Thread 544520981

#1965 - Halo 5's 10th Birthday

Halo Info:
>"Halo: Campaign Evolved" launches in 2026
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/halo-campaign-evolved/9N683TDT5M7R/0010
>Latest Infinite Update (10/7)
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/survive-the-undead
>Halo Studios announces "Halo Fest"
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-announced

Halo News:
>Halo: Campaign Evolved Roundtable Reveal
https://youtu.be/e-tXi1NC_aU?si=bOtWcXCi_uCKVfH0
>Halo: Campaign Evolved "The Silent Cartographer" 13-minute gameplay demo
https://youtu.be/hSjbIM0iegY?si=xRc0YMVmiAXcB7Jo
>Halo: Campaign Evolved Rolling Stone Dev Interview
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/rs-gaming/halo-campaign-evolved-remake-impressions-1235451111/

Previous >>544365657

Play Halo
Talk about Halo
Have fun

Bleach is the root of all.

>leftards when they discover that halo is right wing religious on theme, lore, music and story

these "people" really can't think critically

>Yeah, they gave it their best shot.
>But they didn't count on running into the biggest squad of Marine badasses in the Corps!

Locke deserved better

>multi-ethnic empire genociding the overwhelmingly white/anglo humans
>aliens have a ship called "Truth and Reconciliation"
>game developed and released as the South African Truth and Reconciliation commission was wrapping up
What did Bungie mean by this?

>>544521170
I want to take screenshots like this. I wish MCC would add theater mode to CE somehow.

>multi-ethic empire run by tiny minority with distinct long appendage and wield all the power and influence
>wants to replace their intelligent noble warriors with dumb, obedient thuggish apes
>replaced because they ask too many questions
What did Bungie mean by this?

>>544521404
use mods

>>544521317
>>544521508
why did you double post

>>544521510
Any recommendations? Have you taken any screenshots with them that you could show?

>>544515971
When the Bungie games came out they were probably the best FPS games on console. Eventually the competition made an effort to create other good FPS games for console.

Holy hell the Halo fanbase is irredeemably trash at this point. How the fuck is this schizo meeting point one of the more calm places to actually talk about Halo?

>>544520981 (OP)
The Best Multiplayer since Halo 2™

>>544520981 (OP)
Reach a shit

>>544521890
>Reach out of nowhere
Derangement Syndrome
Reach is fine btw

>>544521890
Seems unhygienic.

>>544521753
Even here's gonna be fucked for a while thanks to tourists coming by because of the whole ICE thing

How to save Halo:

1. Keep supporting MCC and make it work very well on PC and Xbox Series consoles. Perhaps even port it (or part of it) to PlayStation/Switch to generate more interest in Halo.

2. Develop a new Halo game which can compete with other modern FPS games. Don't try to force a new "classic" Halo game. "Classic" Halo fans can play a supported, bug-free MCC. A new major Halo game needs to appeal to today's gamers, as many of them as possible. If sprint widens the appeal, so be it. The priority should be a compelling FPS game that is popular with both gamers and critics.

You're welcome.

>>544522215
I'd rather have the /pol/tards turn this into a designated shitting street for a while then the 62IQ mongoloids from the modding discords and Jewtube comment sections show up.

>>544522217
Are FPS even popular these days? I rarely see anything new that sticks around for long. Apex Legends was the last big new FPS i can think of, and that has already been forgotten by many.

>>544522367
CoD still sells a ton with each release

>>544521620
I don't now because I'm at work
When I get home, if I remember, I'll respond with some
Sorry

>>544522367
CoD, Siege, and at least right now Battlefield are popular
CSGO is also popular on PC only

>>544522436
No Halo bundle, Sad!

how to actually save Halo:

1. only White and Japanese men on the development team

2. they must all be under the age of 25

3. they must be normal

thats how its saved

>>544522692
>2. they must all be under the age of 25
>3. they must be normal
Mutually exclusive. No one under the age of 25 is the kind of normal that would make a Halo game in the way you would want it to be done. No, we have to kidnap a bunch of 6 year olds and subject them to intensive training and indoctrination on 80s and 90s action media and mecha anime. We can call them something greek, with a 2 on the end in roman numerals because why not?

>>544521748
Oh yeah, I know about that, just I never really was all that bothered about it as some people seem to be. Honestly, I think some people might be posturing about how much they like halo. I might replay CE later, though.

>>544522716
CEMake will probably end up being more or less "fine".
Ironically, the things they change the most will probably be the most appreciated, where as things that are more similar will just always get compared to the original.
But yeah I'm excited for changes to Library, T&R interior, Flood stuff in general. Plus 4 player co op.

>>544522692
>Marty
>normal

>>544520981 (OP)
Happy Birthday, Halo 5
I have nothing else nice to say to you though.

schlorp

Halo roguelike when?
>start as a marine on a UNSC ship
>likely a top down or isometric style view (not sure FPS would work as well, maybe TPS?)
>Covenant attack and board
>engineer interference or something causes the ship AI to split into multiple different fragments
>entire ship is being decimated
>marine has to make it up to the bridge to enable self destruction of the ship
>battle your way through Covenant forces, starting off with a simple AR
>encounter different AI fragments at terminals which can upgrade your weapons in new ways or allow you to acquire new ones
>upgrades can be standard fare (ammo or reload) or can be confidential and experimental ONI tech
>shotgun pellets that ricochet, cryo AR rounds, rocket launcher with a cluster bomb effect etc
>can learn proficiencies so you can start using covenant or forerunner weapons more effectively
>eventually can complete a challenge (maybe some sort of wave based challenge?) to access an ODST pod and upgrade into an ODST
>stat boosts as well as allowing new weapons and gadgets to be used (silenced SMG etc)
>continue fighting through different decks of the ship
>each area has a different boss before the next deck
>Elite that dual wields energy swords, Brute with special grab hammer, a “gruntking” (similar to a rat king…but with grunts) etc
>deck areas could be things like Engineering, Medical, Cryo, Armory, Crew, Garage before the Bridge as the final one
>can complete an even harder challenge late game to have the AI turn you into a Spartan
>more stat boosts, gadget, and weapon unlocks
>Flood gets introduced around halfway through the run (broke containment on cryo due to the skirmish?)
>Juggernaught boss
>final boss is a flood infected Spartan

Reminder: Digsite only existed so that 343 could find and organize pre-release assets for CEmake and any future projects on the cheap.

>>544522217
>If sprint widens the appeal
>a compelling FPS
This makes sense until you remember people still expect a Halo game and you don't have the freedom of a completely new IP. Sprint (move faster stop firing) was always a bad fit for Halo and was kept out of Halo by one of its major game design leads, until the art lead now turned leader on Reach decided to greenlight it. 343 had all the feedback and design insight to see that version of Sprint got its fair shot and was not ideal in terms of reception nor gameplay.
Being able to shoot while going max speed is a Halo (FPS) fundamental. You can let players kick it up a notch, even multiple notches, but you can balance this by messing with stability and grip on the weapon, accuracy and how long spread takes to reset, recoil and have the cosmetic wobble of weapons affect the reticle, the list goes on. Now players can return to shooting while moving at max speed but you show off some skill to keep landing shots when you turn it up, rather than having to stop firing.
Player is chasing another and his buddy comes to run interference? Before Sprint you could keep moving at a very similar speed to the fleeing player while firing on the would-be savior. When Sprint is there you lower your speed drastically just to be able to shoot, while your target retains full speed and is getting away. Now if you get to keep your speed boost but aiming is harder, you can make up for that with your skill. More fitting for Halo than "shooting or speed" is "accuracy or speed".

>>544522890
Fair enough. I grew up playing it and I liked it. Shooting stuff, good storytelling, multiplayer. There are probably other FPS games I would also like, I've tried some, but not others

>>544523745
That would make a pretty sick mod, NGL.

>>544523274
I can only hope they make it just about as good as can be at least for a side-project that won't get mainline game level of resources
Then again with all the layoffs and how likely it is that they don't have their A-Team working on it I could see a great margin for error being reasonable

>>544523828
>Sprint (move faster stop firing) was always a bad fit for Halo
I disagree. I could sprint in Reach and Halo 4 and I liked it. Earlier Halo games can actually be frustrating, especially on big maps, because there's no sprint. You see a Warthog and you want to get to it but you can't sprint, and you get killed. Or you just want to move to another part of a big map, but it takes ages because you can't sprint. Due to this frustration I think I would prefer a new Halo game to have sprint. But really I think the priority should just be making a great game which revives Halo as something that many people want to play - whether that involves sprint or not.

>>544521748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtG6--4r_qk&t=877
You're essentially correct. It's just that no game will ever be universally liked to the same degree.

How do you fuckers go on? The ip has been a total fuck up in every facet since 343 fully took the reigns. Sometimes I get nostalgia of H1-3 and have to remember H4-H6, the MCC's launch DECADE, the books, and everything in between. Halo's quality jump was equal to Dragon Age Awakening straight o Veilguard and it is STILL fucking being dragged around, let alone by the same retards. What is this Pokemon/Gamefreak level of incompetence and infinite motion?

>>544524830
>How do you fuckers go on?
I take a weekend, I boot up CE, and I play all the way through to Halo 3.

