Omg Fave! Edition

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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk

-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/

-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba

-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-Thread Template
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw

I LOVE TV!

Engaging Spamton and Tenna's competitive streak by making a contest where I pet their heads and kiss them and massage them and the winner ends up a tie because I just can't choose

December Holiday's perky brown tits

Does your fave play Minecraft vanilla or modded?

pluey sometimes flops down on his back and refuses to do anything else until one of the other mikes scratches his belly

I wish there was an Toriel chatbot that would indulge in my wish to transform into a shote gote and mommy kink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KoQ8XDoCI
there's something incredibly funny but also sad that shit like this spawned from Toby making a random tumblr shitpost a decade ago, like imagine a greentext you made 10 years ago randomly gets turned into some high quality autistic fan animation
really is no wonder why he has so little presence on the internet now compared to the homestuck/UT kickstarter days, it kinda sucks

>>533854441 (OP)

>>533855097
But what about all the times his random shitposts actually made it into the game

>>533855213

>>533854981
And I wish there was a chatbot that would indulge in MY fetish for pedophiles like you getting tortured and raped to death as punishment for their existence by 10 foot tall men with bitchbreakers to match.

>>533855253

>>533855618

get these fucking prophecies OUT of here

ENTER

Toby Fox made one of his core characters Christmas themed randomly in a world with no Christianity and presumably a different world history solely because he thought it would be funny. There are no hijab wearing characters for the same reason. He did not seriously flesh out the lore of his universe and is not making every little detail of it some big secret. It's just there to be quirky and funny to the extent it doesn't hamper the emotional core of the story.

>>533855510
>Berdly

>>533855786

>>533855469
noh~

Fave Rental Service

TV DAISUKI!!

When Lancer turns 18 he will marry Susie, now 24 years old

>>533855469
>raped to death by 10 foot tall men with bitch breakers to match
ough~

pluth nuke

2022 Spamtenna that could still be canon compliant to how Spamton and Tenna looked when they first met (before the liposuction, fake nose, hairdye, and matching suits)

Current whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86317026-6353-7974
Magma: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh
WorldOfText: https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg

>>533855807
christmas explicitly exists and other religions that have concepts of sin are implied to exist
ergo, christianity exists, even if there are no christians in hometown
this also means the holidays are appropriating human culture

making a fountain by jumping onto the floor from a chair and hitting the ground with my dick, also breaking it in half because yoooWIEE MAAAMAAAA OOOOOOOOWWWWWWW

>>533855469
This but I'm turned into a shote gote before I get stretched like silly putty in a retarded kid's hands

>>533856567
Who the fuck showed Tenna basedjaks

*When did you start being yourself?

>>533856643
>(distant regal laughter)

>>533855762
What about this one?

>>533856882
Anon Friend Buddy Chum Anonymous Anonette
My Favourite Basedjak Is The Imp One
His Stupid Wide Grin Smile Is Infectious
How Can Anyone Get Mad At Him?

guys... i loked in the code and found the last prophecy susie smashes....

is she the most irredeemable character in the game?

>the entire navy seal copypasta in the prophecy

>>533855928
Berdly does not have a soul
>>533857092
That would be berdly

>>533857149
>They will fucking say something about the navy larper and birth a wall of text word salad.

>* Underneath the bed is an old cartridge of "Cat Petters RPG".
>* "catti & catty" can be seen faintly written on it in worn gel pen.
And then from the Mike fight
>* Smells like dried gel pen.
Is this why the FRIEND in the Battat minigame has Catti colors?

TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY
THE MAILMAN AND TELEVISION WILL BE GAY

Thread Quality so bad the computer got a virus

>>533857218
>Berdly does not have a soul
Every Lightner Has A Soul

>That would be berdly
Incorrect

>>533857386
I think thats all the gay porn on your computer doing that.

>>533854981
What are you using? Because what I use has several of those.

Made a thing :)

>>533857324
Will any of this shit be answered properly in Ch5
So tired of Toby digging the rabbit hole, it's been 10 YEARS

>>533857739
I like it
It will slide nicely into my Undertale Pics 2 folder

>>533856362
It's so funny how a handful of people were (crack)shipping them before ch3+4 and assumed Tenna was this macho scary man abusing poor naive Spamton. Then it turned out their canon dynamic was almost the exact opposite.

>>533857739
wow this is really good

>>533857739
very nice

>>533857064
She’s the only one allowed to rape Kris.

>>533857739
my hero berdly...

>>533857739
This would be an 8/10 piece of fanart if berdly wasn't in it.

>>533857739
A Very Cute Thing
Specially That Blue Bird
>Soul In The Jar
KEK

>>533857739
just noticed the tape for berdly's glasses

>>533857827
Even funnier is them both thinking they're the big macho scary man abusing the poor naive sucker partner but they're both fucking stupid assholes with different styles of scamming and manipulation

>>533858069
But Because Berdly Is Indeed In It
It Makes It A 10/10 Piece Of Fanart

>>533857739
It was nice of someone to put holes in our jar so we can breathe.

in early to say: Wingding Gaster is a cat, and he likes to have FUN.

>>533857739
Nice! Glad to see you still posting some art man, thought you were gone forever after the new chapters dropped.

>>533857739
love it! super cute :)

I got a new HDMI cable and my monitor works perfectly again. There was a tiny fear in the back of my mind that it wouldn't work but now everything is back to normal and no lasting harm has been done.

Do you think Susie was held back in school for a year or two?

To find the mastermind of Deltarune all we have to do is ask everyone what their favorite Ninja Turtle is and find the one whose fave is Michael Langelo

>>533857739
SOVL

Vintage 2022 Elnina

>>533858694
Was the HDMI cable a darkner? How is this DR related breh

>>533858726
She's the sped student in normal classes because "muh speds are people to". They have to begrudgingly sweep her up the grade ladder.

Who cares about fan theories.
Why is the game still in 4:3 aspect ratio????

>>533859193
so I can play it on my CRT like a normal person

Be honest, would you forgive Ralsei for this?

>>533859193
>>533859253

what's the deal with mettaton, anyway?

>>533858212
They're both desperate and secretly lonely, yearning for companionship!
One man sought out absolute freedom and kept a distance from his partner. The other man was terrified of being alone and became increasingly more controlling. Neither of them were truly in control of themselves!

>>533859553
the censored part is grandpa semi

>>533848994
>Care to list
chara is complicit in literally the entirety of the genocide route, from the very moment it begins. they are implied to bully and terrorize asriel, laughed when asgore fell ill to buttercup poisoning, and manipulated their brother into helping them eradicate their home village. you can make a million excuses, but you have to accept you're playing devil's advocate and trying to spin something clearly implying chara is evil. chara being a bad person isn't even subtext, it's just text.
>but toby fox doesn't-
there is absolutely nothing saying he doesn't or can't write one-dimensional murder demons. it's fun to think there's more going on to chara, it doubtless makes them more interesting to think of them as more nuanced or tragic or misunderstood, but toby didn't write a nuanced, tragic, misunderstood chara. i would go as far as to argue he didn't finish writing chara and just slapped together whatever he had.
>but what about flow-
flowey/asriel enjoys the privilege of being far more nuanced in his portrayal thanks to toby not sabotaging his entire character by leaving too much ambiguous and open ended, and thanks to his pacifist route redemption arc.

Need more Spamton being genuinely off-putting and unsettling(even outside of NEO form), like someone you'd be scared of being left alone with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVa2iLxFNIE

Runa Delta

>>533859946
and an grandpa named semi?
doesn't quite fit.

>>533859253
Shouldn't that just be an option you can enable then?
You telling me that gamemaker has been around for fucking how long and it can't do different aspect ratios?

>>533860071
Street gang art

why is dess like this

>>533860071
Fun gang rolling in on ballers turf.

>>533860223
Cause eram has got it going on

>>533859553
>mettaTON
>jockingTON
>spamTON
>SKELE
>TON

>its an hour before bed again
>i should be doing my meditations and stretches
*pouts and slams thread for more stimmy drops*

>>533860132
another brother?
an alter ego?

>>533860440
>Bu-dum Pshhh!!!

>>533860132
who else could he be? it also appears in here

>>533860481
an prince from the dark

>>533860624
an imaginary friend

>>533860440
Thats a ton of common ground

https://files.catbox.moe/bhdrw5.mp4
gaster fart porn

Does anyone have a screenshot of Tenna saying "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!!!!!! KILL HIM!!!!!!!!"
It happens when you don't hit Spamton during the Susiezilla sequence
I can't find it anywhere

>>533859598
I want to give them a hug (together) having experienced maybe a fraction of the pain and types of mental illnesses both have

>>533858726
Susie going from barely literate, troublemaking flunk who almost dropped out of high school to famous writer is the perfect story for her I wanna see

one thing I don't like about chapter 4s dark world is how it doesn't feel lived in
the dark worlds for chapter 1, 2 and 3 all feel like living communities full of people that interact with each over and have lives
the darkners from chapter 4 feel like they stand completely still all day every day and only exist to serve the prophecy, with gerson (and jack) being the only exception.

>>533860747
False advertising, this is just the gummy bear song

Susiefags wanna fuck THIS?

>>533860940
And you wouldn't?

