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>>532027841
this nigga brought tier 3 ward to the tourney???
I'm unconvinced of Aggro Abyss cause most of my matches and against Midrange Sword and Hybrid (dirt) Rune
>>532089723It's a two deck registration system so it's not the worst deck to bring trying to fish for a hard counter. That said, this guy picked it into Rune and it's BO1 so he's totally fucked.
>Go back to including 3 quickblades in my deck because I missed them
>immediately pays off
it was never in doubt
WHY DOES RUNE HEAL MORE THAN HAVEN
WHY DOES RUNE HEAL MORE THAN HAVEN
WHY DOES RUNE HEAL MORE THAN HAVEN
WHY DOES RUNE HEAL MORE THAN HAVEN
>>532089980? haven can heal like 50
>>532089950quickblader evolve darkside hasn't done anything for me yet but it's a sequence of cards that can happen
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>>532089980Because havenfags are retards who would rather get run down by aggro shit than play a single heal not named darkhaven grace.
>>532089868I try my best to win to see her smile
>>532090141>2pp do nothing die in 2 turns
So is this the set where they finally realize the Haven tax is completely retarded and all their cards are just dogshit versions of other crafts, or is that just wishful thinking?
>>532090426t. haven retard
>>532090451Not really?, Haven cards are pretty strong, it's weak because they need perfect curve.
coined cleric of crushing just completely stops my aggro
>>532089980>haven't doesn't heal>rune has no damage spellsiunno why they're not giving crafts their signature stuff
>>532090141without more heals it is plus minus nothing
>SAGELIGHT
>NORMAN
>SAGELIGHT
>NORMAN
it is so fucking obvious which craft is the pet craft its not even funny
why is aggro having a melty
just run lategame cards lol
what the fuuuuck he played the wrong William
>>532090451No, now take your 4pp ugly bastard and fuck off.
>>532090678>4pp do nothing>literally do nothing
I've seen gameplay of the old shadowverse and all i see is the board getting wipped every turn, drawn 8 cards, and make a full board with 1 or 2 storms.
>>532090678imagine they reprint repose amulet... the seethe would be enormous
>>532090781Thats how it is here too
>>532090781the first part still happens at least
>Dirt gets cards
>Spellboost adds the cards to their own deck
>All Runecraft is a hybrid of the two
I hate this so much
>>532090781Play the Switch game based on the first few sets to see what the game was supposed to be like
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How would you honestly grade every deck for each tier atm?
>Strong
>Okay
>Weak
My cards
>10pp do nothing
My opponent's cards
>1pp win the game
How is this fair
>>532090935do you have grimnir crest as well?
How does the follower strike for rose princess knight work
>>532090960>StrongYour deck; anything I lose to
>OkayEverything else
>WeakMy deck
>>532090897playing that game brought me back to the good old days
FUCKING APPEAR ALREADY BIG CHEST
>>532089667 (OP)You would be wise to use my invite code.
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>>532091081Exactly like it says on the card
>>532091081The target needs to be damaged BEFORE you attack it with Rose. Otherwise you get laughed at for being a swordbab who doesn't read.
>>532091015actually sweaty, it's 18 (0) mana
>>532090789please no.......
What's the biggest win streak in SV history?
FUCK PUPPETER FUCK PUPPETEER FUCK PUPPETEER
NERF THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW
>zirconia into zirconia into two 8pp do everything twice into gay man into free sevo into free sevo
????????
also im missing the name of some other board floods
>>53209126530 something shartifact
>>532091272Fairy forest stomp the fuck out of puppets. They use all their puppets to clear early shit then have no answer for storm fairies
>>532090508If the craft dies regardless of which archetype it's playing or how it's built against every other craft turns 1-4 and relies solely on Salefa to survive, the craft's cards are fundamentally underpowered and need to be reworked.
>>532091265Ye-olde acceleratium artifact portal was something crazy.
>wall of text is one turn
I can't seem to impregnate Ralmia...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOPYGMt8Vqw
I miss big dragon
>>532090451>haven taxwhat for, elanas (((crimes)))? that was ,like 7years ago i think
The problem with Haven in WB is that Haven is a deck that's historically all value and zero tempo and WB is a game that's all tempo and no zero value
>>532090678>4pp ramp your opponentVGH, the sheer SOVL of that set...
>>532091363>new cards that interact with amulets>need 2 amulets to use the nifty abilities>some amulets need pay2play to achieve same effect that others get for I'm more amazed they didn't pay2engage cum chalice. Imagine the shitshow.
>>532089723Who and what tourney
>>532091230This shit really shouldn't be going below 1 cost.
>>532090960>StrongMidrange Abyss, Rune hybrid spellboost
>OkayMidrange sword, Ward haven, Fennie Dragon, all the aggros, Puppet portal, Artifact portal
>WeakWhatever forest is running
Where's your satan now you fucking subhuman tumor
>>532091440Keep trying, and ignore those texts from bio-femoids!
>>532091459>0pp summon a heavenly aegiswhat the fuck
>>532090678I didn't play that set did his deck actually do anything worthwhile?
>>532091719https://www.youtube.com/live/GT5fCYTDHDM
that haven lost btw
>>532091814I will try my best! My sperm is hardworking and will surely knock her up!!!
motherfucker healed 19 this match
Is there a way to see what a card looks like premium? I have two of the legendary orbs burning a hole in my pocket and they aren't worth enough vials to bother using on something I'm about to dust.
>haven finally gets a decent thing
>slappable neutral counter in the same set
I hate this niggery has happened so many times in history
>>532092028Rookie numbers
>2 aria and 2 titania
can i play with fairies now?
>>532092072Good. Haven being Tier 1 is oppressive and unfun.
>>532092072the important thing is the crest, odin cant take that away
[sad new] dragon is FUCKING SHIT
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You did save your rupies for her leader ticket next expansion right?
>>532092318why is puppet S
>>532091227Tried that and it seemed to not work hence my confusing, must have missed something
>>532092262anal insemination
>>532092318every time this list updates dirt jumps up a tier
>>532092464cuz it beats the best deck
>runetroon actually healed for 20 in a single match
YAY TANOSHII
This piece of shit class can do everything better than every other class, fuck this blatant favoritism
Maddening Benison is a genuine wtf card
>>532092539free bane is op
>>532092230just wait for SUPER Odin.
retarded question but if i decide to play forest, is it mandatory to buy alisa?
>>532092630he was talking about portal not sword
>>532092597eat your onions lol
Why does KMR hate us so much?
>Chest event
>Lose streak to unwinnable highrolls
It's like they plan it in order to drain your soul
>>532089980You don't like rune healing for 16-20 health points while losing no tempo at all? :)
Christ, dirt walls aren't usually enough to wall forest but watching this game I could see norman walls just fucking ending the match
>>532092318Expect aggro sword to move up. Maybe not with kagemitsu though
>>532092318>Shill Feetlene to headline the expansion>Both her decks are shitKMR...
>>532092539but it doesnt beat rune
>>532092597You don't understand if Rune didn't have 1000 heals they might actually lose a game to aggro and we can't have that.
>>532091459Ho-chan if she's actually good
>>532092631So I can play Vuella and Sweetfang Vampire
>>532092794invest early because the third true ramp card is absolutely going to break dragon until they rotate all the ramp out and it's back to the drawing board
>>532092682No, you can buy Titania instead
I don't believe in genuine lose streaks I think you're just dogshit at your deck or straight up running garbage
>>532092879No, and normally i dont mind males but lovesign manages to be a gayer gilgamesh ripoff than Ozymandias
>every single game in this tournament has had a rune player
more niggerish jackpot draw conditions next set hopefully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySUu2p7CsW4
>Drawn out match against ward haven
>Keep the pressure all game
>Turn 10x3
>No Gildaria
>No Grimnir
>No ravenous tentacle
Fuck the gay ass dealer
>Coin Beryl
>Coin double Quickblader
Yup it's gaming time
We NEED Yogg-Saron in Shadoba for maximum tanoshi
I love not getting alouette turn 5, 6 game in a row.
9 pp do nothing
why sword has 3 free board clears with free super evo and board
Advice on the spellboost rune mirror?
I find it a weak spot of mine.
>>532091459i didn't play shadowverse passed the granblue set but holy shit this looks mind boggling
>>532092771>lily topdeckPremium draw on full display
I just played a 24 (twenty-four) minute game of shadowverse versus a control abyss player.
What the fuck?
>>532093095He would be a rune card. Is that okay?
To the anon a few threads ago that suggested slotting in Colette, thanks for the advice.
>>532093105She isn't even that good play anymore. You'd much rather use your 1st evo on Carnelia.
How many sets until rotation? I'm a WBabby
wtf sword is bad you guys tricked me
>>532093271Tanaka, you rike?
>>532093351How is sword bad
>>532093292Problem is Carnelia is only good for 1st evo if you already have a catapult down
if you played catapult on a previous turn than you basically ff'ed the early game meaning you're probably dead to abyss
uhhh guys
I think my Yurius backfired on me
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>>532093351hmmm who could be behind this post i wonder
What the fuck am I playing against
>>532093347We had 5 sets in rotation in SV1.
With SV2 having 2 month smaller expansions, perhaps we'll have 6 or 7 sets in rotation.
>face dragon
>burnite
>that dragon nigga that gives everyone -9
i am not a dragon expert, but I don't think those cards should be in face dragon
I want titania to turn me into a fairy...
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>>532093412I'm getting aggrod by dirt rune of all things
>>532093351spear and mace always more superior than a sword bro
Anyone need the weekly battle a friend? Post your friend code and I'll warp to you.
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Was there a kill Forest missed?
>>532093536>not putting the sexiest cards into every deckI can see why you are not an expert
>>532093351>>532093412>>532093474How come when I make this shitpost with dragon, everyone actually agrees with me...
>>532093579Dirt is far more aggressive than D-Climb
>>532093573getting turned into a fairy against your will as her 4/4 feet step on you
>>532093089I'm a SwordGOD get it right you Dragonsissy.
>>532093579That's actually normal in the match up. Sword often has to play control against dirt and stall into Albert/Gildaria centric late games
>>532093643He has like 10 damage at best
>>532093673Titania giggling and saying you're her servant now and making you undergo identity death!
>>532093509Cheers, so practically still next year until legends rise rotates out.
>>532093643Didn't see the glade, it's like 16 damage?
>>532093668because sword's skill floor is quite low - someone who doesn't know a lot about the deck can expect to do better with it than other decks they are picking up.
I think sword also has a pretty decent skill ceiling, so it's not pure braindead - however, bad players should also play sword.
>>532093885Can confirm, my smooth brain is getting carried by sword
so uh wahts the downside of playing amalia
>>532093947my brain cant even handle sword so I have to play aggro sword
>>532093271thats my experience but with sword, for some reason they can live from pure topdecks indefinitely
I was playing this game on mobile while on the shitter, and I had to reflect whether I'm still playing this only out of card pack FOMO
literally HOW can you win a sword mirror going first. if they have Prim with coin it's over
Shorte leader next expansion
Everyone is playing Sword...
>>532093991You always open 3 of her.
>>532094106we need more rune negros
>>532094041play maid to kill prim ant turn her maid into 3/2
>>532094041sword really wants to go second - it lines up their zirconia with evo, they get to sevo first, and they get to albert first.
Look at this stupid fucking thing
>>532092682Why are you even asking this? Are you a fag?
