Dark fantasy vampire themed strategy RPG where smart positioning, character synergy and timing your skills define success

>Official launch trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOKiaQfMky4

>Official site and download
https://silverandblood.moonton.com/

Current Events
>The Last Summer on Sapphire Isle - 07/17~08/07

Current Embrace
>Midsummer Eclipse - 07/17~08/07
Summertime Shadows, Lorelei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIKiN5dZHQ

>Promise in the Wind - 07/24~08/07
Twilight Tears, Fleeting Bella
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsl074YOElo

The everything you need to know guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kxtXXCGFpfhEKsXOxETxbtWzpKJkEu24nSNOLL_lXY4

Previous thread: >>531590270

Blood is the fountain of life, and the carrier of memories

Long before the dawn of the Continental Era, thirteen alchemists partook the blood of Abel—the First Martyr. Through this sacrament, they unlocked the power of memory-bound immortality. Thus, the first the first Bloodborn were born: Immortal beings who defied the natural cycle of life and death—the harbingers of calamity upon the mortal world

Over a thousand years later the Black Blood disease swept across the continent like an unrelenting tide. Mortals, infected by the deadly plague, turned into beasts, and civilizations crumbled as their people lost their humanity. Amid chaos, a boy named Noah as a heretic and sentenced to burn at the stake for his affliction. Yet, as the flames closed in, a Bloodborn girl intervenes, revealing that he may hold the key to a forgotten prophecy: the Bloodborn’s return to the moon

>>532520724
>stringy substance on the pinky finger as she moves her hand from the crotch
Holy shit

A doll is fine too

What does doll pussy feel like bros

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>>532522187
A shame the 3d model bumped her tit size

>>532522328
Thank you was looking for the old thread but it 404

>>532522187
Lewd doll joints...

>gave her a shitload of dinners
>doesn't have a bond final scene

I fucking hate this game

So... it's pretty much naked bella better than Acapella?

>>532524590
They need to lock it if you're not getting a scene reward at all

>>532524865
worst part is that is a limited summer character, how the hell doesn't she have one?

The plot of the second half of the event is some telenovela shit haha. So much amnesia and so many secret relatives — Lorelei being Van Helsing's stepsister who he forgot because of trauma induced amnesia, original human pre-fragmentation Bella being Hallon's daughter and Van Helsing's cousin, etc.

The backstory is just a telenovela crossed with Resident Evil, really.

>>532524590
Do you mean the last few entries haven't been added yet so they're locked, or that the journal entries go all the way to 10 but are all text only? First is just a matter of time (probably waiting until the end of the event for the final entries, honestly), second would be a tragedy.

>>532526181
I get the plot overall but can't help but realize that it is a mess, the story itself is decent but they could have done it in a better way

>>532526447
All the way to 10 and and all are text only.
Bella swimsuit I'm talking about btw.

Although to be fair her very first entry contains a short video

So everyone was a puppet?

Wait how does it make sense having Noah help Bella defeat Noah? Also why is Empousa in his team when she was left home

>>532529314
Everyone was going to be a puppet in the sense that they were going to be controlled and subservient to Joyce. The actual bodies seem to be corpses with memories implanted into them if I understood the scene with the Goldland lookalike correctly. Seems to have something to do with how Joyce was able to make 14+ Bellas even without blood and why Albrecht was meeting with Joyce

The presentation makes the scenes very confusing, I would prefer sprites or even portraits like FGO

>>532522328
>SABSUMMER
You're the best

Noah you're not beating those gay allegations; leaves Bella, Ami, and Selene to rescue his "best friend"

>>532539632
Bros before hoes

>>532529005
Fuck, that sucks. It always feels like a bit of a waste when they put the actual scene with dialogue choices and stuff at earlier Bond rather than as a cool finale. Makes it feel really anticlimactic. Was an issue for Starry Eyed Aiona and Lamia as well — the final entry for both ended up as a bit of a "that's it?"

Us too Empousa, us too. Maybe we'll get it next year with your sister

Fully Bella'd up Van Helsing is quite a sight to behold. I think the ramp is too long to push story effectively but for raids, he should be fantastic. Also I have the feeling Sirene and TNoah work really damn well with BikiniBella as well, Sirene seems to scale crazy well with attack speed.

>>532547506
how is her healing? Will pairing her with Acapella keep your team alive?

>>532526040
This is a pump and dump cash grab, they've already gotten most of what they can easily get so now they've put a skeleton crew on it while the rest go to a new game.

>>532548290
Honestly that's a hard question to answer. Will she heal efficiently in high deficit? Fuck no. Does her heal matter in normal stages or low deficit? It seems to be the case, she seems to heal a decent amount if your tanks actually tank for a while.
At the same time, for most of the clan raid stages you didn't need healing and for the last 2, she probably doesn't work because her heal is on 2 targets only. It's a mixed bag but I expect her to perform really well in a marksman team to pump dmg into a solo raid.
Threw her into a few random stages with a basic bitch rotation and her healing numbers were consistently around double of Acappella's.

>>532547448
wasn't she allergic to sun?

Anyone has Pierra's dialogue portrait?

