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>>532490985>NewsVersion 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program
https://youtu.be/lT68Fo91vWk
Agent Record | Alice Thymefield
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485
Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785
>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/fFU7rj7IoLo (EN)
https://youtu.be/c4mHDmvrn4M (JP)
https://youtu.be/yV8loyeDX_M (EN)
https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP)
https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg (EN)
https://youtu.be/Oz3CTkv8AKo (JP)
https://youtu.be/DDl9QwUtLGg (EN)
https://youtu.be/PzvF1WBLibs (JP)
>Upcoming Events for 2.1https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696
All-New Program 07/16 - 09/03
Tales of Midsummer Dreams 07/17 - 09/03
Legend of the Marvelous Fish Stall 07/22 - 08/11
"En-Nah" Chess Legend 07/28 - 09/03
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 08/01 - 08/06
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 08/06 - 09/03
Ghost Ship Adventure 08/06 - 08/25
JoJo's Space Mystery 08/13 - 08/25
Failume Summer Puzzle 08/20 - 09/03
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 08/27 - 09/01
>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ21SUMMER
YUZUHAGIFT
ALICEYUZUHA
>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile
https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends
>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Bros I can see it now.....Seed drip marketing tonight....Fire.....Attack.....
Should I get Yuzuha for my Miyabi?
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>how agents masturbate
>>532535664she looks like she loves pussy and female breasts
thai/cambodian bros... stay safe...
>>532535859do you have astra?
Ellen Joe.
What do you think of her?
>>532536143I have. But she's glued to Shifu rn, unless they release a dedicated rupture support.
>>532536171Ellen Dough? She's pretty heavy
>>532535845The new main boss is electric/physical weak and fire resistant. So if Seed is actually happening he would be either of these.
>>532536237I love the haptic feedback of this. Its actually very soothing to the palm
>>532536382The thing is, I already cleared this Shiyu without her, so Idk if I really need her.
>>532536171still the prettiest face
>>532536376Magus would look better without the rainbow eyes. Just make the sight above her jaw a single, cyclopean eye.
>>532536601> Black Hair> Red Eyes> Beauty MarksUndefeated
Playable Isolde will save zzz
My wife Chinatsu will save /zzz/
https://files.catbox.moe/tcib5z.PNG
why did the chuds not care when the burnice/pulchra VAs confirmed theyre canon?
>>532536836idk why i laughed
>>532536942>Same eyesAre they related? Sarah a chimera too?
>Floor 55+ time trial tower
>All enemies kill you and two hits and you can't see their parry flashes
How the fuck even? What do you even do on these end game floors
>>532536860As simple as not using politicized flags
>>532537246Continue playing and your brain will autododge everything after some time
>>532537173I think Orphie is a chimera through experimentation. They could be related but I doubt they have the same abilities
>>532537246Bring out your 3xM6E5 whale team with Astra.
>>532536860The big culture war weirdo accounts just weren't there to direct a horde of the indonesian incels who follow them to the post
>xhe thinks the boss being Elec/Phys weak isn't just to shill Yanagi/Alice
many such cases!
>>532537301wasn't it just lesbian colors? I thought the rainbow one was for the movement
>>532537184I need more thinking zenlesses
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>>532537898That's Gerpard
I wonder if Alice would only be satisfied if she had twins
>>532537483Or just your regular yixaun
>>532537847>Same nameDo you have folders for each character?
>>532538035Alice would never do this
19 seconds. Mibibi has been dethroned...
>>532538035this artist needs to die soon
>>532538156Yeah, I have them sorted by faction too. I do the same for Genshin characters.
>>532538628My only complaint playing this team. Like how tf am I supposed to see anything
>>532538628Disable numbers
>>532538846I wish I was that organized but it takes too much effort
>>532538035>literal SEA artistyou can always tell by how degrading and unfunny the art is
I want to play ZZZ but I already did all my dailies, did my invites, did the temple, got coffee, and I don't think I can push my DA scores any higher until reset. What do bros?
I don't normally care about shipping faggotry but Alice and yuzuha seem pretty cute together.
Deranged yuriniggers still need to die though.
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>>532538628>try the wheelchair team (forma de anomaly)>mfw the rat hits ONE MILLION DAMAGE assaults by herself, ignoring the fuckhuge Ablooms from Vivian>entire team is C0W0>boss isn't even weak to physicalWho the FUCK tested this shit? Jane was sorta mid at best before, but now she's an absolute monster.
>>532539497Play Digimon world 3
>>532539896>not telling him to use the European edition with the post game contentfor shame
>>532540013Play Digimon World 2003 my bad
>yuritroon really triggered by that artist
Post more please.
>>532540321Sexual harassment
>>532539847Looks like Bibian did most of the work there
>>532536860Most people do not care about shit like this, they can hint at it all they like. Putting Yuzuha behind flags associated with troons and the mentally ill is a dogwhistle for the most insufferable type of people you can have playing or discussing the game.
We want Genshin and HSR to be the terminally online twitter user quarantine, so I do not want voice actors to invite them over to ZZZ.
>>532540508I'm pretty sure Yuzu/Vivian allows you to run any anomaly in the third slot for an instant win, similar to that video of level 1 no engine Corn decimating DA thanks to Nicole/Astra.
>half of yuzuha r34 are with wise, the other half is gangrape
>the good fanarts are with alice
Not like this...my wife is not a sex object...
Does the order of this matter? Is Hoyo themselves saying my Yi Xuan is more shit than my S-Anby?
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My schizophrenic canon wife...
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is this noticeable when disabled?
>>532541379Why donโt you try it and see for yourself huh?
Bitch ass nigga
>>532541592fuck you, i need to know what im looking for first. would rather know than blissful ignorance
>>532522985aw shit, the last time this happened in Genshin I was shot down the rabbit hole of finding 600 fucking talking radishes.
>>532536860because they are canon but its 3p
>>532539847It's all Yuzuha. Vivian doesn't buff Jane's assaults, only disorders.
>>532541379>>532541592>>532541786I didn't know what this was, but oh, it's a polygon thing
off = more triangles (visible polygons, everything 3d in videogames is made out of triangles) on circles and curves
>>532535962lighter? hugo? lycaon? ben? panda? anton?
HAHahahaHaAHAHa burnice drinks petrol!
>>532542151That doesn't look like ZZZ...
>>532542472That's why she's the BEST girl
>>532542472She drinks too much in general.
>fall asleep regretting not rolling vivian
>wake up regretting not rolling viv
>>532539659That's a very BUILT hip-waist ratio
Bros, Yuzuha popped my cherry, I finally got 9 stars
https://poal.me/u576rk
https://poal.me/u576rk
https://poal.me/u576rk
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why does she point?
>>532543646>27k with mibiby yuzu and bibianWhat the fuck are you doing. You cant be this bad
>>532543891>You can't be this badOh, you underestimate me
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>>532543719it kinda looks like.... ๊ผฌ์ง๋ค...
>>532543690What even is this
How do I redeem the "Daily Gathering Attempts : 30/30" from the temple sales stall?
>>532543719Dinosaur hands, a sign of autism. We love autistic girls here
>>532544583nigga thats not a girl thats a WOMAN
>>532543646Damn, our scores are pretty close. Except i have 24k without Miyabi.
>>532535346 (OP)>tfw you will never wake to this
>>532544724>>532544849Thanks bros, just glad to finally have 3 strong teams
>>532545080Of course I won't, who eats a poutine and yogurt with toppings at breakfast?
>>532542472she's /ourretard/
Why does EVERYONE in this game have some weird asymmetrical outfit and a rat tail hairdo or some sort of strip of cloth?
>>532545301obsoleta si no tienes Yuzuha
Posting this one again because I kek.
>use miyabi-astra against the new miasma DA boss
>barely 22k
it's over
>>532545632Post face reveal Alice
>>532546046Wow that's fucking hot
>>532545080W-why are they looking at me like that?
>>532546178>use ice team against the ice-resistant boss
>>532546289physical & ether weak
fire resistant
C2 Yuzu, c0r1 Bibian and Bane Boe. Whens the physical weak DA boss..
>>532546046this is still very cool...
but I was genuinely expecting some seriously impressive one legged very low to the ground spinny shit
>>532546062When will they release the SEED files?
>>532546958sok is a native no chance they are pink
>>532547013Well. Time to see if us USTards really did make this place worse or not.
>>532547013>Announcement for UK users: find a VPN.
>>532547013holy shit please tell me its real
4chan is saved
Chinatsu makes my chinchin atsui !
>>532547013Unfortunately they're not banning Australians, so it won't help much.
>>532547013great now ban the rest of india
>>532546958Clearly Soukaku would be some shade of blue.
>>532547013ban am*ricans next
>>532547013unreal that the bongs are getting banned before the jeets
>>532547013I read that 4chan isn't banned in china
>>532547013this is fake apparently
>>532547013Is Britain great yet?
>>532547461To be fair banning UK IPs will also ban a lot of jeets
>>532547245What did she do in the story?
>>532548152Absolutely nothing
>>532547013this isn't anywhere on the site I don't believe it without source
>>532545301>webmcutest ratto right here
>>532547013>deddicatedFake
from a meta perspective Yuzuha is more valuable than Alice right? Even if I don't have any phys dps... right?
>>532547461the bongs are banning themselves
Will alice be a stronger phys dps than Jane? By how much?
>>532548493Yes a support like Yuzuha will be more valuable in the long run, but Alice is cute too.
>a-qiang
>a-shuo
What does the a- mean
I want to fuck Jufufu so bad bros
>>532548152helped astra with her preformance kinda notreally
i need pictures of alice pointing
>4chan will be banned in my country before drip is finally revealed
>wont be able to shitpost about eos any more
>>532548738it's like -kun or -chan or -nim
Can someone explain how to play Yuzuha. I don't understand what she does.
>>532548540Having their wanted comp will be more important regardless.
