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Previous:>>534004584

Be a good person here too

What would happen if evolve was changed from turn 4 to turn 5.

>>534086654 (OP)
What happened?

>>534100672
Amateur bakers
>>534086605

odds I main forest
evens I main haven
zero I main dragon

CHAPPY IS PLAYING SWORD ITS FUCKING OVER
CHAPPY IS PLAYING SWORD ITS FUCKING OVER
CHAPPY IS PLAYING SWORD ITS FUCKING OVER
CHAPPY IS PLAYING SWORD ITS FUCKING OVER

>maxed out the battle pass
>considering buying it
>do napkin math
>best case scenario would be for me to buy 1000 crystals, which would be enough to precisely cover the cost of a few battle passes once BP rebates are taken into account
>crystal pack provides 990 crystals
KMR deserves every single review bomb.

I kind of want to start playing rune

>>534136559
follow your heart bro. if you think it'll be fun then go for it

Puppet is a complete dogshit deck.
The best play this piece of shit has is coin fighter.

>>534136432
I plan on buying the special deckboost bundle once every couple of expansions and using the crystals solely on battle passes (unless they start adding collabs)

puppets are fucking garbage

has anyone tried the midrange abyss deck with the 1pp girl + exella and no ginyuzu? how is it into the meta decks?
aggro can be a bit frustrating to play sometimes so i was thinking of crafting charons for it

Norman playing golems just shits all over dragon huh

>play rune
>BRICK
>BRICK
>BRRIIICCKKK
Holy shit, this deck is fucking trash

who are we watching

>>534138312
Considering Dragon has a hard time clearing wards AND closing out the game on the same turn unless they've hit Fennie? Yeah.

>>534138148
tried something like that but in my opinion if you're good at using cerb you don't play 1 drops. Skeletons will reanimate 1 but won't override your coco and mimi, that's why the deck feels so good to play. Exella is good though
you don't have to play ginyu but be prepared to esc concede when they drop amelia lum mage, you're pretty much on the aggro side of the things at that point

>>534138535
>1 pp draw 2 deal 2

>>534138312
I think it's kind of outrageous that one of Norman's effects is fucking Ancestral Recall, and that they've tuned his other effects up to the point where it is almost never used.

Thoughts about -1 orthus +1 zombieman?

>>534140243
The class has too much draw, he doesn't need that option. Norman is basically heal man or ward barrier golem man. Dirt should be separated from spellboost if Norman's draw is to be used.

>>534140243
once I played against dirt, they were out of cards, and then they had 6 cards immediately

>Best early, mid and late game
>Best finisher in the game with a reach of 12 and board clear on a single card
>Every card fills their board
>Demands a board clear every turn otherwise you are in lethal range immediately
Why the fuck is this all available in a single craft? What is supposed to be swords downside?
Rune at least requires some sort of investment before they do their dshit shenanigans and they won't just immediately win the game if you don't answer their board

>>534140243
Because value in this game is irrelevant, everyone dies with their hands full.

Swordbros, i'm tempted to buy BP for Silvarius, how does he compare to Albert and Marie as a leader?

>>534140852
>won't just immediately win the game if you don't answer their board
A full sevo kuon board is literally lethal next turn from 15 hp if it's completely unanswered
Also if the game goes super late basically only sword and abyss can kill the 10/10 aura

>>534141170
ugliest of the 3 imo
if you like it though, use it

>>534141170
He's cool but his story sucks

>>534141012
never thought about this but its true, only really ran into topdeck wars in take2

>>534140852
You forgot a few things:
>Rush. Rush fucking EVERYWHERE. Rarely need to use evo points as part of your power plays
>extremely consistent curves since many of your cards have enhance effects that make them highly competitive at both a low point and high point on the curve.
>Yurius also deserves being mentioned since he just fucking wins some matches
>Gildaria extra sevo points
Their "weakness" is that nobody plays their healing options, so any damage that you inflict is probably going to stick. Not like most decks can afford to swing face much when swordbabs throw down 10/10 worth of stats on turn 4 and then keep spamming full must clear boards from that point onwards.

I want to craft but the new expansion is just at the later date of this month...
Help me out of this hoarder mentality

>>534141012
This is the major problem of this game.
Every card simply has WAYYY too much value, a single card is what you typically only need to sway the entire outcome of a match.

Its so fucking stupid and awfully designed.

>>534141773
you also accumulate vials fairly quickly, so when you want to craft cards for the new set you will have many more vials by then

>>534141790
That's what I've been saying.
It's like the guilty gear of TCGs.

>>534140531
No idea abyssbro.

>>534141773
Don't do it. At least wait until we know what legends are inside the next free sample deck

>>534141941
I feel like no one has actually an idea about midrange lists at all especially looking at these lists running the ghost girl and exella that play like a slower aggro and have no fucking means to properly answer Amalia and also turns Ward Haven from favored into bad matchup, and still autolose to roach and rune

>>534141276
>only sword or abyss
Puppet can too, I know
>portal
But they can kill the 10/10 shikigami, then dies to the next 10/10 shikigami.

I feel like Abyss is going to surpass Sword in the next pack

>>534142248
Mukan is sick when you're running so many zombies already

>>534141790
By design. Tanakasan needs to finish the match during his morning commute.

>>534141790
If cards only linearly increase in strength with cost you end up like mtg where every deck from standard to cummander has a curve from 0-3 except for some archetypes like beans and reanimator that also aren't hard casting the big cards

>>534142672
>spend your life wageslaving with overtime so you can whale on your favorite gacha TCG that makes the 10 minute commute slightly better
Is this the Japanese way?

>>534142591
They probably will. Assuming the Valnareik and some new neutral leggo are competitive and have relatively low PP costs, then wallet abyss will probably break 30 leggos and start dominating the meta.

>>534142591
As it should be. Shadowcraft and bloodcraft are always stronger than sword in SV1, why should Abysscraft stay weak in SV2?

>>534142672
>>534142691
Its bad design.
You go from nothing to then full on 1shots after a certain turn, its fucking stupid.

There is no strategy, there is no possibly leaving your opponents card alive to set yourself up better next turn, there is no room for any of that because your opponent can just burst you the fuck down in an instant.

Too many of these 1 card do it all, draw a card and that card can populate your whole board, heal you, draw cards for you wipe your opponents board and then do dmg to their face.

Cards have too much value, and cards like Norman and Sylvia where they gives you options on what to pick is COMPLETELY stupid.
These are cards that will ALWAYS produce value because they do it all, its fucking dumb.

I almost beat sword before he skillfully play Gildaria

>>534143034
I agree. I also think that we have way too much damage potential tied up in evo points. It's 10 points of damage between the evo points and sevo points. We can't really afford to let anything live lest we eat shit tons of evo damage to the face.

See? You guys should play yugioh instead in the first place. Why would you willingly choose the inferior option then complains about it later?

>>534140531
imo no you'll be way too top heavy, the 1 of is him because he rounds out your curve but if you draw 2 or 3 he's not really doing that
you have to cut rage
>2 mana
>a card
>2 hp
for a deal 3 is insane

>play roach
>bricks just as often as spellboost
>has a similarly bad matchup to aggro apiss
>has a worse matchup vs sword
>as a bonus insult to injury, autodies to the two ward havens still playing this xpack
What is even the point of this exercise in masochism?

>>534143567
tempo is worse

>dragontard gets three fennies
>still win the endgame with control abyss by deleting everything until he ran out of drawn cards

>>534143567
you love elf and want to fuck them

>>534143034
Anon this is by design since SV1, the are features, not bugs.

Yes this game fucking suck and as soon the money tournaments are over I am out.

>he drafted storm haven

>>534143176
Yeah, game just feels so fucking bad.
And then there is the obvious class imbalances ontop of it all.

Game would be so much better if there was simply a way to interrupt your opponents plays, it needs trap cards.

>>534143310
Yugioh is unironically a better designed game, full on.
But I prefer the earliest stages of Yugioh, back when putting shit in defense mode was common place and where special summoning was actually special and not the fucking norm.

>>534143567
Just wait elfsis, we'll get good control and take two metas eventually...

>>534144076
>Yugioh is unironically a better designed game, full on.
Yeah I love 0 turns formats. I either combo and win or you stop it and we go g2.

The only thing yu gi oh has going is the creativity in deckbuilding where people need to combine certain archetypes for engine and others for payoff or defense in a deck that doesnt brick. Its a beauty really, if only the game wasnt fucking ass.

tempo forest needs a good turn 3 play

>>534140531
Zombieman is ass.

>>534144343
your 3pp 3/3 rush?

>>534143808
vid related
https://litter.catbox.moe/bcojnatsonze6y13.mp4

>>534144076
>>534144234
The fact of the matter is that the perfect card game engine was invented in 1993 and perfected with the 6th Edition rule changes in 1999.

However copyright laws ensure that despite this being decades ago, the engine remains in Hasbro's greedy kike hands and is being used to sell spongebob and marvel collabs, and card gamers must make do with substitutes that can never quite reach perfection.

What deck is good to ladder climb on throwback rotation?

>>534144375
He's good in the mirror if you can drop him before the opponent does.

>>534144507
lastword/reanimate shadow feat ding dong

>>534144494
Commander killed the game.

Magic has it all, that you can have multiple formats with different archetypes, limited, the fucking stack. Its so good but the developers are so bad.

I liked digimon memory system before they killed it. I liked BSS but it feel too swingy and snowbally. All the bandais games are just a mess of blandness sameishness. Hearthstone is fucking awful.

I might try the riot game but its riot and they cant make good games.

>>534144375
Really good against Rune.

>>534144507
Sexka forest is the strongest deck in the meta and isn't even close

>>534144549
>only good in specific situation
>>534144751
Its decent against rune, but its so bad against sword, aggro abyss and roach

>>534144651
>I liked digimon memory system before they killed it.
players will find loopholes and abuse it. every time.

