Thread 532842979

Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailer
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>532182512

Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.

This thread will be good

>>532843081
If only, but the fatherless cannot admit this.

Why everyone hates Final Fantasy here?

>>532842979 (OP)
Where is the fucking remake, Square???

>>532843296
*modern Final Fantasy

>>532843296
I love Final Fantasy. How about you? Especially the muse, Eclaire, Lightning Farron. With her, you can confront any powerful enemy. She's the strongest heroine after all

My wife Eiko is super cute!

>>532843758
>post immediately got filtered
Thank God this general finally has a filter list

>>532843695
Are XI, XII, XIV and XVI considered "modern" Final Fantasy games? Asking for a friend

Oh wow another filtered post!

>>532843954
>replying to it
It seems entirely useless.

Thank God you always let everyone know what posts you're filtering, instead of posting Final Fantasy. Not sure what we'd ever do without you

>>532844195
You struck a nerve, the One With No Father is seething.

>>532844230
The funniest part is the default filename. And then the tranny gets mad if you type out a filename. They just get mad about FF, period. They don't post it.

Post FF for yourself and watch what happens

Oh no! lightning cuck melty!
Looks like he hasn't recovered from this

My beautiful wife Eclaire? Muse.

Sex with feet? Irrefutable. Afraid so. Many such cases.

>>532844735
Some of these are just redundant

>>532844812
No THIS is based

>>532844812
KEK

Game recognizes game

>>532843758
>>532844274
>>532844857
Fragrant Rose.

>>532844935
They're not I assure you.

>>532844935
Half of them are literally just my filters I shared here, copy pasted over. Pretty intriguing which Final Fantasy games these people get so sensitive over existing and being posted though, I admit.

>>532845372
Filtered post! Filtered post! The pink haired woman is just so scary.....

One true love and goodnight hugs! Canon and cute!

>>532843252
He makes good classic high fantasy Final Fantasy. He carries on Sakaguchi and Matsuno's legacy.
Team Asano are the only other ones that would be a viable alternative.
Without Yoshi-P, we'd be stuck with Nomurian nuFF (Kingdom Hearts)

>>532845784
>Classic high fantasy
Yawn.
>Sakaguchi
>Matsuno
Both were fired from Square Enix for a reason.

>>532846176
Yikes

>>532846176
This but the complete opposite.

>>532300000
>>532300000

>>532845784
Okay. So you have a dismissive and rigid concept of Final Fantasy. Very lame and gay. Have you ever been told that before?
You're admitting Yoshida doesn't have his own ideas by conflating his work with the previous, more creative men that he steals from. Btw.
So no respect from you for the legendary games like FFVII, FFVIII, FFX that paved the way for Final Fantasy to still exist today?
FFXIII trilogy has some of the very best gameplay and music in the entire series you know. What about Stranger of Paradise? How old are you, guy?

>>532846176
While I don't agree with what this says, the schism illustrated here shows the fundamental differences between
>flexible, young, open minded person ready to face new ideas
>old, stiff, close minded person stuck in their ways
I have an open mind with FF and what FF is. It's not tied to the color on the screen.
It's tied to the DESIGN of a JRPG experience, and the emotions that experience can elicit.
It allows you to enjoy the high fantasy setting and a science fantasy setting alike and you won't piss and cry when it inevitably changes around.
Whenever I bought FFXVI, I was very fucking excited to play this so called "good classic high fantasy Final Fantasy" that these people were shilling.
Because I love FF, I liked the trailers, and I wanted a new party based, action JRPG. But I didn't get that at all. Nobody did. FFXVI wasn't that game.

FFXIV isn't really that game either. It's not a JRPG, it's an FF reference carnival ride, WoW clone, and a literal "dress up" Barbie doll simulator. Never ending storyline without a central theme, and lore that is as bland as it is incomprehensible and dense. If I want to go play dress up, there are certainly better games out there. And If I want to play a Final Fantasy JRPG, there are definitely better out there.

If I want to play a dress up Final Fantasy JRPG, there are two very distinct options out there that come to mind.

>>532846176
>XVI is not Final Fantasy
Over time, I came to appreciate the story of XVI more and appreciate the combat system less. Played this game with difficulty mods yet even they can't salvage some fundamentally retarded design choices devs made. Most of the time, there is unending battle with camera, not with enemies. XVI's camera is not just bad at rotating, it constantly takes control away from the player (cinematic dodge! cinematic kill! cinematic slop! whoa cinematic Vanille's ass!), and this just turns crowd control into a literal torture. Oh and by the way enemies can attack being outside of the frame.

Bosses do not pose a threat even with increased health and attack, cause their moves are easy to predict and dodge/parry windows are very generous. The only source of problems in the game with mods is squads of normal mobs + large enemies with a will bar: a normal mob can come from behind and kill you with a couple of stabs (being off camera) while you are focused on a large enemy, and this is the only thing you should care about. Pack of regular mobs - easy. Enemy with a will bar - easy. Most of the bosses - easy. Pack of mobs + enemy with will bar - very hard.

The simplest algorithm for destroying these aforementioned squads is to:
I) Group mobs with leviathan ability "Cross Swell" (locked behind DLC) and destroy them all en masse ASAP,
II) switch attention to a massive enemy with a will bar, which alone does not pose any threat.
Basically the hardest battles in the game can be reduced to:
A) Leviathan shooting and dodging spam, which is very effective against....everyone ( Vanilleover ),
B) aforementioned algorithm.

Fundamentally, the combat system in the game is broken, it should be changed in many ways. Bad, no, retarded camera! Predictive enemy behaviour. Limit on the number of active abilities. Balanced for toddlers. Even if you play with difficulty mods, the winning algorithm is very straightforward and universal.

I think we can all agree that XIII is shit

There is indeed a very clear distinction between competing FF lineages and the studios of men that are behind them.
That's where tribalism ultimately comes from. Not even the games themselves. But the developers.
People that are old and bitter, and will never move on from sucking on Hironobu's gooch take their dying stand how "FF can only look the way I imagine Sakaguchi wants it to".
This is now the same idea that Yoshida represents, which is the reason why they >>532845784 worship him. Yoshida is really just a proxy for wish fulfillment.

One of the FF teams follows from the legacy of FFVII all the way through to the FNC and FFVII Remake. That team usually includes Yoshinori Kitase, Tetusya Nomura and Kazushige Nojima in a pivotal role.
Their games almost always create a brand new world with never before seen concepts and design elements, while keeping key ideas familiar.

The other team comes from a splintered and fragmented group that is often broken and re-assembled at will by the company whenever necessary.
Whether it's IX being just references, XI being "not-Everquest", XII being "not-an-MMO" but in Ivalice, XIV being "not-WoW in not-Ivalice", or XVI being a movie game in "not-Ivalice".
These games almost always reuse the "fantasy" elements in a much safer, by the numbers way.

Also I want to point out something very obvious that some people don't seem to comment on very often.
The 3D "high fantasy" games all have an overwhelmingly brown, muted color scheme, and barring XVI, are all blatant "furry" games.
I'll let that speak for itself.

>>532851242
Hey mate! I'm the only person who will reply to you so I'll share some thoughts.

>Fundamentally, the combat system in the game is broken
I figured that out pretty fast. Though it took time to actually appreciate how broken.
It's totally gimped out and casualized, like modern God of War with cuh-razy controls.
The entire length of the game fails to present you with one single combat challenge
It has the weirdest automation. Because it's FF it has to be "casualized" so that 45 year old journalists can play it with one hand? What the fuck was that?
This automation design in the combat system being flaunted to the public like it's an accomplishment to automate gameplay expression in DMC is more embarrassing than most are willing to admit.
Switching the game to Control type B with the attacks on the right bumper and dodge on Circle improved the experience for me.
Like you described, the camera is just awful. So freely attacking without the lock on is crucial.
But that just straight up doesn't happen if you're using your thumb to press the attack button.
So either you claw that shit to turn the camera while attacking, or you use the lock on, or you switch the control scheme.
Think about how fucking bone headed this is compared to contemporaries. Compared to FFVIIR, even.

I think it's possible to salvage that XVI/DMC gameplay system for another game, because there's potential. But it's not from adding on more enemy mechanics so you can pretend there's depth.
The game needs ROLEPLAY. It needs weapon types, elements, resistances, statuses. It needs actual spells to cast, it needs actual Items to use.
It needs controllable and command-able party members with skills. It needs meaningful equipment and rewards. It needs an actual skill tree with permanent roleplay decisions.
Do you take this skill, or that skill? Do you invest in some new branch so you can get to that special ability, or do you keep investing into Health/Defense/Speed/Attack?

cinematic Vanille's ass...

Now the thread is good

>>532842979 (OP)
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.

>>532850997
>purple eyes
wtf...

>>532853782
>>532857075
>>532857246

Aerisu!

>>532535438
>>531624704
This is the only good thing to come of /ffg/ in recent times

>>532863446
It's constantly talked about because it is not a complete game. It is episodic.
Whether you agree that splitting the game into three was a good thing is up to you. There are both pros and cons.
Personally with how they deliver it, I'm happy with being 3-parters and the good things vastly outweigh the bad.

>>532864085
I agree, but I'm referring to the fact that jimbo said "yes it's me, what do you want?" to the junior detective who immediately realised they didn't even know. Like a dog chasing a ball but with no idea what to do once they have it. I think the death note comic was a funny way to visualise it.

