>What the heck is this
/indie/ is the general for all indie games, such as Pragmata, Age of Decadence, A Hat in Time, Axiom Verge, Baba Is You, Battle Brothers, Card City Nights 2, Cave Story, Civilization, CrossCode, Cultist Simulator, Darkest Dungeon, Darkwood, DashBored, Dead Cells, The Desolate Hope, Disco Elysium, Environmental Station Alpha, FTL, Hollow Knight: Silksong, Knytt, LISA, Lobotomy Corp, Loop Hero, Machinarium, Middens, Monolith, Monster Train, Noita, OFF, OneShot, Rimworld, Rain World, Scav Prototype, Slay the Spire, Starsector, Subnautica, Sunless Skies, Underrail, VA-11 HALL-A, Yume Nikki, etc., as well as other games that just don't fit in any other general such as Atelier, Pillars of Eternity, Rayman, and Valkyria Chronicles. /jrpg/ is welcome. Idle, roguelite, shmup, 4x / RTS / city-builders, and RPGMaker games are cool too.

Mobile or consoles, Flash or Unity, freeware or early access. This place is a home for the indie game community and indie and obscure games that don't have a home. So be free to talk and share all your hidden gems, forgotten games and starving devs here.

>Can I talk about games that already have a general?
We mostly discuss games that are not popular enough for their own threads, however, all indie games are allowed. So talk about them if you want, but don't overdo it since you already have other generals for that.

>Recommendations
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https://indiegame.booru.org/

>Steam Group
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/indiegamesgeneral

>Previous Thread
>>531615448

Ah, Earth Dancer! Your dance has brought me joy and happiness. In gratitude, allow me to bestow upon you this recipe.

>>532702934
typo

Yea or nay

>>532704216
Not worth pirating.

>>532704216
that shit's still getting updates? good for them i guess
tried it, really couldn't get into it. you need a particular sort of autism i do not have
needing to properly online a reactor was kinda cool at least

spent 5 hours adding porn mods to Starbound and not only these mods suck ass but the game itself also sucks ass

>>532707156
Should've just gone with FU and stopped there

>>532707156
There aren't even enough mods for it to take 5 hours what the hell were you doing

>>532707576
*and playing

>>532702934
Milky is my spirit animal.

>>532707156
why the fuck would you mod Starbound to add porn, just play Skyrim or a dedicated porn game
Better yet, play a actual video game and some teribad porn game that should be destroyed

>>532709060
Sometimes the mind's in the mood for pixelart.

>>532712248
Just play pixel art porn games.

>>532712542
With porn mods, they're added onto the game. If the porn is bad, you can still take it out and have the rest of the game. With porn games, the porn is the game, so if one is bad, all of it is bad. And there are many, many bad porn games. But with mods, it's built on top something you're already familiar with and enjoy.
Of course, this only works if you're not a goddamn moron and don't mod games to the gills before you know if you even like it.

>>532713759
>With porn mods, they're added onto the game. If the porn is bad, you can still take it out and have the rest of the game.
With that logic you might as well just play without porn mods. Porn mods are always shit, they're just clunky, unfinished and awkward messes added to the game. They never complement the gameplay, story and characters of the base game. Porn games on the other hand, deliver a complete immersive experience from start to finish (most of the time). They provide a completely different feeling compared to porn mods that are the literary equivalent of fan fiction.

>With porn games, the porn is the game, so if one is bad, all of it is bad. And there are many, many bad porn games.
Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is bad. Regular games have plenty of bad shit too. There are plenty of actually good porn games, you just have to know how to find the good stuff. Following that logic most porn mods are bad too. Why bother using them?

>But with mods, it's built on top something you're already familiar with and enjoy.
Like I said, it's better to just enjoy the game separately instead of adding porn that feels like it was just duct taped on or superglued onto the game. The whole should be greater than the sum of its parts. For me, porn games provide an interactive storytelling experience, like a cooked dish with great ingredients that fully complement each other, perfectly cooked to deliver a complete taste. Good games with porn mods are just good dishes that you dabbed shitty sauce on, ruining the taste.

