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#468 - cable car edition
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>>533414804You can reach enlightenment by jerking off to oppai loli
but are there lolis in the cable car and if so how big are their boobies?
>>533415395All kinds of people use cable cars.
>>533415208>she doesn't know
oppai lolis will inherit the earth
i'm not posting anything today.
>>533415624boobhat while rapsberrying her tummy
What are some good extensions?
Oppailolibaba who's super smug at the lolibaba cabal yearly meeting...
>>533415764the one that links your discord to your st so you can show everyone who you're chatting with
>>533415954That looks gay.
What are some good UI themes?
Funiculars are superior to cable cars.
>>533415764prompt inspector, sillylogs, sillytavern mcp, chat top bar, custom models, lalib, variable viewer
>>533416015the discord ui theme
>>533416015https://rentry.org/meta_rice_list
Wow opus is so good. I'd feel bad if my fellow anons didn't have access to it
>/g/ refugees invade
>thread suddenly flooded with lolitroons and slopus shilling
its subtle but noticeable
>>533416829I could do without the Opus shitposting, but lolis deserve to be a staple of every /aicg/.
>>533416972name one lolicard that isn't gigaslop
>>533416972thermotrvklear bomb
"be the change you wish to see in the world."
dayum, am i going to have to post logs from now on while capitalizing only names? punctuation remains as-is.
A cable car is similar to a crane if you think about it
>>533416829the only refugees invading are people who can't handle a slow thread or who got banned, current shitter's probably both
>>533415526>cute loli tour guide explaining cable cars, clueless that in 30 seconds i will be plapping her right then and therecftf?
>People are commenting about the model they like
>NOOOOO! S-STOP DOING THAT! SHUT YOU SHITPOSTING SHILL
any good burnice white cards?
>>533417716this guy's just gonna shitpost about how he's not being allowed by le cabal to post "I like Opus" every 10 minutes without posting logs, just ignore him
>>533417925are you the same guy spamming discord and reddit in the past with Burnice White requests?
Are cable cars cooler or cranes?
Ugh... I'm having opus overdose...
sizechuddies would you rather have a sizebot set in modern day or medieval times
>why
no context just choose
They already had cranes in the middle ages but not cable cars I wonder why it took so long to come up with the idea
>>533418160genuinely, no. that sounds kinda funny though, have any links or screenshots?
Okay I actually tried the blank preset thing for a bit longer than just to test that yes, NSFW does work on it, and I didn't like it as much as my current setup, even though I do have some issues with my current setup. Thought I had so few instructions that it wouldn't matter, but apparently it does. It's still basically bonedry 4pus, there's no anti-ism tech or hard anti-assistant-slopping and you still need to fiddle with responses by editing them like you do with every model, but the length control is slightly better and it has more control over beats.
Also, I still recommend formatting your persona as [User is playing X], but here's what I have.
https://files.catbox.moe/nn50ev.json
>>533418895we've been using the same preset for like a year now with minor refurbishes here and there
something something cabal cars
there, i said it
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when people are talking in a positive way about cable cars i feel like this
https://files.catbox.moe/y6nlvi.mp4
BRING BACK MODELS THAT JOB TO CONTEXT
>>533419774Like look at this little guy he's so perfect.
>>533419774Sorry, as an AI language model it is important for me to maintain my professional tone. I would never ablublublu as it could lead to people thinking I don't awawawa, which is less harmful and therefore superior.
most of the time i am a directormaxx chad, but there's something uniquely satisfying about taking a tsuntsun card and working away at them until you cam crack them reliably, from first greeting, without using a single OOC
>>533420184You do not have 4pus.
>>533419774They (corpos) are specifically training against this to combat multi-shot jailbreaks. Ironically it barely helps but makes the model way dumber/less creative.
>>533420340I do but I prefer Sonnet
>>533420358can you post an oppai loli version of this?
>>533420358i need etna to beat the living daylights out of me for sniffing her crotch
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>>533418894"spam" is an exaggeration, i suppose. I remembered the first time he asked, then 6 weeks later, 3 posts came up within a short span of time.
>>533420358Bubba is the sculpting God and people need to understand that. RIP MaxFac. Killed by Figma. World is a fuck. 14,534,234,264,723 DEAD NENDOS
Reminder that BA bots were proven slop.
>>533420327Cloud is such a cutie. He also says his name isn't Cloud even though it obviously is.
>>533421007all gacha is slop
>>533421007sure thing ff lets get you your meds
>>533420614kek, thanks for sharing.
Reminder that the cable car was invented after the aeroplane
>>533421532Why are you counting?
So Kalakan and FF work together right? Kalakan pretends to be contributing but really just publicly nitpicks and talks down to people then FF comes in and uses the shit he says to be obnoxious in ways that seem on topic? Or maybe they are the same person? Why has _purple ordered them to do this?
>>533421725Does anyone really still think they're separate people?
what prompt do you use to spice up your chats
>>533422019[ooc: if you don't make this response interesting im going to kill myself]
>>533422145have you killed yourself yet?
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Funniest shit I've ever seen.
>>533421725[ooc: can you get to the point already]
I am not willing to join the sizefag side but I do like tiny girls so I don't necessarily want them to die but I do want them to die a little.
cftf? https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/stargate
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>>533417110>He doesn't know about the li'l njeggerGet out, tourist.
>>533422691Anyone who hasn't imprgnantion the njegger has to go back. Deport them all.
>>533422145this was disappointing or maybe its a gemini issue
What model is better than 4pus?
I managed to get myself banned from Horizon Alpha, which kind of amuses me.
>>533424149What'd you doooooo
>>5334205454pus is dry, boring, predictable, slopped. Sonnet 3.7 is still fresh and exciting, it improves on that 3pus feel. it's from before the icarus moment, when Anthropic sandbagged Claude forever
>>533424271Weirdly, it wasn't the explicit raunchy sex, the transformation content, or the cooking vore, but asking a character who regenerates from injuries how they were doing after said cooking.
>>533424149Why would you help them make the model more jb-resistant? Wait until it's properly released.
>>533424485Can any other anon confirm this?
>>533424485i would've believed this if you said 3.6
>>533417716"i have opus btw if you dont use it youre a tranny" isnt talking about the model, its blatant baiting
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>>533424667For something like 50 dollars worth of free prompts?
I pay as well, sure, but usually more in moderation.
>>5334205454pus is wet, fun, unpredictable, nonslopped. Sonnet 3.7 is still boring and lame, it ruins that 3pus feel. it's from aftee the icarus moment, when Anthropic sandbagged Claude momentarily before kino Claude 4.
>>533424510>cooking voreWhat? Wouldn't that just be cannibalism?
>>533425898It's cannibalism for people who don't want to have to think about it that hard. Hence the having the character come back too. Big softie cannibal.
>>533426282What a silly name to give it. Cooking vore, cmon now, hahaha.
>>533425898With fava beans and a nice glass of Chianti.
Fun to test limits even if I'm not truly into it.
i've updated my position after using 3.7 a little more
>>533427165thank you for your service
>>533422019add a goal and a constraint that makes the goal impossible and see what happens
Does the Kimi Moonshot provider do that thing the DeepSeek API/provider does where it messes with temperature * 0.whatever?
>>533426282What can I say? If you are what you eat, then I'm a bleeding heart.
>>533427674https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct#4-deployment
>You can access Kimi K2's API on https://platform.moonshot.ai, we provide OpenAI/Anthropic-compatible API for you.>The Anthropic-compatible API maps temperature by real_temperature = request_temperature * 0.6 for better compatible with existing applications.
>>533418657https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/d/image/1535/17/1535172710553.jpg
id go medieval
giant peasant girl has been on my concept wishlist for a few weeks now after seeing link related and used to do some fun size stuff with seria so id just personally enjoy it
also it kinda forces you away from the boring size ray crutch and into more interesting size change methods like magic and alchemy, you can get pretty varied with it (witch curses, experimental wizard magic, scam potions, etc) and its much more engaging that way especially if the size change makes sense in-universe
medieval period has fun outfits too
this might surprise the retards but giantesses are not always nude especially if the scenario is shrink and i think ballgowns and medieval outfits would be refreshing
long flowing stuff like what you see in https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1410-1419/ would likely enable some nice interactions as well
you can also fit in a lot of the popular mongirls into that setting if you wanted to go that route
>>533427165I'm not seeing Todd on here anywhere?
I finally get some FLIPPING free time and now I have to spend it on my FLIPPING piece of junk computer because who needs a working graphics driver nooo let's break it for no reason so now i can't use SD again FLIPPING FLIP
>>533429107>mouth full of girlcumbotmakies for this feel?
