Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #8521 - Sonic Loves Human Men Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Jet Stream | Amy, Cream, & Big the Cathttps://youtu.be/qYMbDyCMHtU
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Bustedhttps://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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>>534367124
This is way too early, remind me never to create new threads when I'm drunk agian
If you don't like the wind then you don't like Sonic. It's that simple.
>>534387413 (OP)Sonic what the fuck man you can't do that dude
>>534399553Shadow looks so sexy when he's sleeping. In fact, he looks sexy doing anything
Sonic is the FUCK. He has SEX with Surge all the time. They are in love with each other. She is his loyal tsundere wife. They bonded. This is where both of their story arcs were headed since the 90s. It's more interesting than SHITAMY and if you disagree with me you don't understand the wind, you're not a Sonic fan. You hate Sonic.
>>534387413 (OP)Sonic would do this
>>534399803>Donโt understand the windIf Sonic ever had any sort of romantic or sexual connection, by the logic of him being the wind, itโd be a pump and dump and then heโd fuck off. And thatโs if he even had one at all, since he most likely wouldnโt either way.
>early baking to shill your AI sh"art" as fast as possible
>>534387413 (OP)B B Based! Shame he isn't bottoming here
>>534400418KYS as soon a humanly possible.
Windchads:
>Love Sonic authentically
>Intelligent enough to understand that the Earth revolves
>Emulate Sonic to become stronger, better people
>Encyclopedic knowledge of Sonic because they love Sonic
>Appreciate subtle character writing, metaphors, and nuance
>Want Sonic to stay true to his nature as an unstoppable force
>Want Sonic to be inspirational to both other characters and real people
>Respect the original vision by the original creators
>Don't need Sonic dumbed down to like him
>Probably a talented artist or game dev
Anti-windcels:
>Hate Sonic for who he is and want it changed
>Need the character to be "relatable" like a 5 year old
>Too unintelligent to understand metaphors for babies
>Need everything spelled out for them but still fail to grasp it
>Stuck pining over dead characters, comics, and shows
>Hate the games but demands the games cater to them anyway
>Self-insert as Sonic for wish-fulfillment fantasies because their life sucks
>Think character development = making Sonic deal with puberty or politics
>Can't handle that wind doesn't compromise or get tied down
>Know barely anything about Sonic and make surface level fuck-ups
>Probably a talentless loser or a tranny
Why do windhaters hate being reminded that the earth spins? Isn't it good to educate children?
>>534400856Because the Earth is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth.
>>534399610Sex with Shadow
>>534387413 (OP)Kill yourself, holy shit.
>>534400865>m.jpgShadougesisters, we save low-res mobile versions of Shadouge art...? We are mobilekeks??
>>534400890He looks so dejected lol
>>534400748Do you believe windnic can have friends and stay in one spot before running off to another adventure?
>>534401181There is no windnic. Only Sonic.
>>534401079I consistently see knuxouge posts with reddit filenames. I'll take mobile posters any day.
>>534388128When you said too early, I thought you meant like 10 posts. I didn't realize until now that it was over 2 hours ago lol
>>534401172In true nuance fashion he should be like this with anyone that overwhelms him.
>>534401216Sonic, you're right. Do these fall under the wind code?
>>534400748Quark, you have to stop.
>>534387413 (OP)>>534388128Good night and hope you sober up soon
I will post ic Sonamy art that I find.
>>534402072She has to continue. She's doing a great job exposing you.
>>534387413 (OP)Love yourself hmoma bro, be at ease knowing that you are not alone here. We all love boys here
>>534402264It was, Evidently Chickentown.
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>>534402909>>534403061Is Tails the Perfect character design or what?
>>534400890Why does Westie Sonic and Shadow content mirror Sonic and Amy's dynamic from the 00's?
>>534402072Why? You can't just enter a Sonic general and go "I hate Sonic".
>>534402130Best and cutest girl.
>>534403257Part of why I hate anyone that just makes Sonic blue Amy and it's commonly in his ships with rivals.
>>534403738I love these where they're just aesthetically posing.
According to Sparky Amy is just female (aka pink) Sonic, which also means Sonic is blue Amy
>>534404095Sonic came first.
>>534404543So? They're literally the same character
>>534404438Another Rouge bed invitation groping please?
>>534404616The first character cannot be a derivative of another.
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>>534403983i will suck him off until he's a shivering, whining mess
>>534404684I didn't say Sonic is derivative of Amy, I said Sonic is literally the same character as Amy according to Sparky, the only difference is that Amy is female/pink
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I'm that fag who ripped/storytimed the Shadow manga and the first chapter of Blade of Courage. I've ripped some design notes about Shadow Generations and Movie 3, it has some interesting internal information about how the staff communicate and what programs they use for animation and rigging. For example, Jeff Fowler and co. apparently did video calls with SoJ.
I'll translate it all, but only if there's really interest, since it takes effort.
What -fags are the worst kind?
>>534405184Where are they from?
It sounds interesting, but I don't feel comfortable telling you to work on it if you're not feeling it. Does it include info on the writing process for the story of the game?
>>534404821Helllo Based Department
Let's see how he hangs in the big meeting.
>>534406083Who the fucj is this?
>>534406209WHO BITCH THIS IS?
>>534405184Do it, man. I'm interested.
>>534406721>Filename>Evan StanleyOh no
>>534405407CGWorld.
>>534406327I suppose I'll try some.
Here's an excerpt:
>Sonic x Shadow Generations was planned in conjunction with the release of the movie "Sonic x Shadow TOKYO MISSION" (Sonic 3). Due to development time constraints, it was decided to combine the remastered version of a past popular title with a new title featuring Shadow, who plays a central role in the movie. The development team consisted of approximately 150 people, including 70 designers, 30 planners, and 50 programmers, with a total of over 300 people involved. The total development period was approximately two years.
>>534406781>he can't recognize evan's shitty eyebrows and chubby dwarf characters at first sight
>>534406967You guys are so mean. Her style is fine.
>>534406939No wonder the Shadow portion came out so good.
So genuine question. Hesse is not working on TailsTube anymore. However, he still apparently works at SEGA. What sort of scheduling issue or internal situation led to him having to drop involvement in TailsTube? Do we just not know? Or am I just out of the loop and there is a known reason?
>>534407080How do you know he's no longer working on them?
>>534407080We don't know. Also, he was never the sole writer for TailsTube, it was a team effort and we don't have a full list of credits.
>>534407225>Also, he was never the sole writer for TailsTube, it was a team effort and we don't have a full list of credits.Oh, I knew this/I figured as much. I was just curious why he specifically is no longer as hands-on.
>>534387413 (OP)If Sonic fell in love with a human it would be with a children because they are similar size
>>534407171Tyson Hesse said so. They're still making them, but without him.
>>534407006I can't decide between who is worse between evan and abt
>>534407298>If Sonic fell in love with a human it would be with a children because they are similar sizeESLpedo
>>534407293I assume he's working on other things.
>>534407323When did he saythis?
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Reminder: Silver has nothing but W's in IDW
1) Saving Sonic from Starline's IED thus possibly saving the future.
2) Being one of the character who wasn't infected by the Metal Virus in the end.
3) Beating E-107 Theta (w/ assist from Sonic)
4) Victory against Zor (w/ assist from Whisper)
5) Saving Shadow from Fake Emeralds (w/ assist from Catgirl)
6) Surviving Mimic's attempt to assassinate him with a giant fish
He's the opposite of Jobdow, nothing but W's.
>>534407709No one in the comic respects him, though.
>>534407709okay i'm sure steven universe has plenty of w's too he's still a bitch
>>534407709>Surviving Mimic's attempt to assassinate him with a giant fishThis sounds hilarious
>>534407769But they have boobies
https://youtu.be/PkU49S4G8Mw
>Watching YouTube
>This shows up in my feed
Holy kino
>>534407869i posted this yesterday too, it was neat.
>>534407769Sorry, Ersatz Whispercel, itโs just not the same.
>>534407869>Sonic Adventure 2 if 1990s 4kids dubbed it
>>534407869I'm literally listening to that right now
>>534407869>That Cosmic WallMy fucking DICK?
>>534407456https://bsky.app/profile/tysonhesse.bsky.social/post/3ltmtfw2blk2a
>>534403257true, everyone knows shadow is the bottom.
>>534407869>Soundtrack of the Rule 63 timeline of Sonic.
>>534407709Yeah I'm sure being characterized as faggot Michael Cera is a plus for silverfags. Yeay sissyver keeps winning!
You dumb fucking retard
>Last thread
I think it's more than reasonable to be a jp purist given how off-base the western media gets.
I'm not one myself but it's just not difficult to imagine. If you're introduced to this series and its narrative in the games, stuff like Archie, IDW, SatAM? Not the same. Basically feels like another franchise with the same character designs.
>>534408906Michael Cera would honestly be a solid choice to voice Silver in the movies. Too bad he most likely wonโt be appearing in them.
>>534407828evil boobies....
>>534408906Counterargument: See IDW Jobdow
>>534409020>lame white guy of Hollywood is for silverYeah I'm sure that's a plus for Silver and that's what silverfags always wanted
>>534408906>>534409097>IDW>Ian's vent for hating on Shadow and Evan's fanfic
>>534409121Itโs an ideal choice for a character as bland and effete as Silver.
So are Shadow and Silver both jobbers in the toilet paper continuity?
>>534409020I don't think non silverfags can comprehend the sheer pain of Silverfags hearing everyone consistently base their interpretations of him on the dub or his idw comic appearances
>>but fiona, what if-
>nothing ever happens
>>534409097Is not a secret that idw hates strong masculine characters like Shadow you're lucky that's he's untouchable. Come to think of it Knuckles is always straight masculine characters like shadow why don't they make him gay too? Do they worship black echidna cocks?
>>534409016How do you settle with the fact that SoJ approves everything IDW does?
>>534409368NTA but Silver sounding like Scott Pilgrim sounds simultaneously hilarious and like the ultimate final send off insult to his character.
>>534409482Knuckles barely has a presence in the comic.
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Any /rumble/bros here?
>>534409514I don't hate IDW. I like it well enough. I just think in the end of the day the comics aren't even given that much consideration.
I don't imagine Iizuka or Kishimoto gritting their teeth at the dreaded americans raping their dear vision or anything.
At the same time I really don't imagine that IDW is held to a very high regard.
>>534409514I doubt they even know about even half of the shit that happens in the comic.
>>534409682Is the game out yet?
>>534387413 (OP)In-character Crackships!
>>534410695Made for incest. She is royalty after all.
>>534411026>Made for incestBruhโฆ
>>534411026No. That is disgusting.
>>534410695This is what it's like trying to watch Sonic Underground
>>534411434Alright, what's the edgy story to this pic?
>>534411434>no metter what happens
>>534411667No information for the context?
>>534412013>metter What does a city in Georgia have to do with Sonic?
