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I miss when Nintendo made good Mario games.
>>533129004 (OP)Mario & DK: Kremlings and Koopas
>>533129256>I miss when Nintendo made good Mario games.They still do.
I wish I could erase my memory of bananza so I could play it again
With Mario Paint on NSO I guess we could get Mario & Wario someday.
>>533129256Yeah I too miss about 12 days ago.
Time goes by so fast.
>>533130018I wish I could erase my memory of Bananza because it's a shit game.
The thing is, /v/tards kinda have a point. Nintendo isn't the same as they were in the Wii days. The wii days were kino, modern Nintendo not so much
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>>533125112>Old thing you like is le dead, deal with it *smug punchable face*Fuck you dude, no need to be such a dick
>>533131351low effort bait
Come up with the main gimmick of the third game starring Yoshi:
>>533131512>wii days>kinozoom zoom
>>533131634New Yoshi Island entry but finally 3d.
Elemental Eggs.
They somehow add Rex, Birdo, and Boshi in the game too
>>533131963>"Rare is le dead, deal with it">"Wii is le bad, zoomer"Double fuck you.
>>533132023Meant for
>>533131885, whoops, sorry
>>533132023You replied to the wrong post.
>>533131634Odyssey and Bananza are both themed around the Donkey Kong Arcade game.
How would Yoshi tie into the Donkey Kong Arcade game?
(N64-era) Rare is good, deal with it
>>533132364The game will have baby pauline as the protagonist
>>533132141>everyone I don't agree with is the same personlol?
>>533132364Mario on Yoshi's back and it explains why Mario hates apes which leads to Arcade DK being recontextualised as a Braid experience.
>>533134579If Nintendo pulled a Braid would it kill Mario?
>>533135356It would finally open Mario up. Mario is manipulated by the true villain of the game into chasing a prince who "kidnapped" Peach. After reaching her it's revealed that the prince is Peach's husband-to-be and the two of them are trying to stop the true villain. Nintendo can then put Mario with Pauline.
So... is the original Donkey Kong just not canon now? Is Bananza a prequel and this DK is like the great great great grandfather of the Rare one?
>>533145595Yes, but also no.
>>533131512>The wii days were kinoThose were the days where people realized Nintendo was a shadow of their former self, especially the late Wii era.
>>533131634Claymation visuals in a 2D format like Woolly World and Yarn Yoshi. Nothing new or exciting, the same shit but in claymation. I'll be surprised of they try to do something interesting with Yoshi this late in the game.
which paper mario game has a mario and peach drawing underground on the wall.
>>533145595Cranky literally mentions the original arcade game.
>>533154045>arcade game events happen>Bananza events happen>Bananza Pauline is left in ndc implying she'll grow up into Odyssey Pauline>Odyssey happens, Bananza/Odyssey Pauline talks to Mario as if she was Arcade PaulineIt just don't add up chief
>>533156807Arcade DK happens twice. Once with Cranky and once with DK.
It explains the lack of arcade DK references in the billboards for New Donk City, whilst Odyssey has both DKC and Arcade references.
>>533154045To be fair, the "rivals in overalls" line is pretty vague and it's not in the original Japanese script. He instead jokes about hiring the banana thief's minions.
>>533154045Not in the Japanese script he doesn't.
>>533160229>it's not in the original Japanese script.So it's localiser fanfiction and should be immediately discounted. Only the Japanese script counts for anything as it's the original.
>>533160229>>533160419So we should immediately ignore that line, then.
>>533160419>>533160451Post the Japanese script then.
>>533161260The pic posted is the japanese version.
>>533160229>>533160419>>533160451>>533160509>>533161094>>533161260>>533161530Nintendo's English and Japanese writers work closely together. Both are canon.
>>533161802>Nintendo's English and Japanese writers work closely together. Both are canon.Literally you spitballing, since again it confirms localizers do radically different stuff than the Japanese text.
>>533160229>>533160419>>533160451>>533161530Diddy kong and dixie kong reference past events like DKC adventures in bananza which has Arcade Cranky DK. What does it look like in Japanese.
You guys do realize Cranky loves to joke about meta stuff right.
>>533161949Cranky is the Arcade DK.
>>533162047 confirms that you're a pathetic schizo.
Do ya like Tetris, son?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRMPNKGYfXI
Arcadefags are getting desperate now. The Japanese text contradicts it, so Cranky isn't the arcade DK.
>inb4 DKC references
They can retcon Cranky being the arcade DK without retconning the entirety of DKC.
>>533161260>Wow! I's been awhile!>While I was chasing the criminal on Rambi, I ended up in a really strange place.>Leaving the island and going underground was a very difficult journey.>What a jerk... What on earth are you thinking, stealing from the island's banana hoard!>So what I'm trying to say is that I'm chasing the banana thief!>I can't lose to the young folks these days! Heh!>He's a real criminal... A guy like that being the leader of an organization... People these days have no sense of judgment.>I'd hire them instead.>...Well, I'm tired and taking a break right now.>Thank you for listening to my story until the end. You're quite patient, aren't you? (gives banana)
>>533131634We're not gonna see EPD8 split itself even more for a dedicated Yoshi series team
>>533162521Cranky has a different sentence on each layer. Can you provide us with translations on each layer? Only the sentence that's changed by the way, not all of it.
>>533162579>We're not gonna see EPD8 split itself even more for a dedicated Yoshi series teamThey should, and a Wario platforming team too.
Was there a streaming service in Super Mario Odyssey?
>>533162521Did Cranky talk about barrel throwing in his first appearance? Can you translate one of this lines where we know he talks about barrel throwing?
I guess Bananza really does take place before the arcade game.
>>533162643I'm at work currently, but I can look into it later. I've already been told that the arcade references from Cranky aren't in the Japanese script though.
>>533162731No, that's another paradox.
Bananza NDC is very fucking modern, has a radio, a bank, modern ad screens, modern architecture and the few residents we saw all had different attires that looked modern.
It's like Odyssey NDC is a fake one filled with 50's people.
>>533136143>>533134579>>533135356>Braid mentionedAm I really going to reply to schizoposting with more schizoposting?
Braid's story is not as simple as "you were the villain all along dun dun duuun!!" like everyone thinks it is, it's actually a little more complicated.
>There are two princesses, one is Tim's ex-girlfriend and the other one is the idea that would lead to the atomic bomb. Tim loses his girlfriend trying to find the metaphorical princess.>There are two Tim's, the real Tim that embarks on a journey through his memories to find out what went wrong in his relationship and try to still find the princess... and the Tim that could have been if he gave up on the metaphorical princess, resulting in a happy, successful life with his girlfriend by his side.>By the final level, all Tims and Princesses overlap, causing Tim to either understand the truth of his relationship (Normal ending) OR reach the idea that would lead to the creation of the atomic bomb (Secret ending).Braid is, to what I understood after reading its lore and getting all the stars, a tale about obsession and resolve; about embracing mistakes and learning from them instead of attempting to live a perfect life at the expenses of running away; And at the end of this tale, Tim is left with a small castle made of loose ideas, symbolizing Tim's understanding of his memories and, if you chased the princess, the constellation of a chained damsel, symbolizing the permanency of his creation.
>>533165106Odyssey's New Donk City has laptops. I'm pretty sure the intent is just that it's trendy for them to dress like that.
>>533162047DKC still happened. The continuity goes:
Yoshi series -> DK series -> Bananza -> arcade/gameboy -> Mario series -> Odyssey
Cranky's just an old geezer who prefers the arcade era of gaming in a meta sense.
>>533165226Or maybe the modern imagery in the version of NDC in Bananza is the writers telling us that "this takes place in the future" whereas NDC in Odyssey took place in the past.
>>533165679That doesn't make sense, are you Suzanneschizo?
>>533165679If that was the case they wouldn't use fucking laptops.
>>533165679NDC was intended to be a throwback to the 80s in general appearance, because that's when Donkey Kong was developed. That doesn't mean it takes place in the past, especially when it had a bunch of modern conveniences dotted about.
>>533165679Buddy, Peach's castle changes every game including its location. It's a cartoon world, you're reading way too deep into it.
>>533165679The billboards are literally the only thing that's different between the two versions of NDC are the different billboards the buildings still look exactly the same. I don't think the difference is as deep as you're trying to make it out to be.
>>533166216Nah, the whole vibe of the city changed
>People in modern clothing instead of all using basically the same style of 50's clothing>Modern billboards instead of old classic ones with neon lights>Modern typography on the buildings>Scrolling billboard on the Tiny Kong Bank>The radio 94.0 billboard having modern typography
>>533166619And the exact same cars. What could it mean?!
>>533166619everything except your first point is again explained by the billboards being different. The clothes could have just been them getting in character for the festival
>>533166801The license plates are different.
>>533166975Huh. You're right. I guess those are entirely new vehicles after all.
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>>533166801There's only one taxi seen you disingenous nigger
>>533166868This is what I meant by modern typography. Look at the newspaper building.
>>533167135Really? I see like eight on that picture.
>>533167432i live in nyc and taxis are old as shit here lol
>>533162657Quality > Quantity Anon also EPD8 has no sentimentalities attached to the Wario series
They had something with Donkey Kong because EAD's Tokyo (who EPD8 basically is) first game was Jungle Beat
Oh yeah, I was talking to an avid Mario friend of mine the other day and he told me something interesting about Odyssey's NDC, that the in-game explanation of NDC being overall vintage is that it was deliberately themed around an older setup as a throwback to older times, hence the apparent time discrepancies. He also mentioned that Odyssey's NDC still had modern elements scattered throughout.
This whole sequel theory seems to be purposely missing that point, but what do I know, I havent played Odyssey. Can somebody confirm?
>>533168743A few anons were talking about just that. Like, exactly. Just read the last 10-15 posts.
Do you wish Daisy had also gotten the sailor alt in World instead of Baby Daisy?
the 50's shit in odyssey was just koizumi's autism, just like how they were all realistic instead of cartoony (even miyamoto couldn't stop him)
koizumi didn't work on bananza so kenta motokura rightfully made new donk city a proper city and censored the faces of the humans so they didn't have to make them realistic looking.
that's literally it.
>>533169453My bad, I did read them, I was just expecting a more in-depth explanation and or in-game screenshots. If it were in my power, I would have tried to shut down this debacle by going to the game and document the thing to hell and back, but that's me and my autism.
Anyways, everyone should just shut up and post more Paulie, preferably the regular one. Mini-Paulie is cute and all, but I love the hag one better.
>>533171231Hag is such a rude word, she's not even that old.
Arcadebabs getting uppity.
>>533171629If you wanna get technical Pauline as a character is over 40 years old, so that's getting to hag territory.
>>533171754Localized material is canon.
>>533171754there's an arcade themed level in the game
>>533161949The localization team fucked up a lot of things, causing all this confusion about Bananza. In Odyssey, the Japanese script for Pauline explicitly says "captured by gorilla", not ape. She then calls it "a good memory", which makes sense considering she created a massive festival celebrating it vs the "tramautic experience that made her who she is today" in the localization text.
>>533171902no it isn't you fucking retard. Why would somebody ever take the localized slop version over the original intent of the developers?
Imagine thinking localized material isn't canon.
not to be that guy, but the japanese team does care about the localized stuff, especially english.
a lot of the stuff that Mario adapted into its "canon" came from localization, hell when they introduced Doug Bowser as president, they had to put a note for japanese viewers explaining the skit.
Imagine thinking localized material is canon.