>started the game with portal and haven
>now i want to play forest now because its not completely roach slop now
>so main is haven and secondary is forest
how fucked am i?
>>532093668sword is literally the garen/honda of shadowverse, the craft that lets new players feel big and strong by doing nothing
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how is it possible that I missed one day?
I played the lobby match EVERY day
>get midrange sword deck
>lose every time to faggot ass beetle from forest because no wards
HE HAS HEALED 24 FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>Sword
>Sword
>Sword
>Sword
>Sword
STOP PLAYING IT!
>>532094423I did tho, swear on KMRs life
Will they censor beast dominators hat again when she shows up?
>>532092718>gave fairies rushYOU are the petclass
WHY STANA DCLIMB
WY STANA DCLIM
WHWYWHWYWHYWHWY
AJBFADKJLFBASDKLFDNS
>>532092950Depends on how long of a lose-streak we are talking, 2-4? it can happen, 5-10? that's when you start to have a point
>>532093281why isn't isabelle real?
Is aggro Abyss into swordcraft a 1-99 matchup?
reminder that the only people bitching about heals are low iq aggro players
When was that time you went to the guild lobby? Player room?
>you're trying to play aggro
>your opponent curves out t2 mask of the black death, t3 blood moon, t4 revelation
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>532093579you only need to play gildaria and not only she clears you get a 2/2.
fucking broken card, was it really necessary to make her 6 mana?
>7-match win streak > demote
Yeah I'm sure quitting matches has additional penalty on your group
>>532094637it's not good but it's not 1-99, sword bricks at a higher rate
>>532094637>board ward vomit>board ward vomit>bare minimum lethal is 12 hpgo figure
>big chest
>look inside
>150 vials
>>532094689he's losing to odin next turn anyway kek
>>532094554Very cute.
She's grown on me a lot.
They still haven’t fixed the one mission? I just want my pack
>>532094676Lobby to pick up my rewards
Room when someone gave me a warp invite to get the weekly friend battle done
What does the vial liquid taste like
>>532094785They gave it to you in your mail instead
>>532094663There isn't a deck that wins off of not doing damage yet anon
Why does Runecraft mindbreak so many people?
Is it the real Nemesis class after all?
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Why does she need such huge honkers?
>>532094637>>532094723I'm like 60/40 with Face Dragon against Sword
.........but I deranked to Ruby playing Face Dragon so the morons I'm playing against suck
>>532094723Sword doesnt brick.
Spent all my fucking vials on spellboost deck and I can’t win a single game is this a psyop? I thought this deck was supposed to be good.
>>532094848Because she has five children.
With me.
>>532094914it's dirt bro...
I have won 9 out of my last 10 games as artifact portal.
But fuck this deck.
I have to think too much.
>>532094914Its a hard deck.
>>532094914Classic spellboost folds to aggro. You need to splash in the dirt heal for YES package.
What happened to the monstrous cards in sv1? Everything’s cute anime people now
>>532094914You might have brain issues, get checked ASAP
>>532095050its a metaphor, the real monsters are the people we see everyday
>>532094873face dragon is better against sword than abyss aggro, since sword wants to trade with their board and dragon has many intimidate cards.
They also cut apollo since they have gildaria, but that's a turn too slow when they're on the play.
>2 odin in hand
It's already over
>>532094723I switched to aggro abyss just to farm chests quicker and I faced 6 swords in a row what the fuck.
wow cool fucking card kmr
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>midrange sword
>S tier
My fucking ass
>>532095278whos at fault for changing the meta swordbab
This entire fucking set is going to be decks checking each other, the checked decks getting run out of the meta, then replaced by decks that counter the decks that countered them, repeated ad nauseum. Artifact will remain king the entire time during this but only 5 dudes on the planet will actually play it at a high level.
did they kill emulators or something? the game is constantly hanging at the loading screen and i cant login to my alt to finish the park missions
>>532092318>Dirt being from low tier into A-tierHow???
>>532095469wanna post your friend code, I need the weekly too
>>532095538Because its fucking awful, 8 mana do nothing.
>>532095538>heals 8+ for free against two of the best decks that can't lethal through high health valuesgee, I wonder why
>>532092318How long until we get an aggro meta?
Artifact portal is unfair and not interactive.
>>532095538People started removing the bad dirt cards and adding the good spellboost cards, like artifact did last set with the puppet cards
>>532095476>hand is all 6-drops>uses coin early
>>5320952312 more in a row. This shit is not random.
>>532095674silence tranny
>>532095538turns out the the cards that eat Dirt are quite overstatted for their pp cost and if you drop them on curve the opponent is going to have an awful time dealing with them
>16 matches for all chests
>7 wins 9 loss
Man maybe I'm bad.
1-cost spell, summon some kind of follower that is labeled as a 0-cost so it doesnt interfere with cerberus
>>532092318No way puppet is S tier
I'm telling you guys Norman is the most broken piece of shit ever
It's like someone at Cygames doesn't want Rune to have any weaknesses
>>532095538Ward Haven is dead so all the decks that were being checked by it are being unleashed into the meta.
>>532095774make it neutral so rune can use it too
Meta is genuinely awful to play, it's just board clear and heal spam hoping you draw wincon before your opponent
>tomorrow it will be dirt downplaying all day
>>532095570here you go 934317314916
>>532095793Rune is the favored class.
Sword is also quite good, but rune is the only deck where they actually feel like they're cheating sometimes.
So is take 2 coming with set 3 or is it coming a bit earlier? I know it's coming out mid-August which I would think would mean earlier but idk if I'm just shit at corpo math.
>swordnigger plays yurius
>no odin in hand
>lose
Nice game, shadowbabs.
Current meta is frustrating if you're trying to play anything that isn't mid abyss, mid sword, spellboost rune, or art portal
if you aren't doing the above 4 play aggro abyss and hope you highroll every game
or just tank account to topaz and play whatever the fuck u want
Diamond is very very sweaty rn
>>532094914>smartest sword player tries to play something that requires basic elementary math...
I swear every time I mulligan something for lower cost followers on Sword I regret it. I'm guaranteed to get it replaced with Amalia and Jeno.
>>532095957Its coming Aug 28th along with set 3.
Why are people playing pascales dance why would anyone remove foresight for pascales dance? Are people going insane? You only need 2 dirt for norman
Everyone and their mom are now spamming ward up the ass, why not just remove storm at this point
>>532096038>JenoYou should unironically cut him. He's not very good this meta.
>>532094412oh no no no aggrokek meltie...
>>532095793Not comparable to Aethereal Golem,Norman is actually dogshit compared to SV1 Dirt 6 costs
>>532095881You may think so, but try playing it and you will get gaijin draws and topdeck your first dclimb on turn 7 while takeshi's is currently at 23
Dragon is still a meme
Ward Haven is shit
And fuck knows where Arisa and forest went
>>532096120>draw 1 do nothing
>>532095538the 6 mana heal, draw, fill board any craft with that card would be good.
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lemao heal 14 one turn do pic related next lemao
wow they can literally run every single card from every archetype and make it work
i know i bricked hard but fuck
>force jeanne + super evo
>i clear and build a board
>drops aether
>i clear all but 1
>massive 2 drop + second jeanne
>clear jeanne but leave 2 guys alive, though i dont die and have lethal next turn
>third fucking jeanne
coool
>>532096057Aw man, that's kinda what I figured. I guess 2 sets probably isn't enough for a good draft mode anyways. I hope entry costs aren't too jewish.
3 chests with 50 vials each, 1 gold card, and this.
It was not worth it.
Going first is literally autolose. When are they gonna change it.
>>532095987Add Roach to that list and you have 5/7 classes being viable, that's actually pretty good for a class-based card game.
whole fucking ladder right now is aggro abyss, mid sword, mid abyss with some rune players splashed in
need a time machine to go back to the people saying abyss would be shit in this expansion
general was so fucking wrong its insane
literal best deck in the format
>>532096120You play one pascale's dance in proper honest dirt rune for the longshot chance of actually resolving the effect and making some LARGE LADS. If you see it in any of the mixed lists they're doing something weird for sure.
>>532096231That just how OP rune leggos are, even artifact can't run random legend
>>532094586Yeah two to like five tops is variance. When you start getting to double digits there is looking inward that needs to be done.
>WB Aiolon has the three androids genderswapped and ruined the whole world
I didn't think I would root for old man Belphomet
>>532095792true, it should be SS along with sword
>>532096170Better than draw nothing do nothing for +1pp, play 2 and it doesnt stack
>>532096246I think it was 1500 in the stream the other day. I may have imagined it though.
>>532096120Card draw dawg
>>532094914its funny how much seethe rune creates only for someone to post something like this, there have legitimately been double digit posts like this since the game came out, the general psyoped people into think its braindead and then some poor shitters waste their vials, enjoy your bricked account kek
>>532096306Shit bro, you got a gold card, that's more than most of us get. If it's one you didn't have a full set of yet that's a whole 750 vials worth!
>>5320955383x Anne Grea 3x Kuon does that to a deck
>>532095793Bro, let me heal 8 in peace. My petcraft needs it.
>>532096152>b-but Rune used to be even stronger browhy are you comparing it to SV1? they are not comparable
>>532096390>3 packs worth of rupeesSounds about right but it still LOOKS bad.
>all the swords and runes are getting massive winstreaks in master diamond
>rikka on AF is barely over 50% WR and his largest winstreak is 3
>Nooooo you cant just heal up past 12! My entire strategy of dropping Albert for lethal is fucking ruined!
Brother... it's turn 9... you gotta know when to call it quits
>>532096657Sword is the best deck in the format. Anyone saying otherwise is a downplaying swordbab.
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>Both Face and Ramp dragon are tier 3
Looks like i fell for the feet bait... is abyss a good alternative so i can win tournaments?
>>532095594Does this boost the artifacts?
>>532096464you did win though, right?
>>532096554Predator Golem lmaos at Norman
The problem with Runecraft is that it is quickly becoming something that doesn't actually have a weakness
Aggro is Rune's natural counter - as it should be - but if they print healing cards for Rune then Rune simply drops AnneGrea then heals in the midgame, making the early aggression not matter whatsoever
Because Rune then has access to Satan + Dclimb, Rune then beats all control decks because they can auto win the game late when control decks are trying to grind out the match.
So you can't aggro them
So you can't control them
You can try to COMBO them, but Roach currently does not exist in the meta because it has been pushed out of it
It's just egregious
>>532096657The anathema will change everything
>>532096739gives them storm
i feel like a king everytime i make a card have 9/11 statline
>>532096775cool, now play the actual game
>>532096739Gives them drain
>>532096716the fact that norman is a source of constant seethe while gildaria flies under the radar should be all anybody needs to know about this general
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>>532096657what does he even do here
>>532096746Nah, I was like 5 points or so from lethal
I dont get how people say aggro abyss is good. The meta is so hostile to it.
I'm not really bothered by the rate of actual playable card acquisition in the end. Like, I see the problems, starting late is probably fucking terrible even though I'm fine with my day 1 account.
But holy shit there's much little petty shit in the monetization that it'd barely hurt to fix. Daily packs contributing to your pity would only get you something like once a year, and it's hard enough to get a full set of for a leader. And the fucking sleeves in the shop being bundled together instead of sold individually is so fucking dumb when they're grouped by class, as though I'd ever need four Haven sleeves.