>>534407869My favorite here is the rendition of the Pumpkin Hill song. Hands down.
>>534407709>E-107 ThetaWhat?
>looks it up...This is just a Zeta clone, but without the Dreamcasts.
>>534412912>>534413056I donโt know why but I find the sheer tininess of the baby really funny.
I like silver, I don't mind if he is the female in my gay ships
You know what would be fun? A Sonic Frontiers Shadow DLC coming out of nowhere.
Did Silversissies really shit up the last thread because they feel threatened by Amy? I genuinely hope Amy usurps this faggot's role, it would be karmic justice against Nakamura's poochie that gets everything handed on a platter for free just for being a male hedgehog. Shit ass character
>>534411391Sonic flaunts his ass and cock?
>>534387413 (OP)Boyposting early in the morning I see
https://www.animate.co.jp/onlyshop/27246/
>>534414649Silver was the most voted character for the next movie. You could say that Amy is shitty corpo Hollywood pedo mandate decision and Silver is the True People's choice
what's funny is Fiona is shipped with Tails when she canonically has shown interest in SILVER
>>534415083The Core Four!
Choose your sticker /sthg/.
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>>534415182For some reason, whenever I see Amy like this or like pic related, I'm always reminded of circus seals, complete with the barking.
>>534415305uh okay? I love seals, so that's nice I think
>>534415435She looks like a cat from this angle.
>>534415182>poseIS AMY ROSE A NAZI?!?!?
dick size:
knuckles > shadow > sonic > silver > tails
refute this
>>534415925>refute thisI think only Sonic Team can do that.
>>534415925Incels are so weird
>>534409682The skins cost $100 in Ausfailian dollars :"(
Sonic the Hedgehog, Shadow the Edgehog, Silver the Faghog
>>534414454What would it even be about?
If IDW and Prime are supposedly meant to be โcanonโ, how the fuck does that actually work?
>>534417035sonic remembers it happening and might bring it up in the supplementary hellokitty.
>>534417035Also, if Prime is canon, can IDW make a story arc surrounding it?
>>534417035Also is the new manga also meant to be โcanonโ or is it not?
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=sonia_the_hedgehog+
Jesus fucking christ
>>534417035It just does because the characterizations aren't the parts that matter, it's the events. Sonic acting horrendously out of character doesn't matter in the long run because all that does matter are the major parts that took place. If we get a writer that wants to write sonic in character, but also acknowledge the events of idw or prime, they will just do that without actually addressing the difference in how he acts. It's that simple.
>>534417161According lore master Chris, it's not. Or at least, "the creative vision intends it not to be" even though it's getting an english release.
i do not trust people who hinge the bread when making sandwiches
cut it all the way through cowards
what sonic characters have that feel?
>>534417396I guess my biggest question with that is: Why would the bigwigs at SEGA agree to let an American comic be canon but not let an actual Japanese manga be canon?
>>534417487According to chris, media that gets a worldwide release (it releases in english) gets to be canon. Its just branding. However this doesn't apply to the manga because they weren't originally intending to market these globally
>>534417714Why tie canonicity to branding? Doesnโt that create problems?
>>534417463Uhhh... Starline?
>>534417783Sega execs clearly have a different idea of canon than fans do or the way Ian and Evan try to spin it. Canon is just whatever content they want to be associated with the brand. Prime uses the game models (it was confirmed sega gave them the models), it reflects the modern brand. Idw uses the game designs and are the current partnership, its part of the modern brand. This is "canon" in the eyes of sega. They dont give a rats ass about the smaller characterization details or inconsistencies as long as looks like its part of the same stuff as the games
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If Wave have won, would she have been Juliet or Romeo?
>>534418776I really love romeo marine, she is so cute
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>>534418102Okay, so let's say the manga gets released in other regions and becomes successful. Would it still not be considered "canon"?
>>534415083https://files.catbox.moe/wotok0.jpg
>>534417206Don't use the Lord's name in vain you fucking imbecile
>>534419154Christ is King.
>>534417206I am confused, this is just porn?
>>534417206Whatโs the joke here? Is it about the results of the search?
>>534402264Amyfags wilรฑ never beat the besties allegations
>>534419518Took a lot longer than usual for this reply to come in. Step up your game, Duofag.
This movie but with Sonic characters
https://youtu.be/aSR8mOPBa0I
>>534420018You know, ร.
The letter between N and O in the Alphabet.
>>534420095Why did you capitalize โalphabetโ?
The internet was right to bully Sonic fans.
>>534420228Why did you not capitalize โInternetโ?
>>534419046Its possible. As of now, Chris stated its still intended to be non-canon media, but if it really becomes a successful facet of the brand, the state of it's canonicity could probably change. It wouldn't be the first time they made things retroactively canon.
>>534420267Because I don't give enough of a shit to do so. Why did the world decide that Sonic Team is allowed to get away with making nothing but shit games?
>>534420458So, Does canonicity actually matter?
>>534420512Kissu~
>>534420496>>534420570Neither of these characters display spectrum behavior.
>>534420512Lesbianism has got to be the fakest sexuality in the world. All they need is a good dick and they go back to their default setting
>>534420653Fuck no. The Sonic "canon" is wildly inconsistent and poorly maintained by soulless executives who change shit on a whim. Just pick and choose what you like instead of kneeling to the board's bullshit.
>>534420550Notice how he capitalizes โSonic Teamโ, but not โInternetโ, despite having said he thinks the Internet was right to bully Sonic fans, implying he does not respect the latter, but does respect the former, yet he only acknowledges something related to the latter as a proper noun.
>Silver the Fraudhog stans are getting uppityMan, it is too early for this shit.
>>534420869>Sonic fans once again failing to beat the autism allegationsAnd no, I don't care if this is a joke. Fuck off.
>>534420458Sounds to me like the west just wants their slop to be canon and nobody else's.
>>534420861Iโm getting the impression this guy is an anti-purist and also doesnโt like Sonic Team.
>>534420861I'm getting the impression that this guy like the Archie and the Tumblr comic
>>534421002Quite literally
Jap Purists and Windfags OWN this general.
>>534421040Oh wow, really? What gave you that impression? Look out everyone, we got a fuckin' telepath over here! Gold the Tenrec is real, I guess.
>>534421187What gave you the impression? We bully the shit out of windfags like krack and sparky.
>>534420861I'm getting the impression that this guy wants sonic transed and molested because it's relatable to him and his gay american friends
>>534421145Yeah, so what? What are you gonna do about it, suck Iizuka's dick harder? That'll sure show me.
>>534421338I want Sonic to not exist anymore, cause I fucking hate him.
>>534421443And you're a bootlicking drone who happily eats up shitty video games because your corporate masters told you to. Kill yourself.
>>534421578>weird vague anti-corporate messaging and emotional appeals out of nowhere
>>534421572Fleetway Tails is a bitch ass motherfucker too! Why didn't you take the shot, Miles? You useless piece of garbage.
>>534421470So you like Archieshit but also wish Sonic did not exist? Am I getting that right, Anon?
>>534421470>yes I want to be raped and molested and eat poop everydayNobody's stopping you. Also Sonic is the VVind, never compromise
>>534421718>trying to pretend that capitulating to the whims of the executive class and accepting sub-par products is somehow logical I repeat. Kill yourself.
If you're an Anti-Wind it translates to you want sonic to be gay furry tom holland
>>534421865Yeah, never compromise. Keep pumping out shit game after shit game until they like it.
>>534421818Yes, that's correct. Sonic being the worst "character" in the franchise has always been a consistent element across all iterations.
>>534421912The lowliest shitter game is more valuable than and of superior quality to the entire run of Fleetway Sonic, Archie Sonic, and IDW Sonic combined.
>>534422065This guy goes beyond just being anti-wind, heโs just outright anti-Sonic. To the point where I think he genuinely might be deranged.
Amy and her retarded virgin fags ruined the franchise under everyone noses:
>Psychic Powers Out of Nowhere
For decades, Amy was just a fangirl with a hammer. Now suddenly, Frontiers implies she has tarot-based precognition? Zero setup, zero explanation. If Silver pulled that, youโd scream "Mary Sue!" But when Amy does it? "Yass queen slay!" = Hypocrisy
>The Sonic Stalker Paradox
Amyโs obsession with Sonic shouldโve gotten her arrested or at least a restraining order. Instead, the franchise rewards her harassment with "hero" status. Imagine if Silver acted like that youโd call him a creepy incel. But Amy? "Sheโs just passionate!" = Double standards
>Character Assassination by Association โ
Every character around Amy gets dumber to justify her presence. Sonic tolerates her harassment, Shadow (a literal assassin) humors her, and Knuckles (who cracks mountains) acts like her hammer swings are a threat = bad writing
>Time Travel Theft
You whine about Silver "stealing" Amyโs Sonic CD gimmick? She was a damsel in distress who got saved by a past version of Sonic, thatโs not time travel, thatโs a plot hole. Silver actually interacted with timelines. Amy just screamed until Tails built her a hammer.
>Lore Contamination
Amyโs forced inclusion in serious arcs (IDW, Frontiers) turns high-stakes stories into sitcoms. Imagine Shadow the Hedgehog with Amy nagging him about tarot readings during the Black Arms invasion. Thatโs your "lore-friendly" character?
Amy doesnโt just break lore, she shatters it by existing outside the rules that apply to fucking everyone else. Silvers worst sin was a botched arc. Amyโs sin? Being a walking plot tumor that the fandom excuses because "uwu pink", kys.
>>534423935>because "uwu pink", kys.What if Silver was pink and had a hammer but didn't stalk Sonic?
>>534423935You posted this in the last thread and it is just as stupid now as it was there.
>>534414649>feel threatened by AmyPretty sure Amyfags just called them out out of nowhere and it caused them to get raped really well. truly some of you retards need drop the series and get a life before your mentality goes way too low.
what if Sonic was pink and had a hammer?
what if Sonic was black and had a gun?
what if Sonic was green and had a hoverboard?
>>534422038Sonic is just like the wind, blowing niggas.
>>534423935It seems like Amy fatigue is a new thing
what if Sonic was the wind?
>>534424176>Pretty sure Amyfags just called them out out of nowhere and it caused them to get raped really well. This is not what happened.
>>534424158>*says while crying*With Sally we could've had our life in shape, but you cucked fags cannot handle a little useless bland girl getting shafted.
>bestie pulls out her trusty 'Sonic Radar', courtesy of Miles the Jobber
>tracks him down to a clearing in Green Hill
>Sonic is there with Blaze, actually looking relaxed for once
>he's not running away, he's laughing at something she said
>bestie decides this is her moment
>"SONIKKKUUUU!"
