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>Lost Records: Bloom & Rage
(LR: B&R) - A spiritual successor to the original LiS, made by Don't Nod (DN). Set in Velvet Cove during the summer of 1995, it follows Swann Holloway and her misfit friends: Nora, Autumn, and Kat. They form a band, hang out, and navigate the complexity of being gay. But something dark shatters their innocence and 27 years later, they reunite to confront the past. It’s nostalgic, aching, and supernaturally sapphic in all the best ways.
Steam: (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902960)

>Life is Strange
(LiS) - An episodic narrative adventure game by developer Don't Nod (DN). Set in the fictional coastal town of Arcadia Bay, Oregon, it follows Max Caulfield, a shy photography student who discovers she can rewind time and perhaps more pressingly, that she is hella gay. At the heart of the story is Max’s reconnection with her estranged best friend, the rebellious, blue-haired Chloe Price. Their relationship becomes the game’s emotional core as they search for the truth behind the disappearance of Rachel Amber. What starts as a teenage reunion becomes a haunting, queer exploration of grief, love, and the impossible choices we make for the people we can’t live without.
Steam: (https://store.steampowered.com/sub/56692/)

>Other LiS titles:
Before the Storm (BtS) - (http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620)
Remastered - (https://store.steampowered.com/sub/440247/)
True colors (TC) - (http://store.steampowered.com/app/936790)

Discussion of similar games is welcome!
>Commonly discussed non-LiS titles:
Lake - (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118240)
Gone Home - (https://store.steampowered.com/app/232430)
Fear the Spotlight - (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1959390)

DEbros... not again...

>>534095723
At last, something actually wholesome

Give me Pricefield, or give me death. Accept no substitutions for the The OTP.

>>534095723
Maxine, my beloved

New thread already??

Let us discuss Gone Home.

>>534096669
DN made a better ship already.
A ship that actually existed in a game, rather than just being present by implication ala pricefield.
I love pricefield, but Snora is clearly an attempt by DN to do a sapphic relationship right for once.
>>534097119
Lots of posts in the last thread by the /v/ tourists having a meltdown and boxing shadows.
I look forward to when we slow down again. More than one post every few hours is slightly unpleasant.

>>534096249
we have a lot

>>534097345
I've never played it :)

>>534097424
Why do you want the thread to be slow? Is it because you don't bring any worthwhile discussion to it?

>>534097947
cause fatso got tired of getting up at 4AM to bake a new one

>>534097947
Nora's piercing:
Eyebrow>Nose>Lip

>>534095723

>>534097564
Literally no one has

>>534097345
Its a cool game and a perfect example of show, don't tell with the environment, with a very soulful ending.

>>534098414
*Eyebrow>Nose>None>Lip

>>534097562
Max looks irresistibly kissable in this game

>>534097345
It's a fantatisc single playthrough. Still holds up if you're willing to take it slow, pay attention and examine. The story only reveals itself properly if you do. It's magnificently queer and I left it off for years because of the hate /v/ had for it back then.

>>534097947
You wouldn't know this, tourist. But /lisg/ was at its most comfy when we averaged one post every 2-3 hours.
>>534098414
Nose > brow >>> lip

>>534099289
I miss the lul.
It had much higher quality discussion, albeit slower. But /lisg/ has outlasted hundreds of lesser Generals.

>>534098414
Depends on the nose piercing. Septum piercings are fuck ugly and trashy on everyone and anyone.

>>534099583
stop samefagging

>>534095607 (OP)
Remove the remastered version and put back LiS2, it might not be perfect but it's a solid game and miles ahead of D9 slop work

>>534099289
Why wait that long to bump with fanart when you can be actively discussing stuff in the thread? Stagnancy is not comfy however you spin it. Is it the same with you? Nothing worthwhile to bring to the table?

Best girl.

Nora really is the only natural LI in lost records. Autumn is too big sister and Kat is too little sister. It's just really weird trying to see a pairing with them.

>>534100235
Reminds me of a female dwarf from a fantasy game.

>>534100336
I can see it with Kat, the whole tragic gay romance trope. But Autumn certainly doesnt really gel.

>>534100529
Kek

https://mazzus.gumroad.com/l/KintsugiLiS-Chapter01

>>534099892
Anon, that 'slow and comfy' crap is just that same schizo who was bumping the thread solo for years. Then DE dropped, newfags flooded in, and her brain short-circuited from the emotional overload. Now she's back trying to drag it all back to the 'old vibes'

>>534100665
Autumn as a partner makes more sense when they're adults since she's more laid-back and honest with herself (her bisexuality). She's also the one that's got most of her shit together, she just needed to move on properly.

How many have been hit by the layoffs this time around? Has D9 updated their employee count yet?

>>534101459
The fact she's single handled carried the general is very respectable desu. And I agree, the general was better when we didn't have those two seething parasites running rent free here

>>534101459
I'm trawling slowly through the archives and I can see that, no change in their discussion style as well; close minded and often only reinforcing what they want to hear. It's a shame a lot of other notable posters left. The general has really been stagnant for years.

>>534102296
We had Rachel schizo back then though.
In fairness, they're probably just DE Schizo now.

>>534102662
>/v/ tourists are back
>rachel schizo is back
see, everyone is back!
but seriously though, you might wanna get that head checked, girl

>>534102525
Now you can see what a shock DE’s announcement was. But everything bloomed after that, and over a year later and we’re still vibing stronger and moving faster

>>534103796
And completely paper thin and soulless outside of dedicated old guard.

>>534104707
cry more

>>534103796
>But everything bloomed after that
Thanks to Lost Records delivering what Square couldn't in their incompetence.

Are you still around Drawanon?

>>534103796
No slowing down now - big things are brewing

>>534106016
A huge turd that will kill the franchise for good? Thats for sure

>>534106103
/lisg/ will likely outlive the series anyway.

>>534106103
they'll shove shitfield in there and you'll lap it up like it's gourmet

>>534106724
I'm not going to buy it anon, I'll wait for a proper crack if it features Chloe again but I'm not holding my breath

>>534107002
Pretty sad, really. You couldn't care less about the franchise or if it's any good. You just showed up for your precious little fave

>>534107405

Underrated Character.

>>534107002
She'll likely be in it for about 5 minutes or worse, she shows up briefly in another nightmare sequence but it's Safi torturing Max with her and the people that died in Arcadia Bay

>>534107649
More like

>>534107405
I care about the franchise quality, that's why I avoided DE and bought Lost Records instead. If Square wants my pockets, they'll have to earn the right to do so

>>534108307
This but with Deck Nine soon

>>534108307

>>534108272
if r/pricefield were a person...

>>534108789
Now lets see how Square London is doing:
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/square-enixs-european-branch-reports-worsening-financial-losses-compared-to-previous-year/

Max and Chloe breaking up is a fairly realistic decision and a valid one given what they went through. It also makes sense for them to do so as a way to process their trauma and grief. It's also a good way for them to discover themselves and find if they have an identity independent of each other which they can work on and build an even stronger bond.

>inb4 D9 and SE are shit writers and didn't handle it well, this and that and they hate them blah blah blah
We know, we've been over that. Get new material. Pricefielders, are you able to look past that and reason why they shouldn't go on a break/breakup with each other, go soul searching, resolve their baggage and realize they actually love each other? No, Michel's tweets are just one interpretation of their relationship so don't build on that. Answering unreasonably will only confirm your mental state and maturity.

>>534109946
>Max and Chloe breaking up is a fairly realistic decision and a valid one given what they went through
It was poorly written and shat all over Chloe's character development as it was established in LiS1 and LiS2 with dumb retcons. You cant make that excuse when DE really want the player to stop giving a shit about Chloe in favour of their brand new OCs like Safi or Amanda, when the whole point of that ending was Max and Chloe moving along each other despite the odds, making peace with David, going into art galleries in New York..

>>534110376
A lot can happen during the intervening years leading up to DE, a break up is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. It's one interpretation but are you able to see that? Don't regurgitate the same response now, you didn't even answer the previous question.

>>534112396
If that was clear, they should have been honest from the get go with DE, rather than play coy around the whole Bae breakup because it would have costed them preorder money. Your argument is moot and worthless, and it should be mocked and laughted at in the same way we do with snake oil salesmen

>Be mature and reasonable about this
>Also I will refer to you as a collective boogeyman I've made to cry about
Schizo behavior

>>534112835
You shouldn't deflect and shift the blame. That's two questions you haven't answered. Are you going to answer reasonably? Also I'm curious, have you played the game and/or watched a playthrough of it?

A thought for our fallen sons and daughters o7

>>534112990
Thank you for confirming your mental state and maturity

>>534113554
No great loss.

>>534109717
Word of advice: picking fights over something irrelevant is a losing game - no matter how it ends. There he >>534113554 goes making the same mistake again. And the result will be more crying, just as usual

>Max and Chloe breaking up is a fairly realistic decision and a valid one given what they went through.
Not for how the story, characters, themes and everything else has been set up. Max already loses Chloe in one ending, the one in which she sacrifice her to avoid the Storm and keep the slowly decaying status quo of Arcadia Bay going. You'd also agree with me that flattening differences between both endings is a very bad way to make a sequel of a choose your own adventure game.

>It also makes sense for them to do so as a way to process their trauma and grief
It make also sense to process that trauma alongside each other and with other characters in a similar fashion, rather than fall apart. Life is Strange 2 show how they made peace with a less paranoid David Madsen and they go to visit him once in a while in Arizona, which clearly is a way to process grief and trauma without falling apart. Nobody expect things to go smoothly, Dontnod showed their bond to be strong enough to persevere further.

>It's also a good way for them to discover themselves and find if they have an identity independent of each other
They can do that without being attached to each other like twins. Hell, people were originally more than accepting to see Max and Chloe in a distant relationship and then have a final meeting. To pretend otherwise comes across as very close minded and limited.

>inb4 D9 and SE are shit writers and didn't handle it well, this and that and they hate them blah blah blah
Mocking the very solid criticisms that have been lifted against the whole setting, from the dev silence, lies, out of character behaviour and poor writing doesn't make you clever.

>>534114328
Yeah, I should ignore the DE troll more often, nothing productive has came out of those discourses.

>>534114328
You take yourself way too seriously over a silly joke

>>534113554
Thats brutal. Have they updated their number status on Linkedin yet?

>>534114456
Appreciate your opinions but you didn't answer the question, you're reinforcing your beliefs on why they should work things out together and avoid a break up altogether. Are you able to answer the actual question without bringing your prejudices into the picture?

>>534115053
Yeah, Deandra. The only person from the list who had a say in the whole Pricefield decision. Got promoted

>>534098990
Literally no one has resisted

>>534119796
God, I'd sell my soul to feel Max breathing this close

>>534115360
Yup, she's writing those Jude-style romances at CDPR

>>534095607 (OP)
Reminder that LR will never be a franchise game, and baker anon openly admitted he wants /lisg/ to cease to exist and it to be sapphic games general, so much so they can’t even include the other two actual franchise games in the OP.

>>534120985
sexy max

>>534109946
You’re right, but you can’t say it here because of the mob mentality of Pricefield shippers. Chloe and Max were literal teenagers when they went through a traumatic event and in ten years a lot changes. I agree with the sentiment of their fans that it could’ve been better expanded upon, but a high school relationship that dealt with a lot of trauma not working out is not the most unrealistic thing in the world.
>>534112835
Devs were never dishonest. DE was stated to be a Max game, never a Pricefield game. People were delusional to think Chloe would be in it either way considering most people here forget the first game had another ending where Chloe dies, D9 and SE were not writing two completely different branches to appease shippers. At most people should’ve expected a long distance relationship but devs not revealing the status of a relationship is not dishonesty, the trailers blatantly showed the game would be about Max.

>>534097345
I played it recently for the first time and I really liked it. The story keeps you guessing, but it still manages a satisfying conclusion. The storylines for each family member were good, even if the sister's story was the main one. Highly recommend it.

>>534119796
Steamy and suggestive

>>534134003
>I agree with the sentiment of their fans that it could’ve been better expanded upon
No disagreement there, a majority of the fans, pricefielder or not, would want to know more about how their relationship worked; all the good and bad parts. I just find it disappointing that this branch of the fandom is the most narrow-minded and incapable of proper discussion, taking umbrage at the slightest suggestion that their ship, and by extension the characters themselves, can be interpreted in different ways.

>>534115360
I mean current layoffs, Deandra was fired in 2023

>Devs were never dishonest
Bold fucking lie, you two guys are like the worst attempt at trolling I've ever seen kek. If they weren't dishonest, Andres Suarez the dev guy wouldn't have need to lie about never doing the fans wrong on Twitter

>>534119796
Thank god modders are doing gods work to fix D9 mistakes

>>534146221
They did the fans wrong for releasing a game based around Max? How does that work?

>>534112835
Stop arguing with that retard. The people who argue about how realistic the breakup was never do so in good faith, and they mainly picked Bay

Engagin with you its a waste of time since you are being so obviously dense and dishonest, so whoever is reading please ignore the two troll posts, they are juat seeking attention.

>>534147158
I doubt think they even care about Life is Strange in the first place, they are just here seeking attention and we shouldn't encourage them

Looks like that lonely fool seething about Pricefield woke up and started samefagging angry posts

>>534147158
A canon choice by any means according to Michel. Why do you dislike discussing alternate scenarios about the franchise? Is it because you're incapable or allergic to healthy discussions?