>>533172646>not to be that guy, but the japanese team does care about the localized stuff, especially english.Is Tiny Kong Dixie's little sister or not?
Nintendo's views on IPs depends on the market. Mario and DK sell more outside of Japan (despite being popular there) so they have to take Mario's worldwide appeal into consideration. They are essentially forced into caring about the english version of the game (hell, most of the VAs are english, the singer for DKB is the english VA e.t.c.).
In a way, Mario is the same as Sonic, where the developers have to design the game with an outside perspective in mind.
>>533173072We won't know until we see Tiny Kong again, but if we go by the "the original is truth" dialogue then she would be, as Rare are the creators. As of now, we consider her a weird thing of the past that will only make sense with a proper return outside of billboards.
It is more likely that Dixie is just a midget like Diddy as they both look like that even in the Mario series (when they're adults)
>>533171629>Hag is such a rude wordYou're right, it is, but given the inherent cute and funny undertones Pauline was given thanks to the Mini-Paulie, it's fun to call her hag just for the meme.
>she's not even that old.Her canon age is beyond me, but I like to think about her being around 30-32 years old... but I also like to up everyone else's ages as well, like Mario/Luigi being in the same range, Peach being around the late twenties, Daisy in the mid twenties and Rosalina around the mid forties.
>>533172646They do adapt western localization sometimes (ex: Pauline's name) but not everything (Bowser vs Koopa).
What we're discussing is developer's intent though, and it's clear they did not intend to link Cranky as being arcade DK. That was entirely the localization team and it's very telling that they had to be very vague about it instead of outright saying it.
>>533173742It could also be a case of Cranky telling meta jokes, with the localization team essentially just taking cues from Rare's writing. The localization was still great though, as evidenced by the writing for K. Rool and the zebras.
I think we should just not take everything Cranky says seriously for now.
>>533173881I don't think we ever should've taken everything Cranky said seriously.
>>533165106NTA but
Assuming Bananza is indeed a prequel
Why the fuck did Adult (non-Arcade) Pauline turn NDC from a normal contemporary city into a 1950s parody with an enforced dress code? What the fuck Pauline
>>533174878>Game Theory: IS NEW DONK CITY A POLICE STATE?
>>533174878Why the fuck does Princess Peach constantly move her castle and rebuild it?
>>533175159She just has multiple.
This reminds me by the way
In Odyssey, didn't everyone give heaps of praise to Mayor Pauline? Like, there's not even a slight hint of criticism of her
...IIRC when a certain streamer who lives in New York played SMO at launch, he joked that something weird must be going on because in the real New York (inspiration of NDC) everyone ALWAYS hates the mayor's guts no matter what
>>533175501people thought she was the one who solved the bowser issue
imagine we get a Diddy Kong Racing remake but Kid Pauline is in it
>>533176217this would be extremely funny desu because Pauline would have childhood trauma not just from a talking fatass crocodile but also a giant fucking pig
>Void Kong turned Pauline into a rock
>Wizpig turned Drumstick into a frog
Voidco got its technology from Wizpig /s
Dose mario paint track what you draw? Im not drawing tits or ass but im wondering
>>533180467I doubt Nintendo would actually put telemetry in a fucking SNES emulator just to see if people are drawing dicks
>>533180467Define "track"
If you mean does it identify if you're drawing something naughty like swastikas or titties and tell you not to do that, then no.
>>533180467>Im not drawing tits or assWhy not.
>>533180695I have to get used to it first lol
>>533180613Ah so they dont, thanks
>>533181865Then I look forward to see the tits and asses you draw in Mario Paint. Godspeed, my dude.
Rosalina is such a weird character to me, her story is self contained and it's not bounded to the mario universe. Her abilities and backstory are very blurry and we don't really know much about her.
This character has a lot of potencial, I'm sure growing up without parents, a normal life and being surrounded by only children for twenty years most have fucked up her brain really bad.
How would you feel about the new 3D Mario being mostly developed externally just like Bowser's Fury was? EPD8 was still involved, but NST did the bulk of development for that title.
>>533186317There is no source for this btw.
>>533190771>NSTC was primarily responsible for/Bowser's Fury, which may have been an unfinished EPD developed prototype.kyoto-report.wikidot.com/super-mario-3d-world-bowser-s-fury
>>533191935>which may have been an unfinished EPD developed prototypeso EPD is still developing the next game and Bowser's Fury was just a small scale first draft.
How long was K. Rool stuck in that hole? The Fractones said it happened long ago
>>533195963It depends on if the English script messed with continuity in regards to whether Bananza takes place before or after DKC as well. One possibility is that it's K Rool's first time appearing chronologically. This would explain why the Fractones can't speak well in the planet core. This would mean that K Rool could have been sealed there for a very long time.
If the English script is accurate with where DKC is placed in the timeline, probably only a couple of years at most.
>>533196650The English script did not mess with anything of the sort
>>533197121We already know the English script added mentions of Cranky being the Rare DK which was not in the Japanese version. It may be that the English localisers took it upon themselves to try and keep the Rare continuity alive in English versions. In which case, every reference in text has to be questioned.
>>533196650They explain why they can't speak well, hell a lot of the questions people have of the game's story aside from arcade DK are explained in the stone carvings.
Also you're way too dismissive of the translation lmao, relax a bit.
>>533197541>They explain why they can't speak well,Because they don't interact with people. That's why Pauline's outfit is only made in the post game as they need to take the time to make her a dress unlike how the other shops have stock on hand.
>Also you're way too dismissive of the translationAny translation unless proven otherwise is to be doubted when localisers inserting their fanfic into games can happen.
I don't like the theory that bananza takes place before arcade because of all the obvious references to it. That seems like a weird thing to add if your definitively trying to establish that one game comes before another.
The only interpretations that makes sense to me is, A: Arcade comes before, or b: Nintedo doesn't have a timeline in mind when making these games and just put whatever they want. I actually agree with B, but find it pretty hypocritical that your main argument for one game "canonically" taking place before another is that Nintendo doesn't care about "canon"
I said it before and I will say it again.
The two Arcade DK theory. It happens twice.
>>533197696where is that fucker.
>>533197872Current Nintendo doesn't allow that anymore. Just compare Splatoon 2 to 3.
Arcade DK is just an NDC movie loosely based on people seeing this gorilla return a child to the city. Still starts with based on a true story though
>>533198262There's been comparisons in the general to some of the Japanese text for Cranky, and that revealed that the localisers had added references to arcade DK that weren't in the original script. Nintendo either is more lenient than they should be or isn't checking for accuracy.
>>533198032>it happens twiceGivin' the fact that the 94' game has their modern designs, I'd believe that. Don't know about jr. though...
Here is the most coherent Super Mario timeline.
What is with narrative that localization teams are completely free to put whatever they want in games with zero pushback from the company their working for?
>>533198823So are you going to provide actual screenshots of that or are you just pulling shit out of your ass
>>533199154>it being canon that Mario will ever be in a relationship and have a childactually totally incoherent sorry
>>533199263This post shows that the rival in overalls line didn't actually happen in the Japanese version.
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>>533199445>it being canon that Mario will ever be in a relationshipMario had a girlfriend before, dumbass.
>>533198823Or they're just being cheeky like Rare was. You're taking cranky way too serious.
>>533199784That was Jumpman sweaty
>>533199608I stand corrected. I now take it that this means we will be disregarding anything that comes from localizers and not the original Japanese, correct?
>>533200063Jumpman is Mario, tard.
No one has shown any proof of any major lore being altered other than Cranky being a cheeky cunt.
>>533200559That is false. He was always referred to as jumpman in the Japanese versions of the original arcade game it was only those filthy gaijin localizers that added the fact that he was named Mario. Remember anything that the localizers add is fanfiction :)
>>533199865Cranky had been said in the past as the proof that arcade DK definitely was in the past. We now know that might not be the case.
>>533200258It's usually a safe bet to question everything that comes from localisers in general. Not everything is wrong, and even most things might be proven to be somewhat accurate but you should never take it as Japanese intent until proven otherwise.
>>533199865>>533200803Dixie and Diddy kong aren't cheeky meta characters and still bring up the past games verbatim, not just Cranky.
>>533201150Yes.. because Bananza takes place after DKC.
>>533201071Miyamoto literally says Jumpman is Mario. He calls arcade days "Mario vs Donkey kong".
>>533201236>Yes.. because Bananza takes place after DKC.DKC confirmed Arcade DK is Cranky either way and dkc days are very canon to bananza.
>>533201071>referred to as jumpman in the Japanese versions of the original arcade gameHe was unnamed in the original Japanese arcade game, retard. jumpman is also from NOA.
>>533201272It's best to take out of game information with a grain of salt until it's verified without a doubt in a game.
>>533201510>He was unnamed in the original Japanese arcade game,Developers refer to the character in Jumpman/Donkey Kong as Mario.
>>533201514>JAPS ARE RIGHT, THE JAP GAME IS RIGHT, LOCALIZERS ARE WROONG!>miyamoto, the jap man says cranky was in the arcade>uhm actually japs are not always right because *moves goalpost*
>>533201717Which developers? Japanese ones? Inside the game or outside of the game?
>>533201717That's why I said WAS. He didn't have a solid name until the north american localization.
>>533201509The events of DKC happened in Bananza's lore (assuming it's not localiser fanfiction), but that doesn't preclude Nintendo retconning within that period of time. If they really wanted to they could smite Swanky Kong from existence, never mind retconning character backstories.
Reminder that unless Miyamoto wrote the game, it's non canon nu employee fanfiction.
>>533202183>Reminder that unless Miyamoto wrote the game, it's non canon nu employee fanfiction.>Another goalpost moved
>>533202318I'm sorry about your autism.
>>533202391I'm also sorry about your autism.
Well while we're on the subject of developers at least one thing we can agree on is the developers themselves said that this Pauline is the same Pauline from Odyssey. Case closed!
>>533201816This is a case of why it's best to look at the games only and not put too much stock in dev interviews until they're reflected in game. The games are where decisions get made, and the most recent game says that Cranky Kong was not Arcade DK. Interviews are valuable for insight, but they're easily contradicted. If the games are primary canon, things like interviews are secondary or tertiary canon where as long as they don't get contradicted by the games they stand.
>>5332025472025 NDC taxis in bananza btfo your post.
>>533202865Developer interviews and obvious implications within the game btfo YOUR post, suzannefag
>>533202743>This is a case of why it's best to look at the games only and not put too much stock in dev interviews until they're reflected in game. The games are where decisions get made, and the most recent game says that Cranky Kong was not Arcade DK. Interviews are valuable for insight, but they're easily contradicted.The recent game still confirms Cranky kong is Arcade DK. DKC stuff is all over the place.
>>533202865>anon doesn't know how license plates work
Everything is as is except Cranky making a cheeky joke, this whole localization debate is worthless. The game takes place after DKC in Japan too.
>>533202865Your entire schizo headcanon gets btfo by laptops.
>>533201935If we are talking about the arcade games, we have to take supplementary information into account since they are from an era of games where 99% of the relevant info comes from there and not in-game.
>>533203102Now he's going to say "erm they were just hinting at it" even though the way more obvious hint is the entire fact that Pauline's character arc over the course of this game is learning how to get better at singing in front of people
>>533203116>The game takes place after DKC in Japan too.Screenshots? I believe you but I just want these guys to shut up forever now
>>533203186Based devs like watanabe help hold up this crumbling post-bananza mario timeline.
