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>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
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>Ace Combat 3: A New Translation
https://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK
>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net/
>New /aceg/ MEGA
https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm
>PA Twitter (JP)
https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES

>AC7:
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:
>put on an /aceg/ tag in your name before you boot the game
>no EML/QAAM/SASM
>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel

>Resources:
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The modding guide and material are in the open!
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Project Wingman:
>Store page
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Misc Stuff:
>/aceg/ Collage
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>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0
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https://www.strangerealpatches.com/
>Ostrich's Mods
https://superostrich.xyz/
>/aceg/ Assault Records
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>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY:
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>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ:
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>/aceg/ Permalink:
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Because it bears repeating:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ:
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...

>Is there any AC8 news yet?
No.

>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.

too ded

I remember when this used to be the most popular thread on this website. Now look at us.

STUPID FUCKING RETARDED SEA GOBLIN STOP DYING YOU FUCKING USELESS CUNT

>>532178996
We're just in the "slain" part of the Razgriz legend, buddy

Do you have any missions that you always do with one specific plane
For example in 5 I always do November City with the Typhoon and in X I always do Mt. Nevera with the MiG 1.44

>>532183217
Any mission with the X-02 so I can beat it easier

Pls hold my hand and tell me where and how to get that X360 emulator up and running plus an AC6 iso
I think it's finally time I play AC6

>>532186676
Scroll up.

whenever I read the word "cruise missile" I hear it in Ghost Eye's voice

not letting you save between fortress, 8492 and final option is diabolical

>>532186676
Guide's in the OP, Xenia is pretty much plug and play by this point. A picture of your planefu will be sufficient payment.

>>532183217
Got a bunch like that.

>>532189702
Save states buddy. Makes old games reasonable, instead of difficult just for the sake of it.

>>532178996
I don't believe you.

>>532189702
AC5 has a lot of dumb shit like that
the hangar being locked and you being forced to pilot the F-5E for the first like 6 missions even on NG+ is another one

>>532201257
especially since you need to pilot the other planes to unlock the variations
im 3 playthroughs in so far and i still have shit left to unlock

>>532201683
All I can say buddy is to not do playthroughs then. Just use free mission, it’s faster. Just be aware, occasionally it will change you back to normal difficulty. I don’t know what the trigger is, but I’ve noticed a couple times I was doing missions on hard expert and ace and I would start the mission with unlimited gun ammo. Sure enough I was back to normal.

>>532201257
>the hangar being locked and you being forced to pilot the F-5E for the first like 6 missions even on NG+ is another one
esp when all those intro missions are strictly air to air, yet the single SPW on the F-5 are dumb bombs

ace combat 5 was overdesigned, they tried to do too much, to give too much of an "experience" and the gameplay suffered in parts for it
which is why Zero is the most fun ps2 game, the gameplay isnt hindered by silly things

>>532204824
I’m too lazy to bring out my three thousand word analysis on 4 5 and Zero. For the record /aceg/ thought it was the most in depth deconstruction of the three games when I posted it almost 4 years ago.

Heck 5 even has wanna-be Harrison Ford, President Harling with his secretary Tommy, land the damn Air Force One, similar to the movie by the same name.. Air Force One..

5 is as tailored to American audiences as beer, football, hot dogs, rock and roll, and terminal levels of patriotism. It’s a great game but damn it has aged the worst out of the three.

>>532206086
>It’s a great game but damn it has aged the worst out of the three.
yes i agree
going back to the trilogy for the first time since playing them on ps2, i remembered ac5 being my fave, but it was the one that was the most of a slog to get through.
i thought 4 with its destruction missions would be the least fun, but it was a blast, especially the ace skins.


bring out your analysis feggit, i wanna read that shit

I HAVE SO FAR TO GO

everytime i shoot down a sr-71 i hold out hope that it unlocks it to pilot, but it never does

>>532206086
I remember there being an interview where they outright said "5 is an American blockbuster movie compared to 4 being a more artsy euro flick"

>>532206861
Let me turn my computer on and repost what I wrote. Because that’s literally what I said.

And I’ve never seen a single ace combat interview besides the live music they put on the YouTube channel.

Ace Combat Trilogy
an analysis

#4
To understand why 4 is the second best selling game in the series, we have to understand the enemy we have to understand where Namco was with the series at the end of 3. 3 did terrible in Japan and almost as bad in America. It did not get the attention from the arcade-style reputation that Ace Combat had in the first two games. This alienation of consumers post-3, led to Namco trying a drastic approach to restart the series. 4 exhibits serious attention to detail from its animation team, straightforward yet intricate open-ended story writing, and a creative approach designed to wrap up ALL the aspects of the game under one complete cover direction. Special care was taken to control pacing and make sure that knew where the game was going after every mission. No longer was Ace Combat just an arcade flight sim with cool music. 4 was a statement of the fit and finish that Namco was capable of. And it was a very serious game, more grounded than the fever dream mindfuck that was 3 JP.
4 is grounded in the way you can tell a story being just as important as the content of your story. It was cool, grown up, and reflective, aspirational, whimsical, and etheral, and serious. You felt like you were given a snapshot into the cool kids party growing up, and it was esoteric as all hell. And it was the first ace combat game with minimal jank. Retrospectively, its has aged well due to the quality of its writing, and lack of subliminal political messaging. (Other than the usual war is bad, which is understandable).

#5
the bastard middle child of the trilogy, 5 is like a well to do American couple that wants everything better with their second new hit game (Child). Better grades, better looks, better sales. what else? a crippling childhood that leads to poor results as an adult? you could even say it a was the second kid of a Japanese couple that put immense pressure on the joy their first kid brought to them.

>ace combat is turning me into a radical ideologue
what the hell

should i stop Reddit'ing now? or do we want Zero? Zero was a return to form for concise and COOL storytelling assisted by Yuri Lowenthal.

actually I'm gonna stop now because i got my facts wrong about the sales history of 5, it was 1.8m compared to 2.64m for 4 and 792k for Zero.

>>532223192
nagase...

gimme a mission where i get to go low orbit and shoot 8 LRAA at nagase

>>532213562
> Zero
> 792k
How did THAT happen?

>>532210954
I reckon AC04 sold so well because it was a launch title on the PS2, and a damn good looking one at that. You weren't going to find that kind of smoothness and vehicle model fidelity anywhere else on that console.

>>532225167
because it was bad
sorry that was bait. it probably has to do with being sold on the tail end of the PS2's lifespan (the part that wasn't artificially extended by yearly soccer games) and people moving to Xbox 360s and PS3s.

so wtf was his problem ?

>>532245282
Easily gaslit kissass.

>>532245282
Drank the entire pitcher of Belkan kool aid

>>532183217
Yes

>>532245282
Dude's definitely too young to have been in the 1995 war.

>>532210954
>To understand why 4 is the second best selling game in the series, we have to understand
That it was a PS2 launch title, simple as.
In terms of gameplay it's surpassed by everything that came after it, even the PSP one.

>AC6: fires of liberation
>AC6: fires of rubicon
was this really just a coincidence

so PA secretly admired Waffen SS..your response /aceg/ bros ?

https://youtu.be/BOTIIw76qiE?si=TeZz2lv6VlOuO0Ka
RIP Ozzy

>>532280593
Fuck you mean he's dead? Did I really hear Ozzy's dead from /aceg/?

>>532280986
>Did I really hear Ozzy's dead from /aceg/?
Yep, sorry

>>532280593
Now Bigger

>Did I really hear Ozzy's dead from /aceg/?
Not something I expected either

>>532280593
Now Bigger

>Did I really hear Ozzy's dead from /aceg/?
Not something I expected either

Mach 2 VTOL fighter bomber the XF-109 was a wild girl

how to you fix the black triangles on ground textures in ac6 on xenia?

>>532287760
There’s a line in the config file specifically for it

so where in the timeline you think 8 will take place ? closer to X or closer to 3 ?

>>532295457
its going to cover the first wars, when belka first used war planes

>>532295457
Not too close to 3, I don't want it to be full on sci-fi with fake planes.

>>532295457
Seeing how the mainline games are set close to our current year and by how much time development is taking I am thinking closer to 3, get ready for the F-22C as the cover plane.

I don't know what the strangereal equivalent to africa/middle east/south east asia is, but they should make a game set in one of those

>>532295457
It'll be set one to two years past real world year. Game will be set in either 2027 or 2028

>>532211842
Getting your worldview from videogames is cringe. Doubly so if you're past teenage years.