>>534100235
Best protagonist.
Nora is best girl.
>>534100336
Massively agree.
I honestly would not be surprised if Kat and Autumn being romancable was more of a last minute inclusion. Their characters just do not have LI energy and fall massively flat by comparison to Nora.
>>534102296
>The fact she's single handled carried the general is very respectable desu
I appreciate that anon.
But go back ~3 years or so and /lisg/ was just a super comfy place. Getting up in the middle of the night to make a new thread or keeping the thread bumped during work didn't bother me because it was just such a nice place and had a bunch of cool regulars in it.
I hope we can get back to that soon.
>>534102662
That actually makes a bunch of sense.
Rachel schizo was obsessive, clearly mentally unwell, constantly samefagged to make it looked like someone agreed with them and lacked basic reading comprehension. That sounds like the DE schizo to me.
>>534133558
I have openly talked about renaming the general to something like 'Sapphic Narrative Games General' for the better part of 2 years now.
That is not some big dark secret. It is something that anyone who is not some unwelcome tourist from /v/ would know about. At this point, that change is basically inevitable.
>>534147167
Based Max and Chloe cleaning up the filth from the junkyard.

>>534134003
>Devs were never dishonest. DE was stated to be a Max game
Yeah, I didn't get that shit either. They literally showed everything in the announcement and that 18-minute gameplay video - all the characters and what the game's gonna be. Maybe there was also some short TikTok with the cast. I watched it back then and posted all that here. Got the usual brainrot replies like in that Joyce’s ring screenshot - 'fuck off, you don't get it, it was only Bay timeline shown' etc.
Like those idiots want to be fooled

>>534146041
Didn't she leave on her own terms? I mean she ended up much higher

>>534148390
>Rachel schizo was obsessive, clearly mentally unwell, constantly samefagged to make it looked like someone agreed with them and lacked basic reading comprehension
Not surprised if the second anon is still them all along using a different range to write, because the style of both looks fairly similar

>>534147684
>you're incapable or allergic to healthy discussions?
Healthy discussions require healthy brains, anon

>>534119796
Intimacy and understanding. Loved how they complemented each other.

>>534149763
>Max can break Amanda's consent by romancing her alternative self when she get refused in one timeline
>merge happens and Amanda call thet bullshit out
>games treats it as the equivalent of a slap on the wrists, still has Amanda asking to win her back like no biggie
The writers didn't learn shit from the first game themes and character development

>>534115053
Yes, from 75 to 73.

>>534149763
Tranny kill yourself

>>534151863
Someone dropped a perfect pic for this kind of thing in the last thread.
Take your meds, Francesco

Gwen makes me wish I transitioned
She's so cool I'd be so happy if I was half as cool and pretty as her

>>534152541
guess someone is still living rent free inside your head

>>534153521
Based lesbians getting dick fetishist

>>534150212
Low media literacy

>>534152743
Gwen's cool, no doubt about that, but you might wanna think before you do something, lol

>>534155669
Mosh art is so soulful it makes Square afraid to even repost it lmao

New update is up for LR

>>534156324
Finally with the memoir stuff, took them long enough

>>534155527
Oh I won't do anything, it's way too late for me

>>534147684
> pick Bay
> Chloe is dead

Still has strong opinions about the direction the game went with Bae, and Max and Chloe.

Get a life and spend your time more sensible

>>534151320
Just like I mentioned, letting Webb go might be a whole other thing

>>534156541
At least they kept updating the game, if they were still under Square we would still have the characters t-posing or the light still being fucky even after four years

>>534157573
Some guys said it was like six or five people updating their Linkedin profiles

>>534157317
Which is again, a valid canon choice. The game even gives you an option to have a platonic relationship with her if you so choose which is again another valid choice.

>Still has strong opinions about the direction the game went with Bae, and Max and Chloe.
Do you have your own reasonable opinions about the direction they took that's not rooted in hate simply because it doesn't line up with your own vision of the two? Or is it difficult for you to be objective?

>>534157848
Is that still the case with the remastered collection? I never played that one and I looked at some youtube videos and the lighting is really fucked. It's so dark in places

>>534158151
The lightning was fixed in most areas but the subtitles are turbo fucked especially in BTS

>>534157573
True, that probably means they have nothing to co-dev, so he wasn't needed anymore.
Let's face it, their next project is the DE sequel and it has failure written all over it. They're toast.

>>534158542
Thanks. I'm wondering now if they'll even attempt to fix the remaining bugs for the collection coming out

>>534159290
Doubt it. That collection is just a lazy bundle.

>>534159290
You know they won't, it has cheap cashgrab repack written all over it, they just slapp the current version of the games as they currently are and the day is done.

>>534158885
Co-dev has been D9's biggest blunder. They announced it at the same time that article talking about how DE was seen as a large flop for Square and it was obvious they were attempting to have a plan B to avoid another flop. Now that Webb is gone, they won't have much time left before they reach the same fate as OG Telltale

>>534159705
>>534159864
Yeah I'm not optimistic they will with all the layoffs they're going through. They probably don't even have the manpower to do it if they're all supposedly still working in DE2

>>534160089
And they plan to relase it in 2025? There's barely any marketing, and you have to win back a part of the fanbase that has been disillusioned by the first part, it's a uphill battle they can't win at this point if it's as bad as I suspect it will.

They're not releasing the collection + DE2 the same year
In fact I'm sure the collection is the last cashgrab before killing the series

>>534160198
Are they really releasing a game in 2025? I thought it was just a project they're announcing this year. Either way, if it is DE2 then it'll likely be dead in the water since like you said, there's just no buzz around it nor is there engagement with the community. I can't even remember the last time they did community events, it's all just wishing their characters happy birthday lol

>>534079145
I'm aware, just figured to take the opportunity to cry about it since journal was one of my favourite parts of the original and BtS :)

>>534160718
>mfw they change the Max Caulfield Will Return end credits card in the collection to something that confirms DE2 after the game awards

>>534160945
That requires effort, so they won't do it. They just hope to recoup production cost with two games at once because otherwise DE2 can't fit their sales projections now

If SE really killed Deus ex but they'll keep pumping out money for this garbage I'll go full kyoani on them

>>534161268
They're already doing all that with the layoffs and the upcoming books which likely won't sell well imo. Unless there's a hidden deal behind the scenes that we're not privy to, they're not going to recoup any cost at all and will remain a net loss

>>534160732
>Are they really releasing a game in 2025?
Seems like the plan. Pic related also is one of the ones laid off with Webb, and that last greentext anon said we should expect a DLC/relase by this Christmas

Barely any cute artwork is in widescreen resolution viable as a wallpaper ;_;

>>534161758
>hired Dec 2024
>worked on animation
yeah, looks like it

>>534161758
Shit, that is something. Thought it read "To be announced 2025". Can we assume it's almost complete if they've been laid off? I'm not really well informed when it comes to video game development

>>534161804
Ai slop them sis

>>534161541
>they're not going to recoup any cost at all and will remain a net loss
they are already operating at a net loss >>534109717 surprised Kiryu hasn't gone harder on London given how incompetent they are

>>534162143
Likely, but take the "almost complete" as they scrapped the bottom of the barrel to pull out something playable, even if it's as polished as the Remasters were on relase and Aysha's horrid writing is still there

Pricefield aside, was DE that bad?

>>534162673
Yes, yes it was. Even if it had a different protagonist completely separated from Max it would still be a bad game. Felt like a game that had too many writers at once without anyone having a clear idea what they want to do, very disjointed narratively and characters felt fake

>>534162673
Yes. Thematically, it's a rehash of many plot points and characters of the first game but done worse and with even less consistent message to tell. Theme about duality can be interesting to explore but it is done in like the shallowest way possible, think of it as if the original game was Twin Peaks / David Lynch coded, DE is Riverdale coded minus the budget

>>534162673
It only exists because they had that change the environment in real time tech and wrote the story around it, adding Max as bait
I'll give it to the game though, never have I seen a story go that stupid that fast like it did from end of chapter 3 onwards, it's quite something to behold

>>534146221
Please explain how it’s dishonest that trailers showed it was a game about Max…and it was a game about Max. It’s on you for actually believing that the devs would write two very different branches. Never once was there any indicator Chloe would play a big role in DE - you are misconstruing dishonesty with your own personal expectations not being met.

>>534147273
>I doubt think they even care about Life is Strange in the first place
You realize Life is Strange is more than Pricefield, right? The fucking baker of this thread doesn’t even want this place to be Life is Strange general anymore, that’s more of an indicator for not caring about the franchise than people not worshipping a ship from a 10 year old game.

>>534162673
I thought the first two episodes were alright, then it falls off a cliff. I don’t think the writers knew what to do with the mystery, the Max picture was for shock value. However, most people here only look at the game as being bad due to a lack of Pricefield rather than actual poor writing.

>>534163169
>Never once was there any indicator Chloe would play a big role in DE
Excuse me??? What about Joyce's ring theory?? The Chloe-coded mural?? Only a complete clown like you could miss that THEY'RE LITERALLY MARRIED

>>534162673
After the first two chapters its quality declines severely with some strong ideas falling by the wayside e.g. Alderman's "erasure", handling of Max and Safi's powers etc. in favor of rehashing plot points from the first game kind of like how the newer star wars movies did. I think one of the things it has over the first one is how it dealt with the storm, because at least in this one everyone in the university is immobilized and are unable to evacuate due to Safi so it was really up to Max to face her fears, if there was still any, confront the storm head on (hackneyed metaphor for her trauma), actually stop it for once by her own volition and not leave everything to fate.

Again, ignore the two trolls, do not fall for the bait. They love engagement because otherwise they would feel miserable in their IRL lives

>>534163635
Genuine question - where did these theories even come from? Was there ever any legit evidence, or was it just pure cope?

>>534161758
So long Dave.

>>534164309
>was it just pure cope?
yes

>>534168804
>LOOK AT THIS SUBTLE PRODUCT PLACEMENT INSERTED INTO THE GAME!

>>534162167
Those look awful though

God I love Max so much it's unreal

>>534168804
But none of those look like Joyce's ring...

>>534170468
shut up bayster

>>534170598
But they don't...

>>534164309
It was exacerbated by the devs, mainly, three or four of them were going on social media and telling fans that they'd "respected" both endings and to stop believing rumors that Max and Chloe had broken up. Basically they were lying to people to try and make them keep their pre-orders, so people started to cope trying to figure out how Chloe could still be in the picture.

That's a fact the DE shitposters keep trying to gloss over to try and act like shippers deluded themselves; it didn't come out of nowhere, the people working on the game straight up lied to them about what was going on.

>>534170778
>stop believing rumors that Max and Chloe had broken up
quote where they say that??

>>534170873

>>534164309
it's all here lmao:

https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/1dixjya/all_soooo_the_de_ring_thing_again/

enjoy

>>534170958
People not knowing about this really does just prove they're /v/ tourists here to stir up shit.

>>534170958
i read that thread. that's not what he meant. it's ripped outta context, and he clammed up fast once he got what they were actually asking

>>534171110
get your head checked. you're deep-frying in your own paranoia

>>534170963
Sweet Jesus. These people need mandatory treatment, no joke

>>534171554
>that's not what he meant. it's ripped outta context,
Right right, that's why he repeated himself multiple times and only shut up immediately prior to early access dropping

>>534168804
Look at those hands. Just imagine how many squirting orgasms Amanda has

>>534172219
Theorycrafting is fun and all but they take it too far and fall deep into their delusions

>>534170958
Thank you for bringing that out, anon

>>534171554
>that's not what he meant. it's ripped outta context, and he clammed up fast once he got what they were actually asking
Explain pic related, the whole thread was Keno and co arguing about the pricefield dilemma in DE over the National Girlfriend Day post made by Dont Nod, and Andres came into the conversation knowning fully well what they were talking about.

>>534172719
>they take it too far and fall deep into their delusions
Thing is, this fandom does this constantly. It basically runs on delusions

>>534171554
This guy shouldn't have said anything at all. Everytime a D9 dev talked, it made it worse for their game. Post release interview included.
Nothing worked during the marketing phase
as their plan was really just "Max is back".
Then, keeping all the audio files in the advanced access was like the final nail in the coffin, almost sabotage.
There was no winning path for them with that frankenstein of a game.

>>534172965
It was worse when Square tried to strike anyone who shared files that was inside the game from the get go, like leaks from the ending and a post on the Pricefield subreddit that had nothing but just dev interviews kek

>>534172908
that’s how I remembered it too. he was rambling about how he'd pick her, it's not the evil choice and all that fluff. but nothing about her being in the game

>>534172950
For what it's worth, every fandom does at a point. But it's more tiresome in this fandom since the majority are so narrow-mindedly pig headed in a franchise that lends itself to a multitude of different interpretations that everything else is somehow in bad faith if you go against the same old tired conclusions. It can be better but these guys just willingly refuse

>>534172679
No idea about that, but I’m hoping they go all in on their kinks and fetishes in DE2 or whatever DLC’s coming next. It's just begging for it.

Pricefield was a mistake

Making a sequel to a choice based game was a mistake.

Not making Safi romanceable was a mistake

>>534174270
The shippers should’ve listened to the devs wishes of it being a one of done instead of begging for a sequel for years, and the devs shouldn’t have bent the knee for fanservice because they needed a cash grab.

>>534177305
No Kate romance, no Lyla romance and no Riley romance were mistakes.

>>534177305
>She Died

>>534173885
>>534174270
Unironically, you're both right

>>534177562
Devs didn't chose shit, publisher SE saw falling sales and decided to milk Max.

>D9 makes a game where Chloe moves on from Max and dates someone else (based Rachel)
>sells a billion copies
>D9 makes a game where Max moves on from Chloe and dates someone else
>sells zero copies and everyone loses their job, IP possibly dead
Explain this

>>534177910
So what he said

>>534177919
the first one was released in 2017, the second - in 2024

>>534177910
That’s exactly what I said. Pricefield shippers begged for a sequel for years knowing the game explicitly was never intended to have one, but the devs finally gave into their demands when they needed money.