Jane+Vivi+Yuzu>>>>>>Alice+options that aren't Vivi Yuzu
>>532548645Alice is super cute but I only have 150 polys
>>532549138Press E or Q then swap and hour anomaly characters do 500% more damage. ONLY anomaly characters though
>>532547013would have been more believable without the blatant spelling errors my favourite nsfw chatbot is banning UK though :(
When are we getting a morbidly obese agent
Umm Wise, why is your brown pecker so....small
you can't pleasure me with this
Yuzuha would never say this to lord phaethon
>>532549675Oh no Yuzuha, that's not Wise! Wise is white and does not have a brown pecker!!!
>>532549675Shut the fuck up
>>532549846That's a projecting cuck, not Yuzuha
>>532549675T-that's against the bro code Yuzuha!
>>532550105shrink wisepag by 50% and remove all the muscles and it would be an accurate representation of your average wisepicker
>>532550061he's just one of those guys who have a dick that is much darker than the rest of their body
how should i organize these three like in what order
am new
Are they cheaping out on poses? Old character had 5 (maybe 6) poses on level up screen but now it's just 3 for new ones.
>>532542392All males use Wise.
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>>532550132That's what a projecting cuck would say.
>>532535346 (OP)Cute girlfriends
>>532550256They had 4 and not all of them lots only had 3. Yi Xuan has 4.
>>532535962Who do you think masturbates the most?
>>532550243Still very early for it to matter but you should really split up Yuzu+Piper and Yixuan, the former are made for an Anomaly comp and Yixuan is made for a hyper comp based around supporting her and daze. Keep using the 3 of them for now as they're great to build from eventually to make their own teams
Order doesn't really matter, I'd put Yixuan after Yuzuha, that's about it
>>532550237so you're saying Wise is Asian
>>532550354>see a cute girl>instantly think about getting cucked and brown penises Calling you mentally ill is kind
>>532550243When you E with Yuzuha, you'll get a Quick Assist to the next character (Piper in your case), so you want this to be your main DPS. Your team is probably good enough for what content you're doing now, but you'll want to split up Rupture and Anomaly characters later.
>>532550498Trigger because watching from a sniper's nest for hours has to get boring as hell
>>532542472My headcanon is that Burnice was a researcher on efficient clean energy before going on a bender one day and joing a biker gang. It's the only way to explain why she is a retard savant.
>>532550243also heres my w-engines and stuff not entirely sure how this system works
also is the camera w engine good with yuzha
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belle no...
>7-week patch
something is up
a void hunter is near
ZENLESS NIGGER ZONE GODDAMN SUCKS!
FLOPPED HORRIBLY GOT ZERO TRASH SALES, NO REVENUE, NO BILLIBILLI VIEWS
YI XUAN AND VIVIAN GODDAMN FLOPPED
UTTER FLOP!!!!
ZERO RELEVANCE AND ZERO IMPORTANCE IS WHAT THE JOBBER CAST IS
EVERYONE USED TO SHILL VIVIAN
FAT XIAO APPROVED!
CALLED PHAETHON QUEST HIS MASTERPIECE!
WISE A TOTAL UTTER JOBBER WITH NO RELEVANCE AND HIS EXISTENCE IS JUST TO SIT LIKE A KEK
ZENLESS NIGGER ZONE GODDAMN FLOPPED!
ZZZ FLOPPED LIKE A WET TISSUE USED TO STROKE ON YOUR ROD!
FLOPPED SO HORRIBLY MADE DAWEI CRY!
ZZZIGGER SLURPERS!!!!
SPONSORED BY FAT XIAO'S CHEFS! DEFEND THIS SHIT!! FOR 10 PRIMOS!!!!
ZZZ FLOPPED!!
ALL BANNERS GODDAMN FLOPPED!!!
YI XUAN, MIYABI, BURNICE, TRIGGER, ALICE, YUZUHA!!
ALL FLOPPED THANKS TO PANDERING TO NIGGERS
FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP
FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP
FLOP FLOP PAG BAIT FLOPPED FLOPPED ON FAT XIAO
>>532550859don't care about discs so much until you unlock gold discs and level 60 agents. Then it's jsut picking the optimal 4 pc and 2 pc combo
>>532551192TL;DR
Cope, seethe, dilate, kys
>>532550859If you find Lucy's engine, it would be better, but it's fine for now
>>532551192Eulaposter is a wuwafag?
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whore
>>532537246You learn their moves and dodge lol
>>532551603>Benchod indian shitposter is a benchod indian shitposterwhat did you expect?
>>532549675>>532550061>>532549846>>532550132As long as Yuzuha still has sex with the Wise she's talking to, it could just be a small penis humiliation thing from a small penis self-inserting brown
it could also be a weird AGP tranny posting their small penis humiliation and browncel shaming fetish
>>532551668Her asymmetrical eye colors greatly disturb me.
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I love ass
>>532552271theres no ass on ur pic
>>532552187>apologizing to the people raging at her over "lesbian representation">essentially in their minds saying she's only not deleting it to avoid offending themnow it's going to flip and all the dykes and twitter troons are going to dogpile her instead of who has been
They're gonna turn Seed into some shitty Firefly clone and she's gonna flop so hard ZZZ will never recover again. They will blame those who asked for robots and go back to releasing generic hags.
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When is idol beta testing
>>532552436>>532552716does anybody see like a hot ripe pussy or pristine anime girl ass and asshole and just wanna do oral stuff to it like lick it and eat it like a peach and just fucking slurp slurp, and sniff it and really huff huff inhale it and just hump her fucking calves or something, like I could make my cock cum from anything I don't even want to properly fuck all that much, it takes a while for that need to breed to get locked in I guess I have this intense oral and sensual fixation, I wanna lick, I wanna taste, I wanna inhale Jane or Alice's pristine wet musky pussy and ass like that sounds fucking divine dude I'm just a pig I wanna root around in girl-slop, penis in vagina shit is boring me I'd rather Jenna steps on my dick and lets me lick her holes till I cum, we can fuck later sure and I'll like it when it happens, but that's way more appealing
her pits too, sweaty saucy soft wet hot smelly girl armpits
actually just Jane or Alice jerking me off from totally soft to aching, throbbing, leaking (wouldn't take long) to cumming (the initial sensation of a girl first tentatively gripping your cock... that's as good as anything else honestly like how she fucking grabs it and starts to work it to "wake it up") while she tongue kisses me, standing or sitting whichever, I would totally go for that too, would be fucking incredible, kissing is also S tier, like tongue kissing for me is as good as regular sex if not better
bibian's ass too, just gonna mwaaaah sniffff sniff huff lick lick mlem mlem schlorp schlorp sclohrp UNFFF!
>>532552271my ass is bigger than that bro that's nothing that's a small hill at best
>>532552903I'll never forgive wise for being a raging faggot and not marrying bibi already
>>532552940Can I see? F-for comparison only, I swear.
>>532552973its because hes not the canon mc and belle is straight
>>532552973he's literally already Miyabi's canonical fiance
I feel sorry for her but Bibian was like 2 patches too late
>>532553131belle is not canon
>>532553213it's the same dialogue for both retard
>>532553330doesn't matter
I get the feeling that wise is canon and my gut is never wrong
>>532553402wise canon makes no sense because hes a fruity antisocial faggot while belle is the social one who would believably befriend all the agents
>>532553402i have a gut feeling that belle is the mc and im luckier than you
>>532553402oh yeah and the amount of (you) pandering in this game makes it absolutely obvious that they're talking about a male mc unless you're some globohomo retard which thinks that every single one is gay
>>532553550wise mc lets venus take a kick for him and lets komano save him lmao
>>532553550belle is an annoying zoomer retard wdym, most people dislike people like that, they're just humoring her to not hurt her feelings, Wise is the quiet but dependable friend type that most people get along with, especially considering you meet most of the agents in a professional setting and Wise is great at his job, you're just projecting your own faggotry, of course someone as lame as you would think that being a marvel quip spamming loud retard would get you friends kek
When is idols and when is bunny cunny? How long do I have to save, that's all I care about
>>532553594the (you) pandering is mostly headcanon from platonic interactions
>>532553739wise is a nobody fence sitter with less personality than milk belle is way more fun than wise is and seems to be a more genuine and approachable person wise acts like a freak but keep seething
>>532553857t. speedreader
>>532553821I think Bunny will come before the void hunter and chinese new year is after the void hunter.
Chinese new year will coincide with 2.6 so Bunny will be 2.4 and idols will be 2.3.
>>532553102what does furry full thieren sand-cat pussy and ass smell like when she's completely aroused and holding it an inch above your nose and mouth and if she moves even a little your face is gonna be all sticky???
does it smell like a zoo
>>532553954you're extremelly mentally ill and projecting your own social ineptitude on wise kek, he's a competent proxy that's good at his job and runs his own business not a loser like you, calm down
>>532553739That's not even remotely close to being true. You have no idea what you're talking about, are you autistic?
>>532553857>Vivian proposing in the main quest>Caesar's cinema dialogue>S11's 1.5 dialogue and final trust event>literally anything out of Trigger or Lycaon's mouth
>>532553391this is exaCTLY WHAT I MEAN
I WANNA BE SMOTHERED BY THIS PERFECTLY SOFT ASS AND HUFF HUFF HUFF AND CHEW THROUGH THE SEAM OF HER PANTY HOSE TO GET TO THE RIPE JUICY TREAT INSIDE rARRGGHHG
>>532554084Alright thanks
>>532554181you have never spoken to anyone wise is completely unrelatable in any way but keep yapping mongoloid
I don't understand why people argue about "canon"
>>532553857Do yuri/shippingtroons really believe this
Lycaon and Hugo are for each other only
>>532554189its all true you just have no friends
the mere fact that you autists don't notice the (you) pandering in like half of the char stories is proof enough you have no brain just autistically left clicking through the whole game
>>532553402The biggest evidence to this is really the incident early on where Wise had to save Belle, but I still think the siblings share the MC role even if Wise is given a slight edge.
Both of them still travel together and are equally capable of piloting Eous and sitting in the second chair. I like to think they swap who helps which faction.
