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>>532546012>Thread QuestionDogmatic, Iconoclastic, or Heretical??
This is now /neg/ - Necromancer General
>me booting up a 3rd iconoclast playthrough of RT
>ToyBox Jealousy begone
yep, its gaming time
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What are your unironic answers for this I.E. what do you imagine your first character as?
>captcha pand4
>>532691601An Uninstall Wizard
>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. โI... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!โ
>Arueshalaeโs fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. โI love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?โ
>The girl flinches, but doesnโt pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. โI believe you. You must be real โ I donโt want to imagine a world where youโre not.โ
>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. โTogether, no hardship will scare us. Weโll get through it! We definitely will!โ
>The heat radiating from Arueshalaeโs body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...
>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.
I bless this thread with my hands.
>>532691852succubus are evil *kills her*
>>532690016Nope, just a glasses/shirt set with no spell resistance effect.
>>532691218It shouldn't be my equipment, I checked all of it. It's outright "immunity" too rather than a bugged spell resistance from an ability or something. It shouldn't be a bugged buff either since I've removed all my buffs with toybox and cast haste and it didn't work.
Anons, when exactly is Yrliet's dialogue supposed to update? I'm still getting the 'unworthy of speaking about whatever' one and I'm about to go to act 3 so I'm guessing it's bugged.
>>532691601Ordo Xenos, secret radical, xeno hybris, psyker
>>532629579what in the fuck
>>532691601>ordo hereticus>puritan into radical>adepta sororitas
>>532692823It's a bug
Go into toybox and under the "search and pick" tab go to the flags tab and search for CrudarachAeldariSaved
Unlock it and set it to 2
She will now respond differently and answer all your questions
It's voiced too, so it's a pity it's bugged
>>532692823It's an unfixed bug, that can be fixed with toybox iirc by setting ger act 2 quest stuff to completed
>>532693126>>532693246But when was this supposed to change? After doing all her Aeldari in Distress stuff?
>>532693291Yep. After you try to help her friends and they crash their ship rather than hang out with her
I'd rather this thread be slow as shit and half dead, than 40k being the topic day in and day out.
>>532693291Yes
You also get a bit extra after Cumrag I believe, where you can ask about spirit stones. But everything else is supposed unlock after the Eldar in distress thing
It's just encyclopaedia info really, not really personal to her, but it's neat to have it unlocked
>>532691601Did Owlcat say if they will include all the previous archetypes and origins, I remember hearing they said one origin from RT will be an archetype in DH
>>532693794>>532693634Alright, thanks anons.
So if it's just encyclopaedia it shouldn't affect her romance, right? I did the meditation together stuff.
I seem to remember this not being bugged back some months after release. Sometimes Owlcat's process baffles me.
>>532693657Same. I really thought they'd be done with it by now.
>>532693930Yes doesn't affect the romance. It's just funny that she's tight lipped right to the end lmao
>I seem to remember this not being bugged back some months after release.Me too. Who knows with those slavtards
>>532694123>>532693657Talking to yourself is a sign of heresy or, worse, corruption
>>532694363shut up man, I don't want to hear the words.
The world is just so fucking boring
>muh heresy>muh xenos>muh heresy>muh xenosrepeat ad infinitum
I wonder whats gonna happen in the next game
>>532694193>Unlock the flag>All the dialogue is exhausted>Remember that I did hear this dialogue during this playthrough???
Weird shit man, fucking slavs
>>532691564Oh right, I forgot to ask. Are there any mods I should use for my first playthrough or should I play a vanilla game with no mods?
Also do mods disable achievements in Rogue Trader?
>>532695321why would you mod a game you've yet to play? cringe
>>532695321Toybox for fixing busted quests and some quality of life things eg interjections from remote companions
That's all
>AchievementsToybox doesn't disable cheevies but don't know about others
>>532695321toybox is the only mod you need, use it to skip trash fights and the space combat if you dislike it
also helps with gathering items and the empire building aspect
>>532695398I expect dev incompetence.
>>532695575Alright, thanks.
>>532696018I'll get it then, thanks. Time to Warhammer.
Executioner just gets out of hand very fast. This is silly
>>532697002Oh yeah, it's absurd. Doesn't need pyromancy or anything else.
I am literally having my mind blown right now
>Aeldari
>Eldar
>Elder
Holy shit. And no these aren't your typical fantasy elves. Nothing in WarHammer: 40,000 is typical.
Elves. In. Fucking. Space. They even have a special little slur for humans: "mon-keigh" aka "monkey"
Pretty messed up right? I don't know how they come up with this shit
One more thing, they have this race called Orks
>Ork
>Orc
I'll just let you think about that one on your own ;)
If you leave Sister Argenta behind in Commorragh she goes on to have a successful career in the arena and ends up becoming an honorary Wych
>>532697220screenshot or dont believe u
>>532697510It's a theory (a game theory)
They should have gone with a warhammer fantasy crpg, but then they wouldn't have been able to reuse 90% of the assets.
>>532697718Maybe the feudal planet is practice for a warhammer fantasy crpgg
>>532697718Problem with warhammer fantasy crpg is that you need to make it so you can play any race at all and that always kills reactivity
>>532697958need a hard to be a god immersive sim
>>532691017 (OP)Saw this on Reddit, reminded me of you guys (=
Wait it's pronounced "mon-keigh"?? I've been saying "mon'keigh"! Oh I feel silly
>>532698930This is inaccurate because Roboute Guilleman doesn't believe in the imperial religion or heresy or any of that stuff, he predates that
Since psker is not a origin and now a class in dark heresy I've got an idea. Sister of battle psyker
Would honestly have been more interesting if the wh40k crpg would have had you playing some other faction than the humans
>>532699443Technically canon
>>532699165I'm still miffed with how they pronunce 'Arbites'. It should be 'Arbites'.
>>532699165The distinction is minor but important.
When I'm around my friends or explaining 40k to people, and this phrase comes up I make sure to say it with a little extra space to really emphasize the hyphen.
I also put extra oomph on the 'k' of Ork to distinguish it from the traditional fantasy orc
>>532699165The biggest problem is them saying "mon kee". It should be "mon kai" like "pie" like in dawn of war
How hard is she going to get nerfed?
>>532699165Yeah it's two words, like Mon Calamari
>>532700405They'll make death from above a one-use-per-turn ability
>>532700721that's not even close to the real broken ability of her classes
>>532700721Make it like 3 uses per turn max and that'd be a pretty good change, I'd also make it so you can't have more than one enemy with Blood Oath active at a time, so you can't spam the ability to get infinite movement. Although like this anon said
>>532700901 I think her biggest issue is how insane Executioner scales. Even mid game you start dealing thousands of points of damage while being extremely tanky and having fairly decent debuffs, it's a completely broken class.
yeah, bolters are cool and all, bust a grenade chuckin', lasblasting, trench dwellin', emprah fearin' soldaten just hits the right fucking spots
Decided I'd finally check out Nenio's quest
Kind of like that atmosphere and theme, nice to have some different music too.
>Nenio died to something dumb even though enemies are really easy here
>whisked away
ok..
>saving now for some reason takes about 5x as long as it has since before I entered the area
this alone is making me think of reloading outside and just skipping it
>did one of the memory flippy tile puzzles
fine, not terrible, though I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next.
If the save thing hadn't suddenly gotten ridiculous slow then I'd be more interested, but I foresee some major bullshit ahead. I briefly skimmed something to find out about Nenio, she's gone until after the boss fight I guess. So that's stupid. On her own questline area, brilliant move devs.
I want to form my own opinions but I'm already not excited and I have a strong feeling backed up by other puzzleman areas, that it's not going to get any better. Think I might reload and leave this MyStErY unsolved.
Wenduag and Camellia threesome (secret romance)
>>532702465This is just toggling Jealousy Begone on toybox
>>532702559Oh I'll toggle them both alright
>>532700248not the hard kee
[Lore: Xenos] Mon-Kee is our word but you can say Mon-Keigh
Is there anything bad that happens if i kill every eldar i run into during RT? Normally theres at least a little bit of tragedy of the angle of "we could have worked together" but most Eldar in this game except Nocturne are 0 accountability mongrels
when I'm out telling people about 40k, I pronounce it like "moan, kay" with a little aueh at the end almost imperceptible for emphasis
>>532703002I think Janus gets raped by vengeful eldar corsairs in the ending slides which the Janus elves would have stopped if you'd allowed them to stay
>>532703623Incredibly inconsequential. If anything, eldar would lose more to a conflict with humans than vice versa. I count it as a good ending.
Deciding JA3 difficulty settings going in blind.
This is what I'm thinking:
Commando, but might bump up to Mission Impossible. I'd always rather things be too hard than too easy, but what that means can vary a lot between games.
I toggled on Dead is Dead, To The Bitter End, Ammo Scarcity, Bobby Pay's, Heavy Wounds, and AIM Union Rules.
It's nice that I can change at any time but that's what I'm going with now. If anyone's played, let me know your thoughts.
playing a dogmatic run and iconoclast run simultaneously and so far the dogmatic party is a lot more fun to control in combat but i can't figure out how to meet all of the skillchecks i need without idira (warp) and yrliet (xenos). even with heinrix toybox'd into an officer, he has like 30 less INT than he needs to fill both of those checks.
>>532704643If you turtle in, the difficulty will go away very quickly
rtfags are just beta tester for DHchads
>>532703052for me, it's "moan-kai"
>>532700405>>532700901they'll make the thing that triggers all of the dot ticks at once cost 2-3AP
>>532704643Go with an all-girl crew
>>532705345Too bad. Maybe later. She's probably just giving me an excuse because I'm not a big name yet.
It's been a while since I've done a centrist opportunist.
I still have one question
Why does crimelord have a perception warrior in mind?
>Idira
>Cassia
>Heinrix
All mandatory inclusions in every party because they have magic and magic is ridiculously overpowered.
That leaves only one free slot which you have to give to Jae because she can max out like 8 different skills by herself.
That doesn't leave any room for other party members.
>>532705831She looks exactly like JLaw
She's going to get Harv'd
>>532706178doing that run now and it's the first time i've been able to progress out of the start of the game without hitting a weird dialogue/verisimilitude autism block. feels like the story and setting was meant for that character archetype and narrative.
>>532706792I don't use Idira nor Heinrix, and I use Cassia mostly because she's cute but I hate how she trivializes combat
>>532706792>That doesn't leave any room for other party members.Roboute Trader
Idira
Cassia
Heinrix
Jae
???????
>>532706792arch-militants and BD/executioners are just as OP as the psykers without requiring any magic. and you could always go voidborn 5000IQ for your main character to cover all INT and FEL checks for the whole game to open up your party slots.
>>532706792I just keep Jimmy and Cassia. Executioner with Jimmy is so good.
>>532706792I just go everywhere solo with my BD/Executioner trader
>>532706953If you're consistent with your dogma, it will make sense. Centrist makes sense because you're in it just for yourself and going along with whatever because it benefits you
>>532706792I usually drop Heinrix and Cassia and never have problems.
>Mousestealthy all-rounder, not great stats but cheap and stealth will come in handy more than guns blazing in the beginning, I'm sure
>IgorNephew to Ivan from JA2 so of course I need to bring him, another stealthy all-rounder, pretty good marksmanship comparatively to these early options
>BunsA Veteran contract, Marksman, good wisdom, seems to have some capabilities with teaching others, and also 'additional content' with Negotiator
>Dr. Q (doctor, melee)Most expensive, Elite, martial art dr.
