Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com
>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn
>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E
>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w
>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is
>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG
>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD
>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
...except XVI, which is THAT bad.
Reminder that Remake and Rebirth are just Nomuran propaganda and that he is a massive Aerithfag and therefore we dislike him and his games because their existence is an affront to Tifa.
>>531751575BASED FIRST POST BEST POST
>>531751101What sorts of reinvention do you think Final Fantasy should/shouldn't be capable of? Do you think it should reinvent itself outside of the RPG genre entirely? Or do you think it should innovate while still keeping specific gameplay principles and fundamentals in place, like party based gameplay, or ATB Commands?
If you want to have a conversation about FF I'm down to do that without any shit flinging.
/Nomuran propaganda/i;boards:vg;op:no
Why does everyone love Final Fantasy XV so much?
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I can tell this is going to be a very good thread.
/Square Enix should make a Star Wars game/i;boards:vg;op:no
/^FFVI Star Wars\.png$/
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/Muse/i;boards:vg;op:no
/armpits\?/i;boards:vg;op:no
/armpit\?/i;boards:vg;op:no
/nerve/i;boards:vg;op:no
/Sex with/i;boards:vg;op:no
/feet/i;boards:vg;op:no
/Irrefutable/i;boards:vg;op:no
/Afraid so/i;boards:vg;op:no
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>>531750783The XIII Trilogy is, oddly enough, one of the most inventive series of games in the FF series. Much crazy ideas were creaated and implemented. Most of them are still good.
Alright guys let's continue more adding stuff to the soon to be official /ffg/ filter list
Any suggestions?
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>>531752737Make a new pastebin dedicated to only the MD5s images
>>531751830>no on topic reply>won't post FF when askedTragic
>>531752254Oh yeah, FF totally is about reinvention! But that reinvention takes place inside the framework of a party based RPG with dramatic story and memorable characters, of course. If you take out the party based RPG, the dramatic story, or the memorable characters, well then you might have reinvented Final Fantasy "the wrong way". Otherwise, things really should work out. Take XV for example. Party based RPG with dramatic story and memorable characters. Despite reinventing on many, many series traditional elements in some not so stellar ways. It's one of the most successful and popular FF's of all time. The MMO games and even the spin off games have all reinvented FF in all different ways. But still, in most every case, the framework remains.
>>531752878>>no on topic reply>>won't post FF when askedIt is on topic, shitposter. Replace "chess" with "Final Fantasy". It's really hard to tell sometimes whether you're actually this stupid or just hellbent on shitposting.
>>531752737All the my muse, armpits, you made him mad type of posts
>>531458774>>531466939>>531543652>>531630706
>>531753032>Still no Final Fantasy>Can't back up his own bullshit trolling whatsoever, only seethesSo damned mad every single day in this thread. Why are you this way?
Why not post FF? I will even post FF for you, if you can settle down.
Final Fantasy XVI was....?
>>531753534I answered your question, which you pretended was off-topic. I don't understand why you're so upset.
>>531753904>still no FF whatsoeverTroll.
Answer that question I asked right above you with your honest opinion for once, joker
>>531754751I already answered your question. I'm sorry that it has upset you so much. You said "I'm down to do that without any shit flinging", but all you've done is fling shit.
>>531751850Why wouldn't they? It's a good game with many memorable moments.
>>531755604>shitposter>stupidGoldfish brains? You failed to discuss FF when prompted after flame baiting, then you insulted me for asking you to tell the truth, and now you're feigning after being called troll.
Literal definition of a troll and you know it. Can't post FF to save your life, just auto attack and cooldown spam. Try an ATB Command for once
>>531752737You forgot to add Jimbo, yojimbo and all these type of images
>>531756172
I don't think putting FF screenshots on a filter list will improve the state of the general, actually.
>>531756485No no, everything has got to be filtered. Once the entire thread looks like this for them, then people might be able to actually discuss FF in peace.
I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even more
>>53175385010/10 high fantasy kino
>>531757068This is just WMAF propaganda
The 10/10 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made.
>>531759238It's super effective
>>531751850It was nice to see so much love for it lately
>>531760465XV was always liked. People just started to appreciate it more these dayes after they finally stopped believing that versus was totally going to be a "masterpiece".
The 10/10 Final Fantasy XVI is one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made.
>>531763654It's better to use this filter: /0\/10/
It will caught both 10/10 and 0/10 shitposts
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>>531763812He can't see your post dumbass
This is what ostrich sticking head in sand fags deserve
My opinion of FF16 is now much less good
The only good part is bosses and their boss moveset, killing trash enemies is boring, like 90% of the walking and cutscenes is boring
What's the filter to hide posts with more than one double line break? (i.e. reddit spaced posts)
>>531764852Now this is based
/reddit/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>531758857care to extrapolate
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Aerisu!
>>531765523Anabella was great.
>>531764863Did you not go to school?
It's /\n\n/
Anabella's too sexy to be evil, that's why Clive is evil
>>531766005>Did you not go to school?Did you? With *more than one* double line break, anon.
>>531765853Eh. Wasted potential
>>531765523She should've been the main villain.
>>531766018She was the best part about the game before they ruined her.
>>531758857>>531762286Based and irrefutably true.
Final Fantasy XVI may just be the greatest game in the series.
>>531760465It's interesting to see how popular Noctis end up being.
Thereโs so many pit lovers here
>>531768872Admittedly, I was kinda surprised to learn that he was the best selling character in Tekken. Though, it should have been obvious considering how well like he is.
>>531769212That is actually Clive. He was confirmed the most popular Tekken character.
>>531768872>>531769212What was his secret? Why he worked and Clive didn't?
>>531769395Clive was too grim with a weak supporting cast that failed to make him shine. Noctis was grounded and charismatic without it being forced.
>>5317684157/10 ish
Take it or leave it
>>531769395Ironically, I think it was because they tried to make him like Noctis without understanding what made Noctis work in the first place. They even killed him at the end to make people feel sorry for him and it end up just being confusing.
>>531769612Older Noct was something else. He was the best thing FF has introduced.
>>531769395He was a good character, clive wasn't. It's really that simple.
>>531769867Explain what โworkedโ about Noctis.
>>531771515It's hard to explain, because nothing about sasukek really did work. His boyband almost killed Final Fantasy.
>>531771515>>531771834Way to be too obvious. Noctis is hugely popular and boost any game he shows up in it. He sells merchandise and his posts get plenty of interactions.
>>531753850Bland, boring, and underdeveloped
>>531771834No need to be this bitter just because clive failed. Blame his writers for that.
>>531772258He also got trended a lot unlike certain someone who never got trended once.
>>531772258It's funny how his event in XIV got more excitement than Clive event despite being a second repeat.
>>531772943Happened in BE too. Noctis collab got more interactions than Clive's whose game was just released recently.
>>531773132for me you know it's gotta be Light's new figure
>>531773132Bad face
>>531773397Can't see her face well but it looks better
>>531769212>he was the best selling character in TekkenHeh, this explains why he got a love from Bandai. I remember how they used to celebrate his birthday.
>>531773865Noctis was for sure treated much better in Tekken compared to Cloud in Smash. I wonder if it was because of SE since Cloud was a big hit too in Smash.
Noctis and Lightning have been icons of Final Fantasy for nearly 20 years.
>>531773865+a lot of love
>>531774163Not sure. Maybe because Cloud wasn't a Nintendo character?
>>531773865They also made him befriend one of their characters.
>>531774172Holy fuark she's an irl fashion model
>>531774172Back when FF protagonists used to popular. These days are long gone.
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One true love and tender kissu! Canon and cute couple!
>>531775562To be fair, not every protagonist end being hugely popular. Only few of them did.
>>531774669>They also made him befriend one of their characters.What character?
>>531775562We can return. The formula is simple. SPIKY hair. Fragrance. Supremely good looking characters. Melodrama. Party based roleplay.
>>531775758True, but I think only Vaan who wasn't popular until Clive came along. They usually are well received and few of them are indeed very popular.
>>531775991Is Clive really that unpopular? I think it's unfair to compare him to Noctis who is one of the few exceptions as you mentioned
>>531775829Lars. These two are apparently buddies.
>>531776248He is not hated, but he didn't leave an impact in the audience either.
>>531742781What a sad, miserable cuckold.
No wonder his father left him.
>>531780548elden sister, why do you still have your trip on?
It's incredible how much the thread improves once you filter the word Lightning and anything related to XIII
>>531780848Why are you so mad and aggressive? That's sus, brattan...
>>531780985we could have av.oided this if XVI didn't f.lop.
lmao the lightningfag is very mad right now, it's even trying to dodge the filter like its father dodged responsability for spawning it.
>>531781229This could have all been avoided if Rebirth hadn't sold so few copies that Square Enix never released any celebratory statements regarding its sales. Seriously, that's when all this began, and that's when Lightning avatarfag's alter ego, Paulie, went into a Jimbo death spiral and crashed out so hard that he lost his janny privileges.
Another day, another meltdown.
This isn't /ffg/, this is Black Mesa.
>>531781450What a story
Would be crazy if it was true.