>>534177919
Better soundtrack, I'm serious

>>534178336
lol, no

>>534177919
BtS follwed LiS1. DE followed garbage like BtS, LiS2, and TC

>Blaming the fans
Nobody forced Square and Deck Nine to do this but themselves. True Colors literally exceeded their sales expectations and was a step in the right direction. The fans didn't force them to backtrack and bet all their chips on a half-baked, hollow attempt at wheeling Max back out without half the emotional core of her character.

It's pure corporate bootlicking to pretend fans "forced" them to bank on not only nostalgia, but the most cynically corporate and ill-advised form of it, and anons who peddle this stupidity should be killed with rocks.

>>534177919
You know why.

>>534177305
no

>>534177672
>no Lyla romance and no Riley romance were mistakes
this

>>534177305
True, she had a lot more chemistry with Max than Amanda or Vinh.

>>534178786
So you're admitting and confirming that Max literally cannot exist independent of Chloe? Now level with me here and be reasonable, if DE is basically the same as it is but with a choice for Chloe and Max to be together in a LDR, would your issues be with the narrative, SE and D9's cash grab or both?

>>534179727
>So you're admitting and confirming that Max literally cannot exist independent of Chloe?
I'm saying that as a character she was designed with her and Chloe's relationship intrinsically at the center of what defines her. And Deck Nine naively thought they could brush that to the side and still create an organic character, which was never going to happen - and it showed in DE with a Max that was irresponsible, juvenile and seemed to have retained nothing of what she gained in the first game.

>if DE is basically the same as it is but with a choice for Chloe and Max to be together in a LDR, would your issues be with the narrative, SE and D9's cash grab or both?
I have no idea what the fuck an LDR is supposed to be. To address your other question DE is a poorly written game that fucks up its central mystery, and has an antagonist who reads so starkly differently than the devs' intent it harms the final narrative. Adding Chloe back wouldn't save the game, it would still be bad. At best it would be less outright insulting to fans of the original, but that doesn't make the game worthwhile.

>>534179727
>pricefielders don’t believe max has a personality outside of chloe
More news at 11

>>534174270
The anthology plan was brilliant, they just never did anything smart with it.
>S2 was a brat babysitting simulator
>TC was a boring safe rehash of S1 that took no risks
What's so annoying about DE is that they finally made a character worthy of being the new protagonist... except she's not the protagonist.
A shapeshifter using her powers to get revenge was the perfect hook for a new game, but instead they wasted Safi on a half-assed villain role that is now impossible to do anything more with.

>>534180752
>a half-assed villain role that is now impossible to do anything more with.
They made Mystique and tried to make her a Magneto.

>>534170080
That you?

>>534178280
But SE specifically didn't gave in to pricefielders demands since they destroyed what they like in the first place, so pointing them seems fallacious.
SE chose Max because the first game is the only one all fans like, it's as simple as that.

>>534178786
Is that Shizanon

>>534181964
It's pure corporate apologism, blaming the consumers for the publisher/dev putting out a bad product, as if they had some obligation to buy something that was clearly not what they wanted.

>>534181964
They assumed the fans were rational and hated Chloe and didn't want to see her again.

>>534180418
>I'm saying that as a character she was designed with her and Chloe's relationship intrinsically at the center of what defines her.
Now reread what you wrote, you are basically admitting that she cannot exist as an individual and a person without Chloe. Sure they amplify each other and even bring out the best in themselves but the opposite is also true. But why is the concept of them being apart from each other, to grow as people, be their own person, such a hard concept for you to grasp? Why is that their relationship is the end all be all of their fates? Because Max saved Chloe? Sure it helps but I'm also certain that obligation might also erode in time based on the tremendous trauma they experienced. A lot can happen in 10 years, D9 and SE chose to write a story where they break up and that's a valid choice, did they handle it poorly? Subjective. Remember what Michel said: Your choice is canon.

>DE with a Max that was irresponsible, juvenile and seemed to have retained nothing of what she gained in the first game.
DE also showed how much she's grown as a person. She's more self-assured, more confident, a respectable artist in her own right and has taken steps to work through the events 10 years ago. We can argue that the immense trauma she and Chloe suffered emotionally stunted them for a bit, resulting in her, what you would call, "erratic" behaviour. It's a fairly realistic take on her.

>I have no idea what the fuck an LDR is supposed to be.
A long distance relationship. Say for example, Chloe is at Away to clear her head while the events of DE are going down.

>Adding Chloe back wouldn't save the game, it would still be bad.
Something we can agree it. The game is okay at best regardless of Chloe's involvement but why is her limited involvement in the narrative and her relationship status the main criticisms and not the narrative itself that's often touted as the reason the game is bad overall?

>>534181964
>SE chose Max because
Because Max is pretty much universally loved among the general public, while her childhood friend only has like 20% favorability in the focus groups, and just as many people strongly dislike her

>>534182589
Sacrifice Chloe IS the more popular ending…

Adding Chloe in as Max's handbag that says a few lines every 3 hours wouldn't have improved DE

>>534182969
>tales from my ass

>>534183797
Oh yeah, anon! She's not in the game because she's just sooo popular, like, overwhelmingly loved, obviously

>>534182941
>Now reread what you wrote, you are basically admitting that she cannot exist as an individual and a person without Chloe.
That's not what I said. Reread my post. The problem is that Deck Nine tried to IGNORE that Chloe is a core component of what makes Max's character work. I believe you can write a Max story that is independent of Chloe and have Max be a fully realized self-sufficient character thematically. The problem is DE didn't do that, she just takes what is effectively the same narrative journey as the first game with only lip service paid to the fact this has all happened to her before.

>DE also showed how much she's grown as a person.
They failed in my opinion, and that's not an uncommon opinion from the middling reviews the game got. Max rarely feels like her own person in DE, and more as a vehicle for the subplot she's currently engaged in. Safi is the worst offender here, which spawned so many people suspecting she had some kind of mental sway over people with her powers. Max in the first game had strongly held opinions no matter how you played her, but here she just felt wishy-washy and a blank slate for the other characters to color.

>why is her limited involvement in the narrative and her relationship status the main criticisms and not the narrative itself that's often touted as the reason the game is bad overall?
Because people have a strong emotional connection to the first game, and however you want to spin it or whitewash it in hindsight, multiple people on the dev team were deliberately misleading people about what was going to be in the final product to try and keep their pre-orders. People felt betrayed, and they weren't wrong to think so when their wallets are involved. Chloe's treatment isn't why the game is bad, but it is a symptom of the extremely cynical mindset that created the flat, uninteresting final product.

>>534184384
Max literally acts like a battered housewife around Chloe. She's an entirely different person (in a bad way) whenever Chloe is present, it's actually sad to see.

>>534184797
Posting a picture from the game that people are decrying for missing the mark on Max and Chloe as "proof" that it didn't miss the mark isn't an argument.

>>534184040
She's not in the game for cost saving and reboot attempt, don't be dumber than you are.

>>534185147
The proof is all throughout S1. The game is a continuous cycle of
>Chloe gets mad or says something shitty to Max
>Max cowers and acts submissive
>Chloe throws her a bone by saying something vaguely nice or telling her how much she needs her
>repeat
It's impossible not to see it if you've ever been in an abusive relationship.

NORA LOVE!
SNORA LOVE!

>>534186112
Max deserved it and she knew it. She ghosted her best friend when she had never needed her more.

>>534186112
Oh you're one of those idiots who never figured out you can make Max stand up to Chloe, you just passively went with it all like a seething bets.

>>534184384
>The problem is that Deck Nine tried to IGNORE that Chloe is a core component of what makes Max's character work.
You're reiterating the same thing just worded differently. You're essentially saying Max does not work without Chloe to prop her up and imbue her with some magic character development juice that makes her Max. Chloe does not define her and her she. Their relationship may support their actions but they absolutely do not need each other to exist and carry a story.

> I believe you can write a Max story that is independent of Chloe and have Max be a fully realized self-sufficient character thematically. The problem is DE didn't do that, she just takes what is effectively the same narrative journey as the first game with only lip service paid to the fact this has all happened to her before.
Except DE actually did that and Max is absolutely a character in her own right in it. The game even goes as far to depict her helping someone in the same predicament, Safi, and she uses her own trauma and experience to help her out of it. That's growth and very self-sufficient thematically. Is it written well? Again, subjective.

>Max in the first game had strongly held opinions no matter how you played her, but here she just felt wishy-washy and a blank slate for the other characters to color.
Opinions that may well change over the years, it's not a flaw in the way she was written. That's how you would depict someone attaining growth or regressing in your case. Both valid.

>People felt betrayed, and they weren't wrong to think so when their wallets are involved.
So it's just their prejudices driving their already formed preconceived notions about the game. I can understand that but it's no reason to dismiss entirely one interpretation of the characters. Same thing happened with the comics. Fanfics are oddly okay though for some reason.

>>534186745
>you can make Max stand up to Chloe
This wording isn't doing Chloe any favors.
And yes, you can put your foot down on things like calling Kate and not stealing from the handicap fund. But she makes sure to voice her displeasure with bitchy comments that Max just takes without much resistance.

>>534187454
Getting berated for small and innocuous things is truly a sign of a healthy relationship.

You just know that Chloe broke up with Max as her long awaited revenge for Max ghosting her. All those years of seething finally paid off.

>>534187454
>NOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE CHLOE HAVE BITCHY COMMENTS SHE THEN APOLOGIZE LATER WHEN SHE AGREES TO MAX
I think it's quite obvious you are a moron that has poor media literacy skills that consume slop on a daily basis, we can safely dismiss your takes

The two morons are more active than ever today, I wonder what prompted to do so. I think any anon with a sensible take should ignore those two and post something more interesting to talk about.

Reminder that posting about DE is off topic.
The anti-Chloe DE schitzos should take that shit back to /v/ if they want to talk about it.

>>534188081
The irony is palpable

>>534182247
Fucking this! I can't stand this type of trolling that bend backwards to justify big corpos doing awful garbage and almost getting away with it, whoever tries to peddle that shit should be shamed for the rest of their lives.

>>534187741
>what is character development
>LiS2 photo of green haired Chloe who has forgiven David, keeps contact with him and helps Max finding art galleries in New York

>>534188468
We are dealing with low iq worms, it's better for everyone else to just ignore them and let them soak in their own pitiful hate

>>534177919
Hmm, could it be that Chloe trying to move on from Max by attaching to Rachel was already a part of LiS1?

>>534188081
Imagine if it was physical abuse. Would you stay with someone who slaps you constantly but always apologizes later?
Maybe Chloe could just not be an abusive cunt and treat Max with respect.

>>534189270
Chloegrunts and puff but ultimately agrees to Max's decisions and stick to her. To compare that and physical abuse you are only making it obvious you are dealing in bad faith.

>>534189772
They're both abuse in every sense of the word however, how are you going spin away that?

Stop arguing with the DE schizos for fucks sake

>>534190078
kek she looks like the damaged meme here
and no, we won't stop. chloe is a fucking bitch and max deserves happiness

>>534190008
>Chloe think its okay to steal the money
>Max chooses not to
>Chloe briefly puff but in the end she agrees and goes on
you are arguing in bad faith and you should be mocked for it

>>534190078
We really need to make it clear that DE is off topic and not welcome here.

>>534189053
>LiS2 photo of green haired Chloe who has forgiven David, keeps contact with him and helps Max finding art galleries in New York
One side of their multi-faceted relationship. Michel himself confirms that they have their hardships. Are you going to deny that I wonder?

>>534190503
And in the other option, Max enables Chloe's bad behavior which is also a form of abuse. Does picking one over the other automatically invalidate it? Remember now, both options are canon. You keep citing bad faith but you're the one engaging in it.

>>534191178
> Are you going to deny that I wonder?
Another bad faith assumption

>Max enables Chloe's bad behavior which is also a form of abuse
That's not a form of abuse, retard. But again, I bet you are the same anon who brought made up statistics to disparage PFs fans, it's quite pathetic from your side.

>>534190503
>Chloe starts bitching at Max BEFORE you even make the choice.
>Max doesn't even say anything to deserve it, she just looks in Chloe's direction
Max can't win no matter what she does. Chloe even proactively punishes her for future crimes.

>>534191501
Ah I see, you run on bad faith intrinsically. It's sad to see.

>>534190008
>Disagreement is abuse
No DE defender can ever help themselves from devolving back to the root of their disingenuous complaints: they hate Chloe, and nothing about the game they claim they love influences any of their decisions. It's just all hurt feelings towards a fictional person.

DE2 with 5 minutes of pricefield might slightly disappoints pricefielders (can they really) but it will crush chloe haters.
The drama and tears will be so sweet.

>>534186826
>Is it written well? Again, subjective.
You just rambled for two paragraphs about how you want to dismiss my opinions because you think yours are objective truth and then try to handwave it away with "Well, it's down to your reception."

That's what I said, you buffoon.
Deck Nine FAILED to present a Max who had grown because they disregarded the fact they couldn't just write Chloe off without properly addressing her absence; doing that leaves Max an incomplete character. You CAN do a Max story without Chloe, and keep Max a fully realized character, but you need to let the narrative acknowledge who that person would be without someone whose presence by design defined who they were.

That's my point. That's what you keep ignoring to put words in my mouth to keep fighting your strawman. You're not paying attention to a word I say because it's not the script you'd practiced against.

>Fanfics are oddly okay though for some reason.
Fanfics don't ask you to pay money, and don't come with the tacit idea that getting this story you didn't want also means the creators are refusing to ever make the story you DID once. Are you a fucking alien? You're some kind of bad-faith concept bot who's unaware of the fact people use money to live, and don't like wasting their limited income of it on what they thought would be Product A, but turns out to be Product B because the developers of it were stringing them along.

