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>>534725032
I DROPPED TO RUBY PLAYING LAMP DRAGON
THIS DECK SUCKS
BUT CAN I GET BETTER AT IT AND GO BACK TO DIAMOND????????
Can a follower get an alt, different faction ver?
>>534776896Otohime was both sword (loli version) and dragon (hag version) in SV1
>>534776896Happened before
Delete Rune. Kill all Runeniggers.
>>534776896Very rare, but it can happen.
It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.
I got to Sapphire and all I'm seeing is Abyss, Haven, Sword, a couple Runes, and a single Dragon so far.
>>534777087Go to Diamond and you'll start seeing Forest as well
>>534776896There's also cards like this. This one allows dragon to play artifacts
changes to take two for forestcraft y havencraft.
i think to perfectly balance take two they will have to give 5-10 redraws to all clases except sword, thats how much ahead is sword from everyone else.
so we're all in agreement charon is better then olivia and everyone who says otherwise are poorplebs who can't afford the craft right? good
>swap to my dragon deck for fun
>run into the only aggro abyss I've seen all day
Very cool.
>>534777216that's just a mum and her child
>>534777440Someone impregnated Forte?
>>534777547it's more master and disciple relation.
Holy shit he's so good at the game.
Edelweiss teaching you about the benefits of playing rune
Play LAMP! This is totally how it'll feel every match! You NEVER brick horribly and never lose!
>>534777856he deserves it for letting you play fenfen and not being already dead.
>>534777849Edelweiss' sagelight teachings...
Aiiiieeee g-gildaria save meeee
>>534777849there is no benefit for truneing out
>>534777547Forte adopted a homunculus child and raised her with the Bahamut protagonist because she thought the child would grow up to be strong so they could fight to the death. That's why there are a bunch of different versions of Miriam like an evil demon one since you raised her and picked her faction.
>>534778192threesomes with lesbians
>>534777239I should get a refund for my forest run from today kmr
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why do people quit the match when i play wilbert
>>534778465Joke's on you I'm lamping in every group with my casino ahh meme deck
Why did our hero turn out to be a FURRY
every streamers lost like 2/3 of their viewers
either cyge stopped botting them or the game is just dead
>>534777856>>534778097I'm rooting for the dragonbros who stuck with it, keep it up guys
>>534778805Why would I watch strims when the meta is already solved until next set
>>534778561Dang I wish that was me, I play him and they just banish with odin instead. Only roach quits, I need to fight more roaches.
>>534778561Many decks just cannot deal with the giant wards that Wilbert/Aether puts out.
>>534778849Set 3 is when the dragon rises
>>534777856>tfw just played a game where all my storm dragons were at the fucking bottom of the deckholy shit dude
>>534778561you haven't got matched with me
>>534779039Surely!!
>>534779065It's either that like in the webm where (almost) all my draw and storm dragons were in the bottom 15, or you draw all 3 genesis before Ho-chan.
>>534776896There's a whole set of craft swapped cards.
>>534779065I realise that playing the non-Fennie storm dragon deck, 3x storm dragons is necessary for consistency
>consistency in lamphaha...
>>534778097gildaria clears it tho
what matters more rank or groups?
>>534777856https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZK0wmoQdos
Unironically will when i get to master and have nothing to actually grind but GRP, grinding GRP before master sucks cock hard
>>534779381anyone can hit master
>>534779381Group, but it only counts if you're in Master
>>534779065>ok I'm done playing ramp dragon, lets do face>go against 3 ward havens in a rowwhat the FUCK man
>>534779483pics or it didnt happen
>>534779248Ho-chanless ramp is pretty dependent on Forte and Garyu though.
At this point I'm pretty sure the game doesn't match you against people with the same run record as you in T2. I've seen total trash at 6 wins and perfect constructed decks at 0 wins
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>>534779396That's how I got to Emerald once. I was tilting really hard in AA3 and just consneeded every game without perfect draw to get there before falling asleep. Now I'm just doing dailies and chilling with my fishes.
>Open stream>Loses to sword on turn 4-5Such is dragon life.
>>534779976Merman is right there?
Bros, does Dragonsign have a reduced chance of appearing in your mulligan?
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you people lied to me, if i didn't have aragavy i'd of been bricked on this turn cause of charon and he could've made a comeback.
>>534780082You play that and you don't have any play against Zirconia. Filene doesn't give the spell unless you're in overflow.
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>Too good for Sapphire
>Too shit for Diamond
>>534779760I play dragon so I'm already ready for next set.
>>534779720Insanely soulful artwork.
>>534780106you only see 7 cards from your 40 decks on turn 3 so yes the odd is pretty low
>>534779396the fuck is that deck
>sapphireyeah it's shit
>>534780330Next week should be reveal week.
If 28th August is Set 3 launch, I think we'll get card reveals starting on the 20th with the livestream possibly on the weekend before it (16th or 17th)
>they quit before i can play wilbert
>>534780421Post your diamond dragon deck bro
>>534779381Neither. Win or lose rank is inevitable and even a retard can reach and stay diamond if they play braindead shit like Rune/Sword.
>Do dailies
>Its all wardniggers
What happen?
>>534779667>>534779976Whyโre you running garyu, he is only 5 damage for super evo
Kuon is also 5 damage but he spellboosts runeโs hand
It is a lot better to play olivia + otohime staff engage or eyja on turn 8 than garyu, lose 1 damage but +2 draw to fish for finishers
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I'm tired of playing abyssaggro but if i switch and drop rank i'm going to be called a pleb here :(
>>534779396I played Face Dragon to master and that was fine, the deck is pretty solid.
Lamping is a massive meme though.
would ramp dragon be better if evo was tied to how many PP you have vs how many turns passed
>>534780594I just started playing Dirt Rune instead. I don't care about you people.
>>534777048holy fuck i played the fuck out of this card and just realized its THAT aether
>>534780798i'm waiting for the rng gods to decide my next deck for me based on the next playset of cards i get from the gacha
>>534777048Why did they make our aether such coomerbait instead of looking this cool
>so occupied I forgot about the weekly lobby
Still it's crazy how we are close to another set, again
>>534781102I missed last week's gibs because I've been so preoccupied with work, wrasslin, and other shit. And aforementioned bored of Abyss. I'm kind of struggling with Dirt though.
>>534780552Because Garyu is an actual menace pre-Turn 8.
Garyu is pretty shit if you compare him to other 8 drops but compare him to 6 or 7 drops and he's pretty good, not many can clear his board.
>>534780752>>534781132ๅทจไนณใ่ถ
ใใๅคงๅทจไนณ!!!
>>534779381Group is autistic bragging rights. Rank actually gets you rewards through GRP and season rank.
>>534781328Of course sword clears it with no effort at all
>>534779760>save your rupies reeeNo.
I have 60K vials and they'll give us starter decks, free boosters and rupies galore again anyway.
>>534781132>>534780752>>534781382?
I use the english dub so I don't get it!!!
>>534779760Nah vials are more valuable.
>>534781475Its dragoncrafts victory cry before losing their game
>>534780249What's the correlation?
>>534781498>>534781471Bro? Your gacha leaders?!
>>534780596I enjoy face dargon but I do find it gets boring after a while.
>>534781560Don't really care desu
>>534781328Who can't clear Garyu at 7? I think only forest will be having a hard time, but it's possible.
>>534729815Supposedly s2 of ROB was written by the JP equivalent of a DEI hire, a screenwriter lady for japanese soap operas who was on record as hating anime. So she took a fat shit all over the story to spite the audience, as expected.
>>534781560I don't want Mjerrabasjdksakdhasd
Can someone explain to me how this ramp deck wins without ho-chan?
What's the idea with fan?
>>534781706The fact that face dragon and face abyss can even exist and do well just shows how joke this game is
>>534781407Sword actually can't clear his board without Gildaria + Quickblader or 0 cost from Rose.
With just evo Gildaria his board will be 8/5 4/3 Ward and 5/3, so the Silver dragon will be left.
Jeno can only clear 2, and that's after evo.
3 Samurais will do the job I guess if they somehow have them.
I was sure I could climb from B3 to Masters with sword but I'm burnt out, why is the game so dogshit
>>534781825You ramp just to get big storm followers out earlier. Wincons are stuff like them being unable to remove Forte due to it not being T7 yet, chipping face damage with fan so you can kill with an early Genesis, etc.
Not a big fan but some people like it as some weird face-ramp hybrid.
>>534781829What do you mean? Why is it a joke that a card game has viable aggro archetypes?
>>534781930Hmm so is the mull more for ramp cards and fan is just there for incidental chip?
I dont see myself spamming otohimes with this deck.
>>534781825I think it's better to have a 2/2 storm+ward threats/removal at early game than bricked to death. Problem will be burning the hand and card draw.
>>534782020Do you actually enjoy playing them? Do you feel good you just cheated win on a coin flip?
>>534782145Not trying to be rude but would Shadoba happen to be your first card game?
>>534782029I don't really know desu. I just played Ho-chan ramp. I guess the fan is backup for if you brick, so you have something to play every turn. And on paper I can see the synergy with ramp because sometimes you have 10 PP but only one 6-7 PP card to play per turn, in which case you could otohime. But many of those faceramps don't even play it so...
>>534781805The irony is that it's a love story of a dragon girl and her hitler boyfriend
>>534781825you hope the enemy's internet dies
>>534782312Yeah I'm guessing the idea is to use it for reach with Odin/Forte.
>>534782145That's literally every deck. Just because you have some more coinflips by passing turn 1-3 to draw more cards doesn't mean you're still not ultimately flipping coins while face man hits your face.
I hate aggro decks with passion but the whole game is an RNG shitfest. I don't see how aggro is any different.
>>53478202010 face damage from 2 evo 2 sevo is absolute bullshit honestly.
>>534781785Kuon can't clear him period. If you use 2 Rush shinigamis to kill the Ward then your Ward shinigami will die first to Garyu before Kuon kills him leaving Silver Dragon alive.
Sword also can't reliably clear him
>>534781851
>>534780752>>534781132KYORYUU TO KOETA DAI CHORYUU
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>>534781829>>534782145>People mad at aggroEvery fucking time shut up.
>>534782531Bro, your fattened up William.
>>534781829>>534782145Aggro is a concept within card games, you can't just not have it. If your goal is to beat your opponent, you're going to either do it as fast as possible with tempo, grind them into dust with value, pull off some game winning combo, or have alternative wincons.
>>534782572WB is very slow compared to early Shadowverse as well. I wonder what these guys will think when aggro actually gets more support and is tier 1 in a particular set.
>>534781825that seems like a face aggro deck more then ramp, fan is there to smooth out the lower curves so you can have a storm creature every turn or when you're out of cards since you can trigger with 0 cards in hand. there's basically no card draw in that deck either
>open game
>go to park to do that daily match
>queue up aggro abyss because I respect both players' time
>opponent RQ on turn 2 Beryl
???
>>534782832>WB is very slow compared to early Shadowverse as wellWhat? Wasn't early SV way slower? Sword was very aggro but they actually could run out of steam and generally you could actually have and build a board. Maybe less tempo swingy and evo spammy is the right way to describe it rather than slow, but still. In SWB, you basically lose if you don't full board clear every turn past turn 3-4.
>>534782884I prefer having 20 turn games where both of us are out of EVO points, resources and we're relying on RNG top decking. My enjoyment is more important than other people's so I think aggro is cheating
>>534782615Nobody plays William anymore, all of them replaced him with the 3PP Spell to combat Sword early aggression. That's why Garyu is now viable again.
>>534782884stop traumatizing the poor peasants
>>534782853hmm maybe that's the way to play it
>>534782832T. Never played early shadowverse
>>534782884Glad that I haven't met any randoms who quit matches yet. More often than not they're playing aggro abyss and it's the only face gentleman's ageement. I get a feel for what deck I should use too because if they're lower than AA that means I bust out the ambush sword deck, if they're above AA it's aggro abyss time to make it even faster.
>>534782994>>534783189Maybe I'm just misremembering then. The only thing I have left from 10 years ago are a whole bunch of screenshots of me consistently killing people on turn 9 with the Seraph haven meme deck. Wasn't that deck super fucking slow?
>>534782884This is why benis / dark side haven is the park meta now
Is the 5 reroll for haven up?
>>534781829you want every card game to be a 20 turn heavenward snoozefest?
every tcg has aggro decks, Red in MTG zoo in hearthstone, if you want to see a joke of a game look at yugioh where the average game lasts like 3 turns.
>>534783376Don't they have turn 1 OTK's in Yugioh? Honestly I kinda respect the degeneracy
>>534783321You actually had board and traded things. Dshift was the only real bullshit. Seraph while strong as well, wasnt like dshift because it requires opening to play it and it wont end the game immediately. Gaining 20 shadows to play tyrant also felt good because you'd actually have to work for it. Tyrant / altered fate, was my casino deck.
>>534782832Yes and no. The game is slower in the sense that games go into later turns, but it's also more volatile. They deliberately want the game to go into later turns in order to push Super Evolve which is why lower curve followers are a bit weaker while the later ones are dumb as fuck.
>>534783376Irony considering haven games are fast overall. Portal, rune and sword mirror are the slowest games.
>>534783465yup that happened alot too, i don't really follow yugioh anymore but I'd like to assume they banned those cards then again who knows. I remember one of the MC's ace monsters from vrains caused an infinite summon loop but they didn't want to ban that card so they ended up banning literally every card that had a tribute creature to do damage otherwise it always ended in a 0tk
>>534783321Nah you're right this game is designed to be slower because of super evos. Even when the top meta decks Sword and Rune play against each other it can become a very long battle if Sword forces all evo points out of Rune and doesn't let them play Satan. In SV1 there was nothing you could do to delay DShift.
>>534783376To be fair a ygo turn is longer than 5 shadoba turns
Does sword have a hidden buff where their hand never bricks?
>>534783752yugioh is so degenerate it probably should just be reclassified as two player solitary. I don't think i've seen another card game where people go through their entire deck on turn 1.