So we all agree Gildaria is the most broken card in the set, yes?
if i see dragon right now should i assume lamp or unga
>>532096935Aggro abyss is a good climbing deck because games end really fast
Other than that, yeah, it's not good atm
Meta has 4 decks at the top - really just 3 decks + 1 decent one
>>532096120You don't remove foresight, you run it at 3 and then you have a fourth special ed copy of it.
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>>532096903>zirconia into albert>hes dead on turn 5>demotes
>>532096953It's impossible to get to her Rally effect and sword is already evo hungry
What will be the first card to get nerfed?
>>532096953the most broken card is tanoshii witch but we love the little fellow so it's fine
>>532095793He's not. I mean yeah he is but you know what's even more broken? That fucking 5pp infinite spellboost card that gives rush tokens. Seeing that fucking asshole pop up every turn and give free board clear and spellboost is the most infuriating thing in the game. In SV1 they were cute and meme for creative deck builders, here they are utterly broken bullshit. I'm half a step from uninstalling.
>>532097040I thought portal vs sword impossible for sword?
They should nerf all high value endgame cards like Gildaria. It's not very fair that I can have 48 health and still lose because Sword is just outvaluing my cards and I just have to hope I draw Satan to win the game.
>>532096935A 4c Sword cast can trade for 4 abyss cards for less mana. Super balanced.
>>532095714what were they thinking?
the only thing he doesn't do is removal but that's A&G's speciality.
Odin is way to overcentralizing to the game. Literally every deck runs him. He should be nerfed to 8 cost.
>>532096602That's insane. It was 150 rupies in the original, so a pack and a half. Translated into WB prices it should be 750 rupies. Any higher is scalping the playerbase.
>>532097014also this nu-rp system encourages ungabungaing eveything
game is kusoge
>>532097240Also make him a 4/3 and remove storm.
>>532096897Rune players were never that big into downplaying honestly. They're sociopaths that look at their broken cards and go "yeah well i deserve it anyways you're all faggot pussy bitches i'm going to rope you after dragging the game on for 30 minutes by the way i have an incredibly small penis"
I'm not going to craft lilanthim or 3rd norman cause I think they'd make the deck worse but I kind of want to try lila
Well that was easy.
There's something absurdly fun about the Rune-aggro match-up.
It's oddly relaxing win or lose.
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Sorry roach bro. Should have Otked
I really want puppet to be good but that deck will be shit as long as it's "draw orchis or lose"
>>532096787KMR doesn't like losing
How can AA0 to Master be the majority of the Master grind?
I am already past 50k in A2 and Master is only 100k right?
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>>532097314For me I just love playing the villain.
The absurd seethe inducing plays I can make are glorious.
>>532097557>HavenYou got this unironically
I gone 6 times in a row first.
Swordmains complains about their worst matchup portal.
It's still a matchup where they can win early with zirconias, and completely deny portal with yurius.
How do they downplay their deck so hard.
>>532097649Because they think playing followers is honest.
>>532097649How is it even still worst match up when they can clear alouette pretty easily now, if anything forcing portal to always play gamma mean they never get a chance to do face damage
>>532097467I'm not even sure one Orchis is enough to finish most of the time.
>>5320976412 more games. Thats 8 in a row. Super random.
>>532097742how hard is double gamma to maintain?
>>532097509AA > Master is like 40k~, so its mathematically less than half, but the opponents are better than the ones you played to get there so it takes a longer amount of time.
>>532096935It can catch any slow decks. That's about it. Sword outmatches it in value and it's easily 50% of the meta
diamond forest btw
"high skill class"
definutely high skill to hit diamond by sending every single retarded card in this kusoge to face every turn
>>532096897it tells me that I love to see stupid retards like you endlessly seethe over the class that instantly loses to the 90% spellboost rune and ward haven japanese cunts won't stop running on ladder
>>532097314nah nigga rune is just fun and someones gonna seethe about me no matter what I play, might as well be what I enjoy the most, also my penis is average
>>532097842eh makes sense
is there GM this season?
I know there's master rewards.
do we know what they are?
>Lose a lot in a row
>Win once
>Promoted to sapphire
?
>>532097826Trivial as long as you can evo carnelia.
You don't "play" against spellboost since none of your decisions mean anything, it's entirely on the game
Either the game decides to give the rune player the most insane highroll possible that no deck can beat, or it decides to brick their hand and give you a free win.
What a retarded game
i play rune and rope every turn
yes even the mulligan
>>532097139One way to think of it is that Artifact now removes Lovestruck so it has more parts in exchange for worse tempo early on
>>532097742What do you mean? Swordbabs are still reliant on Phildau to clear Alloutte and Lesbo
Rune is the only class I think is pure bullshit. I am fine facing anything else
Prim is really fucking weak to seria I guess I have to play 1 less prim and add more seria cause it's terrible in the mirror
>>532096860A follower that multi destroys is way better than Norman
>>5320973251x Lilanthim is actually insane in spellboost. You aren't doing much with the 39/40 slot anyway, you already have to run a ton of dirt, and she'll occasionally win games on the spot.
>>532097987keep wasting your own time, i'm watching stream
>diamond is all sword
>most played is all sword
>most tourney wins is sword
FREE
SEVO
FREEEEEEEEEEEE
very fair and balanced
Sword is the easiest class to play and has ZERO bad match ups
>>532098043I kind of want to try and just draw it naturally theres still over a month
>>532098080yeah but all the SEAniggers on /svg/ play it so even when the class is pushing 70% winrate I have to hear about how it's everybody else who should be nerfed
>>532097805Make it 9. Not rigged at all.
>>532098080Sir, this is the sword downplaying general, you aren't supposed to point out that sword is good here.
>>532098043Stop polluting Spellboost with Dirt shit
>>532097325>>532098043parachan's explanation is that she basically auto wins some matches yeah, in particular, resolving her with a couple stacks in the spellboost mirror will generally just win you the game right there and if you don't need her you'll just end up shuffling her away
>losing this bad to fairies in late july 2025
Do runebabs really...
>>532098080Gildaria's free sevo should be nerfed into being a free evo.
>>532098080why do you think they spend all day itt talking about rune or haven
>>532098237watch him heal all the way to 20
>>532098080>ZERO bad match upsif you're going to ragebait at least make it believable
>look at my dirt deck
>play one dirt
>AnneGrea AnneGrea Norman Norman
>>532098291Fuck off Runescum
>>532096897Gildaria is board clear. I play board based shadow and yeah they completely revert your boards but you can just drop a new one. They haven't advanced their wincon beyond that. Meanwhile everything rune does advances its otk. Every single spellboost is the DShift going down and becoming Cocytus 0pp Dshift.
>>532098306>Get alouette or die>Get Salefa or die>""""bad match ups"""Sword doesn't automatically lose if it doesn't get one card specifically on turn 4 or 5.
>>532098321I don't play rune, swordbab.
>>532098080Sword is good because its the most consistent class. It has a positive winrate against every craft but portal and even for that it's a 40/60.
>>532098303He folded before I could show him the cool insect I found
>>532098381It's not even just getting Alouette. If you don't have any parts to form Gamma, you're fucked
0 and I craft lilanthim and globe her
How good is portal winrate anyway?, I'm not a meta person, i just enjoy having ralmia and doll cunny.
The only other craft that temps me is dragon.
>>532098492Gamma can't do shit to Zirconia. You can't even cope play it raw or launcher it. If they Zirconia, you 100% need Alouette or you die.
>>532098452i'm happy for you
>it's so unfair portal can clear board :(
>shit out full board every turn
swordbab
>>532098587Its alright.
Dragon is unplayable.
>>532098587Portal isn't as busted as sword, but it's still a solid tier 1 deck.
The only class with no bad matchup is Rune now that they can just outheal aggro and the moment they hit turn 10 they are always 2 cards away from winning
Is playing lyrala to try and heal a little in sword a bad idea?
>>532098587Portal is draw dependent. Get the gears early, and the bombs late, and you're golden. Get bricked early with no gears, and you lose.
>>532098492>If you don't have any parts to form GammaLiterally the only way that's even possible is if you hard bricked with 5+ cards that cost 6+.
>>532098181I would love to say I got second finally or that I reached 10th in a row first but I managed to farm my chests. Goodnight.
Spicies has 76% winrate with sword on master diamond btw
This isn't broken according to swordbab general
Keep in mind this the least complex, easiest to play, lowest skill ceiling class in the game. So it doesn't have the roach cope of "well it deserves to be the best because it's hard to master".
>>532098704Brother, rune teched so hard against aggro that they lost a lot of consistency in other matchups. Even my do-nothing control deck doesn't autolose against spellboost anymore and I have a solid fighting chance.
>>532098587Probably slightly under 50% unironically. They shit on sword super hard, but are mid as fuck vs everything else unless they highroll.
>>532097649The only thing I (swordfriend) complain about is dimension climb
>>532098612>Gamma can't do shit to Zirconia.lol.
>>532098704Is forest even positive against rune now?
>>532098828>recursions in your face
Get this nigger card away from me!
>>532098587>Pure portal>not very good>Pure puppet>not very good>hybrid (aka put in broken shits as much as possible)>Better than above, still rely on orchis to finish the match
Yeah....metas where Sword is a top deck are always bad metas
How does Cygames not realize this
A deck that is braindead easy to play cannot be one of the best decks in the meta
>>532098612so you just skipped turns till zirconia came out? because usually she will be used to kill something on your side. which means she's already on 3 hp and dead without alouette touching her.
>>532098853>Zirconia at 6/4>Play gammaNow what? You pass and let the 6/1 live? You evo and let the 2 2/2s live? Either way have to clear the board next turn, while sword already did the chip damage he needs to put you in Albert or centaur range.
>>532098815sword has a low skill floor, but I don't htink that means it also has a low skill ceiling. Once you climb to where your opponents are human, I think it's harder to play than most aggro decks and also most of the control decks.
>>532098923It's too late you're brown and gay now
>>532098913Ultimate Bahamut when?
>>532098938Yeah the class that has to actually play the game and control the board is a shit meta. They need to buff Rune they should have at least 90 healing
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>>532098492you can have both alouette and the parts to form gamma on curve and still lose
>>532098923Rude Balto is not a nigger. You frilly sock wearing fuck.
Do we know who the other Athema cards are?
DEAR FUCKING GOD HELP!!!!!!!!!
>>532099020Isabelle might be brown but she's OBSESSED with her boyfriend.
sword naturally ends up being the best since it doesn't suffer from having two incompatible archetypes sharing the same class
so every card ends up being potentially useful
>>532098939Artifact doesn't have a 3/x pre turn 6. And sword isn't going to lose fucking board to artifact hard enough pre turn 4 to let 2+ followers alive. So the cope now is "just get puppeteer bro" I'm guessing.
>>532099029Oh look, another swordfag deflecting to rune
I think we all agree that dimension climb should heal you the amount that the card is spellboosted
>>532098978You aren't sevo Zirconia, she will be used to kill something in your board which means she will lost at least 2 of defense, also you are forgetting that are cards that bring out multiple artifacts at the same time, I have won most games against aggro because I make an Alpha with Ward and I just keep using it every turn.
The match-up isn't as hard as you think it is.
All this Rune rage at Honest Sword is beautiful
>>532098913I play CAbyss so I can just kill her 6 times no problem. Or if I had a zombie man on board, she doesn't even clear the board and I can just Cerberus lethal.