>>532856273
>casualized, like modern God of War
GoW 2018 nearly filtered me on "Give Me God of War" difficulty. I swear, that game was brutal. I remember clearly in 2020 sitting on the couch hiding my face in my hands, whispering to myself something about how I fucking can't play this game and I'm done. The first hours especially were brutal.
>game fails to challenge you
fr
>salvage XVI
IF their approach to the heir of XVI as an action game remains similar, and their bet is on improving the action mechanics of XVI, not adding any RPG elements, then I say - add (A) a system of elemental reactions and (B) a system of differences between the elements, expressed in action form.
(A) The system of elemental reactions is what allows you to play not reactively, studying enemy weaknesses, but proactively, combining elements with different effects and thereby achieving better results in the game. This system, if configured properly, will not limit the player's freedom, but will encourage experimentation with reactions. What Genshin did in its own combat system is a revolution, but Genshin is cattle feed developed by Chinese psychologists specializing in gambling and FOMO, not a vgame, so even its combat system can't salvage it. But if you take this gem of an elemental reaction system and use it in a normal game, I expect great results and new Vanillebeginning in the gaming industry.
(B) As for the system of differences between elements expressed in action mechanics, everything is simple: no one prevents you from making air spells such that they have a grouping effect, Shiva's moves can freeze enemies, Titan's magic casts can work like Dante's shotgun instead of a pistol, and so on. XVI partially follows this scheme, since some Siva's spells freeze enemies, but it takes very timid steps in this direction. The point is the uniqueness of each element can be expressed in action form, rather than in numerical form or in the form of traditional RPG status effects.

>>532853679
After many years of deep Serah-tier 200IQ reflections, I cannot agree with this statement. The story of XIII alone is beautiful and fragrant, and true. I get that people do not understand the story of XIII very well, and this is evident from the essays that have appeared on YouTube even in the last few years. They, in particular, believe that the story of XIII is a story about resisting fate and regaining autonomy. While being true, still a very superficial, partial reading. I believe that XIII is abandonment kino. This truth is yet to be discovered by future Claire scholars. It is a story about what happens to people when they are abandoned in every possible sense of the word, and it is also a story about how to overcome this fundamental trouble.

>>532843790
The best

i'm still halfway rebirth but
isn't the translations fucked in a lot places?

>>532889778
I'm not weeb enough to know the difference.

>>532889778
Most Final Fantasies are unfortunately. FF are too retarded to actually be vocal about any of it.

>>532890171
*FF fans

>>532890017
you dont need to be that much of a weeb to notice some things
specially when the translation says "you alright?" and you heard "cloud!!"
in my defense i haven't watched anime in 12 years

>>532890440
You aren't missing anything. Anime peaked with SG back in 2011.

>>532891457
there are a few things i want to watch
but unlike 2010 when i was watching 4 hours of new anime daily. its just a few ones like
>durarara sequel
>code geass (anything after season2)
>higurashi (whatever sequel/remake
at some point i should watch attack on titan i guess, but i did read the manga so whatever

>>532891457
>Anime peaked with SG
Stargate?
Final Fantasy needs to make a game like this desu

>>532889778
Rebirth is indeed a victim of being trannylated.

>>532843296
But I love Final Fantasy.

It is time to accept Vanille.
Vanille acceptance movement starts now.

>>532896297
>buy copy
how did whoever made this post think this was a win?

>>532843296
It's easier to think of /ffg/ as oneguy's "Final Fantasy House" themed shitpost thread rather than something dedicated to people enjoying or even talking about Final Fantasy, which typically only occurs as a tertiary or tangential component to the primary purpose, which is for him to do and say anything he can to try to rustle the jimmies of someone who said something that he didn't like on a different website 5 years ago.

>>532889778
The english translation is the only one that must be played with english voices otherwise yes, it is fucked

ff2 gets too much hate

>>532902921
This place really hasn't been the same since the great acceptance.

>>532912091
The real reason that oneguy hates Yoshida? Because his bogeyman's supposed Steam account gave a positive rating to XIV.

Why are these threads so slow now?

>>532922643
EU shitposters got banned from the internet. Sadly the lightningcuck is still here evading the law and spamming on 4chan

it has been 33 years and V is still top tier FF kino

>>532922643
It could be the EU/England ban. It could be something related to their real life. Maybe they're just shitting up some other thread right now. The last time we experienced days of peace was when Tower of Fantasy came out, so maybe there is a gacha that released somewhere. Don't question it, just enjoy it. If anything, it only further strengthens the belief that it's always been literally one guy.

>>532926534
We know.
FFV is the quintessential Final Fantasy, after all.

>>532926828
Take your meds

/quintessential/i;boards:vg;op:no

>>532931021
nice!

>>532931021
Bodied that freak.

What is the best version of this game to play? Is there a version on PC that fixes the localization issues and lets me turn off random encounters when I want?

>>532947658
remake and rebirth

>>532949332
Aren't those sequels but not really sequels

>>532947658
pretty sure the steam version has an option to turn random encounters off but if you do that you didnt play the game

>>532947658
1) Ignore this retard >>532949332
2a) emulate the PS1 version to have an authentic experience of the original with all it's bugs and translations errors
2b) or emulate the switch version to get all the QoL features
2c) if you get the PC version then grab the 7th Heaven mod manager from their official page and download the mods that grab you attention

>>532949721
It's a story based game and I have no interest and being involved in fights more than needed, but I also do enjoy turn based combat. I just prefer JRPGs where you can avoid encounters on the map.
>>532950091
2c it is then

>>532947658
Original PS1 version emulated on Beetle PSX (Retroarch) with CRT shader.

>>532953000
Ew

>532950091
>mods
What an imbecile.

>>532951670
the story is honestly far weaker than people let on, 4/5/6 all have much better dialogue and narrative

>>532953000
That looks horrible

>modder of rebirth keeps adding tifa outfits in dresscode
based
>...but he does it with fat tifa proportions
fuck off motherfucker

>>532955305
You may not like it, but it's what the game looked like

(Also you're probably a phone poster or viewing the image downscaled)

Get in boys, we're playing XV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOu76HGYnCs

>>532956405
Lmao you must have had a shitty ass CRT with colours like that nigger. Did your dumb ass drag a magnet accross it or some shit?? Sheeeesh

>>532953000
Looks like shit.

>>532956405
No, it did not.

VII is not worth revisiting.

XIII is literally shit.

>>532956405
>that's what the game looked like
Back in my days, poorfags were actually ashamed of being poor, and stayed in their place, instead of being uppity and pretending they were the majority.

>>532959720
*XIII

Finally a GOOD FFXIII picture.

>>532901495
Vanillebeginning...

>>532953000
>>532956405
This is nightmare-ish. Way too much. TV's did not look like that.

>>532896297
its not like i ever read tags on steam

>>532903640
playing it on jap with english subs
i'm spanish but my brother played it with spanish subs and also saw translations fuc-ups

>>532967141
>i'm spanish but my brother played it with spanish subs and also saw translations fuc-ups
yeah i replayed it in spanish as well with japs voices but in general it is a better translation
also its funny how they translated cait sith lines from being scottish into having cat puns

/ffg/ is full of spaniards?

>one spaniard
>"zOMG GUYS FFG IS FULL OF SPANIARDS"
American education at work, everyone.

I want an actual remake of VII

>>532979357
Wrong timeline

>>532986850
Sorry this might be AI upon closer look, apologies for uploading this, really thought it was a legit pic as I got it from a twitter page with lots of cosplay photos

>>532987038
>tifautist can't even recognize an AI picture
Cringe.

>>532987928
Yeah, my bad, I got that pic last night before hitting bed, was half asleep when I saved that

Use this pic instead for "research purposes" instead

Last one for good measure

>>532990641
Fuck off already

>>532991569
>>532990860
>>532990641
>>532987038
>>532986689

Why is she flaunting her armpits?

>>533009083
cringe

>>533009083
Pero pero

I could see them just doing FF12 combat again

>>533014778
Pokemon is doing something closer to that now too

>>533015259
What, sueing the competition to hide how shit their game is?
SE plans to sue E33 to make people forget how awful FFXIII is?

>>533015259
Is this the Switch 2 game? Why did they only make the grass taller? lol

>>533015259
Looks better than XVI combat.

>>533014778
I would like them to revisit the FF8 combat system.

>>533016259
Because similar to SE they refuse to move to a better engine.
They’re using the 2013 XY engine, which comes with some harsh limitations, GF devs hit the point where they said they can’t actually get the engine to go above 1080p no matter how little is on screen so they are forced to use DLSS.
Pretty sure most of the people who worked on the engine originally are gone now though, basically their version of Luminous or the XVI engine

i finally got out of the shadowban in reddit

Finally finished 9
And while I enjoyed it the amount of hidden shit drove me crazy, like hidden chests or items being invisible but you just have to interact with random spots, like getting mace of Zeus or fucking finding hades
Also the overworld exploration felt awful
Trance was cool but felt useless most of the time
Vivi was my favorite character with zidane behind him and quina and steiner were the only characters I didn't care for
Everyone else was good or great

>>532962151
>Not padded

>>533014778
>>533015259

I love her!

>>533034381
We know, Nanaki

>>533034431
That's knot me

>>532962151
Lightning has a big butt.

>>533034723
>knot
Kek

>>533034756
No she doesn't, but that's fine.
She has a small Japanese butt. Like Aerith

>>533032274
Thoughts on the controversial villain Necron?

>>533035429
She's very happy after being bred

>>533035667
>No she doesn't
I disagree.

>>533036505
That's just her diaper

>>533036505
Yeah alright, Private Joker
Real Lightning fans know better

>>533036752
Remove the armor.

>>533035774
Rng made me dislike the fight alot but I also didn't power grind or min max so it was rough
Plot wise I thought it was strange, kuja was good as the final baddie, and while I understand what they were going for I feel like it made kujas impact weaker

>>533036505
Hope needs to use her butt as a pillow

>>533037358
I will also die on the hill that the main title theme is one of the best pieces of music in the entire series

>>533038473
For me, it's the main title theme of FFIV.