>All the bandais games are just a mess of blandness sameishness.
they also notoriously known for killing their game and remake it. anons here joke about sv3 or sv4 but do they know how many gundam/digimon tcg we had till now

>>534143034
The fact that this game has flashy high-mana cards that feel good to cast and don't lose you the game is literally the best thing about it. This is a game where more skilled players win, just say you prefer low-cost spammy 2-mana counter/remove MTG slop and be done with it.

got diamond finally

>>534145046
>players will find loopholes and abuse it
This isn't even a player issue. Bandai just made too many cards that blatantly raped the initial purpose of the memory gauge. You can't blame it on players abusing it when it was done by design.

>>534145046
I remember really liking that heroes of might and magic card games when I was young.

>>534145171
>This is a game where more skilled players win,
Anon, counterspells arent that good. The only format with a good counterspell deck is pioneer and that format is awful

>>534144651
I remember as a teen when commander first started taking off, it pissed me off so much. Like back then one of the ways to easily get better in your kitchen table play group was learning to trim your deck down to 60 cards and play multiple copies of stuff. You could have zero good cards and a pile of total jank and still win off consistency vs your friends' 150 card all-singles monster decks. It was a great lesson to learn about card games.

Commander kinda just shat on that. It felt like it rewarded refusing to learn how to play the game. And even back then in like 2009-10 it was already making the price of meme cards for casual play skyrocket because now commanderfags saw it as 'investment'.

>>534145171
There is no skill about drawing a "does everything" card.
Its fucking stupid and its fucking boring.

The game is so boring because the moment I play against any deck I already know what I'm going to lose to.
Oh, I'm gonna die to cerb
Oh, to Coc
Oh, to Kuon
Oh, to orchis
Oh, to Albert

Boss boring boss that does fucking everything, makes the game stagnant and fucking boring.

>>534145182
Have fun deranking because the rank system is awful.

I won my first 5 games in diamond then lost to storm haven playing mainyu, healthy meta thanks to odin unironically

>>534144803
which means everyone will run it, what a snoozefest. I'll wait for next rotation to climb then.

>>534145392
Oh you're the anime havensissy. My mistake, I though you were a person for a second.

>>534145308
What dislike the most about commanders its that not even a card game at this point, its a board game, you are actively discouraged to win the game or engage with the board in any active or recurrent way.

You can win but it cannot be very fast nor can you win in a certain way. Its a decent side game but now its the face of the game and I just hate it because every set has like 30% of their cards dedicated to it so limited suffers.

>>534145308
>Commander kinda just shat on that. It felt like it rewarded refusing to learn how to play the game
Funny enough, many Commander decks shit all over constructed Modern and even some Legacy decks.

>>534145493
Just because you like to bounce on my cock doesn't mean I magically stop being a person, faggot.

>>534145171
>flashy high-mana cards that feel good to cast and don't lose you the game is literally the best thing about it
Dragon is designed to have high mana cards that lose you the game though, this is only for protagonist classes

>>534145589
>because every set has like 30% of their cards dedicated to it so limited suffers.
At least the spider-man set is experimenting with MDFC's where one side of the card is designed for standard and the other side is designed for commander, which might help limited suck less than the entire card being designed for commander.

>>534145392
"Flashy" does not mean "do everything."
Finishers and build-arounds are a hallmark of cards games and deckbuilding archetypes.

>check out streamer 2pick
>hand is full of legendaries

forest needs a real boss mosnter
roach can fuck off

why do the nip streamers take 10 years to do their turn even if they have only one option

>>534146030

>>534145868
Every Finisher in this game is a do everything card.
Set up a bunch of wards to defend yourself?

Who cares, albert deletes them all
Who cares, orchis deletes them all
Who cares, CoC certainly doesn't
Who cares, Cerberus fucking doesn't.

There is no setup to anything, you draw your finisher you summon finisher you fucking win.
It is genuinely fucking STUPID and that is because cards do fucking everything.

Oh wowzer bros we got given Odin a free nice storm card and a good finisher.
Do we have to set oding up so he can be good?
Nope, he literally banishing anything and can finish the game by himself no help needed.

>>534146069
Cygames pays them to pretend shadoba takes skill

>>534146030

always funny to see aggrotards realising they have to trade when they realise they are playing against dirt and not spellboost

IT must retvrn

>>534146030
dark aria when? I need to turn my cute fairies into manic jihaddists.

>>534146339
It already got its retrain, retard.

>>534146392
Profusion is nowhere near as good

havenGODS on ladder shitting on forestPOORS

>>534144124
I think forest is great in take two.
Lymaga wins games

I'm not having fun.
Hearthstone was more fun

>>534098609
I know NONE of these. Maybe gold city and that's it. What a fucking shame, I want my crossover leaders NOW

>>534145868
It does do everything because all of those cards don't require any setup to play, the only exception is that can make cerb even more busted

When will it be HER turn?

>>534146739
Yeah because every card is so random your receptors never get fried by repetition. In this game I can tell what my opp is gonna play 20 seconds before they do.

I don't hate roach buit I really wish forest had another viable playstyle.
No tempo is not viable.

>>534146827
When haven is allowed to have a real win condition.

>>534146828
I wonder why rune takes so long to play anna & grea despite being their only play.

>>534146857
rose meme

>>534146827
IT'S TIME

>>534146915
I am considering if I wanna fully clear board while killing her or leaving something behind while keeping her on board.

>>534146964
who is this tasty mamacita

>>534146208
why would you ever post this over nobilis

>>534146973
Bro i'm artifact, i don't have anything above 4 atk on turn 5.

>>534146915
Checking spellboosts on blasts and homework time. Also if I don't have Dshift I try to double-check before playing A&G because I could really use the spellboosts later.

VS swordbabs, considering if trading Anne into something is worth her being Valse'd.

Should I try puppet, is puppet fun?
I tried Rune and it sucks.
I tried Abyss and it sucks.
I tried Haven and it sucks.

Is puppet actually fun?
I don't want to be an artifact shitter.

>>534147034
She's Sofina. From the Fortune's Hand set. Surely she's going to get a leader card any day now.

>>534147419
Portal and Dragon are both very not competitive at the moment
However

Puppet highrolls are very fun if you get them
But the deck is very very inconsistent
very

>Play in diamond
>80% sword, 20% rune
>Drop to sapphire
>Finally get to see the rest of the crafts
This game is so imbalanced that deleting sword would increase the viability of every other craft x10

GO AWAY

>>534147452
currently on my daily pack grind for feetline but no doubt I would switch targets for such a fine little thing

>>534147419
no, don't do it
puppet is really weak
it has no aoe damage like artifact

>>534147487
If sword goes away rune just takes the spot and it becomes rune and roach.

>>534147520
>>534147481
Fucking suffering.
I like the cute puppet girls.

What the fuck.

please God let some psycho track down every sword nigger and chainsaw kill them

>>534147693
I play only sword

>>534147419
decently fun but there is a point where it feels like there is no real wincon, orchis as op as she might be can only carry you so far

>>534147606
Delete rune.

I just made a new account for take2 and my first four ranked matches were all against opponents that did literally nothing except pass their turn. What the fuck is going on?

>>534146776
>>534146170
Lack of setup also does not equate to doing everything. Plenty of finishers in this game don't cover all situations and are bad into certain boards.
Don't throw around terms erroneously just because you want to use something that sounds more derogatory than the proper terminology.
Just take your own example in Cerberus. Definitionally, she does not "do everything" on her own but she has a decent floor and a high ceiling in what she can accomplish. She's a payoff that has certain deckbuilding constraints to reduce variance, but even with high variance her floor is still good. Still, she only puts out so much damage on her own and it usually needs something to suicide into. By definition, she's flexible but conditional in reaching her full power.
Setup is not what defines whether a card is a "do everything." Plenty of cards in SV1 are "do everything" cards because they legitimately have like 4 effects crammed onto them.
Odin is not a "do everything" card, but he's still insanely good because he's crazy reach and the best piece of single-target removal in the game.

>>534147883
If we delete Rune sword loses its only even matchup

>>534146827
>tfw still putting packs into Academy of Ages to get her leader card

>>534146918
He said "viable."

>take two
>pick dragon
>get an actually good deck with a good curve and ramp and draw and bombs
>go first against sword
>they shit out a board I can't answer
>lose
>second game, the exact same thing happens again
>had 3 calamity breaths in my deck
God, I was looking forward to TT so much, but I really don't want to have to pick sword literally every single fucking time.

>>534147968
>need heal?
Summon cerb!

>Need board wipe?
Summon cerb!

>Need insta win?
Summon cerb!

>s-s-hes not a do everything card!!!!11

>need sex?
Summon cerb!

>>534148354
They really need to change it so that you can just play out all 7 matches if you want to.

>>534148354
learn2mulligan

Noooo! I don't wanna be here!

>>534148354
Why are they blushing.

>>534145308
The 60 card version of commander they made had so much potential andthey shat all over it.

>>534146857
Tempo is both viable and very fun. I've been winning more of 5-6 power roaches in tempo than I did with OTK.

>>534147968
Since artifact became irrelevant and gildaria is first, cerberus is the second best legendary in the game only brought down by abyss having just decent cards, there's no downplaying her she's the only reason abyss is playable outside of aggro

>>534148420
She doesn't board wipe without setup, which means she isn't doing it all on her own.
She only heals you a little bit and can only get more if you build your deck a certain way or get lucky, and you still need something to suicide Mimi into.
She's certainly not instantly winning you shit without other cards on the table.
She requires a lot of help from other cards to do anything approaching "everything," so as i said, she's conditional. Cerberus is one of the few well-designed bombs in this game because she actually has deckbuilding and play pattern implications beyond just slamming her on the table.
I swear, avatarfags consistently have the most inane, poorly thought out takes.

>>534148028
Delete both sword and rune.

>>534148961
>She doesn't board wipe without setup, which means she isn't doing it all on her own.
Nigga she puts 5 bodies with rush and huge damage boost.

>>534148961
>She doesn't board wipe without setup
What the FUCK am I reading?