>>532550113
Noah can share s9me of his sun lotion if you know what i mean

>>532550057
>double of Acappella's
mmmmh, seems good enough for bosses that dont need a ton of healing

Behold! The current leaders of Bathory family! The future is bright!

>>532555497
a jew, a cat that talks with riddles, a horny teenager a troll wizard and an emo

Jeez, no worries about the future of the clan

>>532555497
I don't trust Cain

I'm stuck in 12-5 with no money to upgrade gear and no essence to level up
So I'll ask before doing anything
Can I get a better team (to push story) out of here than the first 5 vassals which is what I'm currently using?

>actually lost a Mausoleum round because the game would rather give me slots than the upgrade materials I need for the unique treasures

>>532559683
Just wait a few days to lvl up

>>532559683
That's a solid generalist team for pushing story. I'd just level up a bit. I don't think a day has passed yet where I haven't been able to go up a transfusion level or two, and I'm at 130 now, on 13-6.

who's a better tank for the Church, Theophane or Yggdrasil?

>>532559683
No, when you get stuck you wait several days leveling up stuff until the deficit is manageable.

I used Lamia/Bella/Aiona/Dalcarlo/VanHellsing/Acapella rotating depending if I needed a bit more of damage or more sustain or CC.

But there is so much you can do with stat pentaly. You won't get a better team you just have to wait, that's how this game goes

>>532563586
13-6 is genuinely the first time I've been completely stuck for more than one day. Game has been very generous with the items you pop to get more resources.

Man Yakov's JP VA did a good job, Yakov is the best character.

>>532564805
For that one I gone more agressive and used Bella/acapella/Lamia/Vanhellshing/Dalcarlo since is risky but is a dps race.

If helps you, 13-6 is way harder than 13-7 and 13-8, so once you cleared that one is a free path to the end of the chapter

Then the true wait awaits at 14-1
I've been there for a while and I'm still at 7k battle power difference.
AND 14-1 is ASS because there are 3 caster very far away you can't stun in time no matter what because they are so out of range you can't stop the nuke no matter what

Aiona with the shield can help if you get her on the first rotation of skills but you still get hit very hard so no much time left to do anything but die

>>532521986
Going to need video evidence of this

>>532566356
>if you get her on the first rotation of skills
u can preselct your skill rotation saar
little arrow at the left of screen while you position your dudes

>>532555497
Why is Limine not an elder

>>532567689
>left
actually it's on the RIGHT side of the screen lmao

>>532566356
I don't have Van Helsing but yeah, I'm at a pretty significant deficit right now, figure a few levels will fix it. At least, in addition to better equipment from fighting Sheila.
>>532567689
Holy shit. You've saved me from a lot of reloads on high deficit battles.

>>532567942
Limine was sealed.

>>532569127
In my breeding dungeon

>>532568747
>You've saved me from a lot of reloads
more then just that, it makes planning your first 2 or 3 rotations possible.

so what do we think?

>>532571131
She's great, hella buffs on basic attackers while doing off-healing like acapella. SBella + Van = easy times in Timeworn Mausoleum. Also I swear that guy is sponsored.

Hey anons, i have a small problem with the phone version and i want to fix it just in case anyone here knows. When i decided to give the game a try i installed it first on my phone and after some time i linked my gmail to it as usual but i noticed that the game registered some alien gmail i don't know about, at first i thought that it was a bug or some security feature but after installing the PC version and linking the same gmail the game registered it properly and started a fresh account which i didn't mind because i only played on my phone a few hours... so, even after uninstalling the game on my phone TWICE it stills registers that alien gmail and i just want to play with my proper account on both devices but the game is keking me, what should i do?

Felt sad we just left the lifeless doll body of Bella after beating Joyce, like i underatand VanHelsing didn't care but Noah

>>532572382
>alien
wat? As in an email you have never seen before?
Perhaps check your browser, might be logged into some gmail account, but I think on android if you click link it should just connect to the email linked to your phone

Fuck...

>>532573864
>As in an email you have never seen before?
Yes, it never happened with other games, trying to bind/unbind does nothing

>>532574972
Stay loyal to underboob nun. Reject gross English titty vampires.

>>532578712
But... but anon...
she's Eileen the Crow

>>532578806
Who?

>>532578712
>gross English titty vampire
You just described the perfect woman
>>532578806
And? That character was my early game wife, carried me through stuff!

>>532578806
Thibault's garb must be very thick if it can all of Ressa's Ressas

>>532578806
Bro can't stop rizzing the grannies

>from the free 10x
Nice

Think SBella is worth getting 4 copies of because she's such a great QOL unit with even higher impact than acapella in PVP and Timeworn if you slam her ult on Van

>>532581732
I got a Limine dupe from this

what are they feeding those puppets

vampires can't into the sun
remember that

>>532586532
Empousa is also a main character
remember that

>>532586532
the sun was fake

>>532571573
I think he is trying to get into SaB's content creation program.

>>532571573
>>532587403
He is in the content cool kids club

Cute embarrassed Hati!