>>531781569Too bad it's a lie that the Lightningfag invented in his grief.
>>531781569I used to get banned all the time for even mentioning the word "Paulie", meanwhile he'd spam Jimbo posts for hours. I also used to get warned for getting into arguments with him, like the time where he asked me to prove that anyone ever thought the Whispers were dead, which I did and provided archives links for, and got a warning for "spamming". This no longer happens, and it stopped occurring exactly when "Paulie" left, which was right before Lightning avatarfag showed up.
>>531781992What a loser that fatherless is.
>>531781992>like the time where he asked me to prove that anyone ever thought the Whispers were dead,Jimbo himself said they were dead, so it must've been easy to look for examples.
>>531781525It was all that negative talk about Clive/XVI.
>>531781229LOL
LMAO EVEN
SO TRUE
>I used to get banned all the time
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>>531773132>retails for 27000 yenwith a pose and stand THAT basic?
>>531781992>I used to get banned all the timeI don't think this should've been something you led off with if you want to come off as innocent.
Why this general so obsessed with gossip? How any of this related to FF in anyway?
>>531783504schizos are born when a game they like/don't like a little too much are getting shit on/praised.
One big group just so happens to take their frustration out on every other title in the series.
>>531783504The motherless hates FF. Ignore/report
>>531783712>admitting that VIIR has more fans compared to the shitty XIII>admitting that the shit XIII has no fansLOL
>>531783504There are 1-3 people here who make it legitimately impossible to talk about Final Fantasy. They've created an environment where the only thing that is allowed to be talked about is themselves.
>>531783712I see this post is already turning into a Rorschach test
I fucking love Dawntrail.
Even if it's a bit odd how your character, by that way, should sadly be jaded at all the weird stuff in the world.
>>531784156There were plenty of people talking FF just fine earlier
Ignore/report off topic trolls
>more filtered posts
Let me guess, Lightningfag doesn't like being ignored.
What a sad cuck.
>I used to get banned all the time
>>531785317Remember when it evaded a ban?
I remember. No wonder its father abandoned it.
>>531785317More than that, he has proven that he's dead set on doing the "no u" to the fatherless thing by saying "motherless". He has revealed that he is extremely bothered by it, to no one's surprise.
The more he posts, the more I'm growing to like the theory that he was unironically a member of the Final Fantasy House. It would explain so much.
>>531785769I mean, it's been doing that for a while. That's how I recognize it when it avoids posting pictures: it will always, always parrot the posts that bother him.
That's how you know you got to him if it starts repeating you. It did so with the "struck a nerve", the pajeet accusation, and now it's trying to do so with the fatherless accusation too.
What a child. Literally not a single original bone in its body.
Even now, it still answers itself.
Yup, it's malding like crazy. Even quoting its own posts while pretending it's not crying.
>>531785524Was Noctis and Lightning friends in Dissidia?
Most of the next thread is going to be us talking about final fantasy instead of that lightning cuck constantly talking about its shit opinions. Screencap this post.
At the end of the next thread we can count up the posts and see for ourselves.
>>531781525It's been going for an hour now
>>531787069Yeah, the Lightningfag can't control itself, really.
>>531786994They had a cool fighting scene together, but he mostly spent time with Cecil and Wol.
>>531787236>WolThe real one from FFXIV, or the fake one from WoFF?
>>531786994I remember him being bestie with Noel and Locke in OO.
>>531787026>it will always, always parrot the posts that bother him>>531786994Kingdom Hearts 4.
>>531787026You struck a nerve, another L for the fatherless.
>>531787463The one in your pic.
>>531787468There were such an odd trio, but they worked so well and had the most genuine friendship in dissidia.
>>531787761So the fake (cute) one.
>>531787468>>531787761Oh man, they were the days. I remember when we used to get excited for the new chapter in OO and how we were making theories and discussing the story.
And yeah, the hunter trio worked so well.
>>531788101The chapter when they found out that Noctis was dead was done well.
>>531788441Good riddance.
>>531788441Noel's reaction was really sad. He got really attached to his buddy Noct.
>>531788101Act 1 and 2 were the best. Act 3 and 4 were meh.
>>531788670Oh yeah, Tidus was pretty upset too.
>>531788441I liked how noctis didn't care when he remembered that he is dead and just wanted to fish kek.
Also, didn't Lightning throw a fit over it and got scolded by Vaan and Tidus?
>>531787651>>531789396It's like 1AM in France, shouldn't this motherless migrant be going to bed in its hostel? And turn your little tripcode back on so everyone can know exactly what you are while you box my shadow. No need to be anonymous when you're just here to spam boogie man posts, right?
>>531787761>>531788441>>531788670>>531789039What I gather from all this discussion popping up, is that Final Fantasy desperately needs a new, quality "Dissidia" compendium title again....maybe even something free to play on PC and console, with an online multiplayer element
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>>531789396Good lord, you really, really angered the fatherless, he's seething. Malding, even.
>>531789551>didn't care when he remembered that he is dead and just wanted to fish kekKING
SHIT
>>531789551If I remember correctly, she was upset that Noctis just accepted his fate and sacrificed his life. Noctis later convinced her that it was his choice to give up his life for his world.
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Have a second serving of the fatherless crying to himself.
>>531790153I wonder how long until the fatherless realizes I'm not his boogeyman, he just pissed me off when he claim that I didn't need all the bonuses from the GBA games in the Pixel Remaster games.
>I used to get banned all the time
>>531789961He was kingly alright and everyone was pretty impressed by him in the game. Even Vayne respected him.
>this is your average Lightningfag
>>531790942Okay this name actually pisses me off. All fucking FOTM animes.
>>531775991>>531776248>>531776780Are you happy? Look what you've done. Do you feel regret for your actions yet?
>>531790941Noctis is great. Truly. One of the very best endings of any game, I will never forget it.
>>531790314>I wonder how long until the fatherless realizes I'm not his boogeyman, he just pissed me off when he claim that I didn't need all the bonuses from the GBA games in the Pixel Remaster games.You don't though. The artistic integrity of the games is there all the same. Except they did weird balance changes for 1 and 3 specifically for some reason.
Who is her FFXIV character dressed as?
>>531791347And this is why everyone hates you, fatherless loser.
>>531791489... I just gifted my dad a new 4K TV to play Clair Obscur on :(
>>531789039>Act 1 and 2 were the best. Act 3 and 4 were mehAgreed. They also flooded the game with ff7 characters shortly before it died which was stupid.
>>531773240>clive released in BE>game immediately announced EoS
>>531791615Shadow boxer strikes again....
>>531791489You struck a nerve, he had to samefag again.
>claims your GBA bonus content
>>531791726The game got too many characters by Act III and the selling point was having the characters interacting with characters from other games which we end up losing when they got scattered by the end of Act II.
And yeah, them focusing so much on VII in its latest days end up driving more people away.
>>531792202>get a brainless fanboy to defend yourself to death>>531792332This. I love VII, but the focus on it pisses me off.
>>531791147Noctis is genuinely one of FF best characters. Even in XIV, he had the best interactions with XIV wol.
>>531792721Wrong. That'd be Cecil.
>>531792721Noctis always had good appearances in any crossover which funnily enough end up making even people who never played his game like him.
>>531792930??? Cecil didn't appear in XIV.
>>531793509That's the joke, you bloody dolt.
>moshi moshi
>GBA bonus content??
>dump it
>>531792721Wait, did he have a story in xiv? In which expansion?
>>531793954She's a big girl
>>531794547No, but Zero is kinda sorta Cecil.
>>531794832Why do you answer your own posts? Is it because your father abandoned you?
Uh oh, it's doing the thing again
>>531794547They are talking about the XIV x XV crossover that happened in 2019. He was a guest character who appeared for an event. Due to the popularity of it, it made two comes back afterwards.
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>>531795338He seems to wake up at 4am and then melt down about Final Fantasy (but mostly his bogeymen) for 16 hours every single day.
>>531795420>2019That just made me thinking, XV is going to be 10 years old next year. Man, how time flies.
My wife Eiko is super cute!
The FFXIV x FFXV crossover is better written than everything in FFXIV.
>>531795241You struck a nerve, he immadiately samefagged.
>>531795530I prefer boogie man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ee3C2m3OXE
>>531795872Nao is so sexo
>all these filtered posts
Let me guess, the fatherless has its 36th meltdown of the night?
So many Ls...
>>531796082>this is what a Lightingfujo looks like
>>531796251A slut? No wonder the fatherless is reminded of its tramp mother.
>>531796442>only two toes
>>531795598And FF is going to have its 40 anniversary in 2027. I wonder if SE is planning something like they did for its 30th anniversary.
>>531796945Things are kind of different now. FF was in much better place in 2017 compared to now so I don't think that they can afford to do something big.
>>531797247>FF was in a better place after the release of XV than it is after the release of XVI
>>531797247Doubt it, with XVI's excellent sales, SE is in the green again.
Through it's true that VIIR's failures to sell properly fucked up their finances a bit.
>>531797247>>531797529It's really pathetic how badly FF was damaged in the last few years. I don't even care for 17 (if it's even a thing).