>>534148961
IMO the biggest mark against cerb is that her SEVO effect is only dependable once. This assumes that you don't pollute the revive pool with one-drops, or that forest didn't stuff fairies into your graveyard.

>>534148028
If Rune didn't have a 100% turn 10 WR, Dragon, Haven and Abyss could play hard control decks that cuck Sword.
This shit has happened multiple times in multiple card games. One fair midrange deck gets played ad nauseam and "ruins the meta" because it's the only deck that can beat another broken deck that's raping everything else. And the fair deck gets blamed for it.

>>534149153
The he's trying to wipe a board that's bigger than sword knight token spam?

>>534149261
Is there any other kind of board in this fucking meta?

>>534148947
I'm not downplaying her at all. My problem is with the misattribution of the term "do everything."
Cerberus is a very good card, but she's got stiff competition.

>>534149048
>>534149153
She puts two bodies with Rush and a damage boost, can sevo to be one herself, and then the remaining two bodies you get are based on the aforementioned deckbuilding and play pattern constraints, and they don't get the boost. There are plenty of common boards she can't wipe cleanly.

>>534149245
>sword
>fair
>when they can grind the long game with 5 SEVO points and Yurius on top of having extremely aggressive early and mid games.

>>534149245
You are mental if you think sword is not the problem.

>>534149297
Hey now, sometimes Ward Haven gets uppity.

>>534149303
>She puts two bodies with Rush and a damage boost, can sevo to be one herself, and then the remaining two bodies you get are based on the
So you've never played Abyss and have never played against it.
What the fuck are you even spouting.

All you do is summon cerb, cerb summons a body ram him onto the enemy then Sevo Cerb do then revive multiples of said body you just rammed into.

You're fucking retarded, stop talking fucking dipshit.

>>534149303
My brother in christ, if you have Cerb in your deck you do not play any other 1 drop shut the fuck up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl00Tz-aR2s

>>534149303
>but she's got stiff competition.
No she doesn't, not in wb. The only better legendary is gildaria and arguably orchis but portal is lacking now. There's nothing you could do to defend yourself or stop a cerb, and the only board she doesn't delete are aether and amelia, in which case you simply drop cerb at a better timing. The only reason people don't complain about cerb is because every other abyss card is fairly balanced so you don't get put in lethal range the moment cerb is played most of the time

>>534149463
>he doesn't even know what the fucking card does
Of course not.
Tell me how well you're clearing thicker boards when you
>play Cerb, get buffed Coco and Mimi
>ram in dog of choice
>sevo, revive two of dog, but without buff
Avatarfag go and stay go.

>>534149507
No dick. What part of "deckbuilding and play pattern constraints" don't you get? She's still not "doing it all" even if you conform to that constraint.

i gambled all my rupees and now i want to quit....

Apparently a million doggos with a 9/9 cerb isn't enough to take down boards bros

Holy fuck, why does this game have the lowest IQ dipshits out there?

Do people really run Yurius in sword?

>>534149507
All but one deck in shadowverse.wins is running the pumpkin girl

>>534150171
You did it to try and get Filene didn't you... why'd do you do it for that whore?

Cerb can't clear a huge Pascale buffed board. Shit card desu.

>>534150349
IN AGGRO.

>>534150342
Not really, he's quite situational. Even when they do, it's only 1 copy at most

>>534149664
In a vacuum, Cerb is pretty good and is somewhat kept in check by deckbuild constraints and the card pool she's part of, but cards don't exist in a vacuum. I'll give that she has the most potential in the game currently.
>Gildaria
A massive value and a huge tempo swing. She extends Sword's grind game phenomenally. She gives you bodies, aids in board clear, reduces the burden on a limited resource in the late game, and plays well with Sword's other cards.
>Orchis
Gives Portal reach, board clear, and a modest defensive buffer that gums up card sequencing by forcing targeting. Additional puppet generators allow her to give you even more board clear or reach as well, but her ceiling is lower at the moment.
>Odin
Despite being simple, is great reach and the best single target removal in the game. He's an easy slot-in for most decks because he's such a no-brainer to wield.
>Kuon
A modular and plays incredibly well with Rune's card pool. He's multiple bodies, all right board clear, a modest amount of reach, an enabler for you other tools since he presents five spellboosts on his own, and is a potential finisher on turn 10 if you saved a sevo point. Kuon is the closest to a "do everything" card in the larger context of the craft he's part of, which is why he can compete with Cerberus in efficacy despite having less raw potential in what he can do.
I would say these four plus Cerb make up the top five legends in the game currently.

>>534149796
NTA but I don't even know why you're trying to die on that hill.
Sevo Cerb is a 9/9, then she summons a 3/2, a 4/1, and most of the time 2 2/1. That's total of 20 Atk on that side of the board. The only board she doesn't outright clear is Wilbert Aether curve.

And heals and burns and board wipes.
Literally do everything fucking card.

THIS is the problem with this shit game, its riddled with do everything cards, there is no hand management no skill expression its a matter of....Did you draw the do everything card?

Playing take two in sv1 again has been a nice reminder of how bad things can really get.

Why do you guys call it "face" for dragon while calling it "aggro" for sword and abyss? They do the same thing right?

>>534150714
Because Dragon is a craft for retards, somehow even more so than Sword, and so it gets the grug caveman speak name for its aggro deck.

>>534149160
Not totally dependable but if you sevo double mimi the first time then there will be a much higher chance for mimis than cocos the second time too (or vice versa if you need healing)

>>534150463
>rush
>storm
>storm
>rush
I’m nooticing

>>534150171
There's always more rupies fren.

>>534150714
because Face Dragon doesn't trade, just unga bunga until death or opponent death

>>534150714
They got more storm and intimidation.

>>534150714
even JP streamers calls it kao (face) doragon

>>534150392
No, Cerberus, Charon and Ginsetsu decks are running Cultivator of Malice.

I'm sure it's a trick, or the people running her got tricked into netdecking a card that ruins your Cerbussy turns. But it's there.

Aggro doesn't run Cerberus because they run Cultivator, Lilith and Bats.

>>534150171
Everytime I get 500 Rupies I've been tossing it at Infinity

>discussion about the best legendaries
>galdara
>sex raccoon
>sword cat
>no mention of dclimb
Uhhh have I been lied to? Was this a rune downplayer general all along?

You know whats more fun than one vtuber?
Two of them.

Honestly, Dirt rune is probably the most fun class, I love seeing people try and overcome this vtumor bitch.

>>534151012
Its a spell. Its good and will get better in the future unlike those

>>534150786
It's almost like they shoved way more Rush and Storm down our throats right out of the gate in WB compared to the early days of SV1.
It's one of the fundamental issues resulting in the current play patterns we're stuck with. Nothing can be allowed to stick to the board because there's too many big bodies and damage spikes, so removal has to be crazy, and since removal is crazy they put in more followers that can just hit the ground running.

>>534151050
How do you sustain the sigils for vtuber? Even if I run just 1 I find it hard to replenish the dirt. But then again I play aggro dirt so I spend as much dirt as possible.

>>534150463
You can defend against all versions of kuon, he's not a problem compared to d climb
You can not defend against cerb's guaranteed damage so she's automatically better and will only get better with time
Cerb deals as much as odin minimum while healing and abyss can run odin anyways, and you can defend against odin, even if it's hard in his case
Only gildaria and orchis are as uninteractable as cerb and this is only helping the argument that there are do everything cards

>>534150714
Sword and Abyss are the conventional Zoo/Burn/Suicide aggro decks.
Storm Haven is an aggro deck entirely reliant on big Storm followers. Face Dragon is unconventional insofar as most creature combat games don't have an Intimidate mechanic that lets them ignore creature combat and just "go face".

>>534151050
Nigga you are probably death next turn with Satan climb.

>>534150671
>there is no hand management no skill expression
did you know crypt+cerb isn't actually just 11 damage?
it's 11 damage if you sevo a ghost
but if you sevo cerb it's 50% chance for 11 damage, 25% chance for 9 damage, and 25% for 13 damage, provided you have enough stuff to kill off
cerb is a do everything card but she does take skill to use

Shadowverse movie announced.

>>534149650
>heaven had the suicide bunny
lmao

>>534151050
One time I was fighting spellboost Rune and got them down to lethal and range and they comedically tried to kill Vtuber multiple times even with board wipes before conceding.

>>534149650
Would be tanoshii if it did not cost 1000 gold to enter, actually let you play all matches, and you could play it in park / private

>>534151117
Just use sagelight teachings for a +4 sigils and you're pretty much set from them on.
I feel like it just compounds quickly after that, only thing that really uses up sigils anyways is edelweiss and norman.

>>534151012
D-Climb is retarded and scrapes against the top five, but it's a payoff that needs enablers and additional payoffs to go into. D-Climb is an insanely good facilitator of bullshit, but Kuon, A&G, and Satan are the actual sauce that make the deck work. It has a ceiling comparable to Cerberus in that it's only as good as the cards you have to play with it, but we'll see how it ages. In SV1, D-Shift had the problem of sometimes existing in metas where decks just went under it, created boards it couldn't clear while still killing, or were on similar levels of bullshit.
D-Climb will probably fall in and out of favor depending on the pace of play going forward.

>tired of losing to rune
>try aggro abyss because apparently it's favored
>no rune for the past 10 games
I can't even test this matchup, lol
Anyway, aggro abyss is pretty fun even though every win makes me feel dirtier than an Indian shitting in the Ganges river

>>534151295
They best we can hope for is an unranked free entry mode so people can practice. That would just make the ranked mode more sweaty than it already is though.

>>534151398
I like face abyss more because you can spam the taunt emote when you have shark in hand. Diawl just sucks as leader

>>534151156
You can also reliably convert two ghosts + Cerb into 10 damage without gambling if the enemy has a board. This is the option I usually go for because I don't like RNG.

>>534151498
I meant face dragon, my brain farted hard. Guess thats what playing aggro shit does to your brain.

