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Previously on /coopg/ : >>532156627

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Steam Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/steam-hotfix-6-6-4-30th-of-june/110130

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #72 (1.8.4) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-72-1-8-4-patch-notes/110661

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - 24 July
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Vetbros.. we're starving..

>>532371071
please sir, just one belt fed weapon

MEGA

Make
Executioner stance
Great
Again

Reminder that Zealot is never getting a shield.

If Vets are starving then what is the state of Psykers considering its been 3yrs since release and still no additional staff weapons

>>532371071
>>532371113
You have your plasma already. It’s enough. :)

>>532371454
Psyker can make any weapon in their arsenal work through pure damage amp. Vet can't.

>>532371386
Do zealots even use shields?

>>532371778
pretty sure "zealot" is a generic term and not an official thing. So it's up to fatshark/gw to decide what they get. But there is such a thing as Crusaders.

>>532371113
>please sir, just one belt fed weapon
It's likely that they won't even be belt fed.
It's just gonna be an LMG but with 300 round box magazine.

>>532371778
Darktide's Zealots are affiliated with none but the Mourningstar and its Inquisition. They can do whatever the fuck they want, they're not bound to any rules.

>>532371778
>>532372159
The closest thing to ‘zealots’ 40k has are the Militia something something which are just ordinary citizens who take up arms to fight against whatever they perceive to be a threat to them/the emperor but yeah there’s no like, official Imperial position under the name ‘zealot’

>>532372360
Oh and the same goes for everyone in the ship except the Arbites by the way, and similarly but less so Ogryn for size reasons. None of the rejects are affiliated and under command of any body but the Inquisition in the ship. Not sure what this idea of "lore-friendly arsenal" comes from considering this. The only limitations come from FS's wish to have classes stay distinct. Zealot doesn't get a shield because of FS's decision to only give shields to frontliners.

>>532372360
They seem to be some class of Ecclesiarchy Preists.

>non stealth vet/zealot
eeww wtf

>>532372159
This would look pretty fucking sick, ngl.

>>532372896
>Zealot doesn't get a shield because of FS's decision to only give shields to frontliners.
What are Zealots then? Damage Dealers?

>>532375158
DPS brawler
Note that both Ogryn and Arbites hold several DAMAGE resistance talents, Zealot holds only toughness resistances.
Same goes for stamina, blocking, stagger related talents, to which Zealot holds none of.
Every tool in the Arbites loadout is built to help him hold ground. Zealot only gets chorus for that, and even then he is completely unable to attack enemies while doing it, instead relying on teammates to do so. All of Ogryn's and Arbites' abilities help them hold ground and/or make space and amplify their damage and resistances simultaneously.

>>532376060
Well nvm, I just remembered Zealot holds a whole 2 damage reduction talents (25% for 2s on dodge and shield of contempt which is 60% for you or allies for 4s upon taking health damage every 10s)
These are never taken on The Build probably due to lack of points

>>532334145
Me again. Finally got the build going and gave it a go and, holy crap did they do something to Smite in the course of a year? Use to feel so satisfying, now I just build up peril and have to keep slamming the breaks with r so I don't pop.

do you think arbiter will get nerfed or that the other 3 classes will be brought to its power level or a mix of both?

>>532378809
I hope the others get brought up.
Because honestly, I feel like if you're using a particular classes' 'the build' they're already damn near arbitrator in the value they bring to the team.
It's just that with arbitrator you can do just about anything and have a good build and the other classes are filled with trap options that make them dogshit.

>>532379040
so you think making skills that are traps stronger or more valueable will be enough for the builds to shine and be different enough so you play them?

>>532379040
This. There's alot of weapons in the game, but it's usually all the non-ogryn using Dueling Swords and arby's using mauls and shields.

Like c'mon, give me a reason to use the Catachan beyond just "make my own build and eat shit because it didn't kill in 2-3 hits."

and I WILL take any excuse to piss about the Flamer being a puff puff piece of shit for being unsatisfying. Just do the TF2 Flamethrower, it's not that hard. Flamers go *FWOOOOOSH* pissing out a jet of flame. Not puff puff passing at the function.

>>532379378
get good

>>532379378
>and I WILL take any excuse to piss about the Flamer being a puff puff piece of shit for being unsatisfying.
>Just do the TF2 Flamethrower, it's not that hard. Flamers go *FWOOOOOSH* pissing out a jet of flame.
Hold m2 and then press m1

>>532379189
Honestly? In a fair few cases yeah I'd say so.
Granted I'd like to see them remodel the tree loadouts in general to be more akin to the arbitrator one too.
Especially with zealot and vet I feel I'm stuck taking talents I don't want if I want a certain ability or grenade or a specific talent, the way they've formatted the arbitrator tree in that regard is just way better.

>>532379509
I do that and then a pox walker slaps my fat ass and interrupts it, leading me to have to do it again.

I. hate. that.

>>532378809
I don't think so, it would mean any oother dlc class would suffer the same fate and shitters would get fearful

>>532379563
makes sense. I feel that vet is plenty powerful just lacks some oomph
>>532379643
also true, pissing off the fanbase would be retarded

>>532378809
They will very slightly nerf Arbites then bring ever class to a very slightly lower level than him because DLC class gets benefits

>>532379612
I think Zealot has a talent that makes him immune to stuns altogether

>>532379189
Fatshark has been avoiding nerfs for a long time now. I think it's safe to assume the other classes can expect buffs. And then we'll just have to live with the powercreep that comes with it.

They could always buff specific enemies if needed. I think it's time to bring out the ORIGINAL dreg shotgunners. They've been a joke for too long.

>>532380017
I'll have to give it a look. Even then the feedback on it is still ass. Then again that's always Fatshark's flamethrowers, Vermin or Darktide.

>>532380386
Honestly I wouldn't mind them buffing shotgunners to be a little scarier
nowadays when I see a shotgunner swarm I just go 'sweet, time to hog the killfeed'

>>532380589
>>532380386
Same. I see Shotgunner packs as free kills to boost my ego. They should one shot your toughness or maybe go a bit faster? (Think the TF2 Scout, but in Warhammer and not AS fast?)

I can't fucking believe how slow the Relic Blade is. Even with Martyrdom it feels soooo slow, and I'm pretty sure this is the worst dodge in the game

FAH CADIA!

I'm actually trying to build for myself for once. Is this a trap one?

>>532383906
They just announced New Cadia

>>532384198
you shouldn't be preparing to fail

I'd like to build a no-dog no-arbites weapons arbites for fun.
I've been having success with the revolver but I'm not sure which melee weapon to take.

>>532384279
True but it makes me think of a dark horse kinda ability. But ah well.

>>532384703
can't go wrong with the crusher maul

>>532384703
Dueling Sword 4 is always a safe bet. But at that point just buy that Inquisition set for Zealot and RP as Saltzpyre.

>>532381842
the thunder hammer used to only have two dodges

>>532384979
>>532385072
Thank you, will check it out.

>>532379612
did you know this game has a dodge feature? try binding it in the settings

>>532386219
Yes smarty, I do. But heat of combat and all that. Pun not intended.

I'm not convinced by venting shriek

>>532387427
applies a shit ton of burn

>>532387427
be a scrier's gaze chad instead then

>demoted to 20
why are randoms so fucking bad

>>532389306
How many ranks did you lose? Worst streak for me was 34 to 27.

I figured it out, you should avoid havocs with arbies in them, they're all getting heavily carried by their bullshit

>>532356889
Not really. They gave Vet a ton of different tools that enable a number of different playstyles. Simplifying it to "the ranged class" is ignoring the plethora of shit they get for melee and the few things they get for support. No other class gets the talent support to play both ranged and melee roles except maybe Ogryn, ironically. Every other class is much more specialized. Sure, Vets were intended as the ranged class originally, but that's not how their class design has turned out by this point. Try thinking for two seconds before acting like an abrasive fuckwad.

Dogshit and outdated = Hybrid btw

>>532389306
desu if you can't hardcarry up to 30 you aren't good enough to beat fading light II at 30+ yet, you'll drag your team down.
Hardcarrying 30+ seems borderline impossible though, I've successfully solod havoc 40 a handful of times before but carrying 1-2 retards through 30+ is way harder and it kind of kills the fun in havoc for me. If it was easier to set up a solo I'd do it all the time

>>532391563
>sure, we'll take a second ogryn, at least you're not an arbites, those guys are braindead

>>532391916
I cocnur, they literally keep buffing vets melee options too. His talents that don't work when enemies are near got reworked, and his bleed talent got reworked to be arguably quite close to the Ogryn bleed, which has always been 90% of the reason ogryn is good at melee.
Vet players often do have that "I'm ranged!" mindset though which is why i feel a lot of it is just wasted. They'd rather magdump a crusher with a recon las than stab it twice

>>532391563
>oh boy a zealot with chorus this guy definitely knows what's up
>psyker bubble? hell yeah brother! speak yo shit! now we'll win!

>>532384703
Rashad or Tac Axe Mk IV

>>532391563
I've been only playing Arbites in Havoc. I want to melee, and I don't like Ogryn.

Zealots that use Fury of the Faithful actually know how to play the game and what they must do.
Chorus users hope that Chorus will play the game for them and hope that their teammates will know what to do while they AFK with relic in hand.

>get slapped once by a poxie in the back
>dead
havoc as psyker is ball torture

>>532393285
>Zealots that use Fury of the Faithful
With what weapons?
>inb4 FOTF Zealot still just wants to run DS so it can shit on elites and bosses

>borderlands 4 class gameplay trailer
>oh wow this exo-soldier guy actually looks fun
>third person hack and slash mode ability, turrets, shoulder mounted cannons, cool
>he's hispanic
>he mixes spanish and english constantly and rolls his r's
haha, no, no thanks, I'll pass, haha! no! I don't want any, not for me! haha!

>>532394052
borderlands was never very good to begin with but these new games are something else man

>>532394052
>haha, no, no thanks, I'll pass, haha! no! I don't want any, not for me! haha!

why are you talking like this?
And why the fuck are you actually interested in any Borderlands after 2?

>>532394052
you sound worse than the characters in the game

>>532394050
I use the crusher and eviscerator.

>>532380017
You are thinking of the Punishment skill, it's the one preceding Invocation of Death.
It gives you the Uninterruptible status.