>>544524397
>disagree
Eh, sure. I did call it bad, but one could settle for it simply not being ideal.
I regularly played Reach on 360 and CE on PC for many years and was able to enjoy the mechanical differences. One didn't feel too fast or too slow.
There are just better ways to design a speed-boost for Halo, that results in something more fun, more realistic and even comes with more skill expression. A boost that works in every direction would actually play into strafing (more so than 5's thrusters did), letting players turn it on and off mid-strafe to further vary their pattern.
Plus in the end this is Halo: there were always modes for rule-sets that weren't meant to be the main feature. We always could've kept the non-ability gameplay and put abilities in variant playlists, considering how modes like Infection, SWAT, Grifball and so on exist. We can literally have it all - even 5 did this late into its life and it got good feedback despite the drop-off in players by then. All the right pieces for letting Halo shine are there, it's just up to Pierre to organize them properly.

>>544523757
That would be a good thing if it was true m (not true)

>>544524830
We not in the days of having to buy the game yourself to know whether it's good enough for you
Prices of news is just your internet bill lol and there's lots of other enjoyable fiction even if you are just lookin for sci-fi

>>544525435
I suppose I should reframe that a bit. I was being specific to the Halo ip. Not like killing yourself because a video game ip sucks ass or anything silly like that. How does one continue to actively engage with an ip that has been unrecognizable for so long?

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>>544525619
For many this's a nice thing to have open on the side whether at home work or school
Personally never got sick of even CE despite playing it for hours every day for year I just saw new series to try for the first time
Do get the frustration for those who truly had their fill and want a new Halo made with the right priorities in mind though
Also caught a 1000x thanks to /biz/ so I can even fund a team one day instead of just hoping

>>544524830
I don't get tired of playing the bungie games except for maybe 2 and reach sometimes. they have a lot of replayabiltiy in my eyes, even without the skulls and mods

>>544524830
>>544525619
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it was just a matter of finding peace with the fact that Halo was a unique thing, made mostly by a specific developer, had a great 10-year run, and then ended. Not everything needs to go on forever. Most things shouldn't if we're being honest. We have several good/great games, dozens of replayable campaign missions, and hundreds of classic maps. Most of it is even conveniently all located in MCC. The replayability is great. But I don't need to obsess over something NEW. That's a dopamine starved zoomer mindset. I have MCC, and then outside of that there are other games I can play.

tl;dr
If a new Halo game comes out and it's actually good, cool.
If a new Halo game comes out and it's shit, I'll just keep playing the classics.
You should play with us sometime anon.

>>544526621
>>544526738
soulful posts
Plus with mods the replayability is essentially exponentially expanded
Now, not every mod is a winner, but checking them out if part of the experience

>>544524830
I just play the old games and I'm content with that.

>>544532129
masterpiece

>>544532129
still better than Chief v Locke

SPVJeet posters get out OUT OUT

>>544532523
drop the race shit if you want to be taken seriously

>>544532523
I take you seriously.

>>544532631
Culture war's over. You lost.

Will Lehto stand for this?

>>544533153
Marty just needs to stop
Even here, he has a point but then he can't help himself and has to make it all about jacking off to his own ego

>>544533153
>HURRRR I SHIPPED HALO GAEMS
>HURRRR I'M DA AUTHORITY ON HALO
never meet your heroes

>>544524830
Playing with /hg/ got me through the dark times.

>>544533153
Marty needs a secretary to remove the schizo from his posts

>>544532908
simultaneously looks fun but also like visual diarrhea

>>544520981 (OP)
based based based based based

CEM is already a laughing stock
Halo 5 won

>>544531594
is that a mod??

Remember when people were coping hard and screaming about how this and the whole cloak thing was NOT Halo 5?

>>544535395
yeah they even updated that logo and people still didn't believe it

>>544534785
>BAK3D B43N
I miss that nigga

>>544535670
>play a map for long enough
>it blinds you

>>544535979
Halo 5 is very majestic I agree

>>544524830
I still have MCC and I can still play what I want when I want.

Breakout ain't ever coming back, Red.

The concept art went so much harder than the final product did
It almost had this "heroes in the dark/epic universe" kind of feel to it.

>>544536252
EscharumSlammingTable.gif

>>544536252
Aesthetically, no.
But it's entirely possible to recreate its mechanics. Much lower health, MA5K/Sidekick starts, thruster start, you can even recreate the hover when you scope in midair.

>>544536752
they're testing out a mode that is almost like it I thought

>>544537025
Do you mean the Extermination mode they added yesterday? It's not quite the same because it's not one life.

>>544537159
yes that

>>544537574
That was based on a Halo 5 mode(that I think eventually got a playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvMiDd3qkY
Instead of just killing a team, you had to make sure all 4 were dead at the same time.

>>544536252
I shall deliver mine enemies from the history books

I swear Team Elimination or however it was called (Slayer but everyone has only 1 life) was a thing for a while in Halo 3.

>>544534585
>>544534785
>>544535670
>>544535970
>>544538151

>>544536314
I never thought about it this way before but the way I've settled on is that it's almost like combining Halo with the original Bladerunner in particular, amidst the much larger scale stuff like Guardians.
It's kinda odd they even bothered since the art style was very similar to 4 and they already knew from Spartan Ops how much of an effort/resource sink doing a massing new mode (Warzone in this case) would be, leaving even less room for campaign detail.

>>544539572
Unironically better than Infinite's system because you could grind for everything. Even the exchange has become a load of shit with armor that requires years of daily grinding to obtain.

>>544539826
Warzone wasn't even close to the same kind of scale. It's just some big, mostly symmetrical maps, with copy/pasted buildings, and AI that has been multiplayer-ready since Reach. The bosses are just recolors of existing enemies, and randomly spawning them throughout the match is easy.

>>544540027
The thing that makes reqs so cancerous isn't the monotozation aspect of them, it's that the entire game was designed around them. I'm not here to defend of steelman Infinite's store so if you personally hate that more, then whatever, that's fine, but the req system was still cancerous garbage that weighed the overall experience down.

>>544540308
Warzone was the thing hit hardest by them. The weapons were seldom even seen outside of that mode.

>>544539826
>>544536314
Halo 5 was supposed to be a more dystopian/dark entry in the series, and the development ended up being a headache enough that the real vision for the game never came to really be. They also had to cut roughly "a third" of it.
It's the game I'm most interested in hearing about the development of/cut content, but so much of that has alluded the public space. At this point we know more about Infinite's early builds than 5's.
Maybe that Halo 5 dev panel from HCS goes into detail, I haven't seen it yet.

ToungueGate

>>544539572
fucking L O L

>>544540613
I'll never understand the rush when it's fucking Microsoft, the second or third richest company on the planet. Like why can't they just wait instead of pushing their studios to rush shit. Retards killed one of the coolest franchises ever for no good reason

>>544540706
reminds me of wallgate

reminder

>>544541126
REEEEEEEEEEEE HALO IS FOR EVERYONE

>>544540893
MCC was a disaster and they needed a Halo game for their new console.

>>544541126
somebody BIDEN BLAST this fool already

>>544541126
I thought he was Vergil?!

/our guy/ is in his natural environment

>>544541418
it's all bad now man

>>544534785
Halo 5 won by way of being the last halo game with a proper (albeit shitty) campaign. Also flame me all you want but warzone was cool. I still think the game would find a niche audience on PC

>>544541418
>117th post
>Act Man surrounded by fags
Halo

>No, Arbiter
>The great Halo retvrn has begun
>And the NuFans, not the old guard, shall be Halo Studios escort

While I did see the previous thread, I didn't originally intend on actually making a special celebration for it. 10 Years of Halo 5 felt long overdue to me, probably because of the barrage of Halo on Playstation and death of Xbox news and aych gee happenings that went on after the Campaign Evolved Reveal. But alas, I want to give something back to y'all.
I joined this place a bit more than five years ago. It was during then that all the shitposting about BTB being broken and Bloons having more players than Shitfinite was happening, and I got heavily invested in learning about everyone here and partaking in the discussion. Not too long after I started my autistic crusade to host lobbies and cement myself in a position of leadership authority and the rest is history.
From the no mic euros to the shitposting forced posters, from the humble and modest oldfags to the cancerous femboys, I have accepted allnew guysas my equals, and maybe even my friends if I'm feeling lucky. I love the incoherent trashtalk and I cherish the few select moments of passion I see in your personalities. Even if somehow CEmake pulls it off and becomes a hit and we get flooded with snoys, I'll still remember all the ridiculous, totally not normal for imageboard standards shit I did with you all.
Take care, Halo General. Maybe one wishful Friday night we'll get to queue up for Halo again.

>>544542423
>>544542547
Thank you for reminding me that the remake does have a chance at doing something right

Why are they so afraid of remaking halo 3

>>544542423
>>544542547
Halo is alluring

schlorp

>>544542064
When nuHalo flops again I wonder if xbox will give up on halo forever or finally relent and try to make a good game for 35 year old halo fans

>>544543165
The former. And honestly, we'd be better off for it.

>>544543165
>something will change
They'll shake up the leadership, say they learned their lesson and try again

it's over

I'm fine with the new weapons in Campaign Evolved.

>>544545318
The more I see of this, and having just done a playthrough of CE, the worse it gets. EVERYTHING is off in some subtle way. Especially damage feedback.
Also
>4 nearly 5 days
>1.2M views
LMAO. Maybe we're gonna win after all.

>>544545773
Just about the only thing they got right was giving the pistol a 12-round mag. But even then, it seems they nerfed the fuck out of its reserve ammo.