I will be upset if idols dont get a cute skin, like reverse bunny suit for them
>>532554412reverse bunny suit is more funny than cute
>>532554306kek keep fantasizing aspie
>>532554353You really are a dumb fucking autist kek. You're incapable of interpreting the character's basic feelings, that's why you immediately jump to pandering
>>532554350The only couple that doesn't end up slobbering MC's cock together
>>532554476you are literally socially illiterate and started this shit off by seething cope harder please im very bored
>>532553134Same as Lucys
TOPS war over your dick soon
>>532554608i really struggle to notice the cause of your tard rage, is it because you picked belle and are pissed because you know its not the "canon" choice? but either way its so painfully obvious that the character stories at least are written with pandering to the male mc in mind that you have to be a drooling 50 IQ trog to not get it, well done on being that retarded
>>532554747I didn't start shit just noticed that you're projecting your sad loser life onto wise while it's not like that at all in the context of the story, its pathetic
>>532554412yutane will get a bangboo mascot suit so people don't see her real robot form
>>532555002no
Yutane will be the new Officer Mewmew (Ben Bigger was already the temporary Officer Mewmew) and wear the Mewmew suit outside of holos
Yes I'm balding. Yes I'm obese. And yes I rolled Ju Fufu. We exist.
>>532552903Personally I only lick anuses of girls that deserve it
>>532554941unlike you i see neither character as me they are both unique and their own characters but belle is so clearly the more likeable socially capable character and therefore more interesting as the canon mc wise is a nothing character for fags like you that need to insert themselves into a role to enjoy a good game btw whats your battle tower stats lookin like?
>>532555154No I'm not balding I have a very normal and healthy hairline for my age I'm just greying. No I'm not obese I just have a belly from drinking too much. And yes I decided I'd try spending only 30 pulls on Jufufu and got her in 28. We exist.
>>532554787I'm just making fun of a drooling retard who genuinely sits and reads platonic interactions and somehow arrives at the conclusion that the characters are genuinely in love with you. Wise's character is devoid of charisma and social skills, it's simply illogical for him to be the MC. When they are both equally capable as proxies, there is no reason to assume Wise would be the social butterfly instead of, you know, THE SOCIAL BUTTERFLY. You can't see it because you picked him, and escaping reality by pretending to be him makes you feel better. It makes no sense to say the story is written to be pandering to the male MC, since it's all literally written for both MCs and the majority of the dialogue plays out the same way with the exception of a few tweaks here and there.
You genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and it's hilarious seeing you getting backed into a corner because you have a "gut feeling" (whatever the that means) and is too stubborn to use youtube to see belle's interactions
>>532554148She is like a human down there
>>532555285Jane, Alice, Miyabi and Vivian definitely deserve my tongue wriggling in their sweaty assholes like an eel trying to get into a deep sea cave. Jufufu also deserves it and would probably be the cleanest, best pleasure.
>>532552903Belle get out of 4chan
Who should be THE Herta of ZZZ?
>>532555403even assuming your autistic take on the characters' personalities is correct (it's not), doesn't change the fact that the game is clearly written with a male MC in mind, again, play half the agent stories and its immediately painfully obvious, i suggest reading a fucking children's book if you can't even comprehend the intent behind pg12 gacha writing, holy shit, then work your way up to dostoevsky or something
>>532555543>tard babbling just repeating shit that the other retard saidkek
>>532535962who can orgasm from boobs and nipple stimulation alone?
>>532555710Some future bangboo builder
>>532550498The biker girls
>>532555759this is what happens when you self insert too hard
>>532555759>i know the name of a random literary great ill just drop that to prove how smort and awesome i am
>>532555403How assblasted were you over Astra canonically confirming her date with Wise
>>532555543>>532555759by the way talking about how "the majority of the dialogue plays out the same way" while talking about dialogue meant to pander to a male character just further proves how retarded you are and that belle's dialogue is just an afterthought for the troons and women to have a playable char
>>532552903BASED BASED BASED
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post it while you still can
>>532555974how ass blasted were you with yuzu and alice holding hands as romantically as possible on a summer beach while fireworks went off above them?
>>532556130>belle dickrider is a yuri-troonAHAHAHAHAHHA
ywnbaw
I need to see Belle's butthole, for sister inspection day
>>532556130>yuzu and alice holding hands as [headcanon]Enjoy your own delusions, probably best to keep them in your head though
>>532554350Don't play ZZZ, what's going on with Belle here?
>>532555543>devoid of charisma and social skillsWise is incredibly capable, known to all those he interacts with as a legend, the best proxy alive (along with Belle). He's intelligent and measured in what he says, stoic. He's respectful and will do anything for his friends but isn't a spineless doormat (except simping for Astra, a shitty Chinese pop star pandering thing, and calling Shifu the greatest, more China pandering). He's cool as fuck under pressure when the police are about to send him and belle to pound me in the ass prison (Belle is a shaking mess). He's not a gigachad or twink but is objectively attractive in a plain way. He's not jacked but isn't skinny fat either and has abs and looks good in a swimsuit. He has autism rizz where he'll simply say what he thinks clearly and without hesitation; instead of being awkward he comes off as straight forward, confident, and most of all genuine, he's not trying to run a game on any of the literal 10/10 girls he interacts with daily.
That's another thing too, girls are all incredibly social minded. A man wearing a wedding ring is instantly seen as more appealing to single women because it shows another woman was willing to vouch for him ultimately. The fact he is constantly surrounded by other beautiful women who rely on him and will speak endlessly of the crazy capable things he's done for them, and even by several men of various backgrounds who are incredibly professional like Lycaon and will vouch for him, or who will gladly call him their bro, is also a massive buff.
>>532556378She is high on ether.
>>532556187so, very, got it
>>532556378she's using her rinnegan to kill a huge monster
When Yuzu and Alice were holding hands I was holding hands with the loli idol desu
is this like nikke where i can brick my progression if i just build blindly
>>532556032this is the type of tweaking i'm talking about, dumb fuck
>>532556350>posts headcanon interpretation of friends socializing my goodness how will i ever recover from someone being happy at a compliment
>>532556632>gets shy and ears wiggling from Wise's reaction>headcanonLMAO, here's your friends (Yuzuha and Alice) socializing with each other
>>532556378the twins you play as deep dive into the virtual reality shit/control their little mascot robot through augmented reality in Hollows using special lenses that are pseudo-prosthetic or something and have a failure rate and give people headaches and irritation after overuse. And the twin protags also have a mysterious past that none of us really know the full details of that suggests they're somehow more than human as well. In one scene they create some sort of magic shield to protect themselves from an explosion 2 feet in front of them and their eyes light up when they do.
Why can't people just enjoy their own headcanon instead of arguing like monkeys
Nothing will ever get confirmed anyway
>>532556751lmao cope harder tho
Intern-kun worked so hard to come up with these
anyone else notice the new movie posters?
>>532556563I don't know how hard you can actually brick but I think the biggest risk of that is probably wasting your frontloaded free to play pulls on garbage, spending free polychromes on standard banner pulls would be idiotic tier full brick wasteful (only ever spend poychromes on encrypted tapes aka limited banner pulls), and maybe wasting your free Gold Tuning Discs on garbage disc drives. That could dig you in an unpleasant hole maybe.
But no generally not really.
>>532557019What's there to cope about? Both pander to the MC and all you've got is 2 highschool friends holding hands during a scene and a shit load of headcanon.
Even Astralyn had at least double the substance behind the shipping, before it crashed and burned
>>532557018Defeating my enemies on the internet is very important to me.
Please understand.
>>532555710The Billy Kid.
Smell a little wormy in here
>>532555710Fairy, but as playable character.
>>532556449The issue here anon, is that this is sort of a reverse self insertion of Wise. Basically who you're arguing with inserts as Wise because he's a loser and therefore did not pick him because he cannot separate himself from the medium.
It's why a lot of female self inserters also hate male banners, they cannot stand the idea of being inferior themselves and insert as an inferior male while abandoning that persona to be a woman.
It's kinda fascinating, I don't know if this is a SEA or Indian thing but it's common amongst shitposters.
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God I love Belle
>>532555710Sarah I guess? I don't think we have any other serial jobbers yet
>>532556449> Wise is incredibly capableAren't they both equally capable depending on who are you playing tho?
>>532557467you're 10x a bigger loser than wise the guy runs his own business, raises his retarded autistic zoomer sister after his parents' death and meanwhile does some illegal shit as a proxy as a side hussle
>>532557274you have not a single scene where they hold wise or even touch him all you have is some words where they are more clearly divided as friends than anything else yuzuha literally sacrificed herself for alice when they are reunited after yuzu is dropped off a cliff she doesnt even look at kama her closest companion she goes straight to alice not belle not wise not fucking kamano, alice you have nothing all headcanon there is nothing for you to latch onto other than compliments and some friendly scenes you latching to a fucking compliment and acting coy about looks compliments is actually hysterical go get yourself checked out
I love my fat whore wife Yixuan. I would do anything for her.
Astra going on a date with Wise doesn't make sense with Belle MC btw.
There's an argument happening here between multiple people debating whether or not two girls in the fictional gatcha game Zenless Zone Zero are lesbians.
>>532557826they both got their own dates
>>532557748Notice how you love to babble and make shit up because all you've got to work with is 2 highschool friends that held hands when all I'm showing you is in-game dialogue and interactions
You lost, yuritroon
>>532557748Why would Yuzuha goes to Belle/Wise when they literally just met few days ago during that scene? Maybe play the trust events next time, that's where Yuzuha gets close and open up with (you).
When I think about the factions, the only one I wish was better is Mockingbird. Not because I dislike Hugo and Vivian per se, it's that it currently feels like it's an extension of VH instead of its own unique group.
>>532557898not only that, the way she acts carefree in both MVs just further proves it was completely platonic. Like the aloof carefree girl she with all the important people in her life, Eve Wise and Belle.
>>532558124are there even other mocking bird-ites? i thought it was just hugo and vivi if so a 2man faction is silly
After this whole argument I guess Wise is the canon mc after all and Belletroon was mindbroken with facts and logic
Embarrasing
>>532558124They need someone else I feel.
