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>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com
>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn
>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E
>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w
>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk
>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is
>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
>Final Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG
>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
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>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
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Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
>>532843081If only, but the fatherless cannot admit this.
Why everyone hates Final Fantasy here?
>>532842979 (OP)Where is the fucking remake, Square???
>>532843296*modern Final Fantasy
>>532843296I love Final Fantasy. How about you? Especially the muse, Eclaire, Lightning Farron. With her, you can confront any powerful enemy. She's the strongest heroine after all
My wife Eiko is super cute!
>>532843758>post immediately got filtered Thank God this general finally has a filter list
>>532843695Are XI, XII, XIV and XVI considered "modern" Final Fantasy games? Asking for a friend
Oh wow another filtered post!
>>532843954>replying to itIt seems entirely useless.
Thank God you always let everyone know what posts you're filtering, instead of posting Final Fantasy. Not sure what we'd ever do without you
>>532844195You struck a nerve, the One With No Father is seething.
>>532844230The funniest part is the default filename. And then the tranny gets mad if you type out a filename. They just get mad about FF, period. They don't post it.
Post FF for yourself and watch what happens
Oh no! lightning cuck melty!
Looks like he hasn't recovered from this
My beautiful wife Eclaire? Muse.
Sex with feet? Irrefutable. Afraid so. Many such cases.
>>532844735Some of these are just redundant
>>532844812No THIS is based
>>532844935They're not I assure you.
>>532844935Half of them are literally just my filters I shared here, copy pasted over. Pretty intriguing which Final Fantasy games these people get so sensitive over existing and being posted though, I admit.
>>532845372Filtered post! Filtered post! The pink haired woman is just so scary.....
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One true love and goodnight hugs! Canon and cute!
>>532843252He makes good classic high fantasy Final Fantasy. He carries on Sakaguchi and Matsuno's legacy.
Team Asano are the only other ones that would be a viable alternative.
Without Yoshi-P, we'd be stuck with Nomurian nuFF (Kingdom Hearts)
>>532845784>Classic high fantasyYawn.
>Sakaguchi>MatsunoBoth were fired from Square Enix for a reason.
>>532846176This but the complete opposite.
>>532845784Okay. So you have a dismissive and rigid concept of Final Fantasy. Very lame and gay. Have you ever been told that before?
You're admitting Yoshida doesn't have his own ideas by conflating his work with the previous, more creative men that he steals from. Btw.
So no respect from you for the legendary games like FFVII, FFVIII, FFX that paved the way for Final Fantasy to still exist today?
FFXIII trilogy has some of the very best gameplay and music in the entire series you know. What about Stranger of Paradise? How old are you, guy?
>>532846176While I don't agree with what this says, the schism illustrated here shows the fundamental differences between
>flexible, young, open minded person ready to face new ideas>old, stiff, close minded person stuck in their waysI have an open mind with FF and what FF is. It's not tied to the color on the screen.
It's tied to the DESIGN of a JRPG experience, and the emotions that experience can elicit.
It allows you to enjoy the high fantasy setting and a science fantasy setting alike and you won't piss and cry when it inevitably changes around.
Whenever I bought FFXVI, I was very fucking excited to play this so called "good classic high fantasy Final Fantasy" that these people were shilling.
Because I love FF, I liked the trailers, and I wanted a new party based, action JRPG. But I didn't get that at all. Nobody did. FFXVI wasn't that game.
FFXIV isn't really that game either. It's not a JRPG, it's an FF reference carnival ride, WoW clone, and a literal "dress up" Barbie doll simulator. Never ending storyline without a central theme, and lore that is as bland as it is incomprehensible and dense. If I want to go play dress up, there are certainly better games out there. And If I want to play a Final Fantasy JRPG, there are definitely better out there.
If I want to play a dress up Final Fantasy JRPG, there are two very distinct options out there that come to mind.
>>532846176>XVI is not Final FantasyOver time, I came to appreciate the story of XVI more and appreciate the combat system less. Played this game with difficulty mods yet even they can't salvage some fundamentally retarded design choices devs made. Most of the time, there is unending battle with camera, not with enemies. XVI's camera is not just bad at rotating, it constantly takes control away from the player (cinematic dodge! cinematic kill! cinematic slop! whoa cinematic Vanille's ass!), and this just turns crowd control into a literal torture. Oh and by the way enemies can attack being outside of the frame.
Bosses do not pose a threat even with increased health and attack, cause their moves are easy to predict and dodge/parry windows are very generous. The only source of problems in the game with mods is squads of normal mobs + large enemies with a will bar: a normal mob can come from behind and kill you with a couple of stabs (being off camera) while you are focused on a large enemy, and this is the only thing you should care about. Pack of regular mobs - easy. Enemy with a will bar - easy. Most of the bosses - easy. Pack of mobs + enemy with will bar - very hard.
The simplest algorithm for destroying these aforementioned squads is to:
I) Group mobs with leviathan ability "Cross Swell" (locked behind DLC) and destroy them all en masse ASAP,
II) switch attention to a massive enemy with a will bar, which alone does not pose any threat.
Basically the hardest battles in the game can be reduced to:
A) Leviathan shooting and dodging spam, which is very effective against....everyone ( Vanilleover ),
B) aforementioned algorithm.
Fundamentally, the combat system in the game is broken, it should be changed in many ways. Bad, no, retarded camera! Predictive enemy behaviour. Limit on the number of active abilities. Balanced for toddlers. Even if you play with difficulty mods, the winning algorithm is very straightforward and universal.
I think we can all agree that XIII is shit
There is indeed a very clear distinction between competing FF lineages and the studios of men that are behind them.
That's where tribalism ultimately comes from. Not even the games themselves. But the developers.
People that are old and bitter, and will never move on from sucking on Hironobu's gooch take their dying stand how "FF can only look the way I imagine Sakaguchi wants it to".
This is now the same idea that Yoshida represents, which is the reason why they
>>532845784 worship him. Yoshida is really just a proxy for wish fulfillment.
One of the FF teams follows from the legacy of FFVII all the way through to the FNC and FFVII Remake. That team usually includes Yoshinori Kitase, Tetusya Nomura and Kazushige Nojima in a pivotal role.
Their games almost always create a brand new world with never before seen concepts and design elements, while keeping key ideas familiar.
The other team comes from a splintered and fragmented group that is often broken and re-assembled at will by the company whenever necessary.
Whether it's IX being just references, XI being "not-Everquest", XII being "not-an-MMO" but in Ivalice, XIV being "not-WoW in not-Ivalice", or XVI being a movie game in "not-Ivalice".
These games almost always reuse the "fantasy" elements in a much safer, by the numbers way.
Also I want to point out something very obvious that some people don't seem to comment on very often.
The 3D "high fantasy" games all have an overwhelmingly brown, muted color scheme, and barring XVI, are all blatant "furry" games.
I'll let that speak for itself.
>>532851242Hey mate! I'm the only person who will reply to you so I'll share some thoughts.
>Fundamentally, the combat system in the game is brokenI figured that out pretty fast. Though it took time to actually appreciate how broken.
It's totally gimped out and casualized, like modern God of War with cuh-razy controls.
The entire length of the game fails to present you with one single combat challenge
It has the weirdest automation. Because it's FF it has to be "casualized" so that 45 year old journalists can play it with one hand? What the fuck was that?
This automation design in the combat system being flaunted to the public like it's an accomplishment to automate gameplay expression in DMC is more embarrassing than most are willing to admit.
Switching the game to Control type B with the attacks on the right bumper and dodge on Circle improved the experience for me.
Like you described, the camera is just awful. So freely attacking without the lock on is crucial.
But that just straight up doesn't happen if you're using your thumb to press the attack button.
So either you claw that shit to turn the camera while attacking, or you use the lock on, or you switch the control scheme.
Think about how fucking bone headed this is compared to contemporaries. Compared to FFVIIR, even.
I think it's possible to salvage that XVI/DMC gameplay system for another game, because there's potential. But it's not from adding on more enemy mechanics so you can pretend there's depth.
The game needs ROLEPLAY. It needs weapon types, elements, resistances, statuses. It needs actual spells to cast, it needs actual Items to use.
It needs controllable and command-able party members with skills. It needs meaningful equipment and rewards. It needs an actual skill tree with permanent roleplay decisions.
Do you take this skill, or that skill? Do you invest in some new branch so you can get to that special ability, or do you keep investing into Health/Defense/Speed/Attack?
cinematic Vanille's ass...
>>532842979 (OP)Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>532850997>purple eyeswtf...
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>>532535438>>531624704This is the only good thing to come of /ffg/ in recent times
>>532863446It's constantly talked about because it is not a complete game. It is episodic.
Whether you agree that splitting the game into three was a good thing is up to you. There are both pros and cons.
Personally with how they deliver it, I'm happy with being 3-parters and the good things vastly outweigh the bad.
>>532864085I agree, but I'm referring to the fact that jimbo said "yes it's me, what do you want?" to the junior detective who immediately realised they didn't even know. Like a dog chasing a ball but with no idea what to do once they have it. I think the death note comic was a funny way to visualise it.
>>532856273>casualized, like modern God of WarGoW 2018 nearly filtered me on "Give Me God of War" difficulty. I swear, that game was brutal. I remember clearly in 2020 sitting on the couch hiding my face in my hands, whispering to myself something about how I fucking can't play this game and I'm done. The first hours especially were brutal.
>game fails to challenge youfr
>salvage XVIIF their approach to the heir of XVI as an action game remains similar, and their bet is on improving the action mechanics of XVI, not adding any RPG elements, then I say - add (A) a system of elemental reactions and (B) a system of differences between the elements, expressed in action form.
(A) The system of elemental reactions is what allows you to play not reactively, studying enemy weaknesses, but proactively, combining elements with different effects and thereby achieving better results in the game. This system, if configured properly, will not limit the player's freedom, but will encourage experimentation with reactions. What Genshin did in its own combat system is a revolution, but Genshin is cattle feed developed by Chinese psychologists specializing in gambling and FOMO, not a vgame, so even its combat system can't salvage it. But if you take this gem of an elemental reaction system and use it in a normal game, I expect great results and new Vanillebeginning in the gaming industry.
(B) As for the system of differences between elements expressed in action mechanics, everything is simple: no one prevents you from making air spells such that they have a grouping effect, Shiva's moves can freeze enemies, Titan's magic casts can work like Dante's shotgun instead of a pistol, and so on. XVI partially follows this scheme, since some Siva's spells freeze enemies, but it takes very timid steps in this direction. The point is the uniqueness of each element can be expressed in action form, rather than in numerical form or in the form of traditional RPG status effects.
>>532853679After many years of deep Serah-tier 200IQ reflections, I cannot agree with this statement. The story of XIII alone is beautiful and fragrant, and true. I get that people do not understand the story of XIII very well, and this is evident from the essays that have appeared on YouTube even in the last few years. They, in particular, believe that the story of XIII is a story about resisting fate and regaining autonomy. While being true, still a very superficial, partial reading. I believe that XIII is abandonment kino. This truth is yet to be discovered by future Claire scholars. It is a story about what happens to people when they are abandoned in every possible sense of the word, and it is also a story about how to overcome this fundamental trouble.
i'm still halfway rebirth but
isn't the translations fucked in a lot places?
>>532889778I'm not weeb enough to know the difference.
>>532889778Most Final Fantasies are unfortunately. FF are too retarded to actually be vocal about any of it.
