Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection:
https://atlus.com/etrianorigins/
https://sq-atlus.jp/sq123/

>Origins Portrait Rips:
https://mega.nz/folder/1tASnSbb#E23CLm1oJ71WrB0_gnt3lA

>Origins Font Fixes:
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447602 (EO1)
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447609 (EO2)
https://gamebanana.com/mods/447653 (EO3)

>EO3 "Liberating" Mod
PC:
https://files.catbox.moe/jodrax.zip
PC hair version:
https://files.catbox.moe/szvevp.zip
Switch:
https://pixel drain com/u/AwKKreQ8
Switch hair version:
https://pixel drain com/u/mNu4HEeH
Edited portraits:
https://files.catbox.moe/gur7dr.zip

>Beginner's Guide to the Series:
https://imgur.com/a/ggW5g5U

>Etrian Odyssey Resources (Mods/Patches, References, Data Dumps, Calculators, QR Codes, Skill Sims, etc.):
https://pastebin.com/LBujh3ra

>Etrian Odyssey Art Books:
https://pastebin.com/Tm1xN2Jy

>Etrian Odyssey FLAC Albums:
https://pastebin.com/cE8mdiLF

>Etrian Odyssey Lossy Albums:
https://pastebin.com/crChVqLB

>Nexus balance patch mod:
https://mega.nz/#F!o1cXTSpB!SW5Ad-o8_pKYOa9LcbyiSg

>Document containing some resources and information
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/

Previous thread: >>529327594

fang

I hear people complain sometimes about the font for the HD versions. What is it about it that people dislike? Just that it's different from the original, or what?

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>531970372
The lowercase g has a looptail and that ugly ahoge, literally unplayable

>>531970372
There's an image floating around that compares the fonts to the DS versions. Someone has it, I'm sure.

>>531970372
For me the default font of the HD version just looks bad and makes the games feel like a bad RPGMaker game. Doesn't suit the games at all which wasn't an issue with the fonts the older localized games went with, even the original NA font of 1.

>>531970372
Someone should whip up a better version of this.

>>531949759
Kanzashi ronin is actually pretty cute

>>531968892
remove fang

>>531979057

All the girls should have fangs in the next game

None of the girls should have fangs in the next game. The boys shouldn't either.

the next game should feature fang vs non-fang as a plot point

The next game should feature exclusively gloomy lolis.

The next game should feature a weapon type as cool as Drive Blades

>>531986815
pile bunkers confirmed

Etriam but card duels

Is it already time?

Etriam but all male portraits are cute shotas and all female portraits are sexy onee-chans built for big shota cock

>>532002917
stopped reading on "big"

>>532007393
not beating the zodiac/yggdroid accusations

>>532002917
That would be one fine idea to make me never touch this series again. Loli and flat girls is all that is needed, anything else is heresy.

>>532007859
you can't properly appreciate just how flat they are unless you keep some mountains in view. himukai understands this

>ded

https://exhentai.org/g/3437932/071b0a9df1/
Bunny sexo

>>532000948
who is this semen demon?

>>532027023
My daughterwife

>>532027023
Me

Bros... I'm not gonna make it ;_;

>>531972298
This is outdated, the actual final release of the hd collection has the left font but in all capital letters. That was actually my only issue when they first announced it but they changed it to all caps so I had no issues in the end.

>>532049501
And that's why someone that isn't me should make an updated version.

>ded

The next game should feature more long ears sexo

wake up

(can't wake up)

SAVE ME

FROM THE DED SERIES I'VE BECOME

CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE F.O.E.

First time playing etrian and I'm already filtered by the petaloid + firebulbs combo in misty ravine
How the hell is guaranteed party wide sleep on turn 2 and a walking nuke which is oddly tanky that wipe the party on turn 3 even fair?

>>532088820
Enemies are supposed to be dangerous, that's what forces you to actually need to use strategy to beat them.

>>532088820
People love to say 4 is the babby game of the franchise but the early game really has some nasty surprises, especially for newcomers. Anyway, head binds can shut both enemies down but you probably don't have access to them yet. Petaloids only target your entire party if they're below max health so you may want to avoid damaging them first unless you can burst one down before it can act.