>>534192023
This may be news to pricefielders, but you can disagree with people while still being respectful to them
You don't need to be a raging bitch to express your opinion to someone. Bitching at someone so cruelly and consistently, like what Chloe does to Max, is abuse

>>534192023
Way to be reductive. She disagrees in a manner that disparages Max, insofar as to guilt-trip her at times. That's still a form of verbal abuse. She does realizes her errors but it doesn't forgive her behavior.

>>534192819
>raging bitch
You're letting your hatred of a fictional character slip through even as you type this. Chloe wasn't raging at Max over the money even when you chose not to take it. You're just making shit up to pretend you're the calm and civil wojak in the meme and not the seething one.

>>534188468
>Reminder that posting about DE is off topic.
“How dare anons discuss a Life is Strange game in a Life is Strange thread! Discuss LR, a non franchise game, instead.”

Rejoice, DE is 50% off again!

>>534191712
Again, this doesn't disprove my point. Chloe is all bark but ultimately doesn't bite, and the reason why she act like that is because she has been heavily scarred by either Joyce trying to shield David ACTUAL abuse toward her, Max ghosting her for five years, being recently drugged by Nathan, Frank on her ass for money she has to pay back to fix her truck and Rachel disappearing out of nowhere.
But again, you have to build a strawman and negate context where it matters.

>>534193297
Why bother when you can have FitGirl repack?

>>534193162
DE is not in the OP list of relevant games anon.
If you want to discuss it, fuck off back to /v/.

>>534192989
Yes, of course she didn't rage at Max, angel Chloe would never do that.
She definitely doesn't bring it up repeatedly or guilts Max by telling her that her life is in danger because she's uncomfortable with stealing from disabled children.
This is a totally normal and healthy way to treat your best friend/love interest.

>>534193836
People had it in the OP until you removed it, your behavior is similar to a controlling plebbit mod. Even so, you’re completely missing the point that this is called “Life is Strange General”, and DE is a franchise game. It certainly is not off topic to discuss games that are relevant to the general’s franchise, unrelated games like LR would better fit that criteria.

Useless anti-Chloe bait

>>534194070
Aaand another bad faith argument, a weak one too given the episode prior Chloe was reached by Frank with no warning and pulled a knife in her face. And again, Chloe might be a bitch with her words but the threat is real.

The unironic best way to handle Chloe in DE would have been to kill her at the start of the game if she's still alive

I hate the chloeshitposters as much as I hate the retard who makes the OPs
And the nigga obsessed with Kate/Victoria too while I'm at it
Basically you're a bunch of insufferable faggots

pool time

>>534192794
Anon is spitting straight fax here!

>>534192794
>You just rambled for two paragraphs about how you want to dismiss my opinions because you think yours are objective truth and then try to handwave it away with "Well, it's down to your reception."
I've said no such thing, we're not drawing absolutes here but only sharing interpretations. Also, I have in no way dismissed the validity of your opinions nor your character.

>Deck Nine FAILED to present a Max who had grown because they disregarded the fact they couldn't just write Chloe off without properly addressing her absence; doing that leaves Max an incomplete character.
But they did do that, regardless of which ending you chose. Max still grows in spite of Chloe's death and DE depicts that through the Sacrifice Chloe ending and their break up in the Sacrifice Bay ending. Both are reasonable enough explanations for her absence. Why is it that you don't consider the Sacrifice Chloe ending as a valid option for Max to grow as a character? She goes through the same events, faces the same traumas and makes a hard moral decision. If anything, it should strengthen her resolve to better herself and honor Chloe's memory. Before you attack this interpretation, remember that it is an interpretation.
>You CAN do a Max story without Chloe, and keep Max a fully realized character, but you need to let the narrative acknowledge who that person would be without someone whose presence by design defined who they were.
Again same thing, Chloe does not define Max. It's the hardships and decisions that shaped Max's character and not Chloe. She was a part of it sure but she alone does not define who Max Caulfield is. They can exist independent of each other. You're guilty of ignoring as well so let's not resort to fallacies here. I could even argue in bad faith here and say Jefferson defined Max as well but would you be willing to accept that?

>Fanfics
Let's agree to disagree, clearly you have your prejudices about the subject and it's not going to be discussed amicably.

>>534195863
>no hag models of Nora Swann and Autumn
You had one job

>>534194936
That makes no sense
>oh okay she is actually in danger so it's okay to guilt trip Max
It's not Max's fault that Chloe got herself in that position or that she didn't take the money. Telling someone "I'm going to die because you gave your opinion after I solicited it and then I followed it" is messed up

>>534194936
>Aaand another bad faith argument, a weak one too given the episode prior Chloe was reached by Frank with no warning and pulled a knife in her face
Did you miss the part where Frank was looking at them as they were leaving the diner? Are you going to argue in bad faith and say that he couldn't have possibly followed them to get his money from Chloe?

You guys are right, Chloe is a fucking bitch and an abuser. She should just die.

>>534195152
This general is an AITA scenario and the answer is ESH

If you wanted to mount a defense of saving Arcadia Bay by arguing that Chloe is a bad person, the most persuasive approach would be to avoid making it a cartoonish villainization and instead focus on a pattern of harmful behaviour that has real consequences for others. Chloe, as written in Life is Strange, is not simply flawed in the way all people are—she consistently makes choices that put herself and others in danger, often with little regard for the fallout, and she doesn’t show much interest in changing until the very end (if at all).

You could start by pointing out her manipulative tendencies. Chloe pressures Max repeatedly into helping her—whether it’s breaking into Blackwell, stealing from the handicap fund, or sneaking into the Prescott barn—without fully explaining the risks, and often uses guilt or emotional appeals to get her way. She frames her demands as proof of loyalty, making Max feel that friendship is conditional on obedience. These are not the actions of someone who values the agency or safety of others.

Then there’s her tendency to escalate situations recklessly. Chloe pulls a gun on people when she feels cornered—first on David, later on Frank—and each time she treats it more like a thrill than a sobering moment. She trespasses, vandalizes, and gets high without considering how these behaviours affect Rachel’s disappearance investigation, or how they drag Max deeper into trouble. Even the train track scene, framed as a moment of camaraderie, is in reality another instance of her putting herself (and Max) in unnecessary mortal danger just to chase adrenaline.

Morally, Chloe is often self-centered to the point of being cruel. She weaponizes her trauma—her father’s death, Rachel’s disappearance—not just to explain her pain but to excuse her worst behaviour. She belittles Max for leaving her when Max’s family moved away, refusing to acknowledge that Max was a child with no control over the situation. Her resentment is deep-seated, and rather than processing it, she channels it into dragging others into her spiral.

In the bigger picture, Chloe’s pattern of impulsivity and disregard for collateral damage stands in stark contrast to the hundreds, maybe thousands, of lives at stake in Arcadia Bay. Choosing to save Chloe means choosing to continue enabling a person whose track record suggests she will not become a force for stability or empathy. It’s not that her life is worth less intrinsically—it’s that she is one person whose survival demands the destruction of a whole town full of people, many of whom are innocent and contribute positively to their community.

The defense, then, is brutally utilitarian but bolstered by character analysis: Chloe is not an innocent bystander. She is someone who actively and repeatedly endangers others for personal reasons, refuses to take responsibility for her actions, and resists growth. Saving Arcadia Bay is not just about numbers—it’s about protecting people from the fallout of one individual’s destructive path.

If you wanted to sharpen that further, you could argue that letting Chloe die in the timeline where the storm destroys Arcadia Bay is, paradoxically, the one decision that prevents her from hurting more people in the future. In that framing, Max’s choice is not just a tragic necessity—it’s a moral responsibility.

If you want, I can also write a counter-argument from Chloe’s defenders that flips this entirely, to see how it feels from the other side.

>>534196040
>She goes through the same events, faces the same traumas and makes a hard moral decision.
Which she promptly ignores to go prancing around in alternate timelines, with the player heavily encouraged to do light-hearted gaslighting side romps with characters oblivious to your dimension-hopping giving you a social leg up on them. Max is just the Max of the first game again, and doesn't care a lick that she's abusing her powers again the exact same way as when she caused the storm the first time around. She doesn't carry the weight of what happened because it doesn't impact any of her decisions. It only comes up as a deus ex machina power to save Safi from her own storm and consequences from her own actions, devaluing the lessons she allegedly learned from the first game anyway.

Cool ai slop post I'm not reading though

>>534197905
>refusing to acknowledge that Max was a child with no control over the situation. Her resentment is deep-seated, and rather than processing it, she channels it into dragging others into her spiral.
She had control over texting or speaking with Chloe - ghosting her was entirely voluntary and on Max. One paragraph in and you're already into disingenuous character assassination so I don't need to read the rest to know you're talking out your ass.

I do find interesting how they haven't replayed the part in which the money choice comes in, Chloe is a bit bitchy but ultimately she accepts Max' if the player choose to not take the money and the whole last part is them gleefully going into the pool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znS7DySG67A

>>534197905
>>534197738
Chat GPT written ass text kek

>>534197905
>letting Chloe die in the timeline where the storm destroys Arcadia Bay is, paradoxically, the one decision that prevents her from hurting more people in the future. In that framing, Max’s choice is not just a tragic necessity—it’s a moral responsibility.
Lol Max has a moral responsibility to put this bitch down and free the world of evil Chloe.

>>534198357
>replayed
They never played it at all, at best they watched a streamer play it and bitch about Chloe while failing every gameplay check causing her to shoot Frank.

>>534197968
Powers that were again randomly bestowed upon her which set a chain of events that she already has a preconceived, but never proven to be her fault, experience. She sees another Storm, vows to do her best to prevent it and tactfully assigns Safi's death as the main cause and tries to prevent and solve it. It's actually a good way to that she acknowledges the events of the first storm and by preventing it, she can lift that weight. Regarding her powers, she's unable to rewind which makes every decision she makes have more weight and she can only mitigate the damage it can do, but I do agree that it doesn't pay off so well. The romance parts are kind of abusive but only if you do pursue one. She actually tries to teach Safi the lessons she learned from Season 1 but Safi just refuses to listen. It's no fault of Max's there and definitely doesn't devalue them.

>>534197905
>She belittles Max for leaving her when Max’s family moved away, refusing to acknowledge that Max was a child with no control over the situation.
This right here is enough most of the time. The situation is exacerbated by Max's guilt for abandoning her and in typical teenage fashion, she does the classic "It should go away if I ignore it". But it didn't. It ate at her and she feels obligated to stick by Chloe, abuse or not, because of it.

What do you think they're up to these days?

>>534203737
They're going loco down in Acapulco!

>>534205232
kek hell yeah

>>534203737
Sean is rotting in a shallow grave beside an interstate.
Cassidy has a girlfriend and is living a good life in Portland.

>>534209153
Seek help

>>534209665
It's a happy ending anon. Accept it.

>>534209153
If this is how LiS2 ended bakeranon would’ve added it in the OP.

>>534195152
I hate the quirky retarded faggot calling the schizo OP baker like it's the funniest pun ever that bears repeating every other post

>>534211337
Cassidy was the only good part of that game.
Her going on some road trip and falling for some Steph like character would have been a much better game. I absolutely would include it in the OP if that were the case.
>>534211768
It really makes it sound like they are some 2016 era loser from /pol/.
I make the threads. Just say that.

When you've no emotional investment in it anymore it's kinda funny to go through this rollercoaster of terrible writing
This might be my new guilty pleasure, I hate to say

>>534212174
It's The Room in a video game format

>>534195863
Oh lord

>>534211957
cassidy is just cool cuz she shot but finn is better

>>534216410
This new? Havent seen it before. Blessed

>>534219887
New, and there's plenty of new art from south east asian artists too

>>534223623
remasters be damned

>>534223623
lip job

Why is /lisg/ so defensive of Chloe?

>>534226286
Because she's an extremely divisive character and is hated by normies everywhere else on the Internet so why not have this one place where she's liked?

>>534226286
Because most of the place is filled with lesbian fetishists and millennial tumblrfag women who self insert as Max, hence why they don’t see Max as having any sort of identity beyond Chloe and attach her to the ship.

>>534226286
Chloe is an extremely basic empathy test that most gamers somehow manage to consistently fail. It's almost endemic how an entire generation of vidya players has a borderline-delusional hatred of her built up to a level approaching a subculture - doubly so when you investigate and find out the majority of her most vocal haters literally never played the game she's from.

It's like a slice of mass hallucination you occasionally pass through as you go through vidya-centric internet spaces.

>>534228659
Max's identity was being an insecure, highly manipulative wallflower in the first game. I always thought she was kind of a bitch after I learned that she ghosted her friend who was in immense pain at the time.

>>534229254
shes also nosey as hell

>>534229254
>>534229425
People miss that both Max and Chloe were shitty people in LiS1, Max was just the quiet shitty while Chloe was the loud shitty. They both improve as people through reconnecting over the course of the game.

>>534229551
Fucking this. People miss Max's shit because her choices are your choices and people don't want to see or think that they're assholes.

>>534228659
Most of us are sapphic women in the 30-40 age range.
Obviously we self inserted as Max and obviously we are going to be defensive of Chloe as a result. It does not help that since the release of LiS 1 through to the modern day, incels have been obsessed with hating Chloe.
>>534229254
Once you learn she has autism I think it is more forgivable.
I think the biggest sin of LiS 1 was that Max and Chloe never really got the chance to just sit down and talk this stuff out in detail. I think that really would have helped things. In general, the story of LiS 1 is far too rushed and really lacks of lot of obvious conversations that should have been had between Max and Chloe.
That said, I still think Max is a kinda weak protagonist. She was written to be a partner with Chloe to such a degree that I think she kinda fails to be all that interesting without her other half. Swann for instance has a bunch in common with Max, but she is enough of her own character that she is still interesting even when she is not interacting with Nora.