>>532890017you dont need to be that much of a weeb to notice some things
specially when the translation says "you alright?" and you heard "cloud!!"
in my defense i haven't watched anime in 12 years
>>532890440You aren't missing anything. Anime peaked with SG back in 2011.
>>532891457there are a few things i want to watch
but unlike 2010 when i was watching 4 hours of new anime daily. its just a few ones like
>durarara sequel>code geass (anything after season2)>higurashi (whatever sequel/remakeat some point i should watch attack on titan i guess, but i did read the manga so whatever
>>532891457>Anime peaked with SGStargate?
Final Fantasy needs to make a game like this desu
>>532889778Rebirth is indeed a victim of being trannylated.
>>532843296But I love Final Fantasy.
It is time to accept Vanille.
Vanille acceptance movement starts now.
>>532896297>buy copyhow did whoever made this post think this was a win?
>>532843296It's easier to think of /ffg/ as oneguy's "Final Fantasy House" themed shitpost thread rather than something dedicated to people enjoying or even talking about Final Fantasy, which typically only occurs as a tertiary or tangential component to the primary purpose, which is for him to do and say anything he can to try to rustle the jimmies of someone who said something that he didn't like on a different website 5 years ago.
>>532889778The english translation is the only one that must be played with english voices otherwise yes, it is fucked
>>532902921This place really hasn't been the same since the great acceptance.
>>532912091The real reason that oneguy hates Yoshida? Because his bogeyman's supposed Steam account gave a positive rating to XIV.
Why are these threads so slow now?
>>532922643EU shitposters got banned from the internet. Sadly the lightningcuck is still here evading the law and spamming on 4chan
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it has been 33 years and V is still top tier FF kino
>>532922643It could be the EU/England ban. It could be something related to their real life. Maybe they're just shitting up some other thread right now. The last time we experienced days of peace was when Tower of Fantasy came out, so maybe there is a gacha that released somewhere. Don't question it, just enjoy it. If anything, it only further strengthens the belief that it's always been literally one guy.
>>532926534We know.
FFV is the quintessential Final Fantasy, after all.
>>532926828Take your meds
/quintessential/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>532931021Bodied that freak.
What is the best version of this game to play? Is there a version on PC that fixes the localization issues and lets me turn off random encounters when I want?
>>532947658remake and rebirth
>>532949332Aren't those sequels but not really sequels
>>532947658pretty sure the steam version has an option to turn random encounters off but if you do that you didnt play the game
>>5329476581) Ignore this retard
>>5329493322a) emulate the PS1 version to have an authentic experience of the original with all it's bugs and translations errors
2b) or emulate the switch version to get all the QoL features
2c) if you get the PC version then grab the 7th Heaven mod manager from their official page and download the mods that grab you attention
>>532949721It's a story based game and I have no interest and being involved in fights more than needed, but I also do enjoy turn based combat. I just prefer JRPGs where you can avoid encounters on the map.
>>5329500912c it is then
>>532947658Original PS1 version emulated on Beetle PSX (Retroarch) with CRT shader.
>532950091
>mods
What an imbecile.
>>532951670the story is honestly far weaker than people let on, 4/5/6 all have much better dialogue and narrative
>>532953000That looks horrible
>modder of rebirth keeps adding tifa outfits in dresscode
based
>...but he does it with fat tifa proportions
fuck off motherfucker
>>532955305You may not like it, but it's what the game looked like
(Also you're probably a phone poster or viewing the image downscaled)
Get in boys, we're playing XV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOu76HGYnCs
>>532956405Lmao you must have had a shitty ass CRT with colours like that nigger. Did your dumb ass drag a magnet accross it or some shit?? Sheeeesh
>>532953000Looks like shit.
>>532956405No, it did not.
VII is not worth revisiting.
>>532956405>that's what the game looked likeBack in my days, poorfags were actually ashamed of being poor, and stayed in their place, instead of being uppity and pretending they were the majority.
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Finally a GOOD FFXIII picture.
>>532901495Vanillebeginning...
>>532953000>>532956405This is nightmare-ish. Way too much. TV's did not look like that.
>>532896297its not like i ever read tags on steam
>>532903640playing it on jap with english subs
i'm spanish but my brother played it with spanish subs and also saw translations fuc-ups
>>532967141>i'm spanish but my brother played it with spanish subs and also saw translations fuc-upsyeah i replayed it in spanish as well with japs voices but in general it is a better translation
also its funny how they translated cait sith lines from being scottish into having cat puns
/ffg/ is full of spaniards?
>one spaniard
>"zOMG GUYS FFG IS FULL OF SPANIARDS"
American education at work, everyone.
I want an actual remake of VII
>>532979357Wrong timeline
>>532986850Sorry this might be AI upon closer look, apologies for uploading this, really thought it was a legit pic as I got it from a twitter page with lots of cosplay photos
>>532987038>tifautist can't even recognize an AI pictureCringe.
>>532987928Yeah, my bad, I got that pic last night before hitting bed, was half asleep when I saved that
Use this pic instead for "research purposes" instead
>Pardon the grammar, as in a hurry to reply
Last one for good measure
>>532990641Fuck off already
I could see them just doing FF12 combat again
>>533014778Pokemon is doing something closer to that now too
>>533015259What, sueing the competition to hide how shit their game is?
SE plans to sue E33 to make people forget how awful FFXIII is?
>>533015259Is this the Switch 2 game? Why did they only make the grass taller? lol
>>533015259Looks better than XVI combat.
>>533014778I would like them to revisit the FF8 combat system.
>>533016259Because similar to SE they refuse to move to a better engine.
Theyโre using the 2013 XY engine, which comes with some harsh limitations, GF devs hit the point where they said they canโt actually get the engine to go above 1080p no matter how little is on screen so they are forced to use DLSS.
Pretty sure most of the people who worked on the engine originally are gone now though, basically their version of Luminous or the XVI engine
i finally got out of the shadowban in reddit
Finally finished 9
And while I enjoyed it the amount of hidden shit drove me crazy, like hidden chests or items being invisible but you just have to interact with random spots, like getting mace of Zeus or fucking finding hades
Also the overworld exploration felt awful
Trance was cool but felt useless most of the time
Vivi was my favorite character with zidane behind him and quina and steiner were the only characters I didn't care for
Everyone else was good or great
>>533034381We know, Nanaki
>>533034431That's knot me
>>532962151Lightning has a big butt.
>>533034756No she doesn't, but that's fine.
She has a small Japanese butt. Like Aerith
>>533032274Thoughts on the controversial villain Necron?
>>533035429She's very happy after being bred
>>533035667>No she doesn'tI disagree.
>>533036505That's just her diaper
>>533036505Yeah alright, Private Joker
Real Lightning fans know better
>>533036752Remove the armor.
>>533035774Rng made me dislike the fight alot but I also didn't power grind or min max so it was rough
Plot wise I thought it was strange, kuja was good as the final baddie, and while I understand what they were going for I feel like it made kujas impact weaker
>>533036505Hope needs to use her butt as a pillow
>>533037358I will also die on the hill that the main title theme is one of the best pieces of music in the entire series
>>533038473For me, it's the main title theme of FFIV.
>>533036645Post padded lightning
>>532872146>IF their approach to the heir of XVI as an action game remains similar, and their bet is on improving the action mechanics of XVI, not adding any RPG elementsJust do both. DMCV has elements and better action both. They have the blueprints.
>>533041318I don't force others to see my fetish and you shouldn't either
>>533035774>NecronWhat were they thinking?
Well they did everything possible with real time combat, now what?
>>533046916Hopefully Square Enix files for bankruptcy
should i play ff6? i played it on ps1 a billion years ago because it came with a ffx demo
i only got to the part where terra turns into an esper and you fly around
i couldn't figure out what the fuck to do and then i lost my save, how far did i get?
>>533014778god fucking no there isn't a single worse combat system
it BARELY works at 4x speed
>>532877292XIII is a masterpiece
>>533052714It's a very underrated game that was horribly misunderstood when it came out.
>>533049240It's kino tbqh
For the long ass exploration and even longer optional bosses and shit in that game, they nailed it.
>>533055637>misunderstoodI think everyone understood perfectly.
Very pretty
Cool world
Unfinished vision in terms of gameplay and map design.
I think Aerith would be cute in a diaper and age regressing
>>533056515>UnfinishedHow so?
>>533046916Back to XIII combat we go!
I haven't finished it yet but I thought XIII was about finding purpose?
>>533056660The "hallway straight to endgame" design was not the initial vision of the game. The biggest complaint about the entire experience, and it could have been mitigated by simply taking a little more time to incorporate the extra content they, get this, had already done a bunch of work on. It was stated that the equivalent of an entire games worth of content was cut from XIII.
all of which could have further accentuated the great world building and fabula nova universe. Instead, they buckled on time and cut all the extra flavor and put the player on rails and shipped the game out.
It got mixed criticisms, and fabula nova got cancelled, <insert versus 13 rant>, and every game since has been shipped unfinished because they "got away" with it according to sales.
I am bitter because I like 13 but could have Loved it.
>>533056589Kill yourself pedo.
>>533059642That's not pedo
>>533059490Kitase did a number of interviews following the games release, sometimes contradicting his own words in different interviews. All that's clear is that the game could have been (and should have been) bigger and contained more side content and exploration.
>>533058172My favorite was when Kitase and Toriyama said that using a world map was too confusing for players, so they cut it from XIII.
Then they introduced time travel and universe hopping using a time/world map in XIII-2.
>>533055740i cant play 10 or 12 without speedhacks
emulators ruined me
>>533061374>emulators ruined meI think the zodiac age steam version has speed up in the game doesn't it? Like the steam version of 7?
I didn't pick up the x/x2 remaster but that seems like it should ship with it as well.
They know we are old now and don't have time to 9999hour these games Again.
>>533061659i don't know if it does but i emulated a shit ton back then when i was a neet
hadn't played all my favorite games in 10+ years shit was so kino went through all the zeldas, ffs, kh2:fm etc with a new perspective
>>533061896Makes sense, but yeah. Generally those kinds of emulation QOL features are starting to be included in remasters/re-released/collections- with some notable exceptions of course.
Also, the zodiac age is now considered the go-to new player version of 12. The list of differences between og 12 and TZA is pretty sizeable.
I prefer the OG license board though
>>533062473honestly the game feels like a chore when you can just afk on a bridge and kill 100 skeletons in a row
somehow i still run out of gil equipment is so fucking expensive in this game
>>533062712Leave those niggas in the mines alone
>>533074405>racismCringe.
>>533075251>Assuming racism Cringe.
The niggas in question are the skeletons.
The ones in the mines.
The mines that have a bridge of infinite skeletons.
Infinite skeleton niggas.
>>533075994>uses the n-word>"b-b-b-b-but i'm not racist, please mods don't delete my genitals!!"
>>533076069I'm very racist but not against blacks, retard
>>533080338We know, Cloud.
>>533080618I'm anon. Aerith belongs to me, and Tifa. If she asks nicely.
>>533080338Your GF loves BNC (Big Nanaki Cock)
>>533084556She's knot that knotty
I'm bored and unsure what game to play. I think I'm experiencing Final Fantasy fatigue.
>>533085747Only on Sunday
>>533086091Every day is sunday.
>>533085864Understandable. Have you been playing a lot of them back-to-back?
>>533086221Why do you want Aerith to get addicted to anal only...
>>533086598Because I find anal extremely hot.