>she sprints towards them, hammer out, ready for a hug-tackle
>Blaze doesn't even look annoyed, just raises an eyebrow
>a small, precise jet of flame shoots out and singes bestie's quills
>the force of it makes her trip over her own feet
>she lands in a heap, covered in soot, hammer clattering away
>total jobber moment
>Sonic glances over for a second before turning back to Blaze, completely unbothered
>bestie just lies there in the dirt
>a moment later, Tails lands next to her and sits down with a sigh, rolling his eyes
>"So, he told you that you're his bestie too, huh?"
>>534424365>"The movies anyone?">"Yeah i hate Silver because he took Amys spot">*Amy slander starts*>*they become quiet*Exactly what happens, anon was on point to just call it getting raped.
>>534424534>Hey! smoke that zaza somewhere else! I can't taste my flavored cigs thanks to you
>>534424534You got this reversed. Cream is a good girl. Marine is a scoundrel who drinks grog and make passes at vulnerable swabbies.
>>534424596You literally just admitted the Silverfags were the ones on the attack because they felt threatened.
>>534422149The fact you seriously believe that when the games don't even work is just sad. See, when I open up a comic book, there are panels that tell a story. When I boot up a Sonic game, I get an unplayable mess.
>>534422405Yes, I hate Sonic. Because he's not a character, and Sega keeps shilling him to fucked up levels. I don't want to play as someone's DeviantArt Mary Sue OC.
>>534424802Can you fucking read retard?
>>534424596>>*they become quiet*>*they ignore the seething walls of text*Ftfy.
>>534424912>t. Bootlicker For as much as I happily shit on Silver, I would still prefer him as the main character. Because at least he IS a character.
>>534424996>ignored it by not responding nor continuing with their retarded takes and their obnoxious tastesTrying to forget it like it's trauma is not badass you Amyturd
>>534424509>bestie scrambles to her feet, brushing soot from her dress with a furious energy>"'Bestiezoned'? Don't be ridiculous, Tails. That was a test of my devotion. And I passed.">she says this with the unshakeable confidence of a true believer>Tails just looks at the smoldering patch of grass where she landed. "...A test? It looked like you jobbed to a single fireblast.">"It's called playing the long game. Sonic can't show his affection openly, it would put me in danger from his enemies. Everything he does is a secret message for me.">she starts pacing, wild-eyed>"Blaze setting me on fire? That's code for 'our love is heating up, Amy'. Sonic ignoring me? That means 'I trust you to understand the plan without words'. It's incredibly romantic, actually.">Tails fiddles with a loose strap on his glove, trying not to smirk. "So the plan is for you to get roasted while he hangs out with another girl?">"Precisely! It weeds out the weak. It proves I'm the only one who truly understands him!">a fresh ping comes from her pocket. Her eyes light up with a manic glee.>"He's on the move! He's probably heading to our special place to apologize for the test and finally confess!">she hoists her hammer, now slightly charred, onto her shoulder.>"The hunt is back on! He can't escape destiny!">with that, she barrels off into the wilderness, screaming his name again>Tails watches her disappear, his amused expression slowly fading into a sigh>he kicks a pebble, looking down at his feet>"Yeah... destiny..." he mutters to himself.
The w*nd isn't cool.
The w*nd is cringe and lame.
>>534425107>Silver out of nowhere
>>534425140>"Hahahaha! You explained that nobody really cares about your screeching butthurt! T-that means I win! ... R-right?"
>>534387413 (OP)>hey i think ill check in on /sthg/ this mor-
Why are all of you faggots falling for such obvious bait?
>>534423935They paved the way for retarded fans to join and now act superior? i really hope the movie pulls a captain Marvel so they can just kill themselves already and rid us of these fan discourses.
>>534425205Seriously. This is why I refuse to believe that this Wind shit is sincere. There's no way in hell these fuckers actually find a bland, overpowered metaphysical concept that forces everything to revolve around it entertaining. Like, even a cult of personality still requires the presence of a personality.
>>534425337Everything is bait
That's why I fuck with all of you
Emotions are just retarded chemicals bro don't be mad
>>534409368Yeah, don't they know how hurtful it is to us Trve Silverfans when they do that? At least Amy gets to be the powerful badassery slayy girl who pegs Sonic. Silver goes from assertive red-blooded strong type to weak feeble widdle boy that's so fricking unfair man..
>>534425337>baitBitch, I have always hated Sonic, even before this Windshit came to the forefront. Ever since X, where he spent most of his screen time napping in a tree. And the more and more every character became contractually obligated to suck his dick really didn't help. That horrid blue rat belongs in the trash. Unironically, I fucking HATE that hedgehog.
>>534425423>>534425671Damn, everyone's already shitting on the w*nd without me doing anything. I'm so proud...
>>534425671>You tell em, sir. their blue critter is overrated
Notice when I post something profound and original that another faggot anon parrots off whatever concept I slap onto my post
>>534407709You keep saying this while ignoring all his losses in the comic you fucking retard.
>>534424858>>534425107This is not the same guy as earlier, he doesnโt type the same.
The wind is everything to me
>>534425546Holy shit, thatโs impressive.
>>534425885Why is Rouge threatening me with a gun while naked?
>>534425885Rougie's got a gun~
Iโm too neurotypical for this fandom.
>>534423935This. Fuck you Amy I hope Sonic falls in love with Sally and fucks her loose Choco whore pussy instead of your virgin tight pink cunt
>>534426014Fluffies whump franchise
>roboticization>zombies>toyification like picrel or Sonic Rumble>any loss of autonomy or agency>throw in groomer shit
/sthg/ is curing my autism
>>534425546To what end? All that money, and Japan STILL won't care. Sega, you need to take the L. This is just getting sad.
>>534425467the projection is crazy
>>534426202Whatโs with all this bait this morning?
>>534425186>bestie arrives at the "special place">it's just a random meadow with a single oak tree>she sees them>Sonic has Blaze pinned against the tree, and they're locked in a passionate kiss>bestie's eye starts twitching uncontrollably>she doesn't scream. she just stands there, vibrating with rage, her knuckles white on her hammer handle>"This is fine. This is a dream sequence. Sonic is having a nightmare and I need to wake him up.">she starts muttering, her voice getting louder>"Or maybe it's a loyalty test for Blaze! Yes! Sonic is testing her to see if she'll give in to temptation, but she's failing! He's going to be so disappointed in her and come right to me!">she takes a step forward, ready to intervene and "save" him from the failing test>a hand grabs her shoulder>it's Tails, out of breath from chasing her>"Amy, don't. Just... let's go. This isn't worth it.">bestie turns her head slowly, a terrifyingly blank smile on her face>"Worth it? Tails, our entire future is at stake! He's crying out for my help, can't you hear it?">Tails looks back at Sonic and Blaze, who are now just laughing and talking softly. "No, Amy. I really, really can't.">that's the wrong thing to say>her smile vanishes. "You're with them! You're trying to keep us apart!">WHAM!>the first hammer swing sends Tails spiraling into the air like in a cartoon>he lands with a thud, stars circling his head>"This... hurts... me... more than it hurts... you..." she shrieks between sobs, bringing the hammer down again>BAM! BONK!>Tails just curls into a ball, his namesakes twitching uselessly>"I'm such an idiot," he thinks to himself as the world gets hazy. "Why do I even try..."
>>534426202What are you fucking BABBLING ABOUT???? THAT'S NOT EVEN IN JAPAN YOU FUCKING SCHIZO.
FUCK. SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Why are these people bringing up Sally like sheโs canon?
>>534426286Facts are not bait, anon. You need to take the L as well.
>>534426379America won't care either, dipshit.
>>534426286You don't like getting triggered over hellokitty?
Thereโs so much falseflagging, contrarianism, tribalism, and discourse in these threads that I canโt even keep track of what anything even is or means anymore.
>>534426480Fuck off, shitposter.
>>534426391Traumatic reenactment
>>534426391Amyfags love to bring her up for the their worst demon is literally a non existent one
>>534387413 (OP)>Sonic my dear I'm home- OH MY GOODNESS!!
Shadow the Hedgehog inseminating Sally Acorn
>>534426391>Sonic the Hedgehog>canonAnon. When does Tails' Adventure take place?
>>534426560What?
>>534426564It doesnโt seem to be them this time.
>>534426632Before Sonic 2.
>>534426625Stop mentioning Shadally you're giving me anxiety
Are we being raided by /smbg/ again?
So why did the Archieshit not created by Penders (and just the other SoA characters in general) get vaulted? Iโm sorry, I havenโt studied that particular lore very thoroughly.
>>534426709Does it though? Does it really?
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>>534426709So these fox fucks have a bigger powerlevel than the entire kukku armada?
>>534426874Safety reasons. Penders was not the only person who threatened to sue.
>>534404095>According to Sparky Amy is just female (aka pink) SonicAmy being "Girl Sonic" does not mean painting Sonic pink and that's it.
No. It goes deeper than that. Take the concept of "Sonic" and filter it through the concept of "Girl", and you get Amy. Look at how fan girls change and reinterpret Sonic's character for their shipping nonsense, and that's the kind of framework Amy exists from. But really, Amy is the female version of everything Sonic is. She is not a mere genderswap of Sonic, she is the feminine reflection of Sonic.
Sonic, in-turn, is a masculine reflection of Amy.
And a very important distinction is that Amy is very passionate while Sonic is cool and aloof. Sonic is a cool guy, Amy is a genki girl. You're not gonna see Sonic cry or be overly emotional or affectionate, while Amy is nothing but emotional and affection to the most extreme degree.
>>534404924>Sonic is literally the same character as Amy according to SparkyFALSE. That was NEVER what I say about Sonic and Amy. If you ever thought that, you can't read.
>>534426779Sex with Sonic
>>534399553Smelling Shadow's morning breath
>>534426924Fuck off Sparky
>>534426874Because old Japanese executives are notoriously dismissive of anything that "they" didn't create. Rich people are petty assholes regardless of region.
>>534426924Go write your three paragraphs, Sparky.
>>534427016Are you the anti-Jap pro-Archie guy from before?
>>534417035SEGA/Sonic Team wants brand uniformity between them. The problem is exclusively with the writers of IDW and Prime not actually knowing what the brand is. Even if they think they do.
>>534426924Sparky-kun what do you think of this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20kw9Llsk0A
>retard still thinking Crossworlds is a flop when TSR almost made 4M with its crap roster and 0 marketing
Bait or mental retardation? Call it.
>>534426924Go finish your thesis, Sparky. And then pitch it to someone who actually cares.
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Sparky's acting up on X again.
Guys, you know what to do.
>>534426306From the art I've seen of her not only does she make massive earth shattering braps but she pushes out massive tree trunk shits.
Whenever I see Shadow I feel the urge to rape him
>>534427226>Reddit PowerscalingBoth Sparky and whoever he is arguing with are equally retarded.
>>534425423>Seriously. This is why I refuse to believe that this Wind shit is sincere.Stop projecting your own opinions on everyone else.
Sonic is cool. Legitimately, when he's handled well.
>still requires the presence of a personality.Sonic has a personality.