>>532393285
>Chorus users hope that Chorus will play the game for them and hope that their teammates will know what to do while they AFK with relic in hand.
It's frustrating how true this is even in havoc 40. Never mind the part where they don't know how often or when to use chorus either, and rarely if ever bring the correct build, coping for melee damage nodes because they're still in denial about being a support build.

>>532397796
>>532380017
Thy wrath be swift

>Darktide
>Still no Halberd
>No Power Axe
>No spear
>No polearm
>No poleaxe
>No flail
what gives?

>>532397469
In 40s? I've never been impressed with the Crusher, and the Eviscerator gets a little sketchy at times in Aurics with enough heavy armor on you. I hadn't even considered trying them in Havoc.

>>532398772
>no dual wielding
Fatshark hates us

>>532399721
dual wielding is for the eldar class

>>532399721
>no dual wielding
Slab shield
Suppressor shield
Shield and shotpistol

This is all realistic dual wielding

>>532400045
faggot

>>532400481
Just make your expectations more realistic

Chances are that, any cool ideas we have, they're just holding onto for upcoming DLC. Like the ranged shield combo or actually good shotguns.

>knife zealot joins strike team
>haven't seen one of those in a while, I wonder if he's going to-
>runs all the way to the group checkpoint and just waits for us all to die
>team plants our feet and successfully fights the entire army he just dumped on us instead of trying to catch up to him
>he gets pounced by a dog and leaves
why do they do it

>>532403478
A great reason to oink out for the low, low price of $12

I swear to god I want to strangle the people who leave as soon as they down once.

I also want to strangle Fart Shart for having a nice summer instead of fixing their servers BEFORE they went on their vaycay.

why can't ogryns have hugeass mauls like crushers?
>inb4 muh drg meme pickaxes
fuck off

>>532403883
I paid like 19 actually. Would pay again

if im against a crusher, is 15% rending equal to 15% damage?

why stupid retards in this game never responding to me when i clearly ask a question to voice ?
just now guy had an ogryn and never answer to the call to med kit

>>532404829
Even better!
>>532404980
Depends on the weapon. Some weapons already do pretty much full damage against carapace. There's a difference between a branx pickaxe heavy attack and a heavy sword light attack in terms of armor penetration

>>532404980
No, it can be massively more than that or less
armor works like this
>your first light attack has a base damage of 100 (example)
>this is not visible ingame but usually aligns roughly with damage vs unarmored on the attack table
>the same attack does 1 damage vs carapace
>meaning it has 1% armor pen
>when you get 15% rending it adds that to the armor pen
>do you do 16 damage, huge increase
exaggerated example but weapons with bad armor pen tend to have good base damage and benefit a lot from rending. Bleed is also this way. To contrast if your plasmagun does 100 damage to unarmored and 99 to carapace that rending isnt gonna do much

>>532405234
I can never understand anything that people say in vc

>>532404980
The only Arbites weapons that benefit from rending to a notable extent are Crusher and Tactical Axe afaik.

>>532406340
And shield light attacks

>>532404557
ROCK AND STONE

>>532405234
>why stupid retards in this game never responding to me when i clearly ask a question to voice ?

>>532404557
Maintaining unique enemy aesthetic I guess?

>>532405234
I'm not dropping a heal just because some retard got himself fucked up running ahead.

Holy fucking shit the 2014 errors have gotten much more frequent. I just clutched forever and then the fucking mission got aborted just when i reached my team

>>532399721
>In 40s?
Oh you were talking havoc?
I was talking aurics.

>>532404557
>>inb4 muh drg meme pickaxes
>fuck off

Leaf Lover

>>532409975
I'm hitting my head against a wall. What actually happened and is this even fixable? That and the little bits of lag dragging your character along is just painful.

Did adding a Dog really fuck the servers that bad?

>>532411439
There wasn't even any dogs in that mission

>>532405234
I think that by default the game has voice chat receiver volume really low

>>532404557
Because they're boring

>>532414261
wrong bud

>hardstuck on Karnak twins
What the fuck is this shit?

HARD STUCK
HARD STUCK
PLEASE

I'm actually looking forward to KF3 tomorrow

>>532416976
I fucking hate you and I hope you die

>>532417552
Sorry I had fun with the beta, simple as that

what's up with the captain boss with the power sword randomly one shotting me every once in a while?

>>532418573
Try blocking

>>532416976
It’ll be you and like other 10 other people

>>532416976
if it breaks 10k concurrent and has "positive" on steam reviews I'll consider it, but I doubt either of those are going to happen

How many hours left for the shop reset?

>>532418573
youre trying to attack him while hes focusing you arent you

>>532418573
when his shield breaks or he does the shield burst attack?
someone was saying it's bugged to deal the damage of the full charged up sword swing

>>532420652
>>532420917
Sometimes he is not even focussing me and he oneshots me through full toughness and hp I'm pretty sure it's a bug

>>532423908
yeah theres a bug where if youre inside his shield as it bursts it does insane damage

>new features like text chat
IT'S OVER, DARKTIDE IS DEAD, KILLING FLOOR WON

>>532424571
actual roadmap:
- 2026, sunsetting KF3. Thanks for playing killing florers, yadda yadda

>>532424571
>roadmap slop
Ok, so the devs are gonna normalize this dogshit of releasing an unfinished, halfbaked games that they then fix over time instead of reasonably finishing it.

>>532425601
It already is normalized and these very same devs have been doing it for the past 9 years

>>532391916
>>532392821
Problem is that all the melee talents are on the noobtrap side of the tree, so you'll get kicked for bringing stealth/smokes/no ammo aura.

>>532418573
If the shield breaks right as he's doing the BIg One it glitches out and instantly hits you twice.

>>532425601
it's been normalized man

>>532424571
>new features like text chat

>>532424571
>new features like text chat
Bruh.

>>532428139
you can still get them even when running survivalist and voc, no need for krak or smoke

What a shitty fucking day of playing darktide

>>532420412
>Already thursday in sweden

any rat news??

>>532430758
Yes. They said that vermintide 2 has officially reached end of service and that we should not expect a vermintide 3

>>532431064
source??

Arbites has forced my hand, I need 0.5s stamina

>citadel endgame with a invuln, regen, vampiric chaos spawn
You forgot to make it a minotaur you fucking chucklefuck

>>532431361
Stamina eco is unironically one of the things keeping Vet from being stronger in melee.

arbite macht frei xd

>>532431314
Turn on the TV
Any non-fr*nch channel

>>532424571
>>BIG NEW SPECIALISTS! IT'S THE GUY FROM THE FIRST KILLING FLOOR YOU ALL LOVE!!! (But not Foster, we're gonna charge for him probably)
>Waiting for next year for Gunslinger, something that was already in the first two games no problem (I haven't played KF1 in a dog's age)
>Comics
KF is still trying to have a plot?
>Text Chat

Right well, guess we'll just enjoy the first two ones eh?

Dont forget, Darktide 2 will also have both playable Ratlings and enemy Skaven

>>532424571
>music collectibles
>comics
Glad to see they have their priorities straight. This totally isn’t damning at all.

>>532432175
>slaanesh
not unless i see bare titties bouncing

>>532432965
>want titties bouncing around
>get his ass boucing instead

Darktide 2 would need a full revamp of how old units act if they decide to add another chaos faction
Nurgle is supposed to be the slow, bulky and hard to kill faction but Darktide has them sprinting non-stop and berserker raging at you because that's more fun for the gameplay
Honestly a lot of units act more like Khorne aligned chaos worshipers than Nurgle followers. If they wanted multiple chaos factions they would have to start setting them apart by actually leaning into their core traits
Perhaps Darktide 2 would be better off staying Nurgle only for chaos but adding a xenos enemy faction

>>532431631
Fosters already in the game lil bro

>>532433919
You'll get denim thieves and enjoy it

>>532433919
>Nurgle is supposed to be the slow, bulky and hard to kill faction
This mostly apply to Death Guard because they were turned in "zombie tanks" though, nurgle flies and other units are fast as fuck

>>532434648
ok everything I said is still true though

>>532434648
Imagine some flying ass nigga snatching you up in darktide

>>532436770
would be kino of the grandest order
i love insect enemies

>>532437647
I bet you do, bug boy

>>532438243
dont call me that (please)

>>532433919
Nah the Poxwalkers are pretty accurately fast they’re supposed to be zombies more or less, I think it’s pretty for all the units we’ve engaged so far to be mostly focused on melee, the major thing they’re missing a toxic constant miasma of diseased air and particles being around them at all times like literally every Nurgle unit is known for possessing, but Fatshark probably doesn’t know how to implement something like that without being annoying

>>532430758
Yeah I got your news right here: Rats are adorable

>>532438287
Should i "buzz off"?

>>532434648
>>532436770

Moreso than that. You see those Beasts of Nurgle? Those happy puppies? Yeah they eventually get depressed because "no one plays with them", and then go into a coccoon, and get really edgy and resentful until they come out a cruel and malicious Plague Drone that eats your head and keeps it undigested in it's guts with all the other heads.

Pleasant dudes.

Oh and sometimes Talleymen ride 'em.

>>532440103
Come, mister tally man, tally me banana

I'm so fucking stupid. I haven't played in a month and was curious if the Swedes had mentioned anything about the DS4 rework and PG nerfs, then I remembered they are on vacation... again.

what the fuck is this pic? I see this consensus alot, but can someone explain how Break the line (2m dash that gives you some impact bonus) is "less situational" than Castigator stance (10s of invunrebility every 40s)?

I've been playing around with break the line, and whenever i see 10000 gunners + shotgunners, its suddenly a whole thing, theres no way to close the gap (dash too short) and it doesn't give you toughness back so that you can shoot back. dealing with gunners with break the line is now 10 times the headache than it was with castigator stance, and for what? A faster cooldown for an ability that aoe stuns (literally either arbites melee) or opens up bullwarks/rager groups (literally any blitz). Is the point to just walk at gunners with a shield?

I see enough good players use it in havoc to were i know its not BAD, but idk what i'm missing here.

Arbites slop soon

>>532441074
That's just an Ogryn

>>532441056
Disrupt the gunners before they get into position, shoot them or use the shield

>>532441232
BIGGEST GETS BIGGEST PILE OF SLOP

>>532441663
>DA TATERS ARE ON ME BOYZ!