>>533036645
Post padded lightning

>>532872146
>IF their approach to the heir of XVI as an action game remains similar, and their bet is on improving the action mechanics of XVI, not adding any RPG elements
Just do both. DMCV has elements and better action both. They have the blueprints.

>>533041318
I don't force others to see my fetish and you shouldn't either

>>533035774
>Necron
What were they thinking?

Well they did everything possible with real time combat, now what?

>>533046916
Hopefully Square Enix files for bankruptcy

>>533047048
THIS!!

should i play ff6? i played it on ps1 a billion years ago because it came with a ffx demo
i only got to the part where terra turns into an esper and you fly around
i couldn't figure out what the fuck to do and then i lost my save, how far did i get?

>>533014778
god fucking no there isn't a single worse combat system
it BARELY works at 4x speed

>>533049240
Filtered.

>>532877292
XIII is a masterpiece

>>533052714
It's a very underrated game that was horribly misunderstood when it came out.

>>533049240
It's kino tbqh
For the long ass exploration and even longer optional bosses and shit in that game, they nailed it.

>>533055637
>misunderstood
I think everyone understood perfectly.
Very pretty
Cool world
Unfinished vision in terms of gameplay and map design.

I think Aerith would be cute in a diaper and age regressing

>>533056515
>Unfinished
How so?

>>533046916
Back to XIII combat we go!

I haven't finished it yet but I thought XIII was about finding purpose?

>>533056660
The "hallway straight to endgame" design was not the initial vision of the game. The biggest complaint about the entire experience, and it could have been mitigated by simply taking a little more time to incorporate the extra content they, get this, had already done a bunch of work on. It was stated that the equivalent of an entire games worth of content was cut from XIII.
all of which could have further accentuated the great world building and fabula nova universe. Instead, they buckled on time and cut all the extra flavor and put the player on rails and shipped the game out.
It got mixed criticisms, and fabula nova got cancelled, <insert versus 13 rant>, and every game since has been shipped unfinished because they "got away" with it according to sales.
I am bitter because I like 13 but could have Loved it.

>>533058172
Source?

>>533056589
Kill yourself pedo.

>>533059642
That's not pedo

>>533059490
Kitase did a number of interviews following the games release, sometimes contradicting his own words in different interviews. All that's clear is that the game could have been (and should have been) bigger and contained more side content and exploration.

>>533058172
My favorite was when Kitase and Toriyama said that using a world map was too confusing for players, so they cut it from XIII.
Then they introduced time travel and universe hopping using a time/world map in XIII-2.

>>533055740
i cant play 10 or 12 without speedhacks
emulators ruined me

>>533061374
>emulators ruined me
I think the zodiac age steam version has speed up in the game doesn't it? Like the steam version of 7?
I didn't pick up the x/x2 remaster but that seems like it should ship with it as well.
They know we are old now and don't have time to 9999hour these games Again.

>>533061659
i don't know if it does but i emulated a shit ton back then when i was a neet
hadn't played all my favorite games in 10+ years shit was so kino went through all the zeldas, ffs, kh2:fm etc with a new perspective

>>533061896
Makes sense, but yeah. Generally those kinds of emulation QOL features are starting to be included in remasters/re-released/collections- with some notable exceptions of course.
Also, the zodiac age is now considered the go-to new player version of 12. The list of differences between og 12 and TZA is pretty sizeable.
I prefer the OG license board though

>>533062473
honestly the game feels like a chore when you can just afk on a bridge and kill 100 skeletons in a row
somehow i still run out of gil equipment is so fucking expensive in this game

>>533062712
Leave those niggas in the mines alone

>>533074405
>racism
Cringe.

>>533075251
>Assuming racism
Cringe.
The niggas in question are the skeletons.
The ones in the mines.
The mines that have a bridge of infinite skeletons.
Infinite skeleton niggas.

>>533075994
>uses the n-word
>"b-b-b-b-but i'm not racist, please mods don't delete my genitals!!"

>>533076069
I'm very racist but not against blacks, retard

Love my GF

>>533080338
We know, Cloud.

>>533080618
I'm anon. Aerith belongs to me, and Tifa. If she asks nicely.

>>533080338
Your GF loves BNC (Big Nanaki Cock)

>>533084556
She's knot that knotty

>>533085695
Needs anal.

I'm bored and unsure what game to play. I think I'm experiencing Final Fantasy fatigue.

>>533085747
Only on Sunday

>>533086091
Every day is sunday.

>>533085864
Understandable. Have you been playing a lot of them back-to-back?

>>533085864
SoP

>>533086221
Why do you want Aerith to get addicted to anal only...

>>533086598
Because I find anal extremely hot.
I'm a light sadist and I get turned on by little gasps of pain.

>>533086687
Finally something almost based from these trashposters

>>533086687
Please use the proper amount of lube! I won't allow you to hurt her!

Horrible thread

>>533095948
Need more Aerith

>>533095948
Needs less dead sluts

>>532842979 (OP)
yeah yeah lets go hunt some demons or whatever

>>533097707
I don't see any being posted

>>533098089
>Necrophiliacposting
Shameful and disgusting

King

>page 10
Whose necro now?

Purest Muse...

Fragrant Heroine...

The Fantasy that is Final...

Lot of filtered posts. Is the fatherless seething about XIV's success again?

>>533140118
No, it's me, posting about the Everblooming Rose.
They say that crystals epitomize eternity, well then Magnificent Muse epitomize the ultimate finality of fantasy...


Enthroning rose, for those in days gone by
A simple goblet with a single rim,
For us, however, the full infinite bloom,
The object no perception can exhaust.

In your massed wealth you seem to us to be
A gown, thrown over a gown, thrown over a body
That’s nothing but light. And yet your single petal
Is shunning and refusal of all dress.

For centuries your fragrance has called out
Its sweetest names to us. Now suddenly
It weighs upon the air, like fame. And yet

We don’t know what it’s called. We take a guess.
And memory goes over to its side,
Abandoning the hours we could have named.
__________________________________
"Rose, du thronende, denen im Altertume
warst du ein Kelch mit einfachem Rand.
Uns aber bist du die volle zahllose Blume,
der unerschöpfliche Gegenstand.

In deinem Reichtum scheinst du wie Kleidung um Kleidung
um einen Leib aus nichts als Glanz;
aber dein einzelnes Blatt ist zugleich die Vermeidung
und die Verleugnung jedes Gewands.

Seit Jahrhunderten ruft uns dein Duft
seine süßesten Namen herüber;
plötzlich liegt er wie Ruhm in der Luft.

Dennoch, wir wissen ihn nicht zu nennen, wir raten ...
Und Erinnerung geht zu ihm über,
die wir von rufbaren Stunden erbaten."

So yeah, it's the fatherless again.

>>533140118
No

I thought the idea of filtering posts was that you did it to ignore posters. But it seems like the one doing the filtering has absolutely nothing to say each day other than dozens upon dozens of posts talking about all the filtered posts. Instead of using filters to ignore a shitposter, they've turned this general into a place where nothing else is ever talked about.

>>533141419
You pissed off the fatherless, it stopped posting pictures to cry about being filtered.

>>533142126
Very good strategy: to get everyone talking about Vanille. We in Vanille acceptance movement desperately need this. Before you accept something, you need to realize it and discuss it with yourself and others. Good good1

Vanille acceptance movement, Task 1: say something nice about Vanille.
Go on, don't be shy.

Posts like >>533142207 seem to be pretty counter-intuitive for reasons I doubt I have to explain.

/filters/i;boards:vg;op:no

>>533144019
B TO THE A TO THE S TO THE E TO THE D

>>533142126
No one itt uses the filters, they are shitposts
Ignore them
>>533085864
>I'm bored and unsure what game to play. I think I'm experiencing Final Fantasy fatigue
Unironically xvi or SoP is good for this since they are action games

>>533150138
I use filters. Removing the lightning retard and his buttbuddy that spams fatherless makes the thread much more enjoyable to view.

>>533142207
It's a loser, please understand it.

Why is Aerith so beautiful?

>>533150796
>the one with no father is very mad
Good.

>>533150923
Why are you replying to yourself?

>>533124436
>>533124626
>>533124756
>>533125703
Wondrous Muse.

>>533151383
FAILED

whats next for final fantasy? I loved Origins and XVI

>>533154492
I hope they give another studio a crack at a FF story personally.
I'm not a huge fan of the direction or gameplay in xvi but SoP was really refreshing and ninja did a great job with the story and gameplay. Super cool love letter to the history of FF.
It's more likely that xvii will be another cbu3 special though. :(

>see account posting this as the model they should have used as the Remake model
>profile pic is FF2 related
Why do the jokes write themselves

>>533154492
>whats next for final fantasy?
Yoshida gets fired.

>>533155192
Eve is a slut

>>533155531
What went wrong?

>>533155796
Not an MMO player but I guess their expansion was bad. I'd argue mmos are shit to begin with, but it must have been pretty broken and shitty for their loyal subscribers to turn on them

Dawntrail is underrated and Wuk Lamat did nothing wrong.

>>533157287
what is it that people hate so much
Tell me about the problems plaguing your MMO

>>533157520
It's nothing; just idiots who accuse everything of being woke.

>>533157287
>>533157961
You are delusional.
Dawntrail was written and directed extremely poorly.
I'm surprised that it has apologists, but I guess the most devout cultists will remain steadfast no matter what.