>>533860747
The supposed fart porn is, indeed, a lie

>>533860831
the church is a transient but routinely used place with set rituals. I think it makes sense most of the darkners are just kinda there with no greater aspirations or interests beyond being what they are

>>533860831
it's very h*mest*ckian, the way the church world(s) are sparsely inhabitated by religious weirdos compared to livelier worlds like the Cyber World or even TV Studio
like the different planets/worlds reflecting their person/hero who had to go on quests in them and then beat the boss

>>533860940
She can be goofy but she can also get serious and that's why i like her

>>533858442
no uv protection on that jar though we're going to get sun burn :(

>>533860747
you lied to me. disappointing.

>>533861467
Don't worry, they can just bury the jar in sand and leave the top above sand if we cant handle the heat.

>>533860831
Nigga we dont even know wtf half the darkners even are
The fuck is a gwei
Why is there a sword thing
Whats the fat bowl
Why are the cups chasing water when the only liquid is juice
Where are the prayer candles
Wtf was the girl darkner
Wtf did the books have eyes
Why is the gerson statue so different
You dont ask questions, you eat the loredump until next year when you get your other spoonful

I LOVE PIPPINS!

>>533861634
What about high tide, wouldn't the tide come in through the air holes if we are buried in sand?

i'm becoming enamored with spamton/mettaton/tenna but with the dynamics of mario, peach and bowser (they take turns being each one but Mettaton likes being the main villain taunting the other two)

So which Dark World did Kris open at the end of Chapter 1? The Cyber World?

>>533859946
it CAN'T be grandpa semi, toby left parts of the letters visible at the edges and "grandpa semi serif" doesn't match. "and another brother named wing dings" DOES match, but toby very rarely does b's with the loop so it's an unlikely choice. could also be some shit like "and an old teacher/lover named _____"

>>533861990
No, he made a TV World fountain. That's when he made his deal with Tenna.

>>533860535
there's 4 gasters; sans, papyrus, wingding, and grandpa semi.

>>533862208
they said chapter 1

>>533862017
An Asshole Cousin Named Sanseriff

>>533861990
he didn't make one he just left to get cake

>>533862248
Yeah. Kris made a deal with Tenna before Chapter 3. Notice the TV is unplugged in Chapter 1 and plugged in at the beginning of Chapter 2.

YOU CAN ONLY
K E E P
ON
T R U C K I N

>>533861990
the cyber world wasn't discovered in a public library all day, it had to have been made sometime during or just after school, while we were still controlling kris

Did you know that one of San's pupils is off by one pixel?
They're aren't symmetrical.

>>533862539
Neither is toriel but no one cares about that

Sharing this one more time because it should be appreciated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyQK6p1S53g

>>533862353
if kris made a dark fountain between chapter 1 and 2 it would still be there, since at the time he didn't have the soul and couldn't seal it

Is it just me or did these threads die down incredibly fast compared to how they were after Chapter 2's release?

>>533862680
Hmm. That's a good point. He definitely made one, though. There's not really anything else he would need the knife for. There must be some other bullshit going on somewhere we're not aware of. Someone else with a soul powerful enough to close fountains, or an undiscovered Dark World somewhere else.

>>533862810
It's not just you, that is accurate.

>>533862864
>He definitely made one, though
he definitely just went to get some pie man

>>533862928
He ate the pie after he got back. There is an overwhelming implication he did something meaningful

>>533863038
and you base everything off of that? nothing but an implication?

>>533862810
it's not just you
the new chapters weren't bad but they didn't answer many questions, we're still speculating over the same ideas we all had in the ch 2

>>533862017
"And another brother named wingding" is the only shit that works, fits all the visible letters, and makes complete sense. Three brothers and their grandpa semi serif.

>>533862615
it has a very simple style but it's really good! thanks for sharing anon. Spamtenna got a lot of fanarts but also a lot of animatics

Piraterune

>>533863107
He rips out the soul, pulls out a knife and smiles at the camera before the main theme starts playing dude
You're telling me he just went to get some pie?

>>533862539
because he's looking forward
go look at yourself in a mirror, one of your eyes will be angled

>>533861775
I also love pippinses

>>533862810
No, you're not going schizo

>>533863209
Yes
you speak like someone who's never been hungry

>>533857739
oh hey I remember you(r artstyle)
good drawing

>>533863209
Genuinely yes
Kris needs an outlet for pranks after they stopped with Noelle

>>533862810
Maybe it has to do with the knowledge that next chapter will only take 1 year to release? maybe back then there was a lot of things to schizo over too, now we already know how the knight and carol look like, how tenna and tv world look like, there's no need for another sweepstakes...i think these little things made fans talk more about the upcoming chapters

>>533863207
Spamton couldn't even see over the wheel if he committed mutiny. Gerson is the only one tall enough to steer the ship

I can't wait for Faint Courage to get a full version or a battle theme

>>533863251
But if I do that then both my eyes will be looking at one eye.

>I know what you're thinking, Kris, but the funny thing is I don't even like videogames
The fuck was her problem?

>>533862810
Dess shit made theories boring.

>>533863494
It's ok, Spamton can expand his whole head

>>533863678
How can she know what Kris is thinking, does she have a SOUL too?

>>533863712
Gaster*

>>533863712
*Susie

>>533863465
toby also broke the pattern everyone assumed the chapters would follow so it's more difficult to cook up fresh ideas

>>533854441 (OP)
Chara and Frisk solos Deltagay

>>533863749
Only if you're hung up on 10 years of fanon. Forget everything you ever knew about wang dang gister and he becomes fun again.

>>533863797
maybe i'm reading fanfics wrong because i have yet to see a spamtenna fanfic using those big fancy words. Maybe they're more of a comedy thing because the more serious ones don't have those

>>533864007
I'd rather just forget about gaster entirely

I look away for five seconds and people have town bike’d the green pippins

Could the Fuck Squad beat Sephiroth?

>>533864090
I honestly don't understand the inexplicable cult of people who hate the only interesting thing to come out of all of ut/dr

>>533863712
this but also FRIEND

Chapter 2 only guarantees queen and the sweet cap'n cakes as encounter recruits
Chapter 4 doesn't force any recruit unto you, as jackenstein probably dies from the fall if you don't recruit anybody
Chapter 1 gives you the royal pardon even if you can miss out on starwalker (like the ch2 tiny car)
But while chapter 3 does force elnina and lanino as recruits not only can you forgo everyone else (also leaving tenna to die) but you can lose the rabbick recruits from Ch1 if you blow on the ribbicks to reveal a rabbick
What if another weird route requirement is to wipe clean your list of recruits in castletown? Atleat the robot trio will have a smidge of relevance with that

>>533864129
he even has a kid now, isn't it nice?

>>533860831
Most the items in the church have only really been used as intended without much personal history to separate them from others of their kind

>>533864129
He was always the studio bike, it took you this long to find out?

>>533864321
>the only interesting thing in undertale/deltarune is a few dubiously canon throwaway lines in an easter egg and 10,000 pages of schizophrenia
neat

>>533864427
>green pippins got fankids
next you're gonna tell me he's the one who birthed them

>>533863207
Deltapiece

>>533854837
Carol holiday sagging blue jugs

>>533864643
HAHAHAHA-

>>533864643
anon you're not gonna believe this

>>533863207
>>533863494
What really happens is Spamton finds the NEO body in an island cave after sirens (Shyra and Shyren as well as the Blooks, who are like aquatic ghost cephalopods) make the ship crash
Then Spamton NEO tries to commit mutiny but Gerson, Jevil and ERAM beat his ass and he gets temporarily demoted to the captain's parrot (he looks like his regular self but has little NEO wings).

>>533856180
This but with clover the three headed bitch

Man I hope I'll actually be able to play a game of Champ'd Up or Gartic Phone with UTG. My one cruel home seems to be vanishing faster than ever this time around.

I bet Toby has watched Stranger Than Fiction at least once

Angels desire
Worlds End
There is only one way
The eyes are a little on the nose imo its all the players eyes playing the game, if Undertale is the twist of "noooo the heckin monsters are actually wholesome chungus", then Deltatune is probably gonna be "nooooo you cant just conjure up worlds inside your light screen for video games the inhabitants are also heckin wholesome chungus"

>>533865065
I was around earlier but had to do errands...

Can fave take the eucharist?

>>533864745
>>533864782
oh my god

>>533864525
>dubiously canon
Brother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5WnrSNHIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0dgaYe2LZw

Can Rouxls Kaard change the Prophecy?

>>533865185
sharing motifs does not establish a connection

>>533865276
what would establish a connection

>>533865140
I'll try to be around for next time, it's just that time for my favorite hellhole is scarce

>>533865302
I always wonder if their connection was planned early on or was created as a result of spamton becoming popular

>>533859069
Less a darkner of its own and more an extension of the screen/device darknee itself, anon basically did organ transplant for his darkner friend :3

I think the murals depicting the heroes hints at something that hasn’t yet occurred.
Kris will have a similar development as the knight’s body to compensate for his physical weaknesses in the light world (losing an arm).
Susie will change her clothes that are more elegant and place the heart on her chest area instead of her waist.
Ralsei will use fire.