I'm a light sadist and I get turned on by little gasps of pain.
>>533086687Finally something almost based from these trashposters
>>533086687Please use the proper amount of lube! I won't allow you to hurt her!
>>533095948Need more Aerith
>>533095948Needs less dead sluts
>>532842979 (OP)yeah yeah lets go hunt some demons or whatever
>>533097707I don't see any being posted
>>533098089>Necrophiliacposting Shameful and disgusting
The Fantasy that is Final...
Lot of filtered posts. Is the fatherless seething about XIV's success again?
>>533140118No, it's me, posting about the Everblooming Rose.
They say that crystals epitomize eternity, well then Magnificent Muse epitomize the ultimate finality of fantasy...
Enthroning rose, for those in days gone by
A simple goblet with a single rim,
For us, however, the full infinite bloom,
The object no perception can exhaust.
In your massed wealth you seem to us to be
A gown, thrown over a gown, thrown over a body
Thatโs nothing but light. And yet your single petal
Is shunning and refusal of all dress.
For centuries your fragrance has called out
Its sweetest names to us. Now suddenly
It weighs upon the air, like fame. And yet
We donโt know what itโs called. We take a guess.
And memory goes over to its side,
Abandoning the hours we could have named.
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"Rose, du thronende, denen im Altertume
warst du ein Kelch mit einfachem Rand.
Uns aber bist du die volle zahllose Blume,
der unerschรถpfliche Gegenstand.
In deinem Reichtum scheinst du wie Kleidung um Kleidung
um einen Leib aus nichts als Glanz;
aber dein einzelnes Blatt ist zugleich die Vermeidung
und die Verleugnung jedes Gewands.
Seit Jahrhunderten ruft uns dein Duft
seine sรผรesten Namen herรผber;
plรถtzlich liegt er wie Ruhm in der Luft.
Dennoch, wir wissen ihn nicht zu nennen, wir raten ...
Und Erinnerung geht zu ihm รผber,
die wir von rufbaren Stunden erbaten."
So yeah, it's the fatherless again.
I thought the idea of filtering posts was that you did it to ignore posters. But it seems like the one doing the filtering has absolutely nothing to say each day other than dozens upon dozens of posts talking about all the filtered posts. Instead of using filters to ignore a shitposter, they've turned this general into a place where nothing else is ever talked about.
>>533141419You pissed off the fatherless, it stopped posting pictures to cry about being filtered.
>>533142126Very good strategy: to get everyone talking about Vanille. We in Vanille acceptance movement desperately need this. Before you accept something, you need to realize it and discuss it with yourself and others. Good good1
Vanille acceptance movement, Task 1: say something nice about Vanille.
Go on, don't be shy.
Posts like
>>533142207 seem to be pretty counter-intuitive for reasons I doubt I have to explain.
/filters/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>533144019B TO THE A TO THE S TO THE E TO THE D
>>533142126No one itt uses the filters, they are shitposts
Ignore them
>>533085864>I'm bored and unsure what game to play. I think I'm experiencing Final Fantasy fatigueUnironically xvi or SoP is good for this since they are action games
>>533150138I use filters. Removing the lightning retard and his buttbuddy that spams fatherless makes the thread much more enjoyable to view.
>>533142207It's a loser, please understand it.
Why is Aerith so beautiful?
>>533150796>the one with no father is very madGood.
>>533150923Why are you replying to yourself?
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whats next for final fantasy? I loved Origins and XVI
>>533154492I hope they give another studio a crack at a FF story personally.
I'm not a huge fan of the direction or gameplay in xvi but SoP was really refreshing and ninja did a great job with the story and gameplay. Super cool love letter to the history of FF.
It's more likely that xvii will be another cbu3 special though. :(
>see account posting this as the model they should have used as the Remake model
>profile pic is FF2 related
Why do the jokes write themselves
>>533154492>whats next for final fantasy?Yoshida gets fired.
>>533155531What went wrong?
>>533155796Not an MMO player but I guess their expansion was bad. I'd argue mmos are shit to begin with, but it must have been pretty broken and shitty for their loyal subscribers to turn on them
Dawntrail is underrated and Wuk Lamat did nothing wrong.
>>533157287what is it that people hate so much
Tell me about the problems plaguing your MMO
>>533157520It's nothing; just idiots who accuse everything of being woke.
>>533157287>>533157961You are delusional.
Dawntrail was written and directed extremely poorly.
I'm surprised that it has apologists, but I guess the most devout cultists will remain steadfast no matter what.
>>533157520Remember those awful parts in XVI where you just did fetch quests upon fetch quests upon fetch quests of absolutely nothing praying for it to end? They made an entire expac (30h) out of that and you also have to play cameraman for an hideous retard the whole way, and people didn't like it.
Im so happy /ffg/ finally has an official filter spam list
>>533157961Isn't FF 14 mostly for gamer girls and homosexuals, of course its "woke".
Male MMO players play wow or destiny or something.
Thats what most people think anyway.
>>533158973XIV only became woke after the WoWtrannies infested it
>>533158817Isn't that most of every mmo though
Am I gay if I'm attracted to Kuja
halfway still rebirth but
i'm surprise they didn't add a multiplayer mode for the chocobo races and whatever else there
>>533164135Depends do you want to rape or make love to kuja
Should I pick up 3 or 12 next
I've been trying to play some of the more "underrated" games, but Im not sure if I will like 12's combat
>>53317520712 is peak imo don't worry about liking or not liking the combat just try and get into it.
It's a more relaxed pace game with a lot to do
>>533177202I don't know much about it but I like the art style and the actual city aesthetic and such, balthier seems really cool and fran makes my dick diamonds
I just know it's one of the more controversial games due to the combat
>>533178270>the combatIt starts pretty tame, real time combat but you can micro manage every party members actions. Later down the line that becomes not viable so the gambit system picks up the slack, you kinda program the AI of your party and then intervene in real time/on the fly. I think it's unique and interesting, and maybe the last time they tried to do something really innovative.
But I see why some might not be attracted to it.
The aesthetics are peak, irrefutably.
>>533182486Maybe il pick up zodiac age when it goes on sale then and at least give it a try
Can I post here if I only played 7 and only have interest in works that are based around 7
>>533196163True but low key
>>533197352Yeah but you are not real for that
>>533197352A common tale of late.
Most regrettable.
>>533202127*cringe samefagging
>>533055637Its just not fun to play because of its progression system
>>533197723>>533201047How dare people only like the BEST FF game with the BEST girls
>>533204465its writing and plot are worse than 4,5 and 6 which all came before it and its movement genuinely feels clunky at times, an issue i dont think any other ff suffers from
>'What version should I play' pastebin says to play the Steam PC version of FF7
Yeah with the stupid gaping open mouths that ruin every scene, among other issues
Stupid
>>533197352I played VII OG and then every extension of VII, including the remakes, and boy is the original game the only thing remotely worth playing there
It's one original masterpiece and more soulless cash grabs than you can imagine
>>533207849Maybe the pastebin assumes you'd use 7th Heaven, along with the mod that lets Aerith live for your 2nd playthrough
>>533207849just drag and drop ffnx into your ff7 folder, there everything fixed + you have access to a slew of additions should you want them
I guess that settles that.
>>533196163>>533204465>BEST FF game with the BEST girlsThere is absolutely nothing wrong
with only liking the greatest FF of all time
FFXII
>>533211560It does have the best girls
How hard would it be to convince randos in FFXI to group up and run through the story together? I want to play it but I also don't really want to play with bots and I also have no friende.
>>533214420Sadly, very...
>>533214580That's a shame. People in XIV would do it. Granted, probably mostly out of boredom, but still.
>>53321005885% of this manโs audience is retarded.
Honestly Iโm surprised itโs that low.
The next final fantasy should have ATBBW combat.
Sad to report that all FF games after 12 are bad
>>533214420You can probably convince people. Just grab a Linkpearl in the main city when you start out and ask in the Assist channel. Make sure you're on Asura or Bahamut
>>533225781>implying 12 wasn't badYou're funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc2kxMmeh1g
>>533231686fuck off with your video essay slop
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>>533231686I hate these thumbnails that are so vague.
>"He was right all along">arrow and red circle>"Bowser did nothing wrong">"hitler was not the bad guy"
>>533234668Indeed, especially when he says that XVI totally mogs all the other FF and is a lot better.
>>533235010maybe on Planet Retard
>>533235010You struck a nerve, the tourist is angry.
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https://youtu.be/ORpGY2IMsls
World of Final Fantasy any fun?
>>533250572My favourite non-mainline FF game, so YES.
But Steam shagged it, place a shortcut to the .exe on the desktop and run it directly.
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>>533245517This is pretty good.
>>532842979 (OP)Why is the best fight in fucking training mode
Why aren't there more fights like this in the game
>>533057038>Back to XIII combatI wish. SE's newer devs fundamentally misunderstand the stagger system as a pressure release valve and nothing more. Sadly they were already moving in that direction with Lightning Returns, so it seems that in their eyes, it's a feature rather than a bug. At the very least, I'm not sure if it can get much worse than XVI's stagger system.
>>533058172>It was stated that the equivalent of an entire games worth of content was cut from XIII.This has always struck me as either heavy exaggeration or the "cut content" was stuff they never properly made. The only examples they gave were Lightning's house (which is in multiple cutscenes even if it's not explorable), Nora's secret base (which is presumably just a small room), and a zoo.
The only environment that was repurposed for XIII-2 was the one Eden building interior, which is also seen in the Ultimania concept art. Aside from that and a few other things, most of the concept art we see in the Ultimania is in the game in one form or another.
>>533279697You are a retard, Lightning Returns stagger was proto-Ff7r stagger and ff7r perfected it
>>533259348Is there more to this
>>533204838>its writing and plot are worse than 4,5 and 6Lol fuck no
4 and 5's characters are thin as fuck compared to 7's
6's characters are better than 4 or 5 and are about on par with 7, but the worldbuilding is sludge and the plot is a series of retarded contrivances to enable a clown to become god and nuke the planet
7 is basically what FF had been building to up to that point, which is why it's so beloved
Can I talk about XVI or does this general hate that game?
>>533284336I'm conflicted on 16, it has some 11/10 moments and shit like the bahamut fight turning into fucking gurren lagann was kino, but then you have to play the rest of the game, genuinely terrible item and crafting system that's pointless and the most pointless side quests ever aside from getting ambrosia
It was a fun 10 hour game that had to be padded and slowed down with so much random unnecessary bullshit to extend the play time to so it would be "final fantasy" instead of just a good action game
Locking you to 3 eikons at a time was annoying but still was fun, Clive just needed more actually moves
To me it's a 6/10 game the highs are fucking so high that I forget about the lows for long enough, but the rest of the game is a boring slog
I also like Clive
>>533284336Sure.
Personally I liked XVIโs main story and some of the side quest are interesting. But the majority of side quest are underwhelming to terrible which made playing a slog at times. Combat was fine, not a fan of it but didnโt hate it. VIIR has a better blend of atb and action which is more FF.
The main bosses are all kino, donโt think there was a single one I hated and all are hype as fuck.
7-8/10 imo.
>>533280590Correct.
All of XIII is proto 7R.
>>533280035Those were the confirmed cut concepts, probably because they were the most finished, true.
I'm sure the other cut content does exist, but maybe isn't as easy to point at. Additional dialogue, side missions, world map, cutscenes, even characters.