>>531798130You never did anyway.
>>531798130The worst thing is that people have grown indifferent towards the franchise. It will be hard for them to recover from this.
I don't know who Paulie is...but I'm thinking he won.
>>531798130I don't think XVII will be a thing until they finish with part 3 and who knows when this will happen.
>>531798130The โFF can be anythingโ mantra doesnโt work when every game takes 7+ years to develop. The fact that it doesnโt even have to be an RPG anymore is the most damning thing.
>>531797247>XV is having its 10th anniversary in the end of 2026>FF and VII will have their 40th and 30th in 2027They are having 3 major anniversaries. They must have something planned.
>>531798906My Star is Jill.
https://youtu.be/sl36kjZBLMw?si=hmuA7h2D4fghLty1
>>531801549She deserved to be a playable character and real heroine. Alas.
>>531801549The best FF female lead ever.
Just finished Final Fantasy VI.
It was pretty good. A bit scatterbrained and it dragged in some parts but overall pretty great experience.
I'm going to play VIII or X next.
>>531804070Go for VIII. Just remember: do NOT draw, except G-Forces. Use alchemy and the items you get.
is the general number just made up or what?
>>531804424It's called Roman numerals. They're used by people who aren't fatherless losers.
>>531804070Play X and then play X-2
>>531804424Yeah. Completely made up. If you search the archives, you'll sometimes find a thread with the exact same "thread number" back in like 2021.
How long would it take to play through XI's entire MSQ?
>>531805771Pretty much. I personally made thread 2000 many many years ago (it was an ultros OP). Weโre only on thread 2138 now. Someone fucked up the number massively at some point and no one noticed or cared enough to fix it.
>>531807396No one cares about Final Fantasy
>>531807396>Someone fucked up the number massively at some point and no one noticed or cared enough to fix it.It has been fucked up multiple times, sometimes likely on purpose. Sometimes we go backwards. Sometimes it seems like they just chop off some of the numerals.
>>531807396We should remove that cringe roman number shit from the OP
>>531784318Dawntrail is the new great filter
Wuk Lamat saved XIV
>>531808553>positive post about FF>it's a falseflagThis keeps happening. I think it might always be true.
>>531808553She is a filter. She filters out anyone who isnโt a total shit eater.
>>531805639Seconding FFX-2. It's FFV, but better.
>>531806713I did it in a year. 3-6 months if you're focused and less retarded than me.
It's phenomenal though, I highly recommend.
>>531804070>>531805639>>531812798Disregard lesbian spinoff trash
Embrace the Quintessential FFV.
Embrace the Quintessential FFV.
>convinced my zoomer friend to try out ffx
>dropped the game in luca because he thought all the blitzball shit was mega gay
I cant even get mad because hes right
>>531819439He is right. You can't even get mad.
>>531819439FFX is mega gay in general
never understood the appeal desu
>>531820034I can see the appeal, but I can see the appeal of X-2 even more.
>>531812798https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joxfo8CX7eY
>>531820034PS2 graphics hype. Got dethroned in moviegame memery later by Shadow of the Colossus (although niche) and The Last of Us (not at all niche). You could say it shaped the modern Playstation game paradigm, which retroactively speaking isn't that great.
I'm still shaking that they named the scene "water burial"
GRRRR. Forgot to take my HRT for a few day straight since then. Fuck you Square enix
>>531823125Based Conquistadors BTFO all butt mad brownoids going on 500 years running.
>>531842137due to Tifa the cheap substitute created out of Nomura's nasty fap materials that appeals to subhumans indeed has a fanbase full of subhumans unironically looks like this, (self-inserting in/femcels are even worse than this)
anything should be done with extra cautious.
>>531808553She's cute, but DAMN she's annoying.
At this point of the plot, I went from destroying the Singer of the Apocalypse to babysitting a princess.
>>531798906"Bright star, would I were stedfast as thou artโ
Not in lone splendour hung aloft the night
And watching, with eternal lids apart,
Like nature's patient, sleepless Eremite,
The moving waters at their priestlike task
Of pure ablution round earth's human shores,
Or gazing on the new soft-fallen mask
Of snow upon the mountains and the moorsโ
Noโyet still stedfast, still unchangeable,
Pillow'd upon my fair love's ripening breast,
To feel for ever its soft fall and swell,
Awake for ever in a sweet unrest,
Still, still to hear her tender-taken breath,
And so live everโor else swoon to death."
"And as, in sparkling majesty, a star
Gilds the bright summit of some gloomy cloud;
Brightening the half veil'd face of heaven afar:
So, when dark thoughts my boding spirit shroud,
Sweet Claire, celestial influence round me shed,
Waving thy silver pinions o'er my head!"
>>531852803>>531853037I love heroine's so much it's unreal
>>531848068Least insane Aerithschizo
>>531853037This is her worst design.
>>531855842This is her best design.
>>531857138It's definitely not well.
>>531857295I'm still partial to the original Guardian Corps myself. Add on a cute beret? Now we're talking.
Lightning's valkyrie suit is objectively one of the best FF designs of all time. No question
In the middle of playing 4 and just learned I missed the dualcast augment. Is it worth restarting for?
>>531855842Will we ever see her again?
What with the fattherless spamming his trash?
>>531857561Can't argue with that.
>>531857962I can guarantee it.
>>531859079Bigu Bossu-kun sugooiiiiii~
>>531860703>hatCute! Cute I say!
>>531864478They have sex...imagine how acrobatic and out of this world it would be
>>531864913Needs some dry, rough ANAL
>>531864702The question is, will Cloud have enough stamina to last long enough to satisfy Tifa? She did beat both Cloud and Barret during the Shinra Building Stair climbing marathon after all
>>531866368Lol! Nothing a little Haste and a Regen can't fix, I don't think.
SE would never do something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lLJAzw6Qa4
>>531868219>AI generated E33 clone slop
I loved Vagrant Story and I wish FFXII were longer and had more world lore.
>>531843580Many such cases.
>>531848956>babysitting a princess Could have been peak with better writing and a cuter girl.
>>531871987XI needs a remake.
>>531872507A remaster like the one Oblivion just got would work really well for XI.
Keep the engine, keep the spaghetti code, just slap a new coat of paint and UI on top.
I don't think SE has the knowhow to rewrite XI's codebase nor to Remake it from the ground up, so a Remaster is probably the best case scenario.
>>531870251There is a timeline where the Ivalice games continued and the Fabula Nova disaster never happened.
A world where Sakaguchi and Matsuno stayed at Square and continued to create masterful works of art.
Alas, it was never meant to be.
>>531873270Why was the FF11 Remake cancelled anyway?
>>531874464It was outsourced to Nexxon and they weren't producing quality that was up to SE's expectations.
This happened with a lot of games including 7R and they started moving most in house.
SE decided to pivot to an XIV Mobile instead.
>>531874464XI still pulling in money. Any remaster would likely diminish if not outright end that source of cash flow
Development cost exceeding projected sales. IE cost more to do than XI is currently making
Restructure and reworked focus after SE wasted time and millions developing non-FF and DQ games that no one wanted.
Mobile games failing to produce any revenue outside EC
>>531874368>the Fabula Nova disaster never happened.It's actually crazy the disparity between how cool they made FNC sound versus how lame and botched it ended up being.
Arciela is as bad as a character as Wuk, thoughever.
Yoshida is pretty lucky that XI isn't really relevant in the current zeitgeist, because I feel like Dawntrail copypasting almost beat by beat the plot of Adoulin should be a bigger deal than it currently is.
>>531875447Not even close, and you should feel really bad for thinking this.
>>531877181True. I found it funny that Dawntrail copied so much from Adoulin yet got literally everything wrong and wrote it all so poorly.
What made Dawntrail bad is that Yoshida is no longer really on XIV, and neither is Koji Fox, and neither is Ishikawa. Instead, we've got Hiroi and Kate. Though if Dawntrail supposedly copied Adoulin, is it not then fitting that there is an XI raid attached to it? Why is the game full of homages always considered by /ffg/ to be "copying" things?
>>531877576Correct. They lack quality staff due to the best being promoted out. Yoshi has already said as much.
The XI raid was pretty great so no complaints there.
>>531877651the moment SE wrote apology messages that they would remove the W word (water burial) from now on
based based base
>>531877576Because there's obviously a degree of difference in being an hommage to larger thematics / surface level similarities and being a suspiciously very-indepth ctrl + c / ctrl + v with little else to show for it (the XI Raid never acknowledges the similarity either, since it focuses on different eras of the game). Both FF3 and XIV feature a Crystal Tower, but the ones in both games follow a completely different story.
Would FF17 still have gotten cancelled if FF16 was good?
>>531878901FF16 was good.
>>531878567I just can't agree with this. I've never felt as if XIV is "copying" something while /ffg/ has said so many times, though I've never played XI.
Kino Fantasy 16 is the best FF game
>>531879089It was so good we don't need another one
The series should have ended at 16
>>531879089On opposite day.
>>531879089maybe on Planet Retard
>>531879089said no one ever
>>531879089I don't know about all of that, but it is good.