>>532099112i mean, every AF portal i run into plays the 2/2 puppet bro and a 0 cost puppet puts her in gamma range...for free.
Why is there Sword upplay in the Sword downplay general?
>>532099081No. We'll probably see Forest and Portal next set since Abyss' legendary slots are probably on lock for the Shadow and Blood omens. Then set four will have both Abyss and maybe a neutral.
>>532099207This is sword's WORST match up. The fact that it isn't a 80/20 full sweep for artifact is a joke. It's a 40/60 at worst for sword.
>>532099234sentient human beings are tired of the sea foam shitting up the general with their bitching
Sword has always been board vomit the class in SV1 since sword is armycraft literally
I don't care I fucking don't care
I'll just play ramp and stay in topaz/ruby until the end of this set not my fucking problem I don't care
>>532099236>Abyss' legendary slots are probably on lock for the Shadow and Blood omensUnless they make a Rulenye and Valnareik 10pp combined do nothing card.
im sorry bros.. im gonna have to pay the tax, i dont want to see that nigger lovesign whenever i play forest.
forgive me..
I think sword is strong, but I think artifact portal is also strong and has the favorable matchup in the two.
I wish it wasn't so clunky to play though - fusing is so inelegant.
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is this shit broken now how am i supposed to play against my alt for missions
Remember when people were saying Rally 20 was too much? lmao.
>>532099218Oh so I run puppets to always Gamma nuke, thats it
>>532099357Blood wolf would be a bigger deal than her, as it would justify running Charon in aggro.
Don't worry bros. Sword is getting loot next set which will either be shit or too complex for the average swordtard to pilot. Either way, the deck will be less popular.
>>532099382No one think they gonna vomit this many ward follower making aggro pointless
>>532099297my face dragon is stuck in topaz/ruby hell too but at least i'm having fun
>>532099382preemptive sword downplay
at expected from the downplay-centric craft
this card is literally meta-defining it does everything for sword
>>532099339if I ever play forest or haven, I'll probably cave and buy the alt leaders.
>>532099382Rally 20 is rare to actually trigger, I think people forgot that you can just evo it normally.
>>532099382Turn 10 is slow as shit you got to Rally 15 by 7 with Twinblade OTK
I play both sword and Rune.
Both are kind of ridiculous in their own ways.
Most every class can be absurd in a vacuum.
It's the interactions that make the meta.
>>532099508I'll buy her too, even if i dont like abyss
>>532099454>implying Ortrice won't be better on the standard sword good stuff pile than on a full loot deck
>>532099564pick a side you fence sitting faggot!
>>532099297>>532099472Rolling Filene ticket tricked me into playing this shit craft. I want my vials I spent on Fort and Filene back
>>532099297Same been having fun with Ramp and flipflopping between Ruby and Sapphire.
If only they put a ramp card this set man, hoping they will in the next one.
>>532099269Yeah, it's super funny when you think about it, even their worst match up isn't a "Oh shit, I need to lock in or I will lose!" instead it's a "Yeah, this one could go either way"
>>532099331Maybe they'll just kill Ruleneye. I don't think anyone would miss him too much.
Could dazzling runeknight be playable in dirt? 3 pp for a 4/4 with ward is pretty decent and the deck doesn't seem to have a 3 drop.
>>532099339Arisa is the cutest
HOW DO I PLAY MY ALTS NOW AHHHHHHH EMULATOR ISN'T WORKING DO I HAVE TO USE MY PHONE
>>532099564>It's the interactions that make the meta.Yeah nice early curve into zirconia interaction swordbad
Yeah nice sevo on fanfare privilege interaction swordbab
Yeah nice uncontestable 12 guaranteed sword damage interaction swordbab
Yeah nice yurius floodgate interaction swordbab
>>532099598You know not who you are dealing with.
I am THE fence sitter!
>>532099647Must be nice having so many good cards you don't know what to add
>>532098994>but I don't htink that means it also has a low skill ceiling. Yes it fucking does. What fucking decision points does it have to make compared to every other class? Dragon has to balance lamping with life and tempo loss. Artifact has to correctly manage resources. Rune has to correctly casino into a highroll. Roach has to save resources for their OTK. Abyss has to manage life. Sword is the only class playing full statted followers on curve wihout paying a cost. Their early game is strong, their mid game is strong, their late game is strong. There's no weakness to exploit, and there's no period where they're weak compared to other decks. They have free wards, free removal, free evo, free draw. They don't have to pay evo for anything, which means they use the evo to pressure you with face damage. The only thing sword doesn't have is healing, and there's no fast burn deck in the game to capitalize on that. It previously struggled with board clears, but they gave it the best card of the expansion that sevos for free on top of board clear.
Why can't they just spawn the chest every game like normal human beings
>>532099685works on my machine.
Sometimes I forget that Dragon exist, I see it so little and they lose so quickly.
>>532099623>this shit craft
Wow I got a Zwei, I hope I get 2 more soon. :)
>>532099748Please understand, we need to keep player count high
>>532099647Its a neat decoy Ward for future Aggro Dirt decks
>>532099785It's a garbage craft, there is legit no redeeming it this set
Face is a huge meme compared to abyss or sword aggro
Ramp needs to high-roll early game and/or pray opponent kind of bricks or plays a slow deck like rune, then it needs to high roll early ramp cards, then it needs to high roll chicken and play it in a non-shit board state, then it needs to high roll draw power and finally it needs to high roll good draws
It's fucking garbage, most games where you survive the early game go on forever
>>532099454>Barbaros is the other lego and steals Octrice's leader slotImagine the seethe.
>>532099454Please god I need her.
Sword is so meta and game warping that they forced rune players to play more followers and less casino. They forced the highroll, greedy spellboost niggers to actually give up the only reason they play the class for. That's how you know sword is tier 0 broken.
>>532099987How can you fix Dragon anyway? Ramp is pretty much designed for late game shenanigans after all.
At this point they should just make Odin cost 8 and banish entire board
Bros why are puppets tied down to portal?
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I wish she was better than karula
>>532097137yeah that card is so annoying makes all my 2/1 and 1/1 ward skeletons completely useless
>>532100105Yes but only if he also banishes himself too
>>532099692Ok now do Rune.
you may hate it but this is peak face dragon performance
Are there any good artifact autists to watch?
>>532100139I wish their effects were swapped, I just want to play with cute girls and giant robots, not guys.
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>>532100079give them ramp cards that do something
like picrel
>>532100079We all know this rodeo. At some point they're going to print the necessary ramp for the deck and it's going to jump into turbo cancer immediately. We'll spend months bitching about it and wishing Dragon never became good, then rotation will hit and the deck will go to shit again. We'll cry about it being useless, and the cycle will repeat once ramp hits critical mass again.
>>532100074What followers is spellboost being forced to run that aren't already part of their gameplan?
Melvie?
Norman?
>>532100139Just wait for take 2.
>>532089667 (OP)>have to wait probably over a year or more for this bitch to be a leader>cunts will make it gacha too and I have to roll twice for honescreen or its bp and it doesnt have any :^)))))))God damnit
>>532100126The class is for synthetic stuff, a puppet is a primitive wooden robot
>>532100079>Finnie>Redraw your hand>Return 4ppBefore you say this will make her OP, you still need to draw this bitch out of 40 cards nevermind the ramp card
Why they give this lameass fraud as bp leader? Shota abyss is nice but not this. Why they punish their loyal customer? Did they think they can get away with this because people will always buy bp? Did they have some sadistic sexual fetish where they cum if people buy their trash bp? Too bad because I'm not going to buy bp this time.
Update, Spiecies has 80% win rate in diamond master. He's exclusively fighting runes built to counter sword and artifact portal.
Spellboost niggers are so greedy they tried to fit all the dirt goodies in their cancer deck, but they'll pay for their sins
>>532100197rikka but he just ended stream after getting demoted
>>532097040
playing rune vs haven is so comfy
1-4 turn do nothing
late game, just bully
>>532100079Just bringing back accelerate would help them a lot.
>>532099987Dragon is better this expansion. The megalorcas are good. And Neptune will be a cancerous card next set.
>>532099453You're absolutely fucking delusional if you think they're giving us Blood Wolf.
Play rate of crafts in the tournament that just finished
Rune: 9
Portal: 3
Sword: 1
Haven: 1
Forest: 1
Abyss: 1
>>532099382is amazing how wrong can /svg/ be, they said the sword card was bad, called ginsetsu op and said grimmnir was a insta add in every deck agroo or control
>>532100227>>532100308Those are some good cards.
Demote is not a huge deal, you need like a 65% winrate to not demote, everyone will eventually demote.
>Midrange Abyss never runs out of resources
>Rune never runs out of resources then satan dclimbs you
>Sword always has the looming threat of a 12 damage kill in your face
This meta is fucking ass lmao
we need some emergency nerfs
>>532100227>3 cost evolvei like my ramp on curve sorry
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>>532098587kinda reliant on not bricking on draw if you want your gameplan or making a mech and buffing it so it has ward+draw but when it happens you have a solid chance of winning. Main draw is you absolutely bully the living shit out of sword players
>>532100320>point out artifact streamers are averaging 55-60% winrate>”ummm thats literally tier 1 numbers”so what does that make sword
>>532099637Retrained Ruleney is based af though
>>532100396>Rune: 9really makes you think
>>532100390I miss the good dog though...
>>532099297I'm too easily tilted, so I can't do that
I do care when I don't draw my ramp card
I do care when I don't draw my early drop against aggro
I do care when I don't get Hoe-chan
I do care when Rune gets to have a better top-end than me and they can just OTK me because duhh Rune needed it
>>532100320He's not even playing midrange sword. He's playing the aggro variant
>>532100396>not even a single Dragonbros...
>>532100453I never not seen portal not curving out, playing orchis at 8 and their allouete at 4 and 5
>>532100079NTA but it's by giving it more ramp cards. Most high cost Dragon cards are Ramp-taxed, meaning they're kinda bad for the cost you need to pay. The point of ramping is bringing late game units into midgame, and win it with the sheer difference in stats.
Ho-chan is the facilitator for that playstyle, making every card you draw from then on being discounted so you just flood your board with high stat units while also clearing theirs.
Problem is though, if you aren't ramping in the first place you can't reach her fast enough, and by the time you get to throw her out your opponent will have their late game units ready, which is better than your late game units because of the ramp tax.
>>532100401>called ginsetsu op Shadowfags always hype up their shit. They've been tricking people into investing in their shit legos for a literal decade now.
the ENTIRE ladder is abyss and sword
holy shit
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>>532100440you evolve her on 4 and clear 2 guys while healing 3
>>532100469Sword is the tier 0 deck of this format.
>>532100161>b-but runeFuck off already, sword was better than rune in set 1 and sword is tier 0 in set 2 right now
>>532100607this is the future you chose
>>532100396ummm but clearly Rune is bad now because they have to uhhhh... they have to run tech cards... and uhh they have to use dirt cards... and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>532100315I think he is cool but two dudes in a row is gay
>>532100401Most of /svg/ ginsetsu a 9pp do nothing. Are you retarded?
>>532100641>>532100654>Sword is tier z-Then why was there only one sword player in the tournament?