You don't know what "the wind" even means. All it means is that Sonic is defined by being a free spirit who lives life by his own rules and isn't tied down by anything, and this approach to living life is narratively treated as the ideal that others should follow. That's it.
>>534427191Nobody cares, salesfag. People buying a shit game doesn't stop it from being shit. It just means people have exceeding low standards.
>>534427067I don't have to do that today. It alternates, according to the schedule I use. Like, every other morning.
>>534427226Stop stalking my twitter.
>>534427405Mental retardation it is!
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While I know ALL of your fetishes, you aren't ready for ANY of mine.
>>534427345>Sonic is cool. There's nothing cool about soulless abominations.
>Sonic has a personality."He's like the Wind." is not a personality. It's literally some bullshit made up n the spot by a child.
>>534427405Or that they're having fun while the company is winning and you stay in your moms basement miserable and alone.
>>534427345So then why do Windfags like to exalt this idea of him as a blank slate force of nature larger than life personality without any actual complexity or interesting traits or meaningful connections? Why this obsession with trying to portray him as essentially a murder hobo but without the murder?
>>534427464Fuck me the show was so shit is caused a Knucklesfag to cry
>>534427291That's disgusting anon. You can't rape the willing.
>>534427464Post them, it's more interesting than the 1,000th wind argument.
>>534427514If Sonic is so terrible and so devoid of personality then how would you fix him? (Saying โheโs unfixableโ is a cop out.) (And so is โby removing himโ.)
>>534427563SONIC IS SO FUCKING COOL HE CAN STOP A FUCKING TRAIN WITH HIS HANDS LOOK AT THIS SHIT
YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS AWAY SO HE CAN TALK ABOUT GENDER IDENTITIES AND EXPRESS HIS FEEWINGS?
FUCK YOU
LEAVE THAT SHIT FOR THE SILVERFAGS (SORRY SILVERFAGS) SONIC IS THE WIND
>>534427685Get a job krack.
>>534427528>having fun>with a Sonic gameLow standards it is.
>the company is winning!You really ARE a corporate drone.
>>534427563Because 2+2=5, anon.
>>534427514>It's literally some bullshit made up n the spot by a child.Do you think Cream is the only time the wind was mentioned?
Play the games. Read the manuals, and stuff. Sonic & The Black Knight is an entire game where Sonic being "like the wind" is all over the entire story, directly stated by Sonic himself, and literally the THEME SONG for the game's main story. Knuckles' character profiles say that "if Sonic is like the wind, then Knuckles is like the mountain", even. It's simply the theme of his character.
>>534427514>There's nothing cool about soulless abominations.Sonic isn't a soulless abomination. In fact, here's a whole video dissecting Sonic's coolness and what it even means:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8uOj09pGmw
No, I did not make this video either.
>>534427464Let me guess:
Inhale vore followed by disintegration?
>>534427758>YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS AWAY SO HE CAN TALK ABOUT GENDER IDENTITIES AND EXPRESS HIS FEEWINGS?Why is this shit always brought up out of nowhere?
>>534427226Sparky is based, he defends the True Sega Vision of Sonic. You should've been grateful we have group of autist who cares about the authentic version of characters, and not just gay headcanon.
What do you do huh? You're just here bitching ,whining and complaining. You're not a drawfag, you're not an Aifag shit nigga you don't even post hot Sonic porn/gay porn. You bring nothing to this establishment so shut the fuck up
>>534427847>Abandoned building
>>534427563>a blank slateSonic is not a blank slate. He is not a self insert, he is not an avatar for you. Being a larger than life force of nature specifically means that he is not a blank slate for you to project onto, Sonic has his own defined personality and characteristics. To say that he's devoid of one entirely is the most ignorant and dismissive nonsense you could say.
What is so hard to understand about a free spirit that loves adventure?
>>534427758>it's either DeviantArt Mary Sue wank OR Final Fantasy VII, no in-betweenI think you may be too young to be posting on 4chan, mate.
>>534427685TIME STOPPING
HEIGHT DIFFERENCE
OVERSTIMULATION
STROKES AFTER HE ALREADY CAME
>>534427984>seething all day
>>534428008>What is so hard to understand about a free spirit that loves adventure?If thatโs what Windfags and characterization autists actually believed Sonic was, then theyโd just fucking say that. They donโt. You know this, but you deny it, because you are a disingenuous faggot.
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
>>534427758silly incel this is da REAL Sonic btw
>>534427940You should marry him, Krack. He's black just like Shadow.
>>534427820All you are doing right now is proving that Sonic has indeed always been shit. Stop typing.
>>534428008>larger than life force of natureI don't want to play as that. I want to play as a real character.
He is unironic proof that the West was right to change Sonic's character btw
>>534427843Maybe because westies are obsessed with shoving it into the franchise?
>>534428059HOLY BASED BASED BASED I kneel
Sonic is better with hfoma breeding sex btw
>>534428131>If thatโs what Windfags and characterization autists actually believed Sonic was, then theyโd just fucking say that.WHAT DO YOU THINK "LIKE THE WIND" MEANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?!
THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE WIND IS THAT IT'S A METAPHOR FOR FREEDOM. THAT'S WHY SONIC LITERALLY OUTRIGHT SAYS IN BLACK KNIGHT:
>I have no master, except the wind that blows free! THE ENTIRE POINT IS HIS FREEDOM.
FREEDOM.
F R E E D O M
THAT'S WHAT "IT DOESN'T MATTER IS ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT HIS WHOLE CHARACTER IS ABOUT.
HOW DO YOU NOT GET
THIS
SIMPLE
CONCEPT!!!??!?
AND YOU DARE CALL -ME- THE DISINGENUOUS ONE!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!??
YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY.
>>534428059DIIIIOOOO!
Stop posting about your stand.
>>534428008>What is so hard to understand about a free spirit that loves adventure?Nothing. I guess what Iโm saying is that it seems like a lot of Windfags seem to think that being โfreeโ and โlike the windโ somehow makes Sonic more than just a freespirited adventurer, but rather some kind of aloof god, which I think is, at best, reading too far into it and, at worst, just plain boring and a fundamentally bland and rather reductionist and otherwise uncool interpretation of a cool character.
>>534426379Itโs raped and traumatized by Japan purists and is trying desperately to turn this into a ritual post, please understand.
>>534428216Not krack also I'm straight but if I'm gonna marry a male I'm going to marry a blobian "boy"
>>534427843It's the default strawman used to dismiss any criticism.
>>534428131>If thatโs what Windfags and characterization autists actually believed Sonic was, then theyโd just fucking say that.This. The fact they have to couch their bullshit in pretentious wank is so telling.
Sonic being the only one to figure out the issue with the eggmoon is based. Not even kidding. It was based. Infinitely better than him bumbling around in Prime. Sonic is competent.
>>534428313Holy shit Anon actually caused Sparky to flip his lid.
>>534428487Again, this is why nobody takes W*ndfags seriously. Even Sparky admits that was shit.
>>534428313>WHAT DO YOU THINK "LIKE THE WIND" MEANS IN THE FIRST PLACE?!When you say it like that, sounds like a concept, not a character. Stop spewing pretentious whoreshit out of your retarded mouth, and maybe you'll start getting your point across. But you won't, because the brainwashing is too strong for you to talk like a normal person.
>>534428313Based based based based based, this is the most based thing I've read in a week
Only someone with a villain mind doesn't understand or hate the Wind.
>>534428487>SonicIQ of 178 (very smart. knows that the moon and the earth spin and orbit and are parts of a larger system
>Everyone elsestoopid as bricks. sonic's stoopid friends, cheerleaders and extras
>>534428704And if you think The Wind is boring and uninteresting?
>>534428271He is proof that the echoing sobs in the caverns of characterization and identity integrity never mattered. The masses will feast upon his body because that thing qualifies enough to be Sonic. The blade once again strikes the faithful as they are slaughtered for a new batch of beasts that will take what they are given
>>534428313> AND YOU DARE CALL -ME- THE DISINGENUOUS ONE!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!??>YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY.This guy legit said โYou dareโ like he is somehow important and expressing righteous indignation, which is straight up demented, given that he is a Sonic lore autist who somehow thinks thatโs a valuable skill, yet he calls other people โcrazyโ. The irony is actually unquantifiable.
>>534428763>mfw it turns out Willoughby's first name is Wendy
>>534428746LOL anti-windfaggots don't even watch the shit they criticize.
>>534428794Then youโre most likely a rape victim, groomed tranny who wants to self insert.
>>534419684Tails didn't make it. =(
>>534428806Characterization and lore doesn't matter in the face of good cinematography and good writing which is why the Nolan Batman movies were so successful despite pissing all over the actual Batman comics they were based on.
>>534428630Sparky is bending the knee to internet style "umm its illogical" arguments.
Nobody cares if it's illogical. They just pretend to so they can make a point. Does the story sell its point?
The point of the Eggmoon arc being that Sonic does his own thing and doesn't conform. If you know what you're supposed to do then do it. Sonic has no self doubts meanwhile the rest of the windless SHEEP would have let the world fall apart.
Meanwhile all of their free will was at stake. That was the theme of the episode. On one side of the spectrum is Sonic, on the other side is a total loss of autonomy.
>>534428313Seethe more, pseud faggot.
I'm sorry that was too gay of me I'm thinking of killing myself tonight sorry for posting that God it's so fucking gay
>>534428984Kill yourself. I mean it.
>>534420743>Neither of these characters display spectrum behavior.Amy called her Fortune Cards an old "hyperfixation" of hers that she got into in one of the Takeovers. That's spectrumy language for the cool kids.
>>534428351Why do archive niggers always bring up repeated posts as if that proves something against the poster?
Imagine if there were people who seethed at the idea that Superman represented Truth, Justice, and the American Way. That his character is made for those things.
That's anti-windfags. Sonic was always the wind, and you hate him. You act like he's "Taking away" something from you.
Sonic is forever the wind. I hope everyone forgets about IDW.
>>534428936Oh NOW you have a problem with other franchises having different takes on the material. God you're a boring cunt.
>>534429123It proves that theyโre always a gay faggot, like you.
>>534429143>Imagine if there were people who seethed at the idea that Superman represented Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Snyderfags dude. Even the DC fandom hates them.
>>534428957>Nobody cares if it's illogicalSpoken like a true w*man.
>>534428347Sonic is an idealized paragon for the concept of Freedom, and living life your own way. He himself is simply a free spirited nomad who travels the world in search of adventure, but the story around Sonic is framing this freedom as the lesson you should learn and follow. Sonic is presented as "the coolest guy ever" with this freedom of his being the reason why.
As such, any scenario that tries to frame that freedom as "bad", or "wrong", is antithetical to the core narrative of Sonic. It's like trying to have a Spider-Man story where he completely abandons and lets go of his responsibilities and never struggle ever again and that being the status quo from then on, that shouldn't happen.