>>532441056
>can someone explain how Break the line (2m dash that gives you some impact bonus) is "less situational" than Castigator stance (10s of invunrebility every 40s)?
Because BTL gives you a straight +25% damage bonus no questions asked and has a short enough cooldown that it's up almost all the time.

>>532441963
and also a little punt out of danger if need me.

Just because it's an offensive push doesn't mean you can't use it as an escape method.

>>532436770
Then flying away with you and cocooning you somewhere where you won't aggro enemies but take continuous corruption damage.

>>532409416
The arbiter armor actually looks kinda cool but the pickaxe is pretty cringe.

>>532442774
We need greataxe cosmetics for the pickaxes and mace skins for the bully clubs

lone wolf is actually pretty cool with the mines. I """feel""" like its a bit more difficult at times but in extreme situations it has the potential to save the entire team. Wish the cooldown was 40-45 seconds tho

>>532443452
There are good arguments for both and it depends on build
>using shield
Pair with bolter
>using bolter
Pair with dog
>not using shield
Pair with grenades or mines
>grenades and mines
Pair with lone wolf

>>532442221
literally me
>oh man is that a poxburster trying to asplode me?
>I MOVE

>>532441056
>I see this consensus alot
I literally see this 2nd time, 1st time was when the author posted it
Maybe stop reposting garbage

>>532444310
i mean i've seen people glaze break the line and pass on castigator stance alot

reading comprehension anon, an image is not a consensus.

>>532441056
>but can someone explain how Break the line (2m dash that gives you some impact bonus) is "less situational" than Castigator stance (10s of invunrebility every 40s)?
You get more utility out of BTL and can use it more often. It can be used to
>initiate fights
>open up Bulwark congalines
>provide general CC
>move (though it's pretty meh at this on its own)
>help teammates who're getting overwhelmed
>assist in revives
>probably more stuff I'm forgetting or not thinking of
It also benefits the team by taking enemies temporarily out of the equation and creating openings. On top of the number of uses it has, it's spammable. Castigator is mostly just a "don't die, motherfucker" button that doesn't directly help anyone else. Yes, it can be nice for giving you some high-DPS windows by being able to ignore damage or save you from sketchy situations and mistakes, but it's otherwise not too useful, and it's on a long CD. Over the course of a game, BTL provides insane benefit whereas Castigator, at its very best, will have saved you a couple times or made a battery run slightly smoother.

>and whenever i see 10000 gunners + shotgunners, its suddenly a whole thing
You have multiple tools to handle those situations. The main ones are of course grenades/dog explosion, shield flash, suppression, and fucking sliding combined with Arbites's insane toughness regen. If that's not enough for you, you have made an error of positioning 99 times out of 100.
>theres no way to close the gap (dash too short) and it doesn't give you toughness back so that you can shoot back. dealing with gunners with break the line is now 10 times the headache than it was with castigator stance, and for what?
It sounds like you're crutching on Castigator and need to improve your ability to close gaps manually. Moreover, open rooms with lots of gunners/reapers aren't something you are necessarily supposed to charge into immediately anyway, so not being able to do so is potentially fine.

>>532442723
Me on my way to pinch a great deal in the slopshop

*squee* im gonna need extra arms to grab all of these fantastic deals

>>532446746
kek

>>532446746
So is there a point or are you just showing off weird pigs you genned?

Did I cook?

>>532448107
>carry me harder, daddy

>>532448107
If this is for Havoc, I'd take Target the Weak since it's multiplicative damage, though I'm admittedly unknowing as to whether it'll actually get you breakpoints. Adamant Will isn't something I've ever felt a need for, and Rebreather is mostly just useful for pox gas missions, so you can choose between one of those. Otherwise it's pretty much the standard LW Forceful build, so it's obviously going to be good.

>>532446924
It's to make you hyped for the slop rotation

>>532441056
Author here.
>can someone explain how Break the line is "less situational" than Castigator stance?
Extremely high uptime on +25% additive damage (not as good as it sounds) and enables Forceful's Arbites Vigilant for a permanent +25% strength (stacks additively with other sources of strength, which arbitrator only has one other source of, the rest of that math is multiplicative). It's the single biggest source of damage the class has access to.
On top of that, you get a burst of mobility. Ever been caught by a trapper because you were conveniently out of dodges? Never again. Bomber or flamer hit you? No they didn't. Mutant charging you or your buddy? Nope.
And you get a huge aoe knockdown on an extremely short cooldown. For all the memes about crushers that Stance may be able to do, BTL takes a massive dump on it by just shoving everything prone every couple of seconds, and you can just double dip on stun locking with the shield maul, achieving criminal amounts of stun time.

>and whenever i see 10000 gunners + shotgunners
You slide toward them, and/or flashbang while holding block, it's not that hard.
>it doesn't give you toughness back
Bro, your CfC node? Just hit something.
>dealing with gunners is now a headache
Skill issue. If you need to tank gunner fire to be able to deal with them, you're doing it wrong. This is why I call Stance a crutch. You shouldn't need it.

All of the things Stance does well, BTL does better and more often while providing more damage. The only exception is getting a safe res off (you have shock mines, save one) or doing objectives (chorus and/or bubble replace the need for this in havoc).
Stance is overrated and used too often as a crutch by bad players. It's really good shit on gun focused builds, but I'm calling meme on gun arbitrators because they're just massive ammo vacuums and barely viable in havoc, short of like... Forceful cleave abuse and spamming special shells, and even then you need an ammo bitch.

>>532448916
I like Adamant will because if I have to hack a terminal, chances are ill use a shockmine, the shockmine ensures I can stay at 10 stacks, with a bit of fluctuation, and I wont be able to be pushed off of it. Same goes for Revives. Target the weak being multiplicative is news to me, but I dont know what id drop to get it. Maybe Ammo Belt, or Force of Will?

>>532449989
Yes, stun immunity is nice, but having played Zealot a ton, I found TWBS (basically the same shit) to mostly be an unnecessary choice at best and a crutch at worst. Do whatever, but it is one of the most swappable choices you have.

The only intriguing thing I have heard anyone say about stance is that you could just DPS down a boss while ignoring its attacks entirely. I assume you'd need the stun immunity node to actually do it. No idea if it actually works or would even be worth it.

>>532450210
Alright, Ill give it a rip

>>532449989
You drop Targets Acquired because chances are it falls off too soon to be nearly as useful when you are spamming BTL anyway. Besides, you get more damage out of Target the Weak, so your priority is fucked if you don't take it instead.

>>532450210
TWBS is a must for Thrust builds, because you lose an obscene amount of damage every time something knocks you out of the heavy attack. It's more than just a QoL crutch (which it is if you use it for anything but Thrust).

>>532450391
You can already DPS down all bosses by just dodging at the correct time. If you need Stance to "trade" with bosses, that is a literal skill issue. The hardest boss to try and trade with is the sword captain due to the cancerous move set, but even that is just a matter of unga bungaing a little less and being patient about waiting for openings. Besides, you're not DPSing down most bosses in 10 seconds unless specifically built for it, and if you are, you still don't need Stance to do it.

>>532449051
Arpigter

>>532450701
>TWBS is a must for Thrust builds
Not really unless you're doing a stealth Thrust monster killer. If you're just using a normal TH FOTF build, TWBS isn't by any means necessary because FOTF staggers all the non-Ogryn enemies around you anyway, and you can use that when you're about to get smacked and can't dodge.

slop thread, slop game, slop images

They should just release ogryn versions of all classes

>ogryn psyker
>tanky
>has an extra wound by default
>brainbursts by pinching with his thumb and index finger
>staves are made from plumbing parts
>can kill crushers with staff melee

>>532449051
>>532451917
Is this the slopacopaganda I was being warned about????

>>532451917
>literal pigdog pet
kek, post more slop

>>532454185
Yes. You might think that it's just an athropomorphic pig in arbites armor, but it is actually meant to brainwash you into sympathizing with fascist authoritarians

>current maelstrom is Extra Poxbursters
>audio channels get raped into essentially becoming deaf because nothing but the ticking plays anymore
Guess I'm sitting this one out.

YOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>532449989
It's not multiplicative, it's a debuff. It stacks additively with other debuffs, like skullcrusher or focus target or taunt.

>>532439116
Poxwalkers are fine speed wise. Their durability on the other hand irritates me to no end if I ever stop and think about it.
Like obviously they're just reskinned cultists from VT2 but they're always described in the lore as taking a lot of punishment. Their stat blocks in the wargame gives them the same Disgustingly Resilient trait that chaos space marines have.
Meanwhile ingame
>shoot one (1) stub round into a horde
>TA DAAHHH, a half dozen poxwalkers are GONEEEE

>>532433919
It should've been tyranigs or greenskins instead of chaos, the ludicrous meatwave tactics doesn't work or make sense for traitors like it did with skaven

Why can't killing floor 3 just be playable at midnight... having to wait till 10am is such a drag.

any1 wnt 2 pley havc geimu???

>>532463089
Evry1 sleep

>>532463406
I too shall nap...

>>532462357
>tyranigs or greenskins
you expect sharta militarum rejects to be capable of dealing with these threats?

>>532463716
No, but I don't expect them to be taking down plague ogryns or BoNs in melee either, the powerlevel is completely wack to begin with so it's barely worth considering.

>>532462357
The meat wave tactics are mostly made up of Poxwalkers who are by and large the former denizens of Tertium and not their own manpower, Nurglite cults are exactly the ones who practice this sort of thing
>>532463926
Plague Ogryns and BoNs do not operate at a set power level. The ones we’re fighting are piss weak and we also have decently powerful psykers and of course Ogryns. Orks and Tyranids would have to be extremely contrived to make sense.

excited to wake up to red text on the killing floor steam page

>>532463926
Darktide just show how are the first symptoms of chaos over a world and his influence thought, the current plague ogryns and beasts are weak as fuck and nothing compared to a full scale conflict, Atoma and any rejects stuck there will end up in exterminatus if the tyraniggers or porks invade the planet.

>>532467851
>first symptoms
the nurgle cult has been on tertium for years...they're summoning daemons

>KF3 at topping the top sellers chart on steam
Oh nonono KF3 haters...