>>532571573
>>532587403
He's not sponsored lol. He's trying to get into the games content creator program, which is perplexing because if EVEN he's not in the program, then who is? He's also been playing moontons other gacha game, watcher of realms (same genre), for years now. He ONLY plays those two gachas and absolutely nothing else

Is the EN Voice any good? or should I just switch to JP voice?

>>532521724 (OP)
do you guys have werewolf girls?

>>532594665
EN voices are surprisingly good, haven't tried JP get though

>Rolled a third Acappella
Okay I guess

>>532591813
I want to pat her head.

Bella handjob with her 4 arms

>>532594665
I think it's good. There are a couple annoying voices but that's true in JP as well, and in English you get consistent voice acting for longer. Most of them do a good job. Only real bad part is sometimes it doesn't match the subtitles, which might be upsetting to the autistic.
>>532581926
How is she if you don't have Helsing

>>532595673
There's a girl from a werewolf family but she's secretly not a werewolf, which is unfortunate.

>>532599250
mid

>>532601947
she still acts like a dog which is cute despite actually being a cursed, plague bearing mothwoman adopted by werewolf step dad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jvs5FUGlAM

So as it turns out, 20k deficit is impossible to overcome.

Hati Skin in the game data

New survey

Those don't sound good

Dang the event is so confusing

There are many fragments of Bella... Someday, we can deploy Bella team, 5 Bella.

lol

>>532567689
I didn't know that, thanks.
I thought there was no starting skill features

Ginokio my beloved

I see

why is he like this

>>532617408
love

>>532613135
It cant be a chink game without it being a disjointed yapfest. They are allergic to straightforward story telling.

Bella seems to solve the Clive fight, she easily solo heals the entire team as long as you do the mechanics and interrupt the charging. From 8 to 9 is another wall though, he summons wolves again and they just seem to be flat out double the power of the previous wolves and wipe everything. Still, good progress, Bella is fantastic so far.

>Mass number 7
help im getting a new copy every 20 pulls now

I wonder how this game managed to get its own general when AFK journey never got one

I'm playing both that's the reason I'm surprised, because this one is lot more new, less known but someway got a general when afk never got one

>>532630878
A few dedicated autists is all it takes to get a general going

I left my dogshit clan. Despite clan hunt ranking top 30, I feel like I could do a lot better (I was 2nd highest contributor). Do we have any vg clans for 10001? (Please say yes)

>>532631930
>Despite clan hunt ranking top 30, I feel like I could do a lot better
Yeah good luck with that. You were already within whale territory, good luck getting back in without being one yourself.

>>532633576
>whale territory
Most people in the clan were ~60K BP. Im 55k myself and came in 2nd in dmg contribution. No fucking way its whale territory. I only bought monthly and BP

what's clive gimmick?

When it reacher the part when the mist arrives and starts to summon wolves nonstop, the wolf that howls takes ages to kill but enemies won't stop spawning for almost all the fight, when Clive backs to the field there is no time left whatsoever

Im missing some way of finishing the wolves phase fast? Because is not normal. Killing the howling wolf takes too much time

>>532633890
>2nd in dmg contribution
It doesn't matter too much since anyone with T.Hati can easily hit 20-35m on hunt 1/3/5. Fighting with a proper team comp is more important.

>>532634713
You're supposed to kill the 2 howling (summoning) wolves as fast as possible. It's a DPS check. Maybe your team isn't targetting them hard enough.

So Joyce cut Bella into a bunch of different Bella puppets (fragments) with different memories (or none at all) 11 years ago in a deal to save her? And Dalcarlo picked up one and made it an elder?

>>532634713
The actual answer is just get higher BP. If you're getting fucked at the dogs, I'd wager you're around the lvl 120 range. This is the normal progression, you're supposed to be full T7 gear by the time you finish up CH15 and can move on to the final boss rotation where you'll start out with T8 and eventually move to faction T9 gear.

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What is this currency I'm getting for duplicates?

>>532586532
Moonblessed? More like Sunblessed kek

>>532615359
Bro gonna have to like, the towns only taylor is into skimpy clothing

>>532617147
So Empousa was in the island this whole time

>>532642162
>third place
>it's a spic in a wifebeater
>gives advice at lvl 36
>fucking text to speech
What the fuck, I don't even.

>>532644664
Shitty reward to buy perfect shards, gonna need 20k for a random SSR

40 pulls for bella and got no a single ssr, did 10 free pulls got Nicole and Seth

>>532646581
variance issa bitch
I went 100+ summons just getting 1 SSR, but got 11 in the last 80 pulls

>>532572942
Noah is a gayfag unfortunately

Thanks free 10 rolls

>>532649979
Yeah, i wonder why her video seems to imply that thye said goodbay at the port. More memory manipulation?

Left my shitter clan this morning and joined a new one. Good time to join one way active guilds are purging inactives.

>>532624575
I swear Wuthering Waves is the only gacha I've played that has been able to know when to keep its damn fool mouth shut and understand the importance of pacing (majority of time, there are some exceptions). All other chink gachas are like this. Limbus Company (Korean) is a bit of a yapfest but the director is so autistic about absolutely everything that it mostly works (gameplay is shit unfortunately).