>>532089729
>>532089070
Thanks for the advice anon and I'll just keeping spamming escape for now.
Yeah I've been enjoying the game overall, I just needed to vent a bit about difficulty spike out of nowhere. I get that I'm not supposed to burst down every regular enemy but these enemies feel more dangerous than most of FOEs I've faced so far which is honestly frustrating.

>>532091047
you get a really good burst skill for handling them after sweating through the first floor, so it gets better. 2nd stratum's a big wakeup call.

>>532049140
The dream team

>>532032291
looking good champ

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>532121815
Sexo with all three

>ded

After 10 or so years of lurking here and picking IV up and down I finally locked in two months ago and played it all the way through. Extremely enjoyable and I will definitely miss my party and the Tharsis citizens.

Will probably get around to finishing Strange Journey before I tackle another EO game.

>ded

I deserve a ronin and a zodiac wife

I deserve a bnuuy in my bed

I deserve Next Stage.

I deserve a bnuuy in my bed in Next Stage

Kaishaku

I spent 25 turns slowly chipping away the queen's HP while basically trapped in a bontage session and she still has a third of HP left. I don't get it man

>>532224523
Getting to 25 turns is admirable I suppose. You should reconsider your strategy, skills, or party as a whole if you're finding your damage to be that low.

>>532224523
What even is your current team setup?

>>532227137
landsknecht, fortress, and nightseeker on the front line with sniper and runemaster in the back. fortress girl handles tanking while the others focus on dealing damage and applying crowd control. I'm pretty sure I'm not doing something too retarded but idk

>>532153851
good work anon
what EO game is next when you go back to them

>>532234247
I'm already dabbling with V and wondering what a good team composition will be. There's a lot less advice online compared to IV.so I'll ask here:

Is Dragoon/Pugilist/Masurao/Harbinger/Shaman a viable party for the whole game? If so, what skills should I be focusing on leveling up first?

>>532238656
>Shaman
You'll be torn apart by the stratum 4 boss, but otherwise, fairly standard with Pug as the easy-to-build heavy hitter with Thunder Fist + Overexertion for earlygame.
You have no elves, so you're missing out actual magic and Chain Blast which is broken beyond belief and V's version of DH's Dominate.
Looks like you're going to have hell with earlygame healing since Shamans don't go online until second titles.
Dragoons always want bunkers at the start to spread the damage and get enemies to aggro your "summons". Harbinger can enable all 3 with its debuff skillset once everyone else unlocks their harder-hitting skills.
Pug's enmity build can flatout oneshot the superboss (when it's sleeping) with extremely proper prep.

>>532153851
Good job.
I'd usually nag over the <100% achievement, but 10+ fucking years... Yeah. You need to get into another EO.

>>532239376
Would swapping Harbinger for Warlock and Shaman with Botanist be sensible?

>>532238656
>Dragoon/Pugilist/Masurao/Harbinger/Shaman
its fine, you'll just need healing item support early game

>>532238656
I think that would be fine. Pug and Masu are both very high damage so the rest being support is fine. Like the other anon mentioned missing out on chain blast is a bit sad but it shouldn't be a huge issue. Just means you won't be able to completely cheese bosses with it.

Which Chain Element is your favorite?

>>532250468
Fire because the dragoon can do the big boom into it. For ice/volt all she gets to do is a normal attack.

>ded

"you thinking what I'm thinking"
"awww yeaa"
They're thinking about kaishaku

woomy

>>532242991
Your call if you want a buffer + backup healing/damage Shaman or healing + more healing or occasional ailments Botanist.
Harbinger and Warlock do different things for the most part. Elemancers want more INT units to supercharge their spells while Omnimancers get full weakness coverage and can become a union skill battery.

sticc

>>532299591
You should be constantly thinking about Kaishaku too, with the thread being what it is.

I'm thinking about hexer.
I'm always thinking about hexer.

Hexer's greatest enemy in the labyrinth: tripping.