>>532468430
>overwhelmingly negative
calling it rn

>>532468020
>the nurgle cult has been on tertium for years...they're summoning daemons
yeah and still weak for now, at least enough to deal with it since the imperial army and rejects have to salvage weapons and equipment often to stand

>>532468430
dragon age veilguard and avowed both managed to show up on the top sellers the day they released
you typically want to be up there for a week or two before launch if you're not going to flop immediately

Daily reminder that years and decades are nothing in wh40k universe where shit like war machines and space marines last for centuries

>>532469109
And where friendships last forever!

>>532424571
>classic guns
>classic dudes
What was even the point of doubling down on generic sci-fi shit if you're gonna backtrack it a month after release?

>>532468020
there have been no actual daemons, only daemonic beasts, which goes to show how amateur they are. not to mention the poor quality of their daemonhosts. to give you an example of how wide the gap is between a third rate cult like admonition and the real a listers, there was a chaos cult on captain that was fielding dreadnought sized chaos mutants that were giving a custodes shield captain a hard time in close combat. admonition is doing the absolute bare minimum in comparison.

>>532470674
*on terra

>>532470141
>4 seasons to GS
Surprised you didn't point that one out. What a fucking shitshow

>>532470674
Aren't we basically custodes tier anyway?

>>532470905
cool highlight bro
however:

>>532471004
Some of us more so than others...

>>532471027
totally irrelevant, bringing daemons into realspace is already a massive leap for a chaos cult
your headcanon about the enemies fatshark has chosen to make being "no true daemons" doesn't matter unless you can find a source for another chaos cult that "only summoned beasts" and was weaker than typical

>>532471004
You wish kek

>>532470674
daemonic beasts are daemons, thats why theyre called daemonic, theyre cast from the gods themselves as every other daemon. and even then you have fucking daemonhosts, and the eye things that infest the machines

>Beast of nurgle
Ah yes, one of the most retarded demons in wh40k and not a big deal unless they're armies

>>532424571
>new enemy
EDAR in 2026! LETS GOOOOOOOOO

>Rejects barely can fight 1 beast of nurgle, 1 shit tier demonhost and some poxwalkers
>Some people want to see them fight tyranids, orks and chaos space marines
Peak delusion

>>532471325
>>532471783
Daemonic beasts are quite literally mindless animals, they are not daemons proper that can act and think for themselves, for all intents and purposes they’re the fauna of their respective realms that they reside in, and Daemonhosts are sealed into hosts and nerfed, not the same thing as an actual true blue daemon, I.e. Bloodthirsters or something, the eye daemon is a low level manifestation that can’t even defend itself and iirc isn’t even Admonition’s doing but just showed up on its own

>>532472023
Some retard with a toilet brush is mulching daemonhosts for breakfast, and a DOG is soloing beasts of nurgle.

Can i pet that d-ACK!

>anon draws the line of being a powerful daemon at having the capacity for thought
>nurglings are greater daemons than beasts of nurgle

>>532472023
all of those things you listed are lessp owerful than "one shit tier demonhost"

>>532472103
>they are not daemons proper that can act and think for themselves
they do, like one of the things about beasts of nurgle is when people keep rejecting them became malicious rot flies
>low level manifestation
yeah, thats not normal, daemonic entities arent suppose to be manifesting in realspace unless theres massive warpstorm or someone is fucking around with warp magic

>>532472023
if you can take a beast of nurgle or a daemonhost you can take a chaos space marine
it would be retarded to fight them as heavy infantry spawns but they make perfect sense as bosses
plus fighting orks is the bread and butter of the Imperial Guard

>>532472767
>they do
They don’t. BoNs in particular are frequently described as playful and doglike and even have no idea why they’re being attacked. They’re that stupid, they genuinely have no conception of how threatening they are. They are below even other lesser daemons like Plaguebearers. Literal bottom of the hierarchy.
>massive warpstorm or someone is fucking around with warp magic
Both of which we know is happening. The system is cut off precisely because of warp storms and we do know admonition has *some* level of proficiency in sorcery, might even be a mix of both.

Queef of Nurgle

stop breaking coherency guys

>>532473169
>BoNs in particular are frequently described as playful and doglike and even have no idea why they’re being attacked. They’re that stupid, they genuinely have no conception of how threatening they are.
you dont understand nurgle, nurgles very nature is love
>The system is cut off precisely because of warp storms
then how did we get there then, you stupid retard, and if we were here before, we wouldnt have a ship left
>has *some* level of proficiency in sorcery
yeah, we know, because theyre binding lessers into daemonhosts

>>532472683
They unironically are
>>532472995
>if you can take a beast of nurgle or a daemonhost you can take a chaos space marine
Not at all. CSMs actually do operate at a somewhat stable baseline of power because they’re still physical beings but are empowered/corrupted by Chaos and thus are pretty much always powerful, those other enemies have massive variation in how strong they can be because of their inherent Warp based nature which waxed and wanes depending on numerous conditions, such as the weak ones we’re fighting now. Hell, Admonitions sorcerers can’t even command their daemonhosts to attack or even move, which is like the number one sign of shoddy sorcery.
>fighting orks is the bread and butter of the Imperial Guard
Yes, when they have literal millions of men to throw at them and can play the numbers game, not in our situation
>>532474249
>nurgles very nature is love
Yes, and yet curiously, no other daemon is characterized by their animal-like inability to think about anything other than love, because they’re uniquely dumb beasts.
>then how did we get there then
Sheer luck, the intro literally shows this when the gellar field nearly fails during the Warp jump aboard the Mourningstar and all the soldiers are scared, how is it you don’t even know this but yet are acting like an authority on the matter, the warp storms aren’t so bad that we can’t be here period.
>>532474249
>because theyre binding lessers
Yes. Which is still not the same as proper daemons.

>>532475029
>daemon is characterized by their animal-like inability to think about anything other than love,
nurglings
>intro literally shows this when the gellar field nearly fails during the Warp jump aboard the Mourningstar and all the soldiers are scared
you stupid retard, thats literally normal travel, thats not a storm
>proper daemons
that still doesnt make them not a daemon

>>532475497
>nurglings
Are not described as that.
>thats literally normal travel
No it’s not you incredible dumbass, this is literally in game canon fact that is the reason why we’re so undermanned and underequipped, warp travel does not always nearly end with daemons about to fucking break in
>The current warp storm isolation of the domain means no imperial intervention force will be able to come and save the Moebian Domain if their defenses do buckle, as occurred before in M35.
>that still doesnt make them not a daemon
They aren’t standard ones.

>>532449532
>>532445731
>>532441963
>>532441292
i c, I have decided to git gud with the best ability on arbites (impossible)

I will undertake this difficult training regimen, in which I will condition my brain to not light up like a christmas tree and march forward whenever I see an army of gunners/shotgunners/boss. This sisyphean uphill battle WILL be conducted in your havocs, I will also be leveling my shield + maul at the same time (it is currently lvl 6, power 200)

thank you for your sacrifice in helping me become a better player.

>>532476579
P.S. I really hope that leveling the shield + maul will let me move substantially faster with it because compared to my presious arbites knife; this movement/swap speed is cheeks

>>532474249
>then how did we get there then, you stupid retard
The inquisition had arrived on the planet before the warpstorms that started.

>>532471027
NTA, The trend lately with tabletop rpgs using "keywords" feels shallow. I think Pathfinder started with that shit.

Anyway, a BoN is partially sapient since its capable of feelings of revenge, which is essential to its lifecycle.

>>532477162
The shield move speed is atrocious no matter what, and no amount of coping 80% defense on it helps with its poor mobility no matter what Mister Estrogen and orbiters say.
You run it with bolt pistol and swap to it when sprinting. That's all you can do.

>>532477516
>a BoN is partially sapient since its capable of feelings of revenge
Tigers are also capable of feeling revenge.
There is one tiger who got wounded by a poacher, it tracked the man to his cabin and then waited for him, until he showed up and then mauled him to death.

This however doesn't mean tigers are sapient. They are only sentient.

>>532477693
Mr estrogen advocates for dumping power output

>>532477693
>You run it with bolt pistol and swap to it when sprinting
If you are a pussy.
Just use the exterminator shotguns and kill everything instead of running.

>>532477726
In the case of a BoN though it lasts through metamorphosis, that's certainly a longer amount of time for it and they're capable of tracking the target of their revenge between the warp and reality over decades if not centuries.

>>532477782
Yes, that is what anon means abour Mr Estrogen shilling about 80% defence

>>532477516
When did they feel revenge? Are you sure that's not another passive Nurgle curse they aren't aware of?

>>532472023
Astra Militarum fighting orks is their entire thing though

>>532477726
okay, thats like saying a tiger isnt an animal then because its not sapient
>>532477516
warhammer did it, the whole point of a keyword is to direct to a specific thing with specific interactions without leaving room for ambiguity, like daemons, undead, elves

>>532477782
That's retarded

>>532478128
>thats like saying a tiger isnt an animal
It isn't. Tigers are animals, but they aren't sapient. They are only sentient.

>>532478124
we aren’t astra militarum nor do we have access to their resources that enable them to do that

>>532478301
yeah, so we agree, beast of nurgle is a daemon

>>532478168
*mag dumps everything my stubber*
>proceed to hoover up the entire ammo box.

darktide has now been out for almost 3 years and
>theres still no unique story bosses, its all copypasted assassination targets
>commissary had 0 updates
>still no red weapons
>ogryn still only has a handful of weps, instead they introduce a new class that comes with THREE weapons
bare minimum: the game

>>532478372
It's not. It's just a daemonic beast, not a real daemon.

>>532478179
It does basically nothing

>>532478606
Oh almost forgot, there has been ONE new enemy in 3 years and its a fucking reskinned bomber lmao

>>532478642
Losing 2 of range is nothing.
80% defence is useless because you do nothing with that +0,04% dodge distance.

>>532478718
Technically there are 2 new bosses.
It's lieutenants/karnak twins in havoc, aka they just reused the plasma-sword captain and then split him.
It's even lamer and gayer.

>>532478780
It's the difference between losing nothing or losing something. I'd rather lose nothing. Defence also reduces block cost against melee even if it doesn't say so in-game

>>532478637
then a tiger is not an animal, merely and animalistic thing

>>532479162
Retard

>>532478901
They consider the train mission boss a new boss too btw. Its cause he's an admonition champion, not a acab captain. The only real world difference is that his armor is painted yellow

>>532478124
Not all the rejects are part of Astra militarum though

Playing Ranger Veteran Bardin.