>>532640825
>>532639306
I don't get killed by the wolves, simply takes a lot to kill them.
Lamia doesn't really do much damage to the howling wolves, and van hellshing always shoots to whatever is closer, which is minor wolves.

I try to focus all the skills on the howling wolf, but everything hits single target like a wet noodle. I also tried Selene (the srr one) which was very useful at the beginning on the game, but she does some really single target damage now

>>532650312
cool super pity anon

>>532656509
Yeah that means you need to level up more, you're getting DPS checked. When your characters are higher level it gets much easier

>Selene gets dissapointed Noah is not a "lone wolf" like her
Sis, he had two smoking girls next to him the first time you saw him, what made you think he is not sociable?

>>532660647
She doesn't know how to express that shes upset he isn't single

Sirene has bond scene?

>>532662319
Coming Soon

>all the 7 day inactives log in to leave guild
wow fuck this playerbase

>>532670805
why?

Finally beat Clive, feel like a complete shitter using SBella to brute force through it though

I don't plan to spend anything on this game, should I re-roll or just keep playing? How fast can you skip through the tutorial & story stuff?

>>532687595
Reroll for Transcendent Hati or Transcendent Ami and then play on easy Mode Until Chapter 10

>>532687801
Why T.Ami though, he gets Bella for free which is good enough for story mode. I think he should reroll for at least Starry Eyed Aiona at the bare minimum or SEA + Dalcarlo or Acapella since he can fill in the rest of the slots with basically any Full Moon DPS.

>>532687595
>How fast can you skip through the tutorial & story stuff?
When it comes to rerolling? The slog to complete 1-5 is probably about 10 minutes if you click through ever bit of dialogue.
While 1-4 is the tutorial roll, after 1-5 you can redeem all the free codes.
Make sure your tutorial roll actually has an ancestor and one other SSR so you know you got a good seed then confirm with all the free standard pulls you get from codes.
And don't spend gems on standard banner. Use them to get at least 1 copy of Lorelei then later get a copy of F Bella.

>>532688053
>Why T.Ami though
You really gonna wait 8 days for a tank while you get your shit pushed in by some faggot archer sniper the entire time?
T.Ami can push the frontline enemies so you can deal with the crossbow and mage fuckheads much easier and disable their Effective Range passive. Chapter 8 and 9 while you are on the boat is a slog dealing with the throwing ax men too.
Should probably also try to get lucky and get Dalcarlo from Standard Banner.

>>532687801
why is T Hati considered good?

>>532688453
Best DPS in the game

>>532687801
Trascendent are not in the tutorial roll. The turorial roll doesn't even have the entire pool of vanilla characters.
He can't reroll for those.

Unless by rerolling you mean play up until you have access to the mail gather everything then roll on the rateup and cross fingers to lose the 50/50

>>532688880
>Trascendent are not in the tutorial roll.
Anon...

>>532688405
Never had that issue and only got Bella on day 7 of 8 also most half moon attackers can deal with channelling mages, especially in story sub chapter 10. Seth would unironically give him better mileage until he gets SEA.

>>532688453
DOT Team with THati does insane damage, especially in clan hunt.

>>532687801
>>532688081
Thank you. I'll re-roll for T Hati + SSR in tutorial.

do I go for post 1-5 rolls if I only get T. Hati?

>>532689228
>DOT Team with THati does insane damage

Wait there are Dot characters who are they?

>>532688970
So, it was not intended and they fixed it? Or was intended and changed because of backlash?

On the first 2-3 days the pool was definitively a limited pool to:
Agares
Tribault
Piera
Tris
Cecia

A couple more, don't remember which, Not even the the shitters were on the pool for the tutorial roll, just a few selected characters

>>532689318
Yea, basically the hope is if you got T.Hati+, and your post 1-5 rolls quickly give you some more SSRs, you got a good seed and you can continue.

>>532689412
Sounds like a bunch of fake news to me just like the server clan bullshit, because all the SEAniggers were saying to reroll for ancestors or Aiona and Acapella.

>>532688405
Redhead shieldtard carried me easily through everything until I got Bella.

>>532689337
The team core is THati, Darcias, Agares, and you can fill the rest of the slots with Jestel/Theophane, Van/Dalcarlo, etc. but this is basically clan hunt/solo hunt only and it's pretty shit elsewhere. Everywhere else you'll be using your main team. picrel from someone in my clan running THati, Darcias, Agares, Jestel, Dalcarlo iirc.

>>532691170
>The team core is THati, Darcias, Agares

Aw hell yea just missing Agares since i got the other two for now ill try Darcias/Thati sincei wasnt really impressed with her damage but maybe im just playing her wrong

for re-rolling I have to do regedit every time, does delete account not work?

>>532691663
I used the regedit when I was rerolling, worked for me when nothing else did

>>532691663
Delete account doesnt do shit
Also make sure you got the right PC client in the off chance you need to sign in on your phone.

>>532691663
nvm, you can't even log in.
I think I made a mistake of binding a gmail account at the start, and now re-rolling as guest, when I hit bind it auto-logins into my gmail, but it says account already bound.

idk how I'm supposed to use another gmail account

>>532692156
why bother listening to us or the OP if you are gonna do your own fucking bullshit and brick your log in anyway?