>>533203013>The recent game still confirms Cranky kong is Arcade DK.The Japanese text does not reference Cranky being arcade DK, so you are wrong.
>DKCThe events of DKC happening do not rely on Cranky being the original DK and Nintendo can pick and choose from what they want in DKC to be canon. Simply referencing the DKC games does not automatically make everything from those games canon.
>>533203898>Simply referencing the DKC games does not automatically make everything from those games canon.How do you figure, exactly?
>>533203116anon...laptops precede digital billboards by a large margin
I'm just glad that this fat bastard is finally back.
>>533203898>Lack of confirmation Cranky is or is not Arcade DK in japanese"That means Cranky isn't Arcade DK!"
>Clear confirmation DKC events where Arcade Cranky is confirmed is in the game at many points"U-Uh, this isn't enough information to uh confirm anything"
You're picking and choosing stuff to appease yourself only.
Anyone else missing the disgusting NSMB Wii era mandateslop Mario aesthetic? Everything is too high quality and soulful now
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>>533200063"Jumpman" and "Lady" were just generic placeholder names because one is a man who jumps and one is a lady who simply exists. If Donkey Kong really had been named "Stubborn Ape" originally they would've just given him an actual name at some point and we'd all be playing "Craig Bananza" now or some shit.
>>533204349Picking and choosing is all these people do because they're trying to push their headcanon
>>533162360>fractone blockscute
Sorry, but the english version is the canon one. Miyamoto told me so. Takahashi can stuff it.
>>533204572Agreed. Arcade themeing surrounding Mario, Pauline, and Donkey kong constantly throughout the years, even in more mainline stuff, should hammer it home for most people.
>>533131634Yoshi peaked with its very first game.
>>533201071https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wii/mario25th/1/3/
Mario went unnamed in Japan, but Miyamoto called him Mr. Video at the time. Jumpman was a proto name created by NoA and used in DK arcade's manual, before coming up with his final name Mario.
>>533202865>taking reference to Bananza's release date seriouslyWant me to say why the taxi plates have 1981 on them in Odyssey?
>>533203978Nintendo is in the middle of reshaping DK lore, but even before now Nintendo and Rare never particularly cared to keep things entirely straight. For example, Rare DK is in Mario Tennis alongside DK Junior, who should either be DK's father or Rare DK himself. Not to mention the big question mark with Baby DK in Yoshi's Island DS. Or as an example within the games, Diddy is said to be DK's nephew, but Cranky messes with this in DKC2 where he says that Diddy is his grandson when he should be his Great Grandson. When the GBA ports came out despite the game stating otherwise by still calling DK Cranky's grandson, the official description by Nintendo called DK Cranky's son.
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/gba/donkey_kong_country.html
Another example is to do with how Diddy is related to DK. DK64 states that Diddy simply wants to be DK's nephew instead of actually being related to him.
My overall point here is that Donkey Kong lore is incredibly fluid and even back in the day Rare didn't care to keep things straight. So simply referencing previous games certainly doesn't automatically make everything in those games canon.
>>533204349One is clearly ignoring the Arcade DK lore to a point where western localisers are adding it back in, and the other is vague allusions to the events of DKC. This is also why Nintendo has no qualms with the altered Kong history in the Illumination movies, even changing DK to Cranky's son.
>>533204349Cranky is never confirmed in game as being the arcade DK in the DKC games. His in game rants are 4th wall breaking jokes mixed with tips. The closest you get to anything concrete is the SNES intro for DKC1, which can easily be taken as a meta joke regarding Cranky's love for the arcade days.
>>533207024>Rare DK is in Mario Tennis alongside DK Junior, who should either be DK's father or Rare DK himself.
>>533207602>Cranky is never confirmed in game as being the arcade DK in the DKC games.He is frame 1.
>The closest you get to anything concrete is the SNES intro for DKC1, which can easily be taken as a meta joke regarding Cranky's love for the arcade days.Headcanon, there's no joke there, just a mute cutscene. It's him entering a new age of Kong.
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>>533207607Baby DK keeps the cowlick of modern DK so it's not really a Baby Mario situation as Jr was never redesigned to be a young Rare DK. Another example of lore being fluid would be the Mario vs DK games where it states that the DK that Mario is fighting is the original arcade DK, but he's fighting the Rare DK.
>>533207996>there's no joke thereNTA, but it's a big joke about Cranky being too much of an old man for the new radical DK with his new radical ways.
You wanna see a time Jr. WAS redesigned to Rare DK?
>>533207024>One is clearly ignoring the Arcade DK lore to a point where western localisers are adding it back in, and the other is vague allusions to the events of DKC.There's no "clearly ignoring". Japanese lines came first and japanese added humor firsthand, nothing denying or confirming anything. Localizers referencing stuff after that fact doesn't factor into Japanese ignoring anything as there was nothing to ignore in their perspective when writing the lines.
>>533207996https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWHzilbQ34
>Gregg Mayles: That was the original intention. I don't think we really pushed it much because we were, we were very aware of the situation we had with Donkey Kong Jr. and as being seen as... almost taking liberties with Nintendo's characters that we thought if we push it too much and kind of make it a big part of the game that he is the original Donkey Kong we kind of, I guess we risked the character being changed or taken out so... In our heads yes he was, but the game doesn't really promote it that much.Straight from Rare's mouth. The idea of Cranky being the arcade DK was intentionally vague in game because they didn't get permission from NoJ to do so. They were already on thin ice after Jr's redesign was vetoed and didn't want Cranky getting scrapped.
>>533209216>There's no "clearly ignoring"Half of Cranky's character in the DKC games was reminding you about him being the arcade DK. Not bringing it up is clearly ignoring it.
>>533209601>Half of Cranky's character in the DKC games was reminding you about him being the arcade DK. Not bringing it up is clearly ignoring it.Not bringing it up doesn't = ignoring it. They easily could have just wanted Cranky to reference or joke about the game at hand. They also could have thought the dkc stuff and dkc levels were enough callbacks.
If you want more reason why you shouldn't blindly trust nintendo's localization, look up the issue with Vivian in paper mario.
>>533208737Stuff like this just further proves Nintendo views Jr as DK's son and that current DK is the same character from the arcade games.
>>533209797>Not bringing it up doesn't = ignoring it.When it's such a major part of his character it is. It's like when Nintendo ignores that Luigi is afraid of ghosts.
Why is this person denying that Cranky is the original Donkey Kong?
>>533210931sunk cost fallacy
>>533210368You mean the character that got censored in the japanese release too? No thanks
>b-but look at all these japs calli-irrelevant, we see the text in front of us. Japs are very clueless beings.
>>533210931Why are you denying that Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong?
>>533211537The Donkey Kong name gets passed down each generation.
>>533211706Denying reality is bad for you anon.
>>533211803smash bros isn't reality nor canon
>>533212038It's really bad to deny reality anon. You should get help.
>>533212093your credibility is sinking hard after your first post, i thought you had a point before
>Japan tsunami alert
Do you think the direct will get cancelled if it was ever real?
>>533212217I'm so sorry that you can't accept that DK is... DK. It's ok anon, we still love you.
>>533212309There's gonna be a direct?
>>533212352At least you're using actual Mario games again.
>>533212479There was an "industry insider" rumor going around that there would be another direct before July ended. And that the Pokemon Presents we just had was not it.
I think I might have figured it out.
In Donkey Kong Arcade, Lady Pauline and Mario Jumpman were already married.
A few years later, at most, Cranky DK and DK Jr. kidnap Lady Pauline's daughter, Pauline Jr. and fight Mario Mario.
Thirteen years later, DK Jr. comes back from DK Isle after DKC 1, 2, 3, and DK64, and kidnaps Pauline Jr. and fights Mario Mario.
Thirteen more years later, after DKCR and DKCTF, DK Jr. is now middle-aged and works in the banandium mines, and saves Pauline III.
>>533212479Nate the Great (pbuh) said there'd be a direct after Bananza in july. People are starting to doubt him, but the same happened with the Switch 2 stuff so he's likely right.
>>533211803>>533212093NTA but that sounds like advice you yourself should take
Thoust might be projecting methinks
They nerfed the CPU difficulty in MK World lmao
>>533213463>I think I have it figured outThat's when I skip the entire post, look at the last few words to confirm my suspicions, and then hide the post.
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/68580.
New update for Mario Kart World.
>>533213339Because the Bananza forms are African themed
A Dragon Bananza would be as out of place as a Grizzly Bear Bananza or an Anteater Bananza or a Penguin Bananza
>>533213463Why dont you draw anymore, suzanneanon?
>>533213876I have one new drawing in progress.
Funny how MK Worldโs CPU difficulty was nerfed less than 2 months after release yet they never did anything to nerf MK Tourโs CPU difficulty despite years of complaints
>>533213783>Increased the frequency of lap-type courses appearing in the selection when choosing the next course in โVS Raceโ and wireless races.
predicting a video title
>Mario Kart World's NEW update is TOO LATE!
>>533213630I'm so sorry to hear that you're projecting anon. Cranky is just a cartoon gorilla, everything will be fine even if your beloved Rare lore isn't canon.
Thinking of buying a Switch 2 for the hell of it (despite being pissed by the price) but I have no money or job right now, and have had NEGATIVE luck at getting a job (somehow EVERY job, even wagie jobs, either rejects my application or ghosts me post-interview. I think the job market hates my guts or something).
I have considered selling my PC for $800 (and getting a sub-$300 PC while I save my money for a better pc) and getting the Mario Kart World bundle, but I realized that'd be giga retarded.
I am stumped as to considering alternatives.
Should I be a youtuber/twitch-streamer or some shit? Would that even be viable?
>>533213463>>533213731If I may be frank, I think both of you anons are room temp IQ retards cause it's just a fucking videogame series made for kids. They don't intend for it to have lore, or at least, the lore is too malleable to care about
>>533214293just say you're a newfag and don't know about the shitposters here.
>>533214213>Rare is le bad! Their shit is non-canon, which is a GOOD THING ACTUALLYYou're just as retarded as suzannefag (especially since the DKC games ARE canon given that they reference them and EVEN HAVE K ROOL)
>>533214379Oh, I know about them. And let me guess, you're either suzannefag or an arcadefag/anti-rarefag.
>>533131634Everything is edible
>>533214540>Cranky not being the arcade DK โ Rare is le bad!It's ok that you're retarded anon, I still love you anyway. We should celebrate K. Rool's return by playing the DKC trilogy together sometime!
>>533214540 (me)
>especially since the DKC games ARE canon given that they reference them and EVEN HAVE K ROOLOf course, this IS assuming that there even is a "canon" to begin with, I should clarify. But if you think Rare shit is non-canon OR think Pauline "III" is a thing you may have brain damage, imo.
>mfw this thread right now
>>533215093>everything will be fine even if your beloved Rare lore isn't canon.That implies you think it's OK if Rare is memory holed and also that you think that it IS in the first place
Holy shit I fucking can't with you people
At least this isn't like /sthg/
btw
>>533215093That's beta material and DKJR was replaced with Diddy in that game.
Has DKJR been seen recently? No? I thought so.
>>533172283First of all ever heard of Death of the Author? SEcond of all, none of you faggots are right because things are left up to interpretation intentionally. Ergo there IS NO ANSWER
>>533199154There is no timeline numbnuts.
>>533200063Mario is Jumpman, holy shit,
>>533215512This. Though I bet suzannefag or the shitposter vehemently trying to claim Rare stuff isn't canon (i.e
>>533215093) will try to say you are wrong (cause they're troglodytes)
>>533213463who is this "mario jumpman" though?