>>534229254
>Max
>highly manipulative
Chloe literally guilt tripped her the entire game

>>534228659
>Because most of the place is filled with lesbian fetishists and millennial tumblrfag women who self insert as Max
This. If you read everything carefully, you can actually recognize some of the commenters from other social media. And yeah, that's exactly who they are and exactly what they look like

>>534229254
>I always thought she was kind of a bitch after I learned that she ghosted her friend
>be toxic, petty, and borderline psychotic to your best friend, gaslight her, ruin her life, almost get her killed multiple times
>but Max ghosted her when she moved away at 12, she's such a bitch

>>534232550
And Max manipulates every person she talks to the entire game.
She'll be fine.

>>534233556
>Max manipulates every person she talks to the entire game
For selfish reasons, I'm sure

>>534233865
To be liked by everyone, so yes selfish.

>>534234047
>Trying to save your friend and literally the entire town from certain doom just so everyone will like you in the end
Anon...

>>534233865
Yes, she totally rewound to take a pic of the skaterboy lying on the ground to save chloe.

>>534228964
People like Chloe aren't charming in real life. It would be in your best interest not to associate with them. Getting into a relationship with them is just a display of rock bottom intelligence.

>>534234590
Constantly rewinding in order to say the right things just so people like you more is manipulative, yes. Are you dense?

>>534234590
>Conveniently ignoring all the countless times Max can restart a casual conversation with someone just so she can say the perfect thing and get them to like and trust her.
>Losing the argument and moving the goalposts
Anon...

>>534236621
>Constantly rewinding in order to
>>534236830
>get them to like and trust her

To get answers that actually lead somewhere

>>534242138
Yeah, piloting Brooke's drone gave max a crucial lead.
Or the chemical experiment in science class.
Or throwing the paint on Victoria. I guess this one leads her to her dorm.

>>534243241
Anyone who gets a power like that is gonna mess around with harmless stuff like this (and lowkey remind the player that the mechanic exists, since half of them forget to use it when it actually matters). I don't really get how that makes her look bad? It's not like she used her powers to steal a fat stack of cash from the principal’s office, right?

>>534244894
Or go rummaging through Dana's trash to find out about her pregnancy, and then make her forget Max did that when she rightfully is pissed.

>>534244894
In fairness, constantly rewinding time to kiss Chloe over and over would be pretty based.
I'm actually kinda disappointed there was no options to just randomly surprise Chloe with a kiss at inopportune times, then just undo it by rewinding.

>>534246697
>I'm actually kinda disappointed there was no options to just randomly surprise Chloe with a kiss at inopportune times, then just undo it by rewinding.
Is that not sexual assault

>>534248432
Getting a partner flustered on purpose is cute and common in relationships.

>>534245518
Anon, don't even try. Literally every single thing you can call out Max for when she uses rewind doesn't even come close to the sheer stupidity or recklessness of how her emotionally stunted childhood friend used or suggested using it

>>534226286
I'd say the majority just like the character to some degree but a handful of them, you can tell who they are for they defend her less than stellar qualities to a fault, have this weird stockholm syndrome dynamic with her that's very concerning. Try as you might to even suggest that Chloe's a bad person, she is, they'll lash out at you like a battered wife with a whole spew of logical fallacies at the ready once you call them out on/get caught in their ignorance. They're all over the fandom too, not just in /lisg/

>>534236142
>People like Chloe aren't charming in real life.
Chloe is an interesting character for a game, but you are right that if she was a real person, most people would not like her or want to spend time with her. She acts irrationally a lot of times and can be quite self centered.

>>534252751
>chloe immediately thinks of whoring herself out
She must have lots of STDs racked up

>>534260150
She got most of them, if not all, from Rachel

>>534260150
she did have that phase after william died

>>534252751
There's a big difference between
>I have these powers and what it means to use them
and
>I don't have these powers so I can only imagine how cool they are

>>534267292
Not to mention with the context Chloe's making a joke rather than being serious, but again that's what you get when you argue with bad faith actors.

>>534267292
In theory, I totally agree with that argument. But in practice she acts exactly like that. She literally dragged her to the junkyard right away to shoot at bottles, where she could've easily shot herself, by the way

>>534252751
>emotionally stunted
bro she's a teenager
can you even blame her "joke" when adults were thinking the same

>>534277294
But she is emotionally stunted regardless of her being a teenager. Safi is too.

>>534181615
nta, but I definitely am. same thing happened with mass effect girls

>>534283686
even Sara?

>>534262254
How do two women even exchange them, do they rub their pussies against each other

>>534286870
checked my notes and it's something like that

I want to kiss Nora.
I need my middle aged lesbian romance now.

>>533680171
Damn, that really sucked! legitimately godawful story, what the fuck.

>>534290492
did u rike it??

>>534285459
who?

>>534290492
Lmaooo

>>534291238
this beauty

>>534290492
>Have an easy way to make both bay/bae happy with two timelines
>Do nothing with it
>Introduce a new character that actually seems to have some chemistry with Max
>Make her an x-men villain and not a romance option
>Have an actually great and likable character with Gwen
>Do nothing with her
It is almost comical just how bad they dropped the ball.

>>534291687
>Gwen
>Do nothing with her
That was probably one of the most writing decisions desu, we don’t need more trannies

>>534290492
Remember the part where a detective is onto you but happens to see himself in another timeline and he disappears after touching his reflection and they mention how it's like he never existed
But this is never brought back at all
Or how there's this "secret society" of which we learn nothing of?
Or how we spent 2 chapters discovering stuff about Safi's book/Maya but none of this mattered at all?
Or how she just walks into the storm

>>534291687
>make both bay/bae happy
Nope. Having her in the game in any timeline will make Bay unhappy. Her not being in it is literally the first condition. Only after that can Bay even start talking about the game itself
>actually seems to have some chemistry with Max
Lmao
>Make her an x-men villain
Still unclear. The fired employees said the opposite about it
>not a romance option
No thanks. Max doesn't need another Chloe - even if she's smarter, prettier, and richer
>great and likable character with Gwen Do nothing with her
That's really sad, yeah

>>534293296
>Or how there's this "secret society" of which we learn nothing of?
No idea why they included that in the first place. I remember it being set up as a pissing contest between Diamond and Vinh and maybe even give Diamond a little something to do in the game but it never went anywhere and it's abruptly forgotten until the end until Vinh either drops out or runs again for president? I honestly don't get it. At least you get a pin.

>>534293296
The detective and Abraxas are cut content. The detective stuff, or what happened to him, was actually found in the game files, while Abraxas is only hinted at through concept art - so they were probably scrapped at different stages

>>534294824
You mean they wrote shit they didn't know how to fit in the later chapters
Cut content implies there wasn't time or budget to add it
This was just memoryholed because they were winging it

>>534293569
>The fired employees said the opposite about it
All that really means is that the staff was exactly as out of touch with what the audience wants as the Chloe decision made it seem

>>534294302
Because the Vortex Club in 1.

>>534295318
In fairness, it sounded like Squared wanted to get rid of Chloe from the series. The narrative team simply didn't like Chloe so never actually bothered advocating for her.
I would argue that the marketing team was the most out of touch. Had they just pulled off the band-aid about Chloe when the game was revealed, DE's launch would have had less of a stink about it.

>>534294930
>Cut content implies there wasn't time or budget to add it
The Alderman scene was cut from the nightmare in Ep.5 because of budget cuts. There's a description of it in the game code

>>534295384
I get that since the game's partly a "Remember this?" kind of game and it makes sense for it to be included in a university setting but it's not utilized well. It would make better sense if they're entirely responsible for the Maya conspiracy and making Yasmin the leader but then it would enter weird cult territory that's a retread of LiS 2.

Lazuli by Beach House is confirmed to be the Snora anthem song, same way Syd Matters' Obstscles was for Pricefield

>>534300087
I think this basically confirms that Snora was the dev intended romance and was written first.
The fact that it is tied to the dance scene is even better. Dancing with Nora is by far my favorite moment out of any of these games. The music choice was just perfect. Really the only time I have seen a game actually really capture what a sapphic romance feels like to me personally.

Snora LOVE!
Best ship!

>>534300087
Does that mean the other bracelets are tied to Kat and Autumn

>>534300740
It means Kat and Autumn romances were after thoughts.

>>534302974
uh huh

Snora just can't stop winning.

>>534302974
Which is weird, because seems like Kat is Michel's favourite romance, guess it has to do with the doomed romance tragedy shit

I'll pirate LR

>>534309740
I get the whole doomed romance aspect with her. I think the problem is that she just does not have romance option energy.
Kat feels like a little sister and the big reveal about her sickness just made me feel protective of her as a little sister. I did not even know until after I had finished LR that she even was a romance option, because she just never really feels like one.

Compare that to Nora who has this instant chemistry with Swann from basically as soon as they meet and pretty clearly show that they are into each other.
Snora even has that tragic romance angle to it also. That basically is what the kiss in '22 was all about.

>>534309740
He loves that trope for sure but he's openly admitted that Nora's his favorite character in one of his tweets. Not sure about Luc and the others though.

>>534309843
Good choice. No game discussed here is actually worth paying the money for except maybe the original LiS

We were younger

>>534310224
>I did not even know until after I had finished LR that she even was a romance option
Did the "Something More..." on the stat pages not give that away or are you just that dense

>>534310937
I obsess over stats and data in my day job. I just skipped through those screens in LR because I was not interested.
I'm here for the sapphic romance, I don't care what other options strangers picked.

>>534310937
>"Something More..."
Blatantly copying BtS’s romance route is crazy

>>534311254
So you are just dense, got it. There's really no possibility of a meaningful discussion with you is there? Loathsome.

>>534311793
You can go back to /v/ whenever you want. Nobody is keeping you here or wants you here.

>>534312037
Nah but let me ask you this: Are you able to discuss why Kat's romance, or anything LR related, has more impact without going "Snora this, Snora that. Oh this is the dev's intended romance."? Why are you so close-minded that you only have one take that you constantly peddle in a game with many choices that can be considered canon? Can you tell me that or are you just going to go "Bad faith, bad faith go back to /v/ tourist"?

>>534312528
>Kat's romance
I'm totally ambivalent to it. I have never claimed that it was bad or shit on anyone for being into it.
Kat just does not have that energy to me.
>anything LR related
Snora is by far the most important element of LR to me. Just as pricefield was the most important part of LiS to me.
I engage with other LR topics, but I just care about them far less than I do Snora.
lisg has always been focused on discussing ships before anything. Snora happens to be a ship I really like.
>a game with many choices that can be considered canon?
B&R is going to have a sequel. Just the nature of there being a sequel ensures that not all choices are going to end up being respected or treated as equally valid.
The game and the devs have pretty clearly signaled that Snora is the intended romance and thus the canon romance going into a sequel.
>bad faith go back to /v/ tourist
The people who shit up lisg are tourists from /v/.
If you have a problem with people discussing ships, you should go back to /v/. Nobody is forcing you to stay here if you have a problem with what we talk about.

>>534314071
You really have a one-track mind about these things in your little bubble. It really is fruitless engaging with you. I'm glad you weren't there to shit up the earlier discussions when the game came out.

>>534312528
>Can you tell me that or are you just going to go "Bad faith, bad faith go back to /v/ tourist"?
They can’t handle different opinions or not everyone on the thread bowing down to Pricefield or Snora, who Snora in particular is not even relevant to this thread’s franchise. It’s the only argument their small mind has.

>>534316843
It's unfortunate but every /vg/ general has their schizos and lolcows. Punching down on them loses its lustre after a while since it's better to pity them.

In another other life, “the go back to /v/ anon” was a reddit mod who could enforce their want of power

>>534300552
>>534300087
This pleasing as it's an additional layer to Snora the others don't get.

I do hope for the sequel, DN have the balls to outright pick one ending and stick with it. Bae / Bay has been a shadow over LiS for a decade.

>>534321534
But that's exactly what they did.
There's only one ending in LR, Swann goes in the Abyss to find Kat. The "romances" are done by the end of the game.

>>534310224
I think Nora is just that good of a romantic path and character, that kinda overshadow the other two in a way. I can see Kat and Autumn working well, but Kat is like you pointed out the little sis dynamic and Autumn works a lot better when she's an adult

>>534322004
I always found that to be a cop out cliffhanger desu, expecially since all the endings reinforce the "Kat is still inside the Abyss" as a future plot point and I think Swann going inside was a last minute addition, as you only get dark shadows of her in Tape 2 than Tape 1.

>>534322404
Next game, some lesbian teens will investigate the disappearance of Swann Holloway.

>>534322404
I can't help but feel that the placeholder shadow inside the hunting stand in The Abyss chapter was supposed to be Swann's but it's too much of a spoiler. It's still a good way to show there's a lot more people in The Abyss than we know of at least.

>>534322950
The placeholder shadow has been updated to Kat, same for the writing Swann found inside the first time she get in the cabin

https://x.com/PlayLostRecords/status/1953471532119810062

This is how you do a birthday announcement, Deck Nine.

>>534325591
Oooh so it did. Oh well, I half-expected them to sneakily add Swann's shadow in Tape 1. Guess not.

>>534326037
Now for Autumn in October and Kat during the winter. Did they do one for Swann's in April? Maybe next year then.

>>534290492
Ah, so you romanced Amanda

>>534327525
NTA but of the two romance options, she was the better one.

>>534328635
>bland LI pushed in your face from the get go
>a literal sex pest weirdo
Can't fault that kek

>>534328635
u no rike me anon?

>>534327525
On one hand I didn't want to date either, but I was curious on how they handled romance. Vihn was the better character but also a walking ick.

>>534291451
oh yeah, ME:A... well not really. but at mine was at least hotter (no mods)

>>534329598
1. asian (yeah I'm racist wygdoi)
2. weird clothes
3. asshole character
4. he's actually bi or whatever was that ending I got

>>534329835
>Vihn was the better character

>>534230246
Very funny you mention that. Have you looked into the mirror lately?