Hey i got 2 of those event embraces left surely I'll get nothing after 40+10free that only got me 1 Darcia

>>532692321
Enjoy shredding through Timeworn Mausoleum, PVP, and Tomb of the Fallen assuming you have Van Helsing too.

Which girls want to fuck Noah?

Acapella, my cute wife.

>>532689318
FYI 99% of the time when you're pushing story you'll be running Bella, Acapella, and Starry Eyed Aiona

>>532692849
I think only Jestel would be against it

>>532692291
I didn't know

>>532694572
>"does delete account not work?"
>"no"
>does it anyway
you could've waited for an answer
fortunately you can just use a different google account

>>532694829
stfu

wtf i thought 200 was the lvl cap. This person is a leviathan

>>532696363
Only the characters have that cap, once you reach 200 you start to level up that thing itself instead of the five characters one by one

Is there a consensus on the summer skins? They look pure sexo, but also even more like an expensive png than other game's.

>>532710937
Pure sexo, but no ult animation and the model is tiny everywhere except for the invitation screen where it's not exactly moving around much. I wouldn't bite. Might get the Dalcarlo one purely bc it's also a cheap way to get a bunch of shards and rolls

>>532710937
I actually really like SEA and Dalcarlo's original look better. Dalcarlo's costume is alright though but I think I'll save my money for the next outfits.

>>532713515
They should at least let us zoom in on the girls 3d models

Titnun is dead right? Shes a phantom Noah is just dreaming right?

>>532720251

>>532586721
Poor Empousa, her social link isn't high enough to be relevant anymore

>>532591813
Clive couldn't tap that

>>532722561
she is his sister-daughter

>>532723302
And he left her in the hands of a terrible step-dad

>>532720251
Titnun is the spoiler for her is a few posts up

>>532723629
aka himself

>>532723302
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being Clive. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years, AND spending at least 13 years as her brother before you time travel, solely so she can go and get ravaged by Noah Nevernight. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, teaching hwr how to fight, making sure she had a healthy diet, giving her wolfsbane flowers, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the House Bathory twink that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a silver-haired man you met literally once who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who doesn't even see her as his main girl (that's Van Helsing). He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As Clive, with a sister-daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for Noah Nevernight to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

How does he do it?

Was about to try this game out it looks pretty cool
>that install size
What the fuggg
Why's it so big it's not even an open world gacha

>>532726697
Is your PC that shit you can't spare 20GB?

>>532726768
funny you mention that
>it's 25.9 gigs
>it needs 50+ free to install because I can only assume they're compressing your download and unpacking it client side
that's the ghettoest thing I've seen out of a gacha this polished

>>532691170
God I love this games art.

>>532733634
You will also need to have 90+ GB of free space each time there's an update, even if the actual update is 100 MB. The spaghetti code behind it makes the file size 3x the actual size to patch the game. I can't remember the last time I've seen code this bad in a gacha game.

>>532733634
>>532734265
When I used to play Hoyoslop even if I had enough space to install it I would always need a bit more. So it's relatively common practice. But it sounds like it's a bit more bloated than not.

3000 gems just dropped, along with a bunch of shit in the system announcements.

Speaking of Space Optimization

Animations for important story segments coming in September. They also acknowledged VA missing from chapter 12 onwards (due VA scheduling issues) and are working towards it

2D story cutscenes too for events in the future

Also Skill Reset is coming back in August

They need to add story gallery mode or something, to replay all main, event and side stories.

>>532689869
You could reroll eons for them since the tutorial pull was limited to a handful of characters. That was confirmed.

Now, it was possible to get an additional ssr vassal and that could be anyone but the strict tutorial roll vassal was from a limited pool.
That's why all the successful rerolls you see were an ssr + the target ssr.

In the tutorial roll you would get ALWAYS an SSR, from a limited pool of characters.
But then, you had the normal chances of getting an ssr on any of the other 9 rolls and that ssr could be anyone from the pool ssr or trascendent.

The limited pool affected only to that one single guaranteed ssr.

So, whenever you got ONE ssr on the tutorial roll was always from the limited pool. To get a trascendent or other SSR you had to get a proper ssr roll to get the chances

>>532736425
I don't know how to feel about this, on one hand is a "good thing" of course, but on the other hand... now?!
Like, I'm not gonna fucking play the story again to see missing lines or a couple of additional scenes. And even if I did it can change the (dissapointed) experience I had.

I would prefer if they focused on improve the future content rather than that

>>532738494
Just watch the animations on youtube. Someone will upload it. As for VA, I agree and can only hope they finish VA for chapter 15-17 fast

>>532738494
You can replay the story segments without replaying the fight

>>532739308
I know, what I mean there is no point in doing it now again just to see missing va lines.

And even if you do that littles to nothing add to the experience.