>LivewireMechanic, has the Scoundrel 'additional conversation' that I wanted from Fox, pretty decent all around with a high wisdom so she'll be able to learn fast, I'm guessing.
I'm not sure if I'll need to keep some cash on hand, but we'll find out I guess.
These are also 7 day contracts, which I need to keep in mind. I could already be WAY over budget without even knowing it, but we'll see. I'm also just noticing there's a slider when hiring, for longer or shorter contracts and you definitely save on longer contracts. Something to keep in mind for the future.
>>532706941or maybe Harvey will get Fox'd!
I hope to get her because one of her feats has "additional conversation options" which of course is mandatory
Operative psyker is interesting.
I've been using tide of excellence to stack a bunch of damage increases so that my ignites deal extreme damage. If nothing else it's a lot more interesting than just flipping across the map or spraying enemies with bolters.
>>532708696Cute way to do the Q&A character/merc creation, though you can also do it manually it seems. I'm for sure going with the pre-made mercs anyhow.
I'll stop blogposting every single thing now, but that's the feeling of hiring a team. Fun so far, now I'll actually play.
>>532693918Psyker will be an archetype
I hope we get Adepta Sororitas background...
>>532711556Pathfinder 3, of course.
Besides just having the game function properly, I just want them to fix the combat for Dark Heresy, You just steam roll everything on turn 1, maybe 2 if you just use even moderately smart class choices.
>>532711056Are they even allowed to be Inquisitors?
>>532710174I think the overwatch thing is neat, where you attack anyone entering the area. And then there's some feats about ignoring overwatch or disabling enemy overwatch.
It's also interesting that body part targeting takes into consideration obstruction. For instance on a shot I'm about to take, it says that it's obstructed for everything but head.
>>532711856Anyone is allowed to be part of an Inquisitor's retinue if the Inquisition has enough reach to grab them.
>>532711856In theory, anyone can become an inquisitor so long as they have another inquisitor as a sponsor.
In preparation of by beloved hotshottie
and far greater and later, the virgin necrontech lasgunfu of my wetdreams
Why don't you guys use your own custom portraits
>>532712238AI is trash and random shit on the internet doesn't match RT's artstyle
>>532712048>using anything other than medium boltersSuboptimal.
>>532712238I do. AI is good and that guy's a dumbass
>>532712715>boltersthat's a woman and spacetroon's weapon
>>532712048An elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
Not crude, like a bolter or a chainsaw.
>>532711951Mouse for first kill, Igor and Dr Q also on the board and bonus for melee kills, saving some ammo. Livewire balanced it out with some stray bullets that had absolutely no chance of hitting. Accident, and also still understanding the aiming and stances and everything.
Would be nice if the bad guys had a little more character, but I think that about a lot of games.
>>532713403These guys are /fa/
>wasteland
>rogue trader
what are some other worthwhile rootin' shootin' crpgs
>>532713990Red Dead Redemption
>>532713403Thank god you can just turn valuables into money, that's a good feature.
Also nice: if there's skill checks in conversation they'll come up as the person with the highest skill. Also, people from your team might variously chime in, none of that larian style deciding who talks thing.
>>532713593Igor for sure is, he's trying to make a name for himself out of his uncle's shadow. I gave him a shitty vest and he threw a fit about how his uncle Ivan wouldn't put up with such garbage.
Why even bother with skeletons when you can summon gigachad demons?
>>532717210I'm not taking any chances with Annie
You know what they say about Irish girls
I would've bought it if they had let me romance the SoB.
>>532718215If you nut in a SoB she loses her powers
You wouldn't want that to happen would you?
>>532719385What powers? All those bitches do is shoot guns really well.
>>532720337She has the audacity to propose a transactional arrangement
>She gives you 2 PF and passes all your skill checks for you>You give her a mini-warrant-of-tradeCompletely unacceptable. Compare how Yrliet, Argenta, or Pasqal help you without expecting anything in return
adeptus sororitas are just rape bait for heretics and their communal sex toys post breaking
>>532714624First sector taken. Whew, definitely botched that. One well positioned sniper on their side combined with me absolutely blowing any kind of stealth advantage I could have had opening, set us back and almost lost someone. It specifically hurts since I picked a few who are pretty good at stealthing.
Came very close to losing Dr Q. Mouse and Igor took some hits as well.
Plus side? Buns now has some kind of rifle which will give us a little range, and Igor of course will get the AK-47. We still need to be very judicious with ammo, but at some point I think we will be able to manufacture our own.
Neat thing, looks like I'll be able to manage multiple squads which I'm sure will be nice.
>14 day estimate: -$17,000Ouch. No time to heal our wounds, we need to secure some cash flow. The heavy wounds and long-term impact of that including the hit to morale, does not work in our favor. Might actually give Dr Q the rifle for now, just to keep him as far back as possible (not his strength though.)
I xan use uncanny dodge irl
I use Blood Phial in real life, but instead of blood, it's piss
I thought Argenta would be the actual Argenta sent into the distant future by warp fuckery and confused how anyone could view her as a saint
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What the hell she's so cute
>>532723518That actually makes more sense, with how occasionally people are like
>Oh wow it's THE Sister Argenta, I can't believe it's really youwhich makes no sense really
>>532723709>>532723518Sisters of Battle are kind of a big deal
>>532723709Argenta also states that she spent a lot of time on Footfall just wandering around and killing heretics. She was a known quantity on the station before joining Theodora
>>532723518This would give better meaning to her quest for the one star. Fulfilling all the expectations that people have piled up on her
As it is she just wants to find it for autism reasons
>>532723796Blah everyone's a big deal in this dumb game
Tired of it
I want mudcore 40k
>>532724076>I want mudcore 40kMost boring shit in the planet
I bet you're the kind of boring nigger to play fighter in DnD
>>532724076>play a rogue trader game>it's a rogue trader game
>>532721281Another stupid mistake by me, mostly an issue of not being used to the controls and I misunderstood something about stealth so we confronted instead of stealthed, again. Dumb dumb dumb... This time I also misunderstood equipping, so the couple of grenades we have don't seem to be accessible.
This might be it for us. Even if we take these last two out, we are hurting VERY badly. Mouse has already panicked. We can't really afford to take time to heal up but I don't see what other choice we have.
Igor's AK has jammed twice and is now out of ammo anyhow. He threw his knife and now has gotten drunk (to give him some grit which is basically damage reduction), and is about to run over with his fists.
Did Aurora get nerfed?
He's a lot weaker than I remember. Usually you have to restart the fight until you go first, throw a sacrificial lamb into melee, and use desperate measures to blitz him down before he 1 shots the entire team with a single burst fire.
This time I just sort of hit him with a few ignites and and a burst fire from Argenta and he died. It was very anticlimactic.
i want to do a heretic run but all the heresy options are like... cartoonishly retarded
>>53272488640k Chaos is cartoonishly retarded anon
>>532724573Yeah his burst attacks are weaker and it seems like he used to get more free turns
Is he trying to impress her bros?
>>532725173Yeah he's trying to catch her attention
I like how the other two crewmen upstairs gossip about her
>Hey didn't that xenos scum used to skulk around here >Yes she made a nest down by the railing where she can lurk
>watching hammer and bolter
>eldar episode
>cheer as the sad music plays over the knife-ears being purged
Found the Roman Mask in the cathedral. It's on a shelf at the top of the tower, right next to a mouse-over area for a book, which is what was causing me to miss it.
>>532725717She took his hairline with her apparently
>>532725173Those candles look like a fire hazard. Are they really necessary?
>>532725731Who's an edgy boi? Who's an edgy boi? Yesh you are. Yes you!
>>532726572Yes.
I just hate them.
>>532726631More Eldar men for me then.
How important is agility and weapon skill for an assassin really when lethality is dodge and dodge reduction?
I guess WS is still necessary to hit melee enemies
>>532726631>I get physically angry when I think about a race of non-existent aliens
>>532727026oh wait, nevermind
misread it
>>532727047lol, what's with you?
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Reminder, it's not gay if they're aliens
Hey, the old lady in the Administratum has a portrait now
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>>532691601I'll recreate one of my old characters I played for a long time. Pretty good at talking and medicae. She was part of the personnel from the local convent who was sent to help an inquisitor who asked for help when he arrived in the system following a lead. That game was really fun, the rest of the group was a psyker, a guardsman, and a tech adept so it was very much an archetypal party.
I'm really looking forward to the dh videogame, it's something I've wanted for a very long time.
>>532725061Literally everyone can straight away tell what you are.
>Argenta knows you're no different from your predecessor the moment you accept the teleportation proposal from the changer at the deck.>Jimmy knows you're witholding the blade(he will even be astounded if you hand it over after getting back to the ship after you save the reactor)All this makes writing look rather stupid later though.
>>532727262If it's not human cock it doesn't count, just slobber all over it
>>532727671She sounds like that one OC
Who needs psyker abilities?
>>532723602Sorry buddy, you made the wrong choice bring her on board. The game forgot to tell you that whole body swap thing left her with horrible mutations and in the post game, she falls in love with a man only to turn into a chaos spawn on their wedding day and eats him. Isn't that just so GRIM and DARK?
After months of playing nothing but crpgs I think I'm finally burnt out.
I need to take a break from playing with dollies and watching numbers go up.
>>532728874NTA but I installed the "happy ending for Maive" before even playing Lex
So whatever's hidden behind your spoiler, I'm immune
>>532728874Heh, get owned kid, I installed
>>532729007 now too
>>532729068>>532729007By golly this violates the lex
I made Maeve the governor.
>>532729889I wanted to do that but I felt bad making the coffee girl run the planet
Overseer Pasqal?
Eagle or Skull?
>>532732013Skull
Eagle seems worthless
>>532732059I'm tempted to give Cassia an eagle to fit with her weird bird fascination after footfall
>>532732013I imagine he'd be much happier with a servoskull
>>532732324Yeah, it makes sense. I gave him one.
Ah yes, the good old 'I actually have 12 part members' wrath days come back
so they could have given us bigger ships but choose not to
>>532733104You are sure to win cause your speed is superior
>>532733052i never played wrath on unfair to warrant that cheesery
>>532733164in this case, yes actually
>>532727671>I'll recreate one of my old characters I played for a long time.Based and same. Except for me it was an adeptus administratum clerk who was supposed to be a high int low everything else nerd who was forced to do all the social stuff including interrogation because NOBODY ELSE PUMPED THEIR FEL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>532727614It's a different NPC. They were just lazy, so when you meet with her in the administratus office she occupies the same room sa jae's quest npc
>>532733812She LITERALLY gave you gembreaking soul sex to keep the eldars from yeeting your soul into oblivion
>>532732282I did that and it seems to be working ok
It's not great but I wouldn't say it's worthless
She's OP anyhow
>>532733971Her second archetype doesn't matter at all since you just pick all her navigator talents
>>532733942Yeah but she owes me anal too
>>532727671>2nd editionIt's a shame they will probably base it on the first one
>>532734012Which is why GS matters a lot
>>532734183>analThat's deldar territory
>>532734316Cause even if you never bother with the archetypes talents and abilties, guaranteed first turn is extreme value
>>532734185What are the major differences?
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>find my way to Ulgoth's Beard
>talk around
>get 4 separate quests sending me to the Durlag's Tower
this feels like a setup to an MMO dungeon. should level 6 be enough to tackle this?