I don't really understand the point of the Pickaxe, Greataxe, and Maul. They're all much weaker than the Cog Hammer. Do they have niches that I'm just not seeing?

>>532475029
>Not at all. CSMs actually do operate at a somewhat stabla bla bla
Don't make me pull out the stat sheet nigger

>>532480297
Lore, not table top. Also speaking generally, obviously there are exceptions

>>532480297
>stat sheet
Stat sheet is irrelevant to the lore.

>>532480159
not paying $15

>>532480439
>>532480659
Stat sheets are a stronger qualifier for strength than "it's the lore" because there is no canonical strength to anyone or anything in the lore
If you read one source of lore you can find a single chaos space marine kill thousands of guardsmen and then the next author will write a 5-man squad of guardsmen dominate every chaos space marine they encounter
Stat sheets provide a proper numerical perspective on what strengths and weaknesses units posses and they are part of the tabletop aka the primary source of everything the setting is build around

lasgun go pew pew pew!!!

>>532481097
You’re only partially correct. Stat sheets give a rough idea of how units are meant to be viewed in the context of the universe, but going off of them too discuss power levels is silly because there are things that are obviously nonsense like certain units that we know have no business being paired against each other being roughly similar in stats but have to pass anyway because it’s table top and things have to be balanced, there can’t just be a really strong unit that wipes the entire board every time, even though that would actually coincide with the lore of certain things like the C’tan. Likewise, if you go off the tabletop to find out specific things like how much a Space Marine can lift, you’re going to end up with some truly silly shit. The lore is inconsistent by design, this is why I said generally, the average CSM is portrayed as superior to guardsmen, it’s the average showing, the middle ground interpretation, and that is that CSMs are significantly above Guardsmen and the like and on par with regular SMS but with added abilities here and there.

>>532472023
>Rejects barely can fight 1 beast of nurgle, 1 shit tier demonhost and some poxwalkers

Really outing yourself with this.

>>532481121
proof?

>>532480159
greataxe is good on slayer. Try the one handed hammer for bardin it's really slept on

>>532481121
imma go plap plap on you

>>532481097
>Stat sheets are a stronger qualifier for strength
They aren't.
The stat sheets are just an abstraction and don't represent the lore accurately.

>>532482646
I can vouch for it, I saw it happen.

>>532482903
you die first

>>532483117
That's it get closer

>>532482991
What lore?

>>532483197
Lotr

>>532441056
>whenever i see 10000 gunners + shotgunners, its suddenly a whole thing
just use some combination of:
>cover
>running perpendicular
>suppression
>stagger
>applying damage
>sliding
>grenades
and you should be fine. Gunners are easy to deal with.
It's more important to have an answer to the waves of heavy melee enemies. That's where BTL is so good.

Who here gonna be playing KF3 in a few hours?
Attention grabbing booba

>>532483756
i don't want to but my friend wants to and i like friendship so i'm torn

>>532483756
you'd have to pay me to play this piece of shit

>>532483892
shill them abiotic factor

>Check shop
>Cranial augmentics in all the slots
??????

>>532441056
>bugged
Okay, this is the first time I saw anything about that. Are all the red nodes bugged, or just the ones where it says bugged? How bad are they bugged?

>>532484095
The one that says bugged simply doesn't register all the time. It works sometimes. It's inconsistent.

>>532478642
Both are minor enough to not matter. The difference is you get a little bit more hard CC that or effectively nothing. You don't need lower push stamina to keep your push attack combo going; you don't need better block cost to tank bosses; the minor dodge distance difference will do nothing (especially if you run the dodge talent with shield). Even when the choice doesn't matter, it's an easy one.

>>532483756
I would play it if it was free but after the beta I decided to not waste any money on it

>>532483756
Why are you so desperate to make this a thing

>>532484352
hope can drive a man mad

>>532484004
I almost want to get that mouth one for Arbites

>>532477845
>Just use the exterminator shotguns and kill everything instead of running.
Funny how I consistently get higher damage than ranged tardbites, because I'm always stuck in melee while they're spending half their time scrounging for every last scrap of ammo on the map and then likely wasting half of it on shit I was already killing in melee.
Your memecope shotguns are heinously overrated by bad players and you just admitted to being shit by giving them more value than bolt pistol, and suggesting to play a "ranged" pigger.
>b-but muh gunners
flashbanged
>sh-sh-shotgunn-
flashbanged
>RAGERS??
flashbanged
>haha, surely trapp-
BANG, instagibbed even with a bodyshot before you could even draw your shotgun.
>but anon, bosses!
laughs in puncture

>>532484637
The shotguns are fine and work perfectly well.
I use the shield as well too because it complements the loadout.

>top seller
it will be darktide all over again bros!
at first it will be jank, but over time they will fix it!!!

>>532484914
>complements
In what world? What the fuck do you do, sprint with your shield out like a retard?
Every time I run shield + shotgun I feel incredibly hobbled by both weapons having horrible run speed. Rending shotgun is just a slightly more ammo efficient bolt pistol when spamming special shells before every ammo pickup (very similar ttk on most things including bosses), zappy shotgun doesn't reliably one-tap snipers so it goes in the bin because I don't need my gun to cleave through 5 gunners when my melee does that.

Bolt pistol does everything a ranged weapon on a melee focused build (so, a good one) needs to do, and better even individually than most other options.
Combat shotguns are a very viable alternative to it. The DPS on the big ammo one is pretty gross, and the burny one kills bosses good. I think they all also one-tap trappers still. I believe they have the same speed as bolt pistol, after the recent buffs.

Imagine have to spend the rest of your life with a metal dildo in the mouth.

>>532484939
what causes a swedish nigger to act like this? Easy (you)s?

Are you fucking kidding me?
These worthless swedish retards didn't add ANY arbites cosmetics

>>532484939
Doombros...its not looking good

>>532485301
learn english

>>532485527
learn pattern recognition

>>532485383
>These worthless swedish retards
Hey don't blame the swedes for what the indians are supposed to be doing.

>>532485527
>Pig bought the dildo

>>532424571
>new feature
>text chat
was KF the lolcow of coopg games all along?

>>532485274
>What the fuck do you do, sprint with your shield out like a retard?
Yes?
I like to melee the enemies?
The shotguns work well for boss slaying and killing the occasional special.

>>532487393
>swap to bolt pistol
>sprint
>preserve speed by sliding
>swap to melee and cave some heads in
>swap back to bistol for sprinting
>rinse and repeat
Idk why this seems to be such a foreign concept to most players. This has basically been the zealot meta since the start, so everyone should have this shit baked into their muscle memory.
>inb4 all the gun piggers are doomer vetsissies who think it replaced their class

>>532487732
>but muh bolt pistol
I don't give a shit about it and don't care to use it.
I prefer the shotguns because they are cooler and are just as good.
I don't give a shit about sprint speed because I'm not an autistic zoomer.

Grim

Have we been forgotten, is it over?!

>>532487879
I bet you're the first one to start crying about rushers when someone is clearing packs one room away from you. I just sense that little bitch energy about you.

Where the heck is the new sloppa?

>cranial augment pack

who buys these

>>532477726
"Sapience" is a circular buzzword that doesn't really mean anything.
>durrr only homo sapiens can think like homo sapiens durrr

>>532484637
>laughs in puncture
16 bleed stacks from puncture doesn't even do that much damage to bosses. I don't get it why people act like Puncture does incredible damage on its own.

>>532489975
>I don't get it why people act like Puncture does incredible damage on its own.
Because it does. The amount of damage you deal at the cheap cost of just firing a bullet every couple seconds is absolutely absurd. Unless you're just raping bosses in seconds, it adds up very quickly, and nothing is stopping you from just whacking the fucker in melee and only swapping between attacks to keep stacks up.

>>532489443
You're retarded. There is a strict emotion:logic delineation between sentience and sapience. Consult a dictionary

>>532490169
unless ogryn or zealot is already attacking the boss, maxing out bleed on their own, in which case puncture does nothing

>>532490225
I just looked up the word "faggot" and found a picture of you
What's up with that?

>>532490169
It's a slow trickle of bleed damage whenever I test it out in the meat grinder, even with overall strength bonuses active. It's always seemed unremarkable for the resources/effort required unless you're meant to exploit shit like Uncanny Strike in conjunction with it to double or triple its damage.

>>532488483
>I bet you're the first one to start crying about rushers
I don't. I don't give a shit about them either and I play at my own pace.

>>532490169
Tanner, nobody cares about your bolt pistol.

1 hour 30 minutes, chaps

get hype.
Remember when we used to say "dosh"? It's the funny word for "money".
haha.

Wait killing floor 3 is ONLY 30 BUCKS?

>>532493903
are they paying me? otherwise they can keep it

Can't cancel my preorder for kf3 so I'm just not going to play it for the next 2 years. Maybe by then there will be a melee class that isn't some pussy wearing a sheisty and a weapon that isn't sci-fi weebshit

>>532494515
wdym you can't

>>532494554
PS5 doesn't allow you to cancel if you pre downloaded the game. Didn't bother checking out gameplay shit until literally 30 minutes ago since I just thought "cool, more killing floor". Its fine though, I'm not broke enough that 70 dollars will kill me

>>532495104
>pre ordering a game before seeing any gameplay
>pre ordering a coop game
>preordering on a PS5

fucking christ you are the perfect consoomer

>>532493903
pretty sure it's 40, not 30.

>>532495104
You are the reason why modern game industry is terrible.

We're the bloody Morningstar Four, or Five, doesn't matter!

>>532495171
The first 2 games were peak so I obviously trusted the developer too much. Literally put over a thousand hours into both games so I just thought I was going to get more of the same, not some dumbass hero shooter with battle passes and muh movement tech. You get what you deserve I guess

>>532495512
it happens

>>532495654
Literally the first game I've pre ordered since bf5 too. I'm just going to stop pre ordering from now on

>>532495912
better late than never

>>532495489
lol

>>532494515
>this is the kind of "people" industry catters to

>>532497046
Saw a business article just the other day trying to sell publishers on the idea that Steam is a great platform despite the cut of sales they take because you get access to retards who buy your game just to have it and then never play it

>>532497182
cynical viewpoint not without truth

>kf3 will get engoodened!
darktide hasn't even been engoodened and it's been three years

>>532497375
besides that, KF2 has always been an ok-ish game at 3dollars

No game has ever been engoodened
The first gameplay and mission you see is always respective of a final game even with 5-10 years of ongoing development
They can add new content and if you're lucky fix bugs but that first impression of gameplay is what the game will always be
If you see a alpha/beta/early access game that's not fun to play you can hard ignore it because it will never be fun in the future either

>>532497683
No man's sky and cyberpunk come to mind off the top of my head. Most battlefield games since 3 have had piss poor launches too

>>532497375
>>532497538
I like darktide, personally. Don't know why everyone is constantly bitching. KF2 was fantastic since it was always on sale, but definitely wasn't a game I'd pay full price for

>>532498351
people like to bitch

>>532498351
people bitch far too much about darktide but also fatshark brings it on themselves. they just broke a whole section of the Arbites tree just to solve a bug that helped players, and then fucked off until august. Worst part is that they already have the fix, just don't want to release it.