Some could have been withheld for repurposing in other fabula nova stuff(lol) and now just exists in the aether~~
>>533286142who let this normalfag in here with his moderate correct opinions
Let this shitty general die
>>533288115I like big kaiju battle
And accepting the truth was absolute cinema
>>533291158Based.
I have no notes, the game is mid but cool in parts and you have good taste.
>accept the truth, you are responsible for your brother's death
>except he isn't actually dead because we can't make our shitty self-insert protag feel too bad
Final Fantasy needs to be written by competent people again.
>>533284336You can try. The game is so bland and thereโs so little to the gameplay systems that there isnโt much to talk about.
forget it im leaving the general salty ass mofos
>>533284336Anabella should have been the main villain.
Final Fantasy XVII will be a horse racing simulator with cute anime girls.
>>533293353Quite a lot of XVI's problems is that the game is often unable to follow through its premises, both on a narrative and gameplay level. Clive facing his guilt is made irrelevant by Joshua surviving, the more realistic setting with focus on more grounded stakes is thrown aside for "punch God to fix everything" a third through the game, Clive taking the mantle of terrorist is never really taken seriously since the Empire pretty much destroys itself. I wonder how much is due to the team getting cold feet and how much is due to CBU3 being unable to structure actually dynamic stories. Post Dawntrail I'm starting to think it's 80% the latter / 20% the former.
>>533284336This general is contrarian so discussing 10/10 FFs like XVI here will be difficult.
>>533293616>>533298713The conversation already happened.
Why are you replying
>>533298713Funny coming from someone that also never actually discusses XVI.
This general always goes to shit at the same hour
>>533295132>Clive facing his guilt is made irrelevant by Joshua survivingExcept Clive faces his gilt and comes to terms with what he did to Joshua. It's after he's had this moment that he discovers Joshua is still alive.
>the more realistic setting with focus on more grounded stakes is thrown aside for "punch God to fix everything" a third through the gameReminder the Japanese use "God" for several symbolic purposes none of which are literally "lets kill God uwu". If all you took from the story was "kill god save the world" you have missed the entire point.
>Clive taking the mantle of terrorist is never really taken seriously since the Empire pretty much destroys itself.There's an entire section of the game where Clive and the hideout have to contend with the damage they are causes other nations and the larger world. Setting up networks to supply suffering areas from the effects of blowing up the crystals.
>I wonder how much is due to the team getting cold feetI think it has more to do with your just total lack of comprehending what was happening on the screen and being told to you by the game.
I'm enjoying my replay of FFTA but it's such a chore trying to keep up with the dispatch missions.
The pub is always full of missions that require items you won't have until 10+ hours later, or repeatable ones you've already done. You have to double check the list to make sure you're getting the actual new and relevant ones and that's IF they even show up, since you get a semi-random selection each month and some are exclusive to certain towns.
It would be so much better if they marked completed missions in the main list and separated "gathering" & "crafting" missions into a separate tab
>>533304216I like when they fail the dispatch missions they are filled with shame and rage
Love that game
>>533303787>Except Clive faces his gilt and comes to terms with what he did to JoshuaIt is irrelevant because he did not in fact kill him and both the characters stay on perfectly good terms with no long term consequences for either, hence why it lacks bite since it's not taken to its actually logical conclusion.
>Reminder the Japanese use "God" for several symbolic purposesIrrelevant because Ultima isn't symbolic and whatever cultural interpretation you take from him doesn't change how he interacts with the story. FFXVI is in fact a tale about punching God to fix everything.
>contend with the damage they are causes other nations and the larger worldThe only part where this remotely applies is the refugee line near Twinside, where the camp questline works the exact same as every other camp questline in the game with the exact same conclusion. After Twinside / Bahamut is Ultima starting Primogenesis which makes it irrelevant nonetheless, again throwing away the premise.
>I think it has more to do with your just total lack of comprehending what was happening on the screenI think I get it just fine and you're being needlessly emotional to the point it's starting to affect your English.
>>533306793>you're being needlessly emotional to the point it's starting to affect your EnglishKek
>>533304216That shit is wack and annoying I never track the dispatch missions, I just send it on whatever is new and within success level range. Bank the items and hope they are useful.
Mihoyo is going to make a better FFXV
>>533306793>It is irrelevant because he did not in fact kill himThis doenst change the fact that for the first Act Clive believes he did kill him and faces that guilt. Joshua not begin dead does not undo that growth.
>IrrelevantNo it's very relevant and just dismissing it doesn't change that. Try engaging with the material instead of just assuming you know everything there is to know.
>The only part where this remotely applies is the refugee line near TwinsideIt is literally the set up of the third act but ok.
Anon have you played this game?
>I think I get it just fineYou really don't.
> starting to affect your English.Only ESLs confuse typos for grammatical failures.
>>533311086>Only ESLs confuse typos for grammatical failuresNta but "gilt" is not a typo
Your discussion? Irrelevant.
My discussion? Objectively factual at all times.
>>533311086>This doenst change the fact that for the first Act Clive believes he did kill him and faces that guiltIf the entire impetus for Clive's quest (namely his quest for vengeance) turns out to be fake, then the game in fact does not commit to that impetus. L3 + R3 to accept the Truth simply doesn't hold to scrutiny as a climax because we know Joshua is relaxing a few villages away. Tidus' choice has weight because he and Zanarkand actually disappear. Cecil's doubts and redemption have weight because he actually commited atrocities. Clive facing his guilt has no weight because he, in truth, did nothing.
>No it's very relevant and just dismissing it doesn't change that.Whatever conveniently elusive cultural significance you wish to imply for Ultima does not (again) change how the character actually act within the dynamics of the story. Unless you can actually explain what interpretation directly contradict my point about Ultima throwing away the grounded politics for generic "beat bad guy to save the world", then you are simply not making an argument.
>It is literally the set up of the third act but ok.Actually, the setup for the third act is Primogenesis, which throws away any question or moral dilemma regarding Clive's actions and is why he spends the rest of the game beating up zombies.
Kneejerk dismissals are unsightly and you really need to stop being agitated.
>>533310953>someone is going to make something better than literal shitThe bar was pretty low bro even that Korean studio is making a better FFXV
>>533314709So so SO TRUEE!!
>>533314653> If the entire impetus for Clive's quest (namely his quest for vengeance) turns out to be fakeAnd that still doesnโt invalidate that for Clive through that entire growth segment believe it is real.
> Unless you can actually explain what interpretation directly contradict my point about Ultima throwing away the grounded politics for generic "beat bad guy to save the world", then you are simply not making an argument.The first two acts already covered the politics of the world. Crystals are sucking away the life of the planet. Remove them save the planet. The third act sets up the rationale behind the crystals usages.
Itโs capitalism Anon. You got two acts dedicated to correcting the problems of capitalist exploration and the third act is attacking the ideology itself. Iโm sorry your English teachers failed you but your lacking of media literacy does not make something โle badโ
> Actually, the setup for the third act is Primogenesis, which throws away any question or moral dilemma regarding Clive's actionsThe moral question of Cliveโs actions already got screen time. Again did you fucking play this game?
>>533311376Missing a U in guilt is a fucking typo retard
>>533320318>retard Yes you are
>>533320096>And that still doesnโt invalidate that for Clive through that entire growth segment believe it is real.It, in fact, does. I'm sorry, but thinking the very premise of the plot being negated isn't a big deal is simply ludicrous.
>The first two acts already covered the politics of the world.That's cute and all, but the initial argument was that XVI's plot-related problems stem from its unwillingness and/or unability to follow through its premises. Infodumps about Sanbreque's tax policy are nice, but it doesn't change that the politics end up ultimately irrelevant in the actual plot of the game, and "the scenario is not willing to understand its own stakes" is a perfectly reasonable criticism. Media literate people would also know better to call any system of exploitation capitalism in an attempt to look smart, but then again they would probably have better priority than games with shallow narratives like XVI.
>The moral question of Cliveโs actions already got screen time.The answer was that he is in fact completely justified and his "terrorism" is just virtuous heroism since the alternative is becoming a zombie, again a case of the game not willing to go through its dilemmas. For a person so convinced people with criticisms of XVI didn't play the game, I don't think you have a very good grasp on how the game is structured and how its acts thematically contradict each other.
>>533326318> It, in fact, does.No it literally does not. Nothing from the first act from Cliveโs character is suddenly undone because Cliveโs understanding of the situation changed. This is literally the plot of fucking nearly every story. Thing you thought was true is actually false. And never has this ever somehow undermined the character struggle of the narrative.
> doesn't change that the politics end up ultimately irrelevant in the actual plot of the gameThe political elements are the entire fucking focus of the second act. Anon your entire commentary is just โno thatโs not enoughโ and thatโs fine but it doesnโt remove what was presented.
> system of exploitation capitalism in an attempt to look smartHereโs a cheat sheet for your JRPG consumption so maybe next time you can actually follow what the story is trying to say
Alien = Foreigner
Space = The west
God = Capitalism
The Japanese do not give a shit about religion. They use it as a stand in for bitching about western corruption.
FFXVI is about a political system around magic crystals implanted by space aliens. IE a political and economic system imported by western powers which in the context of modern Japan is literally capitalism. The Japanese have been writing the same story about the economic collapse in the 80s for five fucking decades now.
>The answer was that he is in fact completely justified and his "terrorism" is just virtuous heroism since the alternative is becoming a zombieThank you for conceding that Cliveโs moral quandary is in fact explored and answered.
>all those walls of text written with chatgpt
He really doesn't have anything better to do huh?
Final Fantasy tomorrow
But which one?
If you didn't hold this bad boy in your hands
and feel the sheer thrill of the DualShock 2 rumble pulsing in your palms...
did you really beat the game?
>>532842979 (OP)anyone know how much this box is worth and what's the name?
>Joshua not begin dead does not undo that growth.
Kek at the guy falling for the reddit le character development meme. Porn addict IQ.
>>533329882>Nothing from the first act from Cliveโs character is suddenly undone because Cliveโs understanding of the situation changed.It does in fact undoes things because it turns out his struggle was completely irrelevant which in turns lessens its emotional impact, and why it makes XVI less interesting on a replay since you know Act 1 is both irrelevant and disconnected from the rest of the game.
>The political elements are the entire fucking focus of the second act.Also false. Most of the second act is spent dealing with Hugo, whose questline has no political aspect to it. Neither does the Iron Kingdom, and the imperial civil war ends right after it starts since Dion gets mindraped by Ultima. Most of the political focus gets thrown away by the end of Act 1.
>Anon your entire commentary is just โno thatโs not enoughโMy commentary is that the game doesn't follow on what it settles and your argument is that I'm wrong because it doesn't follow what it settles but it's open about it.
But for the important part.
>The Japanese do not give a shit about religion.Once again, irrelevant. Ultima can be an allegory about whatever Maehiro wishes from western corruption to unchecked technology worship, and it wouldn't change how he's actually written as a character and how he interacts with the plot, ie an almighty evil God who is responsible for everything wrong in the game's story, does so by completely bypassing the established actors, and needs to be punched in the face to save the world. You tiptoe around this by trying to focus on its symbolism, but it simply isn't working.
>Thank you for conceding that Cliveโs moral quandary is in fact explored and answered.I'm glad you agree that there was in the end no moral quandary at all, making the premise of a quandary moot, which was the entire initial argument.
FFXVI is a game about punching God (The West etc.) to save the world. You just think it's a good thing (that's fine), but most people understandably didn't.