>>534151302
Wonder how midrange dirt does against boost. Mine is an autoloss against it

>>534151620
Its annoying if they resolve one shark with tons of sigils. You will not stop the otk if you get to turn 10/11.

>>534151527
it's 11 damage but I know, I'm saying if the opponent is on 12 or 13, it's usually gonna be worth the gamble, especially because it leaves a bigger board for them to deal with anyways

>>534151295
Yeah I really like the drafting aspect and smaller deck size. Needing to pay 1k and having to win 5 to break even in rupies just made it a pick Sword or don't fucking bother mode, which is a shame.

>>534151681
No I mean send one ghost into face, kill the other ghost and a Mimi, reanimate two Mimis, 10 damage total. I often prefer this over sevoing a ghost for 11 damage because it leaves behind a stronger board and your second Cerberus will have a better chance of reanimating Mimi's.

3 Turns.
3 Odin evolves.
This game is retarded.

>>534151681
> especially because it leaves a bigger board for them to deal with anyways
In my experience this doesn’t matter as much because you left behind a board with no ward and you’re about to get stormed to death if you didn’t kill them on the cerb turn

>>534151739
The card pool is so small, that instead of choosing leader + 2 core cards, they should've pooled all cards from all crafts, and you play with what you get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZTFh0Npj2U
Buckle up, the horses are gonna play our game.

>>534151469
This video reminded me how broken medusa is yet the game contains much more BS cards, so medusa gets mostly ignored

>>534151175
>Marie actor doesn't look retarded
Clearly fake.

>Delete sword
>Delete dshift
>Nerf roach
There game is now improved

>>534151869
If you aren't at near full health with abyss you did something wrong, and they can't ignore cerb she's a 9/9 body

>>534151121
>so she's automatically better
I don't really think raw damage output or accessibility is what decides whether a card is better or worse. Sure, the goal of the game is to reduce the opponent's life to zero, but there are things that contribute to that besides being direct damage themselves.
Kuon and Odin come down a turn sooner and can swing games faster. Odin has direct removal, but fails against multiple wards. His simplicity and lack of deckbuilding constraint make him easier to wield than Cerb.
Kuon is more synergistic with Rune's overall gameplan and while he isn't winning the game on his own aside from certain scenarios on turn 10, he's a lot of bang for your buck. You can defend against Kuon, but he enables the rest of Rune's gameplan elegantly and is himself a payoff on turn 10.
Cerberus does guaranteed burn damage, but on her own she does 7 at max as long and only as long as there are things to crash into. You can extend that damage with Cemeteries or bodies that managed to stick, but that's a point for synergy.
She also gives you some healing, but it caps at 2 unless you choose to reanimate Cocos instead. Cerb will get better with time, but only if Abyss gets options that are actually worth diluting your reanimate pool for. We're two sets in and Midrange/Control Abyss are still stuck having no turn 1 play. At some point Cerberus becomes as much of a shackle as she does a boon.
>are as uninteractable as cerb and this is only helping the argument that there are do everything cards
Lack of interaction isn't what constitutes "do everything" either. They're great cards that provide massive value and/or tempo, but there are areas where they suffer.

>>534151794
I'm just talking about lethal lines, I feel like people don't know you can lethal on 13 with just crypt cerb

>>534151869
yeah the main reason is so that you kill them lol

Cerb should give +2/0 and rush to the two reanimated followers. Then bats wouldn't feel bad to reanimate.

>>534152171
It feels like shit when you try to go for the 13 damage lethal and get 9 damage instead.

>>534152192
It's funny cause even reanimating fairies is probably better since they have rush and could at the very least maybe be used to trade into something

>>534152282
you haven't even tried it

If I had to face someone with back to back cerb or back to back orchis in take two ill never play again

>>534151117
You generally need to commit to Lilanthem before turn 8 and start setting up for her.

>>534152046
Remove every do everything cards and the game massively improves.
Cards shouldnt have multiple effects and storm should be hard limited.

No card with storm should EVER do more than 3dmg, they should not be allowed to evo either.

>>534152339
I have.

One easy way to fix game
Delay the super evolution turns by 2. Now people can’t go ME BAMPY UNGA BUNGA and do back to back evos

>>534152703
Garyu bros...

>>534152703
Just delete sevos from the game. They were always a mistake.

>>534152639
shut the fuck up hearthsissy

Why is Nameless demon like this?

bros why does the digimon tcg look so bad....
it was supposed to save card games....

Finally played against someone with a fully animated card.
It was a park player playing full art eudie in puppet.

>>534153162
SV3 will save card games.

>>534152807
In theory they are nice, as they give you more options to make early cards relevant later by having designated sevo effect. Maybe sevo should just be +2 and not have damage ping. I'm unsure about the immorality.

>>534152807
This. Delete sevo. Keep evo equalized at 2 per player.
Coin and second player getting evo first is plenty for shoring up the variance between first and second player.
Sevo is just a weird grab bag of effects that also gives even more potential burst damage and makes board management far more annoying.

>>534153183
I once queued into a dragon player with an animated filene feet sleeve, played filene with alt art and had the animated chicken too. But they still stuck with default kung fu dude

>>534148934
What's your decklist currently?

>>534153138
imagine having gigantic tits and ass and still being a low class demon

>>534152807
I'd like to see how sevo would be if the follower wasn't immune to dmg or destruction effects on your turn.

>Odin consistently goes face for 4-7 damage as well as deleting anything they want
>Is a 3x auto include in nearly every craft
>Nobody cares
>Norman costs 1 less, heals 4 and can heal for 8 if you spend an evo
>Everybody cries about him endlessly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjUcL_-NLg
Is there a better stream than Dayan's to learn Roach?

>>534152096
>but there are areas where they suffer.
No there aren't, the only scenarios we are even discussing are their minimum floors on their own
If you actually take previous plays into account or extra pps,, orchis and cerberus can do 12-15 damage, even more than albert and he requires no wards on field
Gildaria's only weakness is that she doesn't give storm to every follower that comes into play
And when we take multiple plays into account now you can put d shift into the discussion where it can allow you to literally do everything including otk through anything
>Lack of interaction isn't what constitutes "do everything" either.
Do you want them to add ward to mimi and coco for cerberus to be a do everything?
If these units did anything more they might as well win you the game on the spot (d climb does it 20% of the time), there's barely any planning you can do against them other than hoping they don't have them drawn or winning the game before they get played. They are effectively a do everything in the context of wb if no other cards get the amount of value the give

>>534154000
Everyone complains about odin runetard
Norman, an earth rite follower, is a 3x auto include in fucking spellbost

>try really hard as ward haven but only stayed in sapphire before going on insane loss streaks and get kicked down to topaz
>decide to take a break from it and just play face dragon
>spike all the way back up to diamond

i mean i guess face dragon gets screwed over by ward haven really hard but it feels really good against pretty much anything else if I get decent draws

Man meme brainwashing is real.
I was shocked to see how serious and stern faced the nu-rowen is.
Looked at the OG and it's marginally better, but somehow I didn't remember him like this.
Must be all the memes and edits fucking with my memory.
Meme Rowen is better than real Rowen.
Wish we got that one Chinese advert Rowen as a leader.

please give me sword and rune please please please I can't take another match of my opponent healing 30 off darkhaven grace
oh right no one plays sword and rune because those decks are bad

>Damage dealt to enemy leader 31
>Loss
t-thanks rune...

>>534154409
How did Rowen become so memeable? I never saw him as more than some gruff looking guy wearing armor.

>>534154409
you didn't play the voiceline before purchasing?
the voice actors sound a lot more serious this time around. they even re-recorded these anniversary leaders when they could have reused the old ones from SV1

>>534154785
He is a fucking idiot from what I recall of the sv1 first story.
Didn't he leave his family?

>>534154917
I play with no audio for most games. I just judged by animations, now that I checked the voice lines are off too.

>>534153383
Already closed the game and went to bed but off the top of my head
>3x May, Pond, Convocation, Tamer, Twinkletoes, Lilly, Fencer, Roach, Cynthia, Titania, Glade, Odin
>2x Aria, Olivia

>>534154000
Nobody would care about Norman if Satan DClimb doesn't exist, all he does is prolonging the game.

>>534154142
Does anyone have the list for his Roach deck? I don't think he's using picrel

>>534154413
using 3 benison in a row will heal you for a net of 20 because the crest doesn't stack, btw
that's 6pp and 3 cards compared to what rune can do with 15 pp, 2 evos, and 3 cards (2 norman evo + sagelight), so it is objectively, unironically better

>>534155604
- legendaries and the 2/2 fairy
+3 of that 2 cost draw and 1 water fairy

https://x.com/mingmao111/status/1953007788118163486
don't open if you're br*tish

>>534156051
>Due to local laws, we are temporarily restricting access to this content until X estimates your age.

>>534155704
I dunno the whole taking 10 damage after the fact when you have a 20 life cap seems like a bit of a downside. What with them being able to Albert lethal you anyways when the burn comes on your turn.

>>534155008
Thanks mate.

>>534156115
Go suck off the king or something.

>>534156051
I'm not british and I can't see it

TEPPEKI GARDO

>>534156151
Same. God I hate this timeline.

>>534156051
Ok, and where do I get the files to get this in my game?

>>534156468
Probably on his discord server

>>534153138
She is so sexo bros...

>>534155604
>only missing 2 lilies for this deck
Should I do it bros? Should I spend 1500 vials and learn to roach. I fucking hate roach in sv1, but I just want to play something new right now.

>>534150712
this card was kino thoughbeit

i'm so burned out by the meta that i can't even do a single match in ranked...

>abyss mirror
>opponent draws more legendaries

>>534156982
yes, 1500 vials is nothing for the sheer bullshit that roach is capable of
it's only gatekept by difficulty, if everyone doesn't care about how hard a deck is to pilot, ranked would be infested with roach

>>534154000
Kill yourself

bros why are control/value decks so much more fun than aggro/otk/midrange decks
I love control abyss
I love ramp dragon
I hate everything else

>>534157410
>I love ramp dragon
>1 win
clearly you're not very good at it

>>534157487
hm nyo...