>>533215357>Rare's lore for Cranky's backstory not being canon โ Rare is le bad!It's ok to be retarded anon, don't worry about it.
>>533212093>>533211803No. Like none of the games have solid foundations connecting ot one another but DKC1, Cranky is clearly the old Donkey Kong, don't be retarded
>>533215489Technically he has, even if it's just been reused Super Mario Kart sprites in Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart World.
>>533215489Okay so I don't wanna make a big deal of this but you can't call "The ideas we were pitching initially" beta material. That's not what beta means in terms of development.
>>533215759>still trying to project and deflect and claim I'M the retard and he somehow isn't>still trying to do ragebait and use pre-DKC shit (aside from Mario Tennis and *UNUSED* content for MKDD where DKJR WAS REPLACED BY DIDDY) and be condescendingly "polite" about itI'm so fucking done with your bullshit right now.
I have no idea who's worse, you or Suzannefag.
why does DK lore in particular cause the most autistic schizos of this general to appear
>>533215489>That's prototype* materialftfy
>>533216198It's the current flavor of the month.
https://x.com/TechnicalMK49/status/1950370089083253207
>they changed how boosts works
>>533215741Mario Jumpman is not Mario Mario, nor is he biologically related to Mario Mario.
>>533216080By that logic, assuming the Mario Kart games are "canon" (especially since Bowser being playble is like playing golf with Saddam Hussein or some shit) (and assuming there is a canon to begin with) -- HOW DO YOU FUCKING EXPLAIN BABY MARIO AND BABY LUIGI BEING IN THOSE GAMES
THEY'RE PAST MARIO/LUIGI
ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO PULL SOME SHIT OUT OF YOUR ASS AND SAY OTHER SPINOFFS LIKE THE MARIO RPGS ARE CANON TO THIS NONEXISTENT LORE OF YOURS
BY THAT LOGIC GENO, MALLOW, GOOMBETTE, STARLOW, ETC, SHOULD BE IN THE KART GAMES
BUT THEY AREN'T
YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD
>>533216094>Smash Bros, G&W Gallery 2-4, Mario Clash, Mario vs DK, Tennis 64, and Double Dash somehow all predate DKCWe get it. You're retarded anon, no need to keep spelling it out. Don't worry so much, it'll all be ok!
>>533215161That's called hypocrisy anon, you can't suddenly cry that there's no lore or that it doesn't matter just because someone challenges your personal headcanon.
>>533216597I dunno, I just saw a post asking if DK Jr was seen recently and responded to it.
>>533216597 (me)
(not to imply the Mario RPGs are bad per se, imo they're great, better than some mainline games even, they're just not canon because there is no canon)
>>533216659What hypocrisy? What headcanon? I never had a headcanon to begin with. My first take (
>>533214293) (aside from
>>533213630) clearly explained that there is no canon.
Saying something isn't canon when there is no canon to begin with is mega retarded.
>>533214293 (me)
btw no one answered my question about how to make money
>>533213463>>533216639Smash bros isn't canon.
>>533217395That is correct.
>>533217395NTA but
There is no canon to begin with. It's Mario. The "lore" is too malleable to give a shit about, as I said. You guys to say something is or isn't canon and being gigadicks about it is unironically pissing me off
>>533216513>movie shit.About as canon as the supershow.
>>533217395Yup, that's right. Cranky being the arcade DK also isn't canon.
>>533217550technically both are canon, but only in their own bubbles of canon separate from the games.
>>533217214Only practical way to start making money fast is keep going for wagie stuff if you're not selling pcs.
It would take ages for a random starting youtuber/streamer to get substantial money deals or high viewers to get large amounts of money from watched ads these days.
>>533217550Supershow is canon
>>533217536 (me)
>You guys toYou guys trying to*
Also I would like to add that the only "theory" that makes sense rn IMO is that no games are actually "related" to eachother; they're all stage plays or some other kind of fiction with in a fiction in a larger meta universe or something; i.e all characters are just actors.
Actually now that I think about it I like this theory a bit...
My understanding is that Pauline mentions her Grandma on multiple occasions during Bananza, and it's commonly accepted that Cranky is the original arcade DK. Not to be the guy who brings up the movie, but Jumpman is a separate character there as well. From what I can gather, Pauline's Grandma was the original Lady, Cranky the original DK, and Jumpman the original rescuer. Of course, we're all just tapping into imagination here, so the most important part is that we smile when DK and young Pauline have fun together.
A fun detail is that DK and adult Pauline are right next to each other on Mario Kart World's box art. So we can imagine the adventures will continue for a long time!
>>533217810>keep going for wagie stuffThat would be great
...if they ACTUALLY HIRED ME
>>533130018I wish I had a Switch 2...
>>533217913Pauline's grandma is never mentioned as being named "lady" nor is it ever implied she was kidnapped by an ape at any point in the game.
>>533217851 (me)
Also I should clarify (forgot to mention) that I mean stage plays as in what Mario 3 is.
It would be kinda weird if Bowser both played the part of a villain in a work of fiction and was an actual villain "IRL", no?
I can't believe a single game has people this mindbroken.
Holy shit I think I'm starting to REALLY dig this whole "every mario game is a fiction within a fiction" theory.
Maybe this IS how lorefags/theoryfags feel after all...
K. Rool makes his grand return and is arguably one of the best Nintendo final bosses ever in a game and people would rather talk about Cranky.
Wait a second
Link, a Villager, (and an Inkling) are in Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe)
How does this play into the "every mario game is a work fiction within a fiction" theory?
Are there "metacharacters" (alongside the metacharacters playing as Mario, Peach, Bowser, DK, K.Rool, Pauline, etc) who are actors that are essentially those characters from non-Mario series? Do their "worlds" exist within this "meta universe" or do the games exist as works of fiction within said meta universe and they're essentially tie-ins for the "Mario Kart" within a "Mario Kart"?
Also TIL Deluxe added BOTW Link along with SS Link
>>533219459As I said, even wagie jobs won't hire me
I tried applying for a fast food company and they ghosted me post-interview.
>>533219802Do you not have any connections whatsoever?
>>533220087I have zero connections, yeah.
The game of life is rigged against me.
>>533219802Got any skills?
You guys got any cool screenshots from DKB?
Give it to me straight, Waribros, is there ANY chance weโll get a new 3D platformer or an RPG this console cycle?
All of this talk about "mario lore" got me thinkin'. Do you think anybody ever argues about Spongebob or Looney Tunes lore? Please tell me society isn't that far gone.
>>533224926I stand by my original statement that DK bananza Would've been the perfect Wario game. YOU LITERALLY DIG UNDEGROUND FOR GOLD. You could even replace k. rool for captain syrup or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7syzPiMarM
Crocodile Cacophony is peak
>>533224926You'll get a WarioWare centered around the Switch 2's mouse gimmick and you'll like it. Maybe they'll drop Mario & Wario onto NSO around the same time if you're lucky.
>>533225756>You could even replace k. rool for captain syrup or something.Sounds lame.
>>533225756>Do you think anybody ever argues about Spongebob or Looney Tunes lore?They literally do.
>>533131634>Mario Game>Donkey Kong Game>Yoshi Game>Wario Game>Luigi Game>Peach GameEveryone from the Mario Party gang will get their own big 3D adventure.
>>533226796That anon is probably a tourist from reddit who never been to /co/
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>>533216639Nintendo is weird and maybe it's a japanese thing but htey didn't want to use Diddy Kong until Rare was out of the picture. I don't think it was a legal thing either, I think they just wanted to give them their space?
>>533217851That's what I'm leaning to as well. Imagine it like how there were a hundred stories of Odysseus before Homer composed the Odyssey. What Homer did wasn't create Odysseus the character, he created a unified narrative. But those stories predated him and were not before that point properly canonical to one another. Instead you have to have a strong narrative like (gasp I know) the movie or a show or something to have a canon. Otherwise everything is just on its own.
>>533217681Cranky being Arcade DK is metatextual. He's the actor who played DK in the arcade game.
>>533219397Cranky is beloved though. Part of the reason he is the original DK is because he symbolizes the old guard at Nintendo aging and becoming that guy. Everyone feels a bit like Cranky Kong after a while
>>533226543Dude, if we get Wario Ware DIY 2 for the Switch 2 with Mouse function for building games and drawing comics and sprites, I'm so fucking down you have no idea
So I didn't like mud. And I just realized I can get rid of mud. So...
Be honest with me guys, how many hours I'm gonna spend on this game?
>>533230271Yes. You will.
>>533230271Kek. 100+ easy
>>533227674I thought reddit was the lorefag place.
>>533230829Considering I'm over 25 hours in already and this is only the second world yeah I see it
>>533225756>All of this talk about "mario lore" got me thinkin'Bananza devs basically asked us to speculate, you pretentious fag.
>>533237945Yeah, thatโs WHY people are speculating about Mario/DK lore so much recently; thatโs a detail the anti-lorebabs donโt seem to be aware of. When a gameโs developers tells you to think about stuff in the game the fans usually, yโknowโengages.
>>533237945The problem is that what's happening isn't speculation. It's one very autistic anon trying to shut down the idea that Cranky isn't the Arcade DK. He wants 0 speculation because he has tied his self worth to Cranky being the Arcade DK like how Sonic fans couldn't handle Sonic having blue arms.
>>533248286But that doesn't make any sense.
Why would he want the timeline to contradict itself?
>>533248371It's his autism. He's so used to considering Cranky as the Arcade DK that he can't handle that lore snippet changing. He doesn't care about the timeline, he's scared of change.
>>533248595I thought we were talking about the Anon who doesn't want Cranky to be the Arcade DK.
>>533248791Wait, what were we talking about?
>>533248791I was thinking the opposite.
We need a prequel to Odyssey where Pauline gets kidnapped and Mario has to save her. It's the only way to save Cranky.
>>533249076But didn't the devs already confirm that Mario and Jumpman are the same character? That means Arcade DK takes place after Bananza.
>>533249317How recently though?
>>533248869I'll be honest anon, i have no idea anymore, we're at the point where the entire general is just people accusing each other of being schizos while acting like schizos themselves, we have lost the plot.
>>533249464The ask the Devs interview for Bananza.
>>533249623You type like a British anon. You should stop posting.
>>533250032NTA but you type like a schizo. I see no piece of text in anon's post whatsoever implying he's a brit
Man this game had soul
Also
>Tsunami alerts downgraded, so the tsunami might be a nothingburger
Direct soon anyways I guess? Assuming Nate is right (which according to Pyoro back before Nintendo sniped him, Nate's sources are correct)
>>533250880 (me)
Nate's sources are usually correct*
Iirc the exact thing pyoro said was "You don't trust Nate?" when someone asked about Nate's credibility
>Responsible for over a gorillion casualties in New Donk City
Does any of you happen to recognize this guy?
I still remember commenting on that specific image and talking directly to OP before I stopped using Reddit last year.
If you're lurking /vg/ come out and say hi
>>533229569>>533227861The english localization has pretty much the exact same text. So much for fanfiction.
>>533259815He's right tho
Whatโs wrong with this image? Do you notice anything off?
>>533265703this is good news
in 2020, the 35th anniversary direct happened a few weeks later.
>>533272228What's the point in looking forward to the 40th anniversary stream? The best we're getting is ports or another sports game.