>>533336434True Final Fantasy is rightwing-coded btw. Continuity across time. Unity through change. The living tradition. Looking to those who walked before to lead those who walk after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lJsmCqvCI
>>533336859Based as fuck, and true.
>when you realize that XIII is just a copy of X but executed really badly, with a shitty story and unlikeable characters
>>533337736>realizeso way back in 2010 lol
>>533338473Some still haven't realized.
>>533336859>Rebelling against the church >Rebelling against empires >Following pagan traditions of olde (religious freedoms) >Ideals of free borders and charity to the needy Nigga, where
>>533336434> It does in fact undoes things because it turns out his struggle was completely irrelevantExcept it was a massive part of who he was and his own personal struggle that he only overcomes once he accepts the truth of the matter. Clive literally cannot be who he becomes without disproving what he thought was true.
>HugoA massive political obstical in the world. Yes Anon thank you again for making my point.
> My commentary is that the game doesn't follow on what it settles You have twice now conceded that the game does in fact follow on what it settles. Your problem is you donโt like or understand how it settled.
> needs to be punched in the face to save the world.You understand that in battle genre mediums like video games a fight scene is traditionally a metaphor for competing philosophies yes? You arenโt so media illiterate that you believe all these stories are saying is โpunch your problem awayโ right?
> FFXVI is a game about punching God (The West etc.) to save the world. You just think it's a good thing (that's fine), but most people understandably didn't.It is a game about fighting back against western intrusion and corruption. Iโm sorry you didnโt understand that
PS quote me where I have ever said anything in this game was โgoodโ.
>>533337736There's no crystallized lesbians in X
At least I don't think any of the fayth are lesbians explicitly
>>533339412So XIII is also woke...
Not the win you think it is lil bro
>>533339785I wasn't really saying it was good or bad, just an observation.
Also I'm an only child, quite old as well.
>>533339365>It was a massive part of who he wasYou are stuck on repeat. If a massive part of his character is in fact completely dismissed with no actual consequences whatsoever, then yes the narrative doesn't take . Cecil's redemption would be hollow if it turned out he killed no one as a Knight of Baron, Yuna's tearful goodbye would mean nothing if they found a week later that Dream Zanarkand and Tidus were just moved a few kilometers anyway.
>A massive political obstical in the world.I'm starting to think a large obstacle of this conversation is that you don't know what political actually means, which is why you think Hugo vs Clive is political (it isn't).
>You have twice now conceded that the game does in fact follow on what it settlesSaying "actually the premise doesn't actually exist" (something you yourself admitted XVI does) is not, in fact, following on the premise but rather the opposite. I'm not sure what your point even is since we seem to agree that XVI has no continuity between its thematics and you just think it's a positive rather than a negative.
>You understand that in battle genre mediums like video games a fight scene is traditionally a metaphor for competing philosophies yes?You're trying yet again to shift the topic to symbolism and you're very obvious about the fact that you don't have an answer to the original argument about Ultima hijacking the story's dynamics. XVI *is* in fact a story about punching your problems away (when it shouldn't be) because the supposed ideological struggle you're flaunting is solved by punching it away, and Clive can only prove Ultima wrong (prove what, anyway? Turning people into zombies is bad?) by punching him. You could try your best to explain Clive is an allegory about the struggles of post-WW2 Japan against American Hegemony and it wouldn't change anything about this.
At the very least, we seem to agree XVI's plot is overall pretty bad so I'm happy we have common grounds for conversation.
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>>533339365>It is a game about fighting back against western intrusion and corruption.lmao
How upset would you be if they made a numbered entry a gacha?
>>533339318>Rebelling against the churchThe only other mainline FF you could argue does this is X and even then you are literally working with the Fayth they worship every step of the way so as to purify the organization from the literal zombies that have taken a hold of it. You are restoring the faith, not destroying it. XIII has religious aesthetics for the state organization in Cocoon but not actual religious authorities.
>Rebelling against empiresYes because it's a celebration of western liberal ethics over those of Imperial Japan specifically.
>Following pagan traditions of olde (religious freedoms)Freedom of religion is very much a rightwing thing.
>Ideals of free borders and charity to the needyFF has never parroted the Marxist abolition of nations (despite Maehiro and Matsuno holding very explicitly Marxist views of history) and neither is the latter a leftwing thing. People who practice Christianity donate more to charity than any other demographic.
Any piece of media that tries to convey the reality of that which remains true and steadfast even across radical change (like a lot of good Japanese media does, as a product of their constantly uncertain cultural context in the past 1.5 centuries) will inevitably also end up being 'rightwing'. This is due to the fact that leftwingers are incapable of conceiving art as anything but a means for propaganda, while good artists are concerned first and foremost with making good art that conveys beauty by itself and for its own sake.
>>533348637You pick and choose what right wing means to fit your narrative
You're wrong and I accept your concession
>>533350650No one played it so that's fine
>global version EOS
>jp version releases TWO summer cuties
I feel cucked
>>533351525Not final fantasy
Congratulations to VII, X, and Chrono Trigger, the three most beloved Final Fantasy games.
>>533337736Just finished FFX for the first time.
10/10 Final Fantasy.
>>533355415Based dragon quest appreciators
>>533355415https://automaton-media.com/en/news/new-top-100-ranking-of-japanese-peoples-favorite-games-dominated-by-domestic-classics-like-mario-and-pokemon-except-for-the-number-one-spot/
>eight final fantasy games made the top 100>XIII, XV, and XVI did not>even when several other newer games like pokemon SV and elden ring did No wonder this series is flailing.
>>533355974>>533356086It's true. I was impressed.
>>533355415Chrono Trigger is the best Final Fantasy game.
/five Final Fantasy games/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>533281959Not yet, sadly.
>>533288115>6/10>moderateAnd I thought 7/10-ish was too far
Posting heroines from my 14 year old iMac that I dusted off and got updated from out of the closet today. It runs as snappy as it ever has
It reminds me of the fragrant heroines of Final Fantasy XIII who have also aged so phenomenally well....
>>533329882Nta but if XVI is a story about capitalism, as a whole it is even dumber than I thought.
Lot of filtered posts, is the fatherless criny again?
>>533367737No....it's okay at least. There's some decent things about it
>>533368420Someone didn't shit on XVI on sight, so he's crying.
>>533368658They also came up with a new filter for the sephiroth pic that hasn't been posted in months.
>>533368803Scratch that someone has been using it in my absence.
>>533367368>>533367539The heroine, Vanille, is my favourite girl in the entire gaming.
The video game, Final Fantasy XIII, is my favourite Final Fantasy game in the entire series.
>>533369070I'll draw her hugging a sheep.
>>533369070I love Vanille, but I love Lightning even more.
>>533370767Me too. I love Vanille, but I love รclair even more.
Yet...I love รclair, but I love Vanille even more.
It's a paradox.
>>533336859This idea of continuity was beautifully represented in the best ending of FFV. It is no coincidence that the heroes end their journey at the Guardian Tree: Krile visited the tree on the anniversary of Galuf's death and laid flowers at its roots to honor him. This becomes a symbol of the end of their current journey and the beginning of a new one.
Weirdest meltdown I ever saw. But the fatherless just slipped up and confirmed he is also the vanille shitposter.
>>533372305based stalker-kun
>>533372219I'm glad you're back, bud
/ffg/ is not the same without you
>>533372305The thing is, anon, that I'm melting every day. Every fucking day!!! Damn. But the reason for that? The reason... is that... the Mother forsaken me, no, forsaken us all...
>>533372962Remember friend, wherever we are, the fragrance must never end.
Thank god ffg finally had an official filter list. It makes these horrible threads less horrible
>>533368420He's so retarded he thinks changing the filenames like these ones
>>533369070>>533372219 will bypass the filter (he's wrong lmao)
It also just proves that he's scared and mad that people are finally hiding his spam
Jesus this is so funny :D
>>533373889>>533374269Heroine meltdown.....engage.
>>533373927What will you talk about now that you're using the filters?
>>533373889So at the end of the day Final Fantasy XIII is a story about us. Fuck
>>533374080I still don't get him. He posts in the most obnoxious way possible, and then get offended when people get tired of his autistic ass.
It's like that
>hurr durr hey guise i'm stupid lmao>fuck off retard>joke's on them i-i-i-i was only pretending to be retarded
Also about the socio-political interpretation of XVI: I'll be honest, I just think that this interpretation can be abstracted and cleared of details related to economics and politics. I would highlight 3-4 layers of interpretation of the story of XVI:
1) Socio-political commentary. Include here your reasoning about capitalism, the opposition of horizontal and vertical social systems in the style of Hideaway vs any system of subjugation, environmentalism, and so on, whatever the fuck you want.
2) The pedagogical-moral layer, making the whole story like a modern bildungsroman, the story about coming of age.
3) The metaphysical layer, telling about the dynamics of categories of will and pure reason.
4) The layer of crossroads between reflexive, meta-prose-like writing about Final Fantasy AND writing about the fundamental nature fantasy per se. As has happened many times in Final Fantasy, this crossroads writing tells about the meaning and purpose of fantasy in general and about fantasy as a literary genre (hence also about Final Fantasy as a series) in particular.
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All I read is
>i have a small peepee and self-esteem issues so I'm insecure
(Couple of thoughts about layer 2) Immense sources of power (Mothercrystals) grant people instant prosperity, but eventually these advantages prevent them from growing up and breaking free of their mother's apron strings. The reason is that any magic in the game is a form of rapid fantasy-to-reality transformation, where fantasy and reality are not mediated by any human labor, by really any effort. This immense power also (or thus?) creates a desire to use it to subjugate others. Eventually, the strongest of these immature men-children become slave owners, enslave vast numbers of people, depriving them of their freedom, but in doing so they themselves become slaves to their own or any other's power, as demonstrated repeatedly in the story with the examples of Benedicta and Kupka etc. The slave owner eventually becomes a slave. The alternative to this regression are horizontal social structures like the Hideaway, where everyone is free and lives on their own terms. According to the writers, horizontal structures are stronger, better, and more durable than any structure of forced submission or any other structure, even a structure of complete unity and wholeness in which the parts are indistinguishable. This latter type of connection is presented in the final version of Ultima - Ultimalius. In a structure like the Hideaway tho, a person learns to take responsibility for their actions, to live responsibly, independently and not relying on instant "mother's" help (MOTHERcrystals, magick in general). In this sense layer 1 (socio-political) connects to the layer 2 (moral) of the story. Not a coincidence that the horizontal connection of consciousnesses - in other words, the power of friendship - is also a virtue that can break the vicious circle of subjugation. Consciousnesses of MCs in the story are connected, but 1) do not dissolve in each other (as in the case of Ultimalius) and 2) do not generate hierarchies of subjigation.
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>>533379396What should we talk about now that we've filtered them?
(Couple of thoughts about layer 2, cont)
In the most abstract terms, ignoring such specific interpretations as dependence on fossil fuels/nuclear energy and other socio-political readings, XVI can be consistently interpreted as a coming-of-age story. The story of how one day you have to leave the place under your mother's skirt, and ultimately the story of how life outside your mother's skirt will never be easy and will bring many difficulties, but it is the only way to avoid becoming a pampered slave of instant gratification.
3/?
