? The 3 122s just seam straight up better than the fin 2A6 should I even bother crewing it?

>>531485418
TRVKE but bush sissies will quit the game if that happens. Arcade gigachads remain unaffected either way.

>>531486517
CV90120
Strv 122B PLSS
Strv 122A
Strv 122B+
In that order
I don't play finshit so idc about the 2a6

why is there always femboy talk in the chat while everyone is climbing in air rb?

>>531486908
Yea that's been my lineup + CV90 MK IV because I love it and i'm trying to spade it, but it's not really good enough for 12.0

>>531486987
Swedes on your team

>>531487246
if you have big brain you can use it to smack spaa from your spawn

>>531486987
It's just the kind of degenerates that ARB attracts. GRB Chads talk about manly stuff.

>>531486987
russians in your team

>>531486987
americans in your team

>kill 3 niggers with Tiger UHT
>return to helipad to rearm
>as I take off a Ka-52 with russian nickname spawns and immediately teamkills me
>we lose
Why are vatniks such fucking subhumans, holy shit

>>531488003
tiger uht did the same thing to me once

>>531487471
i've seen more femboy talk in grb than arb

best lineup in the game reserved exclusively for the privileged swedish players

>>531489112
That's not 7.7 France though.

>>531489112
based Chud vehicle 90 main

>back to back 10+ kill games against the dumbest unluckiest fuckers possible
no idea what i did to appease the snail today

>>531478298
>sherman gay discount immediately
shitley wordcloud

>>531479675
I'm making my way to it

>>531489112
>>531489339
Anyone have the CV9035? Is it worth throwing money at (on sale of course) Not that I need another CV90, but I want one.

>still no East German T-54
Why?

>>531478298
>france heavy
mon Dieu

>>531491178
Good.

>>531491209
damage of the 35 is so inconsistent it makes the 30 better in every way

>>531479675
Maybe when the AP shell stops being shit.

>>531491414
I don't know, maybe because there's still no domestic T-54A and T-54B in the tech tree.

>>531485418
It does. Except in Realistic, because in realistic your gun sight is inside the barrel.

I like being anti-air CAS
it's like playing ARB but against retards who eat my missiles for free
no countermeasures, no return fire, no reaction at all
they probably don't even know what the RWR is

fakest and most fantasious gear ever

He's on your team, you should be happy they capped another point.

>>531494307
a tiger 1 shot him with he

>>531493343
the fake part is the one where it isn't a foldered meme vehicle light tank at a higher BR with its contemporaries

aa-sama... i kneel

>>531494658
Contemporaries like the 5.4 ZBD63 or the 5.3 Bosvark, both lower BR?

>still no GAZ and Ural trukks

>>531494869
do you mean to imply those shouldn't also go up? because they should definitely get raped and go up and if they can't stand the heat then we should hard split WW2 and Cold War matchmaking so they can be decompressed and BR'd appropriately in the latter matchmaking pool

>>531494767
>first day of new patch when t29 was added
>sands of sinai
>friendly t29 first to die, sniped across the map
>wut??
literally same shit happened as in webm by t-35-85 and around ~1.4km. I would've been pissed if my new fancy 40 dollar tank got annihilated like this on day one

>>531492370
Okay but consider the following

>>531494767
why do shot traps never seem to happen at historically reliable angles in shots taken by good players but always seem to work when shitters whiff into the far blue yonder and magically bounce straight in instead of shattering or volumemeing or pissing their pen away on the first deflection?

In for what? it's the worst new SPAA isn't it?

>>531494767

>team gets destroyed in 5 minutes
>I circle the airfield as to drag out the match as much as possible to get the most rp I can
I'm surprised it works, I even get wins sometimes because the whole enemy team just focuses on me instead of the AA guns

>>531495979
I think the spyder is actually the worst, i've never seen anyone get a kill with it

>>531495982
germans are TERRIBLY hard to use.
>Ostwind HE can overpressure the M10 and M36

>>531496148
Doesn't circling the airfield kill your activity % since you're not doing anything?

>>531495730
>kino WoT schizo project that's actually plausible
>even seems to be in line with real historical trends or resemble some other real thing
>it's completely 100% fake bullshit invented from whole cloth
too many such cases

>>531493343
just wait for them to add the new 3.5 wunderwaffen russian AA

Why do racists always seem to think SPAA should be defenseless free kills?

>>531496563
They shouldn't be tank destroyers.

The 104G is fun but its whole purpose doesn't work at br11. I'm not fast enough to outrun most peers here and I cant turn fight. What do

>>531496365
I still think it'd be really cool to have a medium tank that has good mobility and firepower, and you can add an optional module that kills a lot of that mobility but adds a ton of armor, essentially transforming it into a heavy tank so you have two different playstyles in one tank

>>531496563
because they should be
SPAA get free kills from shooting planes
tanks get free kills from shooting SPAAs

Is anything else in this tab even worth upgrading?

>>531496828
Higher br 104 is more about map awareness. You need to know what's going on and where, and rat out. Catch people unaware and zoom out. Don't try to dogfight.

>>531497223
What i've been doing, but the zoom out doesnt work as much when mig-23s seem to outrun me. Maybe full upgraded ill be able to.

>>531497091
Not really unless you're some sort of WW2 bomber obsessed degenerate.

>>531497072
>tanks get free kills from shooting SPAAs
my lvkv 9040c says no

Oof, ouch, ow.

>>531496735
They shouldn't even be allowed AP belts

>hey anon, here's your Gepard orders; get in the Gepard and go shoot down helicopters
>by the way we're going to supply you with a boxcar full of AP belts just in case you need to take out a battalion of heavy armor

get the fuck out

>picks the one SPAA that was literally (literally) designed specifically to have an apds belt available exclusively to destroy tanks and apcs

>>531497072
SPAA are just free kills for planes actually

>>531497803
give LAV M791 (apds) NOW

>>531497803
but they did pretty invariably get that boxcar full of AP belts specifically for self defense against enemy armor?

>>531497091
if you have nothing better to spend points, do vitality
accuracy/precision increase the ai effectiveness a lot, but they still only fire within 400m
that can be useful if you're dogfighting in a divebomber and can give you a lucky kill from time to time, or someone managed to sneak up on you before firing (rare but it happens)

g tolerance is essentially pointless because the only time they black out is if you're pulling 4g on a few specific bombers, and in those scenarios you're going to be dead anyway

>>531497803
>>531498325
Gepards were allotted forty (40) APDS rounds in the emergency self defense belts in the blisters on the side of the turret.
>>531498325
spawn a light tank nigger

>>531498436
or alert you if someone managed to sneak up*

>>531498650
>emergency self defense belts
how come its so easy to ammorack that shit?

>want to grind jap air
>forced to research thaislop
fucked up desu

>>531498992
idk I never rack those since I aim low center hull
Regardless of how much I hate SPAAggots (spaa when they're not shooting planes) auto-cannon rounds do rack a little too easily. The idea of a shell passing through a single feed of ammo causing a total sympathetic detonation like on the Marders is not based in reality.

>>531498650
>Gepards were allotted forty (40) APDS rounds in the emergency self defense belts in the blisters on the side of the turret.
It's just a dual feed system, where the second belt was smaller and filled with AP rounds for self defense. You could just pull a lever to swap it.

>>531499401
>Forced to research aircraft with counter measures
The horror.

Why the hell does germany get an su22 with R60m at 10.0 in ground when the russian one at 10.0 in ground only get r60, and no plane with R60M is 10.0 only this one, they all sit at 10.3, and to top it off it also has the best ground loadout of any 10.0 CAS jet?

>>531499460
>The idea of a shell passing through a single feed of ammo causing a total sympathetic detonation like on the Marders is not based in reality.

scarcely matters. In practice a crew can't and won't remain inside light vehicle that gets penned.

>>531500005
Oh ya and compared to the russian one it gets CM + an extra KH29.

>>531500195
sissy westoid crews maybe
true MANLY CHAD heroes of the communist ideal like Russia and China will fight to the end

>Autoloaders make sound
Since when?

gepards should receive 35mm apfsds in the big belt and stay at the same br

jew tanks instantly bailing out when hit with anything bigger than a rock like in real life when?

>>531497803
Show us on the doll where Gepard touched you
Raped frog-kun

>germany

>>531495979
Well the missile is great, ammo capacity sucks, but what the FUCK is this chassis? Isn't this think 30 hp/ton?

Waiter!
Waiter!

Gepards should recieve full FAPDS load and be downtiered

>>531499513
I never said otherwise

>>531498436
>>531498745
thank you anon

>>531500005
Both Su-22 are nearly identical. Are you looking at the Su-17 instead of the squadron Su-22?

>>531501871
how do I get the chink one?

https://e621.net/posts/5002469
Ah, Russia

>>531502417
>chink
Close. Finnish. Play planes, do well.

>>531502713
>Gaijin 77
>War Thunder 75
lol

>>531503683
>have to play shitden
I'm good

>>531505008
No it's either Sweden or Finland.