>>532298496
I would love it if it also meant really low tech and proper indian sirs voice acting and writing

>>532297513
> get ready for the F-22C as the cover plane
Nah the cover plane will be F-35 with a pair of these behind her.

>>532297513
>you play as dision before the event that digitalise him

>mission accomplished
>SIKE HERE'S A MISSILE UP YOUR ASS WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OVER AND YOU WERE SAFE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>532308358
You should know by now your never safe until the mission accomplished box appears. As those YF-23's will snipe your ass with out warning

>>532309728
>until the mission accomplished box appears
It did.

>>532311382
Something ain't right that line appears and goes away before the mission is officially over.

>>532308358
That mission is infamous for the enemies never stop being aggroed even after the missiobn accomplished. Most lkely a bug that PA forgot or just didn't feel like fixing.

>>532314968
I'll check on that one as well as I want to check on another bug too and see if they fixed it for the PS4 version or just cleaned up the game visually and called it a day.

Its a shame the letters are so blurry I know what it should say but still.

>Notices Chopper is flying underwater
>Checks out replay to see him flying underwater
>Replay won't let you select Chopper when he isn't above ground err water

In an alternative universe this is a major component of an air force

>>532336409
“Alternate” universe?

>>532303556
>Getting your worldview from videogames is cringe. Doubly so if you're past teenage years.
where should one be getting their worldview from?

>>532342887
From me, of course.

>>532351664
jeez, lack of ac8 news has got /aceg/ down real bad if this is the oc being put out

>>532317913
Guess Ostrich's got his next project ready.

>>532351664
I chuckled.

>>532342887
I dunno, maybe the real world news or geopolitics podcasts instead of fictional media that is intentionally presenting things overdramatically and overemotionally. The aspects of videogames and other fictional media that make them entertaining make them often bad for actually learning or informed about things. But babymen like you growing up on videogames as their political compass do explain how the politics sphere is increasingly immature.

>>532295457
It's strange how Spiridus looks like an overgrown X-49

Strange how the missing mouth removed the MiG feel out of this plane

>>532353881
Hmm lets ask

Hey Ostrich you here? What about it wanna clean up the lettering and markings on mook units?

We should do 2000 or 2250 next shootout. Mix it up a little.

>>532379627
Would that count as an interception? Or a kamikaze run?

>>532387589
super hornet looks soulless as fuck
AC8 better have a legacy F-18

>>532387589
Underwing drones does not bode too well

I wonder if mechs will ever make an appearance if we go beyond AC3 in the timeline

>>532304206
They'll probably make it a twist that you're playing as Dision while he was still alive.

>>532304206
>>532400341
inb4 you get to the final mission in 8 and get hit with ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE

>>532400341
considering dision get killed and become a computer program in 2030 , they may at least make us fly alongside him

>>532404479
I am curious as to how was Dision like as a person while he was alive. Who the hell knows, he could be the protagonist of the next game's buddy or something like that.

>>532404686
he's actually active as a General Resource pilot during AC7 iirc (he joined in 2018, a year before)

>>532404686
While all of 3 needs to be taken with a grain of salt given Simon's biases, it's interesting that Dision was the type of person who could plausibly launch a global terrorist organization to upend the entire status quo. Even if the real Dision wouldn't be a transhumanist on account of not being sublimated, there was likely something there in his character that suggested dissatisfaction over the way world events were unfolding.

>>532405272
afaik the Payton Dispute (the terrorist attack carried out by Dision's dead-copy that escalated the Neucom-GR conflict) happened in the "real world" before the simulation

>>532404975
There will probably be a mission or two that would even grab the attention of General Resource, and to an extent, Dision. After all, GR has been slowly gathering enough strength over the course of decades to become the power it was during AC3.

>>532256928
Took me a bit to figure out what I’m looking at

you think a pilot ever like fat fingered it

>>532388390
We'll slap on some CFT on and it'll be fine.

>>532390408
Why? Those are Malebolge's you can't tell me you don't want to unleash those drones on your enemies

>>532400225
>He doesn't know

>>532404479
>Implying the game will take place on USEA once again.
To be fair we still don't know if the megacorps just run the continent or the entire world. It all comes down to how cyberpunk Kono is feeling for 8 and beyond for the answer.

>>532428429
was General ressource only operating in USEA at the time of 7 ? they are an anti-piracy company right now so i guess they would get international contract to protect shipping lanes

>>532432002
No they are an international company the twins also worked for them as well. I just don't see how a protect shipping mission could fit into the game unless its just mission 1 or something. I don't expect to see Dision in the game.
Sure you could just have your nation hire him and some others as merc's for the war but then it feels like they are just shoehorning him in because look AC3 reference. I expect better of PA than to do something like that.

Climb higher higher to reach that light

>>532436184
either can appear during a naval mission or get a discreet mention like how in Last hope Yoko was in Schroeder plane for like one line of dialogue

>>532442757
shame they mistranslated that

>>532442757
>discreet mention
I didn't think about doing that that would be the best way.
Hmm you could go more during a cut scene. For reasons related to story plotline you see a supply convoy arriving in port. The camera is focused on the ships but you can still see Dison's squad flying in the shot.
Whatever plane he flew then you can unlock his custom skin in the usual means beat certain difficulty with all S to unlock.

Money well spent

>>532428429
AC3 to its credit does avoid the cliche retro80s(tm) "megacorps running the world as outright nationstate replacements", and more a top down fusion of public and private governance, something the west is gradually experiencing first hand IRL.

>>532459181
Mave-chan from the parodic mini OVA episode "Fighting Fairy Girl Rescue Me Mave-chan". It somehow got an official english release, I own it on DVD.

I just finished Project Wingman, and wow.

I still have yet to touch upon the DLC though, but if it's anything like the main game, I don't want to play it.

>>532473365
What didn't you like about it?

>>532474889
Honestly? Pretty much everything with the narrative. I feel disconnected with most parts of it. I didn't like the wingmen you get, Prez is annoying as shit and Galaxy sounds like he's trying too hard. By the time the game ended, I was praying all of Sicario was dead. Apparently that's not the case though, I think the Mercenary ending actually gives you a hint like it's a Halo legendary ending, that they're alive which sucked.

And then there's the stupid bullshit about The Deal, some unseen macguffin that's supposed to be intriguing but it appeared way too late in the game for me to care, that sprung Sicario into literal ISIS for Cascadia. Why keep it unseen? I thought I'm supposed to be Monarch; the merc with the most kill marks on the nose. Don't I have the right to know?

I do like the world they've built though, and by extension its aesthetics. But then I realized they were just ripping off Black Powder Red Earth (Sicario and Ronin being rip-offs of Cold Harbor and Ember respectively) and added planes. This is even more apparent when you heard the producer for PW wanted its setting to expand into a multi-media project with an FPS title around Ronin, which is something BPRE have tried to do (and hilariously failed.)

This game's story is so shit it just makes me want to cheer for the Feds. These are just some of my (admittedly disorganized) thoughts about it and I wish I could say more, but my mind feels like it would explode if I think about this shitty game any further. If I could sum PW up in a sentence, I think it would be "Ace Combat if it was less charming and written by an r/NCD frequenter."

>>532206086
I think 5 aged the best.
Because of the Grey Men and how dug into the entire military industrial complex they are. The only mission that could've been done better is Final Option. Instead of that stupid escape scene, it should have been them being attacked by the 8492nd during a routine sortie. Pops and Snow would've tipped them off and about it, and gave them coordinates to activate their ejection seats. That whole bullshit about Chopper dying in the stadium would be retconned, and he would die during this encounter.

>>532476586
Not that anon, but it feels like you're missing the point of a J. J. Abrams Lost-Style mystery box.
>Black Powder Red Earth
Never heard of that before. Looks like a comic with a well acclaimed tactics game?

>>532245282
Belka Youth

>>532481635
I think Final Option is a fine idea in spirit, it's just that there's no challenge. Should have set it in a ravine so you at least had to avoid crashing into cliffs instead of flying around in a wide open field for 90% of the mission.