Hereโs something useful:
https://mega.nz/folder/CYZwlIhb#MiSeWRpQJVusEh_rJ78T0g
TZ Gamingโs WIP soundtrack of MK World, with recordings as clean and as high-quality as possible all in FLAC, all already tagged too
The only things that are unfortunately missing are the 5 castle themes - SMW Castle, SNES Bowser Castle, GBA Bowser Castle, NSMB DS Castle and NSMB Wii Castle - that canโt be recorded clean
Also the cover art hasnโt been added to each song yet but the image file for it is already there so it can be manually added to the songs if you want to
>>533273765If the best we're getting is shovelware then it'll be a bad direct.
>>533273945Cool story bro
>>533274019Don't tell me you like Mario Sports games. Your standards are incredibly low.
>>533274425>Indirectly replyingYou're really seething now.
>shitting his diapers over a 40th anniversary direct because no one's taking his bait
Is MKW saved with the update?
>>533277246never was dead to begin with
>>533249710Why are you lying
>>533265703>Third party onlymeh, not watching
>>533278485I never said it was dead. Just wondering if the changes were a boon since I can't play this week
>>533281693for me the 3 lap courses seem to show up every other race now instead of rarely appearing.
kinda prefer it like this i like playing on both modes
>>533278897Why are you in denial?
>>533203186
Donkey Kong the "idea" vs Donkey Kong the Kong.
>>533250347Lost the plot is a British associated idiom
>>533283942Bananza really did mindbreak you, huh? There's multiple examples ITT of Nintendo ignoring the "Cranky lore", with even Rare themselves being inconsistent with it, and yet you're still treating it like some sacred gospel thinking that Nintendo is going to retcon Mario and several games just to make it still work.
Just accept that Bananza's a prequel or that Nintendo doesn't give a shit about having a consistent timeline/continuity with Mario. You'll be much happier anon.
What if you played a bleep sound effect over Peach saying "Mario Help me"?
It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuMFN049AiQ
Cranky Kong is Donkey Kong from the Donkey Kong Arcade game.
>>533288540Anon I think you might be replying to a shitpost
>More retarded lorefag "Rare isn't canon" vs "Bananza Pauline is Mario's daughter" shitflinging
I'm getting sick of you retards and your headcanons that you think are the "one true canon" and will fight eachother to the death over
Especially since this is a franchise where lore and canon literally does NOT matter, and it's up to the player's interpretation, there is no right or wrong answer, acting like there is is just stupid
>Suzannefag is an arcadefag
I was on the fence, but I side with the retconfag now.
>>533289375Shut up Suzannefag.
>>533290138Whatever he believes in must be wrong.
>>533289870If there is no right or wrong answer, then why do you get mad when I arrange the Super Mario and Donkey Kong games into a timeline?
BTW, update on my Switch 2 buying predicament:
I still can't find any jobs (specifically remote, as I'm moving soon, so any on-site jobs would be a no-go right now). Legitimately considering selling my PC as a last ditch effort but I'm scared of potentially going a year without a PC
>>533289870 (me)
Also I would like to clarify again that my take on mario "lore" is that there is no lore, it's just a game series made for kids, vehemently acting like something is or isn't canon is just stupid, especially when Mario casually goes "Karting With Bowser", who's supposed to be a feudal warlord.
Only "lore" theory that'd make sense, again, is that everything is all a stage play like mario 3
Cranky, DK, DK Jr, Diddy, etc all might as well be unrelated "actors" who play different "roles" depending on the "story"
>>533290545Because there is no timeline dipshit
>>533290790Why do you not want there to be a timeline?
>>533291047Never said I *don't* or *do* want a timeline, just that there is no official mario timeline or consensus on the lore, so you literally should not care about who the fuck each character really is
>>533290790Man, if you flat out can't afford this nonessential $500 toy, you really should wait until you can. Just play games on your PC and get a Switch 2 when you have a job or can afford it. Bananza and MKW are not going to change your life just wait
>>533291378What if I don't have a Switch 1 anymore (my retarded ass sold it a while ago... and it was a modded one too) but want to play Switch games again, this time at 60FPS? I have digital games on my Nintendo account that I could probably get back on a Switch 2
Also I'd get some Switch 1 games I missed out on too
Ideally I'd just use Ryujinx or some shit but it seems Nintendo is sadly winning their war on Switch emulation and modding
>>533291984Nigga use the emulators while you still can also never sell shit unless you're actually ready to part with it. DO NOT SELL YOUR PC TO GET A SWITCH 2 IT'S A STUPID IDEA
>>533292437You know what, you've got a point. Yeah I shouldn't sell my computer
Sorry, I have a fever right now, so I guess it's making me have these stupid ideas.
This just hasn't been my week desu
>>533291378Bananza changed my life.
>>533288540Stomp a croccy.
Perchance.
>>533293179No it didn't it's just a game. Doshin The Giant 2026 and Custom Robo Arena 2 though those will change your life it'll make the switch 2 worth it's $500 price tag.
So far how many hours have you played Mario kart world? have you 100% the game? Im into 45 -50 hours and im half way through the p switches
>>533294173I haven't done any of the open world busy work outside of unlocking the costumes I wanted
>>533294306i find it easier to unlock them in free roam
>>533294173I got 130 hours in it and it's mostly been online races
>>533294173Not 100%, but I've gotten all characters, all costumes, have 3 starred Mirror Mode Cups and Rallies, and beaten the Staff Ghosts.
Why does Nintendo hate Toadsworth?
>>533298665They just don't have a reason to force him to show up. They could stick him in every opening cinematic of a Mario game, but why bother? It doesn't help his case that he was introduced in Sunshine.
>>533298665The fact that he was replaced by a generic blue Toad during the movie's production is hilarious. Bringing Spike back was a-ok, but Toadsworth was not.
>>533300895Now, now. He's not generic. He's got glasses!
>>533301205True, plus he's wearing Toadsworth's clothes recolored blue. This Toad has class.
How long until homebrew or modchips are available on switch 2
>>533296865haven't played staff ghost, is it worth?
>>533303561You don't get anything other than the pleasure of seeing your record above the Staff record, but it was a good way to learn some of the more advanced shortcuts and learning how to do them consistently.
>>533300895Toadsworth is in legal limbo due to Square Enix finally noticing that he's just a poorly-disguised expy of the chancellor
>>532537801
>>533299129>It doesn't help his case that he was introduced in Sunshine.Piantas are distinctly Sunshine but they appear in new games
>>533309756That stems from Nintendo having a lack of memorable friendly NPC races to use for spectators for races, which then basically kept them alive through being spectators. This is reflected in how despite being common spectators they've only been playable in Mario Baseball outside of Mario Kart World. And Mario Baseball had a pretty unusual roster as far as spin offs, with the only playable Toadsworth and Nokis, along with Baby DK and other DKC characters.
>>533310921There are so many others to choose from, but it's always the same Yoshi/Shy Guy/Koopa/Goomba/Pianta shit every time.
>>533310921>And Mario Baseball had a pretty unusual roster as far as spin offs, with the only playable Toadsworth and Nokis, along with Baby DK and other DKC characters.Because they needed a large roster to have a decent number of captains and other characters. Baseball I think marks the first time Goomba was even playable in a sports/party spinoff even despite having no arms which is the main reason they are stuck as NPCs in most spinoffs.
We not only not get an E3-esque Direct, but now all we got is a stinky partner direct.
Lame.
>>533298665Because he was the first character who could deflower Peach in that Russian flash game that made them seethe so much.
>>533308785While that would be hilarious, ttyd remake shows that there's no rights issues at play.
>>533176217Diddy Kong Racing is weird to me because the roster are canonically kids (Timber's background outright states his parents own the island and all the bosses call the player a kid no matter what) so even though he was added as a playable character later...Diddy's a kid right?
But that'd mean Banjo's also a kid and so is Tiptup and the latter had sex and has his own kids
And if we treat DKR as canon and with Bananza out does that mean Diddy Kong just stopped aging like Chiaotzu?
>>533317163Its going to be shitty?
>>533321497i mean that's what we all assumed, right?
diddy and dixie's species are just like that, just like how DK is already adult looking in bananza despite it being implied he's of a similar age to mario and pauline.
>>533320949Nothing of value would be lost.
>>533321568Expect another trailer for DQ1+2 and that's it.
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DK Bananza is actually a metaphorical journey of DK redeeming his bloodline of it's previous sins by traveling through hell to rescue a child version of the woman his grandpa kidnapped so long ago. Culminating in a showdown with his old arch nemesis who was trapped in the deepest pits.
these dinosaurs are going back to hell
>>533322824That's pretty metal, I dig it.
How would you renew life into the Yoshi series assuming we're moving past the yarn aesthetic?
I'd say bring back a focus on dinosaurs
>>533328271yoshi's island remake with hand drawn visuals
Wait
>King K. Rool couldn't have stolen the banana hoard despite Cranky thinking it was him
>Void Kong didn't steal regular bananas, only banandium gems
who the fuck stole DK's banana hoard?
>>533328346We don't need another Yoshi island remake, go full 3d this time.
>>533328426I fucking swear the 80 dollar game gets paid dlc....
Do you guys fw the Mario tabletop RPG?
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Super_Mario_RPG
Sorry to break the party, WORMS!
>>533329075He's so fast...
>>533329075Could he outrun Sonic?
>>533329075Loses to Koopa the Quick
>>533328426I thought the joke was that Voidco stole the banana hoard and Cranky just thought it was K. Rool. The game doesn't really specify things.
>>533329075Wizpig the Great.
>>533329075>microsoft cuck nowgrim
Mmmmmmmmm I love it when people remove the unique elements of a game and turn into a shitty carbon clone of something else. Why not just fucking play TTYD
>>533334059>Why not just fucking play TTYDWhy not just not play the mod? Seems like barking at more content to replay.
>>533334059i get what you may be feeling if spm is one of your favorites, but as long as no ones going "this is the definitive way to play" or trashes the original and just treats it as a optional mod you can try out, it should be fine to exist
how come there isn't a Zelda general
>>533336319>how come there isn't a Zelda generalthere was, but died
then died again
then revived
and died again
>>533336319because they don't have autists who throw shitfits on every single minor thing like us
>>533337826You'd be surprised. It happened plenty often each time it was alive.
>>533328426Cranky is just really slow
>>533337826The only time I went there to make a shitpost about the GameStop TotK preorder bonus, I saw shipping drama
>>533339135that was the only thing they had and it also killed the general
drama can't kill us because we are too stubborn
>>533339135They had Zelinkers that would raid their own general if people started talking about something (usually other ships) that they didn't like. It was awful, and it's why I was always wary of any shipping here, but it turned out people are mostly sane over here, comparatively. Go figure.
>>533339631our only insane shipper is spending most of his time over at /v/ and is also more of a retard that everyone laughs at rather than a group of malicious people
>>533339631It sucks but you're right, /smbg/ is approaching its end, at least we had a good run
>>533339631Replace "ships" with "personal headcanons" and that's basically the state of /smbg/ right now
>lego wario's badwagon has a scannable part that plays voice clips when you put mario, luigi, or peach in the back like it's double dash
>but it's faghani's god awful wario impression
it's so over the merch will start to slowly put the new shitty voices in
https://youtube.com/shorts/Yjx1B0_aOVk
>>533341485based chadghani's chadrio voice
>>533336319There used to be a Zelda general
But with the BotW era being disappointing, Aonuma admitting that he doesn't give a single fuck about stories nor the series lore, the franchise being doomed to having ubisoft open world inspired games, and Zelink shippers being extremely annoying has led to the death of the general.