LE is hands down the most gigachad alignment
>>532734678Level 6 is fine. Its a bit heavy handed because that dungeon is the main focus of the expansion that added ulgoth's beard.
Pasqal is so preoccupied with whether he COULD that he never stops to think if he SHOULD
the absolute dogshit you have for cover and the fact he always goes first makes this annoying as hell on unfair without a GS
>>5327345142nd edition doesn't have archetypes. You can build your character however you want as long as you have experience to buy the talents, skills and stats you want. The price of them depends on your proficiencies, and your proficiencies depend on your background, homeworld and career
WHY THE FUCK DON T WE GET MORE CRPGS
WE SHOULD GET ONE GREQT CRPG EVERY FEW MONTHS
WHY IS THE GENRE SO DEAD
>>532736457The genre is fine the way it is. I don't want the likes of bg3tards flooding it
>>532736553It's borderline dead and is being kept on live support by 2 studios
>>532736860This is the most alive its ever been.
>search "Baldur's Gate 3 First Time/First Playthrough"
Hundreds of videos by women
>search "Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous First Time/First Playthrough"
Not a single video by a woman
>>532736457We're in a pretty good spot right now, there's plenty of solid indie crpgs coming out these days.
If you think now is bad remember the ps3/360 era, you had dragon age and thats it.
>>532737161>there's plenty of solid indie crpgs coming out these days.name 5
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>>532737441>>532737590you said solid
How the fuck do you know whether it's solid if it's not out yet
How we feelin about the outer worlds 2 lads?
>>532738029I don't feel anything about it at all
>>532738029I'm just confused why they thought anyone wanted it. They had to cut the price and the game isn't even out yet, it honestly might kill obsidian.
I'll try it if it end up being good but I highly doubt it.
>>532738501>it honestly might kill obsidian.it'd be a mercy killing at this point
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>>532739412They do shit games but good mods.
If you'll consider Kotor2, NWN2, New Vegas, etc games as Overhaul mods then it turns out they did a pretty good job!
>>532738029Didnt play avowed, probably not going to play outer worlds 2 either. I rarely drop RPGs but the first was just so bad. Can't even remember any plot beyond the eight grade writing level capitalism parody.
Is the "Fearless" voice in RT is some eceleb/streamer?
>>532741867The extra male voice pack (that FeMC does not have) is CohnCarnage
>necromancer's tale
>become lich
>don't revive with phlyactery desptie making it
you had one job you monkey dev what the fuck were you thinking
>>532738029I really liked Avowed because it wasn't bootleg Skyrim like everyone wanted it to be. Outer Worlds 1 was bootleg fallout in space and I wasnt impressed
Bloodlines 2 will be the cyber punk of crpgs
>>532743312So an actually good game despite some bad bugs?
>>532743406It will become good after a year of patches.
>>532742506You're supposed to be mad that they didn't slap a bunch of skyrim features on it
I'm pretty much a gnome irl
>>532743312i'm fully expecting it to just be okay, which of course means people will be outraged that it isn't as soulful as Bloodlines 1 but ultimately the game will be okay, kinda fun to play but nothing special and the story will just kinda be okay and not really close to matching Bloodlines 1 plot
honestly the most offensive thing is the Player's stupid fucking name, like damn what retard thought Phyre was a good name
also i half predict that a plot twist will be that you aren't actually the Elder Vampire and the voice in your head is the real one trying to take you over after you diablerie'd him or something
>>532734183Shut up Raszard
As a heretic, thematically when is the best time to get rid of Yrliet? Cumrag?
SHIFTER (fiend or were) 10/ Bloodseeker 10 is the way to go if I want a bestial/demonic vampire?
>>532744586You can sacrifice her on the jungle planet to slaanesh Might be wrong on the timing but there's a literal planned section around it
>>532744586Heretics will keep her around much longer, you can feed her to Slaanesh
Only dogmatics will get rid of her for autism reasons
>>532744586Thematically, Heretics will use her for a special purpose, not get rid of her
Iconocucks will keep her the entire way through
Dogmatards will have her guide them on Janus, then kill her along with the other elves
Opportunists will just leave her on the streets of Cumrag to be a crackwhore, not even waste a bullet
>>532745173>Opportunists will just leave her on the streets of Cumrag to be a crackwhore, not even waste a bulletI thought of getting her xenos pet personal quest end for this run
>>532745374That's a good one too. She's pretty chill about it too and judging by her ending slides it works out fine.
>>532744227Most important thing will just be whether they get the atmosphere right, really. Bloodlines is my favourite game but that's what carries it rather than the plot.
I do also prefer the elder vampire thing over yet another magically special thin blood or special snowflake Caine keikaku.
>>532743982A dapper little fellow
>>532746387>elderAhhhh there's that word again, Yrlietfags pls go
>>532746387I wouldn't count on it anon. I haven't paid attention to modern VTM in quite some time, but White Wolf weren't handling it all that well.
>>532748417I've at least enjoyed the WoD text games. Night Road and the werewolf one from the same author in particular.
>>532748175Nah I'm a marawhore
>>532691017 (OP)>suffer through Divine Hound until I get the unlimited judgement mythic power for me and my dog>immortal Deliverer sword and board TWF build (who the fuck tested and allowed this shit)>some unconventional gish abominationWhat do in WotR?
The best thing to come out of WoD were those twin stick shooter Hunter games.
>>532734012Strategic Adaltation is pretty good however, with a Devastating Staff she can attack three times per round.
>>532746387I'll be happy if it's at least Vampyr level
>>532744227You're a bit more possitive than I am. I expect it to be completely mediocre. Not bad necessarily, but forgettable and boring, which is probably even worse.
>>532743312I thought cyberpunk was cyberpunk of crpgs
>>532751185from what i've seen of the gameplay it at least looks kinda fun to play and regardless of story if the gameplay is decent it can carry a mediocre narrative, its been a while since i've played an immersive sim type game and it looks to scratch that itch a little
>>532753058Isn't the main character premade? That kind of puts me off desu
>>532753269yes at least i think they are sorta like Cyberpunk where you are customising them but they've got some set story beats and backgrounds even if its modular, as mentioned they have a fucking stupid name
Any rpgs out there with the same vibe as Marauders? PvP extraction shooters are cancer, but raiding dieselpunk ships in space is fun.
If only Starfield wasn't ass
>>532753269No more premade than the ones in the original
>>532753669NTA, but wasn't a big selling point of the first game that you could be a vampire from whatever the fuck clan and have a wildly different experience? This premade bullshit sounds like a step in the wrong direction
>>532753046Cyberpunk was the Duke Nukem Forever of crpgs
Rouge Trooper is Divinity DOS2 of crpgs.
>>532753994you can be from different clans, though they have definitely trimmed down the clans, mostly the clans in VTM were pretty much identical with Malkavians and Nosferatu's having an actually different experience, and Tremere could get a different ending
but otherwise it was mostly the same storywise it just affected what your superpowers were and that seems to be the case here
>>532753806Which part of it do you care for the most? Getting cool guns and military loadouts with some sci-fi elements would fit Underrail, ATOM or maybe even Jagged Alliance (or some of JAs more obscure ancestors for expanded gun autism). You can also always go back to replaying stalker games.
>>532753854Do we get to choose which Clan our Elder is a part of? I thought that'd just be premade or some random made up Clan
>>532754018So bloodlines 2 is gonna be the duke nukem forever of crpgs too then
Weren't we supposed to be a thinblood in VTMB2? But a cool thinblood, one that gets to choose who he joins, and doesn't get called gay by other vampires.
>playing RT
>go into the freight line of my ship
>start hording ration cards
>realize I'm stealing from myself
>>532754914The part that's locked is that you're an elder with some canon history and a name. I think it's banu haqim(assamites), brujah, tremere, and ventrue. They were going to sell the other two big ones as dlc but I have no idea if they're still doing that.
>>532755253You can give them to the beggars
>>532753806seconding under-rail it's kinda like that but without being in space
>>532755225That was the original version paradox scrapped after they found out that the devs hadn't actually made anything
Hey, only I can call my fish wife a fish
>>532756129She never looked like a fish to me I dont get the joke
Just did the Sargona fight, it was pretty neat. The energy barriers were just as much use keeping them out as keeping me in. I had Kibbles hop over the top and run around chopping heads
>>532756646She has gills on her neck and fish-like eyes, mentioned the first time you meet her then never again
But all the characters act like it's super obvious
>>532756823>>532756826I feel like they'd keep their distance and be scared of her to not notice the gills but whatever
>>532757000Yeah I agree it doesn't quite work
>>532757072Maybe they had her more fish-like until they cutified her up to make her fit the waifu dialogue more
>>532755253>hordinghoarding
to be fair half the dialogue options with cassia is "stay away from me you mutant freak"
I removed all items from all characters, I review, recheck, reassign and reequip them while also adjusting builds. It's taking ages, I'm doing it since yesterday, but I'm adding more characters as well
>>532760737>Derrek Chauvinust>Combat Servitor HK-47Nice. Are these just a bunch of mercs you've hired? If so, why the fuck do you have so many?
crpg for this feel? https://youtu.be/Cx6icQwFdio?list=RDCx6icQwFdio
I just want to be a necromancer, why am I trying to fuck almost every woman I come across?
Yeah, she kills people, but have considered that perhaps those people DESERVED it? Not so clear cut now huh
>>532762573the simp deserved it yeah
>>532762573Genuinly what is her appeal? I can understand Wenduag to some degree but I'll never get people who unironically Camellia for any other purpose than using her as a lich sacrifice.
>>532761101Yes, mercs. I like to create more units and try different team compositions. Usually I make thematic teams like Arbites force, xenologist force, Inquisition guys Heinrix took with him etc. Princess Yasmela (named after one of the girls from Conan stories) has no weapons and armor for flavor, I like to make suboptimal characters if they appear cool. I use many mods already for more origins and archetypes. I usually spend a lot of time on taking care of my dollies in games that allow me to do so. Games like nuXcom, Kenshi or Pathfinders are particularly bad for me. I couldn't resist this urge even playing skyrim where I always have 3 other companions with me
Any tips for bloodrager? I do a lot of damage sure but my issue is survivability. As soon as an enemy focuses on me I go down and DR doesn't really do jackshit in this game.
>>532762573>She kills peopleShe kills people that work for me without my permission.
>>532760737A fan of the DH lady? Impossible.
>>532763108Reach and lunge
>>532762473bitch she gave you an out
just take that instead of bitching
>>532762573>those people DESERVED itShe kills a Wizard elf at the very beginning who might be innocent. Everyone else is a culprit - confirmed via Aeon's gaze.
>>532762919Her class is strong, you can build her in a myriad of ways to cover whatever role your party needs and she has some pretty amusing interactions with the rest of the party. But yes, unless you're playing an Evil or Chaotic character it makes no sense to keep her around.
Imagine how happy a crime lord would actually be to discover he was a RT's heir.
>>532762473>reeeeeee why am I forced to fuck this hot red head
>>532763337She's Jimmy ex-girlfriend
>>532763416Oh she gave me an "out" alright
>>532763365Does lunge stack with the serpent bloodline reach ability?
I don't understand Wenduag lovers. She's just so unlikable. She isn't even a cute catgirl, but rather some disgusting spider cat mongrel. Sure Lann may be too much of an optimist and make shitty jokes, but he's miles better than spider lady
>>532765998Same people who want to fuck Tau and Kruts
>>532765609It did last I checked.
>>532765998Because I can fix her.