>>533157520
Remember those awful parts in XVI where you just did fetch quests upon fetch quests upon fetch quests of absolutely nothing praying for it to end? They made an entire expac (30h) out of that and you also have to play cameraman for an hideous retard the whole way, and people didn't like it.

Im so happy /ffg/ finally has an official filter spam list

>>533157961
Isn't FF 14 mostly for gamer girls and homosexuals, of course its "woke".
Male MMO players play wow or destiny or something.
Thats what most people think anyway.

>>533158973
XIV only became woke after the WoWtrannies infested it

>>533159232
Source?

>>533158817
Isn't that most of every mmo though

Am I gay if I'm attracted to Kuja

halfway still rebirth but
i'm surprise they didn't add a multiplayer mode for the chocobo races and whatever else there

>>533164135
Depends do you want to rape or make love to kuja

Should I pick up 3 or 12 next
I've been trying to play some of the more "underrated" games, but Im not sure if I will like 12's combat

>>533175207
12 is peak imo don't worry about liking or not liking the combat just try and get into it.
It's a more relaxed pace game with a lot to do

>>533177202
I don't know much about it but I like the art style and the actual city aesthetic and such, balthier seems really cool and fran makes my dick diamonds
I just know it's one of the more controversial games due to the combat

>>533159232
Rent free.

>>533178270
>the combat
It starts pretty tame, real time combat but you can micro manage every party members actions. Later down the line that becomes not viable so the gambit system picks up the slack, you kinda program the AI of your party and then intervene in real time/on the fly. I think it's unique and interesting, and maybe the last time they tried to do something really innovative.
But I see why some might not be attracted to it.
The aesthetics are peak, irrefutably.

>>533182486
Maybe il pick up zodiac age when it goes on sale then and at least give it a try

XII is the best one

Can I post here if I only played 7 and only have interest in works that are based around 7

>>533196163
True but low key
>>533197352
Yeah but you are not real for that

>>533197352
A common tale of late.
Most regrettable.

>>533196163
>>533197723
>>533201047
Based

>>533202127
*cringe samefagging

>>533055637
Its just not fun to play because of its progression system

>>533197723
>>533201047
How dare people only like the BEST FF game with the BEST girls

>>533204465
its writing and plot are worse than 4,5 and 6 which all came before it and its movement genuinely feels clunky at times, an issue i dont think any other ff suffers from

>>533124436
>>533124626
>>533124756
>>533125703
>>533141373
>>533141581
>>533142473
>>533142958
>>533151986
NOW we're talking. Finally, some Fantasy.

>'What version should I play' pastebin says to play the Steam PC version of FF7
Yeah with the stupid gaping open mouths that ruin every scene, among other issues
Stupid

>>533197352
I played VII OG and then every extension of VII, including the remakes, and boy is the original game the only thing remotely worth playing there
It's one original masterpiece and more soulless cash grabs than you can imagine

>>533207849
Maybe the pastebin assumes you'd use 7th Heaven, along with the mod that lets Aerith live for your 2nd playthrough

>>533207849
just drag and drop ffnx into your ff7 folder, there everything fixed + you have access to a slew of additions should you want them

I guess that settles that.

>>533196163
>>533204465
>BEST FF game with the BEST girls
There is absolutely nothing wrong
with only liking the greatest FF of all time
FFXII

>>533211560
It does have the best girls

How hard would it be to convince randos in FFXI to group up and run through the story together? I want to play it but I also don't really want to play with bots and I also have no friende.

>>533214420
Sadly, very...

>>533214580
That's a shame. People in XIV would do it. Granted, probably mostly out of boredom, but still.

>>533210058
85% of this man’s audience is retarded.
Honestly I’m surprised it’s that low.

The next final fantasy should have ATBBW combat.

Sad to report that all FF games after 12 are bad

>>533214420
You can probably convince people. Just grab a Linkpearl in the main city when you start out and ask in the Assist channel. Make sure you're on Asura or Bahamut

>>533225781
>implying 12 wasn't bad
You're funny.

>>533227878
see >>533196163

>>533231686
fuck off with your video essay slop

>>533231686
I hate these thumbnails that are so vague.
>"He was right all along"
>arrow and red circle
>"Bowser did nothing wrong"
>"hitler was not the bad guy"

>>533231686
Sad but true!

>>533234668
Indeed, especially when he says that XVI totally mogs all the other FF and is a lot better.

>>533235010
maybe on Planet Retard

>>533235010
You struck a nerve, the tourist is angry.

>>533238758
Lol

>>533245517
Nice.

World of Final Fantasy any fun?

>>533250572
My favourite non-mainline FF game, so YES.
But Steam shagged it, place a shortcut to the .exe on the desktop and run it directly.

>>533245517
This is pretty good.

>>532842979 (OP)
Why is the best fight in fucking training mode
Why aren't there more fights like this in the game

>>533057038
>Back to XIII combat
I wish. SE's newer devs fundamentally misunderstand the stagger system as a pressure release valve and nothing more. Sadly they were already moving in that direction with Lightning Returns, so it seems that in their eyes, it's a feature rather than a bug. At the very least, I'm not sure if it can get much worse than XVI's stagger system.

>>533058172
>It was stated that the equivalent of an entire games worth of content was cut from XIII.
This has always struck me as either heavy exaggeration or the "cut content" was stuff they never properly made. The only examples they gave were Lightning's house (which is in multiple cutscenes even if it's not explorable), Nora's secret base (which is presumably just a small room), and a zoo.
The only environment that was repurposed for XIII-2 was the one Eden building interior, which is also seen in the Ultimania concept art. Aside from that and a few other things, most of the concept art we see in the Ultimania is in the game in one form or another.

>>533279697
You are a retard, Lightning Returns stagger was proto-Ff7r stagger and ff7r perfected it

>>533259348
Is there more to this

>>533204838
>its writing and plot are worse than 4,5 and 6
Lol fuck no
4 and 5's characters are thin as fuck compared to 7's
6's characters are better than 4 or 5 and are about on par with 7, but the worldbuilding is sludge and the plot is a series of retarded contrivances to enable a clown to become god and nuke the planet
7 is basically what FF had been building to up to that point, which is why it's so beloved

Can I talk about XVI or does this general hate that game?

>>533284336
I'm conflicted on 16, it has some 11/10 moments and shit like the bahamut fight turning into fucking gurren lagann was kino, but then you have to play the rest of the game, genuinely terrible item and crafting system that's pointless and the most pointless side quests ever aside from getting ambrosia
It was a fun 10 hour game that had to be padded and slowed down with so much random unnecessary bullshit to extend the play time to so it would be "final fantasy" instead of just a good action game
Locking you to 3 eikons at a time was annoying but still was fun, Clive just needed more actually moves
To me it's a 6/10 game the highs are fucking so high that I forget about the lows for long enough, but the rest of the game is a boring slog
I also like Clive

>>533284336
Sure.

Personally I liked XVI’s main story and some of the side quest are interesting. But the majority of side quest are underwhelming to terrible which made playing a slog at times. Combat was fine, not a fan of it but didn’t hate it. VIIR has a better blend of atb and action which is more FF.
The main bosses are all kino, don’t think there was a single one I hated and all are hype as fuck.
7-8/10 imo.

>>533280590
Correct.
All of XIII is proto 7R.

>>533280035
Those were the confirmed cut concepts, probably because they were the most finished, true.
I'm sure the other cut content does exist, but maybe isn't as easy to point at. Additional dialogue, side missions, world map, cutscenes, even characters.
Some could have been withheld for repurposing in other fabula nova stuff(lol) and now just exists in the aether~~

>>533286142
who let this normalfag in here with his moderate correct opinions

Let this shitty general die

>>533288115
I like big kaiju battle
And accepting the truth was absolute cinema

>>533291158
Based.
I have no notes, the game is mid but cool in parts and you have good taste.

>accept the truth, you are responsible for your brother's death
>except he isn't actually dead because we can't make our shitty self-insert protag feel too bad
Final Fantasy needs to be written by competent people again.

>>533284336
You can try. The game is so bland and there’s so little to the gameplay systems that there isn’t much to talk about.

forget it im leaving the general salty ass mofos

News tomorrow at least

>>533284336
Anabella should have been the main villain.

Final Fantasy XVII will be a horse racing simulator with cute anime girls.

>>533293353
Quite a lot of XVI's problems is that the game is often unable to follow through its premises, both on a narrative and gameplay level. Clive facing his guilt is made irrelevant by Joshua surviving, the more realistic setting with focus on more grounded stakes is thrown aside for "punch God to fix everything" a third through the game, Clive taking the mantle of terrorist is never really taken seriously since the Empire pretty much destroys itself. I wonder how much is due to the team getting cold feet and how much is due to CBU3 being unable to structure actually dynamic stories. Post Dawntrail I'm starting to think it's 80% the latter / 20% the former.

>>533284336
This general is contrarian so discussing 10/10 FFs like XVI here will be difficult.

>>533293616
>>533298713
The conversation already happened.
Why are you replying

>>533298713
Funny coming from someone that also never actually discusses XVI.

This general always goes to shit at the same hour

>>533295132
>Clive facing his guilt is made irrelevant by Joshua surviving
Except Clive faces his gilt and comes to terms with what he did to Joshua. It's after he's had this moment that he discovers Joshua is still alive.
>the more realistic setting with focus on more grounded stakes is thrown aside for "punch God to fix everything" a third through the game
Reminder the Japanese use "God" for several symbolic purposes none of which are literally "lets kill God uwu". If all you took from the story was "kill god save the world" you have missed the entire point.
>Clive taking the mantle of terrorist is never really taken seriously since the Empire pretty much destroys itself.
There's an entire section of the game where Clive and the hideout have to contend with the damage they are causes other nations and the larger world. Setting up networks to supply suffering areas from the effects of blowing up the crystals.
>I wonder how much is due to the team getting cold feet
I think it has more to do with your just total lack of comprehending what was happening on the screen and being told to you by the game.