Talk about good game? I play katamari damacy 2 and it's good.

I've played a lot of holocure recently. The only things I'm missing is 10 fan letters, one of the legendary equipment and 30 gachikoi ranks.

>Plays a PUZZLE game with some rogue-lite elements
>Cries when after 100 hours the game doesn't magically become entirely rogue-lite
>Is too stupid for anything more than the most basic and childish level of puzzle
>Cries when the puzzle difficulty starts to reach intermediate
Why are some people like this? Just watch a real puzzle game player play Blue Prince on YT instead, like Aliensrock, instead of playing games of genres you obviously don't enjoy and expecting them to magically morph into one that's more your speed.

>>532720032
Who are you talking to?

>>532720807
Anyone who needs to hear it.

Seriously. No one here has an opinion on undermine?

>>532724270
It felt fine. Nothing amazing.

Undermine 2 demo on the other hand felt sluggish. Not because of lack of endgame upgrades I had in 1, but on basic level it felt sluggish and clunky.

>>532724537
Any games like that comparable to Raksasi?

I don't get how trainwiz can make his game run so bad.

Like, there's
>good optimization
>bad optimization
>no optimization
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> (near infinite gap)
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>underspace
It looks worse than Freelancer (2003) but doesn't get playable FPS on a modern GPU (2023)
That's gotta be a record of some sort.
I bet I could start a new scene in unity editor, import some underspace ships and it would render 50 times faster than underspace.
As Bubbles would say, something's fucky.

>>532729934
Ran at a solid 60 for me when I turned ambient vehicles off. I think only the fight against the cube god gave me bad FPS.

>>532729934
works on my machine

>SVP
>SVP
>SVP
>SVP
>SVP
help

>>532729934
Weird, I never got any issue with it.

I think I'm falling in love with this game. I've bounced off it twice but I'm breezing through it and having a great time right now.
The only thing I hate, and it happened twice now, is having a platforming section right at the edge of the screen, where it constantly shifts perspective. That shit's frustratingly disorienting.
Also fuck I love the setting and environment. Swimming past the huge machinery in the background of Shoreline was the shit and now climbing through what I assume is a huge computer facility or some shit.

I think I'm falling in love with this twink. I've bounced off him twice but I'm breezing through his clothes and having a great time right now.
The only thing I hate, and it happened twice now, is having a to fight his sister right at the edge of the screen, where it constantly shifts perspective. That shit's frustratingly disorienting.
Also fuck I love his butt and low pain tolerance. Spanking him is causes my huge machinery in my pants to raise, it's the shit and now splitting through what I assume to be the moon or some shit.

>>532733685
>and now climbing through what I assume is a huge computer facility or some shit
you're just getting to the best part

>>532704216
shit
play neoscavenger, it at least has gameplay and long term goals
this game is just unfinished, and the only gameplay loop is "fly to a derelict - scavenge for good parts - install a singular additional tile of space into your ship - sell the rest"
and it's no the fun kind of gameplay loop like in cosmoteer or reassembly, it's tedious, boring, takes a lot of time and you barely notice the progress
really, if you want to play as s space scavenger, either go for reassembly (there's a whole faction that's focused on farming space plants and you can even grow them on your own ships) or cosmoteer (and it also comes with fun building where you actually have to think to make effective ships and pretty good combat)

>>532735279
I assume this is the best part I have no clue what it means
Unfortunately I was already aware of this robot's existence through osmosis, though I'm not 100% sure what the next step is. She didn't like the pearls I've tried to give her and I don't have anything else.
The yellow guy seems to be leading me off somewhere new so looks like that's my next best bet

>>532704216
The simulation is too granular for me.