Since Halo Studios has already confirmed that some of the changes they're making to the Library include more and different dialogue from 343 guilty spark, what are the odds that they'll get rid of the forerunners = humans lore once and for all?

look americans..

btw does anyone have the webm of reach being destroyed on the news and then interrupted by the fried chicken commercial?

>>544545773
the game is doa in a year when everybody is going to be surging into new multiplayer-focused titles

>>544545658
>I'm fine with the new weapons in Campaign Evolved.
Honestly the more I sleep on it, the more I am ok with it being different.
It's the stuff that's similar that bothers me the most.

Microsoft should wait for the multiplayer game to be ready and do a dual release with Campaign Evolved instead.

>>544525124
>I regularly played Reach on 360 and CE on PC for many years and was able to enjoy the mechanical differences. One didn't feel too fast or too slow.
Same, and I did like both games.
>Plus in the end this is Halo: there were always modes for rule-sets that weren't meant to be the main feature. We always could've kept the non-ability gameplay and put abilities in variant playlists, considering how modes like Infection, SWAT, Grifball and so on exist. We can literally have it all - even 5 did this late into its life and it got good feedback despite the drop-off in players by then. All the right pieces for letting Halo shine are there, it's just up to Pierre to organize them properly.
Fair, you could have modes without sprint and other armour abilities, and modes that have them. But people in /hg/ normally say that's bad because the maps need to be designed either with or without sprint in mind. I guess they could be designed without sprint in mind, but still allow sprint on these same maps in the sprint game modes. I would be okay with that.

>>544548473
And a bunch of massive name singleplayer titles. It's hopeless.

>>544551574
>But people in /hg/ normally say that's bad because the maps need to be designed either with or without sprint in mind
Reach's maps are shit. Sprint or otherwise.

>>544543249
I like that gun. Reach haters probably never even played the game

>>544547852
Oh gods this didn't dawn on me

>>544548558
>It's the stuff that's similar that bothers me the most.
I tend to agree. I just want them to get off the fence. Go full reform and make it "modern" and fulfill "their vision." Stop trying to play both sides, it failed three times. Especially if they hate classic Halo as is rumoured. Who knows? Maybe they could create a cool new idea and reach the mythical modern audience.

>>544551809
It's a more boring Brute Shot.

>>544543165
Microsoft will just allow nuAnniversary to flop and then let halo studios make OUR HALO 2 with no coop, split screen, forge, physics, or theater at launch (coming soon) [aforementioned features will be cancelled] which will flop and then they will just change the name again and remake CE again (again) again and again. It makes perfect sense it is a winning business model to do anything and everything except what Bungie did with halo 1-3 do you not understand?

what has Michael Salvatori been doing after bungie kicked him out and did he leave on his own or did they abused him like Marty?

>>544551746
>Reach's maps are shit.
I disagree
>>544551962
I think the rate of fire of the concussion rifle is quicker if I remember right

>>544551954
Or better yet, try going classic one time and seeing if there's still an audience for it. At least then we'd all know.

>>544552129
Probably retired. The high budget games industry doesn't want old talented legends. They want easily replaceable and obedient slaves who are connected to the right people after jumping through the arbitrary hoops set up by college scammers.

>>544543249
Damn I remember reach looking so good.

The Endless has arrived

>>544552158
It was ever so slightly slower, but made up for it with higher damage.

>>544552898
Parts of it are good. The aesthetic of the forerunner architecture you have to use in forge is not good.

>>544552853
I don't believe this. Especially for music.
Michael could easily set up his own music studio to work as a contractor for other game studios.

>>544553287
I hope him and Marty start something together.

>>544553584
Marty is too obsessed by politics to do anything other than running for office.
What a shame.

Fuck sprintniggers
Fuck abilityniggers
Fuck bookniggers/loreniggers
Fuck armorniggers
Fuck reachniggers
Fuck fourniggers
Fuck fiveniggers
Make your own shitty slop shooter franchise that nobody wants to play (15 years worth of data to support that statement!)
Get the fuck out of my game

Speaking of retirement what does Jaime do? I checked his blog and he hasn't been employed for 11 years. Was the Halo money really that good?

Praise sprintwinners
Praise abilitywinners
Praise bookwinners/lorewinners
Praise armorwinners
Praise reachwinners
Praise fourwinners
Praise fivewinners
Make your own shitty slop shooter franchise that nobody wants to play if you don't like Halo
Get the fuck out of my game

anyone? :( >>544548175
you can post it here >>>/wsg/6012035

>>544555260
Have it and enjoying it right now but I’m not going to share

Don't believe his lies.

>>544555424
MEAN

>>544548175
I thought I had it saved, but I can’t find it, sorry

>>544551373
saved

>>544557479
Quintessential Halo.

i struggle to understand who this remake is even supposed to appeal to

the hardcore hate it because it looks like shit and isnt halo
the casuals hate it because it's ue5 slop that'll run like ass
sony players dont care because they wanted MCC over this

who is this even for

>>544558012
Zoomers and Gen Alpha. The original looks and plays too outdated for them.

He's right

>>544558112
>plays too outdated
that'll always be the funny one to me because the whole reason halo was initially popular was due to its simplicity in terms of console shooters even today it's about as simple and barebones as you can get

>>544558367
From what I keep reading, it's too slow and boring for them. And the maps are too empty, which is a legitimate criticism in my opinion.

>10 years later and SPV3 is the greatest Halo experience
>Halo Studios is clearly inspired by SPV3

Holy kino. What went so right here?

>>544559143
Halo X in Halo Y.
It's that simple.

>>544558175
There's still a chance for season 3.

He won.

>>544559854
poor thing

>>544558012
I assume the point of the project is that they can test UE5 and test a release on PlayStation to see how it goes. If UE5 goes well then they will have learnt stuff for making the next major Halo release. And if the PlayStation release goes well then maybe they'll bring more Halo content to PlayStation.
>isnt halo
What do you need from a new game in order for you to consider it to be Halo? If they got rid of sprint would that be enough for you to consider it Halo (despite the fact that Reach, 4, 5, and Infinite all had sprint)?

When kids think of Halo CE, they imagine it looking and playing like this.

>>544558175
>>544559854
I never watched it, is it worth watching as a funny bad show like The Boys or is it actual rage fuel?

>>544559143
is that odst a hunchback

>>544560908
>>544560980
It's pretty clear they want to outsource Halo to jeets and remake the original trilogy

>>544560908
>If they got rid of sprint would that be enough for you to consider it Halo
Yes.

>Reach
Doesn't count - armor ability that wasn't a permanent ability.

>4, 5, and Infinite all had sprint.
And thusly - not Halo.

>>544561063
Its like the exact opposite of what any Halo fan would want and for that reason it is extremely funny.

Post your unpopular Halo opinions

>>544561063
If you view it as a parody it's a good laugh.

Also, Sprint in Reach is arguably one of the worst, least meta, ability in the game.
The sweats and people in the know use jetpack and armor lock for a reason.

>>544560980
There was no need to walk to those places
>>544561146
Sprint is part of Halo and has been since Reach

>>544561473
see >>544561385

4, 5, and Infinite are not Halo games - go back to eating your slop goycattle.

If you guys want to know what halo 2 lighting could have looked like, that one modded isn’t doing a good job of showcasing it. Play Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on the original Xbox.

>Last Sprint-less Halo
5,148 days ago
>Last Halo with Dual Wielding
6,600 days ago
>Last Halo that launched with Forge on release
4,741 days ago (Forge Island was not available at launch though)
>Last Halo that felt like Halo
5,156 days ago

>>544561381
Needle Rifle was the only well designed Precision weapon in the series.

>>544561931
its way too strong and easy to use

>>544561931
Appearance or gameplay wise?
Pre-TU or post-TU?

>>544561590
Reach, 4, 5, and Infinite are all Halo games. You're just coping and seething
>>544561931
Great weapon

>>544562197
>4, 5, and Infinite are all Halo games. You're just coping and seething
4 and Infinite feel like cheap knockoffs, H5 is a fun AAA multiplayer game but it doesn't feel anything like Halo lol

>>544562197
The same way watching your wife get fucked by Tyrone as long as he wears a condom isn't cuckoldry?

>>544562436
You've done him.
>>544562197
He's done you.

>>544562010
It wasn’t a starting weapon, only a mid-high tier upgrade. it didn’t disrupt vehicle play. AR starts and replace every DMR with Needle Rifle and the weapon sandbox is fixed. Make AA pickups instead of starting classes and you fixed another portion of the sandbox.

>>544562565
People will still hit Y off spawn every life.

>>544562048
All of the above. It teeters on OP post update but considering it’s a pickup in most matchmaking and it’s not a power weapon I don’t see an issue. If the DMR magically never existed like I wish was true, invasion would need a major class rework and perhaps its OPness would be a problem there specifically. As its effectiveness ever so slightly outclassing the DMR as anti infantry is a counterpoint to the DMR’s effectiveness against everything including vehicles in invasion specifically.

Halo Reach would have been better if the DMR was replaced by a BR that barely damages vehicles.

>>544563540
>Y
what the fuck

>>544563540
don't hit Y he's been through a lot lately :(

Yeeze, come back.

yeeze we love you

I didn't mean it, Yeeze. I promise to be a better man moving forward.

>>544560165
he actually did it?