I'm enjoying my replay of FFTA but it's such a chore trying to keep up with the dispatch missions.
The pub is always full of missions that require items you won't have until 10+ hours later, or repeatable ones you've already done. You have to double check the list to make sure you're getting the actual new and relevant ones and that's IF they even show up, since you get a semi-random selection each month and some are exclusive to certain towns.
It would be so much better if they marked completed missions in the main list and separated "gathering" & "crafting" missions into a separate tab

>>533304216
I like when they fail the dispatch missions they are filled with shame and rage
Love that game

>>533303787
>Except Clive faces his gilt and comes to terms with what he did to Joshua
It is irrelevant because he did not in fact kill him and both the characters stay on perfectly good terms with no long term consequences for either, hence why it lacks bite since it's not taken to its actually logical conclusion.
>Reminder the Japanese use "God" for several symbolic purposes
Irrelevant because Ultima isn't symbolic and whatever cultural interpretation you take from him doesn't change how he interacts with the story. FFXVI is in fact a tale about punching God to fix everything.
>contend with the damage they are causes other nations and the larger world
The only part where this remotely applies is the refugee line near Twinside, where the camp questline works the exact same as every other camp questline in the game with the exact same conclusion. After Twinside / Bahamut is Ultima starting Primogenesis which makes it irrelevant nonetheless, again throwing away the premise.
>I think it has more to do with your just total lack of comprehending what was happening on the screen
I think I get it just fine and you're being needlessly emotional to the point it's starting to affect your English.

>>533306793
>you're being needlessly emotional to the point it's starting to affect your English
Kek
>>533304216
That shit is wack and annoying I never track the dispatch missions, I just send it on whatever is new and within success level range. Bank the items and hope they are useful.

Mihoyo is going to make a better FFXV

>>533306793
>It is irrelevant because he did not in fact kill him
This doenst change the fact that for the first Act Clive believes he did kill him and faces that guilt. Joshua not begin dead does not undo that growth.
>Irrelevant
No it's very relevant and just dismissing it doesn't change that. Try engaging with the material instead of just assuming you know everything there is to know.
>The only part where this remotely applies is the refugee line near Twinside
It is literally the set up of the third act but ok.
Anon have you played this game?
>I think I get it just fine
You really don't.
> starting to affect your English.
Only ESLs confuse typos for grammatical failures.

>>533311086
>Only ESLs confuse typos for grammatical failures
Nta but "gilt" is not a typo

Your discussion? Irrelevant.
My discussion? Objectively factual at all times.

>>533310953
Based

>>533311086
>This doenst change the fact that for the first Act Clive believes he did kill him and faces that guilt
If the entire impetus for Clive's quest (namely his quest for vengeance) turns out to be fake, then the game in fact does not commit to that impetus. L3 + R3 to accept the Truth simply doesn't hold to scrutiny as a climax because we know Joshua is relaxing a few villages away. Tidus' choice has weight because he and Zanarkand actually disappear. Cecil's doubts and redemption have weight because he actually commited atrocities. Clive facing his guilt has no weight because he, in truth, did nothing.
>No it's very relevant and just dismissing it doesn't change that.
Whatever conveniently elusive cultural significance you wish to imply for Ultima does not (again) change how the character actually act within the dynamics of the story. Unless you can actually explain what interpretation directly contradict my point about Ultima throwing away the grounded politics for generic "beat bad guy to save the world", then you are simply not making an argument.
>It is literally the set up of the third act but ok.
Actually, the setup for the third act is Primogenesis, which throws away any question or moral dilemma regarding Clive's actions and is why he spends the rest of the game beating up zombies.
Kneejerk dismissals are unsightly and you really need to stop being agitated.

>>533310953
>someone is going to make something better than literal shit
The bar was pretty low bro even that Korean studio is making a better FFXV

>>533314709
So so SO TRUEE!!

>>533314653
> If the entire impetus for Clive's quest (namely his quest for vengeance) turns out to be fake
And that still doesn’t invalidate that for Clive through that entire growth segment believe it is real.
> Unless you can actually explain what interpretation directly contradict my point about Ultima throwing away the grounded politics for generic "beat bad guy to save the world", then you are simply not making an argument.
The first two acts already covered the politics of the world. Crystals are sucking away the life of the planet. Remove them save the planet. The third act sets up the rationale behind the crystals usages.
It’s capitalism Anon. You got two acts dedicated to correcting the problems of capitalist exploration and the third act is attacking the ideology itself. I’m sorry your English teachers failed you but your lacking of media literacy does not make something “le bad”
> Actually, the setup for the third act is Primogenesis, which throws away any question or moral dilemma regarding Clive's actions
The moral question of Clive’s actions already got screen time. Again did you fucking play this game?

>>533311376
Missing a U in guilt is a fucking typo retard

>>533320318
>retard
Yes you are

>>533321408
GOTTEM

>>533320096
>And that still doesn’t invalidate that for Clive through that entire growth segment believe it is real.
It, in fact, does. I'm sorry, but thinking the very premise of the plot being negated isn't a big deal is simply ludicrous.
>The first two acts already covered the politics of the world.
That's cute and all, but the initial argument was that XVI's plot-related problems stem from its unwillingness and/or unability to follow through its premises. Infodumps about Sanbreque's tax policy are nice, but it doesn't change that the politics end up ultimately irrelevant in the actual plot of the game, and "the scenario is not willing to understand its own stakes" is a perfectly reasonable criticism. Media literate people would also know better to call any system of exploitation capitalism in an attempt to look smart, but then again they would probably have better priority than games with shallow narratives like XVI.
>The moral question of Clive’s actions already got screen time.
The answer was that he is in fact completely justified and his "terrorism" is just virtuous heroism since the alternative is becoming a zombie, again a case of the game not willing to go through its dilemmas. For a person so convinced people with criticisms of XVI didn't play the game, I don't think you have a very good grasp on how the game is structured and how its acts thematically contradict each other.

>>533312115
'fraid so

>>533326318
> It, in fact, does.
No it literally does not. Nothing from the first act from Clive’s character is suddenly undone because Clive’s understanding of the situation changed. This is literally the plot of fucking nearly every story. Thing you thought was true is actually false. And never has this ever somehow undermined the character struggle of the narrative.
> doesn't change that the politics end up ultimately irrelevant in the actual plot of the game
The political elements are the entire fucking focus of the second act. Anon your entire commentary is just “no that’s not enough” and that’s fine but it doesn’t remove what was presented.
> system of exploitation capitalism in an attempt to look smart
Here’s a cheat sheet for your JRPG consumption so maybe next time you can actually follow what the story is trying to say
Alien = Foreigner
Space = The west
God = Capitalism
The Japanese do not give a shit about religion. They use it as a stand in for bitching about western corruption.
FFXVI is about a political system around magic crystals implanted by space aliens. IE a political and economic system imported by western powers which in the context of modern Japan is literally capitalism. The Japanese have been writing the same story about the economic collapse in the 80s for five fucking decades now.
>The answer was that he is in fact completely justified and his "terrorism" is just virtuous heroism since the alternative is becoming a zombie
Thank you for conceding that Clive’s moral quandary is in fact explored and answered.

>all those walls of text written with chatgpt
He really doesn't have anything better to do huh?

Final Fantasy tomorrow
But which one?

If you didn't hold this bad boy in your hands
and feel the sheer thrill of the DualShock 2 rumble pulsing in your palms...
did you really beat the game?

>>532842979 (OP)
anyone know how much this box is worth and what's the name?

>Joshua not begin dead does not undo that growth.
Kek at the guy falling for the reddit le character development meme. Porn addict IQ.

>>533329882
>Nothing from the first act from Clive’s character is suddenly undone because Clive’s understanding of the situation changed.
It does in fact undoes things because it turns out his struggle was completely irrelevant which in turns lessens its emotional impact, and why it makes XVI less interesting on a replay since you know Act 1 is both irrelevant and disconnected from the rest of the game.
>The political elements are the entire fucking focus of the second act.
Also false. Most of the second act is spent dealing with Hugo, whose questline has no political aspect to it. Neither does the Iron Kingdom, and the imperial civil war ends right after it starts since Dion gets mindraped by Ultima. Most of the political focus gets thrown away by the end of Act 1.
>Anon your entire commentary is just “no that’s not enough”
My commentary is that the game doesn't follow on what it settles and your argument is that I'm wrong because it doesn't follow what it settles but it's open about it.

But for the important part.

>The Japanese do not give a shit about religion.
Once again, irrelevant. Ultima can be an allegory about whatever Maehiro wishes from western corruption to unchecked technology worship, and it wouldn't change how he's actually written as a character and how he interacts with the plot, ie an almighty evil God who is responsible for everything wrong in the game's story, does so by completely bypassing the established actors, and needs to be punched in the face to save the world. You tiptoe around this by trying to focus on its symbolism, but it simply isn't working.

>Thank you for conceding that Clive’s moral quandary is in fact explored and answered.
I'm glad you agree that there was in the end no moral quandary at all, making the premise of a quandary moot, which was the entire initial argument.

FFXVI is a game about punching God (The West etc.) to save the world. You just think it's a good thing (that's fine), but most people understandably didn't.

>>533336434
True Final Fantasy is rightwing-coded btw. Continuity across time. Unity through change. The living tradition. Looking to those who walked before to lead those who walk after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lJsmCqvCI

>>533336859
Based as fuck, and true.

>>533337736
>realize
so way back in 2010 lol

>>533338473
Some still haven't realized.

