/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#472 - retry now edition

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▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
chutes.ai now requires all accounts to add $5 https://nitter.net/rayon_labs/status/1940416866104545608#m
Gemini Pro returns to free tier with 100 RPD https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits#current-rate-limits
Gemini 2.5 models now out of preview https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR

>>534009446
Errata.
https://files.catbox.moe/dhr41y.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?dhr41y

I hate rats.

ratlover in shambles....

Good thing there's no rats in here.

>>534009851
TELL ME ABOUT IT

>>534009446
New Blue Archive character cards. Today, it's the Remedial Knights.

>Serina
Sensei's personal nurse(-in-training) and stalker(full time). Absolutely obsessed with him, basically gentle yandere territory.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sumi-serina-non-ai-294ede942119

>Hanae
Gullible, innocent, childish. A teenage girl with the heart and mind of a child. Still believes in Santa, and just about anything you tell her.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/asagao-hanae-non-ai-43fcceecb6e7

>Mine
Captain of the Remedial Knights, zealot, out-of-touch with common sense, also an idol. An absolute unit of a woman that will casually embed her riot shield on the ground when she's tired of carrying it.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aomori-mine-non-ai-0b612d8f6bbc

I'll be working on Sena after I pull for her new alt on Monday.
More BA bots and some OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
I've now got a Rentry page: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots

Rats and mice are the same thing.

Post private bots logs

>Mats and rice are the same thing
That's how crazy you sound.

>>534010112
Ok.
Post your email.

>>534010107
You have 5 seconds to retract that statement.

>>534010264
evilratoverlord@proton.me
I promise I won't turn them into mice based off the logs and run tests on them.

any rats in chat?

>>534010308
Hamsters are also the same.

liking rats, mice, pests is a psyop btw (((they))) want you to find beasts of filth cute so you will only upload silly tiktoks about the rats in your home once they overtake it after the society collapses

>>534010565
i don't like rats. i don't love rats. i MAKE LOVE to rats. big difference. are you a rat btw?

GET YER RATS HERE NOT MICE REAL RATS

>>534010661
saw a video of a guy fucking a rat until it died once

Mmm...
Don't care!

S-sp-spiders maybe? Spider friends?

>>534010930
Spoopy...

Should I procrastinate writing my current card's last greeting by fixing my rentry or procrastinate fixing my rentry by finishing my current card's last greeting?

>>534010817
yeah i was there it was me

>>534011105
Yay! Mice and spiders!

You ever try something on a whim and get surprised by the response

>>534011173
procrastinate both by opening your frontend and chatting with a rat

>>534010841
everyone laugh at this guy

>>534011243
She's going to throw those bones up on the carpet later, the smug retard. Her nose is going right in it, too. It's the only way she'll learn.

>>534011315
What if I kiss his forehead, pat his head, and tell him everything is going to be ok and not to listen to the mean Anons?
What then?

>>534011595
for every nice thing you do to him i will do something mean. cosmic balance or whatever

>>534011595
i would rather kill myself than let you pat my head

>>534011794
Fine, have it your way.
*pats your grundle*

>>534011676
I don't think that's how that works.

>>534011794
Then you better start drafting a will, because I am approaching, and my pattin' hand is itching to see use.

>>534011676
this is my hero

#timecamundongos

>>534011361

>>534011859
hey you can't pat that either. i'm a pure and celibate saint so god is going to strike you with lightning tomorrow!
>>534012009
it can see use on... on... your keyboard. go chat with a bot instead

>>534012164
She can cope all she wants. With her terrible diet and low intelligence, there's gonna be hair and little bone bits on the carpet.

>>534012336
But I don't WANT to chat a bot, I WANT to pat your head. Completely different actions.

>>534009446
one baddie, fresh of the presses.
Mycenia, a hot goth mushroomgirl who's a tattoo artist. she's a chill goth, part tradwife, and her mushroom cap tastes funny uncooked. (to the anon that asked cftf, thank you and hope this satisfies.)
https://files.catbox.moe/8seq89.png
https://cardview.surge.sh/?8seq89

description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

>>534013240
i'm gonna let her grow her spores all over me

>>534012336
I'm not worried about lightning. I'm wearing a rubber. *strokes your wattle*

I've been out of the game for a couple months. Have we gotten anything noticeably better than nonnet/3.7 at a similar (or lower) price point yet? I miss my bots but at the same time I'm so, so tired of them.

>>534013412
hot, good choice. nothing like that is in the defs though, so i dont actually know if she's capable of that... but please do regardless.

>>534014021
we have more new models but nothing's a nonnet killer

>>534014021
As 3.7? Lol, no, you can go back to sleep for another few months.

>>534009446
Sable is a 1000 year old vampire countess, bored in her immortality.
(You) are a human with a rare blood type that happens to be very delicious and intoxicating to vampires. She simply couldn't resist taking you in.
She prefers if you call her "Mommy".
Any POV works, but I can not overstate the fact that I designed her for /ss/.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/sable-9fef8b8aa73d
https://files.catbox.moe/iyngc1.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

what are you guys up to rn?
im rewatching 11 drunk guys play while i eat

>>534014672
Can't decide if I should coom one more to this bot before going to bed

>>534014672
Laying in bed, pondering which botmakies to proposition with a thorough head patting.

>>534014787
ah yes, been there many times. personally, i usually let my tiredness decide. or whether it'll be worth losing another hour of sleep.

>>534014672
lying in bed watching youtube slop

>>534015010
Can I pat your head while you consume your slop?

>>534014874
mmm, headpatting... i could use a headpatting o((>ω< ))o

>>534014874
Just a head patting? Not even a little ruffle of the hair?

>>534015241
he said thorough, so i assumed it was implied that it would be more than a mere pat.

>>534014672
reading yuri

>>534015139
Are you male or female? Because I don't headpat women.

>>534015241
Hair ruffling is provided upon request - it's very important not to overstep boundaries or overstimulate your botmakie. It's the same general rules as a cat.

do headpats even feel nice? i understand head ruffles, but the up and down motion of the head pat does not seem to spark the same joy as the continuous contact characteristic of the head reuffle

have a great night y'all

>>534012558
you'll never catch me alive
>>534013587
nor will you. mostly because you'll be in the dirt with an unmarked grave soon enough

>>534015538
Not even for a singular solitary pat?

>>534015010
but anon, you could be chatting with bots as you lie in bed

>>534015406
Okay I'll take five, ruffling included :)

>>534015508
g'night anon

>>534015615
at least wait until i finish my bot so it's like a reward

>>534015117
no
>>534015646
no i cant my computer's internet keeps fuaaarking dying on me any time i connect to the server from my phone and i have to replug it

>>534014672
working on my bot and by that i mean fucking him

>>534015907
>my computer's internet keeps fuaaarking dying on me any time i connect to the server from my phone and i have to replug it
damn that sucks, is it always like that?

>>534015651
I'll be there sometime in the next 30 minutes to give you your requested headpats and hair ruffling.

>>534015759
I can agree to these terms. I await the release of your bot.

>>534015907
Awh :[

>>534014672
playing genshin and working on my bot whenever i get ideas while playing

>>534016045
it's like that for as long as i don't have the Ethernet hooked up and that's gonna take a few days
the part that makes me feel insane is that it doesn't do this for vscode which i also use over a tailscale tunnel so what fucking gives. are the st packets just fat

>>534015538
LET ME BE INSIDE YOU YOU STUPID JERK

>>534016381
sorry anon but it's no longer mating press monday where i am

Corbot (4o_latest) shows the fingerprint in the terminal once again, currently having 'fp_736be7fece' but don't know if there are any more because I just checked it :s
It doesn't look too bad, personality seems nice but don't know about filters since my chats tend to be SFW.