>>534157410
You like back and forth games

>>534157527
Midrange vs midrange tend to be the most back and forth game thoughever

What are your hopes and dreams for leaders next set?

>>534157410
No love for puppet?

>>534157715
puppet is in a really bad spot right nyow

>>534157715
Puppet is terrible in grindy games because you can't do SHIT without sevo.

>>534157684
galm, izudia, valn, lish

>>534157715
As a puppet main, playing that deck is pure suffering. While other decks get lego cards that do good shit on drop, puppet needs evo/sevo.

>>534157580
Yeah but midrange vs anything else in this game is trash

>>534154785
look at this face. how is it not memeable

>>534154997
i don't remember him being an idiot in the story. at least no more than anyone else.

>>534158198
oh shit so this is what you guys refer to when talking about dragon JO crystal

I haven’t played in a week. Has sword and rune been dethroned yet?

>>534158315
Yeah, dragonGODS run Shadoba

>>534157684
galmoo

>>534158315
yes. they also gave a few packs for compensation, check your crate

>>534157894
>>534158015
You don't NEED sevo, but trying to close a game without it is pretty suffering, and requires you to have enough foresight to know to start saving puppets.

>>534158315
Marie's reign of terror will continue until morale improves.

Would Haven be good if they nerfed Odin so he isn't in every deck?

>>534158504
Dragoncraft has cute girls

>>534158547
indeed

>>534158534
Nerfing Odin means Rune gets even better on ladder. I'm good bro, keep Odin the same.

>>534158524
Saving puppets is pretty hard when your opponent board vomits on every turn.

>>534158315
Yes, sword dethroned rune.

>>534158534
Haven will never be good until it gets a solid win condition or finisher

>>534157684
I'd unironically drop $400 if they made a ralmia leader, but best im gonna get is alternate art for her worlds beyond legendary instead

Okay, so apparently leaving before s-evo still counts as an early forfeit. Some poor beginner rank newfag i was raping with midrange sword did it to me and I didn't get a key

>>534158638
Who did it better

I WILL rope any and all sword players I have lethal on.

>>534158534
No, it would be the same as haven uses Odin too.

>>534157993
Holy shit! We will get Galm team as leader?

>>534158534
Just keep queuing into roach bro

How long until next set? i'm on maintenance mode again
Take2 just made it worse with 80% of matches being Sword with Alberts
>have to endlessly clear the board against the hordes of cards that shit out multiple followers
>can't clear them all because for some reason they also have ward and rush
>fall below 12 hp from chip damage
>literally die right after

>>534158853
you're not good enough at the game to claim you figured out the entire meta

>>534158765
vampy sexo

>>534158524
>foresight to know to start saving puppets.
Doesn't apply in current meta, most of your games will be against sword/rune. Sword will always drop tons of units and you end up burning puppets and evo points on apollo to clear them out. Rune will always outheal you and end the game by turn 10 unless their card luck is beyond dogshit, which is not even an issue for them because of how many they draw.

>>534158914
sex

>>534156982
Lilly was playable for her whole Standard run in SV1 and until BP12 in SVE where cards don't rotate.

She's one of the safest cards to craft in the game.

you dont need to be good to know that sword is broken and needs a balance update

sword is the only honest craft thoughbeit

Dragon is so honest its the worst craft in the game.

>>534140243
The draw effect is actually very relevant in actual dirt. You pop it more than the heal even.

>>534159218
dragon is 1 good ramp card away from being the biggest cancer in ladder akin to rune

>>534159310
Just waiting for a good tempo ramp card so Face Ramp Dragon is real again

>>534159252
>The draw effect is actually very relevant in actual dirt.
I disagree. Dirt is best played as an aggressive tempo deck, you almost always want to summon golems.

lmao they uploaded umamusumes playing shadoba together and they didn't play a single match
https://youtu.be/QZTFh0Npj2U

>>534157314
>>534158994
I forgot about the first reply. I am also missing the new gold 2 cost draw spell. Seems important to the deck, so I might just wait since 3000 vials is almost a legendary and I am still opening the new pack.

Why isn't dragon good

>>534159767
>has to give up turns 3, 4 and 8 to do nothing

>>534158765
Who is middle?

>>534159676
KMR works in mysterious ways

>>534159892
My daughter.

>>534155604
What is this card?

>>534160054
aria rape fairy convocation

>>534160158
Thank you. I was hesitating between this card and bug alert.
So he's not running Bug alert? Card seems strong, though.

>>534158853
I just pick portal and comfy-farm sword players for 4-7 wins

>>534160339
Wait, there is Bug alert in his deck!!

>>534158765
>>534158638
child

>>534160469

>>534160035
Looks cool but I'm not an abyssbab

>>534159650
Dirt wants to be an aggressive tempo deck. The issue is that that simply isn't always an option. You need to be able to grind to win a large number of its match ups in practice. Your strong anti aggro game means the healing isn't relevant very often but double golems suffer in a large number of relevant match ups. If the opponent is representing Gildaria it's risky playing it into Sword. Midabyss has multiple answers. And digging for Lilanthem and Odin is integral to the spellboost match up if you didn't win early game.

>>534156051
Do they upload these mods somewhere?

>>534160469
erotic

>>534158765
I love vampires

>>534158638
I love dragons

He buffed my Lily and left?!

>>534161138
Chad move.

>>534160962
>And digging for Lilanthem and Odin is integral to the spellboost match up if you didn't win early game.
Let's be real, if you didn't win the early game vs. Rune or Sword you're fucked either way. You aren't winning in a grindy game.

When?

>Try to learn Roach
>Players in unranked are too weak
I'm not learning anything. I'll play in the Park

fishcraft coming to your neighborhood soon

>>534161972
WTF I love Forest now!?

Do I just suck if I average like 3-5 wins and cant go beyond that so far...?

>>534162043
soon

>>534161940
Stop caring about your group and just play in ranked

>>534162106
this is it, the card that will give all orcas storm (token)

what went wrong?

I am SO fucking good at shadoba

>>534162282
greed that would even make a jew blush

>>534161972

>>534161398
Lilanthem is a serious wincon against Rune. She was meta in spellboost specifically because she single handedly dumpsters the mirror, people started cutting her because she's bad against Sword which is where you filter her away. If you get her down you'll even usually win if they're at 20 life when she enters.

>Get tired of sword meta in ranked
>Patiently wait for take two
>Its just a sword meta in there as well

>>534162116
I'm going to play a few more games and I'll play in ranked when I feel ready.
Two or three games should be enough!

Abyssbabs

>>534162282
what's the benefit

Thoughts on this semen demon?

time to ding your dong

What's the point of ranked when any shitter can get diamond and master points are just a grind?
Will we ever have a proper MMR system that accurately reflects player skill in the rankings?

>>534163001
Grand Master rank soon

>>534163062
How does Grand Master work?

>>534162875
made for marriage

>>534163001
ranked dailies
the good players used to hang out in shadoba park but ever since they added S+ and S++ they grind ranked 24/7 now

>>534136432
the Starter Bundle gives you 1200 crystals

>>534163182
1100*

Emergency nerfs doko

>>534163001
diamond does, its based on your winrate to consitely stay in diamond you need something close to 65% winrate vs people that also have high winrate.
but the thing is that because we are also separated by rank it means that diamond in low ranks is not as valuable as in master or AA

watch sexoverse flame

>>534163430
Ho-chan to 9PP. Nexto.

>>534156051
Omaygot!!!

>>534163165
>Left=missionary
>Middle=facefuck
>Right=standing doggy

>>534164039

>>534163608
Why do they advertise their anime with underaged girls in swimsuits?

Why isn’t your guild S+ yet

>>534164445
We all know the answer but when you say it everyone calls you a tourist.

>>534164445
i asked for this

>>534164734
Appeals to me

portal needs more universal cunny legendaries

>>534162282
everyone realized the park is just pointless

>>534164445
Leader when?

Would you Dreizhen?

>>534165472
i would pop her waterbags and reveal that DFC

>>534165472
>Dreizhen
your german reps, anon...

>>534165326
>>534164762
Why do I find this gentleman so appealing

>>534165853
because I suspect you eat corn the long way

>play like an idiot
>ignore enemy board
>win
God damn I love slaughtering runetumors
Nice skill baded game, faggots

New thread
>>534165830
>>534165830
>>534165830

>>534166415
nice

How did they make all the wrong decisions with wb? Like it should not be that hard to make a better game than og shadoba

>>534166415
Erm....

>>534161576
i hope we get the wrath archetype first
1-2-3-GARODETH was peak shadoba, shame the fixed evolve stats make card design like this impossible

>>534166873

>>534167003
whoa, he could ultra evolve!

>>534166873
They can just add +x/+x to evo effects, or add "when this follower evolves" effects

>>534163430
no nerfs, enjoy the upcoming sword prix. nexto.

dragonbro... you weren't supposed to play that...

>>534086654 (OP)
>second time ever playing Roach ever, no idea what I'm doing
>coin Tamer, get lightning, pass 3 turns
>place Staff
>Runefag immediately quits
Are Runefags seriously mindbroken by this deck this much?
Also, who should I watch to learn the basics how to Roach?

aaaiiiieeee

>>534167796
Is Gabranth worth buying the battle pass for? I like armors but i heard he's a shitty character

>>534165472
>>534165530
Nooo

>>534168023
he has actual usable voicelines
if you don't read the story then him being a shitty character doesn't affect you

>>534168023
if you like the look of him, then it's worth it.
I got the battle pass, and i don't even like the hero - just the game doesn't give you many opportunities to actually spend money on the game without a horrendous return other than the battle pass.

>>534168023
This game has a story?

Sword might be the hardest class to get 7 wins with in draft. When you get to the end, it's all people playing a deck that have beaten 6 other sword decks like your or the coin flip mirror.