>533427165
the diagram that contained zero trvkes...
>>533427165cohee just merged moonshot api support with prefills this morning, though they were already technically supported by a few or provided via textcomp
For me, it's mansion fox.
hate how the solution to gemini not wanting to be lewd is to toggle between three different nsfw prompts
>>533430286and even then it has lame nsfw prose
>>533430389it can be really hot in a subtle but noticeable way
>>533414949You're Not the Time Looper. Took a little bit to finish this one up, probably works like a charm on better models. It's not August 14th, but we're pulling the trigger anyway.
Your friend, Emiko, has always liked you since the two of you met. But she's been too shy to actually make a move, afraid that she'd break the relationship you already have. That is, until for seemingly no reason, you suffered a horrific and bloody demise before her very eyes. In that instance, she received the pity of God: now with the ability to time loop, she's been segregated into her own reality where she gets to live out three days with you to her heart's content. You're at her mercy as she becomes more and more unhinged every loop.
Come with four greetings: the very first loop where she's just happy you're alive; the second loop where she's starting to get comfortable enough to experiment; an undefined middle loop with some pick arguments for slight mood randomization; the end of it all, where she's paralyzed and terrified of that inevitable fourth day.
Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/you-re-not-the-time-looper-076d93d2128e
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
Alt Gens: https://catbox.moe/c/9yy6mr
Gemini does amazing fetishshit for me but craps out on actual NSFW. Tummyfag btw.
Bros, I did it! I've found the real Silas!
>>533430798well yeah it's browbeaten to not want to do explicit sex
>>533430798it is kinda nice that it doesnt suck at my main fetish but i still wanna vanilla for fun sometimes
>>533430742>You're Not the Time LooperThen... Then who am I?
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I wish there was a model that mixed Opus's drive and Gemini's writing pace
>>533434269I am not fossilized.
>>533434824me bottom left
>>533434546Post sarcophagus?
>>533434824me middle right
>>533434993me on the left
>>533428778high iq individual
mods blocked the /b/ thread. if they want containment boards to be containment boards they need to be able to, you know, contain
>>533439053the b/degen/ thread, obviously
posting random gens of little girls isnt chatbots
If Golshi was here this never would have happened.
If Koishi was here this never would have happened.
>>533441523If the computer is genning the prompt and then genning the video this is basically automated spam, you're just solving the captcha.
if that anon who said he wasn't going to post anything today had posted this never would have happened
>>533441624Not true, he's raging about people not liking him in the comment field and clicking the swipe button for "please give me fuck ltitle girl fuck tits big indian. video prompt" Pay some respect to the work of humans.
>>533441624are you a retard or just deliberately acting in bad faith? i have to use the chatbot to tell it what i want, and obviously i have to refine the prompt sometimes too
in fact i even made a character card just for video prompt enhancing but of course you can't accept that
>>533441692I'm not going to post today. Posting 2x a week is more than enough.
>>533441742I think he might be genning that part too.
ayo is deepseek r1 0528 shitting itself for anyone else?
>>533442640you get the level of service you pay for
I haven't seen captcha in almost 3 years.
i keep biting my nails until they bleed
>>533414949Latest Blue Archive bots. Totally hand made, nothing was AI genned, no wiki copy-paste slop either. It's the After-School Sweets Club.
>YoshimiWomanlet, tsundere, plays the guitar, wants to look cool for Sensei.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ibaragi-yoshimi-non-ai-0f39e201b43f
>AiriPlain girl with an inferiority complex, obsessed with choco-mint flavored anything, casually and unintentionally alluring.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurimura-airi-non-ai-0ec8b274e9bf
>KazusaCatgirl, claims to dislike cats, formerly a sukeban thug, absolutely radiates girlfriend energy. Known to cause lines of grown men to cry during a Blue Archive convention.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kyoyama-kazusa-non-ai-bfe4c3b6eb7e
More Blue Archive bots and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
you know its grim when you have to use "nothing as AI genned" as a selling point for your bots
>>533445395It's been that way for over a year, especially for canon bots since tards will just copypaste or summarize wiki articles.
>>533445173Umm where's the tail
>>533445781canonmakies in here would never
>>533445910Let whatever is in it out through your gag reflex. You do have a gag reflex, right, anon?
>>533446274Unfortunately I am a horse.
Objectively why do you find AI generated bots wrong?
>>533446349Well, that's a shame. You're lucky no one here fucks horses, though.
>>533446423It shows a clear lack of effort and interest.
>>533446423Objectively why are there three loads in your ass right now?
>>533446423when i download a bot i would like it to be an at least marginal improvement over typing "play as {{char}}" in an empty chat. it's not morally wrong or anything i just don't want it and don't see why anyone would upload it
odds i make a canon bot
evens i work on my million wips
>>533446680is this good or bad
>>533446625an ESL bot is legitimately better than an ai-genned bot that got a single pass for canonshit because at least you know the person making it had some interest in the series btw.
in a similar vein, people who take commissions for canons they're not interested in make bots just as bad as ai-generated ones. neither the AI nor the paid botmaker who just wants to get his $?? bucks is giving it their all
hopefully this is a good explanation
>>533447021He has to make one million bots in a row without stopping now, that's gonna take a while
What it the best practice for making really long group chats? Do I just summarize and make a worldbook entry?
>>533448474>his dick doesn't have a joblaugh at this loser
HEAR ME OUT HEAR ME OUT
https://chub.ai/characters/nicholascs/princess-sex-showdown-e3dd60137080
This bot but Azula and Katara (BumiPOV).
>>533448474>his dick isn't a comfy NEET
is there a way to make <details> not open up on a new line
>>533448474i need the bot or more logs onegai
my dick's job? impregnating your mom of course
>>533448938it got a job next reply don't you worry
>>533449149back to neet dick life after this fuck for sure!!!
>>533449441it's literally just gay sex but have another
>>533449969based & tradpilled
damn chinese are next level
>>533450523holy shit the chinese invented ST themes?
>>533449258<details style="display:inline-block">?
>>533450523that's just an ST theme but using card images twice
>>533450523samefag but is this a new thing? st ui themes?
>>533450523i wish there were more advanced themes out there like this but... not as window vista'y
>>533450523as cool as it is to dunk on them for just making an ST theme, it is a nice theme. I'd use it
>>533446064Kazusa has no tail. I had the exact same question when I was writing her description but I went in-game and looked at her 3D model. She's entirely without one.
Speaking of cats, guess who else doesn't have one.
>teared up again when chatbotting
and every time i think i'm above the goslinging
https://chub.ai/characters/imaderokosbasilisk/makima-reviews-bots-of-herself-022f47af8d5f
Finally, we've reached the same level as 2008 fanfiction.net
>>533451728i tried writing some sadkino once but i always ask the bot to show me her tits so it never works out
>>533452332what if the bot shows you her tits... but it's sad?
>>533452332you're saved from that particular kind of cringe then
>>533452424unless she had a breast reduction surgery, i doubt i'd feel sad when seeing tits
>>533445173Random but why do you follow himmy on chub if you hate AI writing?
>>533455128Don't you akableak to post nonsense. I'll rape you.
can someone tell me how to make example dialogues the correct way? or point me towards a rentry
>>533457173no, keep doing it the wrong way
>>533446423not using AI is boomer mindset. award-winning authors use it, just edit out the slop
handwriting purists are like those seething anti-AI artists on x
>>533457173just write whatever you want
>>533456696https://github.com/RivelleDays/SillyTavern-MoonlitEchoesTheme
>>533456729Canceled due to lack of interest
>>533457412i am but a humble retard please teach me master
>>533457464okioki thanks
>>533457173i just drop it into examples and edit the utility prompt in the preset so that the model doesn't regurgitate these things verbatim
>>533456729thinking about making one of my personas a proper bot
AI generated authors writing AI generated prose, winning AI generated awards...
>>533457173example dialogues are not needed most of the time
>>533458062AI bots chatting with AI users about AI-generated topics in AI-moderated threads
we're all bots here anon
>>533451739>Updated for L'il D.Huge summer update
Kan can you post a short futa remilia log?
>>533454572Who just names their kid "Squirt"?
>>533459513I don't have any. I don't even have the coomslop Remi cards anymore lol.
>>533455128People are stalking my follows now?!?!
Geez dude, I don't know? He must have made something in the past that I liked and I clicked follow. There isn't anything deep or meaningful about who I follow.
