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>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
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Darktide:
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Killing Floor 3: lol

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>>533686195 (OP)
ded general

I have successfully sandbagged havoc run by doing my penance, and I will do it again as long as "umm you have to do this with a private party" shit remains

>Killing Floor 3: lol

>>533686843
>filename
Kek. Keep ‘em coming anon.

We'll get new weapons in the next major update, right? Right?

>>533690212
Does a tree shit?

>>533690381
N-no...?

>Be me, Havoc 17 shitter
>Spam invites to Havoc 40s
>Get in
>Win ez after kicking some stealth Zealot who was even worse than me somehow
>Get a title and a 40 next to my name
COMING SOON TO YOUR HAVOC 40 GAMES - ME WITH MY DOGSHIT BUILDS

I just installed Darktide, any tips?

>>533690693
I have Inspect from Party Finder and True Level to see your current rank rather than highest completion specially to avoid people like you

>>533691490
have separate binds for jumping and dodging if you're on PC
get comfortable with tagging enemies "T" on PC, rebind it to something more comfortable
save your cash and materials for lvl 30, just play with whatever god emperor gave you

We're here to kill chaos

I wonder if people realize they can cancel Indomitable's charge at any time by blocking or pressing S so that they don't have to place themselves in bad positions when they use it.

Chaos didn't do anything wrong

>>533695659
It actually doesn't always work when you try to cancel it, but it almost always does

>>533691490
just b urself :)

>>533696113
how do I dress my psyker like this

>>533691490
Blocking and pushing work in 360 degrees. Other than the obvious this is also useful for scenarios such when you hear a hound's pounce or a poxburster but you don't know what angle it is approaching from.
Dodge slide often if there are enemies with guns, it makes you immune to ranged fire during the slide's duration.
There are sound cues both for when an enemy is about to MELEE you from behind, and a different one for when an enemy is about to SHOOT YOU from behind. Get used to these and watch for them because they are your sixth sense for avoiding attacks outside of your view. There is also a sound cue for when you successfully dodge an attack, which, speaking of, get used to doing. Dodging is more efficient than blocking, so don't rely purely on blocking.
Guns don't damage your health and don't cause corruption until you run out of Toughness. Melee attacks bleed through your Toughness and damage your health based on your remaining Toughness.

>>533696631
There are multiple toilet-bowl head dresses in the cosmetic shop, probably not in the rotation right now though. Because Fatshark is staffed by retarded Swedes who bought into the idiotic concept of FOMO instead of just having lists of things you can buy if you want when you want.

>>533691490
Here's one: stay out of my aurics

>>533691490
Always remember, team bunga. You unga.

>>533697019
Konata sexo

>>533697019
danke sounds useful

>>533697618
yeah this too, how punishing is the game? can I just get whatever looks cool and sounds fun and do well using my gamer instincts?

>>533698201
You can in lower difficulties. In aurics it will become frustrating, in havocs it will become practically useless. Thankfully there aren't a lot of useless weapons in this game

Starship troopers isn't that bad for only $15. The servers are pretty laggy though, probably because of the free weekend.

>>533699024
This is fascism

>>533698201
>how punishing is the game?
More than most coop games, but not as much as the previous tide games.
>I just get whatever looks cool and sounds fun and do well using my gamer instincts?
Heavily depends on how sharp your instincts are. Some things are significant stronger than others, but you can carry a team to victory with virtually anything if you're good enough. Just do not forget that >>533697618 is absolutely correct--your team WILL be bunga and you WILL need to unga.

>>533699024
>servers lagging with barely over 1k people playing
It's dead, Jim.

>>533699598
To be fair I didn't turn crossplay off so that might've also caused issues

>>533699598
>16k peak
Grim (Fandango)

I love dialogue like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A265TJLYxjo

I also tried to find a clip of Kayex-8 Talking about the spirit of the Servo-skull being wild/mischievous but I have been unable to find it. Do you guys think some Tech-priest keeps them as pets? Imagine going into some forge and looking at lines of pre-servitors to find the one with the cutest skull to be made into your future flying companion. I wonder what criteria's are sought after for the perfect skull

Every time I try to play Ogryn I just hate it. I hate being fat, slow, hurrhurr me big me use big weapon durr. I know they're OP now, but I think the people who mained this class before that were actually just roleplaying themselves actually being useful for once in their lives.

>>533708936
It took some getting used to for me as well. But it got progressively more fun as I went further into the tree. Just like the Psyker I feel like they need more points to get going compared to the other characters

>>533708336
All tech priests absolutely make use of servo-skulls, hell, there’s pretty much no sector of the Imperium that doesn’t, but they definitely don’t refer to them or think of them as something as lowly as ‘pets’, that’d be pretty antithetical to the veneration of machine spirits they preach. That said, there’s no reason they wouldn’t customize them as they see fit afaik.

Let me describe the average auric ascension riser mission
>eveyone dies in the first section
>they all leave
>now you can try to move the powercells with bots or leave if you don't want to attempt a solo mission

>>533708936
When people say Ogryn is OP they are referring exclusively to the Ogrynheimer build. Anyone who says Ogryn is brainless or easy in general doesn't actually play anything but that one build, because being the gunners' public enemy number one and having dogshit mobility isn't actually a free role compared to someone like Veteran who stays at the back, shits out golden toughness every 15 seconds, never runs out of ammo and can easily skidaddle away from danger, despite supposedly being the 'worst class'.

>>533709314
But we have seen several examples of Tech-priest showing deviancies in how they regard machines. Maybe this is not the best example, but one of the Hammer and Bolter animation has a Cybernetica Datasmith interacting with her Kastelan as if it where sentient. Now I do get that the gap between these two things is astronomical in importance, but I don't think it's so far fetched that some would get attached to their servo-skulls, maybe they wouldn't tret them as pets, but I could see them being viewed as familiars

>>533709703
It's OP when i use it, but i'm also better than you

>>533708336
I love this one
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7k7nwwwx-bI

>>533709819
>but I could see them being viewed as familiars
Yeah, that’s pretty reasonable, as long as some level of respect for is shown it aligns pretty well with them I’d say

>>533708936

Learn to use the picks. They're the best melee weapons in the game. It's not hard to figure out a build for them. Only mandatory perk on the weapon imo is the one that gives damage based on heavy attack charge time. This lets you one tap crushers (and everything else except maulers maybe) with head shots. You become a melee god and let your teammates hopefully use their ranged weapons to support you.

>>533712028
Nope. Skip that talent entierly
It's good for 1 crusher, light attack spam is better for a horde of crushers. It's the slowest weapon in the game and you don't want to play it even slower. Big charged heavy attacks are good for hitting captains after their shield breaks, but won't kill anything else faster

I truly hate... other people. Team bunga is not just a meme. These "people" are everywhere, all around me. You're one of them. You shouldn't exist.

>>533712028
Thrust isn't worth because the utility of killing Crushers faster isn't great compared to the general damage, horde clear and sustain blessings. It is great for chunking down captains, but you decide if that's better utility than versatility

>>533712028
>>533713992
Which Mark is everyone using

>>533715663
It's maddening. Just had some Russian guy talk on his terrible mic when he died. No idea what the faggot said though. But I am pretty sure I understood what he was trying to convey.

>>533715803
Thrust doesn't even kill crushers faster unless you are talking about a single solitary crusher
>>533715804
Branx. More difficult to use than the karsolas bit it kills everything that matters faster

>>533715663
Have you played any matches with other /copeg/ anons? It's night and day compared with your average pubbie. Genuinely not even the same species of hominid.

>>533697019
This is actually better starting info/tutorial than anything FS could ever have come up with, gj.

>>533693931
me second on the left

>>533709491
For me, it's Vigil Station Oblivum
>Everything goes fine
>But now, we must protect the elevator at all costs
>No matter how many snipers are out there and how poor the match up is with no bubble, relic etc WE MUST HUG THE ELEVATOR DOOR OUT IN THE OPEN
>DON'T LET IT TAKE A SINGLE POINT OF DAMAGE OR THE MISSION IS LOST

>>533720917
Two words : Cladestium Gloriana
Either we all die during the intro, someone goes down the hallway drop and spawns the boss and we all die, everyone misses the puzzle and would should be a five minute siege takes closer to fifteen or we actually somehow make it through to the end

>>533708936
I never used any gun besides the blunderbuss. He should have had the bolter desu.

>>533708936
>different class actually plays differently
>WTF WHERE'S MY DUELING SWORD!!!!
fair enough if you don't like it but man people really hate variety

>>533686195 (OP)
i forgot this was a thing

>4200 goy points
soon the cosmetic will be mine

>>533721421
>He should have had the bolter desu.
As a pistol yes

>shitters go down and leave
>psyker and i pull off a successful duo
Gj psyker

>>533726145
>>shitters go down and leave
Why do they always do that
Why must they always leave the instant they go down
I don't even get to res them half the time. I swear one guy was using a script to instant DC when he goes down, because I just heard the sound and when I looked in the corner of my screen, I saw the bot's health bar load in.

>>533699024
Maybe if they didn't reset all my progression and then double the grind I'd still be playing it but this game is even more grindy than KF3 because there's weapon specific progression to unlock attachments instead of it just being a universal progression (Crafting in KF3) and having no attachments, weapons, gear, grenades, or even class passives to choose from makes the gameplay absolutely abysmal. All but like 4 hours of this play time is pre-wipe.

>>533728315
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a mod like that. There used to be one that left and reconnected in such a way that you could avoid the rescue state

Some seem to be under the impression that lvl 1 thunderous is better due to a coding error

I just tested every lvl of thunderous on the bully club and the higher the thunderous lvl the higher the bleed damage against carapace

Conclusion: take the highest lvl thunderous

Thank you for your attention to this matter

>>533730201
I don't know of any blessing other than cleave on the helbore that is better at lower levels than higher, because it scales from 80% to 50% hitmass reduction (meaning it scales backwards and becomes worse at higher levels) or whatever it was. It also applies to everything you do, so it works with your melee weapon (not that any veteran melee particularly benefits from reduced hitmass, best I can think of is the OG shovel)

>aurics
>ogryn speedruns
>call him a tranny
>calls me bad
>leave
am i the bitch for not wanting to speedrun or is he a cuck for getting carried and thinking he has skill
only one dude died at the beginning and i think the psyker was hard carrying ranged enemies while i was pissing yellow nonstop

>>533730407
Great for the bleed talent. And basically doubles the amount of Crushers a Sunder Power Sword can swipe through. Neat

>>533732137
>am i the bitch for not wanting to speedrun
Depends on your definition of speedrunning. A lot of retards think that even killing everything in your way but constantly moving forward is "speedrunning" because the concept of moving and fighting at the same time is absolutely alien to them, and they can't survive unless they hold their ground somewhere.
Melee ogryn wants to keep stacks up, meaning it wants to bounce from pack to pack with as little downtime as possible. This feels like "speedrunning" when the other retards can't keep up, but it's hardly fast.

>>533732750
He moved past crushers, maulers and ranged enemies. I think we killed maybe 1/3 of all enemies which were aggroed to us. So it went like this
>kills 1-2 crushers
>runs past 3
>ranged enemies everywhere
>maulers on our asses at all times
my screen was constantly full of enemies he casually ignored and while i had no problems just dodging and running past shit it kinda got to me. Maybe i dont have the right mindset, i always yellow an ogryn since they are easier to see and follow but that playstyle, it was annoying. Especially since me and the psyker were doing our jobs. Poor vet tho, died in like the second room

why do bots not enter the twins arena? it's happened every time I've tried it

>>533728315
Maybe he was going for ASS.

>>533734647
It's pretty trivial to run ahead (especially if it's an ogryn) and make the consequences of their actions catch up to them from behind. Usually results in a quick leave, sometimes makes them slow down. It's what I always do unless I'm up against a literal speedmaxxing zealot.

>>533737094
Does that shit still work? Why can't these faggots just get it the legit way and fucking earn it?

>>533737581
I don't think it's an attempt at exploiting, it's probably just frustration and/or a quick retry since finishing the mission doesn't matter for him anyway at that point

>>533737520
I wanted to fuck him over but the psyker carried him just to good. I mean dude survived what i did but with 0 defenses with a flame staff on his own surronded by enemies he cant kill THAT fast while assailing ranged enemies. If that dude was slightly worse i would have tried to fuck that ogryn over. anyway without my piss and a dead veteran i doubt they made it very far. I dont enjoy this course of action but i also dont enjoy having some egocentric prick running around thinking he is some kind of l33t gamer while completely shitting on the team

>>533738373
I just view it as forceful reassignment of rear guard duty.

>>533728315
>Why do they always do that
>Clandestium Gloriana Maelstrom
>got extra barrels modifier
>zealot gets through by muties
>retard Ogryn throws nuke and sets off like 3 barrels
>zealot gets blasted off the rails
>quits on her way down
I understand rage quits like that

>>533738985
funny

how do i run and build a martydom zealot to use with crusher? I find the weapon to be really fun. I could run it with arbiter but i need to level zealots archivements and kinda like the yellow toughness

>>533746435
the same way you build every zealot

run a stam trinket because crusher push attack is its highest dps

>>533746435
zealot has 1 build just copy that put martyrdom in it, and get 3 wound curios
the two subnodes are obligatory

Vet's powersword is so ass
>Useless unless charged
>Only one attack per charge unless you use a blessing for 2 more
>Lose all stack upon taking melee damage

>>533747230
It also only has one other blessing, which increases its cleave and lets it slice through carapace. The fucking thing has literally one build, it's hilariously poorly designed.
It's also extremely good. If you think it's ass that's a skill issue. It's just kinda un-fun in the way it's designed.

>>533746686
>>533746697

>>533578737
Im currently running this anons build with 3x health and a crusher. I can survive but i have zero crit on that weapon. I dont know how taking knives will help me since i dont have crit anyway. Also i like the molotovs more. Any ideas how i could adjust said build instead?

>>533746686
>giving up Sustained Assault for TWBS or a largely ineffective IOD
No. TWBS is a crutch on pretty much every build that isn't a stealth TH build (and even then it's still a crutch). Also, you already have Punishment for normal gameplay. You're barely getting value out of your two-point investment to IOD because no BP and no crit blessings. Scourge and Enduring Faith aren't going to do much for Crusher either. Enduring Faith is also less valuable than normal because you already get a bunch of toughness DR from Martyr. You can skip the knives and take fire or stun nades while still running Second Wind. Going the stun route for Vicious Offering since you do a decent amount of heavy attacking with Crusher isn't a bad idea.

>>533746435
>crusher
Play arbites

>>533747396
The havoc health build is fucking terrible in aurics, I wouldn't bother with it.