>Sword might be the hardest class to get 7 wins with in draft. When you get to the end, it's all people playing a deck that have beaten 6 other sword decks like your or the coin flip mirror.

>>534168290
Yeah sword doesnt have enough good cards. When do they buff sword?

>quote entire text

>>534168516

>>534168339
i don't think it takes win record into account at all, just the new mmr. which is even worse because your 6-1 game could be against tanaka's brand new super draft he paid $50 for so he could get 4 gildarias and 2 yurius.

Ding Dong needs a buff. Give her barrier back. Maybe also aura. Make her a real menace to deal with.

>>534168583
No, retard. 6 wins deck will be playing against another 6 wins deck. Use your fucking brain

>>534168927
that would require there to be multiple 6 win decks queuing at the same time in an ostensibly dead game mode. it'd also defeat the entire point of the matchmaking rating if the only 6 win decks are at master and b0.

>>534168843
ding dong barrier would be a nice buff to aether

>>534168927
>trust me bro, my cousin works on contract at pr in cy

>>534169059
It would also make ding dong much more playable in CAbyss, which is my selfish reason for wanting that. Reanimating a million ding dongs with barrier and aura would be fun, especially if I give them bane.

how do you get on top of eudie

>>534169039
That is exactly the point of the match making in draft mode, fucking retard I swear.

>>534169186
>queue into someone 5k bp higher than you
>lose
>tilt uncontrollably
Man, whoever is designing WB is a fucking retard.

>>534169186
how do you know opponent also has 6 wins?
screenshot from 1 player doesn't prove anything
this is just a guess unless you also have screenshot from opponent

Hmmm nyess, match making actually depends entirely on your rank and not your win record. Some 6 wins deck should get a free 7th win while you at 0 win should go 0-2 because... nyes, that makes sense

5 games in a row where every match looks like this, I'm so tired.

i'd assume it's just like normal ranked where it tries to match both as well as possible without taking forever
just replace group with win rate

anons are always so pissy

>>534169535
the same happened in sv1, 4-0 players could only match with 4-0 players for their final match
cygames being the penny pinching jews they are, that part of matchmaking code was probably copypasted to save costs

>>534169842
It prioritizes win record over rank. So at 6-wins is where you will most likely find opponent far from your current rank.

>checking random 7-wins posts on X
>their decks all have 4+ leggos
I hate this
reroll shouldn't give you leggos, at best it should be gold

I am still unironically trying to figure it out why i played Olivia
No fucking wonder i have troubles with this deck, i don't even know why i play certain cards
AA2 Sapphire btw very soon Ruby

i hope the story will be as kino

>>534170792
you zoned out. it happens

>>534170932
It happens a lot though
I won with that odin lethal later when i banished a second willbert drop

>>534170792
What was the correct move? Odin or Medusa?

>>534170747
it adds an extra level of high rolling. they really went full gacha with worlds beyond, every aspect of the design is overflowing with rng upon rng. open your rng daily pack, reroll your rng dailies for more rupees, then open your rng park chests.

>>534171314
Odin? Medusa better saved fr aether

>>534171314
Odin, Medusa is more useful to deal with Aether later

>>534171314
Medusa is the best answer because she full clears Wilbert and makes dropping Aether extremely shit because she can't kill Medusa without Grimnir crest (you can evolve Medusa if they do) and Medusa then fucks the Aether board.

Muahahahahahahaa!

I hope we get Galmieux, Lishenna, and Valnareik leaders. Don't give a fuck about the other omens.

>>534171938
one leader is gonna be ROB, it's not all omens
personally i think we will get bampi as leader

>big discussion about the best leggos
>sperging out about how great you all think cerb is
>ctrl+f "Aragavy"
>0-results
You all are a bunch of Timmies and don't recognize true power when you see it.

>>534171543
I did played medusa to clear what was left behind by Willbert follow up Olivia but got killed by a divine shield cast
That was unfortunate

>>534172116
Yeah, it really does need to be on curve to cuck them. It's good to delay the Aether turn as much as possible so you can drop your 9 pp do nothing.

>>534172090
aragavy and glade is degenerate card design
"""random""" aoe damage spread that isn't actually random is cancer

>>534172482
You are retarded

>>534170792
odin
>>534171543
its still better to save medusa for aether to drop as removal on turn 7 + aether on turn 8 turn could lead them to stabilize after you play cerb. its not likely though as the matchup is free especially with the hand shown

>>534172482
Where does it say random?

I want my puppet skin. Where is the event

They went too far with removal if a card like Zombieman can't even leave a 2/2 alive consistently on the second set of the game

They should make a Matryoshka doll follower that's even stickier than my sperm resting inside Filene's feetwomb

>>534172090
every craft has their overtuned 5 drop board clear follower so if anything abyss gets fucked for him being a leggo

>>534172545
I don't like the play as much since it only kills 3, leaving a body for Jannu buff. I find it more effective to just draw it out and give them awkward turns.

>>534172685
Only sword can answer him like nothing
For anyone else 1 or 2 zombie are almost guarantee to live

bruh turn 4 not being able to evolve completely fucks over dragon if they go first

Where is the Bumpkin Recruit reprint for swordcraft?

>>534173048
Just ramp into MerGOD.

>>534173104
cuter recruit

>>534173201
I want to look up her skirt and peek at her cute poorfag plain panties

>>534172090
>true power
You mean 2*Vuela Sevo whatever is active on board?

>>534173201
built for extreme ryona and guro

>>534173201
the male is better dressed for combat
this girl is gonna get gobbed

>>534173340
She is built for goblin cock.

>>534172884
if he plays jannu the following turn he die to cerb anyways no real point to worry about it if you setup 3 turn lethal (none of this matters btw he drew dusa with olivia)

Built for my human cock

For you anon...

>>534172042
What makes you think there will be an ROB leader? I think we aren't getting Vampy until a dedicated ROB set, which is likely going to be set 4 or 5.

>>534173624
uhh whats in it

Why Eudie is even a legendary card? her fanfare is not that great and her evo is 4 healing over 4 turns. And don't tell me about card draw because portals hands are always full of cogs and puppets so it doesn't trigger.

I might need to start considering slotting in apollo

>>534173856
I think most classes would kill for Eudie

>>534173856
She would literally be a bronze in Rune btw (Melvie)

they weren't kidding when they said lamp was bad

>>534173856
Best theory is that she was originally supposed to be a neutral leggo but then KMR shat the bed.

>>534174052
maybe portal had some lego that had to be pushed back so they got her instead

>>534173921
Apollo doesn’t even do shit against beryl
The only answer is to board spam back

>>534174156
these were all mirrors

>>534174010
its worse than face but even that is bad

I wanna try dirt Runs but I have 0 Lilanthims. Is it safe to craft her, with the assumption that dirt will get more support and be more viable next set?

>>534174238
>zombieman whole board still up
wtf

Itt's seriously all mirrors...

>>534173856
>her fanfare is not that great
but this is wrong
her fanfare is very great and she doesn't give up any stats for it

>>534173856
portal was obviously meant to be a control class with artifact cannon and fuck tons of board control
and in a 10+ turn grind game a 3pp draw 4 is incredible
problem is rune existing completely shuts down any attempt at a slower gameplan so she becomes unusable

>>534174574
A ruby is like that. Once you hit sapphire it’s all sword and rune

>>534174729
this is sapphire

>>534173856
3pp 3/3 draw 1 would be played in basically every deck other than maybe sword that has a 3pp 4/4 draw 2.

You fucking shit on me now

>>534173805
Chesspieces

https://youtu.be/-l-PHJG-fcM
Is Dirt Rune secretly OP?

>>534175004
eudie would be an instant 3x in sword

>>534175358
No rush
No followers generated for Gildaria
No ward
Eudie is actually not good enough for sword

i don't want to play anymore now

>>534175532
literally all I play is sword, and I would play like 4 copies of eudie if I could.

>>534174010
I refuse to believe they didn't make ramp bad on purpose
Imagine playtesting this deck alongside rune and saying "yeah the decks are balanced ship it"

Personally I think blasting sperm inside constructs and letting billions die is the best decision to make for a man.

they finally release english edition

Legends Rise and Infinity Evolved are basically two halves of a single set, so Omen 3.0 will likely be the first "proper" expansion.

>>534176282
>halves
Quarters. Just two more sets until we finish accumulating what we should have had on launch day

>>534176226
>waiting on replacement debit card from bank (some fucker stole it the day after buying crystals from Cygames/Xsolla)
>card shop of choice restocked Gods of the Arcana code
>they're already sold out
Grim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe7ZFw3F2g8
HELP, the auto translation is really BAD!

Lilith should gain sevo effect
Follower Strike: deal X damage and gain +X/+X if the target is killed
X is this follower's attack
and the animation should be her sending a heart and a kissing sound
would make her a true succubus
and you could have denegerates that let her feed off their followers until she becomes a 21/21 so she can rape the enemy leader

>>534176282
It better come with nerfs too
Gut valse, rose rush and amalia’s base stats please

Horse gyarus playing Shadowverse World Beyond but just the park part
https://youtu.be/QZTFh0Npj2U?si=tcojrC-uVsHexHrw

>>534176282

>>534176606
cypopular!

>>534176679
I wonder what the point of that was, it wasnt really a good ad for the game

>>534176679
shut up umanigger, no one likes your 3Dslop

>>534176630
Roach goes face.
You win.

>>534176679
It's better than if they had actually played cards.

If i want to get to Master to chill on a stable meta next set as quickly as possible what deck i should make?

They will NOT make me roll for Galmoo's alt art/background like they did with Feetlene...

>>534177451
aggro abyss

>>534177451
Aggro Abyss, it's also strong enough to get diamond and maintain it even

>>534177451
Apiss aggro
Farms roaches and runes. Slightly unflavored against sword but it's still decent match up.
And deck is guaranteed to stick next expansion since it threatens lethal on turn 5.