>>532481980
Routine sortie in the same style as the first 2 missions, just having to properly escape in the fashion of Final Option wkth 8292nd in pursuit. Faking the deaths over specific coordinates so Wardog could be picked up by rescue squad. Tipped off by Pops and Snow.
Ravine battle is Ghosts of Razgriz mission. That mission was cool but the premise was fucking stupid. It's like being helped by artifa in submarines.

CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY

>>532482689
Puddle of Chud

>>532482325
Problem with a routine sortie is that you have weapons and it's a difficult sell to force you to run away when you have the option of just shooting everyone down instead. I guess 8492 (the mission) is already like that but at least with that the story can progress the same regardless of the outcome.

>>532481980
There is 'challenge', but 99% of it is:
>Pops slowing down without warning so you smack into him
>Pops saying you're too far away and making you fail despite clear visual contact because you avoided smacking into him and got too far ahead, or he's just flying too slow in general
But yeah, it's a mission that the game should only force you to play on first playthrough. There's literally nothing new you can do or improve upon in subsequent replays.

>>532476586
>cheer for the Feds
You might actually like the DLC then. Still understandable if you'd rather not.

>>532481749
>J. J. Abrams Lost-Style mystery box
I never quite liked that guy. Would make sense I wouldn't be enthusiastic about his hackery.

>>532486880
Yeah, at this point, I think I'd rather go play AC5 again.

>>532484490
Hamilton is the 2nd in command of the base, right? Can't he made up a reason for Wardog to not carry any weapons?

>>532489484
They let Wardog carry weapons during what was supposed to be a ceremonial flyover within allied territory, Hamilton would be hard pressed to find a reason for Wardog to sortie unarmed that wouldn't just lead to them being arrested on the ground, and then we land in the same situation as Final Option anyway.

>>532489484
Sabotage their weapons on the ground instead.
>get attacked by 8492nd
>try to retaliate
>missiles won't lock
>guns are jammed
> << Uhhh Blaze my weapons aren't working, what about yours? >>

>>532476586
>I do like the world they've built though, and by extension its aesthetics.
Really? I thought that was even worse than the middling story.

Its Temu-brand Ace Combat.
Also why I think there probably wont be a PW2 that might rectify these issues, it really only makes sense as a title conceptualized and started when AC was regarded as a dying PS2 era series with nothing but a terrible late stage PS3 exclusive online game on offer.

>>532466348
Good job buddyy someone else did know
>I own it on DVD
I have it on DVD as well
The anime bubble was still a couple of years from bursting in the US then it was just made at the right time.

>>532481749
>missing the point of a J. J. Abrams Lost-Style mystery box.
NTA, hes right. you spent all of the game in the POV of Monarch. everything you see and hear in the game are what Monarch sees and hears. but then comes the cutscene about The Deal and your perspective for some reason changes to a camera feed on base that shows nothing. either Monarch is being kept in the dark about this which makes no sense because why do Comic and Diplomat out of all people get to see it but Monarch doesn't when he's been carrying the entire cascadian war effort on his back? or Monarch canonically sees it but we don't which is just an inconsistent thing to do. the only reason i can think of why this happens is because FAN wanted to put a sequelbait in the form of The Deal but he didnt know what he wanted it to be until the game came out, and he had to put it in the final parts of the game to avoid rewriting it entirely. either way, it just goes to show that FAN cannot write for shit.

a point of something is rendered irrelevant if that "something" is executed terribly. and you mentioning JJ Abrams and his stupid ass writing workaround isn't really helping

>>532481749
>missing the point of a J. J. Abrams Lost-Style mystery box.
hes right. you spent all of the game in the POV of Monarch. everything you see and hear in the game are what Monarch sees and hears. but then comes the cutscene about The Deal and your perspective for some reason changes to a camera feed on base that shows nothing. either Monarch is being kept in the dark about this which makes no sense because why do Comic and Diplomat out of all people get to see it but Monarch doesn't when he's been carrying the entire cascadian war effort on his back? or Monarch canonically sees it but we don't which is just an inconsistent thing to do. the only reason i can think of why this happens is because FAN wanted to put a sequelbait in the form of The Deal but he didnt know what he wanted it to be until the game came out, and he had to put it in the final parts of the game to avoid rewriting it entirely. either way, it just goes to show that FAN cannot write for shit.

a point of something is rendered irrelevant if that "something" is executed terribly. and you mentioning JJ Abrams and his stupid ass writing workaround isn't really helping

>>532506601
>everything you see and hear in the game are what Monarch sees and hears
I mean that's not true though. The in game Files that open up after Wayback/after you complete the game, that show the real names of the rest of Hitman squadron/Monarch's operational record record are proof enough, unless you think Monarch basically shut their senses in between missions + mission briefings and their entire concept of self outside of that just four sorties.
>a point of something is rendered irrelevant if that "something" is executed terribly. and you mentioning JJ Abrams and his stupid ass writing workaround isn't really helping
People loved Lost back in the day tho

>>532507346
>Monarch's operational record record are proof enough
proof of what? that Monarch's a fully fleshed out character whose existence is separate from the player's? Monarch's operational record, as it stands, is nothing more than a collection of events with cool sounding names that serves a single purpose: to show that Monarch is a pilot with a good amount of experience under his belt. at the end of the day, Monarch is a self-insert; he is you. throughout the duration of the game's story, from Black Flag up to Kings, everything he sees and hears should be what you hear and see.

in Half-Life 1's introduction level, Gordon Freeman is shown to be a 27-year old scientist who graduated from MIT with PhD in theoretical physics. does this make him a fully fleshed out character? no, because it's just some bullet points that let you picture a very vague background about the person you play as.

>>532507036
>>532507346
J.J. Abrams' writing (with some exceptions) suffers from the pitfall of prioritizing hype moments and aura, coming up with cool scenes first and then linking them loosely with a middling plot to produce a flashy story of little substance beneath the surface level. Most fanfic has the same problem, and so does PW.

>"A treaty signing on the day of the Coup ?"
A treaty signing has been stagged in USEA allied sector NAP2700. After a long history of heated tensions , the nations of USEA fought each other to not face the rising threat of two superpowers , however in oposition of their effort a group of southern nations ploted to join the Osean federation , the Northern and Western nations strongly protested the movement , but a military coup was already extended to the southern leaders.
on the day of the coup with the Osean Federation , fearing the lost of mining rights and invasive osean military presence , Democratic Extremists organised a large scale Treaty Signing simultaneously across the continent.
their power spread rapidly with merciless signing against the allies forces in all regions. The Usean allied forces hope'd to quell the conflict in the early stage but have been forced to retreat from all signings , they feared that defeat was just a matter of time.
However in response to the rebels action , Allied Headquarter has initiated "Operation Signing Honor" you have been chosen as a member of Special Fighter Squadron Scarface , there are already civilian casualties and the allied forces cant idly sit by , quickly defeat the rebel forces , Scarface squadron..SIGN OUT

What are the most common hacks used on AC7 multiplayer ?

Who would win in a fight?

A fully loaded F-22 Raptor armed with the most modern weapon systems and piloted by the best pilot in the western world
Or
A Cessna-172 flown by an angry drunk man armed with an AR-15 with a cool looking red dot sight

>>532532445
depend if the Cessna is flown by a singularity

>>532534376
This, how much of a mute psychopath is the angry drunk man?

>>532535473
When stores ask him if he'd like to round up to donate to charity, he rounds down.

Gripen-chan lost her virginity
https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2025/07/24/royal-thai-air-forces-gripen-fighter-jets-bombed-cambodia/

>>532536893
Was this the plane's actual first use in combat?

>>532538072
Yeah she never got a chance to go bomb sand people like everyone else.

ACE him

<>

>>532561705
>Keith Bryan
>Yellow 4
>Swordsman
>Skald
>Wiseman
>Sorcerer 1
>Doug Robinson
>Edgar Grint
>Frederick Burford
think i got them all

>>532562519
How many of them are the same person?

>>532562519
>think i got them all
Almost

is it possible to have a cooler name than abyssal dision

>>532564245
its sound so cartoonishly evil compared to all the other name in strangereal , like who the fuck would name their kid abyssal ?

>>532564719
a Belkan probably would

trying the psp games out for the first time
joint assault is hot dogshit, X skys of deception is dope

>>532564245
i bet he got called abysmal dision a lot in school

>>532566714
You did grab the HD texture packs & the font pack right?