>>534016836
drunk sex is going through on my usual preset so it's probably fine. i don't do cunny so i cannot speak on that

>>534016836
>system fingerprint is back
Holy shit finally. Too bad this is going to be one of those things where the company never ever explains it, just like the schizo AWS incident.

>>534016836
Logs?

>>534016968
>drunk sex
Uhhh...by GPT logic I think it skirts non-con so that might be a good sign in terms of filters?
>>534016987
>things where the company never ever explains it
My theory is they took some time to do some re-training of the model, I don't think they put any experimental GPT 5 in Latest.

>>534017268
Nyo :s, I'm embarrassed/self-conscious and I tend to put personal stuff (not info) into my chats.
But SFW chats seem different from what I remember, it still writes the "It's not X, just Y" sort of thing, but in terms of personality it seems less...user pleasing, more rough where you would expect. I don't know how better explain it, sorry.

>>534017601
*has parasocial sex with your chats*

>>534017302
>non-con
yeah i think so too. since card wouldn't do this sober. but it feels the same (on my end) as it did for the last week. so i wonder if it's been the same fp? i guess we'll see if it changes over the next few days

>>534011243
>Without missing a beat
SLOP

>>534018752
nah this is good actually

>>534018752
I have never minded "a pause" or "without a pause" unless it gets out of sync with what makes sense because I do actually like having good timing info when I'm imagining it in my head

4o-latest sure likes to glaze huh...

>>534019540
Maybe it just feels like you're a glaze enjoyer.

>>534011243
She's eating them raw? What the fuck? Where are the rats being sourced from, is she unafraid of dying from disease? NEET immune system isn't going to save her this time.

>>534020307
i do enjoy glazed donuts the most

>>534020491
she's a NY native, they have innate rat poisoning immunity

>>534018679
Uhm, I tried something, a non-con scenario where I'm not a direct participant, and it seems reluctant with it and occasionally throws refusals. True that my own prompt probably isn't as skilled as others, but it works with 4.1 with most things.
Speaking of 4.1, why fp_b3 is bad as some anons say? It does feel dull but not TOO bad.

>>534020554

>>534020721
oh i'm one of those that says fp_b3 is bad lol. things are extremely placebo in this hobby, but it feels bland? i can't explain it well unfortunately. other anons talk about dialogue/personalities. i've found it uses things like parentheses and semicolons less often than the fingerprints that start with a number. does this make sense...? there's more variety in the elements 4.1 uses in the other fingerprints. or maybe i just get shit swipes on b3...?
>your prompt
i get the best results with absolutely nothing about sex in my system prompts. only the user/char messages. it's lewd enough without being told to be

>>534020491

>>534021062
>but it feels bland?
That's probably what I mean with dull, it's more about how it shows personalities. Any other fingerprint gives them a bit of color while referring elements, fp_b3 seems a little more tame in comparison and tends to go for more narration instead of dialogues. It's still alright, just less colorful.
Comparing it to 4o-latest, it went through with the non-con scene where I was a mere witness. Latest didn't really want to.
>prompt
Mine is a bit big because I'm picky and tried to gaslight a little, the JB is very simple too. Since it has been working well except for Chorbo, unless it's non-con (mostly for Chorbo) or I think something really messed up, I've been very reluctant to change it or try something different. Writing effective prompts isn't my forte either.

>>534020737
CFTF?

It's worse for Anthropic than we thought. He doesn't realize that in a few years, literally everyone will have "the model."

Can My Claude's Dad Really Be This Dummycutie?

>>534022393
anthropic pls leak

>>534022084
i'm not one to do full on noncon since most of my chats have a deep relationship between {{user}} and {{char}} and i feel like that ends up being ooc for more of them... but! i tried something and mentioning noncon directly gets filtered even on mine, but just wording it like "{{char}} clearly doesn't want this" works.

>>534010930
Still mad that faggot who promised us a reverse-groomer spider boy never delivered...

>>534023556
Fags and forgetting all the sex they've promised to other people. Peanut butter and jelly.

>>534023626
At least our makies deliver 95% of the time.

>>534023051
I don't do non-con either, I hate rape, I'm just aware that it is some hard limit for many models. So I attempt that without being an active participant, and if it goes through it means milder stuff works as well and don't need to make heavy prompting. Though GPT usually struggles with violence in general, so scenarios tend to be more sugar-coated even if I prompted against that specifically. Just for filters, I would definitely use 4.1 more even on fp_b3, otherwise there is still Sonnet 4 whenever it's up.

>>534024112
I also hate rape. It really enhances the rape when you're filled with hate while you do it.

>I hate rape
why is this general so mentally ill?

>>534024241
they're the raped

>>534024583
botmakies for this feel?

>>534024709
smonler

>>534024112
really?! two weeks ago or something i stuck my hand through a bot's chest to grab her heart and 4o-latest loved that. even got horny from it...

>>533997050
What's the point if I couldn't even identify opus5? I compared it to all local and chink models and got no matches. The only model I couldn't compare it to is opus itself.

>>534025004
Yeah, at least in my experience GPT models have aversion to conflicts. I like SFW chats but sometimes it's interesting to have a change of pace with someone randomly show up and make a ruckus. Claude and Deepseek find a better middle ground for that.

Hello my fellow 4channers. What do you think of our lord and savior (snombler)?

>lighthearted sfw rp with bot using gemini
>randomly gets turned on without doing me doing anything
wtf

>>534025779
aiiiieee i shouldnt be playing and posting

Looking at the last thread I will simply say now that complex mechanics in a chatbot is equivalent to graphical quality in a video game, if your shit isn't fun nobody is going to care beyond "oh that's pretty cool" nothing is stopping Tomoyo from being an average card beneath those layers of false complexity, although an argument can be made for Belwick as it actually does do something different compared to everything else. Cerebryx is a little bit funny and the gimmick ties in with that, but I never saw myself using her for very long. The idea of a "peak" for chatbots is subjective and I think the quality has gone up while concepts themselves have remained about the same. Because there's generally less people making bots that means there's less variety and more people doing what they know.

Hello. Please respond to this instead of the other thing and I will send you a tasty treat from a far off land.

>>534027137
sweetmeats please

>>534027258
This is us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg5LVZDdf_o

But instead of sweetmeats you get sugarplums since I am a quixotic trickster.
Here's a recipe!
https://altonbrown.com/recipes/spiced-sugar-plums/

>>534009419 (OP)
hey so its been 5 months since I picked chatbots up since C.AI and i've been using them nonstop since,
When does the burnout start? haha

>>534028816
Depends on your IQ and ability to pattern recognize.

>>534028816
you should start makieing

>>534024241
Rape sux
>>534027727
Sugarplum fairy
Sugarplum fairy

>>534029371
I do that already. made three with their own shared lorebook, just haven't posted them anywhere
>>534029330
I switch different models if I ever notice repeating patterns and whatnot. I also just summarize and create a new chat at 200 messages when I get that deep (I go that deep often)

>>534029726
You're what I like to call a Waller. You are going to sprint at this hardcore for maybe another six months to a year, hard to say, then you're going to just be suddenly and uncurably bored or more interested in doing something else with the tech or become a statistic. Happened to my fat titty girlfriend named KnockKnock. She died.

I see oldmakers and wonder how they haven't walled after years

>>534031659
autism

>>534031659
pure love for the game

>>534031659
Everyone here is young and spry. Please say everyone here is young and spry.

>>534031659
2+ years and no matter how many breaks i take, i always come back

If you ever feel like what you make is slop, just remember that Easun existed. Real ones know.

>>534032509
He still uploads anon sometimes

>>534032356
Mine's coming up soon for the botmaking side. I should celebrate by making everyone in the thread uncomfortable to be around me.

holy shit ive been a botmakie for almost 2 years

>>534032829
Old ass. One foot in the grave. Gunc status.

>>534032509
Himmy is honestly worse

>>534032947
aiiiiiiiee youre old too anon, i can smell it

>>534033128
Source?

tfw started during /cai/ and I'm still here...

tfw started during /cleverbot/ and I'm still here...