Sonic's personality is also so defined by being "cool" and being "free" that he is both cool and aloof without being too phased by anything, and so free-spirited that he's as detached from worldly concerns as a Tibetan monk. But, Sonic is impulsive, impatient, short-tempered, he's not detail-oriented, he's very rebellious, very fiercely independent, so averse to "commitment" and ANYTHING that impedes on his personal freedom that he acts weird around Amy, and doesn't follow any rules but his own. But, he's also very wise and street smart due to being a nomadic wanderer whose traveled the world and experienced all sorts of things it has to offer.
But in the end, a true Sonic story is never really about Sonic himself. It's about someone else, while Sonic serves as a metaphor for whatever the story's theme is. Like 06's story being about Elise, or the Storybook series following that framework with Shahra and Merlina. Black Knight itself focuses on how Sonic's presence and actions impacts and conflicts with the very nature of that world, represented by the Knights who are all thematically opposed to Sonic as Shadow, Knuckles and Blaze are already.
Sonic is "the cool guy" that Tails aspires to be, that Amy dreams of being with, and so on.
Antiwindfags: "This isn't that different it's just a new spin on the character"
>>534429123>seething rape victim
>>534429143โTruth, Justice, and the American Wayโ is something that can easily be articulated in a single sentence without the use of stupid metaphors and which anyone who isnโt a retard from a turd world nation can comprehend.
>>534429302Changing Goku's character is minute in comparison to the rest of the problems of DragonBall Evolution.
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Windfags: "AAAAH HOW DO I BLINK?!! WINDNIC PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO BLINK!!"
>>534429247NTA, but I read this, and thatโs really great and all Sparky, but I canโt take you seriously after you blew up on that one guy and told that other guy to kill himself. Itโs very unprofessional and I expected more from a man of your intellect and wisdom.
Windchads:
>Love Sonic authentically
>Intelligent enough to understand that the Earth revolves
>Emulate Sonic to become stronger, better people
>Encyclopedic knowledge of Sonic because they love Sonic
>Appreciate subtle character writing, metaphors, and nuance
>Want Sonic to stay true to his nature as an unstoppable force
>Want Sonic to be inspirational to both other characters and real people
>Respect the original vision by the original creators
>Don't need Sonic dumbed down to like him
>Probably a talented artist or a game dev
Anti-windcels:
>Hate Sonic for who he is and want it changed
>Need the character to be "relatable" like a 5 year old
>Too unintelligent to understand metaphors for babies
>Need everything spelled out for them but still fail to grasp it
>Stuck pining over dead characters, comics, and shows
>Hate the games but demands the games cater to them anyway
>Self-insert as Sonic for wish-fulfillment fantasies because their life sucks
>Think character development = making Sonic deal with puberty or politics
>Can't handle that wind doesn't compromise or get tied down
>Know barely anything about Sonic and make surface level fuck-ups
>Probably a talentless loser or a tranny
>>534429143Superman is a real character. Clark Kent is mild-mannered, wholesome, and just a little bit sassy. He has a personality that can actually be described with words instead of rambling bullshit. Sonic is the soulless avatar of a mafia corporation. Cope.
>>534429247This actually makes sense. I think I understand Windfaggotry now. I can even see the appeal. Thank you for explaining.
>>534429143Yep we will never back down. Fuck you Ian flynnfag and your gay ass white women comic can die
>>534429302Yeah, but it's a crap spin on the character. The mere existence of differences between iterations is not the issue, it's the execution that matters. I would not give one fuck about Goku being in high school if the movie was good and they did interesting things with the concept.
>>534428657>When you say it like that, sounds like a concept, not a character."Concept" and "Character" are not mutually exclusive. Characters ARE concepts. By nature of being fictional characters in fictional stories. Some more than others, though.
"Batman" is a symbolic representation of an idea. That is what Bruce Wayne specifically decided he had to become. "Batman" is darkness, the night, vengeance, etc. In order to be something that strikes fear into the hearts of criminals, something immutable and immortal, that can not be destroyed. You may kill the man, but you can't kill the idea.
Sonic is like that. But for him, it's the wind. Freedom, independence, living life by your own rules, doing what you truly think is right even if the world tells you you're wrong. That is what Sonic embodies as a character, that is the central theme of the franchise that Sonic is the living mascot of. But that doesn't mean he himself isn't still a person in his own way.
Sonic is an individual living being with his own interests, passions, dislikes, tastes, and history. He likes Chili Dogs, he owns the Tornado, he's from Christmas Island, he doesn't want to be in a relationship, he likes napping on the beach and listening to rock music, he loves the ocean, yet he can't swim and sinks like a rock, he hates oppression above all else, he doesn't think of himself as a hero yet he has a strong sense of justice and can't ignore anyone in danger.
These are some of the traits that shape and define Sonic's personality. Acting like he doesn't have one at all is just nonsense.
>>534429442DBE Goku is more in character than IDWnic. He still enjoys fighting, he's still dumb, he's still a big eater. IDW Sonic is an abuse of the character.
>>534429734But he's worse written than IDWnic which is what really matters to a character.
>>534429483He did? I remember back when Sparky had a full-on mindbreak like 7 years ago. He was talking about killing everyone with lightning, yelled at his grandpa for telling him to move off the couch, and ripped the blinds off the window.
Sonic is wise and never wrong
Sonic has quirks, not flaws
Sonic always knows what to do
Sonic is the guiding wind
Sonic is a mystical fairy
Sonic is Santa Claus
Sonic is the Father figure
Sonic is not a character but an ideal
>>534429348Sonic is free, like the wind
>>534429143>>534429674guy randomly argues with and attacks someone he agrees with
>>534429483>and told that other guy to kill himselfThat wasn't me, I don't tell people to kill themselves. All life is precious, and I care about every single one of you, even the disingenuous bait posters that want me dead.
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This is difficult to do. But I translated this first page.
Imagine taking something that is core to the DNA of a character and trying to reshape it into something it can never be. That's like chopping off your own dick.
>>534429846At this point you might as well include โSonic is Godโ.
>>534430039Nothing wrong with that.
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>>534429971>even the disingenuous bait posters that want me deadNot him but why are you always so overly dramatic?
>>534429846>Sonic is Santa ClausDisagree. Santa Claus is more of a character than Sonic. Santa is a cheerful and kind man who stumbled into great power and uses it to bring the slightest joy to a dark and uncaring world.
>>534430002>150 people working for 2 years produced a 2 hour expansion to Sonic Generations What the fuck is going on at Sonic Team? They had far less people working on the games in the 90s and they finished half the Classic Sonic Saga in the same time.
Windkino: Yuta, just swing your sword. Leave the speeding train to me
Wesrfaggotry: oh no! I have to pause the scene so I can talk about my insecurities so the faggots at home can have something to relate to instead of aspire to. If only the psychopath who wants to kill me would redeem herself.
>>534430002Neat. You did well.
>>534430039Literally the divine wind.
Can anyone articulate what is so bad about the Egg Moon storyline aside from 'its to obvious!"
That's the point. Sonic even says " I thought everyone knew that already". It's not the gotcha you think it is.
>>534429971>>534430261Nice messiah complex brah
>>534430251Windnic would let Surge die at the end of her story and then go call Lanolin a stuck-up bitch and we'd never see either of them again.
>>534430502Would've been an improved outcome for both characters.
>>534430390>"What's wrong with turning literally everyone on Earth into drooling retards in order to make Sonic look good?"
>>534430502Sonic testing Lanolin the s same way he treated Zeena
>Sally gets a mere taste of windshit from Archienic
>Slaps Sonic's face so hard it spins around
This was Archie's best character moment. They almost understood.
So anons, one little question. Did those of you who watched the Eggmoon episode blind figure it out before Sonic told you?
Just wondering.
>>534430334I noticed a typo after I posted it but thanks. I'll work on the rest.
These antiwindfaggots are really uppity today, arenโt they? Almost relentless in their incessant desire to be wrong. Pale imitations, of course, of the greatness and true relentlessness of our PARAGON, THE WIND, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG. For evil cannot comprehend good, nor can it create anything of its own, it can only imitate and corrupt. All the antiwindfags can do is make fools of themselves. And be wrong. That is why Sparky takes them to task so effortlessly. That is why all they can do is sling shitty unclever insults around. That is why all they can do is keep seething and falseflaging. That is why they will fall.
>>534430717If the reboot didn't happen, Sally would get a full serving of Windnic and become gay as a result.
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>>534427464Fetishes are boring. I donโt care if you can only get hard to watching Tony the Tiger getting his knees inflated with a bike pump covered in peanut butter while a woman beats you with a cane until you shit yourself. Itโs all hollow, impersonal, clinical, ritualistic. Your โhardcore fetishesโ are nothing more than masturbatory Rube Goldberg machine. Thousands of hours of autistic conditioning from increasingly absurd types of pornographic content, only to achieve the same lackluster orgasms as any normie scrolling the front page of Pornhub.
I only care about love and connection. The rest of you are just toiling retards, increasing the complexity of your retardation. Itโs retardation nonetheless.
Before you think youโre any better or more hardcore for gooning your way into becoming a sadist/masochist, itโs the same exact shit. Same exact whacky substanceless routine, same exact waste of time and energy.
Enjoy your goon session.
>>534430440I'm not a messiah, I'm just some random guy on the internet.
>>534430390What's criticized about is that it uses the idea of Sonic doing what he wants even if others think he's wrong...
...in a story where the lesson in the end has Sonic be the only person in the world who remembers that planets move and stuff.
The funniest part of the EggMoon episode was Chris's immediate realization after Sonic says "The Earth Revolves".
>>534430717The Slap was totally unnecessary and only existed to make Sally look bad. She could have simply shrugged and moved on her monkey boyfriend or PDA
>>534431007He's not human
>>534430963It was funny how Sally ran away crying and Tails and Amy went to comfort Sonic while nobody went after Sally to do the same, lol.
>>534430502>and we'd never see either of them again.This franchise cannot let any character go no matter how bad. They'd be back
I try to give the comics a chance. But then I get reminded that they attract hundreds of people who just straight up hate how the characters are in the games
>>534430717Yep! Sally realized that dude is a tool and got the fuck out of that toxic ass relationship. Reminder that Windnic got cucked by a PDA.
>>534431128Shade and Sticks can't hear you from being stuck in the vault.
>>534430863>Iโm not a messiah, I'm just some random guy on the internet.Ah. Faux humility. A textbook behavior of narcissists and egotists, especially those with savior complexes, as well as of Dunning-Kruger cases.
>>534431117Tails and Amy? Sonic's best friends!
Freedom Furries? A group of fair-weather acquaintances!
>Opens the vault
>Squeeze Sally's boobs
>Closes it
>>534430839>become gaySally always came off as bi. But yes, Nicole winning the bowl because of mandates is very fucking funny.
>>534431331"Shade can help continue the Knuckles bloodline' has had me laughing for days and it's not even that funny.