It's really too bad that SE cancelled all the AA titles due to Rebirth flopping so hard.
Will Final Fantasy be able to recover now that 7R fatigue has set in?
Feels like XIII series all over again desu
>>531879575That's what happens when a bad franchise-defining game gets released.
>>531879089Wow. The samefag really did not like this post.
>>531879089FF16 was such a great game that a large portion of fans convinced themselves that it was bad just so they wouldn't want to play the series anymore, knowing that it would never be that great again and every subsequent game would be a huge disappointment by comparison.
>>531879713FF16 doesn't have fans
>>531879043>though I've never played XII mean, I don't think a lot of people even among XI players even played Adoulin, it's probably why not a lot bothered when the story had much more immediate problems to address. But it was a particularly displeasing experience when the game was usually much more elegant about this.
FF16 is the best game in the series no cap
>>531879713Do you have to like every game in this series to post here or something? I find that a lot of of the FF16 hate comes from people who really fucking love FFX15.
What the fuck is happening all of a sudden?
>>531880137The samefag got triggered by a post which he replied to multiple times.
>>531879846I really liked Adoulin
>>531880137Shitposters wasted all their gooner images this morning and didnโt catch any (You)s so now theyโre back to bringing up XVI and retards keep falling for the bait.
>>531880137Report and ignore
>>531880486I'm so-so on it. Didn't care for the plot but the scale of the areas, the labyrinthine clusterfuck of obstacles that needed who knows how many sidequests and mats to even effectively traverse all culminating in the final area left a pretty deep impression nonetheless. It's a shame the current landscape doesn't lend itself to these sort of deliberately un-welcoming but incredibly satisfying to conquer playfields, I doubt we'll ever get something like that from Square ever again.
>>531879896based FF16 is absolute fire skibidi byurfff sheesh fr no cap
>>531882563>byurfffThat's a new one for me.
So do you think they cancelled the ff9 remake? Or did it ever even exist in the first place?
>>531883882There's a third option. It's still happening, just not this year because they're already doing Tactics Remaster.
>>531884270Do SE even have any big announcements for 2026 already?
I feel like they would announce part 3 for ff7 next year no?
>>531884465>>I feel like they would announce part 3 for ff7 next year no?I'm not thinking so. I'm thinking 2027.
>>531884465Very little demand for 7R3
So they will likely go all in on FF9 Remake next year,
and that's a good thing.
>>531885506>Very little demand for 7R3It's going to be absolutely disastrous is 7R3 sells even worse than Rebirth did.
Hopefully they do a day 1 super bundle release of all 3 games and the Yuffie DLC, for the same price as a regular day 1 release. So, 3 games for the price of one... because it's actually only 1 game, it wasn't supposed to be 3 games. If they do this, they might be able to sell 3 million copies in the first week. If they don't do this, it's going to flop even harder than Rebirth did.
>>531883882Never existed, just like 99% of gaming rumors
Woke up today and decided that I'm pissed off that Tactics Remastered exists, considering that it's quite possible that it exists because Triangle Strategy 2 was cancelled.
So far, the only interesting thing Tactics Remastered offers is difficulty options, everything else gameplaywise is something that a normal person with an IQ of 85+ can emulate. We'll see how things go with balancing, but either way, I'd rather have TS2 than another lazy remaster with a collector's edition (physical disc and game codes sold separately).
>>531751478 (OP)Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>531885915i actually havent even played any of the ff7 remake, because i hate this piece meal shit, im just going to wait until all 3 parts are out.
>>531887815Many such cases.
Most of Rebirth's praise comes from gooners that didn't even buy it.
>>531887136>I'd rather have TS2 than another lazy remasterThat's not what "the fans" say. It's Remakes and Remasters forever. We HATE new things.
>>531751850It's far from perfect but over time, I'm appreciating some of its attempts.
>>531751850Best fishing since Sea of Thieves.
And I do appreciate Noctis' personality, he isn't whiny like Cloud or a dick like Squall.
>>531887815I wonder how many people will be doing this only to burn themselves out halfway through Rebirth. The full length of Remake + Rebirth + Part 3 will probably be too much for most people to handle. Rebirth was a great game but after 100 hours on my initial playthrough I was starting to become eager for it to be over during chapter 13.
>>531891623If you only do the story and do none of the side shit or endless minigames, the whole trilogy would probably be like playing a Persona game. It'd only become a problem for the type of people who need to do all the minigame shit, but I feel like those people aren't capable of holding out for the full release of the game.
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>>531892685BUH BUH BUH BASEEEEED
>>531751850Its easy to appreciate the ambition behind it while acknowledging its pitfalls.
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Happy 34th anniversary to the Quintessential FFIV.
Aerith is too petite for dick
>>531892685>retard doesn't know how the filter works
>>531900283She's built for Nanaki's cock
>>531892685How do I use this?
>>531890816Would you say Noctis is one of the best protagonists in the series?
>>531877181Endwalker wouldn't have been so ass if it at least bothered to copy Rhapsodies like SHB aped Promathia tbqh.
>>531901851Has been from the moment he was first revealed.
>>531901023Yeah, I know. I don't know what the true retard is even implying.
>>531901403Put it into the "Comments" section of your filter list in 4chanx. I think default 4chan might also have a filter option now, but I haven't default 4chan in such a long time that I can't say for sure.
>>531901851Also yes. Based Christ allegory > gay satanic retarded 33yo yelling like Naruto.
>>531901851Irrefutable. Afraid so.
>>531901851There was never any doubt.
Final Fantasy XV Remake....
>>531901851Definitely better than Cloud and Clive for sure.
>>531907730They need to finish the original in order to remake it anon.
>>531907730How about XIII Remake for the PS6!
Average Japanese fan age.
>>531910019>BABY METAL's fanbase is 55 year old dudes>Final Fantasy's fanbase is mostly 42 year old dudes with some girls alsoDamn. I guess the reason /ffg/ sucks so much really is because there is at least one Final Fantasy House member here.
decided to make bartz (LV2), leena (LV4), galuf (LV5), and faris (LV3) to get each of the LV spells for blue magic. I'll have to get magic hammer for world II (Galuf's world). Getting Aqua Breath was a challenge until I got Dragoon and I had Bartz (and Faris) as bait to learn, throw lightning scrolls, and have Leena Jump to finish the job to learn both Aqua Breath and Jump. Now just to finish up those three bosses in Bartz' world. Yes I'm working on the bestiary and checking.
>>531910019>>531910892I feel most of these are because the japanese pretty much stopped having children 20 years ago, so their averages are driven up.
>>531913810>japanese pretty much stopped having children 20 years agoSo it's a non-Chinese Asian "epidemic" then? Can't say I blame them. I personally don't want kids. Everything else aside, the world isn't really in such a place that I'd want to force another soul to unwillingly experience it.
>>531914878You got nothing out of playing Final Fantasy I see. How sad.
>>531915204You struck a nerve, the Korean can't even muster a response.
>>531915365Death and suffering don't make life meaningless, rather they make life meaningful and capable of change.
Well Stellar Blade has gone crypto so much for beating FF
>>531917072This feels awfully random. Was their account hacked or something?
>>531905602What are the differences between Versus XIII Noctis and XV Noctis?
>>531901851Personally?
No.
He has a good personality, but I don't find him heroic or inspirational. He feels too average for a Final Fantasy game.
>>531921256V. Noctis was more self centered and only really cared about his bros. According to his voice actor.
XV Noctis was a friend to all who would help out anyone on his journey.
>>531922379Noct is a good boy
>>531926392*shitty character in a shitty game
>>531927094That'd be Lightning.
>>531917930Yeah, they were hacked
https://x.com/jamm3rd/status/1946577824904851659?s=46
T average final fantasy fan is even older than I am, and I already thought I was an old man
>>531933429Ya know though, if you wanted to drop a pump and dump Crypto, this would be a great way to do it. Then you say you were hacked and all's good.
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>>531933745Franchise debuted in the 80s so thatโs expected.
>>531933745So what the fuck do zoomers even like if everyone is a boomer?
Fortnite? Minecraft?
>>531933745Why did Yoshitpiss fail to move the needle towards a younger demographic?
>>531940938XVI wasn't a gacha full of cute underage girls or a battle royale
>>531940938Still mad that your WoW gold farm got dismantled?
>>531942827XIV completely lost all gains made during covid and the wow exodus. You lost.
>>531942827You angered the street shitter.
>>531942827lol you were right
>>531940938Angered the c.ult, good work.
>>531944239It's so very angry right now. Losing his WoW gold farm pissed it off so much that he has to take his laptop outside to post while shitting himself.
>>531945506Where's stellar blade?
>>531945506I fucking love Ghost of Tsushima. Forspoken, Valhalla, Ride 5, Dead Island and Sniper Elite can go fuck themselves.
Especially Sniper Elite.
>>531944435>the child is still scared his posts are getting filtered
>>531945994At least he's inadvertently self identifying his posts that don't have Lightning attached to them now.