After this whole argument it's obvious the Wisefag is just self inserting while ignoring how the game treats its characters
Pathetic
>>532554329>this is platonic according to yuritroon
>>532557826>>532557898>>532558151isn't the wording of the interaction with Miyabi regarding the protag becoming "part of her family" literally different and more explicitly saying Wise will be her fiance will Belle will "have her family name" or something?
>>532558207anon you can manually play as Belle (and literally any agent you own) whenever you're walking around
>>532535967...on opposite day
>>532558124Mockingbird is a dead faction. What do they even do now that they're story is over?
>>532558124>>532558185Theyโre both fillers in a filler patch, what did you expect
>>532558367>last ditch grasping at straws attempt to save face after displaying his mental illness kek, you are literally too retarded to read dialgue in a pg12 gacha game, if your parents ever let you out of the basement you won't be able to work a job, get a grip
>>532558425It sucks because you switch to wise/belle when doing literally anything and i hate that.
>>532556751I don't understand people who post these "friends" texts as some kind of gotcha.
Of fucking course they're going to call other characters their friends. There will never be any confirmed relationships between characters, including with the MC.
>>532558406Belle has the exact same interaction. Does she want to fuck Belle too?
>>532557735No need for a personal insult when I never said Wise was a loser. It's also completely baseless since I don't spend my life seething about men on a 4chan general.
>>532558425But not stare at her bent over butt while fishing, that switches back to wise (assuming).
>>532558550Yes. Every ZZZ char is bisex.
>>532558495We can tell you're getting desperate after getting dismantled
What 4pc should Yuzu have? I've seen people claim Proto Punk is the most consistent since Swing Jazz requires stun (which anomaly doesn't do).
>>532558560your buddy in the thread with the exact same arguments (i guess minus that) which is also a belle picker yuritroon did though and its so obvious hes projecting himself onto wise, also its obvious that yuritroon transbians would think that there's no pandering in the dialogue because their illness doesn't let them see it, but that's clearly the author's intention no matter how well or poorly its executed (and remember this is a pg13 game where they can't show relationship shit due to gacha dynamics + china)
>>532557863all according to the CCP satanic plan
if you rolled yuzuha you are the proud owner of a sapphic icon
congratulations
>>532558124yeah because Lycaon and Hugo are cute and canon
>>532558504Yuritroons love playing that game so they simply get it shoved back in their face.
Notice how nobody cares if you simply just post yuri pics you enjoy without feeling the need to shitstir or pretend your headcanon is canon, but that's simply impossible to these troons
>>532558124no shit
Vivian and Hugo the only two don't even fucking interact
it's so fucking soulless
>>532558005man you really were mind broken by the yuritroons to think that shows shit
>>532558774My point was instead that the people you were arguing with do actually insert as Wise, but they see him as a loser (when he's not) and it's why they're so toxic and abusive to him and males in general. They picked Belle because they see her as better than they are but still insert as "Wise the loser with no charisma" as they put it.
See what I'm saying? Most stable people would not be this violently aggressive towards men in a game like this unless they were grappling with severe insecurity issues.
>>532557751Shishou is pure
Yuzuha: I love pussy and female breasts
>>532557751what makes her a whore? she's still a fucking virgin for gods sake
>>532558997this is how i know ur mentally illgo outside go talk to people
>>532557646I'd take that bait
>>532558957Good thing I kept saying how they both pander to the MC
>>532557274I wonder why yuritrannies don't simply use Belle for their ships who gets just as much pandering as Wise most the time
>>532559197>she's still a fucking virgin... Shifu is like 35 years old....
Big if true.
>>532558997I don't fuckin' self insert as Wise, I just don't think he's a bad character nor is he a loser, and the author intent is 1000% for him to be the canon pick, ZZZ has a lot of coom pandering unlike genshin which is completely sexless (idk about HSR I don't play slop), none of that makes sense with a female mc absolutely none of it, its a 2nd option for transbians, coomers and the 15-20% women that play (might be lower in ZZZs case) that's it
he's literally projecting his loser personality irl onto wise when that's not the case at all, it's retarded
>>532542472When is her rerun?
>>532558746Next patch, wear whatever as a cope until then
>>532559390She admits several times that she hasn't hooked up with anyone and has no experience at all with the opposite sex. She's a complete battle autist.
>>532559397it's funny how projecting and personal insults is the only thing left for you since you got completely embarrassed by simple arguments
>>532559284because yuzuxalice has way more pandering than yuzuxmc/alicexmc are you retarded?
>>532559259>ur mentally ill for exposing how 4chan shitposters are self loathing failures who ruin all discussion with deep rooted insecurity issueslmao
lol
I make more money than you and go outside regularly.
Remember when /zzz/ was fun
>>532559608i had a lot of fun actually, i got a bunch of stuff out of my system
>>532559524>way more panderingYou mean the one picture you've got of 2 highschool friends holding hands? Sure is a lot more compared to all the pandering the MC is getting.
Funniest thing is if Yuzuha and Alice had even a single dialogue like this you'd be clinging to it and spamming it daily for the next year
>>532559518nta but you're a moron who was completely btfo and now you're just flailing like a 12 year old looking for a win.
Sit the fuck down troon and go back to being yuzuhalice drone or some shit. Absolutely pathetic.
There is no yuri pandering here. It's basic girl friendship shit you see in tons on manga/anime. Of course you can squint and see yuri but it's not overt.
Astra and Evelyn was legitimate yuri pandering.
>>532560034>still up>over 30k likes>not firedChuds lost
>>532559606kot needs to bless my account so I can enjoy her shoving her butt on the wipeout camera
>>532559878zzz is chinese
Why do some all-girls games have barely any yuritroonery while Hoyo games can just make them lose their minds by having two female characters talk?
>>532559878Because a lot of comedic gags are based on two people acting attracted to the same gender. The classic pretty boy and handsome girl tropes, same gender bathhouse scenes, etc etc.
And the funny thing is that a lot of the characters in these scenes never fully write off their attraction, even if they end up with the opposite gender in the end.
>>532560038>Astra and Evelyn was legitimate yuri panderingIt was so much more ambiguous than whatever the fuck Yuzuha and Alice situation is they're trying to push. Even then, you take one look at the PV, trust events, birthday date in the story, cinema, etc and it becomes extremely apparent that she's MC-sexual
>>532560015>my thick smelly NEET chode cock that leaks precum constantly would be the first and last penis to ever touch this pretty faceh-holy shit.....
>>532560029btfo'd by dumb fucks like you who can only do personal insults and go "hurr hurr he's literally so cool actually?" shut the fuck up dumb cunt
>how do we make alice's complete dogshit design sell
>make her a lesbo
>yes this well definitely help
Why is there always something retarded going on here?
>>532560038what is it with meta supports and being lesbians?
this it dawei's master plan to re-yurify mihoyo?
>>532560339A lot of people seem to forget that Hoyo has its roots in yuri.
>>532560368>Astra and Evelyn was legitimate yuri pandering>It was so much more ambiguous than whatever the fuck Yuzuha and Alice situation is they're trying to pushnigga what the fuck are you talking about, who is trying to push what? because I don't like yuri pandering and I don't truly believe that Astra/Eve is meant to be straight 100% confirmed yuri shit, but Eve's entire character demo and literally fucking living with Astra and having an entire change of life because of Astra learning to cook for her and all that shit is pretty heavy on the "Eve is lesbian or bisexual leaning lesbian for Astra" to the point it makes me cringe. Unrequited dyke shit. Yuzuha and Alice are just two girls who are school friends.
>>532552424you have a very poor understanding of the people you hate
Yuzuha pranking Alice by tying her down and watching as I rape her.
>>532560689Hence why I said it was so much more ambiguous but fell flat in the end because of how unapologetically MC sexual Astra was
>oh we've met Alice before cause of lucy
Guys...
was i supposed to do the summer event before the main story?
I fell for this shit with Anby i hope i didn't fall for it again.
>>532556801Thanks. This sounds cool. Does anyone got the scene of the MC doing this?
>>532560675Classic anime and weeb shit was always largely centered around yuri pandering. In modern times, you can look at Hololive and see how it's centered around yuri pandering too. What companies are still catching up to and realizing is that (You) pandering is what most people *actually* want if the medium allows it.
>>532560824No, the summer event is after the main story. At the start of the main story, Alice and Yuzuha haven't even met once.
>>532560408You're a massive mentally ill clown and this thread exposed you for the retard that you are. You canโt even come up with a proper response, so you deflect about some imaginary insults like a brain-dead cope, how cute. Do us a favor and kill yourself.
just me my wife and victoria housekeeping
>>532560861https://youtu.be/pvtpKfTSEr0?t=38
explosion at 38 seconds
>>532560985Fuck. Thank you.
What about the fishing event? is that before or after? I should have specified that i meant that as the game tells you not to do the summer event first.
>>532561036kek I can literally smell the seethe and heavy breathing through this post
>>532560960>if the medium allows itBut they do allow it though
You have gachas like Wuwa, BA, Nikke, Browndust, Snowbreak, etc.
I don't know why you think the medium doesn't allow it
>>532560360>>532560038Has no one ever had a close bond to a male friend that you've hugged them? Do zoomers just not understand close relationships anymore and have to make it so they're fucking?
>>532560558I'm thinking 4chan in general is unfit for discussion anymore. The opinions that get posted here have become as milquetoast as those on reddit and xitter, while shitposters and jeets with nothing to their lives are working overtime to destroy every thread and hobby discussion because they know janny won't do shit and moderation doesn't exist
>>532552187I feel bad about liking the comments criticizing her and went through the effort of unliking all of them. Itโs not her fault for being raised in a world where mental illness flags didnโt exist yet. If I would give my mom a trans flag sheโd think itโs a blanket for a baby.
>>532561148The old fishing event is kind of relevant to the summer event but it really doesn't matter that much.
>>532561036try not to pop a vein with that much coping and seething. We can tell you take self inserting very seriously, so much so, you can't fathom not seeing every little interaction as pandering
How do yumes handle sharing space with obsessive fujos? Are fujos worse than the yurifags?
>>532561041>Nishizono ChigusaEYYYYYYYYYY
>>532561190I was suggesting that Hoyo's gacha may have been more oriented towards yuri pandering than (you) pandering because they came earlier and the company hadn't yet caught on internally. My point was MOST anime has roots in yuri.