>>532765998she likes it rough
https://youtu.be/5RRDnbHuU4g
required watch if you post here
>>532765124>actually bothered animating table sexDamn, they know their audience
>>532766497Post your shill faggot nonsense somewhere else, you sellout bitch
Underrail, pirates or aegis?
>>532766608What build are you rocking?
>>532766497Not gonna watch your channel, shill-kun
>>532765998If you ever roll a female character, you will learn the truth. I would much rather have the spider cat bitch than Nice Guy Lann begging for pussy
>>532766286>Because I can fix her.Some people just aren't worth fixing.
>>532766497Wow, thanks for sharing anon. It's a great watch!
>>532766981They fixed Lann's flags ages ago
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Reminder that Owlkek is asking people for what act they want DLC 3 & 4 to be in. What are your thoughts & arguments anons?
https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1m934pb/rogue_trader_story_campaign_is_long_if_you_were/
>>532762573everyone deserves to die if it's for her enjoyment
>>532767648Give me the character early and then put the missions in act 3-5 because there needs to be more content there. Especially act 3.
>>532767641? There was nothing wrong with his flags. Played the game recently with all romances switched on in toybox and he's still cringe. That said I would never take wendog over him. She is 100 times more pathetic
>>532767648if they find a way to put iit into act 3, I'd be interested
>>532765998She's the starscream to my megatron in my evilfag playthrough
>>532767648>tell us how you want us to make our gameA clear sign they have no idea what they are doing
>>532767937Nah fuck Act 3, I don't want to spend more time than necessary in Cumrag
>>532767648Just make the companions good waifus with long romances rest doesn't matter
Fuck the Ork faggots, give fuckable female Eldar or Tau or some Imperial bitch that brings good kinks to the table.
>>532704569>Eldar would lose moreIf it was an out and out conflict yeah, but generally the Eldar just do hit and run stuff when doing punitive actions of the sort that are described in RT. On the other hand the Drukhari are already raping your worlds 24/7, especially if you caused the injunction, so it's just that many more of your people getting slaughtered by space Elves, so yeah.
Some decent reactivity for this origin really.
>>532769134they sure fucking suck at it considering all the ones you can kill already
I was about to praise owlcat for making a fairly simple adventure that wasn't a huge pain in the ass for once with lord of nothing and then I got to the shadow world. What the fuck
>>532769080Kill yourself already
>>532769449is that after the goblin tower? I forgot
>>532769623It's the last one after the jungle area where everything is just constantly shitting out ability damage and level drain
>>532769972oh yeah
I really wasn't a big fan of the through the ashes/lord of nothing combo
the transition between the two was kind of jarring as well
>>532766697Tincan shotgun
>>532772431Imagine the seething from big titty taufags
>>532769496>>532770451Answer me this assfaggots. If you offered the community a 10/10 big titted Eldar woman that put out and a fertility godess Tau Water or whatever caste woman over a smelly Ork or Space Marine with a different meme and color as companion choice, do you honestly believe that anyone other than 10% of trannies would pick the Green gorilla and Space fridge over the two breedable waifus?
>>532767648Act 4 definitely, it's the most clearly rushed and unfinished act in the game and it desperately needs more content. Putting the DLCs earlier will also make your character level up way way too much. I was already like level 44 when I went to Comorragh on my current playthough.
>>532773907If we get a tau it's going to look like a real tau and both of you are going to seethe.
>>532773919I don't give a shit about playing with dolls retard.
>>532772431I am not immune to Water Caste propaganda.
>>5327739192 races nobody gives a fuck about vs 2 staples of the setting. the ork himself would leave 2 bimbos in the dust, Space Marine from a popular chapter like the Salamanders even more so.
>>532774238The rest of normal high T people do tranny, you are the seething shit slurping minority.
>>532748794How'd you feel about Glenkildove? I enjoyed it.
Nightroad is next on my list as I enjoyed the author's Pon Para games.
>>532774468I wonder if it tastes sweet since most Tau, especially non-Fire Caste are vegetarians
>>532774084Im not a taufag idc what it looks like
>>532774443>obsessed with trannies and le high Tdo you watch Tate by any chance?
>>532774424>Space Marine from a popular chapter like the Salamanders??????
>>532774424Maybe in an action game, but in a RPG with romance, waifus have primacy. Ork and Marine would have one dimentional stories, Ork is just a meme spouter and Marine is just a chapter stereotype.
Eldar waifu and Tau waifu are flexible and can have various plots and deep character development aside from being loyal concubines to the main human character.
>>532774661he's a tertiary who thinks sallies are popular outside of the youtube/tiktok segment who love them because they think they are le wholesome chungus hug marines
>>532773919Its not a coomer game. Please go play Stellar Blade or that one WEG game
If I gave this much of a shit about romances I would've played a dating sim instead of a CRPG
>>532767648Trazyn DLC they should put in Act 4&5 with giving companion nad his/her quests early. Necrons should stay a late game threat.
DLC 4 they can split between act 2 and 4.
>>532774884You're saying that like most of the video game audience isn't tertriaries who love chungus marines.
I have a feeling that the Necron DLC is going to be the Nenio dungeon of RT.
>>532774939This anon is allergic to dating sims for some reason. He plays 100 hours for a sliver of dolly touching.
>>532774424>Salamanders>PopularAlright man you don't have to out yourself that hard as being a shitposting faggot that knows nothing about 40K.
>>532775060Ik what a secondary is, but what's a tertiary?
>>532775060Actual tertiaries love Black Templars though
>>532775670Someone that only knows about the hobby and setting through memes
>>532775670in 40k terms
>primaryplays the tabletop game
>secondaryexperiences it only via secondary media: books, video games etc. games might even go into tertiary status since at least the books are pretty closely tied to games workshop.
>tertiaryexperiences it only via tiktok, youtube videos, memes etc, usually extreme examples of dunning-kruger effect
>quaternaryonly experiences it via their annoying friend sperging about 40k lore
>>532774891Love Can Bloom and other assorted fics and art about people lusting after Eldar and Tau prove you wrong fag. The 40K fanbase and CRPG fanbase which is full of waifucahds wants this over marineslop and green memes.
>>532776027kys another female eldar romance will be Yrliet 2.0
>>532776027I can't tell if this is bait or actual retardation at this point.
>>532776019Would someone who collects and paints minis, but doesn't play TT matches be considered a primary?
>>532776494more or less, yes. selling plastic at 10000% markup is GW's main business, the rules are just some random shit they have an intern slap together in an afternoon and are constantly manipulated so they can sell excess model stock.
>>532776123No. They would see players disliked her sexless humiliation ritual and know as 40K fans the fanbase carnally desires Eldar women. They will give a haughty Eldar that does put out, maybe add a femdom angle, especially if she is a Crosaur or Drukhari Ynnari. The Tau will be a submissive waifu that will serve your cock dilligently.
>>532776342It's the truth you dumb faggot, go make polls on various forums related to RT and see for yourself.
>>532763337>A fan of the DH lady? Impossible.The one and only
I wanted to make a character with Medicae archetype to test it out
Needed more characters for Inquisition team anyway
She just fit in so nicely
they need to add more sexy companions. more fuckable companions. i pirated lex imperialis to vote with my wallet.
>>532776992I don't care about what other retards like you think, CRPGs romance range from bad to mediocre with meh payoffs, if you actually play a CRPG for the romance you're actually mentally ill and should go find some shit gachaslop with waifus to fill your porn brained addiction.
>>532773919This is the truth. The genre is overrun with coomers and lonely waifu fags, especially after BG3. Look at fucking reddit, it's mostly waifu talk..
>>532777325i hope you know you're the minority. romance sells. people want romance. it's a good thing. being scared of pussy doesn't make you a higher being.
>>532776992Im gonna love your crying when they add Ork or another man
>>532776685>>532776494to be a primary you have to get involved with crunch, collecting minis makes you a high tier secondary
>>532777617Then Owlcat better get ready to cry when it doesn't sell as well.
>>532777325Neither do I care about what low-T-rannies like you think. Sex sells, romance sells. It's not the only thing that matters about the game when playing it, but when the dust settles after, it's the only thing people remember it for. Find me a mass effect thread on this site that isn't about waifus. Good waifus would bring much more people back for another run than Orks and Marines. The 40kiddies that love the setting for marineslop will just play it once, coom to Ulfar on their Dogma 5 everything else 0 run once and never play the game. The actual CRPG crowd loves waifus and will gladly replay it to conquer a new woman.
>>532777617Not gonna cry, Owlcat is stupid if they do this.
>>532777094>onlyNah, I am looking forward to her too
>>532777617It'll be even better if they actually add what they want, then go the Argenta route so they implode.
>>532777769You used that cope with Lex and it still sold well and surpassed the waifubait dlc. Don't forget Ulbrig sold well. Please kill yourself.
>>532777959You are the GW hates elf romancefag its clear by how you type.
>>532777094>The one and onlyNot really, while I am a chuddy Idc that she is a pooskin and hope she is a good character, her concept sounds interesting.
>>532778253>They add the hot Tau or Eldar women>They are non-romanceable like Argenta and just friendzone youWhat's there to not understand.
>>532778384That would be very very funny but I can't the waifufags crying about another female character and how "demoralized" they are.
>>532778079I don't care. I'm right. Owlcat is going to make shitty DLCs and then in a few months they're going to do more surveys and beg people to buy and review the new DLC so they can make more
>p-please review our new dlc so we can make more!>fill out this survey!This is not hyperbole. They have done it before and they'll do it again because they either don't know what their fanbase wants or refuses to give it to them.
>>532777959You're completely right, anon. We are birds of the same feather.
>>532762473...oh, fuck off, I spend half an hour trying to seduce her as a woman and then it turns out she's fucking straight.
Grrr.
>>532778601Blah blah I CANT GOON IN THE FRANCHISE WHERE YOU KILL EVERY NON-HUMAN blah blah
>>532691852stop lusting after demons, Commander
>>532778079>You are the GW hates elf romancefagI'm not you coping schizo faggot, you have no argument so you just resort to pathetic troon identity tactics.
>>532778601Based
>>532779168The female inquisitor will be fucking the Corsair and you be still weeping over Yrliet or that Marazhai was born male.
>>532777959>Sex sells, romance sells. It's not the only thing that matters about the game when playing it, but when the dust settles after, it's the only thing people remember it for. Find me a mass effect thread on this site that isn't about waifus.TRVKE
>>532728874Now I understand the meaning of grimderp
>>532779401>still no argument just schizophrenia & cuckshitOf course trannies think about cuckoldry 24/7
Provide an argument countering what this anon
>>532779423 quoted at least or stfu
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I like Yrliets romance
>>532723602Maive should've been the DLC romance instead of Solobore
This specific romancefag with a persecution complex is the most annoying schizo itt
>>532734678imagine naming your kid "Delsvirftanyon"
>>532779789I just hope the next dlc mindbreaks him too
>>532779906It's a stage pseudonym. He's real name is Biff.
>>532779809Not an argument. I accept your concession.
>>532728874Maive was also cuckoldry. Hot single girl you can't romance for no reason, but can only read about getting space farmered on a ship...What rogue trader wouldn't use her as a sex toy???
>>532780418Do you ever get hit with a flash of embarrassment when you hit the post button
>>532780418I don't think it was cuckoldry but they surely did it on purpose.
>>532780672Shut the fuck up faggot. This is the third time we missed out on a white haired wife.