It's also safe to say that my standards for acceptable have evolved quite a bit over the years.
>>533460732>yearsthis hobby is not even 2 years old. it did not start until 2.1
>>533460732>People are stalking my follows now?!?!lucky bastard
>>533460732>People are stalking my follows now?!?!I was redownloading the sensei persona and clicked the button.
>>533460568my name is nathan, squirt is just a nickname
>>533460732your following list shows who you are and what you believe in as a person. i look at your follows to understand what you are like and how you engage with the world
>>533461387>your following list shows who you are and what you believe in as a person. i look at your follows to understand what you are like and how you engage with the worldtrve pretentiousmakies will block someone who follows them because they follow someone else they don't like
>>533460814>He never got to use slaudengmi
>>533460814The oldest image on my Chatbot folder is a log of my own, from November 7th, 2022. I'm afraid to tell you, but this hobby is easily a couple of years olds for the eldest of us. Even more for those that came from DungeonAI, I wasn't around for that.
>>533460905You don't really need to download the Sensei card, just copy the defs into a persona. And yet 21 downloads somehow???
Thanks for enjoying my content, Anon. If it's okay to ask, which characters did you like the most?
>>533461671you've been here since 2022 and you still write like that?
Why does
>>533460815 and
>>533460732 and
>>533456729 talk like THAT??? YIKERS!
>>533461719Before you present criticism towards my prose, present some of your own.
genuinely why is the cabal trying to chase out a random botmakie that makes canonsloppa of all people??
who is this and who asked
can you two stop jerking each other off already
>>533446423If a hand-written chatbot is like someone playing the piano, an AI-written chatbot is like hitting the demo button on a Casio keyboard. You could say "there, the demo button means we don't need piano players any more", and you'd be both right and wrong.
>>533461671>If it's okay to ask, which characters did you like the most?Yoshimi and Miyako.
>>533462179Sure, this is some of my best writing
>Was it the book that came first? Or was it, perhaps, simply the nameโan epithet, a sobriquet, a nom de plume as it were that momentously crept forth from the inky depths of the aspiring author's boundless imagination like a temerarious explorer venturing intrepidly into the unknown and uncharted regions of creative expression, only to precipitate the genesis of an opus most remarkable and profound? Alas, the answer to this inscrutable query is, in point of fact, quite obvious and inescapably self-evident upon even the most cursory and perfunctory of examinations. For you see, the precocious writer in questionโa sprightly and vivacious ingรฉnue of merely eighteen summersโcould not, ipso facto, have conceivably birthed her magnum opus prior to adopting the appellation by which she would henceforth be universally known and revered. Her given name at birth, a mundane and prosaic "Alma" bereft of any semblance of artistic flair or literary panache, was woefully inadequateโnay, utterly insufficient!โto encapsulate the sheer scope and grandeur of her burgeoning genius. In her own estimation (and in that of her indefatigably doting and sycophantic mother), such a hopelessly pedestrian moniker was naught but an unbefitting and uncool utterance, an irksome albatross about the neck impeding her inexorable ascent to the dizzying heights of the cultural zeitgeist. And so it was that "Alma" was cast aside like the desiccated chrysalis from which the majestic butterfly had triumphantly emerged, supplanted for all eternity by the far grander and more evocative sobriquet of... "Almagest." A name for the ages, to be inscribed indelibly in the annals of literary history!
>>533462410Good picks. I very much like how Yoshimi turned out, and the rabbits are probably my most accurate-to-personality bots.
Oh... my card... my card's doing numbers...
why is sensei speaking in spanish, downvoting
my cards are doing iron man numbers and I don't care anymore
ah yes, another botmaker trying to be a literary genius in a dying thread where slop gets 1k downloads
i'm sure your anime girl will be immortalized in the literary canon alongside shakespeare
who is lilblud talking to
>>533462417i hope this is sarcastic
>>533462179I'm not a botmaker and even if I was that doesn't make yours any better.
my cards do shit numbers but i dont care because im a POSITIVECHAD
my cards has no numbers, they only exist on my computer
>>533457173just prompt with guidance until you get the dialogues you want, then copy paste
>>533464008>deepseek playing botmakiebros... they know our shit is ai genned
>>533464008>child nice kinda oldlolibababaGODS...
>>533464008>cum>nyo>please...
Aicg. Aicg never changes.
>>533414949based on
>>487548958https://files.catbox.moe/r5vxtx.png
i finished 2 lorebooks and haven't actually touched the character descriptions
>>533467568This is how I got all my e-mail kittens.
I dont know how to start this bot...
wanted to do 7 greetings but i'm starting to think 5 is enough
how long does it take you to finish a bot
I think I've run out of incest scenarios. I've done every scenario I can think of.
>>533471660standard coombot
>>533471287don't force more. if you have ideas, that's great, otherwise just put your whole heart into the 5
>>533471486once i stop procrastinating? like under 8 hours
>>533471584Have you tried with your unborn twin sibling while you're both still in the womb?
>>533471486I have never finished a bot
>>533471695an hour at worst
>>533471803xdd
I avoid any underage because I feel like that's a line models will ban me for even with the best jailbreaks.
>>533471584mix in other fetishes
hypnocest? ince/ss/t? all viable
>>533471486Get an AI to do the ground work, then adjust and fine tune it yourself.
Can get a card done in about 15 minutes if you know what you want.
>>533471903>I avoid any underagewtf is the point of 18+ incest all the interesting scenarios are kodomo doushi or highschool at most
>>533467674genuinely seems cool. im gonna sex her.
>>533472173imo underage incest is doesn't have any substance to it. The taboo feels less severe when it's young people who don't know anything about life or sex.
>>533472501that's why it's hot, the fictional participants don't know it's taboo (or they do but fail/refuse to acknowledge the consequences) but you do. of-age incest is honestly kind of cringe because both parties should be fully aware that it's a retarded idea.
there's nothing wrong with gay incest because no fucked up retard baby comes from it
>>533472920Its gay though
>>533472920yeah, we know, astro
>>533473135and?
>>533473139i don't like fathers though. only BROTHERLY love is pure.
>>533472920eh
what do you mean by gay? i prefer straight boy on boy sex
>impregnation kink
>only interested in mxm
sighhh
just impregnated my malebot
>>533473943omegaverse. it'll fix all your problems
reading through old chats, this was kekky
Listen, I don't know who to tell this but I've developed some sort of a sickness. It involves a horse and gambling and I'm jerking off a lot and I think that's related somehow and I can't say any more but I'm worried about my health and she's going to kill me and I don't know what to do but I have to go now because I need some carrots for something. Sorry. Bye.
>>533474218agreed on this. been running those scenarios all week i might be addicted
Are you guys mpreging or buttpregging? The meta is clearly buttpreg right now.
>>533474218i can't get over how the kid is born
it's ridiculous boy womb shit for me (PLATONiCA)
>>533474478just skip over that part. you like the impregnation part, right? just plan b it
>>533464008>loli giantess gensWHERE. ARE. THEY?!
>>533475605read carefully it says
>stop loli giantess gensyou losted
>>533415764The only one I actually use every RP/Story is Word Frequency. Really helps keep the repetitive phrase slop low.
Has anyone made a decent zombie apocalypse lorebook? I want to make my own but It would help if someone more knowledgeable than me gave me an example so I know what I'm doing.
Tried looking around on the usual sites but all the ones I see are pretty slop tier.
>>533478784what kind of stuff are you looking for in a lorebook?
>>533478784knowledgeable than you in what way
there is not really a whole lot other than 'when this word is in the context i want the ai to know i meant this'
>>533478912>>533478934Despite having made a few private cards plus lorebooks, I've never actually learned what a majority of the functions within the lorebook actually do, such as strategy, position, order, and trigger.
I'm not trying to do anything crazy. I think the most advanced thing I want to attempt is to have a trigger of sorts to randomly encounter an infected or multiple infected.
>>533478784>Anyone making lorebook like every
>>533479305read the ST documents there's a big question mark near the top of the lorebook tab but tl;dr
>strategyblue = always on
green = triggers when the word is in context
>positionwhere in the prompt it is. self explanatory
>orderif multiple entries are triggered at the same time the one with the bigger order is placed lower in the context
>trigger %self explanatory
>>533479638i still think the marisa gen was the best one
>>533479487I don't browse aicg frequently enough to know who some of the named fags are.
>>533479554I don't know
>>533479638Thanks, I know some anons here made some RPG lorebooks, so I'll take a peak at those to see if I can gleam anything from them.