>>534783663Nah, the game is designed around "do you have the answe?" every turn. Cant clear board, lose. Rune just prolongs the game because they can draw like madman so they can answer with higher chance and then end the the game with their bullshit otk
>>534783321>Aggro deck in vanilla SV1: Play Cerberus on t5, kill with Mimi+Coco+Phantom Howl on t6>Aggro deck in WB: Runs fucking OliviaI dunno to me WB feels slower too
>>534783794Only for your opponents
>>534783794Yes their followers draw other swordcraft followers
>>534783912>>Aggro deck in vanilla SV1: Play Cerberus on t5, kill with Mimi+Coco+Phantom Howl on t6Sovl...
>>534783834OTK's are bullshit
Aggro is bullshit
Only Control is honest and skill based.
I'm glad shadoba is bringing in new cars game players at least.
>>534783794yes, it's called Value
>>534783560I missed those days where I could put out early Atomy into turn 5 Gwendyn for Zeus into Tyrant
>>534783794its not even hidden they have a ton of situational cost cards. like hounds are 3 or 6 cost, the 3/2 princess is 3 or 5 cost, amelia is literally a 4/4 draw 2 creature card for 3.
Their whole gimmick is being able to play their top curve with virtually any hand.
>>534783752I can play 3 full matches against a jerkoff deck like rune in shadoba compared to a long master duel match of someone playing on phone with delayed animations and shit.
I had to sit there for 15 minutes often wondering what the fuck is going on how they can even have turns that long WHEN THERE IS A TIMER.
Turns out if you got animations enabled they add quite a bit to the timer and shit phone internet too.
IRL sitting there, we have 45 minutes to finish 3 games. Guess what? 2 games + a "time win" is the usual, the average game lasts 2 turns tops, yet somehow each match takes 20 minutes or more.
Shadoba is crazy fast in comparison and I'm glad it is.
>>534783794Yes, but it's not every single match thankfully. Also it's only for your opponent.
>>534784102Atomeme was hilarious as if you could high roll that you have insane board turn 4 and auto win
I get how they work now but why the hell did cygames make artifact portalcraft the tutorial starter deck. the artifact gears stuff is so confusing for a newcomer to a game
>>534783794Make a third to half of your deck 2 and 3 drops and you too can never brick.
>>534784321Making the gundam is flashy and very Timmy
>>534783560>Gaining 20 shadows to play tyrant also felt good because you'd actually have to work for itThis is something SWB completely lacks: cards that actually require something to work. Ironically it's just Gildaria with her free sevo that actually requires 20 rally, and >spellboost.
I hope going forward we have less really good cards that are free and require 0 gameplan. Things like Lumiore requiring 4 discards, puppet shit requiring you to actually have played puppets, artifact shit requiring you to actually have played artifacts, etc. Powerful cards that require something for the payout.
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>>534784395Being a Timmy is the only way to truly enjoy card games.
If I ever make one, every class is going to be monogreen dragondinosaurs.
>>534784193>Atomemethe fuck. the dude was meta it only stopped seeing play because br was a better deck
>>534784518>>534784395>>534784321The deck was perfect as the show off deck.
The gundam pay-off is cool to appeal to Timmy, the deck is flexible to appeal to Johnny, the deck is very good (in set 1) to appeal to spike.
>>534784529He was only played in turn 4 high roll meme decks. Dunno how it changed afterwards because i quit around wonderland days.
>>534784658NTA, but there was a time Shadow got some good amulets along with neutral ones that draw followers on death
>KMR when the tier 0 is a combo deck
>"no nerfs 12 balanced decks meta NEXTO"
>KMR when the tier 0 is an aggro deck
>emergency nerfs
Why is he like this? Why is he such an unabashed combonigger?
>>534784480You have Gundam. Very satisfying finisher
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>>534784649Agreed. I didn't even have any alloutes or portal legos, but still I almost creamed myself when I first dropped the extinction gundam.
I was skeptical about returning to this cashgrab before that moment.
>>534784909Aggro decks should never be meta. They should always be counter meta.
>>534784909nips love comboshit, see ygo and mahjong
>>534784529/svg/ calling him Atomeme was definitely a thing before he became good, but yeah obviously he became meta he's even still nerfed in UL.
>>534784974>>534784658>>534784529They had to nerf him for unlimited later. This was AFTER the nerf iirc.
>>534785036aggro decks should always be meta, fast games means faster climbing.
>>534785159SV1 had so many more soulful decks... SV2 is way too clean.
We need more random bullshit for each craft.
>Have Orchis leader
>Play Artifact Portal
Thoughts on my devious ploy?
>>534785182UUUUUUGHHH I'M GRIIIINDIIING AAAAHHHHH
>>534777239Is this a joke? They're not doing anything about sword?
>>534785036>>534785182>>534785334Aggro better be fucking meta next set cause I'm going to be grinding for Grandmaster...
>>534785239We need old seraph back too.
>>534785321are you running her tho?
i cut her for karula's futuristic cock
>>534785421yep, they will buff everyone else before considering nerfing sword.
>>534785097ah i see. I only started posting in 2020
>>534785182How this post feels like it was written by SEA fingers.. oh wait
>>534785450Granted but it's because Alice makes a surprise appearance.
>>534777239f-fake as heck... please
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I made it to Master! Also promoted back to Diamond during one of the trial matches.
I'm definitely scaling back my playtime on this game though, the reason why I pushed is because some guy seethed about Sword/Rune being able to carry able to carry to Master, so I figured, why not seize the opportunity? Might consider tryharding for Grandmaster, but definitely no more 6-hour grind sessions per day. Hopefully Grandmaster doesn't take that much grind...
Thank you for reading my blog.
>>534785542keep yourself safe bro
Chances control forest will het support cards in the next set?
I got titania leader early but dont want to play roach and tempo/Rose queen forest is turbo bricked
>kinda want to play dragon
>no garyu
>guy feels unsafe as fuck to craft too
>>534785635>sworddidn't read
>>534785321>OrchisMethodical, thoughtful pumping that has your pleasure as her number one consideration.
>ZweiRough hip bruising pumps that just wants to get you off as soon as possible so she can call you a quickshot.
Thoughts?
>>534785239SV1 also had 400+ cards on release ...
>>534784480>cards that actually require something to work. Sorry m8 cygames already declared complicated card is a no go.
https://www.4gamer.net/games/760/G076035/20250808001/
Google translated
The reason for this is that card abilities and their combinations have become increasingly complex in an effort to increase competitiveness. As a result, the amount of text written within the card frame has become quite large.
So Shadowverse WB decided to change this approach. The policy is to keep the card abilities themselves as simple as possible, and instead ensure competitiveness by "making the rules deeper." This reduces the burden on players and creates an environment that makes it easier for dormant players to return.
>>534785321I do that and will do the same with Dirt and the Daria leader once there's a pure Dirt deck I like.
>>534785747Forest Omen's shit is lowering opponent followers power.
>>534785798A solid 30% of them were completely unplayable.
Which one do I go with? Only got 2 ralmia 1 Karula, but willing to craft.
Both of these claim 15~ wins.
>>534785747>Chances control forest will het support cards in the next set?100% The forest omen's gimmick is control debuffing the enemy follower's attack
>>534785901Is omen 100% confirmed for the next set?
>>534785794>>534785321They're literally killing off the human race one thick load at a time...
>>534785908Made take 2 playable
>>534785992Hard to say. That mysterious silhouette could be anyone.
>>534785819I don't think "needs 20 shadows" or "needs 4 of x cards played to work" is too complex. I think they're referring to shit like wielder of the cosmos.
When I came back in Azvaldt after not playing since 2017, sometimes when an opponent slapped down some legendary, I didn't have enough time to read the card and think about it while trying to piece together my next play. Still, I could have just gone to the wiki afterwards to read the card, so I wouldn't want them to stop making complex cards just because of that.
>>534784480If you played late SV1 there was way too much of this. Basically every archetype had a quest they needed to do. X times evolved this match, X loot cards played, X amulets destroyed, X stack consumed etc. They probably wanted to move away from this design.
>>534785239No we fucking dont. People are already pissing themselves at Rune playing a dclimb
>>534785992yes
they question is if we get 100% omen or 50% omen
>>534786063Nobody would care about rune if I could drop a full atomy board on T5.
>>534785794I want to have passionate babymaking sex with every puppet. EVERY. PUPPET. They will waste my seed inside their fake wombs. After marriage of course.
>>534786062I did and yes and no. In a way it railroads deck design because you have to have enough of those tags to make the deck work. Kind of a cheap way to balance the game.
But then on the other end of the spectrum, now you have sword where all cards are fucking amazing and require no synergy and look at take sword in SWB. Or spellboost where dirtboost is a thing because lol requirements?
he silent snipered all over my liu feng, ver valsely
>>534785942Only SEA monkeys enjoy grinding
You have no idea how much I hate these retarded weekly missions
Can this game EoS soon please
>>534785541>How this post feels like it was writtenAn esl baby trying to project about sea posters
ok rent free
>>534776742 (OP)Naughty night...
>>534786302so this confirms
>>534785541 is a SEA cunt self-projecting
>>534786489Have you ever played any korean mmos, or pso2 or warframe? Its just all SEA people unironically enjoying the grind
If there is no Bampi soon, this game will die and EOS.
>>534785928Gundam bros pls respond.
>>534786004I wish dollfies get popular again like during rozen maiden era. Picrel sold like a hotcakes tho at $ 1000 so that's a good news.
is there any better feeling than playing twilight dragon on turn 6/7 then immediately passing turn?
it's like whipping out your giant cock then slamming it on the table
>>534786627The top one is a meme, the guy who posted it now plays a cannonless list on stream
>>534786583i've played the most cancerous of all mmos, dungeon fighter online that game makes modern gachas look like a cakewalk.
As we get closer to the next expansion, so does...my HOPE.
Hopechads, we're all gonna make it.
>>534786710Ty, ended up accidentally crafting all the cards either way because I missclicked lmao.
-11k vials, hope I get to gundam some ppl.
>>534786583You forgot gbf
>>534785635Nice work bro, I did in fact read your blog. We're all gonna get those special season 1 GM sleeves. We're all gonna make it.
fairy deck is supposed to be insane if they get the double crest or what?
>>534786191The reason why Rune is like this seems to be because of how Spellboost cards are designed here. I guess because some cards boost a lot of times. In SV1 you never wanted to spend any single play point on something that doesn't spellboost. It didn't even matter how good Dirt or neutral cards were, if it didn't spellboost you weren't putting it into a Spell Rune deck.
>>534785635you must feel really proud for playing AI deck
>>534786369I made an alt and do the weekly 5 battles in a few minutes. The observe 5 games thing is fast as fuck too, you don't even need to actual watch the game, just back out of the menu immediately.
Is that 6 cost guy legit?
Why otohime fan? What you even can afford to discard here?
>>534786648How often does your twilight dragon even survive the turn?
>>534786369If you just do the daily match and one of them against a friend/alt you finish all the weekly missions in 5 days. You don't have to do all of them you just need 100 points which doesn't require any extra stuff like spectating or knockout
>>534787215>No FileneShe's an autowin against Haven, and is basically Apollo against aggro, what a troll list.
>>534787215I'm convinced people just screenshot their winstreaks to grief people with shit decks like this
>>534777239Next reset or is it already live?
I just found out that rune's only 2 drop is melvie nowadays, how the fuck do they always have cauldron-melvie in hand and I can't find a single soiree or orthrus/phildau?
>>534787692good thing you ask, i did the mistake of picking haven before checking.
100 packs worth of rupies by set 3 perhaps? Surely I'll get a leader. Surely.
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I only just dropped salefa and they sneed......
>>534787848ha, most people has already open more than 100 packs in current set and another 100 in the last set, but im sure most of us doesnt have 2 leader skins, the only one i have was from rerolling
>>534787993>>534787848I whaled for Filene...
>>534787930Always such a nice feeling
>>534787930>aggrochad doesn't pointlessly waste timeI kneel
>>534779720Makasete pichu!
When are they making new bingo missions
I hope we get a starter deck every expansion, it's very good to onboard players as they can choose which craft they enjoy.
I downloaded Hearthstone again recently and they really do new starter/returner onboarding right. Its a pity about the actual game though.
>>534788495Yes I just won 7 streak just now with heaven
hard to believe that haven's supposed to be bad in draft
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Nice board
>>534785521Just play portal you giant crybaby
Why isn't Dayan playing 2pick if they buff his craft?
>>534788540Not only we'll get a deck, but it will also have 3 legos in it (1 per set)
>doing my daily lobby mission
>bro ropes nearly every turn despite playing aggro blood somehow
I want to make half-elf kids with Arisa!!!
>>534789359Nio can make mistakes sometimes alright?
>>534787993Tickets are aprox 1:220
>>534789603This witch has a sexy body
>>534789432Not Nio, but while doing a 14h grind session to master the other day, I did this in a match I had already won and actually lost in the end because of it.
>get to diamond
>feel like playing this now
How fast i am hitting ruby?
>>534790543>Tier 2 deckYou'll be fine. If you actually want to be ruby, start lamping
>>534789369Damn she is hot.
Green eyes are peak as well.
>>534790925ramp is not strong enough for diamond and gets shat on in ruby because it's all aggro
miserable deck
>>534790543>Tier 1 deckYou'll be fine. If you actually want to be ruby, start puppeting
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Is it worth it?
>>534791051>>534790925I don't know which bricked craft to choose from...
Yeah. I think I'm ready for set 3.
>>534790543>30 win streak deckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjy9f59YdWA
>>534791373What if you don't get a cute leader from those packs
T6 Fennie wasn't enough it seems
>>534791431>30 winstreaklegit as fuck fr fr
>>534776896There were also cards that summon old followers from different class. Like sword card that summons blood follower or neutral that summons portal follower etc.
>>534791457I believe in the heart of my card.
>>534791907You whaled for Feetlene right
>>534791335I'd advise against it until next set or at least reveals.
Even if Abyss stays good or gets better you might not need X amount of those legos.
If you had more resources I'd say go for it, but since you seem to be tight on vials, don't.
If you REALLY must do it, then try the version without Ginsetsu and Medusa only crafting the 2 cerbies as she is probably the safest craft with charon and what I assume to be the 3rd olivia a safe second.
Had decent success with pic rel. You can replace Orthus with 3x silver 2drop with bane on enhance as it was originally.