>>533336859
>Rebelling against the church
>Rebelling against empires
>Following pagan traditions of olde (religious freedoms)
>Ideals of free borders and charity to the needy
Nigga, where

>>533336434
> It does in fact undoes things because it turns out his struggle was completely irrelevant
Except it was a massive part of who he was and his own personal struggle that he only overcomes once he accepts the truth of the matter. Clive literally cannot be who he becomes without disproving what he thought was true.
>Hugo
A massive political obstical in the world. Yes Anon thank you again for making my point.
> My commentary is that the game doesn't follow on what it settles
You have twice now conceded that the game does in fact follow on what it settles. Your problem is you don’t like or understand how it settled.
> needs to be punched in the face to save the world.
You understand that in battle genre mediums like video games a fight scene is traditionally a metaphor for competing philosophies yes? You aren’t so media illiterate that you believe all these stories are saying is “punch your problem away” right?
> FFXVI is a game about punching God (The West etc.) to save the world. You just think it's a good thing (that's fine), but most people understandably didn't.
It is a game about fighting back against western intrusion and corruption. I’m sorry you didn’t understand that

PS quote me where I have ever said anything in this game was “good”.

>>533337736
There's no crystallized lesbians in X
At least I don't think any of the fayth are lesbians explicitly

>>533339412
So XIII is also woke...
Not the win you think it is lil bro

>>533339785
I wasn't really saying it was good or bad, just an observation.
Also I'm an only child, quite old as well.

>>533339365
>It was a massive part of who he was
You are stuck on repeat. If a massive part of his character is in fact completely dismissed with no actual consequences whatsoever, then yes the narrative doesn't take . Cecil's redemption would be hollow if it turned out he killed no one as a Knight of Baron, Yuna's tearful goodbye would mean nothing if they found a week later that Dream Zanarkand and Tidus were just moved a few kilometers anyway.

>A massive political obstical in the world.
I'm starting to think a large obstacle of this conversation is that you don't know what political actually means, which is why you think Hugo vs Clive is political (it isn't).
>You have twice now conceded that the game does in fact follow on what it settles
Saying "actually the premise doesn't actually exist" (something you yourself admitted XVI does) is not, in fact, following on the premise but rather the opposite. I'm not sure what your point even is since we seem to agree that XVI has no continuity between its thematics and you just think it's a positive rather than a negative.

>You understand that in battle genre mediums like video games a fight scene is traditionally a metaphor for competing philosophies yes?
You're trying yet again to shift the topic to symbolism and you're very obvious about the fact that you don't have an answer to the original argument about Ultima hijacking the story's dynamics. XVI *is* in fact a story about punching your problems away (when it shouldn't be) because the supposed ideological struggle you're flaunting is solved by punching it away, and Clive can only prove Ultima wrong (prove what, anyway? Turning people into zombies is bad?) by punching him. You could try your best to explain Clive is an allegory about the struggles of post-WW2 Japan against American Hegemony and it wouldn't change anything about this.

At the very least, we seem to agree XVI's plot is overall pretty bad so I'm happy we have common grounds for conversation.

>>533339365
>It is a game about fighting back against western intrusion and corruption.
lmao

How upset would you be if they made a numbered entry a gacha?

>>533339318
>Rebelling against the church
The only other mainline FF you could argue does this is X and even then you are literally working with the Fayth they worship every step of the way so as to purify the organization from the literal zombies that have taken a hold of it. You are restoring the faith, not destroying it. XIII has religious aesthetics for the state organization in Cocoon but not actual religious authorities.
>Rebelling against empires
Yes because it's a celebration of western liberal ethics over those of Imperial Japan specifically.
>Following pagan traditions of olde (religious freedoms)
Freedom of religion is very much a rightwing thing.
>Ideals of free borders and charity to the needy
FF has never parroted the Marxist abolition of nations (despite Maehiro and Matsuno holding very explicitly Marxist views of history) and neither is the latter a leftwing thing. People who practice Christianity donate more to charity than any other demographic.
Any piece of media that tries to convey the reality of that which remains true and steadfast even across radical change (like a lot of good Japanese media does, as a product of their constantly uncertain cultural context in the past 1.5 centuries) will inevitably also end up being 'rightwing'. This is due to the fact that leftwingers are incapable of conceiving art as anything but a means for propaganda, while good artists are concerned first and foremost with making good art that conveys beauty by itself and for its own sake.

>>533348637
You pick and choose what right wing means to fit your narrative
You're wrong and I accept your concession

13-2 is a gacha.

>>533350650
No one played it so that's fine

>global version EOS
>jp version releases TWO summer cuties
I feel cucked

>>533351525
Not final fantasy

Did he do it yet?

Congratulations to VII, X, and Chrono Trigger, the three most beloved Final Fantasy games.

>>533337736
Just finished FFX for the first time.
10/10 Final Fantasy.

>>533355415
Based dragon quest appreciators

>>533355974
Huge if true

>>533355415
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/new-top-100-ranking-of-japanese-peoples-favorite-games-dominated-by-domestic-classics-like-mario-and-pokemon-except-for-the-number-one-spot/
>eight final fantasy games made the top 100
>XIII, XV, and XVI did not
>even when several other newer games like pokemon SV and elden ring did
No wonder this series is flailing.

>>533355974
>>533356086
It's true. I was impressed.

>>533355415
Chrono Trigger is the best Final Fantasy game.

/five Final Fantasy games/i;boards:vg;op:no

>>533281959
Not yet, sadly.

>>533248013
Based!!!!!

>>533288115
>6/10
>moderate
And I thought 7/10-ish was too far

FFXIII is shit.

Posting heroines from my 14 year old iMac that I dusted off and got updated from out of the closet today. It runs as snappy as it ever has
It reminds me of the fragrant heroines of Final Fantasy XIII who have also aged so phenomenally well....

>>533329882
Nta but if XVI is a story about capitalism, as a whole it is even dumber than I thought.

Lot of filtered posts, is the fatherless criny again?

>>533367737
No....it's okay at least. There's some decent things about it

>>533368420
Someone didn't shit on XVI on sight, so he's crying.

>>533368658
They also came up with a new filter for the sephiroth pic that hasn't been posted in months.

>>533368803
Scratch that someone has been using it in my absence.

>>533367368
>>533367539
The heroine, Vanille, is my favourite girl in the entire gaming.
The video game, Final Fantasy XIII, is my favourite Final Fantasy game in the entire series.

>>533368420
Yup.

>>533369070
I'll draw her hugging a sheep.

>>533369070
I love Vanille, but I love Lightning even more.

criny

>>533370767
Me too. I love Vanille, but I love Éclair even more.
Yet...I love Éclair, but I love Vanille even more.
It's a paradox.

>>533336859
This idea of continuity was beautifully represented in the best ending of FFV. It is no coincidence that the heroes end their journey at the Guardian Tree: Krile visited the tree on the anniversary of Galuf's death and laid flowers at its roots to honor him. This becomes a symbol of the end of their current journey and the beginning of a new one.

Weirdest meltdown I ever saw. But the fatherless just slipped up and confirmed he is also the vanille shitposter.

>>533372305
based stalker-kun

>>533372219
I'm glad you're back, bud
/ffg/ is not the same without you

>>533368420
Yes

>>533372305
The thing is, anon, that I'm melting every day. Every fucking day!!! Damn. But the reason for that? The reason... is that... the Mother forsaken me, no, forsaken us all...
>>533372962
Remember friend, wherever we are, the fragrance must never end.

Thank god ffg finally had an official filter list. It makes these horrible threads less horrible

>>533368420
He's so retarded he thinks changing the filenames like these ones >>533369070
>>533372219
will bypass the filter (he's wrong lmao)
It also just proves that he's scared and mad that people are finally hiding his spam

Jesus this is so funny :D

>>533373889
>>533374269
Heroine meltdown.....engage.

>>533373927
What will you talk about now that you're using the filters?

>>533373889
So at the end of the day Final Fantasy XIII is a story about us. Fuck

>>533374080
I still don't get him. He posts in the most obnoxious way possible, and then get offended when people get tired of his autistic ass.
It's like that
>hurr durr hey guise i'm stupid lmao
>fuck off retard
>joke's on them i-i-i-i was only pretending to be retarded

Also about the socio-political interpretation of XVI: I'll be honest, I just think that this interpretation can be abstracted and cleared of details related to economics and politics. I would highlight 3-4 layers of interpretation of the story of XVI:
1) Socio-political commentary. Include here your reasoning about capitalism, the opposition of horizontal and vertical social systems in the style of Hideaway vs any system of subjugation, environmentalism, and so on, whatever the fuck you want.
2) The pedagogical-moral layer, making the whole story like a modern bildungsroman, the story about coming of age.
3) The metaphysical layer, telling about the dynamics of categories of will and pure reason.
4) The layer of crossroads between reflexive, meta-prose-like writing about Final Fantasy AND writing about the fundamental nature fantasy per se. As has happened many times in Final Fantasy, this crossroads writing tells about the meaning and purpose of fantasy in general and about fantasy as a literary genre (hence also about Final Fantasy as a series) in particular.
(1/?)