>>533381163and I have Vanille on my side
(Couple of thoughts about layer 3) I would read the story of XVI with a high degree of confidence as a story of the dynamics of pure reason and will. Of course, in this matter the writers chose voluntarism as the winner. Just as Clive represents the pure will, thirsty for life, overcoming barriers and stubborn with unreasonable resistance, so Ultima represents the pure and cold mind, thinking only of a New Age of Reasoning. Unifying, purifying and erasing all differences (which is particularly well emphasized in Ultima's final image - Ultimalius: a collective of beings united in one body so that all differences are erased, and these beings themselves individually are indistinguishable from one another also), and in its natural desire to elevate and seclude itself in an ivory tower above everything, in its own striving for totality and ideal (the world of Ultima is his ultimate, his FINAL FANTASY) the mind becomes tyrannical in the cold light of its own lonely reflections. This aspect of the mind/pure reason has been discussed in world culture, but I'm not gonna stop on that.
I will also briefly note that in the course of the story, Clive's dynamic is a bottom-up dynamic - the dynamic of will ascending to reason and becoming self-aware. The Mythos/Logos distinction is tied to this ascent from a state of blind religious piety and belief in myths / fairy tales to something conscious. Although this dynamic is poorly realized in Clive, it is, so to speak, outlined in his story. Ultima's dynamic for the realization of his plan, in turn, is top-down. This is the descent of pure reason to the attainment of will. It is for this reason that Ultimalius - the full form of Ultina - in the final battle begins to express visible emotions during the fight with Clive. He's really starting to get angry, mind you.
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So does Stranger of Paradise retcon Dissidia?
>>533381220Let's talk about how Pixel Remaster cucked me out of cannonneers.
(Couple of thoughts about layer 4) The book scene at the end lends itself to being interpreted as the scene most closely related to the writers' meta-commentary on the FF series in particular and the nature and meaning of fantasy in general. A fantasy story lying on a table in an ordinary world devoid of the mythical/sacred/magical is a relic of an old mythical time, a reminder of the world from which the new world these children and their mother live in came from. The book adds the nuance that the story of XVI does not fully follow the narrative of total secularisation, that after Clive's feat, despite the absence of magic in the hypostasized sense, there is still room for magical ways of thinking, fantasy and imagination (hence the title of the book and the children playing eikons).
Clive, as a chronicler of his own world, by collecting into his compendium the images (eikons) and stories of various great and ordinary people, ultimately leaves as a heritage this piece of "magic" in the form of a fantastic story to the new secular world, thus reinterpreting the very concept of "magic" from hypostasized one -- magic as fireballs -- to a more allegorical -- magic as a fantasy story, as something that exists in the domain of imagination.
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>>533381880Weren't cannoneers post-game anyway? What's even the point?
What is the pajeet blogging about now? All I see are a bunch of filtered posts.
Give it to me straight my friends, is it good for someone like me who enjoyed FF7 original and remake-rebirth, FF15, FF14, FF6, FF9? I like both action games and rpgs.
>>533382484its hardly an RPG and not a very good action game.
Unless you're a huge fan of XIV's writing style, don't expect a good time.
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(Couple of thoughts about layer 4, cont) The nature and meaning of fantasy per se in the story is that magic in the world of XVI, in a sense, nullifies the value of human personal efforts in their deeds because it is a direct manifestation of one's imagination (this is an apt description of magic from ATL). The manual labor shown by the children in the scene after the credits, as well as their ability to still fantasize creatively under the inspiration of the "Final Fantasy" book, is seen in the story as a better alternative because it does not diminish the value of an individual's own effort to realize fantasy. In other words, magic in XVI is a wish-fulfiller that gives birth to laziness (Joshua's fat bird metaphor), inability to be autonomous (always under the MOTHERcrystal's skirt) and really introspective of value of your and others' actions, while manual human labor is a more harmonious way of bringing fantasy to reality, since it engages human effort and allows for understanding on the value of that effort.
This contains, on the one hand, the position of the authors on the meaning of fantasy as such, and on the other hand, the position on the nature of the fantasy genre. Fantasy as a genre is not about fireballs. Fantasy as a genre is not about cool swords, Shiva's ASS, fiery summons. Fantasy in itself is not a place where it is worth staying forever, it is not an act to which you need to devote your entire life. Finally, fantasy should not be directly transformed into reality. Fantasy is what encourages real work and effort without a guidance, encourages transformation of reality, despite pain, suffering and possible displeasure. In this thought, all the above-mentioned layers of the XVI story are especially clearly visible.
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>>533382298Blogging about Final Fantasy.
>>533382484It's a fun game, but not really a roleplaying game. You have limited agenda, it's more "play Clive's story" instead of "play your self-insert story".
So it's just like VIIR, really.
What drives the people who come here to say nothing other than "I see filtered posts, someone tell me what has been filtered"
I don't understand them
>>533383413You roleplay as Clive. It's a JRPG.
>>533382298You struck a nerve, he's angry about you now.
>No Triangle Strategy 2
Vanilleover....
Is FF just not big?
How did they not get a dedicated spot in the Nintendo direct over Octopath?
They relegated Tactics to a sizzle reel
>>533388159Because Tactic is a remake.
>>533384386You role play as Mario, therefore Mario Odyssey is an RPG.
Is FFVI a good game to start with? Or does it build off previous games hard?
>>533390296I don't think any game builds off the previous ones in particular, so just start with whichever you like?
>>533390379Alright, thanks. Is the sound+color patched GBA version still the recommended version or is the โuncensoredโ SNES retranslation considered better?
>>533390697For VI? I think it's the SNES retranslation, since I'm not aware of anything the GBA version is.
Emphasis on "not aware", there might be stuff added to it that I don't know about, but to my knowledge, it's mostly IV and V that have new stuff on GBA.
>>533391054From what Iโve gathered the GBA version has a post-game dungeon which isnโt really a dealbreaker for me, I just wanted to know whether either of them still have any mistranslations/other issues
>>533389696Yes. Paper Mario is an RPG. If you want to self insert go play Skyrim.
>>533391905The original releases of the FF games always have horrendous translation, so if it's an issue, get either the GBA or the Pixel Remaster one.
>>533390296I'd start with IV. It's not as archaic as I-III, and it'd be hard to go back to it afterwards.
>>533383413>You have limited agenda, it's more "play Clive's story" instead of "play your self-insert story".This applies to 90% of the series, thoughever.
>>533393757Exactly. But somehow it's okay when VIIR does it, but not when XVI does it.
>>533394880Most of the complaints I've heard about XVI is that it's a dumbed down ARPG with worse combat than SOP.
>>533395710Be patient, the yoshicultist still doesn't understand why people don't like XVI.
>>533395710Take a good look at
>>533396095. This is the person complaining about XVI.
Do you really think you can trust these... "people"?
>>533397217More than I'd trust you honestly.
>>533374521I can confront any powerful enemy if I'm with Lightning, the strongest heroine...
>>533400590>he said this in 2018So what are the chances that he still thinks about her every day?
>>533392068Nta but Paper Mario is not Mario Odyssey???
That anon was wrong for saying xvi isn't an RPG because of its story. It's not an RPG because of its gameplay.
Just like Mario Odyssey is not an RPG and paper Mario ttyd is one. This all seems like common sense
>>533398557Oh, so you're just another sockpuppet of the one without father.
>>533382484>is it good for someone like me who enjoyed FF7 original and remake-rebirth, FF15, FF14, FF6, FF9?Yes. And contrary to the opinion of salty niggers of the thread, it is an RPG.
>>533402793You struck a nerve.
>>533395710That's pretty much true to a tee.
It's not an unplayable broken shit mess like some might say, it's just not a regular jrpg at all, and it's not particularly good at being an action game.
SoP had the huge benefit of being developed by a studio that made action games.
Xvi was made by MMO devs who had never made any single player game, and it feels like it was made by MMO devs in a bad way very often.
In an effort to make peace with the warring factions of rabid weirdos itt, I'd like to say that xvi does have redeeming traits. Some of the characters are cool (Cid and Hugo), the voice acting was great, and everyone loves a big Kaiju fight.
>>533395710They would be correct. The game is pure empty spectacle.
>"We asked Itahana to draw the patch art for 7.3, which also includes this theme. Incidentally, there have been a lot of developments within the company, and Itahana is now working in Creative Studio 3 (CS3)."
>"Itahana was originally a Hika-sen, so he'd always said, "I'll draw for you anytime," but there were a lot of procedures that needed to be done when crossing departments... But now that he's in CS3, it's become much easier to ask him for help (laughs)."
>"This time, he first drew three or four rough drafts, then adjusted the character placement and orientation based on the intent of the scenario, and finally created the current patch art, which I think turned out really well. Itahana was also in charge of the design of Sphene itself. It's likely that we'll see more patch art drawn by Itahana in the future, not just for Sphene or this one."
>>533383848They seek attention but are too socially stunted to try and engage with any discussion even through anonymous message boards.
>>533409326Too insecure to talk about the games they like? Very sad
>about to reach the temple in Rebirth
>go back and start collecting summons which i haven't done a single one
I like all Final Fantasies (except fifteen (which isn't a Final Fantasy)).
Square is still doing updates for older Switch games but not FF
DQ3 just got updated today for free and so did Romancing Saga
>>533414910I fail to see the issue, obviously Square would focus on its actually important series.
>>533414910Not Final Fantasy games
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After beating 9 and letting it digest a little bit, I think I liked the game more then I initially thought, I liked the entire cast and I think Zidane is my favorite protag in the series, before Cecil was my favorite since 4 was my first experience with FF and I'm a sucker for the whole redemption shit, but Its hard to explain why I like Zidane so much other than "he's a good character"
While I had a few issues with 9 I think I might go back and do another playthrough sooner then expected and fully explore everything
>>533408172That's because Nintendo poached CS3's best artist to direct Donkey Kong.
>>533420994>this was CS3's best artistgrim.
>>533401006Toriyama??? Dude, I think about her every day!
Toriyama must think about her every hour.
I think the question you should be asking is....does Tetsuya Nomura still think about her?
>>533382267>What's even the point?There isn't one. Outside of throwing his Lightning-based tantrum every day, he doesn't know what to do with his emotions.
>>533380886>>533381189>>533381324>>533381724>533382146>533383241FINALLY, some FUCKING FANTASY.
>Fantasy is what encourages real work and effort without a guidance, encourages transformation of reality, despite pain, suffering and possible displeasureNice work, bro. Great stuff, truly. You really do understand FF. Good screenshots too that tie together all the different points that you make. You're a talented writer and thinker! You are far and away the very best poster in all of /ffg/. Have a Vanille. Have two. Your posts are the reason I come here, after all.
>>533280590>Lightning Returns stagger was proto-Ff7r staggerYeah, I acknowledged that when I said that they were heading in that direction with LR. I'm just not a fan of stagger becoming a mandatory phase in every boss fight where the enemy keels over for a few seconds and lets you dump damage on them consequence-free.
Meanwhile in XIII and -2, most enemies can still fight back when staggered. You can essentially stunlock them via launching and juggling, but that's something the player has to actively do to maintain their advantage. The stagger system in XIII and -2 is also connected to the damage multiplier system, which is in place to reward players for being more circumventing an enemy's defenses to apply consistent DPS.
I still enjoy VIIR and VIIRb. Scanning enemies and figuring out how best to exploit their weaknesses is fun. The stagger system in those games just feels a bit half-assed and lacking in meaningful decision-making. The game might as well just take a chunk off their healthbar when the stagger bar fills, or a slightly bigger chunk if Tifa's in the party.