Feel free to cut 1 Charon and 1 Olivia only running 2 Cerberus to see if you like it if you really want to go for it.
Hell you might even get a feel for the deck with what you currently have on unranked.
Dragonbros, is Burnite a safe craft
>>534792007As for what "decent success means" it was the only deck I reached diamond group with in AA3.
>>534791989No. I don't play Dragon. I'm whaling for Lishenna.
>>534792275wtf is this real
>>534786191>>534787013Dirt boost is a thing because dclimb doesn't do anything on its own and is hard capped to t10 by Satan, kuon. Having more boost doesn't make the turns go by faster. DShift won you the game by itself so of course you packed as much boost in as possible. They're two fundamentally different cards so the decks are of course fundamentally different as well.
KMR stopping me from vialling every single card from the crafts I don't play...was a good decision in the end.
>>534792539*plays odin*
wilbert who?
>Play ward haven
>Never draw Wilberto
What do I do?
I don't like playing Sword, Rune, Abyss or Forest.
>>534792621>Dirt boost is a thing because dclimb doesn't do anything on its ownmore like it's similar to last format artifact that stole lovestruck and orchis due both being good on their own
boost already stole cauldron (and sagelight if you count it as dirt card) last format, and now they only add melvie which give you another access cauldron and norman. some add signle copy of penelope/edelweis
super evo preventing all damage and death is absolutely retarded
why does trading get removed from the game for the entire second half of every match
>>534792539Why would I apologize to the guy I play that is just bait for Odin unless I use my extra pp?
>>534792971You pray harder. :)
has svgdb anon posted about also doing sv2 yet?
>Roach mirror
>Turn 2
>Dude is computing
Retard
>>534793114Yes. I get separating evo and sevo if you wanted to give some cards powerful effects after turn 7 specifically, but there was literally no reason to add that to it. In sv1, a ward follower on the field was an actual thing you needed to remove somehow, often by trading poorly. Now bane doesn't even matter unless it comes with rush because lol sevo.
>>534793408>a ward follower on the fieldbane follower*
>>534793290Why would he need to do it?
>>534793290Is he even still around
You sure about this heal 2 sagelight runebro?
>>534793624Let me know when you lost anyway.
My favorite part of sword is playing turn 8 Yurius after they just played Odin.
>>534793530because there's no current database for soundclips or HD artwork like for filenes feet
>>534793354typical roachpedo who thinks he's really smart, the archetype is bound to attract pseuds
>meta evolves
>people keep figuring out decks more and more and how each match up interacts
>Portal keeps sliding down tier lists across all sites, channels, and pro lists
I'm telling you retards. Portal is the absolute worst class bar none right now. Yes, I'm saying Portal is worse than Dragon, and not just in general, but also against each other. Dragon has a good match up from what I've seen with Portal this expansion. But, then again, it's hard to tell, because fucking nobody plays these 2 dumpster classes.
I kinda wanna play Portal but I have no Ralmias...
>>534794167A 2 decks single elimination tournament is really cruel
>>534794429Portal paid for Orchis's sins in set 1
Anyway to reduce gear fuse animation time
>>534793354Roachsissy vs roachgod
>>534792621Yeah but even the turn capped win conditions of Rune in the past couldn't afford to run Dirt cards because it would have bricked them.
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>>534794675broken ass card
>>534794585Yes, so surely Forest will pay for roach, rune for dclimb, and sword....well for everything really, right? Surely we won't have at least 2 of rune sword roach in the top 3 again for the third time, right?
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Should I craft this 15 win streak list? Surely Dirt Rune will become a real deck next set?
>>534779760start? i've been saving almost this whole set already
>>534794675post lumine art
>>534795019you can get a lucky streak with any deck.3 vtuber is a trap. Maybe 2 at most.
>>534795090Call me a homo but I like the normal art more
>>534794675>use this nigga in crosscraft Portal - Forest to bounce puppets or combo with Cosmos FangI am cum.
When will they bring back the fun events?
>>534794982mmmmm..... wyell......
>Crafted the sissy deck
Forgive me for my sins
>>534794667Well, without AG and kuon you'd hardly ever reach 18 boost by t10. With them it's relatively easy so you have to tech in dirt or you'd never reach t10. It's a different kind of meta than in sv1. I genuinely don't understand the critique beyond "I don't want this archetype to be playable" which is fair from a subjective point of view.
>Fool! nothing melts whitefrost
how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>534794667Some were made so that you benefited from boosting them as much as possible instead of to a certain amount or in the case of for example the 2nd version of Kuon were you OTKd with Shikigami + Isabelle's token you had to also fulfill the condition of playing 8 different spells in the match, in addition to the required spellboosts being kinda tight.
>>534779381Group.
t. recent emerald Master with around 200h on clock
>>534779381Rank
nobody takes your B rank diamond seriously
>>534795019there's a good chance lilanthim won't see play even if they print more dirt cards
the few times dirt was meta in sv1 it was all about levi and his burn
>>534795878no one takes master topaz seriously either
>>534795781>I genuinely don't understand the critique beyond "I don't want this archetype to be playable" which is fair from a subjective point of view.I guess anons just don't like puppet and dirt girls getting stolen and abused by the more hated archetypes of their classes.
>some random jap added me
>send me stickers every week
>think its just for the quest so just ignore it
>decide to send a sticker back today
>this
Help me translate it, weebros
>>534795951at least master rank topaz is not fighting against incomplete decks or new players
>>534795882>the few times dirt was meta in sv1 it was all about levi and his burn
I hate Portal but I want to let my sperm die inside Portal girls.
>>534796039Also how should I respond?
>>534796049We'll get nerfs in a few weeks right...
>>534796039use google lens
>>534796039>>534796371He asked you to play a game with him for the weekly quest, then said sorry that he already got it afterwards without you.
t. Google Lens
>>534796039He said he wanted to do a match for the weekly bingo quest, then said sorry, he already finished it.
>>534793290Motivation comes and goes, but I am working on it
I'm pretty busy with stuff though
>>534793536yes
>>534796049How increasing pp will help the nerf? They also did this with PtP right?
how did one inGOD havenchad get away with dabbing on all runeniggers when there are vastly more rune in diamond than haven?
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>>534796108same, i hate both af and puppet
when will they bring back machina
>>534796509Wow I am surprised you are still around, you must be a Shadoba superfan.
Thoughts on them adding mahjong to the park?
https://x.com/IGAvx8pH2919758/status/1954822204585394640
>>534796041Same difference
A B diamond hasn't proved he isn't a shitter yet, they lack experience so their opinion doesn't matter
A master topaz has proved without a shadow of doubt that he's a shitter and his opinion doesn't matter
>>534795304>he didn't know
>>534796642That looks amazing. Too bad I am obliged to play puppet only since I luckshitted Orchis leader, autism is too strong.
>>534796467I used google lens but it didn't translate his second message well
>>534796502>>534796508Thanks anons
>>534796509Chad, thank you for your hard work.
>>534796684except you know, group swings are wild and very common
takes a diamond streamer 1h worth of matches to drop down to topaz playing a meme deck
and their skill doesn't just disappear
>>534796709*plays 3-4 puppets into Hozumi
I did know
>>534795781For me it make the deck too much like a goodstuff deck, I prefer highly synergistic decks. Seeing Edelweiss played by Spell Rune makes me feel like I'm playing Take Two. I guess it's fine while the card pool is this small though.
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>>534795019The deck seems fun. I easily beat a spellboost, roach, and aggro abyss, but lost to midrange abyss. Still gotta see how it goes against sword, if that matchup is good it might actually be a viable deck
>>534796509>Skin: JPHmm? Are the leader skins different in the different languages? It's it just different lip syncing?
i hope they bring back loxis
>>534796613Roach matchup was a 100% win, so his tourney was just a 50/50 when other players was like 1/3 chance to win the tourney
>>534797024The JP versions of the female leaders lose a couple of cup sizes as part of Cygames' regional localisation efforts.
>>534797058i hope they bring back lolis
>>534796952>For me it make the deck too much like a goodstuff deckFair. That's sword for me. I don't even think it has an archetype, only slight deviations of being more aggro or more late game.
>>534797024In SV1 Isabelle was censored if you played in English, so far I think everything is the same here though
All it does now is break the faces in a funny way
>>534796643I had a phase I was really into jong, so yeah I'd play it
>>534797092I actually had to go back and compare the trailers because I legitimately would not have put this past them.
KMR hires you to fix abyss. (payment in rupees)
what card are you bringing over from SV1 to fix the class?
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T5 Nono > T6 Norman, they can't do anything. Especially since most Rune players don't run William anymore
>>534797384bampy chang
all in on aggro
>>534797384>payment in rupeesNo thanks, I don't want to do the needful saar.
I would prefer rupies.
>>534797273This is your face on the EN dub..
Tommorow we are going to dominate take 2
>>5347972735 seconds in for that vacuum bj fetish face
>>534797652It's today or tomorrow?
>>534797451I spammed this for the first week and it resulted in so many wins
>>534797745I dont think thatd fix much of anything
>>53479784111pm pt so around 20hours
How bad are the Portal decks into Sword/Rune nowadays?
>>534798138what part of WORST CRAFT IN THE GAME you cant read
>>534797794I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that
>>534798201What about Dragon bwo?
>>534790543>started playing it>rune rune rune>switched to aggroI will just stopp playing after finishing AA3 to master
>>534798138With puppet at least Sword is winnable if you draw well, rune is practically unwinnable unless they gigabrick. Haven't played artifact in a while so I'm not sure about that.
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
>>534798270dragon is better, simple as that
>>534798138puppet is playable vs sword if you put apollo in but it makes your rune matchup worse but your rune matchup is already trash so it's whatever
>>534798359Wonder if we'll ever get a control/midrange dirt deck. She's so fun to use but you don't even get to play her most the time in the current meme dirt list
>>534797652Its already live retard bro
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>>534798493keep lying sword retard
I'm checking resale value of evolve cards
does every card sell for cents?
how is this even sustainable, what's the point of buying boxes if it's impossible to get your money's worth?
T2 RUNETUMOR DOWNPLAYERS IN ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES
YOU WERE TIER 1 THIS WHOLE TIME DON'T TRY TO DENY IT
>>534798848>he has to treat everything as an investmenthow about you fucking play the cards?
>>534799052with who? the children at the park? lmao
>>534798848bro if you're gonna invest try shitcoins instead why dapple in cardboard
>>534799249well then what's the point of selling a physical format? you failed to attract scalpers, you failed to establish a scene, you fail to attract investors
the only thing left are collectors
>>534798848I'd rather them be worthless than fluctuate between 120โฌ to 1โฌ to nothing like yugioh playing hot poptato LARPing as a vendor just to not get fucked as hard if you ever wanna play lmao.
>>534798967Who and when was downplaying healing 40hp while waiting for satan?
>>534799112go talk to other people nigger
check your lgs if anybody's playing or willing to play
but tbdesu if you don't live in japan or some sea countries don't bother with evolve at all, get the codes from people who play
>>534798848If you don't buy the cards you don't even need to get your money's worth back from selling them.
>>534799331collectors as in consumers not as in investors
>>534798967Time traveler bro posting from early set 1
>take 2
>opponent plays annegrea norman kuon dclimb
>>534798848Isn't the point of paper TCG being able to play physical cards with friends and at your local? What is this shit about investing lol
>>534799412well the whole point of physical cards is to be able to own them and resell them
if you wanted to play the game you'd play digital games like arena or duel masters or wb
What you think of these Olivia Apollo Balto ratio?
What is the best way to play Rune?
>Earth-Rite / Spellboost hybrid?
>Pure Spellboost build?
>Pure Earth-Rite build??
I want to try the pure Spellboost build, but I'd have to dig deep to craft x3 Odin. Is Odin good in Rune? Thanks Shadba general.
>>534798967if rune is so good why did i just lose to the 10 hp beginner bot
>>534799645not many people play physical formats and many of the few who do do it out of nostalgia or tradition
the digital clients are much more convenient if you want to have fair and structured matches
even for fun formats like commander
>>534799832it's ok, very normal for runeplayers to be retarded
>>534799779spellboost splashing dirt cards to play norman
>Odinno he's an aggro card or a filler
>turn 2 beryl
>don't clear the lone skelly with a bat and go face gambling on them not having vuella or desperate memorial
>they actually clear my beryl
>topdeck another beryl and they can't do shit about her
And in this very moment, he knew he was fucked
>>534798848Try the One Piece cards market
>>534798252I was going to say that one bl shitpost anime with the massive chins but the mouth is down there so disturbing fetish it is
>>534798967We saw how tier 1 it was yesterday, when it lost every single match it was played in
Why no lobby tourney next week?
>>534798848Oh no no no, nobody tell him what his digital shadowba collection is worth...
>>534799386>>534799534>>534799832>>534800539HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU PEOPLE???
T2 = TAKE TWO
>>534799738Why would you Olivia for 7/5 when Vuella exists and you can double them and sevo ghost?
>>534800629at least the digital version can be played
>>534800739Olivia won me a lot of games
>>534800685>TAKE TWOI forgot it's a thing
You vill buy ze card skins
>Ramp Dragon vs Roach Forest
>Won just by spamming Fan of Otohime over and over again
I didn't even ramp lmao
>>534800824More like saved your bricked ass. Aggro games should end on 7 max in worst case scenrios. If your past that it indicates desperate struggle not a match.
>>534800613Probably has something to do with Battle Fest which is coming on the 15th
>>534801006>unbricking a bad situation is not winning games
back to sapphire thank god
>>534801075>I designed my deck to lose
>>534798480current dirt is already midrange, your power turn is nono > norman > rimirami sevo > lila, after that you either kill with odin or t10 kuon or try to grind out with lila
>>534801271Storm Ramp Dragon**********
I stole this Jap's list
https://x.com/gmks_sv/status/1953868746126503947/photo/2
>>534800685then write it when it could easily be interpreted as tier 2
So if you play the chicken 3 times a game she basically offers her 3 holes for each set of discounts.
It makes sense in my mind. What do you guys think?
>>534801695Three Fennies means three Fennies to smooch
>>534801881Too much stuffing.