All I read is
>i have a small peepee and self-esteem issues so I'm insecure

(Couple of thoughts about layer 2) Immense sources of power (Mothercrystals) grant people instant prosperity, but eventually these advantages prevent them from growing up and breaking free of their mother's apron strings. The reason is that any magic in the game is a form of rapid fantasy-to-reality transformation, where fantasy and reality are not mediated by any human labor, by really any effort. This immense power also (or thus?) creates a desire to use it to subjugate others. Eventually, the strongest of these immature men-children become slave owners, enslave vast numbers of people, depriving them of their freedom, but in doing so they themselves become slaves to their own or any other's power, as demonstrated repeatedly in the story with the examples of Benedicta and Kupka etc. The slave owner eventually becomes a slave. The alternative to this regression are horizontal social structures like the Hideaway, where everyone is free and lives on their own terms. According to the writers, horizontal structures are stronger, better, and more durable than any structure of forced submission or any other structure, even a structure of complete unity and wholeness in which the parts are indistinguishable. This latter type of connection is presented in the final version of Ultima - Ultimalius. In a structure like the Hideaway tho, a person learns to take responsibility for their actions, to live responsibly, independently and not relying on instant "mother's" help (MOTHERcrystals, magick in general). In this sense layer 1 (socio-political) connects to the layer 2 (moral) of the story. Not a coincidence that the horizontal connection of consciousnesses - in other words, the power of friendship - is also a virtue that can break the vicious circle of subjugation. Consciousnesses of MCs in the story are connected, but 1) do not dissolve in each other (as in the case of Ultimalius) and 2) do not generate hierarchies of subjigation.

(2/?)

>>533379396
What should we talk about now that we've filtered them?

(Couple of thoughts about layer 2, cont)
In the most abstract terms, ignoring such specific interpretations as dependence on fossil fuels/nuclear energy and other socio-political readings, XVI can be consistently interpreted as a coming-of-age story. The story of how one day you have to leave the place under your mother's skirt, and ultimately the story of how life outside your mother's skirt will never be easy and will bring many difficulties, but it is the only way to avoid becoming a pampered slave of instant gratification.

3/?
>>533381163
and I have Vanille on my side

(Couple of thoughts about layer 3) I would read the story of XVI with a high degree of confidence as a story of the dynamics of pure reason and will. Of course, in this matter the writers chose voluntarism as the winner. Just as Clive represents the pure will, thirsty for life, overcoming barriers and stubborn with unreasonable resistance, so Ultima represents the pure and cold mind, thinking only of a New Age of Reasoning. Unifying, purifying and erasing all differences (which is particularly well emphasized in Ultima's final image - Ultimalius: a collective of beings united in one body so that all differences are erased, and these beings themselves individually are indistinguishable from one another also), and in its natural desire to elevate and seclude itself in an ivory tower above everything, in its own striving for totality and ideal (the world of Ultima is his ultimate, his FINAL FANTASY) the mind becomes tyrannical in the cold light of its own lonely reflections. This aspect of the mind/pure reason has been discussed in world culture, but I'm not gonna stop on that.

I will also briefly note that in the course of the story, Clive's dynamic is a bottom-up dynamic - the dynamic of will ascending to reason and becoming self-aware. The Mythos/Logos distinction is tied to this ascent from a state of blind religious piety and belief in myths / fairy tales to something conscious. Although this dynamic is poorly realized in Clive, it is, so to speak, outlined in his story. Ultima's dynamic for the realization of his plan, in turn, is top-down. This is the descent of pure reason to the attainment of will. It is for this reason that Ultimalius - the full form of Ultina - in the final battle begins to express visible emotions during the fight with Clive. He's really starting to get angry, mind you.

(4/?)

So does Stranger of Paradise retcon Dissidia?

>>533381220
Let's talk about how Pixel Remaster cucked me out of cannonneers.

(Couple of thoughts about layer 4) The book scene at the end lends itself to being interpreted as the scene most closely related to the writers' meta-commentary on the FF series in particular and the nature and meaning of fantasy in general. A fantasy story lying on a table in an ordinary world devoid of the mythical/sacred/magical is a relic of an old mythical time, a reminder of the world from which the new world these children and their mother live in came from. The book adds the nuance that the story of XVI does not fully follow the narrative of total secularisation, that after Clive's feat, despite the absence of magic in the hypostasized sense, there is still room for magical ways of thinking, fantasy and imagination (hence the title of the book and the children playing eikons).
Clive, as a chronicler of his own world, by collecting into his compendium the images (eikons) and stories of various great and ordinary people, ultimately leaves as a heritage this piece of "magic" in the form of a fantastic story to the new secular world, thus reinterpreting the very concept of "magic" from hypostasized one -- magic as fireballs -- to a more allegorical -- magic as a fantasy story, as something that exists in the domain of imagination.
(5/?)

>>533381880
Weren't cannoneers post-game anyway? What's even the point?

What is the pajeet blogging about now? All I see are a bunch of filtered posts.

Give it to me straight my friends, is it good for someone like me who enjoyed FF7 original and remake-rebirth, FF15, FF14, FF6, FF9? I like both action games and rpgs.

>>533382484
its hardly an RPG and not a very good action game.
Unless you're a huge fan of XIV's writing style, don't expect a good time.

(Couple of thoughts about layer 4, cont) The nature and meaning of fantasy per se in the story is that magic in the world of XVI, in a sense, nullifies the value of human personal efforts in their deeds because it is a direct manifestation of one's imagination (this is an apt description of magic from ATL). The manual labor shown by the children in the scene after the credits, as well as their ability to still fantasize creatively under the inspiration of the "Final Fantasy" book, is seen in the story as a better alternative because it does not diminish the value of an individual's own effort to realize fantasy. In other words, magic in XVI is a wish-fulfiller that gives birth to laziness (Joshua's fat bird metaphor), inability to be autonomous (always under the MOTHERcrystal's skirt) and really introspective of value of your and others' actions, while manual human labor is a more harmonious way of bringing fantasy to reality, since it engages human effort and allows for understanding on the value of that effort.

This contains, on the one hand, the position of the authors on the meaning of fantasy as such, and on the other hand, the position on the nature of the fantasy genre. Fantasy as a genre is not about fireballs. Fantasy as a genre is not about cool swords, Shiva's ASS, fiery summons. Fantasy in itself is not a place where it is worth staying forever, it is not an act to which you need to devote your entire life. Finally, fantasy should not be directly transformed into reality. Fantasy is what encourages real work and effort without a guidance, encourages transformation of reality, despite pain, suffering and possible displeasure. In this thought, all the above-mentioned layers of the XVI story are especially clearly visible.
(6/6)

>>533382298
Blogging about Final Fantasy.

>>533382484
It's a fun game, but not really a roleplaying game. You have limited agenda, it's more "play Clive's story" instead of "play your self-insert story".
So it's just like VIIR, really.

What drives the people who come here to say nothing other than "I see filtered posts, someone tell me what has been filtered"
I don't understand them

>>533383413
You roleplay as Clive. It's a JRPG.

>>533382298
You struck a nerve, he's angry about you now.

>No Triangle Strategy 2
Vanilleover....

Is FF just not big?
How did they not get a dedicated spot in the Nintendo direct over Octopath?
They relegated Tactics to a sizzle reel

>>533388159
Because Tactic is a remake.

>>533384386
You role play as Mario, therefore Mario Odyssey is an RPG.

>>533388159
It isn’t any more. >>533356115

Is FFVI a good game to start with? Or does it build off previous games hard?

>>533390296
I don't think any game builds off the previous ones in particular, so just start with whichever you like?

>>533390379
Alright, thanks. Is the sound+color patched GBA version still the recommended version or is the “uncensored” SNES retranslation considered better?

>>533390697
For VI? I think it's the SNES retranslation, since I'm not aware of anything the GBA version is.
Emphasis on "not aware", there might be stuff added to it that I don't know about, but to my knowledge, it's mostly IV and V that have new stuff on GBA.

>>533391054
From what I’ve gathered the GBA version has a post-game dungeon which isn’t really a dealbreaker for me, I just wanted to know whether either of them still have any mistranslations/other issues

>>533389696
Yes. Paper Mario is an RPG. If you want to self insert go play Skyrim.

>>533391905
The original releases of the FF games always have horrendous translation, so if it's an issue, get either the GBA or the Pixel Remaster one.

>>533390296
I'd start with IV. It's not as archaic as I-III, and it'd be hard to go back to it afterwards.

>>533383413
>You have limited agenda, it's more "play Clive's story" instead of "play your self-insert story".
This applies to 90% of the series, thoughever.

>>533393757
Exactly. But somehow it's okay when VIIR does it, but not when XVI does it.

>>533394880
Most of the complaints I've heard about XVI is that it's a dumbed down ARPG with worse combat than SOP.

>>533395710
Be patient, the yoshicultist still doesn't understand why people don't like XVI.

>>533395710
Take a good look at >>533396095. This is the person complaining about XVI.
Do you really think you can trust these... "people"?

>>533397217
More than I'd trust you honestly.

>>533374521
I can confront any powerful enemy if I'm with Lightning, the strongest heroine...

>>533400590
>he said this in 2018
So what are the chances that he still thinks about her every day?

>>533392068
Nta but Paper Mario is not Mario Odyssey???
That anon was wrong for saying xvi isn't an RPG because of its story. It's not an RPG because of its gameplay.
Just like Mario Odyssey is not an RPG and paper Mario ttyd is one. This all seems like common sense

>>533398557
Oh, so you're just another sockpuppet of the one without father.

>>533402793
sure whatever

>>533382484
>is it good for someone like me who enjoyed FF7 original and remake-rebirth, FF15, FF14, FF6, FF9?
Yes. And contrary to the opinion of salty niggers of the thread, it is an RPG.

>>533402793
You struck a nerve.

>>533395710
That's pretty much true to a tee.
It's not an unplayable broken shit mess like some might say, it's just not a regular jrpg at all, and it's not particularly good at being an action game.
SoP had the huge benefit of being developed by a studio that made action games.
Xvi was made by MMO devs who had never made any single player game, and it feels like it was made by MMO devs in a bad way very often.
In an effort to make peace with the warring factions of rabid weirdos itt, I'd like to say that xvi does have redeeming traits. Some of the characters are cool (Cid and Hugo), the voice acting was great, and everyone loves a big Kaiju fight.