>>532323849
Hexer WILL be in the next Smash Bros. The next Smash Bros WILL bring back tripping. I'm calling it now.

>>532324605
She'll be in the next Monster Hunter and hunt exclusively with three other LS users only.

where are they trying to go

>>532325498
They have a map to hexer's lost panties

>>532325917
if only they could read

>>532325498
To where Raidou 3 is.

>>532325498
To the Next Stage.

>>532334554
Giving nightmares like Wes Crave

>>532325498
just to the next floor, but she accidentally drew a wall over a door so they can't figure out where they need to go

How is this general still alive when even nisa died?

>>532354187
etriams strong together

>>532354187

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>532354187
I keep casting CPR and there's nothing you can do to stop me!

etriam but Ruri no Houseki

I'm at the 18th stratum in EOU classic mode, any tips for beating the two ogres? What level should I be?

>>532354187
Because Etrian is good and NISA is shit.

>ded

zodiloli perfection

etriam but Into the Deepest, Most Unknowable Dungeon

>>532334554
>>532341164
Etriam x Burning Rangers

The EO2 experience.

>>532409530
remove fang

i'm most of the way through the 5th stratum in eo1 and have a question on conditional drops. dinolich is supposed to drop the sword rib as long as you don't kill it with a piercing attack, but i kept getting sternums until i killed one where i just had my survivalist defend every single turn. do Survivalists non-damaging skill somehow add the piercing attribute? or are conditionals still luck based even after you fulfill them?

>>532413424
>or are conditionals still luck based even after you fulfill them?
correct. That one in particular is a 30% chance.
The early games have a couple annoyingly low drop rates like that.

>>532415049
fug, i am feeling very good then about stumbling on to the one you need for Arc Drawer by accident on my first kill of the boss

redpill me on eo2. i'm probably jumping into that soon, but i keep hearing it's the worst of the series

>>532418850
It's better than 1 in my opinion so I don't know who's saying it's the "worst". It just has some design choices that are more unusual. One main thing is that FOEs don't give exp so the only reason to fight them is for the drops, just for the fun of it, or to clear them out of the way. Some quests are also really annoying and you'll likely need to look some stuff up to figure out where to go. Then certain classes from 1 aren't as strong in 2, like survivalist for example. It's more of a utility/support class now and not a great damage dealer.

>>532421513
my general assumption was that i'd probably want to look at the classes with fresh eyes each new game, it sounds like they change a fair amount. which is fine. since i played this one mostly blind my team is not especially interesting, it'll be more fun to purposely build something synergistic

>>532421915
I think the skill tree design is better and more interesting overall and you have way more classes available from the start since ronin and hexer are available and gunner/war magus are new. Beast is also unlocked after the first stratum so the party building is much better. But that brings me to another quirk of 2 which is that the skills scale very slowly and take a long time to be good. Like Troubadour's buff are very weak at low levels so they'll take a lot of time to get going.

>>532418850
skill scaling is pretty extreme so low level skills feel bad to use, but you can't max them immediately due to costs. Half of everyone's skill tree being generic stat ups feels bad in general since it means you spend a large amount of your skill points on generic skills instead of class specific stuff.
Also this eyeball is a faggot. Basically the funny one shot cat from 3's f1 but on floor 4 and has a 100% ambush rate.

>>532422372
>>532422627
are there trap skills that are common to fall for? i feel like an idiot for how much i sank into my landy's 2-hit because I didn't realize "normal attack" meant non-skill

>>532422927
Beast's Roar skill has comical scaling where it's like a 1% chance to inflict terror at levels 1-4 and then like 7% at 5. I recommend putting a quality point into a skill that can stop FOE movement or lure them to a spot which various classes have. War Magus has a skill called "regenall" that heals the parties hp by 1 per turn, maxing at 5 at level 5. I don't know if it's a "trap" skill though, it'll be useful in the first stratum but you'll absolutely need to rest and respec out of it later once HP pools get higher.

Another quirk of 2 is that weapon speed is hugely important in deciding turn order. Swords are fast and will always act first most of the time for example. For this reason, a War Magus will make a faster healer but have weaker healing power. Some weapons have hidden speed modifiers that you need to look up though. Gunners are slow as shit but there's like one or two specific guns that have faster than normal act speed.