>>544561089
I actually don't think so
I think CEMake is looking to be a 1 off

Revelations are being revealed.

Bros... 3i Atlas is here....

Post the best Halo mods

>>544568097
You look nice. :3

pozole

>>544564415
>>544564474
who? why?

>>544573710
shepherd

>>544573710
still would

>>544558112
zoomer here, Luckily for me my first experience with halo was my cousins Xbox and his Halo combat evolved.

>>544574848
Should have mentioned late zoomers.

>>544573853
He’s no longer with us we don’t talk about it sore subject move on stop asking not telling

>>544574919
I was born like 2002 but yeah he got an xbox 360 s with gears, cod(cant remember), gta episodes from liberty city and halo ce. Later he would get gta 5.

>>544575436
lol ok diva...

>>544573853
YeezeID, also known as Y, WeazeID, Yeezel Sneasel, Yeezel the Weasel, Billy, Jeb Bush, Drew, Kamille, Kanye West, Solid Yeeze, or Q's bitch. High ranking member of The Regulars (aka Dank & Friends, sometimes referred to as Pacha & Pals), though his role is mostly that of a court jester to the Inner Circle.
Him and his fellow Regulars joined /hg/ with the release of MCC on PC, though he was one of the very few who stayed on and frequently played Infinite after it released. He quickly rose through the ranks with his unmatched Halo skill, high class edits and memes, and infamously killed the official /hg/ wiki. He could often be seen fagbaiting the thread, posting deltarune porn, and grooming confused newfags, but he is NOT a homosexual. His last few concubines (Tavult and boypilled) started ghosting him so he's been pretty bummed out lately.
Personally, I blame Baza. Yeeze was never the same after he cancelled their wedding.

not reading all that
anyways, when's the next halofest?

>>544580491
Honestly, now that CEmake turned out to be a nothing burger, probably sooner rather than later if I had to guess.

>>544521164
The fact the female pilot crashes into the ground and only Chief survives because he is a heavily armored supersoldier should have been the first clue in their media literacy training.

>>544580491
>Halofest
we don't call them that anymore

>>544580491
December 11th
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-announced

>>544580731
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>544580491
Shit, I would settle for Fun Night with Shade.

>>544580813
MOM GET THE CAMERA

>>544580813
I swear this webm used to be of higher quality.

>>544580813
people will look you in the eye and say this game plays similarly to infinite

>>544580813
this would be a good webm if you didn't fuck it up.

>>544573853
Search /vg/ archives for “Yeeze” and tell me how many results you get. Last I checked i think it was 7,000 but not sure

>>544582578
Half of those are from faggotspammer, however.

Only good Halo is Halo 1 but Halo 1 is also pretty clunky, so why all this remake hate? It carefully improves the game with just enough series features without any of the really stupid shit from Halo 5 or Infinite.

>Only good Halo is Halo 1
True
>Halo 1 is also pretty clunky
False

>>544582927
>without any of the really stupid shit from Halo 5 or Infinite
>sprint
>hit markers
>kill markers
Third strike, you're out.

>5 days later the thread is dead again
CEmake killed us.

>>544582641
This, only one obsessed obese

>>544581010
it more or less does yeah

Notice how the original Halo CE didn't need hit markers because the enemies would visible react to you shots and blood would come out whenever they're hit.
They also had very distinct death cry sounds to audibly tell the player that its dead.

>Only good Halo is Halo 1
True
>Halo 1 is also pretty clunky
True
>but clunky is good in this case
True

>>544583641
post one of the infinite webms you have saved

Infinitefags are so insecure they throw a little tantrum and call you entitled if you ever dare criticize their game.

Lore accurate...

>>544586124
still a classic

>>544586124
whys the map so huge

How does this look like Halo 3?

>>544586210
blame bungie for stretching it out in H3.
Zanzy was perfectly fine, but 3babs are the biggest block of the base so everything has to be based on their nostalgia.

>>544586210
Bigger maps, more content.
I kid you not.

so they 100% stole halofest from the regulars right? or are the regulars actually now in control of the franchise...

>>544586323
>blame bungie for stretching it out in H3.
sure, that's why it feels twice the size lol. it's the game that came out more than a decade priors fault

>>544586323
Halo 3 Derangement Syndrome mf over here

>>544586506
>sure, that's why it feels twice the size lol.
No really, Last Resort is considerably larger and is the version every subsequent iteration is based on.
Even the map in Halo 2 Anniversary is more based off of Last Resort.

>>544586505
Halofest was already a thing old 343 did that kind of faded away and died.
Looks like they're reviving it.
It looks cringe tho.
Maybe just change ours to /hg/fest or something. The last one was almost a year ago.

>>544586124
BAZA, SHOW THEM WHY I CHOSE YOU

>Halofest
/hg/
>Halo Fest
Gaylo Studios
Any questions?

>>544586695
ok let me rephrase then:

whys the map so huge compared to last resort

>>544587295
I have no idea. I'm not even sure that it is. I'll load it up and check if you want, assuming I have it (that's not my webm but I do think I have that map).
It's definitely not a sprint thing since that does jack shit in infinite.

marty is a dirty fucking kike. that is all. fuck yahweh you ugly nigger parasite.

>>544587654
>It's definitely not a sprint thing since that does jack shit in infinite.
Amen to that.
I literally even have mine disabled.

>>544587767
Halofest is the only reason I would ever boot up Infinite.

>>544587845
trans moment

Have you guys considered that the open spaces aren't because of sprint? Halo 2 lowered individual power with the BR, pushing for more teamshotting. 343's adaption to this without reducing kill times to H1 levels was to increase open map space, because it makes teamshotting easier at a casual level. Just a thought.

>>544587845
cis white male heterochad moment

>>544587767
do customs even work in infinite

>>544588324
>do customs even work in infinite
better than in MCC

works better in halo 5

Customs work just fine in MCC. I don't know what you fags are talking about. Is that a user error moment?

>>544588324
Anon that problem was solved years ago

>>544588514
>it works on my machine
That's great and all anon but the game still regularly crashes and boots people

>>544588660
so play on xbox, pfaggot

>>544588403
We tried this and it unironically doesn't.
Maybe Halo 5 Guardians on consoles would work but the /hg/ council isn't going to waste time planning a Halofest that requires people to have a console and copy of the game AND game pass subscription in 2025.
It's going to be either Infinite or MCC.

>>544587767
Both are fine. I would be up for both.

>>544588514
>Customs work just fine in MCC
Maybe relative to at launch, but they're still a mess

>>544588660
It’s not 2014-2019 anymore, if you’re still having problems it might actually be your machine.

>>544585131
>what do you mean I have to play the game!!???
remember when you actually had to play the game to get them.

>>544588871
Works perfectly on my PC.

>>544587767
infinite is less fun to play than 4/5 of MCC's mutliplayer games

Pretending the MCC works "fine" in 2025 is just blatant lying. Even 11 years later, it' still one of the pickier games as far as networking goes
>Trying to play with people on separate continents is a recipe for disaster
>H2A is a glass ballerina in general that will constantly crash or not load certain assets like walls if you bring too large of a party in
>CE is still using modified LAN P2P tech with its networking so it actually has to load people in 1 player at a time, it tries to do this quickly but will often "miss" a player or two and they will have to rejoin
>too many explosions on screen can crash the game
>"failed to join player" is a constant problem with large lobbies, often leading to the host having to quit out and rejoin
It's a mess sir.

>>544587767
>Change my mi-
>*BOOM*

>>544590065
It's mainly the co-op campaign I have network issues on. I can't play with my Euro friends without one of us having to deal with the lag. But the multiplayer runs completely smooth and fine for all of us. Why can't they just implement the multiplayer network system for campaign? Are they stupid?

This could be worse.
Despite 343 putting out 3 shitty games and a possibly botched remake of CE very soon
Atleast they're not as bad and desperate as Bungie right now.
Marathon looks like such shit and the couple thousand playtesters didnt even stick around to play the game before it went offline

I hate tranny modders and I have myself even more for not making a backup of my Steam mods.

>>544591167
>hate tranny modders
>still play their mods and get mad when they're gone
You don't hate them enough then.

>>544591851
>still play their mods and get mad when they're gone

>>544524830
MCC is actually awesome, and custom games had basically infinite replay value to begin with but the addition of mods has made MCC even more of a living time capsule that the base games will live on through.

>>544590065
>>544590607
MCC is a bloated mess.
I'm convinced that the PS5 rumors/leaks were true and they actively were trying to get it sorted and realized it was too much of a hassle to be worth it given it wasn't going to sell for full price msrp and has no micros.
The better bet going forward would be to literally "remake" MCC with a better launcher, since that seems to be where most of the issues come from, but MS doesn't seem interested in that.

>>544587767
Halofest should alternate between MCC and shitfinite
It makes the most sense to keep it fresh imo

>>544595130
Based Ark enjoyer.

>>544596304
This graphic fails to consider that Crackdown was much more popular than shitlo, giving the illusion that anyone cared about 3.

>>544596304
meanwhile

>>544597668
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>544597668
Hardly surprising
The Reach beta was genuinely great
I know people that don't even like Reach that loved the beta for it

reach > all

Reach = fine

Me = Horny

Short for the Horned Reaper

>>544599460
I don't mind them adding more flood variety, but I do prefer the way the flood damage tables work in CE still.
Being able to headshot flood I never liked.