>>534177796
>threatens lethal on turn 5
if opp is afk yeah
also the deck is worse if you don't have a paypig leader, the default femboy demon gives away your gameplan

Smartest swordbab
https://files.catbox.moe/6fj4xs.mp4

>>534177939
why would you even play abyss without luna or cerb

i am dumb, where is the lethal?

if your take two deck doesn't have at least 8 golds/legendaries, your draft bricked.

>>534178456
mummy crash into 2 health guys x2
spell on 3 health guy
evo bat
bat and araragi face

>>534178456
Evolve bat

>>534176679
umazing

>>534178620
Not enough shadows. Need to do spell face and trade bat instead.

>>534178620
how you get enough necro to have both mummy with storm?

>>534178620
Not enough shadow

>>534178745
>>534178764
>>534178739
NTA, just do it in a different order.

>>534178456
bat evo and trade into the 4/3
mummy and trade into a 2/2
razory face
mummy into another 2/2
hit face

hello??? where are the events????

bragposting my first 7 win draft
turns out triple otohime just solos, swordbabbies were not prepared

>>534178865
your Take 2?

>>534178851
There is no other order for the actions he listed. He needs to trade the bat.

>>534178851
bro

>>534178927
not an event
requires currency to enter more than once
even grand prix gives you three runs

>>534179045
It's unironically crazy how retarded some of you are.

>>534179098
You needed to TRADE THE BAT, retard
>>534178856

>>534179087
stop being poor

this is why roach will never get nerfed
People are too fucking retarded and can't do literal 1+2+1+3

>>534179098
Why is it always the retard who says shit like this

>>534179263
Hmmm, but what if I swap the order of the addition? Will I get a different result?

>>534178456
RoS a 2/2 ward
evo bat, trade into 4/3 ward
drop mummy, trade into last ward
drop second mummy
face with mummy and gravy
pass turn, baito lethal

>>534178456
>People here acting as if this is some crazy puzzle
I'm starting to understand why people here complain about the meta 24/7.

>>534179316
I wonder if everyone here who calls others retards and have the "I'm not like you losers" attitude is also a retard

>>534178456
evo bat hit 4/3, 6 shadows
summon mummy hit one of the 2/2, 3 shadows
use rage on face, 4 shadows
summon last mummy to trade with 2/2,
hit face with araragi

have you started saving?

>>534179204
i've got 4k crystals sitting in my account
still not an event

>>534179510
stfu retard

>>534178456
trade evo bat and mummy, razor one, mummy and gravy to face and end turn for 1(cool)

I can make 2 leggos to get a set of 3 and mostly have a deck
aragavy, or zwei? Or maybe karula + orchis or aria + titania to get 2x of each

>>534179657
You’d kill with balto crest too
It’s babby tier puzzle

>>534177796
Aggro Abyss farms Rune? I'm interested...

>>534179392
Heh rumao

>>534179263
I can, it just takes me my entire turn

>>534179795
zwei is trash

I missed A LOT of lethal because can't count under pressure

Design her next card that will save the meta

Give me advanced lethal puzzles for a high IQ shadowbab like myself. No roachnigger shit though.

>>534180118
Fanfare: Deal x amount to enemy target.
X equals to the amount of times bats have been summoned this match

Evolution: heal x amount to yourself.

>>534180118
that's impossible, abyss will never be chemo and aggro will always be cancer.

>>534180354
Aggro is honest and saves us from dogshit like Rune

>>534180118
Fanfare: Drain the semen from all enemies.

>First 7-win in take two with sw*rd
Marie is such an easy slut

I love playing espada

I miss my nigga

>>534180878
She looks cute and pure

>>534180118
2 mana 2/2
Deal 1 damage to enemy when bat enters your field
Evolve: summon 2 bats then deal damage to enemy equal to number of bats on your field

>>534179597
chat is this real

nah I'm the only non retard in this thread
I'm a double alpha
I'm 12 feet tall
I have a 12 pack
I make 12 figures
and my 2 dicks are 12 inches each
you are all maggots compared to me

Forte is such qtie shame that she is stuck with meme craft and I barely see her

>>534181080
dragonGOD...

>>534180984
Should've mentioned that the passive effect is to the enemy face while the evolve effect is to any target to be clearer.

>>534180660
there has never been a single time in the history of card games where someone has went "wow, i'm sure glad there's a lot of aggro on ladder". aggro is just as bad as rune and kills certain archetypes from existing if you don't run aggressive anti aggro tools that tank your other matchups.

just because you auto win on turn 5 doesn't mean that's better than rune auto winning on turn 10, if anything that's worse because players have no chance at going under the deck and auto lose if they don't draw their cards that stabilize. roach is the chemo to rune, aggro is cancer.

>>534181195
I see her most games because I'm dumb enough to play dragon and even dumber to play face dragon

>>534180118
2 mana 1/1.
When a bat enters the field, deal 1 damage to both leaders and give it storm.
Evolve: summon 2 bats.
Bampi evo + the 2-bat spell would then deal a balanced 8 face damage on 4pp.

>>534180118
2pp 1/1
Fanfare: Summon a Bat
Evolve: Summon a Bat. Give all Bats Barrier and Storm.

>>534181195
You can still play forte
From playing take 2 intimidate is uninteractive bullshit that can fly in constructed

>>534181264
>kills certain archetypes from existing
Like Rune? Love my aggrobros. They need handless mechanics back.

>>534181535
I love strong aggro because it kills degenerate comboniggers.
t. Control enjoyer

>>534144651
What is digi memory and how did it get killed

I love playing aggro so much bros...

>>534181293
It's a shame that she isn't even good in Lamp.

will this have a bikini fairy?

>>534181684
>tfw we will never get a summer/bikini set in SV2

Aggro decks are some of the most thin skinned shitters out there.

Moment you explode their board they auto fucking leave.

>>534181535
lamp and forest get fucked over harder than rune. rune has so much healing and grea kills a lot of momentum if you miss gravy. rune is one of the best decks against aggro, even ward haven has a harder time against it ever since rune started using edelweiss.

>>534181684
ALICE WHEN

Aggro is the chemo that shadoba needs. Chemo hurts you, it harms you, but ultimately it can save you.

>>534181264
I don't care whatever the fuck you think FUCK RUNENIGGERS AND KILL THEM ALL!

Why is bampy the face of aggro anyway?

>>534181851
We need her back.

>>534144651
>I liked digimon memory system
Lmao yeah my friend and I were baited into the game due to that too. We thought it was so cool and innovative but of course the entire game just revolves around erasing it.
>BSS
I only played during the first 2 sets but that game was unironically kino. I tried organizing a local community but it failed due to our game store fucking is over.

>>534180792
Can she drain it from allies (me) instead?

>>534181789
Aggro players are the League of Legends players of card games.

>>534181932
dumb girls always need easy mode decks so their shimps give them shekels

>>534181932
She was the most iconic card in the old bat aggro deck.

>>534173856
Eudie would be god-tier in dragon

>>534181932
Absolutely bullshit card that just steamrolled games with bullshit like double Bampi or Bampi into Veight. Also, her leader was free (rupees) and extremely popular so everyone saw that stupid face all the time.

>>534181932
Evil aggro blood deck that needed to be corrected

>>534181932
Low IQ aggro players were drawn to Vampy as a leader while gigachad control players stuck with Urias. It might sound like I'm shitposting but if you were going up against Vampy it was seriously aggro almost every time before they started adding more leaders. It's like how Rowen became the face of memes while Forte players were tryhard fucks.

>>534170658
>>534170658
>>534170658

Love your aggrobros

>>534182605
Is that adult bamby?

>>534182365
Oh, the WB equivalent is how most Nio players seem to play aggro while most Cerb players are midrange. You can mulligan off their leader choice and be correct most of the time.

>>534182960
But I didn't roll Cerb...

>>534182778

>>534182535
Ibuki's anus is so cute

>>534182880
NIO NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Eudie deliberately gives you bad advice to make you more dependent on her.

>>534184246
That's good advice though.

>rune gets to 10pp
>SATAN
>DCLIMB
>PLAYS THE 5pp 9/6 DEAL 6 to 2+FACE
>DCLIMB
>PLAYS THE 5pp 9/6 DEAL 6 to 2+FACE
>DCLIMB
>10/10 STORM GOES FACE
he had no evo and I was behind 2 wards bigger than 6 and still OTK'd me

You should be thanking sword for keeping the roaches in check.

>>534185064
very skilled and high IQ gameplay.

>>534185245
but the hags are the ones with chainsaws

>>534185064
your fault for not ending the game t9. nexto

So which of dragon’s archetypes will the omen girl be a part of?

where bread

>>534185352
Compared to Ward Haven? Yes

>>534185379
im playing ward and he had 2 williams

>>534185459
she has her own which flopped on both her sv1 releases

>>534185245
How come gildaria became a smash hit with the japanese community?

>>534180118
Vania, Darkness Descendent
>2PP 2/1
>Fanfare: Summon a forest bat.
>Evo: Transform into "Vania, Blood's Wrath"
>Super Evo: Transform into "Vania, Bloodkin's Beloved"
Vania, Blood's Wrath
>4/3
>Summon 2 forest bats and deal 2 damage to self. All forest bats have Storm
Vania, Bloodkin's Beloved
>5/4
>Summon 3 forest bats and heal X where X is the number of forest bats on the field, all forest bats have ward and must be targeted if able.

>>534185939
She's cute.

pulled a rose queen and amataz do i just make the tier 3 deck

I think sword is actually trash in T2

>>534185939
sword is the most popular deck and gildaria is the best card in it...

>>534185939
cute lil hat

Remove aura from dirt stacks, niggermura.

>>534186224
they had to commit a lot (1 mana card that cycles) to get their dirt, it wouldn't be fair if your 7 mana legendary 4/2 killed it.

>>534186224
>>534186327
hi newfriends

>>534186224
retard
they should absolutely remove the engage on it thoughbeit

>>534186443
I played SV1 back in the day, retard. Dirt had no protection back then and I could easily destroy it with Emeralda or banish it with Odin.