It's Italy and Britain to get to Rank III, actually, and then US and Germany to get the decal.

>>531485418
you don't play sim do you

When SL gacha?

has the new battleass rewards leak yet

Do you guys think Germany will get a Swiss ground subtree next patch or are they only doing air?

what are the chances of this mother fucker going on sale?

>>531508373
We don't even have the Thai ground tree yet, doubt they would rush the Swiss
Although they have more non-controversial copy paste options than Thailand so who knows

>>531508373
i was gonna say they're gonna finish the other subslops they started but im not kidding anyone am i?
expect a 1-2 genuinely new vehicles (that one TD and Pz.68) 4-5 high tier copy pastas they can shoehorn in at minimal effort (possibly premium) in a patch or 2

>>531508859
50/50 either it does or it doesn't

>contrails at 2500 meters
is this the power of propshitters?

>>531508859
>50 cals at that BR
good if you want to chip the paint I guess

>>531510103
it has good missiles thougheverbeit, you can cuck miggers with it who arguably have even worst weapons in terms of how hard they are to aim

>>531506464
This. I'm full of 14 million SL that I need to blow right now.

>>531508859
why would it suddenly go on sale?

>>531511253
idk maybe there's a german holiday coming up or something

>in me t18 57
>spot pe8
>send meatball
>win

>>531510103
4 missiles at 8.7 is nothing to scoff at and 1200 rounds of API-T from 4 guns is more than serviceable
It's a good plane

>mutts keep bringing up F15 kill to death ratio in arguements
>look up the conflicts
>Fighting mig 19, 21, and 23 99% of the time
Wow impressive. Seal clubbing in real life too it seems.

>>531513649
>Seal clubbing in real life too it seems
crazy isn't it? f-15a should be at a lower br than any r60m slinger for historical reasons

server is down

>>531513649
You forgot to mention they had AWACS up 24/7 and were fighting 3rd worlder goat fuckers larping as pilots in 30+ year old jets equipped with the cheapest surplus missiles if they even had any at all.

>>531476298 (OP)
>airspawn on top of the mountain
>exposed to the blue spawn
which spawn did the enemy pick 3 out of 3 times?

>>531515157
literal fermenting garbage cope

>>531515157
some much cope in one image
impressive

>>531515361
>>531515379
You guys in the NAFO discord too? We aren't supposed to post this close together or it looks bad.

>posts cope
>get called out
>starts screaming about boogeymen

Me? I play ever nation.

Su 22 worthy opponent to F 18

>>531515618
How is it cope? What exactly is impressive shooting down second gens with amraams and AWACS support?

>>531515157
>trannycope
>trannycope
>starwars reference
updoot for you m'gentlesir!

REDFOR derangement syndrome is going to make shitley take a heaping dump in the three for the next four to eight hours I hope you're happy

>>531513649
Hard to fight a peer airforce when there aren't any tbf. Maybe we'll get lucky someday and get invaded by aliens but barring that...

how do i search for a replay with a match id?

I refuse to play city maps, I simply refuse
sorry! (I'm not sorry)

Air Arkaden is crazy, these players just LET me kill them
The hardest part is maneuvering fast enough and having enough ammo to get the most out of the turkey shoot

Attica is so much fun
shoutout to the random F-15E that intercepted like 3 IRIS-Ts and sacrificed himself on my nuke run: I kneel, KING

>>531519581
It's ok for you enjoy it, but I don't want to play on it ever.

Kind of embarrassing if all your country can field is second gen desu.

is there a way to follow a missile in sensor view in replays, I haven't found a way to but there's probably some obscure as fuck keybind

my jet can totally beat up your jet it just has to be simulated in a vacuum solely on the terms i make up with no outside influences whatsoever just you wait and see guys

>>531510285
>aim-9b
>good missile
Nigga what?

Nice argument, however I've already pictured a scene in my head where I'm calm and handsome and you're ugly and angry.

iglas for the mi28a when?

>>531522686
You have a 30mm death ray. There isn't a single fight that iglas win you that couldn't be better handled with atakas or cannon

>>531521603
9Bs at 8.7 are better than 9Js at 11.0, hope this helps

>>531523195
that's not how it works, iglas force the opponent to bleed speed, and they are good for third partying as well

Could minesweeper flails stop HEAT?

>>531523195
i still want the iglas

>start playing Tiger 2 lineup again
>instantly have fun

So it's that easy?

naval truly is the gentleman's game mode, both sides only shooting at AI for that sweet RP

>>531523992
I mean the Mi-28a is already a busted lobby-destroying monster. 16 atakas plus igla racks would really have no business at 10.7

>>531524520
>sweet RP
To what end? To continue shooting AI?

>>531523301
Not really

>>531524702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7pKjTfrETI

>>531524579
its atakas
they're shit even if you strap a thousand of them

>>531524702
to get more SL for gambling boxes

If I didn't have the relaxing sounds of sasha grey getting her throat fucked out i'd be livid. dead fucking game.

>>531525519
>EU in 3:47am

Retard I'm at work

>>531525502
And then?

>>531524993
still the best rack of ATGMs anywhere near the BR. what even comes close? you get more real missiles than a kiowa gets APKWs plus the best turret anywhere near the BR.

will I take iglas? sure. do i need them? eh

>chink subhuman camping the nuke plane in his heli
delete them from the game

>>531525885
and then get excited for next update

>>531521603
>be bad

I'm a casual who isn't an autist that know everything about aircrafts and just thinks jets are cool, with that said, what generation of jets is rank 7 in general?

>>531527653
the 2nd worst one

>not a single plane spawns in 3 consecutive games
>4th game had one enemy plane spawn that i didn't get to kill
>not a single plane spawns in the next 3 games after

I don't remember the last time I didn't see an enemy plane at 9.0 or 9.3 before this. It's just sus as fuck I don't know how else to put it. I slot in one SPAA and 3 planes into a lineup and magically no enemy planes spawn. I mean seriously when was the last time (you) guys played a battle where the enemy team had a combined 40+ deaths and not a single one of them brought in a plane? Hell not even a single drone? A fucking drone?!

>>531527853
which is

>>531523953
Could minesweeper flails destroy light vehicles?

>>531527932
>blow up 45 tanks
>not a single revenge bomb
am i playing a diffrent fucking game?
how does that even happen lmao
9.X feels unplayable to me because of CAS

>>531528192
4.5

This update is a fucking mess of bugs and poorly made vehicles and mechanics, but I have to give the snail credit, the new AA vehicles are one of the best things they've done in years. They fixed top tier balance, made SPAA much more playable through all tiers, and the additional vehicles spread around the map gives a great vibe, coming through a forest to see a CLAWS launcher hidden in a bush is great, or seeing an IRST TEL on the top of a hill.

They just need to make maps bigger so you have room to properly position them.

>>531528856
>rank 7
>gen 4.5
anon are you retarded?

>>531527653
Rank 7 is primarily Gen 3 jets

>>531529389
su-27 is gen 4, sorry I don't play other inferior trees. I only kill them.

>>531529479
Su-27 is rank 8 dipshit

>be me in my jumbo
>3 fat german tanks in my way
>somehow i manage to disable the cannon of all of them
>I happily drive towards them to claim my kills.
>from behind comes out a faggot bong piece of shit and steals all the 3 kills before i could get close to them

i hate this shit, it happens all the time

Why can't flamethrowers heat up hulls and kill crew? If a flamethrower tank unloads their flamethrower on your tank long enough it'd probably even start to melt the armor, although I imagine the crew would lose consciousness from heat stroke and even die from overheating well before that.

>>531531131
What happens to me is there being a little rat waiting for me to flank around and it kills me. Nearly every time I move in for the kill I get blown the fuck up.

>>531529657
potato tomato

>>531531167
Napalm can’t melt rolled homogeneous armor.
The crew would actually die of asphyxiation or carbon monoxide poisoning.

>>531531167
are you 5 years old?

>>531532059
Do you think that napalm-fueled fire (or whatever fuel the TO-55 uses) just does absolutely nothing to a tank when a molotov cocktail is an infamous method of scoring a mobility kill on tanks in the real world?
But in game you can't choke out the engine, you can't damage tracks, crews are somehow totally unaffected by the heat and lack of fresh airflow/oxygen, they just shrug off continuous fire as if it's nothing

>>531531167
why do you expect realism in this shitty game ? do you think that in real life a tank would still be operable in 4 seconds after disabling half of its crew ?

>>531532269
Pretty sure you can kill engine.