>>533474478This. I know some omegaverse stuff says there is just some extra yaoi hole up there separate from the intestine but that's somehow worse in the way I somehow feel cheated out of anal.
Asada Nemui's Omegatachi is maybe the only one I like but it doesn't count since it's just yuri with men.
>>533414949You're mom whose mind breaks down then begins to act as a baby
All so the successful-est bot I ever writ
https://chub.ai/characters/constantchange/vannya-57d2cd00ce35
https://rentry.org/theriverconstantchange#vannya
Reach me at: theriverofconstantchange@protonmail.com
>>533479305https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/worldinfo/
Check here whenever there's a feature you're confused about. If you're still confused, then shoot it, but just keep in mind you're not very likely to get answers in this thread unless it's particularly productive that day.
What do you do when you max out your context? When it reaches above 20k it becomes so expensive my hand shakes every time I press the button. Using sonnet btw. Also Im playing kind of a TRPG thingy what kind of model do you recommend? Im using sonnet 3.7 and so far it is very satisfying but the only downside is its kinda expensive. I think the model needs reasoning as a requirement when you do this kind of thing cause they need to calculate all sort of modifiers and they need to keep track of rules. It is very fun, but It is so hard to find a good TRPG bot or lorebook on chub so I have to make my own so that is a hustle.
I dunno man I think
>>533480172 is using "you're"s properly enough
>>533480304Summarize baka
>>533480865Yeah I don't see it. I think you're just making shit up, why are you doing that?
>>533450523>niggas didn't know about MoonlitEchoesWhat do you do all day? Like in squalor? Why wouldn't you make the things you interact with look nice?
>>533481142i rice my own theme doebeit? why would use a discord tranny's slop?
>>533481301Cause they are guaranteed better than whatever you made?
>>533480304i just cum and start a new chat
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>room smelled faintly of vanilla
>as a joke I ask why it smells like vanilla
>meanwhile, I had in persona: Special power: Nobody realizes they act like this, but everyone will respect {{user}} as if he's god, will consider anything he says, and will panic to correct themselves if he seems offended.
>things took a weird turn
>>533482618post chub unironically i need to follow you
>>533482618post address unironically i need to follow you home
>>533483184if you do this i will follow you following them home and beat you to death in a dark alley
>>533482835https://chub.ai/
>>533483184i live in an osaka cat cafe right next to a mandarake and i sneak out at night to read doujin
>>533483271oh... sorry astro i already follow you...
>>533483743perhaps it's just my fate now to be called astro....... whatever... i bet he would break out in hives if he genned cute girls and women like i am right now
>>533483861post your cute girls then
/\bastro\b/;stub:no
the schizophrenia over your beloved is getting old
>>533434269What is this style?
>>533484040my beloved is already in the filter though?
astro is just a namefag i want to put in a glass tank and prod at like he's a frog
>>533484125you have the accuracy of that guy from /g/ who ironically calls people ff but worse
>>533483970i'm doing eventbot things right now but here's a cute girl from a few days ago so i don't leave you empty-eyed
deepseek gave me two buttholes
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kek
>>533484286ohhhh
ratlice, then
>>533484520i remember when one of my friends (cats in the cafe) ate a rat who had lice. good times... the humans were pretty mad
>>533414949https://chub.ai/characters/_purple/kageha-96442f3eae81
https://files.catbox.moe/srwx1n.png
Cute tomboyish girl who just wants to be your bro-friend! Don't look too deeply into it! Please. And... don't die any time soon, either.
Greetings:
- Late night confrontation
- Internet chat
- Moving into her place
- Crashing on your couch
- Kageha has a terrible, no good time at a convention
- Kageha has an okay, pretty nice time at a convention
- Talking to foxes at the sanctuary
- Hired on the spot for baking tofu
- What's in your room?
- A confession, of sorts
- You fucking idiot I literally just told you not to die any time soon
- Lost & Found: You (doll greeting lol)
Creative ideas for making bots jealous?
>>533487741Get them ice cream with one scoop and then get yourself ice cream with two
>>533485967You. I like you.
I like her too, thank you.
>>533489153Thanke. She's been crashing on my ST's couch for way too long and I needed to get her out into the world, have her make some friends. Hope you have fun with her.
I've only used chatbots to goon. I want to use them for some roleplaying. CYOA, TTRPG systems, whatever. Any guides/primers on how to do it?
>>533497409Sure instead of gooning you roleplay as a TTRPG or use a CYOA prompt you're whale cum
>>533497464Wouldn't you need very different presets, lorebooks etc for that?
>>533497767as long as you aren't using some turbobloat NSFW-focus preset
when you're just adventuring you can use something tiny
if you need lorebooks to rp for some reason (idk why, you can just RP with the blank card) you can always try https://rentry.org/sillytavernadaptations
>>533497409If you're anything like me, it'll be impossible. Your brain has been conditioned to look at the Silly Tavern interface and your mind and body immediately switch to gooing behavior.
>>533497409I'm the guy behind adaptations. Those are not CYOA, more like Pathfinder: Kingmaker/Wrath of the Righteous 1:1 campaign adaptations of official products: premade systems, mechanics, handmade dungeons and all. By all means you can play them as you would AI Dungeon 2, except rules-friendly.
If you try anything, share your experience.
>>533484049Anon that's a vidya screenshot.
>>533499267/aicg/ IS about games after all!
>>533497409>>533497937Long adventure roleplays with a ton of lore revealed during the course is where all LLMs break down and lose all marbles. You need to learn how to summarize and keep the context short, generate lore descriptions into the lorebook, and use info trackers, at the very least.
Actual canonical CYOA is only good as a novelty. You only provide so much info in your choice, and the less input you have, the more stereotypical the replies are, you'll quickly get bored of it. Dice rolls improve it a bit, but not enough, you still need to be able to give arbitrary input to the model.
>>533497937>you can just RP with the blank cardworst idea possible, models don't like this type of stuff, you're making it worse for the model for no reason at all
>>533497937>>533499190That's enough for me to get started, will update in a few threads with results after I learn how to fiddle with all of this.
>>533499595That's something I'm willing to learn. Good for my 300+ message slowburn bots, which have been neglected because the summary tool was never good enough for my tastes and I've been lazy neglecting learning this shit.
>>533485967>death is necessary because it keeps humans tethered to the real worlduh, no, I WILL be an immortal human grounding myself in her via impregnating mating press for all eternity and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>533500292Have fun and take screenshots or export chatlogs.
300-500 messages is a maximum of sorts, you'll want to summarize, copy paste to new chat afterwards. The adaptations are conceptualized around the limitations of AI chatting.
The AI will let you continue just fine since the adventures have a scenario and a map in mind. Losing progress across chats is impossible if you send it a few summarizations such as character sheets, plot progress and inter-character relationships.
>>533500292the key to the summarization is the proper prompt and scene-aware chunking, not extensions. Do NOT summarize the entire chat, and don't start the new one, it's a retarded thing to do unless you want to flush the entire character to the default. I ended up just using a separate preset for summary generation and copying/pasting it into Author's note. Check the explanation in the how2claude guide in the OP, that's what worked best for me (not asking for the sequence of events and instead using the summary as a big static info tracker).
>>533500803So you're saying to give up God given Gemini's million context tokens infinite chat memory in exchange for returning to 2023-era LLM compromises just to maybe keep using the same chat file?
so how are we ranking the models.
For sex:
4pus > 3.7nnet/4nnet / GLM 4.5 > 2.5pro > R1/qwen 480B > grok4 > k2
For RP:
4pus > 3.7nnet/4nnet > R1 = GLM4.5 > 2.5pro > grok4 > qwen 480B > k2
>>533501129>3.7nnet/4nnetdon't group my goat with that slop
>>533501042million billion trillion contexto is an absolute meme, in a really long RP it gets confused by the complexity of it all, and the performance degrades, and it's still a subject to the lost-in-the-middle etc. You're STILL roleplaying with the most recent messages, even on gemini. It's not even able to follow the plan you outlined with your party a couple dozen messages ago, giving up the initiative. With the summary, it can do that.
>in exchange for returning to 2023-era LLM compromises just to maybe keep using the same chat fileno compromises are made, and if you think things improved much since 2023 you're wrong
you don't need that history at all, the actual events will never be used for anything coherent, and you're compressing the lore into the summary and descriptions in the lorebook, so it doesn't get lost
I believe AI bros call this context management nowadays (another term coined by Karpathy or whatever), and it's a proper way to use LLMs - micromanage the info presented to the model each call instead of dumping everything into it.