The runefag cries in pain as he satan dshift astaroths you
>>532100072>this little girl literally killed her own dad so she can rape, pillage and kill all across the seven sea.I wonder if she watch everytime her crewmate brought womens in deck to rape. Also if I remember there is 2 women in her crew too.
>>532100708I love my 9pp do nothing wives.
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>Switch to sword
>Game hands me a perfect curve without having to redraw AND lets me go second
wow it really is that easy!!!
>>532100401>/svg/ is one person............
>>532100396What tournament?
>>532100708no, i know for a fact thats false.
because when they revealed it, i was the one calling it 9 pp do nothing and everyone was arguing with me
>>532100795this one, presumably. people were posting about it in the thread a bit. I think it was only the first day though? there's supposed to be 256 players
https://youtu.be/GT5fCYTDHDM
>>532100758I have literally never seen a runefag cry in pain, they are probably laughing at you as they do that
>>532100401>called ginsetsu opLOL. In what revisionist world? All I heard was
>9pp do nothing>9pp worse amalia
>>532100763>tfw you will never be her personal cabin boy Why even live….
>>532100796you were probably arguing with one guy
the entire general was callimg her worse amalia while a abyss’s strongest soldier was trying to convince people shes good actually
Is there any site where I can see the leaders of SV1? I need to know.
>>532100875Oh wow, 3 hours of shadowba for me to watch! Thanks for sharing.
>>532100887all of them were me, im the biggest ginsetsu hater and people was arguing with me back then
>>532100969https://svgdb.me/leaders
here ya go anon
>>532100983a LOT of it is dead air and commentary so it's probably more like an hour and a half
>"""Spell"""boost
>every legendary spellboosts 20
Real tough deckbuilding, having to balance followers and spells!
>>532100878They probably feel slimy and disgusting at having to rely on such pathetic means to steal victory from a better player. They can pretend to enjoy it but deep down they know they are a fraud.
>2pp 1/1
>Fanfare: steal all fanfares and last words from everything on the field including your own followers
>gain +1/+1 for each effect stolen
>Super Evolve
>steal all crests from your opponent
>>532100396BALANCED 6 CRAFT META
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>>532100938Why is this card a silver again?
>>532101037you are playing a childrens card game bro, its not that serious lmao
>>532100993NTA but I was also calling her a 9pp worse Amalia and also encountered a lot of pushback from people saying she's actually good.
>>532101105If she was a gold would you feel better about it
>>532101025Thanks, kinda sucks how blood and shadow now have to gamble on which one will be their next leader.
ginsetsu sucks because we're in a rune meta and rune autowins on turn 10
>>532101026you can remove the spellboost from AG and Kuon, and they would still be broken cards btw. Auto 3x in every Dirt decks
>>532101105COMING THROUGH COMING THROUGH WHOAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>532101067>>steal all crests from your opponentThe moon drives me crazy
>>532101037Rune players are all assholes anon. They actively want the dirtiest win possible.
Is there an option to see my opponent's hand in a replay? I'm always curious what they could have done.
>>532101172Ginsetsu sucks because we're in a sword meta and sword autowins against abyss by playing Amalia or Amelia+Luminous before Ginsetsu can come out.
Can someone post something funny already? Some kind of downplaying? They're my favorite posts, thanks.
Rune is this overpowered DESPITE having ONE storm follower (tied to super evolve) and ZERO burn cards.
Can you imagine the shitshow if they got old as dirt man, blademage, and Zealot of Truth? You have to wait until Dclimb rotates out before Rune should be allowed burn or storm at all.
For the record Sword, Dragon, and Abyss run ALL their storm and burn cards and still can't close out games against Rune.
>>532101105>silvers aren't allowed to be good
>>532101025Man I understood it in my head but I didn't really FEEL how few leaders were male before now
>>532101067She will be 7pp 3/3 steal keywords from one follower do it again on super evo and you will like it
>Sword not only forces every other class to run multiple board wipes but also now forces them to save removals in their hand or risk being checkmated by Yurius
ONE class is warping the entire game
>>532101376the low quality really adds to it
thanks
We need an emergency Rune nerf or even deletion
>>532101172ginsetsu because she's a 9 pp card that does nothing to win you the game. Reactive cards are inherently worse in every single CCG. She has no way to push an advantaged. You play her on an open board state with 12 or less hp, you die next turn. Opponent can pass with 12 or less hp against ginsetsu , and nothing happens to him. She's a 6/7pp tier card effect, not an 8+ (those need to apply pressure and win the game).
>>532100534>I do care when Rune gets to have a better top-end than me and they can just OTK me because duhh Rune needed itI don't dislike this matchup too much, early game you're slightly favored because you play more low pp followers and unless you get fucked by their curve really hard you have good chances
Neptune heal is clutch in this matchup, unlike what /svg/ tards pretend rune 20 -> 0 OTKs are not guaranteed at all so keeping your HP high is good. Of course you will lose to satan or kuon OTK sometimes but that's just how it is, just like they will somes lose to your dumb high roll shit sometimes as well
I struggle the most when they get a perfect grea norman kuon curve but that's some high-roll shit, norman in particular is problematic because you don't have many good answers in this pp range so you probably have to spend your entire turn to clear and at least 1 golem with stay on the board
>>532100396it hasn't ended. top 8 in 25 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk5cIxwSIk
my shitty face dragon deck doesn't work anymore... i climbed to diamond with it day two of the expac...
>>532101376based dragon king
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give her back to me
>>532101391I have only once had a yurius played against me, I have had infinity of every other sword card though
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I feel like a anime protagonist when I play rune because youre behind all game then at the end you do a big finisher combo with dclimb and im like, “it’s time to pay for your transgressions this duel im here to end this I activate dimension climb refilling my pp and hand!,” and the imaginary people watching my game on tv gasp are the announcers are like 20?! pp that’s absurd that must be legendary card and then I win and the crowd roars and I banish the portal player to the shadow realm and I’m happy
>>532101391Just this morning I lost a hand check to Yurius. That card feels very painful to have when you don't have the right kind of out in hand.
>>532101563>because youre behind all gameYou're behind until turn 5 and then you are ahead for the rest of the game
>>532101391I get AIDS playing against sword it's so ridiculously overpowered it's insane
And these niggers complain other decks allegedly beat them in the late game
>>532101501I've also only had him played against me once but he did immediately end the game when played. I just had no answers for his appearance at all since I never see the fuck.
Storm is the only way to enjoy this game
>Open /svg/
>Nothing but crying
It's getting tiresome.
>>532101605>until turn 54 if you're going second
Maaaan, I wish our inevitable im@s collab was with Shiny Colors or Gakuen instead of CG, but it's 100% going to be CG again since Cygames has their fingers in that pie.
>>532101391Yet it only matters in the mirror. If you are literally any other class and not a fucking retard, you have a 4pp or less out to the card. Stop wasting your reaping slashes and stormy blast on valse or samurai.
>>532101452Sword has too much tempo and too many wards for aggro to ever work. If anything, you're the one who'll be struggling to keep up with their board.
Ginsetsu sucks but Yuzuki is fucking amazing.
>>532101691>Stop wasting your reaping slashes and stormy blast on valse or samurai.Zirconia hands typed this
>>532101434They can OTK you, and in a long game they will OTK you, and OTK doesn't mean it have to be from 20 like you said.
They also can heal out of your funny double Genesis range, and put up wards to stop it, and put out threat to make you response. It's not really a Lamp thing, every deck struggle with Rune with how much of everything they have access to
>>532101632what beats sword lategame? rune and?..
>>532101685Yeah, I'd love to have Saki and Ume as leaders.
>>532101718One sucks while the other tongues your anus
>>532101691>If you are literally any other class and not a fucking retard, you have a 4pp or less out to the card.forestsisters..... all of our less than 4pp answers require playing multiple followers....
>>532101785>NowYou implying it was good before...
>>532101685as long as they cosplay, I'd be fine.
I want hiro's flat hiros if possible
>>532101691I don't run reaper bricks in my deck because they kinda suck in every other matchup, so my only outs to Yurius are Odin and ginsexu. If I don't have either in hand, I lose.
>>532100396i thought sword was t0?
are they EVER gonna make a battlepass that doesn't have a homo for leader
>WTF fuck you I love cool guys I'M NOT GAY
stfu
>>532101451thanks for the link anon
>>532101797rune, dragon (although it's hard for dragon to get there), and artifact portal on average (really depends on how the game has played out).
Roach beats it as well, but roach has huge problems against the rest of the meta so it's not really played.
>>532101127Worse Amalia and worse luminous magus is still good enough for more honest decks to play.
>>532101917I'm happy to get dudes on the battle pass. I like my waifu leaders but variety is nice, it's a bit much that all three pack leaders are waifus.
My problem is WHY THE FUCK DID WE GET THE DUDE WHO HAS THREE SCENES INSTEAD OF FINNEAS IF WE COULDN'T GET JEW WAIFU?
>>532101917>WTF fuck you I love cool guys I'M NOT GAYI love cool guys but this bp leader is just a pathetic fraud jobber, literally anyone else in diawl's story would have been better, even the pink haired femboy because at least he's actually relevant to diawl's character
>>532101917I'm a deeply closeted homosexual and I haven't liked either of these battle pass leaders.
If only albert was part of the battle pass.
>>532101451Do they announce this stuff on jap twitter or something? Or should I visit the WB site more...?
>>532102035>even the pink haired femboyThat's gonna be either a gacha leader or a crystal leader.
>>532101917Nio was the last good BP leader
>>532102069it is community tourney, not official tourney, so of course you should see twitter
>>532102069It's not an official tournament or anything. Though the pros are here.
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>game is now last forever cause aggro is dead in a shitter
>chest still random RNG horseshit
>>532101917They pick the worst guys too, why the jobber shota and the fraud knight instead of handsome squidward robot and psycho doc?
how the fuck are you guys managing this meta
its so fucking bad man
sword, rune, and abyss literally all have infinite value
you cannot play anything else
>>532101878Are you playing aggro? You win before turn 8 anyways. If you're playing any other abyss archetype you're running reaping slash.
>>532101825fairy fairy lily, super evolve lily. Wow that's hard. You have a billion cards and tempo swings with Glave anyways.
>>532102238the point is that you take 3 damage for doing that
>>532102221Roach forest is still alive and well and super cheap
I am THIS close to crafting 3x Aragavy and switching from face dragon to aggro abyss
>he wasted his rupees going for shit leaders for shit classes instead of saving them for the omen leader tickets
>>532102221If you're complaining about value, I don't think we're playing the same game.
Damage and tempo are king, not value
>check puppet streamers
>not a single one above sapphire
lol
>>532102238>Are you playing aggroI'm playing control and I have so much removal I generally don't feel the need for reaper bricks, with the sole exception of the Yurius hand check. Cutting a more generally useful card just to have an extra answer to Yurius would feel bad.
>>532101917WTF fuck you I love cool guys I'M NOT GAY
>>532101127>>532100708ok, i looked at the archive.
most people was calling it 9pp amelia right at release, for some reason i did get a lot of people calling me retard for calling it a brick but was way after it was released
>>532102187How is aggro dead? There's no aggro up in diamond or something? I've been climbing pretty steadily with aggro abyss and made it to sapphire just now.
>>532102283Then Aerin and you don't die to Albert next turn. Sorry roachfuckers are spoiled they don't need to run a pretty strong control card because they just 20-0 on turn 8 anyways.