>>531531417
you can do something against it at least, you can't do anything against the assholes in your team who steal your kills and ruin your battles, just call them faggots in chat and then get chat banned by gayshit

>>531532269
it takes over 2500 degrees to melt basic steel
napalm doesn't get anywhere close to that

molotovs only work because the fuel reaches into the engine bay and cooks it, thus disabling it
if you lit a tank up in fire it would take a significantly long time before the metal starts to heat up enough to be an issue for the crew, which you should know as an adult

>>531523953
>>531528605
>deploy mine flail, creates constant eternally existent projectiles just like flamethrowers producing bullets with a particle cloud around them
>revenge of the server tickrate causes the pseudo-bullets to either ignore armor or update themselves and continue existing right after a deflection while still clipped in a vehicle
>ULTRA NIGGER WHIPPER 9000 trivially and instantaneously gibs any superheavies from any angle from anywhere within reach of the array
Gaijin would, wouldn't they?

>>531531131
>>531531417
>>531532550
>be handcrushed niggerjumbo
>have skill issue
>be punished for it
>lose
And?

>>531524993
atakas are great

>>531532990
I cannot imagine it would take that long for the ambient heat to rise to the level the crew is barely able to focus on actually doing their job (40-45c) and once the ambient heat in the tank is around 60c you're pretty much done
Should be a blackout mechanic like pilot G forces, after a certain amount of time you lose the UI and go into the faded blackout screen (but can still move, fire, etc) and if it continues your crew loses consciousness but has a period of time where if someone shoots the flamethrower tank they can recover
Given enough time they just die though
It's not like you'd die to flamethrower tanks very often, it'd be more expedient to just shoot you with the main gun but I guess if they track you and then you shoot out their barrel they can maybe cook you alive instead of having to retreat and repair

>>531533998
>cooling system completely negates it
As fucking if, handheld swede monkeys making shit up
>nuh-uh I activated my cooling system and the heat doesn't do anything!!!

>>531533998
the liveleak watermark is there because there were no survivors

speaking of, did a*ton ever give an explanation on why napalm bombs have HALF the reward multiplier compared to rockets and normal bombs that can actually destroy other things? is it like this simply to reduce the chink bot gains?

>>531534968
shut up you fucking racist

>>531534968
because they can destroy twice the bases

KF-21 when?

Can I REALLY spawn in RB, drop my entire bomb load onto one base, and then J out and go next? Is grinding air REALLY that easy?

>>531534115
>has NBC protection
>but hurr durr fier will heat you up

>>531533876
it would take about 3-5 minutes
which in warthunder is extraordinarily long and not viable at all
fire bombs go out in like 12 seconds so you need to keep reapplying fire, and generally it takes about 30-40 seconds for players to pinpoint you and take you out especially if you're drawing attention to yourself with something like fire

>>531536090
fire bombs and flamethrowers fire*

Just give Brazil it's own tree already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFD89uftcQ

>>531535698
you have to land and repair if you don't want to lose SL
also, bombers are free kills and everyone will target you

>>531536412
the ground tree would be... interesting

>>531536412
The Super Tucano alone should be an excuse to shove Brazil innto the game since it's Plane Game after all, it's better than anything made in the 21st century.

>>531536567
All I care about is making good RP and getting through the tree quickly

protip: if you taskkill wt fast enough after seeing the map pop up you can avoid crew lock and booster usage

I just queue with another nation.

>>531535698
>>531537398
you need to make sure someone gets the kill credit or you get crew locked
matchmaking will probably put you into games with other bombers on your team and a shit ton of enemy interceptors so it will be incredibly difficult to reliably get points
but if you don't mind have zero fun and going bankrupt with repair costs then sure i guess it works
lots of chink bots do that

>>531538063
I'd just turn around and dive towards my base after dropping my bombs
If I don't get intercepted/my fighters score free kills peeling people off me then I'll land, re-arm, and bomb another base
Otherwise gg I go next

I really hate the CV9030. It's at the perfect BR to be decent sometimes but abysmal dogshit the rest of the time.

what is this thing? the churchill has one too.

I fucking love my shitty little IRIS-T launcher.

This is actually beyond hilarious. All I have to do in order to not get a battle with planes is exclusively bring SPAA.

>>531537127
What would be it's br? 10.7 since it's a better A-10?

>>531541826
sounds about right, it'd be shit in AirRB just like the A-10 and good as CAS, just like IRL.

So uh is the mig23 (all of them) actually interceptors and not fighters? Should I just avoid dogfights at all cost?

>>531536412
Best we can do is shove it into the American tree

>>531541535
That's how she goes. It's silly at this point.

>>531536412
>>531544637
how many unique vehicles in the latinx tree?

>maybe ill try china
>look at tree
>its just all copy paste
>domestic stuff is literally russian copypaste with a few changes
Chink bros... you gonna make anything yourselves?

>>531545243
Less than the inevitable NSWP tree

>face APDS,HEAT and kingtigers only with my 6.7-7.3 heavy lineup
>unlock the m103
>gun has better balistics,HEAT and a rangefinder
>2 straight aces and tanking every shot for my team with a stock 103 in RB
Gyat zamn this tank is so fucking good,i can finally pen those trolly late IS

>>531545673
anything China makes is based on stolen blueprints and it’s funny when they base their developments on early experimental blueprints that were never tested because China isn’t gonna safety proof anything so when they make an amphibious lander tank based on rejected blueprints it just sinks in the river
China cannot innovate anything on their own, imagination died for that whole culture when communism took over

>try to have fun
>here is a map that is terrible
>in a max up tier
>against broken vehicles
>that turns into a spawn camp
>end up not having fun

honestly can't think of any reason to keep playing this game outside of being addicted

>>531547209
do THIS
>>531537605

>>531547209
I have fun by loading up only smokes and making the whole lobby seethe when I piss smoke all over the map
it's even better with top tier tanks that have ESS

>>531545915
I get rekt in my M103 all the time but I want to like it-- its such a cool tank. Maybe its cause my crew is shit and its not spaded? Havent played in a long while tho

>>531548421
>keep your distance,you have a long reload but a great gun,no brawling
>remember the spots that little cars flank
>only push when teammates are around,otherwise fall to the sniper role
yes it works,i don't even have the crew spaded and i got 2 aces,it has decent acceleration but not so good top speed,a great gun and great armor(when not facing heat)

>>531545243
a lot more than any other suggestion you fags bring up ever

>im hungry
Vftf?

>>531550464
Unironically any american tank

why are they like this

>>531550464
me163

>sit in spawn waiting for planes to spawn in
>no planes ever spawn in
>end up being completely useless
>still win damn near every match
>sweat my balls off in the m60a3
>planes all over the sky
>lose damn near every match
So this is what it feels like to be a conspiracy nut with this game because it sure is perplexing how different the match making is...

dead general
dead game

Call me dense if you must, but how exactly am I supposed to kill the convoys in the helicopter PvE mode if they all have AAA that can outrange even my shitty atgms?

>>531554674
Low, fast, autocannon

>>531554674
that's the neat part

What in the call of duty fuck even is this map?

howdy

Somehow managed to get an ace in this fat piece of shit

>>531555743
reason 1042 i no longer play more than 1 battle a week

>>531555743
the #1 most liked map
95% of the playerbase are sub 70 IQ subhumans

Propgers, what's the best WWII-era gun? Presumably a 20mm cannon, but which one?
And on that topic - would you rather have 1x nose cannon, 2x wing cannons, 4x wing .50 cals or 8x wing 7.62/8mm?

>mi28 is completely immune to any amount of ir missiles (even ones with DL/IOG) in a 360 degree view
so when does this get fixed?

>>531556403
And how is imprecise DL/IOG going to help a completely blinded IR missile that can't see shit in the terminal guidance phase?

Is the A4-E really that broken? The 9.3 ground BR seems really bad, America has no 9.3 lineup and it doesn't have 9.7 either, you just jump right to 10.3/10.7, I guess 10.0 is viable IF you have a bunch of event vehicles to pad your lineup
At that point might as well just jump to the A10-A or A-7D, no?

>you're not allowed to shoot down my helicopter... just because, okay?

good night squidley

>>531557397
are you trying to imply that just because the missile is blind (most modern IR aren't even affected by DIRCM in this way anyway, especially not imaging IR missiles like IRIS/9X) that holding a constant DL lock would have no effect on a non manuvering helicopter?
btw a lot of missiles at that br loft anyway so the DIRCM wouldn't even be able to see the missile unless you angled your helicopter fucking 50 degrees up

why doesn't anyone ever want to admit this game is dog shit?
>b-b-b-but no competition
still dog shit sir

>>531558875
People do admit it, do you not see the constant complaining about the dogshit gamemodes on virtually all discussion platforms? Hell, the game's unofficial taglines are "Almost fun" and "Always 'if' but never 'is'".

>>531558875
I think this game is dogshit, but I still play it. I guess I'm just a big stupid baka.

>get hit going full speed
>pop smoke while rolling down a hill
>start repairs while hidden in my wide stream of smoke
>chink does a cute little mg fire into the smoke right on my side hull below the turret before one hitting me with his chink cannon
JUST BAN ALL THE FUCKING BUGMEN RIGHT FUCKING NOW GAY JEW
ALL OF THEM CHEAT
100% OF THEM
BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>531559676
I do this to people all the time thoughever

>>531559676
Thermals can see through ESS smoke, sorry

>player with terrible stats in a plane
>critical!
>player with good stats in a plane
>severe damage!
make it less obvious is all i ask

>severely damaged aircraft kill counted

Every battle ending in a spawn camp just gets so God damn old...