>>534801971Chicken's a bit of a slut
Im unable to go beyond 2-2 in take 2
>>534801793Whenever leader polls come around with Gildaria and my Queen, this is going to be another Opulent vs Barbaros situation isn't it? Where the worse girl will win the popularity contest again...
https://x.com/zenonhahiragana/status/1954586826993508530
>this won a lobby tournament
I keep forgetting I have grmnir crest
>>534802317lobbys are luck based anon
>>534802406true
I queued with rune yesterday and went vs 3 roaches
>>534802406>5th time winningcope
>>534800859i would but not for like $26 for three cards
>>534801372Current dirt is basically you bust your load on turns 5 and 6, and if they can answer it, they probably win, if they can't, you probably win. That doesn't feel very midrange to me, especially when other "midrange" decks like sword and abyss also beat everything but spellboost post turn 10
>>534802153why would gildaria win
she's not even popular
her craft is played by metatroons who dont care about anything other than winning, much less visuals
>>534802153they could do a full batch of all the masked gold followers, one for every class and just sell them in the shop
bonus points if they also add that mask gimmick from holy saber
>>534802631sword has more attractive girls than your craft
I'm waiting for Rune to drop out of meta so I can start playing my favorite craft again
Don't want nonnies thinking I'm a metatranny
Tried playing Forest in T2 again because I thought the patch was out. It wasn't, but honest to god, I think this redraw system isn't going to do shit to help. The only really good leggo is Tittytania and there are barely any good golds either, most of it is all just roach enabler shit and unless you somehow get loads of roaches early then you're not gonna be drafting for that.
Went 0-2 BTW.
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>>534802949thanks for supporting my claim
>>534802834Fuck I can't believe I quit right before they made her a leader...
Dragon has the cutest girls
>>534802525sword is broken and does what dirt does but without evos so it wins
abyss is a control deck so it's normal it beats it
a healthy midrange deck would play similarly to dirt, powerspike in the midgame and finisher by 10 at the latest, not infinite board vomit all game long that makes a supposedly midrange deck into an all range deck
>>534802834Looks like a transsexual knight
>>534802908>unless you somehow get loads of roaches early then you're not gonna be drafting for that.What else does forest have to draft for? Either you get roach and a good enabler or lygma in the starting selection or you don't play the craft?
>>534803167liu feng is a butterface
>>534803281>liu feng is a butterface>t.
>>534803417I look like that and say that
>>534803281Smoochable squishy cheeks?
>>534802153Why is she called Stadium in Japanese
>>534803867gildaria fucks the whole guild
zirc fucks the whole stadium
>>534803867Because that's what her actual name is
>>534803867because she is a stacy
https://periodictableofelements.fandom.com/wiki/Stacium
>>534803185>see girl>think she's a trannymight want to get your head sorted out
>>534803167Lumiore looks like a boy
>>534802894You know that'll never happen as long as AG, Kuon, and OD are in the rotation, right? And they'll probably release something even more broken by the time they rotate out
>>534804391Nah, it's only a matter of time, look at SV1. Rune and sword rarely tops while Shadow is T1 for 5 rotations in a row now
so what can ho chan even do if you call her cute?
how many rerolls would it take to make forest good in take 2? remember they need to beat luminous mage on 5.
>>534804625Smooches and hugs and fugs
>>534797384Aggro has been tier 1 since the start of the set, and control just won a tournament yesterday. What the fuck needs fixing?
who the fuck runs ice pierce
>>5348046812 rerolls
take 2 is a skill based mode so sword being meta doesn't matter you cannot get carried by sword, it's all skill
/svg/'s though about Haven Omen, Wilbert's rival, and savior of amulet Haven in set 3?
>>534804873how do you utilize this card
>>534804873His retrained ver is super cum chalice
>>534805087Why did he become /fit/
Cernunnos (forma de dragon)
I wish, that I could turn back time
>>534805087>amulet lardass hits the gym and becomes a controlchadMotivational
>>534805310is this plesio
>>534805378fes will save us...
>>534805497Yep
https://x.com/_rwael/status/1867459817729929353
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Hochan POWERS
Roachfags must feel so clever until I hit them in the face
I thought the 5 redraws for forest is already up so I entered take-two as one, went 1-2 RIP rupies.
>>534776896https://svgdb.me/cards/103031030
https://svgdb.me/cards/109221020
https://svgdb.me/cards/115621030
https://svgdb.me/cards/128041010
https://svgdb.me/cards/125721020
I'm sure someone knows the ROB lore of this guy, he was job hunting or something.
I played against two swords in a row where they +1pp olivia on turn 6 where the heal actually cucked me from my win. Two games in a row. Who the fuck still runs olivia in sword anyway, I thought most people dropped her already.
>>534804873>4pp lose faster
>>534806403why would they drop olivia?
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Can someone come friend battle me in 21488? Man this place used to be popping...
What kind of archetypes does sword has in SV1?
>>534806650Sword (Alongside portal) is kinda weird. It's home for various test gimmicks that ultimately never pop off and abandoned
Once, Sword's winning condition is decking yourself out
There's also deck with focus on playing cost 1 followers
>>534806650old control sword was pretty fun. once albert rotated they had finishers that were more honest.
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Control decks is time to die
>>534806650ambush sword
cannon sword
loot sword
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>>534806650They have some many traits. They got this card:
>>534806813was this card op or bad
>>534804786Smartbabs
Always have at least 2 targetable kill cards
>>534807049Tier 5 meme trash
>>534806650sword has a lot of meme shit that never took off like the glittering gold stuff
in the end the only archetypes that really worked were aggro, ambush and midrange. control never came back after the early expansions since sword never gets access to good heals
>>534807049SV2 Rose Queen tier
>>534806647still need it?
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>Avengers Assemble
>>534807165evo and loot were strong too
>>534806650Sword was THE walletcraft of SV
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Luna playing abyss
>>534807452Where bronze, silver and gold?
>>534807452I-Is it T1 at least?
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Teased art for set 3, maybe....
>>534807645No. that's a meme. But real decks had around 30 leggos and 10 golds
>>534807649That's just old SV art...
>>534807601why do you think it's called Royal?
>>534807649That's 100% Mjerrabaine. His retrained ver too
>go first
>lose
defend this
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Shadoba evolve have the shift lmao
>>534807883>be sword>go first >winIt's that easy
>>534807883>make a deck without 1 costs>go first >waste 1 pp doing nothing >loseDefend your deck building logic
>>534807982i am sword
playing against another sword
>>534807975evolve spellboost mechanic is super honest
The porn mod is real
https://x.com/niyiya2/status/1954583870571196800
>>534808070>porn mod >the guys are still clothed
>>534808218anon you arent gay right?
>Set 3 releases
>Sword and rune struggle to fill their decks with more overtuned cards
>Control abyss requires over 30 legendary cards
>Dragon gets zero discard or marine support
How do I not forget about Grimnir crest?
What they can do to fix the problem where puppets can't dip into artifact side of the deck?
>>534807645Sword was unplayable in Unlimited format. People were ragequiting when they lost to it
>>534808354you make it a habit to look at crest area every turn
>>534808253>his account isn't 18 years old
>>534807165>sword never gets access to good healsuh?
>>534808448nta but my friend verified his age and even bought premium and this shit still happens
>>534808437Are you saying the deck's so bad, people got angry on themselves for losing to sword?
>>534808387always has been
>>534808637Yes, not just a deck, but the class itself. Unlimited is a format where almost every class had a turn 4-5 OTK, sword was too honest for it.
huh do people still not understand how good of a card olivia is?
>>534808291Would be crazy if next set portal gets an early game
>>534809024>charon downgrade
Portalbros, I don't feel so good
How can the next set save us
>>5348091831-2-3-4 cost cards that give gears AND do something instead of the current waste pp do nothing(unless you waste evo on it)
>>5348091838 cost copy artifact follower to board and activate fanfare.
>>534808371Make a legend that lets you choose and summon 2 5 cost artifacts on fanfare
>>534809183Lishenna will be an extremely strong win condition/finisher for puppet except they will forget to give her amulets banish immunity
Artifact will get another legendary that does nothing without evos
Please continue to enjoy Shadowverse
>>5348091834pp Lishenna will make puppets a tier 0 cancer
>>534809183Hope Portal gets something other than the gundam and puppets.
>>534809183New set of artifacts, Gundam is outdated.
Need more than 1 set to build up the supports though
>>534809402Is puppet really that bad? I feel like they just nuke me from orbit with odin into orchis into orchis
>>534808070>people suddenly no longer dislike playing against rune, sword, and abyss
New portal passive every time you fuse gears evolves a random follower on the board
Class saved
>>534809402banish immunity was extremely rare and her amulets could always be targeted
>>534808070Doll... erotic....
https://x.com/niyiya2/status/1946692167214518513/video/1
>>534809183new artifact combination like delta, vega, theta, zeta
>>534809515If you pressure them to use evos in the midgame and later use Orchis to clear your board, they cannot win at all
>>534809303Artifact catapult is a bait card for real, 2pp fo nothing just so you can pay 3pp for a spell effect. What a shit card.
>>534809402With so many crafts running 3 Odins, Lishenna could be doa.
>>534809183puppets need something better than waiting until turn 7-8 or 10 and hoping you win off double orchis+liam.
>>534809345I'm assuming you meany end of turn effects?
A crest that doubles your EoT triggers would be pretty sick
>>534809630She unironically needs it in WB if she wants to save her deck. Look how crippled Ward is by getting their guy banished even though he still activates the crest. Now imagine an entire wincon you work towards all game like DiB getting removed like that.
>>534808291Dragon will get EGGS to counter early game aggression by suddenly healing tons at 7 PP.
>>534809957Puppets deserve a perma storm crest just like pixies
Perma bane crest too
>>534809962She looks so stinky...
>>534809717>a craft that have 10 storm damage without evo as earlier as turn 7 complain about craft that can only give 9 storm (with Noah set up. 7 if not) in turn 8.
>>534809468Portal is the Weird Shit craft so not unlikely
But the current cardpool is pretty limited so I wouldn't expect it from set 3
>>534810005yeah 18 damage out of hand on turn 8 sounds perfectly balanced
>>534809183Maybe Lishenna will be good enough to replace Portal's strongest card in the 4PP slot: Indomitable Fighter
>>534809183Cards that can put Alpha, Beta, and Gamma into your hand or onto the field would be good. You can make your own Norman if you had a legendary that allowed you to pick which 2 artifacts gets summoned along with it, especially if you didn't need that artifact in your hand. Even Puppet would play that, I think.
>>534809675It could be a 3rd type of gear used to enhance the current artifacts
Alpha + green gear = Alpha mk2 that heals 5 etc
The 3 mk2 artifacts can be fused into a far stronger Omega mk2
>>534809490I feel like 10 pp 10/10 storm ward aura deal 5 aoe to board and heal 5 being outdated this early is a pretty ill omen desu
Bros I have portalkek crying fatigue
>>534810295that sounds really cool
>>534810181If I am ramping twice it means I am likely dead to the second orchis because I have no board and he's free to go all face for like 11 dmg...
Portal gets a 7pp legendary that gives a crest that makes your artifact effects activate twice for 5 turns and the card itself clones 2 artifacts
And she's a loli version of Ralmia with pink hair
>>534810438>Rune can getaway stalling until turn 10 and beyond while Portal is already dead before they even reach Gundam Otk.
Bust inside Ralmia, guilt free
>>534810527same sis, the worst class in the game should thank me for giving them the opportunity to take it up the ass
>>534810262The only class matchup where you can make 3 betas is rune and dragon.
Rune deserves it desu.
>>534809660That's a naked child
>>534809515Master puppetkek here.
Right now puppets have trouble dealing damage to face after you burned all your sevo and opponent is healed.
Against rune it's almost auto loss because of how much healing rune has.
Sword board vomits so much that you will end up burning a lot of cards just to clear them out but it's not one sided as rune so you can still win.
Most of the time midrange abyss will fuck puppets in the ass while aggro abyss dies to puppets.
Roach just eats puppets left and right because it reaches lethal faster.
Ward haven shits on puppets with eternal walls while control haven is more 50/50.
Dragon is also a coin flip, if they are running a lot of healing they will beat puppets, otherwise they will lose.
A lot of portal troubles come from the fact that we need evo/sevo to get effects from our cards while most other decks get everything on drop.
>>534810016they'll go for her second cards's design instead of her first. dib was game winning but it needed 2 turns on top of all the setup and if you didn't draw her by the evo turn the game was lost. if you can get the white or black artifact on fanfare like her storms card, it would be easier to fit into turns with powerful cards to divert attention from it, and be playable before odin can to generate value by healing/damaging
>>534810978>A lot of portal troubles come from the fact that we need evo/sevo to get effects from our cards while most other decks get everything on drop.This all the crafts get shiny free fanfare effects while the portal cards don't do anything you're basically playing with 4 fanfare effects all game and your only hope late game is ralmia which doesn't do much to close games since you don't have the privilege to always build 3 betas
Dragonbros, the Portalkeks are trying to muscle in on our "Worst craft" bitch role...
We keep on fucking losing................
>>534810438It needs the Carnelia effect too where it can't die to a 0pp Samurai.
Lishenna is going to be an artifact card and puppet will get the set's unplayable anathema.
>>534810978I fought puppets as ward haven before. I had no pressure so he just hoarded 0 cost puppets and annihilated my aether buffed board on his orchis turn, I didn't think it was that unfavored.
Forest is too big brained for me
I'm going back to Portal
>sword
>sword
>sword
>puppet
>ward
>puppet
>ward
This is my last seven games. Wtf is this bullshit aggrobros...
>>534810978>A lot of portal troubles come from the fact that we need evo/sevo to get effects from our cards while most other decks get everything on drop.Playing Artifact, it's insane how much difference there is when you can evo Carnelia. If Carnelia's effect wasnt tied to evo I legitimately think AF would be a top tier deck. But right now you want to play it early to stem Sword's aggression or to push damage against Rune. You also need to play Alouette as your first evo turn a lot of the time against Sword and Abyss so it's hard to even find time to evo Carnelia.
>>534811138Even if they go for the reprinted version, assuming the earliest Lish being t4 going first, you will not have enough stuff die to reduce the amulet cost before Odin. Going second maybe you could play one before him if you +pp on t3 but it won't stick for longer than 1 turn, so same shit. All of puppet's damage is backloaded behind turn 8+ + evos so if her amulets can't stick around to burn face into lethal threshold then they're useless.