>>532498081
>No man's sky
Added new content for free which is better than what most games have to offer but it's still fucking boring
It became known as the original engoodening game thanks to an eceleb but the truth is that it's still not a good game
>Cyberpunk
The devs have a fixed a lot of bugs but that's the bare minimum you should expect for a full price game
The new content they added is paid of course and it sucks too
Actual dogshit game even today that had its reputation saved by an anime tie-in

What they both have in common is that people's perspective on them shifted thanks to outside influences not due to anything the games themselves have to offer

>>532498725
Cyberpunk is a great game. Idgaf about the anime.

>>532498898
you have shit taste anon

>>532499056
no u. And I don't think you've played the game.

>>532499165
I did and I regret spending my time with it

>>532499234
skill issue

>>532498725
>game ends up in a significantly better state than what it was launched in
>'it doesnt count because I subjectively don't like it.'

>>532499679
You're being too reductive anon
My point is that "engoodenings" are fake because the core of the game never changes. You can add onto the core or fix bugs but if your core gameplay is bad it will be for the game's entire lifetime

>>532499985
XIV

>>532500030
That's an interesting case. Unfortunately I'm not into MMORPGs and can't give my own take on it but from what I hear the 2.0 relaunch might have been the biggest shift in quality any live service game has ever seen
It might actually prove me wrong

>>532498351
>kf2 was fantastic
maam, why are you mad??

>>532499985
I agree that the core is usually set in stone. But sometimes it's not the core of the game that is broken. It's everything around it. Like darktide

Wanting to use the Force Greatsword is agony. I cannot make this thing work. Why the fuck can't it get Slaughterer? Reee

>>532500859
What are you having trouble with?

>>532500859
feels good to me. Whats wrong with it? Did you go full right side of the talent tree?

>>532500789
Couldn't agree more. The core of darktide has always been in pristine condition.

>>532501054
i guess you're trying to be sarcastic. Doesn't matter. This conversation is doomed because "core" means different things to different people.

>>532501314
THE CORE OF DARKTIDE IS THE SLOP STORE

>KF3 base game: 40 buckz
>KF3 season1 pass: 20 buckaroos
>KF3 Future Seasons pass: 40 dollaridoos
so if i want the full game it's 100 dolaars?

>>532501725
no

>>532501601
and in my opinion the core of darktide is the combat system, which was in place on launch.
Like I said, "core" is a vague term that means different things to different people. Learn to read.

>>532501780
yes, actually

>>532501952
it's an objective fact that the core of darktide is the slop store
it's the only part of the game that receives regular updates
it has a prominent button in the escape menu allowing you to interact with it from anywhere
everything else in the game is just meant to deliver you to the slop store at some point

>>532502163
How can someone play a game for 1000 hours without ever interacting with the core of it? Rhetorical question, don't answer it. Just think.

>As of the most recent developer post, Tripwire has announced that they will decouple perks from specialists, allowing any specialist to use any perk — a major point of community criticism.
KF3 is saved!

>>532502513
When are they fixing the inferior gunplay?

>>532502365
>no...I haven't pigged out after 1000 hours...
I don't believe you. Even if it were true, it's only a matter of time. You open the slop shop to look, don't you? That's right big fella, just keep sniffing it...get a taste...

Being mad at how others spend their money is weird

>>532502614
uuuuuuuh that's a great question and i appreciate your enthusiasm

Finally, my Fashion Meta™ has arrived

I shamelessly paid $10 for this or whatever. No more toilet seat for me!!!!!

Doomsissies? Our response?

>>532502814
t. paymaxxed findommed oinker

>another darktide event started and I didn't even notice
>no aquilas, just a frame
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

bwos...
talk me out of oinking out for the saltzpyre sets...

woah? fire? from a cannon! no way!

>>532504301
payday 3 literally could not be played at launch

>>532504909
you will never be a real saltzpyre. Only a fake imitation.

>>532504909
follow your heart, money is made to be spent, if you aren't starving and it makes you happy, buy

Can kf3 be saved or is it going down the pd3 route?

Vermintide has a more likeable cast of characters, more difficult and less forgiving gameplay, and

The only things Darktide really does better are the handful of things that are strictly necessary things that are expected to be better since it's several years newer, like graphics and sound quality and polished controls and feedback. The actual meat of the game is better in Vermintide 2, and if Vermintide 2 were the newer and higher budget game then it would be the clear winner in both regards.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

>>532503224
looks crazy cool, shame its bound to the cock and balls torture class

>another ratclick cope dropped
yeah bro we know, now go back to playing with those 3 chinese dudes in the last lobby left

>>532505818
>and polished controls and feedback.
I would disagree with those even

>>532506064
melee feedback is definitely better in darktide, sprint and slide are shit additions though

>>532506137
literally the only person on the entire planet that earnestly believes that

>>532506171
and everyone else is wrong, what's your point?

>>532506171
no i believe this too
sliding is a shit mechanic

>>532506292
not even that, its the implementation of it. It should have been on the dodge button and if you press forward it should have been on by default instead needing to sprint first. so you clunkily toggle your sprint on, than slide, than recovery frames, than you fiddle with toggle sprint its really convoluted and executed kinda bad

>>532506171
The existence of slide forever bricked ranged enemies being meaningful.

>sliding
>with zero momentum

>>532506831
Slide forever could easily be nerfed to slide sometimes. I wouldn't mind.

>videogame where you kill 2000 zombies in the span of 45 minutes perma swinging your 10 kilogramm weapon
>sliding without momentum is where i draw the line!
peak saar moment

the only weapon i can think of wielded by a human that might weigh 10 kilos is the bolter

is there an objective marker mod that makes the markers more visible? In the winter map i cant see the marker at all it being white

>>532506831
If you played this game above Uprising difficulty you would immediately know this isn't true. Ranged enemies are the greatest threat in the game.
CQC enemies and limited space won't let you slide forever, plus there is a sanity-check and timer to prevent sliding from genuinely making you invincible.

>make game where there is meant to be moments of ranged combat mixed with moments of melee combat
>it's actually just always melee o'clock because there is a maneuver you can perform to completely nullify ranged enemies
>it's sliding along the ground over and over
it's dumb
wasn't being immune to ranged fire while sliding originally a zealot only trait? changing that was pretty stupid

>>532510504
no. But also I still get hits to my toughness even while sliding around.

>>532510504
oh I forgot to add: you can't just keep dodging shooters while fighting melee...

wow anon you must have figured out something we don't, or probably you just don't play the game.

>>532478168
>>532478393
>BIGGEST
>GETS
>BIGGEST
>PILE
>OF
>AMMO

>>532478606
>>still no red weapons

Do we really need 'em?

>>532511864
yes

being a shitter is awful bros. i kinda wanna go back to playing malice just so i can do this and play literally anything else

>>532487306
Nah I'd say that's still Payday 3. KF3 will barely be in the general population's minds. Plus if anything they'll just do what happened with Payday 3, and just play the older game again because it has all the content and isn't shit.

>>532511997
Are you running all the crit talents? And +5% crit on your melee perks? Tactical Axe might be the best to do this with.

>>532497182
>steam is a great platform because its a huge market and market share > profit margin
wtf!

Back down to 6k players again

>>532513437
it has a high crit chance but its really not very easy to use. im progressing slowly but surely with bistol + chaxe because theyre both very easy to use and have high damage

also i feel like ds4 might be better than taxe

>>532515059
nooooo our game is fucking dead

uh oh

>>532515258
Holy. That's more than half of reviews positive. I think maybe kf3 I lost my will to type the rest of this messaage

>>532511997
I honestly can't remember how I did it, but my favourite play style for Weap.Spec is sword and pistol (it was probably the revolver at the time and either chainsword or power sword, though >>532513437 has a good point about the tac axe) and just swapping over to the occasional pistol shot in melee to trigger melee specialist (so slashslashslash hopefully up to 10 times if minmaxing, quick swap to pistol which now has a nice crit boost from WS, boom, swap back to melee and use Always Prepared to reload the single bullet). They're all a grind but if you get into the "Agile Engagement" headspace that one can actually flow quite quickly into your combat routine, be it with gun or blade.

>>532515059
Imagine losing to Pretty Derby

>>532515258
It being that high is honestly surprising.
Community hubs like discords for developers is easily one of the biggest mistakes for small studio game developers in history. I swear most of the shit ass changes done to kf2 would not have happened if people weren't under the illusion that they could be friends of the developers, and become quasi yes men for all of their bad choices.

>revive into flames
>bomb jumps on me
>sniper finishes me
cool game bros i think ill be taking a rather long break, peace

>>532504025
Stop the count

>>532516018
it stopped

>>532500695
Fantastic when on sale. I explicitly stated not to pay full price

>>532511997
bring a revolver and be aggressive with the switch up for gunners/shotgunners. Quantity over quality, don't worry about having max stacks just get one and blast, repeat. It will fly by

>>532485987
learn what words mean
>>532490225
bodied that freak

>>532516339
retard

>can't find match
>finally find one on heresy
>disconnected error 1088

>>532516221
i just cant stand the rounds reload with how hectic DT combat is

>>532515584
>>532515059
>DA NUMBERS DA NUMBER DA NUMBERS DA

Can I find a group of people playing the game with no issue? Then the game ain't dead, simple as.

>>532493903
>they're only charging 30 dollars for that steaming pile of shit on a plate?????
wow sounds like a killer deal

>>532516169
>fantastic
nothing about filling kloor 2 is fantastic
even your so called sales is brought down by the myriad of paid weapons and skins
>10 bucks for just one weapon
peak greedy, tripwire is scum

>>532516718
Concord wasn't dead just because people could find matches, then?
Kill yourself.