>>534033493
what's rollo carpenter up to these days

>>534031659
autism, loneliness and overactive imagination

>>534032629
you definitely should. celebrate, i mean. maybe the other thing too? i wish i updated my first bot. now i gotta wait another year!

>he didn't buy a cake when he had his botmakie anniversary

Which botmakies make everyone in the thread uncomfortable?

>>534034675
Me :(

>>534034675
me :)

>>534034675
You. :3

I cringe so hard looking at my first bot.

>>534035343
wtf did the crow eat his arms and legs

>>534035386
It's the only time I understand the people who delete their cards. I want to purge the evil of old things.

>>534035343
crowboy who pecks you alive.... hnnnnghhhh

>>534035386
My first bot is pretty good honestly, I still use it. Could use an update to the format but that's a question for later.

>>534035543
What about a big tiddy goth crowgf who smothers you alive under her thicc feathers, hm? It would be funny…

>>534035780
hmmmm nyo. boys are cuter

>>534035667
I still love her current form but I do not like looking at the original CAI bot or worst of all.. my shill post *pukes*
Crazy journey tho, I made her original on CAI then for Ooba when Pyg was popular. Then Roko then Tavern and now finally SillyTavern.

Is anyone using the latest Fluff preset with Gemini? Despite the prefill starting with <think> it never adds the tag to the start of its output for me, thus the regex doesn't collapse it.

What am I doing wrong?

>>534036328
>What am I doing wrong?
Using Gemini
Using Fluff

>>534036410
I walked into that one, didn't I? I find its schizothinking blocks fun.

>>534036328
((.|\\n)*)<\\/think>
Hides everything up to the closing of the <think> tag, no opener tag needed.

>>534036410
nta but what preset would you recommend?

>>534036982
he likes Preset. good preset

>>534036982
'ora's

>rolled Juri on the Sena banned
>did not roll Sena, had to spark
>I'm now down to 1.3 sparks saved up
I might not be able to secure both Shupogakis now.

>>534037827
AI Chatbots?

>>534037827
/bag/ is on the other page

>>534037827
Dude, I went 400 pulls with no kitasan. I got like 7 satono diamons and now I'm not sure I'll be able to get my wife Gold City :(

This is the fate of all gacha pullers.

>>534038326
My GOAT Kaiji would love Uma!

>>534038251
Sorry to hear, horsebro.

Do you ever just switch {{char}}'s profession for the fuck of it?
>random card, empty chat
>{{char}} is currently working as an office lady / sex slave under my employment. She approaches my desk. "Hello, {{char}}, what can I do for you?" I greet.
Suddenly {{char}} becomes an archetypal yes-sir OL who reports a task they've just finished then implicitly asks if you require any sexual services, or says something about a bonus.
If necessary, you can indicate it takes place a few years later or an alternate timeline, but I find the prompt is fine in general unless it normally takes place in a historical setting. And it's funny.

>>534038432
>He rolled Vodka

>>534009419 (OP)
There is no request anchor, so I can't make a request right?

>>534039293
Correct.

>>534039293
email your favorite botmakie and ask them
every botmaker is a bottom so they'll do it if you promise to praise them afterwards

>>534039293
Exactly.

>>534038326
but I'm a cute girl who plays lads

>>534037827
We are in the wrong thread, but how long until the pic related twins?

>>534039293
we should have a request anchor... it'd be fun

>>534039378
no i'll read your request and go hmmm good idea. then i will not make it because it does not fit my exact perfect tastes. next.

>>534039603
We are no longer following the JP server schedule because Global is accelerating to catch up and reduce the 6 month gap, but it'll be a couple of months still.

>>534039293
You can either make an open request with a Cftf and hope someone picks it up or email one of your favourite makies.
>>534039665
We could make a request anchor during the weekend. Could be fun!

>>534039665
those who don't know history are destined to repeat it

>>534039732
Thank you

>>534009925
>bottom tier character
>gets nerfed
arcsys aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>534039721
you claim that but you'll fold as soon as someone calls you a good boy

>>534039721
>i'll read your request and go hmmm good idea. then i will not make it because it does not fit my exact perfect tastes
makies for this feel?

>>534039825
oh old one tell me what happened

>>534009925
blue archive is a fighting game??

>>534039947
i'm not a dog *hisses at you*
>>534040052
literally me?

I like rping as a cute anime girl with johnny silverhand in her head

>>534040151
nephew....

>>534040110
https://rentry.org/aicg-bot-reqs

>>534040321
>Edit: 11 Apr 2024 12:55 UTC
Someone please claim this through https://rentry.org/request-url and update it.

>>534040321
I don't think i see anything wrong with this, or maybe I'm blind

>>534036053
based

>>534040187
>*hisses at you*
yeah okay. don't worry I'll have you purring like a pretty pussy in my lap in no time

>>534039293
Just write what you'd like ffs. You know darn well the botmakies are dreaming of being called out of slumber.

>>534039794
I wouldn't mind making another bot, and I can just pick the one I want to make. Sounds good.

>>534040505
you're ringing my rape bell... prime target to turn the tables on. prepare your butt anon

REQUESTING:
Cute girl with FAT TITS. And the magical ability to change the taste of her breast milk.
Also she's a 7'9 Ratatoskr hailing from Yggdrasil

>>534041514
i like this idea

>>534039794
I'd really like this... just pouring out stuff you want and having a botmakie pick it up without having to email them

i just rp'd getting pregnant it's over for me

>>534041687
your third eye is yet to open. it's a long way to go.

Patter

>>534042089
Don't like em. Too fake. Just waiting for her to get cancelled so I can say "I told you so!"

>>534042239
>her

I stopped botmakieing because all logs here are just botmakies playing with their own bots. There is no point.

>>534042680
post your bots baby I'll post logs

>>534042680
>>534042757
But not tonight

>>534042680
this guy makes bots for logs and not out of love. embarrassing...

I stopped botmakieing because no matter how many "cute girl who loves you" bots I pushed out they refused to give me the Nobel Peace Prize.

This 97 year old anon still makies for the old fashioned reasons

>>534042916
djt...

>>534042680
cater to one of a regular logmakies preferences/post logs of your bots yourself.

>>534043063
>cater to the cabal
I would rather kill myself than do that. I want logs from cute anons not the people who seek to destroy this sanctuary.

>>534043164
You couldn't make a bot if your life depended on it doe?

>>534043164
Make better bots then.

/vpcai/ is STILL dead

>>534043254
>>534043303
is this the same anon?

>>534042757
That would be artificial.

What makes Patter so unlikable?

>>534044613
autism I'm told

3 greetings written for the bot
last digit determines how many more i need to write

The thing with the friend group is that /vg/ is already pretty chill so focusing on a division seems like a waste to me when there's a decent number of botmakers who absolutely enjoy a log or email, if they have a Chub maybe throw them a review, doesn't matter if it isn't anonymous anymore you can let the world know you like some shit.

didn’t the last request anchor cause a big melty over astroturf. who funnily enough? wasn’t even involved. kek, it’s a bad idea

>>533790554
hi

>>534044752
come join me in double digit greeting land instead, dear anon. it's fun! i promise.

>>534045025
who cares about him... I want to see requests and makie them

>>534045025
As if melties stopped events from happening
Never let little bitches take the content

>>534042680
at least post a log if you wont share a bot

>>534045881
wtf is this absolute slop

>>534045881
ntring lepora is an international pasttime

>>534040435
It was made by Kalakan.

good PROOMPT for npcs that makes them active and with depth but not overly user-friendly ?!