>>534811341It's funny to see them being this mindbroken just because they were T1 in set 1. Boohoo.
I wanted to play more ranked to grind to master but since I can't count on anyone else to draw Prim fanart instead I will have to practice drawing myself.
After spamming 300 games of aggro, I must say the feeling of slowly strangling a swordbab down to their very last card has been severely missed.
>>534811941/svg/ would riot if abyss or sword become as bad as portal is now in the next set.
>>534811690If he had tons of puppets on hand to clear out your Aether wall it means you didn't have a lot of resistance before you dropped her. Ward haven is not one sided match like rune is but it's really strong against puppets.
>>534811341Portalbabs fell from the top. Dragonbros were always shit.
That's why the babs are crying
>>534812096And I'd love every second of it. I don't really have any animosity towards portal because I didn't hate playing against it in set 1, but like, welcome to the club? We've been shit the whole time, though.
>>534810287>insane payoff that barely needs any synergy from the rest of the deckYeah, that's a rune card alright. Every class should have their Norman at this point.
1 earth sigil per effect is an utter joke, his effect should be locked behind high commitment to earth rite instead of enabling spelltumors to stall for OTK. Lilianthum and her 2 ER to respawn is a joke compared to this guy.
>finally reach 60% in diamond
>it doesn't anymore since apparently I did it with t0 deck as of yesterday...
aieeeeee
>>534812096There's literally no chance of that ever happening
Their cards are too strong
>>534812096it'd be very difficult for them to do because sword and (ironically) abyss are both single classes while a lot of the problem with portal is its two classes at once so they both get half the cards to improve with
>>534811928They made Lilanthim immune to Odin, surely they'll do the same to Lish's amulets. Right?
>>534812221Yeah, the Norman equivalent for Portal would be:
>Fanfare: Use 1 Core from your hand to summon an artifact that usually takes 4 cores to make>Evo: Repeat this effectIt sounds broken as fuck but that's the card Rune got.
>>534811341ITS NOT FAIR
WE KEEP LOSING
forest will get a proper board clear next set
Portal didn't get weaker compared to set 1, sword and rune simply got way stronger. There is a difference.
>>534812549Please no I still have PTSD fron aria's whirlwind
>>534811897Yeah a lot of the class problems would be solved if her buff was a fanfare effect
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So I've been playing all the decks there are, artiportal was the last on my list.
This feels like genuinely the worst deck I've played so far.
Is there anything I can reasonably improve on it?
Lovepuppeteers felt like shit too.
Carnelia is the worst feeling card in the deck honestly. It needing evo + cost of cheating out the gundam parts is just not worth it or not viable more often than not.
Also I get that everything is costed because you can cheat things out multiple times, but I feel like it's just not worth the mana cost?
Like I pay a tax by gathering the parts, then pay full cost 5 for each cheatout and even the 2 drop + 3 engage shit is temporary not permanent on its own.
I had trouble playing against it sometimes so I thought I'd be at least able to enjoy it a little bit, and yeah if your opponent bricks you can roll them hard in a feelbad way, but that is all it does.
The gundam itself is rather dogshit all things considered.
I've considered some replacement cards, but everything needs an evo even the NTR guy.
Maybe I could shove Eudie in there somewhere, but neither the draw nor the heals would be impactful. Medic Assassin is also one I'm eyeballing.
>>534812668>This feels like genuinely the worst deck I've played so far.puppet is worse
>>534812668Play Fennie ramp dragon
>>534812571Yeah portal got a 6/1 ward rush and a 6pp do nothing for legendaries while rune got norman and sword got gildaria
>>534812902dragon is better
>>534812668I'm trying cannon to play the control game, it feels pretty good other than the part where you auto lose vs rune
You're right about the tax, which is why you only get value in the mid-late game outside of alouette evo. You can stabilize really well if you assemble the parts.
>>534812668It's the worst craft for a reason
>>534812984True, Filene is better
Fennie is not a dragon
Forte is not a dragon
>>534812668Some people swear by cannon being able to clear boards but I don't like it as much. You might like it more but it feels too slow against the current meta unless you're coining it out t4.
>>534812841No. Puppet is stronger than artifact because unlike Artifact, Puppet have enough space to slot in strong neutral card like Odin, Olivia, Grimnir and Firestorm duo. You cannot slot that many neutral card in artifact because they need as many artifact generator as possible.
>>534813284>strong neutral card like Odin, Olivia, Grimnir and Firestorm duo
>>534812668you can maybe win against sword if you gamma their boards for 10 turns in a row and stay above 12 hp but you autolose to rune, forest and abyss and aren't really favored against anyone else either, yes including dragon because they shit out healing now
>>534812668hot take:artifact was stronger in set 1. All the shit you added to it from set 2 actually made the deck weaker. Just go back to your old deck.
Anyone else loving the portalkek melty?
God imagine if Sword or Rune goes through the same thing in Set 3 lmao
>>534812841It felt better to play to me.
>>534812902Again, dragon was mad fun for a long time and had decent success with chickenless ramp and aggro.
>>534813154>>534813251I'll try the cannon, but what do you reasonably remove for it? It's also yet another 5 drop that only gets value if the stars align.
>puppet is stronger because puppet cards are so shit your deck is half neutrals instead of anything related to puppets
such praise, i can see why all the tier lists were putting puppet so high
Eudie's crest should be a fanfare effect
portal can't do jackshit once it runs out of evo/sevo
Orchis and Zwei cumswapping
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>>534813509anon puppets are fucking strong ignore the pupets cards
>>534813437They're trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they weren't the top craft last set with Artifact, Puppet and Hybrid. It's literally been a month, we all remember. For fucks sake they were everywhere on ladder.
>>534813380NTA but I've had better luck against Rune because most Rune players have no idea how to react to beta spam since AF is so rare and if they're wasting all their resources on healing and clearing your board, you can keep beta spamming since they aren't threatening you. Once you start getting to t10, if Rune doesn't have their combo then you can play 9 to 12 damage from betas in a single turn and they can whiff their Satan combo and then lose to betas. Karula threatens lethal early on too so a board with Karula and a beta is really strong. Karula in general has won me games against people just hiding him behind the 1/5 ward. That's why Carnelia's effect is so good, she makes really annoying boards that have to be cleared or Karula does 16 damage.
>>534813724being popular doesnt make you the best deck, both rune and forest were better
>>534813428>>534813490I'm using only 2 of each removal spell to let cannon pick up the slack
Sidemote, Artifact is still running hard removal spells so I figured might as well lean more on the control aspect
>>534813710>worse than neutral goblinhow did we get here?
>>534813858its popularity was due to being a budget option
>>534813858You're not gonna gaslight me big boy.
Battlepass is such great value in this game but holy shit comsetics are utter garbage.
>ONE card style for meme card that is somewhat playable
>Ugly male leader (because all cute girls are locked behind gacha to force virgins to spend hundreds of dollars getting them
>globes that dolphins like cant do shit with (I will never own full premium deck anyway)
I just want qt anime girl leader and cute anime card style that ACTUALLY looks different on battlefield
>>534814027sure sword sure
>>534813691Yeah funny how it's also the most evo hungry deck since the cards don't do shit without evos
>>534813843>most Rune players have no idea how to react to beta spamI've trouble believing that considering the entire set 1 they were fighting exactly that
>>534814126>sword clears board with evos>rune clears board with evos>abyss clears board without evosHmmm I wonder why those are the 3 best decks right now. All of them can make it to t10 with evos/sevos in tact, many just use evos to push damage.
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No you see puppets are good
>>534814092It doesn't even give animated versions of said styles.
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>>534795882All Lila-chan needs to be good is this
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A better liam in 99% of games
>>534814290crazy how a 10 cost card is a do nothing without evo
and don't you dare say kuon
>>534814279>sword clears board with evos>>rune clears board with evosWe might not be playing the same game I'm playing shadowverse wb where rune has multiple full board wipes from fanfare 6pp or 3pp spells
Sword has 7pp kill anything 6pp board wipe 4pp board wipe 8pp kill anything and let's not talk about the free super evos
>>534814217There's a lot of fotm Rune and Sword players. Rune required more thought in set 1 before the onions and Norman so current rune players were playing other decks (probably portal). It was also Rune's worst matchup at the time, it's still bad for Rune if they have to spend all their turns healing instead of dropping followerboost cards. Norman is a broken card but normal into 2x healing doesn't push Rune towards getting dclimb down quickly.
>>534796509Oh fuck nice
Did you figure out the encryption issue?
>>534814570It would be mid even if all of that shit was on fanfare for 10 cost.
>>534806650Loot Sword
Cannon Sword
Evo Sword
Hero Sword
Commander Sword
Rally Sword
Natura Sword
>>534814596Forgot about the rune 1pp scale forever into +20 damage for 1pp
>>534814596I'm retarded. All 3 should be
>clears board without evos
>>534807049It puts two followers directly in your hand at the end of turn
>>534814290>10pp do nothing
>>534814817I forgive you bro i know playing rune and sword now that portal is trash causes brain damage
>>534814741yeah, the puppets don't protect against alberto
he'd at least be decent though, if he had something like "give +0/+1 to allied puppets" he'd actually be good
>>534814923worse than orchis while being 2pp more
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>>534807049It was actually playable for a bit
>>534814290>10 peepee>worse than amalia
>>534815123I know right orchis at least drops a 1/6 ward with bane and storm if you have no evos left
>>534814290if the puppets got ward innately he'd be fine. it's actually offensive how much worse he is than amalia.
I still believe Abyss will take the top spot soon
Maybe i just can't fathom that craft with genes of shadow and blood can be weak
>>534814769Ambush was an important one
The you have shit like neutral (pic), officer (Walfrid), Festive (Jiemon), Machina, Follower Destroyed (Lion commander, Tsubaki), Banner, Spartacus, OTKs...
>>534815479Shadow was always on the razors edge between dogshit gimmick and broken bullshit.
Blood was the true gigachad craft all along.
>>534815357you can clear the board with orchis even without evo if you have puppets, liam just exist
>>534815479its good right now
>portal is bad
Then why does it beat the best deck as confirmed at SVO yesterday?
>>534815413It's currently one of the 4 tier 0 classes bro
>>534815491I think follower destroyed is a just a generic mechanic not an archetype
>>534815579>best deck as confirmed at SVO yesterday?i dont see control abyss in that pic
>>534815479>Maybe i just can't fathom that craft with genes of shadow and blood can be weakAbyss is not weak lol. Midrange and Control versions have positive match up vs sword. Aggro farms roaches and runes.
The only reason its not played as much is because sword is much cheaper deck right now.
>>534815534Rune satan dclimb
>>534815672It was proto rally
I changed my mind, dragon is the tier 0 deck of the format.
>>534815479Just one legend can decide the power of the whole deck
If Rune doesn't have Norman or Sword didn't have Gildaria, they would be having harder time too in this meta
>>534815579I dont see any indonesian faces or white trannys though
I lost to a Rose Queen gigachad.
I just don't get this deck. The cannons didn't help. I bullied some sword players but that's about it.
Might as well have saved myself the time against rune.
>>534815921a yes charon and ginsetsu are good now
>>534815917How did he get away with this
>>534815579because the cannon fires over the hags wall
>>534815743>Midrange and Control versions have positive match up vs swordNo matter how hard i try to understand midrange or control abyss i cannot fucking have a positive winrate with it
Aggro abyss meanwhile has 80% winrate vs sword for me and got me topaz to diamond, midrange is taking me diamond to topaz
How the FUCK midrange abyss wins ANY game?
>shit vs sword>concede turn 1 tier vs rune and roach>not even that super favored vs ward haven without drawning in medusa and twin calamitiesI spend hours, watch hours of people playing it and yet, my best result with it after weeks was managing to NOT GO ON A 10 LOSESTREAK EVERYTYIME I TRY IT, i get 10 winstreak with aggro
I AM FUCKING LOSING IT OVER NOT THIS DECK
>>534816251>>concede turn 1 tier vs runeAnon...
Suspicious lack of hags crying after the tournament.
>>534816251Brownoids such as yourself do not possess the requisite IQ to pilot midrange, its that simple.
>>534816251NTA, I'm the same. I think different people unironically can't play some decks even if they try
>>534815579>watch replay>he freaks out when orchis is playedI laughed.
>>534816251I use the exella version of mid abyss and literally all I do is Evo face every chance I get and somehow the stars align and I get lethal.
>>534816559Busy figuring out the next best way to play the victim
when drafting take two do you use your rerolls on ok bronze card drafts to guarantee gold/legendarys or on shitty silver card drafts?
>>534814092>Battlepass is such great value in this game
>>534816046I think that the cannon is only good against Sword. I had much better luck not running the cannon.
>play pure dirtune rune
>idiots leave my 2 drops up and go face thinking im spellboost while I go face too
>edelweiss into a/g a/g odin win
this happens so much
What if...what if dragon never gets their day in the meta limelight...
>>534816430It's so fucking shit playing midrange abyss for me vs rune
There is NEGATIVE early game pressure, same vs sword, you literally can't do shit vs both of them and then you better fucking hope to get that turn 7 and 8 20 damage in one go
it's so fucking trash
>>534816754that is quite possibly the saddest variant of all, a deck trying to larp as aggro with some extra ghost and exella and fails pathetically at it
Running less than 3 Gingestu feels like a fucking suicide with midrange vs sword, you will NEED them because you are not doing anything to them before turn 7
>>534816987we'll get our 2pp ramp back eventually, trust the plan
>>534816987Ramp is also shit in SV1 and even they got to be T1 sometimes, don't give up
What's Ward Haven's matchup spread? Specifically against Midrange Sword and the Abyss decks.
>>534817008Post dick
>NEED the 9pp do nothinglol
>>534816251You need to play about 10 game for the matchmaking to adapt to you and then another 30 to get a good statistic on how you are doing.
I felt the exact same way you do, but stuck to it to get my craft wins up and after 40 games I was somehow in diamond (which I haven't reached prior this season).
You also need to play enough to get a feel for scenarios if you aren't willing to think about opponents curves and your responses prior to playing and are like me who just likes to wing it.