>>532498725
>No man’s sky
Was also a verifiable scam that didn’t meet any of the things they said they were going to do with it. It was even a big thing on reddit to the point where that was all anyone could ever talk about. At least DT didn’t promise the world and fail to deliver.
>that had its reputation saved by an anime tie-in
Kind of. The people who watched Sloprunners are overwhelmingly the people who bought and played and even liked it.

>>532516794
The fuck does that have to do with it? It's just people getting obsessed over numbers instead of if a game actually has a player base at all.

It's just a shit trend for autistics that care more about numbers going up and getting bigger than the smaller details of what makes a game's playerbase healthy.

odds havoc gaem
evens slumber a cucumber

>>532516705
Always Prepared helps with that. A quick double swap as you melee, poxwalkers become reload tokens.

>>532516962
Numbers going up means the game is successful, which means the game actually gets to not shut down within a year, and instead will consistently receive updates. If the numbers are low, then the company will simply not spend resources on it and will eventually sunset it. It's not rocket science

New event!

>>532517110
i dont doubt people can make it work but that doesnt make it "not cumbersome"

>>532497182
Well yeah that’s just true

>>532517206
They're just bringing crusher/mauler/rager spam from Havocs into Aurics and making them tankier
funny

>>532501725
pay up please saar we have good game here!!!

>>532494515
>>532495104
>>532495512
It’s cool man. I myself never pre order unless I’m absolutely certain the game will be solid and fun. That’s why I usually wait until like a day or two before release. Very few games can prompt me to do this though.

>>532508679
The Thunder Hammer probably weighs more. Also the plasma

>>532515584
The thing that bugs me the most about this game is that they outfits they wear aren't athletic at all.

>>532495512
>first 2 games were peak
True but most of the people working on KF1 didn't even work for most of KF2, and KF2 was actively made worse during development, going from a solid 9 to 4 with all the terrible additions such as reskinned tankier variations of existing zeds, terrible low effort maps and overpriced, poorly animated DLC weapons

>>532504909
just get it brokie

>>532516414
don’t sign your posts

>>532502814
No one did that it's just fun to point and laugh

>>532516559
>find match
>midway through
>Error 2014
Go kark yourself farkshao

>>532505907
kek
>>532507254
>>532510820
>>532511086
curious...

>>532517935
KF1 is the game that got worse with updates and KF2 got a lot better until it quickly got worse, there was a time when 2 was a really good game

>>532516018
sex with brown lolis

>>532518930
And blue ones.

>got rebreather in my arby build
>can't even tell that the special event enemies are doing anything
>just keep playing as normal, changing nothing about what I'm doing
lmao

>>532516787
Truth
>>532515716
Yeah the faux sense of community those things foster is grim. Reminds me of that Amnesia game that is by far the worst one in the series and later on they confirm they literally turned to their fucking discord for help.

bros why does every coop game end up shit on it's third iteration...

>Demonhosts are all equally strong
No, and the ones fused with the soul of host are stronger than the ones than destroy it

holy hell, someone please tell fatshark to combine the north american servers and put them in a data center in texas

>>532517176
That's not an excuse to join them in that obsession. If anything that's just accepting it, because what ARE the highest population games I wager?

Slop. Call of Duty and Fortnite.

>>532519829
>1st game
the hook
>2nd game
what should've been the 1st game
>3rd game
hubris

>>532519184
BASED

>>532520451
This is entirely irrelevant and exaggerated thinking. Numbers just need to be good enough for a game to stay alive, and they most likely won't be for KF3 soon.

>>532503224
>Not covered face or full helmet variant for veteran again

>>532511864
I mean they just balanced around the lack of this feature, but it's still a totally left out feature

>>532511864
>red weapons get added
>100 mobility grants an extra dodge
lol

>>532516718
I mean I agree the game isn't dead, but numbers for live service games are relevant in that they determine future development efforts. Darktide doing poorly numbers wise is the direct reason that development is so ass on it. they basically have cut their losses and have just a skeleton crew on it.

killing floor 3 any good?

>>532502814
People pay for child pornography, people pay for snuff films, people pay for child prostitutes etc. etc.

>>532521747
If you like chinese mobile games.

Probably Darktide would keep more active players if the shop wasn't so shit to the point of wait 1 or 2 years to get a skin available.

>>532502814
Yeah there's nothing wrong with corruption.

>>532521984
corruption is a pretty top tier fetish, I agree

>>532521147
You can already see what the stats would be like if the weapon reached 100%, from the inspect menu. There's no higher dodge count than what you get at ~50%.

is there a way to turn the tox gas effect off on the current event? shit's tanking my fps, which is weird because the normal tox gas modifier has more gas on screen but doesn't affect performance much at all

>>532502814
I don't hold buying cosmetics against individual people because at this point the damage is done, but it is a fact that the game industry would look very different today if people didn't buy the shit out of horse armor

One of the vox casters is back in the shop but it's the damaged one. Is there a visual guide to all the voxcaster cosmetics?

>>532522937
I just accept it because what am I really supposed to do about it? Break a window? Send an angry letter? Hell what does "whining louder" even do?

All I can hope for is some good drip to buy. And to the art team's credit, some of the cosmetics DO look great.

>>532509063
Good post
>>532502513
>>532504301
>>532504957
Kek

Which blessings for the arbiter shield
high voltage and opportunist? Or opportunist and hammerblow?

>>532525747
high voltage
and the toughness on hit

Bros Hulk Hogryn is fucking dead

>>532525747
High voltage and opportunist. Anything else is dog.

>>532527204
at least he leaves a lasting legacy of-
oh, he did what with his later years...?
oh...
haha

>>532527490
don't care tranner he's still larger than life, even larger than you

>>532527204
HH Brother.l

>>532524513
Stigma does change behaviour in people suspectible to social pressure, which is also the people who buy cosmetics. Shaming does work

>>532527490
He left quite the legacy even if you're into tribal internet warfare you gotta admit that much

>>532527490
I hope one day my life will have been so notable that people seethe like this about me when I die

>>532527204
>>532527818
>>532527864
>>532528520
>>532528701
I don't even care about wrestling but I liked him. Guy looked great for 71

>>532521784
nta but those people should have their human rights rescinded, be permanently incarcerated, and used exclusively for experimental drug testing.

>>532525747
High voltage and Opportunist

>>532529403
the germans did that in ww2 but nobody ended up being a big fan of it after all

>>532530032
Maybe they had a few good ideas after all

>>532530032
I think you’re confusing them with the japanese

If Scries Gaze had dmg resistance or toughness dmg reduction it would be very viable in havoc 40.

>>532532669
it does dumbass, look at the nodes before posting

>>532533703
*kisses you on the forehead*
you're so observant anon, thank you. i'm sorry for not reading nodes :(

>>532532669
You'd have to somehow find a use for 12~ish seconds of infinite peril that isn't already covered by REEE-ing into an infinitely dense horde hard enough that they all spontaneously combust. Melee psyker is powerful, but with hordes that dense I wouldn't really risk it. Even smite wants shriek just for the higher damage potential.

>>532525747
High voltage and Opportunist.
High voltage because it's extra 25% more damage always.
Opportunist because the shield doesn't have that great armor pen against carapace, even at 80% Penetration stat your Armor Damage Multiplier for carapace is only 0.67.
You don't need confident strike because arbites already shits out toughness from doing anything.

>>532534159
It pairs extremely well with purg but for havocs it's hard to play psyker without vent or bubble.

>both darktide and helldivers received patches that broke a lot of shit just recently
>both dev teams are on holiday for weeks
SWEDEN

>>532521784
I don't think the fact that they are 'paying' is what you should be mad about. This is a very weird logic you have.

>>532534159
Returning player? Shriek sucks. No one uses it anymore.

>>532535386
No, havoc player. Shriek psykers are the ones regularly approaching or breaching 2 million damage.

>>532535006
>both games run on an engine made by fatshark

>>532535006
Good thing for you then since KF3 just came out

>>532495512
>Yeah bro I'm a HUGE fan of the series, so huge I knew NOTHING about the next mainline title
Uh huh

>>532535386
>shriek sucks, no one uses it in havoc
>im hardstuck 29 btw

Hows the new Killing Floor?

>>532537704
Slop.

>>532535386
>Shriek sucks

>>532535498
>>532537590
>>532537862
samefag

>>532535386
lol

>>532537956
>I'm actually so cripplingly hardstuck that I cannot possibly fathom the very concept of shriek being useful, therefore every post who disagrees with me must be the same person

>>532535386
>gigantic cone of infinite aoe burn stacks and stagger that goes through walls
It's insane to me how objectively retardedly op something can be, and people will still go
>it sucks! if you think it's good you must play on malice! REEEE

>>532538102
Horrible edit. You didn't even line up the pixels correctly.

>>532537956
Cope. You're retarded if you think spammable CC that lets you keep burn spamming even longer and spreads more soulblaze is bad. It enables Inferno to ascend to an even higher plane of slaughter and contributes significant horde control to whatever isn't rapidly melting to fire.

>>532483149
>“YOU’RE GONNA SHOOT CUM!”

>>532535386
>being able to play around 100% peril without worrying about exploding is bad
>being able to ignite an screen full of enemies and ending the match with 2 million damage is bad
>I need a bubble to defeat enemies that can be nullified by sliding

>hardstucklet false flagging about a game mode he's too stupid to climb, on a class he's too dumb to stay alive as, and also doesn't play
Go play your ranged pigger and make those reddit posts about how overpowered chastity stance is because you haven't found out that you can slide into gunners yet.

>>532537956
what's the matter bubble psyker? afraid you'll improve?

>>532535159
Piggy, word your post differently next time and you won't have to do a gymnastic.

Why is he samefagging so hard? Shriek just sucks in havoc 40 it can't kill anything.

hey stealth vet i found a new ability for you to trash on to farm (You)s

>>532538387
This doesn't work the way you think it does in havoc 40. I suggest you stop trying to play test your builds in auric where anything can work.

What went wrong?