>>532102317I have been saving for Lish since week 2 of the fist set
>>532102384The meta is Rune, Midrange Sword, and Portal all of which rape aggro
>>532102221It's pretty fun. Helps not being a shitter though.
>>532101685We could get some Gakuen maybe? The dev for that game and Cygames share the same parent company.
>royal won
is that it then? I'll be taking the freedeck
>>532101917Watch Sylvarius be a hot girl under the armor.
Cygames do that shit all the time
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Can someone explain what this cutie does.
God forbid people play a nice f2p deck like runecraft. You guys just hate when us free players beat your p2w asses.
>>532102347I don't understand why you would ever run puppet instead of artifact. You can still run orchis in artifact and you get 90% of the reason to play puppet there.
>>532102408>Waah waah I got 3600 free vials, woe is me
>>532102435Portal instantly folds to aggro abyss unless they open the god hand.
Stop downplaying dragoncraft. Neptune is an overtuned as fuck card.
>>532101785it's bad cause odin deletes dragon timmy followers after chicken
>>532102465puppet portal boss
>>532102497neptune and shirtless aquaman are strong as fuck yeah but the rest of the craft sucks
>>532102317I don't really care about the Omens. I'm going to craft what I need from the next set and keep saving beyond that for leaders that I actually want to play.
>>532102435>coin Beryl>6 damage is guaranteed unless your opponent has the single one out
>>532102251lel, same as me.
legendary packs can give you legendary from both exp it seems.
how the fuck is this meta fun
its not fun at all
sword, rune, and abyss all shit out infinite cards forever
that shit isnt fun
its just dumb
they dont need evo points to do shit forever
just stupid
>>532102478Artifact is favoured against aggro abyss. Literally just spam gamma and alpha, making gamma first and alpha second.
>>532102497>bro just get to 7pp neptune bro don't worry bro aggro decks and sword don't exist
no, i shant be crafting homo
just not gonna play portal this round
>>532102497oh shit a sword player just lost to dragon
>>532102465Makes 2 amulets, the white one heals your face every turn and the black one burns the opponent
The amulets get discounted by destroying your own followers, so you run her mostly in puppet
>>532102221>>532102584are you going to make this another ritual post
>>532102530It's better than getting a 2nd or 3rd copy of several legendaries you don't give a shit about, retard.
>>532102584>sword, rune, and abyss all shit out infinite cards forever>that shit isnt fun>its just dumb >they dont need evo points to do shit foreverIt's funny because this is exactly what ramp dragon is designed to be doing except it has to jump through hoops to get there and other decks do it better anyways
>>532102465I can't look at her the same way now without thinking of the robo horse girl.
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>>532102221tempo forest is finally a somewhat viable deck so I've been having fun
>>532102465Makes big amulets and cares about your own shit dying. Her and her groupies will replace all the bad cards in puppets.
>>532102757Post dick
I got titania leader and I haven't tried nu-forest yet
>>532102435I think sword is definitely a poor match up, portal as well can be close too, rune though I don't feel at a disadvantage with abyss at least. I am only in Sapphire though so I'm sre Diamond will be worse and have way more of them.
>>532102584zombies are not as good as i expected, sword deals with them so easy that they could pretty much not be there, but they are good for other matchs so i dont know what to do.
>Neptune
>OP
>super evolve for 4 heal
>>532102593You're already dead by turn 5 if both players open average hands.
>>532102221Uh, artifacts...?
>>532102864>Super evo heal 4, kill 3~ enemy followersLiterally Sylvia.
>>532101452my first day of chests, i might have to cave in and make a real deck...
>Dirt was the meta all along
>>532102864This. It's a very fair and honest card. Should be buffed to be quite honest.
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>>532102812douzo
the only card I'm really unsure about is bayle, he's very strong if you have him in the start obviously but if you draw him later in the game you feel pretty bad about it. I've seen some lists run amataz but I personally don't run into enough aggro to justify it. I tried out glade for a bit since I run into a lot of sword but he doesn't feel the best since you don't hold onto cards as much as you do with roach
Puppets need something in the 4 or 5 slots that give a puppet(s) in hand storm. That could have beena Zwei evo, but they didn't want the archetype to be good.
I'm playing roach now. Runefags made me do this. I didn't want to use my superior IQ to win but you gave me no choice. Try spellboosting from the grave, bitch.
>>532103018Ward is worth 1pp
>>532102867Brother, I played aggro abyss for some time, I won only one or two games against artifact portal out of around a dozen. That shit was legit my single worst matchup and felt almost unwinnable. My overall winrate was still over 50%, but almost every artifact game was a loss. Early gamma followed by alpha later just completely kills aggro.
>>532102991>no LilanthimCringe and doesn't count.
>30 packs into this expansion
>have 95% of a completed sword deck after pulling the last two Roses I needed today and just need 1 more prim to have everything
>only thing I crafted was 2 Odins which I was using for Dragon
I didn't even fucking want to play sword but they just gave me the perfect deck while all my other classes have jackshit
>>532102951the best artifact player just demoted to sapphire
>>532103029People cried about Orchis for the entire expansion. So they nerfed puppet by giving them nothing in this expansion.
>>532102991People shit on early game Rune but their dirt cards have the most value of any cards in the game. You never run out of dirt piles cause you can just engage to gain 1 every turn.
Runefags don't want to play this style because there's no burn or dopamine rush like Dclimb Cocytus.
>Abyss
>Sword
>Sword
>Sword
>Abyss
>Abyss
i honestly miss getting roached
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>>532103029Puppet/Lishenna will be meta next set. Artifact is paying the Anathema tax for you.
>>532102814Anyone telling you that rune is a good deck vs aggro (especially abyss) is a deluded retard, aggro is the one (and virtually only) rune weakness
The aggro matchup is so bad that non-shit spellboost players have started using more and more dirt cards and early followers and they hard mulligan for sagelight + dirt
SAVE ALL RUPIES FOR VAMPY
>>532103251this would be so fucking good in current artifact
her name is Vania you dumb tourist
>Dimension climb also spellboosts your hand 5 in addition to a free turn* for 0 manait's actually comical how out of place this card is compared to every other card in the game
it's even more wild to remember this is the nerfed version in this game
>>532103229once you climb high enough, you run into the infinite rune gambit. You should also watch the tournament someone linked here, it is actually over half rune.
>>532103336Dorothy not Daria btw
How do I deal with ward haven as dollfuckers? My puppet cannot keep up with their ward spam. I thought Sword wards is bad enough. Even Rune have ward spam now.
>>532103315No it wouldn't. Its win more as fuck.
>>532103220Pure dirt lacks the opportunity to just win for free no matter how far behind they are. Runefags can barely play the actual game and rely almost entirely on doing nothing and then winning.
When are we getting Dorothy as a follower card?
Why must AF Portal have answer to fucking everything, fucking hate playing against them
>anne grea
>anne grea
>odin
how the fuck do you fight that
>>532103375>engage amulet>spawn protected artifact>play this to draw 2 for free
>>532103251Imagine if we got this instead of lolfuckingcat
>>532103373This is a weird post, Ward Haven has an even worse matchup against Pure Puppet than Rune. Run Odin x2 in case of Wilberts I suppose.
uhhh bros? did no one notice how they nerf the leader ticket rate for this expansion?????????
did they announce it at all?? is this even legal????
whick deck do i play if i want to reach diamon
>>532103251this would be so fucking good in current puppet
>>532103373Play a real deck instead
Do abyss players actually enjoy 30 minute games or something
like i almost want to top left whenever i see them drop a phildau
like brother
this is suffering
our match is going to last a fucking hour
stop
>>532103187It's AF portal card anyways and it's still broken
>>532103045we both know you cant count. dont do this.
>>532102478Aggro Abyss is a joke agaisnt portal. Abyss run out of steam fast when portal can heal forever.
>>532103373Mulligan for Odin and save for their wilbert turn. Orchis + 0 cost puppets for their aether. If they don't sevo the aether you can Sylvia.
oh so now everyone wants to play forest
im so tired of chest events bros
>>532103512>phildauthis is a sword card
>>532102864>7pp 13/13 wide board ward and heal that can reactive and clear board.She's broken. It's just lack of consistant ramp that's holding her back. When they reprint their pet omen Galm and make dragon good again, she will be so bullshit cancerous. So don't fucking complain when dragon becomes tier 0 next set.
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finally i am free
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You are 9 inches deep inside Ginsetsu and Yuzuki is 9 inches deep in you.
Do you move forward or backward?
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>>532103251If I had to pick one Lish card to run in WB artifact it would be this one
If you're playing Abyss at the Park and it takes you more than 5 seconds to play your turn, I'm quitting.
Ramp sucks, do not make this deck. I only did because I had every card.
Failed the promotion trial 3 times and demoted to Sapphire. Dragon needs serious help.
>>532103632back, I want yuzuki deeper
>still need to craft 1 more aria and titania
..do i have to craft 2 more of the amazon bitch or can i finally play fairies after this?
>>532103678do not craft lymaga, almost no lists run her and the ones that do run her as a 1 of
>>532102991I dont get the glacial spike card
>>532103678Does forest even play Aria anymore?
>>532103512>Do abyss players actually enjoy 30 minute games or somethingYes, I do.
If you are not playing:
- Midrange Sword
- Midrange Abyss
- Spellboost Rune
- Artifact Portal
- Aggro Abyss
Than you are a masochist that enjoys losing
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>>532103373You evo indomitable fighter for 7 hp so wilbert cant do shit then coin odin and hit their face for 14
>>532103520I don't need to count. I have the power of the subconscious. It does all the math for me to magically produce lethal every time.
>>532103638based, but i do that vs everyone
>>532103485>2x Odin3x Odin is standard in puppets. Just save your puppets for Aether turn, and Odin for Wilbert, and the match up is free. He probably played it wrong like an aggro tard.
>>532103736https://shadowverse-wins.com/?mp=Master&leader=E&seasonId=62&format=rotation&more=10
3 out of the 4 forest master diamond 10+ winstreaks run her
Is it possible to beat mid-range abyss with dirt rune?
>>532103487what the FUCK
isn't the 0.060% supposed to account for the fact the you need to pull THREE (3) of them to complete a set? what the fuck is this stealth nerf? are they just gonna slowly nerf this until it's back to SV1 rate while still making you pull for 3 of them
I don't think anyone have noticed this
>Portal is so strong they don't need Masterwork Artifact to win games anymore
>Rune is so strong they don't need Enhanced Kuon to win games anymore
>Abyss is so strong they don't need Cerberus to win games anymore
Meanwhile
>Forest is entirely reliant on Roach
>Sword is entirely reliant on Albert
>Dragon is entirely reliant on god curving aggro or Ho-chan cheat into double genesis
>Haven is entirely reliant on.....what the fuck do they do again?
>>532103769frogslop, not reading and avatar usage
>>532103769Anon.... Your info is out of date
It's called Hybrid spellboost dirt now.
>>532103769pls undastando that f2p poor cannot make more than 1 deck, thus must seethe endlessly
>>532103910Swordbab hands wrote this post.
Ah, feels good to high roll against rune nigger
>>532103910Haven prays you can't kill their wards if they're dumb and built that instead of sticking with storm haven
>>532103962No shit, these retards are playing the objectively best deck in the game and are crying about the only 2 classes that go 50/50 against them 24/7.