>>532736219
Please don't eat her

I was sure this water would be safe and too shallow for this fucker, what the fuck. I'm lucky it fucks with his mobility and I could just dive under him
>>532738639
I tired to grab her and take her with me, but no luck.
She was very unhappy about me grabbing her flying glowbugs so I decided not to do that either Also, unfortunately, I vaguely remembered some anon saying he ate those and it didn't end well

>>532704216
I like chore simulators like this, butt I'm waiting for it to come out in 1.0 and then judge if it's for me

Holy shit, this is fun as fuck. Not to mention the joy of just finding this shit out by myself.
To bad in this particular instance it just opened up a leech infested shortcut to a place I was trying to get away from, but this makes traversal on the surface so much more fun.
Also I thought I should go back to the Industrial Complex to explore in some other direction, because it seemed like I found all there is to find in Shoreline, but yellow guy insisted that I should go back.
I'll be honest, I'm not sure I understand what exactly I'm looking for. Something about those glowy things around the robot, I'm either supposed to charge them with something, find more of them or eat their evil clones or some shit. I'm just a silly cat dude.

>>532700163 (OP)
I can't wait for the Diana porn.

>>532744805
>I'll be honest, I'm not sure I understand what exactly I'm looking for
That's the beauty of it, enjoy it while it lasts

>>532745039
I can't wait for the Diana spanking.

>>532750074
I can already feel how this is one of those games that will "ruin" other games for me by being so god damn unique and good at it's very specific niche. The other day I saw a trailer form some cutesy creature collection game that talked about how the different creatures interact. And one of my first thought was how it doesn't look nearly as interesting to me as Rain World.
Same happened with player-driven hands-off exploration and Outer Wilds or player choices and Pathologic 2. Other games just can't compete

Don't have any new screenshots to bump the thread off page 10.
Here's one I took earlier, thought it's cool that there is a destroyed shelter in the game. Which also makes me wonder how the other creatures survive the rainfall. I guess I've seen scavengers and lizards go into shelters before and some of the tubes are inaccessible by the player but could possibly lead to some safe spaces.

>>532757720
>Here's one I took earlier, thought it's cool that there is a destroyed shelter in the game.
it's even cooler - it's broken during survivor's time specifically, and it still works when monk was around
>Which also makes me wonder how the other creatures survive the rainfall.
all creatures have their own dens if you haven't noticed, you just can't enter them.

Oh neat. I wondered if there are multiple paths tog et to the same area. I'm assuming I could have gone through here instead of Garbage Wastes and Shoreline. I would assume it's quicker, if you know what you're doing.
Also I really hope whatever I'm looking for is in here, and it's not just the yellow guy's fucky pathfinidng leading me to Industrial Complex, where I was heading anyways, before he lead me here
>>532758240
>spoiler
interesting. I didn't think the characters had changes like that between them. Only played the survivor so far

I still await an indie game that gives me as much powerful freedom as CoE5 and the ability to travel to other planes of existence and do battle with literal gods.

>>532762627
Keep waiting, bitchboy.
I'm also still waiting for CoE5 to have balanced starts so that I don't start every game surrounded by neutral buildings I can't use.
>pick baron
>no villages in sight, only forests
>pick druids
>hellgates all around
>pick demonist
>menhirs and mines around
>pick dwarf
>suddenly in the middle of nowhere
>pick Chakan
>no villages for bloody sacrifices
So frustrating.

>>532762838
That is the power of RNG, anon. Sometimes it screws you over.

>>532762965
This is stupid.
Age of Empires 2 also has RNG maps, but it never fails to give all players a balanced start.

>>532763069
AoE2 and CoE5 are two different beasts entirely, anon. If it really bothers you, however, just play a custom map. There's plenty of balanced ones out there. I really enjoy Disc World.

>>532763236
It wouldn't fix the issue of random generation sometimes offering you a win on a silver plate, or fucking you in the ass without even lubing you up first or proper foreplay.

>>532767223
That game reminds me of a game I played a long, long time ago, but I don't remember what. I think it was a flash game. I remember the color orange and some sort of flying vehicles. Either way, fun game, I'd give it a shot.

>>532763403
Speaking out of experience, Spiderfag?

>>532767423
Was it Cortex Command?

>>532769045
It could of been, but I don't think so. It wasn't cartoonish looking.