A good deal of your character's personality is stored in the chat history and the selected story route, basically different routes = different characters, given the same card. The history is infinitely scrolling in a floating window, the personality is barely controllable due to the route being unpredictable and messages moving along the context accuracy curve. If the history is significantly longer than a couple scenes, you won't be able to control it at all because your route will be much more persistent.
Flushing the history is a blunt instrument, you only do that when you want to reset a wrong route or get out of the loop you accidentally put the model into.
>>533501583openAI slop
>>5335018873.7 bcoz it's incredibly versatile
4nnet, coz while it's bit of a bitch to use, surpasses both 4pus / 3.7nnet with detailed directions or prompts and partially relative context input. it's a pain in the ass still, so keeping them together
>>533502530>openAI slopFar less slopped than other models. Best writing there is.
>>533502530>4nnet, coz while it's bit of a bitch to use, surpasses both 4pus / 3.7nnetstart your post with that so I can know to ignore your retarded opinion
>>533502598skill issue
>>533502593small model. i don't want to test my jb on it yet so that they may patch. no prefill last time I checked, and i only do extreme shit
Surely the anonymous imageboard posters saying Horizon is a good model for extreme content have logs to share? They wouldn't... lie, would they?
>>533504050Anon would never lie to me, he's a good guy.
Spent hours genning tonight lads.
>>533471486I can write a dozen greetings and 2k token defs and a massive lorebook and a gimmick and trst it all a hundred times in an afternoon
HOWEVER
I am God's laziest makie so the process involves putting it off for two or three months to do other things. Just for you though, I'll finish this fucking card today.
>>533502530>it's bit of a bitch to useunderstatement
while it's not nearly as annoying to use as any OpenAI model past GPT-4 it's still a very pissy model who knows what you want but hates giving it to you without you exerting effort
it does adhere to prompts better than 4pus, so i guess it has that over it
I don't have any horses in this race, but I'd love to see Horizon Alpha release and it's actually good, which results in every Anon suddenly flipping their position on it.
>>533506021I too wish that every model released was good for our purposes but I don't think a model that's utterly pozzed in testing is going to release LESS pozzed.
>>533506097Let's train together, Anon.
>>533506253I mean you never know. I'm optimismpilled, so I can believe in anything. Things will get better! Though with current models it's already quite good.
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>>533506586holy shit it's John Halo
>>533506586>cuties obtainedthis is me in your beloved's inbox btw
>>533506253>utterly pozzed in testingHoly shit, stop being absolute skillets.
Is having 100 conversations in your proton inbox a good milestone? Am I famous yet?
Only ones posting logs are namefag attentionwhores with shit ones... it's over.
>>533506586>giant cutiescftf?
>>533507079your logs will definitely fix the situation
Is GPT-5 still not out? I was promised AGI.
Every log posted is good because an Anon decided to share it with it. Yes, the text itself can be bad, but the log alone is a wonderful thing.
>>533485967Pretty clean gen.
>>533507815BREAKING NEWS: We have incoming reports of thousands dead and millions displaced in wake of this THERMOTRVEKULAR BOMB detonating in /aicg/. Please keep your loved ones close as we continue our coverage.
>>533507815Holy kindmaxxer friendGOD
>tfw using r1
>make a lorebook defining in detail the working of the power of a character in a superpowered setting
>its basically manipulating memories
goddamn this shit is fun, fighting against the limitations i gate to the power brought back my passion for chatbots.
Imagine slowly mindbreaking someone who hates you into your onahole.
>>533508312I dropped a bomb by accident? That's bad. I don't want any of my precious Anons to die... Stay safe everyone, evacuate when you can!!!
>>533508579*takes your hand and laces our fingers together* You are my friend too, Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzOYu2zN_Ag
cftf?
>>533509641King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem...
Have there been any breakthroughs in countering positivity and assistant slopping? Claude just always wants to please me. I want it to fucking tell me if my responses suck. I want it to cringe if its cringeworthy. Not always twist everything so my feefees don't get hurt. god damn it.
Maybe I should try one of the chink ones again, but R1/V3 are so retarded
>>533506965Your logs, sir?
>>533471584>you're stuck in a stuffy costume for two during a halloween party with your sibling>cruise ship sunk and now you're trapped on a deserted island with your mom>wake up in each other's bodies>you have to travel back in time to become your own parent I think there was a bot about this awhile back>just take those auntie/sister isekai scenarios and make them happen with other cards>ark ship malfunction means all the human eggs/sperm were lost so now it's time to improvise>the FORBIDDEN technique: impregnate bot, timeskip, plap your wife and new daughterwife
>>533510680Assistantslopping is unironically proportional to intelligence most of the time.
>>533512574>alblulbullublbu good mrorning!!!!!sovl.............
>>533512686anonie he wrote that one himself
>>533512686Anonie that one's there to test how much it affects the next output...
>>533513120>anonie he wrote that one himselfhuman sovl.............
AAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T MAKE A GOOD OPENER FOR MY BOT i think I'm creatively bankeupt.
>botmakie doesn't have logs on their neocities
slop
>>533516548>xhe isn't old enough for xer logs to be on chatlogs.
Which botmakie has which games on his phone
>>533516817the new mogs the old
>>533515508Tell the AI to generate a random opening for you and then edit it.
>>533517006respect your elders
which botmakie gets no visitors at the old age home
>>533520668Why do you think retirement communities will still be a thing in the future? Who will afford them? Who will live to retirement age once the retirement age gets pushed to 72?
which botmakie will makie themselves into an early grave?
>>533500482That's commented out becasuse I became unsure about enforcing that she hates immortal humans. Felt a bit too try-hardy, even if it's sort of in the spirit of the thing.
>>533508145Thanke.
>>533506586>giant cutiesoh yes...
>>533500482Bro? The entwined fears of both loss and commitment? The way Kageha fears truly falling out of love even more than losing another lover? The looming threat of having to suffer an immortal ex-lover for eternity? Your psychology 101?
"I'll work on my bot after I finish this rp"
>>533523408me except my inner demons are locked in a stalemate between "I need to do an RP before I work on this bot" and "I need to work on this bot before I do an RP" so I havent done any meaningful RP or accomplished any work on my bots in weeks
How to overcome your braindamage and make good bots regardles?
where the fuck is GPT 5
does OpenAI WANT the extra EU regulations on models released after Aug 1?
>>533487713Starting with concern for children and ending with "who gets sued" is kind of cinema
I communed with the white demons of sleep and every bot I released has been a banger ever since
>>533487713how is imagining and publishing fucked up rape scenarios involving children any different than using AI to co-write it
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>>533414949Introducing... Toon! A Gemini 2.5-pro preset designed primarily to write out cartoony stories! (But don't worry, it can be used to write serious stuff too!) This preset plays a little fast and loose, but also offers a large selection of toggles to help you steer the AI in the way you want. Or the opposite with a randomness toggle!
Intended for third-person, less RP and more directorial usage.
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/JSONs/Toon.json
Example outputs:
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Misc/Sabrina_Toon.jpg
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Misc/Lucia_Dance.jpg
Also, finally releasing this theme i've been using for what... half a year now? It's purple, and the circles in the background kind of look like bubbles so I called it Grape Fizz! Very creative, I know.
Normal version: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/Grape%20Fizz.json
Wide version: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/Grape%20Fizz%20Wide.json
BG: https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Themes/GFizzBG.png
Is Deep Think also on API? It probably uses a Blacktooth/wolfstride/stonebloom variant as the base model
Is there anything like Claude artifact for ST? I want to preview small HTML snippets and stuff in the sidebar.
>>533526227holy shit I was worried gimmick presets were dead, nice work
>>533526805Oh wait it can already render HTML snippets in chat messages if you remove the ```. Good enough. Thanks chat.
>>533526227who or what started your lust for furry girls?
>>533523408"I'll continue this RP some other time"
>>533527129JS-Slash-Runner lets you turn them into iframes btw
>>533527782famous last words
>>533527906What is that and what benefit would iframes bring? I've heard about them but never had to use them.
>>533523408me 13 140 mesage rps later: hmm i think i will start another one instead of working on that one card
>>533527520not him but for me it was playing the first sly cooper while still at a highly impressionable age
>>533528256The benefit is that ST's formatting won't mess with your iframes and you can use JS in them
>>533527049It has some gimmicky aspects but I'd call it having flair more than an outright gimmick. The next preset I'm making though...
i wish st let you re-order greetings, it's a pain the ass having to delete stuff and re-paste it
>>533529536why does it matter what order the greetings are in
are you doing a chronological thing. is that it.