If was a bonus I wouldn't mind, but all we know putting resources there means detracting them from somewhere else

>>532736425
V. Gameplay Updates and Optimization
We recently noticed that some players found it inconvenient that Vassals with the same name could not be deployed in the same lineup. To address this, we made an adjustment in the hotfix update on 07/23. Vassals with the same name (such as Bella and Fleeting Bella) can now be deployed together in battle.
The much-anticipated [Skill Reset] event will also return this August. Please stay tuned for more details in our upcoming announcements.
In terms of gameplay optimization, we are excited to share that Quick Battle will be added to the Crucible, and the auto-clearance feature for Infinite Abyss will also arrive in August. For other features you care about, such as Tomb of the Fallen and Gauntlet, we will continue to improve them step by step to enhance your experience.

VI. Event Story Cutscenes Updates
After the Summertime Ensemble event update, we received thoughtful feedback about the event story. We're delighted that players have embraced our storytelling and cutscenes, sparking wonderful discussions about this event's narrative. Many of you have shared positive thoughts about the game's art style and suggested introducing 2D story cutscenes.
Our development team is now working to enhance the in-game story presentation, focusing on deeper story atmosphere and more expressive character emotions. We're also exploring diverse visual designs and 2D illustration options (such as AVG mode) to bring event storylines to life.
New story presentation features are coming soon. We value your feedback and suggestions as we work to improve the story experience in future updates.

>>532739535
VII. About Main Story
1. [Voice-Over Completion]
Our development team is committed to bringing you a rich, immersive story experience. Due to voice cast scheduling challenges, we haven't been able to implement all voice-over content as originally planned. This month, we have added the previously missing Japanese voice-over for Story Chapters 6 through 11, along with Japanese system voice-over for Goldland and William. Voice-over for Story Chapters 12 through 17 will be completed in upcoming versions. We appreciate your understanding and patience.

2. [New Story Animations]
We plan to introduce story animations for Story 9-8, Story 13-6, and Story 17-9 in September, enhancing these pivotal story moments with a more cinematic experience.
Above covers this issue of Letter from the Silver and Blood Team. As a token of gratitude, we have specially prepared this for you: Gift: Moon Tear ×3,000

>>532739535
what they should add first is mausolleum skip

III. Performance and Required Space Optimization
Since our launch, we have received valuable feedback about performance issues like crashes and freezes on certain devices. This month, we made significant improvements, especially fixing crash problems on iOS devices. We will continue working on optimizations, focusing on high frame rate crashes and overheating issues on iOS during specific gameplay modes.
After our recent updates, we noticed that the game's storage requirements have concerned many players. Our team is working hard to optimize the installation package. We're developing better resource cleanup features to reduce storage usage, aiming to deliver these improvements this quarter.

Is it worth getting breakthroughs for F.Bella?

Also, should I bother with T.Noah? I just got him but having no Breakthroughs pretty much makes him weaker than my other DPSes

Sirene's ult grants buffs to Marksmen. What is considered Marksmen? Ranged characters?

>>532739958
Characters with the bow icon

>>532739921
>Is it worth getting breakthroughs for F.Bella?
No.

I would say since she is limited is even less worth because your options to max her is limited.
And you just need 5 maxed, they better to be from the permanent pool

Of course, if you super love her that will give you some extra stats but as long as "worth" goes, totally not

isn't it kind of retarded to make the regular and the premium rolls cost the same?
I get spending 300 for a premium roll, but the other ones should be 100-200 each right? who in their right mind will waste 300 for a regular roll?

>>532725389
he's smooth

I still don't get if F.Bella is supposed to be Bella or another bella.

Like, we know they are like different fragments from the same being, that much the bond scene made it clear.
What I don't get is if physically F.Bella is the bella from the castle but with a different fragment of her soul in control or if is phisically another puppet.

Yakov is even more confusing, is even the same Yakov or another Yakov?

>>532522328
>(600 Moon Tears, 4 Embraces)
SAB30DAYS

Any reason to not level everyones skills to lvl4?

So those also get updated with new characters

>>532739921
>>532740629
From what I understand, getting 1 breakthrough allows you pump affinity up to 30 (dont know how true this is, perhaps max affinity scales smthing like 15-30 depending on number of breakthroughs), so its probably worth getting 1 extra copy

>>532740960
From what I understand. Different puppet body, Joyce made lots of puppets.

Yakov is the same Yakov from the castle.

They should hire AI anon to make these chibis
The ones he did were a bit cuter

>>532740737
All gachas are like this.
>>532742131
You only need 1 dupe
>>532741747
Only if you are trying to minmax but eventually everyone you use will be at level 4 skills and only your most used DPS and Enchanters will go level 5 and beyond.

>>532739921
F Bella's buffs scale off her stats so a dupe for affinity stats or having her Limit broken isn't a bad idea

what the hell Bella

>>532737474
Yeah cause currently it keeps sending you back to current story level after rewatching 1 chapter

>>532740960
Seems like she's the same Bella but with only her old memories(shard) before being taken from the island. Also as far as I understood Yakov was the same one from the castle, just following someone's(Delcarlo?) order to have Noah meet FBella, and maybe deliver the body to Lorelei.

>>532746091
I'd let her hide under my bed

>>532748192
And there are so many lore in candle stories that we can't replay.