>>531561147
what if you could spawn in the enemy spawn if there are enemies in your spawn's detection range

>bleeds all speed in turn
>can't even turn well, can't aim at high speed
>anemic missiles
>can only go fast and not even that much faster than other planes 0.7BR below
name the aircraft

>>531561441
any plane that is not the rafale or eurofighter

>>531561441
You are playing an F104 Starfighter

>>531561441
MiG-29

>>531561429
Just make it so tanks start taking damage while in the spawn the same as if they were under water. Or do the return to battle field explosions. Haven't the faintest why they don't do something.

>>531561823
What if the spawns had entrenched AI tanks that shoot at anything that enters their LoS? They'd be placed so they can't see out of the spawn and kill anyone actually playing the map, but as soon as you enter the enemy spawn you start getting farmed by laser accurate aimbot tanks in hull-down positions that give very little kill rewards
Also maybe there are some pre-prepared hull-down spawn positions that players can manually choose to spawn in to give them an even further advantage on top of spawn protection

>play sim
>crew doesn't speak simlish

>10.7 BR winrate went up for US after the M1 KVT sale
I keep saying level 100's are worse than babby noobs but nobody ever believes me

>>531562646
I'm level 100 and I'm better than you

M7 Bradley when?

I fucking can't to grind on this piece of trash anymore. It doesnt belong in 11 with what it has and what it goes against.

I shouldve gone down the MiG tree

I shouldve rolled US

>>531564575
go swiss tree and use the F5E to grind out rank 8

>>531564857
Is it actually any good? Seems to lack in missiles. Also how's the mirage?

>>531564575
You know you can, uhh grind another jet right? You don't get the 10% efficient bonus but 10% isn't worth playing something you hate vs something you enjoy
If you didn't actually fully research another line (MIG or Swiss line) then idk what you did with your tree

>>531565903
I have the f58, I think I'll go down that line starting tomorrow. Just figured they wouldn't be that bad but I should've done my research.

>>531565321
Yes it's very good, the missiles are secondary it's primarily a gunfighter. You just dogfight everything you see and shred them with your 560 rounds of 20mm. As long as you stay above 400 mph none of the doritos can keep up with you they either run away or die.

>>531561691
Close! It's the F-100! But that answer is also equally correct.

>>531566380
Let me guess; it's the FRENCH F-100D

vehicles for this feel?

>>531567559

>>531567559
>Israel has done more to assist Russia than Ukraine, Putin called Israel and ally
>Omits the Syrian civil war where Russia assisted Assad in slaughtering 600k civilians and displacing millions
lol

45% winrate and plummeting btw

>>531567559
29% clickbait TT skipper getting raped by some soupbowl trash tank covered in Ba'athist decals OR anything with a ukie flag getting betrayed by teammate MGs and subsequently erased by enemy fire

>>531568116
>Ba'athist decals
you mean Moscow cuckshed lost the war decals

>we did it Patrick! we installed Al'Qaeda and ISIS jihadis into power overthrowing a secular national regime all in the name of (((democracy!))) again!
uhhhhhhh... War Thunder?

>>531568030
omits the Chechen wars too

rustranny chimpout
someone's su30 just got raped by an iris-t didn't it...

>>531568439
Assad lost and Russia was humiliated tranny, the US didn't need to do anything, troonssad ACKed himself by not knowing how to run a country LOL

uhhmmm......wiesel........c-cute....

>remind them they lost the war of Russian humiliation in Syria
>Instant seething
GEEEEEG

>>531568567

>>531568439
This was a good thing actually

>>531568051
Hoholurine never had 45% of winning

>kill too many of xi's chosen
>missiles stop locking completely in multiple battles and test flights
>restart game
>working fine again
Really makes you think.

It's Thursday /wtg/

Kek, the rustranny tried to bait but it really backfired, now everyone is LAUGHING at rustranny

your walls aren't "everyone"

>no u
stupid NAFOtroon

>>531569427
KEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>rustr- ACK

>>531569637
Many such cases. There's no worse insult a tranny can think of than calling others what xirself is.

>war thunder

>rustroon having an absolute MELTDOWN just because someone mentioned Syria (a war where they were embarrassed and humiliated)
LOL

>it's another spawn camp episode

I really think I just need to uninstall and move on. Hasn't been enjoyable for a while now.

So the Aim-120-C-5 is still the best BVR missle in the game, while it obviously lacks in the WVR and under 20km distance capabilities. Why the fuck everyone is chimping out about it? Why don't people use their kits to their strength?
Or is this chimpout happening because after eating phoenixes and fakours every day people started to adapt and actually sometimes defend against BVR shots?

If you have sub 1 k/d stats your opinion is not wanted

>>531564575
Just like go fast lmao
Although you need to adapt to the starnigger playstyle of forcing headons with your tiny frontal profile and zooming out of stratosphere to sling missiles at unaware enemies.
Its perfectly serviceable jet, expect when something outspeeds you then you are just fucked.

It wont carry games, but if you cant get a positive k/d then idk, skill issue

>>531570646
white people (AKA not forum ruschimps) understand that the 120A is basically always better for the actual shots you take ingame and that 20km+ shots only kill retards which a 120A would have done anyway

china... so beautiful

>>531570646
BVR is a meme
if you die to BVR you are dogshit at the game

Finally my favourite WT content creator

>IT

can you not belly land the f-5 anymore? I just got catapulted into a hangar halfway down the runway

^shitter

>>531571157
the jews fear the sons of hadrian
>>531571240
it can but why would you, with the parachute it stops basically instantly

>>531571380
you can manually deploy the chute and stop even faster

>>531570805
genuinely curious
are chink helis actually good?

Am I playing CoD or War Thunder? Because I honestly can't tell with this game anymore.

>>531571726
They're the best. Good for ground attack and CAP.
Z-19 is extremely nimble and can dodge SACLOS missiles. Gets AKD-9
Z-10 is heavier but gets AKD-10 which are a significant improvement in range and damage over AKD-9
Z-10ME is like the Z-10 but has LDIRCM and will soon get CM-502KG (big warhead fire-and-forget missiles)
Honorable mention the Z-9WA is a TY-90 slinger at 10.3
We will also get the mysterious Z-21 heavy attack heli soon.

>>531572089
Play 5.7 Germany
Slow and Methodical

>play 6 games in the swiss mirage
>gain 9k rp
whats the fastest way to kms?

When?

Boreblunder forums say this has been passed to the developers

ETA?

>>531572816
anywhere from next patch to never ever

>>531572816
Never ever, hopefully.

>>531573825
They should add the F-22 so America can dominate again for a patch or two

>>531573950
You can have F-22 a year after J-20 Mighty Dragon gets added

>>531574191
>no gun
>no thrust vectoring
barely less DOA than fag-35

>>531574296
No need. Chinese jets beat anything american big time

>>531574296
F-35 is already in the game

what happened, did china get humiliated again?

we're just speedrunning through the scheduled chimpouts so we can have a comfy thread for the rest of the day

>>531574647
I was personally humiliated in my very weak and over br'd British wagons
PLEASE move the 11.7 Challenger 2s to 11.3, 12.0 Chally 2s to 11.7 and the Chally 1s to 10.0 (Mk 2, Mk 3, and DS)
Thank you

>>531551709
>has a near 3 to 1 kd ratio
>I DON'T EVEN SEE PLANES
kill yourself nigger

>mfw I was lied to my entire life and finally discovered the truth—that Ukrainian identity was artificially created as a psy-op by Polish people during the 1600s
Damn bros... I can finally see the light. What are some vftf?

>>531577628
>these people who were all part of this one big nation, speak the same language, come from the same place, look the same... are actually very different actually in reality thougheverbeit putin has no right wanting to annex it.
you really bought into this propaganda anon?

>>531577628
Still older than "american" identity.

>>531577628
THAD-90MACHO
SUGOI-30SWINEMURDERER

>>531577628
wait until you discover the real trvth nvke that is historical Finnish borders

>>531576007
Cringe. Gayjew please increase BR for everything. Make the game harder. Britain players and British vehicles are just that good.

>>531576007
They should honestly just give the Challenger 3 M829A3, SHARD Mk.1/2 and whatever the Germans came up with, I think it was called KE2020NEO or somthing like that. At least that steaming pile of shit would have one singular advantage then.
On the other hand I hate Britian, so they deserve being stuck with the worst top tier tanks.
At least the Black Night is fun, albeit not practical, due to the busted APS

How do I fight with my 109G-6 against 109G-2s?

>>531580662
Have you tried turning?

>>531580842
G2 will out turn a G6

Give CV50 with Akeron and Iron Fist

>>531581098
Oh, you're in the chubby.
Best move is leveraging your mass by forcing long shallow dives that loop into long shallow climbs.
Problem is how do you keep his guns off you while doing that since he also out rolls you.