>>533747396
to add on this i was thinking about going left instead of middle to take bleed for the emperor for more survival and dropping invocation of death because i literally never ever crit with the crusher
>>533747408
cant, need the penis points
>>533747505
idk i perform with this build better than with toughness curios or that charge attack. Cant explain why. I survive things i wouldnt with a vet which is huge for me

>>533747396
Like the Thammer, the Crusher doesn't care for crits much, so you won't actually get much value out of Blazing Piety outside of the 25% TDR and the buff to your teammates. +2 wounds outside of Martyrdom is retarded, you will never go down that many times unless you are legitimately terrible, and if you do go down, you shouldn't expect to get picked up more than once. Skipping Duelist is always bad. Skipping on the best toughness talents (right side tree) is also bad. Unlike 'Beetus, Zealot is solved, and going top middle or left paths is just inherently inferior to right side. Your weapon may not like crits, but the bleed is pretty good, the 10% toughness per kill (as opposed to 5%) is insane, the 15% on dodge is very complementary to Zealot,

>>533747831
>Cant explain why. I survive things i wouldnt with a vet which is huge for me
Well yeah it's literally optimized to survive through the worst the game can throw at you, with built-in fuck-up protection through martyr's purpose. It's really, really easy to survive with, just take damage then press F.
It's just not good at carrying aurics, or something I'd recommend you learn the class with. It's too much of a crutch.

>even space marines 2 that came months ago has more players than killing floor 3
what the actual fuck niggas

is bleed for the emperor worth it?
Is the performance of it better on 3x health or 3xwounds curios?

>>533748498
I said this would happen and KFtards here said I was wrong

>>533747954
You are misinformed. It was never meant as an auric build, and in the context of Aurics, it is indeed far from ideal.
>Like the Thammer, the Crusher doesn't care for crits much, so you won't actually get much value out of Blazing Piety outside of the 25% TDR and the buff to your teammates
That's not even the reason it's there. BP enables consistent uptime of Invocation of Death for more Relic spamming. You can do the same with FOTF on TH so you can get safer TH special hits amidst high-armor/mass. This is some anon's specialized Havoc build for max Chorus spamming to carry semi-competents through 40s. That's why he skips Duelist and takes +wounds. The former is understandable since you're spending a lot of time either flaming or Chorusing as relicbitch, and losing Duelist isn't too bad if you run Tooth pick since it's insane anyway. That said, I've never cared for his choice of the extra wounds. He uses it to get a partial health refil and save on resources when there's a relative break in the action. I still run Duelist over that
>Skipping on the best toughness talents
When you are constantly shitting out piss cloaks and have other teammates either doing the same or throwing down bubble/Nuncio, it's not a big deal. Chorusbot doesn't dive unless he's dropping Chorus to stagger them on approach.
>and going top middle or left paths is just inherently inferior to right side
You can run either nade and still get most/all of the right side stuff for auric builds.

>>533748779
Not really. If you're running Martyrdom, the point is to be at low health with most wounds missing. If you're already missing all/most of your wounds' HP, then you're not going to get much/any value from it. You'd have to take Martyr+BFTE and then not be making (nearly) the most out of your keystone for BFTE to be of any real value, which is pretty fucking counterproductive.
If you aren't running Martyr, you only have 2 wounds and have no reason to ever take BFTE.

Best Stalker skin?

>>533749057
What did you say?
I'm pretty sure most people here called KF3 DOA

>>533749160
Im just curious. No specific build or connections to other skills. Would the wounds be better or the hp curious?

>>533750354
>No specific build or connections to other skills.
It does depend on build though.
Wounds are only good on Martyrdom builds. HP curios are specifically very good for that Havoc build from earlier, in part because of Martyr's Purpose (and Faith's Fortitude) allowing for more Chorus uses, and in part because of how high Havocs work with regards to nerfing your max toughness.
In Aurics, toughness curios and health curios are both good, and a stamina curio is often not a bad choice (at the very least) as well. Toughness helps you avoid chip damage a bit better and makes you much less susceptible to ranged enemies. Health lets you take some more chip damage or, more importantly, survive more significant mistakes or bad situations. Health also benefits Holy Revenant. Between those three curios, it's generally personal preference in Aurics; your choice doesn't matter too much. That said, I'd only ever run a single +3 stamina curio and then choose whatever you like between the other two, if you opt to run a stamina curio at all.

>>533750878
I mean. for example, please entertain my retardness if you have a moment, i take faith fortitude and either 3 health or 3 wound curious. Which ones would give me the most bang for the buck if i also took bleed for the emperor.
Im just trying to understand which scenario is better.

>>533751685
Bleed For the Emperor isn't a good talent. The only time it would benefit you is if you're running Martyrdom and not benefiting from Martyrdom. Outside of Martyrdom, you don't care about bonus wounds because they aren't as good as health/toughness/stamina, and if you're getting downed enough to warrant taking extra wounds, you should be dropping difficulty and working on improving instead. Forget about anon's Havoc build and pretend he doesn't run Faith's Fortitude on it, because for your purposes in being newer to the game, it's essentially a useless talent in every possible scenario. Same with wound curios with the sole exception of Martyrdom builds.

>>533751685
>>533752148
Sorry, forgot the second part. Anyway, in that scenario, probably still the health. A lot of damage instances are going to be individually small, so 40% reduction may not actually help you all that much. On average, I imagine the bonus health would be far better.

>>533752945
thats all i needed to know, thank you
i was confused by these posts (pic related) so i wanted to ask you first. boths posts are old so i needed to make sure

>>533748498
I mean that’s not a surprise. AFAIK most people liked SM2. Like a handful of people liked KF3.

>>533753451
Yeah no problem. If you do end up running Martyrdom with that stuff, then obviously take the wound curios instead.

KF3's characters make me want to say sorry for every criticism I had for Ana.

>>533754517
wow that is a really poorly modeled hand

>>533754517
>dyke punk tuff womyn whore is.. le good actually

>>533755623
Compared to everyone in 3? Absolutely.

>dont have a full team
>boss is 3 fucking impalers
>wipe

>>533755914
no they're all irredeemable dogshit
there is no grading this trash

>>533690381
I bet Nurglite ones do

>>533755914
>this shit is ass but at least it's not diarrhea
fucking revisionists

Another day another shitty fucking ranged zealot

>>533757278
4% toughness on ranged kill talent bro

>player walks several crusher overheads right into me
>proceeds to ignore burster and downs me
I'd rather have bots

>>533721421
>>533725595
Lorelets gtfo.

Why the fuck is killing floor 3 full of RNG, even darktide removed that shit

>get a infiltration knife veteran in my havoc
>first time seeing one ever
>curious, let him in
>he ran out of plasma rifle ammo and grenades in about 10 minutes
>doesnt have the move speed of zealot
>or attack speed
>or dps output
>or toughness regeneration
>or ability cd

so a vet who cant throw knives, kite enemies, disrupt gun squads, runs out of ammo quickly, and can barely handle a pox horde by himself. vet really blows right now doesnt it

News of the slop shop?

>>533761587
It's always the same pattern
>game needs 2 more years in development
>suits go NO, WE NEED RETURN ON INVESTMENT NOW OR IT'S RISKY
>but this game is barebones as fuck mr goldstein... we need 2 more years..
>okay here's your live service advisor who will tell you all about these retention techniques...
>also milk the cash shop harder

Heavily simplified but this is unironically how game releases work. This is why, when you see a delay, it won't mean "this game is being finished in these last months" it means
>the game was not ready for release, so game is being retrofitted with retention and jew shit to salvage the situation

>>533761943
If he had a dueling sword you wouldn't even pay any attention to him

>>533761943
>infiltration Vet
That's only ever ending one way kek

>>533761943
>vet really blows right now doesnt it
No, you played with a retard using a retarded build.
Vet one-tap deletes almost every serious threat, and two-taps everything else unless there's resist/extra HP fuckery going on. Every time I explain this, some hardstuckie sub-human retard has an absolute meltdown over how useless veteran is, so I'm not even going to bother anymore.
Vet is good in h40 in ways other classes don't compete, you just got a retard with a bad build. If you can't make it work yourself, you are the retard. Simple as.

>duo
>guy's first auric attempt
>vacuum capsule section is taking forever because i keep having to rescue him
>ends in error 2014 anyway
What a waste of time

>>533765536
VACUUM CAPSULE!

>Arbiter get toughness from just hit enemies, unlike Veteran who need kill

>>533767120
It really do be like that huh

>>533767120
>zealot need do thing make blue number go up, arbiter exist make blue number go up

>>533767120
>Veteran
Voice of Command loses 6 seconds off its 30 second cooldown (26s with curios) every time you kill an enemy.
You can instantly replenish 15% toughness from a weakspot kill on a poxwalker, 10% from specialist/elite kills, ranged or not, and queue up toughness regen from the same.
Melee-focused builds that Youtubers shill out endlessly will tell you to go right side and you'll miss out on these easy access regen talents, though.
Catch a Breath will let you regenerate 5% toughness a second as long as you don't get hit by or block a melee attack.
>Zealot
Nearly exclusively regenerates toughness from melee kills. There's the "+4% toughness on ranged kill" meme, the "2.5% toughness a second if there are 3 enemies within 5 meters" dogshit, and 15% toughness on successful dodge which is unreliable for melee combat and more reliable verse gunfire. You'll be relying 90% on melee kills and your ability for your toughness replenishment on this class.
>Psyker
Quell peril, crits, soulblaze of any kind, or stay inside your bubble.
>Ogryn
Hit enemies or brace your ranged weapon

>>533768262
>Hit enemies or brace your ranged weapon
Or taunt

>>533768262
>You'll be relying 90% on melee kills and your ability for your toughness replenishment on this class.
In havoc, I'm relying 90% on coherency, allies or chorus pissing out toughness, with a base toughness of like 50 or whatever you have with zero investment.

>>533768262
>Voice of Command loses 6 seconds off its 30 second cooldown (26s with curios) every time you kill an enemy.
that's just false

>>533769414
I assume he meant elite or specialist enemy

Which coop game has the best waifus?

>>533770139
There are a couple cute characters in back4blood, you can make a cute custom character in aliens fireteam elite, there are a couple cute characters in world war z, bg3 is a coop game and that has lots of waifus and you can make a cute custom character, and of course there's Kerillian.

>>533770139
Darktide

>mission finale
>psyker has med stimm
>goes down to 1 wound
>a minute goes by
>tick tick tick TICKTICKTICK POP
>psyker dies
>med stimm on his corpse
kek
Why are people like this?

>>533770686
Selfish retards just hoarding stuff even though they never use them

wish fat shark would make the heavy evisc atleast big as long as relic blades..

Chainsaw swords are too short

>>533771126
You know, I'm pretty convinced they're not doing it on purpose. They just lack object permanence.
I just had another keel over with a med stimm in his inventory.

>dog ping into dense group for remote detonation
>3 retards immediately go uwu puppygirl mode thinking the ping was meant for them, and delete the target before my dog can get there
>dog ping any high value target I can't currently get to because I'm actively meleeing a dense armored horde
>nobody so much as looks at it

tacaxe copman is fun

Dab

>>533773832
It's because 99% of people (even the fags who think they're good because they reached h40) are low IQ. Genuinely. They cannot wrap their brain around the concept of not holding your own, but simultaneously trusting your teammates to cover whatever you're not currently working on. If we're defending a section I cover my side, and I make sure that side is covered even if I happen to mop up the immediate enemies. Most people won't do this, they'll unga bunga whatever is in front of them then rush over to 'help' elsewhere which just means the protective posture is broken and you get flanked. Extremely simple concept and likewise extremely telling of how dumb people are when they don't understand it.

>>533773832
dogfags deserve to suffer

>>533785821
>WE'VE GOT A SNIPER!
>RED LIGHT, HEADS DOWN!
>SNIPERRR!!! Seek!
>bleep- dodge BLAM!
>BLAM ACK! I'm down!
>BLAM ACK! I'm down! x2
Does it really require more than like 80 IQ points to put 2 and 2 together and realize letting the sniper live is what killed you?
Like yeah, obviously not dodging is ACTUALLY what kills them, but they're never learning THAT.

>>533755064
Kek you’re right
>>533770409
>couple cute characters
>that has lots of waifus
Both wrong

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

I greatly dislike what they did with the Siren in the new Killing Floor.

>>533790915
I do like the extendo neck idea but like literally every other enemy in kf3 she's covered in too much sci-fi techno crap.

just finished veteran
what class should I do next for penances?

Can I have a normal helmet alt for psyker and zealot with the death korps skin?

Veteran always has the best free and premium cosmetics but he's my least favorite class

>>533793376
Psyker

>>533793376
Psykers are unironically better at ranged combat if you give him the assail perk. Imagine playing as Sienna but good and being able to pick a gun instead of a staff, my playstyle was juggling spamming assail and blaze sword so I wouldn't overheat and die from using assail too much then pulling out my shotgun for big guys.

>>533794214
I would pay for these, but instead psykers get jack shit for slop

For darktide when you're out of stamina can you no longer block or push or something?

>>533797382
I think it means melee is weaker

>>533797382
it's possible that being out of stamina may even reduce your speed while sprinting but there's no way to know for sure. sometimes (although not often) if you try to block while low on stamina, you get put into this kind of stun animation but that's probably just a glitch

>>533794852
Yeah Assail is just about the most fun ability in the game. Super satisfying. Too bad it locks you out of Psyker’s best node. Bastards.

>>533800376
>Too bad it locks you out of Psyker’s best node.
Whats that? I never used anything else

>>533797382
if you're out of stamina,
when you block you will be staggered when hit
pushes are much weaker being effectively useless
your sprint is slightly slower and you no longer dodge enemy ranged attacks when sprinting perpendicular to enemy fire.

>Assail is just about the most fun ability in the game.

>>533800609
>here's your auric teammate bro

>go focus veteran
>have 3 ogryn as teammates
>none of them push or kill the trash mobs off me
>die 2 times
>they just block my line of sight for shooting

>>533800609
I want to know too, I'm just starting out

>he doesn't know

i rarely see psyker kill elites anyway so this trait maybe triggers 20 times per round. also which skill is so needed that you canr run aurics with it on its basic cooldown?

this is why im racist against psykers

>>533803078
Psychinetics aura. It's overrated in auric. But it's insanely good in havoc.

hello /coopg/, tourist here, should I buy darktide? I remember it launched a few years ago and I passed it over, is there still a playerbase?

Is it fun?

>>533803857
what the fuck am I reading

>>533804991
not really because the looting system is fucked

>>533805050
>uuuhm my golden toughness??? I cant play aurics without it :((((
casul

>>533805356
oh you're retarded, never mind

>>533805459
>nooo my bubble, how else am i going to survive ranged enemies now :((((
literal baby that needs to be babysit in fucking aurics lmao

>>533805821
you don't need to dig yourself deeper

>>533804991
yes, the combat, in my opinion, is unmatched in the genre and in general. arbites will hard carry you as you learn the game but i implore you to not rely to heavily on it because the class is so strong it wont teach you the essentials to surviving. play some psyker to learn how to really play.

>>533805909
there is no usecase where 100% cooldown reduction over an entire round is needed in aurics. I wouldnt even name a single usecase where id need cooldown reduction fullstop. if things go south its because your team doesnt do their jobs, not because your piss toughness or your bubble was on cooldown. for even entertaining the idea that cdr is needed in aurics you are by default a casual who needs to be babysat by his op skills just to have any semblence of control in baby mode. git gud

>>533806410
>aurics
lol shitter

>>533806681
>the discussion was about aurics
>no u
crazy

anyway. i go even further. You only need toughness against ranged enemies. if you cant handle melee enemies and need big blue bar to protect you from hits you are a bad player ba default and should just stick to ogryn or arb.