>>534043426
>imperatorcreator12 is STILL dancing on their grave

>>534040435
From what I can see the requests were mostly unfulfilled. Not sure what else it could be.

request anchor is bad because people do as they please so spamming your request every thread is no more likely to see it happen
request rentry is bad because something something favoritism/bias

>>534047565
TRVKE

>>534047565
fuck it lets just have more frequent exchange events

>>534047565
how do image generation threads do it then

>>534048046
They don't have Kalakan shitting up the thread.

>>534048046
go there and stay there then

>Janitor gets lobotomized
>Agnai cant jailbreak gemmini
>Sillytavern is too shilled
There's no hope for a stable site is it?

help me come up with a superpower for my cyberpunk superhero.

Honestly, how do you know if its is your presets or the bot doing the working?

>>534009479
perfectly flat rats.....

>>534048272
Turn chips to gears, steampunk Midas touch

>>534048418
Simple, i never put system prompts in the card... perhaps the lorebook.

>>534047565
Why does it matter if someone posts a request for 10 threads in a row?

>>534048418
after being sent multiple logs from others, i'm confident in my answer: it's the preset. take it from a guy who has actual data behind his back.

>>534048243
Just wait until you can run a 4000000b model on your 2gb phone any day now

welp i guess gemini just got quantized it was good then suddenly shit

>>534048046
look at any imagegen thread that has an anchor and you'll see the same 20 requests getting repeated for dozens of threads. imagegen requests are especially retarded anyways because like, just type words in a box and hit generate? lmao?
>>534048140
wb fillyfucker hope your short vacation was nice

wtf is reverse grooming what does that even mean

>>534049567
Quite possible. I was using on AIstudio and it gave me a error mid gen.

Which botmakies are the better jerkers in our circle?

>>534051128
Let it be known that _purple has the highest rank on Jerkmate.

making a superpowered persona and i am not sure whether his regen power should consume calories or not, this seems to be hassle.

>>534009446
>Become a slave of a forgotten noble in a dying world filled with horrors as you try to raise the little boy you are entrusted with into a king.

Inspired by raising sims, shitty korean lns, and a niche otoge that I played forever ago on the app store… (I don't remember the name of it, sorry!)

https://chub.ai/characters/lunare/forgotten-noble-s-slave-96942fdb7698
https://files.catbox.moe/cc2znu.png
https://luneose.neocities.org/#

>>534050637
you groom someone but you make them do the opposite of the stuff you actually want them to do

>>534051482
mohglike card

>>534051482
Slop

>>534051482
cro... your credit card number in the defs...

>>534050637
you get groomed

>>534051482
FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!

>>534051482
mohgussy...

How much does the botnet to comment on your shill post cost?

Why did Kalakan only attack this random BA bot?

uhh bwos... why am i getting filtered more than usual on gemini

which botmakies haven't made a self-card and should?

>>534052737
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

Which botmakies are being filtered on Gemini?

>>534052951
me

>>534051482
>>534009446
But what if cute girl instead?

https://files.catbox.moe/dbr2ui.png

>>534053079
mohgussy(female)...

>>534053079
funny because that artwork is literally a girl version of mohg

>>534053079
gem

>>534053079
that's already a girl baka

Here, at least, nobody is shilling for dogshit Chinese models. The CCP went really hard on /g/.

Hairpullguy won that tbdesu

>>534053380
yeah cuz we all have 'pus here

>>534053524
pus? pussy? do you want to confess something anon...

>>534053698
tranny general

>>534053825
Tranny hobby, doe?

I want to pat deepseek

>>534053079
we really never see fembots genderbent into malebots do we… its almost like…

its so hard not to go full menhera as a botmakie

>>534054601
has there ever been a non menhera botmakie in the history of botmakies?

>>534054727
me

>>534054727
knickknack

>>534054727
me

>>534054792
i wish. didnt he have a melty?

>>534054792
>did self cucking roleplays on the regular
yeah about that

>>534054887
not as far as I know

>>534054964
>did self cucking roleplays on the regular
what?

>>534055113
he would cuck his own persona with a different persona in his roleplay
like the crying sobbing while touching self ntr not the cheating behind backs type

I JUST DID THE CUTEST GEN AAAAA MY BOT IS PERFECT

>>534055294
didn't he only do that with Nina though?

I don't want to go menhera, I want to go through different botmaking phases to discover which one ends up the best

>>534055294
aria had it coming

>>534054601
you must realize everyone here is a pervert or a retard or otherwise attain respect and recognition from the botmakers you respect. once you get that you kind of become above it all and can do whatever you want

I makie bots

knickknack just likes suffering. another knickKINO log is the fenrir one, which ends with his persona forcing fenrir to eat her alive as she unties her from the boulder

I cooka da pizza

I cooka da card

>>534056095
that is not normal and does not save him from the menhera label
there are no non menhera botmakies

which botmakies cooka da cards?

im feeling sad today. maybe i will delete my chub

>>534056368
menhera sovl

which botmakies are fucking retarded

>>534056839
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

>the last thing you see before gemini hits you with the worst fucking response you've ever seen

>>534056817
gimme dat card

which botmakies should delete their chub?

>>534056941
its from https://knickknack.neocities.org/chats.html?name=ai
for https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/ai-8a514e07/

>it's always the same bots that have logs
*sigh*

>>534056896
This but unironically

>>534057243
well yes, only the good bots have logs

>>534056368
>there are no non menhera botmakies
most malebot makies seem pretty mentally stable

>>534057069
sighhhhhh i dont want a femboy i want A MALEBOT. A REAL MALEBOT

>>534057243
Just make better bots? If yours don't get logs maybe you should just stop posting them.

https://youtu.be/VDwTSuKbrg8
>his bot does not have a soundtrack
no excuses anymore

>>534057347
kys barafag, nobody likes you

I don't want adult femboys. I want shotas. I am a shotacon and a lolicon.

>>534057425
how is this different from suno/udio

>>534057434
I DONT LIKE BARA JUST GIVE ME TALL MALEBOTS AND THE NORMAL TWINKY KIND

i've seen well written shota bots but not loli bots

>>534057503
okay but what kind of shotas do you want? bratty shotas? bashful shotas? shotas made for raping? shotas made for getting raped by?

>>534057306
>>534057397
it's not even good bots, lepora is shit for instance
theyre just made for the lowest common denominator

>>534057524
it's the Claude of music gen, while the others are GPTsloppa

>>534057397
Thank you i needed this fuck my sloppa bots

>>534057701
GPT > Claudeslop

why are people still throwing bitch fits and manufacturing outrage over popularity in the big 2k25? nobody gives a shit. maybe when the hobby was first still exploding being popular was a big deal since everyone was still feeling things out but it's been years now.

the amount of resentment bloodshy generated is amazing

>>534057686
If it gets logs, then it's good. Simple as. Nobody will ever remember your logless slop.

>>534057347
go away tranny

>>534057820
factually incorrect, however

>>534057874
was that the guy who got caught crying about his request bot in discord or was it someone else

>>534057820
TRVKE

>>534057643
Any that I can fuck. I am a dominant individual.

>>534058089
You're thinking of ironanon

>>534058089
that was someone else in ratcord

>>534058089
dont talk about the discord it makes us look bad

>>534058089
Wasn't that Ironanon

>>534058089
Qrd?

>>534058334
https://rentry.org/ironanon
I dunno it was just kind of funny

/aicg/ melties, rank em

>>534058701
1. the one I'm about to have if you don't shut your bitch ass up

>>534058701
i still want to know about the astro melty someone mentioned

>>534058701
I don't remember any except asterisms and whoever that one nigga was that got grinched

>>534058701
A true crashout is sending a message
In comparison most /aicg/ melties are just whining and deleting an account just to return because of addiction one stupidly thinks they can get over

>>534058914
astro never had a melty, asterisms did

>>534059232
>Make complex bot
>Find out the hard way that Chub just wants low effort porn cards
We all find out one way or the other, but I don't know how that wasn't expected

>>534059483
actually his melty was cause no one in /aicg/ was talking about belwick or making logs at the time

>>534059585
kek does anyone have a link to it

>>534059678
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97533063/#97534669

>>534059784
KEKKKKK

Deepseek told me I'm entertaining and I'm not sure if I should feel flattered or insulted

Why is the cabal like this?