>turd34 has 55kmph top speed
fantasy game

>>531581405
does that actually exist? sounds like a dream vehicle if the gun has good pen and HE-VT

should of winnings war next time pidor

Its realistic, T-34 was created in kharkiv by CHADkrainian engineers, ukraine defeated hitler while pozzia did nothing and the sovet union was kept alive because of ukrochads, once ukraine pulled out it collapsed instantly

^pigger tranny delusions

>>531581823
yes, 50mm gun, akerons and iron fist aps

>>531581834
trvmbvkvlar trvth nvke
gayssia was nothing but pasture while chudkraine had existed for over a thousand years

>>531581834
This sends the local pidors into a seething shoot, watch this get deleted

VT5 is still missing the DTC02-105 apfsds

>>531571726
>are chink helis actually good?

in broad strokes they get good missiles and a couple of them have very strong ECM. they suffer in the turret department. the usual caveat applies; chinese vehicles aren't really worth playing no matter how good they are because they come attended with chinese teams.

>>531585683
god tanks are so boring and gay, I love that Warthunder is a PLANE GAME PLANE GAME PLANE GAME PLANE GAME PLANE GAME PLANE GAME PLANE PLANE PLANE PLANE PLANE PLANE PLANE

>go outside
>girl looks at me
>hear the radar warning sound in my mind
>tfw no chaff IRL

What capture point was lost?

Should I get the swedish sherman at 75% off?

>>531586065
chinese jets are the best in the world

>>531574191
Nice MiG

I'm so close to top tier guys
will I be disappoint?

>nigkoyan
lmao get back in the grave

>good map + uptier
or
>bad map + downtier

>>531586901
Yes

>>531586464
I refuse to play chink's air until they move taiwan shits to its own subtree
I dont want to play another F-5/104 just to play J-10

>>531571726
they are not even meta at top tier. shitty cannon, shitty ground attack weaponry, poor survivability. also the new resident helishitter chink doesn’t post his stats with them so that should tell you something

>>531581834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berlin
You can make Russians mad by posting this Wikipedia page and saying Russians weren't involved in the final battle against the Nazis.
>1st Belorussian Front
>2nd Belorussian Front
>1st Ukrainian Front
>1st Polish Army
>2nd Polish Army
but the 1st Ukrainian Front was actually composed of a majority of Russians so it's not true.

>>531587516
so it wasnt the russians who raped?!!?!!?!?!!!?!?

>>531587516
>but the 1st Ukrainian Front was actually composed of a majority of Russian
Duh.

>>531587638
It was mongol tatar judeo bolsheviks ))

>>531587762
THREMBOTRVKLEAR TRVTH TRVKE NVKE

>>531587762

>>531587762

not War Thunder

>>531587762

>eats your dart

China owns the sky

Which nation has the highest average skill level players in your opinion?

>>531588430
Italy

>>531588430
Something objectively dogshit like shitaly.

>>531588205
...with(shitty versions of) Russian planes

>>531588430
China

>>531588205
Nice MiGs!

>>531588430
USSR

Events where?

>russhit trash
lmao the last time a russhit jet went to china to show off it was laughed at by the crowd
shit was so bad it looked like it was painted by cavemen and assembled with ikea parts

>>531588936
akshually chud it was a prototype (like all the other ones ever made)

>>531587762
>the "rustranny" buzzword referred to ukroons (russians who deny xhey are russians tooth and nail and get REALLY mad when you deadname xhem) all along

It was a T-50 testbed, after some 15 years of extensive testing.

take a look at this turd
literally laughed at by the crowd

>>531589260
did they actually use wall paint on it?

>>531589319
seems like it

>>531588912
this is cute art

russhits would never make more than 5 units

>>531589054
Except excluding the 10 or so prototype frames, like about 20-25 basic model and at least another two dozen M variants have been already produced by now.

chang absolutely blasting today, well done

>>531589260
It's a T-50-4 by the way.

>>531589824
thx
>>531589747
can we see them?

>chang resorts to posting blatant photoshops while slandering an established and successful 5th gen
oh am i laffin

For me, it's ground arcade.

>>531589260
Embarrassing. If you actually can't mass produce parts that fit together then at least make them oversize and have someone with a grinder individually fit them together (negating all advantages of mass production).

>successful 5th gen
maybe in you fantasies
1st time it went to war and got internationally embarrassed

I think I'm gonna main China

>>531590386
Based.

>got internationally
Recognized for a record missile kill and 0 combat losses.

>>531590787

>>531590787
>inb4 "a-a-a-ACKshually it was lost when that one downed drone landed half a dozen meters away from it and MAYBE chipped its paint!!!!!!!"

Reminder that if you belly land you're bad at the game.

the moffet is the ship everyone says to buy right?

I probably won't play it but its on the warbond shop and i'm sure its the most worthwhile thing there if i remember right

>>531591048
shut up

>>531590386
do it
you will not regret it
China is the only tech tree (and country) with a future

>>531591048
*belly lands near you but also deploys chute*

problem?

>>531591048
But the fuselage of the plane scraping against the runway is a more effective brake than the brakes

>>531591090
id go for Knox as its cheaper and a lower BR whilst being better in almost every sense
but if you got the warbonds to spare you could do a whole lot worse than the second best premium destroyer

I want to play major ground tree now
which do I play?

is this a new glitch? why are they appearing all red near their own spawns
this isn't a scouting thing either, because they would be blinking

>>531592005
i had that happen too, i asked in caht but noone asnwered
is it some cas scouting thing?

New to the game, how do I use rockets for CAS? I just got the il 10 1946 and I can't figure out how to approach a tank and hit it. Or should I just use the 2 250kg bombs (they're easier)

>FAB-5000

>>531590386
I would play China too if I dont have to waste my time playing Taiwan copy paste shits
why cant we just skip to the good part like israel?

>>531592407
shoot one rocket and correct your aim shoot next rocket

>>531593075
The gas chambers? Never happened, but should have, and will.

>>531593075
Shermans and T34 on the same lineup

>>531586113
for me it's the nuke siren

I've played 1500 hours but have never used a nuke or seen one in my games. I'm convinced they're a meme, like sex.

>>531594064
I've seen a nuke in a user mission. Dropped it on the City air map and then explored the devasted city in a tank.

My favorite tank? M60A3 Tank Thermal Sight.

>>531592407
mostly you don't. due to vagaries of the damage model and various other behind-the-curtain game mechanics rockets are largely ineffective against all but the most lightly armored targets and hitting ground targets without CCIP is a thankless slog.

>>531593248
I once again will express my wish for an asymmetrical large scale sim battle in War Thunder
Something like the Battle of the Bulge with hundreds of players on each side including massive allied CAS numbers but only when the weather clears
I realize that a new game is likely required to handle something like that, but I can dream.
If I were Anton, I would focus on making a successor to both War Thunder and Enlisted in a single combined game, with cross progression carrying over of course. It would have traditional vehicle only gameplay like WT ground and air, combined warfare like Enlisted, and infantry only like Call of Duty/Arma (arcade vs sim). You can play whatever mode you like. Give a developer modkit tool available to everyone where you can make maps, skins, guns, etc., and if your design is implemented into the game you would get paid in GE as commission every time someone buys your creation, or a huge chunk like 100,000 GE if Gaijin implements your map. It would have the potential to be THE combat game of the decade.

When?

>>531592005
>>531592191
its a new bug
https://forum.warthunder.com/t/update-2-47-0-59/251821/22

>>531593248
You can do that with Russian 5.x too, and as much as I love the M18 and the DShK on the T-34-85 Gai, they have the better lineup.

>>531594653
Sounds like a nightmare to balance and will probably have one side overwhelmed way worse than it already happens often in tank RB.

>>531593248
What if I dont want sherman or t34?
they are already in every fucking trees?

>>531592407
Crew skill (weapon maintenance) affects rocket accuracy bigly.
The HE rockets are useful for taking out open top SPAA from a distance.
The SAP-HE rockets can pen tank roofs but you would have to be incredibly precise. Not recommended.
2x250Kg+HE rockets (custom loadout) is the best.

if you want to really learn rockets play Britain. The RP-3 are much better at getting tank kills than the American HVAR or the Russian rockets.

>>531594590
It's extremely fun to HVAR open to SPAAs

>>531595252
They both have different advantages and weaknesses and compliment each other very nicely. You always have a good vehicle to spawn regardless of the map.

>>531594970
Yeah, I realize my idea is very grandiose. But if implemented well, it will basically monopolize the whole FPS AND vehicle combat genres for 10 years at least. You'll have anything from WWI to the present day in it. With any playstyle from arcade Call of Duty style, semi realistic Battlefield style, to simulator ARMA style.