>>533865395
actually appearing in the game would be nice
being mentioned even once would also help
also what are you even trying to connect here? gaster and the concept of flashbacks? or monologues?
I honestly don't think gasters motif means anything in the context of deltarune, I think toby just uses the theme to be mysterious/creepy, same with the garbage noise

>>533865515
I'd think early enough in development when Spamton got the FRIEND glasses and when Noelle was connected to FRIEND

A moment of silence for this poor retard that didn't get to know the joys of Battat being the free use dildo/onahole before he had a kid

And a w.d named gaster

I wanted to talk about some theories/thoughts I had, none of my friends play these games, and I'm a bit embarrassed to post them where people know me on twitters, so Id thought Id share them here to get some thoughts and know if people have touched on them before.

Something that has been noticed a lot is that the darkness that makes darkeners comes from the underground, that the "depths" are at least a real place that can be found in the "world" of Deltarune, so the reason why monsters can do magic in the underground, is because the "dark energy" envelops their area, allowing them to do magic. since there are layers to dark worlds, I imagine the real world counter part to that would be the deeper you go underground, the stronger your magic would be. Which is why where the monsters are, objects don't really turn into darkners. since deltarune monsters where always on the surface, it would probably mean their interactions wouldn't be the same as deltarune, since they never learn to communicate the way they do.

I also think how the holidays being reindeers is a counter to dreemurrs to be goats is just a nice touch. Heaven vs Hell creatures. Dremmurs being goats, rulers of the undergound in undertale (hell) vs the holidays being reindeer, which is a couple of jumps being that, its the closet youd get to a creature that would represent god, being that, Christmas is a religious holy holiday, even with Santa and his reindeer, and being that reindeer are really important within that context, is why Carol is the mayor in Hometown. It also explains why they have so much Christmas decor, they are a "religious" family. This might not matter too much in a grand scheme, but I think its an interesting parallel.

Jevil will have a role in helping ralsei realize how, him not mattering, doesn't mean he should just do nothing, since Jevils gimmick is that he can do anything he wants because he doesn't matter.

>>533865841
A wang dangler named gaster

>fave named finger

>>533865712
>appearing in the game
he appears several times in Undertale
>being mentioned even once
he is mentioned several times in Undertale
>what are you even trying to connect here
there are obvious parallels between the dialogue in Ralsei's monologue and entry seventeen. the obvious musical reference makes things especially blunt. it's totally transparent. the game is full of overt Gaster references

The most interesting part of Chapter 4 is how empty the town was at night, It didn't even seem to be that late or anything

>wingding is a party
>a party of multiple people
>in the game, you control a party of 3
>FRIEND looks like Endogeny but a cat amalgamate
>like a party of cats
I'm scared...

>>533866030
no shit, there's absolutely nothing to do in hometown.

Im worried that the plants wont have a big a role as people think if only because Kris's cactus never turns into anything other then a cactus, plants are still technically lightners, so wouldn't nothing too much change about them, or am I crazy?

>>533865992
>he appears several times in Undertale
he literally never appears in undertale
>he is mentioned several times in Undertale
for this I was mostly referring to deltarune, but even his mentions in undertale are dubiously canon at best.
>there are obvious parallels between the dialogue in Ralsei's monologue and entry seventeen
which is cut content and therefore not canon, also what fucking connections?
>the game is full of overt Gaster references
if you have schizophrenia maybe

>>533866315
yes
don't think harder about the rules here than toby is

>>533866030

>>533865065
I'm sorry, I always play every weekend but this time I was unable to

>>533865515
So sad we never got them to interact properly in more ideal scenarios
Hope ch5 lets them atlwast say hi to eachother

>>533866316
>he literally never appears in undertale
mystery man
"I'm holding a piece of him right here"
"It's rude to talk about someone who's listening"
>dubiously canon
nonsensical position. a game event being uncommon has no bearing on its canonicity.
>cut content
Do you know what cut content is? Do you honestly think there was any point in the game's development when you were supposed to enter the Gaster room where he babbles at you through incomprehensible text? It's a secret that was meant to be discovered by dataminers
>if you have schizophrenia maybe
the game literally makes loud gaster noises at you every time you use the phone
why are you like this

>>533866443
I wonder if it's because shadows are stronger at night?

>>533866315
All the flowers are in glass domes that can become Darkners

>>533866691
What if the flowers don't become darkners, but rather the glass that holds them?

>>533865712
>>533866316
imagine having such little faith

>>533865910
I hope Jevil shows up in the future, but I don't think he'll help Ralsei since he's "optional" even if basically everyone fights him anyways.
Kind of sucks even if I do like him a lot.

>>533865712
absolute worst possible take.

and gaster HAS appeared in deltarune already, just not by name. one of gaster's major things is the number 6. all of his stats are just 6666...

element 6 is cat.

>>533866145
SEE YOU SOON!

>>533866634
Guess the idea is that the knight can move freely without help during nightime (it's dark outside and all that)

>>533866792
Things are also more indistinct at night, you can't see things clearly in shadow.

>>533866145
It might be Susie, Noelle and all 4 cats in the game (Catty, Catti, and their parents) all fused from the Weird Route ending, and entering the other timelines. Think like Golden Sun's doom dragon

>>533866745
What, like a brain-in-a-jar alien trope?

>>533866950
Kinda yeah

Give me the Spamton NEO plushie Toby........... don't make me go to Tucson, Airzona with my little specil friend

>>533866745
What if the red flower dome has already be shattered and that's what the Shadow Crystals are pieces of

>>533866609
>mystery man
never confirmed to be gaster, in fact is almost certainly not him
those other 2 things are references to him but not him actually appearing
>a game event being uncommon has no bearing on its canonicity
all the fun events are very clearly meant to be easter eggs, which by their very nature are dubiously canon. You can't even experience them all in the same playthough, unlike deltarunes equivalent (the egg man) which is equally barely canon but still more canon than any fun value event.
>Do you know what cut content is?
clearly you don't, entry 17 is not accessible anywhere in the game, it is cut content
>It's a secret that was meant to be discovered by dataminers
MEGA cope
>the game literally makes loud gaster noises at you every time you use the phone
that's literally garbage noise the game tells you so itself, though I do agree that gaster is garbage as well as anyone who still takes gaster theories seriously

Give me your absolute most schizo Gaster theories NOW, GO!

>>533867005
That would be pretty cool, as a concept. The Flowers are treated as Souls for said Darkners, like how they represent the 6 human Souls from Undertale.

I beat sans...

>>533867152
Gaster is a completely real person who fully died. Everyone who alludes to him in universe is just fucking with (you).

>>533867148
you are either baiting or fucking retarded
goodnight

>>533866315
Tsuncactus has spines but we don't know how much she deviated from her light world cactus form beyond that. I think we can expect something unusual from Asgore's flowers if only because the trauma dumping probably made them all insane.

>>533867347
I've stated nothing but blatant facts, you gaster fags are just delusional

>>533867152
Susie is Gaster's daughter. his real appearance is a dragon skeleton (blaster head). Possibly influenced by the cryptid called the Snallygaster which is a lake dwelling dragon with one eye and tentacles. Susie will continue the story just like how Gerson wanted Alvin to finish Lord of the Hammer. Somehow, the Song under the Lake connects to this and ties into the Waterfall Clam girl who talks about Suzy

>>533854917
Very cute! This is now a canon fact to me, I don't care what Tobert says, love your art as always

>>533867448

>>533867152
Gaster is a game dev and (we) are Deltarune's playtester

I'm gonna listen to the abc123 file (it's cut content and not something for dataminers to find)

>>533865515
I think they were both conceived early on, like Toby said, they were inspired by Spy vs Spy.
It makes sense since ch2-5 were intended to be released together with Spamton alluding to Tenna multiple times in both his secret boss dialogue. HEY EVERY ! was never Spamton's leitmotif but an incomplete version of Mr (Ant) Tenna's TV Time jingle. I think the connection was supposed to be way more obvious if you played ch2 and 3 close together as opposed to the 4 year wait we got where we only got to see Spamton.
The Pipis scene and hidden dealmaker/puppetscarf dialogue were probably the only things added retroactively due to Spamton's popularity, since they don't have any connective tissue from ch2. Pretty much every Tenna line alluding to Spamton was echoed by Spamton in ch2.

>>533867152
Gaster is a psychiatrist, that's why he's a doctor
He wasn't a scientist just like alphys was more of an engineer, they're both still skilled, but gaster got the DR. Suffix from treating children with trauma

>>533867338
congrats

>>533867661
the file that specifically makes fun of you for trying to datamine and tells you explicitly not to do so, yes?

100 Anons vs 1 Fave
Who wins?

>>533867737
DR W. D. Gaster actually just stands for "Deltarune Wingding Gaster"

>>533863952
Hydrogen Babies vs Coughing Bomb

>>533867152
gaster is a party animal who loves to have FUN. he is the polar opposite of literally all fanart made of him over the last 10 years. doesn't even look like mysteryman

but grandpa semi looks almost exactly like fanon gaster so people don't have to completely throw it all out.

>>533867152
Gaster is Ralsei, he got so lonely in non-existence that he wants to interact with others again. However since his name and anything relating to him practically destroys those around him he adopted the Ralsei persona. He made the prophecy to give Lightners an excuse to enjoy his magical realm.