>>532567324
yep, downloaded after first mission

>>532567573
Good makes it more fun and if you didn't see them Top Gun skins were also made for the Hornet

>>532568564
Then I tested out some a while back if you see any skins in JA you like as that game has 6 skins per plane instead of 4 you like you can use them in X with no issue at all.

>>532568823
Also skins that are for another plane will work(ish) on a completely different plane. It will look a little strange depending on which planes you mix skins with hence the workish part.

And while JA is bad no question its still worth a single run if nothing else.

One of the Viper's painted up like a Flanker is currently in the air. He's playing with a Mirage F1

Funny little plane

>>532549521
> It's B variant but attached to the catapult?
>>532528534
10 years too late to be proud of having a missile with a man in it

>>532574784
Close enough the B's do take off from ski ramps and from LHD without catapults
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNgIc_LMoA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhilDBMHxjs

I hope the 35s in 8 are a fair bit more weathered.

>>532586513
Jeez, at that point they might as well go back to painting gaudy squadron schemes on them again. Screw grey.

>>532586513
Kek
Tell the Lightnings they're too late to participate in Desert Storm

>>532590101
>>532592071
Old salty sailors.

>>532586513
What happened to them?

>>532566714
I played them in short succession on a PSP 3000. Without knowing any better, I would've labelled Skies of Deception as the newer game, but it predates Joint Assault by four years.

>>532605475
ACX is a fantastic display of the PSP's capabilities, it's basically just a PS2 game

yellow4 was my first videogamecrush

I feel the need, the need for sneed

>>532598959
Americans forgot the reason why they keep their stealth planes in dry land and not somewhere like Miami Beach.
Coating is sensitive to seawater

>>532607329
Good taste.

>>532614759
Greeting from Hawaii

Besides this is a technical problem that can be addressed and fixed.

S. Korean bolt on glide bomb kit for Mk.82

>>532628445
Now what does it say?

J-35 as AC8 experimental enemi squadron

>>532633827
That is not a J-35

https://x.com/kazutoki/status/1948745159077724300
Kono talking about some mysterious game tech that used to be troublesome but now works well.

>>532633953
ah shit right its the J-36 this one

>>532634284
Just a genuinely cool looking design, I do hope we get it in 8

>>532634127
Clouds have been 100% optimized?

>>532634783
Its a Dorito with a 3rd engine doesn't really do much for me. Besides that is a bomber you wouldn't be able to fly it.
IF Kono adds Chinese planes I would only expect J-20 maybe J-10 as well just to have a low and high end ones.

>>532635825
>Besides that is a bomber you wouldn't be able to fly it.
Just going off of size it seems to be more of a long range strike aircraft like the Strike Eagle or Fullback.

>>532636093
Its bigger than a J-20 which is a rather large plane herself. Yeah its not a bomber in the traditional sense like a B-1 or in China case an H-6. It does the modern role get in lob a couple of cruise missiles and get out. And I'm sure China will be using it for drone operations as well. Not really fitting for a playable unit. It kind of the same of say we got that Cold War AC and then wonder why the B-58 & B-66 wasn't playable.

If you want a Chinese plane then why not the actual new fighter?

>>532637078
> Bomber but not like the Badger
So a tactical bomber?

>>532637078
niggas in here are constantly asking for the aardvark and su24 tho

>>532637646
tactical, light yeah those kinds of bombers that we use to have.

>>532638051
Yeah but at least in the 111 case she had a gun was tested to carry sidewinders while it was set up to use Sparrows just never equipped them and the proposed Navy version was going to equip Phoenix. The Su-24 also has a gun and carried air to air missiles.

Yeah I know starting to fall into the whole drone/missile problem nitpick but it comes down to how people see things. People see the J-36 as a missile truck/drone control plane not a fighter bomber type.

>>532638557
The B-58 isn't exactly "light" or "tactical". The Thud and Vark are better examples.

>>532640197
>Yeah but at least in the 111 case she had a gun was tested to carry sidewinders while it was set up to use Sparrows just never equipped them and the proposed Navy version was going to equip Phoenix. The Su-24 also has a gun and carried air to air missiles.
I mean, the Nighthawk never had a gun and thats still a semi-regular roster pick for AC...same with the S/MTD.
They can always BS a gun on a plane without one.

>>532640538
I know I was thinking more B-66 being a light bomber but for some reason I posted a B-58 my mind just sort of shunts it in that group due to its small (nuclear)payload and it being replaced with FB-111 doesn't help.
Dropping a pair of nukes on Soviet positions is a perfectly good role of tactical bombing from a Cold War mindset afterall.

>>532640539
True but people also thought it was a proper fighter for a long time no matter how much the AF said no it ain't.
Like I said a lot of it comes down to how people view things
>same with the S/MTD
Yes and no when you remember the original version was just a modified preproduction F-15B which carried everything

>>532643729
>Like I said a lot of it comes down to how people view things
lots of people are cretins who think something being a flying wing=strategic bomber

>>532645114
Tbf, flying wing = bomber is not without precedent.
YB-49, Ho 229, B-2, the more famous flying wings were configured as a bomber
Strategic though...

>join room
>immediately kicked
Fuck yourself, I guess

Nothing better than running into another buddy in the wild.

Handful of Cope

>>532643729
The Hustler had a medium to large nuclear payload of 1 W39/B53, or 4 B43s/B61s. It was also exclusively operated by SAC, so it wouldn't have been used in a tactical role either. Nuking battlefield positions would have been the domain of smaller contemporary aircraft such as the F-84F. It's true that the F-111 was supposed to replace it, but the specific variant proposed for its role (FB-111A) was an enlarged version tailored to the strategic bombing role. The B-58 itself was also intended to replace the B-47, which was also a long-range strategic bomber meant to nuke Soviet cities.

>>532308358
>>532315436
Now that I had a chance I went and checked the PS4 version
First Choppers gear down bug still exist on the defend Sand Island mission
Second Belkan YF-23's still attack you after the mission complete box appears

They didn't fix any minor bugs in the PS4 port they just upscaled it, cleaned it up and called it done.

>See somewhat interesting indie flight shooter
>FAN is involved
Did that shit-Midas decided to kill an already niche genre?
That's like two games already.

>>532670738
Fucker has too many fingers in too many goddam pies. Probably part of why he can't ever get anything done in a reasonable timeframe.

>>532686186
>Probably part of why he can't ever get anything done in a reasonable timeframe.
thats fine by me!

>>532687823
>Greece, Turkey, and Iran (lmao) still using the Phantom
Ngl pretty based

>>532691605
>Iran (lmao) still using the Phantom
I think Israel took care of that recently

>>532697889
The Temu-35

>>532698715
F-35's hapa half sister on Ozempic.

>>532691605
Why haven't Iran copied Phantom and Tomcat? It's old tech

>>532701512
Funding terrorists across the ME for decades isn't cheap. They did copy the F-5 and gave it a 2nd tail fin. I think they built like a dozen might have one or two left that aren't piles of slag now.

>>532701512
They did build some weird F-5 derivatives with canted stabilizers and nobody sane wants to copy the F-14

>>532701512
They spent all of their money on nuclear programs and ballistic missiles.

>>532702251
>sane wants to copy the F-14
Yes only America is insane enough to make it work plus we used a little bit of good old fashion cajun voodoo as a safety measure.

>weird F-5 derivatives
Yes this the Saeqeh
While the full on F-5 clone is called Kowsar

><>
><>
never fucking ride in a Osprey in strangereal if you have any importance

>>532705674
Not much of a navy to command if he had lived anyway. Maybe it's for the best.

>>532705757
Anchorhead with all the officers killed in osprey and the ship sunks probably was more crippling than any of the erusean navy attack mobius did during the continental war
no fucking wonder its mostly small boats protecting Farbanti when you get there

>>532705674
>never fucking ride in a Osprey
is a better sentence

>>532706132
true , thing even IRL is a flying coffin

>>532705674
>never fucking ride in a Osprey in strangereal if you have any importance

This is very true
AC3 Nemo kills the UPEO commander trying to escape in one simulation yes but well count it
AC4 Mobius 1 kills the feeling command staff
AC7 Trigger can kill up to 8 important people in them

I know I'm not the only one who has played DLC 2 so much I read that line in the voice of the guy that says it.

>>532706306
important officials need to learn also to not leave a battle area with a helicopter or osprey when ennemy ace squadrons are fighting just above them

>>532706306
>AC4 Mobius 1 kills the feeling command staff
Does he? I thought they just crashed while he was fighting the Yellows.