The same also applies to the Xenoblade general, as Xenoblade 3 was so disappointing that not even a remaster of Xenoblade Chronicles X could revive it.
What does Miyamoto's "Every mario is the same mario" quote mean exactly? Every game with "Mario" in it is connected to any other game with him in it, or all mario games have the same character as mario despite being self-contained stories? Like how multiple episodes of looney tunes can feature "Bugs bunny" despite being separate stories.
>>533345062I think it might be a language barrier thing, and/or the person asking the questions doesn't ask further questions such as if they are all the same exact Mario, even in the games where it wouldn't make sense for him to be there, or if they are all similar looking characters that are all named Mario.
Is anyone making use of the FLAC MK World soundtrack I linked to earlier?
Niggas always stealin bananas
>>533334059SPM had terrible gameplay. Turn based gameplay would be an improvement. Like if Sticker Star was fixed.
How will I be able to watch mario videos without Youtube's ai thinking i'm a kid.
>>533166619God damn nintendo is retarded, why did they think real humans were a good idea.
>>533353330Is that from your own switch? Can you post more?
>one taxi seen
Retarded fucking bitch.
>>533355737>>533166619>533167135There are several taxis in the bottom image, but that blind retarded fuck would try to have you believe otherwise. Retard calling anybody disingenuous.
You canโt see their license plates though.
>>533356702A license plate is not a car.
>NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CORRECT A POST FROM THE SAME THREAD
>I NEED NEED NEED to get mad at a 1 day old reply
>you're disengenuous for noticing that there are, in fact, several cars in this image
What the fuck is happening right now
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We argue about the most retarded shit imaginable.
>>533358062No need to act like you're above it all, paisano.
>>533352580It's needed to protect the lil' bambinos on the internet from getting mentally raped. Anything is worth doing to protect the bambinos.
>>533328271Yoshi Island anime
>>533356187That was a fucking day ago you schizo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e393g4U4xUU
What do we think of Mario Odyssey modding
>>533328271Dinosaurs are lame, Yoshi is lame.
>>533363636It should be illegal. Nintendo don't want you to mod their games. Anyone posting mods hates Mario.
>>533363636>OH HEY MARIO GAME MOD>YOU PLAY AS LUIGII sleep.
>>533363636would rather it be wario or mario but gameplay seems good
So is Bowser Jr. just a time traveling Bowser or not?
>>533294173I got 105 hours right now. I want to say maybe 1/3rds to half is free roam. Most of the rest is /v/kends, and some VS races. I donโt remember my exact VR bcause Iโve been playing other games like Bananza but I think I hit 8.7k or thereabouts. I have all costumes and mooks.
>>533370772Oh and I have all ? panels and 290-something P-switches. Around 70 medallions I think.
>>533131634Good Feel is going to work on the next yoshi,Next level game is going to work on Luigi Mansion 4
>>533328271Dinosaurs are kino, Yoshi is kino.
>>533372709They need to stop making Yoshi and Luigi Mansion games. Yoshi haven't been good since arguably Yoshi Island 2 DS and Luigi's Mansion hasn't been good since the GCN original.
Anyone created Mario Kart World cups?
Here's one of my favorites
>N64 Wario Stadium
>N64 Wario Stadium > Dry Bones Burnout
>Dry Bones Burnout > DS Airship Fortress
>DS Airship Fortress > Bowser's Castle
https://www.youtube.com/live/gZoLrfLcIVg?si=p72WrKPQngnvMhnQ
Partner showcase was a whole lotta of nothing.
Square are pumping out those 2D-HD games out like a sweatshop factory.
>no elden ring
>no ff7r
????
That was awful, PvZ was the only thing i cared about.
Pretty grim direct, bros...
>>533389227PvZ and Pac-man caught my eye, but they aren't new games so uh, yeah the direct offered little.
Beta Yoshi looks like his parents are related
Mario 40th anniversary will save us.
>new DK free DLC: Funky Kong's Balloon World
>new MKW DLC: DK themed DLC
>mario galaxy + mario galaxy 2 pack
>mario 40 battle royale
>teaser for next 3d Mario
>some mario spinoff, maybe from camelot idk
>>533390031Nothing about the movie?
>>533390031Save us from what?
>>533388408Third parties don't give a shit about Switch, news at 11.
>>533388538Based, it would've been a bigger snoozefest.
>>533389897lol
relevant gif
>>533390031>MKW DLC>Paid DLC for an $80 game
Pac-Man reveal was very interesting
Say it with me now, paisanos
NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
>>533400503Stop spamming bab. It exposes you as a Sonic raider.
>>533388495True. So many soulless remakes.
>>533401928I have never posted in a Sonic thread in my entire life.
>>533401928>exposing yourself as a Sonicbab
>>533402520Before the babposter came after Bananza released the only times Bab was posted here was when the Sonic general raided us.
>>533402668There is no โbabposterโ.
>>533403174It's obviously only one anon spamming Bab.
>>533403279I just said bab and Iโm not him. You just said it too.
>>533403339You're not slick, schizobab.
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When Miyamoto was describing the room Mario and Luigi would run around in during early Super Mario 64 development, he mentioned that it was a room made of simple lego-like blocks. Since we have development files for Super Mario 64, thanks to the gigaleak, do you think he was referring to this room?
https://files.catbox.moe/cb18ji.jpg
Or did he mean checkerboard patterns, like in the Shoshinkai 1995 footage?
https://files.catbox.moe/qz22ap.gif
Because that was also in the leak, except it's green instead of red for some reason.
https://files.catbox.moe/g1qnhz.png
>>533404849The only way to be sure is to see the original Japanese interview, to make sure itโs not mistranslated.
>>533412498?
Thatโs a Japanese interview.
when will we get a new IP
and i dont mean a cheap mini-game like drag x drive or snipperclips, i mean a proper new mainstay like splatoon or kirby
>>533417870Bit of speculation that the online test is for a new minecraft-style IP.
Anyone else having issues with cartridges popping out of your Switch 2?
Itโs especially bad when I attach or remove joycons
>bought Arms at full price while drunk
>>533422316Yeah? Waddaya want?
>>533423810Mario! How dare you disturb my family vacation?!
>>533423810Mario? You were drunk? Also, was ARMS really any good or is it mid?
>>533426149why were you looking up "primate penis sizes", anon
>>533426149Couldn't they pick a more flattering picture for a gorilla?
>>533426149lanky kong has the biggest kong dong, interesting
>Quizztone talks about how giraffe and lion NPCs used to exist but don't anymore but the Fractones they lived with continue to imitate them
Were giraffe and lion bananzas planned and scrapped or is this teasing DLC?
>>533426391We had a guy looking up turtle penis sizes a while back
>>533421981>these ai hands Grim
>>533426391You don't want to know how we stack up against our evolutionary cousins?
Featured on the Mario Paint official website.
>>533431793>that hole near her onepiece bottomis she... having sex?
>>533432364It's a flower pattern.
The gamers yearn for more Diddy Kong Racing
>>533172646>>533173742Wait, is Bowser not called Bowser in Japan?
>>533185086They should make a Super Rosalina Galaxy game.
>>533436569No, he's called Koopa.
>>533436569>he doesn't know
>>533436569Are you fucking serious, retard?
>>533436569Bowser is Koopa in Japan. In English the Koopa Troopas stole the Koopa name as their name in Japan was Nokonoko.
>>533419276>speculationit's a fully fledged game
>>533437751>>533438883>>533442549I just presumed that Bowser was his Japanese name and that is why they started using it in Mario 64, so that both languages matched. Why would they change it after using the correct one until then?
>>533442818A prototype of one.
>>533444993But they didn't start using it in Super Mario 64. It's always been Bowser in North America, at least on video game side of things. Licensed works flip flopped on which name was used. The DIC cartoon primarily used Koopa, but sometimes tossed in a "King Bowser Koopa" in to keep clarity with games. Or something.
>>533445763Not really a prototype, I'm playing through it right now it's a fully fledged game especially with the recent build.
>>533445763>It's always been Bowser in North AmericaNot everybody lives in a third world country anon. Here it was King Koopa until Mario 64.
Had Kameo release on a Nintendo system would her DKC themed costume be Dixie Kong or Candy Kong themed (she'd definitely have something based on Krystal)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSLa5M8juyw
we were robbed...
>>533448321North America isn't a country, buddy.
>>533446926Really? Is it the final build? Is it available for retail purchase? No? Then it's a fucking prototype. That's how these things work.
>>533426149>the average is now slightly above 5 inches instead of 6I'm average now, I made it bros!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pblSayDdaXI ROBBED! ROBBED I SAY!
>>533452406Are you retarded? It's an alpha/beta build. A prototype is something cobbled together, a proof of concept, this is beyond that.
Learn your shit before posting nonsense.
>>533453013This is what we call a Functional Prototype, dimwit. I'm sorry to say that "prototype" does not mean something that is held together with glue and duct tape. It covers a wide range of the development process.
>>533452836Tech demoes
They were just tech demoes
>>533453458YES
WE WERE ROBBED OF KINO TECH DEMOES
>>533453552>>533453458Jokes aside, what I really mean by "robbed" is how Rare left Nintendo; imagine if they actually made shit on the Gamecube and Wii
does anyone really DISLIKE mushy bananas?
i mean i kinda get it for people who like normal ones but i've eaten too much banana bread to completely mark them off as outright rotten
>>533453301keep digging your hole further
>>533453301A functional prototype is still a prototype, and nothing in prototypes are meant to make it to production whilst an alpha/beta is code that's meant for production.
The online test is a game in alpha/beta meant for production and not a prototype, as those don't need to be tested by the consumer.
Realistically speaking, what would actually happen if Nintendo bought the rights to Rare's old IPs (other than just vaulting the IPs and DMCAing fangames and mods because no fun is allowed)?
And what about Playtonic buying said IPs (if they can even afford it)? What kind of monkey's paw would that entail too?
>>533454903Playtonic would be the best case scenario, their recent Yooka-Replaylee genuinely looks like what Yooka-Laylee should've been from the start with all the features and complete overhaul of the level design and move set. They're also brits which is kinda needed for these games to have any of their charm, on top of the old character designers working there.
>>533453301You're thinking of hardware prototyping. What I think you're trying to describe is called evolutionary prototyping, a kind of software prototyping in which more and more things are added to a base program which can eventually become a final product. It's significantly different from throwaway prototyping in which systems are built and then thrown out rather than added to a product. Video games are generally developed using a subset of Evolutionary Prototyping called Iterative Prototyping.
So if that's what you were going for, then you're right, and the other Anon is wrong.
Do you guys think Kevin Bayliss is up to something with Nintendo?
He tweeted over and over about how he likes DK's reredesign (which again is probably just good sportsmanship but still, it gives off this vibe where he seems to be ACTING like he's JUST saw the new design, given the whole winking emoji post alluding to a potential collab), and he posted a winking emoji when someone tweeted "I wish Diddy Kong Racing came back"
(I'd post his exact tweet but I couldn't find it)
What is this fucker up to
Can you guys take your schizo back please he's shitting up /v/ again
>>533453793>imagine if they actually made shit on the Gamecube Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, and Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Donkey Kong Racing as well if they got it figured out considering it evolved into Sabreman Stampede and then they canned it because they couldn't figure out the objectives
>WiiThey'd do all sorts of stuff with the Wii Remote & Nunchuck
Whether or not it'd be fun is anyone's case considering how many bells & whistles they put in Diddy Kong Racing DS only for none of it to work
>>533457116/v/ was already shit when he got there
>>533457116Which one and on what thread?