>>532103487Quick post it into r*ddit
>>532103648It's a fundeck
Unbelievably shit, but satisfying when you pull off a ho-chan victory
>missing 5 legendaries in my sword deck
>made it to Master sapphire
holy kek what is this class
I CAN'T FUCKING WIN AS HAVEN, NEITHER AS STORM OR WARD HOLY FUCK
IT'S SO FUCKING SLOW COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE AND YOU HAVE JACK SHIT FOR LATE GAME ANYWAY
>>532103910Haven relies on not dying the first 5 turns. Then perfectly curving while praying that the enemy doesn't have the out to aether then finishing w/ Jeanne. Pretty straightforward game plan.
>>532103910You win games with evo attrition in sword as well, especially if you're on grimnir + gildaria
You normally need albert to close against rune (or centurion if you're running one), but rune's just a really good deck.
>>532104038rune is the best deck at a high level. Sword is the best deck at the levels below it. Sword is still good at a high level, but it's indisputable rune is the best.
They ruined dshift it should really skip the opponents turn
>>532104028IM SICK OF PLAYING THE FUCKING BIRDS
Hmm... maybe... i craft 2 odins...
>>532103498Face Dragon, Aggro Sword or Aggro Blood. Spam games
>>532104019how big did he get?
>>532104069Haven is burst damage deck, so add things in your deck that increases damage of follower dark side
>>532100763Her, Tidal Gunner and Tidal Scout all rape little boys onn ships they raid
>>532104121where the FUCK is satan
What counters sword completely this set? What makes them suffer?
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>is the most blatantly overpowered card in the game
>no one complains about it
>>532104214artefact obviously
>>532104224the top 5 broken cards are all sword
>>532104028storm gets gaped even harder
>>532104214Nothing, their worst match up is slightly unfavored. There's no hard counter, because the deck doesn't have any glaring weakness.
>>532104121Yes, please run this list without satan.
t. Control player
>>532104214Doesn't exist
Artifact only is like a 6:4
>>532104069I made it through sapphire really easy with haven and dropped out of diamond almost immediately. What helped me was saving coin for wilbert everytime I go second since the enemy can't respond with Odin at 6pp.
>>532104214Healing. So Rune.
Sword folds to heal because their whole gameplan is to chip you away into Albert.
>>532103512>Do abyss players actually enjoy 30 minute games or somethingTanaka-san, you thought that you were commuting to work. Instead you are on Cerb's wild ride.
>>532104304how does it feel to play 1 game every 20 minutes?
>Yay tanoshi
>Yay tanoshi
>Yay tanoshi
>Yay tanoshi
>Yay tanoshi
>Yay tanoshi
>>532104181Why infinite recursion man doesn't stop them?
>>532104142Not that big, I was hoping for one more turn so I could have evolved her and use the dark side lol
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no fucking way
Very few things embarass me, but making a minor misplay because I forgot to click a card is enough to make me quit out out of perfectly winnable games.
>>532104353As long as I get to keep the opponent hostage, I enjoy it.
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Lilanthim is fucking awful. Why the fuck is she 8pp?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhemMCq0xY
>/svg/ thought every anathema is flop
>>532104121yes play useless cards like Rainbow, Miranda, no dirt, and no Cocytus.
Need to bring rune winrate down so downplayers look good on the stat sheet.
>>532102991lol what the fuck it works
clueless opponent went for face damage instead of clearing my 2/2s
>>532104114>tfw find ward haven more fun compared to storm because it feels nice to actually have dudes out on the field survive more than one turn>your wincon requires you to get a perfect draw in a craft that has basically no good draw engine other than a amulet and the 3pp neutralI think it'll be better in another set or two if they give us some amulet wards or a easier wincon
at least it completely fucks over roaches I guess
>>532104224sword gets
>jeno>valse>amalia>albert>gildaria>luminous mage>ameliaand still has the audacity to complain about any other craft
>>532104069the point of haven is that it's fucking dogshit and it can be amusing to sometimes win despite that
if you're not interested in that sort of thing why are you even playing it
>>532104224Everyone has just accepted that he will always be a 2-1 that gets an enhance ability added on top because fuck it why not
>>532104425i'll never trust parachan again...
Remember to keep bitching about sword being broken. Don't let then find out about the pro tournament where 70% of them are playing Rune
>>532104391He's fucking real!
I have 10k rupees. I only have 2 0din. Should I roll until I get 3 Odin and build more vial stock. Or wait for next set for Lishenna?
>>532104403Rune tax
She'll never get buffed.
>>532102991is there anything this nigger class can't do?
>>532104490im just playing it because im too retarded for portal and the other deck, YES even sword
>>532104497everybody including the people who play it knows rune is broken
nobody downplays rune, but there isnt a single sword player that doesnt downplay
>>532104513are just not going to play until next set
Just go play solitaire if you’re playing un interactive decks ruining the fucking game
>Playing for 3 hours
>Win most of my games
>Grinded from ruby to diamond
>Chest still 3/5
Fk this event =_=
>>532104214Artifact that doesn't brick is like a 90-10 in their favor.
Stop playing for Masterwork and just spam betas and gammas.
>>532104224>>532104463The rush/bane samurai pisses me off too.
>let me put down a turn 2 ward to not get completely run over by sword's early game>oh wait, valse or the samaurai nuked it.
sword is the vtumor choice because its so braindead
>game starts
>no chest
I really just want to pass turns until I get a where I can get a chest, this is so fucking pointless
>>532104654has chest event started yet?
>>532104615In a sane world it should be 5 wins. Sometimes I think that there should be government regulations where game developers and CEOs get chained to a desk and need to complete their own game content before being allowed to eat.
>>532104625The best part about samurai is that because of princess drawing a 0-cost bane, not even a huge ward will save you from Albert's 12 damage now
reminder that aggro sword will be the only good aggro after week 1, and it absolutely btfo aggro abyss in the 1v1
>do weekly key openings
>nothing but femboy socks
thanks kmr
>>532104625The samurai doesn't have Bane until turn 7. Stop playing fucking dingdong and it won't die
>>532104214No such a thing as a complete counter, but Artifact gives you the better chances, learn the match up.
>every other game a chest spawns
there fixed the event
cygames is full of drooling mouthbreathing retards who jack off to Daria and Marie and always make sure their decks are top tier
>>532104687Probably, but I cant play 5+ hours every day just to get the chests
I'm in B rank diamond and my opinion matters A LOT
New to Shadowverse. Do they ever buff cards? Or just nerfs?
>>532104337Healing doesn't even work against good players. It only counters shit like roach or massively greedy plays
>>532104353Very relaxing, I have my coffee and music, sometimes a movie/anime on the other monitor. My opponent ropes sometimes but I usually don't notice or care
I'm still A3 but never dropped from diamond so it's fine
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>>532104546if you're too retarded for sword then you're too retarded for haven
>>532104725Yes, please play this deck without Yurius, Amelia, or Amalia.
t. Abyss main
>>532104738>he doesn't get bane until turn 7Make him a 1/1 and I'll care.
>>532102991How the fuck does this deck kill anyone?
i wanna play dirt rune so bad but i don't wanna craft those fucking sluts anne and grea
Are they really going to leave the x10 pack event broken? I would laugh if it wasn't kind of infuriating
>>532104810Super evolve odin twice
I refuse to play sword until they give Zirconis or Amelia leader
it would be cool to get something other than socks from the lobby chest for change..
>>532104849where does the other 6 damage come from?
>>532104687Stop licking kmr ass
>>532104737humiliation ritual
Why is Lymaga so much worse than Yurius despite only being 1pp cheaper?
>>532104843They gave you your 1 pack in the mail. Stop being greedy goy.
>>532104865Ok.
>give you silly glasses.
>>532104889>>532104810You're quite clueless aren't you
Dirt has a very strong early curve, it's better than sword's you can get a ton of face damage before evo
>>532104943Isn't cygames japanese
My Ho is missing for 6 games straight, please help find her
>>532104865I HATE their fucking rewards. Both the lobby chest and the dumb "rupies gallore" event.
>99.999% of the playerbase gets gamer socks and a pittance of vials>single digit numbers of players get 100 packs or eleventy billion rupies.
>>532104889early damage cause opp things you're a spellchud and tries to race you
>>532104993Demote to topaz and stay the fuck out of Diamond
>>532104916homolust superior
woman inferior
>>532105049give her "win the game" on 3rd crest revival
>>532104769It does, although the true counter is healing and board control, too.
Sword 99% only has six storm cards in the deck, Albert and Odin. Very predictable storm and not enough to OTK. They have to rely on chip damage. Norman particularly cucks over sword hard.
>>532104985Yes, but basically every nip gacha law is a direct result of cygames' kikery.
>>532105049sit her firmly on my penis
>>532104979I accept your concessions
>make alt for missions
>gets orchis and tittyania tickets immediately
stupid shit game
>>532105017and, to twist the knife in the wound, they get them multiple times while rest of us drown in socks
>>532105124I don't think most sword decks are running 3 albert.
fishcraft bros...he healed out of lethal range 3 times in a row but it still wasn't enough.
What alt wincons do you want to see?
WHERE ARE MY CHEST YOU STUPID FUCKS
>>532105225why did he age 40 years
>>532104725They're stomping me harder than midrange sword already.
>>532105049Choose 2:
>7pp>Aura>Auto-super evolve upon resummoning on top of storm.
>>532105269natural reaction from a sword player losing a game
>>532105225This is the guy who lost a game because he forgot about Valse's enhance btw
>>532105228>Shit deck vs shit deckNot something you should be proud of fellow dragon
>>532105097>crest revival>
>
>>532105219Albert is literally the single lego that every sword deck is playing at 3x.
>>532105228>dragon is now the fish and chicken deckNo matter what Forte has to eat all the eggs
>>532105124You're overlooking some very important details.
>while not outright storm damage, their ambush followers are often capable of surviving to swing face in most matchups.>they are not reliant upon storm damage to face to secure kills since they are dripping with so much card advantage and powerful evoless plays that their long game is only surpassed by spellboost pulling off their Satan+D-climb tricks.
Are the nips happy with the current meta?
>>532104495frogslop did not read, intentionally dodging image filters
>your barrier followers are useless because yay tanoshi XD
that fucking onion is broken
>>532105003I legit wonder what the fuck were they thinking making entire deck rely on one fucking card and the high pp cost you draw early are all shit
>>532105407The onion is cute though so it's fine.
>>532105394they only play meta so yes
>>532105309people makes missplay like that all the time bro
the best just make it less than average but that doesn't mean they don't
>>532105324>>532105219oh oops, I meant Odin. I'm pretty sure everyone runs 3 odin and maybe even 1 centurion as a 4th.
>>532105435nah, lynch that yellow faggot
>>532105313it's not like i only feast on ramp dragons.
face dragon beats rune and abyss too. only portal is a 100% loss, sword being 50/50.
>>532105440so why is this guy ruby while spicies shits on master diamond
>>532105407>Titania>Give fairy on hand (1pp)>Silver onion bitch>summon for free with rush and spellboostHow is this fucking fair?
>>532105431The deck was designed for players with gambling addiction.
>>532105407>using barrieryou're a shitter, you're going to die regardless. onion does basically nothing against good decks. in fact, I find myself crashing into the enemy follower for no useful damage at all just for the spellboost.
>>532104761>Do they ever buff cards?yes
How are people playing meta decks in beginner. I literally made an alt to escape this hell.