>>544599605
Headshotting flood just made you deal with them the same way as any other enemy.

Would you play Halo on a portable device?

In retrospect, it is weird we only got a total of one (1) map set in a similar environment to the 343 Guilty Spark swamp across all the Bungie games.
Would be a great setting for infection customs.

>>544599997
depends on the control scheme

>>544596860
Immaculate bait. So subtle that I'm the first to get hooked by hit. Nice work.

y'all fish in my net

>>544596860
I was so thrilled with that literal who game that came free with my purchase of the halo 3 beta. I remember 2 came out right before Reach launched too. Crackdown during the 360 era will be bizarrely tied to Halo. Funny to think Joe Staten worked on Crackdown 3.

>>544583076
Do people not realize sprint and most markers are optional in the remake? As is hud placement. You know what isn't optional, all of those gimmicky gameplay mechanics from Halo Reach onwards that aren't coming back in the remake.

>>544604486
>sprint is optional
Literally pointless if disabling doesn't increase base movement speed.
Absolute 'you control the buttons you press'-tier bullshit.

>>544603273
Crackdown 2 was such a disappointment. The first Crackdown has to be one of my fav Xbox 360 game.

>>544604668
That goes the other way around though; if the level design is largely 1:1, even with the promised changes to the Library and probably general back half of the game? That means the Sprint is nothing but an arbitrary addition that doesn't need to be here except for the sake of "quality of life" for non-Halo players.

Halo: Campaign Evolved.

>>544606406
Kino.

Dan is right.

>>544604668
This is like saying difficulty settings like legendary or skulls dont matter because you can just purposefully have low health on heroic and stop taking cover at all in Halo 1 and have more of a challenge than by using the options the game gives you. If the sprint is disabled by an in-game toggle it is a legitimate form of play, a challenge with its own category.

>>544604689
Yeah I liked 4 player coop and the flight suit (I really liked the flight suit) but I have to agree 2 was phoned in compared to 1 which was an AA masterpiece. Replacing 1’s multiple gangs with unique personalities and fortresses with 2’s unified terrorist cell was so boring. It was the same map but without the character of the original. Two huge negatives. Also it looked worse than the first game for some reason. I still had fun with 2 but it was just a filler game for me while I passed time until Reach came out.

They're gonna remake the MCC bullshit again and remove the old version I believe

>>544610101
The MCC is doomed anyway since we still don't have private servers.

>>544610419
AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE

>nobody mentioning the new digslop content
This Reach firefight map is kinda neat, but this vehicle is retarded overpowered and seemingly can't be destroyed.
The ODST stuff is just meh. The rooftop map is extremely short and the underground one I gave up on because it doesn't have checkpoints and you get swarmed with a fuckton of drones at one point.
I thought this stuff was supposed to be polished up more before release?

>>544611243
Well yeah it's "made" by a guy that can't even script his videos so what do you expect?

>>544611243
Okay, firefight map broke because this phantom got stuck on a drop pod and can't land. Even killing everyone inside wouldn't let the wave end.

>>544612564
I expected Microsoft to tard wrangle whatever subhumans were dumb enough to stay onboard with digsite after the implosion as to not risk another avoidable PR disaster. I guess they can't even be bothered.

>>544611243
Looking forward to this vehicle in the next Ultimate Firefight Series update.

>>544613731
Nu-digsite is just kidd using the name for recognition purposes. It's dead.

Hey guys its Generalheed here with another video that could be completely answered in a 25 second short, but I am going to ramble and trip over my words for 13 minutes instead.

>>544617043
dew et

>>544617043
stick your dick in it

>>544617043
Is this the supposed hidden Ark that the Banished used to time travel in Infinite's legendary ending?

every halo multiplayer going forward needs an all text chat. infinite is so lame without one, feels like you're playing with bots

>SCRAPE
SCRAPE
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SCRAPE
>SCRAPE
SCRAPE
>SCRAPE
SCRAPE
>SCRAPE
SCRAPE
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SCRAPE
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SCRAPE

>>544615196
How is he so bad at speaking after hundreds of videos? You would think there would be some improvements to his narration scripts and editing out any bad rambling parts of it.

So I guess MS is on board with the US government using Halo for their propaganda?

>>544629151
Shut up, we don't care

>>544629151
Nigger

>>544629151
The console war with Japan is finally over after decades of pointless bloodshed, America and Japan are at peace, both have patriotic nationalist governments with shared interests. It is time to get with the present moment and embrace ICE Spartans fighting the illegal third world flood and Trump as John Halo memes, the more AI generated the better.

>>544520981 (OP)
>the game that made spic mexicans shit their pants

>>544629273
Please care

>you can't hate the remake
>because
>because you just can't, okay?!

>>544631067
Why would I hate a better version of the best game in the series?

>>544520981 (OP)
*ahem*
REMOVE SPRINT!

>>544631482
Nice bit

>>544617043
It was only recently that it clicked for me that Jorge teleported a ship with a Pelican in it and Sabres on it, along with a large chunk of a ship that likely had other craft. I'm almost surprised 343 never touched on that.

>>544631067
>>544631709
oh the irony

>>544625412
cool shot

I miss Jega

GOOD MORNING MINTO

nice to see the thread slowing down to comfy status again
post webms

SO HERE I AM

Xbox Won

>>544642094
SOVL

>>544642094
cringe

Halo.

>>544643175
hey WAIT A MINUTE

Arc Raiders is raping Halo right now.

who?
Never heard of em.
Love me some Halo tho

'ate elites
'ate brutes
'ate the flood
luv me spartans
luv me fleet
luv earth
simple as

>>544639923
It reloads super slowly (accurate) and is really bad against bugs because of the low mag capacity. I have to slap a 30% primary reload speed passive on it just to manage. Medium penetration is nice though.

>check the account of a human supremacist
>balaho flag
Everytime

>as a Sanghelli
>San'Shyuum name
Every time

Sissy clitty

Hey, has anyone checked on Baza?
Is he doing alright?
I'm worried about him. His entire world is crashing down around him.

>>544652776
I can't wait for this shit to have a lower population than MCC.
We will all look back and laugh at how astroturfed the movement to get people to play it was.

Remember what they took from you

>>544564859
Great artist

>>544641485
I never did play those games despite how fun they looked

>>544645309
Brought back an old memory

>>544652776
He has been terminated; no need to worry about it.

>>544655192
That map looks boring. The final Damnation is way better.

>>544584325
>>544581010
>>544583641
>>544586124

It's quiet

>>544661560
this is what every game of infinite feels like to play

>>544521164
I live rent free in your head thoughie
>>544521317
>>544521508
Literally nothing wrong with that.

Greetings from Russia.

The CEmake will be PEAK....the naysayers must be silenced.

>>544673334
I've grown more cautiously optimistic as I've become more convinced the Silent Cartographer level is probably an outlier and most of the missions will probably be more of a level design departure.
I still don't like the infinite shit in it

Is this the halo thread?

no, this is Patrick

>>544673334
Hope Pierre sees this bro

CE Tana = Tomboy
2 Tana = Girl Next Door
3/CEA Tana = Milf
Reach 'Tana' = Gilf
4 Tana = Tsundere
2A Tana = Chubby
5 Tana = Yandere
Infinite Tana = Barely Legal
Paramount Tana = NTR
CE Tana = ??????

No wonder Cortana is beloved and popular. She covers a wide range of tastes for just one girl; There's something for everyone. And there's even that one Halo 2 Bunny Girl Tana mod for the furry community. Which genre/tag do you think the new CE Tana will cover?

>>544677885
This has to be the dumbest post I've seen in a long time.

Is the Master Chief Collection never gonna go on sale again because of Campaign Evolved? Wanna play at least Halo 1-3 because I've only played 3 and that was years ago.

>>544678706
MCC is going to be on sale again, don't worry.

>>544678260
It seems that Mr. ANONYMOUS of /hg/ is pleased also with neither Cortana nor The Weapon.
The art of the direction which he likes was prepared.

>>544679385
Escharum is so wholesome. I wish he was my dad.

Halo's Combat Dance.

>>544679832
Faggot shit

>>544679832
Based and Halo

>>544680376
is that woman

>>544681114
what does your penis tell you

>>544681114
Only women and black men can dance like that.

that's a fine buck

Oh my god I never checked out halo infinite but omg haha they made it like ubisoft open world capture the base slop

>shitposting is back and slow traffic
i suppose this general is already getting back to normal

You want a shitpost? I'll give you a shit post...
>*ZIIIIIIIIIIIP*
>*bends over*
>*spreads Halo Infinite REALLY wide*
>*Halo Campaign Evolved begins to coil on the floor*
Can't forget about the Sergeant Johnson missions!
>*loose nuggets plop out like a candy dispenser*
That'll be $70 + tip no multiplayer.

By the time that game is out, $80 will be the regular price.

Halo.

>>544684715
I'll just wait for a Steam sale and buy the game at its true price (90% off).

>>544679832
that phrase died before infinite launched

have a great halo day halobros

At least you can talk! Who are you?!

>>544673334
>PEAK
Highly unlikely as a side-project made during some of the hardest times ever in terms of available resources, but I can see it improving a lot considering Anniversary for 1 started with way more Reach assets used, then they were actually bold enough to show off the unfinished new armor in that initial reveal, and finally they launched with a far more custom asset. Good odds it only looks as questionable as it does right now because they wanted to show what they had for the HCS. After all, they could've waited for November 15th of this year.