Would Gaster's "your world is fake" bit work on someone if they'd watched the matrix before?

>>533867693
what's the hidden dealmaker/puppetscarf dialogue?

>>533867817
>Tenna meeting but a fraction of his army of simps
Well, what do you think?

>>533859968
>Genocide route
The best you could argue is the very end after you've effectively mind broken them and set upon that path. They saw Power as truth as the only way to comprehend your warpath. They're a wingman here, not the instigator (otherwise why can you spare first froggit or reset at Sans? if Chara was the reason I wouldn't need a keyboard to play, right?).
>bullying asriel
So I will give you manipulation to the shitty martyrdom plan but I think the other event we know happened was the camera lens incident which was just trolling (before it became plan discussion anyway)? Again Chara had a locket that had them and Asriel as "BFF", and Asriel reciprocated with his own locket he made his GoHD form so it couldn't have been all bad. Also for the plan, you can't even say it was solely for revenge because the game doesn't say, I believe it was a trio of vengeance/self-loathing/compassion that made Chara so die-hard for it.
>Laughing at asgore
Surely Undertale doesn't have a track record with having characters using laughing as a coping mechanism for anxiety, why's goatmom behind you?
>Nothing saying Toby doesn't
Except how he writes in practice, his actions speak more than words ever could. Everyone is attempted to have points of sympathy to their darker actions, even in DR we see King have his edges sanded off in Ch2 (the closest is Spamton but even then, he still has moments of clarity and a rise + fall to make him more than just than mecha-hitler). Now if you want to say Toby fumbled on the execution of a tragic Chara, I can get that (am a Narrachara believer and think it does the best it can do), but I think that's what he intended. Toby's human, he can fail (especially on a game that was a beta for DR), and tried to make one who's floor for heinous shit is genocide grey morality.

>>533857092
Nah that’s Kris for not being compliant like frisk. I mean seriously I am already stuck with a knock off vessel but to top it off THIS PIECE OF SHIT THINKS HE CAN DISOBEY ME

>>533867737
nah kris' therapist is semi, all the shit about "things between" is one huge joke on his name.

>>533867894
and he's now crushing on a teenager?

>>533867894
Honestly, I was going with Ralsei being the discarded vessel for a long time because of the empty heart shaped hole and blank slate personality obsessed with pleasing the player

Things between my butt

>>533867952
There's one when you interact with a stack of hay and another when you check Tenna and didn't do the sword route.

>>533867894
I like this one

>>533867978
and they all want to give him free snacks and hugs oh nooo

>>533868148
(mostly hair)

>>533868143
>for a long time
What ended up changing your mind?

THINGS
BETWEEN MY
BUTT (CHEEKS)

VERY
VERY
STIMULATING

>>533867817
It'd just be the reverse of this image with Chara being very concerned as half the anons try to get her to play a game, gift her chocolate, ask her various questions or gush about her. The only fight would be with Chara's brain trying to comprehend the next course of action amidst all the stimuli.

>>533867817
Gaster has dealt with more than 100 players, this shit's easy.

>>533868361
I still somewhat believe it though it's odd to force the player's creation to be male

who knows though it's very possible still. Maybe the way we get our Vessel back is putting the red soul in ralsei's hole

imagining a conceptual bald ralsei

>>533859373
If he turns into a girl and then bends over yes

>>533857716
JanitorAI

>>533867583
>The area of Frederick County, Maryland was settled by German immigrants beginning in the 1730s. Early accounts describe the community being terrorized by a monster called a Schneller Geist, meaning "quick ghost" in German.
>Geist can be roughly translated into three English meanings: ghost (as in the supernatural entity), spirit (as in the Holy Spirit), and mind or intellect.
split into three pieces again...
also
>half-reptile, half-bird
susie and reaper bird...

>>533867817
Thought of something involving Noelle that I didn't like.

>>533868513

>>533867815
Only for "secrets" like Spamton to be plastered all over everything.

>>533867894
>gaster is mega faggot who enjoys being stepped on

>>533867817
Fave, no anon would be willing to harm nubert

>>533868642
I don't think spamton is a secret, I got him in my game at least, 2 boss fights and everything

>>533863731
Susie will react to the stuff that's in the commentary text box. Like Kris calling Toriel's chair "Chairel".
Meaning the box is just Kris thinking out loud like Anon from Snootgame.

The one noncanon addition people give Kris that I like is snakebite piercings, it suits them

>>533868371
OOOOO HE'S GASTERBATING

>>533868836
I don't!

my cum being "secretly" plastered all over the insides of Spamton's ass

>>533868885
Okay!

>papyrus is an innocent little flower who has no idea what's going on

>>533867737
No wonder the Dreemurr divorce situation in Undertale got so bad. The only qualified couples counsellor exploded into his own creation and got erased from existence.

>>533868854
How did gaster get so phat?

>>533869030
who are you quoting?

>>533868563
>half reptile half bird
or you know, a dinosaur, which Susie is. Even the Forgotten Man talks about dinosaurs

>>533869030
alphys made that puzzle, didn't she?

>>533854917
he got mixed up one time and did this outside of the suit and then got really embarrassed

>Pluey flops down on his back wanting belly scratches like always, forgetting he’s not in his cat suit
>Battat: I… am NOT doing that.
>Jongler, who was already kneeling getting ready to do it: Oh, right, uhhh… me neither, boss!

>>533867561
It’s canon because I said so, Gaster came in my room in the middle of the night and told me. Thank you so much!

>>533869030
that's alphys' handwriting you big palooka

another weekend WASTED

>>533869094
He was practicing abstinance so all his cum accumulated on the inside of his body so that he could then release it all when gasterbating

>>533869125
reminds me of this concept art
>blobs/dinosaurs/people = darkners, monsters, humans?

>>533869282
What did you waste your weekend on?

I want to try out Deltarune. Should I play Undertale first to understand the story better, or jump right in to the sequel?

>>533869417
you don't have to play undertale first but it is recommended

>>533869282
What do you have to do so your weekends aren't wasted?

>>533869417
Undertale makes Deltarune richer, I recommend playing it first

>>533869417
Play undertale first without any spoilers. Do not worry about having to do genocide or pacifist. The Neutral route as a whole is better anyways if you ask me.

>>533869386
what the fuck I've never seen that
we literally see this in the FRIEND scene, with Susie's godzilla poster holy shit

Why is this game so popular with trannies

>>533869417
undertale first and take your time with it, enjoy it, soak into it, listen to the music, interact with the things, read the text, don't look shit up until after your first playthrough
>>533869592
a little
MMM
richer

>>533869618
because it is made by and for trannies

>>533869417
Regardless of which game you play, always check everything twice.

>>533868347
Wtf! How did you know?

battat is a little bitch because he's a virgin. he needs pussy so he won't be so sexually frustrated anymore

>>533869618
videogames in general are a tranny hobby
real men spend their time arguing about politics and commenting on facebook ai slop

>>533869618
strong tranny themes and the main character is an enby

>>533869386
people (kris)
dino (susie)
blob (ralsei)

Noelle

>>533868546
Glad I'm not the only one here that supports transfemme ralsei

>>533869610
it's from here
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Deltarune/Concept_Art/Chapter_1:_The_Beginning#Enemies
>Concept art for Rabbick, who originally had a caterpillar theme. While the head stayed pretty much the same, besides the eye and mouth shape, the rest of its body was cut off, as the caterpillar theming was removed.
>The balls were going to move like the balls in Gunstar Heroes, but the complicated nature of this led it to be scrapped.
i have a feeling this might reappear with FRIEND 3D Ballz floating face battle mechanics
also
>worm theory

>>533866691
OH hang on

I like that

From what I see, Noelle is the false savior and Susie is the true savior. And Noelle is ultimately useful to bring out the true Susie. By opening her up to what she’s afraid of being.
So Susie’s thoughts on Noelle aren’t about romance. They’re about how Susie wishes to be like her and learn from her. Just like how Susie views Toriel as a mother she never had.
But then, she would find out the truth about them sooner or later and be filled with dread and disappointment. The rowdy girl at the end of the day wants to be an elegant woman.

>>533869832
Fujo and battat help each other explore their sexual desires

What if the original "Mike" was Spamton, and his name was Mike before he went crazy.
And Tenna keeps calling for Mike because he's old and senile.

>>533867152
Gaster's true goal isn't for you to defy the prophecy but to get all the shadow crystals so you can defeat FRIEND for him.
The default route is gonna be like Undertale's corrupted pacifist ending because of FRIEND'S influence. Only by getting the pure crystal and using it to purify FRIEND and the game, will you get the actual defy-the-prophecy ending where nobody dies.
Snowgrave route is about working with FRIEND to corrupt the game even further and using the shadow crystals for evil.

>>533869832
I agree wholeheartedly. In particular he needs my pussy as I need to fuck him desperately.

>for console versions, the console borders turn into a scary version of the stars with scary evil smiles on them during Tenna's breakdown
Scary Tenna creepypasta...hyperrealistic Ant Tenna gloobing out of my screen...

>>533863678
This is why Noelle is best girl not a danm school flunky and a gamer

>>533870273
wow... color red... very scary....