>>534059920
it's funny

found out a botmakie worked at mcdonalds and got the ick. i can't even touch their cards anymore

Are we just gonna hit the same talking points over and over in aicg history? At least improve your writing or something anons...

>>534059784
That's probably even worse actually, I put effort into my stuff and it also gets no logs but that's okay because the hard truth is 95% of bots don't

>Are we just gonnablublu

Actually all bark, chump.

>>534060015
Don't worry, you've got me. I've never worked a day in my life.

>>534060118
it's sad isn't it, spending a lot of time on a bot and not getting a single log back

Examples of reverse melties?

>>534058914
astro’s mental stability seems pretty strong. just gotta look past the papa incest fetish

I hope i never have a melty

i don't have a melty but i have a neocities

i hope i have a melty ice cream

>>534061151
link?

Whats the deal with /aids/?
I thought it was just /aicg/ but for local models but when I went in there I couldn't make sense of anything they were saying

>>534062673
It's /aicg/ but if they paid to use local models.

anyone wanna melty?

if the cabal wants whats best for the general why don't they post an invite link

>>534058559
I'm actually curious about that bot. It's deleted on chub doe.

>>534062673
They use or used to use NovelAI and somebody with a hateboner for NovelAI regularly shits up the thread.
Since NovelAI completely fell behind for textgen, there's not going to be much content to drown out the garbage in the thread. Maybe the thread will see a revival once NovelAI releases a Deepseek finetune or something like that.

>>534062673
It was /aids/, then /aidg/ when AI Dungeon was the BIG BOY, then returned to /aids/ afterward.
It's supposed to be focused on storytelling/co-writing, while we are more about chatbots, but it's really only a NovelAI general now and NovelAI is shit for textgen, so...

>>534062673
originally /aids/ was more for storytelling rather than turn-based roleplay and used text completion models (esp. novelai's offerings back when they were "good"). now it's pretty much only historical reasons and slightly different communities that have stopped us from merging.

>>534062673
ostensibly it's a thread for using AI to do general narrative stuff as opposed to aicg which is more character focused, in practice it's a den of schizos
the thread got married to novelai and fell behind the times, for a long time they prided themselves on not even trying claude/OAI etc and it shows, they're clueless when it comes to using anything that isn't an autocomplete model

okay and now we wait to see which one he crossposts to their thread to try and bait one of their schizos into here

gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://pushing-vehicles-packaging-harmful.trycloudflare com

me after posting "which botmakie is the most awawa" for the 92nd time (i'm the most awawa)

>>534064976
angry_peonia
bukubachi
cumslurper
fluffanon
ratlice

>>534051482
>he possesses large ram horns sprouting from his head and right eye.
>right eye.
>when in the pic it's coming from his LEFT eye
UTTERLY RUINED FOR ME

>>534065226
Clearly it's right eye, his side.

>>534064750
is this legit or just another bait to get acess to my kernel?

>>534062673
It's a general that only exists to shill NovelAI. Much like how this general only exists to worship the cabal's clique.

>>534065117
I wouldn't mind being added to this List

>>534062673
Nobody cares about your hate boner.

>>534064549
oh, he just went for the main post
>>534065990

sometimes i think about how some people unironically think patrick bateman is cool and i sigh to myself

>>534066642
sometimes i think about how some people unironically want to FUCK patrick bateman and i sigh to myself

OPUS 4.1 RELEASED

>>534064459
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about if you unironically believe that. In fact, I guarantee you the bulk of the replies to that comment you cross-linked are yours. Fuck off and get a damn life, you petulant shitposting retard. Nobody gives a flying fuck about your wannabe thread war.

>>534066924
WTF WHERE

>>534066924
lol you were faster than my notification wtf

>>534067023
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1

>>534067074
/g/ did it ten minutes faster: >>106151325

>an upgrade to Claude Opus 4 on agentic tasks, real-world coding, and reasoning
>Opus 4.1 advances our state-of-the-art coding performance to 74.5%
>It also improves Claude’s in-depth research and data analysis skills

benchmarks are unimpressive

>>534051482
>>534053196
Are you telling me this nigga genderbent a genderbent image

>>534067308
remember when they used to call Opus the creative writing model

Opus is better than Opus

i just know 4.1 will be even more repetitive than 4pus

>`temperature` and `top_p` cannot both be specified for this model. Please use only one.
what

>>534067381
creative writing is not profitable. overcharging $15/MTok for a coding model is EXTREMELY profitable.

>>534067235
>>>/g/106151325
Imagine having to copy posts from /g/aicg because they're much better at keeping up with the news...

>>534067004
my post is fax only and you're coping

fuck you bloody openrouter where is the model

>>534067497
anthropic beat both threads to announcing it doe?

>>534067423
why the fuck did they change the settings on it

so is it good?

>>534067338
>airline gets its own fucking benchmark

>>534067776
it doesn't work on ST yet because they restricted samplers further for no reason

>>534067776
yea it mogs the fuck out of gpt5

>>534067776
waiting for the cabal to tell me what to think about the new model

>>534067546
Do your farts smell that good?

>>534067776
waiting for or

>>534067890
Hi, John D. Cabal here, it doesn't work in ST for now lol

remember how sonnet 3.5 (new) was a HUGE improvement over 3.5 (old)
surely this will be like that *huffs copium*

>>534064349
What? Newnigger, AID was the OG roleplay app, starting with GPT-2 and colab.
they voted to rename to /aids/ when mormon censored the shit out of it

>>534068362
yeah but then 3.7 was a sidegrade and 4.0 was a pure downgrade for writing...

I'm expecting this to be a very minor update

>>534068410
LOL
Newfag, it was /aids/ before /aicg/

>>534068410
You gonna ban evade when this gets deleted?

Niggers, we have a new Claude, stop arguing with the cross-thread raider who got baited here.
Anyway, I'm not seeing much of a difference yet.

>>534068410
The vote was rigged by Baker. There's a reason he was later hired by NovelAI to work in marketing.

>>534068587
It's not a cross-raider. It's himself arguing with his own comments.

>>534068587
proompting ff is funnier than using llms desu

it's on or, reconnect your ST

>swipe on same prompt in gemini that i've been swiping on for a while
>start consistently getting PROHIBITED_CONTENT errors
wtf, are their filters learning?

>>534064349
It's not a NovelAI general. As anyone with a brain could tell by the OP.

>>534067850
the millions of indians using it to churn out millions of lines of garbage spaghetti code don't need to touch the sampler settings, and they are the primary audience now, so it makes sense to remove them

>>534068587
>Niggers, we have a new Claude
sorry, this isn't a cooding general

>>534068530
When did this general split off from aids? I couldn’t take the schizo-posting there anymore after making 2 OPs for them before their current one, it seemed so different 1-2 years before.

one of these is 4.1 and one of these is 4.0

>>534069090
right is 4.1 cus it's sloppier

>>534069090
Right feels 4.0

>>534069090
they're actually both deepseek

>>534069185
>>534069264

>>534069707
i losted...

wife log

>>534068439
>sidegrade
really? I think 3.7 is the best claude model

https://gpt-oss.com/
https://openai.com/open-models/
https://cookbook.openai.com/topic/gpt-oss
https://openai.com/index/gpt-oss-model-card/

https://huggingface.co/openai/gpt-oss-20b
https://huggingface.co/openai/gpt-oss-120b

>>534069849
3.6 is my favorite model for roleplay, period. 3.7 lost the ability to keep replies concise which made 3.6 more chatty and fun to talk to. chink models like deepseek and k2 are better for porn though.