>>532540084
>This doesn't work the way you think it does in havoc 40
NTA but you're right, it's orders of magnitude better, because instead of setting like 12 enemies on fire in auric, you're now burning fucking 60+ of them due to increased enemy density, and because they all have more health, the faster ramp-up of burn stacks for your staff contributes even more relevant amounts of DPS compared to auric where some retard just wastes ammo to kill secure something that was already burning to death.

new event is just visual diarrhea on your screen and crusher spam btw

>>532541439
What's the reward? I guess no aquilas?

>>532540636
Same reason every new coop game fails. No content. No replayability.
Surprisingly, they "promised" to do an overhaul of the game for September.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2272540/view/536607976683733002

>>532541549
the same as always, plasteel.

>>532540636
It's a bit undercooked and lacking in content but honestly a fun game.
Not having any way or form of communication for the player in a coop game is somewhat of a dealbreaker though.

>>532540084
everything with uncapped cleave has way more value on H40 you spastic lol
you can't even larp as a H40 chad properly, why are you trying

>>532540636
>a bunch of retards who are fans of the studio got mad because "wtf, this is a game that is not like the other games they've made, this is an outrage"
>terrible player onboarding, no tutorial, gameplay mechanics like "drink from the faucet and shoot the sprinkler head to heal," first hour of gameplay gives you the impression that missions are like 30 seconds long because they literally just will not let you play a longer mission than that until you've got a few hours under your belt
>horrible aesthetics, goofy looking trash men wearing jury-rigged garbage

Unrelated to the current Psyker shit-flinging, embarrassingly i need advice to explode less on Psyker, I'm using Venting Shriek and Scrier's Gaze staff builds. I'm good enough to carry matches on Auric and pull my weight in high Havoc, but i tend to have 1-3 explodes in a match (more on a bad day) and it really feels shitty when that's enough to wipe a mission. I try to manage my peril well but when there's particularly stressful moments and there's something I need to do RIGHT NOW to stop a situation form spiraling or to save myself or a teammate from dying, i lose focus and explode. Any Advice?

>>532540636
Ridiculously small amount of content, no voice or text comms, uggo character design and zero initial interest. Thankfully steam let me refund despite having 5 hours on it.
I honestly have no clue what they were thinking.

>>532541889
>No comms
WHAT

>>532541439
ogrynchuds and lexsissies rise up

>>532541763
>shoot the sprinkler head to heal
I've got 6.5 hours in the game and this is news to me.

>>532541864
Psykers peril is a stress check only to make sure you aren't forgetting about it in high pressure situations. It's especially bad because it barely ever matters otherwise
There's no way to avoid this other than
>just play more and you'll get used to it
>play a different class without such an annoying mechanic
>install one of those mods that automatically vent but they're buggy and get you exploded 3 times a mission too

>>532542007
The very idea of the modern audience getting mad because some chud called them "the n-word" scares shareholders into sucking on their thumb.

>>532542139
in the little locked rooms where you also drink from the faucet, there is a sprinkler right at the door you can shoot

>>532541712
>doesn't kill anything
>contributes nothing
>but muh scoreboard
Nice try.

>>532542372
I guess you'll just say random shit to try and upset someone, get a better hobby my man

>>532540636
Made 1/3 of a game and then decided to ship it.

>aquilas as event rewards
never ever because the piggies who spend money on Darktide also play it a lot, so they'd naturally be the ones who could farm it the easiest. Why willingly lower your profit?

>>532541550
I think it'd be cool if Fatshark added a "Random Event" generator into all missions/maps.
Like for example in the Torrent there is that bridge you need to cross to get into the cogitator to load bad intel or into the water silo depending on the mission yiu are doing. And I think it'd be really fun if there was a random event where that bridge might collapse, making it so that you and your team needs to find another way to get over the chasm. And say you and your team sees a bridge on a loser level and then needs to descend down, cross the bridge and then climb back up.
Hell make it so that you and and your might get ambushed by a captain or a cultist champion on the de-tour routes to spice things up and to imply it that the heretics intentionally sabotaged the bridge so you'd be forces to go where the Heretics want.
But this isn't always guaranteed to happen, just something that might happen.

And just add couple of these potential events into each map/mission and the game would feel a bit fresher.

that new mod actually gave me a headache, there was just so much fucking hue of various colors on my screen

>>532542817
they had one with aquilas though

>>532541619
Fucking Lame.

>>532542469
It may be upsetting to you because that's the truth. Wow good job you set all the elites on fire and did like 1/32 of their health you go big girl! Oh but on the scoreboard you did so well, right?
It's actually hilarious how shitters don't understand how havoc 40 works, especially the modifiers like final toll. Shriek is just actively griefing. A duelling sword psyker is worth more than 4 shriek psykers.

>>532540084
lol okay, retard

>>532542838
Or if they gave you a map and different paths were randomly blocked, so you have to find different ways around. They've got all these big areas and branching paths, let me use them.

>>532543069
>duelling sword is overpowered
Yeah, no shit.

>>532542153
>>just play more and you'll get used to it
I was hoping there was a more helpful answer than that but fair enough
>>play a different class without such an annoying mechanic
ive played other classes so i actually know how to play melee at least, but i like psyker and want to be better at it
>>install one of those mods that automatically vent but they're buggy and get you exploded 3 times a mission too
i dont want a mod to play the game for me

>>532543139
try playing malice, that's when the game starts spawning demonhosts

>>532541864
Make a habit of pulling our your melee when peril management gets dicey, you'll eventually push the limit more and more. I used to run Blazing Spirit trauma staff with scriers gaze when that was extremely controversial here, so I know how to live on the edge

>>532541763
>horrible aesthetics, goofy looking trash men wearing jury-rigged garbage
I think that was a gamer incentive to grind for, because there are neat player cosmetics somewhere in the game: These look like the Cleaners from The Division for example (top tier vidya enemy faction, btw).

>>532542817
>never ever
We had them as a reward for an event during the skulls festival or whatever you want to call it. The event let you net 500 free aquilas if you completed it.
They should do more of those.

Also what fatshark needs to do more with events is add actual cosmetics into it as a reward, like a helmet or a chest piece or a backpack. Not this dumb keychain/insignia/frame shit.

>>532543424
I mean paths actually being blocked, not the path splitting and one having an optional boss on it.

>>532543458
Can you elaborate on "gets dicey?" I know I pull my melee out a lot for animation cancelling the voidstrike and voidblast staves, but i don't think that's what you meant.

>>532543139
>They've got all these big areas and branching paths, let me use them.
This is actually not really the case. Like yeah there's some areas reused for multiple maps so they have different exits, but there is no such thing as a branching path that eventually gets back on track that you just can't get to. It's all either leading to a different objective, or it's out of bounds and no geometry exists.

>>532543482
need 2 breed the one on the right

>>532540754
Don't forget that more elites means more cdr means more shrieks

>>532543424
No, anon doesn't mean the obvious "avoid daemonhost" routes.
He means like adding in more actual paths into the maps that you need to navigate through but they might be blocked or not.
Like say the clandestium gloriana had like 3 different major paths, A, B and C. But the paths aren't always open, so in 1 mission when you arrive at the map's first junction, paths A1 and C1 might be blocked so you need to go through path B1 instead.
And when you go further into the mission and arrive at the 2nd "junction" it might that paths B2 and C2 are blocked and you need to take path A2 to proceed.
And this "path layout" changes every time even if it is the same mission.

>>532543901
Based.
>the mask stays ON

>>532543069
You never played havoc

>>532541864
Play with bubble and switch between purg, trauma and voidblast between games.

>>532542220
Tbh it sounds like they're just lazy/incompetent
Does it have vote kick even?

>>532543820
Well if you're using Scriers Gaze it can lull you into a false sense of security when you're killing a lot of enemies and your peril generation slows down to a crawl, then instantly picks up again when you're not ready for it.
For those types of moments you should learn to just pull out your melee weapon, play defensively and just let peril accumulate/degrade on it's own. Instead of playing warp roulette on whether you can sneak in another attack.

>>532544449
>>532543873
Yeah, I want the different objective paths that go through reused big areas to connect to each other, instead of just going the same route with daemonhosts routing you 20 feet in a different direction sometimes. I think it would add to the replayability to make going through the same mission twice actually different.

>The hound won't trouble us now.
>The hound won't trouble us now!

>>532525747
i took impact that stack 5 times and armor pen
still feels shit

Who here playing KF3?

>>532516787
>if one person in the lobby has the weapon then everyone does
>game is full of whales
>almost always have access to the paid weapons

oh no
he doesn't know

>>532545773
Maybe you're just too fucking stupid to use the shield. High voltage and opportunist.

>>532545817
not me

>>532546016
why not impact
staggering more shit = more synergy talents (?)

>got 500 aquilas from the past event
>can't even buy any fucking skins with it, maybe a tiny weapin trinket at most

fucking great. i bet they'll make 1 event a year that drops 200 aquilas at most

fuck me for wanting some armor on ONE of my four guys

>>532546339
sir, these character portrait frames have a 900 aquila value
you are spitting on our hard work

>>532546323
Because you don't actually need to stagger for the talents to work.

>>532546449
can i have the 900 aquilas instead?

>>532546323
just take concussive

>>532546323
Concussive and also your tree gives you quite a few ways to get more impact

>>532546597
No.

>>532540636
What DIDN’T go wrong? Everything about this screamed flop. They should stick to overrated vaguely horror games

>>532546708
>>532546632
>>532546564
Meatgrinder babble, you hit maybe 20% of all headshots in real life scenario, especially when enemies arent targeting you. The club is a superb weapon at staggering with just a little bit of help which is immensely more powerful and supportive than hurr durr 25% more damage. Im not listening to you

>>532543901
>>532544525
you don’t know what xhe looks like

The plugin for the scoreboard plugin doesn't display overkill damage like the base scoreboard does. Is it just discarding that damage, or is it just adding it to the total?

>>532547034
Ok. Enjoy not doing damage I guess. I'm already stunlocking crushers without hammerblow

>>532545817
Ummmmmmmmmm………… mind telling what this is from……….?

>>532544782
When i use Scrier's Gaze I use Warp Unbound. I find losing track of the timer or greeding the timer causes a lot of my explodes. And yes, I use the timer mod. I also explode often when Scrier's Gaze or Venting Shriek are on cooldown.

>noooo your damage is low if you dont take the shitdditive node
keklemao

>>532547034
Retard.

>>532547325
Blue Archive

>>532547516
Well I've never used gameplay cheats and it's tough to give general advice, so my advice will unfortunately have to degrade to: get good.