I cannot kill myself until dark heresy releases and I hate it
>just caught up on the thread
Holy shit.
/rtg/ actually was a good idea. 40slop players are seriously cancer.
>>532780907I think that's why they threw such a shit fit about it, they understand completely that they deserve a containment thread.
Only 3 more months until solasta releases
>>532780907I liked the brief Vampire discussion we had
Is this all the /rtg/ schizo samefagging
>>532780816>>532781085do you not have some discord to drool out your mindless verbal diarrhea in?
>>532691017 (OP)who are the good guys in 40k?
>>532777325>CRPG romances range from bad to mediocreIsn't that a reason to improve and iterate on them rather than abandon them? It is pretty pathetic that the Baldurs Gate and Mass Effect games still have better romances than any modern CRPG, I'll say that. "I did get better, Shepard. I got you." Has still yet to be topped.
>>532782024That kind of person doesnโt want better romances. They just want a single line of dialogue that says they impregnated their waifu.
>>532777959Romancefaggotry is literally the number one reason behind RPG popularity and pretty much always has been. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend Baldur's Gate 2 wasn't way more successful than Icewind Dale because the latter was essentially just a top down combat simulator while the former gave you dark elf pussy and let you defeat a god at his own game.
The only thing people remember from the base game Neverwinter Nights campaign is wanting to fuck Aribeth and the most memorable part of its expansion is that you can not only bang her but also end up in a harem end with the bad bitch drow assassin.
What's the biggest discussion topic for final fantasy 7? Tifa vs Aerith.
What's the biggest discussion topic for every purse owner game? Who's best girl. Asuka vs Rei is eternal for a reason.
Secondaries only know about Baldur's Gate 3 but in Original Sin 2 it was the same shit flinging over Sibelle vs Lohse, original sin 1's endings are focused over whether or not your main characters forged a soulforge between each other or not.
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is remembered for its kick button and Xana's surprisingly loyal and devoted succubus ass.
It turns out that in a genre defined by "slay the dragon, get the girl, be a hero" people care about the "get the girl" part of the fairytale.
>>532781862This might be a hard pill to swallow for some, but there ARE no """good guys""" in WarHammer: 40,000
If you're expecting some kind of Clean moral lines? Heh, kid, you got another thing coming.
WarHammer: 40,000 will subvert every expectation you have.
It's the 41st Millennium, let that just sink in a minute ;)
You just do what ya gotta do to survive, period. Deal with it.
>>532782248kys you didn't even write that
Wow, not one but TWO pastas in a row? You spoil us with your shitposts
>>532782229I will readily admit it is difficult to write a compelling romance in a game where the protagonist is a blank slate, since it is very hard to create chemistry and resonance between two characters when it more or less has to originate entirely from the one you can actually write and give characterization to.
>>532782229keep strawmaning
YWNBAW
>>532782229>They just want a single line of dialogue that says they impregnated their waifu.Thats all you romancefags
>>532782383Pasta, you say?
The main problem with RT is that the combat is fucking boring, even for a TB enjoyer like myself, because it doesn't feel like you're making decisions. What the combat feels most like, is a card game, where you can build your deck the way you want and always draw the same opening hand, with that opening hand always being a one-turn-victory. So every single fight is exactly the same, it doesn't even feel like playing a game.
They try to get around this by making fights with phases, or triggered immunities that force fights to take more than 1 round, but that's just lame.
There are too many ways to do a million damage in one turn in this stupid combat system. To make it even worse, building characters and leveling is fucking boring as well. We have all these hundreds of talents are not only extremely specific, but also completely fucking pointless; I don't even really level 4 of my companions after act 3, because they never get to do anything anyway. I just pick whatever talent happens to be at the top of the list and go with that, it literally doesn't matter.
The Pathfinder games are the same way; the combat is fucking boring, because you just do the same exact overpowered shit in every single fight. Just buff your OTK-guy and then OTK the entire screen. You got all these stats and talents and classes, and it doesn't matter; it's all a mirage, just completely pointless and a waste of your time to read or think about. The combat may as well only be there in these titles so that they don't get classified as point-and-click games.
>>532782337Pasta, you say?
Post Commoragh in general was where the game completely falls apart.
Get to the end of Act 3 and get out of Commoragh only to find:
>Argenta has nothing to say>Abelard has nothing to say (didn't take him to Commorragh)>Pasqal has nothing to say even with xenotech in his chest>Heinrix has nothing to say but at least he had the scene about his Sage friend>Jae's entire personality shift may as well have not even happened even with her request to help her friends>Cassia has a kiss option but nothing about her powers affecting you weirdly>Ulfar only has one new line if you already exhausted everything in Commorragh>Idira has a line about her quest but she also had a scene where she asks for help>Kibellah and Yrliet at least have a new thing to say about what happenedLike holy FUCK
If I were to review this game the lack of reactivity overall, not just here (but here definitely stings the worst so far) I would cut my overall score by 25% of the total, god damn it.
One line per character is all it would take, how was that too much to ask? Say what you will about BG3, but at least the NPCs actually reacted to your class and race choices, and it felt like what your character did was having an impact on your companions all the way up until the Epilogue Party, which completely changes based on what you did with them during the game.
Arcanum didn't need romance, it's just a crutch.
>>532780418>What rogue trader wouldn't use her as a sex toy???A female one
>>532782383Pasta, you say?
Yrliet is a terrible character and since you're asking for examples, how about this?
How about part of her first quest, which is a great example of the problem with her writing in general. You come upon Eldar from Crudarach in a fleeing ship, and you can either leave them to die, blast them, or take them aboard your ship (assuming you pass the skill checks necessary to do so). Let's say you take the latter option, what happens after this is that the Eldar are bumrushed by lower deckers and killed anyway, which highlights the entire problem with how this is written.
The writer has decided that Yrliet needs to be traumatized and sad about both the fate of her people and the cruel, uncaring mon'keigh that victimize them, and they will get that result no matter what, but they don't do so organically, they don't reach this desired conclusion in a way that makes sense. Let's go over all the problems with this contrived scenario: The Eldar would almost certainly never take this deal to begin with, it is nonsensical and insane for them to go on a ship where best case scenario they will be eaten by Slaanesh on the journey through the warp. But let's say the RT is just THAT good at persuasion, or the Eldar are THAT desperate. Is the RT a fucking retard? Why does he not put security in place or simply make sure nobody knows they're on his ship to begin with? And third, how the FUCK are Craftworld Eldar getting bumrushed and killed by a bunch of lower decker scum when they would EASILY overpower thousands of them?
All of these problems are ignored and they just die anyway because the writer has decided that it is going to happen no matter what, and so it does. Very hamhanded, very inorganic, very BAD writing. And this is typical of Yrliets content in general.
Good grief, one schizo started taking his meds, and two other come off of them. Can't you people just synchronize, like women do?
>>532782914Not really, no. It's just another part of the content that at least a significant part of the userbase wants and enjoys. I think the real issue with romances is how subpar and hackneyed they are. Once again, BG2 and the Mass Effect series still have better romances than any CRPG made in the last fifteen years. It is incredible that modern day CRPG studios lack the writing talent to outdo David Gaider.
>>532782914Me x Meadmugg is already the greatest love story ever told
Don't forget that fantasy fiction itself rarely has well written romance, so the entire genre struggles to do this well even outside of CRPGs.
>>532782024I just think most video game romances are like a checklist you do to see content, I don't mind having it in game, but I don't want DLCs to focus around it and shit.
>>532783585There has never been a DLC focused around romances, though, in any CRPG.
>>532783942Citadel. Arguably lair of the shadow broker.
Why do all the elves in warhammer act like elric rip-offs?
>>532539552>cameo is Yrliet>Dark Heresy MC can recognize Yrliet from a past life if you have a Save with RT romancing her>can romance her again in DH RPing as the Rogue Trader reincarnated>the hidden steam achievement is ElantachKino desu
>>532784114Neither is true
>>532784114Citadel gave a ton of companion content in general, and the main focus of it is killing your clone. Even what little romance additions it gave were minimal and no more than what you got for non romance content with the other NPCs. Lair Of The Shadow Broker was in no way a romance DLC, it was a gigantic quest with a really cool environment which culminated in a big battle, and gave funny tidbits about your companions in the computer files as a fluff bonus at the end. Liara being in a romance with you is in no way a major part or theme of the DLC, it's just there if you wanted to pursue the romance from ME1.
>>532778727I didn't think devs even did that anymore. After the success of BG3 isn't it more lucrative to make everything playersexual?
>>532784985Itโs still pretty common to gender lock stuff in more text-based games.
The tremere ending is the best one in bloodlines.
>>532784985I hope DH isn't playersexual. It adds more character with sexualities .
>Aeldari
>Eldar
>Elder
Let that one sink in a minute... 40k is full of this sort of thing.
Did I mention they're "elves"? Well, not your typical fantasy elves. Nothing in Warhammer: 40,000 is typical.
Elves in Space.
They have a special slur for humans too y'know. "Mon-keigh". Sound like any word you know? ;) That's right: monkey.
I seriously don't know how they come up with some of this shit
>>532785259The tremere are animals that need to be exterminated
>>532784985But BG3 was garbage because of that, I just wanted to be a bro towards Gale because he was suicidal and shit not fuck his ass.
>>532785259I prefer Clan Quest's Victoria sabbat ending
where you kill andre for wanting to open the sarcophagus and effectively become the archbishop of LA
>>532785440Seething sabat fag award.
>>532784162Why do you assume anyone here knows who this "Elric" even is?
>>532785518i never understood the sabat hatred of tremere
if anything, they should praise them for actually taking down an ante, however ineffective it may seem
salubri are entirely opposite of the sabat modus operandi anyway
>>532784985You'd be shocked going by online discussions, but the vast majority of people who play these games don't engage with the romance mechanics at all. So I wouldn't call it lucrative, it's more pandering to the faggot crowd who throw hissy fits when x character isn't gay or bisexual.
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>>532785461>giving a late night butt massage to Shadowheart>hear a rustling outside and Gale mumbling about plants loud enough to make sure we hear>look up, he's directly looking at us through a window>Shadowheart mouths "what the fuck" to me>confront him about it later so things aren't weird. >he smirks and squeezes my shoulder a few times, says he "forgives me">later he's organizing ingredients while I look through our supplies>"... that's an often misunderstood aspect of hyena ears, here take a look at this specimen">turn to see his ballsack sticking out of his robe, pressing it flat to look like a "hyena ear">he just stares at me smiling like he's won something>"Yep, good one Gale, got me again"Seriously, why am I travelling with this literal sex offender
Should I install the unofficial patch VTMB comes with?
>>532785259Itโs actually the anarch one where you flip off nines and leave
>>532785259No, the best ending is siding with LaCroix and opening it.
>>532785259Tremere kings rule, sabbat/anarchs droll
>>532785461>Gale because he was suicidalHe wasn't. If he was, he wouldn't need to be talked into killing himself
>>532785754That's not anarchic
that's just saying fuck it to the jyhad bullshit
>>532785461>select the option to sensually look at the sky with a dude while the narrator talks about how gay itโs getting>itโs gay
>>532785717Yes. It fixes quite a bit, as in actual bugs and broken quests. You should also find and install the mod that lets you rape the Japanese schoolgirl.
>>532785952Thanks, rapefag, but I think I'll pass on that last one
>>532785904Itโs a variant of the anarch ending though
Imagine the seethe if DH gives a hot Eldar waifu, but she's a lesbo
>>532786098You will regret this when you cannot make her yours.