>both versions of Remake
>no Rebirth
>no XVI
>>531946083Even when it's trying to go incognito, his autism get him spotted.
>>531946142>soulstorm>enhanced editionBut Soulstorm was ALREADY enhanced! What the fuck is this?
>>531944435It's doing the shadow boxing routine again. I don't know exactly how or why you set him off though...guess Yoshi really is a soft spot
>>531946520>What the fuck is this?What I want to know is what is Forspoken and FFVIIR doing inside of every single recommended page
>>531940938many such cases
>>531947043Simple, Square paid for the advertisement.
Because you won't convince me that a game like Mortal Shell deserves to be on the front page.
What's Eiyuden Chronicle? I like the art.
>>531945506>ForspokenVIII bros we made it!
>>531944647Reminder that XIV is going so broke they donโt even have enough money to make an easy mode version of a raid. Meanwhile WoW is Blizzards main money maker.
>>531947365If you knew anything, you'd know that none of the money XIV makes goes back into XIV. That's like the main pain point its players have. Dawntrail seems to be a B team effort, with Yoshida and Koji Fox and Ishikawa being somewhere else, but definitely not on XIV. It's Hiroi and Kate's game now.
>>531945994>filtering posts>comes to 4chan to get upset at words
>>531944647You angered it so much, it had to take a 28-minutes-long crying break.
Based.
>>531947112Another common L for XVI
>>531947630>you'd know that none of the money XIV makes goes back into XIV. That's like the main pain point its players haveThis is and has always been cope from the retarded fanbase.
XVI proved that no amount of money can hide the lack of talent in CBU3.
>>531947918>proudly and willfully ignorant for the sake of making the same shitposts over and over again for literal years of his lifeI accept your concession.
>nomura is the director for ever crisis
What did he mean by this?
>>531948014Strangely, this wasn't a denial of what I said
>>531948014The Indian fatherless gold farmer isn't very bright, please understand.
>>531948069Toriyama is the director of ever crisis.
>>531948208lol
no
Only play Forspoken if you have a gun pointed at your head and you're ordered to pick between Forspoken and Final Fantasy XIII.
>>531948329May I ask why?
>>531948618Because FFXIII is worse than Forspoken, duh.
>>531948129>XVI browns think you can call anyone else indian when you are the indians of /ffg/
>>531948129You angered the fatherless, he's literally shaking right now.
>>531948208It was actually okay, better than expected, not worth full price obviously. An FF-like "4 elemental crystals" stock adventure meets inFamous with a little bit of horror, the story is a babby tier isekai made for Black girls with some of the most painful dialogue ever. Japanese voices made everything 10x more tolerable. Some really nice elemental effects.
>>531948129He's very upset. He's going to be spamming and samefagging for hours now. Final. Fantasy. House. It's literally him.
>>531949397Yup, but worse.
At least the Final Fantasy House had parents, he doesn't since his father walked out on him.
>>531949397>>531949484I always suspected he was a pajeet: he's way too focused on skin colour.
Normal people are focused on race, but Indians are always about skin colour.
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>>531948903Am I meant to project into this... creature?
>>531950419Frey's a retarded nigress yeah. She acts like a retarded criminal who is unlikable as fuck at first and eventually becomes a heroine by the end. She's a fatherless and a motherless, unfortunately for her. Her voice actress is indeed terrible, she doesn't actually speak like an "American" because she's an English woman. And I'm pretty racist...but this chick is objectively beautiful. Very tall. With a Japanese voice actress Frey becomes quite tolerable overall as a femc, far more spunky and happy go lucky. Her writing is throwaway garbage that was overriden 10 different times by 11 different retarded Americans that were all shoved onto a big budget JRPG studios project because Square Enix wanted Larry Finklestein shekels. If Frey Holland had been written by Japanese people or by the original scenario writer (Agni's Philosophy) it wouldn't have been so critically panned at all. Because the gameplay is actually good.
Imagine this was the standard for a "Black woman" face actress. She looks like Sheva from RE5 in the flesh
>>531951946>retarded criminalSo just a criminal, then.
If they were smart, they wouldn't be crooks.
>she doesn't actually speak like an "American"Good. I'm not racist but I hate how American women speaks.
"Ain't nobody got time fo' this shit y'all."
SPEAK
ENGLISH
NOT EVERYONE GREW UP IN YOUR FUCKING GHETTO
SPEAK ENGLISH OR HAVE SUBTITLES
In FFXIV, how do I know what song every area use? I'd like to get my hands on Lyhe Mheg's area for my own nefarious purpose, but I can't find it in the OST folder.
>>531952616Download the plugin Orchestrion. It tells you the song title of every area you enter.
>>531948692>Barry discovered that his nemesis was as brown as him all along
>>531952227Well...she definitely tries to sound like an American. If you haven't seen the memes of the game then just ignore that. If you ever touch the game on a whim like I did then switch to Japanese immediately and you won't suffer the same at all.
The parkour is fun, there's some vast and impressive areas with a minimalist "low fantasy" aesthetic, nice down to earth side quests for characterizations, simple and fun magical elemental powers with different mechanics. Aerial finishers and flashy acrobatic dodges with interesting animations. You can hit a flaming Dragoon Jump or flaming High Braver at will. You can fight hand to hand with flaming Wing Chun and do cartwheels. There's no cooldowns, just do whatever you want. Difficult roaming super bosses will kick your shit in if you step too close under leveled. Huge storms will spawn in massive waves of enemies and bosses forcing you to flee to shelter. Casual action RPG elements for healing/crafting. An FFXV-like with no car or fetch quests. Just combat and traversal.
>>531953315There's no option by default?
Also, I found it, it's "Garden's Gates". Just had to type it on youtube.
>>531953965OH THAT CAT IS THE BEST
And I dunno, you make it sound fun.
>some enemies WILL be stronger than you, so you can't just walk in every zone as you want.
>>531955102You'll have to excuse the cultist. The love Nomura, and they hate Yoshida. Everything related to Yoshida that they perceive is good is actually someone else, and everything they perceive as bad is 100% entirely Yoshida. Conversely, everything perceived as negative that is related to Nomura is actually not Nomura no matter how many times he's done it before and instead is someone else. Meanwhile, even things that have absolutely nothing to do with Nomura are 100% entirely Nomura's doing or were inspired completely by Nomura.
I was going to play Final Fantasy...
but I decided to play Donkey Kong Bananza instead.
>>531956837Bamboozled again!
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>>531953691Why are they like this?
>>531954263The game was fun. I can be easily entertained I'm not going to lie, but the reality is there is things to like about the way it's been put together. There are some quality things in the game development, despite the massive 100 million dollar missteps.
There's some inFamous with the freerunning and TPS superpowers, but also it's FFXV with the automated airstepping/flying and switching your weapon to deliver RPG moves power fantasy. In many ways the gameplay is somewhat better than FFXV or even XVI (not the highest bar) because of the way it gets progressively better at a faster pace with far less downtime. Definitely better magics and "Jobs" representation despite only having the 4 elements. It's nicely freeform, and it has good control if not a little bit floaty. You swipe the touchpad to swap between them and you can string together all manner of different crazy elemental moves. I shouldn't say there's no cooldowns because you do have cooldowns on the big ultimate attacks like summoning massive pillars of fire around the arena or erecting a massive firewall. But there's no cooldowns on your kit that you use on each element and there's a surprisingly decent variety of moves and combos and aerials to use and you have to switch based on enemy elements. It's not a juggle fest combo game though, it's too frantic and you're too defenseless. There are only 4 elements though and you only get one element at a time so it's extremely basic. Frey is basically Ashe from Evil Dead with the power of The Avatar.
>>531956837His art was so good. Sad to hear.
Is there anyone talented even left at SE?
this world needs more anon x krile or bartz x krile hentai
>>531955336>>531955102>>531948250>>531948069https://www.mobygames.com/game/208518/final-fantasy-vii-ever-crisis/credits/android/?autoplatform=true
A tale as old as Kingdom Hearts
>>531958894Just like his position in the Remake trilogy
>>531956837Is this the game that was inspired by FFXV?
>>531962693I love this goblin so much
Is there a tutorial mode for ff16? I bought the game on PC when it came out, but got sick a week later and put it down and then just never went back to it. Decided to try and pick it up again and man do I just not remember shit about the combat system. I got 16 hours in it, am I just better off restarting?
>>531955102>>531955336All this crying and relying on AI just to get proven wrong.
>>531967826I think you have a training mode in the Hideaway (although I don't remember where, the teleporting stone thing?) but you can't "redo" the tutorials if that's what you mean. I wouldn't worry too much honestly, XVI is braindead
I will defend Nomura's honor with my life, no matter what.
>>531968948Someone saw this post and thought this was making fun of him for some reason. Why?
I will defend Vanille's honor with my life, no matter what.
>>531969496It's a mystery, but I'd bet money that this is a daily occurrence for him. He seems rather practiced.
playing real ffvii again with a mod that lets me save aeris. damn her limit breaks are good as hell.
Would she have sex with anyone other than Cloud?
Is FFXV a better game than FFXVI?
>>531982965Yes. Top 5 FF games.