>>532767423
There was a bunch of flash games with similar style, but gunsaw is definitely different because of it's physicality
That line originating from the center of the crosshair is where your barrel is actually pointing. Walking, shooting, etc doesn't increase the total spread, instead makes your gun sway around - depending on it's length, ergonomics and your character's handling skills. This adds a lot of complexity, i.e. different weapons have different recoil and movement spread patterns you can play around if you're good enough. And to make sick trickshots like this - instead of aiming you predict how the gun and character's body will react to movement, and then fire at the right time.

>>532769045
Is there a "Cortex Command but good" game yet?

What is it with god damn game sizes these days?
Just wanted to download a Demo and it's 70 gigs. Am I getting old that I find this very big for a game? And I'm aware there are games even bigger than that now.

>>532770270
>70 gigs
That's the entire fucking game
You just need to crack it to unlock the rest

>>532770270
Bloat is the future you chose.

You don't get 10x more content by going from 7 GB to 70 GB.
You don't get 10x better fidelity by going from 7 GB to 70 GB.
But game companies will ignore any diminishing returns because suckers will gladly accept 0.1% gains in exchange for 1000% bloat, be it filesize or compute requirements.

Software industry is completely fucked. The only thing that could stop this path of development is a lengthy world war that destroys all high end semiconductor fabs for decades and honestly I'm not sure if even that would be enough.

Oh and personal computing as you know it is also going to die within decades. Think that's exaggerated?
Normalfags already 100% accept their retardphones that they have zero control over and zoomies are completely unable to comprehend computers. Being able to run any unsigned software from any source is way too big of a freedom. It will be gone, mark my words.
Hell, half of you faggots will probably be happy with your Steam console.

We had a promising future ahead of us but somehow everything went to worse shit than dystopian fiction could ever have imagined. Retarded normalfags got into the internet, killed actual useful smartphones with touch shit and the global cultural idiocracy keeps getting worse. My god, entire generations are already lost. And there's nothing you can do about it.
You can only watch.

Okay, but what the fuck do they eat?
I'm down to one food at minimum karma and have not found a single thing to eat so far (unless there is a way somehow turn those flashbangs edible).
I think the part leading up to this was the only time I was ever frustrated on this run. Something about just felt hard but in a very unfun and frustrating way.
I wonder if you can soft-lock yourself there if you run out of spears

>>532733685
Good job, you beat the great filter which is playing the game after dropping it once.
Everyone started the game with specific expectations and when the game happened to be nothing like that they dropped it.
Once you accept that you know nothing about this game and that you're shit at it, then you can start enjoying it for real.

>>532770675
I mean it's not expensive game Forever Winter: Early Access singleplayer extraction shooter with a very interesting setting I just don't want to download 70 gigs just to see if I like the game or not. I might spend more time waiting for the download than actually playing.
>>532774628
>You don't get 10x more content by going from 7 GB to 70 GB.
>You don't get 10x better fidelity by going from 7 GB to 70 GB.
Maybe I'm too spoiled by stylized games that don'y need 16K textures to look good. But look good because of a cohesive style and good lighting.
But devs being shitters is definitely part of the problem. I remember downloading Borderlands 3 for trash-game night with my buddies and that game is also 70-80 GB and I've later read that one of the reason is, that there is tons of dead game in there. Like the game files still contain like one or two unused iterations of the UI that is just never used but you still have to download.
>Normalfags already 100% accept their retardphones that they have zero control over and zoomies are completely unable to comprehend computers
Don't get me started on that dude. Access to technology has never been so easy, yet tech illiteracy is everywhere. It's funny how between Boomers and Zoomers it feels like I technically barely a Zoomer but whatever am part of the only generation that actually understands Computers.
For like 90% of people their PC is just a Google Chrome machine anyways.

>>532776894
I think the big difference this time, is that I managed to stick with it long enough until I started getting the feeling of getting somewhere. I'm fine with being lost in games (in fact I really enjoy it) but somehow in Rain World it was a little too much.
And also just being bolder helped. On my past few attempts I was playing hyper careful. Never straying too far from my shelter, not going out to explore until my food meter was full, always taking a break to get my krama back up after every death. Barely making any progress coupled with not knowing what progress even meant kind of just made me drop it.
Oh and getting stuck in Drainage System didn't help either, even though it made me a lot more confident at swimming, so finding Shoreline on this run was a breeze.