>>532785952>You should also find and install the mod that lets you rape the Japanese schoolgirl....Elaborate
>>532786278No RPG has ever have made a remotely attractive romance companion a dyke and no game ever will because even the most pozzed companies are aware of who buys these games. The only lesbian characters I can think of are Sera the downs syndrome elf from DAI and that literal who pajeeta from ME3.
>>532786278I sincerely doubt anyone would care when Toybox exists.
>>532785949>can't just sit under the stars with your friend without having it be gay
>>532786278Add a lesbo only Sister romance too
>>532785660Literally just jealousy that some bum fuck wizards did something they have been trying to do for a millennium
>>532786637Judy from Cyberpunk?
>>532786743why do you spam this shit every thread tranny?
>>532786876they literally had to patch that faggot wizard because any conversation you attempt to have with him would turn into him trying to fuck you
I fucking hate how unless you play a skill monkey, you'll lose every fucking dialogue skill check in Rogue Trader
Such a stupid fucking system
Gale should have been a woman and shadowheart should have been a man.
>>532787020>trannyFemale elves and Sisters will never have sex with you
>>532787080toybox roll 1
or just don't play on unfair, which increases the skill checks of all things for some retarded reason
>>532787080Just take Jae with you, She's the ultimate skill monkey.
Do you guys unironically think it would be good if Owlcat added unironic sex smut content to RT and DH? Like explicitly described sex scenes that you can interact with, pick options for
>>532787080you have invested your skills better
>>532787283romance is already cringe enough
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>>532787173>>532787201The only way is to just fucking cheat, apparently.
And taking specific party members don't help during, for example, the ceremony or while talking to the Inquisitor
>>532787328Shut up faggot
>>532787283No the ugly tiny models fucking is not appealing. Go watch porn if you want sex or learn how to animate in blender.
>>532787521I meant in text
>>532787121you will never be a woman
3d russian vn porn game
oh no
>>532787283yes, because I'm not a zoomer that hates anything sex related in my movies,music or video games
>>532787556No go read real smut or fanfiction
>>532787571No female elf or Sister will ever fuck you
you are morally obligated to cheat 5 levels when starting a new game in WOTR, fuck act 1
>>532787283Baldurs gate 3 proved that this is a winning strategy
>you can he a tremereBVLL ih bloodlines 2
>>532786636There's a mod that lets you Embrace certain NPCs, including Yukie, so you can keep her with you after you finish her quest, after which she hangs out at your apartment and take her with you as a companion that helps in battles.
>unironic tranny getting offended in /vg/
>>532788120A lesbian only Sister romance would cause boiling rage that a lesbian female elf. DH deliver us.
>>532787283I don't see anything wrong with it, sex is a part of romance.
>>532788221>Use toybox>Suddenly I can romance her as a manoh no iam sneething
>>532788284When she calls you a She I bet you will
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is this trader of rogues in my youtube ad ?
>>532788809oh i just saw the logo on the lower left
odd, it is
>hundreds and hundreds of MUH DOLLIES SMOOCHIN posts
are ya winning, son?
There's better be a tremereBVLL exclusive ending in bloodlines 2
>>532790918Nobody is playing BL2
>>532788068You mean the companion mod ?
If argenta was a well written character she would have 1 point of heratic that's never explained.
>>532791381why
it looks ass
>>532791568I like larping as a vampire
>>532791821me too (i've played and watched so many shitty vampire media i am such a vampirecel, horrorcel really) but it looks kinda bad
wait and see i guess but i wouldn't sing it praises before its out
I just got it hieronymus doloroso is supposed to be a reference to hieronymus bosch
>>532783056Honestly it's a decent post and I'll answer because yes, her writing is retarded. She never gets her time to shine, it's just tragic this tragic that. She ends up saving you from Alaitoc by doing Le Very Dangerous ritual and surviving what Farseers dread supposedly.
I'm told that she was supposed to simply flat out betray you at first and run of to the Drukhari, not this whole waah waah my IQ is in the low 80ies crap.
It would have made sense. It would have been a ballsy move. Instead we have this half-baked tripe.
>>532793258waifufags cried over it in the beta
so we got the worst writing imaginable because muh knife-eared cunt no sex girlfriend can't possibly be a traitor
>>532787283No.
Given how cringe the cassia sex scene is, leave that to smut writers.
>>532791568I am going to pirate it, all I lose is a bit of time.
>>532793391Eldar/ elf woman will always draw out the simpiest. I'm glad the next Eldar companion for Dark Heresy is another dude because holy shit I can't take another Rastard
>>532793690Same or more Yrlietfags
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Is this guy voiced by DiMaggio?
Kibbles is so jealous that I didn't fuck her
>>532794515The one and only
>>532794657kibbles is better
How is everyone's dollies doing today?
>>532795457Had to kill half my dollies and the replacements suck :(
You know, I feel a lot of traps and situations in Rogue Trader could be skipped if anyone in 40K knew what a rebreather or oxygen tank/mask is.
>>532795967No anon they were roommates
The Maive thing is another classic Owlcat blunder. They forgot to change her portrait for the corrupt one after you swap bodies
>>532795967All the Calzone fans girls gonna kill themselves
>>532790918>only 4 (FOUR) fucking clans>two of them are the most vanilla generic shit imaginableAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532795967Delete this. Calcazar is NOT gay
>>532796475They said the other clans will be dlcs.
>>532795967He is a radical.
holy shit I didn't expect it to be this low. Everyone is just waiting for DLC 3 and 4 to start a new run, huh?
>>532796138Too bad nobody at Owlcat did
>>532795457it's extremely hot and humid here so of course I am playing Jagged Alliance 3
>>532795967I hope not or I'd be very worried about Jimmy
sometimes I feel like my life is a jagged alliance
>>532797451I gave my money to GOG
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>>532797451no, most people who buy games just don't come back to play post-release shit
>>532796250It still makes no sense because she's the only affected by the fucking ritual.
>>532797451I think its more like people haven't beat the game
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>>532796250You'd be surprised how many people never actually finish big games like this. Even BG3 despite it's popularity had people rarely finishing the game.
>>532797770Through the technique of positive visualization you can get out of any jam
>>532793258Even if you fixed the betrayal Yrliet would still be the worst written character in the game.
Wenduag is worse than Yrliet. She just gets a pass because she gets in bed with you.
>>532798847Yeah, but you can just kill her and not have fags crying about "MUH DOGMACHUDS HATE EVERYONE"
>>532798308BG3 falls off during Act 2 and careens off a cliff in Act 3 so it's not surprising people didn't finish that game.
>>532798919They both have dedicated artfags, must say something about them
>>532799107I thought Act 2 was pretty enjoyable with the Necromancer Paladin dude, then Act 3 was just garbage.
>>532799404That the worst written characters attract mentally ill schizophrenics?
Why did they decide to make bhaal the main god in baldurs gate instead of bane? Instead of le heckin murderino bhaalspawn it couldve been a kino banespawn trying to take over the world.
>>532797801A ritual you don't know shit about. If I saw her portrait change, I would have left her on the planet because there's obviously something wrong with her
>>532800249I mean if the swap ritual fucked her up that badly then the RT should've also gotten similarly fucked up
>>532800226Bane is based and actually has a goal bhaal is just a cringe murderhobo faggot, even the real baal is closer to bane than bhaal.
>>532800080Because they were trying to force a connection to the original BG games, which is honestly one of the worst parts about BG3. They should've just let Larian make their own Forgotten Realms game completely unconnected to the BG saga.
my doll chungus in tyranny is gonna be ranged
do you fellas reckon i should be a javelincel so i can also partake in some melee tomfoolery, or a bowcel so i can actually have an artifact weapon?
>>532800080Because Larian is devoid of originality
>>532800360RT has special MC protections.
>>532800375>They should've just let Larian make their ownplease no i dont want more squid shit that was the worst part of bg3
>>532800372>Bane is basedNo, he's pretty terribly written and characterized, just like more or less all of the Forgotten Realms deities.
A banespawn trying to take over the world is literally the main antagonist. Orin is secondary to Gortash.
I wish you people actually knew the game before trying to criticize it.
>>532800372exactly, he is not conan-esque evil kino
>>532800392Just play a better, actually finished game, would be my recommendation.
>>532800561Hes just a generic lawful evil deity which leaves a lot more room to expand on it and give good writing compared to chaotic evil ones that are almost always terribly written.
>>532800737>oh my science!! *seethes*ok but that doesn't answer my question
"killing people is awesome!" is perfectly fine for an evil god
>>532800847Bane is also terribly written. Alignment is irrelevant, genuinely none of the FR deities are well written or well characterized. Nothing would have changed.
>killing people is awesome!
>>532800080Cause its Baldur's Gate
>>532801128I just want a kino lawful evil game but no game seems to offer that its all just murderhobo evil.
>>532801657Honestly most video game evil is just le random murdering people is fun xdxd type of shit and stupid decisions that would hurt you in the long run
>>532801652He is like Christopher Columbus if he had a dragon
>>532801970Oh right, it's been a while, isn't he like THE BLADE OF THE FRONITER'S ancestor or something
>>532801652A man who turned into a squid
there probably black people who use alter self to be white every day and vice versa
>>532803203I actually did this in a Pathfinder game of Hell's Rebels to make the government look for a ginger halfling leader of the rebellion when I was a black halfling
>>532802680thats not the same guy he just shares the name
>>532801128I liked myrkul in mask of the betrayer
>>532803463Your GM is a retard then since authorities in that world would be aware of such spells and alter their methods accordingly.
>>532804252true sight is pretty high level
>>532804252People know that spells exist but that doesn't mean they have the means to constantly check every citizen for magic use. Couple that with sending spies to spread rumors and fake history and my team was able to craft a fake leader so that we had less heat on us. It was fun
>>532803203haha it'd be so sick to like turn yourself into a girl and prank your buddies by having sex with them lol that would be so funny haha
>>532803203does DnD ever deal with the fact that you can just turn into a girl or guy with easy access to magic? How does taxes work in Forgotten Realm?
>>532804996most people are farmers with 5 hp
places with powerful people have them be in governments too
if you turn yourself into a girl in DnD or PF, then have sex with a dude and he busts in you, then you turn back before it can drip out (to tell him how bad you just pranked him), what happens to the cum?
>>532803203>Bhaalspawn infiltrating the Drow city
>>532805545the answer to "where does this thing go" is usually either 'a random plane' or 'the astral realm' in dnd "space" questions, so the cum probably gets shunted elsewhere
>There are certain dialogue choices you can only access if you have a ranged weapon equipped
>In a game where 99% of people play as a melee character
sasuga owlcat...
>>532806607what game cutienigga
>>532806690Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader
>>532806607I play as a sniper
>>532806780You probably throat cock for a living
>>532806774>rogue trader>99% of people play as a melee characterlolmao
>>532806607I play sniper 2
>>532806607>>532806774>being a meleekekI'll give you a pass if you went subductor AM arby but otherwise this was entirely your fault.
>>532807270>>532807118>>532807098>i need my fwends to take the hits for meyou guys play while sitting on dildos don't you
>>532806607Don't tell me you two hand faggot nigga
>>532807473No, those are anons who picked officer as their starting archetype.
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>>532807573I two hand, play bladedancer and use this portrait
>>532807576Officer is the canon choice for the RT, though.