>>533806874
no, you were the first one to bring up aurics when your incompetence was brought to attention

>>533807179
retard
>>533801627

>>533785821
>trusting your teammates to cover whatever you're not currently working on
Lol lmao even

SOMEONE CALL FOR A BUM

>>533785821
typical shitter whining that other people dont care about a "defensive formation" against fucking poxwalkers

>>533804991
Yes it’s good and fun and worth it. Buy it. The playerbase is still very active for that reason. Usually doesn’t take more than a minute to find a match unless you’re like playing Havoc or something.

>>533800376
>>533801218
no lies detected
>>533728330
lol fuck that now im definitely not playing it

>>533805356
Fucking retard

>>533771147
You’re fond of big and long things aren’t you?

Is the sapper shovel for veteran bad? I find I have trouble clearing trash and all mobs with it when doing a focused build.

Sell me space marines 2? KF3 runs like ass and I'm tired of darktidding all day

>>533812152
You can use the decimator blessing and spam light attacks, or you can get just a rashad combat axe with brutal momentum on it or a power sword

>>533812152
No it's excellent, unironically one of the best horde clear weps in the game and very high stagger options, plus it comes with uncanny, the best blessing in the game.
Are you using the one with the stab special? That's the good one. Are you max level with a maxed weapon? It sucks dick with bad bars

>>533812965
Which mark?
>>533812965
You mean no folding?

>>533811748
emotional little bitch
hit too close for comfort didnt it shitter

>>533813738
Yeah the non-folding one that does a stab move instead is the good one. The folding ones aren't bad, just decidedly lack good movesets outside of the fold hit. The stab staggers crushers and mutants so it's useful too
you want to be hitting hordes with super fast heavy attack spam, probably use deicmator/uncanny is what I ended up liking most, light spam kills armored stuff ok

>>533814265
Nope. Just called you a fucking retard because you're a fucking retard. Got a problem with that?

>>533793979
The shop is limited, slow as fuck and you expect Fatshark drop something good?

>>533809723
Don't you have another sub 20 havoc key to brick brownie?

>>533815181
I know you're not playing havoc because you complain about shit like "getting flanked by poxwalkers" so why even pretend? Why pose about something like this

>>533814856
as much problem as with insects. minor inconvenience being in the same place as you. you killing yourself suddenly and expectantly because of your low iq would be a net neutral

>>533812152
>I find I have trouble clearing trash and all mobs with it when doing a focused build
How? It can one shot zombies and while two to four hit can kill everyone under a heavy gunner. Are you using Heavy Attacks? Are you using the wood handle one or one of the shitty strikedown shovels? If you're not using the base one that might be your problem

>>533812875
>Sell me space marines 2
>Has an actual story with a surprising emotional center
>Fun but horribly unbalanced PVP with glacial progression that makes it hard to perform against high level players with simply superior gear
>Operations works a lot like Darktide but in Third Person, get used to running the same missions over and over on increasing difficulty
>Lots of trash hordes with elites thrown in
>Similar Melee/ranged playstyle and expectation that you'll mostly used melee
>Weapon MKs can play WILDLY different from each other unlike a lot of DT weapons
>MTX Slop Shop is far FAR less predatory and doesn't have an annoying shopkeeper
You can easily go from DT to SM2 and vice versa as Operations has a similar flow to DT missions, but of course the devil is in the details as SM2 is closer to a character action game

>>533816393
Does it run like ass?

>>533815408
I didn't even mention poxwalkers. You should consider hanging yourself.

>>533817038
So let's expose your backpedal right now
if it's just poxwalkers, it's fine if people abandon "their side" and let enemies "flank you"?

>>533817493
It's never "just poxwalkers" if you play any difficulty where it matters. So I think the only one who exposed anything is you, how much of a shitter you are. Though that much was obvious from your first post.

>>533818871
There's plenty of times on Havoc 40 where poxwalkers come from odd directions but no elites. Answer the question instead of dodging it
Also, do you genuinely think it's your teammates fault if you don't pay attention and a mauler whacks you from behind?

>>533819461
>There's plenty of times on Havoc 40 where poxwalkers come from odd directions but no elites
There really isn't. Go away LARPer, you're gonna have to try harder next time if you want to shitpost.

>>533819624
>there really isn't
Yep, hasn't played it
can't help but notice you haven't answered either question. Please, go into detail as to how it's anyone elses fault you didn't pay attention and get hit

>>533816528
Better than DT a few updates ago but it still has it's problems. Granted I haven't touched it since the Bio Titan boss update

>You don't play the game
>No u
Every thread. How is this general so retarded

>>533820685
You can literally go watch any H40 footage and see there's tons of situations where it's just a horde intermittently. This isn't actually a debate, the guy is just knee deep in cope
Here, actual H40 footage randomly picked from some sperg who spends 12 hours a day playing it so I knew there would be footage of it
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2529418127?t=04h06m09s
It's just a random timestamp it happens plenty

You have to stop pretending all posters are equal. I have reality behind me

>>533820685
It's just the same brownoid room temperature IQ poster who always rears his head whenever he feels personally called out. Then he proceeds to create false narratives to save face. He's not worth spending time on.

>>533820921
I would've died to those poxwalkers in that situation + it would've been my teams fault for not protecting the flank

>>533820685
I wonder how its still alive with so much shtiposting and general hostility of which im also guilty. I would have a more civil discussion on pol saying jeets have good culture than posting a build here i deem good. YOu people are unhinged its hillarious and the issue is, most of you are high iq which is odd considering this game is just a horde shooter

>>533821635
A game where peoples measure of skill is based on killing mediocre swedish AI en masse breeds ego
PvP games rarely have this issue because someone who's kinda not that great will get ego checked every time he fights someone he thinks is worse than him

>>533815418
You sound really really brown right now lol

>>533821862
dont we have the same ego checks in form of builds and havoc?
I dont know i only play quick matches but every once and a while a step out of the line and get mauled by you in a matter of a few posts which in turn most of the time proof to be correct. Its quite thrilling really, maybe im just gay for you guys because darktide is my current obsession i dont know but it has been a ton of fun

>>533821902
im sorry

>>533822620
I mean Havoc is still kind of easily cheesable. You just need a CDR psyker and a chorus zealot and you can kinda get carried through it. I don't think there's necessarily any ego checks in the entirety of darktide, the people who do fail to progress havoc either don't care for it or are actually very low IQ retards who can't even figure out the working cheese

>>533805356
learn to read before posting, pajeet

>>533819624
you should look at >>533820921
it proves you wrong and exposes you as a projecting larper

>>533768871
Or use Indomitable
I didn't want to care to name every ability that restores toughness, I think most of them do

>>533823368
You didn't even read the original post, you're fighting with some strawman you've created. Enjoy your last (You).

>>533822934
im in no position to argue but i get mixed signals. Some state the mode is easy other state its hard while posting builds others praise. From my personal experience with this game and a broken controller while considering me from a humbled position iq and skill wise, i have to assume that the game provides with at least some form of resistance which in turn can humble someone but thats just a general assumption based by my limited observations. In short, i agree that pvp is way harder than anything darktide and therefore bigger ego check (im coming from rust) but i wouldnt understate darktide as whole either. For me personally its somewhere around dark souls levels of difficulty when i first played the series.

>>533822934
I don't even think chorus lets you cheese if your team just fails the skillchecks to get through H40. How much is that 5 second chorus stagger and 5 second piss health gonna help when you forget to pray to RNGesus and the game dumps twins and several monstrosities on you? Maybe even add several disablers and a ritual to the equation. If your team isn't good at killing things, timing and positioning efficiently, Chorus won't help. Chorus is not fool-proof, it's barely anything proof even

>>533823368
You are literally the same color as my shit. Pipe the fuck down

>>533823713
>you're fighting with some strawman you've created.
You said it's not about poxwalkers because H40 has no pure poxwalker hordes. I linked you video proof of such a thing existing on H40. Your backpedaling doesn't work.

>>533823713
what's the original post? The reply chain is broken.

>>533823770
I don't think him saying the mode is easily cheesed is the same as saying the mode is easy.
Having a dedicated Chorusbot with flamer and a Psyker that helps the group with CDR and has infinite cleave from infernus makes Havoc substantially easier and more consistently winnable with random PUGs than without.
>playing any sort of shooter with a fucking controller
ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.jpg

Don't worry guys I'm going to read everyone's arguments and make an objective judgement so we can settle this once and for all.

>>533820685
you need to post more cute anime girls to sate us it’s the only way

>>533820921
>tune into newtype stream
>99% chance he's complaining about muh arbites
>entire stream is just constant whining and make-believe
I hate nerftrannies so much it's unreal

>>533824437
There is no argument. Some browngroid just started sperging out for no reason

>>533824251
Original post was here >>533785821
I called him out on blaming his teammates for getting raped by poxwalkers. He proceeded to pretend
>I wasn't talking about poxwalkers
to which I asked him "Oh, so it's fine with poxwalkers then?" to which he started sperging about H40 having no non-mixed hordes, which I disproved.

Conclusion: Anon gets raped by poxwalkers then blames his team for not "covering his flank" and everything beyond that is his desperate attempts to cope. I asked him also that if he didn't mean poxwalkers, wether he blames his team if he gets whacked by a mauler cause he didn't pay attention. No response to that.

>>533824349
again, i have no stakes in this since i dont play havoc. All i know is that its some fabled hardmode that is even harder than aurics which i find plenty challanging and am content playing it for another month or so before moving on.
>playing any sort of shooter with a fucking controller
its comfy :P, i also play mmos on a controller nearly everything but anomaly and doom wads really but thats because those games have like 6 buttons. I even play l4d2 with a controller now.

>>533824802
He's literally right and your post about poxwalkers was a strawman

Conclusion: you're retarded and you lost. He is smarter than you and he won

>>533823770
I mean it's basically what I just told you. Yes, it has tight tuning, but it's very cheesable which is what most people do in pubs in my experience. Hosts pretty much always invite a combination of shout vets, chorus zealots and CDR psykers. This can trivialize H40 quite severely. There's also in mission RNG which means some missions can suddenly throw a 4 boss brick wall at you in a spot you can't back up or hold ground at, whereas other missions nothing hard ever happens.

>>533825501
>Someone says "it's my teammates fault for not watching my flanks if I get killed"
>ask him why he needs someone to cover his flank for poxwalkers
>I DIDNT MEAN POXWALKERS! STRAWMAN!
>ask him what he meant then
>dead silence, only responds to cry about strawmen
Let me guess, high school debate club

>>533824802
why would you ever assume he was talking about poxwalkers unless you are fucking retarded? holy fucking malice shitter

>>533825770
You'd have to be a complete mongoloid to interpret it this way. Clearly you are nowhere close to being intelligent and experienced enough to comment on darktide gameplay
>>533825809
He's a complete retard and now he's seething because he got called out

>>533824802
Hmm I see. I think you both have some valid points.
Generally when the team is moving through the map, there is no such thing as getting flanked. The more forward momentum the team has, the more enemies spawn in front. And since this game is like 90% hallways, getting flanked isn't really something to care about. And in open areas most teams hug the sides anyway. If a nearby door opens, the nearest player usually handles it automatically. And everyone is responsible for taking out trappers.

However. During hacking objectives, it's good to have players hold positions to make sure the hacker doesn't get staggered.

>>533825809
Notice the endless screeching about
>YOU STRAWMANNED!
but you will never offer the explanation as to which enemy exactly is meant in
>my team didn't protect me, so it's their fault I got hit by this enemy

>>533825531
maybe there is still a skillcheck implication? From my personal experience i have never won a match with a specific setup if the group was uncordinated, had no clue what to do or didnt do objectives. I think and thats just an assumption that while yes specific loadouts make things easier hence why we have build discussion in the first place, player skill and coordination is another element which in turn can and will lead to other players having an inflated ego and rightfully so. Its oftetimes observed with the scoreboard mod. While i personally have no experience with it some of you give it a high credibility which i use as proof for this statement. in the ende its not more of a check to say i carried my team through havoc or we had a good run because of our skill than to say i carried my team in rust and we did a good raid because we were coordinated and had good reaction times. It feels kinda difficult to compare both games anyway, pve can as much be a skill check as pvp hence why i mentioned dark souls when it first released since it was also some form of bragging rights to have beat it in a specific way and partially still is. but i still agree that pvp games are in general more difficult and tend to ego check people more than pve in most cases because of the arguments you already presented.

>>533826224
Hacking objectives are for sure different but that's just because you literally cannot defend yourself and still finish it (other than the hab dreyko one kinda I guess, but it still takes time to click through)
Otherwise, you have the exact same capabilities of 360° defending yourself as everyone else or failing that, moving to keep enemies on one side of you, and exactly this is expected of you to not be deadweight. It's nobodies job to "protect your flank" or "keep a direction locked", that's just totally superfluous. If enemies are in your melee range you can melee them

>>533826481
I guess beating H40 without the cheese is a skill check of some sorts, but darktide difficulty is weird anyway. 99% of it comes down to having seen the situation before so you prioritize correctly, execution is like 1% of it. Comes with the territory of a pve game: You learn how the AI works and learn the hard counters.
Ultimately my point was just that in Darktide, you can substitute that skill with knowledge. The knowledge that if you have a zealot with chorus in H40 aka "elite spam mode" with a talent that gives him massive CDR on each elite kill, it's quite hard to actually ever take damage even if you try. That's why there's no true ego checks. Anyone can just cheese it then think he's good. Try cheesing a player in a pvp game. Works once then he rapes your ass probably

>>533827516
agree. And you can play builds that don't rely that much on execution. For example voidblast staff psyker is all about positioning. No need to have good aim.
However if someone were to play knife zealot then execution becomes way more important.

>>533827516
cant argue with that

>>533827479
so true

>>533826281
Everyone who's better than you knows what this means

uhhhh fix the matchmaking so people can join in progress games??

servers shitting themselves

>>533830457
I love when people get embarrassed and caught out on their lies so they just transistion to this
>hehe I was just messing with you all along
shit
This is 4chan, you are anonymous, theres no need to cope like this and convice yourself you were never serious, you can just drop the convo, acknowledge you were wrong and move on
>inb4 total lack of understanding of what I just told you, doubling down on the facade

I want to discuss a scenario
>1 player splits up and breaks coherency
>rest of team stays together and goes down
>split player is now last man standing
Would you say it is the 1 player's fault for their teammates' deaths? Would you say the 3 players only have themselves to blame?

Just got this game, any tips for a new player?

>>533834453
no one is at fault

>>533834453
everyone is at fault, especially fatshark

>>533834718
bee yourself

>>533834453
drinking miku’s refreshing juices..

>>533834918
thanks man

>>533834718
I posted tips yesterday
read >>533697019

>>533835296
>>533697019
helpful, ty

>>533834453
Depends on the exact scenario.
>Lone Wolf is at fault
Did the lone wolf take any actions that resulted in more pressure on the other three than they would have encountered otherwise? For example, if he pulled the aggro for a shooter patrol or triggered a monstrosity during a horde, but didn't stick around to help clear it, that would place him at fault (though the other three were still partially to blame for not being able to handle unexpected situations).
>Three Musketeers at fault
Conversely, if it was a case of the other three players moving at a snail's pace or obviously maneuvering themselves into an indefensible situation (staking up in the middle of an open area despite the presence of multiple ranged enemies, for example), then the lone wolf can't be blamed for not wanting to get anally probed from every direction.