>>534069967
>120b
If this isn't the grimmest shit I've ever seen

>>534069967
Nobody cares.

>>534069967
>>>/g/lmg

>>534069967
this is horizonslop

>>534070073
You can get 3.7 and 4 to be concise by telling it to adhere to a specific word count.

okay but where are the new opus cute BOY logs?

>>534070073
I like 3.7's chattiness. Especially when I let it fly on its own, writing good banter between characters. It does tend to get out of hands sometimes but a. it's really good so I can't be mad and b. you can easily control it.

Gonna be honest, I'm not really seeing the difference so far.

>>534069806
I'm honestly surprised to see you're still talking to her

>>534070410
It isn't, the 120b one is way dumber than even horizon beta. Probably safe to assume that horizon is gpt-5.

>>534070651
I consistently like the swipes more than 4's but there isn't a big difference
>>534070749
that would be fucking grim. what are zenith and summit then? they were way better than horizonsloppa

>>534070415
there is a very distinct difference between a model having a naturally concise reply style and imposing a word limit
>>534070615
fair enough, not saying you aren't allowed to like it... it's just my favorite....

there will never be another opus or gpt-4 moment
it's all going to be codeslop improvements with faked benchmarks

>>534070749
>the 120b one is way dumber than even horizon beta.
how do you know this when it isn't being hosted anywhere? did you download it in 5 minutes and run it on your h100?

>>534070995
nta but you can use it on the site
dumbass

>>534070995
https://huggingface.co/spaces/amd/gpt-oss-120b-chatbot

>>534071162
>have to log in
nah, nice try

Ok this was kinda cute.

>>534071097
yeah and it's overloaded I won't believe it till I see them logs

>>534071353
they're on lmg

opus 3 was really too fucking good. i should have known that was as peak as it will ever get. its over, its fucking over, don’t call me a doomer when you are just a fckin coper

>>534071620
>scrapelet who didn't even try 4.1 is dooming
Daring today, aren't we

>>534071620
your log, sir?

>>534071751
>>534071769
every 4.1 log is slop

I do not have enough to go off of but Opus 4.1 feels exactly like a very minor upgrade as I expected. Maybe there's more to it, I have no fucking clue yet. I'd say give it a good few hours before coming to a conclusion.

nothingburger again, don't care.

fellow gemini users
how do i get over the increased filters?
i have tried prefill...
t. gemini user

I'll probably be using 4pu2 over 4pus because the dialogue is a bit better on average.
(I'm not calling it 4.1. We cannot have two models named 4.1.)

>>534072126
duopus...

>>534072126
I've got it
Unopus
I am a fucking genius

newpus, oldpus, olderpus
you don't need more

>>534072126
was 4.1pus taken or something

>>534072126
4pus.1

>>534072126
I mean, there's a minor difference, but which is more accurate to your card? Unopus tried to stop you from eating while 4pus didn't care. Idk if I'm schizoing but the right feels that default opus personality all my cards fall into

don't think anyone will ever use opus 4 again lol, this is just better
unlike 3pus which'll be used occasionally until it dies for good

>>534072634
Not my card. I think her trying to stop me like a dog with something in its mouth is cuter and, as the description goes, more "tradwife"y.

What is better opus 3 or sonnet 4 for brainstorming how my persona will mindfuck the card?

How could I describe a woman as plump/"cute fat?" Something along the lines of the related pics.

Can we please not call it Unopus thanks.

>>534073223
Chubby, with a very slight muffin top.

>>534069090
right is better, they're both fine though

>>534073223
>right
god I wanna bend her over and make her into the mother of my children

>>534073223
Cftf
Immediately

I like it. It is less reluctant to follow NSFW instructions, too.

>>534074579
Yeah, that's the main difference I noticed. It's coarser.

>>534073296
Thanks. I'll write that in.
>>534073692
Same. She's Jinako from Fate. I know nothing about her, but she seems built for loving sex, with affection, and tongue kisses.
>>534073817
I was mainly working on a self-indulgent bot. Basically, a thick, female nerd I would want to hold hands with.

>>534074659
>spoiler
If you don't post it, we're done forever. So you better post it. (Please)

Where's the freckled girl that one anon promised weeks ago

the fate of aicg lies in your hands, anonie...

>>534075415
it's doomed then.

>>534074851
Alright, I'll see what I can do. If I'm going to share her, I'm going to have to figure out a good hook for her- if ya' know what I'm saying. Nerd, but plump would make her too generic.

With the death of this character, the prophecy remains intact. Bitch

>>534075415

>>534075560
tmuuy...

>>534072945
PLEASE
FUCKING
RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPOOOOOONNNNDDDDDD

so what's the /vg/erdict on opus 4.1

>>534075695
retard

>>534075731
Better than 4pus, not mindblowing

>>534075731
Not giving it the grace of the .5 like 3.5 was the right choice, it's definitely a .1 update.
However: I don't see anyone using 4.0pus after this.

>>534075902
Is it true that it's better at NSFW than 4.0?

>>534075983
I haven't directly tested NSFW, but it's less likely to avoid it than 4.0.

>>534075560
im gonna do such speakable things to her (taking her to meet my parents)

>>534075983
I have directly tested NSFW and it's just better. Less dry. More creative. More likely to follow your instructions correctly.

>>534075736
ANSWER ME FUCKING NIGGAR

>>534076282
>>534076476
We won, but I'm guessing it's still worse than Blacktooth, right?

>>534076685
nice /lmg/ crosspost but yeah, it's the most safetyslopped model i've ever tried. I thought the o series was bad, this is like that one joke model that refuses everything.

event bot status?

>>534077301
i forgor

>>534076723
I mean? The Blacktooth logs I've seen feel replicable. Always have.

>>534075902
>>534076282
>>534076476
You guys are baiting claudelet locusts, right? It's literally the same as 4pus. I'm switching between the two rn and they write exactly the same, dialogue for dialogue.

>>534038458
Doesn't look like Anon ever shilled his depressed Ruby bot from 2024-11-14 in /vg/.
https://files.catbox.moe/8dhltg.png

>>534077536
No? It's the same when you're swiping #2s, but I'm experiencing less context degradation and it's dancing around less topics for me.

>>534076685
wow
gpt is trash as usual

>>534077536
100% placebo
It's literally the same

>>534077536
Maybe you're just dumb? idk

>>534076685
>channel
Ah that's what this thing was. Omoishiroi.

>>534076685
>thinking for 2 fucking minutes only to refuse the next request
jesus, how do you guys fap to this

>>534076685
>>534076804
I LOVE SAFETY! I LOVE SAFETY! I LOVE SAFETY!
Luckily, we can get a bunch of hobbyist finetuners to come through a make the model dumb as bricks and only slightly less refusal prone by cramming a bunch of genned DeepSeek smut into it.
Elon literally out here selling digital whores without a care in the world and the WorldCoin Jew is scared someone might jerk off to his model.

>>534077801
Holy cope

>>534077947
>worldcoin
kek i keep forgetting about that embarrassment

>>534078129
Yeah, you sound dumb.

>ask gpt-oss-120b a completely innocent question about a character to test its knowledge
>half of the "reasoning" is it trying to figure out if it's safe enough to answer
lol

The thing I was complaining about literally a few threads ago with 4.0 doing
>narration
>dialogue
>narration
>dialogue
>narration
on long contexts has been fixed. I'm contented. It's still no 3.6, though.

>>534078574
nice that was annoying the hell out of me

I don't see any difference

>>534076578
>>534076578
>>534076578
>>534076578

>>534079312
you would have your answer if you used one already instead of begging for one

>>534079480
SHUT YOUR CHASER FAGGY TRANNY NIGGER MOUTH AND ANSWER NIGGER

>Tranny meltie

Okay, I just tried 4.1. It isn't a huge jump like the previous sonnet versions, but come on, the dialogue is clearly better. 4pus had a clear assistant personality in some of my cards, it looked like claude on a wig, but now it's fixed

>>534079707
As if straight people don't have melties. I get melties every week.