>>532709032
No they don't crash they run if you don't shoot them down. They become targets you can shoot down in the last ~minute of the mission before the Yellows arrive. They will take off and head in the direction you spawn from. If you don't get them before the mission update happens you can still shoot them down but they lack target boxes at this point. But they will still count as kills at the end of mission if you get them after the update.

I use F-22 a lot on that mission so what I like to do is save a PGM and fly over as soon as they become targets dropping it in the center of the group and it kills them even if they are in the air. As the game counts PGM's as UGBL in damage range

>the fact we almost got this
really wonder how that would have affected the rest of the serie doing strangereal universe spin offs that arent in planes

>>532711434
i wouldn't have minded getting spinoffs that expand Strangereal as a setting

>>532711434
Maybe now that PA is a legit studio they can do spinoffs like these.

>>532715573
If PA is such a real studio then why haven't they released any games?

>>532715753
AAA studio, pls wakarimasu. 10 years dev time per game at least.

Usea continent is the "Middle East" of Strangereal with the amount of wars they have in such short time period

>>532716192
Eruseans will tell you that the continent would have been fine if it wasnt for ulysses , but we know they lie

>>532715468
well if i may propose one...

>>532717641
It ends with a what-if where Trigger missile miss its mark and the nuclear strike on Oured happens

>>532718657
>game turn into a ressource management game for 2 missions as you survive 2 years at the bottom of the sea

>me guarding the Cape Rainy canyon on September 16, 2019
>"man this song is fire"

>>532730852
why is he listening to music in the kitchen

>>532737320
He's making Pizza.

>>532698715
Tμ-35

>>532624215
>>532694140
>>532728389
>>532741001
Doesn't exist

Tomorrow is the 27th anyone going to play Faceless Soldier? 6 years to the day it happened?

>>532756667
Why F-35C has its gun on the outside? I can understand F-35B full of stuff for STOVL but C variant is bigger

>>532758561
The Navy opted out of it themselves. I've heard the space that's usually reserved for the gun is filled with a larger fuel tank. There's also the weight problem. Carrier based aircraft have weight limitations for the Catapult shoot and Barrier recovery. Dragging around the weight of internal gun wouldn't have much use in this day and age

Can anyone help me with Air Combat/ AC1? I'm trying to do mission 5 (Pipeline Destruction) and I'm at a loss for sam sites. Is the only way to take them out is to full speed boom and zoom? And what are the "good planes"? They all feel very difficult to maneuver.

>>532767519
>Is the only way to take them out is to full speed boom and zoom
Yes
As soon as you fire pull up fast the missile won't track but you'll still hear and see the warning.

*Unless it decides to turn into a QAAM that will chase you for the entire mission and always flying around you in circles until it hits you or you finish the level which ever comes first note this only happens on hard

>good plane
For that mission F-15 is more than enough. If you don't have it then F-14 works fine.

>>532768216
Do you have tips for AA guns too? That worked on the SAMs but I'm still getting clipped by the guns. Or is that just unavoidable?

Shootout in two hours?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZorA99-fnc
I havent played ac7 in a long ass time, what is that part at 0:14 with the green energy ball thingies? is it from the dlc?

>>532777197
>is it from the dlc?
Yes, the last DLC mission to be exact.

>>532769089
Yeah do the same as SAMs but instead of pulling straight up you want to pull up and turn at the same time. It won't work 100% of the time but it drops AA hit rate down to like 10%
You have a more room for error here like you can fire and turn before you pass over the gun or pull up and turn after you fly over the gun.
Also a few of the AA guns that sit on something can't point guns down so you can fly low & shoot them at any speed and they can't hit you. But again that only works on the very very few AA guns they placed higher up.

>>532781662
thank you sir

I'll be 15 minutes late, buddies

ANTAAAAAAAARES

>>532787531
Man I forgot how dumb these planes were.

>>532788187
>turn at 90 degree angles and shoot your missiles down with a backward machinegun
<>

The room is up, buddies! Come on in!

>>532788187
Silly plane

>>532787531
>Executes four-dimensional maneuvering
><>
>Shoots (You) down

>>532789262
>I knew saving this replay would come in handy one day.

Hey fuck you and your four-dimensional maneuvering
Love Antares

>>532635825
We have no idea to its actual capabilities yet and we've had fighter bombers with a heavy emphasis on the latter part of the plane (FB-22 and so on)
We also got planes like the Fregata that are almost entirely bombers.
Genuinely what are you even trying to point out here, this isn't even with pointing to ACI/AH having playable (entirely) bombers

>>532794443
>Genuinely what are you even trying to point out here
That is what I want to ask you your not really making sense with that post
Are you asking why I think its a bomber/missile truck
Are you asking why I think it won't be in the game?

And that's a wrap for the night! Thanks to the buddies that came.

Hey there, buddies. /vg/ is playing in the summer 4chan cup right now, and our boy Sky Eye is playing as their goalkeeper, for any who'd wanna watch. https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>>532798591
Oh hell yeah.

>>532796443
What I'm telling you is, if it's only a bomb truck, it has valid reasons to be in the game, if it can carry missiles, it has 0 reasons to not be in the game.

>>532799482
>it has 0 reasons to not be in the game.
Does it? Lets see
>Japan doesn't exactly like China so they could have pressure from the suits to not put them in as it could be received very negatively in Japan
>China throws its usual 3 year old temper tantrum over your using our planes in the villain role. The usual kinds of petty shit they whine about all the time.
>Outside of a very small subset of players no one is really demanding to have them added in
Finally and the most important reason of them all as it applies to every single one of the games to why isn't Plane X or Plane Y in the game
>Because they didn't want to put it in that's why

>>532779824
Huh
Guess I never finished the DLC then

>>532787531
>>532788187
Everything about X2 was utter dildos

>>532814725
Except for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1CVbW9r6g

>>532814102
Kono tweeted that a certain Chinese aircraft manufacturer approached PA about featuring their products in a future title. This about a month after 7 launched IIRC.
I doubt geopolitical considerations actually matter much considering the white elephant of Russian aircraft making up half the roster of any AC game ever, despite the Russian Federation also having rough political relations with Japan.

>>532814975
Yeah I know we posted those same tweets here. It was almost a year after the game was out the DLC missions were being released. But that doesn't mean anything beyond hey we want in too. Not ok I'm adding them more a wow I'm popular people are asking me to put them in the game. Hell the USAF demo team even sent Kono a tweet not long after saying we wanna do the game cover image for you.

>Russia
Who has been the villain in western media & culture longer than anyone on 4chan has been alive. The Russian's have been playing the bad guys in western media since the early 1950's Kind of went along nicely with that whole Cold War thing we had going just as long. Not having Russian people & gear in the villain roles would be strange and bizarre to everyone. Plus they don't throw a fit when you cast them as the bad guys. China on the other hand has spent years throwing fits at the most dumbest pettiest of shit.

If your expecting a roster of Chinese planes as big the Russian set is your nuts. IF and I repeat IF Kono decides to add some at best you'll get J-20 and maybe J-10 for a low end option and that's it.

>>532787531
OREO

What was Kirk's fucking problem?

>>532820415
He was just saying FUCK BELKA

>>532820415
give him a break , he wasnt the same after chopper death

>>532816862
> J-10
Still good enough. He could've gone for the lol option by picking J-11 as a deadend branch for Flanker family tree

>>532823564
That could happen too Kono gives into his Flanker fetish and you get the Chinese NOTFlanker as your one Chinese plane in the game.

Now for the real important question will she make an appearance in 8?

>>532823564
J-11 already kind of has a cameo with that one ace livery in 7.

THOUGHTS ENDLESS IN FLIGHT

>>532828982
Umm ok

>>532828982
>merc team against all the superpowers
this is so going to have one of our co-pilot doing a pixy twist

>>532828982
>Humanity is gone.
>except they are not, they just decided to grow animal ears now.
At that point don't go with the "very far into the future" just say that it was like that since the beginning.
Anyway is it me or is this taking inspiration from GR's mercenary unit? it still feels weird that you are part of a "Merchant shipping company" but this image implies that all your missions are either a "go there, kill that armored battalion, return to your carrier" or "bomb this hospital" if you are going with that why not make it a regular PMC?
Is that a COFFIN F-18?

speaking of ace combat likes , whatever happened to that one where the trailer seem to be a story about a lone pilot going to drop a nuke on a capital ?