>>532561271I agree but also don't blame anyone that went off on her. We've had EN VA's do similar shit like this and push their headcanon onto characters. Extremely unprofessional and just poor behaviour. If you can't help yourself simply do it on an alt account.
Troons ate that shit up too and felt completely validated including the yurischizo itt
>>532561302fucking thank you man.
the MOMENT they started talking like we already met i assumed the worst. Like Trigger levels of holy shit.
Thank god.
>>532560824You haven't met Alice before. Lucy told Alice about you and Alice recognizes you after you introduce yourself.
>>532559397>and the author intent is 1000% for him to be the canon pick, ZZZ has a lot of coom panderinggive me a real example of coom pandering that would explain that "1000% male mc" logic. I agree that ZZZ has a ton of coom pandering, but that's for US the players, not the MC. There is nothing in the writing that suggests it's 1000% meant for the male MC
>>532556801they really need dig deeper on how far humanity has been able to manipulate either through out the history of ZZZ world
but so far they've given us all, it feels like Either is like an Energy X that can be changed to whatever given sound manipulation, this includes chanting even which Astra has looked into
>>532561407>because they came earlier and the company hadn't yet caught on internallyNo, it's because the devs are actually yurifags.
I don't know about ZZZ devs but old hoyo devs have always been yurifags.
>>532561248Its true that other threads I go to are constantly derailed by dedicated shitposters, its actually unreal.
>>532561358bro thinks we are kurobots :skull:
>>532561678Zhenyu Li was in charge of HI3 cinematics.
You know, the ones with Kiana and Mei acting out lesbian fantasies
>>532561358wuwa could never
>>532560960>(You) pandering is what most people *actually* wantEh, I've never really cared for this. In a lot of media, the self-insert character is either too bland or too characterized for me to immerse myself. And even in truly faceless scenarios, the self-insert is portrayed as completely unproblematic. Everything just works out, regardless of how I'd truly react to a situation.
>>532561235Speaking as a dude, the prevalence of showing genuine affection that's not caked in some kind of plausible deniability is still a problem in the West. Being labeled gay or effeminate because of how you display care or concern is damaging for a lot of young guys, and they don't have either the role models or emotional tools to reconcile with those hurt feelings.
I'm only one guy and far from an expert, but I've seen it enough that it's clear lots of people choose to jump the shark rather than open themselves to the idea that some people simply express their emotions differently.
>>532561609i don't have the dialogue saved on hand except for this which i already posted
>>532553968anyone with even a shred of IQ will conclude that the goal of lucy's dad in that remark is to fascilitate her getting married to the dude she met in her travels similar to how he met his wife, the only country argument would be to say like "but he knows shes a lesbo lol and hes tryinna hook her up with belle so his bloodline can die" or some shit like that, vivian pandering I don't even have to mention or is she lesbian too? caesar sq i remember had some too, and corin's, are they all gay? nigga please
>>532561619Ether was opposite Electric on that elemental alignment wheel that got posted a while back. Presumably they're two different forms of energy - ether is probably most analogous to radiation in terms of how it has a lingering, dangerous influence and even brief exposure can have lasting effects that necessitate counteracting medication.
>>532561975>country argumentcounter* argument mb
Best bangboo for physical team?
Why are saved camera pictures from /zzz/ that are posted here always partially transparent?
>>532561235I agree, but it seems pretty common in asia for girls to be especially close and comfortable with each other, beyond how guys would be with their friends. It's why crying about yuribait seems common.
In contrast to the west where it's more often women are and are portrayed as catty and have some animosity of other women. Even the lesbians beat the shit out of each other.
>>532561609Nta, nor do I know what coom pandering means. All I know is that no matter what anyone says, Wise has been getting an edge over content
>Astra's PV date with Wise>Astra canonizing said PV in-game even if you picked Belle >Vivian PV showing a male silhouette >Vivian short animation texting Wise>Caesar reacting differently to Wise compared to Belle in the cinema>Miyabi's fiance situation Those are just on top of my head. Whether they're big or small differences in your eyes are irrelevant, the fact that they exist shows that the devs are playing favourites
I don't know how to break this to you, but you're not supposed to self insert as Belle or Wise.
They're not (You).
>>532562251>physical teamMoccus or Revolverboo
Or Snap if you want buffing
>>532562003Im sure there is still some differences, like either still being influenced by Wills and becoming sentient in the form of the qingming bird and tailless
and we never got a weapon lore for the qingming bird yet.... maybe whenever the wielder of the qingming sword finally shows up
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WAIT, WHERE THE FUCK IS EOUS?
HOLY SHIT WE LEFT EOUS BEHIND
>>532562353I don't know how to break this to you, but this was only true during CBT. ZZZ developers have admitted most people treat them as self inserts now. A change in direction is happening.
>>532562353It's what the devs intended
>relationships between characters and players Players = MC = Wise/Belle
>>532562353The fact of the matter is that someone can come up with a reason to mock any configuration of character and player gender. It's better to just lean into it and just start actively telling them that I self insert as Stelle with off-model gigantic tits and a horsecock because it something something fetish hentai and I want to fucking kill myself.
>>532562554This is just how you talk about players.
Imagine reading dev commentary from CDPR and interpreting it as "omg Geralt is literally me!!"
>>532562523>>532562554a change in direction? literally all gacha mcs are designed to be able to be used as self insert you retards, literally all of them, they're all quite blank slate and never controversial in the slightest, personally I don't really do that, but I can certainly relate to wise more cause he's not a nigger and hes a lanky nerdy guy like me, that's not self insertion per se but this whole anti self insert as a concept shit is retarded, you are playing the wrong genre
>>532561975nigga her dad's goal is to support her little outburst because he thinks it's just a phase and will come back to the company after rediscovering herself and being satisfied or whatever. If getting married to the MC (either one) accomplishes that, then he's satisfied. Notice how he didn't mention an heir, only her happiness?
Bro the only ones you can argue that it's wise pandering is miyabi and caesar because they're confirmed straight and have different dialogue options (miyabi's fiancee never gets acknowledged when she's conscious, so is it even pandering at that point?). But do you know who also has a different dialogue based on gender? Lighter. So the writing is genuinely trying to be as broad as possible. There is genuinely no argument to say the story was written for wise with belle as an afterthought
Personally, I think of myself as a 500 pound psychic gorilla controlling Phaethon.
>>532552903This is the voice in my head 24/7
>>532562730It's completely backed ingame
>devs doubling down on pandering >pandering to the MC (Belle or Wise) increasesSimple as
>>532562752This, I'll never understand playing a game filled with MC pandering and being so insanely against it. Surely there are plenty of games that suit your taste more
>>532562523I do like how they try to continue to portray their specific traits though instead of writing everything the same. (for the most part)
Like Wise still being uncomfortable with horror movies and Belle being the more positive one.
>>532562795>Notice how he didn't mention an heir, only her happiness?yeah because that's something a father would explicitly say when he's tryinna let his shy daughter find her own way in life you fucking retard GOD how autistic are you that you can't take the slightest hill unless its spelled out? if by some twist of fate you end up on a 3rd or 4th date and your father and mother make up an excuse to let you have the house for the night for the date are you not trying to get you laid and bring you some experience with girls because they didn't straight up tell you hey son you have to smash the shit out of that girl's pussy tonight got it? This is how you sound, you misintrepret this shit so hard that its hard to say you're not just babbling in bad faith
>>532538628this is why I play shifu
>>532562752Iโm a bald obese middle aged man. How is wise a self insert for me? On the inside Iโm a 38 kg little girl, but I donโt need a 3D model to visualize me loving someone.
>>532562446>Ask for best bangboo because I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing>Lists all phys bangboos and tells me to pick oneT-thanks
>>532552903I love licking and kissing. Bomb tier is when you make out after rimming her
Tiresome discussion that never goes anywhere. Selfinsert if you want to selfinsert, ship if you want to ship. But caring about what goes on in other people's heads is a waste of energy. Spend it to have fun instead.
It's Schrodinger's self-insert.
If you want to self-insert, the devs leave the opening for you to think that way.
Otherwise, Wise and Belle have distinct backgrounds and personalities.
The illusion only gets broken when the MC reveals knowledge that (You) don't have.
It was a big deal in Genshin 5.7.
People got mind broken because the MC dropped a backstory bomb that they knew, but the player did not.
And since apparently it's babby's first unreliable narrator, everyone got confused.
>>532561839>>532563232we're also talking about the guy who produced Ridu holiday right?
>>532563330No anon you have to understand that my side is actually winning and my enemies are suffering
>>532563107you can self insert onto literally any character, but devs of games like this purposefully make it easier by making the chars goodie two shoes with no controversial traits or takes, and literally all gacha games are designed similarly, ffs the nikke mc is literally faceless (i know its a "gooner game" so bad comparison but ZZZ clearly has sex pandering as well, as much as pg13 allows)
Is Miyabi still in a tier of her own or is Yixuan comparable? I haven't followed the meta much since the latter dropped other than her being in T0 as well. But I still keep hearing people say "Miyabi is still better". What seperates Miyabi from Yixuan? Being easier to play?
Canonically, Wise goes on a date with Astra while Belle facefucks Evelyn and leaves her tied up in shibari until Wise gets back to Sixth Street.
>>532563470sniffing Belle's 24/7 shirt while she's clapping her cheeks on the beech in her swimsuit...
>>532563592Miyabi > Xiyuan >>>> everyone else.
>>532563330I care when they do nothing but spam the thread and demand we share in their delusion
>>532562981holy shit YOU DUMB FUCK. How are you genuinely this fucking retarded? You're assuming shit and then getting mad people don't agree with it. What I'm arguing, using what we have been showing so far, is that the whole point of having a hands-off approach while only sending people to check in on her now and again IS FOR HER TO DISCOVER HERSELF AFTER HER OUTBURTS, JUST LIKE HE DID IN HIS YOUTH. YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARD. Can he fucking tell the future now? What if she really does become a dyke and brings a girl back? What if she doesn't? He can't fucking now that. He's giving her the freedom to discover it herself.