>>532750435
Huh i didn't think about that, i just started and I've only done 3

>>532740960
The impression I got is the Fleeting Bella during the story was a different puppet with a different batch of memories. In one of Bella's bond scenes, she talks about how she's been split into a bunch of fragments and wants to reclaim them all. But then after Fleeting Bella gets fucked up, Dalcarlo collects the memory shards and gives them to normal Bella at the end to integrate. Which explains why the Fleeting Bella we summon has normal Bella's profit motive in dialogue, which event Fleeting Bella lacked (because "our" Fleeting Bella is just Normal Bella dressing up and embracing that part of her memories now that she has them). With that said, this clashes a little with Fleeting Bella's first bond scene, but that scene also makes zero sense with the ending of the story so one sort have has to just pick one or the other.

Why the hell are some of the dialogues in the event voiced but others aren't

I haven't seen a single SSR in 80 pulls.
Have they lowered the rates because of the "le daily 10-pull"?
Should I save my Regular and Perennial rolls these last 2 days of the event until they revert the rates to normal again?

>>532754231
Yeah that video message has to be a fake memory, although it would've made more appropriate than leaving her body at the ship. Noah is a bit too cold

PVP is pure cancer.
You lose most part of the time with 10k bp benefit because it takes for fucking ever to beat the other team so time just runs out.

I understand time running out means attacker lose, thats a basic pvp mechanic in pretty much everything.
But NOT when characters are pretty much unkillable

>>532756157
i got 2 bellas from the free 10 pull today, thanks for your luck bwo

Fug...

>>532756407
its dogshit, only hope is that they one day release smthing like a rta with normalized BP
But they probably wont, cause its just a mode to cater to whales

kek

>>532756157
Maybe i just did todays free 10 plus 10 from the free 3k gems and got nothing. I had better results from Blue Dawn earlier this week
>>532756407
Pvp having a time limit seems odd, if they don't wanna us to control our teams just make instant results

>>532756157
the hard pity is 60 bro, you splitting banners or something?

>>532758102
Her absence was felt through the lack of bantz throughout the event. I believe in Bathory supremacy.

>>532757325
Doesn't this ending kind of contradict itself?
Like they literally claim they can't bring back because to make bloodborns they need blood and in her case the memories are in other type of container.

Doesn't that directly contradict with her being on the embrace? I know embrace is the gacha mechanic and is like Nidorino and Nidoqueen not being able to put an egg on pokemon.

But is still an amusing detail

>>532758102
I'd say the same right back at you. Noah wasn't weak to sunlight befote and there's no proof Aiona is a vampire

>>532758420
That family is renowned for their massive blood tanks

AHHHHHHH
that scared the fuck out of me

>>532758412
80 total but 30 are from the free rolls, 30 on the regular banner since I 10-roll as soon as I get them (maybe I should stop) and 20 from Perennial.

Noah please this is getting weird

>>532758981
yea I had a similar shit happen like that, it pays out later

>>532758456
Same here like what promise

>>532758981
and I was getting SSRs left and right just a week ago. Maybe not good SSRs, maybe not the featured character, but I was getting SSRs and getting closer to limit breaks.

>>532758817
So since Joyce is a girl, do you think she has a true/different body? Can you imagine Van having another stalker

lol

seriously why is he like this

Joyce is definitely not Bella's friend... I guess Bella summoning Joyce in her ultimate is non-canon then.

>>532758456
I think it's missing a scene of Lorelei coming back to pick up/fix Bella's puppet body, either 2d drawn or 3d animated. I thought this pic was some imagination/tear hallucination at first

>>532759694
Is this on phone? If not- go to your Nvidia control panel and change the settings, since there are no real options in-game. It will look way better.

>>532759068
Is it, though?

Isaac Van Helsing should get fired, he met that heretic Noah Nevernight again and didn't kill him!

>>532756407
Skill issue. Avoid picking fights with units like bella and starry eyed aiona. Send assassins in the backlines (gilrain, hati, s. gilrain). Lose one match intentionally to the highest BP team and send two of your best teams to fight the rest.

>>532761464

>>532760539
Tsundere bf(best friend) trope

>>532756407
Should be instant fights if we're getting a time limit

>>532761818
But what if it was meant to be, the church let them meet for a reason

Is selena a wanderer? Or just obnoxious?

>>532765698
She's a poor lonely girl

I dont fucking understand how this bitch constantly keeps targeting lamia in the backline meanwhile full hp shielded friedrich is there right at the front??? Hello??? Does the starry eyed aiona ult just fucks up her targeting systems? Then why is it only lamia everytime?

>>532758456
At the end you see Dalcarlo go up to the body. Then later you see Dalcarlo meeting up with Elder Bella, and it's clear Elder Bella suddenly has Event Bella's memories. In Elder Bella's Bond scene, you find out she's been trying to collect her various fragmented memories with Dalcarlo's help.

Based on this, I can only assume the Fleeting Bella we get via embrace isn't actually an embraced vassal in-universe — instead it's just Elder Bella choosing to indulge the side of herself she discovered via reclaiming those memories now and then.

cute

>>532756407
I agree it's cancer, but mainly because it encourages doing the battles at a stupid time of day in order to minimize chances of being knocked off your perch. I've never had a PVP battle time out, though. With that said, I was only around Berserker 1 (started a couple weeks after release, pls understand) so perhaps it's rougher at higher levels. I tend to be at a substantial overall-BP disadvantage, too.