>>532828982
Big fuel tanks on the Caracal.
>>532827260
Isn't that a J-15?

>>532837121
Been "nearly ready" to release for 2 years now. Take that as you will.

>>532828982
What is it with flight nerds being furries

>>532828982
>a variety of battleships
So no carriers, destroyers, aegis carrying cruisers or submarines?

>>532840072
Please consult the chart

Honestly, More Pavli music is the only reason I want Dawn: Aerowar to come out at all.
https://youtu.be/B7srEO56W4w?si=VsaUKu5y3g42agYJ

Buddies, my autistic mecha/ace combat campaign is finally coming to fruition. First time DMing, in a system my other buddies wrote with me (for all purpose use).
one of those buddies is enthralled with my setting and is going out of his way to brush up on aerospace engineering for my campaign and I was emotionally moved

supposedly on pipeline assault theres a tunnel that was to be used by the trucks escaping that is still on the map but the trucks taking it itself was cut , any buddies know where it is on the map ? wanna see if i can tunnel run it

i hope kono give us the next game in either of these locations , ill even add all the countries that are east of belka on osea
im losing it if its Usea again

>>532851446
Isn't the east circled bit just part of Osea?

>>532854576
yeah and its fine , the Usean continent (where Erusea is located) is the fucking place i dont want to see for at least 2 games

>>532183217
In Project Wingman I always bring the CF-105 to Red Sea. Not really optimal for sinking the fleet or handling the VX-23's but it's fun, especially with unguided bombs.

>>532851446
>ace combat 8 intro start
>narrator start to talk about his country of Sotoa
>"5 years ago our military took in Erusean pilots"

>>532828982
Another air combat game that feels like I'm playing in someone's OC world rather than an actually compelling one. Seriously, this shit reeks of the dev's barely disguised fetish.

>>532859247
Well, least it ain't AC2 Edge

>>532827037
Adler? No chance.
Her only special thing is the SDBM and that missile is apparently so complicated even Strangereal don't know how to launch it

>>532828982
Why do they do this

Is that a desert paintjob on those F-35s or are they just rusted to shit

>>532874532
Stealth paint REALLY hates saltwater. I'm going to assume for the USN's sake that the brownness isn't affecting the actual radar returns all too much, hence why they're letting it happen.

>>532864683
The clusterfuck MS paint textbomb graphic design, cel shaded 3d graphics and dA tier kemono OCs is a giant turn off, why is it that none of these Ace Combat wannabe projects ever understand how the beautiful UI and art direction is a vital load bearing pillar in Ace Combat? Just peep the colours and HUD in this screenshot and compare it to what gets presented in that pic.

>>532828982
>Furry ocs
>Some bullshit realistic™ mechanics
>inspired by Ace Combat
>mechs for some fucking reason
>The same fucking setting as pw
>the world is gone but that doesn't matter because nothing changed except how some country names are spelled
This shit looks fucking terrible

>>532902934
The issue with most Ace Combat fans (videogame fans in general) is that very few of them have any artistic taste. Its just mashing together elements from things they like with zero thought.

>>532903712
That's usually what happens when you try to replicate something just because you're a fan of it the thing itself and not the things that make it work the way it does, like
>George Lucas likes samurai movies, hot rods and Flash Gordon and turns it into Star Wars
>every single person who makes Star Wars stuff after him just likes Star Wars

>>532183217
I love my Rafale because it's my favorite plane ever, no matter what. The mission at sea in AC7, where you have to take down a bridge, a sea platform, and a bunch of ships, is really fun in it. So, it's the one I always use. The same is true for the mission where you go to a city and have your first proper fight with the old man before the satellites go down.

>>532902934
agree , why cant peoples who want to make ace combat wannabe just go balls to the walls and make something like Delta Strike ?

>>532851446
>Ridge State is a set of islands
>Those Islands to the South West of Sota wouldn't take much to have them named Ridge State in 8

Yes I still want a Ridge Racer 8 along with the usual tracks they go global and race at famous locations all across Strangereal

>>532908072
>I love my Rafale

>>532910754
>nascar race at stonehenge as you drive around the guns on a circle track

I've been to the Intrepid and deleted all the photos I took before I remembered to post them here.

>>532912659
Image restore programs are a thing

>>532913202
It happened a year and a half ago, and I wrecked and threw away the phone I was using back then.

>>532908072
gripen, typhoon and mirage 2000 all are cooler than rafale

>>532183217
444 with a fishbed , so like that i feel like i really am at the bottom of the barrel and i got given a total piece of scrap as the newbie of the spare squadron

Has anyone ever beat any of the games using the cannon plane only for the entire run? I know it can get questionable in some games for what they really used for every mission.
>Looking at you X
While others like 5 are super easy to figure out F-5 then F-14A.

Finished replaying 5 and my opinion on it remains the same: despite the overly melodramatic story, despite all the cheese, despite the annoying meme missions, I fucking love this game.
Time to replay Zero now.

>>532937468
Finished as in one run? or 100%?

>>532934265
It's not too difficult to beat most of the games with your starter. Hell, I've watched a buddy bitchslap the Gauntlet's final boss with the Draken in ACZ.

>>532941014
No its not a hard challenge or anything its just a question of has anyone here done it or not?

>>532183217
I always bring a Raptor to destroy SOLG control system.
Mostly so I can see a catapult launched Raptor

>>532944396
Good taste

>>532939249
One run
I 100%d it years ago on my PS2, don't need to do it again

>>532934265
>Looking at you X
Well the "canon" plane in X would probably be F-4, which is lame and sad, and eventually F-22 since it's the cover plane

>>532946426
>calling the Phantom lame
you take that fucking back

>>532946426
(You)'re lame.

>>532946426
I didn't think his was listed honesty but after checking it does list the 3 planes Gryphus 1 uses
You start with F-4 and switch to the XFA-24 to take out Gleipnir then on to F-22 right after you liberate Griswall. What got me about it was his wingmen always change planes every couple of missions so it had me wondering how many times he changed planes.

what do you think oka nieba guy is doing during AC7
I hope he's ok

>>532949903
Enjoying retirement
I always figure the guy that talks to you is the most senior person on that AWACS

AC5's biggest sin is wasting that incredible theme song on such a lame final mission

>>532952052
5 is a lame ass game but that final mission is great albeit thoughever

What's with trans people and project wingman?

>>532937468
>Time to replay Zero now.
lmao you get the Wyvern after the first mission on second runs?

>>532955221
I had that happen on my first ever play through of 0 last month, it's because it's a save bonus for having 4 or 5 or something.

>>532955221
ye its from having a ac4 save
but regardless, you unlock the su37 terminator super early as well, so its not that crazy

>>532955319
Correct
If you have a AC4 save you get the X-02 early
if you have a A5 save you get the Falken with out having to get all 3 supreme medals

>>532955743
> supreme medals
Supreme soldier is peak autism, the other two are simple enough

>>532955743
>>532956134
What are supreme medals
Killing absolutely everything of every color, sparing absolutely everything yellow?

>>532956715
Yes
> Supreme Merc: Destroy everything yellow
> Supreme Knight: Spare everything yellow
> Supreme Soldier: Destroy exactly half of yellows

>>532956950
First and third sound very tedious and very autistic respectively, I'll pass

>>532956134
>Supreme soldier is peak autism
Back in PS2 days I did this rather often just to see if I could do it and then do it again later after the 2nd run of this it became easy as you learned how much to blowup with out thinking
Yes many of my planes had several Pac-mans over them

>>532957186
supreme merc is as trivial as supreme knight, you don't need to actually destroy every yellow target in the game, you can get the bar a good chunk of the way to the left in like the third or fourth mission and then you just keep it there.
just drop FAEBs onto directus and hoffnung and whatnot and you're good.
supreme soldier is, however, cancer since you have to perform a constant balancing act that is further complicated by enemies randomly turning yellow (neutralized) in-mission so you can't rely on the briefing's yellow tgt numbers to make things easier.

>>532958410
Or wait till you unlock Morgan and just nuke everything.

>>532952052
>>532952801
What's really silly is that Ofnir and Grabacr just self destruct if they're still alive when the SOLG arrives. Instead of, I dunno, trying to ambush/harass you while you shoot at the big defenceless and effectively stationary target.