>>533395710
They would be correct. The game is pure empty spectacle.

>>533354481
No he didn't.

>"We asked Itahana to draw the patch art for 7.3, which also includes this theme. Incidentally, there have been a lot of developments within the company, and Itahana is now working in Creative Studio 3 (CS3)."

>"Itahana was originally a Hika-sen, so he'd always said, "I'll draw for you anytime," but there were a lot of procedures that needed to be done when crossing departments... But now that he's in CS3, it's become much easier to ask him for help (laughs)."

>"This time, he first drew three or four rough drafts, then adjusted the character placement and orientation based on the intent of the scenario, and finally created the current patch art, which I think turned out really well. Itahana was also in charge of the design of Sphene itself. It's likely that we'll see more patch art drawn by Itahana in the future, not just for Sphene or this one."

>>533383848
They seek attention but are too socially stunted to try and engage with any discussion even through anonymous message boards.

>>533409326
Too insecure to talk about the games they like? Very sad

>about to reach the temple in Rebirth
>go back and start collecting summons which i haven't done a single one

I like all Final Fantasies (except fifteen (which isn't a Final Fantasy)).

Square is still doing updates for older Switch games but not FF
DQ3 just got updated today for free and so did Romancing Saga

>>533414910
I fail to see the issue, obviously Square would focus on its actually important series.

>>533414910
Not Final Fantasy games

After beating 9 and letting it digest a little bit, I think I liked the game more then I initially thought, I liked the entire cast and I think Zidane is my favorite protag in the series, before Cecil was my favorite since 4 was my first experience with FF and I'm a sucker for the whole redemption shit, but Its hard to explain why I like Zidane so much other than "he's a good character"
While I had a few issues with 9 I think I might go back and do another playthrough sooner then expected and fully explore everything

>>533408172
That's because Nintendo poached CS3's best artist to direct Donkey Kong.

>>533420994
>this was CS3's best artist
grim.

>>533401006
Toriyama??? Dude, I think about her every day!
Toriyama must think about her every hour.
I think the question you should be asking is....does Tetsuya Nomura still think about her?

>>533382267
>What's even the point?
There isn't one. Outside of throwing his Lightning-based tantrum every day, he doesn't know what to do with his emotions.

>>533380886
>>533381189
>>533381324
>>533381724
>533382146
>533383241
FINALLY, some FUCKING FANTASY.

>Fantasy is what encourages real work and effort without a guidance, encourages transformation of reality, despite pain, suffering and possible displeasure
Nice work, bro. Great stuff, truly. You really do understand FF. Good screenshots too that tie together all the different points that you make. You're a talented writer and thinker! You are far and away the very best poster in all of /ffg/. Have a Vanille. Have two. Your posts are the reason I come here, after all.

>>533280590
>Lightning Returns stagger was proto-Ff7r stagger
Yeah, I acknowledged that when I said that they were heading in that direction with LR. I'm just not a fan of stagger becoming a mandatory phase in every boss fight where the enemy keels over for a few seconds and lets you dump damage on them consequence-free.
Meanwhile in XIII and -2, most enemies can still fight back when staggered. You can essentially stunlock them via launching and juggling, but that's something the player has to actively do to maintain their advantage. The stagger system in XIII and -2 is also connected to the damage multiplier system, which is in place to reward players for being more circumventing an enemy's defenses to apply consistent DPS.
I still enjoy VIIR and VIIRb. Scanning enemies and figuring out how best to exploit their weaknesses is fun. The stagger system in those games just feels a bit half-assed and lacking in meaningful decision-making. The game might as well just take a chunk off their healthbar when the stagger bar fills, or a slightly bigger chunk if Tifa's in the party.

>/ffg/ is still just oneguy talking to himself while stroking off XIII and shitting on XVI
Grim. We've been in this arc of /ffg/ for like an entire year now.

>>533402057
Our apologies, the cultists here are not very intelligent with the things they type. They will say literally anything, as long as it defends the FF game they champion.

>The stagger system in those games just feels a bit half-assed and lacking in meaningful decision-making
I'm gonna agree. I wish it had FFXIII style juggles or 999% damage multiplier that you could work up to. FFXIII made Stagger feel like a mechanic that is truly required to succeed.

Here's my suggestion on how to improve Stagger: Finishers. Like SOP or any other great action game, there should be a finishing move with a button prompt that you can initiate to immediately kill a mob that's been staggered. A perfect way to do this for an RPG is to design finishers for every party member, and then when you activate the finisher, it will grab one of your party members. So it's not just Cloud smashing and grabbing, but Barret, Tifa, Yuffie, Red, etc. This would make combat faster and more satisfying whenever you land that Stagger, rewarding you with an instant kill if the enemy health is low enough.

Like you mentioned too, there should be some sort of juggling! There are ways to bring enemies up into the air and keep them there, but making Staggered enemies juggle-able instead of laying down on the ground for you to wack would instantly improve that Stagger state. Considering how you can even literally Launch some enemies using some specific skills, it would be a pretty easy change. If I could knock them up into the air after Stagger and then smash them down again or finish them off with a finisher, that would make interacting with the Stagger phase literally 3X as interesting, being open to more player expression

Instead of just wacking dude with whatever strongest ability you have, you might input a quick button prompt sequence (think Bushido moves) to do a cool kill animation that instantly defeats them.

>>533428491
Vanille kun didn't shit on XVI. I didn't either, cultist.

>>533428850
woops meant to reply to you
>>533427562

>>533428491
Its only been a couple months of you obsessing over XIII, before that it was rebirth and before that it was barry.
As long as you don't admit yoshida is a hack, you'll move onto some other target. Maybe kingdom hearts or dragon quest.

>he replied to be my melting down
>twice

>>533382484
If you're interested in it, then get it. But just know, you're not buying an RPG. Plain and simple. It's a very long, cinematic action game. There is no party building, there is no roleplaying. Final Fantasy "items" are basically non-existent. Exploration is in-organic. All the FF RPG elements have been completely sanded away. There are no damage types or elements or statuses. There is literally nothing else to the game but 40 hours of wacking/dodging/cooldown dump, interspersed with 20 hours of some very nice cutscenes and boss fight setpieces.

7/10 ish.

>>533429423
You've done it now, he failed to reply to you and failed to post Final Fantasy while crying about imaginary thread enemies. A triple whammy.

>>533382484
It's 10/10 peak high fantasy kino

when i played on launch: had to drop my wife aerith in ff7 rebirth normal difficulty.
Now i am going to play it on hard with her after learning how to use her

The 39/40 Final Fantasy XIII?
Worth revisiting.

>>533431247
You are a moron. Shes OP.

I think the current state of /ffg/ is a result of Detective Joe (Jr) desperately trying to create a new pointless case to obsess over after the last one fell apart.

>>533431389
FFXII - The perfect Final Fantasy,
received a 40/40 score from Famitsu btw.

>>533420994
That’s actually not true, same name but not the same guy
However the guy who did direct DK worked on XV

>>533431738
You don't say? Pretty cool.

39/40

>>533431903
XIII-2 is good because they fixed everything that was shit about XIII,
and Serah, Noel and Caius are all likeable.
Too bad that all went downhill again with LR.

Likely just cope but the Octopath director isn’t involved with Octo 0 or that action RPG
Some people are trying to theorize a FF6 remake or Chrono Trigger
A very few people claim that it’s Live A Live 2, since the director of that remake said if the remake sells 1 million on PS4/5/PC they’ll be able to make a sequel but obviously it didn’t.

>>533431617
Detective Joe is gone, Jim. That saga has long passed us by. You have to suffer something a lot less interesting now. The current oneguy endlessly shitposts about nerves getting struck, people not having fathers, and how much he hates Lightning.

>>533431617
Astute observation. Perhaps he should work more on his undercover skillset.

>>533432407
He's been credited in the DQ remakes so he's probably been busy with that until now.

>>533432162
>XIII-2 is good
Glad we agree

>>533431738
we need to return to Ivalice

>>533432585
*disagree

Old, tired and brown setting? Again? Gross. Sorry.
How about we return to a fragrant setting again? Something that isn't just dark, grim and boring?

>>533432548
From what I can tell he’s just support, the Dragon Quest remakes are being handled by another studio on the outside of SE, he’s basically there to make sure they follow the HD-2D guidelines

>>533433094
retard

>>533433394
Why do you want the same setting again for the 5th time
Do you love furries that much

/fragrant/i;boards:vg;op:no

>>533337736
Sad but true.

>>533432767
Based and >>533431738
Based
Ivalice chads are the only posters worth a shit here tbqh

>>533432154
Personally? 16/10

>>533433473
>said the VII compilation slurper without the slightest hint of self-awareness

>>533433731
Maybe on planet down syndrome

>>533433812
KEK

>>533432431
I only wish I knew what set him off and what he's actually fighting, but then again, that was always the mystery with the "J" case too. So we'll probably never find out.
>>533432443
This pic always made me laugh.
>>533433473
>Why do you want the same setting again for the 5th time
Careful, let's not accidently upset any compilation fans.

Uh oh, someone is getting upset about Final Fantasy again

>>533433537
That one its already in the filterlist

Dont forget to report and ignore avatarfags

>>533433812
>>533433883
both me btw

>>533433743
>VII anger/jealousy out of nowhere
How revealing

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>>533433690
Ivalice bros are already winning this year. Hopefully we keep that momentum going and Kitase retires asap so we can get even more high fantasy kino.