>>544685452
I just got the most unexpected Deadlocked nostalgia from seeing that weapon's color scheme + the red arena.

>>544686752
mean.. i've been here supporting you all!

>>544687076
I like Rivet

>>544642094
really silly

>>544687076
Awesome fucking game. It was like mini Quake for the ps2

Post Halo modding kino

Hard Mode: No SPV3

>Halo 2 & Halo 3 are being remade, yes they will have sprint. No multiplayer, only campaign. Full remakes.
>Multiplayer is going to be Halo 7.

>>544688463
Halo.

>CE remake looks questionable but they've got a year to fix the bad shit
>leaks say that Halo 2 and 3 remakes are in development
>PEOPLE ARE FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS???

343/Halo Studios is fucking retconning their games and making remakes of the original trilogy as a new foundation for Halo, and people are fucking complaining about that and saying "NOOOO DON'T REMAKE IT MAKE NEW HALO GAME!!!"

LIKE WHAT THE FUCK??? YOU WANT MORE DOGSHIT??? "WAITER WAITER MORE 343 'OUR HALO' SLOP PLEASE" IS THAT WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT??? AT THIS POINT, WE SHOULD JUST FUCKING KILL THESE PEOPLE. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE SLAUGHTERED LIKE PIGS.

>>544688773
>>544567689
Halo 2 had the most cut content of any game in the franchise.

>wall leaning, and there was also talk of ai using flashlights to find you in the dark after you shot out lights, that lighting system was later of course redone
>There was going to be a whole level after Quarantine Zone where you're driving through the labyrinth of tunnels under the ring in a "Forerunner Tank", avoiding the Gravemind's tentacles as they flew past like freight trains.
>In the original script when miranda was in a phantom she spoke with truth. Their plan was to send chief into the pit where the gravemind was and blow him and the flood up
>Strapping a bomb to Chief's back in the chamber directly below the index chamber in the center of the Library
>Flood leader effectively disabling the Ring by living on the trigger. Definitely showing that the flood is winning the 1000 year war with the sentinels on this halo opposed to installation 04's containment.
>the flood invasion of earth being the a layer of the final "act" of the script. Something about "we wanted everyone to end up in the same place at the end". Ultimately, Chief, Arbiter, Truth, Cortana, Gravemind, and Mendicant were all supposed to come together, at the Ark on Earth, and there were a couple twists involved, but that's where it's shrouded in mystery

By far the weirdest thing about Halo 2’s development is how Bungie grossly overestimated the power of the original Xbox and how they wasted a lot of time and resources on various things they knew well in advance simply would not make it into the retail game like the e3 demo and a new engine the hardware wouldn’t be able to support. They also wanted it to be a tactical shooter early on before changing it back towards the end and it really shows in how the enemies behave and how the game is horribly unbalanced on Legendary

Halo 2 had a lot of kino in it's core despite the flaws, sometimes in part because of the flaws

It was a pure passion project

>>544688935
Make sure you make a public display of killing twitter influencers

>>544688792
vrooom vrooom... BOOM :(

>>544688773
source: trust me bro
also even if it is planned, if this game bombs they may change plans

>>544689141
it's like the opening to Tip of the Spear but it actually happens

>halo studios actively retconning the 343 games and remaking the original trilogy to introduce them to a new audience so they can make true sequels to the original bungie games instead of 343 dogshit
>but they have sprint and are made in ue5
>because of these flaws, people revolt and demand more 343 slop instead

Someone needs to fucking kill these people. Someone needs to fucking kill these people. Someone needs to fucking kill these people.

What the fuck would satisfy you? What the fuck would satisfy you? What the fuck would satisfy you?

>>544688463
Classic Halo gameplay.

>>544688935
>>544689212
>>544689574
Halo fans are never happy

You hated Halo 2's Arbiter, the cliffhanger, and removing the 3sk pistol and AR

You hated Halo 3's short campaign, changing Truth's VA, Cortana/High Charity level, removing visor reflections, AR with only 32 rounds, and multiplayer being arguably worse than Halo 2

You hated Reach's armor abilities, campaign retcons, multiplayer maps being campaign maps, no dual wielding

You hated Halo 4's art style, Forerunner retcons, Infinity Slayer, Spartan Ops, and having less content overall than Reach

You hated Halo 5's Team Osiris, the cliffhanger, Spartan Abilities, and extremely polished gameplay

why didn't the UNSC just make more nova bombs are they stupid?

>Halo 2 and 3 with sprint
Just stop making Halo entirely. It's over.

>>544690279
>"these 343 games are so bad, they should no longer be canon! No, they AREN'T canon, not to me! They should focus on the classic bungie titles instead!"
>we are going to focus on the classic bungie titles now and remake them for a new generation of zoomers and gen alpha
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO MAKE HALO 7 INSTEAD!!!!"

Genuinely, what the fuck do people actually want???

>instead of continuing your own garbage you decide to shit on the three best games in the series
>surprised that people are mad at you
?

>>544690752
a halo game without sprint, full multiplayer, forge, firefight, etc at launch.

>>544690752
>Genuinely, what the fuck do people actually want???

The consensus has been

>Halo CE gameplay sequel, 3sk pistol
>Halo 2/Halo 3 gameplay sequel
>Reach/Halo 4 gameplay sequel
>Halo 5/Infinite gameplay sequel

>>544691256
How do Halo CE and Halo2/Halo3 differ in gameplay exactly?

>>544691256
What the fuck are you talking about

>>544690926
How will you react when someone posts a picture of Favyn and his wife's decapitated heads on social media?

>>544691548
>Halo CE

CE is the most balanced and every weapon has a role

>Halo 2 / Halo 3

BR, human and covenant weapons are parallel, dual wielding, rechargeable health, most weapons are useless (spiker), weapons feel like toys compared to CE

>Reach / Halo 4

Armor abilities, loadouts, perks, DMR spam, weapon bloom

>Halo 5/Infinite

The multiplayer sand box is the most balanced halo multiplayer to date. Every weapon on map has a purpose and objective-based maps like Truth or Colosseum represent some of the most balanced map design in the series' long history

>>544692269
>Halo 2 in ODST

Kino

Whatever happened to Halo CE in ODST's engine?

>>544692474
The guy making the mod rage quit because of the Halo CEmake reveal. For whatever reason that was enough to drive him mad.

>>544692474
>>544692608
Yet another win for Masters

>Wants to backport Halo 2 concepts into CE
>Halo 3 reveals
>Wants to backport Halo 3 concepts into CE
>Reach reveals
>Wants to backport Reach concepts into CE
>Halo 4 reveals
>Wants to backport Halo 4 concepts into CE

>>544688463
Boss Battles are Halo.

>>544692971
Halo 4 had soul

>>544693367
No Halo 4 was shitty melodrama where Chief and Cortana are written out of character. While Bungie also had melodrama, like Reach, the point was doing your duty as soldiers like any war movie, not about how Chief is an autistic incel in love with an AI, not even Halo 3 did this.

>>544693367
No Halo 4 was shitty melodrama where Chief and Cortana are written out of character. While Bungie also had melodrama, like Reach, the point was doing your duty as soldiers like any war movie, not about how Chief is an autistic incel in love with an AI, not even Halo 3 did this.

>>544695482
>>544695818
Bonnie Ross and Kiki Wolfkill wanted Chief and Cortana romance to make Halo more appealing to women

Frank O'Connor wanted Didact, Prometheans, Forerunner lore, Glasslands for background for Jul'Mdama etc

Eric Nylund came up with the the aesthetic of the unsc, Insurrection, SPARTAN program, ODSTs, Spartan vs ODST rivalry, Dr Halsey, Blue Team, John-117 backstory, Keyes loop, Onyx, etc

Joe Staten came up with Captain Keyes, Cortana, Sgt Johsnon, Master Chief's one liner personality, 343 Guilty Spark, Lord Hood, Miranda Keyes, Arbiter, Prophets, Tartarus, Mendicant Bias, Gravemind, The Rookie, a lot of Halo Wars ideas, Covenant lore

Lee Wilson, Marcus Lehto and Marty O'Donnel came up with Noble Team to tell "Bungie's version" of the Fall of Reach as a swan song before moving on to Destiny

>Bungie was against the whole concept initially of the insurrectionists and just wanted humans to have these super soldiers for no sort of reason.

>The crew behind FoR felt that there needed to be some in universe reason to justify the spartans, and since there was no alien threat at that time in the story, the insurrection and human civil war was what they landed on

Also, Nylund notes that with the reprints of his books, he hasn’t been paid the royalties. 343 kiked him

don't care

>>544696475
I want to romance Cortana.

Halo 2's original script had Chief x Miranda as the intended ending

>>544698224
>semi-incest
BASED

Say something nice about Halo Wars

>>544698224
I want to romance Miranda.

>>544698701
something nice about Halo Wars

Ok well I'm only here for the Bleach memes but since there aren't any i will be leaving. Goodnight hg.

>>544700039
You can find some here, anon:
>>>/a/catalog

Modern Halo. (Halo made with AI tools)

>>544698701
It's fun to mod.

Reach may have been too gritty, but I miss the simpler times before cat ears, laser mohawks and neon shaders.

>>544690752
I don’t know what I want but I know what I don’t want, which is the bullshit they’ve been giving us for over a decade.