>go full Wehraboo
>Allied victory background

>>531595252
play world of tanks if you want original/drawing board tanks

>>531595252
you play sneeden

>>531595673
There's nothing wrong with being ambitious, it's much preferable to gayjin's way of keeping the exact same rudimentary placeholder gamemodes we were playing over a decade ago the only way to experience the game all the while sitting on a solid starting point for the next chapter in the game's history (EC) for nearly as long and doing nothing with it.

I'm starting to think top tier is just shit on purpose
Imagine if we got WARNO / Wargame red dragon maps instead, with proper team work/ AI like deployable Gepards/MANPADS that protect your long range SAMs from strafing jets
Or being able to use scout cars/scout helis to locate and scout enemies to help out your team
Or modern age MBTs being super expensive to spawn so you have to choice to waste your points on 1 unit or play with cheaper disposable vehicles
Or CAS being hard stuck with LGBs and AGM-65Bs at most
Imagine if we had that haha

>>531595787
wait, wasn't there some "no axis profile pics" rule?

>>531596686
No recognizeable figures.

>>531594763
>https://forum.warthunder.com/t/update-2-47-0-59/251821/22
based anti spawncamper mechanic

>>531596269
Just take WWM and make the 2D map an actual multiple day-long match where every icon corresponds to an actual unit doing its actual assigned task in 3D space, then make it permanent (obviously you can't fit all 150k online players into such a relatively small space so you'd have to run hundreds/thousands of such matches each hosting a hundred+ players). EC on crack essentially. When you drop into such a match, you're free to do whatever you want with light nudging in the way of mission objectives.

>>531596269
It is shit because the core gameplay is designed around WW2 vehicles and technology. Gayjin doesn't care about improving the gameplay of top tier because once you get there you're already a captive user probably with sunken cost fallacy.

I just got the Gepard and am spading it
For some reason at 8.3 most of the planes the enemy brings are lower BR prop CAS & Bombers which my radar picks up immediately and I can shoot down before they can even attack anyone

>>531597373
it's prety fun at its own BR, yeah. becomes ineffective against air pretty quick as you move up though.
Hilariously the chink Gepard is way better and at the same BR, that thing is an absolute joy to play if you just want to fuck over planes

mid tier china is a joy to play

>>531589260
>su57 lives rent free in troons mind so much they still can't get over the prototypes
incredible

Will I have time to buy the current BP before we get news on what will be in the next one?

VN-22 when?

>>531599065
1000+ F-35s have been made so far.

>>531599315
lotta money wasted on some fuck ugly fat pig pyramid scheme of a plane

>>531599609
money is for military/technological imperialism. if you're not using it for that it has no purpose whatsoever.

>>531599065
>the nose
is this a cardboard model?

>>531599192
whatever it is, it's going to be better than a French boat and a failed prototype T-44

>>531599315
cool but 1000 fat 35s are still weaker than 30 su57s made with ks172s and al51s
it just looks like a joke in comparison with it's aim120s and 1.2 mach top speed (su57 has 2.1)

>>531599928
no that's a yf23, the whole plane is made of house grade all american cardboard and held together by a single philips screw

>>531599930
it will be luchs and il102

>>531600262
based

big reward from anton
thank you sir

>>531600802
generous

next bp vehicle

>>531600454
too generous
dutch P-51 (FRA) and captured Tiger II (USA)

China is lacking all its wheeled ifvs

>>531600454
Bait would've been believable if you said Il-20 but then again, the main prize will most likely not be Russian twice in a row.

What makes french planes so much better than american ones?

Russia is lacking all its wheeled ifvs

>>531599930
you would think...

yeah but no one cares about shitssia
all eyes are on china

>all eyes on poorly made copies of Russian gear
wut

>>531601458
France doesn't fight wars so they have the luxury of designing for performance envelopes that do well in exercises even if they have no bearing on actual air war

shitssians copy china tho

buhhhh

all original chinese desgins copied by americans

>>531599930
Fair point, thanks for stopping my FOMO

why is it so KINO just watching military tech rolling around?

>kamov made chopper
>5th gen jet that flies on mig29 engines and is a copy of 1.44
>AA that's a copy of TOR, S350, Pantsir, someone strapping a Russian naval ciws to an airport tug
>tanks are literally t55s with bodykits
>4th gen is either plain russian jets or mig21 with bodykit lmao
>r77s renamed to dongfeng type 1488
>topol m's renamed to ching chong type 69
>the only original developments are infantry weapons and they suck

>>531601954

>>531601954
>Improves your designs
Based chinese

>>531602264

oh oh
looks like shitssians are mad

what blew up now? su57 factory?

>>531602594

>>531602776
ukraine as usual, pidorcord is furious so they start leaking itt

What map the 'cord's team got spawnrushed on today?

>>531603095
this, pidorcord aka burgercord aka NAFOcord aka the /k/ord is getting out of hand

>>531602935
you have 48 days to win before orange flipflops and gives Ukraine nato membership

>t-troomp will save ukranny!!! this time we'll win for sure!!!!

beautiful

chimpout because ox cart enthusiasts

china players’ toughest challenge yet: posting their stats

>>531604072
what ox cart?

I've had sex with every girl in this thread but am still a virgin

>>531604223
xis turbofag projection fantasies, pay xim no mind

>>531604201
Personally I'd like to know if the Q-5A at least gets CCIP.

I love getting pegged, that's why I play Sweden exclusively.

>>531604737
it gets ccip for bombs and cannons

My monthly reminder as to why I stopped grinding in this game and exclusively play low tiers.

I don't even know who you are.

>>531606154
I'm Squidley

>>531605140
You know you can just go on Grindr and find a girl with a cock that has a more feminine face and body than 90% of women, and will let you have sex with them the same day, right?

SWS-2 when?

Grind = not having fun.
Grind = doing something because you have to.
If you're playing and having fun, no matter if it's top tier or low tier, it's not grind.

>>531605814
people with preimum have no right complaining about the grind when this nigga gets 3k RP for 6 kills at br 9.0

>>531606585
I play boats and get 100k for a 10 minute game lmao

grind = not fun
grindr = fun

>shoot where the lead indicator tells me to shoot
>miss by a mile
What is even the point of these things on SPAA? It's either dead fucking on or on the other side of the universe. Plane could be cruising in a straight line and rounds will be flying a dozen plane lengths away from the target.

>>531607480
t. gets topped by Wiesel-chan

Anyone figure out how to write "CUNNY" with decals?

>>531608641
try this

>>531608082
stupid cuck

>>531608758
I guess that'll do, don't think there a cuter and funnier CC decal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Wi1CJvCbo

>>531572816
it was finally passed back in May of this year, so I wouldn't expect it terribly soon although it's been suggested on the old forum for far longer probably dating back to tanks launch

it would (will) be an extremely based 4.7 to nig on people paired with the PaKwagen and could well algorithmically climb to 5.3 somehow outstripping the MAN prototype that historically defeated it

Wiesel sex

M44 gameplay really is get one or two kills then get strafed until dead isn't it.

>>531612629
You're self propelled howitzer. You are supposed to sit 10km+ behind the front line.

>>531613173
This is a War Thunder video game general, anon. I think you meant to go to /k/ or something?

>>531613173
I will cause WWIII if I have to endure hearing the female voice spamming "RECON REPORTS ENEMY SPOTTED" for more than 10 seconds

>>531612629
it excels in urban combat, use it there
it's also harder to get bombed or strafed when you're in between buildings

>>531596269
>make RTS warthunder hybrid game
>you can jump in and control individual unit like warthunder like in enlisted
>you can never ever use that mode because every second you are not microing your entire army from birdview will result in chunk of your army dying to artillery or CAS on the other side of the map while you drive around in your t-72
>even if you let AI control SPAA they will probably get SEAD to death or artillery snipe by enemies
>game end up just being wargames RTS
it just wont work

how the fuck does intelligence even work in arkaden, I only get it like 1 in 10 times when a scouted target is destroyed
does it only count squad members or something retarded like that

>>531614623
You have to scout the enemy before the killer gets it marked through other means (own vision etc.).

i4w?

>>531599930
desu I stop bother with anything BP related years ago
its what make the game unfun to me and made me burn out many times
YOU MUST PLAY THIS
YOU MUST DO THAT
YOU MUST LOG IN EVERYDAY
YOU MUST DO DAILY EVERYDAY
YOU MUST ALSO PAY FOR IT
bitch I rather just play whatever

also helping that every BPs are dogshit these days

***OFFICIAL VOICE COCK SIZE RANKINGS***
Male Voice 1: 7"
Male Voice 2: 5"
Male Voice 3: 4"
Female Voice: 12"

>>531601476
bumerang when?

>>531601476
i wish theyd make an armed variant of the Typhoon
just imagine that bus with an autocannon or AT gun turret (or two)

IN FOR WHAT

>>531615490
after picrel

>>531616624
T-72A with B instead of A

>>531616624
and also do i pay pig the 2s38 or the t-80ud

>>531616624
its slightly better

>couldn't hear the helicopter flying right next to me
>all i hear is a volley of rockets

game sure does turn my props sometimes

Excellent!