I don't care about XV and XVI
>>531982965Hmm. XV has a stronger story, characters, and music, while XVI features a better combat system. However, XVI lacks a party system.
Oh, and XV has fishing.
I'm practicing my Japanese because I'm garbage.
Been playing old JPRGs because I'm a fun guy.
I see the "What Version to Play" but it doesn't have a weird question I have. There's the base Famicom version of FF1, there's also a two-pack version with 1 and 2 on one cart.
Are these versions different in anyway, or are they just a direct transfer of the games to a single cart?
>>531982965There's more to talk about with XV
Its hard to rate one over the other because they're both bad.
>>531986225I found a source on Youtube that compared them. Seems like it has some minor color changes, and typo fixes mostly. Good luck, y'all.
>>532016916Cover up your forehead
>>532016916>only remake pics>other people picsYou are no aerith fan
>>532016916We know, Cloud
>>532016916You angered the Tifakek (singular) who has a small weewee
>>531901851Absolutely and I have been saying this for years. He is very likable and his journey was touching.
>>532020130least insane aerith schizos
>>532020130What happened? I read all of it and I'm still confused. Did they change something or people are just angry at the title?
>>532020894They changed "Water Burial" to "Prayer Altar".
>>532021287Was this some Jap thing?
>>532021287I get that, but I don't get what is the problem. Was the issue the title or something else? What's the context here?
>>532020130>>532020513>>532021657Reminder that they also changed the date titles due to fan reactions
Shippers are not the sanest people, but they are the only people who would go so far as to play a Final Fantasy VII autobattle gacha game
>>532021657Shippers have never been able to accept her death.
Rebirth kept her "alive" now the gacha is insensitive for implying she's dead again.
>>532022093>autobattle gacha gamethat's every gacha game.
>>532022169>that's every gacha game.Well, no, it's not. Even if you think that, some of them are more autobattle than others, and Ever Crisis is one of the most autobattle gachas
>>532022263>he actually plays gacha games to know this.this isn't the win that you hoped it was.
>>532022360>this isn't the win that you hoped it was....why are you like this? I'm simply describing something
You don't need to be needlessly antagonistic about everything
>>532022360The moment he tried to speak negatively about some ff7 media, he was finished
>>532022613no one was defending ff7 here retard.
>>532022093>>532022159That's ridiculous. It's her death that made her memorable to begin with and why shippers are still fighting? Cloud/Tifa was always the endgame.
>>532022704Well, it's Tifa shippers who demanded that Aerith's more favorable date title be changed.
>>532022093If Aerith is the promised partner, why did she die?
>>532022825Talk about bring insecure. They got their endgame and they are still feel threatened by Aerith?
I think the saddest shippers are the ones so deep into the cult that they no longer see their ship as anything other than canon, and everything that contradicts it is non canon, so they're "not even shippers" themselves. However they bring up their favourite CANON pairing constantly and punch down NON CANON pairings... but totally don't engage in ship wars because they aren't shippers. They just spend all their time doing the exact same thing.
At least shippers can accept what they are. These ones are shippers who need to lie to themselves so they don't have to accept they're acting just as badly.
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>>532023218I personally think being a shipper is pathetic. Thinking a couple looks cute together or simply enjoying their interactions is different matters than being obsessed with it and making it your identity.
>>532022996I don't know, Tifag. I don't know, and I don't care
I'm just giving the other side of the story; Tifa shippers are also insane
>>532023138They feel incredibly threatened by Aerith, and the perceive all """opposition""" to be Aerithfags
There is a Tifag here who thinks that Nomura's lore drop that Sephiroth's Masamune has an organic quality to it is unimportant, he refuses to watch videos to educate himself on the matter, but then he did watch the video after all, and after he educated himself he started saying that Aerithfags (for some reason) are retarded for insinuating that "possessed" = "organic", when people were only ever using Nomura's own wording, so he has inadvertently called Nomura a retarded Aerithfag. This same person is now foaming at the mouth for any news about Ever Crisis because apparently Aerith's death is now the most recent patch, and he's posting it here to "own" his perceived enemy, who is neither an Aerithfag nor a Tifag. That's how upset Aerith makes this person
>>532023636Well lore-wise she can't be the promised one, but water burial is lore correct.
>>532023820But they aren't shipping anyone?
Are you just upset because someone dared to disagree with you?
>>532023820Still not lore accurate. Call it hot date or childhood friend always lose or something.
This is a pretty good microcosm of 7R discourse.
It's kind of funny how VII legacy has become mainly shipping. Like seriously, imagine fighting over someone like Cloud.
>>532024146For real, though. Cloud isn't a big catch. Dude is a schizo and fraud.
>>532023994>Are you just upset because someone dared to disagree with you?...no one is disagreeing with me though. I'm stating a truth. It's impossible to disagree with. It's so impossible to disagree with in fact that he did not even attempt to disagree with me and instead pivoted to insulting me based on my knowledge that Ever Crisis is an autobattle gacha and nothing more
>>532024106It's something that made Tifa fans upset, just like this Water Burial thing is presumably something that made Aerith fans upset
>>532024146How do grown men end up becoming shippers anyway?
>>532024353It amazes me how Aerith schizos prefer Cloud over Zack after all the Compilation stuff.
>>532024561Chinese yuri shippers do it out of a desire for threesomes.
>>532024561Weightlifting and plenty of sex
As someone who is none of anyone's named bogeymen, it amazes me how every single time I post anything, someone immediately labels me as a [thing]fag or calls me the pet name they have for one of their personal enemies.
>>532025014That what I I have been saying for a long time. Aerith was the real winner here by getting Zack and Tifa had to deal with a manchild who she needs to babysit.
Hits differently doesn't it?
>>531986046Seeing them together like this makes it quite clear that Clive was inspired by Noctis.
/bogeymen/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>532025782As a grown man, how did you end up like this?
>>532025260The Djiboutian X-2fag got extremely upset over this, good job.
>>532026383It was clear from the beginning. Young Jill looks like a copycat of young Luna plus the white compo design and the Shiva connection.
>>532026504How do grown men usually act like?
>>532026383We got a 30 something Clive precisely because of old Noctis being a success.
>>532026571XVI took a lot of inspiration from XV. It's why Yoshida mocking XV every chance he got was ironic.
>>531986046Part of me wants to see Noctis and Clive interact, other part of me doesn't want to see Clive ever in a Dissidia game.
>>532027256I don't think we will have a dissidia game anytime soon until (maybe) ff17 become a thing.
>>532026982Genuinely embarrassing deflection. When your father was your age did he post modded videogame cutscenes as a part of a ship war? You know exactly what I'm talking about.
You are a grown man, yes? What makes you partake in this petty pointless nonsense for 14 year old girls?
>>532026982You REALLY struck a nerve. I didn't expect him to fly off the handle like that.
>>532027806You're pathetic. Struck a nerve? You didn't even say anything about me. But all you have is deflection, samefagging, and stock bot responses.
You, and the other guy you're talking to, (haha) both have no answer because you both know this behaviour is truly sad. You can't even try to honestly defend the way you act. And you'll continue to do it.
>>532027679Your pursuit is admirable, but he's already decided that he's not a shipper and does not participate in shipper drama wars. Hopefully you understand that there is nothing that can cut through this sort of cognitive dissonance.
Stop bullying shippers, you know they have absolutely no defence for their behaviour. Their lives are miserable enough, please don't hold a mirror up to them.
>FFX and FFXII are years and years old and in all that time no one figured out how to make basic animation edits to the game
>all that's possible is model edits and changing certain aspects of gameplay
At least VII has discourse, unlike XVI.
>>532029450For a game with no discourse, you sure do bring it up multiple times per day.
>>532031721Of course people bring it up, VII is THE poster child of Square after all.
>>532031721It's the latest mainline so of course people will bring it up a lot here. It's not like we have much to talk about besides the boogeymen.
>>532033313XVI sometimes feels like an ancient game, but it's only 2 years old.
>>531753850A decent character action game locked behind playing through a boring mashing simulator twice
>>532034075>A decent character action gameif only it was decent
>>532034137XVI was more than decent.
It was 10/10 high fantasy kino.
>>532035967Naruto at least has Tobirama. XVI got nothing on him.
>>531795652Itโs significantly better written than the Terra Battle collab quest, thatโs for sure
Gooch nepotism collabs are always AIDS
I thought the Terra Battle collab was good...
>>531769395About Tekken itself, T8 was in a bad, BAD situation in need of fixing for MONTHS with radio silence from devs. Then at the end of the Season 1's finale where players wanted balance changes or returning characters, a guest character arrived which wasn't what people requested (many FF players requested Tifa) but Clive's also a sword user in a 90% fistfighting game. The few sword users are special for it. Then S2 started and everything got even worse.
Basically, wrong place, wrong time, and this isn't including technical issues like lagging Clive and stage's effects caused. T8 Online added a new thing which penalizes you if you disconnect, to punish ragequitting I guess, but it also punishes you if you legitimately lag out and online boots you out too.
>>532036809Me too. Noctis and Sara were a good team and their interactions were fun.