>>533458104Aye, fair enough
>>533456707>and he posted a winking emoji when someone tweeted "I wish Diddy Kong Racing came back"I know what you're talking about but odds are Playtonic's just working on a spiritual successor
>>533454903It depends on if they have enough manpower to even support those IPs period or if there's anyone (outside or within the company) who WANTS to work on those IPs and can do a competent job on them.
I don't see EPD wanting to do Conker and they might bury him harder than they did Time Twist.
Seavor himself said Conker's the kind of game he'd never expect to come out of a Rare that was fully owned by Nintendo.
>>533455207I get why people want Playtonic to work on Banjo-Kazooie but I still get why Playtonic would want to make Banjo-Kazooie (aside from sales).
It'd be cheaper and more fulfilling if they just stuck to the IPs they do have (especially when they're blatant expies of the bear and bird to begin with) rather than shell out millions acquiring Banjo-Kazooie (as well as other Rare IP in case it's an all or nothing type deal)
>>533458654>Time Twistwhat's Time Twist?
I still pretend they're part of Mario canon, if canon even is a thing
>>533458879Time Travel Famicom game involving the KKK, Adolf Hitler, and ends with the player exorcising a demon out of baby Jesus
Never been re-released
Never acknowledged in Smash Ultimate with a spirit
Only mention is in Nintendo's Famicom history website (and possibly their museum since apparently they have boxes of every game they've published which is why some Rare games are in it)
>>533459275Sounds fucking metal
>>533459243>CBFD in the same canon/universe as Mariothat'd be funny and also cursed
>>533458654*still don't get why Playtonic
>>533459457I did put Windy(for lack of a better name) near the Isle O'Hags
>>533460197This map is a dangerously based kind of autism, I dig it
>Windy off the coast of BeanBean KingdomI don't know why I find this funny
>>533454903>(other than just vaulting the IPs and DMCAing fangames and mods because no fun is allowed)?Honestly I kind of hope Nintendo doesn't acquire Banjo since Microsoft's policy on fangames is a lot more forgiving and someone's making a Grunty's Revenge remake
I don't want someone's hard work go to waste because the folks at Kyoto bought Rare's IPs solely to secure redistribution rights
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>>533460447desu I was thinking of shrinking the Beanbean kingdom a little bit. They kind of just have two peninsulas with nothing going on.
I made this map for use with the Super Mario TTRPG system that /tg/ made up a few years ago. One of my ideas so far was altering old AD&D modules for use with the game. Starting with Keep on the Borderlands, I was thinking of placing the keep somewhere between the Mushroom and Koopa Kingdoms. Not sure where the Caves of Chaos would go.
Temple of Elemental Evil being ported to Mario would be sick too. But I'm not entirely sure how I would even begin to set that up.
>>533461265That and also the fanmade Viva Pinata remake project and also Nintendo would definitely delist KI2013 from Steam and not sell it on their own platforms
>>533460197If the Isle of Hags is far away from Bearburg, does that mean Banjo isn't a Brothers Bear?
>>533310921i'm still disappointed that they introduced all these new species in odyssey but never used them as spectators or npcs in spinoff games
>>533460197Where's Timber Island?
>>533459243Is it weird I think crossover/cameos = canon same setting is stupid (otherwise the vast majority of western television takes place in the mind of an autistic kid staring at a snowglobe) but I think the DKU interpretation DK Vine has is neat even if it falls apart once you put 3 minutes of thought into it?
Granted they themselves admit it's just for fun
>>533300895It's even crazier that they put Chunky Kong in the movie but Toadsworth and Toadette were not allowed due to miyamoto's ever changing autism
>>533328426Cranky was just being racist which accidentally made him correct
>>533298665>>533300895You know how people wondered why K. Rool didn't show up in the Universal Studios park and the theory that Nintendo just wanted to bring the guy on their own terms in their own game basically proved to be correct?
Yeah, Toadsworth ain't getting that lol. They fucking don't care about him
>>533465710i mean no shit.
toadsworth is a mainline character and yet he doesn't appear anywhere.
he's just not marketable or remotely interesting for anyone that's not a super autistic rpgfag who thinks toadsworth is some sort of messiah for toads with different designs (despite toadette being there)
toadette and even toad fulfills his role easily whilst being characters that people like.
Is there any proof that that the bananza merch in tokyo says that the dk in that game is the same as the arcade? Not like that would prove anything anyways..
>>533466037Thankfully, characters like E. Gadd don't have that issue.
>>533465112I'm honestly thinking of erasing the Sprixie Kingdom and replacing it with Timber Island.
>>533466986My god look at all those amiibo!
>>533460197Some more questions btw
Where's Dinosaur Island?
Given the way worlds are structured in SM64 and BK -- where would Freezeezy Peak, CCM, Gobi Desert, Dry Dry Desert, etc be? Sherbet Lake for the snow areas and Sarasaland for the desert areas?
Where's Tostarena? And all other areas from SMO, etc
>>533467056Ah, okay.
>>533467359I just considered Yoshi's Island and Dino island to be the same thing desu. If they aren't I might just make two.
Dry Dry Desert is in Sarasaland. I haven't considered the areas from BK1 because I always thought of them as pocket dimensions of their own. But the idea of them being scattered about the world of Mario would also be interesting. And I was too lazy to include any area from SMO other than New Donk.
>>533462445I imagine Banjo may have just ran far away from home. Also another headcanon I have for the Bears is that every female's name starts with T, just like every male's name starts with B
>>533466037Nobody likes Toadette though, only Toadette dev does
>>533468023>I haven't considered the areas from BK1 because I always thought of them as pocket dimensions of their ownYeah, fair, good point. Otherwise Jinjos would be all over the world, like flies
>>533461484Imperial Sultanate of Sarasaland sounds cool as fuck.
>>533468101>Nobody likes Toadette though
Got jumpscared on twitter
https://x.com/chiara_eliz/status/1950819548422119826
>>533471040>>533471217>had the thought โwhat if the two paulines were sistersโ and then an hour later realized that is a terrible ideaIdongeddit
>>533471040>Pauline's their last name, like Mario Mario and Luigi Mario
>>533129004 (OP)Havenโt been on this general in about two months, is the new Donkey Kong game any good? Donโt plan on buying a Switch 2 until after the holidays but just curious. I also read apparently someone from Nintendo said Mario and Peach are just friends with no feelings, but I find that a little hard to believe considering most games end with some kind of kiss on the hat/cheek.
What would marioware be about
>>5334726101. Its pretty fun imo, its worth checking out at least
2. The whole "mario and peach are simply friends" thing is just dumb considering that mario proposed marriage to peach at the end of mario odyssey
>>533472610Their relationship was teased, but it was never outright confirmed they were a couple, or even dating.
>>533472925Mario sees Wario is making games and thinks it'll be fun to try it himself. Wario's old memories of hating Mario resurface and he begins a one-sided rivalry to outdo him.
>>533473045they're just friends now because peach rejected mario's proposal
I finally beat smb2j, and yeah I used a save state at the start of each level, so what I could've just done the infinite lives glitch I literally heard it was intended by Miyamoto for smb2j
This game really was too hard, especially world 7 and 8, almost like a kaizo hack. Even got to see Bowser's brother (blue, removed in All Stars version)
Did you know Mario is a cuck was officially confirmed in smb2j?
Nintendo recently confirmed Mario and Peach are just friends, but people surprised by this must have never beat smb2j and saw this message
>>533476047This could also be interpreted as "this is where it stops being a friendship and becomes a relationship"
>>533476047>Did you know Mario is a cuck was officially confirmed in smb2j?>Nintendo recently confirmed Mario and Peach-How does Friends translate into cuck, you porn addict.
>>533476047It says Mario and Peach's friendship was ended there after he saved her kingdom.
>>533476810>>533476880I did not just beat smb2j for Peace to get tag teamed by Bowser and his brother while I continue to be her "friend"
She was even giving it up to the Toads fucking noo bruh this whole game was Miyamoto's cuck fantasy to torture the player
>>533477162>I did not just beat smb2j for Peace to get tag teamed by Bowser and his brother while I continue to be her "friend">She was even giving it up to the Toads fucking noo bruh this whole game was Miyamoto's cuck fantasy to torture the playerYou're retarded and brainrotted.
Hello tourist here, is there always a big nintendo game released around Christmas? What are the chances its a new mario 3d game?
>>533477162Anon are you okay?
>>533477321Low, the Odyssey team just finished bananza. May take a while for the next 3d Mario.
>>533477321An August or early September announcement would give us at least 3 months between the announcement and the release date if it were to be in December, in time for Christmas.
>>533477321Nintendo hasn't released a video game in December in years. They usually do their holiday releases in November.
The usual 3D Mario team ended up working on the new Donkey Kong game, so a new 3D Mario being released so soon is practically nil, unless they had a brand new team working on it and they just simply haven't announced it yet.
>>533477572Thats what I was thinking too. Are they just gonna push dk bananza as their Christmas game?
>>533477727>>533477573Thanks for the replies. I shouldn't have finished dk so fast
>>533477872Neither Air Riders nor Prime 4 have dates yet, but are promised for 2025. One of them is going to be the holiday title.
>>533471040She needs to have Pauline #1 tattooed on her forehead
>>533478057I hope it's prime 4
>>533477727Ok, then maybe we would get the 40th Anniversary Direct in August, and then 3D Mario in November.
please let it be Mario Maker 3, Nintendo has to do something riiiiightttt???
>>533477727Isn't the new Hyrule Warriors slated for Winter 2025?
>>533481341Yeah. "Coming this Winter." Could be December, but I think it's more likely they didn't want to write "2026" since that would seem like a longer wait time.
>>533479318Not gonna happen. It's too soon for a 3D Mario game. Also why the fuck are retards expecting a 3D Mario game for the 40th anniversary of a 2D game?
>>533490416>too soonThey've released a 3d mario game on the first year of every generation. It's basic pattern recognition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAFLA50aNRw
>>533491130>patternfaggotry
>>533490416They released 3D all-stars and bowser's fury for the 35th anniversary, retard.
>>533456707If you don't make it clear you like or dislike something then schizo Nintendo fanboys will craft elaborate narratives about you.
>>533492691Name one time this wasn't true.
>>533494309The GameCube was released in 2001, Sunshine was 2002.
The Wii was released in 2006, Galaxy came out in 2007.
The Wii U was released in 2012, 3D World came out in 2013.
But what you seem to miss is that DK Bananza is filling the 3D Mario role. Nintendo will release a 3D Mario, but Bananza fills the role the other 3D Marios had.
>>533494976>first year of every generationanon...
>>533494976The Switch 1 came out in 2017 and Odyssey came out in 2017.
The Switch 2 came out in 2025 and the next 3D Mario should be here in 2026.
>>533495294Those are all second years. But like I said, Bananza is the system seller 3D platformer that takes the place a 3D Mario would usually have.
>>533495743>second yearsGameCube released on September 14, 2001, Sunshine's date July 19, 2002. difference = 308 days
Wii released on November 19, 2006, Galaxy's date on November 1, 2007. difference = 347 days
Wii U released on November 18, 2012, 3D World came out November 21, 2013, difference = 368 days
The only one that doesn't follow it was the Wii U and you saw how that console ended up.
>>533496170Nintendo isn't counting days, ya fool.
>>533496654When did I say they did?
>>533496827Also, they go by business quarters.