About the lose streaks.
I'm 100% tinfoil on this, there is some kind of fuckery with the matchmaking where it changes the ladder based on your decktype.
So if your matchmaking "experience" is tailored to aggro and you swap all of a sudden it needs some time to go back to normal.
This can cause loss streaks if you keep flipfloping between decks.
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>>534816987Dragon is meta
>>534816987I like dragon being shit tier, it's like having a designated comic relief class in the game.
https://x.com/sakutani_rena/status/1954860424307814518
why would you want ramp to be t1
all the metafaggots will flock to your deck
you will lose all identity and prestige
>>534816645>artifact is so bad it wins with puppet cards>puppet is so bad it wins with neutral cardsthey should have just deleted portal along with blood
I have 79.1% win rate at like 50k RP right now, when I start meeting masters players how much will I drop my win rate?
Never demoted from diamond, multiple win streaks at over 10+
>>534817169they lose to everyone but roach
>>534817309You'll fucking see, eventually...
>>534816987Every class will, it's very volatile. There weren't even any cards rotating out and Portal already went from one of the best to one of the worst.
>>534817309Meme decks aren't complete without Rowen.
>>534817179The few wins i had with this deck happened thanks to the "9pp do nothing" so less than 3 i just believe are not negotiable
How is the sequence of end of turn and start of turn effects determined?
I imagined since my shit clears, they do damage and THEN i heal.
So I'm assuming turn player has priority for a full sequence before opponent gets their effects?
What happens if there is a multi lethal? I know razory claw gold edition kills the opponent before it deals damage to me for example.
>>534817454How the fuck are we supposed to know?
>>534816851If the choices are trash they are trash no matter the rarity
>>534816987If dragon becomes top tier, it'll be a huge betrayal and I won't be able to laugh at dragonfags any more
>>534817309Its perfect that the Timmy "I'm a big boy" craft is dumpster tier
>>534817220>I felt the exact same way you do, but stuck to it to get my craft wins up and after 40 games I was somehow in diamond (which I haven't reached prior this season).I did that with aggro.
I can't just do that with Midrange
I got to diamond to topaz in 2 days playing Aggro Abyss
>>534817008>Running less than 3 Gingestu feels like a fucking suicide with midrange vs sword,I never get to that point because t7/8 is when you kill most of the time. It's obscene how much face damage the deck can shit out every turn. There's your issue though. Going long with abyss is a losing play, that's why control doesn't work. It probably has the strongest mid game at the moment though.
>>534817550https://youtu.be/uqs1pta2HIA
Match starts when the bottom clock reads 23:29
>>534817743right theres nobody here that has recentyl went up to the rank where you meet masters to give me their feedback
How beginner / noob / casual / shitter friendly is this game actually?
We should be able to reveal our hand to our opponent.
Sakakibara has the perfect curve as ward haven vs. elf, might as well just show him the hand and let him ff turn one
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>>534817827i very much get that too coming from aggro but it's just so damn fucking hard with how weak the early game here goes
Rune midgame is a fucking problem and so is sword
Other midrange abyss are a pain in the ass, close to literal free win with Aggro though
>>534817893Why would you experience the same drop as them? We don't know what you're playing, we don't know how well you'll fare vs masters decks, and we don't know the same things for anyone who responds, why would you think there's a set a mount you're guaranteed to drop?
>>534817726the one who ends the turn has all effects activate first, so double gamma wouldn't shoot once to clear a zombie and then once more to clear the respawned one, it'd just shoot twice and then the zombie would respawn
not sure about start of turn effects
>>534817895Very. It's a full digital card game
The one's based on real TCG has more complicated interactions
Honestly I enjoy dragon being shit.
Ramp is cheat, if you want to ramp go play edh, where every deck is designed to have 6 mana on turn 3.
>>534817481That's it? No other favourable or 50/50 matchup?
Was Rune ever bad in SV1?
>>534818193lol
enjoy your peehole stretched out
>>534817895More than the previous game, now you can be a shitter alongside other shitters in your same group
>>534818121That is weird, but I guess it's somewhat similar to yugiohs chains as the last word goes on the "next chain". Thanks.
>>534817658Seems kinda slow, and a little overstuffed. I don't think you need to x3 Charon, and definitelu not Olivia. x2 or x1 them both and drop in some other golds or silvers (preferably of a lower cost so you have something to pressure late game decks with early). I think Mukan has fallen out of favour but I still run him
>>534818181Just play yugioh that doesn't have costs.
>>534818193https://files.catbox.moe/765cke.jpg
>>534818353Yugioh is a geniuinely awful card game even before the deck vomit started
>>534818276More importantly, it's a feelgood system where you never lose rank. In Sv1, I just quit ragequit the season if I wasn't having like 60-70% winrate to actually progress.
>>534818217Cowboy rune was pretty bad.
>>534818462then why and how is it the most popular card game in the west and asia
>>534818404I do this to my fairies
>>534818517Genuinely don't know if you're fucking with me or if that's a real thing.
You could tell me that Cock Dragon was a thing and I'd be just as sceptical.
>>534818217Spellboost is very rarely viable now in SV1 if you can believe it
>>534818706What about Coach Dragon? Where your wincon was a chad football coach for a magic academy?
>>534817895>beginnerNot at all. You are very late to the party and the deck costs are going insane and if you want variety you'll need to cash in $100s.
Even getting a full deck you want (not some shit budget one) will take a while.
>noob/casualVery. You can play as much or as little as you want. All rewards you can get in like 10 min of logging on.
There is nothing complicated about the game.
You don't even have to read any of the cards as the new sets release because after seeing them played 2-3 times you'll just remember anyways.
>>534818706>He doesn't know about Jack Off Dragon
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>>534818706>Cock Dragon was a thingAnon...
>>534818217It doesn't top rotation often nowadays, but it's still T2 deck at most
>>534818217Cards like Maiser or Mystic King got buffed so at those times Rune was probably bad. Not that one time when they buffed Anne despite Mysteria already doing alright though.
>>534818082I dunno. Works on my machine.
>>534818568the poor doggo in distress...
>>534818706There was an entire set based on cowboys that buffed themselves with amulets. Rune got sheriffs theme and their deck was about getting a free silence spell every time they buff and and AoE for every 3rd spell used..
>>534819103there is plenty of 1of there
Will we get Chess rune in SV2 too? The literal "better puppet" deck?
When are we getting Gorilla Forest back?
Word on the street is that the Proletariat Sword archetype will return next set.
why is a dwarf in elf?
is it like how dragonslayers are dragon?
>>534819792Forest girls have a huge bush and dwarfs are also hairy.
I'd rather have pizza sword back
I have a thing for reanimation swarm decks but why the hell are the best actual permanent reanimators in freaking sword haven and rune with onion.
I just want to have an artifact that spawns me skelles each turn is that so wrong.
>>53481920>GrimGreat to get face dmg in without neglecting board
>ExellaAlternative Win con but two bricks you
>Apollo/MedusaCome in clutch sometimes.
I copied it so I don't know the reasoning behind it but to me those are cards that are nice to have, better than the alternative but you never want to draw more than one. The rest of the deck works by itself, never felt like it was missing anything.
>>534819301I wouldn't hate rune players if they looked like this...
>>534819509Bunny ando baron
>>534815491>loli charlemagne
>>534819451Trade off for Mukan and a shit ton of ghosts.
>>534819770I hope the thief treasure shit doesn't return and they find a better gimmick...
Why does Cygames likes unnecessary localization? The JP class names are cooler
Elf - Forest
Royal - Sword
Nightmare - Abyss
Nemesis - Portal
Bishop - Haven
>>534819851Even the little fairies?
>>534820126does it really work?
>>534820146Elf < Forest
Royal > Sword
Nightmare = Abyss
Nemesis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portal
Bishop < Haven
QED
>>534819938>rune with onion.This needs to go for good. There is just no reason for it to generate that much value for that little cost.
I would much rather have ambush frog swordcraft back
>>534820146because american tranny localizers need to add flair and quirks to everything like it's marvelslop
>>534820301The reason is Rune
>>534820146Dragon...is just Dragon...despite it having fish and birbs
>>534820297i like this post
>>534819792Yeah or thieves in Royal
Okay portal is just fucking unplayable.
I'm 2 wins (against sword) 9 losses into this shit.
>>534820404we all evolved from fish
birds are descendants of dinos
>>534820293For me it does in master sapphire. YMMV. Might be lucky who knows.
>>534820146They probably thought it sounded too generic.
>>534820340There's no flair or quirks in the translated names though
>>534820489 svg told me it's op bro
When exactly is new set? This keys I saved are burning hole in my pocket
>>534820146There's a lot of unnecessary name changes too. Like Vampy to Vania. Manaria to Mysteria
>>534820489i just hate the barrier golem so much
the healing and golems are not funny anymore
300+ packs no ticket
should I give up on lucky ticket and save for set 3?
>>534820558Dragons aren't real though
>>534821009only 25000 gold more
>>534821059>believing academic propagandaeducationally cucked. Look into "fossil 358-M" and reread Genesis.
>>534820146translators get paid per word they translate
>>534821090>>534821116thing is I got 3 legends from daily packs and I feel like I got robbed of my luck
I can never get a ticket after that
>look into my flat earth level conspiracy theory
nah I'm good
>>534821009Is there any info on what leaders we'll get for set 3?
>>534821009How tf did you roll so much bro? I have 0 gold income
It's such a shame how stiff the animations are for her.
The start animation which I assume is the only new thing from sv1 is INSANE and has unnerfed tits.
The ingame one though is rather meh :(
>>534820489remove dogshit bricks like icarus
>>534821009I've only gotten 50 rolls in set 2 since I was still focusing on guaranteeing ticket from worlds beyond which gave me orchis, will probably switch to rolling when 3rd set comes out especially if it gos back to being 2 months long instead of 1 so I have more time to hit lucky chest guarantee
>>534821376Swipe the cardu
>>534821357>conspiracy>flat earth levelYou're doing yourself a disservice by basking in ignorance. They existed, and the evidence is poorly concealed
>>534821572holy moly, they are HUGE
>>534821572Isabelle has biggest tits in the game?
>>534821572They didn't put any effort to the leaders outside the gacha ones and to the lesser extend, the SV2 starters
>>534821262Is that related to the high impact and very meta defining card, THE Genesis Dragon Reborn?
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>>534820146german goes pretty hard
Kรถnigsarmee - royal army
Waldgeister - forest spirits
"Magi"
Drachenblut - dragonblood
Nekromanten - necromancer
"Sanguine"
Klerisei - clergy
"Machinae"
>>534821620I mean yeah because the meaning of Dragon is very wishy washy, surely there were some protolizard or dinosaur that would fit.
Unless you wanna tell me they actual spat fire, in which case I would agree that it is conspiracyslop
Atlantis definitely existed though, probably still exists somewhere in the mediterrean sea
>>534821907STOP THIS IS AGAINST THE NARRATIVE
>>534821845That card from rune faction you mean?
>>534821907this game is suppose to DIE
>>534821940English sucks wtf.
>>534821907>valorantWhat? Why? Actual people watch it? I thought it was only bots due to their tournaments having 0 irl audience
>>534821907Do we even need to unleash her at this point?
>>534821907But Duel masters play is supposed to be the more popular digital card game in JP?
>>534816046You beg for Carnelia, Use it on the Beta if you didn't lose more than 5 life in early, alpha otherwise.
Use all your evolves to produce board threats even if you have no followup, the purpose is to force forest to use it's resources
From turn 5 to 7 consider raw dropping 1/5 wards and evolving them. If you are sure you won't need them later
If you reach turn 8 with ralmia, ONLY summon wards/carnelia even of you have 2 hp, don't fucking summon an alpha, you want to s.evo ralmia solely to clear board and the 2/6 wards and you win
>Portal/haven/swordbabs when they go 5 seconds without playing victim
>>534821009Finish the 350 and use vials to craft what you want from set 3.
>>534822624I miss Urias, he was the only cool male leader.
>>534822483Cygan and jews are actually insanely smart.
They will start unleashing all fan service content as soon as game revenue dips below 100m per month.
That's when we are going to get swimsuit vampi.
>>534818547The designs on the monster cards looks awesome thats why
>>534822726add dragon to the list too
When will the SV2 leaders got playable card version? I Want to play Kungfu uncle
SV1 leaders got playable cards at some point, right?
>>534820146The Xcraft sounds cooler weab faggot
>>534821907>julyThats when it was still hype. The game has been dead as fuck after 1.5 week of this ecpac
When are the reveals bros I can't take another game of this faggot meta
>>534821907Surely all this success will translate into bigger and better updates.
>>534823092I honestly wish they just brought back the old leader cards and skip these new ones.
For some reason the sv2 standard leaders feel so soulless aside from like 2-3 of them.
Esperanza, Galan and maybe Kaori.
The rest are giga dogshit.
>>534823723the french slut is nice too
>>534823903>Boohoo... I'm such a sinful person, my hands are too bloody, i so sad...>Continues to execute people anywayShe's kinda shitty
>>534823278>>534823327>>534823772At least 2 of you are lying to me
>>534824097that's how life is.
>>534823903Idk man, she is hot, but something about her face and voice just ruins it for me.
When she says that french whatever it reminds me of that skunk cartoon it's so cringe.
French in general is cringe and I'm kinda glad the barbarian tide has consumed them.
>>534823903She is cute but that horn on pauldron is super retarded
>>534824097set 3 will come with her incredibly deep story, you will see!
HAVENGOD DROPPED TO RUBY!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please pay SV1... these queue times are atrocious....
>>534824295Her eye distance and no nose face bothers me more than her shoulder armor. It's like she has down syndrome
>find stream of guy playing midrange abyss
>after this he switched to rune
>>534824273i loved that guy as a kid. i guess you're an oji-san too.
imagine marie hunting you down like that skunk does, talking about how sad both of your fates are and that you only find solace in each other's arms etc.
>ignorant ameritards are repulsed by culture
can't make it up huh
>>534823903I finally bought BP just to get Silvarius to replace her. Should've rerolled for Albert...