>>532037092I think he meant in general, but that's an interesting read. Still, Clive isn't appealing to begin with which makes him a boring addition regardless of the technical issues.
>>532036407Tobirama was too good for Naruto anyway.
>the people who talk about XVI all day every day so that there is no discourse
Curious.
>>531885506>Implying thereโs more demand for a 9 remake9 fans are like the FF equivalent of TTYD fans huh
>>532037953But they did that
>>531982965XVI has better combat if youโre willing to put in the time it takes to unlock Ultimanic
XV has better everything else
>>532034540>not even the first antagonist named Ultima in the series
>>532037921There is no discourse, there is only shitposting.
>>532034540Reminder that if you're an alien god trying to hijack people's bodies, don't go after the chosen one with all the magic monsters inside him. Take his son's body instead.
>>532039154Generally, I feel like that if your plan relied on taking over some all-powerful guy's body, it'd be better to prepare more effective methods than saying "give me your body pretty pwease" over and over.
>>532038764There is daily discussion of XVI, usually multiple times per day, perpetrated by the exact same person/people who repeatedly says that there is no discourse and that no one remembers or talks about XVI. It's very strange. Very likely the same exact people who are constantly thinking and posting about Yoshida while proclaiming that everyone else is a cultist.
>>532039435The man who isn't racist against Uchihas.
The man fought against the Uchiha. His father and clan outright hated them. But he didn't get in the way of Uchiha-Senjews forming the leaf. Also didn't hold any lingering hate for the Uchihas who killed his own family even after Madara later betrayed his own brother and tried to harm the village.
He took time to study and understand them as people. Understood their love and edginess was part of their biological nature and accepted their strengths and faults. As Hokage, he could have took them out or discriminated against them like what happened under the 3rd. It wouldn't be surprising given his personal history and Black Zetsu manipulating them behind the scenes. Yet no such things happened under Tobirama's reign. He tried his best to make them useful and part of the village. Logically assigning them to jobs they could excel at, trusting them with police authority, and even gave them prime lands to live in. He even took in an Uchiha as his pupil, raised him right, and died protecting him. That is not the action of a RACIST.
Black Zetsu and Madara were manipulating war between Uchiha and Senju, but there was no war between them during that time. Only wars against other nations. It was one of the few times in history WITHOUT between Uchiha and Senju.
TL;DR
>Uchiha revolts under the 2nd: No>Uchihacaust deaths during 2nd's reign: 0>Uchiha revolts under the 3rd: Yes>Uchihacaust deaths during 3rd's reign: All (except 2)He didn't hate them nor did he fetishize them like Orochimaru/Danzo did either.
If anyone is NOT racist.
It's Tobirama.
>>532039435He was the second Hokage. The one who rightfully hated the emo clan who end up as useful idiots for the space alien.
>>531885506>>532037953As a cultured enjoyer of both, can confirm.
FFIX and TTYD are both excellent games with sizable fanbases.
>>532039435The one who didn't dick the Uchiha hard enough. The proper way to deal with Uchiha is to fuck them. Make love, not war. Make babies, not battles. The evil Uchiha are the ones who failed to receive proper sexual intercourse. Madara failed to get Hashirama's wood. Obito failed to get Rin. In all those cases, the absence of sex is what caused it. The proper way is to dick the Uchiha so they would happily accept your dominance as they give birth to your kids. Tobirama admits that they are a clan of love, they just react equally negatively if spurred or tragedy occurs. Thus, the correct way is to constantly show them love and endlessly dick them into submission. To9birama isolated them away where they were deprived of Senju dick for decades. It's no wonder the Uchiha went crazy.
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>>532039519I'm not sure what's your problem exactly. Should we take a permission from you before talking about XVI?
>>532041642You need to
>go through the yoshicult to talk about XVI>go through Barry talk about XV>go through jimbo to talk about VII RemakeIf you don't get approval, you WILL receive autism.
>>532042095XV used to be discussed a lot for years regardless of Barry and even him doesn't screech at people talking about it. Same with the remake. It seems to be just a special case with XVI which we are supposedly not allowed to talk about.
>>532039519Sounds like cultist projection to me.
>>532041642>>532042095>>532042782I didn't say anything like this. You can read my post again if you are confused.
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>>532042095When have I ever stopped anyone talking about FFVII Remake? I like to talk about it, and I like to hear what others have to say about it. There is someone here who likes to talk about me more than FF though - until he's asked why and suddenly he's speechless.
>>532044416>When have I ever stopped anyone talking about FFVII Remake?As far as I know, you haven't. There is, however, a VII defender who routinely prevents discussion of VII-related topics like lore and symbolism.
>>532044597I think he also sees a post that criticizes shippers and how they act and his mind reads it as "this person isn't allowing me to talk about ff7 remake"
>>532044867That's quite a jump in logic. What kind of person would have these sort of unhinged kneejerk reactions?
>>532042095Autism: received.
https://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Public_Warning:_FF7_Fandom
https://web.archive.org/web/20130403092403/http://funkicarus.livejournal.com/339434.html
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/funkicarus/i;boards:vg;op:no
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>>532046642>>532046739B FOR BEAST
A FOR APEX
S FOR SUPREME
E FOR EXCELLENT
D FOR DIVINE
http://www.demon-sushi.com/warning/mela.html
>So Jen thinks she is . . .
>Morrigan La Fae (who she incidentally is also a descendant of!?)
>Laura Croft
>Integra Hellsing
>Alucard (from Hellsing)
>Everyone from the Incredibles cartoon
>Arwen from LOTR
>Jennova from ff7
>Sephiroth, Cloud, and Zack (also from ff7)
>Ultemecia from final fantasy (who also happens to be her mother!?)
>Garnet, Steinerfrom ff8
>Quite a bit of the cast from Babylon 5
>Buffy Summers, Angel, Spike, Drusilla, the Master, Willow, Xander, & anyone else she thinks is cool from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Who is everyone here? How many lives are you living? Who are your ancestors? What powers do you have?
I'm guessing the guy who wanted to talk about 7R wasn't that interested.
I am Clive, Noctis, Balthier, Auron, Freya, Squall and Rinoa, Edgar, Dorgann, Cecil and Golbez, Minwu, and Jack Garland
If you're not here to glaze/goon 7R
and shit on every other Final Fantasy
then we will kindly ask you to leave
Reposting the complete filter list:
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>>532035967More like an inferior naruto
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>>532022093>Reminder that they also changed the date titles due to fan reactionsNo, they didn't. The difference: pic related (error) vs
>>532020130 (harassment)
>Tifag is *still* melting about Aerith
>>532054173And they're proud of being harassers.
>>532054871Where? Don't you have some death threats to send to Square?
>>532055235>Don't you have some death threats to send to Square?...no? Buddy, I don't give a FUCK about your 25 year old shipper wars. I'm just tired of you and your schizophrenia
>>532055476Sure, buddy.
>I'm just tired of you and your schizophreniaOh the irony.
>>532055778>Oh the irony.There is no irony. You told me I have death threats to send to Square Enix, which I can only assume is a jab at your mortal enemy, the "Cleriths", whom I am not. Just because someone might be tired of you, your shipper wars, and your schizophrenia does not necessitate them being all of your enemies. Maybe you're just annoying
Personally, as a very neutral person extremely concerned about the general discourse with no ulterior motivations, I only repeatedly call out one specific group while downplaying the other. It's just common sense.
>>532056241>tired of you, your shipper wars, and your schizophreniaSays the dumbass who started all of this by crying about "Tifag shippers" over a gacha notification. So I ask you again, where is the "melting"?
Maybe...maybe this could have been avoided if FFXVI hadn't fallen short.
>>532059270Many are saying this.
>>532056339Only the Tifags seem insane here. Like, anytime anyone ever posts an Aerith, a Tifag will post a Nanaki or make some inflammatory Aerith statement. Nearly every single time I make a post related to Final Fantasy, the same one guy calls me an Aerithfag. Like, he even called me a retarded Aerithfag for quoting Nomura about Sephiroth's Masamune.
Meanwhile, I have never been accosted for supposedly being a Tifag, Tifafag, or Tifakek.
>>532059270Reminder that Rebirth fell short of XVI by over 2x
>>532059270I blame Yoshida for the downfall of the series.
The problem with FFXVI was that it didn't have enough fan service.
>>532061607Unironically the main problem XVI faced and XIV is currently facing.
We would forgive every little nitpick if we just got a little fanservice.
Instead they are full fujo and won't give us even the smallest pantie shot. Sad!
>>532061607Tekken says hi
>>532061607XVI had plenty of full frontal male nudity
That's why it was the 10/10 fastest selling PS5 exclusive
>>532061607XVI had plenty of full frontal male nudity
That's why it made many people gay
>>532062287>>532062580Final Fantasy has always been gay fujobait
If you don't like it, there's the door, chuds
>>532062287This is why we need a new turnbased loli Final Fantasy mainline game like World of FF.
SE is leaving money on the table.
>>532061225>the sword was evil all along sephiroth dindu nuffin
Which Final Fantasy game had the best gay kiss?