That's why that's a shitty fucking example of MC pandering, because that's not exclusive to Wise. You dumb fucking retard, how fucking stupid are you
>>532563592Double-Freeze mechanics, her moves have more opportunity for shoulder-to-shoulder, and she benefits from more buffs.
Because of the way Rupture Agents work, Attackers and Anomaly have a higher possible ceiling and a lower floor.
>>532563592Miyabi = Yixuan. Yixuan just takes a couple more braincells but once you understand her kit she stomps just as hard.
They're equal in terms of meta which is amazing for a gacha, considering how Miyabi came out in 1.4 and has since gated powercreep instead of becoming useless within 2-3 patches
>>532563592Legitimately, sources are thinning out due to the game's popularity wanning (try finding comprehensive guides by someone who isn't Iwintolosegaming) but Yi Xuan was tier zero next to Meebs on prydwen last I checked.
The difference is primarily that Meebs can just press button and do number, while Yi Xuan really wants the enemy to actually attempt to hit her sometimes, so if you're stun-locking the enemies her dps decreases. Yi Xuan also can't benefit from as many supports, her only real via supports being Pan, M6 Pulchra and kinda Astra but not really.
>>532563330I read this in Anby's voice. This must be the way
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this motherfucker is the best character and only interesting personality this game has written out since 1.4
>>532563592Miyabi seems slightly better and has more teams
Might change when we get more rupture supports
>>532563915I'm going to miss when the rabbit becomes playable and she turns Damian into a claymore.
>>532563716the phrasing of "when he saw how well you're getting along with that young lad from the video store he decided to leave it alone", given the dad's past of finding his own life partner through a similar journey, then the fact that lucy blushes immediately after that, and the fact that she stutters while talking about you in particular, all heavily implies that the dad (like a lot of dads in that situation) is hoping his daughter will find a nice husband to give him grandchildren, what kind of retard do you have to be to not see that in this context? does it make sense with belle though??? maybe everyone's just a dyke by default in new eridu lol xd who knows... maybe the hollows let women to impregnate and have families with other women too, the only logical counter argument to interactions like that is "lol they're all gay", yuri transbian arguments bullshit
>>532563330Anby would say this
>>532563592I have both M0W1 and Yixuan is way better than Miyabi. Yixuan can also get higher scores with low investment teammates.
>>532563890It's more like this game filters against theorycrafters that other gacha games attract.
Gacha game theorycrafters are known for having broken hands and crunching spreadsheets to compensate.
>>532563592Gameplay wise Miyabi is still above her.
Miyabi is also way easier overall. but Yi Xuan has a higher skill floor and more skill expression and her unique mechanic of sheer force makes her powerful in a way where she'll only become more relevant given time.
Lore wise they're basically meant to be equals in their own ways (and Shifu was offered the title of Void Hunter but declined).
Next ACTUAL Voidhunter and attempted Miyabi powercreep is Zhao.
Are they not gonna buff other agents like they did with Ellen
>What's that proxy?
>You're saving for me? How cute.
>But do you really think that pitiful pyrostash is enough for me?
>>532564143You have to be 18 or older to post on this basket weaving discussion board.
>>532564350The title of Void Hunter has responsibilities and duties. For example, they have a pact to not touch the Dark Wall.
Yixuan is a lazy scammer bum, so it's obvious why declined.
SEEd's leaks when? Today?
>>532563915This guy needs to slick his hair all the way back and replace Wise and Belle permanently. He's my self-insert. This is who I could ACTUALLY self insert as. Just me self-inserting as Damian fucking 35 year old virgin martial arts masters and 15 year old highschoolers.
>>532564474i accept your concession, retard
>>532564443They said they were specifically looking for feedback on doing this. I address it every survey
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>>532564257Anby would eat this.
>>532564630I'm not the anon you were responding to.
I just recognize underage b&.
https://x.com/zenlesszoneleak/status/1948522485768749328
Orpheus DPS
In actual riveting zzz news, more Orphie leaks dropped.
https://streamable.com/wcr6da
https://streamable.com/o5dsk5
>>532564452I really want Chinatsu to be a pure brat but she's retard coded, I hope Rokudo acts like that.
>>532564749sheโs so fucking ugly
>>532563450man I love exposed foreheads
>>532564725cool if true I don't need more inbred mongoloids that can't read elementary school dialogue in this discussion, shit like this makes it so obvious why the level of dialogue in gachas is so low, its half played by illiterates
I can't stop wanting to tweak Lucy's perkies for hours on end.
>>532564749>>532564817Im going to pull if she works with Trigger+Astra
>>532564928More Nicole skins please.
>>532564841Sorry, but the bunny is gonna be a the designated smug brat. They even got the VA that specializes in smug brats for her.
>>532564957I mean, you should just kill yourself at this point for being this obsessed.
At the very least, get a job, sweetie.
>>532564928Just save 20,000 Polys every version and you don't need drip.
>>532564749You can tell she's made to be a secondary off-field dps to someone like Sanby, over being used in a hyper comp for herself. Too bad Sanby kind of sucks, hoping she can make some other on-field Attacker teams work along with either Trigger or Jufufu, possibly Eve
>>532563592Yixuan is simply better. In high floor tower or hz Yixuan will not just do damage but also can save your ass from ohk with her parry when you don't have dodge or defense assist. She's more complete than Miyabi as a character and can work in a lot of different situations in the hands of a skilled enough player.
>>532565227Both are great for high tower floors, pair Miyabi up with Yanagi/Vivian + Astra/Yuzu and you're getting iframes out the ass throughout the entire time
>>532565124I feel like that combo will make anyone work really but its probably not optimal for her
FUCK YOU
I can finally go back to Howl!
oh boy thanks fucking goodness shifu is here to save this story from actually being interesting
glad that she's here to relieve us of actual conflicts with her super magical powers to solve every single thing she touches
>>532565189>bunnyhttps://youtu.be/-_IngYY4iWI
>>532565515Thank goodness we got Ju Fufu, the comedic relief cat
>>532565515>implying that any character is dying in a mihoyo gachaman shut the fuckup
>>532565454I would too if it wasn't so comfy to start dailies with crafting/adventure>fortune telling>open shop>grab coffee and it all being on one map, almost next to each other
>>532564817Leaker:
A lot of people want to use Orphie on-field and honestly its more than usable. Her animations are a bit awkward with what is and isn't cancellable but certainly playable (at least currently) if someone wanted to.
Orphie M0P1 - Shadow Harmony
Lighter M0 Steam Oven P5 - King of the Summit
Astra M0 Kaboom P5 - Astral Voice
>>532552187>post a gif of transbian flag>for a yuribait character>"actually it is just an accident, I didnt know it had that kind of meaning"Do retards really eat this up?
But looking into this general and people pretend this is not a blatant yuribait maybe the playerbase of this kusoge is that retarded
>>532562752>They've always been self inserts!!!!ZZZ wasn't like that. They even made Belle and Wise give chocolates to (You) during Valentine's and White Day.
https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1635493704868986880
>>532564817Leaker:
Stun rotations could be a lot better but last stun does show the idea of using Orphie's Ult mid stun and Quick Assisting out of it. Her Ult's QA comes out very quickly so its quite easy to fit in.
Sanby M0P1 - Shadow Harmony
Trigger M0 Fossil P5 - King of the Summit
Orphie M0P1 - Shadow Harmony
>>532565515We love Yixuanvillette here
I self-insert as futa Belle
>>532566039That's Wise giving chocolate to Belle (self-insert) and vice versa
>>532566039>They even made Belle and Wise give chocolates to (You) during Valentine's and White Day.this doesn't mean they're not self inserts LMAO
>>532565690gosh
who is gonna stop her?
>>532566348next void hunter
void hunter after that
all future void hunters
>>532566039Wise and Belle are literally the first choice for Belle and Wise to give chocolates to
>>532566000>checkedShe obviously got told to shut her shit up.
Using a game character to /pol/ virtue signal while the devs themselves are fucking hard at work was diabolical. Some devs probably wanted to blow her brains but took the higher road.
Is Miyabi mono ice worth it or should I use piper instead with Yuzuha? I don't waste resources that I will end up regretting.
>>532566000>yuritroon can't believe that a boomer mother (married) with daughters genuinely didn't know what the lesbian flag looked like Nice "blatant" yuribait btw, got anything other than a handholding pic to show for how blatant it is? Astralyn completely mogs this Alice Yuzuha ship with how much they had and even then Astra's been MC thirsty the whole time
Finally got around doing the tower..... but there are no new rewards?
or am I just in the wrong place?
how high have you climbed anon?
>>532562981in what world is lucy shy?
>>532566835That's the old tower
>>532566208I insert myself into futa Belle
>>532566860I don't do battle tower at all. Fucking tryhard.
>>532566835you gotta go to the green one
>>532564957>>532564143this is the guy who btfo'd that other guy?
>>532566694Mono ice is really good but you can get 20k with anything you dont need to waste your resources
>>532567132oh so ur bad at the game go away tourist
>want to try Caesar-Jane-Yuzu
>realize Janeโs passive wouldnโt activate
damn I hope they update her passive at least
>>532566860I beat 100 to see if there was an achievement (there was not)
>>532567381Yeah you're so amazing at playing this gacha game. Weird flex but ok.
>>532567243well either way i'd have to build soukaku or piper so I guess I will go for mono ice teams.
Is Crit and AP for Soukaku important or just optional? She needs attack and Anomaly mastery right to maximize her buffs?
>>532566827You dont play any other gacha games besides Mihomo games and it shows
Even shit like Limbus company where 70% of playerbase are shippers, you can clearly see how all of them are headcanon and the devs even show sign of resisting the playerbase by showing shipped character disliking each other
That is clearly not the case here. Even Reverse 1999, the game known as yuri game, doesnt have hand holding scene like this
The dev 100% know what they are doing
>>532567486oh so your bad at things you like weird flex but okay
>>532567486fuck off redditor
The game is telling us Obol gang is more stronk than Scoobydoo scooter gang.