>>532955221
AC04 save unlocks the Wyvern after the first mission.
AC5 save IIRC allows you to unlock the Falken with only regular Ace Style medals like the Morgan, instead of the Supreme medals.

>>532958410
I got really lucky with Supreme Soldier. After mission 14 I was just a nudge too far to the right, but then you can neutralize Espada 1 if you're on Soldier or Knight. So I blew him up, and that nudged me into dead centre. There are no yellow targets after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frBou9Tfvlo
what happened to this?

>>532960307
So we're just timelooping now, huh?

>>532959640
>Ofnir and Grabacr
That has always struck me as a Japan moment

>>532956950
Damn Mobius 1 really was a supreme merc in the end all things considered

>>532962854
He let all the non 4 Yellows escape at Stonehenge, and it's not mandatory to shoot down any of them in between then and Farbanti

Sometime ago when I was doing a run in JP audio I came across these lines couldn't figure out what triggers them till now. As this is the 2nd time I have ever got them and I see why you need to leave a plane or two alive to not end the first half of the mission until at least one of your ships passes under the bridge. Then uncommon lines appear if you listen closely to the radio chatter you'll hear the nurse and doctor talking shortly after you shoot down the first two A-6's but those lines will never be subbed its audio only and very easy to miss.

> ACZ has a fictional bomber
> It never appeared again
Why

>>532966994
I don't hear it

>>532976807
They were domestic Belkan bombers, and since Belka never participated as a conventional fighting force out of Zero there is no reason to include them, they were also considered obsolete designs by 1995.

> It's made of nose unit combined with a RAW-F wing unit for air superiority
The implications are clear. There's a successor to ADLER in the form of a new ground attack wing unit for Raven

>>532959640
>Ofnir and Grabacr just self destruct if they're still alive when the SOLG arrives.
what would even be a good in lore reason for them to do that ?

>>532961526
What does that mean?

>>532978995
iirc they became desperate and ended up using airframes on an unfinished state that didn't even have coatings, they fell apart as they were using them

>>532978995
Overconfidence in their belief that there's no way Razgriz can hope to destroy SOLG before it crashes down to Oured?

>>532984646
planes don't just disassemble in the air cause you forgot to paint them

>>532983417
Nordic name that just sounds cool maybe?

>>532983417
They decided that instead of fighting to the bitter end out of pure hate and spite like you would expect them too. They instead decided they have lost and chose honorable suicide over fighting to the bitter end.

>>533007701
honorable would be to keep fighting until they get themselves bested and killed in action

>>533007701
>>533008410
Personally, I think they lost their honor when they chose to colony drop a capital city

>>532910754
>mission bring you above ridge state
>one of the friendly pilot is non other than AC2/4 Nagase having hijack a jet to protect the place her sister live in

>>533008410
Yes it would be that's why I said Japan moment
>Failed at everything
>Couldn't stop Razgriz in the end
>Must reclaim honor by killing self
That whole thing always felt rather stupid to me

>>533009472
would have made more sense if :
>they killed themselves if still alive and you failed to destroy the SOLG , as they know their revenge is achieved and they now served their purpose
or
>they still alive when you destroy the SOLG and so kill themselves as they dont have any way anymore to take revenge on Osea

>>533009713
Yeah those answers would feel far less dumb than what we get.

Or we could just skio the whole self destruct part and go
>Failed to take out SOLG
>They are flying over the city laughing and cheering at the success of the plan.

>You shoot down SOLG but not all of them
>They fly off yelling I'll get you next time Osea
Yes Saturday morning villain line I know but AC7 plotline so....yeah

>>533008847
Kino

>AC2 Nagase doesn't steal random Ridge State fighter.
>She calls up her old PMC who just happen to be a few hours flight time away
>She shows up in one of Scarface's planes in the classic livery
Pure Kino

>>533000868
>Five minutes after takeoff

>>533017478
They literally show drop tanks being dumped at Yinshi Valley

>>532960307
Dunno but I hope whoever wrote PAs story doesn't touch this

>>533024767
right , but i dont remember any other cutscene in the serie where we see jets doing it

>>533025132
Anon...

>>533029635
When Rena docks with the Sphyrna in the UPEO route.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLxKlCpLPqQ

>>533024767
And you can drop the tank on the TGM Hornet, I think it was by holding down the weapon switch button.

>>533025132
how do i say this anon...

>>533017478
Several times in 5 you just have to be fast enough to see them drop.

>>533037945
Does dropping the tank have any gameplay effect, or is it just cosmetic?

>>533048674
Nah it just looks cool and lets you do fun things like this with it.

>>533038543
Wait doesn't Pavli only do the soundtrack, please tell me he only does the soundtrack>>533032576

>>533050114
Pavli is the director, and FAN is the writer. The real fun part is who the animators are.

>>533051062
>The real fun part is who the animators are.
dunno any of those guys so why is that ?

>>532828982
>Furry aces
shame , the mission selection screen looked nice
https://x.com/PjctAggressorsG/status/1849774918436581509

>>533000868
mmm sleek, shiny planes *sips* they don't make em like they used to

ohter than "looks cool innit" what was the reason behind making you take off from some bridge in Oured in the final ac5 mission
surely the capital of the world superpower would have at least one operative airport

>>533065642
im pretty sure its cause of the ghost of razgriz being bassicaly the equivalent of a Black ops squadron

>>533054104
Ears and a tail do not make a furry
pay attention to the chart>>532843295

>>533058562
pretty sure modern planes are also sleek and shiny

>>533068091
they're all built with dull composites when they aren't coated with radar absorbing panels so they're not shiny

>>533058562
the only plane that looks nice in shiny and chrome is the F-86

>>533068251
hopefully one day stealth stop being the meta cause radars will become so good that it will detect them like any regular aircraft and we can go back to shiny planes with cool livery

>>533070017
much more likely that combat aviation will just be attritable unmanned aircraft by that point

>>533070315
gonna end up like we see in lighthouse , a manned "brain" fighter with several UAV fighters following its instructions

>>533068251
We might be going back

>>533070017
Then you adapt your stealth tech to counter the radar and its back to same once again.

>>533070731
F-22 already has her drones and testing has begun now so no gonna end up about it its already happened.

>>533071769
>and its back to same once again.
i think im starting to understand Pierre Sprey

>>533073969
That you want to build a free target for the enemy?

>>533074156
nah that stealth made air warfare gay

>>533067531
>>532843295
Ok fair enough but I still seen a ton of Furry pfps on twatter and youtube in the AC or plane nerd sphere. Like actual fursonas

>>533074440
It takes a specific kind of autism to be into plens, and for some reason it's the same kind of autism that a lot of furries have.

>>533074371
Nah that was canards stealth just made it sneaky

>>533077367
Rafales really are pretty smol huh

>>533065642
It's a black squadron that legally don't exist.
Much easier to empty a highway than all that bureaucratic redtape to divert an airport runway

what id kono mean by this

Speaking of AC, I would like it if a DLC has us fighting on the opposite side. So like a Yuke fighter pilot during the Siege of Cinigrad

>>533092397
speaking of Yukes , really hope they return one day , if the next game do take place in Sotoa theres hope

>>533092871
Seeing as Sota boarders them we would have some mention if nothing else. Of course the war could be the Yukes fell apart and the western part of the Yukes have decided they want new clay. As the eastern part was to well intact and defended for them to take over.

As a joke, AC8 can have both Crusader and Corsair II at the same time.

What did they mean by this
https://x.com/GE_Aerospace/status/1949922918739091803

>>533098084
Dankstar

>>533098084
Iykyk

>>533053849
The fun part is that at this point the animators might literally be nobody. They spent all their funds and can no longer pay them. At least one is essentially confirmed to have jumped ship, and the others are, at best, only working on it when they feel like it.

>>533108014
>blew all of the 55 881 € they got on kickstarter
wonder how big palvi was expecting the animation to be especially since he asked 30k for it at first

boo

Why the US not put climate control device for their carriers to prevent F-35 from rusting?