Why do sword players run that dogshit 7 pp spell? I remember Bloodcraft had something similar but it was half the cost and could go down to 1 pp in vengenance.
>>532105594>I remember Bloodcraft had something similar but it was half the cost and could go down to 1 pp in vengenance.Diabolic drain couldn't hit face. The reason tentacles see play is for lethal reach because they can hit face.
>>532105548>make an alt to noobstomp>you're the noob who gets stomped>>532105594you need reach to be able to kill people, rune especially. You basically automatically lose to rune if they're able to free dclimb you (your deck revolves around building a board while clearing theirs every turn), so you need to end before then.
i dont want to play but chests..
>5hours
>chest is still 3/5
Kill me now
>>532104761Only if you're on the pet class tier list.
Shadow always got buffs when it's the worst class.
Sword only got nerfs.
I think Haven got one buff.
Everything else was massive nerfs to portal cards and that one point where Forte was limited to 1 in Atomy Shadow and artifact portal meta.
>first match of the 2nd half of the tournament is a rune mirror
>>532105739which one you watching
>>532105732forest got instantly nerfed when one card was good
>>532105783https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk5cIxwSIk
>>532105783the one linked earlier
https://youtu.be/nEk5cIxwSIk
>>532105708You would have been done in 1 hour regardless of how shit your luck was if you were playing aggro abyss.
>>532105654Oh it does? I never see it used because there's never a point where sword got someone to 5 HP that a Cenataur or Albert couldn't finish the job.
>abyss is basically just aggro blood and midshadow
When are we getting different archetypes? I like midshadow, but basic bitch aggro blood always felt boring to me and I kind of want other blood decks.
>>532105732>Sword only got nerfs.They buffed Mars to give ladder 3 months of hero aggro aids before she rotated
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You have these off right? Or are you a pussy?
>>532105739there's going to be many rune mirrors, brother. Over half the players remaining are rune.
Why is fennie, an 8PP do nothing has the same 4/4 as AnneGrea who does billions thing
>>532105786>Introduce unlimited>1st time in a while forest has actually had a positive winrate>Immediately limit Aria to 1Never forget.
>>532105846>there's never a point where sword got someone to 5 HP that a Cenataur or Albert couldn't finish the job.Tentacles hit face through a board full of wards. They're more useful in some matchups than others.
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>>532105884isnt it a 2 deck bo3 format?
>>532105892Rune needs it bro
>>532105437Honestly Shadowverse has always been best played with the understanding that it's a sweaty game. Even Yugioh isn't so heavily oriented around competitive play
>>532105995It's 2 deck bo1, almost everyone brought rune, see
>>532100396
>>532105990Sex with BPD-chan.
>>532105990you play DirtCraft
>>532106026i wish goofy GPs and take two were already in, im getting kinda bored
>he doesn't have a full set 1 and 2 with vials to spare
Why are you guys so fucking poor?
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>5/5 chest
>some random fucking chest appeared out of no where
what
>>532105867Blood was deleted because it was a nightmare to design around. I'm sure we'll see wrath and avarice return as archetypes and probably some deck that's a very specifically tuned version of vengeance but it's safe to assume that the craft will forever be Shadow with the occasional Blood archetypes on the side
>>532106206Their spaghetti code fucked up and you can get infinite chests today.
>>532105956>They're more useful in some matchups than others.Using it to get out of Albert range in the mirror is super funny. There's literally nothing they can do after going all in the previous turn to clear the board and get you to sub 12.
>>532106082do I need 3 Annes and 3 DClimbs
>>532106026>Yugioh isn't so heavily oriented around competitive playI wouldn't say that, my enjoyment of the game went up by a lot when I switched from galaxy eyes to the meta version of blue eyes
Comboing for a minute just to get stopped by a single handtrap is painful and common if you play untiered decks
this poor fucking puppet player, what was he thinking playing this... I love puppets but you are masochistic bro...
>>532106082you dont use dclimb
you only use anne if you want to
>open crest
>50 vials
this is exactly what i'm playing this game for
>Other decks actually run out of cards
>Sword just keeps going and going AND GOING
Just look at their hands jesus FUCK
>>532106335>puppet has to play the 2/2 hand replace card because the only thing that matters is how many orchis you drawgrim deck
>>532106316Pure dirt still needs 3x A&G
>>532106263From the game that has
>shitty ass netcode for a fucking turn based game>graphical bugs in the lobby>broken triggers for the event missions>game crashes on splash graphical effects from cardsIt's not hard to believe that they'd also fuck this up
>>532106261thats random, its unfortunate I lost it because of a swordbab
puppet is just a dogshit deck
>>532106335the tier lists say puppets are s tier
>>532106206>>532106261I've only seen my 5 chests and that's it. God I hope this is true
What did we learn today /svg/?
I learned that all the decks are shit
They keep saying CHOU SHINKA.
>>532106503The only good matchup puppet has this meta is artifact and that's assuming they never see a single carnelia.
>>532106568I learned that sword players will never admit their deck is overpowered to shit even when presented with all the evidence.
>>532105708Chest is literally a scam.
BP points are nothing since you can easily reach lv 50 in a few weeks. And each chest is worth a whopping 1/5 of a pack most of the time.
Just wait until the daily missions reset.
the guy on the right looks like jap michael jackson
do the chests reset at a different time than dailies/weeklies?
>>532106678>Get free stuff for playing>thirdie calls it a scamYou people are mentally ill.
Salefa evolve damage works on the orange aura portal nigger thing???
>>532106317The difference is that you don't have to engage in Yugioh as a high tier competitive game, paper and digital both have casual support no matter how bad a particular meta is.
Shadowverse went a decade running almost exclusively on different formats of competitive play. Even if you got a lobby together and agreed to ban all the competitive cards in SV1 they don't really print party cards like other games do.
>>532106702lol you're right
>>532106736why wouldn't it
>>532106736That effect only protects against destruction effects, not damage. So it'll block bane or even a Medusa (ask me how I found that out...) but not a stormy blast or whatever.
>>532106736Retardbro... Read your cards.
>>532106775That might be because yugioh is over 25 years old.
>>532106702That IS Michael. Charon revived him with her sevo.
>>532106801>>532106820Good to know, so jannu should work too. I though it reduces damage from all effects to 0.
>>532106721Is 1/5 a pack worth the 5 hour investment?
Touch grass
>>532106316Anne might be optimal but dirt is totally playable without her, she's liable to get cut even as crazy as she is. Most lists exclude Kuon entirely.
>>532106873If it takes you that long to get a chest you are flat out bad at the game
What are the gm sleeves the portal player is using? DoV?
Is it worth crafting Olivias for abyss aggro?
>>532106935Not me I was replying to this
>>532105708
>>532107037Yes. She's useful outisde of it too
>>532107037No, you'll be dead before you even get to play Olivia. If you're really worried about aggro, put three Divine Thunders in.
>Chest appears
>Brick brick brick brick
This fucking game
>>532106873>investmentMy dude it's just a small bonus you get for playing. What the hell is this mental illness?
>coined prim
>op disconnected
wtf
>>532102991https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYIChlJYcTo
I'm watching the first hour of this video and he has lost to every spell rune so far. This nigga is selling snake oil.
>>532107194>If you lose a match where a chest appeared, the same chest will appear again in your next match.>>532107246people have been conceding a lot today, I think some people may concede non-chest matches very quickly
>>532107246>turn 1: coin Beryl>turn 2: play two 1pp followers>opp concedesThis shit's hilarious
>>532107205Then who gives a shit if you don't get 5/5. Don't force yourself to get 5 chests every day because your autistic OCD ass and stop complaining about not getting them all.
>queue a game
>lags in intro, hand is bricked and lose
>queue a game
>lags in intro, hand is bricked and lose
>queue a game
>dont lag in intro, can change hand, win
>>532107428Yeah that's basically what I'm saying?
3 games in a row I didn’t see Orchis in 20+ cards what the fuck is wrong with this game?
>>532107504You need to believe in the heart of the cards, bro. I didn't see any of my 3 Exellas in 4 games yesterday
Rune needs a 3pp cost card that says
Heal your leader for X, where X is your spellboost
Imagine the threads, imagine the hate.
>6 hp against portal's turn 7 with cerberus in hand
>doesn't heal out of orchis lethal
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Abyss missed lethal by playing olivia and mummy right? Cerb summons the 2/1 first right?
>>532107625>>532107638yes he threw by not playing cerb with extra pp
I don't know if I've ever seen this card not kill the entire enemy board.
Weird, an artifact mid abyss game didn't go to turn 16
>>532107504Just play rune bro
>>5321076387 + 1 (sevo +3) is already 10 damage cerb buff alone is enough
>intro: gets reasonable 2, 4, 5cost cards
>"NOOOOO, I NEED 1, 2, 3 AND A MORE OPTIMAL 2COST"
>*mulligans*
>rerolls into two 7costs and your single 10cost one-of
Yeah, it's definitely the game's fault that you got bricked.
>>532107504My Climbs are always on my bottom 30.
>>532107638he must have just forgetten about the eachtar effect cerb has
>>532107696I saw it happen twice today because shitters started running hybrid and want the 28 healing plus satan dclimb so they end up playing Kuon late
>>532107696It's a misleading card because you'll only see it come down when It's a good play. You are right though It's always 19+ AoE against a board of 2/3's.
>didn't d-climb
for what reason? when you're that low against artifact
>wallet abyss runs literally every class and neutral legendary possible except for Satan
i get being jewish but come the fuck on
These players are really bad? You are at 6,you die to Odin, you die to double ship. Fucking climb and heal, the portal player lost all reach after that.
>>53210786740% chance to win on spot with satan dclimb astaroth
>>532107867I'd just assume he used up all his heals seeing he has 11 cards left.
>>532107902dont think theres any entry requirements so its just shitter weekly
gonna wait for the pro tourney
>>532107867every runecel will try to save for satan even if they win lategame by default anyway
>>532107989Nothing more satisfying than destroying a rune on turn 14 as they sit on 1 super evo desperately waiting for Satan
uhh why does rune has more healing and wards now?
>>532107867He's playing to his outs. He knows artifact doesn't have lethal artifacts in hand and the odds of being able to employ double beta are very low. The artifact player in fact, didn't have it but top decked it. If he dshifts there, he gives the artifact player enough turns to improve their odds of drawing lethal. Holding it one turn makes it likely that he wins.
In all likelihood he made the right call statistically but just lost regardless
>>532108082Stop crying, thirdie.
>>532108082kmr wrote down every way he lost as rune last set and created custom cards to fix those problems
>>532108082KMR got cucked by aggrochad, please understand
>>532096341>General full of people that don't play Abyss or understand card value completely shit the bed when it came to evaluating Abyss' new cardsNo shit
>more, and more games against aggro sword lately
bros is my only hope artifact?
>>532108139fuck your bloody mother
>>532108160>>532108145KMR mains Rune? That explains a lot.
>>532104865I wouldn't mind getting Zirconia's socks after she's had a day of training on a particularly hot day.
>>532105049Reduce her stats and make her a 4 drop. Haven needs a good 4 drop that isn't removal like Ironfist Priest and Ronavero.This would also pair nicely with Unholy Vessel. If her PP cost isn't reduced, she at least needs Rush as a base ability so you don't have to waste an Evo point on her. She is only viable to summon when your opponent hasn't gone wide with their followers.