With all that being said, it is of course always safe to assume that everyone involved is bunga except for anon, who will be unga.

>>533834453
Whichever group has a zealot or arbitrator is at fault

>>533834718
Furthermore
Don't bother with buying weapons until you're level 30, once you're level 30 all the weapons in the armory will have higher values and be much easier to level up in the long run, with the valuable few materials you'll have.
Every weapon can have every stat (the things that read mobility, damage, penetration, etc.) combine up to a total of 380%, the total value that each of these stats can reach (represented by the grayish-yellowish bar) being 80%. The result of each stat combining to a total of 380% means that one stat, called the DUMP STAT, can only go up to a total of 60%, and every other stat will be 80%. The dump stat is usually mobility, as everything else but mobility tends to affect DPS or damage in some way, but do note that some weapons have exceptions to this rule.
So, for that Revolver in your picture, you would be searching for one that can reach 80% in Damage, Reload Speed, Critical Bonus and Penetration, and only 60% Mobility. The reason for this is that the Mobility stat differs in no significant, perceivable way between 60 and 80%, and it does not affect damage.

What concrete info do we have about Franz Lohner's past?
Could he actually be Morgan Bernhardt, Commander of the Grudgebringers (the main character in both Rise of the Horned Rat & Dark Omen)?

>>533836940
It's absolutely within the realm of possibility; it's almost certain that he was a member of the Grudgebringers, but he also denies knowing the name Morgan Bernhardt at all, two statements which should very obviously be contradictory. Really I don't think it's set in stone at this point, and we'd need Fatshark to clarify things in a theoretical Ratclick 3. I like the way they've handled the lore integration for the Vermintide games a lot better than how they've done so for Darktide, and I suspect that may be due to more leniency on GW's part due to the lesser priority of Fantasy over 40k, so hopefully Fatshark would be given free reign to flesh things out without heavy interference.

>>533836940
He was in the grudgebringers, he had a nice sword, and he's met Karl Franz.

>Play executioner + focused
>Play at the back line
>Team runs 5-10 miles/km outward
>Get swarmed from behind
>Go down while no one notices the giant horde behind us
Holy fucking shit

>Check darktide official discord
>Fatshark absent
>Everyone just spamming shit unrelated to the game

>>533838353
Nordic vacation time, they won't be back til early winter.

>>533838258
>play executioner
lol

>>533838353
>Early winter
When?

>>533836940
The tabletop RPG confirms that he was an officer within the Grudgebringers - a cavalry man by the look of the banner, but nothing about a secret identity.

>>533837745
Ehh, I like what they’ve done so far but I do feel like it’s a very limited window into the universe, something Darktide also falls victim to too, but VT should be way ahead since they actually had a proper team on instead of the apparent skeleton crew that DT was stuck with.

not gonna lie I think skitarii are boring as shit. Would still buy and play if interesting enough, but they're the least interesting part of admech for me. I guess if they look close enough to tech priest it ain't so different..

>>533836930
I made this mistake with diabetes and now all the weaps I got thru the shop cost more to upgrade than it probably would to get a new one and upgrade..

the lion doesnt concern himself with the default hud

>>533846909
transgenderism the post

>>533846909
All this just to play chorus zealot, comedy

>>533846909
>chorus
trans and bad at the game!

the lion react semi sentimental to mean comments and wont gives them a (you)

>>533846909
>crusher zealot
don't let the haters get to you queen
(third person is kinda cringe though)

stop calling me trans please

>>533708936
>I hate being fat, slow,
wow you must really hate life then

You see a nigger in Havocs with a Veteran called "Coke", steam username "Gaara", don't queue with him. Stupid nigger ragequit on a down, I imagine because he assumed we couldn't win a fight against 1 weakened chaos spawn (we won). Plasmabot retard constantly on red ammo.

>>533851830
thanks for the report. I've added him to the official reddit blacklist. that kid should have thought twice.

How do I kill dregs
I completed all my other challanges but this one is 0

>>533852941
Kill dregs. Behead dregs. Roundhouse kick dregs into the hab-wall. Slam dunk dregs into the giant fan. Shoot dregs heads off. Report dregs to the Inquisition. Explode dregs into pieces. Curb stomp gunner dregs. Crush dregs with Thunder Hammer. Purify dregs with holy promethium. Cremate dregs in the smelter.

>>533852941
If you're doing the Rotten Armour event missions you won't find any, Scab only there. Otherwise just bad luck on your part with the enemy seeds.

>>533854512
I don't like Fatshark anymore

>>533852941
same mate, ran out of time because I couldn't find missions containing dregs

>>533855296
>contracts over, new ones come in
>oh fuck another dregs one
>reroll it
>collect 8 grimours
>mfw

>>533827516
>Ultimately my point was just that in Darktide, you can substitute that skill with knowledge.
While I agree for the most part, especially as someone myself who always approached games from the same angle of acquiring knowledge rather than rigorously practicing execution, and thus excels in havoc 40, I still don't think it's that simple.
>Knowledge is meaningless if you don't the necessary cool to apply it.
Every time you see someone clearly panic, they've failed this check. "OH SHIT" button mashing into a horde is always the wrong move. When shit goes tits up, you're supposed to use resources. Use your ability, throw a grenade, then either start sliding in circles or block push, while reassessing the situation. A lot of the time, taking a second to figure out what the fuck just went wrong is all it takes to salvage a situation, especially when someone just went down and you need to figure out whether it's possible to save them.
The above is also part of why chorus is so good. You just press the button and usually have/give a couple seconds to think.
>Knowledge is meaningless if you don't know how to, or can't, apply it for a lack of execution.
Or: The bubblecuck is scared to leave his cuck bubble because he's too dumb to chain slide through gunner fire. The vet main is afraid to engage crushers in melee because he never learned the melee combat. The average chorus zealot is fucking useless because he doesn't pay attention to his surroundings, and thus never uses chorus when he should.
Just paying attention to your surroundings will make you a better player than 95% of retards. No amount of knowledge or modding can replace keeping an eye on your teammates' health bars and pissing out toughness when you see theirs go down.
No amount of knowledge will save a low IQ individual from the Dunning Kruger effect crippling any hope of progress he had.

Im all for 32 64 player coop games
left 4 dead 2 in its modded servers is so much fun
playing darktide and going back to 4 players is just lame

Finally some Zola /34/ was made. Though it could be better.
Now hopefully for Sefoni.

>>533851830
>>533852758
This is so epic! We won sisters!

>>533856075
chinese nonsense

>>533860537
low iq response

>>533770139
>>533770409
Division 2 has one or two cute faces, and the hair/details are pretty good. 3ps though, so you basically gotta use the photo mode to see them.

>>533860537
cluster b personality disorder

>>533855763
I think this would be sensible if you couldn't literally, unironically be near permanently damage immune in darktide with the correct setup. It's too cheesable for the execution to matter anymore. You can drag an uprising player along to get true survivor provided you have the cheesy gold toughness spam setup going.

>>533855763
>let me tell as someone who gets carried why this game is actually easy, im so knowledgeable playing the baby classes!
you opinion is worthless

>>533861649
If this were true, considering the massive wealth of knowledge out there, regular talk about havoc 40, its builds, good team compositions, strategy and whatnot IN THIS VERY GENERAL, we wouldn't have an epidemic of hardstuckies shitting up every discussion on the subject with their completely retarded opinions that only reflect the actual unironic sub-human experiences they have in havoc 24 or wherever they're stuck at the present time.
So many retards struggle to even break havoc 30, let alone reach 40.
Many will never reach true survivor.
Even with all the supposed cheese.

>>533861991
See, there's one of those hardstuckies right there. He's even projecting things I didn't say.

>>533862242
>shits on bubble
>shits on toughness
>thinks hes the star of the show
your ego is leaking

>>533862425
>more schizo projections
I'm not shitting on the skills, I'm shitting on the average players using those. Maybe work on your reading comprehension and English literacy, Sukhdeep.

does anyone know if there's any trainers that lvl up every class in SM2 instantly, i don't have the time to grind the baby modes

>>533862540
you have no clue dead weight, you are replaceable and got carried, nothing you say applies to anything and your critique is just a sad attempt at stroking your own ego.

>>533862995
Every post you make only further confirms what I said in >>533862023 and I'm getting second-hand embarrassment from it. Please stop, anon. Take your meds.

>>533863167
>im so knwoledgeable and skillfull playing baby classes everyone who disagrees or shits on me is a hardstuckie!
you are a faggot my dude, you knowledge consists of holding the left mouse button and aiming at the head while everyone else is carrying your ass aka the classes you just shat on. the only thing embarassing here is your drivel

>>533863682
>tell me you haven't played havoc 40 without explicitly saying you haven't played havoc 40
If you had any clue what you're talking about, you would know just how retarded the average chorus zealot is. Virtually everyone that plays havoc 40 has had an abundance of really, really retarded chorus zealots that crutch on the ability to get accepted into groups, then take the role of dead weight.
I never once did, and never would, say that chorus is bad, but the ability has no impact when the player piloting it is a fucking retard. Why are you getting so defensive? Do you feel called out? Chorus zealot main can't breach havoc 30?
You are proving time and again that you do not play havoc at a relevant level, and thus have no place in the conversation.

>>533862023
>we wouldn't have an epidemic of hardstuckies shitting up every discussion on the subject
I said it before but
>the people who do fail to progress havoc either don't care for it or are actually very low IQ retards who can't even figure out the working cheese
It's not that there are hardstuckies, it's not a skill check they're stuck on tho.

In other words, other players just as shit as them get true survivor

>>533864780
>It's not that there are hardstuckies,
it's not that there are no hardstuckies*

>>533864154
spot on, look at how bad the average gold tuffness crutch babby is in your H40s and tell me with a straight face these people met any sort of skill check

>>533864154
yes, i press my button really good to piss toughness on you and you say mean words to me. My psyker bros feel the same. you are a fart face

>>533864154
Hard agree on this. I just don't let chorus zealots into my lobbies anymore, a bubble is more than enough.

Alright, can any anons tell me if there's some way to speed these penances up? They're all I have left to do on Zealot but they encourage such an un-fun playstyle and it feels like they progress at a snail's pace. Is there some cheese I can do, like can I use immolation grenades or some other AoE trick to blast through Behind Enemy Lines, or am I stuck running ahead of the team and manually doing my dumb little invisibility cuckwaddle behind shooters one at a time?
I accept that I need to do Unseen Assassin as intended and it's honestly not terrible, but holy hell I do not want to spend fifty more missions chipping away at BEL and at the current rate I'm going, that's what it'll take

>>533865202
>hard agree with -ACK
you are worthless without the yellow toughness
zealotkings keep ogrynchuds in check

>>533865018
>the only skillcheck...
>gets protected by vets from ranged enemies
>gets protected by psykers from trash, ranged AND gets toughness
>gets gold toughness and stuns from zealot
>im so skillfull guys! please notice me! im the star!

>>533865018
>look at how bad the average gold tuffness crutch babby is in your H40s and tell me with a straight face these people met any sort of skill check
Yeah that goes back to what I said about awareness. These retards pay no attention.
But it also applies to the point of knowledge. If they had any, they would stop playing the retarded toughness and melee damage build, trying to cope that they aren't a support class whose only useful team contribution is wipe prevention via chorus, and flaming down hordes. (cont. below)
>>533865202
Which is why I think it's important to inspect zealots, and reject any chorus zealot that uses the stupid melee damage build, especially the fucking retarded Mr. Estrogen version with backstab cdr that never comes up when it actually matters.

Idk what this other retard is on about, but his opinion is irrelevant anyway because he's stuck in the sub 30s. I primarily play chorus zealot myself and have no delusions about how easy it is with an actually good build and the necessary awareness to know when to use it. This is precisely why it's so painfully obvious to me when a chorus zealot is fucking worthless. I only distinctly remember playing with two GOOD chorus zealots in all of my havoc games, and both of them were using what would be considered trolling auto-decline meme builds to most of the retards here. Except their positioning, chorus usage, and grenade usage was on point, and they never went down.
Incidentally they were havoc 40 on their own assignments and True Survivors, unlike most of this general. Funny how that works huh.

>>533865334
If you're open to mods, get the Many More Try mod to access missions off the board. Then you can solo them and harvest all the kills after you let your bots die.
Note, missions only persist for 4 hours off board now and quickplay sorting technically lasts until the 3 hour mark (though weighted for fresh games).

>>533866025
Not only am I open to them, I actually already have MMT installed; it just completely slipped my mind that I could use it for shit like this. Thanks, anon.

>always hear about rashad being the best axe
>feels like absolute dog shit to use
>weird arc makes it easy to miss headshots
what am i missing? if i play combat axe its the antax, i want to give rashad a valid shot though but the moveset simply feels bad to me.

>>533865921
I see chorus I deny. I genuinely think fury, shroud and marty zealots are better. Chorus zealots aren't looking to improve at the game.

>>533865334
No real way to cheese it that I can think of. The most efficient way to do it, is playing like a stereotypical knife build faggot. Set up a knife for backstab rending and flak + unarmored or something and focus on backstab killing gunners and shooters with heavy or push attacks. The most cheese you can do is push an enemy for the stagger, then side dodge "behind" them for a backstab, the angle is pretty forgiving iirc.
I think the best way to do these is on difficulties below auric where being a loner faggot doesn't actually hurt the team. Even so, focus on getting a small handful of kills, then use your insane mobility to regroup with the team. Bring an infantry lasgun or something, so you're actually useful when you're not being a loner fag, since it can horde clera and kill bosses good.

Explain how somebody can fuck up Chorus or tell me that I'm the fucking shitter when I piss on team:
>when a big mixed horde is about to hit us
>when I see somebody getting smacked around during a fight or shot
>when I need to disrupt enemies or push into shooters and disrupt them
>to cover revives
>when somebody doesn't have piss cloak
I'm sure I've forgotten a couple things to list too, but is there much more to it? Are people in your guys' lobbies just not pissing?

>>533865921
>feels the need to lie about playing chorus
pathetic cuck, probably replying to himself to make it seem less pathetic (it still is). Ogryniggers look really bad today

All I can say is I play a H40 weekly to this day, and I've probably met more actually good players in aurics than among the boring meta faggots on H40. Not an exaggeration.
There were even more good players pre-p13, back when there was only hi int damnation

>>533866543
It's not that chorus zealots are bad, it's that CHORUS itself is an overrated ability. This is what these guys are failing to see: it's not the player, it's legitimately that chorus is not as useful as they've been led to believe. This is the unironic redpill.

>>533866373
I have to agree just based on experience with dumb zealots, but it all depends on what mindset you approach forming a group with. If all you care about is winning, having a chorus zealot is basically optimal, but if that zealot is a retard, he might as well not exist. On the other hand, while it's probably safe to say that players who have the balls to apply for havoc without a chorus build are almost always going to be better players, FotF offers nothing to a team that an arbitrator doesn't do better, while also doing more, even IF the FotF zealot is likely a better player. Stealth is uniquely powerful though, I won't deny that.