>>532430570
kawaii

>>532430570
sexo

>>532430570
kawaii sexo

ok, i just beat the etreant, and what the fuck was the chief's plan here? is it just assisted suicide?

I deserve an Ygg wife

I deserve 4 loli wives.

congrats /eog/ you outlived /meta/

>>532470061
not in any meaningful way desu

>>532418850
>redpill me on eo2
It has my most favourite collection of stratums in the series

>>532470061
>we outlived metaslop
wowee

>>532461542
He was trying to kill you (because Tlachtga + Ren failed at their job) because he didn't want you coming back up to reveal the labyrinth's secrets in order to maintain the status quo so that more tourists/adventurers will keep exploring to bring business to the town to maintain its prosperity (glasses guy confirms it if you 100% the game).
Logically, it's pretty dumb because with all of those discoveries there would be more people interested in research and adventurers to help non-combatants delve deeper for resources, etc.
Untold retconned it to something ridiculous instead.

>>532470061
/eog/ has surprisingly outlived a lot of generals through sheer autismo.
A shame about Metaphor getting kinda memoryholed, I thought it was really great game. However, the lack of social links really kill the interest of Personafags and other ironicweebs that refuse to just play dating sims and visual novels.

>ded

Chase Heal

>>532418850
It's pretty nice, coming off of EO1 some months back. I'm deep into the 2nd stratum right now. Chimaera filtered me for about an hour but now my team (Land, WM, Gunner, Hexer, Survivalist) is insanely strong. I'm abusing all the broken shit. Chimaera reliably drops a ludicrous 30k conditional that I've farmed to buy an endgame bow for my Survivalist, so now she's broken too.
One thing I like to do early in these games is max out the encounter-killer skill (Surv has it in EO2), so they probably annoy me less than the average player. Exploring floors is comfy when you never have to fight enemies.
I'm told Survivalist and Landsknecht are hot doo-doo in EO2, but it's working for me. I had almost considered swapping out Surv for Alchemist during the Chimaera troubles but no way now. I guess the lesson is these games are what you make of them.

>>532512148
Etrian Odyssey tier lists make Fire Emblem tiers look sane
>one class does 6% less damage than another one
>SHIT CLASS NEVER USE, LITERALLY GIMPING YOUR PARTY
>Okay it might have a memebuild that can solo the superboss, but IT'S STILL SHIT OKAY? IT JUST IS!

>>532514468
to be fair you should not factor level 21 landsnack counter ohkoing ur child into the general competency of that class (2snack is fine. that’s just not relevant.)

Alright bros so I just read the beginner's guide in the OP, so now that that's out of the way, which game should I start with?

>>532523467
1HD if you're open minded and want to see the series evolve with each game.
3HD is the best one of the HD trilogy and is where the series really starts to develop a lot of the features present in future games
4 is the most beginner friendly one and there's almost no way to fuck up party building
1 Untold Classic if you're an actual masochist

>>532523467
recommending 4 is boring so go jerk off to the erohon series and base your decision off of that instead

>>532524984
So HD isn't some kind of fucked up slop? Because that's what I was afraid of.

>>532524984
I'm an oldfag and I've played Wizardry so 1HD?

Which anti element skill am I supposed to use this turn? I forgot.

>>532529904
antivolt trust me

>>532525745
The map drawing is a different experience from the rest of the games by necessity, but I think they did about as well as they could to make that work on a single screen and controller.
Other than that, the HD versions are...HD versions of the first 3 games, with a handful of the bugs that hurt the player patched and new difficulty settings. The prices of them are still too high, but if you're getting the physical copies of the other games, those aren't necessarily cheap anymore, either.