>>533869832
But Fujo and Battat fuck nearly daily and Battat in particular gets passed around the studio

>>533869030
it's a coincidence, Toby wasn't as tight of a writer in 2015, don't get your hopes up.

my stomach no longer hurts
and yet I still desire cuddles
a conundrum

>>533870198
nigga gaster's last name literally means "an evil spirit or phantom, especially one supposed to rob graves and feed on corpses."
you think this fuck is going to be helping you do something good?

>>533863952
Another world wiped in a single slash absolute cinema

>>533870370
scary...
https://xcancel.com/tombdude/status/1928929172522516692
>another deltarune dream from last night... true form Tenna(?) and a scary realistic bald guy who claimed to be Toby Fox, THE WIZARD. He could calm Tenna down by booping them on the nose, making their face revert to normal
>May 31, 2025 (so after the design leak but still before the chapter release)

>>533870379
she needs to step up her game then. throw in some prostate milking

Catty is such a strangely good parallel for Mettaton that I'm surprised it never went anywhere
Where Mettaton is pretentious, insecure, megalomanical and insincere, she is openly trashy, friendly, loved and content. Catty is just barely knocking on the door of awareness(her naïvete not to be misinterpreted as complete) whereas Mettaton is de facto oligarch of the city. Catty(even moreso retroactively with her family's sitcom pastiche) representing the humble yet honest life Alphys could never accept, chasing lust and fame she could never handle in contrast to Mettaton's literally cold, lethal prestige.

>>533869386
This straight up looks like an enemy from the Shelter dark world in chapter 6-7

>>533870370
well what color would you say is scary then? fucking blue? GREEN?

>>533864321
I dunno about the only thing but he’s certainly more interesting than a number of other characters because of how little is really known and his significant impact on the underground

>>533869282
You can't waste a weekend unless it's work or errand related.

>>533868552
Ah
I use chub.ai to download characters and just plug the characters into Sillytavern
after making an account literally just right now, this seems pretty limited compared to it, can you even put in a proxy?

>>533870594
You think she doesn't already?

>>533870765
black

Tenna with his five lovers (me as the not visible red SOUL up his ass)

>>533864397
Dunno about it being a requirement but maybe it changes something here or there later on

>>533870942
It's nice to feel wanted

>>533870926
get the fuck outta here
"black"
black is literally nothing, you scared of literally nothing you fucking pussy?

>>533864721
Stupid nigger thinks that her boobs match her antlers they match her fur dumbass

am I still gay if I'm aroused by female Spamtenna or am i a buysexual addison pervert

If Toby wanted Noelle to actually be super weird in an uncomfortable way, he'd simply make her say she wants to be a dentist.
When's the last time you ever met someone who wanted to be a dentist?

>>533869125
>half reptile half bird, a dinosaur
Heh

>which Susie is
She's A Dragon

>>533870140
I think Mike was Spamton's stage name, but ever since the divorce Tenna's been treating Mike as a "role" separate from Spamton and expecting others to fill in like anyone can easily become Mike. When Tenna refers to Mike positively, he's secretly yearning for Spamton but doesn't want to admit that to himself or anyone else.
It puts "MIKE KU~N" into a new perspective. But at the same time, the way he's easily dismissive of Mike at times might hint at how he didn't fully appreciate Spamton's companionship when they were still together.
Maybe when Spamton refers to Mike positively, he's also indirectly talking about Tenna. Mike is technically this fake identity they both crafted and the one thing they're both using as proxy to talk about their past(and eachother) with fondness.
Or maybe Mike is the guy on the phone.

thoughts

>>533871223
Identify with whatever you feel like, labels mean jack shit when human sexuality is so diverse
Spamtenna yuri really is fucking hot so I get it

I wanna be a shote gote with suckable petite gote shote nipples... so unfair...

Its fucking crazy how bad Ruins is compared to the rest of Undertale.

>>533871426
Deltarune shall have an age check to determine whether (you) will date Kris or Gaster

>>533865652
Isn’t it that noelle is the second hero?

I like believing that FRIEND was the Mike who gives you the Zapper battle

>>533870942
I want to slap King away, he should be replaced with Battat or Ramb!

What is it with Cattenheimer I and being doomed to watch those she loves most dabble with forces beyond their comprehension

>>533871578
it's called a filter, keeps the plebeians out
not that it did a good job but that's beside the point

>>533871676
Now this is a schizotheory I can get behind

>>533865712
Yeah this guy can’t be taken seriously bro doesn’t even know dialogue one of the goners explicitly states gaster made the core so even dumbasses like you can know while doing a search that’ll take less than 5 minutes that he is mentioned in the game

>>533871578
it's so bad
if you're going in blind and you're not immediately charmed by the monster encounters and Toriel, it must be a baffling first impression

>>533871748
there's something funny about a harmless heart shaped object being the dom in the relationship

>>533871676
my humble servant!? my friend!?

>>533871904
see
>>533866316
when I said he doesn't appear and isn't mentioned I was referring to deltarune
if you bothered to check context you'd know that

>>533871578
For those doubting Reverse Undertale theory:

ROOTS
chapter 6

>>533865712

>>533871967
you have to squeeze the bottle, Kris, what the fuck

>>533872157
lmao

Would you say Tenna is a DILF? How old do you realistically think he is?

>>533872331
He is a gilf

>>533871231
Every time I've gone to the dentist they've either fucked up massively, tried to scam me out of a massive amount of money, or both. Genuinely awful profession, would instantly make Noelle a bottom one character for me.

said Susie Deltarune

>>533872205
I'm more worried about Toriel's death grip on that scotch what the fuck

>>533872157
the shelter literally uses the sound from your phones garbage noise
it is a noise meant to represent broken machinery
it has nothing to do with gaster
>bbbut its in entry 17
again, its probably just broken machinery playing over gasters recording (assuming entry 17 is even gaster, there's no actual proof of that either)

>>533872468
>MY DELTARUNE

>>533865910
Monsters have magic in undertale because that’s basically how it’s always been

>>533871553
Same
ngl that post from earlier made me make a shote gote persona for my chatbots

>>533872457
I haven't had that happen to me, however, whenever I try to think of why someone would become a dentist, I can't even imagine it's for the money.
There's probably other things far easier that also don't involve digging around in people's mouths.

>>533872384
I really doubt he's THAT old

>>533872543
anyone could've said that?
there's a massive list of candidates for the narrator from the opening of the game, with the most likely one being that it's a brand new character we haven't met yet

>>533872468
>room_gaster doesn't feature gaster
also it's called MUS_SMILE and it's heavily associated with DARK FOUNTAINS

>>533872331
he's mid 50, spamton is early 50s

>>533872782
>it's called MUS_SMILE
>doesn't feature any smiling

>>533872708
Everyone should have a shote gote sona!

>>533870725
how would YOU know, mister anon? unless...
*rips off the mask beneath your face to reveal you're actually...*
AAAIIIEEEEEE FRIEND NOOOOOO SPARE ME AHHHHH

>>533872714
you'll be a dentist
you have a talent for causin' things pain
son, be a dentist
people will pay you to be inhumane

>>533872782
>>room_gaster doesn't feature gaster
this is probably true, yes

>>533871967
>Hey kid, you know that thing they do in Hentais where the woman eats a dudes ass while jerking him off into her tits? Me and your mom didn't do that because I don't have an ass, but she tried to. I just thought you should know. It was entirely her idea. Your mom is gross.

>>533872910
FRIEND wasn't really the greatest singer...

>>533873180
>you know that thing they do in Hentais where the woman eats a dudes ass while jerking him off into her tits?
What the fuck that happens in straight hentais???

>>533873139
Royal Sciences LLC, Gaster Blast this man.

>>533872737
gaster's theme plays in the goner maker sequence
i think you are being dense on purpose
either that or you are playing devil's advocate

>>533867152
He is le angel and thinks we are a human angel (we arent) and will reveal theres a monster god (its evil) and the dreemurs will be said to be descendants (theyre goats)

>>533873432
I don't know why people are still replying it's clear what this person's schtick is. he'll reply to this too with something trying to make it look like he's not a troll

>>533873432
Devil's advocate acknowledges evidence against it and at least tries to come up with viable counterpoints

>>533873180
If Sans doesn't have an ass but does have a dick, does that mean he shit's and pisses out of his dick?

>>533873432
>gaster's theme plays in the goner maker sequence
and lost girl plays over both ralsei and gerson, are they Dess???
by this logic toriel is actually undyne because the ruins theme also plays in waterfall
I'll spell it out for you since you're too stupid to get it on your own; Motifs DO NOT MEAN there is a connection

>>533872764
>human soul + monster soul = uber strong being
>human soul + darkner soul = ???
much to think about

Is Gaster's Theme actually in Another HIM or are you just calling Another HIM gaster's theme

>>533867981
>you can make a million excuses, but you have to accept you're playing devil's advocate
lol
to be clear though, my ultimate point is that i would have preferred if chara received the full narrative attention that asriel got, and wasn't left as a rorschach test for players to decipher and interpret. it bothers me how strongly headcanons dominate perceptions and discussion of chara all over the fandom (especially headcanons that totally whitewash chara) and how much insistence people have on them being a victim more than a vile shithead. they can be both. i would prefer if they were both.