>>533866569
>he's still making schizo projections
I had an 8 game loss streak in h40 on ogryn, so I figured the problem was some combination of me being bad at ogryn (possibly true) and chorus zealots being absolute dogshit (definitely true), so I just went back to zealot, where I just win most games.
I've played chorus ever since havoc came out, got True Survivor on like the second weekend, and haven't really changed my build much since. Cope all you want, it's painfully obvious to everyone else that you're just mad and bad. Maybe it's time to kill yourself already.

>>533866598
This is just because those are easier and less knowledge and mechanically-demanding, so it's easier to make yourself look good, anon.

>shit on toughness yesterday
>gaslight ogryn into hating zealots, not that it was needed but he was a cocksucker anyway
>uuum acktually guys, toughness is a scam, zealot sucks
love you guys you have the combined iq of 40. i will now play chorus in peace knowing i wont have to deal with you

>>533867054
i love how you stay so civil why do you even keep reply to me dude, ive played maybe grand total of 10 games with chorus and its a shit tier skill that does nothing of worth. sorry to have been a cunt but you sound like one yourself talking down on the real stars of the show, psykers. anyway i will stop bothering

>>533867309
You don't play havoc 40.

>>533867057
Absolutely not, there's way more "make it or break it" situations in havocs

>>533867376
nope

Fucking finally. I've been wanting the green thingy for ages now, taking a break was a mistake.

If you just want golden toughness, I don't see the point in chorus when you can have a Veteran with a 15s golden toughness, compared to the 10s total of chorus and with half the cooldown.
Even if you are below your max toughness by the time the Vet shouts, you will still get the piss once you regain it.

>>533867749
nevermind that it takes like 5 seconds to get the toughness back while he just stand there being useless the entire time

>>533867749
Veteran makes a single mistake and just dies. Zealot tanks through the worst shit imaginable and just gets a cooldown refresh for another 5 seconds of aoe stun.
I still think you want both. Veteran is very fucking good, but I don't think shout is a major contributor to what makes the class strong (it's just the best ability it has)

Explicator Zola looks like THIS?!?!?!?!?!?!? AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>533868179
made for BOC (Big Ogryn Cock)

>>533868941
Aqshy said that while she worked on DT, they decided that ogryns canonically are not gendered because theyre vat grown
Your ogryn has no penis

>>533869132
>letting transgenders play with your fictions again

>>533869132
Oh my ogryn has a penis
He has a big ol' juicy cock swinging between his legs

>>533868179
Ew let me see Hadron's delectate machinery

>>533869587
Also I need Marrow in the Zardoz outfit

>>533869582
i got a 3 day ban on the forums for replying to her post saying that exact thing

>>533870068
You're based for saying it

>>533870068
should have been a life ban so you spend all your time here instead

>>533868179
>Even the porn artists are mocking Fatshark's work ethic now

>>533865921
what's your chorus talent tree

>>533870068
Be glad you got 3 days, in other places you permabanned from discord/forum and in-game for much less

>>533871278
I still wish I could run the DR more often because it's just plain better, but retards just can't kill shit without the damage for some reason.

>i shat on the chorusGOD by mistake
now i feel kinda dumb since i base all my builds around yours

>>533874038
good rules of thumb for when to chrous or flamer? new to the havoc climb, thanks for the helpful image

>>533869132
>they decided that ogryns canonically are not gendered
I’m pretty sure they didn’t say that just that they’re vat grown

>>533868179
>there’s no option to strip all the NPCs down naked into their underwear aboard the Morningstar
soulless

For missions like the smelter one, why don't they bring in marines or the entire army to recover their smelters and such?

>>533877521
because four rejects sufice

>>533875642
You chorus
>when there are so many enemies that you can't kill them before they push you back
>while aggressively while side-sliding into gunners that would otherwise pop the bubble
>to stun monstrosities off a cliff or into a corner
>to make room for objectives or revives
>when you just almost ate shit and dipped into your health, because it pretty much always gives you a refill
>when you see your allies' toughness dropping
>when things are going bad and you need a moment to think
>when you just flamered a massive horde that is about to die and you have a psyker, since you get a cooldown refresh anyway
You flamer with
>primary fire into dense hordes of chaff when you have to move, think Archivum Sycorax blast door section
>primary fire into gunners to suppress them
>primary fire into an approaching group of ragers until they stagger
>primary and secondary fire into enemies coming from behind that nobody else is looking at
>secondary fire into dense hordes that would otherwise take too long to kill
>secondary fire into monstrosities until they're down to like 1/4
>secondary fire into bulwarks because chances are you are the best at taking care of them
Keep your flamer on target. If there's chaff whacking you, just slide when you hear the noise. Get good at timing your slides even when you run out, you'll fucking need it if you want to keep Blaze Away stacks up.
Don't flamer JUST for crushers unless either you or the psyker has brittleness, it's just a waste of ammo otherwise. If you must, make sure you immediately swap to your uncanny weapon after maxing out burn stacks, and get your uncanny stacks up fast. Special -> light -> repeat is the fastest attack speed on the dueling sword for getting stacks up.

>>533869132
No they are gendered, female ogryns do exiat in 40k, but in darktide they are just vatgrown. And it's the explanation why there are so many fucking ogryns on atoma system and why they are all male.

The real reason why female ogryns don't exist in darktide is purely because GW has never made official models or even art depictions of female ogryns. Meaning fatshark isn't allowed to put them in even of they wanted unless GW makes female ogryns first. And there is nothing indicating they would. This is one of the primary reasons as to why any future classes we do get won't be stuff like felinids, longshanks or nightsiders or other obscure stuff.
It'd be cool, but if only has few sentences describing it in a footnote in a book and beyond that has no art depictions, it's not gonna appear in darktide.

>wanna play havoc 40
>EU dead hours
>switch to US server, what's the worst that could happen
>two of them instantly die to a weakened monstrosity IN THE FIRST ROOM
>2 more spawn, other retard also eats shit
>wipe not even 3 minutes in
>check their builds
>SEE THIS
I-
I don't even have words for this, what the fuck?

>>533877521
The smelter isn't that big. The forces under Dukane's command are already spread thin as is. Also we're cut off from the rest of the Imperium because of massive warp storms so marines and most outside help in general are off the table

>>533879376
This is fucked up.

>>533879008
They'll make fem custodes but they won't make fem ogryn. Strangely selective. I wonder what the difference is.

>>533879376
I am convinced that americans who play this game are all collectively retarded.
It's also where most of the whinging about toxicity and shitters or other players comes from.
They are just same as russians but you can actually understand them.

>>533880118
>but you can actually understand them.
I asked them if they were trolling because I couldn't believe they were actually that bad.
They had like a minute to respond between the cliffed/bleed-out timer and the mission end screen. All I got was crickets.

>>533879908
>I wonder what the difference is
Yes, politics everybody knows but nobody truely gives a shit.
Also the truth that nobody gives a shit about ogryns.

Not like it matters, custodes as a whole are never going to appear in darktide in all anyway.

>>533880342
Did you make sure to ask in American?

>>533879376

>>533880708
I asked in text chat.
>54% of U.S. adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level
So I guess, in a way, I didn't?

>>533878075
what about when to use my grenades? just had a game where i got no pickups and i coudlnt tell if i got any value out of them

>>533880947
why do you think they were american?

>>533881092
Grenades go out when a horde spawns during a captain fight. With monstrosities, you just position yourself to flamer through them and the horde, but it's worthless against human bosses, so you can just let your grenades do the work.
If you're the only one able/not retarded/paying attention to the hexbound, always start with an immolation grenade. Two of them kill the entire ritual, and if you eat shit in-between you can just chorus to buy yourself space until the first one runs out, then throw another and run back to your team.
Sometimes you can't find room to pull out and use your flamer effectively. You'll know when. Switching to immolation grenades and throwing one is extremely fast so you can just weave those in between your dodges/stun pokes/blocks.
If you're about to enter a room and there's a really dense crowd, you can usually afford to throw a grenade vaguely in front of them, then run in and open with chorus.
If you get a massive clown car of like 20+ regenerating armored enemies, you can also toss a nade before you flamer. Blaze Away applies to your grenade damage, so you're double dipping damage for actually very good DPS against anything but carapace. It's also one of the rare arguments in favor of using the brittleness blessing over the crit mag refund, but I definitely prefer being able to just hold down the trigger into ultra dense hordes and/or monstrosities.
Generally speaking, you want to use your first grenade relatively soon, but hold on to your last one until you know you need it.

>>533880864
Wtf blueberry ‘tania…….. O.o

>>533880947

>>533883483
Kek

>>533880947
i’d like to see that broken down by demographic

>memory crashed in the moment your h40 team needed you most
ngmi

>>533884241
60% white, math is pretty straightforward from there

>>533874038
>fire nades AND flamer
genuinely how retarded can one be. I had one nigger running this in a lobby and he predictably got killed trying to chase specialists that he couldn't kill from a distance.
This is the build of someone begging to get carried. Blades of Faith are obligatory with Flamer, you're trying to reinvent the wheel here.
>>533875642
Do not listen to this guy

>>533884325
I'm regularly winning havoc 40s and got True Survivor without much effort.
You're acting like generalist builds are absolutely necessary and specialists can't function, which tells me you don't play havoc. Keep your retarded auric opinions out of this discussion, you do not belong.

>>533884325
i mean, lots of co-op games have different teammates filling different roles, no? if you're using party finder to make sure your team is good at special killing then it's fine right? also running around chasing specialists into your death feels like user error you can skill issue your way out of

>>533879376
Jesus fucking Christ

>>533884531
There's nothing "generalist" about being a functioning player, which every class is capable of, except you when you run this build, and a Psyker running Smite and Inferno Staff which is similarly retarded. You're not regularly winning games, anyone who plays through the party finder can tell you that you can hardly rely on teammates to stay on their feet, there's no world where entirely forfeiting your ability to reasonably eliminate targets further than 10 feet from you works "because your teammates can do it". Again, you are getting carried; likely playing through pre-mades with robots that no-life this game if you are truly "regularly" winning and confidently relying on teammates to entirely pick up your slack.

Howdy anons, is veteran still cracked?

>>533884927
The all too common scenario is that you are the only one in a position to kill a high priority target and can't entirely expect your busy teammates to do it. For example, letting a Trapper flee and giving them the chance to ambush you again is not something you should be allowing to happen if you can help it, which, for this scenario, you often CAN'T help it if you are running that build. This isn't being a generalist, this is a basic core ability that you shouldn't abandon for something so redundant.

>>533885381
>blah blah blah cope cope cope
>when you run a shit composition you lose
Yeah no shit retard.
>premade cope projections
You niggers are incorrigible.

>>533884325
>genuinely how retarded can one be
Pretty retarded apparently since you don't seem to grasp that they don't completely overlap one another's roles. Losing knives does hurt, but you can melee most specials if need be, and a lot die in purg/flamer zones anyway, not to mention what other teammates are doing. Flamer + incendiaries is fine in 40, especially since you have to give something significant up to take knives because Fatshit still hasn't even revamped Zealot's tree to lessen the needless point taxing.

>>533885827
>shit composition
YOU are the shit composition, dude

>>533885594
Yes, though anons will probably argue otherwise on the basis that Ogryn is extremely strong now and Arbitrator is essentially failproof if you have more than one braincell. The only issue vet currently actually has is a relative lack of build variety.

Now that the dust has settled, we can finally agree the KF3 hate was overblown by drama-hungry 'tubers and turbo autists

>>533888401
lmao. No, those of us who were saying it looked like shit didn't buy it and don't give a shit about the game and therefore don't talk about it. If you enjoy it, good for you. I might pick it up a year or two from now during a big sale depending on what they've improved by then. In the mean time, I'll just play 1 or 2.

>>533888401
This bit is stale now man

>>533888401
I played the beta and wasn't impressed. Even if they improve the game in some way, it still wouldn't feel close to a killing floor game to me, so It's just a passive disinterest. I don't really feel contempt because I saw this coming after watching kf2's dev cycles towards the middle of its lifespan.

Just found this out: the "Unstoppable Force" blessing for Cleavers works on any heavy attack, charged or not. The wording is deceptive.
This essentially means you can cleave Carapace with the Cleavers. It ignores all hit mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHKymlJIjM

>>533893714
NOW THATS WHY WE KEEP AN OGRYN AROUND

Realistically i think everyone would keep an ogryn around if they could. Imagine walking around with your own virtually indestructible hyper strong retard who mostly does what you say and all you have to do is feed him a metric ton of food every day

>>533893997
their claustrophobia can be a bitch to deal with
YOU DON'T want to have 1 ton panicking autist inside your transport

>>533893714
I clicked expecting high-impact sexual violence. I got domestic abuse.

>>533874038
NTA but im a chorus hater and decided to try this just to build a more informed opinion of this and wow this shit is stupidly strong. The amount you're able to brute force pubbers thru situations is crazy. If you have any degree of specialist killing to cover your weakness there, you can be such a massive force multiplier you can get your sleepwalking ogryn that doesn't know which way is up through a havoc 40. went from super iffy h40 pubs i had to super lock in to have a chance of winning, to winning every pub i did with this build while casually strolling through the level for the most part. truly despicable.

I'd probably prefer 3 revive speed over the corruption and bomber resist though

>havoc 40, Hab Dreyko
>about to extract, just gotta walk up the curved pipe
>completely out of resources
>beast of nurgle spawns in front
>psyker didn't bring bubble so we have no safe way of fighting it
>spend 4 minutes kiting it around the valkyrie because the one guy who got separated downstairs refused to kill himself so we could extract
kek
We still got the W in the end, but man, this would've been over after the first minute if he had just khs. Him and the other guy still ended up dying anyway and the burgle survived so there was no point to this.

>38% uptime on Chorus
breddy gud
>but only 24% on Chorus buff
I really wish I had room for TWBS but it's just so fucking expensive. Still convinced the TDR is better, because it lets me tank a crusher overhead for only 50% health bleedthrough, and I imagine it's similar for other classes benefitting from the buff. Might warrant testing, but setting up a test environment is such a colossal pain in the ass.
>only 17% on crit dodge blessing
I blame Smite, and I wish I could justify Shred instead, but I don't want to have to worry about missing. Maybe I should give Thrust another earnest try, but I feel like crit chance is too important for Chorus uptime.
>more melee damage than ranged
Ranged, ammo vacuum arbitrators are borderline griefing, but he did get like 800k ranged damage so I guess he wasn't entirely useless. Castigator's Stance also feels like griefing, BTL or Nuncio would've been infinitely more useful. Tbf his build was complete dogshit, he had dog without Voltaic Mandibles or Canine Morale, and fucking maxed Execution Order when it doesn't even work properly. I'm kinda surprised by how much he ended up doing with such a retarded build, but I guess that's testament to how overpowered the class is. Unsure how much the psyker and I carried him, but I definitely didn't feel his impact since we were constantly fighting for our lives.

>>533894724
>I'd probably prefer 3 revive speed over the corruption and bomber resist though
Yeah, I've been experimenting with 1x corruption resist, 2x revive speed myself. The bomber resist definitely isn't necessary, it's just very comfortable and a safer way of getting a cooldown refresh when intentionally standing inside of bombs. 2-3x revive speed is definitely "better" when playing with complete morons that can't stop hugging the floor.