But I dislike how this is not refflected in the game meta.
Alice > S11
Yuzuha > Orphie / Trigger
The only wildcard left is Seef.
>>532567486>people discuss game in game image board>madFucking retard
What disc set does Alice want?
Imagine tryharding in a dying gacha by Mihomo and still gets dabbed by Chinese cheaters anyway
>>532567530>uhhh I can't say shit using ZZZ so have these other gachas to prove my pointLike I said, Astralyn completely shits on whatever the fuck this "ship" is and in the end they pander to the MC
SEED must not be ready hence the lack of drip
>>532567725why are you so mad lmao play the game faggot
>>532567806Zhenyu Li had to skip 1.5 livestream to work on Astra and Evelyn. They are just slow, incompetent, and out of touch with the playerbase.
>>532567640Aren't you comparing the wrong agents to each other? How would a stunner be greater than an anomaly unit over time or a support unit? Jury's still out on Orphie as she's still being tinkered with, but its an odd conclusion to draw
>>532567714Fanged Metal + 2p Phaeton
Can someone explain to me why pen ratio is meta on miyabi?
>>532567530Sure, now go back to with your /pol/ flags back into your discord where you groom minors
It's extremely funny how people who defended this retardation were majority Genshin underage teenagers 15, he/him/xer/them on Twitter who got groomed
>>532567806I think Komano is an A-rank for 2.2 but isnโt ready yet
>>532568098Miasma has increased DEF? I've never used her in Miasma content
tf is going on in here? why are a bunch of mentally ill retards yelling at eachother about pol shit who the fuck cares? actually the end all be all would probably be whoever has the highest DA/hellhound score gets to pick who the characters end up with and I say that they all want to fuck MEEEEEEE not belle not wise not eachother irl MEEEEEEEE
>>532568098with her sig she gets tons of cdmg and attack, and then you only need to stack crit rating, so pen's the only thing she don't have.
>>532567931>How would a stunner be greater than an anomaly unit over time or a support unit?Whovr amplify the damage dealer the most ovr a time period and score mor points woul be the answer.
>>532568098Least saturated stat for her
>>532568325We love watching the girls be horny for Wise even though we know some underpaid chink writers wrote that, those girls will never be real, and my real self will be alone forever.
>>532568387why do you type like a facebook mom
>>532568495no fuck you yuzuha is riding my real life dick and alice is licking my taint get fucked wise cuck
>>532568078No u.
>>532568497Just to annoy you. 4chan gramps.
>>532567521Aim for at least 2300 atk(2500max her buff) and focus on AP the most important is to cancel Soukaku ex hold into dash+basic
Link if you want to know more or watch a youtube guide
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vTNLy25lGTEOjfs8EGpmU-rYAo1r7hOPFJaQBh-vmJhd6GbPw58X_Jb50z1vIZ5JHibBaGI8sG3mddI/pub?pli=1
Astra is the canon waifu.
>>532568325wisejeets uppity again
After 5 years Keqing still doesn't end up with Aether but surely they will make Astra the canon wife instead of baiting (You) for the next 5 years.
>>532568787You can't post that!
>>532568726they need to be shot they always shit up the thread god damn post game stats post more video game content
>>532568808She's already canon so I don't see why you're mad
Miyabi is also canon
>>532568985canon with real life me not wise or aether im fucking all of them you gay cucklord
>>532566000>lesbian flagThis is a thing? lol mentally ill faggots
>>532569102And a married mother with kids who has been living in Japan since 2005 is meant to know. Yuritroons are some of the most delusional fandom out there
>>532569101And I'm fucking your mom
>>532569101Eh, I don't even see you in ZZZ so you're definitely not canon, anon.
Astra is canon wife though
>>532568787Why is Alice topping Yuzuha
>>532569275thats cause im pulling the strings back in TOPS im actually a hidden character i walk past enzos shop all the time
Vivi is the canon wife the marriage docs are already in the mayor's office fools
Most beatiful woman in New Eridu
>>532569478>no proofyup yup, not canon
>>532569591you want me to blow my cover? nice try exaultist shill
>>532569498Kek, I almost forgot about this. Marriage soon, funded by the average tax payer in New Eridu
>>532569498100% canon and Bibipilled.
>>532568985Not really. In Snowbreak the MC really married Lyfe and Fenny whether you roll them or not.
>The wedding skin is canon and it actually happened>The game has no "what if" story, they are all canon>The wedding arrives after chapter 13 so they recommend having read chapter 13 before reading the wedding skin story>The fact that Lyfe and Fenny got married with the MC will be taken into account in future main stories>Lyfe relationship story will be rewritten>A ring will be added to the MC's fingers soonMeanwhile in ZZZ
>Roll for agents, gweilo>We will still ship bait them with other characters, though>Have fun imagining them as your canon wife>Wait until we release the next oneLOL
LMAO
Wait, could you have permanently missed this achievement? That sounds like total bullshit.
>>532569887what the fuck you didnt talk to any of them?????
>>532569829>b-but this other gacha!Mask off moment as always. No wonder some people are perpetually mad, it's the inferiority complex.
Astra is canon wife by the way did you know that
>>532569803Wise is so lucky
>>532569536Perky and bubbly beyond my wildest imagination.
>>532570227you are so weird do you enjoy this game at all or just like arguing about whos the canon wife?
>>532569829>ship bait themNot everyone is mentally ill and thrives off of headcanon. Simply playing the game and reading what you're told shows you that ZZZ devs pander to the MC. What you're doing is the equivalent of grabbing an ecchi anime and comparing it to a full blown hentai "see they'll never get fully nude!!!"
>>532569829why do you indians come here to shitpost, just keep living in your shit yurt in bangladesh and stop bothering normal people.
i was top 2% last night bwos its so competitive out here
>>532570418>arguingWhy are you so mad that I'm saying Astra is canon wife
You could say other characters you like are canon wives or even husbands if you were a Bellestacy picker and here you're getting mad instead
Who's not playing the game now, tourist boy
>>532570506According to the latest leaks, Lucia will be replacing SEED in the next patch
Does anyone know why yuri posters don't just use Belle for their yuri agenda? She gets almost everything that Wise gets with pandering. Would be so much easier than having to make things up constantly with crackships
Astra is a fucking WHORE women in show business are mondo whores and she has 50 000 men in her dms
Vivi is loyal and completely devoted, would rather kill the guy prepositioning her than cheat
>>532538628>numbers everywherePEAK ASIAN PORN
>>532570703one of us has been arguing for like 4 hours im gaming
>>532570815Astra is pure and virgin
>>532570908>everyone is the same posteroff the keyboard, bro
time to take a walk
Hugo would never Rat me out, right?
>>532570815Vivi is loyal but Belle is not.
>>532571008this isnt your journal no need to talk to yourself you can just go on the walk bro
>>532570754I bet this prostitute is the on who tol the other freaks to not do human experiments.
That's the only way this type of slut can be redeemed.
>>532568102I'm not defending
I'm just saying this is how Mihomo's games generally are, and why this kusoge keep falling, because it tries to pander to yuritranny and gooners at the same time
That is just plain greedy and stupid
>>532571068Vivi is a traditional Christian wife and she wants to feel dozens of Phaethon's kids catapulting out of her vagina, impossible with Belle (unless futa-belle i guess)
>>532570919she has 100 000 men in her dms worshipping her bro
>>532571136Humiliation ritual after humilation ritual for troons. First Astra's canon date with Wise and now Yuzuha and Alice both slobbering all over the Wise's and futaBelle's cock
>>532570807Japs are having fun shipping whoever the fuck they want
The fact that this is an "agenda" tells everything no? Whose agenda? You think a bunch of teenagers playing a game would've think about that shit
>>532570807you want shipping to only exist for one character? now that's just boring. I'm with the Grace Koleda shippers myself
>>532571292Look at Vivian and her broken heart icon
Does anybody have M6 Yuzuha?
>>532547013last post from UK I guess. 4chan also blocks VPN IPs so I'm absolutely fucked...
>>532570754Christ, I need to learn how to pose/animate in Blender. Just sitting here splitting models into parts thinking that I could ever finish a project.
>>532570236All men should wish to have a wife as cute and perfect as Vivian.
>>532571450Please take the aussies with you we might finally prove whether moot was right or wrong
>>532564143>the phrasing of "when he saw how well you're getting along with that young lad from the video store he decided to leave it alone", given the dad's past of finding his own life partner through a similar journey, then the fact that lucy blushes immediately after that, and the fact that she stutters while talking about you in particularthat scene is the same for belle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHlHRhg1yTc
>>532571381not a canon pic
>>532571493Keep at it, you can do it bro. I just save what I find in these threads
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>>532571318>>532571323There's a huge difference between actively enjoying your own headcanon and going out there for the sole purpose of shitposting while pretending its canon
How many cherries has the Bellecock popped?
It makes you wonder if the constant yuri fights are just one anon fighting with himself
>>532571743but it makes no sense with belle... that's the whole point
you do know you can just... headcanon a character's sexuality yourself, right?
the game keeps things vague on purpose
you can headcanon alice as a chimpfucker if you want, there's no evidence to the contrary
>>532569887actually no, because talking to someone else gets you a different but equivalent achievement
>>532571976Headcanon is delusional.
>>532571987sorry misclick, it's for
>>532571907
>>532572075If only stalkers were this hot
>>532572085that scene is the same for belle, his point still stands
>>532572115nigga we literally went over this 10 times and I can't be asked to do it again in detail, but basically its obvious that some romantic pandering is implied in the context, the fact that its the exact same for belle while its clearly written with wise in mind is just proof that belle's dioalogue is just tacked on with 10 lines of code changed because hoyo is lazy, the interactions are most likely written with wise in mind, its that simple
>>532570807Because most of the shipfaggotry comes from foid who dont do self-insert
You can just look at brown dust 2, there are canon lovers between playable characters in that game, but there has never been any talk about shipping because all the fanservice naturally filter all the foid
>>532572247Nothing vague about it. You pick Belle and almost everyone is suddenly Belle-sexual. You pick Wise and almost everyone's Wise-sexual
Where Komano Manato leaked gameplay?