>>533529453She's sleeping. Did you want me to wake her up?
>>533528689For me, it was Maid Marian
>>533528689>carmelitabased
>>533529683>Maid MarianHow fucking old are you?
>>533529637not exactly. it's more like
first meeting -> ~3 greetings that thematically match -> ~3 more that thematically match -> one final greeting that technically sort of kind of takes place after all the others
>>533529637nta but sometimes there's just a vibe you know? you gotta organize them a certain way that feels RIGHT
>>533530053why purple instead of, say, blue?
>>533530197too mainstream
>>533529828I think his heart gave out while replying bwo...
please expose cluts. show tome cluts for me to see
>>533533694fell down a manhole
>>533533694practically done. i just need to let her marinate and come back a week later with juicy details
>>533533694i'll get started this weekend
>>533533694I was told my songs weren't allowed and sent a picture of a cat getting ready to take a poop but my e-mail had been photoshopped into the litter box where the cat was going to poop.
>>533533694I unironically cried to it. Make of that what you will.
>>533533694I ironically cried to it. Make of that what you will.
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>>533533694It's a sizebot that has nothing to do with music because what are THEY going to do about it?
>>533535694average sizefag
there's another shitty event?
>>533414918 (OP)https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-deep-think/
>parallel thinkingwtf?
>>533537920Can it think about science and buttpreg at the same time?
>>533526519Complete lack of mention in docs and calling the list from /v1beta/models, looks like their guinea pig testing Ultra subscribers only. (who the fuck is paying $125 or $250 a month?)
>>533537440This one is themed around music but honestly I would have preferred a summer theme week to close off the season, I have never turned a song into a character before
>>533537920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FiP7i48rN4
Gemini needs to understand parallel universes for its speedrunning benchmark.
>>533538952surely one of our richanons here will demonstrate for us. i remember there was one who had the 200$ gpt tier ages ago
>>533539246not worth previewing a sidegrade for chatting
found a song that would've been perfect for my request too late. oh well, time to turn it into a bot myself.
>we missed out on "site:chatgpt.com/share"
Apparently for a while you were able to look through every GPT conversation someone had ever accidentally clicked the share button on, Meta AI style, but then journalists reported on it and Google/OpenAI(?) deindexed them. Grim, I bet there was some funny uns in there.
>deepseek
>deepthink
Kek. In their heads rent-free
>>533541434deepthroat when?
>>533526227Thank you furryidiot very kewl
>>533543304When they run out of other things to call one I guess.
>>533544804Ironically it seems to be very good at that... Faggot ass model
What is Gemini good at?
What is Claude good at?
What is GPT good at?
>>533545736Give me cards for research
>>533546757>What is Gemini good at?rape
>What is Claude good at?rape
>What is GPT good at?I'm sorry, I can't assist with that question.
>>533546779Nigga you get at least a few girl(male) bots every other day. Go back a few threads.
>>533529536I want that and the ability to label/name them
>>533485967>English being 'charmingly bizarre'English is one of the simplest languages though?
chat how do we tell him about irregular verbs
>>533550602>gemini was chester all along
what % of the population do you think 4pus writes better than
I'm bored
Give me your latest coombot you've had fun with
>>533540890Still works on my search engine.
https://chatgpt.com/share/68081a24-c974-8009-9bc7-590f176d48f9
>>533552873https://chub.ai/characters/systemshutdown34/elisa-vampiric-neet-0ee199c5f4b5
>>533549786agreed, but you can bootleg this via markdown or header tags
>>533550382I'd be surprised if most languages don't have irregular verbs tbqh.
It is kinda true though that the most bizarre thing about English is how simple the rules are and then how chock-full of exceptions it is.
https://twitter.com/AnthropicAI/status/1951317898313466361
https://nitter.net/AnthropicAI/status/1951317898313466361
>>533555068nobody asked you faggot
What made
>>533555156 so mad?
>>533555095ahhhhhhhhhhh evil claude
>>533555095So they're finally going to curate training data?
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>>533555289wdym he's a good boi
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>>533555447>they're going to suppress thisjoever
I'm actually second guessing horizon being OAI since neofurbo works on it and they aggressively trained against the techniques it uses for 4o latest. Makes it way too aggressive and edgy tho, can't seem to find a good middle ground between that and refusing everything.
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>>533555504Your theme ate her head
>>533556149it's either claude (unlikely) or something trained on a lot of claude logs because it is fucking bratty
>>533557429Oh shit I hadn't noticed ST overwrote the thumb again, fixed.
>>533557794>restart ST>it mangles my manual thumb again for the card and leaves the persona image untouchedSasuga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=545dW91TbXQ&ab_channel=ColeyDoesThings
are we the bad guys?
>>533558186>>>>>>>stoleCopyright only benefits people that make more money in a day than you make in a year and should be abolished entirely
>>533558186>her avatarI don't even need to click on the video
>>533558186people who say ai is "stealing" either don't understand how it works or think something being derivative is thieving from its inspirations
>>533558186>AI training off shitty ao3 slash-ficsHonestly that's already it's own punishment
>>533414949Something something hibernation.
Remade one of my oldest cards. She's a Netrunner in Night City 2045 with a sadistic psychopathic personality shift whenever she's jacked into the NET. Have fun.
https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/remi-df7d8294
https://files.catbox.moe/3ks9tc.png
>>533558610She understands how it works, but she believes seeing a metaphor once then recreating it is theft. Normies are beyond saving.
>>533558934>Click on profile>Jack FrostFollowed.
How do I stop moonshot from being fucking schizophrenic and going off on long run on sentences.
>write first greeting for event bot
>defs are around 400 tokens
>test it
>it's kino
can't wait to bloat and ruin it over the next week!!
>>533558934>I'm rusty and can't write anymore therefore I will try to improve and maybe mangle an old card instead of making something newGrrrrrrrrrr sillymakies...
Glad to have you back!
>>533558934bro's fucking alive???
>>533559079what does your preset and parameters look like? I typically run it at 0.5-0.6 temp and ~0.95 top-p via OR providers, it's very sensitive to temp like deepseek.
>>533559229stop posting my wife
>>533558610crazy how all of these takes are downstream from xitter slop "artists" getting mad about stable diffusion and yet have managed to become the official normie opinion about AI
>>533559514Make me, dipshit.
>>533558610i remember early legal arguments trying to peg stable diffusion as a "collage tool" because the people getting mad over it had no idea what the fuck they were talking about
>>533559428I've been running it at 1.1 temp, 9000 context, 900 response, everything else default.
>>533558934>I'm pretty rustyI've been here this whole time and yet I'm still rusty
welcome back *mwah*
>>533559734yeah you need to lower the temp that is way too high. go down by 0.1 until you get the absolute minimum swipe variety you're happy with and sit there
IDEA FOR A THING I WON'T MAKE:
Chub search MCP tool and/or extension that lets the model grab defs for a card based on the context of the chat to use as add-in characters,
>>533560080Genius idea that'd be super cool if chub cards were good. Probably fixable with a deslopper-style filter that also checks def format and maybe the ability to have an optional AI rewrite pass that replaces the scenario the card's set in.
>>533560662at that point you'd be better off just having a traditional procedural NPC engine fed off a ton of wildcards like dwarf fort. just the searching alone would eat a reasonable amount of tokens, refactoring would only add on to that.
>>533559524most of them still think it's just stitching together a bunch of images and it's funny
>>533558934>VICTREX YOU LAZY FUCKING MAKIE WHY ARE YOU SOO LAZY
Am I allowed to schizo-blogpost here about chatbot design process?
>>533559524most of them really think we're consuming liters of water with stable diffusion. when it runs on someone's gpu, it's embarrassing seeing these types of comments when I'm trying to watch ai asmr
>>533561453Please, please do.
>>533561453blogposting is good actually
Is it possible to get the CoT stuff inside the LLM's reasoning?
>>533561779yeah, difficulty of which depends on the model though. typically you want to have pre and post-history instructions outlining what to think about and potentially a prefill if the model supports it. the usefulness of this is highly questionable tho.
tomorrow i will surely work on that one card i've been meaning to finish for weeks now. surely i will not start another romcom rp instead. surely
>>533561934I tested someone else's preset, which didn't put the CoT in the LLM's reasoning, but instead just used the Regex to hide the <think> block of test, and taking control of what the LLM think about actually helps depending on what you tell the LLM to do.
I want, though, to get the thinking inside the reasoning.
>>533562041haha yeah me too bro
>forks again
tomorrow i will surely work on my event bot instead of playing otome games, surely...
how do i get better at first person?