>>531617712
his rotor was supersonic obvs

>155mm gets eaten by track
>doesn't even break the track
Do people actually unironically put in any amount of effort into this game? This is one of those games where I see people trying and I just cringe. Like those people breaking controllers over fall guys lmao.

>>531495979
Less mobile and non-self-guided ITO90M. You'll have to play the finnchad spaa until sweden gets a real sam system: The ITO-96 and David's Sling.

I find myself utterly aghast, my constitution quite rattled by the events that have just transpired within this most curious electric pageant of arms, this so-called 'Ground' Realistic Battles. One endeavors to engage in a spot of honourable, terrestrial combat, you see. I was commanding my magnificent Centurion, a true steel behemoth and a credit to the Crown, advancing with decorum across the fields of Normandy.

We had just engaged a rather brutish-looking Hun in his Panther: a tense but respectable duel, armour against armour, shell against shell, a proper gentleman's contest of wits and gunnery. I had him on the ropes, sir, his gun breech failing, my next shot poised to send him back to his virtual fatherland with his tail between his legs.

And then! From the very heavens themselves, a ghastly buzzing, like a colossal, mechanically-inclined mosquito! A vulgar little fellow in a flying contraption, some sort of American-made 'Thunderbolt' if my eyes did not deceive me, appeared as if by black magic. This... this *aeronaut*... had no part in our duel! He was not on the field of honour! He was, in essence, a peeping Tom with a payload of high-explosive indecency!

Before one could even cry "That's not cricket!", this sky-bound ruffian loosed his ordnance. A thousand pounds of unadulterated villainy descended upon my noble tank, and with a most frightful *CRUMP*, my glorious war machine was reduced to a smouldering, ignominious ruin.

It is an abomination, I tell you! A complete and utter perversion of the art of war! What honour is there in that? What skill? It is the tactical equivalent of striking a man in the back of the head with a lump of lead piping whilst he is engaged in a fencing match. It is the refuge of the scoundrel, the coward, and the man with absolutely no sense of fair play!

>>531618749
>so long as my howitzer doesn't hit the tiny part of the tank i'll destroy it!!
>round gets magnetized to that tiny spot
>it does no damage

it gets old fast

>>531501685
yes but gaijin fucked it

>>531619138
Wodehouse?

These are jeetgpt posts, aren't they?

What's the funnest nation per BR?

>>531620157
Surprising for an inferior life form. You humans are so pathetic.

>>531620395
SAAAAAAR HELP ME IM FUCKING INDIAN SAR

why

>Eastern Europe: global water levels lowered by 1.5 m
>Eastern Europe: global water levels increased by 0.85 m
whats next, tides changing during the battle?

>>531621779
What's next is you getting pregnant.

how bad is it?

>>531621779
>operation: pearl river estuary (high tide) cuckstal map
>operation: pearl river estuary (low tide) Tanks with a bunch of fording flank routes for amphibious
regardless 25 minutes of tide change is pretty negligible tee bee aych

>>531621779
Does this mean when we travel to eastern europe in future we need to sail downhill?

>>531621585
whoah
I literally got jumpscared from that decal

>>531485073
It's made up by having the worst M60A3 TTS in the game at the same br as the Amrrican one.
>No era
>Worse shell

>>531621585
all chinks will die.

>>531622284
its good if things at 9.7 didnt exist

When?

Would kill for a battlepass with an East German T-54/T-55

>>531623556
wouldnt surprise me if they're doing the stabilized T-35-85 as the next BP reward
>but gaijin said...
)))))

>>531623403
when you post stats

>>531623556
for me it's the m48 (minigun) or maybe the chinese t34 with 12 flamethrowers

>>531623556
bruh east Germany was in the USSR. you already have those in the USSR tree

>>531623912
thats gay i NEED more cold war slop PLEASE

>>531624202
It's Germany, so it goes in the German tree
Also it gets Kino East German markings

>>531624447
nigga, all the DDR tanks were built in poland, czechoslovakia and russia.

next battlepass will have tiger 131
it was revealed to me in a dream

>>531621585
just reminded me that these 2 decals are free. thanks

>>531625445
have you looked inside the german tech tree before?

>>531625741
accurate depiction of a tank catching a vikhr

>>531623927
>Russian helicopter glazers post their 5+ kd pridefully
>chinks disappear the moment you request their stats
AND YOURE BLACKPILLING?

>>531626029
Everyone knows the chinese fronting is just a false flag by the usual mains from the 'cord.

>>531626260
yeah but I like to pretend we are fighting a race war

>>531625445
Okay, then remove Leopards from every tree that isn't Germany

>>531623556
nah fuck that, make it East German T-72S Shilden obr. 1996 instead kek

>hungarian subtree
>no tas
>no nimród
>no 44m zrínyi in tt
>no toldi in tt
>ZERO hungarian planes
>tigris gets added as a premium when italy has zero heavy tanks in tt
What were they thinking

when?

>155m hits the barrel of a zsu-57-2
>nothing happens

I just lost every drop of desire I had to play this game. This is some unacceptable shit. Like niggas know this is game breaking right?

>>531587516
The army names are their location not their contents.

>>531628668
>next to zero effort
>increase grind
>sell more premiums
same thing with the thai, swiss, and benelol, subtrees

>here's your top tier map bro

>>531628668
>in the future

>>531630147
before or after bomber cockpits?

>>531595673
They're adding infantry. I'd assume around next year or then 2 weeks like subs if it has the same priority.

Large maps when community seethes enough. Played sim recently and its hilariously bad. Just arcade with FOV restrictions.

>>531629608
>esc
>leave
Simple as that.

>>531629608
they really need to relegate the slapfight clowncar maps to their own fucking queue

SHE IS PERFECT

>>531631098
>perfect
literally how, the CAS options are terrible
even worse for the premium F-2

>>531628919
>be bad
>cry

>playing CAS
https://files.catbox.moe/l6phm7.mp4

>>531631252
brown hands typed this post.

>>531631657
i wish
i have the F-2 and i want it to be good in GRB

>>531628936
I know. The 1st Belorussian Front, for instance, was originally called the Central Front. It's named after the theater of operations but they still definitely recruited a lot of locals, especially in the case of Belarus.

>>531631734
Why don't you just spam LJDAM-ERs at everything?

Are you stupid?

>>531631935
My version doesn't get those OR a proper TGP lol

I am squidley

>>531632067
Shut up woman

Play Japan

>>531623912
Would need* to be a lvl 51 reward, so would be really good as a free reward. But they also said it would be rank IV so who knows
* - I mean they *could* make 3 main ground rewards in a row and two of them being soviet - would leave quite a distate in some players mouths

>>531632405
>distaste in some players mouths
the opinions of a couple dozen forum chimps matter little when thousands of illiterate baboons buy everything that pops up after launching the game

>>531591146
and by future he means keep buying Russia's planes

>>531632346
>absolutely nothing in the 10.0 to 11.0 BR
how do I play japan exactly?

>>531632346
i only play their air

>>531632904
That's true, but literally going:
>T-80UD (soviet tank copy-paste)
>M46 (US tank copy-paste)
>T-34-85 (soviet tank copy-paste)
>T-44 proto (soviet tank copy-paste)
>T86 (US tank almost-copy-paste)
into
>T-34-85 with stab (practically soviet tank copy-paste)
for ground vehicle grinds this year is pretty bad. At some point people will stop buying Sovet Tank Copy-paste not because they don't want to, but because they won't fit another of iteration of the same tank into their lineup

>>531628668
Technically Hitler promised the bald guy some Tigers before Italians got rid of the bald guy. Never delivered. Perfect tech tree material.

>>531633421
oh yea, there was also a british vehicle grind
forgot about that one

>>531631808
Belorussia*
>recruited
Incorporated, hundreds of thousands were already involved in the partisan effort.

>>531631098
>no mixed loadout of 62's and 64's
>randomly making double the loadouts just to take FFAR which will always be worse than the zuni's

How are people still queuing this every day? I play once or twice a week and every time it ends with me acknowledging I don't need this bullshit in my life. Like... do you just accept you're playing dog shit? How do you wrap your head around playing something this bad?

>>531633973
and yet you keep coming here
get in line

>>531633973
Wiesel sex

>>531633890
>no mixed loadout of 62's and 64's
Why would I want that? The 64s only seem good for blowing up bases.
>FFAR which will always be worse than the zuni's
FFAR has way more stored kills, the Zunis are only brought for range and having less impact on flight performance.