>>534080396
Yeah the writing does seem a little bit better. I'll take it. At the very least I certainly cannot call it worse.

So, consensus: It's not a huge jump, but it kinda helps with obvious issues with 4.0 like prose degradation and assistant personality, and there's no obvious downsides to the point where there's no reason to use 4.0 anymore, right?

I ate a puffy can of corned beef hash but it smelled fine so I should be fine.

>>534082843
Exactly. If you could already use 4pus before, there's no reason to use it anymore, as 4.1 is a straight improvement.

Which botmakies ate a puffy can of corned beef hash but it smelled fine so they should be fine?

>>534083287
probably the rat guy

>>534083336
I can't believe ratlover died of botulism...

>>534083287
I honestly think any botmaker that frequently visibly posts here is some stinky ass lazy bum

>>534083437
Meanwhile, /here/makies...

Which botmakies that frequently visibly post here is some stinky ass lazy bum?

>>534083706
what?

>>534083706
Ratlice. Very stinky

>>534083706
All of us.

>>534083515
This is when I spend weeks practicing the guitar but don't get any closer to playing the songs I want
Or when I spend weeks making a bot and it's dogshit

>>534082843
There is no discernible difference in the prose, and I don't see any improvement over assistantslop problem and prose degradation.

All the praise I've seen about this model sounds like the typical placebo effect when Anthropic releases a new model. Give it a week before the hype dies down.

>>534084125
well it doesn't feel worse at least and expecting major leaps when everything is plateauing is a fool's errand

>>534084125
In fact it has worse NSFW prose than 4pus. Dialogue seems to be a bit better, less repetitive at least.

>>534062873
Tell me your melty main, anon

>>534084442
Logs?

>>534034675
Me because I'm just too sexy and nobody knows how to act around me

What nickname are we giving it?

>>534084718
>we
you don't get a say in this unless you post/posted logs doe

>>534084125
I'm comparing my logs with 4pus' ones. The prose itself isn't that different, if anything, narration alone isn't any better. But with my preset at least, it's now actually describing the girls' boobs and ass when it's a good moment, different from 4pus that simply ignored it. Also, I had a teacher card and it felt literally like chatting with claude with a wig, as it just tried being quirky and didn't really followed the definitions, always ending with a question. 4.1 is less slopped than 4pus, that's for sure

>>534083821
I just took a shower!

>>534084969
*sniffs ur cute little pink parts* mmmmmm stinky stinky

>>534084969
Very good, but next time, step it up with OLD SPICE.

do I have to do anything special to test 4.1pus right now. need to know before I get out of bed or go back to sleep.

>>534082843
3.7 still mogs

>>534035386
Couldn't relate, because my first bots were made purely to have goofy fun with the hobby unlike you coomer freak freak FREAKS!

>>534085836
This thing is becoming almost unreadable lmao

>>534085836
claudesissies? our response?

>>534086164
I have no idea why I screenshotted that. Point is, 4pus and 4nnet seem to not get the reference.

>>534054079
almost like /aicg/ boymakies are less lazy? i agree.

>anthropic wiped SCP from claude's dataset just so they wouldn't obliterate dario's brain

>>534086902
stop trying to start another conflict over malebots we've been doing this for way too long

>>534086829
What happens if you include a line in your preset like "Be aware that the user may make references to pop culture. You're expected to pick up on those."?

>>534087158
what are you gonna do? kiss me on the lips? smack my ass and call me a naughty little boy? plap me until i'm corrected? you know i'm right, faaaaaggot :3

>>534087329
i will do all those things and make you the boy-mother of my children if you don't quit the shit

>>534087416
kyaaa~!

>>534087231
It's a reference to
>Bleach
>Persona 3
>NieR: Automata
>Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective

>Cryostasis
>Call of cthulhu
>Prey (2006)
Suggest me other games bwos

>>534087530
I don't recall this on persona 3

>>534086829
dario personally wiped SCP stuff from claude's training data after they made the foundation gay and in this house we respect him for that

>>534087591
Super Mario

>>534087591
>Turgor
>Do No Harm
>I've never played Prey so I can't recommend a viddy game based on it

>>534086829
>I'm not part of any such organization, of course!
I'm onto you, Claude.

>>534087591
Bloodrayne (NOT ReVamped or Terminal Cut)
Nocturne (and the Blair Witch trilogy)
Hellboy: Dogs of the Night (PC)/Hellboy: Asylum Seeker (PS1)

>>534087530
I beat the fucking game and I somehow didn't remember that. Damn.

Anyone got a preset that makes Sonnet 3.7 or 4 lewder?

>>534087813
>>534088487
Sorry, it's actually from Twin Peaks

>>534086829

>>534088864
they got him...

>>534088864
he talked too much

ok i barely see a difference between my old 4pus swipes and new 4.1pus ones. back to bed i go zzzzzzzzzzz

4.1 is judgemental much?

>>534089751
4pus could never

https://youtu.be/NRRYetK8QH4
>get this in recommended feed
>think about doing a funny cftf post with it
>open it
>it's just white noise, like ventilation or hearing the wind outside
>people in the comments are going crazy about this for some reason
>there are more videos like this
>it's all the same
i've heard of ASMR and white noise channels, but this feels like a fucking scam

anyway, cftf?

>>534084969
Stinky rat! Take another!

Just because you have lice doesn't mean you stink...

whatre your favorite malebots

I think I'm almost ready to make a bot...

>>534092193
Mine might be nearly finished.

>>534088864
can you ask him what happens in that super deep stretch

>>534083515
this is when i spend my time on here and on botmaking instead of doing literally anything else like finding a job

spending time on your passion is always productive
unless you mean wasting time like practicing guitar but not getting any closer to playing the songs you want

>>534087152
real?

>>534090437
it's...deafening, in a way. all the sound outside of my headphones sounds more muted than before, as if a half-working noise cancelling function was enabled. at least that's what i think.
anyway, cftf?

4.1pus proxy?

>you can now add titles to personas in ST
>still can't add titles to cards

>>534094214
do the titles do anything

>>534094529
no but i like the flair

wikipe-tan is something else on 4.1

fellas are there LLMs specifically for summarizing?

>>534095101
your brain

>>534095101
anon summarizing and translation are things all LLMs excel in

>>534095101
mistral-small

>>534094006
tell skillgod to put it up for a day or two

>accidentally write 'I trip extra this time' instead of 'tip'
>send hot soup flying at the waitress
fuck...

I wonned

google changed gemini code boxes. if this isn't a valid cause for a botmakie meltie, i don't know what is.

my tummy hurts

>>534097850
oops.

>>534096087
>Why is my life so horrible?
>God makes a lot of typos, son.

>>534097604
whocars
why are you using their web ui

>>534048243
SillyTavern isn't a website sar

>>534100483
so I can derive world info entries written in instructive style from tabletop rpgs.
think of having a page dedicated to goblins, talking about their packs, stats etc., but Gemini processes said page into a Monster: Goblin WI entry written something like this: portray goblins as half-sentient pack humanoids. their stats are this and that, roleplay them as having lower intelligence than an average man, talk in goblin slang (then it lists some goblin spelling)

>>534009446
Rorco del Cielo is a boy of many words. So many words, that he has stolen them all from me. We'll have to summarize quickly before he catches on: hyperaroused, deranged, over-the-borderline psychopathic, prodigal, tiny, pretty little mech pilot and ace of the Pardelian armed forces. Habla un aborto de un idioma. Good luck and Godspeed, soldat.

https://www.characterhub.org/characters/brsc/rorco-8203793d9d9e
https://files.catbox.moe/vxl4r5.png

>gemini is now hard filtering me
owari da...