Good Lord.
Discourse on this thread is such a mess that it's mind boggling.

Some of yall are so insanely illiterate that it's actually impressive.
There is no point in getting into conversations with delusional or dishonest people.

>>534334289
... What?

>>534334903
That's why I tell people to avoid the troll and stop replying to them

>>534327525
Amanda’s kindness really got to him

>>534334903
Looks like another anon is fading away…

>>534333276
Tecnically, you could remove Amanda from the overall story and it wouldn't change a dime, because her only purpose is to be a romance option and that's it.

>>534337519
And what do we do with people who seem to have a genuine nail in their brain?

STOP TALKING ABOUT DE
THIS ISN'T A DE THREAD

>>534343330
All the discussions about DE have either been troll posting or talking how bad the game was, how dumb D9 and Square are and how bad the sequel is going to be, I'd say it tells a lot about the game quality kek

>>534343330
It’s a Life is Strange thread, and DE is a Life is Strange game.

>>534338839
I wouldn't discount her role in Chapter 1 in getting Max out of her depressive rut but the thing is, literally any character could've done that.

>>534344625
That's why she has such low presence on the story and there's barely any fanarts of DE to this very day.

>>534338345
>Amanda’s kindness really got to him
Amanda's kindness makes me wanna fuck her so bad

i hate coomers

>>534344420
A dogshit LiS game, and there's a reason we don't talk about it in the same way we did for 2 at the time.

>>534347032

>>534347032
me with kate marsh

>>534350676
Still doesn’t negate the fact that it’s part of the franchise. If non franchise games can be discussed here a franchise one sure as shit can.

>>534349718
Coomers are the reason this franchise stayed afloat for so long. You should be thanking them, peasant

Best scene in the game.
Best scene in any game. Ever.

This alone should be enough to justify LR getting GOTY and GOTD. All of the other amazing moments in the game are basically just icing on the cake of this perfect scene.

>>534362828
nah i loved the game but that scene was goofy af

>>534362828
Eye of the beholder, dude. You can love it but saying it deserves those accolades is dumb.
Kotor 2 is my favorite game of all time, but I wouldn't say it deserves Game of the Century.

the samefag above is trying to fake a discussion, lmao

>>534363030
Fair. Not everyone loves Twin Peaks either. But if you are on the right wavelength for it, then it is amazing stuff.
I actually wish the game leaned into the surreal more often. Playing into more into the question of actual supernatural event or an unreliable narrator I think would have worked in LRs favor.
>>534363123
Kotor 2 was an unfinished game, notable for being a very basic deconstruction of the Star Wars universe. Had it not been a followup to the childish slop of Kotor 1, it would have been forgotten already. It is a game that really only looks good by comparison to babies first twist.
On it's own merits, it is pretty weak. The best thing I can say about it is that CA rehashes the same ideas in most of the games he writes, so some of the more interesting ideas in kotor 2 ended up getting recycled into the far superior New Vegas.

I'm fine with people not sharing my love for the dancing scene in LR.
But it is basically the highlight of the entire video game medium for me. So I'm not going to be afraid to share my own love for it.
It is the first time I have ever felt like a personal feeling (sapphic romance in this instance) was translated into a scene in a game. Everything about it from the colors, the characters, the visuals and especially the music just felt tailored to me.
It was just personally moving and I won't apologize for that.

it's painfully obvious you're samefagging, clown

>>534362828
>lr
>goty
Anon for sure is on DN’s payroll. The game was a 5/10 at best.

>>534364858
Fuck off back to /v/.
>>534364942
The game was amazing. Even if it didn't connect with you personally, you are being disingenuous if you think it is anything less then a 8/10 by any objective metric.

>>534365258
This proves nothing, you could’ve just screenshotted this on your phone

>>534365258
Cache cleared or just F12 cope?

>>534365258
>sydney/melbourne time
Yeah, it's that bitch again

Snora LOVE!

>>534366818
Crazy how Michel's games went from hype to just one lonely poster here.

>>534382814
That what happens when you haven’t made a good game in a decade

Bumpu

>>534364942
Ignore paid shills, simple as that

>>534396630
Nah, this girl's legit unhinged. Anons still post her old PF takes from before DE dropped just for laughs, you read those and it's crystal clear she's completely out of touch with reality

>anon makes a baseless theory once because they are fan of something and want to speculate on some details because devs are not saying anything about DE
>"look at how deranged their takes were!"
Yeah, apparently we shouldn't make theories or have a little bit of fun, which I kinda guess that's the direction given Deck Nine's inability to write an interesting and original story...

>>534382814
There's more than one lonley poster, just don't feel the need to do it all the time desu

>>534407012

>>534407387
I'm not that same anon and I don't think its productive to shit on then because they happened to have some deranged take once. Like, who the fuck cares, we have bigger things to fry, like how the hell is Square even trying to market a DE sequel given the negative aura it created the first one

>>534407387
>Fuck off shitter
>We have more evidence that they're married
God, this is straight-up pathological delusion

>>534410846
It's very weird how aggressive they were about it when the whole thing was literally just conjecture. The rings don't even match.

>>534407012
>>534410342
Just ignore them. They are angry that people are actually talking about LR rather than posting creepy coomer shit about DE.
Deny them the attention they want.

>>534362828
I liked it. Felt like the completion of all the build up. The big queer moment.

>>534407387
It was an entirely legitimate theory amongst the wider LiS community atvthe time.
It was considered more likely than the utter series murder that actually came out.

>>534410342
It's productive if it helps to change their ways and maybe, just maybe improve the overall quality of the general.
>The general has always been shit
It could always be better.


>like how the hell is Square even trying to market a DE sequel given the negative aura it created the first one
They'll wait until the sales for the upcoming collection cool down. Square will then proceed with whatever plan they already have in place regardless of how well/awful it did. Probably zeroing in on the notion that since people are buying the collection, they want another game.

>>534413561
I'm almost torn between wanting the game to have had more big, queer, surreal stuff like it and wanting it to remain its own special thing.
I also really like how it ever so slightly makes you question what we are seeing. Like, did they actually dance in the air, or have the feelings from Swann's last big romantic moment with Nora that summer bleed into the memory and we are seeing something closer to how Swann felt?
The music choice was also perfect. Especially give the lazuli bracelet Swann got from Nora.
As someone that plays these types of games mostly for the romance, this was everything I wanted out of LR in once scene.
>>534413687
The theory was from a period of total radio silence following the reveal of DE. Back when they were constantly saying that both endings would be respected, but little beyond that
I think it was pretty reasonable to give D9 the benefit of the doubt at the time and assume that they were hiding Chloe because of some big reveal. Very few people at that point actually thought they would try to write one of the most important characters in the series out of the franchise and kill off THE big ship of the franchise; In a Max game no less.

There were a ton of theories back then. Basically all of them were focused on what the big reveal would be with Chloe. The engagement ring theory actually seems pretty grounded in context.

>>534413687
A theory with no solid evidence was more likely than the actual game that came out with a trailer and marketing material detailing what the game will be about?

>>534413687
cope, schizo

>>534413875
>They'll wait until the sales for the upcoming collection cool down
Its not going to sell well and you know that, the only reason that collection exist is because they had to recoup costs in the laziest way possible, but once you tell people how it doesn't have all games on disk interest sunks to zero. Same for the Caledon guide, if you read the description on the site is clear it was planned with the notion DE would have been an overwhelming success and people would have loved to see more Caledon and its characters, which did not happen.

>>534414778
>The engagement ring theory actually seems pretty grounded in context
It was bogus from the start and I say that as someone who did not expect that level of disrespect and character assassination towards Max and Chloe. That's a type of detail that I can easily see in a Dontnod entry, but D9? Unlikely

>>534415968
>That's a type of detail that I can easily see in a Dontnod entry, but D9?
I think that is a fair criticism.
But prior to DE, I think most of us were far more forgiving when it came to D9. There was also the assumption that since the main thing they kept repeating about the game at the time would be that they would 'respect both endings' from LiS 1 and we had not seen Chloe yet, there had to be some big bae reveal that they were hiding.
I agree that in retrospect the ring theory was silly and the sort of thing you would really only expect from a DN game. At the time, we were basically grasping at straws. Basically nobody assumed that they would pull the shit they did, we were all being overly charitable to D9.

>>534354007
That's a choice I can get behind as well - even if it's a sinful one

>>534416484
>But prior to DE, I think most of us were far more forgiving when it came to D9.
This. Their entries had been entirely acceptable if not mind blowing.
Nobody could have predicted they would not only miss an open goal, but throw the ball into a fire.

>>534407387
>pricefielders thought they got married
>broken up instead
No wonder the game mindbroke this general holy shit

>>534415768
Hence, why I said they'll just take any amount of sales as an indication that people want more from the franchise. A great majority of the playerbase know nothing nor do they care about the drama surrounding DE's development. Not to mention there will be people who will finally give the series a chance since it's all in one collection and again they might not care that there's only 2 games on the disc.

>>534416484
Schizo, just stop. Or I'll post the screenshots where you go even further off the rails, claiming Chloe becomes the second protagonist in DE after Chapter 2 because she has superpowers that showed up in BtS, and she's gonna save Max after he messes everything up

>>534416935
>pricefielders thought they got married
There was literally zero reason to think that! We all saw the announcement, the gameplay video, the extended dev commentary where they said Max came to Caledon to start fresh, away from her old problems, and the character reveal video showing everyone who's gonna be in the game

>>534417146
I'm not ashamed of anything I posted. It is wild that you think you can threaten me with my posts from like a year ago.
If anything, it shows just what an obsessive weirdo you are for crawling through the archives, searching out my posts. Legitimately mentally ill behavior.
>claiming Chloe becomes the second protagonist in DE after Chapter 2
>and she's gonna save Max after he messes everything up
If you didn't have autism, you would be able to pick up on that being a joke. An obvious exaggeration of the theories floating around about Chloe at the time.
>she has superpowers that showed up in BtS
BtS pretty clearly hinted at Chloe having a power that was caused by the trauma from the death of her father.
That plot point was dropped when Square decided they did not want Chloe to be part of the series anymore. But at the time BtS was in development, the intention obviously was to hint at a power in the event they ever wanted to use Chloe again.
It is an obvious narrative hook that ended up leading nowhere because of the direction the franchise went in.

>>534417431
Because they wanted a soft reboot of the franchise and to chase a new audience that would have replaced the old one, even when they used Max and Chloe for that ice cream collab or reposted that Pricefield cosplay the same month DE was announced knowing full well what was going to happen behind the scenes. It's idiotic but that's Square for you.

>A great majority of the playerbase know nothing nor do they care about the drama surrounding DE's development
They don't need to know all the details, knowning that DE is an ass cashgrab and doesn't respect past choices was enough to turn the game into a flop so I just don't believe in the "great majority" point, given how niche the LiS series has turned out in the long run.
> Not to mention there will be people who will finally give the series a chance since it's all in one collection
That won't be enough, they barely advertise it and it's only on PS5, meaning it's going to get not much sales. It also comes out as that Ghost of Yotei game as Adnan pointed out, PS5 players will look around at other stuff than it.

>>534417840
>BtS pretty clearly hinted at Chloe having a power that was caused by the trauma from the death of her father.
No? This is your personal interpretation but there's no evidence of that, in fact the game is more around the idea of Rachel maybe having powers rather than Chloe. Which is funny to think that Before the Storm is a lot more closer to what a LiS game should be with the focus on the character relationships rather than powers than DE ended up with.

>>534417840
The only power Chloe has is the power of getting into trouble

>>534417840
>BtS pretty clearly hinted at Chloe having a power that was caused by the trauma from the death of her father.
That lame ass backtalk gimmick was a power to you? Holy fuck you’re delusional. If anyone in the game is implied to have powers it’s Rachel seeing as her yelling and a fire starting happened at the same time.

>>534418561
>>534418858
Arguably, the incredibly vivid dreams, and then seeing her father in daylight, could have been a hint of either power, or Schizophrenia.

>>534418164
>I just don't believe in the "great majority" point, given how niche the LiS series has turned out in the long run.
It is niche sure but only a handful of people in the various subsections of the community care about the drama. You're overestimating the amount of people that actually care about all that stuff. The average fan would just see a new Life is Strange thing and either buy it or not. No silly drama to inform their decisions.

>That won't be enough, they barely advertise it and it's only on PS5, meaning it's going to get not much sales.
Again, you're missing the point. What I'm saying is as long as the collection sells, and it will badly or no, they'll take that as a sign to continue on with the franchise.

>>534418858
Not that, they've always meant that her dreams with William was the power, a form of clairvoyance or an oracle thing, instead of it being a metaphor for her dealing with said trauma or at the very least, William's spirit actually warning her about Rachel and future events.

>>534418561
>>534418858
I know actually engaging with the game is a big ask. But please try actually at-least looking at the journal. A solid quarter of the character development and story in BtS is only found in the journal.
While the game is never clear about what exactly Chloe's power is, it seems to be related to prophecy.
During one of Chloe's dreams, we see a journal drawing of Max. This is obviously prophetic since Max is drawn how she looks in LiS 1 and wearing her outfit from LiS 1, rather than appearing how Chloe remembered her. It is a look at Max from several years in the future, in a post-bay timeline.

As I said. This was a point that was dropped due to the direction the series ended up taking. But at the time, they were obviously planting narrative hooks that they could have revisited had they used Chloe again.

>>534419469
Bay ending canon.

>>534419563
I think combined with the William visions. Her power is more about having some knowledge/warning of possible futures.
The drawing of Max having killed herself is a warning of what a bay ending would result in.