>>534823723The OG leaders feel homely and restrained, the new ones too tryhard and over the top to be protags
>>534825002we get it, you like penis
>>534824331Maybe she should try playing a real craft instead
>Actual dubfags in my thread
>>534823903She's so much better than Erika the angry aggressive lesbian.
>>534825304toyed with by urias till she couldn't walk anymore...so hard that she followed him
lesbian corrected by COCK
>>534821907uh... doomerbros?? our narrative??
>>534823092I kinda wants playable main story villains too, they can just do a set with main story as the focus for0 legends, like playable Nio and Diawl, Playable Marie and Silvarius
>>534825543"More fun to watch than to play". Like Hearthstone.
Junos crest doesn't reset if you evo a second one?
What?
I like the dub because its british
>>534826009STEAK TO YER PATH NO MATTER DE HARDSHIP
>>534826009Unlike Britain
>>534825819No crest stacks, if you want to get new one, you have to wait until the old one expires
>>534825815nowadays, that feels like the case for a lot of games
games can be exhausting to play at times eapecially when you lose
>>534826009YER ASKIN FUR A HEX MATE
>Everyone talking about portal
>Play game
>3 portals in a row
>Promote back to diamond
>>534816251don't fall for the bait midrange abyss is a damn joke you can't win with it. sword outpaces you at every point the only advantage you had was face damage and you just screwed that over by running midrange. Sword has a finisher at 9+sevo for 12 to your face you have nothing you can't even clear most of their boards, zirc magus amelia have no efficient answers for abysscraft.
"mid" range abyss is just a trick by the swordfags to trick aggro abyss players into bricking themselves by putting in late game cards instead of going all in.
>>534826142Yeah, it's a very different dynamic. For card games,when a deck like Sword or Rune highrolls a streamer it's really funny. Especially if they rage, but losing because Rune pulls DClimb->Satan->DClimb->Silent Rider->DClimb->Silent Rider is a lot less funny when it happens to you.
>>534826724aggro insta dies to luminous mage
>>534826724set 3 will give the key card that will turn Mid range abyss into T1. believe
>>534826998you can reliably clear one luminous if you keep aragavy for that case. somehow i keep running into swords that play 2 in a row...
>>534826147We're nearly there!
>>534827065apollo is a shit card
what's THE aggro abyss list? sv wins is all midrange piles
>>534827065>>534827164you already used your aragavy on zirconia
>>534826998Many things have issue with that broken bitch.
Aggro made me value my time more. Similar results, 50% or less of time.
>>534826998aragavy can mitigate it and still get the 3 evo damage, it sucks but that's really your only answer. on the brightside luminous doesn't give rush so they basically do nothing on the board that turn and if they evo magus to ram into one of your units that's fine too.
>>534827330no i didn't because i run the 2 pp 2/2 shield that does 4 dmg on evo (plenty of necro at that point)
>>534827291This guy tried all crafts for 50 matches and decided dragon was THE craft.
Dragon naysayers, your response!?
>>534826724You need to be more specific
Are you talking the ghost exella teched midrange or the midrang with 9p do nothing
>>534827653it's just... the only fun craft...
>>534827694midrange with 9pp do nothing dies to fucking dragon, the winstreaks are 100% bait
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>>534827694everything that isn't pure aggro. every single card in your deck had better include face damage storm or summon ghosts. except ofc beloved 2 copies of charon for emotional support. and beryl.
I'll even ditch the 2 cost 2 bats cause it doesn't give storm without vampy.
>>534828441If this is the default list, is
>>534828235 gigabrained or a tard by cutting out olivia and such in favor of dark sides?
>>534828441i really don't like olivia in my aggro deck. every time i draw her early it's a brick and when i have a situation on turn 7 with a ward that she could smash + 5 face dmg from mummy, i might as well just play odin for 7 dmg...those 2 slots could be used for something else that works early game.
From my experience if by turn 3 sword has hp advantage over your blood deck with like 3-5 it's game over and you can just quit the game. You have to go second and make your Beryl get at least one hit.
>>534828670>>534828635It just seems like a gigantic cope. If you're playing aggro and you're at the point where your best bet is to play a 7 PP draw cards do nothing, you've already lost the match 90% of the time, no?
>>534828670bat healing bro, 6 healing, draw 2, remove 2 things, deal 2 damage. good shit.
>play 1 (ONE) game on trune for the spells daily
>instant matched against the rose queen meme deck
It's even sadder because I won that game at 1 hp, fuck this retarded nigger tranny craft
>>534828893you are too retarded to play this game
>>534828893pretty much. you either win by turn 5-6 or odin at 7 at the latest. if you need to drag it to turn 8 then you already lost 9/10 times and that 1 time isn't worth the bricked games that olivia causes with early draws. you're already playing most of your hand till turn 6 and with her you can't.
>>534828893Yes, turn 7 is for landing your finisher - Odin, Estrella board, Vuella fueled Ghost or Mummy.
>>534828235Nigga bats carry aggro
>>534828969You've just already lost against me every time if you're in a situation where you're using olivia, so that's just my other deck pov on your 2 brain cell deck.
>>534827291200 wins with each craft next?
>>534828635it's great removal early game and is basically 2pp for 2 dmg late game. olivia is a brick for everything till the last 2 rounds and if you're evoing for face you'd rather have odin most of the time over her for the finisher. at least charon's playable 2 turns sooner to stablize your board if need be.
At that point if you have a ghost in hand which you probably do you'd rather have almost anything over olivia dark side rage vuella for that last bit of damage.
>>534829212I'd rather kys myself than win 150 matches as rune, forest or portal again
>>534828893Olivia + Mummy is just another Odin
>>534828635it's the list the top mp aggrotard is running, he swaps olivias for apollos sometimes
>>534828893olivia bat vs mirror or olivia mummy to heal up while still pushing damage and presenting a threatening board are both solid plays
and yes you sometimes do want to heal otherwise you can die from your selfdamage + random ass odin
>>534828926good shit for mid range that wants to survive longer but not aggro that NEEDS to kill at 7, preferably earlier, or runs out of steam.
>>534829408YOU'RE ALREADY RUNNING 3X ODIN YOU DUMB NIGGER
>>534829132the 3pp that summons 1 bat sure but i sure as hell am not playing a summon 2 1/1 do nothing that turn its too slow without storm.
>>534829560exactly so why the F are you running olivia you goddamn twat. you already have the top curve occupied.
>>534829534it's extra gas to get you over the finish line.you can make fucking good ass plays at 7pp with vuella. odin is obviously great too. i beat haven on turn 9 while playing it like 30 minutes ago. cleared his aether wards with olivia and then won.
>>534827291>40% ruby>35% sapphire>35% topazIt was already sullied moron
>>534827292Have fun trading with forest before 5 after one hickup.
>>534829772Yeah it's not fucking like you can turn 5+ aryll + bats
Even the aggrobab streamer only plays raw bats turn 2 with nothing else and i still would not disrepect them
Especially vs rune these fucks will go face played turn 2 or coined, it's a shit play vs sword but they can clear all your turn 2 with no effort anywyas
>>534829807you don't have vuella on turn 7 with olivia. you're assuming that you still got one on board which is ludicrous with most crafts that clear you every turn by that point.
again, the one time that olivia works on turn 7-8-9 doesn't make up for all the other times that she bricked your early game by being a dead card.
>>534829807it makes you lose out on lethal more times then it helps from my experience. you're trading 5pp for 2 heal 1 damage and a card, when you could've just drawn into something to give you that extra bit of damage.
If it was a 5 cost outright i'd probably include it but 7 is too much even if you get the refund.
>>534829772Many times Odin isn't enough to end the game, it is good to have an additionnal body, 2 cards and some heal to last a turn longer
>>5348301932 card combos are inconsistant and fucking suck so yeah i agree. especially since bats kinda suck individually you only really need 1 to buff and evo to begin with.
Dark siding a bat is do 2 heal 2 for 2pp that you can also use as removal.
>>534830428>Many times Odin isn't enough to end the gamethat's where you already quit on turn 5. if you can't finish on turn 7 then you failed as aggro and queue new game.
>>534830228>you don't have vuella on turn 7 with olivianot with olivia, but it gives you gas to make plays on turn 7 or 8 and it usually provides 2 chip that can clear wards in the process.
>>534830428if you have to waste an evo on olivia in aggro you more often then not are already dead,
that olivia could've been literally anything that deals 2-3 damage to the enemy face and aggro abyss doesn't need card draw since you have soiree anyways and are trying to close it out asap
>>534830546you don't need gas you need TO WIN on turn 7. why won't you get that? you're aggro not mid range and all other crafts have better turn 8 to deal with you. it's a waste of time more often than not.
>>534830543Thats why you are a topazGOD
>>534828893Olivia in aggro is like Ch*ron in mid range, they both occupy a space that doesn't actually matter. The core of the deck is already there.
You could replace them with anything and there will be times where the tech wins you games while the rest of the time it does nothing at all.
>>534830543that's stupid
aggro has potential to do up to 80+ damage from face
it just lacks draw and removal to control into late game
but just because you failed to end the game at turn 7 doesn't mean you can't win
>>534830228>olivia works on turn 7-8-9You mean beryl on turn 2 of next game
Who the hell willingly runs aggro to play losing battle? Norman heal - quit, haven ward - quit, zirconia leftovers - quit. Simple as. Just play hag talisman if you want second late storm swings.
they should make it so that Eudie get mad at you when you don't listen to her advice
>>534830174not sure what do you even mean
forest uses fairies to kill your board and if your board is empty while theirs is full then you're losing the fucking game anyway and apollo is not changing that
>>534830767>the one time that olivia works on turn 7-8-9 doesn't make up for all the other times that she bricked your early gamemy dude at least read the sentence correctly. i am arguing that olivia is stupid and you cherry pick half the sentence to tell me she is stupid?
>>534830748>it just lacks drawyou're completely missing the point of aggro deck if your intentionally sacking your damage for draw. aggro abyss doesn't need draw you already have that from regular hand you aren't trying to get efficient board you're trying to rush the enemy face down that's why you're literally evoing to do 2 damage to their face on a ghost which no other class would deem efficient.
No if you didn't end it by turn 7 with all evos used up you've lost that's why you're playing aggro you literally have no backup plan because there isn't a need for backup plan that sabotages your chances of winning
>>534830676>aggro abyss doesn't need card draw since you have soiree>aggro>soiree
>>534830509Vuella is 2 a card combo too you dipshit
Dark Side is a 2 card combo
Yet Aryll+bats summon is bad
Ok
Why the fuck you run soiree too lol
You get your ghosts from memorial and pumpkin girl
This really is topaz central huh
it's dawning on me that /svg/ can't into aggro abyss.
>>534830709the inclusion of 2 cards allows you to turn around otherwise unwinnable matches in a meta where sword and rune can pick apart your early boards. when these decks go out of their way to use their cards to clear you, that's when olivia comes in and you can sneak out a win. your extra 2 drops get cleared by all the same board clears your current ones do unless you're coining out fighter.
>>534831151vuella is a 2 card combo that works with literally everything in the goddamn deck that has storm or summons a ghost you absolute retard.
Olivia underperforms odin with mummy which is the optimal pick.
oh really lets look at facts aryll + dark side, evo 5 damage to the face heal 5-1
aryll + bats summon 5 damage 5-3 heal
oh what's that dark side is better in every situation?
what about without aryll oh wow you just wasted 2pp to summon 2 1/1/s that do nothing.
Meanwhile dark side lets you trade up and is removal.
Ya bat spell fucking suck.
>>534831263The top diamond players with thousands of wins on aggro abyss say this card is good, but here comes some random shitter to tell you why you should run Dark Side instead of Olivia and lose every mirror match to bats.
>>534831310>drop olivia with mummy to clear a ward and hit face for 5>suffer the possibility of 2 7pp cards in your early game handor
>drop odin to banish ward and hit face for 7>suffer the possibility of 1 7pp card in your early game handif you can't finish at 7 then you get the 8 cost ward circus from sword into your face and all the olivias in the world can't help you finish then.
if you can't finish here
>>534831539>netdecking faggot can't argue>muh that player says its goodthey're also netdeckers you fucking retard
if you can't argue facts then gtfo you're just a cocksucking retard
>>534831539the fact that they cant understand the simple fact that drawing olivia represents an extra turn in time for you and 3 extra draws is just insane , with 2 ping on face and the bat heal in the mirror.
>>534831539you keep parroting this but he swaps that card out all the time. you don't even watch that guy you just netdeck without any thought put into it.
personally i run the 2pp 2/2 ward for board clear evo and not dark side but anything goes to win faster instead of a 7pp brick that doesn't help you win faster.
>>534831764>learning from someone with more experience than you bad
>>534831776you're a fucking retard who doesn't realize playing olivia is -5pp and ends your goddamn turn. if you think your last evo isn't important then gtfo you fucking retard
>>534831914if you can't argue logically why and just go muh that player does it then you're a retard netdecker its not hard to maintain a 55% winrate with the meta deck you need to know why something is good and clearly you're a fucking retard who just goes netdecking good I smart I metasheep
instead of actually playtesting.
Why won't you guys just play a few matches with your prefered deck in the lobby? Instead of theory, put it in practice test.
>>534832229i did grind 30k points with aggro abyss in 2 days. i got more than enough practice.
>>534830543Well, that's the point of playing Olivia. Helps to not automatically throw the game if it goes beyond turn 5
>>534832229last time I sat on the knock up table I got endlessly sucked off for hours...
>>534832161Your homebrew is shit shutup retard
>>534832229i'm willing to bet the olivia simps have 0 aggro abyss playtime and just watch some nolifer on stream.
>Olivia is better against sword and ward
>unironically planning against ward
Back is Saph!
Storm ramp is a fun deck.
Sometimes you just lose.
Other times you OP realizes they don't have an actual answer to Forte.
Very funny when its a swordbab that Valsed early.
>>534831764You're an idiot. After 1000 games they'll know Iif the card works or not. It stays in the deck for a reason. Post your profile, let's see those abyss wins and your master diamond rank.
>>534832006The sevo still gives you 2 damage instead of 3 and it gives you 2 more cards to work with. Sometimes the sevo damage is 4 instead of 3 if you use her with a ghost or mummy that can hit face.