>>534428008>What is so hard to understand about a free spirit that loves adventure?NTA but you're not giving an actual discernible personality when you say Sonic is "like the wind". It's the same problem with Silverfags trying to explain that he's "serious". These people don't care about themes and ideas they care about personalities they can get behind and vague ideas are not that. You need to give better specifics.
>>534431470I still fucking hate Sallycole on a conceptual level.
>>534429247Now you listen to ME while I run my mouth.
Sonic's lifestyle is impossible for all but a select few people in this world. Sonic is like Andrew Tate telling people to "just get rich" and "just bang 100 chicks". That shit is only gonna be achieved by a very very small percentage. Most people have to COMMIT, COMPROMISE, BE RESPONSIBLE, etc...
You, Sparky, when you are working on your project, you are not being Sonic, you are being like Knuckles. Focused, determined, dead-set on a single goal that you've spent YEARS achieving the skills to complete, and even more YEARS in the process of creating this fabled project. You are COMMITTED. You fight your urge to shitpost. You are not in a "Carpe Diem" state, you are in a "Carpe Noctem" state.
"Oooh but he did work hard, he's at the end of his character arc". Ok? Then show his character arc. Saying "They trained off-screen" is a common trope people use to pretend that a character isn't a Mary Sue. They do not show him EARNING his power. They do not show him EARNING his character. Yet, he tells you to EARN those things. Don't you see how pretentious that is? How utterly arrogant and ignorant the idea is? Him telling you to EARN things he himself did not EARN, while the story never shows anyone EARNING them, implying that it's impossible, and yet, he tells you to EARN them? That's not inspirational, that's depressing, that's beating me with a hammer over and over.
But you see, the only reason it feels that way is because I'm looking at it wrong. You, the player, are not Tails. You're not meant to be inspired by Sonic, or Superman, or any other Gary Stu. You're supposed to BE them. To self-insert in this escapist fantasy as a distraction. It's no wonder Sonic is the protagonist you play as, or that Superman stories are seen from his perspective. You're supposed to go "You tell them, Sonic, you show them the earth spins!" as if Sonic is a projection of your own will, a reflection of yourself in the present.
>>534428271Are we going to ignore that the Sonic brand almost outright died in the 2010s due to SoJ letting westerns almost do anything they wanted with the IP?
>>534430176He's very autistic.
>>534431202The comics mostly suck but donโt act like the game characters are anything special. The best iteration of each character most likely comes from media outside the games, and itโs largely due to the fact that SEGA said โfuck all these niggas except Sonicโ after 06
>>534431490We've had an anon who has been spamming "GUYS SHADE WAS MADE TO FUCK KNUCKLES THEY WERE GONNA GET MARRIED IN CHRONICLES 2" For the past two weeks
>>534431490Procreation is not allowed. Knuckles will stand in front of his useless rock all day and you'll fucking like it.
>>534431501Honestly, even in the recent games Sonic doesn't give much of his personal insights and he rarely has an internal monologue. Whenever he speaks to himself he says the obvious.
I'm not saying he has a personality, but in the end of the day that personality is rather mute by design.
I think the reason he gets mischaracterized so often is specifically because he rarely does anything that makes it obvious how ooc his western incarnations are. IDW tries really hard to establish new personality traits for him and they stick out because of this, leading to backlash.
We don't know gamenic's opinion on killing but we know it cannot be "it's never acceptable because it takes away freedom".
Does anyone here even actually like the franchise or do they just get off on arguing about it?
>>534431656Are we going to ignore that the japanese were the ones that ruined the franchise in the first place that allowed westerners to gain control?
>>534431656SoJ signed the Nintendo exclusive deal and fucked Sonic with Lost World and sabotaging the Boom games. Meanwhile the West gave us Mania which was the only good Sonic game after Generations.
>>534431848Okay but the Meta Era titles were still primarily written by Americans and it shows.
>>534431514I remember requesting this man fwa is so based
>>534431608That sounds like your problem, mate.
>>534431848>ManiaShovelware that has been mogged by Superstars.
>>534431613Sonic doesn't need to earn anything.
>>534431821Sonic would have never been successful in the first place without Tom Kalinske, although the average fan probably doesn't even know who that is.
>>534431920And the shit games like Lost World and Forces were developed by the Japs and it shows.
>>534432080We know, anon. You should have been born rich.
>>534431821The Japanese didn't ruin anything. They simply wanted to be nice to westerns since they whined, bitched, and moaned about the Sonic franchise since SA1. They didn't know that westerns would drag the Sonic IP to it's lowest point in sales and reception while rival franchises like Crash Bandicoot was outright destroying Sonic since the N-sane Trilogy.
>>534431367It's not 'faux humility'. All I am is just that one guy everyone hates for some reason. Even IRL, my grandfather and two of my friends always have nothing but criticisms against me and always remind me of everything I'm doing wrong, or not doing enough, or whatever. Even when they say they care about me, it's hard to believe it when all I hear is every single mistake I make or whatever, and it all sounds no different than the people here most of the time. So its easy for me to care about what my haters think when they sound no different from my best friends and the family I live with.
I mean, sure, it's not everybody. Energy doesn't treat me like that, there's others who don't treat me like that. But it doesn't make what they say any less legitimate.
I'm no messiah. There's nothing messiah worthy about me. I admire Sonic and what he represents so much, but my greatest weakness in life is my inability to just follow it myself. To actually be like Sonic, in the ways that matter. The hardest thing in the world is for me to just do what Sonic does, and take action immediately and not care what people think. But how can I not care what people think when there's a thousand voices all over telling me everything I'm doing wrong? And how can I jump into something blind when I know there's a billion ways it can go wrong? If I'm gonna do something, I wanna do it right. I don't wanna mess up, and I don't wanna give everyone more reasons to hate me.
The other day I was talking to my friends, and they were saying a bunch of stuff to mess with me and make fun of me and insult me, and I got so mad I punched my bedroom window and shattered it, and then cried about it because I didn't wanna break anything and I knew my grandfather would be upset with me, and he was until he saw me crying and breaking down over it or whatever, and now every time I look at that window, all I see is another reminder of...
... Why am I talking about this.
Point is, I'm no messiah.
>>534430723No one has been able to form a cohesive argument against the Eggmoon episode. They all just pretend that the episode was meant to be taken absolutely seriously. It's a mostly comedic episode with a hilarious ending. Sonic saved them all from a date worse than death because they all overlooked the obvious.
>>534431848Mania only happened because Iizuka was pushing for it. If it wasn't for him, Mania wouldn't even exist.
>>534432206The West saved Sonic after the Japs nuked it with 06
>Archie comics kept the fandom alive>The Boom cartoon made people forget the shit games>Mania was developed by Western Sonic fans >The movies which saved Sonic were created by the West What have the Japanese even done since 06 to fix Sonic reputation? Absolutely nothing
You can admit that IDW and the movies would be better if they starred "Windnic" right?
>>534431613>You, Sparky, when you are working on your project, you are not being Sonic, you are being like Knuckles. Focused, determined, dead-set on a single goal that you've spent YEARS achieving the skills to complete, and even more YEARS in the process of creating this fabled project. You are COMMITTED. You fight your urge to shitpost. You are not in a "Carpe Diem" state, you are in a "Carpe Noctem" state.My project would get done a whole lot faster if only I could be more like Sonic... and not worry so much about every single way it could go wrong.
>>534432437Frontiers.
But I largely agree. Sonic Team had success fall into their laps through the efforts of westerners. Unfortunately westerners don't understand how to make Sonic good.
>>534432386iizuka is one of the few old guard left that has touched a classic sonic game before. he remembered how much people love them
>>534432279>No one has been able to form a cohesive argument against the Eggmoon episode.Making everyone else stupid to prop up the main character is bad writing because it's disingenuous and forced.
>They all just pretend that the episode was meant to be taken absolutely seriously.Trying to retcon anything that makes you look bad as parody is also disingenuous and forced.
>It's a mostly comedic episode with a hilarious ending.That is a straight up lie.
>Sonic saved them all from a date worse than death because they all overlooked the obvious.It's an eclipse. The hundreds of thousands of astrophysicists in the world all suddenly forgot that astral bodies move? Go fuck yourself.
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>>534424528*wife in question*
>>534432546Look what good Windnic did for the games back in the 2000s
>>534432731Again, you're just picking at the inconsistency with science instead of examining the themes.
>>534432437>Archie comics kept the fandom aliveComplete horseshit.
>The Boom cartoon made people forget the shit gamesAlmost killed the franchise.
>Mania was developed by Western Sonic fansForgotten.
>The movies which saved Sonic were created by the WestOnly saving grace.
>>534432265I donโt believe you have friends. I also think this entire block of text was something you wrote to score sympathy points. It didnโt work. I donโt sympathize with you. I donโt empathize with you. I donโt even pity you. If anything you said is actually true โ and I donโt believe it is โ then your overly critical abusive family members and your so-called โfriendsโ are exactly right. You are scum. You care more about a blue rat than about actually doing anything productive. You engage in online arguments to feel more important than you actually are. Youโre just so fucking dense and autistic that you donโt even realize it. Itโs actually pathetic. You mask your insecurities by lecturing people. When youโre challenged in debate or ribbed on by others, you lash out and break stuff like a fucking Neanderthal. Your lecturing of others over Sonic lore is functionally no different from your grandfatherโs alleged lecturing of you about your shortcomings. Except that itโs over something far more meaningless. No one cares about what you think. Do the world a favor and fuck off and never reproduce.
>>534432546No. Windnic is boring trash.
>>534432586>Frontiers....
>>534432546I can admit that making Sonic the Wind should be standard. I can also see there's a difference between SA2, Sonic X, and Forces, and only one of those Windnics is good for a story
Anti-Windfags sound like the bad guys in the games who oppose Windnic.
What will it take to end the US vs JP Sonic debate once and for all?
>>534430759This post was an underappreciated gem.
>>534432547No, it would go a lot faster if you WEREN'T like Sonic and stopped fucking posting here so much and actually stayed still duty-bound in one place instead of having your ADHD-ridden brain jumping from one thing to another. Same goes for me.
>>534432265>my haters sound no different from my best friends>my friends were saying stuff to insult meSparky...those...aren't your friends if they're bullying you to the point that you cry. Do those "friends" always do that to you? What do they say to you?
>>534432879>โ>โAI-written post. An hero.
>>534427834Favorite band? Whirr
Was Archie glorified fanfiction?
>>534432437>Archie comics kept the fandom aliveIt only kept the SatAM section of the fanbase alive. Most Sonic fans haven't read the Archie comics, especially nowadays since it's irrelevant to the franchise.
>The Boom cartoon made people forget the shit gamesIt didn't, anon. People still did not like the Boom trilogy. Just because a mediocre cartoon is somewhat watchable doesn't mean it can salvage a dying brand.