Also yeah, the only force multiplier stronger than this build is psykinetic's aura, but every psyker brings that anyway, and those that don't go on the ignore list, no exception.

>>533895041
>a safer way of getting a cooldown refresh when intentionally standing inside of bombs
doesn't the bomber resist have anti syngergy with the purpose of farming cdr off the bombs? you'll have to spend longer in the bomb to get your ability off CD

>>533894776
>but only 24% on Chorus buff
>I really wish I had room for TWBS but it's just so fucking expensive
Wait, you got staggered out of about a third of your Choruses? No way. I'll have to disable buff management and turn this on next time I'm in the mood for Havocs. I swear I only get knocked out of one or two most games.
>Still convinced the TDR is better, because it lets me tank a crusher overhead for only 50% health bleedthrou
That's pretty niche though. You have a relatively small window where you don't have the gold toughness preventing the bleedthrough and being able to make the already rare fuck-up of eating an overhead. Of course, 30% more additive damage may not even be shifting breakpoints (not like we can fucking test H40 shit in the Meat Grinder still reeeee. And I'm too lazy to go into solo play H40s to test shit)
>only 17% on crit dodge blessing
Smite and other forms of CC are significant detriments to Riposte, yeah. As for Shred vs Thrust, consider that BP is already giving you an extra 15% to Zealot's base 5%. 20% CHC on a fast-attacking weapon will keep IOD up quite frequently so long as you are actually engaging in melee since IOD is now a 4s duration talent and doesn't give its full effect on proc.
>Ranged, ammo vacuum arbitrators are borderline griefing
>borderline
It's even worse with a flamer on team in H40. Castigator is definitely the worst choice for many reasons, including the team-play aspect. Dude sounds like the classic shitter Arbites player.

>>533895213
>doesn't the bomber resist have anti syngergy
It does and it doesn't. Fire bombs fucking HURT, and the actual application of this is standing inside of fire while channeling chorus. I usually have my cooldown back up by the time the toughness runs out. The only anti-synergy for cooldown refresh is tox bombers, but here the benefit is (barely) net positive toughness generation while channeling.
If you're already out of toughness, walking into fire sucks really bad, the damage ticks are fucking massive, and a bit of resist goes a long way. Doing so is obviously very niche and also avoidable, so dropping bomber resist is the LAST thing I'd object when it comes to changing the build.
I'd definitely keep 1 corruption resist however, because health builds tend to take fuckloads of damage, and preventing a wound is a big deal with purity aura, especially with the narrower window you have for receiving a wound when running Faith's Fortitude for +2.

>>533895641
>Wait, you got staggered out of about a third of your Choruses?
It's almost exclusively to poorly positioned monstrosities that don't stagger on the second pulse. Mostly positioning errors on my part, but not all of them are reasonably possible to dodge when I'm already cornered and fighting for my life. Also keep in mind that that stat table is from a really rough game, it's not usually that bad.
>(TDR is) pretty niche though.
Even a conservative 25% overall uptime of 40% TDR probably translates to 50% uptime of 40% TDR when it really fucking matters. It's extremely difficult to quantify just how useful this actually is, and I don't obsessively record runs or stats to be able to say for sure, but my conjecture would be that it's extremely good at keeping your retards alive. The +30% additive damage are also very good of course, but classes that already stack damage (damage zealot, all arbitrators, ogryns) mathematically don't benefit as much from it, so I'd only bring it into double regen/resist modifiers where every point of damage counts.
>As for Shred vs Thrust, consider that BP is already giving you an extra 15% to Zealot's base 5%.
Yeah, I'll try maining Shred for a while for the express reason that BP can and will actually run out when a boss fight takes too long, giving me high crit rate during the fight anyway, even when I can't get a dodge for the crit buff.
>Dude sounds like the classic shitter Arbites player.
I can't hate on the guy, he at least carried his own weight without taking a knee all the time, but it was pretty embarrassing.

>>533895641
>Wait, you got staggered out of about a third of your Choruses?
Also two more thoughts that just came to me while taking a shit:
1.) It takes about 4 seconds of channeling from the time you press the button, until the 5th pulse where the buff actually applies, but Chorus lasts starting at the first pulse, and ending 10 seconds after the last pulse, meaning Holy Cause or Ecclesiarch's Call are only active for 11.6s out of 15.6s, or ~74.4% uptime even assuming optimal play.
Doing the math on 24.1 over 38.2, it comes out to ~63.1%, so I wasn't actually missing as much as the stats imply.
2.) Regardless of theoretical optimal play, having any amount of toughness is always infinitely more important than having +75 or +40% TDR, especially on classes that have enough inherent toughness regen (ogryn, arbitrator, psyker, of which I had all three) to keep themselves topped up. Just having 1 gold toughness still gives you the health gate, which isn't as relevant as the +75 +40% if you actually know how to play, but if you're constantly eating sniper shots or bursters to the face, like retards often do, the actual amount of toughness isn't as important.
Or: While it's obviously optimal to let Chorus channel all the way through, just the +15 gold from the first pulse are often enough to keep everyone alive, and I'd rather risk not channeling the entire thing, over my psyker getting one tapped.

fr fr deadass block dweller fanum taxed me

>>533897459
Skibidi

>>533897459
eyooo grok is that true?

did they remove Ogryn voice lines from inspecting grenade?

>>533896128
>It's almost exclusively to poorly positioned monstrosities that don't stagger on the second pulse
Makes sense. I hadn't meant it as a criticism or "hur dur me better". More of an "this probably happens more than I realize" thing.
>Even a conservative 25% overall uptime of 40% TDR
Oh, no I hadn't meant that the TDR itself was niche. I meant the overhead prevention was niche since gold toughness does that any and persists fora while after you finish channeling, so part of the 10s TDR buff duration is (most of the time) overlapped by gold toughness. I definitely see the value overall.

>Also two more thoughts that just came to me while taking a shit:
I just fucking finished doing that kek.
>It takes about 4 seconds of channeling from the time you press the button, until the 5th pulse where the buff actually applies, but Chorus lasts starting at the first pulse,
Ah. Right. I feel silly

>>533897459
I started reading something the other day (can't remember now what it even was), but one of the characters said, "for real for real," and I instantly closed the tab. I pray the future of novels isn't this.

>>533899029
No cap

>>533896128
Oh, one thing you might've forgotten with regards to:
>Yeah, I'll try maining Shred for a while for the express reason that BP can and will actually run out when a boss fight takes too long, giving me high crit rate during the fight anyway
Base BP works off nearby kills, so you'll probably still have it running most monster engagements because you never really get a reprieve from the horde to fight the monster on its own anyway in 40s. Somebody, if not you, will probably be keeping your BP going for you most of the time anyway in case that affects your decision any.

>>533899402
>Somebody, if not you, will probably be keeping your BP going for you
Considering the amount of times I've had captain fights where BP ran out, I know this to be false. Even if it's rare.

>>533899475
Really? I don't typically pay attention to it, but that does surprise me. Seems like high Havoc players are pretty good at dispersing themselves to horde or boss duty as needed, especially the Psykers who just hold down the Purg. Well shit

>auric quickplay
>two downs back to back even with chorus AND shout
>chorus again, nobody comes to help the downed retards
>don't want to get them up in fire because I KNOW FOR A FACT that these out-of-their-depth-malicelets are just going to instantly die

>>533895041
On my Beetus I run 3x cdr, 3x gunner and 3x revive. The revive speed has been VERY noticeable, I often get people up before something forces me out. It was enough to make me put at least 2x revive on every class. I was also considering maybe swapping the 12% CDR with 3x block efficiency because I still fail a few revives because of stamina break.

>>533899675
One of the many reasons I haven't bothered to use Chorus in Auric since shortly after the talent tree rework that gave it to us.

>>533899675
how is it their fault if anyone pick them up in fire, you know psyker dies before pick up animation even finishes

>>533900706
>admitting to being a retard
You can dodge slide out of it before you die. Always.

I accept you concession.

>>533901005
No you can't. There is no magic button that will teleport you away, you literally have no control of your character when you die.
Maybe if you have piss toughness and multiple hp/anti-corrupt curios, but it's a stupid investment because if you have retards that pick you up in fire on your team, it's not gonna help you win anyway, better invest in something useful.

>>533901005
This isn't true at all.

FYI fire damage still ramps up while you're downed

>>533899816
>I was also considering maybe swapping the 12% CDR
Veto.
BTL's base cooldown is 20, curios bring it down to 17.6, but the -5s node always applies the flat -5 after all modifiers.
I'm also pretty sure that all other forms of cooldown reduction work the same way, meaning they become exponentially more powerful the more % CDR you have. I believe Seer's Presence (psyker -10%) is the only exception to this, but it's not like the diminishing returns are big enough to matter.

>>533901807
>>533901884
Unless you are dead center in a bomber puddle, you can always side dodge and slide out of the fire, and nobody will res you dead center in the fire. If you have any amount of max toughness, max HP, TDR, etc. you WILL survive. Keep in mind that the context here was aurics.
This does change in havoc. There's a reason running (at least some) health curios and 1x bomber resist is strong on psyker.
>le no le you le can't
Explain why I'm able to do this and you aren't?

Im so lsost in pillars 2
the quest long is really not that intutive.
Got any free big crpg games ?

got banned 7 days for racism I don't understand indians are not even humans.

>>533901005
maybe (You) can. But 99% of randos die if you res them in fire. Don't do it.

Killing Floor 1 and 2 were janky, just 'okay' games, but they had soul.

Why are people surprised that Killing Floor 3 is shit garbage?

>>533904037
>me: revive vet in fire
>vet: dies
>vet: did you seriously just res me in fire?
>me: funny right?
>vet: hilarious

>>533904314
when did KF2 get soul?
7 years from now they'll make KF4 and people will say it's missing the soul from KF3, lol.

>>533904659
it's ok to be born in 2007

>>533904914
so true.
But at that point it's unlikely they ever played kf1 and 2.

I was trying to climb my havoc but was loosing every game. Said fuck it and swap to shield ogryn with taunt keystone and hug my psycher and vet all the timer and suddenly all games went smooth. Basically discovered that using heavy push heavy is the best combo so far and light attack spam is kinda redundant. What blessing do you reccomed fellow ogryns on shield ? (Currenty using ignoring mass and toughness on chained hit) Also is using defensive stance worth it or should i stay with heavy spam ?

>>533905348
put skullcrusher on yer shield

>>533905348
Skull crusher and brutal momentum
You can spam the first heavy attack by block canceling out of the second heavy attack and then drag the hit across multiple enemies. The attack is a jab, but the hit is active for a while which means you can hit an enemy in front of you and spib 360 and it will hit everything around if that attack was a weakspot kill and you have brutal momentum

>>533905348
>hug my psycher and vet all the timer and suddenly all games went smooth.
Playing the bodyguard for your squishies is indeed very strong. This should ideally be the role of the arbitrator or zealot, since ogryn with taunt prefers to pull enemies around, but taunt IS good at keeping your allies alive, and Go Again! IS extremely good, and I think Valuable Distraction is overrated (if also very strong ofc).
>psycher
Appropriate image choice.
>Basically discovered that using heavy push heavy is the best combo so far and light attack spam is kinda redundant.
Light attack spam on shield is trash. In the extremely niche scenario that you might be surrounded exclusively by chaff, L1 -> H2 gives you the most cleave, but 99% of the time you are better off just alternating H1 -> H2.
If you want to do just H1, you can simply tap block between attacks instead of pushing. If you don't want to autistically micro manage your attacks, install Skitarius mod and configure it to heavy -> block -> loop at step 1. You can still manually light attack or H2 that way.
>What blessing do you reccomed fellow ogryns on shield ?
Skullcrusher. I haven't played enough h40 ogryn to confidently say whether Opportunist or Brutal Momentum is better. It's too rare that I get weakspot kills for ignoring hit mass to matter, but +15% weak spot damage is good. Rending is obviously good, but enemies don't usually stay staggered for long enough. Confident strike might be good, but I doubt you'll need or feel it against anything other than bosses, if you're spamming taunt.
>Also is using defensive stance worth it
It's utter shit until it isn't. The only use is turtling against bosses, or occasionally plugging a choke with 6 gorillion gunners on the other side so your team can pick them off. Both of which should ideally never come up in the first place.

>>533905470
>>533906056
>>533906151
Thanks, i will get better and carry squishies to h40 now

>>533893997
If I had one I would order him to just start tearing every person in sight in half.

>>533907162
I'd order him to tear my ass up

>>533902595
banned from what
>>533904914
no it’s not. kill anyone born after 2005.

>rolling steel again
>retards can't move and fight at the same time again
>arbitrator struggling to survive again
>several downs even through chorus spam again
>sniper kills two again
>end up running out of time again
I just want my fucking melk assignments done, man.

>there are two types of racist

>>533837745
>It's absolutely within the realm of possibility; it's almost certain that he was a member of the Grudgebringers, but he also denies knowing the name Morgan Bernhardt at all, two statements which should very obviously be contradictory.
According to >>533839520 Lohner was absolutely part of the Grudgebringers, so the last statement is certainly bullshit; of course that begs the question if he was the *commanding* officer (aka Bernhardt) or simply a lower-ranked officer within the same regiment.
>and I suspect that may be due to more leniency on GW's part due to the lesser priority of Fantasy over 40k.
Well tbf when the Vermintide games were developed Fantasy was already planned and subsequently went KA-BOOM, hence the lesser priority and more freedom to work with the fluff. Idk if GW would have given such creative responsibility now, since Fantasy (through TOW) has gained astronomical popularity.

>>533686195 (OP)
/ourguy/ HATES kf3
https://youtu.be/B4tlUaXvd08

>No news or anything of slop shop

>>533907963
Buy an ad.

>>533907991
>No news
I read this as "no waves"
I need to fucking sleep and finally finish a fucking playthrough of this game

>>533908346
WHERE DA FUCK IS EYETIDE
FUCKING CUNTS RELEASE THE EA ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEE

>>533908465
2 more weeks

>>533908720

>>533907963
>2hrs
Shan't be watching

>>533907963

>>533907963
15 min in, so far i agree with everything. Gameplay is good, but everything else is fucked one way or another
t. enjoyed 60 hours in kf3

Are we ready for the darktide killer?

>>533908720
>Streumon studios

aaaand it will be shite

>>533909061
your mom is shite

>>533909028
As long don't get a shit shop like Darktide and staff lazy as fuck

>>533909186
They only made 3 janky games so far, 2 of them are total garbage and one is a meme-tier niche game most people didn't play but love to meme about. It will be shite.

>>533908720
>>533909028
>french studio
>expecting something good
You kids never learn.

>The same devs that made Space Hulk Deathwing and let it to die months later

>fatshart defense squad is scared
huh oh, eyegawds will own this general by the end of the month

>>533909787
do you ever get tired of pretending to be retarded or is it just natural at this point

>>533909028
>oversized weapons
ruined

>>533909529
>>533909061
StreumOn's games were dead on arrival, janky to fuck, and unsupported. This will be no different.

>>533909787
Many other games in the "Acknowledged but not really discussed" fans claimed that, ask them how it turned out. The silence is your answer.