>>532524984
I still don't really agree with this "4 is the most beginner friendly myth" that constantly gets regurgitated. It's not the hardest EO game but I wouldn't say it's "easy" either and you absolutely can make a bad party. Since it introduced two level rests and you have those training items, it takes less time to fix a bad party however. I would actually say that 1 has far easier random encounters simply due to it being heavy on normal attack spam. 4 has less quirks and a more gradual difficulty curve but it's also quite old at this point, something like V or Nexus would be the most newcomer friendly simply due to being more modern. With difficulty modes, any game can be "newcomer friendly" as well. Back when I started EO, I started with 3 and then played 4 after and went onward from there (and did go back to 1&2 as well). I never really noticed that much difference and never thought 4 felt much easier. I didn't struggle with either but the point is that the "4 is easy" thing is greatly exaggerated imo.

>>532533227
If you’re not doubling up on classes, it’s basically impossible to end up with a bad composition in 4 (like, you’ll always have an elemental damage option no matter what you do) and the level gating also pushes you into getting things you’ll actually use rather than immediately booking it for big ticket items. I would not say it is necessarily the easiest title (I would probably say nexus is, but having someone start with that is insane behavior), but it gets you into the modern etrian philosophy very smoothly.
The other reason is that the subtle design choices it makes to that end are kind of grating if you’re coming back to it later on. Like booooo let me start with imp you cowards

>>532488765
sure that's what he says he's doing, it just doesn't make any fucking sense. at any point he could have been like "hey, you did good kids, we don't need to risk going any deeper than this" alternatively, instead of telling his minions to kill us, he could have just not done that and then we would never have gotten the keycard. hell, why commission me to genocide the forest people? presumably he was part of the group who created the original pact, now he's like "nah fuck that, we must dive deeper"
i genuinely cannot square any of his actions prior to the 5th stratum with, "oh, you know my secret now you have to die" unless he's just been sending adventurers in hoping to someday encounter someone strong enough to kill him

>>532512148
>>532514468
i'm trying to understand why the LP class overview for EO1 lists 1st Turn as Survivalist's single best skill, and in EO2 it's "conditional at best." this is the same overview that says EO2 is a more offensively oriented game, and that you'll want skills like Riot Gun or Painless for your squishy dealers to get off their insta-kills.

>>532542024
Why are you watching an LP? Why would anyone ever watch somebody else play a turn based RPG?

>>532542385
i'm not watching anything. i didn't realize until yesterday there was a general for the series, this was the most useful thing non-wikia thing i found when i was searching for answers to why some shit didn't work like i expected
https://lparchive.org/Etrian-Odyssey/

>>532542385
Not him, but he means the screenshot LPs on LPArchive and other sites where the autists behind them have pages with nice tables full of skill data.
The commentary is subjective bullshit 90% of the time when not explaining bugs, but it's still a handy reference.
https://rhematic.net/eo4_lp/runemaster/
https://lparchive.org/Etrian-Odyssey-II-Heroes-of-Lagaard/Update%2009/

>>532542631
Just look at skill sims and the Japanese wiki via google translate, that should really answer anything you need.

>>532543191
does the jp wiki cover the differences between original and HD? i'm always uncertain which bugs people talk about are strictly in the original, versus carried over to the american release, Untold, or HD

>>532543330
I think they actually do note differences in relevant sections but I'd need to go back and double check.

Kaishaku

I play that E-train Odds

ok, so let's suppose for my eo2 run i wanted to try building a team that synergizes around debuffs. would the following be viable?

dark hunter | combat medic | ronin
survivalist | hexer

too squishy maybe?

>>532553894
You can first turn the hexer to put all random encounters to sleep before ever being touched so that's good. You might be light on damage though, the ronin is going to be pulling a lot along with the hexer suicide word'ing everything. I've never used dark hunter in two though so I don't know how much damage they'll put up. Survivalist is pure utility in 2 but they'll make exploring the stratum very convenient with their labyrinth skills.

>>532562641
i'm honestly mostly bringing the ronin for aoe and hoping to rely on dark hunter for a lot of the single target damage, since 80% of the team can inflict bind for her big damage skill and they buffed her insta-death kill in this game to both killing anything under 55% hp at mastery and fucking ignoring immunity

>>532563048
You'll probably be okay then as long you thought the party through, which you have. But yeah it might be a bit squishy and you may need some good RNG on certain bosses/FOEs. Being able to first turn strong medic heals will help with surviving.