>>533454903I honestly think Retro would have had a 3% chance of doing Rare IP
Not because of shit like
>Oh they did DKC so they're the new Rare lolBut because the CEO at Retro worked as a tester for those games including Banjo, Perfect Dark, Killer Instinct, etc
Yes including Donkey Kong Country
>>533496170They're all different financial years, which is what really matters to Nintendo.
>>533496827All of these are a different year. Nintendo doesn't work on exact days like you're implying they do with mentioning the day count.
>>533497172Still, they all released early into the consoles lifespans.
>>533497743We're in unprecedented territory with Bananza, so the next 3D Mario could be a late release like Wonder. Probably a little earlier.
>>533498172The credits of Bananza is missing a lot of people that worked on Odyssey and Koizumi was also missing.
>>533498513The obligation to release a landmark game is fulfilled, meaning that time has been freed up to release the 3D Mario at their own pace.
>>533499075DKโ Mario. The 2D Mario team was able to get Wonder and Pikmin 4 out the same year.
>Mario Kart World had a 97% sellthrough rate
>Mario Kart World bundle only accounted for 65% of total Switch 2 sales
And people thought Nintendo was mad for launching with only Mario Kart World, kek!
>>533500148No one should ever genuinely listen to folks who just flat out ignore Mario Kart is bigger than Zelda and 3D Mario. Much less in Switch 2's situation where we got flat out told that a big 3D adventure by the 3D Mario team would be out on the second month of the console plus all existing switch 1 games are available too, some with performance upgrades.
>>533498513The other guys missing likely means they are working on Mario, but that doesn't mean it's aimed for a 2026 release.
I had no idea this scientist from WL3 and WL4 were supposed to be the same character, not only that but he was a boss in Dr. Mario 64, and most of all that he's a character originating from that Japan only Frog Prince game that was developed by Intelligent Systems, which is ironic considering what studio solely makes Wario games at this point.
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Mario in-universe religion concept
>>533507795Somebody talked about an E gadd game here before, they should implement Scienstein in there or something.
Why is there no Berlin Byways remix in World
>>533499449Wonder and Pikmin 4 aren't 3D platformers. There's been work done on the next 3D Mario, but it's not the same situation.
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Nintendo, this is what we want.
>>533499449Pikmin 4 was co-developed by Eighting.
>>533513013We want awful looking games?
>>533496170Wii U launched with a new 2D Mario game.
>>533500148>enthusiast circles and dedicated "media" have no clue about the market>news at 11
>>533496170NES, SNES, GB, GBA, GCN and Wii U all launched without a new 3D Mario game. Just sayin'.
>>533493079Yeah, the only thing remotely new was Bowser's Fury and didn't even come out in 2020.
>>533517387nice bhabbhabati ranjeesh
>>533517387Cute and canon.
>>533518376big day ahead for this mayor
Anyone know if these are real? I see the bd&a tag but they look like bootleg copies...
>>533517387Why couldn't we have sexy adult Pauline?
>>533519593We still have her. Her games didn't stop existing just because DK Bananza came out. Plus, I'm sure she'll be getting costumes in Mario Kart World, they've done a pretty obvious job of telegraphing that.
>>533519156I think they are real
>>533520249MAAM DO NOT REPORT
I feel like itโs obvious that Wonder switch 2 edition will be one of the main announcements for the 40th anni?
>>533523503i wonder what kind of new mode they could even put into it, would they play it safe and just have it be like the kirby DLC, or something entirely different like bowser's fury was to 3d world.
either way it's nice to not need to be able to pay for it full price.
>>533523503no it will be Mario Maker 3 my schizo radars tell me it will be Maker 3
>>533526749Maker 3 makes the most sense if Nintendo is interested in continuing the spin off.
>>533508375>Order = Good>Chaos = Bad>In a franchise where the protagonist disobeys virtually every conceivable law from jaywalking to thermodynamics
>switch 1 price fucking increases
>stock market plunges
>tariffs are starting to rear their ugly head
Call it a hunch, but I think I need to buy the SW2 before the price gets even worse.
Need to make $500 though...
Maybe I SHOULD sell my PC after all... I could get $950 from it... maybe use the remainder money from buying a Switch 2 to get a mini PC in the meantime while I wait to save up for a new gaming desktop...
>>533536705you have enough time.
i'm sure there is atleast one fast food restaurant willing to hire you
>>533538874Unironically, I don't have enough time to wagie for some fast food shop sadly
I'm moving out of state (to Florida, where the cost of living is "cheaper" according to my boomer dem family who might be just as retarded as the boomer POTUS) in like a month
Not that I'd have any luck getting hired here in the first place, and I doubt I'll get hired in Florida either
>>533540218he looks so dead inside
>>533540218>>533540839>>>/v/717018589>>>/v/717018798
>>533541689i just thought the pic was funny and wanted to share it on other boards
>>533541926I just thought it was weird, I felt a sense of deja vu.
>>533536705You fucking idiot stop trying to sell your pc for a switch 2. We already had this talk
>>533542535>Dixie KongWhere's Yankee Kong?
>>533452406>North America isn't a country, buddy.USA hasn't nuked Canada yet? What are you even doing?
>>533473312Imagine turning up to Suzanne's house for your first date only for these two to answer the door and ask you what your intentions are.
>>533476047>anon can't understand "just good friends" jokes
>>533476047They never said "just" good friends
>>533546857She's 13 you sicko. Kill yourself. Was you posting about Suzanne all this time just you wanting your waifus to be real?
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>>533551043I do not refer to her as Suzanne anymore.
I respect Pauline.
>>533551043Who said she would still be 13 when you rocked up for your date?
>>533540218I have no thoughts positive nor negative.
>>533362567So what, retard? If a retarded response graces my screen, I will call it out, faggot.
>waits 2 days instead of 1 day this time
>>533556948You didn't "call it out", you were too much of a pussy little bitch to even respond to it directly.
>>533427316They didn't want to make NPCs that don't correspond to Bananza forms.
>>533477572>>533477727Somebody compared the credits of Odyssey and Bananza and their are a lot of Odyssey people who didn't work on Bananza
>>533427316>>533559718I feel like Lion's were definitely a scrapped form so they took them out and replaced them with Lion Fractones. Feast Layer even has lions carved into the rocks like the other Eldar layers.
>>533540218Are all of those RPGs though?
>>533561024SPM is a platformer with RPG elements.
>>533551043Bit of an overreaction there anon. Something you are over compensating for?
>>533543773Died in the Donkey Kong Island Civil War
>>533562142I know DS is technically better than 64 from a graphical standpoint, but that color palette is just so ugly that it makes the whole game look worse visually.
>>533564594The whole scene is washed out and then you've got Mario and Koopa the Quick remaining bright and vibrant and looking completely out of place as a result.
>>533564828Yeah, it's a little incongruous. At least Nintendo brought back the color for their current games. Now they just have to chill out with all the bloom they put everywhere, lol.
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Lorefag here with Kong-specific creation myth
>"In those ancient days, sailors were terrorized by a great leviathan of the sea, and the people wished for it's defeat. The stars, seeing the sailor's plight, took pity on them and thus bore a great champion from the heavens. He was mighty and powerful, called Kong for his immense strength. He descended from the heavens and battled the beast for 40 days and 40 nights. Creating great storms and waves, marring the land. Eventually the two slew each other. And Kong's great body became solid as stone, forming an island. From it's sands grew great palms, and from them, the sacred fruit, the banana, from which Kong is remembered by. The stars spoke to the sands, and from the sands, a people in the image of the Great Kong were born, raised from it. They too were called Kongs in his name."
I wrote this before all the Banandium lore got revealed though.
>>533523628I'd like it to be like Bowser's Fury, some neat short side game that uses the main game's mechanics and assets. LIke some absurd shit like a Metroidvania Mario or whatever.
Autistic Map update
-Removed Sprixie Kingdom: I'm pretty sure that exists in another world entirely
-Added Timber Island
-Moved Isle O'Hags and Windy Island closer to Kong and Krockodile Islands, imagining Rare just gets it's own funny place on the map
-Added Tostarena to Sarasaland, imagining it as a small vassal state to the empire
I'M A WARIO
I'M A GONNA WINNNNNN
OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>533468023Banjo was young in the events of DKC3 and helped Dixie rescue diddy, whereupon she gave him the Rare Pin
banjo and conker got deleted off the canon, sorry to say.
>>533477321What is it with you faggots wanting a new 3D Mario game, we just got Donkey Kong, holy shit, calm your tits and finish the game
>>533574851Is this the only Bowser render in which his collar doesn't merge with his shell?
Look at those veins, goddamn.
>>533543773Yankee Kong was her dad. And yeah, he's dead, that's why her mom remarried Country Kong from Diddy Kong Pilot and they had Tiny.
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>>533575224My headcanon says they stay in the canon and also Mario and Peach are married and Mario ascended the throne of the Mushroom Kingdom.
>>533575770>Mario and Peach are married and Mario ascended the throne of the Mushroom Kingdom.How long will take for Nintendo to finally make this happen and how them to have a kid and Mario games have a โnext generationโ aspect?
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>>533581384This is actually part of a concept for a Super Mario TTRPG adventure I'm mapping out(System: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Super_Mario_RPG)
Gary Gygax's undisputed Masterpiece of a module, the Temple of Elemental Evil, ported to SMRPG. Thinkg how Fistful of Dollars was an adaptation of Yojimbo. Or how Kurosawa did an adaptation of Shakespeare's Macbeth into a feudal Japanese setting
So the main backstory in the World of Greyhawk original is that 10 years prior to the module taking place: the Temple of Elemental Evil, which worshiped the destructive powers of the four elements as well as the demoness Zuggtmoy, queen of rot, set up outside of the village of Hommlet and began causing chaos throughout the viscounty of Verbobonc. Which is a province of the Archclericy of Veluna. Veluna called upon it's allies, the Kingdom of Furyondy and the City-State of Highfolk to defeat the Temple. Led by the forces of Prince Thrommel IV of Furyondy, they defeated the Temples forces and imprisoned Zuggtmoy in the Temple, in a battle which is now called the battle of Emrity Meadow.
The Mario conversion will be set far in the future of the Mario World.
Furyondy - Mushroom Kingdom
Veluna - Beanbean Kingdom
Highfolk - Numbus land
Thrommel - Mario and Peach's OC son(Both of them will also be fairly old, say around their 50s or 60s)
Zuggtmoy - Shadow Queen
Hommlet will be a small town in the Beanbean kingdom.
In both scenarios, the module starts about 10 years afterward the events of the Battle of Emrity Meadow and the adventurers arrive in Hommlet, where bandit attacks have been taking place. The church of St. Cuthbert/Eldstar convinces them to go investigate a nearby Moathouse which was once an outpost for Temple forces.
>>533581748That's some effortposting.
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>>533582909The only artists that draw a Peach I can fap to are Riz and Echosaber
>>533583052I don't know why this riz slop attracts so many agp trannies on /v/
>>533583220It's always the thicc stuff, too. Weird.
>>533584165I'm sorry you have to find out this way, but bimbo is inherently a tranny fetish.
I don't make the rules.
Where was k. rool during the September 11 New Donk City terrorist attacks?
>>533587668uhhh k rool was eating some rot in his humble abode of course (totally not a kremling)
>>533571512I'm warming up to the aesthetics you're using on Mario world mapping lore. Reminds me of ancient installed computer games I played long ago.
>>533589881It's a site called Inkarnate
Dip those Mario paintbrushes.
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