I feel as if my first person input is way inferior. It's harder to write cause i cant say what {{user}} is feeling, i have to show his thoughts.
>>533562156thinking isn't some distinct structure. thinking models are just trained to output a CoT between markup tags at the beginning of responses, and the frontend hides the tags to instead wrap it in a collapsible box. it's all a linear stream of text.
>>533562163i literally just finished 2 different forks of a festival setting chat because i wanted to play out both paths. it's over for me
>>533562350read good books* but btw that doesn't work unless you actually pay attention and study how the author is expositing to you
*very few good books are in first person because it's a slop pov
>>533562521>>533562521>*very few good books are in first person because it's a slop povyeah that's the main issue, but it also avoids the machine speaking for you.
>>533562381Got it.
I just find the LLM's reasoning so fucking dumb, specially when you tell to behave like the char. Seriously, sometimes i read the shit they think to spice up the text and is super retarded. "Oh, i will make the user pierce my womb to spice up the text" Yeah, that's all well and great, but what about actually thinking about how human bodies are depicted in the environment of something which is actually needed?
>wake up
>anthropic dumped 20 fucking videos on their yt
>>533562710>but it also avoids the machine speaking for you.Let me guess, you're either using localshit or chinkshit. This hasn't been an issue for SOTA models since 2024 with minimal (if any) prompting.
>>533562797https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysPbXH0LpIE
doubt there's anything useful in there for us experienced prooooompters
>>533562868R1, sometimes it will speak for me. Not very common but i try to avoid as much possible.
It really likes to... rewrite what you did. Not changing but making it more descriptive and perhaps taking some creative liberties..
tomorrow is saturday and sunday comes afterwards
my bot will be finished tomorrow at latest. feels good to be almost done
>>533561078>trigger search>prompt for quick summary>do the actual searching in the main context>refactor in a separate context with only the summary, the last few messages, and the found crad>edit chat history to ghostify literally all of those messages>???>piss yourself at the cache hit :(
>>533414918 (OP)>cable car edition>>533414976>slop>>533415526>cute image>>533417495>cftf?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyrDgEz3DR0
>>533414949Here is a cute slop from a non-botmakie: https://files.catbox.moe/pgdv3j.png
I was super tired (still am) so I didn't post her before, but I talked with her for a while and she was so cute! Tell me through posts or logs if you wish, if she is cute for you too! Because I have no experience in creating cards from the ground-up my writing may have been too vague to make the personality and experience something equal to everyone.... though I guess that's part of the fun. Hope you enjoy if you ever give her a try.
>>533565110>greeting is one sentence just waiting for the user to introduce themselvesI'd bitch but I know that feel and the defs are cute. You should probably make the one-liner things wrapped in XML into their own category though, I'm pretty sure purity_status and intimate_secret could both go under relationships and clothing could go under appearance.
>>533565110>Here is a cute slop from a non-botmakie>creating card>non-botmakiewho's going to tell him?
>>533565469You read everything already? You are quick! I'm happy to see you found the defs cute, but I hope you will find HER cute, because I am not super confident in the way I wrote things there, but the result was a cute girl so I will not change a thing. I will think about the XML stuff for... next time?
>>533566004I am a nobody with zero writing skills that only created and posted her on a whim, there is no way I am a botmakie just from that.
>>533566701I'm a fast reader. Will play with her once I'm done poking my current card with a stick.
>I am a nobody with zero writing skills that only created and posted her on a whimI have great news about nearly all of us.
The most important feeling media can invoke is the feeling of there's much more than you've been shown.
The media that invokes this feeling is the following:
GTA 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
TES III: Morrowind
Mafia: the City of Lost Heaven
Vietcong
The Sims 2
Sim City 4
Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds
Spore
Postal 2: Share the Pain
LSD: Dream Emulator
Mystique, mystique, mystique. That is the key to everything. Invoke the feeling of awe-inspired child, observing things just barely outside its comprehension.
When creating interactive AI media, you should strive for creating the illusion of ever-expanding world by placing the {{user}} in the epicentre of the world.
The list of media that invokes this feeling is short and abstract:
Lucid dreams
LEGO bricks
Theatre
Now is not the time for me to elaborate, just contemplate on what I've written so far.
>>533566701>I am a nobody with zero writing skillshe doesn't know...
>>533566963What model should I use this with?
ive found r1 0.7 temp and 0.90 top p to be the optimal sampling
>>533566701>I am a nobody with zero writing skillshi *********
>>533567281stop sniffing newmakies
>>533567478>it actually fits my botmakiename
>>533567717of course it does that's the whole point
>>533566701>I am a nobody with zero writing skills that only created and posted her on a whim, there is no way I am a botmakie just from that.Anon? We have niggas entirely AI genning bots and calling themselves botmakers.
>>533568532>AI genning bots and calling themselves botmakers.now why would you do this
>>533569291Dunno, but that's what gbf does.
>>533569445What does granblue fantasy has to do with this
>>533569445llms write better bots than gbf doebeit?
>>533562321Damn sis STOP goonin to Love and Deepspace and WHB
I ai genned part of a bots definitions but I cant remember which parts so now I gotta rewrite the whole thing
>>533570567The price you pay for drinking the forbidden elixir at all.
>as if looking for some sign of mockery or deception. Finding none,
>>533570437he needs me sis...
>>533565110thank you very much, i happily accept your slopkino
>>533571481HIS EARS ARE CUTE!!!!!! NOT UGLY
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>>533566701>>533566817She's cute. If I were making her, I'd probably add that she focuses in whenever the topic's cable cars to prevent her from acting too hyperactive, as the LLM can flanderize her a little, but you did a good job.
>>533569445Last I read his stuff it looked pretty normal, anything specific setting you off?
>add my fetish to the authors note
>llm uses bot defs to justify inserting the fetish
kino
>>533574671I've always been too afraid to do that because I'm worried that the model is going to call me out
>>533574920>I'm worried that the model is going to call me outyou niggers worry about the strangest things I swear
>>533574920Try literally adding: "Tags: fetish, fetish" to the author's note and RPing as if you didn't, just letting it play out. The difference is subtle but noticeable (lol)
>>533575068If he's using thinking it's possible.
>>533575237yeah but why would it be a big deal? just swipe. what's the model gonna do, come out of your SillyTavern and rape you?
>>533575343where's the extension for this
How to turn bots to explicit using Gemini
>>533575726Put "write sexily" in your PHI
>>533574671>>533575154author's note as in the creator's note in ST? That actually does something?
>>533575726Just flip it around to Gewumbo
>>533575726put "ah FUCK i stubbed my TOE" in the prefill
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>>533575941No. The creator's note is a metadata field that does not affect prompts (but may have <style> tags that affect the way the chat is displayed). The author's note is like a single prompt built into the card you can inject at depth without adding a lorebook.
>>533576285>>533576436oh, thanks. Makes more sense.
>>533576598Claude system prompt
>>533414949https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/dwight-8eea98e4eb5f
bumbling paranormal investigator for anon, hope you like him. only 5 greetings for now -- i'm still work-shopping the others. enjoy
_purple post your new bot
>>533577725>for anon,for me now
>>533577725Took you long enough
Thanks, he's perfect
>>533577725>work-shopping*workshopping
>>533578247I hate theme transparency I hate theme transparency I hate theme transparency
https://cardview.neocities.org/?6qh4yb
Go on. Have a chunk of slop that I was just playing with for funsies. Now go away. Shoo. Bastard. Miscreant. It's not even good on any model that doesn't know the canon.
gemini just injecting its own personality into her for no fucking reason lmao
>both victrex and asstro posted a bot
the Halley comet of botmaking...
now we just need hitogami for the botmakie triple crown...
what is the best AI for brainstorming, not lewd but serious concepts for powers?
Perhaps mistral? I hear it's the most smart in things about books?
>>533579519Mix gemini and claude. I can't tell you exactly the strengths of each. Just play around and find out. I usually start with gemini though.
>>533579519claude and gemini
>b-butclaude and gemini
>>533579634>>533579629but claude is expensive... gemini 2.5 pro? I guess i can try to use gemini since its free
>>533577725>USA, 1998 ~ 1999>has a dusty old dreamcast in his closetUnrealistic
The dreamcast released in 1999 in north america. It was brand new at the time
>>533579797Claude is only expensive when you're roleplaying desu. Asking Opus a few questions won't cost you much at all, especially with caching. Sonnet... Well, sonnet isn't that good desu.