>"ce remake shouldn't have sprint! Game is ruined, I- what's that noise?"
>*sounds of SPRINTING from behind*
>"W-WAIT, I DIDN'T MEAN IT, NOOO- ACK!"

>>544702405
Reach was fine for what it was.
It's not like the actual military aesthetic ended up mastering anyway.
That game was carried hard by forge world and customs.

>>544691532
CE gave you more durability even if not as much as Ruby makes it out to be, but with 4 grenades per frag/plasma, no dual wields and no hijacking, the ebb and flow are pretty different. Plus CE was a lot more focused on arena to arena affairs but with big scales and some faffing about between them, largely very few setpieces; 2 and onwards will have you clear out an enemy squad, and they either get a Phantom dropship or multiple even, or you're immediately gunning it for the next setpiece, and they became much more focused, moment-to-moment games compared to CE.
People blame a lot of things on Halo for "fucking up" the shooter genre, but I'd say alongside Half-Life 2, Halo 2 refining the idea of the linear war shooter beyond the likes of Medal of Honor defined what Call of Duty would pick up afterwards. CE was always like a bunch of little sandbox areas in the first half and lots of halls and rooms made in excess for no particular reason but they had the assets to repeat.

>>544703236
I've maintained for over a decade now that if Halo 3 had launched with Sandbox as opposed to having it come out months and months later )and behind a paywall at that), a much larger portion of the base would have rejected Reach out of the gate, but because it had Forge World pressed to the disc, so many people overlooked the campaign and matchmaking issues just because it was essentially the most convenient Halo community custom game hub.

Pray for Halo Studios

>>544702405
Not following Reach's grittiness is how you end up with the kiddy cartoon looking shit in 5 and Infinite.

>>544703012
it should include it
everyone it's targeting now would only complain about how much of a turtle it is
so sorry oldfags

>>544700448
Bleach is banned on /a/ silly.

Is it wrong to play the MCC versions as my first experience playing Halo 1 and 2? I played the opening Halo CE mission then looked at the original and it's completely different.

>>544705591
Press tab

>>544705591
MCC version of CE with classic settings is fine. Best you're getting short of Xemu emulation. MCC version of 2 has tickrate issues they never fixed that requires a mod to unfuck, otherwise the AI is twice the aggression and actions in ways it wasn't balanced for. If you're talking the anniversary modes, then CEA is not advised for how asset flip ugly it is, while 2A is.. not terrible, even some good points, but also kind of has some weird choices like the new music.

>>544703012
kys

I'M SPEECHLESS

>>544656442
When it was still in shelves my parents got me Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 on ps2 for Christmas. I had zero interest in skating but I played it and it was incredible.

Ruby's Rebalance or Havok mod?
I already played both and I'm thinking of doing a second playthrough on Legendary.

>>544687305
I have yet to get to the newer games since Halo pulled me to Xbox
The money's long since been there but not so much the time but one day

>>544688008
That -is- unexpected but I guess I'll enjoy Quake even more than I expected to

This general's discords are most autistic.
Perhaps we'll have time to see them later.

>>544687305
I have yet to get to the newer games since Halo pulled me to Xbox
The money's long since been there but not so much the time but one day

>>544688008
That -is- unexpected but I guess I'll enjoy Quake even more than I expected to

>>544711480
I've yet to see the Inner Circle. What a glorious sight it must be.

>>544712269
I'm in it
it's pretty dead lol

>>544705981
Thanks. Is this what I should use when I play 2?

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3557052360

>>544690752
False dichotomy and also clueless about what people want 343 to do with Bungie Halo. 343 needs to fix MCC and keep the lights on. If they want to reboot the series then do that while letting everyone have easy access to fully functional online systems within Bungie Halo. Don’t remake Halo 1 but it’s slightly worse. Start from scratch. It’s going to be worse but at least they’ll have enough freedom to fail in their own terms. The human covenant war was more interesting. So was the flood and they only existed in a tiny window anyway. So might as well try again.

>>544691010
But the modern audience?????

>>544713409
Build it, they will come.

MCC just needs a support team

>>544696475
And Halo fans were left by the wayside

>>544713935
It needs private servers. Away from Microsoft's grasps and far, far, away from EAC. This shit needs to be playable in 40 years.

>>544713592
According to our 2013 survey data from Frank and his neighbor’s house: sprint is very popular. Fans don’t even care about what game it is there just needs to be sprint. halo Studios next project is figuring out a way to make halo synchronize with your treadmill. They have ten years and 700 billion dollars to accomplish this feature. sadly it will be cancelled after the money and time runs out and they will be quickly forced to pivot into a gacha game that they will shit out in four months time. Cortana will have visible nipples though so it will almost break even.

>>544715262
>/hg/ becoming a gacha general
What a terrible, horrifying idea. Truly the worst potential timeline.

>>544705981
>>544712512
What's left to fix in MCC? Aren't the ports 1:1 with the original releases?

>>544714949
>away from EAC.
Wouldn't that just lead to cheating galore?

>>544715524
They can fix ODST workshop mods not working.

>>544715262
>>544715430
>Halo's a sandbox game about really emergent things. A lot of things that worked great about Call of Duty - and don't get me wrong, I was addicted Black Ops all of last year - they do player rewards really well. We're not trying to do the same thing, it's as simple as that.

>We're not trying to do the same thing, it's as simple as that.

>"We had people who we hired who hated Halo because of 'X,'" says O'Connor. "But what that really meant was, 'I feel like this game could be awesome because of 'Y input' that I'm going to bring into it. I want to prove it, and I'm passionate about proving it.' So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product. That is a huge advantage, and that helped in hiring and forming our team."

>"It's during that time you're questioning yourself: 'How is this going to work, will it be as I envision it in my head?" says Holmes. For Halo 4, he says there were a few epiphany moments that helped boost the morale of the team. One of the earlier ones that Holmes recalls was when the team completed a small piece of the Halo experience that he described as a "very traditional" Halo. User research showed that people thought it was a lot of fun, and it showed that the team was capable of making a Halo game that was true to what the series was about.

>343 scrapped it, Holmes says, as it was too traditional. But that first build showed the new team that this amalgamation of different studio cultures could work together and achieve a common goal.

Bravo Frankie

>>544715718
I remember when the shitheads at 343i kept telling us that those were most definitely not perks.

>>544715718
Remember when Max fixed Halo 4?

>>544716153
Shame about the art style but yeah this 2A multiplayer was probably the best gameplay since halo 3.

>>544716340
Considering Max designed H2, H3, and H2A..

Why didn't they hire him for H5 and Infinite?

>>544716540
Why do we need the same fucking guy every single time? Can't people just learn from classic Halo's gameplay and apply what works and fix what doesn't?

>>544716153
They should have added descope to the turbo update.

>>544716153
Based Max Hoberman takes

Rat Race
>"Rat Race was an overly simplistic map in my mind but I have some incredibly fond memories of it at the same time. You know, I think that one is sort of ripe for reimagining and ripe for a new version of it someday because it had its strong points. It had some really memorable moments with the long ramps and the corners and that interior. So yeah, it’s got potential." -Max Hoberman

Damnation
>"Damnation, sorry I had to, whenever I hear the word damnation I can’t get Dave Dunn, who is one of our environment leads over there, out of my head, because I think he made that map for Halo 1. He’d always come by my desk saying, 'Damnation!' So as soon as I hear it, it goes through my head. Damnation, we remade that one at Certain Affinity, so I kind of got a lot closer to it. I kind of had the same reaction back in the day which was fun map, a lot of interesting stuff going on but I just, just too confusing in places. Too easy to get turned around and too hard to navigate. You’ll notice a theme here." -Max Hoberman

Gemini
>"Gemini was another popular Marathon map that we decided to port. What was the name? I don't remember the name of it, but no, it didn’t work at all. It was terrible. It did not work." -Max Hoberman

Tombstone
>"I think we did as good a job as anybody could have done on Tombstone to make it look better and stay true to the original. Without the pistol on there it’s just not the same." -Max Hoberman

Boarding Action
>"A map that I love to hate. It's confusing. That was one of Peter Marx’s maps, which, he was working for me at the time. He made Hang ‘Em High which was fantastic. I think he’s the one who made Boarding Action, but not so successful. Very confusing." -Max Hoberman

>>544717120
Derelict
"Derelict was...you know, I wanted to remake Derelict, which we did as Desolation. It was kind of interesting because I wasn’t the biggest fan of Derelict from Halo 1. When we remade it as Desolation and we changed out the way it worked and we added the super bouncy jump pads that get you up, and we added the back corridors with the shotgun, I actually came to love that map in sort of its remade form. It kind of suited my style really nicely. Original one, eh. Remake, awesome." -Max Hoberman

Backwash
>"Beautiful map. It had two problems. One was performance. The other was that it broke this rule that multiplayer maps should have really good visibility. You should be able to have easy target acquisition. The environment shouldn’t get in the way of navigating and calling out targets. That was kind of a mantra on Halo 2 multiplayer maps. That map flaunted the rules. Is that the word? Flouted, flaunted? Whatever the word is. Another map that made me a little bit grumpy." -Max Hoberman

Gephyrophobia
>"Gephyrophobia, fear of bridges. Yeah, another map, if I recall, with super verticality. A lot of people fall into this trap, which is people think bigger is better. I mean, hell, it happened even on the warfare stuff we were talking about for Halo 2 in some ways. Its just not always the case. In a lot of those maps they had this mandate, and I don’t remember where it came from, but we had to do bigger because bigger is better." -Max Hoberman

Chill Out
>"Chill Out was a lot of fun, but I also found it confusing and hard to navigate. I’ve never been the best at that sort of navigation. I think it's good in the sense it always makes me push the [development] team really hard for really good pathing and landmarks and directionality. Chill Out was one of several maps I always got confused on. I wasn’t as crazy over it for that reason. I know internally at Bungie, people really, really liked it a lot." -Max Hoberman

>>544716540
There is no good answer to this. They used him constantly but always kept him at arms length so 343’s own vision prevailed.