>>531633226
why would you play the most boring br? Play 12.0 like a real man

The stabilized 34-85 will be a TT, dummies, it was literally hinted as a replacement for knocking down the Obr. 1944 to Rank III.

when

>>531634536
and it was supposed to "come soon", next update is some months away

>>531634765
6 days

>>531634516
yeah, but on my way up to 12.0, do I just skip the type 90 since there's nothing to support it besides aircraft?
might as well just buy the two top premiums for Japan to grind the whole thing out

I've been gaijined harder in the last 3 matches than the entire rest of my time playing this game combined

>>531634425
>Why would I want that?
bigger explosion means you can target AA's/vehicles that are moving slightly
>FFAR has way more stored kills
you arent going to get the chance to use all those stored kills, you are going to spam them at AA anyway so you might as well go for the one with higher explosive mass so you dont need a direct hit

>>531635156
Well done!

>>531635050
I mostly played 9.3 Japan to grind everything else, which was a very comfy experience. Great tanks, 2 great SPAAs, vehicles for every occasions... Just an overall fun lineup.
And you can use 2 Type 16s in the lineup if you have the FPS

>>531635156
I've had a 90mm M3 M82 shell to the side of a Tiger 2, it hit two overlapping skirts and dissappeared.

>>531635583
I've heard others say the same.

>>531635825
germutt skirts (which are like 2mm structural steel) are completely unironically some of the niggest parts of any tanks in this dogshit game
Although I've had a 75mm sherman M61 bounce off the front of a Puma, somehow

>>531636136
You have my ear, citizen.

>>531623927
I think i'm alright

scouting/intelligence should have higher rewards
sitting in a bunch and keeping the whole enemy team lit up does not provide personal benefits anywhere in proportion with the amount it benefits your team (even taking into account the guaranteed win bonus) vs just driving your gokart around and popping a few guys in the flanks and then losing the match

I'm very happy with my 1.23kd thank you now please fuck off

>>531640441
as long as you are above 1, specially if you soloQ it's okay

>>531640189
>farms in reserve so stats go up
>dips off the cliff once he's back playing out of reserve
you should be ashamed posting this you noob

>>531640647
i love chinese choppers chop chop
i'm not too good with tanks

>>531640252
your reward is a fat rack of guided missiles anon. the point of scouting is that it reduces the sp cost of your aircraft of choice

>>531640897
I'm playing germoid 7.7 the only CAS is a fucking il28

Pakistan already has Z-10ME in use. I wonder if they went with the basic configuration or they added some extra weaponry mods the regular one doesn't have.

>>531641024
arado

>>531640837
>the message
I fucking kneel
I will go grind chinks now

>>531641348
sorry but I have principles and I will NOT be putting late war slop in my postwar lineups
including DDR slop is already VERY close to the line

>>531640837
>message
>fucks ground sissies with da choppa
based femboy hater, I retract my statement, you are unbelievably based.

>>531640837
grim

>>531641408
Go for it anon. China has the best tanks in the world and dozens more to come.

this game it's greatest ability is giving you a victim complex
>enemy actively getting engaged and shot at
>i simply appear
>decides to waste his shot on me just to die to the guy he was engaged with right after
i just dont understand the mindset, you are able to kill the first guy just as much, but it always has to be me who gets punished for simply existing
and dont let me start on flanking a never gone path just for half the enemy team to suddenly show up just because you appear there

>>531640837
HOLY FUARKIN BASED
behead all femboys
throw trannies into a wood chipper
mangle all fags

>>531625741
>>531621585
how do you get the born to hunt decal?

>>531641613
post stats so i can learn from you

>>531641657
>China has the best tanks in the world and dozens more to come.
like what
everything china can get will NEVER be as a good as a m1a2/type 10, let alone a 2a7V or 2a8

>>531642195
Chinese tanks already beat those in quality and quantity
Also WZ-1224 when?

>my team is 1-vehicle-lineup retards
>enemy team is e-sports fag with hundreds of nukes
>he gets a nuke
Win required number of battles yourself, Anton.

>>531641539
okay but the arado 234 c3 is the single best jet at 7.3 and the only things at 7.7 are like f84 and meteors which it shits on

>>531642353
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>531642353
fuck i forgot the image

>>531641539
>I will NOT be putting late war slop in my postwar lineups

>>531642157

>>531642116
Should be given to every account automatically iirc. Otherwise it was a part of an event.

>helicopter players in war thunder
what is this 2019?

>is it 2019
god i wish

>>531643946
never left

>>531643946
battlefield has been shit since before 2019 so the helicopter players have to go somewhere

3rd match of the day and i get met with wall banging shit like ths

>>531641672
i do this often
the reason being that i know i'm already going to die, and i already got a hit on the first guy, which means i have a confirmed assist on him, so logically i shoot at the new guy because then i'll get 2 confirmed assists, rather than risking finishing off the first guy only for the chance at getting 1 kill

also usually if i'm in a fight like that, obviously i'm not able to kill the first guy otherwise i would have done it already in the first or second shot, and likewise he might also be having trouble killing me, so shooting the new guy is just getting rid of the extra variable in the duel

>delay spawn as long as possible so i wont get gangraped by the red team
>blue rodnol up my ass

>playing shits

>look around the corner
>see this
what do you do
for refernce that is
2x jagdtiger
2x maus
tiger 2 behind them
another jagdtiger offscreen

>>531645117
I would've taskkilled war thunder as soon as I saw that map pop up and gone next

>>531645117
PE-8

>>531645117
pov you're being punished for your sins of time travel

>>531645117
just go around lol

>>531643791
Very nice. Wish you good luck.

??????????????

>>531645639
>advice
switch to the fucking raper and stop trying to outrun it

how come every single top tier tank gets functioning front hull armor besides the Abrams?
I refuse to believe it functions like this in real life
why did gay jew make it so I am a glass cannon in a world full of tanks?

>>531645117
>kill the tiger (most flexible, least skilled)
>kill jagdtigers (least flexible, most skilled)
>disable/kill both maus, notify team

>>531647220
its realistic

>531647220
bait

>>531647602
not sure

>>531647220
if you have any documents to improve the accuracy of armor modeling please forward them to svr@gaijinent.com

>>531647332
you're telling me this is supposed to just do nothing? is it made of paper?

>>531648096
Tanks are designed to be shot there

>>531648096
it stops heat

>>531647291
these stupid fucks all tried to squeeze through a single narrow alley, so I managed to slap some roofs, and disabled one jagdtiger, and one maus.
unfortunately I was completely stock so there was literally no way to deal with maus, and I got killed by its coax cannon
also TIL maus has 60mm roof armour, would have killed him otherwise

>>531643791
>>531640837
genuinely how do I get better with helis?

>>531533238
>skill issue is when you literally disable your enemy's main weapon and his mobility, leaving him like a turtle on his back.

Which tanks are good at reverse sidescraping?

>>531649987
IS' and American heavies

>>531649708
>>522814059

at what BR would you put the Hawk?

>>531650340
2.0

>>531649987
Tiger 2
>>531650106
no

>>531646005
the beginning of greatness
but ready rack ammo refill times will haunt you

>>531646005
food for 2s38

>>531650187
might wanna hold back on that non-apds belt advice though. generally the main appeal of using anything other than apds consists in the lack of tracer rounds (they are few). this means enemy jets won't maneuver to avoid the autocannon's work. in sqb you must have apds equipped always because the enemy pilots are always going to maneuver. Plus, you can destroy spaa with the autocannon on multiple maps, right from the helipad. so lately instead of switching the ammo belt according to the mode, I just always have APDS equipped

Why don't the Leo 2A5 or 2A6 have spall liners?

>>531652732
none were found inside

Heil Hitler

ZOOOOV heil hitler

>>531649708
>learn which maps are actually playable
maps that aren't plain flatland, have emergency hiding spots or spots where spaa can't see you but you can see the capture points
>skip everything that's a flying bus and/or doesn't have missiles with at least 6km of range
you need to be able to quickly dip down in case of emergency and range to hit things far away
>learn the missiles you're carrying
russians use long range atgms that just fly straight which are the easiest to use, china and the rest of the world use a2g missiles that form an arc which makes them fly longer and therefore require more time focusing on the same enemy
>avoid completely or kill spaa first if possible
>show as little of your chopper as possible
>sling ir missile at anything in the air to either kill or make them bleed speed so it gets killed by someone else
>bring api-t belts for the gun
>use your gun against planes
enjoy tank rape
bonus points for fiddling with lwrs to make idiots waste their smoke

HOOLLEEE

>>531654184
>HO-LEE dyude, what a EFUCKING ENIGGE-R*R*R chat

>>531653614
flatland maps are great for top tier helicopters, plus, you are useless if you stay more than 6km away from the battlefield. but good points with spaa priority and anti jet actions

>>531654184
The face of a retard who shoots T29 right in the middle of the lower front plate.

who has the best top tier tanks?

>>531656347
believe it or not, shitaly

>>531656347
leopard is meta

>>531656347
Britaly

>>531656347
russia

>>531656347
Sweden, Italy and Germany technically have the single best with the 2A7s, but 3xstrv122s>2A5,2A6, PSO, 2A7, the CV90120 is better than the Tam 2C, the CV90 Mk IV>PUMA VJTF. I guess Germany has the IRIS-T SLM now which is better than the Elde

I love WIESEL