>/ffg/ is still just oneguy talking to himself while stroking off XIII and shitting on XVI
Grim. We've been in this arc of /ffg/ for like an entire year now.
>>533402057Our apologies, the cultists here are not very intelligent with the things they type. They will say literally anything, as long as it defends the FF game they champion.
>The stagger system in those games just feels a bit half-assed and lacking in meaningful decision-makingI'm gonna agree. I wish it had FFXIII style juggles or 999% damage multiplier that you could work up to. FFXIII made Stagger feel like a mechanic that is truly required to succeed.
Here's my suggestion on how to improve Stagger: Finishers. Like SOP or any other great action game, there should be a finishing move with a button prompt that you can initiate to immediately kill a mob that's been staggered. A perfect way to do this for an RPG is to design finishers for every party member, and then when you activate the finisher, it will grab one of your party members. So it's not just Cloud smashing and grabbing, but Barret, Tifa, Yuffie, Red, etc. This would make combat faster and more satisfying whenever you land that Stagger, rewarding you with an instant kill if the enemy health is low enough.
Like you mentioned too, there should be some sort of juggling! There are ways to bring enemies up into the air and keep them there, but making Staggered enemies juggle-able instead of laying down on the ground for you to wack would instantly improve that Stagger state. Considering how you can even literally Launch some enemies using some specific skills, it would be a pretty easy change. If I could knock them up into the air after Stagger and then smash them down again or finish them off with a finisher, that would make interacting with the Stagger phase literally 3X as interesting, being open to more player expression
Instead of just wacking dude with whatever strongest ability you have, you might input a quick button prompt sequence (think Bushido moves) to do a cool kill animation that instantly defeats them.
>>533428491Vanille kun didn't shit on XVI. I didn't either, cultist.
>>533428850woops meant to reply to you
>>533427562
>>533428491Its only been a couple months of you obsessing over XIII, before that it was rebirth and before that it was barry.
As long as you don't admit yoshida is a hack, you'll move onto some other target. Maybe kingdom hearts or dragon quest.
>he replied to be my melting down
>twice
>>533382484If you're interested in it, then get it. But just know, you're not buying an RPG. Plain and simple. It's a very long, cinematic action game. There is no party building, there is no roleplaying. Final Fantasy "items" are basically non-existent. Exploration is in-organic. All the FF RPG elements have been completely sanded away. There are no damage types or elements or statuses. There is literally nothing else to the game but 40 hours of wacking/dodging/cooldown dump, interspersed with 20 hours of some very nice cutscenes and boss fight setpieces.
7/10 ish.
>>533429423You've done it now, he failed to reply to you and failed to post Final Fantasy while crying about imaginary thread enemies. A triple whammy.
>>533382484It's 10/10 peak high fantasy kino
when i played on launch: had to drop my wife aerith in ff7 rebirth normal difficulty.
Now i am going to play it on hard with her after learning how to use her
The 39/40 Final Fantasy XIII?
Worth revisiting.
>>533431247You are a moron. Shes OP.
I think the current state of /ffg/ is a result of Detective Joe (Jr) desperately trying to create a new pointless case to obsess over after the last one fell apart.
>>533431389FFXII - The perfect Final Fantasy,
received a 40/40 score from Famitsu btw.
>>533420994Thatโs actually not true, same name but not the same guy
However the guy who did direct DK worked on XV
>>533431738You don't say? Pretty cool.
>>533431903XIII-2 is good because they fixed everything that was shit about XIII,
and Serah, Noel and Caius are all likeable.
Too bad that all went downhill again with LR.
Likely just cope but the Octopath director isnโt involved with Octo 0 or that action RPG
Some people are trying to theorize a FF6 remake or Chrono Trigger
A very few people claim that itโs Live A Live 2, since the director of that remake said if the remake sells 1 million on PS4/5/PC theyโll be able to make a sequel but obviously it didnโt.
>>533431617Detective Joe is gone, Jim. That saga has long passed us by. You have to suffer something a lot less interesting now. The current oneguy endlessly shitposts about nerves getting struck, people not having fathers, and how much he hates Lightning.
>>533431617Astute observation. Perhaps he should work more on his undercover skillset.
>>533432407He's been credited in the DQ remakes so he's probably been busy with that until now.
>>533432162>XIII-2 is goodGlad we agree
>>533431738we need to return to Ivalice
Old, tired and brown setting? Again? Gross. Sorry.
How about we return to a fragrant setting again? Something that isn't just dark, grim and boring?
>>533432548From what I can tell heโs just support, the Dragon Quest remakes are being handled by another studio on the outside of SE, heโs basically there to make sure they follow the HD-2D guidelines
>>533433394Why do you want the same setting again for the 5th time
Do you love furries that much
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>>533432767Based and
>>533431738Based
Ivalice chads are the only posters worth a shit here tbqh
>>533432154Personally? 16/10
>>533433473>said the VII compilation slurper without the slightest hint of self-awareness
>>533433731Maybe on planet down syndrome
>>533432431I only wish I knew what set him off and what he's actually fighting, but then again, that was always the mystery with the "J" case too. So we'll probably never find out.
>>533432443This pic always made me laugh.
>>533433473>Why do you want the same setting again for the 5th timeCareful, let's not accidently upset any compilation fans.
Uh oh, someone is getting upset about Final Fantasy again
>>533433537That one its already in the filterlist
Dont forget to report and ignore avatarfags
>>533433743>VII anger/jealousy out of nowhereHow revealing
>>533431738>>533433690Ivalice bros are already winning this year. Hopefully we keep that momentum going and Kitase retires asap so we can get even more high fantasy kino.
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>>533434172>high fantasy kinoI would enjoy that very much
Fantasy races should come back
>>533433812Congratulations. Hes seething and shitting his pants across multiple phones
>>533434420Square Enix announced TWO HD 2D games
Tactics Remaster on Switch 2 (we already knew)
No new FF announcement
>>533434420FF4 3D for switch 2
isn't happening but should, everyone should play that version imo
FFXVI is a 3/10 game. The worst mainline entry in the series.
>>533434420FFT got a new trailer on it
Itโs kinda funny that the Sony trailer focused on showing VA from XVI actors but the Switch trailer showed a clip with a Xenoblade actor
Otherwise they focused on Japanese games and weirdly announced more in the Japanese direct
>>533434609Personally? 8/5
>>533434609I disagree. 7/10 ish. Take it or leave it. This is in fact the consensus. There's lots to like, and there's plenty to dislike.
It feels great not having Aspergers like the Lightning cuck kek
>>533434609It's is a FIRM 6/10 and I have written multiple irrefutable essays with mla citation formatting to prove it
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>>533434762Actually, the consensus for FFXVI is 8.5-9/10.
You may not like it but that's the truth.
>>533435080It should have been marketed as a non numbered entry
>>533435080XVI is in the exact same bin as FFXIII, FFXV and VII Rebirth are actually. Critically praised sure, but often panned by general audiences and hardcore fans alike. Middling. Some really love it, some really hate it. Most don't seem to care. FF as a franchise is 7/10 ish overall to the general public, and has been since X I'm afraid. This is the harsh reality of our series
>>533435006Okay post them
Unless you're too scared of oneguy
>>533434609Worst? Naaaaaaah
Middle of the road? Definitely.
Greatest ever or top 5? Lmao no.
>>533435931I fear no schizo
However I will not be sharing my multiple irrefutable theses out of respect for the feeble minds of the anons itt.
They cannot handle absolute truth of such magnitude.
Thank you for understanding.
>>533435080>>533435747Actually, the reality of user scores is very easy to look at as well. https://www.metacritic.com/
Rebirth and XVI were both quite well regarded. Yours is a fantasy not based on reality.
>>533435405 >deletedkeeeeek
Castlevaniafinalfantasychronotriggerasanokino already saving Final Fantasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zycj_tJgo
>>533435405>banned in a mere 4 minutes>from the /vg/ thread with zero moderation>for calling attention to an active shitposter, whose previous persona was rumored to be a janny, thus his imperviousness to the rulesLooks like the detective is back in the office, bros
Schizoanon coping malding seething once more.
>>533436539Nah, I actually don't understand. Vanille kun laid out a brand new 4 part essay this morning detailing 4 distinct layers of FFXVI theme interpretation. I've written about XVI literally a hundred times. C'mon mate, let's see what you got!
>>533436664>Blind devotion"A bold stand, but a misguided one. In so taking it, you have but proven our point. That this land is in desperate need of cleansing."
Something like that. My favorite quote in XVI.
You're inside your FF bubble. These games are indeed 7/10 ish.
Even my "precious" FFXIII. It's 7/10 ish at best to most. XIII-2, LR? Very divisive.
Look at the Steam reviews for modern FF and see how close the scores all are to each other. Almost all hovering in the 70s. Whether it's VII Rebirth or XVI or XIII or SoP. Look at how much criticism VII Rebirth receives every day for being "Ubisoft", or "padded". Look at how much criticism XVI receives every day for the "tired gameplay" and being "forgettable". SoP was basically an indie game, nobody even knows it exists. Look what's happened to XIV, the golden pony. Nobody has to discuss what all happened with XV either, do we
I love this series, I buy these games and enjoy almost all of them. I rate them very highly personally. But I will never ever deny that this shit is just not for everyone. Commercially and critically, the franchise exists on very shaky ground and for a long time now. Game after game, FF is always trying to break in to the greater market, achieving only through various degrees of failure.
>>533438292>bannedLikely wasn't banned
>no moderationSeems like someone is at their desk today. Multiple posts are deleted
>previous personaAnd there it is. You've been spamming that conspiracy of yours for like a year straight
You'd think that if you believed something so strongly, you'd have a single piece of evidence to present the thread.
But when I ask you to show it to me.....nothing. For a year now. But here's the really weird thing...
If I was secretly the janny and was "impervious to rules"....than how can I be the guy in the deleted image, that you just replied to?
How can both of those things be true, in your mind? I'm fascinated to see what you reply, and if it contains a single syllable of substance.
>>533440204Why are you ban evading?
*bans aren't permanent unless stated.*
>>533441138>substance-less replyOkay goal post mover schizo. Why do you think I'm ban evading?
If I was banned, then why do you believe I'm the janny?
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>>533440204Like all good detectives, he only asks questions, he doesn't answer them. Especially when the questions prove he's a retard.
>>533441542Yeah.....if only he would update his case notes.
It's like Groundhog Day Detective. Every day, he wakes up, checks the same notes, and goes to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4r4982ev4
We are getting this versus Jenova synthesis, right? let vincent and Cid join
Where did the shitposters go all of a sudden
I thought the thread was about to get interesting
>>533441542Like detectives? Nah, more like the $cientology Church.
Never answer questions, only answer with more questions.
>>533444859>interestingYou are not good
>>533445037He is not interesting either.
So you simply fled in terror then
>>533446490You are also bad
>>533446490and an ugly shit in the streets motherfucker
Oh yeah, the heroine meltdown is under way
Why you gotta be like that
Just be chill, don't gleefully antagonize mentally ill people.
If just makes you look like you're their equal.
>>533446490And a loser who evades his bans.
I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even more
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>>533449010he WILL get his smoke and spear in rocket town
>>533451152Ay it's my nigga Cid
And a bunch of faggot ass bum losers bumming rides
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what am i in for, i know almost next to nothing about this game except that the combat looks like some jank a realm reborn
>>533453461It's really not at all like arr.