>>533049383
Jesus that thing is massive

Just got fired
Cheer me up with the coolest photo of jet plens you have

>>533135075
Bombers are big girls

F-35s can and WILL do this to you, be warned

>>533138343
Concorde honestly might just be the prettiest thing to ever fly

>>533140059
>stuck at the top until a Yak-141 is kind enough to let you down

>>533140059
You need a KC-135 nearby to use that mode effectively in the battlefield

>listening to random tracks on Youtube
>stumble on this
https://youtu.be/PuPaz6nCwpY&t=95

Why would the Prowler needs three EW Officers when most other EW fighters did it with just one?

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>>533151440
Why Markov not launch Trinity and then harass Bishop to prevent him from destroying the missile is beyond me.
All air defenses are down and Markov is apparently capable enough to fight Bishop in a Raptor even while carrying a large cruise missile on one wing

>>533138343
Very nice

>>533152225
>Trinity's tail is damaged in Miami
>Markov obviously can't inspect it himself, only trust whatever his wingmen can see
>this means that there's no way to tell if the missile will guide correctly after launch, tumble out of control, or even drop without starting its engine
>in the worst-case scenario, Markov may be forced to lob it directly over the target, and you can't line up to drop it if Bishop is on your ass

>>533098084
Probably innovated on some bullshit feature no one cares
>Our new titanium rivets are 0.014% lighter!

>>533156778
But GE is mainly an engine maker so I'm guessing something engine related.

>>533138343
The ritual.

>>533171165
This one?

>>533161093
Final Countdown having so much backing from the USN still boggles my mind.

>>533184102
Why? It was a huge hit with Navy people at the time.

After much pondering and deliberation I have concluded that the Mirage 2000 is in fact the best-looking euro triangle

Never thought about looking close but on Solitaire as your on your way out and everyone else shows up at the return line. Everyone is flying F-5's in Wardog colors when by that point your flying F-14A's Yeah even Swordsman who only ever flew F-14's was in one of your old F-5

>>533207984
The grain blurs the AI woman well enough but it can't do nothing for the plane.

>>533212554
Unrealistic. It's a self serve and Raptor pilots are not trained to leave cockpit without a ladder

>>533216908
Raptor pilots being drama queens again
F-35 pilots are doing just fine filling up.

What kinda of hacks/cheats scrubs use the most ? Love seeing a X-02 staling mid air like a Harrier then flipping-firing undodgeable 4AAMs unstop.

Should've bought the damn game on the consoles..

>>533226441
I've seen speed hacks, PSM-at-any-speed hacks, infinite health hacks, one-shot-kill hacks, you name it. Lagswitches too.

>>532925848
None of them have the cigarrete

>>533226937
and there's no anticheat whatsoever ? Gotta manually befriend people and host my own game from now on.

Mofo couldn't make more obvious, kicked me out as soon as the match ended after losing the lead to my Mig31 for 2 whole minutes as a X-02 while one shooting and flipping in place, the price of playing on pc sadly

>>533184102
They wanted to show off their flash new carrier. That's why the Nimitz has so much of a presence in the story. It's also one of the reasons why I prefer this movie over Top Gun.

>>533232745
Speaking of carrier, I find it interesting how Kestrel is practically on her shakedown cruise in Juggernaut

My beloved doomed idea

>>533257834
A new version could return especially given that China is playing around with Ekranoplan now

Watched Hot Shots this evening. It was supposed to just be the first five minutes but it was so fucking funny that we couldn't stop until the credits ended. Jesus, they just don't make them like this anymore.
Also have to appreciate how even a screwball comedy back then could get access to a bunch of actual flying aircraft. My dad's particularly fond of the Gnat, so its starring role was a treat for him. Especially amusing was the presence of the F-5 once again serving as the enemy fighters in exactly the same fashion as it had in Top Gun.

At least the Switch 2 ought to run the game juuuust fine.

Post your opinions that will get you shot in planefag circles
The F-4 and F-14 are kinda ugly

>>533292620
YF-23 is ugly. F-14 is hyper overrated.

>>533295990
>YF-23 is ugly
Hard agree, based

>>533226441
Shitters on console will still abuse lag switches, abuse LAAM sniping then quit mid match when you chase them (only to hot join back in 30 seconds later), or group up with Discord/clan buttbuddies to gang up on you 3~5v1 in FFA.
Outside of this place, I hate the Ace Combat playerbase so fucking much after playing AC7 multiplayer.

>>533304150
I played maybe 3 or 4 multiplayer matches, never touched it again.
I know why they put it in the game. It was still a mistake.

>>533292620
The MiG-23 was a decent plane

absolute PEAK aircraft shape
it's all downhill from here

ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE

>>533283531
Don't forget it has a sequel

>>533304379
I have never touched MP to this day

>>533306932
Why don't we do area rule anymore?

>>533307725
ac8 final boss plane

>>533315881
Nah those are what are escorting the final boss plane
THIS is the final boss

>>533306240
MiG-27 was better

>>533317826
Huh??
>looks it up
>its real
Buhwhahahahhaaha

>>533321476
>>533317826
i remember once seeing a PW meme of him making a volcano erupt into Kings

>>533304379
>>533311227
7's MP can be quite enjoyable, but it's highly contingent on players not using shitter tactics like swapping to EML/QAAM, or calling friends on you because they can't beat you 1v1. It doesn't help that the game lacks an in-game block list, so you can't auto kick known cheaters or players you already know are going to act like dickheads.

fuck whoever coded excalibur lasers

>>533323470
Couldn't avoid the red dot that appears?

>>533323470
Fly slower, you'll have more time to react.

>>533324258
>>533324712
yeah and then I see the cunt show up at my 12 o clock and no matter where I go it gets me and shits all over me because theres literally no escape if it hits you

>>533324949
You done that mission by flying straight into Excalibur? Just cosplay as an AC-130 and circle it

>>533324949
Fly at cruise speed, maintain your heading.
Turn 90 degrees when big red circle on radar.
Repeat until out of the AO.

>>533324949
For that part of the level keep your map open it'll make it easier to see where it appears other than that just do what Flanker said.

>>533326592
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>>533326592
The Brits did that long time ago just the mascara isn't ruined.

>>533327017
That one just looks like it's horrified by the war crimes it's being used to commit.

>>533327703
>your plane after mecenary run hoffnung

There is not one single instance of sharktooth not looking ugly, retarded and lame in the entire history of aviation.

>>533327953
Even this one?

>>533327953
i dunno that one look good

>>533283531
(You)

>>533304150
>abuse lag switches
and jailbreak'd players who can use hacks, same old shit I endured back in 2011 with assault horizon, besides the blatant hacking this multiplayer as some SERIOUS balance issues that makes 60 % of the planes useless.
>>533311227
>No PvE or co-op campaign, not even as a dlc..thanks Kono never mind having a mode that usually increases sales
>>533323469
tried Ace Combat Fan tips for the multiplayer and...it didn't matter at all you still get bodied by 4 F-22s firing QAAMs and 8AAMs at you and that other poor guy on a F/A-18.
Insane batshit balance issues

>>533334214
As WOPR would say

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>>533328619
that one just looks cute

I like how Ace Combat 2 ace callsigns were based of western movies, rip Tallman and Metalsphere

>>533311227
i blame MP for TLS being so fucking weak in this game

>>533334214
Honestly I've had more positive than negative experiences overall with the multiplayer, even outside of the weekly shootouts. QAAM-spamming Raptors are annoying, but a lot of them are kinda shit players so they're easy to outmaneuver in something like a maxed out Rafale, and if you really wanna fuck their shit up just bring a long-range HVAA or LAAM build and watch them ragequit.

>>533340472
>TLS is nerfed to the point of irrelevance
>PLSL does pretty much the same thing but way better
>EML is allowed to exist in MP at all

>>533340724
>something like a maxed out Rafale
for me its the Mig31

>>533340472
This is one we can blame 100% on PA the game was setup to allow SP & MP stats to be separate they just chose to be lazy with it.

>>53334116
Yeah, thrust brick + boom-and-zoom or LAAM sniper tactics is pretty solid QAAMspam counterplay.
Personally I tend to go for my F-2 if I want missile options at any range, or my YF-23 or FB-22 if I want nobody to have fun anymore.

>>533342556
>>533341169
Fucking phone ate a digit off of my reply.

>>533342687
works against X-02 too

damn who the fuck teached that kid to speak like that to her mother ?

>>533344813
trigger orphaned so many kids some of them probably had to sell themselves in some post-lighthouse war refugee camp just to eat

>>533344813
>Eat shit and die, mum
Christ.

>>533349171
Estovakian Kids would never