>>532064625The most iconic scene in the game.
>>532064915They should have been playable characters.
>>531948069Aerisu got penetrated fully by big veiny organic masamune
>>532064915@grok Is this real?
>>531883882Square Enix has canceled the Final Fantasy IX remake to focus instead on remaking Dragon Quest VII.
>>532070031Pretty good decision desu
I don't want them to ruin FF9
Which FF title needs a remake? I'm leaning toward FFXII.
>>532081394None
If you unironically want more remakes you need to eat shit and die
>>532082770We love remakes here.
/XVI hadn't/i;boards:vg;op:no
/Naruto/i;boards:vg;op:no
No more remakes
No more spinoffs
Just pump out mainline FFs back to back like the good ol' days
>>532081394VIII. There's no way for them to fuck it up worse than the original.
>>532087873I just want an FF world map like this, but with actually fully realized scale. Kinda like XV but with real continents. RDR/Death Stranding world scale. We are so close....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6YVfrWQmrY
>>532085436Extremely based
>>531751672Final Fantasy needs 3 things. A good story, to be fantasy, and to be turn based. Anything else can be changed.
>>532090329only thing FF needs is chocobos, moogles, and crystals.
>>532086921If they wanted to do the whole multiverse time travel threads of fate bullshit that 7 remake tries to pull, 8 would have been the perfect place to do it. The plot of 8 is already a clusterfuck of time travel nonsense, it'd be right at home.
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>Final Fantasy doesn't exist, it can be anything you want!
You don't belong here.
>>532090329>to be fantasyDefine fantasy.
>>532090632>(You) don't belong here.True.
>you can still a Ragnarok of all swords from Neo ExDeath despite it being the final battle.
I think I understood why since he wants to put an end to everything.
https://youtu.be/6ELVzX5m_rY?si=86KXWX4e6wjSyxQl
FF7R if it was good
Trying to play XIII, why does it suck so much?
>>532095843The pacing + unlikable cast + constantly gimped teams make the experience exhausting. You're playing a 30h long Bombing Mission with no end in sight.
>>532096448At least bombing mission had good music, but I hate how XIII constantly fucks with my party.
>oh you're finally good?>lol now you're playing three other assholes xD
>>532094013I liked Dirge of Cerberus...
>>532095843Just skip to the 2nd and 3rd game or just play XV
Final Fantasy XVI? Poopy.
SE should fire Yoshida's commie ass and let the next Final Fantasy game to be about preserving the legacy you inherited, as it was in the golden age.
FFXVII should have a pro-racism message.
>>532100015Afraid, I'm irrefutable.
Was Dissidia NT any good? I had a lot of fun with 012 back in the day.
>>532111957>anon actually defends NTwew
>>532112520What, did you think that warning was just to protect certain FF games and not others?
>>532112594The yo,shicult may have wanted that when they made that copypasta, but this ain't a hugbox.
>>532112784Literally nobody brought them up before you did, so why are you so obsessed? Almost as if Yoshida lived rentfree in your head.
>>532112784You made them extremely angry with this., congrats.
>>532127727You struck a nerve, the Lightningfag had to pat himself on the back again. It's a sign that he's actually really butthurt. Mad, even.
>check /ffg/
>Lightning avatarfag is still revealing himself by avoiding possible filters
>he seethes about his litany of bogeymen 24/7 even when no one is awake
Maybe it's time for me to leave. Oneguy has been here for even longer than I have. He never leaves, he just pretends to be "new" people, and every single one of these people he pretends to be acts exactly the same, i.e. with unparalleled and unimaginable vitriol and seethe at literally everyone single person who is not himself. I never find that my life has been improved by checking this thread. Instead, I'm usually met with brand new ways that I never new severe mental illness could express itself. It's unthinkable that someone's entire life would be based around this thread, and yet it is quite clear that this is the case for him.
I'm going to be honest, I'm not reading any of this.
>>532128860If you leave, the fatherless wins.
mini-tera's cute
>>532019360Final Fantasy XVII should have a pro-Vanille message.
Tactics Remastered should have Vanille and l'รclair DLCs, otherwise - not buying their Collector's Edition goyslop (game sold separately).
>>532096748Three? What game you playing? You donโt get access to three people until act 3 rofl
>>532096448Based and true
Iโm always shocked to see the shipping wars online for Cloud Tifa vs Cloud Aerith go the route of people claiming Aerith and Cloud didnโt kiss and Nomura is an โantiโ
>>532128950XVI doing so poorly broke his mind.
>>532140701he was too Based for this world
>>532140701Bro is a tree
It ain't easy being green
>>532140821>Shocked Do you really care
>>532141041I do because Cloud Tifa is canon
>you changed the story reeeeeeeeee
You are all whispers
>>532090616Good thing 7r didnt try that
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>>532141574I don't get it. Could not care any less if someone ships the characters in my favorite FF games in literally any way.
It does not change the game I played.
Also ff7 in particular is such a mess these days, it's hard for me to give a shit about it at all.
>>532143562So what makes ExDeath a good villain then?
>>532143562he has more of a backstory than Kefka
>>532141765They need to introduce a new being that represents everyone who will like the story no matter what as long as they get to see the characters. Then they can fight the whispers to see who wins.
>>532144268That would be certainly interesting, but we already killed the Whispers in Part 1.
>>532140821What the fuck is an anti?
>>532144114Kefka doesn't need a backstory.
He's like the Joker. He's better without a backstory.
>>532144748True. That was the entire POINT of Remake.
>>532144910Kefka had a backstory, did you even play the game?
It could be written on a handkerchief, but it's still here. And it's still better than Lightning's story.
>>532144910wow what a wait to out yourself as a tourist
>>532144910me when I don't play the games
>>532131543>Collector's Edition goyslop (game sold separately).That was seriously bold of them. Pretty fucking bold. Not even a download code. Ridiculous
And it still sold out
>>532128950>>532129314>>532140971What post triggered it this time? Because it certainly wasn't a post of mine.
>>532128860You really pissed the fatherless off, it had to cry to itself for THREE HOURS before it could stop shaking long enough to type a reply.
>seethes about his litany of bogeymen 24/7 even when no one is awake
Ope. I don't think you meant to admit that
>>532147210It's retarded and very fragile, please understand.
>>532147994>unparalleled and unimaginable vitriol and seethe at literally everyone single person who is not himself>It's unthinkable that someone's entire life would be based around this thread, and yet it is quite clear that this is the case for himAnything else you'd like to unintentionally reveal about yourself to the class?
>>532145114I did and he doesn't.
>>532146571>>532147421>>532150413>Avatarfag posts getting automatically filtered Based /ffg/ filter
>>532147994You struck a nerve, the lightningfag is very, very hurt, which means you struck a nerve.
>>532112784Are you happy now?
>>532151058do they put kids in these costumes or small adults?
>>532144910>. He's better without a backstory.He already has a backstory.
He was just the first magitek soldier and went mad because the technology wasnt perfect
>>532146337"sold out" doesn't mean anything when we don't know how many were even produced. If they only made 100 of them selling out of those wouldn't be that impressive.
>>532154174True. Pretty sure the quantities were quite limited. More than likely a lot of people trying to scalp it, too. It will be listed on ebay for $500 on day one lol
>>532143562He was kinda tragic, he wanted to die.
>>532151486Probably just a very small lady. Nao chan is quite tall, after all
>You will never be a moogle, kupo
The heroines in Death Stranding 2 are very good
>>532161859ngl her posture is kinda ass
>>532155306>make on artbook about lightning >sell it for $0,01>it sellsLIGHTNING ARTBOOK SOLD OUT
SHE'S THE BESTEST CHARACTER EVAR
>>532170736You angered the offtopic shitposter.
He has no father!
Friendly reminder that the loser currently claiming FFXVII should have an antiracism message is a poser who never played a FF game in his life.
This feels like an awfully specific callout. Did I miss something here?
>>532176054The motherless migrant doesn't know who or what his enemy even is, let alone what they are saying. It's just shadow boxing, again.
JUST ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION NORMALLY
>>532176634It's off topic drama like always. Ignore and report shitposters who spam and argue in bad faith!
>>532175789You struck a nerve, the bot fell back on its programming.
>>532103592Elemental confirmed for Kingdom Hearts IV
>>532104113
>>532131543>XVIIIt's gonna be another Final Fantasy 7/Xenogears reboot, bro.
>>532177972You triggered the oversensitive shitposter. Good job buddy.
No one ever called me a Tifag, Tifafag, or Tifakek for posting this image any of the times that I've posted it.
Meanwhile, I got called a "retarded Aerithfag" because I quoted Nomura about Sephiroth's Masamune having an organic quality to it.
>>532181432I'm just demonstrating that there is at least one literally insane Tifag who lives here, whereas the Aerithfag(s) who comes by sometimes, if he even exists, is rather tame in comparison.
>>532181565Sadly, once your brain has been rotted by ship wars, you start to see every post you don't like as being "from the enemy team"
The most unhinged ones will do this while also claiming to not be shippers at all.
>the filter is going to be added to the op
I won