Tanner is going to play eyetide....you guys are heckin done

FBC Firebreak will rule /coopg/ some day, you'll see

I loved EYE. I'll happily buy their next game. I hadn't heard about it until now.

Idk why you guys have to be negative about everything

>>533909918
rape all trannimals

>>533910274
>Idk why you guys have to be negative about everything
Because >>533909996
It's probably going to be really fun, and then become the most wasted potential imaginable by receiving updates for like 2 months and then getting dropped.
And that's without fixing any gamebreaking bugs because StreumOn.

NOSH

>>533908720
>>533908834
>>533909028
>>533909787


Un ptit kebab: the game

>>533910274
>I loved EYE.
me too, but their next games space hulk and necromunda were big disappointments. That's why i'm cautious.

>>533910274
I got burned pretty hard by preordering spacehulk desu.
If the game ends up being cool, then I'll buy it. But I'm incredibly skeptical of games until they actually come out these days. There are just way too many almost shovelware tier games that come out, not even out of malice or cashing out, but out of sheer incompetence or mishandled projects, and streums track record doesn't paint a good picture. I want the game to be cool, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>533867705
Gz, that's a neat frame.

>>533880118
>They are just same as russians
If nothing else subhuman r*skies probably "play better", if only because of picrel

>>533912131
>italy
JE LE SAVAIS PUTAIN

>>533907963
>2 hours
nah bro

>>533913081
wow this guy is making a statement

>>533904341
heh

>>533908720
>>533908834
>>533909787
Looks cool. As long as they're not charging more than 40 bucks for this I'll pick it up and bring some friend/s along with me.

>>533908720
it's probably going to be ass but i still can't wait

>decided to do Ogryn penances
>lucky bullet, gun lugger with twin linked stubber
>expect it to be shit
>it is actually good fun
wish free ammo was more frequent, don't feel like hoovering all the damn ammo just to mow down room full of gunners/shit gunners/reapers and maulers
oh well, the deed is done back to melee ogryn

>>533916594
Allow me to teach you a forbidden, secret exploit that ogryn aren't allowed to use.
Try crouching and bracing before you fire. Fire in small bursts instead of holding down the trigger. Aim for their heads. Use your melee when enemies are coming to you.
With these esoteric techniques, you'll end up using less ammo than the average tardbitrator.

>The emperor was a turk all along

>>533916989
*Anatolian
Ftfy

>>533765536
>-1
fucking shitter

>>533917151
That's a minus for you too

>>533917105
Turk rape baby*
Ftfy

>>533880118
>They are just same as russians but you can actually understand them.

That statement just rocked my world ngl

>>533916984
already did that but...
>team doesn't tag shit unless it is right in front of them
>LSD visual make it difficult to see anything
>either I feel like a dick and get ammo constantly or the resident arby who needs whole ammo bag after shooting twice from his diarrhea gun

>>533804991
Game is fun. Just be prepared to deal with ultra retards who appear to be actively working against you.

>>533804991
Fun as f*ck

>>533917838
If he just started playing he won't see those in 20-30 hours, until he reaches haz4 or something like that.

Saw someone discussing the sapper shovel earlier, but can't find the post now. It made me wanna try running one again for a few missions. What Mark? and what Blessings should I be running? I usually just use the Assault-Chainsword MK-XIIIg

>>533919131
Mobility is the dump-stat right?

>>533804991
Fun as f*ck

>>533919131
default is great for crowd control, the special has huge stagger value, enough to stop mutants mid charge or crushers mid swing
for blessings you have a lot of options, I run it with decimator + take a swing for mowing down hordes while using plasma for armor

mk8 with thrust and uncanny for CRUSHERS could be here, the uncharged special is enough to one shot most specials including mutants as well

>>533919257
>1) mobility 2) defences
Everything that isn't offense/dmg numbers, and possibly ammo, is the dump stat.

>>533919725
Plenty of weapons want to dump dmg

>>533919781
no

>bookbots ruin nearly half the general
this place is as casul as reddit sometimes

>>533919725
wdym you don't dump ammo? there's plenty of it in the mission

>>533919963
>flamer
>knife
>flame staff

>>533920020
no

Playing Medic has awoken some previously untapped rage locked deep within my soul.

Please I beg of you. Buy armor. Use your ult. Use turrets. Stop splitting the group. Stop running off alone. When you see the giant blue cloud that debuffs enemies and heals you, stand in it. When you see the giant blue circle that makes you immortal, doubles your damage and speed, and kills enemies, stay inside it. My blood pressure can't take this. If I see another Ninja run across the map, try to 1v3 a flesh pound and two scrakes, die, get revived, run away again, and die again six seconds later, I'm going to have some kind of nervous breakdown .

>>533907321
>2005
You mean 1999, right

>>533912131
>China not on the list
>Israel that low
I don't believe this fake data

>>533920532
I hate how many retards go into the latter waves or even boss still with the starter armor. Nice job healerbro, I always buy the medic pistol to give you guys backup if needed

>>533920532
Make sure you take the medic bag talent on your first talent tier (20% purple armor per stim lmao) and take the talent that heals you when you heal allies or dart enemies with your weapon, don't max that talent though because they fucked up the coding to only heal 5% instead of 50%. Grab medics last weapon and become unkillable until you exhaust all stims on the map since you refill darts on that by shooting enemies and can just dump an absurd amount of darts into enemies which also doubles your DPS while almost instantly restoring all your health. Pop stims whenever it's safe to do so even if you only took 5 damage since you need to keep your armor up.

Also if you need some easy crafting component farm, firebugs level 26 Extinguisher talent procs on every single Shuriken throw from ninjas secondary(since it "reloads" every single time you throw one) which completely breaks the game if you put Stun tonic on it since you can perma stun large mobs while obliterating everything else around you.

>>533919963
Damage or penetration for knife comes to mind

>>533920965
you mean 1989, right

>retard shoots burster
>me and the only other good player get knocked off a cliff
>sense a wipe coming
>both retards uselessly flail into the horde instead of even trying to res
>guy comes exactly on the last second, we both die
>they wipe not even 2 minutes later

>>533921491
Can you do the boss with the shuriken?

>>533921491
that's a lot of information in one post

>>533920532
thank you.
I'm equally frustrated when I see ninjas throwing their life away while trying to melee bosses on HoE. It's literally impossible by mortal men.
And then there's the retards that cause chaos during the 3 impalers fight, by kiting them in random directions, causing people to get assassinated one by one as they get trapped between 2 impalers. Literally just circle the map as a group and the fight is easy.

>>533925030
>Literally just circle the map as a group and the fight is easy
It's funny when you have two people each kiting one but in different directions and then at some point they sandwich each other by accident

>>533925302
>It's funny
no it's not :(
i cry every time

>>533925424
You see, the game crashed so many times that I'm really not mad anymore when we lose to something like that. At least I get the mats and progression. Like my last game twenty minutes ago just crashed during the boss again. Now this is what I find frustrating

should I use M16 or Shotgun for hordes?

>alone in the back
>3 of us waiting in the maglock
>he gets trapped
>ping spams
>dies before we can get to him
>tells us not to rush
Here's your havoc 40 credentialled team mate, bro

>>533925982
I've seen a lot of havoc 40 marked players in aurics who go incredibly slow. I assume they were hand held through havoc by a premade, creeping along at that exact pace, never breaking coherency, etc.
>Havoc-Forged
That's how you know he's a retard

>quickplay into auric for some dosh and crafting resources
>it's playstation players collecting grims and dying to maulerspam
How do I turn crossplay off jfc.

>>533927881
>How do I turn crossplay
By being on console :^) They're the only ones allowed to do it.

>>533927881
Naturally omitting the part where you died also

>>533928260
last man standing as a zealot, which I like to think is less embarassing than a bunch of arbites eating shit because of course they were playing arbites.

I can't imagine playing without autoloot

I slopped out for Arbites, you guys can attribute it to me if it gets nerfed within the next couple weeks.
I'm actually having fun with it, I fucking love Dredd/Robocop

>>533929843
why you didn't wait for thursday before pigging? they may get new cosmetics

>>533929527
I liked EDF6's time travel plot.

>>533930249
works best if you've already played 5, I can't imagine going in without doing so.

>>533929921
I liked the coat. Probably because for once they didn't ruin it with some dogshit shoulderplates or candles or excessive amounts of some other bits.
Also hope they change their mind on Tanith 1st skins.

>>533930419
>Also hope they change their mind on Tanith 1st skins.
Dan Abnett said never

>>533930419
why is the skinny female the one with the bazooka?
Why is there a female in the army

>>533930970
Onahole squire.

>>533930970
Guard Regiments aren't going to just not recruit half the population because they have tits, regiments generally do fall into mixed or single gender though, which can be very funny when the administratum in typical fashion decides to combine under-strength regiments without bothering to check who is in it.
Anyways the Tanith 1st are well known for having severe recruitment issues because their homeworld is lost, they're often supplemented by fucking whoever, the OG's from their doomed homeworld are those guys with the funny tats.

>>533930419
>40k literature
Embarassing.

>>533925030
I think they assume Ninja works the same as KF1 Berserker where you're super tanky and your job is to circle the map filtering and only run back to the group if they call you to deal with a scrake.

>>533927881
stop quickplaying if you're autistic about grims

>>533932403
Naw, I'll just pick them up first and throw them in the trash.

>>533926453
Makes sense. They are used to a different tempo and playstyle
Sometimes you'll see them using havoc tactics in aurics and it rarely does much
>fire nade and chorus combo
>rumbler spam
>chorus into shooters

>>533933467
Hey rumbler is very good even in aurics, you just kind of need everyone else to collectively agree to give you the ammo, and also shoot down snipers.
Which is somewhat rare, but I've seen my share of rumbler ogryns thrive when there was a psyker, and I just pinged ammo for them. But it does get a little sad being the third wheel to a rumbler ogryn carry.

>>533933848
This ogryn >>533925982
Was a rumbler spammer, but he was also a good player. It is strong in aurics, just significantly less so than in havocs and it seems no better than a good melee ogryn

the unga bunga is strong today

Since Carapace now counts as Infested during the event, does that mean normal autoguns do full damage? They still make the "plink" sound when bullets hit rotten armor...

Holy FUCK why is everyone so bad at darktide nowadays? I don't want to carry. I just want to play.

>>533935308
carapace doesn't count as infested, it was a miscommunication by the new GM. She used the term "infested" for the event but she forgot it was an armor type in game. Another Fatshark's CM L

>>533935709
Aha, so it's still armor then. Just with more HP?

>>533935843
aye

>>533936038
no wonder people are eating shit

>>533935709
>a mechanic that would've been an interesting change of pace and incentivized some perk variety for once is a communication error
Crazy how this isn't even the first time

>>533935692
they turned aurics into a joke so everyone remotely competent is in havoc 30+

>>533935843
event enemies have dmg resistance at high health and dmg weakness at low health

>>533920965
No there are plenty of based and sensible zoomies born after that
>>533918190
Kharne sexo
>>533907897
I wouldn't say it *that* popular but yeah it certainly helped

>533916989
Retard

>>533908346
>>533908720
>>533908834
>>533909028
>>533909061
>>533909329
>>533909529
>>533909787
>>533910004
What the hell is this and why should I give a damn?
>>533911698
Wait, these guys made Deathwing? The game that's like the poster boy for games that had hype promotional material and then was a mess anyway? Lol

>>533927881
Just get better. Once you do you can carry mostly everyone without issue

>>533930419
Damn when can we play as high test characters like these guys???
>>533931125
That would be ideal and funny

fuck auric. I give up. I refuse to true-solo this shit with 2 dead retards and 1 dead bot that never fucking gets replaced by a player thanks to the broken matchmaking system. Swedes can't code. Summertards can't play. Unga my fucking bunga gg no re thanks and good bye. See you next week.

>>533939172
Meh, I've done it before. Its just time consuming.
And then the server dies.

RTX 590

>>533939394
i'm DCing more than ever

>>533939480
yes that is the name of the mission

>>533939394
>Ascension riser
>Get all the way to the tracks section just before to the ascension riser proper
>Mission aborted due to unexpected failure

>>533940042
always figured Mechanicus was AMD/ATI, now Kayex sends us to bomb Nvidia delivery trains

>>533902057
>If you have any amount of max toughness, max HP, TDR, etc. you WILL survive.
you revive with 0 toughness, you're aware of this yes?

>>533929527
It was fucking painful.
t. played 4.1 and 5 without it

>>533908720
holy shit looking forward to this keep me updated
eye was a blast doing a 3 days speed binge
i couldnt run necromunda but from what ive played it had good mechanics and visuals
can i get more info on this game, why are you calling it eyetide?

>>533938103
it’s a sequel to eye or something anyway yeah it’s probably going to be shit just ignore it

>people know streumon for their 40k slop shit and not for their unique totally-not-40k game EYE
crazy

>>533910274
they're 40k fans who bought their cash slop shovelware, none of them played eye so they dont know

remake eye
if it had controller support and bigger readable text i would play it right now

>>533945921
It's perfectly playable on modern systems without any tinkering whatsoever, much less abstract tinkering and community fixes like some games require. Just use a M&KB, you fucking pseudo console peasant.

>>533946143
>ignores the part where i cant read the fucking text
also i prefer playing games on a controller, fuck you

>>533947501
>ignores the part where i cant read the fucking text
No shit. Get some fucking glasses. I doubt this is the only thing where text is too small to read for you.
>also i prefer playing games on a controller
Filthy subhuman

>>533948236
>no arguments
just niggerish behavior, sometimes i forget that 85% of you are brown. Im done talking to you cocksucker, literal negative iq gorilla nigger

>>533948458
>hur dur anyone who talks shit to me for my stupid takes is brown
kek

>>533948458
most posters here are either french or slav

your brain is broken
you gain Brouzouf
jank game, cool setting but absolute dogshit on a mechanical level

>>533944262
>>533945921
Trvth

>>533948676
I am an Aryan Nordic chad

>>533949372
>posted from Malmö, Swedistan

>im white
we have this rodeo every second thread, relax poojeet noone believes you

>>533949372
>Aryan
yeah indians love to claim that everytime

>>533930970
>Why is there a female in the army
Cause the Imperium is in a constant state of total war fighting to the death with everything around it. A lot of the more prosperous areas don't recruit female soldiers. The original Tanith members didn't recruit any women into the army either the girl in the picture was picked up later as a survivor of a hive city that was entirely annihilated during a chaos siege

>>533820459
Unironically, that update ran the shittiest of them all. Much smoother now

would making cleave damage the dump on the branx pickaxe be reasonable, the push cost reduction from defense looks really tempting

>>533934213
lucky bullet rumblers are nearly as bad as playing with smykers outside havoc

>>533943967
This was leaked on 4chan

>Brutal first person slasher
>Roguelite progression
>Loot, craft, leveling
>RPG with custom character
>Solo & up to 4 players coop
>Planned release: august 2025 (early access)

So when Fatshark vacations end?
It's already august and they refuse to say anything

>>533952365
>rogueanything
lost 20% of interest already but it depends what they understand under roguelike

>>533911051
>Enjoy ye Templars, tis a delicacy on my planet known as the Donor Kebab
>This is karkin fantastic, but where'd you get this meat
>Don't ask questions ye cannae handle Templar

>>533952203
just take slam and you have infinite stamina

i think darktide suffers from mechanical and technical bloat
some many combat actions could have been summed up into one action and none of it would make the combat less exciting (mid)
literally quantity over quality regressing into fake depth because devs thought more=gooder while nothing in this game actually tickles the skill or problem solving receptors because quite frankly, its just spam and the mechanics behind the elite enemies arent really exciting. no puzzle solving elements either which is dull.
this game is probably another 5.5/10 for me granted, i dont have any mp action game that goes above 6/10 but still.