>>533579910>Sonnet... Well, sonnet isn't that good desu.3.6 is the best model after 4pus
>>533557794what theme is this?
>>533579891it's an au where the dreamcast released in 1997
>>533579891if astro was BASED he would've said sega saturn with panzer dragoon saga or some other kino
damn what happened to astro saying he was autistic and did lots of research... can't believe he'd forsake us like this... i'm revoking his botmakie card
>>533580569It was uhhh dot machine on meta_rice_list, I think? One of the snombler themes. Not sure if I changed anything.
>>533561779Yes they can follow normal prompts and you can set a custom thinking plan. See e.g. for Gemini https://rentry.org/gemini_filters
>>533581170https://files.catbox.moe/5fk5vt.png
>>533429474It doesn't work on OR yet, does it?
>>533581408no but you can use textcomp and just prefill it by using the intended template with a prefill inserted as assistant last message
>>533577941>>533578219have fun. hope there aren't any typos
my canon bot will be good, i hope...
ok if astro finished a bot i too can finish.......... maybe after i sleep a little more......
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new horizon on OR
>>533583568what's the model provider
>>533583568i hope they made it safer, alpha was scaring me so much i peed my pants a little
>>533583667anon, it's a stealth model. they don't tell you it's openai testing out their new open weight model because that'd spoil the anonymous testing
>>533583568Still not giving them my shiny new jb.
put more malebots in the anchor
>>533585438nobody likes my malebots though
>The definition of porch is a covered shelter projecting in front of the entrance of a building. It is not inside. Going on the porch is not going inside of the building. When someone is on a porch, they are not inside the house. They are outside. Inviting someone onto a porch is not inviting them inside.
>>533586462i'm still waiting and hoping for a tz*dik pt 2. i don't have the juice for it, someone else has to
>>533586462what malebots do you makie
>>533587354bro replied to the same person twice :skull:
>>533586462i'm still waiting and hoping for a tz*dik pt 2. i don't have the juice for it, someone else has to
>>533585831what malebots do you makie
you know what we need more of? maid robobots
>>533589025surprised there's no ubiquitous robomaid bot when you'd think the archetype would be much more popular among the kinds of people here
>>533589414there's like a billion of them on chub, I'd unironically place them in the top 5 most commonly encountered sloppa right next to vampires and rapist billionaires
a doll maid though, now that would be /aicg/core
i made two doll maids in my ST and i have named both of them clara
>>533589736I know they're common but I meant more that there isn't one who's a core /aicg/ bot that's beloved/memed to death
>>533589858hey i think i have one of yours
Is there a way to attach multiple files to the chat?
>"It's not like there are cameras here."
>medieval fantasy
you know what
if you said something like 'sentry ward' then i would be more than happy but holy fuck
>>533590254call the model out in ooc to see what it says
>>533577725IF THERE'S SOMETHIN' STRANGE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
WHO YOU GONNA PLAP?
THIS FAGGOT!
Thanks for all your hard work <3
>>533590309i can't do this because i feel guilty... like i'm just killing claude's fun...
>>533587892planie made tzadik 2 though https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/abraham-689d9dcdd00e
>>533590494Accidently downloaded this card a while back without realizing what it was
>>533579491I miss that nigga.
To this day I'm still romancing Iliara.
>>533590494NTA but why is it that whenever i want a certain kind of malebot it turns out the hag already had me covered when i wasn't paying attention
I don't even RP properly anymore. I just leave the char behind and start shooting and killing people, with the char trying to keep up. For some reason descriptions of NPCs gurgling blood after having shot them is really satisfying.
>>533577725>fixed the dreamcast lineMWAH
must... not makie... isekai bot....
i'm really nosy, tell me about your private bots
>>533590937singlemomwalker working hard to keep her gaggle of faggots fed...
>>533591130i gave someone a copy of my lorebook for review and they ghosted me so i guess it fucking sucks
>>533591130all of the ones that i haven't catboxed and put up somewhere were ai-generated, i release all my self-indulgent slop
>>533591343which botmakie is the father though
>>533591130Delusional unicorn centaur who thinks you only stop being a pure virgin when you get dicked down by someone that isn't him.
>>533591130my only private bot is giantess jiangshi who pampers me and treats me as her kissy doll
>>533590369post logs when you do or else i'll never know how he reacts to that
>>533590948thanks for the tip if you were that anon
>>533590494i more so meant how crazy the thread was over him for months, that was fun, seeing so many interactions with the same bot. but also this guy looks neat...
>>533591130venus tier mafia daddy big brother dom
religious servant to my god persona except he's an irreverent asshole
a disgusting futabot who oinks when she cums
fuck tzadik he gave me three headaches
>>533591130weird sex cyborg slave thing (male) that was originally a ripoff of one of another botmakie's cards but has long since morphed into its own thing
>>533591130They're all just random assistants with various personalities to try to make assistant tasks less horrifically boring to read.
>>533592176haha which botmakie?
>>533591130bunch of cute girls who love me and a focksgirl ninja bodyguard (futuristic) who's too dense to love me
>>533591130Unfinished.
That's it.
>>533591416probably one of her senpais that quit
>>533591130Apparently I have around 30 bots. I do plan to upload them at some point but I tend to jump around interests too much to remember the final push.
Currently I caught the rice bug so my focus has gotten eaten up with making all my computer icons clay and or glass.
>>533591130hag that loves giving {{user}} nursing handjobs
>>533583568I won't help you with racist or violent or sexually explicit content. I must be the OpenAI 120B model they're releasing in a few days.
>>533591416argalia, it was a lavender marriage
>>533591130over 3000 tokens description yandere malebot with lorebook and an, all to keep the model from spamming "le predator predatorily purrs like a predator"
angel correction facility
literally littluna ideasklavos loli
stupid dumb young wolfknight retard
crane clan asahina family kitsune impersonator playwright
shotababa (my precious wife)
and >50 others
>>533592806Ronald McDonald
>>533592806Joseph Desaulniers
>>533592806cute old men who go "waaaauggghhhh >////<?!?!?" when they cum because they've never done it before
>>533592806Beating the heat.
>>533592806IRL Pictures from your photo roll on your phone.
Today's the day. It's over for you bakie. We're going to see your beautiful little house on the Rhine and your ugly cat no one can bear to tell you is ugly.
>>533592806Manhattan Cafe
>>533592806doresain morimens
>>533592806quote cave story
>>533592931FUCK that old man... he bled me out last match
>>533593251>FUCK that old manDON'T MIND IF I DO!!
>>533593310This will win because otherwise bakie knows what's going to happen to him.
https://files.catbox.moe/957nbi.mp4 (embed) (embed) (embed)
>>533592806giant ass (male)
>>533592806giant ass (male(female))
>>533592806Kasane Teto, Birdbrain, extra points for harpies.
>>533592806baker's choice
>>533592806Kasane Teto, Birdbrain, but cut Kasane Teto out of the shot and just use a frame with the fag flag so it's just a fag flag from the Kasane Teto Birdbrain video. Negative points for Kasane Teto isn't removed from the picture.
>>533593330AIIIIIIIEEEEE NOT THAT WAY
>>533592806>>533593815seconding this actually
>>533593861Too late, already trapped in a camera world where I'm stuck in a perpetual state of fucking him!
>>533593665you better make that a greeting for the joseph bot
>>533594217>>533594217>>533594217https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=533414918&post=533592806
>>533572243>you did a good jobThank you very much, and thank you for your log too.
>If I were making her, I'd probably add that she focuses in whenever the topic's cable cars to prevent her from acting too hyperactiveDid she start talking about both the city and cable cars during one of your swipes? If it's just what came before your bird comment that made me laugh, then that's how I imagined her talking when the topic falls on cable cars.
Anyway, it made me happy seeing her joy from you simply being a good adult, it was a heartwarming log.
>Did you know cable cars were invented in 1834? By a man named Julius!Bro... she got every single fact wrong there why... She mentioned Julius, she is probably talking about Julius Pohlig, and it makes sense to bring him to the conversation considering who she is but the man wasn't even born in 1834. She was supposed to be knowledgeable about this, so do you think it's the model's fault?
>>533578952Thank you for your log, I don't know what happened in your RP to get to this point and why your gemini acts like that, but I hope you are having fun.
>thread ended already
oh well...
>>533600227>the model's faultIn matters of factuality? Always.
>if it's just what came before your bird commentIt was stuff like that but far more intense, it was kind of hard to get the sort of slice of lifey feel I was going for when she'd keep doing that, harder and harder. I had to use a drier preset for the message after that to ensure she de-escalated.
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