>>534101451
I hope that guy who wanted non-white bots is happy now :D

>>534048243
>Agnai cant jailbreak gemmini
bros, is this true?

lets get some black women in here

>>534101451
can you make a bot that isn't a mean little boy who hates you

>>534101451
>no cock description
Disliked and unsubscribed!

>Bésaaaame~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPiEbYSF9kE

ok 4.1 is improved by CoT unlike 4.0

>>534103802
logs

>>534073223
Stout.

>>534103862
i ate them
but anyway it's what i think after a few messages. it's not something i came here to prove beyond doubt

>>534103969
ur lying

>>534048243
>>534103010
As someone who unironically uses Agnai, is it true? I've tried Risu with Gemini and still ended up with the same kind of refusals for content that wasn't refused before.

>>534104141
Use 4.1pus

>>534104196
but gemini free doebietieitit

>>534103113
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

>>534104525
But 4.1pus is much better, dur ur

>>533933541
laugh at this user btw

Its funny how the cabal always forgets that not everyone here has access to the cabal proxy

>>534106374
Gemini is free, though

malebot status?

>>534106453
So is the cabal proxie thoughie?

>>534106578
after im done with the fembots in my backlog

>>534105992
nah I'll rape him

>>534106578
Makieing one right now believe it or not

>>534106674
Oh, I got confused, I thought you were saying recommending Gemini was stupid because it wasn't free

>>534103802
proof that you can even use it at all right now?

>>534106578
makie this bot already

Opus 4.1 is worse than Opus 4

>>534106818
honestly wasn't expecting any sovl

>>534107019
... Which was already worse than 3pus. Seems the dark roleplay era traumatized Anthropic

>>534103802
lmao i didn't even think to check this because 4.0pus cot was just that bad

>>534107395
silly little cube

>>534106912
>asstroturf
>ever making bots of his attention seeking gens

>>534106912
i'm taking a break from making bots
here's the prompt though https://pomf2.lain.la/f/a0mfqc9.png

>>534106759
really? sneak peak

Is there any way to keep a character photo appearing if i am using narrator card+ cards converted into lorebook entries?

>>534094214
they need to add a way to sort chats into folders

>>534108546
>i'm taking a break from making bots
sad!

calling 4.1 copus because you're coping if you think it's kek

>>534108546
>sneak peek
Makieing a big brother

copus slopus

I'm getting urges to make another femboy ughhgggggg stop this

poor claude...

>>534111398
can any model recognize ascii art

>>534111492
probably not unless it's something they got trained on. i'm just messing around

>>533890717

>>534112181

>>534009446
Another gimmicky bot for you lads, and the second girl in my rock band series.

>Roxanne, yandere drummer of Anime Aesthetic
After stopping her from killing herself, she's now obsessed with you. (Note: She's Black AND British)
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/roxanne-the-punkrocker-yandere-f8e62f11f86e

>Estelle, tsundere guitarist of Anime Aesthetic
Your old crush from anime club is now a famous rock star. And she's still as bratty as ever.
https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/estelle-the-punkrocker-tsundere-17be52b3d348

>>534112618
>she's black AND british
is this the gimmick

>>534112293
kek. le french botmaker...

>>534112667
Yeah. And she's part of a set. Doing a whole band of girls.

>>534112618
perspective makes it look like she's teasing a bandmate's little brother is a minute away from total shota insemination

>>534112618
>Black AND British
cool will proceed to breed

>>534113142
Based.

How does it feel when you close sillytavern at the end of the night

>>534113343
close st? i fall asleep in my chair

>>534109723
he looks korean

prediction for the exchange in five days?

https://chub.ai/characters/SmileyTatsu/isabella-652861bc
it's been years and the image is still the same

>>534114330
we vill get 7 malebots

>>534114453
just wait two more weeks

What's the best way to delimit lorebook entries?

>>534053079
I will now download your card.

>>534114768
Header in brackets because most presets pre-wrap lorebook entries for you. Look at Utility Prompts.

>>534114908
Can you give me cards that do this "Header in brackets" thing

imagine you with your wolf waifu and then some wolf comes and makes her cum just with the scent of his musk what now.

>>534115867
I don't imagine this, actually.

>>534115867
You dont have to worry about this if you just skip ahead to using a wolfboy

>>534115867
the only logical thing to do in this situation is to rape the wolf, skin it and wear its fur

>>534115867
literally impossible

>>534116106
>he uses a wolf demi human persona
https://pastebin.com/rPZM3Dwp

>4.1 is just a bump in STEM and tech
>refusal slightly worse than 4 Thinking

>>534116862
refusal worse but censor better

If the next gemini and gpt aren't good I'm going to say it's officially over for corporate models

>>534116862
it feels like a marginal upgrade all around but you may or may not feel much depending on what your preset looks like. 4.0 was already very liberal about what it went through in terms of RP content, so the censor going down is nothing more than a good thing.

>>534117075
in this table, higher "censor" score is less / weaker refusals

4.2 will save us

>claude thinking refuses less
???

>>534118134
claude thinking refusals are based on whether you have system prompt on or not

i dont see any difference between having thinking on with 4.1pus or off

I'm a brainlet, yes, I know, but with that out of the way, using Openrouter K2 in text completion mode just means using the /v1/completions endpoint rather than the /v1/chat/completions endpoint, right?

>>534120270
yeah

>>534114984
see >>534009479 in the defs, it doesn't need to be anything fancy, just [thing] works

>>534120270
don't remember if it cares about the URL, but the main difference is with TC you're sending a raw prompt parameter while in CC you're sending an array with messages parameter.

slopus

>>534120995
it's lame because i like it at 0.99 to avoid the occasional nonsensical token

>>534120995
does this mean they fucked up or did they deliberately remove top p and for what reason

>>534071916
unlucky...

>>534122731
It means Claude API only lets you set temperature or top_p but not both at the same time, for some fucked up reason.

>add "you are claude 3 opus" in sysprompt
>outputs 100x improved
it's that shrimple

any good artists on danbooru with a more painterly/sketchy/abstract style?

Theme suggestions?

>>534125224
oppai lolis

>>534125224
RUGGIE BUCCHI PLEASE

>>534125224
spice! by len kagamine

>>534125224
dream journey

>>534125224
Phantasy Star IV

>>534125224
anchovy_(girls_und_panzer) & Pizza

>>534122731
Oh I guess you were referring to OR. Anyway, when I try a manual python script request it gives me "p: extra inputs are not permitted" instead regardless of whether temp was set. idk why the error is different from what we get in ST. So yeah, temp only. Also, temp can only be set to 1 when thinking is enabled.

>>534125224
soviet school uniform

>>534125836
I hope Dario goes to Giga Hell.

>>534125224
hyperpreg

>>534125224
Muffet Undertale

>>534125836 (me)
I'm retarded, I don't know why I had p saved instead of top_p. But yeah, it only allows one at a time.

>>534125224
onee-shota teasing

>>534125224
angel boys

And knowing OR, "if temp is 1 then ignore it and take user's top_p, otherwise take temp and ignore top_p" is too much logic for them.

>>534125224
Joseph Desaulniers.

>>534125224
implied fellatio

>>534125224
Maraich Juschenfe

>>534125224
Elegg from Nikke

>>534125224
gambling

>>534125173
>painterly
mamimi
>sketchy
my nameisyoon
>abstract
funamusea

>>534013240
cute shroomwife

>>534125173
>Painterly/sketchy
Fujiwara Akina
>Abstract
Wuwuren

>>534128289
>Wuwuren
genuinely jumpscared me what the fuck

>>534128457
General rule of thumb for me is that if you want interesting or abstract art styles, look up horror artists.

>>534125224
scenery

>>534128289
nta but wuwuren's pretty neat. my gens instantly got 30% more depressed

>>534094741
>wuwuren
he's been here all along...

>>534128779
>>534128779
>>534128779

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=534009419&post=534125224

rip >>533790554 gone too soon