>>544717336
Foundation
>"Yeah, it was a Marathon map. It wasn’t one of my personal favorites, but it was one that was really popular and a lot of the old-school Bungie guys really liked it. The main reason I did it, I told you I was a big fan of Wizard, a four-way symmetric map, was that I wanted another four-way symmetric map. I wanted a little bit larger four-way symmetric map. We did it but it was kind of a skunkworks project. We just kind of did it in our spare time." -Max Hoberman

Desolation
>"Desolation is fun. That map never got its fair share. Right after it came out, along came Halo 3. When we were playing that, when we were working on it at Certain Affinity in the early days, it was so much fun on that map. Mostly due to the bouncy jump pads that so you could just fly around like Superman. It was very cool. It was a jetpack before there was a jetpack in a certain manner of speaking." -Max Hoberman

Relic
>"Relic was another map that was designed for one-flag CTF right from the get go. I never really liked the complete 180, the U-turn that you had to do -- go all the way down to the end and come back. At least you didn't get lost. Everything’s open and you can see. It had its moments. There’s some fun vehicle combat on the beach. Overall, I always felt that Relic was a one-trick pony and when we were thinking about doing it for Halo 2 Anniversary and remaking it, I just killed it because I didn’t feel it was versatile enough. I wasn’t a fan of the big U-turn." -Max Hoberman

>>544717443
Terminal
"Another big, really ambitious one-flag CTF map. I really liked Terminal. I have incredibly fond memories. The train was awesome. Just that chaotic insanity factor that comes barreling through and kind of ruins the best laid plans. I really loved that dynamic element. I remember just the defense of the base, attacking the base and defending the base being such a battle that raged and raged and raged and was so hard fought. When you finally got that flag out of there it was so rewarding. I think that’s a map that I would have really liked to have remade. It wasn’t in the cards this time around, partially for technical reasons, by the way. I would really have liked to have remade it. The way the spawning worked on it in the safe room was fundamentally flawed and we would have to rethink that. Awesome map with a ton of potential." -Max Hoberman

Wizard
>"Love it. Shotty CTF. Awesome, perfect, mayhem." -Max Hoberman

Timberland
>"I remember when it was in development, that was kind of the stand out at Bungie whenever we’d get a build from Gearbox and we’d play it. That was the one stand out. I liked Timberland so much that I picked to remake it. Originally we were thinking about remaking it for the Blastacular Map Pack. We even had a version of it built. That didn’t come to pass. Years later we remade it, I’m losing track." -Max Hoberman

I've noticed how little weapons are there on Halo Reach's maps.
Compared to Halo 2 and 3, and to a lesser extent CE, the maps are pretty bare if you're looking for a weapon pick up. Seems like that design carried over to Halo 4, 5 and Infinite. You're meant to run out of ammo and die in post 3 Halo.

>>544717552
Turf
>"Turf, Turf, Turf. The instructions that I gave the team, even on the Halo 2 DLC, even though I wasn’t as much of a hardass on the quality control, I still gave everyone a map. Each team was going to have these maps, this scale, focused on these game modes. We broke up into smaller teams. Each team picked one to run with.

>Turf was always meant to be, first and foremost, a small vehicle map. I always get grumpy when I think of Turf. I think what was really made was a map that was a shrine -- we’ll use the word 'shrine' again -- in honor of the shotgun with the vehicles shoved in on the side to check the box. I never really felt like vehicles were properly integrated. I felt like shotgun was overbalanced on the map. In certain playstyles it can be really enjoyable. I certainly had some fun moments on it. I think again, it needed to embrace vehicles better and integrate them more fully." -Max Hoberman

Sanctuary
>"Sanctuary was great. Sanctuary was definitely one of my favorites of all the DLC maps that we did. Classic fairly small-scale symmetric two-sided map. It worked in a lot of ways. Actually in our new version, the few issues that I had with it, we attacked in this new version -- the way you get trapped in the shotgun tunnel and a few things to improve movement. I think it was a really good map before. It’s gorgeous too.

Warlock
>"In the DLC, Warlock was the one map I personally was really pushing. I didn’t feel like any of our maps really gave that experience, that four-way symmetric, that really, really tight symmetric map, arena experience. I wanted Warlock and we pushed it through and I was really happy with how it turned out. It was fun. It’s still fun." -Max Hoberman

>>544717957
Prisoner
>"Prisoner, again we remade it at Certain Affinity, and I have a new found respect for it as a result. I remember back in the day I was not a huge fan of it because I found the excessive verticality to be kind of chaotic. When we remade it and once I had a chance to step back and really understand the layout, then I became much more appreciative of the map. I think that’s kind of key for me. I really have to understand the layout really well to enjoy a map and some maps lend themselves to that better than others." -Max Hoberman

Headlong
>"Headlong was one of the very last maps we made. Warfare got cut. We didn’t have this. We needed more large Big Team Battle maps than we had originally planned for because we thought there was going to be this whole other game. This was also post-Zanzibar where we now had the ability to do these dynamic elements. Headlong was an attempt to design a map with these dynamic elements from the get go. Which mostly ended up being the big beam in the middle, the one you could walk on and it would move and all that -- kind of gimmicky.

>It was kind of fun too. I do have a lot of fond memories around the base structure and a lot of fun vehicle combat. I think the starting structure, the way that you spawn and you all break up and go in different directions, that broke another one of my fundamental rules that the team should start moving in a line and then branch off. There were some things, sort of best practices that weren’t followed that would have made it a stronger map, especially on the attacker side start. If I could do the map over, I would cut that side of the map and redo it and keep the base side of the map more or less intact." -Max Hoberman

>>544717891
None of the post-3 games really had weapons that you could just toss around haphazardly. Especially since Bungie was so autistic about keeping the plasma rifle and spiker as pve-only guns.

Campaign gameplay (foot combat): CE > ODST > 3 > Infinite > Reach > 2 > 4 > 5
Campaign gameplay (vehicular): 3 > Reach > ODST > 2 > 4 > 5 > CE > Infinite
Campaign writing: 2 > CE > 4 > 3 > Reach > ODST > Infinite > 5
Campaign atmosphere/environmental storytelling: CE > Reach > ODST > 3 > 2 > Infinite > 4 > 5
Competitive doubles (LAN): CE > 2 > 5 > 3 > Reach > Infinite > 4
Competitive 4s (LAN): 2 > 5 > 3 > Infinite > Reach > CE > 4
Competitive doubles (online): 5 > 2 > Infinite > Reach > 3 > CE > 4
Competitive 4s (online): 2 > 5 > Infinite > 3 > Reach > CE > 4
Social: 3 > 2 > 5 > Reach > CE > 4 > Infinite
BTB: 2 > 3 > CE > Reach > 4 > Infinite > 5
Overall: CE > 3 > 2 > ODST > Reach > Infinite > 5 > 4
Notes
>if ODST had multiplayer gameplay at the same level of its campaign it would easily be the second best Halo game
>Halo 2's campaign has aged the worst of Bungie's games
>Halo 5's campaign is garbage through and through
>Halo 3 is so much worse online than on LAN and MCC Halo 3 plays nothing like the OG
>Halo 4's story is decent, it just looks and sounds like it isn't Halo. If they kept the Forerunners masked the story would instantly have been received infinitely better
>Mass Effect 2 was the best base game in the trilogy, but with the DLC ME3 becomes better and with the Legendary Edition's gameplay fixes ME1 becomes better than both ME2 and ME3
>You are a moron if you think Infinite's foot-combat isn't good, even if its vehicles and set piece sequences are trash

>>544718214
Colossus
>"Colossus was ruined by that damn super bounce bug because it would affect the flag. It was always meant to be a two-flag CTF map primarily. That was its first and foremost reason for existing. The way you could toss the flag and bounce it up just killed it for the gameplay. When I think of Colossus I get a little teary-eyed." -Max Hoberman

Elongation
>"It was fun that we got the dynamic crates. How do you get a really dynamic interactive element on a tiny, tiny little map? That was probably the best example of it. I thought it was tons of fun." -Max Hoberman

Burial Mounds
>"We talked about Burial Mounds a little bit, but, so much potential. You know Burial Mounds was actually based on a Halo 2 level that got cut from the campaign? There was going to be a level on the moon. It was part of the plan -- where the ring explodes and all the fragments are on the moon. I forget the name of the moon. That was all planned in the campaign. Originally we were trying to set all our levels on spaces that fit the campaign. And then they cut that level and changed that. We didn’t have anything to base that on. We were like, 'All right we’re just going to make it on the moon. And here’s big giant pieces of the ring. Go.' It was a unique setting and a cool environment." -Max Hoberman