>Mania was developed by Western Sonic fansIizuka was the one who pushed for Mania's creation.
>The movies which saved Sonic were created by the WestFrontiers did that.
>What have the Japanese even done since 06 to fix Sonic reputation? Unleashed? Black Knight? 06 was only negatively received in the West, by the way.
>>534432870The themes are insulting bullshit, and bordering on the Frank Miller flavor of fascism. Sonic being this fucking demagogue who knows better than everyone is quite frankly disgusting. And ironically, it clashes fundamentally with the the theme of freedom.
>Sonic is free as the wind~! But you're not. Sit down, shut up, and do what your lord god Sonic tells you, drooling apes.
>>534432879Ayo
AYO
Is this BITCH bullying my boy SPARKY?!!
Why don't you pick on someone your own size, motherfucker?
>>534433212>AI-written post. An hero.Just because a post contains a dash doesnโt make it AI, retarded faggot. Rope yourself.
>>534433253Yes, and it was unironically better. Fuck knows I had way more fun reading it than I ever did playing any of the games.
>>534433372>Gets into crossworlds
>>534432265>>534433212>sparky is so mentally deficient he thinks that his bullies are his friends>OR>sparky is so tone deaf that he thinks his friends abusing him is normal and they are still his friendsUnlike that other asshole, I actually do pity him. Because that is just sad.
>>534433462>I hate Sonic!We know, bro. You can leave because that Archie garbage isn't coming back.
>>534432879Everything I said was the truth.
My friends are real people, that I've known since childhood. It's specifically two individuals I'm referring to, that I call "Eclipse" and "Cosmix" as that's the name of the characters I have based on them in my project. Eclipse and Cosmix often just bully me and make fun of me and insult me every time I'm in a group call with them or whatever. But if I say anything about it, they'd just complain that I'm ignoring any time they were ever positive towards me, or that I just have a 'weird perception' of them. Like, as if all the times they spent going out of their way to act no different from many of you guys towards me, is just "regular friend behavior', and that I should stop acting like I have a female body part for a heart or whatever the heck.
>>534433212But these two also go out of their way to help me by sending me money for stuff, or whatever, when I really need it. Although I hate to ask because I don't wanna be a burden on anybody, and I don't wanna ask for something like that if I can't pay it back or whatever. So, I don't know... It's just how they are as people, and I don't wanna say they're wrong for being themselves. I'm just very sensitive, in general.
My friends care about me, they just love bullying me for some stupid reason, and they generally act that way towards each other as well sometimes. I just don't have that sense of humor, I can't stand that sort of thing, and so they end up targeting me a lot. But I think I'm mostly just making it sound worse than it actually is. They did apologize after I broke me bedroom window, and they heard me on the phone crying about it and my grandfather yelling at me and then comforting me and whatever, and they realized they went too far and stuff. But I know them, they'll do it again and forget this ever happened until its time to bring up all my past mistakes to make fun of me or criticize me yet again.
Likely 'cause they're ENTP & INTP.
>>534433559>But these two also go out of their way to help me by sending me money for stuff, or whatever, when I really need it. Thatโs financial manipulation. Itโs a form of abuse.
>>534433462Kill yourself Bulmanigger.
The increased sales for every game, the increased budget for the next racing game, the improved quality of SxSG, all of it is because the movies are carrying this franchise on their back
Why do the people who hate in-character Sonic sound so threatened by him? They get hysterical over him being so powerful, confident, and wise.
>>534433549Oh no, I don't have to worry about Sega of Japan raping the thing I like. How terrible.
>>534429302Why did they even change Goku's character in the movie?
>>534433254>Unleashed>Black Knight >saving Sonic at all Yeah the pink slip Maekawa got from SEGA after Black Knight really shows how much good that game did for Sonic
>>534432873>Mania>ForgottenObvious bait is obvious
>>534433559>Likely 'cause they're ENTP & INTP.โฆDo you actually believe in personality quiz bullshit?
>>534433752Archie already raped your SatAM characters to the point they're met with hostility by most of the fandom.
>>534433740Once Jim Carrey or Jeff Fowler leave, the movieverse is actually fucked. I don't think we can ever find a better Eggman or a better director apart from these two.
Why are Windfags in denial that Sonic has become a textbook Mary Sue straight out DeviantArt? This is the actual problem. This shit right here. Why even bother having a story when there's no stakes? This shit is not okay.
>>534433979Uh no, it didn't. Quit being salty about Archie jpnigger
>>534433503First post here to actually make me sad in a while.
>>534433991[Insert Copypasta About How Eggman Should Actually Be Afraid Of Sonic Here]
>>534433821Name the last time the general talked about that shit, retard.
>>534433487She probably wasn't even looking at the screen when when spongebob got revealed
>>534433042By letting Japan have full control over Sonic brand and becoming more popular in Japan, which is not gonna happen
Also letting play testers for new games be western Sonic fans
>>534434048>Uh no, it didn't.Now this is some prime cope.
>>534433979SatAM and Archie Sonic are two different things. Unlike you, I can accept that this is how multimedia franchises work.
>most of the fandomNice telling on yourself that you're completely isolated to /sthg/.
>>534434105It was talked to death after the umpteen-gazillionth Classic vs. Modern debate.
>>534433740I want to tie Moviedow up and ride him until he cums. He can't escape because he has magic energy-draining bracelets on or something.
...Sorry you were saying?
>>534434239>Nice telling on yourself that you're completely isolated to /sthg/.Nobody cares about those dead characters outside of their dwindling fandom, dude. Get real. People care more about the IDW and movie characters at this point.
>>534433748Holy shit, you W*ndfags really do sound like women.
"Why doesn't he wanna date me? He must feel threatened and insecure about my competence as a girlboss!"
I might be onto something here.
>>534434359>IDW shillingLook man you can defend the honor of the games without going that far
>>534434330That's bait "debate". I'm talking about genuine discussion.
>>534434196Nickelodeon tubers for the most part didn't care for her hosting they liked tyla tho
>>534434359>"I don't care, which means nobody cares!"This is the mentality of a child. No wonder Windfags are the way they are. Their Sonic represents the "world of ME" they experience.
>>534432546Define better.
The movies would definitely be less financially successful if Sonic was less of a traditional sympathetic kid character but I'd find him being less of a baby to be taken care of much better.
The IDW comics wouldn't sell less, because its consumer base (using it as an insult) would buy it anyway.
>>534434398Nice job being way off the mark. Anyway, you aren't doing a good job showing you're NOT threatened by Windnic.
>>534432879>>534433559Notice how Sparky refuted nothing I said except for his assertion (without evidence) that his sob story was legitimate. An assertion that was only one sentence long, by the way. Also notice how he defends his own abusers like a complete pussy. What a fucking retard. Actual pathetic sack of shit.
You guys are really good at stopping me from talking'bout things i love
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Archie is never coming back
Sonic characters will never be m*bians
Sonic being part of the Freedom Fighters is OOC
Sonic would not date or fuck the character you ship him with
>>534434667(You) are a faggot (but all of this is true)
>>534434447There is no "shilling", just the straight up truth.
>>534434537>I care about thing, so everybody cares about it! You have the mentality of a child if you don't agree!Irony.
>>534434485>they liked tyla thoWho doesn't
>>534434537>>534434757Okay ladies, youโre both very pretty, now would you kindly shut the fuck up, please?
>>534434667Thats why i read fanfics when Segas cooking
Why do Archiefags continue to participate in this fandom when they clearly despise everything non-Archie in this franchise? I wish I was being hyperbolic, but every time I see arguments like this it's always an Archiefag every single time.
>>534432546>>534434579The movies only work as well as they do because Windnic isn't in them.
You don't get the story of an alien orphan finding a new loving family and growing up with them from Windnic since Tom has no reason to defend Windnic from getting killed by Jimbotnik since he's not his new alien son.
>>534434757>NO UYou're really gonna be this undignified about it, huh?
>>534434626You sound like an unloved, pathetic, sniveling, insecure, despicable, dick sucking, cum swallowing, dick-cheese munching, psychopathic bitch.
>>534434621>Can't provide a non-emotional counter-argumentWow, W*ndfags are w*men. Who would've thought?
>>534434069I know, itโs genuinely depressing.
Is Sonic X better than the Sonic movies?
The answer to this question will decide whether or not Windic is a good character.
>>534435072Shadow and Rouge aren't friends. Rouge loves Knuckles. Shadow loves Maria.
>>534415132A groomer's twitter poll doesn't count
rouge still remains undefeated.
>>534435214No. The earth revolves.
>>534435167>Can't provide a non-emotional counter-argumentThat's exactly what you did, though. So I guess you know from experience?
>>534435114I know, Iโm so evil for attacking the poor defenseless pseudo-intellectual low-functioning autist.
>>534434878Not until the retards stop screeching at me for liking things. I don't care about the canon or the wind. I like what I like, and I don't have to put up with idiots with a delusional grudge yelling at me every single time I want to talk about stuff.
>>534435061>found family story #456At that point is Movienic even Sonic?
>>534435114Sounds a lot like Sparky.
>>534435426He's Sonic but more likable
>>534435167>non-emotional argumentIT'S FUCKING FICTION. Its entertainment. The entire point is to fucking feel something, you actual psychopath.
>W*ndfags are W*men
This genuinely changes everything, holy shit. Look at them sperg as they're found out.
>>534435426A version of Sonic not being like Sonic is objectively a good thing. Fuck Sonic.
I am in an argument with Flynn fans calling him a liar to protect him.
>>534435641Sparky is the odd one out.
>Krack is a woman >Maris is a woman
>>534435273Kill yourself moron. We arenโt talking about that anymore. Try to keep up.
>>534420779They aren't gonna find one on a sonic board
All of you arguing, what do you HONESTLY consider to be the single best story in the Sonic franchise? Could be a game, a comic arc, a movie, a show. You can even name your top 3 if you want.
SA2 for me, also like the OVA and Battle.
>>534433991>Sonic shouldnโt beat his villains! >he should be crying about his love life!Begone westoid
>>534435662Why not go watch or play or read something that wasn't Sonic in the first place?
>>534435279Unproblematic fav.
>>534435754SA1. It's where the characters have the most personality, the most agency, the most desires, the most development, etc...
All they had to do was continue from that, but they doubled down on W*ndshit and we're stuck with this shithole now.
Movies are a close second.
>>534435754>good story >posts the ones all anybody ever talks about >They're all over 20 years old There are kids in college right now who were born before Sonic ever got a good story again.
>>534420772>please remember the short moment in time where 06 was announced and no one realized it would be a shitpile yet
>>534435785>cannot argue without an exaggerated strawman>avoids the actual pointlike the plagueEvery single time.