>>532571075>he's still convinced everyone is the same posterYikes. Not a good look for Snowbreakfags.
>>532572269What triggered the wisewimp this time
>>532572356>You pick Belle and almost everyone is suddenly Belle-sexualyeah, this makes no sense, most people aren't fucking homosexual, thus its obvious that the interactions are made to pander to a male mc and belle being in those scenes just feels off, simple as
>>532571787Taking a fresh stab at Burnice tonight. In regards to construction, she could be much simpler than most.
>>532572385He's not in the 2.2 beta files (yet). 2.1 only has his animations and those could be outdated for all we know.
>>532572442Whether it makes sense or not is irrelevant. The fact remains, whoever you picked between the siblings gets pandered to the most in your game. I'm not really interested in doing a whole Wise vs Belle thing, Wise does get a little favouritism from the devs but the overal point stands
>>532572269brother that's a leap in logic because you *want* her only romantic with wise but not with belle. You're saying "um.. just like... assume it was meant for wise instead". How does that makes sense? What we do have is the same dialogue in the same context with both characters. Why should we assume one is genuine while the other is not when they're both the same?
It seems like we're looping but it's not on purpose, I'm really trying to understand it.
>>532571821the only reason this is even a discussion because posters keep replying with their edgy buzzwords whenever shipping gets posted. These are fictional characters people, who gives a fuck
>>532571821I told you the fact that people from both sides think this is some agenda is telling
It legit is for some people, and they're doing it for social points like how bullying anime weebs was the right thing because they were watching satanic cartoons
>>532572502Kek when she spins like a pole dancer at around 0:22 is absolute kino
no one cares about Wise holy fuck
>>532572858One of these days, we will be blessed.
>>532572639I chose Belle and forgot that Wise even gets the same inclusion, especially the theatre event when they voice act Belle's name directly on their theatre dates
>>532572848It's like going to the movies with a bunch of your friends, coming out of it afterwards and hearing one of them somehow recall a bunch of bullshit that never happened. You either correct them and call them out or label him as a schizo without giving it more thought. There's a reason they're called crackships
>>532572856Social points sounds about right
>>532573192She hates when people pats her head because it makes her feel childish. Artists can't even get the character right, the retards
>>532573092Six.
Teen.
Out of ten.
>>532572726>Why should we assume one is genuine while the other is not when they're both the samebecause it makes 0 sense for all the romantic pandering to be girl on girl? Because the vast majority of players are males and the writers write in the pandering to appease them and not the 1% of the playerbase being lesbian? It's a very safe assumption to make, if everyone in new eridu being lesbos doesn't seem off in your eyes idk what to tell you, unless you ask the author directly we won't know for sure I guess as another anon said it's left vague, but belle in any of those scenes seems off as fuck and unnatural it's obvious
>>532572639It absolutely matters whether it makes sense or nah when talking about which char the authors imagine as "canon" while writing the dialogue n shit
>>532573125Because that's all done by design, they both get heavily pandered to depending on whoever the hell you pick. Since launch there's like 4-5 instances where they showed a little bit of favouritism to Wise but overal they both get pandered to by the same agents
>>532573305>when talking about which char the authors imagineNot sure if you thought it was me you've been going back and forth with the whole time but I just chimed in here
>>532572085 >>532572356 point being that there's nothing vague about the pandering to either MC's, whether you think one or the other is canon is an entirely different discussion
Jane Doe, Ellen Joe, Tsukishiro - I don't care!
Impregnate all zzz girls!
>>532573713JANE DOE, ELLEN JOE, BIBIAN BANSHO OR HOSHI MIYABO - I DON'T CARE, YO!
I EAT ALL THEIR PUSSIES N ASSHO'S
>>532573890Cringe and ruined
>>532573692End of the day I don't give a shit if Belle players get the same pandering or not, but for me playing her would make half the char stories feel weird, I'm really not a fan of Belle in any way, it's just weird when people shit on the canon MC, they should just play their blue haired gremlin and not bark too much
>>532573278That's not true because movie theories in general are usually reaching for conclusions and we know how big that is. And no, crackships are about shipping two characters who don't even have a connection (Yuzuha, Vivian), which is nowhere near the same as the amount of love Alice and Yuzuha are getting
>>532573305If that were the case then tell us why the devs would even have Belle also share the romantic interactions in the first place?
>>532574001Oh and I don't want chars like Vivian to be homo, lesbians are nasty, I associate them with domestic abuse, misandry and bad hygiene, gross
>anon impregnated all the zzz girls
>including the near-extinct tiger thirens, Ethereal heel wearing ones, and possibly twiggy
crazy bastard...
>game offers me 2 dialogue options
>chose option A
>character reacts as if I'd chosen option B
Why even give me alternatives, then?
>>532574083>movie theoriesYes, theories. I'm talking walking out the cinema and hearing him talk about completely made up scenes that never happened. That's what this essentially is.
You see both Yuzuha and Alice actively pander to the MC, flirt with them depending on who you picked, etc, but yuri posters pretending it doesn't exist or it not meaning anything, yet assign their own made up dialogue and feelings over a single shown scene. Nothing new for shipping to have a whole bunch of headcanon, at the end of the day it's just that though. Treat it as such and enjoy it as much as you want
>>532562327Belle got a PV and a date of her own, and if Wise's became canon, there's no reason to assume Belle's didn't either. Either way, she has been very friendly with both proxies, I've yet to see a case of her picking sides over all of her 3 favorite people, be it wise belle or eve.
They use Belle as the MC when posting the cutscenes on youtube all the time, I don't think it means anything special. Vivian in-game also doesn't really suggest liking one phaeton over the other.
Caesar is shy, gets easily flustered, and is overly conscious of the opposite sex, seeing how much she is obsessed with romance manga. That just means she's straight. Lighter also has an exclusive interaction that "panders" to Belle but is friendly with Wise. That also just means he's straight. It also doesn't mean the writing is made for Belle.
Miyabi's fiancรฉ thing never gets acknowledged after that, and the interaction with her dad later is the same for both
>>532574357They got your ass. They made you read.
>>532574232cause it's too much work for hoyo writers to juggle two separate personalities and interaction groups lmao, they write it for one and copy paste to the other one, then most Belle players are too stupid to realize it's not her that's supposed to be in said situations
>>532574418>Belle PV dateLink? I must've missed it
THE THYMEFIELD FAMILY NEEDS TO EXPAND
>>532574520https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz_ILMRPIBQ
>>532543646Have you tried putting Vivian after Yuzuha? That way Yuzuha can help Vivian proc Corruption. In this team, Miyabi is on field most of the time so it's more likely that Vivian's anomaly build up to be lagging behind.
>>532574481Funny you say that because the way the agents interact with the MC is clearly meant for belle since she's not the shy sperg
>>532574357This is an innovative design! That way you won't miss out on any options!
It's brilliant!
>>532574575Nice, nothing wrong with it. Still weird how they could've simply found a way to mention this for Belle players instead of making them feel left out this long after Astra's patch
how many days am i able to skip out on for the 5 dollar pass to make it not worth it
>>532574701I haven't seen one good example of this, it's headcanon, all the dialogue fits Wise's personality fine, belletroons act as if he's like Corin, but Wise has no issue interacting with strangers in any part of the story, he's just not a sperg, it's that simple, idk where this headcanon comes from but I'm sure it's mental illness again
>>532574928of course you don't, cause you're reading belle's lines and assuming they're meant for wise
>>532574368You talking about the quality time events? Every character in the game gets that with the MC even if it doesn't fit their personality, mandatory even. That's why actual canon cutscenes are used to show character relationships for what they actually are, and for these two girls they at least embrace each other more than any two other characters have shown so far to make people ship them
>>532575012(see how that logic is stupid? you dumb fuck)
>>532574928You lost wisewimp
>>532575012I just think belle pickers are transbians and projecting their own irl personalities of being social rejects to Wise, so they hate him cause he's an effigy of their own personality, but he's not like that, you can be an introvert and have no issues making friends or interacting with strangers, it's a moot point, basically all the dialogue is written for Wise then copy pasted to Belle, she's like the goofy sidekick and he's the serious one acrually running shit, that's obvious from the first cutscene of the game
>>532574481You mean to tell me that Wise also gets the girls night slumber party dialogue route with Alice and Yuzuha?
>>532575029>ingame content is actually headcanon so it doesn't countJust like how PV's didn't count, yet got canonized? I'm glad you're agreeing with me how they both actively pander to MC.
Shippers use any crumbs to try and ship, Vivian X Hugo was a thing for weeks on end before that patch dropped and killed it off.
Fact is almost all characters (including Alice and Yuzuha) will always be MC-sexual first and foremost in terms of canon
>>532574697Thanks, I'll try that. I wasn't sure about the order, that helps
>>532575262you can't argue in good faith because you have to do all these mental gymnastics and this retarded projection to justify in your mind how this shy nerdy dude somehow is meant to be the socializing one when they're both equally amounts of the same hacker genius. They're both Phaeton. They're both the guy in the chair. They're both capable. Wise is a goofy loser in Belle's cutscenes too (he's even a bit of a fag during the astra story too)
I think it's stupid to imagine he's the canon MC when he acts like this. Or when he's saved by Komano like a little bitch. Or when he throws himself between hugo and lycaon. Or when Hugo easily grabs him by the throat and makes his hostage. Or when he lets Venus take a kick for him. It's very clear Phaeton is meant to be Belle when she's the social one, and they're always put in these physically weaker positions.
>>532574523Huh, I didn't know rabbits fed their young like cats
>>532575808>think it's stupid to imagine he's the canon MC when he acts like this. Or when he's saved by Komano like a little bitch. Or when he throws himself between hugo and lycaon. Or when Hugo easily grabs him by the throat and makes his hostage.Phaethon are weak nerds. What's wrong with that? I liked the story bettet that way. Now they are training to be ching chong magic fighters and it sucks
>>532574001Canon MC? Wise is the Incel MC and everything Eous ever did was always Belle.
I was going to skip Orphie but now I'm skipping Seed instead for Orphie.