>>534417840
>crawling through the archives, searching out my posts
Don't flatter yourself. I just saved that wild screenshot you posted back then - your Chloe-as-a-superhero theory, where you were screaming it's getting more and more confirmed. I knew right then only a certified schizo could write that, and I figured one day we'd get a ton of laughs out of it
>you would be able to pick up on that being a joke
Again, you literally said it yourself that theory keeps getting more and more confirmed

>>534373705
>>534377389
Nora cheating on her wife

>>534419563
samefagging again i see

>>534420196
Nora finally finding her real wife again.

>>534420116
Please do yourself a favor and look up the definition of hyperbole. Exaggeration to the absurd is just a basic element of comedy.
Not everyone has your autism anon.
>>534420196
It is clearly an unhappy marriage. Nora resents her wife and even hints at signing divorce papers. Plus she obviously still has feelings for Swann.
Given the time fuckery that the Abyss seems to be capable of and just how unhappy all of the girls are as adults (plus Kat being functionally dead), I think it is a safe bet that B&R 2 is going to consider the '22 in B&R 1 as a bad timeline that we are going to try and fix.
So there is a very real chance that Nora will have never even married in the first place by the time everything is said and done. If you let my inner fangirl hope for a moment, she may even end up marrying Swann instead.

>>534419469
See, this is why I couldn't take you seriously even with tha ring theory back then. You are making stuff way more complex than it actually is. Before the Storm just played the dream sequences as a easy way to showcase Chloe's trauma from the death of William and abandonment issues, and its notorious for having a lot of narrative inconsistencies with LiS1. There's no Chloe with powers, only metaphors and the implication that Rachel may or may not have powers but it's all used as a metaphor to her character, rather than the focal point.

>>534420795
>look up the definition of hyperbole
That's just sad, anon. At this point, your schizo status is public knowledge you'll need something stronger than that. And you even got caught samefagging this morning >>534366818
Absolute embarrassment

>>534421325
>And you even got caught samefagging this morning
I know you have this weird fucking obsession with samefagging. But I have a pretty distinctive writing style, so it is clear I do not. You actually just seem to accuse anyone talking with each other about LR to be samefagging it is fucking weird.
If someone responds to one of my posts and happens to agree with me, that is called a conversation anon. It is sort of the point of this website.

Please either try to get over your autism or return to /v/ with others of your kind.

>>534420795
Issue is, you are giving for granted things that might not be considered for the sequel, as Michel and co probably have ideas to explore other characters too, but if they want to close the Kat in the Abyss storyline, they'll have to deal with Dylan first, as she does seem like her role is deliberately left out to expand later in the present timeline.

>>534421812
I think what we are going to get in B&R 2 is the conclusion to the B&R storyline and lots of lore stuff that they can build on for other projects in the Lost Records universe.
But I think the story of the girls is going to be wrapped up. Obviously Dylan is going to be part of that, since she is still in the Cove, never took an oath to forget that summer and seems to be the one that sent the package.
B&R was just one series in the wider LR universe after all.

>>534419469
Chloe’s dreams are likely her subconscious. The shirt means nothing, likely just fanservice and a nod for the original game. If clothing items from the previous game indicated anything, Max would know Sean considering one of the clothing options in DE is Sean’s wolf sweater. More likely than anything it’s a fanservice reference that shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

>>534421568
Samefag caught in 4K and still trying to gaslight, lol

>>534422424
This was not some fanservice outfit in some zero effort game.
This was a drawing during a pivotal part of BtS. Something with all the more attention drawn to it, due to how critical the journal is to understanding things in BtS.
I'm willing to accept that it could just be another BtS inconsistency, we know there are plenty of them in the game. But I think it is just as likely a dropped narrative hook hinting at Chloe having some sort of oracle like power.
>>534423734
You are legitimately mentally ill.

>>534422424
The whole journal page is an oversight and likely added at the last minute. It's even been dismissed by the writers telling you not to take it seriously or to ignore it, somewhere along those lines. If you take the same drawing of "Max" change the shirt then the schizo and others will sing a different tune saying "Oh it's just a coincidence, Max will never kill herself it's OOC and it's just a nightmare obviously".

>>534424103
>it could just be another BtS inconsistency
It's an obvious inconsistency.
In DE, written by the same authors, they literally spell it out.

>You are legitimately mentally ill.
NTA, but if you're really the anon from that ring pic, you clearly shouldn't be saying stuff like that to anyone here.

>>534424103
>This was a drawing during a pivotal part of BtS. Something with all the more attention drawn to it, due to how critical the journal is to understanding things in BtS.
Anon I respect your commitment to keep the general alive, but you clearly seem too lost in the sauce with stuff that has no real consequences.

Have you fellas taken your PS5 LR physical edition?

>>534434714
Ehhhh not really worth it imo. I wish these knick-knacks came with the vinyl too

>>534434714
>paying for that mid
Try again DN shill

>>534434714
Yup! I have now the physical copy and the vinyl.

bumpu

I ship Max and Mr. Jefferson

I HAVE SO MUCH HURT INSIDE ME
FRIEND MAKE SENSE OF ME, FRIEND MAKE SENSE OF ME
I HAVE SO MUCH HURT INSIDE ME
FRIEND MAKE SENSE OF ME, FRIEND MAKE SENSE OF ME
FRIEND, FRIEND, FRIEND, FRIEND

>>534434714
Interesting how Noras position has been adjusted on the art cards to be front and centre.

>>534450017
They know the fan favorite (dev favorite also it seems) and breakout character of the game.

>>534450520
Yes, her name is Kat.

>>534451167
*Swann

>>534451936
*Gus

>>534452034
Hell yeah brother

>>534449660
I listen to that soundtrack still

>>534461440
It's never leaving the rotation

>>534461440
Same. LiS1 and BTS have god tier music. TC had some good individual songs but they were never really used as effectively. DE had practically nothing.

>>534449660
I love the bts soundtrack like you wouldn't believe

>>534464264
The main menu/pause song is quite memorable desu, might be the only good thing about it

>>534464264
In TC's and DE's case, most of the better tracks are played in the bars and Steph's booth. Your mileage will still vary of course. TC's is really underrated.

>>534464912
It's really great, LiS 1's is more memorable but imo, together, BTS' score and the licensed tracks are so much better. Golden Hour edges out The Right Way Around slightly but it's really tenuous.

>>534465742
TC had Alabaster Daydreams, a song so thoroughly good that it got memed into being put on Spotify. And it introduced me to Phoebe Bridgers.

>>534470706
https://youtu.be/aWqfbmhq-oE?si=1rx7fDJRLnYPg1yV
>Stirring in the skyyyyyyyyy

>>534470935
When this started playing in the bar it really completed the ambiance of the place, so so good.

>>534434714
>PS5

>>534484795
>pc master race fag in 2025
lmao

>>534487637
Why can't there be no physical PC version?

>>534482338
Bit of an odd ask, but has anyone maybe extracted full-size versions of the photos Max had hanging on her wall at home, and the ones in Gwen's office too?

>Pepe = Max waifuists
>Wojak = Pricefielders

>>534502802
>No one has brought up Pricefield in hours
>Wojak is Pricefield!
Ignore your therapist. Suicide is the right play for you, bro.

>>534503137
Take your complaint to Square Enix, Pricecrapper.

>>534503448
I mean, other anon is right. pricefield lives rent free in your head, it's not healthy, man.

>>534503784
The real truth is most people here are unhealthily obsessed with Pricefield, whether it’s their fans or haters

>>534504291
pricefielders basically exist for our amusement during the downtime. every meltdown they have when a new game drops just makes the wait for the next one even better

>>534505260
I honestly don’t really give a fuck about them either way because their weird fans kind of soured them for me but their haters are so annoying

>>534505767
It's bizarre seeing fags like him act as if they aren't tourists who showed up for DE and have never even touched the franchise before. The last game didn't even have anything to do with Max or Chloe.

>>534505870
Yeah I do agree I don’t get why they’re so surprised Chloe was not in DE, anyone with a brain in their head could’ve deduced that deck nine was not going to make two different game almost based off which ending in first game you chose

>>534506212
That has nothing to do with what I said, crazy person. Fuck off.

>>534506283
Oh you’re one of the schizos, you are part of the reason my opinion on Pricefield has soured but my point still stands, why in the world would you think Chloe would have a big role in a game where it’s a sequel to a game where in one ending she literally died

>>534506212
>anyone with a brain in their head could’ve deduced that deck nine was not going to make two different game almost based off which ending in first game you chose
If you've got shit for brains like in this >>534407387
case, you'll believe literally anything - and even tell off the people who actually know how to connect the dots

>>534506729
>you are part of the reason my opinion on Pricefield has soured
Would love to hear how on earth that makes any sense when I'm posting about Chengrich.
>why in the world would you think Chloe would have a big role in a game where it’s a sequel to a game where in one ending she literally died
I've never once said I did, and I never expected that at all. At most prior to release my expectation was you'd be able to select that Max and Chloe were long-distance, and she was off doing something of her own while Max was furthering her career at Caledon. I canceled my pre-order as did my wife and decided not to support the game when early access showed off what they'd actually decided to do. It was lazy, low-effort, and indicated Deck Nine and Square Enix weren't interested in putting any effort toward respecting player choice, so there was no need to torture ourselves imagining the final product, or any future titles would improve in that regard.

That enough people felt likewise to turn the game into a financial failure is more happy coincidence than anything I wad campaigning for.

>>534507207
>At most prior to release my expectation was you'd be able to select
Oh really? Which exact piece of promo material hinted at that, I wonder?
>putting any effort toward respecting player choice
Player choice was respected. If she's alive - she stays alive. If she's dead - she stays dead. That's it. Neither the first game, nor the second, nor even Michel on Twitter ever promised you more than that.
>people felt likewise to turn the game into a financial failure
The failure had nothing to do with that. I won't even bother explaining - the sequel, or whatever they're cooking up next, will make it painfully obvious

>>534508280
>Oh really? Which exact piece of promo material hinted at that, I wonder?
You don't need direct promotional material to confirm a pre-established character relationship that was known going into the game. The intense backlash against the decision is indicative of the fact that it was out of left field and not something anyone would reasonably predict.
>Player choice was respected. If she's alive - she stays alive. If she's dead - she stays dead. That's it. Neither the first game, nor the second, nor even Michel on Twitter ever promised you more than that.
The fact you think Michel was somehow involved in DE tells me exactly how insane you are. I don't need to read anything else you deluded ass writes.

>>534508545
>The fact you think Michel was somehow involved in DE
Ah, got it - you're an idiot and reading comprehension isn't your strong suit

>>534508545
Replying to retards is always a mistake. They're just addicted to (You)s, they don't actually believe what they say.

Just lurking as I stopped coming here regularly back in December, but it's crazy how much the sequel broke this general. Square Enix really should've stopped making Life is Strange games after Life is Strange 2.

>>534515810
general’s fine. way more fun than before DE dropped.
if a few pricefield cultists snapped, that's their own fault. maybe don't delude yourself from the start next time

>>534492189
Disc drives have fallen out of popularity

>>534508280
>Player choice was respected. If she's alive - she stays alive. If she's dead - she stays dead. That's it. Neither the first game, nor the second, nor even Michel on Twitter ever promised you more than that.
Kek it's always this with them. Every time this gets brought up they'll move goalposts and then say their relationship wasn't written right because it goes against their headcanon. I have no idea why these people can't wrap their heads around the fact that other choices exist and those choices are canon in their own right.

>>534536376
Soulless, thank god DontNod made Nora as good as she was

>>534525621
Pricefield lives rent free in your head, troll.

Lmao, these schizos are already seething over the atmospheric pics that bumped the thread from page 10

>Kek it's always this with them. Every time this gets brought up they'll move goalposts and then say their relationship wasn't written right because it goes against their headcanon.

>DE is made by another company who never worked on the first game
>game is poorly written and poorly following up the themes and character development from the original game
They really have to grasp at straws to prerend they have a win in their hand, its so fucking pathetic desu

>>534537742
Thanks for proving my point

The relationship was written poorly, that's not an headcannon but facts and goes against what the original writers and developers intended.

>>534537708
an absolutely doomed fandom
whatever they're cooking for the new game, i hope it causes even more seething. they've earned it

>>534538972
Thanks for proving my point again and the other anon's point

>>534492189
It's 2025.
Barely anyone has an optical drive at all

Atop replying to the two leeches anons, you can see their bad faith arguments for a mile away at this stage

Strap yourselves in because d9 has an unannounced 2025 project. If it is de2 or a dlc this general is about to face another assault. It could be announced at gamescom

>>534542191
In ten days, baby!

>>534536376
Damn, she clearly works out

>>534542191
D9 is not surving if it flops in the same manner as DE, stopped caring about that for a while. Good luck trying to sell that without addressing the backlash and flop of the first part kek

>>534542317
Bet they are going to announce it in October but like keep the marketing to a bare minimum until they shove it out in December because they burned out all their marketing money on the first attempt

>>534536376
puffy pussy confirmed. the nude mod already gave it away, but still
>>534542191
>this general is about to face another assault
you can count on it
>>534544534
>D9 is not surving
but square survives

>>534542191
No confirmation on Square's and D9's side still if they're attending in an official capacity. There's only demos for FF games but they still might piggyback off of Xbox and have them announce something if there is any.

I honestly like the Kat romance more than Nora's.

>>534545393
>but square survives
No shit, they'll have to scramble up a studio that can keep up LiS for them otherwise they'll just shelve the IP like they did for Just Cause

>>534545508

>>534545396
What a garbage list

>>534545396
Like I said, it's going to be a underwhelming announcement in October, because SE will give no budget for marketing this time and let the game die on relase as they know it will flop

>>534546009
Could be in October to coincide with the collection's release but maybe also during the game awards, seems like a move they'll pull.