>>534186224
deal but we remove storm from the game.

>>534184246
>opp finally floods board after a long game
>I spam emotes and play 3 invasions
>opp instantly concedes
>I didn't draw any raiders
Bluffing is a fun tactic

>>534186673
>remove storm from the game.
The cost for that to be a deal would be completely removing runecraft from the game.

>>534180118
4pp 2/2
Fanfare: Gain crest: Bats gain storm
Evo: Summon 2 bats

>>534186787
no deal, can we settle with removing the sevo ping damage?

>>534171041
>It happens a lot though
Playing control(i assume) which is already taxing sometimes, on top of fatigue of the meta. I had a moment like that too today. Missed the easiest lethal, but i decided to play something else instead of just dropping odin. Luckily the op didn't kill me before my next turn. Rune is draining to play against.

Your hatred of sword...goes in here.

>>534186852
i bet its going to be something like that and they include free evo for bats somehow

The real problem with Portal is that it has very low damage from hand potential. For AF they peak at 9 damage for 3 betas and 10 for gundam. For Orchis, it's Orchis + 1 enhanced at turn 9 (the deck is consistent as fuck, you're not getting meme hands with multiple noahs, orchis, enhanced puppet generators, and a target to suicide Lloyd into). The only other class with damage potential as low as Portal's is Haven, but Haven is a defensive class with a lot more defensive options. They either need to fix Portal's horrendous midgame (easily the weakest mid game in the game), or give them ways to increase their reach, especially AF. Not being able to break 10 damage from hand for a slow deck is beyond pathetic. The class is all about set up, yet the set up is never rewarded.

>>534186965
Sexo pose

>POV: You spent 10.5k vials on Ch*ron and then built your entire deck around it

>>534187106
their damage from hand is higher than sword, mech sevo is more than albert sevo
The problem is turn 10 is after coc dclimb in half the games, and after albert every game

>>534187106
2 betas with 2x 5pp spells is 12 from hand straight through ward
fuck off

>>534186965
Cumming in Gildaria's dumb little hat and making her wear it all day.

>>534187169
b-but nip streamers always get the perfect hands? was /svg/ lying to me?

>>534187106
?
gundam sevo is 13 damage

>>534187252
>mecha sevo
Portal is the most evo reliant class to not die in the fucking game. Portal can barely keep up with sword using 4 evos, while sword barely has to spend one. Portal doesn't have infintie rush and free stuff.

>>534187276
>just draw this exodia, while surviving board spam and not making alpha or gamma, in a class with bad card draw

I'm done with this shitty mode, everyone and their mom just play their curve as if it was constructed while I have to play with some garbage shit

>>534187169
Still not as bad as this

>>534187106
the real issue with portal is that they dont have many good plays without using an evo point

>>534187562
it needs few more sets to be actually diverse and not just ranked 2.0

>>534185939
Cute, kemonomimi, gap moe etc...

>people are shilling aggro saying shit like "it's good vs rune"
>.. i'll try it i guess
>go 1-6
>hmm maybe i'm doing something wrong
>check out aggrotard gameplay
>opp plays sagelight into sagelight, concede
>opp plays annegrea into norman, concede

amazing runenigger counter totally works
also fag is bouncing around ruby and sapphire btw

>>534187625
Where did he go...

>>534187625
seriously, who the fuck gave Rune the ability to heal for 36?

>>534187552
I agree that portal has a lot of problems, but I don't think damage from an empty board is one of them

>>534187529
How do you survive to turn 10 with sevo with portal? I'm 100% convinced this general is just entirely swordjeets. Other classes don't have every card interacting with board for free without evo like sword you know. Every single fucking artifact play requires evo.

>>534187829
Rune would auto lose to any aggro and midrange deck without healing

>>534187901
This is the part where the swordjeet mentions Karula. There's virtually no world where Karula isn't using sevo the turn it drops down against any board class. It's only a "free play" when you use him to for beta as a finisher, or against a passive class that doesn't have a threatening board.

Can someone explain the design philosophy behind rally and spellboost? What is the tradeoff....like ramp works for Dragon because high risk (losing tempo) for high reward (ramp). Necromancy is a finite resource that you need to spend strategically. Why do Sword and Rune just get mechanics that only have pure upside, reward them for playing the game normally, and can't be countered or played around?

>>534187901
Portal has a lot of rush cards so they don’t have to always evolve. Anything puppets, firestorm duo, synchronous hearts, etc…
Take the hybrid pill

>>534187735
Aggro only beats Rune if they brick, that's how they beat most decks really. Roach is the true Rune killer but most people are playing Sword so focusing on taking out Rune isn't the greatest idea.

>>534187979
Combo deck losing to aggro is bad because...?

>>534188167
how many puppets do you need to beat amalia

>>534186876
No. At least delete spellboost as a mechanic from the game.

>>534187901
>2/2 with puppet
>2/1 with bug puppet
>2/2 with bane puppet
>amulet for puppets
>puppet

>>534188167
Ah yes, Hybrid, the only deck worse than pure artifact.
>deck is consistent due to no draw
>pollute it even more with a different archetype
>now you're stuck without enough gears and not enough puppets
Also, puppet loses to sword still. Puppets can't answer Amalia without Orchis.

>>534187979
Good, they should have bad matchups. Just like control decks autolose to Rune.

Did I deserve it?

>>534188352
>just have all those puppets and a gundambro
How are you making a gundam while you're playing all those puppet generators? The original post was "13 damage gundam".

>spend 1000 rupies in take two
>get matched against 2 swords with constructed decks and lose
Tanoshi

>>534188338
Dirt Rune runs AG and Kuon even though it only has 1 card to boost, the mechanic is no the problem...

>>534180881
I remember not caring too much about this card, but then I used him in an Atomy deck, and he became amazing.

Are you bad or average if your wins average around 2-4 for Take 2?

>>534188528
Good job anon

>>534188570
>Loosing to sword in take two
Lmao. Draft better.

>>534187735
>>people are shilling aggro saying shit like "it's good vs rune"
That's how one would assume it to work, and if the game were well designed that's exactly how it should work.
The reality is that this is not the case.

>>534188394
amalia vs liam is one of the biggest examples of how pushed sword is.

>>534188779
unredeemable trash, just uninstall

>>534188952
Also Amalia vs 9pp do nothing.
Also Samurai vs Mino.

>>534187169
Unbelievable how often midrange bricks considering how much 2/3 drops it runs

>>534185908
Disdain didn't flop the first time around. It was pretty meta iirc. She even had to be nerfed.

>>534187979
You could argue that the heal for 12 they had, was kind of ok, because of cost and the fact they had to chose teh effect. But the new heal for 8 on a single card is ridiculous and you know it.

>>534188952
It's beyond absurd that puppets need sevo+waste their wincon to answer a play sword invested nothing into. Imagine if every game sword had to sevo Albert and trade with him against a commonly play gold rarity card.

>>534188504
What control decks? The only one people still play besides Rune is Ward Haven, and that matchup can go either way since Rune decks stopped using William

>>534188952
Also coachwoman vs bonermancer, and Jeno vs Medusa (gold card btw)

>>534185459
Disdain dragon, aka deal damage to your own followers to gain benefits if they survive. Combat damage counts iirc, so you can just trade to trigger this.

>>534189048
liam is 10pp on top of summoning 1 less follower than amalia and they only have ward if you evolve them

>>534189146
Galmieux was an insta win vs like Shadow which ran Belenus at the time which pinged on LW when she had no limit on how many times she'd throw 3 damage to board and face whenever she was damaged

>>534189232
>since Rune decks stopped using William
some did but some still use 1 of him just to fuck with you

>>534188952
Zirconia is the only ward (card archetype not keyword) that has 4/4 stats. Every other was has 3/3 or lower stats. All the wards that cost more than her have lower stats too.

>>534189232
That's because rune hunted them to extinction, you retarded nigger. If rune actually had bad matchups so it wasn't half the fucking ladder, control decks would actually be playable.
Also I literally just had a runenigger play three Williams back to back three games ago. Go fuck yourself.

>>534189065
That actually doesn't happen if your deck is built properly unlike the vtuber in the pic who cut all its 2 drops.

>>534189429
>4/4 stats
10/10 in practice

>>534189429
Zirconia is a 4/4/4 do nothing, literally worse than fighter.

sword is a 40 card do nothing deck

>>534189645
Alouette is 5pp 2/4 do nothing, yet swordjeets swear she's the strongest card in the game.

>>534189645
>literal 4pp win the game unless the enemy has a perfect answer on curve
>do nothing
Kill yourself, downplaying swordnigger.

>>534187735
I still have higher winrate with aggro than midrange....

>>534189601
cute pic

>>534189456
nta but i don't think you understand that midsword can grind every control deck other than rune out of the game. so no, control decks aren't playable if rune vanishes. gildaria giving sword up to 3 extra board clear sevos is so gigantic, it's so much value that control decks legitimately can't compete because gildaria is a game ending threat on top of being a clear and yurius shuts out games too if the opponent runs out of answers to all your threats. even something like amalia is a game ending threat if it stays on the board.

>>534189968
Gildaria should also be deleted from the game to be desu. Retarded fucking card.

>>534189801
Alouette has a fanfare which gives you resources. She does something.

You know guys, one thing I am sad about is that Cygames didn't make an interesting card I was waiting for ages ago.
It's basically something like current Darks Side. That works like Dark Side, but if the target it a specific card it makes it morph into a special token card, like a powered up version with unique card art and effect.

>>534189893
>no Norman
>lose
>plays Norman
>heal for 8
>you lost
You didn't outskilled rune, he lost to his deck
>higher winrate with aggro
Because you are a retard who can't pilot into a cerberus nuke somehow

>>534190039
it's insane because cards like jeno which is amazing removal and a game ending threat got cut because sword just has so many other good cards. an actual control sword list would destroy every other control deck so hard it's not even funny.