>>533873632
He's referring to when Another HIM is sped up

>>533873782
that makes no sense, it's either in the notes or it's not

>>533873180
>the woman eats a dudes ass while jerking him off into her tits?
Sans what fucking shit are you looking at where the women are literally bending like a damn snake mid sex

>>533873509
>the monster god is Ebott (Ebott is opposite of Toby, God is opposite of Dog, Friendly is opposite of Annoying, but it's evil because it's the opposite of the Dog who ultimately helps you)
>it's also a cat because cat is the opposite of dog
>evil mountain spirit nekomata with two tails, cat deity capable of necromancy, shape-shifting, and causing great fires
>Ralsei is a fragment/reincarnation/offspring/clone of this ancestor of the Dreemurrs hence his powers
>Seam and Mike are also fragments of it, but together their anagram is MAKE SEMI which restores Grandpa Semi to existence from behind the tree with the eggs
>final boss is a grandpa and a cat
>when the cat fuses with grandpa he gets cat ears and holds donuts in his hands
>it all returns to Dr. Andonuts

>>533868836
Even more reason to kill this little shit the second im free of him

>To the tune of Gaster's Theme
I support rape, I support rape, I support rape, I support rape
i Support Rape, i Support Rape, i Support Rape, i Support Rape
I support rape, I support rape, I support rape, I support rape
i Support Rape, i Support Rape, i Support Rape, i Support Rape

I still want friend to drag me into the woods and fuck me to death with it's giant barbed cat dick.

>>533869618
We’ve had gays in both this and undertale with that alone the letter squad would stink up the place with their presence

>>533873665
cute
now give them trauma

>>533873948
you made me ponder this
https://litter.catbox.moe/k095mvrge5buxoy2.png

>>533874487
FRIEND impregnated Kris with the soul. It all makes sense now.
Which means... The baby is you.

Asriel got Dess pregnant, and then she died by thinking Toriel's shotgun wedding was a bluff.

>>533867152
all Toby's games from now on will have the inciting incident be Gasterposting about his new project
it's all connected by funny science man and his gang of otherworldly douchebags

>>533869904
Yeup it’s confirmed im fucking it I don’t care the route necessary she’s not safe time for mating press

>>533874487
Ouch, thinking about how much that would hurt makes me wince but I hope it happens to you if it would make you happy

>>533874540
>t.

>>533872291
Dess looking down at us from the church windows...

There is literally, and I mean LITERALLY, no way for the pink/gold motif to pay off in a way that's satisfying after so long of buildup.

>>533874864
i'll just rape susie, since she'll probably be more traumatized afterwards. easy to break down and build back up

>>533873665
I like all these wholesome/cute pics of these four

Guys, I think

>>533875191
Stop thinking

>>533875191
I don't think

>>533875191
Suzy is green

>>533875191
Descartes no

>>533875191
green lizar when

>>533874553
I have never seen that pose in my life and it looks super awkward
If you're gonna eat ass, you should just eat it like a normal person

>>533870847
I'll give that a try.
I dont have much experience with chatbots desu

>>533874553
spamtenna sex position

>>533875092
You get the shelter key from Susie's route but can only use it on Noelle's route

Is Sans being the secret boss of chapter 5 the fandom's worst idea or best idea?

>>533875092
How about a field of pink and gold

hello i love them

>>533869904
slut eyes

>>533875610
How about that prick's field when he saw the pink and gyold

This is the first decent Penumbra Phantasm I've heard for Deltarune and mainly for the 6 seconds where it's just electric guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZX6OUouDcs

>>533873863
You know how Toby likes messing with the speed of music

>>533874553
This looks so awkward

>>533875608
I have not encountered this
why would people want this

>>533875608
I do like the idea of Ralsei getting a solo battle against a lightner rather than a darkner, if you'll excuse my merging of schizo theories. Also sans is going to have to do *something* big soon if this game is going to get anywhere close to wrapping up its hundreds of loose plot threads

>>533873352
Some

>>533874553
Cool table

>>533875775
They don't understand
They have to remove the Doctor bit

>>533875490
https://litter.catbox.moe/6waqnrmez8ojwh9k.png

>>533875765
pink and gyatt

>>533875092
Sure it will
>it stands for pizzaand burritos
>*pogfaces*

>>533875865
>Also sans is going to have to do *something* big
no? he could just stay in the light world doing random memes for the rest of the game and nothing would be wrong with that. The story hasn't set him up to do anything yet (other than toriel)

>>533873432
Do not engage the retard

>>533875939
hawt

>>533875489
Alright, I'll be here if you need any help setting it up, if I recall correctly I wouldn't call the setup for it entirely user friendly but the payoff is definitely worth

>>533876080
why? scared I'll ruin your delusions?

>>533875939

>>533876046
next youll tell me deltarune sans has no connection to undertale sans
yadda yadda shut up

>>533876219
that is correct, they are 2 separate characters, same for all the other lightners who share likeness to undertales monsters

>>533875863
https://x.com/TheAvgCrusader/status/1947121504438698058

>>533875608
>battle starts
>ralsei casts pacify
>battle ends because sans is a lazy fuck

>>533876219
what next? 2+2 is 4? fuckin bullshit man

I think the river person will be a secret boss at some point. I have no evidence for this other than vibes.

>>533876448
I took a look at the image and closed it immediately
sorry

>>533875608
There are worse ideas like ralsei getting jealous of Susie’s increased healing capabilities when bro barely has enough self worth to look at that in any way resembling jealousy instead of seeing himself as worthless or some other shit

>>533874707
At least until thistrend of le heckin meta dies

>>533875939
CUMESING

>>533876610
i think you're going to be a secret boss
you, specifically, in my copy of deltarune
no i'm not going to be a secret boss in your copy

mother caught me jamming to black knife. now i am a fool.

>>533873180
apparently i'm the only person in this general that knows what you're talking about

>>533876838

Jam a black knife into your mother

If you write design program and publish a game where two people get r*ped, are you responsible for r*pe

in chapter 5 weird route Noelle will say "kris thanks for giving me the strength to vibe check berdly this ring really hurts tho"

>>533873180
>Tonight.
>You.

>>533876826
I'm gonna show up outside your house one day and we can fight.

>>533876927
No

What actions butterfly effect resulted in Carol calling Noelle on weird route when she doesn't on normal route?

Saw a post saying that at one point HP is going to be revealed as a shortening of "Hope" and that's why sans has 1 hp and Susie has the most so far
It could be possible.

>>533876942
Toby would write that

>>533877119
Noelle says something to carol during her lecture I would guess

>>533876838
Could be worse, both your parents could become the dreaded high school bullies you never had because of the music you listen to and because you're a huge nerd and make you want to kys haha-
Sorry that happened.

>>533877119
>when she doesn't on normal route?
she does call you on the normal route, the topic is just different and she sounds different because she's on speakerphone

>>533876927
no
writing a story where rape occurs is not equitable to rape, nor is reading it, not even if the story is told in a video game format with multiple story paths
i know bitching about the younger generation is as old as humanity but i know for a fact that my generation, when we were teenagers, were not nearly as brain dead fucking stupid as gen alpha is now

>>533877119
Berdly's Gamer Skill Allowed Him To Call Noelle One Frame Befone Carol
Not Allowing Carol's Own Call To Get Through And Reach Noelle's Cellphone

>>533877176
>HP = Hope
>DR = Dreams

>>533877314
Read nigga, I'm talking about at Noelle's house
On normal route Noelle gets a call from Berdly, on weird route Noelle gets a call from Carol

https://x.com/RecDTRH/status/1952181411726909558 https://files.catbox.moe/utebof.mp4
don't forget from the 1970s

sans represents a point of no return for kris, there's no way they can deny their parents' separation anymore or entertain the hope that they can get back together, kris will hate him for that no matter what sans does from this point forward
why the hell would you use THAT character to give ralsei important character development

>>533876957
What did Kris say to completely change Susie's brain chemistry here

>>533877430
>It happened. It snowed.

>>533877436
this would make sense if kris was at any point ever shown to care even slightly about their parents divorce or have any feeling towards them getting back together

>>533873180
It’s called Rimzuri
And it’s disgusting.

I tear streaks down my face whenever I hear an anon mention "parents". Maybe I should just stay in /trash/.

>>533877582
i can never tell if utg anons are serious

>>533877570
I still think it's pretty amusing that Kris 2-0'd Susie and she just kinda brushed it off in time for chapter 1

>>533876957
>Me.
>Festival.

>>533877742
of course I'm serious, why wouldn't I be?

If Germ Warfare was in Deltarune he could solo everything

>>533877742
it's just one guy havin a laugh by pretending subtext isnt real

>>533877668
I'm sorry anon, I didn't know. Didn't mean to hurt you.

>The church is confirmed to have some security system with the motion sensor guarding the holy water
>You need to rob the church in order to bring recruits to Castle Town
Wonder if that will go anywhere?

Could Lv1 ">But it refused." Frisk Act-no-jutsu defeat Lv20 universe buster Chara?

>>533877430
Is that Paula Earthbound?