>>532563394
the other route i was considering was replacing the survivalist with a protector, and the ronin with a backline aoe, but i wasn't sure if gunner could sufficiently fill the role based on its skill descriptions, and i've already experienced the limits of relying on alchemist for this in my current eo1 run

>>532542024
I have to assume it has something to do with how speed is calculated or something. And also because the class got nerfed hard.
It could also be because it's an additional 2 SP to get to in EO2, behind two useless skills, whereas at least one of the prerequisite skills in EO1 has some purpose.

>>532562641
I don't recall hexer needing first turn in 2 to go before random encounters. When maxed torpor has a 172% speed modifier after all.

>>532567994
Yeah, you're right I think they're fast enough without it but it can be good for assurance or before it's maxed.

>>532541551
>hell, why commission me to genocide the forest people?
He didn't expect you to actually succeed which is why it's such an obnoxious (in a good way) moment in EO1. He was hoping you'd die or give up.

>>532579491
My wife

Is there anything cheaty about the DLCs for EO2U? I installed it primarily for the highlander class but I don't want any unfair advantages otherwise.

>>532512148
I finished 2 a few months back with a Landy and it felt fine
Never hit has hard as my Ronin, but also didnt drop to random hits either and always pulled her weight

>>532614895
Some of them are very cheaty, just don't do those quests

>>532553894
That is a squishy team in Rocket Tag: The Game You're going to be heavily reliant on lockdown with this setup.

>>532512148
>Survivalist and Landsknecht are hot doo-doo
You're using an endgame bow, so she's basically using a strong crutch.
Landy damage output in EO2 is serviceable but just not as strong and tp-efficient as the heavy hitters.

>ded

>>532191286
If it's good cosplay, Gutrune is naked under that cloak

>>532614895
The DLCs that get you the EXP/drop/money tea ingredients en masse are cheaty but everything else is fine I think. The rest are extra bosses (most are cool fights), Highlander like you mentioned, a bonus floor, and some nude portraits for Arianna and Chloe. There are some really good items that can be made from extra boss drops or as a reward for the quest (Bikini Armor and Gold Belt in particular) but none of them are particularly broken outside of Ragnarok which is locked behind the hardest fight in the game, maybe series, on Expert difficulty.

>>532632950
>and some nude portraits for Arianna and Chloe
wait what

>>532635839
Hot spring dlc.
Arianna covers her breasts while Chloe's chest has opaque steam covering them, both are waist up.
The guys don't get it, but they do get bare-skinned art in the group CG in the same pool with the girls.

>>532635839
exactly what it sounds like
this boss also drops material to make an armor with 1 def but resistance to fire ice and volt, so there's still a reward if you're on classic. I recall hearing it's good for beasts but I forget why.

>>532636643
>I recall hearing it's good for beasts but I forget why.
They can equip it along with their regular armor so they get to have high defenses on top of halving elemental damage thanks to the Bikini Armor.

>>532636782
yeah that sounds right. I couldn't remember if there was a trick like that or if it was just the kind of effect that pairs well with hit taker compared to other ways to mitigate damage.

>>532636643
>When we finished the still portrait for Chloe in the hot springs event, all of a sudden people were shouting "Chloe's so cute!" in the office. Quite the temptress...
Himukai's words; not mine.

>ded

which game is the best?

>>532636643
Bikini Armor turns Beast into the best tank in the series and borderline unkillable, specially if you buff it with Dauntless Order

>>532649417
5 for dungeon design
2U for party building
3 for story
2 for stratum themes
1 for soul

>>532649669
but /eog/ told me fortress/dancer is the best tank in the series. They can't both be the best.

>>532649821
thank you I'm trying 5
I lost a party member in my 2nd battle... m-maybe I shouldn't play in advanced

>>532656682
if you don't use your link skills for double attack and have squishy front line party members that's expected to happen.
Making sure you bought armor (shoes especially) instead of weapons with your starting money helps too.

>>532656682
Advanced is normal mode. It's okay, you'll learn