>>532807473>she does not embrace being a run of the mill human and using heavy firearms like god intendedBet you play psyker too bitch
>>532807806This nigga does ballet.
>>532807473Melee doesn't fit my noble
>>532807842I'm sure you're real fun at parties.
>>532778079>Lex sold well and surpassed the waifubait dlcOnly because the waifu DLC was so good. People bought Lex on the strength of the previous DLC
>>532803203as a bean boy, i forget i'm not white
>>532807473I play a psyker. There are no hits, everyone dies turn 1
>melee combat? i'll leave that for the superhumans or if we're getting pushed back
>>532808167The only reason Void Shadows is good is because it has jean stealers, otherwise it would've been meh
>>532805545Goes into your balls
>>532808268I agree actually, Kibbles was a sideshow to the meat of the action which was the genestealers
People anticipated Lex being substantial like that so they lined up to buy it
>>532808167Or Owlcat has a fanbase. You are retarded if you think Kibbles alone sold the dlc
>>532807806That portrait really does not fit a melee character and a Bladedancer in particular.
>>532808530>you are retarded if...where do you think you are rn
>>532808530No I was just observing that Lex selling more than Void Shadows is not a reflection on Lex itself, but a response to Void Shadows being so well received
>>532805545It goes to the cum dimension.
If you really want to go into hentai tropes, femanon is impregnated and can't change back
>>532808167This is the truth. Void Shadows was the pinnacle of RT as a whole so far, best quests, best content, actual reactivity, everyone bought Lex assuming it would be on par with Void Shadows and that simply wasn't the case. The companion is a bonus thing, the content is the real meat of a DLC and Void Shadows blows Lex out of the water in that regard.
>>532808849holy fucking BASED
When Eldar fart, it comes out as fine crystals of dry ice
Why in the actual fuck are the Greek mercenaries in the HoJ fight absurdly tough for random mooks Inscribia hired?
>>532808783Lex just feels so pointless. Void Shadows actually let you explore your own ship and see how that subset of Warhammer life is like. Lex is just dropping you off at a Feudal world for a few pointless minutes before having you off doing the usual shit you do
>>532787283Only if it could affect the story, and if you get equivalent content for not pairing with anyone. For example getting to play spacepoker with Pasqal and telling him you love him.
In fact there needs to be more romantic same-sex friendships. And by romantic I mean 18th century and Tolkein romantic, not wooing and falling, because then it wouldn't just be a friendship obviously.
>>532809218Well it was GW to sell space cop models
>>532808328so you actually steal their cum for your own?
can you make people pregnant with it?
>>532809382>romantic same-sex friendships
>>532809218Yeah the content is less interesting, with fewer things to do, and simply less content overall. Absolute failure compared to Void Shadows.
>>532809396Goddammit
They took the Sororitas romance and then they took the fucking Black Templar and now they take an entire DLC's worth of content?
>>532809523Yes, it's a form of IVF
>>532809396Darktide did an Arbites DLC too so it must be a GW directive
>>532809640>Took the Black TemplarThat was actually a very good decision on GWs part, a Black Templar would never, ever tolerate some of the things that your RT does.
>>532809945some of us don't play iconocucks and actually kill our dogmatic companions as a heretic
>>532809924It was. You can see they sold new arbites thing
The raid on Captain Sargona's ship was short but perfectly formed
Wrathbros
Does Steelblood still remove Arcane Spellfailure? i want to be an armoured lich but i don't wish to go into Hellknight
>>532810305I didn't like the cutaway to the fag cop and his crew
The next DLC should have another Aeldari companion
The new Darktide class should be an Aeldari
Dark Heresy should let you play as an Aeldari
>>532810347Get tabletop tweaks for the "make armor usable while casting" mythic
>>532810581Same.
Good thing they were particularly short-lived
>>532810645Dark Heresy should require you to have a gay romantic relationship with an Eldar to get the best ending
oh god, this fight is so annoying
>>532810893It's not gay if it's an elf
>>532811063Has it been nerfed? The gas seemed to disappear on its own when I replayed, no need to ventilate
Why shouldn't I pick Fighter?
>>532811063rush with a guy to turn off the gas and then hold a flank
>>532811063Anvers fights are the only decent fights in the game, after that your party just scales way past everything they fight and there's never a single interesting combat section for the entire rest of the game.
>>532811063wait, cassia can get the cyber eagle?
>>532798919DONT YOU SPEAK ILL OF MY SPIDER-CAT
>>532811317Yep I gave it to her because she wanted a bird
>>532811063>Cassia with a eagleI was thinking about doing since officer has a special move with it. Is it good?
>>532811449she doesnt act like that
>>532811520I thought she could only get a servo skull swarm
>>532811534I mean, it's another AoE attack you can do a turn if it doesn't die when it gets AoO'd.
>>532808590Uhmm Chuddy, have you heard of a little thing called subverting your expectations?
>>532811784Nope, eagle too
>>532811063I always save those stimms that give immunity to toxic damage you get if you do that little lab puzzle in Eurac V for this fight specifically. Makes it much easier.
finally
fucking initiative
i miss my gs pasqal already
>>532812290cassia should have high initiative all the time
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I gave this dude Power Armor proficiency just because it looks so fucking cool.
>the spehs mehreen is the weakest companion in RT
lol
ASStartesfags shat on
>>532814152The fuck are you talking about? Ulfar is really strong. The weakest companions mechanically are Pasqal, since Operative is shit, and Marazhai, since his prebuilt selections are unbelievably garbage.
guess I might as well play a role
I think I'll take Jae for this run. Think I'm going to maximize the loyalty/mercenary aspect.
>>532814496Pasqal have really strong plasma nodes though
>>532814152I'm finding that too
>This one is mine, Aett-Father!>*dies*I guess I don't know how to build him
>>532814750He wears power armor but, like Pasqal, can't stack deflection to heaven like a Vanguard Abelard can. The end result is he dies really quickly in spite of having so much health because he's a giant walking target that has to get in close to maximize the arch-militant versatility stacking.
Decided to get back into RPGs with Rogue Trader. Very disappointed that the first boss literally cheats and thereby forces you to do the fight in exactly one way or die. Are all the bosses like this?
>>532814496Technically Yrliet too as an operative uis not too hot and Abelard is perfectly viable but not great.
Ulfar stat boosts and being allowed to use heavy weapons means that the only advantage Argenta has is her hymn and not being a fatass
Hmmm today I will talk to Ulfar
>HAIL AETT-VATER I AM A WOLF OF FENRIS TWICE BORN IN THE ICY DEPTHS OF HEL AND SANG GLORIES TO THE VALKYRIES IN VALHALLA FOR THE ALLFATHER VIKING VIKING VIKING VIKING
just give me a fucking minotaur next time
>>532816668>Boss cheats? The chaos Spawn? It just has a conditional ability
>>532816668If you mean the chaos spawn then no most bosses are not like that. They don't usually have a gimmick
>>532816912>Argenta has is her hymn and not being a fatassUlfar is much more limited in item selection. Compensator gloves alone makes Argenta a better Ulfar.
Dlc idea, xenos mercs. Winterscale has them so i know owlcat can add some in for us
>>532816668No that one is atypical
You might find levelling up utterly baffling, but take your time and think about the talents and it becomes clear. Don't be afraid to totally respec by taking to Janris Danrok, the High Factotum, on the bridge and asking for training
>>532816942GW are faggots who killed Astartes, are trying to force women into an extremely male-appealing franchise for big pussy bucks, and are trying to force their shitty neo models onto their fans
>>532817375If he already kills with Improved heavy bolter , the gloves are superfluous
>>532816668>got filtered on the tutorial boss
>>532817543it's almost like he doesn't
>Blood Raven companion
>Items keep disappearing from inventory until you confront him about it
>>532817454CHADterscale is the main character, you are just some fag who gets raped then becomes the inquisitions bitch
>>532817717>huh? what do you mean my most valiant rogue trader? this blessed ship was always a frigate of the blood ravens>game over
>>532817636Then you suck enormous ass at handling him
Spacewolves are so lame, viking slop is slop
The best space marines are the word bearers since lorgar is the protagonist of warhammer 40k
the best space marines are the raven guard
>>532818169>night lords but worse and gayer
>>532811071And so it is written
>>532817081It cheats the turn order and interrupts your turn to do so.
>>532817598I wouldn't mind so much if the game was that difficult throughout, but all the big the encounters outside the tutorial have been a cakewalk in comparison. For reference, this is a first playthrough blind on daring difficulty.
>>532817472>Don't be afraid to totally respec by taking to Janris Danrok, the High Factotum, on the bridge and asking for trainingYeah I'm struggling to wrap my head around party composition. There are more party slots than archetypes and most of the talents seem to be highly conditional with very specific synergies in mind.
There is no god but Erastil and Jhod Kavken(PBUH) is His prophet
>>532817717He was always our elder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nge64vQC0aQ
>>532818615>talents seem to be highly conditional with very specific synergies in mind.A lot of them are. It's usually about building up stacks of various conditions then exploiting them. Some classes have a key stat eg bladedancer with Medicae, and you can boost that to absurd levels during combat, and output tremendous amounts of bleeding damage
It will all make sense with a bit of experimentation, and don't be afraid to use a guide
In the early game it may seem that you're very short of cash (profit factor) but that quickly changes and soon you're swimming in PF
>>532817941>Get told they can't use black templars because it doesn't make sense for the setting(Well done GW)
>Use the annoying ass wolvesI guess Storm wardens wouldn't be as iconic.
>>532819242uhh i think you meant xenophilic
>>532708696>aggressive acupunctureAint that just shanking people
Melee Yrliet
Sniper Abelard
Healbot Idira
>>532724569First time setting up a machine gun, perfect spot for it. Kalyna just made a long range headshot so there should be some action in the road soon.
Igor and Mouse followed a guy into a house and silently murdered him, now the rest should be clean-up. I should've gone here first honestly, the last sector I took with the bunker was brutal, reinforcements (theirs) arrived at one point too.
It did make me finally take a day to rest, almost everybody had at least 3 wounds, so significantly impaired AP and aim and health and just about everything.
Patched up to full at the cost of a day. If I can't come across ~20k by the time their contracts are up, that's it for me, and next time I'll start with a smaller team of 3-4.
>>532819710Indeed
>>532817941All space marines are lame
Why does Kibellah always sound like she's on the verge of the most intense orgasm of her life?
Jae loves her skull swarm
>Oooh it's time for them to run, my sweet!
>Two are better than one
>*it takes damage* Don't worry, I'll tighten your screws :D
>>532813526I like using the skitarii gear, it looks so nice on your RT
>>532820201To keep waifufags entertained
they should have called it skibidi gear lmao
>>532820292Cassia, on the other hand, fucking hates her cyber pets
>Come on, do something!
>>532820035What is this
It looks so cool
>>532820201The VA's only direction was
>you are the character's love interestthen they handed her a stack of lines to read
None of the "girl without a sense of self, on the verge of a breakdown" stuff was actually voiced to the VA never got any direction about that.
>>532820552Jagged Alliance 3
Things were going pretty well.
I thought I had a good team put together. Aurora went down without a problem. All the synergies were kicking in.
Then this random fucking gang boss with a power hammer walks up and 1 shots my RT who was all in on health and armor. Next turn he aoe one shots 3 more people and both birds. And to make matters worse he had like 30 guys behind him. Now everyone is crippled and I'm down 2 full med kits.
Is this what the whole game is going to be like?