>>534435869Her dms got exposed she treats the dancers at Club Rouge like shit
>>534435754SA1 and SA2 in terms of modern, S3&K for classic. As for other stuff: I donโt consume much secondary material but I thought the OVA was good, that X was okay, the Archie comics seemed a bit too complicated for my tastes but I donโt knock people who like them, and the Boom cartoon was just dumb fun for kids so I donโt mind it (but the games were abysmal dogshit). I donโt have an opinion IDW, except that Iโve been kind of soured on it by these threads and by all the discourse surrounding it.
>>534436013I'm telling you, they're women. windfags are fucking women. This explains EVERYTHING.
>>534435869Post more rouge
>>534435863I do. Also, there are other characters in this franchise that I do like. Sonic drags them all down.
>>534435747honestly Iโd say this is a contender for /thread
>>534435754SA2, Unleashed and Sonic 3 (& K).
Shadow is cool, I like Chip, and I love floating ancient ruins.
>>534436026Slander! She would never.
>>534436145'Kay.
>>534435114But enough about your mom. (Sorry, couldnโt resist; that other guy is an actual chode though, fuck him.)
>>534436334>'KayI misread this as โKysโ for a second
>>534435376Silverfags made a call out to shit down IDW after issue79, i should know i'm one of them
>>53443595606 fanboys are so good at agenda pushing that they nearly made people forget how terrible the game really is.
>>534434863IDW OC fags and Ianfags
>>534436026I hear she's got jesters and clowns in there
>>534435941I've been saying this for ages. The Sonic we all knew is gone. The wind shit we talk about is nice and important, but there has not been a Sonic story people loved as much now as any of the stuff from before 2009.
>>534436794If that jester character turns out to be one of Rouge's employees, I will laugh my fucking ass off. Especially since it's so fucking weird that Club Rouge STILL hasn't featured in any comic stories. Is there a mandate against it or something, what the hell?
>>534436574I applaud you because you are a legitimate customer filing a complaint about a product. Everyone talks the talk but you walk the walk and helped Silver in the best way you could. If other Sonic fans were like this maybe the franchise could become a little bit better
>>534436794>>534437075She knows what the people want
Rouge the FUCK
Amy SEX
Blaze the POLE DANCER
Vanilla the MILKER
Fiona PORN
Sally aCOCK
Bunnie RabBOOBS
Cream the rabbit
Tikal the TWERK
Maria RoCOCKNIC
Nicole the holoSTRIPPER
Whisper the WHORE
Tangle the TAILJOB
Lanolin the TITS
>the Chaotix managed to track down the jester to Club Rouge
>Jester is on their shift
>the Chaotix have to chase a stripper all over Night Babylon
>>534407869>weโre artists first. we know what itโs like to spend hours crafting something from scratch. thatโs exactly why weโve used AI as a tool - to help speed up and enhance our workflow, not to replace the human touch. In a better timeline everybody would think like this, but unfortunately we live in the clown dimension.
>>534437224>>534437429NiGHTS is the premiere act.
>>534437562Weren't they at come club in the movie prequel comic
>>534437636Seeing something that can be exploited will always be at the center of human nature
>>534425546Where is this from?
>>534437774>NiGHTS is the premiere act.TIME TO PLAY!
>>534438257Amy getting trained by Knuckles is Archie non canon lore
>>534438442Fans are desperate for the two to have any sort of friendship when the games can't be bothered to have them do anything but kiss Sonic's ass
Give me something to get mad at.
>>534430863Holy shit, stop saying "and stuff" You sound dismissive of your own words.
>>534438989Sorry Mimic hung the jester unfortunately...
>>534439058It's broken.
>>534439105i ate them
Give me some REAL SHIT to get mad at.
>>534438442That happens in Knuckles 30th Anniversary comic though.
>>534434626I was focused more on the fact that you didn't believe me, than anything else.
there's a horse in the mansion guys...
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>>534438442>mistaking IDW for Archie in big 2025
>>534435869>UnproblematicSega begs to differ
>>534438971Why would you want to be mad, when we can talk about how cool and awesome Sonic the Hedgehog is!
This is the greatest franchise of all time! Even when it's struggling to get off the ground, it still presses on anyway! Sonic the Hedgehog himself is the cooler version of Mickey Mouse, and that's an inherently cool concept! Sonic is awesome! But you don't vibe with Sonic himself, he's too larger than life for you to connect with? That's okay, because we've got tons of cool characters for everybody!
Tails! Amy! Knuckles! Blaze! Jet! Shadow! Silver! Eggman! Metal! Cream! Rouge! The Chaotix! We've got a character for everyone! Fly to the highest of all the heavens! Follow your sweet passion! The blood of your ancestors flows inside of you! Sonic is good! Sonic is great! Sonic is awesome! Sonic is outstanding! Sonic is amazing!
Open your heart, live and learn, and take a step in his world!
See, I gave benefit of the doubt to Sonic Team for Sonic Adventure 2: they were broke, their console was basically dead. All right, swan song game. Rest easy, heroes.
I gave Heroes benefit of the doubt: new to the whole third party thing, it's hard to dev on three different consoles, especially one as weak as the PS2.
I'll even half-heartedly benefit them for Shadow, since it was clear they were gunning for the darker platformer market that Jak 2 popularized at the time. (It was still an awful idea, but the business sense was there.)
After 2006? After Riders? After the Werehog? After Sonic 1 GBA and Sonic Chronicles? After deciding, "Hey. Sonic should use a sword!"? No. No one with any dignity or integrity should give Sonic Team benefit of the doubt. With Unleashed Day being a 3D adaptation of the popular Rush style of gameplay, it was easy to see that it should be expanded going forward. And they did! Colors turned out all right. Generations was a love letter to all that was good (and awful) of the series.
Sure, give the old dog a bone or two for finally doing something right.
Lost World hits, and suddenly all that progress gets chucked out the window for something new. Seemingly, because Iizuka has the attention span of a dustmite and thinks the series should radically change gameplay styles to keep it from getting stale.
And then we get hit with Boom. And someone thinks Boom, as it is, is worthy of a full retail price release.
If you can sit here and argue with a straight face that Sega knows what they're doing with the brand and we should "cut them some slack", then it's time you really stop drinking the kool-aid and realize your mentality is the pure venom that keeps resulting in half-assed games. Because they know they can half-ass it. That, as "A TRUE SONIC FAN",you will shelve out top dollar for mediocrity at best (for all the good we give Colors and Generations, they are decent at best platformers. Welcome to lowered expectations.) That in the face of valid criticism, the TRUE SONIC FAN will think they are being bullied and call into question even those within the same fanbase.
The fact of the matter is: almost no one in the company and slowly now the general public remembers what actually made a Sonic game fun. And they won't bother to so long as they can secure just enough return money to break even.
And that isn't just remedied by saying, "Chao Gardens!"
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>>534440332>After deciding, "Hey. Sonic should use a sword!"?Sonic with a sword is the COOLEST THING EVER, get out of here with that nonsense. This is PEAK!
>>534439758That's a different dimension with different characters.
>>534440631They retconned that bullshit from Forces years ago. There is no Classic dimension, it's all one big timeline and Sonic Channel has it on their website.
>>534440305NNNHHHGGHGGGGGGGGGGHHHHGGGGGGH...
How to write windnic correctly
>Sonic inspires other people to be the best they can be
What SHITGA usually does instead
>Everyone except Sonic is an idiot
>>534440332>>534440495I stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt after heroes. That was the first time I actually felt let down by a mainline sonic game.
Sonic is as free as the wind, Tails flies to the highest of all the heavens, Amy is the rose petals caught in the cool breeze and Knuckles is as immovable as a mountain.
They are the forces of nature, and Eggman represents the hubris of mankind's industrial conquest.
>>534440992There's an imposter among them
>>534440992why is whispers face so much more detailed and flat
>>534441435I don't know, dude. Everyone there has been in a Sonic game, before.
>>534441418>Knuckles is as immovable as a mountain. Until he's just randomly hanging around away from his rock like in Rush, Riders, 06 and Lost World.
>>534440992>>534441435>Sorry Silver, I don't think you qualify as a Sonic friend>This is bullshit! You let Yoshi in.
>>534441585It's Shadow because he doesn't have any friends
>>534441604That's why it's important to emphasize the Mountain aspect. Sonic Team just did a bad job executing their concept.
Because, the best way to think of Knuckles is like this:
Knuckles = Red Mountain
Red Mountain is on top of Lava Reef Zone. Deep within Lava Reef Zone is Hidden Palace Zone. In Hidden Palace Zone is the Emerald Altar with the Master Emerald "pillar" and the pedestals for each of the seven Chaos Emeralds around it. Knuckles himself patrols Angel Island to ensure no invader can find that Hidden Palace. Meanwhile, the Chaos Emeralds are always anywhere BUT the altar, so Knuckles should have to hunt them all down and keep them out of the wrong hands.
That should be how they handle it. But...
>international cat day
>no Blaze posts
It's over. The Sol Empire has fallen.
Blaze the Cat vs Curiosity
Who wins?
>>534442092>Knuckles is yet another Potential Man SEGA has no idea what to do with >he has it even worse thanks to Penders being lawsuit happy
>>534442658(Simple) curiosity is inside of Sonic and Blaze scales to Sonic so Blaze wins.
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>>534443036>(Simple) curiosity is inside of Sonic and Blaze scales to Sonic soCuriosity kills the Cat
>another shitty The House of the Dead remake
Raping Sonic is not enough for you, eh Sega.
uuu... my belly is expanding.... can't stop eating... uuu...
>>534442496Blaze posts only happen when Both Silver or Aly have something new
Frontiers proves that to fix Knuckles and Amy all you need to do is nuke their appearances in the 2000s of out the canon and start over from the Classics.
Too bad they didn't do the same for Tails
>>534443660>Too bad they didn't do the same for Tailsthe only way to do that is to have him playable from the start. But this is a "Sonic has to save all his friends" game so Tails is automatically nerfed by the premise.
>>534443660Holy shit, you're right.
Amy and Knuckles stories completely gloss over anything in the 2000's, but then you have Tails directly addressing his Pongrafff/Forces characterization.
>>534443860>>534443965Frontiers Amy Rose only treats Sonic CD as the only game she'd been in.
Frontiers Knuckles only treats Sonic 3&K and maybe SA1/SA2 as the only game he's been in.
Frontiers Tails? He's inconsistent because he has to juggle Sonic 2, SA1, SA2, Unleashed, Lost World and Forces
>>534437526CREAM THE RABBIT
>>534444778If i had a nickel for everytime i saw suggestive cream x shadow art, I would have quite a lot of money. I wonder why people do it besides for the funny aspect of it
>>534445108they're pedos
that's the answer
>the ages are gone
>Cream's still the only character who lives with her parent(s?)
So is Cream the only character we can definitively classify as a preteen?
>>534437526>Whisper the WHOREI wonder if whisper even knows what sex is, given how autistic she is
>>534438971Sega
something to always get mad at
>>534445808SEGA
Shitty Electronic Gaming Association
>>534440593It'd be "PEAK" if the game wasn't shit.
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