>>534832408how often do i need to say that that 1 time where you actually win with her isn't worth all the other games where you could've drawn a early game pressure card... usually you get greeted by more wards in turn 8 and just lose anyways. it's about consistency and not BUT THAT ONE TIME SHE WAS GOOD.
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>sit on the table
>rando join
>sword
>me roping every turn
>quit before getting killed
>>534832490the aggro netdeck got me to diamond
>>534832460you're a literal braindead retard who goes
>muh i can't argue why but that guy did it and he plays more so it has to be right.Fucking disgusting pathetic midget virgin
>>534832408Olivia is an auto brick until turn 6-7 how do you think adding a 7 cost that is subpar is a good idea in a facerush deck
>>534832602Thank you for your service
>>534832602thank you for your service.
>>534832548>Sometimes the sevo damage is 4 instead of 3you...you don't even know that the mummy is 5 sevo damage? do you even play abyss?
i bet you could just take off charon for olivia and have better results
>>534832589>early game pressure that still dies to board clears and then you loseOlivia is a card that allows you to capitalize on your opponent going all in to stop your aggression by giving you 1 last push and making a board that can be difficult to clear.
>>534832548how about you post yours and show me your master diamodn rank instead of being a pathetic netdecking retard who literally can't even argue.
>>534832548its a 2 card combo that underperforms odin and you could've literally drawn rage dark side anything that pushes you to lethal damage you are literally fucking sabotaging by being a retard.
>>534832161I was not that anon or anons you were arguing with. I was pointing out how net decking and learning from them is not inherently a bad thing. There are a lot of arguments on why they run olivia or the bat spell already, just not on the post you were quoting.
I only use olivia because I have the alt art and can style on poorfags
>I run bad cards because I'm a special snowflake and not a netdeck sheepie
>>534832780The base value of the sevo becomes 4. 1 from Olivia's ping and the 3 from the sevo on the mummy. Meaning Olivia's sevo gave you 1 extra damage compared to a normal 3 extra points of damage on an sevo.
>>534832859riddle me this bro. if we go with your example that my early board gets cleared constantly and we get to turn 7 with olivia, won't that mean that we did jackshit to the opponent and he sits on 15+ hp? this game will drag into turn 10 territory and no craft loses against aggro that late.
>inb4 that one time i beat haven in turn 9consistency not rare chances
Convince me with one scenario where I play Olivia on 7 instead of
>3 1pp / crypt and Estella
>Vuella(s) with mummy/ghost/crypt/whatever survived on board
>Odin
>Serpents with Ghost
>>534832806tried that and that tanked me to ruby, olivia is bad all the time charon is situationally useful.
>>534832609everyone's in diamond with aggro abyss.
>>534832876yes and you need to know why, instead that retard
>>534831539 and you by extension for quoting me and impersonating him are literally going
>he play alot he must know the best deck.do you see his games do you see olivia doing amazing damage because i can tell you for a fact she fucking is the most irrelevant card in that 40 card deck and cost people more games then not and is literally the first card you remove.
>>534833069the scenario is you didnt draw perfect lethal
>>534832708whats your aggro apiss list then?
this pile?
>>534828235so the argument is that charon is better than olivia and that dork side is a secretly amazing card? i-interesting..
>>534833053cute attempt to slither out of that fuck up but nobody argues with just +sevo values as that's futile, it's always the full damage. the full damage is 6 with 1 ping and 5 mummy odin is 7...you could've played odin for the same cost, less hassle and no early game brick. WAOW
>>534833141And how that one turn helps in this scenario?
>>534833185unironically yes darkside is fucking amazing, its the closest thing you get to another 3 copies of rage without the downside and being able as a psuedo removal.
>>534833307by drawing perfect lethal for next turn
>>534833058You can still do damage and then have your board die to an aoe clear. Then you're out of gas so you lose on turn 5 because haven had Safela or Rune had Anne? God forbid you want to win against Rune or Sword in a meta full of rune and sword.
>>534832589Same could be said about Odin who share the same cost, that's a retarded argument. Deck has a shitton of low cost cards for early pressure, running 2 Olivia won't brick your hand unless you also run shit that has no place in aggro like Soirรฉe or Charon
Why do I rarely see midrange abyss use the 1pp killspell?
Most of their midgame removal is the bane granter guy and mino.
>>534833538because thats a deck that doesn't want to sacrifice board
>>534833538because it's not that good when you have mukan or mino
>>534833492i don't run that other shit but you're forgetting that odin is 7 damage not just 6. 1 damage difference is huge for aggro and there is a smaller chance to get bricked. there is 0 argument to run olivia for consistent fast clears but only for rare games when you won against all odds.
you finish with odin in turn 7 or you fuck off, it's that simple. olivia doesn't make the odds more positive but actually worse for that outcome.
>>534833349you need a body to attach it to, most of them won't survive and the ones that do benefit more from combos with different cards you should spend that 2pp on.
>>534833538too little value for a card
abyss has fucking abysmal draw
Why not just running 1 DAO?
>>534833121It was your own fault to think that I was that anon.
>do you see his gamesI don't. I don't watch a lot of shadowverse stream. I myself am trying a one of olivia and so far in the 15 games I have played with her, she won me the games when I drew her. Of course 15 games is a very small sample size and I am still testing, but I used to also think that running olivia is stupid. Right now I think I might keep it as as a one of. Two olivias however just seems like asking for a brick.
>>534833141lets see what you can get on turn 7,
mummy+vuelle+darkside for 9
odin for 7
obviously multiple rages outperforms anything else.
Meanwhile with olivia your best case scenario is 6 damage
and thats with specifically mummy,
>>534833492odin is a default delete 1 storm 4/2 to the face no evo needed.
Olivia needs a 2 card combo and underperforms by 1-2 damage.
hence you always want odin as your top curve and basically never olivia.
Soiree is way better for aggro then olivia is because its a 2 cost 1/1 that gives you a ghost, soiree is all the card draw you need running olivia is retarded
>>534833491i dunno what you're on about. so you're saying we die before we get to olivia? which i'd agree on but i thought we're arguing for how amazing olivia is? so your example from before doesn't actually work to get to that case but was just to try to win the argument with denying normal aggro an early game but fucks over both cases, welp.
>>534832861>refuses to post his profileNot a good luck, aggrobab. If your deck is so good you should want to show that off.
>>534832958Fenie wouldn't say this...
>>534833757If you run 3 odin your odds won't be any better or worse running than running olivia in your deck in turn 7, in turn 8 your odds are better with olivia and you could push a finisher if you couldn't in turn 7
>>534834169She would if she had to read multiple days of arguing about Olivia.
>>534834054>so you're saying we die before we get to olivia?You don't understand bat healing. You don't understand the strength of the deck, you only understand going face. A true aggro player, the retard of legends spoken about in every card game. Everything must go face.
>>534833794you have 6 copies of ghost between the 1 drop 3 copies of soiree and cemetary.
they always survive because you literally evo them for the hp then use that to survive dark side.
Why the hell would you dark side something that would die.
2pp to do 2 damage to the enemy face is literally among the best things you can get for aggro abyss there isn't a "better combo"
the ideal turn 7 combo excluding rage.
outperform is mummy vuella dark side for 9 to the face.
there isn't a 7 cost combo that outperforms that doesn't involve preexisting board state with excella.
>>534826724>sword outpaces you at every pointEvery sword deck wins turn 4 if the board isn't wiped on 3, is THE reason everyone needs their salefa/gravy/alouette/glade on turn 5, and demands evoless board wipes and hard removal after turn 10. There's not a single weak turn unless they are going first and don't draw quickblader
>>534834281>If you run 3 odin your odds won't be any better or worse running than running olivia in your deck in turn 7bro please stop... this is basic math. if you run 3 7pp cards or 5 7pp cards is there a difference in brick chance? THINK
>>534834007you replied to me after that retard made the most asinine comment so fuck off you cocksucker you are him now. there we're even.
how many games do you think people have lost because olivia is useless in the hand?
do you have a copy of charon try using her over olivia. she doesn't brick your hand till turn 7
>>534834343when have i ever said anything against bat healing? or are you arguing that you want to use olivia sevo for a fucking bat? that's 2 face damage and a heal to get greeted by strong turn 8 plays from every craft or OTK from roach. what are you even doing, bro?
>>534833757>odin is 7 damage not just 6. 1 damage difference is huge for aggro and there is a smaller chance to get brickedThat's why Odin is better and should be run at x3 while Olivia is a more situationnal 2-of, that's not the point. Doesn't mean she's a bad pick tho
>there is 0 argument to run olivia for consistent fast clears but only for rare games when you won against all odds.Which aren't rare at all considering every deck can stabilize and cuck you out of T7 Odin lethal. Good players find ways to win even when odds are stacked against them instead of just throwing when it goes past turn 7
>>534833836apollo olivia balto are flex slots and you can make up arguments for moving them around or replacing them entirely with something else
>>534834131because you're just going to cry muh not masters irrelevant after you just showed how much of an asinine imbecile you are.
>>534834578You said
>so you're saying we die before we get to oliviaYou're not dying because there's bats
hey how long till people realize aryll + dark side evo bat heals you for 4, but aryll + bat spell only heals you for 2.
>5 7pp slots isn't actually worse than 3 7pp
>sometimes you win at turn 9
>good players will find ways to win anyways
i've given multiple actual match examples why olivia doesn't work and only get this shit back. i rest my case and embrace a new bread whenever.
>>534834638hopefully nobody makes one until the reveals start
>>534834692Thank you for admitting that you aren't in master and aren't experiencing the same meta. Have a nice day.
>>534834948no problem you're just an absolute moron who only knows how to cocksuck streamers instead of actually being able to argue kindly go kys.
>>534834737maybe go back to the comment that i replied to about that. because he or you said we lose on turn 5. olivia has nothing to do with turn 5, besides sitting on your hand and blocking off the chance to have a useful card there instead - which is also my point among the other that you can't afford turn 8+ games.
>>534834875Having a wider board helps especially in aggro
>>534835071widerboard is a bad thing when everything gets cleared every turn all that matters is the face damage and heal
>>534834948he might not be but i'm in master.
t. 2pp 2/2 4dmg evo ward anon
>>534834052Except Olivia is not just card draw, it's heal + 2 sevo bodies + card draw, and pushes for more damage than Soiree in total. That's what makes it good
>>534834542I am still trying the one of olivia, I might try replace her for one charon later after I feel I have played enough games with it.
>AA or below TopazGOD vs this guy
who knows the deck more?
>>534834638olivia didn't top deck a new thread, it's over
>>534835279friendly reminder that olivia gets swapped out. if she's so strong why does he take her out?
>>534835218bat summoning combos with Exella too
>>534835365If she's so weak, why does he add her back?
>>534835365you're not supposed to point that out!
feel free to use olivia but don't come crying to me when you lose more games than you think.
>>534835228soiree gives you a ghost in hand 1/1 on the field and a 2/2 that most boards
olivia is 5pp for 1 damage in a deck that wants to rush people down. you don't need card draw if you're running soiree.
having a 2/2 regenerate on the field almost always garantees you board presence on the following turn
>>534835218Wide board is good against rune since it is harder for them to full clear it turn 1-4. Sword can just btfo your early board every time.
>check english sv streamers
>one guy with 88 viewers
>default avatar (pink, probably tranny)
>broken mic with constant static
Game is fucking dead in the west
>>534835365in his last 9 hours of stream he went back running 2 olivia
>>534835365>>534835457You are both right in your own way!
What a beautiful moral to this story, you can stop arguing now!
>>534834619The only correct statement ITT
>>5348354156 cost is a bit too slow for a 3/5, not really a fan when you could've just excella + dark side for the same damage
>>534835218this nigga really think going tall is better than wide
in any card game ever
>>534835457because he likes her card and desperately wants her to work. also grinding so many games fucks with your brain, changing things up for a fresh approach is a thing that doesn't mean she's good.
>>534835695it's a pretty crazy thing to say in swordverse in particular.
>>534835584and how many times has she won him the game vs sitting in his hand blocking a spot?
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>>534834431That's literally every single deck in the game and they rarely brick, you won't brick with just 2 extra 7 costs retard
>>534835935something every pro olivia anon has done the whole time while i gave on match examples that she doesn't work and pollutes your draw. whatever man, enjoy playing her and see you in the new bread.
>>534834875that's true, but have you thought about aryl + bat spell + evo? fucking retard
>>534835695same damage bigger body +2 hp inexchange for 2 1/1 and 2 less hp
I'll take the 2 hp thank you very much.
I expect my board to be cleared every single turn
>>534836019it's not about running higher cost cards but that the AMOUNT has the SAME chance even though you use MORE. reading comprehension must be really bad today...
>>534836192read what i said you fucking illiterate.
that's literally the same thing dipshit the extra 2 bats cost you 2 less hp.
dark side gives you that hp because you aren't summoning 3 bats just 1.
>>534835514>soiree gives you a ghost in hand 1/1 on the field and a 2/2 that most boards Yeah, for a total of 5pp. That's nice, and Soiree is a good card, but for aggro that is excruciatingly slow
>olivia is 5pp for 1 damageNo she's not. She's 5pp for 1 damage, 3 more with another follower, clearing a threat, healing for 2, drawing 2 and leaving 2 decently sized bodies on the field.
>you don't need card draw if you're running soiree.Soiree doesn't do much at that point in the game, even early it's too slow for aggro. At turn 7 a 5pp 2/2 + 1/1 add a ghost to your hand and do nothing are a waste of mana
>>534836303Put it in a exact percentage and you'll realize how retarded you sound
>>534836470disagree 2 for a 1/1 that gives you a ghost in hand is super valuable.
it is when you compare her to what you could've just straightup done, mummy sevo.
the only thing you're getting out of olivia is the 1 damage and a removal.
you're way underestimating how valuable rotting zombies are for aggro if you don't have anything to play, a 2/2 on the board that the enemy can't remove is actually enough to make or break it for you. and soiree's low enough that it easily fixes your curve.
Ya no shit you're only comparing it at turn 7 at which point every early curve card sucks. soiree on 2 for a 1/1 zombie on 3 is a legit boom for aggro since that 2/2 is really hard for peopel to remove. meanwhile olivia is only useful in the last or second last turn of the game