>>532771170
So little Bella's fanfiction

Post your ranks. I finished at bloodlust slayer 6 this season but somehow got 3rd in points.

If we switch clans, we don't lose our ancestral vault progress right? Also does the clan login reward reset? If so, I'll wait until I collect my next day 7 reward before joining ours.

>>532776419
You keep your progess and login doesn't reset

>>532775974
Rank 253
I only did my battles once, when I unlocked it

>roll for summer bella
>get regular bella
>twice in a row
thanks game very nice

>Dalcarlo's skin doesn't change the Ult animation
What's the fucking point... I guess I won't be getting any more skins.

>>532775974
262

Can someone tell my how my F Bella and Sirene at the back suddenly died? This fight has my full hp units randomly dying left right and center and I have no idea why. https://files.catbox.moe/5jk2h3.mp4

Joyce a shit. Its EN voice actor technically does a "good" job but I cannot fucking stand listening to the fucker.

>>532784804
These guys are being too cheap

>>532786578
Cute Bella legs

Where's the download link of all characters arts!?

What the FUCK!? It was HIM?
Okay... I definitely didn't fucking expect this...

>>532789265
You're joking right? There's no way anyone was actually surprised by this. I refuse to believe you

>>532789546
Van was surprised

>>532789546
He was fishy, but I thought he just works for the big bad out of greed or something. Didn't suspect him actually being him. Might have skipped some some clue by mistake.

Only a puppet could've been the MASTERmind

>>532740253
>Looking at my roster of Marksmen
>Selena

Yeah, I guess I can't deploy any Marksmen team anytime soon.

>>532790587
Actually I guess I'm being unfair to you. I took Bella to bond 10, and her various journal entries/scenes made it clear Joyce is a serious player and bad news.

Joyce is also a Bell Ringer.

>>532789546
I was surprised he was THE master. I knew he was evil, but I kind of assumed he worked for the mastermind, not that he was the mastermind himself

>>532794912
everyone is a bell ringer
its a pointless title

>>532793262
>>532794912
Dang. Didn't know this. I'm at chapter 11.
Until now I thought Joyce and the smaller puppets were actually Bella's creations

>>532794912
It's interesting that Joyce is behind the Ascendants, because Tris, Darcias, etc. seem more advanced than the rest of Joyce's work. Perhaps it's a matter of access to the Silver Blood

>>532786586
The JP one did a good job with him

What comp did you guys use for 14-1?
Feel like you dont need a ton of damage, so been trying comps without full moon, but my tanks are still blowing up too quickly

gonna reach mb3 with this hag before getting a copy of summer bella

>>532789546
It took me by surprise yes
I was expecting something more intimidating given the previous big bads

>>532807580
give me at least one copy
at this rate I'll have to use the selector on her

>>532807657
Joyce is cutest big bad.

>>532807580
by the way, how's far are you from breaching the wall, anon?

>>532807580
Sexo with hag now, must make more little sisters for Empousa. Oh god i love how the boobs in this game are drawn even if they're censored

>>532812157
I only have one mlb and is ami, i still have the two coffins and the shards to get duplicates

So how do I do this one?

>>532821708
your start finding creative ways to increase your bp (fragments event shop, increasing all skills to 4/ a couple to 5, etc..)
also, you dont have to kill all the mobs, I ignored the shooty guys in the back, i went smthig like spellcaster->tanks->boss

>>532821708
I just cleared that today. It's a DPS race. Just make sure you have a strong DPS and sensible rotation. Kill the middle worms because they make your ults expensive. If you have Dalcarlo she's good for that. Then basically just ignore the rest of the worms and try to kill the boss fast. If you have Lamia she's nice here, bc she fucks up the closer works while doing this, which takes a little pressure off. I did it at a BP a little above where you are right now, if you can't do it this way, just keep leveling.

Bad news is while I was told the rest of 13 is a breeze by comparison, I'm getting raped by 13-8. No idea how I'm going to get past this short of closing the BP gap more, I just see my characters getting turned into crystals and raped to death. My assassins aren't strong enough to kill the crystal-making things before that happens.

>>532692408
>PVP
How do you guarantee she uses her ult on Helsing when you can't control them?

>>532823314
I got past 13-8 by figuring which waves of crystals I could ignore and just burst the boss as much possible, phase switch saving my ass from the nuke

>>532823551
You can't, just have to hope based on her programming and your team comp but she probably uses it on Van at least 50% of the time the first time around from what I've seen which is better than running any other comp with worse win rates imo.

>>532824130
I have no clue what I'm doing in it. I kill crystals as they appear, then phase changes and suddenly I'm nuked, only 1 character remaining. No idea how anyone beats this at lower BP than I have with the same characters.

>>532825780
Yeah, I didn't understand that part either, just hit the boss more before he casts it
Think I just killed the first 2 that appeared then there everything at the boss

>>532826623
*threw everything at the boss lmao
Anyway, was in similar situation, had something around a 10k deficit, and got past it by leaving some of the crystals alive