Standard jrpg menu action selection at first, then as the game opens up and as exploration gets longer (it's a huge exploration-based environment-rich game ) you start relying on the gambit system.
Just enjoy the world, it's peak high fantasy imo.
>>533451152I agree. It's going to be used as a storytelling element.
>>533454341is there an issue with certain resolutions or something because the cutscenes have a giant black bar on the bottom of the screen
>>533455089BOWOWOW BOWOWOW
>>533455425you need a mod.
>>533457063That's what FFXII looks like.
>>533455693but i'm so tired of doing sidequest and shit
i just stopped before going into the temple before game told me "you wont be able to come back"
i love curly hair bitches.at least this one is normal not like the shit copy-pasted every 5 yards
>>533457389I loved Naomi. Hojo's girls were peak
>>533455425i also cant tell if im just going fucking crazy or my settings are off, but is the audio in this game like super crunchy or like has compression issues, because it sounds like everyones mics were recording with max gain or some shit, it just sounds like my headset is on full blast
>>533457389white girls are the best
>>533457908I prefer yellow
But it seems you can't really miss when it comes to FF girls
>>533457389Naomi is hot. The problem isn't even the inclusion of black people, but the obviously outsourced copypasted black people everywhere that brings the aesthetic of the game down.
Shit. even Barret's wife was gorgeous, and she was black as well. Unique character models that actually have some attention put into them look fine.
Is XVI getting a port for the Switch 2?
>>533457908For me, its latinas.
>>533458780Shouts out to Regina too
A little weird looking and a bit forced, but otherwise pretty cute
>>533459013Priscilla is perfection
>>533458963It has been canceled.
>>533458780Wait... Barrett has a wife??
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>>533463339Yeah they show myrna in rebirth
She controls and owns Barret BBC
>>533463491In a flashback or something? I'm dead sure we never see her in VII.
Given how many parodies present Barrett as a homosexual...
>>533463986Myrna Wallace is yet another GOOD addition to FFVII lore
Barret's characterization in Rebirth is absolutely fantastic
>>533463986>I'm dead sure we never see her in VII.they mention her, not show it.
>>533464526She might be one of the rare good additions to VIIR.
>>533464668They do? I plead good faith then, I don't remember her.
Let's hope she wasn't pregnant when the Shinra invaded.
>Cecil has an uncle from the moon
>Also, Golbez is his brother
....eh????? I played pretty on and off, was this foreshadowed at all?
>>533464932>They do? I plead good faith then, I don't remember her.Dyne stands up.
Dyne
I am definitely against it, no matter what. There's nothing to talk about if you're thinking of throwing away our coal!
Our coal's been protected for generations. Our fathers, and theirs before them, risked their lives for it.
We have no right to throw it all away so easily!
Barret
But listen, Dyne. No one uses coal nowadays. It's the sign of the times.
Scarlet
Right, everything is Mako, now.
It'll be all right, Dyne. Shinra, Inc. will guarantee your livelihood once the Mako Reactor is completed.
Barret
Listen, Dyne. I don't want my wife, Myrna, to suffer anymore.
Dyne
I know how you feel! I feel the same way too, damn it!
But even so, I won't give away our coal mines!
Village Headman
Dyne... you've got to understand.
Barret (narrating)
That's how the Corel Reactor was built..... and completed.
We all thought it would bring us an easier life.
The scene changes to show Corel in flames.
>>533465042In the flashback in Corel, correct? Damn, I don't remember Scarlet being here.
I feel like I can't trust my memory for this anymore.
>>533465990>Damn, I don't remember Scarlet being here. >I feel like I can't trust my memory for this anymore.What's that thing Tetsuya Nomura said about FFVII and people's memories? Seemed like it was pretty thematically relevant...
They should just let CS5 make the FF6 remake.
>>533469157CS3 is already on it, don't worry.
XVI was practically a sequel to VI, after all.
>Octopath 0 is a port of the mobile game with some new scenarios
Who the fuck is running this fucking company?
Are they just out of fucking money?
>>533472197actually they could do the same with ever crisis
how easily can i change my license, i just got penelo and i was curious if i make her a WHM early on or something how easily could i change her later
>SE Twitter uploaded PS5 screenshots on their Switch 2 page
lol
>>533472197real gamers don't play gacha so this is a win
>>533472385they should
that was not the fucking voice i expected for fran
Me gustaria comer los excrementos de la seรฑorita Terra Branford
>>533480108many such cases among spaniards
Final Fantasy needs to make a chocobo girl racing game.
>>53284617612 is better than 15 and 15 has some medieval aesthethics too
>>533481731>chocobo girlYou need Jesus.
Koda Kumi should make music for FF again.
/Koda Kumi/i;boards:vg;op:no
>>533491153Calm down, fatherless. We know, you're seething that people got sick of your autism, but having an embarrassing public meltdown like this does you no favours.
>>533491153You struck a nerve. The cambodian shitposter is out of control.
>>533491954You pissed it off, it's parroting you like the one who grew up with no father.
>>533492943Seems you were right, he's enraged. He's going to answer to himself to pretend he's part of a larger consensus, but do not get fooled by his tricks.
Is this all /ffg/ is now? Claiming other people are mad?
>>533502830we could've avoided this, if only XVI didn't crash and burn.
>>533502830You are insane!
>>533420994no he was actually a ffxv dev
had nothing to do with xvi
completely different kazuya takahashi
>>533502830That, and shitting on the best game since VIII.
>>533505336Yeah, XV doesnโt deserve that hate that it gets here.
>>533508212You haven't played XV, right? Only a total tourist would like XV.
>>533509261I liked the idea of XV, not the execution of it. Same thing with XVI.
>>533505336We love SoP here, though?
>>533479456Final Fantasy really needs to make more games about twinks with daddy issues.
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>octopath traveller is on Steam
...worth it?
>>533524445I played the 2nd and it is one of my favorites games of all time
the 1st i dont know
>>533524445>>5335245072 is much better than 1(which is pretty bland)
Love the look of these games though,.really beautiful
Triangle strategy is my favorite
>>533524778What is Triangle Strategy? I heard it namedropped sometimes but nobody ever explains what it is.
I just learned that Zidane in japanese is pronounced like "llee-tan"
And zidane name in FFIX translation is literally, Yรญtan, same pronounciation
spanish translation winning against cringe ameritard translation, once again i see
>>533525304Whoever said that is making shit up
It's ใธใใณ
Zuh-don is how I've heard everyone say his name in English
>>533526289https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i59KSFWBht8
I'm curious about how ff12 plays without gambits, I'm assuming even if you wanna micro manage everyone it's still better to just play with gambits, I just wanna feel like I'm still playing the game instead of doing one command and watching my party just afk kill things
>>533526358He said Ji-tan
>>533526619yeah well, how do you english speaking people pronoucnce llee? ll and j arent the same?
>>533524890Tactics game, directed by asano and shares the aesthetic of octopath generally.
The company behind the gameplay is the tactics ogre guys I think. It's more RPG oriented than other tactics games though (xcom, fire emblem etc)
>>5335248902DHD TRPG (actually not made by the Octopath devs funnily enough) about a noble stuck in a three-way war about ressources. The narrative gimmick is that the game has a morality system about 3 distinct ideologies with consequences both on the plot and the characters you recruit, but you have to actually infer from dialogue which choice belongs to which ideology, which encourages to actually engage with the narrative. Good game, I'm kinda sad we most likely see another like it.
>>533526421You can set more basic gambits like just attack and then use your ((((agency))))) to "hop in" and exploit enemy weaknesses etc.
But honestly, the gambits are a function of necessity in 12, there are some LONG optional bosses and BIG areas to explore that could easily become exhausting when opting for full manual combat.
I usually just have one or two characters I control almost fully manually all the time, and my heal bots or whatever just run their Donald duck script.
>>533526687The closest way to say it in English would be Zee-tan instead of Ji-tan, but at least for English Zuh-don just flows better, and everyone if heard since I was younger pronounces it like that, sometimes the closest translation doesn't work that well, like how Tidus is Tide-us in stead of Tee-dus
My had is shit but I still usually try to get as close to possible as the OG translation but sometimes it just sounds bad in English since it doesn't translate 1-1
AHHH, Gonzales
Beat me up and get 10 silver points ~!
>>533531659Not final fantasy related
Take your garbage to /v/
>>533531659>>533534036>>533534128Bet you feel real silly right now
>>533534306Correct and based
>>533534306He is likely crying from the shame
>>533534306> this image is also in the filter Based
>>533536041@grok is this true?
Why is the fatherless like this?
i hate cactuars
fuck cactuars
i'm tired of doing side-stuff before entering the temple
>>533537941It is indeed based
Octopath Traveler I and II are on GamePass?
Should I check it out??
I just wanted a turn based game so I bought FF X remastered.
Why is it so fucking gay?
Is this game considered bad among you weirdos?
Cut scene scene about shit I do not care about. Battles are fun and all generally pretty easy though.
Did I fuck up buying it or does it get better? Just lost the first Blitzball game. Like do I actually get to play or is it just a 16 hour weeb out?
>tl:dr is FF X even good? am serious
>>533546687It's a 50 hour weeb out good sir
You might be in the wrong neighborhood
>>533547023Not even worth just going on my phone to play the battles?
>>533547738Final Fantasy X is a master work.
>>533547738* Going on my phone while all the cut scenes are going on. Then when it's time to actually do something instead of care I'll return to fight for someone I do not care about. Just send me your toughest battles.
>>533546687It's pretty anime.
It grew on me, pretty good story despite the gayness.
>>533547023Final Fantasy was never anime weeb shit until FFX.
XIII tried to copy it but ended up cringe.
Pretty much every other FF is its own thing and much more western inspired.
>>533548213>>533547023Thank you Sirs for your time.
>>533541931DONT DO THE LAST SIDEQUEST YOU UNLOCK BEFORE HARD MODE
>>533541931>hasn't finished Proto Relic questYa dun goofed
Krile has been in my dreams three times already. I don't even know what uniform she was wearing when making Udon with that hammer.
>ai slop
Yup. Horrible and unsalvageable thread
>>533573609But enough about XIII.
>>533573609Where is the ai
Are there any nude mods for PS1 FF7? I would imagine someone would at least make a Tifa one to go along with the ChaOS models, but nope...
This is the worst general in all /vg/
>>533599496filters will fix this
talk me into finishing rebirth
i think i stopped playing after shinra manor
>>533604443Yuffie
The Temple of the Ancients is perhaps the very best dungeon sequence modern Square Enix has ever produced
>>533427398VANILLE IS BASED!
>>533603537Hiding bad posts isn't gonna suddenly mean the thread will be filled with good posts, it just means you'll be staring at an empty thread for days on end.
>>533607334sometimes i use keywords to get filtered on purpose just to avoid advanced faggotry
>>533610464We know Nanaki
Like a Goddess: Final Fantasy XIII (Yakuza-style open-world reboot that continues the story after LR. Set in Paris.)
>>533612736*I'd filter that
>>533611249Big golden Claire's titties...
So first time playing ff8, what the hell is it with squall?
Quistis just had the scene with quistis after getting the seed rank and that fuck is an annoying edgelord. No spoilers, but for now he is definitely annoying ass hell.
>>533624814Don't know don't care
>>533624885Is it you squall?
Holy fuck FF4 DS' end game is fucking obnoxious. Why do they keep putting in enemies who just spam AOE magic over and over and over???
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