>>534545396
They can just throw a reveal vid in the opening night without having a presence on floor.

>>534546319
It mentioned a relase in 2025, they are going to shove it out the door without spending any dimes on additional marketing

>>534547516
Which could be a placeholder. Projects are known to be delayed and postponed, anon.

>>534547683
Either way, no shot in hell it's good if it comes out so soon, and the audience interest just isn't as present as it was pre-DE

>>534548034
That we can agree on, there's no demand for Telltale type games anymore and I doubt The Wolf Among Us 2 will usher in a resurgence if it ever comes out.

>>534549071
Is TWAU2 even in development at this point? It has been ages since the last update

>>534551658
Telltale themselves confirmed it still is but that was back in October last year and there's been no updates since afaik.

>>534552217
Duke Nukem Forever all over again kek

>>534552217
Nobody even knows who are the devs.

>>534547683
But the profile was updates two weeks ago, saying 2025. So...

>>534556248
So what's more likely?
Gamescom
October Anniversary
Game Awards

>>534556248
Might not be LiS related?
I know he was a LiS guy but who knows really.

Assuming it is LiS, there's no way they filmed a whole game since DE.
We know Telle went to Denver a few times, and others actors but in this timeframe, it can only be little reshots or voicing additional text or changes in the script.
I mean, it's not impossible to shit a quick sequel by reusing the same assets, settings, characters (and all the unused stuffs) but then, you probably completely forget about new mechanics or interesting puzzles. Their main focus should be the script and mocap.

Or are we assuming they filmed it in 2023 alongside DE? That'd be crazy to stick to a storyline without knowing the reception of the first game but hey, they were crazy enough to think it'd be a success.

>>534559543
Low effort October video and underwhelming marketing. They'll have the actors spew some bullshit and that's it, fast dump in November or December, they won't glorify Gamescom or the VGA of any announcements

>>534542478
>she clearly works out
>>534545393
>puffy pussy confirmed
As weird as it sounds, both of these coomers gentlemen are actually right. Messed around with the 3D models from the game, and can confirm that her model stands out in both of these areas, compared to other female characters, who mostly look copy-pasted with minor tweaks

>>534546009
>>534547516
If it's just DLC, then it's fine. But for a full game that’s way too short

>>534559913
>Or are we assuming they filmed it in 2023 alongside DE? That'd be crazy to stick to a storyline without knowing the reception of the first game but hey, they were crazy enough to think it'd be a success.
My bet is that they were working on it by late 2023 and they were crunching hard to the finish line but then DE was a bomb and Square got hit with the cold shower about the reception. Aysha literally spelled out on Bluesky how Square thought it would have been a success so big it was worth splitting into two games, and how they had to resort to AI because they had to do the same work for DE in like half time with even less stuff due to layoffs.

>>534559543
If it's a game releasing in 2025, they need to announce it soon. Even if they cut the marketing budget, they still need to inform people who might be interested.
So gamescom.

If it's a smaller thing like a DLC, yeah october is fine.

If they really don't care and want to cut the phase where fans shits on the game before release, they can try the shock value. Shadow drop at game awards, baby!

>>534560296
>So gamescom
Doubtful they'll put much effort for an announcement there. Look at the relase of that guidebook for Caledon next year, by next year people won't care about any merch for DE, they have to shove it out because it was too far into production and they have to take the loss

>If they really don't care and want to cut the phase where fans shits on the game before release, they can try the shock value
They won't glorify the VGA either

>>534559964
>If it's just DLC, then it's fine
>>534560296
>If it's a smaller thing like a DLC, yeah october is fine
The full game had just 4 months between announcement and release, so 2 months for a DLC makes sense

>want to cut the phase where fans shits on the game
Kinda weird situation right now. On one hand, there's not much hype overall. On the other, at least here, we're moving faster than the DE announcement-to-release pace

>>534560986
Is Square appearing at Gamescom this year?
>>534559913
Pretty sure it's LiS related. Aysha confirmed she worked on “Part 2” and is under NDA, so it’s either DLC or DE2 has been in development longer than we realized.

>>534561137
I'm just curious, I just wanna know how they'll try to get out of this mess and how they'll sell the sequel to the fanbase.
Feels like an impossible task. Some people like DE but not enough to make the sequel a success, even if it runs on a smaller budget.

>>534561557
>Is Square appearing at Gamescom this year?
Yes but it's for Final Fantasy related stuff >>534545396 and I suspect they'll focus on that more than LiS content

>>534562189
>sell the sequel to the fanbase.
>show chloe in the trailer
>pricefieldfags call it goty and shell out the money to see their waifu again

>>534562408
Not going to fall for it, people must first scream to not preorder and then wait for it.

>>534562404
Didn't they already show Final Fantasy at the Xbox Showcase?

>>534562781
So brave

>>534562697
Yes. Doubtful this Gamescom will have LiS related content as it is more likely they'll do a trailer reveal for October and drop it right away with a minimal marketing campaign, think of it like Killer Inn

What I still don't understand is why the schizo is so angry that Pricefielders were a big enough group to make DE flop, when they blatantly never played DE to begin with.

>>534563000
If it's a new game, they still need time to produce and dispatch the physical copies.
If it's a DLC, sure who cares. But a DLC for DE, really..? Unless it is refurbishing what they had for DE2 and closing that storyline in some way...

Killer Inn is a multiplayer game only on PC, announced without a release date and just had a beta test last month. Not really comparable.

Well, ok, a similar point is that both will bomb.

>>534564036
Another sociopath tourist from /v/ that can only feel something when it's pissing off others.

>>534564036
Pricefielders make up about 1% of the actual playerbase and you're right in saying the staunchest DE haters in this general never played it. Probably only watched it and/or parroting opinions from the subreddit(s). The game flopped because there's no market for these type of games currently.

>>534564095
>If it's a new game, they still need time to produce and dispatch the physical copies.
They can do away with physical copies if they strike up deals with gamepass and ps+. I imagine the collection has taken up that part of their current budget.

>1%
The shit schizos will say when their delusions back them into a corner is truly wild. Random Pricefield art on Twitter gets more engagement than the actual official announcements for DE got.

>>534565192
>Pricefielders make up about 1% of the actual playerbase
Bruh. Come on.

99% of the hella fandom reporting in

>>534564095
Some threads before an anon claimed a DLC was going to be relased on December this year, but I really do not trust them after we got another fake greentext before DE came out

>>534580024
Doesn't make sense to me to release a DLC after the complete collection that includes all DLCs.
Usually, publishers cancel DLCs for underperforming games, not releasing one one year after.
Weird times.

>>534565192
Bait. Or absolutely retarded if not.

>>534565192
>Pricefielders make up about 1% of the actual playerbase

>>534587249
What mind control they watching now??

Statically, Pricefielders (at least Bae ones) are about 50% of the fanbase

>>534545393
>puffy pussy confirmed

>>534595843
If anything it skews higher knowing the large majority of those who disliked the game and would not purchase new titles select Bay.

I played and completed Before the Storm for the first time so I could have context for my Rachel porn and was so invested in the story that now I just can't jerk off to LiS porn anymore.

>>534639787
The solution is porn that feels in-character. I'd suggest nicefield's to start with.

>>534640241
Nah, you go goon to that trash with its 2010-style pointy limbs ugly models and piss filter yourself

>>534595843
Most people who played the game have moved on and won’t return, no matter what choice they made. But the ones who remain, and are likely to come back, clearly lean heavily toward Pricefield.

Is she the most underrated girl in the series? She easily mogs all of the TC girls for me.

>>534661608
Absolutely!
She's the best

>>534661608
This is what Dontnod thought they were doing with Kat lmao

>>534664431
You mean Dylan, anon.

>>534661608
People have forgotten about her because she just doesn't have that much of a personality desu

>>534665135
Woops, my bad. Haven’t touched LR since I first played it.

>>534664431
DontNod makes unique and interesting characters, not fuckdolls

>>534661608
She's not all that underrated since she has a complete character arc which is more than can be said for some LiS 1 and 2 characters

>>534665958
Then why there's barely any fanarts of her to this very day?

>>534666907
She’s the Lyla of TC as I’m pretty sure she doesn’t even have 20 mins of screentime. If they made her a major character she would have easily been the most popular by far. I remember quite a few people wishing she was a romance option over Steph and Ryan back when TC first released.

Even Michel really liked her.

>>534668963
Riley is the sweetest. I'd take the bus with her in a heartbeat.

>>534665676
>DontNod makes unique and interesting characters
Looks like not so unique and interesting, lol
>Woops, my bad. Haven’t touched LR since I first played it. >>534665559

>>534668963
Yeah, I remember him saying he wished she was the romance option

>>534661608
Just like every TC character, it's a total waste of a good idea

>>534665135
Dylan looks like a discount Rachel

>>534673425
Dylan looks like a rat that made a wish to become a human

>>534673425
Rachel was inspired by those 90s american TV series that Michel and co watched when growing up, and Dylan is like the perfect archetype of that.

>>534675024
Kek, true

>>534602109

>>534673425
>>534675024
>>534678919
Do not speak ill of my Dyl

>>534683245
If it makes you feel any better she definitely is the least ugly of the flop records girls

>>534683973
True, but only from the neck down

>>534675024
what was Michel thinking?

>>534683245
Too many moles and birthmarks. She's a future melanoma patient.

>>534675650
You mean Laura Palmer in Twin Peaks?

>>534701113

DE was so bad it made me play FFXIV again

>>534706547
She's more like someone from 90210

>>534675650
Yep, Saved by the Bell or Buffy.

Bump

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1mmu0mn/you_can_now_download_certains_steam_games/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Going to dig through older builds of DE, hope it works before they patch it out

>>534733896
Nothing, what a waste of time

>>534679205
Kinda based. But at the same time, I always lose it when they make a character fit into some category, and then instantly cram in every single stereotypical trait associated with it. Like here: ok, she's a lesbian - and immediately - gym-built frame, the puff factor, sapphic stance, etc.

>>534735595
Amanda is a soulless prop made to fit a checklist, rather than an engaging and interesting character like Nora or Kat from Lost Records. Because Square has no care for queer characters even when they pretend to do so, and D9 thinks if a lesbian is hot looking their game will be a success despite being crunched like hell and rewritten a bazillion time

>>534743689
Judging by how you keep trying to push your faves under every post with Amanda, and nobody does the same under posts about your faves - it kinda looks like the opposite is true

>>534745478
They are more obsessed with Amanda than her small amount of fans

>anon makes a descriptive statement about a character, comparing it to other examples who do it better
>points out the reason why such character is like that by the company who made it
>"urr you're obsessed with it"

the two DEtards never change

>>534748217
Thing is, those same 'descriptive statements comparing her to other examples' show up under literally every post with her, word for word. So yeah, that anon was right

>>534743689
Oh but it's different when Steph and Izzie are involved right? Because they're the right amount of faggot?

>>534743689
Amanda isnt hot though. Her hair makes her look like she's in special ed.

>>534748217
But they are obsessed, it comes out of nowhere

>>534765840

>>534756298
Careful, if you say that they might label you as obsessed

>>534743689
>Because Square has no care for queer characters
based. that's how it should always be.

>>534617084
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>>534755923
Izzie is a non-character that's not even relevant, and TC!Steph falls within the edges being sandblasted approach compared to her BtS part.

>>534617084
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>>534782650
SEETHE
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>>534782096
It is extremely rare, but still a W for SE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INXQqgwGD5U

>>534782708
S L O P C O N S U M E R
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I fucking love Swann

>>534790912
Nigga you literally are a LRfag

>>534794146
She looks like a fat version of Max

>>534794146

Cheap knockoff Max with an elderly voice

>>534794146
my shayla

>>534794809
Yes, and?

>>534794146
Me too, but Michel needs to branch it out for the next game. If Swann is not the MC anymore, would be nice to have a change of pace with a different MC that might be a little more assertive and dominant, like an adult Dylan.

>>534795963
>next game
It flopped in sales, you’re delusional if you think it’ll get a sequel

>>534794989
An improvement in every sense of the word.

The fighting here is worse than the console wars on /v/ ages ago.
I love LR and LiS, can't we all just be friends without engaging in pointless faction wars? At the end of the day we look like a bunch of school children saying; "My toy is better than yours!"

>>534796819
They has a M2 project in their pipeline for the Montreal studio, hopefully they can bring it to fruition if their report of Lost Records meeting their sales expectations are positive for the long term.

>>534798065
it's mostly the two retards who spam DE posts and people falling for it, they don't believe in anything but troll, regardless of game quality going down in the LiS titles

>>534798065
The good LR discussions ended a good while ago which is a good thing since the fat schizo can't ruin them with their pigheaded takes. Everything but the kitchen sink has been discussed in regards to LiS though you can still get some good discussions except for DE since it's a point of contention. It doesn't help that most of its haters never played it and the few that did try their best to discuss it here get derailed by those weirdos with their reddit-tier takes. It's a lose-lose situation currently.

Ignore the troll above, they always repeat the same shit every time and act like they are le victim for not cathering to them, even when the general did the same damnation memoriae for LiS2 and nobody had an issue going foward

>>534799214
The irony is palpable

>>534799214
Troll or not, they're right. The meaningful discussion about LR ended back in April. After that, there was a bit of spiteposting. These days, it's mostly just one person posting about LR - that same chick who keeps making the threads. And she's also behind the Joyce’s ring posts, so yeah, it's fair to seriously doubt her sincerity. Everyone else here is just waiting for news about DE2 and most of the posts are about that anyway

>waiting for DE2
More like waiting for a car crash, and even in the main sub there's not much interest beyond that. The hype is dead in the water, look how much care tha latest greentext post has gained so far. That's why I'd rather have more Lost Records content than to see D9 downfall alongside the LiS franchise

LRfags should create and discuss on their own general