>>533956047
>I am bad and can't handle pressing buttons: the post

>>533956426
there is no good and no inititive to be good because it lacks the good element
anon was right, there is 0 ego check in this game because its mechanically on part with pong when stripped down to its fundamentals and most systems are half assed, tackled on or make no sense. you arent good for pressing lmb on the head of an enemy, im sorry

>>533956047
which actions should be reduced to one?

>>533957116
for starters, heavy attacks and light attack should have been 2 buttons instead of 1
this also makes combos irrelevant and or more predictable
there is no need for jumping a vault could have been archived with a contextual interaction
sliding is a bad mechanic when they have an already perfectly functional dodge/dont run in a straight line towards the enemy to dodge mechanic
there is no need for a toughness mechanic, it all could have been governed with health and shield is implemented half assed. borderlands imo made a better shield mechanic with more variety
pushing/push attacking shouldnt be in the game. you have melee weapons stats like power which already manage the pushback/stun of enemies
im not touching the specials because they are quite frankly completely bad and overlap with each others like crazy

bait used to be believable

>>533956748
>anon was right, there is 0 ego check in this game because its mechanically on part with pong when stripped down to its fundamentals and most systems are half assed, tackled on or make no sense.
NTA but yeah, there's 0 ego check in Darktide becuase is co-op, meanwhile in real PvP people suck dicks for getting uppity

deep inside you you know that the game is mid at best, you just deluded yourself because despite it being barely acceptable there is still nothing better than it in this specific niche genre. sad state of affairs for everyone fatshark included

>>533961665
there is no ego check because there is no skill check because there is nothing interesting ever happening which activates you almonds. this general is good reflection of that. the only discussion is builds, scorebords or shit flinging because the game while acting deep is just another puddle amongst puddles.

>>533922437
on easier difficulties sure, I'd personally just run the vulcan TA for the boss since it's massively overtuned at the moment and the shuriken extinguish range is very short.

>>533952580
It ends next week, followed by 3 weeks of vacation recovery. So they'll start working 4 weeks from now.

>>533957829
assuming this is serious, every 4channel general is going to be elitist. no one is going to take you seriously when it's clear you just haven't played very much. go make a "new player thoughts" on reddit if you actually want people to explain why mechanics exist

>>533963553
so you have no argument, as expected, those mechanics have no reason to exist but to bloat the game and your ego for being a good little goym and utilizing something that has a net neutral impact of any outcome of any given situation. reminds me of mmos where you have to press 20 different skills to do damage. Bloat but people there thinking they do something cool, its always the same but i guess im preaching to the swine. enjoy your slop

>>533964303
Are you the League of Legends guy?

>>533964917
nope

wwyd if you were a Skaven rat and you suddenly encountered this?

>>533964303
>enjoy your slop
thanks i will, and you can continue to be mad about it. You should post about the rng some more as well

>>533965342
Are you lying? You're the guy who goes into generals to explain why their game is bad because it isn't like LoL. LoL is your gold standard right?

>>533965520
im not mad im also playing it, just my two cents why i think its not peak. What do you mean by rng? The crafting or what
>>533965528
no, i think lol is gay af or any pvp game for that matter. ive been just playing and observing this gneral for the past 2 months and those are my conclusions

>>533950239
This makes more sense. It should be a case by case basis. Areas that are actually constantly at war like Cadia was probably couldn’t afford to spare the extra set of hands. At the same time I feel like they should be relegated to less direct combat inclined roles and maybe more stuff like munitions maintenance and field medics but whatever.

>>533965518
>His power… it’s off the charts…!!!!!!

>>533965985
ok lets hear one of your hot takes, why is the second healthbar in borderlands a more interesting mechanic than toughness

>recon lasgun
>press Mouse 1 to win
It's that easy

>>533919725
Space elf mating press

>>533966474
I think it lacks cool mechanics and the implementetion is plain
what i would find cool if shield was just a trigger for a cool effect
for example if shield depletes drop a grenade, if at full shield after tanking damage get invincibility or invisibility, if shield is damaged you shock and stun enemies who damaged you ranged included something like that. right now its a second healthbar but for what prupose if you already have a healthbar? Bloat and half assed mechanics

>>533967773
It's not a second healthbar though. Nothing bad happens if your toughness is empty, other than making your actual HP bar more vulnerable. Are you aware how toughness interacts with melee attacks?

>>533968330
Actually I should clarify, there ARE actually bad effects that happen when your toughness bar is empty, like suppression etc. I just meant to say that you don't die just because your toughness runs out.

>>533910274
Necromunda was ruined by reloading. I know they were copying doom eternal and the guns in those games had bottomless mags, there should be a mod that forces you to switch weapons when the mag goes dry and has some machine that reloads holstered guns like the perk in DRG.
As for EYE 2 I hope it won't be as janky as that game.

>>533968581
>I hope this streumon game wont be janky
keep hoping, it's part of what made EYE great
their 40k games were very irredeemable tho

>I'm sure the studio that made 3 meh games will create an absoltue banger this time
do copergers really

>>533968330
losing health is never a good stake, nothing bad happens is an understatement but i agree its not as sever as when you health drops to zero and you go into a downstate which in turn, make the toughness bar just another healthbar with a few more interactions, none of which are fun.
>Are you aware how toughness interacts with melee attacks?
yes you hit enemies as ogryn and get toughness back
you kill enemies with zealot and either get 5 toughness back or 10 depending on your skill choices
when enemies hit you with an attack it reduces the toughness, if toughness is broken the next atack gives you health damage, depending on the amount of toughness you get reduced health damage. or what do you mean?

>all the games streum on makes are bad!
This is how you can tell someone only plays goys workslop franchise games

>>533968851
>when enemies hit you with an attack it reduces the toughness, if toughness is broken the next atack gives you health damage, depending on the amount of toughness you get reduced health damage. or what do you mean?
This is what I meant. Toughness is a shield you have to balance in order to protect your HP bar depending on situation. I don't see how you can say it's "just another HP bar" if you're aware of this. It's literally an armor mechanic more than anything else

>>533968732
… the jank made it good? How?

>>533968851
all classes get toughness on kill btw

>>533969086
the only difference between toughness and health is that toughness regenerated via kills/attacks/coherency but offers no interesting interactions beyond that which makes it just a glorified health bar (i mentioned interactions as basic examples from games that also utilze a shield bar for example borderland 3 in my earlier post). If you have no noteable effects resulting from the state your toughness bar is in beyond recieve less health damage why have a shield/toughness bar in the first place. Just make attacks regen health instead, literally the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIGrxG7qI9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIGrxG7qI9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIGrxG7qI9k

IT'S UP

>>533969453
made for unique charming gameplay, the story was so retarded it circled back around to being kino, the weapons were all extremely cool because they gave 0 fucks about video game conventions, the hacking was so unintuitive and hard to understand that it completely sold the "biohacking only an actual genius would understand" aspect legitimately
Also the constant messages in broken english were extremely funny

>>533969870
buy an ad

>>533969870
i cant stand his voice anymore. he sounds insufferable and all his titles are just micro sperg outs. hes a hypocrite

>>533969782
this is such a retarded angle though, it's like saying
>the only difference between stamina and hp is that stamina makes you unable to sprint/block/push so now your real hp bar is in trouble
like ok? You just described why it's nothing like HP
it protects you from damage, your HP bar is how much damage you can take before you go down. It's not a HP bar or equivalent to one, it's an armor mechanic. You're also forgetting how it affects stuns and suppression, and how corruption has interplay with the mechanic

I get you think having gimmicks happen when your armor runs out is interesting, but I don't really think so. It's way more interesting how in darktide you actually have a thought out system that rewards you for correctly utilizing your toughness, whereas in borderlands it literally is just "second HP bar but funny wacky thing happens when it runs out"

>>533969686
Arbiter get it from just hit though

>>533964303
Kill yourself

>EYE cybermancy was such a good game! I'm not a hipster at all!
>oh you played it? what do you rememebr about it
>uuuh ...uuuuh, you gain brouzouf XD

Posers.

>>533970527
is this supposed to be in reply to >>533969892
Did you not quote it because your post would look really stupid because it'd be really obvious you just disregarded 90% of the post

>>533969870
>randomly turned into pathfinder for a moment in his 2 hour long rant over kf3
took me by surprise lmao

>>533965518
>let me stabb-stabb him

>>533969870
the funny thing about tranner is that each time some obsessed troon posts his vid here, I click it and listen for 10 seconds, and he noticably sounds fatter and fatter every time, and his voice is shifting from "uppity twink" to "middle aged geek parody"
I'm guessing in like 5 years he'll be like that guy from the southpark WoW episode

Stop calling him Tranner or he will make another video crying about /coopg/ being mean to him.

>>533970281
call it whatever you want, the functionality stays the same, toughness or hp is just the amount of pain you can take before facing consequences. the only difference between both is that one regens the other doesnt. gameplay wise there is virtually no difference. you could slap life leech and remove toughness and get the same results. there are plenty of gamechanging or even build defining effects in other games that do armor bars more interesting making them more than just a second health bar. if you dont like special or whacky effects thats fine by me but for me personally darktide is plain as white bread and a glass water in terms of builds variety and mechanics only carried by its strong aesthetics, good ost and animations. everything else is halfassed at best

>>533909028
>darktide killer
that's what this general is all about

>>533971726
>, toughness or hp is just the amount of pain you can take before facing consequences.
Absolutely not. To drive home how wrong you are: You can run out of HP and die without ever having your toughness broken in Darktide.
In Borderlands, it's just a second HP bar. Oh no, this ran out so now I start taking HP damage!

>>533972096
you just stated that toughness can be even more irrelevant than hp
this doesnt help your argumentation at all. this is not a noteable interaction but at times even a liability. this is not depths this is bloat as ive been stating over and over. Just another thing ontop of other things you have to manage to no noticeable gameplay change. aynway, im getting tired, if you are content with the way things are good for you but at this points its just a battle of preference and attrition. some people just dont like their games being stuck in 2010 with less options than the games from the said timeline

>>533972096
okay but it makes a fart noise and your character quips when your shield runs out in borderlands did you think of that

>>533972768
exactly, at least in our game the ogryn shits his pants when his toughness bar breaks

>>533972702
>my argument is to say it's bad over and over again with nothing to back it up and give examples of games with less depth in their shield mechanics
what the fuck am I reading, thank god I didn't respond to the first post saying pushing and alt attacks shouldn't be in the game

there's something in the water that's making my teammates run in 3 different directions

>>533972702
>you just stated that toughness can be even more irrelevant than hp
No, having unique mechanics and interactions and different applications in different situations doesnt make it "more irrelevant". The depth and the differences from HP is what makes it a good, thought out mechanic
You seem kind of low IQ. Like you're really invested in your totally wrong assessment that "toughness is just HP" and the more I explain to you the mechanics between HP and toughness are complex interplay and not at all just the same, the more you start coping about how it's actually a bad thing

In other words, kill yourself you retarded nigger

I like darktide because of the toughness mechanic. I think it's probably the best iteration we currently have of balancing static health vs temporary/recharging armor that helps with survivability in any shooter.

>>533973376
>there's something in the water
CA-LI-FOR-NIA GIRLS

>>533973582
Fuck forgot to say that while I like toughness I don't think toughness damage reduction should be a thing. 1 point of toughness should always represent 1 point of toughness, just give more total toughness instead.

>>533969870
Tannergawds dabbing all over this dead dogshit gayme

>>533973794
bro wash your hands

>>533973794
Why burgers are like this?

Borderlands 4 is going to kill darktide, eyetide and destiny 2

>>533973441
>its different because you get it back when you hit things
>gets mad
yeah, im totally buying your perspective you hysterical woman. good thing at no point i took you seriously, might have had some sympathy for your pathetic existance that way.
>>533973348
you arent reading thats the problem otherwise you would have noticed that your bs mechanic is tackled on garbage to satisfy brainlets suchs as the cunt above you

thats it, no more yous for brainlets satisfied with the most basic bitch mechanics and gameplay. enjoy your seething

>>533973794
is that brown or black?

>>533974170
>toughness is a basic bitch mechanic because it's just another hp bar
>gets explanation for why it's not just another hp bar
>ok you didn't get what I was saying UGHHH!!!

>>533974170
>anon is completely calm and reasonable, calls him a mean name at the end
>run away screaming about how no one understands him and THEY are hysterical women
hmmmmm

>browns get mad when facing reality of their shit game
please dont rape your mothers tonight /COPEg/

>>533974184
american

>>533973794
>finger on the trigger
I don't care that it's fake. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>533974170
It's different because it's health for ranged enemies and armor for melee. It works really well in the hybrid gameplay. Same reason slide exists is because of the hybrid gameplay. It's another option to counter with the downside being that you can't avoid melee with a slide (although you can avoid muties and dogs if you angle properly, albeit unreliably) but it lets you close the distance quicker than if you were side saddling towards a group of shooters. I'm going to assume that you don't know how toughness works but it's mitigation against melee and not a second health bar. If you have 70% toughness, 30% of the melee hit you take is going to bleed through to your actual health bar. Only taking a melee hit at full or gold toughness is when it acts like a second health bar. This ties into why shove attacks exist as well, you do not want to be taking any melee hits in darktide if you can avoid them because a random shooter could have chipped you a bit and suddenly that attack goes from being completely negated to being able to two shot you. Shove attacks also break the usual combo chain allowing you to shortcut to different combos. The only thing I kind of agree with in your original gripe list is that special attacks can be underwhelming. I don't even agree with that entirely though as I just think some of the specials are underwhelming. Such as the rifle bashes on braced autoguns. It was useful when you couldn't swap off your ranged weapon without breaking executioners stance and couldn't pop a burster before it got to you but it's kind of an irrelevant afterthought in the current game. Something like the dueling sword poke or the shovel poke is insanely strong and can stop a mutie dead in their tracks.
You call it bloat, I call it interesting

>>533975304
Them happy, nappy-head niggas,
With they fingas on the trigga!
Don't trust them new niggas over there!

organic as ever

>>533969870
Kill yourself
>>533976491
Horrifying prospect…

>>533973794
>>533974184
Likely Indian as grim as it is

>>533974170
Holy fuck you're retarded. Kill yourself right now

>>533973794
>>533974013
>>533974184
>>533974918
>>533977509

After a bit of research he's "danish" :^)

>>533974013
>>533974918
-> >>533979051


OH NO NO NONO OBSESSED

how would you feel if you didnt eat breakfast today, copeg?

>>533980116
breakfast is for pussies

most of you retards wouldnt even pass the mirror test

>>533980116
like bags of sand

>>533980393

>>533980660
kek

NAKATA DE NINJA YAYAYA

can you rotate the chorus relic inside of your had brapg?