>>532820482>Neither of us has to fight alone anymore
>>532820757That's a notoriously tough fight, so no not necessarily, don't blindly run into them, let them come to you, use grenades
There's 3 directions you can fight that group from, I like doing it from the back so I can firebomb them as they come up to us
>>532820848Don't know, I'm not the anon posting it, but I recognized it.
He seems to like it but I think I'll wait for a sale
>>532820757Oh wait I just saw that you won it already, nevermind
>>532821048It looks so cool... so many little videogames to play...
>>532820757>Is this what the whole game is going to be like?Lol no, that's the toughest fight in the game
Cinder with his hammer and the gang with the fire grenades are famously overpowered
Just come back after a few levels and you'll smoke them.
Or approach them cautiously as anon suggested
Once you kill them, Abelard can make good use of that hammer.
>>532820757We told you about Anvers bro
We warned you dog
And no, that gang is just one of the toughest fights in the game for some reason. Most of it ranges from mildly challenging to disappointingly easy.
>>532820482She has no luck with animals
>>532820482Annoying bint
She wanted a bird, I got her a bird
This one doesn't even shit so she has nothing to clean up
It charges up from the wall or something
I hate the eagle because it plays badly but also
>give that nigga 2 heads!!!
is STUUUPID
>>532820757oh, Cinder is pure bullshit
like, he clears you even on easy if you don't kill him or his allies fast enough because he gets buffed whenever he takes damage and has friends
>>532821476Is there a pet tier list. I've only used the swarm and Gelato and im not a fan of the dog.
The virgin rogue trader fears the CHVD CVNDER
>>532821659Nyo because most players are really fucking stupid (doesn't matter what difficulty they play on) so information can be somewhat unreliable, and a lot of "buildmakers" crutch mega hard on things but now I'm ranting
Essentially the eagle is kinda bad
The dog is okay but kinda just fucking dies to shit (like the eagle but the eagle has other problems)
The cyberskull is for officers
The raven is for psykers who actually have buffs otherwise it's just sort of a meme because your pyromancer is getting nothing out of it
Operatives shouldn't take overseer at all
I can explain more about whatever you like
>>532821659I find raven is great for Idira
Turns her into an AoE beast by relaying her powers, when fully activated by heroic ability
>>532821889>Operatives shouldn't take overseer at allBut I made Pasqal that
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>>532821889>dog is okay but kinda just fucking dies to shitYeah I'm finding this
>Gelato, attack!>*dies*
>>532822454Ruh oh act 4-5 content. I want them to flesh out those acts but waiting that long for dlc content aiee.
>>532821659raven>=servoskull>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else. being able to warp speed your entire party on the first turn is insane. that's 6 casts/turns and 12AP worth of action economy in one shot.
>>532820848I'm having fun with it. It's a little jank but not unacceptable, and it's mostly just dumb stuff like I will hit the wrong button to loot/salvage/interact instead of "walk here" just some minor dumb things like that.
There's lots of line of sight and cover type things, like you can stand, crouch, go prone, and these have impact on what you can hit etc.
Trying to hit someone through a window you'll have to target their head, things like that.
There's good and bad but overall I like it.
You do get really badly punished (as you should) for dumbfuck moves like putting my doctor right in the middle of the fucking road for some reason.
But there's also a pretty wide range of difficulty settings.
Don't expect things like your mercs taking you aside and having a romance arc or something. Though they do at least at first seem to respond a LITTLE to some decisions you make, not sure if eventually that will turn to not willing to work with you or things, I think that happened in JA2 a bit, but I'm still on Tutorial Island.
>>532822091Congratz you can............................. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Spread exploits to maybe 2-3 guys I guess???
>>532822738Yeah the pets don't have actual gear like you and their stats are shit, they just fucking die
I knew this would happen btw because owlcat doesn't play the game so they don't know how rocket tag it is (be invincible or die)
You gotta buff your pets if you want them alive, he's better than the eagle though because trying to use the eagle's ability (obstruct) oneshots it
>>532822738the barking out of combat for pointing out lootable objects drives me fucking nuts with glaito. its volume is like 3x all of the other pets and ambient noises. reminds me of skyrim.
>>532822893also to be clear "you" don't really exist in the game, it's only mercs you hire. You're just the disembodied entity paying them and directing them in combat. I wonder if this has ever been addressed in the lore
>>532822893Isn't there a massive amount of whacky reddit humour in JA3?
>>532823017not that anon but i think operatives are over-hated. they drop off endgame when everybody is really OP but expose weakness is really strong all the way through act 2. makes things like turrets and bosses very vulnerable to basic melee strikes. was able to one-turn the demon engine encounter on the haunted ship by stripping all of it's armor with pasqal and letting kibellah blade dance it one time.
>>532823503It has nothing to do with operatives, the servo-skull just doesn't do anything outside of duplicate officer buffs (even dupicating double-turns is kinda shit because it picks targets at random), it's worthless otherwise
>>532823503By the way you don't use your stats for your little pet nigga at all, so all your perception and INT is doing jackshit via your skull (this goes for officers too, they can safely dump FEL, freak system)
>>532823357Not so far that I've seen.
But also, isn't there a massive amount of wacky reddit humor in BG1&2 and Fallout1&2 and Wasteland 3? It's just kind of how things were in the 90s/00s.
This came out in 2023 but it calls back to that time. But not so wacky from what I've seen so far anyhow, less than Wasteland 3 really.
I want to play a skill monkey next playthrough and never miss a single skillcheck ever again no matter who's in my party
Can I do this as arbitrator?
>>532824171You can't do that as anything unless you're Jae, so no. You only get 4 skill level-ups per archetype (with some exceptions)
Just cheat with toybox and set it all to 200 (minus ones that have combat applications if you want to be fair, level those manually)
>>532823357what's the matter with a little whimsy in your games, anon? is that shit for babies and you're a big boy who only plays grimdark dollies?
>>532824408>>532824161I don't know how to explain this but I feel like there's a difference between genuine distilled 90s/00s funnay and soulless 30-years-later slop that tries to recreate it
Kind of like the reason why original old pieces like swords or relics have invaluable price but if you recreate it today down to the exact same molecule it isn't the same
>>532824403>You can't do that as anything unless you're Jae, so nogay as fuck
>>532824641In the 00s they just said what they thought was funny, now they're trying to imitate something and therefore it doesn't work.
>>532824018>>532824161sorry didn't read the context of the conversation. i've never paired it with overseer. my pasqal is usually a grand strategist so he can use the INT and PER.
>>532824859Again, just cheat!!! (if you're not on console)
You have the power to un-rape games from developers retardtism decisions! (if you're not on console)
You should do it all the time
Give yourself pasqal's talents
Give yourself item passives you think should be talents, give yourself proficiencies
If I knew how to mod I would but I don't so this is the best I can do
jae has a unique dual-wielding talent btw
>>532825018I am doing that right now yeah, but I wanted to know if there was a legit way.
>mfw a 40sloptard mistakenly targets your post
>>532824859In regards to making items as talents 'fairer' (although a lot of them are too strong for that IMO) I just pick some random knowledge skill and pretend I picked what I wanted (like the new meltagun helmet that makes them ever so slightly less shit... which you get in late act 4????)
Cheat
>>532825179Sadly no. Even Jae doesn't cover every base, she just gets to make a ton of shit rely on fellowship because why not
>>532824171you can cover 90% of the skill checks with a voidborn origin INT build using the "Be Smart" talent. will only leave you weak on STR/TGH/AGI checks, which are easy enough to cover with multiple characters so you don't feel so constrained.
>>532825259You're never really hard-investing on INT unless you're pasqal, you can't turn it into BS or dodge reduction like he does, so you're still lacking on the skills you don't invest in as that (you could do it as an officer I guess, since those are buffbots and don't need to invest in actual combat stats)
>>532824408its not that i'm opposed to jokes in my games, its just that more often than not they try way too hard to be funny and the jokes fall flat and there is nothing more obnoxious than someone loudly telling a very unfunny joke
>>532824859yeah mandated party members are incredibly homosexual
>>532825473>you can't turn it into BS or dodge reduction like he doesAddendum, you can if you cheat btw (PLEASE CHEAT it can solve so much bad design)
>>532810653thanks Anon
>>532810723taking a whole ass Mythic for something Divine gets for free is gay, also Mods tend to nerf stuff way to much and that is equally retarded given how retarded the enemy stats are sometimes
>>532825235You should be glad about getting any attention at all.
>>532825706>taking a whole ass Mythic for something Divine gets for free is gayIt lets you use more and more DEX for your AC as your mythic level gets higher
>also Mods tend to nerf stuff way to muchTabletop tweaks is entirely(entirely) modular
>>532825516I get that. Actually I was sort of expecting that as well, and now that I think about it I remember a trailer giving that kind of impression.
But no, there's really nothing like that at least so far. Again I'd say it's less wacky than Wasteland 3 for sure.
There's some silliness here and there, but nothing that stands out too much. Here's some silly villagers.
And I just fixed some guy's projector. There's a lot of overhearing conversations which I think is fun.
I like how the villagers just started appearing after I busted up the Legion.
Honestly, operative psyker kind of sucks.
The 1 attack per turn limit is just way too damn limiting. I need at least 3 attacks per turn to feel like an actual DPS.
>>532825706Oh yeah also, there's another thingey you can do with TTT, I've so far been talking mostly about the homebrew version of armor mastery (5% extra anti-arcane spell failure on every armor you wear per mythic rank, +1 dex to AC allowed per rank too, and I think it deals with skill check malus)
But it also adds the actual proper tabletop version, which is..... well. It's something.
There are 3 tiers and you need to pick them in order, so light then medium then heavy, that's a big investment.... but they completely negate every single aspect related to armor and make it so you're basically wearing armor bracers
It's a bit strong for my taste to do what I'm about to suggest, but you could get the mod and then simply use toybox to allow yourself to pick heavy armor mastery (mythic thingey) without picking the previous two, as mythic abilities are in short supply
Bam you have heavy armor with zero downside, if you'd like to do so
>>532826196Operative psyker isn't bad if you go for either assassin (you can still do the whole lethality direct damage stacking thing for silly numbers, it works on psyker powers too) or as a sort of peril-maxing bounty hunter (what people would always do with idira pre-overseer), but yeah being a soldier and using a ton of moves every turn feels way better
I'm particular to soldier AM psyker, instead of soldier MT like some people do
>>532826794It's supposed to go with bounty hunter
and it can only really go with bounty hunter
>>532826956Not true, executioner operative shreds through enemies because of how scouring whatever and burst-fire weapons interact, but it's a bit boring
You shoot into a crowd and they just die, executioner doesn't deliver too well on the whole 'damage over time' aspect
Also operative grand strategist of course, but that's indeed about it, assassin operative is in a lot of ways just assassin warrior but a lot worse
>>532826195I still haven't decided what kind of mercs we are...
I think we're greedy but not "I don't like you, die" evil. Reasonable humans, but also looking to get paid. Especially with the contracts deadlines coming up, oof. I still could be facing essentially a game-over without even knowing it, if I can't produce the funds.
If it gets down to it, just to try and push the game further, I'll let go of a few mercs and sell some equipment, though I haven't found a place to buy or sell yet. Hoping this village is it.
>>532827314that guy looks so sad...
give him a hug, look at him
>>532827314Hmm, a bit of plot. We aren't the first group of mercs to take this on.
>>532827386He's lucky we drove the Legion out, he should be happy now he gets to pay us instead!