>>533877668
PARENTS PARENTS PARENTS PARENTS

>>533877894
where was the sick juice in the darkworld

>>533877392
wait hold on
i was 18 when ut came out, i wasn't on social media but i do remember people were brain dead stupid in a similar way back then about the genocide run
were those people generally younger teenagers, or were they around my age
if they were around my age then i'm just wrong, my generation was just as stupid as gen alpha

>>533877859
Both of these pansexuals put a kid in the hospital and were the target of a cult...

>>533877613
Wait it has a term?
>Look it up
I don't know why I thought this would be the one time straight porn wouldn't be an absolute snoozefest, how very foolish of me

>>533877835
i don't mean to insult you but what did you think chapter 3 was about

I full believe the knight made the classroom fountain and the library fountain, and we know he made the church fountain
we saw kris make the living room fountain
but I'm still confused as to who made the supply closet fountain? highly doubt it was the knight or kris

>>533877859
he would solve every conflict in the game before it starts
and mae would introduce twice as many, also before the game starts

Pet ant

>>533878178
a big talking TV?

>>533878286
What's with fujos turning Tenna into a bug

>>533878026
Scarlixer.

>>533878357
Toby's concept art

>>533873180
>>533877613
>Look up tag
Oooooh, the hands aren't involved in this
"Jerking him off into her tits" implies that she would be using her hands to do so instead of just using her tits
>>533878173
I don't get it, what makes straight porn a snoozefest for you

>>533878173
Well that explains why you like dykes and faggots so much. Especially Noelle.

>>533878286
Spider

>>533878334
anon i am going to give you a wedgie

>>533878357
Anon...

>>533878083
Noelle WOULD have a multiple day long psychotic break that ends with a kid in a hospital, except this time it goes much better for her because Carol is the mayor

>>533878474
wtf did I do?

>>533878414
tricky toby... of course...
gotta say I love his stupid concept art, temmie really is the brains of this operation

>>533878205
Asriel?

>>533878474
imagine giving a big talking TV a wedgie and showing his Spam Thong underwear to the audience while he squirms and tries to hide his boner but ends up showing his juicy butt even more haha

Why did Toriel gave Frisk a cowboy hat at the end of Undertale? Is this what inspired Clover's design?

>>533878475
>(Ant)Tenna
Yes anon I see I am the stupid now

>>533878205
Toriel

>>533876957
Hehehehe what do you think he means "tonight you"? Like he's threatening me or something.

People always point out how "The Knight" is singular, and how the prophecy suggests there is only one Knight. But what if The Knight was just a title? A mantle passed around by a secret organization attempting to accelerate The Roaring for an as of yet unknown reason.

We might have ideas as to who's causing the roaring... But why?

I haven't spoken to my parents in over a year. Guess who my fave is

>>533878594
>He said no pickles

>>533878423
>what makes straight porn a snoozefest for you
The way it's drawn 99% of the time with proportions so big they're ridiculous and kinda gross to look at and how it's always the exact same self-insert fantasy where every character involved has their personality stripped away for the sake of cringe lines that aren't any hot

>>533878205
the angel
"banishing the angels heaven" refers to sealing the closet dark world

>>533878812
asriel

>>533878812
Jerry undertale?

>>533816028
>link expired
ANON NO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME

>>533879039
Fuck I forgot to save it

>>533878960
Banishing the angel's heaven could mean multiple things, since Chapters 3 and 4 have asserted that the prophecy can be interpreted in multiple ways. E.g, the Snowgrave route and the Normal routes still fulfil the same general predictions of the prophecy.
People theorize the angel is the player, and as we collect darkners to add to our kingdom, it becomes a sort of "heaven" for us. Closing our heaven would also hammer home the escapism part of the themes.

>>533871675
No. Literally, no. Gaster assigned Susie-to-you, no. And Gaster had secret bosses warning you that Noelle is not the proper girl, no. And Susie is given to you to be stronger without performing demonic rituals to beat the knight, no!

>>533879039
Here it is, just for you
https://litter.catbox.moe/9g8hn0qiwjxep6kk.png

>>533875608
That would be one of the hackiest things Toby could possibly do for Deltarune. It's like people learned nothing from the shitty "Kris possessed by Chara fighting Sans to the death on the sidewalk in broad daylight" concepts from the Chapter 1 days.

>>533878865
That's not even an issue with straight porn exclusively though
Additionally, I don't think the "Rimzuri" Tag is the place to look for in character porn

>>533879182
>People theorize the angel is the player
people are wrong

>>533873948
>>533874553
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=13047415&tags=rimzuri+

>>533879295
But toby fox is a people

>>533879226
I can't believe you've done this.

Every “Susie is not the girl” theory is insanely contrarian to how the story actually works and functions.
Susie doesn’t break the game and cause evil things to happen when she’s the girl. She saves lives. Noelle has to destroy them. Like a virus in a videogame.

>>533878414
WHAT THE FUCK

>>533879354
I'm sure he's been wrong before

start digging in yo butt twin

>>533879295
don't give me that:
>angel is gaster
>angel is noelle
>angel is a super secret boss we haven't seen
bullshit. we literally see the prophecy tile for the angel, and it's a dark screen, a reflection of us. please, state your reasons

THE SECRET BOSS OF CHAPTER FIVE IS W.D. GASTER

>>533879447
Anon you are LOSING IT, put DOWN the PHONE

>>533879226

>>533879168
Lancer: Well, have you checked?

>>533879479
>and it's a dark screen, a reflection of us
this is full on schizophrenia
clearly tobius foxmuff is just hiding the angels design from us for now so he can reveal them in a future chapter

>>533879235
I think people ewho buy into that theory assume the deltarune sans fight would be nothing like undertale's

>>533879335
Anon I'm >>533878423 I already figured it out

>>533879235
Nah. Sans and Ralsei basically have the main core of the story and its secrets wielded in their hands.

my bonar... .

>>533879479
>we literally see the prophecy tile for the angel, and it's a dark screen, a reflection of us.
How about light your fucking room properly if you're going to play on a glossy screen, you fucking loser.

>>533879613
it is that deep, anon. just accept that you're too shallow to connect the dots. i bet you think the angel's going to be gaster's giant floating head and hands as a boss fight.

What would your fave do if they were big?

>>533879226
this is what you deserve

>>533879293
You're right, it is not exclusive to straight porn but it is most prevalent in it
Don't deny how most straight porn is just the viewer intended to self-insert into a pre-existing character suddenly turned gigachad in the porn with a bitchbreaker that either already has or is about to get a cult of cockcleaners just because of his dick

>>533879698
y she fat

>>533879731
If that was the angel, it would be like a horrible monster that shouldn’t exist. And now Kris has to remember this is the being he took in.

>>533879759
>it is that deep, anon
being schizo isn't "deep" its deranged.

>>533879835
what does toriel eat besides pie and pancakes?

>>533879793
>

>>533879987
Snails

do you think the other mikes ever molest pluey because they know he could never tell anyone

>>533880031
>This anon has an upstairs
God to be that wealthy

>>533879613
But there's a multitude of things tobert could have done if he wanted to hide it from us
He could have had the prophecy panel facing sideways away from the screen, he could have had something in the foreground blocking it, he could have even just not had the damn panel at all if it didn't have some sort of meaning that could be immediately parsed from it

>>533879039
I mean, I can reupload it if you want me to, just give me a few minutes

>>533880041
yeah but they're baked into pies

>>533879867
>"durr, being able to read between the lines is being a schizo!!!11!!1"
gerson literally fucking teaches you this lesson, did you play the game? you must be the biggest pussy in the world if you think recontextualizing your media is being "waaah, psychotic, deranged!!11"

i think sans is just a guy who runs a convenience store and likes fat goat women and he hasn't been tainted by whatever fucks him up in undertale yet

>>533880124
>But there's a multitude of things tobert could have done if he wanted to hide it from us
yes, and he did one of them

Who do you think the girl with the sword in the prophecy is? Dess?

>>533879793
take over the city and rampage but then he realizes he's still shorter than his ex-husband so he reverts into his primal form and makes a pipis lair while gathering a pipis army and raiding restaurant alleys for food

do you think the other addisons ever molested spamton because they knew no one would care anyway

>>533879479
>and it's a dark screen, a reflection of us. please, state your reasons

Who the fuck plays a dark game with a glossy screen? Haaaaa? Are you an idiot? Are you real dumb?

Now they tryna say Battat touched Pluey and that's why he quiet

>>533880149
meds

>>533879820
Yes, I am going to deny that. I think it's porn, where sex happens and you're meant to get off it it

All this arguing about the angel, when we know the real answer is Ralsei.

>>533880230
susie but she uses a sword

>>533880319
I said that about Dess and Kris before 3+4, I was a goddamn visionary. Now Doelester is mainstream but I always knew this shit was Perks of Being a Wallflower

>>533880230
it's Susie you retard

>>533880126
yeas

So, what do we think is written in this book?

Ralsei heavily pregnant with a clutch of yoshi eggs (susie put them there)

>>533880245
Toby confirmed this in a penpal letter he sent me.

>>533880126
please anon thank you so miuch

>>533880563
History I assume

>THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL
FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE.
>(A clothes wardrobe. A pair of small angel wings are inside... worn out and tattered.)
Hmm

>>533880563
detailed account of all of humanity's war crimes justifying the Monsters' final solution

>>533880178
Just having it be black for absolutely no reason would be an absolutely terrible way to do that though
Like, if the characters can see it, then why can't we see it?