>>532777654
>Access to technology has never been so easy, yet tech illiteracy is everywhere.
It was always like this with any piece of technology ever. The moment it becomes mainstream and gains mass market appeal, everybody will use it, and most people just don't give a fuck because their lives are a series of predefined actions with zero variation. They have no wonder, no drive to understand, they just want the result they want for the cheapest price they can get.

>>532777654
The problem isn't so much about using higher quality assets, but using them EVERYWHERE without any fucking clue about optimization.

For example a 2011 game might have 4K textures in places, but also 512 or even 256 where appropriate. The same product made with modern "best" practices would have 4K everywhere. And a retarded rendering pipeline that looks worse in some cases but needs a 300 watt space heater to run.

>>532774628
Who pissed in your cereal? Sure most zoomers and normies are retards, but not everyone is, contempt is a very powerful weapon but don't let it consume you

>>532709060
I really, really, REALLY wanna fuck sentient plant aliens

>>532729934
It's a unity game

>>532776623
>run out of spears
not 100% but pretty sure that spears randomly spawn on cycle start like rubble

>>532731734
S'il vous plait?

>>532781141
Yes, and I want to be a lovely anthro bird, and also shag one, but the most I get is 2nd best with scalies in a sea of canines. So I take what I can get instead of trying to fruitlessly mod a bad game hoping I can make it good (spoiler, you can't)

i suck at this game

I am trying to treat everyone as disposable and now I have very few units above lvl 0 while bosses are appearing

Quickly started a Monk run because I wanted to check something in the earlier stages and I'm shocked how much of the magic is already gone from knowing where to go. To be fair I do have the map from my other character, but still.
Also is the monk just easy mode with needing less food, or what's his deal?

>>532792965
>Also is the monk just easy mode with needing less food
This. Less creatures, they're less aggressive, more shelters and less food needed. Monk is also weaker and slower than Survivor
There's one more major difference but i won't spoil it, you'll notice it if you'll start this campaign after getting through the most of the game on Survivor

>>532792965
yeah it's mostly easy mode as you need less food and there's less agressive creature outside.
Also if you didn't figure out by the opening cutscene he's survivor's younger brother, and he's trying to find him

>>532792965
Monk is easy mode but also annoying mode because she doesn't jump as high or as far so it makes him terrible at platforming, some routes are genuinely harder if not impossible to follow without a bunch of advanced tricks.

>>532793994
Don't know why I called monk a she

>>532794171
i could post a picture supporting your claim, but i won't

They fucking knew
Also I died by falling into a bottomless pit right before the shelter
Also also I'm afraid I might have to hibernate without being fully sated for the first time. I'm at one pip of food and the only thing I can find on the way is a bug that gives 2

As annoying as this sequence is because I'm too impatient and haven't quite gotten the use for the flashbang down, it looks like they still keep running and biting and if I'm unlucky a flash won't save me from that I somehow find playing as prey and hiding in the little tubes very appealing.
I've had the same feeling on one of the previous attempts of getting into the game, where hiding from the vulture while it desperately tried to crane its neck into your hidy hole was surprisingly fun
>>532793524
>>532793581
>>532793994
Interesting
Considering I was just in an area with lots of semi annoying jumping sequences I think I'm happy I went for survivor. Also so far most of the fauna is quite manageable. So don't feel like an easy mode is needed. Might do it as a more relaxed replay sometime down the lines.
Also on that topic, the game has two DLC right? Are they just new characters, or also new areas/story? Should I get them if I enjoy the game or is it not a good idea to enable them while already in a run?

>>532802225
Monk was added post release alongside Hunter and a bunch of new creatures.
Survivor is the OG, the way it was meant to be played.

I can't

Wonder if this game's story was based on a dream. I hoped the "true ending" would explain more but it doesn't really.