>>533880717
Why would we want to banish Noelle?

>>533880451
Good for you if you can get off on it, I however cannot get off from sex just because of the fact it is sex

>>533880847
it's not black for no reason, it's black so that you can't see it

https://x.com/CloudisSleeping/status/1952102268838228122

>>533880245
joke's on them because now they're in debt after Seam's strip poker game and their poor business decisions, they'll have to come crawling back to Spamton and have him pimp them out in the Castletown brothel sex café

>>533880616
pluey.......

>>533879731

>>533880703
Real wise guy here

>>533880935
Why can we see the other panels but not that one

>>533881129
because it's hidden

Asgore refuses to pay the alimony like a fucking gigachad

>>533879479
>* Hey, below the words, that picture...
>* ... What the hell... is that supposed to be...?
>* That... that's the Angel, Susie.
>* What... to my understanding, it actually looks like.
>* ...
>* I... I dunno about that, man.
that's not the reaction i'd expect from her if it's just a human face, or a heart, or noelle, or anything she can immediately recognize
gaster might fit, hyperdeath asriel might fit, hell, >>533879731 kinda fits in that it's grotesque enough to not immediately parse as human
maybe a photorealistic human looks grotesque to simplistic sprite-based people but i doubt toby intended to just call the player ugly
easiest explanation is that it's something that will be revealed in the other half of the game

>>533881028
He made me a furry :(

>>533880823
kris was kept as a war trophy

>>533881189
Don't say lies

>>533876398
>2 separate characters
>"The place where it rained"
>The "Don't forget" picture in San's lab
>Sans' general feelings of being homesick how he "gave up trying to go back"
>that shit with the machine
>THE DOOR TO HIS ROOM IS LITERALLY THE WARP DOORS
Yeah, alright

>>533881163
Ah, okay, I see now
I've been had
I bit the bait hook line and sinker
You're a very funny man anon

>>533880935
doesn't FRIEND show up hidden in chaprer 4 prophecy too? Can't find the picture

>>533881362
bro just saying random shit and acting like it in any way disproves what I said

>>533880558
>>533880659
You were probably expecting something more interesting and I'm sorry about that, but here
https://litter.catbox.moe/doj20cmmxs3yzqmf.png

>>533881362
incoming reply about how all of those connections are irrelevant because they're not explicitly laid out in plain text

Having a huge metal shield created so that I can grab it before any battles Asgore might find himself in and jump in front of him with it to block dangerous attacks (works only marginally better than him just tanking them or dodging unfortunately), pulling back after a deep kiss to slide the hand not currently touching Asgore's cheek down past his tummy below the beltline and reveling in seeing the face he makes when he gets excited, dropping by one of those commercial arts and crafts retail stores after work in order to get more thumbtacks and a menagerie of colored strings for Asgore's big theory boards since he is starting to get low on each

>>533881197
If we're making comparisons to Undertale, when Flowey collected the souls, he became "photoshop flowey". That hyperrealism was chosen to convey an otherworldly-ness.
Maybe the player's anatomy looks strange to the layer of reality below ours.

if I don't kiss Papyrus I'll explode okay goodnight

>>533881420
>ask a question
>receive an answer
>"OH MY GOD ITS BAIT"
I don't get you people sometimes

>>533879820
While I know there is a lot of that out there, most of the porn I look at doesn't do that, it just slightly alters their personality to facilitate the scenario that leads to sex
I just think you're looking in the wrong places

>>533879634
Just give the fight to a new character at that point.

>>533879664
Sans and Ralsei can wield my balls in their hands, I don't give a fuck. Be more original.

>>533881486
Hush now... it's perfect. I want to lick him from head to toe

>>533881486
SEXOOOO I love the undone pants and boxers, thank you anon

>>533881420
gay gote

>>533881535
I hope you an Asgore have a good honeymoon, anon-chan

>>533881620
yeah but your answer is ill-informed, reductive and especially retarded. nobody wants to humour your autistically adamant opinions.

>>533881630

>>533881521
stop feeding the troll, what are you some kind of feeder? like tenna stuffing a big yummy slice of pie into spamton's mouth and another and another until he's overfull, then watching him absorb the darkner food into his body? Haha

>>533881486
Nonsense, he's perfect and he's going in my folder now. Thank you anon

>>533881748
my answer is correct, it needs to be nothing more

>>533881197
Maybe it's how the SOUL looks when unconstrained by its heartshapedobject form
it's red miles isn't it...

>>533881224
many such cases

Toby can you make Deltarune a horror game yet? Give me True Lab x10 you tricky dog.

>>533881774
it dont matter
none of this matters

>>533881779
▶ ▼

>>533880563
the history of the human city that was submerged in the lake during the last roaring

>>533881947
that is the worst attempt at a triforce I have ever seen

>>533881919
You're wrong

>>533881646
>>533881702
>>533881779
I was not expecting this many people to like it but I'm glad you do 8>[^)]

>>533881947
its like some king of...legend of tenna...
speaking of WHERE is the art of spamton dressed up as link and tenna dressed up as zelda why has no one done that yet

>>533881919
>>533882080
>nothing matters
>everything matters
you're both wrong, only some things matter. The things I care about. Everything else does not matter.

I'm in your house like carpet

>>533881440
>random shit
That "random shit" is shit that is directly foreshadowed in the game.

The one I don't like about the release of these new chapters is that everbody's theories were blown out so bad that it's left people with a severe irony complex. Everything is a "subversion" or "red herring". Chapter 5 DEFINITELY could not be in the flower shop, that's TOO PREDICTABLE.

>>533880485
Why are you like this?

>>533881730
Thank you

>>533881997
I don't even think it's a triforce, it's... something tells me it's a botched reply.

what if Kris was proud of being from the South

>>533882171
having some scenes between these two would be so fun

>>533882263
it's random sans related crap, you're just throwing everything you have at me in the hopes I'll give up because you just have so much stuff to throw

>>533882245

>>533881947
this is a warning telling us that if we do not change our ways, a swarm of locusts will eat toby fox

>>533881535
Maddie, you live RIGHT NEXT to his flower shop!
Just talk to him sometime, he's a friendly guy!

>>533882454
you dork lol

>>533882434
soosie's chin on my head...

>>533882621
ad hominem

>>533882720
ad fartinem

I didn't play undertale and only know details of the game through cultural osmosis. What is the relationship between chara, flowey, and asriel? Are chara and flowey the same character?

>>533882621
how am i a dork? because i'm not entertaining your delusions? i'm sorry, but all the "evidence" you've given me has no solid connections. you're just relying on toby's vague writing style to interpret this schizo-fantasy out of the void.

>>533882720
yea

Why do you people want freedom so bad? What will you even do with it?

>>533882454
>random
The stuff I said was specifically relating to deltarune. It's not "random".

Explain to me how sans having a hidden photo is in lab that has the name of the main theme of the game on it is a coincidence.

>>533882791
yeah sure, whatever you say pal

>>533882824
forgot name, here

>>533882791
chara was the first human who fell down many years before the game started
he/she was adopted by the dreemurr family, asriel was his her sibling
due to bad writing one day both the siblings died, due to even more bad writing asriel was reborn as flowey

Virus sex.
NOW!!

>>533882791
chara fell into the underground, was Asriel's adopted sibling, killed themself and Asriel absorbed their soul and took them to the surface, humans almost killed Asriel, he stumbled home and died in a flower garden, alphys injected one of the flowers with determination, and so Asriel was reincarnated as flowey, but without a soul so he's a sociopath

>>533882967
explain to me how it isn't a coincidence.

>>533882824
WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING HIM CONTROL! YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!

>>533883085
explain to ME why apples fall from trees

>>533882967
>The stuff I said was specifically relating to deltarune
literally none of it is related to deltarune, except maybe the warp door but that is just a reused asset, no meaning there.
everything you pointed out could equally be used to claim sans is from earthbound. Or fucking pokemon.

>>533883142
It's one of those arm blood pressure things I think

>>533883085
Nice way to dodge the question, fag.

i think sans and berdly should be publicly executed in front of a cheering crowd

>>533882239
>Why has no one done that yet
Which one of them holds a bladed instrument and/or has chivalrous motifs? Not just anyone gets to cosplay a Hero of Time.

Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.

I love Chara

>>533883142
he did this because I bought something from another addison yesterday and he did not take it well

>>533883298
Not every Link is a Hero of Time you absolute idiot

>>533883181
gravity

>>533883492
no. what? prove it.

>>533883547
ok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

>>533883298
Spamton is Tingle

Goodnight gote
May you dream of fave and wake up to more fave pics

>>533883230
so what does your loosely cobbled together evidence amount to? why would sans go to the undertale world? pretty sure the roaring fixes itself in the end, so sans would have no reason to leave. just seems like a delusional idea to me.

>>533883636
i asked *you* to prove it. you cant just post links.

>>533883723
I posted proof

>>533883636
Whoa...

hey could you anons shut up
i am trying to masturbate

the mike trio gets stranded on an island and pluey is the first to go because he won't stop meowing in distress even with his disguise off so battat rips him to shreds and him and jongler eat his flesh