>>532769465
No.

>>532802225
>the game has two DLC right? Are they just new characters, or also new areas/story? Should I get them if I enjoy the game or is it not a good idea to enable them while already in a run?
Downpour adds several new slugcats and a few new regions and creatures, each slug has a unique ending but it takes place mostly in the base game world. Watcher is a single slugcat whose story takes place entirely within new regions. I'd only recommend getting them if you still really want more after reaching the end as both survivor and hunter, there's a lot that i love about the DLCs but they definitely fall short of the base game in some ways. The best way i can describe it is that the highs are about as high and the lows are a fair bit lower.

>>532778308
That one way drop from the Outskirts to the Drainage System is peak troll design

>>532803020
He's such a fucking bro, isn't he?
I think you catch glimpses of it here and there, but for me this was THE moment when I realized how much he fucking cares about you

>>532807003
The fucked up part was that I made it through the drainage system into whatever the dark area after that is called, but the more time I spent in there, the more I felt like I wasn't supposed to be there (yet). So I tried to double back and it turned out the way out was even harder than the way there.
>>532806979
Gotcha

Fuck me
I had the perfect run. Even found two bugs to eat on the way, to get to five food. Didn't realize one of the poles was a background texture in all of my excitement.
Putting the shelter between a deadly jumping section is cruel as hell man

>>532807290
Yeah, the way you actually get out of Drainage (without a lamp) is to go right and swim through tunnels that are almost, but not quite, completely impossible to get through without drowning.

>>532808275
just go one screen up from there, easier to cross over

>>532808275
THE PIT
CLAIMS ANOTHER SOUL
every single new player falls there, no exceptions

how do you cope with hitting your skill ceiling? there's a game i really like (452hrs according to steam) with a large scaling difficulty progression system, and i've very nearly crested the summit. i'm at the penultimate difficulty level. but i just can't fucking do it. no matter how much i practice and how much game theory i study i just can not get any better. it feels badman to get so close to the end of a game i've played so much and just go "nope can't do it" but like i actually can't do it.

>>532811391
never hit a skill ceiling so i don't know
there are games in which i've spent thousands of hours and i constantly keep finding new things and improving

Hehe well fucking done game
I've grown so comfy not having to "actively" deal with enemies for quite a while. Those birds down below felt more like a stage hazard than actual enemies. It didn't even occur to me that I would encounter an enemy in this "platforming section"
Got all the way up to the room with the weird tentacle slugs. I think I figured out what to do by pure accident, but then I got tied up by a bunch of them and couldn't move until the rain came.
Think this will be something I'll give a shot tomorrow.
>>532808653
I remember how after endless practice I finally made through the part that I was sure was impossible, just to find another part that looked even more impossible
>>532808943
>>532809703
Yep, figured it out afterwards. But man, when the rain is just a minute or so away and and you know you don't want to go through the bird gauntlet again the nerves just start getting to you.

>>532812363

>like somewhat obscure game
>find YouTuber who is absolutely obsessed with said game, makes pretty good content and analysis on it and some other obscure games. Bafflingly high quality analysis too, considering they (at the time) barely got views
>has really pleasant reading voice
>comes out as trans
>pitches up voice
>now I'm mildly annoyed by how uncanny it sounds and can't watch any of the new videos
What a bummer. I mean I'm not a transphobe so more power to her. But considering to me this person is literally just a disembodied voice I'm still upset by this.

>>532816584
Nah, I get you, dude. Once something like this starts annoying you, you just can't ignore you. I'm not mysoginistic, but when I find a video about some oddities that is narrated by a woman, I can't watch it.

One of these days I'll commit more than an hour to Might and Magic 8. I just keep getting sidetracked by other games and forgetting what I'm supposed to be doing, restarting, and doing it again.

>>532815673
Fucker came out of nowhere, luckily there is a path around that I've found that doesn't trigger him.
I also fell for the mimic outside like an idiot, even managed to jump off before it could grab me, but there wasn't enough room to avoid it so it still caught me.

>>532817740
best of luck